[03:15] <mneptok> if anyone cares, i'm all for making xp_killer's recent ban by Tm_T permanent. he's had a ton of second chances.
[03:17] <Tm_T> mneptok: I'm temted to think also that way
[03:17] <nalioth> if anyone cares, i vote for banning Windows Xp from all of humanity
[03:17] <mneptok> nalioth: in favor of Vista?
[03:17] <mneptok> *shudder*
[03:17] <jdong> yay vista :)
[03:18] <Gary> vista is lovely
[03:18] <jdong> with Microsoft (R) WMDRM (TM) Security And Moral Technolgoies!
[03:18] <mneptok> Gary: we're talking about the OS. not the view down your pants.
[03:20] <nalioth> nobody wants Vista, they're returning to XP in droves
[03:20] <nalioth> if XP isn't available, they'll have to turn to Ubuntu
[03:20] <nalioth> muwahahahahahahahaha
[03:21] <Gary> nalioth, but they seem to be turning to OSX
[03:21] <nalioth> Gary: and?
[03:21] <Gary> and, wooo
[03:21] <Gary> the new imac, with the great reviews has come at just the right time
[03:21] <jrib> when will the return to the shell happen?
[03:21] <jdong> when the next kernel update rolls out?
[03:21] <nalioth> jrib: return to the shell?
[03:21] <jdong> ROFL
[03:22] <jrib> jdong: heh
[03:22] <jrib> nalioth: no more gui
[03:22] <Gary> jdong, you really ought to not laugh at your own jokes
[03:22] <Tm_T> jdong: you mean; when we break all X drivers "by mistake, sowwy"
[03:22] <jdong> Gary: hey 3/4 of the time they're only funny to me
[03:22] <jdong> Gary: I can entertain my lonely self if I so desire!
[03:23] <iBEdaMAN> hello can anybody help me
[03:23] <Tm_T> jdong: I so second that
[03:23] <jrib> iBEdaMAN: hi, what do you need help with?
[03:23] <nalioth> jrib: oh, i live almost that lifestyle now
[03:23] <iBEdaMAN> i got banned from #ubuntu and i was wondering why they have great support and i really need it rright now so i would like to know why im banned
[03:25] <iBEdaMAN> Is there any way you can tell me how i got banned from this server jrib
[03:25] <jrib> iBEdaMAN: was your nick "ubuntu" at the time?
[03:25] <iBEdaMAN> jrib: yes because i was on live cd
[03:26] <iBEdaMAN> jrib: and i didnt know how to change it
[03:26] <iBEdaMAN> jrib: im kinda new to irc chat sry =] 
[03:27] <jrib> tonyyarusso: you around?
[03:27] <iBEdaMAN> Tm_T: im interested too 
[03:28] <Tm_T> but different reasons I believe ;)
[03:28] <iBEdaMAN> Tm_T: why?
[03:28] <Tm_T> mneptok: feel free to comment the ban in bantracker, btw
[03:28] <Tm_T> iBEdaMAN: I'm only curious, you have real needs
[03:29] <mneptok> iBEdaMAN: "gay" is 100% unacceptable as a term of derision in #8ubuntu* channels
[03:29] <iBEdaMAN> mneptok: i used gay?
[03:29] <mneptok> iBEdaMAN: referring to something as "gay" will get you banned. that's why you're banned.
[03:30] <mneptok> iBEdaMAN: yes, you did.
[03:30] <iBEdaMAN> mneptok: i said thats gay like i said gay because of when he said it couldnt be fixed i said wow thats gay
[03:31] <iBEdaMAN> mneptok: is that still bad?
[03:31] <mneptok> iBEdaMAN: "gay" is 100% unacceptable as a term of derision in #8ubuntu* channels
[03:31] <mneptok> i can wait while you look up "derision"
[03:31] <iBEdaMAN> mneptok: so i cant be unbanned right? wow thats gay
[03:32] <jrib> ...
[03:32] <jdong> nice choice of response.
[03:32] <nalioth> doggone
[03:32] <jdong> wow.
[03:32] <Tm_T> nooooo
[03:32] <Gary> those who shout the loudest often are... :p
[03:32] <jdong> Gary: gentoo devs?
[03:33] <Tm_T> hum hum hum
[03:33] <Gary> I really hate the latest trend of using "gay" or "ghey" as a method of saying "rubbish"
[03:33] <Tm_T> I hate it too
[03:33] <jdong> it's really catching on in popular culture though :-/
[03:33] <jdong> I hear that expression a lot
[03:33] <mneptok> "incredighey" is OK, though.
