[08:49] <kraut> moin
[09:07] <siretart> MootBot:
[09:07] <siretart> #help
[09:07] <siretart> #startmeeting
[09:07] <siretart> hmmm
[09:09] <dholbach> siretart: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot #startmeeting sould work
[09:09] <dholbach> #endmeeting
[09:10] <siretart> dholbach: in other meetings I've seen MootBot actually doing some answers
[09:10] <dholbach> yeah
[09:10] <siretart> so there seems to be a bit more magic behind it
[09:10] <dholbach> or it's broken
[03:57] <popey> @schedule
[03:57] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 24 Sep 19:00: Screencast Team | 25 Sep 15:00: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00: Desktop Team Development
[04:01] <rexy_> !UTC
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <iGadget> hi
[08:03] <iGadget> so the meeting is in 1 hr?
[08:04] <iGadget> 20:00
[08:04] <iGadget> ohwell :)
[08:05] <iGadget> guess I'll just stick around
[08:25] <popey> :)
[08:25] <popey> yes iGadget, it's 20:00 for the screencast meeting
[08:25] <popey> 20:00 UK time
[08:25] <popey> gah @ timezones
[08:26] <iGadget> popey: np, I'll stick around ;)
[08:28] <iGadget> I guess it's the daylight-saving-time-stuff that's making global coordination troublesome again ;)
[08:28] <Vaelen> Here ya go:
[08:28] <Vaelen> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=900,24,136,195,438
[08:29] <Vaelen> You can customize it for whatever timezones you want to look at.
[08:31] <zul> popey: date --utc also works
[08:32] <iGadget> Vaelen, zul: perhaps those are nice tips for the meeting page...
[08:36] <Vaelen> Sorry for a very newbie question, but which meeting is going to take place at 20:00 UTC?  I'm supposed to attend the next Kubuntu meeting, but I'm having a hard time figuring out when that is going to be, exactly.
[08:38] <iGadget> Vaelen: next meeting is about screencasts
[08:38] <Vaelen> Oh hey, maybe I should read the channel topic next time. :P
[08:38] <Riddell> Vaelen: there is no meeting at 20:00 today
[08:38] <Riddell> Vaelen: the next kubuntu meeting should be on the first wednesday of next month
[08:38] <iGadget> Riddell: yes there is
[08:38] <Vaelen> Riddell: Ok, cool.  What time do you normally have them?
[08:38] <iGadget> just not about kubuntu ;)
[08:38] <Riddell> Vaelen: what are you attending for?
[08:39] <Riddell> Vaelen: whenever is most convenient for people
[08:39] <Vaelen> I added something to the agenda after talking about it in #kubuntu-devel for a while.
[09:00] <popey> Bong!
[09:00] <popey> Screencast Team meeting starts
[09:00] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070924
[09:00] <popey> short agenda for today :)
[09:01] <popey> anyone here for the meeting?
[09:01] <spd106> I'm here again
[09:01] <popey> yay
[09:02] <popey> * Action points from last meeting
[09:02] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070910
[09:02] <popey> hmm, most of that will become part of the next item, so will just jump to it
[09:02] <popey> * Current status
[09:02] <popey> We are behind again :(
[09:03] <popey> I blame 3 things:-
[09:03] <popey> 1. Having two children whose birthdays are in september
[09:03] <popey> 2. Having a week holiday
[09:03] <popey> 3. Me being lazy ;)
[09:04] <popey> So it looks like I won't be able to make 20 more screencasts before the end of the month to take us from the last one (10) to the 30th
[09:04] <popey> So I suggest that instead I will carry on making them, numbering them 11-30 but releasing them when they're ready
[09:04] <popey> Which means the month of screencasts lasts for about 2 months
[09:04] <popey> which is of course disappointing
[09:05] <popey> but it was a mad plan anyway
[09:05] <popey> I would rather continue to make high quality screencasts than churn out 20 small ones of low quality
[09:05] <spd106> I agree
[09:05] <popey> how does that sound?
[09:05] <popey> should I put an announcement on the site?
[09:06] <popey> we have already had people asking in comments about when the next ones will be out, where they are, what has happened..
