[12:38] <evilidler> acee1234: OK, no hints of an old drive there. Do you know if the NTFS partition is on hda or what device?
[12:38] <ScorpKing> on windows
[12:39] <evilidler> acee1234: Wait, sda1
[12:39] <evilidler> acee1234: You should have it mounted on /media/sda1/
[12:39] <uga> quixogre: I still think kubuntu should provide "backdoors" that the user could enable to do remote management from here ;)
[12:39] <Bleep> dns: 195.121.1.66   195.121.1.66
[12:39] <acee1234> evilidler: is it not>
[12:39] <quixogre> uga hehe if you know remote IP, rsh ;)
[12:39] <Bleep> default gateway: 80.60.148.25
[12:40] <denis__> my vlc player is running, but i closed it, helpt whats to do? oO
[12:40] <Mr_Sonoma> uh may i interject a simple thought here??? is the network software showing a active connection, IRRC i had to go to manual configuration on the networking icon in the lower right and set it to automatically "activate when computer starts" or you had to right click on the Knetworkmanager and select wired or wireless network depending on what system you were running in order to get the computer talking to the network/internet.
[12:40] <evilidler> acee1234: From a terminal, try: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[12:40] <ScorpKing> Bleep: thats odd. the gateway should be the router ip
[12:40] <denis__> i can't get my dvd out of my pc
[12:40] <Bleep> actually that's my pc's ip
[12:40] <uga> quixogre: that'd require to provide passwords. Not good
[12:40] <evilidler> denis__: If it's showing on the desktop, rightclick and select eject
[12:40] <denis__> no it's not
[12:41] <denis__> i just can here the sound
[12:41] <Bleep> im confused lol...
[12:41] <denis__> but no picture and no program
[12:41] <quixogre> uga, or setup a temporary user....then again, thats opening a completely DIFFERENT can of worms
[12:41] <ScorpKing> Bleep: are both boxes connected to the same router?
[12:41] <denis__> oh you mean the dvd
[12:41] <denis__> when i click eject
[12:41] <quixogre> ScorpKing: he has to remove network cable from one, to connect the other. thus the multiple bleeps
[12:41] <uga> quixogre: I was thinking in the krfb invitations - line
[12:41] <denis__> there comes an eror
[12:41] <Bleep> :p
[12:42] <acee1234> evilidler: http://pastebin.com/m2faa4d73
[12:42] <ScorpKing> uga: ssh will do tho. :P
[12:42] <quixogre> uga, not familair with that. whats it do?
[12:42] <denis__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:42] <denis__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:42] <acee1234> evilidler: force?
[12:42] <uga> quixogre: run "krfb" and you'll see
[12:42] <evilidler> quixogre: Hold it..I suspect what's wrong is that he's not RELEASING old IPs, and that might mess up
[12:42] <yamal> denis__: and please do follow up on that bug report if you can, it's still marked incomplete (and thus unconfirmed) so your input can actually be valuable.
[12:42] <denis__> evilidler:
[12:42] <denis__> yamal
[12:42] <ibilic> what's the file where all the partition information is?
[12:42] <uga> quixogre: remove desktop access. vnc-like, but it lets access to the running desktop
[12:42] <denis__> i don't know anything about linux
[12:43] <uga> quixogre: s/remove/remote
[12:43] <denis__> i have installed it today the first time
[12:43] <acee1234> why did evilidler go poof?
[12:43] <evilidler> acee1234: OK, what's the output from "mount -a"
[12:43] <evilidler> acee1234: Because I hit ctrl-w, thinking I was in the browser!
[12:43] <ScorpKing> Bleep: so the linux box connects to the xp box which have internet?
[12:43] <acee1234> evilidler ah
[12:43] <Bleep> no
[12:43] <ScorpKing> ?
[12:43] <Bleep> just disconnect the plug for xp computer
[12:44] <ScorpKing> oh
[12:44] <ibilic> nevermind it's fstab
[12:44] <Bleep> so its modem > eth0 laptop
[12:44] <uga> ScorpKing: TDSA
[12:44] <Silsa> What can I install as far as antispyware and virus?
[12:44] <uga> ScorpKing: (Time Division Single Access) =)
[12:44] <evilidler> Silsa: ?
[12:44] <uga> vs TDMA
[12:44] <ScorpKing> Bleep: what is the routers ip? 10.0.0.?
[12:44] <acee1234> evilidler: http://pastebin.com/m4ca6cce8
[12:44] <Mr_Sonoma> ScorpKing, Bleep uga did you see my thought i posted?? overly simple yes, but sometimes the simple is overlooked =)
[12:45] <Silsa> evilidler: ?
[12:45] <Bleep> uh router?
[12:45] <uga> Mr_Sonoma: what?
[12:45] <Mr_Sonoma> uga, uh may i interject a simple thought here??? is the network software showing a active connection, IRRC i had to go to manual configuration on the networking icon in the lower right and set it to automatically "activate when computer starts" or you had to right click on the Knetworkmanager and select wired or wireless network depending on what system you were running in order to get the computer talking to the network/internet.
[12:45] <ScorpKing> i did
[12:45] <evilidler> acee1234: Wait, I meant "df". Yep. Slip of the fingers. They're so close!
[12:46] <quixogre> Mr_Sonoma: way past that. but good idea
[12:46] <uga> Mr_Sonoma: oh, we're setting it all up from cmd line
[12:46] <uga> no gui involved
[12:46] <ScorpKing> Bleep: the little box that gives you internet.
[12:46] <evilidler> Silsa: What viruses and spyware do you need to protect against?
[12:46] <uga> Mr_Sonoma: dhclient directly... etc
[12:46] <Bleep> 10.0.0.138
[12:46] <ibilic> what's a partition manager for Kubuntu that can create partitions?
[12:46] <acee1234> evilidler so whats the command?
[12:46] <evilidler> acee1234: df - just those two letters
[12:46] <quixogre> evilidler: what if someone tries to install windows on my boxen whilst im sleeping????
[12:46] <Silsa> evilidler: Umm... all of them. I'm new to linux and am not sure what's good to use
[12:47] <ScorpKing> Bleep: so if you go to that address you can cofigure the router?
[12:47] <evilidler> Silsa: Linux IS your protection.
[12:47] <Bleep> yes
[12:47] <uga> ibilic: parted/qtparted
[12:47] <Mr_Sonoma> =) ok well i just sat down and scrolled back up and didnt see where that had been gone over but did see what looked like he was a new user and thought to myself what's the most overly simple thing that us more experiance users might just "assume/overlook" thats all
[12:47] <ScorpKing> configure*
[12:47] <Mr_Sonoma> i'll let yall have it =)
[12:47] <quixogre> silsa hehe there arent very many virii for linux. not to say they dont exist, but when one comes out, the "
[12:47] <BluesKaj> !virus
[12:47] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:47] <denis__> heelp :(
[12:47] <Silsa> evilidler: So you're saying i'll never need an anti-virus or spyware protectioin because im using linux? Somehow i find that hard to believe
[12:47] <evilidler> There are no viruses "in the wild" because "the wild" on Linux is like a harsh planet with no atmosphere
[12:47] <uga> Mr_Sonoma: thatnks to knetworkmanager lots of confusions like that happen, you're right. Thanks for noting
[12:48] <ScorpKing> Bleep: will you be able to pastebin the dhcp config page on the router?
[12:48] <evilidler> Silsa: Different security model. You don't do ANYTHING but installing system software as root, optimally.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Silsa, read above
[12:48] <acee1234> evilidler: http://pastebin.com/m45e8f9c1
[12:48] <ubuntu__> hello
[12:48] <quixogre> Silsa: the community as a whole tends to not worry about viruses, because very few viruses can survive long in linux. the community as a whole is fairly well educated, and tends to destroy them too quick for them to become a nuisance
[12:49] <ubuntu__> problems intstalling gutsy beta
[12:49] <Silsa> Ok
[12:49] <uga> Silsa: it's nice to install clamav and scan any weird files you may receive, to inform your colleagues. But you won't need an actively scanning antivirus
[12:49] <denis__> HEEELP!!!
[12:49] <ubuntu__> the screen comes up blank
[12:49] <evilidler> acee1234: What's on disk sda and what's on sdb? Let's find out..
[12:49] <ubuntu__> when doing the live cd
[12:49] <uga> Silsa: if you want something to scan what's happenning in yoru network, you can install snort
[12:49] <ubuntu__> on more that one pc
[12:49] <ScorpKing> Silsa: there are a few virusses for linux but they are VERY rare.
[12:49] <evilidler> acee1234: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" first, and type "p" and enter in it
[12:49] <Mr_Sonoma> denis__, what is your problem? if you ask a question you might get help.
[12:49] <ScorpKing> Silsa: they are not in the wild. :P
[12:50] <evilidler> Unless you run viruses as root, they don't survive. Full stop.
[12:50] <Silsa> Well, what's good to use as far as a firewall that alerts me of new connection attempts and allows me to select whether they are allowed or not as they happen?
[12:50] <Silsa> and thx for the info on viruses
[12:50] <denis__> i asked a question^^
[12:50] <quixogre> those who run viruses as root are idiots, and the rules of survival the fittest cull them quickly
[12:50] <denis__> but no one could help so far Mr_Sonoma
[12:50] <denis__> two modules are lost in the systemsettings
[12:50] <acee1234> evilidler: http://pastebin.com/mff125c5
[12:50] <com64> hey all im pretty new to linux and I'm having a prob that even my linux-addicted techie friend can't figure out... i've just been mucking around online, had a few windows open etc and then boom - graphics fail, panels and icons disappear, and never come back.
[12:51] <uga> Silsa: a nice firewall system that does logging is shorewall, but you'd need to configure it, and it won't popup alerts
[12:51] <evilidler> Silsa: You'll find we have a society quite like cavemen here, but it's all for the greater good ;)
[12:51] <quixogre> silsa, if you want a popup everytime an application tries to run, get windows vista
[12:51] <ScorpKing> Bleep: ? still here?
[12:51] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:51] <tomer> i guess gutsy is not ready for prime time yet
[12:51] <Bleep> here: http://pastebin.com/d1be3213
[12:51] <tomer> simple live cd does not work, even
[12:51] <uga> Silsa: if each time a box got tried by an attacker you had a popup, you'd go nuts. I read snort alerts now and then and I can get hundreds
[12:51] <tomer> who decided to release it?
[12:51] <ibilic> ok how do I use qtparted to create a new fat32 partition... it tells me that it is a virtual partition
[12:51] <Silsa> quixogre: That's not what i want... if i download an app that sends traffic through a certain port i'd want a firewall to pop up once the first time it's ran to ask me if i want to allow it or not...
[12:52] <evilidler> acee1234: "quit" to leave that program - we now know that sda1 and sda3 are NTFS partitions
[12:52] <quixogre> bbiaf., wife needs to print, and neither of my fscking printers is linux friendly
[12:52] <uga> Silsa: there's no tools like that for linux, afaik
[12:52] <uga> Silsa: I understand what you mean now
[12:52] <uga> you'd need to check what failed and open it yourself, manually
[12:52] <evilidler> acee1234: Now edit the /etc/fstab as root to change sda2 to sda1, and maybe add another entry for sda3 just like it
[12:53] <quixogre> silsa, if you dont know how to confingure a firewall properly, then i see your point. me personally, i'd rather set it, forget it, and not have ANY annoying pop-ups
[12:53] <acee1234> evilidler: sudo kate /ect/fstab?
[12:53] <evilidler> acee1234: kdesu kate is better
[12:53] <Wendy> hello all
[12:53] <Silsa> quixogre: If that's the way things work then im all for it. What would be the best bet to get again then?
[12:54] <Wendy> trying to install gutsy beta.. no luck so far... any ideas...? using the livecd
[12:54] <uga> Silsa: you can use something like Alerttail, which alerts you each time a file (a firewall log file) changes
[12:54] <quixogre> silsa, im old school....but if you need a gui front end then try !Guarddog
[12:54] <acee1234> evilidler: didnt do anything
[12:54] <quixogre> !guarddog
[12:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:54] <Silsa> uga: Ah cool, that'll help me out. Thx
[12:54] <evilidler> I've found the quality of Ubuntu betas to be inversely proportional to the end-product at release. In other words, betas suck and releases rock.
[12:54] <Wendy> yes sure seems taht way
[12:55] <JimmyDee_> as opposed to the inverse at microsoft
[12:55] <Wendy> screen goes blank right after the boot.. and then it is dead
[12:55] <quixogre> okies. bbl all
[12:55] <evilidler> acee1234: OK, try "sudo nano /etc/fstab", modify sda2 to read sda1, ctrl-o to save (enter) and ctrl-x
[12:55] <ScorpKing> Bleep: Set Addresses :10.0.0.50 and Through to 10.0.0.55 so you don't have so much and make Subnetmask 255.255.255.0
[12:55] <uga> Silsa: http://alerttail.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/mixed.jpeg
[12:56] <Silsa> uga: Nice thx. Also I assume it's "sudo apt-get install guarddog" to install guarddog?
[12:56] <evilidler> alerttail looks neat :)
[12:56] <Bleep> ok done.
[12:57] <ScorpKing> Bleep: and set the gateway to the address of the router for dhcp clients. write down what you change so you can change it back if it doesn't work.
[12:57] <uga> Silsa: yes
[12:57] <evilidler> I'm afraid I'd waste all my bandwidth quota staring at it, though :P
[12:57] <acee1234> evilidler: for all instances of sda1?
[12:57] <evilidler> acee1234: There should be only one you care about. Any line starting with # is ignored.
[12:58] <acee1234> this line? /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[12:58] <ScorpKing> Bleep: o ya, and set dns to router ip as well :)
[12:58] <Bleep> i didnt get that last one. uh setting the gateway to the adress of the router for dhcp clients?
[12:58] <evilidler> acee1234: That line SHOULD be fine as it is.
[12:59] <acee1234> evilidler: im confused then as to which line im editing
[12:59] <ScorpKing> Bleep: Def. Gateway  router.ip   DNS server   router.ip
[12:59] <evilidler> acee1234: You have an sda1 and sda3 partition, so a similar line for sda3 should get you both partitions
[12:59] <ScorpKing> Bleep: the router will then handle dns for clients
[12:59] <Bleep> o you mean i have to set that for eth0 in knetworkmanager?
[12:59] <evilidler> acee1234: If that's what it looks like now, ctrl-o, enter, ctrl-x and see if "mount -a" does anything
[01:00] <ScorpKing> Bleep: no. on the router
[01:00] <ScorpKing> Bleep: eth0 will get it from the router
[01:00] <Quixogre> im back. running on *shudders* windows now
[01:00] <Bleep> you mean the part below at
[01:00] <Bleep> Addresses :10.0.0.1   through   10.255.255.254
[01:00] <Bleep> Subnetmask 255.0.0.0   Lease time   7200
[01:00] <Bleep> Def. Gateway  auto   DNS server   auto
[01:00] <evilidler> acee1234: But the first auto can be replaced with ntfs-3g to ensure it picks the right filesystem
[01:00] <Bleep> oops sorry
[01:01] <ScorpKing> Bleep: lol. yes that
[01:01] <evilidler> Quixogre: Why?
[01:01] <acee1234> evilidler: i have a sda1 entry an sda2 entry and a sda4 entry are you wanting me to copy one and switch out the sda# for sda3?
[01:01] <Wendy> has anyone had luck making kubuntu an L2TP client
[01:01] <Quixogre> evil running on winders
[01:01] <Wendy> for vpn?
[01:01] <Bleep> http://pastebin.com/d1be3213  at client lease table
[01:01] <evilidler> acee1234: Yep, ctrl-k, ctrl-u, ctrl-u should get you a copy :)
[01:02] <Wendy> u know, like windows has this "vpn client" that you open, put your vpn server
[01:02] <Wendy> and vallah you connetc..
[01:02] <Wendy> how to do the same in lkubuntu?
[01:02] <evilidler> Quixogre: But why are you in there? I feel dirty doing other things than gaming there :P
[01:02] <ScorpKing> Bleep: that's still wrong
[01:02] <Bleep> but what should i add?
[01:02] <Quixogre> evil wife needed to print. and neither of my printers support linux
[01:02] <ScorpKing> Bleep: Set Addresses :10.0.0.50 and Through to 10.0.0.55 so you don't have so much and make Subnetmask 255.255.255.0
[01:03] <evilidler> Quixogre: Ah. That old problem.
[01:03] <ScorpKing> Bleep: Def. Gateway  router.ip   DNS server   router.ip
[01:03] <Timber> Dumb question but how do i check my ip address in kubuntu?
[01:03] <Bleep> ive set that already
[01:03] <acee1234> evilidler: so i added this...# Entry for /dev/sda3 :
[01:03] <acee1234> UUID=10F083EDF083D77E /media/sda3 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[01:03] <Wendy> Timber: open terminal and type ifconfig
[01:03] <evilidler> acee1234: One more change needed there
[01:03] <BluesKaj> Quixogre, which printers are they?
[01:03] <evilidler> acee1234: Change the UUID=<number> bit to read /dev/sda3
[01:03] <Wendy> ok this channel has like no help whatsoever
[01:04] <Wendy> you guys are not very helpful are you
[01:04] <Quixogre> BluesKaj both are dell printers. ones model 1100 laser, others one of those "all in one" jobbers
[01:04] <evilidler> acee1234: It should then be "/dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1"
[01:04] <ScorpKing> Bleep: if it's changed try the linux box again. :) run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:04] <Timber> Wendy: Thx
[01:04] <Wendy> ok fine... leaving this place... its depressing and unhelpful
[01:04] <acee1234> evilidler: ok
[01:04] <Bleep> ok brb
[01:04] <Wendy> #join vpn
[01:04] <BluesKaj> !patience | Wendy
[01:04] <ubotu> Wendy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:05] <evilidler> Quixogre: Still looking for that elusive all-in-one that works in Ubuntu. Found one that's almost. Just the scanner isn't working properly :/
[01:05] <evilidler> If noone knows, noone can really answer anything helpful
[01:05] <Quixogre> lol evilidler...i've given up... especially sicne the wifes printing from vista
[01:05] <evilidler> Quixogre: Filthy!
[01:05] <acee1234> i get the same mount -a error
[01:06] <acee1234> ill paste bin the edited file to make sure i did it right
[01:06] <Quixogre> evilidler she likes it...its listed as one of the irreconcilable differences in the divorce papers
[01:06] <evilidler> The poor designer need Flash tools, while everybody else could survive with Linux on a stick and Firefox
[01:06] <evilidler> Quixogre: Hehe
[01:07] <acee1234> evilidler: http://pastebin.com/m71a9b414
[01:07] <evilidler> My Kubuntu desktop is prettier than that MS thing, anyway.
[01:07] <Quixogre> brb. switching back. she's done printing
[01:07] <BluesKaj> Wendy, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/VPN-HOWTO/
[01:08] <evilidler> acee1234: A "mount -a" should now mount all unmounted devices.
[01:08] <ScorpKing> acee1234: that will give you problems
[01:08] <evilidler> ScorpKing: Where are the errors? Need food. brain going.
[01:08] <acomaco> anyone know of a utility that shows Cpu Usage etc? Clock and so on? i've seen some screenshots on it but i can't figure what to search for..
[01:08] <evilidler> acomaco: Keywords like "monitor" might help. Or "sensors"
[01:09] <acomaco> thx
[01:09] <ScorpKing> evilidler: which one gives the errors? i'll fix it on pastebin.
[01:09] <acee1234> scorpking: what do you mean
 <mount\040point> auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 won't work
[01:10] <ScorpKing> and /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1 needs uid=1000,gid=1000
[01:10] <acomaco> evilidler: Could you recommend any?
[01:10] <acee1234> scorpking what do i do?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> acomaco,install ksensors
[01:12] <acomaco> BluesKaj: thx
[01:12] <bleep1> scorp no luck
[01:12] <bleep1> however when i type ifconfig
[01:12] <ScorpKing> acee1234: one sec.
[01:12] <ScorpKing> bleep1: ur on xp?
[01:13] <bleep1> it shows inet addr:10.0.0.50 at eth0
[01:13] <BluesKaj> heh vista is a hog for sure :Microsoft announced on Thursday that it will now extend the sale of XP to June 30, 2008.
[01:13] <bleep1> now i am
[01:13] <ScorpKing> bleep1: whats the gateway?
[01:13] <ScorpKing> router ip?
[01:14] <bleep1> on the router it was set AUTO
[01:14] <ScorpKing> bleep1: the problem is linux does not get the gateway or dns
[01:14] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I would really love to see you regularly in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[01:16] <bleep1> so i should replace AUTO  with an excisting IP?
[01:16] <ScorpKing> bleep1: let me explain...
[01:17] <ScorpKing> bleep1: the router needs to give the boxes a gateway so they can connect. this is usually the same ip as the router unless you have another computer on the net that has the main internet.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Gateway = ip of router, i even use dns server ip = router ip.
[01:18] <ScorpKing> bleep1: so you might have to set AUTO to the ip of the router so that it will tell the dhcp clients where to go to get internet.
[01:19] <ScorpKing> acee1234: that file is messed up. pastebin the output from mount for me as well
[01:19] <ScorpKing> acee1234: so i can see what is mounted right now. :)
[01:19] <bleep1> i presume the IP is the same as the router setup page? 10.0.0.138
[01:19] <evilidler> Meh. Damn ISPs.
[01:19] <ScorpKing> bleep1: true
[01:20] <bleep1> ah ok
[01:20] <evilidler> ScorpKing: Where are we in the horror story of the fstab from Heck?
[01:20] <ScorpKing> evilidler: i need the output from mount
[01:20] <bleep1> brb
[01:20] <ScorpKing> ok
[01:21] <ScorpKing> acee1234: you still here?
[01:22] <acee1234> scorpking yes sorry was munching
[01:22] <ScorpKing> np
[01:22] <acee1234> ScorpKing: which file/
[01:23] <ScorpKing> acee1234: run mount
[01:23] <ScorpKing> acee1234: and pastebin the output
[01:24] <acee1234> scorpking: http://pastebin.com/m275b37bf
[01:24] <Bleep> hmm im gonna quit for now... its getting late
[01:25] <Bleep> thnx  for the help anyway scorp
[01:26] <ScorpKing> bleep1: np. see you next time. :)
[01:26] <ScorpKing> acee1234: thanks. that helps. almost done...
[01:27] <acee1234> scorpking : the thank is all mine
[01:28] <acee1234> scorpking : minus my typing skills
[01:28] <ScorpKing> acee1234: lol. np. try this - http://pastebin.com/m7071ccb3
[01:31] <knub> can anyone help me here: i have read about the flash plugin crashing konqueror. when konqueror, with the flash plugin, goes loading a page with flash in it, konqueror crashes. anyone have a clue how the solution could be? i read something saying there is not solution, but i already saw it work. how there is not a solution?
[01:31] <ScorpKing> evilidler and acee1234: here is some usefull info on mounting ntfs - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[01:32] <Minataku> Hm
[01:32] <evilidler> ScorpKing: Thanks, but I think I can manage without it from now on. Suppressing any remaining knowledge of it :)
[01:32] <Minataku> !seen Dr_willis
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dr_willis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <Minataku> Oh, he's (supposedly) here
[01:32] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You there?
[01:33] <ScorpKing> evilidler: i never use it myself. lol. no more MS for me! :D
[01:33] <evilidler> ScorpKing: I just have a gaming computer separate from the real workstation, this Ubuntu box
[01:34] <Minataku> If it's a PC, it's not a workstation
[01:34] <evilidler> My definition is "the computer that lets me do my job properly"
[01:34] <Minataku> PCs are general purpose commodity hardware
[01:34] <evilidler> The unstable POS is not that
[01:35] <Minataku> Weak and underpowered compared to an actual Unix workstation such as UltraSPARC-based offerings from Sun
[01:35] <evilidler> But so much more affordable, and who needs to compile faster than instantly? ;)
[01:35] <ScorpKing> Minataku: not Personal Computer?
[01:35] <Minataku> Sorry, I've got _real_ Unix workstations... once you've used one, you'll never understand how you ever managed with a PC
[01:35] <Minataku> lol
[01:36] <ScorpKing> Minataku: i gues some are not so lucky. :P
[01:36] <Minataku> I've got a SPARCstation LX running about 1m away :3
[01:36] <evilidler> My Ubuntu box does its job, and it's fast enough for what I need to throw at it.
[01:37] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm just harping on semantics, really X3
[01:37] <Minataku> And showing off
[01:37] <Minataku> Like with Haruko, the aforementioned SPARCstation LX
[01:37] <hydrogen> topic please!
[01:37] <Minataku> With her MicroSPARC-I @ 50MHz
[01:37] <ScorpKing> !ot
[01:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:37] <ScorpKing> lol
[01:37] <hydrogen> the size of your epeen is not measured in the amount of old computers you have
[01:38] <Minataku> !ot | hydrogen
[01:38] <ubotu> hydrogen: please see above
[01:38] <ScorpKing> lol
[01:38] <hydrogen> ubotu: if you insist.... but thers lots of foolish conversation "above".. can  you point me to a specific place?
[01:38] <Administrator> is it possible to open up a ntfs formatted external HD with kubuntu
[01:38] <hydrogen> yes
[01:38] <Administrator> how?
[01:39] <hydrogen> do you need read-write access or just readonly?
[01:39] <Administrator> how can i access the panel to see what are all the HDs that are connected and be able to browse them
[01:39] <Administrator> read-write
[01:39] <hydrogen> !ntfs
[01:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:39] <hydrogen> !ntfs-3g
[01:39] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:39] <hydrogen> that one ^
[01:39] <ScorpKing> and this one http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[01:40] <Administrator> there is no "my computer" type of thing?
[01:40] <crazy_bus> I tried to install kubuntu 7.10 beta with the alternate cd.  It all went well until the last 16%.  It seemed to download off the internet.  I have a slow internet connection and it was downloading for over a hour.  Is there anyway to install without downloading?
[01:40] <acee1234> scorpkiing: didnt work ill pastebin what i did
[01:40] <hydrogen> you need to configure your computer first
[01:40] <hydrogen> then you will be able to see it in konqueror
[01:40] <ScorpKing> acee1234: ok
[01:41] <acee1234> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m6ac44050
[01:41] <hydrogen> in media:/
[01:41] <evilidler> crazy_bus: Look for a DVD with the beta, maybe. But it IS a beta.
[01:41] <ScorpKing> acee1234: which one are you trying to mount?
[01:41] <crazy_bus> how much does it have to download.  As cd's never seemed to download more than the package lists during install before.
[01:42] <acee1234> the larger ntfs
[01:42] <notv> whats up with gutsy?
[01:42] <notv> does it come out in a few days or what
[01:42] <acee1234> ScorpKing: the larger ntfs
[01:43] <notv> do you think if i get gutsy now it will be any different than the official release?
[01:43] <ScorpKing> acee1234: /dev/sda3?
[01:43] <ScorpKing> acee1234: or /dev/sda1?
[01:43] <ScorpKing> acee1234: what happens if you type sudo mount /dev/sda3
[01:44] <acee1234> ScorpKing: i dont know how to tell but its the one thats about 70GB
[01:44] <evilidler> crazy_bus: Considering how much better upgrades are working nowadays, I'd install a stable edition, latest possible, and then dist-upgrade from there. Make sure the base install is a minimal non-GUI installation and let it download everything in one go.
[01:44] <ScorpKing> acee1234: there are two ntfs ones.
[01:45] <ScorpKing> acee1234: run sudo mount -a and pastebin the output.
[01:45] <acee1234> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m1377fcf9
[01:46] <evilidler> acee1234: sda3 is broken :(
[01:46] <acee1234> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m3ba30a7e
[01:46] <ScorpKing> acee1234: does mount show /dev/sda1 as mounted?
[01:47] <Administrator> i cant find !fuse
[01:47] <Creationist225> I was dual-booting Feisty/XP but now I'm trying to upgrade both to Gutsy/Vista.  After installing Vista, though, I can not boot into it because GRUB issues an Error 22.  I completely removed all my partitions before installing Windows so I don't know how to get rid of GRUB.  Anyone have any input?
[01:47] <evilidler> I'm wondering if a reboot into Windows, diskcheck and then back would help
[01:47] <Administrator> is there a way to download ntfs-config?
[01:47] <Administrator> i got adept package manager
[01:48] <ScorpKing> acee1234: run ls /dev/ | grep sda
[01:48] <crazy_bus_> sorry for some reason my internet disconnected.  Does anyone know how much the installer downloads and if their is anyway to bypass it as the dvd is too big for me to get at the moment
[01:48] <ScorpKing> acee1234: is sda sda1 sda2 sda3 there?
[01:48] <acee1234> sda...sda1...sda2...sda3...sda4
[01:49] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: The amount of packages to download for a beta version might be too large for you, then. They're in constant flux, I bet
[01:49] <Administrator> there a way to download ntfs config?
[01:49] <acee1234> evilidler: what do you mean its broken? i can boot on it just fine
[01:49] <ScorpKing> acee1234: change sda3 to sda4 in fstab
[01:49] <crazy_bus_> is there anyway to install without downloading the newer packages.  And download them later?
[01:50] <evilidler> acee1234: ntfs-3g can't recognise a partition on it, anyway
[01:50] <ScorpKing> acee1234: lol. no
[01:50] <ScorpKing> acee1234: uhm...
[01:50] <evilidler> Administrator: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:50] <Administrator> do i need to have the internet connected?
[01:50] <Administrator> or is it internally?
[01:50] <acee1234> ScorpKing: change or dont?
[01:50] <ScorpKing> don't
[01:50] <evilidler> Administrator: If you installed from a DVD, you probably have that on it and just stick it in.
[01:51] <Administrator> it was a cd
[01:51] <ScorpKing> acee1234: run sudo cfdisk /dev/sda but don't change a thing. pastebin what you see.
[01:51] <Administrator> kubuntu
[01:51] <evilidler> Administrator: If you installed from a CD, I dunno if ntfs stuff is part of your distro. Was it 7.04?
[01:51] <Creationist225> I was dual-booting Feisty/XP but now I'm trying to upgrade both to Gutsy/Vista.  After installing Vista, though, I can not boot into it because GRUB issues an Error 22.  I completely removed all my partitions before installing Windows so I don't know how to get rid of GRUB.  Anyone have any input?
[01:51] <Administrator> yeah
[01:51] <evilidler> Administrator: Only one way to find out. Try it :)
[01:51] <Administrator> k
[01:52] <evilidler> Administrator: You can't harm your system if it can't find a package.
[01:52] <acee1234> ScorpKing: FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 2: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[01:52] <Creationist225> ...how can I completely remove GRUB from my drive?
[01:53] <ScorpKing> acee1234: ugh. run chkdsk from windows.
[01:53] <ScorpKing> Creationist225: overwrite it with another bootloader
[01:53] <evilidler> Could be problems related to partitioning, but a consistency check in Win should help
[01:54] <Administrator> nope it doesnt have the package
[01:54] <Administrator> so when i use sudo it searches internally?
[01:54] <Administrator> only
[01:54] <acee1234> ScorpKing: not possible its too messed up, i need to format it at some point will that help?
[01:54] <evilidler> Administrator: Its dependencies are probably few. You could try getting it from a repository on another computer.
[01:54] <evilidler> Administrator: No, it's just that your system, when installed from CD, only adds the CD as a repository
[01:54] <Administrator> how i access the repository?
[01:55] <mr_butter> your all using KDE? wicked
[01:55] <evilidler> Administrator: Moving into advanced territory here :)
[01:55] <ScorpKing> acee1234: yes but change the partition layout while you're at it
[01:55] <Administrator> how? im a newb :p
[01:55] <ScorpKing> acee1234: will you keep the box deul boot?
[01:55] <ScorpKing> duel*
[01:55] <Administrator> dual
[01:55] <ScorpKing> or whatever
[01:56] <evilidler> acee1234: Make all partitions with one program, just to allocate space. Install Windows first, simply formatting what you beed, then install Linux
[01:56] <Doctor_Nick> uggghhhh
[01:56] <Doctor_Nick> i cannot wait until gutsy comes out
[01:56] <evilidler> Administrator: Finding the packages is a hell of job ;)
[01:56] <Doctor_Nick> so i can upgrade alsa and the kernel
[01:56] <Administrator> ok so how i do that?
[01:56] <ScorpKing> Administrator: sudo aptitude search package
[01:56] <evilidler> Administrator: I think it's better to just burn a DVD of the 7.04 distro if you can't connect the Linux box to the net
[01:56] <acee1234> ScorpKing: yes
[01:57] <Administrator> if i do connect it to the net
[01:57] <Administrator> and perform the exact command again
[01:57] <Administrator> will it search the net repositories?
[01:57] <evilidler> Administrator: Then you just open Adept and add repositories..and all is well
[01:57] <crazy_bus_> if I unplug my modem when I install the beta will it not download all the updated packages so that I can boot into gutsy and then update them?
[01:57] <ScorpKing> acee1234: what size is the disk?
[01:57] <Administrator> how i add them lol
[01:58] <evilidler> Administrator: Worry about that when you have the Linux computer connected - you can IRC from there ;)
[01:58] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: Huh?
[01:58] <ScorpKing> crazy_bus_: do you want to update the gusty ones? then yes, you can
[01:58] <Administrator> fuck kubuntu going to use ubuntu
[01:58] <Administrator> no more crazy stupid shit
[01:58] <ScorpKing> !ohmy
[01:58] <acee1234> ScorpKing:  100GB
[01:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:59] <crazy_bus_> I just want to be able to boot into gutsy and not be stuck in the text installer for 10 hours
[01:59] <evilidler> You'll find Ubuntu has exactly the same packages..we use the same repositories and builds of the installer CDs
[01:59] <ScorpKing> acee1234: boot from the live cd. then...
[01:59] <Administrator> yeah but im more used to ubuntu
[01:59] <mr_butter> watch language
[01:59] <mr_butter> that's seriosu
[01:59] <mr_butter> effort
[01:59] <Administrator> it has a better gui
[01:59] <acee1234> ScorpKing: and do what
[01:59] <ScorpKing> acee1234: i type slow. lol
[01:59] <Administrator> if i connect the linux box to the internet and type in the command "sudo apt-get install ntfs-config"
[01:59] <acee1234> ScorpKing: no
[01:59] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: Once you start updating, just let it download everything. Updating WILL take a while.
