ScorpKingwell, got it. it should be - Exec=kdesu "mount -o loop" "" "/media/iso" just for the record. :D12:38
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BluesKajwhat is ScorpKing ?12:39
ScorpKingservice menu to mount iso images. works great12:39
yeo_played with iPod touch the other day. nice12:39
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stdinhmm, now why do that sound familiar ScorpKing...12:39
mefisto_ScorpKing: like kiso12:39
r0y4lis there a kde tool to tile windows side by side?12:40
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BluesKajthe isofilename goes where the quotes are ?12:40
ScorpKingthe service menu in kiso don't work on my box. :(12:40
stdinScorpKing: mine should ^12:40
ScorpKingfor kiso*12:40
Jucatothis is the second time I see people using """""" to indicate where the filename would go :)12:41
ScorpKingdon't know where all the """"" comes from. should be % U there12:41
Jucato%u or12:42
ScorpKingmust be konversation12:42
Jucato%u or %U12:42
Jucato%U = underline12:42
ScorpKingunderline text12:42
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JucatoScorpKing: you need to use % % U to display %U12:43
ScorpKingah. will remember. hopefully :)12:44
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Jucatoworks with the others, too12:45
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ScorpKingstdin: that link would have helped a lot about 25 minutes ago. thanks anyway.12:45
stdinScorpKing: I wasn't here 25 mins ago :)12:46
ScorpKinglol. i know12:46
Jucatodidn't you do a search in kde-apps first?12:46
stdinScorpKing: it'll show you how to construct the mount command tho12:46
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ScorpKingi did search. that's how i figured out how to get it working. :)12:47
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ScorpKingstdin: how long have you been using linux? you always seem to have a solution for most of my problems. :D12:48
ti-grisI want to reinstall kubuntu on my second hard drive... I would guess that my hdb would be the one I'm using right now because it got the / and the swap partition....but on my other hard drive I got a /proc.....do I need this partition ?12:49
stdinScorpKing: heh, I guess about 11 years now, since I was 10 anyway12:49
Jucato(probably much longer than linux existed)12:49
Jucatotold yah12:49
ScorpKingstdin: lol. a lot longer than me.12:49
Jucato*a lot* longer than me too12:49
ScorpKingJucato: there was unix :P12:50
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stdinwhat can I say, I never liked windows :)12:50
yeo_stdin: lol12:50
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stdinti-gris: /proc isn't a partition, it's a pseudo filesystem that only exists in memory12:50
ScorpKingi only found out not too long ago that there was linux. heh12:50
yeo_i didnt use linux for like two months. and the amount of progress that it makes whenever ive taken a break from it is astounding12:51
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Neil3but rh 5.1 sucked12:51
yeo_especially in the 3d compositing stuff like compiz12:51
_gtt_anyone have any success specifying orientation for dual display arrangements in xorg.conf?12:51
yeo__gtt_: i used nvidia config12:52
ti-gristhank you stdin12:52
ScorpKingdual display. i need that. one for laptop and one for the tv.12:52
ScorpKingbut i don't have nvidia12:52
_gtt_yeo_: last time i used it broke my install.12:52
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yeo_you should be able to restore the previous settings. nvidia config makes  backup of xorg.conf12:53
_gtt_kind of avoiding it since it's so close to perfect (just need to know what in xorg.conf to change for orientation... mine doesn't specify anything, so i guess some crazy default ?12:53
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_gtt_i might try it again...12:53
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yeo_just make your own backup of xorg.conf12:54
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yeo_then if it goes fubar just use a tty to restore the config file12:54
Juacom99hi peopel12:54
_gtt_any way of getting xine to play ISO files?12:54
ScorpKingmount them first12:55
IzhevskHello. Help please install video drivers (Nvidia).12:55
_gtt_i was afraid of that.12:55
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ScorpKing_gtt_: i just wrote something to do just that, the easy way :D12:55
Juacom99sorry i ask an offtopic queistion but... someone know a good rol irc i cen connect??12:56
mefisto__gtt_: try stdin's script12:56
yeo_Izhevsk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:56
_gtt_i already got an alias for mounting an iso... so i guess i could just extend that.12:56
odematato install nvidia drivers type  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"12:56
stdin_gtt_: apps like kaffiene can play ISOs already12:56
_gtt_i can't get kaffeine to do it.12:57
_gtt_some kind of trick?12:57
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_gtt_i think mplayer does though12:57
yeo__gtt_: try xine dvd: filename.iso12:57
stdin_gtt_: you have to open URL as  dvd:///path/to/file.iso12:57
_gtt_what a bitch12:57
_gtt_lemme try that12:57
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Juacom99sorry i ask an offtopic queistion but... someone know a good rol irc i can connect??12:57
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vltAnyone here using Kubuntu Feisty w/o Konqueror crashing who could tell me how to achieve this?12:58
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ghozalahi i want a p2p file sharing program like ares or limewire works on kubuntu12:58
yeo_ghozala: kubuntu comes with ktorrent12:59
stdinJuacom99: ask in #kubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic or google, not here12:59
Juacom99is there an ares for kubuntu :|???12:59
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yeo_you can also install azureus12:59
WarteXcan someone help me how to play avi, xvid files in ubuntu.. i have vlc and many other players, but i just quits12:59
Juacom99ok thnaks stdin12:59
odemata_try limewire or frost wire12:59
ghozalayup is emule avliable for linux12:59
yeo_frost wire is a good one yes12:59
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mefisto_ghozala: there's amule01:00
Izhevskyeo_: THX!01:00
Juacom99is there an ares??01:00
yeo_no worries man01:00
BluesKajWarteX,  install libxine-extracodecs & w32codecs01:00
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odemata_havent seen a ares but frostwire connects to the same network i think01:01
mefisto_ghozala: but try ktorrent. it should already be installed in kubuntu01:01
Juacom99same chat network too??01:01
yeo_and then with ktorrent i reccomend www.thepiratebay.org01:01
ghozalaok but is ktorrent have sreach machhine for mp3s or videos01:01
yeo_yes it has an inbuilt search. it just searches torrent aggregation sites tho01:02
yeo_saves you doing it via a browser01:02
odemata_no chating in frostwire  http://www.frostwire.com/01:02
yeo_the site i  reccomended is nice tho01:02
ScorpKing_gtt_: still here?01:02
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_gtt_can't get it to work01:03
_gtt_makes me wonder if something else is going on though01:03
yeo_what you tryin 2 do gtt?01:03
ScorpKing_gtt_: this is what i just did. - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38735/01:03
vltWha does this SIGSEGV error mean I get from Konqueror all the time?01:03
odemata_sorry correction you can chat.01:03
_gtt_checking it ScorpKing01:04
mefisto__gtt_: is everything set up to play dvd's?01:04
_gtt_maybe not.01:04
WarteXtnx, but it played movies like 4 days ago, now it just quits.. i dont understand.. i think it happendes after i installed compiz-fusion01:04
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yeo_libdvdcss2 - install that01:04
_gtt_xine says it doesn't recognize the format01:04
yeo_WarteX: what program you using to play them?01:04
stdinScorpKing: you actually don't need all those quotes, the Exec: line doesn't break with spaces. you can even put more than one command separated with ;01:05
_gtt_already installed01:05
yeo_and libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs are installed?01:05
WarteXi try, vlc, wgine, kmplayer ++01:05
WarteXsame happens to everyone of them01:05
yeo_you get the same error with them all?01:05
ScorpKingthanks stdin. it still works tho. will try that later. lol01:05
Juacom99what the hell i'm downloadin at 45.5. never in my life i download that fast01:05
stdin_gtt_: try just "dvd:/path/to/file.iso"01:05
WarteXyes, extracodex got installed, but i got this error with w32, it says that it points to another prog01:06
yeo_Juacom99: lol. you should get on usenet my friend01:06
yeo_Juacom99: www.giganews.com01:06
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Juacom99what's that??01:06
yeo_Juacom99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet01:06
WarteXyes, i cant see any spesific error message, it just quits01:07
yeo_giganews is a usenet provider01:07
Juacom99sorry i'm new01:07
Juacom99that mean.....01:07
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_gtt_it works when i use control-o from caffeine and put the dvd:///folder/name/file.name.iso01:07
yeo_Juacom99: im relatively new man. here to help where i can01:07
odemata_one could try this for file sharing http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2601/google_search_divshare_for_free_music_videos_and_archives01:07
ScorpKingwe're all new at some stage...01:07
Juacom99sorry i must reset01:08
odemata_it uses google to search01:08
stdin_gtt_: be nice is there was an easy way tho :)01:08
Juacom99my kubuntu installation finish01:08
_gtt_yeah... maybe the script for mounting is easier?01:08
yeo_Juacom99: okay. cross your fingers and it should boot okay ;)01:08
ScorpKingJuacom99: welcome to the world of kubuntu. :D01:08
_gtt_err.. extending my alias01:08
Juacom99i already had kubuntu01:08
Juacom99but i reinstal windows01:09
stdin_gtt_: my script does that with a nice GUI and service menus </plug>01:09
Juacom99and the SO selection windows didn's apear any nmore01:09
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yeo_thats bum01:09
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ScorpKingstdin: i don't think he's got the link.01:09
stdinlink: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=6195501:10
Juacom99yep i reinstall bouth :S01:10
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tsbHello. I am using dualhead on my KDE 3.5.7 setup and every time I start kmail now, kwin crashes on that head (not the other screen). Any idea whats wrong?01:10
yeo_there is a way of installing grub so you dont have to but it seems scary#01:10
odemata_has anybody tried pc-bsd and compared it to kubuntu?01:10
mefisto_there's a DVD ISO IMAGE filter in kaffeine's open dialog01:10
ScorpKing_gtt_: use the one from stdin. it more clever than mine. :P01:10
yeo_tsb: are you using two separate X sessions (one per screen) or Xinerama?01:10
Juacom99a fiend toll me it was a way01:11
tsbyeo_: not xinerama 2 seperate screens01:11
Juacom99but reintsalin was faster :)01:11
stdinodemata_: BSD is not Linux01:11
Juacom99i use it for less dthan aweek before reinstaling XP01:11
purpleposeidonI'll give a dollar to someone who pulls off sudo apt-get install *01:11
_gtt_going to eat.01:11
_gtt_thanks for your help01:11
Juacom99so i did't have much programs an d files01:11
WarteXtnx for help anyways =)01:11
BluesKajstdin, I'm trying to copy the script to the /bin/ file as directed but the the /bin file won't accept it01:11
odemata_right i know its a unix derivative, but i wanted to know how does it compare to kubuntu01:12
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tsbyeo_: And if I restart kwin it autoexplodes again if kmail is open.01:12
stdinBluesKaj: there is a deb, it's easier to use that, or the installer script I included01:12
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BluesKajstdin, does it install to the right dir tho ?01:13
yeo_tsb: i dont really know much about that. have you looked into forums/irc for kmail?01:13
yeo_it might be a known issue01:13
tsbyeo_: #kde pointed me this way :)01:13
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stdinBluesKaj: the installer script will install system-wide or for your user, you can choose :)01:14
tsbyeo_: to be sure, I'll log out, turn off dualhead and see if the problem is still there, beb01:14
BluesKajok thx stdin , good01:14
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mefisto_stdin: sounds like you've done a nice job!01:15
stdinfeedback on it is welcome too01:15
mefisto_I'll go get it and try it out01:16
TameLionoff to bed.. night all! o/01:16
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yeo_stdin: you program stuff other than shell scripts?01:17
stdinyeo_: I'm learning C++ right now01:17
yeo_me too :)01:17
yeo_im actually trying to port a crappy dos app i made to linux right now01:17
odemata_when the kubuntu comes out will it include the latest verison of kde?01:18
ScorpKingso am i. loaded thinking i c++ into ktouch. two in one. lol, have to port a dos app as well. :)01:19
yeo_i believe so01:19
stdingusty will have kde 3.5.7 yes01:19
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odemata_ok. but not 4?01:19
yeo_4 isnt finalised yet01:19
yeo_beta version right now i think?01:19
stdinodemata_: kde4 isn't out yet, won't be untill at least december01:19
yeo_compiz fusion will be included apparently01:20
yeo_(which is awesome)01:20
odemata_when 4 comes out how can you upgrade to it01:20
yeo_using apt i assume01:20
odemata_yes ive seen it. very good01:20
stdinodemata_: there will be packages available, like the ones for the beta201:20
odemata_great. i hope it will put vista to shame01:21
yeo_vista is a shit01:21
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stdinwatch the language in here :)01:21
odemata_i know. the worst01:21
joaquinhey i'm back :)01:22
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odemata_that's what promted me to move to linux01:22
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odemata_since it was longhorn i never liked it01:22
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yeo_the only OS i use are Mac OSX and linux01:23
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yeo_run my games in cedega or vmware fusion01:23
juacom99waht's your game name?? :O01:23
yeo_i play eve online and cs source01:24
juacom99:o i'll google it01:24
stdinScorpKing: I made it because I wanted something to just loop mount files, nothing else. and it's light on resources as it's just a pretty shell script :)01:24
yeo_you'll get a load of crap about scales and #4's ;)01:24
ScorpKingstdin: i like it. there's a lot one can learn from it. :)01:25
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mefisto_stdin: your script auto opens the folder after mount, but doesn't seem to like the space in "New Folder"01:25
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juacom99mmm 10 pages of locrian :S01:26
yeo_so you booted successfully juacom?01:26
stdinmefisto_: hmm, that should be an easy fix01:26
juacom99yep np01:27
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juacom99does you game have a page01:27
yeo_if you want some fun check out compiz fusion ;)01:27
yeo_what you mean?01:27
juacom99or anywhere i can download it??01:27
juacom99i did01:27
mefisto_stdin: that's why I mention it. also, can you get the servicemenu to auto install for dolphin too (if present)?01:27
juacom99[20:26]  <yeo_> so you booted successfully juacom?01:27
juacom99sotty taht wasn not the quot01:28
juacom99[20:26]  <juacom99> mmm 10 pages of locrian :S01:28
juacom99tha one XD01:28
stdinmefisto_: I'll have to look at dolphin to see where it does that. but it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)01:28
ScorpKingi should get to bed. nite guys.01:29
juacom99good night01:29
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MacZtttlkworkHi! Does anybody know about a good iso mounting tool? I have downloaded mount -iso 0.9.1 from kde-apps.org but the installer didn't work.01:31
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stdin*cough* http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=6195501:31
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MacZtttlkworkthanks stdin...01:32
MacZtttlkworkI did a top rated search... and the other had better marks tough.01:33
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stdinthen vote for mine to get it a higher rating :p01:33
Jucatobut look at the author of that script and the person who suggested it to you01:33
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BluesKajjucato.....now now :)01:34
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Jucatostdin: you didn't put up a screenshot?01:34
MacZtttlkworkI'll put my vote as fast as I try the program ;-)01:34
tsbOkay; I just turned off dualhead and kmail keeps crashing so it isn't that. A few days ago I installed KDE manually to /usr/local/kde-svn, but I'm guessing it is somehow related; I'd like to just reinstall kde from kubuntu, I did a sudo aptitude reinstall kdelibs kdelibs-data bdebase kdebase-bin kdepim, but it is still there. any packages I should try to reinstall?01:35
Jucatovote if it works of course :)01:35
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stdinJucato: no, I just haven't got around to it yet01:35
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tsbSo this is what happens: I start kmail and kwin crashes. kmail doesn't really crash itself.01:37
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tsbI'd do aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop but that would only reinstall the metapackage I guess01:38
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mefisto_stdin: how do I unmount?01:43
stdinmefisto_: start mountfile and choose unmount01:44
stdinKMenu > Utilities > Mount File01:44
mefisto_doesn't find the mount. I mounted from the servicemenu01:44
stdinshould still find it...  what's in ~/.mount ?01:45
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mefisto_stdin: nothing01:46
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luboshello, is it safe to upgrade postgres 7.4 to 8.1 ? what are the steps to achieve it? do I have to remove postgresql 7.4 first? thank you01:47
ghozalahay how can i install an hp printer01:47
stdinohh, I think i see what happened...01:47
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stdinmefisto_: it's bug day for me :p  you'll have to unmount manually for now until I fix that (give me a few mins)01:47
Jucatolubos: you are talking about Kubuntu versions?01:47
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MacZtttlkworkdo I have to run as root?01:48
ghozalahay how can i install an hp printer01:48
ghozalahay how can i install an hp printer01:48
ghozalahay how can i install an hp printer01:48
Jucato!printers | ghozala01:48
ubotughozala: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:48
Jucato!patience | ghozala01:48
ubotughozala: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:48
lubosJucato: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS01:48
stdinMacZtttlkwork: no, you can install it as root but then it will ask you for your password when it needs to use sudo (kdesu)01:49
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MacZtttlkworkAn hp printer is suppossed to be installed quite easily...01:49
MacZtttlkworkstdin but when the dialog asks me for the destination...01:49
ghozalai am sorry but i have research must be prited and thank u all01:49
Jucatolubos: there's no 8.10 version yet. that will be released October of 200801:49
MacZtttlkworkI click in my home folder "create folder" and it says I have no permissions :S01:49
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lubosJucato: postgresql-8.1 - object-relational SQL database, version 8.1 server | apt-cache search01:50
Jucatolubos: the most current version is 7.04. the next version to be released is 7.10 which is next month. 7.10 = 2007, 10th month = 2007 October01:50
Jucatoaaah ok01:50
Jucatolol sorry01:50
lubosJucato: I mean postgresql version01:50
Jucato(what a coincidence that the numbers are slightly similar)01:50
stdinMacZtttlkwork: can you create a folder in konqueror/dolpgin to test? mountfile actually doesn't create the directory, it calls kdialog to do that01:51
MacZtttlkworkok I'll see... wait a sec01:51
Jucatolubos: it *should* be available as an upgrade to an existing version, and you don't have to remove the previous version.01:51
Jucatothat's how updates normally work01:51
MacZtttlkworkI know the error...01:51
MacZtttlkworkmy hd is full01:51
stdinheh :p01:51
stdinthat one thing you _can't_ blame on me :)01:52
lubosJucato: so I just go apt-get install postgresql-8.1 and that is all ;-) ?01:52
MacZtttlkworkHope in KDE 4 there will be more... information about such things... sometimes you don't realise and it can be really annoying lol01:52
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Jucatostdin: you have experience with postgresql ^^^01:52
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stdinJucato: nope01:52
Jucatolubos: you mean it's not available as an upgrade but as a separate package?01:53
lubosyes there are two packages...01:53
Jucatonow that's a bit more... um.. complicated :P01:53
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lubosJucato: :-)01:54
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MurchadhAnyone installed webmin in kubuntu 7.04? Not in the repos?01:55
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ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system01:55
MacZtttlkworkstdin: LOL, I was also wondering why frostwire didn't work...........because the hard disk was full!! And the program asked me to sent a bug report to the programmers :P01:55
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MurchadhThanks Jucato!01:56
JucatoMacZtttlkwork: just hope that the bug report you sent doesn't say "Not working, Disk Full" :D01:56
BlueVetteHere's a strange one:  Friend picked up a 2gb Firefly (Lexar) usb device.  Started copying files over...  and after 124 files copied, it kept failing to write to the device, unless a file was first removed.  KDiskFree and meta-info on the device said 1.4GB free, but was acting full.  So, made a folder, moved the files into it, and then was able to continue adding files......  ever hear of that before?01:56
truthWhats the best burning programs for Kubuntu?01:56
Jucatotruth: k3b01:57
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ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.01:57
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BluesKajtruth, depends on what you want to burn01:57
mefisto_but really, k3b is best for burning isn't it?01:57
mefisto_or commandline01:58
MacZtttlkworkJucato: lol!01:58
MacZtttlkworkwell I have to sleep... bye!01:58
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BluesKajtovid is great for avi to dvd , k3b is great for iso and audio01:58
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truthIs there anything like Nero available?01:59
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mefisto_k3b is like nero02:00
truthI mainly burn .iso dvd's and audio02:00
BluesKajthere's nero-linux but it sucks ...k3b is better02:00
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Jucatoat least on Linux, K3b is better than Nero02:00
BlueVetteK3b is nice.02:00
kkathmanNero is just confusing02:00
Jucatotruth: K3b can do those02:00
BlueVetteI prefer it to Nero02:00
truthGonna get k3b then, Mucho Gracias02:00
mefisto_k3b has never failed me once. try it truth02:01
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mefisto_truth: should be installed already02:01
yeo_installed by default with kubu02:01
Jucatoit failed to make me coffee though02:01
Jucatoso I don't think k3b is the best :P02:01
truthOk. lol@coffee02:01
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ghozalai cant find my hp printer through the list of drivers what can i do02:02
mefisto_ghozala: you could try one that sounds similar and see if it works02:03
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zengen1Does anyone know of a linux irc client that is comparable to mIRC with autoget.  I've messed a few of the XChat scripts, but none really do anything.  The Zeus script looked to be somewhat close but hell if I can get it work.02:03
truthwhat about avi to dvd? i need to convert to mp4 first eh?02:03
ghozalaok i will thanks02:03
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Jucatotruth: you'll need to convert it to mpeg.. but try BluesKaj's advice about tovid02:04
mikeh66Will K3b run on kubu 6402:05
Jucatoafaik, yes02:05
mefisto_truth: mandvd does it too I think, and is very easy to use02:05
mikeh66I will look it up02:05
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sainzeo_i recently replaced the linux driver for my atheros wireless card with a windows one using ndiswrapper - it is now causing lockups, how do i revert back?02:09
ghozalahay i ve tried all models no one able to print test page02:10
zengen1sainzeo: I was having that problem.  Making sure the kernel headers were updated fixed my problem.02:11
sainzeo_zengen1: do you remember the command to do that?02:11
zengen1sudo apt-get update then sudu apt-get upgrade should do it.02:12
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sainzeo_zengen1: i'm already running the latest headers i believe: 2.6.20-1602:14
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mikeh66I tried to download flash player, but it asked me which of the three I wanted02:16
mefisto_does anyone know if the coloured nicks in konversation means anything? or is it just random colours for different nicks?02:16
zengen1I'm not sure then.  Have you tried ubuntuforums.org?02:16
mikeh66not yet02:16
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robinwhats new02:17
zengen1Mikeh66: That was for someone else.  What are the three it offers?02:17
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Jucatomefisto_: random. except for your own02:18
Jucatoyou can set that02:18
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mikeh66I am running kubu64, it offered rpm, yum, and something else02:18
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zengen1You want the tar.gz02:18
Jucato!flash64 | mikeh6602:18
ubotumikeh66: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:18
mefisto_is the flash player not in repos?02:19
stdinman packaging can be a pita, it's taking more time updating changelogs then updating code02:19
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Jucatostdin: yeah...02:19
Jucatospecially if you mean Debian packages...02:20
stdinwell, I have to update the ChangeLog and debian/changelog :p02:20
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Jucatothe tradeoff of Debian's superb package management system...02:21
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icecoollibcairo assertion failed problem with xaralx.... . . . can anyone help?02:30
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BluesKajicecool, what may i ask is xaralax ?02:35
BluesKajerr xaralx02:35
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icecoolxaralx is a vector illustrator02:36
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icecoolman so many people here02:38
icecooland not one to help me out02:38
Tm_Ticecool: you mean: noone knows about your problem02:40
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icecoolnoone has any solution to my problem02:43
icecooli like pasted the problem many times yet no answer02:43
icecoolTm_T: do u have a solution02:43
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icecoolthe problem is libcairo assertion fails with xara startup02:44
BluesKajpasted where ?02:44
kilraewhere did asciiquariam go?02:44
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icecoollibcairo assertion failed problem with xaralx02:45
kilraeoh, silly me02:45
icecoolso is there anyone to help me?02:45
BluesKajdoes xara use java , python or perl02:47
Jucatoqt afaik02:47
Jucatoicecool: I'm not sure the people who are available right now (that is, the ones who can actually read your question) knows02:48
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Jucatohm.. or was it wxwidgets that xara is using...02:48
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)02:49
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icecoolwell the question is simple ..... i installed xara now i cant run it ... when i run it through terminal i get the following error xaralx: /build/buildd/libcairo-1.4.2/src/cairo-ft-font.c:659: _cairo_ft_unscaled_font_set_scale: Assertion `error == 0' failed.02:51
BluesKajicecool, i think your question might be better answered by ppl who are familiar with heavy duty graphics apps instead of a kubuntu help chat02:51
icecooldo u know of any irc channel for that?02:51
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coreymon77!hi | kozo02:52
ubotukozo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:52
BluesKajicecool, looking02:52
icecooli dont think its a xara problem it may be more of a libcairo problem02:53
kozoi need some help whit my menu.lst, in my grub ther is xp but when i try to boot ther comes wrong partion (how can i get the right to boot xp)02:53
