[01:27] yep [01:27] so. [01:27] how goes it FatDave [01:27] i've just added mythweb auth support to the control centre. \o/ [01:31] i'm not bad. I have a xorg log with the error in it [01:31] and I know you must be dying to see it :) [01:31] alright, lets see it [01:31] http://pastebin.com/m5c55e543 [01:32] you need to install the correct version of nvidia-glx [01:32] ok, and you installed the proprietary driver? [01:33] i installed the restricted drivers. nvidia-glx [01:33] oh. [01:33] thats what they told me to do in #ubuntu [01:33] looks like it's loading the nvidia GLX but there's no nvidia X driver. [01:33] hmm [01:33] that's odd [01:33] what card again? [01:33] please put your xorg.conf up somewhere [01:33] yes, lets see xorg.conf [01:33] should be in that log somewhere [01:34] the card that is [01:34] I'd bet I know the issue [01:34] would be easier if you just told us [01:34] lets see xorg.conf [01:34] after staring into the intarwebs for 12 hours, it gets hard to make out detail in text :> [01:34] i bet it's not using the nvidia driver in xorg.conf [01:34] line 255 [01:35] I can't get to the xorg.conf for a bit. First I have to regen it, since it gets overwritten every time I reboot. then I can post it on paste bin. My wife is freaking out over some damn sex in the city preview :P [01:35] it's really awesome that nvidia ships their own glx/gl libs. [01:35] i'll get it asap though [01:35] k [01:35] FatDave needs to learn about ssh [01:36] i know about it. its just not enabled on that box right now :) [01:36] oh. whats with the vnc server thing in myth-centre? [01:37] superm1: back? [01:37] I enabled that once and it wouldn't let me log in. gave authentication errors [01:37] file a bug :) [01:37] then I turned it off and the built in gnome desktop vino wouldn't work [01:38] what language do you guys use for all this crap? [01:38] just curious as I'm a software engineer myself [01:38] german, mostly [01:38] oh [01:38] python, pytk and glade [01:38] for the control centre [01:38] python! rad [01:39] I wrote cgipy.py back in my college years [01:39] www.cgipy.org [01:40] its just a cgi.pm clone for python [01:40] nift [01:40] y [01:40] since the built in cgi python stuff was lacking a bit [01:40] you dont wanna help us with the control centre by any chance? :) [01:40] if not using mythbuntu ISO, what is the proper way to install mythbuntu? [01:41] just get the control center? [01:41] and go from there? [01:41] yes [01:41] I would not be apposed to helping. but i've never worked on a linux dist. before [01:41] FatDave: oh, the control centre is easy to understand [01:41] so their might be a little bit of learning involved is all I mean :) [01:41] heh [01:42] you guys using svn or anything? [01:42] we mostly use bzr [01:42] wait a a second [01:42] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu [01:42] ^^ that's most of our code [01:43] oh. wife is done. i'll get that conf now..... [01:44] god, i wish launchpad was more intuitive for me [01:45] FatDave: if you wanna help us a bit, you should talk to superm1. he knows that's there to do. mostly small tasks since we're getting ready for a release :) [01:45] i gotta go to bed now, 1:40am here [01:45] have a nice day [01:45] ok. i'll try and catch up with him [01:45] gnight [01:46] http://pastebin.com/d385cf5dd [01:47] superm1: ok, mythweb auth is working in the control centre. it's a big rough still because it#s not using the save/restore framework. i'll fix that tomorrow and add some dpkg-reconfigure magi [01:47] interesting. you are using the nvidia driver.. :/ [01:48] anyways, tgm4883_laptop will need to take over now. i'm out [01:48] ok. thanks :) [01:49] whats this say [01:49] glxinfo | grep direct [01:51] damn machine is hosed....gotta reboot it [01:54] i can't figure out how we got it to work that one time yesterday ! :D [01:59] hmm [02:00] well, keep in mind that i'm running on the nv driver right now [02:01] Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". [02:01] ok [02:02] it seems i have more kernel updates. will that blow away my lirc again? === Mersault [n=Mersault@TOROON02-1178071093.