[09:07] <dholbach> good morning
[02:42] <bwakkie> hi
[02:42] <bwakkie> Anyone tries a qtec 9090?
[02:42] <bwakkie> *tried
[02:49] <Mithrandir> I haven't heard of anybody doing so, no
[02:52] <bwakkie> is there a special pda version of ubuntu?
[04:41] <asac> HappyCamp: hi ... i just did a build of your mobile-applets package from git
[04:41] <asac> HappyCamp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/405/ those lintian warning/errors should be easy to fix ... so we probably want them before upload
[04:43] <asac> HappyCamp: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/406/
[05:37] <HappyCamp> asac, thanks.  I will check that out.
[06:58] <HappyCamp> Mithrandir, or anyone else.  Are there mirror sites of http://ports.ubuntu.com/ ?
[06:58] <HappyCamp> I'm currently rsyncing from ports.ubuntu.com, but it is very slow :(  About 55 KB/sec
[06:59] <Mithrandir> I don't think there are any mirrors.
[06:59] <HappyCamp> I was afraid of that.  Thanks for the info.
[07:21] <ian_brasil> i am getting a broken package  on libhildondesktop-dev ..if this is not already known about i will submit a bug
[07:23] <mjg59> agoliveira: Dates now works, just need to tidy up the UI a little
[07:25] <mjg59> Uh. Not dates. Contacts.
[07:25] <mjg59> Search box and everything :)
[07:26] <agoliveira> mjg59: Funny thing is that you wrote Dates but I understood it anyway :)
[07:27] <mjg59> It's not likely to be upstreamable in its current form - needs some reworking for that
[07:32] <HappyCamp> Praj, why did you change bug 88 to "New"?
[07:33] <agoliveira> mjg59: I'll take whatever you get for now :)
[07:33] <mjg59> agoliveira: I'll get the UI tidied, then upload it
[07:37] <HappyCamp> Mithrandir, agoliveira Is there a reason that LPIA only seems to be for "gutsy" and not "gutsy-security" "gutsy-updates", etc...
[07:40] <agoliveira> HappyCamp: I'm not sure if I understood your question but maybe it's because there's no updates for lpia yet?
[07:40] <HappyCamp> agoliveira, I just noticed this for example: http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/gutsy-security/main/
[07:40] <HappyCamp> as opposed to http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/gutsy/main/
[07:41] <HappyCamp> So I was worried that maybe they did a one-time build of lpia, but haven't been doing updates.  That was my only concern.
[07:47] <Mithrandir> HappyCamp: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/ seems to list gutsy-{backports,proposed,security,updates} just fine?
[07:48] <agoliveira> HappyCamp: Sorry, I woudn't be able to answer that.
[07:48] <Mithrandir> oh, you're asking about why there's no binary-lpia bit there?
[07:48] <Mithrandir> unsure, but yes, we'll be having security support for lpia just fine.
[07:48] <Mithrandir> cprov: maybe you could answer us as to why there's no binary-lpia directory in gutsy-security?
[07:49] <HappyCamp> Mithrandir, correct but when you go into: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/gutsy-security/main/ you don't see any LPIA
[07:49] <HappyCamp> I was just wondering if this is correct or not.  
[07:50] <cprov>  Mithrandir: well, I don't think we have changed gutsy-security dists-dir after lpia got created.
[07:51] <HappyCamp> Though I do notice that they are pretty much empty for the other archs, so I guess is is no real concern.
[07:51] <Mithrandir> cprov: ok, so it'll be created once we have a security upload for lpia?
[07:51] <cprov> Mithrandir: `publish-distro -s gutsy-security` would fix it
[07:51] <cprov> Mithrandir: yes, it will
[07:52] <Mithrandir> cprov: and running publish-distro won't have any bad side effects?
