[12:39] <adz21c> tabman: yea just select the ubuntu partitions, but that will affect ur grub install. If all you want is kde then install kubuntu-desktop
[12:39] <stdin> tabman: it's not an explicit option, you have to choose Manual Partitioning and choose which partitions will be for  /, swap (and any other you have). then choose to format them
[12:40] <tabman> adz21c: kubuntu doesn't uses grub....I still want dual boot after the installation ? no I've slow internet here it'll take very long for the kubuntu-desktop package to download
[12:40] <adz21c> kubuntu does use grub
[12:40] <Kachna> kubuntu uses grub as defalt loader
[12:40] <blubb> whats the name of the app that lets me change the sound levels with special keys on my laptop? How can I configure that?
[12:40] <stdin> tabman: kubuntu uses grub, just like ubuntu. it will detect your windows install and set grub up to use it
[12:40] <tabman> ok cool this should be easy to do then
[12:41] <Dr_willis> or at least its supposed to detect it. :) and i find it can detect other linux installs as well and set grub up for them.
[12:41] <tabman> ok cool
[12:41] <Kachna> blubb: i use keytouch for that :-)
[12:41] <Kachna> well not on ntb but it should work too
[12:41] <stdin> newone1234: what menu?
[12:41] <newone1234> the principal one
[12:42] <newone1234> I make it disappear and then i could not find any command to make it appear!
[12:42] <blubb> Kachna: whats the one shipped with kubunte? it has osd btw
[12:42] <Syufs> Ok, I just installed beryl, but I only see the beryl settings manager option and not the actual beryl launcher. How do I actually launch beryl?
[12:43] <stdin> newone1234: you mean the menu bar, with the file menu etc. ?
[12:43] <Kachna> blubb: mm isn't it this one? it is in kubuntu repos,but dunno if it's in install by default
[12:43] <acomaco> Syufs: try beryl-manager
[12:43] <newone1234> yes
[12:43] <stdin> newone1234: try Ctrl-M
[12:43] <acomaco> Syufs: if you don't got it sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[12:43] <newone1234> i tried that and nothing happened
[12:43] <blubb> Kachna: it is another one and already "working"
[12:44] <Kachna> well there are more of them :-)
[12:44] <blubb> Kachna: which one is installed usually with kubuntu????
[12:45] <Syufs> acomaco: I have beryl installed and the beryl settings manager which i can view, but I just dont know how to launch beryl itself to enable the 3D cube and what not
[12:45] <Kachna> no idea,thought there isn't any O.o I just apt-get installed keytouch and it works like a charm :-)
[12:45] <acomaco> Syufs: Install the Beryl-manager and Beryl settings manager..
[12:45] <blubb> damn why does nobody here no anything? Its always the same
[12:45] <adz21c> Syufs: from what I remember you launch the beryl-manager then right click on the system tray icon and it has some options for enabling it
[12:46] <acomaco> Syufs: Atleast it was the way i got it to work
[12:46] <Syufs> acomaco: They are already installed...
[12:46] <stdin> !attitude | blubb
[12:46] <ubotu> blubb: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:46] <blubb> Kachna: at least I need to know how to disable that one!
[12:46] <Syufs> acomaco: i just need to actually launch beryl... i can view the beryl settings manager
[12:46] <acomaco> run the command beryl?
[12:48] <stdin> Syufs: beryl-manager should be in the kmenu (either under Settings or System)
[12:49] <Syufs> stdin: the beryl manager IS there... but that's not beryl itself... i need to launch beryl so the settings i put in the beryl manager will take effect... they beryl settings manager is meaningless unless i can launch beryl
[12:49] <Syufs> oadsfaoisdfoadfj
[12:50] <blubb> whats the name of the app that lets me change the sound levels with special keys on my laptop? It displays an osd too, How can I configure that?
[12:50] <stdin> Syufs: you launch it FROM beryl-manager
[12:50] <adz21c> Syufs: beryl-manager launches beryl
[12:50] <blubb> I'm looking for the app thats already installed with kubuntu on default
[12:50] <stdin> Syufs: right click the beryl icon in the system tray to launch it
[12:51] <adz21c> blubb: lineakd?
[12:51] <bert_> oh a beryl problem :)
[12:51] <bert_> good
[12:51] <stdin> blubb: should be kmix afaik
[12:51] <bert_> i have some problems to :p
[12:51] <bert_> i can set up the configuration
[12:51] <acomaco> lal
[12:51] <bert_> but bery litself not
[12:51] <acomaco> bert_: wut? ^^
[12:52] <bert_> well ... i have the red diamond in the corner
[12:52] <bert_> but i can't get beryl working
[12:52] <Syufs> stdin: There is not beryl icon... i installed beryl and it said it installed successfully, but the only thing that is there now is the beryl settings manager (WHICH I CAN VIEW AND OPEN AND IT WORKS) and the Emerald Beryl Theme Manger (which also works) just not beryl itself
[12:52] <otzku> How do i make a shortcut for a wine program?
[12:52] <Syufs> stdin: All I want to do is launch beryl....
[12:52] <acomaco> Syufs: Open a terminal, Write Beryl-manager
[12:52] <SlimeyPete> if you right-click on the red diamond you can launch beryl manually
[12:52] <Syufs> acomaco: I don't want to open beryl-manger for the love of god... i want to open beryl
[12:53] <acomaco> Syufs: For the love of god just do it
[12:53] <bert_> can't do that slimeypete :-)
[12:53] <acomaco> Syufs: or atleast open Beryl in terminal
[12:53] <Syufs> acomaco: I've had the beryl-settings manager open this whole time...
[12:53] <Syufs> acomaco: but that does me no good if beryl isn't launched
[12:53] <Syufs> lol
[12:53] <acomaco> Just try it?
[12:53] <stdin> otzku: like you make any other link, but put the command like:  wine "c:\Program Files\Application\App.exe"
[12:54] <zerothis> can I upgrade to feisty from the command-line? <http://pastebin.ca/720061>
[12:54] <acomaco> Syufs: Beryl-settings-manager is not the same as beryl-manager
[12:55] <acomaco> Syufs: you can try to run beryl or beryl-manager in terminal :)
[12:55] <blubb> adz21c: lineakd... hmm seems not to be installed
[12:55] <adz21c> blubb: ok well thats the only one i know of
[12:55] <stdin> zerothis: you can, but it's better if you use adept http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a
[12:55] <Syufs> acomaco: When I just run beryl, everything goes blank. The 3D cube works and I can rotate it, but everything else just goes to a blank tan color
[12:55] <blubb> stdin: how can kmix do that? i mean with osd?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> thats means beryl is running. :)
[12:56] <acomaco> What happends when you run Beryl-manager?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> heh.. i rember why i avoide beryl and stuff..
[12:56] <acomaco> not beryl settings manageR?
[12:56] <Syufs> yup now that i know to just type beryl which took me asking like 20 times to get answered haha
[12:56] <zerothis> adept gave me those error messages <http://pastebin.ca/720061>
[12:56] <blubb> stdin: it seems to be kmix, is that patched or what?
[12:57] <blubb> stdin: who controls that? Because kmix is started automatically... :(
[12:57] <stdin> blubb: don't think so, but I wouldn't know. best place to ask that is #kubuntu-devel or #kde
[12:57] <Syufs> I figured there would be an actual beryl icon launcher somewhere like in gnome instead of having to actually launch it from terminal...
[12:57] <stdin> zerothis: yes, you have to remove or comment those repositories out
[12:58] <acomaco> btw do Kubuntu 7.10 include KDE4?
[12:58] <zerothis> oh
[12:58] <stdin> acomaco: not by default
[12:58] <Syufs> acomoaco: Not yet but it will
[12:58] <acomaco> okey
[12:58] <Dr_willis> Syufs,  beryl i though is a window manager thing. like kwin, or metacity - i thought. :)
[12:58] <stdin> 7.10 will not use KDE4 as it's default desktop at all
[12:59] <zerothis> I used a kubuntu CD, do I need to install another desktop to upgrade?
[01:00] <stdin> zerothis: no, just remove the repositories that are giving errors
[01:01] <wsjunior> i've just installed virtualbox ose and loaded my windows xp image, but there is no usb section to enable. do i need to create it somehow
[01:01] <wsjunior> ?
[01:01] <stdin> wsjunior: the ose does not have USB support
[01:02] <wsjunior> stdin: are u sure?
[01:02] <stdin> wsjunior: yes, only the proprietary version does
[01:03] <wsjunior> stdin: is there any ubuntu package for the proprietary version?
[01:03] <stdin> wsjunior: no ubuntu packages (because it's proprietary), but you can get it from http://www.virtualbox.org/
[01:04] <quixogre> woot! got kubuntu installed on my desktop now :)
[01:04] <ElecNinja> Congrats
[01:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:04] <wsjunior> stdin: theres only a feisty version there, is it safe to use it on gutsy beta?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> wsjunior,  try it and see. :)
[01:05] <Dr_willis> it might not want to install.
[01:05] <ElecNinja> On Kubuntu, Adept Installer seems to take longer when you start amassing a bunch of installs. Is it just me?
[01:05] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone know how to reinstall packages while specifying a different source
[01:05] <quixogre> okay. time to go cook for the wife
[01:06] <Doctor_Nick> ElecNinja: Adept just sucks
[01:06] <stdin> wsjunior: it may work, maybe
[01:06] <stdin> !away > quixogre_away
[01:07] <zerothis> I also have update-manager 0.45.4 not 0.45.2. Also, should I backup anything specific before updating?
[01:07] <stdin> Doctor_Nick: maybe with the -t option to apt-get
[01:08] <stdin> zerothis: you should always backup anything important before upgrading. you should always backup anything important even when not upgrading
[01:08] <Dr_willis> backup your backups also! :0
[01:09] <wsjunior> stdin: up and running. thanks ;)
[01:09] <Dr_willis> 'reduuant stack of backup machines' :)
[01:11] <Doctor_Nick> stdin: what does -t do?
[01:12] <zerothis> 2 days 22 hours and 35 minutes to update? fun, fun, fun.
[01:12] <stdin> Doctor_Nick: "-t, --target-release, --default-release: This option controls the default input to the policy engine, it creates a default pin at priority 990 using the specified release string."
[01:13] <stdin> Doctor_Nick: see apt-get's man page (I've never used the option)
[01:18] <NightBird> where is the info for the sessions section on the login screen stored?
[01:19] <stdin> NightBird: in /usr/share/xsessions
[01:19] <NightBird> ah
[01:19] <Syufs> Ok, I need to install my nvidia drivers without the X server running, how can I get to the command line interface without x server running? Isn't there a alt+ something i can hit at desktop?
[01:20] <quixogre> Syufs: CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:20] <Syufs> thanks
[01:20] <stdin> Syufs: why not use the packages?
[01:20] <stdin> why, oh why?
[01:20] <Syufs> stdin: As in the Adept Manager stuff eh?
[01:21] <Syufs> stdin: I've been using linux for 3 days heh
[01:21] <stdin> then you really do not want a manual install
[01:21] <stdin> !nvidia | Syufs
[01:21] <ubotu> Syufs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:23] <Syufs> stdin: I'm pretty sure I can figure out the manual install heh. It can't be more complex than doing sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-etc.etc....... right?
[01:23] <Syufs> or am i getting in over my head?
[01:23] <stdin> Syufs: actually, it is more complex. you'll need to compile it
[01:23] <Syufs> doh
[01:24] <stdin> and you'll need to reinstall for every kernel update
[01:24] <stdin> with no GUI
[01:24] <stdin> (as that will seamlessly fail)
[01:25] <stdin> use the packages, save yourself several headaches
[01:25] <Syufs> bleh, alright well i already manually installed the nvidia-settings menu which i probably shouldn't have done before the driver install but i think it won't matter heh. When i look up nvidia in the package manager a bunch of crap comes up, which stuff do i need to install?
[01:25] <Syufs> i appreciate the help btw
[01:26] <stdin> Syufs: follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-7f44311f6f4d40e7f6738d961752ae7c0772bfa8
[01:26] <ElecNinja> What is the best package manager gui anyways? Adept is pretty slow for me.
[01:26] <Syufs> stdin: Alright, looking at it now. Thanks
[01:27] <stdin> ElecNinja: there is no "best", some like adept, some like synaptic, others like apt
[01:29] <ElecNinja> I mean, based on your experiences. I know there isn't a "best" but there is a preferred for people.
[01:30] <stdin> ElecNinja: what ever you like. I tend to just use aptitude
[01:31] <Yut> Vot Charles-Alexandre Deschamps (Pour qu'il peut aller en tournoi de skate-board) Vote pour Charche-Alexandre : http://islandproductions.org/blog/?page_id=355Q
[01:34] <chook> how i can find ubuntu italia
[01:34] <stdin> !it
[01:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:34] <chook> :)
[01:38] <Doctor_Nick> !thatafricanclickinglanguage
[01:39] <Doctor_Nick> dang
[01:43] <quixogre> okay i need some video assistance...trying to set up a second monitor, and need help getting both kde and my video card to recognize it.
[01:43] <quixogre> second issue: when i launch beryl, it goes to a white screen. no text, no clicking allowed. any suggestions?
[01:45] <quixogre> anyone alive?
[01:45] <aguitel_> how i know the transfer rate of my ethernet card ?
[01:46] <quixogre> aguitel_: what kind of card is it?
[01:46] <Syufs> what is the command to stop x server and then start x server?
[01:46] <stdin> aguitel_: I use knetload to monitor it
[01:46] <stdin> Syufs: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:46] <aguitel_> stdin ,i am in gnome
[01:46] <Syufs> stdin: What about just stopping x server?
[01:46] <stdin> aguitel_: well, you can still use it :)
[01:47] <stdin> Syufs: replace restart with stop
[01:47] <Syufs> stdin: Thanks
[01:47] <aguitel_> stdin ,i necesary to install this aplication?
[01:48] <stdin> aguitel_: I'm sure there are gnome applets to do it too, ask in #ubuntu
[01:50] <quixogre> okay i need some video assistance...trying to set up a second monitor, and need help getting both kde and my video card to recognize it.
[01:50] <Syufs> Ok, from desktop i did cntrl+alt+f1 to get to command line... then I stopped x server but for some reason now there is just a flashing cursor and i can type stuff in but nothing works, I can't use dir, or change directories or antying, it's just a flashing cursor ugh
[01:50] <quixogre> Syufs: CTRL+C
[01:50] <Syufs> quixogre: It doesn't nothing :(
[01:51] <Syufs> does nothing*
[01:51] <stdin> Syufs: why do you need to?
[01:51] <quixogre> Syufs: CTRL+ALT+F7
[01:52] <Syufs> stdin: Was going to manually install nvidia driver (might as well learn the hard way if i want to learn linux good eh?) and besides none of the packages worked :( Always gave me a commit error :(
[01:56] <Syufs> Yea, it's weird. Every time I stop the x server I get a black screen with a blinking cursor and i can type but nothing does anything... absolutely nothing works :(
[01:56] <Doctor_Nick> dang
[01:57] <Syufs> whoops well actually if i do cntrl+alt+f1 AGAIN im fine haha... sheesh
[02:01] <markus> hi
[02:02] <markus> !nvidia
[02:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:02] <niyado> me gustaria saber como desactivar momentareamente compiz fusion en kubuntu para poder jugar un juego
[02:03] <quixogre> !es | niyado
[02:03] <ubotu> niyado: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:03] <markus> !chan
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <markus> !de
[02:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:08] <hassan2a> who has konversation ?
[02:10] <quixogre> i do
[02:10] <NickPresta> hassan2a, if you need to ask a question about konversation, just ask. People who can help you, will help you
[02:12] <hassan2a> how can i add a server on konversation ?
[02:13] <stdin> in the server menu
[02:13] <stdin> Connection > Server List
[02:14] <_2> !offtopic > _2    just anticipating.
[02:17] <stdin> maybe I could get Seveas to make ubotu auto "!offtopic > _2" every few mins... :p
[02:18] <_2> best use the *!UN-root@*   and not the nick....
[02:18] <_2> :)
[02:18] <Syufs> Welp, got the nvidia drivers installed and got beryl fixed and now I just installed flash and video works but not sound haha... I always got a problem hah
[02:18] <Syufs> any ideas?
[02:19] <Syufs> sound works on things besides flash of course
[02:19] <NickPresta> Syufs, which version of Flash and does it depend on the site or browser?
[02:19] <stdin> set " FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" " in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc maybe
[02:20] <Syufs> hmm... well i was using firefox ill see if anything is different in Konqueror real quick
[02:20] <_2> aoss ??   not alsa ?
[02:20] <stdin> aoss makes it use alsa, it can't use it natively it seems
[02:20] <NickPresta> stdin, I have it set to "none" and it works fine for me. I don't know if that makes a difference
[02:21] <_2> hmmm i didn't know.
[02:21] <Syufs> same thing in konqueror, trying the firefox_dsp="aoss" now
[02:21] <stdin> NickPresta: none will use /dev/dsp, which won't work if anything else want to make a noise
[02:21] <NickPresta> ABOMINIUS, you appear to message those two lines everytime you go away/come back. It's rather annoying
[02:22] <nicole> what does it mean to "blacklist" a module ?
[02:22] <stdin> Syufs: Case Matters
[02:22] <NickPresta> especially since you should be using empty() and/or isset() instead of checking for equality with "".
[02:22] <NickPresta> lol
[02:22] <stdin> nicole: stops it from auto loading
[02:22] <_2> adominius  that looks like a script error.
[02:22] <nicole> stdin: how is it done ?
[02:23] <Syufs> stdin: It's set to FIREFOX_DSP="none" but i can't change it to aoss becuase of permissions. How do i chmod this dang thing? It's grayed out when i go into properties... terminal stuff eh?
[02:23] <nicole> stdin: is a kernel recompile necessary ?
[02:23] <stdin> nicole: modprobe reads that list and won't load any modules in there by default
[02:23] <_2> nicole in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* files/s
[02:23] <nicole> stdin: youre awesome thank you very much, i was going crazy
[02:23] <stdin> Syufs: kdesu kate /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[02:25] <Syufs> kdesu kate in terminal?
[02:25] <NickPresta> Syufs, ues
[02:25] <NickPresta> yes**
[02:25] <Syufs> k thanks
[02:25] <stdin> or from Alt-F2
[02:25] <stdin> or KMenu > Run Command
[02:25] <NickPresta> heh
[02:26] <_2> or alt+space ?
[02:26] <stdin> and before you ask...
[02:26] <stdin> !baddevice
[02:26] <Syufs> stdin: Thanks for all the help dude
[02:26] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[02:26] <_matt_> what package is needed to install rpm's?
[02:26] <stdin> !rpm
[02:26] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:26] <_2> _matt a different brand of linux  :)
[02:27] <hydrogen> well
[02:27] <stdin> RPM's make babies cry < Fact
[02:27] <hydrogen> you can install rpm's
[02:27] <hydrogen> or convert them to deb's
[02:27] <_matt_> hummm...i thought i'd installed rpm's before on kubunut
[02:27] <Dr_willis> stdin,  ive been known to do that as wel.. :)
[02:27] <hydrogen> !alien
[02:27] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:27] <hydrogen> oh
[02:28] <hydrogen> same factoid!
[02:28] <stdin> !-alien
[02:28] <ubotu> alien is <alias> rpm - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 08:30:56
[02:28] <_2> you can install rpm then install .rpm's    :)
[02:28] <Dr_willis> 2 for 1 special
[02:28] <stdin> _2: nope :p the rpm deb doesn't let you :)
[02:28] <_2> but why, would be the question.
[02:28] <_matt_> well...does someone know where i can get libcss2 in .deb?  :)
[02:28] <stdin> _matt_: libdvdcss2 ?
[02:28] <stdin> !dvd
[02:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:29] <_2> stdin i didn't say the rpm deb.  i said you can install rpm    build it.  it will work.
[02:29] <_2> but again the question is "why"
[02:29] <stdin> because you like a broken system?
[02:29] <_2> oh yeah.  i for got.
[02:30] <_2> fore got
[02:30] <_2> forgeted
[02:30] <stdin> "forgot"
[02:31] <_2> disremembered
[02:31] <stdin> "unremembered" :p
[02:31] <_2> can't unremember.
[02:31] <stdin> or "my brain lost the reference to the identifier that stores that value"
[02:32] <_2> unattached inode.
[02:32] <_2> !offtopic > _2    just reminding.
[02:34] <acomaco> not to sound noob or so..but how do i install from a .deb File? ^^
[02:34] <stdin> !deb
[02:34] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:34] <sjck> hey, where can i set the volume of my microphone? :)
[02:35] <stdin> kmix, the little speaker icon in the system tray
[02:35] <soulrider> hello! im gonna reinstall my distro and i wanna move my virtual machines. What files do i have to backuo? I use virtualbox, do i have to backup the entire .virtualbox directory ?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> the system wide virtual machines might not be in .virtualbox
[02:37] <stdin> soulrider: best place to ask is #vbox
[02:37] <Dr_willis> i would say check the virtualbox docs reall good.. also
[02:37] <sjck> stdin thanks
[02:37] <acomaco> stdin isnt thhere anyway to instal it with a commamnd from terminal?
[02:37] <stdin> acomaco: sure "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[02:39] <acomaco> thx
[02:42] <intelikey> i can't say that i know why.  but it still tic's me off that they use 'dd' as a logging daemon
[02:43] <cowek> hello everybody, i'm trying kubuntu
[02:43] <cowek> it's really nice :)
[02:44] <intelikey> guilty   isn't it.
[02:44] <cowek> i've just found what I think is a bug
[02:44] <cowek> what should I do to report it ?
[02:44] <intelikey> !bug
[02:44] <stdin> !bug
[02:44] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:44] <cowek> ah :D
[02:44] <intelikey> !race ?
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about race ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <cowek> ok, it has already been reported
[02:46] <cowek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/86598
[02:46] <cowek> really annoying :)
[02:46] <intelikey> i'm not thinking that lester is even home....  @ stdin
[02:46] <ABOMINIUS> NickPresta: sorry 4 annoying u
[02:47] <stdin> intelikey: when someone uses an away nick change a kick is a warning, as you can't warn them if they aren't there ;)
[02:48] <hassan2a> who is playing at enemy territory ?
[02:48] <intelikey> lppked tp me like he spelled it cprectly
[02:53] <Willabee> Hey
[02:55] <hassan2a> who knows enemy territory ?
[02:56] <intelikey> i live there.      oh you mean the  game...  !i
[02:56] <hassan2a> you know ?
[02:57] <intelikey> no
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> he plays the occasional game of "war" though...
[02:58] <intelikey> what must be, must be.
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: I always win that game..
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> I erased it off my HD.
[02:59] <intelikey> when you don't,  you wont tell about it.
[02:59] <intelikey> :)
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> heh
[02:59] <intelikey> oh that game.   heh.   nm.
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[03:04] <Ahmuck> our lug has a user that is unable to view videos from cbs.  cbs.com is using a combination of flash and real video.  downloading RealPlayer-10.x, chmod a+x RealPlayer-10.x, and then attempting to sudo ./RealPlayer-10.x.bin causes this error.  can anyone help me figure it out?
[03:04] <Ahmuck> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:04] <intelikey> ok.  new report.   linux-image-2.6.15-*-k7  has a bug in the "loop" module.   if you loop mount anything, you can not cleanly shut down the system.   i.e. it becomes impossable to remount,ro / and thus you will have an uncleanly dismounted root fs.   i tried every avenue of removing the module,   it's not removable.    this bug affects *buntu dapper drake k7 kernels.
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> interesante..
[03:06] <intelikey> sorry Ahmuck it was quiet when i typed that.  didn't mean to burry your post.
[03:07] <stdin> Ahmuck: tell them tp look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:09] <intelikey> rightious vapor !     i'm root.    which box am i on...   ?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: it wasn't buried.. not all of us are working on 640x480 terminals ;)
[03:10] <intelikey> nosrednaekim and not all of you have more than one channel scrolling by in that window either.
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> lol... thats why we have TABS...
[03:11] <intelikey> tabs make me miss too much.
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:13] <Ahmuck> a nice feature of ubuntu community would be to have a "print" option for a particular web page of instructions
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> say again?
[03:14] <stdin> File > Print ?
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> like pipe a wiki into a PM?
[03:14] <intelikey> !print blah > user
[03:14] <Kevbo> can anyone tell me how to listen to the BBC world service on firefox ubuntu? I do not have real player or windows? thanks.
[03:15] <intelikey> ooops   sorry user
[03:15] <Ahmuck> the page points to a *.deb for RealPlayer, but the site has been down for a while
[03:15] <Ahmuck> kevbo, amarok
[03:15] <stdin> Kevbo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[03:15] <Kevbo> I have had trouble with that
[03:15] <Kevbo> realplayer download
[03:15] <Ahmuck> stdin: yes, but file print does not do a good job of formating the page
[03:15] <Kevbo> amorak
[03:15] <stdin> Ahmuck: canonical have a repo for real player
[03:15] <Kevbo> that is on the synaptic, I will try that
[03:16] <Ahmuck> ah, Kevbo does bbc use real player as well?
[03:16] <Kevbo> I think so Ahmuck
[03:16] <Ahmuck> that is what is what we are having problems with as well
[03:16] <Kevbo> they do have a choice between real player and windows media
[03:16] <Ahmuck> heh, i sent cbs a nice little note
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> 64 bit?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> wring channel.. sorry
[03:18] <intelikey> oh no.  i'm contagious, nosrednaekim has cought my spelling bug...
[03:18] <drif>  are any of us safe now?
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> np 1 |-|4vn7
[03:18] <Kevbo> another question....
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: Where are you from?
[03:19] <Ahmuck> i'm currently on gutsy, and there seems to be no RealPlayer in commercial for gutsy, so i'm falling back to fiesty
[03:19] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: north central kansas
[03:19] <intelikey> :)
[03:19] <Kevbo> how can I change my settings on evolution email. I cant specify which port for the smtp
[03:19] <stdin> Ahmuck: you can use the feisty package on gutsy
[03:19] <stdin> Kevbo: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, ask there
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Kevbo: here in kubuntu we don't use evolution, go to #ubuntu for that
[03:20] <Kevbo> ok
[03:20] <Ahmuck> ah, this might do it.  it appears to be fixing dependancies
[03:20] <Kevbo> actually I thought I was in ubuntu
[03:20] <NightBird> hehehe... we don't use evolution!  we're all creationists here
[03:20] <Kevbo> sorry
[03:20] <NightBird> (sorry, that was a bad pun, wasn't it?)
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: ah Ok I think that CBS blocks people from outside the US. You should be ok
[03:20] <Kevbo> Time for me to leave then NightBird
[03:20] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: unless your going through a US proxy :-)
[03:20] <DaSkreech> :)
[03:21] <DaSkreech> realplayer has a installer on the site I think
[03:21] <intelikey> NightBird i see you are infected also   ;/
[03:21] <intelikey> :)
[03:21] <DaSkreech> plus there is helix
[03:21] <DaSkreech> NightBird: I don't code
[03:21] <DaSkreech> well I do but some people might noe
[03:21] <NightBird> DaSkreech: I program video games for a living
[03:21] <DaSkreech> not
[03:21] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: yes, but mozilla-helix-player crashed firefox upon startup
[03:21] <stdin> helix is real player that can't play real media :p
[03:22] <DaSkreech> NightBird: PC?
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: >_M
[03:22] <NightBird> DaSkreech: wii
[03:22] <Ahmuck> NightBird: we need good linux games
[03:22] <Ahmuck> :-)
[03:22] <DaSkreech> NightBird: Ha ha how is that?
[03:22] <GUMM> anyone ever use nxmchine (no machine before)
[03:22] <Ahmuck> like a good fighter game, would be nice
[03:23] <drif>  Ahmuck: and you're asking wii-guy for those ;) soon we have marios and bowsers running about..
[03:23] <NightBird> Ahmuck: yeah.... well, if we're given the chance to make games for pc, I'll be trying to get linux support in the plan
[03:23] <NightBird> DaSkreech: it's interesting.... lots of work though
[03:23] <DaSkreech> NightBird: I don't think they have an indie channel do they?
[03:24] <NightBird> DaSkreech: ?
[03:24] <DaSkreech> !offtopic | NightBird, DaSkreech You know better than that
[03:24] <ubotu> NightBird, DaSkreech You know better than that: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Oh right
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Offtopic NightBird? :)
[03:24] <NightBird> heh
[03:24] <NightBird> sure
[03:25] <LogicalDash> Is there any way to get KOrganizer's month view to send me to the day view when I click on a particular day?
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> LogicalDash: if noone knows here, go to #kde
[03:25] <Ahmuck> ok, here is my problem.  a couple of days ago i was able to get the real player installed on my machine, and i can hear the audio, but i get no video in real player
[03:26] <DaSkreech> real real player?
[03:26] <Ahmuck> oh, btw, the repository for fiesty worked
[03:26] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: yes, real realplayer
[03:27] <Ahmuck> same with helix, and same with repository for real player
[03:32] <intelikey> what's good file transfer speed ofer scp ?
[03:32] <intelikey> over scp
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: 10000000000Gbits per second?
[03:33] <intelikey>  1.2m/s ?
[03:33] <Ahmuck> ok, so i assume that realplayer is serving up the audio, and for some reason the flash is blank, as when i left click i get "flash" options
[03:34] <stdin> intelikey: depends on the network speed and the write speed of the remote HD
[03:34] <GUMMM> anyone know how to run nx client. i have installed but i dont know where it is on my comp..linux
[03:34] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> hello tekstacy
[03:35] <tekstacy> What is the utility to convert rpm to something I can install
[03:35] <stdin> GUMMM: checked under System ?
[03:35] <stdin> !alien
[03:35] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:35] <ckorkuch> im trying to get wireless working on kubuntu fiesty - bcm4318...can anyone help?
[03:35] <GUMMM> hold on let me do that
[03:35] <tekstacy> stdin, thanks!
[03:36] <Ahmuck> can anyone else play cbs videos or bbc?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> !wifi | ckorkuch
[03:36] <ubotu> ckorkuch: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:36] <DaSkreech> I can play bbc
[03:36] <Ahmuck> at least that would let me know the problem was with me
[03:36] <ckorkuch> believe me im on hour 6 of looking through forums
[03:36] <ckorkuch> i think im so close but have no idea what could be wrong
[03:36] <Ahmuck> hrm, i have flashblock, noscript, and adblock installed.  let me try konq
[03:36] <ckorkuch> ive tried everything
[03:36] <stdin> ckorkuch: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty ?
[03:37] <ckorkuch> yeah ive been told not to use the default and to blacklist it
[03:37] <ckorkuch> with this broadcom version
[03:37] <ckorkuch> im using bcm4218 strait from dell instead
[03:37] <ckorkuch> 43*
[03:37] <stdin> how about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g%5d
[03:38] <ckorkuch> lol yes
[03:38] <tekstacy> I had a 4318, it was easier to just ebay an intel card
[03:38] <Ahmuck> hrm, now i'll try opera
[03:38] <usser> is there any reason why ubuntu reports 3200mb of physical memory instead of 4gb
[03:38] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: can you play cbs video - like CSI ?
[03:39] <stdin> usser: because you installed a 32bit system?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Dunno I'm not in the US
[03:39] <ckorkuch> ok well im done, going back to windows i give up
[03:40] <DaSkreech> ckorkuch: How far do you get in the troubleshooting guide?
[03:40] <usser> stdin: bah, really damn im a retard
[03:42] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:42] <albert_> hello
[03:42] <albert_> any1 there?
[03:42] <coreymon77> ya hi
[03:43] <albert_> does someone use mono (mcs) c# compiler
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> albert_: yup
[03:43] <DaSkreech> !mono
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <stdin> DaSkreech: there won't be a factoid unless someone adds it ;)
[03:44] <intelikey> !info mono
[03:44] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.3.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[03:44] <DaSkreech> You would think that someone would have
[03:44] <DaSkreech> !java
[03:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:44] <DaSkreech> See ^^^
[03:45] <intelikey> that's not a "factoid"  that's a function.  i.e.  apt-cache search %*
[03:45] <stdin> but java is infinitely more asked for
[03:45] <intelikey> i meant the mono one.  ^
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Yeah but in theory we should like mono more
[03:46] <intelikey> i suspose we should like java in theory.      heh.
[03:46] <stdin> so make a factoid up and request it
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Naw Java is going GPL I'll just sit that out and promote that instead
[03:46] <DaSkreech> apt-get source java!!
[03:47] <DaSkreech> that's going to be strange
[03:48] <Doctor_Nick> DaSkreech: it's already gpl'd
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Kinda
[03:48] <Doctor_Nick> (except for the stuff sun doesn't own)
[03:48] <hassan2a> bye all good night
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Bye
[03:49] <DaSkreech> What didn't sun own?
[03:49] <hassan2a> see you
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I would install kubuntu from this live dvd guys but I have alot of partitions and I want to pull out ubuntu and do a clean install as a dualboot next to xp pro
[03:49] <ubuntu_> I can do this by botting 2000 pro cd in repair console type:
[03:49] <DaSkreech> What?
[03:49] <intelikey> by all means hassan2a
[03:49] <ubuntu_> fixboot and fixmbr
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: say again?
[03:50] <Avt3kk> its me Avt3kk<<<<
[03:50] <DaSkreech> why don' you just format the partition with ubuntu then?
[03:50] <Avt3kk> I was going to install kubuntu remember
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:50] <DaSkreech> why don't you just format ubuntu partition ?
[03:50] <Avt3kk> dualboot see I made this tut see my partitions lol http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536491
[03:50] <DaSkreech> or remove Gnome
[03:51] <Avt3kk> I have a special video card see my tut
[03:51] <Ahmuck> k, CBS won't play in firefox, konqueror, or opera.  i can hear sound in firefox and konqueror, and opera gives me a grey start screen but hangs
[03:51] <Ahmuck> so, CBS is out of my list of things to get working
[03:51] <Ahmuck> i'
[03:52] <Ahmuck> ll just watch NBC instead
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Whooooo
[03:52] <DaSkreech> more things that block me
[03:52] <coreymon77> im in canada, so i cant even get it anyways
[03:52] <coreymon77> i just use torrent
[03:52] <coreymon77> better quality anyways
[03:52] <Avt3kk> Daskreech I think its a better idea to do a fresh install as a dualboot yes?
[03:52] <intelikey> Ahmuck you should email nbc about that, and let them rub cbs's nose in it.
[03:52] <Avt3kk> just pull out ubuntu and do it from scratch
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Avt3kk: Right so just format the partition that will dump ubuntu
[03:53] <Avt3kk> well I also have xp pro
[03:53] <Avt3kk> im not getting rid of that
[03:53] <Avt3kk> I want a dualboot
[03:53] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: do you want to format both of those?
[03:53] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: xp and ubuntu
[03:53] <coreymon77> ?
[03:53] <Avt3kk> no im pulling ubuntu only....
[03:53] <intelikey> Ahmuck there is nothing to move a company more than the competition gaining from their ignorance....
[03:53] <Avt3kk> keeping xp
[03:53] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: pulling as in fresh install
[03:54] <Avt3kk> only pull ubuntu not touching xp
[03:54] <Avt3kk> I know how
[03:54] <Avt3kk> fixboot fixmbr
[03:54] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: so, whats the matter, just only format the ubuntu partitions
[03:54] <Avt3kk> yes
[03:54] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: then grub will take care of the rest
[03:54] <Avt3kk> I want to delete all the ubuntu partitions
[03:55] <Avt3kk> keep the backup images
[03:55] <Avt3kk> and xp
[03:55] <coreymon77> okay then
[03:55] <coreymon77> so whats the problem then
[03:55] <Avt3kk> fixboot and fixmbr need me to boot to 2000 pro cd lol
[03:56] <coreymon77> why do you need to do that
[03:56] <coreymon77> cant reinstalling grub take care of it?
[03:58] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: reinstalling ubuntu will take care of any mbr problems you have
[03:59] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: because by reinstalling ubuntu, you reinstall grub, which in turn, fixes your mbr. allowing you to dual boot with grub
[03:59] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: using fixboot and fixmbr will only make you not able to boot into linux
[03:59] <Avt3kk> core why cant I use fixboot
[04:00] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: cause then you wont be able to boot linux!
[04:00] <Avt3kk> untill I install kubuntu...
[04:00] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: how many times have i told you that
[04:00] <Avt3kk> right
[04:00] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: install kubuntu in the first place
[04:00] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: that will take care of everything
[04:00] <Avt3kk> so did you see the video card I have on my tut?
[04:01] <Avt3kk> radeon saphire x800 gto
[04:01] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: installing kubuntu will install grub, which will fix your mbr and allow you to dual boot
[04:01] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: no need for any other tools
[04:01] <Avt3kk> I already have a dualboot
[04:01] <Avt3kk> with ubuntu
[04:01] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: then whats the matter
[04:01] <Avt3kk> maybe kubuntu does a better job I dont know man lol
[04:02] <meuhlol> hi all
[04:02] <Avt3kk> I want to pull ubuntu all the way
[04:02] <meuhlol> what's up?
[04:02] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: okay then, do that
[04:02] <Avt3kk> then install kubuntu and let it do everythin
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Installing Kubuntu will overwrite ubuntu
[04:02] <meuhlol> Avt3kk: what's the problem?
[04:02] <Avt3kk> so theres no reason to fixboot
[04:02] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: I think he doesn't understand the process of formatting
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Avt3kk: Correct
[04:02] <meuhlol> who? Avt3kk?
[04:02] <Avt3kk> and delete ubuntu all the way; so you dont think that will help
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: it will
[04:03] <meuhlol> or coreymon77?
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: delete ubuntu
[04:03] <Avt3kk> it wont do a better job
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: that will get rid of grub
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: then install kubuntu
[04:03] <Avt3kk> k..
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: and that will take care of everything
[04:03] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: period, no need for fixboot
[04:04] <meuhlol> [04:01]  <DaSkreech> Installing Kubuntu will overwrite ubuntu --> I CONFIRM :) Kubuntu will rewrite the MBR with his own boot images :)
[04:04] <Avt3kk> so now how to I copy my xorg.conf to be installed?
[04:04] <Avt3kk> from safe mode
[04:04] <meuhlol> save it to an disk or disket :)
[04:04] <Avt3kk> I emailed myself one
[04:05] <DaSkreech> well after Kubuntu is installed you can just mount it and copy it on over
[04:05] <Avt3kk> think I have floppy
[04:05] <peter_> can anyone help me install vmware on ubuntu?
[04:05] <Avt3kk> so just boot the live dvd and copy over from floppy its that easy?
[04:05] <meuhlol> and in boot just sudo cp :)
[04:05] <stdin> !vmware | peter_
[04:05] <ubotu> peter_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:06] <meuhlol> peter go to #ubuntu :)
[04:06] <peter_> ok i'll try those :)
[04:06] <peter_> i've been trying to get it to install for like ....ever :)
[04:06] <coreymon77> stdin: he wants to fresh install
[04:07] <meuhlol> yo stdin! how da ya? xD
[04:07] <stdin> meuhlol: ok, just watching from the distance ;)
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> peter_: if vmware doesn't work,use virtualbox
[04:07] <meuhlol> gniaks :)
[04:07] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: Hey! we try to be helpful here
[04:08] <meuhlol> stdin: lol
[04:08] <meuhlol> DaSkreech: gniaks? o_O what's wrong i said?
[04:08] <Avt3kk> so I should just install kubuntu and come back in the live dvd under safe mode to copy the xorg.conf?
[04:08] <peter_> virtual box?  never heard of it :)
[04:08] <Avt3kk> I can just copy it from the live dvd yes?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> meuhlol: he's not asking a gnome question. No reason we can't help him here
[04:08] <meuhlol> Avt3kk: can you just boot from your live Cd?
[04:09] <Avt3kk> since I will be in safe mode
[04:09] <DaSkreech> !emulator
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <DaSkreech> !emulators
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulators - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <DaSkreech> !xen
[04:09] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[04:09] <Avt3kk> im in the live dvd
[04:09] <Avt3kk> under safe mode
[04:09] <Avt3kk> or it wont boot lol
[04:09] <DaSkreech> !virtualizers
[04:09] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[04:09] <DaSkreech> That was it :)
[04:09] <meuhlol> and you wanna save your xorg.conf from your HDD ?
[04:09] <meuhlol> So it's easy
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> peter_: virtual box is great... and doesn't seem to have kernel issues like vmware sometimes does.
[04:10] <peter_> suh-weeeeet lol
[04:10] <meuhlol> mount your partition of your HDD with your xprg.conf into, and just copy it
[04:10] <peter_> ok i'll try it out :)
[04:10] <meuhlol> nosrednaekim: InnoTek like much memory :p
[04:10] <Avt3kk> im asking if I should just install kubuntu to my hd and then since it cant boot then just bootup kubuntu in safe graphics mode and copy the xorg.conf from the live dvd to my hd so it can boot??????
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> meuhlol: wha?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> Avt3kk: ro reason that shouldn't work.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> *no
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Avt3kk: install kubuntu and just copy the working xorg conf file to the install
[04:11] <Avt3kk> norednaekim my video card is radeon saphire x800 gto do you think it will boot without safe mode??
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> Avt3kk: no way of telling besides doing it
[04:12] <meuhlol> Avt3kk: no from your before config, your latest good config backup to your new. Sorry, I didn't good understanding you
[04:12] <Avt3kk> to the install before instyalled or what
[04:12] <cobello7> hi could someone help me share my dial up internet connection please?
[04:12] <cobello7> i dont know where to start
[04:12] <cobello7> I have read some docs and forum entries
[04:12] <cobello7> and I just end up messing things up
[04:13] <meuhlol> nosrednaekim: InnoTek VirtualMachine is an good soft, but he likes much DDR :D
[04:13] <Avt3kk> should an xorg.conf from ubuntu after being setup to work with my vid card work in kubuntu?
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> meuhlol: didn't notice
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> Avt3kk: yeah... should be the same
[04:14] <Avt3kk> ty :D
[04:14] <alejandro_> en zaaragoza las pavas tienen el chocho de escayola
[04:14] <alejandro_> esta mas que claro
[04:14] <intelikey> Avt3kk yes    *buntu == *buntu == *buntu
[04:14] <meuhlol> nosrednaekim: me yes, running on an old PC (x2 512 DDR PC 2700 lol)
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:14] <DaSkreech> cobello7: You want a net gateway?
