[02:06] <tarelerulz> This might be the wrong place to ask ,but I am lost and someone told me to come here.  I ssh into my remote computer and run vncserver and then I open a tap on the terminal for my local computer  Then I put vncviewer  ipaddress-desktop:1 .   The computer is at gdm screen I think.
[02:06] <tarelerulz> vnc will not let me on
[02:11] <leonel> according to the times    PostgreSQL  8.3  will be released in this year    any  chances it got included  in Hardy ?
[02:15] <kgoetz> when this year?
[02:22] <leonel> kgoetz: at years end  maybe
[02:22] <leonel> so if it gets released  good chances are that gets included  right ?
[02:23] <kgoetz> leonel: good chance it would make it into universe, not sure about main
[02:26] <leonel> "we" need it in main  :-P
[02:27] <leonel> I mean  if it will be a LTS  having a 8.2 version for 5 years  when the 8.3 is out I think it's not too good
[02:29] <kgoetz> being LTS unless its well tested it wont make main
[02:29] <leonel> well  let's  test it :0
[02:29] <leonel> :)
[02:29] <kgoetz> lol :)
[02:36] <tarelerulz> when I run vnc on  the computer I want to vnc into I get this "xauth:  /home/tarelerulz/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored
[02:37] <tarelerulz> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/tarelerulz/.Xauthority"
[02:38] <tarelerulz> I just lost . If this is not the right place I understand .  Just not getting any help in #ubuntu .
[02:41] <kgoetz> tarelerulz: can you write to the home directry?
[02:42] <tarelerulz> local or in the remote computer ?
[02:44] <kgoetz> both
[02:46] <tarelerulz> I ssh into the remote one and I can write to home directory on it and I can write to the home directory on the local one to.
[02:47] <kgoetz> whats `ls -lh /home/tarelerulz/.Xauthority` output?
[02:49] <tarelerulz> for the remote one it is "-rw------- 1 root root 929 2007-09-25 04:20 /home/tarelerulz/.Xauthority and the local one -rw------- 1 root root 251 2007-09-14 19:50 /home/tarelerulz/.Xauthority
[02:50] <kgoetz> are you trying to connect s root?
[02:50] <kgoetz> those files should be owned by the user in question, not root
[02:51] <tarelerulz> I am not trying to log  on them as root
[02:53] <tarelerulz> all I did on the remote one is install  vnserver and then I ran it .  I have have use sudo at the time.  When I went to back to the computer I just put vncserver in
[02:54] <tarelerulz> one the remote computer I installed vncserer one
[02:54] <tarelerulz> It said username-desktop:1
[02:54] <tarelerulz> When I try to  do vncviewer from my other computer it would not let me on
[02:55] <tarelerulz> With the ipadress:1 of the remote computer
[02:57] <kgoetz> those .Xauthority files have the wrong owner, you wont be able to log in while thats the case
[03:01] <tarelerulz> So how would I change the owner of thoese files ?
[03:02] <ajmitch> leonel: given that hardy will have an upstream version freeze around mid-feb, there's a good chance it'll get in
[03:02] <kgoetz> ssh into the system and type `sudo chown <correct owners name> .Xauthority`
[03:03] <tarelerulz> WEll, I need to turn off the vncserver to  do  that. So it is not use the file or something
[03:04] <tarelerulz> Just asking , I don't know and I wanted to make sure I understand everything. OH by the way thanks alot for your help
[03:05] <leonel> ajmitch: great !
[03:09] <kgoetz> tarelerulz: i dont know if you have to turn off vnc server, i havent used it.
[03:11] <tarelerulz> when I ssh into the remote computer  I just type vncview in and it runs it .
[03:11] <tarelerulz> Is that the right way. I think it runs it as my normal user .
[03:12] <tarelerulz> I did sudo vncserver one time so that maybe the reason the files are owned by root.
