=== greg [n=greg@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu
gregis there a program to record screen?01:20
TheSheepthere are several ones01:21
gregTheSheep name a free one plz01:22
gregthats in apt01:22
TheSheepgreg: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=RecordMyDesktop01:23
gregTheSheep can you help me with wine?01:26
greg0% [Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com (] 01:27
greg down :(01:27
TheSheeptry archive.ubuntu.com01:28
=== R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1279307247.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu
General_TsoDoes anyone know what login manager Xubuntu uses?01:41
TheSheepGeneral_Tso: gnu desktop manager01:42
General_TsoThank you, TheSheep.01:43
TheSheepGNOME Display Manager01:43
Jester45gdm for short01:43
TheSheeptoo late I guess01:43
General_Tsohehe  Thoughts that what you meant, but i was about to do a google search on that one.  haha01:43
gregTheSheep that prgrm fails01:47
gregwhem im in full screen it only records pixels ,ose is on01:47
TheSheepgreg: you are in full screen?01:49
gregTheSheep i need to be for a program01:49
TheSheepit records the desktop, desktops are usually displayed in full screen, unless you use xnest or vmware or something01:49
gregTheSheep is a prgrm runnin in wine01:49
TheSheepgreg: if you want to rip a movie, better use some ripper01:49
TheSheepgreg: is it a 3d application?01:50
gregyes kind of01:50
TheSheepgreg: recording opengl overlays might be hard01:50
=== cishpix [n=Blue@] has joined #xubuntu
=== mindframe_ [n=mindfram@] has joined #xubuntu
TheSheepgreg: maybe changing some graphics settings in the app will help01:55
TheSheepgreg: so that it doesn't use hardware acceleration01:56
gregima try using digital cam instead01:56
darrendanyone suggest why a job in /etc/cron.daily/ would fail to run?  File is +x and works fine when invoked manually.  All other jobs in the dir run normally via cron02:04
aryr100-afkis there a easy way to change X11 mouse themes ?02:04
aryr100-afkin gnome I can just add it to themes02:05
TheSheeparyr100-afk: settings->mouse settings02:10
aryr100-afkkk just add the tar there as I would in gnome with themes ?02:12
TheSheeparyr100-afk: I don't think so02:12
TheSheeparyr100-afk: I *think* you need to unpack the tar in ~/.icons02:13
aryr100-afkkk tried that when I use the alter cmd not showing up ?02:13
TheSheepwhat's "alter cmd02:14
=== Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #xubuntu
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has joined #xubuntu
=== s-x-u [n=s-x-u@ip56508163.direct-adsl.nl] has left #xubuntu []
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu
gregTheSheep you there?02:53
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has joined #xubuntu
=== cishpix [n=Blue@] has joined #xubuntu
=== bigfuzzyjesus_ [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu
=== zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903208.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu
=== squirrelpimp [n=squirrel@2001:6f8:915:0:230:1bff:feb9:742b] has joined #xubuntu
=== travisbickkle [n=sean@ip70-174-180-199.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu
travisbickkleanybody familier with webilder?04:06
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has left #xubuntu []
=== LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL168-152.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu
=== Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@206-15-138-1.dialup.ziplink.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@206-15-138-1.dialup.ziplink.net] has left #xubuntu []
=== The-Kernel [n=Robert@] has joined #xubuntu
=== kupesoft [n=dave@CPE003018b02a53-CM0018c0c44e76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu
kupesoftSilly question, but how do I take a screenshot with Xubuntu?05:17
travisbickklekupesoft: http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#visual_appearance05:20
=== Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu
travisbickkleanyone know how the smartbookmarks applet works?05:32
travisbickklecan someone help me with printer issues?05:43
=== superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #xubuntu
superm1Hi guys, got a question re how a few things get started in xubuntu.  What package sets up spawning things like gnome-screensaver upon startup?05:47
superm1we're going to be adapting some xfce related items for mythbuntu, and were at a bit of a loss05:47