[09:06] <popey> I have one that I made today that I will upload tomorrow, I propose uloading then posting a comment afterwards detailing the revised plan
[09:06] <iGadget> sounds like a plan
[09:06] <popey> we have also lost Andrew Gee which is a resource less for making screencasts
[09:06] <popey> which doesn't help
[09:07] <popey> Ok, I will publish this next one "Updates & Upgrades" tomorrow and put an announcement in
[09:07] <popey> yeah, I also need to upload some of the queue that built up
[09:07] <iGadget> Alan, there's a chance I'll have to step down as well :(
[09:07] <popey> oh dear
[09:07] <iGadget> Allthough I haven't contributed that much yet
[09:08] <popey> heh :)
[09:08] <popey> Hey, I'm happy to get any contributions at all, no pressure on anyone
[09:08] <popey> It's not like the screencasts are going to delay the release of Ubuntu :)
[09:08] <popey> (not this release anyway ;)
[09:08] <popey> I am pragmatic if nothing else
[09:09] <popey> I need to also look at revising the plan now I am back from holiday
[09:09] <popey> I shall mail the list with the plan I had and see if we can get a discussion going on what screencasts people want
[09:09] <popey> or maybe ask on the site?
[09:09] <iGadget> Perhaps both?
[09:09] <popey> Post a message asking for requests as comments?
[09:09] <popey> yeah, good idea
[09:10] <spd106> Are we going to use 7.10 for all screencasts?
[09:10] <popey> good question
[09:10] <popey> yes and no
[09:10] <popey> the updates & upgrades one I did today uses dapper, edgy, feisty and gutsy :)
[09:10] <popey> for the most part 7.10 would seem like a good target
[09:10] <spd106> It's just the background in Gutsy changed recently
[09:10] <popey> as it will soon be released, so it means the screencasts are "relavent"
[09:10] <popey> yeah, i noticed that today :)
[09:10] <popey> these things will happen
[09:11] <iGadget> it's an improvement, though
[09:11] <popey> on all screencasts that feature gutsy I do try to mention that its based on a development release
[09:11] <popey> And I don't expect gutsy to change _that_ much between now and oct 19th
[09:11] <popey> 18th
[09:11] <popey> a few cosmetic things isn't a major deal
[09:12] <iGadget> maybe it's a bit far off, but should we focus on moving to 8.04 as soon as it's usable, since it'll be an LTS?
[09:12] <popey> heheh
[09:12] <popey> it won't be usable until the end of the year :)
[09:12] <popey> at least
[09:12] <iGadget> okay, too far off then ;)
[09:12] <popey> in my experience the delta between one release and the next is actually pretty small
[09:13] <popey> if you compare dapper and gutsy there's quite a difference, but compare edgy and feisty and the difference is much less
[09:13] <popey> there are changes of course, and we should be aware of them
[09:13] <spd106> It's not like we'll be using KDE 4
[09:13] <popey> but I don't think we should fret about it too much
[09:13] <popey> no, indeed
[09:13] <popey> ok, that's current status
[09:13] <iGadget> what about (I'm brainstorming here)... 'scripting' the screencasts so they can be redone easily in another version?
[09:13] <popey> they are _kinda_ scripted
[09:14] <popey> but not too much
[09:14] <popey> you mean a storyboard type thing?
[09:14] <iGadget> no, I mean an automated kind of thing
[09:14] <popey> oh
[09:14] <iGadget> I don't know if it's possible
[09:14] <popey> me neither
[09:14] <iGadget> would it be worth investigating?
[09:14] <popey> worth a thought, yes
[09:15] <popey> sorry, i was thinking then :)
[09:15] <iGadget> np, I'm a slow reader ;)
[09:15] <popey> will note that and we could have a chat on the list about it
[09:15] <popey> g o o d
[09:15] <popey> any questions/comments about the curent status?
[09:16] <popey> * Month Of Screencasts 2007 progress
[09:16] <popey> 10 of 30 complete, to be 11 of 30 tomorrow
[09:16] <popey> more ideas needed - as mentioned
[09:17] <popey> will mail the list and canvas opinion on the site
[09:17] <popey> blimey, that's it
[09:17] <popey> fastest meeting ever
[09:17] <popey> any further questions, comments or points you guys want to talk about
[09:17] <iGadget> geez... and it's my first :)
[09:17] <popey> we have some time
[09:18] <popey> ok
[09:18] <spd106> Where's the MoS schedule again? I've lost it
[09:19] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MonthOfScreencasts
[09:19] <spd106> Oh yeah
[09:19] <popey> :)
[09:19] <popey> i should be uploading two tomorrow
[09:20] <popey> assuming I get a nice quiet house to work in :S
[09:20] <popey> (which is a big issue here - screaming babies in the background of a screencast don't sound good) :)
[09:20] <popey> Matthew Rossi asked if we could have a meeting that was at a time when he could attend - he is in Aus
[09:21] <popey> so he ideally wanted one on a weekend
[09:21] <iGadget> just a suggestion about meeting on IRC... you guys know mebeam.com?
