[07:17] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, I reopened that
[07:18] <tepsipakki> ok, so I'll merge nv and ati.. lets hope they'll make it in beta :)
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #51421 in gtk-qt-engine (main) "GTK applications leading Xorg to huge memory usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51421
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134370 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Video dosen't play correctly in Totem" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134370
[10:31] <mvo> bryce: do you think there will be anything we can do about bug #133118 ? if not I will blacklist it for compiz 
[10:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133118 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "very corrupt X after suspend/resume" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133118
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #144382 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144382
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #144387 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "FFe: a new upstream version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144387
[01:12] <tepsipakki> hmm, no new ati/nv for beta
[01:32] <ubotu> New bug: #105822 in xorg-server (main) "special chars mangled after switch to graphical console" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105822
[02:57] <tormod> bryce: is /etc/gdm/failsafeInstall in use? it looks broken. do you know who wrote it?
[06:50] <bryce_> tormod, I wrote it, and it's no longer in use; we can drop it now.
[06:50] <tormod> bryce, fine. the sed regexps were pretty broken.
[07:51] <mvo> bryce_: have you seen my earlier question about -intel and the texture problem after resume on i855?
[07:56] <bryce_> mvo, no I didn't
[07:57] <bryce_> mvo, I'll look into it
[07:58] <bryce_> tepsipakki: think we'll be able to get them in post-beta?
[07:58] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, hopefully so
[07:59] <bryce_> do you have the debs available?  we may as well put them up for testers
[08:00] <tepsipakki> I haven't built them, because our gutsy installations break on first boot for some reason
[08:01] <tepsipakki> I mean, they don't boot :)
[08:01] <tepsipakki> I think tormod has made a deb already
[08:01] <tepsipakki> of ati
[08:03] <bryce_> arg
[08:10] <bryce_> mvo, I don't know of anything simple we could do for 133118
[08:15] <mvo> bryce_: ok, I will blacklist it then for compiz I think
[08:16] <bryce_> you're blacklisting just that particular piece of hardware, or all of -intel?
[08:17] <mvo> bryce_: just the pci-id of that card
[08:17] <bryce_> ahh, ok sounds good
[08:17] <mvo> bryce_: it should also be only for intel
[08:17] <mvo> I think i810 works
[08:22] <bryce_> mvo, I didn't see it reported upstream.  If we can get logs and confs, I'll go ahead and report it upstream.
[08:22] <mvo> bryce_: ng and soren can reproduce it, it should be no problem to get good logs :)
[08:22] <bryce_> awesome
[08:30] <bryce_> tepsipakki: do you know if tormod has the .debs posted somewhere I could point to?
[08:37] <tepsipakki> bryce_: yes, the link is on the XorgOnTheEdge (or similar) wikipage
[08:38] <tepsipakki> right, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
[08:38] <bryce_> thanks
[08:44] <bryce_> testing... brb
[08:52] <bryce_> huh, that definitely changed multi-head detection
[08:55] <tepsipakki> bryce_: the new ati?
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #144103 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "window title is white when window is maximized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144103
[09:21] <ubotu> New bug: #139726 in xorg (main) "[Gutsy} GDM is missing menu items" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139726
[09:23] <tepsipakki> bryce_: still testing?-)
[09:24] <bryce_> yeah
[09:24] <tepsipakki> bryce_: was that last comment about the new ati?
[09:24] <bryce_> yup
[09:24] <tepsipakki> for better?
[09:25] <tepsipakki> +changed the multihead
[09:25] <bryce_> well, I'm testing dual-cards (i.e. triple-head), and it doesn't work yet
[09:25] <bryce_> dual-head works ok
[09:25] <bryce_> although I had to tweak my xorg.conf a little
[09:26] <tepsipakki> yes, static rules need that
[09:26] <bryce_> overall it's better, but there's still room to improve
[09:26] <bryce_> I've also gotten hit by the tiny font issue
[09:26] <tepsipakki> somewhere it was said that multicard support is indeed not there yet..
