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| raymondjtoth | hi any one here good with edubuntu | 10:31 |
| raymondjtoth | need some help please | 10:31 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:01 |
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| sbalneav | Hey, ogra, you got one of q-funk's thincans? | 03:22 |
| ogra | yep | 03:22 |
| ogra | two actually | 03:23 |
| ogra | shall i bring them to boston ? | 03:23 |
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| sbalneav | Man, I've been trying to figure out why the &^@$# xserver-xorg-video-amd driver segfaults on autodetect. | 03:23 |
| === ogra still hasnt got usable CDs | ||
| sbalneav | oh, no! How come? | 03:24 |
| sbalneav | Still oversized? | 03:24 |
| ogra | no, udeb broken | 03:25 |
| ogra | :( | 03:25 |
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| sbalneav | hum. | 03:26 |
| ogra | yeah | 03:27 |
| ogra | no fun | 03:27 |
| sbalneav | I can't seem to figure out a way to narrow down where exactly the drivers crashing. I've installed the xserver-xorg-core-dbg and -amd-dbg packages, but when it crashes, I still get no useful symbols | 03:27 |
| ogra | meh | 03:28 |
| ogra | asked bryce ? | 03:28 |
| sbalneav | just a hex offset within the driver. | 03:28 |
| sbalneav | I did. He just pointed me at the "debuggingXorg" page, which was useless, because it assumes xorg is running, so you can do either a gdb attach or strace attach to it. | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | this case is different, since xorg doesn't run for long, and when it segfaults, it dies completely. | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | 'cuz we're just doing a -configure. | 03:29 |
| sbalneav | I'm going to idle in xorg-devel today, see if I can spot keithp, and see if he can give me some ideas. | 03:30 |
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| j0ebake1 | I downloaded the daily desktop image yesterday 9/25/2007 and booted it as a LiveCD. The Applications menu didn't work. | 05:26 |
| j0ebake1 | Actually none of the menus worked. | 05:27 |
| j0ebake1 | I could right click on the "Install" icon but the "open" option didn't work. | 05:27 |
| j0ebake1 | I suppose it is better to get tribe5 then install, then update packages? | 05:27 |
| ogra | j0ebake1, can you note your findings on https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu ? | 05:28 |
| j0ebake1 | thanks | 05:29 |
| ogra | it actually should have worked ... (it worked fine here during my test in a virtualbox VM) | 05:29 |
| joebob777as7 | ogra, i'm getting reports of log out issues for the server i set up for my office.. had any issues? they say when they click the log out button it doesn't do anything | 05:33 |
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| j0ebake1 | I burned 2 cds yesterday of that image. I threw them away. I'm trying it within a QEMU vm. Maybe it was a CD issue. | 05:54 |
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| Meshezabeel | heya, just wondering if Edubuntu would consider including a java program as one of its included applications? | 09:13 |
| ogra | Meshezabeel, i guess thats possible if it works with the free java | 09:17 |
| Meshezabeel | na, mainly with sun java as it needs swing etc. | 09:17 |
| ogra | icedtea will likely be included in gutsy so it will be the default on the CD in hardy | 09:18 |
| ogra | icedtea is the free sun java | 09:18 |
| ogra | the new one :) | 09:18 |
| Meshezabeel | oh ok :) | 09:18 |
| ogra | not sure about swing though ... | 09:19 |
| Meshezabeel | guess it depends what portions sun has open sourced ;) | 09:19 |
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| RichEd | hi ogra ... | 09:20 |
| RichEd | & Meshezabeel | 09:20 |
| RichEd | ogra: how's the beta testing looking ? | 09:21 |
