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blueyedHi. The status of the CVS import for https://launchpad.net/b2evolution/trunk is "Processing" since 2007-07-20 now.01:18
blueyedCan somebody take a look at it, please?01:19
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mptGoooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!04:02
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indravenihi all06:50
indraveniis launchpad available for free download ?06:50
indraveniI want to know whether there is a way to install launchpad in our premises and have all the database here , instead of registering our product in launchpad site06:51
ScottKindraveni: It's not Free Software.06:51
stdinyet (hopefully)06:52
ScottKIt either is or isn't.  Once it is, it is, until then, it's not.06:55
Odd_BlokeScottK: I don't think anyone was saying otherwise...06:58
HobbseeScottK's just bitter06:58
stublaunchpad is designed to collaborate between projects, not used in isolation. If you don't want a central database there are probably better options available.06:58
ScottKOdd_Bloke: OK.  I just think the promises are completely irrelevant.  I respect the intent.06:59
ScottKHobbsee: For LP, I'm not bitter.  I'm resentful.07:03
ubotuNew bug: #141028 in rosetta "Translations should have "same as original" option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14102807:11
indravenistub, what are the other options that are available ?07:11
ubotuNew bug: #145078 in launchpad "None of the footer links work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14507807:16
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ScottKHello mpt.07:35
ScottKI do appreciate that my feedback is listened to and makes a difference.07:35
ScottKThe resentful part is the amount of time I end up having to put into it.07:36
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carlosmorning08:43
Hobbseehi carlos 08:54
Hobbseecarlos: you're the translations guy, right?08:54
carlosHobbsee: hi08:54
carlosone of them, yes08:54
Hobbseecarlos: we've got some problems with kubuntu docs with rosetta08:55
Hobbseeany chance you could poke them as required?08:55
carlosyeah, I saw the mails, but didn't have time to handle that, although I was planning to do it today...08:56
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Hobbseethere are still 7 templates they havent uploaded yet for translations, i'm told.08:56
Hobbseecarlos: cool, OK.  obviously, we'd like them done, as they're kubuntu release notes...08:56
Hobbseeso it's rather time critical08:56
carlosyeah, don't worry, this week I'm trying to cleanup the queue08:57
Hobbseecarlos: cool, thanks08:57
carlosalthough having a list of renamed templates would be useful, do you know it?08:57
Hobbseecarlos: i dont, sorry.  the guy has gone to bed now08:58
carlosok08:58
Hobbseecarlos: apparently one is the kubuntu index.08:59
Hobbseebut i dont have info apart from that08:59
carlosthere are 6 templates pending to be imported, three are already auto approved08:59
carlosanother one is there from previous versions so is not a big problem, and there are two others that seem to be renames...09:00
carlosok, I think is easy enough09:00
carlosHobbsee: thanks for remind me it09:00
Hobbseecarlos: no problem, thanks for fixing :)09:00
carlosnp09:00
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mrevellmornin gall09:46
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Hobbseemrevell!09:47
mrevellhey Hobbsee :)09:47
dnearyHi all09:58
mrevellhi dneary09:58
dnearyIs there an official way to send announcements of translations opening to launchpad translators?09:59
dnearyOr is that considered spam of the worst kind?09:59
dnearymrevell: Didn't you leave the LUGRadio crowd?09:59
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mrevelldneary: I certainly did09:59
mrevelldneary: Didn't have time to do everything :)09:59
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dnearyI guess only Jono does...10:00
mrevelldneary: yeah :)10:00
dnearyWhat with his warping space-time10:00
mrevelldneary: Your translations announcement: do you want to send a mail to everyone in a translations team?10:01
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dnearyYup10:03
ubotuNew bug: #145111 in launchpad "Obsolete CVS details much more prominent than real bzr trunk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14511110:05
ubotuNew bug: #145113 in launchpad "Nowhere to register where to obtain releases" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14511310:10
mrevelldneary: There isn't a way to do that directly, at the moment. Obviously you could go through each person's profile and lift the email address from those where it's not hidden.10:12
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mrevelldneary: Let me just double-check there isn't another way, though.10:12
carlosdneary: no, we don't have yet a way to send notifications to the whole team10:14
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darianhi10:17
dariani need a admin10:17
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dariani want to delete my project because lunchpad is not the right thing for our problem10:18
darianplease query me10:18
darianthe project is called "adviki"10:18
mrevelldneary: Yes, sorry, to confirm, there isn't an easy way right now.10:19
mrevelldarian: Hi - please file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion and one of our admins will help you.10:19