[02:00] <Administrator> its going to search the internet or not?
[02:00] <acee1234> ScorpKing: np
[02:00] <mr_butter> anyone else have a problem with Amsn in kubuntu?
[02:00] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: Installing a simple installation and then getting kubuntu-desktop before making the changes to upgrade to beta gives yoy a decent desktop, though
[02:00] <evilidler> Administrator: No, you will need to add repository lines. There is a good tutorial on the Ubuntu wiki.
[02:01] <crazy_bus_> can you give me a rough time of how long it will download in the text installer.  Also will the final release have to download things like this before it boots up.  Or will you be able to update once you have booted in like previous releases?
[02:02] <ScorpKing> acee1234: make the root partition / (sda1) about 10GB. make /home (sda2) about 30GB (depending how much you need for xp). make a swap partition (sda3) about 1GB and one for windows (sda4) the rest. then just install xp on sda4 first before you install linux.
[02:02] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: Depends on your bandwidth and how much you install. But if we say core system+KDE, that's probably up to 400MB
[02:03] <crazy_bus_> how come it's never downloaded packages during the install before?
[02:03] <acee1234> ScorpKing: alright
[02:03] <acee1234> ScorpKing: than you for your help
[02:03] <acee1234> ScorpKing: ill do a backup and format it all
[02:03] <evilidler> crazy_bus_: Solar flares?
[02:03] <ScorpKing> acee1234: np. i have to go now. good luck. :)
[02:04] <ScorpKing> nite guys!
[02:04] <administrator_> ok i got the internet connected
[02:04] <administrator_> now what?
[02:04] <crazy_bus_> so will I have to download all these things during all installs from now on.  Or only with alpha's and beta's?
[02:05] <peter_> can anyone tell me how to create .iso file from folders on ubuntu...?
[02:05] <acee1234> Evilidler: thank you aswell
[02:06] <administrator_> evilidler what do i do now to get the repositories?
[02:07] <evilidler> administrator_: In Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[02:07] <jhutchins> !easysources | administrator_
[02:07] <notv> is there a gutsy channel?
[02:07] <ubotu> administrator_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:07] <evilidler> peter_: K3B is the program
[02:07] <jhutchins> notv: ubuntu+1
[02:07] <administrator_> kubuntu
[02:08] <jhutchins> notv: It's combined k|ubuntu.
[02:08] <evilidler> administrator_: Follow the nice link jhutchins gave you and have Adept open to enter the sources into
[02:08] <jhutchins> administrator_: or sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list (isn't it?)
[02:09] <evilidler> kdesu for graphical programs
[02:09] <administrator_> its only for ubuntu
[02:09] <evilidler> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu. Same repositories, different choice of desktops.
[02:09] <evilidler> Same core programs. No differences.
[02:09] <tekteen> I install both
[02:10] <tekteen> but use kde more
[02:10] <evilidler> I'm just eternally stuck on KDE now. It works for me.
[02:10] <evilidler> When I had a weaker system, built from spare parts, XFCE was nice.
[02:11] <administrator_> ok i think i got them
[02:11] <tekteen> does anyone know how to download the debs of programs and their dependencies without install.
[02:11] <tekteen> I want to make a cd with them
[02:11] <Dr_willis> thresx an apt-get -d option I think
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !info aptcd
[02:11] <tekteen> for mass install
[02:11] <ubotu> Package aptcd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !info apt-cd
[02:11] <ubotu> Package apt-cd does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:11] <evilidler> administrator_: If they're entered, update+upgrade, then look for the programs you need
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Theres an Apt cd tool.. somewhere. :)
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !find aptcd
[02:12] <ubotu> Package/file aptcd does not exist in feisty
[02:12] <tekteen> no
[02:12] <administrator_> how i update and upgrade?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> aptoncd - Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT
[02:12] <tekteen> it needs to have a script for install
[02:12] <tekteen> not aptoncd
[02:12] <Dr_willis> good luck then.
[02:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:12] <tekteen> this is for mass installs of kubuntu
[02:12] <evilidler> administrator_: In Adept, click Fetch Updates, then Apply Changes
[02:13] <administrator_> kk
[02:13] <tekteen> I need a script an "idiot" could use
[02:13] <administrator_> its gray for some reason
[02:13] <tekteen> lol
[02:13] <Dr_willis> I got a little script that scans a machine for what packages it has.. writes them to a file. then another script that reads/installs them from that list.
[02:13] <evilidler> Idiots have so many ideas..can't account for them all
[02:13] <Dr_willis> But it does download them all. Its just a script for the apt-getting part.
[02:13] <administrator_> yeah its just gray
[02:13] <tekteen> Is there an easy way to down them to a folder
[02:13] <Dr_willis> if i had a apt-caching fileserver.. that would speed it up a lot.
[02:14] <tekteen> the rest I can do
[02:14] <evilidler> administrator_: No changes to perform, then. Which is good. Just search for ntfs-config
[02:14] <tekteen> I do not want to down by hand
[02:14] <administrator_> there isnt anything
[02:14] <tekteen> ok
[02:14] <tekteen> thanks
[02:14] <evilidler> administrator_: No ntfs-config?
[02:15] <administrator_> no
[02:15] <evilidler> administrator_: Then you didn't add the universe repository
[02:15] <administrator_> lol how i do that?
[02:15] <evilidler> administrator_: Go to the Adept menu and Manage repositories
[02:16] <administrator_> its also gray
[02:16] <evilidler> Tick the boxes down the list to get everything, then run another update after closing the config
[02:16] <evilidler> administrator_: What is?
[02:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :D
[02:16] <administrator_> manage repositories
[02:16] <Minataku> What's up?
[02:16] <Minataku> Where are my Amigas? XD
[02:16] <tv_> I have two users on my system.  How do I eliminate internet access completely from one of the users?
[02:17] <evilidler> administrator_: That's weird. Did you enter your password when starting Adept?
[02:17] <administrator_> yes
[02:17] <administrator_> ok got it up now
[02:17] <administrator_> what now
[02:17] <administrator_> ?
[02:18] <evilidler> administrator_: Select all repositories
[02:18] <administrator_> they been
[02:18] <administrator_> now what?
[02:18] <evilidler> Universe definitely selected? Then close. Fetch updates.
[02:18] <administrator_> should it be download from: main server?
[02:18] <administrator_> yes
[02:18] <evilidler> Tick everything ON.
[02:18] <evilidler> All options.
[02:18] <administrator_> kk done
[02:18] <administrator_> where should i download it from?
[02:18] <yonkeltron> are there plans for jruby integration?
[02:18] <administrator_> main server?
[02:19] <evilidler> Pick a nearby server for speed.
[02:19] <administrator_> kk
[02:19] <administrator_> ill justy say main server
[02:19] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Come on, don't dodge me... :(
[02:20] <administrator_> and just click reset?
[02:20] <administrator_> evilidler?
[02:20] <administrator_> or click close?
[02:20] <evilidler> administrator_: CLOSE. Reset undoes everything you did ;)
[02:20] <administrator_> kk
[02:20] <administrator_> kk downloading
[02:20] <Dr_willis> hay Minataku
[02:20] <Dr_willis> been fighting with the wifes CELL phone for the last 2 days
[02:20] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[02:20] <Minataku> I hate cellphones
[02:21] <Minataku> Haha
[02:21] <administrator_> yes i see :D
[02:21] <Dr_willis> Expecsa ya to know EVERYTHING about the phone she just got.. but WONT let me even touch the phone.
[02:21] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Typical
[02:22] <administrator_> ok evilidler i got  it :D
[02:22] <administrator_> but it wont open the config tool :(
[02:22] <evilidler> administrator_: Boo. Run as root?
[02:23] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Any word on those Amigas? (Sorry, but I _have_ been waiting a while now XD)
[02:23] <evilidler> administrator_: sudo ntfs-config, that is
[02:23] <administrator_> kk
[02:23] <administrator_> one sec
[02:23] <Minataku> Still no rush, of course... X3
[02:23] <administrator_> failed to open device
[02:24] <danya> hello .. I'm having a problem ..my laptop keeps freezing and the only way to shutdown is by the power button .. this thing started happening after I insatlled compiz ... I tried alt-prt sc - r .. but nothing really works
[02:24] <administrator_> what now evilidler?
[02:25] <ubuntu_> no ops? lol wut
[02:26] <administrator_> looks like im locked out
[02:26] <administrator_> blah
[02:27] <tekteen> is there a way to download a list of debs to a folder
[02:27] <administrator_> evililder?
[02:28] <tekteen> ?
[02:28] <evilidler> administrator_: I dunno then. I don't do dualboot.-
[02:28] <tekteen> is there a way to download a list of debs to a folder?
[02:28] <administrator_> its not dualboot
[02:28] <administrator_> its a different box entirely
[02:29] <evilidler> administrator_: Well, I don't touch NTFS with Linux, anyway ;)
[02:30] <evilidler> administrator_: The ntfs-config homepage is pretty useless, but there's something on the forum
[02:30] <evilidler> administrator_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337970
[02:30] <evilidler> That post contains links to the Launchpad pages, too
[02:31] <administrator_> how do i get the permissions on a folder back?
[02:31] <administrator_> it says ownership: root
[02:31] <administrator_> but i am root
[02:31] <evilidler> administrator_: If it's a regular folder, chmod. If it's a mounted folder, change mount options.
[02:32] <evilidler> administrator_: You probably need chmod +x directory
[02:32] <waltercool> chown root folder
[02:32] <waltercool> chmod 755 folder?
[02:32] <evilidler> Or chmod 700, depending on paranoia
[02:33] <administrator_> cannot open
[02:33] <Dr_willis> every 2 min.. wife yells at me to come in there and help her...
[02:33] <evilidler> chown root.root dir; chmod 755 dir
[02:33] <waltercool> someone know how see what apps are using audio? i have audio bloqued for some app
[02:33] <administrator_> it cannot access it
[02:34] <administrator_> i see that it mounte
[02:34] <administrator_> but it locked me out
[02:34] <administrator_> i dont even know how that happened
[02:34] <evilidler> administrator_: It's mount options, then. What does the ntfs-config manpage say?
[02:35] <waltercool> someone knows?
[02:35] <administrator_> i unno
[02:35] <evilidler> administrator_: Pastebin some ls -l output from the directory above it
[02:36] <administrator_> its in the / dir
[02:36] <evilidler> administrator_: So "ls -l /"
[02:36] <evilidler> administrator_: I just want the line with the mounted drive
[02:36] <administrator_> ok
[02:36] <administrator_> "/external HD"
[02:36] <administrator_> thats the url to it
[02:37] <evilidler> Why is it mounted there, anyway?
[02:37] <administrator_> i had it mouted there
[02:37] <evilidler> administrator_: In theory, you should just plug it in and it appears in /media/
[02:37] <nonewmsgs> i can see my usb flash drive in kinfocenter but it isnt mounted
[02:38] <nonewmsgs> or any way to access it
[02:38] <administrator_> ill try that
[02:38] <evilidler> administrator_: Remember to unmount first
[02:39] <administrator_> kk
[02:39] <administrator_> lol how i do that?
[02:39] <administrator_> :p
[02:39] <evilidler> umount /external HD/
[02:39] <evilidler> Or umount "/external HD"
[02:40] <administrator_> unmount
[02:40] <administrator_> its not a command
[02:40] <waltercool> umount
[02:40] <Dr_willis> its umount
[02:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:40] <evilidler> umount
[02:40] <Dr_willis> no N
[02:40] <Dr_willis> mnmnmnmnmnmn :)
[02:40] <administrator_> 0.o
[02:40] <administrator_> thats stupid
[02:40] <evilidler> No, that
[02:40] <Dr_willis> sure.. whatever. :)
[02:40] <evilidler> is efficient
[02:40] <evilidler> Make an alias if you feel more typing is better :)
[02:41] <Dr_willis> we said umount several times. :) no typos here.
[02:41] <Dr_willis> theres a reason theres no n.. but its stems back from Dinosours.. :)
[02:41] <administrator_> it says its not mounted
[02:41] <evilidler> Right, then it isn't.
[02:41] <evilidler> Probably.
[02:41] <administrator_> one sec
[02:41] <evilidler> Just unplug and pray to the dark deities of computing that it shows up when you plug it back in.
[02:42] <nonewmsgs> tried that but nothing happend
[02:42] <administrator_> http://pastebin.com/m79b958e8
[02:43] <evilidler> administrator_: sudo before the command if you're not root. But it's not mounted. So IGNORE it.
[02:43] <evilidler> administrator_: Unplug, plug in, dark prayers etc.
[02:43] <administrator_> kk
[02:43] <administrator_> how can i login as root?
[02:43] <nonewmsgs> sudo su
[02:44] <evilidler> administrator_: You don't :)
[02:44] <administrator_> what/?!@
[02:44] <administrator_> ok i just turned it back on
[02:44] <evilidler> administrator_: You do things AS root with sudo, but you don't actually log in.
[02:44] <nonewmsgs> admin, if you type sudo su in a terminal it makes you root but it's not recomended
[02:45] <administrator_> yeah it mounted again in new forlder
[02:45] <administrator_> and once again i do not have permission
[02:45] <evilidler> I'm out of ideas. Must be a mount option or something in /etc/fstab.
[02:46] <paonia> administrator_ just an idea type su
[02:46] <administrator_> can you take screenshots in kubuntu?
[02:46] <administrator_> kk
[02:46] <paonia> yes
[02:47] <administrator_> authentication failure
[02:47] <administrator_> sorry.
[02:47] <administrator_> :(
[02:47] <paonia> aaah
[02:47] <NickPresta> administrator_, press the print screen button on your keyboard. If you prefer a way to do it from the command line, just ask
[02:47] <paonia> type sudo passwd root - this lets you set the root password
[02:47] <administrator_> kk
[02:47] <NickPresta> a root account isn't suggested
[02:47] <NickPresta> !root
[02:47] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:48] <administrator_> kk password updates cucessfully
[02:48] <administrator_> now waht?
[02:48] <waltercool> someone knows how release audio of all apps?
[02:48] <paonia> now sudo su will work
[02:48] <waltercool> i have audio bloqued
[02:48] <administrator_> kk
[02:48] <waltercool> blocked
[02:48] <paonia> try sudo mount
[02:48] <administrator_> it is mounted
[02:48] <administrator_> i just cant access the folder where its at
[02:48] <paonia> you want to umount
[02:49] <administrator_> no i just want to access the folder where all the stuff is in there
[02:49] <evilidler> His drive appears automagically when he plugs it in. But the mount options are probably all wrong.
[02:49] <paonia> if it is usb it should come up as sda1
[02:51] <nonewmsgs> ther is nothing in media for it...also strangely it isnt under lspci
[02:51] <nonewmsgs> but it's clearly there in kinfo
[02:51] <administrator_> yeah once again no permission
[02:51] <administrator_> :(
[02:51] <paonia> HUH
[02:51] <paonia> is it a ntfs drive
[02:51] <paonia> ?
[02:51] <administrator_> yea
[02:52] <paonia> do you have ntfs-3g installed
[02:52] <paonia> ?
[02:52] <administrator_> i have ntfs-config
[02:52] <administrator_> yeah its on there
[02:53] <paonia> sometimes if it wasn't shutdown properly it won't mount with linux, you may try remounting in windows and making sure to unmount in windows prior to plugging into linux
[02:53] <administrator_> hmm
[02:53] <administrator_> it mounts correctly
[02:53] <administrator_> cause when i use disk & filesystem system settings
[02:53] <administrator_> and i click browse
[02:53] <administrator_> i see the files on there'
[02:54] <paonia> but you cannot access from command line?
[02:54] <administrator_> its just when i go to the folder it wont let me open it cause i dont have the correct permissions
[02:54] <administrator_> i have acccess to it
[02:54] <administrator_> what i type?
[02:54] <paonia> cd /
[02:54] <paonia> then cd media
[02:54] <administrator_> wait
[02:54] <paonia> ls
[02:54] <administrator_> first cd /
[02:54] <administrator_> then cd media
[02:54] <administrator_> ?
[02:55] <administrator_> ok
[02:55] <administrator_> now what
[02:55] <administrator_> ?
[02:55] <NickPresta> !enter | administrator_
[02:55] <ubotu> administrator_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:55] <ubuntu_> I finally got fed up with the webkit article and updated it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit
[02:55] <paonia> do you see the sda1 drive?
[02:56] <administrator_> http://pastebin.com/m4ed2a3d8
[02:56] <administrator_> this is what i see
[02:57] <administrator_> what now?
[02:57] <paonia> type nautilus and then you will be at root in the GUI
[02:57] <administrator_> kk
[02:57] <administrator_> its not installed
[02:57] <NickPresta> paonia, this is the kubuntu channel. We don't have nautilus by default, AFAIK
[02:57] <paonia> what version of ubuntu
[02:57] <NickPresta> administrator_, you can use "konqueror"
[02:58] <paonia> ok konqueror
[02:58] <administrator_> yup
[02:58] <administrator_> i am using it
[02:58] <administrator_> but still no permission
[02:58] <caravaka> caravaka: test
[02:59] <NickPresta> administrator_, in a Konsole, type: kdesu konqueror /media
[02:59] <paonia> strangeness
[02:59] <administrator_> kk
[03:00] <administrator_> http://pastebin.com/m3fd08703
[03:00] <administrator_> this is what i get
[03:00] <paonia> do it from a terminal in the GUI
[03:01] <administrator_> how?
[03:01] <NickPresta> administrator_, stop using root. Close the konsole and open a new one
[03:02] <administrator_> k
[03:02] <NickPresta> administrator_, and copy what I wrote correctly. "kdesu", not "kdesue"
[03:02] <administrator_> YAY~!
[03:02] <administrator_> it opened :)
[03:03] <purpleposeidon> How do you compile kqemu? I got build-essential, the linux-headers...
[03:03] <administrator_> do i have to open it up like that always?
[03:03] <evilidler> purpleposeidon: apt-get build-dep kvm, maybe
[03:04] <evilidler> administrator_: No, this is just an indicator that some mount options are wrong.
[03:04] <evilidler> If the mount point is specified in /etc/fstab, adding uid/gid for it should do the trick.
[03:05] <administrator_> its specified to
[03:05] <rickey> i just installed pidgin and updated it them i tryed to loge in to yahoo in which i have a account with, it took me to a chat looking page  and asked me to click a link , in which it could verify my account . it said command sent ,but not recived my browser
[03:05] <purpleposeidon> evilidler: I don't have that...
[03:05] <administrator_> "/media/external"
[03:06] <rickey> by my brower
[03:06] <administrator_> how can i alter the mount options evilidler?
[03:06] <evilidler> administrator_: This is ntfs, so I dunno
[03:07] <rickey> anyone got any ideal,s about what i can do next
[03:08] <rickey> how do i get ahold of yahoo staff
[03:08] <evilidler> rickey: Business plan :)
[03:08] <administrator_> blah!
[03:08] <administrator_> why cant they made linux run on ntfs
[03:09] <administrator_> why was that so hard
[03:09] <evilidler> administrator_: You might want to wear asbestos underwear now ;)
[03:09] <administrator_> huh?
[03:09] <administrator_> whats asbestos?
[03:09] <holycow> administrator_: because your an idiot?
[03:09] <holycow> i mean c'mon
[03:09] <evilidler> NTFS is a one-size-fits-all solution. We use different filesystems for different purposes.
[03:09] <holycow> here are some reasons:
[03:09] <NickPresta> !language | holycow
[03:09] <ubotu> holycow: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <rickey> humm let,s see maybe bill gate wouild get ped off
[03:10] <holycow> a: PROPRIETARY ... no one has access to this outside ms
[03:10] <holycow> b: NOT DOCUMENTED .. no on eknows how it REALLY works outside ms
[03:10] <Jucato> administrator_: two simple reasons: it's proprietary and it doesn't respect or even know about UNIX file permissions
[03:10] <administrator_> hmm ok
[03:10] <holycow> c: what Jucato said
[03:10] <Jucato> the first is very important for Linux, the 2nd is very important for any *nix system
[03:10] <administrator_> have to find a program that can then read ext3 format :D
[03:11] <Jucato> there are 2 of those
[03:11] <evilidler> administrator_: Well, that's easier :)
[03:11] <Jucato> fs explorer and ext driver (or fs driver)
[03:11] <administrator_> alright thanks
[03:11] <administrator_> well goodnight everyone
[03:11] <evilidler> Instead of forcing the MS universe on your poor Linux box, go the other way :)
[03:11] <admin|sleep> they should find a way to get games to work on linux
[03:11] <rickey> jucato how is thing going friend
[03:11] <admin|sleep> that would be awesome
[03:12] <evilidler> Meh. Get a console.
[03:12] <Jucato> admin|sleep: game makers should find a way to get their games work on linux
[03:12] <paonia> or create a fat32 drive and you can interchange either way
[03:12] <rickey> thanks for your help the other nigth
[03:12] <evilidler> Besides, UT and QW works in Linux.
[03:12] <Jucato> it's not something linux could do on its own
[03:12] <Jucato> rickey: oh kool. :)
[03:12] <admin|sleep> yeah but not GTA :p
[03:12] <holycow> admin|sleep: wow man, i mean i am REALLY RAELLY working hard to actually be nice here
[03:12] <holycow> how can you be so misinformed?
[03:13] <evilidler> holycow: MCS*. Intravenous misinformation.
[03:13] <rickey> jucato are you avoiiding me
[03:13] <holycow> admin|sleep: i mean it's like basic stuff, spend 15 minutes googling and you will understand fundamentally why that statement is really dumb
[03:13] <admin|sleep> [20:13]  [Ignore]  Added holycow!* to your ignore list
[03:13] <admin|sleep> there we go :)
[03:13] <admin|sleep> nite everyone else
[03:13] <NickPresta> admin|sleep, could you please stop trolling.
[03:13] <ubuntu__> I have Vista on my computer :'(
[03:13] <NickPresta> !away > admin|sleep
 rickey: oh kool. :) <--- no, you just didnt read :)
[03:14] <Netkiller3714> Jucato
[03:14] <holycow> usser: what can we help with?
[03:14] <Jucato> Netkiller3714: yes?
[03:14] <Netkiller3714> I have a new computer now. It's got Vista on it
[03:14] <Netkiller3714> I want Winows XP and Ubuntu on it
[03:14] <Jucato> O.o
[03:15] <paonia> kill vista
[03:15] <Netkiller3714> But I can't install XP on it because Vista hogs the drive
[03:15] <evilidler> Netkiller3714: Did you get rid of the old computer? I recommend having one for each OS
[03:15] <paonia> reformat
[03:15] <Netkiller3714> If I install Ubuntu on the whole drive will it get rid of this?
[03:15] <Jucato> 1) I don't know if your XP license agreement allows for that (installing on a different computer) 2) You'll have to resize your partition to make room for Ubuntu 3) I don't have any experience dual booting VIsta and Linux
[03:16] <holycow> Netkiller3714: why don't you just format over vista instead of trying to partition around  it?
[03:16] <evilidler> Netkiller3714: You only need to start any OS installer and get to the partitioning bit and remove everything that is already there
[03:16] <rickey> i reconmend you throwing windows out the window!!!
[03:16] <Netkiller3714> So Installing Ubuntu on the whole drive will fix this right?
[03:16] <rickey> KUBUNTU RULES
[03:17] <BluesKaj> hey hey enuff , let him ask more questions
[03:17] <evilidler> Netkiller3714: Starting to install will fix it. If you're going to dualboot, install WinXP first, then Linux in the remaining space
[03:17] <Netkiller3714> lol Windows Vista (Windex sold seperatly)
[03:17] <Jucato> Netkiller3714: installing Ubuntu on the whole drive will wipe out Vista completely on that hard drive
[03:17] <evilidler> If you still have the old computer, is it too weak to run either OS?
[03:17] <Jucato> unless you make space for it
[03:17] <BluesKaj> Netkiller3714, do you want to keep vista?
[03:17] <Netkiller3714> k thanks
[03:17] <Netkiller3714> NO!!
[03:17] <Netkiller3714> VISTA SUCKS!!
[03:18] <Netkiller3714> >_<
[03:18] <Jucato> !caps
[03:18] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:18] <evilidler> Many systems delivered with Vista aren't actually up to the task, so I can understand not keeping it :)
[03:18] <Jucato> thanks
[03:18] <BluesKaj> install XP first then kubuntu
[03:18] <Netkiller3714> I only play games on XP thats why I want it
[03:18] <rickey> ammen brother amen
[03:18] <Netkiller3714> ok brb installing Ubuntu :D
[03:18] <evilidler> Yeah, if you need games, XP will be least problematic. And Linux will let you get work done.
[03:19] <rickey> jucato i got a dandy for you tonigth ,listen to this
[03:20] <rickey>  i just installed pidgin 2.2 and went though all the steps to install it rigth
[03:20] <rickey>  ok
[03:21] <rickey> at the end of the prosess it asked me to click a like
[03:21] <rickey> to verifty my account
[03:21] <rickey>  and my browser wouldnt send the link con fo
[03:22] <Jucato> verify your account? with what?
[03:22] <rickey> this wasent manual it installed it,s self
[03:22] <rickey> sending a link back
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: he is signing up with a AIM SN apparently
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> or rather...registering a SN
[03:23] <rickey> me tyoo
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah... I was talking about you.
[03:23] <rickey> well i mmean i did downloaded it
[03:23] <rickey>  but it installed it,s self
[03:24] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: if you have better experience with this, could you please help him?
[03:24] <rickey> jucato do you do any live chat?
[03:24] <Jucato> I use Kopete. but I don't have an AIM account
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> I use AIM, but I didn't register through pidgin.
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> rickey: do you already have an AIM screen name?
[03:25] <Jucato> and I have other accounts that were registered even before I started using Linux
[03:25] <rickey> nosre i was talking about yahoo chat anyway
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> rickey: oh.. ok... do you already have a yahoo account?
[03:27] <rickey> yes
[03:27] <rickey> for many years
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> rickey: no need to register a new one then.
[03:27] <rickey> all that stuff went ok
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> just put in your sn and password and you're good
[03:27] <BluesKaj> doesn't kopete have yahoo capability?
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. it does
[03:28] <rickey> and it took me to a pre chat room asking me to click a link that would let me go to the chatroom of my choice
[03:28] <evilidler> I think Kopete has more such support built-in than Pidgin
[03:28] <Zombine> So... is there some way to change the percentage of touchpad used for scrolling?
[03:29] <rickey> but my browser wouldnt send the click back
[03:29] <BluesKaj> which browser ?
[03:29] <rickey> but kopete wont dont yahoo live chat
[03:29] <rickey> chatrooms
[03:30] <BluesKaj> you prolly have to config the default browser in pidgin
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> Zombine: I think so.
[03:30] <rickey> the one that was working with the install
[03:31] <rickey> bluues  i have firefox
[03:31] <BluesKaj> is it default in other apps like irc clients
[03:31] <Zombine> nosrednaekim: So.... Like.... what option and where?
[03:31] <Doctor_Nick> guys, ark sucks, ALOT
[03:31] <Doctor_Nick> are there any alternatives
[03:32] <Jucato> Doctor_Nick: try karchiver.. but I heard it sucks more...
[03:32] <rickey> blues how is this done
[03:32] <Jucato> Doctor_Nick: you can search for something in http://www.kde-apps.org
[03:32] <rickey> blues i dont know
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> Zombine: ASFAIK, you have to Download the official synaptics driver (its int he repos) and then do some configureations
[03:32] <rickey>  it is my defult
[03:32] <rickey> that i use for the internet
[03:33] <NightBird> I'm wanting to get a new wireless card... any suggestions on what to get?
[03:34] <rickey> how dose one configure there bowser for chat
[03:35] <BluesKaj> what irc client are you using
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> NightBird: hey... umm desktop or laptop?
[03:35] <NightBird> laptop
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> NightBird: miniPCI or PCMCIA?
[03:36] <rickey> Xchat and this one
[03:36] <rickey> Konversation
[03:36] <NightBird> nosrednaekim: the one that is the internal slot that requires some screw drivers to open as opposed to the wide one on the side... I don't know which one that is
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> miniPCI :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | NightBird
[03:36] <ubotu> NightBird: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> NightBird: try to get an atheros or RaLink
[03:37] <NightBird> ok
[03:39] <rathel> I connect to another computer through SSH and I use ssh -X, anyway I can bring an application from that computer to this one in it's current state instead of opening a new one?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> rathel: no... you can't do that
[03:40] <rathel> nosrednaekim: Aw didn't think so.
[03:42] <Zombine> nosrednaekim: Alright.  Will try; thanks :D
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> Zombine: sorry I couldn't help more
[03:43] <hydrogen> asdf
[03:43] <hydrogen> why do all mail clients suck in kde
[03:43] <hydrogen> with imap
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> Kmail?
[03:43] <hydrogen> sucks
[03:44] <hydrogen> it arbitarily crashes
[03:44] <hydrogen> and likes to download all mail and then reupload it before you can read it
[03:44] <ardchoille> hydrogen: Keep in mind that is your opinion
[03:44] <hsystem-x> compiz fusion awesome stuff :)
[03:44] <hydrogen> ardchoille: err, I'm fairly sure that working is a qualification for not sucking..
[03:44] <hydrogen> but I suppose that is my opinion
[03:45] <ardchoille> hydrogen: kmail has never crashed on me. In fact, I can't remember when any app has crashed on any of my systems.
[03:45] <hydrogen> ardchoille: and do you use it for large imap accounts?
[03:45] <ardchoille> I don't use imap
[03:45] <hydrogen> okay
[03:45] <hydrogen> so don't talk
[03:45] <hydrogen> thanks!
[03:45] <ardchoille> hydrogen: You're funny :)
[03:45] <hydrogen> my complaint was explicitly about kde mail clients when using imap
[03:46] <hydrogen> if you have no experience in such things
[03:46] <hydrogen> then your opinion is not that helpful
[03:46] <Jucato> hydrogen: rumor has it mailody is great with imap
[03:46] <ardchoille> hydrogen: Maybe you should file a bug report and make this problem known.
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: yep... indeed
[03:46] <hydrogen> Jucato: yea.. I've used it once or twice
[03:46] <hydrogen> but it just crashed as soon as I started it
[03:46] <hydrogen> it still has a ways to go :/
[03:46] <Jucato> heh.. you've talked to toma about it?
[03:46] <hydrogen> yea
[03:47] <Zombine> nosrednaekim: Twill be enough I think :D
[03:47] <nonewmsgs> my ipod isnt mounting either :|
[03:47] <hydrogen> I think mailody is going to be great eventually
[03:47] <Jucato> rumor also has it that kmail really sucks for imap... but that it's supposed to be getting better... operative word: supposed to
[03:47] <hydrogen> I just don't think its there yet
[03:47] <Jucato> unfortunately it doesn't have POP3, so I have no use for it :(
[03:47] <Jucato> nor would I be testing it... :(
[03:47] <hydrogen> it doesn't support multiple accounts either
[03:47] <hydrogen> so its really limited
[03:48] <hydrogen> I'll just deal with kmail I guess
[03:48] <mluser-home> Anyone know how I can use knetworkmanager for connecting to wifi networks without having to provide my kwallet password everytime?
[03:48] <holycow> why not use thunderbird?
[03:48] <holycow> its actually pretty good with imap
[03:48] <hydrogen> because I can't stand mozilla
[03:48] <hydrogen> or any of its products
[03:48] <holycow> and excellent with multiple account
[03:48] <rathel> In Ktorrent how do I check if I have full connection?
[03:53] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to fix this error? http://yurimxpxman.dyndns.org/error
[03:55] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Looks like you might be missing a lib
[03:55] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: any idea which one?
[03:56] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: No idea, but looks like you need to find "Term/Animation.pm"
[03:56] <Zombine> Does anyone know what the disease you get from eating people is called?
[03:56] <ardchoille> !ot | Zombine
[03:56] <ubotu> Zombine: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:57] <Zombine> Ah.  I see
[03:59] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Does this help? http://tinyurl.com/2t9ou3
[04:00] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: I found that file.. I'm not sure where I need to put it
[04:00] <yurimxpxman> all the places I've tried didn't work
[04:01] <danny500> >_<
[04:01] <danny500> I still can't install XP
[04:02] <yurimxpxman> danny500: who cares? :)
[04:02] <danny500> I got ubuntu installws
[04:02] <Quixogre> okay. i need help.
[04:02] <yurimxpxman> danny500: as long as you have GNU/Linux ;)
[04:02] <danny500> I do obviously
[04:02] <yurimxpxman> rawflz
[04:02] <danny500> no, not as long
[04:02] <yurimxpxman> it's easier to install XP before you install Kubuntu
[04:02] <danny500> did you not read what I said?
[04:03] <danny500> I CAN'T INSTALL XP
[04:03] <danny500> get that?
[04:03] <yurimxpxman> danny500: why not?
[04:03] <hydrogen> congratulations!
[04:03] <Quixogre> been trying all night to get ubuntu back up and running. iinstalled the nvidia graphics driver, and things went "wierd" for a bit. then i got them running smoothly. i thought. when i rebooted, Xwindows wont start up now
[04:03] <danny500> um
[04:03] <hydrogen> your in a much better place
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> danny500: and how is that kubuntu's fault?
[04:03] <yurimxpxman> exactly
[04:03] <hydrogen> you're
[04:03] <hydrogen> p
[04:03] <hydrogen> *
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> Quixogre: kernel driver probably.
[04:03] <danny500> Error in Setupdd.sys PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
[04:04] <Quixogre> nosrednaekim i figured as much. how do i back it out? or update whatever?
[04:04] <danny500>  It was talking about there could be a problem with the RAM settings
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> danny500: windows support is in #windows
[04:05] <danny500> k
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> danny500: and kubuntu doesn't affect them.
