[12:38] <ScorpKing> well, got it. it should be - Exec=kdesu "mount -o loop" "" "/media/iso" just for the record. :D
[12:39] <BluesKaj> what is ScorpKing ?
[12:39] <ScorpKing> service menu to mount iso images. works great
[12:39] <yeo_> played with iPod touch the other day. nice
[12:39] <stdin> hmm, now why do that sound familiar ScorpKing...
[12:39] <mefisto_> ScorpKing: like kiso
[12:40] <stdin> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[12:40] <r0y4l> is there a kde tool to tile windows side by side?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> the isofilename goes where the quotes are ?
[12:40] <ScorpKing> the service menu in kiso don't work on my box. :(
[12:40] <stdin> ScorpKing: mine should ^
[12:40] <ScorpKing> for kiso*
[12:41] <Jucato> this is the second time I see people using """""" to indicate where the filename would go :)
[12:41] <ScorpKing> don't know where all the """"" comes from. should be % U there
[12:42] <Jucato> yep
[12:42] <Jucato> %u or
[12:42] <ScorpKing> must be konversation
[12:42] <Jucato> %u or %U
[12:42] <Jucato> yeah
[12:42] <Jucato> %U = underline
[12:42] <ScorpKing> underline text
[12:42] <Jucato> see?
[12:42] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:43] <Jucato> ScorpKing: you need to use % % U to display %U
[12:44] <ScorpKing> ah. will remember. hopefully :)
[12:45] <Jucato> works 	with the	 others, too
[12:45] <ScorpKing> stdin: that link would have helped a lot about 25 minutes ago. thanks anyway.
[12:46] <stdin> ScorpKing: I wasn't here 25 mins ago :)
[12:46] <ScorpKing> lol. i know
[12:46] <Jucato> didn't you do a search in kde-apps first?
[12:46] <stdin> ScorpKing: it'll show you how to construct the mount command tho
[12:47] <Juacom99> hey
[12:47] <ScorpKing> i did search. that's how i figured out how to get it working. :)
[12:48] <ScorpKing> stdin: how long have you been using linux? you always seem to have a solution for most of my problems. :D
[12:49] <ti-gris> I want to reinstall kubuntu on my second hard drive... I would guess that my hdb would be the one I'm using right now because it got the / and the swap partition....but on my other hard drive I got a /proc.....do I need this partition ?
[12:49] <stdin> ScorpKing: heh, I guess about 11 years now, since I was 10 anyway
[12:49] <Jucato> (probably much longer than linux existed)
[12:49] <Jucato> told yah
[12:49] <ScorpKing> stdin: lol. a lot longer than me.
[12:49] <Jucato> *a lot* longer than me too
[12:50] <ScorpKing> Jucato: there was unix :P
[12:50] <stdin> what can I say, I never liked windows :)
[12:50] <yeo_> stdin: lol
[12:50] <stdin> ti-gris: /proc isn't a partition, it's a pseudo filesystem that only exists in memory
[12:50] <ScorpKing> i only found out not too long ago that there was linux. heh
[12:51] <yeo_> i didnt use linux for like two months. and the amount of progress that it makes whenever ive taken a break from it is astounding
[12:51] <Neil3> but rh 5.1 sucked
[12:51] <yeo_> especially in the 3d compositing stuff like compiz
[12:51] <_gtt_> anyone have any success specifying orientation for dual display arrangements in xorg.conf?
[12:52] <yeo_> _gtt_: i used nvidia config
[12:52] <ti-gris> thank you stdin
[12:52] <ScorpKing> dual display. i need that. one for laptop and one for the tv.
[12:52] <ScorpKing> but i don't have nvidia
[12:52] <_gtt_> yeo_: last time i used it broke my install.
[12:53] <yeo_> you should be able to restore the previous settings. nvidia config makes  backup of xorg.conf
[12:53] <_gtt_> kind of avoiding it since it's so close to perfect (just need to know what in xorg.conf to change for orientation... mine doesn't specify anything, so i guess some crazy default ?
[12:53] <_gtt_> i might try it again...
[12:54] <yeo_> just make your own backup of xorg.conf
[12:54] <yeo_> then if it goes fubar just use a tty to restore the config file
[12:54] <Juacom99> hi peopel
[12:54] <yeo_> lo
[12:54] <_gtt_> any way of getting xine to play ISO files?
[12:55] <ScorpKing> mount them first
[12:55] <Izhevsk> Hello. Help please install video drivers (Nvidia).
[12:55] <_gtt_> i was afraid of that.
[12:55] <ScorpKing> _gtt_: i just wrote something to do just that, the easy way :D
[12:55] <Jucato> (heh)
[12:56] <Juacom99> sorry i ask an offtopic queistion but... someone know a good rol irc i cen connect??
[12:56] <mefisto_> _gtt_: try stdin's script
[12:56] <yeo_> Izhevsk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:56] <Juacom99> *can
[12:56] <_gtt_> i already got an alias for mounting an iso... so i guess i could just extend that.
[12:56] <odemata> to install nvidia drivers type  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[12:56] <stdin> _gtt_: apps like kaffiene can play ISOs already
[12:57] <_gtt_> i can't get kaffeine to do it.
[12:57] <_gtt_> some kind of trick?
[12:57] <_gtt_> i think mplayer does though
[12:57] <yeo_> _gtt_: try xine dvd: filename.iso
[12:57] <stdin> _gtt_: you have to open URL as  dvd:///path/to/file.iso
[12:57] <_gtt_> ah
[12:57] <_gtt_> what a bitch
[12:57] <_gtt_> lemme try that
[12:57] <Juacom99> sorry i ask an offtopic queistion but... someone know a good rol irc i can connect??
[12:58] <vlt> Anyone here using Kubuntu Feisty w/o Konqueror crashing who could tell me how to achieve this?
[12:58] <ghozala> hi i want a p2p file sharing program like ares or limewire works on kubuntu
[12:59] <yeo_> ghozala: kubuntu comes with ktorrent
[12:59] <stdin> Juacom99: ask in #kubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic or google, not here
[12:59] <Juacom99> is there an ares for kubuntu :|???
[12:59] <yeo_> you can also install azureus
[12:59] <WarteX> can someone help me how to play avi, xvid files in ubuntu.. i have vlc and many other players, but i just quits
[12:59] <mefisto_> amule?
[12:59] <Juacom99> ok thnaks stdin
[12:59] <odemata_> try limewire or frost wire
[12:59] <ghozala> yup is emule avliable for linux
[12:59] <yeo_> frost wire is a good one yes
[01:00] <mefisto_> ghozala: there's amule
[01:00] <Izhevsk> yeo_: THX!
[01:00] <ghozala> realy
[01:00] <Juacom99> is there an ares??
[01:00] <yeo_> no worries man
[01:00] <BluesKaj> WarteX,  install libxine-extracodecs & w32codecs
[01:01] <odemata_> havent seen a ares but frostwire connects to the same network i think
[01:01] <mefisto_> ghozala: but try ktorrent. it should already be installed in kubuntu
[01:01] <Juacom99> same chat network too??
[01:01] <yeo_> and then with ktorrent i reccomend www.thepiratebay.org
[01:01] <ghozala> ok but is ktorrent have sreach machhine for mp3s or videos
[01:02] <yeo_> yes it has an inbuilt search. it just searches torrent aggregation sites tho
[01:02] <yeo_> saves you doing it via a browser
[01:02] <odemata_> no chating in frostwire  http://www.frostwire.com/
[01:02] <yeo_> the site i  reccomended is nice tho
[01:02] <ScorpKing> _gtt_: still here?
[01:03] <_gtt_> yeah
[01:03] <_gtt_> can't get it to work
[01:03] <Lega> 'ello.
[01:03] <_gtt_> makes me wonder if something else is going on though
[01:03] <yeo_> what you tryin 2 do gtt?
[01:03] <ScorpKing> _gtt_: this is what i just did. - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38735/
[01:03] <vlt> Wha does this SIGSEGV error mean I get from Konqueror all the time?
[01:03] <odemata_> sorry correction you can chat.
[01:04] <_gtt_> checking it ScorpKing
[01:04] <mefisto_> _gtt_: is everything set up to play dvd's?
[01:04] <vlt> What*
[01:04] <_gtt_> maybe not.
[01:04] <_gtt_> *shrug*
[01:04] <WarteX> tnx, but it played movies like 4 days ago, now it just quits.. i dont understand.. i think it happendes after i installed compiz-fusion
[01:04] <yeo_> libdvdcss2 - install that
[01:04] <_gtt_> xine says it doesn't recognize the format
[01:04] <yeo_> WarteX: what program you using to play them?
[01:05] <stdin> ScorpKing: you actually don't need all those quotes, the Exec: line doesn't break with spaces. you can even put more than one command separated with ;
[01:05] <_gtt_> already installed
[01:05] <yeo_> and libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs are installed?
[01:05] <WarteX> i try, vlc, wgine, kmplayer ++
[01:05] <WarteX> same happens to everyone of them
[01:05] <yeo_> you get the same error with them all?
[01:05] <ScorpKing> thanks stdin. it still works tho. will try that later. lol
[01:05] <Juacom99> what the hell i'm downloadin at 45.5. never in my life i download that fast
[01:05] <stdin> _gtt_: try just "dvd:/path/to/file.iso"
[01:06] <WarteX> yes, extracodex got installed, but i got this error with w32, it says that it points to another prog
[01:06] <yeo_> Juacom99: lol. you should get on usenet my friend
[01:06] <yeo_> Juacom99: www.giganews.com
[01:06] <Juacom99> what's that??
[01:06] <yeo_> Juacom99: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
[01:07] <Juacom99> lol
[01:07] <WarteX> yes, i cant see any spesific error message, it just quits
[01:07] <yeo_> giganews is a usenet provider
[01:07] <_gtt_> awesome
[01:07] <Juacom99> sorry i'm new
[01:07] <Juacom99> that mean.....
[01:07] <_gtt_> it works when i use control-o from caffeine and put the dvd:///folder/name/file.name.iso
[01:07] <yeo_> Juacom99: im relatively new man. here to help where i can
[01:07] <odemata_> one could try this for file sharing http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2601/google_search_divshare_for_free_music_videos_and_archives
[01:07] <ScorpKing> we're all new at some stage...
[01:07] <Juacom99> thanks
[01:08] <Juacom99> sorry i must reset
[01:08] <odemata_> it uses google to search
[01:08] <stdin> _gtt_: be nice is there was an easy way tho :)
[01:08] <Juacom99> my kubuntu installation finish
[01:08] <_gtt_> yeah... maybe the script for mounting is easier?
[01:08] <yeo_> Juacom99: okay. cross your fingers and it should boot okay ;)
[01:08] <Juacom99> lol
[01:08] <ScorpKing> Juacom99: welcome to the world of kubuntu. :D
[01:08] <_gtt_> err.. extending my alias
[01:08] <Juacom99> i already had kubuntu
[01:09] <Juacom99> but i reinstal windows
[01:09] <stdin> _gtt_: my script does that with a nice GUI and service menus </plug>
[01:09] <Juacom99> and the SO selection windows didn's apear any nmore
[01:09] <yeo_> ahhhh
[01:09] <yeo_> thats bum
[01:09] <ScorpKing> stdin: i don't think he's got the link.
[01:10] <stdin> link: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[01:10] <stdin> :)
[01:10] <Juacom99> yep i reinstall bouth :S
[01:10] <ScorpKing> :)
[01:10] <tsb> Hello. I am using dualhead on my KDE 3.5.7 setup and every time I start kmail now, kwin crashes on that head (not the other screen). Any idea whats wrong?
[01:10] <yeo_> there is a way of installing grub so you dont have to but it seems scary#
[01:10] <odemata_> has anybody tried pc-bsd and compared it to kubuntu?
[01:10] <mefisto_> there's a DVD ISO IMAGE filter in kaffeine's open dialog
[01:10] <ScorpKing> _gtt_: use the one from stdin. it more clever than mine. :P
[01:10] <yeo_> tsb: are you using two separate X sessions (one per screen) or Xinerama?
[01:11] <Juacom99> a fiend toll me it was a way
[01:11] <tsb> yeo_: not xinerama 2 seperate screens
[01:11] <Juacom99> but reintsalin was faster :)
[01:11] <yeo_> :)
[01:11] <stdin> odemata_: BSD is not Linux
[01:11] <Juacom99> i use it for less dthan aweek before reinstaling XP
[01:11] <purpleposeidon> I'll give a dollar to someone who pulls off sudo apt-get install *
[01:11] <_gtt_> going to eat.
[01:11] <_gtt_> thanks for your help
[01:11] <_gtt_> later
[01:11] <Juacom99> so i did't have much programs an d files
[01:11] <yeo_> lal
[01:11] <WarteX> tnx for help anyways =)
[01:11] <BluesKaj> stdin, I'm trying to copy the script to the /bin/ file as directed but the the /bin file won't accept it
[01:12] <Juacom99> well
[01:12] <Juacom99> brb
[01:12] <odemata_> right i know its a unix derivative, but i wanted to know how does it compare to kubuntu
[01:12] <Juacom99> cya
[01:12] <tsb> yeo_: And if I restart kwin it autoexplodes again if kmail is open.
[01:12] <stdin> BluesKaj: there is a deb, it's easier to use that, or the installer script I included
[01:13] <BluesKaj> stdin, does it install to the right dir tho ?
[01:13] <yeo_> tsb: i dont really know much about that. have you looked into forums/irc for kmail?
[01:13] <yeo_> it might be a known issue
[01:13] <tsb> yeo_: #kde pointed me this way :)
[01:14] <stdin> BluesKaj: the installer script will install system-wide or for your user, you can choose :)
[01:14] <tsb> yeo_: to be sure, I'll log out, turn off dualhead and see if the problem is still there, beb
[01:14] <BluesKaj> ok thx stdin , good
[01:15] <mefisto_> stdin: sounds like you've done a nice job!
[01:15] <stdin> feedback on it is welcome too
[01:16] <mefisto_> I'll go get it and try it out
[01:16] <TameLion> off to bed.. night all! o/
[01:16] <yeo_> nigh5t
[01:17] <yeo_> stdin: you program stuff other than shell scripts?
[01:17] <stdin> yeo_: I'm learning C++ right now
[01:17] <yeo_> me too :)
[01:17] <yeo_> im actually trying to port a crappy dos app i made to linux right now
[01:18] <odemata_> when the kubuntu comes out will it include the latest verison of kde?
[01:19] <odemata_> *next
[01:19] <ScorpKing> so am i. loaded thinking i c++ into ktouch. two in one. lol, have to port a dos app as well. :)
[01:19] <yeo_> i believe so
[01:19] <stdin> gusty will have kde 3.5.7 yes
[01:19] <odemata_> ok. but not 4?
[01:19] <yeo_> 4 isnt finalised yet
[01:19] <yeo_> beta version right now i think?
[01:19] <stdin> odemata_: kde4 isn't out yet, won't be untill at least december
[01:20] <yeo_> compiz fusion will be included apparently
[01:20] <yeo_> (which is awesome)
[01:20] <odemata_> when 4 comes out how can you upgrade to it
[01:20] <yeo_> using apt i assume
[01:20] <odemata_> yes ive seen it. very good
[01:20] <stdin> odemata_: there will be packages available, like the ones for the beta2
[01:21] <odemata_> great. i hope it will put vista to shame
[01:21] <yeo_> vista is a shit
[01:21] <stdin> watch the language in here :)
[01:21] <odemata_> i know. the worst
[01:22] <joaquin> hey i'm back :)
[01:22] <odemata_> that's what promted me to move to linux
[01:22] <odemata_> since it was longhorn i never liked it
[01:23] <yeo_> the only OS i use are Mac OSX and linux
[01:23] <yeo_> run my games in cedega or vmware fusion
[01:23] <juacom99> waht's your game name?? :O
[01:24] <yeo_> locrian
[01:24] <yeo_> i play eve online and cs source
[01:24] <juacom99> :o i'll google it
[01:24] <stdin> ScorpKing: I made it because I wanted something to just loop mount files, nothing else. and it's light on resources as it's just a pretty shell script :)
[01:24] <yeo_> you'll get a load of crap about scales and #4's ;)
[01:25] <ScorpKing> stdin: i like it. there's a lot one can learn from it. :)
[01:25] <mefisto_> stdin: your script auto opens the folder after mount, but doesn't seem to like the space in "New Folder"
[01:26] <juacom99> mmm 10 pages of locrian :S
[01:26] <yeo_> so you booted successfully juacom?
[01:26] <stdin> mefisto_: hmm, that should be an easy fix
[01:27] <juacom99> yep np
[01:27] <yeo_> sweet
[01:27] <juacom99> does you game have a page
[01:27] <yeo_> if you want some fun check out compiz fusion ;)
[01:27] <yeo_> what you mean?
[01:27] <juacom99> or anywhere i can download it??
[01:27] <ScorpKing> google.com
[01:27] <juacom99> i did
[01:27] <mefisto_> stdin: that's why I mention it. also, can you get the servicemenu to auto install for dolphin too (if present)?
[01:27] <juacom99> [20:26]  <yeo_> so you booted successfully juacom?
[01:28] <juacom99> sotty taht wasn not the quot
[01:28] <juacom99> [20:26]  <juacom99> mmm 10 pages of locrian :S
[01:28] <juacom99> tha one XD
[01:28] <stdin> mefisto_: I'll have to look at dolphin to see where it does that. but it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)
[01:29] <ScorpKing> i should get to bed. nite guys.
[01:29] <juacom99> good night
[01:31] <yeo_> nite
[01:31] <MacZtttlkwork> Hi! Does anybody know about a good iso mounting tool? I have downloaded mount -iso 0.9.1 from kde-apps.org but the installer didn't work.
[01:31] <stdin> *cough* http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> whoops
[01:32] <MacZtttlkwork> thanks stdin...
[01:33] <MacZtttlkwork> I did a top rated search... and the other had better marks tough.
[01:33] <MacZtttlkwork> though
[01:33] <stdin> then vote for mine to get it a higher rating :p
[01:33] <Jucato> but look at the author of that script and the person who suggested it to you
[01:34] <BluesKaj> jucato.....now now :)
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> omg
[01:34] <Jucato> :)
[01:34] <Jucato> stdin: you didn't put up a screenshot?
[01:34] <MacZtttlkwork> I'll put my vote as fast as I try the program ;-)
[01:35] <tsb> Okay; I just turned off dualhead and kmail keeps crashing so it isn't that. A few days ago I installed KDE manually to /usr/local/kde-svn, but I'm guessing it is somehow related; I'd like to just reinstall kde from kubuntu, I did a sudo aptitude reinstall kdelibs kdelibs-data bdebase kdebase-bin kdepim, but it is still there. any packages I should try to reinstall?
[01:35] <Jucato> vote if it works of course :)
[01:35] <stdin> Jucato: no, I just haven't got around to it yet
[01:37] <tsb> So this is what happens: I start kmail and kwin crashes. kmail doesn't really crash itself.
[01:38] <tsb> I'd do aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop but that would only reinstall the metapackage I guess
[01:43] <mefisto_> stdin: how do I unmount?
[01:44] <stdin> mefisto_: start mountfile and choose unmount
[01:44] <stdin> KMenu > Utilities > Mount File
[01:44] <mefisto_> doesn't find the mount. I mounted from the servicemenu
[01:45] <stdin> should still find it...  what's in ~/.mount ?
[01:46] <mefisto_> stdin: nothing
[01:46] <stdin> odd
[01:47] <lubos> hello, is it safe to upgrade postgres 7.4 to 8.1 ? what are the steps to achieve it? do I have to remove postgresql 7.4 first? thank you
[01:47] <ghozala> hay how can i install an hp printer
[01:47] <stdin> ohh, I think i see what happened...
[01:47] <Jucato> 8.1?
[01:47] <stdin> mefisto_: it's bug day for me :p  you'll have to unmount manually for now until I fix that (give me a few mins)
[01:47] <Jucato> lubos: you are talking about Kubuntu versions?
[01:48] <Jucato> :D
[01:48] <MacZtttlkwork> stdin
[01:48] <MacZtttlkwork> do I have to run as root?
[01:48] <ghozala> hay how can i install an hp printer
[01:48] <ghozala> hay how can i install an hp printer
[01:48] <ghozala> hay how can i install an hp printer
[01:48] <Jucato> !printers | ghozala
[01:48] <ubotu> ghozala: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:48] <Jucato> !patience | ghozala
[01:48] <ubotu> ghozala: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:48] <lubos> Jucato: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[01:49] <stdin> MacZtttlkwork: no, you can install it as root but then it will ask you for your password when it needs to use sudo (kdesu)
[01:49] <MacZtttlkwork> An hp printer is suppossed to be installed quite easily...
[01:49] <MacZtttlkwork> stdin but when the dialog asks me for the destination...
[01:49] <ghozala> i am sorry but i have research must be prited and thank u all
[01:49] <Jucato> lubos: there's no 8.10 version yet. that will be released October of 2008
[01:49] <MacZtttlkwork> I click in my home folder "create folder" and it says I have no permissions :S
[01:50] <snatch> MOin
[01:50] <lubos> Jucato: postgresql-8.1 - object-relational SQL database, version 8.1 server | apt-cache search
[01:50] <Jucato> lubos: the most current version is 7.04. the next version to be released is 7.10 which is next month. 7.10 = 2007, 10th month = 2007 October
[01:50] <Jucato> aaah ok
[01:50] <Jucato> lol sorry
[01:50] <lubos> Jucato: I mean postgresql version
[01:50] <Jucato> (what a coincidence that the numbers are slightly similar)
[01:51] <stdin> MacZtttlkwork: can you create a folder in konqueror/dolpgin to test? mountfile actually doesn't create the directory, it calls kdialog to do that
[01:51] <MacZtttlkwork> ok I'll see... wait a sec
[01:51] <Jucato> lubos: it *should* be available as an upgrade to an existing version, and you don't have to remove the previous version.
[01:51] <Jucato> that's how updates normally work
[01:51] <MacZtttlkwork> omg
[01:51] <MacZtttlkwork> I know the error...
[01:51] <MacZtttlkwork> my hd is full
[01:51] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[01:51] <stdin> heh :p
[01:52] <stdin> that one thing you _can't_ blame on me :)
[01:52] <lubos> Jucato: so I just go apt-get install postgresql-8.1 and that is all ;-) ?
[01:52] <MacZtttlkwork> Hope in KDE 4 there will be more... information about such things... sometimes you don't realise and it can be really annoying lol
[01:52] <Jucato> stdin: you have experience with postgresql ^^^
[01:52] <stdin> Jucato: nope
[01:53] <Jucato> lubos: you mean it's not available as an upgrade but as a separate package?
[01:53] <lubos> yes there are two packages...
[01:53] <Jucato> oh...
[01:53] <Jucato> now that's a bit more... um.. complicated :P
[01:54] <lubos> Jucato: :-)
[01:55] <BlueVette> Hello.
[01:55] <Murchadh> Anyone installed webmin in kubuntu 7.04? Not in the repos?
[01:55] <Jucato> !webmin
[01:55] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[01:55] <MacZtttlkwork> stdin: LOL, I was also wondering why frostwire didn't work...........because the hard disk was full!! And the program asked me to sent a bug report to the programmers :P
[01:56] <Murchadh> Thanks Jucato!
[01:56] <Jucato> MacZtttlkwork: just hope that the bug report you sent doesn't say "Not working, Disk Full" :D
[01:56] <BlueVette> Here's a strange one:  Friend picked up a 2gb Firefly (Lexar) usb device.  Started copying files over...  and after 124 files copied, it kept failing to write to the device, unless a file was first removed.  KDiskFree and meta-info on the device said 1.4GB free, but was acting full.  So, made a folder, moved the files into it, and then was able to continue adding files......  ever hear of that before?
[01:56] <truth> Whats the best burning programs for Kubuntu?
[01:57] <Jucato> truth: k3b
[01:57] <Jucato> !best
[01:57] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> truth, depends on what you want to burn
[01:57] <mefisto_> but really, k3b is best for burning isn't it?
[01:58] <mefisto_> or commandline
[01:58] <MacZtttlkwork> Jucato: lol!
[01:58] <MacZtttlkwork> well I have to sleep... bye!
[01:58] <BluesKaj> tovid is great for avi to dvd , k3b is great for iso and audio
[01:59] <truth> Is there anything like Nero available?
[02:00] <mefisto_> k3b is like nero
[02:00] <truth> I mainly burn .iso dvd's and audio
[02:00] <BluesKaj> there's nero-linux but it sucks ...k3b is better
[02:00] <Jucato> at least on Linux, K3b is better than Nero
[02:00] <BlueVette> K3b is nice.
[02:00] <kkathman> Nero is just confusing
[02:00] <Jucato> truth: K3b can do those
[02:00] <BlueVette> I prefer it to Nero
[02:00] <truth> Gonna get k3b then, Mucho Gracias
[02:01] <mefisto_> k3b has never failed me once. try it truth
[02:01] <mefisto_> truth: should be installed already
[02:01] <yeo_> installed by default with kubu
[02:01] <Jucato> it failed to make me coffee though
[02:01] <Jucato> so I don't think k3b is the best :P
[02:01] <truth> Ok. lol@coffee
[02:02] <ghozala> i cant find my hp printer through the list of drivers what can i do
[02:03] <mefisto_> ghozala: you could try one that sounds similar and see if it works
[02:03] <zengen1> Does anyone know of a linux irc client that is comparable to mIRC with autoget.  I've messed a few of the XChat scripts, but none really do anything.  The Zeus script looked to be somewhat close but hell if I can get it work.
[02:03] <truth> what about avi to dvd? i need to convert to mp4 first eh?
[02:03] <ghozala> ok i will thanks
[02:04] <Jucato> truth: you'll need to convert it to mpeg.. but try BluesKaj's advice about tovid
[02:05] <mikeh66> Will K3b run on kubu 64
[02:05] <Jucato> afaik, yes
[02:05] <mefisto_> truth: mandvd does it too I think, and is very easy to use
[02:05] <mikeh66> I will look it up
[02:09] <sainzeo_> i recently replaced the linux driver for my atheros wireless card with a windows one using ndiswrapper - it is now causing lockups, how do i revert back?
[02:10] <ghozala> hay i ve tried all models no one able to print test page
[02:11] <zengen1> sainzeo: I was having that problem.  Making sure the kernel headers were updated fixed my problem.
[02:11] <sainzeo_> zengen1: do you remember the command to do that?
[02:12] <zengen1> sudo apt-get update then sudu apt-get upgrade should do it.
[02:14] <sainzeo_> zengen1: i'm already running the latest headers i believe: 2.6.20-16
[02:16] <mikeh66> I tried to download flash player, but it asked me which of the three I wanted
[02:16] <mefisto_> does anyone know if the coloured nicks in konversation means anything? or is it just random colours for different nicks?
[02:16] <zengen1> I'm not sure then.  Have you tried ubuntuforums.org?
[02:16] <mikeh66> not yet
[02:17] <robin> whats new
[02:17] <zengen1> Mikeh66: That was for someone else.  What are the three it offers?
[02:18] <Jucato> mefisto_: random. except for your own
[02:18] <Jucato> you can set that
[02:18] <mikeh66> I am running kubu64, it offered rpm, yum, and something else
[02:18] <zengen1> You want the tar.gz
[02:18] <Jucato> !flash64 | mikeh66
[02:18] <ubotu> mikeh66: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:19] <mefisto_> is the flash player not in repos?
[02:19] <stdin> man packaging can be a pita, it's taking more time updating changelogs then updating code
[02:19] <Jucato> stdin: yeah...
[02:20] <Jucato> specially if you mean Debian packages...
[02:20] <stdin> well, I have to update the ChangeLog and debian/changelog :p
[02:21] <Jucato> the tradeoff of Debian's superb package management system...
[02:30] <icecool> libcairo assertion failed problem with xaralx.... . . . can anyone help?
[02:35] <BluesKaj> icecool, what may i ask is xaralax ?
[02:35] <BluesKaj> err xaralx
[02:36] <icecool> xaralx is a vector illustrator
[02:38] <icecool> man so many people here
[02:38] <icecool> and not one to help me out
[02:40] <Tm_T> icecool: you mean: noone knows about your problem
[02:43] <icecool> no
[02:43] <icecool> noone has any solution to my problem
[02:43] <icecool> i like pasted the problem many times yet no answer
[02:43] <icecool> Tm_T: do u have a solution
[02:44] <icecool> the problem is libcairo assertion fails with xara startup
[02:44] <BluesKaj> pasted where ?
[02:44] <kilrae> where did asciiquariam go?
[02:45] <icecool> libcairo assertion failed problem with xaralx
[02:45] <kilrae> oh, silly me
[02:45] <icecool> so is there anyone to help me?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> does xara use java , python or perl
[02:47] <Jucato> qt afaik
[02:48] <Jucato> icecool: I'm not sure the people who are available right now (that is, the ones who can actually read your question) knows
[02:48] <Jucato> hm.. or was it wxwidgets that xara is using...
[02:49] <truth> !automatix
[02:49] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:51] <icecool> well the question is simple ..... i installed xara now i cant run it ... when i run it through terminal i get the following error xaralx: /build/buildd/libcairo-1.4.2/src/cairo-ft-font.c:659: _cairo_ft_unscaled_font_set_scale: Assertion `error == 0' failed.
[02:51] <BluesKaj> icecool, i think your question might be better answered by ppl who are familiar with heavy duty graphics apps instead of a kubuntu help chat
[02:51] <icecool> do u know of any irc channel for that?
[02:52] <kozo> hi
[02:52] <coreymon77> !hi | kozo
[02:52] <ubotu> kozo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:52] <BluesKaj> icecool, looking
[02:53] <icecool> i dont think its a xara problem it may be more of a libcairo problem
[02:53] <kozo> i need some help whit my menu.lst, in my grub ther is xp but when i try to boot ther comes wrong partion (how can i get the right to boot xp)
[02:54] <kozo> i have 4
[02:54] <Jucato> icecool: just a hint, might want to ask in #ubuntu as Cairo is a GTK thing
[02:54] <Jucato> (which kinda tells me Xara isn't using Qt :P)
[02:54] <icecool> ok
[02:55] <Jucato> er.. "just a guess" I mean
[02:55] <kozo> http://pastebin.ca/716646
[02:55] <truth> !kde
[02:56] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[02:56] <kilrae> is it possible to get xscreensavers working?
[02:56] <kozo> in menu.lst ther is (hd0,1) for xp
[02:57] <Jucato> kozo: /dev/hda1   *           1        9732    78172258+   7  HPFS/NTFS <--- is that were XP is?
[02:58] <BluesKaj> kozo , copy&paste your menu.lst in pastebin
[02:58] <kozo> yes
[02:58] <kozo> hda1
[02:58] <Jucato> hda1 = hd0,0 not hd0,1
[02:58] <kozo> http://pastebin.ca/716649
[02:59] <Jucato> kozo: yes it should be hd0,0
[02:59] <clever> i suspect a recent apt-get upgrade has messed up my X server's performance, how would i back it up?