[03:33] <Tm_T> especially if you read "gay" as "hilarious/funny"
[03:33] <Tm_T> or was it "joyful"
[03:34] <Tm_T> anyway
[03:34] <mneptok> Tm_T: the latter
[03:34] <Tm_T> my point doesnt depend on that :)
[03:34] <Gary> you know, we had some dork in #GayGeeks going "you folks are so gay" a while back, we were like "wow, really"
[03:34] <Tm_T> haha
[03:34] <Gary> it was like he was soooooo brainy
[03:34] <jdong> is #gaygeeks what it sounds like?
[03:34] <mneptok> it's weird that "gay" became a term for homosexuality before the sexual revolution. i have to think homosexuals living prior to the 1960s were probably anything *but* "gay."
[03:35] <Gary> jdong, maybe
[03:35] <Gary> how does it sound?
[03:35] <jdong> Gary: like a hangout place for homosexual geeks?
[03:35] <Gary> yes it is
[03:35] <jdong> how aptly named then
[03:35] <Gary> rather
[03:36] <mneptok> jdong: and homosexuals that bite the heads off chickens
[03:36] <Gary> so to join and be like that, was slighty amusing
[03:36] <jdong> Gary: I'm sure that gets cliche in there
[03:36] <Gary> jdong, we like to wind them up a little
[03:37] <Gary> in the end they normally get abusive enough/boring enough to ban
[03:37] <mneptok> Gary: sans lube? please say yes. it makes me feel karma is working on IRC.
[03:37] <jdong> O_O
[03:37] <mneptok> :(
[03:37] <jdong> so this is why people aren't allowed to idle here :)
[03:37] <Gary> jdong, lol
[03:37] <Tm_T> er?
[03:37] <Gary> it's rusty mneptok 
[03:37] <jdong> the world starts to make sense
[03:38] <Tm_T> what
[03:38] <mneptok> Gary: i know. i suck on it at night for security. :/
[03:38] <mneptok> Gary: and also, about that halo ....
[03:38] <Tm_T> ok, you lost me totally
[03:38] <mneptok> *bah dum tish*
[03:38] <Gary> Tm_T, lucky you
[03:38] <jdong> lol
[03:38] <jdong> Tm_T: better your mind stay untainted :)
[03:39] <Tm_T> btw I need help
[03:39] <Gary> we noticed
[03:39] <Tm_T> or, bah
[03:39] <Pici> This isnt a support channel
[03:39] <Pici> <.<
[03:39] <jdong> LOL
[03:39] <Tm_T> Pici: really?
[03:39] <mneptok> Pici: explains my saggy manboobs.
[03:39] <Pici> Tm_T: Thats what they keep telling me
[03:39] <Pici> mneptok: ...
[03:39] <Gary> mneptok, eeeeewww
[03:39] <Tm_T> Pici: shame
[03:40] <Tm_T> mneptok: use ductape
[03:40] <mneptok> Pici: what?! they're lush with he-milk *just for you*!
[03:40] <jdong> "duct tape"
[03:40] <Tm_T> jdong: thats what I meant
[03:40] <Pici> I need to find something horrible to look at the get that mental image out of my brain
[03:40] <Tm_T> I do some mistyping with this new keyboard and sleepless night
[03:41] <Tm_T> Pici: like my pic?
[03:41] <jdong> Pici: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[03:41] <jdong> </badubuntujoke #2>
[04:10] <gnomefreak> jdong: you gonna be around tomorrow?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> tomorrow == around 12 hours from now atleast
[04:11] <jdong> gnomefreak: why do you ask? (probalby in and out of class)
[04:11] <gnomefreak> because i have some sleep to get and i have java questions and i know you have had your hand in java (atleast i think you did)
[04:12] <jdong> ok, you can ask, but I probably will be next to useless...
