[12:39] <ScorpKing> maybe i must try #ubuntu as well.
[12:41] <quixogre> ScorpKing: i.e. dd -if=/dev/sda999 -of=/hd.iso \ scp user@host /hd.iso /directory/hd<date>.iso
[12:41] <quixogre> ScorpKing: lol its two lines. if it takes up 1kb ya wrote it wrong
[12:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> large cluster size?
[12:42] <peter__> kann mir einer helfen?
[12:42] <quixogre> Daisuke_Laptop: huh?
[12:43] <ScorpKing> !de
[12:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:43] <quixogre> !de | peter__
[12:43] <ubotu> peter__: please see above
[12:43] <quixogre> dammit.
[12:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> quixogre: iunno, just throwing stuff out there
[12:43] <ScorpKing> quixogre: so how do i run 2 lines in one command?
[12:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> ScorpKing: &&
[12:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> first && second
[12:44] <uga> ScorpKing: or foo; bar
[12:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> that works well too
[12:44] <peter__> thx
[12:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> ./configure && make && sudo make install
[12:44] <uga> the difference being that && will run them simultaneously
[12:44] <quixogre> ScorpKing: hehe several ways. me personally, i'd write a shell script. just make two lines in a flat text file.
[12:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> simultaneously?
[12:44] <uga> Daisuke_Laptop: afaik && run them in parallel, so better use ; ?
[12:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's been the norm, and if it's the recommended way, i dunno if it does parallel
[12:45] <uga> if it does parallel, it can't be the norm
[12:45] <uga> maybe I'm confused... && will check for prev command stderring 0?
[12:45] <quixogre> then, once i had the shell script, i'd kick it off in cron.d make sure that the username is trusted between the two hosts, so no need to enter password
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> uga: that's what i found
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#multiple
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it errors out it won't continue
[12:46] <uga> thanks, I was looking for something like that
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> whereas ; will
[12:46] <sainzeo> quixogre: would you think that the problem with groupwise/kopete deals with the ssl certificate?
[12:46] <uga> yeah, so how was it to run them in parallel...
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm still learning :)
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> err...  & ?
[12:46] <uga> Daisuke_Laptop: I'm still forgetting ;)
[12:46] <uga> I knew all these before :P
[12:46] <sainzeo> quixogre: or would that prevent it from even connecting to the server if that was the case?
[12:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's for backgrounding a task...
[12:47] <uga> Daisuke_Laptop: that works for a single line forking
[12:47] <quixogre> sainz no clue the fact that you can join one, but not create one is perplexing.
[12:47] <uga> but not sure if it can do for multi commands in a single line
[12:47] <sainzeo> quixogre: yeah...hmm
[12:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i think you're right
[12:47] <intelikey> shell command seperators.     ; & || &&      a ; b   a runs then b runs   a & b   a starts and runs in the background and b runs   a || b   b runs only if a returns exit code -gt 0    a && b    bruns only is a returns exitcode -lt 1
[12:47] <uga> intelikey: cheers
[12:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> !search bashish
[12:48] <ubotu> Found:
[12:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> !info bashish
[12:49] <ubotu> Package bashish does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> :(
[12:49] <uga> #!/bin/bash
[12:49] <uga> you think it'll parse? =)
[12:49] <intelikey> uga and comands can be grouped   { a & b ; c || d ; } && { e && f || g ; }
[12:49] <uga> intelikey: nice, although I rarely do scripting, now
[12:50] <ScorpKing> for those who don't know. i need to backup my laptop hda1 so there won't be space to store the img before it get's copied to my server. will boot from live cd when doing that..
[12:50] <quixogre> okies all. time for me to go tutor vb programmers *shudders*
[12:50] <ScorpKing> quixogre: good luck
[12:50] <quixogre> its visual basic...i dotn need luck, i need better karma
[12:51] <uga> quixogre: vb6? or vb.net
[12:51] <quixogre> .net programming for dummies
[12:51] <uga> lol, okay
[12:51] <uga> at least it's more sane than vb6 ;)
[12:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> i miss VB 1
[12:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> not much, but kinda, some days, a little
[12:52] <quixogre> hehe laters
[12:54] <yintelike> or any such util  doesn't have to be tar,  and doesn't need to be from a live cd
[12:55] <yintelike> ooops reposting    cause i don't think it got through.     ScorpKing why not just use tar over ssh ?     \   tar -c /dev/hda1 | ssh root@addr tee file.tar >/dev/null
[12:56] <yintelike> could use cat or dd  for the input method   could also use dd for the output methood also.
[12:56] <yintelike> also
[12:56] <Alexander_> hi all
[12:57] <Alexander_>  i need some help here
[12:57] <Alexander_> any one
[12:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ask
[12:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> the lcars terminal is kinda neat
[12:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> geeky, but neat
[12:57] <_2> "all things geeky and troll"
[12:58] <Alexander_> i have dell inspiron 640m laptop ...and i try install kubuntu on it
[12:58] <_2> or was that ...great and small  ?
[12:58] <Alexander_> but there is error
[12:58] <flaccid> !ask
[12:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:58] <flaccid> what is the error..
[12:58] <Alexander_> i dont know
[12:59] <Alexander_> it is slow in start
[12:59] <Alexander_> and there is some error maseg
[12:59] <flaccid> that could be normal depending how slow it is and what you regard as slow
[12:59] <Alexander_> no i try it on desktop
[12:59] <Alexander_> its so slow
[01:00] <_2> and how ubuntu'ish your configs are.
[01:00] <Alexander_> the same thing in ubuntu
[01:00] <Alexander_> it ask me to change some files name
[01:00] <flaccid> what is slow? i guess we can't figure out why its slow without a clue
[01:01] <flaccid> what file and what exactly asked you?
[01:01] <Alexander_> it stop a litle minute and after that it ask me change names
[01:01] <Alexander_> video files
[01:02] <Alexander_> some of them have a long name
[01:02] <flaccid> but what is asking you, exactly, you dont know?
[01:02] <Alexander_> something like rename file ....
[01:04] <flaccid> well you can have invalid, too long filenames particularly with fat fs but yeah, im afraid with this info there is no way to work out the cause of your problem
[01:04] <Alexander_> most of linux distr give me problems with that laptop
[01:05] <Alexander_> but its work good on desktop
[01:05] <_2> Alexander_ maybe if english is not your native,  you can ask in a language specific channel ?      that "might" help.
[01:05] <Alexander_> i try that but no body there
[01:06] <_2> ok.
[01:06] <Alexander_> sorry about my bad english
[01:07] <Alexander_> i try linux kubuntu in virtual pc it work good
[01:07] <flaccid> ok then. i would checking top to see if cpu/memory is being chewed
[01:08] <Alexander_> thanks man
[01:09] <Alexander_> i have windows xp too in my laptop
[01:09] <Alexander_> its sucks
[01:11] <dsmith> question: user wrote to me to say that they can no longer delete files/folders. Seems somehow they have a permissions isue?
[01:11] <dsmith> seems that there is a bug flaoting around
[01:11] <_2> dsmith sounds like they issued    sudo konqueror   at some point
[01:12] <dsmith> hows that?
[01:12] <stdin> !kdesu
[01:12] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:12] <Alexander_> most of that files is 3gp
[01:12] <_2> dsmith yeah that bug is the "ubuntu policy on security"   i.e. root jr.
[01:12] <_2> dsmith at any rate.  the simple solution is to "own your home"
[01:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> _2: if you don't like it, don't use it, but it's extremely useful.
[01:13] <dsmith> ok, so what would be my course of action then be?
[01:13] <_2> dsmith i.e.     sudo chown `whoami` -R $HOME
[01:13] <dsmith> hmmm ok
[01:13] <dsmith> i'll try that tomorrow
[01:13] <dsmith> IM like wtf, how can that happen
[01:14] <dsmith> *sratch* the head
[01:14] <darlok> So will Kubuntu Gutsy have Compiz installed/enabled by default?   Basically, will the KDE edition of Gutsy be up to the same level as far as polish and features go for the Gnome release?
[01:14] <dsmith> fairly new install as well
[01:14] <Alexander_> can i install gnome in kubuntu ?
[01:14] <_2> ^> then remembers running sudo "gui app"  and smacks forehead with palm of hand....
[01:15] <emilsedgh> Alexander_: sure you can
[01:15] <_2> Alexander_ you have our permission to do so    yes.
[01:15] <Alexander_> how?
[01:15] <dsmith> lol
[01:15] <_2> Alexander_   sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:15] <ardchoille> darlok: I sure hope not.. if it's enabled by default, that's one of the first things I'll rip out. compiz/beryl is garbage.
[01:16] <_2> Alexander_   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    if you want the ubuntu defaults
[01:16] <Alexander_> thanks man
[01:16] <dsmith> Alexander_: if you like you could run a virtual image as well
[01:16] <darlok> ardchoille: Okay, well I know it is with Ubuntu.... wondering if Kubuntu is going to include a lot of new features?  Or basically just ride on the tail of Ubuntu as it seems to have been doing.
[01:16] <ardchoille> Alexander_: No, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <_2> i'm with ardchoille  on that darlok
[01:17] <darlok> ardchoille: I love KDE, but Ubuntu has always seemed more secure and innovative to me...
[01:17] <dsmith> I consider ubuntu (gnome) to be more a work type enviroment
[01:17] <ardchoille> darlok: Yeah, I love it too. But I hear that compiz will NOT be enabled by default :)
[01:17] <quixogre> darlok: innovative? gnome? hehe gnomes simplistic
[01:17] <_2> i'm not with ardchoille on insisting that others install ubuntu specific meta packages
[01:17] <ardchoille> _2: :)
[01:18] <darlok> quixogre: I didn't say gnome... I said Ubuntu.
[01:18] <darlok> quixogre: For example... the new printer system, the new X config gui, etc...
[01:18] <quixogre> ubuntu is basically just a debian offshoot. without gnome or kde, its commandline. yer comparing apples and oranges
[01:18] <abraham> hello, hola
[01:19] <darlok> ....Kubuntu never seems to get new features such as those.
[01:19] <newsense07> anyone know of a small easy to configure http proxy server ?
[01:19] <quixogre> kubuntu is nothing more than ubuntu with kde packaged
[01:19] <_2> quixogre ????   "without gnome or kde, its commandline."   what do you mean ?
[01:19] <darlok> quixogre: Okay, I didn't realize this was going to turn into an argument of symantics and definitions....
[01:20] <darlok> quixogre: You're more elite than I am.  Congrats.  Now, does anyone have any kind of serious answer for me at all? lol
[01:21] <_2> darlok i though you got your answer,  three times.   no it won't be default in the next release.      or did you ask something else ?
[01:21] <quixogre> darlok:  sorry, i came in in the middle of the conversation wasnt trying to berate or belittle you
[01:22] <darlok> _2: Oh, no... compiz was just one example.  I also asked about added features in Kubuntu.  For some reason Kubuntu seems to lag far behind Ubuntu in terms of innovation with each release.
[01:22] <CPrompt^> i know this has been covered a million times, but can someone help me mount windows hard drive?
[01:22] <CPrompt^> i can post my fstab if needed...probably do :)
[01:23] <quixogre> CPrompt^: mount  /dev/sda(number of windows partition) /mnt/sda#
[01:23] <_2> darlok yes kubuntu does lag about one release.    have you compaired the two channels ?    #kubuntu  360 users    #ubuntu 947 users     thus i'd say it gnome has more support form our disrto....
[01:24] <darlok> _2: Yeah, I know that... was just curious.  Is there any place on the web that lists the added features of Kubuntu?
[01:24] <darlok> ...for Gutsy, I mean.
[01:24] <quixogre> !gutsy
[01:24] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <_2> thus you can expect the developement to focus where the people are.
[01:25] <_2> darlok i think the   ubuntu.com site has a page
[01:25] <nine01a> Sucks because I just switched to KDE from Gnome and I like it a lot better =(
[01:25] <stdin> #ubuntu actually has 1080 users...
[01:25] <CPrompt^> quixogre : "You do not have enough permissions to read"
[01:25] <_2> stdin give it a minute and it will change  :)
[01:25] <darlok> _2: But the Ubuntu page lists features for Ubuntu... not Kubuntu.  And they rarely have the same added features.
[01:25] <stdin> _2: already has 1082 :p
[01:26] <quixogre> CPrompt^: sorry, try adding sudo to the beginning of the command
[01:26] <_2> darlok i still think that there is a page.   stdin can probably tell you where.
[01:26] <CPrompt^> quixogre : i did that anyway.
[01:26] <CPrompt^> quixogre : it mounted to the directory but i can't access it
[01:26] <CPrompt^> it gives me that error
[01:26] <quixogre> still saying not enough permissions?
[01:26] <stdin> CPrompt^: the generall fstab line is  "/dev/sda1  /media/windows  ntfs  defaults,umask=0000 0 0"
[01:27] <quixogre> try cd /mnt/sda#
[01:27] <avt3kk> hello?
[01:27] <_2> yuch   read write for all with the standard ntfs driver  !
[01:27] <_2> !ntfs-3g
[01:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:28] <avt3kk> sorry im late guys we got caught in a jam
[01:28] <quixogre> !hi | avt3kk
[01:28] <ubotu> avt3kk: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:28] <newsense07> anyone know of a small easy to configure http proxy server ?
[01:28] <stdin> darlok: the reason the ubuntu page lists ubuntu features it because it's the ubuntu page,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu has some info on Kubuntu for Gutsy
[01:28] <avt3kk> anyways im ready to install ubuntu ultimate that when I rstart goes to kubuntu and doesnt start lol :)
[01:28] <avt3kk> hi
[01:29] <avt3kk> so im going to just use the whole hd ok?
[01:29] <avt3kk> hard drive
[01:29] <quixogre> avt3kk: you dont want to dual boot?
[01:30] <stdin> avt3kk: "ubuntu ultimate"?
[01:30] <avt3kk> I can bring back my drive clone it has a dualboot already setup then just fixboot fixmbr from 2000 pro repair console
[01:30] <avt3kk> and delete ubuntu
[01:30] <darlok> stdin: That's what I was looking for... thank you.
[01:30] <quixogre> avt3kk: kubuntu comes with grub, which will allow you to boot multiple OSes
[01:31] <avt3kk> ubuntu ultimate has it all but it automaticly updates and all that good stuff it reboots to kubuntu
[01:31] <avt3kk> ubuntu ultimate I want to figure out how to get to work
[01:31] <avt3kk> someone yesterday said
[01:31] <quixogre> i've never heard of ubuntu ultimate....
[01:31] <avt3kk> I have notepad saved
[01:32] <avt3kk> I will pastebin :)
[01:32] <avt3kk> brb
[01:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm curious
[01:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> is MS rebranding vista?
[01:32] <avt3kk> screenshots its a huge page man soo
[01:32] <avt3kk> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/screenshots.html
[01:33] <avt3kk> ima pastebin
[01:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> This is basically Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and others combinded, along with additional software integraded
[01:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> 1) i don't trust it because they can't spell, and 2) there's nothing there you can't get from the repos
[01:35] <stdin> this "Ultimate" edition is not official and possibly illegal to download/use in some places
[01:36] <stdin> and If you have issues with stock K/Uubuntu, this will almost certainly not fix it
[01:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> stdin: that's a given, since it probably includes all of the non-free codecs by default
[01:36] <stdin> s/Uubuntu/Ubuntu/
[01:36] <PSPJunkie> Hey, has anyone been able to get wifi working with kubuntu on a mac?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i do NOT like their installation methods :\
[01:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo apt-get install -y --allow-unauthenticated scourge
[01:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> perhaps a new factoid is in order...
[01:38] <quixogre> !wifi | PSPJunkie
[01:38] <ubotu> PSPJunkie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:39] <avt3kk> Heres the pastebin of my problem of restarting ubuntu ultimate and it trying to start kubuntu and its not starting x11:     http://www.pastebin.org/3589
[01:39] <PSPJunkie> Thanks qiuxogre
[01:39] <NickPresta> Before I forget, how would I diagnose a Suspend/Hibernate problem in Feisty?
[01:39] <NickPresta> !hibernate
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <NickPresta> !suspend
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <avt3kk> I typed that out because printing in UU is so easy from the live dvd
[01:40] <newsense07> !squid
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <quixogre> avt3kk: hate to break it to ya bro, but ultimate is nothing more than preconfigured kubuntu...THATS why its booting kubuntu
[01:40] <avt3kk> well man I want to get it working please
[01:40] <avt3kk> I like UU man lol
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> don't use it.  it's pretty simple.  that's not going to help your problems, and there's nothing special about it.
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> it isn't supported here
[01:41] <avt3kk> what???? :O
[01:41] <avt3kk> damt
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's not an official ubuntu release
[01:41] <avt3kk> not in ubuntu either
[01:41] <avt3kk> son of a ..
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> you mean you've already asked this in #ubuntu?
[01:41] <avt3kk> yeees
[01:41] <wers> I want to have a nice, clean install of gutsy when it is released.. If I install Gutsy Beta now and just upgrade and upgrade it until the final gutsy is out, will that gutsy be a clean install?
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...
[01:42] <avt3kk> I need help from someone aaaaaaa
[01:42] <avt3kk> send me somewere pls
[01:42] <wers> ot would it still be better if I reformat with a final gutsy cd?
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu.com
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> go download an official iso
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> then install what you need
[01:42] <avt3kk> what happened to those helpful guys lastnight
[01:42] <avt3kk> brb.-=\
[01:43] <excitatory> avt3kk: beta testing :D
[01:43] <avt3kk> ultimate is beta???
[01:43] <avt3kk> well it sets up the printer
[01:44] <avt3kk> everything installs itself practicly
[01:44] <avt3kk> its so easy
[01:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> ultimate is nothing, non-official, not recognized by the ubuntu team
[01:44] <avt3kk> just a few clicks
[01:44] <quixogre> avt if its so easy, why are you here?
[01:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> probably includes automatix, too
[01:44] <avt3kk> because my video card is radeon saphire x800 lol
[01:44] <quixogre> automatix AND automatix bleeder
[01:44] <avt3kk> and UU wont bootup
[01:45] <avt3kk> it basicly trys to start kubuntu<<<
[01:45] <newsense07> avt3kk: who cares ?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah jesus
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ubuntu ultimate
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu ultimate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> avt3kk: so install an official version
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> as i've said already
[01:45] <newsense07> avt3kk: why dont ya ask in *ubuntu-ultimate
[01:46] <quixogre> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/
[01:46] <newsense07> im sure their users are as great as their wonderful distro
[01:46] <quixogre> list of all the apps it comes with...
[01:46] <avt3kk> cant find it
[01:47] <avt3kk> ty
[01:47] <avt3kk>  :D
[01:47] <ScorpKing> i have an idea for my backup problem.
[01:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> they shouldn't even be using the ubuntu name for something that poorly put together
[01:48] <avt3kk> Newsense07 thankyou so much :D
[01:48] <quixogre> scorp does it involve duct tape?
[01:48] <ScorpKing> if i sudo chmod o+r /dev/hda1 will i be able to dd to nfs as a normal user?
[01:48] <ScorpKing> quixogre: it might. :D
[01:48] <BluesKaj> avt3kk,
[01:48] <BluesKaj> The latest fglrx driver supports Radeon 9500 and the X-series cards up to X1900.
[01:48] <BluesKaj> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[01:48] <BluesKaj> oops
[01:48] <ardchoille> The handyman's secret weapon
[01:48] <avt3kk> blue thats for me?
[01:49] <avt3kk> at the shop I have ducttape
[01:49] <avt3kk> I use it for everything
[01:49] <BluesKaj> yes avt3kk , ATI new experimental driver 8.41.7 , http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html
[01:49] <avt3kk>  ;)
[01:50] <ScorpKing> uga: did you give me the link to enable root write for nfs?
[01:51] <quixogre> ScorpKing: yup. was him
[01:51] <BluesKaj> avt3kk,but one thing , don't choose your card choose the Radeon HD 2900 , it will work on your x800
[01:51] <avt3kk> ook ty
[01:51] <ScorpKing> quixogre: do you think my plan will work?
[01:52] <quixogre> lol i take it the scp idea didnt work?
[01:52] <ScorpKing> nope
[01:52] <avt3kk> whats csp?
[01:52] <ScorpKing> or psc for that matter. lol
[01:52] <ardchoille> scp = secure copy
[01:53] <avt3kk> o
[01:53] <ScorpKing> avt3kk: it's ssh copy
[01:53] <avt3kk> im kind of new so whats ssh
[01:53] <ardchoille> !info ssh
[01:53] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[01:53] <avt3kk> ook ic now
[01:53] <galathal1on> where do i find wastebin?
[01:54] <ardchoille> galathal1on: You man !pastebin ?
[01:54] <ardchoille> s/man/mean/
[01:54] <galathal1on> no i mean like trashcan
[01:54] <ardchoille> trash:/
[01:54] <ardchoille> In konqueror ^^
[01:55] <avt3kk> what does .run open with?
[01:55] <avt3kk> wine
[01:55] <stdin> avt3kk: .run is a shell script with an embedded tar file
[01:55] <quixogre> Scor. you have to run dd as root right?pKing: so let me get this straight
[01:55] <galathal1on> ardchoille: cant find it
[01:55] <avt3kk> ya what do I do with it
[01:55] <quixogre> ScorpKing: so let me get this straight.  you have to run dd as root right?
[01:56] <ardchoille> galathal1on: Open konqueror and type this in the location bar:  trash:/
[01:56] <stdin> avt3kk: run it like a shell script "sh filename.run"
[01:56] <ScorpKing> quixogre: yes
[01:56] <avt3kk> ook
[01:56] <galathal1on> ardchoille: thnx :>
[01:56] <ardchoille> :)
[01:56] <ScorpKing> quixogre: the problem is that root can't copy to a nfs mount.
[01:57] <quixogre> but root cant access the nfs drive to read/write right?
[01:57] <ScorpKing> true
[01:57] <quixogre> sorry, slow typer
[01:57] <ScorpKing> lol
[01:57] <ScorpKing> quixogre: install ktouch
[01:57] <ardchoille> galathal1on: Also:   ~/.local/share/Trash
[01:58] <quixogre> okay. how do you plan on kicking off the backup? crontab?
[01:58] <ScorpKing> no
[01:58] <Flare> Everyone:> can't get help here join #shstech
[01:59] <pauloidef> Quando converto o arquivo avi para o formato DVD o som fico com um ruido muito alto, alguem sabe me dizer o que eh
[01:59] <stdin> !br
[01:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:59] <quixogre> !ES
[01:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:59] <ScorpKing> quixogre: i want to boot from a cd and mount the nfs drive. then dd hda1 to it.
[02:00] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: You only have 1 drive bay in that lappy?
[02:00] <ScorpKing> yes
[02:01] <ScorpKing> this 40gig has been smiling at me all day. :)
[02:01] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: Remind me to never buy that model
[02:01] <ScorpKing> lol.
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> what model?
[02:01] <whiskeytango> Im a rocket scientist, in the process of creating a dual boot with windows vista i formatted over windows vista.
[02:01] <quixogre> dd hda1 to the cd? is the cd big enough?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> whiskeytango: you'll thank yourself.
[02:02] <ScorpKing> quixogre: dvd rom. no writer.
[02:02] <quixogre> whiskeytango: good riddance to bad rubbish now just install kubuntu, and life will be grand
[02:02] <ardchoille> whiskeytango: Congrats, you just made your system better :)
[02:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> i won't even limit him to kubuntu
[02:03] <whiskeytango> How do i tell what version of ubuntu i have?  :P
[02:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu and xubuntu work as well
[02:03] <avt3kk> do I install the default options from after just saying yes to start the install process for ATI driver (radeon saphire x800 gto)
[02:03] <avt3kk> sh ati-driver-installer-8.41.7-x86.x86_64.run
[02:03] <whiskeytango> I am using the one off their website.
[02:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> lsb_release -a
[02:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> well you can't install it while x is running
[02:03] <avt3kk> should I click default will I be able to choose hd 2900 later on or what?
[02:03] <ardchoille> avt3kk: The ati drivers are in the repos
[02:04] <whiskeytango> Ubuntu 7.04, that was easy enough
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: apparently the bleeding edge drivers are required in this instance
[02:04] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Ah, ok
[02:04] <avt3kk> this is a live dvd
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> you wait huh what?
[02:04] <ardchoille> avt3kk: You realise that all that work will be gone when you reboot, right?
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> are you still using ubuntu ultimate?
[02:05] <avt3kk> sht
[02:05] <avt3kk> UU lol
[02:05] <avt3kk>  :/
[02:05] <avt3kk> trying to find a way man
[02:05] <ScorpKing> quixogre: i think i'll just chmod /dev/hda1 so normal users can read it and then see what happens.
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> no help, sorry.  you're going to cause more problems than you solve with that pos
[02:05] <avt3kk> so I should put my old dualboot back?
[02:06] <quixogre> scorp hehe if it works...
[02:06] <avt3kk> then download kubuntu in xp and burn the cd is there a dvd version of kubuntu??
[02:06] <avt3kk> kubuntu dvd
[02:06] <avt3kk> that has alot of stuff
[02:06] <ScorpKing> quixogre: i'll ask it nicely :D
[02:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> that would be a better solution than using an unofficial version of a good distro that requires you to use -y and --allow_unauthenticated as apt-get arguments :\
[02:06] <ardchoille> avt3kk: There is a dvd version but the repos have the same stuff and a cd doesn't take as long to download
[02:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> just get the cd, and install what you need afterward...
[02:07] <BluesKaj> avt3kk, are you going to install kubuntu , then ?
[02:07] <avt3kk> ya
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> you'll find we get a lot nicer then :)
[02:07] <avt3kk> everyone says UU is a piece of cr@p
[02:07] <BluesKaj> avt3kk, cool
[02:08] <avt3kk> so in kubuntu setting up the printer if it has an ip is realy easy?
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh god yes
[02:08] <avt3kk> how about flash java
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> it uses the same tools
[02:08] <ardchoille> avt3kk: I've seen many people have probs with UU, I've never used it.. I've always just stuck with official kubuntu and never had probs
[02:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> just an apt-get away :)
[02:08] <whiskeytango> Hey, i just remembered what i loved about my putty emulator iat my old job, command prompts are fast as..well..command prompts.
[02:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> putty is the one app i LIKE using in windows (but i just use it to ssh into my home box :D)
[02:09] <avt3kk> well I got to put my drive clone back first
[02:09] <avt3kk> acronis drive image
[02:09] <avt3kk> only thing I trust that junk to do is drive imaging lol
[02:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was a good idea
[02:09] <avt3kk> drive cloning
[02:10] <avt3kk> making a partition image with that its always corrupt
[02:10] <whiskeytango> We had a default IBM emulator, but it was terrible so about three weeks after someone was hired they would ask how to get putty since all the other people used it
[02:10] <avt3kk> ty Daisuke :D
[02:10] <ardchoille> avt3kk: Get yourself a copy of http:sysresccd.org , it has partimage on it and that does drive cloning quite well.
[02:11] <avt3kk> think i have that in my cd case
[02:11] <BluesKaj> avt3kk, if you still intend to keep a windows partition , defrag before making and formatting the ext3
[02:12] <avt3kk> I defraged xp pro before installing ubuntu
[02:12] <BluesKaj> good
[02:12] <avt3kk> I also used (drive image 2002) to image both xp and ubuntu lololol
[02:12] <avt3kk> then you got to fix inode error
[02:12] <avt3kk> after restoring the ubuntu image
[02:13] <avt3kk> at least from (drive image 2002)
[02:13] <whiskeytango> ok, well i have to reboot..
[02:13] <avt3kk> its all graphical and realy easy
[02:13] <avt3kk> I made a mini tut ubuntu uploaded in howto
[02:13] <avt3kk> dont laugh at me just yet lol
[02:13] <avt3kk> it sux I show ya
[02:16] <avt3kk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536491
[02:16] <avt3kk>  :/ you can laugh now
[02:16] <avt3kk> ok im going to hookup my other harddrive and boot acronis guys ok?
[02:17] <avt3kk> guys
[02:17] <quixogre> what is automatix?
[02:17] <avt3kk> I dunno
[02:18] <avt3kk> were does it say that?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Your brain will thank you if you don't find the answer to that question
[02:18] <quixogre> someone in school recommended it to me...want to find out why before i bother researching it further
[02:18] <Murchadh> !automatix
[02:18] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> quixogre- probably because they hate you
[02:19] <quixogre> Dragnslcr: lol
[02:19] <avt3kk> automatix will break your system hahaha
[02:19] <avt3kk> Quix good thing you asked in here
[02:20] <quixogre> meh brokngs to futz withen systems are fun. if everything worked, i'd run out of thi
[02:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> love that touchpad
[02:20] <avt3kk> welp see you guys later
[02:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> avt3kk: good luck, and hopefully you'll make it back here
[02:20] <quixogre> meh brok systems are fun. if everything worked, i'd run out of things to futz with
[02:20] <avt3kk> im putting my old dualboot back then downloading kubuntu
[02:21] <avt3kk> of course Daisuke_Laptop lol :P
[02:21] <quixogre> fscking touchpad.....
[02:22] <quixogre> bbl. going into bios, and disabling that damn touchpad
[02:28] <rootMoon> hi guys i am On pcLinux OS and  wanna switch to Kubuntu can u help me with aprtitions plz??
[02:29] <rootMoon> hallo!
[02:30] <quixogre> crap. didnt work.
[02:30] <ardchoille> !partition | rootMoon
[02:30] <ubotu> rootMoon: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:30] <Tautoa> Hi
[02:30] <Tautoa> What do you need help with, specifically?
[02:31] <rootMoon> http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fo6.png
[02:32] <rootMoon> here is the print screen of MY gparted Window .... and i Only need 10gb for Windows backup and thats it
[02:32] <rootMoon> http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1fo6.png
[02:33] <Tautoa> ok, how can we help? :)
[02:33] <rootMoon> how do i delete everything but the ntfs and install Kubuntu on the rest?
[02:35] <Tautoa> You should be able to right-click the partitions from gparted and select 'remove partition' ?
[02:35] <Tautoa> Although you would probably have to unmount it first.
[02:35] <Tautoa> Do you have a Live CD?
[02:35] <rootMoon> yeah
[02:35] <rootMoon> I have Kubuntu and i have PClinuxOS
[02:36] <rootMoon> U mean i have to delete them from Kubuntu live cd right?
[02:37] <ardchoille> rootMoon: You can't manipulate partitions while they're mounted
[02:37] <rootMoon> i dunno
[02:37] <Tautoa> So, to delete the / partition, rootMoon would need to use a Live CD?
[02:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> people are the same way...
[02:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> correct
[02:38] <ardchoille> Tautoa: Yes
[02:38] <rootMoon> I have to USE gparted and mannually delete them right?
[02:39] <ardchoille> rootMoon: Yes, but they must be unmounted first
[02:39] <ardchoille> You can't delete a partition that you are currently in
[02:39] <Tautoa> So, boot to the Kubuntu Live CD, use gparted on the disc to remove all the unwanted partitions (making sure you have a copy of everything you want to keep), make some new partitions, and install Kubuntu
[02:39] <BluesKaj> there is a gparted live cd which is very easy to use
[02:39] <BluesKaj> brb
[02:40] <winbond> check it out, when i execute a start script for firefox from the terminal ./firefox it starts quickly and its ready to go, but when i start it from a shortcut on the desktop, it starts but there is a busy icon bouncing for another 30 seconds, whats the problem?
[02:40] <rootMoon> How do i make new paritions and what size they should be for 74gb hard drive where 10gb is used for windows backup?
[02:42] <Tautoa> You can click on the unallocated space and select 'make partition'
[02:42] <Tautoa> Sizes vary according to your preference, as do partitions, but the swap should be about 1.5 times the amount of RAM, 10-15GB should be comfortable for / (although I've used smaller before), and the rest for /home?
[02:44] <rootMoon> whic h leaves me aboyt with 34gb for home?
[02:46] <rootMoon> ???????
[02:47] <truth> I'm looking for something to convert .avi to mpeg (or some format for dvd) - any recommendations?
[02:47] <ardchoille> rootMoon: Wow, and my $HOME is about 18.2Mb
[02:47] <Tautoa> Depends how much RAM you have, but I think it would leave you with about 45GB?
[02:47] <rootMoon> I have 1gig and i make 2 gig swap
[02:48] <BluesKaj> truth , tovid has both gui and cli versions
[02:48] <slackern> rootMoon: yes
[02:49] <BluesKaj> there's a #tovid support chat as well, right here on freenode
[02:49] <Tautoa> 74Gb drive, with 10GB for backup, 15GB for /, 2GB for swap... leaves 47GB
[02:52] <truth> thanks
[02:53] <rickey> what is the best program to watch dvd movies on the computer with?
[02:53] <rootMoon> VLC
[02:53] <rootMoon> rickey:  VLC
[02:53] <quixogre> !vlc
[02:53] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:54] <rickey> ubotu i have many of those players ,but the dvd wont play
[02:54] <Jucato> !best
[02:54] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:55] <quixogre> does divx work on linux?
[02:56] <phoenixz> Hi there, I have a dell latitude d620 laptop and I just followed the ubuntu guide to get wireless to work with ndis wrapper.. So far, so good. Im usinmg knetwork manager to manage wifi, but I cant connect to encrypted networks :( I give in the key and after a few seconds, it just asks me again for the key.. Anybody knows a fix?
[02:56] <quixogre> phoenixz: using broadcom wireless card?
[02:57] <rootMoon> How do i use gparted ON Kubuntu live cd to make 15gb for / 2gb for swap and 47 for /home ??
[02:57] <phoenixz> quixogre, err, think so, let me check
[02:57] <Jucato> rootMoon: there's QtParted on the Live CD
[02:57] <Pitabred> DivX definitely works on Linux
[02:57] <quixogre> Pitabred: thnks
[02:58] <phoenixz> quixogre, yes, Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390
[02:58] <Pitabred> brb
[02:59] <phoenixz> quixogre, that is good? or bad?
[03:02] <quixogre> phoenixz: neither. just a bit of a pain. are you using WPA for security?
[03:02] <brainwrck> hi
[03:02] <quixogre> !hi | brainwrck
[03:02] <ubotu> brainwrck: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:03] <brainwrck> I installed kubuntu to a person and that person is complaing that shitty f00.exe games don't run on linux and wants to change back to m$hit
[03:03] <brainwrck> what can I do?
[03:04] <stdin> wine ?
[03:04] <stdin> !wine
[03:04] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:04] <phoenixz> quixogre, good question.. I got a large ASCAII key.. and now that I try to modprobe ndis wraper again, its not comming up either.. :( let me first fix that..