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:02] im not really sure why it blew it away in the first place, unless the kernel modules were not available when you upgraded [02:03] lirc should be able to handle being upgraded [02:04] could be. i don't know how that -386 kernel got installed in the first place. probably some bad addition to the sources.list that I made [02:04] very strange [02:04] any exotic hardware? [02:05] nope. its a box that is a couple of years old even [02:06] but i haven't seen that -386 kernel come up again. so its probably something that i screwed up. I won't worry about that for now [02:08] i'm mostly just wanting to get the nvidia drivers to work [02:08] ok [02:08] and we are on the nv driver now [02:08] and the nvidia-glx driver is installed [02:09] and this is an install from ubuntu gutsy or mythbuntu [02:11] gutsy [02:11] i'll tell you my order of ops [02:11] i installed from gutsy iso [02:11] then did all the updates [02:11] which cd did you download? [02:12] then enabled the restricted driver [02:12] then installed myth centre [02:12] uh....let me look [02:13] PC (Intel x86) desktop CD [02:13] i think i downloaded that one [02:13] ok [02:15] give me the output of lspci and uname -a again === MythbuntuGuest30 [n=Mythbunt@65-119-209-114.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:17] 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce [02:17] GPU] (rev a3) [02:17] Linux mythtv1 2.6.22-12-generic #1 SMP Sat Sep 22 18:14:28 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [02:17] ok [02:20] weird huh [02:20] its like my system just doesn't want to play nice [02:22] i have a problem I was hoping someone could help me out with? [02:22] very weird [02:22] MythbuntuGuest30, whats the problem [02:23] FatDave, were using the nv driver now? [02:23] well, there are two things, i don't know if they're related or not... [02:23] yup [02:23] i can't get X running with the nvidia driver [02:23] FatDave, what was the nvidia-glx driver giving you trouble with that we switched back [02:23] ah [02:23] error messages? [02:24] 1. when I try and schedule a recording in mythweb or through the tv like normal, my selections never stick [02:24] the shows never get recorded, never show as be scheduled to be recorded [02:25] MythbuntuGuest30, error messages? [02:25] 2. mythtv will kick me out of what I'm doing periodically and take me back to the main myth menu. watching live tv or a dvd after about 20 minutes or so. this is a BE/FE system [02:25] any ideas? [02:31] were you asking me about error messages tgm? [02:32] yes [02:32] both you and MythbuntuGuest30 [02:32] oh. sorry. just the errors posted in that first pastebin xorg.log [02:36] you get those errors when you use the nvidia-glx driver? [02:37] ya. those errors are when my xorg.conf looks like the one I pasted on pastebin [02:40] i don't get anything really other than "writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket [02:44] MythbuntuGuest30, are you able to schedule from the frontend? [02:44] nope [02:45] MythbuntuGuest30, is this a standard mythbuntu install? [02:45] FatDave, you have an nvidia mx onboard right [02:46] ya [02:46] it's the alpha 4 release, freshly reinstalled. I reinstalled hoping to fix, but the same problem has come up [02:54] FatDave, what updates are available regarding xserver or nvidia [02:54] MythbuntuGuest30, is this on a new db? [02:55] none. just today's kernels [02:55] hmm [02:57] MythbuntuGuest30, can you start the frontend from a terminal, then watch some tv or try to schedule a program. Hopefully it will show an error that you can post [02:57] MythbuntuGuest30, also, can you pastebin your /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [03:00] FatDave, i'm not trying to pawn you off, but you might want to poke around in #ubuntu+1 as this seems to be an issue with Ubuntu and your hardware. You might also want to file a bug report against it [03:00] ok. i've never posted a bug report though [03:00] I don't really know how to do it [03:01] ok, wel poke around in #ubuntu+1 first, they may have an answer for you [03:01] ok. thanks for trying [03:04] sorry, i was off googleing the problem, i'll give it a shot === mindframe- [n=mindfram@ip72-207-244-33.br.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:10] i'm back [03:10] whoops looks like laga wanted me earlier [03:10] i'll have to merge his changes here and see how it looks :) [03:13] um laga, you commited them right? Tree is up to date at revision 50. [03:14] hey tgm. one more question [03:14] i have a hauppauge 500 [03:14] ok [03:14] when i'm recording something and watching live tv, i don't hear sound. what did i forget to do? [03:15] do you have sound outside of mythtv? [03:15] i think so. and i have sound in mythtv when I'm only using one of the tuners [03:15] and i was just watching a dvd from inside mythtv (using totem i think) and that had sound [03:16] hmm [03:16] do you have sound with just watching live tv? [03:16] i do. but only if the other tuner isn't recording something [03:16] superm1, comments on this issue and the pvr-500? [03:16] probalby the most bzr thing i've heard? [03:16] try playing back your recordings? [03:16] its might be something dumb like i forgot to enable sound for the second tuner or something [03:17] are there sounds there? [03:17] i'll try and play a recording [03:17] yea, can you record on both at the same time and then try watching and making sure both have sound [03:18] yup. sound in the recording [03:18] in both? === Binary_Crap [i=1010101a@gateway/tor/x-0ab3d0520877e4a1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:22] no sound on second recording [03:23] ok [03:23] and your using your tuners on both, not composite? [03:24] ya. tuners [03:24] sorry i'm such a headache for you guys :) hehe [03:25] bad card? [03:27] cripes. that better not be it [03:28] i'll ask in #mythtv-users === MythbuntuGuest01 [n=Mythbunt@ip-152010169233.student.appstate.