superm1since its not mentioned anywhere in xubuntu-default-settings05:48
=== Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #xubuntu
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has joined #xubuntu
=== The_Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-] has joined #xubuntu
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has left #xubuntu []
=== Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== [1] Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #xubuntu
=== The_Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-] has joined #xubuntu
=== Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== hyper_ch [n=hyper@] has joined #xubuntu
=== elbing [n=elbing@] has joined #xubuntu
=== tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu
=== ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu
=== salox [n=salox@] has joined #xubuntu
saloxhi, have xubuntu 7.04 (i386) on 900Mhz Duron, i want to instal a i686 kernel. What i need to do pls?08:36
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has joined #xubuntu
Ramlawell, there used to be kernel packages linux-i686 linux-k7 (you'd want the latter) but aren't they outdated by now?08:42
Ramlayarr, obsoleted by linux-generic08:42
Ramlaif you want to be sure to have an optimized kernel, you can compile it yourself08:44
Ramlathis howto's a nice one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31115808:44
Ramlayou might need to install nvidia drivers from nvidia's installer after that. don't know about ati08:45
Ramlasalox: highlighting afterwards :p08:45
=== Catoptromancy [n=catw@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu
saloxso the only way is to compile a kernel?08:49
=== michaelpo [n=presario@] has left #xubuntu []
saloxno precompiled kernel in repository or something?08:49
Ramlai think it's all linux-generic now. am not sure though08:50
saloxi know that i386 kernels use x386 instruction's set wich is a waste for a 686 procesor08:51
Ramlawell, compiling isn't that hard. you can do the config in X and since you have a working kernel setup already you just need to disable what you don't need08:53
Ramlamight take an hour or two to compile with that duron08:53
saloxthat's it08:56
Ramlanp, thanks for having me something to do on this extra boring lecture. another class is starting though, so bye :p ->08:58
=== predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu
=== aussieman_ [n=bobo@223.Red-88-11-223.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== aussieman_ [n=bobo@77.Red-88-26-108.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== Pablo [n=Pablo@1e.71.d1c4.cidr.airmail.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== damike [n=michael@N563P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #xubuntu
=== kryl [n=gui@] has joined #xubuntu
krylI want to install gnome on xubuntu and after that I do the reverse actually I broke some package for example gcalctool doesn't want to run11:06
krylmay I have something to fix by easy way ?11:07
=== wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-153-109-247.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has joined #xubuntu
=== vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp85-21.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu
=== predaeus_ [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has left #xubuntu ["Byyyeee"]
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has joined #xubuntu
warblerI used synaptic to get bittorrent and bittorrent-gui but I can't get them on the menu or from terminal - anyone know how to get them working?11:53
totalwormfacewarbler: wasn't it 'btdownloadgui'?11:59
totalwormfaceor something11:59
warblertotalwormface: btdowmload is for gnome and I also tried that but couldn't get that on the menu or working from terminal either12:01
totalwormfaceah ok12:02
warblertotalwormface: have set up xubuntu on old comp as a nfs file server and to handle torrents but can't get the torrent side to work12:02
totalwormfaceand it was such a good plan! :P12:02
totalwormfacei think the answer will be on the forums12:03
warblerwant to make god laugh - tell him your plans :)12:03
warbleri would try azureus but it gets slagged off for being to resource hungry12:04
totalwormfacehehe that's not a very good idea :] 12:05
totalwormfacei use ktorrent on my old download comp, mhich also isn't such a very good idea, but i liked the interface better than other clients12:06
