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superm1cjwatson, sure i'd be glad to, how do i revert the revision?12:44
CIA-18ubiquity: superm1 * r2256 ubiquity/ (4 files in 4 dirs): revert non critical changes from r2255 until after beta12:56
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-installer: Development of d-i and ubiquity in Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment
=== Topic (#ubuntu-installer): set by cjwatson at Fri Jan 5 15:12:40 2007
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spamhi there....08:57
spami have using ubuntu installer ..and doing some study on this.Can anybody tell me how does it check internally the distribution name and version name so that if proper repository address has not given it shows error.."invalid repo link" or "release file missing'09:01
spamduring mirror selection stage at the installation process09:02
spamis there anybody...09:09
cjwatsonspam: could you tell me the exact message, please? Don't paraphrase09:36
cjwatsonspam: at any rate, it looks in the Release file on the mirror09:36
cjwatsonwhich has various metadata like that09:37
spamcjwatson..:"the specified ubuntu archive mirror is either not available,or doesnot have a valid Release file on it.Please try a different mirror"10:33
spamCjwatson: r u there..? i was out of system....but i want to know what udeb does this checking during mirror selection stage.I checked one udeb is there"choose-mirror" is it the only mirror which checks the release file on the mirror?10:36
cjwatsonspam: yes, choose-mirror (and choose-mirror-bin, which comes from the same source package) is the one you're looking for10:48
cjwatsonspam: please don't do the "are you there" thing, by the way - I'm extremely busy this morning and it may take me a while to respond10:49
spamcjwatson:actually my problem is some what different. I have created one local repository and from there i am installting my softwares..no problem i am facing but i have given my version name."my-ver".So when installer is checking for version /code name the error is coming.10:52
spamso where i need to change exactly..as i changed the string name mentioned in "choose-mirror" pkg source code and after successful comilation i have included that one in the installer and compile it successfully,...no problem came but the same problem persist for choosing mirror.10:54
cjwatsondo you have dists/*/Release files on your mirror?10:54
spamyah...and exactly in the same order.only the string is different10:55
cjwatsonexactly where is your Release file? what directory?10:55
spamis it ok/11:01
spam/my-distro///dists//my-ver//Release11:02
spamsame what debian repository follows...11:02
spamand when it fails i went to shell prompt and from there i tried to connect the specified location using wget ..and i got success11:04
cjwatsondid you preseed mirror/suite=my-ver?11:04
cjwatsonor otherwise change the installer's default suite to retrieve11:04
cjwatson(e.g. by changing /etc/lsb-release in the initrd)11:05
spamthe first few line r like..11:05
spamArchitectures: i38611:05
spamCodename: anant11:05
spamComponents: main11:05
spamDate: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:24:05 UTC11:05
spamDescription: BOSS Anant Repository11:05
spamLabel: anant11:05
spamOrigin: boss11:05
spamSuite: unstable11:05
spamVersion: 2.011:05
spamMD5Sum:11:05
cjwatsonthat Suite: is bogus11:05
cjwatsonit should match the subdirectory of dists/11:05
spamthat means in this case it should be anant ??11:06
cjwatsonif that file is in dists/anant/Release, yes11:06
cjwatsonyou also need to change the installer to look there; it can't guess that it needs to retrieve dists/anant/Release by magic11:06
cjwatsonchanging /etc/lsb-release in the initrd is the easiest way11:06
cjwatsonI suggest reverting whatever changes you made to choose-mirror, as that shouldn't be necessary11:07
spamyah..thats it..11:07
spamok..but when i am choosing "enter manually.." option for mirror selection then also do i need to modify the d-i?11:08
cjwatson"enter information manually" lets you choose the hostname and directory, not usually the suite11:09
cjwatsonyou can avoid modifying the initrd by putting mirror/suite=anant on the kernel command line, if you prefer11:09
