[01:47] <delta16> hey guy's
[01:47] <delta16> can someone help me !?
[01:47] <delta16> got a problem  when trying to install from the Ubuntu  CD
[01:48] <delta16> i can boot , but when i get the logo with the menu
[01:49] <delta16> it doesn't matther witch opetion i sellect i always gaet the error message " can not read from boot cd " !
[01:49] <delta16> anyone a solution to this !?
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you run a cd check?
[01:50] <delta16> it gives me the same error message
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you checked the cd image with md5sum or similar?
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> or different cd?
[01:51] <delta16> nope ,  couse thats pretty new for me , the MD5 cheksum thing
[01:51] <delta16> ho to do that !?
[01:51] <delta16> im runnig ubuntu now on a VM machine on Windows XP !!
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubutnu has an md5sum tool, windows you have to download something
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> so if the ubuntu can access the cd, thats a better shot
[01:52] <delta16> yep it can :D
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:52] <delta16> so how to run that tool !?
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> in applications -> accessories -> terminal
[01:53] <delta16> sorry new to Linux i now i also get why linux is better then Windows
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> type in `md5sum /dev/cdrom`
[01:53] <delta16> Becouse ist just a couple of config files working together
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> i only know ohw to do such things in a terminal btw, thers probably other ways ;)
[01:54] <delta16> instead of a whole registry and all the shit around it !!
[01:54] <delta16> thanx man
[01:55] <delta16>  i'm really starting to like that treminal
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'couple of configs' ... hehe
[01:56] <delta16> werll as far as i know it is :D
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> close to my bed time :(
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> and my srync (of 15 gig of data) is still crusing along at 20k/s :(
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> ffs. i could download this faster over adsl :(
[01:58] <delta16> hey keiser , do you know a good tutorial , abot using the VI editor
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, not really. never used one.
[01:59] <delta16> how to exit that god damn editor ??
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> my mates got a good cheat sheet apparently, but i dnt know where its from
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> press escape then :wq (to save) and :q! (close with no saving)
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> and if you press q and it says 'recording', press q again to stop it recording
[02:01] <delta16> what do they mean by recording ??
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> recording a macro
[02:01] <delta16> editing ??
[02:01] <delta16> aaa
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> anything you type while 'recording' is there can be replayed
[02:02] <delta16> a cpuple of days ago they asked me to learn to setup administer and manage a whole voip network on ASTERISK
[02:02] <delta16> but its all done with a terminal
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> never used asterisk, i'll get to it eventually
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> try nano for something easier (but less powerful of course)
[02:03] <delta16> Nano ??
[02:03] <delta16> il try to google NANO
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, try and run nano :P
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> `nano` in a term
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> term=terminal, btw :)
[02:04] <delta16> oo now i see the result
[02:04] <delta16> is it some sort of editor !?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ys.
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> *yes
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> just a basic few-frills text editor
[02:06] <delta16> don't need anymore to edit a config file :-P
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> wait until you get to squid :)
[02:07] <delta16> lets try ;)
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe.
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> 1600 line config
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres a few packages like that
[02:08] <delta16> oo my god !!
[02:08] <delta16> soo not good for me
[02:08] <delta16> naa , don't wanna try that!!
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> piker :P
[02:09] <delta16> oo yea jut a stupid questino ...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> go for it
[02:10] <delta16> but in NANo i see the command to exit is " ^X" but whe i pust "shift +6 +x" it just apears like text
[02:10] <shriphani> delta16: ctrl
[02:10] <shriphani> ^ = your control key.
[02:11] <delta16> oooo
[02:11] <delta16> damn i'm sutch a noob wit linux
[02:11] <delta16> but i like it
[02:11] <shriphani> so am i.
[02:11] <shriphani> get yourself a few books from tldp.org
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> delta16, dont worry, we'll have you brainwashed in no time ;)
[02:12] <shriphani> there are some excellent ones which breeze you through in no time.
[02:12] <delta16> no really i'm a certiefied micorsoft expert ! but fuck microsoft im switching to linux :D
[02:13] <shriphani> nice.
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> delta16, we hope you enjoy your stay :)
[02:14] <delta16> but the only thing that i'm really missing in linux , i some harware support
[02:14] <shriphani> delta16: what kind of hardware ?
