=== bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1CCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-088-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.255.214] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1ccc:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === phoenixx [n=phoenix@144022.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.236.52] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1CCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === imbrandon [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:01] kylem, you around possibly? [05:01] yo [05:02] just about to wander off to watch tv,what's up? [05:02] awesome. well i wanted to just ask you quickly if something appears to be unionfs related to you [05:02] ok [05:02] and if so, if there is anything i can do to help debug / fix it, because its holding back our mythbuntu beta disk [05:03] if you look at https://launchpad.net/bugs/144395, we encounter issues at the same time as pitti [05:03] Launchpad bug 144395 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "unionfs oopses for http processes" [Undecided,New] [05:03] but we dont get a kernel oops necessarily [05:04] problem is that its transient, and we'll just get a flat out hang of the process some times, an oops others, and functions others [05:04] hrm. [05:04] in an attempt to make sure it wasnt ubiquity or python-apt, i updated both on an older live cd session from before all the new unionfs stuff [05:04] and things appeared to work [05:05] yeah, it definitely looks like a unionfs bug. :( [05:05] sigh. [05:06] well anything i can do to help, just let me know. its our last remaining issue for the disk :) [05:06] is it just me, or is unionfs fragile ? [05:06] clearly it's just you [05:06] haha [05:07] superm1, i'll see if i can puzzle it out in the morning. [05:07] awesome thanks. [05:08] i'll be on irc throughout the day if there is anything i can do to help [05:08] ok === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === reya276 [n=reya276@c-66-229-41-100.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:11] I got a quick question? is Gutsy going to have the 2.6.23 kernal upon release [05:12] no. [05:12] 2.6.22 [05:13] is it possible someone can help me create a custom kernel, because I need to get a Wacom Bamboo Tablet which will only work on 2.6.23 kernel [05:13] no one in the regular #ubuntu channel knows how to do it [05:14] reya276: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance [05:14] no, i don't have time to walk you through that. there's probably a document on the wiki that will help you. [05:15] kylem:maybe you can answer this for me, if I connect a USB device such as the named tablet should it not stay on? [05:15] 'stay on'? [05:16] yes the Tablet has a Circle which lights up when connected to the PC and it should stay on, but for some reason Ubuntu 7.04 disconnects it [05:17] Should be fixed in gutsy [05:17] mjg59, autosuspend? [05:17] Yeah === kylem nods. [05:18] I have installed and configured the driver and when I check the driver is there but when I do "more /proc/bus/usb/devices" and it list the Wacon device it says "Driver=(none)" === mjg59 shrugs [05:18] Sounds like the driver is broken [05:19] really, how can I remove it and then install it again [05:19] because maybe it was not installed correctly [05:19] reya276: This isn't really the place to ask. I'd check if the driver provides a support forum. [05:20] ok, thanks === reya276 [n=reya276@c-66-229-41-100.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [05:22] Building l-r-m and getting "FGLRXExtensions.c:16:35: error: X11/extensions/record.h: No such file or directory" but libxext-dev is installed; what libraries am I missing? [05:23] x11proto-xext-dev [05:23] thanks :) [05:23] Oh, no, x11proto-record-dev [05:23] I was thinking I'd got to go and try each one [05:23] hmm, no x11proto-record-dev listed, let me check [05:25] well, apt-get found that one, but synaptics wasn't listing it when I was browsing... now to solve these others === phoenixx [n=phoenix@144022.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:35] Hmm, building L-R-M it stops with "Makefile.inc:66: *** /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-12-rt is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop." - is there a way to specify just one flavour (tried debian/rules binary generic) ? [05:36] Or, do I need to have all kernel flavours built to build L-R-M ? === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:45] OK... edited L-R-M's debian/rules and altered the flavours definitions for the ARCH (in this case x86_64), from "...,generic rt xen)" to "..,generic)" === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-12.39 | Latest news: -Beta freeze upon us | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Sun Sep 23 17:11:47 2007 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@19-112.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:18] any reason wy usg disk devices would not be detected if pluged during boot (it works if plugged in later)? [10:18] s/wy/why/ [10:28] Lure: events generated after all userland is started vs something discovered before userland is ready to "autodetect" / mount [10:29] fabbione: any way to rescan? currently I need to replug the devices [10:29] fabbione: also some users said it is regression compared to feusty (which I am not sure) [10:29] dunno [10:29] no it was in feisty too iirc === n0u [i=Chaton@unaffiliated/nou] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gicmo [n=gicmo@91.64.103.36] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [n=csr21@86.59.123.146] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defcon_ [n=defcon@71-36-162-36.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:37] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux%2Fkernel%2Fgit%2Flinville%2Fwireless-dev.git&a=search&h=rt2x00&st=commit&s=rt73 <-- why cant ubuntu use the updated driver because the old ones are flawed? [12:37] im upset that ubuntu never fixed this problem [12:37] ubuntu has rt73/ralink drivers that never worked properly for most people [12:38] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/34902 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/146238 [12:38] Launchpad bug 146238 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Ralink Drivers do not work out of the box on Ubuntu Gutsy Beta" [Undecided,New] [12:39] defcon_: Like cjwatson said in -devel, we get the point. He assigned the bug to a more appropriate package, and badgering people about it day after day is not likely to see it fixed any quicker. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.255.208] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pinskian [n=sadv@unaffiliated/pina] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:23] morning [02:26] interesting --> http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/CFS_Development_Tree_Backported [02:26] amitk: yeah I already opened a bug about that ;) [02:29] not [02:43] Is there a simple way to see the diff between the ubuntu kernel and the vanilla one on which it's based? === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:45] gitweb? [02:45] zul: Yes, what about it? [02:45] soren: git log [02:46] erm, git log .. [02:46] amitk: Ok. Which version are we based on anyway? [02:46] soren: 2.6.22.9 [02:47] Oh, really? [02:47] soren: you can see the tags with 'git tag -l' === amitk --> lunch === soren is still waiting for the git clone to finish [02:47] amitk: Alright, thanks! [02:54] amitk: I just cloned git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git and did a 'git tag -l' in the resulting directory.. It lists all the 2.6.22 rc's, but not the 2.6.22.x releases? [02:57] soren: have you used gitk? It kind of shows the merge relationships. [03:00] rtg: Uh, nice. didn't know about that. [03:01] soren: Its not too bad with a simple, almost linear tree. You should look at Linus main tree. Sometimes I get lost in all of the merge branches. [03:01] Hm... There doesn't seem to be any delta between the vanilla kernel and ours in the lsilogic driver.. Odd. bug 140761 [03:01] Launchpad bug 140761 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Ubuntu 7.10 Alpha Gust OS does not recognize a lun with non zero target id on Vmware ESX Server" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140761 [03:02] soren: Gutsy is a superset of the vanilla kernel. [03:04] rtg: Right. Nevertheless, the mpt* stuff in our kernel seems to be identical to the one in the vanilla kernel, which strikes me as odd considering the last comment on that bug. === soren is being an idiot. [03:05] now thats hard to believe :) [03:07] I just (wrongly) assumed this was an lsilogic issue. It seems to affect all scsi controllers? === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:15] soren: That could well be. Is it a reasonable workaround to not use non-zero LUN's ? [03:18] rtg: In vmware perhaps, but in real life I'm not so sure. [03:18] soren: right, they aren't exactly configurable in real life. [03:18] I'm debugging some hibernate issues; Is there a kernel-function I can call to flush the buffer-cache late in the hibernate routines to ensure printk()s get captured even when the hibernate fails (the PC freezes prior to swsusp writing any data to disk) [03:29] for openswan is there any change required at the router ? or just opening a port like openvpn is enough ? [03:42] solved === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF3ED2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:05] anyone awake === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:08] probably busy testing Gutsy Beta [04:09] ah === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.215.105] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mvo [n=egon@p54A67C68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cofeineSunshine_ [n=justinas@78-60-219-253.ip.zebra.lt] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === stgraber [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [n=csr21@62.218.228.5] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:26] mjg59: You around? Can you give me an opinion about the patch in bug #144336 ? [08:26] Launchpad bug 144336 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ACPI acpi_scan_rsdp() breaks some PCs by not honouring ACPI specification" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144336 [08:31] rtg: Looks correct [08:31] mjg59: Thanks. I'll suck it in. [08:40] mjg59: I added your SOB to the commit. [08:42] rtg: Thanks [08:42] rtg: sob? [08:42] Signed off by [08:43] Its all in the context of how you use it, huh? [08:45] yep === Lutin [n=Lutin@dunnewind.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:00] hi there [09:08] kylem: Could you review bug #133666 ? I leery of applying this patch at this point in the development cycle. [09:08] Launchpad bug 133666 in linux "please patch linux-source-2.6.22 to fix ata_piix bug" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133666 [09:08] could someone have a look at bug #129910 please ? [09:08] Launchpad bug 129910 in initramfs-tools "tty[1-6] are active but display nothing in Gutsy" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129910 [09:09] ok === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@mylar.outflux.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:18] kylem: can confirm that we load fbcon in scripts/init-top/framebuffer on the debian side [09:18] if fb is used [09:20] maks_: the issue here is that it's not in the initramfs [09:20] hooks/kernelextras adds it for fbcon=y usage [09:21] (still disclaimer of the debian side ;) [09:22] maks_: yeah, but here is the point :) in ubuntu the scripts for any *fb) module. which can't be found, as the framebuffer is not a module in gutsy :) [09:22] Because somebody changed the config for no obvious reason [09:23] BenC: I thought you were changing that back? :) === l_ [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pina [n=ant@unaffiliated/pina] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.212.43] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-105-82.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [n=csr21@84-51-132-95.christ977.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === TheMuso_ [n=luke@ppp59-167-19-35.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel