ubotuNew bug: #147426 in ubuntu "G-key doesn't bring xine's control panel to the foreground" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14742612:16
ubotuNew bug: #147427 in svgatextmode (universe) "gutsy dependency problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14742712:16
ubotuNew bug: #147429 in update-manager (main) "Could not install 'debconf' during System upgrade 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14742912:16
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ubotuNew bug: #147433 in tracker (main) "Unicode equivalences broken in tracker" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14743312:25
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ubotuNew bug: #147435 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 144326)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14743512:30
ubotuNew bug: #147436 in banshee (universe) "banshee-daap lets you try and delete/rename files in other libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14743612:30
ubotuNew bug: #147437 in ubuntu ""Terminal" app constantly wobbles when maximized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14743712:30
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ubotuNew bug: #147440 in lirc (main) "cannot make lirc_i2c kernel module" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744012:37
ubotuNew bug: #147441 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744112:37
ubotuNew bug: #147439 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  ipw3945 roaming is flakey and unstable (regression from feisty fawn)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14743912:38
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ubotuNew bug: #147444 in glibc (main) "dgettext not thread-safe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744412:45
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CarlFKgutsy alternate installer says: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-386/modules.dep: No such file or directory01:25
ubotuNew bug: #147447 in gnome-panel (main) "configure workspace Gutsy beta" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744701:25
ubotuNew bug: #147449 in firefox (main) "Java add-on works less well on Firefox than MSIE." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744901:25
CarlFKand yet if I alt-f2 to the shell I can cat it just fine01:25
macdfor problems wityh gutsy join #ubuntu+1 or file a bug @ http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu01:26
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ubotuNew bug: #147452 in ubuntu "kde (qt) programs should have no shadows enabled (Gutsy Beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745201:40
ubotuNew bug: #147453 in compiz (main) "compiz with mplayer (fullscreen) crashes X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745301:40
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CarlFKhow do I find "bugs reported by me" ?01:51
CarlFKfound it.  of course.01:51
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gnomefreakCarlFK: your LP page :)02:13
CarlFKyeah - I was looking on the bugs page. silly me02:13
gnomefreaktook me 2 months give or take to figure out they were there02:13
CarlFKI go too long between reporting, and so I forget02:14
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CarlFKas long as someone is awake - got any suggestions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/14745602:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147456 in ubuntu "alt-installer: Could not load /lib/.../modules.dep: No such file" [Undecided,New] 02:15
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gnomefreakCarlFK: bad burn bad ISO?02:16
gnomefreakCarlFK: ill look at it now02:16
ubotuNew bug: #147456 in ubuntu "alt-installer: Could not load /lib/.../modules.dep: No such file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745602:16
CarlFKgnomefreak: no disks were burned in the making of this bug02:16
CarlFKI used PXE, but wget/kexec or grub or any other way of booting that kernel will do02:17
gnomefreakwell PXE ive seen alot of bugs on but ive never tried it personall so im not sure about that02:18
CarlFKand the installer should be the same as the alternate CDs02:18
CarlFKthe only difference is where apt looks for repo - local CD or http02:19
ubotuNew bug: #147458 in kopete (main) "Kopete does not connect to Yahoo in live session" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745802:20
ubotuNew bug: #147460 in ubuntu "FAT partitions are mounted with utf-8 encoding by default (Gutsy beta)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746002:25
ubotuNew bug: #147462 in ubuntu "Random Freeze in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746202:41
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ubotuNew bug: #147463 in ubuntu "Booting into tty1 instead of tty7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746302:46
ubotuNew bug: #147464 in ubuntu "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746402:46
ubotuNew bug: #147465 in ubuntu "Installing software from two disks, CD tray won't open" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746502:46
ubotuNew bug: #147469 in ubuntu "cannot eject the usb memory card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746902:59
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ubotuNew bug: #147468 in ubuntu "installation freeze when download packages of repositories" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746803:02
ubotuNew bug: #147471 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "screen flickers & wobbles rapidly in from the side toward the center. Turning monitor off & on again stabilizes it for about 60 secs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14747103:10
ubotuNew bug: #147472 in ubuntu "Acer Aspire 5100 volume keys don't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14747203:15
ubotuNew bug: #147473 in gimp (main) "gimp-2.4 crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14747303:20
ubotuNew bug: #147474 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Can't upload files to flash website" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14747403:20
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ubotuNew bug: #147478 in thunar-volman (universe) "package thunar-volman 0.1.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14747804:00
ubotuNew bug: #147480 in hwdb-client (main) "package hwdb-client-common 0.6.11 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748004:00
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ubotuNew bug: #147484 in ubuntu "No Easy Way to record Video" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748404:15
ubotuNew bug: #147485 in gnome-games (main) "robots quitting when 'super safe moves' is enabled." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748504:15
ubotuNew bug: #147486 in tracker (main) "Tracker doesn't honor ignored file pattern" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748604:20
ubotuNew bug: #147487 in ubuntu "No way to play Nintendo 64 roms in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748704:21
ubotuNew bug: #147490 in console-cyrillic (universe) "package console-cyrillic 0.9-15 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou cdigo de sada de error 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749004:26
ubotuNew bug: #147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749104:31
ubotuNew bug: #147493 in ubuntu "Ardour, Jack, Password Nightmares." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749304:31
ubotuNew bug: #147494 in ubuntu "Update Manager Breaking Random Stuff" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749404:45
ubotuNew bug: #147495 in ubuntu "(Gutsy?) Gnome keyboard layout switcher (Dvorak->Qwerty) not fully monotonic (fails on ^D, ^E)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749504:55
ubotuNew bug: #147496 in democracyplayer (universe) "Wrapper breaks adding channels outside miro" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749604:55
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ubotuNew bug: #147499 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[7.10] dosen't suspend after close lid, suspend from menu works well" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749905:16
ubotuNew bug: #147500 in ubuntu "volume while using snd_usb_audio goes down to 40% when you change the volume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750005:16
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ubotuNew bug: #147503 in xcompmgr (universe) "xcompmgr freezes system log out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750305:26
RAOFWow.  Someone's still using xcompmgr.05:28
ubotuNew bug: #147504 in ubuntu "If NTFS Partition fails to mount; you log in and out repeatedly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750405:30
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ubotuNew bug: #147505 in helix-player (universe) "helix plugin not loaded by firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750505:50
ubotuNew bug: #147506 in evolution (main) "Gutsy: Autocomplete fails for multiple addressees" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750606:00
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ubotuNew bug: #147507 in helix-player (universe) "helix plugin not working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750706:05
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MblackwellI already reported it but I wanted to (if anyone is awake) double check on this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464 since it causes a system freeze doing a relatively normal task. If there's an easy way to trace it (for instance a certain log) I can attach it.06:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147464 in ubuntu "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New] 06:24
ubotuNew bug: #147508 in dkms (universe) "package dkms [modified: usr/sbin/dkms usr/share/man/man8/dkms.8.gz]  failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750806:26
Hobbseeuh, what now?06:28
MblackwellIf I run a torrent file, or transfer something over the network (note it's wireless) after a period of time of high bandwidth usage the entire system well freeze06:29
MblackwellThis afternoon I was able to scrape by at least 2 hours of activity of this kind, but normally it's 15 minutes or less.06:30
