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| === Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 24 Sep 19:00 UTC: Screencast Team | 25 Sep 15:00 UTC: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00 UTC: Desktop Team Development | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-meeting): set by ubotu at Fri Sep 21 15:30:18 2007 | ||
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| kraut | moin | 08:49 |
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| siretart | MootBot: | 09:07 |
| siretart | #help | 09:07 |
| siretart | #startmeeting | 09:07 |
| siretart | hmmm | 09:07 |
| dholbach | siretart: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot #startmeeting sould work | 09:09 |
| dholbach | #endmeeting | 09:09 |
| siretart | dholbach: in other meetings I've seen MootBot actually doing some answers | 09:10 |
| dholbach | yeah | 09:10 |
| siretart | so there seems to be a bit more magic behind it | 09:10 |
| dholbach | or it's broken | 09:10 |
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| popey | @schedule | 03:57 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 24 Sep 19:00: Screencast Team | 25 Sep 15:00: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00: Desktop Team Development | 03:57 |
| rexy_ | !UTC | 04:01 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about utc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 04:01 |
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| iGadget | hi | 08:03 |
| iGadget | so the meeting is in 1 hr? | 08:03 |
| === iGadget thought he was living in the GMT+1 area | ||
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| iGadget | 20:00 | 08:04 |
| iGadget | ohwell :) | 08:04 |
| iGadget | guess I'll just stick around | 08:05 |
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| popey | :) | 08:25 |
| popey | yes iGadget, it's 20:00 for the screencast meeting | 08:25 |
| popey | 20:00 UK time | 08:25 |
| popey | gah @ timezones | 08:25 |
| iGadget | popey: np, I'll stick around ;) | 08:26 |
| iGadget | I guess it's the daylight-saving-time-stuff that's making global coordination troublesome again ;) | 08:28 |
| Vaelen | Here ya go: | 08:28 |
| Vaelen | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=900,24,136,195,438 | 08:28 |
| Vaelen | You can customize it for whatever timezones you want to look at. | 08:29 |
| zul | popey: date --utc also works | 08:31 |
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| iGadget | Vaelen, zul: perhaps those are nice tips for the meeting page... | 08:32 |
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| Vaelen | Sorry for a very newbie question, but which meeting is going to take place at 20:00 UTC? I'm supposed to attend the next Kubuntu meeting, but I'm having a hard time figuring out when that is going to be, exactly. | 08:36 |
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| iGadget | Vaelen: next meeting is about screencasts | 08:38 |
| Vaelen | Oh hey, maybe I should read the channel topic next time. :P | 08:38 |
| Riddell | Vaelen: there is no meeting at 20:00 today | 08:38 |
| Riddell | Vaelen: the next kubuntu meeting should be on the first wednesday of next month | 08:38 |
| iGadget | Riddell: yes there is | 08:38 |
| Vaelen | Riddell: Ok, cool. What time do you normally have them? | 08:38 |
| iGadget | just not about kubuntu ;) | 08:38 |
| Riddell | Vaelen: what are you attending for? | 08:38 |
| Riddell | Vaelen: whenever is most convenient for people | 08:39 |
| Vaelen | I added something to the agenda after talking about it in #kubuntu-devel for a while. | 08:39 |
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| === iGadget will be right back | ||
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| popey | Bong! | 09:00 |
| popey | Screencast Team meeting starts | 09:00 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070924 | 09:00 |
| popey | short agenda for today :) | 09:00 |
| popey | anyone here for the meeting? | 09:01 |
| spd106 | I'm here again | 09:01 |
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| popey | yay | 09:01 |
| === iGadget here :) | ||
| popey | * Action points from last meeting | 09:02 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070910 | 09:02 |
