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| sommer | dendrobates: are you about? | 03:44 |
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| wasabi | Is anybody supporting iscsi targets? | 05:17 |
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| soren | ajmitch: Thanks! | 07:16 |
| ajmitch | soren: now you'll be able to get bugfixes uploaded much faster :) | 07:18 |
| soren | ajmitch: Yeah. This is going to make my day much easier. | 07:22 |
| ajmitch | I see that I didn't fix samba properly | 07:23 |
| soren | ajmitch: Oh? I haven't really paid much attention to bug mail for about a week. I've been a bit tied up. | 07:26 |
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| ScottK | Thanks to the recent 'improvements' in LP there are a lot fewer open now. | 07:26 |
| soren | \o/ :) | 07:27 |
| ScottK | I'll leave it at that. Too much thinking about LP right before I go to bed is not helpful for getting to sleep. | 07:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 07:28 |
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| ncopa | hi | 08:21 |
| soren | 'morning. | 08:21 |
| ncopa | im looking at the kernel config for ubuntu server | 08:22 |
| ncopa | noticed that NAPI is turned off on NIC drivers | 08:22 |
| ncopa | does anyone know why its disabled? | 08:22 |
| ncopa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_API | 08:22 |
| soren | ncopa: I see it's enabled for a few drivers. | 08:33 |
| soren | ncopa: Which nic do you have? | 08:33 |
| soren | ...and which version of Ubuntu are we talking about? | 08:33 |
| ncopa | well... its a general question | 08:33 |
| ncopa | im building a distro myslef | 08:33 |
| ncopa | and its supposed to support as many nic as possible | 08:34 |
| soren | I don't know why it's enabled for some and disabled for others. You should try in #ubuntu-kernel, but most of the kernel team is in the US, so they're probably asleep. | 08:35 |
| ncopa | ok, thanks alot | 08:36 |
| soren | np | 08:36 |
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| kraut | moin | 09:55 |
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| ivoks | soren: congratz! :D | 11:33 |
| soren | ivoks: \o/ | 11:33 |
| soren | Thanks! | 11:33 |
| ivoks | hehe | 11:34 |
| ivoks | now i'll nag you about patches for main :D | 11:34 |
| soren | :) | 11:34 |
| freeflying | soren: congrats! | 11:41 |
| soren | freeflying: thanks! :) | 11:41 |
| === ajmitch can nag soren now :) | ||
| soren | ajmitch: Yeah, and then I can tell you to go fix it yourself :) | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | haha | 12:39 |
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| tepsipakki | quick question; is the FDS autotoolized yet? | 01:22 |
| tepsipakki | fedora directory server, that is | 01:22 |
| TeTeT | soren: congrats to your core dev status! | 01:27 |
| soren | TeTeT: Thanks very much! | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | tepsipakki: 1.1 branch is, with no set release date | 01:29 |
| tepsipakki | ajmitch: thanks.. | 01:31 |
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| === ajmitch should probably just get his fds packages working & shove them into a ppa | ||
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| soren | ajmitch: That would ROCK! | 01:54 |
| tepsipakki | it would | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | once they work | 01:54 |
| soren | bah | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | I'm trying to rebuild it now, and having some small issues :) | 01:55 |
| tepsipakki | btw, what is the DL for UDS specs? | 01:55 |
| soren | dl? | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | deadline | 01:55 |
| tepsipakki | deadline | 01:55 |
| soren | ah | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | the 2nd last day of UDS, probably :) | 01:55 |
| tepsipakki | hehe :) | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | since they scheduled stuff daily | 01:56 |
| tepsipakki | ajmitch: I'll finally make it there :) | 01:56 |
| === ajmitch won't | ||
| tepsipakki | oh crap :/ | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | I wasn't expecting to go | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | nor would I be much use there | 01:56 |
| === ajmitch only looks after a few servers | ||
| soren | Heh. I hardly even do that anymore :) | 02:02 |
| ajmitch | that's because you're special | 02:03 |
| soren | <g> | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | ok, compile errors, I'll care about it later | 02:05 |
| === ajmitch sleep now | ||
