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superm1kylem, you around possibly?05:01
kylemyo05:01
kylemjust about to wander off to watch tv,what's up?05:02
superm1awesome. well i wanted to just ask you quickly if something appears to be unionfs related to you05:02
kylemok05:02
superm1and if so, if there is anything i can do to help debug / fix it, because its holding back our mythbuntu beta disk05:02
superm1if you look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/144395, we encounter issues at the same time as pitti05:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144395 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "unionfs oopses for http processes" [Undecided,New]  05:03
superm1but we dont get a kernel oops necessarily 05:03
superm1problem is that its transient, and we'll just get a flat out hang of the process some times, an oops others, and functions others05:04
kylemhrm.05:04
superm1in an attempt to make sure it wasnt ubiquity or python-apt, i updated both on an older live cd session from before all the new unionfs stuff05:04
superm1and things appeared to work05:04
kylemyeah, it definitely looks like a unionfs bug. :(05:05
kylemsigh.05:05
superm1well anything i can do to help, just let me know.  its our last remaining issue for the disk :)05:06
lifelessis it just me, or is unionfs fragile ?05:06
kylemclearly it's just you05:06
superm1haha05:06
kylemsuperm1, i'll see if i can puzzle it out in the morning.05:07
superm1awesome thanks. 05:07
superm1i'll be on irc throughout the day if there is anything i can do to help05:08
kylemok05:08
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reya276I got a quick question? is Gutsy going to have the 2.6.23 kernal upon release05:11
kylemno.05:12
kylem2.6.2205:12
reya276is it possible someone can help me create a custom kernel, because I need to get a Wacom Bamboo Tablet which will only work on 2.6.23 kernel05:13
reya276no one in the regular #ubuntu channel knows how to do it05:13
IntuitiveNipplereya276: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance05:14
kylemno, i don't have time to walk you through that. there's probably a document on the wiki that will help you.05:14
reya276kylem:maybe you can answer this for me, if I connect a USB device such as the named tablet should it not stay on?05:15
kylem'stay on'?05:15
reya276yes the Tablet has a Circle which lights up when connected to the PC and it should stay on, but for some reason Ubuntu 7.04 disconnects it05:16
mjg59Should be fixed in gutsy05:17
kylemmjg59, autosuspend?05:17
mjg59Yeah05:17
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reya276I have installed and configured the driver and when I check the driver is there but when I do "more /proc/bus/usb/devices" and it list the Wacon device it says "Driver=(none)"05:18
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mjg59Sounds like the driver is broken05:18
reya276really, how can I remove it and then install it again05:19
reya276because maybe it was not installed correctly05:19
mjg59reya276: This isn't really the place to ask. I'd check if the driver provides a support forum.05:19
reya276ok, thanks05:20
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IntuitiveNippleBuilding l-r-m and getting "FGLRXExtensions.c:16:35: error: X11/extensions/record.h: No such file or directory" but libxext-dev is installed; what libraries am I missing?05:22
mjg59x11proto-xext-dev05:23
IntuitiveNipplethanks :)05:23
mjg59Oh, no, x11proto-record-dev05:23
IntuitiveNippleI was thinking I'd got to go and try each one05:23
IntuitiveNipplehmm, no x11proto-record-dev listed, let me check05:23
IntuitiveNipplewell, apt-get found that one, but synaptics wasn't listing it when I was browsing... now to solve these others05:25
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IntuitiveNippleHmm, building L-R-M it stops with "Makefile.inc:66: *** /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-12-rt is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop." - is there a way to specify just one flavour (tried debian/rules binary generic) ?05:35
IntuitiveNippleOr, do I need to have all kernel flavours built to build L-R-M ?05:36
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IntuitiveNippleOK... edited L-R-M's debian/rules and altered the flavours definitions for the ARCH (in this case x86_64), from "...,generic rt xen)" to "..,generic)"05:45
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-12.39 | Latest news: -Beta freeze upon us | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com
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Lureany reason wy usg disk devices would not be detected if pluged during boot (it works if plugged in later)?10:18
Lures/wy/why/10:18
fabbioneLure: events generated after all userland is started vs something discovered before userland is ready to "autodetect" / mount10:28
Lurefabbione: any way to rescan? currently I need to replug the devices10:29
Lurefabbione: also some users said it is regression compared to feusty (which I am not sure)10:29
fabbionedunno10:29
fabbioneno it was in feisty too iirc10:29
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defcon_http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Flinville%2Fwireless-dev.git&a=search&h=rt2x00&st=commit&s=rt73 <-- why cant ubuntu use the updated driver because the old ones are flawed?12:37
defcon_im upset that ubuntu never fixed this problem12:37
defcon_ubuntu has rt73/ralink drivers that never worked properly for most people12:37