[04:05] <Avt3kk> im back in my ubuntu hehhehe
[04:05] <danny500> I like Ubuntu be It does not help with my gaming situation
[04:05] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Open a terminal and do:   apt-cache search asciiquarium
[04:05] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: I think it's in the repos
[04:05] <Avt3kk> get xp lol
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> danny500: yeah... unfortunately that is the most common complaint
[04:06] <Zombine> If you use WINE with actual Windows DLL
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> Quixogre: hmmmm well, use the nv driver temporarily
[04:06] <Zombine> would that help with teh gaming?
[04:06] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: It's in the universe repo
[04:06] <Quixogre> nosred? how do i
[04:06] <danny500> I don't feel like taking a week to set up WINE fully
[04:06] <Zombine> danny500: Well hell, that's half the fun :D
[04:07] <holycow> danny500: well i'm not sure we can actually help with winxp issues even if we tried ... if you are installing winxp but having problems ... the only thing we can say is for a dual boot box xp should be installed first and ubuntu second as the ubuntu installer will recognized xp
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> Quixogre: run this command from the terminal. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:07] <danny500> I'm not repeating how I can't install XP at all.
[04:07] <BluesKaj> danny500, if games are so important then buy a game console like Wii or something
[04:07] <holycow> and we aren't going to bother trying to help
[04:07] <Quixogre> danny, seriously dude. take a hint. WE DONT DO WINDOWS
[04:08] <holycow> why don't you solve windows issues by trying #windows instead
[04:08] <Zombine> danny500: But console games kinda blow.  And this isn't Microsoft chat
[04:08] <Jucato> !windows
[04:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:08] <danny500> If I had tons of money I would, but none of the systems have BIOSHOCK or FEAR
[04:08] <hsystem-x> lol, computers are more advanced for gaming that a console ...
[04:08] <marlio> hello people, i'm brazilian
[04:08] <hsystem-x> console came from computers.
[04:08] <danny500> and?
[04:08] <danny500> I'm Canadia
[04:08] <marlio> and i want to improve my english with conversation
[04:08] <danny500> Canadian
[04:08] <holycow> and go away and bother #windows people please
[04:08] <hsystem-x> ej: alienware computers far more superior than a ps3 for example...
[04:08] <Zombine> danny500: 360 has Bioshock.  But honestly, we can't help you here
[04:08] <marlio> hello
[04:08] <danny500> lol doing that
[04:08] <Jucato> marlio: sorry, this isn't the place to learn English
[04:08] <marlio> i'm brazilian
[04:09] <Jucato> !br | marlio
[04:09] <ubotu> marlio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:09] <marlio> I don't agree
[04:09] <danny500> lol Por favor is french >_<
[04:09] <NickPresta> danny500, no it isn't
[04:09] <hsystem-x> hehe LOL
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> ummm its spanish
[04:09] <marlio> because every place with people to use english
[04:09] <Jucato> danny500: no it's not
[04:09] <Zombine> marlio: You could just watch us talk?
[04:09] <holycow> danny500: i trully hope your not as dumb as you read to be
[04:09] <holycow> seriously
[04:09] <Quixogre> no. si vous plais is french. por favor is portuguease or spanish
[04:09] <Jucato> marlio: this channel is not for learning english
[04:09] <danny500> lol no
[04:10] <marlio> in this place i can learn
[04:10] <marlio> I know
[04:10] <danny500> oh wait, the french is Pour Favor
[04:10] <markgreene> Hey guys. I have 5.1 speakers. When I was running windows I could plug them in and windows would detect them and configure the ports on my sound card for the speakers plugged in. How do I setup the ports on my sound card for linux?
[04:10] <holycow> marlio: well as long as yo make an effort to help your self first we will try
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> reading a lot of linux guides helps :)
[04:10] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:10] <Zombine> Bye Marilo....
[04:10] <BluesKaj> danny500, where in canada are you , cuz most canucks know that por favor is not french
[04:11] <Quixogre> funny. i usually like canucks. this ones just dumber than a sack of hammers though
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> markgreene: if noone here knows.. go to #alsa.
[04:11] <Zombine> danny500: I think he was being sarcastic
[04:11] <markgreene> nosrednaekim: thanks I will check them out now
[04:12] <NickPresta> danny500, pour favor isn't french either. "For favor" makes no sense...
[04:12] <NickPresta> and yes, !offtopic, I know :)
[04:12] <BluesKaj> the french is s'il vous plait
[04:12] <Zombine> NickPresta: It kinda does when you think about it.  "Do this as a favor to me"
[04:12] <holycow> Zombine: no it doesn't
[04:12] <holycow> right offtopic
[04:13] <Jucato> guys, can you please take the language discussion out of here? thanks
[04:13] <ardchoille> Does kubuntu come with full commercial support like Ubuntu does?
[04:13] <Zombine> yeah... let's argue in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <BluesKaj> bye
[04:13] <gord> hey, can any of you guys deal with this: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+question/14296 ? some guy posted a support request about being banned from #kubuntu.
[04:13] <Jucato> ardchoille: from Canonical, yes I think so
[04:13] <BluesKaj> i'm staying here
[04:14] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, nice
[04:14] <Jucato> BluesKaj: can't be in two channels at the same time?
[04:14] <gord> oop sorry thats the beta url https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+question/14296
[04:14] <Quixogre> bbl. gonna reinstall the generic drivers for xwindows, see if i can get it back up
[04:15] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i can but , the topic isn't worth pursuing further
[04:15] <Jucato> :
[04:15] <Jucato> :)
[04:15] <Zombine> And... what do they mean by "full commerical support" anyway?  There's no tech support that I know of (besides here), you don't pay for the OS, there is no warranty... I'm not criticizing Ubuntu or anything, but what is there to support commercially
[04:16] <NickPresta> Zombine, you can buy professional support
[04:16] <Quixogre> zombine there IS professional support. if you're willing to pay for it
[04:16] <ardchoille> Zombine: I don't know, but http://www.ubuntu.com/ shows "The Ubuntu Promise" and it says "Ubuntu comes with full commercial support from Canonical .."
[04:17] <Quixogre> we're the poor schmucks who cant afford/dont believe in paying for support we can get better for freew
[04:17] <Zombine> And Canonical is a tech support service?
[04:17] <Zombine> Quixogre: Amen!
[04:17] <Quixogre> canonical is the company that basically started ubuntu
[04:18] <BluesKaj> defrag linux ..i guess the banned guy din't read any of the answers he got :)
[04:18] <czer323> And they support Ubuntu.  So, if you have seroius problems and need serious help, they can help you for a price.
[04:18] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: what's the package name?
[04:18] <Zombine> Linux was never meant for the mainsteam.  Way I understand, it's more or less "by programmers for programmers" with features that they would like/need, and none that they would not
[04:18] <Zombine> But I guess not everyone thinks that way...
[04:19] <Jucato> fortunately
[04:19] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman:  kdescreensaver-aasaver
[04:19] <Quixogre> zom,bine although i think thats a great sentiment, linux still has to pay the bills for SOMEONE. in order to do so, it has to find ways of charging money
[04:20] <NickPresta> how would I kill every single thing owned by every single user logged in?
[04:20] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: no..?
[04:20] <Quixogre> NickPresta killall
[04:21] <Zombine> NickPresta: Turn off the power :D
[04:21] <czer323> sudo init6 ? ;)
[04:21] <NickPresta> heh
[04:21] <ardchoille> lol
[04:22] <NickPresta> I suppose I'm looking for `slay`
[04:22] <yurimxpxman> NickPresta: sudo killall5
[04:22] <ardchoille> Where can I find a list of run levels and what they mean?
[04:22] <Jucato> ardchoille: um.. Google...
[04:22] <czer323> google, it's a fairly common thing
[04:23] <Jucato> there are only 6, with the 6th for reboot I think. so it's not so hard to look for :)
[04:23] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: oh, I see what you're talking about
[04:23] <yurimxpxman> ardchoille: no, I'm trying to use the console version
[04:24] <ardchoille> yurimxpxman: Oh, ok.. never tried that
[04:24] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thanks, I found http://www.skullbox.net/init.php
[04:31] <root__> okay. need some help pelase
[04:32] <NickPresta> we're here for you, root__
[04:32] <root__> <~ quixogre
[04:32] <NickPresta> we're here for you too =D
[04:32] <Jucato> first thing you should know, do not go online as root :)
[04:32] <quixogre> there. now i feel like my old self. sorta
[04:33] <quixogre> lol this is the only way i can get into xwindows...
[04:33] <quixogre> now ya see why i need help...
[04:34] <quixogre> dpkg -configure -phigh xserver-xorg fixed my original problem...i can now launch xwindows again
[04:34] <quixogre> but only as root
[04:34] <quixogre> im afraid to reboot, because then i wont be able to get back on
[04:35] <Jucato> time to install and learn how to use irssi :)
[04:35] <Jucato> survival kit for users :)
[04:35] <ardchoille> quixogre: "Man who play in root eventually kill tree"
[04:36] <quixogre> ardchoille: hehe nothing on this pc im nto afraid to lose. lifes good when yer livin on the edge
[04:36] <BluesKaj> irssi rocks, helped me numerous times
[04:37] <quixogre> so now my dillemma is this. how do i get my nvidia drivers back, and running PROPERLY?
[04:38] <ardchoille> quixogre: No offense, but if you're willing to log in as root and irc in that account, then there's no telling what else you've done to create problems.
[04:39] <quixogre> ardchoille: no offense taken. but believe it or not, i havent changed anything, except installing the drivers from nvidia home page
[04:39] <DropKickMurpheys> speaking of nvidia drivers
[04:39] <DropKickMurpheys> how can i tell if i have the proper ones?
[04:40] <quixogre> brb. gonna reboot, and see if i can still log into windows. worst case, can use the dpkg trick again
[04:40] <ardchoille> DropKickMurpheys: "glxinfo | grep render" .. if you have hardware accel, then it's probably working fine.
[04:40] <evilidler> The proper ones don't crash when you run 3D programs.
[04:40] <DropKickMurpheys> lol
[04:40] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[04:41] <DropKickMurpheys> i'm using feistys cube junk
[04:41] <DropKickMurpheys> so it must be working
[04:41] <DropKickMurpheys> :D
[04:41] <|neon|> have a question about gutsy and crossover , after installing crossover i do  not get any menus have anyone try crossover on gutsy and if so did it work, thx
[04:42] <DropKickMurpheys> Oh, 1 more quick question
[04:42] <ardchoille> |neon|: Please aks in #ubuntu+1
[04:42] <ardchoille> s/aks/ask/
[04:43] <|neon|> ardchoille: ok thx
[04:43] <DropKickMurpheys> is there anyway i can get a program that can schedule downloads? I'm using Satellite internet and it has a Bandwith cap limit. It becomes disabled at 3 A.M EST and i really don't want to stay up just to start a download.
[04:43] <evilidler> DropKickMurpheys: cron, wget
[04:43] <quixogre> woot! got it :)
[04:43] <DropKickMurpheys> which would you recommend?
[04:44] <evilidler> DropKickMurpheys: It's not an or ;)
[04:44] <ardchoille> DropKickMurpheys: He means you would have to set up a cronjob for a wget session
[04:44] <DropKickMurpheys> Ah
[04:45] <evilidler> DropKickMurpheys: You use crontab -e to edit the crontab, and make it wget the files in question.
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> Hmm, is that fairly easy to do? I'm an ultimate linux newbie.
[04:45] <evilidler> Then you kill all processes running wget at the point where your ISP goes fascist again
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> Heh
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> k
[04:45] <evilidler> DropKickMurpheys: It's not too terribly hard, actually.
[04:45] <DropKickMurpheys> ok, thank you :D
[04:46] <evilidler> Just read up on cron via "man cron". Then note down the syntax.
[04:46] <DropKickMurpheys> would cron also be called kcron?
[04:46] <evilidler> You could also pool together all your wget commands in a shell script and call that from the crontab.
[04:46] <evilidler> DropKickMurpheys: That would be a frontend to it, I guess. Does the same trick.
[04:46] <quixogre> okay. call me stubborn, but im gonna take another crack at this. i've installed the nvidia drivers for linux, but running them automatically seems to crash xwindows completely. is there a way to figure out whats causing the crash, and fix it?
[04:46] <DropKickMurpheys> ok
[04:46] <ardchoille> DropKickMurpheys: http://www.linuxweblog.com/node/24
[04:47] <evilidler> quixogre: /var/log/X11.something
[04:48] <evilidler> quixogre: Pastebin your xorg.conf, and I can tell if you're loading something you might want to remove
[04:51] <quixogre> evilidler: found my logfile, but its a newer one. not the one that was causing crash...
[04:52] <evilidler> quixogre: Your xorg.conf might be enough of a hint, anyway
[04:53] <quixogre> evilidler: gimme a sec. gonna reload nvidia drivers, let it build the xorg.conf that was causing crash, and send that to ya...
[04:53] <sirjoshimus> hi there, im using ubuntu server
[04:53] <sirjoshimus> dapper, and i cant seem to load up fluxbox
[04:53] <sirjoshimus> its saying it cant connect to xserver
[04:53] <robin> any one know if the 8800 video card issue is going to be resolved in the final release?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> robin no issues here
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> so i say its fixed
[04:55] <robin> install issue wit hblack screen
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> had no problems here.
[04:56] <robin> when installing
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> 8800gtsXXX :)
[04:56] <robin> yes, I get a black screen when installing
[04:57] <quixogre> brb, gotta stop X server before i can run the nvidia files
[04:57] <robin> I know others do to as i just did a search on google
[04:58] <ManiDhillon> Where to find new cool icon packs?
[04:58] <DropKickMurpheys> lol, not trying to down linux but
[04:59] <ManiDhillon> ! icon packages
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon packages - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <DropKickMurpheys> with an 8800gts i would be pimping me some windows.
[04:59] <ManiDhillon> ! icon
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <ManiDhillon> How to set a picture ith a login name?
[05:00] <ardchoille> ManiDhillon: Looking for more icon themes?
[05:00] <ManiDhillon> ardchoille Yeah can you help me?
[05:00] <usser> ManiDhillon: kde-look.org
[05:01] <ardchoille> ManiDhillon: I don't know how to set a pic with a login name
[05:01] <quixogre> evilidler: still here?
[05:01] <evilidler> quixogre: Yep
[05:01] <quixogre> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <ManiDhillon> kde-look.org Okay I'll check that Thanls.
[05:03] <quixogre> evilidler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39223/
[05:03] <evilidler> quixogre: Are you using a touchpad or something like that?
[05:03] <quixogre> evilidler: nope
[05:04] <evilidler> quixogre: Then you can at least drop the last three devices in ServerLayout
[05:04] <quixogre> done
[05:05] <evilidler> quixogre: The module section is exactly like mine, so it's fine
[05:05] <evilidler> quixogre: Now the three InputDevice sections for those lines can be removed from a bit further down, just to tidy up the file
[05:06] <quixogre> okies. gonna reboot. if i get the crash, will save the logfile to different location, run dpkg -reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command, and come back with the log....hopefully be right back
[05:06] <evilidler> quixogre: There is one more setting you can use for full visuals
[05:06] <evilidler> quixogre:         Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" (in the Device section for the graphics card)
[05:07] <evilidler> quixogre: Are you using an LCD monitor?
[05:07] <quixogre> yes
[05:08] <evilidler> quixogre: Then you should trim the resolutions a bit. Keep only the default resolution, and maybe kill off lower bitdepths you don't use
[05:08] <quixogre> also using a secondary monitor, but will worry about that once i get these drivers running
[05:08] <evilidler> quixogre: Yeah, the primary monitor is most important. Mine was black till I got the right resolution set (1680x1050)
[05:09] <quixogre> 1440x900 is default here
[05:09] <evilidler> Anything else either was black in most cases, since I don't use DVI on it
[05:09] <quixogre> mines DVI if that makes a difference
[05:09] <evilidler> DVI can make a difference. Lemme check the docs real quick
[05:10] <quixogre> rebooting. just to see if this works...brb. hhopefully
[05:10] <evilidler> Yeah, DVI means more automatic stuff works
[05:11] <nicetry> hello
[05:12] <nicetry> i have one, problem. how do i install the fonts for wine file/?
[05:13] <nicetry> i open a program useing wine file and it does not show the fonts
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Hmm the .wine dir has some windows/fonts dir.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> could put them in there . if ya knew where to get them
[05:21] <evilidler> You probably want to get msttcorefonts
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> thats a to do first :)
[05:22] <quixogre> !pastebin
[05:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:23] <quixogre> evilidler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39224/ it crashed...but saved the log file this time
[05:23] <nicetry> Dr_Willis:i run my win program useing wine file  the program runs great the font does not show can u help/?
[05:24] <nicetry> evilidler:i have msttcorefonts, installed
[05:25] <DropKickMurpheys> !java
[05:25] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:25] <evilidler> quixogre: I suspect there's a mismatch between the actual nvidia module and the xorg drivers. I remember having to specify that the initrd should include nvidia, then making a new initrd.
[05:26] <evilidler> nicetry: I think they get their own directory somewhere. Copy the ttf files from there into .wine/fonts, or wherever, and Wine should have them available.
[05:26] <quixogre> bah. fsckit. been fooling weith this now for 8 hours. time for a break. i'll hit it again tomorrow
[05:26] <mike-kubuntu> hey, how do i modprobe the right driver for a usb ps2 controller
[05:27] <evilidler> quixogre: Yeah, if you look around the net, you'll find there's a seriously nasty problem with them..you might have as many as three slightly different versions of the kernel module
[05:27] <evilidler> quixogre: Better tackle it when rested :)
[05:27] <evilidler> Last time my drivers messed up, I reinstalled.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Windows Training! :)
[05:27] <quixogre> okies. thanks for the help evilidler...will ttya tomorrow
[05:27] <mike-kubuntu> I'm sure its mounted, however it's mounted under /dev/input/event3 and the driver must be wrong because it gets constant feedback whereas in all my previouse installs it only gave me feedback when the buttons were pressed and it used to mount at /dev/input/js0
[05:28] <evilidler> Dr_Willis: And certified!
[05:28] <nicetry> evilidler:where i get the ttf files and how i fine the wine/fonts dir
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> look in the .wine dir
[05:28] <evilidler> nicetry: Dunno. I saw someone mention that there is a .wine dir with a fonts subdir
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> it has a mirror of a windows install in there.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:29] <evilidler> A mirror of the working parts, anyway :P
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Then again.. installing the mstcore fonts pakcage SHOULD take care of it.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Install spyware with wine.. and look in .wine and see what it puts where. :)
[05:29] <nicetry> i open the c:/ and xwindow / fonts there/
[05:29] <nicetry> /?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> nicetry LOOK in the .wine dir
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> or was that for niceity.. :)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> heh
[05:30] <nicetry> where is that
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> .wine is in the users home dir.. with 199999999999999+ other .whatever dirs
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> or so they seem to accumulate. :)
[05:30] <evilidler> Stop making .pornN dirs and try to tidy up occasionally :)
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> every stupid game/program needs its own .whatever file or dir.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> getting rather sad. :)
[05:31] <nicetry> am lostt
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> I must of had 300 .files befor
[05:32] <evilidler> Yeah, I think a program to watch the .dirs is needed.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> nicetry use the terminal...   cd .wine    , then ls
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> the layout of the .wine dir is worth exploring.
[05:32] <evilidler> Something that knows the connection between the dpkg and the .dir so you can blow away the ones you don't have use for
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> or make the file manager show 'hidden files' and it will show up
[05:32] <nicetry> bash: cd: wine: No such file or directory
[05:32] <evilidler> DOT wine. Note the dot in front.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> nicetry its .wine with a ........................................
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> . . . . . . . . . .
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:32] <nicetry> ok
[05:33] <nicetry> i did it
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> you DID install the mstcore fonts package?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[05:33] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:33] <nicetry> yeah
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> theres some 'install vista fonts' scripts out also. heh
[05:34] <nicetry> i did"sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[05:34] <nicetry> now what
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> try running ya program again with wine whatever.exe
[05:35] <nicetry> no letter
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> letter? what letter?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> I dont need no stinking letter. :)
[05:35] <nicetry> when i open the program it open but does not show any letter
[05:36] <nicetry> i mean fonts
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Try copying the various font files over to that .wine/whatever/windows/fonts dir then I guess
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> it could be the program you are running is just  one that dont like wine.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Hmm if installing fonts.. they should be seen idmietly by the system.. i think..
[05:37] <nicetry> where i get all the fonts
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> not sure if a logout is needed.. might be worth a shot..   i forget the command to   make X recache the fonts
[05:37] <mike-kubuntu> does udev keep a log of what it mounts where?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> nicetry from a windows machine  would be one place.
[05:38] <mike-kubuntu> my ps2 joystick is bieng really annoying, i cant find out where its mounted or what its mounted with and either way it seems screwed up
[05:38] <nicetry> i format my drive
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> or use mc, and open up that msttcorefonts package and loon in there.
[05:38] <evilidler> I think just running defoma with sudo does some sort of font magic
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> look in there.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> it downloaded to /var/cache/apt/Somthing....
[05:39] <evilidler>  /var/cache/apt/archives/ - my $HOME away from $HOME
[05:40] <nicetry> am looking see what i can do real quick
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> yep - its fun to explore whats in the  packages. :0
[05:43] <nicetry> ok i found the tff files for mscorefont but it wouldnt let me move it to c/win/fonts in wine file
[05:44] <nicetry> i mean ttf files
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> where is this c/win/fonts comming from?
[05:44] <nicetry> from wine file program
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> my wine dir is not laid out that way at all.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> it would be like /home/willis/.wine/fake_c/windows/fonts
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> i think....
[05:46] <nicetry> ok i move the ttf files to /home/willis/.wine/fake_c/windows/fonts
[05:47] <evilidler> Why the heck would you MOVE them?
[05:47] <nicetry> it didnt have any ttf files
[05:47] <evilidler> Copy.
[05:47] <nicetry> yeah i copy and paste
[05:47] <evilidler> Don't want to move them away from where they're supposed to be.
[05:48] <nicetry> it still wont show the font for the programs
[05:48] <bastian> hello
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. silly windows virus checker.. found one.. then 'healed' the infected file by deleting it.. :)
[05:56] <evilidler> Take off and nuke it from orbit; only way to be sure.
[05:57] <evilidler> That's really my approach to bothersome users, too
[05:57] <nicetry> i remember now would it help if i relinstall the program
[05:59] <jim> I dual boot with FC6 and XP, using grub. I'm thinking of going from FC6 to kubuntu. Will the install DVD see my windows partition and leave it alone so I can dual boot XP and Kubuntu?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Jim it should
[06:00] <nicetry> is does not show the font for that program
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> heck it can even see the existing linux installs and set up grub entrys for them
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> some times it even does them RIGHT! :)
[06:00] <jim> really so it will ask if I want to get rid of FC6
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> no... it can install to another place and have a grub entry for FC6
[06:01] <jim> so I would have to remove FC6
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> if you want it to replace fc, i suggest using fdisk and deleting the fc partitions. then tell the installer to use the unallocaed apace.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> same as ya remove anything. :)  fdisk! heh.. hard core.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> or use gparted.
[06:02] <jim> I was hoping it would do it for me so I can blame it in case I do something stupid with fdisk : )
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> it proberly can.. but i find it easier to be sure to delete what i want.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> then to figure out the installers 'helpfull' fdisking tools
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> 'use unallocated space' is about as clear as it gets.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> other then 'use entire disk' :)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> You will have to either set the mount points properly where yoru FC is at.. or delete them and let the installer make new partitions and mount points automaticially
[06:04] <jim> right I hear ya. Ok I assume it uses ext3?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> it can. :)
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> of course your FC install may be using LVM, or somthing else..
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu normally wants to use ext3
[06:07] <jim> ok FC is ext3 so I guess I'll just back it all up and delete it. Yikes!,
[06:09] <jim> keep hearing rave reviews about kubuntu so figure I'll see what all the hype is about. I wonder if I can copy my home directory back to Kubuntu?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> back it up? :) heh..
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> The next release of Kubuntu is in beta testing right now. due out in like 3 weeks.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> shareing Home dirs is doable.. BUT ive had issues with kde and gnome settings in the past.
[06:11] <jim> ya all those dot files could be messy
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> for a while gnome and kde both were having 'issues' with config files from earlier releases/homedirs on my box's
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> had to whipe out a few .kde conf ig dirs in the past. dosent seem tobe as much of an issue these days
[06:12] <jim> is it easy to upgrade from present kubuntu to beta when it is released ie. is it just an apt or yum command?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> apt-get update :)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[06:12] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> fairly easy.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> but I perfer to do clean reinstalls. (since its just me on this box)
[06:13] <joez> !upgrade
[06:13] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> factoids need upgraded soon. :)
[06:14] <jim> It would be nice if someone wrote some scripts to upgrade from Fedora to Ubuntu, I'm sure there are a lot of people moving that way.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a huge nightmare. :)
[06:14] <holycow> the script is something like this actually:
[06:14] <Dr_Willis>  put /home on its own partition/drive...  keep it safe.. reinstall rest of teh OS.
[06:15] <holycow> burn installer cd, put in cd tray, reboot
[06:15] <holycow> :)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> users might never notice.
[06:15] <hydrogen> yes
[06:15] <hydrogen> that owuld be the only choice
[06:17] <jim> I'm asuming then that I put the install CD in and it will tell me what it sees before I have to commit to something? ie. it won't just start installing right?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I will be the first to admit that the  eye candy in Compiz, puts vista to shame. :)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> jim live cd - a desktop cd. + installer button. :)
[06:18] <jim> ok downloading via torrent now.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> alternative cd - starts asking Q's
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> you 'might' want to just go with the beta... if you are brave. :)
[06:20] <jim> but the desktop cd will at least tell me what it finds and ask me what I want to commit to . Installer button doesn't just start installing does it?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> of coruse not.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> theres a huge long wizard :0
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> this isent windows. :)
[06:21] <jim> ok thanks a lot, just double checking to remove an oops factor..
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:23] <jim>  : ) .
[06:26] <jim> off the top of your head can you think of anything other than my home directory that I may want to save to move into Kubuntu from FC6? I've downloaded a lot of programs on FC6 but I assume I'll find them all in Kubuntu repos..
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> samba config if you use samba..
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> vmware machines..
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you do really.
[06:27] <intelikey> xorg.conf is it's special...    network configs if they are special...
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> its good to keep backups of your xorg.conf - but it seems the different disrtos are doing a lot of varity in whats in xorg.conf tghese days..
[06:28] <jim> ok none of that , ya thats not a fair question. Oh ya xorg.conf good idea : )
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> little things - font paths and so forth. often are radicially different.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> but a xorg.conf backup has saved my backside on many a day
[06:29] <intelikey> that's pretty much every thing...    just special configs if any and  /homw
[06:29] <intelikey> homw ???  heh   home maybe.
[06:30] <jim> ok thank you. You've been super helpful. Hopefully I'll be a happy Kubuntu user soon : )
[06:30] <jcs7778> Is there a way to change the look of the kmenu, ive been looking through the systme settings dialogue and there don't seem to be any options, also I have found almonst nothing useful form various google searches
[06:30] <intelikey> you'll probably be a kubuntu user.  happy is not dictated by distro...
[06:31] <intelikey> jcs7778 right click the [K]   and configure it
[06:32] <ManiDhillon> I'm in a problem, Its regarding MIME TYPES.
[06:32] <ManiDhillon> Can anyone help me?
[06:33] <jcs7778> intelikey: that only lets me change where things are not the look and feel, I am trying to change the general theme of the kmenu not the position of various things in the kmenu
[06:34] <ManiDhillon> Whenever i click on any application to launch it, before launchinh it display a ERROR message that Could not find MIME type application/octet-stream
[06:34] <hatter> i am on feisty and cant build the nvidia propietary module
[06:34] <ManiDhillon> PLEASE help me!
[06:34] <Dr_Willis>  Night all.,
[06:34] <hatter> i have the sources and the 97 series driver from the nvidia website, with an mx440 card
[06:35] <ManiDhillon> ! setting everything to default
[06:35] <hatter> i get the error : /bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: not found
[06:35] <hatter> in the nvidia log
[06:35] <hatter> anyone got any clue about this error ?
[06:35] <ManiDhillon> ! default
[06:35] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[06:36] <intelikey> jcs7778 kcontrol theme
[06:38] <Jucato> !kmenu
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <Jucato> bah!
[06:38] <rc-1> how many watts of power does a laptop draw
[06:38] <tzanger> rc-1: depends, about 90 though
[06:38] <rc-1> ah thanks
[06:39] <intelikey> depends on what it's doing.   eye candy is high priced   but not as high as major disk io
[06:42] <GUMMM> i have files in a folder and i want to delete one. how do i do that from the terminal?
[06:42] <intelikey> and major disk io over a network to produce eye candy  == dead battery
[06:42] <tzanger> if the supply's rated for 90W, I don't care what your eye candy's doing or your hard drive, you ain't getting more than that (not for very long, anyway)
[06:42] <ardchoille> GUMMM: rm filename
[06:42] <GUMMM> thanx
[06:43] <intelikey> GUMMM rm /path/to/file.name
[06:43] <intelikey> GUMMM rm reletive/path/to/file.name
[06:45] <intelikey> tzanger the "not for very long"  makes sense.   but you can definitely pull higher than the rating on all (or at least almost all) PSU's
[06:46] <intelikey> just not continuous
[06:48] <level1> hi, how do I turn off the beeping in the virtual terminal?
[06:48] <tzanger> intelikey: I am an industrial power electronics engineer...  trust me, I know :-)
[06:49] <intelikey> level1 modprobe -r pcspeeker
[06:49] <tzanger> there's continuous ratings, peak ratings, duty cycle, ambient temp, cooling method and other factors :-)
[06:49] <intelikey> tzanger prezactly.
[06:49] <level1> intelikey: doesn't that turn off all sounds, like amarok and stuff?
[06:49] <tzanger> prezactly hahaa
[06:50] <intelikey> level1 no.  only turns off the beep in console
[06:50] <level1> intelikey: how can I disable it perminately?
[06:50] <intelikey> level1 there is another way.   man bash for the specifics on it.
[06:51] <intelikey> level1 you could blacklist the module   or setup /etc/inputrc  with the correct setting    as i said man bash for that
[06:51] <level1> intelikey: its not in man bash
[06:51] <intelikey> i think it is.
[06:52] <level1> intelikey: do you see it somewhere? because I can't find it
[06:53] <level1> how do I blacklist the module?
[06:53] <intelikey> i'll install man-db and look   but i'm pretty sure it's there.
[06:53] <intelikey> level1 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:55] <intelikey> level1 in man bash under "readline veriables"   section   bell-style
[06:56] <level1> okay, thanks
[06:56] <intelikey> maybe other ways too
[06:58] <intelikey> level1 you may want to look at  "show-all-if-*"   in man bash also
[06:59] <intelikey> i actually prefer the system bell be usable, just not hear it each time in hit the tab key
[06:59] <level1> intelikey: anyway, neither gutsy nor feisty will boot into anything besides fglrx... debian worked with vesa, but ati rejects my card
[07:00] <level1> intelikey: is there a way to tell ati: "screw you, shut up, and boot X anyway"?
[07:00] <intelikey> level1 eeek   ati and ubuntu  in my exp. are not on speeking terms.
[07:00] <level1> intelikey: I meant ati the driver, not ati the company
[07:01] <level1> intelikey: is there another driver that might work on my card?  mobility X1400?
[07:02] <intelikey> level1 not usless you can use a generic driver of some kind there isn't.    vga(which you don't want)  vesa(which you can't use) or ati which is probably the propritary driver.
[07:02] <level1> intelikey: is there a driver called radeon?
[07:03] <level1> intelikey: I'd consider using vga at this point, fglrx is going to cause my computer to burn up, its overheating
[07:03] <intelikey> if fbcon is working you could kernel frame buffering as an X driver   but that will most likely really hose things if you drop out of x for any reason
[07:04] <level1> intelikey: hmmm... well, from the sound of it, I think I'll just go back to debian
[07:05] <intelikey> use what works for you man.
[07:05] <level1> intelikey: I was hoping that there was something that would fix it, like changing some of the options in xorg.conf
[07:06] <level1> intelikey: was gutsy supposed to have bullet proof X?
[07:06] <intelikey> it's not released yet.
[07:06] <intelikey> it's "beta"
[07:07] <level1> intelikey: I'm running it now, I thought it would fix some of my problems
[07:07] <intelikey> you can ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[07:07] <level1> intelikey: and I for sure don't have bullet proof X
[07:08] <twylight> hey
[07:08] <intelikey> yeah i have mentioned several times in here that "not all hardware can use VESA vidio"  but no one listens to me.   i'm just that ranting lunatic
[07:08] <twylight> that's why we love you
[07:09] <intelikey> tyu
[07:09] <intelikey> -u
[07:09] <twylight> I'm looking for a halfway decent ORPG
[07:09] <twylight> not daimonin
[07:09] <intelikey> falcons eye ?
[07:10] <twylight> let me restate what I want
[07:10] <twylight> an online role playing game
[07:10] <intelikey> not sure that qualifies as "half way" ...
[07:10] <twylight> graphical
[07:10] <twylight> with other people
[07:11] <intelikey> graphic and rpg in one breath ???
[07:11] <twylight> something worth playing at 3:00 AM when I've got insomnia
[07:11] <intelikey> wesnoth ?
[07:11] <MasterShrek> how can i get rid of strigi? its totally kicking my computer's ass
[07:12] <intelikey> not really rpg i dont guess
[07:12] <twylight> remember first star online?
[07:12] <twylight> something like that
[07:12] <intelikey> actually.  no.   i'm not a gamer.
[07:12] <intelikey> !tome
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <intelikey> !game
[07:12] <RurouniJonezZzZ> Does Eve Online have a linux client yet?
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <intelikey> dumb bot.
[07:13] <NickPresta> MasterShrek, nethack. It's good at 3am and 3pm :)
[07:13] <MasterShrek> NickPresta, ?