[02:59] <stdin> !nickspam > Stinky
[03:00] <Jucato> kozo: but you could test it first or you could wait for someone else to confirm
[03:00] <kozo> thanks i give it a try
[03:00] <kozo> yes i make a reboot a test it now
[03:00] <clever> im guessing the change 2007-09-24 18:11:54 upgrade xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.6 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.7 broke it
[03:01] <kozo> thanks again for the help
[03:01] <purpleposeidon> "libsexy2"
[03:01] <Dayve> I have an unusual question, I think... I'm trying to delete some useless files as root to make room on a very full partition and I can't, because I don't have adequate permissions.  as root
[03:02] <Jucato> Dayve: what files would those be?
[03:02] <juacom99> hi, can anyone plese help me configurin a Epson cx3900 than is plug in in a PC in my local net
[03:03] <Dayve> Jucato, nothing important... just a computer game I don't remember extracting to this folder and a huge torrented file that is taking up space
[03:04] <Jucato> but it's in a root-owned folder? weird...
[03:04] <Jucato> try using sudo... or use "kdesu konqueror" so you can do it graphically
[03:05] <Dayve> Jucato, actually, it's on a 10 GB FAT32 partition... root owns everything, but all users are supposed to be allowed to add and remove stuff
[03:05] <Jucato> hm.. I think FAT32 partitions are readable and writeable by regular users (the owner)
[03:05] <Jucato> at least depending if it's mounted that way
[03:06] <Dayve> I thought so too, but the computer isn't letting me delete anything
[03:06] <Dayve> it says... "Read-only file system" and I checked fstab and I unmounted it and mounted it with a "-w" in there and it still says that, even when I try to delete the folders as root
[03:06] <juacom99> hi, can anyone plese help me configurin a Epson cx3900 than is plug in in a PC in my local net
[03:07] <Jucato> !fat32 | Dayve
[03:07] <ubotu> Dayve: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:08] <juacom99> :(
[03:09] <Jucato> !printers
[03:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:10] <juacom99> thanks
[03:11] <Hacker_> Hello!
[03:12] <Gazza> :D
[03:12] <Hacker_> init ctcp Gotcha
[03:12] <Hacker_> jjk
[03:13] <Hacker_> any drivers for the vivitar mini digital camera
[03:13] <Hacker_> ?
[03:15] <Hacker_> nick
[03:16] <Hacker_> bigleon: hello
[03:16] <Hacker_> ana: hello
[03:17] <Hacker_> yawn
[03:18] <Hacker_> wow. what intellectually stimulating disscussion! ;-)
[03:18] <Hacker_> d:)
[03:19] <Hacker_> d-)
[03:20] <Hacker_> ardchoille: hello
[03:20] <Tm_T> Hacker_: why you make so much noise?
[03:20] <Hacker_> huh?
[03:21] <Hacker_> what you say?
[03:21] <Tm_T> you make a lot of senseless noise
[03:21] <stdin> scroll up, that's the great thing about text, you can read it twice
[03:22] <ardchoille> Tm_T: ignore lists rock!
[03:22] <Tm_T> ardchoille: when I have to use ignore, that would mean destruction of this channel ;)
[03:23] <stdin> while /ignore is nice, /mode #kubuntu +q user  is nicer
[03:23] <ardchoille> Has anyone been able to get the konq browser to work with http://www.googlepages.com ?
[03:23] <ardchoille> stdin: Indeed
[03:25] <gustavo> what happened with demonoid? :(
[03:26] <Hacker_> Hi, stdin
[03:26] <EightiesK> !beta
[03:26] <ubotu> If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[03:26] <Hacker_> !foo
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <EightiesK> !VMware
[03:26] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:26] <Hacker_> !anything
[03:26] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[03:27] <stdin> !botabuse > Hacker_
[03:27] <EightiesK> sorry just needed lynx
[03:28] <Hacker> What did i miss?
[03:30] <Hacker> !anything > Hacker
[03:30] <Hacker> !nothing > Hacker
[03:30] <stdin> stop that
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> hola!
[03:31] <NickPresta> hey nosrednaekim
[03:31] <Hacker> Hola!
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> whats up?
[03:31] <Hacker> the menu bar
[03:31] <Hacker> or a direction
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> no... thats to the left..
[03:32] <Hacker> The Oxford Dictionary's take on "up"
[03:32] <Hacker> :
[03:33] <Hacker> "The direction opposite to the pull of gravity"
[03:33] <mefisto_> it was inevitable I suppose
[03:33] <stdin> Hacker: if you have nothing useful to say, don't speak
[03:34] <zengen1> Does anyone know of a linux alternative to mIRC with Autoget?
[03:34] <NickPresta> zengen1, autoget?
[03:34] <zengen1> A dcc que script.
[03:34] <zengen1> And list grabber.
[03:35] <quixogre> am i here now?
[03:35] <mneptok> zengen1: look for XChat scripts. they are legion.
[03:36] <zengen1> Yeah, I've tried 4.  Zeus looked to be the best, but I can't get it to run.  The others aren't really what I wanted.
[03:40] <stdin> damn, my ban-foo is failing me
[03:41] <alex_> hola
[03:44] <quixogre> hi alex_
[03:45] <alex_> hola
[03:45] <stdin> !es
[03:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:45] <alex_> quien eres
[03:46] <quixogre> !es |alex_
[03:46] <ubotu> alex_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:46] <alex_> hola tocallo
[03:48] <mrdigital> anyone ever use a firewire cable STB in ubuntu?
[03:49] <sainzeo_> i recently installed windows drivers for my atheros wireless using ndiswrapper and am suddenly seeing freezes that require pressing the power button - any suggestions?
[03:50] <quixogre> dang sainzeo. yer havin a rough day huh?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> stdin: thats worth a shot but looks kind of different
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: yeah.,. that happens to me occasionally as well
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: what atheros chipset do you have?
[03:52] <quixogre> sainzeo i cant even install my windows drivers because ndiswrapper freezes on install
[03:53] <quixogre> broadcom wireless cards suck for linux
[03:54] <sainzeo_> um...
[03:55] <zengen1> quixogre: are you using apt-get for your ndiswrapper or compiling it?
[03:55] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: i believe its like 5007eg
[03:55] <sainzeo_> is it possible to remove ndiswrapper and revert back to the original driver?
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: yes it is possible... and the 5007 is one of the few that are unsupported
[03:56] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: how can i uninstall ndiswrapper and get the old driver back?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: unblacklist the ath_pci, and that will do it.
[03:56] <quixogre> zengen: compiling it. theres a HOWTO page dedicated to my ethernet card
[03:56] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: oh, thats it???
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: that SHOULD do it..
[03:56] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: just unblacklist it then remove ndiswrapper?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> along with a good reboot
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: yep
[03:57] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: i believed i compiled it from source, does that matter?
[03:57] <Juacom99> hei again
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: that makes it a bit harder... just when you unblacklist ath-pci, blacklist ndiswrapper
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> and that should do it.
[03:58] <sainzeo_> @nosrednaekim: i can't "uninstall" ndiswrapper at all, just blacklist it?
[03:58] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: how do i go about blacklisting ndiswrapper?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> righto.
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: you know where you blacklisted ath_pci?
[03:59] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: yeah i think so
[04:00] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: just type in ndiswrapper instead of ath_pci?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo_: well, just replace "ath_pci" with "ndiswrapper"
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> yup
[04:00] <LordBacon> does kubuntu have a easy way to restore grub with the livedvd? or should I just mount the real system and chroot in?
[04:00] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: how do i make sure it's using the old driver again after i do that?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> it is :)
[04:01] <sainzeo_> nosrednaekim: okay thanks! i'll let ya know!
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> yup
[04:03] <Juacom99> hey
[04:03] <mefisto_> LordBacon: what do you need to restore?
[04:03] <_gtt_> he said grub
[04:03] <_gtt_> i suggest the supergrub cd
[04:03] <LordBacon> I was trying to install windows, but failed miserably
[04:03] <_gtt_> it is superb
[04:04] <_gtt_> LordBacon: get supergrub
[04:04] <_gtt_> cd
[04:04] <Juacom99> anyone know if there is ther any mns plus like program
[04:04] <LordBacon> I know I can mount the real root and /boot partition under that, chroot in and do it manually, but I wondering if the kubuntu livedvd has a wizard to do it
[04:04] <LordBacon> _gtt_: it would take more time, effort, and blank cds than I care to spend
[04:05] <mefisto_> LordBacon: or take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:06] <LordBacon> ok, that just tells me how to do it manually
[04:07] <mefisto_> LordBacon: it takes 5 minutes
[04:07] <LordBacon> I know, but ubuntu is made for me to be lazy
[04:07] <LordBacon> and after 12 years of linux, I want to be really lazy
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: what do you want, magic? clicking on a button is manual ;)
[04:08] <LordBacon> a magic button that would scan my hd and do it all for me
[04:08] <mefisto_> LordBacon, that's too lazy
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: truely lazy people are programmers...
[04:09] <quixogre> lordbacon, boot from the cd. get to a command promt, and enter the following: grub-install hd0
[04:09] <quixogre> that will reinstall grub
[04:10] <rance> can someone tell me how to set the sound device to allow NON excusive access on kubuntu 7.04?  My vmware keeps telling me it cant send the sound card to the vm OS because its in use in the host, cant they share?
[04:10] <LordBacon> esd doesn't like to share
[04:10] <LordBacon> it learned that from it's days of running in the enlightenment gang
[04:11] <rance> anything I can do about that?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> rance: its in the sound configuration, enable duplex.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> and have KDE lose control immediately.
[04:12] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: well looks like that worked, i'm gonna test by moving a large file over from a network computer (thats when it would always freeze) to test
[04:12] <quixogre> forgive me father for i am sinning...im installing windows on a computer as we speak
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> you blacklisted ndiswrapper, so you're running madwifi?
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> quixogre: shame on you.
[04:13] <rance> ok, thanks all
[04:13] <quixogre> cant be helped. im taking windows server class
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: so you are running the madwifi driver?
[04:14] <quixogre> they wouldnt accept "linux is better" as an excuse fir not installing windows
[04:14] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: haha i'm not sure, i'm thinking whichever one kubuntu uses as default to begin with - if thats the madwifi then yes haha
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> quixogre: can you do it from within a VM?
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: do a "lspci | grep ath"
[04:15] <quixogre> the class? tried that. they said "nope"
[04:15] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: nothing pops up after entering it
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> whoops :) its "lsmod | grep ath"
[04:16] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: here's what i get:
[04:17] <sainzeo> ath_rate_sample
[04:17] <sainzeo> ath_pci
[04:17] <sainzeo> wlan
[04:17] <sainzeo> ath_hal
[04:17] <sainzeo> then some numbers
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> cool
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> now try "lsmod | grep ndis"
[04:17] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: ndiswrapper
[04:17] <sainzeo> usbcore
[04:17] <gustavo> has someone ever installed DBDesigner on linux?
[04:18] <jackie_> hello
[04:18] <jackie_> new tot his.
[04:18] <quixogre> welcome jackie_
[04:18] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: it seems like its fixed cause i was able to copy over a large file without any freeze
[04:18] <sainzeo> knock on wood
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: haha... well it seems you have both drivers loaded... but whatever works ;)
[04:19] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: i blacklisted the ndiswrapper...what else could i do to make sure it doesn't load?
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> IDK... its odd.. but anyway... if it works ;)
[04:19] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: yeah we'll see
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> don't mess with it
[04:19] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: i won't haha, thanks for all your help!
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> yup...NP
[04:24] <quixogre> so.....who wants to make fun of windows?
[04:25] <mefisto_> chkdsk. ahahaahaa
[04:26] <quixogre> i feel so soul dirty...installing windows is bad for the
[04:26] <quixogre> gah. i REALLY need to disable my touchpad
[04:31] <mefisto_> why don't they have a simple on/off switch on those things?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> my laptop does
[04:31] <mefisto_> oh, good idea
[04:32] <quixogre> wish mine did
[04:32] <quixogre> stupid dell
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> wow... I thought that was standard
[04:34] <mefisto_> it's a common niusance
[04:37] <mefisto_> *nuisance
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> spelling is one too.
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:37] <BlueVette>  Ever stop to think that maybe the Emperor (StarWars) shouldn't have designed a death-suck-hole 10 feet away from his "throne"?  Or maybe, when having the hand-rails designed to surround said hole, that he should have had Darth Vader stand on his tip toes with his arms fully extended upwards to set the proper "safety height"?
[04:38] <mefisto_> that has never crossed my mind BlueVette
[04:38] <stdin> !ot
[04:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:38] <BlueVette> hmm.. just me then.
[04:41] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: hey another question - with this other driver, my wireless signal always appears at like 50% even though windows would report it at close too 80 or above
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: yeah... the atheros driver is terrible at reporting signal stregnths correctly.
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: thats normal ;)
[04:42] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: so it should still be operating at normal speeds though?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> should be..
[04:44] <jimmy_> Hi, has anyone here gotten Joost to run via wine? I've followed the tutorial, but it gives me Signature Check Failed errors.
[04:44] <kgx> can gaim and kopete import contact lists? or will i have to create contact list file myself if i want to "import" contacts
[04:44] <stdin> jimmy_: try asking in #winehq
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> kgx: what do you mean by contact list?
[04:44] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: another question, haha sorry, would you know a fix to why kopete won't allow me to start a chat using the groupwise plugin, but am able to chat with other users as long as they start the chat first?
[04:45] <mefisto_> kgx: contact lists are usually part of your account
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> sainzeo: no clue.. I don't really use kopete very much
[04:45] <jimmy_> stdin: thanks
[04:45] <sainzeo> nosrednaekim: what do you use? gaim/pidgin?
[04:45] <quixogre> sainzeo: try using gaim, see if it will let you use groupwise
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> Gaim..
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> although I just switched to kopete since it has google talk voice support
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> (in SVN)
[04:46] <kgx> what i mean is, lets say my web application has x number of users. i want any user to be able to select those users, click on download, and then import this list into their gaim contacts
[04:46] <sainzeo> quixogre: i know pidgin works fine - i would just like to keep kopete so it fits in nicer with kde
[04:47] <kgx> sainzeo: i prefer kopete too
[04:47] <mefisto_> is pidgin the new name, or gaim?
[04:47] <nosrednaekim> pigind is new
[04:47] <sainzeo> mefisto_: yes, pidgin is the new gaim
[04:48] <sainzeo> mefisto_: i actually prefer it over kopete, but kopete blends better with kde imo
[04:49] <sainzeo> there must be a way to get groupwise working correctly with kopete - i mean kopete comes with openSUSE kde and that has to work considering it is novell haha
[04:53] <quixogre> novell probably uses pidgin
[04:53] <sainzeo> quixogre: for their kde version?
[04:53] <Jucato> of course not :)
[04:54] <quixogre> hehe if it works...
[04:54] <Juacom99> can anyoen pese help me with a noob question :$
[04:54] <quixogre> sorry, im in a bad mood. installing windows always makes me cranky
[04:54] <dcosson> is there any special channel for gutsy or anything?
[04:54] <quixogre> juacom, dont ask to ask, just ask ;)
[04:54] <stdin> dcosson: #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <Juacom99> i'm tring to install FrostWire
[04:55] <Juacom99> i went to the oficial page
[04:55] <stdin> !frostwire
[04:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:55] <Juacom99> thanks
[04:56] <Juacom99> thanksss!!! is downloaing
[04:57] <Juacom99> i don't know why firefox didn't start the download
[05:04] <quixogre> anyne here used vista yet?
[05:04] <Juacom99> i got a firnd who has vista
[05:04] <Juacom99> it sucks :S
[05:05] <quixogre> heard you cant dual boot with vista
[05:05] <Juacom99> no??
[05:05] <Juacom99> fuckinf microsoft 
[05:05] <quixogre> its what i heard, was trying to get confirmation
[05:05] <stdin> !language
[05:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:05] <Juacom99> now thy don't alow people to have 2 OS
[05:05] <Juacom99> sorry
[05:06] <quixogre> stdin in his defense, the word microsoft is SUPPOSED to be preceded by a pejorative
[05:07] <quixogre> a crude or offensive slang term
[05:07] <Juacom99> ohhh
[05:08] <Juacom99> sorry i don't speack english
[05:08] <Juacom99> actualy i'm really bat at it
[05:08] <quixogre> s'okay neither do i
[05:08] <Juacom99> *bad
[05:08] <quixogre> nah you speak pretty good so far.
[05:08] <Juacom99> where ae you from
[05:08] <mefisto_> it doesn't mean slang, or offensive
[05:08] <quixogre> texas. i speak spanglish
[05:09] <Juacom99> naa i make gramatics horrors
[05:09] <Juacom99> :O
[05:09] <Juacom99> i'm from Uruguay
[05:09] <quixogre> habla espanol?
[05:09] <Juacom99> see
[05:09] <Juacom99> but not here
[05:09] <Jucato> !es
[05:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:10] <Jucato> :)
[05:10] <Juacom99> lol
[05:10] <Juacom99> thanks
[05:10] <quixogre> yo hablamos un poco..no es perfecto, pero esta bien para un bollio
[05:10] <Juacom99> i didn't know that chanells even exist
[05:10] <Juacom99> you speak ok (Y)
[05:11] <quixogre> okies. time for me to go home. goodnight all
[05:11] <Juacom99> good night
[05:13] <LordBacon> what's the best fs for a general datastore, including movies music, software, source, images, and other random crap?
[05:15] <mefisto_> LordBacon: fat32 can be easily accessed by many systems
[05:15] <mefisto_> if that's what you're thinking
[05:15] <LordBacon> don't care about that part
[05:15] <stdin> ext3 is generally the one to go for
[05:15] <LordBacon> Fat32 has a small filesize limit so I can't store isos anyway
[05:16] <fiyahbun> Does anyone have both KDM session and GDM on their comp
[05:16] <fiyahbun> ?
[05:16] <thomas_> how to upload to an ssh server?
[05:17] <LordBacon> scp file user@host:path
[05:17] <kkathman> fiyahbun: yep
[05:17] <stdin> thomas_: from command like: "scp filename user@host:/path/to/save" from Konqueror  use   sftp://user@host
[05:18] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  im in kubuntu at the moment but have gdm also available
[05:18] <fiyahbun> ok, i started off with ubuntu, but i recently found out about kubuntu and wanted to see how different it is
[05:18] <thomas_> stdin: thank you
[05:18] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  sure
[05:19] <fiyahbun> so i downloaded kdedesktop, but when i tried to go into my kdm session, it stops loading after window manager and now all i see is a background, no icons, no taskbar, nothing
[05:19] <fiyahbun> u have any idea what's the problem?
[05:22] <randy__> please help, adept crashed during update and x won't start now. Error says "Failure to load module 'wfb' (module does not exist, 0)"
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> How do I up my resolution?
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> There isn't any display module in system settings....
[05:24] <purpleposeidon> and krandr only shows "crappy" and "crappier" for screen resolutions...
[05:24] <LordBacon> oops
[05:25] <LordBacon> I just broke my box again
[05:25] <LordBacon> I just gparted'd all my partitions around since I gave up on installing windows, now I'll have to go edit the fstab and menu.lst
[05:25] <LordBacon> woo, fun
[05:27] <marius_> hello
[05:27] <rickey> hello
[05:27] <marius_> i have a question
[05:28] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  so you did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:28] <nine01a> I'm really impressed with Kubuntu 7.10 Tribe 5.
[05:28] <kkathman> !ask | marius_
[05:28] <ubotu> marius_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:28] <marius_> i am trying to make mp3 work on kubintu
[05:28] <kkathman> !mp3 | marius_
[05:28] <ubotu> marius_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <nine01a> Install libmad should do the trick.
[05:29] <marius_> kk
[05:29] <marius_> thanx
[05:29] <stdin> no it won't
[05:29] <ardchoille> libxine1-ffmpeg ?
[05:29] <stdin> yep
[05:29] <nemisis> does anyone know how to open up ports for ktorrent to use?
[05:29] <nine01a> Ooh I just remembered it was a xine-libmad plugin to be used in Amarok.
[05:30] <fiyahbun> kkathman: yeah
[05:31] <fiyahbun> kkathman: i installed everythin included the updates
[05:32] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  hmm, you might reboot and see ?
[05:32] <nine01a> nemisis: the uPnP plugin might work (not sure though). I had to go to my router config to do it. 192.168.X.1
[05:33] <nemisis> nin01a: i've already tried that, the router config i'll check. (i just have to remember to port used to access)
[05:33] <fiyahbun> kkathman: i restarted the computer
[05:33] <nine01a> nemisis: And then after you get those ports fowarded, you'll probably want to make your IP static too.
[05:34] <fiyahbun> kkathman: at one point i thought beryl from gnome had something to do with it, its in the startup, but i disabled it and it still won't load kubuntu
[05:34] <marius_> nemesis put a three in front of the port number
[05:34] <marius_> that helped me
[05:34] <marius_> the purt u r using may be blacklisted
[05:34] <kkathman> fiyahbun: that shouldnt have anything to do with it, as I have compiz-fusion on both - but their settings are different
[05:34] <nemisis> nine01a: ok, do you know if the linksys site will have instructions to access router settings
[05:34] <marius_> u need to change it
[05:35] <nine01a> nemisis: it'll be 192.168.0.1 and the zero might be a 1 or 2 as well.
[05:35] <nine01a> Not sure about Linksys.
[05:35] <LordBacon> ok, what's all this about UUIDs in my fstab?
[05:35] <fiyahbun> kkathman: did u start with kubuntu and then got ubuntu or vice versa?
[05:35] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  i'd suggest booting to the console and then startx  so you can maybe see the errors
[05:35] <LordBacon> how can I see the UUIDs from the cli?
[05:36] <kkathman> fiyahbun:  started with ubuntu and installed kubuntu
[05:36] <ardchoille> LordBacon: blkid
[05:36] <nemisis> nine01a: ok, i'm in.
[05:37] <fiyahbun> kkathman: ok, well i'm still new to this, so go to the console and type startx?
[05:37] <thomas_> stdin: if I am connected to the the ssh server, can I issue: scp username@ip:/home/username/document/asdf.html .
[05:37] <nine01a> nemisis: I've got a Linksys wrt65gc now that I look at it so I can probably help you more
[05:37] <ardchoille> kkathman: Are you wanting to log into kde instead of gnome?
[05:37] <stdin> thomas_: only if you have an ssh server running on your system
[05:38] <ardchoille> LordBacon: :)
[05:38] <kkathman> ardchoille:  ?? no, I can do that fine - its fiyahbun that is having the probs
[05:38] <ardchoille> kkathman: Ah, ok
[05:39] <fiyahbun> ardchoille: yes, i'm tryin to get in kde but for some reason it seems to stop loading after the window manager icon lights up and then the splash screen dissappears and i'm left with just a background
[05:39] <nemisis> nine01a:ok, i'm in the Apps & Gaming/UPnP tab
[05:39] <ardchoille> fiyahbun: What happens when you alt+f2 ?
[05:40] <fiyahbun> ardchoille: haven't tried it, what does that do?
[05:40] <ardchoille> It opens up a run dialog
[05:40] <nine01a> nemisis: I used the custom name boxes. Ktorrent = 6881 tcp, ktorrent UDP = 4444, DHT = 6882
[05:41] <nine01a> nemisis: DHT is UDP as well.
[05:41] <nemisis> nine01a: it won't let me type in all of Ktorrent, it stops me before the last t
[05:41] <fiyahbun> ardchoille: i'll try to log in and see what happens
[05:42] <nine01a> nemisis: Doesn't matter. It's for your own readability.
[05:42] <nemisis> ok
[05:43] <LordBacon> how much video ram should I give my card to run compiz and such ?
[05:43] <LordBacon> I don't game, or do any real 3d stuff
[05:43] <nine01a> LordBacon: not too much
[05:43] <LordBacon> 64 is fine?
[05:44] <nine01a> LordBacon: 128 MB on an ATi x200m works great.
[05:44] <LordBacon> k, I have 2G total, and up to 256 shared video
[05:45] <jcs7778> My swap file doesn't seem to be working, ksysgard says that there is no swap space available. My computer only has 512 mb ram which is fine most of the time but here and there i do something that just makes it stop and i'm pretty sure that fixing my swap file will help.
[05:45] <jared> anyone up to some sound troubleshooting that I can't seem to fix with any of the articles for troubleshooting?
[05:45] <jcs7778> any sugestions
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> jcs7778  make sure ya got a swap partition made, make sure its listed in /etc/fstab
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> check with the 'free' command also.
[05:46] <thomas_> stdin: which I do
[05:46] <stdin> thomas_: then you can
[05:46] <thomas_> it times out
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[05:47] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:48] <jcs7778> I know i have a swap partition on the disk, but actually i don't see one in fstab.
[05:48] <nemisis_> nine01a: works great, i'm going fast enough now my lag is constantly going up on konversation
[05:48] <thomas_> stdin: it times out though
[05:48] <stdin> thomas_: if you're behind a firewall or router you'll need to setup port-forwarding or open the port on the firewall
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> #/dev/sda3      none            swap    sw              0       0
[05:49] <nine01a> nemisis_: Good. Is "DHT: . . " showing nodes in the status bar?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> is a example fstab entry for swap
[05:49] <thomas_> stdin: i am able to connect to my machine already from outside
[05:49] <nemisis_> nine01a:it was, i had to close out ktorrent to reconnect to the irc
[05:49] <LordBacon> ok, now this sucks
[05:50] <stdin> thomas_: then it should work, scp uses the same port as ssh
[05:50] <jcs7778> no, it's completely gone but yeah, it actually is /dev/sda3 i know that for a fact, if i add that line and omit the # will that do it?
[05:50] <thomas_> stdin: scp username@myip:"/home/username/Documents/Html Files/interests.html" .
[05:51] <ardchoille> LordBacon: PM?
[05:51] <LordBacon> sure
[05:52] <nemisis_> nine01a:thanks for the help. :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> jcs7778 you will need to do the swapon command to activate the swap.
[05:55] <thomas_> stdin: is that correct?
[05:55] <stdin> thomas_: yeah
[05:57] <fiyahbun> kkatha, ardchoille: tried Alt F2, nothing works, only thing i could do was ctrl alt backspace to exit
[05:58] <ardchoille> fiyahbun: Yeah, sounds like your kde session is b0rked
[06:00] <fiyahbun> kkatha, ardchoille: were there any tweaks you had to do before installing and running the kde_desktop
[06:00] <fiyahbun> ?
[06:01] <thomas_> stdin: hey i have a question, I think that I have my port forwarding configured to the wrong ip, so I tried pinging my net ip and it pinged back.......?
[06:02] <stdin> thomas_: that's probably your router pinging back
[06:02] <stdin> mine does that too
[06:02] <thomas_> stdin: ohhh, but I didn't ping 192.....i pinged my net ip
[06:03] <thomas_> stdin: from the ssh server I connected to
[06:03] <stdin> thomas_: yeah, if I ping my external IP my router pings back
[06:04] <Jal> does anyone know the address for Ubuntu's general repo server? USA's giving me fits
[06:06] <stdin> Jal: just take off the "us." bit
[06:06] <jhutchins_x> !easysources | jai
[06:06] <ubotu> jai: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:09] <ardchoille> fiyahbun: I have never any problems with any *buntu release.. I just installed it and it ran fine.
[06:09] <avt3kk> hi
[06:10] <Jal> <.<;; ty...
[06:11] <ardchoille> Jal: sudo sed -i.backup 's/us.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update
[06:11] <avt3kk> how do I start kubuntu in safe mode on my hd??
[06:12] <avt3kk> its just updated but
[06:12] <avt3kk> it wont start
[06:12] <thomas> stdin: how can I "ping" my ssh server from another ssh server?
[06:12] <avt3kk> x11 wont start I have special vid card
[06:12] <avt3kk> x800
[06:12] <avt3kk> radeon
[06:12] <thomas> stdin: i want to be able to see if it responds to it
[06:12] <thomas> stdin: icmp packets wont read ssh right?
[06:13] <stdin> thomas_: you can't ping ssh, but you can try connecting with "ssh user@yourip"
[06:13] <stdin> avt3kk: safe mode? you mean recovery mode or something else?
[06:14] <thomas> stdin: is there another way to discover if my ssh server is running?
[06:14] <thomas> stdin: because for example I want to know if its running, or if something else is misconfigured
[06:14] <stdin> if it's running? yeah, "pidof sshd"  if that shows a number then it is
[06:15] <thomas> stdin: ok cool what is pidof lol
[06:15] <thomas> stdin: ok i got man
[06:15] <stdin> pidof shows the PID of  a process :)
[06:16] <DaSkreech> blast where is intelikey!
[06:16] <DaSkreech> stdin: doesn't ps
[06:16] <DaSkreech> and top?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> and Ksysguard?
[06:16] <stdin> DaSkreech: yeah, but he wanted to know if sshd was running, and that's the quickest way
[06:17] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> kub-: try KNub
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> ps ax | grep sshd      perhaps?
[06:17] <Lynoure> there are so many ways to see if it is running, that one has to choose one...
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Esc typpe sshd
[06:17] <stdin> Dr_Willis:  yeah, but "pidof sshd" is quicker
[06:17] <DaSkreech> ssh into localhost?
[06:18] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: does not work in call cases...
[06:18] <kub-> hehe
[06:18] <kub-> :P
[06:18] <DaSkreech> kub-: ;-)
[06:18] <thomas> stdin: you know the problem was that my local ip changes for some reason sometimes...so my port forwarding changes....but I have another machine on this network and when it changes theres a problem
[06:18] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: you can have sshd running and still not get a reply due to creative firewalling
[06:19] <knub> DaSkreech: if you say so
[06:19] <knub> heheh
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: I'm thinking that if you can't figure out how to check if sshd is running you maybe havn't had much creative firewalling experience either
[06:19] <DaSkreech> I could be wrong
[06:19] <DaSkreech> but that'sa what Ima thinking
[06:19] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: it's the newbies that usually manage firewall too much
[06:21] <knub> really crowded channel :P i entered here just while fooling around with konversation
[06:21] <knub> didnt know i would find so much people
[06:22] <knub> i'm waiting here kde4 to install. let's see what i get :)
[06:22] <mefisto_> following the questions/answers is a good way to learn kubuntu. that's usually why I'm here
[06:22] <brainwrck> hi how may  I fix the installer?
[06:22] <brainwrck> apt gives me this error
[06:23] <brainwrck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:23] <brainwrck> w
[06:23] <brainwrck> t
[06:23] <brainwrck> f
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !fix apt
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <brainwrck> ?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !fix-apt
[06:23] <stdin> !aptfix
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> grr
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> heh.. silly bot..
[06:24] <brainwrck> fuser?
[06:24] <knub> do you got adept running?
[06:24] <DaSkreech> knub: from source or from the repos?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> I wonder why that factoid had a Funny A with a hat, in front of the   << character.. befor  the command.
[06:25] <DaSkreech> mefisto_: throw in a few answers if you can :)
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> whats that funny << character also.. heh heh :)
[06:25] <knub> this error seems to be like something is getting the apt busy
[06:25] <mefisto_> DaSkreech: when I think I know, I try to
[06:25] <knub> DaSkreech: from repo
[06:25] <DaSkreech> mefisto_: Sweet :0
[06:25] <DaSkreech> knub: ooooold :)
[06:26] <knub> hhehe does it really work?
[06:26] <avt3kk> Stdin I have radeon saphire x800 video card and kubuntu cant start up normaly so before ubuntu dapper drake has a safe mode boot see and I could start it up to the desktop
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Does anyone know how network cards get there name?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> their
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> you mean the eth0 eth1 ethwhatever name?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> the 'device' name i guess. :) is what its called.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> yeah
[06:27] <DaSkreech> how does it get aliased?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> I need to remove some
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> I think its the order the modules get loaded.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> or at least it used to be..
