| laga | no | 01:20 |
|---|---|---|
| laga | been busy hacking at stuff | 01:20 |
| laga | hum | 01:22 |
| laga | every time i do /topic | 01:22 |
| Daviey | bug | 01:22 |
| laga | i think: one day i'm gonna vandalize it. | 01:22 |
| brunner | that's strange... my 140GB drive shows up as free space in the partitioner | 01:24 |
| brunner | it should have an ext2 partition | 01:25 |
| brunner | Fuck. I just installed with a hostname of chris-desktop | 01:50 |
| brunner | whoops | 01:50 |
| laga | ;) | 01:55 |
| brunner | damn this low-rez TV screen | 01:56 |
| brunner | and damn the FCC for hampering the free market and causing me to have a low rez TV screen | 01:57 |
| laga | "free market"? | 01:57 |
| brunner | well, would-be free market | 01:57 |
| laga | i bet that the free market would consist of getting your tongue cut out if you mentioned the word "tivo" if it wasn't for the FCC | 01:58 |
| therethinker | did anything happen while I was gone? | 01:58 |
| brunner | laga: why would that be the case? | 01:58 |
| laga | brunner: well, AFAIK is regulating the cable/media companies to make sure they're not completely locking out their customers | 01:59 |
| laga | but what do i know, i'm not from the US | 02:02 |
| therethinker2 | okay, any bugs? | 02:02 |
| therethinker2 | I want to start with adding something, to get to know it, rather than rewriting | 02:03 |
| therethinker2 | oh, does anyone know how to add in shell? | 02:06 |
| laga | like | 02:07 |
| laga | maths in bash? | 02:07 |
| therethinker2 | yeah | 02:07 |
| laga | echo $((2+2)) | 02:07 |
| therethinker2 | I want to increment an envi. variable | 02:07 |
| laga | ought to work | 02:08 |
| laga | echo $(($FOO+2)) | 02:08 |
| laga | 4 | 02:08 |
| laga | yup | 02:08 |
| therethinker2 | Ahhh | 02:08 |
| laga | superm1: you here? | 02:08 |
| therethinker2 | Yay! Worked | 02:08 |
| therethinker2 | I just have a script that makes a new directory, downloads the latest branch, builds and installs it | 02:11 |
| laga | cool | 02:12 |
| therethinker2 | but what needs to be done, other than neatining up? | 02:12 |
| laga | does it increment the version number as well? | 02:13 |
| laga | ok | 02:13 |
| laga | what needs to be done | 02:13 |
| laga | hum | 02:13 |
| laga | superm1 might have some ideas... | 02:13 |
| laga | personally i'd like to add some performance tuning stuff to mythbuntu. | 02:13 |
| therethinker | Okay | 02:13 |
| laga | eg the ability to modify the fstab to include an allocsize= mount option to avoid fragmentation | 02:14 |
| therethinker | It doesn't do it based on the version number in bazaar, but it just goes by whenever you run the script. I'm sure if I had time, I could do that, but this is just really quick | 02:14 |
| therethinker | Okay | 02:14 |
| laga | possibly only for the file system which holds /var/lib/mythtv/recordings | 02:14 |
| laga | but that's probably a rather big task | 02:14 |
| laga | therethinker: if you install devscripts, you can do "dch -v 1.3.37-mine "my changelog entry"" and be done | 02:15 |
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| laga | well, what do _you_ like to see in the control centre? | 02:16 |
| therethinker | What? If you haven't noticed by lack of knowledge, I'm new to bazaar, so I'm a tad (scratch that, very) slow | 02:16 |
| laga | therethinker: sudo aptitude install devscripts | 02:17 |
| therethinker | hmm... I'll look around, | 02:17 |
| laga | that's a bunch of helper scripts for debian package maintainers | 02:17 |
| therethinker2 | oh, thats awesome | 02:17 |
| laga | use dch -v to set a new version number for the debian package | 02:17 |
| laga | and use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot to build afterwards | 02:17 |
| therethinker2 | okay | 02:17 |
| therethinker2 | sorry I keep switching users, I hope its not too confusing :P | 02:18 |
| laga | no problem | 02:18 |
