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chukI'm getting an error when I try to install mythtv-themes01:24
chuktelles me it depends on frontend mythbuntu3 but mythbuntu2 is to be installed01:24
chukbtw, this is from trunk01:25
lagait's a known issue which is already fixed, AFAIK01:25
lagai guess you're using gutsy?01:25
chukxbuntu feisty01:25
lagait should work on feisty, i fixed it for a friend of mine01:26
lagamaybe you need to apt-get update01:26
chukI just did01:26
tgm4883_laptopchuk, have you tried apt-get install mythbuntufrontend3 or whatever it is called?01:27
chukI thikn its just called mythtv-frontend01:27
lagachuk: it ought to work if you're directly using the ppa01:27
chuknot using ppa01:27
chukusing UK mirror01:28
tgm4883_laptopchuk, have you tried apt-get install mythtv-frontend01:28
chukyes, I did that first01:28
lagathen the UK mirror is probably not synced01:28
lagaalthough it should be01:28
tgm4883_laptopand it didn't install 3, must not be available in your mirror then01:28
chukwould appear that way01:29
lagaodd01:29
lagaPPAs have their downsides *sigh*01:29
lagachuk: what version number are you talking about exactly01:29
chukhold one sec, its not on this computer01:30
chuksays it depends on 0.20.99+trunk14513-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu301:32
chukbut 0.20.99+trunk14513-0ubuntu0~ubuntu2 is to be installed01:32
lagaheh, it's fixed in ~mythbuntu401:33
lagaDaviey: you here? can you sync the UK mirror?01:34
DaveMorrishis prob asleep02:07
DaveMorrisanyway now I've fixed my mistake with m-d-s I''m off to bed02:10
DaveMorrisnight all02:10
laganight02:12
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jabagaweeanybody home?02:15
jabagaweehellooo02:16
laga?02:16
jabagaweewondering about ati tv wonder 65002:16
jabagaweewill it work with ol' mythbuntu?02:16
tgm4883_laptopdoes it work in linux?02:17
jabagaweeyes02:18
lagait should work in mythbuntu then02:18
jabagaweeoh02:18
jabagaweei meant: yes, i want to know if it works in linux02:18
jabagaweei have no clue if it works or not02:18
lagaah02:18
lagawell, you should go to www.linuxtv.org then02:19
lagaor google for "gatos"02:19
jabagaweegatos?02:19
jabagaweewhy?02:19
jabagaweewhats that mean?02:20
lagaother fan finding pictures of spanish cats, you'll also find http://gatos.sourceforge.net02:20
jabagaweehmm02:23
jabagaweenot really spanish cats02:23
lagai dunno if they're spanish or not02:24
lagabut i found pictures of kitten02:24
lagas02:24
jabagaweewanna help me with the pcHDTV HD-5500?02:28
jabagaweeits fully linux supported02:28
jabagaweebut the mythTV wiki makes it look complicated to install02:28
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FatDavetgm4883?02:57
FatDavei have some news for you02:57
FatDaveyou here laga?02:59
FatDavesuperm1?03:03
superm1what's up?03:06
FatDavedid you keep up with my nvidia problem yesterday?  I can't remember03:07
superm1um03:08
superm1i remember helping someone with overclocking03:08
superm1and someone wanted to do dual screens03:08
superm1but that's all that comes to mind immediately03:08
FatDaveah.  that wasn't me03:09
superm1well what was it?03:16
FatDaveproblem with the nvidia restricted drivers03:17
FatDaveinstall them, reboot, failsafe graphics screen03:18
FatDavesame thing with nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-legacy, and nvidia-glx03:18
superm1is your card supported?03:18
FatDaveGeForce4 MX03:19
superm1should be by nvidia-glx then03:19
FatDaveits an onboard GPU03:19
FatDaveon an nforce2 board03:19
superm1Xorg.0.log informative at all?03:20
FatDavewell, yes.  I posted it on pastebin03:21
FatDavebut I don't have the links anymore03:22
superm1were you something with interrupts?03:22
superm1last night?03:22
FatDaveis there anyway I can find them?03:22
FatDaveno03:22
superm1!logs | FatDave03:22
ubotuFatDave: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs03:22
FatDavehm.  i click on the link for ubuntu-mythtv and nothing shows up03:26
FatDaveoh.  their all 0k03:27
superm1hm sounds like ubuntulog died then03:27
FatDavethey're*03:27
FatDavehm.  it appears that they are all gone anyway03:31
FatDavei'll dig up a fresh copy of that log for you03:31
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FatDavehaha.  guess what03:33
FatDavei guess I am the interrupt guy.03:33
superm1haha03:33
FatDaveI must have been confusing my nvidia problems with my pvr-500 second tuner no sound problem03:34
FatDaveanyway03:34
MythbuntuGuest42Hi all03:34
FatDavei was playing around last night03:34
FatDaveand this is what I did03:34
FatDaveI regenerated my xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig.  then ran nvidia-glx-config enable.  then ran nvidia-xconfig again.03:35
MythbuntuGuest42I have a problem with recordings. Everything records when I watch it live, but the scheduled recordings are nothing but black. No sound either.03:35
superm1FatDave, is that method even supported any more?03:35
superm1nvidia-xconfig?03:35
FatDavethen I ctrl-alt-backspaced out of X03:35
superm1hi MythbuntuGuest4203:35
FatDaveand it came up fine!03:35
superm1MythbuntuGuest42, multiple tuners?03:35
FatDavethen I rebooted.  and it failed again03:35
superm1sounds to me like transient hardware issues then03:36
FatDaveso I don't know what to think03:36
superm1if anything03:36
FatDaveits like its not loading the nvidia kernel module at boot time03:36
