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=== Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by asac at Tue Aug 21 12:22:59 2007
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gnomefreaki hate the internet10:48
gnomefreakif my nick leaves here that means internet died (took me ~3 hours to get connected10:49
gnomefreakasac: any reason you closed bug 72415?11:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72415 in firefox "cacert.org root certificate inclusion" [Low,Won't fix]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7241511:00
asacgnomefreak: yes ... its won't fix :)11:00
gnomefreakdue to upstream?11:01
asacgnomefreak: its unlikely that upstream will include cacert11:01
asacyes11:01
gnomefreakah ok11:01
asacdo they complain?11:01
gnomefreakno i was just asking11:01
asacapparently not11:01
asacok11:01
gnomefreaki didnt know the bug but debian task is still open11:01
gnomefreakmade me wonder11:02
asacgnomefreak: well ... w don't care for debian anymore in regards to firefix11:02
asacok invalidated debian upstream target on that11:02
gnomefreakyeah i know ty i had page open i could have done it ;)11:03
asacgnomefreak: we could invalidate all debian targets ... if we can find them :)11:03
=== gnomefreak wondering why i havent seen an email on a bug i reported
asacmaybe we should write a python script for that11:03
gnomefreakasac: i didnt see wny yesterday while working on bugs11:04
gnomefreaks/wny/any11:04
asachmm11:04
gnomefreakwhats the difference between firefox and java compared to any other browser and java?11:04
asacif you ask for any other browser then not much11:05
gnomefreakthat pissed me off something awfull last night11:05
asaci think only konqueror runs it differently ... e.g. in a separate process11:05
gnomefreaksite works with konq+java iceape+java epiphany+java and kazehakase+java but doesnt work with firefox+java disable java in firefox the site works11:06
asachmm11:07
asacstrange11:07
asacshouldn't be much differen than iceape/epiphany/kazehakase11:07
gnomefreaki cant get a backtrace because the site wont open while using gdb and wont freeze, outside of gdb it freezes11:07
gnomefreakfirefox freezes during opening the page but i can still bring up term. duering gdb, open site as normal user and your system freezes11:08
gnomefreakbug 13459211:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134592 in sun-java6 "infinite 100% load one one page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13459211:09
gnomefreakthats the one11:09
asacgnomefreak: can you please start strace -f firefox &> /tmp/strace.log11:09
asacor to your $HOME11:09
gnomefreakyes11:09
asacand then take a look whats going on when it loops with 100%11:09
gnomefreaklets see if i freeze up :(11:09
gnomefreakusing strace it opens fine11:11
gnomefreakmy fault11:11
gnomefreaki  had java off11:12
gnomefreakshould anything print in terminal?11:12
asacno11:13
asaconly in log11:13
gnomefreakso i can kill it11:13
asacif its frozen yes11:13
gnomefreakcool11:13
asacso what does strace.log show?11:14
asaccan you brin gup somewhere?11:14
gnomefreakill attach it to bug (its huge)11:14
gnomefreakgoing for a smoke while this beast uploads its around 66mb11:19
asacgnomefreak: you could have cut off megabytes of redundant content i gues11:23
gnomefreaki could have used split command too :(11:24
gnomefreaki was thinking about that while smoking11:24
gnomefreaknot real worried at this rate LP will time out im sure11:24
asacgnomefreak: abort upload then :)11:25
gnomefreaklooking at it it all looks important11:26
gnomefreakis there a way to check how many lines are in it without opening itwith an editor?11:33
asacgnomefreak: cat /tmp/strace.log | wc -l11:34
Bernardogood morning11:46
asacBernardo: hey11:47
asacBernardo: did you test the new wpasupplicant? if so, please drop a note at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55648811:48
gnomefreakim uploading them in about 3mb files maybe 7 of them or so, sometime in the next 30 minutes- 1 hour i have to try to eat something, going back to solid foods if possible ;)12:02
asacok12:07
gnomefreakasac: bug 144396 is that even possible at this point in devel?12:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144396 in gnash "update gnash to 0.8.1 final" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14439612:23
gnomefreaki guess someone took it so maybe it is12:24
gnomefreakasac: nevermind you took it so i guess it is possible12:26
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asacgnomefreak: got an ACK12:27
gnomefreakasac: ok all is finally uploaded to bug 13459212:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134592 in sun-java6 "infinite 100% load one one page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13459212:27
asacthanks12:27
gnomefreakgod i hope that helps12:27
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asachaha epiphany is killed by that12:28
asaci will take a look later then12:28
gnomefreakepiphany didnt give me a problem on gutsy12:28
gnomefreakok gone for now12:28
gnomefreakasac: you at lunch?01:47
gnomefreakhmmmm bugs dont show tags anymore?01:48
asacno01:54
asaci will go soon though :)01:54
asachaven't found time to look01:54
asacis that beta critical?01:54
gnomefreakwhere would i find ff-LP-intergration at to see if it is installed?01:55
gnomefreaki found the tags btw they were moved01:55
gnomefreaki looked in about:plugins and ~/mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat01:56
gnomefreaklooking in extension.rdf atm01:57
asacnm bugs down to 23901:58
asacfrom 320 last week01:58
asacgiven that janitor closed 20 or so ... its still 60 bugs fixed by me :)01:58
gnomefreak:)01:59
gnomefreakok maybe this bug is right :(01:59
asaci think another 80 or so should be fixe now :)01:59
asacgnomefreak: are you subscribed to nm bugs?02:00
gnomefreaknot sure i can be if needed02:00
asachmm no idea about future ... would have been handy because i want to reopen all bugs janitor closed automatically02:00
gnomefreakhmmmm gnome-intergration and LP plugin neither are showing up anywhere02:00
gnomefreakasac: k02:01
asachowever i have a bugmail backlog of about 2000 mails02:01
asacso its hard for me to find02:01
gnomefreakasac: you will have more02:01
gnomefreakim working on bugs trying to find some to fix while im at it.02:01
asaccurrently i am paralized and only use web interface ... sorting by recently changed ;)02:01
asacgnomefreak: 2000 mails unrelated to mozillateam :)02:01
asacmozillateam are 500 i guess02:01
gnomefreakah02:01
asaci should opt-out of all these bittorrent bugs02:02
asacthey are just garbage for me :)02:02
=== gnomefreak gets enough email daily but nm shouldnt add a whole lot
gnomefreakwe still ship firefox-gnome-support and firefox-launchpad-plugin right?02:03
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asacfirefox-gnome-support ... yes ... firefox-launchpad-plugin maybe ... but not supported02:04
asacgnomefreak: -gnome-support should be fixed by now02:04
gnomefreakasac: i dont see it listed anywhere02:04
gnomefreakwe dont support the lp-plugin?02:04
asacapt-cache show firefox-gnome-support02:04
asacgnomefreak: no we don't ... its useless imo02:04
asacwe should come up with a proper launchpad extension at some point.02:05
gnomefreakwell thats good because its not listed anywhere after installing it02:05
gnomefreakwhat do i tell the bug submitter?02:05
asacabout what?02:05
asacgnomefreak: just assign the bug to the maintainer of firefox-launchpad-plugin02:06
asacthat was never our package from what i can tell02:06
gnomefreakoh ok i was thinking it was built in firefox for some reason02:06
asacno02:07
asacits not from firefox source02:07
asacit has its own source02:07
gnomefreaki saw that now02:07
gnomefreakthats one less bug to worry about :)02:08
asac-gnome-support is our package02:08
gnomefreaki only have ~50 to go through for now02:08
asacand if build from ffox sources02:08
asacgnomefreak: but you are subscribed to tbird, right=02:10
gnomefreakyes02:10
asacgnomefreak: can you reopen the bugs that have been closed by janitor?02:10
asacor did you already mark them as read?02:10
gnomefreakasac: i dont have a log of them02:11
gnomefreakunless added to email from a few hours ago02:11
asacso there weren't any auto rejects?02:11
gnomefreaki didnt see any just firefox02:11
asacok02:11
asacdid you reopen them?02:11
gnomefreaki will check my subscription in a few minutes02:12
asacor do i need to do that?02:12
gnomefreakno i got rid of them before i found the bug02:12
gnomefreakasac: you have a list send it to me02:12