[04:12] <jdong> (my hand in java was relatively nontechnical)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[04:12] <gnomefreak> who is maintainer (cant rememrber)
[04:13] <jdong> doko does a lot of Java
[04:13] <mneptok> gnomefreak: doko
[04:13] <jdong> and he seems very well versed in it
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ty thats him
[04:13] <mneptok> i think he's on his way back from Spain, ATM
[04:14] <gnomefreak> jdong: ill ping him and asac if hes around. i saw him erlier today
[04:14] <gnomefreak> maybe 12 hours ago
[04:14] <Tm_T> lovely
[04:15] <gnomefreak> see if i cant add it in heron
[04:15] <mneptok> gnomefreak: asac is mostly doing Mozilla stuff and network-mangler
[04:15] <Tm_T> now I got 39 windows binded in irssi to shortkeys
[04:15] <jdong> ok
[04:15] <gnomefreak> but info on both ends are gonna be needed. anyway good night ladies and gents
[04:15] <mneptok> gnomefreak: Sun has no 64 bit Java *plugin*, AFAIK
[04:15] <gnomefreak> they have jre
[04:15] <gnomefreak> iirc
[04:16] <mneptok> which is the show-stopper for a lot of AMD64 users
[04:16] <jdong> show-stoppin at the little spot...
[04:16] <jdong> my favorite bug hunting song
[04:16] <gnomefreak> mneptok: as of gutsy nspluginwrapper works great (so i hear) and ive had hand in that alot more than i should have
[04:17] <mneptok> gnomefreak: even hearing you say it makes me feel dirty ;)
[04:17] <gnomefreak> eh work on it after iceape fix tomorrow
[04:17] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> jrib: here now
[04:37] <nalioth> oh, NOW you get here.  :P
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> I have class you know.... :P
[04:39] <nalioth> class? you?
[04:39] <jdong> dum dum-chhhhh
[04:40] <mneptok> you have about as much class as a scholl in July
[04:40] <mneptok> *school
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> walked into those
[04:40] <mneptok> and we know you're not Australian
[05:21] <ubotu> LadyNikon called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> erm, wow
[05:22] <nixternal> yay
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> have fun
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: Is CTCP VERSION blocked by +R?  I wasn't sure.
[05:25] <Madpilot> massive f'ing bot attack?
[05:25] <mneptok> Madpilot: ay
[05:25] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: AFAIK, +R means "only registered users can join"
[05:25] <Tm_T> well that was biggest thus far
[05:25] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: i doubt all those zombie nicks are registered
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: capital +R is "can talk", +r is join
[05:26] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: 23:25 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- The nickname [Rattlers]  is not registered
[05:26] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: so how did he get into a +r #ubuntu?
[05:28] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: i need to hop the Metro home. can you watch #ubuntu and -R+r when things seem quiet?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: I don't see that nick's join
[05:29] <mneptok> 23:20 -!- Rattlers [n=standing@74-61-98-201.mdo.clearwire-dns.net]  has joined #ubuntu
[05:29] <mneptok> 23:20 Rattlers [n=standing@74-61-98-201.mdo.clearwire-dns.net]  requested CTCP VERSION from #ubuntu: 
[05:29] <mneptok> 23:21 -!- Rattlers [n=standing@74-61-98-201.mdo.clearwire-dns.net]  has quit [Excess Flood] 
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: that was before the +r
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> See http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:30] <mneptok> i really need to go
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> k
[05:30] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: i need to hop the Metro home. can you watch #ubuntu and -R+r when things seem quiet?
[05:30] <mneptok> (x2)
[05:30] <mneptok> :)
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: yes
[05:30] <Tm_T> mneptok: see ya
[05:31] <mneptok> thanks :)
[05:32] <mneptok> (i'm *so* dead when she reads that)
[05:32] <mneptok> *pewf*
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> yup
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> Considering he's in a different hemisphere, I vote mailbomb.
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: i have ways and means.
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> or merely lurking until a convenient UDS, then LongPointyStick 
[05:38] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: ah yes....
[05:38] <Tm_T> we are doooooooomed!
[08:28] <Hobbsee> jussi01: a fire.
[08:28] <Hobbsee> a bonfire, to be exact
[08:28] <jussi01> heh
[08:29] <jussi01> should known...
[08:30] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Was the long pointy stick _on fire_?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> RAOF: somewhat.
[08:31] <Hobbsee> ie, at times.
[08:31] <RAOF> Heh.
[08:51] <ompaul> nixternal, change your ISP, you have unstable high, as opposed to stable low
[11:14] <stdin> yo man
[03:02] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !dk is <reply> For dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. #ubuntu, #kubuntu osv. er kun ment til engelskproget support!
[03:03] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !dk is <reply> For dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gaa til #ubuntu-dk. #ubuntu, #kubuntu osv. er kun ment til engelskproget support!
[03:05] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !warsow is <alias> games
[03:06] <Pici> eww
[03:06] <nalioth> no. wait.  i'm eating spam fo breakfast
[03:06] <Gary> ummmmm spam
[03:06] <Gary> spam spam spamspamspam :-)
[03:07] <Tm_T> love ham? say wham!