[03:04] <quixogre> brainwrck: install windows for em. wine doesnt support directX well enough for most high end games
[03:05] <quixogre> honestly, i keep xp on this pc exlusively for games
[03:05] <brainwrck> stdin: by the way these aren't the kewl games for PC but whack free games, prolly spyware/virii/trojan/keylogger ridden type
[03:06] <brainwrck> those that advertise FREE GAME DONWLOAD
[03:06] <quixogre> brain, if they're java based games, they SHOULD work in firefox
[03:06] <brainwrck> mm...
[03:06] <quixogre> otherwise, wine will work
[03:06] <quixogre> but gotta set em up right
[03:06] <stdin> brainwrck: some should still work in wine, or you can just install VMWare/VirtualBox and install windows in that for the games
[03:07] <ardchoille> I just typed "about:plugins" into konqueror's location bar and noticed that my konq web browser can handle window media. Where is it getting the codec/plugin for that? I don't have firefox installed
[03:07] <stdin> brainwrck: and do what I do, say "You want windows? then install it yourself"
[03:07] <brainwrck> may I should let the person go back to m$$ and get it wreck on her own in a heartbeat
[03:07] <rootMoon> IS Linux MINT with codecs INStalled legal  IN USA ??????????
[03:07] <stdin> rootMoon: nope
[03:08] <rootMoon> stdin:  it is illigal ?
[03:08] <brainwrck> I mean somepople bring some computers LITERALLY bent outta shape... then they complain about linux
[03:08] <brainwrck> o_O
[03:08] <brainwrck> I #$%$^ing don't get it
[03:08] <quixogre> lol brain gotta have their freecell, huh?
[03:08] <brainwrck> I am beggining that linux shouldnt become popular
[03:08] <zeroziat> quixogre: Hmm, I am the Wireless problem guy, I don't know where to start with that.
[03:08] <stdin> rootMoon: yep, some of the codecs are illegal in the USA due to patient issues
[03:09] <rootMoon> stdin:  so ppl wh o use it all go to jail and get heavy fines??
[03:09] <stdin> rootMoon: it's possible, yes
[03:09] <quixogre> zero encrypted wireless networks either use wep or wpa. wpa tends to be more windows specific
[03:09] <ardchoille> rootMoon: There aren't enough jails to hold everyone who uses it
[03:09] <stdin> rootMoon: tho they'd have to catch you first
[03:09] <quixogre> zeroziat:  encrypted wireless networks either use wep or wpa. wpa tends to be more windows specific
[03:10] <rootMoon> stdin:  so why won't  they jsut pay 50$ for windows xp home and use it??
[03:10] <rootMoon> 50-$ is not much
[03:10] <quixogre> zeroziat: if yer using wpa, you can still connect, but gotta juggle some stuff a bit
[03:10] <ardchoille> rootMoon: Because Windows is unstable, insecure and, to be honest, garbage
[03:10] <stdin> rootMoon: MS was sewed for including mp3 codes by default, so that doesn't solve it
[03:10] <zeroziat> quixogre: I don't use encryption for my wireless connection.
[03:10] <downandout> hello all
[03:11] <rootMoon> ardchoille:  but u can play games on Windows betetr
[03:11] <brainwrck> quixogre: where did you get that WPA is m$ specific? By the way WEP no longer qulifies as "secure" LOL
[03:11] <downandout> I'm woundering, what filter combo's do you guys suggest for koffice, I'm currently using spambayes and its detection rate is low less then 50%
[03:11] <downandout> I've been using it for sometime now two months or so and i do constant retraining but its still low.
[03:11] <stdin> rootMoon: this channel isn't for discussing the pros and cons of MS Windows
[03:11] <downandout> sorry kontact :)
[03:11] <quixogre> brainwrck: not windows specific, but WPA requires a domain name, like a windows server run network
[03:12] <Hirvinen> zeroziat, quixogre: WEP is a bad joke. Use WPA(-PSK)2.
[03:12] <brainwrck> quixogre: w00t, ridiculous
[03:12] <ardchoille> stdin: Is it illegal to use a codec that handles wmv files?
[03:12] <Hirvinen> And there is nothing MS-specific about WPA.
[03:12] <quixogre> hirvinen, i personally use an unencrypted wireless network at home. but at school use WPA
[03:12] <brainwrck> LMAO@wep bad joke
[03:13] <stdin> ardchoille: unless you have a Windows licence (like the one stuck to most PCs) then it is
[03:13] <zeroziat> quixogre: Mine haves no encryption. =/ So I guess 'll save up less trouble?
[03:13] <ardchoille> stdin: kmplayer-konq-plugins is in main and I think shipped with kubuntu and it handles wmv files as well as a lot of other types
[03:13] <brainwrck> 1:11 < stdin> rootMoon: this channel isn't for discussing the pros and cons of MS Windows
[03:14] <brainwrck> stdin: as far as I know there aren't PROS for m$$
[03:14] <stdin> ardchoille: with the package with the codecs installed
[03:14] <quixogre> zeroziat: yep. just make sure not to send any usernames or passwords across it that arent secure before they leave the pc
[03:14] <stdin> ardchoille: it is just a frontend to mplayer, so it doesn't do the decoding
[03:14] <stdin> ardchoille: and mplayer is in multiverse
[03:14] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, ok
[03:15] <Tautoa> downandout: I just made my own filter... if I get spam, the sender goes on the list, so they can't send me more.
[03:15] <Tautoa> Wouldn't work if you get a lot, but my email is all through Gmail anyways, so that gets most of it :)
[03:15] <zeroziat> quixogre: Alright, so, where do I start, to: Make Kubuntu detect my card, and thus connect to my wireless network?
[03:15] <downandout> does gmail have a good filter?\
[03:16] <quixogre> brainwrck: in order to connect to my wpa2 network at school, i have to include @domainname to the username when im connecting
[03:16] <brainwrck> mm... how do I use tftp?
[03:16] <quixogre> zeroziat: what kind of wireless card?
[03:16] <Tautoa> downandout: as far as I know, yes. The fact that I've only had to manually add 4 senders to the list speaks for itself :)
[03:16] <zeroziat> quixogre: Hodl on, lemme run my Device Manager...
[03:16] <Hirvinen> quixogre, zeroziat: WPA(2) requires an authentication server, but I believe most access points can act as one. WPA-PSK(2) doesn't need one.
[03:16] <phoenixz> quixogre, it might help to move the hw switch for your wifi... :) its on!
[03:17] <brainwrck> how do I spefify tftp to use eth0 instead of eth1?
[03:17] <brainwrck> the connection is on eth0 ATM
[03:17] <phoenixz> quixogre, Ok, I try to connect to the wifi access point, and knetworkmanager is asking for a WEP passphrase, and I have a long line of ascii chars as the passphrase..
[03:17] <phoenixz> quixogre, so how can I make this work?
[03:17] <brainwrck> mm... I am gettin an uneasy feeling as I type this over open wifi connection
[03:18] <quixogre> lol im using a bcm44xx wireless card. cant even get ubuntu to recognize it, much less connect with it through linux, so might not be the best source
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> brainwrck: :)
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> quixogre: did you follow the official broadcom tutorial?
[03:19] <quixogre> phoenix, speak to the person who set up the network/go to the router/wifi point and create the passphrase
[03:19] <quixogre> nosrednaekim: yup. freezes up on the NDISwrapper install
[03:19] <brainwrck> quixogre: give up, that's what I did with the save driver :-(
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> quixogre: hmm...od..
[03:20] <phoenixz> so then who can help me with getting my dell latitude d620 broadcom wifi to work with WEP?
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> yeah... broadcoms are a pain... which is why I research my wifi cards ;)
[03:20] <quixogre> nosred, yeah. as of right now, i have to hardwire to get connected.
[03:21] <quixogre> phoenixz: is this a home or work wifi network?
[03:21] <brainwrck> mm.. how can I specify for tftp    to use a specific eht?
[03:21] <brainwrck> quixogre: as I said, give up now before you consume yourself in frustration
[03:22] <ardchoille> lol
[03:22] <brainwrck> quixogre:  I gave up on latitude as well
[03:22] <ardchoille> brainwrck: So, quite while he's behind? lol
[03:22] <zeroziat> quixogre: Win XP tells me it is "Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card", manufactured by Broadcom.
[03:23] <brainwrck> quixogre: you can Zydas wireless USB for $24
[03:23] <phoenixz> quixogre, work..
[03:23] <brainwrck> works like a charm
[03:23] <quixogre> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=dell+latitude+d620
[03:24] <zeroziat> quixogre: But the actual box says it's a Belkin 802.11g.
[03:24] <zeroziat> And something more
[03:24] <zeroziat> Freenode.
[03:25] <brainwrck> we just need a wifi company to do like ATI, release their code!!!
[03:25] <zeroziat> lol j/k
[03:25] <brainwrck> w00t we under ATTACK
[03:25] <zeroziat> Belkin 54g Wireless Desktop Network Card
[03:25] <zeroziat> I have actually that.
[03:25] <quixogre> phoenixz: if its a work network, you'll need the passphrase from the sysadmin
[03:25] <brainwrck> * we are
[03:25] <Pitabred> brainwrck: Atheros and Intel chips tend to work pretty well
[03:25] <quixogre> zero, sounds like a broadcom....
[03:25] <zeroziat> It IS a Broadcom.
[03:25] <Pitabred> Broadcom just stinks in general
[03:25] <brainwrck> phoenixz: if it's PCI you can get awsome stuff!!
[03:26] <zeroziat> Although this time I used Ubuntu I got it to run with ndiswrapper or something else.
[03:26] <brainwrck> I meant mini-PCI for laptos
[03:26] <quixogre> zeroziat: sec, lemme find the broadcom wireless link. it MIGHT work for you
[03:26] <brainwrck> mini-PCI are ridiculously cheap
[03:28] <quixogre> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481651&highlight=dell+latitude+120l+wireless for the dell latitude 620 user
[03:28] <phoenixz> brainwrck, what do you mean?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> brainwrck: yeah... I saw a nice RaLink one..
[03:28] <phoenixz> The simple problem is: I want to connect to the WEP protected access point from my work..
[03:28] <phoenixz> I have a key
[03:28] <phoenixz> but when I enter it.. I see it trying to configure, and nothing happens
[03:28] <brainwrck> let me put like this... you MIGHT fix it now but it'll be temporairly until the next kernel update or whatever is not compatible
[03:29] <brainwrck> then you'll be back here "how can I get broadcome to run?"
[03:29] <phoenixz> quixogre, that link is for 120 :) in any case, it says how to set up wireless.. wireless is working okay already, I just can not enter with WEP
[03:30] <brainwrck> phoenixz: if you have a laptop with mini-PCI you can BUY that piece. Since that's mostly self-installation they are the cheapest even more than USB
[03:30] <rootMoon> Gnome Runs faster and more stable then Kubuntu ??????????????
[03:30] <rootMoon> plz tell me???
[03:30] <brainwrck> flamewars
[03:30] <brainwrck> flaimbait
[03:30] <brainwrck> troll?
[03:30] <stdin> rootMoon: no
[03:31] <quixogre> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=broadcom+43xx for the person with the belkin/broadcom card
[03:31] <quixogre> phoenix, and then it comes back up and asks for the passphrase again?
[03:31] <zeroziat> quixogre: thx
[03:32] <brainwrck> LOL
[03:32] <brainwrck> what about my question :'(
[03:32] <quixogre> zeroziat: hope that  helps
[03:33] <quixogre> brain?
[03:33] <brainwrck> how do I lock tftp to eth0
[03:33] <brainwrck> I have eth1 using internet
[03:33] <stdin> look in it's config files and man page
[03:33] <brainwrck> but I need tftp to connect through eth0
[03:34] <brainwrck> mm... stdin I don't think that's a Kubuntu solution
[03:34] <stdin> in what way?
[03:34] <brainwrck> isn't *ntu  pose to be user friendly?
[03:35] <brainwrck> Shuttleworth wouldn't be that happy about it
[03:35] <stdin> you're using a ftp daemon, it's settings are in config files, there the solution will lay
[03:35] <ardchoille> brainwrck: It *IS* user-friendly.. that doesn't mean the user shouldn't have to learn something.
[03:35] <uga> brainwrck: if you configured eth0 properly, it possibly covers a different subnet mask?
[03:35] <uga> brainwrck: than internet
[03:36] <uga> depending on the target IP address, packets should be routed through eth0
[03:37] <brainwrck> uga: I was just thinking about that, that the IP is what identifies eth0, right?
[03:38] <uga> afaik, yes
[03:38] <brainwrck> then that was a stupid question
[03:38] <uga> just configure a given static IP to eth0, then a subnet mask like 255.255.255.0, and set the rest of machines in the same range and subnet mask
[03:38] <jordo23> I have spamassassin hooked into Kontact.....is there a way to update the rules or something.....It's not catching very much SPAM....
[03:38] <uga> the packets should be routed through there
[03:38] <brainwrck> awsome I did on my own with nobody having to help me :-)
[03:38] <uga> =)
[03:39] <uga> brainwrck: possibly you could configure some routing tables too, but I've never had the need to do so, so I cant' really tell how-to, without reading through docs
[03:40] <brainwrck> uga: for my purpuse simple IP is anough
[03:40] <jordo23> Jucato: You use Kontact?
[03:40] <uga> brainwrck: I hope the linux stack or whatever is clever enough to figure out it doesn't need to go through eth1...
[03:40] <jordo23> Jucato: Hi....BTW
[03:41] <Jucato> jordo23: hi! and yes
[03:41] <jordo23> Jucato: I installed SPam Assassin....is there a better way to control Spam through Kontact?
[03:41] <Jucato> oh that I don't know... but must be a setting in kmail
[03:41] <Jucato>  I let google do the spam killing for me
[03:42] <jordo23> Jucato: Yeah....Kmail....I have Spam assassin hooked into Kmail....but I don't think it's working very well..
[03:42] <ardchoille> Jucato: same
[03:42] <LordBacon> hotmail seems to be really good at killing spam now too
[03:42] <Jucato> I will have to learn these someday.. when I try to host my own stuff :)
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: same :)
[03:42] <Jucato> yeah.. right.... hotmail. :)
[03:43] <jordo23> This is my email through my ISP...
[03:43] <LordBacon> yahoo is horrible
[03:43] <uga> LordBacon: it's so easy for them. That's cheating. They have a whole collection of years of spam in them to have proper statistics ;))
[03:44] <uga> just check e-mails in inboxes of users, of the last 10 years or so. If it matches, it's spam, else it's not
[03:44] <ardchoille> lol
[03:44] <hasan> hi guys
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> hey hasan
[03:44] <ardchoille> hi hasan
[03:44] <hasan> how can i check a programs version  from command line ?
[03:44] <uga> hasan: depends on the program
[03:45] <uga> try programname --hep
[03:45] <hasan> stardict
[03:45] <uga> help
[03:45] <ardchoille> hasan: apt-cache policy appname
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> hasan: yep "<program name> -v"
[03:45] <Jucato> apt-cache madison <packagename>
[03:45] <stdin> hasan: generally  program --version
[03:45] <uga> or program -v...
[03:45] <ardchoille> Jucato: madison?
[03:45] <stdin> some don't have -v
[03:45] <Jucato> depends ont he program :)
[03:45] <Jucato> ardchoille: yep. although policy hits 2 birds w/ 1 command
[03:45] <uga> stdin: yeah, I only pointed that one out, because some don't like -- and go for -v
[03:45] <ardchoille> Jucato: oh, ok
[03:46] <hasan> stardict has a version 3 but i ve got 2.4 how cna i ugrade it ?
[03:46] <stdin> uga: and for some it's -V  who knows  :p
[03:46] <uga> stdin: for example, how not, firefox
[03:46] <brainwrck> do I have to run tftp as user or as root?
[03:46] <hasan> how can i search for this version ?
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> hasan: is version 3 in the repositories?
[03:46] <stdin> uga: firefox --version works here
[03:47] <hasan> i donno
[03:47] <uga> stdin: ah, it seems they accept both. Just docs mention a single dash one
[03:47] <ardchoille> hasan: it's usually best to stick with the version in the repos unless you have a good reason not to
[03:47] <hasan> i web site there is a deb package
[03:47] <stdin> uga: most take "long" options and "short" options
[03:47] <uga> stdin: I think they ignore the first - and then they find -version ;)
[03:47] <hasan> how can i check whether it's in repo or not
[03:47] <ardchoille> hasan: It's not a good idea touse .deb packages that were built for other distros
[03:47] <uga> stdin: no, according to the help, it's "-v or -version"
[03:48] <uga> unlike most programs that claim "-v or --version"
[03:48] <ardchoille> hasan: apt-cache policy stardict
[03:48] <hasan> it says it's for ubuntu
[03:48] <hasan> in his site
[03:48] <hasan> it says 2.4
[03:48] <uga> stdin: but no surprises here. firefox and zilla apps are whole OSes on their own...
[03:48] <ardchoille> hasan: it may be ok then
[03:48] <ardchoille> uga: like emacs?
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> heh
[03:48] <hasan> using deb packages does it affect stabilty of system ?
[03:48] <uga> ardchoille: more or less ;)
[03:49] <stdin> !deb
[03:49] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:49] <hungrysam> how to uninstall them
[03:49] <hungrysam> ?
[03:49] <quixogre> hungrysam: uninstall whom?
[03:49] <ardchoille> hungrysam: uninstall what?
[03:49] <hungrysam> uninstall a deb
[03:50] <ardchoille> hungrysam: sudp apt-get remove packagename
[03:50] <hungrysam> and how do you find the packagename?
[03:50] <hasan> or dpkg -i pkg name
[03:50] <stdin> if you installed it, then you should know
[03:50] <quixogre> hungrysam: what app you trying to remove?
[03:50] <hasan> apt-cache search pkname
[03:50] <hungrysam> nero
[03:50] <stdin> eww
[03:51] <ardchoille> lol
[03:51] <stdin> "sudo apt-get --purge remove nero"  maybe?
[03:51] <ardchoille> Seems like it should work
[03:51] <hungrysam> I'll try
[03:52] <stdin> or "sudo apt-get --purge remove nerolinux"
[03:52] <uga> stdin: I'd add --killit --nonfree --broken --nomore --pleaze
[03:52] <hungrysam> ah
[03:52] <stdin> and --forgive-me-for-installing-this
[03:52] <uga> lol
[03:52] <ardchoille> hahaha
[03:53] <hungrysam> "sudo apt-get --purge remove nerolinux" << that did it, thanks
[03:53] <quixogre> nero is on linux? and they say linux is immune to virii
[03:53] <hungrysam> ha ha
[03:53] <hungrysam> yeah
[03:53] <hungrysam> it's not on my linux anymore
[03:53] <ardchoille> quixogre: Anyone who says Linux is "immune" to viruses is lying.
[03:53] <uga> hungrysam: did it actually work?
[03:54] <hungrysam> yes
[03:54] <uga> I wonder if they use cdrecord too
[03:54] <stdin> ardchoille: yeah, automatix is the most prevalent one
[03:54] <ardchoille> lol!
[03:54] <quixogre> ardchoille: yeah i know...have seen some pretty trojans packaged in SATAN builds
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[03:54] <uga> hungrysam: oh, so... why did you remove it then. Out of curiosity
[03:54] <phoenixz> quixogre, Yeap,, it tries to connect, and then I get the same WEP pass phrase  thing again
[03:55] <hungrysam> uga: I installed it on accident
[03:55] <uga> heh
[03:55] <quixogre> phoenixz: does your wifi card work on any other connections?
[03:56] <brainwrck> why a DVD would be recognized then never appear again? External usb DVD
[03:56] <brainwrck> wussup with dat?
[03:56] <savetheWorld> ardchoille: I agree, after all the very first intrnet worm was UNIX based.  But i do wonder - I hav nevr even seen an attempted attack by a linux oriented malware, and yet I 10'-K's of Win malware attacks almost daily. (cable modem) are there any active Linux malware in the wild?
[03:56] <rickey> ok i have downloaded vlc and have tryed to play a dvd movie,  it wont play  what do i need to know  to make it work?
[03:57] <quixogre> brainwrck: try mounting it manually?
[03:57] <rickey> sorry i dont know that trick
[03:58] <ardchoille> savetheWorld: PErhaps this may help you a bit: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:58] <brainwrck> quixogre: where is at?
[03:58] <brainwrck> fas
[03:58] <Jucato> "savetheCheerleader, savetheWorld"
[03:58] <quixogre> brainwrck: thats a good question....what happens if you disconnect the drive, and reconnect?
[03:58] <Jucato> sorry couldn't help
[03:58] <winbond> check it out, when i execute a start script for firefox from the terminal ./firefox it starts quickly and its ready to go, but when i start it from a shortcut on the desktop, it starts but there is a busy icon bouncing for another 30 seconds, whats the problem?
[03:58] <ardchoille> Jucato: lol
[03:59] <brainwrck> quixogre: nada zip on dmesg, and it DID work earlier with k3b
[03:59] <ardchoille> winbond: You need a full path in the launcher because the script isn't in your $PATH
[04:00] <rickey> how should i set up vlc so i can watch movies
[04:00] <rickey>  dvd,s that is
[04:00] <ardchoille> stdin: Cleaning house?
[04:00] <stdin> ardchoille: all one person...
[04:00] <Jucato> clearing the trash actually :)
[04:00] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> heh
[04:01] <winbond> ardchoille, full path of what?  ..in the firefox script?
[04:02] <ardchoille> winbond: In the launcher:  /path/to/script
[04:02] <LordBacon> can I install vista fonts on kubuntu?
[04:02] <brainwrck> ok      I see where the error is about
[04:02] <ardchoille> winbond: Actually this would be better:  sh /path/script
[04:02] <LordBacon> I really like calibri and consolas
[04:02] <brainwrck> it thinks it's a MOUSE
[04:02] <brainwrck> why would it think the external DVD is a damn mouse?
[04:02] <winbond> ardchoille, bu launcher , u mean the shortcut?
[04:02] <ardchoille> yes
[04:03] <ardchoille> sorry
[04:03] <savetheWorld> ardchoille: nice article. thanks for the pointer. :-)
[04:03] <ardchoille> savetheWorld: You understand now why Linux viruses aren't more prevalent?
[04:04] <uga> brainwrck: ????
[04:04] <brainwrck> uga: hi
[04:04] <savetheWorld> ardchoille: Oh i have allways understood that, i read rick moens article on it years ago.  My question was how many are there actually active in the wilds of the internet.  The answer appears to be : effectively zero.
[04:04] <brainwrck> why is it doing this?
[04:04] <uga> brainwrck: what did you do to the poor dvd to behave like a mouse =)
[04:05] <uga> must have been cruel
[04:05] <ardchoille> savetheWorld: That's right: Linux active viruses = 0
[04:05] <savetheWorld> ardchoille: I think I may like this article's explanation better than Ricks
[04:05] <brainwrck> [56774.252510]  input: HID 062a:0001 as /class/input/input9
[04:05] <ardchoille> :)
[04:05] <brainwrck> [56774.252576]  input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [HID 062a:0001]  on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2
[04:05] <rickey> i realy would like to watch a movie tonigth , wont someone walk me though this proublem
[04:05] <brainwrck> WHA DA F??!
[04:05] <uga> brainwrck: oh, dmesg?
[04:05] <uga> usb dvd drive?
[04:06] <ardchoille> rickey: Which problem?
[04:06] <brainwrck> uga: external
[04:06] <rickey> ok
[04:06] <uga> brainwrck: it only means it didn't recognise what the device is
[04:06] <rickey>  i have just downloaded vlc player
[04:06] <brainwrck> /class/input/input9 it's nine because unplugging and pluggin
[04:06] <rickey> it was a big download
[04:06] <uga> brainwrck: do you know if the drive is supported by linux?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> !enter | rickey
[04:06] <rickey>  and i just tryed to play a dvd movie
[04:06] <ubotu> rickey: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:06] <winbond> ardchoille, as the command in the shortcut i have '/home/winbond/appz/firefox/firefox' if i add the sh at fron it doesnt work
[04:06] <rickey>  and it didnt work
[04:06] <brainwrck> uga: did work it's first 30 minuutes
[04:07] <uga> weirdo
[04:07] <brainwrck> uga: it was even displayed on k4b devices
[04:07] <ardchoille> winbond: I don't see a filename (script?) in that command
[04:07] <coreymon77> !doesntwork | rickey
[04:07] <ubotu> rickey: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:07] <rickey> maybe i missed something in the setup
[04:07] <jduckett> anyone try install using debootstrap??
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:08] <ardchoille> rickey: To watch a dvd, you most likely need to install libdvdcss2
[04:08] <quixogre> moving to the lab. disconnecting for a few
[04:08] <ardchoille> !libdvdcss2 | rickey
[04:08] <ubotu> rickey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:08] <winbond> ardchoille, firefox is the name of the script, sorry but i dont have much experience with linux
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> not for vlc to play it ardchoille
[04:08] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Oh, ok
[04:08] <LordBacon> Seveas doesn't have x64 packages of libdvdcss2
[04:08] <LordBacon> I had to get it from medibuntu
[04:09] <jduckett> anyone have problems installing kubuntu on 64-bit box??
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> jduckett: worked here.
[04:09] <LordBacon> jduckett: nothing I didn't expect
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> installing was fine... its running it
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:09] <jduckett> segmentation faults?
[04:09] <jduckett> dpkg --configure -a??
[04:09] <ardchoille> winbond: This is how I run scripts in a launcher/shortcut:  "sh /path/to/script"  If that's not working for you, then I don't know what to say
[04:09] <LordBacon> I keep getting adept crashes, dunno if that's x64 related
[04:10] <jduckett> me too
[04:10] <jduckett> this is a clean install
[04:10] <LordBacon> I'm more comfortable with apt though, I only use adept for searching
[04:10] <jduckett> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> I use synaptoc
[04:11] <jduckett> can I use apt and synaptec interchangibly??
[04:11] <ardchoille> I use "apt-cache search" :)
[04:11] <LordBacon> I'd rather be using vista
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> jduckett: yep.
[04:11] <uga> stupid firefox won't learn to use $HOME by default...
[04:11] <uga> silly cluttered windows-style desktops...
[04:12] <LordBacon> anyway, dinner time
[04:12] <jduckett> thx
[04:12] <ardchoille> winbond: Any reason you're not using firefox from the repos?
[04:13] <winbond> ardchoille, not , its just that im using firefox3
[04:13] <timur> hi guys
[04:13] <timur> I just installed Kubuntu
[04:13] <winbond> ardchoille, where do i enter the sh..., in the command bracket?
[04:13] <timur> but i dont See my DVD drive
[04:13] <timur> do u know why?>
[04:13] <ardchoille> I'll never understand why people have to have the latest when the version in the repos works fine.
[04:14] <uga> timur: ide/sata/external?
[04:14] <timur> i just installed Kubuntu ??? I loged in with the name that i used during the install ... so now i create what??? user account?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> timur: no, that account is fine
[04:15] <stdin> timur: what do you mean you don't see the drive?
[04:15] <ardchoille> timur: The account you're using is your user account.
[04:15] <timur> I dont see it in storage media
[04:15] <jduckett> synaptec can be run from the command line, right??
[04:15] <stdin> timur: you have a CD/DVD in the drive ?
[04:16] <ardchoille> jduckett: kdesu synaptic
[04:16] <timur> no
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> timur: pop one in and witness magic :)
[04:16] <stdin> timur: that'd be something to try
[04:16] <timur> oh now i SEE it
[04:17] <timur> So now i just keep using the account i used during the install??
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> timur: yep, unless you want to make an account for someone else
[04:17] <stdin> "automagic" is better :)
[04:17] <ardchoille> Like that one too
[04:18] <stdin> or "automagical"
[04:18] <ardchoille> !sudo | timur
[04:18] <ubotu> timur: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:18] <timur> and i will be able to install firefox and synaptic with taht account ?
[04:18] <ardchoille> timur: You should read that^^
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> timur: via sudo, yes
[04:18] <LordBacon> I used to call autoconf automagic
[04:18] <timur> How about graphicly??
[04:18] <LordBacon> but it was also autocrack
[04:19] <stdin> timur: Kubuntu uses Adept
[04:19] <LordBacon> btw, why doesn't kdesu cache credentials?
[04:19] <stdin> timur: (to install packages)
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> timur: yep, just use adept_manager
[04:19] <stdin> !adept | timur
[04:19] <ubotu> timur: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:19] <ardchoille> LordBacon: I've wondered about that myself
[04:19] <timur> But i can install synaptic also right?
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> timur: sure.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> timur: you a ubuntu user?
[04:20] <timur> how come when i type  in search  nothing shows up  for skype
[04:20] <stdin> !skype | timur
[04:20] <ubotu> timur: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> timur: skype isn't in the repositories
[04:20] <stdin> skype is evil too ;)
[04:21] <urli_> hola a todos
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> hola urli_
[04:21] <urli_> hay alguien qu ehable espalol
[04:21] <ardchoille> !es
[04:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:21] <urli_> como estas
[04:21] <LordBacon> so, I used the "sleep" option on logout today
[04:21] <urli_> de donde sos}
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> urli_: va a #ubuntu-es para espanol
[04:21] <LordBacon> but when I turned the computer back on, it wouldn't turn off the screensaver
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: did your mouse wake up?
[04:21] <hellhound_> in using adept manager... is there any way to install something without entering the cd?  I am trying to install subversion and do not have the cd handy
[04:22] <LordBacon> my mouse did, I don't think my keyboard did
[04:22] <timur> why don't they put IT in ? rep?
[04:22] <LordBacon> I had a pretty GL Fireworks screensaver, and a mouse cursor
[04:22] <stdin> hellhound_: you need to remove the CD from the sources, I think the option is in File -> Manage Repositories
[04:22] <ardchoille> hellhound_: comment out the cd lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> hellhound_: yeah.... get it from the repositories... you might want to remove the apt-crom entry first though
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> timur: because its not open source, and Skype doesn't let them.
[04:24] <hellhound_> stdin: nosrednaekim:  thank you both! it worked.
[04:24] <LordBacon> skype was a pain in the but to get working on 64bit
[04:24] <timur> How do i see my download speed when using adept manager?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: I succumbed to autodevil for that...
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> timur: I think its on the bottom of the screen, I use synaptic though so...
[04:24] <LordBacon> !autodevil
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autodevil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: automatix.
[04:25] <LordBacon> !automatix
[04:25] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> and yes, I know all about that... don't worry ;)
[04:26] <timur> I dont see the download speed ..........
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> timur: well, thats why I use synaptic then ;)
[04:26] <PSPJunkie> !codecs
[04:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: I just used it to get the correct debs, I then wiped it.
[04:26] <timur> guys WHo knows how can i see the download speed in ?? AAdept manager??
[04:27] <LordBacon> nosrednaekim: I downloaded libsigc++ manually, extracted with ar x, untarred the real files, and copied the lib to /usr/lib32
[04:27] <ardchoille> What do you need to see the dl speed for? It'll be done when it's done.
[04:27] <timur> i want it !!
[04:27] <ardchoille> lol
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: heh... hence automatix..
[04:27] <timur> i think i will download synaptic then right ?
[04:27] <LordBacon> nosrednaekim: then installed the skype .deb, and downloaded the static version, and overwrote the main binary
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> timur: you can decide
[04:28] <LordBacon> nosrednaekim: I'm old, I don't know your new fangled cheats
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: lol.. not like i'm reccomending automatix.
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> LordBacon: its really really bad if you don't know what you are doing
[04:28] <timur> Guys  I have strange feeling that PClinux os rep. load about 10  times faster  then Kubuntu is taht possible?
[04:28] <ardchoille> LordBacon: Please don't use automatix.. it's dangerous and you'll be back in here later asking for help to fix things.
[04:28] <LordBacon> nosrednaekim: yeah, I'd rather do it myself than use something like that then
[04:29] <timur> i think i get like 600-750kb in pSlinuxOS and get about 56-75kb in Kubuntu
[04:29] <LordBacon> ardchoille: no I wouldn't :)
[04:29] <ardchoille> :)
[04:29] <LordBacon> remember, I'm a newb with 12 years linux experience
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> timur: switch to a different repository.
[04:29] <LordBacon> as well as over a year as a debian maintainer back in the day
[04:29] <ardchoille> LordBacon: That's why I pleaded with you
[04:29] <ardchoille> ;)
[04:29] <timur> how do i di that ? iam from NYC to which one do i swtich?
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> timur: anything closer, its in adept under adept->manage repositories
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> timur: you are probably using the default one which everyone uses
[04:31] <timur> how do i know which one is closer??
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> timur: just choose anything in the US besides the default, I use columbia, which I think is in NYC
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> I'm in south Jersey.
[04:32] <timur> nors so wich one do u use?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> columbia
[04:32] <LordBacon> don't tell him that, he'll steal all your leet bandwidth
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> haha
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> I don't download anything. dial-up quickly renders such thinngs irrelevant.
[04:32] <urli_> hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:32] <urli_> hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:33] <urli_> hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:33] <urli_> hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> !es
[04:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:33] <jduckett> I am using kernel 2.6.20-15-server.  anyone know of bad things trying to install kubuntu-desktop??
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> maybe not use the server kernel?
[04:33] <Jucato> !es | urli_
[04:33] <ubotu> urli_: please see above
[04:33] <stdin> jduckett: shouldn't be a problem
[04:34] <jduckett> well, my install is complicated
[04:34] <timur> For example when i click on Amarok icon twice it opens twice .... how do i make it open ONLY once no matter how many times i click on it???
[04:34] <jduckett> everything has been fine until a few days ago
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> timur: ummm.... you can;t really do that very easily
[04:35] <timur> NO i can't ? but every time i click on it i alaways accidently click on it more then once
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> timur: don't.
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> timur: maybe slow down your mouse.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> eh... I have to go. Long day tomorrow.
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> c ya'll later
[04:36] <knub> nosrednaekim: see ya : P
[04:36] <timur> IS Kubuntu better then GNome??
[04:36] <timur> than ?*
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> !gnome
[04:36] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> !kde
[04:37] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[04:37] <trpr> so... i just got klined. i think its because konversation replied to a slurry of ctcp version requests i received. how can i force konqueror to ignore these requests?
[04:38] <jduckett> A bit of history:
[04:38] <jduckett> I am using debootstrap to perform installs on multiple boxes.
[04:38] <jduckett> one of them is a remote machine.
[04:39] <jduckett> I am using debootstrap specifically, because, I have to install on a remote box.