gnomefreakasac: i so want to close bug 6766702:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 67667 in firefox "I can't use my own application to manage syndication" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6766702:12
asaci will ... once i feel enough power to open that mailbox again :)02:12
gnomefreak:)02:12
gnomefreakif i see any today ill open them02:12
asacthanks02:13
asacassign them to mozilla-bugs02:13
gnomefreakwe dont support users scripts right?02:13
asacthat should prevent them from being closed again02:13
gnomefreakdid you talk to LP about opt in ir opt out of the janitor bugs script?02:13
gnomefreaks/ir/or02:13
asaci filed a bug ;)02:14
gnomefreakthats rigth02:14
gnomefreaki really think this is a case of firefox doesnt like the script you gave it nothing we can do about it02:14
gnomefreakbrb smoke let me know if we should leave that bug open for any reason02:15
gnomefreakTBH i dont see anything related to firefox thats says write your scripts we will support them02:21
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asacgnomefreak: well its not a firefox, but a greasemonkey issue02:32
gnomefreakk02:33
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gnomefreakasac: ok im subscribed to n-m and tbird personally now03:19
asacgnomefreak: thanks03:19
gnomefreakn-p03:19
gnomefreaknp03:19
gnomefreakbtw i hate frigging bugs :(03:19
gnomefreakomg 10 minutes and all the ones i got rid off new they were replaced with more03:20
gnomefreakstill 7 ahead :)03:20
gnomefreakasac: is this default upstream ffox? CAIRO_FORMAT_ARGB32 or is this something we added03:24
asacwere is that set?03:27
gnomefreakdoesnt say03:27
gnomefreakbug 13524103:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135241 in firefox "[gutsy]  some animations are really *slow*" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13524103:27
gnomefreakasac: it was fixed in other gtk apps but evince is free so it doesnt have restrictions on it03:28
gnomefreakand i thougth cario was shipped with ff and should stay the way they ship it but you know more on that than i do03:28
asacwell in a perfect world we should be able to use system-cairo03:43
asacwe do this for ffox 2.003:43
asacthe reason this isn't done for 3.0 is that they patched it ... so our cairo crashes03:43
asacnow they updated to 1.5 ... which is the end of hope to get it usable in gutsy03:44
gnomefreakyou want to explain that to the bug?03:45
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Ubulettelo03:48
gnomefreakhigh03:48
asacgnomefreak: you could go through all network-manager NEW bugs and ask them if they still can reproduce the issue with gutsy beta (livecd) .... if they still they should attach: 1. lspci -v 2. /var/log/syslog ... and set to incomplete :)03:59
gnomefreakasac: has n-m been accepted into beta and pushed yet?04:00
asacnm is in ... open thing is if new/old wpasupplicant is allowed to be in04:01
Ubuletteasac, did you read my prose from yesterday ? (xul and *.links)04:01
asacUbulette: i read that you finished 3.0 :=04:01
asacwhich is amazing04:01
asacbut i think we should use:04:01
asac+        --with-libxul-sdk=$(lastword $(DEBIAN_XUL_DEV)) \04:02
UbuletteI have once again a problem with libnssckbi.so04:02
Ubulette I used usr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/libnssckbi.so04:02
asacor somethingyes04:02
asacyes04:02
Ubulettenow, my bot builds 1.9a9pre so it's bad04:02
asacwhy?04:03
asacboth version seem to match04:03
Ubulettebecause the *.link hard coded a8pre04:03
asacah04:03
Ubulettewhich is gone after the upgrade04:03
asacyou can use wildcard in .links file04:03
asachmm04:03
asacwell we should use 1.9 for everything04:03
asacafter all its the same release series ... so justified imo04:04
Ubuletteyep, that's my conclusion too from yesterday04:04
asacUbulette: wait a second04:04
asacUbulette: who creates the link?04:04
Ubulettexul04:04
asacthen i don't understand the problem?04:05
asacyou can just use wildcard during build ... which should give you the proper link path for the xul package you currently build04:05
Ubulettehow do you rewrite "usr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/libnssckbi.so" without using the version in it ?04:05
asacusr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so usr/lib/xulrunner-*/libnssckbi.so04:05
asacthat should work04:05
Ubulettenot if you have two xul or more04:05
asacwell i think its expanded during build04:06
asacso there will always be only the one you currently build in debian/xulrunner-1.9 at that point04:06
asacimo it should just work04:07
Ubulettehmm, maybe it's ok for build bots but not our own chroots as we work on several packages04:07
asacthats not a problem either04:07
asacit doesn't look in system location04:07
Ubulettehmm04:07
asacthe debhelper .links file just creates the links in the target directory (debian/xurlrunner-1.9(04:07
asacso at any given time there will be the right directory name04:08
Ubuletteoh, right :)04:08
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asacUbulette: i don't think we need this fix for the already closed release, right? or isn't the release already marked in changelog?04:09
Ubulettexul is still 1.9a8pre, maybe we should close with the taggued a8, if it does exist04:11
Jazzvaasac: Hey... I've got two questions :)... I started implementing admin check in ubufox, so I wanted to check with you how should I do it... Should I check if user is a member of admin group in /etc/group?04:11
asacJazzva: hmm04:11
asacJazzva: hello ;)04:11
Jazzvaasac: Though, I read that I can't do the file I/O operations in JS... only in XUL...:/04:12
Ubuletteasac, xul.dev is still xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~a8~cvs20070913t1423-0ubuntu1~mt3) UNRELEASED04:12
asacUbulette: ok ... feel free to commit that on top then04:12
Ubulettedone04:12
asacgreat04:12
Jazzvaasac: And I thought of writing simple function in JS... Seems like I need to find a way to do it in XUL (that is if I'm gonna check the /etc/group file)...04:13
asacJazzva: we could do a hack04:13
gnomefreakasac:  have a look at bug 135110 how should we handle this ffox works great without googletoolbar but fails with it i tried closing it but since he opened it back up i gave him work to do ;)04:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135110 in firefox "[gutsy]  firefox freezes with google toolbar enabled when you attemp to open more than two windows" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13511004:13
asacJazzva: run /bin/sh ... with args { "-c", "\"/usr/bin/groups > /tmp/tempfile\"" }04:14
asacthen read tempfile ;)04:14
Ubuletteasac, where can I get an uptodate list of moz tags ?04:14
Ubulettecvs log ?04:14
asacUbulette: a good start point is to do cvs status -v client.mk04:15
Jazzvaasac: Hmm... what should it do? *unsure*04:18
Ubulette        MOZILLA_1_9a8_RC1               (revision: 1.347.2.1)04:19
Ubulette        MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE           (revision: 1.347.2.1)04:19
Ubulette        MOZILLA_1_9a8_MINIBRANCH        (branch: 1.347.2)04:19
asacUbulette: yes04:21
asactake that one for xul release: MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE04:21
asacat best add a MOZ_CO_BRANCH option to mozclient ;)04:21
asacJazzva: i am unsure as well :)04:22
Jazzvaasac: And what do you want me to run :)? I've played a bit with those args, but there's no command :)...04:23
asacJazzva: what do you  mean?04:23
Jazzva /bin/sh <run_what?> -c \"/usr/bin ... /tempfile\"04:24
asacJazzva: i already posted exactly what i think is needed04:24
Jazzvaasac: And that's why I asked what should the tempfile contain :)...04:24
asacJazzva: ah ... yes the string |admin|04:25
asacyou could also grep for admin04:25
asacand see if the file is non-empty04:25
asace.g.04:25
asac/bin/sh ... with args { "-c", "\"/usr/bin/groups | grep admin >> /tmp/tempfile\"" }04:25
Jazzva /bin/sh: Can't open ...04:26
asacJazzva: there is a /bin/sh on my system04:26
Jazzvaasac: On mine too... that's why it says "can't open ...". I suppose it would be "command not found: /bin/sh" if there weren't one... I think I know how to make it work :)04:27
asacJazzva: what do you try?04:28
asacare you in javascript?04:28
Jazzvaoh... umm.. never mind :)04:28
asacJazzva: you have to creawte a local file object first04:29
asachttp://www.xulplanet.com/references/xpcomref/comps/c_filelocal1.html04:29
asacwith the /bin/sh path04:29
asacthen test if its executable04:29
asacthen you create an nsIProcess and run it with that file ... + the args above04:29
Jazzvaasac: Ok...04:29
asachttp://www.xulplanet.com/references/xpcomref/ifaces/nsIProcess.html04:29
JazzvaThanks...04:30
asacComponents.classes['@mozilla.org/file/local;1'] .createInstance(Components.interfaces.nsILocalFile)04:30