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:33] hm. if my memory serves, was there a package called ivtv-controls or something like that? [03:33] you mean ivtv-utils [03:34] yea. maybe that. whats that do? i've been reading some forums and it appears that maybe my second tuner is muted [03:34] but i mean the default settings for the tuners is to have audio enabled [03:34] there is a utility that ships with that that may let you try to unmute it (if that's the case) [03:34] but if it is, i dont know how it would have been [03:36] is ivtv-utilities ivtvctl? [03:37] its a utility that ships in the package [03:37] yes [03:38] its also going to install libconfig-inifiles-perl, and libvideo-ivtv-perl === Mersault [n=Mersault@TOROON02-1178071093.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === bendailey [n=Jackie@64.20.65.84] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:08] how do i find out the version of my ivtv drivers? [04:08] its in dmesg [04:09] gutsy comes with 1.0.0? does that sound right? [04:10] [79258.036000] ivtv: version 1.0.0 (2.6.22-12-generic SMP mod_unload 586 ) loading [04:10] sounds right [04:13] is there a freenode room for ivtv? [04:13] found it [04:17] Daviey: ping [04:18] bendailey, he's likely in bed already [04:18] as its roughly 3:20am by him [04:18] superm1: thanks [04:19] superm1: is Daviey the build host for the isos? is that why we are pointing cdimages at him? [04:19] bendailey, but if you can update the dns for uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org to 81.91.196.37, i'd appreciate that [04:19] i'm gonna setup the rest of the box later tonight for it [04:19] bendailey, that is the canonical host [04:19] that we just got [04:19] so it will take a majority of the leg work i expect [04:19] ok understand [04:20] do we have bandwidth restrictions there? [04:20] the build host will end up either being that uk.cdimages.mythbuntu.org ip i gave you, or another server from frink_ [04:20] i don't believe there are bw restrictions there [04:21] in your script are you going to account for BW restrictions to keep servers from being chosen completely as they get near their (known) limits, or is it just going to be for weighting which servers are chosen? [04:21] I was planning on doing weighting based on bandwidth allocation so in theory all servers would run out of bandwidth at the same time :) [04:23] ah cool [04:23] superm1: uk is updated and cdimages is created and both resolve correctly for me [04:23] okay cool. [04:23] are there going to be multiple uk mirrors? === Alowishus [n=jpenix@fwsdo.projectdesign.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [04:23] well cdimages. is in the UK too [04:24] we'll have to see where our demographic comes from mostly at the announce of the next cd [04:24] to figure out where we need more mirrors [04:24] so we'll see what google analytics spits out info wise [04:24] superm1: we should end up with some decent logs in mysql for the number of hits each mirror take and for what files [04:25] bendailey, do you have an account setup with our google analytics? [04:25] it monitors that already for us [04:25] I can also set it up to record country code and/or ip address [04:25] oh with which server is chosen [04:25] no we dont see that [04:25] but the hits and where they come from we see [04:26] superm1: would it be helpful to see the info paired? [04:27] well personally i dont think so [04:27] request ip/country, file(s) download and serving mirror [04:27] i mean it's probably not worth the extra effort [04:27] but the requesting location and serving mirror can probably be useful [04:28] superm1: not a problem I will attempt KISS [04:28] google analytics will at least show the requesting location for every click [04:28] which is probably the most important part === dwestendorf [n=dwestend@ip72-213-59-173.