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schierbeck | GaryvdM: hi | 12:03 |
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GaryvdM | hello | 12:04 |
schierbeck | i just wanted to ask; do you accept somewhat unrelated patches to brokenlines? | 12:04 |
schierbeck | it seems that it'll be merged soon, so i might as well place them there, to avoid any conflicts later on | 12:05 |
schierbeck | (given that phanatic is in on it, of course) | 12:05 |
GaryvdM | Yhea - I think you can make patches against vizchanges, and then send them to the list | 12:06 |
GaryvdM | With a note that it is of vizchanges. | 12:07 |
schierbeck | ok | 12:07 |
GaryvdM | I think that is the best way to go. | 12:07 |
GaryvdM | If you send them to the mailing list - I'll test them. | 12:08 |
schierbeck | ok, thanks | 12:08 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: have i asked you about the title of the viz window? | 12:09 |
GaryvdM | Like https://code.launchpad.net/~dasch/bzr-gtk/viz-cleanup ? | 12:09 |
schierbeck | i'd like to rename it "Revision history" | 12:09 |
GaryvdM | No | 12:09 |
GaryvdM | Am\ | 12:09 |
GaryvdM | I agree that it needs to be changed | 12:10 |
schierbeck | yup | 12:10 |
schierbeck | okay, i'll make a quick patch and send it to the list | 12:10 |
phanatic | if noone raises any objections on the list until tomorrow, i'll merge vizchanges/brokenlines | 12:10 |
schierbeck | sweet | 12:10 |
GaryvdM | Cool! | 12:10 |
GaryvdM | I do like Revision History because it is consistent with previous vcs I have used. | 12:11 |
GaryvdM | But in bzr it is Log | 12:11 |
schierbeck | i know, but i just think that's unintuitive | 12:12 |
GaryvdM | And I feel we should use that to be consistent. | 12:12 |
schierbeck | hmm | 12:12 |
schierbeck | i agree that it would be best | 12:12 |
schierbeck | and using 'revision history' consistently would mean convincing the bzr guys it's for the better... | 12:13 |
schierbeck | screw it, i'll use 'log' | 12:13 |
GaryvdM | Else try get log changed to history in bzr ;-) | 12:13 |
schierbeck | exactly :( | 12:13 |
schierbeck | i don't know why they picked 'log' -- it really makes no sense | 12:14 |
schierbeck | well, some | 12:14 |
GaryvdM | And I think we need to add glog as a alias for viz | 12:14 |
Odd_Bloke | Historical reasons and it is a log of revisions. | 12:14 |
Odd_Bloke | Adding history as an alias for log would work... | 12:15 |
schierbeck | Odd_Bloke: but you're not really reading a log, which in my mind is a secondary piece of information about events | 12:15 |
schierbeck | you're seeing the *history*, the main purpose of the rcs | 12:16 |
schierbeck | okay, i'm going with "revision log" | 12:16 |
Odd_Bloke | schierbeck: Sure, I was just filling in the 'well, some'. :p | 12:16 |
schierbeck | :) | 12:17 |
schierbeck | sorry, i easily get very involved in silly matters | 12:17 |
GaryvdM | schierbeck: are these the changes that you wanted to make against vizchanges: https://code.launchpad.net/~dasch/bzr-gtk/viz-cleanup | 12:18 |
GaryvdM | ? | 12:18 |
Odd_Bloke | I suppose 'log' is also a more obvious/convenient shorthand than 'his' or 'hist'... | 12:18 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: that's another branch | 12:18 |
schierbeck | i was working on a general cleanup of viz, but then i heard of your branch | 12:18 |
schierbeck | that made some of my changes redundant | 12:19 |
phanatic | that's the reason why we set up that mailing list: to avoid redundancy :) | 12:19 |
schierbeck | i really feel there's a lot of code duplication in there; i'd like to have a reference to the currently selected revision stored in the tree model | 12:19 |
schierbeck | phanatic: yeah, but i've been having some trouble with it; didn't receive your mail, either :( | 12:20 |
schierbeck | the branch's pushed to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dasch/bzr-gtk/viz-change-window-title | 12:21 |
phanatic | schierbeck: that sucks :( | 12:21 |
schierbeck | i of course made a typo in the commit msg | 12:21 |
schierbeck | i'll try to send a mail to the list | 12:21 |