[03:16] <Pici> hmm...
[03:16] <Pici> Canonical is having issues and as such *.ubuntu.com is down. So... no wiki for factoids etc..
[03:17] <jdong> yep, forums down too, and so on
[03:17] <rob> joy.
[03:18] <rob> dam laptop keyboard.
[03:18] <Seveas> and the bot is up too
[03:18] <Seveas> !ping
[03:18] <ubotu> pong
[03:19] <mc44> with all it's useful links to the wiki l(
[03:19] <mc44> ;)
[03:19] <rob> woot. #ubuntu is holding up the fort!
[03:19] <rob> mc44, guess you had better be on your toes then ;)
[03:31] <Pici> Well, its back.
[03:32] <rob> yep
[03:34] <rob> hmm, help.ubuntu.com is having issues still
[03:34] <Pici> hm
[03:45] <jrib> nixternal: staying?
[03:45] <Pici> He should just disconnect for the night/when hes away.
[03:46] <rob> forums are back up, help. is not yet
[03:49] <rob> jrib, ?
[03:50] <jrib> nixternal: banned your nick from #ubuntu to stop with the join/part spam
[03:50] <rob> oh
[03:52] <rob> looks like everything is back up
[03:53] <rob> yup.
[05:18] <LjL> meh. we italians are way ahead, and i didn't even know - http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/ErroreTTY
[05:19] <LjL> now i'll have something to give about all of the 10^10 people who complain about generic tty errors on boot
[05:25] <Pici> LjL: feel like doing some translating? ;)
[05:25] <LjL> Pici: yes
[05:25] <LjL> i think we miss a "This page in other languages" link on the wiki like Wikipedia has, by the way
[05:26] <mc44> LjL: what does that page suggest?
[05:26] <mc44> (briefly :P)
[05:27] <jdong> mc44: at least you can read grub :)
[05:27] <jdong> mc44: it replaces the UUID moutnline with an absolute physical device name
[05:27] <Pici> something about setting the acpi option to or from force 
[05:27] <mc44> jdong: tl;dr :P
[05:28] <jdong> also adds 2 boot options that work around a few AHCI/chipset quirks
[05:28] <jdong> aww, look at the adorable use of reiserfs-notails!
[05:28] <mc44> hmm, I'm not sure that will fix many of the tty problems
[05:28] <mc44> but hey
[05:28] <LjL> mc44: 1) acpi=force 2) irqpoll 3) putting a floppy in the drive 4) changing a wrong root UUID (actually, changing it into /dev/blah) 5) checking initrd sanity
[05:28] <LjL> and putting the boot options above in grub
[05:28] <LjL> jdong: which is?
[05:29] <jdong> LjL: the worst long-term-health way of treating a reiserfs volume?
[05:29] <LjL> mc44, at least it's something, i've seen that sort of problem reported *tons* of times, and i always wondered why we don't even have a factoid
[05:29] <LjL> jdong: technically speaking?
[05:29] <mc44> LjL: because no one knew what the problem was :)
[05:29] <mc44> well, what the many problems were
[05:29] <mc44> I'm still convinced they are mostly ATA bugs from the kernel
[05:30] <jdong> LjL: disabling tail compacting of reiserfs; increases performance, but increases internal fragmentation and causes long-term performance of the volume to go down the tubes
[05:32] <jdong> mailservers are excused from using it though; huge performance boost there due to rapid actions with metadata
[05:32] <LjL> jdong: uhm, tail compacting meaning the reservation of some free space in order to let files grow without fragmentation?
[05:32] <jdong> LjL: no, it means storing small-sized viles within the tree structure rather than allocating data blocks
[05:32] <LjL> mc44: and when they're ATA bugs, do you know of any workarounds that worked around?
[05:33] <mc44> upgrade to the newer kernel :P
[05:33] <mc44> kinda hard to do from the liveCD admittedly :P
[05:33] <jdong> mc44: lol
[05:33] <LjL> jdong: ah, when the file contents is smaller than the file name ;)
[05:33] <jdong> LjL: empty or near-empty files are more common than thought :)
[05:33] <LjL> ollla
[05:33] <jdong> missed it
[05:35] <jdong> anyway, unfortunately it's back to class for me.
