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| ubotu | New bug: #144011 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "GUTSY. No video output firing up X." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144011 | 09:05 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #145097 in xorg (main) "Live session directly go to black screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145097 | 09:06 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #145128 in xorg (main) "LiveCD No intel video" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145128 | 11:10 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #145186 in xorg (main) "mouse pointer disappears when using external display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145186 | 02:11 |
| ubotu | New bug: #145198 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[gutsy] [9700] analog output on DVI-I broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145198 | 02:40 |
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| Q-FUNK | seb128: exactly how did you reach the conclusion that the broken gtkprint was caused by libcups? | 04:02 |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: what is the bug number? the backtrace calls are in libcups if I remember correctly | 04:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #145211 in xorg (main) "OS won't shutdown after certain video usage; memory corruption?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145211 | 04:05 |
| Q-FUNK | bug #135832 | 04:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135832 in cupsys "evince: libgtkprint support is broken" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135832 | 04:06 |
| seb128 | #1 0xb71b5478 in connect () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 | 04:10 |
| seb128 | #2 0xb476513c in httpAddrConnect () from /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 | 04:10 |
| seb128 | #3 0xb47639e6 in httpReconnect () from /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 | 04:10 |
| seb128 | ^ | 04:10 |
| seb128 | that looks like it's hanging while connecting to cups | 04:10 |
| seb128 | and it's a hang in libcups | 04:10 |
| seb128 | maybe you have a firewall blocking it or something | 04:10 |
| Q-FUNK | definitely not | 04:11 |
| seb128 | ok, so maybe the cupsys config is broken | 04:11 |
| seb128 | or libcups has a bug | 04:11 |
| seb128 | or you have a network issue | 04:11 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure, and I don't know cups enough to figure | 04:11 |
| Q-FUNK | besides, gtkprint is the only thing that fails. gnomeprint, OOo, firefox, all work. | 04:11 |
| Q-FUNK | so that tells me that cupslib works fine, given how apps that directly access it and gnomeprint both work. | 04:12 |
| seb128 | does it happen in other applications use gtkprint? yelp, epiphany, gtk-demo | 04:12 |
| Q-FUNK | I can try yelp. just a sec. | 04:13 |
| Q-FUNK | yelp also buggers. | 04:14 |
| Q-FUNK | same symptoms | 04:14 |
| seb128 | k, so it looks like gtkprint, libcups, cupsys issue | 04:15 |
| seb128 | having a backtrace with dbgsym package for those would be useful | 04:15 |
| Q-FUNK | gtkprint, definitely. | 04:16 |
| seb128 | how do you know? | 04:17 |
| seb128 | the backtrace indicates it's hanging in a connect made by libgnomecups | 04:17 |
| seb128 | libcups rather | 04:17 |
| Q-FUNK | and yet gnomeprint doesn't hang during connect. it just works. | 04:17 |
| seb128 | do you know it's internel? | 04:18 |
| seb128 | does it uses the same libcups functions than gtkprint? | 04:18 |
| seb128 | that's not because some part of libcups is not buggy that there is no bug | 04:18 |
| Q-FUNK | well, that's rich. | 04:21 |
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| seb128 | re | 04:47 |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: you know, trying to change bug setting over a maintainer is not the way to get it resolved | 04:48 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: neither is changing it without justification. | 04:48 |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: I told you my justification | 04:49 |
| seb128 | the stacktrace indicates it's blocked on a libcups listen | 04:49 |
| Q-FUNK | "looks like a libcupsys bug. reassigning." that's not a justification. | 04:49 |
| seb128 | Q-FUNK: I gave you details on this chan | 04:50 |
| seb128 | looks at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9211483/gdb-evince.txt | 04:50 |
| seb128 | connect, httpAddrConnect, httpReconnect, httpConnectEncrypt | 04:50 |
| seb128 | it's clearly hanging on a call from libcups | 04:51 |
