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tripzerois ubiquity's text ui usable?03:03
FujitsuDoes Ubiquity have a text UI?03:04
tripzeroaccording to the source it does... or what is the point of text.py?03:05
Burgundaviatripzero: if you want a text UI, use the alternate UI and d-i03:05
Fujitsutripzero: I see no text.py..03:06
tripzeroubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/text.py03:06
FujitsuDoesn't exist in 1.6.0 (the latest)03:06
tripzerohmmm, lemme check03:07
tripzeroBurgundavia, what do you mean alternate UI? alternate cd?03:08
Burgundaviatripzero: the alternate cd, yes03:08
Burgundaviawhat do you need a text UI for?03:08
tripzerofujitsu, you're right, it isn't in the latest03:09
tripzerothe gtk frontend is blowing up on me03:09
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Burgundaviaare you running gutsy beta or 7.04?03:10
tripzero7.0403:10
tripzerofujitsu, there is a non-interactive.py?03:14
Burgundaviatripzero: the scripting stuff has only landed in gutsy, afaik03:15
Burgundaviatripzero: if you are having issues installing 7.04, I would suggest you try the forums or the mailing list03:16
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tripzerothanks Burundavia03:23
Burgundaviatripzero: if you want to, we need people to help test the beta release03:23
Burgundaviaare you able to help out with that?03:23
tripzeroyeah03:25
tripzerowhat do you need?03:25
Burgundaviabasically, download the cd and test the install03:26
Burgundaviagiven you are having install issues03:26
tripzerookay03:26
tripzerowill do03:26
tripzerobtw, shouldn't gconf2 be a dependency of ubiquity?03:28
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lamontlooks like maybe ports mirroring is b0rked again05:08
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=== jdong thinks o3read needs a wrapper like o3less or o3cat
jdongunzip -p foo.odt content.xml | o3totxt | less is a RIDICULOUS workflow, no?06:11
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LaserJockjdong: that'd be cool06:13
ion_I read my man pages with zcat /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz | nroff -man | less, you insensitive clod!06:13
bddebianheh06:16
jdongion_: lol06:23
jdongLaserJock: where do we get o3read from? I am guessing it's the wrong part of the release cycle to add new commands?06:23
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defconcan someone assign this bug to gutsy or the correct place https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-i810/+bug/14672807:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 146728 in xorg "[Gutsy Beta]  Dots on 16bit Video i810" [Undecided,New] 07:35
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minghuadefcon: Isn't it already assigned to too many different packages?07:42
defconminghua, i dont know which package it should be assigned07:43
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minghuadefcon: But blindly assigning them to half a dozen packages doesn't help.07:50
minghuadefcon: If you want to help, go to #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-bugs, ask people there to figure out exactly which package it should be assigned to.07:51
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TomaszDRestricted-manager is still in English despite being fully translated for a long long time :(10:36
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mdkeTomaszD: did you file a bug?10:45
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siretartperhaps the latest language pack hasn't been installed yet10:45
TomaszDmdke, no, I subscribed to an existing one10:45
TomaszDno no, I have all the latest and greatest :] 10:45
TomaszDr-m moved to the restricted section and there is some kind of an infrastructural problem10:46
TomaszDis that even a word... infrastructural10:46
TomaszD;] 10:46
siretartTomaszD: installed to the archive ;)10:47
mdkeTomaszD: even better10:47
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nrdbwith the LiveCD when is the unionfs started ?  I have looked in the initrd file but cant find it there, or in the init.d scripts once its booted11:27
stgraberbryce: Can I milestone bug 145843 and increase priority a bit, it's very annoying for terminal users11:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 145843 in compiz "Compiz maximizing unreliable" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14584311:27
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Kopfgeldjaegerhi11:28
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brycestgraber: since it's a compiz bug, you may want to talk with mvo and/or travis about it11:31
stgraberok, will ping them tomorrow11:32
bryceI'm not sure what the rules are for compiz regarding priority and milestoning, but I wouldn't expect it to be controversial to increase the priority to medium11:33
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stgraberbryce: ok, I have set priority to medium and confirmed it11:34