asacet al04:30
asacJazzva: but i am currently not sure04:31
Jazzvaasac: Ok... I'll play with it a bit :)04:31
asacin the end the install backend should be able to tell us if it can be run04:31
asace.g. apturl --test-permissions04:31
asacshould return 0 if its ok ... otherwise 1 ... or something like that04:31
asacits an ugly hack to implement some thing like knowledge about unix group concepts in ubufox04:32
JazzvaYeah, but that will happen only after user selects plugins and stuff... I suppose it should appear before that.04:32
asacJazzva: no i mean: in the end pluginstallerservice should have the capability to plug in new install backends.04:32
asac1. XPIInstall04:32
asac2. apturl04:32
asacwhen it discovers an url and sees that its apturl it should be able to ask apturl if can be served04:32
asacright in the beginning04:32
asacotherwise don't display result entries that cannot be served04:33
asacJazzva: but for now feel free to hack it like above if that works04:33
JazzvaOk...04:33
gnomefreakasac: who do you want the n-m bugs assigned to or noone?04:34
asacgnomefreak: noone ... i will pick them when i want to work on them04:35
gnomefreakasac: ok what latest version of n-m and wpa?04:35
asacgnomefreak: just ask the questions above ... but take a look ... i often already asked that ... if you ask on them again it would probably annoy users ;)04:35
gnomefreakthat you pushed04:35
asacso please scroll abit up and see if they already provided what you ask for ;)04:35
gnomefreakthis is a brand new bug seems to be wpa fault04:36
asac0.6.5-0ubuntu1404:36
asacis the latest nm04:36
asacwpasupplicant is still 0.6.0-3 ... but hopefully will be 0.6.0+0.5.8-0ubuntu1 at the end of the day04:36
asacgnomefreak: the package we hopefully get by the end of the day can be prefechted from http://ppa.launchpad.net/asac/ubuntu/pool/main/w/wpasupplicant/04:37
gnomefreakty04:37
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huatsin the case of a bug like bug #137513 who will take the decision ?04:47
bluekujaheya asac04:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137513 in torbutton "[UNMETDEPS]  torbutton: auto-synced, depends on iceweasel" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13751304:47
huatsthere is 2 options : drop the package or adapt it to point depend on firefox.... I vote for the latter04:47
bluekujaasac: news for bitstormlite?04:47
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huatsasac: apparently you are the person who might tell me :-)04:50
asachuats: someone should provide a debdiff04:50
huatsasac: ok, I will :-) (or at least try)04:50
asachuats: someone mentioned in bug that he is working on it as well ... if its not you try to align with him04:51
huatsasac: I am the person in the bug :-)04:51
asacah ok ... then all fine ... assign the bug to you and go ahead :)04:52
asacshould be straight forward if you are lucky ;)04:52
huatsasac: I'll let you know...04:52
Jazzvahuats: I would suggest not to drop iceweasel out of depends, too :)...04:52
bluekujaasac: there is a patch for diff-ext which fixes the bug, gonna package it soon04:52
asacbluekuja: good04:53
asacbluekuja: bitstormlite is on top of my not imminent todos04:53
bluekujaasac: is bitstorm ok?04:53
bluekujagreat04:53
bluekuja:)04:53
asacwhenever there is room i will do it04:53
huatsJazzva: I will put it as a choice...04:53
bluekujaperfect, just ping me when done04:53
bluekuja;)04:53
Jazzvahuats: K :)...04:53
asacJazzva: did we come to a conclusion yet?04:54
Jazzvaasac: About ubufox? No, not yet...04:54
asacok04:54
asaci will ask someone something04:54
Jazzvaasac: I'm still messing around...04:54
asacJazzva: did you manage to run /bin/sh ?04:56
Jazzvaasac: Haven't tried yet... I'm reading a bit on the subject.04:56
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asacJazzva: ok04:58
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asacJazzva: i am asking apturl author if we can get a facility in apturl to test for that05:01
asacJazzva: he is away for 1.5h now ... so be patient05:01
asac:)05:01
Jazzvaasac: I was thinking of that too, to do a test in there... I thought to go and do it myself, but I don't know python *sighs*...05:02
asacJazzva: hehe ... better stay with javascript/xpcom then05:02
asacJazzva: actually i think we should now start to branch of and put all our work in ubufox for firefox 3.005:02
asacJazzva: after that admin feature we won't be allowed to add anything new anyways05:03
asacJazzva: and we have to submit our pluginfinderwizard upstream05:03
asacJazzva: if we are fast they might be ablet to punch it into firefox 3.005:03
asacbut for that we have to do some architectural improvements05:03
Jazzvaasac: You mean to start a branch after adding admin check?05:03
asacJazzva: doesn't matter ... we can branch now ... or after05:04
JazzvaMhm... Ok.05:04
asacJazzva: in the end the admin check will be done at a different place most likely for firefox 3.005:04
asacso ... it really doesn't matter much ;)05:04
Jazzvaasac: I get it :)...05:05
asacJazzva: if we are lucky it already works atm05:05
asachave you tried it with ffox 3?05:05
Jazzvaasac: Yes, a month ago... I think it worked...05:05
asacgreat ... so lets start with a new branch that has adapted maxVersion for now :)05:05
JazzvaThere was also a "restart gran paradiso" button in addons dialog and I thought it was a problem with ubufox, but it isn't...05:06
Jazzva*a button that wouldn't go away :)05:06
asacJazzva: oh05:06
asacinteresting05:06
Jazzvaasac: Yep... ok, just let me check it once more with GP05:07
JazzvaShould I put maxVersion as "3.0*"? Since this one is 3.0a7...05:07
asacJazzva: maybe look what other applications compatible with 3.0 do05:08
Jazzvaasac: K05:08
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gnomefreakbtw asac you have  ashit load of edgy/feisty n-m bugs open are they possible to fix or just wait 6 months till EOS05:09
asacgnomefreak: lots of those should be fixed in gutsy now05:09
asacgnomefreak: i put a lot of work into gutsy nm05:10
gnomefreakcant use that until gutsy is released though05:10
asacgnomefreak: they can test with livecd05:10
gnomefreakok works for me ;)05:10
asacgnomefreak: i usually ask to test with latest gutsy or livecd if a bug is long standing05:10
asacgnomefreak: just take care that i didn't ask that before05:10
asac:)05:10
gnomefreaki will ask them to test than05:11
Jazzvaasac: AdBlock put maxVersion 3.0a805:11
asacgnomefreak: yes ... ask to test and set to incomplete05:11
asacJazzva: yeah ... maybe really try 3.0*05:11
asacif that installs then we can use it05:12
JazzvaBut I think we can use 3.0* since that way it will be compatible with stable 3.0 once it gets out05:12
asacright ... if the match works its fine05:12
JazzvaWell, I already used that for other extensions I needed :)05:12
asacah05:12
asacgood05:12
asacthen take it05:12
asacgnomefreak: network-manager is a mess05:12
gnomefreakprior to gutsy yes i know05:12
asacgnomefreak: if people get angry you can explain that network-manager is now undergoing a massive QA effort05:13
asaci am sure that 30% of bugs should be fixed now in gutsy ;)05:13
asacand another 30% being driver bugs ... should be assigned to the proper kernel package05:14
asacbut i will do that :)05:14
gnomefreakok ill see what i can get done :)05:14
asacwe just need to get those rotten New bugs revived first05:14
asacgnomefreak: and please remember if you see someone commenting that something got worse in the last uploads ... let me know05:15
gnomefreakasac: ofcourse05:15
asac.e.g. regressions are top-prio05:15
asacgnomefreak: i will go now through the incomplete bugs that have no response (according to LP) ... because those will be closed otherwise05:17
asacautomatically05:17
gnomefreakk05:18
gnomefreakasac: not even sure this is a bug, see bug 99206 i cant say i ever noticed it05:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 99206 in network-manager "feisty fawn beta: network manager sets multiple default route" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9920605:19
Jazzvaasac: Hmm, I didn't use 3.0* in extensions, but 3.*... 3.0* is not working with 3.0a705:19
asacgnomefreak: its fixed05:19
gnomefreakgutsy?05:19
asacgnomefreak: we untangled network-manager and ifupdown ... and ifupdown routes get a metric set now ... so yes, its fixed since 0.6.5-0ubuntu1205:20
asacgnomefreak: feel free to close and tell him to reopen or open a new bug if he still sees it in latest gutsy05:21
UbuletteJazzva, did you try with just "3.0" ?05:21
asacanyone here with kde?05:22
asacAdmiral_Chicago: are you on?05:22
asacAdmiral_Chicago: are you still using kde?05:22