[06:04] <LjL> !ttyerror | mc44, Pici, jdong
[06:04] <ubotu> mc44, Pici, jdong: If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[06:05] <mc44> anyway, with gutsy beta about to be out, can't we forget about feisty? :)
[06:05] <Pici> woo
[06:05] <LjL> and who says the errors won't go away with gutsy
[06:05] <LjL> will, even
[06:05] <mc44> I bet 20 internet pence they will ;)
[06:07] <jdong> cool
[06:08] <jdong> ooh the good chem professor is lecturing today....
[06:08] <mc44> jdong: what are you learning about?
[06:08] <LjL> chemistry?=
[06:08] <jdong> mc44: meh simple intro to quantum mechanical model, electron spin currently...
[06:08] <mc44> fun :)
[06:09] <jdong> lol sure... :)
[06:09] <mc44> no, really
[06:09] <jdong> yeah, I thought I'd give theoretical chem a shot.
[06:09] <mc44> it's just physics :)
[06:09] <LjL> must be electron spin week, friends of mine are studying the same
[06:10] <LjL> the only thing that spins is my head when i hear about it, though
[06:10] <jdong> mc44: I like physics :)
[06:12] <jdong> cool he uses firefox too
[06:12] <jdong> bonus brownie points
[06:12] <Pici> brownies? where?
[06:13] <jdong> Pici: actually they're selling them for a fundraiser outside 10-250. come over!
[06:13] <Pici> ooh
[06:13] <Pici> Sure, its only like a 4 hour drive
[06:13] <jdong> that's not bad at all
[06:14] <jdong> he's ripping on Pauli currently :)
[06:15] <mc44> bah, Pauli was awesome
[06:18] <jdong> more like pita....
[06:18] <mc44> ola! milk is murder!
[06:20] <LjL-Temp> [18:17:14]  --> peta has joined this channel (n=peta@83.230.234.62).
[06:20] <LjL> !ola
[06:20] <ubotu> "Hola" tiene una H inicial. Y puesto que el autor de este mensaje no habla espaol pero esribe "hola", *tu* podrias tambien hacer el esfuerzo! Pero, hagalo en #ubuntu-es, por que aqu solo hablamos ingls.
[06:20] <LjL-Temp> works
[06:21] <jrib>  jaja
[06:22] <mc44> jaja binks
[06:23] <jdong> ROFL
[06:23] <jdong> LjL: you need a trigger...
[06:23] <LjL> jdong: the trigger is 83.230
[06:23] <jdong> foo@83.238.123.223
[06:24] <jdong> pfft
[06:24] <mc44> @83.230
[06:24] <LjL> !ola
[06:24] <mc44> hahaha
[06:24] <ubotu> "Hola" tiene una H inicial. Y puesto que el autor de este mensaje no habla espaol pero esribe "hola", *tu* podrias tambien hacer el esfuerzo! Pero, hagalo en #ubuntu-es, por que aqu solo hablamos ingls.
[06:24] <jussi01> lol
[06:24] <jussi01> jdong: be nice to the mac....
[06:24] <LjL> mc44, say it in -offtopic too please, need to make sure it doesn't go to the wrong channel (i.e. the one i'm in rather than the one they join)
[06:25] <mc44> LjL: you're a bit slow
[06:25] <LjL> 213 ms lag
[06:25] <mc44> :)
[06:25] <jdong> can someone say something in unicode?
[06:26] <LjL>  
[06:26] <jdong> sweet, it works
[06:26] <LjL>  ?
[06:26] <jdong> no comprendo?
[06:26] <LjL> no importa :)
[06:26] <jdong> iTerm's silly ASCII defaults...
[06:35] <Pici> !ge
[06:35] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[06:35] <mc44> ooo pretty
[06:35] <jdong> ok that doesn't work :)
[06:35] <LjL> and meaningless
[06:35] <Pici> I get square boxes here.
[06:35] <jdong> so do I
[06:35] <LjL> !ola
[06:35] <ubotu> "Hola" tiene una H inicial. Y puesto que el autor de este mensaje no habla espaol pero esribe "hola", *tu* podrias tambien hacer el esfuerzo! Pero, hagalo en #ubuntu-es, por que aqu solo hablamos ingls.
[06:36] <jdong> ROFL
[06:36] <jdong> success!
[06:36] <guayolanda> hola
[06:36] <mc44> I get lovely squggles
[06:36] <jdong> macI get rectangular mirrored asperands.
[06:36] <LjL> well he did give it an H
[06:38] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, DaSkreech said: !nocdinstall is Wwould you like to stop wasting Cds and help mother earth? issue with your  optical drive booting? take a look at http://instantfundas.blogspot.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html and see if it helps either situation!
