[12:16] New bug: #147426 in ubuntu "G-key doesn't bring xine's control panel to the foreground" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147426 [12:16] New bug: #147427 in svgatextmode (universe) "gutsy dependency problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147427 [12:16] New bug: #147429 in update-manager (main) "Could not install 'debconf' during System upgrade 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147429 === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:25] New bug: #147433 in tracker (main) "Unicode equivalences broken in tracker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147433 === TLE [n=kenneth@77.75.167.190] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:30] New bug: #147435 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 144326)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147435 [12:30] New bug: #147436 in banshee (universe) "banshee-daap lets you try and delete/rename files in other libraries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147436 [12:30] New bug: #147437 in ubuntu ""Terminal" app constantly wobbles when maximized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147437 === fabiux [n=fabiux@82.84.95.197] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:37] New bug: #147440 in lirc (main) "cannot make lirc_i2c kernel module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147440 [12:37] New bug: #147441 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147441 [12:38] New bug: #147439 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy] ipw3945 roaming is flakey and unstable (regression from feisty fawn)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147439 [12:39] aye! === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [12:45] New bug: #147444 in glibc (main) "dgettext not thread-safe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147444 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === CarlFK [n=carl@c-76-29-25-210.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:25] gutsy alternate installer says: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-12-386/modules.dep: No such file or directory [01:25] New bug: #147447 in gnome-panel (main) "configure workspace Gutsy beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147447 [01:25] New bug: #147449 in firefox (main) "Java add-on works less well on Firefox than MSIE." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147449 [01:25] and yet if I alt-f2 to the shell I can cat it just fine [01:26] for problems wityh gutsy join #ubuntu+1 or file a bug @ http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [01:27] thanks === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dsas [n=dean@ubuntu/member/dsas] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === torkiano [n=torkiano@cm158243.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:40] New bug: #147452 in ubuntu "kde (qt) programs should have no shadows enabled (Gutsy Beta)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147452 [01:40] New bug: #147453 in compiz (main) "compiz with mplayer (fullscreen) crashes X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147453 === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-069-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:51] how do I find "bugs reported by me" ? [01:51] found it. of course. === scguy318 [n=nodisgod@pool-71-123-180-118.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:13] CarlFK: your LP page :) [02:13] yeah - I was looking on the bugs page. silly me [02:13] took me 2 months give or take to figure out they were there [02:14] I go too long between reporting, and so I forget === pschulz01 [n=paul@ubuntu/member/pschulz01] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:15] as long as someone is awake - got any suggestions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/147456 [02:15] Launchpad bug 147456 in ubuntu "alt-installer: Could not load /lib/.../modules.dep: No such file" [Undecided,New] === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [02:16] CarlFK: bad burn bad ISO? [02:16] CarlFK: ill look at it now [02:16] New bug: #147456 in ubuntu "alt-installer: Could not load /lib/.../modules.dep: No such file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147456 [02:16] gnomefreak: no disks were burned in the making of this bug [02:16] lol [02:16] ok [02:17] I used PXE, but wget/kexec or grub or any other way of booting that kernel will do [02:18] well PXE ive seen alot of bugs on but ive never tried it personall so im not sure about that [02:18] and the installer should be the same as the alternate CDs [02:19] the only difference is where apt looks for repo - local CD or http [02:20] New bug: #147458 in kopete (main) "Kopete does not connect to Yahoo in live session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147458 [02:25] New bug: #147460 in ubuntu "FAT partitions are mounted with utf-8 encoding by default (Gutsy beta)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147460 [02:41] New bug: #147462 in ubuntu "Random Freeze in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147462 === Gun_de_gray25 [i=papash@gateway/tor/x-e384cd12aa1c934c] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:46] New bug: #147463 in ubuntu "Booting into tty1 instead of tty7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147463 [02:46] New bug: #147464 in ubuntu "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464 [02:46] New bug: #147465 in ubuntu "Installing software from two disks, CD tray won't open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147465 [02:59] New bug: #147469 in ubuntu "cannot eject the usb memory card" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147469 === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:02] New bug: #147468 in ubuntu "installation freeze when download packages of repositories" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147468 [03:10] New bug: #147471 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "screen flickers & wobbles rapidly in from the side toward the center. Turning monitor off & on again stabilizes it for about 60 secs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147471 [03:15] New bug: #147472 in ubuntu "Acer Aspire 5100 volume keys don't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147472 [03:20] New bug: #147473 in gimp (main) "gimp-2.4 crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147473 [03:20] New bug: #147474 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Can't upload files to flash website" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147474 === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-75-228.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Gun_de_gray25 [i=papash@gateway/tor/x-6ee11503df03c027] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === scguy318 [n=nodisgod@pool-71-123-180-118.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === cypher1 [n=cypher1@pool-71-187-249-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:00] New bug: #147478 in thunar-volman (universe) "package thunar-volman 0.1.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147478 [04:00] New bug: #147480 in hwdb-client (main) "package hwdb-client-common 0.6.11 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147480 === ehc [n=evan@wall.pacinfo.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:15] New bug: #147484 in ubuntu "No Easy Way to record Video" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147484 [04:15] New bug: #147485 in gnome-games (main) "robots quitting when 'super safe moves' is enabled." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147485 [04:20] New bug: #147486 in tracker (main) "Tracker doesn't honor ignored file pattern" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147486 [04:21] New bug: #147487 in ubuntu "No way to play Nintendo 64 roms in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147487 [04:26] New bug: #147490 in console-cyrillic (universe) "package console-cyrillic 0.9-15 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou cdigo de sada de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147490 [04:31] New bug: #147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147491 [04:31] New bug: #147493 in ubuntu "Ardour, Jack, Password Nightmares." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147493 [04:45] New bug: #147494 in ubuntu "Update Manager Breaking Random Stuff" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147494 [04:55] New bug: #147495 in ubuntu "(Gutsy?) Gnome keyboard layout switcher (Dvorak->Qwerty) not fully monotonic (fails on ^D, ^E)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147495 [04:55] New bug: #147496 in democracyplayer (universe) "Wrapper breaks adding channels outside miro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147496 === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:16] New bug: #147499 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[7.10] dosen't suspend after close lid, suspend from menu works well" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147499 [05:16] New bug: #147500 in ubuntu "volume while using snd_usb_audio goes down to 40% when you change the volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147500 === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-75-228.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:26] New bug: #147503 in xcompmgr (universe) "xcompmgr freezes system log out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147503 [05:28] Wow. Someone's still using xcompmgr. [05:30] New bug: #147504 in ubuntu "If NTFS Partition fails to mount; you log in and out repeatedly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147504 === os2mac [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:50] New bug: #147505 in helix-player (universe) "helix plugin not loaded by firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147505 [06:00] New bug: #147506 in evolution (main) "Gutsy: Autocomplete fails for multiple addressees" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147506 === sourcercito [n=sourcer@pc-178-169-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:05] New bug: #147507 in helix-player (universe) "helix plugin not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147507 === sourcercito [n=sourcer@pc-178-169-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:24] I already reported it but I wanted to (if anyone is awake) double check on this bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464 since it causes a system freeze doing a relatively normal task. If there's an easy way to trace it (for instance a certain log) I can attach it. [06:24] Launchpad bug 147464 in ubuntu "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New] [06:26] New bug: #147508 in dkms (universe) "package dkms 2.0.16.1-1 [modified: usr/sbin/dkms