phanatic | schierbeck: not even in your spam folder? | 12:21 |
schierbeck | nope | 12:21 |
schierbeck | it freaks me out | 12:21 |
phanatic | weird | 12:21 |
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schierbeck | wow, that's like the third "change title" mail i've sent to the list | 12:24 |
schierbeck | first two were dupes | 12:24 |
schierbeck | okay, it's off | 12:24 |
schierbeck | i hate the list archive | 12:25 |
schierbeck | it displays my message as a reply to another mail | 12:25 |
GaryvdM | phanatic: Do you have access to modify this page: https://launchpad.net/bzr-gtk/ ? | 12:26 |
GaryvdM | If you do, may I suggest adding a link to the mailing list. | 12:26 |
GaryvdM | Hmm - never mind - it seems I have access :-) | 12:29 |
GaryvdM | schierbeck: I received you list mail. | 12:30 |
schierbeck | great :) | 12:30 |
schierbeck | please do tell here if you reply; i'm not sure i'll receive it | 12:30 |
phanatic | GaryvdM: thanks for updating the page (i've been away from my computer for a bit) | 12:34 |
GaryvdM | NP | 12:34 |
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schierbeck | i've played around with vizchanges -- isn't the window getting *very* wide? | 12:37 |
schierbeck | it's caused primarily by the new "Children" label | 12:37 |
Vantage13 | Does bazaar have a way of pulling multiple patches or merging multiple branches at once? | 12:38 |
GaryvdM | Vantage13 - Yes - you can merge multiple branches/patches in one commit | 12:40 |
Vantage13 | for example, if I have multiple features for one release. I'd like to just pull a release rather than have to pull each feature in individually | 12:40 |
Vantage13 | GaryvdM: how would you go about doing that? | 12:40 |
GaryvdM | bzr merge branch1 | 12:41 |
GaryvdM | bzr merge branch2 | 12:41 |
GaryvdM | bzr merge patch | 12:41 |
GaryvdM | bzr commit | 12:41 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: i'm not sure you can merge if you have uncommitted changes... | 12:41 |
Vantage13 | GaryvdM: is patch a command or just the name of the combination of the two? | 12:42 |
schierbeck | test> bzr merge ../viz-status-message/ | 12:42 |
schierbeck | bzr: ERROR: Working tree "/home/daniel/Projects/bzr-gtk/test/" has uncommitted changes | 12:42 |
GaryvdM | No - you can specify a patch to the merge command | 12:42 |
luks | --force | 12:43 |
schierbeck | luks: does --force have any destructive side effects? | 12:44 |
luks | in case of conflicts, you will probably end up in a confusing situation | 12:44 |
luks | but otherwise no, as far as I know | 12:44 |
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egx0r | Having trouble with the initial orginazation. If I have 5 sub-projects working seperately but under one major project, should I then make 1 project and 5 branches or 5 seperate projects, any hints? | 01:01 |
james_w | egx0r: I would personally go for 5 separate projects. | 01:02 |
james_w | (a branch and a project would be the same thing here I think). | 01:02 |
james_w | unless you always need all of the sub-projects, and it is inconceivable that anyone would ever work on just one. | 01:03 |
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egx0r | james_w: Good point. You can see my sub-projects as tasks in a project. Every task should work independently of each other, but they should all be under the same project. I hope this makes sense.. | 01:07 |
schierbeck | phanatic: do you have any remarks on the viz-change-title patch? | 01:07 |
GaryvdM | schierbeck: are you sure that children are making the viz window wider? | 01:08 |
GaryvdM | It seems like it's the tree to me | 01:08 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: it's both, i guess | 01:09 |
phanatic | schierbeck: i like history better i think | 01:09 |
schierbeck | phanatic: me too :D | 01:09 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: i'd like some of the columns to disappear, too | 01:09 |
schierbeck | like the revno -- it should be in the logview | 01:09 |
