[01:47] <mhb> guess whos here! :o)
[01:49] <nixternal> who?
[01:49] <nixternal> :p
[01:54] <mhb> it is too early for santa claus
[01:54] <mhb> nixternal: hi, what happened while I was gone (one week, not that you noticed)
[01:55] <nixternal> I was somewhat gone as well for a funeral...my connection got fixed, we released the beta, and that is about all I can think of really
[01:57] <mhb> nixternal: awww. Vacations are way better than funerals.
[01:57] <nixternal> heh, tell me about it
[02:01] <mhb> nixternal: what are we doing at the moment? Any critical tasks to be done?
[02:01] <mhb> nixternal: or are we all slacking as usual and getting fresh ideas for the UDS?
[02:09] <mhb> nixternal: heh, bothering you too much, am I? Enjoy the rest of the day and sorry for that :o)
[02:10] <nixternal> slacking as usual
[02:10] <nixternal> hehe, you aren't bothering me, I am going back and forth between my steaks on the grill
[02:28] <mhb> nixternal: bon appetit then
[05:21] <DaSkreech> !hobbsee
[05:21] <ubotu> I phear the stick so shhhhh
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Oh sorry ubotu
[11:47] <Jucato> anyone noticed a commnds file (ps?) in $HOME?
[01:56] <waylandbill> Jucato: not in my home.
[02:15] <Jucato> waylandbill: ok that was weird. coz I had the same file in both laptop and desktop. and the laptop after I upgraded to gutsy
[03:14] <marseillai_> hi
[03:14] <marseillai_> i'm cleaning my package for itest : http://itest.sourceforge.net/index.shtml and i don't know in wich section should i set it ?
[05:01] <Jucato> good morning Hobbsee :)
[05:01] <Hobbsee> heya!
[05:02] <Jucato> how was your sunday?
[05:02] <nixternal> yay power outtage
[05:02] <Jucato> oooh hello nixternal
[05:02] <nixternal> howdy
[05:02] <nixternal> heh
[05:03] <nixternal> howdy :)
[05:04] <Jucato> ok, I officially hate whoever either put W to close to Q or made Ctrl+W the default for Close window/tab
[05:04] <Jucato> "too close"
[05:04] <nixternal> heh
[05:05] <nixternal> konvi or irssi?
[05:05] <nixternal> in irssi, I just do /wc
[05:05] <Jucato> konvi. CtrL+W doesn't work on irssi :)
[05:07] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: howdy you misleaded blind child
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, i've been bitten by that before too
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it's been OK
[05:16] <nixternal> ummm, anyone else notice the + mouse cursor when you login?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> yeah, i did.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> no idea what that is
[05:17] <nixternal> OK, I thought I was going crazy for a minute
[05:20] <Jucato> hehe yeah
[05:20] <Jucato> I also hand a "commands" file in my $HOME
[05:21] <Jucato> which opened up in kghostview w/ a screenshot of my desktop
[05:21] <Tm_T> where's DaSkreech when you need him
[05:21] <Hobbsee> commands is from imagemagik
[05:25] <Jucato> Hobbsee: hm.. what's it doing there?
[05:34] <fritsch> Hobbsee: I found a bug in kblueplugd script, it is very obiously wrong, should i file a separate bug?
[05:38] <fritsch> Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2075b735 import and x in totally wrong place
[05:43] <Hobbsee> fritsch: separate bug from what?
[05:43] <fritsch> Hobbsee: please have a look at the pastebin
[05:43] <Hobbsee> Jucato: no idea...but we need to look at upgrading that - pronto.
[05:43] <Hobbsee> fritsch: i did.
[05:43] <fritsch> Hobbsee: you see the import and the x? before #!/usr/bin/python
[05:44] <Hobbsee> ....oh wow.
[05:44] <Hobbsee> th'ats impressive.
[05:44] <fritsch> Hobbsee: just running kblueplugd on your system should terminate by this error
[05:46] <Hobbsee> fritsch: yeah, id' wondered why it was dying
[05:46] <fritsch> Hobbsee: kdebluetooth is heavily broken in 7.10 anyway, but svn version without debian patches is working correct, but this issue is already filed, but only marked as NEW till now
[05:47] <Hobbsee> fritsch: ah yes, it's https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/146145
[05:48] <fritsch> Hobbsee: yes, this one - i pasted the kblueplugd issue in comment 3, but did not really know, if this was seen
[05:49] <Hobbsee> fritsch: mind fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/78155 as well?
