=== dantalizing [n=dan@wsip-70-184-147-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === pschulz01 [n=pschulz0@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-server === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-server === ToonArmy [n=chris@82-32-184-195.cable.ubr04.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:44] dendrobates: are you about? === donspaulding [n=donspaul@74-134-9-210.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === ToonArmy [n=chris@82-32-184-195.cable.ubr04.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@06-150.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === mindframe- [n=mindfram@ip72-207-244-33.br.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server === PanzerMKZ [n=Panzer@06-150.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:17] Is anybody supporting iscsi targets? === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-169-179-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:16] ajmitch: Thanks! [07:18] soren: now you'll be able to get bugfixes uploaded much faster :) [07:22] ajmitch: Yeah. This is going to make my day much easier. [07:23] I see that I didn't fix samba properly [07:26] ajmitch: Oh? I haven't really paid much attention to bug mail for about a week. I've been a bit tied up. === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:26] Thanks to the recent 'improvements' in LP there are a lot fewer open now. [07:27] \o/ :) [07:28] I'll leave it at that. Too much thinking about LP right before I go to bed is not helpful for getting to sleep. [07:28] heh === coNP_ [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-server === ncopa [n=ncopa@213.234.126.134] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:21] hi [08:21] 'morning. [08:22] im looking at the kernel config for ubuntu server [08:22] noticed that NAPI is turned off on NIC drivers [08:22] does anyone know why its disabled? [08:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_API [08:33] ncopa: I see it's enabled for a few drivers. [08:33] ncopa: Which nic do you have? [08:33] ...and which version of Ubuntu are we talking about? [08:33] well... its a general question [08:33] im building a distro myslef [08:34] and its supposed to support as many nic as possible [08:35] I don't know why it's enabled for some and disabled for others. You should try in #ubuntu-kernel, but most of the kernel team is in the US, so they're probably asleep. [08:36] ok, thanks alot [08:36] np === ncopa [n=ncopa@213.234.126.134] has left #ubuntu-server ["Ex-Chat"] === nijaba [n=nbarcet@mx.barcet.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:55] moin === ICU [n=me@sechzig.dd.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:33] soren: congratz! :D [11:33] ivoks: \o/ [11:33] Thanks! [11:34] hehe [11:34] now i'll nag you about patches for main :D [11:34] :) [11:41] soren: congrats! [11:41] freeflying: thanks! :) === ajmitch can nag soren now :) [12:27] ajmitch: Yeah, and then I can tell you to go fix it yourself :) [12:39] haha === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-server === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:22] quick question; is the FDS autotoolized yet? [01:22] fedora directory server, that is [01:27] soren: congrats to your core dev status! [01:27] TeTeT: Thanks very much! [01:29] tepsipakki: 1.1 branch is, with no set release date [01:31] ajmitch: thanks.. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.118.2.151] has joined #ubuntu-server === ajmitch should probably just get his fds packages working & shove them into a ppa === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:54] ajmitch: That would ROCK! [01:54] it would [01:54] once they work [01:55] bah [01:55] I'm trying to rebuild it now, and having some small issues :) [01:55] btw, what is the DL for UDS specs? [01:55] dl? [01:55] deadline [01:55] deadline [01:55] ah [01:55] the 2nd last day of UDS, probably :) [01:55] hehe :) [01:56] since they scheduled stuff daily [01:56] ajmitch: I'll finally make it there :) === ajmitch won't [01:56] oh crap :/ [01:56] I wasn't expecting to go [01:56] nor would I be much use there === ajmitch only looks after a few servers [02:02] Heh. I hardly even do that anymore :) [02:03] that's because you're special [02:05] [02:05] ok, compile errors, I'll care about it later === ajmitch sleep now [02:12] soren: I saw you mention vmware-server earlier. I [02:12] I've run into a vmware-player issue and I'm not sure what to do. [02:12] ScottK: Yes? [02:12] Up for a discussion on it? [02:12] Sure. [02:13] The vmware-player we