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[01:45] <travisbickle> Does anyone know what applications i would be missing from gnome if i switched to xubuntu? I'm thinking of switching because my p4 1.6 with 512 ram responsiveness is kinda slow.
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[03:16] <Eeyore-Jr> what is the media player in xubuntu?
[03:17] <Eeyore-Jr> what min memory do i need to run xubuntu?
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[03:38] <HBBM> Helo! I have downloaded the xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu Feity Fawn, but didn't got the double bars (botton/top) like in xubuntu dist. How can I get these bars? Is there any package or it's a configuration set? Is it present in xubuntu dist. only? Good evening, good morning, good afternoon.
[03:40] <kennobaka> HBBM: I'm guessing you'll need to set the program to start when gnome starts (assuming you're using gnome)
[03:40] <kennobaka> I believe it's gnome-panel
[03:42] <HBBM> kennoabaka, I'm using the XFCE session.
[03:44] <HBBM> kennoabaka, I have the gnome-panel package installed too.
[03:44] <kennobaka> well, I've run gnome-panel in fluxbox before - I don't know how to do it in xfce, but if you have them installed, it could work
[03:45] <kennobaka> oh, xfce.org says panel(s) are supported through a panel manager
[03:46] <HBBM> kennoabaka, is the gonome-panel those double bars?
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[03:48] <kennobaka> it is in gnome
[03:48] <kennobaka> it looks like xfce has its own panels
[03:54] <The_Kernel> yeah
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[03:57] <kennobaka> maybe I should give xfce a shot so I know what all the cool kids are talking about
[04:11] <Jester45> there is 2 diffrent packages fce's panels and gnomes
[04:12] <kennobaka> I see that now
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[05:48] <Ben_Cs>  have installed xfce4 xmms plugin. when trying to add it to panel i get a message that no supported players are installed. but i have xmms installed! please help!
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[05:56] <pvd2007> Hey there
[05:56] <pvd2007> !audigy
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <pvd2007> !soundblaster
[05:56] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[05:57] <pvd2007> not loading:-\
[05:57] <pvd2007> hmm
[05:58] <pvd2007> I am on the latest distro of Xubuntu and I can't seem to get my audigy sound card working.  It shows up and I've unmuted everything in alsamixer, turned up all volumes, etc.. Still notw working.
[05:59] <pvd2007> I also went to applications > settings > mixer  and chose the audigy sound card.
[05:59] <Ben_Cs> pvd2007: try in #ubuntu+1 if u using gutsy
[05:59] <pvd2007> k thanks
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[05:59] <chlorpromazine> hola
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[06:52] <pvd2006> where is the volume control in xubuntu? I dont see it anywhere. All I can find is alsamixer on command line and mixer settings under application > settings
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[08:01] <travisbickkle> hey i just installed and I have no top or bottom taskbars what gives?
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[02:23] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know why I get a "pygtk module not found" error whenever I try to run Install?
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[02:28] <Doomguy0505> why is this channel so dead?
[02:29] <Pumpernickel> Are you trying to install a package you built yourself?
[02:29] <Doomguy0505> no, i'm installing xubuntu onto another computer
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[02:33] <Pumpernickel> What stage in the installation causes this error?
[02:36] <Doomguy0505> it seems to hang around selecting the language and time zone
[02:36] <Doomguy0505> so i try to use it from command line and it says pygtk is not found
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[02:44] <neab> Hi, I'm trying to unrar a file except it then says "Sorry, this archive format is not supported: the proper archiver is not installed!"
[02:44] <neab> using xarchiver
[02:48] <Pumpernickel> neab: You need to install 'unrar'.
[02:48] <Pumpernickel> Doomguy0505: That's a curiously unique problem.  It may just be a bad burn; it's happened before, and they cause weird issues.
[02:48] <neab> "sudo apt-get install unrar" ?
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[02:49] <Doomguy0505> unless a duron + 224 mb ram is really that bad
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[02:56] <Warp4> hi all
[02:57] <Warp4> trying to get qpopper installed but it does not seem to be picking up incoming client connection when run using inet.d
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[03:11] <Doomguy0505> I burn it again and now fsck fails, yay
[03:11] <Pumpernickel> You may find the alternate cd more reliable.
