=== FrankH [n=frank@71-85-110-147.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === FrankH [n=frank@71-85-110-147.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === fabo [i=fabo@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === acomaco [n=aco@c-64dc70d5.012-14-67626710.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] guess whos here! :o) === DJlogger is now known as apachelogger [01:49] who? [01:49] :p [01:54] it is too early for santa claus [01:54] nixternal: hi, what happened while I was gone (one week, not that you noticed) [01:55] I was somewhat gone as well for a funeral...my connection got fixed, we released the beta, and that is about all I can think of really [01:57] nixternal: awww. Vacations are way better than funerals. [01:57] heh, tell me about it [02:01] nixternal: what are we doing at the moment? Any critical tasks to be done? [02:01] nixternal: or are we all slacking as usual and getting fresh ideas for the UDS? [02:09] nixternal: heh, bothering you too much, am I? Enjoy the rest of the day and sorry for that :o) [02:10] slacking as usual [02:10] hehe, you aren't bothering me, I am going back and forth between my steaks on the grill [02:28] nixternal: bon appetit then === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-135.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.252.28.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N792P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Zanav [i=top@gateway/tor/x-eb3af62f49c29da1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.241.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a519:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.241.211] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:21] !hobbsee [05:21] I phear the stick so shhhhh [05:22] Oh sorry ubotu === DaSkreech kowers === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.252.28.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Zanav26 [i=top@gateway/tor/x-066325cd5311d6b3] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Karajan [n=Sea@60.20.51.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.73.140] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.107.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.221.131] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mluser-home [n=mluser-h@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger__ [n=me@N866P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mrtimdog [n=mrtimdog@host81-149-70-133.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] anyone noticed a commnds file (ps?) in $HOME? === mrtimdog [n=mrtimdog@host81-149-70-133.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-51-3.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@bchm-4d091bfe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:56] Jucato: not in my home. [02:15] waylandbill: ok that was weird. coz I had the same file in both laptop and desktop. and the laptop after I upgraded to gutsy === emonkey [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fritsch [i=OFEalY7H@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-148-30.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:cb36:1ce9:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] hi [03:14] i'm cleaning my package for itest : http://itest.sourceforge.net/index.shtml and i don't know in wich section should i set it ? === Czessi-m [n=Czessi-m@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vonhalenbach [n=stefan@dslb-084-058-168-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi-m [n=Czessi-m@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180069051.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === milian [n=milian@p57BB3736.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@chello084112133091.25.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] good morning Hobbsee :) [05:01] heya! [05:02] how was your sunday? [05:02] yay power outtage [05:02] oooh hello nixternal [05:02] howdy [05:02] heh === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:03] howdy :) [05:04] ok, I officially hate whoever either put W to close to Q or made Ctrl+W the default for Close window/tab [05:04] "too close" [05:04] heh [05:05] konvi or irssi? [05:05] in irssi, I just do /wc [05:05] konvi. CtrL+W doesn't work on irssi :) [05:07] DaSkreech: howdy you misleaded blind child [05:08] Jucato: yeah, i've been bitten by that before too [05:08] Jucato: it's been OK [05:16] ummm, anyone else notice the + mouse cursor when you login? [05:17] yeah, i did. [05:17] no idea what that is [05:17] OK, I thought I was going crazy for a minute [05:20] hehe yeah [05:20] I also hand a "commands" file in my $HOME [05:21] which opened up in kghostview w/ a screenshot of my desktop [05:21] where's DaSkreech when you need him [05:21] commands is from imagemagik [05:25] Hobbsee: hm.. what's it doing there? === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@81.202.65.108.