[05:50] <fritsch> Hobbsee: you were the last uploader, so i thought going directly to you, with this python thing, would be better ;-)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> true
[05:51] <fritsch> Hobbsee: I can try compiling the kubuntu packages without the patches in debian and see if this is working for receving files and so on ...
[05:51] <fritsch> Hobbsee: then we would know, OUR patches make sth. wrong
[05:52] <Hobbsee> fritsch: yeah, our package looks to be in a bad way
[05:54] <Hobbsee> right, yuck
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: ping me when you're around please, @ kdebluetooth
[05:54] <Hobbsee> fritsch: i'm more inclined to take the debian package, and merge from it - and shove our changes back there.
[05:55] <fritsch> Hobbsee: i looked at the patches, i think the 08 patch could be wrong, i have a try
[05:55] <Hobbsee> if it's in the kde_extras, then...
[05:55] <Hobbsee> whichc is 08?  i dont have the source here
[05:57] <fritsch> Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7cba86e5
[05:57] <fritsch> Hobbsee: it is just trial and error, but perhaps it helps - one patch should be wrong ;-)
[05:57] <Hobbsee> fritsch: indeed.
[05:57] <Hobbsee> fritsch: where are you, btw?
[05:58] <fritsch> Hobbsee: i just compile the package without this one - so i just start
[05:58] <fritsch> Hobbsee: there is also a patches.old directory - i moved it out of the way, but this looks very beta
[05:58] <Hobbsee> fritsch: unsure if there's any point, if we're just going to take debians, then add any of our non-crackful bits.
[05:58] <Hobbsee> yeah.
[06:00] <Hobbsee> fritsch: can you email me and remind me to look at this stuff tomorrow?
[06:00] <fritsch> Hobbsee: yes, i do
[06:02] <Hobbsee> cool, thanks
[06:02] <Hobbsee> hopefully i'll have time tomorrow
[06:09] <fritsch> Hobbsee: build the package without all the ubuntu changes, but it is still not working, i think we should merge again from upstream or take the debian package
[06:15] <fritsch> Hobbsee: debian unstable package is working on 7.10 - i write everything in a mail tomorrow
[06:15] <Hobbsee> cool, ok
[06:15] <Hobbsee> we'll want to take beta 8, though
[06:16] <fritsch> Hobbsee: svn is working, too
[06:16] <fritsch> Hobbsee: but not our version of it
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: ping
[06:20] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: hah, you're funny
[06:21] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: you thought I'm paid developer?
[06:23] <Jucato> lol
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: :-)
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Hey more paid developers is better for everyone :)
[06:28] <Tm_T> sure
[06:28] <Tm_T> but I
[06:28] <Jucato> wish
[06:29] <Jucato>  <Tm_T> but I wish
[06:29] <Jucato> right?
[06:30] <Tm_T> nope
[06:30] <Tm_T> more like "me? you gotta be kidding mate"
[06:31] <Jucato> hehe ok :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Why would i be kidding?
[07:15] <Tm_T> well, I dont feel I would deserve it
[07:15] <DaSkreech> You got no skills? :)
[07:16] <Tm_T> more like, I get nothing done currently
[07:16] <Tm_T> skills is another story =)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[07:25] <Tm_T> all I do is talk talk talk
[07:25] <Tm_T> some days not even that =)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> how do LTSdot releases work?
[07:37] <larsivi> It seems like the Fn key on my laptop stopped working a week or two ago, I guess after an update (running gutsy)
[07:37] <mhb> LTSdot? You mean like 6.06.1? those are updated live CDs with security fixes
[07:37] <larsivi> anyone else seen that, or heard of it?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> mhb: Right when do they get released
[07:40] <DaSkreech> is that on a aschedule?