| seb128 | why do you think it's a GTK bug? | 04:51 |
| seb128 | might be a httpConnectEncrypt() libcups bug, which is something libgnomeprint maybe doesn't use | 04:51 |
| Q-FUNK | you'd need to write that in the bug as a justification, for this to be usefull to pitti or anyone else. then they can decide for themselves if they agree with your assessment. right now, the one-liner your wrote is useless as an explanation. | 04:51 |
| seb128 | I explain it to you on this chan | 04:52 |
| Q-FUNK | that could be. | 04:52 |
| seb128 | you could have asked that instead of just reassigning | 04:52 |
| Q-FUNK | I already asked. | 04:52 |
| Q-FUNK | you had already reassigned | 04:52 |
| seb128 | from now I'll just ignore this bug since you don't want to work in the right way | 04:52 |
| Q-FUNK | you thus didn't get copy of the question. | 04:52 |
| Q-FUNK | seb128: reassigning the bug with such a laconic justification helps nobody, so please work in the right way and provide details for that sort of action. | 04:54 |
| Q-FUNK | on the bug, where it belongs. | 04:54 |
| seb128 | it was assigned to evince which was clearly wrong | 04:55 |
| seb128 | I reassigned to libcups what is the most likely place according to the backtrace | 04:55 |
| seb128 | what about letting the maintainer make calls? | 04:55 |
| seb128 | bug tracker should not allow users to change settings over maintainers | 04:55 |
| seb128 | anyway could you get a debug backtrace? | 04:56 |
| Q-FUNK | nothing more than what I already attached to the bug. | 04:56 |
| seb128 | libcupsys2-dbgsym libc6-dbg libgtk2.0-0-dbgsym are installed? | 04:57 |
| seb128 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9211483/gdb-evince.txt has no debug functions | 04:57 |
| ubotu | New bug: #145244 in xft (main) "[gutsy] libXft library - undefined symbol FT_Library_SetLcdFilter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145244 | 05:01 |
| bryce_ | tepsipakki: on bug 136783, what do you think of forcing TV off in dexconf? Is there a better way we can address this? | 05:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136783 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "not using whole widescreen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136783 | 05:58 |
| Q-FUNK | /querry bryce_ ah :) | 06:28 |
| Q-FUNK | ... | 06:28 |
| bryce_ | hi Q-FUNK | 06:28 |
| Q-FUNK | bryce_: did the strace that Scott provide made any sense to oyu? | 06:29 |
| bryce_ | bug#? | 06:35 |
| Q-FUNK | bug #140051 | 06:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140051 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "amd driver fails to autoconfigure" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140051 | 06:37 |
| ubotu | New bug: #145276 in xorg (main) "xorg.conf multiple monitor failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145276 | 06:41 |
| ubotu | New bug: #145283 in kde-guidance (main) "[gutsy] When Driver in xorg.conf is set to "openchrome" X fails to start. Changing it manually to "via" works." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145283 | 06:56 |
| bryce_ | Q-FUNK: interesting | 07:10 |
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| bryce_ | Q-FUNK: it looks like its segfaulting while trying to load vgafb | 07:13 |
| bryce_ | er, s/vgafb/vgahw/ | 07:13 |
| bryce_ | Q-FUNK, ok left my interpretation of the strace. I have no idea what's going on, but hopefully that should give you some new stuff to test | 07:21 |
| tepsipakki | bryce_: well, that's one option.. but maybe first ask upstream? | 07:44 |
| bryce_ | tepsipakki: who would be best to ask? | 07:51 |
| tormod | hi, I am building new ati drivers in PPA now, with the post-194 git commit. | 07:54 |
| bryce_ | tepsipakki: also see discussion on #ubuntu-desktop about -ati's xrandr and multi-screening | 07:55 |
| bryce_ | I sense that glatzor would favor sticking with -ati 6.6.3 since displayconfig-gtk does not support xrandr yet | 07:55 |
| tepsipakki | uh | 07:56 |
| tepsipakki | ok | 07:56 |
| tepsipakki | that's better than skip dualhead with intel&ati? | 07:57 |
| tepsipakki | in displayconfig-gtk | 07:57 |
| jcristau_ | &nv | 07:57 |
| tepsipakki | right | 07:58 |
| tepsipakki | well, dunno | 07:58 |
| tormod | stick with 6.6.3? omg we have to reopen many a bug then. like my favorite 22985... | 08:00 |
| tepsipakki | i'll check the discussion soon | 08:00 |
| tormod | hmm #ubuntu-desktop is not logged | 08:02 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, the reason why xresprobe fails for so many is probably that laptop-detect fails | 08:43 |
