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mhbguess whos here! :o)01:47
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nixternalwho?01:49
nixternal:p01:49
mhbit is too early for santa claus01:54
mhbnixternal: hi, what happened while I was gone (one week, not that you noticed)01:54
nixternalI was somewhat gone as well for a funeral...my connection got fixed, we released the beta, and that is about all I can think of really01:55
mhbnixternal: awww. Vacations are way better than funerals.01:57
nixternalheh, tell me about it01:57
mhbnixternal: what are we doing at the moment? Any critical tasks to be done?02:01
mhbnixternal: or are we all slacking as usual and getting fresh ideas for the UDS?02:01
mhbnixternal: heh, bothering you too much, am I? Enjoy the rest of the day and sorry for that :o)02:09
nixternalslacking as usual02:10
nixternalhehe, you aren't bothering me, I am going back and forth between my steaks on the grill02:10
mhbnixternal: bon appetit then02:28
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DaSkreech!hobbsee05:21
ubotuI phear the stick so shhhhh05:21
DaSkreechOh sorry ubotu05:22
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Jucatoanyone noticed a commnds file (ps?) in $HOME?11:47
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waylandbillJucato: not in my home.01:56
Jucatowaylandbill: ok that was weird. coz I had the same file in both laptop and desktop. and the laptop after I upgraded to gutsy02:15
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marseillai_hi03:14
marseillai_i'm cleaning my package for itest : http://itest.sourceforge.net/index.shtml and i don't know in wich section should i set it ?03:14
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Jucatogood morning Hobbsee :)05:01
Hobbseeheya!05:01
Jucatohow was your sunday?05:02
nixternalyay power outtage05:02
Jucatooooh hello nixternal05:02
nixternalhowdy05:02
nixternalheh05:02
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nixternalhowdy :)05:03
Jucatook, I officially hate whoever either put W to close to Q or made Ctrl+W the default for Close window/tab05:04
Jucato"too close"05:04
nixternalheh05:04
nixternalkonvi or irssi?05:05
nixternalin irssi, I just do /wc05:05
Jucatokonvi. CtrL+W doesn't work on irssi :)05:05
Tm_TDaSkreech: howdy you misleaded blind child05:07
HobbseeJucato: yeah, i've been bitten by that before too05:08
HobbseeJucato: it's been OK05:08
nixternalummm, anyone else notice the + mouse cursor when you login?05:16
Hobbseeyeah, i did.05:17
Hobbseeno idea what that is05:17
nixternalOK, I thought I was going crazy for a minute05:17
Jucatohehe yeah05:20
JucatoI also hand a "commands" file in my $HOME05:20
Jucatowhich opened up in kghostview w/ a screenshot of my desktop05:21
Tm_Twhere's DaSkreech when you need him05:21
Hobbseecommands is from imagemagik05:21
JucatoHobbsee: hm.. what's it doing there?05:25
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fritschHobbsee: I found a bug in kblueplugd script, it is very obiously wrong, should i file a separate bug?05:34
fritschHobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2075b735 import and x in totally wrong place05:38
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Hobbseefritsch: separate bug from what?05:43
fritschHobbsee: please have a look at the pastebin05:43
HobbseeJucato: no idea...but we need to look at upgrading that - pronto.05:43
Hobbseefritsch: i did.05:43
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fritschHobbsee: you see the import and the x? before #!/usr/bin/python05:43
Hobbsee....oh wow.05:44
Hobbseeth'ats impressive.05:44
fritschHobbsee: just running kblueplugd on your system should terminate by this error05:44
Hobbseefritsch: yeah, id' wondered why it was dying05:46
fritschHobbsee: kdebluetooth is heavily broken in 7.10 anyway, but svn version without debian patches is working correct, but this issue is already filed, but only marked as NEW till now05:46
Hobbseefritsch: ah yes, it's https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/14614505:47
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fritschHobbsee: yes, this one - i pasted the kblueplugd issue in comment 3, but did not really know, if this was seen05:48
Hobbseefritsch: mind fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/78155 as well?05:49
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fritschHobbsee: you were the last uploader, so i thought going directly to you, with this python thing, would be better ;-)05:50
Hobbseetrue05:50
fritschHobbsee: I can try compiling the kubuntu packages without the patches in debian and see if this is working for receving files and so on ...05:51
fritschHobbsee: then we would know, OUR patches make sth. wrong05:51
Hobbseefritsch: yeah, our package looks to be in a bad way05:52
Hobbseeright, yuck05:54
HobbseeTonio_: ping me when you're around please, @ kdebluetooth05:54
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Hobbseefritsch: i'm more inclined to take the debian package, and merge from it - and shove our changes back there.05:54
fritschHobbsee: i looked at the patches, i think the 08 patch could be wrong, i have a try05:55
Hobbseeif it's in the kde_extras, then...05:55
Hobbseewhichc is 08?  i dont have the source here05:55
fritschHobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7cba86e505:57
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fritschHobbsee: it is just trial and error, but perhaps it helps - one patch should be wrong ;-)05:57
Hobbseefritsch: indeed.05:57
Hobbseefritsch: where are you, btw?05:57
fritschHobbsee: i just compile the package without this one - so i just start05:58
fritschHobbsee: there is also a patches.old directory - i moved it out of the way, but this looks very beta05:58
Hobbseefritsch: unsure if there's any point, if we're just going to take debians, then add any of our non-crackful bits.05:58
Hobbseeyeah.05:58
Hobbseefritsch: can you email me and remind me to look at this stuff tomorrow?06:00
fritschHobbsee: yes, i do06:00
Hobbseecool, thanks06:02
Hobbseehopefully i'll have time tomorrow06:02