[04:39] <jduckett> I am using debootstrap for all of the installs for consistency.
[04:39] <jduckett> Everything is 64-bit.
[04:39] <jduckett> prior Kubuntu-desktop installs have been successful.
[04:39] <jduckett> install failures have been within the past few days or at least that is when I noticed it.
[04:39] <jduckett> Sementation faults and dpkg --configure -a errors
[04:39] <jduckett> do I need to add something to:  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop??  I'm looking for anything 64-bit related
[04:40] <jduckett> it shouldn't matter right??
[04:40] <NickPresta> !enter | jduckett
[04:40] <ubotu> jduckett: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:41] <timur> How do i isntall Nvidia drivers from Synaptic??
[04:41] <ardchoille> !nvidia | timur
[04:41] <ubotu> timur: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <m4st3r> hey, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is not kernel upgrade CMD?
[04:43] <timur> Yeah but i wanan know how to install them from synaptic ?
[04:44] <ardchoille> timur: Read that tutorial and then decide on the proper packages
[04:44] <ardchoille> m4st3r: It should
[04:45] <m4st3r> I can't 7.10 kernel upgrade .....
[04:45] <Darlok> Hey... is it possible to run programs as root using the LiveCD?
[04:45] <stdin> Darlok: yeah, use sudo or kdesu
[04:45] <Darlok> stdin: No password, then?
[04:46] <stdin> Darlok: there isn't one on the liveCD no
[04:46] <stdin> Darlok: that's how the installer works (needs root to install)
[04:46] <timur> How do i put a storage Media Icon on the desktop and Konsole Icon on the panel??
[04:46] <Darlok> stdin: Thank you :)  Trying out the new Gutsy Beta
[04:47] <JEFFmasterFlex> timur: drag and drop
[04:47] <ardchoille> stdin: How did they do that? By putting NOPASSWD in the sudoers file?
[04:48] <stdin> ardchoille: I think it's just that "ubuntu" has no password
[04:49] <timur> How do i check if I now have Nvidia drivers installed or not??
[04:50] <timur> ?
[04:51] <Darlok> Hmm... this is going to be difficult to make administrative changes on the LiveCD...
[04:51] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, yeah, that would make sense.. need to assign one during the install
[04:52] <ardchoille> timur: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[04:52] <stdin> ardchoille: well, it chroots in to the new partition and runs the normal adduser commands
[04:52] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:52] <Darlok> ...can't install software with the LiveCD... thought you could, but it's just hanging at "Reading package lists...0%"
[04:53] <Darlok> ...can't Ctrl-C it either.
[04:53] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to run a Python script that depends on the 'sleep' function in the 'time' module, but every time it tries to import that, Python says there is no 'sleep' function. What am I missing?
[04:53] <LogicalDash> It works fine for all the guys in #python so I'm thinking this is something distro-specific.
[04:54] <timur> i installed it so di needto restart now?
[04:54] <timur> nvidia-glx works for Geforce 2 mx 400 right ? -)))
[04:55] <timur> right?
[04:56] <timur> hallo
[04:56] <ardchoille> timur: You don't need to reboot.. just restart xorg with ctrl+alt+backspace. But, did you follow the rest of that tutorial?
[04:57] <earl_> hey guys. I'm trying to get audio to come in through my microphone port, and out from my speakers. how can i make that happen?
[04:58] <earl_> helloooo anybody out there tonight
[04:58] <ardchoille> yes
[04:59] <earl_> every piece of documentation i look at, or even adept, gives me no response whatsoever when i type in microphone
[04:59] <earl_> and yet the Kmixer applcation has a section devoted to recording
[04:59] <earl_> so what gives
[04:59] <Darlok> Another question... can Kmail check gmail accounts?
[04:59] <ardchoille> Darlok: yes
[05:00] <Jucato> yep. using pop3
[05:00] <stdin> Darlok: set gmail to use pop and any email client can
[05:00] <earl_> noone knows the answer?
[05:00] <earl_> it doesn't seem like it should be that complicated to do...
[05:00] <Darlok> stdin, ardchoille: Wow... I had no idea gmail allowed that lol
[05:00] <Darlok> thanks
[05:01] <ardchoille> Darlok: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/39788
[05:01] <timur> How come i isntalled the driver and can't play open arena??
[05:02] <ardchoille> timur: Open a terminal and do: glxinfo | grep render    <-- does it say "Yes"?
[05:03] <timur> missing on display
[05:05] <ardchoille> timur: Did you reconfigure xorg to use the nvidia driver?
[05:05] <timur> no
[05:05] <timur> how do i do that?
[05:05] <ardchoille> timur: I think you need to go back and follow that tutorial
[05:06] <ardchoille> cuz if you missed that step, you might have missed others
[05:06] <timur> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <timur> What step??
[05:07] <timur> i am confused plz tell me
[05:07] <ardchoille> timur: What have you done so far?
[05:08] <timur> I installed nvidia-glx
[05:09] <ardchoille> timur: Open a terminal and do: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:10] <timur> ok then?
[05:10] <timur> restart ?
[05:10] <level1> hi, I'm using knetworkmanager but my college dorm uses a cloaked and encrypted network... knetworkmanager keeps forgetting about the network (there are different routers in every building) so I half to reenter the password every time I connect to the internet, and its getting tedious... is there a way to get knetworkmanager to *always* suggest that network, even if its not detected?
[05:12] <LordBacon> is there a way to backup my install to a external HD?
[05:12] <LordBacon> I don't want to dd, because that will get all the empty space as well
[05:12] <ardchoille> LordBacon: Try using the partimage app on the system rescue cd: http://sysresccd.org
[05:12] <LordBacon> I don't have any blank cds
[05:13] <ardchoille> LordBacon: partimage will only copy the used portion of the partition, not the entire thing
[05:13] <ardchoille> oh
[05:14] <brainwrck> hi
[05:14] <Daskreech> LordBacon: What do you want to backup ?
[05:14] <LordBacon> meh, I could probably boot the livedvd and just tar the system
[05:14] <brainwrck> wuuuuuurup everybodyyy?
[05:15] <LordBacon> Daskreech: the entire system so I can either A> put it in a VM, or B> restore it after I redo stuff with windows
[05:15] <level1> LordBacon: theres lots of utilities to do that
[05:15] <Daskreech> LordBacon: Why don't you just backup Home and then make a list of your installed packages?
[05:16] <LordBacon> Daskreech: because copying to an external HD is faster than installing gutsy from scratch
[05:16] <Daskreech> I guess
[05:17] <zeroziat> Hey.
[05:17] <zeroziat> How do I make Kubuntu see my Hard Drive)
[05:17] <Daskreech> zeroziat: It probably does already
[05:17] <zeroziat> Well
[05:18] <zeroziat> I c't access it
[05:18] <zeroziat> I go to /media and it doesn't show up
[05:18] <Daskreech> Ah
[05:18] <Daskreech> zeroziat: You could mount it
[05:18] <winbond> does anyone use safepeer plugin with azureus?
[05:18] <Daskreech> What do you want to do with it?
[05:19] <zeroziat> Daskreech: How?
[05:19] <ubuntu--> Daskreech: hi! :P that's 'knub' here
[05:19] <Daskreech> zeroziat: You want to just do somethign quickly or you want a more permanent setup?
[05:19] <Daskreech> Knub!!!
[05:20] <ubuntu--> : ) horray!
[05:20] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Well, something quickly, although I don't have Kubuntu installed yet
[05:20] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ok open a konsole
[05:20] <zeroziat> Daskreech: I wanna test first if my Wifi card will work since it's a broadcom and I heard it's very difficult to make them run even though I made mine run months ago on Ubuntu
[05:21] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Yeah I did to on feisty and it broke on gutsy :(
[05:22] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ok man go to it :) Let me know when you want help with the hard drive
[05:22] <Daskreech> !wifi
[05:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:22] <Daskreech> ubuntu--: How are you?
[05:22] <zeroziat> Daskreech: I have files in my hard drive to make my Wifi work, i'm on Windows XP
[05:23] <zeroziat> And my Kubuntu won't detect my Hard Drive in Kubuntu
[05:23] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Ah
[05:23] <Daskreech> I see so you need the hard drive first
[05:23] <ryhim> hi all
[05:23] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Yup.
[05:24] <ubuntu_> HOLYY shit I installed Nvidia Drivers now my system would not boot
[05:24] <Daskreech> zeroziat: so you have that konsole open?
[05:24] <Daskreech> !ohmy | ubuntu_
[05:24] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <ryhim> after install bind9 i can't find named.conf.options, named.conf, and named.conf.local under /etc/bind/
[05:24] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Can't I'm on Windows XP, so I'll have to note instructions down
[05:24] <ubuntu_> plz help me
[05:24] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ooooh that's annoying :)
[05:24] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Lol, yeah
[05:24] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:25] <Daskreech> zeroziat: OK open konsole and type mkdir windows
[05:25] <ubuntu_> what do i dp?
[05:25] <Daskreech> that will make a directory called windows
[05:25] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Yeah, I know the basics, I'm talking through irssi on a shell account
[05:25] <ryhim> anyone can help me?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> my system wont boot after installing Nv drivers so what do I do?????
[05:26] <ryhim> i've a problem after installing bind9
[05:26] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ok you know about the /dev folder?
[05:26] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: boot up with safe drivers and redo your X
[05:27] <zeroziat> Daskreech: A bit, I know it haves something about hda since I inspected it, so yeah
[05:27] <ubuntu_> what command i do to but up in safe drivers?
[05:27] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Ok you know how to read the hda and sdb stuff?
[05:27] <ubuntu_> safe mode
[05:27] <zeroziat> Daskreech: That's one of the parts that fail for me, I dunno
[05:28] <ubuntu_> How do I make it run into safe mode???????
[05:28] <npurciful> hows it going
[05:29] <ubuntu_> how do i make Kubuntu run into graphics safe mode upon startup ?
[05:29] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:30] <npurciful> I am looking to clean my .bashhistory any ideals other than cron to delete
[05:30] <XsteelWolf> ubuntu, boot it into recovery mode
[05:30] <ubuntu_> how do i boot into recovery mode???????
[05:30] <npurciful> esc at grub
[05:30] <XsteelWolf> it's listed there when you boot up
[05:30] <ubuntu_> no it does not
[05:31] <ubuntu_> for me it does not.
[05:31] <XsteelWolf> boot to grub bootloader
[05:31] <ubuntu_> how what?
[05:31] <ubuntu_> more specific plz
[05:31] <zeroziat> Daskreech: You there?
[05:32] <ubuntu_> when MY pc starts ubuntu loads it asks for my account and password then black screen and command line
[05:32] <ubuntu--> Daskreech: i am ok : )
[05:32] <Daskreech> zeroziat: yes
[05:32] <ubuntu--> i did not see the message before
[05:33] <zeroziat> Daskreech: KK
[05:33] <ubuntu--> Daskreech: and you? : P
[05:33] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ok the first two letters are the connections tyoe
[05:33] <Daskreech> so hd is for IDE devices
[05:33] <Daskreech>  SD for sata
[05:33] <ubuntu_> ??? so what do I do???
[05:33] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Okay
[05:34] <ubuntu_> hallo
[05:35] <Daskreech> the third letter is where it is in the chain
[05:35] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: have you ever read up on grub?
[05:35] <zeroziat> Daskreech: May we bring this to PMs? It looks a bit difficult to do this =p
[05:35] <ubuntu_> no
[05:35] <Daskreech> zeroziat: so hda is the first device on the IDE chain hdb is the second
[05:36] <ardchoille> npurciful: You could: echo "" >> ~/.bash_history
[05:36] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: Ok look up editing grub. the option you are looking to add is xforcevesa
[05:36] <ryhim> test
[05:36] <ryhim> i've a problem after installing bind9
[05:36] <ryhim> after install bind9 i can't find named.conf.options, named.conf, and named.conf.local under /etc/bind/
[05:36] <Daskreech> ryhim: can't you create them?
[05:38] <Daskreech> zeroziat: you know about master/slave primary/secondary channel for IDE?
[05:38] <ubuntu--> Daskreech: how about you? :P
[05:38] <npurciful> ardchoille: good idea,
[05:38] <Daskreech> ubuntu--: rushed for the whole of this week
[05:38] <Daskreech> I don't think I got very much done
[05:38] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Not that much, do I really need it? 'cause I have only one hard drive
[05:38] <ubuntu_> what i don't undertand where to look up can u plz give me a link???????
[05:39] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: do you know the grub menu?
[05:39] <ubuntu_> NO
[05:39] <ubuntu_> i dont even know what are u talking about
[05:39] <Daskreech> zeroziat: oh great. do you know about tab completion?
[05:39] <ubuntu_> My system boots right iNTo COmmand liNE
[05:39] <mindcry> hello
[05:39] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: when you boot up Linux the first thing you see after the Bios is a countdown saying to show GRUB menu press esc ?
[05:40] <ubuntu-knub> Daskreech: you really are good at concentrating in very much chats simultaneously :P hehe
[05:40] <zeroziat> Daskreech: The thing where you press tab and it brings you to the closest thing you typed in? =)
[05:40] <mindcry> Daskreech: i have problem with my connection
[05:40] <ubuntu_> yes but i see nothing there just the black screen
[05:40] <Daskreech> ubuntu-knub: Yeah yeah :)
[05:40] <Daskreech> zeroziat: yes
[05:40] <Daskreech> mindcry: What kind of connection
[05:40] <zeroziat> ubuntu-knub: Lol, you are right, we are like 5 guys talking to him at the same time
[05:40] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: Ok want to login there and get direct help?
[05:40] <mindcry> bluetooth dialup connection Daskreech
[05:40] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: you have net?
[05:40] <Daskreech> mindcry: Eek
[05:40] <Daskreech> mindcry: the bluetooth works fine?
[05:41] <mindcry> i can connect to irc with it
[05:41] <ubuntu_> I am on live cd right now
[05:41] <mindcry> ahhaha its a progresss
[05:41] <mindcry> yes
[05:41] <mindcry> :D
[05:41] <mindcry> thanks for you all
[05:41] <mindcry> but,
[05:41] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: I figured
[05:41] <ubuntu-knub> zeroziat: hehe yes
[05:41] <ubuntu_> MY kde wont boot just the black screen and command  line
[05:41] <mindcry> i still get problem on browsing web page and other
[05:41] <ubuntu_> how do i boot into vesa??
[05:41] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: Listen to me for a second and you can log in to here from the command line ok?
[05:41] <Daskreech> mindcry: Hmm
[05:42] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:42] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Alright, Tab completion...
[05:42] <mindcry> and my irc sometimes get disconnected after 3 mins
[05:42] <ncs> i've a problem after installing bind9
[05:42] <ncs> after install bind9 i can't find named.conf.options, named.conf, and named.conf.local under /etc/bind/
[05:42] <ncs> how to fix it?
[05:42] <mindcry> it seems idle hang up
[05:42] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Right so after you make a directory type sudo /dev/hd<tab><tab>
[05:42] <Daskreech> mindcry: I'm not too sure. this is from a cell phone?
[05:43] <mindcry> yes
[05:43] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: ok when you boot up you will see a note about he grub menu press Esc
[05:43] <ubuntu-knub> zeroziat: and, evenmore, helping people here :P
[05:43] <ncs> ?
[05:43] <mindcry> correct
[05:43] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:43] <ubuntu_> then
[05:43] <Daskreech> ubuntu-knub: what have you been up to?
[05:43] <zeroziat> ubuntu-knub: xD Yup.
[05:43] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: you will get a menu
[05:43] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: one of them should say recovery
[05:43] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: You can choose that one
[05:44] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Okay, so... mkdir windows, sudo /dev/hd<tab>x2
[05:44] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Oh how many paritions do you have?
[05:44] <ubuntu-knub> ah... that meant what "what do you do?" or something like that?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> ok thats it?
[05:44] <ubuntu-knub> Daskreech:
[05:44] <ubuntu-knub> hehe
[05:44] <zeroziat> Daskreech: I have two partitions
[05:44] <ubuntu_> should i do it right now?
[05:44] <Daskreech> mindcry: Did you read the dialup help?
[05:44] <mindcry> Daskreech: i cant browse anything yet haha
[05:45] <mindcry> yes
[05:45] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: if you don't see a recovery then press e on the menu
[05:45] <mindcry> i read them
[05:45] <Daskreech> mindcry: no help I'm guessing?
[05:45] <ubuntu-knub> Daskreech: ah... that means what "what do i do etc.?" or something like that?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> On what MENU??
[05:45] <Daskreech> zeroziat: Windows and what?
[05:45] <mindcry> there is nothing about hang up after idling section
[05:45] <Daskreech> ubuntu-knub: how was your day is what it meant
[05:45] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: when you boot up you get a BIOS screen right?>
[05:45] <mindcry> after 3 mins of idle it seems automatic disconnect ( konversation )
[05:46] <zeroziat> Daskreech: One partition is windows, the other one is an NTFS one with some files I used for backing up for a reformat, I may use that partition for Kubuntu
[05:46] <mindcry> !dialup
[05:46] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:46] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:46] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ah ok in that case it's probably sudo mount /dev/hd(something)1
[05:46] <ubuntu_> but how does that relates to linux?
[05:46] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: right after that do you see any messages?
[05:46] <ubuntu_> no....
[05:46] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: or does it go straight to the loading screen?
[05:47] <ubuntu-knub> Daskreech: i was close in my guessing :P i've done a test today. it was the end of the test-week for me. -- and your busy week, what it was about?
[05:47] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: well then at the Bios sceen start mashing on ESC :0
[05:47] <zeroziat> Daskreech: So in little resume it's mkdir windows, sudo mount /dev/h#1 ?
[05:47] <Daskreech> ubuntu-knub: clients all having september crisis
[05:47] <Daskreech> zeroziat: nope sudo mount /dev/hd<tab><tab>
[05:47] <Daskreech> You will get a list of file names
[05:48] <ubuntu_> it goes balck screen grub couning down  4 3 2 1  black screen enter your name password ,, then i am loged on into KDE balck screen command line
[05:48] <Daskreech> you want the one that has two numbers
[05:48] <zeroziat> Daskreech: And then that's all?
[05:48] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: yes the black screen counting down that's grub
[05:48] <Daskreech> press esc when you see that and choose recovery
[05:48] <ubuntu_> i preess esc  right?
[05:48] <knub> Daskreech: and what's the definition of this?
[05:48] <ncs> T_T
[05:49] <Daskreech> zeroziat: look for a set of file names that have two numbers
[05:49] <ncs> any can help me
[05:49] <Daskreech>  So liike hda1 and hda2
[05:49] <ubuntu_> so i  try it rigth now
[05:49] <ubuntu_> yes?
[05:49] <Daskreech> zeroziat: the full command will be like sudo mount /dev/hda1 windows
[05:49] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: yes if you get in you can type sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:49] <Mr_Sonoma> ncs, you have to ask a question if your going to get help....
[05:50] <ncs> i've a problem after installing bind9
[05:50] <ncs> after install bind9 i can't find named.conf.options, named.conf, and named.conf.local under /etc/bind/
[05:50] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: when it's done type irssi -c irc.freenode.net  and you can join back here
[05:50] <ncs> how to fix it?
[05:50] <Daskreech> ubuntu_: YOu know how to join a channel?
[05:50] <ncs> Mr_Sonoma: how to fix it?
[05:50] <Daskreech> zeroziat: does that make sense?
[05:50] <mindcry> Mr_Sonoma: ?
[05:50] <mindcry> are you here?
[05:50] <Mr_Sonoma> uh hu
[05:51] <zeroziat> Daskreech: Yup, thanks man
[05:51] <mindcry> hahahha
[05:51] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, and your away on dal.net
[05:51] <zeroziat> Daskreech: I'll go try it
[05:51] <mindcry> glad to see you here sir
[05:51] <ncs> T_T
[05:51] <mindcry> :D
[05:51] <mindcry> yes
[05:51] <Daskreech> zeroziat: ok don't forget to make the directory then mount the drive to it
[05:51] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, i idle here a lot, but do watch the channel.
[05:51] <Daskreech> ncs: Is is  supposed to install those?
[05:51] <Mr_Sonoma> ncs, sorry cant say as i have ever used bind9
[05:51] <ncs> oh i c
[05:52] <mindcry> Mr_Sonoma:  are you using kubuntu?
[05:52] <Daskreech> knub: definition of ?
[05:52] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, join #kubuntu-offtopic??
[05:52] <Daskreech> ncs: I guess you are following some walkthrough ?
[05:52] <ncs> how if i create those files manually?
[05:52] <knub> Daskreech: september crisis :P
[05:52] <ncs> is it ok?
[05:53] <mindcry> im already there
[05:53] <mindcry> :D
[05:53] <mindcry> Mr_Sonoma: im already there
[05:53] <LordBacon> my god this USB controller is fast
[05:54] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, uh dont see ya, but yes i am using Kubuntu have been for uh....nearly a year i guess now.
[05:54] <Daskreech> knub: Oh when they reach the end of the finacial year and suddenly remember commitments and we get called in to do 4 months worht of work in 12 days
[05:54] <mindcry> well can i private msg on you?
[05:54] <Daskreech> ncs: It's fine
[05:55] <Mr_Sonoma> yes go ahead
[05:55] <biovore> oO
[05:55] <tiger_> Hi all, Gutsy question, hopefully this is the right place ! Fn keys for brightness are not working while brightness applets do work. It seems something related to acpi_fakekey command. Any idea ?
[05:55] <Daskreech> mindcry: thanks for asking him first :0
[05:55] <Daskreech> !gutsy | tiger_
[05:55] <ubotu> tiger_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:55] <mindcry> Mr_Sonoma:  can i have a private msg with you?
[05:55] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, yes go ahead
[05:55] <knub> Daskreech: what do you work with, man?
[05:55] <Daskreech> knub: Linux :)
[05:56] <knub> hhehe
[05:56] <jamie_> ji
[05:56] <jamie_> hi
[05:58] <LordBacon> I just did a cp -a of my real system to a ext2 partition on the external hd
[05:58] <Mr_Sonoma> mindcry, do you see my message?
[05:58] <Daskreech> !grub
[05:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <LordBacon> proc, etc weren't mounted of course
[05:59] <Arkard> Sup people?
[06:00] <Arkard> who here used Cedega?
[06:00] <Daskreech> ncs: hello?
[06:01] <mindcry> Mr_Sonoma:  i think i cant get into privmsg
[06:01] <mindcry> :D
[06:01] <mindcry> its ok talk in here
[06:01] <Mr_Sonoma> uh do you have your nick registered???
[06:02] <Daskreech> Just joing O-t
[06:02] <Daskreech> !offtopic
[06:02] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:02] <knub> Daskreech: what do you think about kde4? -- i don't understand the subject when it gets to the programmations, so :P i am just putting you to say a word about it
[06:03] <Daskreech> knub: What do you want to know?
[06:03] <knub> don't really want to know something specific. just your enthusiams (if there is any) about the subject
[06:03] <knub> :P hehe
[06:03] <Daskreech> Oh Loads!!!
[06:04] <knub> heehe i am waiting it too
[06:05] <Daskreech> Yeah 4.1 is where it's going to start though
[06:05] <Daskreech> 4.0 is like a really nice beta :)
[06:07] <winbond> where are the default desktop backgrounds located?
[06:08] <Daskreech>  /usr/share/kde/....mumbles as he walks off
[06:09] <winbond> thanks
[06:09] <shonen> I need to get my ntfs RAID-0 working under kubuntu feisty, but dmraid appears to be a game when I search for it in adept. is there a way to get this working I am not aware of?
[06:09] <juacom04> anyone knows wher i can find UML plugin for eclipse??
[06:10] <Daskreech> !info dmraid
[06:10] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 180 kB, installed size 612 kB
[06:10] <Daskreech> shonen: it's in universe
[06:10] <Daskreech> juacom04: maybe #eclipse ?
[06:11] <juacom04> thanks
[06:11] <knub> Daskreech: really? 4.0 will get a 'time of adjustments', so that's why you're saying 4.1 will be the one where it's going to start?
[06:11] <shonen> ah! I did not notice that "all" tab over there. thanks, Daskreech
[06:13] <Daskreech> knub: no but a lot of things aren't ready for when KDE4.0 ships
[06:13] <Daskreech> shonen: you are using debtags ?
[06:14] <Daskreech> knub: KDE4 != KDE 4.0
[06:15] <knub> i see :P anyway, we wait. i would contribute if i could. maybe someday i will be up to it
[06:15] <knub> ?
[06:15] <knub> no?
[06:15] <shonen> debstags?
[06:16] <shonen> tags*?
[06:17] <Daskreech> shonen: Which all tab?
[06:17] <Daskreech> knub: who says you can't contribute?
[06:17] <Daskreech> they lie! Liiiiiiiiiiiiiie
[06:17] <knub> isn't kde4 (or kde 4.0, which it was the same to me) the next version of kde, which is scheduled to go somewhen in december (if the schedule does not change)?
[06:17] <knub> heheh
[06:18] <knub> contribute with programming i can not at the moment :P
[06:18] <knub> hehe
[06:18] <stdin> KDE 3.5.8 should be out before KDE 4.0
[06:19] <knub> stdin: and 3.5.8 is what is called kde4, which different from kde 4.0?
[06:20] <stdin> knub: no, 3.5.8 is not KDE4, it's another release of KDE3.x
[06:20] <knub> so, what is kde4, if kde4 is different from kde 4.0?
[06:21] <Daskreech> knub: There is KDE3
[06:21] <Daskreech> Which is all of KDE3
[06:21] <LordBacon> kde4 is beautiful
[06:21] <knub> hehe which i thought was the same
[06:21] <Daskreech> KDE3.0 is NOT KDE3
[06:21] <knub> i see
[06:21] <stdin> KDE4 is the general name for all KDE version 4 and above
[06:21] <knub> eheh
[06:21] <Daskreech> So things that they promised for KDE3 may have came about in KDE3.2
[06:21] <stdin> well 4 and above but less than 5 :p
[06:21] <knub> i understand now. :P
[06:21] <CaptainApathy> kd4 = kde where the major version is 4
[06:21] <knub> hehhe
[06:22] <Daskreech> that doesn't mean that when KDE 4.0 comes out you shoudl start crying that they are liars they don't have X feature
[06:22] <CaptainApathy> except I missed the e...
[06:22] <CaptainApathy> meh
[06:22] <knub> CaptainApathy: :P heheh
[06:22] <knub> Daskreech: now i get it. thank you for the explanation
[06:22] <knub> :P
[06:22] <Daskreech> knub: right and who said you can't help?
[06:23] <knub> with programming i can not, right now :P
[06:23] <mpita> hola
[06:23] <knub> i meant programming while i said i could not. but in which other ways i could?
[06:23] <Daskreech> knub: KDE is much more than programming
[06:23] <Daskreech> Oh loads of ways
[06:23] <Daskreech> there is documentation there is promotion
[06:23] <Daskreech> usabilty
[06:24] <Daskreech> testing
[06:24] <mpita> primera vez que estoy aqui alguien habala espaol
[06:24] <stdin> feedback
[06:24] <Daskreech> triaging
[06:24] <stdin> !es | mpita
[06:24] <ubotu> mpita: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:25] <conundrum4000> I may have a dumb question. I just downloaded Kubuntu 7.10 beta, and I was attempting to install compiz-fusion.. however its not working :P
[06:25] <knub> at least with the promotion i contribute :P i really says good things about kde (and linux) when i have the chance in a conversation etc. -- about usability and testing, yes, you are right. it is really a way to contribute
[06:25] <knub> some translation i could do too
[06:26] <Mr_Sonoma> if i wanted to run a DNS lookup from comand line what command would i use??? i've done it before but for the life of me cant remember....
[06:26] <Daskreech> conundrum4000: I think #ubuntu-effects is the chan for compiz-fusion
[06:26] <Daskreech> knub: To what language?
[06:26] <knub> i will apply somewhere in kde page :P "hey! if you need me, mail me!" -- it's one more to contribute, isn't? hehe
[06:26] <knub> portuguese
[06:26] <conundrum4000> whois?
[06:27] <Daskreech> knub: you can do that in #kde
[06:27] <shonen> Daskreech, I was referring to the tab in adept I had to click to get it to search all repositories. dmraid is installed now, however, now I can't recall how to get the thing to mount
[06:27] <Daskreech> knub: ha ha portugese people love KDE for some reason. It's always like 99% translated
[06:27] <ether> has anyone else upgraded to gutsy yet?
[06:27] <conundrum4000> Dask: thanks :)
[06:28] <knub> hehe is it? i didn't know
[06:28] <Daskreech> ether: issues are still discussed in #ubuntu+1 though
[06:28] <ether> ah..
[06:28] <ether> thx
[06:28] <Daskreech> knub: http://commit-digest.org/issues/latest
[06:28] <Daskreech> they have a section for translation
[06:28] <Daskreech> Portugese is number two if its not number one
[06:28] <Daskreech>  and it's always number one
[06:29] <npurciful> ether: be runing gutsy seen alpha 5
[06:29] <ether> I'm definately going to do a fresh install when it's released.
[06:29] <shonen> ok, i just figured that out too. thanks for your help, though
[06:30] <knub> Daskreech: do you see a lot of portuguese speakers here? -- but it would be hard to tell since almost just english it used here hehe
[06:30] <Daskreech> !br
[06:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:30] <Daskreech> Heehee
[06:30] <knub> heheehe nice!
[06:35] <Daskreech> Yep :)
[06:35] <Daskreech> But No KDE4 for Kubuntu for a while
[06:36] <Daskreech> So when you first upgrade into a KDE4 desktop it will probably be KDE 4.1 so I'll be happy
[06:36] <knub> 'cos you won't have to be answering lots of questions and solving problems?
[06:36] <knub> hehe
[06:37] <Daskreech> Naw I'll be doing that till they cover me with dirt
[06:37] <knub> "have" -- i meant, you won't be asked a lots of questions here
[06:38] <knub> and debian? maybe will they put it in the unstable repos?
[06:39] <knub> Daskreech: very helping of yours! that's really nice :)
[06:40] <Daskreech> knub: It's there already
[06:40] <knub> i saw it in the experimental
[06:40] <Daskreech> Yeah
[06:41] <Daskreech> Oh right. I lose track of what's stable unstable and ownright kkoky
[06:42] <Daskreech> downright kooky :)
[06:42] <knub> so, won't they change to 4.0 when it's released? -- by the way, that's a good doubt. when distros-etc. change when this change is like this one? -- about gnome, i saw in gnome page: 2.20 released
[06:42] <knub> but gnome package in debian unstable says 2.18.something
[06:43] <knub> change as soon as the version is released wouldn't be the thing to do?
[06:45] <knub> :P i think it is just orders and stability. hhehe but i don't know exactly what they are too, the stable, testing, unstable and experimental repos in debian
[06:45] <Tm_T> knub: KDE4 is and will be available in Kubuntu, but not as default too soon
[06:46] <kristjan_> I can't make kubuntu login screen make display user custom images, what's the matter?
[09:28] (avt3kk/#kubuntu) whats the partition thing called
[09:28] (avt3kk/#kubuntu) in ubuntu
[09:28] (avt3kk/#kubuntu) dapper
[09:28] (avt3kk/#kubuntu) I want to see them all at once
[09:28] (stdin/#kubuntu) rabi: it will install kubuntu, but adept should let you update, no need for update-manager
[09:28] <rabi> how to update using adept?
[09:29] <stdin> rabi: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu
[09:29] <rabi> stdin: Thank you.
[09:33] <avt3kk> heres the screenshot
[09:33] <avt3kk> http://rapidshare.com/files/58796440/Screenshot.png.html
[09:33] <avt3kk> to go with the tut I made
[09:33] <avt3kk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536491
[09:33] <avt3kk> see lol
[09:33] <avt3kk> picture of my partitions and my tut I made
[09:34] <avt3kk> who seen it?
[09:34] <ardchoille> avt3kk: Might wanna check that screenshot url again
[09:34] <Evolution2>  hey guys, my question regards compiz vs. beryl. what is the better manager? i have been using beryl for awhile and i am wondering what compiz has to offer, and if it can be edited as easily. iam running Kubuntu feisty KDE 3.5.7
[09:35] <ardchoille> Evolution2: Might wanna join #ubuntu-effects
[09:35] <Evolution2> i did
[09:35] <Evolution2> no one is there
[09:35] <avt3kk> http://rapidshare.com/files/58796821/Screenshot.png.html
[09:35] <avt3kk> ardcho thats it see
[09:35] <ardchoille> Evolution2: My opinion? both compiz and beryl are nothing more than resource wasting toys.
[09:36] <avt3kk> see it?
[09:36] <avt3kk> does it work
[09:36] <avt3kk> download the pic
[09:36] <Evolution2> what i want to know is there a "compiz theme manager" like Emerald theme manager for Beryl
[09:36] <ardchoille> avt3kk: A screenshot url is supposed to show a screenshot, not make me download it
[09:37] <avt3kk> so how I do it then
[09:37] <avt3kk> I dunno
[09:37] <ardchoille> avt3kk: upload it to http://imageshack.us and link it?
[09:37] <avt3kk> k
[09:37] <kristjan_> ardchoille: if there are unused recources, then I why not use them with something like compiz?
[09:38] <ardchoille> kristjan_: I won't get into it in this channel
[09:39] <avt3kk> ok here it is
[09:39] <avt3kk> http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5025/screenshotqq6.png
[09:39] <ardchoille> avt3kk: Good job :)
[09:40] <avt3kk> ty :D
[09:40] <avt3kk> all are imaged
[09:40] <avt3kk> xp and ubuntu
[09:40] <pillowpants> can someone tell me why this script wont run?