[02:14] <delta16> like support for webcams and things like that
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> what level of support?
[02:14] <delta16> i don't know if my webcam wil wokr on ubuntu
[02:15] <delta16> i got a logitech webcame
[02:15] <delta16> becam
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> wait until it doesnt work, tehn complain ;)
[02:15] <delta16> webcam
[02:15] <delta16> ok then :)
[02:15] <shriphani> http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/intro-linux.pdf <- thats for you deltab.
[02:16] <delta16> OMG , why didn't you send me the bible
[02:16] <delta16> that book has got moore then 200 pages
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, lol
[02:17] <shriphani> oh you want more ?
[02:17] <ogra> try the edubuntu handbook, that only has 50 :)
[02:17] <delta16> now that you mention edubuntu
[02:17] <shriphani> http://tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf
[02:18] <delta16> what is actually the difference ??
[02:18] <shriphani> ogra: edubuntu handbook is not part of the system documentation ?
[02:18] <ogra> shriphani, its in gutsy
[02:18] <ogra> and a copy is on the wiki
[02:18] <shriphani> i see.
[02:19] <shriphani> ogra: just wanted to ask something about zeroconf. I met a comp. teacher who lives in our apartment complex. he gave some good ideas to implement in my presentations.
[02:20] <shriphani> so is zeroconf support present in a default edubuntu installation ?
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> from 7.04 yes iirc
[02:21] <delta16> oo keyser BTW
[02:21] <delta16> that MD5 cheksom , what is is good for ??
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> delta16, pres 'kam' then hit tab
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> and its for taking and comparing with the md5sum available on the website
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> check the imge is ok
[02:22] <delta16> imm now on a  vm machine that is running ubuntu on  windows xp :D
[02:22] <delta16> sow the cam function wont really work
[02:23] <delta16> what about , GAIM !  does it supprt webcam conversations on the MSN service ?
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik no
[02:24] <delta16> no ??
[02:24] <delta16> damn :(
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> it seems to upset a lot of people
[02:25] <delta16> is ther any apliccation out ther in the wild , that supports webcam conversations on msn service for linux! ?
[02:25] <ogra> isnt there gaim-vv in universe ?
[02:26] <ogra> ekiga does but only via VoIP
[02:26] <ogra> i.e. you cant connect to an msn networ with it but to any VoIP server
[02:28] <delta16> damn sow what use do y have of a webcam on a linux machine !!
[02:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> delta16, what did you just say?
[02:30] <delta16> well , aperrently  ther is no linux app in out ther in the wilde tht supports webcam conversations over a the msns service :(
[02:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> gaim-vv?
[02:31] <delta16> well then i'l just smash my brand new logitech webcam wright in to my really old and rusty trashcan :P
[02:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> or try and use it to help test/develop ;)
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck with it delta16
[02:35] <delta16> thanx keiser
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> delta16, pres 'kam' then hit tab
[02:35] <delta16> thanx 4 all your help :-*
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> np, hope to see you around :)
[02:36] <delta16> kam ??
[03:56] <bddebian> Heya
[03:59] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:59] <bddebian> Hello sbalneav
[04:17] <vnl> anybody to help...
[04:18] <shriphani> with ?
[04:18] <vnl> edubuntu.....
[04:18] <vnl> of course
[04:18] <shriphani> well what about it.
[04:19] <vnl> I need LAMP to be installed...
[04:19] <vnl> Apache MySQL and PHP
[04:20] <shriphani> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-17875.html
[04:20] <shriphani> enjoy.
[04:20] <vnl> but thats ubuntu right
[04:20] <vnl> I have edubuntu
[04:21] <ogra> sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server
[04:21] <ogra> something like that should help
[04:21] <vnl> thanks mate...I will try one sec...
[04:26] <DigeratiX> i have done all things and videos/avi/dvd will not play in edubuntu, even installed easyubuntu and added most things. Still nothing. Whats the deal? Could it be the video card?
[04:27] <ogra> define "all the things" ... you ususaly dont need to do anything but click on a movie, if a codec is missing the system will offer you to install it
[04:28] <DigeratiX> well at first it didnt prompt, so I began to research and install codecs and such.