| popey | hmm, most of that will become part of the next item, so will just jump to it | 09:02 |
| popey | * Current status | 09:02 |
| popey | We are behind again :( | 09:02 |
| popey | I blame 3 things:- | 09:03 |
| popey | 1. Having two children whose birthdays are in september | 09:03 |
| popey | 2. Having a week holiday | 09:03 |
| popey | 3. Me being lazy ;) | 09:03 |
| popey | So it looks like I won't be able to make 20 more screencasts before the end of the month to take us from the last one (10) to the 30th | 09:04 |
| popey | So I suggest that instead I will carry on making them, numbering them 11-30 but releasing them when they're ready | 09:04 |
| popey | Which means the month of screencasts lasts for about 2 months | 09:04 |
| popey | which is of course disappointing | 09:04 |
| popey | but it was a mad plan anyway | 09:05 |
| popey | I would rather continue to make high quality screencasts than churn out 20 small ones of low quality | 09:05 |
| spd106 | I agree | 09:05 |
| popey | how does that sound? | 09:05 |
| popey | should I put an announcement on the site? | 09:05 |
| popey | we have already had people asking in comments about when the next ones will be out, where they are, what has happened.. | 09:06 |
| popey | I have one that I made today that I will upload tomorrow, I propose uloading then posting a comment afterwards detailing the revised plan | 09:06 |
| iGadget | sounds like a plan | 09:06 |
| popey | we have also lost Andrew Gee which is a resource less for making screencasts | 09:06 |
| popey | which doesn't help | 09:06 |
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| popey | Ok, I will publish this next one "Updates & Upgrades" tomorrow and put an announcement in | 09:07 |
| popey | yeah, I also need to upload some of the queue that built up | 09:07 |
| iGadget | Alan, there's a chance I'll have to step down as well :( | 09:07 |
| popey | oh dear | 09:07 |
| iGadget | Allthough I haven't contributed that much yet | 09:07 |
| popey | heh :) | 09:08 |
| popey | Hey, I'm happy to get any contributions at all, no pressure on anyone | 09:08 |
| popey | It's not like the screencasts are going to delay the release of Ubuntu :) | 09:08 |
| popey | (not this release anyway ;) | 09:08 |
| popey | I am pragmatic if nothing else | 09:08 |
| popey | I need to also look at revising the plan now I am back from holiday | 09:09 |
| popey | I shall mail the list with the plan I had and see if we can get a discussion going on what screencasts people want | 09:09 |
| popey | or maybe ask on the site? | 09:09 |
| iGadget | Perhaps both? | 09:09 |
| popey | Post a message asking for requests as comments? | 09:09 |
| popey | yeah, good idea | 09:09 |
| spd106 | Are we going to use 7.10 for all screencasts? | 09:10 |
| popey | good question | 09:10 |
| popey | yes and no | 09:10 |
| popey | the updates & upgrades one I did today uses dapper, edgy, feisty and gutsy :) | 09:10 |
| popey | for the most part 7.10 would seem like a good target | 09:10 |
| spd106 | It's just the background in Gutsy changed recently | 09:10 |
| popey | as it will soon be released, so it means the screencasts are "relavent" | 09:10 |
| popey | yeah, i noticed that today :) | 09:10 |
| popey | these things will happen | 09:10 |
| iGadget | it's an improvement, though | 09:11 |
| popey | on all screencasts that feature gutsy I do try to mention that its based on a development release | 09:11 |
| popey | And I don't expect gutsy to change _that_ much between now and oct 19th | 09:11 |
| popey | 18th | 09:11 |
| popey | a few cosmetic things isn't a major deal | 09:11 |
| iGadget | maybe it's a bit far off, but should we focus on moving to 8.04 as soon as it's usable, since it'll be an LTS? | 09:12 |
| popey | heheh | 09:12 |
| popey | it won't be usable until the end of the year :) | 09:12 |
| popey | at least | 09:12 |
| iGadget | okay, too far off then ;) | 09:12 |
| popey | in my experience the delta between one release and the next is actually pretty small | 09:12 |
| popey | if you compare dapper and gutsy there's quite a difference, but compare edgy and feisty and the difference is much less | 09:13 |