spamwill it be ok for my case if other parameters are same as in debian in my local mirror?11:12
spamcan i set "mirror/suite=anant" inside default file for PXE net booting installation/11:14
spamdefault file is in "ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default" which is the default configuration file...11:16
spamor i am missing something?11:16
cjwatsonparameters> that's too general a question so I can't be sure. Try it :-)11:16
cjwatsonyes, you can set it on the appropriate 'append' line in pxelinux.cfg11:18
spamyes .i got it.11:18
spamthanks..for your help.let me try this one11:19
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xivuloncjwatson, evand, had little time this w/e and almost no internet connection, would like to catch up briefly on any progress you have made11:29
xivulontonight I'll download and test the new image11:29
cjwatsonaside from what I told you about Friday's work, I have almost entirely been panicking about other things11:30
CIA-18ubiquity: cjwatson * r2257 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.5.1811:32
xivuloncjwatson, is grub safe in loopinstallations?11:35
xivulonI'd like to start having more people involved in the testing process, it does not matter if they do not end up with ubuntu installed, but at least the should not find their MBR overwritten11:35
xivulonDid not go that far in the installation process myselef on friday, but noticed that "install grub in hd0" was selected when I got stack at the "ready to install" page11:36
cjwatsonI haven't got that far in my testing11:40
xivulonnp will give it another go tonight11:41
cjwatsonoh, no, it isn't yet11:41
cjwatsonit needs a wubi change11:41
cjwatsonI'll commit that shortly11:41
cjwatsonI added a preseeding facility which should make it safe, but wubi needs to use it11:41
xivulonare you goint to merge into wubi branch? I can only do that tonight11:42
xivulonTo build wubi, remove the nsis fodler, and run "make clean; make prerequisites; make all"11:42
xivulonYou only need "make all" once if plugins are cleaned/modified, to rebuild wubi itself, make is enough11:43
xivulonThe other question which we left pending was whether Ubiquity can simply skip mounted devices/partitions (except when loopinstalling)11:46
cjwatsonI've committed it straight to the wubi branch11:46
xivulonthanks11:46
cjwatsonI'm not going to attempt to build it though, I'm not convinced enough that I can do that correctly11:47
cjwatsonskip mounted devices/partitions> sorry, I don't know what you mean11:47
xivulonI assume that ubiquity at some stage prepares a list of partitions (and devices)...11:47
xivulonIf some of those was already mounted, and we are not in a loopinstallation, would it be possible to skip it?11:48
xivulonI am not sure whether this is already current behaviour11:49
cjwatsonI still don't quite understand what problem you're trying to solve11:49
xivulonThe issue is to go around wubi read-only mode, but would also help when a LiveCD user had the windows partition mounted and then run Ubiquity targeting that partition11:50
cjwatsonbut what is the problem?11:50
xivulonIf a partition is mounted it cannot be resized online11:51
cjwatsonthat is, what undesirable thing happens that you want not to happen?11:51
cjwatsonoh, you mean in the manual partitioning UI?11:51
xivulonSo for instance in read-only mode you have /isodevice mounted. I'd still want users to run ubiquity to be able to install on a different partition11:51
cjwatsonI imagine the partitioner will simply not allow that. I don't think removing it from the manual partitioning UI is a good idea though; it would be very confusing to have only part of the disk listed11:52
cjwatsonin any event, that's post-beta11:52
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xivuloncjwatson "simply not allow that" is more than good enough11:52
cjwatsonone problem is that it might allow resizing other partitions11:53
cjwatsonon the same disk11:53
cjwatsonor creating/deleting partitions11:53
cjwatsonnone of that will work if a partition is mounted11:53
xivulonIs modifying other partitions a problem? (change in partition table are not well digested maybe)?11:54