[04:28] <DigeratiX> totem just crashes
[04:28] <ogra> easyubuntu is the same as automatix ... be careful with that (see http://mjg59.livejournal.com/)
[04:28] <ogra> thast on feisty ?
[04:29] <DigeratiX> yes
[04:29] <ogra> hmm, i have never seen people have probs with that
[04:29] <ogra> for me personally the codec instaler works fine as well
[04:30] <shriphani> avi...... try installing the w32 codecs.
[04:30] <vnl> well that did not help oorga
[04:30] <vnl> orga*
[04:30] <shriphani> but yes what are "all things" ?
[04:30] <ogra> vnl, why ?
[04:30] <vnl> I have no Idea
[04:31] <vnl> I have Edubuntu 7.04
[04:31] <vnl> I installed it
[04:31] <ogra> vnl, and you installed the packages above ?
[04:31] <vnl> now I need APache PHP and Mysql
[04:31] <DigeratiX> i did install the w32 codecs
[04:31] <DigeratiX> like I said I have installed all things
[04:31] <vnl> when I typed the code...
[04:31] <ogra> DigeratiX, well, up to you :)
[04:32] <vnl> I mean command
[04:32] <DigeratiX> this is what I get when I use totem to play an avi
[04:32] <DigeratiX> @edubuntu:~$ totem
[04:32] <DigeratiX> The program 'totem' received an X Window System error.
[04:32] <DigeratiX> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[04:32] <DigeratiX> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[04:32] <DigeratiX>   (Details: serial 87 error_code 11 request_code 140 minor_code 19)
[04:32] <DigeratiX>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[04:32] <DigeratiX>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[04:32] <DigeratiX>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[04:32] <DigeratiX>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[04:32] <DigeratiX>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[04:32] <ogra> please use a pastebin
[04:32] <DigeratiX> woooops
[04:32] <ogra> well, tat might be a Xserver issue, right
[04:32] <DigeratiX> so it may fall back to being a video card issue?
[04:32] <ogra> or a very limited amount of video ram
[04:33] <DigeratiX> its a sis video
[04:33] <DigeratiX> has 630mb ram
[04:33] <vnl> ogra any more suggestions
[04:33] <ogra> well, how much shared videoram does it use ?
[04:33] <DigeratiX> eww good question
[04:34] <DigeratiX> possibly 64
[04:34] <DigeratiX> or less
[04:34] <sbalneav> ogra: Just a note, My clients here at work are getting USB bus dropouts.  When using USB mice, the kernel/udev decides it's getting read errors from the usb device, and unloads the driver :(  I'm going to head off to a dental appointment soon, but then I'll work at home, and try to narrow it down.
[04:34] <ogra> vnl, you only need the four packages above they should ask you a bunh of questions during install and you should be all set aftewards
[04:34] <vnl> never asked any questions
[04:34] <ogra> sbalneav, i'm flying out in 1h and likely wont be online and back before sunday :/
[04:34] <vnl> it just said....
[04:35] <ogra> vnl, but they installed prperly ?
[04:35] <ogra> *properly
[04:35] <vnl> nope nothing happened
[04:35] <vnl> I mean it asked me for the password
[04:35] <vnl> I typed it
[04:35] <vnl> it said reading packages
[04:35] <ogra> sbalneav, feel free to proxy through LAser if you want anything uploaded (including ltsp)
[04:35] <vnl> and said the installation is missintg all these
[04:36] <ogra> something is wrong with your software sources ... check that
[04:36] <vnl> its the original CD
[04:36] <vnl> I got it from the Ship It
[04:36] <ogra> apache isnt on the cD
[04:36] <vnl> then...?
[04:36] <ogra> it gets pulled from the online archive
[04:36] <shriphani> vnl: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <ogra> enable that i the software sources tool from the system menu
[04:37] <ogra> its only two clicks :)
[04:37] <vnl> OK then
[04:37] <vnl> now the problem...is I don't have internet on that PC
[04:37] <vnl> Im on windows now...
[04:37] <DigeratiX> there is no other way to check or allocate shared video ram other than from the bios correct?
