=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV " === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Fri Sep 14 10:40:45 2007 [07:03] superm1 : are you aware of any command line type of program that will burn subtitle from .srt file into mpeg video frame? [07:03] can't say i am [07:03] sorry [07:03] no thanks [07:04] i found many authoring program that does this [07:04] but none that would do it via command line so I could add it to the mythtv user task after recording [07:05] New bug: #109227 in mythtv "Mythfrontend, mythtv-setup segfault" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109227 === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:20] superm1, evening [07:20] hello [07:20] i'm just about done triaging all the mythtv bugs, just not sure about bug 128100 [07:20] Launchpad bug 128100 in mythtv "mythtv commercial removal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128100 [07:21] thats a strange one [07:22] I havent ever seen that before [07:22] i'm not sure if it should be filed upstream or not [07:22] I would think so [07:22] tgm4883, can you file that upstream? [07:23] superm1, I almost have all the backend functions of the store working [07:23] Drupal makes that so easy [07:29] laga, i see a bug in http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-trunk/revision/laga%40prometheus-20070917172241-66zfjg7tymw1bf1z?start_revid=laga%40prometheus-20070917172241-66zfjg7tymw1bf1z [07:29] MYTHFELOG="/t] mp/mythfrontend.${$}.log" [07:29] what am I filing? [07:30] btw that bug report website [07:30] does not work in IE7 =P [07:30] to let you know [07:30] for some reason I have to use Firefox to report bugs [07:30] dont use IE7 :) [07:30] tgm4883, can you file bug 128100 upstream? [07:30] Launchpad bug 128100 in mythtv "mythtv commercial removal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128100 [07:30] with 90% of the people using IE7 .. you lose out lots of bug reports [07:30] but up to you man [07:31] TechBill, i'm surprised by that, i would think that canonical would handle that nicel [07:31] naw it all blank page in IE7 [07:31] header shows [07:31] but the rest is blank [07:31] weird [07:31] yup [07:31] well out of my hands :) [07:31] well not everyone patience or have 2 browsers install on computer like me 8-) [07:32] going to submit that bug report brb [07:32] superm1, did you know there is a module for drupal to fix the png rendering? [07:32] what's wrong with png? [07:32] I ran across it the other day [07:32] nothing now [07:32] just an fyi [07:32] superm1, where upstream would you like me to file that? On trac? [07:32] tgm4883, yeah if you could [07:32] ok [07:33] thx [07:37] done =P [07:38] superm1 : just learned that latest happuage windows driver have this feature called ccindvd which save closed captioning in proper standard format on mpeg file so I submitted a mailing like to ivtv and hope that they can do the same [07:39] cool TechBill, hopefully they like that idea :0 [07:39] yeah the mpeg file I record on sagetv could play back with CC in any mpeg players [07:39] but don't want to pay 80 dollar for something that locks up often 8-/ [07:40] so hopefully IVTV will be movitated to add similar feature [07:44] currently how does ivtv handle this then? [07:44] where do the CC go? [07:45] New bug: #144361 in lirc (main) "Control Centre Remote Control unable to overwrite custom or hardfile .lircrc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144361 [07:47] I don't know but it does get saved in mpeg file [07:48] becasue I could extract them using ccextractor [07:51] for some reason the mplayer or any mpeg player can't find the cc in mpeg saved by ivtv driver [07:51] but it there [07:51] why not just play them in myth then? [07:51] myth can handle them correct? [07:52] yes but I want to take my record show with me on the road on my laptop [07:52] and my laptop is windows for work reason [07:52] oh i see :) [07:52] I travel a lot [07:52] well have you tried VLC? [07:52] yes [07:52] same thing [07:52] it may cope better? [07:52] oh [07:52] shame. [07:52] tried quite a few mpeg players [07:53] New bug: #89971 in mythtv "mythbackend crashes in ProgramAssociationTable::ProgramNumber" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89971 [07:53] New bug: #93781 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv-setup doesn't link channels in the channel table with the sources in the uk_rt XML feed" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93781 [07:53] only mythtv is only one that can play back the cc so far that why I was asking you that question earlier what player is mythtv using [07:53] ah isee [07:53] well it uses ffmpeg internally [07:53] same thing as VLC and mplayer and xine [07:53] hrmm [07:54] but it probably written to look for the CC in the location it know where ivtv save it at [07:54] while all other player just look in the standard location [07:54] that one sucky thing [07:54] well its also possible it has a special ivtv decoder [07:54] that is activated by default [07:55] there never been a law passed on standard format of saving digital CC .. just analog [07:55] so all software writer have thier own idea where CC should be saved in mpeg =P [07:56] how annoying [07:56] well if they use "DVD" format of saving CC [07:58] dvd are encrpted media right? so only way to know where it saved is to deencrypted dvd and learn it so that would give them the ground to sue any author using dvd standard of saving cc in digital media [07:58] that why I think author are avoiding it [07:58] well i can't comment any of this topic myself [07:58] yeah me either === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [08:58] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7009728.stm Nazi Saulte? === portahex [n=jms@bb-87-82-17-56.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Fopper [n=foppe@cc921592-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === portahex [n=jms@bb-87-82-17-56.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Fopper [n=foppe@cc921592-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Ex-Chat"] === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@96-141-58-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@96-141-58-66.gci.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:39] superm1: thanks === MythbuntuGuest45 [n=Mythbunt@ip56529334.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:49] hi, is there a hardware list of which tv cards are known to work with mythbuntu? [11:50] MythbuntuGuest45, linuxtv.org [11:51] MythbuntuGuest45, mythbuntu works with any tv cards that work with linux generally [11:52] ok but how do i find out, i 'm new to working with tv cards so.., but I'll check out linuxtv.org thnx. [11:52] you could name your card. someone might know off the top of their heads [11:54] a friend gave me an old pinnacle pctv card [11:55] if it says "bt8x8" on a chip on the card it's likely supported [11:56] there is one chip i can see and it says: conexant fusion 878A [11:59] yup [11:59] that's the one [11:59] MythbuntuGuest45: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Leadtek_WinFast should help [11:59] note it's cpu intensive, so you'll need a fast enough machine [12:00] yeah. it's a software card, so your cpu needs to do all the heavy lifting [12:00] hmm so my old pIII 500mhz will probably be too slow [12:00] yeah it'll be too slow [12:01] you can get away with a bad cpu or a bad tv card. both at once not so much [12:01] but it's a fast enought to just be a backend with a hardware tuner card, I use 2 of these - http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/pages/products/data_novatpci.html - with my p450 backend and have no problems [12:01] :) [12:03] yeah, you can decrease concerns over cpu load by using either an analog tv card that does all the heavy lifting (hauppauge pvr-series) or a digital card that captures pre-encoded mpeg2 out of the sky (hauppauge nova-series) [12:04] and these hauppauge nova series are they supported by mythbuntu? [12:04] as I said I'm running 2 of them :) [12:05] ok :) [12:06] i run 1 of them and a simlar technotrend card [12:07] in the future i'll switch to a dual-tuner nova-t and a dvb-s card [12:07] I have a nova 500 dual card, but I was having problems so I un plugged it, but this was back on edgy [12:07] not tried it since [12:07] DaveMorris: should be better in gutsy [12:08] it's actually in my mythbuntu development box now :) I just need to stick the aerial connector on the end of the cable I ran to the machine and plug it in === DaveMorris is waiting for bug #144392 to be fixed so he can use ppa again [12:09] Launchpad bug 144392 in soyuz "cron.daily dies after poppy restart because of permission problems with queue dot-lock file" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144392 [12:14] ho hum [12:15] blah [12:15] i wish launchpad would fuck up less. [12:15] i also wish i was less cranky in the mornings :> [12:16] i wish shipping from china was faster [12:17] i wish the US wasn't turning in to a US state so i don't have to read about it in my favourite newsticker so i don't get annoyed. [12:17] I wish you all a very nice day, and thank you very much for your help :) [12:18] i hope you enjoy mythbuntu :) [12:19] thanks Ill be happy if I get it working.. [12:19] hey laga [12:19] laga: my wife is cranky in the morning too [12:20] mythbuntu rocks === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-55-172.