| chuk | any eta on new mythbuntu CD? this week? | 02:22 |
| laga | chuk: likely | 02:22 |
| laga | my perl-fu is weak. | 02:27 |
| Daviey | perl blows | 02:28 |
| Daviey | I've never liked perl | 02:28 |
| laga | what do you use? | 02:28 |
| Daviey | Well I'm a C++ / Java Coder | 02:28 |
| laga | oh | 02:29 |
| Daviey | scripting, bash or python :) | 02:29 |
| laga | ah, ypthon. so we have another mcc victim :) | 02:29 |
| Daviey | but my python is pretty weak tbh | 02:29 |
| laga | python* | 02:29 |
| laga | mine is worse... | 02:29 |
| laga | not sure if my perl or my python is worse | 02:30 |
| laga | i think it's python | 02:30 |
| Daviey | well perl sucks rocks | 02:30 |
| laga | heh | 02:30 |
| Daviey | it's such an illogical language | 02:30 |
| laga | that's probably what i like about it | 02:31 |
| laga | not sure why my stuff is breaking, though | 02:31 |
| Daviey | cause you suck? | 02:31 |
| laga | it's interesting how everyone in here is harassing me. :> | 02:31 |
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| Daviey | At least you aint German... that would be really unfortuante | 02:32 |
| laga | yes | 02:32 |
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| laga | having such a great vriety of beer available would kill me | 02:32 |
| laga | s/vriety/variety/ | 02:32 |
| Daviey | weiss beer ftw | 02:32 |
| laga | i probably like perl because it doesn't matter how i spell stuff | 02:33 |
| therethinker | :P | 02:33 |
| Daviey | laga: Have you ever been to the Munich beer halls? | 02:33 |
| laga | no | 02:33 |
| laga | it's teh suck | 02:33 |
| laga | only stupid british tourists find it interesting | 02:33 |
| Daviey | yup | 02:33 |
| Daviey | but then, that's cause we have class | 02:33 |
| === Daviey huggles laga | ||
| laga | yes. puking british tourists, that's what i call class | 02:34 |
| laga | heh | 02:34 |
| Daviey | And what are the cycle paths all about eh? | 02:35 |
| === laga checks for new jokes on sickipedia | ||
| Daviey | ding ding ding... "get out of the way" | 02:35 |
| laga | heh | 02:35 |
| laga | well, WE care about people who can't afford a car | 02:35 |
| Daviey | why? | 02:36 |
| Daviey | Geez, i didn't know sikipedia existed.. thanks! :) | 02:36 |
| laga | yes | 02:36 |
| laga | it's awesome | 02:37 |
| laga | if you are a sick fuck | 02:37 |
| laga | <3 sickipedia | 02:37 |
| Daviey | <------------ | 02:37 |
| Daviey | Oh... some are sick | 02:37 |
| therethinker | Wow, this does a lot in such little code | 02:44 |
| therethinker | Is all the changing done by some other component? | 02:44 |
| therethinker | and its just a GUI to launch these things? | 02:44 |
| laga | therethinker: changing is done in changer.py | 02:44 |
| therethinker | still... | 02:45 |
| therethinker | but okay | 02:45 |
| === laga curses | ||
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| === therethinker2 likes talking in 3rd person! | ||
| laga | oh, just coding perl and messing around with hashes | 03:04 |
| laga | looks like some data has some additional presents attached | 03:05 |
| laga | spaces or newlines | 03:05 |
| therethinker2 | ah | 03:05 |
| therethinker2 | BTW: you cursed for exactly 50 seconds, thats quick! | 03:05 |
| laga | channel="1.orf.at " | 03:05 |
| laga | heh | 03:05 |
| laga | does anyone know what 
 means? | 03:05 |
| laga | so, are you doing anything to mcc currently? | 03:06 |
| therethinker2 | I'm looking it over | 03:06 |
| therethinker2 | trying to be one with the code | 03:07 |
| laga | ah, yes | 03:07 |
| laga | the old black leather coat thing | 03:07 |
| therethinker2 | waiting for the moment when I think that "self.sleep(10)" means I get a 10 minute break | 03:07 |
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| === therethinker2 considers putting in self.fix_line(618) | ||
| laga | what's wrong? | 03:09 |
| therethinker2 | nothing, just a random line :P | 03:09 |