[09:40] <pillowpants> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:40] <avt3kk> I just got through pulling a drive clone
[09:40] <avt3kk> from .1 bigger to .1 smaller
[09:41] <avt3kk> maunaly resize
[09:41] <avt3kk> acronis true imahge boot cd
[09:41] <stdin> !flash64 | pillowpants
[09:41] <ubotu> pillowpants: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:41] <avt3kk> image
[09:41] <avt3kk> so if you see anyone was waiting for me
[09:41] <kristjan_> pillowpants: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:41] <avt3kk> thats what i was doin
[09:42] <avt3kk> it works
[09:42] <avt3kk> now to download kubuntu
[09:42] <avt3kk> and pull out ubuntu
[09:42] <jussi01> !enter | avt3kk
[09:42] <ubotu> avt3kk: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:42] <avt3kk> fixboot fixmbr
[09:42] <avt3kk> sorry
[09:42] <jussi01> :)
[09:43] <pillowpants> kristjan_ : im on amd64
[09:43] <pillowpants> not that easy
[09:43] <avt3kk> the code i used is kind of shty but it worked
[09:45] <pillowpants> stdin: using 32 bit firefox is somewhat lame i feel
[09:46] <stdin> pillowpants: not much choice, that nspluginwrapper thing is very unstable and tends to eat CPU
[09:46] <avt3kk> goodnight guys :D so if anyone was asking if I put the disk clone back I did even if it was .1 larger then the destination regular hard drive ok haha :)
[09:46] <ardchoille> pillowpants: Not if it works with a minimum of user setup :)
[09:46] <avt3kk> goodnight buddys
[09:47] <ardchoille> nn avt3kk
[09:48] <pillowpants> stdiwn: point taken on cpu spikes
[09:50] <administrador> wenas
[09:53] <rabi> how to clean cache file and trace bin
[09:54] <rabi> Please help, how to clean cache file and trash bin. I an upgrading my system to gusty, but there is not enough free space.
[09:55] <flaccid> what are the locations of these, i've never heard of em
[09:55] <flaccid> which case and whats a trace bin
[09:55] <anthronaut> flaccid he means trash bin
[09:56] <anthronaut> or she, respectively
[09:56] <rabi> anyway I need to free some of my space in '/'. How to increase free space
[09:56] <flaccid> right click and empty it
[09:56] <flaccid> simple answer. delete files.
[09:56] <ardchoille> rabi: Open konqueror and type in:  trash:/
[09:56] <rabi> flaccid: no right click left click
[09:57] <anthronaut> rabi: what language do you speak?
[09:57] <flaccid> what location is kde trash ?  i can't remember. empty that folder
[09:57] <ardchoille> rabi: Also, open kcontrol and go to Security & Privacy > Privacy  and clean that up a bit
[09:57] <emilsedgh> flaccid: trash:/
[09:58] <flaccid> if you don't have large files to delete to free space then you will probably run into this again. you need to make decent free space for overhead
[09:58] <ardchoille> flaccid:  that or  ~/.local/share/Trash
[09:58] <flaccid> trash:/ is the protocol, not the location
[09:58] <flaccid> ty ardchoille
[09:58] <emilsedgh> flaccid: so ardchoille said the location
[09:59] <flaccid> i noticed
[10:00] <rabi> ardchoille: can't find security, in kcontrol. where is that?
[10:01] <ardchoille> rabi:  Security & Privacy
[10:02] <rabi> ardchoille: sorry sir? i am unable to find it? would u please tell me detail?
[10:03] <ardchoille> rabi: Open a terminal and type: kcmshell privacy
[10:04] <rabi> ardchoille did it.
[10:04] <ardchoille> Did you click the Clean Up button?
[10:05] <rabi> ardchoille: yah
[10:05] <ardchoille> rabi: That should clean up a lot
[10:06] <rabi> ardchoille: still not enough I need to free around 7 mb more.
[10:06] <ardchoille> rabi: Then perhaps you need to learn to partition better?
[10:06] <rabi> I know partition.
[10:06] <rabi> but I don't want to damage my system now.
[10:07] <rabi> I have configured it betterly.
[10:07] <ardchoille> rabi: Are there any apps you no longer want and can uninstall?
[10:07] <rabi> oh yah. thank you.
[10:07] <flaccid> you configured it badly
[10:07] <ardchoille> flaccid: Maybe not, he/she may have just filled it up
[10:08] <flaccid> partitioning is part of configuration..
[10:09] <ardchoille> rabi: Another idea is to keep things like tutorials, music files, pictures, etc. on a different partiton or drive. I have two hard drives (hda and hdb) I keep the system on hda and music, pictures, tutorials, etc on hdb
[10:10] <rabi> ardchoille: I am updating kubuntu using 'update-manager -d'. does it work?
[10:10] <flaccid> adept is the gui for kubuntu
[10:10] <ardchoille> rabi: I don't update, I install from cd and I don't use gui's for that anyway since cli is faster
[10:11] <rabi> yah i know, but the process using adept is longer.
[10:11] <flaccid> we support adept here as its #kubuntu
[10:12] <rabi> can I get CD of kubuntu?
[10:12] <ardchoille> !kubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:12] <stdin> !shipit
[10:12] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[10:13] <ardchoille> rabi: See the link stdin posted, shipit is very nice
[10:13] <rabi> I got the cd of 7.04 from shipit.
[10:14] <rabi> again not enough free space. what to do? I removed opera and wxdfast.
[10:15] <ardchoille> rabi: The only thing I can suggest is buy another hd and move some stuff over to it
[10:15] <flaccid> re do it and allocate sufficent space
[10:15] <flaccid> or buy more space
[10:16] <waylandbill> hard drives are ridiculously cheap and worth the effort. :)
[10:16] <rabi> No I have enough space, 5500MB - for root (/) partition, 10 GB - for /HOME partition.
[10:17] <ardchoille> rabi: Even if you get it to work now, you might have problems again later due to fragmentation because the system doesn't have enough space to do housekeeping
[10:17] <flaccid> rabi, which partition are you running out of space on?
[10:17] <rabi> ardchoille: How much space for root partition is needed to run perfectly?
[10:18] <ardchoille> rabi: I don't know, I have 75Gb for /
[10:18] <flaccid> free space wise you only need a few meg on root part
[10:18] <ardchoille> flaccid: few meg? I don't think so
[10:18] <flaccid> um i do. i run linux on few meg spare quite a lot
[10:19] <flaccid> more to the point, how much free space do you actually have rabi. please pastebin df -h
[10:20] <rabi> 891 in / partition
[10:20] <ardchoille> flaccid: lol, http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/39793
[10:20] <flaccid> why do you think your problem is free space rabi?
[10:21] <flaccid> because looking at that. there is no problem with free space
[10:21] <flaccid> 65GB is a lot more than a few megabyte
[10:21] <ardchoille> flaccid: That pastebin is mine, not his
[10:22] <flaccid> i was asking for rabi's
[10:22] <flaccid> isn't he the one with the problem
[10:22] <ardchoille> yes
[10:22] <ardchoille> ignore me :P
[10:22] <flaccid> will do
[10:22] <flaccid> lol
[10:22] <ardchoille> stdin: No! You're a valuable resource to me :)
[10:22] <rabi> ardchoille: I have posted my configuration.
[10:23] <rabi> I have installed ubuntu with XP dual boot
[10:23] <stdin> did anyone hear anything?
[10:23] <webulator70> anyone have a moment to help me with what seems like an uncommon nvidia problem/
[10:23] <stdin> ;)
[10:23] <webulator70> *?
[10:23] <ardchoille> stdin: lol
[10:23] <flaccid> try #nvidia
[10:23] <webulator70> thanks
[10:24] <flaccid> rabi, pastebin df -h
[10:24] <webulator70> i think they ruined the drivers after whats now called glx-legacy
[10:24] <ardchoille> rabi: no offense, but if I were you I'd get rid of XP, it's wasting space on a garbage OS wannabe anyway.
[10:24] <flaccid> no they didn't.
[10:24] <webulator70> i have the same hardware and do the same thing and they wont go anymore
[10:24] <webulator70> ti4200
[10:25] <flaccid> people have the right to choose
[10:25] <flaccid> usually people will have a valid reason for windows :)
[10:25] <webulator70> i do right now
[10:26] <rabi> flaccid: Yah I know, but I have to use it, as my callegues are using it.
[10:26] <webulator70> they say to ask in #ubuntu
[10:26] <webulator70> thing is everyones completely ignoring me there
[10:26] <flaccid> yeah im on your side rabi :)
[10:27] <ardchoille> webulator70: What exactly is the problem?
[10:27] <flaccid> ignoring usually means nobody has an answer for your problem
[10:27] <rabi> And another problem is, the keyboard layout in kubuntu is not working properly to work in nepali language
[10:27] <webulator70> thank you ardchoille
[10:28] <rabi> I wanna ask you another problem. I need to update my kubuntu system into gusty. what is the way
[10:28] <ardchoille> !update
[10:28] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:28] <webulator70> if i install the nvidia driver after a clean install i cant start x anymore, if i install it via the official nvidia dl it wont compile a kernel modual
[10:28] <ardchoille> webulator70: Have you tried following the nvidia tutorial? It has worked for me on over 100 machines.
[10:28] <webulator70> i used to  have the nvidia drivers going on here back on 6.10
[10:28] <stdin> webulator70: tried the -new or -legacy drivers too?
[10:29] <webulator70> yes, ive spent all day going over it
[10:29] <flaccid> webulator70, can you cite the actual problem?
[10:29] <rabi> I need to update kubuntu feisty to gusty.
[10:29] <flaccid> rabi, why?
[10:29] <stdin> rabi: *need*?
[10:29] <ardchoille> webulator70: Which nvidia card do you have?
[10:29] <webulator70> i can give you bits of the error in the log file or something
[10:29] <webulator70> ti4200
[10:29] <flaccid> please pastebin webulator70
[10:30] <webulator70> btw it might be worth noting that i cant seem to even boot with the nvidia drivers in sabyon
[10:31] <flaccid> perhaps you need to update the driver as its kernel specific
[10:31] <webulator70> i tried that i think
[10:31] <ardchoille> webulator70: The ti4200 is listed for the nvidia legacy driver
[10:32] <flaccid> please make sure you are using the right nv driver and pastebin the error log
[10:32] <webulator70> i tried the legacy and non legacy driver
[10:32] <webulator70> just not the new one
[10:32] <webulator70> 96xx is for ti4200
[10:32] <webulator70> apparently
[10:32] <webulator70> sorry if im annoying but whats pastebin?
[10:32] <ardchoille> webulator70: No, you need the legacy driver
[10:32] <flaccid> log, log, log..
[10:32] <flaccid> !pastebin > webulator70
[10:33] <webulator70> the legacy one says its for gf2 and earlier
[10:34] <ardchoille> webulator70:  If either of nvidia-glx-legacy/nvidia-glx-new are installed a dotfile is created in /lib/linux-restricted-modules/ . Even after these packages are uninstalled the dotfile will remain and may frustrate efforts to use the nvidia-glx package.
[10:34] <ardchoille> webulator70: The ti4200 card is listed as a legacy in http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:35] <webulator70> yes its listed under the 96 driver
[10:35] <webulator70> thats what i used
[10:35] <ardchoille> webulator70: where?
[10:36] <webulator70> on that link i was just given
[10:36] <webulator70> its listed under 96
[10:36] <webulator70> the middle driver, not the old 'legacy' one and not the  new 'new' one
[10:36] <ardchoille> webulator70: The 96xx driver and the legacy driver are two different drivers, you need the legacy driver, not the 96xx driver
[10:36] <webulator70> according to that link i need 96
[10:36] <webulator70> legacy is 7x something
[10:37] <webulator70> The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[10:37] <webulator70> then it listes ti4200 and others
[10:37] <ardchoille> webulator70: I have installed nvidia drivers on over 100 machines, if you're not going to listen to someone trying to help you then maybe that's why you have this problem.
[10:37] <webulator70> im listening, i tried both
[10:37] <ardchoille> yes, and you probably have a dotfile causing problems
[10:37] <webulator70> and im just saying, according to nvidias own site, it says 96 is for the 4200, regardless of that i tried both
[10:38] <webulator70> ive formatted several times
[10:38] <webulator70> ive tried both drivers
[10:38] <webulator70> back when ubuntun 6.10 was new this all worked ok
[10:38] <ardchoille> webulator70: No, according to nvidia's own site you need the legacy driver.
[10:39] <webulator70> according to this link i need 96 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:39] <webulator70> according to that link the 71 driver is for gf2 and older
[10:40] <webulator70> the 71 is called legacy
[10:40] <webulator70> atleast in ubuntus repos it is
[10:40] <ardchoille> webulator70: Your card is listed on that page under the section that says "Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases."
[10:40] <ardchoille> at the bottom
[10:40] <webulator70> read a few lines past that
[10:40] <webulator70> it says 96
[10:40] <webulator70> so regardless of what we call it im using the one it says to
[10:41] <webulator70> besides if you use one thats not supported the installer tells you its not
[10:41] <webulator70> it did when i downloaded 100 by accident
[10:42] <ardchoille> webulator70: I'm telling you that you need the legacy driver.
[10:42] <webulator70> oh sorry flac
[10:42] <webulator70> forget 'legacy' for a sec, tell me what version number
[10:42] <webulator70> to clear this up
[10:42] <ardchoille> nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:43] <ardchoille> That's all you need to know for now.
[10:43] <webulator70> i tried that one too i said
[10:43] <webulator70> i tried glx which is for gf3 and 4 and glx legacy for the hell of it
[10:44] <webulator70> ok i pasted it
[10:44] <webulator70> the log
[10:45] <webulator70> 96 is for  the ti400 im sure of it unless nvidia made a major mistake in what they said on that link
[10:46] <ardchoille> webulator70: Forget about the "96" bit, you need the legacy driver
[10:47] <webulator70> i did try that too though
[10:47] <webulator70> same  prob
[10:47] <webulator70> if you want me to try again i will
[10:47] <webulator70> i can paste a log for the legacy one too
[10:48] <ardchoille> flaccid-: he never posted the url for it
[10:48] <webulator70> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38887/
[10:49] <flaccid-> ok
[10:49] <webulator70> skip that part about the 100 version driver, i dl that one by accident
[10:49] <webulator70> i suppose i should have edited that out
[10:49] <gustavo> does anybody knows a rar password recovery for linux?
[10:50] <ardchoille> webulator70: If you install from nvidia's package, you have to reinstall everytime you have a kernel upgrade or the driver will disappear
[10:50] <webulator70> i just formatted then attempted install
[10:51] <webulator70> like 5 times in the last 2 days
[10:51] <webulator70> please disregard line 377 onward
[10:52] <webulator70> [ 3511.717400]  NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 GPU installed in this    system is    [ 3511.717407]  NVRM:  supported through the NVIDIA 96.43.xx Legacy drivers.
[10:52] <flaccid-> i was after xorg.0.log . doesn't matter i gotta run anyway
[10:52] <webulator70> im not being stubborn for nothing, the log even says 96 is for ti4200
[10:53] <webulator70> ok, thanks anyway flac
[10:54] <ardchoille> webulator70: Please go to this page and in the top of it tellme which version is for legacy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:54] <webulator70> for my card exactly " nvidia-glx"
[10:54] <ardchoille> webulator70: no
[10:54] <webulator70> yes!
[10:55] <webulator70> it says there "" nvidia-glx" is 96
[10:55] <webulator70> the log says 96 is for my card
[10:55] <ardchoille> webulator70: then why is your card listed in legacy on nvidia's site?
[10:55] <webulator70> nv site says 96 is for my card
[10:55] <webulator70> its listed as legacy because glx-new doesnt support it
[10:55] <ardchoille> Then our tutorial is wrong
[10:55] <webulator70> but glx still does
[10:55] <webulator70> glx-legacy  does too
[10:56] <webulator70> legacy is 71
[10:56] <webulator70> legacy used to be for it but is now only for gf2 and older
[10:56] <ardchoille> webulator70: and you card is listed on nvidia's legacy list
[10:56] <webulator70> there are 2 legacy lists look carfully
[10:56] <webulator70> ones for 96 and ones for 71
[10:56] <webulator70> 100 is current
[10:56] <webulator70> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:57] <webulator70> on that site
[10:57] <webulator70> there are 3 sets of cards
[10:57] <ardchoille> Ok, I feel you aren't listening and I can't help any futher.. despite installing nvidia drivers on multiple machines.
[10:57] <webulator70> please just hear me out
[10:57] <webulator70> i am listening
[10:57] <webulator70>  i know what im doing
[10:57] <webulator70> please
[10:57] <ardchoille> If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't have any problems, no?
[10:57] <webulator70> dont just assume, this link does indeed show 3 sets of cards, correct?
[10:58] <webulator70> i know to an extent, please just dont assume im clueless
[10:58] <MadAlex>       ?
[10:58] <webulator70> i will attemp the legacy driver of your choice (again) after you hear me out
[10:59] <jussi01> MadAlex: ???
[10:59] <webulator70> alex maybe you can help clear this up
[10:59] <drmartins> Mad Alex,please use utf-8
[10:59] <webulator70> or jussi, im not trying to start a flamewar but i have a dispute wiht someone here about nvidia
[10:59] <webulator70> the driver i mean
[10:59] <webulator70> a prob im having
[10:59] <llutz> !enter | webulator70
[10:59] <ubotu> webulator70: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:00] <jussi01> webulator70: whats going on?
[11:00] <MadAlex> any body way talk on russian?
[11:00] <jussi01> !ru
[11:00] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:00] <webulator70> thank you jussi
[11:00] <drmartins> ubotu    ;))
[11:00] <jussi01> !bot > drmartins
[11:01] <webulator70> ok, i cant install the nvidia driver, ardchoille says i need the glx-legacy driver, i say i need just glx
[11:01] <webulator70> for a ti4200
[11:01] <webulator70> glx-new being the one i cant use
[11:01] <jussi01> webulator70: and ? do either of them work?
[11:01] <webulator70> no
[11:01] <webulator70> 96 and 71 do not
[11:02] <webulator70> also 100 is ofcoarse too new for me
[11:02] <webulator70> even sabyon doesnt let me use the nvidia driver
[11:03] <pillowpants> thanks for the firefox32 install link for amd64
[11:03] <pillowpants> installing ff32 bit on amd64 seems somewhat lame, but the flash situation has been resolved
[11:03] <pillowpants> thinags
[11:03] <jussi01> webulator70: its the 96 driver: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[11:03] <pillowpants> thanks*
[11:03] <webulator70> i did use 96
[11:04] <webulator70> thank you for the confirmation
[11:04] <sreejith> Hai I am using kubuntu after upgrading RAM from 512 MB to 1GB I am not able to access certain sites like php.net , payapl etc. Can anybody pls help me to sort out this problem?
[11:04] <jussi01> webulator70: as you see, it is correct
[11:04] <webulator70> ardchoille wouldnt beleive me that i am to use 96
[11:04] <ardchoille> webulator70: That is the legacy driver
[11:04] <jussi01> webulator70: so he may be wrong. move on
[11:04] <webulator70> its not called legacy thought, 71 is
[11:04] <jussi01> webulator70: there we go.
[11:05] <jussi01> webulator70: this seems to be pointless. can we move on?
[11:05] <ardchoille> webulator70: Regardless of what it's called, you need the legacy driver
[11:05] <webulator70> there are 3 drivers on the repos, ones called glx, one glx-legacy and one glx-new, glx is the one im to use
[11:05] <webulator70> yes we can juss
[11:05] <webulator70> as long as i  confirmed the # the rest is pointless, yes
[11:06] <sreejith> After upgrading my RAM from 512 MB to 1GB I am not able to access certain sites like php.net , payapl etc. Can anybody pls help me to sort out this problem?
[11:06] <kenny> has anyone got GoogleEarth4.0Beta to work
[11:08] <sreejith> after upgrading RAM from 512 MB to 1GB I am not able to access certain sites like php.net , payapl etc. Can anybody pls help me to sort out this problem?
[11:08] <sreejith> pls help me
[11:08] <ardchoille> !patience | sreejith
[11:08] <ubotu> sreejith: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:08] <webulator70> maybe they thought they where being ignored
[11:09] <webulator70> juss did you catch the log file i posted?
[11:09] <jussi01> webulator70: Im working I cant talk right atm
[11:09] <webulator70> ok
 thanks for your comment I may little bit impatient as it is urgent for me. sorry for that.
[11:10] <webulator70> ubotu is a bot, lol
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot, lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <llutz> sreejith: run a memtest for some hours to check RAM
[11:10] <webulator70> ardchoille: shall i try the legacy driver again?
[11:11] <ardchoille> webulator70: Yes, since that's the correct driver for your card
[11:11] <ardchoille> webulator70: But, the best way to do this is via the repos
[11:11] <webulator70> i did it via the repos too
[11:11] <webulator70> i did it via the repos, nvidias downloads, automatix
[11:11] <webulator70> nothing worked
[11:12] <ardchoille> webulator70: Then your systemmay be polluted from all the install/uninstalls
[11:12] <webulator70> i formatted my ubuntu parition in between though
 I tried diffrent RAM like 1GB and two 512MB like that the same problem exist. Will a memtest help me?
[11:13] <webulator70> how do i clear the dot files again?
[11:13] <webulator70> just to make sure im not missing anything
[11:13] <webulator70> i dont want to format again if i can help it
[11:13] <llutz> sreejith: it should
 I tried the same in another machine by upgrading the RAM same thing happands there also
[11:14] <sreejith>  <llutz> I will do that
[11:16] <cps1966> how in the heck do i get this stupid thing to follow order of drives set i bios
[11:16] <webulator70> btw, even the restricted drivers installer gets version 96 for me
[11:16] <webulator70> after a format
[11:16] <cps1966> add backports
[11:21] <webulator70> ardchoille, ok its all cleaned, going to install the ones called legacy now
[11:21] <ardchoille> webulator70: There are things you need to check before you install
[11:21] <webulator70> ok, what should i check?
[11:22] <ardchoille> webulator70: You really need to read the nvidia tutorial
[11:22] <webulator70> i did that, i thought you meant other things
[11:22] <webulator70> brb
[11:22] <ardchoille> webulator70: The tutorial states that you need to check some things before installing. Have you checked on your kernel modules?
[11:25] <webulator70> ardchoille: still the same
[11:26] <ardchoille> webulator70: The tutorial states that you need to check some things before installing. Have you checked on your kernel modules?
[11:26] <webulator70> it cant even compile a kernel module
[11:26] <webulator70> it cant even compile a new one
[11:26] <webulator70> i got rid of the old one
[11:26] <ardchoille> webulator70: You don't need to compile one
[11:26] <webulator70> but it should be able to without errors though right?
[11:27] <ardchoille> webulator70: You keep telling me you read the tutorial yet you keep skipping the first two steps of the tutorial.
[11:28] <ardchoille> webulator70: In order to compile software, you need to install build-essential, did you install that package?
[11:30] <webulator70> are you referring to the nvidia tutorial or ubuntus?
[11:30] <webulator70> like libc?
[11:30] <webulator70> and the kernel source
[11:30] <webulator70> those i did
[11:31] <webulator70> ardchoille: i have libc6 and the kernel source installed yes
[11:31] <ardchoille> webulator70: Installing the nvidia drivers from the repos takes just a few minutes and a few steps. Why do you insist on wasting time with the nvidia downloaded packages?
[11:32] <webulator70> ardchoille: i told you ive done that too
[11:32] <webulator70> ardchoille: directly after a format
[11:32] <ardchoille> webulator70: What is the output of:  apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:32] <webulator70> ardchoille: i get the same error either way
[11:33] <ardchoille> is it installed?
[11:33] <webulator70> is what installed?
[11:33] <ardchoille> read up two of my lines
[11:34] <webulator70> ardchoille: how do i find that?
[11:34] <Theory_> Question. I currently have ubuntu installed.  I am wanting a KDE interface, instead of GNOME. Actually would like to be able to switch between the two at will. Is this a possibility?
[11:34] <ardchoille> Theory_: yes
[11:34] <Theory_> ardchoille, It would be nice, depending on the mood, to be able to do this.
[11:34] <webulator70> Theory: install the kde packages from synaptic
[11:34] <ardchoille> Theory_: To install the kde desktop, run this: sudp apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <Theory_> ardchoille, Is the process difficult?
[11:35] <ardchoille> Theory_: Not difficult, but time consuming
[11:35] <Theory_> ardchoille, after i install it, what is required next?
[11:35] <ardchoille> Theory_: That was a typo
[11:35] <webulator70> on the log in screen you can choose session
[11:35] <Theory_> I know what you meant :)
[11:35] <ardchoille> Theory_: To install the kde desktop, run this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <Theory_> webulator70, At the login screen you can choose, gnome or kde?
[11:36] <ardchoille> Theory_: Just install the packages with that command. Then to switch desktops log out and choose a desktop at the login screen
[11:36] <CharlieKane> hello everyone
[11:36] <webulator70> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic:
[11:36] <webulator70>   Installed: 2.6.22.4-12.3
[11:36] <webulator70>   Candidate: 2.6.22.4-12.3
[11:36] <webulator70>   Version table:
[11:36] <webulator70>  *** 2.6.22.4-12.3 0
[11:36] <webulator70>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted Packages
[11:36] <webulator70>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:36] <Theory_> ardchoille, Well thats not time consuming ;P
[11:36] <webulator70> oops sorry
[11:36] <ardchoille> Theory_: No, but downloading the packages will be :)
[11:36] <Theory_> ardchoille, Ah, I see.
[11:37] <webulator70> ardchoille: you see my output there?
[11:37] <webulator70> it says the kernel module is installed
[11:37] <ardchoille> webulator70: what is the output of uname -r  ?
[11:37] <Theory_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[11:37] <Theory_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:37] <webulator70> ardchoille: where should i paste it, in here?
[11:37] <Theory_> And then an entire list of problems.
[11:38] <ardchoille> webulator70: it should only be one short line
[11:38] <Theory_> any ideas here?
[11:38] <webulator70> ardchoille: its a few lines
[11:38] <ardchoille> webulator70: uname -r is a list?
[11:38] <webulator70> ardchoille: not a list but about 5 lines
[11:39] <Theory_> webulator70, What would cause this error? Any clue?
[11:39] <ardchoille> webulator70: uname -r should only be one short line, here is mine: 2.6.20-16-generic
[11:39] <ardchoille> webulator70: Are you on Gutsy?
[11:40] <webulator70> it does the same thing on both 7.10 and 7.04
[11:40] <CharlieKane> Is anyone familiar with Konversation disconnecting frequently when using internet via a bluetooth dongle, gprs ?
[11:40] <webulator70> ardchoille: it does the same thing on both 7.10 and 7.04
[11:40] <ardchoille> webulator70: Yes, but 7.10 is beta and I don't think I want to open that can of worms
[11:40] <Theory_> CharlieKane, Why, hello there.
[11:40] <Theory_> :)
[11:40] <llutz> CharlieKane: "pppd died inexpectedly"? same here, no clue :(
[11:40] <webulator70> ardchoille: granted
[11:41] <CharlieKane> hello Theory_
[11:41] <ardchoille> webulator70: I was wondering how you got 2.6.22
[11:41] <ardchoille> Now I know
[11:41] <CharlieKane> llutz: ah rite... I have no problems with Konversation myself, trying to see if I can sort this for someone else (he's using xchat, argh)  ;)
[11:42] <matte_> hi there
[11:42] <webulator70> ardchoille :im am on gutsy right now but i wasnt earlier today, i wanted to have bullet proof x because using the commandline over and over to recover the use of x was annoying
[11:42] <Beyer> Hi dudes! : )
[11:42] <matte_> ah, hallo... ist ja deutsch =)
[11:42] <Theory_> ardchoille, Did you see the problem I posted there?
[11:42] <ardchoille> !de
[11:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:42] <Beyer> What program would be the best to watch dvd?
[11:43] <CharlieKane> Beyer: I use Kaffeine usually
[11:43] <emilsedgh> Beyer: kaffeine or kmplayer
[11:43] <matte_> okay, english is okay, too
[11:43] <ardchoille> Theory_: I would suggest running: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:43] <Lynoure> Beyer: different people have different preferences, all that play them seem to play them reliably enough
[11:43] <webulator70> ardchoille: either way, i cant seem to use nvidia drivers on any distro ive tried since 6.10 a year or so ago
[11:43] <webulator70> ardchoille: like i said, even sabayon which is a boot distro that should have it going after it boots
[11:44] <Theory_> ardchoille, Just do what it says, eh? heh.
[11:44] <matte_> i've got a problem here: i installed the vlc-plugin for firefox from apt-get, but in firefox about:plugins it doesn't appear :-(
[11:44] <ardchoille> webulator70: For help with gutsy you need to be in #ubuntu+1. I don't like to help with a beta release but I have gotten the nvidia drivers running in everything since Dapper
[11:44] <matte_> i'm running an amd64 und gutsy-beta...
[11:44] <Beyer> Okay, I tried to open it with Kaffeine, I opened the whole folder with it that contains the dvd-files.. It doesn't work.. So which of the files should I open with the player?
[11:45] <webulator70> ardchoille: if i were to do a clean format now with feisty would you still attempt to help me?
[11:45] <ardchoille> webulator70: yes
[11:46] <webulator70> ardchoille: i dont think its relevant thought because its the same problem with either version but ill do it,
[11:46] <ardchoille> webulator70: I'm curious, have you used automatix or easyubntu?
[11:47] <webulator70> ardchoille: ive used envy, and the restricted driver installer
[11:48] <webulator70> ardchoille: not that i dont appreciate your help here but im really trying to stress this is not a trivial common problem, ive spent days on this
[11:48] <CharlieKane> automatix is unsupported and not recommended
[11:48] <Beyer> .vob, is mpeg. It wont open with any of the players...
[11:48] <ardchoille> webulator70: ok, well I would suggest you learn how to do things yourself rather than relying on someone else's scripts that aren't supported.
[11:48] <ardchoille> CharlieKane: Yes
[11:49] <webulator70> ardchoille: thats always my method but after 5 days asking for help made some sense
[11:49] <ardchoille> webulator70: ok
[11:49] <webulator70> ardchoille: there is no reason why just installing it from the restricted driver app built into ubuntu  should not work
[11:50] <ardchoille> webulator70: Did you use envy before that?
[11:50] <webulator70> ardchoille: basically, i used the repo, formatted, used envy, formatted, used the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com, formatted, and so on  and so forth
[11:51] <ardchoille> webulator70: From the tutorial  "Restricted Devices Manager may not work properly on machines that have previously used third party tools like 'envy' to install previous drivers".
[11:51] <webulator70> ardchoille: yes but how does that come into play if i did a clean install of the os between that
[11:51] <webulator70> ardchoille: i did a complete reinstall of ubuntu every time
[11:52] <webulator70> ardchoille: thats why i asked for help, the monotony is getting to me
[11:52] <ardchoille> webulator70: You did a clean install, then used envy, then noticed the nvidia drivers wouldn't work?
[11:53] <webulator70> ardchoille: first, i did a clean install, then tried ubuntus own restricted driver app thinking it would go, it didnt, then i did a clean install and tried the repos, then i did a clean install and tried envy, then i did a clean install and tried nvidias download
[11:54] <webulator70> ardchoille: see what im getting at here? days of the same thing over and over and no luck
[11:54] <ardchoille> I see
[11:55] <webulator70> ardchoille, i beleive i might have an usual problem here
[11:55] <webulator70> ardchoille: windows is a-ok, i know my hardware is too
[11:58] <webulator70> ardchoille: its kind of weird if you look at my log file there you see that it cant find my geforces irq for some reason
[11:58] <webulator70> ardchoille: it doesnt help that my bios has next to no options on it
[12:01] <webulator70> ardchoille: anymore ideas?
[12:19] <oem> I need help
[12:20] <webulator70> oem: oem, ill try
[12:20] <CharlieKane> sup oem
[12:20] <oem> i cannot run this program because of rgb.txt
[12:20] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38894/
[12:20] <wers> CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found
[12:21] <wers> what can I do?
[12:21] <webulator70> oem: seems out of league, sorry
[12:21] <oem> ok
[12:21] <oem> anybody
[12:21] <CharlieKane> I dunno either oem
[12:22] <CharlieKane> What is 'Player' ?
[12:22] <Jucato> !info stage
[12:22] <ubotu> Package stage does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:22] <Jucato> !info stage gutsy
[12:22] <ubotu> stage: Robot simulation for Player. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.3-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 97 kB, installed size 244 kB
[12:22] <Jucato> wers: whatcha trying to do?
[12:23] <oem> ubotu, thx
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <wers> Jucato: install QTCurve on gutsy
[12:23] <ardchoille> !thanks | oem
[12:23] <ubotu> oem: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:23] <wers> just installed cmake to install it
[12:23] <Jucato> wers: why?
[12:23] <oem> ok
[12:24] <wers> building qtcurve requires cmake, Jucato
[12:24] <Jucato> !info kde-style-qtcurve gutsy
[12:24] <ubotu> kde-style-qtcurve: This is a set of widget styles for KDE3 based apps. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.52.3-1 (gutsy), package size 152 kB, installed size 492 kB
[12:24] <Jucato> wers: ^^^
[12:24] <wers> haha
[12:24] <wers> ok
[12:24] <Jucato> and no, you're most probably building QtCurve for KDE4
[12:24] <wers> KDE3 only
[12:25] <Jucato> can you point me to the source of the source code?
[12:25] <Jucato> but anyway, you can install from the repos. save you the headache :P
[12:25] <wers> kde-apps
[12:25] <wers> yeah
[12:25] <wers> hehe
[12:25] <Jucato> link plese?
[12:25] <Jucato> please*
[12:26] <wers> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QtCurve+(KDE4,+KDE3,+&+Gtk2+Theme)?content=40492
[12:26] <wers> I meant, kde look
[12:26] <wers> I always face problems with installing stuff with fresh installs of (k)ubuntu
[12:27] <Jucato> maybe because you try compiling first? :)
[12:27] <emilsedgh> Jucato: is there any application that people want and is not packaged yet?
[12:27] <oem> I do nott know what to insatl
[12:27] <Jucato> emilsedgh: hm.. tastymenu for one
[12:27] <Jucato> wers: can you tell me what's the file name of the QtCurve tar.gz you downloaded?
[12:28] <emilsedgh> Jucato: thanks, let me try it :)
[12:28] <Jucato> wers: nvm
[12:28] <wers> Jucato, the one for KDE 3
[12:28] <Jucato> yeah saw it
[12:28] <Jucato> yeah seems like the new version moved to CMake :)
[12:29] <wers> What themes do you prefer btw, qtcurve, plastik, and...?
[12:29] <Jucato> domino
[12:29] <Jucato> that one you have to compile
[12:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: it has ubuntu (feisty and gutsy) package :)
[12:29] <Jucato> and there's no GTK equivalent
[12:29] <wers> didn't you mention lipstik, Jucato?
[12:29] <Jucato> emilsedgh: oh I thought you meant official Ubuntu packages
[12:30] <Jucato> ew. no
[12:30] <wers> While I was looking to Gutsy's sources.list, I saw a "partner" repo.. Is that new?
[12:30] <emilsedgh> Jucato: no, so soon to try that ;)
[12:31] <Jucato> wers: partner?