| ScottK | soren: I saw you mention vmware-server earlier. I | 02:12 |
| ScottK | I've run into a vmware-player issue and I'm not sure what to do. | 02:12 |
| soren | ScottK: Yes? | 02:12 |
| ScottK | Up for a discussion on it? | 02:12 |
| soren | Sure. | 02:12 |
| ScottK | The vmware-player we have is old, unmaintained and has no kernel modules for Gutsy (as I understand it). | 02:13 |
| ScottK | In Debian there is vmware-package which also provides a vmware-player binary, but we don't have that at all. | 02:13 |
| ScottK | Our vmware-player also happens to be the last openssl 0.9.7 rdepend in the archive. | 02:13 |
| ScottK | So the questions are: | 02:14 |
| ScottK | 1. Is vmware-player as we have it worth having in the archive at all? | 02:14 |
| ScottK | 2. Would it be significantly better to have vmware-package? | 02:15 |
| ScottK | 3. Is it worth inflicting pain on the archive admins to try and get vmware-package into Gutsy? | 02:15 |
| soren | I now very little about -player. It does look somewhat outdated, though. | 02:15 |
| soren | "I *know* very little"... | 02:15 |
| ScottK | 4. Or do we just remove vmware-player and not care? | 02:15 |
| ScottK | soren: That's more than me. | 02:16 |
| soren | I'm not sure how vmware is involved in this. If you look at the changelog, they did at least some of the packaging. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | All I know about it is if we can replace it, we can avoid shipping openssl 0.9.7 in Gutsy and that'd be good. | 02:16 |
| soren | I'm not sure if they intend to update it at some point. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | Well here's the other - http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vmware-package.html | 02:17 |
| ScottK | It looks much more maintained. | 02:17 |
| soren | Ah, it's like java-package. It doesn't actually contain the stuff, but helps package it. | 02:18 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 02:19 |
| ScottK | soren: Any suggestions on who we could take this to? | 02:21 |
| soren | I'll have to talk to mdy about it. I think he knows about the vmware packages. | 02:21 |
| soren | He's not around right now, though. | 02:21 |
| ScottK | soren: Thanks for following up on it. It'd be really cool to dump openssl 0.9.7 if we can do it reasonably. | 02:23 |
| soren | Yeah. | 02:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | theres a canonical server team? | 02:30 |
| soren | Yes. | 02:35 |
| soren | https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-server | 02:36 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser wonders what they do | ||
| soren | Work. | 02:38 |
| zul | Kamping_Kaiser: i dont know something to do with servers ;) | 02:39 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | zul, certainly hope so ;) | 02:39 |
| soren | Kamping_Kaiser: Is there anything in particular you're curious about? | 02:39 |
| soren | Kamping_Kaiser: (If it's not obvious from the context, I'm on that team) | 02:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | soren, a bug i reported got asigned to it, i was wondering what that meant as far as the bug getting fixed meant. the teams page on LP is useless as far as explaing the group | 02:40 |
| ScottK | I thought the description made it very clear what the team was for. | 02:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | unless i'm looking in the wrong place... | 02:41 |
| soren | The LP team was created with the specific purpose of having a team to which private, server related bugs could be assigned. | 02:41 |
| ScottK | Which is what LP says about it. | 02:42 |
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| TeTeT | what's my best choice in profiling a slow app? oprofile, valgrind, anything else? | 03:06 |
| soren | Depends. | 03:07 |
| soren | TeTeT: What is it? | 03:08 |
| TeTeT | soren: an accounting application, GUI driven, kind of a weird text based interface | 03:10 |
| soren | What's it programmed in? | 03:10 |
| TeTeT | soren: I don't know, it's a binary. I suspect C or C++ | 03:17 |
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| soren | TeTeT: That makes it sort of difficult. What do you hope to achieve? | 03:18 |
| TeTeT | soren: to come up with an explanation why every single menu item takes 2-3 seconds to react | 03:19 |
| soren | TeTeT: You could try stracing it. Otherwise, I'm clueless. If it's binary, there's not much information to be collected. | 03:20 |
| TeTeT | soren: agreed | 03:21 |
| TeTeT | soren: it's not stripped, so the function names might be present | 03:21 |