superm1well it would say so in that Xorg.0.log03:36
superm1if that was the case03:36
MythbuntuGuest42i have only one tuner - PVR35003:36
superm1MythbuntuGuest42, external cable box by chance?03:37
MythbuntuGuest42nope03:37
MythbuntuGuest42my wife is getting pissed at me. Mised dancing with the stars tonight ;-P03:38
superm1hm03:38
FatDaveis there a kernel log?03:38
superm1FatDave, dmesg03:39
superm1or /var/log/messages03:39
FatDavelooks like it is loading that module from what I see in the xorg log03:39
superm1MythbuntuGuest42, well have you compared logs from live to recordings?03:39
superm1to see if there is anything funky showing up?03:39
FatDaveMythbuntuGuest42: can you watch live TV while you're recording?03:40
FatDaveor does it tell you that its already in use?03:41
MythbuntuGuest42I only have one tuner - can hit record and watch, or recordings start while watching and work fine.03:44
MythbuntuGuest42log sho the following -03:44
MythbuntuGuest42 MPEGRec(/dev/video0) Error: Error getting codec params $03:44
MythbuntuGuest42does not show with livetv03:44
MythbuntuGuest42perhaps I should look at my recording profiles03:45
superm1sounds like it03:48
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MythbuntuGuest42yeah, but what am I looking for?03:52
MythbuntuGuest42All profiles have the same setup as livetv03:52
superm1sorry guys, i've gotta jet for a bit.  I'll try to be back on later, hopefully someone else in the room can take over help for a little (if anyone else is around), otherwise i'll be back on either later tonight or tomorrow morning03:53
MythbuntuGuest42thanks!04:01
MythbuntuGuest42Anyone else had this problem?04:01
MythbuntuGuest42I am thinking it may be screensaver related04:02
MythbuntuGuest42just records black04:02
MythbuntuGuest42when not watching tv04:02
FatDaveyou should always have your screensaver turned off on a myth machine04:04
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MythbuntuGuest42I didn't turn anything on04:04
MythbuntuGuest42but I notice that the screen is black when i turn it on04:05
FatDavethe screensaver is on by default.04:05
FatDaveturn it off in System -> Preferences -> Screensaver04:05
MythbuntuGuest42that may be my problem04:05
FatDavei think its a little checkbox that says "Activate screensaver when inactive" or something04:06
MythbuntuGuest42Thanks!04:07
FatDavenp.  i hope thats all it is04:07
MythbuntuGuest42Hopefully that will do it04:07
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foxxbuntuevening superm104:39
foxxbuntuevening tgm4883_laptop04:40
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vanjugglerhello all04:47
foxxbuntuvanjuggler, hello04:48
vanjugglerI just installed the latest mythbuntu, and I'm having trouble getting the nvidia driver to work with my geforce 3 Ti 200.  The screen comes up blank after a reboot, and I see a kernel dump on an ssh console04:48
vanjugglerhello foxxbuntu04:48
foxxbuntuyou most likley will have to get the restricted drivers, or just download the install from nivida due to the age of that card04:50
foxxbuntuI reccommend sticking with what is in the repos however04:50
foxxbuntuwhat type of install did you do?04:50
foxxbuntu(of mythbuntu)04:51
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dwestendorfheyyyo04:54
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MythbuntuGuest35i recently did an install of mythbuntu, anyone have any issues with firewire?04:56
MythbuntuGuest35it will prime, however, the logs show the following:04:56
MythbuntuGuest35libiec61883 warning: Established connection on channel 0.04:58
MythbuntuGuest35You may need to manually set the channel on the receiving node.04:58
MythbuntuGuest35no recording takes place04:58
MythbuntuGuest35the version of mythbuntu was the 64 bit iso from 9/2104:59
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest35, did you set a channel on your stb?05:02
vanjugglerfoxxbuntu: I did an easy install, and didn't install any nvidia stuff until after the install05:03
foxxbuntudid you install the nvidia stuff?05:03
MythbuntuGuest35the channel would change05:04
MythbuntuGuest35but no video would be recorded05:04
MythbuntuGuest35there is a post on myth wiki instructing to compile older libraw1394, but I also saw some threads in the mythbuntu mailing lists archive asking for tests and they had no issue05:06
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest35, there are no issues with the gutsy kernel and firewire05:12
tgm4883_laptoptune the stb to a channel, then reprime05:12
MythbuntuGuest35ok, i will give it a shot, thanks.05:13
vanjugglerfoxxbuntu: on the initial install I didn't install any nvidia drivers.  The myth menus were really slow upon install, so I used the restricted drivers manager to install nvidia drivers.05:19
foxxbuntuvanjuggler, did you do that before or after the reboot?05:19
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bendaileyDaviey: ping06:15
bendaileysuperm1: ping06:26
superm1hi bendailey06:26
bendaileyis Daviey the only on with the current list of mirrors and bandwidth restrictions?06:27
superm1well the only one that has kept up with it afaik06:27
bendaileyI have the redirect script and tables ready06:27
superm1i've not worried about it at all :)06:27
bendaileysuperm1: you have lots else to worry about06:27
bendaileyis the site hosted by tgm488306:28
superm1no its hosted by jumpkick06:28
bendaileyor is he just taking care drupal?06:28