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Hobbseesorry, the response was to 14750806:30
MblackwellI thought apport stopped reporting of non-ubuntu packages06:32
Hobbseeit doesnt, unfortunately06:32
Hobbseealthough if you're using automatix, ti'll refuse to report.06:32
Hobbseeor envy, iirc.06:32
Hobbseeor maybe that's only the upgrader06:32
Hobbsee  * Add general-hooks/automatix.py: Refuse to send problem reports if06:32
Hobbsee    automatix is installed.06:32
Hobbseejust automatix, then.06:33
MblackwellIf Automatix in general is installed or just applications install with automatix?06:33
Hobbseeno, if automatix is installed, we throw all of it out06:34
Hobbseebecause automatix breaks more than just the particular packages it installs.06:34
MblackwellI thought it did that with automatix, but not automatix 2 which just installs from the repositories06:35
Hobbseeand it's not worth attempting to try and track down a bug, and then find that it's automatix that's caused it - we've got enough users and enough bugs that someone else who *isnt* using automatix will report it, if it's a problem.06:35
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)06:35
Hobbseeread the analysis, ti's quite illuminating.06:35
ubotuNew bug: #147509 in ubuntu "regression: kernel 2.6.20-16-generic upgrade makes computer noisy from early stages in boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14750906:35
Hobbseethat was done on automatix206:35
MblackwellAnyway, #147464 is the most aggravating bug I swear.06:36
MblackwellI can't even think of where I would look to trace it back06:37
HobbseeMblackwell: common activities?  possibly not on nfs...06:39
HobbseeMblackwell: does it happen on non-nfs file systems?06:39
Mblackwelli'm downloading the torrents to an EXT306:39
Mblackwellother users report the same problem on NFS network transfers (with or without torrents)06:40
Mblackwelland there's on bug that I can't remember the name of that was dropped that reports it on SMB share06:40
Hobbseeoh right, so the torrent part is likely irrelevant06:40
Mblackwellerm, not name, number06:40
Mblackwellexactly, it's just a good indicator of high and rapid bandwidth consumption06:41
Mblackwellbeing a cause06:41
MblackwellAnd a good way to test as well, since I can just crank up a few torrents and get my system to freeze ;)06:42
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Mblackwellwhy nfs-utils?06:44
Jordan_UIs it even worth reporting bugs that are not reproducible? ( or rather, I cannot replicate the conditions that cause it on other installs but I can consistently reproduce it on mine )06:44
HobbseeMblackwell: general guess at a nfs package06:45
HobbseeJordan_U: unlikely.  depends if you can track down what it's from on your system.06:46
MblackwellYes, but as I said it occurs when downloading to an EXT3 partition, so nfs wouldn't be invoked06:46
HobbseeJordan_U: if you have a stack trace, perhaps06:46
HobbseeMblackwell: ah, i thought you said that it didnt occur06:46
MblackwellNo, I was saying yes it does occur since I'm downloading to ext306:47
MblackwellI think all other people who reported the problem also had wireless networks06:47
Mblackwellthere's 3 threads about it on the gutsy dev forum06:48
Mblackwell(which is how I figured out it wasn't just the torrents)06:49
Hobbseeyou may actually want to mention all this on the bug report.06:55
Mblackwelladding info now06:59
RAOFUrgh, I've released a monster: bug #147491 (and a couple of others)07:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749107:03
Mblackwellwow my typing is especially horrible tonight07:03
HobbseeRAOF: haha.  what'd you have to do with that?07:03
MblackwellRAOF: AMSN? Ha, although I really wish Pidgin did have all of that07:04
MblackwellI seriously miss voice chat and voice clip sending, being a musician who talks to other musicians07:04
RAOFHobbsee: I read the initial bug, which was a big rant, and pointed him to the bugfiling stuff on the wiki, and that we really can only handle one bug per report.07:05
HobbseeRAOF: ugh.  replied on the bug, btw07:05
HobbseeRAOF: you might point him to the forums.  *evil grin*07:05
ajmitchoh dear07:06
ubotuNew bug: #147515 in ubuntu "gutsy: playing video, probably fglrx related" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14751507:06
MblackwellI don't know why he'd bother posting the bug on the ubuntu launchpad07:06
Mblackwellinstead of to pidgin07:06
RAOFHobbsee: He's also posted on the forums, and I've replied a bit there too.07:06
Hobbseeah yes, some nice crappy bugs.07:06
MblackwellHow could you allow that? :O07:06
RAOFMainly that the way he writes his bugs is offensive.07:06
ajmitchHobbsee: nice reply to bug 14749107:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749107:06
Hobbseeajmitch: indeed.07:07
HobbseeRAOF: can we just close it, based on that?07:07
RAOFActually, that's almost precisely what Telepathy is meant to do.07:07
MblackwellThey invented that?07:08
RAOFThere's even a totally alpha client where all that (kinda) works (apparently).07:08
Mblackwellthey'll win a nobel prize07:08
ajmitcheven better, the telepathy guys handed out free tshirts at uds in mt view07:08
RAOFMblackwell: I think the idea is that it's a problem in Ubuntu, and we are deluding ourselves that we're good enough for him.07:09
ajmitchthat wins them points in my book07:09
RAOFajmitch: Coool.07:09
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MblackwellRAOF: I remember a year or so ago the Gaim folks talking about adding those things and then suddenly we had a freeze and next thing you know... Pidgin! ... with none of those features.07:10
ajmitchbut you're at uni, you have holidays year round07:10
HobbseeRAOF: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/14748407:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147484 in ubuntu "No Easy Way to record Video" [Undecided,Invalid] 07:10
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RAOFHobbsee: Thank you.  It felt a bit awkward, me saying "please file bugs", then going around and saying "no, not like that!" :/07:10
ajmitchHobbsee: harsh reply07:11
ajmitchnext thing you know, that bug will end up on slashdot07:11
ajmitchlike the debian tzdata bug did07:11
RAOFMblackwell: Yeah.  There was kinda voip support.  Where's that gone, anyway?07:12
RAOFHe actually *does* have some bugs to report, too.  I'm not sure if he's actually filed any of his bugs, though.07:12
MblackwellRAOF: I don't know, but I've had to use AMSN and Skype and it bites because I like to keep my logs all in one place.07:12
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Hobbseeright.  done.07:13
RAOFIt's a pity we can't get the same quality as skype in ekiga et al.  Stupid patents.07:13
Hobbseealthough, it'd be nice if skype could go in commercial.07:14
MblackwellSo if anyone can think of a method to trace bug 147464 I'll go ahead and crash my machine07:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147464 in nfs-utils "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746407:14
RAOFMblackwell: I don't suppose you can reproduce that on a non-rt kernel?07:14
ubotuNew bug: #147516 in gnome-app-install (main) "package gnome-app-install 0.4.10-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: sistema de ficheros del archivo tar da?ado - archivo de paquete da?ado" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14751607:15
ubotuNew bug: #147517 in ubuntu "ipw3945 driver missing from non-generic kernel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14751707:15
MblackwellI can attempt to07:15
RAOFIt looks like it should be easy enough to reproduce, if it can be?07:15
Mblackwellshould be simple07:15
MblackwellI'm just going to edit xorg.conf to boot with nv though, so I don't have to go through a whole hassle07:16
Mblackwellso it will be a few minutes before I can check07:16
RAOFI'm not going to be able to do anything with the knowledge, anyway, but the kernel team should :)07:17
Mblackwellback in a mo07:17
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Mblackwelland now comes the fun part07:21
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Mblackwellyay I found a bug I think in Deluge, ah well07:29
Mblackwellit's unrelated07:29
ubotuNew bug: #147520 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa 0.43-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752007:30
RAOFWouldn't surprise me.  Libboost-python FTL.07:31
Mblackwellbtw, what's this issue with the libbluetooth or whatever it's called again stuff and gstreamer that I keep seeing pop up?07:31
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MblackwellI'm an idiot, I just updated07:33
Mblackwelland while I was updating I realized if my computer froze I could be completely screwed depending on where the update was07:34
HobbseeMblackwell: libkbluetooth0?07:34
Mblackwellyeah I believe that's it07:35
Hobbseei fixed that, a couple of days ago07:35
Mblackwellit causes a crash in track-extractor and possibly rhythmbox07:35
Mblackwellah okay07:35
Hobbseebluetooth has nothing to do with rhythmbox and such, i expect?07:35
Hobbseealthough it's broken beyond belief anyway07:35
Mblackwellit happens in gstreamer07:35
Mblackwellbut somehow involves that07:36
Mblackwellalthough if you active the MTP plugin in rhythmbox you basically break it07:36
Mblackwellit won't display, although it will run as a process07:36
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Mblackwell(speaking of things being broken beyond belief)07:37
MblackwellI don't know if it's reported... maybe I should report it07:37
MblackwellRAOF: Deluge just magicrashed on me right around the 15 minute mark... hmm07:38
MblackwellYou know.... magicrash.... where the program just mysteriously disappears07:38
DarkMageZMblackwell, apport should appear within a minute to allow you to report it.07:39
MblackwellYou would think so, but it didn't.07:39
DarkMageZsee if there's a crash file in /var/crash/ for it07:40
RAOFMblackwell: Has it been pushed behind the desktop window?  Compiz has a bad habit of pushing WoW behind the desktop for me.07:40
MblackwellI told you I was booting with nv :)07:41
Mblackwellno compiz07:41
MblackwellGranted, I can't expect everyone to remember everything all of the time07:41
MblackwellAlthough wouldn't that be great?07:41
RAOFNah, our heads would explode.07:41