totalwormfaceand it has to be userfriendly for my roommates :P12:06
warblerbittorrent is good on my daily ubuntu system - never had an issue12:06
warblertotalwormface: you were right - btdownloadgui is what is needed in terminal to open bittorrent - I have a lib missing - and it is not in synaptic:(12:19
totalwormfacewell, glad it worked out :P12:22
totalwormfacelet's get that box downloading :9~12:23
=== L`uka [n=luka@] has joined #xubuntu
warblertotalwormface: not working - removing bittorrent - kicking dog - looking for something else...12:32
totalwormfacein whatw ay isn't it working12:33
L`ukaanyone here experienced some odd problems with "Allow Xfce to manage your desktop" option?12:36
warblertotalwormface: it is a problem that has been known for some time from the bug reports I've just been reading - bittorrent-gui has a dependency that is not in the repositories12:36
totalwormfacehm, /me needs to get to class :] 12:40
=== MatBoy [n=matthijs@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu
=== Doomguy0505 [n=chatzill@CPE-139-168-193-49.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu
Doomguy0505Heh, the problem was the computer's cd rom drive12:55
Doomguy0505It only found defects on the old computer12:55
TheSheepDoomguy0505: burn the cd at the slowest possible speed12:56
Doomguy0505How would that help?12:56
Doomguy0505The newer computer went through the defect test fine but the lower end one couldn't read packages12:57
TheSheepDoomguy0505: old cd drives are less sensitive, the slower you burn, the longer the writer's laser has contact with thecd surface12:57
=== Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu
=== Jester45 [n=ryan1@d11-82.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-211-220.eunet.yu] has joined #xubuntu
nikolamhello I cant kill a process and that is happening all the time01:13
nikolameven sudo kill -9 does not help01:13
nikolamthunar is meditating and doing nothing01:13
nikolamBeagle is using 100% cpu01:13
nikolamgam_server is always active01:14
nikolamcant write to udf CD-RW disks01:14
nikolametc etc.01:14
nikolamAnd yes, OpenOffice does not work at all01:15
nikolamAlso Document viewer does not display pdf`s01:15
Doomguy0505TheSheep: It didn't help, the computer must be really bad01:16
nikolamYes computer is so bad, i think it is transformer actually.01:16
=== kryl [n=gui@] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"]
nikolamMaybe it have something to do with raid rebuilding itself with md2_resync active togetrer with md2_raid101:17
nikolamI reely dont want to reinstall but:01:18
Doomguy0505nikolam: I'm talking about something else01:18
nikolamDoes open office works at your site? I am using 7.04 Xubuntu 64-bit01:18
nikolamOh, yes, I recently updated Bios, could it be something with that?01:19
nikolamI have gutsy on second raid partition and it is So unstable and killing grub three times a week01:20
TheSheepnikolam: run memtest01:21
nikolamits ok. Default settings. I will do a memtest anyway, will make it do it few hours.01:22
nikolamAnd then I will Backup and reinstall 7.0401:22
nikolamis there any way to backup .deb`s from package cahe, also?01:22
nikolamHmm nice. And then addit as repository after reinstall, right?01:23
nikolamCould it be burned to .iso file instead?01:24
Doomguy0505yes, it creates an iso file before burning01:25
Jester45why not just direcly copy the files and then when you need them cp into the cache01:27
Doomguy0505because we don't know how...01:28
nikolamWhat you meen when I need them? everytime synaptic wants it, to manually copy? I tried once to copy all already downloaded debs directly to cache. it didn`t work. it downloaded them again.01:28
Jester45it shouldnt have01:29
TheSheepyou can always install debs directly with dpkg -i or gdebi01:29
nikolamOK, boys, doing waiting of md2_resync to finish > Backup data> aptoncd to iso > memtest few hours > reinstall 7.0401:30
nikolamnewer thought that copy of 33Gb could take so long on 60-70MB`s drives. (2 raid 1`s)01:46
Doomguy050533gb of debs?01:48
Jester45lol download the whole main repo just in case internet gets lost01:49
nikolam33gb of everything beagle cache, 5 gigs of docs, isos, downloads, everything01:49
nikolamnot debs, that will be separately, i thin 1 gig or so01:49
Jester45lol i would never have time to backup my downloads01:51
Jester45nor the space01:51
nikolamWe have debian .dvd-`s for that occasion of being deserted alone on island, dont we? :)01:51