kozoi have 402:54
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Jucatoicecool: just a hint, might want to ask in #ubuntu as Cairo is a GTK thing02:54
Jucato(which kinda tells me Xara isn't using Qt :P)02:54
Jucatoer.. "just a guess" I mean02:55
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ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.02:56
kilraeis it possible to get xscreensavers working?02:56
kozoin menu.lst ther is (hd0,1) for xp02:56
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Jucatokozo: /dev/hda1   *           1        9732    78172258+   7  HPFS/NTFS <--- is that were XP is?02:57
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BluesKajkozo , copy&paste your menu.lst in pastebin02:58
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Jucatohda1 = hd0,0 not hd0,102:58
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Jucatokozo: yes it should be hd0,002:59
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cleveri suspect a recent apt-get upgrade has messed up my X server's performance, how would i back it up?02:59
stdin!nickspam > Stinky02:59
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Jucatokozo: but you could test it first or you could wait for someone else to confirm03:00
kozothanks i give it a try03:00
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kozoyes i make a reboot a test it now03:00
cleverim guessing the change 2007-09-24 18:11:54 upgrade xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.6 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.7 broke it03:00
kozothanks again for the help03:01
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DayveI have an unusual question, I think... I'm trying to delete some useless files as root to make room on a very full partition and I can't, because I don't have adequate permissions.  as root03:01
JucatoDayve: what files would those be?03:02
juacom99hi, can anyone plese help me configurin a Epson cx3900 than is plug in in a PC in my local net03:02
DayveJucato, nothing important... just a computer game I don't remember extracting to this folder and a huge torrented file that is taking up space03:03
Jucatobut it's in a root-owned folder? weird...03:04
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Jucatotry using sudo... or use "kdesu konqueror" so you can do it graphically03:04
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DayveJucato, actually, it's on a 10 GB FAT32 partition... root owns everything, but all users are supposed to be allowed to add and remove stuff03:05
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Jucatohm.. I think FAT32 partitions are readable and writeable by regular users (the owner)03:05
Jucatoat least depending if it's mounted that way03:05
DayveI thought so too, but the computer isn't letting me delete anything03:06
Dayveit says... "Read-only file system" and I checked fstab and I unmounted it and mounted it with a "-w" in there and it still says that, even when I try to delete the folders as root03:06
juacom99hi, can anyone plese help me configurin a Epson cx3900 than is plug in in a PC in my local net03:06
Jucato!fat32 | Dayve03:07
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ubotuDayve: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:07
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Hacker_init ctcp Gotcha03:12
Hacker_any drivers for the vivitar mini digital camera03:13
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Hacker_bigleon: hello03:16
Hacker_ana: hello03:16
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Hacker_wow. what intellectually stimulating disscussion! ;-)03:18
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Hacker_ardchoille: hello03:20
Tm_THacker_: why you make so much noise?03:20
Hacker_what you say?03:21
Tm_Tyou make a lot of senseless noise03:21
stdinscroll up, that's the great thing about text, you can read it twice03:21
ardchoilleTm_T: ignore lists rock!03:22
Tm_Tardchoille: when I have to use ignore, that would mean destruction of this channel ;)03:22
stdinwhile /ignore is nice, /mode #kubuntu +q user  is nicer03:23
ardchoilleHas anyone been able to get the konq browser to work with http://www.googlepages.com ?03:23
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ardchoillestdin: Indeed03:23
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gustavowhat happened with demonoid? :(03:25
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Hacker_Hi, stdin03:26
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.03:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:26
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:26
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.03:26
stdin!botabuse > Hacker_03:27
EightiesKsorry just needed lynx03:27
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HackerWhat did i miss?03:28
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Hacker!anything > Hacker03:30
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Hacker!nothing > Hacker03:30
stdinstop that03:30
NickPrestahey nosrednaekim03:31
nosrednaekimwhats up?03:31
Hackerthe menu bar03:31
Hackeror a direction03:31
nosrednaekimno... thats to the left..03:31
HackerThe Oxford Dictionary's take on "up"03:32
Hacker"The direction opposite to the pull of gravity"03:33
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mefisto_it was inevitable I suppose03:33
stdinHacker: if you have nothing useful to say, don't speak03:33
zengen1Does anyone know of a linux alternative to mIRC with Autoget?03:34
NickPrestazengen1, autoget?03:34
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zengen1A dcc que script.03:34
zengen1And list grabber.03:34
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quixogream i here now?03:35
mneptokzengen1: look for XChat scripts. they are legion.03:35
zengen1Yeah, I've tried 4.  Zeus looked to be the best, but I can't get it to run.  The others aren't really what I wanted.03:36
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stdindamn, my ban-foo is failing me03:40
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quixogrehi alex_03:44
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:45
alex_quien eres03:45
quixogre!es |alex_03:46
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ubotualex_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:46
alex_hola tocallo03:46
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mrdigitalanyone ever use a firewire cable STB in ubuntu?03:48
sainzeo_i recently installed windows drivers for my atheros wireless using ndiswrapper and am suddenly seeing freezes that require pressing the power button - any suggestions?03:49
quixogredang sainzeo. yer havin a rough day huh?03:50
gnomefreakstdin: thats worth a shot but looks kind of different03:50
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: yeah.,. that happens to me occasionally as well03:51
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: what atheros chipset do you have?03:51
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quixogresainzeo i cant even install my windows drivers because ndiswrapper freezes on install03:52
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quixogrebroadcom wireless cards suck for linux03:53
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zengen1quixogre: are you using apt-get for your ndiswrapper or compiling it?03:55
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: i believe its like 5007eg03:55
sainzeo_is it possible to remove ndiswrapper and revert back to the original driver?03:55
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: yes it is possible... and the 5007 is one of the few that are unsupported03:55
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: how can i uninstall ndiswrapper and get the old driver back?03:56
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: unblacklist the ath_pci, and that will do it.03:56
quixogrezengen: compiling it. theres a HOWTO page dedicated to my ethernet card03:56
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: oh, thats it???03:56
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: that SHOULD do it..03:56
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: just unblacklist it then remove ndiswrapper?03:56
nosrednaekimalong with a good reboot03:57
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: yep03:57
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sainzeo_nosrednaekim: i believed i compiled it from source, does that matter?03:57
Juacom99hei again03:57
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nosrednaekimsainzeo_: that makes it a bit harder... just when you unblacklist ath-pci, blacklist ndiswrapper03:58
nosrednaekimand that should do it.03:58
sainzeo_@nosrednaekim: i can't "uninstall" ndiswrapper at all, just blacklist it?03:58
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: how do i go about blacklisting ndiswrapper?03:58
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: you know where you blacklisted ath_pci?03:58
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sainzeo_nosrednaekim: yeah i think so03:59
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sainzeo_nosrednaekim: just type in ndiswrapper instead of ath_pci?04:00
nosrednaekimsainzeo_: well, just replace "ath_pci" with "ndiswrapper"04:00
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LordBacondoes kubuntu have a easy way to restore grub with the livedvd? or should I just mount the real system and chroot in?04:00
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: how do i make sure it's using the old driver again after i do that?04:00
nosrednaekimit is :)04:00
sainzeo_nosrednaekim: okay thanks! i'll let ya know!04:01
mefisto_LordBacon: what do you need to restore?04:03
_gtt_he said grub04:03
_gtt_i suggest the supergrub cd04:03
LordBaconI was trying to install windows, but failed miserably04:03
_gtt_it is superb04:03
_gtt_LordBacon: get supergrub04:04
Juacom99anyone know if there is ther any mns plus like program04:04
LordBaconI know I can mount the real root and /boot partition under that, chroot in and do it manually, but I wondering if the kubuntu livedvd has a wizard to do it04:04
LordBacon_gtt_: it would take more time, effort, and blank cds than I care to spend04:04
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mefisto_LordBacon: or take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:05
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LordBaconok, that just tells me how to do it manually04:06
mefisto_LordBacon: it takes 5 minutes04:07
LordBaconI know, but ubuntu is made for me to be lazy04:07
LordBaconand after 12 years of linux, I want to be really lazy04:07
nosrednaekimLordBacon: what do you want, magic? clicking on a button is manual ;)04:07
LordBacona magic button that would scan my hd and do it all for me04:08
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mefisto_LordBacon, that's too lazy04:08
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nosrednaekimLordBacon: truely lazy people are programmers...04:08
quixogrelordbacon, boot from the cd. get to a command promt, and enter the following: grub-install hd004:09
quixogrethat will reinstall grub04:09
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rancecan someone tell me how to set the sound device to allow NON excusive access on kubuntu 7.04?  My vmware keeps telling me it cant send the sound card to the vm OS because its in use in the host, cant they share?04:10
LordBaconesd doesn't like to share04:10
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LordBaconit learned that from it's days of running in the enlightenment gang04:10
ranceanything I can do about that?04:11
nosrednaekimrance: its in the sound configuration, enable duplex.04:11
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nosrednaekimand have KDE lose control immediately.04:11
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sainzeonosrednaekim: well looks like that worked, i'm gonna test by moving a large file over from a network computer (thats when it would always freeze) to test04:12
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quixogreforgive me father for i am sinning...im installing windows on a computer as we speak04:12
nosrednaekimyou blacklisted ndiswrapper, so you're running madwifi?04:12
nosrednaekimquixogre: shame on you.04:13
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ranceok, thanks all04:13
quixogrecant be helped. im taking windows server class04:13
nosrednaekimsainzeo: so you are running the madwifi driver?04:14
quixogrethey wouldnt accept "linux is better" as an excuse fir not installing windows04:14
sainzeonosrednaekim: haha i'm not sure, i'm thinking whichever one kubuntu uses as default to begin with - if thats the madwifi then yes haha04:14
nosrednaekimquixogre: can you do it from within a VM?04:14
nosrednaekimsainzeo: do a "lspci | grep ath"04:15
quixogrethe class? tried that. they said "nope"04:15
sainzeonosrednaekim: nothing pops up after entering it04:15
nosrednaekimwhoops :) its "lsmod | grep ath"04:16
sainzeonosrednaekim: here's what i get:04:16
sainzeothen some numbers04:17
nosrednaekimnow try "lsmod | grep ndis"04:17
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sainzeonosrednaekim: ndiswrapper04:17
gustavohas someone ever installed DBDesigner on linux?04:17
jackie_new tot his.04:18
quixogrewelcome jackie_04:18
sainzeonosrednaekim: it seems like its fixed cause i was able to copy over a large file without any freeze04:18
sainzeoknock on wood04:18
nosrednaekimsainzeo: haha... well it seems you have both drivers loaded... but whatever works ;)04:18
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sainzeonosrednaekim: i blacklisted the ndiswrapper...what else could i do to make sure it doesn't load?04:19
nosrednaekimIDK... its odd.. but anyway... if it works ;)04:19
sainzeonosrednaekim: yeah we'll see04:19
nosrednaekimdon't mess with it04:19
sainzeonosrednaekim: i won't haha, thanks for all your help!04:19
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quixogreso.....who wants to make fun of windows?04:24
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mefisto_chkdsk. ahahaahaa04:25
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quixogrei feel so soul dirty...installing windows is bad for the04:26
quixogregah. i REALLY need to disable my touchpad04:26
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mefisto_why don't they have a simple on/off switch on those things?04:31
nosrednaekimmy laptop does04:31
mefisto_oh, good idea04:31
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quixogrewish mine did04:32
quixogrestupid dell04:32
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nosrednaekimwow... I thought that was standard04:34
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mefisto_it's a common niusance04:34
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nosrednaekimspelling is one too.04:37
BlueVette Ever stop to think that maybe the Emperor (StarWars) shouldn't have designed a death-suck-hole 10 feet away from his "throne"?  Or maybe, when having the hand-rails designed to surround said hole, that he should have had Darth Vader stand on his tip toes with his arms fully extended upwards to set the proper "safety height"?04:37
mefisto_that has never crossed my mind BlueVette04:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:38
BlueVettehmm.. just me then.04:38
sainzeonosrednaekim: hey another question - with this other driver, my wireless signal always appears at like 50% even though windows would report it at close too 80 or above04:41
nosrednaekimsainzeo: yeah... the atheros driver is terrible at reporting signal stregnths correctly.04:42
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nosrednaekimsainzeo: thats normal ;)04:42
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sainzeonosrednaekim: so it should still be operating at normal speeds though?04:42
nosrednaekimshould be..04:42
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jimmy_Hi, has anyone here gotten Joost to run via wine? I've followed the tutorial, but it gives me Signature Check Failed errors.04:44
kgxcan gaim and kopete import contact lists? or will i have to create contact list file myself if i want to "import" contacts04:44
stdinjimmy_: try asking in #winehq04:44
nosrednaekimkgx: what do you mean by contact list?04:44
sainzeonosrednaekim: another question, haha sorry, would you know a fix to why kopete won't allow me to start a chat using the groupwise plugin, but am able to chat with other users as long as they start the chat first?04:44
mefisto_kgx: contact lists are usually part of your account04:45
nosrednaekimsainzeo: no clue.. I don't really use kopete very much04:45
jimmy_stdin: thanks04:45
sainzeonosrednaekim: what do you use? gaim/pidgin?04:45
quixogresainzeo: try using gaim, see if it will let you use groupwise04:45
nosrednaekimalthough I just switched to kopete since it has google talk voice support04:45
nosrednaekim(in SVN)04:46
kgxwhat i mean is, lets say my web application has x number of users. i want any user to be able to select those users, click on download, and then import this list into their gaim contacts04:46
sainzeoquixogre: i know pidgin works fine - i would just like to keep kopete so it fits in nicer with kde04:46
kgxsainzeo: i prefer kopete too04:47
mefisto_is pidgin the new name, or gaim?04:47
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nosrednaekimpigind is new04:47
sainzeomefisto_: yes, pidgin is the new gaim04:47
sainzeomefisto_: i actually prefer it over kopete, but kopete blends better with kde imo04:48
sainzeothere must be a way to get groupwise working correctly with kopete - i mean kopete comes with openSUSE kde and that has to work considering it is novell haha04:49
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quixogrenovell probably uses pidgin04:53
sainzeoquixogre: for their kde version?04:53
Jucatoof course not :)04:53
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quixogrehehe if it works...04:54
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Juacom99can anyoen pese help me with a noob question :$04:54
quixogresorry, im in a bad mood. installing windows always makes me cranky04:54
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dcossonis there any special channel for gutsy or anything?04:54
quixogrejuacom, dont ask to ask, just ask ;)04:54
stdindcosson: #ubuntu+104:54
Juacom99i'm tring to install FrostWire04:55
Juacom99i went to the oficial page04:55
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ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:55
Juacom99thanksss!!! is downloaing04:56
Juacom99i don't know why firefox didn't start the download04:57
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quixogreanyne here used vista yet?05:04
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Juacom99i got a firnd who has vista05:04
Juacom99it sucks :S05:04
quixogreheard you cant dual boot with vista05:05
Juacom99fuckinf microsoft 05:05
quixogreits what i heard, was trying to get confirmation05:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:05
Juacom99now thy don't alow people to have 2 OS05:05
quixogrestdin in his defense, the word microsoft is SUPPOSED to be preceded by a pejorative05:06
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quixogrea crude or offensive slang term05:07
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Juacom99sorry i don't speack english05:08
Juacom99actualy i'm really bat at it05:08
quixogres'okay neither do i05:08
quixogrenah you speak pretty good so far.05:08
Juacom99where ae you from05:08
mefisto_it doesn't mean slang, or offensive05:08
quixogretexas. i speak spanglish05:08
Juacom99naa i make gramatics horrors05:09
Juacom99i'm from Uruguay05:09
quixogrehabla espanol?05:09
Juacom99but not here05:09
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quixogreyo hablamos un poco..no es perfecto, pero esta bien para un bollio05:10
Juacom99i didn't know that chanells even exist05:10
Juacom99you speak ok (Y)05:10
quixogreokies. time for me to go home. goodnight all05:11
Juacom99good night05:11
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LordBaconwhat's the best fs for a general datastore, including movies music, software, source, images, and other random crap?05:13
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mefisto_LordBacon: fat32 can be easily accessed by many systems05:15
mefisto_if that's what you're thinking05:15
LordBacondon't care about that part05:15
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stdinext3 is generally the one to go for05:15
LordBaconFat32 has a small filesize limit so I can't store isos anyway05:15
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fiyahbunDoes anyone have both KDM session and GDM on their comp05:16
thomas_how to upload to an ssh server?05:16
LordBaconscp file user@host:path05:17
kkathmanfiyahbun: yep05:17
stdinthomas_: from command like: "scp filename user@host:/path/to/save" from Konqueror  use   sftp://user@host05:17
kkathmanfiyahbun:  im in kubuntu at the moment but have gdm also available05:18
fiyahbunok, i started off with ubuntu, but i recently found out about kubuntu and wanted to see how different it is05:18
thomas_stdin: thank you05:18
kkathmanfiyahbun:  sure05:18
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fiyahbunso i downloaded kdedesktop, but when i tried to go into my kdm session, it stops loading after window manager and now all i see is a background, no icons, no taskbar, nothing05:19
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fiyahbunu have any idea what's the problem?05:19
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randy__please help, adept crashed during update and x won't start now. Error says "Failure to load module 'wfb' (module does not exist, 0)"05:22
purpleposeidonHow do I up my resolution?05:23
purpleposeidonThere isn't any display module in system settings....05:23
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purpleposeidonand krandr only shows "crappy" and "crappier" for screen resolutions...05:24
LordBaconI just broke my box again05:25
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LordBaconI just gparted'd all my partitions around since I gave up on installing windows, now I'll have to go edit the fstab and menu.lst05:25
LordBaconwoo, fun05:25
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marius_i have a question05:27
kkathmanfiyahbun:  so you did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?05:28
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nine01aI'm really impressed with Kubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5.05:28
kkathman!ask | marius_05:28
ubotumarius_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:28
marius_i am trying to make mp3 work on kubintu05:28
kkathman!mp3 | marius_05:28
ubotumarius_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:28
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nine01aInstall libmad should do the trick.05:28
stdinno it won't05:29
ardchoillelibxine1-ffmpeg ?05:29
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nemisisdoes anyone know how to open up ports for ktorrent to use?05:29
nine01aOoh I just remembered it was a xine-libmad plugin to be used in Amarok.05:29
fiyahbunkkathman: yeah05:30
fiyahbunkkathman: i installed everythin included the updates05:31
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kkathmanfiyahbun:  hmm, you might reboot and see ?05:32
nine01anemisis: the uPnP plugin might work (not sure though). I had to go to my router config to do it. 192.168.X.105:32
nemisisnin01a: i've already tried that, the router config i'll check. (i just have to remember to port used to access)05:33
fiyahbunkkathman: i restarted the computer05:33
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nine01anemisis: And then after you get those ports fowarded, you'll probably want to make your IP static too.05:33
fiyahbunkkathman: at one point i thought beryl from gnome had something to do with it, its in the startup, but i disabled it and it still won't load kubuntu05:34
marius_nemesis put a three in front of the port number05:34
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marius_that helped me05:34
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marius_the purt u r using may be blacklisted05:34
kkathmanfiyahbun: that shouldnt have anything to do with it, as I have compiz-fusion on both - but their settings are different05:34
nemisisnine01a: ok, do you know if the linksys site will have instructions to access router settings05:34
marius_u need to change it05:34
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nine01anemisis: it'll be and the zero might be a 1 or 2 as well.05:35
nine01aNot sure about Linksys.05:35
LordBaconok, what's all this about UUIDs in my fstab?05:35
fiyahbunkkathman: did u start with kubuntu and then got ubuntu or vice versa?05:35
kkathmanfiyahbun:  i'd suggest booting to the console and then startx  so you can maybe see the errors05:35
LordBaconhow can I see the UUIDs from the cli?05:35
kkathmanfiyahbun:  started with ubuntu and installed kubuntu05:36
ardchoilleLordBacon: blkid05:36
nemisisnine01a: ok, i'm in.05:36
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fiyahbunkkathman: ok, well i'm still new to this, so go to the console and type startx?05:37
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thomas_stdin: if I am connected to the the ssh server, can I issue: scp username@ip:/home/username/document/asdf.html .05:37
nine01anemisis: I've got a Linksys wrt65gc now that I look at it so I can probably help you more05:37
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ardchoillekkathman: Are you wanting to log into kde instead of gnome?05:37
stdinthomas_: only if you have an ssh server running on your system05:37
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ardchoilleLordBacon: :)05:38
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kkathmanardchoille:  ?? no, I can do that fine - its fiyahbun that is having the probs05:38
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ardchoillekkathman: Ah, ok05:38
fiyahbunardchoille: yes, i'm tryin to get in kde but for some reason it seems to stop loading after the window manager icon lights up and then the splash screen dissappears and i'm left with just a background05:39
nemisisnine01a:ok, i'm in the Apps & Gaming/UPnP tab05:39
ardchoillefiyahbun: What happens when you alt+f2 ?05:39
fiyahbunardchoille: haven't tried it, what does that do?05:40
ardchoilleIt opens up a run dialog05:40
nine01anemisis: I used the custom name boxes. Ktorrent = 6881 tcp, ktorrent UDP = 4444, DHT = 688205:40
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nine01anemisis: DHT is UDP as well.05:41
nemisisnine01a: it won't let me type in all of Ktorrent, it stops me before the last t05:41
fiyahbunardchoille: i'll try to log in and see what happens05:41
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nine01anemisis: Doesn't matter. It's for your own readability.05:42
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LordBaconhow much video ram should I give my card to run compiz and such ?05:43
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LordBaconI don't game, or do any real 3d stuff05:43
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nine01aLordBacon: not too much05:43
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LordBacon64 is fine?05:43
nine01aLordBacon: 128 MB on an ATi x200m works great.05:44
LordBaconk, I have 2G total, and up to 256 shared video05:44
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jcs7778My swap file doesn't seem to be working, ksysgard says that there is no swap space available. My computer only has 512 mb ram which is fine most of the time but here and there i do something that just makes it stop and i'm pretty sure that fixing my swap file will help.05:45
jaredanyone up to some sound troubleshooting that I can't seem to fix with any of the articles for troubleshooting?05:45
jcs7778any sugestions05:45
Dr_Willisjcs7778  make sure ya got a swap partition made, make sure its listed in /etc/fstab05:46
Dr_Willischeck with the 'free' command also.05:46
thomas_stdin: which I do05:46
stdinthomas_: then you can05:46
thomas_it times out05:46
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:47
jcs7778I know i have a swap partition on the disk, but actually i don't see one in fstab.05:48
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nemisis_nine01a: works great, i'm going fast enough now my lag is constantly going up on konversation05:48
thomas_stdin: it times out though05:48
stdinthomas_: if you're behind a firewall or router you'll need to setup port-forwarding or open the port on the firewall05:48
Dr_Willis#/dev/sda3      none            swap    sw              0       005:49
nine01anemisis_: Good. Is "DHT: . . " showing nodes in the status bar?05:49
Dr_Willisis a example fstab entry for swap05:49
thomas_stdin: i am able to connect to my machine already from outside05:49
nemisis_nine01a:it was, i had to close out ktorrent to reconnect to the irc05:49
LordBaconok, now this sucks05:49
stdinthomas_: then it should work, scp uses the same port as ssh05:50