[04:37] <ogra> right
[04:37] <DigeratiX> ok well this will have to wait till i get home
[04:38] <DigeratiX> thanks
[04:38] <vnl> ogra is there any way I can download all that stuff
[04:38] <vnl> and copy it onto a CD
[04:38] <vnl> and transfer it
[04:38] <ogra> synaptic has such an option i think, but you need another ubuntu machine that has net connection
[04:38] <vnl> Oh...
[04:39] <vnl> OK atleast let me know the conection to it
[04:39] <vnl> to the net I mean
[04:39] <vnl> I have a dynamic IP
[04:39] <vnl> so can't use those while configuring right
[04:43] <vnl> so guys
[04:45] <sbalneav> You might want to google for apt-on-cd
[04:46] <ogra> sbalneav, synaptic has all he needs in te file menu ;)
[04:46] <vnl> synaptic...
[04:46] <vnl> whats that
[04:46] <vnl> I am a complete n00b
[04:46] <sbalneav> Right, but if he wants to download the stuff, and burn it to a cd...
[04:47] <sbalneav> or does synaptic do that?
[04:47] <shriphani> vnl: why not go the packages.ubuntu.com route ?
[04:47] <sbalneav> vnl: Simplest would be just to connect the box temporarily to the internet, and install the packages.
[04:47] <vnl> yeah I guess thats the simplest method
[04:48] <ogra> well, synaptic creates a local archive in a folder you can copy that folder and make the synaptic on the target system read it
[04:48] <sbalneav> ok, heading out to dentist.
[04:48] <ogra> shriphani, because that gets you into download hell packages jhave dependencies :)
[04:48] <ogra> yeah, heading to the shower ...
[04:49] <vnl> ehehe
[04:49] <vnl> all of  are heading out
[04:49] <vnl> Im so ded now
[04:49] <ogra> vnl, yu could pay 1500,- to refund my plane ticket :P
[04:50] <vnl> ehehe
[04:50] <vnl> I dubt that
[04:50] <vnl> OK just tell me this
[04:50] <vnl> I have a DVD Writer
[04:51] <vnl> but a USB one...
[04:51] <vnl> is it possible to install linux through that
[04:51] <vnl> how will it detect USB then
[04:52] <vnl> lol
[04:52] <vnl> without an OS
[04:52] <vnl> :P
[04:52] <ogra> well, your system needs to support that indeed
[04:52] <ogra> s/system/BIOS/
[04:52] <vnl> Oh system BIOS does support it
[04:52] <vnl> I know that much
[04:52] <ogra> if you can select USB as boot device then all is fine
[04:53] <ogra> if not ... there is no solution
[04:53] <vnl> OH OK...I get it all now...
[04:53] <vnl> lol
[04:53] <vnl> thanks a lot ogra
[04:53] <ogra> before the kernel gets loaded its all BIOS :)
[04:55] <delta16> hey guy's
[04:55] <delta16> i'm back
[04:55] <delta16> thisk time with a new problem
[04:56] <delta16> :(
[04:56] <delta16> *this
[04:56] <delta16> i now installd ubuntu 7.4
[04:56] <delta16> it works great
[04:57] <delta16> oo and i love the migrtion tool , that gets the files from my windows OS
[04:57] <delta16> but
[04:57] <delta16> i got a small problem now
[04:57] <shriphani> which is ?
[04:57] <delta16> i have a wirelles network runnig
[04:57] <delta16> the
[04:57] <shriphani> ok ?
[04:57] <delta16> routers are reconizde
[04:58] <delta16> and i see the SSID
[04:58] <delta16> but no signal strenght
[04:58] <delta16> and also can't connet to it  :(
[04:58] <delta16> it's a non seacured wireless network
[04:59] <delta16> the router is drom linksys
[04:59] <delta16> an my  wireless signel reciefer is from E-TECH
[05:00] <delta16> soo
[05:00] <delta16> any suggestions ??
[05:01] <shriphani> damn. 2 secs lag.
[05:02] <delta16> soo sriphani , any idea on how to solve this problem ??
[05:04] <shriphani> what problem repeat it again.
[05:05] <delta16> ubutu findes wireless networks , but shows no signal strenghts
[05:05] <delta16> an i cant connect to the networks
[05:07] <shriphani> try typing the ESSID manually.