| bryce_ | that's what I'm wondering | 08:45 |
| tepsipakki | it's easy to check.. | 08:46 |
| tepsipakki | ask the reporters to run that | 08:46 |
| tormod | laptop-detect fails? again? | 09:06 |
| tormod | last time it failed during casper, but would work in installed, which was quite confusing. (#40503) | 09:07 |
| tormod | and I remember initial resolution detection would also fail. bug # anyone? | 09:09 |
| bryce_ | bug 127008 | 09:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127008 in xresprobe "Alternate install of Tribe-4 corrupts video display when installing packages (affected hardware includes Santa Rosa)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127008 | 09:13 |
| bryce_ | tormod: btw, when you start a discussion with a user, and esp. after asking a question, could you set the state of the bug from New to Incomplete (or Confirmed)? | 09:20 |
| tormod | bryce_: ok, I do it sometimes :) | 09:20 |
| bryce_ | tormod: this'll help the bug triagers a lot | 09:21 |
| tormod | sure. It's just that I then feel compelled to assign it to myself, which I sometimes don't want to. | 09:21 |
| bryce_ | like bug 145097, can probably be set to incomplete | 09:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 145097 in xorg "Live session directly go to black screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145097 | 09:21 |
| tormod | in that bug I am not at all sure I am on the right track, would be nice if someone else takes a look. | 09:22 |
| bryce_ | tormod, brian murray says the incomplete state should always be set when someone has at least taken a preliminary look, even if it's not clear what's going on | 09:23 |
| tormod | ok, will do that every time then. | 09:23 |
| bryce_ | cool thanks | 09:24 |
| bryce_ | yeah I looked at this one too, and it seemed odd | 09:24 |
| bryce_ | I wonder if it really is the screensaver coming on | 09:24 |
| bryce_ | it sounds very familiar; I think I ran into something similar once | 09:24 |
| bryce_ | however there the issue was that the clock got reset, so the screensaver *thought* a lot of time had passed and came on | 09:25 |
| bryce_ | doesn't sound like this is happening here | 09:25 |
| tormod | yes I saw that earlier when coming back from hibernation, but that's fixed (I think). | 09:28 |
| tormod | if he could change the screensaver and then restart X we would see. But at this point I am not sure he and I understand each other. | 09:29 |
| tormod | screensaver on/off is that logged somewhere? I guess not. | 09:31 |
| bryce_ | I don't think it's logged, but it could be tested for using 'xset q' | 09:34 |
| bryce_ | so something like xset q | grep -A 2 "Standby:" could be useful | 09:35 |
| bryce_ | if those values are not 0, then it means a screensaver may be active | 09:36 |
| tormod | you mean the built-in xorg screensaver, ok | 09:36 |
| tormod | I built an ati driver with verbose dpms messages, I could get him to try that. However, the blanking doesn't call dpms functions I guess, only when it's time to shut off the screen. | 09:38 |
| tormod | btw the new ati packages (with more "mode" fixes) are done building in my ppa | 09:43 |
| bryce_ | awesome | 09:43 |
| bryce_ | Brice Goglin mentioned the multi-board multi-head bug on the xorg list (ATI + MGA) | 09:49 |
| bdmurray | Looking at an Xorg.0.log I saw "(--) Chipset ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE) found" is 5A62 the product part of the pci id? | 10:05 |
| bryce_ | I think almost certainly | 10:10 |
| bryce_ | I notice ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) has pciid 1002:5955, so expect 5A62 would be similarly so | 10:10 |
| bdmurray | I'm pretty sure too and was trying to figure out if lspci wasn't always necessary. | 10:11 |
| bdmurray | I understand that ideally we would like it but instead of bothering a reporter for the umpteenth time. | 10:12 |
| bryce_ | it's extremely rare that the device name would include the pciid like in this case | 10:19 |
| bdmurray | That is the device name? | 10:22 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I see now. | 10:24 |
| tormod | there are probably so many versions of 200M they had to put in a unique ID | 10:24 |
| bdmurray | It seems ATI specific my laptops just says "Chipset 945GM found" | 10:25 |
| bryce_ | bbiab | 10:45 |
| tormod | bryce_: I suggest making a Gutsy/Xrandr page and link to it from the release notes. Otherwise it will be too much with links and workarounds. | 10:46 |
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| tormod | good night | 11:31 |
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