[04:15] <alejandro_> i want not stupid guirl
[04:16] <Avt3kk> is gnome just old?
[04:16] <meuhlol> Avt3kk: no
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> old?
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> not really
[04:16] <intelikey> no it's just different
[04:16] <meuhlol> just not the same "working system"
[04:16] <Avt3kk> I mean theres toolbars on top and bottom
[04:16] <cobello7> DaSkreech: i am trying to set up either a gw or an ad-hoc arrangement
[04:16] <cobello7> but I cant seem to do it
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: over wireless?
[04:16] <meuhlol> you can configure that
[04:17] <intelikey> meuhlol   s/"working system"/"desktop environment"/
[04:17] <meuhlol> Avt3kk: but IMHO Kde is better :p
[04:17] <Avt3kk> configure 2 toolbars in kubuntu lol
[04:17] <towlieba> has anyone installed kubuntu in a virtual machine ?
[04:17] <cobello7> i have a modem that is USB device and I want to share the internet connection over a wireless card
[04:17] <Avt3kk> ook
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> towlieba: yeah
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: lol... thats going to be tricky
[04:17] <Avt3kk> will it install with everything I setup or no
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: what wireless card do you have?
[04:17] <DaSkreech> cobello7: You have two network cards?
[04:17] <Avt3kk> in the live dvd
[04:17] <cobello7> modem is all good - using it now
[04:17] <meuhlol> intelikey: but te manners to configure & Qt is not gtk ;)
[04:17] <cobello7> is ppp0
[04:17] <towlieba> nosrednaekim, what software did u use ?
[04:17] <cobello7> and wireless card apparently all good also - is eth1
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> towlieba: virtualbox
[04:18] <towlieba> nosrednaekim, im using parallels
[04:18] <cobello7> and also 2 standard ethernet, eth0 and eth2
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: but what is its chipset? atheros is only the one that will really work easily
[04:18] <towlieba> nosrednaekim, it says starting cups then it seems to hang
[04:18] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Technically once he has the modem working it should be easy... I think
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: can you do wired?
[04:18] <intelikey> meuhlol qt and gtk are only env's that run in the "system"    symantic, so i'll drop it.
[04:18] <meuhlol> [04:01]  <DaSkreech> Installing Kubuntu will overwrite ubuntu <-- you can make much more lol
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: not if its wireless
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:19] <meuhlol> intelikey: so that i say :)
[04:19] <coreymon77> towlieba: parallels is only for mac, not everyone has a mac, i do, but most people dont
[04:19] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: Yeah at that point it's easier to buy an appliance?
[04:19] <meuhlol> KDE powa :p
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: yeah..a wireless router. unless he has a atheros card.
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> and is willing to get VERY techincal
[04:20] <cobello7> nosrednaekim: it is zydas chipset, and other laptop has no wired eth port
[04:20] <cobello7> only another of the same zydas wireless usb things
[04:20] <towlieba> coreymon77, yes but im trying to install kubuntu in parallels
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: ah. do a "lspci"please and see what the line for the wireless says
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: wireless usb? haha... this is getting pretty impossible :)
[04:20] <cobello7> 0ace:1215 ZyDAS it is usb, not pci
[04:21] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: atheros is the easiest thing in the world on linux
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: is it possible for you to go out an puchase a cheap wireless router?
[04:21] <cobello7> the card is recognised automatically
[04:21] <cobello7> have router also
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: you're telling me thats why I ONLY buy atheros.
[04:21] <cobello7> but also been problematic
[04:21] <cobello7> i have an atheros usb wireless that wont work with linux
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: hmmm it is? try a lspci for me then.
[04:21] <jeri> how do i reinstall adept?i cant open cuz theres an error in it
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> jeri: whats the error?
[04:22] <jeri> wait..
[04:22] <jeri> here : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[04:22] <cobello7> what do u want from lspci, cant post entire output
[04:22] <intelikey> towlieba let me say this again for your benifit,   *buntu == *buntu == *buntu    if it's  *buntu it's one os  the added desktop environemnt and default applications is all that changes from  k/x/edu/*  what ever buntu you use.   so, you can install any and add the env of the others at any time.
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: should be a line somewhere that mentions a network device with possible "ralink" in it.
[04:23] <towlieba> intelikey, but that doesnt help me. intelikey i was able to install ubuntu just fine in parallels
[04:23] <cobello7> nope, but it is not ralink, it uses the zydas driver
[04:23] <jeri> helo
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: hmm never heard of zydas...
[04:24] <intelikey> towlieba and ?
[04:24] <cobello7> is tp-link brand with zydas chipset
[04:24] <towlieba> intelikey, its hanging at the part where it says starting cupsd with kubuntu
[04:24] <cobello7> is documented here and there
[04:24] <cobello7> as working well
[04:24] <intelikey> towlieba more info ?
[04:24] <cobello7> what I really need help with tho is sharing the internet connection ppp0
[04:24] <towlieba> intelikey, dont have any more
[04:25] <Nuked> I was taking a look at my /usr/local/bin folder... and I find a  number of files named stXXXX0xe3uj and other weird stuff
[04:25] <Nuked> I was taking a look at my /usr/local/bin folder... and I find a  number of files named stXXXX0xe3uj and other weird stuff
[04:25] <Nuked> sorry for the double post
[04:25] <intelikey> towlieba sure you do.   tell me how you installed what and where
[04:25] <Avt3kk> so I can chat here while it installs?
[04:25] <intelikey> towlieba then tell me what the "desired end result" is
[04:25] <towlieba> intelikey,  i downloaded an iso of the newest kubuntu and created a new parallels virtual machine and chose the iso as the cd image.
[04:26] <gabriel_> hi
[04:26] <Nuked> any idea why in the world files like that would show up in that directory?
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: looking :)
[04:26] <Avt3kk> I seen some guy watching internet tv while it installs lol
[04:26] <coreymon77> Avt3kk: this is a support channel, if you just want to chat go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:26] <cobello7> nosrednaekim: thank-you
[04:26] <towlieba> intelikey, it boots the cd and i chose the first option. i see the progress bar for a while then it goes away and i seewaiting to start cupsd then thats it for the last 15 minutes
[04:26] <cobello7> ive read a couple of docs, but they all seem to refer to an eth internet connection
[04:27] <Avt3kk> im asking can I chat there and it wont mess up my install?
[04:27] <Avt3kk> corey
[04:27] <intelikey> towlieba ok   and the  ubuntu CD didn't give this problem   like the  kubuntu CD is giving ?
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: sorry, I have to go go go!
[04:27] <towlieba> intelikey, no
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> cobello7: substitute ppp0 for the eth connection.
[04:29] <intelikey> towlieba and you installed to the HD from the ubuntu CD  ?    into an hd image?    or are you just running the liveCD in the vertual machine ?
[04:29] <towlieba> intelikey,  to an hd image, same as with kubuntu. and i am using the iso as a virtual cd and booting it as a livecd
[04:31] <jeri> had anyone tried mandriva metisse?
[04:31] <intelikey> duplicate the ubuntu image,  boot one of them, and in it  sudo apt-get remove --purge --autoclean ubuntu-desktop ;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop        should give you a working kubuntu image.
[04:32] <towlieba> intelikey, i dont have the ubuntu image any more
[04:32] <intelikey> oh.
[04:32] <intelikey> well that makes a differance.
[04:32] <towlieba> i liked it so much i installed it natively on another computer
[04:32] <towlieba> and ditched the virtual machine
[04:32] <intelikey> see, i knew you had more info that i needed....
[04:32] <cobello7> i cant substitute ppp0 for eth0 in these instructions
[04:33] <cobello7> the two types of connections are different
[04:33] <cobello7> i cant set a fixed IP for ppp0 because it is assigned one as it connects to internet
[04:33] <towlieba> intelikey, im trying it again with a completely new VM
[04:34] <intelikey> towlieba you said the "latest kubuntu"  is that a 'gutsy gibbon' ?
[04:34] <towlieba> yes 7.10
[04:34] <intelikey> ok i'm going to point you at the gutsy channel on that one.
[04:34] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu+1
[04:34] <towlieba> when i boot the livecd i choose the first option and the progress bar moves back and forth then hangs for a while
[04:34] <intelikey> or /join #kubuntu+1
[04:35] <stdin> there is no #kubuntu+1
[04:35] <towlieba> nope
[04:35] <towlieba> is gutsy considered beta ?
[04:35] <intelikey> yeah i don't know what state the new live CD is in.
[04:35] <intelikey> yes it is
[04:35] <stdin> not just considered, it _is_ beta
[04:35] <towlieba> oh i downloaded it thinking it was the stable version :p
[04:35] <intelikey> release is schedualed for next month
[04:36] <stdin> only just out of alpha actually
[04:36] <towlieba> maybe i need to get feisty fawn
[04:36] <intelikey> and the live CD usually laggs just behind the snapshot
[04:37] <intelikey> towlieba yes. if your network can afford the bandwidth  do try the "current" release
[04:38] <towlieba> by the way heres what happens
[04:40] <towlieba> 1. i boot the live cd 2. i choose the first option which is start/install kubuntu 2. i see the blue kubuntu logo with the progress bar moving back and forth 3. the progress bar hangs at the left of the progress bar. 4. i see the gui for a second then the screen refreshes and goes black 5.  i see starting K Display manager then starting cupsds 6. nothing else happens after waiting for 15 minutes
[04:41] <intelikey> ok what you are describing, sounds like misconfigured xorg
[04:41] <intelikey> try it in safe graphics mode.
[04:42] <towlieba> i did
[04:42] <intelikey> same results ?
[04:42] <intelikey> different ?
[04:42] <hdevalence> I'm having a problem with Kaffeine: it won't load.
[04:42] <towlieba> yes
[04:42] <intelikey> towlieba sorry, yes to which ?
[04:43] <towlieba> safe graphics mode
[04:43] <towlieba> same results
[04:43] <intelikey> hmmmmm
[04:44] <towlieba> well i am downloading feisty fawn
[04:44] <hdevalence> When I try to open a video, it gives me the loading cursor and then dies...
[04:46] <intelikey> well the fact the you see the "starting k display manager" tells me that the thing should then switch to svga mode and show the 'starting kde' screen   so whether or not cupsys is actually causing a problem, the real problem is that xorg is not loading,   and again i'm not sure what state the live CD is in in gutsy.   so i hesitate to venture any farther on that path.
[04:46] <intelikey> hdevalence call it in a terminal and see what error messages it spits out
[04:47] <hdevalence> intelikey: i.e. kaffeine <name-of-file> ?
[04:48] <intelikey> sounds right.   use the tab key
[04:48] <intelikey> !tab | use the force luke,
[04:48] <ubotu> use the force luke,: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:50] <hdevalence> intelikey: I didn't know you could use it for IRC...
[04:50] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[04:50] <tekstacy> How do I open Kate as root?
[04:50] <intelikey> kdesu kate
[04:50] <intelikey> !kdesu | tekstacy
[04:50] <ubotu> tekstacy: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:50] <hdevalence> tekstacy: Alt+F2 to run command
[04:51] <tekstacy> cool, thanks!
[04:51] <hdevalence> intelikey: so I did "kaffeine -p --verbose numb3rs.s04e01.hdtv.xvid-xor.\[VTV\] .avi" (the -p tells it to start playing), and it doesn't give me anything...
[04:52] <intelikey> no output at all ?   with --verbose ?    that's odd.
[04:52] <hdevalence> intelikey: usually whenever I start a GUI app it gives me 2 X errors at the beginning
[04:52] <intelikey> ls -l `which kaffeine`
[04:53] <hdevalence> normally it gives me "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171"
[04:53] <intelikey> yeah that's wacom device not found.
[04:53] <intelikey> it's supposed to do that
[04:53] <hdevalence> intelikey: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1366512 2007-07-30 08:19 /usr/bin/kaffeine
[04:54] <hdevalence> intelikey: the point was that it didn't give me that error when I started kaffeine..
[04:54] <intelikey> hdevalence you did run it in a terminal/konsole  not in alt+f2  or kmenu>runcommand  ???
[04:55] <hdevalence> intelikey: I ran it in an embedded Konsole
[04:55] <intelikey> just checking.
[04:55] <intelikey> hmmm   idk.  without an error message i'm at a loss.
[04:55] <hdevalence> I got a neat program called yakuake that gives me a drop-down terminal.. it's pretty cool.
[04:56] <hdevalence> Although I suppose I should be in #ubuntu+1
[04:57] <intelikey> yeah yeah, yakuake; cool cool!   but without an error message   plus one is  that way.---->
[04:57] <Avt3kk> ok so im back kubuntu is installed but im sure it wont boot with my radeon saphire x800 gto video card I have so what do I do now maybe copy xorg.conf to somewere?
[04:57] <Avt3kk> im now in the kubuntu like dvd
[04:58] <intelikey> Avt3kk can you pastebin the output of a command for me ?
[04:58] <intelikey> !paste | Avt3kk
[04:58] <ubotu> Avt3kk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <Avt3kk> pastebin what command output??
[04:59] <intelikey> Avt3kk cat /proc/partitions ;mount
[04:59] <Avt3kk> I have a dualboot system with partitions for images ok so dont freak out lol
[04:59] <Avt3kk> and xp
[05:00] <Avt3kk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39113/
[05:02] <intelikey> Avt3kk ok do you happen to know the number of the partition you installed ubuntu onto ?
[05:02] <Avt3kk> should I just copy my old ubuntu xorg.conf to my new system so it boots?
[05:02] <intelikey> yes   can you ?
[05:03] <towlieba> intelikey, kubuntu site has info on installed the beta of kde4. do you know if i ican install it if im using feisty or do i have to do it with gutsy ?
[05:03] <Avt3kk>    its /dev/sda7
[05:03] <intelikey> and that assumes that the driver listed in the "old ubuntu xorg.conf" is installed on the kubuntu system
[05:03] <Avt3kk> ok so were to I put my old xorg.conf???
[05:03] <Avt3kk> should I just copy it from the live dvd?
[05:04] <intelikey> Avt3kk sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media ;sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/etc/X11/
[05:04] <Avt3kk> so just type that?
[05:04] <Avt3kk> and it will work
[05:05] <Avt3kk> nothin else
[05:05] <intelikey> towlieba errr ummm i think you can.   but better ask someone that has fiesty
[05:05] <intelikey> Avt3kk just that.
[05:05] <Avt3kk> ok done
[05:05] <Avt3kk> im emailing the code to myself lol
[05:05] <Avt3kk> as root or what
[05:05] <intelikey> you can reboot now.  if you like.
[05:05] <Avt3kk> k
[05:05] <Avt3kk> ty
[05:05] <intelikey> welcome
[05:06] <towlieba> intelikey, its one of the main reasons why im installing kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[05:07] <intelikey> towlieba like i said, *buntu is *buntu is *buntu    if it's the same release it's the same system.  you can use anything in one that you can use in the other.
[05:09] <hydrogen> liar!
[05:09] <jbruckman> question:
[05:09] <jbruckman> how do I set up K3b to make copies of DVD's?
[05:09] <hydrogen> answer:you can change the color of your txt in settings>preferences
[05:09] <hydrogen> bah
[05:09] <intelikey> hydrogen @ whom ?
[05:09] <hydrogen> i typed to slow
[05:09] <hydrogen> too?
[05:09] <jbruckman> haha
[05:10] <jbruckman> sorry, not THAT much of a n00b at Konversation, hydrogen. :-p
[05:10] <hydrogen> I thought you were.. your text was coming out white on white!
[05:10] <nicole> anyone know how to get a wireless card using the ralink rt61/6125 chipset(linksys wmp54g v5.1) ?
[05:11] <jbruckman> :-p
[05:11] <jbruckman> well, since no one is answering, I'm going to go have a google party with k3b search terms.
[05:11] <nicole> err v4.1
[05:11] <hydrogen> I've never done it
[05:11] <hydrogen> or I'd tell you!
[05:11] <nicole> cool, cool
[05:13] <hydrogen> !wireless
[05:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:13] <hydrogen> poke around in there
[05:16] <nicole> !ndiswrapper
[05:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:17] <coreymon77> nicole: no need for ndis
[05:17] <coreymon77> nicole: it works native drivers
[05:18] <intelikey> it's also the same factoid
[05:18] <intelikey> as with !wifi
[05:19] <Syufs> Hi, when I run beryl I get some strange things happening. Everything seems to work fine but the windows become undraggable/unmoveable and the x and - minimize buttons that normally appear in the upper right of windows dissapear. If I want to close or minimize them, I have to use the bottom task bar. Any ideas on what may be causing this? I have to load beryl through terminal and when I launch it it outputs some info and says everything passe
[05:19] <Syufs> checks, but then it says reloading options and sticks there
[05:19] <Syufs> and if I close the terminal, beryl shuts down
[05:20] <intelikey> yes
[05:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. Does anyone here happen to use BIND and have a hosts file I could use as an example for a domain I'm trying to set up on my own DNS? #bind is completely unresponsive.
[05:22] <nicole> coreymon77: sorry was afk, not for me i can see networks but cannot connect
[05:23] <nicole> coreymon77: googled it and i see its a problem for many others
[05:23] <towlieba> intelikey, ive startd installing kubuntu feisty..
[05:23] <intelikey> Syufs the things you have described all seem perfectly normal,  you want the window decorations back you need to run something, (not that i know what)  you want it to auto start you need to link it to ~/.kde/autostart/  and the reason it closes is because you closed the controling terminal.  that's normal behaviour
[05:23] <intelikey> towlieba good on ya mate.
[05:24] <Firefishe> How do I convert my stock ubuntu installation to a kubuntu install?
[05:24] <towlieba> intelikey, it still seems to be stuck at the starting common unix printing system: cupsd
[05:24] <stdin> !kde | Firefishe
[05:24] <ubotu> Firefishe: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[05:24] <Syufs> intelikey: Ok, thx
[05:24] <Firefishe> danke
[05:25] <intelikey> stdin can you tell Syufs how to get his windows decorations in beryl ?
[05:25] <Myrth[home] > hi, trying to listen to any radio station on amarok, but it says "There's no available decoder" what do i need to install?
[05:25] <towlieba> intelikey, any idea ?
[05:25] <hydrogen> Myrth[home] : what kind of stream? mp3? wma?
[05:25] <stdin> if beryl fails, to restore the original KDE windows manager run "kwin --replace"
[05:26] <intelikey> towlieba can you access a console in the vertual machine ?     not very familear with vm's
[05:26] <Syufs> cool, thanks
[05:26] <towlieba> what do u press to get a console ?
[05:26] <Myrth[home] > Myrth[home] : http://at.ah.fm:8000
[05:26] <Myrth[home] > sorry it was for hydrogen
[05:26] <intelikey> towlieba normally alt+ctrl+f1
[05:26] <joez> hello
[05:27] <intelikey> towlieba but i don't think you can do that in a vm and stay in it can you ?
[05:27] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: any stream in the tree
[05:27] <coreymon77> nicole: okay then
[05:27] <towlieba> i am at another console
[05:27] <hydrogen> Myrth[home] : can you play regular mp3 files?
[05:27] <coreymon77> nicole: type iwconfig
[05:27] <coreymon77> nicole: does ra1/2 appear there?
[05:27] <intelikey> towlieba run  pstree    and see what is running.
[05:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ugh, screw it. I'm going back to Debian.
[05:28] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: plays ogg, now need to find on this computer some mp3..
[05:28] <towlieba> intelikey,  i am at the console log
[05:28] <hydrogen> Myrth[home] : you probably just need to install libxine-extracodecs
[05:28] <intelikey> um ok.   not a login console yet ehh
[05:28] <towlieba> no
[05:28] <intelikey> then something has indeed hung.
[05:29] <towlieba> yes cupsd
[05:29] <hydrogen> towlieba: hmm.. I wonder if you boot into signle user... nuke the cups script, then boot into multi user
[05:29] <intelikey> try booting it to single user mode    and run   update-rc.d cupsys off        or it may be cupsd  but i think it cypsys    then init 2
[05:30] <towlieba> hydrogen, im running the live cd
[05:30] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: this package unavailable, but refered by another package: libxine1-ffmpeg - this one?
[05:30] <intelikey> hydrogen did we think alike
[05:30] <hydrogen> Myrth[home] : what version are you using?
[05:30] <Myrth[home] > gutsy
[05:30] <hydrogen> intelikey: no, you waited for me to type then copied it and edited it
[05:31] <hydrogen> !info libxine-extracodecs gutsy
[05:31] <intelikey> towlieba     try booting it to single user mode    and run   update-rc.d cupsys off        or it may be cupsd  but i think it cypsys    then init 2
[05:31] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy
[05:31] <hydrogen> what?
[05:31] <hydrogen> it does here!
[05:31] <towlieba> how do i get to single user from the live cd
[05:31] <hydrogen> !package libxine-extracodecs
[05:31] <hydrogen> try libxine1-ffmpeg Myrth[home] 
[05:31] <intelikey> towlieba just add 1 to the boot line
[05:31] <Myrth[home] > ok thanks
[05:32] <Syufs> Not sure why this is happening, I just restarted after messing with beryl and noticing my sound stopped working... when it boots back up, i can't get to the graphical login screen, instead I see the command line stuff only. I tried stopping and starting the x server but it still takes me back to the command line and no login screen.
[05:32] <hydrogen> towlieba: when it tells you to press esc to get to grub
[05:32] <intelikey> towlieba the fkeys can explain it.
[05:32] <hydrogen> do it
[05:32] <towlieba> ok
[05:32] <Syufs> i can login in command line of course though
[05:32] <intelikey> hydrogen eeeek   that's drastic.   he can just add 1 and ont have to drop out of gui mode
[05:32] <hydrogen> Syufs: my first guess is that your video drivers are not loading for some reason
[05:33] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: nope, didn't help
[05:33] <hydrogen> intelikey: right, but you need to go into grub to do that
[05:33] <Syufs> hydrogen: Entirely possible, i installed them just earlier. How can I check if they are loading correctly?
[05:33] <intelikey> hydrogen no.
[05:33] <hydrogen> where else are you going to add 1 to the line?
[05:33] <hydrogen> Syufs: check `dmesg`
[05:34] <hydrogen> see if it has anything useful
[05:34] <hydrogen> Myrth[home] : did you try restarting amarok after installing it?
[05:34] <Myrth[home] > yep
[05:34] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:34] <hydrogen> odd then
[05:34] <hydrogen> I'm not sure what type of stream it is
[05:35] <Syufs> hydrogen: I don't see anything about video drivers :( It seems like there is info above what is printed out that i can't scroll up and see though
[05:35] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: in ps aux there's still kio-file slave socksets
[05:35] <hydrogen> Syufs: try dmesg | less
[05:36] <towlieba> intelikey, are u sure adding  1 to the boot= line goes to single user. it still seems to load the same way after i added that
[05:37] <Agent_bob> that's how long it takes to reset the modem.
[05:37] <Agent_bob> and it sure does get anoying.
[05:37] <Syufs> Says "Boot video device is 000:06:00.0" I dunno if that has any signifigance
[05:37] <hydrogen> no..
[05:38] <hydrogen> did you use the nvidia propriatary drivers before?
[05:38] <hydrogen> actually
[05:38] <hydrogen> what am I thinking.
[05:38] <hydrogen> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:38] <hydrogen> the end should tell you what the problem is
[05:38] <hydrogen> tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:38] <Syufs> k, sec
[05:38] <Agent_bob> tail -50 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[05:39] <Agent_bob> heh
[05:39] <hydrogen> very obsolete syntax ^
[05:39] <hydrogen> use -n
[05:39] <hydrogen> -number will be removed at some point
[05:39] <Agent_bob> yeah they always mess up a good thing.
[05:40] <dasnipa> tail -f
[05:40] <dasnipa> mm
[05:40] <Agent_bob> and as long as it works i'll use it.
[05:40] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: libtunepimp5-mp3 and libk3b2-mp3 helped
[05:40] <hydrogen> haha
[05:40] <Myrth[home] > thanks
[05:40] <hydrogen> best tail warning ever!
[05:40] <hydrogen> tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective
[05:41] <towlieba> is there a way to disable cups in the boot prompt
[05:41] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:41] <hydrogen> maybe?
[05:42] <hydrogen> there should be an option at the splash screen
[05:42] <hydrogen> to see boot params
[05:42] <towlieba> ive tried cupsd=off
[05:42] <hydrogen> it'd probably be somethiong like noprint or nosomething
[05:42] <Agent_bob> towlieba i doubt, without booting to  /bin/bash  and then if it's readonly you can't save and exit
[05:42] <hydrogen> try nousb as a drastic approach
[05:42] <towlieba> i cant boot the livecd
[05:43] <hydrogen> it's probably trying to access something that the virtual system will not let it access
[05:43] <Agent_bob> yep.
[05:43] <hydrogen> kn8!
[05:43] <Agent_bob> lp0 maybe
[05:43] <Syufs> hydrogen: Yea I got something peculiar in that xorg log...
[05:44] <Agent_bob> not wacom i hope.
[05:44] <Syufs> hydrogen: Says it "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[05:44] <Myrth[home] > hydrogen: also deleting .xine helped with other streams
[05:44] <hydrogen> Syufs: mm...
[05:44] <hydrogen> Syufs: what does `modprobe nvidia` say
[05:44] <Syufs> hydrogen: I installed the nvidia drivers earlier tonight, and it seemed like they were working ifne because beryl didn't work at all until i did
[05:45] <Syufs> hydrogen: I don't see anything about modprobe :(
[05:45] <Agent_bob> modprobe is a command
[05:45] <Syufs> ook
[05:46] <Syufs> when i do modprobe nvidia, it just goes to the next line without telling me anything :(
[05:47] <Agent_bob> no error means no error
[05:47] <Syufs> it did say in the xorg log that it did an "UnloadModule: "nvidia"" though
[05:47] <Agent_bob> it wont,
[05:48] <Syufs> and that "Screens found, but none have a usabl configuartion"
[05:48] <hydrogen> try /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:48] <towlieba> dammit i cant boot kubuntu live cd
[05:48] <Syufs> hydrogen: I did that already :(
[05:48] <hydrogen> since modprobing?
[05:48] <Syufs> no
[05:48] <Agent_bob> xorg will not rmmod nor modprobe -r   unless you really hack something
[05:48] <Syufs> ill do it again
[05:48] <hydrogen> it says UnloadModule nvidia as it cleans up after a crash
[05:49] <hydrogen> well, it unloads modules as it unloads
[05:49] <hydrogen> after an unsuccessful start
[05:49] <towlieba> any ideas
[05:49] <Syufs> yea restart the x server didn't do anything again :(
[05:49] <Syufs> it says the x server is running, just can't get to anything graphical
[05:49] <hydrogen> you need to look further up in the log then
[05:49] <hydrogen> oh
[05:49] <hydrogen> try
[05:49] <hydrogen> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:49] <hydrogen> it may or may not help
[05:50] <hydrogen> then restart the X server
[05:50] <Agent_bob> towlieba can you edit the image ?   you can remove the symlink   etc/rc2.d/S??cupsys    and then try to boot it.
[05:50] <towlieba> Agent_bob, i have an iso
[05:50] <towlieba> so no
[05:50] <Agent_bob> err no that's in a casper image on the disk....
[05:50] <towlieba> wait maybe i can
[05:50] <hydrogen> well
[05:50] <hydrogen> its doable
[05:50] <hydrogen> but its a pain
[05:50] <hydrogen> and requires a bunch of tools and stuff
[05:51] <hydrogen> as an iso is a readonly filesystem, so you would need to extract it, edit it, then turn it back into an iso
[05:51] <Syufs> hyrdogen: Says sudo nvidia-glx-config enable is a comand not found
[05:51] <hydrogen> hmm
[05:51] <hydrogen> i'm not sure
[05:51] <hydrogen> but I really need to sleep
[05:51] <hydrogen> :/
[05:51] <Agent_bob> iso not editable ?
[05:51] <Syufs> hyrdogen: How can I just unistall this bastard driver haha
[05:52] <towlieba> ok i mounted the image where do i find the cups symlink
[05:52] <Syufs> alright hyrdrogen, thx for the help :)
[05:52] <Agent_bob> towlieba it's in the casper image file which would have to be mounted....  so scratch that idea.
[05:53] <hydrogen> Agent_bob: you can't edit an iso directly.
[05:53] <towlieba> i mounted the iso and did cd casper
[05:54] <towlieba> http://rafb.net/p/rQ61k832.html
[05:54] <towlieba> the list of files there
[05:55] <joez> hello, are there any good irc channels you guys like to recommend?
[05:55] <Agent_bob> joez for ?
[05:55] <joez> for anything fun
[05:56] <Agent_bob> /join #perl
[05:56] <Agent_bob> or no wait.    /join ##windows
[05:56] <towlieba> so can u help me out
[05:56] <coreymon77> !windows
[05:56] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:57] <Agent_bob> see the squashfs
[05:57] <joez> where am I? perl or Windoze?
[05:57] <towlieba> Agent_bob, what do i do with it
[05:57] <coreymon77> kubuntu
[05:57] <Agent_bob> in it /etc/rc2.d
[05:58] <towlieba> ?
[05:58] <Agent_bob> filesystem.squashfs  that's the live CD   the rest is "fluff"
[05:58] <towlieba> how do i mount it
[05:59] <joez> hey, guys, (or girls?)  how can I configure fonts? my kubuntu does not look as good as Windoze
[05:59] <joez> twoleiba, type "man mount"
[05:59] <towlieba> joez
[05:59] <towlieba> i know how to mount
[06:00] <Agent_bob> mount blah -t squashfs /mount/point   iirc   but it's readonly...  so you are still going to have to extract the content and then either make an image out of the extracted stuff or rebuild the iso afterwards
[06:00] <NickPresta> joez, K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Fonts. Enable anti-aliasing, and then press Configure and play with sub-pixel hinting.
[06:00] <joez> towlieba - ok, why you ask " how do i mount it" if you already know.
[06:00] <towlieba> im an expert at mounting but ive never mounting a squashfs
[06:00] <joez> Nick- ok. thanks! I'll try that
[06:01] <Agent_bob> squashfs is one of those things that can't be mounted read/write
[06:01] <jbruckman> does anyone have any experience with k9copy?
[06:01] <jbruckman> I'm getting this error:  libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:1571
[06:01] <Agent_bob> towlieba that might even require a module  'modprobe squashfs'   idk
[06:02] <jbruckman> the error spams my terminal, but the number varies
[06:02] <towlieba> agent easier said than done
[06:02] <towlieba> i am not in linux ..
[06:02] <Agent_bob> yeah.  figured that
[06:02] <towlieba> im on a mac
[06:03] <towlieba> with a virtual machine
[06:03] <Agent_bob> yes i knew it was all happening within verts
[06:03] <towlieba> verts ?
[06:03] <towlieba> what do u mean
 with a virtual machine
[06:04] <Agent_bob> ok i'm cleaning out my system now.  to bloated for me.
[06:04] <Agent_bob> for Q in `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get -y --purge remove $Q ;done
[06:04] <Agent_bob> that should do it
[06:05] <rickey> what kinds of program can one run on a virtual machine program?
[06:05] <rickey> can you run windows
[06:06] <rickey> run a window OS
[06:06] <Syufs> yes rickey
[06:06] <Agent_bob> rickey yes,  or linux,
[06:06] <Syufs> VMWare for example can run any OS pretty much
[06:06] <Syufs> regardless of the platform it's installed on
[06:06] <towlieba> i think im gonna try vmware if parallels doent work out for me
[06:07] <Syufs> vmware = best virtualization software available
[06:07] <rickey> WHAT KIND  OF REQUIREMENTS DOSE ONES MACHINE NEED TO RUN A VIRTUAL MACHINE
[06:07] <NickPresta> !caps | rickey
[06:07] <ubotu> rickey: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:07] <rickey>  so about the cap,s
[06:07] <Syufs> rickey: try vmware.com
[06:08] <Syufs> rickey: VMWare player is free, u don't have to buy anything to run a virtual machine... their website is slightly misleading
[06:08] <rickey> oooooooooo ok
[06:09] <rickey> there are some programs that run on windows that wont run well on linux
[06:09] <rickey> thats why i am asking
[06:09] <NickPresta> rickey, http://tinyurl.com/2n8ae8
[06:10] <Syufs> and on that note it's sleep time... MONKEY CHEESE everybody
[06:12] <tekstacy> is it possible to make a mac .dmg work?
[06:12] <tekstacy> rickey, btw, also check out virtualbox, it's sweet
[06:13] <NickPresta> tekstacy, I believe you can decompress .dmg images with zlib and then mount the image to extract the data. As for "installing" it like a .deb or something similar, I doubt it. Google should have interesting links
[06:14] <NickPresta> tekstacy, check out: http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/
[06:14] <tekstacy> NickPresta, Thanks!
[06:17] <rickey> got to go ,i am slowing my downloading to much being here
[06:17] <rickey> see youall later
[06:32] <Willabee> I just got my resolution working for ubuntu, and it's not as clear as it is when I load it on XP for same resolution
[06:33] <NickPresta> Willabee, what do you mean, clear? Like fonts and such?
[06:33] <CharlieKane> change the resolution ?
[06:34] <Willabee> yeah
[06:34] <Willabee> fonts
[06:34] <Willabee> It's kind of blurred
[06:34] <NickPresta> Willabee, K Menu > System Settings > Appearance > Fonts. Enable anti-aliasing, and then press Configure and play with sub-pixel hinting.
[06:34] <NickPresta> Willabee, you will need to restart the application in question as the changes will only affect new applications
[06:35] <Willabee> k
[06:36] <adminn> how do I install java in kubuntu
[06:36] <Willabee> brb
[06:36] <adminn> it keeps saying stopping because it might break packages lol
[06:38] <avt3kk> guys help me install java please
[06:38] <NickPresta> !java | avt3kk
[06:38] <ubotu> avt3kk: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:38] <NickPresta> avt3kk, in a terminal, `sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre`
[06:39] <avt3kk> ty
[06:40] <caravaka> if kubuntu's runlevel is 2, how come it's loading daemons from level 3?
[06:40] <avt3kk> as root?
[06:41] <caravaka> for example, the bluetooth daemon's only marked to run in levels 3, 4 or 5 and NOT in 2
[06:41] <avt3kk> ok now what about firefox plugin
[06:41] <caravaka> but when I load up the machine, i check the runleve, it's 2, but the bluetooth daemon's loaded up too!
[06:42] <AmyRose> ziko: No DCC chats please
[06:42] <Willabee> is there a recommended Dots per inch for 1680x1050?
[06:43] <NickPresta> Willabee, it's a personal preference. Some prefer 96, others prefer 120
[06:43] <avt3kk> how do I install the firefox plugin for the java????
[06:43] <Willabee> K
[06:43] <NickPresta> I prefer 96 at that resolution
[06:43] <Willabee> and my last question
[06:43] <Willabee> I have Logitech USB speakers
[06:43] <Willabee> and the only sound I can get out of them is GAIM send/receive
[06:44] <Willabee> And that's only if I change all the sound from Autodetect to USB Audio
[06:44] <NickPresta> avt3kk, install the 'j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin' package
[06:44] <avt3kk> what do I type in the term to install the firefox java plugin
[06:44] <NickPresta> avt3kk, in a terminal, `sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre`
[06:44] <avt3kk> from the gui it dont work
[06:44] <avt3kk> it doesnt work for firefox
[06:44] <avt3kk> I did that
[06:45] <avt3kk> theres a firefox plugin
[06:45] <avt3kk> its not letting me install it from the gui
[06:45] <Daisuke-Laptop> avt3kk: welcome back from UU he**!
[06:45] <avt3kk> ty lol
[06:45] <caravaka> neone got some idea on the runlevel question?
[06:45] <avt3kk> now its not letting me install the firefox java plugin
[06:46] <avt3kk> can I do it in the term?
[06:46] <avt3kk> firefox java plugin
[06:46] <Daisuke-Laptop> that is the preferred way, see NickPresta's first suggestion
[06:47] <Daisuke-Laptop> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:47] <hdevalence> I'm trying to render an image with XaoS, but it keeps segfaulting
[06:47] <avt3kk> ty
[06:48] <Daisuke-Laptop> hdevalence: that would be more of a question for xaos's mailing list and/or forum, it occupies a pretty small niche most people here are likely not familiar with
[06:48] <avt3kk> I need to download it?
[06:48] <Daisuke-Laptop> that will download and install it
[06:48] <matthew> !ubotu
[06:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:49] <avt3kk> unmet dependancys???
[06:49] <avt3kk> im gonna pastebin
[06:49] <hdevalence> Daisuke-Laptop: Thanks. Just wondering, could it be because I'm telling it to do obscene amounts of work?
[06:50] <avt3kk> heres pastebin
[06:50] <avt3kk> http://www.pastebin.org/3757
[06:50] <avt3kk> what should I do?
[06:51] <brainwrck> hiu
[06:51] <NickPresta> avt3kk, do what it says: `sudo apt-get -f install`
[06:51] <brainwrck> wussup
[06:51] <NickPresta> !hi | brainwrck
[06:51] <ubotu> brainwrck: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:51] <brainwrck> is there an ATI open source for my latest ATI card?
[06:51] <brainwrck> I mean $U$E already has one
[06:52] <NickPresta> !resolution | brainwrck
[06:52] <ubotu> brainwrck: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:52] <NickPresta> brainwrck, Sorry. not the right factoid. Ignore that
[06:53] <NickPresta> !ati | brainwrck
[06:53] <ubotu> brainwrck: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <avt3kk> yay it works :D ty ty ty
[06:53] <brainwrck> NickPresta: I am talking about the open source
[06:53] <avt3kk> now about my video card driver
[06:53] <brainwrck> ATI has open sourced the code
[06:53] <avt3kk> radeon saphire x800 gto
[06:54] <NickPresta> brainwrck, I am aware of that. You didn't ask for ATI's open source driver, you asked for an ATI open source driver. One exists - it wasn't created by AMD/ATI though. As far as I know, there isn't an available package for *ubuntu
[06:56] <NickPresta> brainwrck, would this be of use to you? http://news.opensuse.org/?p=265
[06:58] <avt3kk> I need to install a network printer and a radeon saphire x800 gto video card driver
[06:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> avt3kk: if you want 3d, you're probably looking for fglrx, however, i'm not an ati guy, so i don't know if the driver in the repos is what you would need
[06:58] <Daisuke-Laptop> NickPresta: care to weigh in on this one?
[06:58] <avt3kk> can I use this tut? http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2006/10/25/getting-ubuntu-dapper-to-dance-with-ati-x800-gto/
[06:59] <Willabee> Umm, when I click enable desktop effects my screen goes all white
[06:59] <avt3kk> yes or no
[06:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> i wouldn't recommend it
[06:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> that's three releases old, things have gotten a lot more streamlined
[06:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> but since now at least i know the card is at least a year old, i would say...
[06:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> !fglrx
[06:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> that would probably be your best shot
[07:03] <NickPresta> brainwrck, http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/13122.html It has been put into Debian Experimental. Perhaps it will be available sooner, rather than later
[07:06] <brainwrck> NickPresta: w00t!!!
[07:06] <brainwrck> freaking awsome
[07:07] <adminn> so I cant setup the driver for my radeon saphire x800 video card?????????
[07:07] <NickPresta> adminn, did you follow the directions on !ati?
[07:07] <NickPresta> !ati | adminn
[07:07] <ubotu> adminn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:09] <avt3kk> feisty?
[07:09] <NickPresta> avt3kk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:10] <NickPresta> that is for feisty
[07:10] <avt3kk> im in kubuntu
[07:10] <avt3kk> its feisty ya?
[07:10] <avt3kk> im guesing
[07:10] <avt3kk> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[07:10] <avt3kk> its downloading lol
[07:10] <avt3kk> seems big
[07:11] <avt3kk> main restricted manager
[07:11] <NickPresta> avt3kk, yes. Then open up "restricted-manager" and install the graphics driver
[07:11] <avt3kk> will it auto open up?
[07:11] <NickPresta> avt3kk,
[07:11] <NickPresta> nope
[07:13] <avt3kk> how I open it up?
[07:13] <NickPresta> type it in a terminal
[07:15] <intelikey> what all dirs would one need to backup to "save apt" ?   /etc/apt /var/cache/apt   anything else ?
[07:15] <towlieba> ive got a problem in kubuntu feisty i cant load any sites in konqueror but i can ping that site in a terminal
[07:15] <avt3kk> http://www.pastebin.org/3759
[07:15] <avt3kk> thats what happened???
[07:16] <NickPresta> intelikey, /var/lib/dpkg/apt* and /var/lib/apt perhaps?
[07:16] <towlieba> hey intelikey
[07:17] <avt3kk> Nick what happened?
[07:17] <avt3kk> to my install
[07:17] <intelikey> NickPresta you mean   /var/lib/dpkg/available  ?  there is no  /var/lib/dpkg/apt*
[07:17] <intelikey> towlieba
[07:18] <towlieba> can i pm you
[07:18] <avt3kk> NickPresta what happened to my install
[07:18] <towlieba> intelikey, i managed to install kubuntu
[07:18] <intelikey> towlieba ah that should be documented on the forums   it's been in here many times.
[07:18] <avt3kk> think hes reading my pastebin
[07:18] <intelikey> towlieba glad to hear it.
[07:18] <NickPresta> intelikey, strange. `locate apt` returned /var/lib/dpkg/apt. Forget it then :P
[07:18] <intelikey> avt3kk i can't read it right now.  no browser installed.
[07:19] <avt3kk> lol
[07:19] <intelikey> i'm flushing my system.
[07:19] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh, I'm just blind. Check /var/lib/dpkg/info/apt*
[07:19] <intelikey> NickPresta oh.  heh that's just the .deb information.  :)
[07:19] <avt3kk> warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[07:19] <avt3kk> /usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[07:19] <avt3kk> thats a small portion
[07:20] <NickPresta> avt3kk, did your installation of restricted-manager succeed?
[07:20] <avt3kk> nope
[07:20] <avt3kk> I try to run and it crashes
[07:20] <intelikey> avt3kk ok.  but warnings are not errors.  any errors ?
[07:20] <avt3kk> seems like it finished though
[07:20] <NickPresta> avt3kk, your installation. When you did `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager` did that work?
[07:20] <avt3kk> : assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[07:21] <avt3kk> yes it did
[07:21] <avt3kk> but when I try to run it crashes dont even open up
[07:22] <avt3kk> this is getting complicated
[07:22] <NickPresta> avt3kk, just try doing `kdesu restricted-manager`
[07:22] <NickPresta> instead of doing sudo su
[07:22] <avt3kk> yes :D
[07:23] <NickPresta> I assume it worked?
[07:26] <coreymon77> okay, bed time, goodnight everyone
[07:26] <NickPresta> goodnight
[07:27] <avt3kk> ok I enabled it so ctrl alt backspace??
[07:27] <avt3kk> yes??
[07:27] <avt3kk> I dont see lattic screensaver why
[07:27] <avt3kk> I love that
[07:27] <NickPresta> you need to start X
[07:28] <avt3kk> how
[07:28] <intelikey> startx
[07:28] <NickPresta> sorry, restart X
[07:28] <NickPresta> control + alt + backspace should work
[07:29] <avt3kk> ty
[07:30] <adminn> how do I install lattic screensaver????
[07:31] <adminn> the new ati driver worked ty I emailed to myself :) ahahhaha
[07:31] <Lynoure> what's lattic screensaver?
[07:31] <adminn> I want to do lattic screensaver then printer tomarrow if I have time
[07:32] <adminn> see lattice http://www.reallyslick.com/
[07:32] <Lynoure> oh, lattice
[07:32] <adminn> lol
[07:32] <Lynoure> lol, yes, you mistyped it many times
[07:33] <avt3kk> sorry
[07:33] <Lynoure> It's ok, just made it a bit hard to understand (I'm not a native speaker)
[07:33] <avt3kk> so whats the easiest way to install it
[07:34] <Lynoure> I though the lattice was one of the standard ubuntu screensavers...
[07:34] <avt3kk> I found it in pachages
[07:35] <Lynoure> I'm on kubuntu, though, so I'm not sure.
[07:35] <towlieban> i need help i cant open any sites in konqueror but i can ping any site in terminal
[07:35] <avt3kk> brb
[07:35] <towlieban> c an anyone help me out
[07:35] <Lynoure> towlieban: with name or with ip?
[07:35] <towlieban> name
[07:36] <towlieban> i can ping yahoo,google or any site in terminal
[07:36] <towlieban> its not a dns issue
[07:36] <Lynoure> towlieban: You have installed some firewall that blocks port 80?
[07:36] <towlieban> no
[07:36] <avt3kk> man its installed but its black see nothin
[07:36] <towlieban> this is after a fresh install of kubuntu
[07:37] <avt3kk> so what should I do guys?
[07:37] <Lynoure> towlieban: the firewall can be outside your device, too...  What happens if you    telnet google.com 80  ?
[07:37] <avt3kk> I installed lattice but its black I cant see it
[07:38] <towlieban> Lynoure, its hanging
[07:38] <Lynoure> towlieban: then sounds like a firewall, still, if it does not get connected
[07:38] <avt3kk> the preview is black and it cant even preview when I click the preview button<<<<
[07:38] <towlieban> i dont have any firewall
[07:38] <avt3kk> what should I do??
[07:39] <Lynoure> towlieban: right now (before breakfast) I cannot think of any other likely explanations, if pings (and traceroutes) go through fine
[07:40] <Lynoure> and the ping also gives a proper ip?
[07:40] <towlieban> yep seems so
[07:40] <towlieban> i just did an  install of kubuntu an hour ago and havent installed anything
[07:40] <Mr_Sonoma> !ati
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <avt3kk> mr_sonoma is that for me? I just instaled somethin
[07:40] <Lynoure> towlieban: most people have a firewall, despite what they think as most adsl devices have one...
[07:41] <towlieban> i dont
[07:41] <avt3kk> I did this:
[07:41] <towlieban> i know for sure i dont
[07:41] <avt3kk> sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <avt3kk> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[07:41] <Mr_Sonoma> no sorry was formyself
[07:41] <Mr_Sonoma> avt3kk, no sorry was for myself
[07:41] <Lynoure> towlieban: can you access web from any other computer in the lan?
[07:41] <avt3kk> not me? :O
[07:41] <avt3kk> wasnt what I tryed the right one or no
[07:41] <towlieban> Lynoure, i installed kubuntu in a vm by the way
[07:42] <towlieban> Lynoure, yes i can
[07:42] <Lynoure> towlieban: and what os in the vm in?
[07:42] <towlieban> the host ?
[07:42] <avt3kk> mr_sonoma what I did wasnt right?
[07:42] <Lynoure> towlieban: yes.
[07:42] <towlieban> Lynoure, mac os x
[07:43] <Mr_Sonoma> avt3kk, hold on let me read back cause i was working on one of my systems and not looking at the channel, i needed that link formyself
[07:43] <avt3kk> ook ty
[07:44] <avt3kk> should I force a kernal rebuid
[07:45] <avt3kk> ubuntu was never this hard lol
[07:45] <towlieban> Lynoure, any ideas?
[07:45] <Lynoure> towlieban: probably something in the installation wonky, but I don't really do os x.
[07:45] <towlieban> it has nothing to do with osx
[07:46] <Lynoure> towlieban: how did you verify that?
[07:46] <towlieban> i am using vmware with osx as the host. in the host everythin g works perfectly
[07:46] <Mr_Sonoma> uh those are 3d screen savers???? if so your going to need someone with a little more experiance setting up the 3d effects in xorg than i have
[07:46] <Lynoure> towlieban: and everything in guests also have, every time before?
[07:46] <avt3kk> I cant get lattice to work or even install my printer thats messed up
[07:46] <towlieban> yes i used to run ubuntu in vmware and it worked
[07:47] <avt3kk> I have ubuntu as a dualboot next to xp pro both have backup images :P
[07:47] <avt3kk> I can bring it back if I get frustrated like now lol
[07:47] <avt3kk> but then you guys helped me alot so
[07:47] <avt3kk> im not doing that to you guys
[07:48] <avt3kk> I emailed myself all the stuff I did
[07:48] <Lynoure> towlieban: ok, then try tcpdump on the host side, just for fun
[07:48] <avt3kk> so I can do it on my own
[07:48] <Lynoure> towlieban: and on the guest side, maybe too
[07:48] <intelikey> tty24 [root@computer.~]  dpkg -P --force-all linux-image-2.6.15-29-386
[07:48] <intelikey> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6.15-29-386 which isn't installed.
[07:48] <avt3kk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:48] <towlieban> Lynoure, it says no suitable device found on the host
[07:48] <intelikey> how to "un-break" that package ?
[07:48] <avt3kk> should I do the kernal rebuild force?
[07:49] <avt3kk> intel is that for java
[07:49] <avt3kk> I have the term code
[07:49] <avt3kk> in my email lol
[07:49] <jimmacdonald> so when is the dist upgrade due to drop?
[07:50] <jimmacdonald> !dist upgrade
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist upgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <avt3kk> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[07:50] <avt3kk> sudo apt-get -f install
[07:51] <avt3kk> thats how I installed java
[07:51] <ubunturos>  !dist-upgrade
[07:51] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:51] <avt3kk> so why isnt my lattice working????
[07:52] <towlieban> Lynoure, i am booting the livecd to see if it works in the livecd
[07:53] <Lynoure> towlieban: sounds like a good thing to do.
[07:53] <towlieban> i have the iso for feisty and gutsy
[07:53] <towlieban> gonna try both.
[07:53] <towlieban> ultimately i want to install the beta of kde4
[07:54] <jimmacdonald> Ok another question... how stable is the Beta?
[07:55] <towlieban> Lynoure, same problem with live cd
[07:56] <avt3kk> help me install the network printer in ubuntu ultimate itauto found it but not kubuntu
[07:57] <Ash-Fox> avt3kk, K -> System settings -> printers - you should be able to set it up there.
[07:57] <Lynoure> towlieban: interesting, but really hard to troubleshoot. I got to web with gutsy livecd just fine...
[07:57] <pillowpants> can pidgin be compiled on dapper drake?
[07:57] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, no.
[07:57] <towlieban> Lynoure, yes but you arent running it in a vm
[07:58] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox : why not?
[07:58] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, because dapper lacks the necessary upto date libraries
[07:58] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox : couldnt one download them?
[07:58] <Lynoure> towlieban: yes, that's why I was suspecting your vmware configuration... but you said it was not that, so.
[07:59] <towlieban> i dunno
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, yes, but it requires upgrading a lot of things on the system in the process.
[07:59] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox : such as what?
[07:59] <pillowpants> im willing to do it
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, as the libraries also require newer versions of other things.. it's rather bad dependency cycle, you'll be wasting a lot of time.
[07:59] <_2> !gaim
[07:59] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:59] <towlieban> Lynoure, i have it set in vmware to use NAT
[08:00] <pillowpants> _2: pidgin is the newest ver of gaim, i just want pidgin
[08:00] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, honestly, I don't remember off the top of my head. Just run configure on pidgin and see what it complains about, install those libraries, configure them, see what they want etc.
[08:00] <avt3kk> I cant set up my printer dmt
[08:00] <towlieban> that is share the hosts internet connection
[08:00] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox : heh, yeah thats what ive been doing and wondering why it was taking so long to get it to work
[08:00] <_2> pillowpants then use the newest version of ubuntu
[08:00] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, if you were using edgy or feisty I'd give you my repository which has the latest pidgin built for them.
[08:00] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox : thats for the heads up though
[08:01] <pillowpants> _2: dapper is the only one that everything worked out of box for me, with the least headache
[08:01] <IT-partisan_> hi, guys, looking for a tool to centralize configuration of many Kubuntu boxes, am i at right place?)
[08:01] <pillowpants> im going to upgrade to the next lts when it comes out
[08:01] <_2> pillowpants then use gaim
[08:01] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, that's not very good :/
[08:01] <pillowpants> _2: yeah, probably will
[08:02] <Ahmuck> IT-partisan_:  yes, it can be done
[08:02] <Ash-Fox> gaim no longer works properly with yahoo and msn.
[08:02] <_2> !common-sense
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about common-sense - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <_2> !common-sence
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about common-sence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <_2> figures.
[08:02] <IT-partisan_> Ahmuck, what would you recommend&
[08:02] <avt3kk> I setup to our hp combo printer hahaha
[08:02] <avt3kk> lmfaooo
[08:02] <jimmacdonald> now that's funny..
[08:03] <avt3kk> its different from the regular printer
[08:03] <jimmacdonald> how do I enable the beta dist-upgrade?
[08:04] <Ash-Fox> jimmacdonald, enable backports repository in adept.
[08:04] <Ahmuck> IT-partisan_: there is a tool that will do it
[08:04] <pillowpants> speaking of which, does anyone know when gutsy will be out?
[08:04] <pillowpants> in stable edition
[08:04] <Ahmuck> http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
[08:05] <prak> quick questions on Makefiles: does "missing operator" in an error message of a make command usually mean operators like "-c", "-o" are missing?
[08:05] <Ash-Fox> pillowpants, it is already out, as is feisty in stable..
[08:05] <Ahmuck> pillowpants: there is an ubuntu release schedule, and they are following it
[08:05] <_2> major malfunction.   this: apt-get remove ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu ttf-freefont sgml-base
[08:05] <Ash-Fox> oops poo, sorry got muddled up in codenames
[08:05] <pillowpants> Ash-Fox, Ahmuck: Yeah, i just checked wiki
[08:05] <_2> trys to reinstall 1.4g of packages
[08:05] <Ahmuck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[08:05] <pillowpants> it hadnt occured to me i could upgrade already
[08:06] <Ahmuck> pillowpants: i am using the beta now
[08:06] <_2> it shouldn't do that.
[08:06] <avt3kk> so now about my lattice not working what should I do???
[08:06] <pillowpants> Ahmuck : how is it?
[08:06] <Ahmuck> i was using tribe5 ok, beta just has some nice bug fixes.  bugs i can tolerate anyhow
[08:06] <jimmacdonald> Ash-Fox: I don't have a backports repository in Adept... I have a preleased updates.
[08:06] <IT-partisan_> Ahmuk, ok, i'll look it
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> jimmacdonald, that's backports :)
[08:07] <jimmacdonald> OK thought so.
[08:07] <IT-partisan_> Ahmuck, I've found puppet, what do you think about it?
[08:07] <Ahmuck> IT-partisan_: have not looked at that yet, you have a link?
[08:07] <pillowpants> Ahmuck : neat
[08:07] <IT-partisan_> 1sec
[08:08] <pillowpants> i read its possible to upgrade from dapper directly to gutsy
[08:08] <pillowpants> that is true, correct?
[08:08] <pillowpants> from one lts to another
[08:08] <Ahmuck> some new artwork, dolphin and strigi is about all the real changes i could tell.
[08:09] <IT-partisan_> Ahmuck, http://puppet.reductivelabs.com/ - but it is more common, it helps to manage host configuration
[08:09] <avt3kk> so how should I get lattice screensaver working?
[08:09] <prak> sorry; asked my questions in the wrong channel
[08:09] <gustavo> can anybody help? [Sun Sep 30 02:24:34 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.6 d\xd4U PHP/5.2.4   configured -- resuming normal operations ... but i cant load php pages :/
[08:09] <jimmacdonald> Ash-Fox: It didn't give me any updates.
[08:10] <avt3kk> I want to get lattice screensaver working in my kubuntu
[08:12] <avt3kk> please guys what should I do? dad will make me sleep not sure when
[08:12] <towlieban> can anyone help me out i ibooted kubuntu livecd and i cant connect to any sites in konqueror but i can ping those same sites in terminal
[08:12] <avt3kk> Towl static ip?
[08:12] <towlieban> no dhcp
[08:13] <avt3kk> I dunno man I got static
[08:13] <IT-partisan_> towl, do you have proxy?
[08:13] <towlieban> no
[08:13] <avt3kk> try checking start on boot
[08:13] <Ahmuck> avt3kk: comming back another day won't hurt.  but getting your dad upset cause your using kubuntu hurts the distro
[08:13] <towlieban> i am booting kubuntu in a vm
[08:13] <avt3kk> the check box mine didnt work untill I did
[08:13] <IT-partisan_> try wget google.com, does it work?
[08:14] <avt3kk> Ahmuck of course I wil lsleep
[08:14] <avt3kk> im hoping to do something before I got to go lololol
[08:14] <avt3kk> no big deal
[08:15] <avt3kk> Ahmuck I love kubuntu
[08:15] <avt3kk> just a bit hard to setup
[08:15] <towlieban> no kidding
[08:16] <jimmacdonald> Ash-Fox: ?
[08:17] <Ash-Fox> jimmacdonald, if it was already checked, there likely isn't any updates. If you're using the terminal, did you do a sudo apt-get update first?
[08:18] <towlieban> can anyone help me out i i booted kubuntu livecd and i cant connect to any sites in konqueror but i can ping those same sites in terminal
[08:19] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude ... it's resolve dependacies
[08:21] <towlieban> figured it out
[08:22] <jimmacdonald> not using the terminal and it wasn't already checked.
[08:26] <avt3kk> so how do I get the lattice screensaver working guys???
[08:31] <jimmacdonald> Ash-Fox: I repointed adept to the UK servers, and reloaded.. that didn't work either. Is it possible that the beta's havein
[08:31] <jimmacdonald> Ash-Fox: haven't been released yet?
[08:34] <Ahmuck> jimmacdonald: kubuntu gutsy beta?
[08:34] <jimmacdonald> yeah
[08:34] <Ahmuck> i'm using the beta
[08:34] <jimmacdonald> trying to use Adept to dist-upgrade to it but can't?
[08:35] <jimmacdonald> how stable is it?
[08:35] <Ahmuck> it's stable for me
[08:35] <Ahmuck> what do you plan to do with it?
[08:35] <jimmacdonald> internet, email that's about it.
[08:35] <Ahmuck> i went with fresh install, so my situation is different
[08:36] <jimmacdonald> wireless ...
[08:40] <Ash-Fox> jimmacdonald, you likely have all the updates for the installed applications you have... if you want kde4, you will need to install the kde4 package etc.
[08:41] <Ahmuck> i wouldn't.  i hear kde4 is really unstable, hardly usable at the moment, unless i'm wrong
[08:44] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu have hardware recomendations for LTSP?  5 users need this much server hardware, 10 need this much etc.
[08:44] <Daisuke_Ido> asmuch as i hate to admit it, i think deluge has ktorrent beat for "linux torrent client that isn't azureus"
[08:45] <Ahmuck> Daisuke_Ido: i moved to ktorrent because i was having troubles with azureus crashing.  guess i'll look at deluge
[08:45] <Daisuke_Ido> deluge is the closest thing to utorrent i've seen
[08:46] <Daisuke_Ido> but it is gtk+ rather than qt
[08:48] <pillowpants> whats the command for create dir
[08:48] <pillowpants> such as creat dir /etc/blah blah
[08:51] <Daisuke_Ido> pillowpants: mkdir
[08:56] <avt3kk> so I will never get the lattice screensaver working......
[08:57] <Lynoure> avt3kk: you already have the ati driver installed and stuffL
[08:57] <Lynoure> s/L/?
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[08:58] <Lynoure> I don't get any screensavers... I want my screen to go black instead :)
[08:58] <avt3kk> Lynoure I try it and it isnt working man'
[08:58] <avt3kk> black screen
[08:58] <avt3kk> and no preview in that stupid little window
[08:59] <Lynoure> avt3kk: and the driver?
[08:59] <Lynoure> !3d
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Lynoure> avt3kk: if there is something awry with your display card configuration, none of the fancy 3d screensavers will work...
[09:05] <ratsel> ita
[09:05] <ratsel> ita
[09:06] <Lynoure> !it
[09:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:06] <avt3kk> Lyoure my ubuntu has it working perfectly
[09:07] <Lynoure> avt3kk: How did you check that?
[09:07] <avt3kk> how to check
[09:07] <one> plz help: is there a way to make 2 xorg.confs and on kubuntu start i could choose which one ill use ?
[09:07] <Lynoure> avt3kk: yes, how did you check your 3d rendering works perfectly?
[09:07] <avt3kk> I found a tutorial on getting dapper to dance with ati
[09:09] <pillowpants> i have a good sized ntfs partition that i jsut formatted, and i can seem to add anything to it because its read-only
[09:09] <pillowpants> how do i take it off read-only
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> it's ntfs
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> !ntfs-3g
[09:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:10] <pillowpants> i should also mention im in dapper
[09:14] <tim_> hi
[09:14] <Ahmuck> hi tim
[09:15] <tim_> I thought sabayon was great until i finally broke down and installed kubuntu
[09:15] <gustavo> :(
[09:15] <tim_> Now im downloading the dvd. what all is on it
[09:17] <tim_> i mean what is different from the cd that i downloaded
[09:17] <one__> lz help: is there a way to make 2 xorg.confs and on kubuntu start i could choose which one ill use ?
[09:18] <tim_> hello?
[09:18] <gustavo> one__: start as "single-user mode" ;P
[09:18] <gustavo> stupid way, but thats the only way i know hehe
[09:20] <towlieban> how do i verify what version of kde i am using after logging in
[09:21] <one__> gustavo: hmm ? explain plz ;-P
[09:21] <Jucato> towlieban: in any KDE app, Help -> About KDE or right-click on the panel -> Help -> About KDE
[09:22] <towlieban> ok
[09:22] <towlieban> how can i restart X without rebooting ?
[09:22] <one__> gustavo: i need one xorg.conf with twinview option and one without and i wanna select with one to load on systemstart
[09:22] <avt3kk> goodnight :(
[09:22] <avt3kk> im going to dream of answer lol
[09:23] <Jucato> towlieban: logout, then press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:23] <elitrou> i have some problem with JRE, it is unrecognized, although i have installed it and reinstalled it already. Any ideas?
[09:24] <logixoul> hi
[09:24] <logixoul> any nice app for creating music?
[09:25] <diego> ardour
[09:25] <logixoul> Thanks
[09:25] <lydia> im trying to share a printer from a kubuntu machine to windows
[09:26] <lydia> i select export windows driver.. but it says some driver files are missing
[09:26] <lydia> and to go to the adobe website
[09:26] <lydia> im not really sure what im looking for?
[09:37] <gary> hello
[09:39] <gary> hey i have a question... is there a way for windows users from (another) pc, to access an ntfs-3g mounted partition from my dual-booted box runnin feisty?
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> samba
[09:44] <gary> really? so rather than //computername/share , the win user would fill in smb://myshare to access the ntfs-3g mounted drive?
[09:51] <gary> well thx for your help, i'll keep looking into it
[10:02] <gary_> heh, i take it i should've used a different name that isn't as prevalent
[10:05] <Jucato> :D
[10:05] <Gary> sorry gary_ :p
[10:06] <Jucato> gary_: just your luck that someone beat you to registering that nick :D
[10:11] <theory_> Any Konversation chat client users in here?
[10:13] <theory_> ah question.
[10:13] <theory_> I have a problem with using /onotice
[10:13] <theory_> It doesn't display what I type on the screen.
[10:13] <theory_> are you famaliar with this?
[10:13] <Jucato> hm.. nope sorry
[10:13] <theory_> I type it and its as if nothing happens.
[10:13] <theory_> heh
[10:13] <Jucato> you can probably ask in #konversation
[10:14] <theory_> ok
[10:14] <theory_> geez, there is a channel for everything ;P
[10:15] <Jucato> almost :)
[10:25] <gary_> i'm lookin at my /etc/fstab ... is it normal to have ntfs-config automount (all) my ntfs partitions in my dual-boot rig?
[10:26] <gary_> i didn't even get a chance or option to check which ones to mount really.
[10:28] <gary_> on the bright side, i've experienced no problems reading/writing in those partitions.   From other people's screenshots though, using ntfs-config, i should've been able to check off which ones get mounted
[10:29] <hassan2a> who played enemy territory ?
[10:31] <gary_> that a game?
[10:36] <RivaeAerya> Does anybody know a good notetaking program for KDE? (Basket has aborted development)
[10:40] <Jucato> basket hasn't aborted development just yet. they got some new volunteers to work on it. the mailing list is quite active: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=basket-devel
[10:52] <kaminix> Is it possible to do a riskfree install of KDE 4? Having it run side-by-side with KDE 3, making me choose at login session?
[10:53] <pag> kaminix, yup - instructions are in the topic ;)
[10:54] <kaminix> It won't kill my install then?
[10:54] <kaminix> Will it automatically update with Beta 3, RC 1, RC 2 and final?
[10:54] <Jucato> won't kill: yes. will it automatically update: no
[10:55] <kaminix> sudo aptitude upgrade won't update it? Why not?
[10:55] <pasnox> hi there since i'm on gusty ( it does some sometimes with feisty ) when i let my computer on in night, in the morning all usb device are unusable, and internet connectino is broke ( using usb wifi key ) and computer become very irresponsive
[10:55] <pasnox> i need reboot to let it work fine
[10:56] <pag> !gutsy | pasnox
[10:56] <ubotu> pasnox: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <pasnox> and when rebooting because if this probleme many time it freeze
[10:56] <pasnox> ubotu: yes, sorry, but as i say, it was doing same with feisty
[10:56] <pasnox> pag: last phrase for u
[10:57] <jussi01> !bot
[10:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <Jucato> kaminix: because the packages for KDE 4 are made only when there are new releases (beta 3, 4, rc, stable, etc) and they are usually placed in kubuntu.org repositories. the location and name of the packages may or may not be the same. there is no assurance that you can simply upgrade from one to the other
[11:01] <kaminix> Thanks Jucato. :) Also, will these commands be enough to enable me to start a session in KDE 4? cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop && vim /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde (add the four exportlines on top, but isn't this a binary?)
[11:01] <Jucato> just follow the directions in the web page pointed to in the topic and they will be enough
[11:02] <Jucato> it's not binary. it's an executable script
[11:03] <kaminix> Jucato: I was following the instructions when writing those commands. ^^
[11:16] <yeo> is there a command option for ktorrent and konversation to start minimized to the tray?
[11:18] <markus__> how can i reconfigure the driver of my graphic card?
[11:20] <markus__> Wie kann ich den Treiber meiner GraKa neu konfigurieren?
[11:20] <Jucato> !de | markus__
[11:20] <ubotu> markus__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:20] <Jucato> yeo: afaik if you leave KTorrent running in the system tray when you logout, it will restart minimized
[11:22] <markus__> ubotu: wie kann ich zu diesen Kanaelen wechseln?
[11:22] <dorje>     * /msg dorje register  dorjecito@hotmail.com
[11:22] <linopil> !de
[11:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:22] <Jucato> !register | dorje
[11:22] <ubotu> dorje: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:31] <jussi01> hmmm, could someone help me backup my theme?
[11:31] <Jucato> ??
[11:32] <jussi01> Jucato: I created a theme (colours), how do I back it up as I need to reinstall....
[11:32] <kaminix> Hmm... when running plasma I see two big black blobs saying "This object could not be created" in the menubar.
[11:32] <Jucato> jussi01: Export Color Scheme
[11:32] <Jucato> kaminix: that's normal in the beta2 kubuntu packages
[11:32] <jussi01> Jucato: ahh.. (duh) :)
[11:32] <Jucato> those are placeholders for plasmoids that aren't packaged with beta2
[11:33] <kaminix> How do I get my Kmenu?
[11:33] <Jucato> there isn't one
[11:33] <kaminix> Well that's useful.
[11:33] <emilsedgh> kaminix: no kmenu for kde4 :), in Beta3 (which will be tagged tomorrow and will be release in 8 days) there's a Kicker Port for Plasma
[11:34] <Jucato> (beta2)
[11:34] <kaminix> Then what exactly can I do in Beta 2? :p
[11:34] <Jucato> if you're not a developer, nothing really
[11:34] <Jucato> you can start apps (Alt+F2)
[11:35] <kaminix> Aww, boring. I'm so dissappointed. :( I thought I'd see an almost fully functional KDE4, except packed with bugs. :p
[11:36] <emilsedgh> kaminix: thats beta, dont be dissapointed, this is why its named Beta...
[11:36] <kaminix> emilsedgh: Isn't beta when it's just bugfixing left?
[11:36] <emilsedgh> kaminix: hmmm
[11:36] <Jucato> you could have also tried reading some reviews or release notes on what works and what doesn't (try Google?)
[11:37] <Jucato> kaminix: it's beta **2**... there are stages
[11:37] <kaminix> Jucato: Nope, just seen pictures. ^^
[11:37] <Jucato> so it's not one big beta only. and it's not set in stone
[11:37] <emilsedgh> kaminix: look, you cannot see the plasma, which isnt in Beta mode yet
[11:37] <kaminix> It's not? :o
[11:37] <kaminix> Thought all except Koffice was.
[11:38] <emilsedgh> kaminix: Plasma is the only part of the KDE which is not yet in beta mode and features are allowed for it
[11:38] <emilsedgh> kaminix: also, what you see in those packages is not the real plasma...
[11:38] <kaminix> Ohhhh.... I see.... :)
[11:38] <Jucato> they may be real plasma. but they were not packaged for Kubuntu
[11:39] <Jucato> because they are not part of the beta release
[11:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: but they will for Beta3 :)
[11:39] <kaminix> It's quite speedy. But that might be because it's practically not running anything atm. :p
[11:39] <Jucato> not all though
 you can start apps (Alt+F2)
[11:39] <kaminix> I know. I did start Konversation? ^^
[11:39] <Jucato> base apps are available: dolphin, konsole, kwrite, konqueror, ksysguard
[11:40] <Jucato> oh yes, that's definitely a KDE 4 app.... not
[11:40] <kaminix> I know it's not...
[11:40] <emilsedgh> kaminix: try applications, look how wonderfull is dolphin + nepomuk (run nemomukdaemon, nepomukcoreservices and then dolphin), look at okular, games, kget...
[11:40] <Jucato> emilsedgh: beta2.. no nepomuk
[11:40] <kaminix> How do I know which packages are available?
[11:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: it has
[11:41] <Jucato> emilsedgh: the broken one afaik
[11:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: Beta had it too
[11:41] <Jucato> or did you compile from SVN?
[11:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: no it works on dolphin
[11:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: no, i did have Beta2 packages
[11:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: just you have to run services
[11:41] <kaminix> btw, isn't RC 1 due to today? But they still haven't released Beta 3?
[11:42] <Jucato> kaminix: what are you talking about?
[11:42] <exitus> huhu
[11:42] <emilsedgh> kaminix: RC? no, release chedule is being changed :)
[11:42] <emilsedgh> schedule*
[11:42] <kaminix> But hasn't been changed yet?
[11:42] <kaminix> So no KDE4 for christmas? :(
[11:42] <Jucato> ...
[11:42] <emilsedgh> kaminix: will be come in december :)
[11:43] <Jucato> 1) RC isn't due today. 2) Beta 3 is to be *tagged* next week
[11:43] <Jucato> (tag and release don't happen on the same day)
[11:43] <emilsedgh> Jucato: will be tagged tomorrow?
[11:43] <Jucato> hm. let me recheck
[11:43] <emilsedgh> me too :D
[11:43] <kaminix> When is RC 1 due for? The RC will be quite useable, right?
[11:43] <Jucato> Wednesday next week is Beta 3 tag
[11:44] <Jucato> kaminix: yes. because it's the "Release Candidate"
[11:44] <jussi01> Jucato: where exactly is this Export Colour Scheme?
[11:44] <kaminix> Hrm. Konqueror crashed on startup. :(
[11:44] <Jucato> jussi01: sorry wrong term. Save Scheme..
[11:44] <emilsedgh> kaminix: 4.0 Beta 2?
[11:44] <Jucato> System Settings -> Appearance -> Colours
[11:45] <kaminix> emilsedgh: Yeah...
[11:45] <emilsedgh> kaminix: did you really except that konqueror works without crashing?
[11:45] <jussi01> Jucato: yeah, im there, its saved - but where in the file system is it?
[11:45] <cihan253> trke bilen varm ?
[11:46] <Jucato> jussi01: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay I think
[11:46] <Jucato> !tk
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <Jucato> !tr
[11:46] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:46] <Jucato> !tr | cihan253
[11:46] <ubotu> cihan253: please see above
[11:46] <cihan253> so sorry
[11:46] <emilsedgh> wow, how smarty is this bot!
[11:46] <kaminix> emilsedgh: I expected to see the window before crash anyway :p
[11:47] <emilsedgh> kaminix: well, here i even browsed the web with konqueror, but yeah, thats very unstable atm
[11:47] <kaminix> Okay. :)
[11:47] <kaminix> I don't have okular. :o
[11:48] <Rudd-O> help guys!
[11:48] <Rudd-O> plese help!
[11:48] <emilsedgh> kaminix: should be in kde4graphics package
[11:48] <Rudd-O> I am having SERIOUS trouble booting ths system
[11:48] <emilsedgh> Rudd-O: ask!
[11:48] <jussi01> !ask | Rudd-O
[11:48] <ubotu> Rudd-O: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:48] <Rudd-O> my root FS is on an LVM volume /dev/vg0/root, backed by two MD RAID 1 arrays
[11:49] <Rudd-O> I have rebuilt the initramfs and the initramfs succeeds at starting the MD arrays
[11:49] <Rudd-O> but it never starts the LVM volumes!
[11:49] <andreas25> hello from greece
[11:49] <cihan253> I have a logitech G15 keyboard. it has buttons that makes volume + or - but I need to configure it what should I do ? I think I have to change a .conf file but dont know which file
[11:49] <Rudd-O> hence, the root file system never appears, and its stuck there waiting for the root fs to appear
[11:49] <Rudd-O> cihan253: look for the key shortcuts module in the kcontrol control center
[11:49] <Rudd-O> so, what do I do_
[11:49] <Rudd-O> oh
[11:49] <Rudd-O> I should mention
[11:49] <Rudd-O> I am using gutsy beta
[11:49] <Rudd-O> just ugpraded
[11:50] <andreas25> im new in linux and i have install kubuntu 7.04  i have download mozilla firefox last version but i cant install it! how can install it???
[11:50] <Rudd-O> the setup worked fine in feisty
[11:50] <kaminix> What's nepomuk anyway?
[11:50] <Rudd-O> andreas25: use the firefox latest version from the Adept package manager instead
[11:50] <emilsedgh> kaminix: a new technology for KDE4: Semantic Desktop
[11:50] <Rudd-O> anyone with a little bit of experience in initramfs _
[11:50] <Rudd-O> ?
[11:50] <jussi01> !gutsy | Rudd-O
[11:50] <ubotu> Rudd-O: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:50] <Rudd-O> thanks
[11:50] <andreas25> only from adept? if i want to install a software who adept dont have it?
[11:51] <kaminix> emilsedgh: What's a Semantic Desktop?
[11:51] <alejandro> what is the problem in this line in the rc.local ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.1 it doesnt works
[11:51] <emilsedgh> kaminix: at the current state, you could rate and comment and tag your files, AmaroK's Metainformation are not saved just-for-AmaroK, more will come...
[11:52] <kaminix> Well that sounds cool. :)
[11:52] <kaminix> Maybe Microsoft will steal it for Vista+1 (A)
[11:52] <emilsedgh> kaminix: the Idea is: you recieve an email, you save the attachment somewhere, after a while you could see that 'This file is sent by an attachment from Your_Friends_Name at DATE'
[11:53] <emilsedgh> kaminix: i think everyone in this community should learn to do not care about microsoft :)
[11:53] <kaminix> And where will this metainfo be saved? Will it still be there if I re-install?
[11:53] <Rudd-O> #ubuntu+1 is MUTE
[11:54] <Rudd-O> can someone help me here instead_
[11:54] <Rudd-O> ?
[11:54] <Rudd-O> I know this is not a newb question, but I have run out of options
[11:54] <andreas25> can i run squid on kubuntu?
[11:54] <emilsedgh> kaminix: dunno exaclty, but yeah there were some discussions about these things
[11:54] <jussi01> !patience
[11:54] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:54] <kaminix> emilsedgh: Yeah. :p Just thought of how much MS stole from Linux when making Vista. :p Not that we're not doing the same, a lot of the KDE4 appearance is very Vista-like. :)
[11:54] <Rudd-O> ok, the web has given me an option
[11:55] <emilsedgh> andreas25: youre free, you can do everything :P
[11:55] <andreas25> :P
[11:55] <andreas25> ;)
[11:55] <emilsedgh> kaminix: look, good ideas are good...i dont think its a bad thing to use others 'Good' ideas, or they use our good ideas
[11:55] <andreas25> its not very easy but i believe in a few days i dont want to go back in ms os
[11:56] <andreas25> :P
[11:56] <emilsedgh> andreas25: i think you should install squid easily from adept manager
[11:56] <kaminix> emilsedgh: Agreed. :) The prestige is in comming up with it first or not taking to long to put the good ideas to use. :)
[11:57] <andreas25> and i ask u : only from adept i can install progz? if i want to install a program who adept dont have it?
[11:57] <alejandro> what is the problem in this line in the rc.local
[11:57] <alejandro> ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.1 it doesnt works
[11:58] <emilsedgh> andreas25: you could 1)download .deb packages from outside repositories (if someone did) 2)add a new repository that includes that software 3)compile that from the source
[11:58] <alejandro> all oter commands
[11:58] <alejandro> works
[11:59] <andreas25> ok thanks u emilsedgh :)
[12:00] <kaminix> How do I log out from KDE4?
[12:01] <andreas25> another one quenstion: i have english and greek languange on keyb layout how can i switch netween languanges ?
[12:01] <exitus> hmm kann hier auch wer deutsch :) ? mein english is nicht so gut
[12:02] <pag> !de | exitus
[12:02] <ubotu> exitus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:02] <emilsedgh> !de | exitus
[12:02] <exitus> hx
[12:02] <exitus> thx
[12:02] <emilsedgh> andreas25: click on the flag
[12:02] <emilsedgh> andreas25: or define a shortcut key
[12:03] <andreas25> only with this one! i find this one  can i switch betw lang with a keyb shortcut shcu as alt+shift?
[12:03] <emilsedgh> andreas25: you can
[12:03] <andreas25> from where i can configure it?
[12:04] <andreas25> or what is the default keyb shortcut?
[12:04] <emilsedgh> systemSettings->Keyboard and Mouse->Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:04] <emilsedgh> the last item :)
[12:05] <hassan2a> !ping
[12:05] <ubotu> pong
[12:05] <emilsedgh> andreas25: oh 1 thing
[12:05] <emilsedgh> andreas25: KDE shortcuts cannot be alt+shift
[12:05] <emilsedgh> andreas25: but there is an special way for this one
[12:06] <andreas25> i dont care if is this one i want only change lang from keyb
[12:06] <emilsedgh> andreas25: go to systemSettings->Regiona and Language->Keyboard Layout->Xkb options, enable it and check ;Alt+shift' changes group
[12:08] <cihan253> I am trying to add a script on amarok. I am using this way : tools + add script but it shows me a problem : libvisual is not installed . I got it and installed but the same problem again.
[12:09] <yeo_> cihan253, i get that error when trying to look at more visualisations in the menu
[12:09] <cihan253> yeo_:  so ? do you know how to fix it?
[12:11] <Jucato> yeo_: you tried installing libvisual-0.4-plugins?
[12:11] <mike1o> how do I use the mplayer engine for kaffeine?
[12:11] <mike1o> instead of xine?
[12:12] <Jucato> mike1o: Settings menu. you need to have mplayer installed of course... but if you do, you might want to just use kmplayer directly
[12:13] <Jucato> the "funny" thing about kaffeine using the mplayer engine is that it really doesn't use it directly. it uses the embedded kmplayer that uses mplayer... so you have: Kaffeine -> Embedded KMPlayer -> MPlayer
[12:14] <ardchoille> Sounds like the long way around to me
[12:14] <Jucato> it is :)
[12:14] <yeo_> Jucato, ill check now
[12:15] <yeo_> nope didnt have that installed
[12:15] <Jucato> try instaling it (as the popup said when trying to run visualizations)
[12:16] <yeo_> ahh it worked :)
[12:16] <mike1o> Jucato, actually I need to use kaffeine 'cause im watching dvb
[12:17] <yeo_> Jucato, DVB is digital video broadcasting (digital tv)
[12:18] <Jucato> hm.. weird.. I can no longer see mplayers as a choice..
[12:20] <Jucato> either they removed (k)mplayer support from kaffeine.. or I'm missing something
[12:22] <yeo_> ive mounted my fat32 partitions but i can only access them as root. does anyone know what i put into the fstab to make them readable by me
[12:23] <Jucato> !fat32
[12:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: I see "Embedded MPlayer for KDE (kmplayer_part)" in the video section of the file associations.
[12:24] <Jucato> ardchoille: I meant in kaffeine...
[12:24] <ardchoille> For several of the file types in Feisty
[12:24] <ardchoille> Oh, ok
[12:25] <Jucato> before, (pre-gutsy?), you can select at least 2 player engines in Kaffeine -> Settings -> Player Engine
[12:25] <Jucato> Xine and Embedded MPlayer for KDE (kmplayer). now it only shows Kaffeine-Xine
[12:25] <ardchoille> Jucato: I see both xine and mplayer in mine
[12:26] <Jucato> hence, "pre-gutsy"...
[12:26] <ardchoille> Oh
[12:26] <ardchoille> Gutsy only has xine?
[12:26] <Jucato> over here, it does
[12:27] <ardchoille> Jucato: Do you happen to know if kaffeine can do closed captions? Or does it only support subtitles? Xine and mplayer support both subs and cc's.
[12:28] <Jucato> I don't know.. haven't had the need to watch a video with separate subs :)
[12:29] <Jucato> but they're ok
[12:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ah!
[12:29] <Jucato> definitely better than kplayer's
[12:29] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I asked about removing them in kde-apps, but didnt get any reply
[12:30] <Jucato> they're actually very useful when viewing embedded videos
[12:30] <Jucato> I think that's where the rationale of having those kinds of buttons come from
[12:30] <emilsedgh> Jucato: they should be normal kde widgets
[12:30] <yeo_> Jucato, do y ou know how i would make the system read fstab without restarting?
[12:30] <Jucato> but they would be too big for embedded viewing.
[12:31] <Jucato> yeo_: just unmount and remount the specific drive
[12:31] <Jucato> specific entry in fstab
[12:31] <yeo_> it only lets me mount as root tho
[12:32] <emilsedgh> Jucato: kaffeine has such toolbar, thats nice :) (in fullscreen mode)
[12:33] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yeah but notice how much space it takes up?  imagine that in a small embedded video rectangle
[12:34] <Jucato> so while I understand the reason for that ugly bar in kmplayer... it's still ugly :P
[12:34] <Jucato> but I use it nonetheless :D
[12:35] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i think thats better than kmplayers, dont insist! :D
[12:35] <Jucato> hehe
[12:36] <Jucato> different use cases :)
[12:36] <tue> Hello all. I have a very basic question. I have a video file stored in MJPG (played by ffmpeg video decoder using mplayer), and i want to store it in plain please-fill-my-harddrive avi format. What program can i use for that?
[12:36] <emilsedgh> tue: ffmpeg :)
[12:37] <emilsedgh> tue: ffmpeg -i input.mpeg output.avi :)
[12:37] <emilsedgh> i think this should work
[12:37] <tue> emilsedgh: cool. only its allready called input.mpeg :-)
[12:37] <Jucato> (why does gutsy have non-working vmware & vbox, just when I need them!)
[12:37] <tue> emilsedgh: its because i need to use the video file in matlab under linux, and it only supports plain avi.
[12:37] <emilsedgh> haha
[12:38] <uga> Jucato: I installed the binary virtual box, and worked like charm
[12:38] <emilsedgh> Jucato: because YOU need them ;)
[12:39] <Jucato> uga: I know. but I'd prefer an official FOSS solution... but if I lose my mind later, I'll install the binary anyway..
[12:39] <Jucato> hmph..
[12:39] <arvin2212> hello guys
[12:39] <arvin2212> new kubuntu user here
[12:39] <arvin2212> transfered from ubuntu
[12:39] <arvin2212> haha
[12:39] <Jucato> !hi | arvin2212
[12:39] <ubotu> arvin2212: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:39] <arvin2212> hello
[12:39] <arvin2212> :)
[12:40] <arvin2212> guys just wanted to ask
[12:40] <arvin2212> i;ve set up my connection
[12:40] <arvin2212> using an usb adsl modem
[12:40] <arvin2212> all seems good
[12:40] <uga> Jucato: there's only two reasons to run vbox/vmware mostly. 64 bit or USB access, since neither are done by wine. And vbox foss won't do USB afaik?