nikolamI think I didn`t find ubuntu dvds with source to download, just synaptic01:52
nikolamAnyway, my deb cace is no more than 1 Gig or so.01:53
nikolamIn fact that there is many html files, small files etc. But 33gigs should be done years ago now.. if its actually copies files from one disk to the sam disk, yust other partition I should actually consider half of the minimal speed minus raid oreverhead X2 Hmm..02:01
=== Doomguy0505 [n=chatzill@CPE-139-168-193-49.sa.bigpond.net.au] has left #xubuntu []
nikolamit is intersting how mc takes 35-60% cpu on copying but total cpu usage in `top` shows no more then 10-13% of total cpu. Hmmm.02:03
=== ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu
=== vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp85-21.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu []
=== JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu
=== maxamillion [n=adam@ss-5-55.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has joined #xubuntu
=== CRXLPY [n=al_h@c-68-52-240-189.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== Arkh [n=Arkh@] has joined #xubuntu
=== jarnos [n=jarnos@dsl-trebrasgw1-fea0fa00-245.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu
=== YakSolo [n=john@c-71-229-76-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu
warblerWhat does everyone use as a bittorrent client on xubuntu? I can't get bittorrent to install because of unresolved dependencies...03:31
=== ronnie [n=ronnie@pool-71-255-226-22.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== mindframe_ [n=mindfram@] has joined #xubuntu
=== vinze [n=vinze@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu
maxamillionwarbler: deluge torrent03:39
maxamillionwarbler: http://deluge-torrent.org/03:40
warblermaxamillion: is it gui? - I'll look at it now03:40
maxamillionwarbler: yes it is03:40
maxamillionwarbler: if you want cli, check out rtorrent ... its really nice03:41
warblermaxamillion: am using rtorrent on xubuntu headless server - goes OK - was wondering what others with xubuntu use because I had dramas installing bittorrent - a first for me with any -buntu03:43
=== Kilroo [n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu
maxamillionwarbler: when i want a gui, i use deluge torrent ... that's really the only one i know anything about03:46
warblermaxamillion: just reading on how to encrypt my torrent downloads to improve speed - deluge looks good!03:48
=== neozen [n=neozen@] has joined #xubuntu
=== vinze is now known as vinze|brb
=== Joakim [n=leho@217-159-251-8-dsl.the.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu
=== vinze|brb is now known as vinze
=== PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu
=== Twinkletoes [n=chatzill@izca1501.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu
=== Dr`Maison [n=fred@chy02-1-88-176-124-69.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== sparrw [n=kvirc@] has joined #xubuntu
=== JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #xubuntu
superm1any xubuntu dev folks around?05:41
TheSheepsuperm1: try the mailing list05:42
superm1TheSheep, xubuntu-users?05:42
superm1or another one05:42
vinzexubuntu-devel :P05:42
superm1ah of course :)05:42
superm1thanks guys05:42
=== vinze has the strange feeling he'll receive an email in the next few minutes :P
=== Mahasamatman [n=al_h@c-68-52-240-189.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== faemir [n=faemir@85-211-165-65.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu
=== The-Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-] has joined #xubuntu
=== L`uka [n=luka@] has joined #xubuntu
superm1vinze, in flight :)05:55
=== skyadmin [n=skyadmin@ool-44c7e914.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu
vinzesuperm1, Mythbuntu switching to Xfce? Nice :)06:04
superm1vinze, yeah, and loving it thus far :)06:04
neozenI seek apt wisdom06:10
neozenneed to use a repository... but only for package names matching a mask06:10
superm1neozen, apt-get install package-* ?06:11
Pumpernickelneozen: Behold: apt-pinning. http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html06:14
neozenPumpernickel: O.o06:17
neozenthankee will check out after work06:18
=== mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ
=== feliciano [n=felician@] has joined #xubuntu
=== ..[topic/#xubuntu:Pumpernickel] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Tribe 5 (UNSTABLE):
=== damike [n=michael@N628P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #xubuntu