[07:40] <mhb> I do not think so
[07:41] <DaSkreech> hmm ok
[07:41] <mhb> although they plan something else for this LTS
[07:42] <mhb> I have heard gossip about doing a regular release, then having an extended "bug fix" period, then release the LTS ... perhaps just gossip, I dunno
[08:31] <uga> guys, in the last kde update, something is running "import commands" as a system call, at the end of hte startup process of kde
[08:32] <uga> it seems to be a python importing method, but runs as a system call instead
[08:32] <uga> so it grabs a postrcript screenshot file called "commands"
[08:32] <uga> anyone knows what's up?
[08:33] <uga> right now I'm grepping the whole disk for this...
[08:33] <uga> its' easy to notice, since once you enter the desktop, the cursor turns into a "take screenshot" cursor
[08:33] <uga> a strange cross
[08:34] <nixternal> uga: it is known, and I believe fritsch created a patch for it
[08:34] <uga> ah, thanks
[08:35] <uga> do you know the whereabouts so that I can fix it here temporarily?
[08:35] <nixternal> that explains the goofy + mouse icon when you log in...there was an import in a python script for kdebluetooth was listed before the #! /usr/bin/python
[08:35] <nixternal> import is an imagemagick screen capture command
[08:36] <nixternal> /usr/bin/kblueplugd is the file with the issue
[08:38] <uga> nixternal: thanks, kdebluetooth. Yes I figured out it was the import command running, but not what was running it
[08:48] <hunger> When will bluetooth work again in kubuntu gutsy?
[08:48] <hunger>  /usr/bin/kblueplugd is borked but even fixing that does not allow me to use bluetooth here.
[08:59] <mhb> hunger: ask allee about that
[09:00] <hunger> allee: ping?
[09:00] <hunger> mhb: bluetooth has so many open bugs:-(
[09:08] <mhb> hunger: not my fault, I am afraid
[09:08] <hunger> mhb: I am not blaming you:-)
[09:09] <DaSkreech> I just defeated you  hahahaha
[09:09] <hunger> DaSkreech: Hi there!
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Seriously though
[09:09] <DaSkreech> Would decibel be useful in kate?
[09:10] <hunger> DaSkreech: If they want to communicate via kate, then yes.
[09:11] <hunger> DaSkreech: No idea why somebody would want that (maybe collaborative editing?) though:-)
[09:11] <DaSkreech> So kate could be gobby like with a decibel implementation?
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Bingo
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Oh another thing
[09:11] <hunger> DaSkreech: telepathy has tubes to tunnel dbus through IM. Might work with decibel (untested though).
[09:12] <DaSkreech>  does telepathy support short term short distance communication ?
[09:12] <hunger> DaSkreech: telepathy is basically a interface for IM protocols. It can support everything under the sun.
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Right
[09:12] <DaSkreech> But I'm asking if it can do discovery
[09:12] <hunger> DaSkreech: IIRC there is some bonjour based communication thingy for the OLPC.
[09:13] <DaSkreech> right
[09:13] <hunger> DaSkreech: that is a telepathy thing, too.
[09:13] <DaSkreech> that's telepathy based?
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Ok
[09:13] <DaSkreech> grr
[09:13] <DaSkreech> quit answering things before I ask them :-P
[09:14] <hunger> Where can I get the kde settings as set up during install? /etc/skel does not have .kde.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> so if kate could pipe the online/offline state of known contacts into a framework that allowed one-two click sharing of documents
[09:15] <DaSkreech> it's also feasible that it could do discovery of new people connected to a LAN and share documents with them as well?
[09:16] <hunger> DaSkreech: In principle that is possible. In practice that will need some work on decibel:-)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Well the framework for kate doesn't even exost yet so...
[09:16] <DaSkreech> exist
[09:18] <hunger> Sorry, lost connection.
[09:19] <DaSkreech> I was just saying the framework for kate doesnt exist
[09:19] <DaSkreech> so no stress yet
[09:20] <DaSkreech> There isn't?
[09:20] <hunger> Nope.
[09:21] <DaSkreech> I just assume that if it's a kapp it has search
[09:24] <hunger> Ah, just takes a while for it to be registered by kmenuedit:-)
[10:14] <bddebian> Heya
[10:54] <DaSkreech> yo
[10:55] <_StefanS_> hey