brycefor X bugs, one thing I know that can often help a lot more than setting the priority, is to do some upstream research and try identifying potential patches to test11:35
pwnguinit seems simple enough to fix11:36
pwnguinturn off hinting on maximize11:36
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bryceheya pitti11:36
pittihi11:36
pittibryce: wow, what are you doing online that late on a Saturday night? :)11:37
pwnguingnome-term is hinting that it should be a certain size since it's a fixed width terminal =/11:37
bryceheh, I've been majorly reorganizing my office; it's been keeping me up11:38
bryceGame Day is tomorrow, so it's my goal to have all the reorganizing done so I can show it off.  ;-)11:38
pwnguinstgraber: if you want to fix gnometerm, bring up ccsm and set "ignore hints on maximize"11:39
stgraberpwnguin: worked, thanks. Anyway, this should be fixed (or set by default) for Gutsy11:41
StevenKpitti: If you want to kick opal-2.2.0 out for NBS in a little while, NEW the new opal, and then everything should sort itself out11:42
pittiwow, so many NEW packages -- we are in FF and everything..11:43
Kmospitti: the apport-gtk was having problems on gutsy beta11:46
nrdbwith the LiveCD when is the unionfs started ?  I have looked in the initrd file but cant find it there, or in the init.d scripts once its booted11:46
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cjwatsonnrdb: /scripts/casper in the initramfs11:54
cjwatsonnrdb: (please just ask once, BTW - I saw the first question)11:55
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nrdbcjwatson: found it thanks.12:37
xerakkocjwatson, is possible to use more than one repository in germinate?12:40
cjwatsonxerakko: not at the moment, it's on the wishlist12:42
xerakko:/ Thanks12:42
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asisakGo StevenK! :D01:02
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Whoopiemjg59: could you explain me the difference between /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness and actual_brightness? because on my Samsung laptop, brightness = 4 but actual_brightness = 11.01:39
Whoopieshouldn't they be the same?01:39
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MacSlowGreetings everybody!02:46
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stgraberhi MacSlow02:55
MacSlowhi stgraber02:55
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moyogohi03:17
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mjg59Whoopie: Brightness is what's been set, actual_brightness is what the backlight is running at04:08
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attunixI installed ubuntustudio-desktop and I decided I didn't like it so I removed it. Now the boot/load screen is still there. How can I get my old Ubuntu load screen back?04:47
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sladenattunix: sudo update-usplash-theme04:48
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sitsI have a very long powersaving email that I was planning on sending to the ubuntu-devel-discuss list - http://sucs.org/~sits/test/powerusage05:19
sitsdoes anyone have any thoughts on it?05:20
Hobbsee!weekend05:23
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Hobbseegah, no ubotu05:24
sitsHobbsee: heh05:26
sitsHobbsee: any thoughts on my powerusage email?05:27
Hobbseenone at all, havent read it05:28
Hobbseeas it's a sunday night and all05:28
sitsah fair enough05:29
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ubunt1pfuuu06:34
Cyrixexit06:34
ubunt1hey make something like daemon tools for gutsy06:34
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Hobbseeubunt1: please see the /topic, then read man mount.06:38
ubunt1i see it06:39
Hobbseethen you'd know that this is an inappropriate place for your question?06:39
ubunt1hehe06:41
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MagnusRhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cloughridge/478583038/07:51
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DaSkreechogra: ping08:01
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TomaszDeasy fix if you happen to have time, add build-depend on intltool to gnome-screensaver https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/14733708:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147337 in gnome-screensaver "[gutsy]  gnome-screensaver doesn't build-depend on intltool, template not updated" [Undecided,Confirmed] 08:27
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bddebianheya10:14
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bethkoOk, I would like to talk to someone about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/webcam10:38
LaserJockemail would probably work best10:39
bethkoWe need plug and play for webcams10:39
mjg59What's currently lacking in that respect?10:40
mjg59(Other than working drivers)10:40
bethkoI am not a devolper I just want this to be move to proirity for 8.0410:40