superm1he actually hosts it, and will need to setup the additional DB06:28
bendaileyis jumpkick around often?06:28
superm1well he appears to be on irc according to /whois06:28
superm1i'll invite him to the channel06:28
superm1lets see if he's actually around06:29
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superm1if he doesn't show up, what do you need done?06:30
superm1a db made?06:30
bendaileyyeah but I will probably want to run the new script past Daviey first see he was the original creator06:31
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superm1well can this all be done in the same db as drupal by chance?06:32
superm1it just makes an additional table i'd anticipate right?06:32
MythbuntuGuest30hello all.  got an installation issue.  screen goes black on my monitor when X starts.  Safe mode, same thing.  Set res with F4 same thing.  Any help would be much appreciated.06:33
bendailey5 additional tables actually ... well 6 but 1 is only used to import the GeoIP stuff06:33
superm1but the db itself can be any db06:41
superm1i can probably juts get you into the drupal one if jumpkick doesn't show up06:42
superm1MythbuntuGuest30, what kind of monitor?06:43
bendaileyyeah db can be anykind as long as we don't name conflicting names but I can append my tables if needed06:44
superm1that will make backup restore more straightforward if we just share the db anyhow06:44
bendaileyvery true06:44
bendaileysuperm1: how do you manage the db now? phpmyadmin?06:47
superm1well the managing that i've had to do was setting up drupal the first time via command line06:47
superm1and that was it06:47
superm1i dont know the mysql root pw06:47
bendaileydo you have a username and passwd with access drupal database?06:50
superm1i should be able to grab that06:50
bendaileysuperm1: do you have shell?06:50
superm1let me double check06:50
superm1i have shell yes06:50
bendaileyok06:50
superm1bendailey, yeah i've got the u/p for the drupal user06:54
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bendaileysuperm1: do you want to setup the tables?06:59
superm1sure bendailey just tell me what i've gotta do06:59
superm1how are we going to obfuscate the password and username for mysql in this script?07:00
bendaileybendailey: how does drupal hide them?07:00
superm1i'm not sure, i was trying to figure that out myself07:01
superm1i couldnt find it referenced anywhere in drupal07:01
superm1i had to look back at my old logs from jumpkick to find out what it was07:01
bendaileysuperm1: if you grep -r "username" * in the root of the web directory any hits?07:01
superm1well the username is already used for other stuff, so yea a ton07:02
superm1oh wait nvm07:03
superm1i did find it07:03
superm1in clear text07:03
superm1so its not really obfuscated then07:03
bendaileyright as long as apache is serving up the pages as php content there should be any easy way to get the u/p in plain text07:04
superm1*shouldn't* :)07:04
bendaileyexactly :)07:04
superm1well if you want to make your first few commands in the script to check for these tables07:04
superm1and if they dont exist07:04
superm1make them07:04
superm1that will work fine too07:04
bendaileybut if someone wanted to grab them they would get them from the know location in drupal (security by obscurity?)07:05
bendaileyyeah the mysql script checks for table existence07:05
superm1okay07:05
superm1well how about this07:05
superm1you include the drupal file that has things in clear text07:06
superm1and just use that information07:06
bendaileyI will pm you the url to get the mysql script07:06
bendaileywhat is the file in drupal with the info? I will look at my drupal instal and see if we will have variable conflicts07:07
superm1well its defined like this in the file: $db_url = 'mysql://user:pass@localhost/mythbuntu';07:07
superm1(db is mythbuntu)07:07
superm1frink_, it appears that i'm having trouble installing things on your box?07:25
superm1i was going to setup apache tonight07:25
superm1but everytime i try to grab sudo it just returns me to the terminal as what07:26
superm1i had07:26
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superm1keescook, you got a few (and still up)?07:50
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bendaileyby the way I have been trying to download the alpha4 i386 iso via torrent for over 2 days there are no peers/seeds08:17
superm1no peers or seeds?08:20
superm1i wonder if the tracker stopped working?08:21
bendaileyyep no peers & no seeds08:22
superm1i dont recall how to get to the tracker08:24
superm1from drupal08:24
superm1hm08:25
superm1well we can try to sort that out tomorrow08:26
superm1its almost 2:30 by you anyhow, shouldn't you be getting to bed soon? :)08:26
bendaileymy son is very ill and I am not feeling the best :( so between cleanups I am here08:27
bendaileyI have already emailed of sick tomorrow08:27
superm1ah i see08:28
bendaileysuperm1: Administer->Site Configuration->BitTorrent Tracker Settings08:28
superm1well i'm going to sort out my last item tonight and then hit the sack myself08:28
superm1discuss further tomorrow :)08:28
bendaileyok I looked at bittorrent settings and web seeding is disable :(08:30
bendaileysuperm1: thanks and good night08:30
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lagare11:40
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DaveMorrishmm, it still auto logs you out when you exit mythtv, how are you suppose to run the mythtv-control-center12:30