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> not sure if theres any other ways to tweak them.
[06:27] <DaSkreech> so a module would have to be blacklisted for it not to get a name?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Ages ago some disrtos loaded that Firewire networking thing by default.. that gave everyone a useless eth0, and moved their real network to eth1 :)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> So blacklisting the modules is 1 way i guess of preventing them from getting loaded/used
[06:28] <stdin> avt3kk: there is no "safe mode" like that, never was. you'll have to login to the command line and  do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then change the "ati", "radeon" or "fglrx" driver to "visa" then save (Ctrl-O, Ctrl-X) then run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> There may be some other rules files you can use. I havent messed witht he auto detections stuff in years.
[06:29] <mefisto_> Dr_Willis: wouldn't blacklisting remove all of them?
[06:29] <knub> stdin: vesa?
[06:29] <knub> visa?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> for that firewire one. that one module is blacklisted. so it never gets loaded. by default.  Not sure about 'all of them' or what his specific case is.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> knub: vista shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:29] <stdin> hum, vesa
[06:30] <knub> stdin: avt3kk: wouldnt a boot with 'apic' solve? -- i dont really know what it does mean, but it worked for me sometime : P
[06:30] <DaSkreech> Well Say I had a card with two ports and didn't want one to show up?
[06:30] <knub> DaSkreech: :P heheh
[06:30] <stdin> knub: doubtful
[06:30] <DaSkreech> !vista
[06:30] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreech a network card with 2 ports? No idea there.. Only NIC ive ever seen with more then 1 port. was actually a HUB/NIC combo. :)
[06:31] <avt3kk> apic boot???
[06:31] <avt3kk> whats that
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> apic = advanced power interrupt control (i think)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> or was that apci. ...
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> its a setting used to tweak the  power control/stuff on the mobherboards. that some companys  have 'bugs' in. :)  had to use it on a few laptops in the past.
[06:36] <jagcorvair> How do I mount a DVD DL drive? It won't recognize it.
[06:36] <jagcorvair> Kaffeine keeps asking for /dev/dvd
[06:36] <jagcorvair> I have it at /dev/scd1
[06:36] <jagcorvair> Also, it's an IDE drive, not SCSI
[06:37] <BigDaddy> hey, real quick guys. Anyone have a mp3 player that works in K/Ubuntu?
[06:38] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: You can try: sudo mount /dev/scd1 /mount_point
[06:38] <BigDaddy> I am just curious of the file path, mount pont or whatever it should be
[06:38] <ardchoille> BigDaddy: xmms works fine and you don't need to install codecs for it
[06:39] <BigDaddy> ardcholle - my bad, I meant like Zen player or an iPod
[06:40] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: which one are you interested in?
[06:40] <BigDaddy> I have a Zen Vision:W. However when I plug it in it appears as a camera on the desktop.
[06:40] <jhughes> hi
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Probably using MTP
[06:40] <jhughes> trying to get sound working on a Panasonic CF-51 VEr. 7.04
[06:40] <DaSkreech>  Microsoft transfer protocol
[06:40] <jhughes> lol, damn M$
[06:41] <DaSkreech> it's a rewritten PTP which is Kodak's Picture transfer protocol
[06:41] <BigDaddy> Hey DaSkreech. Good to see you again. I can use Gnomad2 for file transfers. But officially K/Ubuntu and Amarok don't recognize it
[06:41] <DaSkreech>  not surprised some of the players turn up as a camera
[06:41] <billytwowilly> what's the command to automagically make a deb file from an install?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: hop to #amarok
[06:42] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: i'm sure they would love to have better hardware support
[06:42] <BigDaddy> DaSkreech - that makes perect sense! I couldn't understand why it was a camera.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> You can help them or #gphoto2 to get better detection
[06:42] <Jucato> !checkinstall | billytwowilly
[06:42] <ubotu> billytwowilly: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[06:42] <billytwowilly> sweet, thanks jucato.
[06:43] <BigDaddy> When you plugin a usb mp3 player, what is the path in Konquerer, anyone know?
[06:43] <Jucato> BigDaddy: try checking in media:/
[06:43] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: Doh! it's #gphoto not 2
[06:44] <jhughes> ane one care to assist? I am trying to get sound working on a Panasonic CF-51 VEr. 7.04
[06:44] <DaSkreech> jhughes: have you read !sound
[06:45] <Jucato> !sound
[06:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:45] <jhughes> I didn't see it
[06:45] <jhughes> thkx Jucato
[06:45] <Jucato> wb DaSkreech
[06:46] <DaSkreech> What justhappened?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> that's the second time today I got auto kicked
[06:46] <BigDaddy> DeSkreech / Jucato - Thanks for the tips. I will have to persue it tomorrow. This appears to be a bigger undertaking than I am willing to take on tonight
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Oh thanks Jucato
[06:46] <DaSkreech> !tab | BigDaddy
[06:46] <ubotu> BigDaddy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:47] <BigDaddy> I'll be damn... that's pretty handy
[06:47] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: Sure tomorrow just jump into #gphoto or #amarok and ask them what the deal is with your model. It may be an easy thing to get sorted or they may hand you tools to help them get it sorted
[06:47] <jagcorvair> !pastebin
[06:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:47] <BigDaddy> thanks DaSkreech...how did you know I was hand typing your name and not tab completing?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Heh.,
[06:48] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: I guessed :)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> rember tab for the Shell also! :)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis>  I almost have my tab key wore out on some machines
[06:48] <LordBacon> then you buy crappy keyboards
[06:48] <BigDaddy> thanks Dr_Willis...lol this is pretty cool.
[06:48] <Jucato> mine is still the left shift, ctrl, and alt keys...
[06:48] <BigDaddy> I get free only keyboards
[06:48] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: Ha wait till we show you the really cool stuff
[06:49] <LordBacon> keyboards are worth monty
[06:49] <LordBacon> err money
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Thank you LordBacon for the  insightfull comentary....
[06:49] <BigDaddy> DaSkreech: I just started IRC when I started Linux
[06:49] <DaSkreech> All hail Python!
[06:49] <BigDaddy> 5 days now
[06:49] <jagcorvair> I am having DVD drive issues. DMESG | TAIL ihere...
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [  774.811330]  sr1: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [  774.811332]      Additional sense: Logical unit communication CRC error (Ultra-DMA/32)
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [  774.811338]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 64
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> I got a lot of the old klicky IBM heavy keyboards around here aomewhere also. :)
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [  774.894043]  cramfs: wrong magic
[06:49] <DaSkreech> BigDaddy: We hold no blame for your imminent addiction. none!!!
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [  774.973772]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sr1.
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [ 1070.917446]  sr 0:0:1:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x08000002
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [ 1070.917451]  sr1: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [ 1070.917454]      Additional sense: Logical unit communication CRC error (Ultra-DMA/32)
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [ 1070.917461]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 64
[06:49] <jagcorvair> [ 1070.919956]  isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr1, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[06:49] <jagcorvair> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38774/
[06:50] <jagcorvair> Sorry, it was supposed to paste the link, not the text
[06:50] <Jucato> jagcorvair: didn't you just see the instructions *not* to paste in here?!?!
[06:50] <BigDaddy> lol, I actually blame bash.org
[06:50] <hasan2> hi all
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Hi hasan2
[06:50] <BigDaddy> love reading that rag.
[06:50] <BigDaddy> IRC is not as witty IRL tho
[06:50] <hasan2> anybody can help on installing html validator for firefox
[06:50] <LordBacon> hasan: why not just use the webdeveloper toolbar or firebug to link to the official validator?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> hasan2 isent that just an extension?
[06:50] <BigDaddy> anyways, I am off to bed. Thanks again for the ideas guys
[06:50] <DaSkreech> http://bash.org/?775778
[06:51] <BigDaddy> bwahaha!
[06:51] <BigDaddy> I love bash man
[06:51] <hasan2> Dr_Wills : sent extension to ?
[06:52] <jhughes> ok aplay -l detected my soundcard
[06:52] <jhughes> but when I got the alsa website
[06:52] <jhughes> I hit a dead end
[06:53] <jagcorvair> DVD drive issues. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38774/
[06:53] <Jucato> any DVD gurus there please help ^^^^
[06:53] <Jucato> dvd/hardware
[06:53] <hasan2> FATAL ERROR : The dynamic C library  contained in the extension file could not be found.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> jagcorvair: Live Cd?
[06:54] <hasan2> after installing html validator for firefox...any help
[06:54] <hasan2> FATAL ERROR : The dynamic C library  contained in the extension file could not be found.
[06:54] <jagcorvair> No. Store-baught DVD
[06:54] <DaSkreech> hasan2: how did you install?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> and it has cramfs? fascinating
[06:54] <jagcorvair> The DVD is "ray"
[06:55] <DaSkreech> What's sr1 ?
[06:55] <jagcorvair> No clue
[06:55] <hasan2> DaSkreech : adds-on -> get extensions -> download from marc's cyberhome
[06:55] <hasan2> and then restart firefox
[06:56] <hasan2> i am using ubuntu
[06:56] <DaSkreech> hasan2: What are you using to connect to IRC?
[06:57] <hasan2> IRC client
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Well duh :)
[06:57] <prak> I have looked at these sites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_project_management_software and http://www.osalt.com/project) for an open source equivalent of microsoft project
[06:57] <prak> but don't really know what's the good one
[06:57] <prak> does anyone have any recommendations?
[06:57] <LordBacon> I just saw a new one being released
[06:57] <DaSkreech> hasan2: In any case connect to the server irc.mozilla.org and join the room Firefox they would have the best details on recent extensions
[06:57] <fyrmedic> Anybody familiar with "Powerpoint" presentations in OpenOffice. Specifically, embedded video, mpg format, within said presentation not playing in the presentation.
[06:58] <DaSkreech> prak: basket? :)
[06:58] <DaSkreech> prak: Hold on
[06:58] <Jucato> prak: kplato, el-planner, (gnome) planner?
[06:58] <LordBacon> prak: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=8023 ?
[06:58] <hasan2> DaSkreech
[06:58] <hasan2> let me try in firefox room ...thanks
[06:58] <LordBacon> prak: http://openproj.org/ is the real homepage
[06:59] <DaSkreech> prak: http://www.utasce.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5823#5823
[06:59] <prak> LordBacon: i tried openproj
[06:59] <prak> but don't like it that much
[06:59] <jhughes> ok I know what driver I need to install/enable
[06:59] <LordBacon> I just use the MS stuff in a VM
[06:59] <jhughes> but not sure if I have to edit a conf file or compile?
[07:00] <ardchoille> Is it possible to keep konq from keeping typed-in history at all?
[07:00] <jhughes> modinfo soundcore does retunr my device
[07:00] <crxyem> Does anyone here use DRDB (aka linux-ha)
[07:00] <LordBacon> I think I'll continue watching bionic woman
[07:00] <jhughes> I need the [hda intel]  driver
[07:01] <jhughes> whats weird is the sound works via headphone but not the speakers
[07:01] <DaSkreech> prak: there is a link from there to a sub category of open source project .. err ... projects
[07:02] <prak> i'll try kplato then
[07:02] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: No need to fill up files with junk I won't use.
[07:02] <Jucato> ardchoille: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> History ?
[07:03] <ardchoille> Jucato: Tried that, the best I can get is "history expires after 1 day"
[07:03] <Agent_bob> ardchoille is disk space that tight?
[07:03] <ardchoille> Jucato: I want no history at all
[07:03] <Jucato> ardchoille: how about settings "Maximum number of URLs" to 0?
[07:03] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: Why keep things I'll never use regardless of disk space?
[07:03] <Jucato> oh you just never knoooow :)
[07:04] <Agent_bob> hehhe    :)
[07:04] <ardchoille> Jucato: Tried that just now, still keeps typed in history after restarting konq
[07:05] <Jucato> don't you have to clear the history first?
[07:05] <ardchoille> Did that, restarted, typed in, restarted, still keeps
[07:06] <Jucato> ardchoille: try either 1) clearing the cache or 2) clearing the cache and disabling it?
[07:07] <LordBacon> !$ is my friend
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is my friend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <Agent_bob> ardchoille also there "was" the convieniant little "del hist" button right beside the address bar....
[07:08] <ardchoille> Jucato: Seems there is no way fo doing it.. it always keeps at least one url
[07:08] <Agent_bob> ardchoille try setting to   -1
[07:09] <Agent_bob> 0 may mean infinite
[07:09] <Jucato> which some new users might think about Konqi
[07:10] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: Thought about that, no way to enter -1
[07:10] <LordBacon> ok, I'm confused now
[07:11] <Jucato> LordBacon: about?
[07:11] <Agent_bob> !\$
[07:11] <LordBacon> /dev/sda1 is type 83, formatted as ext2, and fsck's fine, I can mount it and see all my kernels and grub dir as well as the config required for boot
[07:11] <Jucato> but.. ?
[07:11] <ardchoille> I wonder what  "chmod a-w .kde/share/config/konq_history"   would do
[07:11] <LordBacon> but when I run grub> root (hd0,1) and then setup (hd0), it says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:12] <Agent_bob> sda1 != hd0,1
[07:12] <LordBacon> it's SATA
[07:12] <Agent_bob> sda1 = (hd0,0)
[07:12] <Jucato> Agent_bob is (thankfully) right
[07:13] <Jucato> dunno if GRUB knows sd0
[07:13] <Agent_bob>  /;
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> tabcompletion++
[07:13] <LordBacon> well, I'm cooking some bacon right now to hand out if it works
[07:13] <ardchoille> Jucato: That fixed it
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> Jucato: it doesn't, hd for grub means any hd, sata or otherwise...references bios settings
[07:14] <Jucato> ardchoille: what did?
[07:14] <ardchoille> Jucato:   chmod a-w .kde/share/config/konq_history
[07:14] <Agent_bob> hitmanWilly no.   referancing /boot/grub/devices
[07:14] <Jucato> phooey :P
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> Agent_bob: stage 2 anyway
[07:15] <ardchoille> Jucato: I wonder if perhaps "ln -s /dev/null .kde/share/config/konq_history" is a better option
[07:15] <Agent_bob> ardchoille of course.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> heh...
[07:17] <Agent_bob> i have several of those    /etc/adjtime /etc/localtime /etc/zoneinfo     for example are all /dev/null links
[07:17] <flake> mmmm bacon
[07:18] <avt3kk> can you guys help me?
[07:18] <avt3kk> I have ubuntu ultimate
[07:18] <avt3kk> I guess it restarts to kubutnu
[07:18] <Agent_bob> if we can't, there's no need in asking anyone else.
[07:18] <avt3kk> it did serveral times
[07:18] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: I have some too: ~/.macromedia ~/.recently-used
[07:19] <Agent_bob> ardchoille heh  yeah.
[07:19] <flake> it crashes and restarts?
[07:19] <avt3kk> cant start x11
[07:19] <avt3kk> mine
[07:19] <avt3kk> its the video card driver
[07:20] <avt3kk> I have radeon saphire x800 gto
[07:20] <Agent_bob> use vesa   until you get the driver fix'd
[07:21] <avt3kk> how can I use vesa just dont install any drivers from ubuntu ultimate
[07:21] <avt3kk> close envy?
[07:21] <avt3kk> will it install safe mode as is?
[07:21] <avt3kk> I hope
[07:22] <DaSkreech> !envy
[07:23] <Agent_bob> edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf    change the  Driver  "Nvidia"    to    Driver  "vesa"  that will let you    startx      it won't fix your problem.  it will only make the gui accessable
[07:23] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: why is he installing nvidia drivers for a Radeon?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech beets me.
[07:24] <Agent_bob> i just got here.
[07:24] <DaSkreech> You would almost think that would crash the machine
[07:24] <Agent_bob> nah   just X
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: probably would just fail to load the module
[07:25] <avt3kk> ty DaSkreech :D
[07:25] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: and fall back to what?
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: which would not allow X to start
[07:25] <DaSkreech> ah there we go
[07:25] <avt3kk> what
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: cmd line :)
[07:25] <Agent_bob> yep
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah nice and dependable
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech: but wouldn't crash the whole system, tho
[07:26] <Agent_bob> "just works"  :)))
[07:26] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: very good point
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> XD
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> unless of course you're using a framebuffer...lol
[07:27] <avt3kk> anyone know about how to setup ubuntu ultimate with some type of safe mode
[07:27] <Agent_bob> !dvd > Agent_bob
[07:27] <what_if> elo' channel !
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> btw, what is "Ubuntu Ultimate"?
[07:28] <avt3kk> ubuntu doesnt support it
[07:28] <avt3kk> im fked
[07:28] <ardchoille> hitmanWilly: it isn't supported
[07:28] <flake> think UU is for gamers
[07:28] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: can you get to a VT ?
[07:28] <avt3kk> a what
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> ok, so ubuntu with cedega...
[07:28] <avt3kk> its the live cd
[07:28] <avt3kk> dvd
[07:28] <DaSkreech> yeah
[07:28] <avt3kk> im in the live dvd
[07:29] <avt3kk> cant install it
[07:29] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: when you boot your machine X crashes?
[07:29] <Agent_bob> vt == tty == console
[07:29] <DaSkreech> ohhhh
[07:29] <avt3kk> yes
[07:29] <DaSkreech> wait
[07:29] <DaSkreech> where are you?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> installing?
[07:29] <avt3kk> live dvd
[07:29] <DaSkreech> or after install it crashes ?
[07:29] <avt3kk> to sata hd
[07:29] <avt3kk> after install reboot
[07:30] <avt3kk> does it even see sata I dunno
[07:30] <DaSkreech> what does it see?
[07:30] <Agent_bob> of course it does.
[07:30] <avt3kk> grey screen
[07:30] <avt3kk> almost black
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> avt3kk: ok, can you get to a cmd line? ie ctrl-alt-f1?
[07:31] <Agent_bob> black screen of failed vidio drivers
[07:31] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: can you mount your drive?
[07:32] <avt3kk> um
[07:32] <prak> is it possible to type in "sudo remove -l /media/usbdrivename/" in terminal to unmount the usb drive?
[07:32] <Agent_bob> and if you didn't use fbcon it wouldn't affect the console   but seeing that *buntu insists on using fbcon    a lot of the black screen problems require some tricky boot options...
[07:33] <Agent_bob> Parkotron umount
[07:33] <avt3kk> when it starts the dvd theres an option to install with driver
[07:33] <avt3kk> I have abit cd
[07:33] <avt3kk> should I try that
[07:34] <mefisto_> prak: what's the -l for?
[07:34] <prak> lazy unmount, mefisto?
[07:34] <avt3kk> this is driving me nuts
[07:34] <prak> or would "sudo remove /dev/usbdrive" do?
[07:34] <Agent_bob> and what does "remove" do mefisto_ for that matter...  :)
[07:35] <Agent_bob> prak does your system have a "remove" command ?
[07:35] <avt3kk> is there a type of safe graphics type thing for me to use on the install?
[07:35] <prak> Agent_bob, i'm not sure
[07:35] <mefisto_> prak: the command is umount, not remove. Agent_bob: just wondering how that whole line came into "existence"
[07:35] <prak> i think remove is for deleting files
[07:36] <Agent_bob> prak ?
[07:36] <avt3kk> you guys are the only ones that have been helping me cool :D ty
[07:36] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: you have an install already?
[07:36] <avt3kk> well it wont boot
[07:36] <prak> still not too familiar with bash script commands yet
[07:36] <avt3kk> it looks like it loads it all'
[07:36] <avt3kk> but the screen goes black
[07:36] <Agent_bob> GNU commands
[07:36] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: make a directory and mount it
[07:36] <prak> "remove" coming from the pop-up "remove drive safely"
[07:36] <avt3kk> gnu?
[07:37] <avt3kk> i cant do that
[07:37] <Agent_bob> GNU = Gnu is Not Unix
[07:37] <avt3kk> why you think I got ubuntu because its easy lol
[07:37] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: ha ha :-)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: ok we will walk you through some stuff
[07:37] <avt3kk> ty
[07:37] <DaSkreech> this is kubuntu or ubuntu?
[07:37] <Agent_bob> avt3kk    GNU-Linux   see   gnu.org
[07:37] <avt3kk> ubuntu ultimate
[07:37] <DaSkreech> ewwww
[07:37] <avt3kk> it reboots to kubuntu
[07:37] <avt3kk> it doo
[07:37] <DaSkreech> ok open gnome-terminal
[07:38] <avt3kk> k
[07:38] <mefisto_> prak: if you want to learn shell commands, http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php is an easy-to-read introduction
[07:38] <Agent_bob> !cli | prak
[07:38] <ubotu> prak: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:38] <DaSkreech> type mkdir install
[07:38] <DaSkreech> then sudo mount /dev/hd and press tab twice
[07:39] <prak> mefisto_, thanks for the link
[07:39] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech sata  may need  sd??
[07:39] <prak> i'll definitely bookmark it for reference
[07:39] <avt3kk> it says theres already a path
[07:40] <LordBacon> the cli is my friend
[07:40] <avt3kk> mkdir is /bin/mkdir
[07:40] <avt3kk> install is /usr/bin/install
[07:40] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: Sorry? at which point?
[07:40] <LordBacon> off-by-one errors are not :/
[07:40] <avt3kk> type mkdriinstall
[07:40] <avt3kk> it showed that right after
[07:40] <Agent_bob> LordBacon ?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> mkdir<space> install
[07:41] <LordBacon> Agent_bob: my entire boot problem after resizing/moving my partitions was because I had sda1 as (hd0,1)
[07:41] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech incase you didn't notice   he typed type
[07:41] <avt3kk> file exsists
[07:41] <sunilonln> does anyone know why the kde screensaver won't cover the entire screen while running compiz fusion?
[07:41] <LordBacon> sunilonln: I had that problem at the office too
[07:41] <Agent_bob> LordBacon yeah   grub'ism   and it's nomenclature
[07:41] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: you have a directory named install already?
[07:41] <ardchoille> sunilonln: /join #ubuntu-effects
[07:42] <LordBacon> anyway, virtualbox, or vmware to have a vista vm?
[07:42] <avt3kk> ya it posted the stuff I posted
[07:42] <avt3kk> right after
[07:42] <avt3kk> I put a space
[07:42] <sunilonln> thanks ardchoille
[07:42] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: did you type the word type? :)
[07:42] <avt3kk> noo
[07:42] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:42] <DaSkreech> so you have a dir named install
[07:42] <DaSkreech> cool
[07:42] <avt3kk> ya
[07:43] <DaSkreech> type sudo mount /dev/hd and press tab twice
[07:43] <Agent_bob> tty2 [greg$compaq:~]  type mkdir install
[07:43] <Agent_bob> mkdir is /bin/mkdir
[07:43] <Agent_bob> install is /usr/bin/install
[07:43] <Agent_bob> tty2 [greg$compaq:~] 
[07:43] <DaSkreech> tell me if it beeps or gives you a list
[07:43] <avt3kk> beep beep lol'
[07:43] <avt3kk> thats what it did
[07:44] <LordBacon> is there any product that can do what fusion does for mac, but for linux?
[07:44] <Agent_bob> i just happened to notice the text he posted and identified it...
[07:44] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: ok take off the hd and put sd and press tab twice
[07:44] <ubuntujoe> could I ask a favor of someone in here?
[07:45] <avt3kk> it changed it to sda
[07:45] <avt3kk> ?
[07:45] <ubuntujoe> I'm in windows right now but I need a file uncompressed
[07:45] <Agent_bob> ubuntujoe sure.   whether or not it will happen.... ?
[07:45] <ubuntujoe> http://download.gna.org/codewiseblog/
[07:45] <ubuntujoe> but I'm in windows
[07:45] <ubuntujoe> the most recent file there.
[07:45] <Agent_bob> ubuntujoe i'll look.  how big is it ?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: good did you  get a list of numbers after the sda
[07:46] <avt3kk> da is that right
[07:46] <ubuntujoe> 424k
[07:46] <DaSkreech> like sda1 sda2 sda 5 ?
[07:46] <avt3kk> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /
[07:46] <avt3kk> /   tmp/
[07:46] <Agent_bob> ubuntujoe which file ?
[07:46] <avt3kk> no
[07:46] <LordBacon> ubuntujoe: alzip, winzip, 7zip all do tar and bz2
[07:46] <DaSkreech> ubuntujoe: huh? a file uncompressed?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> get 7-zip
[07:46] <DaSkreech> or winrar
[07:47] <ubuntujoe> it just gives me an out file.
[07:47] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: interesting
[07:47] <Agent_bob> ultimate zip   can do it too
[07:47] <mefisto_> ubuntujoe: 7-zip is free, and a small download, and uncompresses fast
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: can you step in here? :)
[07:47] <ubuntujoe> I know.
[07:47] <avt3kk> this is gay
[07:47] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: when you boot up how far does it get?
[07:47] <avt3kk> I should put my hd clone back
[07:48] <ubuntujoe> I just don't under stand why it just gives me a solid file.
[07:48] <avt3kk> looks like it loads it all but screen goes black
[07:48] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: You get a grub menu?
[07:48] <avt3kk> eror loading x11
[07:48] <avt3kk> nooo
[07:48] <avt3kk> only see term
[07:48] <dsmith_> anyone here use a panasonic cf-51?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Do you get a screen with a progrss bar?
[07:49] <avt3kk> strange
[07:49] <avt3kk> no
[07:49] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: or a screen with a lot of writing going up saying OK Ok OK OK ?
[07:49] <avt3kk> o wait
[07:49] <Agent_bob> dsmith_ checking to see if the hardware is supported, or have a specific issue ?
[07:49] <avt3kk> ok ya
[07:49] <avt3kk> I see that
[07:49] <avt3kk> alot of ok
[07:49] <DaSkreech> right that's interesting
[07:50] <dsmith_> Agent_bob: I need to cmd line the drives and install them
[07:50] <Agent_bob> you mean                                  [ ok ] 
[07:50] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: do you have raid?
[07:50] <avt3kk> radeon saphire x800 gto vivdo card
[07:50] <dsmith_> *drivers, I meant
[07:50] <avt3kk> video
[07:50] <avt3kk> no
[07:50] <avt3kk> no raid
[07:50] <us> Hi. Can someone here tell me how I can run the restricted driver manager?
[07:50] <dsmith_> I am partly there
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: he has no partitions
[07:50] <dsmith_> gcc error
[07:50] <avt3kk> nothin
[07:50] <DaSkreech> at least as far as I can tell
[07:50] <dsmith_> :/
[07:50] <DaSkreech> !restricted
[07:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <avt3kk> even after its all setup it never works
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:51] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: yeah cause it seems for some reason that you get corrupted drivers
[07:51] <avt3kk> I have like 8 minutes before I sleep guys
[07:51] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech ?          avt3kk enter this string and pastebin the output.        cat /proc/partitions
[07:51] <avt3kk> k
[07:51] <Agent_bob> dsmith_ you have    build-essential    installed ?
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: hes on a live Cd
[07:51] <avt3kk> 8     0  244140625 sda
[07:51] <avt3kk>    7     0    2261688 loop0
[07:52] <dsmith_> one min
[07:52] <avt3kk> I deleted it all I think
[07:52] <DaSkreech> ack
[07:52] <dsmith_> this is a new lappy
[07:52] <moj0rising> DaSkreech: was that !restricted for me?
[07:52] <Agent_bob> avt3kk yeah   you have no partitions.
[07:52] <dsmith_> plg name for build essentials?
[07:52] <dsmith_> PKG name
[07:52] <DaSkreech> moj0rising: if it helps then yes :)
[07:52] <avt3kk> well man when it was all setup it didnt work
[07:52] <moj0rising> It didn't :(
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: but he boots from that drive
[07:52] <moj0rising> sorry
[07:53] <avt3kk> so I deleted it all
[07:53] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech probably not anymore
[07:53] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: ohhhhhhh you deleted it all :)
[07:53] <moj0rising> Is there a way I can find how to run the driver manager?
[07:53] <avt3kk> I tryed installing like 4 times took all night
[07:53] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: Duuuuh
[07:53] <avt3kk> even when its there
[07:53] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: did you try a normal kubuntu cd ?
[07:53] <avt3kk> it still messed up
[07:53] <Agent_bob> dsmith_ you have    build-essential    installed ?
[07:53] <moj0rising> I've searched the forums and I'm sure it's buried somewhere but I can't find it.
[07:53] <avt3kk> didnt work either
[07:53] <Agent_bob> package name               ^
[07:53] <dsmith_> Agent_bob: doesn't appear so
[07:53] <avt3kk> same cr@py grey screen
[07:54] <Agent_bob> !b-e | dsmith_
[07:54] <ubotu> dsmith_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:54] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: oh you have one?
[07:54] <dsmith_> yea its working
[07:54] <avt3kk> what about this
[07:54] <avt3kk> edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf    change the  Driver  "Nvidia"    to    Driver  "vesa"  that will let you    startx      it won't fix your problem.  it will only make the gui accessable
[07:54] <avt3kk> I have 1
[07:54] <avt3kk> threw it out
[07:54] <avt3kk> after grey screen
[07:54] <dsmith_> thx agent bob
[07:55] <avt3kk> lol
[07:55] <khaije1> dsmith_: also read up on the checkinstall package, can't say enough good about it
[07:55] <dsmith_> I knew I was forgetting somehting
[07:55] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: Right thats' what I was trying to get you to do but you erased your drive
[07:55] <dsmith_> ok
[07:55] <avt3kk> o sry
[07:55] <avt3kk> oops
[07:55] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: do an install again and we can help you get it to at least boot
[07:55] <avt3kk> cool
[07:55] <avt3kk> I will be in here thursday
[07:55] <avt3kk> sleepin soon
[07:56] <avt3kk> dad going to get on my butt
[07:56] <avt3kk> soon
[07:56] <Agent_bob> avt3kk or ATI  or what ever     to vesa     but  for the record,   the xorg.conf you are using in the live CD, if you install then just copy that xorg.conf over it will work on the hd just like it does on the live CD
[07:57] <dettoaltrimenti> I'm using KTorrent and there are some torrents that if I try to remove them from the list it makes ktorrent crash- is there any way I can delete these from somewhere else?
[07:57] <avt3kk> ty
[07:57] <avt3kk> printing that
[07:57] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech i think his propritary drive and the  fbcon were hosing the vidio output.   it was booting.  jsut headless.
[07:58] <DaSkreech> his what drive?
[07:59] <Agent_bob> i have seen that  grey screen of bewilderment.   i can change tty's but still can't see anything.     so i loged in and typed eject  and the drive stuck it's tongue out at me...   therefore i knew it was just the ati+fbcon screwing the vidio
[08:00] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech driver   sorry   typo
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ah right
[08:00] <avt3kk> bob and daskreech you guys are great :D
[08:00] <avt3kk> I printed the help you gave me
[08:01] <Agent_bob> avt3kk hold one sec
[08:01] <avt3kk> k
[08:02] <avt3kk> ubuntu ultimate has alot alot of stuff inside
[08:02] <Agent_bob> avt3kk this is a close aproximation that you might enter for a help with trubble shooting that.   after the install and before you reboot. >>>  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /target/root/
[08:02] <avt3kk> k
[08:03] <Agent_bob> that way you will have a "known to work"  config file in your root's home   that root will use when you type  startx   as root.   if needed
[08:03] <Agent_bob> and we all know that running X as root is a bad idea.