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:29] hey [04:30] anyone around to help me out? [04:30] hm. superm1. i see you've tried to help someone on the upbuntu forums with the same problem I have [04:30] I have a google account what does it take to get into anaylytics [04:30] bendailey, i think i've got your info in my google chat, let me add you to the analytics account [04:30] FatDave, have i now? [04:30] dwestendorf: helo [04:30] FatDave, what's the issue you're having exactly? [04:30] dwestendorf: hello [04:31] !ask | dwestendorf [04:31] dwestendorf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=392301 [04:31] lol good point, waste of time [04:31] FatDave, so your issue is something related to errors with firmware loading? [04:32] FatDave, can you pastebin your dmesg output? [04:32] !pastebin | FatDave [04:32] FatDave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:32] ok, i've been getting kicked out of live tv and dvd's [04:32] "kicked out"? [04:33] i ran the frontend from the command line and pasted the info at: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/38515 [04:33] yeah, bumping me out to the main menu [04:33] in this case, completely kicking me out of the frontend [04:35] is there a way to select all lines in vi? [04:35] are your recordings really in /media/media/recordings ? [04:35] in my mythbackend.log i'm getting a lot of writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket errors [04:35] yes they are [04:35] FatDave, well really only need the info between the two blocks of START IVTV and END IVTV [04:36] it's an lvm mounted in /media/media (i know, bad naming) [04:36] dwestendorf, well so can you see if say /media/media/recordings/1037_20070924174757.mpg really exists? [04:36] or if any filed are actually there? [04:36] *files [04:36] oh sure [04:36] bendailey, okay visit http://www.google.com/analytics [04:36] and you should see our account there when you log in [04:36] yes it's in there === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-251.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:37] bendailey, and once your logged in, if you choose the "View Reports", and then Goals section [04:37] you can see how many people download ISOs [04:37] superm1: sweet thanks [04:37] and it shows a lot of stuff [04:37] you'll see [04:38] dwestendorf, can you check /var/lib/mythtv/mythbackend.log? [04:38] is it having similar issues? [04:38] nope, nothing in there similarly, just a bunch of the above mentioned errors [04:39] is similarly even a word? lol [04:39] superm1: http://pastebin.com/d3b9a5ef3 [04:39] gtg === bendailey [n=Jackie@64.20.65.84] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [04:40] dwestendorf, something funky is setup here then. [04:40] are these on the same box? [04:40] they seem to be [04:40] but are they? [04:40] yes they are on the same box [04:43] FatDave, that log looks good [04:43] no errors i see [04:43] correct [04:45] i'm seeing posts all over about how these cards come set up wrong for ntsc. i just can't figure out how to change the settings! haha [04:47] i'm also having another problem that i mentioned here earlier that may be related... [04:48] dwestendorf, did that problem with kicking you out start randomly? [04:48] as in things worked for a bit? [04:48] i can't schedule recordings. i can make my selections, but nothing gets saved, nothing ever gets recorded [04:48] this sounds like a broken database [04:49] I just reinstalled yesterday, so no it didn't work for long [04:49] is there a way to drop the db then bring up a new one? [04:49] yeah [04:50] look up the syntax for dropping a database in google [04:50] ok no problem === Mersault [n=Mersault@TOROON02-1178071093.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:50] then just create a new one and point mythtv towards it? or do i need to import tables or anything? [04:52] wonder if disabling the sound server would fix it? [04:52] well the new one should be made when you start mythtv-setup [04:52] FatDave, doubtful, if the issue is in the recordings === Binary_Crap [i=1010101a@gateway/tor/x-f7dbc11414611b4d] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:53] dwestendorf, and if its not, you can just reinstall mythtv-database [04:53] and it will recreate it [04:54] ok, let me give that a shot! [04:56] well, only on that one tuner though. so all signs point to it being muted, if I could just figure out how to play with that setting === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Netslayer [n=chris@208.66.26.82] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:59] where is mythfrontend started from? i need to add a log output to it [05:04] well, good news is that the kernel update didn't break anything more than it already was :) [05:07] superm1, did you already take a look at my nvidia problem? [05:07] i can't remember [05:07] i did a kernel update earlier that was corrupt, now my system has a broken kernel package that i can't get rid of.... [05:08] undo would be nice