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ubotuNew bug: #145853 in soyuz "Visibly reject FTP uploads done with unrecognized keys" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14585312:56
cprovkiko, elmo: do you really think that the users will be able to track their own failures ? i doubt it.12:57
cprovwe can add the source IP  and the changesfile name (maybe content) if it helps.12:58
kikocprov, key-id, source IP and changesfile name would be okay12:59
cprovkiko: or we can forward the log output to a mailing list (!) instead of keep it in the local mbox only01:01
kikocprov, hmmm, filtered, that would not be a bad idea. 01:01
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kikocprov, do you know how the partner archive work is going?01:02
cprovkiko: yes, this morning opera got uploaded and built01:02
cprovhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/opera01:03
kikocprov, wow! that's very awesome.01:03
kikocprov, I hear that we will need to make changes to the buildds?01:03
cprovkiko: julian has a branch for you with last-minute fixes ...01:03
cprovkiko: to the chroots, to be precise01:03
kikocprov, I haven't seen it -- does it need cherry-picking?01:04
cprovkiko: but we haven't decided what exactly we will do.01:04
cprovkiko: yes, let me check the wip queue01:04
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ubotuNew bug: #145861 in malone ""Latest Bugs touched" should not list just created bugs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14586101:05
cprovkiko: it's not there, but it contains fixes in the ogre-model code and the NoMoreAF indexes perms, IIRC01:05
kikoyeah, I had assumed that01:05
cprovkiko: apart from the chroot problem, we have to run gina from a.c.c to production01:06
cprovkiko: shall I call you ?01:06
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kikocprov, gina? not before gutsy, right?01:07
kikocprov, well, my phone is dead and I have no charger!01:07
cprovkiko: where are you ?01:07
kikoin bsb01:07
cprovkiko: uhm ... well, not I believe fabio's plan is to get gutsy stuff from a.c.c into production via gina01:08
DavieyHey, are any LP dev's about who have access to the DB?01:08
cprovkiko: but I might be mistaken :(01:09
kikocprov, AFAIK fabbione is going to upload straight to launchpad -- any reason why he wouldn't?01:09
kikocprov, anyway, you can do a dogfood gina run, I guess?01:09
cprovkiko: no, a.c.c has no gutsy yet01:09
kikocprov, ah, then it's cool.01:09
kikoDaviey, Tom's on leave, so I'm waiting for him to be back in office01:10
cprovkiko: yes, gina on dogfood worked correctly, AFAIK01:10
Davieykiko: well won't matter after Sunday.. just a nuisance :(01:10
kikocprov, oh, beautiful to hear01:11
DavieyCanonical employee's should not be allowed leave.. *fact*01:12
cprovkiko: so, the only problem we have is the chroot 01:12
kikoDaviey, I tried to tell him that01:12
Daviey:)01:12
cprovkiko: the feisty-release chroot is not able to install the new version of pkgbinarymangler (that supports partner componenent correctly) uploaded to feisty-updates 01:13
kikocprov, hmm, that's terrible01:14
kikobut why?01:14
cprovkiko: that's the inconsistency cause by the assumption that 'release' pockets will be opened in partner.01:14
cprovarchive 01:14
cprovkiko: we keep partner consistent with the rest of soyuz and upload/import packages into post-release pocket of old distroseries.01:15
cprovkiko: but I don01:15
cprov't think I have any chance in this battle :(01:15
kikoI think we already lost that one01:15
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cprovok, let's deal with the side-effect01:16
cprovrelease chroots have to be modified to allow installation of packages coming from post-release pockets (the extra deb lines are passed by the buildmaster when the job is dispatched)01:17
kikocprov, for /all/ archives, not just for partner? 01:19
kikothat's evil01:19
cprovkiko: a horrible hack that work is to simply override -release chroots with the respective -updates ... nobody will notice since after release the -release chroot is not used anymore01:19
ajmitchcprov: did you mean for realplay to end up on feisty-changes? :)01:19
kikoajmitch, can I see that email?01:19
ajmitchsure, where shall I bounce it to?01:19
cprovajmitch: no, it was a test from dogfood ... 01:20
cprovajmitch: it was a *mistake* on our side.01:20
ajmitchcprov: that's what I hoped, rather than a bug01:20
cprovkiko: chroot as shared between archives, they are categorized only by (arch, series, pocket) atm.01:21
cprovajmitch: I'm really sorry for that, it might have caused a huge confusion for the readers.01:22
cprovkiko: errm, sorry,  s\as\are in my previous comment.01:23
ajmitchI don't think too many people will worry a lot01:23
kikocprov, well, the pocket is different, right?01:23
cprovkiko: no, component01:24
kikodoh.01:24
kikoright.01:24
kikodo we need per-archive chroots, now?01:24
cprovkiko: it sounds like the best solution01:24
cprovit should fallback to the primary archive chroot on lookup failures ...01:25
cprovwould it be too nasty ?01:25
kikothat sounds kinda evil01:25
ubotuNew bug: #145867 in malone "Oops for apt source package page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14586701:25
ubotuNew bug: #145868 in malone "bug indexing/searching unable to deal with 'cron.daily'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14586801:25
cprovyeah, I noticed :(01:26
kikoboth dupes, gar.01:26
kikocprov, mpt: where are our approved bug tags listed?01:36
cprovkiko: https://help.launchpad.net/TaggingLaunchpadBugs01:40
cprovhelp  ?!? it took ages to find :(01:41
kikothanks01:41