[09:26] <bryce_> well, tiny fonts in firefox at least
[09:28] <bryce_> http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X/
[09:29] <bryce_> the first photo is after booting with two Screen sections
[09:29] <bryce_> the second is what happened after I went to tty1 and back
[09:29] <bryce_> third is kdm
[09:39] <tepsipakki> so the second photo looks good?
[09:49] <bryce_> yeah
[09:49] <bryce_> hmm, no compiz
[09:50] <bryce_> heya tormod
[09:50] <tormod> hi bryce
[09:50] <bryce_> tormod, I'm playing with your -ati debs :-)
[09:51] <tormod> just testing out 6.7.194 now
[09:51] <bryce_> I almost got 3 monitors - http://bryceharrington.org/Photos/X
[09:52] <tormod> wow that's some desktop :)
[09:57] <bryce_> I'm not sure exactly how you'd use xrandr to arrange the monitor on the other card, since it's got the same name as one of the other monitors
[09:59] <jcristau> from the reports we got it seems that multi-card setups are broken in xserver 1.4
[10:01] <bryce_> one other issue I've noticed since after 6.6.3 is that one monitor's display is "fainter" than it used to be.  
[10:02] <bryce_> hard to describe, but it's like the contrast is turned up too high
[10:02] <bryce_> unfortunately, fiddling with the contrast and other monitor controls has no effect
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #144558 in xorg-server (main) "Mouse pointers corrupted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144558
[10:37] <tepsipakki> bryce_: 
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 06:57 < benh> it still does something weird mucking with the backlight intensity
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 06:57 < benh> I suppose I'll have to fix that at one point :-)
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:02 -!- ctyler [n=chris@global.proximity.on.ca]  has joined #xorg-devel
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:05 < agd5f> benh: i have code in the driver to control the backlight, but it seems not all  oems use the built in controls
[10:37] <tepsipakki> 07:05 < agd5f> so it's disabled at the moment
[10:37] <tepsipakki> maybe that has something to do with it
[10:39] <bryce_> hmm, maybe
[10:39] <bryce_> although the brightness isn't an issue; it's just like all the gray got taken out
[10:39] <tepsipakki> ah
[10:39] <bryce_> anyway, fortunately for xterm you don't need gray ;-)
[10:40] <bryce_> launchpad looks really weird without it though
[11:04] <tormod> bryce, I used ppa so now there's amd64 debs as well :)
[11:06] <bryce_> nice
[11:07] <bryce_> hey, does -nv have xrandr 1.2 support?  I forget
[11:07] <jcristau> bryce_: for g80, yes
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #144574 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "xserver crash with screens and graphics admin tool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144574
[11:48] <Matir> man building a driver from git is a pita
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #144590 in xorg (main) "blank screen after start ubuntu live daily build 20070924" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/144590
[12:01] <tormod> matir, I was just trying to make a script that does all that. Unfortunately it's not finished.
[12:02] <jcristau> tormod: as in git-clone ...; cd xf86-video-foo; autoreconf; ./configure --prefix=/usr; make; sudo make install?
[12:02] <tormod> Matir: anyway the ati 6.7.194 has everything from git.
[12:03] <tormod> jcristau: no, with debian patches on top like in wiki.debian.org/XTips
[12:03] <tormod> jcristau: at least make a .deb out of it.
[12:03] <jcristau> ah. yeah, that's a bit more tricky.
[12:04] <tormod> I guess I have to pull debian-experimental and not debian-unstable
[12:04] <jcristau> for testing, just building the driver and installing the _drv.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules is usually good enough though
[12:05] <tormod> jcristau: having versioned debs is a must for letting other people do testing
[12:06] <jcristau> tormod: on your side, sure :)
[12:07] <Matir> tormod: so it's still nicely broken :)
[12:08] <tormod> Matir: you mean the ati driver?
[12:08] <Matir> yeah
[12:10] <Matir> I'm just wondering how the driver detects modes... and why it sees a mode that's unusable
[12:10] <tormod> if anyone is interested, I attached the almost-working-but-not-yet-there script to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
[12:11] <bryce_> tormod: cool
[12:14] <tormod> good night
[12:14] <Matir> night\