[01:22] <twointo1> anybody tried the new beta?  I'm downloading it now.
[02:06] <cje> hi, I am chatting with someone on a LUG list, and they are suggesting Xubuntu.  I am wondering if this is a good IRC community or newbies?  Or is this community better for more experienced users?
[02:08] <Jester45> its good for all users
[02:09] <cje> cool
[02:09] <Jester45> if your experienced you can help others if not you can get help and become experienced
[02:09] <cje> cool.
[02:09] <Jester45> it does get quite in here sometimes
[02:09] <cje> Jester45, do you think that Xubuntu is good for newbies?
[02:09] <cje> heh
[02:09] <Jester45> yea
[02:12] <cje> I haven't used any XFCE GUI in about 3 weeks, and that was for an old copy of SUSE 10.0 on top of a 750 mhz box.  Someone on this LUG is interested in starting a newbie on a 450 mhz notebook with like 384 MB of RAM.
[02:12] <cje> We are just trying to figure out if that newbie is going to be frustrated with audio and / or video.
[02:13] <cje> I am going to recommend that he send his newbie friend here to IRC if you folks think that is smart.  I have found that IRC is a good support mechanism, but I wanted to see what you all thought.
[02:18] <nikolam> Hi I installed Seamonkey on Xubuntu 7.04 64bit. It uses /usr/local/seamonkey directory for install. Before, I used to make a link with sudo ln -s /usr/lical/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/bin/seamonkey to make it work system-wide. Now I got message "seamonkey: error while loading shared libraries: libxpcom.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but it CAN star if I go to /usr/local/seamonkey dir and start it with ".seamonkey" How
[02:18] <nikolam>  to make apropriate link to /usr/bin/ to make SM work system-wide?
[02:21] <Jester45> cje: here and the forums are good places
[02:22] <cje> Jester45, Xubuntu or Ubuntu forums?  Or both?
[02:22] <cje> Jester45, linky, please?  Thanks
[02:23] <nikolam> I just make it work by putting the scipt: cd /usr/local/seamonkey/  ./seamonkey and made it executable in the name of usr/bin/seamonkey . Do you think it is safe? :)
[02:29] <Jester45> i would have to guess ubuntu forums
[02:30] <nikolam> www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <TheSheep> Jester45: I even registered there, with my login and pass from launchpad, but found out I have no permissions to post anywhere, so it's kind of useless.
[04:44] <kiosk> \quit
[05:17] <mikubuntu> help! got two issues i need to resolve on an old box that i set up for mom.  most important is wireless networking, as the box doesn't have etho port, but it does have two usb ports... i bought a belkin wireless g usb adapter, but couldn't make connect.  several weeks ago i gave my friend an old box and we put xubuntu on it.  she bought a linksys router and usb adapter and we enabled it in...
[05:17] <mikubuntu> ...two licks, right out of the box... she lent me that adapter today to bring home and see if i could get connected with it, but no luck... can someone help me determine what the prob might be?
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: for a usb wireless adapter, you may be looking at needing ndiswrapper
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | mikubuntu
[05:22] <ubotu> mikubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <mikubuntu> i don't even get the same behavior from xubuntu when i try to config the wireless connection, but i'm pretty sure this box of mom's and the one i gave my friend were both loaded off the same alt install disk...
[05:24] <mikubuntu> tonyyarusso: ya, i have looked at the ddiswrapper page, and i think it's kinda over my head unless i can get someone to walk me thru it... why would the linksys adapter work out of the box on one machine, and then not on another???
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: wait, it works on one?
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> erm, dunno...
[05:26] <mikubuntu> ya, the linksys usb adapter works on subuntu's computer, and auto dchp'd right off the bat, but when i put it on mom's machine today; no dice.... arrrrrrgggggghhhhhh :(
[05:26] <mikubuntu> brb
[05:30] <mikubuntu> tonyyarusso: the machines are not the same, but with the same os image, they should behave the same shouldn't they?
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> mikubuntu: maybe.  I'm not sure.
[05:33] <mikubuntu> how soon will gutsy stable be released? i wonder if there is better connectivity with the new release ...
[05:36] <kiosk> my -> key doesn't work
[05:37] <kiosk> it does something but not move the cursor right
[05:38] <kiosk> anyone know this problem
[05:40] <kiosk> grumpymole: hey, I used your forum ad to fix my TP600 sound
[05:40] <kiosk> grumpymole: thanks
[05:41] <kiosk> but now my -> key is broke
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> does anyone know how to install flash play
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> and jaa
[06:28] <DeadlikeU> java
[06:31] <DeadlikeU> ! flash player
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash player - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <mikubuntu> is it ok to attach a wireless g usb adapter while computer is on, or must it be powered down b4 introducing the (new) adapter?