MblackwellYeah but you'd never have to look up a command again because you'd remember them all! Gosh I've been making Duke3D mods for years and I still have to look things up.07:42
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RAOFI can't wait until neural implants come out.  Come on sci-fi, you can't have been lying to me all this time!07:43
MblackwellI still want my damned hover car07:44
Mblackwellit's no the future until we have them07:44
RAOFAlso, then I wouldn't have to mark these frikkin row reductions!07:44
Mblackwelland I refuse to die until I get one07:44
MblackwellDarkMageZ: There is a report, but it can't be reported and I remembered why07:45
Mblackwellbecause I'm using the update from the website, since I was trying to see if Deluge was the issue when I ran into bug 14746407:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147464 in nfs-utils "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746407:46
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dholbachgood morning07:48
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Mblackwellbecause if it happens everywhere it will get fixed faster..... maybe07:52
RAOFOr if it's only in -rt that narrows the cause down.07:52
MblackwellThis is true, unless.... oh wouldn't that be some weird horrible irony07:53
Mblackwellif there was some correlation with Compiz07:54
Mblackwellsince technically I have it turned off07:54
RAOFIt's totally not going to be compiz's fault.07:54
MblackwellI have NO IDEA how that would be possible, but compiz can be a sonofabitch07:54
RAOFIt *may* be nvidia's fault, and then you're boned.07:54
Mblackwella baby killing sob07:54
RAOFBinary blobs for the win!07:54
RAOFAs long as you don't want your kernel problem fixed, that is :/07:55
MblackwellI know someone on the Nvidia driver team07:55
Mblackwellthey were quite upset when xorg suddenly changed the ABI07:55
RAOFRelease the damn specs already.07:55
RAOFWe'll write a driver *for* you!07:55
RAOFAnd a simple rebuild will fix everything!07:56
MblackwellYeah but, then again that hasn't helped ATI07:56
MblackwellAll the ATI drivers still suck o_007:57
RAOFTheir r300s have pretty reasonable support, the r200s more so.07:57
RAOFAlso, *they've* released their specs, and apparently nvidia hardware is just easier to write for.07:57
RAOFSo we'd probably get a better driver faster :)07:57
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RAOFThis is what I hear from #nouveau, at least.07:58
MblackwellI think they're more scared of ATI copying tech, but then again ATI is a silly silly company sometimes when it comes to graphics cards. Like the whole 24bit shaders instead of the full 32bit. But hey it got them better Half Life 2 performance am I right?07:58
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RAOFWhy not :)07:59
RAOFIt can't be *that* easy to go from specs to working silicon, though?08:00
MblackwellI couldn't say08:01
RAOFMy vast and intimate knowledge of CMOS technology tells me "no"08:01
MblackwellI would imagine it's not though08:01
MblackwellI guess I never really bothered to think badly of Nvidia though because at least they seem to care. On the other hand those damned wireless card manufacturers....08:02
RAOF*Really* don't care.08:02
RAOFExcept for intel.08:02
RAOFYay intel!08:03
MblackwellI'm really concerned about buying a laptop now, because I want to not feel ripped off but I want Ubuntu to work on it... and they won't let you boot a live cd.... I tried... they told me no :(08:03
RAOFWhat?  Really?08:03
Mblackwell(at Best Buy)08:03
RAOFGo somewhere else.08:03
RAOFAnyway, the more intel stuff in there, the more likely it is to just work(tm) :)08:04
RAOFThis is my laptop buying strategy.08:04
MblackwellIt really doesn't need to be great, but I want it to be good. I figured I would throw Ubuntu on it and then use this desktop as an XP gaming machine and a place to plug in external HDD's and act as a fileserver08:04
MblackwellAnd then I could actually sit on the damned COUCH while I do things like this08:05
Mblackwellwouldn't that just be peachy?08:05
Mblackwellthe only thing is that I have my desktop set up just so and I don't want to have to re-set it up08:06
Mblackwellis there a way I can important my panel and appearance settings?08:06
RAOFrsync old.host:/home/username /home/ :)08:06
RAOFJust copy across the user directory.  All your setup will be preserved.08:07
Mblackwellalso, unless this thing hangs in the next hour it's probably the rt kernel08:07
Mblackwellalthough the fact that other users reported it.... I figure they aren't using the rt kernel08:08
RAOFMaybe you should try rt without nvidia.08:08
MblackwellI only grabbed it to attempt to see if audio applications performed better08:08
MblackwellI could do that08:08
RAOFWouldn't *that* be fun.08:08
MblackwellI'm not sure why Nvidia would be a crash inducer though08:09
Mblackwellin that circumstance at least08:09
Mblackwellah ha08:09
Mblackwelldeluge crashed08:09
RAOFBecause its kernel module can clobber *any* piece of memory on your system?  Or starve something of interrupts, or...?08:09
RAOFNice hardlock?08:10
Mblackwellnaw, magicrash08:10
MblackwellI'm going to try again, this time using the official repo version so that the crash can be reported08:13
Hobbseebug #14687008:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 146870 in kdelibs "konqueror URL bar spoofing" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14687008:15
MblackwellRAOF: totally unrelated, but: http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop20070822002ln0.png08:15
Mblackwellthat took way too long to want to redo08:15
Mblackwellso it seems like with the non-rt kernel I keep getting magicrashes but no system hangs08:23
MblackwellI'm going to boot into the rt kernel with no nvidia and see what happens, if there's a similar result08:23
ubotuNew bug: #147524 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Windows no longer on Grub list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752408:25
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Hobbsee"i didn't bother to read the file, so put my changes in where it says "this gets autowritten each update", and then, lo and behold, my changes are gone!08:29
Hobbseeshock!  horror!08:29
Mblackwellhas it been flagged anywhere the synaptic should sync with installed firefox extensions if possible?08:35
ubotuNew bug: #147526 in ubuntu "firefox error al guardar un archivo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752608:35
HobbseeMblackwell: uh, what?08:37
Mblackwellfor instance08:38
MblackwellI have Adblock already installed08:38
Mblackwelland have for years08:38
Mblackwellsynaptic doesn't know that08:38
Mblackwellit presents it as an installation candidate08:39
Hobbseeoh, i see.08:39
Mblackwelluh oh08:41
Mblackwellazureus closes when I open it08:42
Mblackwell# Problematic frame:08:45
Mblackwell# C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0xb74b] 08:45
MblackwellWondering if this is like, an actual bug or I fucked something up. Heh.08:46
ubotuNew bug: #147527 in liferea (main) "Version in Gutsy beta 1 updates all feeds continuously" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752709:00
RAOFHey, that one's been fixed!09:02
RAOFThat liferea bug.  Fixed in latest upload :)09:04
ubotuNew bug: #147528 in openoffice.org (main) "text processor suspectily made error when copying content between documents with unwished (some previous ctrl+c)  items inserted." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752809:07
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MblackwellRAOF: No system hangs or network freezes so far with Nv instead of Nvidia09:17
Mblackwellalthough Deluge likes to close from time to time09:17
RAOFMblackwell: That's pretty much the worst possible outcome.  In -rt, too? :(09:17
MblackwellI'm in RT now09:18
RAOFSo, in short, nvidia sucks?09:18
Mblackwelljust to see I started copying a 5 gig file over the network to an nfs share09:18
Mblackwellwhile downloading torrents09:18
Mblackwellno crash so far09:18
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Mblackwellcopying the 5 gigs is really slow though (even without the torrents going)09:19
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MblackwellAH HA!09:26
MblackwellTHANK GOD09:26
MblackwellI got it to crash09:26
Mblackwellso it's no Nvidia09:26
MblackwellNow I'm booted into Generic and I'm going to try the same thing09:27
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kagougood morning09:41
ubotuNew bug: #147540 in libgsf (main) "Should recommend installing imagemagick" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754009:45
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ubotuNew bug: #147542 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 144326)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754210:01
ubotuNew bug: #147543 in python-unit (main) "unittestgui cannot find test modules when in current-working directory. [Patch included!] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754310:01
ubotuNew bug: #147545 in buildbot (universe) "package buildbot None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754510:01
ubotuNew bug: #147546 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox doesn't build-depend on intltool, does not update its translation template" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754610:01
ubotuNew bug: #147547 in ubuntu "Gutsy Beta Installation Problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754710:01
ubotuNew bug: #147548 in ubiquity (main) "hangs if specific usb-drive is present" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14754810:05
ubotuNew bug: #147550 in serpentine (main) "[gutsy]  serpentine should build-depend on intltool, doesn't update the translation template" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14755010:05
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MblackwellRAOF: Okay, so it happens in both kernels10:18
Mblackwelland without nvidia10:18
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ubotuNew bug: #147552 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14755210:31
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ubotuNew bug: #147555 in gobby (universe) "Test bug -- please ignore" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14755510:40
ubotuNew bug: #147557 in ubuntu "ubuntu server 7.10 beta amd64 network card dectection problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14755710:40
