[03:03] <tripzero> is ubiquity's text ui usable?
[03:04] <Fujitsu> Does Ubiquity have a text UI?
[03:05] <tripzero> according to the source it does... or what is the point of text.py?
[03:05] <Burgundavia> tripzero: if you want a text UI, use the alternate UI and d-i
[03:06] <Fujitsu> tripzero: I see no text.py..
[03:06] <tripzero> ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/text.py
[03:06] <Fujitsu> Doesn't exist in 1.6.0 (the latest)
[03:07] <tripzero> hmmm, lemme check
[03:08] <tripzero> Burgundavia, what do you mean alternate UI? alternate cd?
[03:08] <Burgundavia> tripzero: the alternate cd, yes
[03:08] <Burgundavia> what do you need a text UI for?
[03:09] <tripzero> fujitsu, you're right, it isn't in the latest
[03:09] <tripzero> the gtk frontend is blowing up on me
[03:10] <Burgundavia> are you running gutsy beta or 7.04?
[03:10] <tripzero> 7.04
[03:14] <tripzero> fujitsu, there is a non-interactive.py?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> tripzero: the scripting stuff has only landed in gutsy, afaik
[03:16] <Burgundavia> tripzero: if you are having issues installing 7.04, I would suggest you try the forums or the mailing list
[03:23] <tripzero> thanks Burundavia
[03:23] <Burgundavia> tripzero: if you want to, we need people to help test the beta release
[03:23] <Burgundavia> are you able to help out with that?
[03:25] <tripzero> yeah
[03:25] <tripzero> what do you need?
[03:26] <Burgundavia> basically, download the cd and test the install
[03:26] <Burgundavia> given you are having install issues
[03:26] <tripzero> okay
[03:26] <tripzero> will do
[03:28] <tripzero> btw, shouldn't gconf2 be a dependency of ubiquity?
[05:08] <lamont> looks like maybe ports mirroring is b0rked again
[06:11] <jdong> unzip -p foo.odt content.xml | o3totxt | less is a RIDICULOUS workflow, no?
[06:13] <LaserJock> jdong: that'd be cool
[06:13] <ion_> I read my man pages with zcat /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz | nroff -man | less, you insensitive clod!
[06:16] <bddebian> heh
[06:23] <jdong> ion_: lol
[06:23] <jdong> LaserJock: where do we get o3read from? I am guessing it's the wrong part of the release cycle to add new commands?
[07:35] <defcon> can someone assign this bug to gutsy or the correct place https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-i810/+bug/146728
[07:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 146728 in xorg "[Gutsy Beta]  Dots on 16bit Video i810" [Undecided,New] 
[07:42] <minghua> defcon: Isn't it already assigned to too many different packages?
[07:43] <defcon> minghua, i dont know which package it should be assigned
[07:50] <minghua> defcon: But blindly assigning them to half a dozen packages doesn't help.
[07:51] <minghua> defcon: If you want to help, go to #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-bugs, ask people there to figure out exactly which package it should be assigned to.
[10:36] <TomaszD> Restricted-manager is still in English despite being fully translated for a long long time :(
[10:45] <mdke> TomaszD: did you file a bug?
[10:45] <siretart> perhaps the latest language pack hasn't been installed yet
[10:45] <TomaszD> mdke, no, I subscribed to an existing one
[10:45] <TomaszD> no no, I have all the latest and greatest :] 
[10:46] <TomaszD> r-m moved to the restricted section and there is some kind of an infrastructural problem
[10:46] <TomaszD> is that even a word... infrastructural
[10:46] <TomaszD> ;] 
[10:47] <siretart> TomaszD: installed to the archive ;)
[10:47] <mdke> TomaszD: even better
[11:27] <nrdb> with the LiveCD when is the unionfs started ?  I have looked in the initrd file but cant find it there, or in the init.d scripts once its booted
[11:27] <stgraber> bryce: Can I milestone bug 145843 and increase priority a bit, it's very annoying for terminal users
[11:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145843 in compiz "Compiz maximizing unreliable" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145843
[11:28] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[11:31] <bryce> stgraber: since it's a compiz bug, you may want to talk with mvo and/or travis about it
[11:32] <stgraber> ok, will ping them tomorrow
[11:33] <bryce> I'm not sure what the rules are for compiz regarding priority and milestoning, but I wouldn't expect it to be controversial to increase the priority to medium
[11:34] <stgraber> bryce: ok, I have set priority to medium and confirmed it
[11:35] <bryce> for X bugs, one thing I know that can often help a lot more than setting the priority, is to do some upstream research and try identifying potential patches to test
[11:36] <pwnguin> it seems simple enough to fix
[11:36] <pwnguin> turn off hinting on maximize
[11:36] <bryce> heya pitti
[11:36] <pitti> hi
[11:37] <pitti> bryce: wow, what are you doing online that late on a Saturday night? :)
[11:37] <pwnguin> gnome-term is hinting that it should be a certain size since it's a fixed width terminal =/
[11:38] <bryce> heh, I've been majorly reorganizing my office; it's been keeping me up
[11:38] <bryce> Game Day is tomorrow, so it's my goal to have all the reorganizing done so I can show it off.  ;-)
[11:39] <pwnguin> stgraber: if you want to fix gnometerm, bring up ccsm and set "ignore hints on maximize"
[11:41] <stgraber> pwnguin: worked, thanks. Anyway, this should be fixed (or set by default) for Gutsy
[11:42] <StevenK> pitti: If you want to kick opal-2.2.0 out for NBS in a little while, NEW the new opal, and then everything should sort itself out
[11:43] <pitti> wow, so many NEW packages -- we are in FF and everything..