[07:13] <twylight> nethack is not an online game
[07:13] <intelikey> NickPresta graphical ?
[07:13] <ardchoille> twylight: bzflag ?
[07:14] <NickPresta> you can use the QT interface if you want although I prefer the text-based version
[07:14] <twylight> I hate shooting down suggestions
[07:14] <twylight> bzflag isn't an RPG
[07:14] <MasterShrek> sudo apt-get remove strigi-daemon...duh
[07:14] <ardchoille> Ah, true
[07:15] <intelikey> you already shot mine down and i only give one
[07:15] <intelikey> or two
[07:15] <ardchoille> MasterShrek: Sounds like Gutsy
[07:15] <intelikey> maybe fifty seven   but no more
[07:15] <NickPresta> twylight, I don't know of any MMPORGs that are good. I've only played WoW and Guild Wars
[07:15] <twylight> >.>
[07:15] <twylight> this is frustrating
[07:16] <MasterShrek> ardchoille, yea it is, i guess i didnt think about the fact that strigi wasnt in feisty
[07:16] <twylight> and yet, this is why sourceforge exists
[07:16] <twylight> for people like me to MAKE software that doesn't exist yet
[07:16] <ardchoille> MasterShrek: Maybe join #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:16] <twylight> however I can't code
[07:16] <MasterShrek> ardchoille, im in there too, i figured it out myself tho =D
[07:16] <intelikey> twylight xml ?
[07:16] <ardchoille> twylight: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:17] <NickPresta> twylight, there's a whole world of out there that is free of charge and open source. Any missing features are your fault ;)
[07:17] <intelikey> gametome.org   i think is another source.
[07:18] <twylight> you guys are awesome
[07:18] <intelikey> is another source i think ?   which is propper grammer ?
[07:18] <twylight> thanks ^_^
[07:18] <twylight> in soviet russia, another source is YOU!!
[07:18] <ardchoille> intelikey: Proper grammar on irc? Surely you jest.
[07:18] <intelikey> indeed
[07:19] <intelikey> but i really don't know which is correct english so i asked ?
[07:19] <intelikey> neither maybe.
[07:20] <intelikey> this language starts on the wrong side of the page anyway.
[07:20] <NickPresta> haha
[07:21] <NickPresta> English is like Perl. Too many ways to do one thing and it looks confusing as hell to someone trying to learn the syntax ;)
[07:21] <intelikey> true dat
[07:23] <NickPresta> twylight, what do you see?
[07:24] <twylight> none of this is real
[07:24] <twylight> I see the code
[07:24] <twylight> I am the one!
[07:24] <twylight> :P
[07:24] <NickPresta> haha
[07:24] <arvin2212> hi guys
[07:24] <intelikey> arvin2212
[07:24] <arvin2212> :D
[07:25] <arvin2212> hmm...actually im using ubuntu
[07:25] <arvin2212> i was using kubuntu yesterday
[07:25] <arvin2212> but something went horribly wrong so i had to use ubuntu
[07:25] <arvin2212> :D
[07:25] <arvin2212> hmm
[07:25] <twylight> the word "palindrome" should be a palindrome
[07:25] <intelikey> the #ubuntu channel is ---------->
[07:25] <arvin2212> yes i know im there as well
[07:25] <arvin2212> :
[07:25] <arvin2212> :D
[07:25] <intelikey> !enter
[07:25] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:26] <twylight> D: but you're not using kubuntu
[07:26] <intelikey> not asking support questions either   so it hardly matters...
[07:26] <arvin2212> just want to ask u guys.. im having an ati x550 graphic card. Planning to install compiz but when i update my card, i cant run the desktop effects menu...any solutions for that?
[07:27] <arvin2212> :F
[07:27] <intelikey> the #ubuntu channel is ---------->
[07:27] <arvin2212> ok..
[07:27] <intelikey> not trying to just brush you off
[07:27] <arvin2212> heh
[07:27] <arvin2212> no proem
[07:27] <arvin2212> problem*
[07:27] <intelikey> just that the answers that we would give are probably kde specific
[07:28] <arvin2212> just wanted to see if anyone here have encountered the same problem
[07:28] <intelikey> polls ?
[07:29] <rathel> In Ktorrent how do I check if I have full connection?
[07:29] <intelikey> show of hands,  how many hate polls   (or pools, which ever you like)
[07:29] <intelikey> see everyone else hates them too
[07:29] <Daisuke-Laptop> or does everyone love them?
[07:30] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop well there's your answer...  :)
[07:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> very paradoxical of you
[07:30] <intelikey> ty
[07:30] <Daisuke-Laptop> paradoxical?  is that a word?
[07:30] <twylight> yes it is
[07:31] <twylight> my back hurts
[07:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> did i use it right?
[07:31] <intelikey> yes
[07:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> wow
[07:31] <intelikey> more or less.
[07:31] <Daisuke-Laptop> 1:30 in the morning and i didn't completely eff up :D
[07:32] <intelikey> like    less is more than more, cause more is less than less   <<<
[07:32] <eMaX> hi all
[07:33] <twylight> any furries in here?
[07:33] <intelikey> eMaX
[07:33] <twylight> furries are awesome
[07:33] <eMaX> how can I get rid of the "device discovery" windows that pop up whenever a new bluetooth device walks by my laptop - at the same time not switching off bluetooth altogether as I use it myself
[07:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> !offtopic |  For Bob's sake, please
[07:33] <ubotu> For Bob's sake, please: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> i wanted to say "eww"
[07:33] <intelikey> :)
[07:34] <intelikey> eMaX i have no idea.    sorry.    but be patient, maybe someone else does.
[07:36] <eMaX> hr
[07:36] <eMaX> tnx
[07:39] <intelikey> hmmm, to bob?
[07:40] <pramod> hello guys...
[07:40] <intelikey> pramod
[07:40] <pramod> i need to install mp3 support for my kubuntu... anyone knows how to do it?
[07:42] <pramod> when i try to play an mp3 file... it tells me there is no mp3 support... :(
[07:42] <pramod> help me anyone..
[07:42] <Pramod> anybody there?
[07:42] <intelikey> !mp3
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <Jucato> Pramod: install libxine-extracodecs
[07:43] <Pramod> okie thanx brothers...
[07:43] <Pramod> and anyone knows about jBaci here?
[07:44] <intelikey> !i
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <dsmith> whats a good wireless card to use, since I have broadcom in this laptop?
[07:45] <intelikey> check the supported hardware page
[07:45] <dsmith> :P
[07:45] <intelikey> !hardware
[07:45] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:46] <Pramod> jBaci is a concurrent programming simulator... made in java
[07:46] <intelikey> thus the preceeding "j" in it's name...
[07:46] <Pramod> and yes... i use panda3d... it tell me to use hardware accelerated driver... u know where can i get one?
[07:47] <intelikey> !nv
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:49] <Pramod> okie
[07:50] <intelikey> i'm not an okie,  i'm an arkie
[07:50] <intelikey> well no i'm not that eithere
[07:50] <intelikey> but anyway
[07:50] <dsmith> I have a Netgear card at home I'll try that
[07:50] <dsmith> Broadcom = too much work
[07:51] <intelikey> heard that some place     heh.   thought   "like there is a differance ???"
[07:51] <NickPresta> Goodnight #kubuntu!
[07:52] <intelikey> Jucato that may be my problem,  i haven't taken any meds.      not in 12 years now.
[07:52] <Jucato> no wonder...
[07:53] <intelikey> well you'd think it would have worked it's way out of my drug streem by now.....
[07:53] <intelikey> err blood.
[07:53] <Jucato> :P
[07:53] <intelikey> which ever you have...
[07:53] <intelikey> :)
[07:54] <Jucato> neither
[07:55] <intelikey> wait.  i lied.    i took two asprines   about 7 years ago,   just remembered that.        </blushes>
[07:56] <intelikey> seriously i think that's all.
[07:56] <Jucato> heh
[07:58] <intelikey> iostream goes into toilet Jucato     shhewwy
[07:58] <Jucato> O.o
[07:59] <intelikey> input output stream ...   never mind.
[08:08] <killermach> where do I download gutsy? all I find is 7.04 fiesty?
[08:09] <intelikey> !gutsy
[08:09] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:11] <Jucato> killermach: gutsy is currently still in beta, you can get or upgrade to gutsy, follow the instructions from http://kubuntu.org
[08:11] <killermach> found it thanks https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[08:12] <notv> do you think it will be relatively stable by the 18th?
[08:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm sure
[08:12] <intelikey> so what new things can we expect in 8.4  or is 8.4 an LTS   i.e 8.6 ???
[08:12] <Jucato> notv: it's supposed to be released on the 18th
[08:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> bear in mind this is google-style beta, not microsoft-style beta
[08:13] <Daisuke-Laptop> 8.04 is LTS
[08:13] <Jucato> not even kde-style-beta :P
[08:14] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop hmmm   ok.   so it could be delaied like dapper was.    depending on the development     right.
[08:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> i've been running gutsy since a week or so after tribe 5, and i haven't had any issues with it
[08:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> it could, but pretty unlikely
[08:14] <intelikey> wasn't likely with dapper either.   but happened
[08:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> part of that could also be attributed to the fact that dapper was an LTS release
[08:15] <intelikey> i wonder if any one has fixed the bug in ucf (dapper) yet ?
[08:15] <notv> what does LTS stand for
[08:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> long-term support
[08:15] <intelikey> !lts
[08:15] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:15] <holycow> !kde4
[08:15] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[08:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> whereas standard releases are only supported for 18 months
[08:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> which means as of the 8.04 release, i can officially start ignoring anyone using edgy :D
[08:16] <notv> i couldnt get the ati card on my laptop to work well with feisty
[08:16] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop you mean you haven't already ?
[08:16] <notv> i hope ill have better luck with gutsy
[08:17] <Daisuke-Laptop> intelikey: i try not to
[08:17] <intelikey> well may bob bless you.
[08:17] <holycow> is there a way to try kde4 on ubuntu without hosing kubuntu settings?
[08:18] <intelikey> but you can't ignore dapper Q's for another 3.5 years   heh
[08:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> only for server
[08:18] <notv> what about breezy
[08:18] <notv> how long was that supported
[08:18] <Daisuke-Laptop> breezy's already EOLed
[08:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> i think it stopped last october
[08:19] <intelikey> notv dapper was the first LTS
[08:19] <notv> i see
[08:19] <holycow> dapper has been an excellent release for us
[08:20] <holycow> from a user perspective
[08:20] <intelikey> ;/
[08:20] <holycow> hopefully the next one will as high quality release too
[08:20] <intelikey> hopefully much higher.
[08:20] <holycow> that too
[08:20] <holycow> we bought canonical support but used it only once
[08:21] <holycow> but we will keep on buying support ... one never knkows
[08:21] <Daisuke-Laptop> holycow: if you're still using dapper, you've completely missed a year and a half of inprovements to the operating system
[08:21] <holycow> *rolls eyes*
[08:21] <holycow> your talking to someone who has 200+ workstations to look after at work
[08:21] <intelikey> *smiles*
[08:21] <holycow> please don't talk to me about what i'm missing
[08:21] <Daisuke-Laptop> a pleasant attitude, that's what you're missing.
[08:21] <notv> what are they used for?
[08:21] <Daisuke-Laptop> but anyhow
[08:22] <holycow> thank you captain obvious
[08:22] <holycow> notv: just regular word processing
[08:22] <Firefishe> Does anyone here use a blackberry 8830 from Verizon and connect with it using kubuntu?
[08:22] <intelikey> didn't know rank was present.
[08:22] <Daisuke-Laptop> things have improved greatly since dapper's release in all areas of the OS.
[08:23] <holycow> you haven't run a corporate network before have you?
[08:23] <intelikey> Daisuke-Laptop how is the console improved ?
[08:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm not telling you to switch everything over
[08:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> intelikey: most aspects.
[08:23] <holycow> your not exactly a) giving me new information considering we have a testing lab
[08:23] <Daisuke-Laptop> you're
[08:24] <holycow> and b) in large deployments stability trumps features
[08:24] <holycow> and of course, also ...
[08:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> yes, dapper is stable
[08:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> but it's not that great of a release
[08:24] <holycow> c) ubuntu releases are faaaaaaaaaaar to quick
[08:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> holycow: that's your opinion
[08:24] <Daisuke-Laptop> if you don't like it, don't use it
[08:24] <killermach> the release announcement for "version Upgrade" says "welcome to 6.10"
[08:24] <intelikey> holycow even in one user boxes  stability trumps new *     imo.
[08:25] <holycow> of far too shitty quality to actually let a sys admin just rely on a dist upgrade
[08:25] <Daisuke-Laptop> !language
[08:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:25] <killermach> what did I do wrong.. I'm running a fresh install of 7.04 CDROM now
[08:25] <intelikey> killermach wasn't you\
[08:25] <Daisuke-Laptop> holycow: if you hate it SOOO much, roll your own distro
[08:25] <holycow> your a fucking idiot
[08:25] <holycow> you don't even read what i write
[08:25] <killermach> I don't want to upgrade to 6.10 from 7.04
[08:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> !language
[08:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> i did read what you wrote
[08:26] <holycow> if you have an opinion i recommend at least making it relavent
[08:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> and you're being belligerent at best.
[08:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> i *never said* you should upgrade everything for the sake of upgrading
[08:26] <Daisuke-Laptop> if you saw that, you're putting words into my mouth, which i do not appreciate
[08:26] <holycow> thats true, your just spouting off random opinions about things of no consequence
[08:27] <intelikey> ok can i call  peace here.    lets burry the hatchet   but not in someone's head.
[08:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm not even going to bother
[08:28] <killermach> intelikey: if I proceed w/ upgrade will I get gutsy or 6.10?
[08:28] <Daisuke-Laptop> windows misses you.
[08:28] <intelikey> killermach i would "hope" that it wouldn't "downgrade" to 6.10   but i can't tell you for sure.
[08:29] <killermach> intelikey: ok.. better left for tomorrow.. thanks
[08:30] <killermach> intelikey: ok.. it was me.. here is the pattern
[08:30] <intelikey> killermach  one could start the process and then    cat /etc/apt/sources.list   and see if it says gutsy or edgy   if edgy   then kill it.   no harm done.
[08:30] <killermach> I open adept, click fetch updates, then version update and it says 6.10
[08:30] <killermach> I close adept reopen and DON'T click fetch updates, just click version update and I get 7.10
[08:31] <osh_> Can someone decipher this for me? Whats the version number of knetworkmanager? http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/kde/knetworkmanager
[08:32] <intelikey> Package: knetworkmanager (1:0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5)
[08:33] <osh_> intelikey: Yeah, what's the version? 1? 0.2? 1-0? 5?
[08:33] <Daisuke-Laptop> 0.2
[08:33] <intelikey> oh Hobbsee and  rob  just joined,   i guess yall will streighten up now...
[08:33] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:34] <rob> boo!
[08:34] <osh_> I'm sure it makes sense to someone but it's just confusing to me.
[08:34] <npurciful> hello
[08:34] <kkathman> nah I never straighten up
[08:34] <osh_> Daisuke-Laptop: Ah. The number after the : is the version then? Is that true for all packages?
[08:35] <intelikey> osh_ i'm assuming that  that is the version.    (1:0.2ubuntu1-0ubuntu5)   but i don't know.    they can use any char in the version string they want
[08:35] <npurciful> man i am stumped, i am trying to make a script to check for mp3 then see if a ogg exists, this cant be that hard but i have spent 4hour trying to figure it out
[08:35] <killermach> gusty upgrade in progress. time to logout
[08:37] <osh_> npurciful: Doesn't seem hard. What are you trying to do?
[08:38] <intelikey> npurciful give a little more info and i'm sure someone can help with it.
[08:38] <osh_> intelikey: The version numbereing is sligthly confusing don't you agree? What's with the 2 ubuntus in there? It probably means something but it isn't obvious for someone who hasn't seen it before.
[08:39] <npurciful> osh_: resurse mp3 directory and check to see if a ogg of the same name exist in same directory
[08:40] <intelikey> osh_ i've seen it lots.  but have no idea why they do that.    basicly the second ubuntu# gets changed with patches   but the main version  with releases
[08:40] <npurciful> then if it exist delete mp3
[08:40] <npurciful> I am converting my mp3 collection to ogg
[08:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> admirable
[08:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> but a bad idea
[08:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> go from source wherever possible
[08:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> (rip to ogg)
[08:42] <npurciful> i did, but some of my collection the orginal are scratch bad and cant
[08:42] <Daisuke-Laptop> because transcoding from mp3 to ogg causes what you'll probably find to be unacceptable sound quality :\
[08:42] <npurciful> yes that is a concern
[08:43] <intelikey> npurciful find /base/dir/ -type f -iname '*.mp3' | while read Q ;do [ -f "`echo "$Q" | sed s/\.mp3/\.ogg/`" ]  && rm "$Q" ;done
[08:43] <intelikey> test it some place safe,  i make no promices.
[08:43] <kkathman> man that looks like greek
[08:43] <kkathman> lol
[08:43] <osh_> intelikey: you beat me to it.
[08:43] <intelikey> no it's   geek
[08:44] <kkathman> well I was trying to be nice
[08:44] <intelikey> osh_ sorry.  next time type faster.
[08:44] <osh_> intelikey: or think faster... :-)
[08:44] <npurciful> thanks
[08:44] <kkathman> or just be quiet and HE looks like the geek :)
[08:44] <intelikey> kkathman actually it's simple shell grammer,   i write lots of shell scripts.
[08:44] <holycow> npurciful: Daisuke-Laptopis correct, if you can try rip from source otherwise your loosing data
[08:45] <kkathman> me no writey the scripty much
[08:45] <kkathman> I prefer higher levels of programming - have done WAY too much assembler and lower in  my life
[08:46] <kkathman> shell reminds me too much of assembler lol
[08:46] <intelikey> i wrote that in one line,  so you don't even need to make a script out of it to test it.     but do interpret "/pase/dir/"
[08:46] <intelikey> base/dir even.
[08:47] <kkathman> gremlins
[08:48] <intelikey> npurciful find /base/dir/ -type f -iname '*.mp3' | while read Q ;do [ -f "`echo "$Q" | sed s/\.mp3/\.ogg/`" ]  && echo "rm \"$Q\"" ;done    <<< by using that you can test what it will do, without it doing anything.
[08:49] <npurciful> script worked
[08:49] <intelikey> of course it worked,    only question is "did it work correctly"    :)))\
[08:50] <npurciful> that is why i have reduntant backups
[08:50] <intelikey> npurciful :)
[08:51] <intelikey> npurciful  also when someone in irc gives a multi-command string  and you are putting it in a script    you can convert each single  ;  into a newline.  thus making the script much more readable.
[08:51] <kkathman> what upgrade provided a broken xorg?
[08:51] <intelikey> npurciful  ; && || &    are all command seperators.
[08:52] <intelikey> they do each function somewhat differently though.  not exactly interchangable
[08:52] <npurciful> i just dont know about this ogg thing though i know there would be loss when converting to ogg
[08:53] <intelikey> no,  doesn't need to be.
[08:53] <npurciful> oh crap all my song that are convert are 1second short
[08:53] <intelikey> ogg can be loss less
[08:53] <intelikey> npurciful eeek.  that's not good.
[08:53] <intelikey> what did you use to convert them ?
[08:53] <npurciful> hum
[08:53] <npurciful> audiokonv
[08:53] <intelikey> mp32ogg
[08:54] <npurciful> okay
[08:54] <intelikey> !find mp32ogg
[08:54] <intelikey> !info vorbis-tools
[08:54] <ubotu> Found: mp32ogg
[08:54] <ubotu> vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-6build1 (feisty), package size 98 kB, installed size 732 kB
[08:54] <intelikey> that's the command and the package you find it in.
[08:55] <npurciful> okay
[08:55] <intelikey> can be used in a script to convert them.   man mp32ogg   has the specifics on how to use.  and the same syntax i gave for finding the files can easily be converted to do the converting.
[08:57] <intelikey> i think i made a script for that one time.  i'll see if i still have it.   something like    convert-mp3.sh base/dir/name     was the simple syntax for it.   and it made .oggs out of all mp3's.
[08:57] <intelikey> hmm not on this box.... checking another.
[08:58] <intelikey> no can't find it.  but if you can't figure it out just give a yell and i'll drop you another line.
[08:59] <intelikey> npurciful and  #bash   is a wonderful place to find help with shell scripts.      when me or stdin are not here.
[09:01] <intelikey> or you could use audacity to convert them.   but that's a little like using a jack hammer to drive a thumb tack
[09:01] <npurciful> okay
[09:03] <npurciful> i will use find w/ exec
[09:03] <kkathman> what would be the command you put in the konq browser to look at all computers on a network??
[09:03] <kkathman> if Im using smb?
[09:03] <intelikey> works but you can't string commands inside of find can you ?     i never got it to work right...
[09:04] <kkathman> I know in ubuntu you can put network:// and its bring sup everything on the network
[09:04] <kkathman> but is there nothing in Konq?
[09:04] <intelikey> kkathman why not in konqueror ?
[09:04] <intelikey> oh.
[09:04] <npurciful> i dont know maybe you cant
[09:04] <stdin> kkathman: smb:/
[09:04] <intelikey> three slashes.
[09:04] <kkathman> doesnt work
[09:05] <kkathman> well smb works but it gives it by share - instead of by box
[09:05] <kkathman> oh wait its doesnt
[09:06] <kkathman> it just does a Locate on smb
[09:06] <danny500> #ubuntu
[09:06] <kkathman> ahhh its smb:///
[09:07] <intelikey> didn't i say that ?
[09:07] <kkathman> but it only brings up the windows networks :( not the other 2 linux boxes I have :(
[09:07] <intelikey> picky picky....
[09:07] <intelikey> :)
[09:07] <kkathman> yeah but it doesnt include the linux boes
[09:07] <kkathman> :(
[09:07] <stdin> smb:/  shows me the workgroups, then the servers, then the shares
[09:07] <stdin> including linux samba servers
[09:07] <kkathman> rught
[09:07] <intelikey> sorry.  you have exhosted my database
[09:08] <kkathman> nope doesnt show the linux ones
[09:08] <kkathman> but nautilus does
[09:08] <kkathman> odd
[09:08] <kkathman> ahhh I see what happend
[09:09] <kkathman> heh
[09:09] <kkathman> funny
[09:09] <presto101> anyone care to chat for a sec about kubuntu and kde
[09:09] <kkathman> I need to change the linux boxes' workgroup :)
[09:09] <intelikey> presto101 general chatter   in  #kubuntu-offtopic     support in here
[09:10] <intelikey> or general chatter in here until stdin gets tired of it.
[09:10] <presto101> im new to linux and ive only really worked a bit with gnome
[09:10] <presto101> oh ok sorry
[09:11] <intelikey> presto101 if it's questions about the system  just ask in here
[09:11] <presto101> shall i leave or stay
[09:11] <intelikey> yes
[09:11] <intelikey> :)
[09:11] <intelikey> stay.  he'll tell you if it's time to move on.
[09:12] <presto101> im familiar with gnome not so much with kde what are kde's strengths
[09:12] <intelikey> right click everything
[09:12] <Daisuke-Laptop> presto101: are you familiar with the image comparing the remote control for men with the remote control for women?
[09:12] <stdin> it's extremely configurable
[09:12] <presto101> ah good analogy daisuke-laptop
[09:13] <intelikey> xsreemly
[09:13] <npurciful> find -iname *.mp3 -exec \mp32ogg --quality=10 --verbose {} \; output ogg is still 1second sort
[09:14] <presto101> i just wanted to explore as i get familiar with linux to find for me the right enviroment
[09:14] <npurciful> hum
[09:14] <intelikey> !codecs | npurciful could it be a missing codec?
[09:14] <ubotu> npurciful could it be a missing codec?: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <stdin> presto101: you can install it along side gnome to try it out
[09:14] <Daisuke-Laptop> presto101: try em all, play around, there's nothing wrong with that at all
[09:14] <presto101> up until now its been mostly mint but i think im wanting something more
[09:15] <npurciful> i got lame and vorb installed
[09:15] <intelikey> presto101 just add the other desktop environments   and test
[09:15] <presto101> how stable is 7.10 beta
[09:15] <intelikey> npurciful does it give any error message ?
[09:15] <stdin> it's beta, that should give a clue to stability
[09:16] <intelikey> presto101 beta
[09:16] <intelikey> at least as stable as water
[09:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> presto101: for most hardware configurations?  more stable than the initial release of a new OS from that other company
[09:16] <npurciful> no just moves on to the next song
[09:16] <stdin> it may never break for you, but then it may
[09:16] <presto101> i was thinking about trying it
[09:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> it's the *most* that poses the problem
[09:17] <presto101> from the screenshots kubuntu looks the nicest out of it mepis and pclos
[09:18] <intelikey> npurciful idk.  without an error message to go on, i can't even venture a guess
[09:18] <presto101> well enough of me asking silly questions im gonna install be back later
[09:19] <intelikey> tre bon chance pinguin
[09:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> well, bedtime(ish)
[09:22] <osh_> How do I modify the path that modprobe looks into? I need it to look in more places for modules...
[09:23] <stdin> more places? modules should only be in /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION
[09:23] <twylight> a cat is gine too
[09:23] <twylight> I failed
[09:23] <twylight> please do not look upon my shameful failure at an internet meme
[09:25] <osh_> Hmm. Modueles that I need loaded are in 2.6.20-15-something and my currently running kernel is 2.6.20-16. The modules work if I load them manually though.
[09:25] <presto101> well im installing 7.10 right now
[09:25] <osh_> Just copy them to the correct place or should I do something more elegant?
[09:25] <_2> ah good timming... on the reset.      i think i will make last rounds now.   and just walk slower.    gooday fellows.
[09:26] <stdin> osh_: you can't load modules from a different kernel version
[09:26] <stdin> osh_: or rather, it's a bad idea
[09:27] <osh_> stdin: it's vmware-modules like vmnet and vmmon. It works loading them but how do you suggest I do?
[09:27] <stdin> osh_: for the server or player?
[09:28] <osh_> stdin: server. Remove the package and reinstall it?
[09:28] <stdin> osh_: the package "vmware-server-kernel-modules" should make sure the version for your kernel are installed
[09:30] <osh_> stdin: vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 2.6.20.5-15.20                         vmware-server modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.20)
[09:31] <osh_> stdin: That's the one I have installed. But I use teh 2.6.20-16 kernel.
[09:31] <osh_> s/teh/the/g
[09:32] <stdin> !info vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 | osh_
[09:32] <ubotu> osh_: vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16: vmware-server modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.20). In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2709 kB, installed size 7096 kB
[09:33] <osh_> stdin: Huh? Shouldn't I get that as an update since I have a version of them installed already?
[09:34] <stdin> osh_: only if you have "vmware-server-kernel-modules" installed (not the same as "vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15")
[09:35] <osh_> stdin: This one? vmware-server-kernel-modules           2.6.20.15.14                           vmware-server kernel module dependency package
[09:36] <stdin> osh_: make sure you have the security/multiverse repository enabled
[09:39] <npurciful> okay, i guess i am going to lave my mp3 collection mp3, and intelikey thanks for the script i used it to delete the convert files instead of the other way around :)
[09:41] <kkathman> when something is beta - I think people need to realize that you SHOULD NOT install it unless you want to help the ubuntu peeps debug things, otherwise LEAVE IT ALONE :) hehe
[09:41] <npurciful> this one second deal can only be from converting mp3 > wave > vorbis
[09:41] <kkathman> I just saw 2 more people asking about the "beta" gutsy :)
[09:48] <bentob0x> k while we're on the subject with the modules, how can I add some more modules?
[09:48] <stdin> compile and install them
[09:48] <bentob0x> is there no way to add them dynamically?
[09:48] <stdin> they can be loaded and unloaded dynamically
[09:49] <stdin> but you can't just drop a module in and say "use it"
[09:49] <bentob0x> ok have a quick look here if you don't mind stdin: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/netsetup.html#linux_host_setup
[09:49] <bentob0x> I'm a bit stuck there, not knowing the internals of the linux kernel
[09:49] <bentob0x> (yet)
[09:49] <bentob0x> :)
[09:50] <stdin> bentob0x: don't worry about that. I know (because I've used pearpc) it "just works" :)
[09:50] <bentob0x> ahaa
[09:50] <bentob0x> I tried it but it doesn't seem to want to enable networking
[09:50] <osh_> stdin: security/multiverse. Will have a look for it.
[09:51] <stdin> bentob0x: you have to run pearpc as root (sudo ppc configfile)
[09:51] <bentob0x> k going to try now
[09:52] <osh_> stdin: Should the security-repository also contain the "multiverse" word?
[09:52] <stdin> osh_: should be a line like "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security multiverse"  (or just add multiverse to the end of a like like that)
[09:53] <stdin> and make sure restricted is in there too
[09:54] <osh_> stdin: Did that. Got some new packages to install now it seems. Thanks for the tip.
[09:56] <osh_> And there's the kernel modules too. Thanks a bunch.
[09:56] <stdin> :)
[09:59] <ksivaji> is it possible to edit a pdf file
[10:00] <osh_> ksivaji: Depends. But generally yes.
[10:00] <ksivaji> osh_ how is there any tool for that
[10:01] <ksivaji> pdf is a read only text file or its a image file
[10:01] <osh_> http://www.linux.com/articles/113907
[10:01] <osh_> ksivaji: http://www.linux.com/articles/113907
[10:01] <ksivaji> osh_  ok
[10:02] <osh_> ksivaji: But some pdfs are write-protected and other odd things. So it might not work all the time.
[10:03] <osh_> ksivaji: Also, Adobe has a pdf-editor in their commercial app. (Not just the reader). Don't know the name? Acrobat?
[10:04] <ksivaji> osh_  i am kubunt how can i use acrobat
[10:05] <stdin> you can download acrobat reader, but it's not in the repos
[10:06] <ksivaji> ho
[10:06] <stdin> from adobe
[10:30] <tommy> scusate, c' qualcuno a cui possa chiedere una cosa?
[10:33] <zenum> hey, i just download the gusy beta and upon booting up on a toshiba laptop i got ridiculously huge fonts... is there a way to change the dpi in the live cd before fully booting up?
[10:33] <Jucato> !it | tommy
[10:33] <ubotu> tommy: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:34] <tommy> ok thanks
[10:35] <zenum> i've seen on forums and bug reports that similar things have been happening in gnome.. but i havn't found any occurences in kde...
[10:49] <elitrou> i'm trying to install nokia pc suite and get an error message msi.dll missing. how do i fix it?
[10:51] <elitrou> anyone here?
[10:51] <Mr_Sonoma> i havent ever used the site nor do i know where in your wine system to put the .dll but looks like you can download it from here: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msi
[10:51] <elitrou> once downloaded, where should i save it?
[10:51] <Mr_Sonoma> found that on a quick google search for msi.dll
[10:52] <Mr_Sonoma> again i dont use wine so i dont know.
[10:52] <elitrou> thanks anyhow :)
[10:52] <Mr_Sonoma> sorry i couldnt be more help, if you look at wine.hq i think it is (the wine website) you may fine a wiki on that issue
[10:52] <Mr_Sonoma> !wine
[10:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:53] <Mr_Sonoma> or use the like ubotu just gave
[10:53] <Mr_Sonoma> link even
[10:56] <elitrou> thanks guys, sorry for a newbie questions - i am a newbie :)
[10:56] <Mr_Sonoma> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/57825-install-dlls-wine.html turned up after a google search for .dll in wine looks like it might have the info you need
[10:56] <Mr_Sonoma> remember google.com is your friend =)
[10:59] <arun> FUCK
[11:01] <twylight> MYTHBUSTERS
[11:07] <elitrou> I have a strange problem - java is not recognized as a valid command in the konsole, despite the fact that sun's JRe is installed. any ideas?
[11:10] <shar9313> join #winehq
[11:12] <twylight> what the fuck was that
[11:12] <twylight> on a similar note, elitrou, I cannot run runescape in any browser under kubuntu
[11:12] <emilsedgh_> !mouth
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mouth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Mr_Sonoma> !language
[11:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:13] <twylight> k
[11:13] <Mr_Sonoma> that the one you were looking for emilsedgh_ ?
[11:13] <emilsedgh_> yes Mr_Sonoma :), thanks :)
[11:13] <Mr_Sonoma> =)
[11:13] <bmarks> hi new to irc, how do i register a nic?
[11:13] <pag> !register | bmarks
[11:13] <ubotu> bmarks: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:14] <Mr_Sonoma> bmarks type /nickserv help
[11:14] <twylight>  /msg nickserv help register
[11:14] <bmarks> thanks\
[11:17] <twylight> I need food
[11:18] <adlisyakir> hye
[11:18] <lars_> Hallo
[11:18] <adlisyakir> i had done installation of kubuntu 6.06 for my laptop
[11:18] <twylight> ok
[11:18] <adlisyakir> so, i want to connect the internet with using wireless that are built-in in my laptop
[11:18] <lars_> i don`t speak english
[11:19] <adlisyakir> so, it detected the cavorage of wireless
[11:19] <pag> !de | lars_
[11:19] <ubotu> lars_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:19] <twylight> is knetworkmanager installed?
[11:19] <twylight> it should be
[11:19] <adlisyakir> but.. went i want click and connected.. it fail
[11:20] <adlisyakir> even i put the security password from wireless courage
[11:20] <adlisyakir> why? who know to overcome this problem
[11:20] <twylight> what kind of encryption does your network use?
[11:23] <adlisyakir> encryption?? what do u mean? the model of wireless or whaT/
[11:23] <adlisyakir> ?
[11:23] <adlisyakir> i'm using wireless that are built-in in my laptop
[11:23] <twylight> your network
[11:24] <twylight> might be encrypted with AES, WPA, WEP
[11:24] <adlisyakir> WEP
[11:24] <alexandre> #ubuntu-fr
[11:24] <adlisyakir> WEP with a password..
[11:24] <twylight> ASCII password
[11:25] <adlisyakir> so, i'm just set automatic, and put the WEP security with click at ASCII
[11:25] <adlisyakir> but it still not connect.. i say conection failed..