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cprovkiko: before I forget, 10s socket timeouts on buildmaster gives us 1 failure per day01:43
cprovkiko: each time a different builder ... there is no other explanation than network hiccups.01:44
kikocprov, okay, that's cool, though -- can we try 20s now?01:44
cprovkiko: I will keep watching.01:44
kikoI think we're close to seeing zero failures per day01:44
cprovkiko: really ?01:44
cprovkiko: okay, aiming for zero failures01:44
cprovkiko: done, 20s01:45
cprovkiko: I have to go, I will connect on IRC tomorrow morning as soon as get in the hotel. Call if you need.01:47
cprovg'night all.01:47
jkakarHow do I create a team for my project in Launchpad?  There doesn't seem to be an obvious 'Create Team' action anywhere.02:02
stdinjkakar: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam   got that link from https://launchpad.net/people02:03
kikoyeah.02:04
kikojkakar, where could we put that link, though?02:04
jkakarkiko: I expected to find it on the launchpad.net/<project> page actions, visible only if I'm the owner of the Team I guess.02:05
jkakarstdin: Thanks!02:05
kikojkakar, but teams are orthogonal to projects!02:06
jkakarkiko: Well.  Yeah, I can see how that's true, but it also seems that often teams represent the people working on a project.02:08
jkakarkiko: At least, the few teams I'm a part of work like that.  In fact, 'Create project team' would be nice on the project page.  It would create a team and set it as the maintainer for the project in one go.02:09
jkakarI guess you can already do that from the 'Change maintainer' page, though.02:10
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ubotuNew bug: #145894 in launchpad-bazaar ""Fault 8002" when pushing a branch to an unregistered project" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14589403:01
kikojkakar, tricky, isn't it?03:07
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!05:02
lifelesswhere!05:02
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mpt"Anyone Has a Fisherman" would be a great name for a band05:14
fabbionekiko: ping?05:25
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pooliehi06:49
pooliei'm again getting a page loading for many minutes, without an oops timeout06:49
pooliethis time it is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/128456/nominations/1474/+editstatus06:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 128456 in bzr "bzr+https is not a supported protocol" [Low,Triaged]  06:49
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=== #launchpad [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
ubotuNew bug: #146193 in launchpad "wish: wikitext for homepage" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14619309:35
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ubotuNew bug: #146237 in launchpad "Not accepting additional spaces in string" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14623712:20
iwjBjornT: Thanks for your investigations about those lost mails.12:27
stubkiko: It is not totally doom and gloom - if we had a catastrophic failure of the db on jubany right now we could recover - it would involve surgery on the database dumps and some consulting fees but the information is still there. But I still think the backups are a top priority.12:35
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bogglehow can I see the diff between a revision in a branch and it's parent branch in LP?12:41
mwhboggle: give me an example?12:42
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bogglemwh: for merge proposal, see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-training/ubuntu-desktop-course/ubuntu-desktop-course-beta12:43
mwhah well12:44
mwhi think the answer here is "wait a couple of releases"12:44
kikomwh, no, it's more like "pull the parent branch, merge your code into it and diff." :-/12:46
bogglehe he12:46
mwhkiko: that hardly satisfies the "in LP" part12:46
mwhbut yes, for now that's what you need to do12:46
kikoits parent branch is in LP! :)12:46
mwhwell12:47
mwhwhen the code review thing is all done and dusted, this will be very slick and all lp based12:47
mwh(though somehow i doubt we'll be able to duplicate meld in a web browser...)12:48
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slytherinIs it possible to request removal of a package form ppa?01:17
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kikoslytherin, not at the moment, but it will be for the next release. you can upload a new version and the old one gets automatically superseded and removed, though.01:22
slytherinkiko: that is my problem, I choose wrong version for the old package I created. And now after I have created package by merging with debian package, old one supersedes new one. :-(01:23
slytherinkiko: Anyway, I have hosted the package somewhere else for the moment.01:24
kikoslytherin, maybe you could use an epoch. warning: I don't know what I am talkiing about.01:24
kikocould he use an epoch?01:24
Hobbseekiko: yes, he could use an epoch01:25
kikothanks Hobbsee 01:25
Hobbseekiko: it's still somewhat evil, though01:25
Hobbseekiko: as in, makes it harder to merge each time, as debian's will always appear lower01:25
kikoright, it will require some manual effort.01:26
Hobbseeslytherin: what you could do is your-version+really-debian-version-etc01:26
Hobbseeslytherin: which only makes you do it until upstream releases a new version, so that debian then supercedes your botched version.01:26
slytherinHobbsee: Ok. Thanks for the info. Anyway, I just wanted the latets package to be available somewhere for discussion among developers and google page creator came to rescue. :-D01:27