[08:03] <Agent_bob> but it's a worse idea to have a system that you can't use.
[08:04] <avt3kk> so type this and it will fix it?
[08:04] <Agent_bob> i didn't say it will fix it.   i said you will have a "known good" config file.   we can use that in helping you fix it.
[08:04] <avt3kk> I had some errors when it started up x11
[08:04] <DaSkreech> avt3kk: No but it's a good place to start for a workable computer
[08:05] <avt3kk> it cant start this and that because I started safe mode
[08:05] <avt3kk> koool
[08:05] <avt3kk> goodnight guys see you after I finish work thursday today
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Night
[08:06] <Agent_bob> lets see if we can get you crawling before we start the 440 sprint.
[08:06] <avt3kk> new york time here
[08:06] <avt3kk> orpbly back 7pm or 630
[08:06] <avt3kk> k cya ty
[08:07] <Agent_bob> and DaSkreech good job on that one.   kept him calm and willing, probably better than i would have.
[08:08] <Agent_bob> that's why i didn't "jump in"  when you asked.   that and busy here.
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: yeah as long as you don't ask Jucato or nixternal I have a calming effect :)
[08:11] <Agent_bob> i think being busy "and some what frustrated" makes me less patient with other thing.
[08:12] <Agent_bob> yeah but what does Jucato know... except networking...  :)
[08:12] <Agent_bob> heh
[08:13] <DaSkreech> ha ha ha
[08:13] <Jucato> hm??
[08:13] <Agent_bob> am i leaving ?
[08:13] <Agent_bob> here's your hat, here's your coat, what's your hurry....  :)
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Well that does give him power over ip addresses and domain names :)
[08:14] <Agent_bob> he really does know more than he likes to admit.  but that's been a standing joke about him being a network guru   for years now.
[08:17] <Jucato> um.. still talking about moi?
[08:17] <Jucato> btw, I'm not standing
[08:17] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:17] <Agent_bob> ok.
[08:17] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:18] <Jucato> er.. study
[08:18] <Agent_bob> < !enter
[08:18] <Jucato> sh'ism...
[08:18] <Agent_bob> not really.   not unless !enter was a file.
[08:19] <Agent_bob> psyudo
[08:20] <Agent_bob> eeek  i nearly deleted  ~/.true  then happened to think "that's my login shell"    </blinks>
[08:24] <frb> how do I enable numlock on boot in ubuntu? my bios has it enabled already
[08:24] <Agent_bob> frb package "numlock"
[08:24] <Jucato> if you don't need it at login, you can set KDE to turn it on *after* logging in
[08:24] <Agent_bob> or do you mean when kde starts ?
[08:25] <Agent_bob> yeah what Jucato said   ^
[08:25] <frb> I don't need it when I login, but it's useful when I actually do stuff
[08:25] <Agent_bob> kde then
[08:26] <WaltzingAlong> kde now
[08:26] <intelikey> kde fore
[08:26] <Jucato> O.o
[08:26] <Jucato> I'm seeing doubles...
[08:26] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:26] <kaminix2> What does "Load average" mean? It's quite common when measuring performance thingies, and consist of three numbers. For example: 4.63   5.81   4.75 (my current ^^)
[08:27] <frb> it usually means how many processes are having to wait for their CPU time
[08:27] <Jucato> frb: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard. the setting is there
[08:27] <frb> it's a lot more complicated than that, but I don't really know well
[08:27] <Agent_bob> how many are logged in...   tty24 [root#compaq:~]  uptime
[08:27] <Agent_bob>  20:31:01 up  1:31,  0 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[08:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: :-) the man I sorely wanted to bother
[08:28] <Agent_bob> let me guess,    it's me.
[08:28] <kaminix2> Agent_bob: So now I have three users logged in?
[08:28] <Agent_bob> kaminix2 idk.   you tell me.
[08:29] <Agent_bob> do i have none ?
[08:29] <kaminix2> Agent_bob: Well it says 0 users in yours.
[08:29] <DaSkreech> intelikey: how do I reassign interface name?
[08:29] <kaminix2> Hmm... mine says 1 user logged in.
[08:30] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech ummm where ?
[08:30] <intelikey> DaSkreech ^ that's me.
[08:30] <kaminix2> "and the system load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes." <--- That's a start.
[08:30] <DaSkreech> ha ha joker
[08:30] <Agent_bob> serious.
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: My network interfaces
[08:31] <DaSkreech>  one of them is not getting a alias
[08:31] <DaSkreech> and one of the them has two ports  one of which was kissed by lightning so I'd prefer if that 1/2 of the network card gets no name
[08:32] <Agent_bob> ok.  try in /etc/hostname
[08:33] <DaSkreech> Sorry?
[08:33] <Agent_bob> and do remember that i'm hardly qualified to answer network questions.
[08:33] <DaSkreech> that sets the name of the computer
[08:33] <DaSkreech> Yeah but you seem to dabble a lot into how the computer starts up
[08:34] <DaSkreech> I just wanted to know how the network interfaces got assigned names
[08:34] <DaSkreech> cause there is no /dev/eth
[08:34] <DaSkreech> They must be getting assigned from somewhere
[08:34] <intelikey> /etc/network/interfaces
[08:35] <stdin> afaik, the kernel sets the name from the info the bios gives
[08:35] <WaltzingAlong> DaSkreech: i think you can assign names (eth1 and such) to them based on MAC
[08:35] <WaltzingAlong> DaSkreech: in that case you may want /etc/iftab
[08:36] <intelikey> DaSkreech and stdin i may not be understanding the Q
[08:36] <DaSkreech> stdin: yeah one of them isn't getting a name at all so I need to figure out how to assign a name to it
[08:36] <stdin> well, if you know the MAC address WaltzingAlong's advice may help
[08:36] <WaltzingAlong> iftab contains the interface table.      man iftab
[08:37] <intelikey> DaSkreech do you mean the device has no name as in  eth?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> correct
[08:37] <DaSkreech> I need to assign it one
[08:37] <DaSkreech> it's there in lspci
[08:37] <intelikey> oh  that normally means you need to "modprobe the driver"
[08:37] <DaSkreech> and that auto gives it a name?
[08:37] <intelikey> or wait.
[08:37] <frb> now if only firefox would let me middle-click to and scroll with the pointer
[08:37] <intelikey> where are you looking for the device ?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig -a
[08:38] <intelikey> DaSkreech yes.
[08:38] <DaSkreech> great. now can I take away the name of a device?
[08:39] <intelikey> normally  albeit maybe not always.  if you insert the module needed then the device will "appear"
[08:39] <intelikey> linux is good that way :)
[08:39] <eMaX_> hi all
[08:39] <intelikey> DaSkreech reverse the proccess of giving it a name generally works.
[08:40] <intelikey> modprobe -r "it's driver"
[08:40] <DaSkreech> intelikey: here is the kicker. It's a chipset with two ports
[08:40] <DaSkreech>  I need one of them the other is dead
[08:40] <eMaX_> how can I get rid of "Device Discovery Info" messages I get whenever a bluetooth device is detected? I don't want to switch off bt altogether as I am using it myself. I just am annoyed by the sometimes 10,000,000 konqueror windows opening when I am on a train station.
[08:40] <intelikey> then you may need module parameters.   /etc/module.conf
[08:41] <intelikey> err with s maybe.
[08:41] <mefisto_> how do I change the name of my machine, as in the "dhcppc0" in mefisto@dhcppc0
[08:42] <WaltzingAlong> mefisto_: /etc/hostname
[08:42] <DaSkreech> or hostname command if you just want to play with it
[08:42] <intelikey> mefisto_ do you want to actually change the ip or just the prompt ?
[08:42] <mefisto_> intelikey: just the prompt
[08:42] <DaSkreech>  /etc/hostname takes effect on boot the hostname command takes effect now
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Or better
[08:43] <intelikey> export PS1='your new pormpt'
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !hostname
[08:43] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:43] <WaltzingAlong> better -thanks
[08:44] <intelikey> i asked because some don't like the looks of a ubuntu bash prompt at all.
[08:45] <intelikey> it's easily configurable.
[08:45] <intelikey> and all in user space.
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Well isn't all of bash in userspace
[08:45] <frb> last I checked
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Come to think of it isn't that kinda the point of a shell :)
[08:45] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech nope
[08:45] <frb> I wouldn't be surprised if someone put it in the kernel
[08:46] <Agent_bob> Jucato my PS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '
[08:47] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech some things in bash are not adjustable for the user.   unset UID   or  export UID=3       and see what happens
[08:47] <Jucato> Agent_bob: huh?
[08:47] <Agent_bob> " Jucato/#kubuntu configures his prompt to look like intelikey"  <<<>>> <Agent_bob> Jucato my PS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '
[08:48] <flake> I just discovered the Add/Remove programs in the menu actually function as both ADD and Remove :)
[08:48] <Agent_bob> hehhe flake  :)
[08:48] <Jucato> Agent_bob: I said "look like intelikey" not "look like intelikey's "
[08:48] <Jucato> unless you really look like that :P
[08:49] <intelikey> S:
[08:51] <Agent_bob> nuffin
[08:53] <frb> I want to archive my DVDs on my HD to reduce noise from the system during playback, what can I use to do copy the movies to the HD?
[08:54] <se7en^Of^9> somebody know how to get the brother 115c working
[08:54] <intelikey> frb could dd the disk to an image file i guess
[08:55] <Jucato> the borg doesn't know? O.o
[08:55] <frb> intelikey: can I still play it with kaffeine that way?
[08:55] <WaltzingAlong> frb: dd, dvdbackup, cp, and so on
[08:55] <Jucato> !printers | se7en^Of^9
[08:55] <ubotu> se7en^Of^9: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:55] <Jucato> we are th3 b0rg!
[08:55] <intelikey> assemalate it se7en^Of^9
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> frb: yes with the iso of the dvd you should still be able to play that. either you could mount it as a drive or open it directly, for example with vlc
[08:57] <intelikey> actually se7en^Of^9 brother printers are quite a sore spot for me.  i tried for a weak to get one working correctly, and finally got an hp.
[08:57] <intelikey> Jucato you can't you didn't misspell it correctly to affect me...
[08:57] <Jucato> you probably need another week to work on it, or maybe you were too weak?
[08:57] <intelikey> :)
[08:57] <Jucato> :P
[08:58] <intelikey> ues more A's  :)
[08:58] <intelikey> use even    gosh...
[08:59] <frb> dvdbackup isn't even working :/
[08:59] <intelikey> i did get it to print ok  but never did get the scanner working.
[09:00] <WaltzingAlong> frb: had you tried dd? dd if=/dev/dvdrom of=mymovie.iso         then later              vlc mymovie.iso
[09:00] <frb> WaltzingAlong: yeah, the dd errors out pretty quickly saying that there is a bad sector
[09:00] <intelikey> frb   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/mountpoint/image-dir/filename.iso
[09:00] <intelikey> ooops WaltzingAlong beet me to it.
[09:01] <intelikey> ah propritary copy protection.   don't you love  DRM  and all it stands for.
[09:02] <frb> even trying to play it with kaffiene+xine stops because it says I don't have "DVD Navigator"
[09:02] <frb> (haven't googled that one yet)
[09:02] <Jucato> DVD Navigator?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: watch star trek?
[09:03] <WaltzingAlong> intelikey: darn dvorak anyway
[09:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: a bit. not a fanatic
[09:08] <frb> ok, maybe that dvd is too scratched
[09:16] <jussi01> !test
[09:16] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:16] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I'm trying to install a package that needs me to explicitly say where lua headers are.  How can I find out where they are?
[09:17] <snowdonkey> I've already installed liblua5.1-0-dev
[09:17] <DaSkreech> snowdonkey: You can open adept look for the package click on details then installed files
[09:18] <snowdonkey> DaSkreech: wow, yea I see them now.  Thx.
[09:18] <DaSkreech> :-)
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Sure wish I could take a look at that pre install
[09:19] <boubbin> i changed some settings in kmix and no i cant hear any sounds, amarok/kaffeine freesez when trying to play anything, how to restore defaukt settings to kmix(alsa) or fix this ?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> You could purge kmix and reinstall
[09:23] <mefisto_> what settings? from the menu? or something in the mixer itself?
[09:25] <boubbin> mefisto_ i opened the kmix mixer window
[09:26] <boubbin> and changed almost every setting there are available, i think it broked somehow when i chnaged the "multritrack internal clock" -type of settings there
[09:26] <boubbin> DaSkreech apt-get remove kmix ?
[09:26] <DaSkreech> That would keep the settings
[09:27] <boubbin> how to restore the defaults ?
[09:29] <boubbin> DaSkreech how do you mean purge ?
[09:30] <boubbin> i have fresh backup for /etc/ would it fix it if i return the copy ?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> apt-get remove kmix --purge
[09:30] <boubbin> apt also wants to remove kde* kdemultimedia* kmix* kubuntu-desktop*
[09:30] <boubbin> is it ok ?
[09:31] <mefisto_> wouldn't deleting kmixrc do it?
[09:31] <boubbin> where is that ?
[09:31] <Jucato> DaSkreech: that would still keep his user modified settings
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Oh Sorry I missed what he had changed
[09:32] <emilsedgh> kde, kdemultimedia and kubuntu-desktop are all metapackages, there is no problem when theyre going to be removed
[09:32] <DaSkreech> emilsedgh: New solution :)
[09:32] <boubbin> ok
[09:32] <Jucato> except that what he'll remove won't solve it
[09:32] <boubbin> ok, so do you have other solutions for it ? :)
[09:33] <DaSkreech> remove kmixrc
[09:33] <mefisto_> boubbin: it's at ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc
[09:33] <boubbin> ok
[09:34] <boubbin> then the system will create a new one when kde is started ?
[09:34] <kaminix2> When playing vobs in kaffeine it turns all blue. mplayer works fine, just kaffeine. How do I fix this without rebooting?
[09:34] <boubbin> so i need to reboot the x ?
[09:34] <Jucato> you just need to logout
[09:34] <Jucato> or actually just restart kmix
[09:35] <mefisto_> Jucato: that's what I would have guessed :)
[09:36] <boubbin> Jucato didnt change anything, the settings are still there :P
[09:37] <Jucato> did you close kmix before removing kmixrc?
[09:37] <boubbin> nope :P
[09:37] <boubbin> ill try that
[09:38] <mefisto_> there's also kmixctrlrc. would that maybe hold those changed settings?
[09:39] <boubbin> yeah
[09:40] <boubbin> wtf i remove kmix* and it still keeps the settings :)
[09:40] <jimmacdonald> who jimmacdonald
[09:40] <jimmacdonald> clear
[09:40] <jimmacdonald> FSCK! LOL
[09:40] <boubbin> ls: /home/boubbin/.kde/share/config/kmix*: No such file or directory
[09:41] <Jucato> hm....
[09:41] <Jucato> it just might have modified some other setting outside of kmix...
[09:42] <boubbin> i can access the very same settings with alsa-mixer command
[09:42] <boubbin> so they must be located in alsas config files somewhere
[09:44] <mefisto_> ... /usr/share/apps/kmix/kmixui.rc maybe?
[09:45] <Jucato> um...
[09:45] <Jucato> unless he ran kmix w/ root privs, that wouldn't have been changed
[09:45] <Jucato> he did say that it was working until he did something
[09:46] <boubbin> yeah
[09:46] <mefisto_> there's /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kmixrc would copying that one back fix it?
[09:46] <boubbin> i dont think its ran by root..
[09:46] <Jucato> um nope
[09:47] <boubbin> well when i renamed alsa.conf from /usr/share/alsa/ it did change settings in kmix, they were very fucked up, only one "volume setting bar"
[09:48] <stdin> !ohmy | boubbin
[09:48] <boubbin> :P
[09:48] <ubotu> boubbin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <boubbin> sorry :/
[09:50] <boubbin> yeah everything just freezes, flash, mp3, avi..
[09:52] <mefisto_> wait, if boubbin changed switches that affect the soundcard, eg souncard clock, it will probably stay that way until something changes it. like a reboot.
[09:53] <boubbin> i rebooted already
[09:54] <boubbin> is it possible to reinstall the soundcard somehow ?
[09:54] <mefisto_> boubbin: rebooted after you deleted kmixrc?
[09:54] <boubbin> nope
[09:55] <mefisto_> its worth a try
[09:55] <boubbin> ok no theres nothing in: ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*
[09:55] <boubbin> should i remove any other kmixrc 's somewhere ?
[09:56] <boubbin> before the booting ?
[09:56] <asu_gering> test
[09:57] <mefisto_> boubbin: all I have under /home/* is kmixrc and kmixctrlrc
[09:58] <boubbin> ok i reboot now.
[10:02] <boubbin> still the same :/
[10:03] <boubbin> hmm is it possible that i broked my soundcard whilst changing the settings ?
[10:06] <mefisto_> boubbin: have you got kmix running now?
[10:07] <boubbin> yeah
[10:07] <mefisto_> find the clock setting you changed. what is it set to now?
[10:08] <boubbin> ill take a screenshot for you
[10:08] <boubbin> http://boubbin.hopto.org/boubbin/kmix.jpg
[10:10] <berkes> is it possible to disable stylesheets in konqueror?
[10:10] <mefisto_> change IEC958 both to pcm out
[10:11] <boubbin> done
[10:11] <mefisto_> H/W both to digital mixer
[10:11] <boubbin> yeah
[10:11] <mefisto_> and both clock settings to 44100
[10:12] <boubbin> done those, deemphasis still at "off"
[10:12] <mefisto_> yes, but it shouldn't matter
[10:12] <boubbin> ok
[10:16] <boubbin> no :/
[10:17] <mefisto_> playing files still crashes them?
[10:18] <stefan_c69> i have this weird problem
[10:19] <stefan_c69> kmail can't connect to my mailserver via a wireless connection, configured with wpa_supplicant
[10:19] <boubbin> mefisto_ yeah
[10:20] <boubbin> mefisto_ i created new user wit hroot and tryed the sounds with it, kmix doesnt have nay settings within the new users kde session..
[10:20] <stefan_c69> when i plug my ethernet cable in, it all works
[10:22] <mefisto_> boubbin: do: lsmod |grep ice17 does anything come up?
[10:23] <boubbin> mefisto_ alot of stuff
[10:23] <mefisto_> snd_ice1712 ?
[10:23] <mefisto_> or snd_ice1724 ?
[10:24] <boubbin> http://boubbin.hopto.org/~keilordi/lsmod.txt
[10:25] <boubbin> so  its snd_ice1712
[10:25] <mefisto_> you have the same soundcard as me it seems, but different manufacturer
[10:26] <boubbin> terratec ewx 24/96
[10:26] <mefisto_> you could try envy24control mixer and abandon kmix altogether. that's what I did
[10:26] <mefisto_> I have m-audio audiophile 24/96
[10:28] <mefisto_> boubbin: install alsa-tools-gui
[10:29] <boubbin> i did
[10:29] <boubbin> i doesnt really solve it, i mean using the envy24control
[10:29] <boubbin> i closed kmix and oopened the envy
[10:29] <mefisto_> quit kmix and run envy24control
[10:30] <boubbin> but speaker-test still returns nothing
[10:30] <boubbin> and amarok freezes
[10:30] <mefisto_> I'm out of suggestions. but the envy24control mixer is much better for controlling your soundcard that kmix
[10:31] <mefisto_> boubbin: are you recording music with it?
[10:31] <boubbin> nope
[10:33] <mefisto_> have you tried reconfiguring alsa? (not sure of the command to do it)
[10:33] <boubbin> in suse there was alsaconf
[10:33] <boubbin> but i dont know what it is in ubuntu
[10:35] <mefisto_> I think it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa  does anyone know if that's right?
[10:38] <stefan_c69> alsaconf would do the trick
[10:38] <stefan_c69> well
[10:38] <stefan_c69> sudo alsaconf
[10:38] <boubbin> sudo: alsaconf: command not found
[10:39] <stefan_c69> well
[10:39] <stefan_c69> that's weird
[10:39] <mefisto_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[10:40] <stefan_c69> apt-get install alsa-tools
[10:40] <boubbin> mefisto_ returns nothing
[10:40] <stefan_c69> doesn't work either
[10:40] <boubbin> stefan_c69 already installed
[10:41] <stefan_c69> looks like there is no alsaconf in kubuntu
[10:42] <boubbin> yeah :)
[10:43] <mefisto_> boubbin: I'm out of ideas. you could try looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 but it's a loooong thread
[10:43] <stefan_c69> lame :(
[10:44] <boubbin> maybe i just reinstall the system
[10:44] <flaccid> try windows :p
[10:44] <boubbin> :)
[10:46] <mefisto_> linux audio sucks
[10:47] <flaccid> many people have never had a problem, many people have
[10:47] <flaccid> 50% is still a bad rate..
[10:47] <mefisto_> has Jucato used linux to do music production?
[10:47] <flaccid> and yes linux audio sux bad. nothing was wrong with OSS
[10:47] <Jucato> nope
[10:47] <flaccid> lol
[10:47] <Jucato> afaik OSS just got an open source license
[10:48] <Jucato> which should remove that stumbling block
[10:48] <flaccid> there never was an actual block
[10:48] <Jucato> afaik that was
[10:48] <flaccid> why is it called open sound system then?
[10:49] <flaccid> gplv2 iirc
[10:50] <Jucato> http://www.linuxpr.com/releases/9766.html
[10:50] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System
[10:51] <Jucato> In July 2007, 4Front Technologies released sources for OSS under CDDL and GPL licenses.
[10:51] <Jucato> same source
[10:51] <flaccid> now i understand what happened. basically this makes linux and unix look like amateurs..
[10:51] <flaccid> i can read
[10:51] <Jucato> fine
[10:51] <flaccid> didn't mean to be rude jucy
[10:53] <flaccid> i guess this is all looks hopeful, but it doesn't help in standardising sound for unix systems, its a bit late now
[10:55] <flaccid> thanks for the link too :)
[10:57] <Jucato> huh what
[10:57] <Jucato> sorry brb doing something
[10:57] <flaccid> np
[11:06] <boubbin> is it possible to get a list of the packages i have _now_ installed in my kubuntu and save it to a file, then reinstall the whole system from a cd and then the system is ready for use install all the files i had installed in the previous installation ?
[11:07] <flaccid> yes
[11:07] <flaccid> not that that is a good practice
[11:08] <flaccid> i won't cover all files but you can do for eg. dpkg -l > /tmp/package_list.txt
[11:08] <flaccid> i=it
[11:09] <boubbin> is it ok then to install all the packages there ? :)
[11:09] <flaccid> yes thats fine
[11:10] <flaccid> apt/dpkg wont let you install pkgs unless it meets deps etc.
[11:10] <boubbin> hmm would be nice to get a one liner with the package names
[11:10] <boubbin> sudo dpkg -l | cut -f 3 -d " "
[11:10] <boubbin> nice
[11:12] <flaccid> well if you know this cli stuff, i don't know why you ask
[11:12] <boubbin> :)
[11:13] <boubbin> sudo reboot
[11:13] <boubbin> oh :/
[11:14] <flaccid> heh
[11:21] <flaccid> http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2007/05/sorry-state-of-sound-in-linux.html
[11:42] <intelikey> until apt-get -y dist-upgrade ;do : ;done
[11:45] <student_> sal tanta
[11:45] <intelikey> hoesh don
[11:51] <flaccid> wb jon
[11:54] <enano> holas
[11:54] <enano> komo stamos
[11:54] <intelikey> !es
[11:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <intelikey> ya know.   i like vlc alright.   but it really tic's me off that they didn't write a man page for it.
[12:07] <intelikey> even  vlc --help > vlc-1 ;gzip vlc-1 would beat what they have
[12:10] <flaccid> hehe
[12:12] <intelikey> actually i just made that exact man page.  format is a little off but it sure beats what  man vlc   did churn out (which was the title and a see vlc --help message heh)
[12:13] <flaccid> oh
[12:15] <flaccid> now you can be the man guy for that project !
[12:59] <hcbox> hi all
[01:01] <spark_> hey guys
[01:03] <GrahamA> Hello, Windows crashed on a few days ago and since then I've been unable to load any OS from grub on my PC. Linux says "Partition table invalid or corrupt" and Windows says "Invalid or unsupported executable format", what can I do?
[01:07] <spark_> well GrahamA my first idea was to  try fixmbr with the windows boot cd but this only works if grub crashed...
[01:07] <spark_> it recovers your windows master boot record
[01:07] <spark_> but i think there is an option on a live cd of ubuntu to restore your partition table(but sorry dunno where)
[01:08] <GrahamA> spark_: I've managed to get some help, the partition table is boned.
[01:09] <GrahamA> spark_: fdisk to the rescue.
[01:09] <spark_> aw yipp. thx ;)
[01:26] <CharlieKane> I've just installed Beryl (not going to try CF till I upgrade my hardware) and my window decorations dissappear
[01:47] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I set firefox to be the default browser?
[01:48] <Jucato> for KDE apps: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web browser
[01:48] <Jucato> for the whole system (including non-KDE apps): sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:48] <Jucato> then choose Firefox
[01:52] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, I did the second one Jucato, but akregator still insists on using konqueror
[01:56] <Jucato> Lunar_Lamp: when does it open konqueror?
[01:56] <Lunar_Lamp> Jucato: I changed the akregator settings to say open in firefox rather than default kde browser, which works, but leaves me a little unsatisfied.
[01:57] <Jucato> perhaps you just needed to restart Akregator to update it. but if you mean the embedded browser that it uses, that will always be konqueror (or KHTML to be exact)
[02:02] <Lunar_Lamp> No, it was the external one Jucato, and had been restarted many a time.
[02:03] <Jucato> hm... did you do the first step as well? in System Settings?
[02:03] <Lunar_Lamp> Nope, I did the master one assuming that would do it for everything as I wasn't sure of the path/options required for firefox.
[02:04] <Lunar_Lamp> I assume it's something like /usr/bin/firefox &u
[02:04] <Lunar_Lamp> But not sure.
[02:04] <Jucato> probably not. because user settings override system-wide ones. so you'll probably have to set KDE to use Firefox too
[02:04] <CharlieKane> Has anyone here installed Beryl on Kubuntu ?
[02:04] <Jucato> the %u there means "a single URL/addresss"
[02:05] <Jucato> !beryl | CharlieKane
[02:05] <ubotu> CharlieKane: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <kkathman> CharlieKane:  had Beryl - now have compiz-fusion
[02:05] <CharlieKane> My system is old and I'd rather stick to whats in the repositories
[02:06] <CharlieKane> My window decorations dissappear under Beryl
[02:07] <seishinbyou> Question: CPU Scaling seems to not be enabled on my Thinkpad T30...how can I enable it (if possible)
[02:23] <me_> ?
[02:35] <blubb> when I install thunderbird for example then the german translations are not downloaded too automatically, can I set that somewhere?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:38] <emilsedgh> blubb: mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de :)
[02:39] <blubb> emilsedgh: read my question again please!
[02:39] <emilsedgh> blubb: I think you cannot set it to download locales automatically, at least i dont know how
[02:40] <blubb> emilsedgh: that bad :-p
[02:41] <emilsedgh> blubb: why you use thunderbird and not kmail!?
[02:42] <CharlieKane> mmm coffee
[02:44] <clso> hello?
[02:44] <CharlieKane> hello
[02:44] <clso> could someone help me installing a printer in the kubuntu...?
[02:45] <clso> i am out of my mind trying
[02:45] <blubb> emilsedgh: I will use kmail... :)
[02:45] <Jucato> !printer | clso
[02:45] <ubotu> clso: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:45] <emilsedgh> blubb: kmail is really feature rich and very well intergrated...
[02:45] <blubb> can networkmanager read a wpa_supplicant configuration file? or how can I use wpa_supplicant without the network manager
[02:45] <clso> is a printer that isnt in the list of the assistant
[02:47] <jermain> hi everyone
[02:47] <jermain> hi martins
[02:48] <keito> urgent help required! Amarok (&Xine) refuse to play mp3's.  I was advised to test whether this is a settings issue by creating anew user and trying with that.  I did and mp3's WORK for the new user.  how do I fix this for my usual login???
[02:48] <clso> Jucato, what can i do if the printer isnt in the support list... of ubuntu cups?
[02:49] <jermain> can anyone tell me how to add a line to my bashrc?
[02:49] <jermain> keito; i have the same problem
[02:49] <BluesKaj> keito, install libxine-extracodecs
[02:49] <keito> already got
[02:50] <keito> this is not a codec issue
[02:50] <keito> playbacl worked
[02:50] <keito> and works under a different user
[02:50] <Jucato> clso: um.. you can try if your printer's driver is listed in System Settings -> Printers -> Add Printer wizard
[02:50] <CharlieKane> keito: libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:50] <keito> jermain: no idea how to fix this then?! ;0)
[02:50] <Jucato> clso: the name of the driver for your printer might not exactly be the same as the name of your printer
[02:50] <jermain> keito; i stepped over to xmms
[02:50] <keito> CharlieKane: surely i don't need to install anything?
[02:50] <keito> jermain: same
[02:51] <keito> CharlieKane: it works for a different user on the same system
[02:51] <jermain> keito; :( its annoying, i think ill try to reinstall later on
[02:51] <CharlieKane> keito: I installed libxine1-ffmpeg, problem solved
[02:51] <keito> this is user specific
[02:51] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg is for video media
[02:51] <jermain> and try again
[02:51] <Jucato> keito: can you check if Amarok is using the Xine engine in Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Engines?
[02:51] <CharlieKane> works
[02:51] <keito> XINE IS USED
[02:51] <keito> XINE DOESN@T PLAY MP3S EITHER FOR *THIS* USER
[02:51] <Jucato> no need to shout
[02:51] <keito> lol
[02:52] <jermain> but can someone tell me how to add a line to .bashrc?
[02:52] <keito> it's been bugging me for ages and just now someone said to create a new user and try
[02:52] <BluesKaj> jermain with permissions , copy and paste the line
[02:52] <Jucato> jermain: just edit the file and add it at the bottom
[02:52] <keito> can't believe it works for another user
[02:52] <CharlieKane> keito: you might want to double check your settings in Amarok
[02:52] <jermain> it tells me i need root
[02:52] <keito> one night it worked for me then next it didn't, I changed nothing
[02:52] <jermain> but i dunno how to establish root outsie of the console
[02:53] <Jucato> jermain: you don't need to edit your own .bashrc file
[02:53] <clso> so. Jucato how can i know if there is a compatible printer for mine...
[02:53] <BluesKaj> root =permission=kdesu in kate
[02:53] <Jucato> jermain: which file exactly are you using?
[02:53] <Jucato> er.. editing I mean
[02:53] <jermain> i use kate
[02:53] <jermain> i want to set path at startup
[02:53] <jermain> for some scripts
[02:53] <Jucato> jermain: which file are you editing?
[02:53] <CharlieKane> keito: check your xine settings... tell me what you got
[02:53] <keito> 2secs
[02:54] <keito> phone
[02:54] <jermain> jucato; .bashrc
[02:54] <Jucato> jermain: ~/.bashrc ?
[02:54] <jermain> yes
[02:55] <jermain> a pop up comes when i want to save and it says
[02:55] <Jucato> jermain: in Konsole can you check: ls -l ~/.bashrc
[02:55] <jermain> The document could not be save, as it was not possible to write to blah blah
[02:55] <jermain> k
[02:55] <Jucato> see who owns the file
[02:56] <Jucato> er... what's the complete error message?