[11:31] <twylight> maybe he didn't want help
[11:33] <Mr_Sonoma> dunno
[11:35] <Mr_Sonoma> well maybe i should take a min and ask for some help with my ATI nightmare on my 2nd computer =) the screen doesnt fit the monitor......windows show bigger than the actual CRT screen
[11:35] <Mr_Sonoma> restricted modules and uh...i forget the other is installed from the repo
[11:43] <ardchoille> Compiling an app, I get this "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"  How do I solve this error?
[11:44] <pag> !xincludes | ardchoille
[11:44] <ubotu> ardchoille: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[11:44] <ardchoille> pag: Ah, figured as much, thank you
[11:45] <pag> np :)
[11:58] <dhq> Jucato: hey
[11:59] <dhq> Jucato: well about the desktop search it takes memory as it indexes all the files
[11:59] <Jucato> dhq: yes?
[11:59] <dhq> Jucato: so it takes 100% memory
[12:00] <Jucato> yes?
[12:14] <Maxey2> hello
[12:14] <Maxey2> i'm new to linux and i would like to know how do i change folder permissions to my user?
[12:15] <pag> Maxey2, what are you trying to achieve?
[12:15] <Maxey2> i want to copy some files to a folder in the usr folder
[12:16] <Maxey2> but it won't let me
[12:16] <ardchoille> Maxey2: If it's a folder outside your $HOME, then it's a bad idea to change perms on it
[12:16] <pag> Maxey2, why do you need to copy there?
[12:16] <Maxey2> but i really need to copy these files there
[12:16] <Maxey2> to install flash
[12:16] <ardchoille> Maxey2: Use sudo to copy
[12:16] <ardchoille> !sudo | Maxey2
[12:16] <ubotu> Maxey2: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:16] <ardchoille> !flash | Maxey2
[12:16] <ubotu> Maxey2: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:16] <Maxey2> i tried, but when i'm on roo, i can't even navigate through irectories
[12:17] <Maxey2> yeah, bnut i'm using ubuntu64
[12:17] <stdin> !flash64 | Maxey2
[12:17] <ubotu> Maxey2: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[12:17] <ardchoille> Maxey2: flash on 64 bit is very tricky
[12:17] <Maxey2> i noticed
[12:18] <Maxey2> and i only used linux for the first time yesterday
[12:18] <ardchoille> Maxey2: You need to learn about sudo
[12:18] <Maxey2> i have a rough idea
[12:19] <Maxey2> well, top be honest i know what it does, but not how to use it
[12:19] <stdin> read the link from ubotu
[12:19] <Maxey2> i have the wrapper installed
[12:19] <Maxey2> i just can't copy the files
[12:20] <ardchoille> Maxey2: If you read that sudo tutorial, you'll know how
[12:20] <Maxey2> ok thanks
[12:20] <stdin> that nspluginwrapper can be buggy and eats CPU (so I've been told)
[12:20] <ardchoille> I wouldn't even bother with the 64bit release right now.
[12:21] <Maxey2> man, i don't want to switch to vista just to watch some homestarrunner
[12:21] <Maxey2> :p
[12:22] <stdin> you know you can run a 32bit install on 64bit hardware?
[12:23] <Maxey2> i know
[12:23] <Maxey2> they gave me this cd
[12:23] <Maxey2> but from what i see, i rather just get a 32bit version
[12:24] <Maxey2> anyway, i'm loving ubuntu and linux in general
[12:24] <Maxey2> only if this supported direct-x...
[12:24] <Maxey2> i would just ditch windows
[12:24] <stdin> can't support directX, it's a MS product
[12:25] <Maxey2> yeah
[12:25] <stdin> (and they obviously won't let us use it)
[12:25] <twylight> so clone it
[12:25] <Maxey2> i heard there's some basic wrappers, but they're far from perfect
[12:25] <stdin> twylight: why?
[12:25] <stdin> we have OpenGL
[12:25] <twylight> we should start a project to provide directx functionality on linux
[12:25] <stdin> that's on windows two
[12:25] <twylight> it'd open up more options
[12:26] <stdin> tell developers to support it
[12:26] <Maxey2> ms would lose way too much money open-source direct-x
[12:26] <stdin> in face OpenGL runs on windows, linuz, Mac, BSD, etc
[12:26] <stdin> *linux
[12:28] <Maxey2> does ubuntu have an image burner?
[12:28] <stdin> several
[12:28] <Maxey2> kewl
[12:28] <stdin> K3B is one of the best (and pre-installed in kubuntu)
[12:28] <Maxey2> downloading ubuntu 32bits
[12:28] <Maxey2> at almost 1Mb
[12:29] <Maxey2> would be rad if i could downgrade it while keeping my stuff
[12:29] <Maxey2> :p
[12:30] <stdin> that's why having a separate /home partition is nice
[12:33] <Maxey2> irc in my country is just dead
[12:33] <Maxey2> i used to be there on its peak
[12:34] <ardchoille> Just noticed that the Command textbox in kmenuedit has tab completion. Nice :)
[12:34] <Maxey2> hey is there a way to put fonts like they were on windows
[12:34] <Maxey2> i don't dig ubuntu fonts much
[12:35] <stdin> !fonts
[12:35] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:35] <stdin> ugg, forget that link, it's "gnomified"
[12:36] <Maxey2> what does that mean?
[12:36] <stdin> System Settings > Appearance > Fonts  to configure fonts
[12:36] <Maxey2> that i know
[12:37] <Maxey2> but i don't like the fonts a lot
[12:37] <stdin> "gnomified" is the word I use to describe a page with gnome-only instructions
[12:37] <stdin> until I "kdeifiy" the page
[12:38] <ardchoille> stdin: There are several which could use "kdeifying"
[12:38] <stdin> Maxey2: there are tons of fonts, open Adept and search for "font"
[12:38] <stdin> ardchoille: yeah, I usually trawl the wiki/help pages and do it. takes forever tho
[12:39] <Jucato> s/several/lots/
[12:39] <stdin> s/lots/just about all/
[12:39] <Jucato> s/just about all/(just about all still means lots)/
[12:40] <stdin> s/(just about all still means lots)/(just about all still means "lots")/
[12:41] <Jucato> :D
[12:41] <Maxey2> linux talk?
[12:41] <ardchoille> yes
[12:41] <stdin> sed talk
[12:41] <Maxey2> k
[12:41] <stdin> s/thing to replace/what to replace with/
[12:41] <ardchoille> s/old text/new text/
[12:41] <Maxey2> haha, i see
[12:41] <Maxey2> clever
[12:42] <ardchoille> Maxey2: When you learn to use the sed editor, you'll be using that
[12:42] <Maxey2> what's it for?
[12:42] <ardchoille> editing text in files
[12:43] <stdin> if you have a text file that you want to replace all instances of a word/phrase with another word/phrase you use "sed 's/phrase 1/phrase 2/' file.txt" for example
[12:43] <Maxey2> like, i could translate an app with that?
[12:43] <stdin> there are better ways to translate, but you could
[12:44] <Maxey2> ffs, adept needs root access
[12:44] <stdin> well, yeah, it does
[12:44] <Maxey2> what do i have to do?
[12:44] <Maxey2> just su root?
[12:44] <stdin> no
[12:44] <pag> Maxey2, kdesu adept_manager
[12:45] <Maxey2> in terminal?
[12:45] <stdin> when you start adept from the menu it asks for your password
[12:45] <Maxey2> it didn't
[12:45] <pag> Maxey2, yup. or in Run Command (alt+f2)
[12:45] <ardchoille> Maxey2: When you need to launch a gui app from the terminal, you need to use kdesu: kdesu app_name
[12:45] <Maxey2> alright
[12:46] <ardchoille> stdin: If you have apt-get running in a term and try to launch adept from the menu, do you get a popup warning telling you why adept won't be launched?
[12:46] <Mr_Sonoma> you click on adept from a default install it should ask for your password...the link in the kmenu should already be set to run as root.
[12:49] <Maxey2> now it asked for pass
[12:49] <Maxey2> had to install kdesu
[12:49] <ardchoille> Mr_Sonoma: if you run adept_manager from a term (non-root) you get a warning that you won't be able to use it for much.
[12:49] <stdin> ardchoille: I get this http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5494/test7wr5.jpg
[12:49] <ardchoille> Maxey2: You on Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu?
[12:49] <Maxey2> Ubuntu 7.04
[12:50] <ardchoille> stdin: Oh, ok, that's good.
[12:50] <ardchoille> Maxey2: Maybe you should be in #ubuntu
[12:50] <Mr_Sonoma> ardchoille, yes i understand but if your using a gui app then why not click the gui link in the K menu to begin with?
[12:50] <Maxey2> oh, you've been of help anyway
[12:50] <ardchoille> Mr_Sonoma: He is on Ubuntu, he doesn't have kdesu
[12:50] <King_anarky> hey guys
[12:51] <King_anarky> can i get some help mounting a ntfs drive, second hd for file storage
[12:51] <_Ahti> King_anarky, run fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:51] <_Ahti> see which partition it is
[12:51] <King_anarky> its a completely different drive
[12:51] <Mr_Sonoma> ardchoille, then i have missed something in the convo because now im wondering why use Adept instead of Synapic if using Gnome
[12:51] <_Ahti> ah, which?
[12:52] <King_anarky> second 1.3gb media
[12:52] <_Ahti> k
[12:52] <_Ahti> hmm
[12:52] <King_anarky> says it has no Dev= entry
[12:52] <_Ahti> soz, i've been using *BSD a lot lately, just trying to remember how it all goes on Linux
[12:52] <ardchoille> Mr_Sonoma: That is because we assumed you were on Kubuntu.. since you came into this channel. That is why I usggested that you join #ubuntu
[12:52] <ardchoille> s/you/he/
[12:53] <_Ahti> hd0a would be hda1 in linux... right?
[12:53] <Mr_Sonoma> ardchoille, got ya
[12:53] <King_anarky> yeh
[12:53] <_Ahti> no
[12:53] <King_anarky> its hdd1 for the drive in question
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[12:53] <_Ahti> yeah
[12:53] <King_anarky> hd ide sec slave (D)
[12:53] <_Ahti> say you have a folder called NTFS in your /media or /mnt
[12:53] <King_anarky> dolphin can SEE it but wont let me mount it
[12:53] <King_anarky> ok should i see?
[12:53] <_Ahti> "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdd1 /mnt/NTFS"
[12:54] <Maxey2> i only need to directly open the iso file with the cd creator and burn it?
[12:54] <Mr_Sonoma> Maxey2, yes
[12:54] <Maxey2> ok
[12:54] <ardchoille> Maxey2: burn is as an image, not as data
[12:54] <_Ahti> King_anarky: i think if you want it to be writable you'll need to do "sudo mount -t ntfs -o rw /dev/hdd1 /mnt/NTFS"
[12:55] <Maxey2> yeah, it's burning as image
[12:55] <King_anarky> ok
[12:55] <_Ahti> That should do it :)
[12:55] <ardchoille> Maxey2: Are you burning ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:55] <Maxey2> ubuntu
[12:55] <King_anarky> hrm
[12:55] <Maxey2> but is kubuntu better?
[12:55] <ardchoille> Maxey2: You really are better off in #ubuntu because they can give you help specific to Ubuntu
[12:55] <King_anarky> doesnt exist, perhaps because i could not create the folder at /mnt/ntfs/
[12:55] <King_anarky> h/o
[12:56] <ardchoille> Maxey2: I feel kubuntu is better, yes
[12:56] <Maxey2> what is the difference?
[12:56] <ardchoille> Maxey2: All depends on whether you prefer the kde desktop or the gnome desktop
[12:56] <King_anarky> i like kubuntu better also
[12:56] <King_anarky> less problems on my end
[12:56] <King_anarky> however
[12:56] <King_anarky> kinsole command for make dir
[12:56] <_Ahti> King_anarky: yeah you need to run "mkdir /mnt/ntfs" -.-
[12:56] <King_anarky> ty
[12:56] <Maxey2> what the hell, i'll just kubuntu also
[12:56] <Maxey2> *get
[12:57] <ardchoille> hehe
[12:57] <Maxey2> !kubuntu
[12:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:57] <King_anarky> >   <i get that?
[12:57] <_Ahti> Maxey2, there's a meta-package found in synaptics
[12:57] <ardchoille> Maxey2: Get the Desktop cd for both and try them both.
[12:57] <_Ahti> Maxey2, Kubuntu is installable from the ubuntu repos
[12:57] <Maxey2> is the beta stable?
[12:58] <_Ahti> i think if you ran "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" you SHOULD end up with Kubuntu equivalent 0.0
[12:58] <_Ahti> @ Maxey2
[12:58] <King_anarky> ok i got ntfs folder made
[12:59] <Maxey2> it'll just switch gnome to kde or do i need to make another insatllation?
[12:59] <King_anarky> hrm so far so good..
[12:59] <King_anarky> brb
[12:59] <King_anarky> ok it mounted something
[01:00] <King_anarky> "Could not enter /mnt/ntfs
[01:01] <_Ahti> could not enter? did you run "mkdir /mnt/ntfs"?
[01:01] <King_anarky> the dir is made yes
[01:01] <_Ahti> ok
[01:02] <_Ahti> so did you try cd into /mnt/ntfs?
[01:02] <King_anarky> that worked in konsole
[01:02] <_Ahti> right
[01:02] <King_anarky> now i need to do it in KDE
[01:03] <Maxey2> what is the best way to get kubuntu?
[01:03] <_Ahti> If you're lazy, just download the .iso
[01:03] <Maxey2> ok
[01:03] <_Ahti> If you're willing to try, run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:03] <King_anarky> i got the iso :D
[01:04] <_Ahti> and it'll download every package for it
[01:04] <Maxey2> it'll just switch desktops?
[01:04] <King_anarky> cuz i was using windows
[01:04] <_Ahti> iso's better if you just wanna try kubuntu
[01:04] <King_anarky> i actually think ill stay right here on KDe
[01:05] <Fl3gma> tak to mi ho vyndej Ivane....
[01:05] <Fl3gma> :D
[01:05] <Fl3gma> pet minut stresu..
[01:05] <_Ahti> !english
[01:05] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:05] <King_anarky> mount point must be below /media
[01:05] <_Ahti> I don't speak my many languages... respect the community -.-
[01:05] <_Ahti> then mount it to
[01:06] <_Ahti> to /media
[01:06] <King_anarky> already mounted or busy
[01:06] <King_anarky> apparently it worked yet i cant do anything even see it as root
[01:07] <King_anarky> i can dir in konsole
[01:07] <King_anarky> and after all that the file i want isnt on it
[01:07] <King_anarky> lol
[01:08] <_Ahti> lol
[01:08] <sbucatino> hi i have gutsy when i install it the sound and microfone is so nice when i upgrade microfone are not so nice (alsamixer maxmized)
[01:08] <Maxey2> i hope k3b doesn't also screw my disk
[01:11] <wiki> hello
[01:11] <Maxey2> hi
[01:11] <wiki_> netaji
[01:12] <adlisyakir> how to install wireless dirver in my laptop using kubuntu 6.06
[01:12] <wiki_> hi
[01:12] <King_anarky> get 7.04 :D
[01:13] <King_anarky> well thx for the help _ahti
[01:13] <Maxey2> ok i'm out to install ubuntu 32
[01:13] <King_anarky> ciao
[01:13] <Maxey2> later
[01:17] <adlisyakir> hye 7.04 can install in Pentium M or not?
[01:18] <zorglu_> q. i would like to create a .zip file from the command line? which tool can do it ?
[01:19] <pag> zorglu_, " zip directory " ?
[01:20] <zorglu_> pag: seems good, thanks :)
[01:20] <pag> zorglu_, actually, not quite, but that's the tool - read man-pages for instructions
[01:20] <zorglu_> pag: that i can do, i only wanted to know the name of the tool :)
[01:21] <_Ahti> ls /var/cache/apt/packages
[01:21] <_Ahti> ...
[01:21] <_Ahti> sigh
[01:21] <pag> zorglu_, ok :)
[01:21] <_Ahti> wrong window -.-
[01:26] <la> oioioi
[01:27] <cacrus> Hi , i m using kubuntu Feisty , my Keyboard has suddenly stopped working in kubuntu , it works with other users ,
[01:27] <cacrus> can anyone help ?
[01:32] <DiThi> hi
[01:32] <DiThi> anyone using gutsy?
[01:33] <_Ahti> DiThi, /join #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Kubuntu> How do I start gconftool --recursive-unset?
[01:34] <Kubuntu> How do I start Thin Client Manager?
[01:34] <Kubuntu> #edubuntu
[01:38] <chook> plantange Xorg :( ecran noir total !!
[01:44] <jamison_> any python scripters here
[01:44] <WorkRoey> what's up?
[01:45] <adlisyakir> hye
[01:45] <adlisyakir> help me
[01:45] <adlisyakir> otaimerz@kubuntu:~$ iwconfig
[01:45] <jamison_> how do you add to your paths
[01:45] <adlisyakir> lo        no wireless extensions.
[01:45] <adlisyakir> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:45] <adlisyakir> eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:""  Nickname:"HERMES I"
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: None
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Sensitivity:1/3
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Power Management:off
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Link Quality=0/92  Signal level=134/153  Noise level=134/153
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:45] <adlisyakir>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:45] <adlisyakir> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[01:45] <adlisyakir> i cannot connect to the wireless internet
[01:45] <adlisyakir> why
[01:45] <adlisyakir> why?
[01:46] <Developing> check your passkey
[01:46] <adlisyakir> passkey for what?
[01:46] <Developing> for the AP connection
[01:46] <ardchoille> !paste | adlisyakir
[01:46] <ubotu> adlisyakir: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <Developing> about kubuntu 7.10Beta: There's a bug in kmyfirewall
[01:47] <adlisyakir> i'm using 6.06
[01:47] <_Ahti> ardchoille: You can't connect to the internet? You think that paste helped..?
[01:48] <_Ahti> ardchoille: Does it use WPA/TKIP enc?
[01:48] <adlisyakir> so i'm not understand about linux.. i'm new user.
[01:49] <_Ahti> Yeah i can see... back to my previous question?
[01:49] <ardchoille> Developing: Perhaps you should make that bug known in #ubuntu+1 or file a bug report.
[01:49] <Developing> thank you ardchoille :)
[01:49] <_Ahti> Oops, i've talked to the wron person -.-
[01:49] <jamison_> is there any python channels on here?
[01:49] <_Ahti> lol, soz
[01:50] <ardchoille> _Ahti: :)
[01:50] <_Ahti> adlisyakir: Does it use WPA enc?
[01:50] <adlisyakir> it using WEP
[01:51] <_Ahti> wep, ok
[01:52] <adlisyakir> so, how to solve this problem..
[01:52] <adlisyakir> i want to connect the wireless internet using my laptop dell 400
[01:52] <Developing> I can go out ... see you later Guy :) Byez
[01:52] <_Ahti> yeah yeah, just wait
[01:53] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 mode managed
[01:53] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 key open
[01:53] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 key off
[01:53] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 essid "AP's SSID"
[01:53] <_Ahti> just replace ra0 with eth1
[01:54] <_Ahti> then run dhclient eth1
[01:55] <adlisyakir> ok.. then.. u think it will help?
[01:56] <_Ahti> yes
[01:56] <_Ahti> ...no wait
[01:56] <adlisyakir> _Ahti, see this : http://www.geocities.com/bangiwebnet/snapshot1.jpg , http://www.geocities.com/bangiwebnet/snapshot2.jpg , http://www.geocities.com/bangiwebnet/snapshot3.jpg  even it show like that, it still connection fail like i say before when iwconfig
[01:56] <_Ahti> sorry
[01:57] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 mode managed
[01:57] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 key restricted
[01:57] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 key [1]  "s:AP's wep key"
[01:57] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 key [1] 
[01:57] <_Ahti> iwconfig ra0 essid "AP's SSID"
[01:57] <_Ahti> THAT's what you do -.-
[01:57] <_Ahti> yet again, replace ra0 with eth1 and make it go with your setup
[01:58] <adlisyakir> ok.. i will try..
[01:59] <adlisyakir> want to change my os which i must restart windows first. ok
[02:21] <stas_> hi
[02:22] <sonoftheclayr> hi
[02:22] <stas_> you hear my
[02:22] <stas_> that is ql
[02:22] <stas_> do you have msn
[02:33] <svintung> hello, im having a problem connecting the internet with KDE(konqueror,kopete,ktorrent,etc), it works perfect with other non-kde applications like firefox, amsn and so on.. anyone know what can be wrong?
[02:34] <pag> svintung, does ping www.google.com  work?
[02:35] <svintung> yep, im online, talking with you right now :)
[02:36] <pag> svintung, ok... the problem is probably due knetworkmanager - try turning it off (right click -> quit) and see, if Konq. starts to work
[02:39] <didoman> hi all
[02:39] <svintung> pag: it worked!
[02:39] <svintung> thanks alot
[02:39] <pag> svintung, np :)
[02:40] <didoman> queldu'un peut me dire comment installer le driver de ma carte graphique Nvidia ?
[02:40] <Chousuke> !fr
[02:40] <GuHHH> is there any way to translate chm files?
[02:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:41] <didoman> ok thanks
[02:44] <Lacrymology> what's a good app to synchronize my sysclock?
[02:44] <Lacrymology> it's way off
[02:44] <DiThi> Lacrymology: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[02:44] <Lacrymology> I think it does it at startup, but the modem was off, and it didin't an' I dont want to restart
[02:44] <Lacrymology> thanks
[02:51] <genii> Jucato: :)
[02:51] <kkathman> actually I need sleep more :(
[02:52] <genii> kkathman: Yeah me too, but not much choice, work starts at a certain hour ...bleh
[02:52] <kkathman> lol
[02:53] <kkathman> I just sleep in my chair at my desk
[02:53] <kkathman> lol
[02:53] <kkathman> with any luck no one will come in
[02:53] <genii> Mine is not comfortable enough for that
[02:53] <stdin_> I truely hate windows
[02:54] <kkathman> stdin:  I dont hate it, but its certainly frustrating at times
[02:54] <genii> stdin_: I hate even more the devices which rely on the insodes of Windows to drive them like winmodems and host-dependant printers etc
[02:54] <genii> *insides
[02:54] <kkathman> there are still winmodems ?
[02:54] <kkathman> gee I thought those went away years ago
[02:55] <stdin_> this is on my mothers laptop, I've tried direct connection, samba share and IPP. now I'm trying a PostScript driver
[02:55] <kkathman> they werent a good idea back then either
[02:55] <genii> kkathman: Almost all Conexants, then you have PCTel, SmartLink, etc etc
[02:55] <kkathman> ugh
[02:56] <kkathman> unfortunately, I dont see the end of windows any time soon
[02:57] <genii> stdin_: So you can acess it from an external Kubuntu box?
[02:57] <genii> kkathman: Me either
[02:58] <kkathman> But to be honest, I'd really just like to see a coexistent world - where peropherl devices were much less OS despendent and the same for web standards compliancy
[03:00] <Buztocdr> Good Day. I have a question - is it a right way to upgrade kubuntu with feisty replacing to gutsy @ sources.list?
[03:00] <stdin_> genii: I can access it from this PC (Kubuntu) which it's connected to, I can access it from my laptop (Kubuntu) with IPP, I can access it from a VM (XP) with samba. But Vista... BAH!
[03:01] <genii> stdin_: Did you install in windows the "Unix Printing Services" ?
[03:02] <ubuntu_> hugh _
[03:02] <stdin_> genii: vista doesn't have that service (in the network setup), but the equivelent "Internet Printing" option is on
[03:02] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:02] <stdin_> looks like the postscript driver works tho, test page printed :)
[03:03] <stdin_> had to get it from adobe and install in XP compatibility mode, but it got it
[03:03] <genii> stdin_: Bah they changed it again then (Unix Printing Services). ...lag...Postscript driver is usually pretty safe
[03:04] <genii> Buztocdr: Since Edgy there is the upgrade-manager
[03:05] <Buztocdr> genii: Do u mean adept updater?
[03:06] <genii> Buztocdr: No
[03:07] <genii> I'll find a link
[03:08] <genii> Buztocdr: The upgrade page of Edgy to Feisty has the info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades process from Feisty to Gutsy will be similar
[03:08] <Buztocdr> genii: Thank You for attention.
[03:17] <genii> stdin_: I generally use network printers now
[03:20] <stdin_> genii: this is on my home net, it's a Lexmark X1180
[03:23] <genii> stdin_: I had pretty good experience with Lexmark. Usually pretty durable construction etc and drivers available. Tho mainly for printers i am an HP fanboy LOL. I own 5 HP laserjet 4 series printers and 1 series 5 colour one
[03:24] <stdin_> well, before this lexmark I had a "dell", that was fun to setup :p
[03:25] <thomas_> hi
[03:25] <RurouniJones> Is there a handy batch renaming program included with Kubuntu?
[03:26] <Jucato> RurouniJones: not installed by default. you can install krename
[03:26] <RurouniJones> Chears
[03:26] <RurouniJones> I was half expecting some smartarse to suggest a tortuous series of shell commands :)
[03:27] <LjL> meh, tortuous series
[03:27] <LjL> there is a "rename" command.
[03:27] <thomas_> I'm looking for an application that can somewhat correcly calculate the remaining time my battery has before it's empty? Powermanager doesn't seem do do this even remotly correct, so I was wondering if anyone had a better alternative?
[03:30] <thomas_> anybody?
[03:31] <alexbobp> I've been having problems with the display settings in Ubuntu.  When I enable administrator mode, and then change settings in the "multiple monitors" section, the "apply" button stays grayed out.
[03:31] <alexbobp> Does anybody else have this, or know how to fix it?
[03:32] <thomas_> alexbobp: try running it with sudo from console
[03:32] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:32] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:32] <Jucato> thomas_: try kpowersave.
[03:32] <thomas_> Jucato: okay, thanx anyway ;-)
[03:33] <alexbobp> Okay, I'm trying sudo systemsettings
[03:33] <poison--> mornin guys
[03:33] <Jucato> thomas_: klaptopdaemon
[03:33] <Jucato> alexbobp: kdesu systemsettings
[03:33] <Jucato> alexbobp: or to be more exact, kdesu displayconfig
[03:33] <alexbobp> how would sudo muck up config files?
[03:33] <Jucato> hi poison--
[03:33] <deadangel> hello , i need help plz
[03:33] <poison--> JUcato :D
[03:33] <poison--> !ask
[03:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:33] <SweetMadness> oki oki
[03:34] <alexbobp> As expected it doesn't prompt me for administrator mode, but the apply button is still disabled.
[03:34] <alexbobp> Can somebody else do that and set dual-screen and see if your apply button is enabled?
[03:35] <SweetMadness> i've downloaded the KUbuntu 7.04 on my HP Pavilion DV6000 , the Video card which is NVidia GeForce Go 7400 seems to be not recognized
[03:35] <Jucato> !dualhead
[03:35] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:35] <SweetMadness> how can i make it be installed ?
[03:35] <Jucato> !nvidia | SweetMadness
[03:35] <ubotu> SweetMadness: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <SweetMadness> thank u , i'll try it and come back.
[03:44] <sakura-Chan> Salut^^
[03:45] <stdin> !fr
[03:45] <SweetMadness> i've downloaded the KUbuntu 7.04 on my HP Pavilion DV6000 , the Video card which is NVidia GeForce Go 7400 seems to be not recognized knowin i am using the 64bit ver
[03:45] <stdin> sakura-Chan: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:45] <sakura-Chan> thx
[03:46] <sakura-Chan> #kubuntu-FR
[03:46] <sakura-Chan> ?
[03:46] <Lynoure> SweetMadness: you'll probably need the closed drivers for it, then
[03:46] <stdin> sakura-Chan: /join #kubuntu-fe
[03:46] <stdin> sakura-Chan: /join #kubuntu-fr <
[03:47] <SweetMadness> i am tryin to install the restricted driver extras but it keeps givin me error when it starts the installation
[03:47] <alexbobp> what's the error?
[03:48] <thomas_> Jucato: Kpowersave seems to be the best one imo ;-)
[03:48] <SweetMadness>  " There was an error committing changes , Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages . "
[03:48] <jamison_> are there any good python help channels?
[03:49] <genii> jamison_: #python ?
[03:51] <SweetMadness> alexbobp
[03:51] <GuHHH> does someone knows a bittorrent client that let me choose files (inside a torrent) that i want to download, instead of all the files in the torrent?
[03:52] <stdin> KTorrent
[03:52] <alexbobp> GuHHH: I don't know of a bittorrent client that doesn't let you choose that
[03:52] <GuHHH> gnome bittorrent seems to dont
[03:52] <alexbobp> odd
[03:54] <SweetMadness> i've downloaded the KUbuntu 7.04 on my HP Pavilion DV6000 , the Video card which is NVidia GeForce Go 7400 seems to be not recognized knowin i am using the 64bit ver
[04:01] <BluesKaj> 'morning all :)
[04:01] <Jucato> mornin'
[04:02] <BluesKaj> hey Jucato ..seems quiet
[04:02] <dyscalcolon> wich (mysql) databasemanagementsystem you can recommend?
[04:04] <Jucato> very
[04:07] <BluesKaj> brb , gonna reboot the router ...things seem a bit slow
[04:09] <tarek_> how do i execute the .run files?
[04:10] <isia> sh filetorun.run
[04:10] <tarek_> ah k
[04:11] <tarek_> is there another way of installing my nvidia card onto kubuntu?
[04:11] <insllvn> hello world
[04:12] <insllvn> not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes
[04:12] <insllvn>  i installed kubuntu on top of an existing ubuntu install
[04:13] <insllvn> using apt-get install
[04:13] <insllvn> i now want to revert to ubuntu
[04:13] <insllvn> everything else has been removed and i seem to be running ubuntu
[04:14] <insllvn> the apt command claims i have removed kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <insllvn> but when i boot the machine i still get the kubuntu loading screen ie KUBUNTU with a loading bar beneath it
[04:14] <insllvn> how do i fix that?
[04:16] <Pitabred> insllvn: apt-get install gdm
[04:16] <Pitabred> er... actually, you may need to dpkg --reconfigure bootsplash
[04:17] <Pitabred> I can't remember exactly
[04:18] <stdin> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[04:18] <stdin> ^ is the command
[04:19] <stdin> after that "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[04:20] <insllvn> thanks Pitabred
[04:20] <Pitabred> I think you meant to thank stdin ;)  He had the actual answer
[04:21] <alexbobp> I'd like to make an encrypted filesystem that is stored as one file, and mounted at boot time (after prompting for a password) to a specific directory, and then I'll move all the program settings with sensitive data there and symlink them.  Is there any reason why this is a bad idea, and if not, how would I do it?
[04:22] <jon__> hey, what do i need to install for amarok to play mp3s? i already have ubuntu restricted
[04:23] <LjL> !mp3
[04:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <jon__> that don't help me. sorry
[04:23] <stdin> have you actually looked at the page?
[04:23] <jon__> ya
[04:24] <stdin> because it tells you what you need to install
[04:24] <stdin> *cough* "To play mp3's with Amarok, install the package libxine1-ffmpeg (which will install libmad0 as well)." *cough*
[04:25] <jon__> ops, sorry
[04:25] <stdin> really helps to read those pages ;)
[04:25] <Jucato> also helps to cough a lot :)
[04:25] <jon__> and a bit longer than a glance
[04:25] <jon__> lol
[04:26] <JimmyDee_> if you dont cough alot, it doesnt work properly
[04:27] <BluesKaj> ahem ...clears throat
[04:27] <NightBird> if I insert a usb thumb drive, the kernel recognizes it, but it doesn't get auto mounted, how do I get it to mount?
[04:28] <stdin> have a look in media:/
[04:29] <stdin> it should be in there
[04:29] <NightBird> nope
[04:29] <NightBird> it has the 3 partitions(windows, plus two linux partitions), and my cd rom drive
[04:30] <MetaMorfoziS> NightBird > check what syslog says, when you plg in your drive... (sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog then press some enter for a maker for you)
[04:30] <adlisyakir> !paste
[04:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <MetaMorfoziS> For example if that is a samsung mp3 player, it's only says two lines, and nothing else, thatmeans it's not supported (maybe not supported by default)
[04:32] <NightBird> NetworkManager: <debug> [1191248517.346462]  nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_930_6533_noserial_if0')
[04:32] <Tex-Twil_AWAY> hi
[04:32] <NightBird> NetworkManager: <debug> [1191248517.346462]  nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_930_6533_noserial_usbraw')
[04:32] <MetaMorfoziS> don't paste that to here
[04:32] <MetaMorfoziS> paste to !paste ^^
[04:32] <adlisyakir> hye.. please check in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/plain/
[04:32] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:32] <adlisyakir> and tell me how to overcamo that problem
[04:33] <NightBird> MetaMorfoziS: part of the problem is that I need to install some network software, which I've put on my usb drive...
[04:33] <MetaMorfoziS> adlisyakir > I don't know what you want, but "Access Point: None" this didn't helps you to connect:)
[04:34] <MetaMorfoziS> check for iwconfig eth1 ap 00:11:22:33:44:55 (iirc)
[04:34] <Phobos> Hi. How do I make a symbolic link in /home and whenever I click on it it leads me to ftp://www.something.com (in Konqueror)
[04:35] <adlisyakir> i want to connect the internet with my built in wireless in my laptop
[04:35] <adlisyakir> how?
[04:35] <MetaMorfoziS> Phobos > right click on desktop-> new item -> new url
[04:35] <MetaMorfoziS> or something like this
[04:35] <Phobos> MetaMorfoziS: k, thanks mate
[04:35] <MetaMorfoziS> NightBird > then i dunno... try read what syslog says, if there is a problem, it must says that out...
[04:36] <NightBird> thanks anyways
[04:36] <NightBird> I need to get ready for work myself and get going, so I'll try to fix it when I get home tonight
[04:36] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[04:38] <deviance> !mmorpg
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mmorpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Tex-Twil_> !dontask
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <hero> heh
[04:39] <Tex-Twil_> !ask
[04:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:39] <chewey> hi. I'm just doing some long distant support for someone with a DSL modem. pppoeconf does see the access concentrator and asks for user/pass, but "pon dsl-provider" apparently does not work.
[04:39] <chewey> Where do we have to kick?
[04:40] <MetaMorfoziS> chewey > first try killall 9 pppd
[04:40] <MetaMorfoziS> more than one pppd can cause problems:) Then re pon dsl-provider and check syslog
[04:41] <MetaMorfoziS> "does not work" is not an error message:-)
[04:41] <MetaMorfoziS> chewey > the same with the dying dhclients
[04:41] <grul> !apache
[04:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:41] <chewey> I know. It's my sister on the phone at the other end, that's tough for error messages ;-)
[04:41] <MetaMorfoziS> kill them, before try to connect
[04:44] <genii> !info ubuntu-lamp
[04:44] <ubotu> ubuntu-lamp: Packages for a LAMP setup. In component seveas-meta, is optional. Version 7.04-7 (feisty-seveas), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:46] <ScorpKing> hello genii. :)
[04:46] <genii> ScorpKing: Hiya
[04:46] <deviance> genii: I don't suppose you know what to make of this error do you?
[04:47] <deviance>    /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[04:47] <deviance> It happens when I run Compiz
[04:48] <genii> deviance: Seems no framebuffer config for depth 32 but otherwise couldn't make much of it
[04:48] <ScorpKing> does anyone know where i can post howto's for *ubuntu?
[04:48] <trappist> ScorpKing: the forums are a popular place for that
[04:48] <deviance> genii: So that wouldn't be anything to do with my window decoration dissapearing then? Damn
[04:49] <ScorpKing> oh ok. thanks
[04:49] <genii> ScorpKing:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/   ?
[04:49] <ScorpKing> looking...
[04:49] <deviance> Dont suppose you have any ideas?
[04:50] <genii> deviance: compiz and framebuffer together are tricky. You'd need to find someone with a comparable setup as you have (same video card, similar xorg etc)
[04:50] <trappist> deviance: try running kde-window-decorator --replace
[04:50] <deviance> I have a 7300gs
[04:50] <deviance> Nope nothing trappist
[04:51] <deviance> Just this error:
[04:51] <ScorpKing> genii: that could work as well. ty
[04:51] <deviance> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[04:51] <deviance>   Major opcode:  147
[04:51] <deviance>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:51] <deviance>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:51] <deviance> Failed to open device
[04:53] <chewey> where does the pppd log go?
[04:54] <ismakun> how do i update java plataform 1.4 to 1.5 urgent plizzz
[04:55] <BluesKaj> ismakun, uninstall 1.4 first then install 1.5
[04:55] <ismakun> but how
[04:55] <ismakun> with the jre?
[04:55] <BluesKaj> with adept
[04:56] <anryko> hi
[04:56] <julian> hola
[04:56] <ismakun> :( im kinda newb with linux i want to install jboss but it requieres that plataform
[04:56] <ismakun> dont know how to get it
[04:57] <stdin> ismakun: the package you want is "sun-java5-jre" (for version 1.5) or "sun-java6-jre" (for 1.6)
[04:57] <anryko> is there any bash command, using which i can start process trat cant be killed by pressing Ctrl-C
[04:57] <ScorpKing> anyway, i'll upload the dd to nfs howto later. have to go shopping. :) bbl
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> anryko > try & after the cmdline
[04:58] <trappist> anryko: I don't think so, but you can start a process that puts you back at the shell, which can safely be killed, by saying "nohup <command> &"
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> anryko > kate & or an other option is nohup kate &
[04:58] <MetaMorfoziS> the last is still runs after you closes that terminal
[04:59] <anryko> thenx alot
[04:59] <stdin> both will run after the console is closed actually
[04:59] <MetaMorfoziS> stdin > no.
[04:59] <stdin> MetaMorfoziS > yes.
[04:59] <MetaMorfoziS> try out. the & one is killed when you closes the session, try out.
[05:00] <stdin> MetaMorfoziS: well, works with xterm
[05:01] <MetaMorfoziS> konsole, kate &, altf4 on konsole, kate closes...
[05:01] <MetaMorfoziS> the same with xterm for me.
[05:01] <ismakun> to unistall java 1.4 i have to remove all  1.4 including sdk and jre?
[05:02] <MetaMorfoziS> ismakun > yes, but if you don't want you can use "update-alternatives java"
[05:03] <stdin> MetaMorfoziS: try "xterm &" then close konsole
[05:03] <ismakun> and how update-alternatives java works?
[05:03] <MetaMorfoziS> stdin > lol:))
[05:03] <MetaMorfoziS> Yes, so if an app wants, it can runs after the session closed:) it's lol:)
[05:04] <yeniklasorr> I have upgraded to Gutsy Gubbon. I have a problem with sound (alsa installed). What can I do
[05:04] <trappist> yeniklasorr: /join #ubuntu+1
[05:04] <stdin> start by going to #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> ismakun > sorry, i was wong, if you want to use update-alternatives do like this: update-alternatives --config java (it asks you for the default version of java)
[05:07] <yeniklasorr> is asoundconf set-default-card command needs restart computer ?
[05:08] <stamen> hi, how to install nvidia drivers in kubuntu 7.10
[05:08] <stamen> and to work with glx?
[05:08] <LjL> !nvidia
[05:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <LjL> !gutsy
[05:08] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <stamen> when I have installed them and try to startx it says failed to start glx and nvidia drivers
[05:09] <LjL> stamen: how did you install them?
[05:10] <stamen> I have the driver from the web site, and nvidia-glx have installed from adept
[05:10] <LjL> stamen, nvidia-glx *is* the driver.
[05:10] <stamen> not from adept, from apt-get
[05:10] <LjL> so if you *also* installed it from nvidia.com, it's unsurprising that you'd have problems.
[05:10] <stamen> ok
[05:10] <stamen> but why it fails to start x
[05:11] <anryko> mm, i have one problem, i have the script which makes chroot and after that gives me tty login script. the problem is that i can just Ctrl-C at login script and get root at chrooted space.I need to make login script unskipable after chroot.... something like in init process at startup.. there u cant just skip login
[05:11] <LjL> probably because of files that conflict between the nvidia.com driver and the driver from APT.
[05:11] <LjL> stamen: type  debsums -s  and pastebin the output
[05:11] <stamen> so you say to try the drivers from apt?
[05:12] <stamen> ok
[05:12] <stdin> you may have to install the "debsums" package
[05:13] <LjL> stamen: no, i said to type debsums -s.
[05:13] <LjL> i *do* also say that you should *only ever* use the drivers from the repos, however.
[05:13] <stamen> http://pastebin.com/m14766200
[05:13] <MetaMorfoziS> if you have the orig driver, then you can uninstall that, iirc it has an --uninstall option, that removes everything that it installed
[05:13] <stamen> sory
[05:13] <MetaMorfoziS> orig == that you have downloaded from nvidia.com
[05:13] <stamen> mistake
[05:13] <stamen> wait
[05:13] <MetaMorfoziS> has*
[05:14] <stamen> http://pastebin.com/m307dc130
[05:14] <olimpico> I updated k3b and now when I burn a Data DVD I can't open the files from windows or from my player!!!
[05:14] <LjL> stamen: sudo apt-get install debsums, first
[05:14] <olimpico> They did something wrong on the update!!
[05:14] <stamen> ok
[05:14] <olimpico> Someone knows about this?
[05:18] <stamen> LjL: wait because the list is long :)
[05:18] <LjL> wonderful...
[05:19] <ashley1> hey people
[05:19] <ashley1> i need help
[05:19] <ashley1> with gcc compiler
[05:19] <LjL> !ask
[05:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:19] <ardchoille> LjL: What's the purpose of debsums? Doesn't the pm take care of that when installing?
[05:19] <ashley1> when i compiler a .c file, it makes an executable
[05:19] <ashley1> when i want it to make a .out
[05:19] <ashley1> how do i do it
[05:20] <ashley1> ?
[05:20] <ashley1> anyone?
[05:20] <LjL> ardchoille: it should, i think. but with drivers installed from nvidia.com, i'd rather make him waste some time^W^W^W^W^W make sure.
[05:20] <ashley1> can anyone help me?????
[05:20] <ardchoille> ok
[05:20] <ashley1> anyone???
[05:20] <LjL> aho
[05:20] <stdin> huh? ashley1 what do you mean?
[05:20] <LjL> !patience
[05:20] <ardchoille> !patience
[05:20] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:20] <LjL> ashley1: first of all, your question was unintelligible to me.
[05:20] <ashley1> When i compile with GCC, it makes an executable
[05:21] <ashley1> instead of a .out file
[05:21] <LjL> err...
[05:21] <ardchoille> a.out *is* an executable, isn't it?
[05:21] <stdin> what do you think a .out file is ?
[05:21] <ashley1> it makes a .exe
[05:21] <ashley1> instead of .out
[05:21] <LjL> ashley1: this is not Windows.
[05:21] <ashley1> I KNOW
[05:21] <ashley1> all i need to know is how to make GCC compiler a .out file instead of a .exe file
[05:21] <stdin> .out is *just* an extension, means nothing to linux
[05:22] <LjL> ashley1: so if you type  gcc filename.c , you end up with "filename.exe"?
[05:22] <ashley1> does anyone know how to?
[05:22] <ashley1> yes
[05:22] <ashley1> exactly that LjL
[05:22] <ashley1> and im on Ubuntu
[05:22] <LjL> ashley1: "gcc --version" please
[05:22] <ashley1> 4.11.2
[05:22] <ashley1> 4.1.2
[05:22] <ashley1> *
[05:22] <LjL> !info gcc
[05:22] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:22] <trappist> ashley1: what gcc command are you using?
[05:23] <trappist> ashley1: gcc filename.c should usually produce a.out
[05:23] <LjL> ashley1: update-alternatives --list cc
[05:23] <ashley1> trappist
[05:23] <ashley1> i type "gcc test.c"
[05:23] <ashley1> and it produces test.out
[05:23] <ashley1> test.exe*
[05:24] <LjL> !enter
[05:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:24] <ashley1> i need it to compile test.out
[05:24] <ashley1> sorry, i need to get used to enter
[05:24] <stamen> LjL: this is the link http://pastebin.com/m51884895
[05:24] <LjL> ashley1: what's the output of  update-alternatives --list cc  ?
[05:24] <stamen> LjL: and as I see I have problems with the drivers for nvidia
[05:24] <ashley1> no output
[05:24] <trappist> ashley1: have you, like, gone out of your way to set up cross-compiling?  and, just to make sure, you *are* on a linux box, right?
[05:24] <ardchoille> That should have given you a path
[05:25] <stamen> LjL: but how to repair them
[05:25] <ashley1> it doesnt matter
[05:25] <ashley1> thanks for trying to help
[05:25] <ashley1> anyway
[05:25] <stamen> LjL: with preinstaling them?
[05:25] <LjL> stamen: do what meta told you first, i.e. --uninstall the driver from nvidia.com. then - hold on, i'll prepare a command line for you.
[05:25] <ardchoille> impatient
[05:25] <LjL> idiot
[05:25] <stamen> LjL: ok
[05:27] <LjL> stamen: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx mesa-common-dev nvidia-glx xserver-xorg-core
[05:28] <genii> ardchoille: I think half todays generation have ADD
[05:29] <ardchoille> genii: lol
[05:29] <LjL> i have SUB, sometimes MUL
[05:29] <stamen> LjL: after reseting the X I will tell you what happens
[05:29] <LjL> i don't RISC to use MUL, though
[05:31] <VSpike> hmm reminds me of ARM
[05:31] <LjL> see though ardchoille, if i didn't have the debsums output, i wouldn't have know which packages had got messed up by the nvidia.com drivers
[05:32] <VSpike> used to love writing ARM assembler
[05:32] <LjL> you're probably crazy, no offense
[05:32] <ardchoille> LjL: Oh, ok.
[05:32] <VSpike> LjL: who me? :)
[05:36] <LjL> VSpike: yes you :P
[05:37] <VSpike> LjL: haha
[05:37] <VSpike> LjL: what's crazy about that?  It was a nice chip to write for :)
[05:38] <VSpike> LjL: Should say "is", since although you don't find it in computers any more, it's in 1000's of consumer devices instead
[05:38] <LjL> VSpike: i know
[05:38] <LjL> i would program it in assembly though :P
[05:38] <LjL> wouldn't, even
[05:39] <LjL> VSpike: and i suspect it's still in Acorn compatibles, anyway
[05:39] <VSpike> LjL: I'm not sure I would either now :)
[05:40] <X314> hmm.. greetings from the other side of the line
[05:40] <VSpike> LjL: true, the Iyonix machines have it in.. I forgot about them
[05:41] <dappermuis> hmmm...just noticed that my built in bluetooth device is no longer being picked up - any ideas?
[05:41] <VSpike> LjL: It was quite nice the way the BBC Basic V could be used with the built-in assembler to do macro assembler type stuff
[05:42] <stamen> LjL: with preinstalling that which you gave, it gives me an error, and says that can't initialize the glx driver and nvidia driver too
[05:42] <ashley1> A UP PRICKS
[05:42] <stamen> LjL: something is wrong with the glx module I think
[05:42] <ashley1> YOU FUCKING MONGS
[05:42] <ashley1> YOU HAVE NO LIFE
[05:42] <ashley1> FUCKING
[05:42] <ashley1> DICK HEADS
[05:42] <ashley1> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:42] <ashley1> AHAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:42] <LjL> VSpike: i've never used an Acorn machine to be honest, so i don't really know. though it looked at least interesting that BASIC was so "integrated" with the system
[05:42] <ashley1> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:42] <trappist> nice.
[05:43] <LjL> stamen: try "sudo depmod -a"
[05:43] <X314> LjL :P
[05:43] <stamen> ok
[05:43] <LjL> what an irritating individual
[05:43] <stdin> indeed
[05:43] <VSpike> LjL: they were nice for their time, but that time was a while back
[05:43] <trappist> that the guy whose gcc produced .exes?
[05:44] <LjL> yeah trappist
[05:44] <LjL> of course, that was just an excuse
[05:44] <LjL> it doesn't really
[05:44] <trappist> yeah
[05:44] <X314> the world is built upon irritating individuals.
[05:44] <trappist> you have to try pretty hard to make that happen
[05:45] <stdin> LjL: shouldn't that ban be on *!?=ashley1@* (or another ban on that too)?
[05:46] <VSpike> why would anyone go so far out of their way just to irritate other people?  Or am I just lacking a whole dimension of entertainment in my life..
[05:46] <LjL> VSpike: you type gibberish that ARM processors understand, he types gibberish that irritates IRC operators
[05:47] <stdin> some people are stupid, so lets not give them the satisfaction of talking about them :)
[05:47] <kkathman> VSpike:  when you are 14 years old and havent the slightest idea of what girls are, or unable to communicate, that shennanigan IS your source of entertainment
[05:47] <VSpike> LjL: I see where you're coming from there :)
[05:48] <VSpike> Mine made spinning wire frame cubes though
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i wonder how many people a blanket aol ban would affect
[05:54] <Daisuke_Ido> because that still seems to be the breeding ground for the dumbest of the dumb
[05:59] <otzku> How do install the OpenGL Python bindings?
[06:00] <elitrou> i need a help with fixing up my JRE
[06:01] <antibus> nabend
[06:02] <redo86> hola
[06:02] <antibus> ist vllt jemand anwesen der mir dabei helfen knnte meinen lcd bildschirm mit meinem notebook zu verwenden
[06:02] <emilsedgh> !de | antibus
[06:02] <ubotu> antibus: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:03] <X314> okay, here is a question.. say i deleted some files from a program.. and naturaly they dont install em again.. how do i get it to install em again?
[06:04] <poison--> x314, use adept
[06:04] <elitrou> although sun's JRE 6.0 is installed when i type "java" in the konsole it doesn;t recognize it as a valid command
[06:05] <X314> poison--: how? since it does not "reinstall" the files
[06:05] <evilidler> Remove the program and reinstall
[06:05] <X314> doesnt work, tried it
[06:05] <evilidler> You don't lose personal settings
[06:06] <elitrou> anyone has an idea about my java issue?
[06:06] <X314> i dont get a "start" file thing anymore, and the personal settings are gone
[06:07] <X314> i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling a few times
[06:07] <poison--> <X314, reboot in recovery mode as root and try a purge first than reinstall
[06:11] <newsense07> how can i change my xserver ?
[06:13] <npurciful> hey whats up everyone
[06:14] <npurciful> Does any here have a good software for makeing a report of music collection
[06:15] <dhq> y arent there any updates for beryl
[06:17] <stamen> LjL: I have downloaded the latest driver for nvidia from the web site and now all is working :)
[06:17] <elitrou> how can i define a command in bash? i want to make "java" run the specific version
[06:17] <stamen> LjL: my version of the driver was old
[06:17] <stamen> LjL: which I have downloaded before :)
[06:17] <LjL> stamen: good luck then -- each time you'll get a kernel update (which is "often", since you're using Gutsy), the driver will break.
[06:17] <spawn57> dhq: beryl is part of compiz fusion now
[06:17] <stamen> LjL: but 10x for the time and helping me
[06:18] <LjL> elitrou: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:18] <dhq> spawn57: so what does that mean i have to install compiz fusion
[06:18] <stamen> LjL: I know this, but the problem was with mismatching the glx extensions and modules :)
[06:18] <stamen> LjL: as you and me saw :)
[06:18] <spawn57> dhq: yeah, and I've heard from a colleague that's it's much more stable =] 
[06:18] <stamen> LjL: bb
[06:18] <LjL> stamen yeah but that can be fixed by using the driver from the repos, too. i'm using it fine
[06:19] <stamen> LjL: yes but with me they are not working
[06:19] <stamen> LjL: they work but with problems
[06:19] <dhq> spawn57: so what is the exact package name
[06:19] <LjL> stamen: there is also an "nvidia-glx-new" package. which is the latest version of the drivers AFAIK.
[06:19] <elitrou> LjL: thanks, it fixed my life:)
[06:19] <stamen> LjL: since 7.04 I am using the drivers from the nvidia
[06:19] <LjL> !info nvidia-glx-new gutsy | stamen
[06:19] <ubotu> stamen: nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-12.4 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[06:20] <LjL> stamen: and that includes, of course, both the X module and the kernel module
[06:20] <stamen> LjL: next time I will try with "new"
[06:20] <spawn57> dhq: I'm sorry I don't have the details, I haven't looked into myself
[06:20] <stamen> LjL: :)
[06:20] <dhq> spawn57: what do you use
[06:20] <dhq> spawn57: so no more beryl
[06:22] <spawn57> i don't use anything right now, just the defaults =|
[06:22] <spawn57> the folks that used to beryl now focus on plugins for compiz-fusion =] 
[06:23] <poison--> !compiz
[06:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <spawn57> ahh, thanks for the heads up poison--
[06:26] <stamen> LjL: I found somthing, and it is that diret rendering is not active :(
[06:26] <stamen> when I wrote glxinfo
[06:26] <stamen> but the driver is working ?
[06:26] <ardchoille> Time for sleep.. back later
[06:27] <runlevelten> ubotu: phpldapadmin
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpldapadmin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <stamen> !nvidia
[06:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <runlevelten> !info phpldapadmin
[06:27] <ubotu> phpldapadmin: web based interface for administering LDAP servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.8.3-7 (feisty), package size 745 kB, installed size 3936 kB
[06:39] <deviance> IS there any advantage of 64bit over 32bit?
[06:39] <deviance> I am running 32 but my proc would support 64, should I upgrade for Gutsy?
[06:39] <evilidler> Memory access without tricks
[06:39] <stdin> deviance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4 explains some of it
[06:41] <deviance> Im on intel
[06:41] <deviance> Core 2 Duo e6420
[06:41] <stdin> doesn't matter, amd64 works with intel too
[06:42] <SETKEH-NRNS> any one know where i can find the nvidia drivers for a broadcom wireless network interface card in the  .inf format for linux
[06:42] <stdin> nvidia drivers for bradcom?
[06:42] <stdin> broadcom rather
[06:43] <SETKEH-NRNS> yeah i have nvidia drivers on my wireness and wired nerwork interfaves
[06:43] <SETKEH-NRNS> intefaces *
[06:44] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper used .inf's, also has link to the drivers)
[06:45] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin i check it out mate and get back to you
[06:47] <GuHHH> whats a good soundcard (with full suport) for linux?
[06:47] <deviance> Wee, Compiz Fusion is working :D
[06:47] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin ubuntu is dapper ???
[06:48] <ubuntu_> well the only soudcards are from Creative and they don't do Linux drivers anymore
[06:48] <stdin> SETKEH-NRNS: use "lsb_release -c" to find out what you have
[06:48] <evilidler> Lots of working onboard sound that doesn't suck. But in this computer I have an Audigy 2.
[06:49] <evilidler> Also, Creative made 64-bit drivers for X-Fi. No idea if they intend to release 32-bit drivers.
[06:50] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin im not running linux at the moment because i have pc linuxos installed and cant get the net working on it and there support chanell is useless where can i get dapper ubuntu it have the drivers already in it for my nic
[06:51] <stdin> SETKEH-NRNS: if dapper has it, then so will feisty (dapper is old). get the feisty CD ISO here http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/
[06:52] <DrZolberg> hello all! can any one tell me what's up with kubuntu's shipIt service?)
[06:52] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin thanks heaps mate
[06:52] <stdin> np :)
[06:52] <stdin> DrZolberg: don't know, what's up with it?
[06:52] <emilsedgh> will 7.10 be shipped?
[06:52] <stdin> emilsedgh: yep
[06:53] <emilsedgh> stdin: nice
[06:53] <DrZolberg> stdin,well the site tells that it's stopped due to preparations for 7.04 version release
[06:54] <DrZolberg> i just can't figure that out - if the 7.10 has already been released - why they need to prepare for 7.04 release?)))
[06:54] <stdin> DrZolberg: probably a mistake, I'll inform the relevant people :)
[06:55] <rathel> Hey I need some help bad, I didn't change anything from yesterday but my other computer can seem to do anything on the network, can't ping anything, and I can't ping it, however I can ping it while it's in it shutdown process, that's the only time it pings, What to do?
[06:55] <DrZolberg> huh)
[06:56] <evilidler> rathel: Seems like you have a firewall script you shouldn't. Take a peek in /etc/init.d/ for anything related to firewalls or iptables
[06:56] <DrZolberg> stdin,well thanks)
[06:56] <stdin> DrZolberg: thanks for noticing :)
[06:57] <ubuntu__> 
[06:57] <ubuntu__>     .
[06:57] <ubuntu__> ?
[06:57] <LjL> !ru | ubuntu__
[06:57] <ubotu> ubuntu__:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:57] <rathel> evilidler: ah... Since you said, I think I know what's cauing it brb lemme remove it and try again...
[06:57] <DrZolberg> ubuntu__ , yeah thats what I thought
[06:57] <DrZolberg>   ?
[06:58] <DrZolberg> ubotu,)
[06:59] <LjL> could we stick to english?
[07:00] <ubuntu_> DrZolberg: 7.10 has not been released
[07:00] <DrZolberg> hm
[07:00] <DrZolberg> read hews at kubuntu.com
[07:01] <DrZolberg> oh well
[07:01] <DrZolberg> my mistake
[07:01] <DrZolberg> i missed the BETA word)
[07:01] <DrZolberg> is anyone here from khanty-mansiysk?
[07:02] <evilidler> There's some quirky CSS on the beta read more page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu
[07:02] <DrZolberg> ubuntu_,anyway why did you stop kubuntu shipit)
[07:02] <evilidler> In Opera, the table on the right moves up while loading, stopping at such a position that only points 7 and down are visible
[07:03] <ubuntu_> DrZolberg: Me?
[07:03] <DrZolberg> ubuntu_ well not you)
[07:04] <stdin> evilidler: seems to be an opera quirk, looks fine in konqueror and firefox
[07:05] <evilidler> stdin: I'm sure it does, but a lot of faulty code looks OK in some browser or other ;)
[07:06] <stdin> evilidler: no, the code is 100% fine, Konqueror is the most standards compliant browser out there, so compliant in fact that any bad code breaks it :p
[07:06] <evilidler> stdin: I'll send a bug report to Opera, then :)
[07:07] <BluesKaj> konq still seems a bit slow ,even tho I've got ipv6 turned off and blacklisted
[07:08] <evilidler> stdin: It's not entirely compliant, though. IDs are re-used, but should be unique.
[07:09] <evilidler> As a webdeveloper, I have to look at them all
[07:10] <emilsedgh> evilidler: im a web developer too, when i create something with watching konqueror, im almost sure that there is no problem with Fx and Opera, but im sure, always, __ALWAYS__ that IE cannot render my page...
[07:10] <evilidler> emilsedgh: That doesn't go well with my employer ;)
[07:11] <emilsedgh> ;)
[07:11] <evilidler> Better to introduce minor annoyances than completely breaking pages ;)
[07:11] <evilidler> Then prepare a "fix" which creates a new quirk..
[07:11] <SETKEH-NRNS> im a webdeveloper as well and i dont have problems with cross browser i have never had anything that hasent not worked in another browser
[07:12] <evilidler> Margins, padding, boxmodels. The horror!
[07:12] <SETKEH-NRNS> lol
[07:12] <emilsedgh> SETKEH-NRNS: try a transparent png on your page, try to use nice css things, js ones, padding's and little things that make you crazy!
[07:12] <newsense07> how can i find out what xserver im running ?
[07:14] <stdin> newsense07: try KMenu > System > KInfoCenter > X-Server
[07:14] <SETKEH-NRNS> whats the command to extract a .tar.gz file ?????
[07:15] <stdin> tar xzf file.tar.gz
[07:15] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin thanks mat e
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[07:15] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:15] <Dr_willis> I cheat and use unp. :)
[07:15] <ubuntu_> Ha ha :-)
[07:16] <evilidler> Are there other archive formats than tar.gz and tar.bz2? Of course not. They are hallucinations. Therefore you only need to learn Tar.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> wine winrar.exe
[07:16] <SETKEH-NRNS> [setkeh@localhost ~] $ sudo tar xzf faerion-1.17.7.1-src.tar.bz2
[07:16] <SETKEH-NRNS> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[07:16] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: Child returned status 1
[07:16] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:16] <SETKEH-NRNS> [setkeh@localhost ~] $
[07:17] <LjL> why on earth "sudo"?
[07:17] <evilidler> SETKEH-NRNS: That's not a tar.gz :)
[07:17] <stdin> then it's not a gzip file
[07:17] <Dr_willis> and that error message is right.. :)
[07:17] <evilidler> tar jxf file.tar.bz2
[07:17] <LjL> SETKEH-NRNS: don't use the "z", and don't use sudo
[07:17] <stdin> try just "tar xf file.tar.whatever.the.extension.is"
[07:18] <evilidler> Do everything as yourself, except maybe installation..even then, try to prefer your homedir as basepath
[07:18] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin thanks mate
[07:18] <SETKEH-NRNS> evilidler lol good point thanks mate
[07:18] <Xbehave> what are the downsides to using lvm, slight decrease in performance? chance of the whole volume going on a crash?
[07:19] <SETKEH-NRNS> evilidler
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> [setkeh@localhost ~] $ tar jxf xzf faerion-1.17.7.1-src.tar.bz2
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: xzf: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: Child returned status 2
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: faerion-1.17.7.1-src.tar.bz2: Not found in archive
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:20] <stdin> man
[07:20] <stdin> !paste
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <SETKEH-NRNS> stdin sorry i forgot
[07:20] <evilidler> SETKEH-NRNS: Dude, why would you need xzf when you have jxf?
[07:20] <newsense07> how can i check whatxserver im running currently ?
[07:20] <unicode> where I can find linuxdc++ deb ??
[07:20] <stdin> newsense07: try KMenu > System > KInfoCenter > X-Server   (repeating)
[07:21] <stdin> !info linuxdcpp
[07:21] <ubotu> Package linuxdcpp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:21] <stdin> hmm
[07:21] <unicode> that bad :)
[07:21] <newsense07> stdin: sorry connection dropped, thanks very much
[07:22] <unicode> waht dc++ client exist in deb ??
[07:22] <unicode> what dc++ client exist in deb ??
[07:22] <ubuntu_> !find direct connect
[07:22] <evilidler> 17 days till projected 7.10 release? Should we believe that? :)
[07:22] <ubotu> Found: libcairo-directfb2, libcairo-directfb2-dev, libdirectfb-0.9-25, libdirectfb-dev, libdirectfb-extra (and 13 others)
[07:22] <VMuser> hi there...just would like to know if anyone here use TAblet Pc? My question is if the resolution is experienced as the same as in normal laptops?
[07:22] <SETKEH-NRNS> evilidler http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/
[07:23] <evilidler> SETKEH-NRNS: You have a broken file there. Redownload.
[07:23] <stdin> unicode: you *could* (if you're brave) use the debian package http://packages.debian.org/sid/linuxdcpp0.691
[07:24] <unicode> thanks ;)
[07:24] <stdin> SETKEH-NRNS: umm, take off the ':' at the end of the file name
[07:24] <kamil_> hi
[07:26] <evilidler> Oh, yeah..there's a colon there. Ignore me :P
[07:27] <evilidler> Now on #kubuntu: Live spellchecking!
[07:27] <evilidler> To avoid mistyping, use TAB-completion.
[07:27] <stdin> !tab
[07:27] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:29] <ScorpKing> evilidler: that only works for nics
[07:30] <evilidler> ScorpKing: And tar-files in a modern shell
[07:30] <evilidler> "modern" being defined as anytime within the past 20 years
[07:30] <trappist> practically everything in a modern bash shell with bash-completion
[07:30] <ScorpKing> that i know
[07:31] <trappist> ssh <tab> will look at ~/.ssh/known_hosts and whatnot to complete
[07:31] <ScorpKing> i don't get - <evilidler> Now on #kubuntu: Live spellchecking!
[07:31] <ubuntu_> Just wish I could add .au to mplayers completion list
[07:32] <ScorpKing> that would have been usefull.
[07:32] <jussi01> !offtopic
[07:32] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:32] <trappist> ubuntu_: look in /etc/bash_completion - it's just a bash script, you can edit it
[07:32] <ubuntu_> Did Itdoesn't seem to care
[07:32] <unicode> !offtopic
[07:32] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:33] <ubuntu_>  i use alt+\ instead
[07:33] <jussi01> !botabuse > unicode
[07:33] <trappist> ubuntu_: you have to re-source it (. /etc/bash_completion
[07:33] <trappist> )
[07:33] <ubuntu_> Yeah I know
[07:34] <ScorpKing> so i have a problem with konversation. it doesn't complete the text if i press <tab> like in bash. eg, /etc/fs<tab>. :P
[07:35] <jussi01> ScorpKing: in konversation it only works witjh nicks
[07:35] <ScorpKing> :D
[07:35] <jussi01> :P
[07:36] <ubuntu_> d-:
[07:40] <Xbehave> can lvm resise crypto partitions?
[07:40] <stdin> !away  > SETKEH-NRNS[A] 
[07:41] <evilidler> Gently touched, huh?
[07:42] <stdin> Xbehave: try asking in ##linux
[07:43] <newsense07> how do i set my system to use the xgl xserver ?
[07:44] <Sin_Citadel> hey, can anyone tell me how to set up beryl on kubuntu , i set it up perfectly on ubuntu, but cant get it to work on kubuntu
[07:44] <jussi01> !beryl | Sin_Citadel
[07:44] <ubotu> Sin_Citadel: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <jussi01> Sin_Citadel: so head over to #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <jussi01> :)
[07:44] <stdin> newsense07: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:44] <Sin_Citadel> i have an ati card
[07:44] <Sin_Citadel> an x1600
[07:45] <Sin_Citadel> tried it
[07:45] <Sin_Citadel> i installed xgl server
[07:45] <Sin_Citadel> logged in using the xgl session
[07:45] <newsense07> how do i get my system to use xgl server, i installed it ?
[07:45] <Sin_Citadel> but everything was very slow
[07:45] <Sin_Citadel> too slow
[07:46] <stdin> newsense07: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl  (repeated again)
[07:46] <ubuntu_> !ati | Sin_Citadel
[07:46] <ubotu> Sin_Citadel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <newsense07> cool
[07:47] <Sin_Citadel> yes well, i also have installed the open source ati drivers from the ubuntu repository
[07:47] <Sin_Citadel> thats why xgl is working, albeit slow
[07:48] <stdin> you mean closed source?
[07:48] <Sin_Citadel> i mean
[07:48] <Sin_Citadel> the ones that are in the ubuntu repository, i dunno if they are open/closed source
[07:48] <stdin> yep, closed source
[07:49] <Sin_Citadel> so can anyone tell me why xgl is sooo slow, it worked find on ubuntu
[07:49] <stdin> should work the same on both
[07:49] <evilidler> Did you REINSTALL to get Kubuntu=
[07:49] <evilidler> ?
[07:50] <Sin_Citadel> yeah
[07:50] <Sin_Citadel> didnt like gnome very much
[07:50] <evilidler> All you had to do was click your heels together: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <Sin_Citadel> and yes , i formatted my entire / partition too.
[07:50] <Sin_Citadel> well, my network was a bit slow then
[07:50] <Sin_Citadel> and i had a disk usage concern
[07:58] <ubuntu_> \list
[08:20] <deviance> How can I find out my cache on my hard drive>?
[08:22] <trappist> deviance: if they're ide, cat /proc/ide/<devicename>/cache
[08:26] <LogicalDash> When I click on the column titles in Adept, it doesn't sort like it seems it should. Is this a known problem?
[08:26] <nicetry> anyone know about "wine file" ?
[08:27] <deviance> nicetry: What about it, its installed with wine
[08:27] <janrof> hola que tal
[08:27] <janrof> alguien que hable espaol?
[08:28] <BluesKaj> !wine | nicetry
[08:28] <tsdgeos> !es
[08:28] <Sin_Citadel> can i run two apt's at the same time
[08:28] <janrof> alguien que hable espaol?