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jcs7778no, it's completely gone but yeah, it actually is /dev/sda3 i know that for a fact, if i add that line and omit the # will that do it?05:50
thomas_stdin: scp username@myip:"/home/username/Documents/Html Files/interests.html" .05:50
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ardchoilleLordBacon: PM?05:51
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nemisis_nine01a:thanks for the help. :)05:52
Dr_Willisjcs7778 you will need to do the swapon command to activate the swap.05:53
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thomas_stdin: is that correct?05:55
stdinthomas_: yeah05:55
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fiyahbunkkatha, ardchoille: tried Alt F2, nothing works, only thing i could do was ctrl alt backspace to exit05:57
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ardchoillefiyahbun: Yeah, sounds like your kde session is b0rked05:58
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fiyahbunkkatha, ardchoille: were there any tweaks you had to do before installing and running the kde_desktop06:00
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thomas_stdin: hey i have a question, I think that I have my port forwarding configured to the wrong ip, so I tried pinging my net ip and it pinged back.......?06:01
stdinthomas_: that's probably your router pinging back06:02
stdinmine does that too06:02
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thomas_stdin: ohhh, but I didn't ping 192.....i pinged my net ip06:02
thomas_stdin: from the ssh server I connected to06:03
stdinthomas_: yeah, if I ping my external IP my router pings back06:03
Jaldoes anyone know the address for Ubuntu's general repo server? USA's giving me fits06:04
stdinJal: just take off the "us." bit06:06
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jhutchins_x!easysources | jai06:06
ubotujai: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:06
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ardchoillefiyahbun: I have never any problems with any *buntu release.. I just installed it and it ran fine.06:09
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Jal<.<;; ty...06:10
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ardchoilleJal: sudo sed -i.backup 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update06:11
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avt3kkhow do I start kubuntu in safe mode on my hd??06:11
avt3kkits just updated but06:12
avt3kkit wont start06:12
thomasstdin: how can I "ping" my ssh server from another ssh server?06:12
avt3kkx11 wont start I have special vid card06:12
thomasstdin: i want to be able to see if it responds to it06:12
thomasstdin: icmp packets wont read ssh right?06:12
stdinthomas_: you can't ping ssh, but you can try connecting with "ssh user@yourip"06:13
stdinavt3kk: safe mode? you mean recovery mode or something else?06:13
thomasstdin: is there another way to discover if my ssh server is running?06:14
thomasstdin: because for example I want to know if its running, or if something else is misconfigured06:14
stdinif it's running? yeah, "pidof sshd"  if that shows a number then it is06:14
thomasstdin: ok cool what is pidof lol06:15
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thomasstdin: ok i got man06:15
stdinpidof shows the PID of  a process :)06:15
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DaSkreechblast where is intelikey!06:16
DaSkreechstdin: doesn't ps06:16
DaSkreechand top?06:16
DaSkreechand Ksysguard?06:16
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stdinDaSkreech: yeah, but he wanted to know if sshd was running, and that's the quickest way06:16
DaSkreechok :)06:17
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DaSkreechkub-: try KNub06:17
Dr_Willisps ax | grep sshd      perhaps?06:17
Lynourethere are so many ways to see if it is running, that one has to choose one...06:17
DaSkreechCtrl+Esc typpe sshd06:17
stdinDr_Willis:  yeah, but "pidof sshd" is quicker06:17
DaSkreechssh into localhost?06:17
LynoureDaSkreech: does not work in call cases...06:18
DaSkreechkub-: ;-)06:18
thomasstdin: you know the problem was that my local ip changes for some reason sometimes...so my port forwarding changes....but I have another machine on this network and when it changes theres a problem06:18
LynoureDaSkreech: you can have sshd running and still not get a reply due to creative firewalling06:18
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knubDaSkreech: if you say so06:19
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DaSkreechLynoure: I'm thinking that if you can't figure out how to check if sshd is running you maybe havn't had much creative firewalling experience either06:19
DaSkreechI could be wrong06:19
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DaSkreechbut that'sa what Ima thinking06:19
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LynoureDaSkreech: it's the newbies that usually manage firewall too much06:19
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knubreally crowded channel :P i entered here just while fooling around with konversation06:21
knubdidnt know i would find so much people06:21
knubi'm waiting here kde4 to install. let's see what i get :)06:22
mefisto_following the questions/answers is a good way to learn kubuntu. that's usually why I'm here06:22
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brainwrckhi how may  I fix the installer?06:22
brainwrckapt gives me this error06:22
brainwrckE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:23
Dr_Willis!fix apt06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:23
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:23
Dr_Willisheh.. silly bot..06:23
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knubdo you got adept running?06:24
DaSkreechknub: from source or from the repos?06:24
Dr_WillisI wonder why that factoid had a Funny A with a hat, in front of the   << character.. befor  the command.06:24
DaSkreechmefisto_: throw in a few answers if you can :)06:25
Dr_Williswhats that funny << character also.. heh heh :)06:25
knubthis error seems to be like something is getting the apt busy06:25
mefisto_DaSkreech: when I think I know, I try to06:25
knubDaSkreech: from repo06:25
DaSkreechmefisto_: Sweet :006:25
DaSkreechknub: ooooold :)06:25
knubhhehe does it really work?06:26
avt3kkStdin I have radeon saphire x800 video card and kubuntu cant start up normaly so before ubuntu dapper drake has a safe mode boot see and I could start it up to the desktop06:26
DaSkreechDoes anyone know how network cards get there name?06:26
Dr_Willisyou mean the eth0 eth1 ethwhatever name?06:26
Dr_Willisthe 'device' name i guess. :) is what its called.06:27
DaSkreechhow does it get aliased?06:27
DaSkreechI need to remove some06:27
Dr_WillisI think its the order the modules get loaded.06:27
Dr_Willisor at least it used to be..06:27
Dr_Willisnot sure if theres any other ways to tweak them.06:27
DaSkreechso a module would have to be blacklisted for it not to get a name?06:27
Dr_WillisAges ago some disrtos loaded that Firewire networking thing by default.. that gave everyone a useless eth0, and moved their real network to eth1 :)06:28
Dr_WillisSo blacklisting the modules is 1 way i guess of preventing them from getting loaded/used06:28
stdinavt3kk: there is no "safe mode" like that, never was. you'll have to login to the command line and  do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then change the "ati", "radeon" or "fglrx" driver to "visa" then save (Ctrl-O, Ctrl-X) then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"06:28
Dr_WillisThere may be some other rules files you can use. I havent messed witht he auto detections stuff in years.06:29
mefisto_Dr_Willis: wouldn't blacklisting remove all of them?06:29
knubstdin: vesa?06:29
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Dr_Willisfor that firewire one. that one module is blacklisted. so it never gets loaded. by default.  Not sure about 'all of them' or what his specific case is.06:29
DaSkreechknub: vista shhhhhhhhhhhhhh06:29
stdinhum, vesa06:29
knubstdin: avt3kk: wouldnt a boot with 'apic' solve? -- i dont really know what it does mean, but it worked for me sometime : P06:30
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DaSkreechWell Say I had a card with two ports and didn't want one to show up?06:30
knubDaSkreech: :P heheh06:30
stdinknub: doubtful06:30
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org06:30
Dr_WillisDaSkreech a network card with 2 ports? No idea there.. Only NIC ive ever seen with more then 1 port. was actually a HUB/NIC combo. :)06:30
avt3kkapic boot???06:31
avt3kkwhats that06:31
Dr_Willisapic = advanced power interrupt control (i think)06:31
Dr_Willisor was that apci. ...06:31
Dr_Willisits a setting used to tweak the  power control/stuff on the mobherboards. that some companys  have 'bugs' in. :)  had to use it on a few laptops in the past.06:32
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jagcorvairHow do I mount a DVD DL drive? It won't recognize it.06:36
jagcorvairKaffeine keeps asking for /dev/dvd06:36
jagcorvairI have it at /dev/scd106:36
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jagcorvairAlso, it's an IDE drive, not SCSI06:36
BigDaddyhey, real quick guys. Anyone have a mp3 player that works in K/Ubuntu?06:37
ardchoillejagcorvair: You can try: sudo mount /dev/scd1 /mount_point06:38
BigDaddyI am just curious of the file path, mount pont or whatever it should be06:38
ardchoilleBigDaddy: xmms works fine and you don't need to install codecs for it06:38
BigDaddyardcholle - my bad, I meant like Zen player or an iPod06:39
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DaSkreechBigDaddy: which one are you interested in?06:40
BigDaddyI have a Zen Vision:W. However when I plug it in it appears as a camera on the desktop.06:40
DaSkreechHa ha :-)06:40
DaSkreechProbably using MTP06:40
jhughestrying to get sound working on a Panasonic CF-51 VEr. 7.0406:40
DaSkreech Microsoft transfer protocol06:40
jhugheslol, damn M$06:40
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DaSkreechit's a rewritten PTP which is Kodak's Picture transfer protocol06:41
BigDaddyHey DaSkreech. Good to see you again. I can use Gnomad2 for file transfers. But officially K/Ubuntu and Amarok don't recognize it06:41
DaSkreech not surprised some of the players turn up as a camera06:41
billytwowillywhat's the command to automagically make a deb file from an install?06:41
DaSkreechBigDaddy: hop to #amarok06:41
DaSkreechBigDaddy: i'm sure they would love to have better hardware support06:42
BigDaddyDaSkreech - that makes perect sense! I couldn't understand why it was a camera.06:42
DaSkreechYou can help them or #gphoto2 to get better detection06:42
Jucato!checkinstall | billytwowilly06:42
ubotubillytwowilly: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!06:42
billytwowillysweet, thanks jucato.06:42
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BigDaddyWhen you plugin a usb mp3 player, what is the path in Konquerer, anyone know?06:43
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JucatoBigDaddy: try checking in media:/06:43
DaSkreechBigDaddy: Doh! it's #gphoto not 206:43
jhughesane one care to assist? I am trying to get sound working on a Panasonic CF-51 VEr. 7.0406:44
DaSkreechjhughes: have you read !sound06:44
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:45
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jhughesI didn't see it06:45
jhughesthkx Jucato06:45
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Jucatowb DaSkreech06:45
DaSkreechWhat justhappened?06:46
DaSkreechthat's the second time today I got auto kicked06:46
BigDaddyDeSkreech / Jucato - Thanks for the tips. I will have to persue it tomorrow. This appears to be a bigger undertaking than I am willing to take on tonight06:46
DaSkreechOh thanks Jucato06:46
DaSkreech!tab | BigDaddy06:46
ubotuBigDaddy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:46
BigDaddyI'll be damn... that's pretty handy06:47
DaSkreechBigDaddy: Sure tomorrow just jump into #gphoto or #amarok and ask them what the deal is with your model. It may be an easy thing to get sorted or they may hand you tools to help them get it sorted06:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:47
BigDaddythanks DaSkreech...how did you know I was hand typing your name and not tab completing?06:47
DaSkreechBigDaddy: I guessed :)06:48
Dr_Willisrember tab for the Shell also! :)06:48
Dr_Willis I almost have my tab key wore out on some machines06:48
LordBaconthen you buy crappy keyboards06:48
BigDaddythanks Dr_Willis...lol this is pretty cool.06:48
Jucatomine is still the left shift, ctrl, and alt keys...06:48
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BigDaddyI get free only keyboards06:48
DaSkreechBigDaddy: Ha wait till we show you the really cool stuff06:48
LordBaconkeyboards are worth monty06:49
LordBaconerr money06:49
Dr_WillisThank you LordBacon for the  insightfull comentary....06:49
BigDaddyDaSkreech: I just started IRC when I started Linux06:49
DaSkreechAll hail Python!06:49
BigDaddy5 days now06:49
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jagcorvairI am having DVD drive issues. DMESG | TAIL ihere...06:49
jagcorvair[  774.811330]  sr1: Current: sense key: Hardware Error06:49
jagcorvair[  774.811332]      Additional sense: Logical unit communication CRC error (Ultra-DMA/32)06:49
jagcorvair[  774.811338]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 6406:49
Dr_WillisI got a lot of the old klicky IBM heavy keyboards around here aomewhere also. :)06:49
jagcorvair[  774.894043]  cramfs: wrong magic06:49
DaSkreechBigDaddy: We hold no blame for your imminent addiction. none!!!06:49
jagcorvair[  774.973772]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sr1.06:49
jagcorvair[ 1070.917446]  sr 0:0:1:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x0800000206:49
jagcorvair[ 1070.917451]  sr1: Current: sense key: Hardware Error06:49
jagcorvair[ 1070.917454]      Additional sense: Logical unit communication CRC error (Ultra-DMA/32)06:49
jagcorvair[ 1070.917461]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 6406:49
jagcorvair[ 1070.919956]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr1, iso_blknum=16, block=1606:49
jagcorvairSorry, it was supposed to paste the link, not the text06:50
Jucatojagcorvair: didn't you just see the instructions *not* to paste in here?!?!06:50
BigDaddylol, I actually blame bash.org06:50
hasan2hi all06:50
DaSkreechHi hasan206:50
BigDaddylove reading that rag.06:50
BigDaddyIRC is not as witty IRL tho06:50
hasan2anybody can help on installing html validator for firefox06:50
LordBaconhasan: why not just use the webdeveloper toolbar or firebug to link to the official validator?06:50
Dr_Willishasan2 isent that just an extension?06:50
BigDaddyanyways, I am off to bed. Thanks again for the ideas guys06:50
BigDaddyI love bash man06:51
hasan2Dr_Wills : sent extension to ?06:51
jhughesok aplay -l detected my soundcard06:52
jhughesbut when I got the alsa website06:52
jhughesI hit a dead end06:52
jagcorvairDVD drive issues. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38774/06:53
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Jucatoany DVD gurus there please help ^^^^06:53
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hasan2FATAL ERROR : The dynamic C library  contained in the extension file could not be found.06:53
DaSkreechjagcorvair: Live Cd?06:54
hasan2after installing html validator for firefox...any help06:54
hasan2FATAL ERROR : The dynamic C library  contained in the extension file could not be found.06:54
jagcorvairNo. Store-baught DVD06:54
DaSkreechhasan2: how did you install?06:54
DaSkreechand it has cramfs? fascinating06:54
jagcorvairThe DVD is "ray"06:54
DaSkreechWhat's sr1 ?06:55
jagcorvairNo clue06:55
hasan2DaSkreech : adds-on -> get extensions -> download from marc's cyberhome06:55
hasan2and then restart firefox06:55
hasan2i am using ubuntu06:56
DaSkreechhasan2: What are you using to connect to IRC?06:56
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hasan2IRC client06:57
DaSkreechWell duh :)06:57
prakI have looked at these sites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software and http://www.osalt.com/project) for an open source equivalent of microsoft project06:57
prakbut don't really know what's the good one06:57
prakdoes anyone have any recommendations?06:57
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LordBaconI just saw a new one being released06:57
DaSkreechhasan2: In any case connect to the server irc.mozilla.org and join the room Firefox they would have the best details on recent extensions06:57
fyrmedicAnybody familiar with "Powerpoint" presentations in OpenOffice. Specifically, embedded video, mpg format, within said presentation not playing in the presentation.06:57
DaSkreechprak: basket? :)06:58
DaSkreechprak: Hold on06:58
Jucatoprak: kplato, el-planner, (gnome) planner?06:58
LordBaconprak: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=8023 ?06:58
hasan2let me try in firefox room ...thanks06:58
LordBaconprak: http://openproj.org/ is the real homepage06:58
DaSkreechprak: http://www.utasce.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5823#582306:59
prakLordBacon: i tried openproj06:59
prakbut don't like it that much06:59
jhughesok I know what driver I need to install/enable06:59
LordBaconI just use the MS stuff in a VM06:59
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jhughesbut not sure if I have to edit a conf file or compile?06:59
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ardchoilleIs it possible to keep konq from keeping typed-in history at all?07:00
jhughesmodinfo soundcore does retunr my device07:00
crxyemDoes anyone here use DRDB (aka linux-ha)07:00
LordBaconI think I'll continue watching bionic woman07:00
jhughesI need the [hda intel]  driver07:00
jhugheswhats weird is the sound works via headphone but not the speakers07:01
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DaSkreechprak: there is a link from there to a sub category of open source project .. err ... projects07:01
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praki'll try kplato then07:02
ardchoilleAgent_bob: No need to fill up files with junk I won't use.07:02
Jucatoardchoille: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> History ?07:02
ardchoilleJucato: Tried that, the best I can get is "history expires after 1 day"07:03
Agent_bobardchoille is disk space that tight?07:03
ardchoilleJucato: I want no history at all07:03
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Jucatoardchoille: how about settings "Maximum number of URLs" to 0?07:03
ardchoilleAgent_bob: Why keep things I'll never use regardless of disk space?07:03
Jucatooh you just never knoooow :)07:03
Agent_bobhehhe    :)07:04
ardchoilleJucato: Tried that just now, still keeps typed in history after restarting konq07:04
Jucatodon't you have to clear the history first?07:05
ardchoilleDid that, restarted, typed in, restarted, still keeps07:05
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Jucatoardchoille: try either 1) clearing the cache or 2) clearing the cache and disabling it?07:06
LordBacon!$ is my friend07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is my friend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:07
Agent_bobardchoille also there "was" the convieniant little "del hist" button right beside the address bar....07:08
ardchoilleJucato: Seems there is no way fo doing it.. it always keeps at least one url07:08
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Agent_bobardchoille try setting to   -107:08
Agent_bob0 may mean infinite07:09
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Jucatowhich some new users might think about Konqi07:09
ardchoilleAgent_bob: Thought about that, no way to enter -107:10
LordBaconok, I'm confused now07:10
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JucatoLordBacon: about?07:11
LordBacon/dev/sda1 is type 83, formatted as ext2, and fsck's fine, I can mount it and see all my kernels and grub dir as well as the config required for boot07:11
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Jucatobut.. ?07:11
ardchoilleI wonder what  "chmod a-w .kde/share/config/konq_history"   would do07:11
LordBaconbut when I run grub> root (hd0,1) and then setup (hd0), it says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition07:11
Agent_bobsda1 != hd0,107:12
LordBaconit's SATA07:12
Agent_bobsda1 = (hd0,0)07:12
JucatoAgent_bob is (thankfully) right07:12
Jucatodunno if GRUB knows sd007:13
Agent_bob /;07:13
LordBaconwell, I'm cooking some bacon right now to hand out if it works07:13
ardchoilleJucato: That fixed it07:13
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hitmanWillyJucato: it doesn't, hd for grub means any hd, sata or otherwise...references bios settings07:14
Jucatoardchoille: what did?07:14
ardchoilleJucato:   chmod a-w .kde/share/config/konq_history07:14
Agent_bobhitmanWilly no.   referancing /boot/grub/devices07:14
Jucatophooey :P07:14
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hitmanWillyAgent_bob: stage 2 anyway07:15
ardchoilleJucato: I wonder if perhaps "ln -s /dev/null .kde/share/config/konq_history" is a better option07:15
Agent_bobardchoille of course.07:15
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Agent_bobi have several of those    /etc/adjtime /etc/localtime /etc/zoneinfo     for example are all /dev/null links07:17
flakemmmm bacon07:17
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avt3kkcan you guys help me?07:18
avt3kkI have ubuntu ultimate07:18
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avt3kkI guess it restarts to kubutnu07:18
Agent_bobif we can't, there's no need in asking anyone else.07:18
avt3kkit did serveral times07:18
ardchoilleAgent_bob: I have some too: ~/.macromedia ~/.recently-used07:18
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Agent_bobardchoille heh  yeah.07:19
flakeit crashes and restarts?07:19
avt3kkcant start x1107:19
avt3kkits the video card driver07:19
avt3kkI have radeon saphire x800 gto07:20
Agent_bobuse vesa   until you get the driver fix'd07:20
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avt3kkhow can I use vesa just dont install any drivers from ubuntu ultimate07:21
avt3kkclose envy?07:21
avt3kkwill it install safe mode as is?07:21
avt3kkI hope07:21
Agent_bobedit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf    change the  Driver  "Nvidia"    to    Driver  "vesa"  that will let you    startx      it won't fix your problem.  it will only make the gui accessable07:23
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!07:23
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DaSkreechAgent_bob: why is he installing nvidia drivers for a Radeon?07:23
Agent_bobDaSkreech beets me.07:24
Agent_bobi just got here.07:24
DaSkreechYou would almost think that would crash the machine07:24
Agent_bobnah   just X07:24
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: probably would just fail to load the module07:25
avt3kkty DaSkreech :D07:25
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: and fall back to what?07:25
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: which would not allow X to start07:25
DaSkreechah there we go07:25
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: cmd line :)07:25
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DaSkreechYeah nice and dependable07:26
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: but wouldn't crash the whole system, tho07:26
Agent_bob"just works"  :)))07:26
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: very good point07:26
hitmanWillyunless of course you're using a framebuffer...lol07:27
avt3kkanyone know about how to setup ubuntu ultimate with some type of safe mode07:27
Agent_bob!dvd > Agent_bob07:27
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what_ifelo' channel !07:27
hitmanWillybtw, what is "Ubuntu Ultimate"?07:27
avt3kkubuntu doesnt support it07:28
avt3kkim fked07:28
ardchoillehitmanWilly: it isn't supported07:28
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flakethink UU is for gamers07:28
DaSkreechavt3kk: can you get to a VT ?07:28
avt3kka what07:28
hitmanWillyok, so ubuntu with cedega...07:28
avt3kkits the live cd07:28
avt3kkim in the live dvd07:28
avt3kkcant install it07:29
DaSkreechavt3kk: when you boot your machine X crashes?07:29
Agent_bobvt == tty == console07:29
DaSkreechwhere are you?07:29
avt3kklive dvd07:29
DaSkreechor after install it crashes ?07:29
avt3kkto sata hd07:29
avt3kkafter install reboot07:29
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avt3kkdoes it even see sata I dunno07:30
DaSkreechwhat does it see?07:30
Agent_bobof course it does.07:30
avt3kkgrey screen07:30
avt3kkalmost black07:30
hitmanWillyavt3kk: ok, can you get to a cmd line? ie ctrl-alt-f1?07:30
Agent_bobblack screen of failed vidio drivers07:31
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DaSkreechavt3kk: can you mount your drive?07:31
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prakis it possible to type in "sudo remove -l /media/usbdrivename/" in terminal to unmount the usb drive?07:32
Agent_boband if you didn't use fbcon it wouldn't affect the console   but seeing that *buntu insists on using fbcon    a lot of the black screen problems require some tricky boot options...07:32
Agent_bobParkotron umount07:33
avt3kkwhen it starts the dvd theres an option to install with driver07:33
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avt3kkI have abit cd07:33
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avt3kkshould I try that07:33
mefisto_prak: what's the -l for?07:34
praklazy unmount, mefisto?07:34
avt3kkthis is driving me nuts07:34
prakor would "sudo remove /dev/usbdrive" do?07:34
Agent_boband what does "remove" do mefisto_ for that matter...  :)07:34
Agent_bobprak does your system have a "remove" command ?07:35
avt3kkis there a type of safe graphics type thing for me to use on the install?07:35
prakAgent_bob, i'm not sure07:35
mefisto_prak: the command is umount, not remove. Agent_bob: just wondering how that whole line came into "existence"07:35
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praki think remove is for deleting files07:35
Agent_bobprak ?07:36
avt3kkyou guys are the only ones that have been helping me cool :D ty07:36
DaSkreechavt3kk: you have an install already?07:36
avt3kkwell it wont boot07:36
prakstill not too familiar with bash script commands yet07:36
avt3kkit looks like it loads it all'07:36
avt3kkbut the screen goes black07:36
Agent_bobGNU commands07:36
DaSkreechavt3kk: make a directory and mount it07:36
prak"remove" coming from the pop-up "remove drive safely"07:36
avt3kki cant do that07:37
Agent_bobGNU = Gnu is Not Unix07:37
avt3kkwhy you think I got ubuntu because its easy lol07:37
DaSkreechavt3kk: ha ha :-)07:37
DaSkreechavt3kk: ok we will walk you through some stuff07:37
DaSkreechthis is kubuntu or ubuntu?07:37
Agent_bobavt3kk    GNU-Linux   see   gnu.org07:37
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avt3kkubuntu ultimate07:37
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avt3kkit reboots to kubuntu07:37
avt3kkit doo07:37
DaSkreechok open gnome-terminal07:37
mefisto_prak: if you want to learn shell commands, http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php is an easy-to-read introduction07:38
Agent_bob!cli | prak07:38
ubotuprak: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:38
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DaSkreechtype mkdir install07:38
DaSkreechthen sudo mount /dev/hd and press tab twice07:38
prakmefisto_, thanks for the link07:39
Agent_bobDaSkreech sata  may need  sd??07:39
praki'll definitely bookmark it for reference07:39
avt3kkit says theres already a path07:39
LordBaconthe cli is my friend07:40
avt3kkmkdir is /bin/mkdir07:40
avt3kkinstall is /usr/bin/install07:40
DaSkreechavt3kk: Sorry? at which point?07:40
LordBaconoff-by-one errors are not :/07:40
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avt3kktype mkdriinstall07:40
avt3kkit showed that right after07:40
Agent_bobLordBacon ?07:40
DaSkreechmkdir<space> install07:40
LordBaconAgent_bob: my entire boot problem after resizing/moving my partitions was because I had sda1 as (hd0,1)07:41
Agent_bobDaSkreech incase you didn't notice   he typed type07:41
avt3kkfile exsists07:41
sunilonlndoes anyone know why the kde screensaver won't cover the entire screen while running compiz fusion?07:41
LordBaconsunilonln: I had that problem at the office too07:41
Agent_bobLordBacon yeah   grub'ism   and it's nomenclature07:41
DaSkreechavt3kk: you have a directory named install already?07:41
ardchoillesunilonln: /join #ubuntu-effects07:41
LordBaconanyway, virtualbox, or vmware to have a vista vm?07:42
avt3kkya it posted the stuff I posted07:42
avt3kkright after07:42
avt3kkI put a space07:42
sunilonlnthanks ardchoille07:42
DaSkreechavt3kk: did you type the word type? :)07:42
DaSkreechso you have a dir named install07:42
DaSkreechtype sudo mount /dev/hd and press tab twice07:43
Agent_bobtty2 [greg$compaq:~]  type mkdir install07:43
Agent_bobmkdir is /bin/mkdir07:43
Agent_bobinstall is /usr/bin/install07:43