| popey | there are changes of course, and we should be aware of them | 09:13 |
| spd106 | It's not like we'll be using KDE 4 | 09:13 |
| popey | but I don't think we should fret about it too much | 09:13 |
| popey | no, indeed | 09:13 |
| popey | ok, that's current status | 09:13 |
| iGadget | what about (I'm brainstorming here)... 'scripting' the screencasts so they can be redone easily in another version? | 09:13 |
| popey | they are _kinda_ scripted | 09:13 |
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| popey | but not too much | 09:14 |
| popey | you mean a storyboard type thing? | 09:14 |
| iGadget | no, I mean an automated kind of thing | 09:14 |
| popey | oh | 09:14 |
| iGadget | I don't know if it's possible | 09:14 |
| popey | me neither | 09:14 |
| iGadget | would it be worth investigating? | 09:14 |
| popey | worth a thought, yes | 09:14 |
| popey | sorry, i was thinking then :) | 09:15 |
| iGadget | np, I'm a slow reader ;) | 09:15 |
| popey | will note that and we could have a chat on the list about it | 09:15 |
| popey | g o o d | 09:15 |
| popey | any questions/comments about the curent status? | 09:15 |
| popey | * Month Of Screencasts 2007 progress | 09:16 |
| popey | 10 of 30 complete, to be 11 of 30 tomorrow | 09:16 |
| popey | more ideas needed - as mentioned | 09:16 |
| popey | will mail the list and canvas opinion on the site | 09:17 |
| popey | blimey, that's it | 09:17 |
| popey | fastest meeting ever | 09:17 |
| popey | any further questions, comments or points you guys want to talk about | 09:17 |
| iGadget | geez... and it's my first :) | 09:17 |
| popey | we have some time | 09:17 |
| popey | ok | 09:18 |
| === iGadget thinks | ||
| spd106 | Where's the MoS schedule again? I've lost it | 09:18 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MonthOfScreencasts | 09:19 |
| spd106 | Oh yeah | 09:19 |
| popey | :) | 09:19 |
| popey | i should be uploading two tomorrow | 09:19 |
| popey | assuming I get a nice quiet house to work in :S | 09:20 |
| popey | (which is a big issue here - screaming babies in the background of a screencast don't sound good) :) | 09:20 |
| popey | Matthew Rossi asked if we could have a meeting that was at a time when he could attend - he is in Aus | 09:20 |
| popey | so he ideally wanted one on a weekend | 09:21 |
| iGadget | just a suggestion about meeting on IRC... you guys know mebeam.com? | 09:21 |
| popey | I didn't, but I do now | 09:21 |
| popey | thing about irc is that it has a very low barrier to entry | 09:22 |
| popey | many of the web conferencing systems require flash, a webcam, a mic etc | 09:22 |
| iGadget | true, if you're a good typist ;) | 09:22 |
| spd106 | Do you need a camera? | 09:22 |
| popey | looks like it | 09:22 |
| iGadget | for mebeam.com, you do yes | 09:22 |
| spd106 | That'll be tricky then | 09:22 |
| popey | it reduces the potential people who could join I guess? | 09:23 |
| popey | given every other team meets on irc.. | 09:23 |
| iGadget | okay, perhaps that's too much then. But what about audio converencing? | 09:23 |
| popey | iGadget: interesting point | 09:23 |
| popey | the Ubuntu-UK loco team are looking at using asterisk | 09:23 |
| popey | to do call conferencing via SIP or something | 09:23 |
| iGadget | I figure most people involved in screencasts would have a mic... ;) | 09:24 |
| popey | needs a mic and a reasonable net connection | 09:24 |
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| popey | heh :) | 09:24 |
| popey | the problem with all the video/audio conferences is logging though | 09:24 |
| popey | i can easily copy/paste this log into the wiki, job done | 09:24 |
| iGadget | true, true | 09:24 |
| popey | with the audio/video ones someone has to transcribe it | 09:24 |
| Daviey | SIP: ^ anybody wanna help test? | 09:24 |
| popey | heh :) | 09:24 |
| popey | I will test with you another time yes Daviey :) | 09:25 |
| popey | for those that don't know, Daviey is the expert on Asterisk around here | 09:25 |
| popey | and voip in general | 09:25 |
| iGadget | cool | 09:25 |
| Daviey | 'expert' hmm :P | 09:25 |
| === iGadget should get his audio setup working first ;) | ||
| spd106 | What about a SIP screencast Davey? | 09:25 |
| popey | heh | 09:26 |