cjwatsonit is not possible to make any changes to the partition table when the disk is locked, which will be the case if anything is mounted from that disk11:54
cjwatsonwell, you can change the partition table, but the kernel will refuse to reread it until you reboot11:55
xivulonMakes sense, even in this case though, Ubiquity has still a use though if the user pre-partitions the drives or already has a (non-mounted) partition to be overwritten.11:56
xivulonOr if the target partition is on a different device11:56
CIA-18ubiquity: cjwatson * r2258 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):11:56
CIA-18ubiquity: * GTK frontend:11:56
CIA-18ubiquity:  - Make release notes button work again (LP: #138365).11:56
cjwatsonright, it isn't useless, but it does need to be made clear in the UI11:56
xivulonI'd do so that if a device is mounted the user can only pick free/space or an existing partition to install into12:00
xivulonAnyway don't what to distract you too much with that12:00
cjwatsonfree space won't work either12:02
cjwatsonunless it's on another disk12:02
xivulonJust a list of available (non-mounted) partitions then (but I guess that splitting root and swap would be a problem).12:12
xivulonWhat about doing the partitioning and then forcing a reboot?12:13
cjwatsontoo horrible for words12:20
xivulonahah12:25
xivulonI agree12:25
xivuloncjwatson, last try: partprobe12:45
cjwatson?12:45
xivulonhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/re-read-the-partition-table-without-rebooting-linux-system.html12:46
cjwatsonxivulon: partprobe isn't magic; it's just a userspace program (and the same libparted calls are already made by the installer). That article is incomplete12:53
cjwatsonxivulon: if the kernel refuses to reread the partition table because the disk is locked, no userspace program can possibly help12:54
xivulonmakes sense12:59
xivulonhttp://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/8/46 and http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/include/linux/blkpg.h01:08
xivuloncould it be that there is some in-kernel support which is simply tapped by userspace toos?01:08
cjwatsonnot as far as I can see01:09
cjwatsonI would rather you tried it than that you pasted URLs here :-)01:09
xivulonI wish, but have to use a windows machine during the day01:10
cjwatsonit may be true that you can get away with BLKPG_ADD_PARTITION (which libparted already uses) if that specific partition isn't in use01:10
cjwatsonit's risky for a partitioner to rely on the exact details though01:11
cjwatsonparticularly if any kind of resizing or insertion of partitions is involved01:11
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evandweird, I could have sworn that the linkbutton issue was a GTK+ bug.03:12
evandbut I suppose I was just not setting it up correctly.03:13
cjwatsonI think the code fell out during the automation rearrangements; it was there originally03:13
evandyikes, sorry03:13
cjwatsonno worries, caught it03:13
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superm1yeah i had thought it was a GTK+ bug too, i had another pyGTK app that it randomly showed up in too.  i guess i'll have to take a look at your fix for it05:18
cjwatsonyou just need to do gtk.link_button_set_uri_hook(some_function)05:19
cjwatsongtk.LinkButton doesn't know how to launch a browser itself because that's pretty system-specific05:19
superm1so it doesn't by default call /usr/bin/sensible-browser then?05:19
cjwatsonno05:19
cjwatsonthere's some argument that it should but then your application would still break on other systems ...05:20
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CIA-18ubiquity: evand * r2259 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/osextras.py): * Fix typo in realpath_recurse (LP: #144460).05:27
evandLaunchpad Janitor angers me.05:28
evandThough I suppose this can be fixed with a capital D05:29
evandcjwatson: now that we have ubiquity-dm, should we make that an option in isolinux in Hardy or document it as a kernel cmdline option?05:45
cjwatsonsomething like that in hardy, yeah, though in that case it needs to not use --automatic05:46
evandindeed05:46
evandIs there some magic I can do to get past the partman crash with the latest daily cd and wubi?06:01
cjwatsonwhich partman crash?06:02
xivulon?06:03