| ogra | bad | 09:21 |
| ogra | we're far behind, all others are done so far | 09:21 |
| Meshezabeel | Heya RichEd | 09:21 |
| ogra | i'm waiting for a test install of the latest iso to finish in virtualbox | 09:21 |
| ogra | we didnt have one yet that survived the whole install | 09:22 |
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| RichEd | major problems or just itty bitty buggy bits ? | 09:22 |
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| ogra | major probs | 09:23 |
| RichEd | :( | 09:23 |
| ogra | the installer fixes i did to ltsp are majorly broken ... what works in a test environment doesnt necessarily need to work in the installer :( | 09:24 |
| ogra | all i could do was to disable them piece by piece when i hit them | 09:24 |
| ogra | the current state is that we have two progress bars in the ltsp portion of the installer where the user sees 0% for 10 mins and then it goes on | 09:25 |
| ogra | that was the best i could do | 09:25 |
| ogra | will need fixage next week | 09:25 |
| ogra | (a lot of unplanned extra work :( ) | 09:25 |
| RichEd | can you still get fixes in in between beta and final for that sort of thing ? | 09:26 |
| ogra | for that sort i have to | 09:26 |
| ogra | or drop out ltsp | 09:27 |
| ogra | there were far more issues ... i'll list everything in the meeting | 09:27 |
| RichEd | okay. | 09:27 |
| Meshezabeel | cool, the icedtea looks pretty cool, sounds like swing is now working in it more or less too | 09:27 |
| ogra | the prob was that the isos were completely broken for two weeks due to ernel stuff and openoffice being broken so there was not much testing | 09:28 |
| Meshezabeel | what time is the meeting? | 09:28 |
| ogra | 20:00 UTC | 09:28 |
| RichEd | 32 mins | 09:28 |
| ogra | (~30 min) | 09:28 |
| Meshezabeel | ok :) | 09:29 |
| Meshezabeel | the calendar meeting times at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event don't seem to show up properly at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event ... sigh, have no choice but to use IE right now | 09:30 |
| stgraber | ogra: have you tested the latest edubuntu server builds ? | 09:31 |
| ogra | stgraber, still running ... i'm not at the critical part yet | 09:31 |
| stgraber | ogra: 81% of system install here, ltsp is next | 09:31 |
| ogra | i only have a virtualbox here ytm | 09:31 |
| ogra | that takes its time ... | 09:31 |
| stgraber | ogra: we are 4 testing it on #ubuntu-testing (2xi386 and 2xamd64) | 09:31 |
| ogra | oh, supercool !!! | 09:31 |
| ogra | i'm at 85% here | 09:32 |
| ogra | Meshezabeel, there is an ical file that evolution imports fine ;) | 09:32 |
| stgraber | ogra: no way a VB beats my real HW :) | 09:33 |
| ogra | heh, no | 09:33 |
| ogra | hey, i'm at "Please wait ..." :) | 09:33 |
| stgraber | :) | 09:34 |
| stgraber | ogra: I'm at the interesting part (Building Thin Client System) | 09:40 |
| ogra | here too | 09:40 |
| ogra | you wont see any progress output ... | 09:40 |
| ogra | but it should switch to (compressing thin client image) half way | 09:40 |
| stgraber | indeed, I'm following the install using tty4 | 09:40 |
| ogra | and more important it should finish | 09:41 |
| stgraber | hehe, that'd be a good thing yes :) | 09:41 |
| === ogra just got some dinner ... back for the meeting ... | ||
| RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu_meeting === 18 mins | 09:42 |
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| RichEd | kgoetz, karl, kamping_kaiser, small kangeroo icon and now Bambi_BOFH ? | 09:47 |
| Meshezabeel | there's no #ubuntu_meeting | 09:47 |
| ogra | typo | 09:48 |
| Meshezabeel | lol | 09:48 |
| ogra | - not _ | 09:48 |
| stgraber | ogra: correctly switched to compressing | 09:48 |
| ogra | good | 09:48 |
| Meshezabeel | there we go, tx :) | 09:48 |