Agent_bobtty2 [greg$compaq:~] 07:43
DaSkreechtell me if it beeps or gives you a list07:43
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avt3kkbeep beep lol'07:43
avt3kkthats what it did07:43
LordBaconis there any product that can do what fusion does for mac, but for linux?07:44
Agent_bobi just happened to notice the text he posted and identified it...07:44
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DaSkreechavt3kk: ok take off the hd and put sd and press tab twice07:44
ubuntujoecould I ask a favor of someone in here?07:44
avt3kkit changed it to sda07:45
ubuntujoeI'm in windows right now but I need a file uncompressed07:45
Agent_bobubuntujoe sure.   whether or not it will happen.... ?07:45
ubuntujoebut I'm in windows07:45
ubuntujoethe most recent file there.07:45
Agent_bobubuntujoe i'll look.  how big is it ?07:45
DaSkreechavt3kk: good did you  get a list of numbers after the sda07:45
avt3kkda is that right07:46
DaSkreechlike sda1 sda2 sda 5 ?07:46
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avt3kkubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /07:46
avt3kk/   tmp/07:46
Agent_bobubuntujoe which file ?07:46
LordBaconubuntujoe: alzip, winzip, 7zip all do tar and bz207:46
DaSkreechubuntujoe: huh? a file uncompressed?07:46
DaSkreechget 7-zip07:46
DaSkreechor winrar07:46
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ubuntujoeit just gives me an out file.07:47
DaSkreechavt3kk: interesting07:47
Agent_bobultimate zip   can do it too07:47
mefisto_ubuntujoe: 7-zip is free, and a small download, and uncompresses fast07:47
DaSkreechAgent_bob: can you step in here? :)07:47
ubuntujoeI know.07:47
avt3kkthis is gay07:47
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DaSkreechavt3kk: when you boot up how far does it get?07:47
avt3kkI should put my hd clone back07:47
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ubuntujoeI just don't under stand why it just gives me a solid file.07:48
avt3kklooks like it loads it all but screen goes black07:48
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DaSkreechavt3kk: You get a grub menu?07:48
avt3kkeror loading x1107:48
avt3kkonly see term07:48
dsmith_anyone here use a panasonic cf-51?07:48
DaSkreechDo you get a screen with a progrss bar?07:49
DaSkreechavt3kk: or a screen with a lot of writing going up saying OK Ok OK OK ?07:49
avt3kko wait07:49
Agent_bobdsmith_ checking to see if the hardware is supported, or have a specific issue ?07:49
avt3kkok ya07:49
avt3kkI see that07:49
avt3kkalot of ok07:49
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DaSkreechright that's interesting07:49
dsmith_Agent_bob: I need to cmd line the drives and install them07:50
Agent_bobyou mean                                  [ ok ] 07:50
DaSkreechavt3kk: do you have raid?07:50
avt3kkradeon saphire x800 gto vivdo card07:50
dsmith_*drivers, I meant07:50
avt3kkno raid07:50
usHi. Can someone here tell me how I can run the restricted driver manager?07:50
dsmith_I am partly there07:50
DaSkreechAgent_bob: he has no partitions07:50
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dsmith_gcc error07:50
DaSkreechat least as far as I can tell07:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:50
avt3kkeven after its all setup it never works07:50
DaSkreechavt3kk: yeah cause it seems for some reason that you get corrupted drivers07:51
avt3kkI have like 8 minutes before I sleep guys07:51
Agent_bobDaSkreech ?          avt3kk enter this string and pastebin the output.        cat /proc/partitions07:51
Agent_bobdsmith_ you have    build-essential    installed ?07:51
DaSkreechAgent_bob: hes on a live Cd07:51
avt3kk8     0  244140625 sda07:51
avt3kk   7     0    2261688 loop007:51
dsmith_one min07:52
avt3kkI deleted it all I think07:52
dsmith_this is a new lappy07:52
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moj0risingDaSkreech: was that !restricted for me?07:52
Agent_bobavt3kk yeah   you have no partitions.07:52
dsmith_plg name for build essentials?07:52
dsmith_PKG name07:52
DaSkreechmoj0rising: if it helps then yes :)07:52
avt3kkwell man when it was all setup it didnt work07:52
moj0risingIt didn't :(07:52
DaSkreechAgent_bob: but he boots from that drive07:52
avt3kkso I deleted it all07:53
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Agent_bobDaSkreech probably not anymore07:53
DaSkreechavt3kk: ohhhhhhh you deleted it all :)07:53
moj0risingIs there a way I can find how to run the driver manager?07:53
avt3kkI tryed installing like 4 times took all night07:53
DaSkreechavt3kk: Duuuuh07:53
avt3kkeven when its there07:53
DaSkreechavt3kk: did you try a normal kubuntu cd ?07:53
avt3kkit still messed up07:53
Agent_bobdsmith_ you have    build-essential    installed ?07:53
moj0risingI've searched the forums and I'm sure it's buried somewhere but I can't find it.07:53
avt3kkdidnt work either07:53
Agent_bobpackage name               ^07:53
dsmith_Agent_bob: doesn't appear so07:53
avt3kksame cr@py grey screen07:53
Agent_bob!b-e | dsmith_07:54
ubotudsmith_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:54
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DaSkreechavt3kk: oh you have one?07:54
dsmith_yea its working07:54
avt3kkwhat about this07:54
avt3kkedit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf    change the  Driver  "Nvidia"    to    Driver  "vesa"  that will let you    startx      it won't fix your problem.  it will only make the gui accessable07:54
avt3kkI have 107:54
avt3kkthrew it out07:54
avt3kkafter grey screen07:54
dsmith_thx agent bob07:54
khaije1dsmith_: also read up on the checkinstall package, can't say enough good about it07:55
dsmith_I knew I was forgetting somehting07:55
DaSkreechavt3kk: Right thats' what I was trying to get you to do but you erased your drive07:55
avt3kko sry07:55
DaSkreechavt3kk: do an install again and we can help you get it to at least boot07:55
avt3kkI will be in here thursday07:55
avt3kksleepin soon07:55
avt3kkdad going to get on my butt07:56
Agent_bobavt3kk or ATI  or what ever     to vesa     but  for the record,   the xorg.conf you are using in the live CD, if you install then just copy that xorg.conf over it will work on the hd just like it does on the live CD07:56
dettoaltrimentiI'm using KTorrent and there are some torrents that if I try to remove them from the list it makes ktorrent crash- is there any way I can delete these from somewhere else?07:57
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avt3kkprinting that07:57
Agent_bobDaSkreech i think his propritary drive and the  fbcon were hosing the vidio output.   it was booting.  jsut headless.07:57
DaSkreechhis what drive?07:58
Agent_bobi have seen that  grey screen of bewilderment.   i can change tty's but still can't see anything.     so i loged in and typed eject  and the drive stuck it's tongue out at me...   therefore i knew it was just the ati+fbcon screwing the vidio07:59
Agent_bobDaSkreech driver   sorry   typo08:00
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DaSkreechah right08:00
avt3kkbob and daskreech you guys are great :D08:00
avt3kkI printed the help you gave me08:00
Agent_bobavt3kk hold one sec08:01
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avt3kkubuntu ultimate has alot alot of stuff inside08:02
Agent_bobavt3kk this is a close aproximation that you might enter for a help with trubble shooting that.   after the install and before you reboot. >>>  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /target/root/08:02
Agent_bobthat way you will have a "known to work"  config file in your root's home   that root will use when you type  startx   as root.   if needed08:03
Agent_boband we all know that running X as root is a bad idea.08:03
Agent_bobbut it's a worse idea to have a system that you can't use.08:03
avt3kkso type this and it will fix it?08:04
Agent_bobi didn't say it will fix it.   i said you will have a "known good" config file.   we can use that in helping you fix it.08:04
avt3kkI had some errors when it started up x1108:04
DaSkreechavt3kk: No but it's a good place to start for a workable computer08:04
avt3kkit cant start this and that because I started safe mode08:05
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avt3kkgoodnight guys see you after I finish work thursday today08:05
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Agent_boblets see if we can get you crawling before we start the 440 sprint.08:06
avt3kknew york time here08:06
avt3kkorpbly back 7pm or 63008:06
avt3kkk cya ty08:06
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Agent_boband DaSkreech good job on that one.   kept him calm and willing, probably better than i would have.08:07
Agent_bobthat's why i didn't "jump in"  when you asked.   that and busy here.08:08
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DaSkreechAgent_bob: yeah as long as you don't ask Jucato or nixternal I have a calming effect :)08:10
Agent_bobi think being busy "and some what frustrated" makes me less patient with other thing.08:11
Agent_bobyeah but what does Jucato know... except networking...  :)08:12
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DaSkreechha ha ha08:13
Agent_bobam i leaving ?08:13
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Agent_bobhere's your hat, here's your coat, what's your hurry....  :)08:13
DaSkreechWell that does give him power over ip addresses and domain names :)08:13
Agent_bobhe really does know more than he likes to admit.  but that's been a standing joke about him being a network guru   for years now.08:14
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Jucatoum.. still talking about moi?08:17
Jucatobtw, I'm not standing08:17
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Jucatoer.. study08:18
Agent_bob< !enter08:18
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Agent_bobnot really.   not unless !enter was a file.08:18
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Agent_bobeeek  i nearly deleted  ~/.true  then happened to think "that's my login shell"    </blinks>08:20
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frbhow do I enable numlock on boot in ubuntu? my bios has it enabled already08:24
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Agent_bobfrb package "numlock"08:24
Jucatoif you don't need it at login, you can set KDE to turn it on *after* logging in08:24
Agent_bobor do you mean when kde starts ?08:24
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Agent_bobyeah what Jucato said   ^08:25
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frbI don't need it when I login, but it's useful when I actually do stuff08:25
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Agent_bobkde then08:25
WaltzingAlongkde now08:26
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intelikeykde fore08:26
JucatoI'm seeing doubles...08:26
kaminix2What does "Load average" mean? It's quite common when measuring performance thingies, and consist of three numbers. For example: 4.63   5.81   4.75 (my current ^^)08:26
frbit usually means how many processes are having to wait for their CPU time08:27
Jucatofrb: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard. the setting is there08:27
frbit's a lot more complicated than that, but I don't really know well08:27
Agent_bobhow many are logged in...   tty24 [root#compaq:~]  uptime08:27
Agent_bob 20:31:01 up  1:31,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0008:27
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DaSkreechintelikey: :-) the man I sorely wanted to bother08:28
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Agent_boblet me guess,    it's me.08:28
kaminix2Agent_bob: So now I have three users logged in?08:28
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Agent_bobkaminix2 idk.   you tell me.08:28
Agent_bobdo i have none ?08:29
kaminix2Agent_bob: Well it says 0 users in yours.08:29
DaSkreechintelikey: how do I reassign interface name?08:29
kaminix2Hmm... mine says 1 user logged in.08:29
Agent_bobDaSkreech ummm where ?08:30
intelikeyDaSkreech ^ that's me.08:30
kaminix2"and the system load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes." <--- That's a start.08:30
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DaSkreechha ha joker08:30
DaSkreechAgent_bob: My network interfaces08:30
DaSkreech one of them is not getting a alias08:31
DaSkreechand one of the them has two ports  one of which was kissed by lightning so I'd prefer if that 1/2 of the network card gets no name08:31
Agent_bobok.  try in /etc/hostname08:32
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Agent_boband do remember that i'm hardly qualified to answer network questions.08:33
DaSkreechthat sets the name of the computer08:33
DaSkreechYeah but you seem to dabble a lot into how the computer starts up08:33
DaSkreechI just wanted to know how the network interfaces got assigned names08:34
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DaSkreechcause there is no /dev/eth08:34
DaSkreechThey must be getting assigned from somewhere08:34
stdinafaik, the kernel sets the name from the info the bios gives08:35
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WaltzingAlongDaSkreech: i think you can assign names (eth1 and such) to them based on MAC08:35
WaltzingAlongDaSkreech: in that case you may want /etc/iftab08:35
intelikeyDaSkreech and stdin i may not be understanding the Q08:36
DaSkreechstdin: yeah one of them isn't getting a name at all so I need to figure out how to assign a name to it08:36
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stdinwell, if you know the MAC address WaltzingAlong's advice may help08:36
WaltzingAlongiftab contains the interface table.      man iftab08:36
intelikeyDaSkreech do you mean the device has no name as in  eth?08:37
DaSkreechI need to assign it one08:37
DaSkreechit's there in lspci08:37
intelikeyoh  that normally means you need to "modprobe the driver"08:37
DaSkreechand that auto gives it a name?08:37
intelikeyor wait.08:37
frbnow if only firefox would let me middle-click to and scroll with the pointer08:37
intelikeywhere are you looking for the device ?08:37
DaSkreechsudo ifconfig -a08:38
intelikeyDaSkreech yes.08:38
DaSkreechgreat. now can I take away the name of a device?08:38
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intelikeynormally  albeit maybe not always.  if you insert the module needed then the device will "appear"08:39
intelikeylinux is good that way :)08:39
eMaX_hi all08:39
intelikeyDaSkreech reverse the proccess of giving it a name generally works.08:39
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intelikeymodprobe -r "it's driver"08:40
DaSkreechintelikey: here is the kicker. It's a chipset with two ports08:40
DaSkreech I need one of them the other is dead08:40
eMaX_how can I get rid of "Device Discovery Info" messages I get whenever a bluetooth device is detected? I don't want to switch off bt altogether as I am using it myself. I just am annoyed by the sometimes 10,000,000 konqueror windows opening when I am on a train station.08:40
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intelikeythen you may need module parameters.   /etc/module.conf08:40
intelikeyerr with s maybe.08:41
mefisto_how do I change the name of my machine, as in the "dhcppc0" in mefisto@dhcppc008:41
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WaltzingAlongmefisto_: /etc/hostname08:42
DaSkreechor hostname command if you just want to play with it08:42
intelikeymefisto_ do you want to actually change the ip or just the prompt ?08:42
mefisto_intelikey: just the prompt08:42
DaSkreech /etc/hostname takes effect on boot the hostname command takes effect now08:42
DaSkreechOr better08:43
intelikeyexport PS1='your new pormpt'08:43
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab08:43
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WaltzingAlongbetter -thanks08:43
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intelikeyi asked because some don't like the looks of a ubuntu bash prompt at all.08:44
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intelikeyit's easily configurable.08:45
intelikeyand all in user space.08:45
DaSkreechWell isn't all of bash in userspace08:45
frblast I checked08:45
DaSkreechCome to think of it isn't that kinda the point of a shell :)08:45
Agent_bobDaSkreech nope08:45
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frbI wouldn't be surprised if someone put it in the kernel08:45
Agent_bobJucato my PS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '08:46
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Agent_bobDaSkreech some things in bash are not adjustable for the user.   unset UID   or  export UID=3       and see what happens08:47
JucatoAgent_bob: huh?08:47
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Agent_bob" Jucato/#kubuntu configures his prompt to look like intelikey"  <<<>>> <Agent_bob> Jucato my PS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '08:47
flakeI just discovered the Add/Remove programs in the menu actually function as both ADD and Remove :)08:48
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Agent_bobhehhe flake  :)08:48
JucatoAgent_bob: I said "look like intelikey" not "look like intelikey's "08:48
Jucatounless you really look like that :P08:48
frbI want to archive my DVDs on my HD to reduce noise from the system during playback, what can I use to do copy the movies to the HD?08:53
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se7en^Of^9somebody know how to get the brother 115c working08:54
intelikeyfrb could dd the disk to an image file i guess08:54
Jucatothe borg doesn't know? O.o08:55
frbintelikey: can I still play it with kaffeine that way?08:55
WaltzingAlongfrb: dd, dvdbackup, cp, and so on08:55
Jucato!printers | se7en^Of^908:55
ubotuse7en^Of^9: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:55
Jucatowe are th3 b0rg!08:55
intelikeyassemalate it se7en^Of^908:55
WaltzingAlongfrb: yes with the iso of the dvd you should still be able to play that. either you could mount it as a drive or open it directly, for example with vlc08:56
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intelikeyactually se7en^Of^9 brother printers are quite a sore spot for me.  i tried for a weak to get one working correctly, and finally got an hp.08:57
intelikeyJucato you can't you didn't misspell it correctly to affect me...08:57
Jucatoyou probably need another week to work on it, or maybe you were too weak?08:57
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intelikeyues more A's  :)08:58
intelikeyuse even    gosh...08:58
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frbdvdbackup isn't even working :/08:59
intelikeyi did get it to print ok  but never did get the scanner working.08:59
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WaltzingAlongfrb: had you tried dd? dd if=/dev/dvdrom of=mymovie.iso         then later              vlc mymovie.iso09:00
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frbWaltzingAlong: yeah, the dd errors out pretty quickly saying that there is a bad sector09:00
intelikeyfrb   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/mountpoint/image-dir/filename.iso09:00
intelikeyooops WaltzingAlong beet me to it.09:00
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intelikeyah propritary copy protection.   don't you love  DRM  and all it stands for.09:01
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frbeven trying to play it with kaffiene+xine stops because it says I don't have "DVD Navigator"09:02
frb(haven't googled that one yet)09:02
JucatoDVD Navigator?09:02
DaSkreechJucato: watch star trek?09:03
WaltzingAlongintelikey: darn dvorak anyway09:03
JucatoDaSkreech: a bit. not a fanatic09:03
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frbok, maybe that dvd is too scratched09:08
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snowdonkeyHey.  I'm trying to install a package that needs me to explicitly say where lua headers are.  How can I find out where they are?09:16
snowdonkeyI've already installed liblua5.1-0-dev09:17
DaSkreechsnowdonkey: You can open adept look for the package click on details then installed files09:17
snowdonkeyDaSkreech: wow, yea I see them now.  Thx.09:18
DaSkreechSure wish I could take a look at that pre install09:18
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boubbini changed some settings in kmix and no i cant hear any sounds, amarok/kaffeine freesez when trying to play anything, how to restore defaukt settings to kmix(alsa) or fix this ?09:19
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DaSkreechYou could purge kmix and reinstall09:22
mefisto_what settings? from the menu? or something in the mixer itself?09:23
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boubbinmefisto_ i opened the kmix mixer window09:25
boubbinand changed almost every setting there are available, i think it broked somehow when i chnaged the "multritrack internal clock" -type of settings there09:26
boubbinDaSkreech apt-get remove kmix ?09:26
DaSkreechThat would keep the settings09:26
boubbinhow to restore the defaults ?09:27
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boubbinDaSkreech how do you mean purge ?09:29
boubbini have fresh backup for /etc/ would it fix it if i return the copy ?09:30
DaSkreechapt-get remove kmix --purge09:30
boubbinapt also wants to remove kde* kdemultimedia* kmix* kubuntu-desktop*09:30
boubbinis it ok ?09:30
mefisto_wouldn't deleting kmixrc do it?09:31
boubbinwhere is that ?09:31
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JucatoDaSkreech: that would still keep his user modified settings09:31
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DaSkreechOh Sorry I missed what he had changed09:32
emilsedghkde, kdemultimedia and kubuntu-desktop are all metapackages, there is no problem when theyre going to be removed09:32
DaSkreechemilsedgh: New solution :)09:32
Jucatoexcept that what he'll remove won't solve it09:32
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boubbinok, so do you have other solutions for it ? :)09:32
DaSkreechremove kmixrc09:33
mefisto_boubbin: it's at ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc09:33
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boubbinthen the system will create a new one when kde is started ?09:34
kaminix2When playing vobs in kaffeine it turns all blue. mplayer works fine, just kaffeine. How do I fix this without rebooting?09:34
boubbinso i need to reboot the x ?09:34
Jucatoyou just need to logout09:34
Jucatoor actually just restart kmix09:34
mefisto_Jucato: that's what I would have guessed :)09:35
boubbinJucato didnt change anything, the settings are still there :P09:36
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Jucatodid you close kmix before removing kmixrc?09:37
boubbinnope :P09:37
boubbinill try that09:37
mefisto_there's also kmixctrlrc. would that maybe hold those changed settings?09:38
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boubbinwtf i remove kmix* and it still keeps the settings :)09:40
jimmacdonaldwho jimmacdonald09:40
jimmacdonaldFSCK! LOL09:40
boubbinls: /home/boubbin/.kde/share/config/kmix*: No such file or directory09:40
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Jucatoit just might have modified some other setting outside of kmix...09:41
boubbini can access the very same settings with alsa-mixer command09:42
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boubbinso they must be located in alsas config files somewhere09:42
mefisto_... /usr/share/apps/kmix/kmixui.rc maybe?09:44
Jucatounless he ran kmix w/ root privs, that wouldn't have been changed09:45
Jucatohe did say that it was working until he did something09:45
mefisto_there's /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kmixrc would copying that one back fix it?09:46
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boubbini dont think its ran by root..09:46
Jucatoum nope09:46
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boubbinwell when i renamed alsa.conf from /usr/share/alsa/ it did change settings in kmix, they were very fucked up, only one "volume setting bar"09:47
stdin!ohmy | boubbin09:48
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ubotuboubbin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.09:48
boubbinsorry :/09:48
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boubbinyeah everything just freezes, flash, mp3, avi..09:50
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mefisto_wait, if boubbin changed switches that affect the soundcard, eg souncard clock, it will probably stay that way until something changes it. like a reboot.09:52
boubbini rebooted already09:53
boubbinis it possible to reinstall the soundcard somehow ?09:54
mefisto_boubbin: rebooted after you deleted kmixrc?09:54
mefisto_its worth a try09:55
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boubbinok no theres nothing in: ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*09:55
boubbinshould i remove any other kmixrc 's somewhere ?09:55
boubbinbefore the booting ?09:56
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mefisto_boubbin: all I have under /home/* is kmixrc and kmixctrlrc09:57
boubbinok i reboot now.09:58
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boubbinstill the same :/10:02
boubbinhmm is it possible that i broked my soundcard whilst changing the settings ?10:03
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mefisto_boubbin: have you got kmix running now?10:06
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mefisto_find the clock setting you changed. what is it set to now?10:07
boubbinill take a screenshot for you10:08
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berkesis it possible to disable stylesheets in konqueror?10:10
mefisto_change IEC958 both to pcm out10:10
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mefisto_H/W both to digital mixer10:11
mefisto_and both clock settings to 4410010:11
boubbindone those, deemphasis still at "off"10:12
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mefisto_yes, but it shouldn't matter10:12
boubbinno :/10:16
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mefisto_playing files still crashes them?10:17
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stefan_c69i have this weird problem10:18
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stefan_c69kmail can't connect to my mailserver via a wireless connection, configured with wpa_supplicant10:19
boubbinmefisto_ yeah10:19
boubbinmefisto_ i created new user wit hroot and tryed the sounds with it, kmix doesnt have nay settings within the new users kde session..10:20
stefan_c69when i plug my ethernet cable in, it all works10:20
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mefisto_boubbin: do: lsmod |grep ice17 does anything come up?10:22
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boubbinmefisto_ alot of stuff10:23
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mefisto_snd_ice1712 ?10:23
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mefisto_or snd_ice1724 ?10:23
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boubbinso  its snd_ice171210:25
mefisto_you have the same soundcard as me it seems, but different manufacturer10:25
boubbinterratec ewx 24/9610:26
mefisto_you could try envy24control mixer and abandon kmix altogether. that's what I did10:26
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mefisto_I have m-audio audiophile 24/9610:26
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mefisto_boubbin: install alsa-tools-gui10:28
boubbini did10:29
boubbini doesnt really solve it, i mean using the envy24control10:29
boubbini closed kmix and oopened the envy10:29
mefisto_quit kmix and run envy24control10:29
boubbinbut speaker-test still returns nothing10:30
boubbinand amarok freezes10:30
mefisto_I'm out of suggestions. but the envy24control mixer is much better for controlling your soundcard that kmix10:30
mefisto_boubbin: are you recording music with it?10:31
mefisto_have you tried reconfiguring alsa? (not sure of the command to do it)10:33
boubbinin suse there was alsaconf10:33
boubbinbut i dont know what it is in ubuntu10:33
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mefisto_I think it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa  does anyone know if that's right?10:35
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stefan_c69alsaconf would do the trick10:38
stefan_c69sudo alsaconf10:38
boubbinsudo: alsaconf: command not found10:38
stefan_c69that's weird10:39
mefisto_sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base10:39
stefan_c69apt-get install alsa-tools10:40
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boubbinmefisto_ returns nothing10:40
stefan_c69doesn't work either10:40
boubbinstefan_c69 already installed10:40
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stefan_c69looks like there is no alsaconf in kubuntu10:41
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boubbinyeah :)10:42
mefisto_boubbin: I'm out of ideas. you could try looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 but it's a loooong thread10:43
stefan_c69lame :(10:43
boubbinmaybe i just reinstall the system10:44
flaccidtry windows :p10:44
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mefisto_linux audio sucks10:46
=== Jucato has never had a problem...