| iGadget | hehe :) | 09:26 |
| popey | we have that scheduled actually | 09:26 |
| Daviey | Isn't there already an ekiga screencast? | 09:26 |
| popey | one all about voip | 09:26 |
| popey | not one of ours no Daviey | 09:26 |
| popey | i was thinking something more general, not necessarily just ekiga | 09:26 |
| iGadget | ekiga would be nice... since it's already shipping with ubuntu | 09:26 |
| popey | agreed | 09:26 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MonthOfScreencasts | 09:26 |
| iGadget | (never got it working, though) | 09:26 |
| popey | ^ look at the bottom of that page :) | 09:26 |
| iGadget | okay, will do | 09:26 |
| popey | "ekiga" :) | 09:26 |
| popey | just needs someone to make it :) | 09:27 |
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| popey | you could subscribe to it :) | 09:27 |
| Daviey | Well i'm not sure how much you could cover.. Would either need to be reallly high level - or pretty lowlevel (technical and ~20mins) | 09:27 |
| popey | 30 mins isn't unreasonable | 09:28 |
| popey | i made a 40 min one today :) | 09:28 |
| Daviey | eager beaver | 09:28 |
| popey | anyway, can I just get the next meeting date out of the way | 09:28 |
| popey | I propose the weekend of the 13th october | 09:28 |
| popey | to allow the aussies to join in | 09:28 |
| popey | thats over 2 weeks away | 09:28 |
| popey | but with our slim agenda I don't think that's an issue? | 09:29 |
| iGadget | I have one proposal about subtitles, if we're done with the SIP thing :) | 09:29 |
| popey | go ahead | 09:29 |
| iGadget | there are a lot of subs now that are on screen for less than 2 secs now | 09:29 |
| iGadget | thats _really_ fast | 09:29 |
| iGadget | most people I checked can't read that fast | 09:30 |
| popey | hmm, I talk too fast? | 09:30 |
| iGadget | maybe | 09:30 |
| spd106 | yep | 09:30 |
| iGadget | but what I usually do is merge two subs together | 09:30 |
| iGadget | in most cases, that's enough | 09:30 |
| spd106 | It's either short time or they take up too much screen space | 09:30 |
| iGadget | indeed, that does occur | 09:30 |
| popey | so it would be better if I talk slower, say less? | 09:30 |
| popey | leave big gaps :) | 09:30 |
| iGadget | especially in languages that need 'more space' :) | 09:31 |
| popey | heh | 09:31 |
| popey | like Deutsch? | 09:31 |
| Daviey | Did you guys find a solution to multi-audio track? | 09:31 |
| iGadget | like nederlands ;) | 09:31 |
| popey | ahhh | 09:31 |
| iGadget | deutsch probably as well | 09:31 |
| popey | Daviey: ogg does support multiple audio tracks | 09:31 |
| popey | but the problem is we would have to keep remastering every time someone made a new audio track | 09:31 |
| popey | and re-encode | 09:31 |
| popey | and they would bloat up with multiple languages on board | 09:32 |
| iGadget | it would be very sweet if we could figure out a way to do that smoothly | 09:32 |
| popey | likely easier to keep them separate | 09:32 |
| iGadget | mmmkay... true | 09:32 |
| popey | ok iGadget and spd106 I will endeavour to speak slower | 09:32 |
| popey | and leave some pauses for text | 09:32 |
| popey | sorry about that | 09:32 |
| iGadget | no prob, we all live and learn ;) | 09:32 |
| popey | indeed | 09:32 |
| spd106 | The applications screencast was particularly bad | 09:32 |
| popey | this is exactly why we have these meetings :) | 09:32 |
| iGadget | precisely :) | 09:33 |
| popey | because there is a lot in it done very quickly? | 09:33 |
| spd106 | yes, too much really | 09:33 |
| popey | ok | 09:33 |
| popey | I will bear that in mind for future screencasts | 09:33 |
| popey | one problem I worry about is that if I go to slow it might get boring | 09:33 |
| spd106 | It was still very good | 09:33 |
| popey | people might nod off | 09:33 |
| popey | it's okay spd106 I can take it ;) | 09:34 |
| iGadget | Well it's quite easy to see - if you're making english subtitles which are on screen less that 2 seconds, that's suspicious | 09:34 |
| popey | haha | 09:34 |
| iGadget | usually that's too fast | 09:35 |
| popey | like small print on a tv advert | 09:35 |
| iGadget | ghehe... something like that ;) | 09:35 |
| popey | "Warning, the value of your house may go down as well as up,..." | 09:35 |