usr/share/man/man8/dkms.8.gz] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147508 [06:28] uh, what now? [06:29] If I run a torrent file, or transfer something over the network (note it's wireless) after a period of time of high bandwidth usage the entire system well freeze [06:29] *will [06:30] This afternoon I was able to scrape by at least 2 hours of activity of this kind, but normally it's 15 minutes or less. === Hobbsee marks 147508 as INVALID [06:30] sorry, the response was to 147508 [06:31] Ah [06:32] I thought apport stopped reporting of non-ubuntu packages [06:32] it doesnt, unfortunately [06:32] although if you're using automatix, ti'll refuse to report. [06:32] or envy, iirc. [06:32] or maybe that's only the upgrader [06:32] * Add general-hooks/automatix.py: Refuse to send problem reports if [06:32] automatix is installed. [06:33] just automatix, then. [06:33] If Automatix in general is installed or just applications install with automatix? [06:33] *installed [06:34] no, if automatix is installed, we throw all of it out [06:34] because automatix breaks more than just the particular packages it installs. [06:35] I thought it did that with automatix, but not automatix 2 which just installs from the repositories [06:35] and it's not worth attempting to try and track down a bug, and then find that it's automatix that's caused it - we've got enough users and enough bugs that someone else who *isnt* using automatix will report it, if it's a problem. [06:35] !automatix [06:35] Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software. When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it. A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme) [06:35] read the analysis, ti's quite illuminating. [06:35] New bug: #147509 in ubuntu "regression: kernel 2.6.20-16-generic upgrade makes computer noisy from early stages in boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147509 [06:35] that was done on automatix2 [06:36] Ah [06:36] Anyway, #147464 is the most aggravating bug I swear. [06:37] I can't even think of where I would look to trace it back [06:39] Mblackwell: common activities? possibly not on nfs... [06:39] Mblackwell: does it happen on non-nfs file systems? [06:39] i'm downloading the torrents to an EXT3 [06:40] other users report the same problem on NFS network transfers (with or without torrents) [06:40] and there's on bug that I can't remember the name of that was dropped that reports it on SMB share [06:40] s [06:40] oh right, so the torrent part is likely irrelevant [06:40] erm, not name, number [06:41] exactly, it's just a good indicator of high and rapid bandwidth consumption [06:41] being a cause [06:42] And a good way to test as well, since I can just crank up a few torrents and get my system to freeze ;) === Hobbsee shoves to nfs-utils === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-90-200.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:44] why nfs-utils? [06:44] Is it even worth reporting bugs that are not reproducible? ( or rather, I cannot replicate the conditions that cause it on other installs but I can consistently reproduce it on mine ) [06:45] Mblackwell: general guess at a nfs package [06:46] Jordan_U: unlikely. depends if you can track down what it's from on your system. [06:46] Yes, but as I said it occurs when downloading to an EXT3 partition, so nfs wouldn't be invoked [06:46] Jordan_U: if you have a stack trace, perhaps [06:46] Mblackwell: ah, i thought you said that it didnt occur [06:47] No, I was saying yes it does occur since I'm downloading to ext3 [06:47] ah [06:47] I think all other people who reported the problem also had wireless networks [06:48] there's 3 threads about it on the gutsy dev forum [06:49] (which is how I figured out it wasn't just the torrents) [06:55] you may actually want to mention all this on the bug report. [06:59] adding info now [07:02] updatd [07:03] *updated [07:03] Urgh, I've released a monster: bug #147491 (and a couple of others) [07:03] Launchpad bug 147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147491 [07:03] wow my typing is especially horrible tonight [07:03] RAOF: haha. what'd you have to do with that? [07:04] RAOF: AMSN? Ha, although I really wish Pidgin did have all of that [07:04] I seriously miss voice chat and voice clip sending, being a musician who talks to other musicians [07:05] Hobbsee: I read the initial bug, which was a big rant, and pointed him to the bugfiling stuff on the wiki, and that we really can only handle one bug per report. [07:05] RAOF: ugh. replied on the bug, btw [07:05] RAOF: you might point him to the forums. *evil grin* [07:06] oh dear [07:06] New bug: #147515 in ubuntu "gutsy: playing video, probably fglrx related" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147515 [07:06] I don't know why he'd bother posting the bug on the ubuntu launchpad [07:06] instead of to pidgin [07:06] Hobbsee: He's also posted on the forums, and I've replied a bit there too. [07:06] ah yes, some nice crappy bugs. [07:06] How could you allow that? :O [07:06] Mainly that the way he writes his bugs is offensive. [07:06] Hobbsee: nice reply to bug 147491 [07:06] Launchpad bug 147491 in ubuntu "No Easy Videoconferencing in Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147491 [07:07] ajmitch: indeed. [07:07] RAOF: can we just close it, based on that? [07:07] Actually, that's almost precisely what Telepathy is meant to do. [07:08] They invented that? [07:08] There's even a totally alpha client where all that (kinda) works (apparently). [07:08] they'll win a nobel prize [07:08] even better, the telepathy guys handed out free tshirts at uds in mt view [07:09] Mblackwell: I think the idea is that it's a problem in Ubuntu, and we are deluding ourselves that we're good enough for him. [07:09] that wins them points in my book [07:09] ajmitch: Coool. === RAOF is a little bitter, having to mark on this public holiday. [07:09] hehe [07:10] RAOF: I remember a year or so ago the Gaim folks talking about adding those things and then suddenly we had a freeze and next thing you know... Pidgin! ... with none of those features. [07:10] but you're at uni, you have holidays year round [07:10] RAOF: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/147484 [07:10] Launchpad bug 147484 in ubuntu "No Easy Way to record Video" [Undecided,Invalid] === Hobbsee marks all of them like that. [07:10] Hobbsee: Thank you. It felt a bit awkward, me saying "please file bugs", then going around and saying "no, not like that!" :/ [07:11] Hobbsee: harsh reply [07:11] next thing you know, that bug will end up on slashdot [07:11] like the debian tzdata bug did [07:12] Mblackwell: Yeah. There was kinda voip support. Where's that gone, anyway? [07:12] He actually *does* have some bugs to report, too. I'm not sure if he's actually filed any of his bugs, though. [07:12] RAOF: I don't know, but I've had to use AMSN and Skype and it bites because I like to keep my logs all in one place. === Hobbsee marks one as incomplete, and will let launchpad take care of it. [07:13] right. done. [07:13] It's a pity we can't get the same quality as skype in ekiga et al. Stupid patents. [07:13] indeed. [07:14] although, it'd be nice if skype could go in commercial. [07:14] So if anyone can think of a method to trace bug 147464 I'll go ahead and crash my machine [07:14] Launchpad bug 147464 in nfs-utils "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464 [07:14] Mblackwell: I don't suppose you can reproduce that on a non-rt kernel? [07:15] New bug: #147516 in gnome-app-install (main) "package gnome-app-install 0.4.10-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: sistema de ficheros del archivo tar da?ado - archivo de paquete da?ado" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147516 [07:15] New bug: #147517 in ubuntu "ipw3945 driver missing from non-generic kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147517 [07:15] I can attempt to [07:15] It looks like it should be easy enough to reproduce, if it can be? [07:15] yes [07:15] should be simple [07:16] I'm just going to edit xorg.conf to boot with nv though, so I don't have to go through a whole hassle [07:16] so it will be a few minutes before I can check [07:17] I'm not going to be able to do anything with the knowledge, anyway, but the kernel team should :) [07:17] back in a mo === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:21] and now comes the fun part [07:22] Bandwithatu! === lionel [n=lionel@ip-149.net-89-3-208.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:29] yay I found a bug I think in Deluge, ah well [07:29] it's unrelated [07:30] New bug: #147520 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa 0.43-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147520 [07:31] Wouldn't surprise me. Libboost-python FTL. [07:31] btw, what's this issue with the libbluetooth or whatever it's called again stuff and gstreamer that I keep seeing pop up? === r0bby_ [n=wakawaka@cpe-24-164-167-171.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:33] I'm an idiot, I just updated [07:34] and while I was updating I realized if my computer froze I could be completely screwed depending on where the update was [07:34] Mblackwell: libkbluetooth0? [07:35] yeah I believe that's it [07:35] i fixed that, a couple of days ago [07:35] it causes a crash in track-extractor and possibly rhythmbox [07:35] ah okay [07:35] bluetooth has nothing to do with rhythmbox and such, i expect? [07:35] nope [07:35] although it's broken beyond belief anyway [07:35] it happens in gstreamer [07:36] but somehow involves that [07:36] although if you active the MTP plugin in rhythmbox you basically break it [07:36] it won't display, although it will run as a process === iceman__ [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:37] (speaking of things being broken beyond belief) [07:37] fun [07:37] I don't know if it's reported... maybe I should report it [07:37] ha [07:38] RAOF: Deluge just magicrashed on me right around the 15 minute mark... hmm [07:38] You know.... magicrash.... where the program just mysteriously disappears [07:39] Mblackwell, apport should appear within a minute to allow you to report it. [07:39] You would think so, but it didn't. [07:40] see if there's a crash file in /var/crash/ for it [07:40] Mblackwell: Has it been pushed behind the desktop window? Compiz has a bad habit of pushing WoW behind the desktop for me. [07:41] I told you I was booting with nv :) [07:41] no compiz [07:41] Heh. [07:41] Granted, I can't expect everyone to remember everything all of the time [07:41] Although wouldn't that be great? [07:41] Nah, our heads would explode. [07:42] Yeah but you'd never have to look up a command again because you'd remember them all! Gosh I've been making Duke3D mods for years and I still have to look things up. === Hobbsee cheers at having .bash_history === RAOF 's zsh history buffer contains 100K lines, for similar reasons. [07:43] I can't wait until neural implants come out. Come on sci-fi, you can't have been lying to me all this time! [07:44] I still want my damned hover car [07:44] it's no the future until we have them [07:44] Also, then I wouldn't have to mark these frikkin row reductions! [07:44] and I refuse to die until I get one [07:45] DarkMageZ: There is a report, but it can't be reported and I remembered why [07:46] because I'm using the update from the website, since I was trying to see if Deluge was the issue when I ran into bug 147464 [07:46] Launchpad bug 147464 in nfs-utils "Heavy network activity (torrent/nfs file transfers) causes Hard System Locks and/or Network Freezes." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147464 === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75195.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:48] good morning === Mblackwell crosses fingers for computer freeze [07:52] because if it happens everywhere it will get fixed faster..... maybe [07:52] Or if it's only in -rt that narrows the cause down. [07:53] Win-win! [07:53] This is true, unless.... oh wouldn't that be some weird horrible irony [07:54] if there was some correlation with Compiz [07:54] since technically I have it turned off [07:54] har [07:54] It's totally not going to be compiz's fault. [07:54] I have NO IDEA how that would be possible, but compiz can be a sonofabitch [07:54] It *may* be nvidia's fault, and then you're boned. [07:54] a baby killing sob [07:54] Binary blobs for the win! [07:55] As long as you don't want your kernel problem fixed, that is :/ [07:55] I know someone on the Nvidia driver team [07:55] they were quite upset when xorg suddenly changed the ABI [07:55] heh [07:55] Release the damn specs already. [07:55] We'll write a driver *for* you! [07:56] And a simple rebuild will fix everything! [07:56] Yeah but, then again that hasn't helped ATI [07:57] All the ATI drivers still suck o_0 [07:57] Their r300s have pretty reasonable support, the r200s more so. [07:57] Also, *they've* released their specs, and apparently nvidia hardware is just easier to write for. [07:57] So we'd probably get a better driver faster :) === scguy318 [n=nodisgod@pool-71-123-180-118.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:58] This is what I hear from #nouveau, at least. [07:58] I think they're more scared of ATI copying tech, but then again ATI is a silly silly company sometimes when it comes to graphics cards. Like the whole 24bit shaders instead of the full 32bit. But hey it got them better Half Life 2 performance am I right? === Mblackwell gags [07:59] Why not :) [08:00] It can't be *that* easy to go from specs to working silicon, though? [08:01] I couldn't say [08:01] My vast and intimate knowledge of CMOS technology tells me "no" [08:01] I would imagine it's not though [08:02] I guess I never really bothered to think badly of Nvidia though because at least they seem to care. On the other hand those damned wireless card manufacturers.... [08:02] *Really* don't care. [08:02] Except for intel. [08:03] Yay intel! [08:03] I'm really concerned about buying a laptop now, because I want to not feel ripped off but I want Ubuntu to work on it... and they won't let you boot a live cd.... I tried... they told me no :( [08:03] What? Really? [08:03] (at Best Buy) [08:03] Go somewhere else. [08:03] yes [08:03] Possibly [08:04] Anyway, the more intel stuff in there, the more likely it is to just work(tm) :) [08:04] This is my laptop buying strategy. [08:04] It really doesn't need to be great, but I want it to be good. I figured I would throw Ubuntu on it and then use this desktop as an XP gaming machine and a place to plug in external HDD's and act as a fileserver [08:05] And then I could actually sit on the damned COUCH while I do things like this [08:05] wouldn't that just be peachy? [08:06] the only thing is that I have my desktop set up just so and I don't want to have to re-set it up [08:06] is there a way I can important my panel and appearance settings? [08:06] rsync old.host:/home/username /home/ :) [08:07] Just copy across the user directory. All your setup will be preserved. [08:07] okay [08:07] also, unless this thing hangs in the next hour it's probably the rt kernel [08:08] although the fact that other users reported it.... I figure they aren't using the rt kernel [08:08] Maybe you should try rt without nvidia. [08:08] I only grabbed it to attempt to see if audio applications performed better [08:08] Yes [08:08] I could do that [08:08] Wouldn't *that* be fun. [08:09] I'm not sure why Nvidia would be a crash inducer though [08:09] in that circumstance at least [08:09] ah ha [08:09] deluge crashed [08:09] Because its kernel module can clobber *any* piece of memory on your system? Or starve something of interrupts, or...? [08:10] Nice hardlock? [08:10] naw, magicrash [08:13] I'm going to try again, this time using the official repo version so that the crash can be reported [08:15] bug #146870 [08:15] Launchpad bug 146870 in kdelibs "konqueror URL bar spoofing" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146870 [08:15] RAOF: totally unrelated, but: http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop20070822002ln0.png [08:15] that took way too long to want to redo [08:15] ha [08:23] okay [08:23] so it seems like with the non-rt kernel I keep getting magicrashes but no system hangs [08:23] I'm going to boot into the rt kernel with no nvidia and see what happens, if there's a similar result [08:25] New