[09:21] <popey> I didn't, but I do now
[09:22] <popey> thing about irc is that it has a very low barrier to entry
[09:22] <popey> many of the web conferencing systems require flash, a webcam, a mic etc
[09:22] <iGadget> true, if you're a good typist ;)
[09:22] <spd106> Do you need a camera?
[09:22] <popey> looks like it
[09:22] <iGadget> for mebeam.com, you do yes
[09:22] <spd106> That'll be tricky then
[09:23] <popey> it reduces the potential people who could join I guess?
[09:23] <popey> given every other team meets on irc..
[09:23] <iGadget> okay, perhaps that's too much then. But what about audio converencing?
[09:23] <popey> iGadget: interesting point
[09:23] <popey> the Ubuntu-UK loco team are looking at using asterisk
[09:23] <popey> to do call conferencing via SIP or something
[09:24] <iGadget> I figure most people involved in screencasts would have a mic... ;)
[09:24] <popey> needs a mic and a reasonable net connection
[09:24] <popey> heh :)
[09:24] <popey> the problem with all the video/audio conferences is logging though
[09:24] <popey> i can easily copy/paste this log into the wiki, job done
[09:24] <iGadget> true, true
[09:24] <popey> with the audio/video ones someone has to transcribe it
[09:24] <Daviey> SIP: ^ anybody wanna help test?
[09:24] <popey> heh :)
[09:25] <popey> I will test with you another time yes Daviey :)
[09:25] <popey> for those that don't know, Daviey is the expert on Asterisk around here
[09:25] <popey> and voip in general
[09:25] <iGadget> cool
[09:25] <Daviey> 'expert' hmm :P
[09:25] <spd106> What about a SIP screencast Davey?
[09:26] <popey> heh
[09:26] <iGadget> hehe :)
[09:26] <popey> we have that scheduled actually
[09:26] <Daviey> Isn't there already an ekiga screencast?
[09:26] <popey> one all about voip
[09:26] <popey> not one of ours no Daviey
[09:26] <popey> i was thinking something more general, not necessarily just ekiga
[09:26] <iGadget> ekiga would be nice... since it's already shipping with ubuntu
[09:26] <popey> agreed
[09:26] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MonthOfScreencasts
[09:26] <iGadget> (never got it working, though)
[09:26] <popey> ^ look at the bottom of that page :)
[09:26] <iGadget> okay, will do
[09:26] <popey> "ekiga" :)
[09:27] <popey> just needs someone to make it :)
[09:27] <popey> you could subscribe to it :)
[09:27] <Daviey> Well i'm not sure how much you could cover.. Would either need to be reallly high level - or pretty lowlevel (technical and ~20mins)
[09:28] <popey> 30 mins isn't unreasonable
[09:28] <popey> i made a 40 min one today :)
[09:28] <Daviey> eager beaver
[09:28] <popey> anyway, can I just get the next meeting date out of the way
[09:28] <popey> I propose the weekend of the 13th october
[09:28] <popey> to allow the aussies to join in
[09:28] <popey> thats over 2 weeks away
[09:29] <popey> but with our slim agenda I don't think that's an issue?
[09:29] <iGadget> I have one proposal about subtitles, if we're done with the SIP thing :)
[09:29] <popey> go ahead
[09:29] <iGadget> there are a lot of subs now that are on screen for less than 2 secs now
[09:29] <iGadget> thats _really_ fast
[09:30] <iGadget> most people I checked can't read that fast
[09:30] <popey> hmm, I talk too fast?
[09:30] <iGadget> maybe
[09:30] <spd106> yep
[09:30] <iGadget> but what I usually do is merge two subs together
[09:30] <iGadget> in most cases, that's enough
[09:30] <spd106> It's either short time or they take up too much screen space
[09:30] <iGadget> indeed, that does occur
[09:30] <popey> so it would be better if I talk slower, say less?
[09:30] <popey> leave big gaps :)
[09:31] <iGadget> especially in languages that need 'more space' :)
[09:31] <popey> heh
[09:31] <popey> like Deutsch?