| popey | ok, point taken, will fix that in future ones | 09:35 |
| iGadget | * toll free number, only connection charges apply ($10,-) | 09:35 |
| popey | lucky we're only 1/3rd the way through then :) | 09:35 |
| popey | :) | 09:35 |
| spd106 | Did you get the flash streaming working? | 09:36 |
| popey | the subtitles in the flash streaming? | 09:36 |
| spd106 | yes | 09:36 |
| popey | no, not yet | 09:36 |
| popey | but I haven't spent much time on that | 09:36 |
| spd106 | ok | 09:36 |
| popey | will do though | 09:36 |
| spd106 | Don't spend too much on that, it can be sorted out later | 09:37 |
| popey | sure | 09:37 |
| popey | I spent too long on it the week before holiday | 09:37 |
| popey | will concentrate on making the screencasts for now | 09:37 |
| iGadget | so... what about the long term - how are we going to keep track on screencasts that are no longer acurate and need to be updated? | 09:37 |
| popey | well iGadget that's a very good point# | 09:38 |
| popey | the one I made today in effect replaces one I made a year ago | 09:38 |
| popey | and the installing one supplements the installation one I did a year ago too | 09:38 |
| spd106 | deja vu | 09:38 |
| popey | I guess I could put a note on the old ones "obsolete - please see this screencast" with a link to the newer ones | 09:38 |
| iGadget | perhaps it would be a good idea to mention which ubuntu versions are affected by the screencast? | 09:38 |
| popey | the ones this year are more comprehensive though | 09:38 |
| iGadget | in the screencast itself? | 09:39 |
| popey | i try to tag them on the site | 09:39 |
| popey | http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/taxonomy/term/43 <- only gutsy ones | 09:39 |
| spd106 | Tag them with Ubuntu release or just the date? | 09:39 |
| iGadget | maybe both :) | 09:39 |
| popey | http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/taxonomy/term/35 only dapper | 09:39 |
| iGadget | there might be screencasts which can last for ages | 09:39 |
| iGadget | like the one about free software | 09:40 |
| popey | yeah | 09:40 |
| iGadget | other ones can become obsolete in the next version, there's no way to be sure in advance I guess | 09:40 |
| popey | indeed | 09:40 |
| spd106 | New ones every six months | 09:40 |
| popey | although to be fair the ones about dapper are still accurate | 09:40 |
| popey | dapper is a current supported release | 09:40 |
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| popey | there is a wider plan here | 09:41 |
| popey | don't know if I explained previously did I? | 09:41 |
| popey | to put screencasts directly in ubuntu | 09:41 |
| spd106 | On the DVD? | 09:41 |
| popey | not sure yet, probably online, streamed | 09:41 |
| popey | so you can go to Help --> Videos in any app | 09:41 |
| iGadget | sweet! | 09:42 |
| popey | and get a window come up with a selection of videos | 09:42 |
| popey | that would need some major management | 09:42 |
| iGadget | that would surely beat the crap out of MS online support | 09:42 |
| popey | and all the stuff we are learning about during MoS can feed into this | 09:42 |
| popey | so the feedback I get from you guys is great | 09:42 |
| popey | it's still an early plan | 09:42 |
| iGadget | but... that will require massive amounts of work | 09:43 |
| popey | yup :) | 09:43 |
| iGadget | do we have enough manpower to do this? | 09:43 |
| popey | they would be short videos | 09:43 |
| popey | seconds or minutes long | 09:43 |
| spd106 | It's more online integration too | 09:43 |
| popey | showing how to do specific tasks | 09:43 |
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| popey | yeah, needs a lot of work | 09:43 |
| iGadget | which... can be combined to create entire screencasts? | 09:43 |
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| popey | yeah, watch them all back to back | 09:43 |
| popey | :) | 09:43 |
| iGadget | a 'lego' sort of screencast-building? nice :) | 09:44 |
| popey | yeah, I like the building blocks analogy | 09:44 |
| popey | they could be tagged and rated | 09:44 |
| spd106 | Going back to the scripting thought... would festival be any use? | 09:44 |