[02:56] <jermain> no
[02:56] <BluesKaj> he needs to open it with the kdesu kate command if he wants to save an edit
[02:56] <jermain> after that it says
[02:56] <keito> CharlieKane: how do I do that?
[02:56] <jermain> i have to check if i have write acces
[02:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: possibly... but the fact still remains that he should have permissions for his own bashrc right?
[02:57] <ardchoille> Jucato: The permissions on that file can change to root in some instances if he's been using "sudo (gui app)"
[02:57] <BluesKaj> Jucato, if i rememder correctly i needed to use the runbox with permissions to edit
[02:57] <CharlieKane> keito: In Amarok click on 'settings' > 'configure amarok' > 'engine' (and tell me what your settings are)
[02:57] <Jucato> bu then again, I never run sudo GUI app
[02:57] <Jucato> CharlieKane: you'll only get shouted at too
[02:57] <ardchoille> Jucato: Any $HOME file can be affected by that.
[02:58] <jermain> jucato: its rw - r - r - l jermain jermain 2227
[02:58] <keito> xine eng, autodetect, stereo 2.0
[02:58] <keito> CharlieKane: ^^
[02:58] <jermain> is there a way for me to add it from the console?
[02:58] <CharlieKane> keito: ok
[02:59] <CharlieKane> keito: well thats fine like that
[02:59] <keito> CharlieKane: any other ideas?
[03:00] <keito> CharlieKane: purge xine & amarok settings perhaps?
[03:01] <CharlieKane> keito: nah
[03:01] <jermain> jucator: is there some way for me to establish root while in a text editor?
[03:01] <jermain> (prefereably kate)
[03:01] <keito> CharlieKane: there's gotta be a way to get the same settings for this user as the new user has?
[03:01] <ardchoille> jermain: You can do: kdesu kate filename
[03:01] <CharlieKane> keito: try installing libxine1-ffmpeg (it supports a variety of audio formats as well as video and it a plugin for xine based players)
[03:02] <jermain> i will try that thanks
[03:03] <keito> CharlieKane: already got
[03:03] <CharlieKane> keito: hmm ok
[03:04] <jermain> ardchoille: i did "sudo kdesu kate /root/.bashrc"
[03:04] <ardchoille> jermain: No, just "kdesu kate filename", no sudo
[03:04] <jermain> but i got 2 bad device errors and the 3rd says it cant connect to X server
[03:05] <jermain> oh, okay
[03:05] <Jucato> um... why /root/.bashrc ?!
[03:05] <ardchoille> jermain: Why are you editing root's bashrc?
[03:05] <jermain> isnt that where im supposed to add the set path line?
[03:05] <ardchoille> no
[03:05] <jermain> o.O
[03:05] <Jucato> no... that's not *your* bashrc
[03:05] <jermain> ><
[03:05] <Jucato> I asked earlier if you were editing ~/.bashrc remember?
[03:05] <ardchoille> jermain: you need to edit ~/.bashrc
[03:05] <CharlieKane> keito: got plain ffmpeg installed from the medibuntu repository ?
[03:05] <jermain> argh
[03:05] <keito> CharlieKane: it *can't* be package related if it works for another user surely (am I being stupid here or what?).  this *has* to be a config related issue that is related to this specific user (hence purging the xine/amarok settings idea)
[03:06] <jermain> i see
[03:06] <Jucato> ardchoille: so it wasn't caused by wrong usage of sudo after all :P
[03:06] <CharlieKane> keito: ok
[03:06] <keito> CharlieKane: I'm confused ! lol
[03:06] <ardchoille> Jucato: I see that, was just a guess.
[03:06] <CharlieKane> keito: yeah I'm not sure whats going on there
[03:06] <keito> CharlieKane: not sure about ffmpeg 2secs
[03:07] <ardchoille> jermain: That's ok, we all had to start somewhere
[03:07] <jermain> ardchoille, jucato: it works
[03:07] <jermain> thanks guys :)
[03:07] <jermain> :)
[03:08] <Jucato> by the tail?
[03:08] <ardchoille> jermain: I've been using *buntu since Warty was released and have never had to edit a file in root's $HOME
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: maybe try starting Amarok from a terminal and see if any useful information comes up
[03:09] <jermain> im of the feisty generation =3
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: whatcha doo ?
[03:09] <keito> right you guys wanna know how?
[03:09] <CharlieKane> yes
[03:09] <jermain> keito, did you solve it?
[03:09] <keito> yes
[03:09] <keito> purge settings lol
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: cool... I'll remember that
[03:09] <jermain> lol
[03:09] <keito> delete ~/.xine
[03:09] <keito> then
[03:10] <keito> delete ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok
[03:10] <CharlieKane> ok... remove xine and amarok
[03:10] <CharlieKane> then reinstall ?
[03:10] <keito> delete ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[03:11] <keito> no need to reinstall the settings get replaced on starting amarok
[03:11] <ardchoille> CharlieKane: he's just deleting settings
[03:11] <CharlieKane> oh
[03:11] <CharlieKane> ok
[03:11] <jermain> sweet
[03:11] <CharlieKane> n00bed myself
[03:11] <djd92l> does anybody have an idea, why my brighness-control-keys on my laptop doesn't function anymore? (Since i've upgraded to version 2.6.22-12 (Ubuntu Feisty))
[03:11] <jermain> ill try it later today
[03:11] <keito> I'm ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:11] <CharlieKane> keito: brilliant
[03:11] <ScorpKing> i got a bigger hd for my laptop. how can i dd the old disk to the new one? if i nfs mount my server and try to dd onto it i get "permission denied" no matter what user i am. looks like dd to nfs don't work.
[03:11] <CharlieKane> :)
[03:12] <keito> 80)
[03:12] <keito> jermain: give it a go, it should fix it
[03:12] <CharlieKane> keito: well anyway... ffmpeg is good to keep anyhow ;)
[03:12] <unwise> help me please, i just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu7.04 and now i cannot find my windows partition in kde
[03:13] <CharlieKane> unwise: got ntfs-3g installed ?
[03:13] <djd92l> @unwise: did you typed in the partition in the /etc/fstab?
[03:13] <unwise> nope, all i did was install kubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <unwise> how do i do this fstab?
[03:14] <unwise> my disk works fine under gnome
[03:14] <CharlieKane> gtg
[03:14] <CharlieKane> bbl
[03:14] <djd92l> unwise: Filesystem?
[03:14] <CPrompt^> hey, this morning Adept said there was an update and when I "fetched" the updates it said that it was a Major upgrade.  I'm running Feisty now so...what is this?
[03:14] <unwise> NTFS for XP
[03:15] <djd92l> ok, then you've to install ntfs-3g like CharlieKane already said..
[03:15] <keito> unwise: do sudo fdisk -l
[03:15] <ardchoille> CPrompt^: It might have been the recent kernel upgrade and there was a recent kde upgrade
[03:15] <djd92l> then, you've to check up the fstab (See Ubuntuusers.de)
[03:16] <ScorpKing> see http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php for ntfs info
[03:16] <keito> surely ntfs-3g is for *writing* to ntfs... ubuntu should read NTFS out-of-the-box?!
[03:17] <ScorpKing> it does
[03:17] <keito> it just needs mounting?
[03:17] <Jucato> should, but by default only as root
[03:17] <ScorpKing> yes
[03:17] <djd92l> keito: yes, you're right... my fault *gg*
[03:17] <keito> you can mount without editing fstab?
[03:17] <Jucato> I mean if you just sudo mount blahblah
[03:17] <ScorpKing> depends how it's mounted
[03:17] <keito> fstab just automounts?!
[03:17] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, yes there was a fairly large upgrade this morning , of course depending on your installation
[03:17] <djd92l> yes: sudo mount -t ntfs <partition> <destinationPATH>
[03:18] <ScorpKing> add -o uid=1000,gid=1000 to that
[03:18] <ScorpKing> after ntfs
[03:18] <keito> djd92l: don't you need to sudo mkdir /media/pathname first?
[03:18] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : i did recently upgrade to the new kernel so that might be it
[03:18] <djd92l> you can mount it anywhere you like
[03:19] <keito> djd92l: yeah but doesn't it have to exist first or will it create the path in that command?
[03:19] <sputnikrock> Is it known that there might be problems with downloading kubuntu by bittorrent?
[03:19] <sputnikrock> (new beta)
[03:19] <djd92l> it must exist.
[03:19] <unwise> okay, so now u got me all confused ;)
[03:19] <keito> djd92l: sudo mkdir first then
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ntfs-config is a handy app..gives read write capabliity to windows partitions
[03:19] <unwise> i did install this ntfs-3g hofever
[03:20] <ScorpKing> unwise: see the link i posted. it's all on there
[03:20] <unwise> ok, thanks :)
[03:20] <keito> BluesKaj: its cool but my ntfs is classed as a dirty drive (bad windows) now I have to forcemount it lol
[03:20] <djd92l> *gg*
[03:20] <keito> GG ;0)
[03:21] <keito> well peeps I'm gonna roll on outta here and play some forza2.  peace love & the rest
[03:22] <ScorpKing> c ya
[03:22] <ScorpKing> anyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?
[03:23] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: you need http://www.sysresccd.org  it has partimag on it and it rocks
[03:23] <clso> i have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx
[03:24] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: partimage only copies the used portion of the disk
[03:24] <cicch> hep me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:24] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: that will be most of it. lol. thanks
[03:24] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: lol
[03:25] <unwise> wow, i didnt know write support for ntfs was so tricky
[03:26] <unwise> i always thought it was already there..
[03:26] <Jucato> hm?? what can be trickier than using ntfs-3g?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> what's the latest kernel for feisty , 2.6.20.16  ?
[03:28] <ardchoille> 2.6.20-16 is what I have and I'm updated
[03:29] <jermain> well, im going off. Thank for the help everyone!
[03:29] <unwise> ScorpKing: i read the link you sent me and mounted my ntfs but i cant seem to enter the folder
[03:30] <ScorpKing> unwise: do you have read permission on the folder and did you mount it with -o uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> right , thx ardchoille...I see newer one 2.6.22.9 on http://www.kernel.org/...I guess that's for adventurous kernel builders
[03:30] <unwise> SkorpKing: i did mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r
[03:31] <unwise> SkorpKing: i created the folder myself so i should be able to read it shouldnt i
[03:31] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: iirc, when it ends in an odd number, it's a devel release
[03:32] <ScorpKing> unwise: sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[03:32] <unwise> ScorpKing: i think i need to unmount first...
[03:32] <ScorpKing> unwise: yes and do a  ls -l /mnt/
[03:33] <ScorpKing> unwise: and make sure you can read on that folder
[03:33] <unwise> ScorpKing: yea! now i can access it all, thank you so much!
[03:33] <ScorpKing> np :D
[03:35] <ghozala> hay i cant find my hp printer driver from the list and i tried near models not working what can i do
[03:36] <genii> ghozala: what is the model?
[03:36] <ghozala> hp laser 1020
[03:37] <unwise> ScorpKing: just wondering.. is this sustainable or do i have to mount my ntfs again once i reboot
[03:37] <genii> ghozala: That one does Postscript, perhaps set it up for Generic Postscript printer
[03:38] <ScorpKing> unwise: if you add it to /etc/fstab it will mount at boot
[03:38] <ScorpKing> unwise: how to do that is on that link. here is another one...
[03:38] <ghozala> donnu but it is  a normal usb laserjet
[03:38] <ScorpKing> !ntfs
[03:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:44] <clso> i have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx
[03:46] <genii> ghozala: On further investigation, this printer does do Postscript but it is whats called "host-based", relying on the MS Windows GDI system for much of it's work. This may be difficult to find a linux driver for
[03:46] <dwidmann> Hmm, does anyone know why gruband linux might pick up my hard drives "out of order" (order being the order that they're in in bios)?
[03:46] <khaije> clso: with epson, your chances are good of finding something, have you tried googling?
[03:47] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: some bios'es have the option to change the hd order. it might be that
[03:48] <dwidmann> aggggggh, ever since correcting the time, I can't use sudo :(
[03:48] <khaije> clso: for example http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C40UX
[03:49] <khaije> clso: google is your friend
[03:49] <clso> gonna see
[03:49] <clso> google is my enemy haha
[03:49] <clso> i tried install it 30 times i think in 5 months
[03:50] <clso> recommended driver gutenprint hum...
[03:50] <clso> it is in relation with ubuntu?
[03:50] <khaije> clso: it says it is supported perfectly by gutenprint, nothing is easy, but if it is really difficult you're probably doing it wrong
[03:51] <khaije> clso: do you know how to install software from repo?
[03:51] <clso> no.............. :$
[03:52] <clso> i remember that appeared an error installing that driver
[03:52] <clso> gonna try another one...
[03:52] <genii> ghozala: A howto for the 1020 on feisty here:  http://benaiah41.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/installing-a-hp-laserjet-1020-on-ubuntu-feisty/
[03:53] <dwidmann> scorpkingk: it seems to tentatively obey that. This gives me a headache.
[03:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:53] <khaije> clso: in your start menu there should be an option for add/remove programs, just open that and search for gutenprint, then install, and possibly reboot
[03:54] <clso> oki thx
[03:54] <ardchoille> khaije: Why reboot?
[03:54] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: IIRC from past horrible experiences, that controls which ones MBR it reads, but in linux it will still have them out of order (hurray for UUI"
[03:55] <dwidmann> **UUIDs)
[03:55] <khaije> ardchoille: in case it loaded an incorrect driver when the correct one wasn't available
[03:55] <clso> no results...
[03:55] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: i was about to say maybe the partition table or something in menu.lst :D
[03:55] <khaije> clso: also make sure to get escputil - it's for managing epson printers
[03:56] <clso> escputil
[03:56] <khaije> ardchoille: not strickly necessary, of course
[03:56] <tsb> How stable is the new kubuntu beta release? I realize a few things might break, but I wouldn't want to end up with a non-working xorg etc..
[03:56] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: so long as I eventually get it straight in menu.lst, I don't really care if I actually resolve the problem
[03:57] <khaije> clso: ya i just saw that in a search of available programs in the repo
[03:57] <dwidmann> Anyhow, it can wait to later, I need to play video games.
[03:57] <ardchoille> tsb: Gutsy will be released on the 18th of next month
[03:57] <clso> installing escputil and gutenprint-locales
[03:57] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: the UUID seems to be the problem. do it the old way.
[03:57] <tsb> ardchoille: does that mean it will ship 3.5.8?
[03:57] <khaije> clso: read over the descriptions of the gutenprint packages, you'll probably need more than just locales
[03:58] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: nah, not in this case, in fact, the UUID is what saves my fstab from a world of trouble
[03:58] <AV1611> greeting at all!
[03:58] <ardchoille> tsb: 3.5.7 I think
[03:58] <AV1611> does anybody know the full size of the 7.10 sofware pool, how 'rich' it is?
[03:59] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: instead of using the UUID use /dev/hd*1 in menu.lst and fstab
[03:59] <tsb> ardchoille: okay well packages will be made avaliable soon enough nonetheless I guess.
[03:59] <Tm_T> AV1611: what you mean exactly?
[03:59] <dwidmann> Really, really big, 20k+ packages
[03:59] <AV1611> the former was as much as 14-15GB, what about the next one?
[03:59] <Tm_T> same pretty much
[03:59] <AV1611> what is the size of /ubuntu/pool/
[03:59] <AV1611> ?
[03:59] <clso> khaije, after that it could appear in the assistant install printer?
[03:59] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: ah, nevermind it, like I said, FEAR is waiting for me.
[03:59] <AV1611> just wonder...
[03:59] <khaije> clso: you might also want cupsys-driver-gutenprint and foomatic-db-gutenprint
[03:59] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: lol
[04:00] <clso> yeah im installing that too
[04:00] <ScorpKing> that will fix it tho
[04:00] <AV1611> I mean all the sections: universe, multiverse....
[04:00] <Tm_T> dwidmann: you should fear me ;)
[04:00] <ScorpKing> we know Tm_T :P how goes?
[04:00] <Tm_T> slowly goes
[04:01] <ScorpKing> haha
[04:01] <clso> ok thanks ill be back in a moment
[04:01] <Tm_T> upgrading to gutsy
[04:01] <khaije> clso: there is a lot that happens automatically, it seems likely this will be all you need, but if it doesn't work right away then hope isn't lost :-)
[04:01] <AV1611> what are the noted software addition among those 20K?
[04:01] <ScorpKing> i'm not sure if my laptop will handle Gusty
[04:01] <AV1611> i meant: additions
[04:01] <BluesKaj> AV1611, there are numerous repos with various apps , it's pretty difficult pin down a number
[04:01] <AV1611> the main one!
[04:01] <Tm_T> AV1611: KDE4 betas perhaps?
[04:01] <AV1611> is it alreday there?
[04:01] <AV1611> already
[04:02] <ScorpKing> yes, universe i think
[04:02] <BluesKaj> gutsy & some beta
[04:03] <dwidmann> scorpking: not really, because every time I plug in another drive the sd** is rearranged, never know what I'll get next, but the UUID is consistent.
[04:03] <nerv203> Hello! I'm back again, with a minor issue.
[04:03] <AV1611> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[04:03] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: true
[04:03] <AV1611> that is the pool I wonder of its size about...
[04:04] <AV1611> oops, gutsy
[04:04] <nerv203> I keep getting an error message whenever I use the sudo command for anything. It doesn't interrupt the Sudo command, and it doesn't seem to have an observable effect on anything else so I'm not too worried.
[04:04] <AV1611> I pasted a line of sources.list
[04:04] <nerv203> But it, basically, says that there are two unregistered devices. Does anyone have the link to that debugging website where I can paste it to?
[04:04] <crazy_bus> ubuntu 7.10 beta release notes mention compiz by default.  Is kubuntu 7.10 missing out on this?
[04:05] <nerv203> Nevermind, I found it :)
[04:07] <ScorpKing> nerv203: have a link for that?
[04:07] <nerv203> http://pastebin.com/m6324726a
[04:07] <ScorpKing> thanks
[04:07] <ScorpKing> o
[04:08] <nerv203> Oh, if you wanted the site I used it's just http://pastebin.com
[04:08] <nerv203> Can anyone look at that post and tell me what's wrong?
[04:08] <ScorpKing> no i thought you had a fix for it. i get that to
[04:08] <ScorpKing> too*
[04:09] <nerv203> I am assuming it's just the keyboard or mouse as they are generic Plug and Play things, I never installed drivers for them.
[04:09] <nerv203> They work fine, as I said, but I keep getting that error... I haven't added any ther hardware recently, or well, ever.
[04:09] <nerv203> I am getting some brand new shiny RAM soon :)
[04:10] <blubb> anyone knows how I could increase that timeout of wpa_supplicant: Authentication with 00:18:39:ab:30:96 timed out. ?
[04:10] <nerv203> Well, when I say brand new I mean second hand, and by shiny I mean modest, but it's better than 256 >.>
[04:13] <clso> khaije, printer installed succesfully
[04:13] <clso> Thanks very much
[04:15] <khaije> clso: cool!
[04:18] <clso> ieah
[04:18] <clso> now im going to see the howtos to build a print server
[04:19] <clso> i think this will be more interesting ^
[04:20] <khaije> cups! | clso
[04:20] <khaije> oops :)
[04:21] <clso> xD
[04:21] <khaije> !cups | clso
[04:21] <ubotu> clso: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:21] <khaije> clso: good place to start ^^
[04:22] <clso> ^^
[04:22] <ScorpKing> good luck tho :)
[04:29] <ScorpKing> here is the link to fix the "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" we all seem to get - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen
[04:30] <ScorpKing> i've seen lots of complains about that. :)
[04:33] <crazy_bus> how do I use @SIG@ on the kubuntu wiki.  it just stays like that if I put it at the end of my message
[04:33] <llutz> ScorpKing: they learned and commented it out in gutsy :)
[04:34] <ScorpKing> hmmm. it's bout time. :)
[04:37] <felipe__> hi
[04:37] <deviance> I've lost a CD I had, but I still have the case, would it be legal to download the cd again?
[04:37] <deviance> Just wondering :P
[04:37] <llutz> deviance: i would say Yes, musicindustry indeed says NEVER
[04:37] <RurouniJones> NEIN!
[04:37] <genii> deviance: Technically no
[04:37] <RurouniJones> YOU HAF VOVEITED ZE RIGHT!!?!?!?!!
[04:37] <deviance> Really?
[04:38] <RurouniJones> Not go be a good consumer and buy another one, hup hup!
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[04:38] <deviance> Hmm, well RIAA can screw themselves, Im brittish
[04:38] <RurouniJones> That is the spirit
[04:39] <RurouniJones> Although the BP..whatever it is called will be knocking on yer door ;)
[04:39] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:40] <deviance> RurouniJones: Whats BP? Its a pertrol company isnt it?
[04:40] <deviance> Whoops sorry Jucato
[04:40] <ScorpKing> hi genii!
[04:42] <deviance> I prefer tea
[04:42] <genii> deviance: Part of being British I suppose
[04:42] <deviance> Indded
[04:42] <deviance> Nideed
[04:42] <Jucato> lol
[04:43] <Jucato> Indeed
[04:43] <ScorpKing> genii: you stole my words. :P
[04:43] <ScorpKing> anyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?
[04:44] <ScorpKing> i can only have one disk in at a time and i don't have a cd-rw in my laptop.
[04:44] <llutz> ScorpKing: external disk?
[04:44] <genii> ScorpKing: take them both out, get 2 laptop to regular IDe cable adapters. Plug em in and do it that way with desktop
[04:44] <ScorpKing> i do have a nfs server tho
[04:45] <ScorpKing> genii: none available in the next few days.
[04:45] <ScorpKing> llutz: don't have one
[04:45] <ardchoille> Can you dd over the network?
[04:46] <genii> ardchoille: Yes, it's possible
[04:46] <ScorpKing> it says i don't have permissions to write, even as root
[04:46] <ScorpKing> with nfs-mount
[04:46] <ScorpKing> genii: how?
[04:48] <ScorpKing> uhm, brb
[04:49] <deviance> Oh an update to the release updater.
[04:49] <deviance> I think they are getting ready for Feisty with all these KDE, KDM, Kernal and so on updates
[04:50] <genii> ScorpKing: boot both to livecd, assign static compatible IPs. /etc/exports has dev name not mount point of destination for dd. mount ad dd over from second box
[04:53] <genii> ScorpKing: Also /etc/exports has similar to: maproot=<IP of second box>
[04:54] <Xeross> Hey
[04:55] <genii> ScorpKing: Make sure to umount so they sync
[04:56] <abdelhadi> arabic
[04:57] <ScorpKing> genii: thanks, that should work. :D
[04:58] <genii> scorpking: /etc/exports share is just /dev     not /dev/sdX or so. then when you mount you see on 2nd box all the devnames. so of=/mntpoint/sdX   in the dd on that one
[05:00] <ScorpKing> genii: i'm still trying to figure out how i'm gonna boot my server from a cd. doesn't have one and only 94MB RAM. maybe one of the old ubuntu disks will do.
[05:01] <Xeross> can i install kubuntu (7.04) on a HDD where windows is installed on ?
[05:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[05:01] <Xeross> how
[05:01] <hsystem-x> Xeross, yes: dual boot
[05:02] <genii> ScorpKing: Yes, tricky :) The other box have a cd?
[05:02] <Xeross> ye
[05:02] <ScorpKing> genii: one is my laptop and one is a p1 server
[05:03] <hsystem-x> Xeross, you need to have 3 partitions, windows partition, / (ext3) , and a swap. The last two are for linux. Then when installing
[05:03] <genii> Xeross: The installer helps you do this when you run it. If Windows has all of the hard drive right now you can resize that part and put Kubuntu on the freed up space, and a small partition for swap
[05:04] <Xeross> k
[05:04] <Xeross> but does the installer alter the partitions?
[05:04] <genii> Xeross: It will resize them but not alter what is on there
[05:04] <Xeross> k
[05:04] <hsystem-x> the installer will modify the windows partition if you need to resize it.
[05:04] <Xeross> i have 2 partitions in windows
[05:05] <hsystem-x> only alter the size.
[05:05] <Xeross> k
[05:05] <Xeross> downloading the dvd now
[05:05] <Xeross> and another question, will my sweex wireless usb stick work with it
[05:05] <hsystem-x> depends.
[05:06] <hsystem-x> if you want to be sure, just boot from livecd, with the usb stick plugged.
[05:06] <genii> Xeross: If you have NTFS filesystems on there, make sure to run from windows first, the command chksk on them to mark the disks clean. Otherwise the partitioner will not be able to resize them properly
[05:06] <hsystem-x> and see if it is detected.
[05:06] <genii> Xeross: The command is chkdsk rather :)
[05:06] <genii> (forgot a d)
[05:06] <Xeross> k
[05:07] <hsystem-x> anyway, there is always a second option : ndiswrapper
[05:07] <Xeross> i've read something about that
[05:07] <hsystem-x> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <Xeross> it's a Sweex Wireless LAN USB 2.0 Adapter 54 Mbps LW053
[05:08] <Xeross> u guys know when shipit will work again
[05:10] <Xeross> the dvd takes long to download
[05:10] <Xeross> 8 hours
[05:11] <ScorpKing> get the cd
[05:11] <Xeross> l
[05:11] <Xeross> k
[05:11] <Xeross> *
[05:15] <Xeross> im planning on turning it into a webserver
[05:15] <linuz1234> alguien q hable castellano?
[05:15] <Tm_T> !es | linuz1234
[05:15] <ubotu> linuz1234: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:15] <linuz1234> gracias!!!
[05:16] <Xeross> 20 mins till cd is done
[05:17] <arash> Someone hear noticed that the 'higher volume/mute/lower volume' doesn't work? It just says Kmix isn't running but it really does, this problem comes and goes completely randomly.
[05:18] <eean> arash: buttons on your keyboard or what?
[05:21] <kaminix|benkyou> Why is the Kubuntu update downloading in like 0.5 Kb/s and stalling all the time? Gay! :(
[05:21] <[GuS] > never happened that to me kaminix|benkyou
[05:22] <ubunturos> is 92 dpi default for X?
[05:22] <kaminix|benkyou> [GuS] : To me it got the first like 112 packages really fast, and now it's stuck with two others. I blame swedish servers, maybe I should turn on the international ones.
[05:22] <wers> wont turn off my computer tonight.. downloading gutsy beta! yey!
[05:22] <[GuS] > yeah.. you should test another mirror kaminix|benkyou
[05:23] <kaminix|benkyou> Too bad it'll have to realise it's being stupid by itself before I can do so :p
[05:26] <kaminix|benkyou> ScorpKing: Screenshot. ^^
[05:27] <tinin> Hi, is anybody running kubuntu gutsy?
[05:27] <Jucato> (ew....)
[05:27] <ScorpKing> there is a wiki link for that.
[05:27] <kaminix|benkyou> huh?
[05:27] <tinin> has dolphin a tree view?
[05:27] <Jucato> not in KDE 3
[05:27] <tinin> :(
[05:27] <tinin> sux
[05:27] <Jucato> the *real* Dolphin in KDE 4 has one
[05:28] <ScorpKing> and a distro. xp-desktop
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> I want KDE4 :(
[05:29] <tinin> kde4 may not be very usable
[05:29] <tinin> yet
[05:29] <Jucato> correct
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> I want it finished. :p
[05:29] <tinin> they said that for xmas
[05:29] <tinin> it will be a gift
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> Hope it won't be delayed much more. It will make a nice christmas present. ^^
[05:30] <kaminix|benkyou> Christmas as in December or December 24th (or 25th...).
[05:30] <kaminix|benkyou> ?
[05:30] <ScorpKing> kaminix|benkyou: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/KDE-XP is one of them. not sure where i can post a screenshot.
[05:31] <tinin> and how is gutsy beta? many stopping bugs in it?
[05:31] <Jucato> tinin: not so much
[05:31] <Jucato> some bugs here and there. but practically usable..
[05:31] <Jucato> but still wouldn't recommend unless you really want to
[05:32] <kaminix|benkyou> Can't I just replace my repos with the gutsy ones and run sudo aptitude upgrade instead of goofing around with stupid adept?
[05:32] <jeri> helo everyone!
[05:32] <tinin> well, if you say there are problems, I dont want to worry too much about them
[05:32] <Jucato> kaminix|benkyou: technically yes. but the version-upgrade manager does some stuff to ensure that you upgrade properly
[05:33] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, I see...
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I need some help with an internet-connection via a nokia mobile phone (gprs), connected by USB?
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I try to do it with KPPP, but I don't what modem to use
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> jeroenvrp: I think thats handled by Kppp
[05:33] <tinin> I installed my graphics with envy script, I guess I'll ave some problems upgrading
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I try USB-modems, but no success
[05:34] <ScorpKing> kaminix|benkyou: this is as close as you'll get to xp - http://www.linux-xp.com/gallery/
[05:34] <jeri> can someone help me? ive installed frostwire according to starter guide in kubuntu,the problem wont launch everytime i double click
[05:34] <jeroenvrp> do I miss something@!?
[05:34] <Jucato> jeri: did you install Sun Java?
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> jeroenvrp: never having done it myself,I'm not sure how it works
[05:34] <jeri> nope,ah hehe
[05:35] <jeri> how do i install sun java?
[05:35] <deviance> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:35] <ScorpKing> jeroenvrp: run sudo wvdailconf and look at /etc/wvdail.conf to see what the modem is.
[05:36] <deviance> jeri: sudo apt-get sun-java5-jr
[05:36] <jeri> my system is 6.06 Lts dapper drake
[05:36] <ubunturos> jeri: sun-java-jdk
[05:36] <ubunturos> jeri: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[05:37] <ScorpKing> i'm getting lost. cheers guys
[05:37] <jeroenvrp> ScorpKing: thanks
[05:37] <jeri> im having trouble with the multiverse thing
[05:37] <ihavenokeyboard> hi i need to set up ubuntu to boot without a user/pass due to the fact my keyboards broken and i use onbored,any ideas?
[05:37] <Jucato> ubunturos: -jre
[05:38] <ubunturos> Jucato: -jre?
[05:38] <Jucato> sun-java5-jre
[05:38] <Jucato> or sun-java5-bin (they both install each other)
[05:38] <jeri> how?
[05:38] <ubunturos> jeri: issue those commands
[05:38] <ihavenokeyboard> jeri: so aren't quantum physicists.
[05:39] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:39] <jeri> im having problems with multivserse since ive installed kubuntu
[05:40] <deviance> How can I rip dvds?
[05:40] <emilsedgh> deviance: i think k3b can do it
[05:41] <deviance> It diddnt seem to want to, i think it woul;d but I dont know which file it is I need
[05:41] <ubunturos> jeri, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:41] <emilsedgh> deviance: K3B->Further Actions...
[05:42] <jeri> how do i do that,im sorry really amateur here
[05:47] <jeri> i think no can help now
[05:49] <jeri> how do i disable gnome desktop so i could use Kde again
[05:50] <jeri> anyone?
