[08:26] <Kr4t06> Hi, I have Xubuntu Fiesty installed on my laptop, and I can't seem to get sound to work.
[08:28] <Kr4t06> lspci returns my sound card, but it doesn't show up in the volume controls.
[08:30] <The-Kernel> Kr4t06: in the terminal type in alsamixer and turn everything up then try it
[08:31] <Kr4t06> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[08:31] <The-Kernel> wow
[08:32] <Kr4t06> Something went funky with this install, I think.
[08:32] <The-Kernel> ok so there is something wrong with you card/driver, what kind of card is it?
[08:32] <The-Kernel> oh
[08:32] <Kr4t06> NeoMagic MagicGraph256AV Graphics/Audio chipset.
[08:32] <The-Kernel> I wouldn't doubt it, I've had problems like that happen
[08:32] <The-Kernel> ?!
[08:33] <Kr4t06> But, I don't want to have to reinstall all over again.
[08:33] <Kr4t06> The-Kernel: Yeah, I know. It's an older Dell Latitude.
[08:33] <The-Kernel> I've never heard of that, have you looked into ubuntuforum to see if anyone else has had that card?
[08:34] <Kr4t06> It worked out of the box the first two times I installed Xubuntu. It makes me wonder why I left, but I guess I need to reinstall a fourth time. ><
[08:34] <The-Kernel> hrm
[08:35] <The-Kernel> no, I'd play with it for a few days
[08:35] <The-Kernel> google around a bit
[08:35] <The-Kernel> that's what I do when stuff normally works but then jsut stops
[08:35] <The-Kernel> reinstall alsamixer and all the alsa stuff
[08:36] <The-Kernel> unfortunatly I have to go.
[08:36] <The-Kernel> bye!
[10:17] <am^2u> hi , how do i install irda support in xubuntu
[10:18] <am^2u> i installed irda-utils from synaptic but the laptop dosent start then, i have to go to recovery mode , uninstall irda-utils and the it works
[10:19] <am^2u> ya ,sorry got disconneted
[10:19] <am^2u> so any other way to run irda on xubuntu
[10:20] <am^2u> hmm the channel seems quite .. :-/
[10:20] <am^2u> hello ?
[10:22] <am^2u> hi nixternal_
[11:53] <LampoNero> bye
[12:50] <xjkx> on my freezes i cant even open any software :p its a total freeze, my HD leds keep reading fast and i can not move, then i think there is no way to detect whats going wrong
[12:50] <xjkx> If i could open top at least
[12:50] <xjkx> I'd see who is getting the processor for so long
[12:50] <xjkx> or getting much memory
[12:51] <Blank___> actually, i might be able to help with that
[12:51] <Blank___> i had a fedora machine that was running really really slowly, but no clues in the system monitor
[12:51] <Blank___> it turned out i had my eth0 network configuration wrong
[12:51] <Blank___> particularly my dns info
[12:52] <xjkx> why would it freeze a machine
[12:52] <Blank___> i don't know
[12:52] <Blank___> but it was definitely the problem
[12:52] <Blank___> it was trying to access my isp's DNS
[12:52] <Blank___> but i didnt have my real network connected
[12:53] <xjkx> i think if my network wasnt ok i couldnt be here :p
[12:53] <Blank___> oh
[12:54] <Blank___> well i wasn't *on* my fedora box as such
[12:54] <Blank___> i was trying to configure it to use NFS
[12:54] <Blank___> or rather, be an NFS server
[12:55] <Blank___> i was just looking into Xubuntu as an alternative
[12:55] <Blank___> but i'm confused about the iso's
[12:55] <Blank___> what's the difference between "desktop" and "alternative" in the iso's?
[12:55] <xjkx> i believe desktop will have the live
[12:55] <xjkx> The alternative cd is just for installation
[12:56] <Blank___> ah right
[12:56] <Blank___> i pretty much just stumbled on the answer in the website just then :(
[12:56] <xjkx> Blank___: i dont recommend you to apt-get dist-upgrade, i think it was my problem, i am probably with unstable packages
[12:56] <xjkx> as gutsy is not out yet
[12:57] <Blank___> ah ok
[12:57] <Blank___> would i bother with 7.04?
[12:58] <xjkx> what do you mean?