| === RichEd imagines a small compressed ogra | ||
| ogra | the only scary part now is the updating of inetd.conf | 09:48 |
| ogra | thats at the very end | 09:48 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 10 mins | 09:50 |
| stgraber | argh, this computer is slow at compressing :) Looks like I'm getting used to Core2Duo and mksquashfs use of SMP | 09:50 |
| ogra | heh | 09:50 |
| stgraber | installing grub | 09:51 |
| ogra | i was considering to use prebuild images but thats to big on CDs | 09:51 |
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| ogra | can you keep the log ? | 09:51 |
| stgraber | yes, I should be able to scp it somewhere | 09:51 |
| ogra | hmm, i dont have the "compressing ..." screen | 09:52 |
| ogra | just blue | 09:52 |
| ogra | but the (virtual) disk is rattling at least | 09:53 |
| stgraber | ogra: http://www.stgraber.org/download/edubuntu-syslog | 09:53 |
| ogra | wow, 2.31M | 09:53 |
| stgraber | it's 2MB large mainly due to mksquashfs flood | 09:53 |
| ogra | yeah | 09:54 |
| ogra | that'll be suppressed completely in the final iso | 09:54 |
| ogra | ah, wow, that log looks sweet | 09:54 |
| ogra | all errors i've seen before the fix are gone | 09:55 |
| ogra | hooray !!! | 09:55 |
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| stgraber | I'll quickly reboot my laptop and use it at thin client, be back for the meeting | 09:57 |
| stgraber | ogra: looks like network interfaces aren't set correctly | 09:59 |
| stgraber | ogra: so dhcp wasn't able to start | 09:59 |
| ogra | hmm | 09:59 |
| stgraber | (/etc/network/interfaces is about eth0 and eth1 when my system has eth2 and eth3) | 10:00 |
| ogra | oh crap | 10:00 |
| stgraber | but I remember that we have a similar bug with some other ISO too | 10:00 |
| ogra | that sounds like they get dynamically named | 10:00 |
| ogra | likely udev's fault | 10:01 |
| stgraber | maybe something wrong with udev and interface naming | 10:01 |
| ogra | heh | 10:01 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:01 |
| ogra | stgraber, you know whats really bad ? ltsp-update-sshkeys requires an update-image run | 10:01 |
| ogra | even though .... | 10:01 |
| ogra | heh ... well, the IP should be right | 10:02 |
| stgraber | yes | 10:02 |
| stgraber | I just manually set the IP and run dhcp | 10:02 |
| stgraber | client is booting now | 10:02 |
| ogra | lets see if you can log in | 10:02 |
| stgraber | syntax error lts.conf line 18 | 10:02 |
| stgraber | (or 12, was only on screen for 1/2s) | 10:03 |
| ogra | hrm | 10:03 |
| ogra | lts.conf is empty | 10:03 |
| ogra | full of comments though | 10:03 |
| stgraber | it's 18 | 10:03 |
| stgraber | btw, I've got "isn't authorized" | 10:03 |
| ogra | likely the last line | 10:03 |
| ogra | yeah, sshkey is wrong | 10:04 |
| ogra | crap | 10:04 |
| stgraber | /etc/ssh/known_hosts is about 172.16.1.2 (internet IP) and "edubuntu" | 10:05 |
| stgraber | nothing about 192.168.0.254 | 10:05 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:05 |
| ogra | a glitch in the udeb i just found | 10:06 |
| ogra | we need to configure the interface first | 10:06 |
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| ogra | we'd never ever had probs with sshkeys if it would have been this order from the beginning, argh | 10:06 |
| stgraber | ok, rebooting so I have irssi on a bigger screen :) | 10:07 |
| JordanC | Hey guys :) | 10:07 |
| RichEd | hi JordanC ... most people are in the meeting | 10:12 |
| JordanC | Sorry, i'll retort | 10:12 |
| JordanC | Also, if you can please support us in #opencurriculum too | 10:14 |
| JordanC | Thanks ! | 10:14 |
| RichEd | JordanC: join the ubuntu-education mailing list and channel and announce that there ? | 10:15 |
| JordanC | Sure, thanks a lot | 10:16 |
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