=== ..[topic/#xubuntu:Pumpernickel] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Beta (UNSTABLE): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/beta/
=== ..[topic/#xubuntu:Pumpernickel] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Beta (UNSTABLE): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/beta/
=== mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel
felicianoHi, I'm using gutsy.. and i see there is a problem with the font dpt. The problems is old and it comes from the others releases... edgy, feisty, etc.. but the solution dont work with gutsy... have you some tip for that??06:25
PumpernickelWhere are you encountering problems with it?06:26
felicianothe font size06:26
felicianoI usually use 8 point fonts... but now 8 is too small06:27
PumpernickelUse a larger font, then.06:27
felicianothat is not a solution06:27
felicianothe problem is this... http://xubuntuchile.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/problema-con-el-tamano-de-fuentes/06:28
PumpernickelI'm afraid I don't understand the language there.06:29
felicianoPumpernickel, the post is in spanish but you can see the modifies to the file in feisty to solve this problem06:29
felicianothe problem is the dpi configuration is in 92 dpi... and we need 96 dpi06:30
Pumpernickelbug 11874 should explain the changes introduced to DPI autodetection in Gutsy.06:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 11874 in ubuntu-meta "ubntu-base should depend on mtr *or* mtr-tiny, not just mtr-tiny (dup-of: 11381)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187406:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 11381 in ubuntu-meta "ubuntu-meta metapackages could be more flexible" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1138106:33
Pumpernickelbug 11874506:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118745 in xorg-server "Font sizes in Gutsy are affected by bad X.org DPI detection" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11874506:34
felicianothat is for gnome only?? or that can work with xfce?06:37
=== ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu
=== MBR666 [n=bryan@pool-129-44-137-125.buff.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== vonck7 [n=vonck7@cp562554-b.landg1.lb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu
=== zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== hummlbach [n=hummlbac@dslb-088-065-085-115.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu
hummlbachgood evening07:13
=== feliciano [n=felician@] has joined #xubuntu
felicianoPumpernickel... GDM is the problem... I begin with startxfce4 and the problem is solve07:15
felicianoI need to know if is there some aplication to login for xfce07:16
=== vinze [n=vinze@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu
=== Joakim [n=leho@80-235-63-221-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu
hummlbachhas anyone already installed gutsy as ltsp-server?07:20
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+107:22
hummlbachoh thanks07:22
hummlbachi'm sorry07:22
=== twointo1 [n=bob@c-71-62-232-42.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu
twointo1hi - i'm using wifi-radar with xubuntu and it works great.  I'm looking a package that will show my connection on the upper taskbar.  can anyone help07:26
vinzeHave you tried the "Network Monitor" panel plugin?07:26
twointo1no, but will it conflict with wifi-radar?07:27
=== hyper__ch [n=hyper@] has joined #xubuntu
vinzeI don't think so07:27
vinzeBut it's not that much effort to try ;-)07:28
twointo1great, i'll giver a try!07:28
twointo1is it better to use synaptics or add/remove?07:28
vinzeDoesn't matter07:29
vinzeAdd/Remove... has extensive descriptions, but some packages don't show up there that do in Synaptic07:29
=== archangelpetro [n=bleh@] has joined #xubuntu
=== andihit [n=andi@andihit.net] has joined #xubuntu
andihitwhen i want to install the 7.04 alternate cd, my pc hangs after detecting network hardware (i see only the blue screen with no text) - with and without lan cable07:48
=== predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu
=== hyper_ch [n=hyper@] has joined #xubuntu
=== hyper__ch [n=hyper@] has joined #xubuntu
=== afb [n=afb@c83-248-0-139.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #xubuntu
=== mindframe_ [n=mindfram@] has joined #xubuntu
afbHi, what does Xubuntu Gutsy use for software update notifications on the desktop ?08:21