[05:50] <genii> jeri: From your login screen just choose KDE for session instead of Gnome
[05:56] <dinoerata> anyone know of great webcam software for ubuntu
[05:56] <jeri> can help me,i cant open my adept because of this error msg : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:56] <dinoerata> i have kopete but i can only see myself , cannot see other party
[05:56] <dappermuis> jeri: so try running apt-setup and apt-get update
[05:57] <Jucato> !aptfix | jeri
[05:57] <ubotu> jeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:57] <jeri> it says commnd not found
[05:58] <dinoerata> hey deffcon , do you know of great ubuntu webcam software or tool
[05:58] <deviance> :O Gutsy Beta is out :D
[05:58] <Jucato> !webcam
[05:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:58] <dappermuis> deviance: isn't it only out on the 10th?
[05:59] <dappermuis> i know that its been announced though
[05:59] <deviance> The beta is out today :D
[05:59] <dappermuis> oh ok
[05:59] <Russell> hello all
[05:59] <Jucato> dappermuis: Gutsy Beta? no that's today
[05:59] <deviance> Digg says, so it must be true :D
[05:59] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org says so too
[05:59] <dinoerata> ok will check it out bbotu
[05:59] <dinoerata> ubotu
[05:59] <dappermuis> jucato: whats on the 10th then?
[05:59] <Russell> how do i update to 7.10 beta from kubuntu 7.4?
[06:00] <Jucato> dappermuis: Oct 10? the tagging of KDE 4 Beta 3
[06:00] <deviance> I'm guessign thats why the update manager had an adept update today :D
[06:00] <Jucato> Russell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[06:00] <dappermuis> jucato: lol - yes, that was it
[06:00] <Russell> Jucato, thank
[06:00] <Russell> *thanks
[06:00] <dappermuis> jucato: there's too much happening in the free software world to keep track of it all :)
[06:00] <jeri> can anyone help me i cant open my adept
[06:01] <Jucato> :)
[06:01] <Jucato> !aptfix | jeri
[06:01] <deviance> !adeptfix
[06:01] <Jucato> bot??? :)
[06:01] <jeri> i only get this error sign
[06:01] <ubotu> jeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:01] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:01] <deviance> Well did you?
[06:01] <jeri> i did that nothing happend
[06:03] <Russell> can't i update from shell by changing all instances of fiesty to gutsy on the apt sources file then issuing "apt-get dist-upgrade" commands?
[06:03] <Jucato> Russell: you can. but the update manager does a few other things to make sure that the proper metapackages and stuff are installed to make the upgrade smoother
[06:05] <Russell> Jucato, ok... one more question, when i'll want to update to 7.04 from the beta, how much will it download? around 200 mb, or again 700 mb?
[06:06] <Jucato> not really sure.. but theoretically, the same size as the total packages you have installed :)
[06:06] <genii> Russell: It's a lot
[06:06] <Jucato> that could be more or less, depends. I think the upgrade manager will let you preview first before upgrading?
[06:06] <jeri> can anyone help i cant open my adept i only get error msgs
[06:07] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:07] <dappermuis> how stable is gutsy beta btw?
[06:07] <Jucato> jeri: did you do the commands that the bot gave you (twice)?
[06:07] <genii> Just my last set of gutsy updates on already installed gutsy was almost a gig
[06:07] <Russell> alright, thanks
[06:07] <jeri> yup
[06:07] <Jucato> jeri: what command did you enter to be exact?
[06:07] <Jucato> (just double checking)
[06:07] <jeri> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:08] <jeri> i only copy and paste to terminal
[06:08] <dappermuis> erm
[06:08] <Jucato> jeri: try this again: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <kozo> Hi has someone experience whit (first ubuntu and then installing vista (will ther be any trouble whit the bootloader?)
[06:09] <dhq> how do i killall jobs on printer
[06:09] <jeri> then? it brought me back to root?
[06:09] <contrast83> Anyone in here use Tasty Menu?
[06:09] <Jucato> jeri: can you try running Adept again?
[06:10] <jeri> ok
[06:10] <contrast83> kozo: AFAIK, it's next to impossible to install Vista *after* anything else if you want to keep the old OS. It's *possible*, but you have to know what you're doing (or find a tutorial that will guide you through it).
[06:10] <jeri> stil the same error msg
[06:10] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:10] <Jucato> jeri: ok try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:10] <hgarcia> I installed xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:11] <jeri> it says :
[06:11] <jeri> E: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <jeri> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[06:11] <hgarcia> then I changed the video card to fglrx
[06:11] <kozo> is ther any tutorial for something like that?
[06:11] <raylu> Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[06:11] <raylu> applicable law.
[06:11] <raylu> You have new mail.
[06:12] <hgarcia> far as the drivers I set them to properitary
[06:12] <raylu> how do i change the first message and how do i read my mail (besides cat /etc/mail/raylu)?
[06:12] <contrast83> kozo: I stumbled upon one quite some time back, so I know at least one exists. Have no idea what its url was though.
[06:12] <hgarcia> my resultion changed from 1200 x 900 to 640 x 480 is there any way to change it back the resolution that is
[06:12] <jeri> ??
[06:12] <raylu> hgarcia, what did you do?
[06:12] <Jucato> jeri: that's the problem. you have wrnog text in your /etc/apt/source.list file
[06:13] <hgarcia> I installed the ati driver xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:13] <contrast83> kozo: I'm pretty sure you'll have to re-do the partitions before installing Vista, moving Ubuntu to a secondary partition (it's on the primary partition now, and given Windows' superiority complex, it *has* to be on the primary partition).
[06:13] <Jucato> jeri: undo what you did. then follow the guide for adding Universe and Multiverse
[06:13] <jeri> what do i do?
[06:13] <hgarcia> then in the system settings I changed it to fgrx for the driver
[06:13] <hgarcia> now my resolution droped
[06:13] <kozo> hmm.. i think i go the easy way and install first vista and then ubuntu
[06:13] <contrast83> kozo: I'm pretty sure GParted will let you do that. You should be able to find a link to its homepage on distrowatch.org
[06:14] <contrast83> kozo: Well, since you're reinstalling anyway, I recommend setting up seperate partitions for / and /home (and obviously another for swap) when you get to that step on the Kubuntu installation.
[06:15] <Kanniball>  is there any program to manage screencasts for kubuntu? like save the video and the decription to view offline
[06:15] <contrast83> kozo: That way, when you reinstall again, so long as you don't format the /home partition, all your personal settings and files will still be there.
[06:15] <jeri> i think i have to reinstall kubuntu,that might solve the problem,or revert back to the time it was freshly installed
[06:15] <Kanniball> I've checked democracy player, but it want all gnome libs :S
[06:15] <inside__> hi
[06:16] <kozo> i have an 80 GB HD here how to partion it?
[06:16] <JaiBee> hallo?
[06:16] <kozo> 30 vista 30 root 10 home 3 gb swap?
[06:17] <JaiBee> sind hier deutsche?
[06:17] <kozo> ja ich ^^
[06:17] <Jucato> !de | JaiBee
[06:17] <ubotu> JaiBee: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:18] <JaiBee> ok dankeschn
[06:18] <JaiBee> dann verlasse ich euch mal wieder
[06:18] <kozo> Aufwiedersehn
[06:18] <llutz> kozo: "30 root 10 home" ? what do you want to install to / ?
[06:18] <JaiBee> ja tschss
[06:18] <Knightlust> jeri: i hope you dont reinstall kubuntu.. that's easy to fix
[06:18] <kozo> ./ is root or not?
[06:19] <hgarcia> any advice on my resolution issue?
[06:19] <llutz> kozo: most of the users don't even need more than 10GB for /
[06:19] <sainzeo> anyone else having problems starting a chat conversation using the groupwise plugin in kopete??
[06:19] <kozo> yes you are right but i have 80 GB and dont know how to used it elsewhere
[06:20] <llutz> kozo: /home
[06:20] <kozo> 10 GB
[06:20] <llutz> kozo: 10 /, 2 Swap, rest /home
[06:21] <llutz> kozo: or spare 10-15 gb for parallel-installations
[06:21] <kozo> ok is 10 GB not a bit sparse
[06:22] <llutz> kozo: depends on what you're planning to do
[06:22] <llutz> my / has only 3.5 used
[06:22] <USMarine> my / has 8gb used
[06:24] <kozo> then 30 GB vista / 10 /swap 2 /home 35 GB
[06:24] <USMarine> 2gb for swap *sigh*
[06:25] <llutz> kozo: 30GB wasted :)
[06:25] <USMarine> indeed
[06:25] <USMarine> better have a virtual machine
[06:25] <USMarine> and trash it when you want
[06:26] <kozo> dont know what to do whit it i have here 80 + 500 + 200 + 320 GB so i dont have any space problems xD
[06:26] <llutz> kozo: why using all those disk if no need for them?
[06:27] <cloakable> llutz: He will eventually :P
[06:27] <llutz> waste of endergy
[06:27] <llutz> -d
[06:27] <eloquence> theres always a need
[06:27] <kozo> ther is need for them like to load and save funsubs
[06:27] <eloquence> for more space
[06:28] <eloquence> kozo do u watch bleach?
[06:28] <kozo> yes
[06:28] <frb-work> is there a nifty mixing program for linux, like to make remixes of songs and other dance club music
[06:28] <kozo> today new ep out  ^^
[06:29] <frb-work> I've only seen the first season of bleach
[06:30] <kozo_> Naruto is coming too ^ 1h special
[06:30] <ralph_> Hi all. Is there a way around the bcm not avail problem when booting a kubuntu live cd. Would love to try it out on my Dell Inspiron E1705.
[06:31] <kozo_> Do you watch it too @eloquence
[06:33] <eloquence> well
[06:33] <eloquence> i only saw th emovie
[06:33] <eloquence> the bleach movie
[06:34] <eloquence> and i want to start watching the episodes but theres so much to download
[06:34] <kozo_> haha
[06:34] <kozo_> yes ther is
[06:35] <kozo_> 142 ep s
[06:35] <eloquence> where do u download from?
[06:36] <kozo_> mininova
[06:37] <kozo_> i think you can find ther packs whit all eps
[06:37] <kozo_> only need is space
[06:37] <kozo_> and time
[06:44] <deviance> How do I get Amarok to check my local files for new files
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> make sure that the directory you're storing files in is part of the media collection, and make sure you have automatically scan for new files checked
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> root on irc, how brilliant...
[06:45] <deviance> Ah it worked, I had to reload all my music from my collection to my playlist, is there not a all collection option
[06:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> lecture's starting, i should really pay attention :\
[06:48] <deviance> genii: Is there anything like Ubuntus deskbar applet for KDE?
[06:49] <deviance> Or Jucato if he knows
[06:49] <Jucato> there will be, in Gutsy
[06:49] <deviance> Oooh :D
[06:49] <Jucato> Strigi Applet
[06:49] <genii> deviance: Probably but offhand i dunno
[06:50] <deviance> Is it in the Gutsy Alpha? Or the Beta?
[06:50] <Jucato> beta today
[06:50] <deviance> Did the Kubuntu beta come out today as well as ubuntus?
[06:50] <deviance> Ah cool
[06:50] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu
[06:50] <deviance> My feed reader diddnt pick up that news from Kubuntu
[06:53] <eloquence> what is a good system monitor to use?
[06:53] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i never had a good experience with strigi, at least on kde3 :(, it dosnt support any usefull format
[06:53] <deviance> Jucato: The one thing that I dont like is Kubuntus artwork.
[06:53] <eloquence> i cant use my superkaramba widgets since i am in enightenment right now
[06:54] <Jucato> emilsedgh, deviance: don't tell me. I didn't do those things :P
[06:54] <deviance> Like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kdm.png
[06:54] <deviance> Feisty was blue o.o
[06:54] <Jucato> feisty was more purple than blue
[06:54] <eloquence> blue > *
[06:55] <Jucato> kdm themes are sooo  changeable :P
[06:55] <emilsedgh> Jucato: why kubuntu doesnt use any other icon theme? crystal svg is everywhere, everyone is tired from it..
[06:55] <Jucato> emilsedgh: trying to keep the KDE trademark as much as possible I believe
[06:55] <Jucato> and by trademark, I don't mean the legal trademark
[06:56] <deviance> Jucato: What are you running at the moment? The Beta?
[06:56] <Jucato> yep
[06:56] <emilsedgh> Jucato: then users should install Debian, not kubuntu, kubuntu should bring the best kde configurations, also they changed win decoration and widget style, i think this should be changed too
[06:57] <Jucato> unfortunately, the people who get to decide think differently
[06:57] <Jucato> and specially wrt artwork, it's a very tricky thing
[06:57] <eloquence> what is a good system monitor to use i am on kubuntu but using enlightenment currently?
[06:57] <llutz> use the freedom, make it look like YOU want
[06:58] <newsense07> eloquence: gkrellm
[06:59] <deviance> Aparently my Gfx card is good enough to run Nvidia-gxl drivers, I have them installed, how can I turn them on again? My Card is a 7300gs
[06:59] <emilsedgh> llutz: sure, i do so, but when i compare ubuntu to kubuntu i see that gnome's default are really better
[07:00] <emilsedgh> s/gnome/ubuntu
[07:00] <deviance> Tee Time :D
[07:00] <Jucato> blimey!
[07:00] <deviance> Good bye y'all
[07:00] <Jucato> bed time
[07:00] <deviance> :P
[07:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: hey, update your blog, im waiting...
[07:01] <Jucato> lol
[07:01] <Jucato> I'm too busy thinking of something to blog to be able to blog :)
[07:02] <Jucato> actually I have a list already... but I have to choose carefully now that I'm on two planets..
[07:02] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ubunru and kde? lol, write about how crap is gnome, and wait for a flame war in the comments :D
[07:03] <Jucato> tsk tsk.. I'm not like that :P
[07:04] <frb-work> !virtualbox
[07:04] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:06] <frb-work> if I wanted to use Vbox PUE on gutsy, is it possible?
[07:07] <cash> hello there )
[07:08] <cash> please help me change file-system from read-only mode to exchange ?
[07:08] <cash> I mean cdrom
[07:08] <cash> sorry to execute
[07:09] <radius> !kdetv
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <radius> !tvtime
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <eloquence> !opentv
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opentv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <radius> hmm
[07:09] <cash> any body alive ?
[07:09] <Tm_T> all bodies are dead
[07:09] <kstanley> I would like to congratulate the Kubuntu developers; It is the best live distro I have used in a long time. Thank you!
[07:10] <Tm_T> kstanley: youre welcome
[07:10] <kstanley> thank you
[07:10] <cash> Help me please !!!
[07:11] <cash> Tm_T please give me a piece of advice
[07:11] <Tm_T> cash: whats the problem?
[07:12] <cash> Tm_T I need to change file-system mode from read-only to execute ,and cant make that with "chmod" it is cdrom =(
[07:12] <Tm_T> cash: well you cant
[07:13] <Tm_T> cash: if you need to execute something, do run it from Konsole, like "sh /media/cdrom/file-i-run
[07:13] <cash> Tm_T I need to run many files ...I try to install matlab
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> When I try to run screen I get the error: Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> What's going on there?!
[07:14] <llutz> cash: remount it with exec-option
[07:14] <cash> llutz please tell me , how ?
[07:14] <Tm_T> !mount
[07:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:14] <Tm_T> bah
[07:15] <llutz> cash: sudo mount -o remount,exec /media/cdrom
[07:15] <cash> ura
[07:15] <cash> I mean thanks ))
[07:15] <cash> a lott
[07:16] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: that should have been created when screen was installed, if not do "sudo mkdir /var/run/screen && sudo chgrp utmp /var/run/screen && sudo chmod 775 /var/run/screen"
[07:16] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: that's what I'd have thought - but I've been running screen, and then it suddenly won't work. I don't remember making any alterations that would have an impact :-/
[07:17] <Lunar_Lamp> (that worked to fix it - but still - I'm concerned as to what caused ti)
[07:17] <cash> llutz it is dont help =(( maybe exists other ways ? =( sorry for many questions
[07:19] <cash> oh !Im stupid man !It is works !thanks for your answers !!
[07:19] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: do you have /etc/init.d/screen ?
[07:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Yes
[07:21] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: is there a link called /etc/rcS.d/S70screen that points to it ?
[07:22] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: yup
[07:23] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: well that script should create that directory anyway, /var/run is a tempfs so it's deleted at poweroff, that script should run at boot and remake that directory
[07:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, ok, I'll check the script quickly to see if there's anything obvious about it.
[07:25] <Lunar_Lamp> All seems ok to me
[07:25] <stdin> then afaik, it _should_ be working, not sure why it's not
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: I'll see what happens on next reboot.
[07:31] <RytmenPinnen> am I allowed to ask about problems related to konversation in here? The thing is that I cant join channels with "" (nordic letters)
[07:32] <Lunar_Lamp> RytmenPinnen: try #konversation :-)
[07:33] <RytmenPinnen> thank you
[07:34] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:34] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, i don't think channels with non-ASCII letters can *exist* at all...
[07:34] <RytmenPinnen> they can on quakenet :P
[07:35] <LjL> well, here
[07:35] <LjL> JOIN #
[07:35] <LjL> :brown.freenode.net 479 ljl2 # :Illegal channel name
[07:35] <RytmenPinnen> well, is there anything I can do about it? or am I doomed to switch client ?  :o
[07:36] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, is that on freenode, or some network that you *know* allows such channel names?
[07:36] <LjL> or if you prefer, what's the server address you're connecting to?
[07:36] <RytmenPinnen> its on quakenet.org
[07:36] <frb-work> does ati on linux support crossfire?
[07:37] <RytmenPinnen> when I try to join I get this [20:26]  [Error]  #ndutgng: No such channel.
[07:38] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, uhm, i cannot connect to there because it requires registration... however, i suspect it's an encoding problem rather than a client problem
[07:38] <LjL> i.e. it works if you use Latin1, but not if you use UTF-8, which is the Ubuntu standard
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <RivaeAerya> Guys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff..
[07:40] <LjL> winbond: you could start by not spamming the channel
[07:41] <LjL> winbond: "it's not mounting" you mean automatically, or manually?
[07:41] <winbond> automatically, im not spaming, damn piece of crap konversation is not working right
[07:42] <LjL> well, if you try manually, does it work?
[07:42] <LjL> i.e. sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[07:43] <winbond> LjL: it says no medium found, but i have a blank cd in there, i want to burn a cd
[07:43] <ubuntu> Is this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test
[07:44] <RivaeAerya> Guys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff.. Oh and, does anyone know a good firewall for KDE?
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> firewall for kde?
[07:45] <RivaeAerya> yep
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's a firewall for linux installed by default on every distro (or nearly every)
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> !iptables
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> ah, guarddog.. thanks! :)
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> guarddog is apparently a good frontend for iptables :D
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> i couldn't remember the kde one
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> Guarddog is the KDE one
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> remembered firestarter for some reason...  probably because of the book
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> but i was using firestarter until now
[07:47] <winbond> who is a dmin here?
[07:47] <CongealedMirth> Hey all
[07:47] <winbond> admin
[07:47] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:47] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:47] <CongealedMirth> Quick question on Kubuntu:  Which tool is the standard one for changing the network settings?  Is it KNetworkManager?  And in that case, how do I make effects permanent?
[07:48] <winbond> who is a admin here?
[07:48] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:48] <winbond> for the channel
[07:48] <stdin> winbond: why?
[07:48] <dettoaltrimenti> where can I change the settings for mouse sensitivity?
[07:48] <winbond> room , whatever, couse i need to talk to an admin
[07:48] <stdin> CongealedMirth: look in System Settings > network ?
[07:48] <stdin> winbond: join #ubuntu-ops
[07:49] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse ?
[07:49] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I minimise Thunderbird to the system tray?
[07:49] <winbond> stdin: thanks
[07:49] <dettoaltrimenti> Jucato- I don't have that under my System Settings: I have personal, look and feel, computer administration, network and connectivity
[07:50] <CongealedMirth> stdin:  ok, and how do i make them permanent?  I have a static IP that I assign...yet when I reboot it all goes away
[07:50] <LjL> winbond you can't mount an empty cd... and it doesn't need to be mounted to burn things on it, either
[07:50] <dettoaltrimenti> hah I found it sorry
[07:50] <Jucato> :)
[07:50] <ubuntu> I'm installing a kubuntu desktop. now i need to know: Is this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Hello
[07:50] <DaSkreech> What the heck?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arrrgh
[07:50] <CongealedMirth> hola Jucato
[07:50] <Jucato> hello
[07:51] <stdin> CongealedMirth: it should be permanent if you set it there
[07:51] <DaSkreech> anyone ever hung out in #debian ?
[07:52] <Roey> stdin:  nope it isn't
[07:52] <ubuntu> normale that command does a destructive test (which I want). but the man for mkfs.ext3 doesn't say destructive for the double -c option. so hs that behavior changed from what other distributions do?
[07:52] <frb-work> DaSkreech: long ago in a land far far away
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I have no voice in the chan I don't know
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I can't ask a question and they don't want me messaging anyone
[07:53] <Arkard> Hi people
[07:53] <Arkard> i need some help with a modem
[07:54] <Arkard> i want to connect me in a Dial Up Connection
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !ppp
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[07:54] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:54] <Arkard> but i cant configure the modem
[07:54] <Jucato> !dialup
[07:54] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:54] <Jucato> (dumb person asking the bot :P)
[07:54] <Arkard> let me see
[07:54] <Jucato> that was for DaSkreech btw, :D
[07:55] <DaSkreech> there is !modem as well
[07:55] <DaSkreech> But it should knoooooow what I'm asking for
[07:55] <JohnFlux> can I temporarily prevent kde/hal/whatever from mounting my usb disk?
[07:55] <JohnFlux> when I plug it in
[07:55] <JohnFlux> I need to fsck it
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Hold shift >_<
[07:56] <Arkard> btw how can i create a Block Device?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Arkard: try mknod
[07:57] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: really? or is that just windows? :
[07:57] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: that's windows
[07:57] <Arkard> i have a lot of LAG
[07:57] <DaSkreech> would be nice though :)
[07:59] <RivaeAerya> Guys, i'm looking for a monopoly for KDE. I've tried atlantik, but no one _EVER_ comes online there.
[07:59] <RivaeAerya> do you guys know any?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: Are you serious?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I normally find like 5 people on
[08:00] <DaSkreech> like one that wants to play with me but that's beside the point
[08:00] <Jucato> who'd want to play w/ you? O.o
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Question. What's the error Cannot send to channel indicate?
[08:00] <timucin_kizilay> hi !, I've downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 beta iso and when I boot my computer with it, it ask username and password. so, what is that username and password?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Jucato: My dogs.. after I roll in steak .. and gravy
[08:00] <Jucato> DaSkreech: moderated channel?
[08:01] <stdin> timucin_kizilay: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy help
[08:01] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yes, i'm serious
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I would think so but apparently it's only moderated for me
[08:01] <llp78> is it possible to remove a word from every filename in the current directory ? for example the file are "test1 word" test2 word etc.. i want to remove the word in all the files - over 500 file so dont want to do it manually
[08:01] <timucin_kizilay> thanks stdin. :)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: How long have you been trying?
[08:01] <Jucato> DaSkreech: this is where? #debian on freenode?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> llp78: #bash
[08:01] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: well i've been on there several times and there's not many people online.
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ja
[08:02] <ompaul> DaSkreech, it is not an error, it means exactly what it says on the tin, the cause is a channel operator has either (A) made a channel mode +m or (B) you are muted, either cos you are banned and you have not been removed, or you are actually able to join and part but not talk
[08:02] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: I'll agree it's not a Halo3 mosh fest but there is normally someone there. If not I just leave it open it flashes the bar when anything of significance happens so I can play and do work at the same time
[08:02] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: hmm.
[08:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: +c +f +P  I think +c is no colors. not sure about the other 2
[08:03] <Jucato> anyway.. /me bed
[08:03] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Why would I be able to join and part and not talk when that seems does not seem to be the policy and I have just got this computer on the net so I think I would have to be prebanned
[08:03] <Arkard> mknod always say: Invalid mode
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Night sleep well
[08:04] <Arkard> can anybody help me?
[08:04] <ompaul> DaSkreech, IP related who knows
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Arkard: read the man page it's a tricky little command
[08:04] <ompaul> and DaSkreech offtopic for here
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Right thanks
[08:05] <DaSkreech> ompaul: very sure but I'm oftopic everywhere but that chan and I'm not to message any one so I can't talk normally or message ops without breaking policy
[08:06] <Arkard> i dont know how to configure mi modem?
[08:06] <Arkard> wait for me a few minutes
[08:07] <newsense07> Arkard: well be waiting
[08:12] <Arkard> im back, sorry
[08:16] <Arkard> Hi?
[08:16] <emilsedgh> !hi Arkard
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi arkard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <Arkard> :D
[08:17] <Arkard> funny
[08:17] <LjL> !hi
[08:17] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:17] <emilsedgh> ah
[08:17] <emilsedgh> i wanted to say | Arkard :D
[08:18] <Arkard> hahahaha
[08:18] <Arkard> so as i was saying
[08:18] <Arkard> i cant configure my modem
[08:18] <Arkard> can you help me?
[08:19] <emilsedgh> Arkard: whats your modems chipset?
[08:20] <kreib> have a problem with internet connection on  my pc
[08:21] <Arkard> let me see emilsedgh
[08:22] <Arkard> emilsedgh: a little stamp say: CNR V1.2
[08:22] <kreib> it only connects sometimes
[08:22] <emilsedgh> Arkard: i dunno CNR, usually they are conexant or intel or slmodemd...i think i could you with conexant and/or slmodemd
[08:23] <Arkard> let me see better
[08:23] <Arkard> yeap, here another stamp say CNR 2002/34
[08:24] <kreib> someone can help with mye internet connection please?
[08:24] <Arkard> what is your probem kreib?
[08:24] <emilsedgh> Arkard: could you please copy the output of lspci into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[08:24] <kreib> it only commects sometimes
[08:25] <emilsedgh> kreib: you should say more details...
[08:25] <Arkard> yeah
[08:25] <Arkard> Dial up or DSL?
[08:25] <kreib> and then it works ok, bu other times it fails
[08:25] <kreib> dsl
[08:25] <Arkard> check the cable
[08:26] <kreib> its wireless
[08:26] <Arkard> Mmmm
[08:26] <Arkard> Check the coniguration
[08:26] <Arkard> in your PC
[08:27] <Cugel> Dudes.
[08:27] <Arkard> Sup man
[08:27] <kreib> yeah, I have a wmp54g linksys with rt2561 driver
[08:27] <Cugel> Anyone installed that Gutsy beta yet?
[08:28] <stdin> Cugel: #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask
[08:28] <Cugel> Okay (though I was refering to Kubuntu).
[08:28] <Arkard> the problem is sometimes it connects and sometimes not? or you are working and suddenly DC?
[08:28] <kreib> yes sometimes it does
[08:28] <stdin> Cugel: that channel is for both ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:28] <Arkard> wich one kreib?
[08:28] <newsense07> kreib: latest firmware on router ?
[08:29] <kreib> no
[08:29] <kreib> its a wrt54gl router
[08:29] <newsense07> kreib:id update the firmware to elimanate that possibility
[08:29] <Arkard> yeah, could be
[08:29] <kreib> ok, maybe try that
[08:29] <kreib> thx
[08:30] <Arkard> NP
[08:30] <Arkard> if i can i help :D
[08:31] <kreib> thing is, its a htpc, with no keyboard, if I could just have a script that does /etc/init.d/networking restart , a little while after boot it would be ok I think
[08:32] <kreib> or until connection is established
[08:32] <newsense07> kreib: shouldnt have to do that
[08:32] <kreib> I know, but it works always on my laptop, so I doubt its the router
[08:32] <newsense07> kreib: any other computers connecting wireless on your lan ?
[08:33] <kreib> the htpc and the laptop
[08:33] <newsense07> kreib: ok nm than
[08:33] <Arkard> Damn Modem
[08:33] <hero> what directories does konqueror put cache?
[08:34] <Arkard> Will be easier if i have a DSL T_T
[08:34] <pillowpants__> does anyone know where i can get the wiley linux bible ebook?
[08:34] <pillowpants__> i saw a link from somewhere not too long ago
[08:34] <DaSkreech> !away | savetheworld
[08:34] <ubotu> savetheworld: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[08:35] <Arkard> Have anyone hear about SATAN?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> hero: /var/cahce ?
[08:35] <DaSkreech>  /var/cache
[08:35] <hero> thx
[08:36] <pillowpants__> !linux bible
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux bible - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: KDE?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> !icthux
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icthux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Arkard> !SATAN
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about satan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Arkard> !automatix
[08:37] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Arkard: Not quite the same thing
[08:37] <kaminix> How can I fix scim-skim in Gutsy? Do I need to compile it myself?
[08:38] <pillowpants__> DaSkreech: huh?
[08:38] <Arkard> ...
[08:38] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: You want a bible for KDE?
[08:39] <weyer> hi, i'm helping someone to install kubuntu, and i'm wondering if he has installed 32 or 64 bit
[08:39] <weyer> how can i check that?
[08:40] <USMarine> errr
[08:40] <stdin> weyer: see what "dpkg --print-architecture" prints
[08:40] <USMarine> type arch
[08:40] <USMarine> in console
[08:40] <stdin> USMarine: bash: arch: command not found
[08:41] <weyer> nice, thnx
[08:41] <pillowpants__> DaSkreech: no, i was just wondering if someone had a link for the wiley linux bible ebook
[08:41] <pillowpants__> i got it from here not too long ago
[08:41] <pillowpants__> i need to check something, but im not on my home comp
[08:42] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: Ah. No Warez here
[08:42] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: You may try the wiley site They probably have it there somewhere
[08:42] <USMarine> stdin sorry, but i could swear there was such command
[08:43] <stdin> USMarine: there is on some other distros, like RPM based ones
[08:43] <Arkard> have anyone here used KSniffer?
[08:43] <Arkard> !Ksniffer
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksniffer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <hero> what directories does konqueror store its cache in? it's not /var/cache
[08:43] <ScorpKing> hi stdin!
[08:43] <dany> hi all..!
[08:43] <stdin> hey ScorpKing :)
[08:43] <USMarine> what's up dany
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !info ksniffer
[08:43] <Arkard> Hi
[08:44] <ubotu> ksniffer: network sniffing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1180 kB
[08:44] <Arkard> DaSkreech, what is does?
[08:44] <stdin> hero: look at /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER
[08:44] <hero> stdin: ok
[08:44] <ScorpKing> stdin: i see a few people complained about the service menu not being installed with your script. think i found the problem. :)
[08:44] <V-S> you use msn?
[08:45] <xenol> hello does anyone have experience with installing ut2004 on kubuntu?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Arkard: It sniffs the network
[08:45] <stdin> !games | xenol
[08:45] <ubotu> xenol: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:45] <stdin> ScorpKing: do tell :)
[08:45] <USMarine> V-S damn right i do
[08:45] <DaSkreech> xenol: what's the problem?
[08:45] <ScorpKing> stdin: gimme a sec.
[08:45] <kreib> gconf-editor, is that for ubuntu only? what about kubuntu?
[08:46] <xenol> DaSkreech: oh :< i already looked at all sites that have smth with ut2004, prob is i install it patch it then start game and it wont open
[08:46] <USMarine> xenol do they have execute permissions?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> no error messages?
[08:46] <Arkard> well in a LAN Netwerk i can see all the other PC's but i cant enter in $C and i know the Admin Password, help here
[08:47] <Sanne> kreib: gconf-editor is for Gnome. For Kde you can use System Settings or kcontrol (the KDE default Control Center)
[08:47] <kaminix> Is Gutsy using QT4? It is WAY faster than before I upgraded.
