=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mobile.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Topic for #ubuntu-mobile: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ === Topic (#ubuntu-mobile): set by mdz at Thu Aug 16 15:19:37 2007 === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sodarock [n=chatzill@gateway.sodarock.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sodarock is now known as sodarock_home === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === alek [i=alek@nat/intel/x-9bff1b9187f5c353] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Praj [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-ab5aef56d16c831e] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === JayC [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-b148d02ecbff9f7e] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage_afk [i=sabotage@nat/intel/x-ee14cc064c9974e3] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === DannyZzz [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-c14b7d24ac03cad6] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F74067.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [09:07] good morning === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-121-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === guardian [n=guardian@mar44-1-87-90-32-28.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F74831.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === BlueT_Malaysia [n=matthew@blog.psinfo.com.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === guardian [n=guardian@mar44-1-87-90-32-28.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === lmoura [n=lmoura@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sodarock [n=chatzill@gateway.sodarock.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sodarock is now known as sodarock_home === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.191.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54956F6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ian_brasil [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-afeed5f469bfe4b9] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === vivijim [n=vivijim@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bwakkie [n=bwakkie@213.219.170.193.adsl.static.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [02:42] hi [02:42] Anyone tries a qtec 9090? [02:42] *tried === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [02:49] I haven't heard of anybody doing so, no === etrunko [n=edulima@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [02:52] is there a special pda version of ubuntu? === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.191.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveir1 [n=adilson@201.47.58.80.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bwakkie [n=bwakkie@213.219.170.193.adsl.static.edpnet.net] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === kyleN [n=kyle@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Lure_ [n=lure@212.103.157.87] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === craigoz [n=craigo@cust1608.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@gozur.sunflowerbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === benj3one [n=ben@adsl-75-41-185-190.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === luka74 [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === amitk [n=amit@a91-154-119-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Sciri [n=sean@fw.pepper.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Mobile === javamaniac [n=gerardo@pwnd.gerardo.com.ve] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage_afk is now known as sabotage === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-a2d545810cbb5e87] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [04:41] HappyCamp: hi ... i just did a build of your mobile-applets package from git [04:41] HappyCamp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/405/ those lintian warning/errors should be easy to fix ... so we probably want them before upload === tmarble [i=tmarble@nat/sun/x-7d33ca26a4202c85] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [04:43] HappyCamp: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/406/ === Lure [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sodarock_home [n=chatzill@gateway.sodarock.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === andrunko [n=andrunko@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p54956A29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === JayC [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-207d0c1d127e9bd6] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-eaf1f6dcba9f1b34] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === mdz [n=mdz@adsl-75-22-180-232.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === wasikevin [n=kevintw@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [05:37] asac, thanks. I will check that out. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-eaf1f6dcba9f1b34] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === ian_brasil [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === benj3one [n=ben@adsl-75-41-185-190.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-e58436548dbcbbe7] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5402BA1B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === gary_l [n=Gary@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:58] Mithrandir, or anyone else. Are there mirror sites of http://ports.ubuntu.com/ ? [06:58] I'm currently rsyncing from ports.ubuntu.com, but it is very slow :( About 55 KB/sec === HappyCamp is worried that it will take days to mirror the lpia stuff. [06:59] I don't think there are any mirrors. [06:59] I was afraid of that. Thanks for the info. [07:21] i am getting a broken package on libhildondesktop-dev ..if this is not already known about i will submit a bug [07:23] agoliveira: Dates now works, just need to tidy up the UI a little === agoliveira hugs mjg59 several times :) [07:25] Uh. Not dates. Contacts. [07:25] Search box and everything :) [07:26] mjg59: Funny thing is that you wrote Dates but I understood it anyway :) [07:27] It's not likely to be upstreamable in its current form - needs some reworking for that [07:32] Praj, why did you change bug 88 to "New"? [07:33] mjg59: I'll take whatever you get for now :) [07:33] agoliveira: I'll get the UI tidied, then upload it [07:37] Mithrandir, agoliveira Is there a reason that LPIA only seems to be for "gutsy" and not "gutsy-security" "gutsy-updates", etc... [07:40] HappyCamp: I'm not sure if I understood your question but maybe it's because there's no updates