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Hobbseeslytherin: ah, cool01:32
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ubotuNew bug: #146289 in kde-i18n "Translations for non main packages are discarded" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14628903:10
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ubotuNew bug: #146302 in launchpad "Clean up ProductSeries naming properties" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14630204:00
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ubotuNew bug: #146334 in launchpad "Firefox decompresses tarballs from launchpad (dup-of: 102652)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14633404:46
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AlexLatchfordHowdy guys, I am currently leaving for a few months. I wish to not be notified through email about bugs and code I am involved in, is there a way to do this without changing my default email address or not?05:27
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intellectronicaAlexLatchford: i think your best bet is to filter the email05:29
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bdmurrayIs there a +text for blueprints?06:43
kikobdmurray, nope, but you can ask for one06:50
bdmurraykiko: okay, I recall using the "api" tag but what product should that bug be filed about?06:51
kikobdmurray, blueprint :)06:52
bdmurraykiko: I was hoping for a cool code name like malone or . . .06:53
gnomefreakdoes LP handle the shipit site?07:01
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ubotuNew bug: #146384 in soyuz "germinate for hppa" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14638407:06
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kikognomefreak, yes, it does.07:11
gnomefreakkiko: ShipIt is currently closed while we prepare for the Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) release. We'll be back in a few days.  should read 7.10 gutsy gibbon maybe?07:12
kikognomefreak, yeah, it's a bug, but I think salgado has it nailed :)07:12
gnomefreakkiko: ok ty :)07:13
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salgadognomefreak, kiko, yeah, it's fixed already. we only need a cherry pick07:14
gnomefreaksalgado: ty just figured it was a typo not so much a bug07:15
kikosalgado, I approved, right?07:15
salgadokiko, you did, but we'll have to wait for tom07:16
ubotuNew bug: #146382 in postgresql-8.2 "A tsvector can make database dumps unrestorable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14638207:16
ubotuNew bug: #146389 in blueprint "api for blueprint tracker" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14638907:16
kikobright07:17
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ubotuNew bug: #146441 in malone "Cancel a build queue in ppa" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14644110:00
ubotuNew bug: #146444 in malone "remove file from PPA" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14644410:05
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stdinis there something up with the PPA build system?: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9553072/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.kde-style-qtcurve_0.54.0-0%7Eppa1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz11:24
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DavieyAny LP admins around?12:07
Daviey*urgent*12:07
Daviey-- well semi12:07
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MadMan2kHi, Ive got some questions regading PPA12:11
MadMan2kare there some kind of stats available, so I can see which of my packages are popular?12:11
MadMan2kand is there a way to create my own sections?12:12
MadMan2kI want to backport xserver1.4 and seperate it from the less dangerous stuff12:12
Davieyjamesh_: are you about?12:13
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Davieyor BjornT 12:14
bastianhello12:14
jkakar_Is there a way to specify the e-mail address that receives PPA-related notifications?  It's currently set to our team address which has our mailing list address as it's e-mail address.12:15
bastianI have found a problem with eog but I'm not sure wether to call it a bug12:15
Davieybastian: raise it anyway and let others decide :)12:15
bastianIf I open an image with eog, which is in a folder together with a very big image, eog will fill up my ram, that ubuntu will freeze if I don't react quickly enough12:16
Davieyhow can that not be a bug?12:16
bastianhmm, might be a feature that other images are loaded12:17
Daviey"ubuntu will freeze" ... sounds like a bug12:17
sorenAnything that might cause your machine to freeze is a bug.12:17
sorenBadly implemented or not well thought out features can very easily constitute a bug.12:18
bastianIt "freezes", because my ram gets filled up12:18
sorenJust because it's easy to figure out why  it12:18
soren's breaking doesn't make it any less of a bug :)12:18
bastianIs there a tutorial, how to report bugs correctly in launchpad?12:19
sorenNo. Launchpad helps you a bit, though.12:19
Davieyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs12:19
bastianthx12:19
sorenhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+filebug12:20
sorenDaviey: wow, I had no idea there was such a document. Go figure :)12:20
Davieysoren: ftw -> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=launchpad+report+a+bug+wiki&btnG=Search&meta=12:20
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Davieythumper: ping12:28
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Davieyjamesh_: ping12:43
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