[12:59] <Blank___> ah wait
[12:59] <Blank___> never mind
[12:59] <xjkx> :)
[12:59] <Blank___> i'm hoping xubuntu is better than fedora
[12:59] <Blank___> and so far it appears to be a much more viable alternative
[01:00] <xjkx> I like xubuntu more than fedora
[01:00] <Blank___> the fedora 7 live cd needs 256mb ram!
[01:00] <xjkx> ehehehe welcome to the lightweight country
[01:00] <Blank___> the normal version also needs something like that
[01:00] <Blank___> yeah
[01:00] <Blank___> i really wanted a *nix box to test php scripts on
[01:01] <Blank___> but fedora doesnt appear to be the best option
[01:01] <Blank___> i've had a lot of problems with it
[01:01] <xjkx> like what?
[01:01] <Blank___> wireless dongle for one
[01:01] <Blank___> NFS server problems
[01:01] <Blank___> SELinux problems
[01:01] <Blank___> Firewall problems
[01:02] <xjkx> it uses iptables right? what was the problem with it?
[01:02] <Blank___> it wasn't that
[01:02] <Blank___> it was configuring ports
[01:02] <Blank___> the gui was useless for custom ports
[01:02] <Blank___> i had to add it to a conf file
[01:03] <xjkx> Uhmm. I saw no attractive in fedora, really
[01:04] <Blank___> yeah
[01:04] <Blank___> that gui i'm referring to is this firewall configuration tool
[01:04] <Blank___> i can't do much in it
[01:04] <xjkx> do you remember the name of this gui?
[01:04] <Blank___> no
[01:04] <Blank___> but i'll go check
[01:05] <xjkx> wait, i think i know the name
[01:05] <Blank___> i'm pretty sure it was a python thing
[01:05] <xjkx> its errm...firestarter? not sure if its python thing
[01:06] <Blank___> i'll have a look
[01:07] <Blank___> i dont know the file name
[01:08] <Blank___> but it's listed as "Firewall and SELinux
[01:08] <xjkx> nevermind :] 
[01:08] <Blank___> "
[01:08] <xjkx> uhmm
[01:08] <Blank___> and then comes up as "Security Level Configuration"
[01:08] <Blank___> and by custom ports i meant "other ports"
[01:08] <Blank___> i can't add any
[01:08] <Blank___> nor can i disable the firewall
[01:09] <xjkx> oh that sucks
[01:10] <xjkx> I'd have checked if iptables had any rules by iptables -L, maybe it was using iptables, i frankly don't know much about selinux
[01:10] <Blank___> i was thinking it might have something to do with the SELinux config
[01:10] <Blank___> but i can't do much about it
[01:10] <Blank___> so, in short, it's been a bad experience
[01:10] <Blank___> i'm hoping xubuntu can help me out
[01:10] <Blank___> and be a better example
[01:12] <xjkx> I hope it feedsl your needs :)
[01:12] <xjkx> feeds*
[01:13] <xjkx> Blank___: have you tried other distros other than fedora ?
[01:13] <Blank___> no
[01:13] <Blank___> i have red hat 9
[01:13] <Blank___> from a long time ago
[01:13] <Blank___> but that wasn't really that good
[01:14] <xjkx> It's always a good idea to know other distros ;)
[01:15] <xjkx> If I had to use rpm based I'd use mandriva, not fedora
[01:16] <xjkx> brb
[01:17] <Jester45> if i had to use rpm based id download DSL and burn it right away
[01:17] <Jester45> then get a xubuntu copy once dsl is booted
[01:23] <Blank___> i was hoping to get a look at other distros
[01:23] <Blank___> but i'm limited by my download speed
[01:23] <Blank___> and limits
[02:35] <Michael_Ubuntu> how to view pictures on mutt?
[02:35] <Michael_Ubuntu> thanks
[03:56] <karel> Is it possible to remap the shortcuts for window management (mainly move window to enxt desktop etc.) of xfce?
[03:56] <vinze> I thought so... Wait a minute.
[03:57] <vinze> karel, in Applications->Settings->Window Manager Settings, you go to the Keyboard tab where you create a new profile
[03:58] <karel> yes, did that
[03:58] <vinze> You should then be able to edit the shortcuts
[03:58] <karel> well yes, you can set commands there, but I've no idea what the commands are that are used standard...
[03:59] <vinze> Aren't they already set by default?