darian https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion thx 10:19
mrevelldarian: Could I ask why you feel Launchpad isn't right for you? Perhaps there's some way I can help.10:20
dariani have a wiki10:21
darianand we search a tool for manage the admins and the todos for the wiki10:21
darianbut lunchpad is for "real" softwork with versions and so on10:21
darianis not bad but absolutly false for our problems10:22
darianok?10:24
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darian?10:24
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dnearyOK - thanks Matthew11:05
dneary(back, was away)11:05
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dnearyI'm trying to change the "current development focus" to a series I just created in Launchpad - and I can't figure out where that gets done.11:55
dnearyPerhaps I don't have sufficient permissions?11:55
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dnearyDo I need to be a driver to do that?12:07
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iwjBjornT: Did you manage to figure out what was happening to my mails ?12:36
BjornTiwj: sorry, not yet, i'm a bit busy this week with a sprint, but it's on my todo12:38
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sabdfldneary: which project?01:40
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dnearysabdfl: wengophone02:10
dnearywas away for lunch02:10
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TomaszDcarlos, what is the hack that allows me to view more than 10 strings on one page in rosetta?02:20
TomaszDI know it was something with modyfing the url 02:21
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ubotuNew bug: #145190 in malone "Upstream source import: CVS & SVN text fields disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14519002:21
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noideayetHelp!02:22
carlosTomaszD: add batch=XXX to the list of arguments02:22
carloswhere XXX is the number of messages you want02:22
noideayetI need to conosolidate 2 accounts, but I do not remember the email I used for one of them!02:22
carlosTomaszD: say that, if you put a high number there, you will get many timeout errors02:22
noideayet*merge 02:22
carlosnoideayet: do you remember the launchpad id of both accounts ?02:23
TomaszDcarlos, so for example I have https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-system-tools/+pots/gnome-system-tools/pl/+translate?start=9002:23
noideayetcarlos, id, no. One is ~niy and one is ~ffm02:23
TomaszDhow do I add it? just &batch=100 ?02:23
carlosTomaszD: yes02:23
noideayetcarlos, I want ~ffm to be the primary.02:23
TomaszDok02:23
carlosyeah, that's the id02:23
noideayetAnd I do not remember the email i used with ~ffm02:24
carlosnoideayet: I guess that means that you are not able to login into that account, right?02:24
noideayetcarlos, yes.02:25
carlosnoideayet: you will need an admin then02:25
noideayetWhere can I find one, carlos ?02:26
ubotuNew bug: #145192 in launchpad-bazaar "cvs and subversion fields disabled in series/+source form" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14519202:26
carlosstub: could you help noideayet ?02:26
carlosnoideayet: https://launchpad.net/~admins/+members02:26
carlosnoideayet: another option and more reliable is to file a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad02:27
noideayetcarlos, thanks.02:30
carlosnp02:30
stubnoideayet: Its a @gmail.com email address.02:31
stubDoesn't the password recovery get the relevant details to you?02:32
noideayetstub, no , it only gives me the info for ~niy. I think I uses the same email for both.02:33
noideayetI could auth with one of my keys...02:34
stubHmm... insists on email address. I wonder if that is deliberate or if it accepts Launchpad nick?02:34
carlosnoideayet: I don't think launchpad allows you that02:34
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noideayetbut I have one of my keys on file.02:34
noideayetI can sign a message with it to prove I Am the owner of the key.02:34
noideayetI have both keys in my keychain.02:35
stubI've sent a password forgotten reminder to the ~niy account02:36
noideayetI know the password for ~niy02:37
stubThere is only a deactivated GPG key for ~niy02:38
stubIf you know the password for ~niy, you can log in and see your email address.02:38
stubLog in as 'niy' rather than using an email address should work fine.02:39
noideayetI need to log in as ffm. 02:39
stubOk. I've sent a password forgotten email to that one.02:40
stubOtherwise if you can sign some text with that GPG key and pastebin it somewhere that should be fine.02:41
noideayetstub, can you tell me which email the password was sent to?02:42
stubOr I could just tell you the email address since it is actually public (despite the private flag being set on it), because it is exposed in your GPG key02:43
stubhttp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x757408F6&op=index02:43
noideayetgot it.02:45
noideayetFinished the merge02:49
noideayetstub, thanks!02:53
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ubotuNew bug: #145206 in launchpad "Long team membership lists make it hard to find pending members" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14520603:01
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jjesseis it just me or is launchpad running slow today?03:11
sabdfldneary: did you figure out how do do it, or do you want me to take a look?03:12