[12:31] <wers> yep
[12:31] <wers> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[12:32] <Jucato> ah canonica
[12:32] <Jucato> canonical
[12:32] <stdin> that repo doen't seem right to me
[12:32] <Jucato> ditto
[12:32] <stdin> should be RELEASE-commercial
[12:33] <Jucato> and even gutsy-commercial doesn't even exist
[12:33] <stdin> that too :)
[12:33] <Jucato> wers: you have a weird system
[12:33] <wers> 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
[12:33] <Jucato> must be new
[12:34] <stdin> well, it doesn't exist as far as I can tell
[12:34] <ali> ali
[12:34] <CharlieKane> yeah Ive never heard of that before
[12:34] <wers> Jucato, aren't you running gutsy?
[12:34] <ali> kesi inja irani hast?!
[12:34] <Jucato> I am. but I installed since Tribe 5
[12:34] <Jucato> !ir
[12:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.
[12:34] <stdin> !away > CharlieKane|away
[12:35] <Jucato> too late :P
[12:35] <jarkko> Anyone done upgrade from feisty to gutsy? I did, and I had to reinstall bunch of backages with apt-get install --reinstall. These included kopete, openoffice etc. To make them work.
[12:35] <stdin> damn :p
[12:35] <emilsedgh> ali: man hastam :)
[12:35] <Jucato> !ohmy | stdin
[12:35] <ubotu> stdin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:35] <stdin> wers: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/partner/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:35] <Jucato> :D
[12:35] <ali> ubutu 7.10 key miad?!
[12:35] <stdin> Jucato: oh, I meant "darn" :p
[12:35] <ali> ubuntu!
[12:35] <Jucato> !ir | ali
[12:35] <ubotu> ali: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast.
[12:36] <wers> stdin, I don't know but that's what my sources.list said
[12:36] <Jucato> wers: you have a weird system <-- I repeat :)
[12:36] <emilsedgh> ali: please speak English here :)
[12:36] <stdin> wers: well -commercial isn't included by default anyway
[12:38] <wers> hmm.. is there a medibuntu repo for gutsy?
[12:38] <wers> didn't see one in source-o-matic
[12:39] <Jucato> maybe it hasn't been updated yet?
[12:39] <Jucato> !source-o-matic
[12:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:41] <Jucato> wers: ah of course... it only includes official repos + the ones Seveas trusts (owner of that site)
[12:41] <Jucato> which is practically just opera and beryl
[12:42] <wers> Jucato, last time I checked, there was medibuntu for feisty in source o matic
[12:42] <Jucato> perhaps there isn't one for gutsy yet
[12:42] <Jucato> anyway bbl
[12:43] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38894/
[12:43] <oem> what package
[12:45] <BennieMan>  anyone here use superkaramba?
[12:45] <emilsedgh> BennieMan: I do :)
[12:45] <BennieMan> emilsedgh great
[12:46] <emilsedgh> BennieMan: how could i help?
[12:46] <BennieMan> i use backtrack2. and when i strat it, i see nothing
[12:46] <BennieMan> i mean, it tells me is running, but i cant see it
[12:46] <BennieMan> on the desktop
[12:46] <arun> does wmode=opaque not work in flash-based websites in linux?
[12:47] <emilsedgh> BennieMan: you have to add widgets to it
[12:47] <BennieMan> emilsedgh is built in already in the backtrack 2
[12:47] <arun> as in, if i look at websites with flash in linux, the flash overlaps other stuff (like dropdown menus) even if wmode = opaque. that doesn't happen with other operating systems... even firefox on windows/mac shows the website correctly, but firefox on linux doesnt
[12:47] <BennieMan> i have it in the menu and everything
[12:47] <arun> any way to fix this?
[12:47] <emilsedgh> BennieMan: so i dunno :)
[12:48] <BennieMan> k :)
[12:49] <cash> hello
[12:49] <cash> please tell me ,how can check what the type of memoryI have ?
[12:49] <ardchoille> arun: I have searched and searched and I haven't found a way to fix that flash prob
[12:50] <cash> I mean DDR or DDR-II
[12:50] <arun> ardchoille: damn.. that's not nice at all
[12:50] <ardchoille> arun:  Yeah :(
[12:51] <cash> ardchoille hepl me please ?
[12:52] <balaji> hello
[12:53] <balaji> jhbjk
[12:53] <ardchoille> cash: I don't know how to find that
[12:53] <cash> =(
[01:00] <cash> !ru
[01:00] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:05] <wers> is there a kde gui frontend for opensync?
[01:05] <ozehka> hey uga, today it can't start the xserver....
[01:06] <emilsedgh> wers: i think theres something named kitchensync, and im not sure its a frontend for opensync
[01:06] <ozehka> so i reinstalled nvidia-glx, but still it doesn't work
[01:06] <ozehka> too bad, that i can't neither find drivers for my graphic card on the nvidia page...
[01:06] <Alp`> i'm searching for good backup solutions for my home-linux. it should support incremental save of data and easy to recover if my system crashes. does anybody knows something that could help me?
[01:07] <ozehka> how is the browser called which can be runned in terminal?
[01:07] <_yeo_> lynx#
[01:07] <_yeo_> lynx
[01:07] <ozehka> ty
[01:08] <_yeo_> np
[01:10] <ardchoille> ozehka: Which card do you have?
[01:10] <ozehka> ardchoille: geforce 4 mx
[01:10] <ardchoille> ok
[01:15] <ozehka> hm, i tried nvidia-xconfig but still i can't get in
[01:16] <ardchoille> !info nagois
[01:16] <ubotu> Package nagois does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:16] <ardchoille> !info nagios
[01:16] <ubotu> Package nagios does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:20] <chaosmaster> does anyone have a Samsung syncnaster 755dfx monitor?
[01:20] <chaosmaster> looks as i have shotgunned my Xserver with trying to install the driver...:(
[01:24] <ozehka> a basic question: if a command produces a very long output, how can i 'scroll' through it?
[01:25] <ozehka> well i could > into a file and then view the file.. other ways?
[01:27] <ardchoille> ozehka: command | more
[01:27] <_yeo_> do this
[01:27] <_yeo_> command | more
[01:27] <_yeo_> or
[01:27] <_yeo_> command | less
[01:27] <ardchoille> or less
[01:27] <ozehka> thanks
[01:29] <_yeo_> np
[01:29] <wers> I'm thinking up of configuring MySQL or PostgreSQL for amarok. Which one do you prefer?
[01:29] <_yeo_> i use sql lite
[01:29] <_yeo_> seems to work fine for me
[01:29] <_yeo_> have a library of about 50GB
[01:29] <hcbox> how can i know my refresh rate ?
[01:30] <_yeo_> count the screen flickers ;)
[01:30] <ardchoille> lol
[01:30] <_yeo_> hcbox: go into system settings and head for the display settings
[01:30] <wers> I have about 25 GB
[01:30] <_yeo_> it should be there somewhere
[01:30] <wers> and it is soo slow
[01:30] <_yeo_> hmm. sys spec?
[01:31] <hcbox> _yeo_: t claims my refresh rates is 50hz
[01:31] <_yeo_> then there you have it :)
[01:31] <hcbox> _yeo_: i want 60hz :D
[01:31] <_yeo_> is your monitor capable of it?
[01:31] <hcbox> for sure
[01:32] <_yeo_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:32] <hcbox> 1920x1200@60hz is native
[01:32] <_yeo_> run through that and you should be able to specify
[01:32] <_yeo_> yeah. you can spec resolutions and ref rates in the xserver config program
[01:32] <_yeo_> just run that command
[01:33] <hcbox> i tried once, maybe it will works... i know there is a time for refresh rate...
[01:33] <_yeo_> i would run this first tho : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf
[01:33] <ardchoille> Yeah, backup.. good idea
[01:34] <_yeo_> you can edit the xorg.conf file manually. but its alot less of a headache to use dpkg
[01:35] <ardchoille> hcbox: And after you're done with reconfigure, you need to restart xorg
[01:35] <_yeo_> yeah
[01:35] <_yeo_> ctrl + alt + backspace
[01:35] <_yeo_> (make sure all ur stuff is saved tho or it asplodes)
[01:36] <hcbox> yeah
[01:36] <hcbox> i'm at the refresh section
[01:36] <ardchoille> hcbox: Be aware that restarting xorg will kill your desktop, including konversation
[01:36] <hcbox> ardchoille: i know ... but i have little problems to uderstand how works refresh line
[01:36] <hcbox> cause i have 28-96 for horizontal refresh
[01:36] <_yeo_> if something goes funked up you should really connect back here from a tty (ctrl alt and f1) using irssi
[01:37] <hcbox> what does it means ?
[01:37] <ardchoille> hcbox: What monitor (make and model) do you have?
[01:37] <hcbox> 2407-HC :D
[01:37] <hcbox> Dell 24"
[01:38] <wers> how come I cannot open kcontrol with katapult? on katapult, I tried "kcontrol" and "k control," but no app comes out
[01:39] <jpnurmi> any ideas what could be the reason for apache2 not getting automatically started on reboot in kubuntu 6.10? /etc/default/apache2 contains NO_START=0 and /etc/init.d/apache2 is +x
[01:39] <ardchoille> wers: kcontrol (no space)
[01:40] <wers> kcontrol does not come out as well
[01:40] <_yeo_> wers. launch it via alt + f2
[01:40] <_yeo_> hcbox: any joy?
[01:40] <ardchoille> hcbox: Is this your? http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=320-5647
[01:41] <hcbox> _yeo_: still 50Hz
[01:41] <wers> _yeo_ alt+f2 works, but I just want to use katapul for all the launching, but if I can't got to settle with run command
[01:41] <_yeo_> ok have you tried setting it higher in the system settings now that you have run that command?
[01:42] <hcbox> _yeo_: for sure in administration > display setting ... but still 50hz value appears
[01:44] <hcbox> _yeo_: i noticed the framerate is higher more the resolution decrease
[01:44] <_yeo_> you mean refresh rate?
[01:44] <hcbox> yeah
[01:44] <hcbox> sorry for the mistake
[01:45] <_yeo_> np. just trying to keep it clear
[01:48] <_yeo_> well im not sure how to fix that one
[01:48] <emilsedgh> anyone knows how could i install python's qt sql classes?
[01:49] <_yeo_> emilsedgh: you talking python programming?
[01:49] <emilsedgh> _yeo_: yes
[01:49] <_yeo_> i think you are in the wrong channel mate
[01:49] <emilsedgh> _yeo_: i know, just asked :)
[01:49] <_yeo_> usually though. you put the .py file containing the classes in side the path that python is reading them from
[01:50] <_yeo_> then you just include them in your code
[01:50] <_yeo_> cant remember exact syntax. has been a while since i played with python
[01:50] <hcbox> _yeo_: i tried medium option and choose 1920.1200@60Hz and nothing changes ...
[01:50] <emilsedgh> _yeo_: no, i mean the pyqt's sql classes...
[01:51] <_yeo_> and you reset the x server after each try?
[01:51] <_yeo_> ah i think thats probably over my head
[01:51] <fkm> Hi there. Does someone know, where I can find the file that contains my hosts on Kubuntu?
[01:52] <fkm> Or is this Apache specific?
[01:52] <_yeo_> fkm: /etc/hosts
[01:52] <fkm> Thank you! :)
[01:52] <_yeo_> fkm: np
[01:56] <_yeo_> hcbox: and now?
[01:56] <hcbox> _yeo_: nop
[01:57] <hcbox> rolling some pot & cooking pizza to forget this shit :D
[01:57] <stdin> !language | hcbox
[01:57] <ubotu> hcbox: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:58] <hcbox> stdin: sorry, just the usual way for french to claim their frustration
[02:05] <_yeo_> hcbox: i thought that the french used cigarettes to calm their frustration
[02:13] <hcbox> _yeo_: everybody smoking joint in France, thats the truth
[02:14] <hsystem-x> Go kubuntu Offtopic, this ia support channel.
[02:14] <hsystem-x> is* a
[02:19] <puppetmaster> hello everyone
[02:19] <puppetmaster> i was hopping that anyone helping me with my problem
[02:21] <_yeo_> puppetmaster: hey,. whats the problem?
[02:21] <puppetmaster> I have an intel945g itegrated graphical card
[02:21] <puppetmaster> it didn't work clearly at the first
[02:21] <puppetmaster> but i modified xprg.cong
[02:21] <puppetmaster> and it worked
[02:21] <puppetmaster> but when i play any vedio
[02:21] <puppetmaster> the colours is not good
[02:22] <puppetmaster> What should I do my friends?
[02:22] <_yeo_> ok. what colour depth is it set to?
[02:22] <puppetmaster> 16
[02:22] <_yeo_> ;) set it to 24
[02:22] <puppetmaster> when I do that it gets worth
[02:23] <puppetmaster> So
[02:23] <_yeo_> what driver is it using?
[02:24] <puppetmaster> i810 i guess
[02:24] <_yeo_> have you tried using the vesa driver?
[02:25] <puppetmaster> tell me how and i will do what you say
[02:25] <_yeo_> run this from konsole
[02:25] <puppetmaster> and the answer is no I didn't use that driver
[02:26] <_yeo_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <puppetmaster> ok
[02:26] <_yeo_> that will open a config screen for xserver (display system)
[02:27] <puppetmaster> yes
[02:27] <puppetmaster> what should i choose?
[02:27] <puppetmaster> vesa?
[02:28] <_yeo_> yeah try that
[02:28] <puppetmaster> and the rest of the configuration
[02:29] <puppetmaster> Should I agree to all or I 'd change?
[02:29] <dasnipa> shun the unbeliever, shun!
[02:29] <_yeo_> you know the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor yes?
[02:29] <puppetmaster> Amount of memory (kB) to be used by the video card???????
[02:30] <analfabeta> hi
[02:30] <administrator> hi
[02:30] <_yeo_> its an integrated card yes?
[02:30] <puppetmaster> yes
[02:30] <analfabeta> why kubuntu and ubuntu have to many diferences ? ubuntu gutsy will have many news, but kubuntu dont. why?
[02:30] <analfabeta> =/
[02:31] <_yeo_> do you know how much RAM that it uses for video
[02:31] <_yeo_> (integrated graphics share some ram)
[02:31] <puppetmaster> 64 mega
[02:31] <puppetmaster> should I write 64
[02:31] <puppetmaster> ?
[02:31] <_yeo_> ok so 64 x 1024 = 65536
[02:32] <puppetmaster> i should write 64000 kb because it's kb?
[02:32] <_yeo_> 65536 KB
[02:33] <puppetmaster> Rather than communicating directly with the video hardware?? y or n
[02:33] <puppetmaster>  Use kernel framebuffer device interface? y or n
[02:33] <_yeo_> try no for now
[02:33] <puppetmaster> ok
[02:33] <_yeo_> sometimes either works. sometimes only one does
[02:33] <_yeo_> ok. one other thing
[02:34] <puppetmaster> what is it?
[02:34] <_yeo_> if this breaks when you reset the x server you will need to access a text based terminal (press ctrl + alt+ f1)
[02:34] <_yeo_> and run this command
[02:34] <_yeo_> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <_yeo_> then reset the x server
[02:34] <_yeo_> (write it down)
[02:34] <puppetmaster> ok
[02:35] <puppetmaster> Autodetect keyboard layout?
[02:35] <puppetmaster> yes
[02:35] <_yeo_> the command to reset the x server is : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:35] <dasnipa> or alt-backsp
[02:36] <puppetmaster> or I can press ctrl+alt+brackspace
[02:36] <_yeo_> yes, ctrl+alt+backspace if you are in the GUI
[02:36] <puppetmaster> right
[02:36] <_yeo_> if you are in the tty i think you need the command
[02:36] <_yeo_> (might be wrong tho)
[02:36] <puppetmaster> ok my friend
[02:36] <_yeo_> i have to go for now. good luck
[02:36] <puppetmaster> thanks
[02:36] <puppetmaster> bye
[02:41] <jykiv>  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/env
[02:41] -jykiv:#kubuntu-  http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/env
[02:43] <dasnipa> !ops
[02:43] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[02:43] <RytmenPinnen> is it normal to have more than 100 processes running and less then 8megs free memory of 512?
[02:43] <RytmenPinnen> Sysinfo for 'ladan': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ at 2004 MHz (4012 bogomips), HD: 88/111GB, RAM: 497/503MB, 108 proc's, 3.20h up
[02:44] <dasnipa> ljl, what did jykiv just do?
[02:44] <LjL> dasnipa: spammed with a CTCP
[02:44] <dasnipa> LjL: and changed the topic with some french site
[02:45] <LjL> dasnipa, no, he didn't change the topic. type /topic
[02:45] <dasnipa> stdin just changed it back
[02:45] <LjL> oh wait, he did...
[02:45] <LjL> yes sorry
[02:45] <LjL> what the heck
[02:46] <administrator> 7name bla
[02:50] <juaco> is there a eclispe 3.3 for *ubuntu??
[02:51] <juaco> sorry wrong room
[03:03] <GuHHH> bye
[03:15] <mike> kubuntu upgrade failed and now db is locked, how can I restart it?
[03:15] <genii> !aptfix
[03:15] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:16] <genii> mike: Then re-run the upgrade
[03:16] <mike> k trying now
[03:17] <oem> can anyone help my
[03:17] <oem> ??
[03:17] <hsystem-x> or just ps -ef|grep USER-NAME-HERE
[03:17] <hsystem-x> then kill do a kill pid  , where pid is the process id (apt one)
[03:17] <genii> oem: If you describe your problem someone may be able to assist
[03:19] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38907/
[03:19] <oem> here is
[03:19] <oem> i can not open this program
[03:20] <juacom99> anyone know if netbeans download from netbeans.org for linux is compatible with *ubuntu?
[03:23] <mike> oko now it fails for kipi dependencies. I try to run theversion upgrade now and adept crashes
[03:25] <mike> adept does show 1197 packages upgradeable.. should I just upgrade those?
[03:26] <wersdaluv> what version are you using, mike?
[03:26] <wersdaluv> kde 3.5.7?
[03:26] <mike> feisty, yes 3.5.7
[03:26] <mike> and feisty and 3.5.7 is up tp date
[03:27] <wersdaluv> recently, I just upgraded KDE 3.5.7 apps
[03:27] <wersdaluv> Jucato said that there were patches
[03:27] <wersdaluv> what are those apps, btw? all of them are kde apps?
[03:27] <Jucato> mostly kdebase
[03:27] <mike> lemme look
[03:27] <Jucato> you can check in Adept for the changelogs
[03:28] <mike> looks like everything..
[03:29] <Jucato> updates I mean
[03:29] <mike> I checked the repo settings in adept it shows all the gutsy repos in 3rd party..
[03:30] <Jucato> why would you have gusty repos there?
[03:30] <mike> I waas running the version upgrade when it crashed
[03:30] <Jucato> ah ok
[03:30] <Jucato> so you're upgrading to gutsy
[03:30] <mike> yes
[03:31] <mike> all the files were downloaded and there was a failure in teh installation
[03:31] <Jucato> now it won't upgrade anymore? "kdesu adept-manager --version-upgrade" ?
[03:31] <Jucato> oh..
[03:31] <Jucato> (tricky..)
[03:31] <mike> so the db wasa locked
[03:31] <Jucato> !adeptfix | mike
[03:31] <ubotu> mike: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:31] <mike> I unlocked it then ran dpkg --configure -a and it ran for a while but then failed
[03:32] <Jucato> run it again?
[03:32] <Jucato> um.. you are aware that gutsy is still beta right? usualy beta disclaimers?
[03:33] <mike> now adept shows (bottom left) install 136, upgrade 1193, remove 9. and 1549 installed 1197 upgradable
[03:33] <mike> yup I am aware of the usual beta disclamers
[03:33] <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends"
[03:33] <mike> but this is the first time I have tried the upgrade trick, usually fresh install except for /home
[03:33] <Jucato> or haveyou tried --version-upgrade again?
[03:33] <Jucato> yeah I find upgrades to be tricky...
[03:34] <mike> version upgrade just crashes immediatly
[03:34] <Jucato> oh dear...
[03:34] <uga> ozehka: sorry, I was away
[03:34] <Jucato> try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --install-recommends" from Konsole... not sure if Adept would be of any help right now...
[03:34] <ozehka> uga: np
[03:35] <uga> ozehka: did you solve the problem? why didn't it start up?
[03:35] <uga> any errors in the command line when running X :1 &
[03:35] <uga> ?
[03:35] <mike> hmm... the install-recommends fails with the same dependency stuff, talking about feisty and circle dependencies..
[03:36] <Jucato> mike: can you use pastebin to show the errors please?
[03:37] <mike> a bunch of unresolved and circular dependencies
[03:37] <mike> ok
[03:37] <Jucato> !pastebin | mike
[03:37] <ubotu> mike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:38] <mike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38912/
[03:39] <mike> should I run install-recommends with the -f o[ption
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> "Photoshop reported imports it OK but corrupts some internal tables during the process. ImageMagick barfs on it."
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> what does barfs means?
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> i didn't find that in the dictionary, sorry, help me:)
[03:41] <Jucato> mike: um.. just a guess, maybe you could disable all feisty repos if you have gutsy ones already there?
[03:42] <mike> I wondered if I could put my old repo file in place and try the version upgrade again?
[03:42] <Jucato> mike: you could probably try disableing the gutsy repos and doing that
[03:43] <Jucato> but it might have started installing things already.. not really sure
[03:43] <mike> well I guess I've nothing to loose, might just have to reinstall all but /home again..
[03:45] <sander_> is there a kde pager which works well with compiz?
[03:46] <Jucato> mike: I wish you the best of luck!
[03:46] <mike> thanks
[03:46] <mike> I'll report
[03:48] <george> i have an older IBM Thinkpad Pentium 3 500 that gives the error invalid compressed format Kernel panic-not syncing with Ubuntu, and Kubuntu but Xubuntu will load
[03:48] <george> does Ubuntu and Kubuntu recognize that the hardware is to old?
[03:50] <DaEmOnIcUs> hi all. I want to make a script to run at kde startup , after beryl and beryl-manager have started. i want it to have this command "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:50] <Jucato> DaEmOnIcUs: make the script executable and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:51] <DaEmOnIcUs> Jucato that's what i am asking. I don't have an idea of shell scripting.If you can say me the command in the script
[03:51] <DaEmOnIcUs> and how to save it
[03:52] <DaEmOnIcUs> thanx anyway
[03:52] <flokuehn> Jucato: but how does he tell kde to execute the script after starting beryl?
[03:52] <Jucato> scripts are ordinary text files anyway
[03:52] <Jucato> flokuehn: that I don't know :)
[03:52] <DaEmOnIcUs> i will give it a shot
[03:52] <flokuehn> Jucato: ok
[03:53] <flokuehn> Jucato: this will be interesting
[03:53] <Jucato> not sure if it follows alphabetical order :0
[03:53] <rjune_> can anybody point me to a HOWTO on modifying .debs?
[03:54] <Jucato> rjune_: modifying how?
[03:54] <Jucato> what do you mean
[03:54] <rjune_> I've got a patch for jabber to allow it to auth via PAM, but I want to modify the existing jabber package.
[03:55] <Jucato> um.. .deb package are compiled binaries. you can't apply patches to it
[03:55] <Jucato> you'll have to grab the source code package, and compile it yourself or make a .deb out of it
[03:55] <rjune_> *sigh*. no but you can modify the source package and build it
[03:55] <Jucato> you can modify the source package, but a .deb doesn't contain source code
[03:56] <darktyco> this might be obvious, but is compiz fusion the default window manager in kubuntu gutsty? I know it is in ubuntu but I haven't see it explicity stated for kubuntu anywhere
[03:56] <Jucato> it's not the default, not in Ubuntu, not in Kubuntu
[03:56] <Jucato> it's installed, but not enabled by default
[03:57] <Jucato> at least on ubuntu. (not sure on Kubuntu)
[03:57] <darktyco> ah, I thought it would be enabled by default if it detected that it could run
[03:57] <genii> Jucato: Autostart order is same method as init.d or so. things are executed in alphabetical or numerical order. So a then b then c    etc etc
[03:57] <darktyco> otherwise it would default back to metacity
[03:57] <Jucato> darktyco: not really sure. that could be true for Ubuntu. but not for Kubuntu (yet?)
[03:58] <Jucato> genii: probably. last I tried it didn't but what the heck :)
[03:59] <darktyco> Jucato: k, thanks. my feeling was that since I had not found any explicit information on it for kubuntu that it was the case.
[03:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> darktyco: that seems to be the way it's going for gutsy, though
[04:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu, not kubuntu (afaik)
[04:00] <Jucato> no compiz-fusion installed by default on Kubuntu
[04:01] <ardchoille> Jucato: yay!
[04:01] <Jucato> feel free to install it from the repos :)
[04:01] <ardchoille> heh, no way
[04:01] <Jucato> I did say, feel free :)
[04:02] <Jucato> if you don't feel it, don't :P
[04:02] <darktyco> hehe, maybe later
[04:02] <Jucato> darktyco: mostly the reason is that the KDE integration of Compiz sucks a bit
[04:02] <darktyco> thanks for the info though
[04:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> a bit?
[04:02] <ardchoille> lol
[04:03] <khaije> Jucato: doesn't it though... bah!
[04:03] <emilsedgh> YetAnotherReasonToWaitForKDE4
[04:05] <darktyco> I would personally rather use kde4 rather than compiz, but apparently in gutsy there won't be either so I'll just stop thinking about it ;)
[04:07] <khaije> what is kompmgr?
[04:07] <ozehka> uga: I installed the drivers from the nvidia site and now it works again
[04:07] <ozehka> uga: I'll notify u if I get core dumps again ^^
[04:08] <Jucato> khaije: the built in compositing manager for kwin in KDE 3
[04:08] <Jucato> it's not a polished as much, but does ok for transparencies and shadows
[04:08] <khaije> Jucato: it's a windows manager?
[04:09] <Jucato> khaije: Kwin is the KDE window manager
[04:09] <Jucato> kompmgr is  a part of kwin that manage compositing (translucency, shadows)
[04:09] <Jucato> it's labeled as experimental though
[04:10] <Braiam> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kompmgr/index.html
[04:10] <khaije> oh like a plugin?
[04:10] <emilsedgh> Jucato: was kwin the first compositing enabled wm?
[04:10] <Jucato> no. it's built into kwin
[04:10] <Jucato> emilsedgh: OS X's :)
[04:10] <aggelos> hi  all is there a good manual how to enable beyl-manager and emarald to kde ?
[04:11] <emilsedgh> Jucato: really ? didnt know it..., but what in linuxland?
[04:11] <Jucato> !beryl | aggelos
[04:11] <ubotu> aggelos: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:11] <khaije> i didn't realize kwin was capable of any hw accel composting... it always seems to be sw rendered
[04:11] <Jucato> emilsedgh: enlightenment most probably
[04:11] <emilsedgh> gh
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> or xfce
[04:12] <Jucato> xfce?
[04:12] <Jucato> doesn't even have compositing yet
[04:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> it did when i used it
[04:13] <khaije> neither do blackbox, and many others
[04:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> and that was a while back (end of last year, beginning of this year)
[04:13] <Jucato> hm.. it did?
[04:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> was available in edgy
[04:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> not compiz, and none of the really fancy effects, but it handled shadow and transparency fairly well
[04:14] <ellipsys> Morning ladies and gentlemen.
[04:15] <ellipsys> Mostly gentlemen I'm sure
[04:16] <ellipsys> is anyone upgraded to the beta and using an ATI card?
[04:17] <tsdgeos> ellipsys: me
[04:17] <tsdgeos> hi :-)
[04:18] <ellipsys> Are you using the fglrx driver, and if so did the upgrade fubar all your settings?
[04:18] <tsdgeos> ellipsys: i'm using the fglrx driver provided by ubuntu, not self installed
[04:18] <tsdgeos> updating went "as good as one can expect from ubuntu"
[04:18] <ellipsys> Ahh all right. I'm using the same one as well.
[04:18] <tsdgeos> ellipsys: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2007/09/kubuntu-gutsy-issues.html <-- my thoughts
[04:19] <ellipsys> tsdgeos: Thanks. I'll read over.
[04:21] <oem> which kubuntu to download?
[04:21] <oem> 7.04
[04:21] <oem> or 7.10
[04:21] <oem> what does it means i386
[04:21] <oem> .iso
[04:21] <flokuehn> i386 is the cpu architecture
[04:22] <flokuehn> you want to download the 7.04.iso
[04:22] <Riddell> mike: where did your upgrade fail?
[04:22] <ellipsys> oem: 7:10 is beta right now and just came out.  I'd suggest running 7.04 until 7.10 is finalized
[04:22] <ellipsys> Unless you want to muck about in beta software of course.
[04:22] <ellipsys> i386 is probably what you want.
[04:23] <ellipsys> and .iso is a type of disc image. You can burn it to disc using K3b easily.
[04:23] <flokuehn> or any other burning programm
[04:23] <flokuehn> but you habe to choose "burn iso" from the menu
[04:23] <flokuehn> that is really important
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> also may be called "burn cd image"
[04:24] <flokuehn> thats it
[04:25] <ellipsys> Is there anyone here who has configured ubuntu as somewhat of a NAS server?
[04:26] <wersdaluv> Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[04:26] <wersdaluv> what could that mean?
[04:27] <Jucato> wersdaluv: try running apt-get update again
[04:27] <Jucato> sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <Jucato> might be a server problem
[04:27] <wersdaluv> ok
[04:28] <genii> ellipsys: If you are having a dedicated box for this might be better to look at embedded distribution of FreeNAS
[04:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[04:29] <Jucato> how
[04:29] <genii> BluesKaj: :)
[04:31] <BluesKaj> hi Jucato genii ,I recently did a standard adept update of some apps, but now i have apps auto-opening at logon ...how do i prevent this ?
[04:31] <Jucato> close them before you logout
[04:31] <BluesKaj> I do
[04:31] <Jucato> (if you have setup session management to restore from previous session)
[04:32] <ellipsys> genii: I've thought about that... I'm actually using OpenFiler at the moment but I'm none too happy with it.  Would FreeNAS be better? Initially I chose openfiler because it was linux based instead of BSD
[04:33] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what apps would these be?
[04:33] <genii> BluesKaj: I haven't seen that effect yet. Maybe look in the Autostart for ones that shouldn't be there
[04:34] <BluesKaj> well, the problem is the pc won't shutdown if i chose the normal logout , so I do the ctrl,alt,bkspce , then shutdown from the login screen
[04:34] <Jucato> BluesKaj: that doesn't save the session
[04:35] <genii> ellipsys: I'm using FreeNAS on a mixed OS network of (k)ubuntu,FBSD, MacOS 9.2 and Windows 2K, works extremely well
[04:35] <genii> ellipsys: Not having used Openfiler i couldn't give a comparative review
[04:36] <genii> BluesKaj: Ah. Maybe put in kernel load line of menu.list option acpi=force
[04:38] <ellipsys> genii: That's good to hear. The only thing I'm worried about is how to migrate over to FreeNAS and all.
[04:41] <genii> ellipsys: If you have data on openfiler stored on some separate HD than the system install, it simplifies things
[04:41] <BluesKaj> where genii after this line ? : title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic it's the first uncommented line in the grub/menu.lst
[04:41] <poison--> mornin guys
[04:41] <genii> BluesKaj: Just after splash if it exists
[04:42] <ellipsys> genii: I have a separate HDD for the OS, yes.
[04:42] <BluesKaj> no splash genii
[04:43] <genii> ellipsys: You can also install FreeNAS to run from a USB key or so (takes only 32Mb), so running it that way to test it out first could be an option
[04:44] <genii> BluesKaj: the line that starts with: kernel   /bott/vmlinuz-something     at end of that one
[04:44] <BluesKaj> ok genii thx
[04:44] <genii> BluesKaj: That may help with the shutdown issue, the apps autostarting maybe we tackle after that :)
[04:45] <Jucato> the autostarting apps could probably be solved if session management properly saves
[04:45] <Jucato> hm.. or manually saved :P
[04:45] <Jucato> but he left
[04:45] <Jucato> so genii, you tell him :)
[04:46] <genii> Jucato: He'll be back, i'm sure LOL
[04:47] <genii> poison--: no, nightmares of being chased by broken computers
[04:47] <ellipsys> genii: It can run as a sort of "live CD" from the USB key, without affecting the data on the storage hard drives?
[04:47] <poison--> lmao
[04:47] <poison--> hey Jucato
[04:47] <genii> ellipsys: Yes
[04:48] <ellipsys> Ahh okay. Great. I'll have to give that a try.
[04:49] <ellipsys> It may be a better solution. OpenFiler seems extremely laggy on the shares, especially with SMB. They only work in Konq, not even smb4k
[04:49] <ellipsys> Not much faster in Windows either
[04:50] <genii> ellipsys: Well, almost every network filesystem/sharing suffers from lag. NFS is sometimes horrible for this.
[04:50] <s> does anyone know why my external harddrive is being detected as an 'unmounted removable medium?'  do i just have to mount the drive to be able to access it, or, should it normally be plug n' play?
[04:52] <genii> s: What filesystem is on it?
[04:53] <genii> s: normally the system will try to automount known filesystems
[04:53] <flokuehn> genii: did you try to mount it manually
[04:53] <flokuehn> ?
[04:53] <s> genii: the filesystem is ntfs
[04:54] <poison--> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9076 <---- how sweet
[04:54] <flokuehn> genii: sorry i meant s
[04:54] <ellipsys> genii: DO you know what file system FreeNAS uses? Is it like ext3 or something?
[04:55] <ellipsys> poison--: Nifty
[04:55] <poison--> :D
[04:55] <genii> ellipsys: Mine wanted to use the UFS, but i specified ext2 instead
[04:56] <ellipsys> genii: Ahh, it gives you that option? Or is that some conf file editing wizardry?
[04:56] <genii> s: If you need to write to it you will need some tool like ntfs-3g
[04:56] <genii> ellipsys: It has a weg control interface, i set that from there :)
[04:56] <genii> *web
[04:57] <genii> !ntfs | s
[04:57] <ubotu> s: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:57] <s> genii:  i don't want to write, only read.  any ideas?
[04:57] <genii> s: See above link for read only
[04:57] <s> oh thanks for the link
[04:57] <s> :)
[04:58] <ubuntu_> oi/
[04:59] <ubuntu_> oi
[04:59] <oem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38920/
[04:59] <oem> can anybody help me
[04:59] <oem> plizz
[05:00] <s> just state the question oem and see if anyone can
[05:00] <flokuehn> oem: what are trying to do
[05:00] <ellipsys> genii: Thanks, I'll see about giving it a try.  Would you (or anyone else) happen to know about dual booting (k)ubuntu x64 and Vista x64? Like which should be installed first and whatnot? I remember a tutorial that said to install Windows first, but I was always taught that linux comes first?