bug: #147524 in ubuntu "[Gutsy] Windows no longer on Grub list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147524 === Hobbsee bets this one is pebkac === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:27] yup. === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee INVALID's it [08:29] "i didn't bother to read the file, so put my changes in where it says "this gets autowritten each update", and then, lo and behold, my changes are gone! [08:29] " [08:29] shock! horror! [08:35] has it been flagged anywhere the synaptic should sync with installed firefox extensions if possible? [08:35] New bug: #147526 in ubuntu "firefox error al guardar un archivo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147526 [08:37] Mblackwell: uh, what? [08:38] for instance [08:38] I have Adblock already installed [08:38] and have for years [08:38] synaptic doesn't know that [08:39] it presents it as an installation candidate [08:39] oh, i see. [08:41] uh oh [08:42] azureus closes when I open it [08:42] wtf [08:45] # Problematic frame: [08:45] # C [libglibjni-0.4.so+0xb74b] [08:46] Wondering if this is like, an actual bug or I fucked something up. Heh. [09:00] New bug: #147527 in liferea (main) "Version in Gutsy beta 1 updates all feeds continuously" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147527 [09:02] Hey, that one's been fixed! [09:03] ? [09:04] That liferea bug. Fixed in latest upload :) [09:07] New bug: #147528 in openoffice.org (main) "text processor suspectily made error when copying content between documents with unwished (some previous ctrl+c) items inserted." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147528 === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:15] New bug: #147531 in ubuntu "Work Spaces can't be arranged in 2 rows using brightside" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147531 [09:17] RAOF: No system hangs or network freezes so far with Nv instead of Nvidia [09:17] although Deluge likes to close from time to time [09:17] Mblackwell: That's pretty much the worst possible outcome. In -rt, too? :( [09:18] Yeah [09:18] I'm in RT now [09:18] So, in short, nvidia sucks? [09:18] just to see I started copying a 5 gig file over the network to an nfs share [09:18] while downloading torrents [09:18] no crash so far === mvo [n=egon@p54A675D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:19] copying the 5 gigs is really slow though (even without the torrents going) === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:26] AH HA! [09:26] THANK GOD [09:26] I got it to crash [09:26] so it's no Nvidia [09:26] *not [09:27] Now I'm booted into Generic and I'm going to try the same thing [09:27] :) === TLE [n=kenneth@s021749.fysik.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:30] New bug: #147535 in qemu (universe) "Gutsy Beta's ISO does not boot in QEMU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147535 === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fabiux [n=fabiux@212.45.155.125] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:36] New bug: #147537 in compiz (main) "X session crashes when switching workspace and video playing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147537 === kagou [n=Patrice@88.140.236.71] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:41] good morning [09:45] New bug: #147540 in libgsf (main) "Should recommend installing imagemagick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147540 === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:01] New bug: #147542 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 144326)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147542 [10:01] New bug: #147543 in python-unit (main) "unittestgui cannot find test modules when in current-working directory. [Patch included!] " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147543 [10:01] New bug: #147545 in buildbot (universe) "package buildbot None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147545 [10:01] New bug: #147546 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy] rhythmbox doesn't build-depend on intltool, does not update its translation template" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147546 [10:01] New bug: #147547 in ubuntu "Gutsy Beta Installation Problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147547 [10:05] New bug: #147548 in ubiquity (main) "hangs if specific usb-drive is present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147548 [10:05] New bug: #147550 in serpentine (main) "[gutsy] serpentine should build-depend on intltool, doesn't update the translation template" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147550 === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:18] RAOF: Okay, so it happens in both kernels [10:18] and without nvidia === Mblackwell [n=Mblackwe@mail.unsernetz.