[12:40] <Jucato> uga: and I hope the feisty binary works on gutsy...
[12:40] <arvin2212> but only prob......i cant browse any websites? it says page not found
[12:40] <arvin2212> but  i can run and download updates wit adept wit no prob
[12:40] <arvin2212> :D
[12:41] <Jucato> uga: I have other reasons to use vbox right now. and from the configuration box earlier (virtualbox-ose) I saw some USB options.
[12:41] <emilsedgh> arvin2212: hm, youre using konqueror?
[12:41] <arvin2212> yesemilsedgh
[12:41] <arvin2212> yes emilsedgh*
[12:41] <Jucato> uga: ok my bad, no USB
[12:41] <uga> heh, I knew ;)
[12:41] <Jucato> er.. download first  of course
[12:42] <arvin2212> An error occurred while loading http://www,yahoo.com:
[12:42] <arvin2212> Could not connect to host http://www,yahoo.com/.
[12:42] <arvin2212> i get that error on knoqueror
[12:42] <arvin2212> konqueror*
[12:42] <uga> Jucato: I only used vmware/vbox so far because wine didn't support devices other than usbfs mount
[12:42] <emilsedgh> arvin2212: i think i did have this problem once, i dunno how thats fixed, maybe i quit the konqueror or restarted X, did you try them?
[12:42] <uga> well, and now trying to setup a proper wine to run on this new 64bit box
[12:42] <Jucato> uga: I need it to run other distros/os for testing/playing/writing
[12:42] <arvin2212> i'll try to restart it as soon as i finish downloading the updates
[12:43] <arvin2212> anyways emilsedgh thanks for giving me a possible solution
[12:43] <arvin2212> xD
[12:43] <uga> Jucato: 64bit works fine. All proprietary apps I used work just fine out of the box
[12:43] <uga> Jucato: all, except wine =)
[12:43] <emilsedgh> arvin2212: please tell me if that works, may happend to others ;)
[12:43] <arvin2212> ok i will
[12:43] <arvin2212> :D
[12:44] <arvin2212> gonna have my bath now so i'll post any updates later
[12:45] <emilsedgh> Jucato: did you try gnash on gutsy? it really sucks on feisty...and i dont like to have nonfree :(
[12:45] <emilsedgh> arvin2212: thanks :)
[12:45] <Jucato> emilsedgh: nope. I have flash. one of the few non-free stuff I'm willing to have :)
[01:06] <tarek> wanted to know how to install my nvidia graphic card
[01:07] <arvin2212> wants to know how to install my ATi x550 saphire graphic card
[01:07] <SlimeyPete> tarek: install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:07] <SlimeyPete> tarek: or else install he restricted manager and use that
[01:07] <tarek> with apt-get install?
[01:07] <arvin2212> wants to know how to install my ATi x550 saphire graphic card
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> yeah. You'll need to add the universe/multiverse repos first though.
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> tarek: restricted manager is the easiest way,btw, if you can currently get into X
[01:08] <rstanca> hey guys, what's the sip client for kde, the equivalent for ekiga?
[01:10] <blakey> Hey, is anyone around?
[01:10] <arvin2212> yes
[01:10] <arvin2212> :D
[01:10] <emilsedgh> !hi | blakey
[01:10] <ubotu> blakey: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:10] <abominius> !mp3
[01:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <arvin2212_> emilsedgh, u have any idea for me to install my ati driver?
[01:11] <arvin2212_> :D
[01:11] <arvin2212_> planning to run compiz or beryl
[01:11] <emilsedgh> arvin2212_: feisty?
[01:11] <arvin2212_> im not sure if my kubuntu is feisty..
[01:11] <arvin2212_> :D
[01:12] <arvin2212_> cause i downloaded it using wubi
[01:12] <tarek> where do i get to change the multiverse stuff i only use apt-get install
[01:12] <blakey> righto, im after some help, i've just reinstalled kubuntu (due to me breaking X), and all the things in add remove programs are greyed out, and, apt-get no worky, tried looking around google, but couldnt find anything...
[01:12] <emilsedgh> arvin2212_: i suggest you to run Gutsy, its Beta, but stable, you could do that easily in gutsy
[01:12] <arvin2212_> hmm...allriight .. will try that once my updates are done installing..
[01:12] <emilsedgh> blakey: whats the problem with apt-get?
[01:13] <pag> blakey, does " sudo apt-get update " give any errors?
[01:13] <blakey> pag, nope, just says 0 updated etc
[01:14] <blakey> emilsedgh: it just says that whatever package is obsolete or non existant
[01:14] <denis__> hallo
[01:14] <emilsedgh> blakey: could you please copy the output?
[01:14] <blakey> yep
[01:15] <denis__> i have installed kubuntu first yesterday
[01:15] <denis__> now my monitorresolusion is 800* 600
[01:15] <denis__> how can i change it to 1024*765 ?
[01:15] <blakey> emilsedgh: want a pm of the output? or should i just paste here?
[01:16] <pag> !fixres | denis__
[01:16] <ubotu> denis__: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:16] <pag> !pastebin | blakey
[01:16] <SlimeyPete> !pastebin
[01:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <emilsedgh> !paste | blakey
[01:16] <ubotu> blakey: please see above
[01:16] <tarek> how can i add multiverse?
[01:16] <blakey> ahh yes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39133/
[01:17] <pag> !multiverse | tarek
[01:17] <ubotu> tarek: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:18] <ardchoille> Firefox is in main isn't it?
[01:18] <pag> blakey, could you try: " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox "
[01:18] <pag> ardchoille, iirc yes
[01:18] <denis__> bash: sudo/etc/init.d/?dmrestart: No such file or directory
[01:18] <blakey> tried apt-get update, it doesnt update anything
[01:18] <pag> blakey, update isn't the same as upgrade..
[01:18] <blakey> oops, sorry, misread it
[01:18] <ardchoille> denis__: you have to restart the specific dm you have. Are you using kde or gdm?
[01:19] <denis__> kde
[01:19] <blakey> looks like update is doing lots of stuff
[01:19] <ardchoille> denis__: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:19] <ardchoille> Mind the spaces
[01:19] <denis__> it's the first time i have installed a linux distribution
[01:19] <denis__> thx
[01:19] <ardchoille> yw
[01:19] <blakey> works now :)
[01:19] <blakey> ty pag, emilsedgh
[01:20] <pag> blakey, np :)
[01:20] <emilsedgh> blakey: np, too
[01:21] <blakey> righto, im off out, ttyl
[01:29] <Denis89> hmm
[01:29] <Denis89> i copied it to the terminal
[01:29] <Denis89> and than i had a black screen with a white line on top
[01:29] <Denis89> and now i can't change the resolution :(
[01:31] <CarlosOSL> Hi :)
[01:32] <Denis89> could anyone help me??
[01:32] <jon__> !mp3
[01:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:32] <waylandbill> Denis89: the resolution is set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <waylandbill> !resolution
[01:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:33] <Denis89> Permission denied
[01:33] <waylandbill> !sudo
[01:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:33] <arvin2212_> anyone have any idea for me to install compiz or beryl for kubuntu?
[01:34] <pag> !beryl | arvin2212_
[01:34] <ubotu> arvin2212_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:35] <arvin2212_> thanks pag and ubotu
[01:36] <ardchoille> !thanks | arvin2212_
[01:36] <ubotu> arvin2212_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:36] <arvin2212_> does an ati X550 saphire graphic card support accelerated openGL?
[01:37] <Denis89> !resolutions
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <Denis89> !resolution
[01:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:40] <Denis89> how can i join irc servers which are not signed as secured
[01:40] <Denis89> i can't join a server which i could join @ windows
[01:40] <deviance|away> My speakers were working fine untill i tried to play some video at the same time as amarok was playing, now the sound has gone really weak
[01:41] <deviance|away> any odeas
[01:41] <deviance|away> ideas*
[01:41] <pag> deviance|away, check in kmix, that all the mixers are at maximum
[01:42] <pag> deviance|away, well, maybe not all, but at least Master and PCM
[01:42] <deviance|away> Aha, that seemed to work
[01:42] <Denis89> how can i install programms?
[01:42] <deviance|away> So playing the video must have turned it down
[01:42] <deviance|away> Denis89: Adpet?
[01:42] <deviance|away> Thanks pag
[01:42] <Denis89> when i search firefox with adept
[01:43] <pag> Denis89, np :)
[01:43] <Denis89> it shows me firefox
[01:43] <Denis89> but i can't choose it and install it
[01:43] <Denis89> why?
[01:43] <deviance|away> CLick the down arrow
[01:43] <deviance|away> or right click
[01:43] <deviance|away> and there should be an install optiomn
[01:43] <pag> Denis89, open konsole, and type " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox "
[01:44] <Denis89> ok
[01:44] <Denis89> but i won't type it everytime when i want to install a program^
[01:45] <Denis89> when i try it whith adept
[01:45] <pag> Denis89, installations usually work through Adept too, but personally I dislike that prog.
[01:45] <Denis89> it's gray
[01:45] <Denis89> and i can't rightclick it
[01:45] <deviance|away> Hmm
[01:45] <deviance|away> It could be a locked database
[01:45] <pag> Denis89, probably because your sources aren't updatet yet - that command should fix it
[01:45] <Denis89> how can i update it?
[01:45] <deviance|away> First button on the tool bar
[01:46] <Denis89> i have downloaded the system yesterday
[01:46] <deviance|away> Fetch update
[01:46] <Denis89> so i thought it's the latest version^
[01:46] <pag> deviance|away, " sudo apt-get update " or the one deviance|away tells yo :)
[01:46] <deviance|away> pags way is easier unless you hate non-gui
[01:46] <Denis89> tool bar?
[01:47] <Denis89> which tool bar?
[01:47] <Denis89> i have kde
[01:47] <pag> Denis89, you're running Adept Manager, right?
[01:48] <Denis89> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:48] <deviance|away> You cant run command line while adept is running
[01:48] <Denis89> oh xD
[01:48] <Denis89> sry^^
[01:48] <deviance|away> Wow, amarok just quit, no warning, no error dialogue, nothing.
[01:49] <deviance|away> Is amarok 2 beta/alpha avalible?
[01:49] <waylandbill> Denis89: the release CD isn't made everyday, so it can be out of date.
[01:49] <triex> only for kde 4, i think
[01:50] <deviance|away> Ah okay
[01:53] <Denis89> how can i join an unsecured irc server?
[01:53] <HanzZ> hi... how can i get current position in stream?
[01:53] <HanzZ> current time
[01:54] <HanzZ> oh :) maybe xine_get_pos_length is what i need :)
[01:54] <deviance|away> gxine is a good media player for web steams
[01:55] <waylandbill> Denis89: with an irc client?
[01:55] <HanzZ> sorry :D omg :) it's bad channel :)
[01:55] <Denis89> yes
[01:56] <Denis89> whith the first installed irc client on kubuntu^^
[01:56] <Denis89> when i try to join an irc server
[01:56] <Denis89> there comes a message
[01:56] <Denis89> unable to join because server isn't secured
[01:56] <Denis89> or something like  that in german
[01:57] <uga> Denis89: that's possibly client dependant. And... do you know "." and "," exist to join sentences?
[01:57] <feierfox> hej!
[01:57] <feierfox> which CD-Ripper do you recomment in kubuntu?
[01:57] <feierfox> K3B?
[01:57] <waylandbill> Denis89: did you maybe try to give a password when one wasn't required? Is the client you are using Konqueror?
[01:58] <Denis89> yes i use konqueror.
[01:58] <uga> waylandbill: konqueror for irc???
[01:58] <Denis89> no not konqueror for irc
[01:58] <Denis89> for internet.
[01:58] <Denis89> to click the link of the irc channel.
[01:58] <feierfox> KAudiocreator? K3b?
[01:59] <uga> feierfox: what do you want to do. rip music?
[01:59] <waylandbill> I meant Konversation.
[01:59] <uga> waylandbill: good morning ;))
[01:59] <feierfox> yes
[01:59] <feierfox> in the best way
[01:59] <waylandbill> Denis89: Konversation, sorry.
[01:59] <feierfox> using LAME command line
[01:59] <waylandbill> uga: morning.
[01:59] <feierfox> and it should be safe
[01:59] <Denis89> yes i use konversation.
[02:00] <feierfox> EAC doenst work in my wine :(
[02:00] <uga> feierfox: heh, want one nice trick? just go to media:/ in konqueror, and enter into the audio CD
[02:00] <waylandbill> Denis89: what server are you trying to connect to?
[02:00] <uga> feierfox: you'll see some virtual folders showing oggs, mp3...
[02:00] <uga> just copy and paste to the folder you want them
[02:01] <Denis89> irc://flp-irc.bit-torrent.to
[02:01] <feierfox> i don't want it easy, i'm looking for the best way
[02:01] <feierfox> need quality
[02:01] <cihan253> hello I cant use my tv card with kubuntu can u help me?
[02:01] <uga> feierfox: kaudiocreator is the name, iirc
[02:01] <waylandbill> assuming the backend programs are available to do the ripping.
[02:01] <uga> it's a lame frontend
[02:01] <uga> and oggenc and... you know
[02:02] <uga> feierfox: yes, that's the one. Kaudiocreator
[02:02] <feierfox> hmmm...
[02:02] <uga> you have soundKonverter too, but I don't know how well it performs for ripping
[02:02] <uga> never used it
[02:03] <waylandbill> Denis89: I just did Quick Connect and entered 'flp-irc.bit-torrent.to' as the server and got right in.
[02:03] <uga> I don't see quality configuration options in soundkonverter... not good
[02:03] <Denis89> oO
[02:03] <Denis89> i can't . :(
[02:03] <waylandbill> Denis89: File, Quick Connect.
[02:04] <Denis89> aah thx. xD
[02:04] <Denis89> now it works
[02:04] <waylandbill> Denis89: and I didn't select to use ssl.
[02:04] <JimmyDee> guten abend mein herrs
[02:04] <RivaeAerya> Guys, i'm looking for a colorscheme that is easier on the eyes than black, but still compatible with white.
[02:04] <Denis89> it works thx waylandbill
[02:04] <uga> feierfox: soundkonverter allows for quality selection, but I can't see customiseable options for lame especifically... etc.
[02:04] <JimmyDee> white looks nice on fuchia
[02:05] <JimmyDee> or tope
[02:05] <waylandbill> RivaeAerya: high contrast white. white is pretty compatible with white. ;-)
[02:05] <feierfox> kaudiocreator contains wrong lame settings
[02:05] <feierfox> :O
[02:05] <JimmyDee> unless its white on white, then its bad woogies
[02:05] <waylandbill> feierfox: why not use lame directly in a terminal?
[02:05] <RivaeAerya> waylandbill: well.. no, it burns my eyes
[02:06] <feierfox> because, first i have to rip the CD
[02:06] <JimmyDee> try white on cyan rivae
[02:06] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: how to set that?
[02:06] <waylandbill> lower the contrast on the monitor then :)   I agree though... white is too bright.
[02:06] <achilles> hey there guys
[02:06] <JimmyDee> ok lets get back where I came in, what app are we messin with colours in?
[02:06] <achilles> I need a little help, can anyone tell me where to get a MAC style application launcher panel for Kubuntu
[02:07] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: KDE in general
[02:07] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: so, the whole desktop. All the apps
[02:07] <achilles> whihc animate as well, lik bounce and bloat when moved over by mouse
[02:07] <JimmyDee> themes then
[02:07] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: The "color schemes" part
[02:08] <JimmyDee> ok uno momento
[02:08] <achilles> anybody which knows about the application
[02:08] <JimmyDee> on a gnome box, go figure...gimme a min
[02:08] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: ok
[02:09] <JimmyDee> booting my kubuntu box
[02:09] <RivaeAerya> JimmyDee: k :)
[02:10] <achilles> RivaeAerya: you have any idea baout
[02:10] <achilles> mac style application launcher for Kubuntu
[02:10] <RivaeAerya> achilles: baghira launcher
[02:10] <JimmyDee> like a whats up dock?
[02:10] <RivaeAerya> achilles: oh, ksmoothdock
[02:10] <achilles> cool
[02:10] <emilsedgh> achilles: katapult
[02:11] <emilsedgh> achilles: oh, you want Dock!
[02:11] <emilsedgh> achilles: install kooldock or ksmoothdock
[02:11] <achilles> i mean it will sit like a panel and animates when you move your mouse and its not the dock bar it should be application lancher
[02:11] <achilles> no not dock launcher
[02:12] <JimmyDee> kooldock is nice
[02:12] <kalle> Soes Suspend or Hibernate equal the -h (halt) when you shutdown
[02:12] <kalle> Does*
[02:12] <waylandbill> achilles: like kicker you mean?
[02:12] <achilles> yeah
[02:12] <achilles> wait
[02:12] <JimmyDee> my kubuntu box refuses to boot
[02:12] <achilles> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/EYEBLUE?content=65992
[02:12] <achilles> check this its for karamba
[02:13] <achilles> oops sorry
[02:13] <achilles> wrong link
[02:13] <waylandbill> kalle: no. halt doesn't power the system down IIRC.
[02:13] <JimmyDee> aye karamba
[02:13] <achilles> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=14730
[02:13] <ardchoille> achilles: You might like kxdocker. But don't use the one in the repos, it's broken.
[02:14] <achilles> yeah i want achive something like this, instead of having a quick launch, you'll have this panel and whihc animates when you move you mouse over it and launches the application
[02:14] <NovaAesa> hello?
[02:14] <ardchoille> achilles:  http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step8
[02:14] <kalle> Because when i use shutdown -h now I can use Wake On Lan.. But do i use the Power Off in kubuntu i can't
[02:14] <kalle> waylandbill: ^
[02:15] <achilles> lemme see ardchoille , guys i gues you people got my point what i want
[02:15] <achilles> i dont wnat a dock whihc shows my current open windows and applications, rather a launcher
[02:16] <waylandbill> kalle: that's controlled by the bios, not the operating system.
[02:17] <kalle> waylandbill: I know.. but if i open my console now and type shutdown -h i will be able to use WOL... But if i click the Logout > Power Off I can't... So theres a difference between those too :)
[02:18] <otzku> I installed the windows version of firefox with wine so i could watch flash on my 64bit box but how do i run firefox now?
[02:18] <feierfox> KAudioCreator works fine
[02:19] <achilles> thanx ardchoille thats what i wanted
[02:20] <waylandbill> kalle: I don't know. Don't use WOL. I just leave the system on all the time.
[02:20] <kalle> Haha
[02:20] <ardchoille> achilles: I'd post a screenshot but imageshack.us isn't working atm.
[02:21] <arvin2212> guys
[02:21] <uga> ardchoille: the site is up, at least here
[02:21] <arvin2212> what is the room or channel for installing effects to kubuntu
[02:21] <ardchoille> uga: Yeah, it's up, but it gives errors when you try to post a pic
[02:24] <uga> ardchoille: heh, I tried uploading an icon. Now it says unknown host. Dns issues, it seems
[02:24] <ardchoille> uga: Ah, yeah
[02:29] <arvin2212> any1 here haveany experience installing compiz?
[02:29] <ardchoille> arvin2212: If you're just wanting drop shadows, fade ins/outs, and translucency, you can get those without compiz/beryl.
[02:30] <arvin2212> i want those cubelike effects
[02:30] <arvin2212> :D
[02:30] <arvin2212> i've installed compiz
[02:30] <arvin2212> and have the manager at my system
[02:30] <arvin2212> but nothing is working
[02:30] <arvin2212> :S
[02:30] <arvin2212> it worked before when i was in ubuntu
[02:31] <uga> arvin2212: are you running ccsm?
[02:31] <uga> or something else
[02:31] <arvin2212> yes
[02:31] <arvin2212> ccsm
[02:31] <uga> arvin2212: "desktop cube" and "rotate cube" enabled?
[02:32] <arvin2212> yup
[02:32] <arvin2212> but no effects yet
[02:32] <arvin2212> :D
[02:32] <JimmyDee> did you do compiz -- replace?
[02:33] <arvin2212> yes sir
[02:34] <arvin2212> only thing is i've not enable the desktop effects
[02:34] <arvin2212> then again, i dont know where to find it
[02:34] <arvin2212> :D
[02:34] <JimmyDee> compiz -- replace should enable the effects
[02:34] <JimmyDee> unless theres an error, have you tried compiz --replace in console and see what it says?
[02:35] <arvin2212> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[02:36] <arvin2212> Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:5b63 (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[02:36] <arvin2212> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
[02:36] <arvin2212> Trying again with indirect rendering:
[02:36] <arvin2212> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present.
[02:36] <arvin2212> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[02:36] <arvin2212> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[02:36] <arvin2212> this is what it says
[02:36] <uga> !paste
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:36] <JimmyDee> ah, are you using an ATI card?
[02:36] <andre_> hola
[02:36] <andre_> Anyone speak Spanish??????????????????
[02:36] <uga> andre_: en #kubuntu-es
[02:36] <JimmyDee> #kubuntu-es
[02:37] <andre_> thanks uga
[02:37] <andre_> thanks jimmy
[02:37] <JimmyDee> *bow*
[02:37] <JimmyDee> arvin are you on an ati card?
[02:37] <arvin2212> yeah
[02:37] <arvin2212> im using ati jimmy
[02:37] <JimmyDee> have you installed xserver-xgl?
[02:38] <arvin2212> actually i've downloaded some driver from the adept manager
[02:38] <JimmyDee> and created a new session?
[02:38] <arvin2212> but i dont think i've intalled xserver-xgl
[02:38] <arvin2212> do u think i should restart my computer?
[02:38] <JimmyDee> try in console sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[02:39] <arvin2212> its installing
[02:40] <arvin2212> Setting up xserver-xgl (7.2.0.git.20070224-0ubuntu3) ...
[02:40] <arvin2212> it says that
[02:40] <arvin2212> i think its done?
[02:40] <arvin2212> !paste
[02:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:40] <arvin2212> !paste
[02:40] <JimmyDee> do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511166
[02:40] <arvin2212> Setting up xserver-xgl (7.2.0.git.20070224-0ubuntu3) ...
[02:40] <arvin2212> arvin2212@ubuntu:~$
[02:41] <JimmyDee> that made my windows wobbly, it too shall yours
[02:41] <arvin2212> hmm
[02:41] <arvin2212> i hope
[02:41] <arvin2212> thanks jimmydee
[02:41] <JimmyDee> quite welcome
[02:41] <arvin2212> will post some feedbacks
[02:41] <JimmyDee> np
[02:42] <arvin2212> First step is getting Ati-fglrx drivers set up. To do this use the Restricted Driver Manager.
[02:42] <arvin2212> Code:
[02:42] <arvin2212> System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager
[02:42] <arvin2212> hmm how do i do that in kubuntu?
[02:42] <arvin2212> :D
[02:42] <andre_> Anyone know how do use ndiswrapper... sorry my english is bad
[02:43] <JimmyDee> see theres the rub, I used gnome
[02:43] <arvin2212> i see
[02:43] <arvin2212> haha
[02:43] <andre_> gnome what is that
[02:43] <JimmyDee> the other white meat andre
[02:44] <cihan253> hello can anyone help me about my tv card?
[02:44] <JimmyDee> what problem with the tv card?"
[02:44] <JimmyDee> multitasking, still with you arvin, working on a fix
[02:44] <cihan253> I cant use it on kubuntu
[02:44] <llp78> is there any way to hide your taskbar icons as youcan in xp?
[02:45] <waylandbill> andre_: install it and use it to install a windows driver. The community docs on help.ubuntu.com in the networking section tells how to use it.
[02:45] <cihan253> JimmyDee: I installed kdetv but cant see anything
[02:45] <JimmyDee> and you have good signal to the card?
[02:45] <uga> andre_: hace mucho que no lo he utilizado, pero los tutoriales suelen ser muy buenos para estas cosas. Solamente ignora las partes referentes al kernel, e instalar paquetes: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_wmp54gs
[02:46] <arvin2212> alright jimmydee
[02:46] <cihan253> I can use it on windows JimmyDee but I dont want to use windows anymore
[02:46] <uga> waylandbill: heh, I love gentoo tuts for this sort of stuff ;)
[02:46] <JimmyDee> join the club cihan
[02:46] <andre_> gracias UGA
[02:47] <JimmyDee> I use my hauppage bt870 with mythtv, but kdetv was always hinky
[02:47] <cihan253> JimmyDee:  in kde info I can find : Multimedia controller : Philips semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL video broadcast decoder ( rev 01 )
[02:47] <uga> andre_: segn waylandbill existen tutoriales especficos para ubuntu. Un segundo...
[02:48] <uga> andre_: there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:49] <cihan253> JimmyDee:  you mean install MythTV Frontend ?
[02:49] <brewmaster> anybody know what to do if you get a "could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application" error when trying to upgrade to gutsy gibbon?
[02:49] <JimmyDee> and the backend
[02:50] <JimmyDee> its kinda cool, lets you record etc, like a giant tivo
[02:50] <d0zer> have anyone had trouble installing nvidia drivers? i can compile the driverpackage and it seems to install.. but when i restart kdm it's like it wont accept the new compiled kernel module.. am i doing something wrong ??
[02:50] <brewmaster> nm
[02:50] <JimmyDee> arvin I'm not finding any help without using the restricted driver manager, which is not in the repos for kde till 7.10
[02:50] <brewmaster> I just tried again and now it's working :P
[02:51] <arvin2212> hmm
[02:51] <cihan253> JimmyDee:  do you know any .deb pocket to use ?
[02:52] <arvin2212> so what u mean jimmy is kubuntu doesnt have the restricted driver manager?
[02:52] <JimmyDee> precisely
[02:52] <arvin2212> .deb pocket? no idea.. :D
[02:52] <JimmyDee> packet
[02:52] <andre_> Gracias Uga voy a revisar esta documentacion...muchas gracias
[02:52] <JimmyDee> packae
[02:52] <Jucato> !qemu
[02:52] <JimmyDee> type jim
[02:52] <arvin2212> nope jimmy
[02:52] <JimmyDee> package
[02:52] <arvin2212> haha
[02:52] <andre_> Uga : si llego a solucionar mi problema te lo agradecere mucho :)
[02:52] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:52] <JimmyDee> you go Uga!
[02:52] <arvin2212> type jim package?
[02:52] <waylandbill> arvin2212: restricted-manager is available.
[02:52] <cihan253> grr ok packet :p
[02:52] <JimmyDee> no no arvin, that was me telling me to type
[02:52] <waylandbill> !info restricted-manager
[02:52] <arvin2212> waylandbill where do i get it
[02:52] <arvin2212> ahh..haha..i see
[02:52] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[02:53] <JimmyDee> its early here and its been a long night
[02:53] <arvin2212> ahh i see
[02:53] <King_anarky> evening peeps
[02:53] <JimmyDee> restricted-manager is gnome stuff
[02:53] <waylandbill> arvin2212: it will probably require some gnome libs to be installed.
[02:53] <arvin2212> hmm
[02:53] <arvin2212> im pretty new to kubuntu
[02:53] <arvin2212> :D
[02:53] <JimmyDee> it doesnt even show up waylandbill
[02:53] <Jucato> !info restricted-manager-kde gutsy
[02:54] <ubotu> restricted-manager-kde: manage non-free hardware drivers - KDE frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.31 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 288 kB
[02:54] <King_anarky> ess soundchip not found in feisty?
[02:54] <waylandbill> Jucato: I'm preparing to jump to gusty today.
[02:54] <arvin2212> i tried searching for restricted driver manager in adept
[02:54] <Jucato> waylandbill: [caps]  good luck [caps] 
[02:54] <arvin2212> and there is one
[02:54] <arvin2212> should i install it?
[02:54] <JimmyDee> gutsy doesnt play well with my webcam
[02:55] <JimmyDee> sure arvin, give er a whirl
[02:55] <arvin2212> allright
[02:55] <JimmyDee> cant hurt anything
[02:55] <arvin2212> yeah
[02:55] <arvin2212> i hope
[02:55] <arvin2212> :D
[02:55] <waylandbill> Jucato: thanks. lol
[02:55] <King_anarky> QU: ess soundchip not found in feisty?
[02:56] <JimmyDee> ess18??
[02:56] <King_anarky> sorry ess688
[02:56] <arvin2212> be right back guys
[02:56] <JimmyDee> the 18xx series had an issue a while back
[02:57] <King_anarky> forgive me im a switcher from xp :D
[02:57] <JimmyDee> we're all switchers of a sort king
[02:57] <King_anarky> everything else works neato but the soundcard/chip hasnt been found
[02:57] <JimmyDee> onboard or card?
[02:58] <King_anarky> card
[02:58] <King_anarky> ISA card, in only ISA slot :|
[02:58] <JimmyDee> ummm....may I suggest a creative labs soundcard?
[02:58] <JimmyDee> isa
[02:58] <JimmyDee> thats it
[02:58] <King_anarky> old i know but all ive got
[02:58] <waylandbill> King_anarky: the only thing we need to forgive is that you didn't switch sooner. ;-)
[02:58] <JimmyDee> never made anything isa work with ubuntu myself
[02:58] <King_anarky> ive been trying but every other install botched up
[02:58] <King_anarky> so far this has been a success
[02:59] <King_anarky> it worked on dapper drake :D
[02:59] <King_anarky> just not here now
[02:59] <andre_> Uga : yo tengo un usb Tew-424usb no lo puedo confugurar
[02:59] <waylandbill> isa. ick. I don't think you can go into the store and buy anything older than pci these days.
[02:59] <uga> andre_: ni idea, ya lo siento
[03:00] <JimmyDee> spend 30 bux buy audigy pci
[03:00] <King_anarky> only 2nd hand stuff from the junk box
[03:00] <andre_> ok gracias de todos modos
[03:00] <King_anarky> find 30 bucks :D
[03:00] <uga> andre_: you could try #ndiswrapper
[03:00] <arvin2212> hey guys
[03:00] <JimmyDee> work good, last long time
[03:00] <King_anarky> im trying to get by on what i have this is only a server but sounds would be nice
[03:00] <andre_> eso estyo haciendo
[03:00] <arvin2212> i've followed the compiz tutorial in this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511166
[03:00] <arvin2212> but
[03:00] <arvin2212> when i try to run the compi
[03:00] <arvin2212> compiz
[03:00] <arvin2212> in terminal i get this error
[03:00] <arvin2212> arvin2212@ubuntu:~$ compiz --replace
[03:00] <arvin2212> Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support
[03:00] <arvin2212> Checks indicate that it's impossible to start compiz on your system.
[03:01] <waylandbill> King_anarky: would you need sound on a server? I'd imagine you could get by without it just fine as well.
[03:01] <JimmyDee> that would indicate that the fglrx driver is not running
[03:01] <King_anarky> true, but its handy
[03:01] <waylandbill> arvin2212: old video card?
[03:01] <arvin2212> dont think so
[03:01] <arvin2212> it was working in ubuntu
[03:01] <JimmyDee> am I correct here guys its sudo apt-get install xserver-driver-fglrx
[03:02] <arvin2212> btw im using ATI X550 saphire..
[03:02] <tobias> JimmyDee: yes
[03:02] <waylandbill> arvin2212: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:02] <King_anarky> yes jimmy
[03:02] <waylandbill> arvin2212: what does that output
[03:02] <arvin2212> direct rendering: No
[03:02] <JimmyDee> no fglrx yet
[03:02] <arvin2212> aww..in ubuntu it said yes
[03:02] <King_anarky> installation text
[03:02] <arvin2212> :D
[03:03] <arvin2212> so what do  i have to do?
[03:03] <arvin2212> :D
[03:03] <JimmyDee> wait, x550?
[03:03] <waylandbill> arvin2212: did you run aticonfig yet?
[03:03] <arvin2212> yes
[03:03] <arvin2212> X550 saphire
[03:03] <arvin2212> erm not yet waylandbill
[03:03] <JimmyDee> does that do aiglx guys?
[03:03] <tobias> if it was running with ubuntu- I guess yes
[03:03] <tobias> or he installed xgl at ubuntu as well and just doesnt remember :)
[03:03] <furix> salut
[03:04] <JimmyDee> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:04] <JimmyDee> then select ati, and your proper resolution settings
[03:04] <furix> hello*
[03:04] <JimmyDee> and all the other happy junk it asks
[03:05] <arvin2212> ok ill try
[03:05] <waylandbill> JimmyDee: ati driver won't direct render. You need the fglrx.
[03:05] <arvin2212> arvin2212@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <arvin2212> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[03:05] <King_anarky> i just read kubuntu dropped ISA support
[03:05] <JimmyDee> stop stop
[03:05] <arvin2212> i get that error
[03:05] <arvin2212> :D
[03:06] <naelp> how can you get rid of the fade in tooltip when you put your cursor over the taskbar list? :/
[03:06] <naelp> so it just appears instead of fading
[03:06] <waylandbill> King_anarky: I figured that.
[03:06] <tobias> arvin2212: strg + Alt + F1 - log in as super user and do it again
[03:06] <Jucato> naelp: you can't it's either on or off only
[03:06] <JimmyDee> sudo apt-get install xserver-driver-fglrx arvin
[03:06] <arvin2212> what is strg tobias
[03:07] <tobias> oh sorry - ctrl
[03:07] <tobias> :)
[03:07] <arvin2212> E: Couldn't find package xserver-driver-fglrx
[03:07] <JimmyDee> crud
[03:08] <waylandbill> King_anarky: as newer versions are released, the system requirements would make an isa based motherboard so slow that it wouldn't be worth the time or effort.
[03:08] <King_anarky> not everyone has money man, thats why i never bought a new xp copy
[03:08] <JimmyDee> my bad sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:08] <waylandbill> JimmyDee: it's xorg-server-fglrx btw.
[03:09] <Jucato> JimmyDee: probably xorg-driver-fglrx?
[03:09] <King_anarky> um h/o
[03:09] <Jucato> it is? oh they've changed names in gutsy?
[03:09] <JimmyDee> aaack driver
[03:09] <JimmyDee> not server
[03:09] <King_anarky> no im right
[03:09] <King_anarky> nm
[03:09] <JimmyDee> my fingers arent up to snuff today
[03:10] <waylandbill> King_anarky: I feel for ya. new hardware isn't in everyone's budget, but that doesn't mean developers have to support the old hardware forever.
[03:10] <JimmyDee> 8 dolla joe, used computer store
[03:10] <King_anarky> i know
[03:10] <King_anarky> is there any legacy stuff?
[03:11] <waylandbill> Jucato: woops. it is xorg-driver-fglrx. What was I typing. LOL!
[03:11] <Jucato>  <waylandbill> JimmyDee: it's xorg-server-fglrx btw. <--- that's what :P
[03:11] <JimmyDee> I know I'm not on crack
[03:11] <Jucato> you were close though :P
[03:11] <JimmyDee> I thought I typed that
[03:12] <waylandbill> King_anarky: I'd imagine you'd have to use an older release that may not be supported.
[03:12] <waylandbill> Jucato: not enough coffee I guess. hehe
[03:12] <King_anarky> >:(
[03:13] <waylandbill> JimmyDee: not enough coffee either? :)
[03:15] <arvin2212> guys im back
[03:15] <arvin2212> jimmy
[03:15] <JimmyDee> ya?
[03:15] <arvin2212> what is the command once again?
[03:15] <arvin2212> sorry
[03:15] <waylandbill> w/b arvin2212
[03:15] <JimmyDee> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:16] <arvin2212> my computer crashed when i pressed ctrl+alt+f1
[03:16] <arvin2212> thanks waylandbill and jimmy
[03:16] <JimmyDee> dont press ctrl+alt+f1 then
[03:16] <arvin2212> haha
[03:16] <arvin2212> ok
[03:16] <waylandbill> arvin2212: you can do that in a konsole. You don't need to use vt1
[03:16] <arvin2212> xorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.
[03:16] <bjwebb_> hi
[03:17] <arvin2212> i get thta
[03:17] <arvin2212> that*
[03:17] <arvin2212> :D
[03:17] <JimmyDee> aticonfig --initial
[03:17] <Jucato> anyone w/ experience using qemu+kqemu, vmware, and/or virtualbox?  wondering if qemu+kqemu runs just as fast as the other two (to run other Linuxes, not Windows)
[03:17] <arvin2212> aticonfig: Writing to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. Bad file descriptor.
[03:17] <arvin2212> :(
[03:17] <JimmyDee> crap, sudo aticonfig --initial
[03:17] <waylandbill> Jucato: with the kernel module qemu runs rather fast.
[03:18] <waylandbill> Jucato: without it, it runs pretty slow.
[03:18] <JimmyDee> sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[03:18] <Jucato> waylandbill: kernel module? you mean the one from kqemu?
[03:18] <waylandbill> Jucato: yes.
[03:18] <t0m3k__> hi, I try to compile lastest version of GimpShop end first error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help; I compile GLib-2.14.1 from net end now I have this error: pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.14.1, but GLIB (2.12.11) was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best to remove the old version of GLib.
[03:18] <Jucato> kewl
[03:18] <arvin2212> Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[03:18] <arvin2212> Warning: Option 'OpenGLOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[03:18] <arvin2212> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <arvin2212> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[03:19] <t0m3k__> whi i must do now? End sorry for my English, im from poland
[03:19] <t0m3k__> what*
[03:19] <JimmyDee> ok then, restart the xserver using your preferred method, then log back into the kde-xgl session
[03:19] <arvin2212> erm using ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:19] <JimmyDee> thatll work
[03:19] <arvin2212> allright
[03:19] <arvin2212> :D
[03:21] <arvin2212> hmm
[03:21] <arvin2212> there is just kde
[03:21] <arvin2212> and another is xsomething wit xfirexgl (something like that)
[03:21] <JimmyDee> then you dint finish the tutorial
[03:21] <JimmyDee> xfirexgl
[03:21] <arvin2212> bt when i try to login using that xgl thingy
[03:21] <JimmyDee> then
[03:21] <arvin2212> it just goes back to the login screen
[03:21] <waylandbill> t0m3k__: isn't there a binary of gimpshop?
[03:21] <JimmyDee> are you using kdm as your login screen?
[03:22] <arvin2212> what is kdm?
[03:22] <arvin2212> :D
[03:22] <JimmyDee> I'll take that as a yes
[03:22] <tobias> yep
[03:22] <arvin2212> haha
[03:22] <tobias> you can
[03:22] <JimmyDee> sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:22] <tobias> ;)
[03:22] <JimmyDee> kdm is too slow for xgl
[03:22] <arvin2212> i see
[03:22] <JimmyDee> its caca you see
[03:23] <arvin2212> lol
[03:23] <JimmyDee> arvin in a konsole type fglrxinfo and please tell me it says ATI something and not mesa
[03:23] <ghozala> anybody help i was installing skype and it  needs this packges but i didnt find them
[03:23] <t0m3k__> waylandbill, yes, ther is but i wont lastest version :)
[03:24] <arvin2212> arvin2212@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo
[03:24] <arvin2212> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:24] <arvin2212> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:24] <arvin2212> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:24] <arvin2212> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:24] <arvin2212> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[03:24] <arvin2212> :(
[03:24] <waylandbill> you probably need to compile the version of glib it is asking for.
[03:24] <arvin2212> do u think i should go back to ubuntu?
[03:24] <arvin2212> or xubuntu
[03:24] <arvin2212> xD
[03:24] <JimmyDee> which kernel are you using arvin?
[03:24] <Jucato> !paste | arvin2212
[03:24] <ubotu> arvin2212: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:24] <waylandbill> arvin2212: you need to look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the error that caused the driver not to load.
[03:25] <arvin2212> 2.6.20-16-generic
[03:25] <JimmyDee> ok, that should work
[03:25] <ghozala> how can i get this packages qt 4.2.1+ and D-Bus 1.0.0 and libsigic++2.02 and libasound2 1.0.12
[03:25] <JimmyDee> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure fglrx is selected
[03:25] <t0m3k__> I think, I must remove  GLIB v.2.12.11 but i don't know how :( I have Linux from 3 days
[03:26] <mommsi> Einfache Frage fr die Profis. Wenn ich mit apt-get -f install Abhngigkeiten korrigiert habe, bekomme ich die (Ergebnis) Fehlermeldung das 100 Pakete nicht aktualisiert worden sind. Wer mag mir weiterhelfen ?
[03:26] <Jucato> !de | mommsi
[03:26] <ubotu> mommsi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:26] <mommsi> Danke
[03:26] <arvin2212> Package configuration
[03:26] <arvin2212> when i get to that window
[03:26] <arvin2212> i cant press ok
[03:26] <JimmyDee> tab
[03:26] <arvin2212>   For users of multi-head setups, this option will configure only one of    
[03:26] <arvin2212>   the heads.  Further configuration will have to be done manually in the X  
[03:26] <arvin2212>   server configuration file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[03:26] <waylandbill> t0m3k__: if you're new to linux, you may not want to use the latest version. You may want to stick with the stable version.
[03:26] <arvin2212> ahh
[03:27] <arvin2212> got it
[03:27] <arvin2212> xD
[03:27] <waylandbill> t0m3k__: latest versions could have bugs and other strange things that you may not know how to deal with yet.
[03:28] <JimmyDee> strange being the key word in that phrase
[03:28] <arash> waylandbill , isn't it more like the newer (K)Ubuntu has more GUI and automatics (less terminal)?
[03:28] <JimmyDee> the terminal is your freyund
[03:28] <arvin2212> hmm
[03:28] <arvin2212> i think im done
[03:28] <JimmyDee> ok restart xserver
[03:29] <JimmyDee> come back and pastebin your fglrxinfo and glxinfo
[03:29] <arvin2212> ok
[03:29] <JimmyDee> then give us the link
[03:29] <waylandbill> arash: newer version of a single application is a little different than the whole os.
[03:30] <arash> waylandbill: ah, I assumed you talked about the os, I didn't read the previous messages.
[03:30] <t0m3k__> waylandbill: ok, so thx for help :) I'll install binary v. God bye or do usyszenia!! (Polish version ;p )
[03:31] <waylandbill> t0m3k__: don't let my advice stop you from attempting to build head versions when you're more experienced of course.