[04:00] <karel> it's ctrl + end to move to next desktop
[04:01] <vinze> I don't have Ctrl+End set anywhere...
[04:01] <karel> that's my point, I have no idea how I could remap it...
[04:02] <vinze> You also don't have it set?
[04:02] <karel> no, it's standard configuration
[04:02] <TheSheep> karel: just create a new profile
[04:03] <TheSheep> karel: at the top left
[04:03] <vinze> karel, could you post a screenshot or something?
[04:06] <karel> When I have a window (focus) and I press ctrl + alt + end (my bad, forgot the alt), the window moves to the next virtual desktop. I can set in keyboard preferences shortcuts for terminal commands (I've set ctrl + alt + t == gnome-terminal for example), but I don't know if it's possible to do this for ctrl + alt + end (don't know the command)...
[04:06] <vinze> No, karel, not the keyboard shortcuts
[04:06] <vinze> You need to go to Applications->Settings->Window Manager Settings
[04:06] <vinze> And *then* the Keyboard tab
[04:07] <karel> oh excuse me, I overlooked, thanks a lot :D
[04:07] <vinze> ;-) No problem
[04:08] <karel> btw, I come from an ubuntu install, suppose I want to use xfce exclusively, what do you guys suggest I do? (remove gnome stuff? nothing? ...)
[04:09] <vinze> I think a fresh install, but I recall there was this post that would help you get a clean Xubuntu
[04:09] <vinze> Wait, I'll look it up
[04:14] <vinze> karel, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[04:15] <karel> thanks :)
[04:26] <karel> when you turn off xubuntu and restart it, does it open up the applications you had and does it "remember" where you where? (when you typed something in office but didn't save)
[04:26] <vinze> It could re-open your applications but they might not recover what you did
[04:27] <vinze> (Though I think OpenOffice might remember)
[04:27] <karel> yeah well, thought it maybe was some replacement for hibernate
[04:27] <vinze> Not really, no
[04:28] <karel> When one hibernates, does the system write what's in the ram memory to the swap partition?
[04:28] <vinze> To the hard drive I think, but I never hibernate so I wouldn't know
[04:28] <karel> yeah swap partition is harddrive ;)
[04:29] <karel> but didn't know if it uses swap or it's own partition
[04:29] <vinze> Yeah but I think it erases swap every time on boot
[04:32] <karel> Yesterday I had a lot of trouble with hibernate, and sort of discovered there where problems with my swap partition, different uuid's at different places etc. So I reinstalled ubuntu (let it do it's own partitioning) and hibernate seemed to work, just a few minutes ago it again failed and said not enough free swap space, rebooted and now it seems to do it right again.. :S hope it stays that way
[04:38] <karel> weird thing is, I can't even GET it to use more then my swap partition :p
[05:23] <Joakim> Hey. I have to shut down X server to install nVidia video drivers, but I not know how? Where are the runlevels described in Xubuntu? They are not in /etc/inittab.
[05:29] <karel> "As root, "/etc/init.d/xdm stop" will stop X and keep it stopped until
[05:29] <karel> you "/etc/init.d/xdm start" again."
[05:31] <Joakim> Thank you very much :)
[05:40] <karel> How do I access the wireless roaming mode in xubuntu?
[05:40] <vinze> karel, you mean with NetworkManager?
[05:41] <vinze> En in je CSS is dit raar:
[05:41] <vinze> 	margin: 0px auto;
[05:41] <vinze> 	margin-top: 15px;
[05:41] <vinze> 	margin-bottom: 50px;
[05:41] <vinze> Dat kan net zo goed zo:
[05:41] <vinze> margin: 15px auto 50px;
[05:41] <vinze> O sorry
[05:41] <vinze> Dammit
[05:41] <karel> lol, dacht al vinze :P
[05:42] <vinze> Terrible sorry :(
[05:42] <vinze> *Terribly
[05:42] <karel> and well, in ubuntu you have the icon in systray...
[05:43] <vinze> You had both installed didn't you?
[05:43] <karel> yes
[05:43] <Joakim> I have a problem. I do not have xdm in /etc/init.d/ ???
[05:44] <vinze> karel, then you can add the command "nm-applet" to your autostarted applications
[05:45] <karel> vinze: where do I find them? :S
[05:45] <vinze> Applications->Settings->Autostarted Applications
[05:46] <karel> I'm becomming blind or something :P, thanks
[05:46] <vinze> (And I assume the checkbox for roaming mode is set in Applications->System->Network?)