[08:47] <pillowpants__> has anyone here tried freeNAS?
[08:47] <kreib> thx
[08:47] <Sanne> :)
[08:47] <t4thfavor> @Arkard tun off simple file sharing on the windows boxes
[08:47] <stdin> kaminix: kde 3.* still uses Qt3  there are some Qt4 apps tho
[08:48] <Arkard> BTW t4thfavor all the other PC's use Windows
[08:48] <kaminix> stdin: Any idea why it's not using any swap now? Was using like 400MB before. Is it due to me rebooting?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> kaminix: somethings are but by and large no
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !info freenas
[08:48] <ubotu> Package freenas does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:48] <stdin> kaminix: yeah, reboot will clear swap
[08:48] <t4thfavor> Arkard they need to have somple file sharing disabled
[08:48] <xenol> USMarine: dunno i installed it to my home folder and it wrote in konsole smth like "Cant run UT2004 (ut2004-bin). Is UT2004_DATA_PATH set?"
[08:48] <DaSkreech> and /tmp
[08:49] <ScorpKing> stdin: mountserv.desktop is being copied to the wrong place. export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/applnk/Utilities should be export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ to copy it correctly.
[08:49] <Arkard> where i do that t4thfavor?
[08:50] <t4thfavor> Go here http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/winxpnetworking/ht/winxpsfs.htm
[08:52] <ScorpKing> pillowpants__: can you /pm?
[08:53] <stdin> ScorpKing: mountserv.desktop isn't copied to $SYSDIR  it's to ${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[08:53] <tom`88> hola
[08:53] <tom`88> hola
[08:54] <ScorpKing> stdin: lol. i see. i found it under .kde/share/applnk/Utilities after install tho. :)
[08:54] <stdin> hmm, I'll have a look at it
[08:55] <stdin> ScorpKing: was it "mountfile.desktop" or "mountserv.desktop" ?
[08:56] <ScorpKing> stdin: let me make sure.
[08:57] <ScorpKing> stdin: mountfile.desktop - i'm lost. :D
[08:57] <stdin> ScorpKing: mountfile.desktop makes the entry in the KMenu
[08:57] <USMarine> xenol try running it from the game dir
[08:58] <stdin> ScorpKing: tho, I'm moving that to ${prefix}/share/applications/kde now
[08:58] <ScorpKing> stdin: well, i think the problem is it doesn't copy right. i've never done any scripting tho. :)
[08:58] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get a blackberry to sync with kontact?
[08:59] <uga> lol "https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems"
[08:59] <stdin> ScorpKing: do you see mountserv.desktop in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ ?
[08:59] <uga> no issues at this time? =)
[08:59] <uga> somebody forgot to update the list since the first release?
[09:00] <ScorpKing> stdin: i had to copy it there
[09:00] <xenol> USMarine: well i read it should be neough to write ut2004 in terminal and game should run but nothing happens
[09:00] <stdin> ScorpKing: k
[09:02] <kaminix> After I upgraded to Gutsy my Yakuake console uses antialiasing, how do I turn it off?
[09:04] <thomas_> i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?
[09:05] <stdin> ScorpKing: strange, when I install it it works
[09:07] <ScorpKing> stdin: yeah, but for some it doesn't work. no idea why tho. i'll let you know if i find out why.
[09:08] <stdin> ScorpKing: if you can edit installGUI.sh and put "set -x" under "#!/bin/sh", then run it from konsole and pastebin the result that would help
[09:08] <JParishy> So how's the new beta?
[09:08] <ScorpKing> stdin: even if it's already installed?
[09:10] <frb-work> gutsy seems to be serving me well
[09:10] <stdin> ScorpKing: should still work, but you can remove it and try.  "rm ~/bin/mountfile ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop ~/.kde/share/applnk/Utilities/mountfile.desktop "
[09:10] <JParishy> I'm just about to download it and put it on my macbook
[09:11] <ScorpKing> stdin: will do.
[09:12] <thomas_> i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?
[09:14] <ScorpKing> stdin: #!/bin/sh and the next line #set -x right?
[09:14] <stdin> ScorpKing: without the "#"  just "set -x"
[09:14] <ScorpKing> k
[09:16] <coreymon77> thomas_: press properties next to the printer name in the print window
[09:16] <coreymon77> thomas_: then go to the driver settings tab
[09:17] <coreymon77> thomas_: then click on printout mode directly under the word General
[09:17] <Fishy> How unstable is the latest kubuntu beta? Any major problems?
[09:17] <coreymon77> thomas_: then choose one of the greyscale options
[09:17] <coreymon77> Fishy: #ubuntu+1 would be better for that
[09:18] <thomas_> coreymon77: but they all say + color cart
[09:18] <coreymon77> thomas_: wrong printout mode
[09:18] <coreymon77> thomas_: the other one
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: right above media source
[09:19] <thomas_> coreymon77: draft grayscale?
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: do you want draft quality?
[09:19] <thomas_> coreymon77: lol i don'nt know if thats really bad or not
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: draft is bad
[09:19] <ScorpKing> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38839/ - it did not copy.
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: draft is fast print
[09:20] <thomas_> coreymon77: alright I'll check it out thank you man
[09:20] <coreymon77> thomas_: click on normal gratscale
[09:20] <stdin> ScorpKing: so /home/scorpking/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ is empty?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> yes
[09:21] <DexterF> hi
[09:21] <ScorpKing> stdin: that dir is wrong.
[09:21] <DexterF> feisty: beryl once worked, weeks ago, now not anymore. anyone got a clue? there some known fsckup?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> stdin: it must be /home/scorpking/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[09:21] <stdin> ScorpKing: ahh, yes :p
[09:22] <ScorpKing> i guess the problem is solved. :D
[09:23] <The_Machine> i'm getting an error writing a DVD in k3b and i don't know how to troubleshoot it.  I can burn CDs (data/audio) just fine.
[09:24] <The_Machine> here is the error:
[09:24] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=4339
[09:25] <Chousuke> :/
[09:25] <Chousuke> an I/O error with cryptic error codes says nothing to me
[09:26] <kreib> is there someway to programatically test if there is internet connection ?
[09:27] <thomas_> how to mkdir with one line such as instead of: mkdir a | mkdir b | mkdir c
[09:27] <thomas_> but mkdir a,b,c?
[09:27] <The_Machine> Chousuke, says nothing?  what do you expect it to say?
[09:27] <Chousuke> something informative
[09:27] <The_Machine> ....
[09:28] <Chousuke> that tells what the error is :P
[09:28] <The_Machine> you don't use linux much, do you?
[09:28] <The_Machine> :P
[09:28] <Chousuke> Well, I used to
[09:28] <Chousuke> for about 3 years
[09:28] <sainzeo> i'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?
[09:28] <Chousuke> then I moved to OS X
[09:29] <xenol> Chousuke: can u say OS X is better then kubuntu>
[09:29] <xenol> ?
[09:29] <Chousuke> xenol: IMHO it is.
[09:30] <rrbiz> all i got was 4 system files in dist-upgrade today, i thought beta would have a bigger upgrade load
[09:32] <ShaneN> Hello all
[09:34] <sainzeo> i'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?
[09:34] <rrbiz> hi ShaneN
[09:35] <pierreth> hello, firefox keeps opening the links from Konqueror. How can I stop this?
[09:36] <thomas_> why doesn't this work?: mkdir admin newnham | mkdir newnham/library
[09:36] <elo_> brb reboot
[09:36] <Lunar_Lamp_> Er, thomas_ I don't think the "|" char does what you think it does.
[09:37] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: doesn't it allow you to do another command
[09:37] <thomas_> like tree | more
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> You want to do "and" there not "take the output of the first command and give it as input into the second command".
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> The "and" you want to use is "&&" which is "and if the previous command went without error, do this next one".
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> However, you can do it all in one command.
[09:37] <stdin> ScorpKing: fixed in version 1.3.2.1
[09:38] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: show me :)?
[09:38] <ScorpKing> stdin: sweet!
[09:38] <Lunar_Lamp_> mkdir -p /path/to/dirs/which/will/make/parents/as/requird
[09:40] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: but i'm making 2 directories and only the second one is making parent directories
[09:41] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: huh you don't need -p to make a directory, like: mkdir ~/home/user/exampledir
[09:41] <Lunar_Lamp_> Sorry, thomas_ - you are in, for example, /home/thomas_ and want to create /home/thomas_/testing/bash/commands
[09:42] <Lunar_Lamp_> No, the -p isn't needed to create a single - but you wanted to create a directory with a subdirectory, so instead of this;  "mkdir /test && mkdir /test/subdir" you can do "mkdir -p /test/subdir"
[09:42] <boguh_> how can i activate these full  konqueror profiles?
[09:43] <boguh_> just read that these standard profiles in kubuntu are more "user friendly"
[09:43] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: ok so I can also do mkdir dir1 dir2 dir3/parent1/parent2
[09:44] <Sanne> boguh_: this should help: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[09:44] <RivaeAerya> How do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?
[09:44] <boguh_> Sanne just did that, cant see any difference
[09:45] <Lunar_Lamp_> thomas_: yes, you can.  This works: "mkdir -p test1 test2 test3/test3a/test3b"
[09:45] <Sanne> boguh_: you should now have settings->Load/Save/Configure view profiles
[09:46] <ubuntu_> tem alguem ai ::
[09:47] <Sanne> boguh_: there's also this (also check out the link to jucato's blog in there): http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=307576
[09:47] <RivaeAerya> How do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?
[09:49] <fevel> hello
[09:50] <fevel> I had ubuntu installed and now I installed kubuntu-desktop to check it out
[09:50] <ozehka> Hello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory....
[09:50] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: is there a faster way instead of having to type richmondhill over and over?: mkdir -p -v richmondhill/annex richmondhill/building1 richmondhill/parking
[09:50] <fevel> although my locale settings changed to us
[09:51] <fevel> can someone help me change or install my locale?
[09:51] <davubuntu> Hey all... I was wondering if anyone could help me with my touchpad dimensions. I have ksynaptic installed and have turned on vertical and horizontal scrolling but the scrollers take up way too much of the pad (and they're a little buggy). Is there a way to configure the dimensions of the touchpad area and the scroller area?
[09:52] <prashantpawar> I hate the fags at ATI, they have given such a bad linux support to their graphics chips, I can't run beryl or compiz properly
[09:52] <prashantpawar> dammit
[09:52] <Lunar_Lamp_> You could do "rh=richmondhill" and then on the next line "mkdir -p -v $rh/annex $rh/building" etc.  that makes it two lines as the "rh=richmondhill" has to be on a line of it's own.  It will last until you exit the terminal.  Alternatively, you could "cd richmondhill" as a command and then you would be creating dirs in that dir
[09:57] <lopin> !install
[09:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:58] <lopin> !automate
[09:58] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:58] <feierfox> my kubuntu gutsy does not mount my second SATA HD
[09:58] <feierfox> can someone help me?
[09:58] <feierfox> i had the same problem with the feisty upgrade
[09:59] <uga> feierfox: does manual mounting work?
[10:00] <uga> feierfox: ie, the problem is with automounting, or with mounting in general
[10:00] <ozehka> Hello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory. any help?
[10:00] <feierfox> auto
[10:00] <feierfox> and i dont know how to mount manuel :(
[10:00] <uga> feierfox: then edit /etc/fstab as root (sudo)
[10:01] <uga> do you see the line that describes how to mount your second disk?
[10:01] <uga> it should be /dev/sdb1, or so
[10:01] <ScorpKing> ozehka: pastebin the output of dmesg
[10:01] <ozehka> lol nothing big :P
[10:01] <ozehka> e.g. ...
[10:01] <ozehka> $ eclipse
[10:01] <ozehka> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:01] <uga> feierfox: mounting manually is easy.  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mydisk" for example
[10:02] <quixogre> afternoon all
[10:02] <uga> ozehka: core dumped? sounds like you run the program as root?
[10:02] <feierfox>  /media/data ext3 user,rw,auto
[10:02] <ozehka> no i deleted my user name
[10:02] <uga> feierfox: the line should be longer, including a device name or device UUID, right?
[10:03] <ozehka> what does core dumped mean?
[10:03] <feierfox> hmm it says, that the /dev/sda1 is allready mounted
[10:03] <feierfox> but i can't see the drive or files :(
[10:04] <quixogre> ozehka, not a good thing...unix/linux equivelant of blue screen basically...program crashed, and created a file of the reason
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda1 is the first partition of the first disk
[10:04] <feierfox> :/
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda2 is second primary partition of the first disk. sdb is the second disk, sdb1 is the first primary partition of the second disk...
[10:04] <uga> etc etc
[10:04] <dappermuis> ozehka: segmentation faults usually occur when you try access an illegal part of memory
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda=first disk. sdb=second one
[10:04] <ozehka> yes, mostly caused by corrupt memory
[10:05] <feierfox> mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:05] <dappermuis> yip, or bad programming :)
[10:05] <ozehka> yes... but all programs are bad coded? :P
[10:05] <uga> feierfox: okay. Then try this:  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[10:05] <uga> feierfox: it should work as root (with sudo)
[10:05] <ozehka> eclipse, firefox, totem, ...?
[10:06] <feierfox> hmmm
[10:06] <feierfox> :/
[10:06] <uga> what, didn't it work?
[10:06] <quixogre> anyone recommend a good virtual mmachine for linux? would like to run my xp partition soemtimes
[10:06] <uga> quixogre: VirtualBox or VMWare
[10:06] <feierfox> it shows me many options how to use this command
[10:06] <quixogre> !VMware
[10:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:06] <ozehka> lets exclude the "corrupt memory"... what could be the problem then?
[10:06] <uga> feierfox: what did you type exactly?
[10:07] <feierfox> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ext3
[10:07] <uga> feierfox: did I write "ext3" in my line?
[10:07] <uga> so why did you? =)
[10:07] <uga> I never do mistakes, okay? :P
[10:07] <feierfox> i should say, that i 'm using the unstable gutsy
[10:07] <feierfox> because it asked me for it
[10:08] <feierfox> you line: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:08] <dappermuis> ozekha: i have no idea - the fact that its happening to more than on program is troubling
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: uh-oh... if it asked for partition type, it means it didn't recognise it. That means it's not ext3
[10:08] <feierfox> but it is!
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[10:08] <feierfox> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[10:08] <ozehka> dappermuis: Use auto-complete. My nick's not ozekha ;-)
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: okay, the second disk wasn't detected by the kernel, then
[10:09] <feierfox> ah
[10:09] <uga> feierfox: ls /dev/sd*
[10:09] <ozehka> dappermuis: So it's quite likely that it's the memory. Could it be the HD too?
[10:09] <feierfox> i had the same problem with the unstable feisty!
[10:09] <uga> does it show anything like sdc, sdd...?
[10:09] <dappermuis> ozehka, lol - oops
[10:09] <feierfox> in my community more and more people had the same problem
[10:09] <ScorpKing> hi der dappermuis!
[10:09] <bleaked> so i had a failing root drive (ide), so i recently replaced it with a sata drive, then reinstalled.  everything worked until i removed the ide drive.  now it will not boot.  so i loaded up the live cd, then grub, located stage1 (hd0,0), set the root, then setup on hd0.  now grub loads with all of my old menu entries, but none of them work, giving an error 21 and something about the disk not being there.  i tried editing the grub config
[10:09] <bleaked> from within grub, and it seems to attempt to boot, but the loading bar just idles.   is there a way i can blow away all entries, build a fresh grub install on the correct drive pointing to the correct kernel?
[10:09] <dappermuis> ozehka: i don't know - never heard of hard drive causing a segmentation fault
[10:09] <feierfox> it only could fixed with downgrading the kernel
[10:09] <uga> feierfox: I had probs with an IDE drive, not with SATA
[10:09] <dappermuis> ScorpKing: hiya!
[10:09] <feierfox> so i hope they will bring a fix in the next kernelpatch
[10:09] <quixogre> ozekha, what distro you running?
[10:10] <feierfox> it'sSATA2
[10:10] <uga> feierfox: what's the motherboard?
[10:10] <ozehka> quixogre: Use autocomplete :D I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[10:10] <feierfox> ASUS ASRockK7...4A or something
[10:10] <uga> feierfox: give the Asus CD a try... it may contain drivers
[10:10] <feierfox> the HD is a SAMSUNG Spinpoint SATA2
[10:10] <uga> just like mine did. I found out thanks to genii
[10:10] <quixogre> ozehka: sorry. and when does the core dump occur?
[10:11] <feierfox> i think i should wait for gutsy become stable
[10:11] <ozehka> the longer kubuntu runs, the more likely starting programs causes core dumps....
[10:11] <ozehka> like now, i can't start firefox, eclipse etc
[10:11] <uga> feierfox: give the CD a try... if the drivers are there, it's only about loading their module. Both gutsy and festy live CDs failed to install on this box
[10:11] <uga> badly
[10:11] <ozehka> I think I'll run memtest86 for an hour or so...
[10:11] <thomas_> how do you remove a directory if it has stuff in it without caring that its not empty
[10:11] <uga> gutsy's runtime kernel is okay though
[10:12] <feierfox> nono, with feisty everything works fine!
[10:12] <feierfox> the trouble starts with upgrading to unstable gutsy
[10:12] <uga> feierfox: yeah, and Santa will bring me a porsche for xmas
[10:12] <uga> sure =)
[10:12] <ozehka> thomas_: rm -r dir/ (but I [unix-noob]  am not sure :D)
[10:12] <quixogre> ozehka: if its occurring habitually with time, could be memory, hard drive, swap space, processor overheating, lots of things
[10:12] <feierfox> but thanks a lot for your help!
[10:13] <uga> feierfox: as far as you can survive without second disk till gutsy is out...
[10:13] <feierfox> reboot :/
[10:13] <feierfox> lol
[10:13] <feierfox> fromt htis point :(((
[10:13] <quixogre> thomas_: man rm
[10:13] <feierfox> more than a half month :/
[10:14] <quixogre> !man
[10:14] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:14] <feierfox> and it isnt said, that it will then for sure :O
[10:14] <thomas_> ozehka: k ;)
[10:14] <ozehka> quixogre: Ah yes, btw - if I restart the X-Server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and relogin, progs work again
[10:14] <xenol> quixogre:  one detail about man, how can i cancel it and return to terminal?
[10:14] <ozehka> thomas_: Does it work? Man, am I leet B-)
[10:14] <feierfox> but, its possible, that the kernel-fix for my problem comes out tonight
[10:14] <uga> feierfox: I'm not that patient... if something I "buy" doesn't work, I either fix it in less than 2 days, or ditch it ;)
[10:14] <quixogre> xenol: :q
[10:15] <feierfox> and go to gutsy.unstable was my own fault (right word?)
[10:15] <xenol> quixogre:  ty :*
[10:15] <thomas_> ozehka: I think you're right
[10:15] <uga> feierfox: I was half-forced to do so
[10:15] <quixogre> wish more people knew how to read man pages.....
[10:15] <uga> but I'm pretty sure your second disk issue is only about loading a module...
[10:16] <feierfox> hmmm
[10:16] <quixogre> ozehka: so refreshing xWINDOWS FIXES THE PROBLEM?
[10:16] <quixogre> sorry for caps
[10:16] <ozehka> yes
[10:16] <feierfox> i coult take it as a essentiell expirience
[10:16] <feierfox> "how to life after a HD-head-crash"
[10:16] <uga> =)
[10:16] <feierfox> or something..
[10:17] <quixogre> ozehka: its been YEARS since i diagnosed a core file...but think thats what you need to do, to narrow down the problem.
[10:17] <ozehka> quixogre: A what? Sounds complicated :P
[10:18] <uga> feierfox: you could always install the feisty kernel in gutsy
[10:18] <quixogre> ozehka: grep for a file with core in the title....paste it to the clipboard thingy. hopefully me or one of the gurus can figure it out
[10:18] <thomas_> ozehka: hey do you know if you can tell what are files and folders when issuing the command tree?
[10:18] <uga> feierfox: if it's a kernel bug, it should get you fixed
[10:18] <ozehka> quixogre: ok thanks a lot
[10:19] <quixogre> ozehka: hehe it is...segmentation fault creates a "dump" of what was happening when the process crashed....usually a good indication of whats causing the crash
[10:19] <uga> feierfox: also, make sure there's no /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1... it may have taken a different name somehow?
[10:19] <quixogre> !core dump
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about core dump - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <ozehka> thomas_: Sorry...?
[10:20] <uga> quixogre: yup, but those dumps are only created when it's the root running, right?
[10:20] <feierfox> changing the kernel? are i'm linus torvalds?
[10:20] <uga> feierfox: who changed changing the kernel. Changing from one kernel to another
[10:20] <uga> installing a .deb file =)
[10:20] <quixogre> uga, dont think so...used to diagnose core files for users at motorola...
[10:20] <quixogre> linux may be different though...
[10:20] <ozehka> quixogre: Where are these core files located?
[10:21] <thomas_> ozehka: ok i have files and folders right....and when I issue "tree", it lists everything i have in this folder. However I would like to distinguish folders from files
[10:21] <uga> quixogre: uhm... I'm pretty sure I always got dumps only as root in the past... uhm... anyway, lets check next time ;
[10:21] <uga> ozehka: they are dumped in the directory you run, iirc
[10:21] <quixogre> ozekha, check the root directory. if not, there, look in the directory of the application thats crashing
[10:21] <ozehka> thomas_: ls?
[10:22] <ozehka> here, depending the type, they have different colors...
[10:22] <thomas_> ozehka: using "tree" :S
[10:22] <thomas_> ozehka: that's for ls
[10:22] <ozehka> ah, that's a prog - sorry can't help
[10:24] <quixogre> afk
[10:25] <ozehka> quixogre: Ah, a file called "nautilus-debug-log.txt" was created
[10:25] <quixogre> !paste | ozehka
[10:25] <ubotu> ozehka: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <ozehka> hmm, when i delete the file, it's created again :P
[10:26] <ozehka> and its getting bigger and bigger...
[10:26] <quixogre> let it get bigger then
[10:26] <ozehka> its basically just containing lots of these lines:
[10:26] <ozehka> 0x8187488 2007/09/27 21:21:21.5525 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[10:27] <ozehka> i hope, you don't mind that i post this here in the channel - because i don't consider this as "large text"
[10:27] <quixogre> run tail -f *filename* watch for lines that look like english
[10:28] <uga> lol
[10:28] <uga> ignore chinese ones ?=
[10:28] <quixogre> hehe or hex ones ;)
[10:28] <ozehka> english is only.. debug log dumped due to signal 11
[10:29] <uga> maybe a gdb traceback would provide more information?
[10:30] <quixogre> lol uga ya lost me. wassat?
[10:30] <uga> quixogre: gdb is the gnu debugger. you run the application with "gdb appname"
[10:30] <ozehka> its still growing and grwoing, already 5 mb :P
[10:30] <uga> then type "run" to execute it
[10:30] <uga> and once it crashes, you type "bt" to get a backtrace
[10:31] <uga> that should tell you what last functions the program went trhough, when it crashed
[10:31] <uga> but it needs debugging information compiled in for that
[10:31] <ozehka> I'm gonna refresh XServer... brb
[10:31] <quixogre> uga, MIGHT work...but problem isnt with a specific program. ALL apps seem to be core dumping after a period of time
[10:32] <uga> quixogre: that might mean a bug in a very common library
[10:32] <uga> gdb should follow libraries etc
[10:32] <uga> quixogre: does it happen with gui apps? only kde apps? also command line tools?
[10:33] <uga> what's that gets all those applications in common
[10:33] <quixogre> uga dont think so. is happening with firefox/other common apps, running on kubuntu 7.04 refreshing/restarting xwindows seems to stop it for a while
[10:33] <WoahWoah> Hey
[10:33] <WoahWoah> I went to search for a packet sniffer with Adept manager, went to install it and then went to "apply changes"
[10:33] <WoahWoah> does anyone know how I can open the program?
[10:33] <uga> quixogre: okay, so it's possibly X related, rather than application related
[10:33] <WoahWoah> Thanks!
[10:33] <uga> quixogre: what driver?
[10:34] <quixogre> uga yeah. thinking so...
[10:34] <uga> nv? nvidia? ati?
[10:34] <quixogre> uga: not sure, will have to wait for him to come back, and ask ;)
[10:34] <ozehka> i'm back :P
[10:34] <uga> quixogre: btw, it's not only related to firefox apps, right?
[10:34] <uga> ie, firefox, thunderbird, ... *zilla
[10:34] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: In adept, look up the program you've installed and click on "details", there you should be able to find something like "installed" files.
[10:34] <uga> quixogre: oh, I thought it was yours, failing
[10:34] <quixogre> UGA: CORRECT, HE LISTED SEVERAL APPS, FIREFOX WAS ONLY ONE I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THOUGH
[10:35] <quixogre> sorry for caps
[10:35] <stdin> WoahWoah: depends what you installed, if it's a GUI it'd be in the KMenu, else it's a command line app
[10:35] <ozehka> uga: nope, firefox, videoplayers (totem, kaffeine), eclipse, ...
[10:35] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Then look for an entry like /bin/foo or /usr/bin/foo , where foo is the name of your program
[10:35] <WoahWoah> Thanks guys
[10:35] <uga> ozehka: what's the Xorg driver you are using?
[10:35] <anthronaut> np
[10:35] <ozehka> but would be much more probably ... these are just programs i frequently use
[10:35] <ozehka> uga: err... how to look up? :P
[10:35] <WoahWoah> How do I search for entries anthronaut?
[10:36] <genii> back
[10:36] <uga> ozehka: edit /etc/Xorg.conf
[10:36] <quixogre> wb
[10:36] <uga> sorry no
[10:36] <uga>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: The same way you've searched for the files you wanted to install
[10:36] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Search: YourFileName and then hit Enter
[10:36] <ozehka> uga: i'll paste
[10:37] <ozehka> !paste
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <uga> ozehka: not full =)
[10:37] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: The program you've installed should be tagged "installed"
[10:37] <ozehka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38851/
[10:38] <uga> ozehka: uh?
[10:38] <uga> that only shows the header  =)
[10:38] <uga> not the configuration
[10:38] <ozehka> ah lol
[10:38] <ozehka> I thought you just need some version numbers :D
[10:38] <uga> it sounds like you're using the nvidia binary driver though?
[10:38] <ozehka> so full :P
[10:38] <ozehka> yes
[10:38] <uga> okay, that's all I was asking
[10:38] <uga> is it latest nvidia binary?
[10:38] <genii> uga: My p5k se still seems to be locking up sporadically ...bleh. Later tonight gonna swap out to an ASRock board someone gave me 2 of and see if it's any better, keep the Asus with another testing Feisty on it to work out the bugs.
[10:39] <uga> ozehka: and did you make sure it's not kubuntu's lrm driver that got loaded?
[10:39] <ozehka> uga: quite new
[10:39] <ozehka> lrm?
[10:39] <uga> ozehka: yes. it happens here  unless you uninstall linux-restricted-modules
[10:39] <uga> lrm drivers add their own nvidia before Xorg loads the proper one
[10:39] <ozehka> ah yes...
[10:39] <ozehka> but nvidia logo is shown at startup
[10:40] <uga> genii: ugh. Runs fine here, gutsy now
[10:40] <uga> genii: I haven't rebooted after the last kernel upgrade though
[10:40] <robert__> siemanolek :D
[10:40] <WoahWoah> Ok it is anthronaut
[10:40] <uga> ozehka: lrm ones don't?
[10:40] <ozehka> no idea :P
[10:40] <WoahWoah> When I search for the file though, where do I go to?
[10:40] <quixogre> afk again. smoke break
[10:40] <soniapor> Al gn spanish
[10:41] <uga> ozehka: easy test... from tty1: /etc/init.d/kdm stop. rmmod nvidia. /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:41] <uga> that should force loading the proper one
[10:41] <ozehka> uga: i just learned from some readme, when installing nvidia drivers, that if the logo was shown up, the installation was successfull
[10:41] <ozehka> ok
[10:41] <uga> soniapor: entra en #kubuntu-es
[10:41] <soniapor> okis
[10:42] <uga> soniapor: si el canal est muerto, avisa, y me paso por all. Creo que es lo habitual ;)
[10:42] <manolo> sometimes the xserver uses a lower screen resolution after start up and I have to restart it to get my desired 1024x768 which is a little bit annoying :-/
[10:43] <ozehka> uga: Could have warned me, that I'll be kicked out :P
[10:43] <uga> ouch, I thought you knew
[10:43] <uga> that stops kde's login manager... and the sessions opened by it
[10:43] <ozehka> Yes, when I read something about "kdm stop", I assumed something like that
[10:44] <uga> the only way to rmmod (remove the module) nvidia module is stopping Xorg
[10:44] <uga> else it doesn't work
[10:44] <ozehka> so now what?
[10:44] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: wait a min
[10:44] <uga> ozehka: now at least we know you're using the nvidia binary driver you installed manually
[10:44] <ozehka> (btw, I stopped kdm first - i was kicked out, kubuntu logo was shown, i pressed strg+alt+f1 to enter rmmod nvidia and kdm start)
[10:45] <uga> ozehka: are you using anything like beryl/compiz?
[10:45] <uga> ozehka: yup, that's right. I hope you run rmmod nvidia as root?
[10:45] <uga> else it'll have failed. I guess you did, else kdm stop wouldn't work either
[10:45] <ozehka> yes
[10:45] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: alright, when you've found the file in your list, there should be something like "Request Removal" and "Details" beneath the description, got that?
[10:45] <ozehka> beryl/compiz: I installed sth like that i think...
[10:46] <uga> ozehka: do you get anything like window shadows, wobly windows, translucent window decorations?
[10:46] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: I've got the german translation, don't know the real words.
[10:46] <uga> ozehka: that's compiz/beryl
[10:46] <ozehka> yes I know what that is...
[10:46] <uga> but it can be buggy. That's why I was asking
[10:46] <ozehka> xgl i think
[10:46] <uga> you don't need xgl to run beryl
[10:46] <uga> you can do so on normal Xorg. xgl was rather unstable
[10:47] <ozehka> well, i think i can choose - kde, gnome or xgl
[10:47] <uga> oh, weird since xgl isn't a desktop session type
[10:47] <ozehka> but this is simple kde, no 3d, transparence, etc :-)
[10:47] <emilsedgh> ozehka: that methos, and xgl, are deprecated
[10:47] <emilsedgh> s/methos/method
[10:47] <ozehka> tsk..
[10:47] <WoahWoah> Ok anthronaut :p
[10:47] <uga> ozehka: okay... lets see if everything goes fine. Else it's possibly a bug in either xorg, or nvidia binary driver
[10:47] <WoahWoah> Yeah
[10:47] <uga> ozehka: if it all goes fine, you'll have to remove the buggy lrm driver
[10:47] <emilsedgh> ozehka: AIGLX is now being used on X.org which doesnt need another new session
[10:48] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: right, click on "details"
[10:48] <genii> uga: I thought at first overheating but it's not. RH with the Asus rpms work fine, i may do some Alien chroot on them and see if a deb could be made
[10:48] <uga> genii:  22:48:48 up 4 days,  2:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.04
[10:48] <uga> :/
[10:49] <ozehka> uga: Just tell me what to do ^^
[10:49] <uga> genii: what cpu?