JazzvaUbulette: Hmm, funny... I thought that 3.0 should be lesser than 3.0a705:22
Jazzvaasac: I have it installed, if you need something...05:22
asacJazzva: nobody knows what kind of tweaks they have added to their version test :)05:22
JazzvaUbulette: But it worked :)..05:23
asacJazzva: yes ... i need info and screenshots how one configures network interfaces in kde :)05:23
asacJazzva: in gnome network-admin you cain either "disable" ... or you can configure dhcp or static05:23
asacJazzva: i wonder if you can disable in kde as well ... and what happens to /etc/network/interfaces if you do that05:23
gnomefreakkubuntu uses network-manager-kde no?05:23
Jazzvaasac: Ok, I'll see what I can do...05:24
asacgnomefreak: knetworkmanager.... but that doesn't matter05:24
asacgnomefreak: there should be another tool to configure network deviceds05:24
gnomefreakoh05:24
Jazzvaasac: As for ubufox... 3.0 or 3.*? Will 3.0 be greater than 3.0.0.*?05:24
Ubuletteasac, strange, I can't use both MOZ_CO_TAG and MOZ_CO_DATE05:24
asacJazzva: i can't tell ... if we run into problems on final release, we can bump the version05:25
Jazzvaasac: So, 3.0 for now?05:25
asacUbulette: no?05:25
UbuletteJazzva, ff will be 3 digits, not 405:25
asacUbulette: iirc i already did that ... but could have been a dream05:25
Ubulettemake -f mozilla/client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=xulbrowser MOZ_CO_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE MOZ_CO_DATE="20070924 0733"05:25
Ubulettecvs checkout: CVS password file /src/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file05:25
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig-find has disappeared05:25
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk has disappeared05:25
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/unix/uniq.pl has disappeared05:25
Ubulette/bin/sh: mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk: not found05:26
Ubulettemozilla/client.mk:565: /src/bzr/mozclient/mozilla/.mozconfig.mk: No such file or directory05:26
JazzvaUbulette: 3 digits? Something like 3.0.*? Didn't know that :)... I just used the 2.0.0.* scheme :).05:26
UbuletteJazzva, ff2 is 4 digits, ff3 will be just 305:26
Ubuletteunless they change their mind05:26
JazzvaUbulette: Oh, ok :).05:26
asacUbulette: have you checked out the client with the same branch/date05:27
asac?05:27
Ubuletteasac, yes05:28
asacUbulette: that doesn't work for me as well :/05:28
asaccvs co -rMOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE -D"20070924 0733" mozilla/client.mk05:29
asaccvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/client.mk has disappeared05:29
Ubuletteyep05:29
asacah05:29
asacwait05:29
asacwell cvs is too dump then05:30
asacwhat a mess05:30
asacUbulette: ah now i see :)05:31
asacUbulette: you can only do that with branch tags05:31
asacUbulette: real tags can obviously not be used together with a date05:32
Ubuletteoh05:32
asacso we need two switches05:32
asacMOZ_RELEASE_TAG=MOZILLA_1_...05:32
asacMOZ_BRANCH=MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH05:32
asacMOZ_RELEASE=MOZILLA_1_...05:32
asacMOZ_BRANCH can be used with date05:33
asacrelease obviously not05:33
asacfor releases there shouldn't be a date in changelog anyway05:33
asaccvs co -rMOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH:20070924 mozilla/client.mk05:33
asacU mozilla/client.mk05:33
asacthat worked for me05:33
asacUbulette: currently mozclient as DEBIAN_DATE as argument right?05:34
Ubuletteright05:34
asachow about using DEBIAN_VERSION ... and then doing smart things05:35
asac?05:35
Ubuletteyep, later. I'm in tags and branches now05:35
asacyes ok05:35
gnomefreakfuck :(05:39
asacgnomefreak: please be more verbose on your wrong doings05:40
gnomefreaksmoking helps me think but by than its too late05:40
gnomefreakasac: i forgot to give them the links to lastest (stops them from grabbing tribe 505:40
gnomefreak)05:40
gnomefreakwill go through mail and give link05:40
gnomefreak!daily05:40
ubotuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/05:40
asacgnomefreak: wait ... latest what?05:41
asacah05:41
asaclatest cd ... ok05:41
gnomefreaklivecd05:41
asacwell i usually don't tell them where they get it :) .... but its a good idea ;)05:41
gnomefreaksome dumb ass will grab tribe 4 or 5 knowing my luck and say no its not fixed05:42
gnomefreakhmmmmmm05:45
JazzvaYay... I lost my ssh key in the format... damn05:46
gnomefreakasac: take a look at bug 45696 you got an auto response to you. and you didnt even file the bug05:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 45696 in network-manager "NetworkManager can't find interface on resume from suspend" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4569605:47
gnomefreakfound in email05:47
asacaehm ... who is that?05:49
asacSystem 7605:51
asacgnomefreak: did you get his sender email?05:52
asacgnomefreak: so you can ping him about taking his autoresponder of from net?05:52
gnomefreaki dont know who it is05:52
gnomefreakwas it LP?05:52
asacgnomefreak: no its him05:53
asacyou should be able to see his email05:53
gnomefreakok give me a few05:53
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Jazzvaasac, I created a new branch https://code.launchpad.net/~jazzva/ubufox/ff305:58
JazzvaI just branched from ff2 ubufox version and changed the maxVersion05:58
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asacJazzva: good05:59
JazzvaGoing to KDE to see that network interface... brb.06:00
asacreboot (kernel update)06:03
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Jazzvaasac: Well, it looks pretty much the same... I'll take the screenshots and notify you once I upload them.06:06
asacJazzva: so disabling network makes the interface knetworkmanager manged?06:08
asac(would be expected)06:08
Jazzvaasac, sorry... What does "makes the interface knetworkmanager managed" mean? Managed in what way?06:12
asacJazzva: you can switch to the interface through network manager06:13
asace.g. when clicking on applet you can choose where to connect to06:13
Jazzvaasac: Yeah, I suppose... I have only one interface configured, so I can't try to switch... But I suppose it should do that :)...06:14
asacif the interface/device is available there its aclled "managed through network-manager" ... if its not its managed through ifupdown06:14
asacJazzva: please paste:06:14
gnomefreakthis SOB06:14
JazzvaIt's managed through network manager :)... I would say that...06:14
asac/etc/network/interfaces - when you configure dhcp in kde06:14
asac/etc/network/interfaces - when you disable your interface in kde06:14
asac(in kontrol-panel i guess)06:15
gnomefreakasac: this auto sender guy thomas he doesnt have a wiki he has LP page but no email and he doesnt look to be anything other than system-76 teams06:15
JazzvaOk...06:15
gnomefreakoh crap slipped right by me06:15
asacgnomefreak: can't you see his email in the mail you received?06:16
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asac :)06:17
Jazzvaasac: After setting to dhcp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38462/06:17
gnomefreakasac: i found it06:17
asacJazzva: good ... and when disabling?06:18
Jazzvaasac: It looks the same after I disable it...06:18
asacwell please paste :)06:18
asacand post a screenshot how you disable so i can post a bug against kcontrol or something06:19
Jazzvahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38463/06:19
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asaclooks broken06:20
JazzvaSo, it should disconnect me when I disable, but it doesn't...06:22
asacyeah it should disable the interface ... further it shoudl make eth0 an auto interface if you enable ... which it apparently doesn't as well06:23
JazzvaOk, I'm uploading the screenshots...06:23
asacso when you enable in that you won't have network unless you manually ifup it06:23
gnomefreakasac: i assigned bug 135241 to you so you can figure out what to do with it06:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135241 in firefox "[gutsy]  some animations are really *slow*" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13524106:24
asacok06:24
asacok i am out again for an hour or so ... shopping et al06:27
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shirishUbulette: you up m8?06:27
Ubuletteyep06:27
Ubuletteshirish, hi06:27
shirishhey cool :)06:28
shirishso what's up?06:28
Ubulettegetting close to releasing ff3/xul a806:28
shirishcool cool :)06:29
shirishwhat did you think about the mail I sent you yesterday, do you see anyway out?06:29
Ubulettesorry for the totem mess. upstream bumped lib version06:29
Ubuletteyou have to force it just once06:29
Ubulettean downgrade pl7 using gutsy06:30