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ubotuNew bug: #147587 in ubuntu "grub menu.lst update in gutsy make lvm unbootable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14758711:21
ubotuNew bug: #147589 in miro (universe) "Miro fails to play films when using default renderer (gstreamer works OK)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14758911:26
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ubotuNew bug: #147602 in ndisgtk (universe) "Swedish translation for ndisgtk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14760212:11
ubotuNew bug: #147603 in ubuntustudio-menu (universe) "ubuntustudio-menu 0.5 main menu shows only Places and System other entries of the menu are not available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14760312:16
ubotuNew bug: #147604 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[gusty]  Thinkpad T60p Display brightness don't be modified (regression)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14760412:20
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ubotuNew bug: #147606 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Intelfb completely b0rken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14760612:26
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ubotuNew bug: #147609 in cupsys (main) "jetdirect printer prints only the first page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14760912:35
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ubotuNew bug: #147613 in boinc (universe) "boinc_cmd --lookup_account doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14761312:45
ubotuNew bug: #147614 in ubuntu "Ubuntu can't know some Graphics , for example  Intel(R)82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14761412:51
ubotuNew bug: #147616 in ubuntu "[GUTSY]  amarok not recognising multimedia keys" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14761612:51
ubotuNew bug: #147617 in grub (main) "Dual boot with Gutsy Gibbon BETA and WinXP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14761701:01
ubotuNew bug: #147618 in kdebase (main) "[gutsy]  kdm looks for an inexistant /etc/default/locale" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14761801:01
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ubotuNew bug: #147621 in teamspeak-client (multiverse) "TeamSpeak doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762101:15
ubotuNew bug: #147622 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashes when beagle-live backend is enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762201:15
ubotuNew bug: #141573 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in glGetString()" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14157301:20
ubotuNew bug: #147623 in usplash (main) "[EM64T] [gutsy beta]  When booting gutsy, screen stays black." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762301:20
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ubotuNew bug: #147627 in ubuntu "gtk+ file open dialog insists on using (and launches) trackerd even if beagled is running" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762701:35
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ubotuNew bug: #147630 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "warning/error when opening javadoc man page" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763001:45
ubotuNew bug: #147632 in stardict (universe) "Uable to put my mouse on the floating windows in Stardic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763201:46
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ubotuNew bug: #147634 in gedit-plugins (universe) "[gutsy]  External Tools plugin does not save keybindings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763401:56
ubotuNew bug: #147635 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati (main) "Blank screen on Samsung P35 laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763501:56
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ubotuNew bug: #147636 in pidgin (main) "[Gutsy]  Strage list behavior in Add buddy->New person dialog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763602:00
ubotuNew bug: #147639 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "Errors in attansic L2 "atl2"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763902:05
ubotuNew bug: #147637 in ubuntu "Gutsy QT dropdowns flicker on mouseover" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763702:06
ubotuNew bug: #147638 in eog (main) "[Gutsy]  Some strings can't be translated. Maybe eog must build-dep on intltool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763802:06
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ubotuNew bug: #147640 in subversion (main) "SIGSEGV with subversion 1.4.4dfsg1-1ubuntu3 on BDB" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764002:10
ubotuNew bug: #147641 in update-manager (main) "E:Fel, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve genererade avbrott; detta kan bero p tillbakahllna paket.'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764102:15
ubotuNew bug: #147642 in ubuntu "KDE shutdown dialog only has logout button" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764202:15
ubotuNew bug: #147307 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with ValueError in set_widget_value()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14730702:21
ubotuNew bug: #147450 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with IndexError in connect()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745002:21
ubotuNew bug: #147000 in eog (main) "eog crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_vfs_mime_get_description()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14700002:26
ubotuNew bug: #147643 in kaffeine (main) "Multichannel audio is broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764302:26
ubotuNew bug: #144592 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14459202:33
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ubotuNew bug: #146925 in system-config-printer (main) "printing applet crashes on closing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14692502:33
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ubotuNew bug: #140910 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer.py crashed with TypeError in fillPrinterTab()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14091002:36
ubotuNew bug: #146810 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14681002:36
ubotuNew bug: #147644 in ubuntu "wine windows emulator dissapeared after update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764402:43
ubotuNew bug: #147645 in base-installer (main) "Ubuntu Studio Gutsy disk displays incorrect tasksel options" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764502:43
ubotuNew bug: #147646 in base-installer (main) "Ubuntu Studio Gutsy installation fails." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764602:49
ubotuNew bug: #147647 in nessus-plugins (main) "nessus-update-plugins fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764702:50
ubotuNew bug: #147648 in compiz (main) "no keyboard input if compiz is running" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764802:55
ubotuNew bug: #147649 in rhythmbox (main) "gutsy: rhythmbox visualization kills X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14764903:00
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ubotuNew bug: #147651 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice crash on ppt export" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765103:05
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ubotuNew bug: #147653 in tilda (universe) "Tilda isn't shown correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765303:15
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ubotuNew bug: #147654 in azureus (universe) "Azureus crash on 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765403:26
ubotuNew bug: #147655 in ubuntu "User cannot mount automatically ntfs external drive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765503:26
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JimQodeHello. Could somebody please set the importance on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/12322203:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123222 in xorg "[GUTSY]  GUI fails when running in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed] 03:26
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JimQodeI believe it is pretty important and it has been lying there without anyone noticing since first tribe03:27
HobbseeJimQode: are the VBoxVideo. drivers open sourced?03:30
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JimQodeHobbsee, I have no idea. but xorg is :)03:30
ubotuNew bug: #147656 in compiz (main) "Desktop freeze on starting Wesnoth" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765603:31
ubotuNew bug: #147657 in xdg-user-dirs (main) "xdg-user-dirs translations not always available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765703:31
HobbseeJimQode: i realise that, but if VBoxVideo si something the virtualbox guys have done, and isnt even in ubuntu, you might do well to go to virtualbox for support.03:31
Hobbseeespecially if we cant see the source, which i suspect we cant, if it's the guest addon.03:31
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Hobbsee(which isnt in the ose edition)03:32
ogramy vbox works fine here03:32
Hobbseeogra: yes, but you're not using the guest addon stuff, are you?03:32
Hobbseeogra: that's why03:32
ograonly the standard package03:32
ograah, right03:32
JimQodeHobbsee, are you sure this is a vbox problem? same guest additions work fine on fedora03:32
HobbseeJimQode: in the grand scale of things, it's of low importance, as it's easy not to use the addon.03:32
HobbseeJimQode: nope, i'm not.03:33
Hobbseei'm not an xorg person, nor have i seen the source code and such.03:33
JimQodeHobbsee, ok, but still someone should put an importance on the report. Even if it is a low importance.03:33
HobbseeJimQode: as you wish.03:34
ograthe log output isnt very helpful03:34
ograits missing the intresting parts :)03:34
ograsounds a bit like related to http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/356 or http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=43603:37