defcon_https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/34902 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/14623812:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 146238 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Ralink Drivers do not work out of the box on Ubuntu Gutsy Beta" [Undecided,New]  12:38
TheMusodefcon_: Like cjwatson said in -devel, we get the point. He assigned the bug to a more appropriate package, and badgering people about it day after day is not likely to see it fixed any quicker.12:39
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zulmorning02:23
amitkinteresting --> http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/CFS_Development_Tree_Backported02:26
zulamitk: yeah I already opened a bug about that ;)02:26
zulnot02:29
sorenIs there a simple way to see the diff between the ubuntu kernel and the vanilla one on which it's based?02:43
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zulgitweb?02:45
sorenzul: Yes, what about it?02:45
amitksoren: git log <Linus-tag> <Ubuntu-tag>02:45
amitkerm, git log <Linus-tag>..<Ubuntu-tag> 02:46
sorenamitk: Ok. Which version are we based on anyway? 02:46
amitksoren: 2.6.22.902:46
sorenOh, really?02:47
amitksoren: you can see the tags with 'git tag -l'02:47
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sorenamitk: Alright, thanks!02:47
sorenamitk: I just cloned git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git  and did a 'git tag -l' in the resulting directory.. It lists all the 2.6.22 rc's, but not the 2.6.22.x releases? 02:54
rtgsoren: have you used gitk? It kind of shows the merge relationships.02:57
sorenrtg: Uh, nice. didn't know about that.03:00
rtgsoren: Its not too bad with a simple, almost linear tree. You should look at Linus main tree. Sometimes I get lost in all of the merge branches.03:01
sorenHm... There doesn't seem to be any delta between the vanilla kernel and ours in the lsilogic driver.. Odd. bug 14076103:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140761 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Ubuntu 7.10 Alpha Gust OS does not recognize a lun with non zero target id on Vmware ESX Server" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14076103:01
rtgsoren: Gutsy is a superset of the vanilla kernel.03:02
sorenrtg: Right. Nevertheless, the mpt* stuff in our kernel seems to be identical to the one in the vanilla kernel, which strikes me as odd considering the last comment on that bug.03:04
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rtgnow thats hard to believe :)03:05
sorenI just (wrongly) assumed this was an lsilogic issue. It seems to affect all scsi controllers?03:07
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rtgsoren: That could well be. Is it a reasonable workaround to not use non-zero LUN's ?03:15
sorenrtg: In vmware perhaps, but in real life I'm not so sure.03:18
rtgsoren: right, they aren't exactly configurable in real life. 03:18
IntuitiveNippleI'm debugging some hibernate issues; Is there a kernel-function I can call to flush the buffer-cache late in the hibernate routines to ensure printk()s get captured even when the hibernate fails (the PC freezes prior to swsusp writing any data to disk)03:18
pinskianfor openswan is there any change required at the router ? or just opening a port like openvpn is enough ?03:29
pinskiansolved03:42
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pinskiananyone awake04:05
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amitkprobably busy testing Gutsy Beta04:08
pinskianah04:09
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rtgmjg59: You around? Can you give me an opinion about the patch in bug #144336 ?08:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 144336 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ACPI acpi_scan_rsdp() breaks some PCs by not honouring ACPI specification" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14433608:26
mjg59rtg: Looks correct08:31
rtgmjg59: Thanks. I'll suck it in.08:31
rtgmjg59: I added your SOB to the commit.08:40
mjg59rtg: Thanks08:42
zulrtg: sob?08:42
rtgSigned off by08:42
rtgIts all in the context of how you use it, huh?08:43
zulyep08:45
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Lutinhi there09:00
rtgkylem: Could you review bug #133666 ? I leery of applying this patch at this point in the development cycle.09:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133666 in linux "please patch linux-source-2.6.22 to fix ata_piix bug" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13366609:08
Lutincould someone have a look at bug #129910 please ?09:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6]  are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12991009:08
kylemok09:09
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maks_kylem: can confirm that we load fbcon in scripts/init-top/framebuffer on the debian side09:18
maks_if fb is used09:18
Lutinmaks_: the issue here is that it's not in the initramfs09:20
maks_hooks/kernelextras adds it for fbcon=y usage09:20
maks_(still disclaimer of the debian side ;)09:21
Lutinmaks_: yeah, but here is the point :) in ubuntu the scripts for any *fb) module. which can't be found, as the framebuffer is not a module in gutsy :)09:22
mjg59Because somebody changed the config for no obvious reason09:22
mjg59BenC: I thought you were changing that back? :)09:23
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