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[06:24] tha'ts a bit ridiculous, isn't it? shouldn't postrm of nvidia-glx-new delete that file? [06:24] otherwise after install n-g-n and trying to revert to any other n-g will fail === d33p__ [n=d33p@87.217.144.147] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-1182ea00ddd4763e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | main frozen for Gutsy Beta release === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by pitti at Thu Sep 20 11:22:07 2007 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holycow [n=start@S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] Good morning === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:11] hey pitti [07:11] how's it going? [07:11] Would it make sense to request a freeze exception for Theora at this stage? [07:12] hi ajmitch! pretty well [07:12] hasn't that been answered a day or two ago? [07:12] as a no, ABI/API breakage, ffmpeg stack affected, too risky? [07:12] I only said that there is no chance if it does break abi/api [07:12] but at this point I don't think that it is a good idea for beta at least [07:13] LucidFox: what does the new theora provide? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:20] jdong> a new decoder implementing the complete specification [07:21] given how the Debian package name is still libtheora0, it probably doesn't break ABI - but it could have been Debian's oversight === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.252.149] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iceman__ [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joe_ [n=joe@cpe-75-84-49-174.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:36] pitti: hey, there are two X driver updates that the X-SWAT would love to see in beta; === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:37] nv 2.1.5: hasn't changed that much, but LVDS fix for G80 chips on some laptops, also adds support for a number of new chips (only added the pciid's so the driver would load) [07:38] tepsipakki: that sounds reasonable (I'd like to see a diff, though) [07:38] tepsipakki: can you please file FF exception bugs, attach diffs, and I'll review them there? [07:38] ati 6.7.194: upstream says that 6.8 is close. This fixes, for instance, a crasher when you use Xv and change the desktop in compiz [07:38] pitti: sure, this was just a heads up notice :) [07:38] oh, yay for more crash fixes :) [07:39] also, it fixes more blank screen issues === LuisBG [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:39] tepsipakki: heads-up appreciated (for CD building planning, etc.) [07:40] pitti: thanks, I'll do those when I get to work [07:40] Morning pitti! [07:40] pitti: There's a new gnome-build, do you want to rescue it from NEW? === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:42] StevenK: will do a bit later, when I'm back at my desktop (can't get to the DC from here) [07:44] oh interesting bug === maikmerten [n=chatzill@ls5appsrv05.cs.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:48] pitti: Sounds fine. I'm just looking at the one and only rebuild for it. [07:49] pitti: wanna have some fun? bug #144363 [07:49] Launchpad bug 144363 in sysvinit "/lib/init/mount-functions.sh: domount does not check if a mountpoint is already in use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144363 [07:50] Hrm. lamont touched sysvinit last. :-P [07:50] StevenK: no change upload.. and this is a very old bug [07:50] i just found enough motivation to look at it today [07:51] need to understand why NFS mounts are not mounted at boot anylonger [07:51] StevenK: yeah - I just touched it lightly. :-) [07:51] pitti: I just filed the sync request for expect [07:52] (thought I did that earlier... maybe I did.... ) === lamont should sleep soon === ScottK knows the feeling. [07:53] fabbione: eek, so many mounts on top of each other? strange, why does that happen only to you? [07:53] pitti: i wonder if this is because this machine is a sid install upgraded to warty/hoary/breezy/dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy? [07:54] pitti: it might also be because i have stuff installed that i am sure you don't [07:54] fabbione: either sounds reasonable [07:54] grep domount * -l [07:54] mountdevsubfs.sh [07:54] mountkernfs.sh [07:54] fabbione: I reinstall my machines twenty times with every release === lamont has found that gutsy stock install differs from breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty->gutsy [07:55] lamont: way different. yes i noticed too [07:55] pitti: long range upgrade testing is a _GOOD_ thing... we should do more of it.. [07:55] then we'd find things like interactions between the current stuff and evms, for example... [07:55] which was stock on dapper? and not stock on gutsy [07:55] anyway, time for this one to sleep. === ScottK recently did a Dapper --> Gutsy direct upgrade. That was "Fun". [07:56] pitti: i checked and indeed domount is invoked a bunch of times [07:56] pitti: could you show me your fstab? [07:56] pitti: that looks like the only tihng that might be deeply different [07:58] lamont: I agree [07:58] fabbione: there's nothing particularly worth mentioning about it, except that my 'post-ubuntu-install' setup script overwrites the uuid ones with my ancient /dev/xxx names [07:59] pitti: do you have /var/run and /var/lock entries in there? [07:59] because mine doesn't === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:06] fabbione: but I do have uuids on my desktop, and it doesn't happen there either [08:06] fabbione: nope, and it's not supposed to [08:08] pitti: a grep for domount in /etc/init.d.. how many scripts have it and how many are really triggered? for instance I have nfs mounts and mountkernfs.sh is executed [08:08] pitti: so perhaps it's conditional [08:08] fabbione: mountdevsubfs.sh and mountkernfs.sh [08:09] same here [08:09] fabbione: 3 hits in devsub, and 5 in kernfs [08:09] yeps === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti is now known as pitti_laptop === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === d33p__ [n=d33p@30.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:26] StevenK: gnome-build NEWed === kagou [n=Patrice@78.113.222.216] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:31] pitti: Thanks! === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:37] good morning funky bunch === dmccal2 [n=dmccall@d154-20-35-141.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === carlos_ [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:51] infinity: meh, the previous mbr package built fine in the DC, and I cannot reproduce the current test suite failure locally either; give-back didn't help, hmm === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F74067.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] good morning [09:07] hey dholbach [09:07] hey pitti === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-68-188.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] pitti: anjuta uploaded - 3 libgdf packages should be ready to NBS out soonish [09:11] StevenK: cool! [09:14] StevenK: accepted === pitti tries a test install with encrypted lvm by default; curious if that works :) [09:16] aah, fresh Ubuntu lives [09:16] We have partman-crypto by default now? === pitti calls for a testing sprint [09:16] Fujitsu: in alternates [09:16] Yay! === RAOF dances around the room, shouting Wooo! [09:17] Is Ubiquity getting LVM/crypto and the like in the next couple of releases? [09:17] I hope so [09:17] pitti: Ah, thanks === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.appl.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:17] Still, it'll be nice to not have to set it up manually, even if you do still have to use the alternate. [09:18] pitti: I'd forgotten the archive is in lockdown mode. :-) === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:18] Fujitsu: in expert mode this has worked for quite a while already === torkel [i=torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] pitti: I'll be blowing away my laptop's install to set up LVM/crypto sometime soon, obviously. Would you prefer testing asap, or with a beta disc? :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:21] https://iso.qa.stgraber.org updated; go wild [09:21] RAOF: testing ASAP is appreciated, if you can afford it [09:21] pitti: Wasn't it only promoted a few days ago? === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:pitti] : Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | main frozen for Gutsy Beta release | Please test the Beta candidates at https://iso.qa.stgraber.org [09:21] Fujitsu: yes [09:21] Fujitsu: well, not promoted, but enabled in d-i [09:25] Hm. I guess I can do that tomorrow sometime. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh_ [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:30] (xiph.org news: Theora beta1 is out - and no, I don't expect that to go into 7.10 ;) ) [09:30] pitti, slangasek, I don't see anything on the schedule for Gutsy, so I am wondering if there will be a hard freeze for universe? If so, when might that be? === bryce_ [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A640B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:31] hi maikmerten, thanks for the heads-up [09:31] hello mvo [09:31] pitti: I uploaded a new knetwork-manager yesterday including a fix for dbus connection [09:31] mvo: can you start a new round of upgrade testing? [09:31] pitti: you're welcome [09:31] hello [09:31] pitti: yes [09:31] Tonio_: I saw, but it didn't have any bug # in the changelog, so I didn't accept it yet [09:31] mvo: thank you === mvo rsyncs images [09:32] pitti: because there is no bug reported for this, and I decided to fix it before reporting and closing