Ubuletteand06:30
shirishthis is crazy lol06:30
Ubuletteno06:31
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shirishgnomefreak: sure06:31
UbuletteI just continued to ship pl9 in the pl7 package06:31
Ubuletteit's fixed06:31
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shirishok so one by one06:32
Ubuletteshirish, but to go back to normal, you have to force it (ie break the loop)06:32
shirishUbulette: what do you mean by go back to normal? You mean gutsy mirror stuff?06:32
Ubulettesomething like this:06:33
Jazzvaasac: http://profile.imageshack.us/user/Jazzva ... Uploaded the images... They're labeled with a number and some name, in order I opened windows :).06:33
Ubulettedpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libtotem-plparser9_2.21.0+svn20070923r4731+bbot-2_i386.deb06:33
Ubuletteapt-get -f install libtotem-plparser7=2.20.0-0ubuntu106:33
Ubulettethat did it for me06:33
Ubuletteso brasero should work again06:34
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shirishUbulette: which means that I shouldn't upgrade totem then06:37
Ubuletteyou should06:37
UbuletteI will no longer ship plparser706:38
Ubulettegutsy will06:38
shirishoh ok cool :)06:38
Ubulettethat's why I said you only have to do that once06:38
shirishsee, having a dumb tester sometimes does have it advantages ;)06:38
Ubulette:)06:38
shirishanyway what were the cool changes you were talking about the other day?06:39
Ubuletteno more gp/trunk but ff-3.006:39
shirishsaw that the other day ;)06:40
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shirishatleast for gp, its now moved to ff-3.0 didn't know about firefox-trunk is also ff-3.006:40
shirishif this happens, how do I differentiate between yours & theirs? As a user its the naming convention which makes it easier to know which is where06:41
Ubulettejust by versions06:41
shirishI usually start FF from the CLI so I know if any crash happened. This will make it really difficult for me. Any ideas how to go about it?06:42
Ubuletteshirish, i don't see how it is different from any other apps.06:44
shirishUbulette: lemme explain what I mean , till now it was like firefox, firefox-gp & firefox-trunk as the differences, correct06:44
shirishnow with ff-gp becoming ff-3.0 its ff, ff-3.0, f-t06:45
UbuletteI just merged ff-gp and ff-trunk into ff-3.006:45
Ubuletteff is still ff206:46
gnomefreaksee told you confusion was gonna be there06:46
shirishnow you want to make firefox-trunk (ff-t) as ff-3.006:46
Ubulettegnomefreak :)06:46
gnomefreak:)06:46
shirish;)06:46
Ubuletteshirish, just by looking at the version, you'll know which one you are running06:46
shirishUbulette: true, my question is, now I know what version I have, how do I change it06:47
gnomefreakshirish: not a moron but since im in channels with them all day its bound to happen. when people cant type lspci and read the output (like numbers next to intel graphics card) its only 4 frigging numberse06:47
gnomefreak)06:47
Ubuletteshirish, what do you mean by "how do I change it" ?06:48
gnomefreakoh yeah i should be gone, oops leaving now ;)06:48
shirishhang on, lemme see if I can tell you . right now I'm running firefox-trunk & it shows Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9a8pre) Gecko/2007091321 Minefield/3.0a8pre06:49
Ubulette(it's old)06:50
shirishright06:50
Ubuletteyou should be running 2007092317  3.0a9pre06:51
shirishnow if I try running firefox-3.0 after doing the stuff you told me too, I get this06:51
shirish firefox-3.006:51
shirishCould not find compatible GRE between version 1.9a9pre and 1.9a9pre.06:51
Ubulettehmm06:51
Ubulettewhat xul are you running ?06:51
shirishxulrunner 1.9a8pre+cvs20070912t091306:52
Ubulettebad06:52
Ubulettetoo old06:52
shirishshouldn't it have been upgraded with the rest of the stuff?06:53
Ubuletteyep. unless you missed the 1.9a8pre => 1.9~a8~ change06:53
Ubulettethat I've talked about a few weeks ago as requiring a manual upgrade (forced)06:54
Ubuletteas it's seen as a downgrade06:54
shirishwe did that afai remember06:54
UbuletteI did, did you ? :)06:54
shirishoh perhaps, perhaps not06:55
Ubuletteobviously not06:55
shirishright06:55
Ubulettejust force it once and you'll be back on track06:55
shirishok will do , command please06:55
shirishmake that doing, command please.06:56
Ubulettehold on. (or you can do that with synaptic)06:57
Ubuletteapt-get install xulrunner-1.9=`apt-cache show xulrunner-1.9 | grep Version | grep a9 | cut -d' ' -f2`06:58
shirishnope, this way atleast its in history , with synaptic there is no history06:58
Ubulettesomething like that06:58
shirishok 5 minutes, doing bunch of upgrades then will try this one06:59
shirishwhile I understood the grep didn't understand cut -d option06:59
Ubulette?07:00
shirishthe last bit of the command, trying to understand what we are parsing/doing07:01
Ubuletterun it by pieces07:01
Ubuletteapt-cache show xulrunner-1.9 | grep Version07:01
Ubuletteapt-cache show xulrunner-1.9 | grep Version  | grep a907:01
Ubuletteetc..07:01
shirishUbulette: xulrunner seems to be downgraded by the command you have given07:08
Ubuletteyep, that's expected as a8pre > a9~07:08
shirishyes07:08
Ubulettehmm07:09
Ubulettei mean07:09
Ubulettethat's expected as 1.9a8pre > 1.9~a907:09
shirishoh ok07:11
shirishok going to have dinner, bbs07:15
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asacok so vlad thinks cairo will be stable in time for ffox 3.007:52
asacgood luck :)07:52
asaci already see them shipping with cairo 1.5.807:52
asacwhich of course won't allow to use 1.6 system cairo because cairo devs don't care for API compatibility within dev releases07:52
JazzvaHey, asac... In case you missed :)07:55
Jazzva<Jazzva> asac: http://profile.imageshack.us/user/Jazzva ... Uploaded the images... They're labeled with a number and some name, in order I opened windows :).07:55
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asacJazzva: yes i saw them07:55
asacJazzva: I already tested kde here as well (which i will now remove again)07:56
JazzvaAnd I think I found a way how to check if user is admin... but it'll only work if only one user is a member of admin group07:56
asacits just a big pain07:56
Jazzva...which sucks :/07:56
asacJazzva: hmm ...  i don't think that that  makes sense07:56
asac;)07:56
JazzvaMe neither :)... But I want to see if it works, then I can improve it :)...07:57
Jazzva...I guess...07:57
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asacJazzva: there?08:37
asachttp://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Add-ons_Manager_UI08:37
asacthats where we have to punch our finder dialog in in the end08:37
Jazzvaasac: Here...08:46
gnomefreakbug 3782808:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 37828 in firefox "Text rendered incorrectly in presence of ligatures and justified text" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3782808:46
asacJazzva: yeah ... i talked to mconnor ... and they would be happy to get contributions to that new add-ons manager08:46
asacJazzva: i will try to get a grib on the guy that is actually doing the lead so we can figure out how to align our work with them.08:47
Jazzvaasac: Ok... I like how it looks :)08:47
gnomefreakasac: whats the status of mozilla bug 331716 they just state it will be in nightlys and that it will come with next text framework code (neither very helpful atm)08:48
asacJazzva: Players === Plugins as a new workd08:48
ubotuMozilla bug 331716 in GFX: Gtk "'fi' and 'fl' ligatures overlap following glyph with justified text in pango builds" [Normal,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33171608:48
gnomefreakcaught my attention due to someone in #ubuntu-devel having the issue08:48
asacgnomefreak: do we see that in our builds as well?08:49
gnomefreakasac: hes using our build08:49
Jazzvaasac: Anyhow, I think I'm somewhere near the end of the checkAdmin stuff...08:49
gnomefreakyes its linked from bug 3782808:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 37828 in firefox "Text rendered incorrectly in presence of ligatures and justified text" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3782808:49
gnomefreakits old bug08:49
asacah08:50
asacwell we have to live with that i guess08:50
asacgnomefreak: do we have a test case?08:50
gnomefreaknot sure ill look08:50
gnomefreaki dont see a clear cut test case but its all about how the font is rendered08:51
gnomefreakseems dejavu is a workaround08:52
asacgnomefreak: ok09:01
asacgnomefreak: can you ask people in firefox bug reports if starting firefox from command line like:09:01
asacMOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1 firefox09:01
asacboosts their performance?09:01
gnomefreakasac: if i still had the bugs09:01
