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superm1hi folks, by understanding is that the edubuntu gutsy beta disks have been encountering a lot of unionfs issues, correct?04:49
superm1s/by/my/04:49
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sbalneavsuperm1: Where have you heard this?05:13
superm1there was talk of it in -devel last night05:13
superm1relative to my time, so around 24 hours ago05:13
superm1i was curious if the final beta disk was deemed better05:14
superm1since mythbuntu beta disks are an absolute mess still :(05:14
sbalneavI know there were problems with unionfs, but afaik, they were solved.05:15
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sbalneavEvening RichEd05:59
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sbalneavHey ogra06:33
sbalneavYou're up early06:33
ogra2h of sleep06:33
sbalneavAt the hotel?06:34
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ograyeah06:34
sbalneavHeh06:34
ograi urgently wait for mail from RichEd (i think he forgot that cyprus is 1h ahead in time )06:35
RichEdhi ogra ... i'm here ...06:35
RichEdit 7:35 now your time ?06:35
RichEdand you start at 9:0006:35
RichEdare you going down to breakfast & to find the others ?06:36
RichEdi'll send the first one through in 30 mins06:37
ogracurrently i'm trying to remember how to dress06:37
ograbut yes06:37
ograi'll go for the others if i'm able to move06:37
RichEdokay ... go meet the others and pop back before you leave06:37
ogragah06:42
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | please help tesing gutsy (7.10) beta https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Edubuntu
=== Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Tue Sep 25 19:00:54 2007
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rolanddHow come I cannot edit files owned by www-data while I am in the www-data group?09:31
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bddebianHeya03:59
shriphanihello !04:00
bddebianHello shriphani04:01
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sbalneavMorning all04:25
juliuxmornin sbalneav04:26
joebob777as7morning04:31
joebakerThe Firefox flash plugin's sound isn't coming out...  I installed edubuntu daily 9/25/2007 desktop.  I'm going to reboot to see if the udev update helps.04:32
joebakermorning. :)04:32
joebob777as7i know alsa just got updated for me...04:33
joebakerhttp://www.dcresearch.com/ronpaul/bostonglobe.pdf   (I'm the guy in the green shirt on the bottom of the page)04:33
joebakerrebooting...04:34
joebob777as7and i'm the woman in the red up top...04:35
joebob777as7;P04:35
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sbalneavI'm the "B" in "Boston Globe"04:38
sbalneavHmmm, me evil plan for localapps is thwarted by the lack of a libnss module to allow me to read information from files other than /etc/passwd and /etc/group04:40
sbalneava la libpam-pwfile04:40
sbalneavSooo....04:40
sbalneavI guess I'll just have to write one.04:40
sbalneavmoquist: Pingity!04:41
joebakerSound works after update and reboot on local machine.04:41
joebakerjoebob777as7:  Funny...04:43
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hungrysamhow can I upgrade tuxtyping and open office on edubuntu 6.105:39
hungrysam?05:39
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sbalneavhungrysam: Best way would be to simply update the edubuntu altogether.05:45
sbalneav7.04's the standard now, and 7.10 will be released soon.05:46
hungrysamsbalneav: the problem is that the machines are older machines and don't run the newer versions well05:53
hungrysambut I was hoping that I could just get the programs like tuxtyping and gcompris updated05:53
sbalneavSo, you've tried 7.04 on these machines?05:56
sbalneavBetween 6.10, and 7.04, there wasn't any huge increase in system requirements, so something that runs 6.10 should run 7.04 just fine.05:58
hungrysamyeah05:59
hungrysamI tried it05:59
hungrysamthe problem is that I have machines of different ages and the older ones just choked on install06:00
sbalneavSorry, I'm not meaning to be obstreperous here, but trying to update individual programs is fiendishly difficult, and is going to probably result in a frankenstein configuration that's going to be a bear to maintain.  Would you be willing to try and see if I could help you to get the 7.04 going on the machines it hangs on?  That'll probably be easier. :)06:02
hungrysamum06:04
hungrysamyes06:04
hungrysamthat would be great06:04
sbalneavWhat kind of machines are the older ones?06:04
hungrysamthey aren't any specific brand06:05
hungrysamI am in Peru06:05
hungrysamthe computers are just generic builds... from a local shop I think06:05