| popey | festival the text to speech thing? | 09:44 |
| spd106 | yeah | 09:44 |
| popey | useful for? | 09:44 |
| spd106 | automating screencast | 09:45 |
| popey | I don't know. how do you mean? | 09:45 |
| iGadget | my idea about scripting was about the visual part only, but if festival is good? | 09:45 |
| iGadget | I haven't played with it yet | 09:45 |
| spd106 | It cuts the work down a little | 09:45 |
| iGadget | yes, but if it cuts down the quality too much, I'm not sure if it's an improvement... | 09:46 |
| iGadget | the audiotrack is key to getting the user involved IMHO | 09:46 |
| popey | you mean, get festival to "read" the script? | 09:46 |
| spd106 | Yes | 09:46 |
| popey | ahhh | 09:46 |
| popey | is festival any good? :) | 09:46 |
| popey | i haven't tried it for some time | 09:47 |
| spd106 | No idea, just read about it recently | 09:47 |
| popey | to be honest the audio part is not that time consuming | 09:47 |
| iGadget | do you know radiohead's 'OK computer'? ;) | 09:47 |
| popey | its prep, recording the video and editing it that takes the time | 09:47 |
| popey | the audio takes about as long as the video is in length | 09:47 |
| popey | if I make a 40 min video the audio takes 40 mins to make (roughly) | 09:47 |
| popey | but it takes 2+hours to make a 30 min video | 09:48 |
| iGadget | so I guess we'd gain much more time in getting the video part smoothed out.. right? | 09:48 |
| popey | yeah, and that's not easy | 09:49 |
| popey | some of it is planning - figuring out what I am going to video.. | 09:49 |
| iGadget | besides of automated scripting making re-recording a lot easier, could it help save time in the initial recording process? | 09:49 |
| popey | some of it is videoing | 09:49 |
| popey | i doubt it would help much to be honest | 09:50 |
| popey | one day I will create the "how to make a screencast, screencast" that people keep asking me for | 09:50 |
| spd106 | You could then run a competition for the final screencast | 09:50 |
| iGadget | well, if you really want users to assist you, I suppose that one has a top priority... | 09:50 |
| popey | iGadget: i have written it up on the wiki :) | 09:51 |
| popey | I am not sure this is the thing that stops people | 09:51 |
| popey | people know how to create them | 09:51 |
| iGadget | eh... | 09:51 |
| popey | I am not sure that "knowing how to create a screencast" is what stops people making them | 09:51 |
| popey | they know how to make them, but they don't have the time to do it? | 09:51 |
| iGadget | I don't, but I'm just plain lazy besides having way to little time, so nevermind me ;) | 09:51 |
| popey | it's quicker/easier to make a wiki page then a screencast | 09:51 |
| popey | exactly :) | 09:52 |
| popey | nothing wrong with that, that's just the problem we have | 09:52 |
| popey | people don't have time to commit to something like this | 09:52 |
| spd106 | Would you accept lower res screencasts? | 09:52 |
| spd106 | 1024x768 is all I have | 09:52 |
| popey | which I why I am glad that I can get on and make them and you guys can transcribe/translate them | 09:52 |
| iGadget | I thought 1024x768 was okay? | 09:52 |
| popey | for non-mos2007, yes, definately | 09:52 |
| popey | we already have some at 1024x768 | 09:53 |
| iGadget | eh... what's mos2007? | 09:53 |
| popey | Month Of Screencast 2007 | 09:53 |
| popey | :) | 09:53 |
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| iGadget | darn... stupid :) | 09:53 |
| iGadget | sorry | 09:53 |
| popey | i.e. if it's "just" a screencast, not specifically for MoS, then yes, 1024x768 is great | 09:53 |
| popey | np | 09:53 |
| popey | silly acronym | 09:53 |
| popey | the only reason is that I specifically wanted 30 high quality, high res ones | 09:54 |
| spd106 | That's what I thought | 09:54 |
| popey | if you see the front page of the site there are 3 that are 1024x768 :) | 09:54 |
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| popey | what's important is consistent quality | 09:54 |
| iGadget | but... If we are going to start with this building-block thing, then we should agree on one res only, right? | 09:55 |
| popey | oh that's not coming for a while :) | 09:55 |
| popey | i wouldn't start thinking too seriously about that until about November :) | 09:55 |