gnomefreakor you mean everyone?09:01
asacgnomefreak: no ... i mean any bug where they complain about pref09:01
asacperf09:01
asacyes09:01
asacgnomefreak: every bug that complaims about performance issues09:02
asac(gutsy only)09:02
gnomefreakasac: if i run into them09:02
asacthanks09:02
gnomefreakasac: not gonna see many in gutsy09:02
gnomefreaki think we have seen 98% of bugs in firefox-gutsy09:02
Ubuletteasac, make DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE firefox-orig   now produces a stripped firefox-3.0_3.0~alpha8.orig.tar.gz09:02
Ubulettebut I can't make the branch work. ie with make DEBIAN_BRANCH=MOZILLA_1_9a8_MINIBRANCH firefox-orig09:03
asacUbulette: what happens with that?09:06
asacUbulette: its not that important as long as mozilla 1.9 hasn't been forked09:07
asacbut should be possible after all ;)09:07
Ubulettecvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co  -r MOZILLA_1_9a8_MINIBRANCH mozilla/client.mk09:07
Ubulettemake -f mozilla/client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=xulbrowser MOZ_CO_DATE="20070924 1030"09:07
asacgnomefreak: we have beta next week ... that should bring us new bugs09:07
asacgnomefreak: anyway, there should be open performance issues already09:07
Ubuletteand it fails with:09:07
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig-find has disappeared09:07
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk has disappeared09:07
Ubulettecvs checkout: warning: new-born mozilla/build/unix/uniq.pl has disappeared09:07
Ubulette/bin/sh: mozilla/build/autoconf/mozconfig2client-mk: not found09:07
gnomefreakthere might be but ill look later in week im all bugged out today09:08
asacUbulette: ok ... leave it alone for now. have you tried MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH?09:10
asacUbulette: you probably need to provide MOZ_CO_TAGS as well?09:10
Ubulettedoesn't work with  MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH as my quilt patches are rejected09:11
asacmake -f client.mk checkout MOZ_CO_PROJECT=browser MOZ_CO_TAG="MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH" MOZ_CO_DATE="20070924 1703"09:15
asaccheckout start: Mon Sep 24 21:15:34 CEST 200709:15
asaccvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot -q -z 3  co  -r MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH -D "20070924 1703" -D "20070924 1703" mozilla/client.mk mozilla/browser/config/mozconfig mozilla/build/unix/modules.mk mozilla/build/unix/uniq.pl09:16
asacworks09:16
asacUbulette: can we still checkout full browser target with mozclient? e.g. vs. xulbrowser?09:18
asaci have the feeling that the MINIBRANCH is broken09:19
Ubuletteasac, why do you need that ? (full browser)09:23
asacno idea ... i could use mozclient to track all i have09:27
asacif we don't know about the project it should just forward the request to client.mk09:27
asace.g. like MOZ_CO_PROJECT=$(DEBIAN_MOZ_PROJECT)09:27
asacbut thats a dream09:27
asacnot a requirement09:27
Ubuletteok, I can generate xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8.orig.tar.gz and firefox-3.0_3.0~alpha8.orig.tar.gz09:33
Ubuletteasac, what else is needed to release that ?09:33
Ubulettea809:34
asacif xulrunner has system-nss/nspr and firefox can be build that way ... we are through i think09:34
asacUbulette: let me do the ppa upload now ... just 15 minutes break09:35
asacthen i can get back to mozilla work09:35
asachopefully this beta thing is then through for me09:35
Jazzvadinner and stuff... bbl09:41
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Ubulettehmm. now make DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE nss-orig produces nss_3.12.0.orig.tar.gz which is obviously wrong09:48
UbuletteI've removed the ~cvsdate on purpose for ff/xul09:48
Ubuletteasac, any ideas how I can name nss/nspr tarballs when using a tag ?09:50
asacUbulette: hmm09:59
asacUbulette: which tag?09:59
Ubulettemake DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE nss-orig09:59
asachmm10:00
asaci think you have to grep the tag out of client.mk10:00
UbuletteMOZ_CO_TAG           = MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE10:00
UbuletteNSPR_CO_TAG          = MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE10:00
UbuletteNSS_CO_TAG           = MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE10:00
UbuletteLDAPCSDK_CO_TAG      = MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE10:00
Ubulette:)10:00
asacwell ... that looks scary10:01
asaci don't think that that came out of cvs?10:02
Ubuletteit did10:02
asacNSPR_CO_TAG          = NSPR_HEAD_2007082010:02
asacNSS_CO_TAG           = NSS_3_12_ALPHA1B10:02
asacLDAPCSDK_CO_TAG      = LDAPCSDK_6_0_3_CLIENT_BRANCH10:02
asacthen its a bug?10:02
Ubulettefetch client.mk with MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE10:02
asacok10:03
asacthey appear to start to get some clue10:03
asace.g. tag whole tree10:03
asacprobablyb ecause they saw that its a pain that way while using hg10:03
asacUbulette: there should be a version.txt or seomthing10:04
asacfor nss/nspr10:04
asacin source tree10:04
UbuletteI only found mozilla/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.h10:04
Ubuletteand mozilla/nsprpub/configure.in10:04
asac 31 MOD_MAJOR_VERSION = @MOD_MAJOR_VERSION@10:06
asac 32 MOD_MINOR_VERSION = @MOD_MINOR_VERSION@10:06
asac 33 MOD_PATCH_VERSION = @MOD_PATCH_VERSION@10:06
asac?10:06
asac 51 MOD_MAJOR_VERSION=410:06
asac 52 MOD_MINOR_VERSION=710:06
asac 53 MOD_PATCH_VERSION=010:06
asacthats really a mess10:07
Ubulettemost of gnome apps are like that too10:07
asacunfortunately my nss firend isn't online10:07
Ubuletteok, I'll keep ~cvsdate for now10:08
Ubuletteeven with tags10:08
asacyes10:08
asacits unfortunate, bue we cannot tell10:08
asacuntil we figured things out10:08
UbuletteI can't10:13
Ubulettedate is not available in that case10:13
asacfor date we have:10:13
asac~cvsDATE10:13
asacfor branch we can have10:13
asac~branchBRANCHANME10:13
Ubulettethe full name ?10:14
asacyes i think so10:14
Ubulette~branchMOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE ?10:14
asachmm10:14
Ubuletteugly10:14
asacits all a mess10:14
Ubuletteoh, I'm talking about tag, no branch10:17
asacyeah10:17
asaci got that ;)10:17
Ubulette-rw-r--r-- 1 bbot bbot 5029872 Sep 24 20:18 nss_3.12.0~tagMOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE.orig.tar.gz10:18
Ubulette:(10:19
asacyeah ... but that doesn't interleave well for cvs versions we have10:19
asaci take my napkin and start to cry10:20
asacUbulette: i am pretty sure that they just overtagged some other tag that is official NSS tag10:20
asaci would really like to use that again10:20
asaclike before10:20
asacok lets sort things out ... do you still use reak HEAD nss?10:21
asacor do we just need tags?10:21
asacand no date for nss/nspr?10:21
asacfor that case i would just suggest nss_3.12.0~a810:22
asacs/reak/real/10:23
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asac22:18 < asac> ok lets sort things out ... do you still use reak HEAD nss?10:24
asac22:18 < asac> or do we just need tags?10:24
asac22:18 < asac> and no date for nss/nspr?10:24
asac22:19 < asac> for that case i would just suggest nss_3.12.0~a810:24
asacUbulette: ^^10:24
asac22:20 < asac> s/reak/real/10:24
Ubulette_i still use real head10:25
Ubulette_and I don't see how to derive a8 from all that10:25
Ubulette_usual tag is NSS_3_12_ALPHA1B10:26
asacyeah10:26
Ubulette_gasp10:28
Ubulette_I now have a /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9*/ dir10:28
asacif that isn't enough ... trackerd is already running10:28
asacUbulette: that sucks10:28
asacUbulette: you can use dpkg variables then10:28
asacand wildcard it in debian/rules10:28
asacsubstvars10:29
Ubulette_any example somewhere ?10:29
Ubulette_oh, you mean a foo.links.in ?10:31
asacno10:32
asaci mean you can add content to a substvars file10:32
asacand then you can use it like you use ${misc:Depends} in control10:32
asacDh_Lib.pm10:34
asacthere is a function defined:10:34
asacaddsubstvar10:34
asacthat does the same thing but is tailored for package dependencies10:34
asaci think its basically appending something to a file10:34
asacUbulette: /srv/chroots/dapper1/usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Dh_Lib.pm10:35
asaccan you decipher what it doesn?10:36
asacUbulette: ok in /home/asac/ubuntu/firefox_pkg/firefox-2.x/debian/firefox.substvars10:36
asaci have10:36
asachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/419/10:37
asacUbulette_: you can probably just append whatever you want10:37
asace.g. misc:xulrunner-dirs=/tmp/myxulrunner10:37
asacso when starting build you can echo "misc:xulrunner-dirs=/tmp/myxulrunner" >> debian/xulrunner.substvars10:38