myself, lack of time, sorry for this.... [09:32] pitti: should I report the bug, then close it and reupload ? [09:32] Tonio_: if you give me a rationale here, it's good enough for me [09:33] pitti: okay, so the packaging was changed by riddell recently, and the dbus system.d configuration file misses in the package [09:33] Tonio_: the changelog does not document the code removal in Makefile.in [09:33] pitti: therefore the software is unable to connect to dbus... [09:33] Tonio_: agreed to the .install fix, that's fine [09:34] pitti: I just rebuild the makefiles using buildprep, there is no specific change in the makefiles [09:34] pitti: thanks [09:34] Tonio_: hmkay; you tested this properly, I take it? === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] maikmerten: it'd be nice to have Theora's beta 1 in gutsy-backports, maybe even feisty-backports, though as soon as possible, even though gutsy main exception is probably not so probable :) === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:42] oh, gutsy backports would certainly be nice [09:42] and absolutely appropriate, too === maikmerten is glad we preserved ABI compatability albeit like 50% of the code was rewritten [09:43] pitti: did partman-auto-crypto work for you? pkern reported problems at boot [09:44] maikmerten: that's indeed great; it's very helpful for distros (avoid rebuilding the dozens of reverse dependencies) and backportability, etc. [09:44] cjwatson: it's still at the 'erasing data on partition' stage, that takes ages... [09:44] ah, done now [09:44] pitti: the original plan was to ship beta with a new API, but looking back at like 3 years of productive Theora use it seemed to be unappropriate to suddenly break everything === LuisBG [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-121-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:49] pitti: yep I tested widelly on a daily-build install, and I can confirm knetworkmanager won't work at all without the fixing upload, then it works like a charm :) [09:49] hi doko [09:49] Tonio_: ok, sounds beta-worthy === ant30 [n=aperezar@38.Red-80-36-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:52] good morning === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] ing [09:55] pitti: great, thanks :) === dexem [n=dani@220.Red-83-52-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] mvo, I am strongly considering having "normal effects" and "extra effects" being a fixed set of pluings and only allow a custom list of effects... well on the "custom effects" setting (when ccsm is installed) === Zdra [n=zdra@91.176.128.213] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] mvo, I am surprised that this isn't in place already [09:59] MacSlow: this is done with the patch I send you === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=Cesare@host181-227-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AnAnt [n=anant@196.205.22.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] Hello, I have opened a couple of bugs on LP that got solved (or turned out not to be bugs), how do I get them closed ? [10:22] AnAnt: change the status to invalid or fix released [10:22] seb128: how ? === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F74831.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:23] AnAnt: click on the dropdown box and pick the option you want [10:23] seb128: oh ok, thanks === AnAnt [n=anant@196.205.22.58] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:23] AnAnt: in the table at the top of the bug, you can click on the expander displayed to have the bug settings [10:24] hm, when I unplug the power cable from my laptop, trackerd does *not* stop grinding [10:24] I thought that was be fixed? [10:24] pitti: to svn, no new version has been rolled since [10:31] calc: bug 135086? [10:31] Launchpad bug 135086 in unzip "zipgrep: exit code always 0" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135086 [10:31] Riddell: bug 136425? [10:31] Launchpad bug 136425 in qt4-x11 "qtconfig-qt4 in Accessories?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136425 === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@91.64.103.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jonibo [n=jonas@193.12.106.