[11:46] <Kmos> pitti: the apport-gtk was having problems on gutsy beta
[11:46] <nrdb> with the LiveCD when is the unionfs started ?  I have looked in the initrd file but cant find it there, or in the init.d scripts once its booted
[11:54] <cjwatson> nrdb: /scripts/casper in the initramfs
[11:55] <cjwatson> nrdb: (please just ask once, BTW - I saw the first question)
[12:37] <nrdb> cjwatson: found it thanks.
[12:40] <xerakko> cjwatson, is possible to use more than one repository in germinate?
[12:42] <cjwatson> xerakko: not at the moment, it's on the wishlist
[12:42] <xerakko> :/ Thanks
[01:02] <asisak> Go StevenK! :D
[01:39] <Whoopie> mjg59: could you explain me the difference between /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness and actual_brightness? because on my Samsung laptop, brightness = 4 but actual_brightness = 11.
[01:39] <Whoopie> shouldn't they be the same?
[02:46] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[02:55] <stgraber> hi MacSlow
[02:55] <MacSlow> hi stgraber
[03:17] <moyogo> hi
[04:08] <mjg59> Whoopie: Brightness is what's been set, actual_brightness is what the backlight is running at
[04:47] <attunix> I installed ubuntustudio-desktop and I decided I didn't like it so I removed it. Now the boot/load screen is still there. How can I get my old Ubuntu load screen back?
[04:48] <sladen> attunix: sudo update-usplash-theme
[05:19] <sits> I have a very long powersaving email that I was planning on sending to the ubuntu-devel-discuss list - http://sucs.org/~sits/test/powerusage
[05:20] <sits> does anyone have any thoughts on it?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> !weekend
[05:24] <Hobbsee> gah, no ubotu
[05:26] <sits> Hobbsee: heh
[05:27] <sits> Hobbsee: any thoughts on my powerusage email?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> none at all, havent read it
[05:28] <Hobbsee> as it's a sunday night and all
[05:29] <sits> ah fair enough
[06:34] <ubunt1> pfuuu
[06:34] <Cyrix> exit
[06:34] <ubunt1> hey make something like daemon tools for gutsy
[06:38] <Hobbsee> ubunt1: please see the /topic, then read man mount.
[06:39] <ubunt1> i see it
[06:39] <Hobbsee> then you'd know that this is an inappropriate place for your question?
[06:41] <ubunt1> hehe
[07:51] <MagnusR> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cloughridge/478583038/
[08:01] <DaSkreech> ogra: ping
[08:27] <TomaszD> easy fix if you happen to have time, add build-depend on intltool to gnome-screensaver https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/147337
[08:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 147337 in gnome-screensaver "[gutsy]  gnome-screensaver doesn't build-depend on intltool, template not updated" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[10:14] <bddebian> heya
[10:38] <bethko> Ok, I would like to talk to someone about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/webcam
[10:39] <LaserJock> email would probably work best
[10:39] <bethko> We need plug and play for webcams
[10:40] <mjg59> What's currently lacking in that respect?
[10:40] <mjg59> (Other than working drivers)
[10:40] <bethko> I am not a devolper I just want this to be move to proirity for 8.04
[10:40] <mjg59> Uhm.
[10:40] <mjg59> We already supply the driver from http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[10:41] <mjg59> So if it's not working, it would be nice to figure out why :)
[10:41] <bethko> your it would
[10:41] <bethko> yeah it waould
[10:41] <bethko> I hate this keyboard
[10:42] <mjg59> As long as you have linux-ubuntu-modules installed, the gspca module should be automatically loaded for any of those cameras
[10:42] <hunger> Any idea what is breaking bluetooth?
[10:42] <bethko> Any way , we also need a way to make video files.