[05:09] <delta16> ok
[06:26] <LaserJock> bah, I woke up this morning thinking I need to make sure and remember the Edubuntu meeting
[07:51] <chaneu> hi.  I'm trying to get a thinclient to connect to a server, but the client hangs at the splash screen.  I'm using edubuntu 7.04
[07:52] <chaneu> Can anyone help?  sorry, forgot to put the question. :p0
[07:52] <chaneu> apologies in advance - first time using xchat
[07:53] <chaneu> thank you
[07:56] <stgraber> Hi, sorry I won't have much time to help you as I have a meeting in 5 minutes
[07:56] <stgraber> but did you try with another thin client
[07:56] <stgraber> just in case of an hardware issue ?
[07:57] <stgraber> (maybe the X server simply can't start due to bad detection of your graphic card)
[09:19] <ross> Hi. I've installed with no errors edbuntu.  edbuntu client gets IP address and hangs at black screen.  any ideas?
[09:22] <stgraber> welcome back ross, did you/can you check with a different thin client ?
[09:24] <ross> Thanks.  Yes, and both stop at the same spot.  I am noticing the path in  /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf points to a relative location.  I am stating it absolutely. ??
[09:28] <ross> Say, I was able to tty F1, but now cannot.  any ideas on that?  I figure it will help me if i can see more info.
[09:30] <stgraber> are you using a two NICs configuration
[09:30] <stgraber> ?
[09:31] <ross> yes, but I did originally try with two.
[09:32] <stgraber> I never was able to make Edubuntu to boot + login with only one NIC (boot is now OK with gutsy but ssh doesn't work so no login)
[09:32] <stgraber> can you check on tty8, sometimes info are there
[09:33] <ross> Just to note, this is the first time in 8 years I've had to pester the community with stuff I couldn't figure out on my own, and man do I need help.
[09:33] <ross> no response from any tty
[09:33] <stgraber> it's feisty right ?
[09:33] <ross> good name.  7.04
[09:34] <stgraber> sbalneav: Do you have a minute for that ?
[09:35] <stgraber> it could well be a problem with the NFS server (we switched to nbdserver with Gutsy for lots of good reason :))
[09:35] <ross> the client at boot shows the receiving of an IP address.  192.168.0.250 normal.
[09:35] <stgraber> yes, then it should connect using NFS and boot
[09:35] <ross> I will check / change nfs servers.
[09:36] <stgraber> check that /opt/ltsp/i386/ is exported using NFS (/etc/exports)
[09:37] <stgraber> then if you can, check if you can mount the NFS from another computer on the same network
[09:40] <sbalneav> Sorry, what?
[09:41] <stgraber> sbalneav: ross can't boot with feisty edubuntu server, may be a nfs issue but I almost forgot how feisty's LTSP worked :)
[09:41] <sbalneav> simplest to see what's going on would be to remove the bootsplash
[09:42] <sbalneav> cd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg
[09:42] <ross> I will remove the splash
[09:42] <sbalneav> edit file "default"
[09:42] <sbalneav> remove "quiet splash" from the end of the line.
[09:44] <ross> it is removed and attempting a client boot now
[09:45] <ross> lots of suff and ends with IP-config: eth) hardware... MAC address DHCP RARP.
[09:46] <ross> Above that, near the beginnnig it says I have and IP address???
[09:47] <sbalneav> So it's just halted there at that point?
[09:47] <ross> Yes halt.  Is it possible to get an address at one stage and then need another later on?
[09:47] <sbalneav> Yes, a thin client will always make 2 dhcp requests.
[09:48] <sbalneav> The pxe does one, to download the kernel.
[09:48] <sbalneav> Then the kernel has to do one, since pxe doesn't pass it the ip address.
[09:48] <sbalneav> Sounds to me like a dhcp problem
[09:48] <sbalneav> SDo you have another dhcp server on the network?
[09:49] <ross> I have my client connected via Xover cable - it is alone.  So, it appears PXE will receive an IP, but the kernel won't.
[09:50] <ross> Do I have to spec a path for DHCP to send from or to?
[09:50] <sbalneav> Can you paste to the pastebin both a copy of ifconfig -a, and your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file?
[09:50] <ross> One sec.