[05:00] <oem> run this program on player
[05:01] <oem> stage
[05:01] <genii> ellipsys: I trust the grub manager more than the vista boot manager so i would put vista on first like previous ways of dual-boot with windows/ubuntu
[05:01] <ubuntu_> pssssssss
[05:01] <oem> it says error while loading shared libraries
[05:02] <ubuntu_> ppp
[05:02] <LjL> ubuntu_ that's spam and it's unwelcome
[05:02] <wersdaluv> edgy and feisty detected my scanner, but gutsy beta doesn't..it worked with kooka before...
[05:02] <wersdaluv> what can I do?
[05:02] <ellipsys> genii: Understood.  I'm assuming the support for 64 bit k/ubuntu is pretty comperable with standard 32 bit?
[05:02] <LjL> bad assumption i'd say
[05:03] <genii> ellipsys: IRC support is same as 32 bit , some known issues with 64 bit version like plugins under FireFox and some others
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> java, flash, wine, some emulators, codecs. lets see what else....
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> actually i think java is fixed now.. :)
[05:04] <ellipsys> All that? Bloody hell...  I hate to let 4gb of RAM go to waste on the box that will be built today but I don't want severely crippled functionality..
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Your Mileage may vary. :)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> whats more imporntant.. enterainment? or getting work done that NEEDS that much ram.. :)
[05:05] <tommymann> is there a way to have firefox installed twice
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> a lot of it can get working in the 32bit chrooted stuff...
[05:05] <genii> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure if enabling >4Gb and recompile kernel still under 32bit works
[05:05] <BluesKaj> genii, that acpi=force did the trick
[05:05] <BluesKaj> thx
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> tommymann  ive used some of the  autopackage/clik things to install it just for a single user.
[05:05] <genii> BluesKaj: Good :)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> genii no idea. Ive noticed that most new machines  (gateway ect) top out at 3gb anyway. :)
[05:06] <tommymann> so can a single user have two firefoxes installed?
[05:06] <genii> BluesKaj: were you able to exit and save session, eliminationg the autosarting issue?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> tommymann  proberly can. if you compiled it from source. should be doable. :) but not sure of any othe rways.
[05:06] <ellipsys> Without any modification, how much of that 4gb will regular 32bit Kubuntu see?
[05:07] <BluesKaj> genii, I'l try that ...brb
[05:07] <tommymann> I've only dealt with firefox from source once, it doesn't have a make file or any of the jazz I'm used to
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> yep. i hear it can be a bit complex.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Mighty want to clarify WHY you are wanting 2+ firefox's..
[05:08] <ellipsys> I heard that *nix will see more than windows due to better addressing. Windows basically put a cap on it or some such?
[05:08] <genii> ellipsys: My Feisty sees all 4Gb on my home box without alteration, anything more i think it would ignore
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> ellipsys windows has the 32bit/64bit issues also.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i think the limit is for OVER 4gb ram.. like genii said..
[05:08] <tommymann> I want to put one firefox with my stumble upon and stuff that's tied to the kde wallet, and another one for just general browsing
[05:09] <tommymann> I want one more secure than another
[05:09] <tommymann> and I don't really want two profiles so I can make the more secure one terminal access only
[05:10] <tommymann> by the way, can you make it where an application won't open without the wallet
[05:10] <ellipsys> Genii and Dr_Willis - I'll just use 32bit Feisty (or Gutsy beta) then.
[05:10] <tommymann> or without sudo like adept
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> I see no reason to use 64bit for most people.
[05:11] <genii> tommymann: Why not use the firefox profile manager to make a profile for each type of browsing instead?
[05:11] <tommymann> because then it alerts people to that there is another profile
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> make a 2nd user. su to that user. :)
[05:12] <ellipsys> Well thank you for your help, (especially Genii and Dr_Willis) but I have to get going for awhile. Take care!
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Alertrs people? ya only got 1 account?
[05:12] <tommymann> yeah
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> how lame is that.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:12] <tommymann> well I've never needed more than one before
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> You just mentioned Other people? You now have us all very confused....
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Sounds like you are doing backflips for some trival things.. :)
[05:14] <tommymann> My lady friend is moving in, and I don't want her to find my porn
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> make her an account.
[05:14] <tommymann> and I don't want her looking for it
[05:14] <tommymann> she's wiley
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> thats what a multiuser system is all about.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> thers dozens of ways to lock down accounts.
[05:15] <genii> tommymann: Looking into a solution
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> and secure stuff from casial filesystembrowsing.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> chmode your porn dirs so her user cant get into them.
[05:15] <tommymann> Well I use X rated stumble upon
[05:15] <tommymann> instead of actually downloading anything
[05:16] <tommymann> well the internet makes it private and easy
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> the point is one does not really need a web browser to get porn. :) but have fun.
[05:17] <Tm_T> hey
[05:17] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[05:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:17] <tommymann> well thanks for the help
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> and one of th reasons for a multiuser system - is to let her have her own account/setup and leave your account/stuff alone.
[05:17] <tommymann> she has her own computer
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> this 2 firefox/profiles/stuff is just a lot of complex work.
[05:18] <tommymann> it's just for when she reaches over and borrows mine
[05:18] <Tm_T> tommymann: perhaps talk about this with your girl, really
[05:18] <tommymann> ha
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> sounds like social engineering to me...
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:19] <genii> tommymann: Old (1.5 series but perhaps helpful) http://dojotoolkit.org/node/209
[05:19] <tommymann> oh well I was just looking to see if anyone had quick fixes
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> get a DasKeyboard. and tell her to stay Off your pc.. :)
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> set your screensaver to 1 min. and password protect it. :0
[05:20] <genii> tommymann: There is a linux sript equiv, lemme find it
[05:21] <ozehka> wget-question: when i load the url in browser, it redirects me to the file, so i can download it...
[05:21] <ozehka> if i use it in wget it would just load the html...
[05:21] <genii> Or you could adapt the cygwin one
[05:23] <genii> bah work interrupts :( AFK
[05:25] <harmental> hey guys..ive found this kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade" in the upgrade tuto....
[05:26] <harmental> should it be kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"??
[05:26] <fdoving> harmental: yes, probably.
[05:27] <harmental> fdoving: thx
[05:29] <Jucato> harmental: kdesu adept-manager --version-upgrade
[05:29] <Jucato> follow the instructions in the link from the Beta annoucnement page
[05:30] <harmental> it doesnt work....
[05:30] <harmental> jucato: if if remove the quotation marks i get:
[05:30] <harmental> kdesu: Unknown option '--version-upgrade'.
[05:31] <Jucato> sorry forgot the put the quotation marks
[05:31] <Jucato> harmental: kdesu "adept-manager --version-upgrade"
[05:31] <Jucato> but it's --version-upgrade not --dist-upgrade
[05:31] <harmental> Jucato: that doesnt work either....
[05:31] <Jucato> what does it say?
[05:32] <Jucato> did  you enable Pre-released updates?
[05:32] <harmental> adept_manager: Unknown option '--version-upgrade'
[05:32] <harmental> Jucato: yep
[05:32] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[05:33] <harmental> ive been trying this tuto for an hour now....
[05:33] <harmental> Jucato: maybe i am missing some particular repo?
[05:34] <Jucato> maybe... not really sure... sorry
[05:42] <Aranel> how can I use .psd files in Kubuntu ?
[05:44] <genii> Aranel: I'm pretty sure gimp can import them
[05:45] <emilsedgh> Aranel: could gimp open it? maybe...try it
[05:45] <martijn> Aranel: aren't those photoshop files?
[05:45] <Sanne> Aranel: psd is a proprietary format, so it may be that not everything works.
[05:45] <Aranel> oh, ok, i'll try it :)
[05:46] <yeo__> Aranel: you can also try running PS via wine
[05:46] <Braiam> gimp can open psd files
[05:46] <Braiam> but I remember that it does not recognizes layers
[05:46] <Braiam> only a flat image from merged layers
[05:48] <xenol> can someone tell me plz if i want to run beryl do i have to have xgl installed?
[05:49] <Jucato> !beryl | xenol
[05:49] <ubotu> xenol: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:50] <martijn> xenol: not for compiz, so i guess not for beryl either
[05:50] <martijn> not that i have much experience.... beter visit the channel Jocato proposed
[05:50] <martijn> Jucato, oops
[05:50] <Jucato> !tab | martijn
[05:50] <ubotu> martijn: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:50] <Jucato> :)
[05:51] <martijn> Jucato: i know :)
[05:51] <Jucato> easier to avoid typos :)
[05:51] <Jucato> :P
[05:51] <martijn> thanks anyways
[05:51] <Jucato> hehehe
[05:51] <martijn> hehe
[05:51] <martijn> hmm, i am gona continue writing my docbook
[05:51] <Braiam> A little question about this chat. Is this any official user support chat, or just a community chat. I just open konversation and this channel was open
[05:51] <poison--> this is the CHAT :D
[05:52] <poison--> and yes, the official support chan
[05:52] <martijn> but it is community based and for free
[05:53] <genii> Braiam: #kubuntu channel is for kubuntu support, #kubuntu-offtopic for general talk
[05:53] <genii> Braiam: Same for the other variations, ubuntu, xubuntu etc
[05:54] <Braiam> does it means that theres always somebody officially in charge of this chat?
[05:54] <Jucato> yes
[05:54] <Jucato> even in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:54] <Jucato> !guidelines
[05:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:55] <genii> Braiam: There are IRC channel ops around always to make sure channel rules are adhered to
[05:55] <Jucato> and make sure that genii has his recommended daily dose of kaffeine
[05:56] <Braiam> thanx. those guidelines are what i was searching for
[05:56] <Sanne> Braiam: you'll find a lot of Ubuntu related channels here as well as some more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:57] <unperson> Is it possible to compose an HTML message with inline images using kmail?
[06:03] <emiliano> gfffffffff
[06:11] <melody> Hello
[06:11] <melody> Question... I was looking through the software repos in Kubuntu (tribe5) and couldn't find frostwire or limewire.  Is there something else that Kubuntu people are using in place of these apps?
[06:12] <harmental> Jucato: me again....could you please share with me your sources.list?
[06:12] <Jucato> harmental: I'm already on gutsy. does that matter?
[06:12] <Jucato> !frostwire | melody
[06:12] <ubotu> melody: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:12] <harmental> thats fine...
[06:12] <Jucato> hold on
[06:12] <harmental> thx!
[06:13] <melody> thank you
[06:13] <Jucato> harmental: http://jucato.org/stuff/sources.list
[06:14] <melody> well.. awesome.  frostwire.com is borked.   Can't download, as the website is coming up all goofy
[06:14] <harmental> thank you very much!
[06:15] <melody> can anyone else check and see if they can get onto frostwire.com without issue?
[06:16] <deviance> I have installed the nvidia drivers, which should work with my 7300gs, but they diddn't, Im gonna try again, how can I do this?
[06:17] <Jucato> melody: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ';' in /home/frostwir/public_html/includes/config.php on line 17
[06:17] <deviance> Hi Jucato
[06:17] <david___> sdfnseigj0wegnwe
[06:17] <melody> okay.. that's what I was getting.   Oh well.
[06:17] <david___> gegbuwno0ibhegbwoibgeoigbig
[06:17] <Jucato> hi deviance
[06:17] <david___> sorry
[06:17] <david___> god bye
[06:17] <Jucato> david___: splease stop that
[06:18] <Arkard> hi guys, have you ever heard about megaupload?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> melody, konq browser shows it too Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ';' in /home/frostwir/public_html/includes/config.php on line 17
[06:19] <Arkard> who here want a premium Account for 3 months?
[06:19] <melody> any ideas on where to snag the frostwire.deb otherwise?
[06:20] <Jucato> !offtopic | Arkard
[06:20] <ubotu> Arkard: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:20] <deathguppie> well.. that's it for me boys.. I think I'm done with Kubuntu.. it's been fun, but not as practical as I'd hoped.. moving back to a source based distro..
[06:20] <BluesKaj> melody, there's gotta be some mirrors  , check on http://www.google.com/linux
[06:21] <Jucato> deathguppie: um.. ok... O.o
[06:21] <BluesKaj> deathguppie, sorry to hear that,but some patience is required
[06:22] <Jucato> and I bet you have lots of it, since you seem to have come from a source based distro (gentoo?)
[06:23] <BluesKaj> melody, http://sourceforge.net/projects/frostwire
[06:23] <deviance> Is it not in the Reppos Melody?
[06:24] <Jucato> frostwire? nope
[06:24] <deathguppie> I think Kubuntu is a great distro.. it's just that I actually use some applications and there is just to much broken stuff on Ubuntu/Kubuntu.. and well.. compiling on this platform is such a pain..
[06:25] <Jucato> well, it is meant to be a binary distro... so compiling isn't as natural as it is on Gentoo
[06:25] <Jucato> but what broken stuff?
[06:25] <Jucato> and which version are you testing?
[06:25] <melody> deviance: nope. frostwire isn't in the repos for some reason
[06:25] <deathguppie> My breaking point is when I couldn't find a decent linear video editor..
[06:25] <Jucato> kino?
[06:25] <deviance> Oh, shocking
[06:25] <BluesKaj> hmm repos seem to be down in ca
[06:25] <deviance> !kino
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Jucato> !info kino
[06:25] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[06:26] <deathguppie> Kino is a joke.. no offense but talk about lack of features..
[06:26] <deviance> :(
[06:26] <Jucato> !info kdenlive gutsy
[06:26] <ubotu> kdenlive: A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[06:26] <deathguppie> kdenlive is decent but kubuntu's version won't render your project
[06:26] <Jucato> gutsy?
[06:26] <deathguppie> Jahshaka is not available..
[06:26] <deviance> melody: what about Gtk-Gnutella?
[06:27] <deviance> Its in the reppos
[06:27] <deviance> I used it for a bit, but never likes Lime or frost anyway
[06:27] <Jucato> deathguppie: true. dunno it's probably harder to provide and maintain binary packages than ebuilds... probably
[06:29] <deathguppie> I use blender a lot, so I can use the compositor in that to edit video.. but the sound was atrocious .. as a matter of fact I could never get jackd to run under kubuntu properly for any applications.. though I believe blender uses.. sdl
[06:30] <deviance> I couldnt get jackd to work either, I wanted ardout soo bad
[06:30] <melody> deathguppie: well...  I'm a professional video editors (have been for the past 15 years) and ..well.. our company is highly linux based, but we do have to resort to VideToaster [4]  in our suite.. (winblows only)
[06:31] <deathguppie> melody: well actually blenders compositor is pretty damn good, but it doesn't have a lot for sound. It will let you edit the sound but will only render it as a seperate file..
[06:32] <melody> errrm.. are we talking about the 3d app?
[06:32] <deathguppie> melody: yes
[06:32] <melody> weird
[06:32] <deathguppie> I know, but it actually has a pretty good compositor built in.
[06:33] <harmental> jucato: i've tried everything the tuto says...Step-by-step...with your sources.....and it still doesnt work....i dont know what else to do.......
[06:33] <harmental> any ideas?
[06:33] <Jucato> sorry
[06:33] <jussi01> harmental: what are you trying to do?
[06:34] <harmental> jusi01...i am trying to upgrade to gutsy beta.....
[06:34] <harmental> and it all fails when i do kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[06:35] <harmental> i get adept_manager: Unknown option '--version-upgrade'.
[06:35] <jussi01> !tab | harmental
[06:35] <ubotu> harmental: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:35] <deathguppie> melody: besides the built in linear editing system you can also composite and render video through nodes allowing for things like chroma key and image manipulation..
[06:36] <deathguppie> Blender is very, very versitile..
[06:37] <jussi01> harmental: have you asked in #ubntu+1
[06:37] <jussi01> harmental: have you asked in #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <deathguppie> it also renders out in Cineon, OpenEXR, Radiance HDR, DPX, NTSC, PAL, ... etc..
[06:39] <harmental> jussi01: nop.....
[06:39] <melody> deathguppie: I'll have to take a closer look at that app.  I mean.. I was very impressed with just the 3d aspects of it
[06:39] <harmental> i guessed that since this is already beta...this is channel to go...
[06:40] <jussi01> !gutsy | harmental
[06:40] <ubotu> harmental: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <deathguppie> melody: I recommend it ;)
[06:40] <salsero> hi my kubuntu doesnt boot. i need your help.
[06:41] <MrDuck> salsero: what's the problem? :P
[06:41] <xenol_> should be my xgl be laggy after i launched it?
[06:41] <salsero> MrDuck, my kubuntu boots till the kubuntu logo. after that nothing happens (u can answer also in german)
[06:42] <melody> sweet
[06:43] <BluesKaj> !de | salsero, MrDuck
[06:43] <ubotu> salsero, MrDuck: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:43] <salsero> MrDuck, after alt+f1 i see: trying to resume from /dev/disk....   no resume image,doing normal boot
[06:44] <salsero> i donot get help in the german channel. i would be glad if u can helb me here
[06:45] <salsero> yesterday i have installed something like kde-dev
[06:50] <MrDuck> sry was cooking my dinner,wellnot many ideas,isn't it failing after some fsck?
[06:50] <kaminix> Where ought I install Java if I install it manually from Sun's website? Can I make my apps use that Java and not download any from the repos?
[06:51] <dudemeister> hiho, i think i have some problems with a gtk application (zattoo player), it does not draw the contents of the window, and only works when i use the --sync option. any ideas?
[06:57] <sven_oostenbrink> I am using ssh to connect to various servers. Sometimes, most of the times, connecting takes about .5 seconds,but sometimes it can take up to 30 seconds.. the servers have the same hardware and same OS, why does it take so long to connect sometimes??
[06:59] <snowdonkey> Does anyone know the PHP package for XSLT?
[06:59] <theory_> Question.  My touchpad on my laptop is too sensitive.  I wish to disable 'tap to click'...little help?
[07:00] <sven_oostenbrink> I am using ssh to connect to various servers. Sometimes, most of the times, connecting takes about .5 seconds,but sometimes it can take up to 30 seconds.. the servers have the same hardware and same OS, why does it take so long to connect sometimes??
[07:00] <knub> stdin: hi! :)
[07:01] <snowdonkey> Nevermind, it's php5-xsl
[07:02] <MrDuck> oh my,guys,was running an app under wine,then killed it but sound from it keeps playing,any idea how to shoot it?
[07:03] <MrDuck> nvm got it :-)
[07:04] <tim_> hi
[07:04] <tim_> Which 3d desktop effects doi install?
[07:04] <tim_> compiz or beryl?
[07:06] <jussi01> !compiz | tim_:
[07:06] <ubotu> tim_:: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:10] <tim_> how do i make my clock trum from 13-9 to 1  pm
[07:11] <hsystem-x> right click clock
[07:11] <hsystem-x> click date & time format
[07:11] <tim_> and? then?
[07:11] <hsystem-x> on the section times & dates
[07:12] <hsystem-x> change time format to pH
[07:12] <tim_> yes i did and nothig changed
[07:12] <hsystem-x> then apply.
[07:12] <hsystem-x> then restart your desktop
[07:13] <tim_> log out then come back?
[07:14] <tim_> ok now it works cool
[07:14] <hsystem-x> ok.
[07:14] <tim_> how do i make not to display the year only month  and date
[07:15] <tim_> ok cool i figured out
[07:18] <tim_> how do i mount  img. files?
[07:18] <tim_> what app do i use?
[07:21] <ghostcube> hi maybe here someo9ne can help in #kde theire strange
[07:21] <zaza> Salut
[07:22] <ghostcube> i need to know how i can get this  on any distribution $(kde_datadir)
[07:22] <ghostcube> i need it for kiba-dock to parse the kde icon themes
[07:22] <ghostcube> and mime types
[07:22] <ghostcube> i dont get it through the developer page may someone can help
[07:22] <tzanger> trying to b uild the sample test application in kdevelop and it's saying that /lib/cpp fials the sanity check... am I missing something obvious?
[07:23] <tzanger> aha
[07:23] <tzanger> C++ compiler might help
[07:26] <Sanne> tzanger: build-essential istalled?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> and proverly need a dozen+ other -dev files as well.
[07:28] <ghostcube> i need to know how i can get this  on any distribution $(kde_datadir) to load kde icon themes to kiba-dock
[07:28] <ghostcube> :|
[07:28] <ghostcube> noone ?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> check in #KDE
[07:29] <Dr_willis> thats some sort of system variable. kde has some tools that show what its set to.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> its possible kibadock is using some wrong location.
[07:31] <ghostcube> Dr_willis: kiba isnt using kde so far
[07:31] <ghostcube>  i want to bring it in
[07:31] <ghostcube> it uses gtk search icon
[07:31] <ghostcube> in kde no one answers me
[07:31] <ghostcube> since 30 minutes or so
[07:31] <ghostcube> :|
[07:31] <ghostcube> i must get the path to the kde datadir so i can load the icons from it
[07:31] <ghostcube> :|
[07:33] <tim_> How do i create an ISO of a CD that i have??
[07:34] <emilsedgh> tim_: with K3B
[07:34] <emilsedgh> tim_: go and write the cd, but check 'Only Create Image' checkbox
[07:35] <tim_> whrer \e do i find k3b in the menu?
[07:35] <ghostcube> multimedia
[07:36] <tim_> how do i keep the old package of fuseISO and not upgrade it ? and dont get an upgrade message all th  time?
[07:37] <tim_> do u know?
[07:37] <tim_> hello
[07:38] <tim_> how do i set some file not to upgrade and keep an old version of it?
[07:38] <emilsedgh> tim_: if someine knows, will answer, please do not repeat
[07:38] <tim_> ok
[07:42] <tim_> !ubuntu
[07:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:42] <tim_> !desktop effects
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop effects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <LjL> !effects
[07:42] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:43] <Dr_willis> you can 'dd' a cd to an .iso file real fast also. :)
[07:44] <tim_> How do i isntall desktop effects for kubuntu 7.10 ?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> well its not rel4eased yet. so no support yet for it. Id say search the package manager and install the kde-compiz thing i just noticed. :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> but thats all i know on the topic
[07:45] <Dr_willis> compiz-kde - OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator
[07:45] <sstchur> I'm trying to get drivers working for my nVidia GeForce 7300.  Searching through adept, I see a number of options, but I'm not sure which to choose: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new?  Something else?
[07:45] <ghostcube> for compiz may join #compiz-fusion
[07:46] <ghostcube> we can help if needed
[07:46] <Dr_willis> sstchur,  i always install/run the 'restricted-manager' tool and let it handle it.
[07:46] <Dr_willis> sstchur,  you proberly want the nvidia-glx-new, the !nvidia wiki page has info
[07:46] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:46] <sstchur> Dr_willis: ah, ok.. .I'm not familiar with that... is there a howto on that?
[07:46] <ghostcube> Dr_willis: maybe u got an idea u the omly one seeming nooing some things helpful
[07:46] <ghostcube> in kde still no answer
[07:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:48] <sstchur> Dr_willis: thanks!  THe instructions point to (what seems to be) gnome specific instructions.  How to access Restricted Drivers Manager in KDE?
[07:48] <emilsedgh> sstchur: feisty?
[07:48] <Dr_willis> sstchur,  'use the shell luke'
[07:48] <emilsedgh> sstchur: feisty has no restricted manager :)
[07:48] <Dr_willis> :)  install the package.. run it from the shell
[07:48] <sstchur> emilsedgh: yes, feisty
[07:49] <sstchur> emilsedgh: oh, so what do I do then?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive been installing restricted-manager under feisty for ages.
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !find restricted-manager
[07:49] <ubotu> Found: restricted-manager
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[07:49] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:49] <ghostcube> feisty simply do apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)
[07:50] <sstchur> Dr_willis: so another thing that is a little weird.  I tried downloading and running a setup utility from nvidia's site.  It seemed to work (I was running Beryl) until I rebooted, at which time I got a blank screen, and had to resort back to my old xorg.conf file (w/o the nvidia drivers). Any ideas why that'd be?
[07:50] <tim_> How to make a shortcut like cntr+shift to switch between the languages?????
[07:51] <Dr_willis> sstchur,  in short DONT use the installers from nvidia site, dont use envy, or automatix either. :)
[07:51] <ghostcube> Dr_willis: on 8800 gt
[07:51] <Dr_willis> i never use them so cant tell ya more then somthing/version/other messed up. :)
[07:51] <ghostcube> u must use run file
[07:51] <Dr_willis>  for an 8800 - i would say use gutsy.
[07:51] <ghostcube> its not in glx-new ion feisty
[07:52] <ghostcube> bah
[07:52] <ghostcube> :)
[07:52] <Dr_willis> dont fight with the older drivers. :)
[07:52] <ghostcube> install .19 drivers by run
[07:52] <ghostcube> it works
[07:52] <ghostcube> good
[07:52] <Dr_willis> (guess what i just installed on today) :)
[07:52] <ghostcube> the .14 sux
[07:52] <Dr_willis> ghostcube,  you hold sstchur 's hand then and show him. :)
[07:52] <LjL> tim_: K / System Settings / Keyboard & Mouse / Keyboard Shortcuts / Type "key" in the search box
[07:52] <ghostcube> nope lol
[07:53] <ghostcube> sstchur: for ure 7300 u need glx-new on feisty
[07:53] <bigleon> Hey everyone
[07:53] <ghostcube> sstchur:  apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <bigleon> I got a question, bout a program called MusicIP and setting up a "JAVA_HOME"
[07:53] <ola_g> 
[07:54] <ghostcube> but for all never uise the 100 drivers with compiz if not needed :) for the moment
[07:55] <ghostcube> hmm Dr_willis is ther an dev chan for kde ?
[07:55] <ghostcube> maybe hey can help me to get the icion thing
[07:55] <rjune_> ghostcube: #kde-devel
[07:55] <ghostcube> thx
[07:55] <sstchur> ghostcube: ok, so the fact that I've /already/ used  nvidia's installer mean I'm screwed?  How do I "undo" it? (other than reverting back to my old xorg.conf ?
[07:55] <emilsedgh> ghostcube: #kde4-devel #kde-devel :)
[07:55] <poison--> anyone eva had issues with nvidia NICs wont connect to adsl ppoe?
[07:55] <ghostcube> sstchur: --uninstall
[07:55] <ghostcube> behinf the run file
[07:56] <ghostcube> emilsedgh: thx i need both i think kiba should work on kde 4 too
[07:56] <sstchur> ghostcube: ok, I'll give that a try.  So exit X? Uninstall the nvidia setup thing, atp-get nvidia-glx-new ... and then restart?
[07:56] <ghostcube> sstchur:  apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-drivers-$(uname -r)
[07:56] <ghostcube> then rstartz yes
[07:56] <sstchur> ghostcube: ok
[07:56] <emilsedgh> ghostcube: :)
[07:56] <sstchur> alright, i'll try and let you know how it goes
[08:01] <aco_> hello..
[08:02] <Dr_willis> i dont think uninstalling it is that easy.. :) but i got to go to work now. byeeee
[08:03] <sea4ever> erhm, no help with finding a graphics driver? I have a trident Cyberblade card...
[08:03] <tim_> Guys plz help MY monitor got cUTEd in half!! when i went to confirure monitors...
[08:03] <aco_> Any experienced programmer here that could give me some advices? I want to program a window application but i don't really know how to with linux..any guides on this for Linux? or if its desktop set(kde, gnome, xfce?)
[08:03] <tim_> what do i do??
[08:04] <tim_> ??
[08:05] <ghostcube> sstchur: ?
[08:05] <ghostcube> emilsedgh: thx i got the answer i wanted
[08:05] <ghostcube> :)
[08:05] <emilsedgh> ghostcube: nice, kde devs helped? they always do :P
[08:05] <sstchur> ghostcube: well, I'm in KDE and things are running, but I'm at 1024x768... in systems settings it indicates the driver I"m using is "nv"
[08:06] <ghostcube> sstchur: ok now it beginbs
[08:06] <ghostcube> post ure xorg.conf to pastebin.ca
[08:06] <ghostcube> hehe
[08:06] <rickey> which kaffeine plugin is need to play dvd movies
[08:06] <ghostcube> u wanna have fusion too ? lol trhen we can go through all
[08:06] <sstchur> ghostcube: i want everything!  I will post the xorg.conf.. one sec
[08:07] <ghostcube> ok
[08:07] <poison--> <rickey , sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[08:07] <rickey> which kaffeine plugin is needed to play dvd movies?
[08:08] <poison--> read above
[08:08] <rickey> ok
[08:08] <sstchur> ghostcube: http://pastebin.ca/718778
[08:10] <ghostcube> sstchur: i edit and post back
[08:10] <ghostcube> fastzer
[08:10] <phoenixz> Does anybody know why connecting to a server with ssh can sometimes take like 30- 60  seconds??
[08:10] <rickey> Reading package lists... Done
[08:10] <rickey> Building dependency tree
[08:10] <rickey> Reading state information... Done
[08:10] <rickey> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:10] <rickey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:10] <rickey>   j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depends: j2re1.4 but it is not going to be installed
[08:10] <rickey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:10] <rickey> rickey@home:~$
[08:10] <rickey> what went wrong
[08:10] <sstchur> ghostcube: ok
[08:10] <ghostcube> what resolution u ned ?
[08:11] <LjL> !java
[08:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:11] <LjL> rickey, i think you should simply install sun-java6-jre
[08:12] <rickey> ill try
[08:12] <jereme_> is there a way for me to look behind kubuntu's graphical boot screen?  when I boot in safe-mode I'm fine, but when I boot normally, I'm stuck
[08:12] <sstchur> ghostcube: 1680x1050
[08:12] <Xeross> can someone help me with installing kubunty
[08:12] <Xeross> kubuntu*
[08:13] <LjL> !install
[08:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:13] <LjL> jereme_, try Alt+F1
[08:13] <LjL> jereme_: or, to see what's being loaded, probably Alt+F8. or Alt+somethingelse.
[08:14] <Xeross> thx
[08:14] <ghostcube> sstchur: http://pastebin.ca/718788
[08:14] <tim> How do i edit  xorg?
[08:14] <ghostcube> backup ure old one
[08:15] <ghostcube> tim: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:15] <ghostcube> or with xorg-edit
[08:15] <SlimeyPete> tim: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:15] <SlimeyPete> well, sudo nano
[08:15] <jereme_> no dice on the alt+f8
[08:16] <jereme_> none of the f-keys + alt get me there as far as I can see
[08:16] <rickey> ok it,s downloading
[08:16] <SlimeyPete> jereme_: try ctrl+alt
[08:17] <tim> hwo do i save changes in taht??
[08:17] <SlimeyPete> ctrl+alt+f2 , etc
[08:17] <jereme_> k
[08:17] <sstchur> ghostcube: so is mostly what you did, just add the screen sections to increase the resolution, or was there other stuff too?
[08:17] <SlimeyPete> tim: vi, or nano?
[08:17] <Xeross> do i need to install ubuntu before installing kubuntu ??
[08:17] <SlimeyPete> Xeross: no
[08:17] <Xeross> k
[08:17] <ghostcube> sstchur: other stuff
[08:17] <ghostcube> at the end
[08:17] <ghostcube> at modul
[08:17] <ghostcube> and at screwen
[08:17] <hsystem-x> Xeross, no
[08:17] <ghostcube> :)
[08:17] <ghostcube> take mine
[08:17] <Xeross> what is the username of the installation cd
[08:18] <rickey> sun-java6-jre boy thats a big download
[08:18] <tim> how do i manually idetify my Monitor?
[08:18] <SlimeyPete> tim: look in the manual, on the back of the monitor or do a google search
[08:18] <rickey> tim i just look at it
[08:18] <rickey> he he he he
[08:18] <SlimeyPete> then enter the settings into your xorg.conf accordingly
[08:18] <sstchur> ghostcube: what all did you change? (so I can start to learn this better)
[08:19] <rickey> sorry guy,s i cloudnt resies
[08:19] <BluesKaj> tim, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/monitor/configure
[08:19] <tim> ok and then ? where doi put the numbers down?
[08:19] <SlimeyPete> !xorg
[08:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:19] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[08:20] <ghostcube> i changed modules
[08:20] <ghostcube> i removed dri
[08:20] <ghostcube> and marked 12c bitmap
[08:20] <tim> yeah but it is Not on the list!! what do i do?
[08:20] <ghostcube> and changed ddc tp dbe
[08:20] <SlimeyPete> tim: sorry, I can't remember but if you google for a tutorial, there are plenty around
[08:20] <sstchur> ghostcube: ok, I'm gonna try restarting
[08:20] <ghostcube> in screen
[08:20] <ghostcube> :)
[08:21] <tim> i don't know how to identify the monitor
[08:21] <tim> i habe acer AL1951
[08:21] <SlimeyPete> tim: you'll be wanting to put the horizontal and vertical refresh rates in, but I can't remember the exact syntax
[08:22] <SlimeyPete> tim: so go check the manufacturer's website, and failing that google it.
[08:22] <SlimeyPete> assuming you don't have the manual to hand.
[08:22] <ghostcube> tim whats the prob u need frq for moni ?
[08:22] <Xeross> my 7.04 installation cd asks for username and password what are they(i mean what is the username and what is the password)
[08:23] <jereme_> what's the easiest way from a prompt to shutdown to single user mode?
[08:23] <ghostcube> init 2
[08:23] <jereme_> I thought 'shutdown now' did that
[08:23] <Xeross> ...
[08:24] <SlimeyPete> I don't think mine ever have, but lots of people seem to report it
[08:24] <SlimeyPete> Xeross: try root and blank
[08:24] <Xeross> it sais you cant login as root
[08:24] <sstchur> ghostcube: no dice.... after restarting X, I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner (this is after the kubuntu splash screen)
[08:24] <Xeross> now burning the dvd
[08:25] <ghostcube> sstchur: oha
[08:25] <ghostcube> u uinstalled nvidia
[08:25] <ghostcube> ?
[08:25] <tim> i want to identify it
[08:25] <sstchur> ghostcube: I ran, sudo sh NVIDIA_whatever_it_was -- uninstall
[08:26] <ghostcube> ah and have u installed the nvidia-glx-new after this
[08:26] <ghostcube> `
[08:26] <sstchur> ghostcube: It said it would "do the best it could, but it noticed that there had been changes (like installing the nvidia-glx-new through the package manager)
[08:26] <sstchur> ghostcube: It seemed to have uninstalled successfully though
[08:26] <ghostcube> and u installed nvidia-glx-new
[08:26] <ghostcube> ?