=== archangelpetro [n=bleh@] has joined #xubuntu
afbis that the same as in gnome ?08:22
afbok, thanks08:23
afbah, OK, think I know why I didn't find it...08:25
afb"Please note that Xubuntu does not by default run the update-notifier known from Ubuntu."08:25
vinzeWill be in Gutsy, just isn't yet08:26
afbI'm running a little panel plugin instead08:26
=== ShadowChaser [n=chaser@] has joined #xubuntu
=== ShadowChaser [n=chaser@] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"]
vinzeHey hyper__ch08:34
hyper__chanyone using the beta yet?08:40
=== PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu
=== archypetro [n=bleh@] has joined #xubuntu
predaeushyper__ch, I am.08:56
=== andihit [n=andi@andihit.net] has left #xubuntu ["Verlassend"]
hyper__chpredaeus: how is it?09:00
predaeushyper__ch, so far, very nice.09:01
hyper__chpredaeus: that's good :)09:01
vinzepredaeus, what do you like best?09:02
hyper__chthat it works ;)09:03
predaeushuh, tough question. I don't know everything that changed under the hood. But from the looks, I like the new theme. Also it seems to be faster (menus popping up faster) but I don't know if this is just subjective.09:03
vinzeNo, that'll be correct09:04
vinzeTheme engine is faster09:04
=== mindframe- [n=mindfram@ip72-207-244-33.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu
predaeusBrasero also is a new cd burning application, looks neat.09:04
=== vinze can't wait to try Gutsy
predaeusThe new places panel plugin is nice, should be editable though (or easier to edit).09:05
vinzeWhat would you like to edit?09:06
predaeusadd my own "places" entries.09:06
vinzeYou can09:06
vinzeIn Thunar09:06
predaeushm I can't figure out how.09:07
TheSheeppredaeus: drag and drop09:07
vinzeJust drag a folder to the left panel (if it's in favourie mode)09:07
TheSheepyou can also do it in the open dialog09:07
predaeusah! cool didn't realize, never use the side-pane.09:08
vinzeI always bookmark "/tmp" :P09:08
predaeusoh dammit, now I dragged it into Trash by mistake. It should be possible to rearrange entries lateron.09:09
predaeusBut I seriously think the default looks of xfce4-terminal should be changed to something that fits the theme more. I personally always change it to white background, or some light color.09:12
vinzeYeah what Ubuntu has is cool IMHO09:13
predaeusThe current default in xubuntu is too l33t looking *g*09:13
=== afb [n=afb@c83-248-0-139.bredband.comhem.se] has left #xubuntu []
predaeusvinze, hm, haven't seen that one for a long time, hehe09:13
vinzeI hadn't either, recently tried it when I wanted Feisty working on USB09:14
predaeusah, cool09:14
=== archangelpetro [n=bleh@] has joined #xubuntu
vinzeThe main reason Ubuntu's one is cool is because of the font I guess, most fonts don't work well for a terminal in white on black09:15
vinzeI think it's some monospace font09:15
=== ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu
=== Dr`Maison [n=fred@chy02-1-88-176-124-69.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903208.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu
=== arttu [n=kali@hoasb-ff0edd00-85.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu
=== Colossus73 [n=gt@ip-153-123.sn3.eutelia.it] has joined #xubuntu
=== sx66 [n=sx66@66-215-33-8.dhcp.arhd.ca.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu
Colossus73I upgraded to gutsy09:59
Colossus73and now when I click on the ntfs partition on the desktop09:59
Colossus73they are not mounted anymore because ntfs-3g is not installed09:59
Colossus73I don't need to write I just need read access, how can I do this?10:00
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:01
Colossus73what does is mean the !ntfs10:01
Colossus73when using feisty I could mount them10:01
Colossus73after the upgrading ntfs-3g is requested10:01
Colossus73but I don't want to install it because I don't need write access10:02
Colossus73only read one10:02
=== sam_w [n=sam@spc2-leds2-0-0-cust371.seac.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu
TheSheepColossus73: read that link10:03
Colossus73TheSheep: that link doesn't match my needs. Anyway thank you.10:03
Colossus73I didn't download any diskmounter script under feisty10:04
Colossus73and I COULD mount the ntfs partition10:04
=== sam_w [n=sam@spc2-leds2-0-0-cust371.seac.broadband.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu []
Colossus73now AFTER the upgrade I can't because ntfs-3g is requested10:04