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lagaDaveMorris: log out, go to gdm, choose a different session, log in12:56
DaveMorristhanks12:57
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DavieyDaveMorris: How is the documentation going?01:09
DavieyWhat are we doing about publishing it?01:09
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DaveMorrisI was working on that xfce4 stuff and for got about it :(01:12
DaveMorrishttp://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/mythbuntu/complete-manual.pdf and http://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/mythbuntu/01:12
DaveMorrisis the current stages01:12
Davieywow 3.1 meg01:12
DaveMorrisalot of the screen shots need redoing01:13
DavieyIs this in bzr aswell?01:13
DaveMorrisyeah01:13
DaveMorrismight not be as upto date as that one,01:13
DaveMorrisbzr is update01:15
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DaveMorrisany comments on it daviey?01:17
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DavieyDaveMorris: aint looked yet :)01:22
Davieyheh 3 pages of licenece :)01:23
DavieyYou have been a busy bee!01:24
DaveMorrisit just takes a long time to do it all, and to make sure it's correct01:24
DaveMorrisI need to do my master's coursework now though as I'm running out of time for that01:25
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Davieynaa.. drop out of your masters01:28
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directhex|worki work at oxford. a masters is a bad thing, because it makes you eligible to teach students01:34
DaveMorrislol01:36
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directhex|workthey hand out honorary masters left right & center whenever they're short of teaching staff01:37
DaveMorrislol01:37
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DaveMorrismy net connection was slow at work yesterday, was down to 200KB/s coz the students where all back01:40
directhex|workbeat them with spoons01:40
DaveMorrisnah, I just need to get facebook blocked ;)01:41
directhex|workblock facebook, then beat them with spoons?01:42
DaveMorrisprehaps I should just run the 300 machines in the CS through a 10meg hub before it joins my network?01:44
DaveMorrisCS = computer suite01:44
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frink_ho hum02:19
Samson-agreed02:19
frink_10Mb/s hub.. yars.02:19
frink_plenty isnt it02:19
Samson-DaveMorris: you could throttle connections to the IP blocks registered to facebook/myspace02:20
frink_or pass facebook/myspace through upside-down-ternet02:21
Samson-is that like an upside down pineapple cake?02:21
frink_http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html02:21
Samson-ahh yeah, i remember reading that02:22
Samson-i have a feeling that if ~300 users were surfing facebook/myspace the squid-mogrify box would catch fire02:23
frink_cpu++02:24
frink_sep squid/morg/webserver boxes02:24
frink_then multiple boxes and load balancers02:24
frink_you can scale this stuff up innit02:24
frink_:)02:24
Samson-to infinity and beyond02:25
DavieySamson-: Star Trek / Star Wars references are band in this channel i'm afriad..02:26
DavieyConsider that your first warning :D02:26
Samson-toy story02:27
frink_That was a Buzz Lightyear ref from toy story02:27
DavieyAh yes.. that's acceptable i think ;)02:27
frink_So Red Alert, Shields Up, Phasers Ready ;-)02:27
Samson-hah02:28
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bendaileyDaviey: ping02:44
Davieybendailey: pong02:45
bendaileyDaviey: ygm?02:45
Davieyyup02:46
bendaileywhat do you think?02:46
DavieyI haven't had a chance to actually implement it.. but it's a total redesign eh?02:47
Davieygood work02:47
DavieyHow long does it keep the mysql socket?02:47
bendaileyeach request I forgot to put the close at the bottom but it should disappear then02:48
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Davieyheh02:49
bendaileyunless persistent connections are set in php.ini then I believe the connection can stay open between request but I need to confirm02:49
frink_I am very annoyed, I fixed an ongoing problem (6 months +) that nobody here could fix by moving a dodgy switch port to another switch.02:50
Davieybendailey: that's one huge sql file!02:50
Samson-302:50
frink_This problem has prevented me from  enjoying a satisfactory Myth streaming experience in the office.02:50
bendaileyyeah the reason it so big is all the geoIP stuff is in there02:50
Davieybendailey: Did you see how i handled the geoIP stuff?02:51
bendaileyfrink_: flaky hardware issues cause headaches and large holes in walls02:51
Davieybendailey: GeoIP can expand the 2 letter country code to the full name itself :O02:52
bendaileyDaviey: yeah I saw how you did it02:52
bendaileyI don't every use country name02:52
Davieyok02:53
frink_-rw-rw----  1 mysql mysql 1.8G 2006-04-19 19:56 m_postcode.MYD02:53
frink_-rw-rw----  1 mysql mysql 716M 2006-04-19 21:46 m_postcode.MYI02:53
frink_I have a 1.8Gb table02:53
Davieyfrink_: UK postcode database?02:53
bendaileyby putting the GeoIP stuff in mysql I now have small foreign key int for joins as oppose to using string indexes02:54
frink_Daviey: yup02:55
Davieybendailey: good idea02:55
Davieyfrink_: is that free or purchased?02:55
frink_Daviey: purchased02:55
frink_Daviey: at _GREAT_ expense!02:55