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:38] Riddell: also bug 121984 [10:38] Launchpad bug 121984 in kdepim "kandy: no icon in kubuntu feisty's kde menu" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121984 [10:40] doko: bug 103929? [10:40] Launchpad bug 103929 in bash "Bash prompt string looks for xterm-color, gnome terminal identifies as xterm" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103929 [10:40] Tonio_: do you think you can take a look at bug 73859? [10:40] Launchpad bug 73859 in kleansweep "Installation of Kleansweep on Ubuntu (Gnome) fails to install kdesu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73859 === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:41] dholbach: for beta? maybe not [10:41] doko: I'll mark it as 'later' and unsubscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:42] dholbach: will look today, indeed [10:42] dholbach: should use kdesudo btw [10:42] it'd be nice if you could all check out and http://daniel.holba.ch/sponsoring [10:42] Tonio_: best to mention that in the bug report [10:43] Tonio_: gracias :) [10:43] pitti: ola :) .... network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu14 waits === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:43] so does gnome-user-docs and ubuntu-dev-tools :) === asac wonders if we will make the ubuntu100 during this release ;) [10:44] asac: hey [10:44] asac: how did the wpasupplicant testing go? [10:44] pitti: not as much replies as hoped for ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556488 [10:44] dholbach: will test \sh_away debdiff, should work [10:45] pitti: if you don't want this on beta cds i am fine ... we have to do it after beta then === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:45] Tonio_: rock on :) === mbiebl [n=michael@p4FD2EAC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] cjwatson: my lvm/crypto install finished, and indeed it's just stuck at boot; I'll reboot without usplash and quiet === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:49] cjwatson: hm, that's inconclusive; kernel boots fine, but there's no userspace kicking in, it's just stuck [10:49] pitti: ok, I'd be interested to know if it can be made to boot for beta === kagou [n=Patrice@78.113.222.216] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/tmp/lvmcrypto.png FYI; no VTs yet, etc. [10:51] ah, I finally get an initramfs shell === ogra1 [n=ogra@p548AEEF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:52] cjwatson: /dev/mapper/ only has control, and 'lvm -> vgdisplay' says 'no VGs found' [10:53] pitti: It's LVM on top a crypted block device, right? === glledo [n=gellevi@208.72.153.130] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] soren: no, it shouldn't be; it should be an encrypted LV (root) and an unencrpyted LV (/boot) in a VG [10:54] soren: and an encrypted swap, of course [10:54] but the installer didn't show me the final partitioning, so I'll need a rescue CD, etc. [10:55] pitti: Oh, I see. [10:56] pitti: /usr is on / ? === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.61.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] sladen: I guess so === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:56] the 'lvm' tool does not work at all, so I'm not sure [10:56] vgscan/pvscan doesn't detect anything, etc. === LuisBG [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] sladen: AFAIK partman-auto-crypto uses the atomic scheme by default, which doesn't have a separate /usr [10:58] pitti: it does have a separate /boot, though, right? [10:58] so, for some reason the lvm is not detected at boot [10:58] cjwatson: it needs to, right [10:58] I assume so otherwise you wouldn't have got that far :) [10:59] cjwatson: I'm still poking in the initramfs shell, but it doesn't seem to get me very far [10:59] cjwatson: classical /boot, swap, root-for-everything schema would make most sense [11:00] indeed === liw [n=liw@a91-154-119-10.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] dm-crypt module wasn't loaded; that's a bug, but not the primary one [11:03] pitti: glom rebuild uploaded === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:06] dholbach: *hug* === Nicke [n=niclasa@wpa-n2-197.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:13] soren, cjwatson: ah, got it: in this mode, /boot is not on the lvm itself, but a normal separate partition; and indeed my sda5 is a LVM on top of a luks device === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] hm, ubiquity hangs at downloading langpacks, and 'skip' does not work [11:18] pitti: That makes sense. === Kabyl [n=XSource@41.201.212.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44_ is now known as mc44 === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] cjwatson: I created bug 144390 with the symptoms and what to do to make it boot [11:31] Launchpad bug 144390 in debian-installer "use entire disk with lvm/encrypted partitioning fails to boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144390 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:34] <\sh> hmm...somehow I won't get my dual screen setup back to work...after last updates...:( [11:34] \sh: ati? [11:35] <\sh> neither mergedFB nor xinerama is working (ati radeon RV100) [11:35] <\sh> tepsipakki, yepp [11:35] they are obsoleted, use xrandr [11:35] it'll be mentioned on the release notes [11:36] <\sh> tepsipakki, but you don't mean that I have to setup tghis dual screen via this strange UI on gnome? [11:36] it should work OOTB for most [11:36] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mmueller/new-desktop-effects-capplet-5.png but please comment on the ubuntu-devel ml [11:36] <\sh> tepsipakki, not for this machine... [11:37] <\sh> tepsipakki, it comes up with the failsafe 640x480 vesa mode :( [11:37] \sh: generate a new config === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.static.