JimQodeogra, hmm ogra. thanks for the pointer03:40
JimQodeit seems to be fixed upstream03:40
JimQodesomeone needs to repackage it then03:40
ograwell, not sure, they say its fixed in 1.4.203:40
JimQodethey say it runs with svn version03:41
ograi use 1.5 here ...03:41
ograwhats your current version ?03:42
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ograupdate then :=03:45
JimQodeogra, does it run with 1.5?03:47
ograno idea, as i said above i use the plain package, no addons03:47
ograwith that it works03:47
JimQodeogra, did you install the normal installer version? apt-repos have 1.4.0 as the latest version03:51
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HobbseeJimQode: gutsy has 1.5.003:56
ograi usually pull it from the website with gdebi03:56
Hobbseeogra: it is in gutsy now, you know :)03:57
ograwasnt aware its in the repos even :)03:57
Hobbseeogra: it's only been put in recently03:57
Hobbseedebian did ti03:57
Hobbseeogra: doesnt quite "just work" though03:57
ograwell, the gdebi one does ... always (else i couldnt do thin client testing while travelling :) )03:58
Hobbseeoh erk.  it doesnt actually work at all03:58
Hobbseeyou cant do the module setup stuff03:58
ograbut admittedly i use a slightly special setup for thn client stuff03:58
Hobbseeogra: i prefer to use the debian repo for it (On their site) - saves gdebi03:58
ubotuNew bug: #147661 in ubuntu "Installation in Spanish ubuntu 7.10 beta" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766103:59
ograah, well ... i dont like foreign reops in my sources.list :)03:59
Hobbseeogra: that's a point03:59
ubotuNew bug: #147317 in upstart "Failure to Unmount Local Filesystems (dup-of: 125702)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14731704:00
ubotuNew bug: #147659 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Compiz breaks the ability to scroll the currently focused window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765904:00
ubotuNew bug: #147660 in j2se1.4-amd64 (multiverse) "Java Run Time installation crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766004:00
ubotuNew bug: #147658 in linuxdcpp (universe) "Uncomplete installation of Linuxdcpp for Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14765804:01
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gnudoci'm doing a bit of bug triaging in launchpad for the first time - if i can confirm that a "fixed elsewhere" bug really is fixed in a current install of gutsy, and that ubuntu uses a version of the upstream package which includes the fix, then what do i do? do i change the status from confirmed to fix committed?04:11
Hobbseegnudoc: then you change it to fix released - ie, it's fixed in ubuntu.04:13
gnudocHobbsee: great - thanks!04:14
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ubotuNew bug: #147670 in evince (main) "bad thumnaild and printed version for some pdf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767004:15
ubotuNew bug: #147513 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in ORBit_small_get_servant() (dup-of: 83432)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14751304:16
ubotuNew bug: #147523 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14752304:16
ubotuNew bug: #147582 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_style_get_valist()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14758204:16
ubotuNew bug: #147620 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_ref()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762004:16
ubotuNew bug: #147626 in gtkhtml3.14 "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14762604:16
ubotuNew bug: #147671 in ubuntu "Auto update cannot update "ubuntu-desktop"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767104:16
ubotuNew bug: #147672 in wammu (universe) "Too old version" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767204:16
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ubotuNew bug: #147631 in epiphany-browser "epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14763104:17
ubotuNew bug: #147664 in ubuntu "Gimp 2.4 RC3 requires gimp data to match... Gimp data is RC2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766404:17
ubotuNew bug: #147665 in ubuntu "during installation (alternate CD), framebuffer resolution is not detected corectly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766504:17
ubotuNew bug: #147667 in kdebase (main) "[Gutsy]  Konqueror right-click menu says "paste URL" instead of "paste File"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766704:17
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ubotuNew bug: #147674 in samba (main) "Samba fails to detect workgroup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767404:20
ubotuNew bug: #147466 in libwnck "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14746604:25
ubotuNew bug: #147181 in totem (main) "totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV in totem_scrsaver_set_state() (dup-of: 144702)" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14718104:30
ubotuNew bug: #147332 in mpeg2dec (universe) "totem crashed with SIGSEGV in mpeg2_slice() (dup-of: 86767)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14733204:30
ubotuNew bug: #147677 in openoffice.org2 (main) "[gutsy]  Broken; "Format cell" in OO.org Calc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767704:30
ubotuNew bug: #147679 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "X crashes with fglrx drivers for ATI Radeon X1600" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767904:30
ubotuNew bug: #147668 in yelp (main) "No way to browse applications' manuals" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14766804:32
ubotuNew bug: #146840 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in groupHandleChanges()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14684004:35
ubotuNew bug: #147265 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_remove_all()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14726504:35
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ubotuNew bug: #147108 in gimp "gimp-2.4 crashed with SIGSEGV in tile_release()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14710804:40
ubotuNew bug: #147685 in ubuntu "Please sponsor helloo 2.2-2~ppa2" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768504:41
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ubotuNew bug: #147039 in yelp (main) "yelp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14703904:46
ubotuNew bug: #147056 in evolution "Evolution crashes when adding second calendar" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14705604:46
ubotuNew bug: #147686 in ubuntu "Please sponsor helloo 2.2-2~ppa4" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768604:46
ubotuNew bug: #146965 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_create_instance()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14696504:51
ubotuNew bug: #147112 in libmms (universe) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14711204:51
ubotuNew bug: #147687 in spca5xx (universe) "Genius VideoCAM messenger dont work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768704:51
ubotuNew bug: #147690 in xdg-user-dirs (main) "xdg-user-dirs: XDG user directories not recongnized after moving $HOME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769004:55
ubotuNew bug: #147246 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14724604:56
ubotuNew bug: #147673 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in ifilter_bank()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14767304:56
ubotuNew bug: #147688 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "wrong md5sum" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768804:56
ubotuNew bug: #147689 in scim (main) "input for applications freezes with scim" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768904:56
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ubotuNew bug: #146835 in poppler (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV in Catalog::embeddedFile()" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14683505:02
ubotuNew bug: #147247 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend.real crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::activate_signal()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14724705:02
ubotuNew bug: #147488 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14748805:05
ubotuNew bug: #147691 in ubuntu "(Gutsy) Must click on the Desktop to see Gnome panels after logging in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769105:05
ubotuNew bug: #147414 in alacarte "alacarte crashed with AttributeError in split()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14741405:10
ubotuNew bug: #147692 in rhythmbox "Some tracks have cracking" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769205:10
ubotuNew bug: #147694 in gnome-panel (main) "could not get my bluetooth to work with my laptop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769405:10
ubotuNew bug: #147696 in kdebase (main) "updateing 105 files crashed in middle (KDE)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769605:10
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ubotuNew bug: #147697 in gnome-panel (main) "Trying to run "Screens and Graphics" but applicaton crashes without displaying anything" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769705:15
ubotuNew bug: #147192 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (universe) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in window_grouping_info()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14719205:20
ubotuNew bug: #147699 in gnome-panel (main) "lost the ability to define how many desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14769905:20
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ubotuNew bug: #147700 in compiz (main) "On login the bottom taskbar is invisible. (dup-of: 147070)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770005:25
ubotuNew bug: #147702 in ubuntu "Screen-light manager thing broken in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770205:25
gnomefreakmvo_: i have people trying to get me logs of envy enabled feisty > gutsy upgrades but noone seems to be doing it now :( i would really like u-m to remove envy and any modules it built nvidia.sh or whatever it is has to build its own restricted-modules for kernel and they dont get removed with upgrade afaik05:28