TheSheepColossus73: gutsy is still beta, don't expect everything to just work out of the box10:04
Colossus73some config files is to be changed I guess but which one10:05
ubotuGutsy Gibbon (7.10) *BETA* information and release notes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta - If you regularly update, then you're running the latest version - ISOs and Torrents at http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/ - It is development software and as such unstable, support ONLY in #ubuntu+110:05
TheSheepColossus73: it's decribed on that page, really, /etc/fstab10:06
Colossus73gt[~] $ cat /etc/fstab|grep ntfs10:07
Colossus73gt[~] $10:07
Colossus73I will ask on #ubuntu+110:07
Colossus73thanks a lot10:07
Colossus73do you know why update-notifier doesn't work on my system?10:07
TheSheepColossus73: I think it's being worked on in gutsy10:08
Colossus73does it work on your festy?10:09
TheSheepColossus73: I uninstalled it when it was still dapper ;)10:09
Colossus73I think I will do the same10:10
Colossus73I manually check for updates daily10:10
=== sx66_xfce [n=sx66_xfc@66-215-33-8.dhcp.arhd.ca.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== Colossus73 [n=gt@ip-153-123.sn3.eutelia.it] has left #xubuntu []
=== zoredache [n=zoredach@pdpc/supporter/active/zoredache] has joined #xubuntu
=== sx66xfce [n=sx66xfce@66-215-33-8.dhcp.arhd.ca.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== arttu [n=kali@hoasb-ff0edd00-85.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #xubuntu []
=== neozen [n=neozen@] has joined #xubuntu
neozenhoallo again all10:48
neozenI'm back10:49
neozenw/ more issues on this t41 graphics card10:49
neozenfigured out how to deal w/ the permanently blanking screen when I closed the lid.... just switch to a virtual console and back again....10:49
neozenhigh cpu usage in terminal windows remains10:50
neozenif I open, for example, a man page in a terminal... and scroll through it... CPU usage jumps to about 60%10:50
neozen...on a 1.6 chip..... that's HUGE!10:51
neozenforget about scrolling a fullscreen terminal in X... cpu usage goes to 100% and I get about 1 line / sec10:52
neozenany ideas?10:52
neozen01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]  (rev 02)10:53
TheSheepneozen: disable transparency10:53
TheSheepneozen: even better, disable compositing10:54
neozenheh.. compositing disabled10:54
neozennever bothered to turn it on10:54
TheSheepneozen: maybe you could try? %)10:54
neozenum... no10:55
neozenwhen I dd.... it got worse10:55
TheSheepyou never know10:55
neozen..ALOT worse10:55
=== Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu
neozenhmm... disabling transparency made scrolling fullscreen term quite a bit faster10:56
neozenbummer... that was a nice effect10:56
=== maxamillion [n=adam@ss-5-55.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu
=== grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu
=== warbler [n=warbler@] has joined #xubuntu
neozenTheSheep: Terminal w/ transparency can't take advantage of this card?11:08
neozenalso... glxgears has a little over 900FPS .... should this be higher?11:09
=== The-Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-] has joined #xubuntu
TheSheepneozen: niot sureabout ati, terminal transparency doesn't use hardware acceleration when you have compositing disabled11:21
neozeneverytime I use this work laptop... I'm reminded why I never buy a box w/ non-intel cards11:22
neozenintel 950 in R60 has NO such issues11:23
=== TheSheep prefers nvidia
neozenbrightness buttons used to make the screen go black before I blacklisted video.... but no other display issues11:23
TheSheepnot sure about laptops though11:23
=== neozen grins
neozenany thoughts on Rage 128 support?11:24
neozenmy server (which will soon become my desktop) has a rage 128 in it...11:24
=== Ben_Cs [n=Ben@] has joined #xubuntu
TheSheepI'm really notup to date with hardware, I tend to buy computer and use it as long as it keeps running, my last switch was 2 years ago from P50011:26
TheSheepor was it pentium 200?11:26
TheSheepthe one before that was 38611:26
Ben_Cscopying files through local network from my WinXP PC to my xubuntu pc goes fine. but the other way around is as slow as downloading files from Internet. WTF?!!!11:26
TheSheepBen_Cs: what protocol?11:26
TheSheepno idea :(11:27
Ben_Cswould ftp be faster?11:27
TheSheepunless the problem is on the windows box somehow11:28
TheSheepbut what could be wrong with windows, honestly? ;)11:29