[09:31] <Daviey> Did you guys find a solution to multi-audio track?
[09:31] <iGadget> like nederlands ;)
[09:31] <popey> ahhh
[09:31] <iGadget> deutsch probably as well
[09:31] <popey> Daviey: ogg does support multiple audio tracks
[09:31] <popey> but the problem is we would have to keep remastering every time someone made a new audio track
[09:31] <popey> and re-encode
[09:32] <popey> and they would bloat up with multiple languages on board
[09:32] <iGadget> it would be very sweet if we could figure out a way to do that smoothly
[09:32] <popey> likely easier to keep them separate
[09:32] <iGadget> mmmkay... true
[09:32] <popey> ok iGadget and spd106 I will endeavour to speak slower
[09:32] <popey> and leave some pauses for text
[09:32] <popey> sorry about that
[09:32] <iGadget> no prob, we all live and learn ;)
[09:32] <popey> indeed
[09:32] <spd106> The applications screencast was particularly bad
[09:32] <popey> this is exactly why we have these meetings :)
[09:33] <iGadget> precisely :)
[09:33] <popey> because there is a lot in it done very quickly?
[09:33] <spd106> yes, too much really
[09:33] <popey> ok
[09:33] <popey> I will bear that in mind for future screencasts
[09:33] <popey> one problem I worry about is that if I go to slow it might get boring
[09:33] <spd106> It was still very good
[09:33] <popey> people might nod off
[09:34] <popey> it's okay spd106 I can take it ;)
[09:34] <iGadget> Well it's quite easy to see - if you're making english subtitles which are on screen less that 2 seconds, that's suspicious
[09:34] <popey> haha
[09:35] <iGadget> usually that's too fast
[09:35] <popey> like small print on a tv advert
[09:35] <iGadget> ghehe... something like that ;)
[09:35] <popey> "Warning, the value of your house may go down as well as up,..."
[09:35] <popey> ok, point taken, will fix that in future ones
[09:35] <iGadget> * toll free number, only connection charges apply ($10,-)
[09:35] <popey> lucky we're only 1/3rd the way through then :)
[09:35] <popey> :)
[09:36] <spd106> Did you get the flash streaming working?
[09:36] <popey> the subtitles in the flash streaming?
[09:36] <spd106> yes
[09:36] <popey> no, not yet
[09:36] <popey> but I haven't spent much time on that
[09:36] <spd106> ok
[09:36] <popey> will do though
[09:37] <spd106> Don't spend too much on that, it can be sorted out later
[09:37] <popey> sure
[09:37] <popey> I spent too long on it the week before holiday
[09:37] <popey> will concentrate on making the screencasts for now
[09:37] <iGadget> so... what about the long term - how are we going to keep track on screencasts that are no longer acurate and need to be updated?
[09:38] <popey> well iGadget that's a very good point#
[09:38] <popey> the one I made today in effect replaces one I made a year ago
[09:38] <popey> and the installing one supplements the installation one I did a year ago too
[09:38] <spd106> deja vu
[09:38] <popey> I guess I could put a note on the old ones "obsolete - please see this screencast" with a link to the newer ones
[09:38] <iGadget> perhaps it would be a good idea to mention which ubuntu versions are affected by the screencast?
[09:38] <popey> the ones this year are more comprehensive though
[09:39] <iGadget> in the screencast itself?
[09:39] <popey> i try to tag them on the site
[09:39] <popey> http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/taxonomy/term/43 <- only gutsy ones
[09:39] <spd106> Tag them with Ubuntu release or just the date?
[09:39] <iGadget> maybe both :)
[09:39] <popey> http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/taxonomy/term/35 only dapper
[09:39] <iGadget> there might be screencasts which can last for ages
[09:40] <iGadget> like the one about free software
[09:40] <popey> yeah
[09:40] <iGadget> other ones can become obsolete in the next version, there's no way to be sure in advance I guess
[09:40] <popey> indeed
[09:40] <spd106> New ones every six months
[09:40] <popey> although to be fair the ones about dapper are still accurate
[09:40] <popey> dapper is a current supported release
[09:41] <popey> there is a wider plan here
[09:41] <popey> don't know if I explained previously did I?
[09:41] <popey> to put screencasts directly in ubuntu
[09:41] <spd106> On the DVD?
[09:41] <popey> not sure yet, probably online, streamed
[09:41] <popey> so you can go to Help --> Videos   in any app
[09:42] <iGadget> sweet!