[03:34] <mauri> i'm not able to read what a cd audio contains
[03:34] <arash> Any good DC++ clients any1 can recommend, and don't end up in me getting to compile it myself?
[03:35] <mauri> i'm not able to read what a cd audio content
[03:35] <arash> !patience |mauri
[03:35] <ubotu> mauri: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:36] <mauri> arash: no, i wote worng contains
[03:36] <arash> anyway, do you mean nothing happens when you put a disk in the tray?
[03:37] <mauri> arash: what it happen is that with dolphin all it' fine but with a terminal or xterm the cdrom0 directory is empty
[03:38] <waylandbill> mauri: in a terminal, you'll only see data CD contents, not an audio cd.
[03:39] <mauri> waylandbill: ok but i think that with a cat command i'm able to copy entire disk
[03:39] <uga> mauri: dd, rather
[03:39] <uga> dd if =/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
[03:39] <waylandbill> mauri: I'm sure you can use dd or some other program that looks at the cd in a low level.. sure..
[03:40] <waylandbill> mauri: but that doesn't mean that you can use ls to view the contents or anything like that.
[03:41] <uga> mauri: an audio CD doesn't contain directories and files, so you cannot see them from terminal mode
[03:42] <uga> mauri: in the gui, under dolphin, dolphin creates a "virtual" filesystem, that does not exist in the CD, to make the user easier read it
[03:42] <uga> but what you see in dolphin isn't the real contents of the CD
[03:42] <yeo_> can someone reccomend an ftp client for kde plz?>
[03:42] <uga> yeo_: konqueror
[03:43] <uga> just type ftp://... and you're done
[03:43] <waylandbill> kget isn't bad either.
[03:43] <uga> waylandbill: ?
[03:43] <uga> kget doesn't allow browsing or uploading, just downloading
[03:43] <uga> wakeup! ;P
[03:44] <waylandbill> when used in conjunction with konqueror, kget is a nice tool though. :)
[03:44] <waylandbill> it wasn't specified that the client needed to upload. :-P
[03:45] <waylandbill> otherwise I'd just use ftp in a terminal. hehe
[03:45] <yeo_> ahh cool konq seems to be doing the trick
[03:46] <ckorkuch> anyone got anylinks for an Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g?  Ive tried several howtos with no luck
[03:48] <waylandbill> ckorkuch: I have that card. Using ndiswrapper with a windows driver yielded excellent results
[03:48] <ghozala> hay any body help i ve downloaded skype and i didnt know how to install it
[03:48] <uga> yeo_: http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=76
[03:48] <uga> have a look at that
[03:48] <uga> konqueror kioslaves can do much more than you think
[03:49] <waylandbill> ghozala: where did you download it from?
[03:49] <ghozala> from skype.com
[03:50] <ghozala> waylandbill: i dont how to install it
[03:50] <uga> ghozala: what format is the file
[03:50] <uga> tar.gz, tar.bz2, .deb, .rpm...?
[03:50] <waylandbill> ghozala: dpkg -i
[03:50] <ghozala> .deb
[03:51] <uga> then dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:51] <uga> ghozala: I believe konqueror allows right-click install too
[03:51] <ghozala> inn konsole
[03:51] <uga> maybe I'm wrong but I think it does
[03:51] <waylandbill> uga, it does. right-click, actions, install.
[03:51] <allexander> 
[03:51] <emilsedgh> uga: no, not in feisty
[03:51] <uga> !ru | allexander
[03:51] <ubotu> allexander:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:52] <ghozala> how ???
[03:52] <uga> emilsedgh: ah
[03:52] <emilsedgh> uga: there was a servicemenu for pre-feisty things
[03:52] <uga> why was it removed
[03:52] <uga> I find it useful for end-users
[03:52] <ghozala> there is emial file and send with bluetoth only there is no install
[03:53] <uga> what on earth... there's no official skype linux version anymore?
[03:53] <uga> those guys dropped it?
[03:53] <waylandbill> now I'm confused. I have fiesty and when I right-click in konqueror or from the desktop on a deb file, I have Kubuntu Package Menu, Install Package.
[03:54] <uga> a second. I'm in gutsy. Will test too
[03:54] <ghozala> uga: what is that mean  dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[03:54] <emilsedgh> waylandbill: you upgraded to feisty ?
[03:55] <waylandbill> emilsedgh: no. clean install of feisty
[03:55] <emilsedgh> ghozala: means you should run it as root
[03:55] <uga> waylandbill: it got removed, right
[03:55] <tobias> ghozala: do sudo and then the command
[03:55] <uga> not here in gutsy
[03:55] <waylandbill> uga: darn. That was a nice feature actually.
[03:55] <yeo_> and is there a good wysiwyg html editor for kde?
[03:55] <uga> waylandbill: it shouldn't be hard to add your own actions there. A .desktop file I believe
[03:56] <uga> waylandbill: maybe report a bug? =)
[03:56] <emilsedgh> yeo_: no
[03:56] <emilsedgh> uga: how's gutsy's new package installed?
[03:56] <emilsedgh> s/installed/installer
[03:56] <uga> yeo_: quanta works for you?
[03:56] <emilsedgh> uga: quanta+ is not WYSIWYG
[03:57] <uga> emilsedgh: it's got a wysiwyg part
[03:57] <uga> not sure how good or bad it works, but it does have one
[03:57] <Jucato> it doesn't
[03:57] <Jucato> I've asked the devs
[03:57] <waylandbill> yeo_: there are wysiwyg editors, but coding yields a far better output.
[03:57] <mauri> uga: i'm not able to creates virtual
[03:57] <yeo_> coding html?
[03:57] <Jucato> kompozer, successor to Nvu, is available in Gutsy
[03:58] <emilsedgh> uga: thats VPL, i dunno whats that, but thats crap, the only try to bring that into kde was kafka which is a dead project for yearts
[03:58] <uga> emilsedgh: uhm, that's the one I was referring to
[03:59] <emilsedgh> kafka is dead from 2002 without any output
[03:59] <uga> emilsedgh: nono, not kafka, I meant vpl
[03:59] <waylandbill> yeo_: yes. code. HTML is a markup language.
[04:00] <yeo_> hm k
[04:00] <emilsedgh> uga: it does something like this: remove all the tags and show the text :D (this is what i see from it)
[04:00] <ksivaji> i am trying to install samba using apt-get from rep but its trying to  remove autoconf automake1.9 linux-headers-2.6.20-16 linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[04:00] <emilsedgh> yes, nvu should be nice for WYSIWYG
[04:01] <emilsedgh> ksivaji: complete output please :)
[04:01] <uga> emilsedgh: rather limited though
[04:01] <ksivaji> emilsedgh one sec
[04:01] <waylandbill> doing wysiwyg, you could even use oowriter to produce html output.
[04:01] <emilsedgh> ksivaji: in pastebin service
[04:01] <ksivaji> ya
[04:01] <emilsedgh> !pastebin | ksivaji
[04:01] <ubotu> ksivaji: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:01] <emilsedgh> thanks
[04:03] <ksivaji> emilsedgh http://pastebin.com/m1ff5aea9
[04:04] <ksivaji> emilsedgh
[04:04] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ uname -r
[04:04] <ksivaji> 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:04] <emilsedgh> ksivaji: have you any on-offucual repository?
[04:04] <ksivaji> yes
[04:05] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m2468ba21
[04:05] <emilsedgh> s/offucual/official
[04:06] <emilsedgh> ksivaji: looks like they are all ubuntu repo's, try sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <ksivaji> emilsedgh ya i tried just before
[04:07] <emilsedgh> ksivaji: so this should be a problem from ubuntu side (as i can see), try to report MOTU's about this and try again in a few hours
[04:07] <emilsedgh> am i right Jucato?
[04:08] <SphiniX> Hi all, real n00b here. Just installed Kubuntu on an old laptop and its running fine. I was wondering if you guys and galls could help me out. How do I perform offline installations of programs (like Xine etc)? The laptop doesnt have internet access, so I want to use my external harddrive...
[04:08] <ksivaji> !MOTU
[04:08] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[04:08] <LjL> !info apt-zip | SphiniX
[04:08] <ubotu> sphinix: apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:08] <LjL> !offline | SphiniX
[04:08] <ubotu> SphiniX: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[04:09] <waylandbill> What's up with ksivaji getting that the kernel package wants to be removed?
[04:09] <SphiniX> thats great, thanks all
[04:09] <waylandbill> aptCD is another alternative as well.
[04:09] <ksivaji>    waylandbill   no i dont want to remove that kernel
[04:10] <ksivaji> waylandbill it tried to remove my kernel
[04:10] <waylandbill> ksivaji: I'm not saying you do and you shouldn't, but apt is saying it wants to.
[04:10] <ksivaji> waylandbill it tries* to remove my kernel
[04:10] <ksivaji> waylandbill is there any solution for this
[04:10] <SphiniX> How do I find out which distro I have?? I thought it was KDE, but I feel n00bie just asking this :)
[04:11] <llutz> SphiniX: lsb_release -a
[04:11] <SphiniX> thx
[04:11] <waylandbill> I'm wondering why it was flagged as an unneeded dependency. Sounds like an important metapackage was removed or something
[04:12] <ksivaji> waylandbill ya i removed some package long back
[04:12] <ksivaji> but i am not sure whether it is meta or something
[04:13] <waylandbill> ksivaji: all that you install or remove is logged in /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:14] <ksivaji> ho
[04:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[04:16] <waylandbill> hi BluesKaj
[04:16] <giacomino> ciao
[04:16] <BluesKaj> hi waylandbill, busy this morning ?
[04:17] <waylandbill> not really. just trying to dist upgrade to gusty using adept.
[04:19] <deviance> How can I find my graphics card out?
[04:19] <waylandbill> yipes. 1 gig to download. will do that later.
[04:19] <deviance> Jucato: How do I enable the nvidia-glx drivers and find out my grapics card?
[04:19] <emilsedgh> hi BluesKaj
[04:20] <Jucato> deviance: to find out: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:20] <BluesKaj> yeah waylandbill , i did that relatively successfully yesterday, but I'made the mistake of trying to install the new development kernel  2.6.22 and my pc wouldn't boot into it , but it boots fine into the 2.6.20 kernel.
[04:20] <BluesKaj> hi emilsedgh
[04:20] <deviance> nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (rev a1) thats gonna be nvidia-glx then isnt it
[04:21] <deviance> Or could be legacy
[04:21] <deviance> Hmm
[04:21] <llutz> deviance: 7300gs = glx-new here
[04:21] <deviance> -new?
[04:21] <waylandbill> deviance: lspci will tell the video card.
[04:21] <deviance> Oh
[04:21] <Jucato> !nvidia
[04:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:21] <Jucato> deviance: follow that link to the nvidia page
[04:21] <waylandbill> for a pci video card anyway.
[04:22] <deviance> Ah
[04:22] <Jucato> there's a link to a list of cards
[04:22] <deviance> :D
[04:22] <deviance> You want one or more of the following: hardware-accelerated 3D, TV-Out support, dual head support
[04:22] <deviance> I dont have any of thoes I dont think
[04:23] <Jucato> emilsedgh: sorry I was out of the room and out of it.. couldn't reply to your request for confirmation/support
[04:23] <llutz> deviance: at least hardware-accelerated 3D, otherwise you can still use "nv"-driver
[04:23] <deviance> How can I tell if I have hardware-accelerated 3D?
[04:24] <emilsedgh> Jucato: np
[04:24] <llutz> deviance: if you don't miss anything (playing video, playing games...) you won't need the nvidia-driver
[04:25] <deviance> I miss playing games :P
[04:25] <deviance> How can I tell if I have hardware-accelerated 3D?
[04:26] <llutz> deviance: the 7300 has it, but you'll need the nvidia-driver to use it
[04:26] <deviance> Ok
[04:26] <deviance> Is the nvidia-driver the nvidia-glx?
[04:26] <llutz> deviance: as i said: i use glx-new fot 7300gs
[04:26] <llutz> for
[04:27] <deviance> Okay :D
[04:28] <deviance> Im installing it now
[04:28] <deviance> Now to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:30] <deviance> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[04:30] <deviance> llutz: Could I change it in the control center then?
[04:31] <llutz> deviance: controlcenter? xorg.conf is the place for changes
[04:31] <deviance> kcontrol would let me select nv or propietory drivers though
[04:31] <Cugel> I finally caved and installed Compiz. Impressive (except for all the error messages and crashes). Anyway.
[04:32] <deviance> Okay, how do I change xorg? Is that dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:34] <llutz> deviance: just make sure that the line "Driver "nvidia"  exists (not "nv") in that file
[04:36] <deviance> HAHA It worked!
[04:36] <deviance> Thanks soo much llutz :D
[04:36] <deviance> I restarted and got a huge NVIDIA screen :D
[04:37] <deviance> I love you
[04:37] <llutz> deviance: type "glxinfo |grep render"
[04:37] <deviance> direct rendering: Yes
[04:37] <deviance> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2
[04:37] <deviance>     GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
[04:37] <llutz> fine, all done it works
[04:37] <deviance> That means my screensaver works if nothing else :D
[04:37] <deviance> :D
[04:39] <deviance> Best day of my life :D
[04:39] <deviance> Now for compiz-fusion
[04:40] <emilsedgh> haha
[04:40] <waylandbill> deviance: certainly you've had better days than seeing an nvidia screen. :)
[04:41] <deviance> Is 46C degrees hot for a graphics card?
[04:43] <llutz> deviance: not really
[04:43] <deviance> :D
[04:43] <deviance> Okay then
[04:43] <deviance> :D
[04:47] <deviance> Okay, compiz fusion works, but ive lost all windo decoration
[04:48] <ckorkuch> anyone help me with some minor wireless troubles?
[04:50] <ckorkuch> do i need to put in the default gateway IP of my router to get wireless working in Knetworkmanager?
[04:52] <runlevelten> If you've lost all window decoration, that means it doesn't work.
[04:53] <mauri> i'm not able to view a cd audio content
[04:56] <mauri>  i'm not able to view a cd audio content
[04:59] <sbucat> hi...i am in gutsy and it works fine but....i have no boost for microfone i have alc861-vd intel
[05:06] <deviance> Jucato: I ran compiz --replace to start CF, how do I switch back?
[05:06] <Jucato> back to what? kwin? "kwin --replace"
[05:08] <deviance> That worked
[05:09] <deviance> Now how can I prevent compiz from failing to open?
[05:13] <Silsa> Beryl was not working correctly because my nvidia drivers were not installed. I manually installed them and everything seemed to be working correctly as beryl started working and I could do various things you'd expect to only be able to do once the drivers were installed. So I also installed flash player and after that my sound stopped working so I restarted my computer. At this point I can't get into a graphical interface of any sort. I can
[05:13] <mauri>  i'm not able to view a cd audio content
[05:14] <Jucato> Silsa: try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[05:14] <Silsa> ok thx
[05:16] <emilsedgh_> mauri: try audiocd:/ in konqueror
[05:17] <mauri> emilsedgh_: using dolphin i'm able to see the content but i'm not able using xterm or a terminal
[05:18] <emilsedgh_> mauri: sure, thats a KIO Slave, if you want to rip an audiocd from terminal you should use programs like acidrip i think
[05:19] <mauri> emilsedgh_: samone told me that should be possibile to copy entire cd using cat command
[05:19] <Tm_T> cd?
[05:20] <Tm_T> ah yes
[05:20] <emilsedgh_> mauri: dunno, dont think so...
[05:20] <Tm_T> it is
[05:20] <Tm_T> cat /dev/hdX > foofoo.iso
[05:20] <Tm_T> done
[05:21] <mauri> Tm_T: yes i try
[05:21] <xeniter> !mp3
[05:22] <gustavo> does anyone knows a app like 'getright' that uses proxy?
[05:22] <ubunturos> gustavo: kget, may be
[05:22] <emilsedgh_> gustavo: kget does...
[05:22] <Tm_T> gustavo: how about telling us what this getright is?
[05:23] <ubunturos> Tm_T: getright is a download manager for windows (DAP etc. like stuff)
[05:23] <andy_111> hi all
[05:23] <Tm_T> I see, then Kget, yes
[05:23] <andy_111> have a question about kernel modules
[05:23] <gustavo> thaaanks
[05:23] <Tm_T> or, why not, wget
[05:23] <mauri> Tm_T: cat: /dev/scd0: Input/output error
[05:23] <gustavo> Tm_T: download manager
[05:23] <Tm_T> gustavo: got it
[05:23] <gustavo> wget for a several files? not so practical
[05:23] <Tm_T> mauri: scd0 ?
[05:24] <Tm_T> gustavo: true, but then again, I rarely download stuff that way so I don't mind
[05:24] <andy_111> can anyone help with kernel modules?
[05:24] <oreomasta> join #ubuntu-documentation
[05:24] <Tm_T> andy_111: not if you dont tell what is your problem
[05:24] <mauri> Tm_T: yes...this is what Disk & fileSitems shown
[05:24] <Tm_T> mauri: then dont know
[05:25] <andy_111> Tm_T: thanx, well i have a dvb-c card from twinhan
[05:25] <andy_111> and i have to compile the kernel modules for it
[05:25] <rempresent> dudes, gnome is so bloated in ubuntu it makes me sick, i can't get anything to work properly
[05:25] <rempresent> so i am switching to kubuntu
[05:25] <rempresent> i have one question though
[05:25] <andy_111> it looks like the compilations does not work
[05:26] <rempresent> can you use the AWN window manager/dock to work in KDE?
[05:26] <andy_111> but it did work with another kernel version and another distribution...so is there any general way to get a module compiled with any kernel?
[05:27] <deviance> In compiz-fusion I have to set a command to keep my window decoration from dissapearing whats this command for KDE?
[05:27] <Silsa> how do i uninstall nvidia drivers and everything that goes with it? I can't get to a graphical mode of any sort although it says X Server is running
[05:27] <Tm_T> rempresent: well sure you can change WM in KDE
[05:27] <relic> Are the Pinnacle tv/vid editing devices workable with kubuntu?
[05:27] <Tm_T> andy_111: you havent told what is your compilation problem
[05:28] <rempresent> kk, this should be a good thing
[05:28] <rempresent> does amarok run faster in KDE since it has been developed for that environment first
[05:28] <rempresent> seems really slow on my system, like itunes slow
[05:29] <andy_111> Tm_T: i'm getting an error when trying to compile the driver
[05:29] <oreomasta> rempresent: amarok runs fast for me in Kubuntu... much faster than my iTunes at work
[05:29] <andy_111> i have another drvier version whoch does not work properly, anyway this one at least comiles with kernel 2.6.20 but does not with 2.6.22
[05:30] <rempresent> neat, i know that they are developing that for Mac OS X and I can't wait, because itunes is such a kick in the mouth
[05:30] <andy_111> hen the driver which compilse ok with another distribution and works will fail with kubuntu and I would like to make it work with kubuntu
[05:30] <rempresent> can't change my OS at work though, I have sold my soul to Adobe a long time ago
[05:31] <oreomasta> rempresent: http://ubuntustudio.org/ Although it no Adobe suite... it's still pretty slick :)
[05:31] <Tm_T> andy_111: yes, but _what_ error
[05:31] <rempresent> i kinda like the gimp, but it still seems very rough
[05:31] <Tm_T> andy_111: and, is that driver meant to go that kernel version?
[05:32] <rempresent> inkscape is nice, and I haven't tried the inDesign equivalent yet
[05:32] <rempresent> i hope that works well
[05:32] <rempresent> i hate adobe, but i am a designer so I really have no choice, i do at home however
[05:32] <andy_111> Tm_T: well, I do not know, how could I find this out?
[05:33] <alexweb> How can I know which process is accessing a folder inside my /tmp dir
[05:33] <andy_111> the docs don't say anything about limitations
[05:33] <esc> is there a way to check if my GIOChannel  is still open?
[05:34] <Tm_T> andy_111: hard to say
[05:34] <alexweb> I have some weird folders inside /tmp and wanna to know wich process is responsible for creation of them
[05:34] <Tm_T> andy_111: but error is more important
[05:34] <Tm_T> andy_111: so, I
[05:34] <andy_111> Tm_T: could I somehow donwgrade the kernel to 2.6.18 with kubuntu in order to test it?
[05:34] <alexweb> or at least wich process is accessing them
[05:34] <Tm_T> andy_111: I'd say find a way to fix the issue that causes the error and you should be fine
[05:35] <andy_111> Tm_T: unfortunatly I'm not a coder
[05:35] <Tm_T> andy_111: hmm, I wouldnt recommend it
[05:35] <Tm_T> andy_111: well it doesnt need to be "coding" issue
[05:35] <Tm_T> andy_111: depends what is your error
[05:35] <andy_111> is there any way to get these drivers to be included into the kubuntu distro?
[05:36] <d0zer> anyone know if there are any further configuration needed when installing nvidia-glx ? i aptget it but it doesnt seem to install any drivers
[05:36] <Tm_T> !wish | andy_111
[05:36] <Tm_T> gah
[05:36] <Tm_T> bot is gone
[05:36] <Tm_T> andy_111: bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[05:36] <Tm_T> andy_111: or, launchpad anyway
[05:36] <andy_111> oki, will check this out then
[05:37] <andy_111> I see that at least the driver which fails to comile need kernel 2.6.18
[05:37] <Tm_T> andy_111: make a wish, but its possible that driver is not suitable and anyway you have to wait all the way to next spring to get it
[05:37] <andy_111> Tm_T: is there any documantation how to adapt a driver to make it run with different kernel versions?
[05:38] <Tm_T> andy_111: no idea, I am not kernel specialist
[05:38] <andy_111> do you know any?
[05:38] <Silsa> How do I uninstall/reinstall the NVIDIA kernel module? I can't get to graphical mode becaues it's not functioning.
[05:39] <bmk789> Silsa: have you tried envy?
[05:39] <Tm_T> andy_111: sorry, nope, perhaps #ubuntu-kernel can help, perhaps not
[05:39] <d0zer> Same problem here Silsa
[05:39] <andy_111> thanx
[05:39] <d0zer> bmk789: envy ?
[05:39] <Silsa> bmk789: What is envy?
[05:39] <Kachna> Silsa: shouldn't it be like modprobe -r nvidia ?
[05:39] <bmk789> nvidia driver installer
[05:39] <bmk789> it almost always gets your driver working
[05:39] <mauri>  i'm not able to view a cd audio content
[05:40] <Tm_T> bmk789: sorry but envy is not "officially supported" as its known to break systems
[05:40] <Silsa> kachna: Perhaps... still in my first week on linux here. Im trying now
[05:40] <Tm_T> Silsa: same to you
[05:40] <Kachna> i'm not sure if it'S called nvidia,for ATi it's fglrx :-) but in X it should say smth like it's in use
[05:41] <Silsa> Kachna: THANK YOU
[05:41] <Silsa> caps sry
[05:41] <Kachna> :-) U'r welcome, I'm new to it all too,but it's easy learning :P
[05:41] <Silsa> kachna: That uninstalled it, i can get back to graphical mode now... i knew it was something simple haha. Now to retry intalling these dang nvidia drivers
[05:41] <Kachna> it doesn't uninstall,just unload
[05:42] <Silsa> ah
[05:42] <Tm_T> Silsa: you can just reconfigure X to use another driver
[05:42] <Kachna> to load again just use modprobe nvidia
[05:42] <Kachna> did u install it grom apt?
[05:43] <Silsa> nah, i downloaded the driver and installed in manually
[05:43] <Hub441> hi!
[05:43] <Kachna> mm...thinking what could be the way to uninstall then, maybe run that file with --help? :P (U'r trying to uninstall it,am i right? :-))
[05:43] <Hub441> does anybody know how to get the shutdown-menue from kubuntu on debian?
[05:44] <Silsa> kachna: Yea, either that or make it work correctly heh
[05:45] <Tm_T> Silsa: anyway, I recommend to install nvidia driver from package manager like it should be done
[05:45] <Kachna> well would try it with --help or just googling it,I use ATi so can't say much :/
[05:46] <Silsa> Tm_T: I tried that but it alwasys gave me an error :( Said something along the lines of it couldn't commit changes :( I tried installing most of the different driver packages after the one i was supposed to use didn't work and got same message every time
[05:47] <Silsa> But screw this nvidia problem for now... my sound isn't working. I think it stopped working after I installed flash player. Any ideas?
[05:50] <bmk789> Silsa: run "alsamixer" in a terminal and check all the volume levels
[05:52] <Silsa> bnk789: They are where they should be :( Sound was working im really not sure what could've happend to it
[05:53] <Silsa> I noticed the sound wasn't working after I installed flash player and tried palying a video in my web browser... i noticed it didn't have sound so i thought it was just a problem with flash, but no sound works on anything :(
[05:58] <Silsa> welp, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset fixed the sound
[06:01] <jimmacdonald> well I am up and running on the new beta
[06:03] <d00dMan> would a net install of kubuntu detect hardware with kernel 2.6.17+ on initial install?
[06:05] <Silsa> When I run beryl, it makes it so that all my windows become undrggable/unmoveable and the x and - close and minimize buttons dissappear. What could the problem be?
[06:06] <deviance> I want to take an AVI file and burn it straght to a DVD, is there an easy way to do this, or do i have to go through a quite length procedure?
[06:07] <uga> deviance: the process is easy even on the command line, but recoding into mpeg2 can take ages
[06:08] <BluesKaj> the question is deviance , where is it going to be viewed?
[06:08] <deviance> DVD player
[06:08] <BluesKaj> stand alone dvdplayer?
[06:08] <deviance> Ye
[06:08] <deviance> Yes*
[06:09] <uga> and the dvd player doesn't support divx I understand?
[06:09] <deviance> Nope
[06:09] <uga> uhm
[06:09] <uga> ffmpeg =)
[06:09] <uga> or frontends
[06:09] <deviance> As far as I can tell its quite old, and just plays normal dvds
[06:10] <BluesKaj> you prolly have to transcode to mpeg which can take 2hrs for a full dvd.
[06:10] <Tibo> hi all !
[06:10] <Tibo> there are french here ??
[06:10] <Jucato> !fr | Tibo
[06:10] <ubunturos> !fr | Tibo
[06:10] <Jucato> oops bot is down
[06:10] <BluesKaj> deviance , try tovid
[06:10] <Jucato> Tibo: #ubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-fr
[06:11] <Tibo> ok thanks you very much !
[06:11] <thomas_> !opengl
[06:11] <thomas_> !glx
[06:11] <Jucato> the bot is down
[06:11] <thomas_> :(
[06:11] <uga> deviance: there's tons of tools to create dvds http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kavi2dvd?content=36351  could do maybe, but I can't tell what guis to suggest
[06:11] <uga> deviance: do you mind doing so on the commmand line?
[06:11] <deviance> ] Hmm
[06:11] <thomas_> so where do I find info to get 3D hardware acc working?
[06:12] <deviance> I would prefer GUI
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i install my /home to an other folder?
[06:12] <thomas_> got an intel GMA chipset
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> no an other artition?
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> t
[06:12] <deviance> partiton*
[06:12] <MetaMorfoziS> yes:)
[06:12] <deviance> uga: That looks good to me :D
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> i want a /data partition, and a /data/home folder, for home ... how can i do that? so /data/home is not a partition, it's a folder.
[06:13] <uga> deviance: yes, but I don't see deb packs
[06:13] <deviance> But uga, I cannot compile it myself, my machine wont do compiling, so I need a deb :(
[06:13] <uga> and it dates back to 2k6, not too maintained
[06:13] <uga> deviance: are you on gutsy by any chance?
[06:14] <gustavo> ubunturos: hey
[06:14] <deviance> No, feisty
[06:14] <uga> arf. Else  I could have built one
[06:14] <ubunturos> gustavo: hi!
[06:14] <NickPresta> MetaMorfoziS, http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-archiving  Check out: `find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd new-dir`
[06:14] <gustavo> ubunturos: does kget supports proxy? i cant find it
[06:14] <ubunturos> gustavo: I'm not sure. May be it does
[06:15] <gustavo> get it doesnt :(
[06:15] <ubunturos> gustavo: ah
[06:16] <uga> deviance: atp-get install devede
[06:16] <uga> that tool should do
[06:16] <deviance> uga, just found that on softpedia :P
[06:16] <MetaMorfoziS> NickPresta > i think it's not what i want
[06:17] <MetaMorfoziS> so how can i say to the system, that the home is in /data/home instead of /home
[06:17] <NickPresta> symlink /home to /data/home?
[06:17] <MetaMorfoziS> is that can work?
[06:17] <NickPresta> I don't know. I've never had the need to try
[06:17] <MetaMorfoziS> not slower?
[06:18] <MetaMorfoziS> where is the ~ and HOME gets it's values?
[06:18] <uga> NickPresta: not the right way
[06:19] <uga> there's a place to specify homes for each user... a sec
[06:19] <NickPresta> I don't really know how you would do it, MetaMorfoziS, I would wait for someone, like uga, who knows how to help you
[06:19] <NickPresta> :)
[06:19] <hydrogen> its the -d paramater
[06:20] <hydrogen> usermod -d HOME DIRECTORY user
[06:20] <hydrogen> pass -m to have anything in current home be moved to new home
[06:20] <hydrogen> so usermod -m -d /data/home login
[06:20] <hydrogen> or you may be better off just symlinking /home to /data/home
[06:20] <MetaMorfoziS> usermod -dm /data/home ?
[06:20] <uga> hydrogen: oh well, I was looking for the gui way ;)
[06:20] <MetaMorfoziS> symlinking is not slower?
[06:20] <hydrogen> no
[06:21] <hydrogen> or
[06:21] <hydrogen> the smartest option
[06:21] <matthew> wheres ubotu ?
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm before isntalling
[06:21] <hydrogen> is /data/home a separate partition?
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> can i do that during the install?
[06:21] <hydrogen> or is /data a separate partiton
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> hydrogen > NO!
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> tahts my problem
[06:21] <uga> MetaMorfoziS: easier... system settings->user management->admin mode->select user->right click modify->write new home
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> /data is a diff. partition
[06:21] <Silsa> When I run beryl, it makes it so that all my windows become undrggable/unmoveable and the x and - close and minimize buttons dissappear. What could the problem be?
[06:21] <MetaMorfoziS> but /data/home is not.
[06:21] <hydrogen> ah
[06:21] <hydrogen> yea
[06:21] <hydrogen> then just symlink
[06:21] <hydrogen> will be just as fast
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> uga > i'm actually @ the partitioning (alternate install)
[06:22] <MetaMorfoziS> ln -s /home /data/home ?
[06:22] <NickPresta> Silsa, do you have Emerald running? Perhaps you need to add: Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" to your xorg.conf
[06:22] <uga> MetaMorfoziS: then you can use usermod -d
[06:23] <uga> to have it use a different home
[06:23] <Silsa> NickPresta: Ok, i'll try it. And I don't think i have emerald running but im not really sure
[06:23] <NickPresta> Silsa, in a terminal: ps aux | grep emerald
[06:23] <MetaMorfoziS> thx all
[06:24] <uga> MetaMorfoziS: the problem I find with symlinks is that some apps are designed not to follow symlinks by default
[06:24] <Silsa> NickPresta: What should I see what I type that in terminal? I see " 7834   0.0   0.0    2880   760 pts/1    S+    12:23    0:00 grep emerald"
[06:25] <uga> MetaMorfoziS: and there's no real need to specify yet another jump step when you can define the real one straight
[06:25] <NickPresta> Silsa, in the same terminal, run: emerald --replace
[06:25] <hydrogen> MetaMorfoziS: yes
[06:25] <uzlytyyt> hi there
[06:25] <NickPresta> !hi | uzlytyyt
[06:26] <uzlytyyt> uhm i have a problem with first time setting up adsl in kubuntu
[06:26] <Silsa> NickPresta: Says "X error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169:
[06:26] <NickPresta> !baddevice | Silsa
[06:26] <quixogre> uzlytyyt: what kind of problem?
[06:26] <Silsa> also, where is the xorg.conf again? 4th day of linux for me heh
[06:26] <NickPresta> Silsa, it's okay. you can ignore it
[06:26] <Jucato> there is no bot
[06:26] <uga> Silsa: /etc/X11
[06:26] <Silsa> k
[06:27] <hydrogen> its fairly easy to fix the problem, but don't worry about it
[06:27] <quixogre> Jucato: whered bot go?
[06:27] <hydrogen> home
[06:27] <Jucato> weekend
[06:27] <uga>  /data/home =)
[06:27] <LjL> !bot
[06:27] <quixogre> poor bot...prolly being outsourced to india
[06:27] <JimmyDee> bot off on weekends and holidays, damn union bots
[06:27] <LjL> ahum
[06:27] <matthew> how can i find out whatwireless cards work in kubuntu?
[06:28] <hydrogen> !wireless
[06:28] <ubotwo> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:28] <Silsa> So where am I supposed to add "AddARGBGLXVisuals" in xorg.conf?
[06:28] <Jucato> there!
[06:29] <NickPresta> Silsa, in the Device section
[06:29] <quixogre> matthew: tbh, wireless support in ubuntu is sketchy, at best
[06:30] <NickPresta> quixogre, I would hardly call it sketchy
[06:30] <JimmyDee> nowhere near that good
[06:30] <quixogre> nick, i've yet to find a wireless card that is fully supported.
[06:30] <uzlytyyt> first of all, according to kppp, im missing a resolv.conf.
[06:30] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[06:31] <Silsa> Says I can't save it because i don't have the permissions... How do i access xorg.conf as root or sudo or whatever? Kdese kate or some crap?
[06:31] <NickPresta> Well, the fact that I can plug in my PCMCIA card into my laptop and have it fully recognized without any installation of drivers, speaks loads, especially when I can't do that in Windows :)
[06:31] <tekstacy> What is a good voip?
[06:31] <NickPresta> Silsa, kdesu kate FILE
[06:31] <JimmyDee> what kind of card you got nick, I'm buyin one
[06:31] <NickPresta> It's an SMC EZ Connection card but there are better supported cards out there. Ralink, I believe, it well supported
[06:32] <JimmyDee> linksys?
[06:32] <quixogre> NickPresta: you're the first person i've met able to do so...are you using wep or wpa?
[06:32] <NickPresta> quixogre, WEP at home.
[06:32] <uzlytyyt> so how do i create resolv.conf the right way? Should i be root to do that? I've tried sudo command
[06:33] <quixogre> uzlytyyt: hehe i'd use vi personally...but im a unix geek like that
[06:34] <denis__> hello guys
[06:34] <denis__> i wanted to start displayconfig-gtk
[06:34] <uzlytyyt> so whats the commandline...
[06:34] <denis__> so i wrote kdesu displayconfig-gtk
[06:34] <denis__> kubuntu asked me about the passwort.
[06:34] <Silsa> NickPresta: adding "AddARGBGLXVisuals" to xorg.cong in the device section did nothing... i still can't drag/move windows after beryl starts and the x and - close/minimize buttons dissappear
[06:35] <denis__> so i tipped it.
[06:35] <Silsa> it's like the upper most bar on windows just go away
[06:35] <quixogre> denis__: try ALT+f2, then just enter the command you want to run
[06:35] <denis__> than displayconfig-gtk started. and gone off
[06:35] <NickPresta> Silsa, right click on the Beryl tray icon. Click on Reload Window Manager
[06:35] <Silsa> also, shouldn't i be able to run beryl without launching it from terminal? Becuase i don't seem to be able to find a way to do so
[06:35] <denis__> i did so.
[06:35] <NickPresta> Silsa, sorry, Window Decorator **
[06:35] <uga> Silsa: alt+f2, and just enter the command
[06:35] <uga> no need to run from terminal
[06:36] <uga> Silsa: just enter "beryl --replace" there
[06:36] <Silsa> NickPresta: After I run beryl i don't see a beryl tray icon anywhere :(
[06:37] <Silsa> it is running though since the 3D Cube starts working
[06:37] <d00dMan> so how's this Kubuntu?
[06:37] <quixogre> uga, maybe you can help me...when i run beryl from ALT+F2 it brings up a blank window, and i have to resrt X to fix it
[06:37] <denis__> why does it go offline all the time?
[06:37] <denis__> displayconfig-gtk
[06:37] <uga> Silsa: the tray icon isn't beryl. It's "beryl_manager"
[06:37] <uga> Silsa: if you have it installed
[06:37] <uga> it's a separate package
[06:37] <uzlytyyt> uhm which command should i use in terminal to create "resolv.conf"  ?
[06:37] <uga> quixogre: nothing like that here. The original versions did that for me iirc, but not for ages
[06:37] <Silsa> yea i have beryl manager installed although when i launch it by clicking on it in the system menu bar place it loads and nothing happens
[06:38] <uga> Silsa: try running it for 2 or 3 times
[06:38] <uga> iirc I had that happen before...
[06:38] <Silsa> uga: k
[06:38] <uga> you should see an icon on the system tray
[06:38] <uga> it may be hidden. Press the arrow to open the system tray if so
[06:39] <Silsa> Uga: Ok, after the 3rd time of running it I see it in the system tray but now the 3D Cube stopped working heh
[06:39] <uzlytyyt> uhm can anyone help me out with the  resolv.conf issue in kubuntu?
[06:40] <uga> Silsa: right click on the emerald icon and select your options
[06:40] <uga> Silsa: "select window manager"
[06:40] <uga> and set beryl
[06:40] <Silsa> Uga: Ok, the window manager changed to KWin by default, I set it to Beryl again and now everything is good. Thanks much for the help
[06:40] <denis__> hm is there a german irc channel for kubuntu?
[06:40] <uga> np
[06:41] <Silsa> dang, kde is so much cooler than gnome wtf
[06:41] <NickPresta> denis__, try #kubuntu-de
[06:42] <denis__> thx
[06:42] <deviance> How can I find out if im on 32 or 64 bit
[06:42] <deviance> ?
[06:45] <Bleep> hello
[06:46] <uga> deviance: "uname -a"
[06:46] <Bleep> when  i try to start kppp in Kubuntu it says im missing the "resolv.conf" file... so what should i do
[06:46] <uga> if you are on 64 bit, it'd show "x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[06:46] <deviance> Linux tim-desktop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:47] <deviance> Nope
[06:47] <uga> Bleep: that's strange. You should definetely have one. Check /etc/resolv.conf   Is it not there?
[06:47] <uga> deviance: you're on 32 bit version then
[06:47] <Bleep> no its not there
[06:47] <deviance> Thanks
[06:48] <uga> Bleep: maybe just create one. It's meant to contain a nameserver list. But being it empty won't harm either
[06:48] <uga> Bleep: create it with permissions: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[06:48] <Silsa> nickpresta: Thx for ur help btw
[06:48] <uga> ie, only writeable for root
[06:48] <quixogre> gah. tried starting beryl, ended up with plain white screen again...could it have something to do with my video card?
[06:48] <Bleep> uh... chmod ?
[06:48] <quixogre> it works fine on my laptop, just not on my PC
[06:49] <deviance> Mine just contains
[06:49] <deviance> search Belkin
[06:49] <deviance> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[06:49] <JimmyDee> bleep sudo nano /etc/resolve.conf
[06:49] <Bleep> ah ty
[06:49] <quixogre> !offtopic
[06:49] <JimmyDee> !bot
[06:49] <uga> Bleep: yes. If you, like me, don't like "calculating numbers", remember this. It's easy.  u=user, g=group, o=others.   chmod u+rw foo. chmod g+r foo. chmod g-w foo...
[06:50] <BluesKaj> !gutsy
[06:50] <uga> Bleep: +r gives read permissions, +w, write permissions, +x execute permissions. -r, removes read permissions... etc
[06:50] <deviance> Bot is down everyone
[06:51] <Bleep> lol ty
[06:51] <Tm_T> bot is up
[06:51] <ugabot> BluesKaj: gutsy is unstable. Don't use it! =)
[06:51] <JimmyDee> now you tell us uga
[06:51] <kuga> arf. doesn't change my nick again
[06:51] <uga> phew =)
[06:52] <quixogre> im gonna pretend im bot today...someone ask a stupid question
[06:52] <JimmyDee> !anything
[06:52] <Tm_T> quixogre: should I help you out?
[06:52] <Silsa> quixogre: What is a computer?
[06:52] <deviance> Guys, offtopic?
[06:52] <uga> !where to find best single geek gals
[06:52] <Tm_T> exavtly
[06:53] <quixogre> ARGHHH! cant..compute...going offline
[06:53] <uga> Silsa: he said stupid questions
[06:53] <Tm_T> listen everybody, if you like to fool around, #kubuntu-offtopic is free for that
[06:53] <uga> Silsa: =)
[06:53] <quixogre> sorry Tm_T...attention deficit here. hard to stay on-topic all the time
[06:54] <Tm_T> I know
[06:54] <Tm_T> and slight offtopicness in time to time isnt bad
[06:54] <Tm_T> but, too much is too much
[06:54] <Tm_T> ubotu: welcome
[06:54] <quixogre> !hi |ubotu
[06:54] <Bleep> ive configured adsl through wizard... but why is the "connect" button  grayed out?
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <NickPresta> Bleep, which wizard?
[06:55] <Bleep> kppp
[06:55] <ubotu> ubotu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:55] <Beyer> Lolol
[06:55] <quixogre> hehe i think i just put ubotu into an infinite loop....
[06:55] <Tm_T> Beyer: adsl and kppp doesnt match in my brains
[06:55] <ftz> Hey are there any theme's available for Evolution?
[06:56] <Tm_T> ftz: gtk that is
[06:56] <ftz> what about icons?
[06:56] <Beyer> Tm_T: I think you ment Bleep
[06:56] <Bleep> uh... should i configure adsl only in Knetworkmagager?
[06:57] <BluesKaj> hmm , wonder if there 's an editable startup file in gutsy , like the one in feisty ?
[06:57] <Tm_T> Beyer: yes, sorry ;)
[06:57] <Tm_T> Bleep: yes
[06:57] <Bleep> ah ty
[06:57] <Tm_T> Bleep: kppp is for dialup
[06:57] <Beyer> I have a question, how can I run steam, when it's meant to be used with windows.
[06:57] <Bleep> doh :P
[06:57] <Tm_T> !wine | Beyer
[06:57] <ubotu> Beyer: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:58] <knub> Tm_T: :P hi!
