[12:04] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: in the permissions for the disc the owner is unknown and the following settings: create and delete files
[12:04] <vinzg> hi, how i can transfer file fran an ip to another ip with ubunto\gnome?
[12:04] <riotkittie> Cyclopes: you can cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver  ... but i'm not sure i've got that 100% right
[12:04] <sinizzl> where is /dev/shm usually mounted? on the harddisk?
[12:04] <riotkittie> try it and find out :P
[12:04] <geo-rge> perhaps it could be perceived as a weakness as opposed to an appliance such as a lightbulb... you can turn on and off a light without damaging the filesystem of its large hd :)
[12:05] <vocx> Cryoniq, also try "sudo lshw | less"
[12:05] <gogeta> bo
[12:05] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: try opening a terminal window and typing "chmod 775 /path/to/dvd"
[12:05] <gogeta> whats he trying to do
[12:05] <Ashfire908> can i balance traffic between two ppp0 connections?
[12:05] <geo-rge> admittedly, the analogy loses relevence since lightbulbs don't have many moving parts
[12:05] <riotkittie> geo-rge: unless theyre exploding :P
[12:06] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: i did that but when i double click on the DVD it still comes up blank
[12:06] <geo-rge> that would be an edge/corner case :P
[12:06] <XdorotaX> I scanned my Disk Usage, and I found a strange setup: There are four copies of the linux kernel, each with a different version number.. one is a restricted module (2.6.20-16), the rest are regular modules (2.6.17-12, 2.6.17-11, and 2.6.17-10)
[12:06] <gogeta> cameran blank dvd??
[12:06] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: maybe you could remount it
[12:06] <vocx> geo-rge, you are totally off topic, ha ha
[12:06] <cameran> gogeta: yeah the data dvd appears as blank
[12:06] <frostburn> XdorotaX, that's normal incase something breaks you can use an older kernel
[12:06] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: what commands do i need to type to unmount then remount?
[12:06] <gogeta> xdorotax thats couse ubuntu doesent uninstall old kernels
[12:06] <geo-rge> slicks_mage: so can you click now?
[12:06] <gogeta> you can safly thow
[12:07] <slicks_mage> bak lets start from the top
[12:07] <slicks_mage> yea i can
[12:07] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: right-click on the icon
[12:07] <XdorotaX> gogeta: is there any way I can decrease the amount of them?
[12:07] <gogeta> it leaves then incase the new one gives you issues
[12:07] <gogeta> yes
[12:07] <squarebottle> Anybody know a way that I can share a folder between a virtual machine and its host? Or more specifically, store files for the virtual machine in my linux filesystem?
[12:07] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: there isn't an unmount option so i ejected the disc
[12:07] <gogeta> you can remove all but the latest
[12:07] <SpiffyBalak> ah
[12:07] <Ashfire908> can i set up two ppp0s on a system set up as a gateway and balance the load between the two?
[12:07] <gogeta> the one your using
[12:07] <Alfadir>  how can I restart gnome without rebooting? just installed ubuntu today
[12:07] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: bad news, I've done some searching and it might be the copy protection
[12:07] <gogeta> ctrl alt backspace
[12:07] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: ok the disc is back and its the same thing
[12:07] <squarebottle> Alfadir: Press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
[12:07] <SpiffyBalak> what game is it?
[12:07] <siloko> Alfadir: ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:08] <geo-rge> ok, so I'm trying to get back on-topic then: btw, is xen on topic?
[12:08] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: Medieval 2: total war - but the thing is the disc worked fine a week ago, and the problem exists with all data DVDs i have used that previously worked
[12:08] <geo-rge> and support for ubuntu using xen?
[12:08] <slicks_mage> geo-rge: what do i do first to try to get wireless working on ubuntu?
[12:08] <Xero> How do I use multimedia keys in Songbird? The MMKeys works partially, but I want my Playpause key.