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dnearysabdfl: Didn't get any answers03:12
dnearySo the questions still stands03:12
dnearyI just haven't been able to find the menu entry, and I think that the last time it was done (for the 2.1 branch), it was alkylyn that did it03:13
ddaajjesse: there seems to be some sort of problem with the data center03:13
jjesseddaa: oh ok, just wondered if my connection was having problems or something03:14
Balaams_MiracleAh, so i'm not the only one. That rules out my ISP messing things up03:14
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ddaaAs far as I can tell, ubuntu.com, canonical.com and launchpad.net just fell off the net. Our sysadmins are investigating. You might want to check #canonical-sysadmin for updates (please be quiet, they are busy fixing the network).03:16
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sidneihey there, is launchpad down?03:18
sidneiim getting timeouts here :(03:18
ddaathere is a network problem03:18
ddaasysadmins are investigating03:19
sidneiok, thank you!03:19
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mrevellddaa: Ah, we're back I believe03:29
ddaalooks like03:30
ddaamrevell: feel free to update the topic, but I'd rather wait until we have confirmation that the problem is solved.03:30
mrevellddaa: Yeah, absolutely right to wait03:31
PiciDo we know what the problem was?03:32
ddaaI'm sure mrevell will write an enlightening message once we know :)03:32
mrevelli shall :)03:32
mrevellto launchpad-users03:32
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iwjIt's still broken for me.03:33
ddaalooks down again03:33
sidneii second that03:33
barryyes, it's very slow for me too03:35
iwjI just got ECONNTIMEDOUT.03:36
mwhbarry: is there a review meeting in 23 minutes?03:37
mwhi would check the wiki, but...03:37
barrymwh: hopefully ;)03:37
mwhright03:37
barryactually, yes.  i managed to get a page with the agenda so unless everyone's off fighting fires, we should still have it03:38
jjesseagreed03:39
jjessedoh wrong channel03:39
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sabdfl(14:33:59) sabdfl: dneary: you want 2.2 as the development focus?03:54
sabdfl(14:35:03) sabdfl: the page you want is https://edge.launchpad.net/wengophone/+edit03:54
dnearysabdfl: Yes, please03:55
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flacostebarry: meeting time?04:00
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barryhello everyone and welcome to this week's launchpad reviewer team meeting.  for the next 45 minutes or less we'll be talking about the launchpad code review process04:01
barryAgenda04:01
barry    * Roll call04:01
barry    * Next meeting04:01
barry    * Action items04:01
barry    * Queue status04:01
barry    * Mentoring update04:01
barryso, let's get started...04:02
barry    * Roll call04:02
mwhhere04:02
barrywho's here today?04:02
statikme04:02
sinzuime04:02
salgadome04:02
bacme04:02
flacosteme04:02
flacosteBjornT is sprinting04:03
barrycool.04:03
barryintellectronic1, intellectronica: ping04:03
flacosteintellectronica is also sprinting i think04:04
barryflacoste: cool, thanks04:04
barry    * Next meeting04:04
barrysame time and place?  does anyone know they will not be here?04:04
barry504:05
barry404:05
barry304:05
barry204:05
intellectronic1me04:05
barry104:05
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intellectronic1(sprinting, but sine i didn't apologized in advance i'll try to pay attention)04:05
barryintellectronic1: cool thanks.04:05
barry    * Action items04:06
barryso we had a few people volunteer to do things last week and i just wanted to review them.  first, let me apologies for not sending last week's meeting minutes.  they were sitting on a machine in a state of semi-upgradedness ;)04:07
barryi've updated the wiki and will email the minutes for last week and this week later today04:07
barryanyway,..04:07
barryActions from the last meeting:04:07
barry    * flacoste to add a reviewer's checklist page04:07
flacostedone04:07
barryflacoste: thanks!  can you remind folks of the url?04:07
flacostei sent an email to the review list to request feedback<04:08
statikthat has been useful for me already04:08
flacostehttps://launchpad.canonical.com/CodeReviewChecklist04:08
mwhyes, i thought it was nice04:08
intellectronic1i promised to get the review_tools into mainline, but haven't finished that yet. sorry! will get that done asap04:08
barryme too. great job flacoste.  has anybody /not/ read that page yet?04:08
barrycool.04:09
sinzuiMe04:09
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kikoahoy there04:09
barrydefinitely take a look when you get a chance.  it's really helpful04:09
barryintellectronic1: that was the next action item.  it's a great week0 task :)04:10
barry    * barry to add a page for mentors and recruits04:10
barryhttps://launchpad.canonical.com/MentorProcess04:10
barryfeel free to read it and comment or update it.  discuss on launchpad-reviews if there are questions/comments04:11
barry    * sinzui to help make lint.sh better by updating pylint.04:11
sinzuiNot done. I'll have bug 141317 in review  by Monday04:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 141317 in launchpad "Add pylint as a make target" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141317 - Assigned to Curtis Hovey (sinzui-is)04:11
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mwhbarry: can you (or did you?) send a mail to launchpad-reviews inviting comments?04:11
barrysinzui: rock on04:12
barrymwh: i might have forgotten :(04:12
barrymwh: i'll do that after this meeting04:12
mwhbarry: thanks04:12
barrymwh: thanks for poking me about it :)04:13
barry    * barry will try to find someone to work on [WWW]  bug 113626 to extend pending-reviews to run make lint for us.04:13
barry    * barry will coordinate for reviewer's sprint at all-hands04:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 113626 in launchpad "pending-reviews should run and display the output of make lint" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11362604:13
barryno progress on that.  i suck.04:13
bacsinzui: do we need to add pylint to launchpad-developer-dependencies package?04:13
sinzuibac: That's one option. I was thinking of adding it to our source because gutsy will still be several revs behind the current release.04:14
bacsinzui: right.04:14
barry    * Queue status04:15
barryi'm able to get to PendingReviews now :)  salgado, i think you did a bunch of assignments yesterday, right?  the general queue looks pretty good.04:16
ubotuNew bug: #145223 in launchpad "Reset Password page unusable on IE7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14522304:16
salgadobarry, yep, I did yesterday afternoon. will do more today04:16
barrysalgado: awesome, thanks.  good to see the earlybirds getting their .10 branches posted :)04:16
mwhi should point out that my ubuntu machine is out of action (dead hd)04:16
mwhshould get it back tomorrow, but i can't really review anything until friday, i expect04:17
barrymwh: thanks for the update04:17
barrywe currently have 7 branches in needs-review over sla04:18
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barryjamesh has a pretty old one of tim's but it's in conflict04:18
barryas is intellectronic1's branch that sinzui has04:18
barryanything else to say about the queue?04:19
sinzuiintellectronic1's branch is a victim of enums. It's not too bad04:19
barrysinzui: excellent. those are easy to resolve04:19
intellectronic1sinzui: whoops, sorry, will resolve later today after we finish sprinting04:20
barryit'll be nice when we finish that conversion and can stop worrying about conflicts there04:20
kikobarry, there should be few open tasks on that bug, right?04:20
barrykiko: which bug?04:20
kikothe enums bug.04:21
sinzuiI thought everyone would 'sprint' to get those converted.04:21
barryi don't know who still has conversions to do04:21
statikI've got a conversion in my review queue for translations04:22
intellectronic1malone still has a few. i started on them, and will finish before the end of the week04:22
sinzuislow conversions make extra work because of the afore mentioned conflicts04:22
barrykiko: maybe bring this up at tomorrow's meeting?04:22
barrykiko: wasn't there a deadline of .10 to finish the conversions?04:22
kikobarry, yes, I'm sure it'll happen04:22
barrycool04:23
barryanything else on the queue?04:23
bacthat'll be a good week 0 fix it friday task04:23
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barry    * Mentoring update04:23
barrydoes anybody have comments, questions, problems, blockers, kudos, enlightenment, fears, uncertainty, or doubt?04:24
sinzuiNone from me04:24
flacosteno04:24
barryare any recruits blocking on mentor reviews?04:24
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barryokay, that's it from me.  anything not on the agenda or shall we end early? :)04:26
barrysilence == assent04:26
barryMEETING ENDS04:26
barrythanks everyone!04:26
salgadothanks barry 04:27
kikothanks04:27
intellectronic1thanks barry04:27
bacassent == death?04:27
bacthanks barry04:27
mwhthanks barry 04:27
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ScottKI noticed that pylint came up during your meeting.  If someone would ask for an upstream version freeze exception for pylint, it'd probably be approved for Gutsy.04:27
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kikoScottK, I asked one for pyflakes a bit back -- I spoke to ajmitch about it04:28
ScottKRight.  There's an outstanding bug asking for pylint, but it doesn't have the needed info for a UVFe.  It seems reasonable to me to do it, but I'd like to have all the info.04:29
ScottKSeems to me it'd be better for you all to get it into Gutsy rather than maintain your own version separately.04:29
kikoScottK, do you have the bug handy?04:29
ScottKNo.04:29
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sinzuihttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pylint/+bug/14101304:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 141013 in pylint "Gutsy should use a new pylint package" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  04:29
kikothanks04:30
ScottKThat one.04:30
ScottKIIRC ajmitch mentioned there were two other packages that would need to be updated too.04:30
ScottKI don't recall which.04:30
sinzuithat's right. most of the pylint improvements are in their underlying packages.04:31
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ScottKIn any case, it takes someone taking the time to make sure it all builds and works correctly.  You'll have to to that work anyway if you maintain it separately.04:32
ScottKIt'd be nice to get it into Gutsy so everyone benifits ....04:33
kikogood point.04:33
ScottKAs a motu-uvf person, I'm inclined to approve it if it all works out, just need someone to do the legwork first....04:34
sinzuiScottK: and that means Gutsy amd64 and i386 testing?04:36