=== pleia2 [n=lyz@clockbot.net] has joined #xubuntu
Ben_Cswhat's a good ftp server for xubuntu?11:31
TheSheepproftpd is pretty good, I think11:32
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd11:36
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP11:36
TheSheepBen_Cs: yay, even a graphical configurator :)11:37
Ben_Cscool. tnx11:38
neozenTheSheep: used to be exactly the same way...11:44
neozenTheSheep: before I finished college... bought a thinkpad... then got another one from work11:45
neozen..now.. I (try to!) use both11:45
neozenhilarity ensues11:45
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:46
=== wisam [n=wisam@] has joined #xubuntu
Ben_Cswell tried ftp. still get 30kbps11:54
Ben_Csnevermind. will boot to winXP to transfer files then11:54
wisamso xubuntu 7.10 beta doesn't have compiz nor tracker installed by default. right?11:55
hyper__chBen_Cs: why not using torrent? Isn't that quicker?12:03
hyper__chsorry ;)12:03
hyper__chonly saw "what's a good ftp server for xubuntu" and I thought you meant for downloading ;)12:04
Ben_Cssamba is the protocol for windows network right? so why the heck it's so slow? i don't get it12:04
hyper__chwhy not using scp?12:04
hyper__chwinscp for example12:05
Ben_Csnever heard of it12:07
hyper__chwinscp is a program from windows to access in a ftp-like manner another computer over ssh/sftp12:08
hyper__chscp exists also on linux from the command line12:08
hyper__chcould be cmpared to konqueror's fish protocoll12:09
=== kbrooks [n=kbrooks@d235-140-72.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== MatBoy [n=matthijs@wiljewelwetenhe.xs4all.nl] has joined #xubuntu
=== margaret [n=margaret@static24-89-93-146.weyburn.accesscomm.ca] has joined #xubuntu
margarethow do I turn off the remember last session12:22
Mahasamatmanis it still true that the 'buntu's are against compiling kernels?12:22
Mahasamatmanbtw, not trolling, just asking12:23
=== vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu
=== Jester45 [n=ryan1@d11-82.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu
=== tripppy [i=polarisx@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu
warblermargaret: it is under sessions and startup12:37
margaretit is unchecked but when I restart I get apps trying to open again warbler12:38
Jester45check it then12:39
Jester45and then log off and log in and then uncheck12:39
warblermargaret: are they in autostarted applications?12:39
margaretno there is only lvm, restricted , print queue12:40
Jester45arrg... i jsut downloaded the tribe 5 last night12:40
Jester45and now the beta is out12:40
margaretalso if I have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)12:40
margaretshould I install 915 resolution?12:41
=== Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@pool-70-20-60-173.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu
Jester45install a resolution?12:42
Jester45do you mean enable or use a resolution12:42
margaretif you open synaptic it is one of the first entries12:43
margaretI believe it is a resolution modifiying tool12:43
Jester45do you need it?12:43
margaretwell I have beryl installed and it seems to be acting shady12:44
margaretlike I cannot pick anything to change only can change emerald themes12:45
Jester45slowly? if you lower the resoultion that should make it run faster but then everything will be bigger12:45
Jester45have you tried the display settings app12:45
margaretwhat do I want to run faster Jester4512:47
=== Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #xubuntu
=== Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@pool-70-20-60-173.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu
margaretJester45,  Im not sure what you are trying to get at12:48
Ghostvirusanyone here running avant-window-navigator?12:48
Ghostvirusi'm just wondering how stable awn is on xfce, since it was apparently buggy when run with xfce a few months ago12:51
=== Twinkletoes [n=chatzill@izca1501.brookes.ac.uk] has joined #xubuntu
Ghostvirusseems to come with a few gnome deps too :/12:52
margarethey Jester45 are you still there?12:54
Ghostvirusack, seems awn has issues with xfce still :(01:04
=== Jester45 [n=ryan1@d11-82.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu []
=== bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu
Ghostvirusanyway, looks like someone's working on a fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~malept/awn/desktop-agnostic01:11

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!