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest45 [n=Mythbunt@ip56529334.speed.planet.nl] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [01:26] frink_: Geez... How can you get your hands on so much bandwidth? :) [01:41] Daviey: I built the network :) [01:41] huh, bandwidth? [01:50] laga: upto 600-700Mb/s [01:50] :O [01:50] nice === Daviey quietly suggests frink_ allows me a virtual server.. :) === Binary_Crap [i=1010101a@gateway/tor/x-b60152e7bd66f2d7] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:00] Well Daviey, depends what for innit. [02:00] I am loking forways to use up some bandwidth.. === troy_s [n=troy_s@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:05] frink_: just webhost, email server & possibly asterisk :D === troy_s1 [n=troy_s@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:06] Daviey: We're gunna setup a more general box actually.. [02:07] ok [02:07] so.. :) === MythbuntuGuest90 [n=Mythbunt@r200-40-207-69.ae-static.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:14] hula [02:14] windows rules [02:14] :) [02:15] that was worthwhile [02:16] yeah [02:26] .uy ? [02:27] uruguay === clarkey [n=matt@c210-49-174-217.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:35] hi just a quick question could anyone tell me what the password for the mythtv user is? [02:39] there isn't one [02:39] you're not supposed to log in as "mythtv" [02:39] use your regular user [02:41] so how do i use sudo in that user acct [02:41] ? [02:42] you don't. [02:42] you're not supposed to log in as "mythtv" [02:42] log in as your regular user. [02:44] yea i kno but for this i need to as GNOME stuffs around with wireless networks and what you get working in GNOME doesnt work in openbox [02:45] is there some way to log in as the regular user within openbox [02:45] im a bit of a newbie [02:46] just exit mythfrontend, then GDM will come up where you can login and choose your session type [02:46] kk cool [02:46] we need to find a good way to get wlan working :/ [02:46] yeh i kno [02:46] USB is especially hard lol [02:47] but i dont hav any PCI ports availiable [02:47] which sucks [02:48] laga, "nm-applet &" [02:48] just a question can i get nm-applet running in open box? [02:52] good question [02:53] let's find out... [02:54] Daviey: You're in the UK yeah? [02:54] yup [02:54] which bit? === frink_ is in London [02:54] Southampton, Hampshire [02:55] Ahh not too far away [02:55] o/ [02:55] give us a shoult next time you're up London town innit [02:55] will do [02:55] What part of London? [02:55] West side innit [02:55] I live in Fulham and work in Uxbridge [02:55] london's a git from soton though [02:55] the trains are crap [02:56] portahex: O RLY? [02:56] YA RLY [02:56] NO WAI! [02:56] srsly. [02:56] It's abou 1h20mins [02:57] gah do I miss a day of college and go to Taipei a day earlier or do I miss a day of meeting in Taipei and go to college? [02:57] college never did anybody any good [02:57] Daviey, assuming the trains are on time. and they stop far far too early too. and cost too much [02:57] yeah but this is like a new degree I am starting and I dun wanna like miss a day when I just started. [02:58] frink_: then i think you answered your own question :) [02:58] yup === frink_ books flexiable flights === bendailey [n=bendaile@mail.bhmsd.k12.in.us] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:58] then when I know what my schedule is I can decide :) [02:59] portahex, clarkey: will nm-applet typically ask for a password? [02:59] bendailey: How's the script hacking going? [03:00] laga, it'll ask you for your gnome-keyring password to access stored keys. assuming you don't have pam-keyring enabled# [03:00] portahex: that's a bit annoying for a mythtv box. [03:00] laga, time to write a front-end to the NM daemon! [03:01] yeah.. but mythtv + wireless = dumb imo [03:01] laga, or, here's a better idea... detect a wireless network and say "DUDE! WIRELESS SUCKS FOR MYTH" in big lett... damn you Daviey :( [03:01] Daviey: why. works for me. [03:01] portahex: or just use wpa-supplicant directly? [03:01] Daviey: also, 802.11n will improve things a lot. [03:01] it'll be great with 802.11n [03:01] heh [03:01] Daviey: aye, we can tell the user to configure wpa-supplicant himself, which'd suck, or we can add it to the control centre. === billbrasky [n=billbras@c-24-13-14-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:02] laga: should be pretty scriptable - the .conf is pretty straight forward [03:02] Daviey, assumes you only ever use one wireless network [03:02] portahex: and m-c-c can modify :P [03:03] nm-applet is just a restrictive wrapper for wpa-supplicant anyway... [03:03] we should get mythpon, python-dbus and networkmanager coupled up :) [03:03] mython.. haha [03:05] mythpython :) === clarkey [n=matt@c210-49-174-217.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-55-216.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-216.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === cooper76_ [n=cooper76@169.203.82.5] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Binary_Crap [i=1010101a@gateway/tor/x-19ff12f970737d78] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:06] DaveMorris, here? [05:07] morning superm1 [05:07] mornin [05:08] keeping a file system 95% full for several months is not good for performance, and xfs_fsr doesn't help either === DaveMorris here now [05:09] hey DaveMorris [05:09] any luck with regard to setting up the session? [05:10] well I releasied my packages weren't been installed, I forgot to bump the main revision number, then ppa was broken for the last 15hrs or so [05:10] since 1st uploads weren't working, then the accepting of packages [05:10] bug #144392 [05:10] Launchpad bug 144392 in soyuz "cron.daily dies after poppy restart because of permission problems with queue dot-lock file" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144392 [05:10] DaveMorris, that should be fixed now [05:11] I just uploaded and accepted 2 packages [05:11] I'll have a play tonight after work then [05:12] on a sadder note, I have to go get ready for school :( [05:12] okay === Binary_Crap [i=1010101a@gateway/tor/x-5e2f7a014c2aefd3] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:27] laga, i had to do a test build yesterday again because i wasn't so sure on a few of the patches [05:27] i'll be committing them in a little bi [05:27] t [05:28] what patches? mine? [05:29] not yours, the edit_display one [05:29] bug 139821 [05:29] Launchpad bug 139821 in mythtv "[patch] Roll in upstream changeset r12492, fixes edit mode display issues" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139821 [05:29] it was a very messy patch that he had there [05:29] way more invasive then was necessary [05:30] ah [05:37] laga, any news wrg to control centre debconf? [05:38] no. was gonna play with python this morning, got a weird error message, gave up. [05:38] <- in a bad mood today... [05:42] i see [05:42] okay well i just finished up my massive mythtv bug triage and fix and uploaded the new one. that should be good for some time [05:44] trying to recover this a box a bit. my /home has become unbearable slow [05:44] XFS sucks for deletes here [05:44] or for source trees [05:45] xfs is fast on large files. reiser is fast on multiple small files [05:45] true, but i don't want shredderfs anymore. i'll stick with xfs, enforce a quota so it doesn't get over 90% anymore and i'll tune it a bit === jams lost everything but /home and /data this weekend thanks to xfs [05:46] ouch [05:46] /home and /data are reiserfs [05:47] A fluke i suppose. Wasn't to bad only 4 hours to get a working system again [05:47] that did prompt me to refine the backups [05:48] heh [05:49] i've lost data to every major FS. [05:49] except HFS+ [05:51] New bug: #128100 in mythtv "mythtv commercial removal" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128100 [05:54] superm1: btw, janneg is working on the compile-type=apport stuff. [05:56] laga, any eta? === JRsup1 [n=chatzill@12-207-206-43.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest36 [n=Mythbunt@ip68-226-28-10.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:20] Greetings [06:29] superm1: just asked him, i'll let you know [06:34] superm1: how's the cd builds? [06:35] laga, superm1: how far from a new iso release are you? === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === sebrock [n=sebrock@h-91-126-96-52.wholesale.