[05:46] <karel> (yes)
[05:49] <karel> mmmm, suddenly my sound doesn't work :S
[05:49] <karel> (that's including ubuntu)
[05:50] <vinze> That's odd...
[05:50] <karel> indeed, and all sliders look right
[05:50] <karel> (keyboard volume, the icon, ...)
[05:53] <karel> restart didn't help
[06:01] <karel> it works in windows so it aint broken
[06:03] <Joakim> I do not know which is the X server script. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38461/
[06:03] <Joakim> x11 common does not shut down X server. :(
[06:04] <Pumpernickel> `/etc/init.d/gdm stop` will bring down X.
[06:09] <nonlocal> Joakim:  Also if you are tweaking things it can be handy to know that ctrl-alt-backspace will restart gdm
[06:10] <vinze> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace is a lifesaver :)
[06:10] <vinze> Just as Ctrl+Alt+Esc
[06:12] <Joakim> I knew, that Ctrl+Alt+Backspace log out of X session and I have used is quite a lot.
[06:13] <karel> if I start in 2.6.20-15 kernel, sound works fine...
[06:15] <karel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/136308
[06:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136308 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Sound doesn't work on ATI SB450 HDA Audio using 2.6.20-16 kernel (but 2.6.20-15 works fine)" [Medium,Triaged] 
[06:15] <karel> seems like that
[06:15] <karel> but I see no solution :(
[06:50] <karel> restart in -15, restart in -16, sound works.... weirdness
[07:03] <PeP`> hello... how do I completely remove the xubuntu desktop and all its associated programs? I switched to kubuntu for a test, but now I have a mix of programs from both distributions... I tried to apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but it only removed the 40k metapackage...
[07:03] <PeP`> any ideas? :-)
[07:04] <PeP`> oh ok.. I forgot the purge command
[07:05] <hyper__ch> PeP`: google fro "ubuntu psychocat" --> it's all listed there
[07:05] <karel> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[07:06] <PeP`> thanks
[07:08] <PeP`> karel: this still only unsinstalls the metapackage, not al the other associated programs
[07:09] <karel> PeP`: there's a list of all the bundled apps?
[07:09] <karel> on the page I'm refering to
[07:09] <PeP`> well your link shows me how tp remove the ubuntu/kubuntu apps butnot for Xubuntu :P
[07:11] <karel> oh yeah, my bad :P
[07:11] <hyper__ch> PeP`: you could have a look at the other links there ;)
[07:11] <karel> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:12] <PeP`> karel, hyper__ch: sorry, I should have searched a bit further :$
[07:12] <PeP`> thx
[08:07] <hyper__ch> !nobootsplash
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nobootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <nonlocal> hyper__ch:  You've reminded me, I often wanted to turn the boot splash off, how would I do that?
[08:50] <hyper__ch> edit the grub menu.lst
[08:51] <hyper__ch> for the according entry remove the "quiet" option and change "splash" to "nosplash"
[08:51] <nonlocal> thanks.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> should beable to just remove the word splash and it will do the same
[09:22] <sam_w> ?
[09:22] <sam_w> ?help
[09:22] <sam_w> oops
[09:22] <sam_w> sorry.
[09:35] <sam_w> Hey
[09:36] <karel> hi
[09:36] <sam_w> Anyone know how to get the KDE kicker running without having to install KDE?
[09:44] <egx0r> I'm in the process of making a bootable USB disk from the LiveCD. I have searched for guides on this, but the ones I have found is only on installing to the USB disk. Any hints?
[09:46] <karel> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/install-ubuntu-from-usb/ -> seem some suggestions in the comments?
[09:48] <LampoNero> is possible to remove the xubuntu xfce 4.4.0 and install the new xfce version on it?
[09:48] <LampoNero> if  yes how?
[09:50] <egx0r> karel: Thank you for the link!
[09:50] <karel> you're welcome
[09:51] <sam_w> hi
[10:40] <mweichert> hey, I got fusion working without any problems with xfce - but I want xfwm back
[10:40] <mweichert> is there anyway I can have a fusion wall or cube with xfvm?
[10:40] <mweichert> oops, xfwm
[10:59] <kilonux> hello anybody knows how to check what sessions are open, I am in  sudo telinit 1 modus