phanatic | schierbeck, GaryvdM: as we've discussed before, i'd prefer to allow the user to set which columns s/he wants to see | 01:10 |
GaryvdM | logview? | 01:10 |
phanatic | logview is the bottom part, the details :) | 01:10 |
schierbeck | phanatic: but that'll take some time to implement -- i'd really like to keep the viz simple until we can offer such an option to the user | 01:11 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: oh, yeah, the bottom :) | 01:11 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: also, we really should simplify the date format | 01:11 |
schierbeck | displaying both weekday and timezone seems to be overkill... | 01:12 |
GaryvdM | Weekday - Yes, Timezone - maybe | 01:12 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: if we can, why not convert to local time format? | 01:13 |
GaryvdM | Yhea | 01:13 |
schierbeck | i think i better file a bug report, otherwise i'll just forget all this... | 01:13 |
GaryvdM | I think stuff that is in the tree must be helpfull to locate a revision. | 01:14 |
schierbeck | exactly | 01:14 |
schierbeck | there should be nothing more | 01:14 |
GaryvdM | Yhea - Timezone does not help | 01:14 |
GaryvdM | Revision number would be usefull | 01:15 |
GaryvdM | I remember revision numbers | 01:15 |
schierbeck | GaryvdM: i'd rather have a search box, then | 01:17 |
schierbeck | type the revno, and be taken to the right revision immediately | 01:17 |
GaryvdM | That is all ready the case :-) | 01:18 |
GaryvdM | Click on the tree and type a number. | 01:18 |
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schierbeck | GaryvdM: cool! but not very intuitive for a new user... | 01:19 |
schierbeck | i'd rather hide the column and have a search box instead | 01:20 |
GaryvdM | Cool | 01:21 |
GaryvdM | There must allready be some gtk applications that have a column selector. | 01:21 |
GaryvdM | There is on built into the mozilla xul tree. | 01:22 |
GaryvdM | But there does not seem to be one for gtk. | 01:22 |
schierbeck | hmm | 01:23 |
schierbeck | i'm not sure how to do it | 01:23 |
luks | GaryvdM, evolution, but it uses an ugly custom widget | 01:24 |
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schierbeck | GaryvdM: i've fixed the time stamp format: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dasch/bzr-gtk/viz-date-format | 01:39 |
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GaryvdM | schierbeck: cool | 01:53 |
Verterok | moin | 01:56 |
schierbeck | phanatic: merge material? | 01:56 |
phanatic | schierbeck: looks okay | 02:00 |
GaryvdM | schierbeck> | 02:00 |
schierbeck | i left the format as it was in the bottom; should i change it there, too? | 02:01 |
GaryvdM | schierbeck: that code is now in a different file in vizchanges (treemodel.py) | 02:01 |
schierbeck | hmm | 02:01 |
schierbeck | should i make a patch for vizchanges? | 02:02 |
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schierbeck | GaryvdM: i'll mail you the patch | 02:07 |
GaryvdM | cool | 02:07 |
GaryvdM | Thanks | 02:08 |
schierbeck | sent :) | 02:09 |
phanatic | it's a bit late over here, so good night guys :) | 02:16 |
GaryvdM | The formated date will allways be 16 chars - so we can set the width-chars to 16 | 02:17 |
GaryvdM | Night phanatic | 02:17 |
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GaryvdM | Night | 02:36 |
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elijah | Is there a howto on bzr-svn anywhere? The website seems to list features, downloads, caveats, etc., but no instructions on use. | 03:55 |
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radix | elijah: The idea is that you use bzr normally but with svn URLs instead of bzr URLs | 03:58 |
elijah | oh | 03:58 |
radix | elijah: so e.g. "bzr branch svn://..." should work | 03:58 |
radix | For http you might have to prefix with "svn+http://", but that may not be necessary any more, I don't remember. | 03:58 |
elijah | ah, and the works-in-an-svn checkout means I just do 'bzr status' and it'll work the same as 'svn status'...yes? | 03:58 |
radix | well, no :) | 03:59 |