have is old, unmaintained and has no kernel modules for Gutsy (as I understand it). [02:13] In Debian there is vmware-package which also provides a vmware-player binary, but we don't have that at all. [02:13] Our vmware-player also happens to be the last openssl 0.9.7 rdepend in the archive. [02:14] So the questions are: [02:14] 1. Is vmware-player as we have it worth having in the archive at all? [02:15] 2. Would it be significantly better to have vmware-package? [02:15] 3. Is it worth inflicting pain on the archive admins to try and get vmware-package into Gutsy? [02:15] I now very little about -player. It does look somewhat outdated, though. [02:15] "I *know* very little"... [02:15] 4. Or do we just remove vmware-player and not care? [02:16] soren: That's more than me. [02:16] I'm not sure how vmware is involved in this. If you look at the changelog, they did at least some of the packaging. [02:16] All I know about it is if we can replace it, we can avoid shipping openssl 0.9.7 in Gutsy and that'd be good. [02:16] I'm not sure if they intend to update it at some point. [02:17] Well here's the other - http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vmware-package.html [02:17] It looks much more maintained. [02:18] Ah, it's like java-package. It doesn't actually contain the stuff, but helps package it. [02:19] Yes. [02:21] soren: Any suggestions on who we could take this to? [02:21] I'll have to talk to mdy about it. I think he knows about the vmware packages. [02:21] He's not around right now, though. [02:23] soren: Thanks for following up on it. It'd be really cool to dump openssl 0.9.7 if we can do it reasonably. [02:23] Yeah. [02:30] theres a canonical server team? [02:35] Yes. [02:36] https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-server === Kamping_Kaiser wonders what they do [02:38] Work. [02:39] Kamping_Kaiser: i dont know something to do with servers ;) === Kamping_Kaiser decides to avoid being snide and goes to bed [02:39] zul, certainly hope so ;) [02:39] Kamping_Kaiser: Is there anything in particular you're curious about? [02:40] Kamping_Kaiser: (If it's not obvious from the context, I'm on that team) [02:40] soren, a bug i reported got asigned to it, i was wondering what that meant as far as the bug getting fixed meant. the teams page on LP is useless as far as explaing the group [02:41] I thought the description made it very clear what the team was for. [02:41] unless i'm looking in the wrong place... [02:41] The LP team was created with the specific purpose of having a team to which private, server related bugs could be assigned. [02:42] Which is what LP says about it. === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@03-096.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:06] what's my best choice in profiling a slow app? oprofile, valgrind, anything else? [03:07] Depends. [03:08] TeTeT: What is it? [03:10] soren: an accounting application, GUI driven, kind of a weird text based interface [03:10] What's it programmed in? [03:17] soren: I don't know, it's a binary. I suspect C or C++ === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [03:18] TeTeT: That makes it sort of difficult. What do you hope to achieve? [03:19] soren: to come up with an explanation why every single menu item takes 2-3 seconds to react [03:20] TeTeT: You could try stracing it. Otherwise, I'm clueless. If it's binary, there's not much information to be collected. [03:21] soren: agreed [03:21] soren: it's not stripped, so the function names might be present [03:25] TeTeT: I'm not sure, really. === l_` [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === mdz [i=mdz@nat/canonical/x-6f15c7bc29715bee] has joined #ubuntu-server === dendrobates [n=dendroba@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === gamble6x [i=bbg@gateway/tor/x-440f27e85de3f0c9] has joined #ubuntu-server === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #ubuntu-server === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-server === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #ubuntu-server === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@ubuntu/member/mathiaz] has joined #ubuntu-server === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.160.221] has joined #ubuntu-server === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server === zeasier [n=zon@router.resiteit.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === osmosis [n=steven@cpe-76-80-127-252.