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] Hobbsee: I found a bug in kblueplugd script, it is very obiously wrong, should i file a separate bug? [05:38] Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2075b735 import and x in totally wrong place === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.66.3] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@66.251.26.172] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] fritsch: separate bug from what? [05:43] Hobbsee: please have a look at the pastebin [05:43] Jucato: no idea...but we need to look at upgrading that - pronto. [05:43] fritsch: i did. === Pitabred [n=pita@c-67-190-48-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] Hobbsee: you see the import and the x? before #!/usr/bin/python [05:44] ....oh wow. [05:44] th'ats impressive. [05:44] Hobbsee: just running kblueplugd on your system should terminate by this error [05:46] fritsch: yeah, id' wondered why it was dying [05:46] Hobbsee: kdebluetooth is heavily broken in 7.10 anyway, but svn version without debian patches is working correct, but this issue is already filed, but only marked as NEW till now [05:47] fritsch: ah yes, it's https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/146145 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.66.3] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:48] Hobbsee: yes, this one - i pasted the kblueplugd issue in comment 3, but did not really know, if this was seen [05:49] fritsch: mind fixing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/78155 as well? === Hobbsee isnt subscribed to kdebluetooth bugs, and the guy who is hasnt had time, i suspect [05:50] Hobbsee: you were the last uploader, so i thought going directly to you, with this python thing, would be better ;-) [05:50] true [05:51] Hobbsee: I can try compiling the kubuntu packages without the patches in debian and see if this is working for receving files and so on ... [05:51] Hobbsee: then we would know, OUR patches make sth. wrong [05:52] fritsch: yeah, our package looks to be in a bad way [05:54] right, yuck [05:54] Tonio_: ping me when you're around please, @ kdebluetooth === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.221.131] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] fritsch: i'm more inclined to take the debian package, and merge from it - and shove our changes back there. [05:55] Hobbsee: i looked at the patches, i think the 08 patch could be wrong, i have a try [05:55] if it's in the kde_extras, then... [05:55] whichc is 08? i dont have the source here [05:57] Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7cba86e5 === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:57] Hobbsee: it is just trial and error, but perhaps it helps - one patch should be wrong ;-) [05:57] fritsch: indeed. [05:57] fritsch: where are you, btw? [05:58] Hobbsee: i just compile the package without this one - so i just start [05:58] Hobbsee: there is also a patches.old directory - i moved it out of the way, but this looks very beta [05:58] fritsch: unsure if there's any point, if we're just going to take debians, then add any of our non-crackful bits. [05:58] yeah. [06:00] fritsch: can you email me and remind me to look at this stuff tomorrow? [06:00] Hobbsee: yes, i do [06:02] cool, thanks [06:02] hopefully i'll have time tomorrow [06:09] Hobbsee: build the package without all the ubuntu changes, but it is still not working, i think we should merge again from upstream or take the debian package === mbiebl [n=michael@e180069051.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee nods [06:15] Hobbsee: debian unstable package is working on 7.10 - i write everything in a mail tomorrow [06:15] cool, ok [06:15] we'll want to take beta 8, though [06:16] Hobbsee: svn is working, too [06:16] Hobbsee: but not our version of it [06:20] Tm_T: ping [06:20] DaSkreech: hah, you're funny [06:21] DaSkreech: you thought I'm paid developer? [06:23] lol [06:25] Tm_T: :-) [06:27] Hey more paid developers is better for everyone :) [06:28] sure [06:28] but I [06:28] wish [06:29] but I wish [06:29] right? [06:30] nope [06:30] more like "me? you gotta be kidding mate" [06:31] hehe ok :) === maini10 [n=marco@host36-49-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [i=sebas@leviathan.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] Tm_T: Why would i be kidding? [07:15] well, I dont feel I would deserve it [07:15] You got no skills? :) [07:16] more like, I get nothing done currently [07:16] skills is another story =) [07:24] Ha ha :) [07:25] all I do is talk talk talk [07:25] some days not even that =) === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === larsivi [n=larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] how do LTSdot releases work? [07:37] It seems like the Fn key on my laptop stopped working a week or two ago, I guess after an update (running gutsy) [07:37] LTSdot? You mean like 6.06.1? those are updated live CDs with security fixes [07:37] anyone else seen that, or heard of it? [07:40] mhb: Right when do they get released [07:40] is that on a aschedule? [07:40] I do not think so [07:41] hmm ok [07:41] although they plan something else for this LTS [07:42] I have heard gossip about doing a regular release, then having an extended "bug fix" period, then release the LTS ... perhaps just gossip, I dunno === kozz_ [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-159.