[08:28] <ubotu> nicetry: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:29] <janrof> muchas gracias. Tanks
[08:29] <janrof> ubota, tu hablas espaol?
[08:29] <stdin> Sin_Citadel: no
[08:29] <BluesKaj> hable espanol en kubuntu-es et ubuntu-es
[08:29] <tsdgeos> janrof: ubotu es un bot, no habla castellano
[08:29] <BluesKaj> err #kubuntu-es , #ubuntu-es
[08:30] <BluesKaj> uboyu is kinda slow today
[08:30] <BluesKaj> ubotu
[08:31] <janrof> tsdgeos estas ahi?
[08:32] <DudeMon> I'm perplexed.  I've installed on other flavors this 'dns2go' script.  When I install it in Kubuntu, i go to launch the program and it says "/usr/local/bin/dns2go: No such file or directory"
[08:32] <Doctor_Nick> robot!
[08:32] <DudeMon> but when i list it, it is there and it is executable and 25K   ???
[08:34] <DudeMon> I can do man dns2go and man pages come up, but cant get script to launch?
[08:35] <trappist> DudeMon: if you installed it from the repository, it's not in /usr/local/bin - try /usr/bin
[08:35] <Sin_Citadel> DudeMon: cp it to home dir, then try
[08:35] <runlevelten> .quit
[08:35] <DudeMon> trappist: it wasnt from a repo.  it is physically there in /usr/local/bin
[08:36] <DudeMon> sin_citadel: copy the script to my home dir? from /usr/local/bin ?
[08:36] <trappist> is dns2go a script, or a compiled executable?
[08:36] <Sin_Citadel> DudeMon: cant hurt to try
[08:37] <DudeMon> trappist:  I'd have to go with compiled executable
[08:38] <DudeMon> it is a software that keeps mapping one's IP (dynamic) to a name on the net
[08:38] <trappist> DudeMon: where did you get it?  I ask because the only time I've seen that error on a file that's physically there is if it's compiled for a different architecture.  for example, it's built for 64bit and you're on a 32bit platform.  you can tell by saying "file /usr/local/bin/dns2go"
[08:38] <Sin_Citadel> is /usr/local/bin in ur environment variable
[08:39] <DudeMon> trappist: I am on 64bit AMD, and had it running on debian just a few days ago till i jump'd ship to Kubuntu =D
[08:39] <DudeMon> it can only be run as root
[08:40] <trappist> DudeMon: did you install the 64bit version of ubuntu (or debian)?  try file against dns2go and /bin/ls and compare the beginning of the output
[08:40] <trappist> DudeMon: also... did you build it from source or download it from somewhere?
[08:41] <DudeMon> trappist:  that 'file" command yeilds-->  /usr/local/bin/dns2go: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[08:41] <DudeMon> i downloaded it from the vendor
[08:41] <trappist> deviance|away: and what does it say against /bin/ls
[08:42] <deviance|away> huh?
[08:42] <DudeMon> for 'ls' it says "ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, etc...
[08:43] <trappist> DudeMon: there ya go.  you're on a 64bit platform and it's a 32bit executable.
[08:43] <DudeMon> eeek.  cant run it in 64 bit?  i had it running under 64bit debian i thought   :-/
[08:44] <trappist> DudeMon: I just checked, and there's a version of dns2go that's available as a perl script.  you can try that, or go with a 32bit ubuntu, or set up a 32bit chroot (I go the chroot route, but it's a bit of a headache)
[08:45] <trappist> or see if you can get the source and build it yourself
[08:45] <trappist> OR use a different client.  there are open source clients for the dns2go service.
[08:45] <DudeMon> trappist:  thanks!  =D   much appreciated
[08:45] <nemisis> does anyone know how to stop kdesktop from starting (when i log in)?
[08:45] <DudeMon> hmmm ilike the idea of an open source client!  can you recommend anyone?
[08:46] <trappist> not off the top of my head, lemme look...
[08:46] <DudeMon> how did it work on 64 bit debian?
[08:47] <cj_> hi
[08:48] <trappist> how sure are you your debian was 64bit?
[08:48] <cj_> where can i download the most recent gutsy release?
[08:48] <DudeMon> trappist:  perhaps not as sure as i was :(
[08:49] <DudeMon> trappist:  u know what those progrmas would be called?  ones that update a dynamic IP to a domain name?
[08:50] <DudeMon> i'm glad to hunt for them =D  I just dont know the category they would fall under
[08:50] <trappist> DudeMon: after a quick search, looks like your best bet is deerfield's perl script
[08:51] <Parkerw207> hey can some one help me , i am using the kubuntu live cd LTS version , my wifi card is loaded properly and i can search for wireless networks and see my routers essid but i cannot connect to it , not even unsecured ones :S
[08:51] <DudeMon> trappist:  thanks so much.  what threw me for a loop was that it worked before.  i'm sure i overlooked something or goofed up
[08:52] <olimpico> Please HELP!!
[08:52] <Parkerw207> anyone ? seem like its such a silly mistake
[08:52] <Parkerw207> i remember installing it before and someone said its something silly like the wep code should be types like ****-**-** or somthing like that
[08:53] <feierfox> hey ho! i know, i'm not in #vlc
[08:53] <Minataku> DudeMon - Dude Monitor - For debugging and administring dudes (Support only for Dude/i386)
[08:53] <feierfox> but how to use subtitles in VLC?
[08:53] <feierfox> :/
[08:53] <Minataku> Sorry. Just being silly.
[08:53] <DudeMon> :p
[08:54] <trappist> DudeMon: possibly it can be made to work as-is by installing packages like lib32stdc++6
[08:54] <olimpico> I have problems writing Data DVDs, it worked perfectly well for the last years, but since the last k3b update, when I burn data DVDs I can't open them under windows, only under Linux. I did change the setup File system to Linux + Windows and also tried DOS compatibility. But nothing works. Never the less I can see the data under Linux.
[08:54] <trappist> DudeMon: and ia32-libs
[08:54] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[08:54] <carlos_> i wanna configurate another monitor in kubuntu
[08:54] <carlos_> what can i do?
[08:54] <Parkerw207> please :(
[08:55] <trappist> Parkerw207: what happens when you try
[08:55] <Parkerw207> well i can see all the networks in range
[08:55] <trappist> using what?
[08:56] <Parkerw207> and when i click on even unsecured networks i cant even connect to them
[08:56] <Parkerw207> it says connection failed
[08:56] <trappist> using what?
[08:56] <trappist> kwifimanager?
[08:56] <Parkerw207> ermm i dont know actually
[08:57] <trappist> if you can figure that out, this might get easier :)
[08:57] <Parkerw207> it was what came with LTS
[08:57] <Parkerw207> there was only one program for scaning for wifi networks
[08:58] <Parkerw207> sorry lol
[08:59] <DudeMon> trappist:   nice!!!  =D   installing those packages let the program run!  fantastic
[08:59] <trappist> DudeMon: ossum
[09:00] <DudeMon> what do those do?  besides apparently let 32bit aps run in 64bit environment?
[09:00] <trappist> DudeMon: that's pretty much it.  the file links against 32bit libraries, which you don't have until you install those.
[09:01] <trappist> DudeMon: those don't work for everything, so if this is a desktop box you might consider going 32bit, else your mplayer will be a little crippled, you won't have flash in your browser, etc.
[09:01] <trappist> if it's a server, I'd leave it like it is
[09:04] <DudeMon> trappist:  how does it cripple Mplayer?
[09:04] <trappist> DudeMon: you can't use the w32codecs package, which is what allows you to play most of the content you'll find on the intarweb
[09:05] <trappist> video content, that is
[09:05] <DudeMon> cant use w32 codecs in 64bit OS?
[09:05] <trappist> DudeMon: you can if you set up a 32bit chroot, but as I said that's a bit of a pain to set up and maintain
[09:06] <DudeMon> oh my
[09:06] <trappist> I do it, but next time I do a fresh install it'll be all 32bit.  just not worth it on a desktop box.
[09:07] <trappist> DudeMon: I blogged about this once: http://blog.linuxkungfu.org/blog/index.php?/archives/21-64bit-Nirvana.html
[09:08] <DudeMon> oh no. thats why WINE cant be installed?
[09:09] <macrozzy> hello who is the german irc
[09:10] <trappist> DudeMon: yep.
[09:11] <trappist> !de
[09:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:11] <trappist> macrozzy: ^
[09:11] <DudeMon> trappist:  thanks so much for the help.  Imma have to read that blog indetail.  didnt know i was losing all that in 64bit :(
[09:12] <trappist> DudeMon: if this is your desktop box, my hearty recommendation is to start from scratch with 32bit ubuntu
[09:12] <trappist> DudeMon: unless you want to pursue the 64bit route for educational purposes - you will learn a lot making everything work
[09:12] <DudeMon> oh man.   It is painful to think that, since i just bought this new 64bit box :(
[09:12] <trappist> DudeMon: you can install 32bit OSs on 64bit boxes
[09:13] <trappist> DudeMon: most of them anyway
[09:13] <deviance> If I am adding a non-kde application to the pannel, do I need a Executable? Or could I leave that empty and just have command line arguments such as compiz --replace & emerald --replace
[09:13] <trappist> I think opterons are 64bit-only, but for the most part they're x86_64
[09:13] <DudeMon> well, i'm never opposed to learning stuff, but the reason I got away from compiling software was to spend less time configuring everything and more time using the apps (GIS apps specifically)
[09:13] <trappist> deviance: make a .desktop file
[09:13] <deviance> How would I do that?
[09:13] <trappist> DudeMon: then go 32bit :)  should work on your current hardware
[09:14] <trappist> deviance: 'locate .desktop', pick a file, and use it as an example
[09:14] <deviance> Okay
[09:14] <DudeMon> trappist: as time progresses, these issues could work themselves out? <crosses fingers)
[09:14] <feierfox> hmmm
[09:14] <macrozzy> oh danke war eingelesen
[09:14] <feierfox> how to use subtitles in VLC?
[09:15] <trappist> DudeMon: yeah theoretically a distro could be made to run 64bit and 32bit apps flawlessly, but so far that's been an elusive goal and they've had quite a few years to figure it out
[09:15] <apollo2011> I just got back from school and came to my computer, which has been on since yesterday, and discovered that there were several indications that my /home partition was full. Sure enough, it is absolutely full. I cleaned up that partition a couple of days ago, removing several GB of data, and nothing I did since then could have used up that space (it hasn't been close to full anyway). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can maybe see what files h
[09:15] <apollo2011> ave been created/modified in the last few hours/days or what the largest files are on the drive?
[09:16] <trappist> apollo2011: `find /home -size +1G` will find any files > 1 GB
[09:16] <|Sin-Eater|> use ls
[09:17] <|Sin-Eater|> and du
[09:17] <stdin> apollo2011: "du | sort -nr | head" tends to find the top ten hogs
[09:17] <trappist> learn something every day.  didn't know you could use du without any args.
[09:18] <DudeMon> and a Nth suggestion....   du -h | grep [0-9] G
[09:18] <trappist> DudeMon: that won't find a 10G file :)
[09:18] <trappist> maybe egrep '^\d+G'
[09:19] <davubuntu> Hey there. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get kwifimanager to automatically connect to the net on startup. I've got in launching on startup, but it won't automatically connect. I have to click on scan for networks and then choose one and then enter my root password. The man page shows no indication of options I can use and googling turned up nothing relevant/helpful.
[09:21] <trappist> davubuntu: I added it to my /etc/network/interfaces, which I think kwifimanager knows how to do for you
[09:22] <davubuntu> trappist: sorry can you explain that a little further. What exactly did you add? And what do you mean by kwifimanager knows how to do that?
[09:23] <apollo2011> thanks guys
[09:23] <apollo2011> stdin: I ran that command in both /home and ~/ and all I got are a bunch of Permission Denied errors for various folders
[09:23] <davubuntu> trappist: I'm looking at the file now but it doesn't make much sense to me.
[09:23] <stdin> not good
[09:23] <trappist> davubuntu: here's my interfaces file with the wep key obscured: http://linuxkungfu.org/tmp/interfaces
[09:24] <trappist> davubuntu: ath0 is my wireless device.  yours may be different.
[09:24] <trappist> so basically pay attention to the last stanza
[09:24] <davubuntu> Okay that looks very different from mine.
[09:24] <stdin> apollo2011: you wouldn't have a habit of running GUI apps with sudo would you?
[09:24] <davubuntu> trappist: Okay that looks very different from mine.
[09:24] <apollo2011> stdin: no
[09:25] <trappist> apollo2011: there shouldn't be anything in your home directory that you can't read
[09:25] <stdin> apollo2011: well you shouldn't have permission errors in your own $HOME
[09:25] <DudeMon> :O
[09:26] <Parkerw207> ok i now know what program i was using to connect to my router , it was wireless manager ?
[09:26] <apollo2011> duckdown__: `./.local/share/mime': Permission denied du: `./.mozilla/default': Permission denied bash: hea: command not found du: `./.googleearth': Permission denied du: `./.subversion/auth': Permission denied
[09:26] <Parkerw207> i can see essid's but i cant connect to even unsecure routers
[09:26] <apollo2011> Google Earth is the only one of those I can explain, since that I do run as root
[09:26] <trappist> Parkerw207: see if you have better luck with kwifimanager
[09:27] <Parkerw207> this is a live cd
[09:27] <deviance> Whats a good app for screen recordings that wont slow my PC down that much? I need a lite one becasue I want to video some compiz effects for a friend
[09:27] <Parkerw207> i dont want to install it and find i cant even connect to the net
[09:27] <deviance> Parkerw207: Can you connect to the routers config page?
[09:27] <davubuntu> trappist: mine doesn't have addresses or netmasks at all... are they needed? Can you tell me how to work out which of these: eth0, eth1, eth2, ath0, and wlan0 is my wireless device?
[09:27] <Parkerw207> nope
[09:28] <trappist> deviance: there's a compiz plugin, I believe, that does just that for you, but iirc you have to find it and build it from source because it's not an 'approved' plugin (disclaimer: I might be remembering this from my beryl days)
[09:28] <Parkerw207> i can see all the wirelsss newtowrk available
[09:28] <Parkerw207> but when i click on them it says connection failed *
[09:28] <feierfox> how to use subtitles in VLC?
[09:28] <deviance> trappist: I think you might be right, but I cannt build applications
[09:28] <deviance> My system doesnt let me xD
[09:28] <trappist> davubuntu: the devices with addresses and netmasks are devices I'm setting up manually.  you only need to care about the stuff in that last paragraph, which is my wireless device.
[09:29] <Parkerw207> it seems crazy , surely if i it can see the actuall network that it should be able to connect ?
[09:30] <deviance> Mine did that for ages
[09:30] <deviance> The network that comes with kubutnu diddnt work, so I had to put the settings in manualy, but sometimes it accepted them, sometimes it diddnt
[09:31] <deviance> Once it worked, It hasnt bothered me since
[09:31] <Parkerw207> hmmm
[09:31] <davubuntu> trappist: okay well I don't have wep because I configured my router to only accept my two laptops by their ...something or other numbers (can't remember the term but it works). Can you tell me how to find out the essid I doubt mine will be NETGEAR. Is it just the network name I chose - in my case Dave's Network?
[09:31] <Parkerw207> is there soemthing special you have to do ?
[09:31] <newsense07> !aiglx
[09:31] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[09:32] <feierfox> !how_to_use_subtitles_in_VLC
[09:32] <feierfox> :/
[09:32] <stamen> hi
[09:32] <Parkerw207> anyone?
[09:32] <stamen> why after upgrading to gutsy I can't watch movies
[09:32] <stamen> the picture is scrambled, but voice and titles are working
[09:32] <stamen> how to fix this
[09:32] <stamen> anybody know?
[09:33] <Unicode> hi, who can help with icq
[09:33] <Unicode> ??
[09:33] <trappist> stamen: um, what kind of movies, in what player?
[09:33] <Unicode> What client I can use in Kubuntu ??
[09:33] <stamen> I am openig them with kaffeine
[09:33] <stamen> adnt the files are .avi
[09:34] <stamen> xvid
[09:34] <trappist> Unicode: I think icq uses oscar, which is the same as aol, so you just be able to use just about anything, including kopete or gaim
[09:34] <trappist> stamen: maybe you need the w32codecs package
[09:34] <stamen> in 7.04 all was ok, but know which codecs uses 7.10
[09:34] <stamen> I have installed one
[09:34] <stamen> wich I had before
[09:34] <stamen> but the same again
[09:34] <stamen> all is like scrambled
[09:35] <davubuntu> trappist: if you don't know, please let me know and I will try googling it :)
[09:35] <stamen> !xvid
[09:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:35] <trappist> Unicode: so... what do you like?
[09:35] <trappist> davubuntu: sorry, did you ask a question?
[09:35] <davubuntu> trappist: Here it is again: okay well I don't have wep because I configured my router to only accept my two laptops by their ...something or other numbers (can't remember the term but it works). Can you tell me how to find out the essid I doubt mine will be NETGEAR. Is it just the network name I chose - in my case Dave's Network?
[09:35] <trappist> davubuntu: (if so, the preferred order is google, then ask on irc :))
[09:35] <stamen> nothing is written about new 7.10
[09:36] <trappist> davubuntu: then it's probably "Dave's Network" but that apostrophe may give you some trouble
[09:36] <trappist> davubuntu: consider renaming to "dave" or something
[09:36] <trappist> stamen: oh wait, gutsy - please /join #ubuntu+1 for help with gutsy
[09:37] <davubuntu> trappist: re: google... I know. I just thought while you were helping me it might have been easy enough for you to tell me if you knew. I guess you did. Thanks
[09:37] <stamen> ok
[09:38] <xenol> plz i changed theme to i created and now my icons in konqueror and other apps r gone
[09:38] <xenol> can someone help me with that>
[09:38] <xenol> ?
[09:40] <psyhhix_> when the new ver of kubuntu will released?
[09:42] <trappist> xenol: most themes won't have icons for all your apps
[09:42] <yurimxpxman> what's the command for google desktop? I can't find it
[09:43] <xenol> trappist: can  u tell me how can i restore the original theme back? is there any step to undo changes i did?
[09:43] <trappist> xenol: there's no "undo" for it, but you should be able to select the same theme that was active before... I don't know what the default is, though
[09:44] <xenol> trappist: i am asking cause buttons as back, forward, home refresh r not visible on my konqueror
[09:44] <xenol> and i hate to reinstall kubuntu all over again
[09:45] <trappist> xenol: ouch.  you shouldn't have to reinstall, though, just select another theme.  most of them should have at least those icons.
[09:45] <xenol> trappist: i want original one :-/
[09:46] <Daisuke-Laptop> so set it to use the original one already
[09:46] <trappist> xenol: I don't know which one that is.  mine is working pretty good, let me see what I have selected...
[09:46] <xenol> Daisuke-Laptop: the original one is not saved
[09:47] <trappist> xenol: heh, my kde system settings don't even tell me which one is selected, but try crystal svg
[09:48] <summatusmentis> does kubuntu have aiglx/xgl enabled by default?
[09:48] <feierfox> no
[09:48] <trappist> summatusmentis: feisty doesn't.  apparently gutsy will.
[09:48] <xenol> trappist: it is installed or i have to dl it?
[09:49] <trappist> xenol: not sure - if it's not listed, sudo apt-get install kde-icons-crystalclear
[09:49] <summatusmentis> gutsy is the new one that's not released yet, correct?
[09:49] <trappist> summatusmentis: yes
[09:49] <ScorpKing> xenol: no need to reinstall if you can't fix it. just backup the stuff in /home/you, delete your user and create it again.
[09:50] <trappist> or just mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold
[09:50] <trappist> and log out and back in
[09:50] <ScorpKing> true...
[09:51] <genii> summatusmentis: Oct 17 or 18 is expected release date
[09:51] <summatusmentis> genii: ok, good to know. Maybe I'll wait a little while. I'm looking for an easy install inside of vmware hosted under OS X
[09:52] <trappist> summatusmentis: I don't know how compiz will perform in vmware
[09:52] <genii> summatusmentis: I'd stick with 7.04 for a while
[09:52] <summatusmentis> genii: how come?
[09:53] <trappist> I also didn't know vmware could run under osx
[09:53] <summatusmentis> vmware fusion
[09:53] <genii> summatusmentis: Because there are always fixes or issues for the first few months of a release whereas 7.04 has already been thru it's growing pains
[09:53] <trappist> summatusmentis: I've got gutsy running on a box or two right now, and it seems reasonably stable.  don't install it if you will cry when it breaks though.
[09:54] <genii> trappist: Exactly
[09:54] <trappist> summatusmentis: until it's released, that is
[09:54] <trappist> different people have different stability thresholds.  if I can expect it to boot and start X most of the time, it's stable enough for me.
[09:54] <summatusmentis> trappist: I'm just looking for an easy setup to install OpenEmbedded onto. I don't need anything specific, I use OS X for most of my stuff
[09:55] <summatusmentis> I used to run debian testing, on my old computer
[09:55] <trappist> summatusmentis: if you don't need anything specific, I'd say use fiesty.  if you really want compiz and an easy setup, and if debian testing is stable enough for you, try gutsy.
[09:56] <alucardromero> I like Gutsy so far.
[09:56] <alucardromero> I just installed it like... last night.
[09:56] <alucardromero> But I've been using it since I've been logged into the chat room.
[09:56] <alucardromero> One thing I noticed it lacks right away is the libc headers.
[09:57] <alucardromero> I found out by installing the nVIDIA drivers.
[09:58] <trappist> alucardromero: if you are going to be building stuff, apt-get install build-essential.  that will install what you need.  I don't think any previous release has installed that stuff out of the box.
[09:59] <alucardromero> Well, I won't be building anything but just the obligatory "./configure, make, make install" and the such.
[10:00] <trappist> alucardromero: right, build-essential will give you what you need for most of that.  you won't be able to do it out of the box.
[10:00] <alucardromero> Oh okay, I get you know.
[10:00] <alucardromero> now*
[10:01] <xenol> ScorpKing: i am now on live cd can u tell me plz how to add new user when i logged out without creating new one? :S
[10:01] <hitmanWilly> i swear, build-essential should be included by default, since a large amt of linux stuff is still distributed as source
[10:01] <xenol> ScorpKing: i need to log root i guess
[10:01] <alucardromero> hitmanWilly: I'm with ya on that one.
[10:01] <ScorpKing> xenol: sudo su
[10:01] <trappist> hitmanWilly: I think it's a question of what will fit on a CD.
[10:02] <alucardromero> Yeah, that's true.
[10:02] <alucardromero> DVD!
[10:02] <alucardromero> hahah
[10:02] <trappist> everybody has pet packages they wish were included by default
[10:02] <hitmanWilly> trappist: build-essential IS on the cd, just not installed by default IIRC
[10:02] <xenol> ScorpKing: but where plz? when i log on my kubuntu install i am locked
[10:02] <trappist> hitmanWilly: you could be right
[10:02] <ScorpKing> xenol: that will give you root. you can try mv ~/.kde ~/.kdeold first as the normal user
[10:02] <ScorpKing> xenol: in the konsole
[10:03] <xenol> ScorpKing: from login screen can i start it?
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> trappist: and also, AFAIK, buntu is the only distro that doesn't include a compiler by default
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> but that's just my pet peeve...lol
[10:03] <trappist> hitmanWilly: that one's definitely not true - there are distros that ship on a floppy!
[10:03] <alucardromero> DSL
[10:03] <ScorpKing> xenol: boot from your box and press <ctrl>+<alt>+F1 when it's up.
[10:03] <alucardromero> Damn Small Linux
[10:03] <Chousuke> hitmanWilly: a compiler is useless to most people
[10:04] <trappist> hitmanWilly: also, ubuntu tries very hard (and does a pretty decent job) to keep you from having to build anything from source, by having such a massive repo of packages
[10:04] <hitmanWilly> trappist: ok, sorry, desktop distro
[10:04] <xenol> ScorpKing: sudo su as login but what pwd?
[10:04] <Chousuke> hitmanWilly: and it only gives more power to attackers if they get onto your computer somehow.
[10:04] <ScorpKing> xenol: wait.
[10:04] <ScorpKing> xenol: go to konsole
[10:04] <trappist> Chousuke: there is that
[10:04] <xenol> ScorpKing: i am on live cd atm
[10:05] <ScorpKing> xenol: it's under System on the kmenu
[10:05] <trappist> Chousuke: there have also been worms (like slapper for apache) that take advantage of a compiler to do their evil deeds
[10:05] <xenol> ScorpKing: i am
[10:05] <ScorpKing> xenol: type ls /dev/ | grep hd
[10:05] <ScorpKing> xenol: what hd* is there?
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> Chousuke: ok, a compiler installed is not a security hole, there's a thousand other ways to bork a system without a C compiler, and how many crackers do you know who upload source trojans...lol
[10:06] <xenol> ScorpKing: u mean which partition or hd type?
[10:06] <ScorpKing> xenol: which is your main drive?
[10:06] <ScorpKing> xenol: /dev/hda1?
[10:06] <Chousuke> hitmanWilly: a compiler can be used to compile local exploits to gain root
[10:07] <Chousuke> hitmanWilly: the point being, if you don't need a compiler, it's better to not have one installed.
[10:07] <trappist> hitmanWilly: and that can be taken advantage of remotely and automatically, as I mentioned a moment ago
[10:07] <xenol> ScorpKing: /dev/hdb2 is /
[10:07] <ScorpKing> xenol: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt
[10:08] <xenol> ScorpKing:  mounted
[10:08] <hitmanWilly> ok, well, I didn't mean to start a flamewar here, but that's just my personal opinion, don't take it the wrong way
[10:08] <ScorpKing> xenol: chroot /mnt
[10:08] <trappist> also, if you do need a compiler, you're probably sufficiently clueful to be able to install one :)
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> trappist: ok, i'll give you that one :)
[10:09] <ScorpKing> xenol: ugh. no need for thet
[10:09] <xenol> ScorpKing: :S
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> trappist: after being here for the past six months, i can't say i agree
[10:09] <trappist> Daisuke_Ido: there's always that 10%
[10:09] <ScorpKing> xenol: cd /mnt/home/you
[10:09] <Chousuke> Daisuke_Ido: some of those people may not be clueful enough to understand that they really don't need a compiler :P
[10:10] <xenol> ScorpKing: no such file or directory i deleted my account :S
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> Chousuke: and that was exactly the issue
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i hate my keyboard :\
[10:10] <xenol> ScorpKing: and forgot to create new one :/
[10:10] <ScorpKing> xenol: then chroot /mnt
[10:10] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:10] <xenol> ScorpKing: can i log root from login screen and create new acc>
[10:10] <xenol> ?
[10:11] <Seek_Therapy> Hi! does Ubuntu have a Swf convertor....So that i can burn to DVD?
[10:11] <ScorpKing> xenol: does chroot work? no, root login won't work.
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> if you were talking about flv, i know there's a script that uses mplayer to do an flv > avi conversion, but i have no idea where i found it
[10:12] <xenol> ScorpKing: no :/
[10:12] <ScorpKing> xenol: press <ESC> when grub loads and select option 2. that will boot you to root.
[10:12] <hitmanWilly> ok, well, also im an old slack guy, so my opinions tend to be a little bit skewed from the buntu powers that be...
[10:12] <xenol> ScorpKing: recovery mode?
[10:12] <ScorpKing> xenol: then just run adduser you
[10:12] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:12] <feierfox> how to use subtitles in VLC?
[10:12] <xenol> ScorpKing: will open in terminal or in x?
[10:12] <ScorpKing> xenol: terminal
[10:12] <Seek_Therapy> does Ubuntu have a Swf convertor....So that i can burn to DVD !
[10:12] <xenol> ScorpKing: possible to start x?
[10:12] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: gui or term?
[10:13] <feierfox> guI!
[10:13] <ScorpKing> xenol: not as root.
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: ok :) but term vlc is possible...lol
[10:13] <feierfox> ah
[10:13] <ScorpKing> xenol: when you get to the root terminal just type - adduser you - and then - init 5
[10:13] <feierfox> just drag and drop
[10:13] <xenol> ScorpKing: init 5?
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: its a menu option, hold on a sec...
[10:13] <xenol> ScorpKing: no need for group?
[10:13] <ScorpKing> xenol: or 2 or 3
[10:14] <feierfox> VLC handles subtitles much more ergnomic then kaffeine
[10:14] <acomaco> Hmm is there any program looking like "deamon tools"?
[10:14] <ScorpKing> xenol: group is automatic
[10:14] <trappist> acomaco: you mean the windows one that mounts isos?
[10:14] <xenol> ScorpKing: same name as my acc name right>
[10:14] <acomaco> yep
[10:14] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:14] <Daisuke_Ido> acomaco: there are, but realize that all of the iso formats you're familiar with are pretty much useless to you now
[10:14] <xenol> ScorpKing: and pass?
[10:14] <Daisuke_Ido> iso, or bin/cue
[10:14] <Daisuke_Ido> that's about it
[10:14] <trappist> acomaco: sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/point
[10:14] <jussi01> how do i restart kicker?
[10:14] <Chousuke> trappist: -o loop
[10:15] <acomaco> okey thx trappist
[10:15] <trappist> Chousuke: right, thanks :)
[10:15] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: hmm, can't seem to find it...
[10:15] <ScorpKing> xenol: it will ask. test it on the cd. go to konsole and type sudo adduser you
[10:15] <trappist> acomaco: what Chousuke said - sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop filename.iso /mnt/point
[10:15] <acomaco> trappist: Chousuke: anything i needed?
[10:15] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: but it should be similar to switching audio tracks
[10:15] <acomaco> thxx
[10:15] <xenol> ScorpKing: room number?
[10:15] <trappist> acomaco: special packages?  nope, long as it's an iso and not a bit/cue
[10:15] <rodrigo> alguem sabe como fao para configurar a rede no debian
[10:15] <feierfox> no it isnt
[10:16] <ScorpKing> xenol: just press <enter> 5 times and select Y
[10:16] <trappist> rodrigo: spanish or portugese?
[10:16] <jussi01> !pt
[10:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:16] <feierfox> !de
[10:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:16] <feierfox> :D
[10:16] <trappist> yeah that.
[10:16] <jussi01> !es
[10:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:16] <xenol> ScorpKing: thats all?
[10:16] <Sin_Citadel> can anyone tell me how can i make kubuntu work with beryl
[10:16] <ScorpKing> yes
[10:16] <xenol> lol thx dude
[10:16] <feierfox> !vatikan
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vatikan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <acomaco> Sin_Citadel: whats your problem?
[10:16] <ScorpKing> xenol: np
[10:17] <trappist> Sin_Citadel: beryl is merged with compiz-fusion.  the beryl project is dead.
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> ok then
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> tell me how can i make compiz fusion work
[10:17] <acomaco> !beryl
[10:17] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> is there a guide
[10:17] <rodrigo> no consigo enxergar a rede s acessar a internet
[10:17] <trappist> Sin_Citadel: there are lots of howtos on the forums and elsewhere
[10:17] <acomaco> google is your friend Sin_Citadel
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> i tried
[10:17] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: hmmm, maybe under navigation?
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> most of em are for ubuntu
[10:17] <trappist> !es | rodrigo
[10:17] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:17] <Sin_Citadel> they discuss gnome
[10:18] <Sin_Citadel> not kde
[10:18] <acomaco> they work the same Sin_Citadel i would guess
[10:18] <Sin_Citadel> and i m a noob
[10:18] <rodrigo> ok
[10:18] <Sin_Citadel> andd.... i have at ati X1600 card
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: sorry, don't have anything subbed handy...lol
[10:20] <Sin_Citadel> ok nm, i'll check the ubuntu one, mayeb i could make sense of it
[10:20] <hitmanWilly> feierfox: all my dvd's are ripped to the hd, with all the subs and extra audio tracks pulled out...
[10:20] <trappist> Sin_Citadel: the only difference for kde will be you start kde-window-decorator instead of whatever the one is for gnome
[10:20] <trappist> Sin_Citadel: and, there are kde-specific ones
[10:20] <feierfox> ts...
[10:22] <Sin_Citadel> trappist: problem is that i have an ati card, and i installed xgl server, added the option to start a new xgl session too, but it is too slow
[10:22] <Sin_Citadel> anyway i can fix it?
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: you'll get that with current gen ati drivers
[10:22] <chalcedony> i need some help understanding a KDE app for cd/dvd creation called K3b i need to know how to do the final process to make the cd
[10:22] <trappist> Sin_Citadel: I'm sure there is, but I have an nvidia card so I don't know - you might ask in #compiz-fusion
[10:23] <Sin_Citadel> ok trappist
[10:23] <trappist> chalcedony: you should have a "burn" button
[10:23] <chalcedony> i need some help understanding a KDE app for cd/dvd creation called K3b i need to know how to do the final process to make the cd? I'm trying to make a backup of my system
[10:23] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: now you understand why all the nix folks have issues with ati :)
[10:23] <Sin_Citadel> hitmanWilly: i have installed the ati drivers from ubuntu repo
[10:23] <Sin_Citadel> yes :(
[10:23] <chalcedony> trappist: there are 4 places on the window for stuff to show.. the last one is the big box on the right, bottom... what should be there?
[10:23] <Sin_Citadel> ati never messed with me on windows
[10:24] <intelikey> chalcedony there is a "burn" button
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: the ati driers for linux are binary only, just like the nvidia ones, and they didn't do a very good job coding them
[10:24] <trappist> chalcedony: I don't have a set-up k3b here to look at, but I think it's on the left above the cd/dvd filesystem view
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: unlike the nvidia folks
[10:25] <trappist> I suspect that ATI drivers will be improving dramatically now that the company's been bought by a linux-friendly company
[10:25] <intelikey> chalcedony as trappist said ^   and on the next window on the far right
[10:25] <Sin_Citadel> yeah
[10:25] <chalcedony> trappist: i can see the button, i just want to make sure it's actually doing what it's supposed to do when i hit it
[10:25] <Sin_Citadel> i was thinking of buyin the new ati card
[10:25] <Sin_Citadel> but with all these problems in linux, now i m not too sure
[10:25] <trappist> chalcedony: it's not going to torch your computer, if that's what you mean
[10:26] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: which is why the open source ati driver is actually better than the nvidia one, more incentive :)
[10:26] <Sin_Citadel> hey guys, whts the diff b/w compiz and compiz fusion
[10:26] <chalcedony> can i ask you guys another one.. my son had his system set up as a 64 bit .. he put my data on it .. now i want to change it back to 32 bit.. will this work?