evandreproducing...06:03
xivuloncjwatson, evand, if it may help with development, at this stage you can copy the ubuntu folder into a VM (ext3) drive and set the VM bootloader use the configfile in ubuntu/install06:15
cjwatsonpersonally I don't have time to do anything other than get the standard installation flow working06:19
evand"The filesystem ntfs cannot be mounted on /, because it is not a fully-functional Unix file system."06:21
evandClearly I must be doing something wrong06:21
evandthat only started to appear after I canceled and ran ubiquity manually using -d and --automatic.06:21
cjwatsonhmm06:21
cjwatsonwhat build?06:22
evandwubi: the one from friday, ubiquity 1.5.1706:22
cjwatsonhmm, that was supposed to be fixed in .1706:22
cjwatsonwhy is it trying to mount an ntfs filesystem on / ?06:22
cjwatsonoh, unless ...06:23
cjwatsonevand: can you get ps ax output from when that happens and see if autopartition-loop is there?06:23
evandwill do06:25
evanddoesn't appear to be06:27
cjwatsonhm06:27
cjwatsonok, not what I thought then06:27
cjwatsoncan you see what the innermost running partman script is?06:28
cjwatsonps axf may help06:28
evand check.d/08mountpoint_fat06:30
cjwatsonevand: ls /var/lib/partman/devices/*/*/mountpoint06:31
cjwatsonerr, maybe not quite that06:31
cjwatsongrep -H '^/$' /var/lib/partman/devices/*/*/mountpoint06:31
evand /06:32
cjwatsonI'm looking for filenames under /var/lib/partman/devices06:32
evandwell, /var/lib/partman/devices/=dev=sda/32256-17873533439/mountpoint;/06:32
cjwatsonno others?06:33
evandnope06:33
cjwatsonare you following what I'm looking for here? it may be easier for you to take it from here06:33
evandno, sorry I don't follow06:34
cjwatsonpartman-auto-loop 0ubuntu9 (included in ubiquity 1.5.17) added 'rm -f $partition_id/mountpoint' because the host NTFS filesystem shouldn't really be mounted on /06:34
cjwatsonpartman-auto-loop temporarily tells partman that that filesystem is mounted on / in order that it can use the mount.d scripts to mount it06:35
cjwatsonbut it's supposed to clean up after itself06:35
cjwatsonthe real / in a wubi install ought to be a loop-mounted filesystem06:35
evandI think this is my fault.06:35
cjwatsoni.e. =dev=loop2 or something not =dev=sda06:35
cjwatsonoh, it could be that you didn't clean up all the way after cancelling, maybe?06:35
evandI ran the install, partman crashed, and I hit cancel instead of continue.  This brought me back to the desktop.06:35
evandExactly06:35
cjwatson(remember my comments from Friday where I was doing losetup and stuff)06:36
evandindeed, I just realized I should have ran that06:36
evandtaking care of that now06:36
evandsorry for the false alarm06:37
cjwatsonit's certainly harder to clean up than it ought to be06:37
cjwatsonI think that is a bug, it's just awkward to fix06:37
evandcjwatson: have you gotten through a full install yet?06:42
cjwatsonno :-(06:50
CIA-18ubiquity: cjwatson * r2260 ubiquity/ubiquity/osextras.py: fix realpath_root a bit more so that it really returns something prefixed with root06:50
evandI got close06:50
evandat least to the formatting stage06:51
evandbut then it decided it had enough of life and hard locked06:51
cjwatsonsigh06:51
cjwatsonmemory?06:51
evandare you asking how much I was giving it?  about 768MB06:51
cjwatsonhuh06:52
evandI'm going to try again with htop running in the background06:52
cjwatsonI guess it's unionfs then06:52
evandah06:52
evandany updates from pkl?06:52
cjwatsonhe's off ill06:52
cjwatsonI've asked Ben to take over06:52
evanduh oh06:52
evandoh, ok06:52
evandI was unaware that ben knew the unionfs internals, but I suppose that doesn't matter when you're king kernel hacker06:53
cjwatsonI don't think he does much06:53
cjwatsonbut pkl gave a relatively detailed description of what he was doing the other day06:53
evandah, good06:54
evandugh, I think you're right about the hard lock being unionfs07:09
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cjwatsonmeh, wubi was broken by our CD designation switching from Alpha to Beta08:05
cjwatsonhow fragile08:05
cjwatsonevand: when xivulon returns, would you ask him to rebuild wubi urgently, and when that's done rebuild the live CDs?08:10
cjwatsonI've committed the relevant fix08:10