[06:38] <jdong> heh, tinyurl, and make it sound less advertisement-ish?
[06:39] <jdong> just one scoop of oxy-clean!
[06:39] <Pici> Billy Mays says....
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Hello
[06:40] <DaSkreech> I just submitted a factoid
[06:41] <DaSkreech> any chance of getting a review?
[06:41] <LjL> yes, a minute
[06:42] <LjL> !no install is <reply> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:42] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[06:43] <LjL> !nocdinstall is <alias> install
[06:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[06:44] <DaSkreech> LjL: thanks
[06:58] <LjL> !no ge is <reply>       #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge
[06:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[06:58] <mc44> ...
[06:59] <LjL> mc44: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_alphabet#Transcription
[06:59] <LjL> spell check me now :P
[07:00] <mc44> LjL: just changing the letters doesn't usually work :P
[07:00] <gnomefreak> what with all the ?????
[07:00] <LjL> gnomefreak: broken unicode of yours
[07:00] <mc44> you all don't have very good utf :)
[07:00] <gnomefreak> oh shouldnt be broken :(
[07:01] <LjL> mc44: uh, why not? says it's a standard transliteration table. all the non-latin loco channel factoids (that i could spot) have a latin transliteration in case one can't read utf8
[07:01] <mc44> LjL: you should ask in -ge if it's right :P
[07:02] <LjL> except it's empty aside for the locobot
[07:02] <mc44> haha
[07:02] <mc44> what a useful factoid :)
[07:02] <LjL> like most of those weird-language-factoids
[07:03] <LjL> i do have some doubts that i might have mistransliterated "gtkhovt" and "...brdz..."
[07:03] <LjL> they don't look exactly pronounceable
[07:03] <LjL> but then there's so many things i would never think pronounceable, that are
[07:36] <tigreso> hola wapa
[07:37] <jussi01> lol
[07:37] <jdong> aww LjL entered a few seconds too late
[07:37] <jussi01> hehe
[07:38] <LjL> i'm sure we'll have many other chances
[07:42] <LjL> !ola
[07:42] <ubotu> "Hola" tiene una H inicial. Y puesto que el autor de este mensaje no habla espaol pero esribe "hola", *tu* podrias tambien hacer el esfuerzo! Pero, hagalo en #ubuntu-es, por que aqu solo hablamos ingls.
[07:42] <jrib> maybe you should only trigger when an 83.230.* says "ola"
[07:42] <LjL> !ola
[07:44] <Pici> 83.230
[07:44] <LjL> !ola
[07:44] <ubotu> "Hola" tiene una H inicial. Y puesto que el autor de este mensaje no habla espaol pero esribe "hola", *tu* podrias tambien hacer el esfuerzo! Pero, hagalo en #ubuntu-es, por que aqu solo hablamos ingls.
[07:44] <Pici> 83.230
[07:44] <LjL> !ola
[07:44] <jrib> ...
[07:44] <LjL> jrib, that isn't possible with konv
[07:45] <LjL> !b | pici
[07:45] <ubotu> pici: b is an IRC mode that you don't want on your hostname.
[07:45] <jrib> LjL: get a real irc client?
[07:45] <LjL> !b | jrib
[07:45] <ubotu> jrib: b is an IRC mode that you don't want on your hostname.
[07:46] <Pici> u
[07:46] <LjL> !u
[07:46] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:47] <jrib> ha: www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/foia/ttab/2dissues/2002/75368461.pdf
[07:48] <jrib> see footnote 6
[07:49] <LjL> !no u is <reply> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:49] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[07:51] <LjL> warning #ubuntu d-lined people
[07:53] <jdong> what's a d-line?
[07:53] <jdong> global IP ban?
[07:54] <PriceChild> gah
[07:54] <PriceChild> jdong, they don't exist
[07:54] <LjL> " A D-line will prevent the client from connecting at all, regardless of whether they try DNS spoofing or not. If the server supports the DLINE command, you can do /dline ipmask :reason. "
[07:54] <jdong> don't exist, as in don't exist, or "don't exist"?
[07:55] <PriceChild> jdong, they "don't exist"
[07:55] <PriceChild> what ljl said :)
[07:55] <jdong> ah, ok  gotcha :)
[07:55] <PriceChild> either way.... not fun :)
[07:55] <jdong> agreed :)
[08:07] <LjL> going for dinner, i think i can -r relatively safely, just keep an eye
[08:20] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:00] <Gary> wow, what did I miss?