| laga | heh | 03:10 |
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| superm1 | laga, stilll around? | 03:37 |
| laga | ye | 03:37 |
| laga | s | 03:37 |
| superm1 | i figured out why it kept asking me to redo my auth status | 03:37 |
| superm1 | small oversight on your part | 03:37 |
| superm1 | very small actually | 03:37 |
| laga | ? | 03:38 |
| superm1 | i'll commit it right now | 03:38 |
| superm1 | and you can see | 03:38 |
| laga | k | 03:38 |
| superm1 | revno68 has it | 03:39 |
| laga | duh | 03:41 |
| laga | thanks :/ | 03:41 |
| superm1 | silly eh? | 03:42 |
| laga | yes | 03:42 |
| superm1 | i'm really wondering why that worked on your box though | 03:42 |
| superm1 | makes little sense | 03:42 |
| superm1 | do you have any other items to get in? If no, i'm going to prep debian/changelog and debian/rules to push this to the archive | 03:43 |
| laga | right.. i was storing a boolean variable as a string and forgot to conver it back to boolean | 03:43 |
| laga | TBH, it totally sucks that configparser cant do this natively | 03:43 |
| superm1 | well that configparser isn't usually used for this | 03:43 |
| superm1 | it was just a convenient structure | 03:43 |
| superm1 | that would be conducive to saving settings later | 03:43 |
| laga | superm1: i'd like to jclean it up a bit maybe and add some sanity checks here and there. can you push it tomorrow? | 03:43 |
| laga | yes | 03:44 |
| superm1 | as long as you promise not to break anything else sure :) | 03:44 |
| laga | but still, i should be able to save "yes"/"no" with configparser without converting them to strings beforehand *shrug* | 03:44 |
| laga | heh | 03:44 |
| laga | xmltv grabber is fixed, too | 03:44 |
| superm1 | big productive day today eh? | 03:44 |
| laga | now it's outputting nice xmltv ids | 03:44 |
| laga | same as yesterday | 03:44 |
| laga | you get that effect if you spend ~14h coding even if you can't actually do it ;) | 03:45 |
| superm1 | haha | 03:45 |
| superm1 | yeah | 03:45 |
| superm1 | okay well looking at the list of things to hit upon before beta, only two things left. | 03:45 |
| superm1 | push these to the archives | 03:45 |
| superm1 | and stop apt from freezing in ubiquity | 03:45 |
| laga | is xfce sane now? | 03:45 |
| superm1 | in theory yeah | 03:46 |
| laga | good | 03:46 |
| superm1 | there is a small bug that nm-applet starts over and over | 03:46 |
| superm1 | if you save settings upon logout | 03:46 |
| superm1 | but otherwise things should be good | 03:46 |
| superm1 | i talked to the xubuntu guys | 03:46 |
| superm1 | and by rc they will have some cleanup that will make our lives easier | 03:46 |
| laga | is the mythtv session xfce or still openbox? | 03:46 |
| superm1 | its xfce now via control centre | 03:47 |
| superm1 | or ubiquity | 03:47 |
| laga | ok | 03:47 |
| superm1 | you can go openbox if you use ubuntu-mythtv-frontend | 03:47 |
| superm1 | but nothing is pushed to the archive | 03:47 |
| laga | won't nm-applet ask for a password for wlans? :/ | 03:47 |
| superm1 | i'm going to push it all at once | 03:47 |
| laga | ok | 03:47 |
| superm1 | hmu | 03:47 |
| superm1 | m | 03:47 |
| laga | it's almost time for weekly builds again | 03:47 |
| superm1 | well it asks to unlock the keyring | 03:48 |
| superm1 | that's right | 03:48 |
| superm1 | that's a big annoyance | 03:48 |
| laga | someone ine here told me you can use pam-keyring | 03:48 |
| superm1 | well by rc we can look at adding pam keyring | 03:48 |
| superm1 | yeah | 03:48 |
| laga | but i have no clue what that is | 03:48 |
| superm1 | but you need to set your keyring password identical | 03:48 |
| laga | right | 03:48 |
| superm1 | to your login password | 03:48 |
| superm1 | and i think it doesnt work upon auto login | 03:48 |
| laga | should be able to enforce that in mcc | 03:48 |
| superm1 | lets see what kind of response we get post beta | 03:49 |