[03:13] <kgoetz> as i say - i havent used it beoer
[03:14] <tarelerulz> haha this is all so fun.  I like have some idea what is going on.  Thanks for your help
[03:14] <kgoetz> np
[03:15] <tarelerulz> When I do get this working  my networking dreams will be realized .  I must say I love Ubuntu/Linux .
[08:46] <kgoetz> anyone running slapd on gutsy?
[08:47] <kgoetz> i'm wondering if your seeing a  /etc/ldap/slapd.conf: line 43: unknown directive <checkpoint> inside backend database definition (ignored).
[08:47] <kgoetz> in syslog. i'm pretty sure that optiosn there by default.. wondering if its  a bug
[08:50] <ScottK> soren: DId you get anywhere with looking into vmware-player?
[08:55] <soren> ScottK: No, Malcomlm didn't show up yesterday before I left.
[10:47] <ajmitch> evening
[10:47] <_ruben> gug
[11:14] <soren> gug?
[11:23] <_ruben> generic utc greeting
[11:23] <_ruben> saying 'evening' at 10:47am is a bit odd ;-)
[11:43] <emretemp_> 12:42 pm here ; )
[11:45] <_ruben> the joys of inter-timezone-communications :)
[01:26] <ScottK> soren: OK.
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> _ruben, when someoen enteres the channel, its morning, when they leave its evening. there is no other rule :)
[01:28] <soren> ScottK: Huh?
[01:28] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: Leave the channel? wtf?
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> soren,  /part /quit etc
[01:28] <mralphabet> o0
[01:28] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: Who does that?
[01:28] <ScottK> soren: Just saw your reply about vmware
[01:28] <soren> ScottK: Oh.
[01:29] <_ruben> Kamping_Kaiser: that's an 'odd' rule i'd say ;)
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[03:20] <nealmcb> I'm up for ubuntu membership in the Community Council meeting in 2 hours.  Mostly based on my loco work, but if anyone would like to vouch for my participation in the server team, that would be appreciated :-)   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NealMcBurnett
[03:27] <jcastro> soren: Do you feel comfortable doing a -server session for ubuntu open week?
[03:31] <soren> jcastro: I'm not entirely sure what a "yes" to that question would actually entail.
[03:31] <nealmcb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[03:32] <soren> nealmcb: I'll be there cheering you on!
[03:32] <dantalizing> nealmcb, unfortunately, i dont think wannabes have any clout
[03:33] <dantalizing> that didnt come out right....i 'll be there, but not sure i'll add value
[03:34] <jcastro> soren: basically you answer a bunch of questions from users.
[03:34] <jcastro> soren: it doesn't matter to me who it actually is, as long as it's someone from the server team.
[03:34] <soren> jcastro: Ah, no, talk beforehand? Then it's fine. Sign me up.
[03:34] <jcastro> soren: kees volunteered you when you were sleeping. :D
[03:34] <jcastro> soren: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
[03:34] <jcastro> pick a time
[03:34] <soren> jcastro: How nice of him :)
[03:35] <jcastro> beginning of the week would be best, we're trying to spread them out.
[03:35] <soren> Um... Do you think ogra has considered that he should be en route to Boston at that time?
[03:35] <soren> Ah, no, he should be there already at that time. NEver mind.
[03:36] <soren> Heh... All of the available slots are outside my working hours :) Let's go with Monday 1600-1700 UTC.
[03:37] <nealmcb> dantalizing: My sense is that clout is important for some things, but not for confirming that I've been known to offer supoprt on #ubuntu-server and show up at meetings and actually follow thru on an action item or two :-)
[03:37] <soren> nealmcb: Could you give me a ping here or something when you're up?
[03:38] <nealmcb> ping
[03:38] <soren> "up" as in "when it's your turn in the meeting" :)
[03:38] <soren> Not as in "awake".
[03:39] <nealmcb> soren: ahh - I'd be delighted to :-)
[03:39] <soren> ...or have I just ruined a joke?