[09:00] <Pici> I think hes being banforwarded because of that message.
[09:00] <Gary> yeah
[09:01] <Gary> did he/she not say anything then?
[09:01] <LjL> Pici: yes indeed
[09:01] <LjL> don't think i've seen him saying anything ever
[09:01] <Pici> Gary: Between your quit and rejoin? nothing happened.
[09:01] <Pici> Him and yoman never talk.
[09:01] <LjL> yoman i don't think is forwarded, though
[09:01] <Gary> I wish I had the skillz to come up with such a insightful quit message
[09:02] <ompaul> Gary, you do, the problem is you would have to dumb down a lot to get to that level :)
[09:02] <Pici> I dont know what yoman is doing here, I did a bit of grepping between my logs and the bantracker and couldnt find anything.
[09:02] <LjL> by the way yoman_80, how are you?
[09:02] <Gary> a lot?  like totally
[09:02] <ompaul> travelling I think
[09:02] <Gary> who is raof and swat?
[09:03] <ompaul> yeap I guess
[09:03] <Pici> raof is a motu I think
[09:03] <Pici> I dont know why hes here though.
[09:03] <LjL> and i don't know why he isn't registered
[09:03] <Gary> and swat is a ubuntu member
[09:04] <Gary> it was just the all caps nick which got me
[09:04] <LjL> RAOF: good idea of the day: tell your IRC client to use your nickserv password as password
[09:46] <ikonia> evening
[10:00] <oriez\> for some reason i got banned from #Ubuntu channel, like a week ago and they forgot to take it off WTF Should i do my ubuntu doesn't boot up
[10:01] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[10:01] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:01] <LjL> sigh
[10:01] <jrib> yeah, I got that 4 times straight now
[10:01] <gnomefreak> ok thats not good
[10:01] <LjL> well, for me the site just doesn't load
[10:01] <gnomefreak> oh good its not just me
[10:01] <oriez\> "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"!!!??????????
[10:01] <LjL> seveaaaaaaaas
[10:01] <gnomefreak> not good but though it was me not identified
[10:02] <PriceChild> are you sure its @ ?
[10:02] <PriceChild> %btlogin
[10:03] <PriceChild> blah, % works fine
[10:03] <oriez\> for some reason i got banned from #Ubuntu channel, like a week ago and they forgot to take it off WTF Should i do my ubuntu doesn't boot up
[10:03] <LjL> oriez\: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=soft+lockup+boot&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[10:03] <PriceChild> .@ used to be ubugtu's control char, and i think ubotu's just a little quirky with ubugtu's old code
[10:04] <PriceChild> oriez\, we don't "forget" to remove bans. gimme a min.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> thats a hell of a link
[10:04] <LjL> ah yes, i did that ban
[10:04] <LjL> gnomefreak: sorry
[10:05] <gnomefreak> its all good :) ff doesnt want to open it though
[10:05] <PriceChild> oriez\, sure you don't remember why you were banned/
[10:05] <LjL> oriez\, i believe you should consider better where exactly you are, before telling dubious jokes
[10:05] <oriez\> no
[10:05] <LjL> gnomefreak, it's just bugs.ubuntu.com with "soft lockup boot" as search keywords
[10:05] <oriez\> it was 2 weeks ago
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i saw that
[10:05] <LjL> well no, it was one
[10:07] <oriez\> whatever, when i will be able to get to the chan again
[10:07] <oriez\> ?
[10:07] <LjL> oriez\, well, meanwhile, the link i gave you (if you can open it) will give you a lot of reading that might possibly help you with your boot error
[10:07] <oriez\> i can't open it
[10:07] <PriceChild> oriez\, have you read the ubuntu-irc channel guidelines?
[10:07] <PriceChild> ubotu's pm'ing you a coppy now.
[10:07] <LjL> if you can't open it, just open http://bugs.ubuntu.com and type in "soft lockup boot". there's a few things that look interesting
[10:08] <oriez\> ubuntu forums doesnt work as well
[10:08] <PriceChild> oriez\, canonical (hosting ubuntuforums.org) has been having some issues lately but they are resolved and full service should be availiable.
[10:08] <PriceChild> LjL, the link does work
[10:09] <LjL> aside from that oriez\, i really don't know what to say... i'll ask you: what would you do if someone joined a support channel and, right after joining, spammed the channel (since it was 6 lines) with a really distasteful "joke" that's totally not related to Ubuntu and is likely to offend more than a few?