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:40] does ubuntu server have an mail transfer agent installed by default? [05:40] <_ruben> a lamp install might, a minimal install doesnt as far as i recall [05:41] <_ruben> minimal doesnt even have sshd installed for instance [05:41] that's true [05:41] so i guess i have to choose one then [05:41] <_ruben> which is a good thing imo [05:41] yeah [05:42] basic security policy is that if it listens on a network port, then you have to install it. [05:42] <_ruben> i'd say its better to pick one yourself starting with nothing, else you'd hafta uninstall first [05:42] OTOH, LAMP is a "install this for me" target, so it gets to sidestep that policy a bit [05:42] <_ruben> hmm .. that's a very nice policy imo [05:43] <_ruben> must admit that i havent played much with ubuntu (server), yet [05:43] makes sense to me [05:43] it's pretty handy if you use bzr for revision control [05:44] <_ruben> bzr? [05:44] other distros are understandably behind on bzr packaging [05:44] Welcome - Bazaar Version Control [05:47] <_ruben> looks nice at first sight === Styles [n=Styles@67.138.244.194] has joined #ubuntu-server [05:56] zeasier: Postfix is the preferred/most supported MTA. [05:58] yeah, i've experience using it [05:58] just not as a "null client" [05:58] which is aparently what i'm trying to do [05:59] though now that i've found some documentation on how to setup a system that way, i'll be sticking with postfix === YourMomsHero [n=cirish@74.202.196.195] has joined #ubuntu-server === coffeedude [n=coffeedu@adsl-69-228-76-109.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:30] lamont: Should Bug #145263 be against GNU TLS? Is this the LDAP linking issue again? [06:30] Launchpad bug 145263 in postfix "segfault in gssapi.c:671" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145263 [06:35] ScottK: not postfix's bug, that's for sure... [06:35] sasl calls ldap which dies. [06:35] Agreed. Just trying to shove it in the right direction. [06:35] so could be the linking thing, could be other braindamage in one or both [06:35] and if both libs are involved, then linking for the win [06:36] It looks like it dies in LDAP. so I'll blame that one. [06:36] Even if SASL feeds it garbage, it shouldn't die. [06:37] right === nijaba [n=nbarcet@unaffiliated/nijaba] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:46] lamont: Finger pointed at openldap2. === dantalizing [n=chatzill@n128-227-7-248.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-server === osmosis [n=steven@63.139.86.3] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing is now known as dantalizing_away === mathiaz_ [n=mathiaz@dsl-207-112-89-104.tor.primus.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === zeasier [n=zon@router.resiteit.com] has left #ubuntu-server [] === jcastro [n=jcastro@ethos.battleaxe.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:59] keescook: soren: Who wants to run a -server session for ubuntu open week? === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:23] jcastro: hm, soren might be a better choice -- I'm usually neck-deep in security work. If no one else volunteers, I can do it, though. :) [08:23] keescook: Very smooth redirect. [08:23] heh [08:24] heh [08:24] ScottK: too easy, too. soren's probably asleep atm. :) [08:24] As an added bonus, it's even true. === mathiaz [n=mathiaz@ubuntu/member/mathiaz] has joined #ubuntu-server === slackwarelife [n=slackwar@87.15.147.139] has joined #ubuntu-server === slackwarelife [n=slackwar@87.15.147.139] has left #ubuntu-server [] === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === dantalizing_away is now known as dantalizing === dantalizing [n=chatzill@n128-227-7-248.xlate.ufl.edu] has left #ubuntu-server [] === ajmitch wouldn't be able to do anything for ubuntu openweek again [11:02] jcastro: you get the job of organising it now? :) [11:03] ajmitch: heh, the schedule at least. [11:03] ajmitch: I'll put you down for 4 or 5 sessions [11:03] if you do, make sure they're not at 4am NZ time [11:04] I'm not too coherent around then === ajmitch might be able to do 1 or 2 [11:36] jcastro: when is it? this seems old: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [11:38] week of october 22nd. [11:39] nealmcb: the page will be updated real soon now. [11:40] jcastro: is that a regular thing the week after a release or something? [11:42] I think this'll be the 3rd, maybe 4th one now? [11:45] first one was late november last year, then april, so this is the 3rd === slackwarelife [n=slackwar@host55-149-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-server === slackwarelife [n=slackwar@host55-149-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-server []