sbalneavSure, but what do they have for video, processor, ram, etc.06:06
hungrysamnot sure06:06
sbalneavLooking at /proc/cpuinfo will tell you the cpu06:06
hungrysamI don't have access to them right now06:06
sbalneavthe "free" command will tell you the amount of memory06:06
sbalneavand doing an "lspci -v" will show you all the devices the machine thinks it has.06:07
sbalneavmaybe collect all that info together, and send it to me via email.06:07
sbalneavsbalneav@ltsp.org06:07
hungrysamok06:07
hungrysamthanks alot06:07
hungrysamI will get that as soon as I can06:08
sbalneavthen when you get some time, and have access to the machines, I can help you get them going06:08
sbalneavit may just be as simple as booting them with the "noacpi" option06:08
hungrysamsounds great!06:08
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moquistsbalneav: pongoty06:35
sbalneavhey06:37
moquistho06:37
sbalneavSo, moodle won't configure06:37
sbalneav:(06:37
moquistai ai ai06:38
sbalneavthe database doesn't seem to want to initialize.06:38
moquistwhich moodle? one of your own, or the Ubuntu package?06:38
sbalneavUbuntu06:38
moquistAI AI AI06:38
sbalneavI've dropped the database06:38
moquistwhich db - pg or mysql?06:38
sbalneavand done a dpkg-reconfigure moodle06:38
sbalneavpostgresql06:38
sbalneavShould I try mysql06:39
moquistyes06:39
sbalneavok06:39
moquistbut we still have to fix the problem....06:39
sbalneavI'll try that tonight then.06:39
moquistAre you just testing, or testing for release, or what?06:39
sbalneavis a drop database/d-r moodle the "standard" way to re-initialize?06:39
moquistsbalneav: I don't know...I've never seen that before. :)06:40
sbalneavok06:40
moquistsbalneav: I tried to find out while I was working on that package how to clear answers out of d-i, though, so I could refresh a system and re-try the install.06:40
sbalneavI'll try with mysql tonight.06:40
moquistIt was easy enough to whack the VM and un-tar a backup VM...06:41
moquistsbalneav: What kind of error were you getting, and at which point of the install?06:41
moquiste.g., was the postinst script echoing an error to the console, or was there are problem while you were walking through the moodle installation in your browser?06:41
sbalneavpostinst06:42
moquistand echoed into the console, right, not an ncurses message?06:43
sbalneavright06:44
moquistsbalneav: "You must create your PostgreSQL database manually." ?06:47
sbalneavyes06:47
moquistis there another error before that?06:48
moquisti.e., the above is sometimes a follow-up to a more specific message.06:48
sbalneavArgh sorry, workping06:49
moquistnp06:49
sbalneavbe back in a 1/2 hour06:49
sbalneavon tonight?06:49
moquistprolly06:49
moquist10 seconds...06:49
sbalneavI can step throuh it then too06:49
moquisthttp://rafb.net/p/ZRV9Ss19.html06:49
moquistone of those messages?06:49
moquistWell, it *is* Friday night. I might have a hot date.06:50
sbalneavno06:50
moquistI'm not sure; I'll have to check with my wife.06:50
sbalneavok06:50
moquistsbalneav: OK. thx.06:50
sbalneavwell I'll be on.06:50
moquistcheers06:50
sbalneavbrb06:50
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moquistogra: how goes it?06:55
ograwell ...06:58
ograso so06:58
ograsitting in cyprus being overly tired after a week of in max 2h of sleep per night06:59
moquistoh, man. You need some sleep.06:59
ograat least i'm returnong tomorrow night and will sleep the whole sunday06:59
moquistgood06:59
ograand currently i'm sweating my ass off (7pm, its dark and still over 30C)07:00
stgraberogra: it's still better than the <10C I got here :)07:01
ograwelll, i'll have that toorrow again (and had it yesterday until 9pm)07:02
joebakerFyi07:06
joebakeroops..  ignore that.07:06
joebaker  \H  \H  \H07:06
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stgraberogra: I don't know if Henrik pinged you about that but we are working on some testcase update for the tracker (will be in for RC testing), can you check that you are happy with the testcases shown here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TrackerUpdate07:46
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stgraberogra: I added a LTSP test to the server ISO07:46
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cberl1Hi folks.  Please help me restore my server to working condition!!  I am getting the message at boot:  Volume group "Ubuntu" not found07:55
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cberl1Helloo?  ANYONE???08:00
cberl1I really need to get this working NOW.  This was the point of using Edubuntu in the first place.08:00
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