[03:13] <Doomguy0505> That's weird, I retry in safe graphics mode and it works
[03:15] <Doomguy0505> what's the livecd password? it is asking for it
[03:17] <Doomguy0505> I think xubuntu is cursed
[03:18] <Warp4> you should just be able to press enter for that
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[03:21] <Doomguy0505> why does xfce hate me?
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[03:59] <neozen> meep
[04:00] <vinze> meep...?
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[04:39] <maxamillion> moop
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[05:09] <Twinkletoes> Xubuntu 6.06 doesn't accept its hostname from the DHCP server.  Is it possible to make it do this?
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[05:34] <Twinkletoes> Xubuntu 6.06 doesn't accept its hostname from the DHCP server. Is it possible to make it do this?
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[05:41] <predaeus> Twinkletoes, I didn't even know DHCP servers could issue host names.
[05:41] <predaeus> Or do you mean IP address.
[05:43] <Arkh> well, I guess DHCP can offer hostnames too, at least that's what the RFC says.
[05:44] <Arkh> http://www.iana.org/assignments/bootp-dhcp-parameters -> check tag 12
[05:45] <Twinkletoes> How to get the machines to accept it.  dhclicnet.conf requests it
[05:45] <Twinkletoes> dhclient.conf even
[05:51] <Arkh> Twinkletoes, are you saying that editing dhclient.conf doesn't help?
[05:53] <Twinkletoes> Arkh: Yes, the dhclient.conf file includes hostname:  "request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;"
[05:53] <Arkh> interface "eth0" {
[05:53] <Arkh>            send host-name "foo";
[05:53] <Arkh>            send dhcp-client-identifier 1:0:a0:24:ab:fb:9c;
[05:53] <TheSheep> Twinkletoes: I had a similar problem, in the end I just used a diffrent dhcp client
[05:53] <TheSheep> Twinkletoes: dhcpcd
[05:53] <Arkh> see man dhclient.conf for more details I suppose
[05:54] <Arkh> If I can remember there should be a sample in that man page
[05:55] <Twinkletoes> TheSheep: which client did you use?
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[05:55] <Twinkletoes> TheSheep: Thanks :)
[05:57] <The_Kernel> later on tonight I gotta figure out how to roll back the xserver version
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[06:26] <hyper__ch> hiho
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[06:45] <sekaab> hello
[06:46] <hyper__ch> sekaab: hiho
[06:49] <sekaab> i am pretty new to xubuntu
[06:49] <sekaab> but hvae to say
[06:49] <sekaab> nice programm
[06:50] <sekaab> before that i used kubuntu
[06:50] <hyper__ch> sekaab: I also like Xfce better although I use mane KDE Appz
[06:50] <sekaab> :) same
[06:51] <sekaab> but still have a bit work in getting familia with that window manager
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[07:07] <hyper__ch> I use konqueror ;)
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[07:54] <Gunirus> 'evening
[07:54] <Gunirus> can someone send me the official xubuntu logo?
[07:54] <Gunirus> i need it for school
[07:54] <Gunirus> and art.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[07:55] <kennobaka> Gunirus: it's on the top of www.xubuntu.com
[07:55] <Gunirus> lol
[07:55] <Gunirus> :p
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[08:32] <Ramla> svg would've been better :( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Xubuntu_Logo.svg
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[09:53] <slammer> hello all
[09:53] <slammer> anybody here
[09:53] <TheSheep> hello bill
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[10:15] <salox> hi
[10:16] <Jester45> hi
[10:16] <salox> so quite
[10:17] <Jester45> not the not hat quite... me and you are talking :)
[10:17] <Jester45> not that quite me and you are talking
[10:17] <Jester45> ...
[10:17] <Jester45> wonder why it didnt send the first one
[10:18] <TheSheep> 22:17 < Jester45> not the not hat quite... me and you are talking :)
[10:18] <TheSheep> 22:17 < Jester45> not that quite me and you are talking
[10:18] <TheSheep> yeah
[10:18] <TheSheep> wonder
[10:18] <salox> so...
[10:18] <TheSheep> salox: NO
[10:18] <Jester45> well i noticed it sent it
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[10:18] <salox> how fist do u think Xubuntu is ?