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] <\sh> tepsipakki, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? [11:37] right [11:37] make a backup first if you like [11:37] of the file.. [11:38] <\sh> tepsipakki, oh I have a backup since dapper of my xorg.conf ,-) [11:38] you could also try without [11:38] and see what happens [11:38] <\sh> tepsipakki, doesn't work...I have two tfts one analog and one digital... [11:38] <\sh> tepsipakki, it comes up with the right solution but in twinview mode [11:39] cloned? [11:39] <\sh> so screen analog and screen digital are showing the same [11:39] right [11:39] <\sh> tepsipakki, and using the screen and graphics ui....he sees the screens and I set the screen digital to "left of bla" and then failsafe mode after restart ,) [11:41] \sh: maybe that should be made to work with ranrd-1.2... === adamh [n=adam@196.41.59.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] \sh: anyway, check this out: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html [11:42] siretart: you use crypted lvm, right? any idea about bug 144390? how does your initramfs behave? [11:42] Launchpad bug 144390 in cryptsetup "use entire disk with lvm/encrypted partitioning fails to boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144390 [11:43] \sh: I haven't tried the randr-1.2 based multihead at all, but that doc should cover it, both static and dynamic === LuisBG [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === totopalma [n=Salvator@host72-95-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:57] cjwatson: on the bright side, hibernate and wakeup does work properly (except for manually calling cryptsetup again, of course) [11:58] pitti: I'm not quite following the bug - what changes need to be made to debian-installer here? [11:58] cjwatson: I moved it to cryptsetup; I guess something in its initramfs-tools scripts doesn't work (I did not yet debug it) === pitti currently pokes the unionfs http oops in live, which causes the installer to hang (and any other program wanting to do http) === Lamego [i=Future@nat/ibm/x-8519ad42f2764905] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D832F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:03] pitti: what has HTTP got to do with any filesystem? [12:03] mvo: sorry to preempt you with that apt bug, but I thought it was a good idea to get it fixed sooner rather than later at this point [12:04] cjwatson: what apt bug is that? [12:04] cjwatson: if I'd only knew that... === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] cjwatson: I attached everything to bug 144395 [12:05] Launchpad bug 144395 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "unionfs oopses for http processes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144395 [12:05] mvo: bug 144001 [12:05] Launchpad bug 144001 in apt "crashes with SystemError: E:Unable to write mmap - msync" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144001 === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] urgh [12:05] cjwatson: thanks for fixing that (144001) [12:05] pitti: so you mean apt's http method, at a guess [12:06] cjwatson: thanks for fixing it! === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:06] cjwatson: ah, right, that spawns a process with that name === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] pitti: uuh, this looks bad. from the first look, it seems that the udev rules in the cryptsetup-udeb are broken [12:16] siretart: why the udev? [12:16] siretart: erm, udeb [12:17] oh, I missed the part that installation went fine [12:17] I have to admit that I never installed with crypted / - I need to test that [12:17] dholbach: Got my mail (ekiga) ? [12:17] will do soonisch [12:18] stgraber: yes, I'll forward it to fernando though (he's working on the update to the new usptream version) (maybe also to seb128 to let him know about it) [12:18] siretart: oh, I see; you just use encrypted /home and swap, or so? [12:18] siretart: ok, nevermind; I just thought you would use that setup === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:19] siretart: broken> how so? [12:19] dholbach: Debian did update, maybe we can sync? [12:20] cjwatson: I didn't read the bug carefully enough. the bug seems valid, I need to look more closely into it [12:20] seb128: great - I'll ask fernando to check it out (we have some changes in ekiga, for example different icons and LPI) [12:20] seb128: also I guess Debian has different compatibility symlinks [12:20] let me install a current gutsy via pxe