[08:26] <SlimeyPete> tim: so look on the manufacturer's website or in the manual, as I said. You'll need tolook at the technical specifications of it.
[08:27] <ghostcube> sstchur: have u installed nvidia drivers
[08:27] <ghostcube> after uninstalling the run file
[08:27] <ghostcube> ?
[08:27] <jereme_> is there any way to safe fsck the partition mounted at / without having a boot cd?
[08:27] <ghostcube> pls go to term and txpe startx as normal user
[08:27] <Xeross> also when i run the cd it sais unknown error and my second monitor freaks out
[08:28] <jereme_> I thought I could unmount in in single user mode, but now I realize I can't unmount that partition
[08:28] <sstchur> ghostcube: yes, I ran sudo aptitude reinstall nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-something-or-other-ican't-remember-the-exact-command
[08:28] <ghostcube> and u rebootet pc agter this
[08:28] <ghostcube> ?
[08:28] <sstchur> ghostcube: when I run startx from a terminal, I get the same blinking cursor screen
[08:28] <sstchur> ghostcube: yes, rebooted after
[08:29] <ghostcube> dpkg -l "*nvidia*"
[08:29] <ghostcube> to pastebin.ca
[08:29] <Xeross> the dvd is livecd and install right ?
[08:29] <sstchur> ghostcube: I get "no packages found"\
[08:29] <ghostcube> Xeross: kubuntu ? dont use livecd always try alternate install
[08:29] <ghostcube> sstchur: aha
[08:30] <sstchur> means, it didn't work?
[08:30] <sstchur> the install?
[08:30] <Xeross> well what's the dvd for then
[08:30] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:31] <ghostcube> not aptitude
[08:31] <ghostcube> apt-get
[08:31] <Xeross> ?
[08:31] <ghostcube> i hate aptitufde
[08:31] <ghostcube> Xeross: to test
[08:31] <ghostcube> i never had en 100 % bugfree install with it
[08:31] <sstchur> ghostcube: what's the difference? I read somewhere that you should use aptitude?
[08:31] <ghostcube> only with alternate install
[08:31] <Xeross> damn then im burning it for nothing
[08:31] <ghostcube> i hate aptitude
[08:32] <Xeross> well ill download alternate install then
[08:32] <ghostcube> Xeross: lol yes try this way in textmode it instralls better
[08:32] <Xeross> ?
[08:32] <Xeross> textmode
[08:32] <sstchur> ghostcube: says "nvidia-glx-new is already the newest version"
[08:33] <sstchur> "linux-restricted-... is already the newest version"
[08:33] <pramod> hello
[08:33] <sstchur> ghostcube: also says "linux-restricted-... set to manual installed"
[08:33] <Xeross> hey
[08:33] <pramod> well i got a problem with jBaci... anyone can help me please...
[08:34] <Xeross> so only the alternate install one works
[08:34] <pramod> anyone knows abt jBaci here?
[08:34] <pramod> jBaci is a concurrent programming simulator... created in Java...
[08:35] <ghostcube> sstchur: pls post ure xorg.0.log from /var/log/ to pastebin.ca
[08:35] <sstchur> ghostcube: xorg.0.log doens't exist in /var/log/
[08:36] <ghostcube> what
[08:36] <ghostcube> locate xorg.0.log
[08:36] <sstchur> ghostcube: tried that -- nothing
[08:36] <llutz> Xorg.0.log
[08:36] <sstchur> llutz: ah ha!
[08:36] <ghostcube> oh my fault
[08:36] <ghostcube> lol
[08:36] <sstchur> thanks
[08:37] <ghostcube> thx llutz
[08:37] <alex_> hey does anybody know how to make the menus (like Applications, Places, System) transluscent in the Gnome environment?
[08:37] <sstchur> ghostcube: http://pastebin.ca/718816
[08:37] <Xeross> aaaargh fking windows
[08:37] <alex_> (yea i'm a noob)
[08:37] <Xeross> everything is freaking out
[08:38] <ghostcube> sstchur: u bootet with  nv driver
[08:38] <ghostcube> can u post again ure xorg.conf
[08:38] <ghostcube> to pastebin.ca
[08:38] <ubuntu> hey how can i install kubuntu 7.4 with windows xp
[08:38] <enoch> alguien tiene informacion
[08:39] <enoch> sobre codeks
[08:39] <alex_> ubuntu you should be able to just boot up off the disk and use hte partition manager to resize the partition windows is installed in and then install ubuntu....
[08:39] <sstchur> ghostcube: huh... you're right
[08:39] <sstchur> can you send me the link to your modified xorg.conf again?
[08:39] <ghostcube> yes
[08:40] <ubuntu> ok ihave a partion for ubuntu
[08:40] <BluesKaj> !es | enoch
[08:40] <ubotu> enoch: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:40] <ghostcube> http://pastebin.ca/718788
[08:40] <alex_> are you in windows xp now?
[08:40] <enoch> gracias
[08:40] <BluesKaj> da nada
[08:40] <pramod> anyone knows abt jBaci hereee?????
[08:40] <pramod> please...
[08:40] <ubuntu> but when i run the partioner what is the steps to do to keep windows and install ubuntu
[08:40] <sstchur> ghostcube: Oh wait... yeah, I booted with nv, b/c when the xorg.conf file you modified for me didn't work, I had to copy my old xorg.conf back so that I could boot and get back into this chat room
[08:41] <alex_> just make sure that  you don't format the partition windows is on
[08:41] <alex_> s
[08:41] <alex_> hey does anybody know how to make the menus (like Applications, Places, System) transluscent in the Gnome environment?
[08:41] <ubuntu> ok but what is the format ubuntu except and it is necsarry to make a swap
[08:42] <alex_> you probably want to make a swap partition, and the Ubuntu setup will automatically format the partition you want to install to
[08:42] <BluesKaj> alex_, best goto #ubuntu
[08:42] <alex_> BluesKaj: thanks
[08:42] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:43] <phoenixz> Does anybody know why connecting to a server with ssh can sometimes take like 30- 60  seconds??
[08:43] <ghostcube> sstchur: ok so i need an Xorg.0.log from fail boot
[08:43] <ghostcube> so u must boot with wromng xorg
[08:43] <ghostcube> the copy ion terminal as root Xorg.0.log to homefoldeer
[08:43] <tim> I found specifications what next?
[08:43] <sstchur> ghostcube: do you want me to try that again, and save the file off before I revert back?
[08:43] <ghostcube> yep
[08:43] <sstchur> ok
[08:43] <sstchur> brb
[08:43] <ghostcube> :)
[08:43] <alex_> ubuntu: good luck
[08:45] <uga> phoenixz: those aren't normal connection times. Does the connection lag afterwards, or is it just establishment?
[08:45] <uga> it might be an ISP issue...
[08:46] <BluesKaj> tim, it depends on what you want to do
[08:46] <phoenixz> uga, just establishing connection.. I read all over the place that its related to reverse DNS lookup, but the various suggested solutions don't work for me.. :(
[08:46] <phoenixz> uga, its on the local network @ my work
[08:47] <sstchur> ghostcube: http://pastebin.ca/718822
[08:48] <uga> phoenixz: I don't see how reverse dns lookups could be causing that much trouble... if anyone, it should be the server trying those, and I don't know what for. You as a client know the complete domain name.
[08:48] <uga> phoenixz: as I believe other services like ftp don't fail in the same way,... have you tried moving sshd to port 21 instead?
[08:49] <uga> just edit /etc/sshd-config in the server, and set "Port 21" there
[08:49] <ghostcube> sstchur: lol
[08:49] <ghostcube> my xorg is meesd up he cant find it
[08:49] <ghostcube> so pls post ure damaged one there is an fault in it
[08:49] <ghostcube> 8i must dione shit
[08:50] <phoenixz> uga, well, what I read on the inet is that ssh uses reverse looking as part of the authentication. if dns doesnt work correctly, it fails after a while.. supposedly not a serious bug, but it is very annoying..
[08:50] <ghostcube> sorry
[08:50] <sstchur> ghostcube: http://pastebin.ca/718824
[08:50] <phoenixz> uga, in any case, these are working computers, I cant go changing ssh ports and stuff like that
[08:50] <acecase> hey
[08:50] <phoenixz> uga, and there are _no_ network problems whatsoever
[08:51] <acecase> how do I install fuse module for a custom kernel? All info sais to install fuse-source but that package doesn't exist
[08:51] <uga> phoenixz: I was thinking about QoS services and the likes
[08:52] <uga> phoenixz: rather than trusting what google says, have you tried "reading" in between lines with ethereal/wireshark?
[08:52] <m56204> hi all. i have following problem: i installed Feisty from live dvd to a new computer (amd 4000+, msi k9n, nf560). the basic hw worked ok except the NIC. i downloaded the driver provided by realtek website and compiled the module. so far so good. then i did several steps and after that i got into a bit stupid state of the system. i installed with small problem the binary ati graphics driver and was trying to set up hybrid dvb card by setting
[08:52] <m56204> some module parameters for analog and compilig v4l drivers for digital part (both did not work anyway, it is a Kworld t210 car based on philips saa7134). The stupid state of the system is for me is tihs: first thing is that there comes from somewhere periodically key event 177 - it makes impossible to repeat any key on the real keyboard and makes unusable pop-up menus kde. The other stupid thing is that if i am trying to log into terminal
[08:52] <m56204> outside xwindows i write the right name and password and it rejects me with "login incorrect" message. There is also strange message at the beginning - see http://pastebin.com/m4952075e
[08:52] <uga> phoenixz: if it's the dns reversing that fails, it should be the server lagging with the response
[08:53] <uga> phoenixz: oh... ... uhm... if you edit /etc/hosts and you just set your IP and domain name there?
[08:53] <uga> in the server
[08:53] <ibilic> I am behind a firewall at university, and I am being told that only the "ssh and the www port has been enabled"
[08:53] <uga> phoenixz: I bet that should avoid reverse dns lookups unnecessary?
[08:53] <ghostcube> sstchur: i dont find the error
[08:53] <acecase> m56204: you meen the pastebin post is larger than the one you just pasted?
[08:53] <acecase> :)
[08:54] <ghostcube> can someone look over thos telling me the error in line 139
[08:54] <ibilic> does that mean that I can't run an ftp server on my machine?
[08:54] <ghostcube> http://pastebin.ca/718824+
[08:54] <m56204> well, not, but i could not make the formating so nice
[08:54] <ghostcube> http://pastebin.ca/718824
[08:54] <niyado> hola
[08:54] <sstchur> ghostcube: that's for me?
[08:54] <uga> ibilic: you can do some sort of file transfer over ssh. It's called fish. try fish://ipaddress/ in konqueror
[08:55] <ghostcube> sstchur: no i cant find the error
[08:55] <uga> ibilic: it allows transferring files over the ssh port
[08:55] <ghostcube> it tells me
[08:55] <ghostcube> :|
[08:55] <niyado> tengo instalado el nuevo beta de kubuntu y suelo usar mi mouse pero es de wacom(pentablet) y pues no me quiere funcionar al inicio... a alguien le a sucedido?
[08:55] <ibilic> yeah, but what if I want someone with Windows to access my files?
[08:55] <uga> ibilic: there's ssh clients for windows
[08:56] <ibilic> sure, but then you have to explain to people how to set it up etc... whereas for ftp, all you need to do is type the address in a browser
[08:56] <uga> ibilic: or you could run your ftp server on the ssh port =))
[08:57] <ghostcube> sstchur: it tells me in line 139 is soimething  wrong
[08:57] <uga> ibilic: let those people know that their OS is stupidly useless and to migrate to something sane that supports fish by default? =)
[08:57] <ghostcube> but there isnt
[08:58] <ghostcube> may comment out the last 3 lines of the xorg file for a test
[08:58] <sstchur> ok
[08:58] <ghostcube> #
[08:58] <ghostcube> Section "Extensions"
[08:58] <ghostcube> #
[08:58] <ghostcube>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[08:58] <ghostcube> #
[08:58] <poison--> niyado
[08:58] <ghostcube> EndSection
[08:58] <poison--> !es
[08:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste
[08:59] <ghostcube> ahh
[08:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> apparently it doesn't like compositing
[08:59] <ibilic> uga: so is it possible to run an ftp server from the ssh port?
[08:59] <ghostcube> no i dont get it
[08:59] <sstchur> ghostcube: leave hte Option "Composite" "Enable" ?
[08:59] <uga> ibilic: you can run any service in any port you want
[08:59] <ghostcube> it wont grab ot
[08:59] <ghostcube> mark the lines
[08:59] <ibilic> right... I'll look into it
[08:59] <uga> ibilic: or you could serve your files over http too
[08:59] <ghostcube> and restart
[08:59] <sstchur> k
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> what kind of card?
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing ati
[09:00] <phoenixz> uga, did that, and that did not work
[09:00] <phoenixz> How do I configure kmail to autmatically dump all spam mail in a spam box?? Sifting through all spam manually is.. tiresome!
[09:02] <deviance> When burning ISO's is there an optimal speed? And would verify conenece be a good idea in k3b
[09:02] <sstchur> ghostcube: still no good -- it's saying "no screens found"
[09:02] <ghostcube> sstchur: working ?
[09:02] <ghostcube> :|
[09:03] <LjL> phoenixz: Tools / Anti-spam Wizard perhaps?
[09:03] <ghostcube> sstchur: so but now it boots in the xorg
[09:03] <tim> I found specifications for my MOnitor so how i do pu them on?????
[09:03] <ghostcube> may we need the Xorg.0.log of it
[09:03] <ghostcube> :)
[09:03] <sstchur> ghostcube: no it doesn't book into xorg
[09:04] <ghostcube> no it uses the xorg file but no x
[09:04] <ghostcube> i mean
[09:04] <sstchur> ghostcube: it just dies when I type startx.... spits out a bunch of stuff and says "no screens..."
[09:04] <sstchur> oh
[09:04] <ghostcube> yep thats important
[09:04] <tim> can u plz help me on that?
[09:04] <phoenixz> LjL, That was a doh... :) totally overlooked the entry in the menu
[09:04] <ghostcube> therefore i need the Xorg.0.logf
[09:04] <ghostcube> therefore i need the Xorg.0.log
[09:04] <ghostcube> :)
[09:04] <sstchur> but we already tried that didn't we?
[09:05] <LjL> heh
[09:05] <tim> can u plz guys help me to put my MOnitor specs IN ?
[09:06] <sstchur> ghostcube: maybe this will help
[09:06] <sstchur> ghostcube: at the bottom of the Xorg.0.log.old file is:
[09:06] <sstchur> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[09:06] <sstchur> Fatal server error: no screens found
[09:07] <sstchur> ghostcube: http://pastebin.ca/718847
[09:07] <uga> phoenixz: interesting url. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050329185832952
[09:08] <ghostcube> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure
[09:08] <uga> phoenixz: it claims two things. First, that the hosts solution has worked for the guy. And from the answers... the likely problem is your local dns server is not properly set up to reverse dns lookups
[09:08] <tim> CAN u plz helpe me to my psecifications for my MONItor?
[09:08] <ghostcube> sstchur: the drivers isnt loaded
[09:08] <ghostcube> thats all
[09:08] <sstchur> ghostcube: so what do I do?  I ran all the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new stuff
[09:08] <sstchur> ghostcube: it ran successfully
[09:09] <ghostcube> lsmod nvidia
[09:09] <ghostcube> lsmod | grepnvidia
[09:09] <ghostcube> ahh
[09:09] <uga> phoenixz: also, a possible solution for the sshd config: http://www.macosxhints.com/comment.php?mode=display&format=threaded&order=ASC&pid=54166
[09:09] <ghostcube> lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:09] <sstchur> i got it
[09:09] <sstchur> nvidia               3930348  0
[09:09] <sstchur> agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,intel_a
[09:10] <ghostcube> sstchur: have u synaptic installed
[09:10] <ghostcube> ?
[09:10] <melomane> hi, any expert in kdevelop?
[09:11] <uga> melomane: #kde-devel is your place
[09:11] <sstchur> ghostcube: just adept, but I can install synaptic if need be
[09:12] <melomane> uga: thanks
[09:12] <ghostcube> sstchur: pls install synaptic
[09:12] <sstchur> ghostcube: why would I need it instead of adept?
[09:12] <ghostcube> better
[09:12] <ghostcube> ever usedit ?
[09:12] <ghostcube> u will see
[09:12] <ghostcube> :)
[09:12] <ghostcube> ther must be something wrong with the drivers
[09:12] <ghostcube> but what is difficult
[09:12] <sstchur> ghostcube: I have used it a little... just figured I should use whatever comes with Kubuntu by default
[09:12] <tim> can u plz helpme
[09:12] <ghostcube> sstchur: nope
[09:13] <ghostcube> not all kde tools working well
[09:13] <ghostcube> :|
[09:13] <sstchur> ghostcube: k, it's installed
[09:13] <ghostcube> open it
[09:13] <ghostcube> then search for nvidia
[09:13] <ghostcube> what is installed on ure pc
[09:14] <uga> ghostcube: lol, what's failing in adept, for you =)
[09:14] <sstchur> ghostcube: Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64 and Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64
[09:14] <ghostcube> uga no i hate adept looking not working
[09:14] <ghostcube> lol
[09:14] <sstchur> ghostcube: also, nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common
[09:15] <uga> sstchur: beware that there's lots of synaptic zealots around ;P
[09:15] <ghostcube> uga: may u have an idea
[09:15] <ghostcube> sstchur installed the run file
[09:15] <ghostcube> deinstalled it by uininstall
[09:15] <ghostcube> installed nvidia-glx-new
[09:15] <ghostcube> xorg tells no klernel moduk found
[09:15] <ghostcube> for an 7300 gt
[09:16] <uga> uhn, I don't use kubuntu nvidia stuff, it only caused me trouble
[09:16] <sstchur> uga: that's fine... why is it any better than adept? shouldn't it just be two different interfaces for accomplishing the same things?
[09:16] <uga> ghostcube: I use Nvidia installer, and remove lrm packs
[09:16] <uga> works like charm
[09:16] <uga> 8500gt here
[09:16] <ghostcube> uga yep normally it does but normally nvidia-glx-new is better for compiz and 7300 gt
[09:17] <sstchur> uga: I used the nVidia installer at first... and then ran startx and everything was golden -- Beryl and all, then I rebooted and all hell broke loose
[09:17] <uga> ghostcube: I'm running compiz here just fine
[09:17] <ghostcube> u need the 100x
[09:17] <ghostcube> for this card or
[09:17] <ghostcube> ?
[09:17] <uga> sstchur: I know why it broke for you
[09:17] <uga> sstchur: it's NOT loading the nvidia module you installed
[09:18] <ghostcube> uga: yep
[09:18] <uga> it's loading the linux restricted modules one, when rebooting
[09:18] <ghostcube> it should uga
[09:18] <ghostcube> i have told him installing restrictzed modules
[09:18] <uga> ghostcube: did he uninstall linux-restricted-modules deb?
[09:18] <ghostcube> he installed the deb man
[09:18] <ghostcube> and uninstaklled the run
[09:18] <ghostcube> :)
[09:18] <uga> ghostcube: then it's broken
[09:18] <uga> it doesn't load the NVidia binary that nvidia installer installs
[09:18] <uga> it's loading the one that lrm builds
[09:19] <rjb> can't upgrade to the new beta, the upgrade tool dies in the middle of the job
[09:19] <uga> and it's broken here, very broken
[09:19] <ghostcube> uga he removed lrm one
[09:19] <rjb> has anyone seen that and might suggest a reason?
[09:19] <uga> ghostcube: it's not a .ko it's a .o
[09:19] <uga> ghostcube: I've gone through the same thing =)
[09:19] <ghostcube> ok one chance
[09:19] <ghostcube> sstchur: #compiz-fusion
[09:19] <ghostcube> pls
[09:20] <uga> ghostcube: you stop kdm service, rmmod nvidia, and restart kdm service. It loads the new nvidia module and runs fine
[09:20] <ghostcube> uga
[09:20] <uga> I'm not kidding. It caused me nightmares for a week
[09:20] <ghostcube> he has got run file first
[09:20] <ghostcube> removed is one
[09:20] <ghostcube> and the ni nstaled packaged one
[09:21] <uga> ghostcube: I tell you... packaged one doesn't work here either
[09:21] <uga> it's broken!
[09:21] <ghostcube> here it works
[09:21] <sstchur> ghostcube: uga: ok, so what do I do now?  I'm lost
[09:21] <ghostcube> i use it on all pcs
[09:21] <uga> not here. 8500gt
[09:21] <ghostcube> he has an 7300 gt
[09:21] <ghostcube> it must work
[09:21] <ghostcube> sstchur: #compiz-fusion
[09:22] <uga> ghostcube: are you running the same gpu?
[09:22] <sstchur> ghostcube: what do I tell them?
[09:22] <ghostcube> im in
[09:22] <ghostcube> come in
[09:22] <ghostcube> :)
[09:22] <ghostcube> 7600 gts
[09:23] <ghostcube> sstchur: come over iun chan
[09:25] <ghostcube> sstchur: ??
[09:25] <ghostcube> i cant help u here but in compiz are the grafik guruas
[09:25] <ghostcube> gurus
[09:25] <ghostcube> lol
[09:25] <ghostcube> normayll im the nvidia freak there but i dont know at the moment
[09:26] <drbobb> hello, anyone else tried to upgrade to gutsy beta?
[09:26] <theory_> I installed qsynaptics but cannot find where it installed to...where would this be located?
[09:27] <aco_> I've installed beryl and i'm using several desktops..but is there a way for the KDE to only show the windows opened in just that Desktop?
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: I'm reinstalling it... but support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <drbobb> theory_: dpkg -L qsynaptics gives you a list of files installed
[09:27] <sstchur> ghostcube: I'm here... also talking to uga
[09:28] <ghostcube> ah ok
[09:28] <ghostcube> but maybe join #+compiz-fusion thats nortmal prob there to get it bak i never had this
[09:28] <ghostcube> before
[09:29] <JimmyDee> try #ubuntu-effects
[09:29] <uga> ghostcube: the thing is... after installing the nvidia driver, he had the box working. Rebooting it made it not work
[09:29] <uga> it's clearly not loading the same module
[09:30] <JimmyDee> is he loading the right kernel?
[09:30] <uga> the nvidia installer rmmods and modprobes the new module
[09:30] <uga> JimmyDee: I believe he is, but happenned same as did to me, lrm tools keeps loading the .o that it includews
[09:30] <uga> before xorg can load the nvidia installed one
[09:30] <ghostcube> uga yes and in compiz-fusion ardy has had an way to fix it
[09:30] <ghostcube> wait i ask
[09:31] <JimmyDee> purge the old one?
[09:31] <uga> JimmyDee: that's what I was suggesting. It's a .o provided by lrm modules
[09:31] <uga> but ghostcube is suggesting to install them instead =)
[09:31] <uga> and I got to leave from here in a matter of minutes ;)
[09:31] <JimmyDee> forgive me I came in late
[09:32] <tsb> I can no longer to kmenu->log out because kdesu or whatever has stalled (I don't see any processes matching su though) - how do I restart gracefully now?
[09:32] <ghostcube> uga
[09:32] <ghostcube> i never tolds install instead
[09:32] <ghostcube> he uninstalled run
[09:32] <ghostcube> i told him to install deb
[09:32] <uga> ghostcube: that's what I'm telling you... the deb never worked here
[09:32] <uga> the nvidia binary worked just fine
[09:32] <uga> even on this 64bit box
[09:32] <poison--> lmao
[09:33] <JimmyDee> yummy ugas hotties!
[09:33] <dhq> which command do i run to know when kubuntu was installed on the system
[09:33] <poison--> eheheheh
[09:33] <poison--> sup
[09:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> which version from the repos did you use?
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> hey Daisuke-Laptop.
[09:34] <tsb> anyone? I'll juts have to sudo reboot?
[09:34] <JimmyDee> evening daisyduke
[09:34] <JimmyDee> Daisuke-Laptop
[09:34] <tsb> If I go to kcontrol and do somethign that requires root I get no password auth either..
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> see you guys later, I have to go load  gutsy beta!
[09:35] <uga> gnight JimmyDee and ghostcube
[09:35] <uga> gotta go, sorry
[09:35] <ghostcube> night
[09:35] <ghostcube> :)
[09:35] <JimmyDee> tsb: have you run gksu or kdesu previously?
[09:35] <dhq> is beta gusty out
[09:35] <tsb> JimmyDee: No.
[09:36] <chx> hi. i have a new keyboard, trackpoint included, nice for travel, really. it has xf86forward / xf86back keys as well. I do not need those. but i need mouse scrollwheel really bad which this baby misses. So, how can i remap xf86forward/back to  emulate mouse scrollwheel.
[09:37] <JimmyDee> tsb: hrm
[09:37] <tsb> JimmyDee: "dcop kdesktop default logout" does not work either.
[09:37] <JimmyDee> tsb: gracefully tried ctrl alt backspace?
[09:37] <sayers> uh
[09:37] <sayers> all my programs when there is a list it colors every other one blue.
[09:38] <tsb> JimmyDee: ctrl alt backspace will nuke my current session, I don't want to do that.. I'd like to keep my windows etc up.
[09:38] <JimmyDee> ahhh yes you are right, hasty of me
[09:38] <JimmyDee> got me
[09:42] <raul> hola
[09:43] <Daisuke-Laptop> oh wow, didn't see mister anderson here :D
[09:47] <tim> an u plz help me to Put in speicifacaions for mY monitor???
[09:48] <tim> 1280 *1024  horizontal 80 vertical 75
[09:49] <dhq> is gusty beta safe
[09:49] <llutz> dhq define "safe"
[09:49] <ubuntu> hejka
[09:50] <dhq> llutz, well not like tribe1
[09:50] <ghozala> hey how can i mount ntfs partitions
[09:50] <BluesKaj> tim , you have to edit your xorg file,  copy and paste in the konsole : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:50] <CaptainApathy> !ntfs | ghozala
[09:50] <ubotu> ghozala: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:51] <CaptainApathy> dhq: it's beta software.  that means there are bugs being fixed.  Bugs can range from spelling errors, to obscure bugs that can completely break a setup...  You may never even run into one if you install it, but there is the chance
[09:52] <dhq> CaptainApathy, how do i upgrade
[09:52] <dhq> !upgrade
[09:52] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:52] <llutz> !gutsy
[09:52] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <stdin> dhq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu
[09:53] <CaptainApathy> dhq: dunno.  I'm planning on wipeing my system and installing fresh once 7.10 comes out
[09:53] <syd_> how to change charset in tty?
[09:54] <dhq> CaptainApathy, well i have upgraded my system right form drapper --> edgy-->feisty---now gusty:)
[09:55] <stdin> syd_: maybe with consolechars (see man consolechars)
[09:56] <JCDean> does anyone like suse's grub appearance better?
[09:57] <Kachna> hey,i need to create new partitions on a drive, but when i deleted my old one, it says that free space is read-only - any idea how to format it?
[09:57] <emilsedgh> JCDean: installing grub themes shouldnt be hard, but who cares, really?
[09:57] <JCDean> wife dislikes the plain one
[09:58] <stdin> JCDean: why don't you just use a splash image?
[09:59] <stdin> !info kubuntu-grub-splashimages
[09:59] <ubotu> kubuntu-grub-splashimages: grub splashimages for Kubuntu. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1 (feisty), package size 246 kB, installed size 332 kB
[10:00] <JCDean> stdin: tried splashy but it seems to be failing
[10:00] <stdin> Kachna: are you working from a liveCD? you can't modify the partition table on a disk that has any part mounted
[10:00] <stdin> JCDean: failing ?
[10:01] <JCDean> user error
[10:01] <Kachna> stdin: yep im on live
[10:01] <Kachna> well,just figured out what did i forget,had my /home there :P
[10:02] <stdin> JCDean: this is the line I have in my menu.lst (that works) "splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splashimages/kgs.xpm.gz"
[10:02] <stdin> my root is on /dev/sda2 so its (hd0,1)
[10:03] <JCDean> I dont know why i went the splashy route
[10:04] <Kachna> brb
[10:10] <alejandro_> hi
[10:10] <Kachna> ok so here we come,i kinda deleted my /home,i don't mind about these files much,but how can i get my user back? :P
[10:10] <followerofhim> I put Sphinx-2 on my computer running ubuntu however, I can't find it or, get it working. anyone know how to get it working?
[10:10] <Kachna> (oh hell,had my guitar recordings there >.<)
[10:10] <alejandro_> how to dist-upgrade without upgradin openoffice?
[10:11] <Kachna> alejandro_: apt-get remove openoffice? :P
[10:11] <llutz> alejandro_: set it on hold
[10:11] <Kachna> or so...
[10:11] <stdin> Kachna: you just have to recreate your home directory (and copy the files in /etc/skel/ to there)
[10:12] <tim> hi
[10:12] <Kachna> stdin: so easy,thanks :-)
[10:12] <tim> I just changed My xconfig an now AM running in A BLACKc screen
[10:13] <tim> can u help me t obring my graphical enviroment back
[10:13] <stdin> Kachna: word of warning, in /etc/fstab the line to mount your old home was probably using a UUID, after it's formatted the UUID will be different so you'll need to edit that  (and any other partitions you change)
[10:14] <tim> dpkg
[10:14] <Kachna> stdin: yep just commented out that one,well,i wanna to make partitions,but either live and installed system uses swap there -> any way to make completely new partition table there?
[10:15] <Kachna> mean,i have no more partitions so i could make swap temporarily there :/
[10:15] <followerofhim> Sphinx-2 anyone here know to get it working?
[10:15] <stdin> tim: there's usually a backup made in /etc/X11/   called something like "xorg.conf.20070928211432"   (the date in YearMonthDayHourMinuteSeconds)
[10:15] <llutz> Kachna: swapoff -a
[10:16] <Kachna> llutz: k ran it,then umount -a and it looks ok..so i can play? :-)
[10:17] <llutz> Kachna: you should
[10:17] <Kachna> oh yep i see,thanks a lot :-)
[10:17] <stdin> Kachna: if "mount" and "cat /proc/swaps" show nothing to do with the disk, it's all good :)
[10:17] <Kachna> great :P soo...how big swap should i make? from what i see,it hardly ever uses any :/
[10:18] <Kachna> have G ram,so i had 1536MB there...dunno why,just the 1st number i got in my mind :/ it's useless,isnt it?
[10:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> Kachna: not useless
[10:19] <Kachna> mean that size
[10:19] <stdin> Kachna: if you don't need Hibernate and aren't doing memory intensive things (sounds like you aren't). then somewhere in the region of 512MB - 1GB  is what I usually recommend
[10:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> that's the general rule for swap
[10:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> but like stdin said, that's changed lately.
[10:19] <tim> guys plz helpe me
[10:19] <Kachna> well i knew it was on win i should make 1,5*ram...
[10:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> i tend to use a tiny bit more swap
[10:20] <llutz> Kachna: you always can add swap later (swap-file)
[10:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> Kachna: that's because win is a swapping fool.
[10:20] <Kachna> that's the thing,i love to hibernate :-)
[10:20] <ozehka> hey, my DVD+RW drive is recognized in konqueror and i can also read cd/dvds but burning programs like k3b can't find any burner
[10:20] <tim> i chanaged my xorg
[10:20] <Kachna> well windows is memory fool at all i think :/
[10:20] <llutz> Kachna: for hibernation you should have RAM * 1.5
[10:20] <knopnet> what did you do to it?
[10:20] <tim> now i can't boot graphical enviroment
[10:20] <Kachna> k,so making 1,5G
[10:20] <stdin> Kachna: if you hibernate then you need swap to be about 1.5xRAM
[10:21] <elbuscador> algun espaol
[10:21] <stdin> !es
[10:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:21] <elbuscador> thanks
[10:21] <Kachna> but i have troubles,if i hibernate to memory,it often freezes at all,if i hibernate on disk,it doesn't activate my usb mouse after start..any idea why?
[10:22] <llutz> Kachna: hibernation on linux is still tricky. try to unload/load usb-modules when hibernateing/resuming
[10:23] <Kachna> k,will try,but 1st i gotta get my user back :-)
[10:23] <rsingh> hi
[10:24] <rsingh> i am having trouble reassembling my raid
[10:24] <rsingh> i used mdadm
[10:24] <rsingh> does anyone know how to fix the super block on mdadm raid drive
[10:24] <tim> I can't login into GRAPHICAL eniroment plz help me!
[10:24] <Kachna> stdin: so i just copy contents of /etc/skel to /home/username ok?
[10:24] <tim> kachna can u pzl help me
[10:24] <Kachna> tim: what does it say after typing startx?
[10:25] <Kachna> i'm kinda noob but i can try :P
[10:25] <tim> wrong scaling
[10:25] <tim> i changed horizontal and vertical values and it sopted working
[10:25] <Kachna> restored that old config file?
[10:26] <stdin> Kachna: this is generally the way (as root/from recovery mode/in chroot) "mkdir /home/user ; cp -a /etc/skel/ /home/user/ ; chown -R user: /home/user"
[10:26] <Kachna> stdin: wth is chown? :P
[10:26] <stdin> Kachna: CHange OWNer
[10:27] <Kachna> oh,nice,thanks :-)
[10:27] <dannioni> How do I change so that firefox is my standard browser instead of Konqueror, for example when clicking a link in Konversation i want it to open in firefox
[10:27] <tim> how do i resotoreconfig file?
[10:27] <stdin> dannioni: system settings > default applications
[10:28] <Kachna> tim: is there that backup in /etc/X11 ?
[10:28] <tim> no
[10:28] <stuckat46perc> hello..i am trying to install kubuntu 7.04 (last upgrade) on a com that has xp and madriva 2006 (which im willing to ditch in favour of kubuntu). When i run the installer it gets stuck at 46%of the disk scanning (partitioning stage)..the disk is not busy and i even created a single partition (had different mount points for / and home  on mandriva). Everything goes fine qith QTparted but fails with the installer...is there a known
[10:28] <stuckat46perc> issue with the installer other then the usual suggestions?
[10:28] <Kachna> oh,then nevermind me,sounds like a problem :/
[10:28] <swanfl> I've decided to be bold and update to gutsy. will this bring in kde4?
[10:28] <Kachna> brb
[10:29] <tim> do I need to reinstall Kubuntu 4th time?
[10:29] <tim> to do that?
[10:29] <stdin> stuckat46perc: does the disk have a swap partition? if so it may be in use when the live session starts. try "sudo swapoff -a"
[10:29] <stuckat46perc> yup
[10:29] <stuckat46perc> but i turned the sawp off
[10:29] <stuckat46perc> i didnt reboot though
[10:30] <stuckat46perc> is the -a mandatory?