[06:58] <Beyer> Lets see
[06:58] <NickPresta> Bleep, Steam runs fairly well through Wine but I find that it will sometimes crash randomly when you get messages from your friends or you try to send messages to friends
[06:58] <quixogre> beyer, wines styill not quite strong enough to run heavy directX programs...better off using something like !virtualbox
[06:58] <NickPresta> oh sorry, Beyer
[06:59] <NickPresta> I used to play CS through Wine quite frequently. My frame rate was similar to that in Windows
[06:59] <Beyer> O__o my god..
[06:59] <Bleep> uhm where should i fill in the IP of my ADSLmodem? under Knetworkmanager?
[07:00] <Tm_T> Bleep: you should fill it because...
[07:00] <Beyer> !virtualbox | Beyer
[07:00] <Beyer> : (
[07:00] <Tm_T> Beyer: you can also use ubotu in pm
[07:00] <Tm_T> Beyer: as in /msg ubotu foofoo
[07:00] <uga> Bleep: usually the adsl configuration must be done in the adsl modem, not in the OS
[07:01] <quixogre> ubotu is misbehaving today. someone reboot it, and clear the logfiles
[07:01] <Beyer> Tm_T: Yeah, got it now :)
[07:01] <uga> Bleep: ie, the username, password, ip address, dns server list that your ISP might have provided goes into the modem
[07:01] <uga> Bleep: then the modem is usually set up to work as a dhcp server, so that the linux machine gets autoconfigured
[07:02] <Beyer> I've got wine installed already, thx to my friend :)
[07:02] <quixogre> Bleep: the ADSL modem should assign an ip address to your machine automatically
[07:02] <BluesKaj> stdin, ? bot needs attn
[07:02] <Beyer> Maybe I'll try with it first
[07:02] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: what?
[07:03] <Bleep> uhm ok so i should leave tcp/ip adress to automatic dhcp
[07:03] <quixogre> i need a breyl guru. any available?
[07:03] <quixogre> beryl*
[07:03] <BluesKaj> ubotu needs to be fixed
[07:03] <uga> Bleep: that's the usual way, yes
[07:03] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: fixed?
[07:03] <Tm_T> quixogre: in #ubuntu-effects
[07:03] <quixogre> Tm_T: thanks
[07:03] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[07:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:03] <BluesKaj> ok, good
[07:04] <maks> 
[07:04] <BluesKaj> sorry Tm_T, I thought the bot was on strike again :)
[07:04] <maks>    
[07:04] <maks> ?
[07:04] <pag> !ru | maks
[07:04] <ubotu> maks:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:04] <uga> !wb. where have you been
[07:04] <maks> 
[07:04] <Tm_T> uga: dont abuse
[07:05] <BluesKaj> !gutsy
[07:05] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <uga> Tm_T: ok, ok. It was a welcoming to whoever started it up again
[07:05] <uga> as I didn't know the owner
[07:05] <Tm_T> !away > savetheWorld_AFK
[07:05] <Beyer> So should I open the steam.exe with the wine? Because it gives me error
[07:06] <deviance> !wine
[07:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:06] <Beyer> -_-
[07:06] <NickPresta> Beyer, which error?
[07:07] <Beyer> "Steam.exe (main exception): Cannot open blob archive file: CMultiField..." and so on
[07:07] <kajtek> l
[07:07] <misu> h
[07:07] <v0taguz> Anybody use Baghira, I have a problem with gTK aplications this don't work good exist any solution for this ?
[07:07] <NickPresta> Beyer, if you download Steam from steampowered.com, it should give you an MSI file to install
[07:08] <uga> v0taguz: baghira is a kde style, not a gtk one
[07:08] <uga> so there's no much you can do
[07:08] <quixogre> !games
[07:08] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:08] <NickPresta> Beyer, actually, forget it. The MSI file doesn't work :)
[07:09] <v0taguz> But Firefox it's Works
[07:09] <v0taguz> and Pidgin Don't work .. :S
[07:09] <Beyer> Okey, thx again
[07:10] <bleep1> well im  back
[07:10] <quixogre> !hi |bleep1
[07:10] <ubotu> bleep1: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:10] <bleep1> so far ive managed to astablish a connection thru my eth0... so whats next?
[07:11] <uga> bleep1: what are you trying to do?
[07:11] <quixogre> bleep1:  try pinging an external Ip. i.e. ping www.google.com
[07:11] <NickPresta> Beyer, check this out: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554   Go down to the "Installing and Running Steam". Just download SteamInstall.msi from steampowered.com and then use `wine start SteamInstall.msi` and it should work fine. You don't need the browser part if you aren't going to use the built-in browser...
[07:11] <bleep1> how do i communicate with my modem to login
[07:12] <uga> login where. You mean remotely to your kubuntu machine?
[07:12] <bleep1> via eth0 connected to adslmodem
[07:12] <hellhound_> I am using kubuntu 7.04...how do I enable a module in the kernel... i am trying to enable cdcether
[07:12] <quixogre> bleep1: can you ping any external addresses?
[07:12] <uga> bleep1: yes, but you want to login... to where
[07:12] <uga> to google mail?
[07:12] <uga> to irc?
[07:12] <uga> to...
[07:13] <bleep1> my isp is 10.0.0.138 pc1
[07:13] <quixogre> hellhound_: apt-get install cdcether
[07:13] <uga> sorry, I picked up the conversation when you were setting up your connection
[07:13] <quixogre> hellhound_: sudo apt-get install cdcether
[07:13] <quixogre> sorry, forgot sudo the first time
[07:13] <hellhound_> quixogre: so if i need to enable "CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER" that command will work?
[07:14] <quixogre> hellhound, that will install the cdcether package on ubuntu...if its already installed, itwill say so
[07:14] <bleep1> well.. i dont know how to get the screen where you were asked to fill in username nad password for  internet connection
[07:14] <uga> bleep1: ah, you mean in the adsl modem?
[07:15] <bleep1> uhm yes
[07:15] <quixogre> bleep1: try using firefox, and go to the default gateway IP address. see if it allows a web interface
[07:15] <uga> bleep1: generally all of them have a default IP address and a web server. Open konqueror and http://192.168.1.1
[07:15] <uga> possibly that's the one
[07:16] <uga> try also 192.168.0.1, 192.168.2.1, possibly
[07:16] <bleep1> ill try ty
[07:16] <bleep1> lol i have to disconnect to try
[07:16] <Jahman> hi
[07:16] <quixogre> bleep1: ifconfig find the default gateway address for eth0. thats normally the adsl router
[07:16] <uga> ah, true
[07:16] <uga> bleep1: do what quixogre said
[07:17] <hellhound_> quixogre: i get "E: Couldn't find package cdcther"  also tryied to find a cdcether in adept manager and it was not there either
[07:17] <uga> else now that I notice, if you run dhclient, it should respond from the modem, too
[07:17] <quixogre> hellhound_: what exactly is cdcether anyhow?
[07:17] <Tm_T> !find ether
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: etherape, etherboot, etherboot-doc, ethereal, ethereal-common (and 3 others)
[07:17] <Tm_T> oh well
[07:19] <hellhound_> quixogre: it is required to allow sychronization.  I know where it is located in the kernel.  "Device Drivers->USB Support->USB Gadget Support->Ethernet Gadget" but I do not know how to get to the kernel config
[07:19] <Ibkanat> any have a hp dv6000
[07:19] <Ibkanat> anyone*
[07:20] <quixogre> any suggestions for a good legitimate app that does everything SATAN does? im looking for a tool to crack my password file, make sure my users arent using anything stupid
[07:20] <quixogre> hellhound_: gimme a sec, will check right quick
[07:21] <Ibkanat> and is there a way to recreate the grub boot loader without reinstalling kubuntu
[07:21] <thomas_> hi, anyone any idea on where I can find a decent howto on getting beryl working on an integrated intel graphics card
[07:21] <emilsedgh> Ibkanat: yes
[07:21] <Ibkanat> linky?
[07:21] <emilsedgh> thomas_: on intel should work like a charm :)
[07:21] <x_link> Hi all Kubuntu-users =)
[07:22] <x_link> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main Do I need any key for that repo?
[07:22] <emilsedgh> Ibkanat: search about manuals on grub-install
[07:22] <x_link> Just re-installed it.
[07:22] <quixogre> !beryl | thomas_
[07:22] <ubotu> thomas_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:22] <x_link> Just re-installed Kubuntu Feisty.
[07:22] <thomas_> emilsedgh: but I think my 3D hardware acceleration isn't working fine
[07:22] <quixogre> Ibkanat: try grub-install hd0
[07:22] <thomas_> thomas@linuxbook:~$ glxinfo
[07:22] <thomas_> name of display: :0.0
[07:23] <thomas_> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:23] <thomas_>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[07:23] <thomas_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[07:23] <thomas_>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[07:23] <thomas_>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
[07:23] <thomas_> thomas@linuxbook:~$
[07:23] <Ibkanat> thnks
[07:23] <x_link> Anybody?
[07:23] <emilsedgh> !pastebin | thomas_
[07:23] <ubotu> thomas_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:23] <quixogre> hellhound_: sorry mate. no luck finding the kernel package monitor...
[07:23] <thomas_> emilsedgh: ok, but any idea?
[07:23] <Ibkanat> anyone get kubuntu stable hp dv6000? and if so what flags. I am using noapic irqpoll nodebug
[07:24] <Ibkanat> noirqdebug
[07:24] <hellhound_> quixogre: what does that mean?  I just need to know how to configure the kernel
[07:24] <emilsedgh> thomas_: give me the output of beryl itself :)
[07:24] <quixogre> hell. hehe means "i dont know" ask again, see if any of the really smart people know. sorry
[07:24] <thomas_> yeah, I would love to but it crashes before I can get anything
[07:25] <thomas_> have to do ctrl + alt+backspace to get out
[07:25] <Bleep> im backagain
[07:25] <hellhound_> quixogre: no problem.  thank you
[07:25] <Bleep> If i type "10.0.0.138 pc1" in konqueror it says its connected and found no files.
[07:25] <hellhound_> does anyone know how to edit/configure the kernel in kubuntu 7.04?
[07:26] <quixogre> Bleep: thats YOUR IP address. go to a terminal window, and type "ifconfig"
[07:27] <quixogre> Bleep: look for "default gateway"
[07:27] <quixogre> bleep: on eth0
[07:27] <x_link> Could somebody please help me?
[07:28] <Bleep> uhm ok im disconnected now but i can follow... so if i can find that info what should i do with it?
[07:28] <x_link> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main I had this repo before to get KDE 3.5.7. I just re-installed my computer. So I don't have the key for it.
[07:28] <quixogre> bleep. type the default gateway IP adress into firefox/konqueror
[07:28] <x_link> Does anybody have it?
[07:28] <Bleep> ok and what should i see  after that?
[07:29] <x_link> quixogre: Hi, can you help me a bit?
[07:29] <quixogre> bleep. if things go well. will bring up your ADSL configuration
[07:29] <x_link> quixogre: If you have time over.
[07:29] <quixogre> x_link: sorry man. dont have the key for that
[07:29] <Bleep> ok ty ill try it now
[07:29] <quixogre> bleep shouldnt have to disconnect.
[07:30] <pag> x_link, http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg  <- that one?
[07:30] <x_link> quixogre: Okej.
[07:30] <x_link> pag: Okej, should I write that in my konsole?
[07:31] <quixogre> x_link: is there a reason you arent using the default kde package?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> Wifes trying to edit some wavs into ring tones under windows. Shes using AUdicty right now. anyone reccomend a more 'idiot friendly' tool? :) (yes i am NOT letting her read this message)
[07:32] <pag> x_link, that's just a key, not a command - you can add keys somewhere in adept I guess..
[07:32] <GUMMM> anyone know how to install a package through the terminal....the package is not in repositories, its on my ~/Desktop
[07:32] <quixogre> gumm is it a deb package?
[07:32] <GUMMM> tar.gz
[07:32] <quixogre> gumm whats full name of the file?
[07:32] <Silsa> How do I change what the deafault media players are for audio and video? I want VLC to be default for everything
[07:33] <x_link> pag: Humm okej.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> that means its not a package then. :)
[07:33] <x_link> quixogre: Is there KDE 3.5.7 in the repo?
[07:33] <GUMMM> boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar.gz
[07:33] <x_link> pag: I saved the file.
[07:33] <GUMMM> boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar.gz
[07:34] <x_link> GUMMM: ?
[07:34] <GUMMM> ^^^ how do i install the package boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar.gz   using the terminal. the package is on my ~/Desktop
[07:34] <pag> x_link, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php here are the instructions
[07:35] <quixogre> x_link: not sure. think the repos uses kde3. but unsure of exact build
[07:35] <GUMMM> wat do i do with this boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar.gz
[07:35] <pag> !patience | GUMMM
[07:35] <ubotu> GUMMM: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:36] <quixogre> GUMMM: gunzip boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar.gz
[07:36] <quixogre> GUMMM: then tar -xvf boomerang-linux-alpha-0.3.tar
[07:37] <quixogre> GUMMM: that will unzip it. then just cd into the directory, and vi README
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Then ya get to have fun compiling it. :)
[07:37] <GUMMM> wat does tar do?
[07:37] <bleep1> im back again
[07:37] <GUMMM> ok thanx
[07:38] <quixogre> gummm what you currently have is a "tarball" file...tar -xvf will untar it
[07:38] <x_link> quixogre: Okej, thanks anyway.
[07:38] <bleep1> i cant see "default gateway" after ifconfig
[07:38] <quixogre> bleep1: are you running kubuntu right now?
[07:39] <ismael_> I recovered a file from a damaged cd, but only got parts of it. I know I can find the exact file on amule. How do I tell amule to use the parts of the file that I already got?
[07:39] <bleep1> what i can see> inet addr:169.254.5.205 etc
[07:39] <bleep1> yes on my laptop
[07:40] <quixogre> bleep1: after inet line, what else does it show?
[07:40] <bleep1> bcast:169.254.255.255 mask:255.255.0.0
[07:41] <bleep1> link encap: local loopback
[07:41] <bleep1> inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask:255.0.0.0
[07:41] <quixogre> bleep1: okay. just a sec....
[07:42] <guerrab> hello
[07:42] <quixogre> bleep1. ping 169.254.1.1
[07:42] <quixogre> bleep1: do you get a response?
[07:43] <bleep1> network is  unreachable (im disconnected and chatting in XP)
[07:44] <bleep1> brb
[07:44] <quixogre> bleep1: can you use IRC from the laptop?
[07:47] <Ultran00b> Hey folks
[07:48] <bleep2> back again
[07:48] <tarball-z> wb bleep2
[07:48] <tarball-z> bleep2. can you connect to the internet through the ubuntu laptop?
[07:48] <mooper> how do I change my screen resolution?
[07:48] <bleep2> PING 169.254.1.1 (169.254.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data
[07:48] <tekstacy> is there a way to speed up boot or return from hibernate?
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[07:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <Dr_willis> return from hibernate should be very fast. if it works. :)
[07:49] <bleep2> From 169.254.5.205 icmp_seq=2  Destination Host Unreachable     ......repeating
[07:49] <tarball-z> bleep2: press CTRL+C
[07:49] <Dr_willis> as for boot speeds.. - well disable unneeded services is about all you can do.
[07:49] <kajtek__> has anybody connect to internet with Pentagram Hornrt (rt8185)?
[07:49] <Ultran00b> I was wondering where I can download and how I can install offline packages, without using adapt
[07:49] <tekstacy> it's a little faster then booting, but still slow.
[07:50] <Ultran00b> adept
[07:50] <bleep2> ok i stopped
[07:50] <tarball-z> Ultran00b: what packages are you trying to install?
[07:50] <Ultran00b> I want to play mp3 files, but dont have an internet connection on the laptop yet
[07:50] <Ultran00b> Was looking to install extracodeclib from xine
[07:50] <Silsa> Im having some probelms with my wireless connections. When I enable WEP encryption on my router, I simply can not conect (or any router with wep enabled). I know for sure the authentication key im using is entered in correctly but everytime it fails to connnect. If I disable security (turn wep off) I can connect to my router just fine. Any ideas?
[07:51] <tarball-z> bleep2: so thats not your gateway... just a sec
[07:52] <tarball-z> !wifi | silsa
[07:52] <ubotu> silsa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:52] <dthacker> bleep2: type sudo netstat -rn and tell us what the line says that starts with 0.0.0.0
[07:53] <tarball-z> dthacker, stop
[07:53] <tarball-z> bleep2 ignore that
[07:53] <dthacker> hm?
[07:53] <uga|away> uhm... stupid gutsy updates...
[07:54] <uga|away> anyone also sees that now after loading the kde desktop, the arrow becomes a cross, first?
[07:54] <peter_> can anyone help me out with sharing files between host and guest on virtual box
[07:54] <dthacker> tarball-z: could you explain why, please?
[07:54] <uga> only clicking somewhere the arrow becomes normal again
[07:54] <ismael_> I recovered a file from a damaged cd, but only got parts of it. I know I can find the exact file on amule. How do I tell amule to use the parts of the file that I already got?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> check the amule settings? amule isent torrent is it? So i dont think it can.
[07:55] <Dr_willis> !info amule
[07:55] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1266 kB, installed size 3452 kB
[07:55] <Dr_willis> unless theres a verify data option.
[07:55] <uga> peter_: didnt' work for me. It's meant to work by going into searching whole network, and selecting the machine, as if it wre a a smb share, but didn't quite manage, here
[07:55] <peter_> can anyone help me out with sharing files between host and guest on virtual box?:)
[07:55] <uga> peter_: a trick is to upload to a web and download from there, if it's not importating ;)
[07:55] <Dr_willis> peter_,  i always set up samba for my vmware machines to transfer stuff around
[07:55] <Dr_willis> or ssh :)
[07:55] <uga> Dr_willis: worked like charm for me in vmware
[07:56] <uga> not in vbox
[07:56] <tarball-z> dthacker, sorry, thought you were playing tricks...-rn option actually would work
[07:56] <peter_> yea i thought of that trick ...but it bothers me that i can't share it otherwise ..
[07:56] <NotSure> folks, i have installed kubuntu, but when i go back to gnome the desks titlebars are screwed up
[07:56] <tarball-z> bleep2: do what dthacker said. netstat -rn
[07:57] <dthacker> tarball-z: np.  :)
[07:57] <[IT] 4ngelus> hello
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: how so?
[07:57] <NotSure> i don't know
[07:57] <NotSure> but if i open a program on desk 1
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> what do you mean screwed up then?
[07:57] <tarball-z> notsure: "screwed up" in what way?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> uga,  now ya know why i use vmware and not virtualbox. :)
[07:57] <NotSure> then goto desk2
[07:57] <[IT] 4ngelus> is there any GUI to use loks encrypted disk?
[07:57] <estoves> How do i get pidgin to show buddy-icons in an chat window next to the typing box and not above the text window?
[07:57] <[IT] 4ngelus> luks*
[07:57] <NotSure> the titlebar for that program will show up on desk2
[07:57] <bleep3> back again
[07:58] <uga> Dr_willis: I've only used vbox a couple times yet
[07:58] <Silsa> I want to set up a fire wall that lets me know initially about all new connections and lets me choose whether or not to allow the connection. Can guarddog or whatever it is do this? If so, how do I get guarddog?
[07:58] <NotSure> if I open program P on desk1 and goto desk2, program P's titlebard shows up on desk2
[07:58] <nonewmsgs> ! mp3
[07:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: thats odd, are you running compiz?
[07:58] <uga> Dr_willis: and vmware is more troublesome generally. Especially when it comes to restarting the services, killing them, or building new modules
[07:58] <bleep3> it says: 16.254.0.0    0.0.0.0        255.255.0.0
[07:58] <Dr_willis> uga,  i normally test out live cd/isos - and vbox has given me huge issues with them. So its vmware for me for a while still.
[07:58] <NotSure> what is compiz?
[07:58] <uga> !compiz
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: fancy effects
[07:58] <gustavo> could anyone give me a invitation to demonoid? XD
[07:58] <bleep3> 0.0.0.0     0.0.0.0     0.0.0.0
[07:58] <NotSure> no
[07:58] <NotSure> no fancies
[07:58] <Dr_willis> uga,  i find vmware less trouble. :) but it deends on what you are doing i guess.
[07:58] <uga> ubotu: hello?
[07:58] <NotSure> regular stuff
[07:59] <uga> ubotu went dead?
[07:59] <NotSure> no beryl
[07:59] <[IT] 4ngelus> Silsa: guardog is protocol/port based
[07:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about went dead? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <bleep3> in the gatway column its all 0.0.0.0
[07:59] <uga> heh, he's having jetlag ;)
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: ah.. k. I really think this is a question for #ubuntu then as it seems to be a gnome problem.
[07:59] <NotSure> no no
[07:59] <NotSure> not just gnome
[07:59] <Silsa> 4ngelus: How exactly do I go about installing guarddog?
[07:59] <NotSure> cause it is after kde
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: does it happen in KDE?
[07:59] <NotSure> yes!
[07:59] <GUMMM> does linux come with a java compiler?
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: oh :)
[08:00] <NotSure> got it?
[08:00] <NotSure> the desks  are messed up
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: does it happen to EVERY app you start, or only a select few
[08:00] <hvontres|zzZZzz> window close
[08:00] <NotSure> every one!
[08:00] <Ultran00b> Can anyone tell me how to install a .deb file using terminal??
[08:00] <tarball-z> bleep okay. yer getting the default IP address that the system creates if it cant find a dhcp server...
[08:00] <NotSure> every application will have titlebar showing up on the desk it does not belong to
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: wow... let me google that.
[08:00] <[IT] 4ngelus> Silsa: what distro are you using?
[08:00] <NotSure> you will find it nosrednaekim
[08:01] <NotSure> because it is there
[08:01] <[IT] 4ngelus> Silsa: kubuntu of course :D
[08:01] <NotSure> i already googled
[08:01] <NotSure> and i thought there would be hot fix for it
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: what do you mean "title bar" does the whole window appear there?
[08:01] <NotSure> no nosrednaekim
[08:01] <Silsa> 4ngelus: Yea im using Kubuntu... kde and the like :)
[08:01] <NotSure> not the whole window
[08:01] <denis__> need a program
[08:01] <bleep3> normaly in XP i have to punch in  my tcp/ip settings >    10.0.0.150 and subnetmask 255.255.255.0
[08:01] <NotSure> just titlebar
[08:01] <[IT] 4ngelus> Silsa: open Konsole and type     sudo apt-get install guarddog
[08:01] <denis__> to burn secured dvd's
[08:01] <NotSure> it is on google
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: how do just title bars appear...can you make them into a window?
[08:02] <Silsa> 4ngelus: Ah k, cool. Thanks
[08:02] <denis__> is there any solution ?
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> like, are they "shaded"?
[08:02] <[IT] 4ngelus> can anyone help?
[08:02] <tarball-z> bleep3..WHERE do you enter that iunformation at in XP?
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: can you right click on the title bar and unshade it?
[08:02] <bleep3> LAN
[08:02] <bleep3> prperties
[08:03] <bleep3> tcp/ip
[08:03] <tarball-z> bleep3. so you have to manually configure your Ip address in XP every time?
[08:03] <bleep3> one time only
[08:03] <bast_> hi
[08:03] <[IT] 4ngelus> I have an encrypted disk (crypted with cryptsetup), do you know any gui in kubuntu wich asks for passphrase and mount the volume?
[08:03] <tarball-z> okay. in that case, enter that same info in the knetworkmanager
[08:03] <bast_> hello
[08:04] <bleep3> host name or ip adress = 10.0.0.138 pc1
[08:04] <tarball-z> bast_: hi
[08:05] <Dr_willis> Twiddling with some wav files - trying to make them small for ring tones. Converting to mono. but they are all 44100Hz - If i try to reduce the rate. They 'slow down' - any other way to make them smaller? quality dosent have to be that great.
[08:05] <ismael_> Dr_willis: what are you using to manipulate them?
[08:06] <NotSure> nosrednaekim, if i click on window titlebar on taskbar, i will get transferred to the desk which the window actually belongs to
[08:06] <tarball-z> NotSure: are the title bars appearing at the bottom of the screen, on the taskbar?
[08:06] <angasule> does kubuntu have a volatile repo?
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: i'll look into it
[08:06] <NotSure> tarball-z, yes
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> angasule: lol... read that article?
[08:07] <nosrednaekim> angasule: no, its doesn't afaik
[08:07] <NotSure> nosrednaekim, it is on google but i just don't have the URL right now
[08:07] <tarball-z> NotSure: think thats normal...so you can quickly switch apps, without firsty switching desktops
[08:07] <angasule> nosrednaekim: yeah, but I've liked volatile for a time, I use both kubuntu (desktop) and debian (craptop and server)
[08:07] <NotSure> tarball-z, it is not normal, window's titlebar is supposed to show up only on the desk to which it belongs, otherwise it creates mess
[08:08] <NotSure> the 'wrong' titlebars that belong to other desks appear to be flashing
[08:08] <tarball-z> NotSure: lol then mines hosed too....thought it was a feature, not a bug
[08:08] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, mp3 them
[08:08] <NotSure> tarball-z, it is a bug
[08:08] <NotSure> tarball-z,  i repeat, it is a bug, it is a result of messing up x
[08:09] <NotSure> there are google reports on it
[08:09] <tarball-z> blah. stupid Xwindows...i miss the days of straight terminal..
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> NotSure: could you get me one of these reports?
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> I might be able to find a fix
[08:09] <bast__> .
[08:09] <NotSure> nosrednaekim, i am looking for one right now
[08:10] <bleep1> back again
[08:11] <bleep1> when i try to setup tcp/ip manually and click ok it says:  default gateway adress invalid
[08:11] <dthacker> bleep1: what address are you using?
[08:11] <tarball-z> bleep1, what default gateway address do you put in?
[08:11] <bleep1> 10.0.0.150  subnetmask 255.255.255.0
[08:12] <bleep1> its empty
[08:12] <nonewmsgs> wtf will vlc media player play my mp3s but not amorak? i am using the nonfree codecs
[08:12] <tarball-z> bleep1. you HAVE to enter a default gateway...thats the IP address of your ADSL card
[08:13] <tarball-z> !mp3 | nonewmsgs
[08:13] <ubotu> nonewmsgs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:13] <nonewmsgs> tarball i have alraedy done that
[08:13] <uga> okay, new bug in gutsy kde. so annoying
[08:13] <nonewmsgs> and some programs act like they need their own codec anyway but i dont see anything in synaptic
[08:14] <tarball-z> nonewmsgs: not all players play mp3 formats
[08:14] <BluesKaj> nonewmsgs, for amarok mp3 capability sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[08:14] <tarball-z> !ru | bast
[08:14] <ubotu> bast:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:14] <RivaeAerya> Hi all. I used the script to mount my windows partition into Linux, but now i can't mount other stuff anymore, and the reason is "Line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad". Anyone?
[08:15] <tarball-z> rivae, paste line 9 in /etc/fstab into chat
[08:16] <bast__> tarball-z hi
[08:16] <tarball-z> bast__: priviet
[08:17] <bast__> :)))
[08:17] <BluesKaj> nonewmsgs, did you install libxine-extracodecs
[08:17] <tarball-z> RivaeAerya: what does line 9 in /etc/fstab say?
[08:17] <martinus> hi, I've encountered an issue with my sound-card, which again seems to affect kiba-dock. Have searched a bit, but ant find anything. The output from starting kiba in terminal is:
[08:17] <RivaeAerya> tarball-z: nevermind, solved it
[08:18] <dom> hi guys, I was wondering if anyone here has worked much with bugzilla?  i'm moving my installation from one server to another so I want to turn off bugzilla on the old server.  i vaguely remember some sort of config paramter you can set so when someone goes to the bugzilla site, it just says "this website is off" or something like that...
[08:18] <xenol> plz where can i change themes?
[08:18] <martinus>  ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL
[08:18] <martinus> kiba-volume amixer: Control info  error: No such file or directory
[08:18] <martinus> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:19] <martinus> xenol: which window manager are you using?
[08:19] <xenol> martinus: kdm themes
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> !kdm
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> !kdmthemes
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmthemes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <tarball-z> !kde
[08:20] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[08:20] <hellhound_> how do you upgrade the kernel in kubuntu... i want to install 2.6.22.9
[08:20] <bleep> back again
[08:21] <bleep> im giving up... its too blurry for me.  thnx for the help anyway tarbal
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu
[08:21] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[08:21] <martinus> xenol: have you visited www.kde-look.org ? A lot of good tips & tricks
[08:21] <tarball-z> bleep, sorry we couldnt get it running....
[08:21] <bleep> np
[08:21] <nonewmsgs> so you mean to tell me xine and amorak dont support mp3s
[08:21] <xenol> martinus: yes only want to install simple theme
[08:21] <bast__> tarball-z tnx
[08:21] <Silsa> How do I install Wine?
[08:21] <xenol> wait i post screen hope u will be able to tell me how can i get there
[08:21] <bleep> it could be specific because of my type of adsl
[08:22] <xenol> Silsa: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:22] <xenol> http://kubuntu-art.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=66144&file1=66144-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Full-Black
[08:22] <Silsa> xenol: Thx
[08:22] <bia> good evening, i need german help please
[08:23] <xenol> !germany
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about germany - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <xenol> !gr
[08:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:23] <xenol> !de
[08:23] <tarball-z> bleep sounds like ubuntu doesnt resolve your gateway. call your ISP and find out what the default gateway is, and that should fix the problem
[08:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:23] <bast__> I have come to Ru
[08:23] <bia> thanks
[08:23] <xenol> !ru
[08:23] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:23] <bleep> k thnx
[08:24] <bast__> .
[08:25] <uga> anyone running gutsy here? can you confirm if the process "import" starts up once you login into the kde session?
[08:25] <uga> with an up-to-date kde
[08:25] <uga> something got broken, an dI don't think it's my configs
[08:25] <bast_> Hi, I have a problem
[08:26] <tarball-z> bast_: whats the problem?
[08:26] <bast_> Minutes ...
[08:28] <hellhound_> i am trying to update my kernel following this site "http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html"   but I get an error when I run "sudo apt-get update"  the error is "E:  Type ''deb' is not known on line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> hellhound_: what does line 48 of that file say?
[08:31] <bast_> Today I have established to myself initng - all works...
[08:32] <hellhound_> nosrednaekim: 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted'
[08:32] <bast_> But the computer does not see network connection (i use ubuntu.help)
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> hellhound_: is it in quotes?
[08:33] <hellhound_> nosrednaekim: it is in single quotes
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> remove them.
[08:33] <deviance> Anyone here managed to get Compiz-fusion working on kubuntu? Mind telling me how not to loose the window decorations?
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> install emerald
[08:34] <deviance> I have
[08:34] <deviance> But emerald doesnt work
[08:34] <martinus> deviance: yep, remember to install emerald in addition to compiz
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> would it be possible for me to use the dapper version of k3b in a more recent version of kubuntu ?
[08:35] <deviance> I have
[08:35] <bast_> ... Perhaps, such questions cannot be set?
[08:35] <martinus> deviance: Then press alt + f2 and type: compiz --replace & emerald --replace
[08:36] <deviance> Hmm
[08:36] <martinus> deviance: default bit depth in xorg.conf also has to be set to 24
[08:36] <deviance> Nope, no window decoration
[08:36] <deviance> martinus: How can I check what its set to?
[08:37] <martinus> deviance: open a terminal and type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <xenol> please is there any way i can restore the original kubuntu theme?
[08:37] <martinus> deviance: be very carefyl as doing the wrong things in there can mess up your display
[08:38] <martinus> deviance: be very carefyl as doing the wrong things in there can mess up your display
[08:39] <deviance>   SubSection "Display"
[08:39] <deviance>     depth 24
[08:39] <martinus> deviance: there should be a line called DefaultDepth under Section "Screen"
[08:40] <nonewmsgs> do the repositories seem slow lately?
[08:41] <deviance> martinus: http://pastebin.ca/720809
[08:42] <xenol> plz how can i restore original kubuntu theme?
[08:42] <TheGateKeeper> would it be possible for me to use the dapper version of k3b in a more recent version of kubuntu ?
[08:42] <nonewmsgs> ok i think i found my problem.  how do i fix this:  skipping unreadable plugin directory /~/.xine/plugins
[08:42] <Dr_willis> xenol,  You have to reselect the original theme parts.  for some reason the Kubuntu guys dident save them as a 'theme file'
[08:43] <NotSure> nosrednaekim, here is the first one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=562020
[08:43] <Dr_willis> xenol,  you could perhaps make a new user, and see what theme parts they are using, and save it to a default theme. Then copy THAT over to your other users.
[08:43] <Dr_willis> or just play with the theme settings till ya get a setup you like
[08:43] <bast_> i use Kubuntu
[08:43] <xenol> Dr_willis: thx
[08:45] <martinus> deviance: hm, can you go to terminal and type "compiz --replace & emerald --replace" and post me the result?
[08:45] <deviance> martinus: They are already running, does it matter?
[08:46] <nonewmsgs> bluekays  i selected all the xine packages in synaptic
[08:47] <martinus> deviance: If they return any errors it shoud come up there, can you restart X and try to start them again?
[08:47] <deviance> A handler is already registered for the path starting with path[0]  = "org"
[08:47] <deviance> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[08:47] <nonewmsgs> i have even reinstalled it but nothing happens
[08:47] <deviance> Restart x and try again
[08:47] <deviance> ?
[08:48] <NotSure> nosrednaekim, here is another one http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333548
[08:48] <martinus> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:49] <deviance> Okaty
[08:49] <deviance> Okay*
[08:49] <deviance> what am I running again martinus?
[08:49] <deviance> compiz --replace & emerald --replace
[08:49] <deviance> ?
[08:51] <anand> i am using kubuntu on 64bit AMD turion, and want to use Gtalk. i have tried gaim and kopete but it's not working
[08:51] <anand> can anbody help me
[08:51] <deviance> martinus:
[08:51] <deviance> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[08:51] <deviance> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Info: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x5a002f2 to texture
[08:51] <Parkerw207> hey can someone help me with wireless ?
[08:51] <deviance> and (emerald:8358): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
[08:52] <martinus> deviance: yep, but I've found a thread that might be more useful here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550855&page=1
[08:52] <NotSure> hello, everybody! i have a problem!
[08:52] <NotSure> after installing kde
[08:52] <Parkerw207> i am wanting to install kubuntu 6.06.1 lts , it detects my wifi and i can scan for network but i cant connect to any
[08:52] <NotSure> if i open a window in one workspace
[08:52] <Parkerw207> even unsecured ones
[08:52] <NotSure> it will show up on another one
[08:52] <NotSure> as a flashing titlebar
[08:52] <martinus> deviance: It seems to be the same problem as well
[08:52] <xababax> hello everybody
[08:52] <NotSure> if this is not a bug, how can i fix it?
[08:53] <xababax> i need a help
[08:53] <NotSure> it is extremely annoying
[08:53] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[08:53] <bast_> xababax hi
[08:53] <anand> gtalk problem ? anyone help
[08:53] <martinus> deviance: and it adresses common install issues with compiz
[08:53] <Parkerw207> !wifi
[08:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:53] <NotSure> if i open program P on workspace1 and goto workspace2, then P's titlebar will show up as flashing on the taskbar of workspace2
[08:53] <xababax> how do Iput translations file in programs?
[08:53] <dudeicles> anyone here ever use Planeshift?
[08:54] <NotSure> anybody has any idea what to do with this?
[08:54] <deviance> Thanks martinus Ill take a look
[08:54] <dudeicles> !planeshift
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <dudeicles> !bin
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <anand> kopete does'nt congigure my gtalk ? anyone has idea
[08:54] <NotSure> if i open program P on workspace1 and goto workspace2, then P's titlebar will show up as flashing on the taskbar of workspace2
[08:55] <NotSure> even though the program does not do anything
[08:55] <NotSure> i mean no alert
[08:55] <NotSure> how can i fix it?
[08:56] <martinus> deviance: np
[08:56] <NotSure> does anybody know what I am talking about? here is one report on it http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333548
[08:57] <Parkerw207> can someone please help me?
[08:57] <Parkerw207> i need help with my wireless
[08:57] <Parkerw207> i can search for networks and see them , but catn connect to any
[08:58] <NotSure> i don't get it, is this a bug or am I just going crazy? if i open program P on workspace1 and goto workspace2, then P's titlebar will show up as flashing on the taskbar of workspace2. The program does not do anything significant like alert, there is no reason for it to flash
[08:59] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[08:59] <martinus> NotSure: Which program is it?
[08:59] <NotSure> like right now it is krusader
[09:00] <martinus> NotSure: It happens to different programs?
[09:00] <NotSure> yeah
[09:00] <Parkerw207> could someone please help me sort this out?
[09:01] <NotSure> if i open one program and don't minimize it, and then goto another workspace, i will see that program's titlebar flashing on new workspace
[09:01] <NotSure> for no reason
[09:01] <uga> NotSure: must be only in gnome
[09:01] <uga> doesn't happen in KDE
[09:01] <NotSure> i guess but only after kde
[09:02] <uga> after kde?
[09:02] <uga> you mean after installing?
[09:02] <NotSure> yeah
[09:02] <martinus> Parkerw207: Do you use KDE or Gnome?
[09:02] <uga> NotSure: that doesn't make much sense... unless kde desktop installed strange stuff unrelated to kde
[09:02] <Parkerw207> kde
[09:03] <Parkerw207> i am using kubuntu 6.06.1 lts
[09:03] <NotSure> i don't know, but i got some google results on it
[09:03] <NotSure> wait
[09:03] <NotSure> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/138830
[09:03] <NotSure> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333548
[09:04] <martinus> Parkerw207: Ok, I've found that I sometimes have to define the key type to ASCII instead of just leaving it as wpa
[09:04] <uga> NotSure: that seems related to the way gnome works with tasks rather than kde
[09:04] <Parkerw207> no i mean i cant even connect to open routers with no encryption
[09:05] <Parkerw207> i can scan for networks and see them fine
[09:05] <uga> NotSure: it shows tasks from other desktops, yet alt-tab doesn't switch to them. That's broken
[09:05] <NotSure> right!
[09:05] <NotSure> like xchat will actually flash when somebody posts somethign for me
[09:05] <NotSure> and no matter the current workspace
[09:05] <uga> NotSure: there's an option in kde... kcontrol->desktop->taskbar->"show windows from all deskstops"
[09:05] <NotSure> it will still show up
[09:06] <uga> see if you have it checked
[09:06] <uga> unless the kde setting alters gnome one too...
[09:06] <Parkerw207> it confuses me :S
[09:06] <NotSure> yeah, i believe i have been to everything available though common option interfaces
[09:06] <NotSure> do you have that too?
[09:06] <NotSure> i have 5 workspaces
[09:06] <uga> NotSure: if you enable show all tasks, indeed alt
[09:06] <uga> +tab won't switch to other desktop ones
[09:06] <uga> even in kde
[09:07] <NotSure> ok, if whatever program if flashing, i don't want this program to show up on another workspace
[09:08] <Parkerw207> any help would be appreciated , maybe its a bug ?
[09:08] <martinus> Parkerw207: Hm, weird, which version are you running?
[09:08] <martinus> of kubuntu i mean
[09:08] <ari_> hi. i'm having a little problem. i have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed on my pc and when i boot on ubuntu, i easily get to see the things i have on my kubuntu partition but when i boot on kubuntu, i can't access the files on the other disk. could anyone help me figure this out please?
[09:08] <NotSure> anybody with me on this except for uga?
[09:09] <NotSure> flashing programs from other workspaces show up on workspaces they are not supposed to show up on
[09:09] <uga> why except for uga =)
[09:09] <gecko__> what is the command to change the channel
[09:09] <gecko__> ?
[09:09] <NotSure> uga you are good, but others may want to help out too
[09:09] <uga> NotSure: if they are not supposed to show up, why do you enable the taskbar to shot them ;))
[09:09] <uga> s/shot/show
[09:09] <uga> I'd rather not see tasks
[09:09] <uga> actually my second desktop doesn't show first desktop tasks
[09:10] <NotSure> uga, so how do i do?
[09:10] <Parkerw207> can someone please help with my wifi problem ? no one is answering :(
[09:10] <gecko__> uga: what is the command to change the channel?
[09:10] <NotSure> uga, i mean what?
[09:10] <uga> NotSure: I hope that's optional in gnome?
[09:10] <uga> gecko__: /join #channel
[09:10] <uga> gecko__: for switching, depends on what you use
[09:10] <NotSure> uga, see here is the problem, it is like in those companies where they tell you to go to another department if they don't want to bother with you
[09:10] <NotSure> gnome is gnome, I understand
[09:11] <NotSure> but KDE is what make this thing work that way
[09:11] <uga> NotSure: no, not that
[09:11] <uga> NotSure: I'm completely sure gnome shows all those tasks from other desktops without installing kde
[09:11] <uga> and kde cannot alter how gnome works. or shouldn't
[09:11] <NotSure> no, it works fine w/o KDE
[09:11] <martinus> Parkerw207: Hm, weird, which version of kubuntu are you running?
[09:11] <luca_> hi everyone
[09:11] <Parkerw207> 6.06.1 lts
[09:12] <uga> NotSure: would you be able to figure out what option changed when kde was installed?
[09:12] <emilsedgh> Parkerw207: whats your problem?
[09:12] <NotSure> i have no clue
[09:12] <Parkerw207> ok my probelm is
[09:12] <uga> NotSure: ie, I can't tell what kde can do to break gnome's behavior
[09:12] <emilsedgh> oh sorry others are doing
[09:12] <luca_> does someone know where the knetworkmanager configuration files are stored?
[09:12] <Parkerw207> when i try to configure my wifi
[09:12] <Parkerw207> i can see the wifi networks
[09:12] <NotSure> i mean, there are reports on this, i am not crazy
[09:12] <Parkerw207> but cant connect to any , even unsecured ones
[09:12] <uga> NotSure: you could ask in #kde-devel. People like the kwin maintainer might kjnow
[09:12] <NotSure> krusader is especially guilty of it
[09:12] <uga> NotSure: ossi, iirc
[09:12] <NotSure> ?
[09:13] <NotSure> ossi, iirc?
[09:13] <NotSure> uga, where should i go?
[09:13] <uga> NotSure: iirc == if I remember correctly
[09:13] <uga> ossi is the nick ;)
[09:13] <NotSure> ossi?
[09:13] <NotSure> channel?