and let me try [12:20] seb128: maybe siti can help with that also [12:23] Riddell: hm, did you self-accept your kdebase feisty-proposed upload, or is there a soyuz glitch? [12:26] pitti: according to mvo #127849 the verification has been already done about a month ago. we can move that to -updates [12:26] fabbione: cool === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A65FC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] pitti: #133822 feisty is ok. I am testing edgy and dapper now [12:27] pitti: I did, is that problematic? [12:27] stgraber: I forward it and CCed you in the mail [12:27] Riddell: no, that's fine; I was just concerned that it wasn't held in unapproved for some reason [12:28] Riddell: did you mangle the bug accordingly? (fixcommitted/verification-needed) [12:28] fabbione: hm, over a month ago that bug/upload didn't even exist :) [12:29] pitti: the comment from mvo is from the 27th of Oct.... [12:29] almost a month ago [12:29] :) [12:29] it's exactly a month old : [12:29] :P [12:30] (i am talking about 127849...) [12:30] fabbione: (done) [12:30] pitti: thanks [12:33] pitti: I have now [12:33] Riddell: thanks === mvo [n=egon@p54A65FC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] cjwatson: thanks for the patch for apt, I merged it back into the devel line too (so that debian gets it too) [12:40] ok, cool [12:40] pitti: #133822 edgy is ok. missing only dapper === bigon [n=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] pitti: my final beta bugs are waiting in: network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu14, thunderbird 2.0.0.6-0ubuntu4, gnash 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 === pitti turns his attention back to the queue [12:54] pitti: #133822 is all good.. it can move to -updates === d33p__ [n=d33p@139.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] fabbione: grazie; done [12:58] pitti: thanks a lot [12:58] asac: cheers, all done === asac hugs pitti [01:04] cjwatson: the installer is taking ages to install on crypted LVM because of '/bin/blockdev-wipe'. Is there some easy way to circumwent that for testing purposes? [01:04] I'm testing on a 120GB disk :/ [01:04] siretart: VT switch and replace it with a shell script that does nothing? [01:05] hm [01:06] siretart: I don't know partman-crypto all that well I'm afraid [01:07] siretart: here, too; I guess the reason is to fill it with random bits to make sure that you cannot reconstruct the previous contents [01:08] pitti: yes, it makes perfectly sense to do that on a production system [01:08] siretart: there's an "Erase data:" toggle in the manual partitioning UI [01:08] siretart: so just go back to the manual UI from the confirmation screen and flip that [01:08] siretart: thus it would not be required at all, but for people who care about data confidentiality it might be important [01:08] pitti: for debugging purposes its just annoying [01:08] siretart: ack === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.191.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] cjwatson: aah, thanks. will do [01:08] siretart: a 4 GB virtual disk does fine :) === norsetto [n=Cesare@host181-227-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamiemcc [n=jamie@82-32-8-26.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] it seems that the automatic partitioner for crypto lvm doesn't setup any swap space === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:13] this might or might not be intended === phoenix [n=phoenix@144022.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fen [n=fen@84.179.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phoenix is now known as jweyrich === dexem [n=dani@220.Red-83-52-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fcestrada [n=fcestrad@189.141.239.189] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@84.121.1.235.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.212.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra pokes bad update-inetd ... why the heck does that run through debconf :/ === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-130-17.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] apparently because it offers a UI for resolving conflicting service changes [01:30] hrm [01:30] it breaks my ltsp-update-image it seems === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.appl.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] cjwatson: i've discovered root of the bug 93077, and patch for xkeyboard-config is provided, tested it and it works fine [01:31] Launchpad bug 93077 in xkeyboard-config "Non-exsisting layouts" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93077 [01:31] if i force noninteractive from ltsp-update-image likelyness that the udeb breaks again is big :/ === mvo [n=egon@p54A66696.