| popey | (after UDS Boston) :) | 09:55 |
| iGadget | okay... so what about smoothing the creation process, would that be doable? | 09:55 |
| iGadget | working with the istanbul team for example? | 09:56 |
| iGadget | I mean, making the creating process much simpler and less time consuming? | 09:56 |
| popey | yeah, I had a meeting with jono about this.. he had some ideas about this subject | 09:56 |
| popey | he suggested a screencasting application | 09:56 |
| iGadget | ghehe... his Next Big Thing after Jokosher? :D | 09:57 |
| popey | one that gave you a window inside which you have a nested session or something | 09:57 |
| popey | heh | 09:57 |
| popey | and recorded it | 09:57 |
| jono | iGadget: oi! :) | 09:57 |
| popey | there are already tools that can do this but they are non free | 09:57 |
| iGadget | jono! :D | 09:57 |
| popey | and anyway I don't think this would shave massive amounts off the time | 09:57 |
| popey | it would make it easier, thats for sure | 09:57 |
| iGadget | one sec, brb | 09:58 |
| popey | we're running out of time | 09:58 |
| popey | I will bring all these things up on the list for further discussion | 09:58 |
| popey | so we can get the ideas fleshed out | 09:58 |
| spd106 | Have we agreed on the next meeting time? | 09:58 |
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| iGadget | okay... I for one would surely love to contribute more, but the current process is just way to much work for me, sorry :( | 09:59 |
| iGadget | and with contribute I mean creating screencasts, redubbing them etc. | 10:00 |
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| iGadget | loads of time :) | 10:01 |
| popey | spd106: I will figure out a time and mail the list | 10:01 |
| popey | need to find out what time Aus is awake :) | 10:02 |
| popey | heh, thats what I did iGadget :) | 10:02 |
| iGadget | geez... so who's paying your bills now? :) | 10:02 |
| iGadget | canonical? :D | 10:02 |
| popey | heh | 10:02 |
| popey | I am on "holiday" | 10:03 |
| popey | spending time at home with the family, and when they stop bothering me, I make screencasts :) | 10:03 |
| iGadget | gheheh | 10:03 |
| iGadget | I know the feeling | 10:03 |
| popey | ok, so I will paste a summary of this to the wiki | 10:03 |
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| popey | :) | 10:03 |
| popey | and mail the list with the subjects we have talked about | 10:03 |
| iGadget | great | 10:04 |
| popey | and update the site with a status update | 10:04 |
| popey | thanks for the input guys, much appreciated | 10:04 |
| iGadget | np, thanks for listening ;) | 10:04 |
| popey | next meeting likely to be oct 13th/14th | 10:04 |
| spd106 | ok | 10:04 |
| iGadget | that's a weekend, good choice | 10:04 |
| popey | oh, good :) | 10:05 |
| popey | you might not say that when you see the time ;) | 10:05 |
| popey | 4am! | 10:05 |
| popey | (just kidding) | 10:05 |
| iGadget | ;) | 10:05 |
| popey | right, cheers chaps, wifey calls :) | 10:05 |
| iGadget | allright, cheers! | 10:05 |
| spd106 | Thanks | 10:06 |
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| iGadget | bedtime... bye all | 10:07 |
| popey | nn | 10:07 |
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| Zero_ | Hello | 10:22 |
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| Zero_ | where is the meeting ? | 10:28 |
| popey | @schedule | 10:30 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 25 Sep 15:00: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00: Desktop Team Development | 27 Sep 15:00: Community Council meeting | 10:30 |
| popey | what meeting Zero_ ? | 10:30 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 25 Sep 15:00 UTC: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00 UTC: Desktop Team Development | 27 Sep 15:00 UTC: Community Council meeting | ||
| Zero_ | ops | 10:31 |
| Zero_ | it's over ^^ | 10:31 |
| Zero_ | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1098 | 10:31 |
| popey | yeah, we just had it | 10:31 |
| popey | the logs are online https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070924 | 10:31 |
| Zero_ | tkz :) | 10:32 |
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