frink_which considering it is really public information..02:56
frink_it has postcodes, streets in the postcode and lat-long boundries of the postcode.02:56
bendaileyfrink_: that is interesting does it do zip to city mapping?02:56
bendaileyfrink_: much more info then the zip tables I have used in the US02:56
bendaileyDaviey: can we put together a list of mirrors and monthly bandwidth allocations?02:57
lagai wish i had geoip.02:58
bendaileywe should make 2 entries into the db for canonical one with no country code and one with UK country02:59
bendaileylaga: we are just using GeoIPLIte02:59
frink_benbendddaad03:00
bendaileyfrink_: yes?03:01
Davieylaga: Yeah basic GeoIP is free for non-commerical use03:14
Davieybendailey: I'm toying with the idea, of the php script 'pinging' the server, seeing if the file is there - if not use an alternate03:15
bendaileyDaviey: that isn't a bad idea how are you thinking about doing it?03:16
bendaileyDaviey: cache the results for a period of time?03:16
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frink_sorry - broken network!03:23
frink_bendailey: Yes it does zip-city mapping, zip to lat/long and more importantly..03:24
lagai thought you were the guy weith the gigabit pipe? :>03:24
lagas/weith/with/03:24
frink_it maps sig strength of our network to postcodes03:24
frink_laga: Yeah, but the office has 100Mb/s over microwave and it looks like a switch just died.. heh03:24
frink_and it relies on Spanning Tree to fix it :(03:24
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frink_laga: But I can download the latest ubuntu iso at 130Mb/s :)03:27
frink_and that was slow heh03:27
superm1frink_, you got my message about how sudo doesnt work right?03:33
frink_superm1: no03:34
frink_superm1: email?03:34
frink_superm1: what happens?03:34
superm1frink_, i'm just returned to the same prompt03:34
superm1it appears that i'm not in any groups either03:35
superm1on that box03:35
frink_ok try now03:35
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frink_I added you to the groups in /etc/group03:36
superm1ah good03:39
superm1works now03:39
frink_:)03:39
superm1however my time for this morning to play with this is up already, so i'll have to continue later :)03:40
lagamorning superm103:42
bendaileysuperm1: who should I talk to about bittorrent?03:42
superm1hi guys, sorry i'm gonna be running out for class.  bendailey talk to tgm4883 since he has setup a majority of the bit torrent related stuff03:42
superm1laga, we're in much better shape now with regarding the disk, only 2-3 more issues to track down03:43
superm1but the new builds should be fully xfceicized (before install)03:43
lagagood03:43
lagai#ll try a test build later03:43
superm1make sure to update your local mythbuntu-livedisk branch first03:45
superm1okay cu guys later03:45
lagak03:45
lagacu03:45
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bendaileytgm4883: is there a reason we don't have web seeding turned on for the tracker?04:11
DaveMorrisdo we need it?  I saw around 500 seeds when I opened mine earlier04:24
tgm4883bendailey, superm1, didn't turn it on. But I think the reasoning was that A) we have enough seeds, and B) we didn't want to put unnecessary load on the server by having people download from it04:24
directhex|workhm, adobe.com is horribly insecure04:25
tgm4883thats why we don't have the ISO on the webserver04:25
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lagadirecthex|work: yes. quite funny04:34
directhex|worklaga, yeah, but... http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=../../../../../../../../..//usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key/www.adobe.com.key%0004:35
directhex|worklaga, as far as things which shouldn't get out go, i think an ssl private key is high on the list04:35
frink_lol04:35
frink_i cannot believe how far that has traveled now04:35
frink_I think most of the Internet has Adobe's SSL key now.04:36
frink_and /etc/passwd04:36
frink_etc04:36
frink_And people have like cracked all the passwords04:36
frink_and downloaded all the source to their website - there are some torrents of it all around.04:36
frink_much LOL04:36
lagadirecthex|work: i saw that. heh04:36
directhex|worksilly adobe! silly!04:36
laga:>04:38
frink_Does it still work?04:38
lagayup04:39
frink_oh dear04:39
lagaclick on it yourself :)04:39
frink_ahem..04:39
frink_it would appear that somebody hacked into my desktop, installed tor and already downloaded most of the content of their server already.04:39
frink_I found it last night in a hidden directory04:40
lagasilly haxx0rs04:40
frink_gn0rty04:40
lagai need to set up tor again on this box04:41
Davieydirecthex|work: that is the second IRC channel i have seen that URL04:41
lagasecond here, too04:42
frink_Oh what was your first?04:42
laga#mythtv-de04:42
frink_thats very funny04:43
frink_like the whole Internet knows about it04:43
lagaheh04:43
frink_I expect Adobe will fix it in the next release of their reader04:43
lagadont see it on digg frontpage though04:43
Davieyfrink_: an unrelated mythtv channel on another network04:44
Davieynetwork blizted #bitfolk04:44
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superm1_alright folks, fyi our forums are now live: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=30105:01
lagacool05:02
superm1_can someone update the support page for this?05:03
laga*circkets*05:03
lagamight do it later unless someone beats me to it. it's perl time again05:04
