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=== Topic (#ubuntu-x): set by bryce at Fri May 18 23:35:30 2007
tepsipakkibryce_: yes, I reopened that07:17
tepsipakkiok, so I'll merge nv and ati.. lets hope they'll make it in beta :)07:18
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ubotuNew bug: #51421 in gtk-qt-engine (main) "GTK applications leading Xorg to huge memory usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5142109:41
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ubotuNew bug: #134370 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Video dosen't play correctly in Totem" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13437010:10
mvobryce: do you think there will be anything we can do about bug #133118 ? if not I will blacklist it for compiz 10:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133118 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "very corrupt X after suspend/resume" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13311810:31
ubotuNew bug: #144382 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14438210:50
ubotuNew bug: #144387 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14438711:00
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tepsipakkihmm, no new ati/nv for beta01:12
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ubotuNew bug: #105822 in xorg-server (main) "special chars mangled after switch to graphical console" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10582201:32
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tormodbryce: is /etc/gdm/failsafeInstall in use? it looks broken. do you know who wrote it?02:57
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bryce_tormod, I wrote it, and it's no longer in use; we can drop it now.06:50
tormodbryce, fine. the sed regexps were pretty broken.06:50
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mvobryce_: have you seen my earlier question about -intel and the texture problem after resume on i855?07:51
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bryce_mvo, no I didn't07:56
bryce_mvo, I'll look into it07:57
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bryce_tepsipakki: think we'll be able to get them in post-beta?07:58
tepsipakkibryce_: yes, hopefully so07:58
bryce_do you have the debs available?  we may as well put them up for testers07:59
tepsipakkiI haven't built them, because our gutsy installations break on first boot for some reason08:00
tepsipakkiI mean, they don't boot :)08:01
tepsipakkiI think tormod has made a deb already08:01
tepsipakkiof ati08:01
bryce_arg08:03
bryce_mvo, I don't know of anything simple we could do for 13311808:10
mvobryce_: ok, I will blacklist it then for compiz I think08:15
bryce_you're blacklisting just that particular piece of hardware, or all of -intel?08:16
mvobryce_: just the pci-id of that card08:17
bryce_ahh, ok sounds good08:17
mvobryce_: it should also be only for intel08:17
mvoI think i810 works08:17
bryce_mvo, I didn't see it reported upstream.  If we can get logs and confs, I'll go ahead and report it upstream.08:22
mvobryce_: ng and soren can reproduce it, it should be no problem to get good logs :)08:22
bryce_awesome08:22
bryce_tepsipakki: do you know if tormod has the .debs posted somewhere I could point to?08:30
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tepsipakkibryce_: yes, the link is on the XorgOnTheEdge (or similar) wikipage08:37
tepsipakkiright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge08:38
bryce_thanks08:38
bryce_testing... brb08:44
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bryce_huh, that definitely changed multi-head detection08:52
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tepsipakkibryce_: the new ati?08:55
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ubotuNew bug: #144103 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "window title is white when window is maximized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14410309:17
ubotuNew bug: #139726 in xorg (main) "[Gutsy} GDM is missing menu items" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13972609:21
tepsipakkibryce_: still testing?-)09:23
bryce_yeah09:24
tepsipakkibryce_: was that last comment about the new ati?09:24
bryce_yup09:24
tepsipakkifor better?09:24
tepsipakki+changed the multihead09:25
bryce_well, I'm testing dual-cards (i.e. triple-head), and it doesn't work yet09:25
bryce_dual-head works ok09:25
bryce_although I had to tweak my xorg.conf a little09:25
tepsipakkiyes, static rules need that09:26
bryce_overall it's better, but there's still room to improve09:26
bryce_I've also gotten hit by the tiny font issue09:26
tepsipakkisomewhere it was said that multicard support is indeed not there yet..09:26
bryce_well, tiny fonts in firefox at least09:26
bryce_http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X/09:28
bryce_the first photo is after booting with two Screen sections09:29
bryce_the second is what happened after I went to tty1 and back09:29
bryce_third is kdm09:29
tepsipakkiso the second photo looks good?09:39
bryce_yeah09:49
bryce_hmm, no compiz09:49
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bryce_heya tormod09:50
tormodhi bryce09:50
bryce_tormod, I'm playing with your -ati debs :-)09:50
tormodjust testing out 6.7.194 now09:51
bryce_I almost got 3 monitors - http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X09:51
tormodwow that's some desktop :)09:52
bryce_I'm not sure exactly how you'd use xrandr to arrange the monitor on the other card, since it's got the same name as one of the other monitors09:57
jcristaufrom the reports we got it seems that multi-card setups are broken in xserver 1.409:59
bryce_one other issue I've noticed since after 6.6.3 is that one monitor's display is "fainter" than it used to be.  10:01
bryce_hard to describe, but it's like the contrast is turned up too high10:02
bryce_unfortunately, fiddling with the contrast and other monitor controls has no effect10:02
ubotuNew bug: #144558 in xorg-server (main) "Mouse pointers corrupted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14455810:25
tepsipakkibryce_: 10:37
tepsipakki06:57 < benh> it still does something weird mucking with the backlight intensity10:37
tepsipakki06:57 < benh> I suppose I'll have to fix that at one point :-)10:37
tepsipakki07:02 -!- ctyler [n=chris@global.proximity.on.ca]  has joined #xorg-devel10:37
tepsipakki07:05 < agd5f> benh: i have code in the driver to control the backlight, but it seems not all  oems use the built in controls10:37
tepsipakki07:05 < agd5f> so it's disabled at the moment10:37
tepsipakkimaybe that has something to do with it10:37
bryce_hmm, maybe10:39
bryce_although the brightness isn't an issue; it's just like all the gray got taken out10:39
tepsipakkiah10:39
bryce_anyway, fortunately for xterm you don't need gray ;-)10:39
bryce_launchpad looks really weird without it though10:40
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tormodbryce, I used ppa so now there's amd64 debs as well :)11:04
bryce_nice11:06
bryce_hey, does -nv have xrandr 1.2 support?  I forget11:07
jcristaubryce_: for g80, yes11:07
ubotuNew bug: #144574 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "xserver crash with screens and graphics admin tool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14457411:20
Matirman building a driver from git is a pita11:48
ubotuNew bug: #144590 in xorg (main) "blank screen after start ubuntu live daily build 20070924" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14459011:56
tormodmatir, I was just trying to make a script that does all that. Unfortunately it's not finished.12:01
jcristautormod: as in git-clone ...; cd xf86-video-foo; autoreconf; ./configure --prefix=/usr; make; sudo make install?12:02
tormodMatir: anyway the ati 6.7.194 has everything from git.12:02
tormodjcristau: no, with debian patches on top like in wiki.debian.org/XTips12:03
tormodjcristau: at least make a .deb out of it.12:03
jcristauah. yeah, that's a bit more tricky.12:03
tormodI guess I have to pull debian-experimental and not debian-unstable12:04
jcristaufor testing, just building the driver and installing the _drv.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules is usually good enough though12:04
tormodjcristau: having versioned debs is a must for letting other people do testing12:05
jcristautormod: on your side, sure :)12:06
Matirtormod: so it's still nicely broken :)12:07
tormodMatir: you mean the ati driver?12:08
Matiryeah12:08
MatirI'm just wondering how the driver detects modes... and why it sees a mode that's unusable12:10
tormodif anyone is interested, I attached the almost-working-but-not-yet-there script to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge12:10
bryce_tormod: cool12:11
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tormodgood night12:14
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Matirnight\12:14

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