| superm1 | and whether that will be necessary | 03:49 |
| laga | unessl i do it, in which case you'll get dancing clowns or something | 03:49 |
| superm1 | you can always save the setting via network-admin too | 03:49 |
| superm1 | rathre than use nm-applet | 03:49 |
| superm1 | since network-admin is part of our install now | 03:49 |
| laga | true. we can still modify wpa-supplicant.conf | 03:49 |
| laga | what does network-admin do? modify config files statically? | 03:49 |
| superm1 | yeah | 03:49 |
| superm1 | it modified /etc/network/interfaces | 03:49 |
| superm1 | and tells nm-applet to take a hike | 03:50 |
| laga | that's great. | 03:50 |
| superm1 | for those interfaces | 03:50 |
| laga | i think that should be sufficient | 03:50 |
| superm1 | yeah hopefully | 03:50 |
| laga | ignoring the fact that it's gnome. ;) | 03:50 |
| superm1 | well the gnome dependencies are stripped from it | 03:50 |
| superm1 | from what the xfce guys told me | 03:50 |
| laga | wee | 03:50 |
| superm1 | they used to have an xfce variant of it | 03:50 |
| superm1 | until they convinced gnome guys to build it differently | 03:51 |
| superm1 | okay i'm going to push this version to the ppa at least | 03:51 |
| superm1 | and do another build of the iso in a few hours | 03:51 |
| superm1 | and take a look and see if maybe for some reason apt decides to not freeze anymore | 03:52 |
| laga | does i+t freeze in ubiquity proper, too? | 03:52 |
| superm1 | well can't test the gtk frontend in our env | 03:52 |
| superm1 | since we are missing language packs | 03:52 |
| superm1 | and it expects those | 03:52 |
| superm1 | and cant test our ubiquity in a normal env | 03:52 |
| superm1 | because we expect mythtv-common | 03:52 |
| superm1 | and a few other things | 03:52 |
| laga | great | 03:53 |
| superm1 | i'm wondering if perhaps installing from the ppa on an alpha4 disk is feasible though | 03:54 |
| === laga imports his XMLTV file for the first time | ||
| superm1 | that would definitely be a good way to test | 03:54 |
| superm1 | and it would rule out unionfs crap | 03:55 |
| superm1 | i still dont believe unionfs is solved | 03:55 |
| superm1 | it may not kernel oops for us | 03:55 |
| laga | unionfs seems to be "teh suck" lately | 03:55 |
| superm1 | but i dont trust it | 03:55 |
| laga | are older kenrles still available? maybe we can build a disk with an old kernel | 03:55 |
| superm1 | unfortuantely not | 03:56 |
| laga | bah | 03:56 |
| superm1 | also older kernels have older versions of lirc modules | 03:56 |
| superm1 | which is bad | 03:56 |
| laga | well, just for testing, so we can yell at the kernel guys | 03:56 |
| superm1 | well the problem though is that the cd repository is broken on disk remember for alpha4 | 03:57 |
| superm1 | so it has to be an app that hasn't changed since a4 that gets installed | 03:57 |
| superm1 | perhaps openchrome | 03:57 |
| superm1 | that'd be feasible | 03:57 |
| laga | you mean openchrome breaks apt? | 03:58 |
| superm1 | well need a deb to install during ubiqiuty | 03:58 |
| superm1 | to test apt | 03:58 |
| superm1 | but needs to be one still valid on mirrors.cs.umn.edu | 03:58 |
| superm1 | since all the others have expired | 03:59 |
| laga | what happens if there is no intarweb available during install? | 04:00 |
| superm1 | the install gets unhappy on a4 | 04:00 |
| superm1 | beta its fixed | 04:00 |
| superm1 | since on cd repo works properly | 04:00 |
| laga | good | 04:00 |
| laga | Grabber did not validate ok. See /tmp/q8JyReIDRx/t_commands.log for a list of the commands that were used | 04:01 |
| superm1 | it did boil down to that one apt config option | 04:01 |
| laga | /tmp/q8JyReIDRx/t_commands.log: No such file or directory | 04:01 |
| superm1 | that's not good | 04:01 |
| laga | XMLTV is bersolid software. | 04:01 |
| superm1 | woah i forgot usplash was so f*d on a4 | 04:02 |