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flaccidmany people have never had a problem, many people have10:47
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flaccid50% is still a bad rate..10:47
mefisto_has Jucato used linux to do music production?10:47
flaccidand yes linux audio sux bad. nothing was wrong with OSS10:47
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Jucatoafaik OSS just got an open source license10:47
Jucatowhich should remove that stumbling block10:48
flaccidthere never was an actual block10:48
Jucatoafaik that was10:48
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flaccidwhy is it called open sound system then?10:48
flaccidgplv2 iirc10:49
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JucatoIn July 2007, 4Front Technologies released sources for OSS under CDDL and GPL licenses.10:51
Jucatosame source10:51
flaccidnow i understand what happened. basically this makes linux and unix look like amateurs..10:51
flaccidi can read10:51
flacciddidn't mean to be rude jucy10:51
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flaccidi guess this is all looks hopeful, but it doesn't help in standardising sound for unix systems, its a bit late now10:53
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flaccidthanks for the link too :)10:55
Jucatohuh what10:57
Jucatosorry brb doing something10:57
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boubbinis it possible to get a list of the packages i have _now_ installed in my kubuntu and save it to a file, then reinstall the whole system from a cd and then the system is ready for use install all the files i had installed in the previous installation ?11:06
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flaccidnot that that is a good practice11:07
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flaccidi won't cover all files but you can do for eg. dpkg -l > /tmp/package_list.txt11:08
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boubbinis it ok then to install all the packages there ? :)11:09
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flaccidyes thats fine11:09
flaccidapt/dpkg wont let you install pkgs unless it meets deps etc.11:10
boubbinhmm would be nice to get a one liner with the package names11:10
boubbinsudo dpkg -l | cut -f 3 -d " "11:10
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flaccidwell if you know this cli stuff, i don't know why you ask11:12
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boubbinsudo reboot11:13
boubbinoh :/11:13
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intelikeyuntil apt-get -y dist-upgrade ;do : ;done11:42
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student_sal tanta11:45
intelikeyhoesh don11:45
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flaccidwb jon11:51
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enanokomo stamos11:54
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:54
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intelikeyya know.   i like vlc alright.   but it really tic's me off that they didn't write a man page for it.12:06
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intelikeyeven  vlc --help > vlc-1 ;gzip vlc-1 would beat what they have12:07
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intelikeyactually i just made that exact man page.  format is a little off but it sure beats what  man vlc   did churn out (which was the title and a see vlc --help message heh)12:12
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flaccidnow you can be the man guy for that project !12:15
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hcboxhi all12:59
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spark_hey guys01:01
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GrahamAHello, Windows crashed on a few days ago and since then I've been unable to load any OS from grub on my PC. Linux says "Partition table invalid or corrupt" and Windows says "Invalid or unsupported executable format", what can I do?01:03
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spark_well GrahamA my first idea was to  try fixmbr with the windows boot cd but this only works if grub crashed...01:07
spark_it recovers your windows master boot record01:07
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spark_but i think there is an option on a live cd of ubuntu to restore your partition table(but sorry dunno where)01:07
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GrahamAspark_: I've managed to get some help, the partition table is boned.01:08
GrahamAspark_: fdisk to the rescue.01:09
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spark_aw yipp. thx ;)01:09
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CharlieKaneI've just installed Beryl (not going to try CF till I upgrade my hardware) and my window decorations dissappear01:26
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Lunar_LampHow do I set firefox to be the default browser?01:47
Jucatofor KDE apps: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web browser01:48
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Jucatofor the whole system (including non-KDE apps): sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser01:48
Jucatothen choose Firefox01:48
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Lunar_LampHmm, I did the second one Jucato, but akregator still insists on using konqueror01:52
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JucatoLunar_Lamp: when does it open konqueror?01:56
Lunar_LampJucato: I changed the akregator settings to say open in firefox rather than default kde browser, which works, but leaves me a little unsatisfied.01:56
Jucatoperhaps you just needed to restart Akregator to update it. but if you mean the embedded browser that it uses, that will always be konqueror (or KHTML to be exact)01:57
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Lunar_LampNo, it was the external one Jucato, and had been restarted many a time.02:02
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Jucatohm... did you do the first step as well? in System Settings?02:03
Lunar_LampNope, I did the master one assuming that would do it for everything as I wasn't sure of the path/options required for firefox.02:03
Lunar_LampI assume it's something like /usr/bin/firefox &u02:04
Lunar_LampBut not sure.02:04
Jucatoprobably not. because user settings override system-wide ones. so you'll probably have to set KDE to use Firefox too02:04
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CharlieKaneHas anyone here installed Beryl on Kubuntu ?02:04
Jucatothe %u there means "a single URL/addresss"02:04
Jucato!beryl | CharlieKane02:05
ubotuCharlieKane: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:05
kkathmanCharlieKane:  had Beryl - now have compiz-fusion02:05
CharlieKaneMy system is old and I'd rather stick to whats in the repositories02:05
CharlieKaneMy window decorations dissappear under Beryl02:06
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seishinbyouQuestion: CPU Scaling seems to not be enabled on my Thinkpad T30...how can I enable it (if possible)02:07
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blubbwhen I install thunderbird for example then the german translations are not downloaded too automatically, can I set that somewhere?02:35
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BluesKajHowdy all :)02:36
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emilsedghblubb: mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de :)02:38
blubbemilsedgh: read my question again please!02:39
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emilsedghblubb: I think you cannot set it to download locales automatically, at least i dont know how02:39
blubbemilsedgh: that bad :-p02:40
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emilsedghblubb: why you use thunderbird and not kmail!?02:41
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CharlieKanemmm coffee02:42
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clsocould someone help me installing a printer in the kubuntu...?02:44
clsoi am out of my mind trying02:45
blubbemilsedgh: I will use kmail... :)02:45
Jucato!printer | clso02:45
ubotuclso: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:45
emilsedghblubb: kmail is really feature rich and very well intergrated...02:45
blubbcan networkmanager read a wpa_supplicant configuration file? or how can I use wpa_supplicant without the network manager02:45
clsois a printer that isnt in the list of the assistant02:45
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jermainhi everyone02:47
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jermainhi martins02:47
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keitourgent help required! Amarok (&Xine) refuse to play mp3's.  I was advised to test whether this is a settings issue by creating anew user and trying with that.  I did and mp3's WORK for the new user.  how do I fix this for my usual login???02:48
clsoJucato, what can i do if the printer isnt in the support list... of ubuntu cups?02:48
jermaincan anyone tell me how to add a line to my bashrc?02:49
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jermainkeito; i have the same problem02:49
BluesKajkeito, install libxine-extracodecs02:49
keitoalready got02:49
keitothis is not a codec issue02:50
keitoplaybacl worked02:50
keitoand works under a different user02:50
Jucatoclso: um.. you can try if your printer's driver is listed in System Settings -> Printers -> Add Printer wizard02:50
CharlieKanekeito: libxine1-ffmpeg02:50
keitojermain: no idea how to fix this then?! ;0)02:50
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Jucatoclso: the name of the driver for your printer might not exactly be the same as the name of your printer02:50
jermainkeito; i stepped over to xmms02:50
keitoCharlieKane: surely i don't need to install anything?02:50
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keitojermain: same02:50
keitoCharlieKane: it works for a different user on the same system02:51
jermainkeito; :( its annoying, i think ill try to reinstall later on02:51
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CharlieKanekeito: I installed libxine1-ffmpeg, problem solved02:51
keitothis is user specific02:51
BluesKajffmpeg is for video media02:51
jermainand try again02:51
Jucatokeito: can you check if Amarok is using the Xine engine in Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engines?02:51
keitoXINE IS USED02:51
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Jucatono need to shout02:51
jermainbut can someone tell me how to add a line to .bashrc?02:52
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keitoit's been bugging me for ages and just now someone said to create a new user and try02:52
BluesKajjermain with permissions , copy and paste the line02:52
Jucatojermain: just edit the file and add it at the bottom02:52
keitocan't believe it works for another user02:52
CharlieKanekeito: you might want to double check your settings in Amarok02:52
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jermainit tells me i need root02:52
keitoone night it worked for me then next it didn't, I changed nothing02:52
jermainbut i dunno how to establish root outsie of the console02:52
Jucatojermain: you don't need to edit your own .bashrc file02:53
clsoso. Jucato how can i know if there is a compatible printer for mine...02:53
BluesKajroot =permission=kdesu in kate02:53
Jucatojermain: which file exactly are you using?02:53
Jucatoer.. editing I mean02:53
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jermaini use kate02:53
jermaini want to set path at startup02:53
jermainfor some scripts02:53
Jucatojermain: which file are you editing?02:53
CharlieKanekeito: check your xine settings... tell me what you got02:53
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jermainjucato; .bashrc02:54
Jucatojermain: ~/.bashrc ?02:54
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jermaina pop up comes when i want to save and it says02:55
Jucatojermain: in Konsole can you check: ls -l ~/.bashrc02:55
jermainThe document could not be save, as it was not possible to write to blah blah02:55
Jucatosee who owns the file02:55
Jucatoer... what's the complete error message?02:56
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BluesKajhe needs to open it with the kdesu kate command if he wants to save an edit02:56
jermainafter that it says02:56
keitoCharlieKane: how do I do that?02:56
jermaini have to check if i have write acces02:56
JucatoBluesKaj: possibly... but the fact still remains that he should have permissions for his own bashrc right?02:56
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ardchoilleJucato: The permissions on that file can change to root in some instances if he's been using "sudo (gui app)"02:57
BluesKajJucato, if i rememder correctly i needed to use the runbox with permissions to edit02:57
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CharlieKanekeito: In Amarok click on 'settings' > 'configure amarok' > 'engine' (and tell me what your settings are)02:57
Jucatobu then again, I never run sudo GUI app02:57
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JucatoCharlieKane: you'll only get shouted at too02:57
ardchoilleJucato: Any $HOME file can be affected by that.02:57
jermainjucato: its rw - r - r - l jermain jermain 222702:58
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keitoxine eng, autodetect, stereo 2.002:58
keitoCharlieKane: ^^02:58
jermainis there a way for me to add it from the console?02:58
CharlieKanekeito: ok02:58
CharlieKanekeito: well thats fine like that02:59
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keitoCharlieKane: any other ideas?02:59
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keitoCharlieKane: purge xine & amarok settings perhaps?03:00
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CharlieKanekeito: nah03:01
jermainjucator: is there some way for me to establish root while in a text editor?03:01
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jermain(prefereably kate)03:01
keitoCharlieKane: there's gotta be a way to get the same settings for this user as the new user has?03:01
ardchoillejermain: You can do: kdesu kate filename03:01
CharlieKanekeito: try installing libxine1-ffmpeg (it supports a variety of audio formats as well as video and it a plugin for xine based players)03:01
jermaini will try that thanks03:02
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keitoCharlieKane: already got03:03
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CharlieKanekeito: hmm ok03:03
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jermainardchoille: i did "sudo kdesu kate /root/.bashrc"03:04
ardchoillejermain: No, just "kdesu kate filename", no sudo03:04
jermainbut i got 2 bad device errors and the 3rd says it cant connect to X server03:04
jermainoh, okay03:05
Jucatoum... why /root/.bashrc ?!03:05
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ardchoillejermain: Why are you editing root's bashrc?03:05
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jermainisnt that where im supposed to add the set path line?03:05
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Jucatono... that's not *your* bashrc03:05
JucatoI asked earlier if you were editing ~/.bashrc remember?03:05
ardchoillejermain: you need to edit ~/.bashrc03:05
CharlieKanekeito: got plain ffmpeg installed from the medibuntu repository ?03:05
keitoCharlieKane: it *can't* be package related if it works for another user surely (am I being stupid here or what?).  this *has* to be a config related issue that is related to this specific user (hence purging the xine/amarok settings idea)03:05
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jermaini see03:06
Jucatoardchoille: so it wasn't caused by wrong usage of sudo after all :P03:06
CharlieKanekeito: ok03:06
keitoCharlieKane: I'm confused ! lol03:06
ardchoilleJucato: I see that, was just a guess.03:06
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CharlieKanekeito: yeah I'm not sure whats going on there03:06
keitoCharlieKane: not sure about ffmpeg 2secs03:06
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ardchoillejermain: That's ok, we all had to start somewhere03:07
jermainardchoille, jucato: it works03:07
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jermainthanks guys :)03:07
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Jucatoby the tail?03:08
ardchoillejermain: I've been using *buntu since Warty was released and have never had to edit a file in root's $HOME03:08
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CharlieKanekeito: maybe try starting Amarok from a terminal and see if any useful information comes up03:09
jermainim of the feisty generation =303:09
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CharlieKanekeito: whatcha doo ?03:09
keitoright you guys wanna know how?03:09
jermainkeito, did you solve it?03:09
keitopurge settings lol03:09
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CharlieKanekeito: cool... I'll remember that03:09
keitodelete ~/.xine03:09
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keitodelete ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok03:10
CharlieKaneok... remove xine and amarok03:10
CharlieKanethen reinstall ?03:10
keitodelete ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc03:10
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keitono need to reinstall the settings get replaced on starting amarok03:11
ardchoilleCharlieKane: he's just deleting settings03:11
CharlieKanen00bed myself03:11
djd92ldoes anybody have an idea, why my brighness-control-keys on my laptop doesn't function anymore? (Since i've upgraded to version 2.6.22-12 (Ubuntu Feisty))03:11
jermainill try it later today03:11
keitoI'm ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:11
CharlieKanekeito: brilliant03:11
ScorpKingi got a bigger hd for my laptop. how can i dd the old disk to the new one? if i nfs mount my server and try to dd onto it i get "permission denied" no matter what user i am. looks like dd to nfs don't work.03:11
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keitojermain: give it a go, it should fix it03:12
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CharlieKanekeito: well anyway... ffmpeg is good to keep anyhow ;)03:12
unwisehelp me please, i just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu7.04 and now i cannot find my windows partition in kde03:12
CharlieKaneunwise: got ntfs-3g installed ?03:13
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djd92l@unwise: did you typed in the partition in the /etc/fstab?03:13
unwisenope, all i did was install kubuntu-desktop03:13
unwisehow do i do this fstab?03:14
unwisemy disk works fine under gnome03:14
djd92lunwise: Filesystem?03:14
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CPrompt^hey, this morning Adept said there was an update and when I "fetched" the updates it said that it was a Major upgrade.  I'm running Feisty now so...what is this?03:14
unwiseNTFS for XP03:14
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djd92lok, then you've to install ntfs-3g like CharlieKane already said..03:15
keitounwise: do sudo fdisk -l03:15
ardchoilleCPrompt^: It might have been the recent kernel upgrade and there was a recent kde upgrade03:15
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djd92lthen, you've to check up the fstab (See Ubuntuusers.de)03:15
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ScorpKingsee http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php for ntfs info03:16
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keitosurely ntfs-3g is for *writing* to ntfs... ubuntu should read NTFS out-of-the-box?!03:16
ScorpKingit does03:17
keitoit just needs mounting?03:17
Jucatoshould, but by default only as root03:17
djd92lkeito: yes, you're right... my fault *gg*03:17
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keitoyou can mount without editing fstab?03:17
JucatoI mean if you just sudo mount blahblah03:17
ScorpKingdepends how it's mounted03:17
keitofstab just automounts?!03:17
BluesKajCPrompt^, yes there was a fairly large upgrade this morning , of course depending on your installation03:17
djd92lyes: sudo mount -t ntfs <partition> <destinationPATH>03:17
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ScorpKingadd -o uid=1000,gid=1000 to that03:18
ScorpKingafter ntfs03:18
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keitodjd92l: don't you need to sudo mkdir /media/pathname first?03:18
CPrompt^BluesKaj : i did recently upgrade to the new kernel so that might be it03:18
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djd92lyou can mount it anywhere you like03:18
keitodjd92l: yeah but doesn't it have to exist first or will it create the path in that command?03:19
sputnikrockIs it known that there might be problems with downloading kubuntu by bittorrent?03:19
sputnikrock(new beta)03:19
djd92lit must exist.03:19
unwiseokay, so now u got me all confused ;)03:19
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keitodjd92l: sudo mkdir first then03:19
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BluesKajntfs-config is a handy app..gives read write capabliity to windows partitions03:19
unwisei did install this ntfs-3g hofever03:19
ScorpKingunwise: see the link i posted. it's all on there03:20
unwiseok, thanks :)03:20
keitoBluesKaj: its cool but my ntfs is classed as a dirty drive (bad windows) now I have to forcemount it lol03:20
keitoGG ;0)03:20
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keitowell peeps I'm gonna roll on outta here and play some forza2.  peace love & the rest03:21
ScorpKingc ya03:22
ScorpKinganyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?03:22
ardchoilleScorpKing: you need http://www.sysresccd.org  it has partimag on it and it rocks03:23
clsoi have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx03:23
ardchoilleScorpKing: partimage only copies the used portion of the disk03:24
cicchhep me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:24
ScorpKingardchoille: that will be most of it. lol. thanks03:24
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ardchoilleScorpKing: lol03:24
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unwisewow, i didnt know write support for ntfs was so tricky03:25
unwisei always thought it was already there..03:26
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Jucatohm?? what can be trickier than using ntfs-3g?03:26
BluesKajwhat's the latest kernel for feisty ,  ?03:28
ardchoille2.6.20-16 is what I have and I'm updated03:28
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jermainwell, im going off. Thank for the help everyone!03:29
unwiseScorpKing: i read the link you sent me and mounted my ntfs but i cant seem to enter the folder03:29
ScorpKingunwise: do you have read permission on the folder and did you mount it with -o uid=1000,gid=1000 ?03:30
BluesKajright , thx ardchoille...I see newer one on http://www.kernel.org/...I guess that's for adventurous kernel builders03:30
unwiseSkorpKing: i did mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r03:30
unwiseSkorpKing: i created the folder myself so i should be able to read it shouldnt i03:31
ardchoilleBluesKaj: iirc, when it ends in an odd number, it's a devel release03:31
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ScorpKingunwise: sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows03:32
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unwiseScorpKing: i think i need to unmount first...03:32
ScorpKingunwise: yes and do a  ls -l /mnt/03:32
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ScorpKingunwise: and make sure you can read on that folder03:33
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unwiseScorpKing: yea! now i can access it all, thank you so much!03:33
ScorpKingnp :D03:33
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ghozalahay i cant find my hp printer driver from the list and i tried near models not working what can i do03:35
geniighozala: what is the model?03:36
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ghozalahp laser 102003:36
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unwiseScorpKing: just wondering.. is this sustainable or do i have to mount my ntfs again once i reboot03:37
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geniighozala: That one does Postscript, perhaps set it up for Generic Postscript printer03:37
ScorpKingunwise: if you add it to /etc/fstab it will mount at boot03:38
ScorpKingunwise: how to do that is on that link. here is another one...03:38
ghozaladonnu but it is  a normal usb laserjet03:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:38
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clsoi have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx03:44
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geniighozala: On further investigation, this printer does do Postscript but it is whats called "host-based", relying on the MS Windows GDI system for much of it's work. This may be difficult to find a linux driver for03:46
dwidmannHmm, does anyone know why gruband linux might pick up my hard drives "out of order" (order being the order that they're in in bios)?03:46
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khaijeclso: with epson, your chances are good of finding something, have you tried googling?03:46
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ScorpKingdwidmann: some bios'es have the option to change the hd order. it might be that03:47
dwidmannaggggggh, ever since correcting the time, I can't use sudo :(03:48
khaijeclso: for example http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C40UX03:48
khaijeclso: google is your friend03:49
clsogonna see03:49
clsogoogle is my enemy haha03:49
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clsoi tried install it 30 times i think in 5 months03:49
clsorecommended driver gutenprint hum...03:50
clsoit is in relation with ubuntu?03:50
khaijeclso: it says it is supported perfectly by gutenprint, nothing is easy, but if it is really difficult you're probably doing it wrong03:50
khaijeclso: do you know how to install software from repo?03:51
clsono.............. :$03:51
clsoi remember that appeared an error installing that driver03:52
clsogonna try another one...03:52
geniighozala: A howto for the 1020 on feisty here:  http://benaiah41.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/installing-a-hp-laserjet-1020-on-ubuntu-feisty/03:52
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dwidmannscorpkingk: it seems to tentatively obey that. This gives me a headache.03:53
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khaijeclso: in your start menu there should be an option for add/remove programs, just open that and search for gutenprint, then install, and possibly reboot03:53
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clsooki thx03:54
ardchoillekhaije: Why reboot?03:54
dwidmannScorpKing: IIRC from past horrible experiences, that controls which ones MBR it reads, but in linux it will still have them out of order (hurray for UUI"03:54
khaijeardchoille: in case it loaded an incorrect driver when the correct one wasn't available03:55
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clsono results...03:55
ScorpKingdwidmann: i was about to say maybe the partition table or something in menu.lst :D03:55
khaijeclso: also make sure to get escputil - it's for managing epson printers03:55
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khaijeardchoille: not strickly necessary, of course03:56
tsbHow stable is the new kubuntu beta release? I realize a few things might break, but I wouldn't want to end up with a non-working xorg etc..03:56
dwidmannScorpKing: so long as I eventually get it straight in menu.lst, I don't really care if I actually resolve the problem03:56
khaijeclso: ya i just saw that in a search of available programs in the repo03:57
dwidmannAnyhow, it can wait to later, I need to play video games.03:57
ardchoilletsb: Gutsy will be released on the 18th of next month03:57
clsoinstalling escputil and gutenprint-locales03:57
ScorpKingdwidmann: the UUID seems to be the problem. do it the old way.03:57
tsbardchoille: does that mean it will ship 3.5.8?03:57
khaijeclso: read over the descriptions of the gutenprint packages, you'll probably need more than just locales03:57
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dwidmannScorpKing: nah, not in this case, in fact, the UUID is what saves my fstab from a world of trouble03:58
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AV1611greeting at all!03:58
ardchoilletsb: 3.5.7 I think03:58
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AV1611does anybody know the full size of the 7.10 sofware pool, how 'rich' it is?03:58
ScorpKingdwidmann: instead of using the UUID use /dev/hd*1 in menu.lst and fstab03:59
tsbardchoille: okay well packages will be made avaliable soon enough nonetheless I guess.03:59
Tm_TAV1611: what you mean exactly?03:59
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dwidmannReally, really big, 20k+ packages03:59
AV1611the former was as much as 14-15GB, what about the next one?03:59
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Tm_Tsame pretty much03:59
AV1611what is the size of /ubuntu/pool/03:59
clsokhaije, after that it could appear in the assistant install printer?03:59
dwidmannScorpKing: ah, nevermind it, like I said, FEAR is waiting for me.03:59
AV1611just wonder...03:59
khaijeclso: you might also want cupsys-driver-gutenprint and foomatic-db-gutenprint03:59
ScorpKingdwidmann: lol03:59
clsoyeah im installing that too04:00
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ScorpKingthat will fix it tho04:00
AV1611I mean all the sections: universe, multiverse....04:00
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Tm_Tdwidmann: you should fear me ;)04:00
ScorpKingwe know Tm_T :P how goes?04:00
Tm_Tslowly goes04:00
clsook thanks ill be back in a moment04:01
Tm_Tupgrading to gutsy04:01
khaijeclso: there is a lot that happens automatically, it seems likely this will be all you need, but if it doesn't work right away then hope isn't lost :-)04:01
AV1611what are the noted software addition among those 20K?04:01
ScorpKingi'm not sure if my laptop will handle Gusty04:01
AV1611i meant: additions04:01
BluesKajAV1611, there are numerous repos with various apps , it's pretty difficult pin down a number04:01
AV1611the main one!04:01
Tm_TAV1611: KDE4 betas perhaps?04:01
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AV1611is it alreday there?04:01
ScorpKingyes, universe i think04:02
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BluesKajgutsy & some beta04:02
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dwidmannscorpking: not really, because every time I plug in another drive the sd** is rearranged, never know what I'll get next, but the UUID is consistent.04:03
nerv203Hello! I'm back again, with a minor issue.04:03
AV1611deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse04:03
ScorpKingdwidmann: true04:03
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AV1611that is the pool I wonder of its size about...04:03
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AV1611oops, gutsy04:04
nerv203I keep getting an error message whenever I use the sudo command for anything. It doesn't interrupt the Sudo command, and it doesn't seem to have an observable effect on anything else so I'm not too worried.04:04
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AV1611I pasted a line of sources.list04:04
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nerv203But it, basically, says that there are two unregistered devices. Does anyone have the link to that debugging website where I can paste it to?04:04
crazy_busubuntu 7.10 beta release notes mention compiz by default.  Is kubuntu 7.10 missing out on this?04:04
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nerv203Nevermind, I found it :)04:05
ScorpKingnerv203: have a link for that?04:07
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nerv203Oh, if you wanted the site I used it's just http://pastebin.com04:08
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nerv203Can anyone look at that post and tell me what's wrong?04:08
ScorpKingno i thought you had a fix for it. i get that to04:08
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nerv203I am assuming it's just the keyboard or mouse as they are generic Plug and Play things, I never installed drivers for them.04:09
nerv203They work fine, as I said, but I keep getting that error... I haven't added any ther hardware recently, or well, ever.04:09
nerv203I am getting some brand new shiny RAM soon :)04:09
