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[03:22] yep [03:23] two actually [03:23] shall i bring them to boston ? === jessejazza [n=chatzill@host86-132-78-246.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:23] Man, I've been trying to figure out why the &^@$# xserver-xorg-video-amd driver segfaults on autodetect. === ogra still hasnt got usable CDs [03:24] oh, no! How come? [03:24] Still oversized? [03:25] no, udeb broken [03:25] :( === nixterna1_ [n=nixterna@c-67-167-13-198.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] hum. [03:27] yeah [03:27] no fun [03:27] I can't seem to figure out a way to narrow down where exactly the drivers crashing. I've installed the xserver-xorg-core-dbg and -amd-dbg packages, but when it crashes, I still get no useful symbols [03:28] meh [03:28] asked bryce ? [03:28] just a hex offset within the driver. [03:29] I did. He just pointed me at the "debuggingXorg" page, which was useless, because it assumes xorg is running, so you can do either a gdb attach or strace attach to it. [03:29] this case is different, since xorg doesn't run for long, and when it segfaults, it dies completely. [03:29] 'cuz we're just doing a -configure. 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The Applications menu didn't work. [05:27] Actually none of the menus worked. [05:27] I could right click on the "Install" icon but the "open" option didn't work. [05:27] I suppose it is better to get tribe5 then install, then update packages? [05:28] j0ebake1, can you note your findings on https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu ? [05:29] thanks [05:29] it actually should have worked ... (it worked fine here during my test in a virtualbox VM) [05:33] ogra, i'm getting reports of log out issues for the server i set up for my office.. had any issues? they say when they click the log out button it doesn't do anything === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === shriphani_ [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === shriphani_ is now known as shriphani [05:54] I burned 2 cds yesterday of that image. I threw them away. I'm trying it within a QEMU vm. 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[09:17] Meshezabeel, i guess thats possible if it works with the free java [09:17] na, mainly with sun java as it needs swing etc. [09:18] icedtea will likely be included in gutsy so it will be the default on the CD in hardy [09:18] icedtea is the free sun java [09:18] the new one :) [09:18] oh ok :) [09:19] not sure about swing though ... [09:19] guess it depends what portions sun has open sourced ;) === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [09:20] hi ogra ... [09:20] & Meshezabeel [09:21] ogra: how's the beta testing looking ? [09:21] bad [09:21] we're far behind, all others are done so far [09:21] Heya RichEd [09:21] i'm waiting for a test install of the latest iso to finish in virtualbox [09:22] we didnt have one yet that survived the whole install === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [09:22] major problems or just itty bitty buggy bits ? === Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] major probs [09:23] :( [09:24] the installer fixes i did to ltsp are majorly broken ... what works in a test environment doesnt necessarily need to work in the installer :( [09:24] all i could do was to disable them piece by piece when i hit them [09:25] the current state is that we have two progress bars in the ltsp portion of the installer where the user sees 0% for 10 mins and then it goes on [09:25] that was the best i could do [09:25] will need fixage next week [09:25] (a lot of unplanned extra work :( ) [09:26] can you still get fixes in in between beta and final for that sort of thing ? [09:26] for that sort i have to [09:27] or drop out ltsp [09:27] there were far more issues ... i'll list everything in the meeting [09:27] okay. [09:27] cool, the icedtea looks pretty cool, sounds like swing is now working in it more or less too [09:28] the prob was that the isos were completely broken for two weeks due to ernel stuff and openoffice being broken so there was not much testing [09:28] what time is the meeting? [09:28] 20:00 UTC [09:28] 32 mins [09:28] (~30 min) [09:29] ok :) [09:30] the calendar meeting times at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event