cjwatsonI'm off for a few hours now08:12
evandcjwatson: will do08:13
cjwatsonthanks08:13
evandno problem08:13
evandcjwatson: I'08:28
evandwhoops08:28
evandcjwatson: I'm not a RM by any means, but at what point does the beta release get pushed back on account of these unionfs bugs08:29
evandor can we go down to the 11th hour on that one08:29
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evandcjwatson: I have a fix for checking to see if we're running in automatic mode.  Basically, m-a.py sets a flag when it gets handed a question and if that flag is not set when it gets to the point where it would normally dive into the gtk loop, then it doesn't have any questions to ask, so it returns self.succeeded.09:45
evandIt's pretty much the same thing as checking for automatic, but arguably slightly cleaner09:45
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evandthough that's basically duplicating what filteredcommand is doing, arr09:51
evandxivulon:09:51
evand14:10:31 < cjwatson> evand: when xivulon returns, would you ask him to rebuild  wubi urgently, and when that's done rebuild the live CDs?09:51
evand14:10:38 < cjwatson> I've committed the relevant fix09:52
superm1_evand, have you been seeing any weird oddities of the installer stopping at random places on the latest dailies (after the unionfs fix)?  I've had random stops at apt configuration, configuring hardware, and configuring packages that have gotten installed.  Nothing tangible in the logs though, so I was going to hold off reporting it until I found something in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/installer or dmesg09:53
evandsuperm1_: unionfs is still an issue09:53
superm1_evand, okay so that is likely where its sitting then09:53
evandmost likely09:54
evandfor some reason I wasn't experiencing it for a brief period of time09:54
evandbut it's definitely back09:54
evandthe kernel team is on it09:54
superm1_i'm almost wondering if they are better off rolling back to the older (functional) unionfs release rather than debug these issues with the beta looming so close09:54
evandthey can't, though I do not recall why09:54
superm1_ah i see09:55
xivulonevand wubi rev 301 should be up09:55
evandxivulon: thanks!09:55
xivulonI'll explain how to rebuild yourself09:56
xivulonIt's fairly straightforward09:56
xivulon1 remove any nsis folder you may have09:56
xivulon2 make clean09:56
xivulon3 make prerequisites09:56
xivulon4 make all09:56
evand<- 64-bit, no WINE atm.09:57
xivulonhmm09:57
evandbut continue, I'll save it for reference09:57
xivulonthat's it, if you then edit nsis you only need to run "make"09:57
evandneat, thanks09:57
xivulonmake all also updates grub4dos, the plugins, and translations09:57
xivulonWhich do not need to be rebuilt every time unless you change them or run make clean09:58
evandok10:00
xivulondownloading the iso10:00
evandI haven't built a new one yet10:00
evandwaiting to see if any other changes need to go in from elsewhere in the distro10:01
xivulonHmm I am only interested in wubi/lupin relevant changes10:04
xivulonAre they in?10:04
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evandxivulon: if I understand the release manager correctly, he wants to see ubiquity 1.5.18 on the next CD, so I'm uploading that, letting it build, then triggering a new CD build10:21
evandshould be a few hours10:21
xivulonWhat is/isn't in there?10:21
xivulonIt looks that rev 2258 are not in, anything relevant there?10:23
evandas far as wubi is concerned, no10:24
xivulonok I am gonna test the iso I have. logging off now10:25
evandbest of luck -- unionfs is still an issue, so beware10:25
xivulonI'll report back any issue10:25
evandthanks10:25
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michael_e_browncjwatson, ping11:21
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xivuloncjwatson, I noticed that autopartition-loop does not include changes to make it skip mount.d scripts for mounted partitions11:48
xivulonYou mentioned that a few days ago, so I am not really surprised, just pointing out11:49
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michael_e_brownanybody here who can answer questions about ubiquity and preseed?11:54
michael_e_brownfor gutsy?11:54
xivulonwhat question?11:55