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mvo_gnomefreak: I looked into the envy upgrade issue last week and I think I have a fix (that will make it into the archive today). do all those people run envy with nvidida? or also with fglrx?05:29
gnomefreakmvo_: i think envy is nvidia only but i never looked that deep into it05:30
gnomefreakbut yes most if not all had nvidia05:30
ubotuNew bug: #147703 in hplip (main) "package hplip 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770305:31
ubotuNew bug: #147704 in gnome-keyring (main) "libpam-gnome-keyring should Replace libpam-keyring" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770405:31
ubotuNew bug: #147705 in pygobject (main) "should have a build-depends on python-gobject-doc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770505:31
gnomefreakit is ati as well05:31
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gnomefreakWARNING: you will have to remove the driver you installed with Envy before upgrading Debian or Ubuntu to a newer release (e.g. upgrading Ubuntu Edgy to Ubuntu Feisty or Debian Etch to Debian Lenny)05:32
gnomefreaklol its on the homepage05:32
mvo_gnomefreak: that, I have not had a chance yet to test it with ati, but I think nvidia should be ok05:32
mvo_gnomefreak: the whole thing is not ideal really :/05:32
gnomefreakok cool05:33
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gnomefreakyour right but envy came out it was like automatix everyone had to have it until systems went bad05:34
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gnomefreakTBH sudo apt-get install IMHO is much easier than downloading envy and running the installer05:34
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ubotuNew bug: #147054 in tracker (main) "tracker-status crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14705405:41
ubotuNew bug: #147707 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Driver and firmware for Afatech AF9005-based DVB sticks missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14770705:41
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ubotuNew bug: #146915 in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg "totem crashed with SIGSEGV in hl_decode_mb()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14691505:46
ubotuNew bug: #147348 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in strstr()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14734805:46
ubotuNew bug: #147710 in evolution (main) "Evolution does not recognize daylight saving time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771005:50
ubotuNew bug: #147243 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14724305:51
ubotuNew bug: #147454 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in sqlite3Put4byte()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14745405:51
ubotuNew bug: #147713 in ubuntu "[Feisty]   X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771305:55
ubotuNew bug: #147714 in fretsonfire (universe) "FretsOnFire.py crashed with RuntimeError in chooseOutput()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771405:55
ubotuNew bug: #147715 in language-pack-cs (main) "system-config-printer - chyb st pekladu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771506:00
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ubotuNew bug: #147712 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch() (dup-of: 122973)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771206:05
ubotuNew bug: #147716 in ubuntu "collaborate with Fedora to enable func capabilities on Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771606:05
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dholbachhey Martinp2306:09
ubotuNew bug: #147132 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in exif_log()" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14713206:16
ubotuNew bug: #147280 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14728006:17
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ubotuNew bug: #147718 in gnome-panel (main) "(Gutsy) displayconfig has crashed and cant change the resolution now" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14771806:21
ubotuNew bug: #147722 in ubuntu "lenguaje espaol no se integra totalmente" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14772206:21
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ubotuNew bug: #147724 in opera (partner) "Please add opera translations in the opera package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14772406:26
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ubotuNew bug: #147728 in firefox (main) "Default browser button check doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14772806:35
ubotuNew bug: #147729 in spamassassin (universe) "UVFe request for spamassassin 3.2.3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14772906:35
bdmurraypedro_: Happy October06:41
pedro_bdmurray: hi! Happy October to you too :-)06:43
bdmurraypedro_: I watched some IT Crowd - thanks much to you!06:43
pedro_bdmurray: oh you're welcome, did you watched the last one?06:45
pedro_bdmurray: talking about that i manage to fix my audio, thanks a lot for your help ;-)06:45
bdmurraypedro_: No, I'm spacing them out.  I just watched S02E01 the other night.06:46
bdmurrayI think it was called The Office Outing06:46
bdmurraypedro_: I ran across bug 84278 again - do you think it is a gnome-screenshot issue?06:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 84278 in ubuntu "infinite loop with PrintScreen" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8427806:48
pedro_let me see it06:48
ubotuNew bug: #147731 in bind9 (main) "This package prevent .local adresses to work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773106:48
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pedro_bdmurray: i also get the hang in my gutsy installation , that's probably is a X issue06:52
bdmurraypedro_: Wow, it hung on your system?06:53
pedro_just my X06:54
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ubotuNew bug: #147536 in ubuntu "Sarah Hobbs is a jerk." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14753606:55
ubotuNew bug: #147733 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Blank screen while booting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773306:55
pedro_and it doesn't hang if a press Print Screen without Alt06:55
ubotuNew bug: #147734 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.78 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Je ne suis pas parvenu  localiser un fichier du paquet libc6-dev. Ceci signifie que vous devrez corriger manuellement ce paquet." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773406:55
ubotuNew bug: #147736 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]  PDF printer not available by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773606:55
pedro_trolling at reports, iak.06:57
pochupedro_: just for your information, there's no need to forward tracker bugs upstream, since upstream reads and triages them in launchpad :)06:58
pochupedro_: anyway, your help is much appreciated!06:58
pedro_pochu: cool then :-)06:59
pochuThat doesn't mean you can't triage bugs! :p07:00
ubotuNew bug: #147737 in initramfs-tools (main) "ata_piix does not get loaded from initrd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773707:00
bdmurrayIt might be interesting to start a wiki page of upstreams that look at launchpad bugs.07:01
pochuSounds good.07:02
bdmurrayI think amarok uses LP too07:02
pedro_as their principal bug tracker?07:03
bdmurrayNo, not principally but their upstream looks at amarok bugs in Launchpad07:03
pochuAt ubuntu bugs for their product, that is.07:05
bdmurraypochu: Yes, much better worded.07:05
ubotuNew bug: #147739 in wine (universe) "system locks during creation of .wine folder" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14773907:05
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ubotuNew bug: #147740 in ubuntu "network tools menu not translated in french" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774007:05
ubotuNew bug: #147741 in ubuntu "Pidgin doesn't connect to server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774107:10
ubotuNew bug: #147742 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.78 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774207:11
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rbs-titoI'm on Gutsy Beta, the lower panel isn't there when GNOME first starts. I have to click near the bottom of the screen to do it07:18
bdmurrayrbs-tito: What do you mean to do it?07:20
rbs-titoWhoops, I meant to get the panel to appear07:20
bdmurrayDoes that happen with every user?07:21
rbs-titoI only have one user, should I create another account and test it out?07:21
albert23bug 14707007:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147070 in compiz "bottom panel not visible when desktop starts" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14707007:22
rbs-titoI couldn't find it on launchpad07:22
rbs-titoRight, now I've got to go get syslog off the live CD07:22
rbs-titoBefore I go, does anyone else experience the screen flashing black when you click the GNOME quit button?07:23
rbs-tito(Nvidia drivers)07:23
bdmurrayNot I07:23
bdmurrayI don't have nvidia though07:23
rbs-titoIt seemed to be alright in nv , but not in nvidia07:23
rbs-titoI'll save that for later, i need to go get that syslog07:24
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rbs-titoI'm trying to reproduce a bug07:30
rbs-titoBut I can't07:30
rbs-titobecause I need to get to a stage in the partitioner after formatting07:30
rbs-titowait, I could make another small partition07:31
ubotuNew bug: #147748 in eclipse (universe) "eclipse from repository and ant don't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774807:31
ubotuNew bug: #147743 in kubuntu-meta (main) "package kubuntu-desktop 1.56 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774307:32
ubotuNew bug: #147744 in ubufox (main) "Ubufox tries to install flashplugin-nonfree, can't find it (multiverse not enabled)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774407:32
ubotuNew bug: #147745 in pygoocanvas (universe) "should have a build-depends on python-gobject-doc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14774507:32