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === behdha [n=behdha@s559024e7.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === behdha is now known as deffcon2101 === deffcon2101 is now known as deffcon [06:57] laga : i have an 64 bit amd motherboard tried to install 64 bit version of mythbuntu, evereything goes well execpt mythbuntu-control-centre i will pastebin this error [06:58] laga : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38471/ [07:00] someone ? [07:00] deffcon: interesting. when exactly does this happen? [07:02] if i have an fresh install of mythbuntu alpaha 4 all updates all upgrades rebooted, then tried to launch mythbuntu control centre from mythtv configuratio meny nothing happens [07:02] i restarted gdm then changed my session to mythbuntu Administration session [07:02] then start control centre but still nothing happens [07:03] ok, and the control centre is the latest version, right? then you should file a bug ;) [07:03] then from a ternminal in same session and start mythbuntu control centre i get this\ [07:04] laga : where can i fill this bug [07:05] in launchpad, against mythbuntu-control-centre [07:07] yes have it [07:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/144509 [07:08] Launchpad bug 144509 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu-control-centre doesn't start with AMD64BIT Motherboard on X86 it works" [Undecided,New] [07:13] laga : another thing why isn't xmltv being installed by default === beavis [n=beavis@drms-590c75b7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:15] New bug: #144509 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu-control-centre doesn't start with AMD64BIT Motherboard on X86 it works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144509 [07:15] laga : because i wanted to add tv_grab_nl_py from http://graphics.tudelft.nl/~paul/grabber/#download but this isn't being showed in mythtv-setup under sources [07:15] i dunno. it really should be installed by default. file a bug ;) [07:16] is it baseline compliant? [07:16] laga : how do you mean laga [07:17] its support on the mythtv website under the howto's of the wiki under xmltv and then the netherlands [07:17] in alpha 3 i could use but in alpha 4 not anymore [07:18] it'll only show up if it's recognized by tv_find_grabbers [07:19] but it did in alpha 3 [07:19] not in alpha 4 [07:19] laga : btw [07:19] laga : https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/144513 [07:19] Launchpad bug 144513 in mythbuntu "xmltv isn't installed by default by mythbuntu" [Undecided,New] === superm1_ [n=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:19] evening superm1 [07:19] tv_find_grabber is only available if xmltv is installed [07:19] hi deffcon [07:19] yes that i did but still no luck [07:20] so: no xmltv, no tv_find_grabberS_ no tv_grab_nl_py [07:20] oh [07:20] sorry [07:20] i really don't know the problem i uses it before and installed it a thousand times but no luck in alpha 4 [07:22] what's breaking? [07:22] superm1: do you have an eta for new isos? [07:23] bendailey, i haven't had enough time to sufficiently test all of the new changes, but i'm expecting at least another week out [07:23] and we are still waiting on DaveMorris' stuff [07:23] deffcon: i just installed tv_grab_nl_py and it's not shwoing up with tv_find_grabbers [07:24] deffcon: you should talk to the author of that grabber. it has to be "baseline compliant". [07:25] superm1_: great I will try and get an updated download redirect script to Daviey later today or tomorrow [07:25] bendailey, are you adding weighting to the script? [07:25] New bug: #144513 in mythbuntu "xmltv isn't installed by default by mythbuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144513 [07:26] how is the hosting at Canonical coming [07:26] superm1_: yes adding weighting and moving it to mysql [07:26] bendailey, we got the approval for canonical hosting yes [07:26] Daviey is working the details on it [07:27] is mythbuntu.org moving to the canonical host? [07:27] also frink_ got things set up for another uk host, but i haven't had time to get items put onto it yet [07:27] bendailey, i think the ideal thing was going to leave it on jumpkick's, but also set it up on the canonical one [07:27] that way if jumpkick's goes down, we flip a dns switch [07:27] and go onto the canonical one [07:27] laga : what does baseline mean ( commandline based )? [07:27] deffcon: some reading material for you: http://xmltv.org/wiki/xmltvcapabilities.html [07:28] yeah drupal has replication module I believe [07:28] deffcon, regarding bug 144513, at what point in the install do you need it? [07:28] Launchpad bug 144513 in mythbuntu "xmltv isn't installed by default by mythbuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144513 [07:28] because not all setups will need it [07:28] um [07:28] laga : if this is what you it does support this all ( baseline ) [07:28] superm1_: what kind of logic is that? [07:29] superm1_: not all setups will need nvidia-glx. [07:29] superm1_: xmltv is most useful for setups outside the us. [07:29] laga, i mean is it needed before reboot? [07:29] or after [07:29] i didn't word that well [07:29] eg does it need to be included on the live disk or nto === foxbuntu_ [n=nick@75-167-73-116.desm.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:29] superm1_: depends. is mythtv-setup (and thus mythfilldatabase) run in the live disk? [07:30] superm1 : to install dutch ( netherlands ) tv_grab_nl_py [07:31] laga, well it's ran after you copy the install over [07:31] but before you reboot [07:31] does it need any other (external) configuration? [07:31] superm1_: then you need it i guess :) it's actually used to configure your channel lineup, too. [07:32] extrernal? no. that's handled by mythtv-setup. but mythtv-setup needs to be run in a terminal so you can configure the grabber. [07:32] so i mean do you need a terminal session to configure xmltv? [07:32] yes [07:32] superm1, laga : this is what i mean http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Netherlands [07:32] deffcon: i know what you mean, but your grabber has to be fixed first [07:34] do i have to contact the creator [07:34] ? [07:35] yes, or fix it yourself [07:36] i see the problem now it is in the version 020.2 of mythtv [07:36] i will have a look at it [07:37] no [07:37] the problem is not in mythtv 0.20.2 [07:37] what then ? [07:37] the problem is that your grabber does not support baseline, so it can't be used by mythtv [07:39] how do you know that for sure i used it for almost a year in mythtv [07:39] because new xmltv code was introduced in 0.20.2. [07:39] by default, it'll only use grabbers reported by tv_find_grabbers [07:40] because these have a common command line API [07:40] so they behave in the same way. there's no need for special cases for individual grabbers in the code anymore [07:41] ok...someone is a download whore from my mirror [07:41] wait laga so you do need a terminal session? [07:41] lol [07:41] so what are we to do then about that? [07:42] so basically i can't use it anymore === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:42] superm1_: instead of spawning mythtv-setup, spawn a terminal which will spawn mythtv-setup? [07:43] deffcon: use it with mythfilldatabase --file or make get the grabber author to fix it [07:43] deffcon: in the time it's taken me to read the release notes to you, you could have written that email to that guy twice. === laga goes to slam some doors [07:46] laga, okay that's feasible, what about on step 16 [07:46] having an extra button [07:46] that will configure xmltv [07:46] just like how there is a schedules direct button [07:47] are there any situations that you will mix and match xmltv / schedules direct? [07:48] xmltv isn't at all relevant for US / Canada users right? [07:50] thnx laga [07:52] superm1 : did you just send me an email about the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144509 [07:52] Launchpad bug 144509 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu-control-centre doesn't start with AMD64BIT Motherboard on X86 it works" [Undecided,New] [07:53] deffcon, i replied to the bug [07:54] superm1 : i am up 2 date with packages [07:54] deffcon, that's pretty odd then to have that happening. [07:55] when did you adjusted something then ? [07:55] i'm wondering how those dependencies have dissappeared [07:55] guys : come on, i told laga that i also have an 64 bit motherboard where i tested mythbuntu on that is this bug on x86 it works [07:56] gah another broken juniper interface :( [07:56] deffcon, its amd64 only? [07:56] hey superm1_ [07:56] oh that makes things interesting [07:56] it is amd [07:56] hi frink_ [07:56] Hows life? [07:56] busy busy busy :) [07:56] i wish i had 2x as many hours in a day === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@dyn-124-136.wou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:57] yeah now that would be handy.. Either that or a clone. [07:57]