superm1_well actually it might make more sense to hold off updating until the beta announce anyhow05:04
superm1_but if people find it and start using it before hand05:04
superm1_no biggie05:04
lagain the end it doesnt really matter i suppose05:04
superm1_okay i'm gonna fire off a mail to the list regarding this xfce move since i've got a few more things to take care of05:13
superm1_laga, will you have the rest of the control centre mythweb items fixed up by tomorrow or so?05:13
lagaby whose tomorrow?05:15
superm1_oh good point05:16
superm1_mine?05:16
lagayes, that gives me another 24 hours. i'll do my best05:16
superm1_depending on how this xfce move is going to be handled, some other big changes will be needed in the control centre05:16
lagaoh05:17
lagawell, your control centre hacking shouldn't be affected by mine05:17
lagawould be cool if we could at least get the strings done ASAP so we can upload to/merge with rosetta05:18
superm1_well yours breaks mine right now unless i roll back your revision :)05:18
superm1_that's a good point05:18
lagawhat'05:18
superm1_man there aren't enough hours in a day i swear05:18
lagas breaking? the help back packages05:18
lagayes05:18
superm1_i can't apply anything right now with the mythweb issue05:18
lagahaven't touched the playstation 2 in days :/05:18
lagabecause it tries to configure it and it's not installed?05:19
superm1_i think that's what was happening05:19
lagak05:20
lagaeasy fix05:20
lagaxmltv makes me _want_ to go back to the control centre05:20
lagacontrol centre has become messy, but at least it's not braindead05:20
superm1_ubiquity's current problem does too for me05:20
superm1_yeah the control centre has become really messy.  consequences of rapid coding05:21
lagaconsequences of giving my write access to the bzr repo05:21
superm1_well it was messy before you touched it05:22
superm1_that whole config framework i had in place so that you could save configs later and replicate them05:22
superm1_on additional machines05:22
superm1_but it just got out of hand05:22
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superm1_oh neat, the 'vmware' video module is shipped in gutsy05:30
superm1_that's why the resolution is incredibly huge05:30
superm1_i wonder if there is a vmware tools package too?05:30
frink_cool05:32
frink_I have not made my card output HDTV resoltuion yet without my TV saying "out of range"05:32
frink_which is annoying05:32
superm1_frink_, dvi/hdmi,component,vga?05:33
frink_vga05:34
superm1_is it giving you EDID info?05:34
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directhex|worksuperm1, the vmware driver's been shipped for years05:36
frink_oh read-edid is broken..it is in the Xorg log isnt it?05:37
superm1_directhex|work, well this is the first time i've seen it actually doing something for me then :)05:39
superm1_i normally use virtualbox except on this laptop that i installed vmware-server ages ago05:39
directhex|worki find virtualbox's netowkring capabilities to be... hrm...05:40
directhex|work"utter shit" is the phrase i think05:41
Davieysuperm1_: virtual box non-free or from src/.05:41
superm1_directhex|work, completely agree there05:41
superm1_Daviey, non-free and OSE i've tried05:41
superm1_it really would be nice though if vmware-tools was available in multiverse05:42
superm1_rather than having to go through the annoying manual process of setting things up05:42
Davieyvmware-tools = the drivers etc, for use within the VM?05:43
superm1_yeah05:44
Davieyyeah.. i had to extract them from an ISO - last time i needed them05:45
frink_What does 0% [Waiting for headers]  mean?05:47
lagabah, internet went out05:49
superm1_laga, why'd you break the intarweb?05:52
lagai think the vmware video driver was in debian woody, too ;)05:54
frink_has06:00
frink_mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu/06:00
frink_died?06:00
lagause archive.ubuntu.com06:00
lagainstead06:00
frink_thats all that is in /etc/apt/sources.list06:00
lagadoesn't load here06:00
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frink_oh well06:02
frink_it was all i had in sources.list06:02
laga17:47 < laga> use archive.ubuntu.com06:04
lagainstead :)06:04
frink_        Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers06:06
frink_        Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC2 transfers06:06
frink_superm1_: No EDID :(06:06
superm1_frink_, that's unfortunate06:06
superm1_makes it a bit hard to find the right refresh rate and such06:06
lagaask the manufacturer?06:07
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DaveMorrisgoogle the make and model for some sane defaults06:09
lagacurl up in a corner06:10
frink_superm1_: Oh i have it in the book :)06:12
frink_    modeline "1360x768" 85 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync06:13
frink_should work06:13
superm1_your book says it like *that*?06:13
frink_lol no06:13
frink_i found that06:13
frink_that would be nice wouldnt it.. modelines in the book.06:14
superm1_one of the reasons i chose the tv i did when i purchased it was because i didn't need to mess with modelines.  EDID told me everything it needed to06:14
DaveMorrisI though all modern monitors support EDID now06:15
lagahow much is a nice HDTV in these US these days?06:15
DaveMorrishttp://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/128474 - I'll gladdy accept that as a donation to make sure it works with mythbuntu06:16