michael_e_brownso... I am trying to automate gutsy install.11:57
michael_e_brownusing live cd as the base.11:57
michael_e_brownand I dont see much documentation on it.11:57
michael_e_brownbasically what I have is /dev/sda1 is a Dell Utility partition11:57
michael_e_brown/dev/sda2 has a copy of the live CD copied to it11:58
michael_e_brownand has grub installed to it is bootable11:58
michael_e_brownand that boots and works just fine.11:58
michael_e_brownI can go through the graphical installer and repartition the rest of the disk and everything is wonderful11:58
michael_e_brownbut now, I need to totally automate that.11:58
evandmichael_e_brown: yes11:58
michael_e_brownI tried starting with a preseed, but cant seem to make it do anything.11:59
evandthe reason that it's not documented very well yet is that it was just developed in this release cycle.11:59
evandmichael_e_brown: you want to run ubiquity with the --automatic flag11:59
cjwatsonevand: unionfs> not sure yet, hoping not to have to decide11:59
michael_e_brownok, how to pass that?11:59
cjwatsonevand: m-a.py/automatic> let's stick with what we have for beta if it works, and roll that in afterwards11:59
michael_e_brownI have preseed=... on the kernel command line11:59
cjwatsonsuperm1_: rolling back unionfs involves backing out lots of apparmor stuff too12:00
evandcjwatson: agreed, that's why it's not checked in12:00
superm1_cjwatson, ah that's a bit unfortunate12:00
cjwatsonmichael_e_brown: booting with automatic-ubiquity (and a very current image) should suffice12:00
evandI just bzr shelved it12:00
cjwatson(as in, 'automatic-ubiquity' on the command line)12:00
michael_e_brownI have daily gutsy from today12:00
michael_e_brownso, just add that to the kernel command line?12:01
evandcjwatson: the wubi.exe bug was not reproduceable.  Do you want me to trigger a CD build now or wait for ubiquity to make its way into the archive?12:01
cjwatsonmichael_e_brown: yeah12:02
michael_e_brownbooting now..12:02
xivulonmichael_e_brown if the preseed is on hard disk you can use find_preseed=/path/to/preseed12:02
michael_e_brownhave that.12:02
cjwatsonevand: which image were you using?12:02
xivuloncjwatson: rev23112:02
michael_e_brownI have preseed=/cdrom/preseed/dell.seed12:02
cjwatsonmichael_e_brown: use file=12:02
xivulonthen you do not find_preseed12:02
cjwatson(or preseed/file=, equivalent)12:03
michael_e_brownsweet. Ok. 'automatic-ubiquity' worked. now?12:03
xivuloncjwatson, first time I run wubi I had a crush, but was not able to reproduce that again12:03
cjwatsonxivulon: I meant which CD image version, not which wubi version12:03
cjwatsonxivulon: I committed a fix to wubi to make it expect Beta rather than Alpha12:03
michael_e_brownRight now, I have 'preseed=/cdrom/preseed/dell.seed', I need "preseed/file=..." ?12:03
cjwatsonthat was the rebuild I wanted12:03
xivulonthat went in fine12:03
cjwatsonxivulon: you've told us several times how to rebuild wubi ourselves, which is great, but for beta I want to stick with the current build process12:04
xivulonI used the beta CD with wubi looking for beta12:04
cjwatsonthree days before beta is no time to be switching which machine is doing the build12:04
xivulonsure12:04
evandcjwatson: that went in fine, but pitti was in the process of building the CD and xivulon found that crash in wubi.exe so I held off on running the build, while at the same time pushing a new ubiquity out as it seemed like pitti wanted that asap12:04
xivuloncjwatson all other times I tried wubi went well, unfortunately I did not have --debug tracing the first time around12:05
xivulonI am writing from latest wubi boot indeed12:06
evand1.5.18 is stuck waiting for approval12:06
evandshould I just trigger a new cd build instead of waiting?12:06
xivulonevand can you quickly test wubi?12:07
xivulonI do not see any code change that could have triggered that though12:07
evandxivulon: yes, what am I looking for12:08
xivulonhmm any time I do tab completion in /var/log/ the shell freezes12:10
michael_e_brownok, so ubiquity is coming up automatically, but doesnt appear to have read the preseed.12:10
michael_e_brownjust a sec...12:10
evandxivulon: you seem to have broken CD rom detection12:12

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