kikoScottK, I might ask ajmitch again, he has helped me reliably before :)04:37
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ubotuNew bug: #145240 in launchpad-cscvs "Cannot import whole repository" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14524004:56
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Odd_BlokeDoes anyone know of a good way to get an IRC notification when a LP branch is committed to?05:29
dnearyIt appears I don't have permissions. Will have to hassle someone else.05:30
mwhOdd_Bloke: get your bot a launchpad account, subscribe it to the branch05:32
mwh(then it will get email)05:32
Odd_Blokemwh: OK, thanks. :)05:32
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ScottKsinzui: For Python apps testing on any one arch should be sufficient.05:53
sinzuiScottK: That was not my experience running an AMD64 for Feisty, with Python 2.4 and Python 2.505:54
sinzuiScottK: That was a bad 3 weeks ;/05:54
ScottKsinzui: Unless the application in question has C extensions or addresses memory directly, I'd expect it to be OK, but for those cases, yes.05:55
ScottKI don't think any of that applies to pylint and friends.05:55
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pochuBjornT: matsubara: what do you think about bug 137997?08:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137997 in malone "+filebug-advanced should have Importance, Status and Assigne fields" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13799708:14
matsubarapochu: in the past I'd like to have such feature but nowadays I don't use the advanced form anymore. the duplicate finder feature is just too good to not use it.08:15
matsubarapochu: but I think there's another bug requesting something similar08:16
pochuOh, is there?08:16
pochuBut I do use it, and probably some people does too. And more will do if that bug is fixed ;)08:16
matsubarapochu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/8914608:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 89146 in malone "Combine simple and "complicated" bug-reporting forms (using Ajax)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  08:18
matsubarapochu: and there's some discussion about adding tags while filing a new bug in bug 5435908:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 54359 in malone "We should be able to add tags while reporting bugs." [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5435908:19
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pochumatsubara: thanks. commented on 5435908:27
matsubarathank you pochu 08:28
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pochumatsubara: I'd like to see those two bugs fixed :-)08:29
matsubarapochu: I don't care anymore for 54359. You can use the simple form like: +filebug?field.tag=foo and the tag foo will be added. It'd be nice to have 89146 fixed, though08:32
pochumatsubara: I'm not sure I understand it well... Does it say when you fill a field, then another is showed?08:37
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ubotuNew bug: #98396 in launchpad "testbrowser resolves relative URLs incorrectly" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9839608:42
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matsubarapochu: the way I see it, it'd work like when you file an issue in a code.google.com hosted project. If you're the owner or is related to the project in some way you'd have all the fields (importance, assignee, etc) but collapsed by default.08:50
pochumatsubara: and if you open them, do they open all at a time, or one by one?08:51
pochuI think all of them should be opened at one time.08:52
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matsubarascratch "collapsed by default". if you're not related to the project, you'd not have the fields available and if you're the form would show all the advanced fields.08:56
pochuNice. Go for it then! :)08:57
jamesieHi, I wanted to report a bug last week but my registration didn't complete. I got a confirmation today but it looks like I now have 2 launchpad accounts one orphan wiki/JamesCooley the new one with wiki/JamesCooley2. Is this hard to fix or are there two of us?08:59
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matsubarajamesie: what's you Launchpad id?09:00
RainCThi09:01
RainCTI can't push (bzr) to launchpad because of some lock error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38692/), any idea how to fix it?09:02
jamesieI think i used james@cooley.ie to register?09:02
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mwhRainCT: bzr break-lock sftp://whatever/whatever09:06
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matsubarajamesie: you can merge both your accounts. Log in with the account you want to keep and request a merge in: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge09:14
RainCTmwh: thanks! :)09:14
pochumatsubara: do you have an stimated ETA for that bug? (combine bug reporting forms)09:15
pochus/stimated/estimated/09:15
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matsubarapochu: sorry, nope. BjornT would know.09:16
pochuBjornT: same question ^ :-)09:17
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pochumatsubara: thanks for the info!09:17
matsubarapochu: yw09:18
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jamesiematsubara: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.09:24
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