mjg59Uhm.10:40
mjg59We already supply the driver from http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html10:40
mjg59So if it's not working, it would be nice to figure out why :)10:41
bethkoyour it would10:41
bethkoyeah it waould10:41
bethkoI hate this keyboard10:41
mjg59As long as you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed, the gspca module should be automatically loaded for any of those cameras10:42
hungerAny idea what is breaking bluetooth?10:42
bethkoAny way , we also need a way to make video files.10:42
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bethkoIs that package installed by defualt?10:43
mjg59bethko: Yes10:43
bethkook10:44
bethkoso the problem seems to be making vedios and using the video phone.10:44
mjg59ekiga should work fine with them10:45
bethkoshould being the key word10:45
mjg59Well, how does it fail?10:45
mjg59It was happy with the gspca device I tried it with last month10:45
bethkoodd10:46
bethkoI have never been able to get the video phone to work10:47
mjg59How does it fail?10:47
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bethkoWell theres the issue of the cam feed not going through in self preview. and then I can never get it to connect to another person10:48
bethkoskype works fine for voice so I asume my hareware is ok.10:49
bethkoI work with the deaf and blind10:51
mjg59If you hit alt+f2 and type gstreamer-properties, then click video and make sure the "Default Input" line is set to "Video for Linux", what happens when you click "Test"?10:51
bethkoDeaf people like to use their webcams to talk to each other10:51
bethkoDon't know. It's Sunday, I'm not in the office10:52
mjg59Ok. If you could do that and let me know what happens, that would be helpful10:52
mjg59It makes it clear whether it's a kernel issue or an application issue10:52
bethkoVideo for Linux (v4l): Device "/dev/video0" does not exist.10:54
bethkoI don't have any webcams here though10:54
mjg59Right, sorry, I meant with your work machine10:54
bethkooh, yeah that would probalay be more usefull10:55
bethkoThe webcam issues are keeping a lot of deaf people from switching10:56
bethkoto Ubutu10:56
bethkoI need a new keyboard too10:56
mjg59We'd love to fix them, but as I said everything works here, so it's hard to know what the problem is10:57
bethkoDo you know of any way to recoerd the webcam feed to a video file?10:57
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mjg59cheese can do it10:58
bethkocheese?10:58
mjg59Yeah10:58
mjg59Should show up in synaptic10:58
bethkoNot to mention make me hungry10:59
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bethkoDidn't find it11:01
mjg59It's in universe in gutsy11:01
bethkoI'm using 7.0411:02
mjg59Yeah, it's new11:02
bethkoLast time I upgraded to beta firefox got lost for a month11:03
mjg59Final will be out on the 18th11:03
bethkoI have to wait 18 more days, how unfair11:03
Whoopiemjg59: btw, did you find the time to look at uswsusp?11:04
mjg59Not yet11:04
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mjg59hunger: What's up?11:05
hungermjg59: Doesn't work in either kubuntu or ubuntu.11:05
mjg59Works for me11:05
hungermjg59: kubuntu complains about there being no bluez running, ubuntu says nothing.11:06
mjg59Hm. I'll take a look.11:06
hungerand that is after i removed the junk from the start of the kblueplugd.11:06
hungermjg59: There are several bugs open about bluetooth, so I did not open yet another one.11:06
hungerToggeling BT on/off does no longer work on my thinkpad either... have to set the stuff via /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth:-(11:08
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Whoopiemjg59: your latest hotkey-setup changed the hotkey mask for thinkpads to 0xffffff. doesn't this turn on bluetooth control in userspace?11:13
mjg59Whoopie: Hm, yes. That really ought to be fffeff11:16
mjg59Thinko on my part. I'll rectify.11:16
Whoopiemjg59: /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad_acpi.modprobe has 0xffff8f.11:17
mjg59Nf. Yes, sorry, ffffef11:18
Whoopiemjg59: why do you change the mask?11:20
sladenWhoopie: so we can get bits  0xffxxxx  which are the special thinkpad/volume/zoom/brightness/light keys11:25
Whoopiesladen: hi11:26
superm1well that's odd, an update appears to have made my thinkpad display+/- keys not show correctly in the gnome display for brightness11:27
Whoopiesladen: why do you change 0xffff8f to 0xffffef?11:27
sladenWhoopie: to try and leave the vga switching in hardware11:28
mjg59Whoopie: To let the video handling be done in software on drivers that support it11:29
Whoopieok, thanks11:29
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Whoopiemjg59: I never understood this mask ;) It's not well documented.11:36
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poningruanyone able to install codeanalyst?12:00
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