[10:27] <Sin_Citadel> oh wait, scratch that
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz is dead
[10:27] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: compiz-fusion has beryl folded back into it, which was a fork of the original compiz anyway
[10:27] <Sin_Citadel> they have the diff on there site
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz fusion is the deforking of compiz and beryl
[10:27] <intelikey> chalcedony yes you can install the 32bit linux on the same computer.
[10:28] <chalcedony> ok.. i pushed burn.. it says "NO Data to Burn -K3b" "Please add files to your project first"
[10:28] <Sin_Citadel> any of u know a good kicker applet lik that of gnome
[10:28] <Sin_Citadel> which monitors system resources
[10:28] <hitmanWilly> or set up a 32bit chroot, even :P
[10:28] <Sin_Citadel> a cpu grap, memory raph, network graph
[10:28] <intelikey> chalcedony didn't drag and drop anything from the top half to the bottom half of the first window ???
[10:29] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: its not kicker app, but look into conky
[10:29] <Sin_Citadel> hitmanWilly: can u gimme a url
[10:29] <hitmanWilly> !info conky | Sin_Citadel
[10:29] <ubotu> sin_citadel: conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[10:30] <chalcedony> "Problems while adding files to the project ..
[10:30] <Sin_Citadel> ok
[10:30] <chalcedony> it's moving all the sub directories at once .. since i have just the directory name at the top
[10:30] <Sin_Citadel> hey isnt there a buntu deb package for compiz fusion in the repo?
[10:30] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: its in the repos, and its small, give it a shot and see what you think
[10:30] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: yes
[10:31] <intelikey> chalcedony clicking on the dir will expand
[10:31] <chalcedony> oh~
[10:31] <chalcedony> oh!
[10:31] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: it may be in backports, but it should be there
[10:31] <Sin_Citadel> all right
[10:32] <chalcedony> um then it vanishes and says backupfile 1.0 gig
[10:33] <intelikey> chalcedony you will find that you can not burn links to the cd   (iirc)  and thus it might be better to tar up the data then burn the tarballs to the disk
[10:33] <trappist> also the cd won't preserve permissions.  if you're burning a backup to cd/dvd, yes, definitely make a tarball
[10:34] <bjwebb> hi!
[10:34] <chalcedony> ummm
[10:34] <bjwebb> i have broke my system :S
[10:34] <bjwebb> i can't seem to log in
[10:34] <intelikey> tar and gz   are standard linux tools common on "almost every linux box"   so it shouldn't be much of a challange to create or extract them.
[10:35] <bjwebb> can anyone help?
[10:35] <intelikey> is more time consumming,  but preserves hard and symbolic links, as well as ownership and permissions.
[10:35] <bjwebb> why would kdm start, but it hang after i try to log in?
[10:36] <bjwebb> log in at tty is also not possible
[10:36] <intelikey> bjwebb something in your personal settings that the system can't digest ?
[10:36] <Rise_Against> bjwebb modules maybe
[10:37] <Rise_Against> have you got a live-cd?
[10:37] <hitmanWilly> Rise_Against: i doubt it since kdm loads a full X session when it starts
[10:38] <bjwebb> Rise_Against: er yes i have, but im on the partition now, but using the recovery mode
[10:38] <Rise_Against> hmm
[10:38] <bjwebb> where you just get a root terminal
[10:38] <Sin_Citadel> hey trappist
[10:38] <Rise_Against> you mean start without kde
[10:38] <Sin_Citadel> why doesnt kubuntu auto-mount an external drive?
[10:38] <Rise_Against> what o.O
[10:38] <Rise_Against> it doesnt?
[10:39] <bjwebb> Rise_Against: me mean start without kde?
[10:40] <Rise_Against> bjwebb yea but i dont know how :S
[10:40] <Rise_Against> sry but i am a newbie ;)
[10:40] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: can you start up X with startx?
[10:40] <bjwebb> Rise_Against: yeah i have done, theres an option in grub
[10:40] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: ill try
[10:41] <intelikey> i wish i could stay connected more than 4.2 minutes
[10:41] <bjwebb> btw im root, but i can't ls my user's home dir
[10:41] <bjwebb> intelikey: get a shell?
[10:41] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: sounds like your isp is pretty lousy
[10:41] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: waht?
[10:41] <intelikey> bjwebb that would help how exactly ?
[10:42] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it's the worst i've ever messed with.
[10:42] <Creationist225> I'm having a problem with Kubuntu Gutsy Beta... where can I go to ask for help?
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: if i were you, i'd be shopping for a new one :)
[10:43] <bjwebb> intelikey: it would cure the symptoms, tho not the cause
[10:43] <intelikey> i would too.    but it's a "business" thang
[10:43] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: startx works from this "restore mode"
[10:43] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ah, gotcha
[10:43] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: ok, ctrl-alt-f2 and try logging in as your normal user
[10:43] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: if i cd /home/bjwebb2, the ls command hangs
[10:44] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: im on the restore thing, i only have ctrl-alt-f1
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: ah, crap...
[10:44] <Ibkanat> where can I look up kernel flags? Or see if my bios is being fixed in the kernel
[10:44] <intelikey> as i typed for bjwebb before i got disconnected last.   your problem sounds like it's in your users  $HOME/.*
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> yeah, now i see that issue, i agree
[10:44] <bjwebb> intelikey: yeah, problem is i can't see my home dir
[10:45] <Rise_Against> o_O
[10:45] <Sin_Citadel> hitmanWilly: can conky also monitor my frequency scaling?
[10:45] <intelikey> bjwebb then it's not there
[10:45] <bjwebb> how do i start the gettys manually?
[10:45] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: is /home on a different partition
[10:45] <intelikey> bjwebb root can see what ever is there
[10:45] <Ibkanat> my kernel is really instable
[10:45] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: it is and its mounted
[10:45] <bjwebb> i can cd to it
[10:45] <bjwebb> but ls just hangs
[10:45] <hitmanWilly> Sin_Citadel: probably, there's a million different options for it
[10:45] <Ibkanat> lastest kubuntu
[10:45] <thaler2> hi all
[10:45] <intelikey> bjwebb umount it and fsck it
[10:46] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: ok, try dismounting it and running an fsck
[10:46] <Sin_Citadel> hitmanWilly: what is ksmserver?
[10:46] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: okies
[10:46] <intelikey> hitmanWilly sorry,   you have it.  i'll step back     too many cooks ya know
[10:46] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: that sounds almost pornographic the way you put it...lol
[10:46] <bjwebb> hmm device is busy
[10:47] <Ibkanat> have google for help but found little to none. Hp laptops dont ya lovem
[10:47] <intelikey> hitmanWilly only if that's where your mind dwells
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: ok, try booting up the live-cd and do it from there
[10:47] <bjwebb> hitmanWilly: okay
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: well, it is me we're talking about here :P
[10:47] <intelikey> :)
[10:48] <Rise_Against> thats what i said before :D
[10:48] <bjwebb> i have to find it first...
[10:48] <intelikey> ?
[10:49] <Rise_Against> is gcc a c-compiler and g++ a c++ compiler?
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> bjwebb: k, but it sounds like either a heavily corrupted fs or a dead drive
[10:49] <bjwebb> :S
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> Rise_Against: sorta
[10:49] <bjwebb> so it can't just be a mucked up file
[10:49] <intelikey> Rise_Against seems that way doesn't it.   although they may both be symlinks to gcc
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> Rise_Against: g++ is a c++ addon for gcc
[10:50] <intelikey> errr i mean  gcc-$VERSION
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> i THINK g++ is in fact a symlink to gcc with all the c++ options set
[10:51] <hitmanWilly> don't quote me on that, tho
[10:51] <intelikey> ls -l `which gcc` `which g++`
[10:51] <evilidler> gcc is a link to gcc-$VERSION, g++ to g++-$VERSION
[10:51] <trappist> hitmanWilly: symlinks don't have options :)
[10:51] <NickPresta> yeah
[10:51] <Rise_Against> if i just write a simple "hello world" in c++, compiling is no problem
[10:51] <evilidler> Different frontends to the REAL binary somewhere else
[10:52] <NickPresta> g++ on my system links to g++-4.1
[10:52] <Rise_Against> but in c :S ...
[10:52] <evilidler> You can get away with compiling all your C with g++, although there are subtle differences
[10:52] <intelikey> ls -l /etc/alternatives/g??
[10:52] <NickPresta> Rise_Against, http://david.tribble.com/text/cdiffs.htm have fun :)
[10:52] <kadaffe> hey
[10:53] <Rise_Against> :O
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> well, i don't know c/c++, so the limit of my knowledge on the subject ends with ./configure...lol
[10:53] <NickPresta> heh
[10:53] <kadaffe> i am lost =(
[10:53] <NickPresta> kadaffe, what seems to be the problem?
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> kadaffe: with what?
[10:54] <Rise_Against> ./configure... xD
[10:54] <Rise_Against> uhm -.- dont wanna start windows 4 that xD
[10:55] <Rise_Against> but.. bye all :) gonna mount my /dev/bett ;)
[10:55] <Rise_Against> o.O
[10:55] <Rise_Against> i mean /dev/bed
[10:55] <Rise_Against> :p
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> lol
[10:55] <Rise_Against> so.. bye @all
[11:03] <hitmanWilly> anyway all, im out, later everyone
[11:07] <jcs7778> is there a way to have commands automatically run on login?
[11:07] <lysdexia> I need advice on doing a completely clean install of mysql-server.
[11:08] <lysdexia> When I do the ususal apt-get remove It leaves behind old user tables, etc.
[11:09] <lysdexia> I need to do a complete, scorched-earth, get the slumbits and all it's lackeys off my drive and re-install fresh.
[11:09] <ghozala> hay can i accsses my hotmail e-mail from kontact app in kubuntu
[11:11] <ScorpKing> lysdexia: try apt-get purge
[11:11] <cpk1> for some reason I cant seem to get the standard view in gmail to work with konquerer, any idea why?
[11:12] <lysdexia> E: Invalid operation purge
[11:13] <ubuntu_> when i try to mount ext3 partition is say me to specify the fs
[11:13] <ubuntu_> what should i use plz?
[11:13] <sweettooth> hello there, does anyone know how to use remote desktop connection to wake the monitor up?
[11:13] <sweettooth> or ssh, either way
[11:13] <ubuntu_> sudo mount -t ext3 device path ?
[11:13] <cpk1> ubuntu_: that should work
[11:13] <lysdexia> I don't see a purge argument in the apt-get man page.
[11:13] <Sin_Citadel> lysdexia: apt-get remove it first, then see if the files added by mysql still remain, i dont think that apt-get will remove mysql tables too
[11:14] <lysdexia> I can tell you for a fact it doesn't! :-)
[11:14] <ubuntu_>  cpk1  i get this "
[11:14] <ubuntu_> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5,
[11:14] <ubuntu_>        missing codepage or other error
[11:14] <alexbobp> apt-get doesn't have a purge argument, but dpkg does
[11:14] <sweettooth> i think apt-get has purge
[11:14] <ghozala> ubuntu may because u are running from live cd
[11:14] <alexbobp> And (except for update, upgrade, and install) apt-get is just a dpkg frontend
[11:14] <kkathman> there IS a purge param for apt-get
[11:15] <sweettooth> apt-get remove --purge xxx
[11:15] <kkathman> right
[11:15] <Sin_Citadel> lysdexia: if u have a gui, use adept
[11:15] <alexbobp> Synaptic is better than adept, in my opinion
[11:15] <kkathman> lysdexia:  it just may not be in the man page but its valid
[11:15] <alexbobp> although I use adept upgrader, since it has a notifier
[11:16] <Sin_Citadel> adept is much better than synaptic
[11:16] <Sin_Citadel> although, its hard to use for a noob
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> adept is better than synaptic in what fantasy world?
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, that explains everything
[11:16] <Sin_Citadel> in that i like kde :d
[11:17] <Daisuke_Ido> fair enough :)
[11:17] <acecase> hello
[11:17] <sweettooth> does anyone know a command that could wake monitor up?
[11:17] <ubuntu_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5,       missing codepage or other error
[11:17] <ubuntu_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[11:17] <cpk1> ubuntu_: try doing fdisk -l and see if the drive shows up and if it say what fstype
[11:17] <kkathman> lysdexia:  and alexbobp   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-remove
[11:17] <acecase> I just asked this in #ubuntu but I should probably ask here since i use Kubuntu :)
[11:17] <alexbobp> kkathman: I found it just now searching the man page.
[11:17] <alexbobp> I just hadn't encountered it before.
[11:17] <superkiwi> How do I install the 'restricted drivers' of ati in kubuntu?
[11:18] <Daisuke_Ido> mmmkay, what's the question. acecase?
[11:18] <ubuntu_> cpk1:  rofl it says w95 fat32, but i formated it as ext3 o.O
[11:18] <cpk1> ubuntu_: try mounting as fat32 then
[11:18] <acecase> I have a printer on my Kubuntu box that I can use over the network with my ubuntu notebook no problem. I can't seem to figure out, however, how to use that printer when I am booted into windows on the notebook. Any help please? :)
[11:19] <acecase> I use ipp:// to print from ubuntu clients
[11:19] <superkiwi> I'm just thinking that omg, why do you have to make every package so damn hard to remember. And it's not alot of info online.
[11:19] <ubuntu_> cpk1: uknown type needed to type "W95 FAT32" but again got some options like newdir and olddir :-/
[11:19] <Sin_Citadel> if i dont have a cd inserted in my cd rom before kubuntu boots, dubuntu doesnt mount the cdrom after login, which is understandable since there is no cd, but if i add a cd, then kubuntu still doesnt mount it, so i went to konsole, and mounted it manually, the cd shows up in konueror, but there is always an error whenever i try to copy/view the files
[11:19] <Sin_Citadel> can someone help, it is the same prob in ubuntu too
[11:19] <morphinex> acecase: I figured it out once, but I recall that it was a world of pain
[11:20] <acecase> morphinex that isn't what i want to hear :)
[11:20] <morphinex> acecase: so the printer is connected to another machine, right?
[11:20] <morphinex> acecase: not your laptop?
[11:20] <acecase> I want to hear "just type make printer public and it will work" :)
[11:20] <sweettooth> superkiwi, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[11:20] <acecase> morphinex yes. it is physicly connected to the kubuntu box
[11:22] <sweettooth> sorry for the repost, but does anyone know how to reactivate a sleeping monitor through command?
[11:22] <cpk1> pretty sure for fat32 its -t msdos
[11:23] <ScorpKing> Sin_Citadel: it sounds like a problem in /etc/fstab. can you pastebin that file?
[11:23] <Sin_Citadel> ScorpKing: sure
[11:24] <acecase> cpk1 fat32 is -t vfat
[11:24] <cpk1> I was thinking it might be that too heh
[11:24] <fdoving> sweettooth: 'xset dpms force on' might work.
[11:24] <acecase> :)
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> #
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda8
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=3403b581-b9dc-4e11-b5fc-338502fbe158 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda3
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=c43f52d0-a28b-49cd-9d30-9c267f1d1dc1 /boot ext3 nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda6
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=33dae7d3-f50b-4875-a73c-40ed0956c500 /home ext3 nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
[11:25] <ScorpKing> !paste
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda1
[11:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=1E98C31098C2E4FD /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda5
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=834C-57FA /media/hda5 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 0
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> # /dev/hda7
[11:25] <sweettooth> OMG
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> UUID=2fd57913-b3fe-4eb9-81c4-78b3097ff85d none swap sw 0 0
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> 
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> ok
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> sorry
[11:25] <Sin_Citadel> didnt know bout that service
[11:25] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:26] <acecase> Sin_Citadel what is the problem? I missed it.
[11:26] <ScorpKing> acecase:  the cd shows up in konueror, but there is always an error whenever i try to copy/view the files
[11:26] <ubuntu_> is there any chance i can backup system folders?
[11:26] <Sin_Citadel> if i dont have a cd inserted in my cd rom before kubuntu boots, dubuntu doesnt mount the cdrom after login, which is understandable since there is no cd, but if i add a cd, then kubuntu still doesnt mount it, so i went to konsole, and mounted it manually, the cd shows up in konueror, but there is always an error whenever i try to copy/view the files
[11:26] <sweettooth> fdoving, tried it, but it gave me an error (xset:  unable to open display "")
[11:26] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:26] <Sin_Citadel> ok
[11:27] <Sin_Citadel> so can anyone help
[11:27] <fdoving> sweettooth: yeah, you need to set DISPLAY=:0 for the first display etc.
[11:27] <fdoving> sweettooth: err, i mean DISPLAY=0.0 for the first display.
[11:27] <sweettooth> fdoving, could you tell me how to set it please?
[11:27] <acecase> Sin_Citadel no errors mounting manualy? and are you using iso9660?
[11:27] <fdoving> sweettooth: so 'DISPLAY=0.0 xset dpms force on' might work.
[11:27] <Sin_Citadel> yeah
[11:28] <Sin_Citadel> acecase: there is one thing though
[11:28] <ScorpKing> Sin_Citadel: what is the permissions when you do ls -l /media/cdrom0 ?
[11:28] <sweettooth> fdoving, it gave me this error (xset:  unable to open display "0")
[11:29] <fdoving> Sin_Citadel: what command did you use to mount?
[11:29] <Sin_Citadel> acecase: whenever i first mount it, mount always gives error that it is the wrong fs type, although i always give it the correct one,
[11:29] <sweettooth> fdoving, have i not set up sth properly?
[11:29] <Sin_Citadel> fdoving: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb
[11:29] <acecase> Sin_Citadel Stupid Question-> have you tried other CDs?
[11:29] <fdoving> sweettooth: are you logged in as the user running the X session, or is X running at all?
[11:29] <Sin_Citadel> acecase: yeah
[11:29] <acecase> iso9660 is almost always the rite fs type
[11:29] <Sin_Citadel> acecase: cd's, dvds, game cd's,
[11:29] <fdoving> Sin_Citadel: try to use 'pmount /dev/hdb' instead, without sudo. (after unmounting of course)
[11:30] <sweettooth> fdoving, kde is running, i can remote desktop in and open apps, but just couldn't wake the monitor up remotely
[11:30] <Sin_Citadel> ok
[11:30] <Sin_Citadel> fdoving: oh and, whenever the cd tray is empty, there is usually errors in the logs that "Drive hdb not ready for command"
[11:31] <fdoving> sweettooth: ah, from the remote desktop, try 'xset dpms force on' if you can log into the running sesison. (NX will not work, as they open new sessions for each remote login)
[11:31] <Sin_Citadel> but only when kubuntu boots to a empty cd tray
[11:31] <fdoving> Sin_Citadel: your drive might not handle HAL polling properly or something.
[11:31] <Sin_Citadel> its a sony DVD-RW drive
[11:32] <sweettooth> fdoving, Fab!! you are the man
[11:32] <fdoving> Sin_Citadel: you can try 'sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/hdb' to see if that helps in any way. to revert you need 'sudo hal-disable-polling --enable-polling --device /dev/hdb'
[11:33] <fdoving> sweettooth: i was lucky. glad it works :)
[11:33] <sweettooth> fdoving, thx for your help mate... guess im just too lazy to leave my bed and switch the monitor on, hehe
[11:34] <Sin_Citadel> fdoving: dont seem to have the utility installed, can u tell me where to get it
[11:34] <cj_> is there a net install iso for ubuntu?
[11:35] <Amad> 7j help
[11:36] <fdoving> Sin_Citadel: should be in the 'hal' package. that's on gutsy anyway. not sure on feisty.
[11:38] <ken_> hello guys i got an ubuntu kernel numering question ....
[11:38] <NickPresta> ken_,  ask away
[11:39] <Bleep> hello, can someonehelp me out with vpn connection?
[11:40] <scipper> hi
[11:40] <ken_> yo , well i got my kernel sources from kernel.org  however the highest stable is 2.6.22.9 , my collegue has his kernel from the official repositories with "-" in it now i was thinknin does ubunut doe his own fokrs or why do the yhave differnet numbering ??
[11:41] <rsingh> Hi, does anyonw know how to disable dolphin in kde feisty?
[11:41] <Bleep> hello i have adsl through vpn. how do i set this up in clean install of kubuntu feisty?
[11:42] <ken_> feisty still has konqueror u mean gutsy gibbon ?
[11:42] <rsingh> yea i ment gutsy
[11:42] <rsingh> when i try to click on a folder in konq it opens up dolphin
[11:42] <rsingh> can i have that stay in konq like it use to be?
[11:43] <ken_> i cant help there sry
[11:43] <loonyxp> hello, i just noticed that the dom tree viewer plugin isn't installed with konq-plugins in kubuntu... does anybody know why?
[11:43] <rsingh> ooh ok thanks anyways
[11:47] <intelikey> if i wanted more ananymity, more privacy, better security,   what can be done to improve this ?
[11:48] <fdoving> intelikey: encrypted traffic with tor and some protocol cleaner proxy-thing like privoxy might help you a little bit.
[11:49] <intelikey> freenode accepts tor connections ?
[11:49] <fdoving> i think so, yes.
[11:49] <ubuntu_> how can i plz install kdm theme>
[11:49] <ubuntu_> ?
[11:49] <intelikey> !theme
[11:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:50] <fdoving> intelikey: tor alone can be a security risk, the end-nodes can be compromized pretty easily, and evil hackers can set them up as we've seen examples of with security experiments in the past.
[11:50] <fdoving> intelikey: be sure to use encryption. :)
[11:50] <intelikey> correct.
[11:51] <Bleep> im desperate now... i cant get adslconnection in kubuntu
[11:51] <ScorpKing> hi Bleep! lol
[11:51] <Bleep> o lol
[11:52] <Bleep> hi again
[11:52] <ken_> hey i try again my latest stable kerenel is 2.6.22.9  , why does ubuntu offer such strange numbering liek his latest is 2.6.22-12 with a minus which isnt in kernel,org anyone know waht ubunut does here ?
[11:52] <ScorpKing> Bleep: so what happened so far?
[11:52] <Bleep> what do i need to use vpn in kubuntu?
[11:53] <ScorpKing> a howto for vpn
[11:53] <intelikey> ken kernel version is 2.6.22 ubuntu build is 22***
[11:53] <Bleep> i tried to install KVpnc but got errors
[11:54] <ScorpKing> Bleep: no luck with the linux internet? care to try again?
[11:54] <Bleep> well.. i have to  if i want to escape  from microsoft
[11:55] <ScorpKing> Bleep: i know the feeling. it took me 3 months to get 3G working on linux.
[11:55] <Bleep> lol
[11:56] <intelikey> ken example    package linux-image-2.6.15-29-386_2.6.15-29.60_i386.deb   is kernel version 2.6.15 the rest of the version string denotes config changes and patches applied as well as any rebuilds of the same source
[11:56] <Bleep> the complexibility  doenst make it too much for human beings.
[11:57] <ken_> bleep u speak some german ? =) heres a how to to set up kvpnc  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/kvpnc?highlight=%28vpn%29
[11:57] <intelikey> so    ^   it's linux 2.6.15 ubuntu 29.60_i386
[11:57] <Bleep> ah my german ist sehr slecht
[11:57] <ScorpKing> Bleep: /etc/resolv.conf will show the the dns servers when you plug the cable into the linux box.
[11:57] <WOOPdaLOOP> FRIENDS
[11:57] <WOOPdaLOOP> i have upgraded to GUTSY RIBBON
[11:57] <ken_> ah itz to basic sorry just standard isntall i think
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> and now my internet is messed up
[11:58] <ken_> RIBBON ole ole  =)
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> theres a delay in resolving websites
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> theres a delay in connecting to irc servers
[11:58] <Artimus> WOOPdaLOOP: Consider #ubuntu+1 instead
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> whats going on here
[11:58] <ken_> partay
[11:58] <gnomefreak> WOOPdaLOOP: gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 until released
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> OK MANG
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> relax
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> dont need to gang up on me
[11:58] <WOOPdaLOOP> im only one
[11:59] <ScorpKing> lol. then slow down. :P
[11:59] <intelikey> plus one
[11:59] <Bleep> it should be 10.0.0.138
[11:59] <ScorpKing> Bleep: yes. what country are you from?
[11:59] <Bleep> netherlands
[12:00] <ken_> did the official faq not help for kvpnc ?
[12:00] <sirjoshimus> So, I have an ntfs partition im trying to write stuff to, and its telling my it wont allow it because of read/write protection
[12:00] <sirjoshimus> how can i fix this?
[12:01] <ScorpKing> Bleep: oh, i'm not. can you conncet both boxes to the router at the same time?
[12:01] <sirjoshimus> i made it to share jointly between kubuntu and winxp
[12:01] <Bleep> scorp: no i cant
[12:01] <ScorpKing> :(
[12:01] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | sirjoshimus
[12:01] <ubotu> sirjoshimus: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:01] <Bleep> ken: i get error  installing kvpnc    about dependency called "menu"
[12:01] <JohnFlux> ubotu: find vid_iv50.xa
[12:01] <sirjoshimus> intelikey : ill try it out, thanks
[12:02] <ubotu> Package/file vid_iv50.xa does not exist in feisty
[12:02] <JohnFlux> grr
[12:02] <JohnFlux> anyone have this file? :)
[12:02] <ScorpKing> Bleep: i'll be back in a sec. let me do some thinking. :)
[12:02] <Bleep> oke ;)
[12:03] <intelikey> JohnFlux not me i'm sure
[12:03] <deviance> !compiz
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:04] <Bleep> btw i have found a solution that's based on my modem and type of connection but it requires PPPD and PPTP
[12:04] <JohnFlux> intelikey: thanks
[12:05] <Bleep> heres the link... just read the settings : https://w.xs4all.nl/helpdesk/abonnement/adsl/alcatel/ethernet/power/linux.php
[12:05] <intelikey> bleep what are you trying to do ?   use one box as a gateway for another box ?
[12:06] <intelikey> coffee perks in genii's ears
[12:06] <Bleep> uhm could you explain what you mean by "box"
[12:07] <genii> intelikey: Interesting idea :)
[12:07] <intelikey> yeah, it's a three dimentional closed figure with rectangular sides
[12:07] <Bleep> lol
[12:07] <genii> 1 computer=box           2 computer=boxes    3 or more computers=boxen
[12:08] <intelikey> normally used in irc to denote some computer some where
[12:08] <Bleep> well in my case    laptop eth0     >    adslmodem
[12:08] <genii> ScorpKing: Can I grab a coffee from ya?
[12:09] <genii> ScorpKing: Thanks muchly :)
[12:10] <ScorpKing> Bleep: that link - well, the router will handle all the auth stuff for you. did you have to install anything on xp?
[12:10] <ScorpKing> genii: np :D
[12:11] <Bleep> no
[12:11] <ScorpKing> Bleep: there is no need to use pppd with a router.
[12:11] <Bleep> i just set ip and subnetmask at tcp/ip settings of LAN
[12:11] <intelikey> what's the ip of the router,    make that the "default gateway"    and linux should slip right past it to the web
[12:11] <ScorpKing> Bleep: have you tried manual settings for eth0?
[12:12] <Bleep> yes
[12:13] <ScorpKing> intelikey: 10.0.0.138 is the router ip but for some reason it doesn't work. :(
[12:13] <Bleep> somehow i can visit the modems setting page so im actually 1 step behind
[12:13] <ScorpKing> can or can't?
[12:13] <intelikey> route add default gw 10.0.0.138 eth0
[12:13] <Bleep> i can
[12:13] <reseller> #info
[12:14] <reseller> je voudrais uninfo svp
[12:14] <ScorpKing> intelikey: is there a way to set that in */interfaces?
[12:14] <intelikey> yep.
[12:14] <Bleep> hmm i typed that now in terminal
[12:15] <reseller> ok comment changer la page internet pour metre google
[12:15] <intelikey> ScorpKing      gateway 10.0.0.138
[12:15] <ScorpKing> ok
[12:15] <intelikey> under the interface listing
[12:15] <ScorpKing> Bleep: lets try to do it manually again.
[12:16] <Bleep> ok
[12:16] <Bleep> im in knetworkmanagern now
[12:16] <ScorpKing> Bleep: open /etc/network/interfaces as root.
[12:16] <ScorpKing> Bleep: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[12:17] <Bleep> ok its open as root
[12:17] <ScorpKing> Bleep: iface eth0 inet static
[12:18] <ScorpKing> Bleep: that's under auto eth0
[12:18] <Bleep> there are some entries above
[12:19] <Bleep> auto lo    iface lo inet loopback    address 127.0.0.1    netmask 255.0.0.0
[12:19] <ScorpKing> leave those
[12:19] <Bleep> auto eth0  is below your mentioned row
[12:19] <ScorpKing> start there
[12:20] <ScorpKing> below that put - iface eth0 inet static
[12:20] <ScorpKing> then - address 10.0.0.50
[12:20] <ScorpKing> then - netmask 255.255.255.0
[12:20] <ScorpKing> then - broadcast 10.0.0.254
[12:20] <Bleep> ok
[12:21] <ScorpKing> then - gateway 10.0.0.138
[12:21] <ScorpKing> save it
[12:21] <Bleep> done
[12:21] <ScorpKing> before you go to check...
[12:22] <ScorpKing> run sudo ifdown eth0 then sudo ifup eth0
[12:22] <ScorpKing> check what is the dns in /etc/resolve.conf
[12:22] <ScorpKing> and come back here.
[12:23] <ScorpKing> do that with the cable plugged in
[12:23] <Bleep> oke
[12:23] <Bleep> brb
[12:23] <ScorpKing> :)
[12:25] <ScorpKing> and try to ping the router. ugh
[12:26] <bleep1> im back again ;)
[12:26] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:26] <bleep1> its says: nameserver 10.0.0.138
[12:26] <ScorpKing> ok
[12:26] <ScorpKing> did you try to ping?
[12:27] <ScorpKing> router, google.com and so on?
[12:27] <bleep1> uhm no?
[12:27] <bleep1> brb
[12:27] <bleep1> :P
[12:27] <_2> he didn't see your post on "ping blah"
[12:27] <ScorpKing> :D i know. lol
[12:28] <_2> id's say he's havinf issues playing ping pong this time...
[12:29] <_2> f/g
[12:29] <ScorpKing> he tried quite a while yesterday as well
[12:29] <ScorpKing> i don't get why the router will work in xp but not linux
[12:30] <_2> [ctcp(blah)]  PING
[12:30] <_2> blah: No such nick/channel
[12:30] <genii> _2:  :)
[12:31] <ScorpKing> host not found...
[12:31] <bleep2> back again :P
[12:31] <ScorpKing> and?
[12:31] <genii> ping: unknown host blah
[12:31] <bleep2> when  i ping google.com it says uknown host
[12:31] <ScorpKing> lol @ genii
[12:31] <bleep2> but if i ping 10.0.0.138 its active
[12:31] <_2> genii some one will probably register it now...
[12:31] <genii> Yeah maybe
[12:32] <ScorpKing> bleep2: what is the dns servers under xp?
[12:32] <genii> blah.com is taken tho
[12:32] <bleep2> uh where can i check that?
[12:32] <_2> yeah i thought i knew that
[12:32] <ScorpKing> go to network status
[12:33] <ScorpKing> click on support
[12:33] <ScorpKing> then details
[12:33] <dice14u> hey anyone, I have a new WPC300N for my laptop, I was wondering how to check if one it is working, or two if the slot im pushing into even has drivers
[12:33] <dice14u> i know its a command to check just cant remember it
[12:33] <bleep2> server ip address?
[12:33] <_2> i think i remember pinging blah.com before on one of these idiodicies
[12:33] <ScorpKing> bleep2: dns
[12:34] <_2> dns = domain name server
[12:34] <ScorpKing> bleep2: there should be 2
[12:34] <bleep2> i cant see support tab
[12:34] <ScorpKing> it's the second one
[12:34] <ScorpKing> on top in status
[12:35] <bleep2> its called details
[12:35] <bleep2> theres no dns
[12:35] <ScorpKing> ah, that one then
[12:35] <bleep2> devicetype vpn
[12:35] <ScorpKing> bleep2: run cmd and then ipconfig /all
[12:35] <genii> ipconfig /displaydns
[12:36] <bleep2> aha
[12:36] <bleep2> dns servers :  195.121.1.34     195.121.1.66
[12:36] <ScorpKing> edit /etc/resolve.conf as root
[12:37] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/resolve.conf
[12:37] <bleep2> k
[12:37] <ScorpKing> add nameserver 195.121.1.34 on one line and  nameserver 195.121.1.66 on the next one
[12:37] <ScorpKing> save and try again
[12:38] <genii> remember /etc/resolve.cone is not spelt resolvE.conf
[12:38] <genii> resolv.conf
[12:38] <genii> bah
[12:38] <bleep2> lol i know ;)
[12:38] <ScorpKing> lol.
[12:38] <intelikey> i'm thinking that may get reset... ScorpKing doesn't resolv.conf get set each time ???
[12:38] <bleep2> brb
[12:38] <ScorpKing> bleep2 then edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf as root
[12:39] <intelikey> genii good eye.   i pasted from ScorpKing :)
[12:39] <gerardo> hola algun latino?
[12:39] <intelikey> !it
[12:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:39] <intelikey> !es
[12:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:39] <nrossin> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu Gutsy Beta, then ran the updates, then install my restricted nVidia video driver.  Now my resolution is really funky and I can't change it.  Anyone have any input for me?  (I've already asked in #ubuntu+1 but no one can help)
[12:39] <genii> intelikey: Yes, you are not usually one to make these types of mistakes so I noticed immediately