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radix | it'll be a bzr status | 03:59 |
elijah | well, yes | 03:59 |
elijah | but very similar commands with similar status | 03:59 |
elijah | yeah, only slightly different output | 03:59 |
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sm | good evening all | 08:59 |
harrisony | afternoon | 09:00 |
sm | could someone straighten me out on the current naming of bazaar|bzr[-ng] ? I am dreadfully confused | 09:01 |
sm | are there still two projects ? | 09:01 |
sm | next question: I just committed and see my email address in the log in bad.. can I uncommit and do it again ? | 09:03 |
sm | and how do I influence the email address bazaar picks ? | 09:03 |
sm | fourthly, if we get that far, how would I typically push what I've committed to the upstream developer ? | 09:04 |
sm | (or have I done that already ? not sure) | 09:05 |
sm | I see the answer to configuring email address, in the (excellent) man page | 09:15 |
sm | excellent.. uncommit, just like darcs unrecord | 09:17 |
Peng | sm: The old, abandoned project (baz) is just called "baz" now. The new project is called Bazaar (bzr). | 09:46 |
Peng | sm: The old project used to be called "Bazaar" and the new project used to be called "Bazaar-NG". | 09:47 |
Peng | Hmm, "baz" is easier to type than "bzr". | 09:47 |
Peng | Of course, "hg" beats them both at that. :P | 09:47 |
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Peng | What about Dvorak? | 09:48 |
fullermd | Their problem, not mine :p | 09:48 |
Peng | aoeu, I guess. | 09:49 |
sm | thanks | 09:49 |
Peng | You could make a symlink. | 09:49 |
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james_w | sm: yes you can uncommit | 10:59 |
fullermd | Except that if you're thinking darcs-ish, uncommitting something other than the latest rev is probably not going to do what you expect. | 11:00 |
james_w | sm: you can either push if you have write access to their public branch. | 11:00 |
james_w | otherwise use 'bzr send --mail-to their@address' | 11:00 |
james_w | (assuming you have a fairly recent bzr' | 11:00 |
sm | excellent.. I'll try | 11:00 |
sm | not new enough I think.. bzr 0.15 in ubuntu feisty | 11:02 |
fullermd | Well, that should have the old 'bundle' at least. You can attach that to an email manually (me, I do it manual all around anyway) | 11:03 |
sm | fullermd: thanks, that worked | 11:12 |
sm | changes made, committed and sent.. mission accomplished | 11:12 |
fullermd | Now, on to world domination. | 11:12 |
sm | muhahaHAHA | 11:13 |
sm | the world should switch to darcs/bazaar/mercurial methinks | 11:13 |
fullermd | Well, when I'm elected Emperor... | 11:14 |
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schierbeck | hi y'all | 03:40 |
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pbor | does bzr have an online interface? | 05:56 |
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Peng | pbor: A web interface? There's Loggerhead (which is pretty heavy-weight, based on TurboGears) and there's also bzr-webserve (dunno how maintained it is). | 06:48 |
Peng | pbor: Loggerhead powers http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/files . | 06:50 |
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ubotu | New bug: #147266 in bzr "Crash when getting log of remote branch using bzr+ssh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147266 | 07:02 |
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schierbeck | hi guys | 09:58 |
matkor | hi ! | 10:00 |
thumper | morning | 10:05 |
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schierbeck | phanatic: ping | 10:25 |
phanatic | schierbeck: pong | 10:26 |
schierbeck | :) | 10:26 |
schierbeck | phanatic: any updates on the state of vizchanges? | 10:27 |
phanatic | schierbeck: i'll merge it tonight into trunk, so it gives green light to further changes :) | 10:28 |
schierbeck | great! | 10:28 |
schierbeck | it'll be much easier to make changes once it's merged | 10:29 |
phanatic | yep, i hope so :) | 10:31 |
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