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi-m [n=Czessi-m@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === erov [n=j@c-76-22-137-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uga [n=uga@unaffiliated/uga] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:31] guys, in the last kde update, something is running "import commands" as a system call, at the end of hte startup process of kde [08:32] it seems to be a python importing method, but runs as a system call instead [08:32] so it grabs a postrcript screenshot file called "commands" [08:32] anyone knows what's up? [08:33] right now I'm grepping the whole disk for this... === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] its' easy to notice, since once you enter the desktop, the cursor turns into a "take screenshot" cursor [08:33] a strange cross === Czessi-m_ [n=Czessi-m@dslb-088-073-021-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:34] uga: it is known, and I believe fritsch created a patch for it [08:34] ah, thanks [08:35] do you know the whereabouts so that I can fix it here temporarily? [08:35] that explains the goofy + mouse icon when you log in...there was an import in a python script for kdebluetooth was listed before the #! /usr/bin/python [08:35] import is an imagemagick screen capture command [08:36] /usr/bin/kblueplugd is the file with the issue [08:38] nixternal: thanks, kdebluetooth. Yes I figured out it was the import command running, but not what was running it === hunger [n=tobias@p54A73DB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] When will bluetooth work again in kubuntu gutsy? [08:48] /usr/bin/kblueplugd is borked but even fixing that does not allow me to use bluetooth here. === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] hunger: ask allee about that [09:00] allee: ping? [09:00] mhb: bluetooth has so many open bugs:-( [09:08] hunger: not my fault, I am afraid [09:08] mhb: I am not blaming you:-) === DaSkreech waves at hunger [09:09] I just defeated you hahahaha [09:09] DaSkreech: Hi there! [09:09] Seriously though [09:09] Would decibel be useful in kate? [09:10] DaSkreech: If they want to communicate via kate, then yes. [09:11] DaSkreech: No idea why somebody would want that (maybe collaborative editing?) though:-) [09:11] So kate could be gobby like with a decibel implementation? [09:11] Bingo [09:11] Oh another thing [09:11] DaSkreech: telepathy has tubes to tunnel dbus through IM. Might work with decibel (untested though). [09:12] does telepathy support short term short distance communication ? [09:12] DaSkreech: telepathy is basically a interface for IM protocols. It can support everything under the sun. [09:12] Right [09:12] But I'm asking if it can do discovery [09:12] DaSkreech: IIRC there is some bonjour based communication thingy for the OLPC. [09:13] right [09:13] DaSkreech: that is a telepathy thing, too. [09:13] that's telepathy based? [09:13] Ok [09:13] grr [09:13] quit answering things before I ask them :-P === DaSkreech grins [09:14] Where can I get the kde settings as set up during install? /etc/skel does not have .kde. [09:15] so if kate could pipe the online/offline state of known contacts into a framework that allowed one-two click sharing of documents [09:15] it's also feasible that it could do discovery of new people connected to a LAN and share documents with them as well? [09:16] DaSkreech: In principle that is possible. In practice that will need some work on decibel:-) [09:16] Well the framework for kate doesn't even exost yet so... [09:16] exist === hunger [n=tobias@p54A73DB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:18] Sorry, lost connection. [09:19] I was just saying the framework for kate doesnt exist [09:19] so no stress yet === hunger wishes for a search bar in kmenuedit. [09:20] There isn't? [09:20] Nope. [09:21] I just assume that if it's a kapp it has search === hunger wonders where kcalc ends up in the K-menu after install. [09:24] Ah, just takes a while for it to be registered by kmenuedit:-) === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@81.202.65.108.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pD950D3FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.16] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:14] Heya === waylandbill [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === waylandbill_ [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:54] yo [10:55] <_StefanS_> hey === norsetto [n=Cesare@host90-58-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === waylandbill_ [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === waylandbill__ [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-159.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === waylandbill_ [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-159.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel