=== jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] great [12:43] and now I am going to test my own killer bugs [12:47] Riddell: i386 alt is okay/ 64bit desktop is okay testing the rest tomorrow night === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-47-39-199.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [12:59] Riddell: still there? got the patch ready. (had to catch my brother from the airport so it took a while :) [01:00] Goliath23: I am indeed [01:00] put it on a webserver [01:01] or e-mail jriddell@ ubuntu.com [01:01] sure [01:02] Riddell: http://www.vidsolbach.de/tmp/ === jeroenvrp2 [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] the Theme.rc is from kubuntu-default-settings and just adds a correct? value for the ImageSpacing [01:04] the patch is slightly modified to calculate correct positions for the icons depending on their size and the spacing value ... should work for other themes, too [01:04] and it works fine on dual screen setups- [01:05] Goliath23: why did it not work on dual screen before? [01:05] ImageSpacing in the theme was -1 [01:06] and there was an error in the calculation of the next icon position in the for-loop which added the spacing (-1) and then multiplied the value with the calculated ratio between basewidth and desktop width. thus making it too small [01:06] can you test if the patch works for your single monitor setup? [01:07] Riddell: first kde-related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/132000 [01:07] Launchpad bug 132000 in kdebase "Clicking on OpenGL in KInfoCenter freezes up the system in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] [01:07] should though... [01:07] Riddell: shall I add the patches to bug 41407 and ask ppl to test? [01:07] Goliath23: compiling now [01:07] Launchpad bug 41407 in ksplash-engine-moodin "Kubuntu's Ksplash icons are too close to each other" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41407 [01:07] Riddell: kk [01:09] Riddell: there's still a nasty hardcoded "-8" in the code because a certain Dialog.png seems to be a bit off-screen. I don't know if that'll work for other themes too. probably not if they use a different Dialog.png. but at least the icons are centered now... or should be [01:09] Goliath23: horribly broken I'm afraid http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ksplash.png [01:09] damn :) [01:09] did you replace the Theme.rc? [01:09] no [01:09] what with? [01:10] with the one on the webserver [01:11] Goliath23: better, but still not great http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ksplash1.png [01:12] Just testet it. I forgot, that I changed the base resolution in the theme while testing. [01:13] Riddell: okay, sorry about that. will fix it :) [01:14] I need to sleep now [01:14] uhm, think i know... [01:14] okay. [01:14] unless you have a quick fix [01:14] hold on [01:15] gimmie 4 min :) [01:16] is the number of icons 8 for every theme? [01:17] yes [01:17] ok [01:18] hm, nah. still missong something :/ [01:18] missing.. [01:19] I'll add the solution to the bug and drop you a note, already taken enough of your time :) [01:21] good luck === Riddell snoozes [01:21] thanks === kwwii is now known as kwwii_away === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] so whats the secret with kdesudo? === jeroenvrp2 is now known as jeroenvrp [02:10] if I do e.g. kdesudo kedit, it starts kedit, but as myself, not as root [02:11] when I do a kdesudo -u testuser kedit, it gives a: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [02:13] Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jeroen" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 [02:13] Error: "/tmp/ksocket-jeroenzvlc9S" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. [02:13] ??! [02:13] I am 1000 [02:14] but it needs to be root somehow [02:14] Riddell: still awake? [02:17] I don't think those directories should be owned by root, so why wants it that === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@123.115.241.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Pitabred [n=pita@c-67-190-48-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495490D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] Heya === apachelogger_ [n=me@N719P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === fabo [i=fabo@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-64-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.179] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] evening Jucato [04:13] goo morning jjesse [04:13] er.. good [04:13] :) [04:13] i forgot what time zone ar eyou in? [04:13] +8 UTC/GMT [04:13] oh so it is morning for you then :) [04:13] yep [04:13] and it's noon for poor Hobbsee :) [04:14] past noon actually [04:14] poor hobbsee [04:14] are you in austrialia ? [04:14] nope. Philippines [04:14] close though hehe [04:14] oh that's right i think i've asked you before [04:15] i'm in michigan US [04:15] :) === Jucato should get a map on the wall and put pins on it :) [04:15] or google earth haha [04:16] my wife and i have a map world map w/ pins colored differently based on palces we've been together, places we want to go and also places we've been seperatly [04:16] and we try to update as we travel [04:16] wow nice [04:16] I'd probably have one and put pins for every developer I know hahah [04:16] our "world" is prettty full., well mostly the US of places we've been [04:17] only been to italy out of the states together, but want to travel more [04:18] I must (embarrassingly) admit I haven't travelled much of our country :( [04:33] sorry went afk was putting wife to bed [04:34] well i haven't been out of the country much myself [04:34] lullaby and good night, go to bed now and sleep tight... lalalalal [04:34] lol === Jucato hasn't been out of the country. period. [04:34] we went to italy [04:34] kinda one of those dream vacations [04:34] I so would like to travel around Finland [04:34] hehe [04:34] good mornin'! [04:35] Jucato: I havent seen much more than three cities around here [04:35] mornin nixternal!!! :) [04:35] heh [04:35] Tm_T: oh you are worse then :) [04:35] and even those mostly just what I have must seen [04:36] and I'm old! [04:36] yeah.. right... :) [04:36] I am [04:36] ooh finland has a new UMPC... looks like a Sony VAIO UX :) [04:36] Its hard for Microsoft to commit to what comes out of Ecma [the European standards group that has already OKd OOXML] in the coming years, because we dont know what direction they will take the formats. Well of course stay active and propose changes based on where we want to go with Office 14. At the end of the day, though, the other Ecma members could decide to take the spec in a completely different direction. ... Since its [04:36] not guaranteed, it would be hard for us to make any sort of official statement. [04:36] ? [04:37] oops sorry [04:37] long quote, but funny :) [04:37] Jucato: sounds like even Microsoft doesnt care to follow their own standard [04:37] yeah [04:38] http://www.techworld.com/storage/features/index.cfm?featureid=3685&pagtype=all [04:38] so, whats the point then, really? just to overpower competition [04:38] and THAT is illegal in many countries [04:38] called "monopoly" [04:38] you know that board game? [04:39] yeah [04:39] and *old* board game :) [04:39] its so illegal [04:39] no, wait ;-P [04:40] you know there is a new version of monoploy where the players get a credit card instead of cash? [04:40] is it called "Real Life" by any chance? :) [04:40] so you don't even have to think or learn on how to count change back, you type in the amount of money and it subtracts yfor you [04:40] or perhaps they should rename the monopoly game to "Microsoft"? :) [04:40] i think everyone should know how to make change [04:41] jjesse: tjats tje american version right? [04:41] 5-2 =... where's the calculator? [04:41] ... I blame new keyboard [04:41] hahah [04:41] yeah theres a "new" version being advertised on tv [04:41] hhh [04:41] I've been heavily mistyping all day [04:42] and I have been heavily sedated all day [04:42] on the couch :) === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] ooh drugs :) [04:42] hahaha [04:42] ooh drugs [04:42] fun === Jucato heard an echo :) === jjesse heard an echo :) [04:42] wait that doesn't work as well [04:42] haha [04:43] so nixternal what's wrong w/ you that u got drugs? [04:43] I don't have drugs [04:43] I just ate to much [04:43] haha [04:43] thought you were heavily sedated all day [04:44] whenever I hear "sedated" I always associate it with animals being tranquilized :) [04:45] Jucato: you mean me? [04:45] well... in this instance it's nixternal :) [04:45] hmh [04:46] hm.. evince has fillable forms now... :( [04:46] evince is... [04:47] is GNOME... [04:47] that makes no sense at all [04:47] hmmm [04:47] you mean Evince is GNOME pdf reader? === Tm_T just guesses from "fillable forms" [04:48] nixternal: ping [04:48] Tm_T: yes [04:48] Jucato: roger and thanks [04:48] sorry didn't think you were asking :) [04:48] the lack of the ? didn't register to me as a question [04:48] heh [04:48] well it wasnt actually a question though it should have been [04:49] well it practically was [04:49] sort of [04:50] "is... (fill the rest)" === n8k99 heard an echo after much delay === Jucato hands n8k99 cotton buds [04:59] thanks [04:59] Jucato you coming to UDS Cambridge? [04:59] nope [05:00] insstead of UDS Boston? [05:00] :) [05:00] wait, that's the one in Nov? [05:00] yes its end of oct beginning of nov [05:00] ok its called UDS Boston- but its actually being hosted in Cambridge [05:00] n8k99: i'll be there [05:00] on MIT campus [05:01] kool === n8k99 still haven't figured it out yet [05:01] dang.. MIT... [05:01] ya, why didn't they call it UDS Cambridge I wonder? [05:01] gonna miss my chance :( [05:01] maybe cause Boston i? dunno [05:02] more people know boston and don't want to confuse people on cambridge england? [05:02] oops add string "better known" [05:02] UDS MIT, USA ? === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEF424.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:03] oh that's so ancronymy [05:03] yeah, like KDE HCI WG :) [05:03] zactly [05:04] KDE is a FOSS DE using Tt's Qt which also runs on BSD, licensed under licenses such as LGPL and GPL [05:06] yeah, spell gonna need to spell some of those words out [05:06] for the little people, ya know === n8k99 counts himself as a little people === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-043-208.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:08] man i love this excel bug 850*77.1 = 10,000 [05:08] Bug 850 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/850 is private [05:08] :) [05:09] O.o [05:11] jjesse: that bug is still around? [05:11] you realize you can still get DoS to say that 2+2 = 5 to this day [05:11] private? [05:11] the excel bug? [05:11] over 20 years, a simple overflow bug is still there [05:11] jjesse: ya [05:11] its on a lot of blogs/mailing lists i've seen today [05:11] maybe its an old bug that is "new" again [05:11] 850*77.1 is the 65535 one right? [05:11] excel 2007 does it [05:11] yeah [05:12] interesting, so they fixed it, broke it, fixed it, broke it, and it goes on [05:12] of course :) [05:12] wow jsut checking my email and for my class in australia they want me to extend it for another week to cover a class in new zeeland as well [05:12] oooh [05:12] sweet [05:12] do we have kiwis here? [05:13] don't know if my wife is going to enjoy the 24hours of travel back by herself cause she doesn't have extra time off work [05:13] aw.. :( [05:13] i usually get my kiwis from the green grocer [05:13] lol [05:13] for some silly reason, somoen told me kiwis were a cross between a banana and a strawberry and i believed them [05:14] lawl [05:14] hehe === Jucato misses kiwi shake... === Tm_T misses svn skills === n8k99 grabs wife and violently shakes her === n8k99 then realizes she is an aussie === n8k99 ducks and runs [05:18] lol === Zanav [i=top@gateway/tor/x-3d62466f0002747b] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@66.251.24.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mluser-work [n=mluser-w@208.178.12.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manckn@12-226-72-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.241.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] wow, that was hard [05:25] simple svn commit and still I was quite lost [05:25] shaking n9k99's wife or ? [05:26] lol [05:27] hm... #kubuntu is neither +r no topic locked. how nicer can we be? :) [05:27] very nice [05:28] Jucato: because we don't have the idiots the other channel has [05:28] yes [05:28] we're lucky :) [05:29] ya, 48s lag and rising [05:29] 52.34 [05:29] so does that mean kubuntu users are more sophisticated? [05:29] but one time the topic was changed w/o being noticed by the correct people [05:29] and we have normalized [05:29] that topic dont get any abuse, weird [05:29] more civilized [05:29] I see those red numbers in irssi, first thing I do is ping google to see if my internet dumped === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] HOBBSEE!!! \o/ [05:30] evening Hobbsee [05:30] afternoon actually :p [05:31] i was just telling the guys that my trip to australia might be extended by a week for a class in new zeeland [05:31] Hobbsee!!! === Tm_T hides from Hobbsee [05:31] jjesse: told ya it was afternoon for poor Hobbsee :) [05:31] I was just wondering, how come sispoty doesn't do Kubuntu stuff? [05:31] jjesse probably just means that there are less of them [05:32] nixternal!!! [05:32] hi jjesse [05:32] Hi Hobbsee [05:32] hi Hobbsee [05:32] (she has got to be the most greeted person in here) [05:33] http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/main.cpp <-- if you feel like cheating your way through some project euler problems :) [05:33] hopefully no one takes offense but she's probablly the best looking here as well [05:33] nixternal takes offense [05:33] you mean !nixternal [05:33] yes, !nixternal [05:33] damn you, I am farkin' secksy [05:33] !nixternal [05:33] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [05:33] ironically, !nixternal in C would be "not nixternal"... [05:33] finally === n8k99 takes defense [05:34] yay [05:34] but that description is definitely !(!nixternal) [05:34] ~nixternal [05:34] isn't that in logic? [05:34] ya [05:34] ! is a horrible negater if you ask me [05:34] hehe.. what choice do we have? :) [05:35] seeing as ~ is a destructor though [05:35] jjesse: sounds like fun :) [05:35] Jucato: :D [05:35] isn't ! used in math for factorial? [05:35] jjesse: *grin* [05:35] nixternal: yep === jjesse thinks Hobbsee is a little lagged this afternoon [05:35] factorial is that the 20*19*18* all the way down to 1 thingie === Jucato pings Hobbsee to check [05:35] see, and seeing as mathematics is the root of all evil, I mean philosophy, it only makes sense :) [05:36] [11:35] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING reply from Hobbsee: 1 second. [05:36] jjesse: being pinged in multiple windows, and dealt with a bit of email :) [05:36] it's all good [05:36] Jucato: you tried to drop Hobbsee ? [05:36] she's probably still busy saying hi :) [05:36] grin :) [05:36] hehe [05:36] oh no, she's too um... btw she ate nixternal yestreday right? :) [05:36] you know it [05:36] i heard if you ping Hobbsee she beats you with a big pointy stick [05:36] wth [05:36] who ate me? [05:36] that would be a lot to eat in 1 day === Hobbsee attacks nixternal with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:36] "hmm.. bugs... Hobbsee chomps" [05:37] hey now, watch that stick! [05:37] that's what she said. so I presumed it was !nixternal [05:37] :) [05:37] I am changing my nick...I am no longer nixternal [05:37] I am going to be.... === Jucato waits for the right moment [05:38] 22:37:57 >>> nixternal #ubuntu Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks marcel === n8k99 reaches for the ignore button === Jucato waves to manchicken [05:38] heh [05:38] !nickspam | vista4life [05:38] vista4life: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [05:38] shush [05:38] oh dear. [05:38] lol [05:38] Jucato: haha [05:38] Hiya [05:38] roflmao [05:38] I am taking flack [05:38] !nickspam [05:38] You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [05:38] :) [05:38] hello manchicken_ [05:38] I'm laughing like a lunatic here [05:39] so who wnats to hear a funny story [05:39] hahahhaha! [05:39] oh wait, what is it/ [05:40] so last night during dinner, which my wife made, i told her my throat felt tight and my eyes started watering, 10 minutes later my eyes were swollen shut along w/ my ears swelling [05:40] apparently i was having an allergic reaction to dinner [05:40] and if you have seen the movie "hitch" with will smith in it, that is excalty how i looked [05:40] aw... :( [05:40] what were you allergic to? [05:41] no clue as it is all stuff i've eaten before [05:41] peanuts? [05:41] I mean what stuff in the dinner [05:41] jjesse: hahahahghahah)#*@)*#@)*# I was just thinking of Hitch [05:41] gahahahah [05:41] hehe [05:41] so we rushed to the emergency room where they pumped me full of drugs [05:41] mmm drugs [05:41] :p === n8k99 hears an echo [05:41] oooh so you were sedated like nixternal [05:41] yeah that was last night [05:42] good stuff? === n8k99 met Joey Ramone a couple times [05:42] haha, I am still picturing that part from hitch === Jucato can't remember when was the last time he was sedated.... [05:42] no clue actually what it was, some steroids and liquid benadryl [05:42] where he is drinking the medicine and is all drunk, trying to sing [05:42] benadryl was will's drink actually [05:42] i was havign problems speaking cause my throat was all