[10:30] <rathel> Anyway I can turn off my screensaver while Kaffeine is running?
[10:30] <stuckat46perc> i issued buntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo swapoff /dev/hdb6
[10:30] <stdin> stuckat46perc: -a means all
[10:30] <tim> ok
[10:31] <stuckat46perc> ok ill try that
[10:31] <tim> ok do i need to reinstall kubuntu then?
[10:31] <stdin> stuckat46perc: the feisty kernel will use /dev/sda* in most cases, not /dev/hda*
[10:33] <uga> red
[10:33] <uga> re
[10:33] <dannioni> stdin: Thanks
[10:34] <uga> JimmyDee, ghostcube, how did it go for sstchur?
[10:34] <uga> I see the connection timed out...
[10:34] <root_> stdin: btw,why there are these uuids instead /dev/sdxx ?
[10:34] <uga> root_: if I'm not wrong, so that devices don't change mountpoint
[10:34] <stdin> Kachna: in fatab and in menu.lst uuids are used yeah
[10:35] <uga> Kachna:  sometimes the same portable device can appear as differnt /devs
[10:35] <uga> and that can cause the decie not mounting properly
[10:35] <stdin> Kachna: in feisty /dev/hda1 becomes /dev/sda1 < that would break unless UUIDs were used
[10:35] <uga> while using uuids will never change mountpoints
[10:35] <uga> stdin: oh, I thought it'd be for the CF and portable devices issue
[10:35] <Kachna> k and where can i fing uuid? :)
[10:36] <stdin> !uuid
[10:36] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:36] <pope22> hi, i'm having trouble with Miro, is anyone able to help?
[10:36] <mirek_> hej:)
[10:36] <stdin> uga: can be used for that too, anything where you can't guarantee what the device nodes will be called
[10:36] <Kachna> great,thanks :-)
[10:38] <stuckat46perc> turning the swap off didnt work.. shall i delete the swap partition and reboot? maybe delete the ext3 partition as well?
[10:39] <ghozala> hey how can i install hp laserjet 1020 p.s. i didnt find it through the list of drivers and i have tried near models
[10:39] <stdin> stuckat46perc: don't think that would help. if it's not using swap then it should be working.  the installer actually uses qtparted to partition
[10:39] <hitmanWilly> ghozala: that one probably needs hplip iirc
[10:39] <thomas__> hi I was wondering if someone can help me validate a webpage, I am getting a few errors I cannot fix
[10:39] <martijn> i have a question about the fast starter in kicker, when in put a firefox icon there and hit it to start i get "cannot execute command. File or folder bla bla does not exist."
[10:39] <llutz> ghozala: use "generic ps"
[10:39] <martijn> is there any way to fix this?
[10:40] <stuckat46perc> is there a way to do a manual install?
[10:40] <jereme_> thomax_: that's pretty off-topic for this channel
[10:40] <ghozala> how can i use generic ps
[10:40] <hitmanWilly> oh, btw, just finished a successful gutsy upgrade on the lappy
[10:40] <thomas__> jereme_: hmmm do know who could help me
[10:41] <jereme_> thomas__: #html perhaps?
[10:41] <stuckat46perc> ok ill reboot and try anyways...thank you
[10:41] <guigui__> Salut tlm
[10:41] <pillowpants> i just reformatted and reinstalled my windows partition
[10:41] <uga> arf, I hate the lack of wine for 64bit
[10:41] <pillowpants> which was also the master boot loader patition
[10:41] <pillowpants> and now my grub is gone
[10:41] <guigui__> j'aimerais savoir comment devenir le surper root
[10:41] <pillowpants> how might i install the grub again?
[10:42] <uga> pillowpants: boot with the live CD. Mount the partitions on /mnt manually. chroot to /mnt
[10:42] <pillowpants> so that i can get onto linux
[10:42] <stdin> !fr | guigui__
[10:42] <ubotu> guigui__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:42] <uga> and run grub-install
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> uga: wine'll work under 64, you just have to do some serious lib linking :)
[10:42] <pillowpants> uga, i see
[10:42] <ghozala> hey how can i install hp laserjet 1020 p.s. i didnt find it through the list of drivers and i have tried near models
[10:42] <phoenixz> I want to configure my kubuntu so that during startup a route will be added. I can do that with adding some route command in a startup script, but is there an "official" file for this?? and no, I don't want to do it with GUI, for the learning experience..  :)
[10:42] <stdin> !print
[10:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:42] <martijn> i have a question about the fast starter in kicker, when in put a firefox icon there and hit it to start i get "cannot execute command. File or folder bla bla/firefox.desktop does not exist."(i know too fast but i added something)
[10:43] <pillowpants> uga: how would i mount them manually?
[10:43] <hitmanWilly> !mount | pillowpants
[10:43] <ubotu> pillowpants: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:43] <uga> hitmanWilly: I read it's not straightforward though. Is it a normal 32 bit lib setup and chroot?
[10:43] <uga> I wonder what lib system wine depends on
[10:43] <llutz> ghozala: in kconfig dialog, use "postscript-printer" instead of loading any driver
[10:44] <uga> pillowpants: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; mount /dev/sda6/ /mnt/home
[10:44] <uga> for example
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> uga: nah, just have to link a bunch of the lib64 stuff to regular lib, chroot just causes more problems in this situation
[10:44] <uga> pillowpants: depends on what partittions your disks are
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> uga: of course, i haven't set that up under buntu, but it should be more or less the same :)
[10:44] <stdin> phoenixz: the best place for it would probably be either to add "gateway address.of.the.gateway" to /etc/network/interfaces to set a default gateway. or add the route commands to /etc/rc.local
[10:45] <pillowpants> is there a simpler way?
[10:45] <pillowpants> i just need to get a grub insatlled
[10:45] <uga> hitmanWilly: I just found this... http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[10:45] <snatch> guten Abend
[10:45] <hitmanWilly> uga: another reason i like gentoo, but that's offtopic, lol
[10:45] <phoenixz> stdin, yeah, I thought of adding the routes in rc.local with the route command but that looks kind of like a dirty solution to me..
[10:45] <snatch> darf ich eine Frage zu Koversation (irc) stellen?
[10:45] <uga> hitmanWilly: I gave up on gentoo after years of use. Too many broken ebuilds
[10:45] <stdin> !de | snatch
[10:45] <uga> and too many colliding packages
[10:46] <uga> annoying to maintain at the end
[10:46] <snatch> !de
[10:46] <snatch> ?
[10:46] <ubotu> snatch: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:46] <snatch> danke sehr
[10:46] <hitmanWilly> uga: yeah, it can get away from you if you don't keep it reined in...lol
[10:46] <thomas__> hi I was wondering if someone can help me validate a webpage, I am getting a few errors I cannot fix
[10:46] <alejandro_> howto repriorice a proces
[10:46] <uga> hitmanWilly: I did keep it right, but there were too many conflicting packages
[10:46] <stdin> phoenixz: unless you made your own script in /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to set it to start at boot it's the easiest way
[10:46] <thomas__> i can't find any help anywhere else :(
[10:47] <uga> hitmanWilly: badly built ones. I kept fixing ebuilds... and that's not what you're supposed to do when you use a distro
[10:47] <uga> hitmanWilly: ie, I wasn't supposed to be running LFS ;)
[10:47] <phoenixz> stdin, thats almost the same I guess.. :)
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> uga: hmmm, haven't run into too many problems on that front myself
[10:47] <stdin> phoenixz: the route setup is done by dhcp when bringing the interface up, so if you need to add something else it's "make your own script" time :)
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> uga: heh, if you want LFS, a stage 1 gentoo is basically the same thing...lol
[10:48] <phoenixz> stdin, this is another route, yes..
[10:48] <uga> hitmanWilly: a big problem I found was the lack of a proper system to rebuild all dependancies when the abis got broken
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> uga: but hey, that's why we have different distros :P
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> uga: revdep-rebuild?
[10:48] <phoenixz> so its BYOS, Bring Your Own Scripts
[10:48] <uga> hitmanWilly: it sometimes may work, yes ;))
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> uga: but again, this is getting massively offtopic...
[10:49] <uga> hitmanWilly: all my installs were done from first stage. But not even that method is supported anymore
[10:49] <uga> sorry yes
[10:49] <stdin> phoenixz: for those non-standard things yeah (and that is non-standard)
[10:49] <thomas__> stdin: can u help with something?
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> uga: about the only problem i've run into with that is for kde updates
[10:50] <stdin> thomas__: depends on the problem
[10:50] <thomas__> stdin: a little html problem i have :S
[10:50] <stdin> thomas__: my html is a little rusty, but I'll give it a shot
[10:51] <thomas__> stdin: ok ty, I need to validate this page but I'm getting 3 errors
[10:51] <Kachna> An error occurred while enabling /home.
[10:51] <thomas__> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38954/
[10:51] <Kachna> The system reported: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/ed388409-7e39-4db9-b20e-f48a19df260f does not exist
[10:51] <hitmanWilly> stdin: mine's probably fossilized then :P
[10:51] <stdin> Kachna: did you update the UUIDs in fstab?
[10:51] <Kachna> any ideas why it doesn't see that disk there? blkid says it'S there
[10:51] <Kachna> yep,i manually rewrote all the file
[10:52] <Kachna> with /dev/hda2 it works, with this nope :/
[10:52] <Kachna>  /dev/hda2: LABEL="home" UUID="ed388409-7e39-4db9-b20e-f48a19df260f" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[10:52] <Kachna> this is from blkid :/
[10:52] <stdin> Kachna: sometimes udev can be dumb, try restarting it "sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart"
[10:52] <alejandro_> howto use nice?
[10:53] <thomas__> stdin: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmatrix.senecac.on.ca%2F%7Etdrag%2Finterests.html&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
[10:53] <alejandro_> nice -n -1 pid?
[10:53] <uga> alejandro_: nice -n 10 foo.sh
[10:53] <thomas__> stdin: hold on that one has a mistake
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> alejandro_: man nice :)
[10:53] <uga> alejandro_: if you want to change the nice value, that's "renice" that you need
[10:54] <alejandro_> ahhh
[10:54] <thomas__> stdin: if you input the pastebing into here: http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input
[10:54] <uga> alejandro_: want a nice trick? =)
[10:54] <uga> alejandro_: press Ctrl+ESC
[10:54] <alejandro_> with nice i can put nice forever an a script or executable
[10:54] <alejandro_> ?
[10:54] <uga> alejandro_: select a process
[10:54] <uga> alejandro_: right mouse button click
[10:54] <uga> and see last option =)
[10:55] <uga> "renice process..."
[10:55] <alejandro_> i can use ksysguard because im playing a game
[10:55] <Kachna> stdin: thanks,it kinda works,but when i mount /home,it's ok and in df i see that partition,but when checking it in kcontrol,there's nothing about it, just partition 73GB /dev/hda2,no mountpoints or so :\
[10:55] <alejandro_> cant sorry
[10:55] <uga> heh okay
[10:55] <alejandro_> i cant switch between process
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> thomas__: maybe change the colors to hex values?
[10:55] <alejandro_> with alt+tab
[10:56] <thomas__> hitmanWilly: but have you seen the errors? it doesn't say anything about colours.......
[10:56] <hitmanWilly> thomas__: hold on a sec, let me try validating it
[10:57] <ozehka> hey
[10:57] <jeri> it's me again,and stil here with the same problem with my adept i cant open it,has erros in it.
[10:57] <ozehka> is it possible to share a ntfs partition with samba?
[10:57] <stdin> thomas__: well, I'm not up to date will XHTML standard, but I think that the errors are to do with <h#> should be in a style tag
[10:58] <stdin> or, replaced by a style tag rather
[10:58] <jeri> on it
[10:58] <uga> ozehka: I don't see why not, if the smb process got enough permissions to access the ntfs mount
[10:58] <ozehka> hey uga ;-)
[10:58] <uga> hi there
[10:59] <ozehka> i tried it but it says the folder could not be found
[10:59] <thomas__> stdin: the <h/> ???
[10:59] <uga> ozehka: what does ls -ld say on the folder?
[10:59] <ozehka> actually i expected something like "no permission"..
[10:59] <hitmanWilly> stdin: yeah, i think you're right, but again, my html skills are prehistoric...lol\
[10:59] <stdin> thomas__: the <h1> and <h3>
[10:59] <ozehka> folder = the partition
[10:59] <uga> yes
[10:59] <uga> the directory where it's mounted, I meant
[11:00] <thomas__> stdin: oh you mean that <h1> is only used in html not Xhtml
[11:00] <ozehka> so not in smb://mycomp/part ?
[11:00] <stdin> thomas__: I think, yes
[11:00] <uga> ozehka: wherever you mounted the ntfs partition with mount
[11:00] <ozehka> dr-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 12288 2007-09-24 16:45 .
[11:00] <uga> ozehka: /mnt/winders or so
[11:00] <thomas__> stdin: ok i'll try changing it, ty
[11:00] <uga> ozehka: okay... whoever in plugdev will be able to read it, but nobody else
[11:00] <uga> ozehka: samba cannot either enter nor read
[11:01] <uga> ozehka: sudo chmod o+rx ?
[11:01] <uga> that should give permissions to others to enter and read it
[11:01] <ozehka> hmm i think i tried to change permission...
[11:01] <ozehka> wait
[11:01] <hitmanWilly> uga: the o tag is just for owner, right?
[11:01] <uga> hitmanWilly: others
[11:01] <ozehka> uga: "Read-only file system"
[11:02] <uga> hitmanWilly: g =groups
[11:02] <jeri> ?
[11:02] <uga> ozehka: yes, it's mounted as read only. Ntfs can't be written unless you install modded libs
[11:02] <hitmanWilly> uga: k, i usually do mine by number ie 755, lol
[11:02] <uga> hitmanWilly: yes well, this method allows for less mistakes a=all, g=group, o=others, u=user
[11:03] <hitmanWilly> meh, whatever works for ya
[11:03] <uga> then +/- rxw
[11:03] <stdin> hitmanWilly: u=user, g=group, o=other
[11:03] <uga> hitmanWilly: imagine you want to remove permissions to the group fro writing
[11:03] <uga> you don't need to recalculate the 3 digits
[11:03] <uga> just say chmod g-w
[11:03] <ozehka> uga: i don't need write permission
[11:04] <hitmanWilly> uga: yeah, but im old skool...:P
[11:04] <uga> hitmanWilly: I noticed ;))
[11:04] <ozehka> so what i need is just "other read"
[11:04] <uga> ozehka: and execute
[11:04] <uga> rw
[11:04] <uga> sorry
[11:04] <uga> rx
[11:04] <ozehka> hmm, yeah, but not needed actually :P
[11:04] <uga> ozehka: unless you allow x in a directory, the person cannot enter
[11:04] <ozehka> so?
[11:04] <ozehka> chmod o+rw?
[11:04] <uga> no entering, no share =)
[11:04] <uga> chmod o+rx
[11:05] <uga> w is for writing
[11:05] <ozehka> eh, thats the same as before
[11:05] <uga> ozehka: that should give you  xr-xr-xr
[11:05] <ozehka> chmod: Beim Setzen der Zugriffsrechte fr hdc5: Read-only file system
[11:05] <uga> in permissions
[11:05] <uga> uh?
[11:06] <uga> ozehka: ah I see...
[11:06] <ozehka> and yes, i'm doing it as su :P
[11:06] <uga> you can't edit a read only file system
[11:06] <ozehka> yes...
[11:06] <uga> ozehka: it sets permissions when you mount
[11:06] <uga> umount it, change permissions to the directory, and mount
[11:06] <ozehka> so i need to edit fstab?
[11:06] <uga> in fstab you should allow permissions for rx for others. Cant' recall the syntax... a second
[11:06] <hitmanWilly> ozehka: what type of fs is this?
[11:06] <uga> hitmanWilly: ntfs
[11:07] <uga> so he can read onyl mount it
[11:07] <uga> but he needs "samba" user to have access
[11:07] <hitmanWilly> does samba auto set a umask?
[11:07] <ozehka> currently i got
[11:07] <ozehka> ... /media/hdc5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:08] <jeri> it's me again,and stil here with the same problem with my adept i cant open it,has erros in it.
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> may need to remove the umask
[11:08] <uga> ozehka: the problem is the 7
[11:08] <ozehka> is that "007" the octal?
[11:08] <uga> in 007
[11:09] <ozehka> so my partition has the license to kill? :P
[11:09] <uga> ozehka: it's inverse as permissions afaik
[11:09] <uga> like 7 will remove all permissions from "others"
[11:09] <uga> ozehka: yeah =)
[11:09] <stdin> umask=007 translates to 770
[11:09] <uga> you need agent 0 =)
[11:09] <ozehka> so i should set 000?
[11:09] <uga> yes
[11:09] <ozehka> ok
[11:09] <uga> either that, or add samba user to plugdev group
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> i thought a umask might be the issue :)
[11:09] <ozehka> okay
[11:11] <bowen> ?
[11:11] <ozehka> i think by now i just used user "guest" (smb.conf: guest ok = yes)
[11:11] <jochen_> hallo
[11:12] <jochen_> somebody german there?
[11:12] <poison--> !de
[11:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:12] <nelson_> canada
[11:12] <poison--> mars here
[11:12] <poison--> :D
[11:12] <uga> I live in your kernel's main.c
[11:12] <nelson_> uranus
[11:12] <uga> =)
[11:13] <jochen_> tach auch poison
[11:13] <poison--> !de
[11:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:13] <poison--> bye
[11:13] <jochen_> help!
[11:14] <uga> !de | jochen_
[11:14] <ubotu> jochen_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:14] <ozehka> uga: actually i should get with smb://myuser@mycomp on the samba and since myuser is in plugdev it should work right?
[11:15] <uga> ozehka: the user accessing the file system is the one running the samba service
[11:15] <uga> not the remote windows user
[11:15] <ozehka> and which user is that?
[11:15] <uga> so the samba user is the one to have permissions
[11:15] <ozehka> i can't find any samba user :P
[11:16] <uga> ozehka: I believe it's samba. Not sure, I don't run samba here
[11:16] <thomas__> stdin: hey
[11:16] <thomas__> stdin: but isn't the style tag used only in the head tag
[11:16] <stdin> thomas__: only css style
[11:17] <thomas__> stdin: but i'm not using css
[11:17] <Daisuke-Laptop> welcome to...  #html?
[11:17] <stdin> ie: you can do (something like)  <tag style="Some style in here" other-element="whatever">
[11:18] <uga> ozehka: uhm... now I'm not sure... check /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[11:18] <uga> ozehka: does it belong to samba? or to root?
[11:18] <uga> I'm thinking it may run as root, then I'm not sure what's going on =(
[11:19] <uga> ozehka: can I suggest #samba?
[11:19] <thomas__> stdin: ohh ok, i'm gonna try
[11:19] <uga> ozehka: it seems a pretty crowded channel
[11:19] <ozehka> okay
[11:19] <ozehka> thanks alot
[11:19] <uga> ozehka: let us know the result. I'm very intrigued
[11:19] <Jades> hey all
[11:19] <ozehka> uga: alright :-)
[11:20] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, haven't used samba in a LONG time...
[11:20] <uga> I only used it to share stuff with VMware
[11:20] <hitmanWilly> im 100% nix these days...
[11:20] <uga> I would be too, if damn wine was available easily for this box ;)
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[11:21] <uga> right now trying to setup VirtualBox
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> about the only thing i use wine for these days is WoW
[11:32] <analfabeta> my nvidia driver doesnt work after gutsy update from tribe 5 to beta... what i do ?
[11:32] <uga> okay, ... I give up. I can't make VirtualBox access local folders... lets upload and download through internet... isn't it silly ;)
[11:33] <uga> analfabeta: what nvidia driver were you using. deb provided one, or nvidia one?
[11:33] <CoScO> hi i looking for Pretorians invite pls can someone help me i have good offer
[11:33] <analfabeta> uga: nvidia-glx from repository.
[11:33] <uga> uhm, then I cant' tell
[11:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> wth?
[11:33] <uga> I thought you might be using the nvidia run, and would need a rebuild
[11:33] <DaSkreech> CoScO: What?
[11:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> CoScO: you're obviously in the wrong place, because no one here could possibly care any less about whatever the h*** it is you're babbling on about
[11:34] <hitmanWilly> analfabeta: check to see if it reinstalled after the kernel update
[11:34] <Daisuke-Laptop> \o/
[11:34] <analfabeta> hitmanWilly: i think no, but how i reinstall ?
[11:34] <uga> wtf was the s***t he was talking about ;)
[11:35] <hitmanWilly> analfabeta: apt-get reinstall
[11:35] <analfabeta> i remove and install again
[11:35] <analfabeta> still crashing
[11:35] <uga> analfabeta: you could try removing it and installing the nvidia release
[11:35] <uga> works fine here, in gutsy
[11:36] <hitmanWilly> analfabeta: also, when i did the gutsy update, it installed the 386 kernel as default, vice the generic one, you may want to check that as well
[11:36] <analfabeta> after install, i need do anything
[11:36] <analfabeta> ?
[11:37] <uga> after installing.... what?
[11:37] <hitmanWilly> couldn't figure out why half my hardware drivers weren't loading :)
[11:37] <analfabeta> after reinstall nvidia.glx
[11:37] <uga> hitmanWilly: I hit that problem too many times too. I wonder why it kept changing kernels
[11:37] <voicu> how can i check if a file has a valid md5 sum? (from the command line preferably)
[11:38] <uga> hitmanWilly: thankfully, on the 64bit repos there's no 386 kernel ;))
[11:38] <hitmanWilly> md5sum :)
[11:38] <hitmanWilly> uga: yes, strange about that :P
[11:38] <analfabeta> which the name of X graphic configurator ?
[11:38] <uga> uh, vi? =)
[11:38] <voicu> ok, thanks
[11:39] <hitmanWilly> lol
[11:39] <hitmanWilly> i think nvidia-xconfig is what you mean
[11:39] <analfabeta> hitmanWilly: yes
[11:39] <uga> ah heh, _that_ configurator
[11:39] <analfabeta> thanks
[11:39] <analfabeta> i will try reboot. . .
[11:39] <uga> as generally it never worked for me...
[11:40] <hitmanWilly> uga: that's ok, i use it too :)
[11:40] <uga> hitmanWilly: I got shocked that in the latest nvidia installer, it managed to set up a working xorg.conf
[11:40] <uga> first time in the last.... 5 years using nvidia?
[11:40] <hitmanWilly> uga: manually editing xorg.conf is a lot less intimidating once you've written one completely from scratch...;)
[11:40] <uga> no sorry, 4
[11:40] <uga> =)
[11:41] <hitmanWilly> but then again, im an old slack guy, so editing config files has never really bothered me
[11:43] <herve> hi all
[11:43] <herve> i am fromrwanda
[11:43] <poison--> !hi | herve
[11:43] <ubotu> herve: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:43] <herve> i installed kubund now i am enjoying it
[11:43] <poison--> :D
[11:43] <herve> hi
[11:44] <herve> thnx
[11:44] <ozehka> uga: no help so far...
[11:44] <herve> hi ubutu
[11:44] <ozehka> but i got another problem :P my DVD+RW drive is recognized in konqueror and i can also read cd/dvds but burning programs like k3b can't find any burner
[11:44] <herve> every thing is okay
[11:44] <poison--> welcome herve
[11:45] <herve> but now i am trying to install ubuntu server on sun fire x4100
[11:45] <poison--> !server
[11:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[11:45] <herve> thanx poison
[11:45] <emilsedgh> ozehka: are you sure that youre trying to write a DVD and not a CD in K3B ?
[11:45] <emilsedgh> ozehka: its a common mistake :)
[11:45] <uga> emilsedgh: k3b works fine with both CDs and DVDs
[11:45] <ozehka> emilsedgh: it can't even find a burner at startup
[11:45] <uga> and his is a dvd+rw, he said
[11:46] <herve> is sun fire x4100 support hvm for xen
[11:46] <uga> ozehka: you could try creating an iso in k3b, and then using cdrecord. You might see what the error is through cmd line
[11:46] <uga> ozehka: cdrecord -v /dev/cdrw foo.iso
[11:47] <herve> is sun fire x4100 support hvm for xen
[11:47] <uga> replace cdrw with whichever device you think it's the writer
[11:47] <herve> any idea ?
[11:47] <poison--> dunno herve
[11:47] <emilsedgh> uga: sure it does, but if you have a dvd burner and want to copy dvd, if you go to cop cd it will not find your device, because you are trying to write a dvd, i did this mistake myself so i said to ozehka
[11:47] <ozehka> its already at startup
[11:48] <herve> any one who has manage to install ubuntu on sun blad 1000
[11:48] <herve> ?
[11:48] <poison--> herve, just a sec
[11:48] <herve> ok
[11:50] <poison--> herve, think ubuntu/kubuntu works on dat rig
[11:50] <poison--> http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2006-11/sunflash.20061108.1.xml
[11:50] <herve> i failed to install via internet cz i do not have scsi cdrom
[11:50] <herve> lol
[11:51] <MrBallZ> question: is it a good idea, to wait for KDE4 to upgrade to 7.10GG ???   (after bugs and probs are worked out )
[11:51] <herve> thanx
[11:51] <MrBallZ> meaning, not upgrading until  KDE4 is out and tested for 7.10GG ....
[11:51] <sstchur> Whenever I try to use "nvidia" in my xorg.conf instead of "nv", it chokes when I try to restart X, why?
[11:51] <poison--> herve: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/sun
[11:52] <poison--> and: http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x4100/os.jsp
[11:52] <poison--> :D
[11:52] <herve> thanx
[11:52] <poison--> completely supported
[11:52] <poison--> how sweet
[11:52] <herve> let me check
[11:52] <poison--> :D
[11:52] <herve> lol
[11:52] <herve> your asl pls
[11:52] <xerxes_> helo?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> MrBallZ: What's 7.10GG?
[11:52] <xerxes_> is this kubuntuu?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> Oh Gutsy Gibbion of course :)
[11:53] <DaSkreech> xerxes_: Sure why not?
[11:53] <herve> poison, your asl
[11:53] <xerxes_> i am from china dis first tiem i us linix
[11:53] <xerxes_> it seys eror?
[11:53] <ozehka> uga: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38958/
[11:53] <herve> hi
[11:53] <poison--> asl?
[11:53] <xerxes_> wen i is stat kubuntu it seys
[11:53] <DaSkreech> MrBallZ: No KDE4 for 7.10GG So as you will
[11:53] <herve> yes
[11:53] <xerxes_> "cantot start"
[11:53] <DaSkreech> !cn
[11:53] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:53] <DaSkreech> xerxes_: ^^^ if it helps
[11:53] <xerxes_> ar u insultin my languge?
[11:53] <poison--> wow
[11:54] <DaSkreech> xerxes_: No it's just an option
[11:54] <herve> lol
[11:54] <xerxes_> my guvernmnt
[11:54] <DaSkreech> If you wish to stay here by all means do so
[11:54] <xerxes_> work hrd to censur dis pag
[11:54] <poison--> herve, whats asl?
[11:54] <xerxes_> i work hrd to bypas it
[11:54] <poison--> damn xerxes
[11:54] <herve> age sex location
[11:54] <xerxes_> yes i lik hav sex
[11:54] <DaSkreech> !coc | herve
[11:54] <ubotu> herve: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:54] <xerxes_> u too?
[11:54] <poison--> herve, jurassic, hybrid, brazil
[11:54] <poison--> :D
[11:55] <poison--> xerxes, clam down
[11:55] <jereme_> I'm having trouble when kubuntu boots it hangs on initializing the ATA for a good minute, then it gives a few ata warnings and cruises on
[11:55] <herve> thanx
[11:55] <poison--> calm even
[11:55] <jereme_> clam!
[11:55] <xerxes_> ekuse me?
[11:55] <jereme_> I'm wondering if my ATA controller is dying
[11:55] <DaSkreech> xerxes_: What won't start?
[11:55] <herve> bye all
[11:55] <jereme_> or if I'm just finding a kernel bug
[11:55] <xerxes_> I DU FKN NO
[11:55] <xerxes_> IT SEYS "CANTOT STAT"
[11:55] <poison--> eheheh
[11:55] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | xerxes_
[11:55] <ubotu> xerxes_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:55] <xerxes_> IT FKN!!!!!
[11:55] <poison--> xerxes, using a notebook?
[11:55] <ozehka> uga: I don't know why he "can't find SCSI drivers", I got no scsi drive at all :P
[11:55] <xerxes_> You're on candid camera!!!!!!!!!!
[11:55] <xerxes_> lalala
[11:55] <xerxes_> l0l
[11:55] <sstchur> uga: you still around?
[11:55] <xerxes_> l000000l
[11:56] <poison--> wtf
[11:56] <xerxes_> I was bored sorry
[11:56] <ozehka> lol
[11:56] <jereme_> wow, that's more retarded than the special olympics
[11:56] <xerxes_> ya
[11:56] <poison--> xerxes, eva tried blue pills?
[11:56] <xerxes_> No I took the yellow one
[11:56] <poison--> special olympics are cool
[11:56] <poison--> even if u win, youre still a  retard
[11:56] <poison--> lmao
[11:56] <uga> ozehka: that's because in the previous kernel versions, the only way to write CDs was through scsi interface iirc
[11:56] <xerxes_> what do you have against retards
[11:56] <uga> it was later replaced though
[11:57] <ozehka> "wodim: no such file or directory"?
[11:57] <uga> even if the drive was IDE, it was treated as if it were scsi
[11:57] <poison--> time to go home
[11:57] <poison--> l8r guys
[11:57] <poison--> cya 2morrow
[11:57] <DaSkreech> !offtopic | xerxes_, poison-- Funny please don't keep it here
[11:57] <ubotu> xerxes_, poison-- Funny please don't keep it here: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:57] <poison--> sweet nightmares uga
[11:57] <jereme_> I have nothing against mentally disabled people, I just have something against people who only act that way
[11:57] <poison--> ty stdin
[11:58] <tool> anyone know how to get my USB to serial adapter working? lsusb shows its "058f:9720 Alcor Micro Corp"
[11:58] <tool> I can't seem to find working drivers anywhere..
[11:58] <poison--> !usb
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <tool> ubotu, nothing...
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nothing... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <ozehka> uga: sudo k3b, works :P
[12:10] <uga> ozehka: you need to put your user in the correct group and log in again
[12:10] <ozehka> yeah, i think somewhen i messed up some user-group-permission-stuff...
[12:10] <uga> ozehka: the group is "cdrom"
[12:10] <uga> just edit /etc/group and add your nick to the group
[12:10] <ozehka> so i had problems with the soundserver, with sudo, etc...
[12:11] <ozehka> uga: thanks again for your help :)
[12:11] <uga> np
[12:14] <speaker219> join join leave leave
[12:16] <thomas__> stdin: u there?
[12:16] <stdin> thomas__: just about
[12:16] <thomas__> stdin: :)
[12:17] <thomas__> stdin: i got it validated
[12:17] <stdin> good :)
[12:17] <thomas__> stdin: it was for several reasons, mainly because I couldn't have <p><h1></h1></p> which is dumb I don't see why not
[12:17] <thomas__> stdin: but I can't change the font !
[12:17] <thomas__> stdin: <font face="impact" size="3" color = "pink" >
[12:18] <stdin> yeah, they should all be in some strange alien style tags now
[12:18] <ozehka> btw, do you know which distro-irc-channel is usually the biggest? #ubuntu?
[12:18] <stdin> don't know how, I still use nano to code HTML :)
[12:18] <stdin> ozehka: not a clue, and that's more for #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:19] <ozehka> :P
[12:19] <Minataku> Hm
[12:19] <DaSkreech> !html
[12:19] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[12:19] <Minataku> Dr_Willis isn't here
[12:19] <DaSkreech> wait
[12:19] <DaSkreech> #html
[12:20] <Daisuke-Laptop> heya Minataku
[12:21] <Minataku> Hi, Daisuke-Laptop
[12:22] <purpleposeidon> !nx
[12:22] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:26] <fkm> thomas__, DON'T USE <FONT>!
[12:28] <fkm> <span style="font-family:impact; font-size:3pt; color:pink;">bleh</span>
[12:28] <fkm> thomas__,
[12:28] <fkm> So, I'll get some sleep. Good night
[12:29] <thomas__> fkm: ok thank you but why not?
[12:29] <thomas__> fkm: its "decaprecated" ?
[12:29] <fkm> Jupp
[12:29] <fkm> At least in Strict
[12:29] <fkm> And strict is the way to go
[12:29] <thomas__> fkm: thank you webmaster
[12:29] <fkm> Heheh, I'm no master ;)
[12:30] <thomas__> fkm: :D sure you are
[12:30] <thomas__> fkm: for me u are
[12:30] <NickPresta> It's not only deprecated, it's stupid
[12:30] <NickPresta> why you would want to mix presentation with content, I have no idea :)
[12:30] <thomas__> NickPresta: huh? i guess i'm stupid then :S
[12:30] <fkm> If you are new to HTML directly learn "(x)HTML Strict" and "semantic markup". It's easier to learn and much better in the end :)
[12:30] <thomas__> NickPresta: but i don't know
[12:30] <ubuntu> hi
[12:31] <NickPresta> thomas__, meet me in #kubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss this further
[12:31] <fkm> Heheh, NickPresta, 100% true words! :)
[12:31] <ubuntu> is sabayon a good distro? i was going to install it
[12:31] <fkm> thomas__, No you've just learnd some bad things ;)
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: its not BAD... just different.
[12:31] <thomas__> fkm: yea i guess
[12:32] <NickPresta> ubuntu, I would compare Sabayon is to Gentoo was Ubuntu is to Debian. Fairly accurate comparison, I think
[12:32] <NickPresta> s/was/as
[12:33] <fkm> thomas__, Look for those two keyworks I gave you (HTML Strict & Semantic Markup) for your further studies and you will be on a good way :)
[12:33] <JimmyDee> as redhat is to poop
[12:33] <thomas__> fkm: ok thank you i just validated my page transitional :)
[12:33] <fkm> :)
[12:34] <thomas__> fkm: lol i like you u used "bleh"
[12:34] <fkm> Heheh :)
[12:34] <fkm> I've reached a point where I can't see foo and bar anymore ;)
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still wondering when this became #html
[12:35] <fkm> So, I got to go. Good night everybody and godspeed ;)
[12:37] <thomas__> fkm: lol i can't pm you
[12:40] <fkm> thomas__, As long as you can read the pms ;)
[12:41] <thomas__> fkm: hold on let me read