superm1_you can get a 32" for ~ $1k06:16
lagahum. that's a bit of money06:16
lagai should open my old CRT tv to increase the birghtness setting06:17
DaveMorrislaga wait a few more weeks and that'll be about 50006:17
lagai won't do that before i fix m-c-c though in case i get killed...06:17
lagawe can already get 32" for 50006:17
DaveMorriswe can get budget ones in the Uk for around 250 ish06:17
lagathey're not necessarily the best tv sets but would be acceptable for many people06:17
lagaadobe still hasnt fixed their directory traversal problem06:18
frink_laga: It must have been known for a week by now. I saw it first over the weekend.06:19
DaveMorriswindows sys admins ;)06:19
frink_I would consider reporting it, but you know what happens to people who report these things.06:19
frink_did anybody get Download.cgi yet? It is a exploitable perl script? :)06:20
DavieyDaveMorris: LG 32LC2D ftw!06:24
Davieysupports rs23206:25
superm1_DaveMorris, but that doesn't do 1360x768 over vga...06:25
superm1_1024x768 max res isnt it?06:25
superm1_but dvi/hdmi can do 1280x72006:25
frink_1360x768 over rs232 perhaps?06:26
lagaand what are you gonna do with rs232?06:27
Davieylaga: control the telly06:27
Davieyie, on/off06:27
frink_laga: He can control it remotely.. He can ssh into it.06:27
Davieynaa, telnet only :(06:27
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frink_Then h4x0r5 will telnet to his telly and change it pr0n channels when his mum's watching.06:28
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superm1_DaveMorris, you here?07:59
DaveMorrisyeah08:00
DaveMorrisfor around 15-20 mins till my dinner is cooked08:01
superm1_DaveMorris, what should we do about /home/ubuntu/ in the background path?08:01
superm1_i wonder if $HOME works there too08:01
DaveMorrispersonally, stick that background in /usr/share08:02
superm1_and then what about the after install?08:02
DaveMorrisand point to it there, then when we install, we change the image for one we need08:02
superm1_because that will be a different path likely08:02
DaveMorrisor we can use ~/.background.xpm and install the new background image to the created users account08:03
superm1_well its already installed into the new user's account08:04
superm1_well it should be08:04
superm1_from /etc/skel08:04
superm1_but i wonder what happens from m-c-c then08:04
superm1_i guess08:05
DaveMorrisatm, the installed version of mythbuntu has a home dir installed of /home/ubuntu08:06
superm1_can you try switching it over to ~ ?08:06
DaveMorriswhich is still where they image is saved and loaded from08:06
superm1_right08:06
superm1_of ~ works, then this shouldn't be too much trouble08:06
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superm1_i dont have a disk on me right now, so can you just boot one and change that one setting, log out and see08:07
DaveMorrisdidn't work :(08:10
superm1_that's a shame.08:10
DaveMorrisI've got it installed and I'm trying with that08:10
superm1_well you do have a ~/.background.xpm in your user your trying with right?08:10
DaveMorrisyeah08:11
DaveMorrisfound a bug though, I have 4 versions of network applet running after logging in and out 4 times with the mythbuntu-admin session08:12
superm1_oh it's saving your settings of launching it eh?08:12
DaveMorrisI'm guessing it saving that it was running, and our log in script launches it each time08:13
DaveMorriscould we run a different script when the user logs in with mythbuntu-admin session compared to the livecd, then we can use different settings for xfce by not exporting xdg paths for the mythbuntu-admin session, and thus falling back on the ones in ~/.config08:14
superm1_well when you log out, there is the option to "save your session"08:14
superm1_well this goes along the lines of that email i sent to ubuntu-mythtv mailing list08:15
superm1_i'm not sure the most appropriate soluiton08:15
DaveMorristhere prob is, but the admin script should check to see if its running before launching again, I need to re sign up for that list08:15
superm1_because there is a lot of room for breakage for people migrating from feisty, as well as from alpha408:16
superm1_well the options in ~/.config already override08:16
superm1_anything in the Xdg08:16
DaveMorrisoh, none are installed though08:17
superm1_right08:17
DaveMorrismy dinner is ready now08:18
superm1_ok08:18
NeoFaxHello everyone!  Does myth have a script that will download new video game/movie trailers like XBMC?08:19
superm1_there is such a thing, but its not an official plugin08:24
superm1_mythtrailers i think08:24
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NeoFaxsuperm1_: Thanks!08:29
lagare08:30
superm1_hi08:30
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superm1_hi therethinker11:16
therethinkerhello11:16
superm1_are you on gutsy right now?11:16
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superm1_or have a gutsy box?11:16
therethinkerI can set up a VM11:16
superm1_therethinker, okay well so let me give you a quick overview of what this is11:16
superm1_so you've heard of mythtv before right?11:16
therethinkeryeah11:16
therethinkerI used it for a bit11:17
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superm1_okay and you've heard of mythbuntu?11:17
therethinkeryes11:17
superm1_laga, i found him in -devel offering to help with python stuff :)11:17
therethinker***laga: me11:17