[03:39] <soren> Ok :)
[03:39] <_ruben> hehe
[03:41] <nealmcb> soren: I'm #3 on the list and they are starting with locos and members this time, so it will be earlier than usual
[03:41] <soren> It's in an hour and 20 minutes or thereabouts, right?
[03:46] <dantalizing> soren: yes
[03:47] <soren> Mkay
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> hey folks, just reading Beta release e-mail, and saw "Pre-configured installation options: Mail Server, Print Server, Database
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> Server, and File Server options join existing LAMP and DNS options
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> Wanted to give you all a high-five, as that was something on my personal wishlist, so great job!
[03:55] <_ruben> hmm ..
[03:59] <soren> tonyyarusso: :)
[04:07] <_ruben> what would be the next lts version? or isnt that known yet?
[04:08] <lamont> _ruben: hardy(?).  gutsy+1 in any case
[04:12] <_ruben> ah ok, so that'd be 6-7 months from now, right?
[04:19] <mathiaz> _ruben: april 2008
[04:20] <mathiaz> I've written an email I plan to send to ubuntu-serverml to ask for beta testing of ubuntu server. It's located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/GutsyBetaAnnouncement.
[04:20] <_ruben> i should check our novel suse subscription details .. im not that happy (anymore) with sles9 and/or sles10 .. considering alternatives
[04:20] <mathiaz> If anyone wants to have a look and comment on it, it would be great !
[04:22] <_ruben> "It doesn't take some much time..." ? ;-)
[04:25] <mralphabet> mathiaz: "and this an easy and simple way"
[04:26] <mathiaz> mralphabet: this *is* an easy - corrected. Thanks.
[04:27] <mralphabet> mathiaz: _ruben's comment above is for you as well
[04:27] <mralphabet> 09:19 < _ruben> "It doesn't take some much time..."
[04:28] <mathiaz> mralphabet: yeah - corrected.
[04:28] <mathiaz> _ruben: thanks.
[04:28] <_ruben> np
[04:28] <_ruben> i wish we had a proper test environment here .. i'd love to try out ubunutu-server as an alternative for our suse boxes
[04:35] <mathiaz> _ruben: you could use vmware to do your test.
[04:36] <_ruben> i did a single ubuntu server install under ubuntu already (dont recall if it was feisty or the last lts version) to see what was in it (version-wise and all)
[04:37] <_ruben> the fact that ubuntu has a faster release cycle than novel/suse is both a pro and con for us (and for many others i think)
[04:37] <_ruben> we actually went from debian (after having abandoned slackware) to suse due to debian's insanely slow release cycle
[04:37] <nealmcb> mathiaz: I'd suggest asking for testing of the tasksel stuff also
[04:37] <_ruben> we needed 2.6 kernel and sarge was getting delayed over and over
[04:40] <nealmcb> the release announcement talks of "Mail Server, Print Server, Database Server, and File Server" - but shouldn't that be Samba Server or something?
[04:41] <mathiaz> nealmcb: Thanks - updated.
[04:41] <mathiaz> nealmcb: technically yes.
[04:41] <mathiaz> nealmcb: well the task is named Postgresql Database server
[04:42] <mathiaz> nealmcb: mysql server is installed with the LAMP tasks.
[04:42] <nealmcb> I think using the actual task names is good in documentation, release notes, etc
[04:42] <nealmcb> ahh - so lamp with postgres means uninstall mysql?
[04:42] <mathiaz> nealmcb: no. mysql and postgresql can coexist.
[04:42] <nealmcb> sure, but it is often good to remove unused packages
[04:43] <mathiaz> nealmcb: sure. But this is not what tasksel should be used for.
[04:43] <nealmcb> ala the discussion of samba+nfs vs one or the other
[05:23] <keescook> soren: well, by volunteer, I suggested you'd know more than me about the subject.  :)
[05:23] <soren> keescook: Where "the subject" is "whatever people ask", apparantly :)
[05:24] <keescook> soren: heh.  you want to do it as a team?
[05:25] <soren> keescook: No, no, it's fine.