[09:42] <popey> and get a window come up with a selection of videos
[09:42] <popey> that would need some major management
[09:42] <iGadget> that would surely beat the crap out of MS online support
[09:42] <popey> and all the stuff we are learning about during MoS can feed into this
[09:42] <popey> so the feedback I get from you guys is great
[09:42] <popey> it's still an early plan
[09:43] <iGadget> but... that will require massive amounts of work
[09:43] <popey> yup :)
[09:43] <iGadget> do we have enough manpower to do this?
[09:43] <popey> they would be short videos
[09:43] <popey> seconds or minutes long
[09:43] <spd106> It's more online integration too
[09:43] <popey> showing how to do specific tasks
[09:43] <popey> yeah, needs a lot of work
[09:43] <iGadget> which... can be combined to create entire screencasts?
[09:43] <popey> yeah, watch them all back to back
[09:43] <popey> :)
[09:44] <iGadget> a 'lego' sort of screencast-building? nice :)
[09:44] <popey> yeah, I like the building blocks analogy
[09:44] <popey> they could be tagged and rated
[09:44] <spd106> Going back to the scripting thought... would festival be any use?
[09:44] <popey> festival the text to speech thing?
[09:44] <spd106> yeah
[09:44] <popey> useful for?
[09:45] <spd106> automating screencast
[09:45] <popey> I don't know. how do you mean?
[09:45] <iGadget> my idea about scripting was about the visual part only, but if festival is good?
[09:45] <iGadget> I haven't played with it yet
[09:45] <spd106> It cuts the work down a little
[09:46] <iGadget> yes, but if it cuts down the quality too much, I'm not sure if it's an improvement...
[09:46] <iGadget> the audiotrack is key to getting the user involved IMHO
[09:46] <popey> you mean, get festival to "read" the script?
[09:46] <spd106> Yes
[09:46] <popey> ahhh
[09:46] <popey> is festival any good? :)
[09:47] <popey> i haven't tried it for some time
[09:47] <spd106> No idea, just read about it recently
[09:47] <popey> to be honest the audio part is not that time consuming
[09:47] <iGadget> do you know radiohead's 'OK computer'? ;)
[09:47] <popey> its prep, recording the video and editing it that takes the time
[09:47] <popey> the audio takes about as long as the video is in length
[09:47] <popey> if I make a 40 min video the audio takes 40 mins to make (roughly)
[09:48] <popey> but it takes 2+hours to make a 30 min video
[09:48] <iGadget> so I guess we'd gain much more time in getting the video part smoothed out.. right?
[09:49] <popey> yeah, and that's not easy
[09:49] <popey> some of it is planning - figuring out what I am going to video..
[09:49] <iGadget> besides of automated scripting making re-recording a lot easier, could it help save time in the initial recording process?
[09:49] <popey> some of it is videoing
[09:50] <popey> i doubt it would help much to be honest
[09:50] <popey> one day I will create the "how to make a screencast, screencast" that people keep asking me for
[09:50] <spd106> You could then run a competition for the final screencast
[09:50] <iGadget> well, if you really want users to assist you, I suppose that one has a  top priority...
[09:51] <popey> iGadget: i have written it up on the wiki :)
[09:51] <popey> I am not sure this is the thing that stops people
[09:51] <popey> people know how to create them
[09:51] <iGadget> eh...
[09:51] <popey> I am not sure that "knowing how to create a screencast" is what stops people making them
[09:51] <popey> they know how to make them, but they don't have the time to do it?
[09:51] <iGadget> I don't, but I'm just plain lazy besides having way to little time, so nevermind me ;)
[09:51] <popey> it's quicker/easier to make a wiki page then a screencast
[09:52] <popey> exactly :)
[09:52] <popey> nothing wrong with that, that's just the problem we have
[09:52] <popey> people don't have time to commit to something like this
[09:52] <spd106> Would you accept lower res screencasts?
[09:52] <spd106> 1024x768 is all I have
[09:52] <popey> which I why I am glad that I can get on and make them and you guys can transcribe/translate them
[09:52] <iGadget> I thought 1024x768 was okay?
[09:52] <popey> for non-mos2007, yes, definately
[09:53] <popey> we already have some at 1024x768
[09:53] <iGadget> eh... what's mos2007?