right about now then eh? [05:08] can't you boot into your previous kernel? [05:09] yeah, i'm in my previous kernel, but synaptic sees the broken package and won't let me install anything else until its fixed. of course fixing the broken package doesn't work either... [05:09] undo would be nice... [05:14] superm1, I dropped the DB, then recreated a new one, and it's still kicking me out [05:16] well, the recording issue is fixed [05:16] i can schedule recordings, but it kicks me out of the frontend after a few seconds.... [05:17] dwestendorf, did you ever install another package (from source or anything like that) [05:17] or from a third party repo? [05:17] um.... some dvd codecs, but other than that no [05:22] okay well from what repo though [05:23] because if its also keeping a libmyth or something there [05:23] something media.... [05:23] debian multimedia? [05:23] let me check.... [05:23] nope.... it was the one recommended on the ubuntu site for restricted formats [05:24] okay medibuntu [05:24] yeah! [05:29] any bad packages in there that you know of? [05:36] no [05:36] all of those should be okay [05:36] those are all supported [05:36] i'm wondering what else can be causing your segfaults though [05:39] i'm clueless.... [05:40] can you open up synaptic, and see if there are any items listed in the 'local packages' subsection? [05:40] sure, one sec [05:43] superm1, look at the first section on this page about the interrupts. Thats what my xorg.log says. any ideas how to do what it suggests? Its an onboard card. http://http.download.nvidia.com/freebsd/1.0-9629/README/chapter-05.html [05:44] i'm not seeing a local packages subsection... you mean on the left along with all, base system etc right? [05:47] yeah you have to press one of the buttons there [05:48] FatDave, there is the noapic kernel option you can try [05:48] or turn on plug and play in your bios [05:48] i assume noapci kernel option means i have to rebuild? [05:49] i would assume plug and play is turned on, but i'll check [05:49] local/main and local/restricted? nothing but what i ment to install there [05:49] FatDave, no you dont have to rebuild [05:49] its a kernel built option [05:49] dwestendorf, okay as long as you meant them to be there [05:49] hm [05:49] FatDave, kernel *boot* option [05:49] my bad [05:50] does that mean its a setting somewhere? [05:52] FatDave, in your menu.lst [05:52] i have a setting in my bios called APIC mode [05:52] is that what you mean? [05:52] what's that set to right now? [05:52] enabled [05:53] so when i let my box log in like normal, and hit livetv, i can watch it for a minute or so then it restarts x [05:53] FatDave, you can try with it off [05:53] dwestendorf, no compiz or anyhting right? [05:54] hells no [05:55] trying... [05:55] hmm.... [05:57] ivtv0: All encoder MPEG stream buffers are full. Dropping data. [05:58] ivtv0: Cause: the application is not reading fast enough. [05:58] dwestendorf, you have got the oddest issues here [05:59] thats a pretty good summary of my life... lol [05:59] thanks for working with me to get them figured out though! i really appreciate it. [06:00] are you using LVM you said? [06:01] yep [06:01] and it's formated as XFS === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-201-251.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:02] dwestendorf, are you sure that all the drives are good? [06:03] well, they aren't new, but I haven't had any problems up until now. They both worked fine for me under a normal ubuntu install [06:04] well i'm just thinking back to some transient issues that i had [06:04] and it took me over a month to realize that it all boiled down to one of the drives not keeping up with the lvm setup [06:05] SMART had told me dso [06:07] i'm pointing my recording directory to a non lvm drive, think that will test your theory? [06:07] or should i change something else? [06:08] yeah that would test it [06:09] no dice, it bumped me out again [06:10] how about having the cpu overclocked? any issues caused by that maybe? [06:11] well that can cause issues, but i'd expect more transient items [06:11] like ubuntu freezing in random areas [06:13] okay... [06:18] so i unclocked my proc and while i was in the bios i bumped up my agp apature to 256..... and it hasn't kicked me out yet [06:20] if that was it, i'm gonna kick myself in the nutts and never over clock anything again in my life.... === superm1 hopes that was it [06:46] New bug: #135594 in mythbuntu "XMLTV missing" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135594 [06:50] so yeah, that was it. i also had to drop the db again, wasnt able to schedule recordings again but it's working well now [06:50] haha [06:50] well nothing like the low tech fixes [06:50]