blubbanyone knows how I could increase that timeout of wpa_supplicant: Authentication with 00:18:39:ab:30:96 timed out. ?04:10
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nerv203Well, when I say brand new I mean second hand, and by shiny I mean modest, but it's better than 256 >.>04:10
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clsokhaije, printer installed succesfully04:13
clsoThanks very much04:13
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khaijeclso: cool!04:15
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clsonow im going to see the howtos to build a print server04:18
clsoi think this will be more interesting ^04:19
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khaijecups! | clso04:20
khaijeoops :)04:20
khaije!cups | clso04:21
ubotuclso: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:21
khaijeclso: good place to start ^^04:21
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ScorpKinggood luck tho :)04:22
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ScorpKinghere is the link to fix the "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" we all seem to get - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen04:29
ScorpKingi've seen lots of complains about that. :)04:30
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crazy_bushow do I use @SIG@ on the kubuntu wiki.  it just stays like that if I put it at the end of my message04:33
llutzScorpKing: they learned and commented it out in gutsy :)04:33
ScorpKinghmmm. it's bout time. :)04:34
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devianceI've lost a CD I had, but I still have the case, would it be legal to download the cd again?04:37
devianceJust wondering :P04:37
llutzdeviance: i would say Yes, musicindustry indeed says NEVER04:37
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geniideviance: Technically no04:37
RurouniJonesYOU HAF VOVEITED ZE RIGHT!!?!?!?!!04:37
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RurouniJonesNot go be a good consumer and buy another one, hup hup!04:38
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devianceHmm, well RIAA can screw themselves, Im brittish04:38
RurouniJonesThat is the spirit04:38
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RurouniJonesAlthough the BP..whatever it is called will be knocking on yer door ;)04:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:39
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devianceRurouniJones: Whats BP? Its a pertrol company isnt it?04:40
devianceWhoops sorry Jucato04:40
ScorpKinghi genii!04:40
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devianceI prefer tea04:42
geniideviance: Part of being British I suppose04:42
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ScorpKinggenii: you stole my words. :P04:43
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ScorpKinganyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?04:43
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ScorpKingi can only have one disk in at a time and i don't have a cd-rw in my laptop.04:44
llutzScorpKing: external disk?04:44
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geniiScorpKing: take them both out, get 2 laptop to regular IDe cable adapters. Plug em in and do it that way with desktop04:44
ScorpKingi do have a nfs server tho04:44
ScorpKinggenii: none available in the next few days.04:45
ScorpKingllutz: don't have one04:45
ardchoilleCan you dd over the network?04:45
geniiardchoille: Yes, it's possible04:46
ScorpKingit says i don't have permissions to write, even as root04:46
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ScorpKingwith nfs-mount04:46
ScorpKinggenii: how?04:46
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ScorpKinguhm, brb04:48
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devianceOh an update to the release updater.04:49
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devianceI think they are getting ready for Feisty with all these KDE, KDM, Kernal and so on updates04:49
geniiScorpKing: boot both to livecd, assign static compatible IPs. /etc/exports has dev name not mount point of destination for dd. mount ad dd over from second box04:50
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geniiScorpKing: Also /etc/exports has similar to: maproot=<IP of second box>04:53
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geniiScorpKing: Make sure to umount so they sync04:55
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ScorpKinggenii: thanks, that should work. :D04:57
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geniiscorpking: /etc/exports share is just /dev     not /dev/sdX or so. then when you mount you see on 2nd box all the devnames. so of=/mntpoint/sdX   in the dd on that one04:58
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ScorpKinggenii: i'm still trying to figure out how i'm gonna boot my server from a cd. doesn't have one and only 94MB RAM. maybe one of the old ubuntu disks will do.05:00
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Xerosscan i install kubuntu (7.04) on a HDD where windows is installed on ?05:01
hsystem-xXeross, yes: dual boot05:01
geniiScorpKing: Yes, tricky :) The other box have a cd?05:02
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ScorpKinggenii: one is my laptop and one is a p1 server05:02
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hsystem-xXeross, you need to have 3 partitions, windows partition, / (ext3) , and a swap. The last two are for linux. Then when installing05:03
geniiXeross: The installer helps you do this when you run it. If Windows has all of the hard drive right now you can resize that part and put Kubuntu on the freed up space, and a small partition for swap05:03
Xerossbut does the installer alter the partitions?05:04
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geniiXeross: It will resize them but not alter what is on there05:04
hsystem-xthe installer will modify the windows partition if you need to resize it.05:04
Xerossi have 2 partitions in windows05:04
hsystem-xonly alter the size.05:05
Xerossdownloading the dvd now05:05
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Xerossand another question, will my sweex wireless usb stick work with it05:05
hsystem-xif you want to be sure, just boot from livecd, with the usb stick plugged.05:06
geniiXeross: If you have NTFS filesystems on there, make sure to run from windows first, the command chksk on them to mark the disks clean. Otherwise the partitioner will not be able to resize them properly05:06
hsystem-xand see if it is detected.05:06
geniiXeross: The command is chkdsk rather :)05:06
genii(forgot a d)05:06
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hsystem-xanyway, there is always a second option : ndiswrapper05:07
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Xerossi've read something about that05:07
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:07
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Xerossit's a Sweex Wireless LAN USB 2.0 Adapter 54 Mbps LW05305:07
Xerossu guys know when shipit will work again05:08
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Xerossthe dvd takes long to download05:10
Xeross8 hours05:10
ScorpKingget the cd05:11
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Xerossim planning on turning it into a webserver05:15
linuz1234alguien q hable castellano?05:15
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Tm_T!es | linuz123405:15
ubotulinuz1234: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:15
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Xeross20 mins till cd is done05:16
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arashSomeone hear noticed that the 'higher volume/mute/lower volume' doesn't work? It just says Kmix isn't running but it really does, this problem comes and goes completely randomly.05:17
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eeanarash: buttons on your keyboard or what?05:18
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kaminix|benkyouWhy is the Kubuntu update downloading in like 0.5 Kb/s and stalling all the time? Gay! :(05:21
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[GuS] never happened that to me kaminix|benkyou05:21
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ubunturosis 92 dpi default for X?05:22
kaminix|benkyou[GuS] : To me it got the first like 112 packages really fast, and now it's stuck with two others. I blame swedish servers, maybe I should turn on the international ones.05:22
werswont turn off my computer tonight.. downloading gutsy beta! yey!05:22
[GuS] yeah.. you should test another mirror kaminix|benkyou05:22
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kaminix|benkyouToo bad it'll have to realise it's being stupid by itself before I can do so :p05:23
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kaminix|benkyouScorpKing: Screenshot. ^^05:26
tininHi, is anybody running kubuntu gutsy?05:27
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ScorpKingthere is a wiki link for that.05:27
tininhas dolphin a tree view?05:27
Jucatonot in KDE 305:27
Jucatothe *real* Dolphin in KDE 4 has one05:27
ScorpKingand a distro. xp-desktop05:28
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kaminix|benkyouI want KDE4 :(05:29
tininkde4 may not be very usable05:29
kaminix|benkyouI want it finished. :p05:29
tininthey said that for xmas05:29
tininit will be a gift05:29
kaminix|benkyouHope it won't be delayed much more. It will make a nice christmas present. ^^05:29
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kaminix|benkyouChristmas as in December or December 24th (or 25th...).05:30
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ScorpKingkaminix|benkyou: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/KDE-XP is one of them. not sure where i can post a screenshot.05:30
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tininand how is gutsy beta? many stopping bugs in it?05:31
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Jucatotinin: not so much05:31
Jucatosome bugs here and there. but practically usable..05:31
Jucatobut still wouldn't recommend unless you really want to05:31
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kaminix|benkyouCan't I just replace my repos with the gutsy ones and run sudo aptitude upgrade instead of goofing around with stupid adept?05:32
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jerihelo everyone!05:32
tininwell, if you say there are problems, I dont want to worry too much about them05:32
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Jucatokaminix|benkyou: technically yes. but the version-upgrade manager does some stuff to ensure that you upgrade properly05:32
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kaminix|benkyouOkay, I see...05:33
jeroenvrpI need some help with an internet-connection via a nokia mobile phone (gprs), connected by USB?05:33
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jeroenvrpI try to do it with KPPP, but I don't what modem to use05:33
nosrednaekimjeroenvrp: I think thats handled by Kppp05:33
tininI installed my graphics with envy script, I guess I'll ave some problems upgrading05:33
jeroenvrpI try USB-modems, but no success05:33
ScorpKingkaminix|benkyou: this is as close as you'll get to xp - http://www.linux-xp.com/gallery/05:34
jerican someone help me? ive installed frostwire according to starter guide in kubuntu,the problem wont launch everytime i double click05:34
jeroenvrpdo I miss something@!?05:34
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Jucatojeri: did you install Sun Java?05:34
nosrednaekimjeroenvrp: never having done it myself,I'm not sure how it works05:34
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jerinope,ah hehe05:34
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jerihow do i install sun java?05:35
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:35
ScorpKingjeroenvrp: run sudo wvdailconf and look at /etc/wvdail.conf to see what the modem is.05:35
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deviancejeri: sudo apt-get sun-java5-jr05:36
jerimy system is 6.06 Lts dapper drake05:36
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ubunturosjeri: sun-java-jdk05:36
ubunturosjeri: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk05:36
ScorpKingi'm getting lost. cheers guys05:37
jeroenvrpScorpKing: thanks05:37
jeriim having trouble with the multiverse thing05:37
ihavenokeyboardhi i need to set up ubuntu to boot without a user/pass due to the fact my keyboards broken and i use onbored,any ideas?05:37
Jucatoubunturos: -jre05:37
ubunturosJucato: -jre?05:38
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Jucatoor sun-java5-bin (they both install each other)05:38
ubunturosjeri: issue those commands05:38
ihavenokeyboardjeri: so aren't quantum physicists.05:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:39
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jeriim having problems with multivserse since ive installed kubuntu05:39
devianceHow can I rip dvds?05:40
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emilsedghdeviance: i think k3b can do it05:40
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devianceIt diddnt seem to want to, i think it woul;d but I dont know which file it is I need05:41
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ubunturosjeri, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst05:41
emilsedghdeviance: K3B->Further Actions...05:41
jerihow do i do that,im sorry really amateur here05:42
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jerii think no can help now05:47
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jerihow do i disable gnome desktop so i could use Kde again05:49
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geniijeri: From your login screen just choose KDE for session instead of Gnome05:50
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dinoerataanyone know of great webcam software for ubuntu05:56
jerican help me,i cant open my adept because of this error msg : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.05:56
dinoeratai have kopete but i can only see myself , cannot see other party05:56
dappermuisjeri: so try running apt-setup and apt-get update05:56
Jucato!aptfix | jeri05:57
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ubotujeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:57
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jeriit says commnd not found05:57
dinoeratahey deffcon , do you know of great ubuntu webcam software or tool05:58
deviance:O Gutsy Beta is out :D05:58
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:58
dappermuisdeviance: isn't it only out on the 10th?05:58
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dappermuisi know that its been announced though05:59
devianceThe beta is out today :D05:59
dappermuisoh ok05:59
Russellhello all05:59
Jucatodappermuis: Gutsy Beta? no that's today05:59
devianceDigg says, so it must be true :D05:59
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org says so too05:59
dinoerataok will check it out bbotu05:59
dappermuisjucato: whats on the 10th then?05:59
Russellhow do i update to 7.10 beta from kubuntu 7.4?05:59
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Jucatodappermuis: Oct 10? the tagging of KDE 4 Beta 306:00
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devianceI'm guessign thats why the update manager had an adept update today :D06:00
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JucatoRussell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f5206:00
dappermuisjucato: lol - yes, that was it06:00
RussellJucato, thank06:00
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dappermuisjucato: there's too much happening in the free software world to keep track of it all :)06:00
jerican anyone help me i cant open my adept06:00
Jucato!aptfix | jeri06:01
Jucatobot??? :)06:01
jerii only get this error sign06:01
ubotujeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:01
jeriThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.06:01
devianceWell did you?06:01
jerii did that nothing happend06:01
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Russellcan't i update from shell by changing all instances of fiesty to gutsy on the apt sources file then issuing "apt-get dist-upgrade" commands?06:03
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JucatoRussell: you can. but the update manager does a few other things to make sure that the proper metapackages and stuff are installed to make the upgrade smoother06:03
RussellJucato, ok... one more question, when i'll want to update to 7.04 from the beta, how much will it download? around 200 mb, or again 700 mb?06:05
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Jucatonot really sure.. but theoretically, the same size as the total packages you have installed :)06:06
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geniiRussell: It's a lot06:06
Jucatothat could be more or less, depends. I think the upgrade manager will let you preview first before upgrading?06:06
jerican anyone help i cant open my adept i only get error msgs06:06
jeriThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.06:07
dappermuishow stable is gutsy beta btw?06:07
Jucatojeri: did you do the commands that the bot gave you (twice)?06:07
geniiJust my last set of gutsy updates on already installed gutsy was almost a gig06:07
Russellalright, thanks06:07
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Jucatojeri: what command did you enter to be exact?06:07
Jucato(just double checking)06:07
jerisudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:07
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jerii only copy and paste to terminal06:08
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Jucatojeri: try this again: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:08
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kozoHi has someone experience whit (first ubuntu and then installing vista (will ther be any trouble whit the bootloader?)06:09
dhqhow do i killall jobs on printer06:09
jerithen? it brought me back to root?06:09
contrast83Anyone in here use Tasty Menu?06:09
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Jucatojeri: can you try running Adept again?06:09
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contrast83kozo: AFAIK, it's next to impossible to install Vista *after* anything else if you want to keep the old OS. It's *possible*, but you have to know what you're doing (or find a tutorial that will guide you through it).06:10
jeristil the same error msg06:10
jeriThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.06:10
Jucatojeri: ok try this: sudo apt-get -f install06:10
hgarciaI installed xorg-driver-fglrx06:10
jeriit says :06:11
jeriE: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
jeriE: The list of sources could not be read.06:11
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hgarciathen I changed the video card to fglrx06:11
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kozois ther any tutorial for something like that?06:11
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rayluUbuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by06:11
rayluapplicable law.06:11
rayluYou have new mail.06:11
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hgarciafar as the drivers I set them to properitary06:12
rayluhow do i change the first message and how do i read my mail (besides cat /etc/mail/raylu)?06:12
contrast83kozo: I stumbled upon one quite some time back, so I know at least one exists. Have no idea what its url was though.06:12
hgarciamy resultion changed from 1200 x 900 to 640 x 480 is there any way to change it back the resolution that is06:12
rayluhgarcia, what did you do?06:12
Jucatojeri: that's the problem. you have wrnog text in your /etc/apt/source.list file06:12
hgarciaI installed the ati driver xorg-driver-fglrx06:13
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contrast83kozo: I'm pretty sure you'll have to re-do the partitions before installing Vista, moving Ubuntu to a secondary partition (it's on the primary partition now, and given Windows' superiority complex, it *has* to be on the primary partition).06:13
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Jucatojeri: undo what you did. then follow the guide for adding Universe and Multiverse06:13
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jeriwhat do i do?06:13
hgarciathen in the system settings I changed it to fgrx for the driver06:13
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hgarcianow my resolution droped06:13
kozohmm.. i think i go the easy way and install first vista and then ubuntu06:13
contrast83kozo: I'm pretty sure GParted will let you do that. You should be able to find a link to its homepage on distrowatch.org06:13
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contrast83kozo: Well, since you're reinstalling anyway, I recommend setting up seperate partitions for / and /home (and obviously another for swap) when you get to that step on the Kubuntu installation.06:14
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Kanniball is there any program to manage screencasts for kubuntu? like save the video and the decription to view offline06:15
contrast83kozo: That way, when you reinstall again, so long as you don't format the /home partition, all your personal settings and files will still be there.06:15
jerii think i have to reinstall kubuntu,that might solve the problem,or revert back to the time it was freshly installed06:15
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KanniballI've checked democracy player, but it want all gnome libs :S06:15
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kozoi have an 80 GB HD here how to partion it?06:16
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kozo30 vista 30 root 10 home 3 gb swap?06:16
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JaiBeesind hier deutsche?06:17
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kozoja ich ^^06:17
Jucato!de | JaiBee06:17
ubotuJaiBee: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:17
JaiBeeok dankeschn06:18
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JaiBeedann verlasse ich euch mal wieder06:18
llutzkozo: "30 root 10 home" ? what do you want to install to / ?06:18
JaiBeeja tschss06:18
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Knightlustjeri: i hope you dont reinstall kubuntu.. that's easy to fix06:18
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kozo./ is root or not?06:18
hgarciaany advice on my resolution issue?06:19
llutzkozo: most of the users don't even need more than 10GB for /06:19
sainzeoanyone else having problems starting a chat conversation using the groupwise plugin in kopete??06:19
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kozoyes you are right but i have 80 GB and dont know how to used it elsewhere06:19
llutzkozo: /home06:20
kozo10 GB06:20
llutzkozo: 10 /, 2 Swap, rest /home06:20
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llutzkozo: or spare 10-15 gb for parallel-installations06:21
kozook is 10 GB not a bit sparse06:21
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=== eloquence brb restarting e
llutzkozo: depends on what you're planning to do06:22
llutzmy / has only 3.5 used06:22
USMarinemy / has 8gb used06:22
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kozothen 30 GB vista / 10 /swap 2 /home 35 GB06:24
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USMarine2gb for swap *sigh*06:24
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llutzkozo: 30GB wasted :)06:25
USMarinebetter have a virtual machine06:25
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USMarineand trash it when you want06:25
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kozodont know what to do whit it i have here 80 + 500 + 200 + 320 GB so i dont have any space problems xD06:26
llutzkozo: why using all those disk if no need for them?06:26
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cloakablellutz: He will eventually :P06:27
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llutzwaste of endergy06:27
eloquencetheres always a need06:27
kozother is need for them like to load and save funsubs06:27
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eloquencefor more space06:27
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eloquencekozo do u watch bleach?06:28
frb-workis there a nifty mixing program for linux, like to make remixes of songs and other dance club music06:28
kozotoday new ep out  ^^06:28
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frb-workI've only seen the first season of bleach06:29
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kozo_Naruto is coming too ^ 1h special06:30
ralph_Hi all. Is there a way around the bcm not avail problem when booting a kubuntu live cd. Would love to try it out on my Dell Inspiron E1705.06:30
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kozo_Do you watch it too @eloquence06:31
eloquencei only saw th emovie06:33
eloquencethe bleach movie06:33
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eloquenceand i want to start watching the episodes but theres so much to download06:34
kozo_yes ther is06:34
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kozo_142 ep s06:35
eloquencewhere do u download from?06:35
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kozo_i think you can find ther packs whit all eps06:37
kozo_only need is space06:37
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kozo_and time06:37
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devianceHow do I get Amarok to check my local files for new files06:44
Daisuke_Laptopmake sure that the directory you're storing files in is part of the media collection, and make sure you have automatically scan for new files checked06:44
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Daisuke_Laptoproot on irc, how brilliant...06:45
devianceAh it worked, I had to reload all my music from my collection to my playlist, is there not a all collection option06:45
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Daisuke_Laptoplecture's starting, i should really pay attention :\06:46
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deviancegenii: Is there anything like Ubuntus deskbar applet for KDE?06:48
devianceOr Jucato if he knows06:49
Jucatothere will be, in Gutsy06:49
devianceOooh :D06:49
JucatoStrigi Applet06:49
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geniideviance: Probably but offhand i dunno06:49
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devianceIs it in the Gutsy Alpha? Or the Beta?06:50
Jucatobeta today06:50
devianceDid the Kubuntu beta come out today as well as ubuntus?06:50
devianceAh cool06:50
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devianceMy feed reader diddnt pick up that news from Kubuntu06:50
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eloquencewhat is a good system monitor to use?06:53
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emilsedghJucato: i never had a good experience with strigi, at least on kde3 :(, it dosnt support any usefull format06:53
devianceJucato: The one thing that I dont like is Kubuntus artwork.06:53
eloquencei cant use my superkaramba widgets since i am in enightenment right now06:53
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Jucatoemilsedgh, deviance: don't tell me. I didn't do those things :P06:54
devianceLike this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kdm.png06:54
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devianceFeisty was blue o.o06:54
Jucatofeisty was more purple than blue06:54
eloquenceblue > *06:54
Jucatokdm themes are sooo  changeable :P06:55
emilsedghJucato: why kubuntu doesnt use any other icon theme? crystal svg is everywhere, everyone is tired from it..06:55
Jucatoemilsedgh: trying to keep the KDE trademark as much as possible I believe06:55
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Jucatoand by trademark, I don't mean the legal trademark06:55
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devianceJucato: What are you running at the moment? The Beta?06:56
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emilsedghJucato: then users should install Debian, not kubuntu, kubuntu should bring the best kde configurations, also they changed win decoration and widget style, i think this should be changed too06:56
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Jucatounfortunately, the people who get to decide think differently06:57
Jucatoand specially wrt artwork, it's a very tricky thing06:57
eloquencewhat is a good system monitor to use i am on kubuntu but using enlightenment currently?06:57
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llutzuse the freedom, make it look like YOU want06:57
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newsense07eloquence: gkrellm06:58
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devianceAparently my Gfx card is good enough to run Nvidia-gxl drivers, I have them installed, how can I turn them on again? My Card is a 7300gs06:59
emilsedghllutz: sure, i do so, but when i compare ubuntu to kubuntu i see that gnome's default are really better06:59
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devianceTee Time :D07:00
devianceGood bye y'all07:00
Jucatobed time07:00
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emilsedghJucato: hey, update your blog, im waiting...07:01
JucatoI'm too busy thinking of something to blog to be able to blog :)07:01
Jucatoactually I have a list already... but I have to choose carefully now that I'm on two planets..07:02
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emilsedghJucato: ubunru and kde? lol, write about how crap is gnome, and wait for a flame war in the comments :D07:02
Jucatotsk tsk.. I'm not like that :P07:03
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ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox07:04
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frb-workif I wanted to use Vbox PUE on gutsy, is it possible?07:06
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cashhello there )07:07
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cashplease help me change file-system from read-only mode to exchange ?07:08
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cashI mean cdrom07:08
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cashsorry to execute07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdetv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opentv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:09
cashany body alive ?07:09
Tm_Tall bodies are dead07:09
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kstanleyI would like to congratulate the Kubuntu developers; It is the best live distro I have used in a long time. Thank you!07:09
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Tm_Tkstanley: youre welcome07:10
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kstanleythank you07:10
cashHelp me please !!!07:10
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cashTm_T please give me a piece of advice07:11
Tm_Tcash: whats the problem?07:11
cashTm_T I need to change file-system mode from read-only to execute ,and cant make that with "chmod" it is cdrom =(07:12
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Tm_Tcash: well you cant07:12
Tm_Tcash: if you need to execute something, do run it from Konsole, like "sh /media/cdrom/file-i-run07:13
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cashTm_T I need to run many files ...I try to install matlab07:13
Lunar_LampWhen I try to run screen I get the error: Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied07:13
Lunar_LampWhat's going on there?!07:13
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llutzcash: remount it with exec-option07:14
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cashllutz please tell me , how ?07:14
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter07:14
llutzcash: sudo mount -o remount,exec /media/cdrom07:15
cashI mean thanks ))07:15
casha lott07:15
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stdinLunar_Lamp: that should have been created when screen was installed, if not do "sudo mkdir /var/run/screen && sudo chgrp utmp /var/run/screen && sudo chmod 775 /var/run/screen"07:16
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Lunar_Lampstdin: that's what I'd have thought - but I've been running screen, and then it suddenly won't work. I don't remember making any alterations that would have an impact :-/07:16
Lunar_Lamp(that worked to fix it - but still - I'm concerned as to what caused ti)07:17