[09:53] <popey> Month Of Screencast 2007
[09:53] <popey> :)
[09:53] <iGadget> darn... stupid :)
[09:53] <iGadget> sorry
[09:53] <popey> i.e. if it's "just" a screencast, not specifically for MoS, then yes, 1024x768 is great
[09:53] <popey> np
[09:53] <popey> silly acronym
[09:54] <popey> the only reason is that I specifically wanted 30 high quality, high res ones
[09:54] <spd106> That's what I thought
[09:54] <popey> if you see the front page of the site there are 3 that are 1024x768 :)
[09:54] <popey> what's important is consistent quality
[09:55] <iGadget> but... If we are going to start with this building-block thing, then we should agree on one res only, right?
[09:55] <popey> oh that's not coming for a while :)
[09:55] <popey> i wouldn't start thinking too seriously about that until about November :)
[09:55] <popey> (after UDS Boston) :)
[09:55] <iGadget> okay... so what about smoothing the creation process, would that be doable?
[09:56] <iGadget> working with the istanbul team for example?
[09:56] <iGadget> I mean, making the creating process much simpler and less time consuming?
[09:56] <popey> yeah, I had a meeting with jono about this.. he had some ideas about this subject
[09:56] <popey> he suggested a screencasting application
[09:57] <iGadget> ghehe... his  Next Big Thing after Jokosher? :D
[09:57] <popey> one that gave you a window inside which you have a nested session or something
[09:57] <popey> heh
[09:57] <popey> and recorded it
[09:57] <jono> iGadget: oi! :)
[09:57] <popey> there are already tools that can do this but they are non free
[09:57] <iGadget> jono! :D
[09:57] <popey> and anyway I don't think this would shave massive amounts off the time
[09:57] <popey> it would make it easier, thats for sure
[09:58] <iGadget> one sec, brb
[09:58] <popey> we're running out of time
[09:58] <popey> I will bring all these things up on the list for further discussion
[09:58] <popey> so we can get the ideas fleshed out
[09:58] <spd106> Have we agreed on the next meeting time?
[09:59] <iGadget> okay... I for one would surely love to contribute more, but the current process is just way to much work for me, sorry :(
[10:00] <iGadget> and with contribute I mean creating screencasts, redubbing them etc.
[10:01] <iGadget> loads of time :)
[10:01] <popey> spd106: I will figure out a time and mail the list
[10:02] <popey> need to find out what time Aus is awake :)
[10:02] <popey> heh, thats what I did iGadget :)
[10:02] <iGadget> geez... so who's paying your bills now? :)
[10:02] <iGadget> canonical? :D
[10:02] <popey> heh
[10:03] <popey> I am on "holiday"
[10:03] <popey> spending time at home with the family, and when they stop bothering me, I make screencasts :)
[10:03] <iGadget> gheheh
[10:03] <iGadget> I know the feeling
[10:03] <popey> ok, so I will paste a summary of this to the wiki
[10:03] <popey> :)
[10:03] <popey> and mail the list with the subjects we have talked about
[10:04] <iGadget> great
[10:04] <popey> and update the site with a status update
[10:04] <popey> thanks for the input guys, much appreciated
[10:04] <iGadget> np, thanks for listening ;)
[10:04] <popey> next meeting likely to be oct 13th/14th
[10:04] <spd106> ok
[10:04] <iGadget> that's a weekend, good choice
[10:05] <popey> oh, good :)
[10:05] <popey> you might not say that when you see the time ;)
[10:05] <popey> 4am!
[10:05] <popey> (just kidding)
[10:05] <iGadget> ;)
[10:05] <popey> right, cheers chaps, wifey calls :)
[10:05] <iGadget> allright, cheers!
[10:06] <spd106> Thanks
[10:07] <iGadget> bedtime... bye all
[10:07] <popey> nn
[10:22] <Zero_> Hello
[10:28] <Zero_> where is the meeting ?
[10:30] <popey> @schedule
[10:30] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 25 Sep 15:00: Server Team meeting | 25 Sep 16:00: Kernel Team | 25 Sep 19:00: Technical Board | 26 Sep 20:00: Edubuntu | 27 Sep 12:00: Desktop Team Development | 27 Sep 15:00: Community Council meeting
[10:30] <popey> what meeting Zero_ ?
[10:31] <Zero_> ops
[10:31] <Zero_> it's over ^^
[10:31] <Zero_> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1098
[10:31] <popey> yeah, we just had it
[10:31] <popey> the logs are online https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting20070924
[10:32] <Zero_> tkz :)