ubotuNew bug: #147751 in evolution (main) "[Gutsy]  Drag-n-drop function does not work for moving/ copying messages between folders" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775107:35
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ubotuNew bug: #147753 in compiz (main) "gutsy: compiz sometimes becomes non-responsive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775307:40
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ubotuNew bug: #147755 in ubuntu "Print driver for LaserJet 4100 series is locked in tray 1. (HP-LaserJet-laserjet.ppd)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775507:47
ubotuNew bug: #147756 in tracker (main) "Possible memory leak in trackerd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775607:50
ubotuNew bug: #147757 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "uvcvideo module prevents system from suspending or hibernating" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775707:50
rbs-titoThe screen flashes every time I click quit using the nvidia drivers, what package do I file this against?07:51
rbs-titoShould it be nvidia-glx-new ?07:52
Kmosyou've tried with "nv" driver?07:53
MblackwellDoesn't one of the accessibility options do that?07:54
rbs-titonv works fine07:54
rbs-titoIt is just nvidia07:54
rbs-titorestricted modules *.2207:54
Kmostry with nvidia-glx-new07:55
rbs-titoThat is what it happens with07:55
Kmosset the bug report to that package07:56
Kmosagainst that package, is what I mean07:56
rbs-titoOh right, I did and it just changed it to restricted modules when I submitted it07:56
ubotuNew bug: #147442 in firefox (main) "#124581," [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14744207:57
Kmosi don't know if restricted-modules have something to do with that07:57
Kmosbecause it's an nvidia issue07:57
Kmosand that drivers aren't included in modules07:57
rbs-titorestricted modules is just repackaged Nvidia, ATI, Intel etc drivers isn't it?07:57
rbs-titoAnyway, I typed nvidia-glx-new and it automatically changed it to that07:58
Kmosif someone thinks it's not a nvidia problem, they'll forward it to kernel07:58
rbs-titoOr maybe xorg07:58
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Kmosrbs-tito: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies -> also do the minimal information steps and attach the files to the bug report07:59
Kmosit will help07:59
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rbs-titoBy the way, bug 43252 is a pain, and I have the card in question to spare. Would it help any of the developers? I don't mind sending it08:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 43252 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "Driver Bug for nVidia 6800 series Cards" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4325208:00
ubotuNew bug: #147497 in asoundconf-gtk (universe) "i can`t insall the program in PC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14749708:01
ubotuNew bug: #147758 in ubuntu "upgrade from feisty to gutsy beta errors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775808:01
ubotuNew bug: #147759 in evince (main) "printer crashing when printing PDF" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14775908:01
ubotuNew bug: #147760 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Quit button flashes screen black" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14776008:01
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Kmosrbs-tito: do the "minimal" steps in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies and attach them to the bug08:04
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rbs-titoKmos: Done them except dmesg08:05
rbs-titoKmos: The event doesn't add anything to dmesg08:05
rbs-titoWhat about something like glxinfo ?08:07
rbs-titoThis isn't a kernel bug at all08:08
rbs-titoIt is compiz!08:08
bdmurraypedro_: brightness is handled by g-p-m isn't it?08:08
pedro_bdmurray: yes08:08
bdmurrayWow, there are a lot of g-p-m bug reports.08:09
bdmurrayHave you seen a bug about dropping the brightness all the way down?08:09
ubotuNew bug: #147763 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer pcm audio output issue, can only use master" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14776308:10
ubotuNew bug: #147762 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Power states AMD64x2 broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14776208:11
pedro_probably this one, bug 8140708:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 81407 in acpi-support "[Feisty]  Thinkpad (all models) LCD brightness control cycles between lowest settings only" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8140708:14
Kmosbdmurray: u're a xfce user ?08:14
Kmosbug 12566908:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 125669 in xscreensaver "xfce screensaver configurer doesn't run/exist" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12566908:15
bdmurrayKmos: Nope, I don't have xubuntu setup08:17
bdmurraypedro_: What I was that I can lower the brightness all the way to "off" and it won't go back up08:18
Kmosasac: bug 2687408:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 26874 in network-manager "No notification is network cables are unplugged." [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2687408:22
Kmosasac: isn't this already fixed?08:22
pedro_bdmurray: to off? i saw one probably related, bug 12183308:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off between brightness levels during fades, and when on battery or at idle" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12183308:24
ubotuNew bug: #147768 in kdepim (main) "Download failed in some way!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14776808:25
ubotuNew bug: #147769 in kdebase (main) "Screen becomes garbled when selecting 'K button' -> 'Log out...'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14776908:30
ubotuNew bug: #147770 in gthumb (main) "awful print quality due to unwanted blur" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777008:30
ubotuNew bug: #147771 in syncropated (universe) "Syncropated Won't Sync Kodak SD/MMC/CF/Smart Card Reader" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777108:30
ubotuNew bug: #147772 in gnome-power-manager (main) "possible to lower brightness all the way to off" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777208:35
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ubotuNew bug: #147775 in ubuntu "Text based installer hangs after installing default packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777508:46
ubotuNew bug: #147779 in libspf2 (universe) "Please sync libspf2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777908:46
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ubotuNew bug: #147777 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox and dia-common upgrade crashes on gutsy beta upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14777708:51
ubotuNew bug: #147780 in aptitude (main) "aptitude safe-upgrade (and full-upgrade) parameter not listed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778008:51
ubotuNew bug: #147782 in system-config-printer (main) "[Gutsy]  Please, add the 'X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=system-config-printer' line into the .desktop files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778208:51
ubotuNew bug: #147785 in libgphoto2 (main) "Cannot connect to Canon PowerShot S3 IS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778508:51
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ubotuNew bug: #147786 in totem (main) "*.qtl movies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778608:55
ubotuNew bug: #147788 in system-config-printer (main) "[Gutsy]  Please, change the translation domain for the 'Default Printer' tool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778808:55
asacKmos: most likely09:00
asacKmos: maybe ask submitter09:00
ubotuNew bug: #147789 in totem (main) "[gutsy] [totem]  bogus slider ( GtkHScale ) function or option." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14778909:00
Kmosasac: ok, thanks09:03
ubotuNew bug: #147790 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox-metadata crashed with SIGSEGV in gst_object_get_parent() (dup-of: 144254)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779009:05
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ubotuNew bug: #147791 in kdemultimedia (main) "[gutsy]  no sound module" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779109:05
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bdmurraypedro_: Did you see the latest comment on 84278?09:09
pedro_bdmurray: looking at it now09:12
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pedro_bdmurray: mm it looks like a good _workaround_ to me09:17
pedro_do you want to create a couple of wishlist tasks with it ?09:18
bdmurraytasks for?09:18
pedro_gnome-utils and the kde app that control that keys, to be able to disable the repeat feature trough their gui09:20
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ubotuNew bug: #147793 in ubuntu "Could not initialize the package information" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779309:27
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ubotuNew bug: #147792 in ubuntu "UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779209:28
ubotuNew bug: #147794 in net-snmp (main) "snmpd segfaults on -LX options" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779409:31
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ubotuNew bug: #147796 in update-manager (main) "unable to fetch pre-requists" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779609:35
ubotuNew bug: #137581 in cupsys (main) "[Gusty]  Printer shared by default (Security)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13758109:36
ubotuNew bug: #147795 in gajim (universe) "if someone write me icq transport crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779509:36
Nafallothat's probably a bug in the transport then... ;-)09:37
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Windkracht8Good day, I've got a problem with starting gdm with Gutsy, can someone tell me what data to collect for a bug report?09:44
KmosWindkracht8: first search if there isn't any bug reported yet about your problem.09:45
ubotuNew bug: #147798 in ubuntu "kernel general protection fault when copying a lot of files over Samba" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779809:45
ubotuNew bug: #147799 in ubuntu "middle button don't work anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14779909:45
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ubotuNew bug: #147800 in system-config-printer (main) "Gutsy : bluetooth printing was working but is not" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780009:50
ubotuNew bug: #147801 in cups-pdf (main) "package cups-pdf 2.4.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780109:51
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ubotuNew bug: #141061 in ubiquity (main) "HDD encryption not available on installation" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14106109:57
ubotuNew bug: #147806 in j2se1.4-amd64 (multiverse) "package j2re1.4 None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4.list]  failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess pre-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 3 zurck  (I can't accept the license)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780609:57
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ubotuNew bug: #145079 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with ) in <html>() (dup-of: 144165)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14507910:01
ubotuNew bug: #147807 in udev (main) "udev vol_id does not recognise FAT* partitions with sector size 8192" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780710:01
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ubotuNew bug: #145123 in compiz (main) "Keyboard shortcut works even when the screen is locked" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14512310:06
ubotuNew bug: #147809 in ubuntu "Internet don't work in GNOME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780910:06
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ubotuNew bug: #147808 in ubuntu "udevd running wild" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780810:10
ubotuNew bug: #147810 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  pyelemental" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781010:10
ubotuNew bug: #147811 in rt2500 (universe) "Ubuntu 7.10 Wireless Interface WEP password login problem with Asus WL-167G Usb Wlan Adapter" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781110:10
ubotuNew bug: #147812 in zsh (main) "Please grant freeze exception for zsh merge from Debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781210:10
ubotuNew bug: #147813 in pidgin (main) "pidgin fails to start without error message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781310:10
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ubotuNew bug: #147804 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14780410:15
ubotuNew bug: #147814 in compiz (main) "compiz doesn't work with multiple X screens" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781410:15
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ubotuNew bug: #146232 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_ref()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14623210:25
ubotuNew bug: #147817 in liferea (main) "(Liferea_Gutsy) RSS feeds do not launch in Firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781710:31
bdmurraypedro_: re bug 147683 I don't think the DVD is important10:34
ubotuBug 147683 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/147683 is private10:34
bdmurrayI think it was just the fact that totem was open with a file and I inserted any DVD10:34
ubotuNew bug: #146660 in udev (main) "volumeid failed tu update (dup-of: 146513)" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14666010:36
ubotuNew bug: #147818 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  batik SVG lib" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781810:36
ubotuNew bug: #147819 in nautilus (main) "openoffice documents preview icons have no border nor background" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14781910:41
pedro_bdmurray: weird... i  cannot reproduce it with an old dvd disc (don't know what type it is) i have that's why i told you that in the report10:41
bdmurrayand totem was already open?10:41
bdmurrayhunh, well I can't reproduce it now10:43
bdmurrayLet me dig some more10:43
pedro_yup with totem open10:43
pedro_ok cool10:43
ubotuNew bug: #147821 in langpack-locales (main) "package locales 2.6.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14782110:46
ubotuNew bug: #147822 in libsndfile (main) "Please sync libsndfile (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14782210:46
bdmurraypedro_: It seems it has to be a wav file10:49
ubotuNew bug: #147826 in tcpxtract (universe) "Seg Fault when processing wireless derived data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14782610:50
ubotuNew bug: #147827 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "FUJITSU SIEMENS XTB70 snd-hda-intel fix" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14782710:50
pedro_bdmurray: ah, let me see if i can reproduce it with one10:50
ubotuNew bug: #147682 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "[xps1330]  microphone built-in doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14768210:51
ubotuNew bug: #147830 in amarok (main) "Amarok crash while scanning database for changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783010:55
ubotuNew bug: #147831 in ubuntu "Sound output malfunction, sound system preference crashes on playback test" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783110:55
pedro_bdmurray: i got no crash here, it start playing the dvd10:56
ubotuNew bug: #147832 in kdebase (main) "konqueror crash while transfering file in the 2splited view" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783211:00
ubotuNew bug: #147833 in kdebase (main) "konqueror crash when closed it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783311:00
ubotuNew bug: #147834 in openoffice.org-amd64 (main) "open office not checking capitalizations with the en-gb dictionary" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783411:00
ubotuNew bug: #147835 in kdebase (main) "konqueror crash while transfering file in the 2splited view (2)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783511:00
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ubotuNew bug: #147124 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin Security Advisory, CVE-2007-4996 (dup-of: 147103)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14712411:05
ubotuNew bug: #147837 in ubuntu "Text Installation failed - 2 reasons: encrypted+lvm fs, screen font hang" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783711:12
ubotuNew bug: #147838 in konversation (main) "konversation crashed while reconneting to server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783811:12
ubotuNew bug: #147170 in ubuntu "Upgrade  from Dapper give bug?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14717011:13
ubotuNew bug: #147839 in pidgin (main) "Preferences are not saved after log out." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14783911:16
ubotuNew bug: #147840 in update-manager (main) "Getting upgrade pre-requists failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784011:16
ubotuNew bug: #147841 in ubuntu "Wireless networking needs restart after booting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784111:16
ubotuNew bug: #147842 in emerald (universe) "Please make Emerald depend on Subversion!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784211:16
ubotuNew bug: #147844 in gnome-desktop (main) "Resize window broken when titlebar is off-screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784411:21
ubotuNew bug: #147845 in emerald (universe) "Gutsy: Installing themes from the svn repository produces errors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784511:21
ubotuNew bug: #147847 in kdemultimedia (main) "button +/6 volume not working in kubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784711:26
ubotuNew bug: #147849 in pidgin (main) "[Reproducable]  pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_path_get_basename() - on deleting a not started filetransfer and removing it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14784911:26
ubotuNew bug: #147850 in debconf (main) "Latest Gutsy update fails with segmentation fault " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785011:31
ubotuNew bug: #147851 in gnome-panel (main) "i cannot run my cd rom games and any install programs what cani do" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785111:31
ubotuNew bug: #147852 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity-frontend-gtk should't depend on gnome-control-center" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785211:31
ubotuNew bug: #147854 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set_valist()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785411:37
ubotuNew bug: #147855 in ubuntu "Missing sound section in gnome-keybinding-properties" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785511:37
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ubotuNew bug: #147858 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "western digital WD800ADFS ncq problems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14785811:40
ubotuNew bug: #147861 in inotify-tools (universe) "[UVFe]  Update to inotify-tools 3.11" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786111:45
ubotuNew bug: #147862 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Xen kernel hangs randomly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786211:52
ubotuNew bug: #147863 in libconfig (universe) "libconfig.pc not installed by libconfig0-dev" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786311:52
ubotuNew bug: #147864 in ubuntu "Profanity in error message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786411:55
ubotuNew bug: #147865 in knetdockapp (universe) "Knetdockapp only shows packets on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786511:55
ubotuNew bug: #147866 in unzip (main) "unzip extracts directories as symlinks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786611:55
ubotuNew bug: #147868 in ubuntu "no error message when totem fails to play DVD movie disc" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14786812:07
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