[10:18] <Jester45> just not right away
[10:19] <Jester45> fast? dependso n the hardware
[10:19] <salox> fast
[10:20] <TheSheep> it's very fast on fast hardware and very slow on slow hardware
[10:20] <salox> compared with other linux distro's
[10:20] <Jester45> i would say 300mhz 192 mb ram is useable
[10:20] <TheSheep> and something in between on medium hardware
[10:20] <TheSheep> salox: same
[10:20] <TheSheep> salox: xfce on xubuntu is about as fast as xfce on suse or on redhat
[10:20] <Jester45> with 300mhx you would have to stay away from beryl or some other heavy things
[10:21] <salox> hey
[10:21] <Jester45> yeh
[10:22] <salox> i have been tested 10-20  linux distro
[10:22] <salox> not all the linux distro are moving the same way
[10:22] <salox> i mean speed
[10:22] <salox> ok ?
[10:22] <salox> !
[10:22] <salox> i know what i am talking
[10:22] <TheSheep> salox: whatever you say boss
[10:23] <salox> i'm not boss
[10:23] <Jester45> try cli dsl
[10:23] <Jester45> that should give you nice speeds
[10:25] <salox> what is cli dsl ?
[10:27] <TheSheep> command line interface damn small linux
[10:27] <Jester45> just text and the whole isntall is under 100mb
[10:28] <salox> thank's, but no thank's :)
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[10:28] <Jester45> its quite nice
[10:28] <TheSheep> Jester45: I though dsl is under 60MB
[10:28] <TheSheep> Jester45: *with* graphics
[10:29] <neozen> TheSheep: that's compressed onto a disk image
[10:29] <neozen> TheSheep: I believe...
[10:30] <neozen> TheSheep: this gets uncompressed around boot time
[10:30] <salox> try fedora 7
[10:30] <salox> it is a really fast distro
[10:30] <salox> ;)
[10:31] <Jester45> you need about 200mb to install
[10:31] <TheSheep> neozen: ah, right, but not whole
[10:32] <Jester45> but after an install you can remove a 100 or so of it
[10:32] <TheSheep> neozen: you can keep it in unionfs
[10:32] <Jester45> the cd version is 500mb or less and allways will be
[10:32] <Jester45> 50*
[10:34] <TheSheep> I actually played with making a small install of linux with xfce and a browser
[10:34] <TheSheep> I managed to shave off ArchLinux to under 200MB, uncompressed
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[12:22] <monteslu> hey guys, I'm trying to get vncserver running and it's a bit different than on fedora...
[12:23] <monteslu> I edited /etc/vnc.conf and changed the rez to 1024x768, and that's good, but when I log in I just see the background
[12:23] <Jester45> try pressing alt+F2 once loged in
[12:23] <Jester45> see if a window opens
[12:26] <monteslu> nothing
[12:27] <monteslu> also tried uncommenting the line about $vncStartup
[12:27] <monteslu> in fedora i just controlled this with ~/.vnc/xstartup
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[12:31] <Mahasamatman> hello
[12:31] <Jester45> hi
[12:32] <TheSheep> monteslu: edit your .xsession and put xfce4-session there
[12:32] <Jester45> TheSheep: wouldnt the background being up mean xfce started
[12:32] <Jester45> because xfdesktop controls it
[12:33] <TheSheep> Jester45: there is no single 'xfce' to start
[12:33] <TheSheep> Jester45: xfdesktop and other parts of xfce are all pretty separate
[12:34] <Mahasamatman> I just got my sony picturebook up with fiesty. the screen is of course 1024x480. when I open most config windows the bottom half of the window is off the screen and there is no way i can see to resize the height. how can i take care of this. xfce btw
[12:34] <Jester45> TheSheep: but if he didnt start xfdesktop alone it would of had to start with xfce4-session
[12:34] <TheSheep> Mahasamatman: alt+shift+arrows allow you to resize windows
[12:35] <Jester45> unless.... it was the defualt Xorg screen
[12:35] <Mahasamatman> TheSheep the largest screen is being used.
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[12:35] <Jester45> Mahasamatman: i think that would make the config window smaller or larger
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[12:40] <CRXLPY> hmm comcast musta burped ;)
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[12:43] <CRXLPY> u get bumped too Jester45?
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[12:51] <CRXLPY> almost all of the config windows have this problem. no scroll bar and resizing with the keys leaves me with a smaller window but contents not resized to window
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[01:02] <monteslu> TheSheep, I don't seem to have a .xession
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