[07:52] <cprov> Mithrandir: if gutsy is frozen, uploads will get accepted (fix landed in 1.1.8)
[07:53] <cprov> Mithrandir: it will trigger the mirrors, since it will change archive tree, AFAIK
[07:54] <cprov> Mithrandir: ohh, not really because lpia is stripped (ignored) by the mirroring script, right ?
[07:54] <Mithrandir> cprov: no, it's just on ports.
[07:55] <mdz> Mithrandir: did last week's unionfs fix clear up the issues with the mobile build?
[07:55] <cprov> Mithrandir: yes, that's what I meant ... lpia is not present in a.u.c
[07:56] <Mithrandir> mdz: yes, the autobuilt dailies now work (except the crown beach system doesn't seem to like my monitor, but I'll fix that soon enough)
[07:56] <mdz> Mithrandir: ok, I'll tell Charlie as much
[08:02] <Mithrandir> thanks
[08:02] <amitk> mdz, Mithrandir: the build might be ok, but we still see occassional oops
[08:03] <mdz> amitk: indeed, there are still problems; I'm told Ben is working on them
[08:03] <cprov> Mithrandir: I've just generated http://archive.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/, please, check if it looks sane.
[08:03] <amitk> mdz, Mithrandir: there is still a race condition, but rebooting fixes it most of the time. So it is 2/10 boots have oops
[08:05] <Mithrandir> cprov: it seems fine to me.
[08:06] <cprov> Mithrandir: you can generate it in drescher by `LPCONFIG=ftpmaster publish-distro.py -s gutsy-security -A -vv` as lp_publish.
[08:07] <Mithrandir> cprov: I'll do that when I'm at work tomorrow then.  Thanks.
[08:08] <amitk> Mithrandir: do you have resolution problem with the crownbeach? My machine is going through a KVM and it is not happy until I hit the Autoset on the LCD.
[08:08] <cprov> Mithrandir: k
[08:08] <Mithrandir> amitk: yes, but I've had problems with the LCD and non-native resolutions before, so it might be the display.
[08:08] <Mithrandir> amitk: I'm considering just bringing one of the LCDs I have at home.
[09:33] <Charliefjohnson> Mithrandir: Did the unionfs fix make it into today's 20070924 menlow full build ??  We don't see any different behavior.
[09:34] <Mithrandir> Charliefjohnson: it works for me.
[09:35] <Mithrandir> Charliefjohnson: amitk reported that he saw some unionfs oopses, but much less often, so try rebooting once.
[09:35] <smagoun> Charliefjohnson: there's a unionfs fix in the tree right now, but it only works part of the time on our crown beach
[09:36] <Charliefjohnson>  Mithrandir : Our test guy tried the 20070924 build on a Crown Beach and it hung on install like it has in the past.
[09:37] <Mithrandir> Charliefjohnson: well, both Amit and I see it fixed here, and apparently so does Steve, so I suspect it's a problem on your end.
[09:37] <Mithrandir> but then, did the person try just once, or multiple times?
[09:39] <Charliefjohnson> Mithrandir: I'll ask.
[10:37] <amitk> Charliefjohnson: The problem is partially fixed. So the oopses happen less often now. The remaining cases are under investigation
[10:39] <Charliefjohnson> amitk: Is this an upstream problem that you're working around or something unique to Unbuntu Gutsy?
[10:40] <amitk> Charliefjohnson: upstream. The version upstream is broken.
[10:40] <Charliefjohnson> amitk: I assume this impacts more than just UME ?  (Normal desktop & server versions of Gutsy.)
[10:41] <amitk> Charliefjohnson: That is correct. All live cds are impacted as well. So it is a very high priority.
[10:42] <Charliefjohnson> amitk: What's the Launchpad bug Number?
[10:44] <Charliefjohnson> amitk: So you can't just roll back to the previous non-broken version until the upstream is fixed?
[10:45] <amitk> Charliefjohnson: unfortunately not. Because the new version is required by apparmour security SW.
[10:46] <amitk> Charliefjohnson: bug #137765, bug #138915, bug #144469