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cashllutz it is dont help =(( maybe exists other ways ? =( sorry for many questions07:17
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cashoh !Im stupid man !It is works !thanks for your answers !!07:19
stdinLunar_Lamp: do you have /etc/init.d/screen ?07:19
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stdinLunar_Lamp: is there a link called /etc/rcS.d/S70screen that points to it ?07:21
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Lunar_Lampstdin: yup07:22
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stdinLunar_Lamp: well that script should create that directory anyway, /var/run is a tempfs so it's deleted at poweroff, that script should run at boot and remake that directory07:23
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Lunar_LampHmm, ok, I'll check the script quickly to see if there's anything obvious about it.07:24
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Lunar_LampAll seems ok to me07:25
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stdinthen afaik, it _should_ be working, not sure why it's not07:25
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Lunar_Lampstdin: I'll see what happens on next reboot.07:27
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RytmenPinnenam I allowed to ask about problems related to konversation in here? The thing is that I cant join channels with "" (nordic letters)07:31
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Lunar_LampRytmenPinnen: try #konversation :-)07:32
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RytmenPinnenthank you07:33
winbondmy fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?07:34
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LjLRytmenPinnen, i don't think channels with non-ASCII letters can *exist* at all...07:34
RytmenPinnenthey can on quakenet :P07:34
LjLwell, here07:35
LjLJOIN #07:35
LjL:brown.freenode.net 479 ljl2 # :Illegal channel name07:35
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RytmenPinnenwell, is there anything I can do about it? or am I doomed to switch client ?  :o07:35
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LjLRytmenPinnen, is that on freenode, or some network that you *know* allows such channel names?07:36
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LjLor if you prefer, what's the server address you're connecting to?07:36
RytmenPinnenits on quakenet.org07:36
frb-workdoes ati on linux support crossfire?07:36
RytmenPinnenwhen I try to join I get this [20:26]  [Error]  #ndutgng: No such channel.07:37
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LjLRytmenPinnen, uhm, i cannot connect to there because it requires registration... however, i suspect it's an encoding problem rather than a client problem07:38
LjLi.e. it works if you use Latin1, but not if you use UTF-8, which is the Ubuntu standard07:38
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winbondmy fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?07:40
winbondmy fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?07:40
winbondmy fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?07:40
RivaeAeryaGuys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff..07:40
LjLwinbond: you could start by not spamming the channel07:40
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LjLwinbond: "it's not mounting" you mean automatically, or manually?07:41
winbondautomatically, im not spaming, damn piece of crap konversation is not working right07:41
LjLwell, if you try manually, does it work?07:42
LjLi.e. sudo mount /media/cdrom007:42
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winbondLjL: it says no medium found, but i have a blank cd in there, i want to burn a cd07:43
ubuntuIs this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test07:43
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RivaeAeryaGuys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff.. Oh and, does anyone know a good firewall for KDE?07:44
Daisuke_Laptopfirewall for kde?07:45
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Daisuke_Laptopthere's a firewall for linux installed by default on every distro (or nearly every)07:45
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:45
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RivaeAeryaah, guarddog.. thanks! :)07:46
Daisuke_Laptopguarddog is apparently a good frontend for iptables :D07:46
Daisuke_Laptopi couldn't remember the kde one07:46
RivaeAeryaGuarddog is the KDE one07:46
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Daisuke_Laptopremembered firestarter for some reason...  probably because of the book07:46
RivaeAeryabut i was using firestarter until now07:46
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winbondwho is a dmin here?07:47
CongealedMirthHey all07:47
stdinadmin for what?07:47
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stdinadmin for what?07:47
CongealedMirthQuick question on Kubuntu:  Which tool is the standard one for changing the network settings?  Is it KNetworkManager?  And in that case, how do I make effects permanent?07:47
winbondwho is a admin here?07:48
stdinadmin for what?07:48
winbondfor the channel07:48
stdinwinbond: why?07:48
dettoaltrimentiwhere can I change the settings for mouse sensitivity?07:48
winbondroom , whatever, couse i need to talk to an admin07:48
stdinCongealedMirth: look in System Settings > network ?07:48
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stdinwinbond: join #ubuntu-ops07:48
Jucatodettoaltrimenti: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse ?07:49
Lunar_LampHow do I minimise Thunderbird to the system tray?07:49
winbondstdin: thanks07:49
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dettoaltrimentiJucato- I don't have that under my System Settings: I have personal, look and feel, computer administration, network and connectivity07:49
CongealedMirthstdin:  ok, and how do i make them permanent?  I have a static IP that I assign...yet when I reboot it all goes away07:50
LjLwinbond you can't mount an empty cd... and it doesn't need to be mounted to burn things on it, either07:50
dettoaltrimentihah I found it sorry07:50
ubuntuI'm installing a kubuntu desktop. now i need to know: Is this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test07:50
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DaSkreechWhat the heck?07:50
CongealedMirthhola Jucato07:50
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stdinCongealedMirth: it should be permanent if you set it there07:51
DaSkreechanyone ever hung out in #debian ?07:51
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Roeystdin:  nope it isn't07:52
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ubuntunormale that command does a destructive test (which I want). but the man for mkfs.ext3 doesn't say destructive for the double -c option. so hs that behavior changed from what other distributions do?07:52
frb-workDaSkreech: long ago in a land far far away07:52
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DaSkreechI have no voice in the chan I don't know07:53
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DaSkreechI can't ask a question and they don't want me messaging anyone07:53
ArkardHi people07:53
Arkardi need some help with a modem07:53
Arkardi want to connect me in a Dial Up Connection07:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:54
DaSkreechDumb bot07:54
Arkardbut i cant configure the modem07:54
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto07:54
Jucato(dumb person asking the bot :P)07:54
Arkardlet me see07:54
Jucatothat was for DaSkreech btw, :D07:54
DaSkreechthere is !modem as well07:55
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DaSkreechBut it should knoooooow what I'm asking for07:55
JohnFluxcan I temporarily prevent kde/hal/whatever from mounting my usb disk?07:55
JohnFluxwhen I plug it in07:55
JohnFluxI need to fsck it07:55
DaSkreechHold shift >_<07:55
Arkardbtw how can i create a Block Device?07:56
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DaSkreechArkard: try mknod07:56
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JohnFluxDaSkreech: really? or is that just windows? :07:57
DaSkreechJohnFlux: that's windows07:57
Arkardi have a lot of LAG07:57
DaSkreechwould be nice though :)07:57
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RivaeAeryaGuys, i'm looking for a monopoly for KDE. I've tried atlantik, but no one _EVER_ comes online there.07:59
RivaeAeryado you guys know any?07:59
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DaSkreechRivaeAerya: Are you serious?07:59
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DaSkreechI normally find like 5 people on07:59
DaSkreechlike one that wants to play with me but that's beside the point08:00
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Jucatowho'd want to play w/ you? O.o08:00
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DaSkreechompaul: Question. What's the error Cannot send to channel indicate?08:00
timucin_kizilayhi !, I've downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 beta iso and when I boot my computer with it, it ask username and password. so, what is that username and password?08:00
DaSkreechJucato: My dogs.. after I roll in steak .. and gravy08:00
JucatoDaSkreech: moderated channel?08:00
stdintimucin_kizilay: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy help08:01
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: yes, i'm serious08:01
DaSkreechJucato: I would think so but apparently it's only moderated for me08:01
llp78is it possible to remove a word from every filename in the current directory ? for example the file are "test1 word" test2 word etc.. i want to remove the word in all the files - over 500 file so dont want to do it manually08:01
timucin_kizilaythanks stdin. :)08:01
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: How long have you been trying?08:01
JucatoDaSkreech: this is where? #debian on freenode?08:01
DaSkreechllp78: #bash08:01
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: well i've been on there several times and there's not many people online.08:01
DaSkreechJucato: ja08:01
ompaulDaSkreech, it is not an error, it means exactly what it says on the tin, the cause is a channel operator has either (A) made a channel mode +m or (B) you are muted, either cos you are banned and you have not been removed, or you are actually able to join and part but not talk08:02
DaSkreechRivaeAerya: I'll agree it's not a Halo3 mosh fest but there is normally someone there. If not I just leave it open it flashes the bar when anything of significance happens so I can play and do work at the same time08:02
RivaeAeryaDaSkreech: hmm.08:02
JucatoDaSkreech: +c +f +P  I think +c is no colors. not sure about the other 208:03
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Jucatoanyway.. /me bed08:03
DaSkreechompaul: Why would I be able to join and part and not talk when that seems does not seem to be the policy and I have just got this computer on the net so I think I would have to be prebanned08:03
Arkardmknod always say: Invalid mode08:03
DaSkreechJucato: Night sleep well08:03
Arkardcan anybody help me?08:04
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ompaulDaSkreech, IP related who knows08:04
DaSkreechArkard: read the man page it's a tricky little command08:04
ompauland DaSkreech offtopic for here08:04
DaSkreechompaul: Right thanks08:04
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DaSkreechompaul: very sure but I'm oftopic everywhere but that chan and I'm not to message any one so I can't talk normally or message ops without breaking policy08:05
Arkardi dont know how to configure mi modem?08:06
Arkardwait for me a few minutes08:06
newsense07Arkard: well be waiting08:07
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Arkardim back, sorry08:12
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emilsedgh!hi Arkard08:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi arkard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:16
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:17
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emilsedghi wanted to say | Arkard :D08:17
Arkardso as i was saying08:18
Arkardi cant configure my modem08:18
Arkardcan you help me?08:18
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emilsedghArkard: whats your modems chipset?08:19
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kreibhave a problem with internet connection on  my pc08:20
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Arkardlet me see emilsedgh08:21
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Arkardemilsedgh: a little stamp say: CNR V1.208:22
kreibit only connects sometimes08:22
emilsedghArkard: i dunno CNR, usually they are conexant or intel or slmodemd...i think i could you with conexant and/or slmodemd08:22
Arkardlet me see better08:23
Arkardyeap, here another stamp say CNR 2002/3408:23
kreibsomeone can help with mye internet connection please?08:24
Arkardwhat is your probem kreib?08:24
emilsedghArkard: could you please copy the output of lspci into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?08:24
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kreibit only commects sometimes08:24
emilsedghkreib: you should say more details...08:25
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ArkardDial up or DSL?08:25
kreiband then it works ok, bu other times it fails08:25
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Arkardcheck the cable08:25
kreibits wireless08:26
ArkardCheck the coniguration08:26
Arkardin your PC08:26
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ArkardSup man08:27
kreibyeah, I have a wmp54g linksys with rt2561 driver08:27
CugelAnyone installed that Gutsy beta yet?08:27
stdinCugel: #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask08:28
CugelOkay (though I was refering to Kubuntu).08:28
Arkardthe problem is sometimes it connects and sometimes not? or you are working and suddenly DC?08:28
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kreibyes sometimes it does08:28
stdinCugel: that channel is for both ubuntu and kubuntu08:28
Arkardwich one kreib?08:28
newsense07kreib: latest firmware on router ?08:28
kreibits a wrt54gl router08:29
newsense07kreib:id update the firmware to elimanate that possibility08:29
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Arkardyeah, could be08:29
kreibok, maybe try that08:29
Arkardif i can i help :D08:30
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kreibthing is, its a htpc, with no keyboard, if I could just have a script that does /etc/init.d/networking restart , a little while after boot it would be ok I think08:31
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kreibor until connection is established08:32
newsense07kreib: shouldnt have to do that08:32
kreibI know, but it works always on my laptop, so I doubt its the router08:32
newsense07kreib: any other computers connecting wireless on your lan ?08:32
kreibthe htpc and the laptop08:33
newsense07kreib: ok nm than08:33
ArkardDamn Modem08:33
herowhat directories does konqueror put cache?08:33
ArkardWill be easier if i have a DSL T_T08:34
pillowpants__does anyone know where i can get the wiley linux bible ebook?08:34
pillowpants__i saw a link from somewhere not too long ago08:34
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DaSkreech!away | savetheworld08:34
ubotusavetheworld: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines08:34
ArkardHave anyone hear about SATAN?08:35
DaSkreechhero: /var/cahce ?08:35
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DaSkreech /var/cache08:35
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pillowpants__!linux bible08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux bible - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:36
DaSkreechpillowpants__: KDE?08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icthux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:36
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about satan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)08:37
DaSkreechArkard: Not quite the same thing08:37
kaminixHow can I fix scim-skim in Gutsy? Do I need to compile it myself?08:37
pillowpants__DaSkreech: huh?08:38
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DaSkreechpillowpants__: You want a bible for KDE?08:38
weyerhi, i'm helping someone to install kubuntu, and i'm wondering if he has installed 32 or 64 bit08:39
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weyerhow can i check that?08:39
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stdinweyer: see what "dpkg --print-architecture" prints08:40
USMarinetype arch08:40
USMarinein console08:40
stdinUSMarine: bash: arch: command not found08:40
weyernice, thnx08:41
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pillowpants__DaSkreech: no, i was just wondering if someone had a link for the wiley linux bible ebook08:41
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pillowpants__i got it from here not too long ago08:41
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pillowpants__i need to check something, but im not on my home comp08:41
DaSkreechpillowpants__: Ah. No Warez here08:42
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DaSkreechpillowpants__: You may try the wiley site They probably have it there somewhere08:42
USMarinestdin sorry, but i could swear there was such command08:42
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stdinUSMarine: there is on some other distros, like RPM based ones08:43
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Arkardhave anyone here used KSniffer?08:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksniffer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:43
herowhat directories does konqueror store its cache in? it's not /var/cache08:43
ScorpKinghi stdin!08:43
danyhi all..!08:43
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stdinhey ScorpKing :)08:43
USMarinewhat's up dany08:43
DaSkreech!info ksniffer08:43
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ubotuksniffer: network sniffing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1180 kB08:44
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ArkardDaSkreech, what is does?08:44
stdinhero: look at /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER08:44
herostdin: ok08:44
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ScorpKingstdin: i see a few people complained about the service menu not being installed with your script. think i found the problem. :)08:44
V-Syou use msn?08:44
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xenolhello does anyone have experience with installing ut2004 on kubuntu?08:45
DaSkreechArkard: It sniffs the network08:45
stdin!games | xenol08:45
ubotuxenol: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php08:45
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stdinScorpKing: do tell :)08:45
USMarineV-S damn right i do08:45
DaSkreechxenol: what's the problem?08:45
ScorpKingstdin: gimme a sec.08:45
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kreibgconf-editor, is that for ubuntu only? what about kubuntu?08:45
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xenolDaSkreech: oh :< i already looked at all sites that have smth with ut2004, prob is i install it patch it then start game and it wont open08:46
USMarinexenol do they have execute permissions?08:46
DaSkreechno error messages?08:46
Arkardwell in a LAN Netwerk i can see all the other PC's but i cant enter in $C and i know the Admin Password, help here08:46
Sannekreib: gconf-editor is for Gnome. For Kde you can use System Settings or kcontrol (the KDE default Control Center)08:47
kaminixIs Gutsy using QT4? It is WAY faster than before I upgraded.08:47
pillowpants__has anyone here tried freeNAS?08:47
t4thfavor@Arkard tun off simple file sharing on the windows boxes08:47
stdinkaminix: kde 3.* still uses Qt3  there are some Qt4 apps tho08:47
ArkardBTW t4thfavor all the other PC's use Windows08:48
kaminixstdin: Any idea why it's not using any swap now? Was using like 400MB before. Is it due to me rebooting?08:48
DaSkreechkaminix: somethings are but by and large no08:48
DaSkreech!info freenas08:48
ubotuPackage freenas does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:48
stdinkaminix: yeah, reboot will clear swap08:48
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t4thfavorArkard they need to have somple file sharing disabled08:48
xenolUSMarine: dunno i installed it to my home folder and it wrote in konsole smth like "Cant run UT2004 (ut2004-bin). Is UT2004_DATA_PATH set?"08:48
DaSkreechand /tmp08:48
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ScorpKingstdin: mountserv.desktop is being copied to the wrong place. export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/applnk/Utilities should be export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ to copy it correctly.08:49
Arkardwhere i do that t4thfavor?08:49
t4thfavorGo here http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/winxpnetworking/ht/winxpsfs.htm08:50
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ScorpKingpillowpants__: can you /pm?08:52
stdinScorpKing: mountserv.desktop isn't copied to $SYSDIR  it's to ${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/08:53
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ScorpKingstdin: lol. i see. i found it under .kde/share/applnk/Utilities after install tho. :)08:54
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stdinhmm, I'll have a look at it08:54
stdinScorpKing: was it "mountfile.desktop" or "mountserv.desktop" ?08:55
ScorpKingstdin: let me make sure.08:56
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ScorpKingstdin: mountfile.desktop - i'm lost. :D08:57
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stdinScorpKing: mountfile.desktop makes the entry in the KMenu08:57
USMarinexenol try running it from the game dir08:57
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stdinScorpKing: tho, I'm moving that to ${prefix}/share/applications/kde now08:58
ScorpKingstdin: well, i think the problem is it doesn't copy right. i've never done any scripting tho. :)08:58
manchickenAnybody know how to get a blackberry to sync with kontact?08:58
ugalol "https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems"08:59
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stdinScorpKing: do you see mountserv.desktop in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ ?08:59
ugano issues at this time? =)08:59
ugasomebody forgot to update the list since the first release?08:59
ScorpKingstdin: i had to copy it there09:00
xenolUSMarine: well i read it should be neough to write ut2004 in terminal and game should run but nothing happens09:00
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stdinScorpKing: k09:00
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kaminixAfter I upgraded to Gutsy my Yakuake console uses antialiasing, how do I turn it off?09:02
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thomas_i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?09:04
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stdinScorpKing: strange, when I install it it works09:05
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ScorpKingstdin: yeah, but for some it doesn't work. no idea why tho. i'll let you know if i find out why.09:07
stdinScorpKing: if you can edit installGUI.sh and put "set -x" under "#!/bin/sh", then run it from konsole and pastebin the result that would help09:08
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JParishySo how's the new beta?09:08
ScorpKingstdin: even if it's already installed?09:08
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frb-workgutsy seems to be serving me well09:10
stdinScorpKing: should still work, but you can remove it and try.  "rm ~/bin/mountfile ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop ~/.kde/share/applnk/Utilities/mountfile.desktop "09:10
JParishyI'm just about to download it and put it on my macbook09:10
ScorpKingstdin: will do.09:11
thomas_i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?09:12
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ScorpKingstdin: #!/bin/sh and the next line #set -x right?09:14
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stdinScorpKing: without the "#"  just "set -x"09:14
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coreymon77thomas_: press properties next to the printer name in the print window09:16
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coreymon77thomas_: then go to the driver settings tab09:16
coreymon77thomas_: then click on printout mode directly under the word General09:17
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FishyHow unstable is the latest kubuntu beta? Any major problems?09:17
coreymon77thomas_: then choose one of the greyscale options09:17
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coreymon77Fishy: #ubuntu+1 would be better for that09:17
thomas_coreymon77: but they all say + color cart09:18
coreymon77thomas_: wrong printout mode09:18
coreymon77thomas_: the other one09:18
coreymon77thomas_: right above media source09:19
thomas_coreymon77: draft grayscale?09:19
coreymon77thomas_: do you want draft quality?09:19
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thomas_coreymon77: lol i don'nt know if thats really bad or not09:19
coreymon77thomas_: draft is bad09:19
ScorpKingstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38839/ - it did not copy.09:19
coreymon77thomas_: draft is fast print09:19
thomas_coreymon77: alright I'll check it out thank you man09:20
coreymon77thomas_: click on normal gratscale09:20
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stdinScorpKing: so /home/scorpking/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ is empty?09:20
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ScorpKingstdin: that dir is wrong.09:21
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DexterFfeisty: beryl once worked, weeks ago, now not anymore. anyone got a clue? there some known fsckup?09:21
ScorpKingstdin: it must be /home/scorpking/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/09:21
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stdinScorpKing: ahh, yes :p09:21
ScorpKingi guess the problem is solved. :D09:22
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The_Machinei'm getting an error writing a DVD in k3b and i don't know how to troubleshoot it.  I can burn CDs (data/audio) just fine.09:23
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The_Machinehere is the error:09:24
Chousukean I/O error with cryptic error codes says nothing to me09:25
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kreibis there someway to programatically test if there is internet connection ?09:26
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thomas_how to mkdir with one line such as instead of: mkdir a | mkdir b | mkdir c09:27
thomas_but mkdir a,b,c?09:27
The_MachineChousuke, says nothing?  what do you expect it to say?09:27
Chousukesomething informative09:27
Chousukethat tells what the error is :P09:28
The_Machineyou don't use linux much, do you?09:28
ChousukeWell, I used to09:28
Chousukefor about 3 years09:28
sainzeoi'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?09:28
Chousukethen I moved to OS X09:28
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xenolChousuke: can u say OS X is better then kubuntu>09:29
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Chousukexenol: IMHO it is.09:29
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rrbizall i got was 4 system files in dist-upgrade today, i thought beta would have a bigger upgrade load09:30
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ShaneNHello all09:32
sainzeoi'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?09:34
rrbizhi ShaneN09:34
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pierrethhello, firefox keeps opening the links from Konqueror. How can I stop this?09:35
thomas_why doesn't this work?: mkdir admin newnham | mkdir newnham/library09:36
elo_brb reboot09:36
Lunar_Lamp_Er, thomas_ I don't think the "|" char does what you think it does.09:36
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thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: doesn't it allow you to do another command09:37
thomas_like tree | more09:37
Lunar_Lamp_You want to do "and" there not "take the output of the first command and give it as input into the second command".09:37
Lunar_Lamp_The "and" you want to use is "&&" which is "and if the previous command went without error, do this next one".09:37
Lunar_Lamp_However, you can do it all in one command.09:37
stdinScorpKing: fixed in version
thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: show me :)?09:38
ScorpKingstdin: sweet!09:38
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Lunar_Lamp_mkdir -p /path/to/dirs/which/will/make/parents/as/requird09:38
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thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: but i'm making 2 directories and only the second one is making parent directories09:40
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thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: huh you don't need -p to make a directory, like: mkdir ~/home/user/exampledir09:41
Lunar_Lamp_Sorry, thomas_ - you are in, for example, /home/thomas_ and want to create /home/thomas_/testing/bash/commands09:41
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Lunar_Lamp_No, the -p isn't needed to create a single - but you wanted to create a directory with a subdirectory, so instead of this;  "mkdir /test && mkdir /test/subdir" you can do "mkdir -p /test/subdir"09:42
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boguh_how can i activate these full  konqueror profiles?09:42
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boguh_just read that these standard profiles in kubuntu are more "user friendly"09:43
thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: ok so I can also do mkdir dir1 dir2 dir3/parent1/parent209:43
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Sanneboguh_: this should help: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror09:44
RivaeAeryaHow do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?09:44
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boguh_Sanne just did that, cant see any difference09:44
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Lunar_Lamp_thomas_: yes, you can.  This works: "mkdir -p test1 test2 test3/test3a/test3b"09:45
Sanneboguh_: you should now have settings->Load/Save/Configure view profiles09:45
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ubuntu_tem alguem ai ::09:46
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Sanneboguh_: there's also this (also check out the link to jucato's blog in there): http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=30757609:47
RivaeAeryaHow do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?09:47
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fevelI had ubuntu installed and now I installed kubuntu-desktop to check it out09:50
ozehkaHello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory....09:50
thomas_Lunar_Lamp_: is there a faster way instead of having to type richmondhill over and over?: mkdir -p -v richmondhill/annex richmondhill/building1 richmondhill/parking09:50
fevelalthough my locale settings changed to us09:50
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fevelcan someone help me change or install my locale?09:51
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davubuntuHey all... I was wondering if anyone could help me with my touchpad dimensions. I have ksynaptic installed and have turned on vertical and horizontal scrolling but the scrollers take up way too much of the pad (and they're a little buggy). Is there a way to configure the dimensions of the touchpad area and the scroller area?09:51
prashantpawarI hate the fags at ATI, they have given such a bad linux support to their graphics chips, I can't run beryl or compiz properly09:52
Lunar_Lamp_You could do "rh=richmondhill" and then on the next line "mkdir -p -v $rh/annex $rh/building" etc.  that makes it two lines as the "rh=richmondhill" has to be on a line of it's own.  It will last until you exit the terminal.  Alternatively, you could "cd richmondhill" as a command and then you would be creating dirs in that dir09:52
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:57
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ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning09:58
feierfoxmy kubuntu gutsy does not mount my second SATA HD09:58