[05:57] <nealmcb> soren, et al., Looks like I'll be next, after peanutb who just started.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[05:57] <soren> nealmcb: I'm there, dude.
[06:04] <nealmcb> I'm up
[06:04] <nealmcb> soren ^
[06:04] <soren> I see it.
[06:23] <frojnd> hello tere
[06:23] <frojnd> there*
[06:23] <frojnd> I've came to a part where do I have to set partitions
[06:23] <frojnd> so I have:
[06:24] <frojnd> configure software raid, configure LVM guided partitioning, help on partitioning and undo and finish...
[06:24] <frojnd> but
[06:24] <frojnd> when I click on a configure software raid
[06:24] <frojnd> nothing happens
[06:24] <frojnd> just ask: keep current partition layout and configure raid
[06:24] <frojnd> and than I click yes
[06:24] <frojnd> and there is just a big blue screen
[06:25] <frojnd> and I can write there...
[06:25] <frojnd> I don't think this is right..
[06:27] <soren> You need to create a partition for raid first.
[06:27] <soren> Create a partition, and make set it to "use as: software raid volume" or something.
[06:59] <bddebian> Hey folks.  Any apache2 gurus here?
[06:59] <mathiaz> bddebian: you should just ask your question...
[07:01] <bddebian> Gah.  I'm looking through several of the libapache-xxx-xxx packages to see if they are still needed.  Right now I'm looking at libapache-asp-perl which depends libapache-filter-perl and libapache-ssi-perl.  I don't think the filter depends is necessary anymore and from what I'm reading apache2 includes mod_include.  Just trying to verify that.
[07:23] <sommer> hey all, I have a Sun Blade 100 and I was wondering if that old of a machine will work to test the Sparc ISOs?
[07:23] <sommer> I did get the ISO from the other day to install fine.
[10:38] <frojnd> hm
[10:38] <frojnd> that's interesting
[10:38] <frojnd> I've just installed ubuntu server
[10:38] <frojnd> and now I wanna install xfce
[10:38] <frojnd> but there isn't any xfce package
[10:38] <frojnd> do I have to load it first?
[10:38] <frojnd> from web?
[10:40] <ivoks> yes
[10:40] <ivoks> it's not on CD
[10:41] <mathiaz> frojnd: you can try to install xubuntu-desktop from the web
[10:42] <osmosis> anyone know what the xen package name is on gutsy server ?
[10:43] <ivoks> osmosis: ubuntu-xen-server?
[10:43] <osmosis> ivoks: i think thats what it is on 386, but that package doesnt exist on AMD64
[10:43] <frojnd> mathiaz: I wanna to install it really with low requirements...
[10:44] <frojnd> mathiaz: I know xubuntu-destkop has more than I need...
[10:44] <ivoks> osmosis: i don't think xen is builded for amd64
[10:44] <osmosis> ivoks: its gotta be. its one of the main programs that uses 64.
[10:44] <mathiaz> frojnd: try xfce4 then
[10:44] <frojnd> mathiaz: ok
[10:44] <ivoks> osmosis: apt-cache search xen
[10:45] <sommer> frojnd: you might also look into fluxbox.
[10:45] <sommer> it's very lightweight though
[10:45] <osmosis> ivoks: for 386 gutsy, can you tell me which packages  ubuntu-xen-server installs ?
[10:45] <frojnd> hm, sommer I don0't have fluxbux package..
[10:46] <sommer> ya you'll need to apt-get install fluxbox to get it.
[10:46] <sommer> from the net not cdrom...fyi
[10:46] <frojnd> sommer: apt-get install fluxbox, package can't be found
[10:46] <ivoks> Depends: bridge-utils, libc6-xen, libxen3.1, python-xen-3.1, xen-docs-3.1, xen-hypervisor-3.1, xen-ioemu-3.1, xen-tools, xen-utils-3.1, linux-xen
[10:47] <frojnd> also xfce4 itself... there are missing dependencies..