[10:43] <bethko> Is that package installed by defualt?
[10:43] <mjg59> bethko: Yes
[10:44] <bethko> ok
[10:44] <bethko> so the problem seems to be making vedios and using the video phone.
[10:45] <mjg59> ekiga should work fine with them
[10:45] <bethko> should being the key word
[10:45] <mjg59> Well, how does it fail?
[10:45] <mjg59> It was happy with the gspca device I tried it with last month
[10:46] <bethko> odd
[10:47] <bethko> I have never been able to get the video phone to work
[10:47] <mjg59> How does it fail?
[10:48] <bethko> Well theres the issue of the cam feed not going through in self preview. and then I can never get it to connect to another person
[10:49] <bethko> skype works fine for voice so I asume my hareware is ok.
[10:51] <bethko> I work with the deaf and blind
[10:51] <mjg59> If you hit alt+f2 and type gstreamer-properties, then click video and make sure the "Default Input" line is set to "Video for Linux", what happens when you click "Test"?
[10:51] <bethko> Deaf people like to use their webcams to talk to each other
[10:52] <bethko> Don't know. It's Sunday, I'm not in the office
[10:52] <mjg59> Ok. If you could do that and let me know what happens, that would be helpful
[10:52] <mjg59> It makes it clear whether it's a kernel issue or an application issue
[10:54] <bethko> Video for Linux (v4l): Device "/dev/video0" does not exist.
[10:54] <bethko> I don't have any webcams here though
[10:54] <mjg59> Right, sorry, I meant with your work machine
[10:55] <bethko> oh, yeah that would probalay be more usefull
[10:56] <bethko> The webcam issues are keeping a lot of deaf people from switching
[10:56] <bethko> to Ubutu
[10:56] <bethko> I need a new keyboard too
[10:57] <mjg59> We'd love to fix them, but as I said everything works here, so it's hard to know what the problem is
[10:57] <bethko> Do you know of any way to recoerd the webcam feed to a video file?
[10:58] <mjg59> cheese can do it
[10:58] <bethko> cheese?
[10:58] <mjg59> Yeah
[10:58] <mjg59> Should show up in synaptic
[10:59] <bethko> Not to mention make me hungry
[11:01] <bethko> Didn't find it
[11:01] <mjg59> It's in universe in gutsy
[11:02] <bethko> I'm using 7.04
[11:02] <mjg59> Yeah, it's new
[11:03] <bethko> Last time I upgraded to beta firefox got lost for a month
[11:03] <mjg59> Final will be out on the 18th
[11:03] <bethko> I have to wait 18 more days, how unfair
[11:04] <Whoopie> mjg59: btw, did you find the time to look at uswsusp?
[11:04] <mjg59> Not yet
[11:05] <mjg59> hunger: What's up?
[11:05] <hunger> mjg59: Doesn't work in either kubuntu or ubuntu.
[11:05] <mjg59> Works for me
[11:06] <hunger> mjg59: kubuntu complains about there being no bluez running, ubuntu says nothing.
[11:06] <mjg59> Hm. I'll take a look.
[11:06] <hunger> and that is after i removed the junk from the start of the kblueplugd.
[11:06] <hunger> mjg59: There are several bugs open about bluetooth, so I did not open yet another one.
[11:08] <hunger> Toggeling BT on/off does no longer work on my thinkpad either... have to set the stuff via /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth:-(
[11:13] <Whoopie> mjg59: your latest hotkey-setup changed the hotkey mask for thinkpads to 0xffffff. doesn't this turn on bluetooth control in userspace?
[11:16] <mjg59> Whoopie: Hm, yes. That really ought to be fffeff
[11:16] <mjg59> Thinko on my part. I'll rectify.
[11:17] <Whoopie> mjg59: /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad_acpi.modprobe has 0xffff8f.
[11:18] <mjg59> Nf. Yes, sorry, ffffef
[11:20] <Whoopie> mjg59: why do you change the mask?
[11:25] <sladen> Whoopie: so we can get bits  0xffxxxx  which are the special thinkpad/volume/zoom/brightness/light keys
[11:26] <Whoopie> sladen: hi
[11:27] <superm1> well that's odd, an update appears to have made my thinkpad display+/- keys not show correctly in the gnome display for brightness
[11:27] <Whoopie> sladen: why do you change 0xffff8f to 0xffffef?
[11:28] <sladen> Whoopie: to try and leave the vga switching in hardware
[11:29] <mjg59> Whoopie: To let the video handling be done in software on drivers that support it
[11:29] <Whoopie> ok, thanks
[11:36] <Whoopie> mjg59: I never understood this mask ;) It's not well documented.
[12:00] <poningru> anyone able to install codeanalyst?