[10:10] <oriez\>  nobody was offend
[10:10] <LjL> how on earth do you know?
[10:11] <oriez\> maybe they offend but not because of me
[10:11] <LjL> again, how do you know?
[10:12] <LjL> do you really think your "joke" wasn't likely offensive?
[10:12] <oriez> let me ask you, how do you know?
[10:12] <oriez> yep
[10:12] <LjL> well, i was offended
[10:12] <LjL> so, that's one -- i know
[10:12] <LjL> well in that case i'm sorry, but your idea of "offensive" is far, far away from my own idea of "offensive"
[10:13] <PriceChild> oriez, #ubuntu is a channel of over a thousand people from different backgrounds, beliefs, workplaces and homes. We ask that all users follow the ubuntu-irc guidelines so as to keep a pleasant atmosphere and not offend any of our users.
[10:13] <LjL> unfortunately for you, my own idea of "offensive" counts more than yours does, in here -- so, do you think you could avoid saying things that *i* am likely to find offensive?
[10:13] <PriceChild> oriez, #ubuntu is for ubuntu support _only_ and such tasteless attempts at humour are also grossly offtopic.
[10:13] <oriez> to you think - "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" - is not offensive
[10:14] <oriez> *do
[10:14] <LjL> oriez: ehm.. no, that's not offensive
[10:14] <LjL> although you could probably state your question in a more elaborate and informative manner
[10:14] <oriez> for me it's offensive
[10:14] <LjL> oh! i see now
[10:14] <LjL> you're a troll
[10:14] <LjL> bye
[10:15] <oriez> no i am not
[10:15] <PriceChild> oriez, the ban will not be lifted at this time.
[10:15] <PriceChild> oriez, I suggest you read the ubuntu-irc guidelines that ubotu has provided you with, and come back in a few weeks after reflecting on what's happenned.
[10:17] <PriceChild> ubotu, hey oriez?
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hey oriez? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <uboto> hey
[10:18] <LjL> you're not funny
[10:18] <PriceChild> *uboto
[10:18] <PriceChild> *thwacks tab completion*
[10:18] <LjL> i mean, funnier than that joke, but still not funny
[10:19] <uboto> ubuntu sites, forums and everything doesn't ubuntu doesn't boot up windows working fine
[10:20] <uboto> how funny is that?
[10:20] <LjL> not funny
[10:20] <LjL> however
[10:20] <gnomefreak> might i suggest using only one nick at a time
[10:21] <LjL> i *did* give you a link that is probably useful to solve that
[10:21] <LjL> you should be thankful that i did, given the troll that you are
[10:21] <uboto> fuck you all
[10:21] <LjL> have a nice day you too
[10:22] <gnomefreak> that got old fast
[10:23] <gnomefreak> please feel free to lift ban if it is stopping him from recieving a fair shot in here (but IMHO he doesnt deserve one now after all that)
[10:24] <LjL> i could give him a shot but i don't have a gun and i'm against physical violence
[10:24] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:24] <ikonia> that was interesting
[10:24] <nalioth> the ban in here can stand a day or so
[10:25] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, remove it in half an hour or something... :/ He won't come back tonight imo, and its bad to ban people from here.
[10:25] <PriceChild> what he said
[10:25] <nalioth> i'm not comfortable at all with a troll /nicking to uboto
[10:25] <gnomefreak> i dont like banning people in here at all but he wasnt helping himself and starting look alot like a troll the more it went on
[10:26] <LjL> nalioth, i'm keeping the nickname on watch and will register it as soon as he parts
[10:27] <PriceChild> LjL, hehe i'll stop waiting then
[11:54] <ompaul>  Declined  for Feisty  by Ben Collins  
[11:54] <ompaul> woops that was about the above bug
[11:57] <LjL> ompaul: what bug?
[11:58] <ompaul> the one that some could and not 
[11:58] <ompaul> click on it
[11:58] <LjL> err, i'd click on it
[11:58] <LjL> but i wasn't in the channel when you posted it
[11:58] <gnomefreak> there isnt one
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[11:58] <ompaul> that one gf said he couldnot use FF on it
[11:58] <ompaul> I could
[11:58] <ompaul> in xchat
[11:59] <LjL> ah
[11:59] <LjL> well i'm on konv and i use konqueror :)
[12:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, king said: what is a bot
[12:51] <Pici> I'm trying to explain it..
[12:58] <LjL> tell him to install megahal