| soren | TeTeT: I'm not sure, really. | 03:25 |
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| zeasier | does ubuntu server have an mail transfer agent installed by default? | 05:40 |
| _ruben | a lamp install might, a minimal install doesnt as far as i recall | 05:40 |
| _ruben | minimal doesnt even have sshd installed for instance | 05:41 |
| zeasier | that's true | 05:41 |
| zeasier | so i guess i have to choose one then | 05:41 |
| _ruben | which is a good thing imo | 05:41 |
| zeasier | yeah | 05:41 |
| lamont | basic security policy is that if it listens on a network port, then you have to install it. | 05:42 |
| _ruben | i'd say its better to pick one yourself starting with nothing, else you'd hafta uninstall first | 05:42 |
| lamont | OTOH, LAMP is a "install this for me" target, so it gets to sidestep that policy a bit | 05:42 |
| _ruben | hmm .. that's a very nice policy imo | 05:42 |
| _ruben | must admit that i havent played much with ubuntu (server), yet | 05:43 |
| zeasier | makes sense to me | 05:43 |
| zeasier | it's pretty handy if you use bzr for revision control | 05:43 |
| _ruben | bzr? | 05:44 |
| zeasier | other distros are understandably behind on bzr packaging | 05:44 |
| zeasier | <a href="http://bazaar-vcs.org/">Welcome - Bazaar Version Control</a> | 05:44 |
| _ruben | looks nice at first sight | 05:47 |
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| ScottK | zeasier: Postfix is the preferred/most supported MTA. | 05:56 |
| zeasier | yeah, i've experience using it | 05:58 |
| zeasier | just not as a "null client" | 05:58 |
| zeasier | which is aparently what i'm trying to do | 05:58 |
| zeasier | though now that i've found some documentation on how to setup a system that way, i'll be sticking with postfix | 05:59 |
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| ScottK | lamont: Should Bug #145263 be against GNU TLS? Is this the LDAP linking issue again? | 06:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 145263 in postfix "segfault in gssapi.c:671" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145263 | 06:30 |
| lamont | ScottK: not postfix's bug, that's for sure... | 06:35 |
| lamont | sasl calls ldap which dies. | 06:35 |
| ScottK | Agreed. Just trying to shove it in the right direction. | 06:35 |
| lamont | so could be the linking thing, could be other braindamage in one or both | 06:35 |
| lamont | and if both libs are involved, then linking for the win | 06:35 |
| ScottK | It looks like it dies in LDAP. so I'll blame that one. | 06:36 |
| ScottK | Even if SASL feeds it garbage, it shouldn't die. | 06:36 |
| lamont | right | 06:37 |
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| ScottK | lamont: Finger pointed at openldap2. | 06:46 |
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| jcastro | keescook: soren: Who wants to run a -server session for ubuntu open week? | 07:59 |
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| keescook | jcastro: hm, soren might be a better choice -- I'm usually neck-deep in security work. If no one else volunteers, I can do it, though. :) | 08:23 |
| ScottK | keescook: Very smooth redirect. | 08:23 |
| keescook | heh | 08:23 |
| jcastro | heh | 08:24 |
| keescook | ScottK: too easy, too. soren's probably asleep atm. :) | 08:24 |
| ScottK | As an added bonus, it's even true. | 08:24 |
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| === ajmitch wouldn't be able to do anything for ubuntu openweek again | ||
| ajmitch | jcastro: you get the job of organising it now? :) | 11:02 |
| jcastro | ajmitch: heh, the schedule at least. | 11:03 |
| jcastro | ajmitch: I'll put you down for 4 or 5 sessions | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | if you do, make sure they're not at 4am NZ time | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | I'm not too coherent around then | 11:04 |
| === ajmitch might be able to do 1 or 2 | ||
| nealmcb | jcastro: when is it? this seems old: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | 11:36 |
| jcastro | week of october 22nd. | 11:38 |
| jcastro | nealmcb: the page will be updated real soon now. | 11:39 |
| nealmcb | jcastro: is that a regular thing the week after a release or something? | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | I think this'll be the 3rd, maybe 4th one now? | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | first one was late november last year, then april, so this is the 3rd | 11:45 |
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