[09:51] <ross> authoritative;
[09:51] <ross> subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[09:51] <ross>   range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250;
[09:51] <ross>   option domain-name "example.com";
[09:51] <ross>   option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
[09:51] <ross>   option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
[09:51] <ross>   option routers 192.168.0.1;
[09:51] <sbalneav> no
[09:51] <ross>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
[09:51] <sbalneav> no
[09:51] <ross>   if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
[09:51] <sbalneav> pastebin
[09:51] <ross>     filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
[09:51] <ross>   }
[09:51] <sbalneav> !pastebin
[09:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <ross>   else{
[09:51] <ross>     filename "/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/nbi.img";
[09:51] <ross>   }
[09:51] <ross>   option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/nbi.img";
[09:51] <ross> }
[09:51] <ross> ross@edubuntu701:
[09:51] <ross> I have never used pastebin.
[09:52] <sbalneav> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <stgraber> ross: it's just a box where you can paste anything you want (text), then it'll give you an URL to paste on IRC
[09:53] <ross> I see.
[09:53] <ross> pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38841/
[09:54] <ross> is that right
[09:55] <sbalneav> yes
[09:55] <sbalneav> and a copy of ifconfig -a
[09:55] <stgraber> second filename is wrong
[09:55] <stgraber> root-path too
[09:56] <stgraber> root-path should be : /opt/ltsp/i386
[09:56] <sbalneav> yeah, that root path is bad.
[09:56] <sbalneav> right.
[09:56] <stgraber> second filename should be : /ltsp/i386/nbi.img
[09:56] <ross> I have changed both based on ideas on google, both were as you are currently noting, and I will put back.
[09:59] <sbalneav> The default one should be fine.
[10:00] <ross> all is back as you say
[10:00] <sbalneav> Please re-paste.
[10:00] <ross> ok. one sec
[10:00] <sbalneav> and re-start the dhcpd server with invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
[10:02] <ross> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38844/
[10:02] <ross> restarted dhcp and client no progress
[10:03] <sbalneav> Your root path is still incorrect
[10:04] <ross> Isn't Edubuntu supposed to connect out of the box?  My thinking is, I must have done something wrong.
[10:04] <ross> root path.  one sec.
[10:04] <sbalneav> yes
[10:04] <sbalneav> it is
[10:04] <sbalneav> You changed the root path.
[10:06] <ross> okay,  I took off the nbi.img
[10:06] <ross> is there something else I overlooked.
[10:07] <ross> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38846/
[10:07] <sbalneav> You still haven't pasted the output of ifconfig -a yet.  I'll want to see that as well.
[10:07] <ross> ok
[10:07] <ross> i'm on itl
[10:07] <ross> i'm on it.
[10:07] <sbalneav> np
[10:08] <ross> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38847/
[10:09] <sbalneav> ok, so the thin client is connected via a crossover cable to eth0?
[10:09] <ross> yes
[10:10] <ross> Recall, it is getting an IP at pxe boot
[10:10] <sbalneav> Alright, so, you've restarted the dhcpd again, with the invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart command?
[10:10] <ross> that's a big part of my confusion
[10:11] <ross> yes, just now and rebooting the client
[10:11] <sbalneav> ok
[10:11] <ross> With number of reboots, at least I know by power switch is good.  :)
[10:12] <ross> client stops at same place.
[10:12] <sbalneav> ok
[10:12] <ross> are there any logs on the server I can check?
[10:12] <sbalneav> Lets make sure we've got an  updated kernel to boot with.
[10:12] <sbalneav> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
[10:13] <ross> I just download the image from edubuntu yesterday.
[10:13] <sbalneav> mount -t proc proc /proc
[10:13] <ross> In addition, I applied all updates this morning.
[10:13] <sbalneav> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:13] <sbalneav> Did you do them in the chroot?
[10:17] <sbalneav> So, you're doing the update in the chroot now?
[10:17] <sbalneav> Is it downloading some updates?
[10:17] <ross> the output shows some files were ignored.
[10:18] <ross> here is one line:  Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[10:19] <ross> I am unsure of why I would have the problem in the first place.  Do you know of any default install bugs or issues?
[10:19] <sbalneav> nope
[10:20] <sbalneav> can you paste the output of the /etc/apt/sources.list file in the chroot there?
[10:21] <sbalneav> Just out of curiosity, what kind of thin client is this?