feierfoxcan someone help me?09:58
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feierfoxi had the same problem with the feisty upgrade09:58
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ugafeierfox: does manual mounting work?09:59
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ugafeierfox: ie, the problem is with automounting, or with mounting in general10:00
ozehkaHello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory. any help?10:00
feierfoxand i dont know how to mount manuel :(10:00
ugafeierfox: then edit /etc/fstab as root (sudo)10:00
ugado you see the line that describes how to mount your second disk?10:01
ugait should be /dev/sdb1, or so10:01
ScorpKingozehka: pastebin the output of dmesg10:01
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ozehkalol nothing big :P10:01
ozehkae.g. ...10:01
ozehka$ eclipse10:01
ozehkaSegmentation fault (core dumped)10:01
ugafeierfox: mounting manually is easy.  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mydisk" for example10:01
quixogreafternoon all10:02
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ugaozehka: core dumped? sounds like you run the program as root?10:02
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feierfox /media/data ext3 user,rw,auto10:02
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ozehkano i deleted my user name10:02
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ugafeierfox: the line should be longer, including a device name or device UUID, right?10:02
ozehkawhat does core dumped mean?10:03
feierfoxhmm it says, that the /dev/sda1 is allready mounted10:03
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feierfoxbut i can't see the drive or files :(10:03
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quixogreozehka, not a good thing...unix/linux equivelant of blue screen basically...program crashed, and created a file of the reason10:04
ugafeierfox: sda1 is the first partition of the first disk10:04
ugafeierfox: sda2 is second primary partition of the first disk. sdb is the second disk, sdb1 is the first primary partition of the second disk...10:04
ugaetc etc10:04
dappermuisozehka: segmentation faults usually occur when you try access an illegal part of memory10:04
ugafeierfox: sda=first disk. sdb=second one10:04
ozehkayes, mostly caused by corrupt memory10:04
feierfoxmount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:05
dappermuisyip, or bad programming :)10:05
ozehkayes... but all programs are bad coded? :P10:05
ugafeierfox: okay. Then try this:  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"10:05
ugafeierfox: it should work as root (with sudo)10:05
ozehkaeclipse, firefox, totem, ...?10:05
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ugawhat, didn't it work?10:06
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quixogreanyone recommend a good virtual mmachine for linux? would like to run my xp partition soemtimes10:06
ugaquixogre: VirtualBox or VMWare10:06
feierfoxit shows me many options how to use this command10:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers10:06
ozehkalets exclude the "corrupt memory"... what could be the problem then?10:06
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ugafeierfox: what did you type exactly?10:06
feierfoxsudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ext310:07
ugafeierfox: did I write "ext3" in my line?10:07
ugaso why did you? =)10:07
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ugaI never do mistakes, okay? :P10:07
feierfoxi should say, that i 'm using the unstable gutsy10:07
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feierfoxbecause it asked me for it10:07
feierfoxyou line: mount: you must specify the filesystem type10:08
dappermuisozekha: i have no idea - the fact that its happening to more than on program is troubling10:08
ugafeierfox: uh-oh... if it asked for partition type, it means it didn't recognise it. That means it's not ext310:08
feierfoxbut it is!10:08
ugafeierfox: try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt"10:08
feierfoxmount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist10:08
ozehkadappermuis: Use auto-complete. My nick's not ozekha ;-)10:08
ugafeierfox: okay, the second disk wasn't detected by the kernel, then10:08
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ugafeierfox: ls /dev/sd*10:09
ozehkadappermuis: So it's quite likely that it's the memory. Could it be the HD too?10:09
feierfoxi had the same problem with the unstable feisty!10:09
ugadoes it show anything like sdc, sdd...?10:09
dappermuisozehka, lol - oops10:09
feierfoxin my community more and more people had the same problem10:09
ScorpKinghi der dappermuis!10:09
bleakedso i had a failing root drive (ide), so i recently replaced it with a sata drive, then reinstalled.  everything worked until i removed the ide drive.  now it will not boot.  so i loaded up the live cd, then grub, located stage1 (hd0,0), set the root, then setup on hd0.  now grub loads with all of my old menu entries, but none of them work, giving an error 21 and something about the disk not being there.  i tried editing the grub config10:09
bleakedfrom within grub, and it seems to attempt to boot, but the loading bar just idles.   is there a way i can blow away all entries, build a fresh grub install on the correct drive pointing to the correct kernel?10:09
dappermuisozehka: i don't know - never heard of hard drive causing a segmentation fault10:09
feierfoxit only could fixed with downgrading the kernel10:09
ugafeierfox: I had probs with an IDE drive, not with SATA10:09
dappermuisScorpKing: hiya!10:09
feierfoxso i hope they will bring a fix in the next kernelpatch10:09
quixogreozekha, what distro you running?10:09
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ugafeierfox: what's the motherboard?10:10
ozehkaquixogre: Use autocomplete :D I'm using kubuntu 7.0410:10
feierfoxASUS ASRockK7...4A or something10:10
ugafeierfox: give the Asus CD a try... it may contain drivers10:10
feierfoxthe HD is a SAMSUNG Spinpoint SATA210:10
ugajust like mine did. I found out thanks to genii10:10
quixogreozehka: sorry. and when does the core dump occur?10:10
feierfoxi think i should wait for gutsy become stable10:11
ozehkathe longer kubuntu runs, the more likely starting programs causes core dumps....10:11
ozehkalike now, i can't start firefox, eclipse etc10:11
ugafeierfox: give the CD a try... if the drivers are there, it's only about loading their module. Both gutsy and festy live CDs failed to install on this box10:11
ozehkaI think I'll run memtest86 for an hour or so...10:11
thomas_how do you remove a directory if it has stuff in it without caring that its not empty10:11
ugagutsy's runtime kernel is okay though10:11
feierfoxnono, with feisty everything works fine!10:12
feierfoxthe trouble starts with upgrading to unstable gutsy10:12
ugafeierfox: yeah, and Santa will bring me a porsche for xmas10:12
ugasure =)10:12
ozehkathomas_: rm -r dir/ (but I [unix-noob]  am not sure :D)10:12
quixogreozehka: if its occurring habitually with time, could be memory, hard drive, swap space, processor overheating, lots of things10:12
feierfoxbut thanks a lot for your help!10:12
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ugafeierfox: as far as you can survive without second disk till gutsy is out...10:13
feierfoxreboot :/10:13
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feierfoxfromt htis point :(((10:13
quixogrethomas_: man rm10:13
feierfoxmore than a half month :/10:13
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:14
feierfoxand it isnt said, that it will then for sure :O10:14
thomas_ozehka: k ;)10:14
ozehkaquixogre: Ah yes, btw - if I restart the X-Server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and relogin, progs work again10:14
xenolquixogre:  one detail about man, how can i cancel it and return to terminal?10:14
ozehkathomas_: Does it work? Man, am I leet B-)10:14
feierfoxbut, its possible, that the kernel-fix for my problem comes out tonight10:14
ugafeierfox: I'm not that patient... if something I "buy" doesn't work, I either fix it in less than 2 days, or ditch it ;)10:14
quixogrexenol: :q10:14
feierfoxand go to gutsy.unstable was my own fault (right word?)10:15
xenolquixogre:  ty :*10:15
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thomas_ozehka: I think you're right10:15
ugafeierfox: I was half-forced to do so10:15
quixogrewish more people knew how to read man pages.....10:15
ugabut I'm pretty sure your second disk issue is only about loading a module...10:15
quixogreozehka: so refreshing xWINDOWS FIXES THE PROBLEM?10:16
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quixogresorry for caps10:16
feierfoxi coult take it as a essentiell expirience10:16
feierfox"how to life after a HD-head-crash"10:16
feierfoxor something..10:16
quixogreozehka: its been YEARS since i diagnosed a core file...but think thats what you need to do, to narrow down the problem.10:17
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ozehkaquixogre: A what? Sounds complicated :P10:17
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ugafeierfox: you could always install the feisty kernel in gutsy10:18
quixogreozehka: grep for a file with core in the title....paste it to the clipboard thingy. hopefully me or one of the gurus can figure it out10:18
thomas_ozehka: hey do you know if you can tell what are files and folders when issuing the command tree?10:18
ugafeierfox: if it's a kernel bug, it should get you fixed10:18
ozehkaquixogre: ok thanks a lot10:18
quixogreozehka: hehe it is...segmentation fault creates a "dump" of what was happening when the process crashed....usually a good indication of whats causing the crash10:19
ugafeierfox: also, make sure there's no /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1... it may have taken a different name somehow?10:19
quixogre!core dump10:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about core dump - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:19
ozehkathomas_: Sorry...?10:19
ugaquixogre: yup, but those dumps are only created when it's the root running, right?10:20
feierfoxchanging the kernel? are i'm linus torvalds?10:20
ugafeierfox: who changed changing the kernel. Changing from one kernel to another10:20
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ugainstalling a .deb file =)10:20
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quixogreuga, dont think so...used to diagnose core files for users at motorola...10:20
quixogrelinux may be different though...10:20
ozehkaquixogre: Where are these core files located?10:20
thomas_ozehka: ok i have files and folders right....and when I issue "tree", it lists everything i have in this folder. However I would like to distinguish folders from files10:21
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ugaquixogre: uhm... I'm pretty sure I always got dumps only as root in the past... uhm... anyway, lets check next time ;10:21
ugaozehka: they are dumped in the directory you run, iirc10:21
quixogreozekha, check the root directory. if not, there, look in the directory of the application thats crashing10:21
ozehkathomas_: ls?10:21
ozehkahere, depending the type, they have different colors...10:22
thomas_ozehka: using "tree" :S10:22
thomas_ozehka: that's for ls10:22
ozehkaah, that's a prog - sorry can't help10:22
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ozehkaquixogre: Ah, a file called "nautilus-debug-log.txt" was created10:25
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quixogre!paste | ozehka10:25
ubotuozehka: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:25
ozehkahmm, when i delete the file, it's created again :P10:25
ozehkaand its getting bigger and bigger...10:26
quixogrelet it get bigger then10:26
ozehkaits basically just containing lots of these lines:10:26
ozehka0x8187488 2007/09/27 21:21:21.5525 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 1110:26
ozehkai hope, you don't mind that i post this here in the channel - because i don't consider this as "large text"10:27
quixogrerun tail -f *filename* watch for lines that look like english10:27
ugaignore chinese ones ?=10:28
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quixogrehehe or hex ones ;)10:28
ozehkaenglish is only.. debug log dumped due to signal 1110:28
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ugamaybe a gdb traceback would provide more information?10:29
quixogrelol uga ya lost me. wassat?10:30
ugaquixogre: gdb is the gnu debugger. you run the application with "gdb appname"10:30
ozehkaits still growing and grwoing, already 5 mb :P10:30
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ugathen type "run" to execute it10:30
ugaand once it crashes, you type "bt" to get a backtrace10:30
ugathat should tell you what last functions the program went trhough, when it crashed10:31
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ugabut it needs debugging information compiled in for that10:31
ozehkaI'm gonna refresh XServer... brb10:31
quixogreuga, MIGHT work...but problem isnt with a specific program. ALL apps seem to be core dumping after a period of time10:31
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ugaquixogre: that might mean a bug in a very common library10:32
ugagdb should follow libraries etc10:32
ugaquixogre: does it happen with gui apps? only kde apps? also command line tools?10:32
ugawhat's that gets all those applications in common10:33
quixogreuga dont think so. is happening with firefox/other common apps, running on kubuntu 7.04 refreshing/restarting xwindows seems to stop it for a while10:33
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WoahWoahI went to search for a packet sniffer with Adept manager, went to install it and then went to "apply changes"10:33
WoahWoahdoes anyone know how I can open the program?10:33
ugaquixogre: okay, so it's possibly X related, rather than application related10:33
ugaquixogre: what driver?10:33
quixogreuga yeah. thinking so...10:34
uganv? nvidia? ati?10:34
quixogreuga: not sure, will have to wait for him to come back, and ask ;)10:34
ozehkai'm back :P10:34
ugaquixogre: btw, it's not only related to firefox apps, right?10:34
ugaie, firefox, thunderbird, ... *zilla10:34
anthronautWoahWoah: In adept, look up the program you've installed and click on "details", there you should be able to find something like "installed" files.10:34
ugaquixogre: oh, I thought it was yours, failing10:34
quixogresorry for caps10:35
stdinWoahWoah: depends what you installed, if it's a GUI it'd be in the KMenu, else it's a command line app10:35
ozehkauga: nope, firefox, videoplayers (totem, kaffeine), eclipse, ...10:35
anthronautWoahWoah: Then look for an entry like /bin/foo or /usr/bin/foo , where foo is the name of your program10:35
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WoahWoahThanks guys10:35
ugaozehka: what's the Xorg driver you are using?10:35
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ozehkabut would be much more probably ... these are just programs i frequently use10:35
ozehkauga: err... how to look up? :P10:35
WoahWoahHow do I search for entries anthronaut?10:35
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ugaozehka: edit /etc/Xorg.conf10:36
ugasorry no10:36
uga /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:36
anthronautWoahWoah: The same way you've searched for the files you wanted to install10:36
anthronautWoahWoah: Search: YourFileName and then hit Enter10:36
ozehkauga: i'll paste10:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:37
ugaozehka: not full =)10:37
anthronautWoahWoah: The program you've installed should be tagged "installed"10:37
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ugaozehka: uh?10:38
ugathat only shows the header  =)10:38
uganot the configuration10:38
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ozehkaah lol10:38
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ozehkaI thought you just need some version numbers :D10:38
ugait sounds like you're using the nvidia binary driver though?10:38
ozehkaso full :P10:38
ugaokay, that's all I was asking10:38
ugais it latest nvidia binary?10:38
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geniiuga: My p5k se still seems to be locking up sporadically ...bleh. Later tonight gonna swap out to an ASRock board someone gave me 2 of and see if it's any better, keep the Asus with another testing Feisty on it to work out the bugs.10:38
ugaozehka: and did you make sure it's not kubuntu's lrm driver that got loaded?10:39
ozehkauga: quite new10:39
ugaozehka: yes. it happens here  unless you uninstall linux-restricted-modules10:39
ugalrm drivers add their own nvidia before Xorg loads the proper one10:39
ozehkaah yes...10:39
ozehkabut nvidia logo is shown at startup10:39
ugagenii: ugh. Runs fine here, gutsy now10:40
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ugagenii: I haven't rebooted after the last kernel upgrade though10:40
robert__siemanolek :D10:40
WoahWoahOk it is anthronaut10:40
ugaozehka: lrm ones don't?10:40
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ozehkano idea :P10:40
WoahWoahWhen I search for the file though, where do I go to?10:40
quixogreafk again. smoke break10:40
soniaporAl gn spanish10:40
ugaozehka: easy test... from tty1: /etc/init.d/kdm stop. rmmod nvidia. /etc/init.d/kdm start10:41
ugathat should force loading the proper one10:41
ozehkauga: i just learned from some readme, when installing nvidia drivers, that if the logo was shown up, the installation was successfull10:41
ugasoniapor: entra en #kubuntu-es10:41
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ugasoniapor: si el canal est muerto, avisa, y me paso por all. Creo que es lo habitual ;)10:42
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manolosometimes the xserver uses a lower screen resolution after start up and I have to restart it to get my desired 1024x768 which is a little bit annoying :-/10:42
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ozehkauga: Could have warned me, that I'll be kicked out :P10:43
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ugaouch, I thought you knew10:43
ugathat stops kde's login manager... and the sessions opened by it10:43
ozehkaYes, when I read something about "kdm stop", I assumed something like that10:43
ugathe only way to rmmod (remove the module) nvidia module is stopping Xorg10:44
ugaelse it doesn't work10:44
ozehkaso now what?10:44
anthronautWoahWoah: wait a min10:44
ugaozehka: now at least we know you're using the nvidia binary driver you installed manually10:44
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ozehka(btw, I stopped kdm first - i was kicked out, kubuntu logo was shown, i pressed strg+alt+f1 to enter rmmod nvidia and kdm start)10:44
ugaozehka: are you using anything like beryl/compiz?10:45
ugaozehka: yup, that's right. I hope you run rmmod nvidia as root?10:45
ugaelse it'll have failed. I guess you did, else kdm stop wouldn't work either10:45
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anthronautWoahWoah: alright, when you've found the file in your list, there should be something like "Request Removal" and "Details" beneath the description, got that?10:45
ozehkaberyl/compiz: I installed sth like that i think...10:45
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ugaozehka: do you get anything like window shadows, wobly windows, translucent window decorations?10:46
anthronautWoahWoah: I've got the german translation, don't know the real words.10:46
ugaozehka: that's compiz/beryl10:46
ozehkayes I know what that is...10:46
ugabut it can be buggy. That's why I was asking10:46
ozehkaxgl i think10:46
ugayou don't need xgl to run beryl10:46
ugayou can do so on normal Xorg. xgl was rather unstable10:46
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ozehkawell, i think i can choose - kde, gnome or xgl10:47
ugaoh, weird since xgl isn't a desktop session type10:47
ozehkabut this is simple kde, no 3d, transparence, etc :-)10:47
emilsedghozehka: that methos, and xgl, are deprecated10:47
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WoahWoahOk anthronaut :p10:47
ugaozehka: okay... lets see if everything goes fine. Else it's possibly a bug in either xorg, or nvidia binary driver10:47
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ugaozehka: if it all goes fine, you'll have to remove the buggy lrm driver10:47
emilsedghozehka: AIGLX is now being used on X.org which doesnt need another new session10:47
anthronautWoahWoah: right, click on "details"10:48
geniiuga: I thought at first overheating but it's not. RH with the Asus rpms work fine, i may do some Alien chroot on them and see if a deb could be made10:48
ugagenii:  22:48:48 up 4 days,  2:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.0410:48
ozehkauga: Just tell me what to do ^^10:49
ugagenii: what cpu?10:49
anthronautWoahWoah: Then you can choose between some options and "installed files"10:49
ugagenii: Core2 quad 2.44, here10:49
WoahWoahYes anthronaut10:49
ugagenii: and the 4gig corsair mem modules I mentioned10:49
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ugagenii: also, running 64bit gutsy10:49
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geniiuga: I/ve tried 2 different ones now. First was Pentium D 935 (Dual 3.2 cores) Second was Core2 Duo 6300 (dual 1.6 64 bit cores)10:50
ugaI wonder if any of those are different and might affect you10:50
anthronautWoahWoah: Ok, then, under "installed files" you'll find all the locations of the files that adept installed for you. Look for an entry like /bin/xyz or /usr/bin/xyz10:50
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ugaozehka: well, you need to test it. Does it get buggy easily?10:50
geniiuga: I'm using OCZ DDR2-800, 500Gb Seagate SATA2 drive10:50
geniiuga: You put a secondary video in there?10:51
ugaozehka: ie, try to reproduce the problem. If you can't anymore, then it's the lrm problem, and apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules10:51
ugagenii: no, just a single video card, 8500gx. Actually, where can you plug a second card on this thing10:51
ozehkaah i see10:52
ugagenii: that's something I was wondering. I get all confused with these pci express things =)10:52
ozehkajust remove? ;-P10:52
geniiuga: I'm thinking my video card may be the issue. PCI-E NVidia 7600 GT...I disabled the onboard10:52
WoahWoahanthronaut: I can use the search facility to search for files10:52
anthronautWoahWoah: What's the name of your program?10:53
geniiuga: Heh :) Same spot as on AGP boards, last one next to power supply side10:53
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uga|awaygenii: sorry, the rj45 cable is loose...10:54
uga|awaygenii: 8500gt here. What I wonder is if you can actually have two gfx cards for twin video, or you need to use double output one10:54
uga|awaydoes the 7600 have a twin output?10:55
WoahWoahJust uninstalled them anthronaut10:55
WoahWoahWould you recommend any programs?10:55
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geniiuga|away: I have a twin-head DVI (Nvidia 7600 GT) I diabled my onboard for now10:55
ugaokay, that explains10:55
ugaI believe the 8500 can do twin only through dvi+crt10:55
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uganot two through dvi10:55
WoahWoahI'm quite new to this KUbuntu10:55
anthronautWoahWoah: programs to do what?10:56
geniiwork, BRB10:56
ugagenii: cya10:56
WoahWoahNetwork Tools anthronaut10:56
WoahWoahBy the way thanks for your help10:56
quixogreWoahWoah: wireshark10:56
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anthronautWoahWoah: network tools to do what exactly?10:56
PhinnFortrrbiz: right click on the battery and click "restore"10:56
ugaWoahWoah: traceroute10:57
poison--llo guys10:57
=== poison-- sends a brazilian hottie to genii
WoahWoahIt seems I've downloaded one already (before)10:58
ugapoison--: that's not fair10:58
WoahWoahI can use that on the shell can I not uga? :p10:58
ugapoison--: I want another one =(10:58
ugaWoahWoah: yup10:58
=== poison-- sends 2 hotties to uga
poison--uga rules :D10:58
ugathat's better =)10:58
geniipoison--: That and a coffee and I'm all set :)10:58
poison--sup buds?10:59
poison--tomorrow im gonna quit windows for good here at work10:59
quixogreWoahWoah: sudo apt-get wireshark ... its a GUI tool for monitoring/testing network traffic10:59
ugagenii: I'll make coffee when I finish... you're invited to come over... 3 is better than two ;)10:59
WoahWoahOk, I've located a file I downloaded, and when I go to open it nothing seems to happen10:59
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poison--setting up a machine running virtualbox so i can use the damn progries to make unatend windows cds10:59
rrbizklaptop isn't saving my performance profile, is there a .conf or something that i can make it stick ?10:59
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thomas_why won't this WORK! rename ../richmondhill/annex annex211:00
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quixogrethomas_: what error you getting?11:00
thomas_quixogre: none lol11:01
thomas_but it doesn't show its changed11:01
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quixogredo ls. does annex2 show up?11:01
zyp1I wonder, in the gutsy, is it dolphin or d3plhin? and what version, and is it udated?11:02
ugash33tlphin ;)11:03
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geniiuga: and how far again is that from toronto?11:03
thomas_isn't this the proper sytax: rename file file111:03
quixogrethomas, yup11:03
ugagenii: how good are you at swimming straight in atlantic strength water forces?11:03
quixogreor try mv file file111:04
ugazyp1: 0.9.211:04
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thomas_I get no error and dir shows the same name11:05
geniiuga: Guess you'll have to keep the coffeepot warm for a while....11:05
zyp1ok... thanks11:05
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ugagenii: the hotties poison-- sent me will help keeping it warm ;)11:05
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WoahWoahThanks for your help anthronaut11:06
anthronautWoahWoah: you're welcome!11:06
quixogredangit, how do i subscribe to this brazilian hotties list???11:07
ugaanyway, lets keep on topic. Else tonight I'll have nightmares of apt-get installing brazillian hotties ;)11:07
ScorpKingwelcome poison-- :D11:07
poison--heeeeeyyyyyyyyyy ScorpKing11:07
ScorpKinghow goes?11:07
poison--apt-get installing brazillian hotties  <---- rox11:08
thomas_"Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"11:08
stdin!ot | stdin is watching you11:08
ubotustdin is watching you: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:08
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thomas_whats that mean?11:09
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ugathomas_: that you can't talk about brazilian gals, unless konqueror crashes when displaying them and you got to report a problem11:10
poison--means freddy is comin for u11:10
thomas_what? no my problem: "Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"11:11
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ugauhm. That system tray application checking for updates... it only warns about security updates?11:11
ugabecause it doesn't turn up most of the times here, when there are new packs11:11
geniiuga: I'm pretty sure it's criteria is set ti critical instead of all the updates11:12
ugathomas_: I don't think the comment was targetted at you...11:12
quixogret?homas, what are you typing to get that message11:13
ugagenii: ah cheers11:13
Juacom99hey quiox (Y)11:13
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quixogrehola juacom :)11:13
thomas_rename example example211:13
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Juacom99how is texas today??11:14
ugathomas_: rename works with regular expressions, afaik11:14
thomas_quixogre: huh?11:14
ugathomas_: if you want to rename a file, you just "mv example example2"11:14
quixogrethomas_: try mv example example111:15
newsense07whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?11:15
newsense07whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?11:15
Juacom99a lan11:15
Juacom99with a router11:15
thomas_quixogre: why doesn't rename work?11:15
quixogrenewsense07: a hub. 20 bucks at best buy11:15
uganewsense07: an adsl router with several rj45 connectors?11:15
newsense07i got a switch and 2 network cards in this computer11:16
newsense07im connected to a wireless network but dont have physical access and have a computer with no wifi card11:16
Juacom99but switches don't shear an adsl dosn't it??11:16
quixogrethomas_: renames a perl command. stick with mv11:16
ugathomas_: "man rename"11:17
ugawill show you what it does11:17
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newsense07i understand networking but just dont know how to route incoming packets on eth0 to go through wifi0 connected to a wireless router11:17
newsense07never had to do it in linux11:17
thomas_quixogre: ty11:17
ugathomas_: it takes multiple files and renames them replacing certain content in their name. The replacement is defined by a perl regular expression11:17
uganot the easiest command to use ;)11:18
ScorpKingif i do sudo cp -rp ../../home/* /mnt/mylaptop/ (nfs dir) i get "cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/mylaptop/ecc': Permission denied" :( what's wrong? can't root copy to nfs?11:18
stdinnewsense07: use firestarter, it has a GUI to do that11:18
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newsense07stdin: thank you very ,much11:18
quixogreScorpKing: think nfs has its own ownership/permissions11:19
ugaheh, it should11:19
ScorpKinghuh? ls -l /mnt/mylaptop/ and i own the files.11:19
ugaelse it'd be a real nice vulnerability ;)11:19
ScorpKingso what now?11:20
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ugaScorpKing: does the remote nfs server allow write access?11:20
quixogreotherwise any jacka$$ with a laptop could plugin to the network with a laptop running redhat, and pwn all the nfs drives11:20
ScorpKingto me yea11:20
bradleyQuick question in the lull, Does anyone have an nvidia 8500gt with hd (hdmi) output (not DVI) working?11:20
ScorpKingit only allow acces to my ip11:20
ugabradley: sorry, vga output here11:21
quixogreScorpKing: how are you authenticating with the remote nfs server?11:22
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ScorpKinguhm, /mnt/hdb1/data,sync) that's in the exports file11:22
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ScorpKingand all the files on there being owned by uid 100011:23
quixogreScorpKing: not sure of the exact syntax, but you need to set read/write/execute permissions in there too11:23
ScorpKingi have all those11:23
ScorpKingit only fails when i use sudo11:24
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quixogreahhh okay. yeah. roots power is only on the machine your physically on11:24
quixogreroot doesnt have root priviledges on an NFS drive11:24
quixogrefor security purposes11:25
ugaScorpKing: "If I were to hazard a guess I'd say it's more to do with your nfs than sudo. Most NFS servers disallow root to write them"11:25
ugafrom sudo users forum11:25
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ScorpKinghow do i enable or fix that.11:25
quixogrehehe not real sure you SHOULD fix that....11:26
ScorpKingit's only me on the box. :) backups11:26
ugaScorpKing: http://www.gratisoft.us/pipermail/sudo-users/2005-December/002697.html11:26
ugathat's what could be a solution, pointed out as answer11:26
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poison--so sweet using flashfxp with wine11:26
quixogreScorpKing: meh. it sounds like a gaping security issue to me....11:27
Daisuke_Idopoison--: i fail to see how wine is sweet under any circumstances, but hey, whatever trips your trigger11:27
ScorpKingthanks guys. yeah, i don't need security here. my biggest worry is someone breaking in and stealing it.11:27
ugapoison--: lemme know if you make wine work under x6411:28
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poison--<Daisuke_Ido, eva tried to use FlashFXP with Linux?11:29
poison--i need to use it all day long11:29
poison--so.. before i install virtualbox, im usin wine11:29
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poison--and its sweet dat i can actually use any win appz running kubuntu11:29
quixogreim trying to set up a virtual machine on my linux drive, using my xp partition for the data/etc...any recommendation on what to use/where to start? someone mentioned VMware, but cant figure out how to apt-get it11:31
quixogre!vmware |me11:31
ubotume: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers11:31
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