[10:49] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Then you can choose between some options and "installed files"
[10:49] <uga> genii: Core2 quad 2.44, here
[10:49] <WoahWoah> Yes anthronaut
[10:49] <uga> genii: and the 4gig corsair mem modules I mentioned
[10:49] <uga> genii: also, running 64bit gutsy
[10:50] <genii> uga: I/ve tried 2 different ones now. First was Pentium D 935 (Dual 3.2 cores) Second was Core2 Duo 6300 (dual 1.6 64 bit cores)
[10:50] <uga> I wonder if any of those are different and might affect you
[10:50] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Ok, then, under "installed files" you'll find all the locations of the files that adept installed for you. Look for an entry like /bin/xyz or /usr/bin/xyz
[10:50] <uga> ozehka: well, you need to test it. Does it get buggy easily?
[10:50] <genii> uga: I'm using OCZ DDR2-800, 500Gb Seagate SATA2 drive
[10:51] <ozehka> "it"?
[10:51] <genii> uga: You put a secondary video in there?
[10:51] <uga> ozehka: ie, try to reproduce the problem. If you can't anymore, then it's the lrm problem, and apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules
[10:51] <uga> genii: no, just a single video card, 8500gx. Actually, where can you plug a second card on this thing
[10:52] <ozehka> ah i see
[10:52] <uga> genii: that's something I was wondering. I get all confused with these pci express things =)
[10:52] <ozehka> just remove? ;-P
[10:52] <genii> uga: I'm thinking my video card may be the issue. PCI-E NVidia 7600 GT...I disabled the onboard
[10:52] <WoahWoah> anthronaut: I can use the search facility to search for files
[10:53] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: What's the name of your program?
[10:53] <genii> uga: Heh :) Same spot as on AGP boards, last one next to power supply side
[10:54] <uga|away> genii: sorry, the rj45 cable is loose...
[10:54] <uga|away> genii: 8500gt here. What I wonder is if you can actually have two gfx cards for twin video, or you need to use double output one
[10:55] <uga|away> does the 7600 have a twin output?
[10:55] <WoahWoah> Just uninstalled them anthronaut
[10:55] <WoahWoah> Would you recommend any programs?
[10:55] <genii> uga|away: I have a twin-head DVI (Nvidia 7600 GT) I diabled my onboard for now
[10:55] <uga> okay, that explains
[10:55] <genii> *disabled
[10:55] <uga> I believe the 8500 can do twin only through dvi+crt
[10:55] <uga> not two through dvi
[10:55] <WoahWoah> I'm quite new to this KUbuntu
[10:56] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: programs to do what?
[10:56] <genii> work, BRB
[10:56] <uga> genii: cya
[10:56] <WoahWoah> Network Tools anthronaut
[10:56] <WoahWoah> By the way thanks for your help
[10:56] <quixogre> WoahWoah: wireshark
[10:56] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: network tools to do what exactly?
[10:56] <PhinnFort> rrbiz: right click on the battery and click "restore"
[10:57] <uga> WoahWoah: traceroute
[10:57] <poison--> llo guys
[10:58] <WoahWoah> It seems I've downloaded one already (before)
[10:58] <uga> poison--: that's not fair
[10:58] <WoahWoah> I can use that on the shell can I not uga? :p
[10:58] <uga> poison--: I want another one =(
[10:58] <poison--> lol
[10:58] <uga> WoahWoah: yup
[10:58] <poison--> uga rules :D
[10:58] <uga> that's better =)
[10:58] <genii> poison--: That and a coffee and I'm all set :)
[10:58] <poison--> eheheh
[10:59] <poison--> sup buds?
[10:59] <poison--> tomorrow im gonna quit windows for good here at work
[10:59] <quixogre> WoahWoah: sudo apt-get wireshark ... its a GUI tool for monitoring/testing network traffic
[10:59] <uga> genii: I'll make coffee when I finish... you're invited to come over... 3 is better than two ;)
[10:59] <WoahWoah> Ok, I've located a file I downloaded, and when I go to open it nothing seems to happen
[10:59] <WoahWoah> Ok
[10:59] <poison--> setting up a machine running virtualbox so i can use the damn progries to make unatend windows cds
[10:59] <rrbiz> klaptop isn't saving my performance profile, is there a .conf or something that i can make it stick ?
[11:00] <thomas_> why won't this WORK! rename ../richmondhill/annex annex2
[11:00] <quixogre> thomas_: what error you getting?
[11:01] <thomas_> quixogre: none lol
[11:01] <thomas_> but it doesn't show its changed
[11:01] <quixogre> do ls. does annex2 show up?
[11:02] <zyp1> I wonder, in the gutsy, is it dolphin or d3plhin? and what version, and is it udated?
[11:02] <zyp1> updated
[11:03] <uga> sh33tlphin ;)
[11:03] <genii> uga: and how far again is that from toronto?
[11:03] <thomas_> isn't this the proper sytax: rename file file1
[11:03] <quixogre> thomas, yup
[11:03] <uga> genii: how good are you at swimming straight in atlantic strength water forces?
[11:04] <quixogre> or try mv file file1
[11:04] <uga> zyp1: 0.9.2
[11:05] <thomas_> I get no error and dir shows the same name
[11:05] <genii> uga: Guess you'll have to keep the coffeepot warm for a while....
[11:05] <zyp1> ok... thanks
[11:05] <uga> genii: the hotties poison-- sent me will help keeping it warm ;)
[11:05] <poison--> eheheh
[11:06] <WoahWoah> Thanks for your help anthronaut
[11:06] <genii> heh
[11:06] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: you're welcome!
[11:07] <quixogre> dangit, how do i subscribe to this brazilian hotties list???
[11:07] <uga> anyway, lets keep on topic. Else tonight I'll have nightmares of apt-get installing brazillian hotties ;)
[11:07] <poison--> lol
[11:07] <ScorpKing> welcome poison-- :D
[11:07] <poison--> heeeeeyyyyyyyyyy ScorpKing
[11:07] <ScorpKing> how goes?
[11:07] <poison--> toothache
[11:07] <poison--> :(
[11:08] <ScorpKing> ouch!
[11:08] <poison--> apt-get installing brazillian hotties  <---- rox
[11:08] <poison--> lmfao
[11:08] <thomas_> "Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"
[11:08] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:08] <stdin> !ot | stdin is watching you
[11:08] <ubotu> stdin is watching you: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:09] <thomas_> whats that mean?
[11:10] <uga> thomas_: that you can't talk about brazilian gals, unless konqueror crashes when displaying them and you got to report a problem
[11:10] <poison--> means freddy is comin for u
[11:10] <poison--> :D
[11:11] <thomas_> what? no my problem: "Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"
[11:11] <uga> uhm. That system tray application checking for updates... it only warns about security updates?
[11:11] <uga> because it doesn't turn up most of the times here, when there are new packs
[11:12] <genii> uga: I'm pretty sure it's criteria is set ti critical instead of all the updates
[11:12] <uga> thomas_: I don't think the comment was targetted at you...
[11:13] <quixogre> t?homas, what are you typing to get that message
[11:13] <uga> genii: ah cheers
[11:13] <Juacom99> hey quiox (Y)
[11:13] <quixogre> thomas_:
[11:13] <quixogre> hola juacom :)
[11:13] <thomas_> rename example example2
[11:13] <Juacom99> lol
[11:14] <Juacom99> how is texas today??
[11:14] <uga> thomas_: rename works with regular expressions, afaik
[11:14] <thomas_> quixogre: huh?
[11:14] <uga> thomas_: if you want to rename a file, you just "mv example example2"
[11:15] <quixogre> thomas_: try mv example example1
[11:15] <newsense07> whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?
[11:15] <newsense07> whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?
[11:15] <Juacom99> a lan
[11:15] <Juacom99> with a router
[11:15] <thomas_> quixogre: why doesn't rename work?
[11:15] <quixogre> newsense07: a hub. 20 bucks at best buy
[11:15] <newsense07> haha
[11:15] <uga> newsense07: an adsl router with several rj45 connectors?
[11:16] <newsense07> i got a switch and 2 network cards in this computer
[11:16] <newsense07> im connected to a wireless network but dont have physical access and have a computer with no wifi card
[11:16] <Juacom99> but switches don't shear an adsl dosn't it??
[11:16] <quixogre> thomas_: renames a perl command. stick with mv
[11:17] <uga> thomas_: "man rename"
[11:17] <uga> will show you what it does
[11:17] <newsense07> i understand networking but just dont know how to route incoming packets on eth0 to go through wifi0 connected to a wireless router
[11:17] <newsense07> never had to do it in linux
[11:17] <thomas_> quixogre: ty
[11:17] <uga> thomas_: it takes multiple files and renames them replacing certain content in their name. The replacement is defined by a perl regular expression
[11:18] <uga> not the easiest command to use ;)
[11:18] <ScorpKing> if i do sudo cp -rp ../../home/* /mnt/mylaptop/ (nfs dir) i get "cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/mylaptop/ecc': Permission denied" :( what's wrong? can't root copy to nfs?
[11:18] <stdin> newsense07: use firestarter, it has a GUI to do that
[11:18] <newsense07> stdin: thank you very ,much
[11:19] <quixogre> ScorpKing: think nfs has its own ownership/permissions
[11:19] <uga> heh, it should
[11:19] <ScorpKing> huh? ls -l /mnt/mylaptop/ and i own the files.
[11:19] <uga> else it'd be a real nice vulnerability ;)
[11:20] <ScorpKing> so what now?
[11:20] <uga> ScorpKing: does the remote nfs server allow write access?
[11:20] <quixogre> otherwise any jacka$$ with a laptop could plugin to the network with a laptop running redhat, and pwn all the nfs drives
[11:20] <ScorpKing> to me yea
[11:20] <uga> uhm
[11:20] <bradley> Quick question in the lull, Does anyone have an nvidia 8500gt with hd (hdmi) output (not DVI) working?
[11:20] <ScorpKing> it only allow acces to my ip
[11:21] <uga> bradley: sorry, vga output here
[11:22] <quixogre> ScorpKing: how are you authenticating with the remote nfs server?
[11:22] <ScorpKing> uhm, /mnt/hdb1/data 172.19.1.1(rw,sync) that's in the exports file
[11:23] <ScorpKing> and all the files on there being owned by uid 1000
[11:23] <quixogre> ScorpKing: not sure of the exact syntax, but you need to set read/write/execute permissions in there too
[11:23] <ScorpKing> i have all those
[11:24] <ScorpKing> it only fails when i use sudo
[11:24] <uga> oh
[11:24] <quixogre> ahhh okay. yeah. roots power is only on the machine your physically on
[11:24] <quixogre> root doesnt have root priviledges on an NFS drive
[11:25] <quixogre> for security purposes
[11:25] <uga> ScorpKing: "If I were to hazard a guess I'd say it's more to do with your nfs than sudo. Most NFS servers disallow root to write them"
[11:25] <uga> from sudo users forum
[11:25] <uga> http://www.gratisoft.us/pipermail/sudo-users/2005-December/002695.html
[11:25] <ScorpKing> how do i enable or fix that.
[11:25] <ScorpKing> looking...
[11:26] <quixogre> hehe not real sure you SHOULD fix that....
[11:26] <ScorpKing> it's only me on the box. :) backups
[11:26] <uga> ScorpKing: http://www.gratisoft.us/pipermail/sudo-users/2005-December/002697.html
[11:26] <uga> that's what could be a solution, pointed out as answer
[11:26] <poison--> so sweet using flashfxp with wine
[11:26] <poison--> weeeeeeee
[11:27] <quixogre> ScorpKing: meh. it sounds like a gaping security issue to me....
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> poison--: i fail to see how wine is sweet under any circumstances, but hey, whatever trips your trigger
[11:27] <ScorpKing> thanks guys. yeah, i don't need security here. my biggest worry is someone breaking in and stealing it.
[11:28] <uga> poison--: lemme know if you make wine work under x64
[11:29] <poison--> <Daisuke_Ido, eva tried to use FlashFXP with Linux?
[11:29] <poison--> i need to use it all day long
[11:29] <poison--> so.. before i install virtualbox, im usin wine
[11:29] <poison--> and its sweet dat i can actually use any win appz running kubuntu
[11:31] <quixogre> im trying to set up a virtual machine on my linux drive, using my xp partition for the data/etc...any recommendation on what to use/where to start? someone mentioned VMware, but cant figure out how to apt-get it
[11:31] <quixogre> !vmware |me
[11:31] <ubotu> me: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> "that"
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> "apps"
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[11:32] <jrattner> what package do i need to be able to ./configure
[11:33] <stdin> !b-e
[11:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:33] <uga> quixogre: vmware isn't free. You need to go to vmware site, register and download. Anyway, you can install VirtualBox, which is completely free
[11:33] <uga> quixogre: register, download, and pay to run, I meant to say ;)
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware server is free (as in beer)
[11:33] <uga> yeah, but limited
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> but nice FUD
[11:33] <uga> what fud
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> virtualbox kicks its butt in every way :)
[11:34] <quixogre> uga: thanks for the tip. where can i find info on virtualbox?
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> !virtualbox
[11:34] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: "pay to run"
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> server is *free*
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> as in free
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> no cost
[11:34] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: as I said. VMware server is limited
[11:34] <uga> VMWare workstation, what everyone wants, isn't free
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> but you don't *have* to pay to use it, you're implying it's necessary
[11:35] <ScorpKing> uga and quixogre: is it possible to pipe sudo cp -rp /home/* - to - cp as myself to nfs?
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> workstation, yes
[11:35] <poison--> <quixogre, virtualbox is actually easy to use
[11:35] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: I don't consider vmware player an dvmware server inside the "vmware" definition
[11:35] <uga> at least not in the general use for those apps from linux users
[11:36] <uga> just that. you understood. He did too
[11:36] <uga> no fud
[11:36] <poison--> im running xp with virtualbox on my other kubuntu machine
[11:36] <poison--> quite fast too
[11:36] <poison--> lol@ScorpKing
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware isn't vmware, i like that logic
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> but now i drop it
[11:37] <poison--> man i need beer and food
[11:37] <poison--> !offtopic
[11:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:37] <poison--> :D
[11:38] <jrattner> !be
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <jrattner> !b-e
[11:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:38] <poison--> woot
[11:39] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: not sure how much you get paid to support vmware, but seriously, if you can do _for free_ what you can do for free with Virtual Box (which kicks its butt as you said), you're a damn nice sysadmin,a nd I really got to congratulate you
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> hello
[11:40] <poison--> !hi
[11:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> copying files through local network from my WinXP PC to my xubuntu pc goes fine. but the other way around is as slow as downloading files from Internet. WTF?!!!
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> *kubuntu
[11:40] <poison--> use ftp.. faster
[11:40] <poison--> i know i do
[11:41] <poison--> seems the port as issues with win
[11:41] <Ben_Cs> but smb should be ok, so y is it slower then WinXP to WinXP transfer?
[11:41] <poison--> gFTP, run a win ftp server and youre done
[11:41] <poison--> change ports ans try
[11:41] <poison--> and*
[11:42] <uga> uh? who needs gFTP
[11:42] <uga> konquero can do ftp just fine
[11:42] <poison--> i do :D
[11:43] <poison--> and i luv it
[11:43] <uga> uhm okay, to each their own
[11:43] <uga> I prefer the swiss army knives
[11:43] <poison--> eheheh
[11:43] <uga> all in one app
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: devil's advocate :)
[11:43] <poison--> dont use konq much
[11:43] <poison--> too much time to load
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i use vbox on my laptop religiously for schoolwork
[11:44] <stdin> konqueror is preloaded in kde...
[11:44] <uga> poison--: konquis usually preloaded
[11:44] <poison--> i quite school sumtin like 30 years ago :D
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> because vmware couldn't do it :)
[11:44] <poison--> uga, u forgot i use vmware with this machine
[11:44] <poison--> everitin is slow
[11:44] <uga> poison--: so use vbox? :P
[11:44] <poison--> tomorrow will change it
[11:44] <poison--> eheheh
[11:45] <poison--> if i could import with virtualbox from vmware, sure
[11:45] <poison--> i would
[11:45] <uga> no well, I was kidding with that. But there's one thing that I like a lot about vbox. It's easy, much easier to get their modules working
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[11:45] <uga> poison--: you can
[11:45] <poison--> yes, it way easy
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> it can use vmware format images
[11:45] <poison--> i can!??!?!
[11:45] <poison--> wtf
[11:45] <uga> yup
[11:45] <poison--> sweet
[11:45] <ScorpKing> poison--: i did. :D
[11:46] <poison--> ScorpKing, youre from outofspace
[11:46] <poison--> :D
[11:46] <ScorpKing> hmmm, maybe. :)
[11:46] <poison--> ehehehhe
[11:46] <poison--> gonna do sum testin here
[11:47] <stdin> isn't it outer space, out of space is an error when your partition is full :)
[11:47] <uga> poison--: it's obvious. Check his plate number: UBUNEOUS GALXY 01256YF
[11:47] <uga> his passport is false though, it claims he lives in KDEcity
[11:47] <poison--> ahahahahahah
[11:48] <poison--> KDEcity rox
[11:48] <uga> well, kdetown exists ;)
[11:48] <poison--> gonna receive my new 400GBs tomorrow
[11:48] <underdog5004> awesome
[11:48] <ScorpKing> poison--: i don't like you any more. :(
[11:48] <poison--> my playKDEstation
[11:48] <poison--> :D
[11:48] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:48] <uga> guys, what do you do with diskspace
[11:49] <ScorpKing> i'm on 12GB now. ew...
[11:49] <uga> it's hard to install lots of crap and reach 30GB installs from kubuntu
[11:49] <poison--> well, running a sys at home with 800GBs space :D
[11:49] <poison--> and have 25GBs free
[11:49] <uga> why on earth would I need a 400GB drive ;)
[11:49] <quixogre> stuff it with pr0n mostly...
[11:49] <stdin> uga: you brag about it, that's it's primary purpose
[11:49] <poison--> well, i store alot of movies and mp3s
[11:49] <ScorpKing> my 320GB server is full. :(
[11:49] <uga> stdin: lol
[11:49] <ScorpKing> no music or movies
[11:49] <poison--> and no, i dont have any pr0n
[11:49] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:50] <poison--> :D
[11:50] <poison--> DIvx runs quite lovely under kubuntu too
[11:50] <poison--> so i made a huge collection
[11:51] <poison--> uga, u know any ftp client besides mc that can actually use SSL for transfers?
[11:51] <uga> poison--: doesn't konqueror do so?
[11:51] <Webbmaster> !adept-fix
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <Webbmaster> !adept fix
[11:51] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:51] <uga> poison--: you can use fish:// otherwise (through ssh)
[11:52] <Webbmaster> ubotu: thankyou
[11:52] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:52] <Webbmaster> of course
[11:52] <uga> poison--: I believe konqueror should be able to sftp://
[11:52] <slackern> uga: http://filezilla-project.org/client_features.php that one supports just about everything also
[11:52] <poison--> humm
[11:52] <poison--> neva tried filezzila
[11:53] <uga> poison--: you don't need to install 10 apps to do what an app that you already got installed can do ;)
[11:53] <poison--> i used igo, but it crashes averytime it trys to list a ftp
[11:53] <poison--> uga, is konqie yer luver?
[11:53] <poison--> :D
[11:53] <slackern> filezilla is nice but it might not be in 7.04 repos yet
[11:53] <uga> poison--: I'm konqui's hidden lover
[11:54] <poison--> ahahahah
[11:54] <poison--> i bet
[11:54] <uga> I don't really know why you'd waste so many memory and disk resources, when a single running app can do all your tasks
[11:54] <uga> remember the konsole test vs the "xterm" rocks guys?
[11:55] <uga> xterm guys would brag about their lower memory and resource usage...
[11:55] <poison--> oh well, till i get used to kubuntu, need to try everitin
[11:55] <uga> but after opening tons of terminals... and having xterms not sharing any resources...
[11:55] <uga> and using a single konsole for tons of different terminals...
[11:56] <uga> poison--: all apps you mention are out of (k)ubuntu (k)ontext though ;)
[11:56] <poison--> yeap
[11:56] <uga> you're getting used to more... uhm.. (g)ubuntu
[11:56] <poison--> lmao
[11:57] <uga> I gotta get used to cycling... and you enter your porsche and run the keys
[11:57] <poison--> ehehheh
[11:57] <poison--> i will
[11:58] <poison--> k guys, time to go home
[11:58] <poison--> cya tomorrow
[11:58] <poison--> *gone*
[11:58] <ScorpKing> c ya
[11:58] <uga> gnight poison--. Have nice g nightmares ;)
[11:58] <ScorpKing> poison--: go now. :P
[11:59] <poison--> i have a brazilian hottie at home
[11:59] <poison--> no nightmares at all
[11:59] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:59] <uga> those heat up cpus a lot... be warned
[11:59] <poison--> *gone*
[11:59] <stdin> poison--: you can stop that now
[12:00] <uga> heh, I wonder if freenode got filtering utilities
[12:00] <uga> like if you mention certain keywords, it'll print [beep]  instead
[12:00] <ScorpKing> uga: i decided to use scp to backup. it's working. :D
[12:00] <intelikey> uga no.  but the ops will kick you out of the channel for it.
[12:01] <stdin> no it doesn't, wouldn't be very "free" would it
[12:01] <uga> intelikey: I know,  no need to warn me. But would be nice if it allowed per channel adjusting those
[12:01] <uga> stdin: well, channel maintenance tools
[12:01] <uga> per channel set by the ops
[12:01] <stdin> no, because that would be insane to implement
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: like beeping out whenever someone says windows?
[12:02] <LjL> ...what?
[12:02] <stdin> and a huge resource hog
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: not really that tough
[12:02] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: no, rather things like "hottie"
[12:02] <uga> stdin: that's true
[12:03] <sainzeo> would anyone know why i'm unable to create a conversation with the groupwise plugin in Kopete - it gives me an error saying the chat cannot be created with error # 53560 - any suggestions?
[12:03] <stdin> sainzeo: no, but maybe people in #kopete know
[12:06] <sainzeo> stdin: thanks, i'll check it out
[12:07] <quixogre> back. miss anything exciting?
[12:07] <Russel> hiho
[12:07] <Russel> where are enviroments like $KDEDIRS set?
[12:09] <luca_> hi everyone
[12:09] <stdin> Russel: in the startkde script I think
[12:09] <luca_> my fn combo to modify luminosity in gutsy does not function anymore, someone has any ideas? :)
[12:09] <quixogre> !hi | luca_
[12:09] <ubotu> luca_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:10] <stdin> luca_: you wouldn't happen to be using a tashiba would you?
[12:10] <Russel> stdin: semse not so because they are used there
[12:10] <luca_> nope Dell
[12:11] <luca_> running Gutsy
[12:11] <ozehka> uga: still there?
[12:11] <luca_> the keys functioned until I upgraded
[12:11] <stdin> luca_: check in #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <luca_> only thing I have to complain about really, for the rest it shines :)
[12:11] <uga> ozehka: yes
[12:11] <luca_> stdin thanks
[12:11] <sainzeo> stdin: it doesn't appear there is anyone in #kopete
[12:12] <uga> ozehka: you run into trouble with the nvidia driver?
[12:12] <uga> again?
[12:12] <stdin> sainzeo: #kde is your next best bet then
[12:12] <intelikey> or ##linux
[12:12] <ozehka> uga: nope, not by now, I've been afk
[12:12] <uga> intelikey: too general =)
[12:12] <sainzeo> stdin: thanks again
[12:12] <uga> ozehka: ah, nice
[12:13] <stdin> Russel: $KDEDIRS is a KDE4 var, you have to set it manually afaik
[12:13] <quixogre> sainzeo: thought you figured out it was a known issue with kopete?
[12:13] <ozehka> uga: what did i do with rmmod nvidia?
[12:13] <uga> ozehka: you removed the loaded nvidia kernel module
[12:13] <sainzeo> quixogre: yeah, i'm just hoping there is someone who knows of a fix
[12:13] <sainzeo> quixogre: sorry to keep bothering you with it :(
[12:13] <ozehka> err.. so i'm running with what now?
[12:13] <Russel> i just saw it in compiling ktorrent because it says i install it somewhere else than default /usr
[12:13] <uga> ozehka: there's one package you have possibly installed. linux-restricted-modules. If you have, that includes its own nvidia driver
[12:13] <ozehka> lrm or nvidia binary?
[12:13] <quixogre> sainzeo: hehe not bothering me....good luck finding a workaround
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: it loads before the Nvidia-....run one you installed
[12:14] <Russel> is it set on your system?
[12:14] <sainzeo> quixogre: thanks dude
[12:14] <ozehka> hmm, and we wanted to test if the lrm-nvidia was corrupt?
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: so rmmod removed it, and after reloading Xorg, it'll have loaded the one Nvidia provided
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: it's older, and didn't work for me either
[12:14] <stdin> Russel: no.  are you sure you're not compiling the KDE4 version of ktorrent ?
[12:14] <uga> that's why I suggested you tested that
[12:14] <Russel> afaik there is no kde4 version
[12:14] <ozehka> ah, i see
[12:15] <Russel> and it compiled fine with kde3-dev :)
[12:15] <Russel> ok perhaps it is then not needed
[12:15] <uga> ozehka: if after all, you don't have any problems, then you just remove the package linux-restricted modules (it'll ask you to remove some linux general something too)
[12:15] <uga> and everything should run smooth
[12:15] <ozehka> err...
[12:15] <Russel> i just ask because my system is a bit broken :)
[12:16] <_2> broken ?
[12:16] <uga> ozehka: ie, if you run nvidia modules, it's best to run nvidia's installer and their latest package
[12:16] <ozehka> wouldn't it delete all the other modules too?
[12:16] <ozehka> which would be bad?
[12:16] <Russel> yes
[12:16] <uga> ozehka: no, just make sure it won't remove linux-image and the likes
[12:16] <uga> it won't remove them
[12:16] <uga> didn't here
[12:16] <Russel> i installed a slim system and installed later kubuntu-desktop but some things are not here and i had some problems with user setup
[12:16] <Russel> but it works :)
[12:16] <ozehka> how? apt-get delete linux-restricted-modules
[12:16] <quixogre> russel apt-get
[12:17] <uga> ozehka: apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules
[12:17] <Russel> quixogre: ?
[12:17] <_2> ozehka s/delete/remove/
[12:17] <ozehka> er.. yes, and how to deselect the other "important" stuff?
[12:17] <uga> tell me what it lists =)
[12:17] <uga> nothing should be important
[12:17] <_2> ozehka other important stuff ?
[12:17] <uga> ie, nothing should depend on proprietary drivers in kubuntu
[12:17] <ozehka> i have no idea
[12:18] <uga> _2: linux modules etc
[12:18] <ozehka> i thought lrm was one of the important packages
[12:18] <uga> ozehka: it'll be showing you what it will remove
[12:18] <uga> it'll show a list before you say "Y"
[12:18] <ozehka> okay, lemme try
[12:18] <uga> ozehka: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules will show you what it installs
[12:18] <uga> I don't think there's much more than nvidia stuff
[12:19] <uga> _2: I believe there was a metapackage like linux-foo-general, or so
[12:19] <ozehka> eh?
[12:19] <ozehka> it could not find the package linux-restrichted-modules
[12:20] <Russel> thank you i am leaving now
[12:20] <_2> uga linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:20] <ozehka> ah, append the kernel?
[12:20] <ozehka> common, ok
[12:20] <uga> ozehka: you can use adept too, it helps searching
[12:20] <uga> linux-restricted-modules - Generic Linux restricted modules.
[12:20] <uga> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic
[12:21] <uga> there's both
[12:21] <ozehka> it wants to remove: lrm-2.6.17-12-generic/lrm-2.6.20-16-generic/common/generic/nvidia-glx
[12:21] <uga> ozehka: it's fine
[12:21] <ozehka> okay...
[12:21] <uga> ozehka: one thing... have you got  the nvidia installer in hand?
[12:22] <jords> Just trying to upgrade my feisty to gutsy, and update-manager is giving me this error message: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch
[12:22] <quixogre> _2: too much typing. just apt-get remove *
[12:22] <stdin> !gutsy | jords
[12:22] <ubotu> jords: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: the nvidia installer might have overwritten some glx libraries. You may need to reinstall the nvidia binary again
[12:22] <ozehka> uga: no i haven't
[12:22] <_2> quixogre heh
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: ieh, kubuntu installed some. nvidia overwrote them. When uninstalling, kubuntu may remove nvidia ones
[12:22] <_2> quixogre \* maybe
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: I suggest you download the driver and reinstall
[12:23] <ozehka> okay, thanks
[12:23] <uga> ie, kdm stop, install it again, and kdm start
[12:24] <uga> ubotu: can you explain the reason for such weird names??
[12:24] <_2> quixogre apt-get remove '.*' would actually work.
[12:24] <uga> ie, ....
[12:24] <uga> !names
[12:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:24] <quixogre> hehe
[12:24] <uga> oh, heh, clever bot, clever bot =)
[12:25] <zeroziat> Hey there people.
[12:25] <quixogre> !hi | zeroziat
[12:25] <ubotu> zeroziat: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:25] <zeroziat> Hey...
[12:26] <quixogre> shouldnt ubotu's name be kubotu?
[12:26] <_2> so ubuntu ww, hh, bb, dd, ee, ff, and soon to be gg; are all the ubuntu releases   :)
[12:26] <zeroziat> Uh, I have a little problem, it's the wireless. =/
[12:27] <quixogre> how much ya wanna bet zesty zebras one of the releases?
[12:27] <zeroziat> Say, it works in Windows XP but not in Kubuntu.
[12:27] <ozehka> so would i reinstall nvidia-glx back again?
[12:27] <quixogre> zero what kind of wireless card you have?
[12:27] <_2> !wifi | zeroziat been here
[12:27] <ubotu> zeroziat been here: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:28] <quixogre> zeroziat:  what kind of wireless card you have?
[12:29] <zeroziat> I have one from Belkin.
[12:29] <zeroziat>                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:29] <quixogre> zeroziat: havent dealt much with belkins...try the wifidocs. if that doesnt help, come bug me
[12:30] <zeroziat> quixogre: Okay.
[12:30] <zeroziat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:33] <ScorpKing> how can i pipe dd if=/dev/hdc of=cd.iso | scp user@host:/directory ? is that even possible?
[12:34] <quixogre> hehe ScorpKing still trying to figure out the backups thing?
[12:34] <ScorpKing> yes. lol
[12:35] <ScorpKing> i'm using scp to copy my home dir but need to dd the main partition.
[12:35] <quixogre> not familiar with DD. whats it do?
[12:35] <quixogre> errr dd
[12:35] <teggen> Nabend. Ich htte eine kurze Frage zur Anzeige der Mac Adresse unter Linux/Kubuntu. Hat jemand kurz Zeit?
[12:36] <ScorpKing> it's like ghost
[12:36] <ScorpKing> makes a image of a cd or hd. very handy
[12:36] <quixogre> teggen sprechen zie deutsch?
[12:36] <ScorpKing> !de
[12:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:36] <teggen> ah ok danke | thanks
[12:36] <quixogre> damn. scorp beat me to it
[12:36] <ScorpKing> :D
[12:37] <quixogre> scorp, why not run them on seperate lines? you dont really need to pipe it do you? just writ a small script, and trigger it in cron
[12:38] <ScorpKing> ugh, scripts. :( i don't have enough space. it needs to go over the network as it's being copied.