[10:22] <ross> thin client is a compaq 330mle server
[10:22] <ross> thin client is a compaq ml330e server
[10:23] <ross> sorry about the typo
[10:23] <sbalneav> ok, so it's pxe booting then?
[10:23] <ross> yes.  every time
[10:23] <sbalneav> What kind of network card in it?
[10:23] <ross> realtek
[10:24] <sbalneav> Hmmm
[10:24] <sbalneav> 8139 type?
[10:24] <ross> 8139 sorry about that
[10:25] <sbalneav> heh
[10:25] <ross> hmm I guess so.
[10:25] <sbalneav> Wait.  Multiple ethernet interfaces in this server?
[10:25] <sbalneav> that you're using as a thin client?
[10:26] <ross> yes
[10:26] <sbalneav> hahaha
[10:26] <sbalneav> bingo
[10:26] <ross> but only one connected
[10:26] <sbalneav> doesn't matter
[10:26] <ross> I can pull the card.  one minute
[10:26] <stgraber> casper takes the wrong one :)
[10:26] <sbalneav> just because you boot off one, doesn't mean the linux kernel will decide that one's eth0
[10:26] <sbalneav> :)
[10:27] <sbalneav> Betcha a coffee that's it.
[10:27] <sbalneav> so you download the kernel, and linux switches over to trying to use the other one.
[10:27] <sbalneav> I've seen that before.
[10:27] <stgraber> sbalneav: is there a bug about that ? (we should check the status of the cards and take the first ethX with a cable plugged in)
[10:27] <ross> one card now.  reboot in progress
[10:28] <ross> only one with no cable?
[10:28] <ross> we are further along
[10:29] <ross> It's still moving.  progress :)
[10:29] <sbalneav> \o/
[10:29] <sbalneav> Knew it had to be something goofy.
[10:29] <ross> double that if I get login.
[10:30] <sbalneav> Well, if you don't we'll just solve that problem too :)
[10:30] <ross> You guys realize I will now have try the several configs I've used to this point to rule out 2 nicx as an issue.
[10:31] <ross> long day tomorrow, but happier.
[10:31] <sbalneav> Well, glad we figured it out.
[10:32] <ross> I got GUI.  You can't say that just anywhere.  If I could imitate the cop off family guy  YEAHGHGHG
[10:33] <ross> thanks a bunch.  Stupid NIC!  ;)
[10:33] <sbalneav> No problem
[10:34] <ross> I'm noticing a no keyboard response.  I must have pulled the cable during the NIC removal.   Thanks again.
[10:34] <ross> all good now.
[10:36] <ross> Question?  If I log into IRC on this channel, how do I see how many people are currently on?
[10:36] <JordanC> On Which IRC Client?
[10:36] <sbalneav> stgraber: Well, that gets a bit tricky, as now you have to propagate that info to a lot of weird places.  I suppose when we've got all the other problems solved.... :)
[10:36] <ross> I am using xchat
[10:36] <sbalneav> the command /users should tell you
[10:36] <sbalneav> xchat should have the users listed in a side panel.
[10:37] <JordanC> I'm not a big fan of Xchat, really
[10:37] <JordanC> <-- Konversation
[10:37] <sbalneav> irssi here
[10:38] <Rondom> sbalneav: if the users list isn't visible move your mouse to the right and drag the right edge and the list will appear
[10:38] <ross> heyyy!
[10:38] <Rondom> (a double-arrow has to appear)
[10:39] <JordanC> jukebox*
[10:39] <ross> good enough.  have a good day, and thanks again.  Happy days are here again.  :)
[10:39] <JordanC> Eyyyy
[11:32] <La_PaRCa> Hey guys. Does anyone know what kind of software would allow me to manage a small school? It has to be able to handle grades and class rosters and schedules for different classroms.
[11:37] <JordanC> Moodle
[11:37] <JordanC> If you need any help setting it up, I'd be happy to help you
[11:37] <La_PaRCa> That is kinda complex for what I need.
[11:37] <La_PaRCa> This is a very small operation.
[11:38] <JordanC> Hmm
[11:39] <JordanC> You can just scale moodle down :P
[11:39] <La_PaRCa> yeah, Im gonna take a long hard look at it