don't seem to show up properly at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event ... sigh, have no choice but to use IE right now [09:31] ogra: have you tested the latest edubuntu server builds ? [09:31] stgraber, still running ... i'm not at the critical part yet [09:31] ogra: 81% of system install here, ltsp is next [09:31] i only have a virtualbox here ytm [09:31] that takes its time ... [09:31] ogra: we are 4 testing it on #ubuntu-testing (2xi386 and 2xamd64) [09:31] oh, supercool !!! [09:32] i'm at 85% here [09:32] Meshezabeel, there is an ical file that evolution imports fine ;) [09:33] ogra: no way a VB beats my real HW :) [09:33] heh, no [09:33] hey, i'm at "Please wait ..." :) [09:34] :) [09:40] ogra: I'm at the interesting part (Building Thin Client System) [09:40] here too [09:40] you wont see any progress output ... [09:40] but it should switch to (compressing thin client image) half way [09:40] indeed, I'm following the install using tty4 [09:41] and more important it should finish [09:41] hehe, that'd be a good thing yes :) === ogra just got some dinner ... back for the meeting ... [09:42] === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu_meeting === 18 mins === Tirio1 [n=anton@217.25.228.43] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [09:47] kgoetz, karl, kamping_kaiser, small kangeroo icon and now Bambi_BOFH ? [09:47] there's no #ubuntu_meeting [09:48] typo [09:48] lol [09:48] - not _ [09:48] ogra: correctly switched to compressing [09:48] good [09:48] there we go, tx :) === RichEd imagines a small compressed ogra [09:48] the only scary part now is the updating of inetd.conf [09:48] thats at the very end [09:50] === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 10 mins [09:50] argh, this computer is slow at compressing :) Looks like I'm getting used to Core2Duo and mksquashfs use of SMP [09:50] heh [09:51] installing grub [09:51] i was considering to use prebuild images but thats to big on CDs === ogra dances [09:51] can you keep the log ? [09:51] yes, I should be able to scp it somewhere [09:52] hmm, i dont have the "compressing ..." screen [09:52] just blue [09:53] but the (virtual) disk is rattling at least [09:53] ogra: http://www.stgraber.org/download/edubuntu-syslog [09:53] wow, 2.31M [09:53] it's 2MB large mainly due to mksquashfs flood [09:54] yeah [09:54] that'll be suppressed completely in the final iso [09:54] ah, wow, that log looks sweet [09:55] all errors i've seen before the fix are gone [09:55] hooray !!! === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] I'll quickly reboot my laptop and use it at thin client, be back for the meeting [09:59] ogra: looks like network interfaces aren't set correctly [09:59] ogra: so dhcp wasn't able to start [09:59] hmm [10:00] (/etc/network/interfaces is about eth0 and eth1 when my system has eth2 and eth3) [10:00] oh crap [10:00] but I remember that we have a similar bug with some other ISO too [10:00] that sounds like they get dynamically named [10:01] likely udev's fault [10:01] maybe something wrong with udev and interface naming [10:01] heh [10:01] yeah [10:01] stgraber, you know whats really bad ? ltsp-update-sshkeys requires an update-image run [10:01] even though .... [10:02] heh ... well, the IP should be right [10:02] yes [10:02] I just manually set the IP and run dhcp [10:02] client is booting now [10:02] lets see if you can log in [10:02] syntax error lts.conf line 18 [10:03] (or 12, was only on screen for 1/2s) [10:03] hrm [10:03] lts.conf is empty [10:03] full of comments though [10:03] it's 18 [10:03] btw, I've got "isn't authorized" [10:03] likely the last line [10:04] yeah, sshkey is wrong [10:04] crap [10:05] /etc/ssh/known_hosts is about 172.16.1.2 (internet IP) and "edubuntu" [10:05] nothing about 192.168.0.254 [10:05] yeah [10:06] a glitch in the udeb i just found [10:06] we need to configure the interface first === ogra slaps forehead [10:06] we'd never ever had probs with sshkeys if it would have been this order from the beginning, argh [10:07] ok, rebooting so I have irssi on a bigger screen :) [10:07] Hey guys :) [10:12] hi JordanC ... most people are in the meeting [10:12] Sorry, i'll retort [10:14] Also, if you can please support us in #opencurriculum too [10:14] Thanks ! 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