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] ivoks: do you know what the "any" symbols were originally supposed to do? [01:34] cjwatson: if layout included some other layout (latin(level3)), then, if there's 'any', that key should be taken from latin [01:34] cjwatson: that works in X === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:35] but, since nobody uses 'any' these days, i figured out that it is obsolete or a bad thing to do [01:36] and in ckbcomp, any is replaced with VoidSymbol [01:37] ivoks: OK - it's not easy to see from the patch but I take it that changing "any" to the corresponding real symbols is the only change? [01:37] right === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] cjwatson: i'll send a patch to upstream also, so, hopefully, this is one-time fix [01:39] ivoks: OK, applying now [01:39] thanks [01:40] thank you === Lamego [i=Future@nat/ibm/x-3547a583eecc241c] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] siretart: it did for me [01:46] siretart: I even tried suspend to disk, and that worked fine (modulo that initramfs bug, of course) [01:46] siretart: the lvm contains ubuntu-{root,swap_1} [01:49] pitti: I found out why the cryptroot hook is broken [01:49] pitti: its the UUID mangling in /etc/fstab [01:49] siretart: ooh, crypted partitions don't have that, I take it [01:49] pitti: the cryptsetup initramfs hook is comparing /etc/cryptab and /etc/fstab entries. with the UUID mangling, it fails to detect the root device. that's why it doesn't mount root by default [01:50] siretart: darn, I don't have that installed system any more; how does fstab look like? [01:51] sorry? [01:51] siretart: I wonder how the uuid writing code can do that in the first place, since the encrypted partition should not have any uuid... [01:51] pitti: both the ext2 filesystem in the crypted container and the container itself have a UUID [01:51] that's the point of LUKS [01:52] the question is how to proceed from here [01:52] ah, right [01:53] siretart: I mixed that up with the pure dm-crypt install I did a while ago (no luks) === pedro [n=pedro@pc-10-217-44-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] since we need to redesign/rewrite the whole cryptsetup/udev integration, I think it might not be that unreasonable to just disable the UUID mangling for cryptoroot installations [01:53] siretart: so which UUIDs are in crypttab and which are in fstab? [01:54] pitti: of the inner ext3 fs. [01:55] pitti: the crypttab file (which we want to get rid of) doesn't know about UUIDs [01:55] siretart: hm; well, the inner ext3 one does make sense for fstab... === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-181-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] siretart: however, would disabling help at all? it seems to me that fstab is the wrong place to denote the 'outer' device (with either /dev/ or UUID) [01:58] siretart: after all, if UUID were replaced by /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root, the initramfs still cannot find that without actually unlocking the encrypted device [01:58] pitti: well, that's the way the debian crypt-root hook works [01:59] it does special magic in the initramfs to detect and open the root volume [01:59] hmm. I think we'd need to fix the add_device() function in cryptroot-hook [02:00] pitti: http://paste.debian.net/37868 [02:00] that part horribly breaks with UUID [02:00] siretart: back in five minutes (need to do some queue review) [02:01] it is given the first entry of /etc/fstab === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] I'm surprised we use UUIDs for crypted devices [02:02] cjwatson: why? [02:03] hmm, I forgot that udev had been changed to use UUIDs for LVM devices [02:03] ok, in that case I would be inclined to say that it would be easiest to fix cryptsetup to handle UUIDs [02:03] (I was going to say that we could turn them off in the installer, but we'd have to change the volumeid postinst too and it would be fiddly to distinguish them from LVM LVs) [02:04] needless to say that on my laptop, I don't use UUIDs for my crypted volumes either === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-9d244842c7d8debd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=Cesare@host181-227-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === torkel [i=torkel@monsun.hpc2n.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:10] cjwatson: if we do that, we'd need to change cryptsetup-udeb to create UUIDs in /etc/crypttab as well, I think [02:12] otherwise things become terrilbly hackish :/ === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:15] ogra@laptop:~$ LANG=C sudo adduser testuser [02:15] adduser: The group `testuser' already exists. [02:15] .... [02:15] seems users-admin doesnt like that case [02:16] seb128, ^^^ it shows the user being crteated in the gui .... but its not being created [02:16] no error message or something [02:16] ogra: known already [02:16] ah, k [02:18] ogra: bug #99276 [02:18] Launchpad bug 99276 in gnome-system-tools ""User and Groups" does not inform user that manual UID already exists and create user groups." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99276 [02:19] right, thanks :) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:25] siretart: makes sense. fortunately it would be only one upload to do both === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] siretart: back, reading scrollback === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:27] siretart: add_device()> right, I see the problem [02:27] hrm, compiz stopped working in ltsp :/ [02:28] sad [02:28] cjwatson: I don't think that we can fix this sensibly for beta; how easy is it to hide that option in d-i? (if it takes too long, we can release-note it, but it'll certainly generate some attraction and complaining) [02:30] Honestly, I think we should disable cryptsetup-udeb for beta, but enable it again shortly after that again. [02:31] siretart: I'd only enable it again when this is fixed === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Saindo"] [02:32] siretart: it was a feature we hoped to sneak into the beta because it seemed cheap to get, but apparently it isn't :/ [02:32] pitti: good option, however since I don't know (yet) how to build d-i, this would be unconvenient for me ;) [02:33] well, debian doesn't seem to believe in UUIDs [02:33] siretart: well, there's still plain dm-crypt in the expert mode [02:33] something that should change [02:33] pitti: no, if we disable cryptsetup-udeb. not even that is available [02:34] pitti: so perhaps we can just disable cryptoroot for now? [02:34] siretart: hm, and just fixing add_device to check /dev/disk/by-uuid/ wouldn't work? === eggauah [n=daniel@201.82.45.179] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:37] pitti: I'd expect it to work, if you can fix the node_is_in_crypttab() function as well === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cormil [n=3eacea15@207.250.49.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svolpe [n=Gerrath@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jonibo [n=jonas@193.12.106.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["The] === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svolpe [n=Gerrath@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] mjg59, is there any way to get working panning on a virtual desktop with the intek driver ? seems i can only get that working with i810 and 915resolution [02:53] *intel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["The] === Alvinistic [n=alvin@155.69.183.30] has joined #ubuntu-devel === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kirkland [n=kirkland@cpe-66-68-158-133.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === d33p__ [n=d33p@92.144.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] pitti: shove partman-auto-crypto to universe and the automatic option will disappear [02:57] pitti: the manual option is partman-crypto [02:57] cjwatson: ah, great; d-i is about to be rebuilt anyway, that should pick it up, right? [02:57] it's outside the initrd, doesn't need a d-i rebuild [02:57] cjwatson: I think disabling it for now is the way to go, WDYT? [02:57] ah [02:57] your call, I'm not clear enough on the difficulty of fixing cryptsetup [02:58] ogra: I believe so, but I've never tried [02:58] well, it ignores the "Virtual" stanza on the classmate with the intel driver [02:58] cjwatson: I don't think it's too hard to fix the initramfs script, but I don't have time for it right now, and time is getting tight [02:59] i810 works fine but needs 915resolution (i'm on the classmate atm) === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.191.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=Cesare@host181-227-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@ubuntu/member/mathiaz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:05] hi there, what is the best way to track "could enable desktop effects" issues. I cannot find any log files or verbose output === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] Poor amd64 === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A652B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveir1 [n=adilson@201.47.58.80.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] StevenK: What's wrong with it now? [03:08] Fujitsu: One of the buildds is down [03:08] Ah, as usual. === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:08] Fujitsu: Hrm? I haven't noticed that amd64 lost any buildds [03:09] Previously, I mean [03:09] StevenK: I'm sure I saw one down for more than a day a few days back, but it might just have been sparc. [03:09] Ah, now sparc on the other hand. :-) [03:12] StevenK: FYI, it's currently being discussed [03:12] pitti: Ah ha === cormil [n=3eacea15@207.250.49.24] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:16]