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:26] New bug: #147551 in cups-pdf (main) "cups-pdf fails to generate file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147551 === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F74E8B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [10:31] New bug: #147552 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147552 === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:36] New bug: #147445 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV while using amarok global shortcut" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147445 [10:40] New bug: #147555 in gobby (universe) "Test bug -- please ignore" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147555 [10:40] New bug: #147557 in ubuntu "ubuntu server 7.10 beta amd64 network card dectection problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147557 === rluberti [n=rluberti@212.45.155.238] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rluberti [n=rluberti@212.45.155.238] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [10:50] New bug: #147561 in lshw (main) "package lshw 02.10-4ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147561 [10:51] New bug: #147560 in acpi (main) "Kernel detects battery management wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147560 [10:55] New bug: #147564 in file-roller (main) "package file-roller 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147564 [10:55] New bug: #147565 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "package nautilus-cd-burner 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147565 [10:55] New bug: #147566 in unattended-upgrades (main) "package unattended-upgrades 0.25.2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147566 [10:55] New bug: #147567 in gthumb (main) "package gthumb 3:2.10.6-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147567 [10:56] New bug: #147562 in launchpad-integration (main) "package launchpad-integration 0.1.14 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147562 [10:56] New bug: #147563 in language-selector (main) "package language-selector 0.2.8 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147563 [11:01] New bug: #147570 in evince (main) "package evince 2.20.0-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147570 [11:01] New bug: #147571 in apport (main) "package apport-gtk 0.97 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147571 [11:01] New bug: #147572 in glibc (main) "2.6.1-1ubuntu9 ->32bit apps on amd64 almost completely broken, jittery" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147572 [11:01] New bug: #147573 in yelp (main) "package yelp 2.19.90-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147573 [11:05] New bug: #147574 in ubuntu "Asus F5 laptop only boots with nosplash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147574 [11:05] New bug: #147575 in gnome-keyring-manager (main) "package gnome-keyring-manager 2.20.0-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147575 [11:06] New bug: #147576 in nano (main) "package nano 2.0.6-2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147576 [11:11] New bug: #146821 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in pushPlugin()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146821 [11:11] New bug: #147578 in yelp (main) "package yelp 2.19.90-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147578 [11:16] New bug: #147580 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "package python-launchpad-bugs 0.2.19 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147580 [11:16] New bug: #147581 in ubuntu-meta (main) "package ubuntu-standard 1.74 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147581 [11:16] New bug: #147583 in python-apt (main) "package python-apt 0.7.3.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147583 === bigon [n=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:21] New bug: #147584 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "package python-launchpad-bugs 0.2.19 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147584 [11:21] New bug: #147585 in seahorse (universe) "seahorse-agent does not show up in panel anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147585 [11:21] New bug: #147586 in apport (main) "package apport 0.97 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147586 [11:21] New bug: #147587 in ubuntu "grub menu.lst update in gutsy make lvm unbootable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147587 [11:26] New bug: #147589 in miro (universe) "Miro fails to play films when using default renderer (gstreamer works OK)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147589 [11:26] New bug: #147590 in rhythmbox (main) "Rythmbox crashes my new iPod Nano 8GB (new Ipod Nano with video support)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147590 === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.210.35] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:30] New bug: #147592 in ubuntu "NVIDIA-Graphic Card and jabberd2-ldap-pgsql " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147592 === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:40] New bug: #147594 in filezilla (universe) "ftp support in filezilla is gone..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147594 === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:45] New bug: #147596 in network-manager (main) "[gutsy] the wifi died after a few minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147596 === Mez [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === norsetto [n=Cesare@79.9.211.151] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:50] New bug: #147599 in language-pack-cs (main) "Bluetooth Analyzer - nedokonceny preklad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147599 [12:01] New bug: #147600 in linux-meta (main) "404 when getting restricted modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147600 [12:01] New bug: #147601 in compiz (main) "white border on popup windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147601 [12:11]