for lpia yet? [07:40] agoliveira, I just noticed this for example: http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/gutsy-security/main/ [07:40] as opposed to http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/gutsy/main/ [07:41] So I was worried that maybe they did a one-time build of lpia, but haven't been doing updates. That was my only concern. [07:47] HappyCamp: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/ seems to list gutsy-{backports,proposed,security,updates} just fine? [07:48] HappyCamp: Sorry, I woudn't be able to answer that. [07:48] oh, you're asking about why there's no binary-lpia bit there? [07:48] unsure, but yes, we'll be having security support for lpia just fine. [07:48] cprov: maybe you could answer us as to why there's no binary-lpia directory in gutsy-security? [07:49] Mithrandir, correct but when you go into: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/gutsy-security/main/ you don't see any LPIA [07:49] I was just wondering if this is correct or not. === Charliefjohnson [i=cfj@nat/intel/x-888fe15c1c0883b8] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [07:50] Mithrandir: well, I don't think we have changed gutsy-security dists-dir after lpia got created. [07:51] Though I do notice that they are pretty much empty for the other archs, so I guess is is no real concern. [07:51] cprov: ok, so it'll be created once we have a security upload for lpia? [07:51] Mithrandir: `publish-distro -s gutsy-security` would fix it [07:51] Mithrandir: yes, it will === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-9065dc84de6d2936] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [07:52] cprov: and running publish-distro won't have any bad side effects? [07:52] Mithrandir: if gutsy is frozen, uploads will get accepted (fix landed in 1.1.8) [07:53] Mithrandir: it will trigger the mirrors, since it will change archive tree, AFAIK [07:54] Mithrandir: ohh, not really because lpia is stripped (ignored) by the mirroring script, right ? [07:54] cprov: no, it's just on ports. [07:55] Mithrandir: did last week's unionfs fix clear up the issues with the mobile build? [07:55] Mithrandir: yes, that's what I meant ... lpia is not present in a.u.c [07:56] mdz: yes, the autobuilt dailies now work (except the crown beach system doesn't seem to like my monitor, but I'll fix that soon enough) [07:56] Mithrandir: ok, I'll tell Charlie as much [08:02] thanks [08:02] mdz, Mithrandir: the build might be ok, but we still see occassional oops [08:03] amitk: indeed, there are still problems; I'm told Ben is working on them [08:03] Mithrandir: I've just generated http://archive.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/, please, check if it looks sane. [08:03] mdz, Mithrandir: there is still a race condition, but rebooting fixes it most of the time. So it is 2/10 boots have oops [08:05] cprov: it seems fine to me. [08:06] Mithrandir: you can generate it in drescher by `LPCONFIG=ftpmaster publish-distro.py -s gutsy-security -A -vv` as lp_publish. [08:07] cprov: I'll do that when I'm at work tomorrow then. Thanks. [08:08] Mithrandir: do you have resolution problem with the crownbeach? My machine is going through a KVM and it is not happy until I hit the Autoset on the LCD. [08:08] Mithrandir: k [08:08] amitk: yes, but I've had problems with the LCD and non-native resolutions before, so it might be the display. [08:08] amitk: I'm considering just bringing one of the LCDs I have at home. === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ian_brasil [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === dantalizing [n=dan@n128-227-189-217.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === dantalizing [n=dan@n128-227-189-217.xlate.ufl.edu] has left #ubuntu-mobile ["Ex-Chat"] === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === JayC [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-e5d1e8ba34322f80] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Namer_Katan [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-8ad5582877853e6b] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ToddBrandt [n=tebrandt@pool-71-117-215-168.ptldor.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveir1 [n=adilson@201.47.49.183.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [09:33] Mithrandir: Did the unionfs fix make it into today's 20070924 menlow full build ?? We don't see any different behavior. [09:34] Charliefjohnson: it works for me. [09:35] Charliefjohnson: amitk reported that he saw some unionfs oopses, but much less often, so try rebooting once. [09:35] Charliefjohnson: there's a unionfs fix in the tree right now, but it only works part of the time on our crown beach [09:36] Mithrandir : Our test guy tried the 20070924 build on a Crown Beach and it hung on install like it has in the past. [09:37] Charliefjohnson: well, both Amit and I see it fixed here, and apparently so does Steve, so I suspect it's a problem on your end. [09:37] but then, did the person try just once, or multiple times? [09:39] Mithrandir: I'll ask. === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Charliejohnson_ [i=cfj@nat/intel/x-267f1cbbcb5d03e6] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [10:37] Charliefjohnson: The problem is partially fixed. So the oopses happen less often now. The remaining cases are under investigation [10:39] amitk: Is this an upstream problem that you're working around or something unique to Unbuntu Gutsy? [10:40] Charliefjohnson: upstream. The version upstream is broken. === mdz [n=mdz@c-71-198-147-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [10:40] amitk: I assume this impacts more than just UME ? (Normal desktop & server versions of Gutsy.) [10:41] Charliefjohnson: That is correct. All live cds are impacted as well. So it is a very high priority. [10:42] amitk: What's the Launchpad bug Number? [10:44] amitk: So you can't just roll back to the previous non-broken version until the upstream is fixed? [10:45] Charliefjohnson: unfortunately not. Because the new version is required by apparmour security SW. [10:46] Charliefjohnson: bug #137765, bug #138915, bug #144469 === Charliefjohnson [i=cfj@nat/intel/x-035d7ad5a4091fa0] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === lucasr [n=lucasr@cs164220.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === renatofilho__ [n=renato@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Charliefjohnson [i=cfj@nat/intel/x-9159e7074a8aa0ef] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Sciri [n=sean@c-75-68-126-204.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu-Mobile === vivijim [n=vivijim@200.184.118.132] has left #ubuntu-mobile []