lagaoh, nice :)11:17
superm1_okay so last month, i authored an app for it called mythbuntu-control-centre11:17
superm1_its in pyGTK11:18
therethinkerokay11:18
superm1_and pretty messy right now, it's what we like to call rapid coding11:18
therethinkerokay11:18
superm1_so currently it can be spawned from mythtv or directly from command line11:18
superm1_but it doesnt really fit into the myth interface11:18
therethinkerokay11:18
superm1_so recently there was this plugin for mythtv announced called mythpython11:19
superm1_http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/29091811:19
therethinkerokay11:20
superm1_we eventually want to create a second frontend available for mythbuntu-control-centre11:20
superm1_that fits directly into mythtv's interface11:20
superm1_via mythpython11:20
therethinkerokay (sorry that's all I'm saying :P)11:20
superm1_i'm not sure exactly how involved this will be (but i expect very)11:21
superm1_been worrying about other items before getting started with this11:21
therethinkeryeah11:21
superm1_so if you'd like to download a copy of the bzr branch of mythbuntu-control-centre and then take a look at mythpython and see what you think11:22
superm1_no needs to committing until you've taken a look around :)11:22
therethinker:)11:22
DaveMorrisI assume the mcc wasn't built with facades, where we just need to change the gui facade implementation11:22
therethinkerOkay11:23
lagatherethinker: if you wanna run m-c-c, make sure to revert my last few commits, they're a bit broken *cough*11:23
superm1_the branch info is here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre11:23
therethinkerthanks11:23
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superm1_so like i said the coding is a bit messy because it was so rushed, so it probably will need to be abstracted a bit in any which way before much progress will be made on this i think11:24
therethinkerokay11:25
superm1_okay i've got to run for a little myself and grab some dinner before my next class tonight.  if i'm not here when you respond, let one of the other guys know what you are thinking or send a mail over to ubuntu-mythtv@lists.ubuntu.com.  i should be back later on though11:26
therethinkerokay, thanks! I'll let you know11:27
therethinkerDo I need to use the mythbuntu alpha, or can I just use gutsy?11:30
DaveMorrisI'm pretty sure it can be installed on gutsy11:30
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lagayou can use gutsy, yes.11:30
therethinkerGood11:31
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MythbuntuGuest07has anyone had an issue with a missing grub.conf with the latest alpha?11:52
laganot here11:53
DaveMorrisI've not come across it11:53
tgm4883nope11:54
tgm4883although admittedly, I haven't looked for it11:54
MythbuntuGuest07its weird.  i mean, writing a grub.conf isnt a problem, but it just makes me wonder if its a bad disk or something11:54
MythbuntuGuest07i did think the install went a little fast for my liking11:54
MythbuntuGuest07even though im no stranger to linux, this is my first go around with mythbuntu11:55
Samson-MythbuntuGuest07: i just installed with the latest alpha and my grub config was created just fine12:01
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MythbuntuGuest07ok ill reburn and try again.12:03
MythbuntuGuest07thanks guys12:03
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Samson-i did have media errors on the CD I installed from though, running the media test on the CD will let you know12:13
MythbuntuGuest96help,  I have a schedueling issue,  I can select something to record but it does not show up in upcomming recordings or place the icon next to the item in the schedule.  I have tried from the web and the osd.12:13
Samson-anything in your backend logs?12:14
DaveMorrisDoes it record the show?12:14
lagaMythbuntuGuest96: you probably haven't connected your video source to your video input.12:14
MythbuntuGuest96I can watch live tv and record live, just not schedule12:15
DaveMorrisMythbuntuGuest96: have you checked what laga said?12:22
MythbuntuGuest96I have,  still no luck12:22
lagawell, you have chedk it. what was the result of that check? :)12:24
lagachecked*12:25
MythbuntuGuest96ok,  well,  the second reboot cleared up the issue12:33
MythbuntuGuest96thanks12:33
superm1laga, most definitely you broke m-c-c with that mythweb change. i rolled back to the old version and was able to switch roles and plugins no trouble.12:42
lagai know, i already took the blame12:43
superm1i appear to have found some bug in it too, it's appending to .lircrc12:44
superm1rather than replacing it12:44
superm1which can make for double or triple button presses12:44
lagainteresting12:45
superm1easy enough fix though.  shutil.copy should be shutil.move12:45
superm1when it backs up the old file12:45
superm1i'll commit that quickly12:45
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lagabai.12:48
=== superm1 fixed 1 bug in m-c-c, how many did laga fix? :)
superm1okay i'll cu later, off to class12:49
lagahow many bugs did you fix in my xmltv grabber?12:49
superm1haha12:49
laga:P12:49
lagadon't make me come after you with an IBM model m12:49
laga(i fixed a bunch in there, btw. :P)12:51
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lagasuperm1: looks like compile-type=apport is gonna be checked in real soon01:13

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