[09:13] <uga> #kde-devel
[09:13] <NotSure> ok
[09:13] <uga> others might know too, but iirc he's the kwin maintainer
[09:13] <uga> if he doesn't know, nobody will =)
[09:13] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[09:14] <uga> NotSure: but... maybe the metacity maintainer can tell too
[09:14] <martinus> Parkerw207: do you get any error msg?
[09:14] <Parkerw207> ermm , nope just says "connection failes"
[09:14] <uga> NotSure: you'll be more welcome there with this question ;)
[09:14] <Parkerw207> failed"
[09:15] <Parkerw207> i was using the wifi GUI tool
[09:15] <martinus> Parkerw207: try to reinstall knetworkmanager
[09:15] <martinus> in adept
[09:15] <Parkerw207> can i do that without being connected to the net ?
[09:15] <martinus> can you use a cable?
[09:16] <Parkerw207> yes i suppose , is it a bug then ?
[09:17] <martinus> maybe, it's worth a try at least - versions changes fast
[09:17] <ari_> hi. i'm having a little problem. i have both ubuntu and kubuntu installed on my pc and when i boot on ubuntu, i easily get to see the things i have on my kubuntu partition but when i boot on kubuntu, i can't access the files on the other disk. could anyone help me figure this out please?
[09:18] <luca_> hi everyone
[09:18] <luca_> I cannot use knetworkmanager anymore
[09:21] <d0zer> i've tried to install the nvidia-glx package but X still doesnt work drivers.. can someone please help me ?
[09:22] <uga> d0zer: you can try uninstalling nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-* and install the nvidia binary drivers provided in nvidia.com
[09:22] <uga> worked fine here and for others
[09:22] <d0zer> ok im trying
[09:23] <Dr_willis> what video card are ya using d0zer ?
[09:24] <d0zer> Dr_willis: 7800 gtx
[09:24] <Dr_willis> heh.
[09:24] <d0zer> sup?
[09:24] <uga> Dr_willis: why so, doesn't it work? 8500 here
[09:24] <Dr_willis> well thers some issues i hear with the 8800 and the  nvidia drivers in the repos
[09:25] <Dr_willis> they do work fine in gutsy with the newer packages. :)
[09:25] <uga> gutsy didn't work here at all
[09:25] <Dr_willis> or course I am now Gutsy on all box's so cant give much advice on the 8800 and feisty
[09:25] <uga> maybe after some upgrade, but I don't dare anymore
[09:25] <uga> lrm is banned on this box
[09:25] <Dr_willis> I had issues a few weeks ago. - the beta is working fine so far.. quite a few updates every day however.
[09:26] <d0zer> uga: can you point me to the binary drivers? i can only find the normal drivers on nvidia.com
[09:26] <uga> d0zer: the drivers are all binary
[09:27] <uga> d0zer: what are you using. kubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[09:27] <d0zer> okay tried them already.. just not with the restricted modules uninstalled
[09:27] <d0zer> 32bit
[09:27] <uga> oh, so you installed them
[09:28] <d0zer> i've tried it yes.. but it doesnt work
[09:28] <uga> d0zer: if you install the nvidia drivers and not uninstall restricted modules, when you reboot the restricted modules are used
[09:28] <d0zer> it compiled the kernel module alright
[09:28] <uga> did you test restarting the desktop (/etc/initd.d/kdm restart) after installing the nvidia binary?
[09:28] <d0zer> exactly.. it worked until reboot
[09:28] <uga> it should load the nvidia one
[09:28] <uga> d0zer: okay then. You just need to uninstall the restricted modules
[09:28] <uga> and should work fine
[09:28] <d0zer> yep.. it freezes when i set driver to "nvidia"
[09:29] <d0zer> ill try it thx..
[09:29] <uga> d0zer: you aren't using any other restricted module, right?
[09:29] <uga> not sure what else the linux-restricted modules provide...
[09:29] <d0zer> i dont think so.. its a fresh install of kubuntu
[09:29] <uga> okay, so remove everything, reboot and have fun
[09:30] <uga> oh
[09:30] <uga> d0zer: you might have to reinstall the nvidia installer
[09:30] <d0zer> ill do that
[09:30] <uga> uninstalling the kubuntu packs may uninstall parts that the nvidia installer had overwritten
[09:31] <NotSure> i believe now that basically my problem is not a bug, but I want to disable this feature, i.e. so that flashing windows don't just show up in other workspaces
[09:32] <uga> NotSure: you spoke to ossi?
[09:33] <uga> or know why it only happens after installing kde?
[09:33] <NotSure> ossi is not there
[09:34] <NotSure> maybe i am wrong but IF this thing is a feature it is extremely annoying
[09:34] <NotSure> krusader is program i use all the time
[09:34] <NotSure> and its titlebar flashes all the time
[09:34] <NotSure> and i don't want it showing up in other workspaces
[09:34] <NotSure> or desks, because it drives me crazy
[09:35] <NotSure> so i want to disable this feature
[09:35] <NotSure> not from krusader
[09:35] <NotSure> but from the X environment, because other applications are guilty of it too
[09:35] <hellhound_> how do you edit the kernel config?
[09:38] <jhutchins> hellhound_: First you READ about kernel builds, then you follow the instructions.
[09:38] <jhutchins> hellhound_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:40] <quixogre> !beryl
[09:40] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:40] <NotSure> ok, folks, when a window titlebar flashes, the window will show up in all workspaces, how can i disable this thing?
[09:40] <jhutchins> NotSure: Are you running KDE or Beryl?
[09:41] <NotSure> KDE
[09:41] <uga> jhutchins: good questoin =)
[09:41] <uga> as I run both ;)
[09:41] <NotSure> i use krusader all the time and it 'flashes' all the time (the titlebar is flashing). when i switch workspace, it shows up there too
[09:42] <ismakun> Hello
[09:42] <quixogre> okay. asking in here, because noones responding to ANYTHING in #ubuntu-effects: when i run beryl, i get a plain white screen, with mouse ability. however, mouse cant left or right click, and no icons show up. anyone familiar with this problem?
[09:43] <uga> I believe the blinking thing was optional...
[09:43] <NotSure> uga, yeah, but how to disable is my question...
[09:43] <mhb> hi, is it possible to do some funky stuff with "apt-get" upgrades? Like "upgrade everything that depends on kubuntu-desktop, but nothing else"?
[09:43] <adminn> ok now what should I do to get my screensavers xgl workin?
[09:43] <uga> NotSure: I'm looking for it
[09:43] <adminn> < is looking for advice
[09:43] <NotSure> uga, ok, i will be here, stay in touch
[09:44] <quixogre> mhb which windows manager you using?
[09:45] <swiff> how do I clear out the cache for the video card driver to redue?
[09:45] <mhb> quixogre: I use KDE 3 mostly, why?
[09:45] <MidMark> hi someone can check if in Adept for Feisty is present the option "Pre-released updates" as written in this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[09:45] <quixogre> mhb try using adept-manager...it will let you set which apps to update i believe
[09:46] <xenol> is it possible to have ubuntu-desktop installed too?
[09:46] <quixogre> xenol. yes. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <uga> NotSure: wow, this is gonna buy me two phone numbers of your sisters =)
[09:46] <uga> hard one to find =)
[09:47] <us3r_NA> hi
[09:47] <uga> NotSure: run kcontrol
[09:47] <NotSure> ok uga, ok ... this is hot
[09:47] <uga> NotSure: sound & multimedia
[09:48] <xenol> quixogre:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39183/
[09:48] <uga> (yeah, I know, it's not sound but it's there =))
[09:48] <uga> NotSure: system notifications
[09:48] <NotSure> ok
[09:48] <NotSure> done
[09:48] <pierre__> i accidently removed "qt-language-selector" from my system, and i try to apt-get it back but it isnt in the repositories.. what should i do?
[09:48] <NotSure> wow, cool :>
[09:48] <uga> NotSure: On teh top, select event source: the kde window manager
[09:48] <uga> event: there are two you'll be interested in
[09:49] <NotSure> done
[09:49] <NotSure> then what?
[09:49] <swiff> so guys how do I clear out the vid driver cache to reinstall it?
[09:49] <uga> "A window  on an _inactive_ virtual desktop demands attention"
[09:49] <xenol> why i cant install ubuntu-desktop package? i get this in terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39183/
[09:49] <uga> NotSure: ^^ that's the one you need
[09:49] <LjL> pierre__: it's called language-selector-qt
[09:49] <uga> NotSure: select that one. it will affect to other desktops only (not current one)
[09:49] <uga> NotSure: select "Advanced>>" on bottom
[09:49] <us3r_NA> i've been having this problem with any debian based distros: when booting (live or install) into X all i see is a black screen that slowly burns white from around the edges.  running hp pav. tx 1120us
[09:50] <uga> NotSure: and uncheck "mark taskbar entry"
[09:50] <pierre__> LjL: wow thanks... how come i have to install that pesky adept updater in order to install it though?
[09:50] <NotSure> wait, i lost you
[09:50] <us3r_NA> i think this is a result of the like weird tablet type thing i've got goin on
[09:50] <NotSure> you said ^^ that is the one you need
[09:50] <NotSure> which one is that ?
[09:50] <quixogre> xenol. im running both gnome and kde(not at same time) but i installed gnome(ubuntu) first
[09:50] <uga> NotSure: check the previous line
[09:50] <uga> I didn't put your nick
[09:51] <uga> NotSure: [21:49]  <uga> "A window  on an _inactive_ virtual desktop demands attention"
[09:51] <uga> that's the event you need to select
[09:51] <Doctor_Nick> how do i restart the sound system?
[09:51] <LjL> pierre__, i have no idea
[09:51] <NotSure> ok
[09:52] <swiff> how to fix a messed up video card driver install?
[09:52] <NotSure> then hit advanced
[09:52] <LjL> pierre__, it does depend on adept, which i suppose in turn depends on the updater.
[09:52] <LjL> what's wrong with the updater?
[09:52] <uga> NotSure: hit advanced, and uncheck "mark taskbar entry"
[09:52] <swiff> please help me guys before I have to go out<<<<<<<<<
[09:52] <uga> NotSure: you're done
[09:52] <NotSure> then what?
[09:52] <NotSure> oh! i see, sorry
[09:52] <pierre__> LjL: one time it broke my system so i dont want to use it again
[09:52] <NotSure> mark taskbar entry
[09:52] <uga> swiff: you'll have to give us a better description on what "messed up" means
[09:53] <uga> and what your gfx card is
[09:53] <LjL> pierre__: well i don't think i've ever used it (though i doubt it was the updater that broke your systerm, but anyway...)
[09:53] <LjL> pierre__, just don't click on the icon and you'll be fine. you aren't *forced* to use it :)
[09:53] <quixogre> okay. asking in here, because noones responding to ANYTHING in #ubuntu-effects: when i run beryl, i get a plain white screen, with mouse ability. however, mouse cant left or right click, and no icons show up. anyone familiar with this problem?
[09:53] <LjL> it just reminds you of updates. you can use apt-get fine to 'get* them
[09:53] <uga> NotSure: that will do for kde. No idea fro gnome
[09:53] <swiff> radeon saphire x800 gto ... and the problem is I did the code to install it but my lattice screensaver isnt working
[09:53] <NotSure> but what do i do now?
[09:53] <uga> NotSure: nothing. It's fixed for you
[09:54] <BluesKaj> quixogre, ati card ?
[09:54] <uga> NotSure: tasks from another desktop won't blink on your current desktop
[09:54] <swiff> sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <swiff> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[09:54] <swiff> see that
[09:54] <quixogre> BluesKaj: Geforce 8600
[09:54] <uga> NotSure: at least in kde
[09:54] <swiff> uga you see that?
[09:54] <PolitikerNEU> I know it's a little bit of a stupid question, but: How can I edit my 	personal	 information (about me?) - In kontact, I can add information about other people, but where can I add information about myself?
[09:54] <swiff> uga:.
[09:54] <NotSure> OK!!! DONE!! IT WORKS, UGA HURAA!
[09:55] <uga> swiff: uhm... somebody else must know about ati drivers. always had nvidia here
[09:55] <uga> !ati
[09:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <xenol> quixogre:  if u using gnome u have choice to open kde programs too right?
[09:56] <quixogre> xenol. some.
[09:56] <uga> swiff: I know the restricted modules don't work for me in here and I had to install nvidia.com drivers but I can't tell about ATI, sorry
[09:56] <NotSure> i lied, i run gnome, i am as-hole that way, i am sorry, but gnome folks don't want to help once they hear 'krusader' or 'kde'. They are like in AT&T, if you got to wrong department, then sorry, we can't help you.
[09:56] <uga> swiff: using the non-restriced ones doesnt' work for your radeon?
[09:56] <quixogre> NotSure: hehe if it works....
[09:57] <uga> NotSure: as I told you, those settings should NOT address the gnome issue
[09:57] <NotSure> quixogre, it does
[09:57] <uga> NotSure: and I kenw you were running gnome
[09:57] <NotSure> yes they do!
[09:57] <uga> so don't act like a jerk
[09:57] <swiff> uga: nope
[09:57] <NotSure> because i told you, kde is messing up gnome!
[09:57] <uga> somebody please kickban NotSure
[09:57] <uga> for providing wrong info
[09:58] <BluesKaj> we're not worried about ati uga.. quixogre's card is nvidia , so I'm outta my league there since I use an ati and no eye candy ...but when I tried beryl I got the same white scrn
[09:58] <uga> misleading one and I was digging bugs
[09:58] <quixogre> lol @ uga
[09:58] <uga> quixogre: not joking
[09:58] <uga> he's made me waste lots of time trying to figure out what's in common between gnome and kde
[09:59] <uga> for once he's on my ignore list
[09:59] <quixogre> uga, you fixed his problem... should be proud of yourself.
[09:59] <uga> quixogre: no, I hate arses
[09:59] <uga> I never refused helping him out even if he were running gnome
[09:59] <BluesKaj> he can run both kde or gnome and can use the apps in either desktop
[09:59] <uga> quixogre: but he provided misleading info. And that deserves punishing
[09:59] <swiff> how to remove restricted_manager and keep my old xorg.conf?
[09:59] <alejandro> why we dont have firefox 2.0.0.7
[09:59] <alejandro> ?
[10:00] <quixogre> uga, if he wants to run gnome instead of KDE we should help him...but speak slower you know how those gnome folks are
[10:00] <groke> i
[10:00] <uga> quixogre: running gnome is fine. BUT providing us with info like "installing kde desktop broke gnome" for helpign him out, isn't
[10:00] <BluesKaj> alejandro, i guess FF 2007 isn't ready for linux yet
[10:00] <uga> quixogre: he just told us so so, and mislead me
[10:01] <NickPresta> alejandro, because 2.0.0.7 fixes a Windows related problem caused due to Quicktime. I assume we don't need 2.0.0.7
[10:01] <swiff> what about me I want to uninstall restricted manager for ati??????
[10:01] <uga> quixogre: what if he filed the same bugreport fro kubuntu?
[10:01] <quixogre> uga, i quit trying to help him when he insisted his problem was a bug, and NOT a feature...hehe i LIKE being able to switch apps without changing desktops first
[10:01] <alejandro> thanks BluesKaj
[10:01] <DropKickMurpheys> Meh, How do i install java on an AMD64 using the 7.04 Feisty 64bit edition
[10:01] <NickPresta> alejandro, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#firefox2.0.0.7
[10:02] <quixogre> uga, they'd laugh at him. he's complaining about a feature(one he doesnt like) they'd tell him it wasnt a bug, and move on
[10:02] <uga> NotSure: you're not welcome
[10:02] <DropKickMurpheys> I rarely use Ubuntu, but i finnaly got tired of MS B.S.
[10:02] <xenol_> quixogre:  plz when u install gnome do u have options to choose KDe software in gnome>
[10:02] <NotSure> uga, sorry
[10:02] <NotSure> i really apologize
[10:02] <NotSure> my bug reports were not lie
[10:02] <swiff> how should I get rid of (restricted_Manager) ATI?
[10:02] <NotSure> but i got tired of lies from other folks
[10:02] <quixogre> xenol. when i run gnome, it shows some of my kde apps, not all of them.
[10:03] <NotSure> you were the only one who actually helped
[10:03] <NotSure> all others would bs me about kde vs gnome
[10:03] <xenol_> quixogre:  can u disable that?
[10:03] <NotSure> just like AT&T people do
[10:03] <NotSure> or Verizon
[10:03] <NotSure> they are all like that
[10:03] <NotSure> uga, i really appreciate your help
[10:03] <quixogre> xenol_:  disable what? kde functions in gnome?
[10:03] <xenol_> quixogre:  y
[10:03] <NotSure> but it was a necessary prevarication
[10:03] <quixogre> NotSure: think ugas got you on ignore.
[10:04] <swiff> anyone know how to uninstall restrictedmanager the ATI thing?????
[10:04] <NotSure> so that you would be willing to help me
[10:04] <ScorpKing> hi guys. can someone explain to me what the defference is between kdevelop and qt-developer. is it just another frontend? will qt tutorials work in kdevelop? i'm learning c++ and it's just a little confusing at the moment.
[10:04] <NickPresta> swiff, `sudo apt-get remove restricted-manager` ?
[10:04] <NotSure> quixogre, i really don't want to sound like a bad guy
[10:04] <swiff> ty Nick :D
[10:04] <DropKickMurpheys> Can anyone help me install Java client on an AMD64 machine running unbuntu 7.04 feisy Fawn 64-bit edition please?
[10:04] <emilsedgh> ScorpKing: QT is just QT, KDE is KDE + QT :)
[10:05] <ScorpKing> ah, i see. thanks emilsedgh
[10:05] <DropKickMurpheys> and flash
[10:05] <quixogre> DropKickMurpheys: try sudo apt-get install java?
[10:05] <DropKickMurpheys> no, i'll try that
[10:06] <xenol_> !java | DropKickMurpheys
[10:06] <ubotu> DropKickMurpheys: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:06] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[10:06] <DropKickMurpheys> what about flash?
[10:07] <xenol_> !flash | DropKickMurpheys
[10:07] <ubotu> DropKickMurpheys: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:07] <xenol_> !restricted
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <DropKickMurpheys> eh, i'm using feisty :/
[10:07] <ismakun> has anyone installed exadel pluging with eclipse in ubuntu and the the tomcat server worked?
[10:07] <xenol_> DropKickMurpheys: np just look for feisty how to
[10:07] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[10:07] <DropKickMurpheys> Thank you
[10:07] <uga> ScorpKing: qt-developer? where did you get that
[10:08] <uga> ScorpKing: kdevelop is a whole IDE created by kde people. You can create both qt and kde apps, or even gtk ones if you please
[10:08] <ismakun> im trying to run the tomcat server in exadel but it sends me an error
[10:08] <uga> it's not restricted to kde apps
[10:08] <uga> ScorpKing: but I don't really know what qt-developer is
[10:09] <uga> ScorpKing: qt tutorials can be used even with vi. They are unrelated to the IDE
[10:09] <ScorpKing> uga: i'm not sure if it's called that but i'm talking about the frontend for qt. looks like i got the name wrong. anyway, i understand now. :)
[10:09] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:09] <uga> ScorpKing: you're mixing up things... there's no "qt frontend"
[10:09] <uga> Qt are libraries
[10:09] <uga> they have no frontends
[10:09] <uga> they aren't applications
[10:10] <ScorpKing> uga: let me go look for the one i'm talking about. one sec...
[10:10] <uga> ScorpKing: there's tools like "designer", which helps creating guis
[10:10] <uga> but then it's all c++ code. You can create applications in something like notepad =)
[10:11] <edulix_> hi
[10:11] <BluesKaj> ppl here don't appreciate a good joke
[10:11] <edulix_> how can I configure where is my maildir in kmail?
[10:11] <ScorpKing> lol uga. i know. i use to do pascal.
[10:11] <quixogre> vi roxxors. theres still not a better text editor in existance
[10:11] <uga> BluesKaj: we're trying to decode the joke. Give us a couple hours more and maybe.. =)
[10:11] <BluesKaj> hehe
[10:12] <ScorpKing> uga: qt3-designer is what i meant.
[10:12] <uga> ScorpKing: that, designer, is just an application that generates scripts to autogenerate code
[10:13] <ScorpKing> o well. i'm just gonna use kdevelop.
[10:13] <uga> ScorpKing: you run the .ui files it creates through uic, and you get c++ code
[10:13] <uga> ScorpKing: kdevelop uses its own gui editor now, iirc
[10:14] <uga> but does exactly the same thing
[10:14] <ScorpKing> ic
[10:14] <uga> while kdevelop isn't only a gui editor that generates those scripts. It's also a text file (code) editor, debugger,...
[10:14] <uga> a whole IDE
[10:15] <ScorpKing> i don't see any tutorial in kdevelop's documentation as with qt-designer. i did find some online tho
[10:15] <uga> ScorpKing: if what you want is following qt tutorials, I suggest you ignore kdevelop for now and use kate
[10:15] <uga> ScorpKing: learning how to properly use kdevelop can be more daunting than following the qt tutorials
[10:15] <uga> and kate is a real nice editor =)
[10:16] <benny_> #tuxxland
[10:16] <ScorpKing> uga: i know kate. i see hilight all for text search has been added now. :)
[10:16] <uga> ScorpKing: or just use kdevelop as a file editor
[10:16] <uga> it's same as kate anyway
[10:16] <ScorpKing> or vi
[10:17] <uga> or ed =)
[10:17] <ScorpKing> not the same as notepad
[10:17] <xenol_> can i disable KDE options for GNOME?
[10:18] <Darkrift411> is there a gui tool that handles mounting?
[10:18] <Willabee> Whenever I click "Enabled Desktop Effects" on Feisty, my entire screen goes white except I can still move my mouse
[10:19] <Darkrift411> i have soem drives that will not mount properly
[10:19] <NotSure> uga, i wanted to issue a public apology because private messages are currently not allowed. Do you accept donations?
[10:19] <xenol_> NotSure: what happened?
[10:19] <NotSure> xenol, i had to prevaricate my case so somebody would help and uga responded
[10:19] <NotSure> xenol, when i was honest with him at the end, he got mad
[10:20] <NotSure> xenol, so now i want to pay back for my sin
[10:20] <luca_> hi everyone
[10:20] <Darkrift411> wow, sinners are everywhere these days... they have made it to linux help channels!
[10:21] <luca_> can someone help me please with network-manager? both in gnome and kde seems not to function
[10:21] <quixogre> luca_: whats the problem?
[10:22] <uga> NotSure: please, stop it, will you? I dont' want donations and I don't want apologizing. I just hate when people do what you just did. So next time behave and have fun
[10:22] <NotSure> uga, all right man! Peace!
[10:22] <zusjes> ?
[10:23] <zusjes> hello
[10:23] <luca_> quixogre: the applet (kde) does not see the network interfaces (which are up and running fine) whereas in gnome I cannot configure the interface at all, nor does it tell me any information on the established connection
[10:23] <ScorpKing> hi zusjes
[10:23] <luca_> basically they do not work at all
[10:23] <luca_> this in gutsy actually
[10:24] <quixogre> luca_: so knetworkmanager dorsnt work?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> hello. can anybody tell me, how to check ext-3 partitions under gparted?
[10:25] <luca_> quixogre: at all
[10:25] <luca_> it did until some hours ago
[10:26] <quixogre> luca diod soemthing trigger it to stop working? what changed from when it DID work?
[10:26] <uga> Darkrift411: kmenu->system settings->advanced->disks and filesystems
[10:26] <uga> Darkrift411: select administrator mode, and change with care =)
[10:26] <Darkrift411> god you guys friggen rock
[10:26] <Nuked> I managed to get compiz fusion installed, but there isnt a window decorator
[10:27] <luca_> well the only thing I can think of is I had touched the /etc/network/interfaces file....because I was trying to fix the fact that after suspend knetworkmanager did not function
[10:27] <quixogre> just uga...rest of us are newbs
[10:27] <Nuked> what do I run to get the window decoration?
[10:27] <uga> quixogre: lol
[10:27] <luca_> but I have restored the original since
[10:27] <uga> Nuked: kwin
[10:27] <uga> or kwin --replace if something else broken is running alraedy
[10:27] <Nuked> kwin just like that?
[10:27] <uga> Nuked: oh, for compiz.
[10:27] <Nuked> yeah
[10:27] <Nuked> for compiz
[10:27] <uga> emerald
[10:28] <uga> I don't think aquamarine can work under compiz (yes for beryl)
[10:28] <Nuked> wont that mean I have to install beryl?
[10:28] <quixogre> luca_: if you go to terminal and type ifconfig does it show up there?
[10:28] <luca_> quixogre yep
[10:28] <uga> Nuked: a second. my compiz got a deco, but I believe it's through emerald
[10:28] <luca_> actually I AM connected through wireless
[10:29] <luca_> thanks to wlassistant
[10:29] <fdoving> Nuked: try kmenu -> run command -> 'kde-window-decorator' to get the window decorations. that requires the compiz-kde package though.
[10:29] <quixogre> luca, does the loopback interface show up in knetworkmanager?
[10:29] <luca_> uhm what?
[10:29] <uga> Nuked: yes, it's emerald
[10:29] <uga> Nuked: apt-get install emerald
[10:29] <Willabee> Can anyone help me set up USB speakers?
[10:29] <quixogre> luca_: can you open knetworkmanager?
[10:29] <luca_> when I right click I see that it does not see any interface
[10:30] <luca_> yeah I can
[10:30] <Nuked> uga, compiz-kde does the trick... emerald not necessaru
[10:30] <Nuked> y
[10:30] <Willabee> They are listed when I aplay -l
[10:30] <Nuked> thanks again
[10:30] <Willabee> but I don't get any sound
[10:30] <fdoving> luca_: do you have the device set up in /etc/network/interfaces ? - if you have, that device will be ignored by network-manager.
[10:31] <quixogre> you may have just solved the problem...wlassistant sounds like its controlling the interfaces...it most likely disabled kde and gnomes network managers
[10:31] <uga> Nuked: cheers
[10:31] <uga> ouch
[10:31] <luca_> fdoving doh
[10:31] <luca_> thanks
[10:31] <quixogre> luca_: have you had wlassistant and knetworkmanager working in tandem previously?
[10:31] <uga> fdoving: is that kde-window-decorator, aquamarine renamed?
[10:31] <fdoving> uga: yeah, i belive so. something like that.
[10:32] <uga> and I was wondering why aquamarine didn't work on compiz, heh
[10:32] <fdoving> things happen quickly in compiz/beryl-land.
[10:33] <quixogre> !en
[10:33] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:33] <quixogre> sorry, wanted to check
[10:33] <pierre__> Is there any way i can bind the "Show desktop" button to my keyboard?
[10:34] <killermach> I've been using dual monitors with xinerama for years
[10:34] <uga> lol #ubuntu-chicago
[10:34] <uga> ?
[10:34] <uga> they have their own localised language???
[10:34] <killermach> I usually hand config the xorg.conf, but I'm having problems getting my kubuntu laptop to display with dual monitors
[10:35] <killermach> I only get a clone of the laptop screen
[10:35] <fdoving> pierre__: it's usually ctrl-alt-d, but you can change it in kmenu -> system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> search for show desktop in the 'global shortcuts'-tab.
[10:36] <killermach> Has anyone used dual monitor with a laptop? I'm not sure but I think winxp did have a dual display on this laptop
[10:36] <quixogre> killermach: if you find the answer, let me know. been trying to set up a second monitor on this system for two days now
[10:36] <fdoving> killermach: i've done that alot. it's doable. pretty simple with intel graphics. there are loads of guides at ubuntuforums.org
[10:37] <killermach> when I goto System Settings -> monitor/display it shows both monitors in hardware
[10:37] <killermach> but it does not detect my samsung syncmaster 225BW 22"
[10:37] <fdoving> killermach: the approach is somewhat different from one graphicscard-make to the other. there are basically the nvidia/ati/intel way to do it.
[10:38] <killermach> I can choose "flatpanel Lcd 1680x1050"
[10:38] <quixogre> uga, can i get some assistance? im running a geforce 8600 card on this machine. how do i set it up in ubuntu?
[10:39] <quixogre> uga errr kubuntu rather.
[10:39] <killermach> fdoving: the laptop has an ATI Radeon mobility 128, and I agree intel and nvidia make this easy so I think I'm fighting an ATI battle here
[10:39] <uga> quixogre: doesn't matter =)
[10:39] <killermach> quixogre: what video chip do you have?
[10:40] <quixogre> killermach: geforce 8600
[10:40] <magnus__> Newbie question how do I change the settings of th screen size in kubuntu
[10:40] <Ash-Fox> my ati radeon mobility ly6 was supported out of the box with 3d acceleration in kubuntu.
[10:40] <uga> quixogre: as far as it's same as my 8500gt drivers, the restricted module binaries didn't work for me (maybe will be fixed by final gutsy), so I just avoid/remove nvidia-glx, linux-restrictedmodules-* and install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[10:40] <uga> quixogre: running version 100.14.19 (latest stable)
[10:41] <uga> works fine
[10:41] <quixogre> whats the command to detect my vid card again? lscpi?
[10:41] <Ash-Fox> quixogre, just note that uga's method requires a recompile every kernel update.
[10:41] <uga> quixogre: lspci |grep -i nvidia
[10:41] <kozz_> quixogre: are you running feisty?
[10:41] <uga> Ash-Fox: very true
[10:41] <quixogre> running feisty. yes
[10:42] <BluesKaj> quixogre, check this out , http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html
[10:42] <uga> rather, just rerun the installer each time *buntu decides to bump kernel
[10:42] <kozz> not sure if nvidia-glx-new in feisty has support for 8k series of Nvidia
[10:42] <Ash-Fox> Could be in backport.
[10:42] <pierre__> fdoving: well my problem is i cant find it under global shortcuts
[10:43] <fdoving> pierre__: in english it's named 'Toggle Showing Desktop'
[10:43] <fdoving> pierre__: under 'Panel'
[10:44] <uga> kozz: maybe it does: Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted nvidia-new-kernel-source 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-12.4 [2279kB] 
[10:44] <uga> the version no. fromnvidia new for gutsy is at least the latest driver from nvidia, now
[10:44] <pierre__> fdoving: thanks i found it but it wont let me set my keyboards "windows" button as it
[10:45] <fdoving> pierre__: that's probably because it's configured to be a modifier key.
[10:45] <pierre__> fdoving: so what can i do?
[10:46] <uga> BluesKaj: if you remove "splash" and the two "silent"  from the options, it might boot
[10:46] <fdoving> pierre__: play with xev and xmodmap. google is yiour friend.
[10:46] <killermach> quixogre: goto nvidia.com and download the driver for linux, then make sure to install "nvidia" packages in synaptic/adept
[10:46] <uga> BluesKaj: not sure if it boots otherwise (possibly does), but it seems like it's not doing anything. And a couple times it just rebooted instead of booting up
[10:47] <kozz> 100.14.09 is the first version of nvidias driver to support 8600
[10:47] <uga> very strange thing. It'd start as if it were to start up, but suddenly I'd see the bios splash again
[10:47] <kozz> which is not available in fesity
[10:47] <kozz> you either have to download from nvidias homepage or use a tool such as Envy
[10:48] <uga> kozz: it'd be nice if one could request lrm tools to install from nvidia.com
[10:48] <BluesKaj> uga , i already edited it out of the /boot/grub/menu.lst file , but i'm just curious about the final release upgrade
[10:48] <BluesKaj> of gutsy
[10:48] <kozz> uga: maybe, that is not easy unforntunately
[10:49] <uga> BluesKaj: it shoudl better have a nice revamp ;)
[10:49] <Doctor_Nick> argah
[10:49] <Doctor_Nick> i keep trying to kill a process and it's not closing
[10:49] <Doctor_Nick> what the hell is happening
[10:49] <uga> kozz: I'm sure one can get in contact with nvidia to get a decent repository?
[10:49] <Doctor_Nick> i tried sigabrt, sigstop, sigkill, etc.
[10:50] <uga> kozz: from what I've seen, lrm provides .o object files instead of .ko
[10:51] <kozz> uga: the thing is, the nvidia driver must be synced with the kernel
[10:51] <uga> I know
[10:51] <uga> cooperation should exist
[10:51] <uga> kozz: the thing is, it's either done on each nvidia release, or kubuntu will always lag
[10:51] <kozz> I wouldn't trust Nvidia if I was Canonical ,)
[10:51] <uga> so there must be "unsupported" versions
[10:51] <uga> kozz: uh? why so
[10:52] <uga> canonical makes gfx cards too? :P
[10:52] <Purcelly> In the unlikely reason I want to remove Ubuntu can I just unistall it and use Windows again?
[10:52] <Webbmaster> why can't i kdesu as another user on gutsy, but i could on feisty?
[10:52] <uga> Purcelly: sure you can format it out and install windows
[10:52] <kozz> no, but they can try a certain versio of the driver and check that it works
[10:52] <Purcelly> Cheers
[10:53] <kozz> if the video driver doesn't work people will blame Canonical and not Nvidia
[10:53] <uga> Webbmaster: what do you mean by "as another user"?
[10:53] <uga> any user?
[10:53] <uga> you should be able to
[10:53] <Webbmaster> yeah, i can't
[10:53] <Webbmaster> i can't open graphical apps when su'd at all
[10:54] <Webbmaster> unless im sudoing into root
[10:54] <Webbmaster> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:54] <kozz> Webbmaster: yes, other users are not allowed to open windows on your desktop
[10:54] <newsense> Webbmaster: shouldnt be using sudo for gui apps, use kdesu
[10:54] <uga> Webbmaster: uh, can you explain exactly when you get that?
[10:54] <kozz> better to start them with kdesu
[10:54] <uga> ah, now I understand. OTHER users, not the one that logged in
[10:55] <uga> Webbmaster: you need to use xhost for that
[10:55] <flx> Im trying to update my system but i am ending up with tons of errors... http://pastebin.ca/720969 any ideas?
[10:55] <Webbmaster> btw, i was just using su as an easy way to get errors
[10:55] <Webbmaster> uga: xhost?
[10:55] <Webbmaster> !xhost
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xhost - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <uga> Webbmaster: or provide those users access to your .Xauthority file, and do export XAUTHORITY=/home/currentuser/.Xauthority
[10:55] <kloplop321> can somebody help me with Amarok? it crashes, I got the info from the terminal though
[10:56] <Webbmaster> uga: is there any major risk to doing the second thing you suggest?
[10:56] <uga> Webbmaster: like xhost +localhost will allow localhost apps to display there
[10:56] <kozz> flx: ohh, I have seen that error before :)
[10:56] <uga> Webbmaster: well, those users need to have permissions to read your home, so ... yes
[10:56] <kozz> what I did was to touch all files in /usr/share/fonts, not sure if that is a "good" way to "fix" it but it works
[10:56] <kloplop321> Amarok crashes for me, here is what happens in the terminal
[10:56] <kloplop321> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8 object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[10:56] <kloplop321> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVBox "unnamed", which already has a
[10:56] <kloplop321> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8 object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[10:56] <kloplop321> QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) t listWindow/PlaylistWindow
[10:56] <flx> kozz: is my system broken? :(
[10:57] <Webbmaster> uga: so it only a problem if i don't trust other people with physical acces?
[10:57] <kozz> flx: nut sure why it happends
[10:57] <uga> Webbmaster: yes
[10:57] <Webbmaster> okies
[10:57] <kozz> find /usr/share/fonts -exec touch {} \;
[10:57] <kloplop321> how can I reset Amarok to the default settings on everything?
[10:57] <kozz> "solves" it, not sure if there is a better way
[10:58] <flx> kozz: then what can i do?
[10:58] <flx> oh
[10:58] <uga> Webbmaster: you don't trust the xhost method?
[10:58] <kozz> flx: you also need to run it as root with sudo in front
[10:58] <uga> Webbmaster: you can give permissions on per user basis too, with xhost
[10:58] <uga> Webbmaster: check man xhost
[10:58] <Webbmaster> okies
[10:58] <kozz> flx: there are some more directores you need to touch also
[10:59] <flx> kozz it does not find anything
[10:59] <uga> [+] name The  given name (the plus sign is optional) is added to the list allowed to connect to the X server.  The name can be a
[10:59] <uga>                host name or a user name.
[10:59] <uga> what I don't know is how ... does it distinguish from a "uga" host or a "uga" username, if both exist????
[10:59] <kozz> flx: no the touch command does not give any output
[11:00] <kozz> flx: but it takes a while to execute?
[11:00] <flx> kozz: what does it do?
[11:00] <flx> kozz: yes..
[11:00] <kozz> it updates the timestamp of the files in the specified directory
[11:01] <usser> hello does anyone know where the actual kcontrol config files are located particularly the login manager settings
[11:01] <Flare183> how do you get water effect on beryl to work?
[11:01] <uga> usser: kdmrc
[11:01] <hellhound_> does kubuntu come preinstalled with a firewall / iptables?  I need to be able to open three ports that appear to be blocked but i cannot figure out how to open them up
[11:01] <flx> kozz: alright whats next?
[11:02] <uga> usser: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, at least in gutsy
[11:02] <kozz> flx: now try to update again, you should get less errors
[11:02] <fdoving> hellhound_: nothing preconfigured, no.
[11:02] <uga> else try "locate kdmrc"
[11:02] <fdoving> hellhound_: everything should be open once you start a service that listens.
[11:02] <uga> usser: the rest of settings, not kdm, are in your $(HOME)/.kde
[11:02] <Flare183> hellhound:> yes kmyfirewall
[11:02] <uga> usser: the rest of settings, not kdm, are in your $(HOME)/.kde/share/config
[11:02] <kozz> flx: but there was some other directories in your log also, so need to do the same thing on them
[11:02] <Flare183> hellhound:> or even firestarter
[11:02] <kozz> replace "/usr/share/fonts" with the directory
[11:03] <flx> kozz: i cant notice a difference
[11:03] <usser> uga: thanks a bunch gutsy for some reason wont let me change the default background in login manager is it just me?
[11:03] <flx> kozz: ... between the errors
[11:03] <uga> ouch, why did I add () there =)
[11:03] <Tonren> When trying to load a torrent with KTorrent, I get this error: "An error occurred while loading the torrent. The torrent is probably corrupt or is not a torrent file."
[11:03] <Ibkanat> anyone have a dv6000 series laptop
[11:04] <Ibkanat> or know where I should go :)
[11:04] <usser> uga: yea i know about those
[11:04] <uga> usser: uhm, I may know why. The login manager uses a kdm/gdm theme, rather than a normal background
[11:04] <Ibkanat> having trouble with stability
[11:04] <usser> uga: i needed system wide
[11:04] <Tonren> I can't possibly have found THREE corrupt torrent files, all of which apparently have over 15 seeders.
[11:04] <Flare183> how do you get water effect on beryl to work?
[11:05] <hellhound_> fdoving: i looked in adep manager and saw that iptables was installed.  i need to open ports 999 5678 and 26675 do synchronize my pda according to a how to
[11:05] <quixogre> okay. thats wierd...i ran gdm, and it brought up kdm...
[11:05] <usser> uga: nope, it was default kdm theme, then i installed kdmtheme and changed it and when it didnt work, i just renamed the theme i donwloaded to kubuntu default one it picked up, the background however is left hanging
[11:05] <quixogre> but if i ran startx, NVIDIA crashed on me
[11:06] <Flare183> hellhound:> well you can config iptables with firestarter, knetfilter, or kmyfirewall
[11:06] <usser> uga: u know the background that is showed for couple of secs when u just logged in before kde splash starts
[11:06] <quixogre> uga: you here?
[11:06] <quixogre> my screen looks much nicer now....but not sure im actually using the nvidia drivers...how do i check?
[11:07] <uga> usser: oh, that one... uhm... not sure but iirc that's something like the background desktop for root or somthing. I cant' remember
[11:07] <uga> usser: you mean in between kdmthemer and splash, right?
[11:07] <uga> quixogre: no
[11:07] <uga> =)
[11:07] <hellhound_> Flare183: which is the easiest to use since i do not have experience with iptables
[11:07] <usser> uga: yea that one
[11:07] <uga> usser: not sure myself. You can best ask at #kde. I'm sure somebody knows. iirc it relates to the desktop setting for the root or so
[11:07] <uga> but I'm not very sure
[11:08] <flx> kozz:  it seems to be working
[11:08] <usser> uga: ok
[11:08] <uga> usser: notice lots of people in #kde (at least the devs that hang around) are from europe and they may be asleep =)
[11:08] <flx> kozz:  cant i just do find / -exec touch {} \; ?
[11:08] <uga> usser: if you see annma, say hi from uga ;)
[11:08] <kozz> flx: just found a bug about it btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[11:08] <Flare183> hellhound_:> firestarter
[11:09] <kozz> flx: yes, but that is not recommended, since it has to access EVERY file on your system
[11:09] <kozz> flx: takes really long time and can have other side effects
[11:09] <flx> what exactly does this command do again?
[11:09] <usser> uga:
[11:09] <usser> uga: ok
[11:09] <kozz> touch - "Update the access and modification times of each FILE to the current time."
[11:09] <uga> quixogre: glxinfo should tell you if you're using nvidia
[11:09] <flx> kozz: hmm and why does it help me in this error?
[11:10] <uga> quixogre: or lsmod |grep -i nvidia
[11:10] <kozz> together with find it updates the timestamp of each file in the directory to the current time
[11:10] <uga> quixogre: if the number is 0, it's not being used
[11:10] <kozz> flx: since fontconfig can update the cache of files from the past for some reason
[11:10] <kozz> can't :)
[11:10] <flx> kozz: i see
[11:11] <kozz> No idea why, but feels like a bug in fontconfig :)
[11:11] <uga> quixogre: "OpenGL version string: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19" <--  should be read in glxinfo
[11:11] <kozz> sudo -i apt-get install fontconfig 2>&1 | grep failed | cut -d : -f 1 | xargs touch
[11:11] <kozz> that should solve it in one command
[11:12] <flx> kozz: horray its been fixed.. thank you
[11:12] <kozz> good
[11:12] <quixogre> WOOT! it worked :)
[11:12] <flx> should i bug report it too?
[11:12] <quixogre> im now running the nvidia drivers :) not only that, but now beryl works, too
[11:12] <kozz> there already is a bug about it
[11:13] <quixogre> james@james-desktop:~$ lsmod |grep -i NVIDIA
[11:13] <quixogre> nvidia               7249940  24
[11:14] <uga> quixogre: did you remove all the restricted modules stuff?
[11:14] <uga> I guess you did, else it wouldn't have worked :/
[11:14] <uga> =)
[11:14] <quixogre> so will i have to recompile kernel everytime i upgrade to new version of ubuntu?
[11:14] <quixogre> uga, nope
[11:15] <kozz> quixogre: gutsy has an up to date version of nvidia-glx
[11:15] <kozz> so gutsy should not be a problem :)
[11:15] <quixogre> kozz, heard too many bad things about gutsy. gonna wait till its out of beta at least
[11:16] <quixogre> but good ta know thery plan on supporting it
[11:16] <kozz> yep, but you said "new version of ubuntu" - that is gutsy
[11:16] <uga> quixogre: you'll have to reinstall the nvidia.run
[11:16] <uga> which will run and install the module, yes
[11:16] <uga> quixogre: one thing, are you in feisty, or gutsy?
[11:17] <quixogre> acha. gotcha now.
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> is it possible to downgrade k3b (i.e. use a previous version) ?
[11:17] <quixogre> uga: feisty
[11:17] <uga> quixogre: ahk. It sems nvidia-new in gutsy contains this driver now
[11:17] <uga> but not in feisty
[11:17] <Schuenemann> can anyone tell me how to restore KPDF's menu? I messed something up
[11:18] <quixogre> now if i could figure out how to two-head this machine, life would be grand
[11:18] <kozz> Schuenemann: ctrl+m
[11:18] <uga> Schuenemann: ctrl+M
[11:19] <uga> kozz: ouch, off by 2 seconds ;)
[11:19] <kozz> :P
[11:19] <uga> had I not pressed shift... =)
[11:19] <Schuenemann> wow, thanks
[11:19] <Schuenemann> is that a KDE shortcup?
[11:19] <Schuenemann> shortcut*
[11:19] <uga> Schuenemann: yes, for most apps
[11:19] <uga> or maybe all
[11:19] <Schuenemann> nice, thanks
[11:19] <uga> Schuenemann: the option is under settings->
[11:20] <uga> hide menu bar, ctrl+M
[11:20] <Schuenemann> yeah, I'd have seen that, if I had the menu bar :-)
[11:20] <uga> uhm strange. It reads "menubar". Is that correct english even?
[11:20] <uga> without a space
[11:21] <Schuenemann> Dunno, translated here
[11:21] <Schuenemann> But I think so... we say spacebar
[11:21] <uga> Schuenemann: iirc, kde used to warn about hiding the menu, before
[11:21] <kozz> there is a option "show menubar" if you rightclick the document
[11:22] <Schuenemann> oh yeah, I clicked many places but not the document
[11:22] <uga> kozz: where?
[11:22] <uga> I only see "add bookmark"
[11:23] <Schuenemann> you have to hide it
[11:23] <kozz> the menu needs to be removed also
[11:23] <uga> oh only when hiding. clever. Thanks =)
[11:23] <uga> it seems other apps follow too. konqui does same
[11:23] <quixogre> !nvidia
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <uga> quixogre: that's the "how not to" in your case ;)
[11:24] <quixogre> !multi monitor
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multi monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <lance_> ive problem with my ati card
[11:24] <uga> !twinview
[11:24] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:24] <quixogre> uga: trying to figure out how to get my second monitor working now
[11:24] <uga> quixogre: look at that info
[11:25] <quixogre> !dualhead
[11:25] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:25] <Bleep> hi there
[11:25] <lance_> hi
[11:25] <Bleep> ive managed to visit my modem settings page through konqueror
[11:25] <Bleep> but how do i connect to the internet?
[11:26] <quixogre> !twinview
[11:26] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:26] <uga> quixogre: it's a shame I had not thought of dualheading when buying this gfx card
[11:26] <Willabee> Can anyone help me set up sound with USB speakers?
[11:26] <Willabee> I have sound with GAIM, but not firefox or anything else
[11:27] <uga> quixogre: I believe I can do that by connecting one monitor through crt and the other through dvi, but doesn't seem to be the right way...
[11:27] <Aattila> Hi! Does anybody know how to get buici-clock be always on the top?
[11:28] <dhq_> why cant they add the previous features in kbluetoothd
[11:28] <quixogre> uga: they make a converter that'll convert the DVI port to 9pin
[11:29] <quixogre> my card came with two DVI ports. had to use converter for second head
[11:29] <pillowpants> im using fiesty, and i cant seem to write access an ntfs partition i have
[11:29] <pillowpants> its claiming to be read only
[11:30] <uga> quixogre: heh, you want to swap? =)
[11:30] <pillowpants> how would i fix this issue?
[11:30] <Doctor_Nick> man
[11:30] <quixogre> newer monitor on first head, so it doesnt need converter...
[11:30] <uga> quixogre: mine comes with a dvi and a normal 9 pin thing =)
[11:30] <Bleep> should i turn on dhcp on my modem?
[11:30] <quixogre> lol uga nah thanks. i like my two headed beast ;)
[11:30] <uga> quixogre: exactly suiting your needs ;P
[11:30] <Doctor_Nick> is there a gui front end for the modprobe utilities?
[11:30] <Doctor_Nick> it would be nice if there was something analogous to the device manager on windows for linux :/
[11:31] <Bleep> im trying to setup adsl internet for houes... still not working ;/
[11:31] <uga> Doctor_Nick: afaik not. The general rule is that linux should autodetect what drivers are needed
[11:31] <quixogre> bleep no luck with the isp?
[11:31] <Bleep> nopes
[11:31] <EvilIdler> Bleep: Who's your ISP?
[11:32] <Bleep> ive managed to manually set eth0 settings
[11:32] <Bleep> mine is planet
[11:32] <EvilIdler> Bleep: Do you know if they require PPPoE or some other such login?
[11:33] <quixogre> EvilIdler: yeah. even with XP he has to manually set up his IP and such
[11:33] <EvilIdler> Ugh. That sounds broken :/
[11:33] <Bleep> dunno, i tried "sudo pppoeconf" but no luck
[11:33] <EvilIdler> Trying to browse their site triggers all my warnings
[11:34] <netwalker> Hi everyone!
[11:34] <uga> Bleep: oh, now I remember you. Sorry, my machine went down when I was trying to help you out
[11:34] <Bleep> yes but my modem can be set as dhcp .... is that good?
[11:34] <uga> did you manage entering the webpage of the adsl modem?
[11:34] <Bleep> yes
[11:34] <uga> yes, that's good
[11:34] <uga> that way linux will autoconfigure itself
[11:34] <quixogre> bleep yes, set the modem to dhcp
[11:34] <uga> now the modem should be set to the details the ISP provides
[11:34] <Bleep> dhcp client or server?
[11:34] <uga> username, pppoe... etc
[11:34] <Doctor_Nick> uga: yeah, but say that I want to disable a device, like my internal sound card
[11:34] <quixogre> bleep server
[11:35] <Bleep> ah ty :)
[11:35] <EvilIdler> I used to work for another ISP with Dutch origins. Their DHCP server wasn't compatible with client v3.x for some reason. Had to use 2.0.
[11:35] <quixogre> then set your laptop for dhcp client
[11:35] <araizen> one of my internal harddrives, hdd, just failed. i just unplugged it and rebooted, but how do i tell kubuntu that it shouldn't look for that disk?
[11:35] <Willabee> Can anyone help me with getting sound to work in firefox?
[11:35] <dhq_> which is the channel for kubuntu development
[11:35] <uga> Bleep: server for the modem. It must act as server for the machines in your home lan
[11:35] <Bleep> well im dutch ;)
[11:35] <quixogre> araizen: shouldnt be a need to. unless you were mounting required filesystems from it
[11:36] <netwalker> just a kick question. does anyone remember how this .hidden file could define which files you wanted hidden (instead of renamig dir to .dir)? how can I activate it again? it deactivated yesterday when I updated to gutsy
[11:36] <uga> Doctor_Nick: drivers don't come separately in linux. If you remove a module, you may disable all your soundcards
[11:36] <uga> Doctor_Nick: some do come separately, but some come grouped
[11:36] <araizen> quixogre: well, when i boot it says there's a problem with the filesystem and gives me a command prompt, but i just type ctrl-d and everything continues fine
[11:36] <tekteen> will kde 4.0 be in 7.10
[11:36] <uga> tekteen: no
[11:37] <araizen> quixogre: i was probably automounting some partitions on hdd, where do i tell the system not to do that at boot time?
[11:37] <netwalker> tekteen: maybe in time for 8.10...
[11:37] <EvilIdler> Ooh, then there's hope 7.10 really does get released in October :)
[11:37] <quixogre> araizen: look in /etc/mount file
[11:37] <araizen> quixogre: okay, thanks
[11:38] <emilsedgh> ardchoille: /etc/fstab, i think, tight quixogre?
[11:38] <quixogre> sorry, emilsedgh is correct. fstab not mount
[11:38] <emilsedgh> s/tight/right
[11:38] <araizen> quixogre: there is no /etc/mount
[11:38] <uga> Willabee: possibly sound doesn't work in firefox because another app like amarok is using the soundcard
[11:38] <ftz> How do I change the icon theme for Evolution? I also would like to change the GTK theme if possible
[11:38] <araizen> is it called something like /etc/fstab?
[11:39] <tekteen> yes
[11:39] <uga> araizen: yes =)
[11:39] <quixogre> araizen: yeah. thats it
[11:39] <araizen> thanks
[11:39] <Willabee> Amarok?
[11:39] <ftz> Amarok is awesome
[11:39] <uga> Willabee: any application that plays music
[11:39] <netwalker> araizen: look in /etc/fstab for the mount line for the disk you want not automount. see if it has an 'auto' option. if it does, change it to noauto, if it does't, add it
[11:39] <araizen> okay it has a bunch of things UUID=<some long number>
[11:39] <Willabee> The only programs I have open are Firefox and GAIM right now
[11:40] <uga> uhm... no idea then
[11:40] <EvilIdler> Bleep: One of the modems Planet gives you is the same one I've had for a long time. Although my ISP disables their firewalls
[11:40] <chn> can u tell me how to change kde shortcuts ?
[11:40] <araizen> but there are comments above each line that it's /dev/h??#
[11:40] <araizen> i should just comment out the ones that refer to hdd?
[11:40] <araizen> there are also indented numbers below each line
[11:40] <uga> Willabee: what's a site that  you expect to play sounds in firefox?
[11:40] <uga> so that I can test
[11:40] <Willabee> Well first test was youtube
[11:41] <netwalker> araizen: if you look up in the begining of the file, you can see something like ' <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>'
[11:41] <uga> oh, I had forgotten I'm using nspluginwrapper... it's more challenging for me ;)
[11:41] <araizen> netwalker: okay
[11:41] <ScorpKing> youtube works with firefox on my box
[11:42] <tekteen> mine to
[11:42] <ftz> mine works fine too
[11:42] <netwalker> araizen: that meas the options come in the 4th group of text of each line. they should say something like default or notail or some options like that
[11:42] <araizen> most of them have a options as 'defaults'
[11:42] <chn> hello all. can u tell me how to change kde shortcuts ????
[11:42] <uga> ok, here it works with sound and all, too
[11:42] <araizen> should i change that to 'noauto' or 'defaults,noauto' or something like that?
[11:42] <tekteen> chn: what do u mean
[11:42] <ftz> what shortcuts
[11:42] <Willabee> Other sites I've tested are Veoh and YTMND
[11:43] <uga> Willabee: do other applications play any sounds?
[11:43] <ScorpKing> araizen: i just got here. what are you trying to do?
[11:43] <tekteen> chn: k menu?
[11:43] <hydrogen> araizen: defaults,noauto
[11:43] <netwalker> araizen:  and the 2nd group is where does it mount. try find from it's mount point what is the disk you look for
[11:43] <Willabee> I get sound from GAIM
[11:43] <chn> tekteen:  I want to use my keyboard buttons on amarok to volume up / down
[11:43] <Willabee> and that's the only one I've found working so far
[11:43] <uga> Willabee: unless gaim is doing anything to take over the soundcard... that's strange
[11:43] <Willabee> When I do all the sound tests I get sound
[11:43] <araizen> ScorpKing: i'm trying to keep hdd from mounting at boot time, because it failed and i unplugged it
[11:43] <araizen> netwalker: okay thanks
[11:44] <araizen> netwalker: if i just comment out those lines, would that be okay
[11:44] <araizen> because the disk is totally gone and is never going to be mounted again
[11:44] <tekteen> araizen: why not comment it out
[11:44] <netwalker> araizen: yes, that would make the trick
[11:44] <araizen> okay, thanks
[11:44] <ScorpKing> araizen: just comment it out in /etc/fstab. the line under #/dev/hdd
[11:46] <bleep1> uhm ok ive set my modem to dhcp server
[11:46] <netwalker> ok. I got an stuborn konqueror that doesn't want to hide the files I tell it in the .hidden file. any hint?
[11:46] <EvilIdler> bleep1: "sudo dhclient eth0" might give you some IP-address now?
[11:46] <uga> bleep1: the modem should also tell you if the adsl is up, speed, etc inside. Does it?
[11:47] <bleep1> i dont know
[11:47] <bleep1> DHCP Lease table
[11:47] <bleep1> Client id 	address 	Expires 	State 	Action 	
[11:47] <bleep1> 01:00:1a:80:44:e8:0e	10.0.0.1	6952	used		
[11:47] <bleep1> hmm gonna try
[11:47] <bleep1> thats what my modem says
[11:48] <uga> that's the dhcp logs
[11:48] <uga> but before making the machine work, I usualy try to make the modem work ;)
[11:48] <uga> bleep1: was the machine fully configured by the instructions of the isp?
[11:48] <EvilIdler> Well, there is a certain usefulness in that, yes :)
[11:48] <quixogre> uga, hehe i'd just buy a small 8 port router and be done with the mess personally
[11:49] <bleep1> it was first..
[11:49] <uga> bleep1: dns servers, username, password, pppoe, vpi values... etc etc etc
[11:49] <uga> llc...
[11:49] <uga> if another machine works through it, it should be done already
[11:49] <bleep1> dunno where to set username password and ppoe?
[11:49] <EvilIdler> I'm using some form of Thomson/Alcatel tiny modem with no firewall or router active, and a Linksys Linux-based router between me and the filthy 'net
[11:49] <quixogre> uga, obviously it works, because he's using it now from his existing PC
[11:50] <uga> bleep1: don't you have "Wan" or "Adsl" menus in the modem's webpage?
[11:50] <uga> quixogre: that's what I was wondering =)
[11:50] <uga> but he just now set up dhcp
[11:50] <uga> how's the windows machine working. Fixed ip? =)
[11:51] <quixogre> uga, he was originally set up as static IP on his PC...prolly styill is, but if the router is running dhcp, then his linux box should be able to hit it
[11:51] <uga> =)
[11:51] <bleep1> well istill can connect with my xp computer
[11:51] <uga> bleep1: and how are you connected here, now?
[11:51] <bleep1> on my xp computer
[11:51] <quixogre> bleep1, is the xp computer still using static IP? the IP you put in manually?
[11:51] <bleep1> yes
[11:52] <bleep1> strange huh
[11:52] <EvilIdler> I'm guessing the nick change was bleep switching to DHCP on the XP system ;)
[11:52] <uga> [23:51]  <bleep1> well istill can connect with my xp computer [23:51]  <uga> bleep1: and how are you connected here, now? [23:51]  <bleep1> on my xp computer
[11:52] <uga> I don't get it, I really don't get it =)
[11:52] <uga> I need coffee
[11:52] <quixogre> bleep1 nah. just try running the other box. see if it can find the dhcp server. come back and let us know the results
[11:53] <Willabee> Ok I got sound working now
[11:53] <Willabee> I forgot to set my Speaker to default card
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[11:56] <Willabee> Now the only problem I have left with Ubuntu is activating Desktop effects
[11:56] <Willabee> Whenever I try to enable them, my entire screen goes white
[11:56] <tekteen> what type
[11:56] <tekteen> ?
[11:56] <Willabee> but I can still move my mouse around and stuff
[11:56] <uga> Willabee: and gaim worked without that?
[11:56] <Willabee> Just the regular
[11:56] <Willabee> Yeah
[11:56] <netwalker> Willabee: what graphic card do you use?
[11:57] <quixogre> willabee. i had the same problem. i went and installed the correct video drivers for my video card, and now effects work fine
[11:57] <evilidler> Willabee: I've found the beryl-managers various options to disable/enable some things help.
[11:57] <Willabee> Umm
[11:57] <Willabee> I don't have beryl installed yet
[11:57] <killermach> how do I tell what package installs /dev/shm?
[11:57] <Willabee> I have an Intel 865
[11:57] <netwalker> that could be a problem...
[11:57] <Willabee> I had to adjust the xorg file to get my resolution, so I think that might be one of the problems
[11:57] <evilidler> Willabee: Beryl and -manager is what you want
[11:57] <killermach> the redhat rpm managers will let you search for filename, I don't see that option in synaptic
[11:58] <evilidler> Willabee: Also any theme-related things (apt-cache search beryl, basically)
[11:58] <netwalker> killermach: are you on kubuntu?
[11:58] <Willabee> so I should be able to get the effects by installing Beryl?
[11:58] <evilidler> If you're using Adept, the default Kubuntu tool, there is a search box or three
[11:59] <evilidler> Willabee: That, and a few other settings. Your card is one I don't have direct experience with, though
[11:59] <killermach> netwalker: I am.. which is why I ask the question..
[11:59] <Willabee> Ok
[11:59] <netwalker> killermach: get to a konqueror and try enter  apt:/
[11:59] <Willabee> I'll try installing
[11:59] <killermach> I cannot figure out how to query the repositories to find which package has /dev/shm
[12:00] <evilidler> Willabee: You'll probably need to enable some fancy visuals in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use Beryl fully
[12:00] <Willabee> D: Apparently my driver doesn't support direct rendering
[12:00] <killermach> netwalker: cool :) thanks
[12:00] <Willabee> Right now I'm using i810
[12:01] <evilidler> Willabee: I guess you need to comment out the Load "dri" line, then
[12:01] <Bleep> im back
[12:01] <killermach> netwalker: shoot.. it says it cannot find that file /dev/shm, but the ATI driver proprietary install states it as a requirement before install
[12:01] <uga> Willabee: ati?
[12:02] <killermach> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8-inst.html
[12:02] <Bleep> well my modem's page:   dial-in   routing   PPP   CIP   PPTP   BRIDGE   DHCP   DNS
[12:02] <uga> ouch, I was reading backlogs, didn't notice the following conversation. Please ignore
[12:02] <evilidler> Willabee: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=535336
[12:03] <quixogre> bleep any luck getitng the dhcp to work?
[12:03] <netwalker> then is not a .deb packet. is a device file created by a kernel module
[12:03] <Bleep> well i turned on the DHCP server... but do i need to set advanced options?
[12:03] <quixogre> on the router?
[12:03] <netwalker> killermach: then is not a .deb packet. is a device file created by a kernel module
[12:04] <Bleep> there's and advanced page of the modems DHPC settings
[12:04] <uga> Bleep: possibly no need
[12:04] <quixogre> bleep. you shouldnt.
[12:04] <uga> Bleep: if it says something like "work as dns server", "ip ranges", you could set them up, but not necessary
[12:04] <Willabee> Maybe I need to increase the number in VideoRAM?
[12:04] <evilidler> The problems are probably MAC-filtering and such, so just restart networking on the Linux computer and see if it picks up an IP
[12:04] <killermach> netwalker: hmm.. I agree, in centos/mandrake/RH, I can to rpm --what-provides /dev/shm   and see what to install
[12:05] <evilidler> s/problems/options/
[12:05] <Bleep> well its says: addresses 10.0.0.1  subnetmask 255.0.0.0   default gateway: auto
[12:05] <uga> wow, that's a very wide subnet!
[12:05] <uga> Bleep: did you change it yourself from 255.255.255.0 to that?
[12:05] <evilidler> Maybe he's big-boned. Don't make fun of him.
[12:05] <quixogre> bleep, thats perfect. not sure why its giving you a class A subnet, but hey, whatever works
[12:06] <evilidler> Class A = easier to type ;)
[12:06] <Bleep> no, its set that way in modem settings
[12:06] <uga> evilidler: I'm not making fun
[12:06] <evilidler> (when drunk)
[12:06] <Bleep> i  havent changed  anything
[12:06] <uga> Bleep: I'd suggest setting up 255.255.255.0 as subnet mask
[12:06] <Bleep> o ok
[12:06] <uga> unless you run a huge world-wide home lan ;))
[12:06] <netwalker> killermach: take a look at this> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.13.4.html
[12:06] <evilidler> uga: Insert applicable emoticon for jokes etc. :)
[12:06] <quixogre> uga, hehe let him run a class A. who knows. he may need it some day ;)
[12:07] <evilidler> I would expect the modem to give him a 192.168.something address if DHCP is working, though
[12:07] <uga> Bleep: about "adresses", is that a list of addresses?
[12:07] <uga> sounds like it allows defining a range
[12:07] <evilidler> Just restart networking/run dhclient again
[12:07] <Bleep> when i want to change to 255.255.255.0 it says invalid dhcp pool parameters
[12:07] <quixogre> evil, sounds like his modem is set up for commercial use by default. he's been using a static class A address already
[12:07] <denis__> hello
[12:07] <evilidler> Ah, right
[12:07] <denis__> i need help
[12:08] <quixogre> denis__: just ask :)
[12:08] <denis__> my english is pretty bad^^
[12:08] <netwalker> killermach: did you see where it says 'To enable POSIX Shared Memory on your system, perform the following as root:'... ?
[12:08] <denis__> my modules?
[12:08] <denis__> are lost
[12:08] <quixogre> bleep 255.0.0.0 is fine. just ask
[12:08] <denis__> for my system
[12:08] <quixogre> denis, what language do you speak?
[12:08] <uga> Bleep: uhm... that's nto normal. Does it have a very big ip range set for subnet?
[12:09] <denis__> german
[12:09] <killermach> netwalker: reading now
[12:09] <quixogre> !de | denis__
[12:09] <ubotu> denis__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:09] <denis__> yes
[12:09] <uga> quixogre: sure, an A class home-lan. Right? =)
[12:09] <denis__> i know
[12:09] <denis__> but there is no one online xD
[12:09] <denis__> all afk
[12:09] <quixogre> uga hey man if it aint broke...
[12:09] <evilidler> It's OK with an A if you're a classy user.
[12:09] <uga> lol
[12:09] <denis__> or don't know what to do
[12:09] <Bleep> ok so i presume my modem is set alread but what do i have to set in knetworkmanager?
[12:09] <quixogre> denis__: shoot. we'll try to help
[12:10] <uga> Bleep: just set it all to use automatic (dhcp)
[12:10] <uga> and should run fine
[12:10] <quixogre> bleep set knetworkmanager to use DHCP
[12:10] <evan__> i have never tried to do this before so i dont even know what to search. i want to set up a wireless LAN. one comp is winxp the other is kubuntu, i know i need to use samba, but thats about all i know. what do i search to get the answeres i need? windows wireless lan didnt turn up much
[12:10] <evilidler> Bleep: I suggest just opening a terminal and running "sudo dhclient eth0", ot whatever your device was to test it
[12:10] <Bleep> ah ok
[12:10] <Bleep> ok brbr
[12:10] <denis__> lol quixogre xD
[12:10] <quixogre> evan__: why do you need samba?
[12:10] <denis__> ok
[12:11] <denis__> http://www.bilderhosting.info/pics/image68952.jpg
[12:11] <denis__> thats the screenshot
[12:11] <evilidler> evan__: I stopped using Samba when i found WinSCP.
[12:11] <quixogre> evan__: samaba is only if you are mounting windows networked file systems on thew linux box or vice versa
[12:11] <denis__> but i don't think you can do understand it^^
[12:11] <uga> evilidler: quixogre: it's best if he can set up subnet mask properly, else he'll have more fun when he wants firewalling properly
[12:11] <evan__> quixogre: i thought samba is what was needed for linux and windows to communicate on lan
[12:11] <tekteen> evan: no
[12:12] <tekteen> it is used for windows file sharing
[12:12] <quixogre> evan__: nope.
[12:12] <tekteen> and printing
[12:12] <uga> evilidler: quixogre: and he needs some IPs left for vmware or vbox =)
[12:12] <evilidler> uga: Yeah, I don't know many who have more than 255 computers at home, anyway..
[12:12] <uga> evilidler: not many? so you know someone? =))
[12:12] <tekteen> evan: konqueror has a built in smb client
[12:12] <evilidler> One. But he's certifiable.
[12:13] <tekteen> smb:/
[12:13] <uga> heh
[12:13] <bleep1> ok im back again
[12:13] <evilidler> Not all are networked, either. His powerbill is insane.
[12:13] <denis__> no help?^^
[12:13] <pillowpants> so, i clicked "do not ask again" on the konkerer download window, and now i have no idea where my stuff is downloading to
[12:13] <uga> heh
[12:13] <uga> no wonder
[12:13] <pillowpants> where would i go to undo that?
[12:13] <tekteen> even?
[12:13] <bleep1> ive tried sudo  dhcclient eth0
[12:13] <quixogre> sorry denis__: nein sprechen
[12:13] <pillowpants> i checked all the stuff in preferences, and i tell you it isnt there
[12:13] <bleep1> what should i look  after?
[12:14] <denis__> hmm
[12:14] <quixogre> at one point i had 300 devices...but all but twqo of them were slot machiens in my garage.
[12:15] <denis__> quixogre:
[12:15] <evilidler> I don't see the need for more than one work computer, a gaming computer and one of every console
[12:15] <uga> denis__: if that's meant to be a screenshot of your "kubuntu" system, I understand you're trolling?
[12:15] <yamal> denis__: the "screenshot" you linked to is taken out of some childrens bedtime story book, aint gonna get much help with that here
[12:15] <denis__> xD
[12:15] <uga> denis__: you know trolls get banned here
[12:15] <evan__> ok guys, like i said i am such an uber nerd at this that i dont even know what to search. first i need to set up LAN, either on my kubuntu box or the win box. so where do i find some good info, what do i type into the search box?
[12:15] <denis__> ????
[12:15] <denis__> i try to change my systemsettings
[12:15] <quixogre> evan__: do you have a wireless router?
[12:15] <denis__> but when i try to
[12:16] <denis__> it shows me
[12:16] <denis__> that every module is lost
[12:16] <evilidler> evan__: If you want easy WinXP<->Linux connectivity, run a SSH server on the Linux computer, WinSCP on the Windows computer and just drag and drop.
[12:16] <tekteen> evan: all u need is a wireless router
[12:16] <denis__> ooooh guuuys
[12:16] <denis__> sryyy
[12:17] <denis__> that was the wrong liiink
[12:17] <denis__> -.-
[12:17] <evilidler> Get us the correct link, then :)
[12:17] <denis__> sry sry sry
[12:17] <denis__> wait
[12:17] <bleep1> listening on LFP/eth0/00.1a:80:44:e8:0es
[12:17] <bleep1> sending on LFP/eth0/00.1a:80:44:e8:0e
[12:17] <bleep1> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[12:17] <bleep1> DHCPOFFER 10.0.0.138
[12:17] <bleep1> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[12:17] <bleep1> DHCPACK from 10.0.0.138
[12:17] <bleep1> bound 10.0.0.1 -- renewall in 2750 seconds.
[12:17] <quixogre> c'mon guys, i thought the teddy bear was cute....
[12:17] <uga> !paste | bleep1
[12:17] <ubotu> bleep1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:18] <bleep1> listening on LFP/eth0/00.1a:80:44:e8:0es
[12:18] <bleep1> sending on LFP/eth0/00.1a:80:44:e8:0e
[12:18] <bleep1> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[12:18] <bleep1> DHCPOFFER 10.0.0.138
[12:18] <bleep1> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[12:18] <bleep1> DHCPACK from 10.0.0.138
[12:18] <bleep1> bound 10.0.0.1 -- renewall in 2750 seconds.
[12:18] <bleep1> o sorry
[12:18] <evilidler> bleep1: Your modem is giving you an address, at least
[12:18] <bleep1> im using mirc
[12:18] <evilidler> It's like aids.
[12:18] <denis__> http://www.bilderhosting.info/pics/image68969.png
[12:18] <denis__> thats correct
[12:18] <bleep1> you mean 10.0.0.138?
[12:19] <quixogre> bleep1: thats all good. means your linux box has an IP address. now: can you connect to a website from it?
[12:19] <evan__> quixogre: i do have a wireless router, but im not lookin for total spoon feedage, i will just surf around a bit more. im working on the windows box now anyways. it wont recognize the cd-rom
[12:19] <evilidler> denis__: Ah, looks like KDE is partially installed
[12:19] <evan__> thanks tho
[12:19] <denis__> hm
[12:19] <evilidler> denis__: Can you run Adept?
[12:19] <quixogre> evan__: sorry man, just starting at the beginning...
[12:19] <denis__> wait
[12:19] <evan__> its all good
[12:20] <evan__> i will figure it out, just messin around neways
[12:20] <bleep1> do i need to do something before i can visit a website?
[12:20] <uga> denis__: nicht gefunden == not found?
[12:20] <denis__> yes
[12:20] <quixogre> evan__: can both PCs connect to the wifi router?
[12:20] <denis__> yes
[12:20] <denis__> uga yes
[12:20] <evilidler> bleep1: Shouldn't need to do anything special if you have IP+nameservers
[12:20] <denis__> and evan__ yes
[12:20] <caravaka> hi. i run NMap on my system and see that port 21 is open even though I don't have any ftp daemon running
[12:20] <uga> denis__: the rest of modules work?
[12:20] <bleep1> when does it prompt  me for user name and pasw?
[12:20] <denis__> no
[12:20] <denis__> all lost
[12:21] <Lega> 'ello.
[12:21] <evilidler> caravaka: Probably one of the wrapper servers, like inetd, accepting that port
[12:21] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I tell "burn" utility what CD drive to use?  My master drive is not a burner.
[12:21] <denis__> oh not all
[12:21] <caravaka> oh
[12:21] <quixogre> bleep1: it shouldnt. just go to www.google.com
[12:21] <bleep1> ok brb
[12:21] <caravaka> is that why netstat also doesn't find any process id associated with that open port?
[12:21] <evilidler> caravaka: Either comment out in, uhm, some config, or just add an iptables rule to DROP all requests
[12:21] <quixogre> caravaka: if you want to block port 21, go to iptables
[12:21] <evilidler> caravaka: That would be it
[12:22] <caravaka> hmm thanks evilidler
[12:22] <quixogre> !iptables | caravaka
[12:22] <ubotu> caravaka: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:22] <uga> quixogre: iptables????
[12:22] <denis__> i see
[12:22] <caravaka> ok.. i have a question about firestarter...
[12:22] <uga> quixogre: man, you use that interface straight? =)
[12:22] <denis__> its this module
[12:22] <denis__> and the filesystem module
[12:22] <yamal> denis__: run "systemsettings" from the command line and try to open this module, then put the debug output you get on the command line on pastebin
[12:22] <caravaka> why can't i run it as a daemon but instaead have to run it from kde/gnome after logging in?
[12:22] <Lega> While watching a .mkv file (or almost any video format, for that matter) on my computer, the sound that comes out of the speakers acts as though it is EXTREMELY loud, like blasting the speakers. There is distortion and scratching noise, even when I turn the sound almost all the way down. (In Kaffeine and in VLC). When I played the same file on my VirtualBox Windows XP, the sound is fine. Thoughts?
[12:22] <evilidler> What's wrong with iptables? It's hardcore, sure, but it works!
[12:23] <quixogre> uga lol dude i keep tellin  ya. im so old school, i refuse to use anything newer than vi
[12:23] <uga> quixogre: let the rest use sane things though ;))
[12:23] <tekteen> iptables just works
[12:23] <tekteen> lol
[12:23] <uga> tekteen: it's so easy to screw up using iptables
[12:23] <bleep2> nopes cant visit google.com
[12:23] <uga> unless you know it VERY well
[12:23] <tekteen> and so easy to fix
[12:23] <evan__> quixogre: only the linux box right now, need to install *drivers* for the winbox but cdeom wont load
[12:23] <s> i am trying to run a perl script, but the instructions say i need to install "Config::Tiny, LWP::Simple and File::HomeDir"   can anyone tell how to install these perl modules?
[12:23] <denis__> sudo systemeinstellungen?
[12:23] <uga> tekteen: only if you notice it's broken
[12:23] <evilidler> caravaka: I've had less than pleasant experience with Firestarter personally, but it shouldn't matter if it runs or not. It's a frontend to add rules to Linux iptables, the built-in firewall
[12:24] <yamal> denis__: no sudo
[12:24] <quixogre> bah. that link also had guarddog and firestarter
[12:24] <tekteen> that is why we test
[12:24] <denis__> i have linux since this morning
[12:24] <yamal> just open a terminal, type "systemsettings" and then hit enter
[12:24] <tekteen> ;-)
[12:24] <evilidler> caravaka: There's also a new console program that looks simple enough - Vuurmuur
[12:24] <denis__> so sry for the stupid questions^^
[12:24] <bleep2> lol dutch
[12:24] <uga> tekteen: you test forwarding packets, unconnected pushes etc? =)
[12:24] <evilidler> There are no stupid questions, only stupid software
[12:24] <uga> tekteen: I'm so proud of you ;)
[12:24] <tekteen> lol
[12:24] <tekteen> networking is my fav subject
[12:25] <tekteen> netcat is the way to go
[12:25] <uga> I can only suggest shorewall for firewalling
[12:25] <bleep2> i've tried to visit  www.google.com but it doesnt work.
[12:25] <quixogre> .me thinks a fun friday night is manually configuring hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[12:25] <evilidler> My least fave, but I have to know it because of work and hobbies
[12:25] <caravaka> lemme check vuurmuur out
[12:25] <denis__> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/5840
[12:25] <denis__> here
[12:25] <tekteen> I like to learn hacking
[12:26] <tekteen> and security
[12:26] <evilidler> Before trying Shorewall or Vuurmuur, make sure you uninstall other firewall tools!
[12:26] <evilidler> Only keep one installed at a time.
[12:26] <bleep2> how do i prevent hackers from running processes in port 443?
[12:26] <evilidler> Weird things can happen ;)
[12:26] <denis__> yamal
[12:26] <denis__> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/5840
[12:26] <yamal> denis__: try opening one of the modules that fail, that will give you more output. the stuff so far is harmless
[12:27] <tekteen> block with iptables
[12:27] <denis__> ehm how?
[12:27] <tekteen> ehm?
[12:27] <uga> bleep2: easy. You see a cable that comes out from the adsl modem to your pc?
[12:27] <quixogre> !iptables | bleep2
[12:27] <denis__> systemsettings/what?
[12:27] <ubotu> bleep2: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:27] <bleep2> lol not at home
[12:27] <uga> bleep2: thick one. It's got a connector in either end, called RJ45
[12:27] <uga> bleep2: so unplug it and be happy =)
[12:27] <uga> no more hackers ;)
[12:27] <bleep2> not here lol
[12:27] <caravaka> evilidler: since firestarter/guarddog are just guis for changing iptables, i dont' have to run them each time i boot into kde/gnome rite? since iptables anyways is in effect
[12:27] <evilidler> denis__: just click choices in the menus of systemsettings and watch the debug output pour out like something really runny
[12:27] <quixogre> evan__: hehe normally its the other way around...
[12:28] <denis__> oh
[12:28] <yamal> denis__: when you run systemsettings from the command line it will appear as usual. then just click any module that previously failed
[12:28] <shaffy> i am trying to run a perl script, but the instructions say i need to install "Config::Tiny, LWP::Simple and File::HomeDir" modules.   can anyone tell me how to install these perl modules?
[12:28] <evilidler> caravaka: Yep, they just make modifications and dis/enable a program in /etc/init.d/
[12:28] <quixogre> caravaka: correct
[12:28] <evilidler> caravaka: But having two init.d scripts affecting the tables can cause serious problems, including locking you out of your own box
[12:28] <denis__> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/5841
[12:28] <bleep2> uhm what do you actually type in the terminal to connect to the internet?
[12:28] <caravaka> ok. then what excatly does firestarted do when I click 'stop firewall" does it stop iptables underneath?
[12:29] <caravaka> i c.. so i'll make sure i run only one firewall
[12:29] <evilidler> caravaka: Yep, because each installs their own start/stop script, and doesn't know about the others
[12:29] <yamal> denis__: checking it out, may take some time
[12:29] <quixogre> bleep2: the fact that you cant connect to google is a not-good sign.
[12:29] <denis__> k
[12:29] <evilidler> There should have been a firewall category, just like the MTA category, so only one tool can exist at a time
[12:29] <caravaka> ohhh.. now i get the picture
[12:29] <caravaka> yaaa
[12:30] <bleep2> im giving up...
[12:30] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[12:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:30] <acee1234> i can no longer explore my ntfs partition from feisty, any ideas?
[12:30] <bleep2> i want to escape from Microsoft but i cant get internet :/
[12:30] <tekteen> ooo
[12:30] <evilidler> acee1234: ntfs-3g still installed?
[12:30] <tekteen> why not
[12:30] <acee1234> evilidler how do i check?
[12:30] <caravaka> why not escape altogether by kicking out ntfs?
[12:31] <tekteen> bleep2: why not
[12:31] <ScorpKing> bleep2: pls explain. i missed ur problem
[12:31] <evilidler> acee1234: Start Adept from the menus
[12:31] <bleep2> im trying  to migrate to kubuntu
[12:31] <tekteen> ok
[12:31] <uga> bleep2: ? [00:28]  <bleep2> uhm what do you actually type in the terminal to connect to the internet?
[12:31] <uga> what do you mean
[12:31] <tekteen> wat the problem
[12:31] <uga> you want to browse webs from command line?
[12:32] <quixogre> ScorpKing: bleeps trying to connect his linux laptop to the internet through a wierd ADSL router. he can set it up so that the router gives him a dynamic IP, but it wont let him connect out to the internet
[12:32] <uga> bleep2: as I understand, the modem's dhcp server gave you an ip already
[12:32] <acee1234> evilidler: yes it is installed
[12:32] <tekteen> bleep2: type "sudo apt-get install firefox" for a web browser
[12:32] <uga> beep2: what does ping www.google.com say
[12:32] <tekteen> ok
[12:32] <evilidler> acee1234: Is it an internal drive?
[12:32] <bleep2> brb
[12:32] <uga> tekteen: I think he's got the desktop setup. Just can't connect for some reason. Can't tell exactly what's going on
[12:33] <acee1234> evilidler: yes
[12:33] <tekteen> ok
[12:33] <tekteen> thx
[12:33] <jochen_> someon german there
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !de
[12:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:33] <quixogre> !de jochen_
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de jochen_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <evilidler> acee1234: OK, check your /etc/fstab and see if there's anything commented out about a fat, vfat or ntfs partition
[12:33] <ScorpKing> quixogre: dns or gateway problem? i know dns has to be set up on the router with the dhcp config. not sure what router he has tho.
[12:34] <ScorpKing> quixogre: dhcp settings on the router that is
[12:34] <quixogre> ScorpKing: its a doozy. it defaults to a class A network, when you run dhcp server on it
[12:34] <evilidler> ScorpKing: Looks like his ISP gives him Alcatel/Thomson modems, but I've never actually seen them with the router bits active
[12:34] <uga> quixogre: yours too, or you're talking about bleep's router =)
[12:34] <quixogre> uga talkin about bleeps
[12:35] <uga> quixogre: I'd first check if he can ping anything. If so, then the dns is working. if domain not working, he may have the dhcp server not providing dns names
[12:35] <ScorpKing> i wander what happens when he's online in windows... maybe he can figure out what's wrong from there.
[12:35] <quixogre> his static IP on his xp box is 10.0.0.150
[12:35] <ScorpKing> thats normal
[12:35] <acee1234> evilidler: "/..."means commented out correct?
[12:36] <evilidler> acee1234: # is the comment symbol in those files
[12:36] <uga> quixogre: how can he connect to irc, if he's setting up the router as dhcp and the xp box is set to static ip
[12:36] <quixogre> ScorpKing: he has two boxes. a linux laptop, and his XP pc. the xp box has a static class A ip address and connects just fine. thats what he's tlaking to us on
[12:36] <uga> quixogre: and then this: [23:51]  <bleep1> well istill can connect with my xp computer [23:51]  <uga> bleep1: and how are you connected here, now? [23:51]  <bleep1> on my xp computer
[12:36] <yamal> denis__: it's a bug, most likely this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/136563.
[12:36] <ScorpKing> quixogre: gateway and dns? dns and gateway should be 10.0.0.2 i think.
[12:36] <acee1234> evilidler: nothing is commented out then other that text descriptions
[12:36] <evilidler> bleep2: I think you might need to check ipconfig /all in windows and see if anything new is there
[12:36] <uga> quixogre: I think there's a linguistics problem =)
[12:36] <evilidler> acee1234: Pastebin the file?
[12:36] <Bleep> ping www.google.com    >    ping: unknown host www.google.com
[12:36] <acee1234> ok
[12:36] <quixogre> uga agreed
[12:37] <ScorpKing> Bleep = Bleep2 ?
[12:37] <Bleep> yep
[12:37] <quixogre> ScorpKing: yup
[12:37] <ScorpKing> ok
[12:37] <denis__> and how can i solve the problem yamal?
[12:37] <yamal> denis__: you might want to any relevant information you can provide to that bug report
[12:37] <yamal> denis__: other than that, no workaround known for as far as I  aware
[12:37] <ScorpKing> Bleep: what does ipconfig /all in windows show?
[12:37] <denis__> oh :(
[12:38] <acee1234>  evilidler http://pastebin.com/m57f01ac9
[12:38] <uga> ScorpKing: ifconfig =)
[12:38] <uga> winders users...
[12:38] <ScorpKing> xp
[12:38] <uga> oh, on windows
[12:38] <uga> sorry
[12:38] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:38] <Bleep> what do you want to know?
[12:38] <quixogre> uga: no, he wants the windows info first. see if its giving him a default gateway for the router
[12:38] <uga> right
[12:38] <ScorpKing> Bleep: dns and gateway