| superm1 | wow | 04:02 |
| laga | i iwhs asus would finally release their EEE | 04:05 |
| superm1 | EEE? | 04:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #139585 in mythbuntu-control-centre (universe) "Desktop roles: should be able to select more than one" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139585 | 04:06 |
| laga | small notebook for $199-$350 | 04:08 |
| laga | http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/12559_large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/334/C12559/&h=300&w=400&sz=33&hl=de&start=2&um=1&tbnid=5kLfj1_mSfgs0M:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dasus%2Beee%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:de:official%26sa%3DN | 04:08 |
| laga | /tmp/1QRwA0T9Ep/t_1_2.xml validates ok | 04:08 |
| laga | yay | 04:08 |
| superm1 | wow 200 bucks | 04:08 |
| superm1 | what kind of cpu in the things? | 04:09 |
| laga | something intel i guess | 04:09 |
| laga | http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3829 | 04:10 |
| laga | Processor: Intel mobile CPU (Intel 910 chipset, 900MHz Dothan Pentium M) | 04:10 |
| laga | more than enough | 04:10 |
| laga | for myth and sdtv :) | 04:10 |
| superm1 | yeah for sure | 04:10 |
| laga | too bad they won't ship it next month like they planned to | 04:11 |
| laga | need one for university | 04:11 |
| superm1 | no you just want to be able to irc in class dont you :S? | 04:12 |
| laga | no, that wouldn't justify the 2Gb RAM and the dual core CPU i'm gonna get ;) | 04:12 |
| superm1 | the only reason i'd want a faster laptop is so that i can run VM's faster | 04:13 |
| laga | yup | 04:13 |
| laga | if my old laptop wasn't falling apart, it#d keep it | 04:13 |
| superm1 | at least one core for a vm and one for normal session | 04:13 |
| laga | nice small asus thing with a pentium m 1.4GHz | 04:13 |
| superm1 | i should just fix my other box already though, so i can use my desktop for vmware server again | 04:13 |
| laga | yes | 04:14 |
| laga | shame on you | 04:14 |
| superm1 | you used vmware server's remote connection stuff? | 04:14 |
| superm1 | its actually pretty nice | 04:14 |
| laga | no | 04:14 |
| laga | but virtualbox can do rdp, too | 04:14 |
| superm1 | but can it forward cdroms and usb over rdp? | 04:15 |
| superm1 | and virtualbox's networking is horrible compared to vmware's | 04:15 |
| superm1 | i mean for most purposes its not a big deal | 04:15 |
| laga | "The Eee PC even comes with its own Anti-Virus software" wtf | 04:15 |
| superm1 | but in general | 04:15 |
| superm1 | haha | 04:15 |
| laga | true, but i managed to get virtualbox working so i won't bother | 04:15 |
| laga | ok, virtualbox breaks often but i tinker a lot | 04:15 |
| Daviey | laga: go to bed! | 04:16 |
| superm1 | okay i was able to upgrade ubiquity in the a4 vm | 04:16 |
| laga | Daviey: bah | 04:16 |
| superm1 | so perhaps we'll know in about 42 percent | 04:16 |
| superm1 | whether unionfs is being mean | 04:16 |
| Daviey | unionfs is fixed, aint it? | 04:16 |
| superm1 | that's what they 'say' | 04:16 |
| superm1 | psh | 04:16 |
| superm1 | i dont buy it | 04:16 |
| laga | so. what's your favourite webcomics? | 04:17 |
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| === laga waits for 42% to happen | ||
| superm1 | webcomics? | 04:18 |
| superm1 | cant say i look at any ever | 04:18 |
| === laga recommends www.xkcd.com | ||
| Daviey | :O just googled and came to that site aswell | 04:19 |
| laga | now we know why you are so darn productive | 04:19 |
| Daviey | eeek | 04:19 |
| laga | also, www.sinfest.net | 04:19 |
| superm1 | oh i've been to xkcd before | 04:19 |
| === laga will keep the sick ones to himself | ||
| superm1 | there are some good things on there | 04:19 |
| laga | yup | 04:20 |
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| Daviey | Everbody loves eric raymond... they are good | 04:21 |
| laga | yes | 04:21 |
| Daviey | http://geekz.co.uk/shop/images/che-stallman-tshirt-show.jpg?1174745457 | 04:21 |
| superm1 | by goly it works on a4 | 04:23 |
| superm1 | so now its time to play the game what has changed that could have broken it since then | 04:24 |
| superm1 | argh | 04:24 |
| laga | superm1: that's probably even less fun than git-bisect on a few thousand changes.. | 04:25 |
| === superm1 curls up in a ball and wishes there was a way to just ship the older kernel | ||
| superm1 | its probably unionfs. | 04:27 |
| superm1 | and now that the beta disks are out for normal ubuntu there is no priority to them rushing to fix things | 04:27 |
| laga | well | 04:28 |
| laga | they just shipped thousands of borked disks.. | 04:28 |
| Daviey | we could switch to Fedora? | 04:28 |
| laga | oh well, it's not like _my_ bugs get fixed | 04:28 |
| === laga burns Daviey | ||
| Daviey | erm, are beta disks shipping? | 04:29 |
| superm1 | yeah they are | 04:29 |
| Daviey | Why?! | 04:29 |
| superm1 | honestly, make a disk and look at dmesg | 04:29 |
| superm1 | its a mess | 04:29 |
| superm1 | i swear unionfs cant be fixed | 04:29 |
| Daviey | surely beta testers are capiable of burning an iso!? | 04:30 |
| Daviey | This makes me sad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icyQDl2eN5g | 04:30 |
| superm1 | okay next experiment. lets upgrade apt and python in an alpha4 disk | 04:30 |
| superm1 | and try | 04:30 |
| laga | Daviey: they are not shipped | 04:31 |
| laga | Daviey: shipped as in "available for download" | 04:31 |
| Daviey | ah | 04:31 |
| superm1 | god can you guys imagine how hard it would have been to start coding ubiquity and this live disk if things were broke at the *start* of the dev cycle? | 04:33 |
| superm1 | it would have been impossible | 04:33 |
| laga | http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/copa-cobandit | 04:33 |
| laga | ^^ the "everybody loves eric s raymond" is nice, indeed | 04:33 |
| Daviey | yeah.. i'm still looking forward to a major merge.. no doubt hungry hippo will change ubiquity radically | 04:33 |
| superm1 | hungry hippo? | 04:34 |
| laga | better than herdly heroine | 04:34 |
| laga | s/herdly/hardly/ | 04:34 |
| Daviey | http://www.thinginabag.com/node/688 | 04:34 |
| laga | ok, it#s 4:30 or something, i need to go to bed | 04:34 |
| superm1 | night | 04:35 |
| Daviey | laga: sleep is for the weak | 04:35 |
| superm1 | this week i agree | 04:35 |
| === Daviey is writing documentation... | ||
| Daviey | 11,257 words so far... i hate writing docs | 04:36 |
| laga | cat dem from /dev/random and use clever perl script | 04:36 |
| laga | g'night | 04:36 |
| Daviey | Has to be written to 3 levels aswell... This is just the low level stuff | 04:36 |
| Daviey | laga: nn | 04:37 |
| Daviey | I'm going aswell | 04:40 |
| Daviey | nn | 04:40 |
| superm1 | nn | 04:40 |
| superm1 | man it works with updated python-apt and apt on the live disk too | 04:43 |
| superm1 | it really is looking like unionfs | 04:43 |
| superm1 | laga, look at bug 144395 and tell me i'm not crazy. i swear this is the exact same time that things fail for us too. | 05:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144395 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "unionfs oopses for http processes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144395 | 05:00 |
| superm1 | well laga: it does sound to be unionfs. i knew i couldn't trust it. http://pastebin.ca/718102 | 05:09 |
| === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242398775.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv | ||
| jumpkick | sigh... mythbackend crashed 4 hours before prime time... | 05:12 |
| jumpkick | makes me sad | 05:12 |
| superm1 | ouch :( | 05:12 |
| superm1 | why'd it crash? | 05:12 |
| jumpkick | EIT scanning I guess | 05:13 |
| jumpkick | that's the last thing in the log | 05:13 |