asacso when starting build you can echo "misc:xulrunner-dirs=/tmp/myxulrunner" >> debian/xulrunner-1.9.substvars10:38
asaci mean10:38
asacyou should be able to use the "all package" substvars: debian/substvars10:39
asacif that only works for control files it would be a shame10:39
asacand we would have to explore further options10:40
Ubulettehttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.dev/revision/8810:40
Ubuletteis line 21 corrupted ?10:40
asacyes10:41
asacBRANDING = $(NULL)10:41
Ubulettehmm10:41
asacoh10:41
asacyeah10:41
Ubulettethe ifndef line10:41
asaci saw that yesterday in diff mail10:41
asacits a unicode letter for me10:41
asacifneq (,$(findstring~cvs,$(DEBIAN_VERSION)))10:42
Ubulettedamn10:42
asacyou appear to have typed something french there ;)10:42
asachehe10:42
asacthough french is probably iso10:42
asacso i don't know10:42
asacmaybe its a ctrl+space on your keyboard?10:43
Ubulettehmm, I already have 3 commits on top10:43
asacno problem ... just fix it on top10:43
Ubulettedone11:13
Ubuletteasac, now, cvs will show the minefield branding and desktop icon, while non cvs will show granparadiso11:14
asacyes thats right11:19
asacUbulette: so for now xulrunner is just xulrunner-1.9 ?11:21
asacill that be the release branch later?11:21
Ubulettenope. It's still 1.9a8pre or whatever11:22
asacno ... i is the branch name xulrunner-1.9 the proposed branchname?11:22
asacthat will be used for gutsy release?11:22
asacor is that the branchname for PPA/dev11:22
asac?11:22
asacwe could either name the PPA/dev branch .dev ... or the gutsy branch .gutsy11:23
Ubulettewhy do we need two ?11:23
asacyou know why ;)11:24
Ubuletteoh11:24
Ubuletteright11:24
asacbecause we need a maintenance branch fo everything released +11:24
asacwe have to disable system/...11:24
asacnss/nspr11:24
UbuletteI'm sad about that11:24
asacwhy?11:24
asacin hardy this will be enabled11:25
asacits just for guts11:25
asacy11:25
asachopefully same for cairo ;)11:25
Ubuletteas you want but it just seems to work like that11:25
asacwell ... you never know the future ;)11:25
asaci think what we planned todo was to use .dev for dev+ppa and normal name for release11:27
Ubuletteok, than I will rename xul to xul.dev (to match ff3) and xul will be for gutsy11:28
Ubulettewith straight 1.9a811:29
asacuntil release we can stay on that branch11:29
asacno need to rename11:29
asacthen on release (or whenever we disable system stuff) we can push it to .dev11:30
UbuletteI'll back out the last commit and add install in /usr/lib/xul-1.9 instead11:30
asacok11:30
asacshouldn't be a big problem11:30
asacwhen 1.9.1 comes out (which is probabyl the first release justifying having two at same time installed) we can use xul-1.9.111:31
asacUbulette: wait ;)11:31
Ubulette..11:31
asaci don't know how easy we can hook in to cdbs install11:31
asacbut we could just run dh_link manually ... wit preexpanded path11:32
Ubuletteno need if we install in (1.911:32
Ubulette-1.911:32
Ubulettethe 1.9 is hardcoded everywhere already11:32
asache?11:33
asacwherelse?11:33
asacUbulette: .install files should work with *11:33
asacits just links11:33
asaci used * at multiple places11:34
asacin .install11:34
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9-dev.install:debian/tmp/usr/include/xulrunner-1.9*/11:35
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9-dev.install:debian/tmp/usr/share/idl/xulrunner-1.9*/11:35
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9-dev.install:debian/tmp/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9*/11:35
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9.install:debian/tmp/etc/gre.d/1.9*.system.conf11:35
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9.install:debian/tmp/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9*/11:35
Ubulettexulrunner-1.9.links:usr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9*/libnssckbi.so11:35
Ubuletteobviously, the last one is bad11:35
asacyes ... just link is the bad one11:35
Ubuletteas I said,  1.9 is hardcoded everywhere11:35
Ubulettebut it should not be a problem11:36
asacwhereelse?11:36
Ubuletteinstall_pkgconfig_files_with_version.patch11:36
asachmm11:38
asacyou could hook in binary-install/xulrunner-1.9::11:39
asacrule11:39
asacand run dh_link usr/lib/nss/libnssckbi.so $(wildcard debian/xulrunner-1.9/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9*/libnssckbi.so)11:39
asacwell you have to cut of debian/xulrunner-1.911:39
asacbut i have no hard opinion about it11:40
asacwe can always change to one or the other11:40
asacbut you have to fix the path in gre.d as well then11:40
asacpersonally i would use the wilcarded dh_link11:41
Ubuletteyou mean, continue to install in /usr/lib/xul-1.9a9pre ?11:42
asacyeah11:43
asacinstall full versioned path: force everybody to use static glue11:44
asace.g. as an educational measure :) ... makes sense?11:45
asacUbulette: do we tweak the binary name?11:45
Ubuletteyep; it was our idea initially (force to go the glue way)11:46
Ubulettehm, no11:46
asacso binary is upstream -1.9 ?11:46
Ubulettejust ff11:46
asacor is it -1.9prea8 atm=?11:46
Ubulettefta@ix:~ $ which xulrunner11:47
Ubulette/usr/bin/xulrunner11:47
Ubulettefta@ix:~ $ xulrunner -v11:47
UbuletteMozilla XULRunner 1.9a9pre - 200709241711:47
asacok so binary is just xulrunner? or is that a link?11:47
Ubuletteyep11:47
asac(binary or script)11:47
asac'yep' on an either or question is a non-parsable answer ;)11:48
Ubulettelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2007-09-24 21:41 /usr/bin/xulrunner -> ../lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/xulrunner*11:48
asacok11:48
Ubulettefta@ix:~ $ file /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/xulrunner11:48
Ubulette/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a9pre/xulrunner: POSIX shell script text executable11:48
Ubulettedoes it clash with xul 1.8 ?11:49
asacprobably atm11:49
asacwe can make an alternative out of it if we don't want to wipe xul 1.811:49
asacok only points agains a full-upstream-versioned pkglibdir are the buckets for plugins/extensions/prefs11:50
asacfor extensions is should be possible to have one pucket for all versions11:51
asacas packaged extension should ship the proper minVersion/maxVersion info11:51
asacotherwise its a grave bug for those extension packages11:51
asacand third-party internet extensions is the users problem if he installs them in the grant-unified xulrunner extensions dir11:52
Ubulette?11:52
asacso /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons-base/extensions is linked to the /usr/lib/xulrunner-*/extensions directory11:52
Ubuletteextensions are ok with full upstream versions11:53
Ubulettexulrunner-addons-base ? what's that ?11:53
asacno ... point is that we don't want to impose packaging issues for packaged extensions11:53
asacmoving our install path would require a transition for each extension/plugin on every upload11:53
asacbecause they are statically installed to some path ... so that needs to be fixed11:54
asacs/fixed/a fixed path/11:55
asacUbulette: ok i think i have the solution ;)11:57
asacUbulette: for plugins we don't all dump pure .so files anymore11:57
asacwe require every plugin in ubuntu to be wrapped in an extension11:57
asacthat works11:57
asacso the plugin should specify the right min/max version11:57
asacgreat!11:57
asac \o/11:57
asacso totem plugin would go to /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/totem@gnome.org/plugins/libtotemplugin.so11:58
asacand ship an install.rdf11:59
asac/usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/totem@gnome.org/plugins/install.rdf11:59
asacxulrunner will always ship extensions directory as a link to /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons11:59
asacwow ... that really rocks12:00
asacfine12:00
asacwe keep a plugins/ directory ... but don12:00
asac't allow packages to install to it12:00
asacif people still want to build plugins from source its their problem to update it ... or wrap them into a plugin-extension12:00
Ubulettehow do you prevent packages to install in there ?12:01
asacby policy :)12:01
asacif they do they get a critical bug12:01
asacif its not fixed for release package gets removed12:01
asacmaintainer has to fix it ;)12:01
asacand send upstream12:01
asacnote that redhat currently ships firefox-2.0.0.712:02
asacdirectory12:02
asacno idea if they have a central plugins dir12:02
asacwe could also provide /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/12:02
asacbut we can think later about that ;)12:02
Ubulettenote that we ship ff3 without any plugins12:03
asacyeah ;)12:04