[10:47] <sommer> frojnd: have you commented the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:48] <frojnd> sommer: nop, nothing :=
[10:48] <sommer> frojnd: what version are you running?
[10:49] <sommer> of Ubuntu
[10:49] <frojnd> sommer: 606 LTS
[10:49] <frojnd> ekhm
[10:49] <frojnd> my monitor is a little squeezed...
[10:49] <sommer> do  you have universe enabled?
[10:49] <frojnd> I need to reset it
[10:49] <frojnd> I can't see what's enabled, disabled
[10:50] <frojnd> just a sec
[10:53] <frojnd> sommer: I've uncomment out...
[10:53] <frojnd> so fluxbox is even leighter than xfce4 ?
[10:54] <sommer> frojnd: yep, which depending on your needs may work great for you.
[10:54] <sommer> if you do apt-get update you should be able to install it.
[10:54] <frojnd> sommer: I have 400mhz 256mb ram..
[10:54] <frojnd> vesa graphic card...
[10:55] <sommer> heh...I'd use fluxbox with that hardware over xfce4
[10:55] <sommer> but xfce4 probably wouldn't do too bad
[11:00] <sommer> frojnd: here's a site with some more info on fluxbox:
[11:00] <sommer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%29
[11:00] <sommer> not sure how up to date it is though.
[11:01] <mralphabet> frojnd: have you disabled the cd as a source in your repos?
[11:01] <mralphabet> frojnd: nm, i'm 15 minutes behind
[11:03] <mralphabet> osmosis: packages.ubuntu.com may answer your questions too
[11:06] <frojnd> sommer: that's funny.. I've installed fluxbox and xdm and restart computer. But than it only says startinx X display manager xdm and nothing... I'm still on server also if I press ctrl + alt +7 nothing happens...
[11:06] <frojnd> what could be wrond
[11:06] <frojnd> wrong
[11:06] <fujin> anyone know how to configure snmp-trapd?
[11:13] <frojnd> Hm...
[11:14] <frojnd> Thats interesting... now I've installed GDM
[11:14] <frojnd> and It says that cannot start x because: /etc/X11/X no such file or directory aborting
[11:14] <frojnd> How can I configure my xorg...?
[11:16] <frojnd> anyone?
[11:16] <frojnd> apperantly I don't have X in my /etc/X11/
[11:16] <mralphabet> frojnd: I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you are dealing with the channel that uses the command line for almost everything
[11:17] <frojnd> mralphabet: I know :) I'm trying to get out of this command line :D
[11:17] <mralphabet> frojnd: we don't usually even have X installed
[11:17] <frojnd> mralphabet: I see..
[11:18] <frojnd> mralphabet: still I think that someone tryed here to install X with minimum requirements to work
[11:18] <mralphabet> frojnd: so what I am trying to say is that we probably aren't the best at troubleshooting X ;(
[11:19] <mralphabet> frojnd: instead of installing individual packages, it would be better if you installed the virtual package for the window manager you want to use
[11:19] <mralphabet> frojnd: so xubuntu-desktop I believe
[11:20] <frojnd> mralphabet: hm I'm trying to install X with as little as possible of crap. :)
[11:20] <frojnd> mralphabet: that's why I chose fluxbox
[11:20] <mralphabet> frojnd: and hows that going for you?
[11:21] <mralphabet> frojnd: slightly tongue in cheek there, but hopefully you see my point
[11:23] <mralphabet> frojnd: this is on 6.06?
[11:23] <frojnd> mralphabet: I'm reading some faq on fluxbox home page...
[11:23] <frojnd> mralphabet: i won't just give up cause gdm can't read X11*
[11:24] <mralphabet> frojnd: heh, okay
[11:24] <mralphabet> frojnd: this may help: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/fluxbox
[11:25] <frojnd> tnanx mralphabet
[11:25] <frojnd> thanx mralphabet
[11:43] <fujin> if you install fluxbox, the dependancies should take care of themselves