| jumpkick | [26917.539354] mythbackend[3815] : segfault at 00002aaaaae55000 rip 00002aaf01d23a48 rsp 00000000480108f0 error 4 | 05:14 |
| jumpkick | in dmesg | 05:14 |
| superm1 | ugh yuck. | 05:15 |
| superm1 | did apport catch anything? | 05:15 |
| jumpkick | how do I check? | 05:15 |
| jumpkick | oh I suppose I should install it | 05:16 |
| superm1 | haha well too late then if it wasn't installed | 05:16 |
| jumpkick | seems I already have it | 05:17 |
| jumpkick | but X was not running at the time | 05:17 |
| jumpkick | guess I'll just put in an f-in cron script to keep things running | 05:18 |
| superm1 | well i dont know if apport needs to be cron'ed | 05:19 |
| superm1 | its a service | 05:19 |
| jumpkick | oh no | 05:21 |
| jumpkick | I was thinking more like this | 05:21 |
| jumpkick | if [ -z "$(ps aux | grep `cat /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid` | grep -v grep)" ] ; then rm /var/run/mythtv/mythbackend.pid && /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart; fi | 05:21 |
| superm1 | does your mythbackend crash that often? | 05:22 |
| superm1 | that you need to do that? | 05:22 |
| jumpkick | It ran from 8:30am till 4:00pm | 05:22 |
| superm1 | i'd think some similar service out there already exists to do that | 05:22 |
| superm1 | at least | 05:22 |
| jumpkick | however when I'm not around to restart it | 05:22 |
| superm1 | but i mean a service that automatically restarts processes | 05:22 |
| superm1 | should they go down | 05:22 |
| superm1 | someone told me of one ages ago | 05:23 |
| jumpkick | oh | 05:23 |
| jumpkick | restartd - Process checker and/or restarter? | 05:24 |
| superm1 | the exact name i have no idea | 05:24 |
| superm1 | does it work with init scripts? | 05:24 |
| jumpkick | that's what apt-cache said | 05:24 |
| superm1 | monit | 05:25 |
| superm1 | i think thats it | 05:25 |
| jumpkick | oh | 05:26 |
| jumpkick | that came back in the list too | 05:26 |
| jumpkick | meh | 05:33 |
| jumpkick | monit looks nice and everything | 05:33 |
| jumpkick | but it also looks like it's overkill | 05:33 |
| jumpkick | and I'm not feeling ambitious at the moment, so crontab it is | 05:33 |
| superm1 | haha | 05:34 |
| jumpkick | would probably be a good feature for mythbuntu though... | 05:35 |
| jumpkick | ;) | 05:35 |
| superm1 | well the real feature is supposed to be stability :) | 05:35 |
| jumpkick | that would be good, but might not always be in your control (if the myth guys mess up) | 05:35 |
| superm1 | yeah | 05:36 |
| superm1 | well i'm happy to brag about my backend: | 05:36 |
| superm1 | mythtv@mythdell:~$ uptime | 05:36 |
| superm1 | 22:35:24 up 47 days, 1:53, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.13, 0.17 | 05:36 |
| jumpkick | that's nothing | 05:38 |
| jumpkick | mythbuntu websever's got you beat - 23:37:56 up 94 days, 2:33, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 05:38 |
| superm1 | haha | 05:38 |
| jumpkick | my old webserver is even better | 05:39 |
| jumpkick | root@northern:~# uptime | 05:39 |
| jumpkick | 00:06:11 up 214 days, 18:26, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.82, 0.59 | 05:39 |
| jumpkick | anyway system uptime is not what I worry about | 05:40 |
| jumpkick | it's mythbackend | 05:40 |
| jumpkick | no way yours has been up for 47 days | 05:40 |
| jumpkick | unless you are running stable packages from the last release | 05:40 |
| superm1 | well i restarted it once | 05:40 |
| superm1 | to upgrade to 0.20.2 | 05:41 |
| superm1 | otherwise yeah its been up that whole time | 05:41 |
| jumpkick | wow | 05:41 |
| jumpkick | I'm impressed | 05:41 |
| superm1 | honestly, me too :) | 05:41 |
| superm1 | i'd have expected something to go wrong for ages | 05:41 |
| jumpkick | crontab worked | 05:41 |
| jumpkick | just got an email | 05:41 |
| jumpkick | :D | 05:41 |
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