asaci just want to think about issues that might arise if we ship with full versioned path12:04
asacnow i have a solution for extensions and plugins and i am happy to go on :)12:05
asachttp://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Deploying_a_Plugin_as_an_Extension12:05
Ubulettexul fixed12:08
asacoh no12:09
asacwhy is bzr bd broken?12:09
Ubuletteis it ?12:09
Ubuletteremember I've overwritten commit 2412:10
asacno apt removed a package i need12:10
asacok12:10
asacUbulette: have you tested that it works?12:12
Ubuletteyep12:12
asacok cool12:12
asacbuilding12:12
Ubuletteix:~/bzr/build-area/xulrunner-1.9-1.9~a8~cvs20070913t1423$ dpkg -c ../xulrunner-1.9_1.9~a8~cvs20070913t1423-0ubuntu1~mt3_i386.deb | grep nss12:13
Ubulette-rw-r--r-- root/root     11514 2007-09-17 22:36 ./usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/components/pipnss.xpt12:13
Ubulettelrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2007-09-24 22:03 ./usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/libnssckbi.so -> ../nss/libnssckbi.so12:13
Ubuletteasac, what if we have xul 1.9.0 and 1.9.1 both providing an extension ?12:19
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Ubulettexgl crashed12:31
Ubuletteprobably because of ff312:31
asacUbulette: what do you mean?12:31
asacthe extension packages just get versions12:31
asacextension packages build from xulrunner source should get strict depends12:32
asace.g. only valid for the same release series12:32
UbuletteI visited a graph history on bonsai12:32
asacso you have dom-inspector-1.9 and dom-inspector-1.9.112:32
asacfor both ... package and em:id12:33
Ubuletteff3 became huge, fighting with xgl for memory12:33
asachmm12:33
asacff3?12:33
Ubuletteyep12:33
asacprobably cairo bug :)12:33
Ubulettetry: http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsgraph.cgi?file=/mozilla/client.mk12:33
Ubulette:)12:33
asacwell client.m k is probably huge ;)12:34
Ubuletteindeed12:34
asacuff12:34
asacthat was close :)12:34
asaci managed to close epiphany before everything died12:34
asachow does konqueror deal with taht page?12:34
Ubuletteno idea12:35
asaclets see ;)12:35
asacbreaks the roof as well12:35
asacUbulette:12:45
asacmake DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE firefox-orig12:45
asaccvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co -D "20070924 1541" mozilla/client.mk12:45
asacwhy the hell is client.mk checked out by some date?12:45
asacoh wait :)12:45
asacall fine i think12:46
asachmm with latest mozclient its now:12:46
asacmake DEBIAN_TAG=MOZILLA_1_9a8_RELEASE firefox-orig12:46
asaccvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:/cvsroot co  mozilla/client.mk12:46
asacUbulette: did you push the TAG changes?12:47
asaci don't see any TAG in Makefile12:47
Ubulettehold on, it's committed but not pushed12:47
Ubulettepushed, rev1212:48
asacthanks12:49
asaclooks better12:49
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rexbronHello, anybody up?12:53
rexbronI have question (perhaps I will post it to the ML as well). Where can I find information on the procidures for packaging firefox based apps?12:54
Ubuletteasac, do you still see something missing for a8? (xul+ff)12:54
gnomefreakasac: did you ever sanity check and upload nspluginwrapper :)12:54
asacwell i crashed really hard here12:55
asacwow12:55
asaci just went to addons dialog12:55
Ubuletteasac ?12:55
asacand switch tabs back and forth12:55
asacbum12:55
Ubuletteno problem here12:56
gnomefreakme too i took some pain pills and just watched tv12:56
rexbronMy specific app is Celtx, a pre-production/scriptwritting app. The upstream ships a messy tarball, as it is cross-platform12:56
gnomefreakasac: do you still have the bug with the auto reponder?12:57
gnomefreakresponder12:57
asacok just saw new password manager dialog (which isn't a dialog anymore) :)12:57
asacgnomefreak: no idea12:57
asacgnomefreak: as you know i don't read bugmail atm12:58
gnomefreakhe said he didnt know what i was talking about12:58
gnomefreakhe wants me to foward him it12:58
asacgnomefreak: point him to the bug12:58
gnomefreakyeah i know12:58
gnomefreakasac: if i had the number i would12:58
asacssend him the link12:58
gnomefreakpkern has been hitting n-m bugs12:59
asacgnomefreak: asac: take a look at bug 45696 you got an auto response to you. and you didnt even file the bug12:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 45696 in network-manager "NetworkManager can't find interface on resume from suspend" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4569612:59
gnomefreakty01:00
asacpkern?01:00
asacgnomefreak: ?01:00
asacwhat about nm?01:00
gnomefreakhes been going through the bugs closing and some marking as low important and stuff01:01
asacah01:01
asacok01:01
asacas long as he knows what he is doing ... fine.01:01
gnomefreakok i emailed him01:03
gnomefreakhe seems to im not looking too close as he is a devel so i figure he knows01:03
gnomefreakit looks like wpa was uploaded01:04
asacyes01:04
asaca few hours ago :)01:04
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gnomefreaklol01:05
asacwell this thing goes with near zero testing into beta ;)01:05
asacso there is reason to be afraid :)01:05
gnomefreaktrue01:05
gnomefreakwtf happened to LP01:05
gnomefreakits all white and grey01:05
asacwfm01:06
tonyyarussowfm also01:06
asacUbulette: so how did we end up dealig with extensions in xul/ffox?01:06
Ubuletteasac, i can diverge the ext directory01:07
asacdiverge?01:07
asacUbulette: i think hte idea is to have a new source package called xul-addons-base01:08
Ubulettemove and link01:08
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asacthat has the directory /usr/lib/xul-addons-base/ .... and link to that directory01:08
asacfrom every xul application01:08
asacwould that work?01:08
Ubulettewhy is the package needed ?01:08
asacgood question :)01:09
gnomefreakUnpacking replacement wpasupplicant ??? this isnt wireless and my wireless doesnt need wpa why is it installing here?01:09
asacok then where to put that dir?01:09
gnomefreakupgrading even i dont remeber installing it01:09
Ubulettemain xul01:09
asac/var/lib/xulrunner-addons/ ?01:09
asacno i mean where to place it phyiscally01:09
Ubuletteoh01:10
Ubulette:)01:10
asacand every extension/plugin should go into that directory imop01:10
asacregardless of what version it has01:10
asacof course that might require either to conflict extensions ... or rename them (for the xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9.1 case)01:11
asacbut i think we can live with that because its not a matter of "breaking compatibility" with upstream from what i can see atm01:11
asacso /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/inspector\@mozilla.org/install.rdf01:12
asacneeds to be01:12
asac/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/inspector1.9a8pre\@mozilla.org/install.rdf01:12
asacand the em:id adapted accordingly in install.rdf01:12
asaccan we do that?01:12
asacwe could also use /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/inspector1.9@mozilla.org/install.rdf01:13
asacwe could also use /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/inspector-1.9@mozilla.org/install.rdf01:13
Ubulettehmm. it is used/linked by firefox-3.0-dom-inspector01:13
asacand tweak max/min version to just mach the 1.9 series01:13
asacUbulette: yeah we don't need to link anymore then01:14
asacjust depend01:14
asacas it will automatically be used by every xul app01:14
asac(well we link the whole extension dir)01:14
Ubuletteso both xul/ext and ff3/ext link that?01:15
asacyes every xul application points to the HUGE extensions directory01:15
asacthus my suggestion /usr/lib/xul-addons-base/01:15
asacthus my suggestion /usr/lib/xul-addons-db/01:15
asacmaybe01:15
asacwhat gets installed in user profile depends only on whether its compatible or not01:15
Ubuletteseems a lot of work. like gnome is just two .so (not an addon)01:15
asacwith the applicaiotn01:15
asacUbulette: gnome-support isn't an addon01:16
asacits not an extension ... nor a plugin01:16
asacits a component that we stripped out01:16
Ubulettecomponents are shared too01:16
Ubuletteor could be01:16
asacyeah ... but its just a xulrunner package01:16
asacit already happens01:17
asacautomatically01:17
Ubulettehmm, today it's a duplicate01:17
asace.g. we install that component in xulrunner/components ... and all xul apps will load that component01:17
asacthat shouldn't be necessary01:17
Ubuletteas make install in ff3 isntall it01:17
asacfirefox-gnome-support (empty package) depends on xulrunner-gnome-support01:17
Ubulettenot today01:17
asacUbulette: yeah but for release ;)01:18

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