swollen up [05:43] hahahahahahahahahaha === jjesse is glad his wife didn't take pictures === n8k99 worked on that movie [05:43] really? that's cool [05:44] original title was really awkward [05:44] "The Last First Kiss" [05:44] oh, now that is corny [05:45] heh [05:45] like corn? [05:45] so corny, I actually started my wedding vows off with it [05:46] if that is true, i am so terribly ashamed for your wife [05:46] x-wife [05:46] hahahahahahahaha [05:46] that damn line didn't work [05:46] oh- didn't see that coming [05:46] lol [05:46] well if you didn't have more then "one last first kiss" with other people.... [05:47] hehehe [05:47] oh well its way past my bedtime, so good night ladies and gentleman [05:47] good night jjesse [05:47] k'night jjesse! [05:47] night jjesse! === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.241.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:50] who here has some pull with the Rosetta admins? [05:50] I am starting to get a little pissed at them [05:51] there are still 7 templates they have uploaded yet for translations [05:51] s/have/haven't [05:51] if they don't do the one, then there will be no main Kubuntu index page that I slaved over dangit === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:53] nixternal: have you whined in #launchpad? [05:53] nixternal: during eu wokring day? [05:54] I have whined every where imaginable [05:55] nixternal: what do they actually have to do? [05:55] approve them or something [05:55] nixternal: if you can give me a paragraph of what you want, and what they have to do, i can attempt to pull some strings [05:55] get them into the templates to be translated, and throw out the sysdocs-index one === Hobbsee has some level of pull within launchpad. a small bit :) [05:56] I will forward you the email I sent to the Rosetta admins [06:00] any idea on when the next kdepim upload will occur? [06:00] I have a new patch to fix a typo when signing/encrypting an email with kmail === stdin [i=stdin@pdpc/supporter/active/stdin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:30] goodnight everyone [06:32] nixternal: when we have a bunch of patches for it? === mars [n=cb@LSt-Amand-152-33-21-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:16] just out of curisity(sp) what is holding armarok2 from being released from build farm? [07:18] build farm? [07:19] buildd [07:20] hasnt gone thru source NEW yet? [07:20] last tie i checked (maybe a week ago it was never send out of new to buildd [07:20] then it's stuck in teh NEW queue. [07:21] nixternal: when will you fix the filterset g stuff? === mars is now known as marseillai [07:22] It's still in New. [07:23] its been there for what like the beginning of september i was just wondering why it was never pushed to buildd or uploaded [07:24] gnomefreak: The archive admins prioritize based on what they think is important and their available time. [07:24] gnomefreak: and it probably never had a uvfe, either [07:24] Maybe after beta they'll have time.... [07:25] Hobbsee: Amarok2 did. [07:25] ah, OK === aplg|mobile [n=me@193.170.67.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:25] Hobbsee: It was uploaded before the freeze, but had another revision uploaded after (same upstream version). [07:26] Hobbsee: filterset g stuff? [07:26] So I covered it in the mass new package exception for all the stuff uploaded before the freeze. [07:26] nixternal: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/99535 [07:26] Launchpad bug 99535 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Suggestion] Change the list of Adblock filters" [Low,Confirmed] [07:26] it was never uploaded to repos atleast apt can find a version of it [07:26] nixternal: i'm looking for stuff to upload to kdebase. [07:26] ScottK: ah, cool [07:26] Hobbsee: OK [07:26] ok night i can finally go to sleep yay for me :( [07:27] nixternal: looks like a whole lot of our docs point to adblock, though [07:27] adblock is fine, the filterset.g stuff though is evil === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:29] nixternal: oh, point. my bad. [07:29] nixternal: what's your opinion on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/107694 too? [07:29] Launchpad bug 107694 in kdebase "ksmserver: check for prelinking" [Undecided,New] [07:30] let me test that and see if it is quicker. I swore I tested prelinking stuff a year or so back and didn't notice a difference [07:32] brb [07:33]