fritschHobbsee: build the package without all the ubuntu changes, but it is still not working, i think we should merge again from upstream or take the debian package06:09
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fritschHobbsee: debian unstable package is working on 7.10 - i write everything in a mail tomorrow06:15
Hobbseecool, ok06:15
Hobbseewe'll want to take beta 8, though06:15
fritschHobbsee: svn is working, too06:16
fritschHobbsee: but not our version of it06:16
DaSkreechTm_T: ping06:20
Tm_TDaSkreech: hah, you're funny06:20
Tm_TDaSkreech: you thought I'm paid developer?06:21
Jucatolol06:23
DaSkreechTm_T: :-)06:25
DaSkreechHey more paid developers is better for everyone :)06:27
Tm_Tsure06:28
Tm_Tbut I06:28
Jucatowish06:28
Jucato <Tm_T> but I wish06:29
Jucatoright?06:29
Tm_Tnope06:30
Tm_Tmore like "me? you gotta be kidding mate"06:30
Jucatohehe ok :)06:31
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DaSkreechTm_T: Why would i be kidding?07:14
Tm_Twell, I dont feel I would deserve it07:15
DaSkreechYou got no skills? :)07:15
Tm_Tmore like, I get nothing done currently07:16
Tm_Tskills is another story =)07:16
DaSkreechHa ha :)07:24
Tm_Tall I do is talk talk talk07:25
Tm_Tsome days not even that =)07:25
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DaSkreechhow do LTSdot releases work?07:35
larsiviIt seems like the Fn key on my laptop stopped working a week or two ago, I guess after an update (running gutsy)07:37
mhbLTSdot? You mean like 6.06.1? those are updated live CDs with security fixes07:37
larsivianyone else seen that, or heard of it?07:37
DaSkreechmhb: Right when do they get released07:40
DaSkreechis that on a aschedule?07:40
mhbI do not think so07:40
DaSkreechhmm ok07:41
mhbalthough they plan something else for this LTS07:41
mhbI have heard gossip about doing a regular release, then having an extended "bug fix" period, then release the LTS ... perhaps just gossip, I dunno07:42
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ugaguys, in the last kde update, something is running "import commands" as a system call, at the end of hte startup process of kde08:31
ugait seems to be a python importing method, but runs as a system call instead08:32
ugaso it grabs a postrcript screenshot file called "commands"08:32
ugaanyone knows what's up?08:32
ugaright now I'm grepping the whole disk for this...08:33
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ugaits' easy to notice, since once you enter the desktop, the cursor turns into a "take screenshot" cursor08:33
ugaa strange cross08:33
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nixternaluga: it is known, and I believe fritsch created a patch for it08:34
ugaah, thanks08:34
ugado you know the whereabouts so that I can fix it here temporarily?08:35
nixternalthat explains the goofy + mouse icon when you log in...there was an import in a python script for kdebluetooth was listed before the #! /usr/bin/python08:35
nixternalimport is an imagemagick screen capture command08:35
nixternal/usr/bin/kblueplugd is the file with the issue08:36
uganixternal: thanks, kdebluetooth. Yes I figured out it was the import command running, but not what was running it08:38
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hungerWhen will bluetooth work again in kubuntu gutsy?08:48
hunger /usr/bin/kblueplugd is borked but even fixing that does not allow me to use bluetooth here.08:48
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mhbhunger: ask allee about that08:59
hungerallee: ping?09:00
hungermhb: bluetooth has so many open bugs:-(09:00
mhbhunger: not my fault, I am afraid09:08
hungermhb: I am not blaming you:-)09:08
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DaSkreechI just defeated you  hahahaha09:09
hungerDaSkreech: Hi there!09:09
DaSkreechSeriously though09:09
DaSkreechWould decibel be useful in kate?09:09
hungerDaSkreech: If they want to communicate via kate, then yes.09:10
hungerDaSkreech: No idea why somebody would want that (maybe collaborative editing?) though:-)09:11
DaSkreechSo kate could be gobby like with a decibel implementation?09:11
DaSkreechBingo09:11
DaSkreechOh another thing09:11
hungerDaSkreech: telepathy has tubes to tunnel dbus through IM. Might work with decibel (untested though).09:11
DaSkreech does telepathy support short term short distance communication ?09:12
hungerDaSkreech: telepathy is basically a interface for IM protocols. It can support everything under the sun.09:12
DaSkreechRight09:12
DaSkreechBut I'm asking if it can do discovery09:12
hungerDaSkreech: IIRC there is some bonjour based communication thingy for the OLPC.09:12
DaSkreechright09:13
hungerDaSkreech: that is a telepathy thing, too.09:13
DaSkreechthat's telepathy based?09:13
DaSkreechOk09:13
DaSkreechgrr09:13
DaSkreechquit answering things before I ask them :-P09:13
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hungerWhere can I get the kde settings as set up during install? /etc/skel does not have .kde.09:14
DaSkreechso if kate could pipe the online/offline state of known contacts into a framework that allowed one-two click sharing of documents09:15
DaSkreechit's also feasible that it could do discovery of new people connected to a LAN and share documents with them as well?09:15
hungerDaSkreech: In principle that is possible. In practice that will need some work on decibel:-)09:16
DaSkreechWell the framework for kate doesn't even exost yet so...09:16
DaSkreechexist09:16
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hungerSorry, lost connection.09:18
DaSkreechI was just saying the framework for kate doesnt exist09:19
DaSkreechso no stress yet09:19
=== hunger wishes for a search bar in kmenuedit.
DaSkreechThere isn't?09:20
hungerNope.09:20
DaSkreechI just assume that if it's a kapp it has search09:21
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hungerAh, just takes a while for it to be registered by kmenuedit:-)09:24
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bddebianHeya10:14
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DaSkreechyo10:54
_StefanS_hey10:55
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