[12:08] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: the problem came about very recently, i had no problems with game dvds until this week
[12:08] <squarebottle> geo-rge: Ubuntu refers to the whole system, this room is for helping the users of Ubuntu. :)
[12:08] <jackfusion> hi all
[12:09] <Alfadir_> ty
[12:09] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: ok, I'm doing some more searching
[12:09] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: also - i do not have a disk or cdrom user in my user/groups section
[12:09] <vocx> geo-rge, of course is on topic but you tend to diverge a lot. Nobody has answered your Xen question by now, so you may have a better chance in the Xen forums or in ubuntuforums.org
[12:09] <vinzg> hi, how it's possible to transefer a file directly  from an ip to another ip?
[12:09] <pillowpants_> ok, i have a somewhat dumb question
[12:09] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: i'm not sure why, but i think i used to have disk or cdrom as a group but its gone now
[12:09] <hinogi> can anyone tell me how to install OneStroke? :P
[12:09] <pillowpants_> in konkerer, I clicked "do not ask again" for the download window that pops up when you try to download something
[12:09] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: try making a new group then?
[12:09] <pillowpants_> no i cant find where to undo that
[12:09] <esclavo> ubuntu 7.04 frozen, cannot ssh into it from inside lan, cannot use alt printscrn reisub, what should i do?
[12:09] <pillowpants_> my stuff is downloading, but i have no idea where to
[12:10] <geo-rge> ok... I can cut my divergence by cutting off me answering support questions here :)
[12:10] <gogeta> XdorotaX you whant the headers the kernel and restrected
[12:10] <Ashfire908> esclavo, power button?
[12:10] <gogeta> XdorotaX older ones of the same can be removed
[12:10] <vocx> !enter | pillowpants_
[12:10] <ubotu> pillowpants_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:10] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: would i just make a cdrom group?  then how do i assign it?  i still dont understand what the group has to do with it, but i read on a forum that it could be related to a group issue :(
[12:10] <quigley> how do i get midi working?
[12:10] <zylche> I'm requesting #ubuntu-cthulhu gets added to the unofficial ubuntu support channel lists - Phnglui mgwa nafh, Cthulhu R'lyeh w'gahnagl fthagn!
[12:10] <geo-rge> !xeb
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <geo-rge> !xen
[12:10] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:10] <XdorotaX> gogeta: exactly how, though? is it an apt-get command?
[12:10] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: I don't know about making groups
[12:10] <esclavo> Ashfire: risking another hard drive in use
[12:11] <skyrocker67> how does one start firestarter after installing it from synaptic?
[12:11] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: are you at Ubuntu 7.04?
[12:11] <gogeta> you can do it threw the gui
[12:11] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: yes, 7.04
[12:11] <gogeta> if you like
[12:11] <siloko> esclavo: can you login to another terminal?
[12:11] <Ashfire908> esclavo, is it activly writeing?
[12:11] <pillowpants_> vocx : youre not going to answer my question?
[12:11] <esclavo> Ya it was playing an mp3 before freezing
[12:11] <siloko> esclavo: ctr alt f1 for example
[12:11] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: did you update recently? did any updates happen around the time it stopped working?
[12:11] <esclavo> ye im on my macbook
[12:11] <esclavo> ya i tried that siloko
[12:11] <jackfusion> For those that want to run xampp through linux and windows off usb.
[12:11] <jackfusion> I have figured out how to run xampp linux from usb drive from help from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=19808&sid=54c2bc8f3acc5e914ffa2c866ae81689 use the lampp.sh file it tells you to make in any linux distro. to run xampp.
[12:11] <Ashfire908> esclavo, is it writeing?
[12:11] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: there was a recent kernel-headers update which is the only thing i can think of
[12:11] <vocx> pillowpants_, I don't use konqueror, try #kubuntu
[12:12] <esclavo> ya its skipping the mp3 right now..i think firefox froze it
[12:12] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: but i tried booting into a previous kernel from the grub menu and the problem was still there! :(
[12:12] <XdorotaX> gogeta: nevermind
[12:12] <pillowpants_> vocx : ah, sure
[12:12] <gogeta> to play mp3s you need lame installed
[12:12] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: I'll search for more
[12:12] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: thank you very much
[12:12] <vocx> XdorotaX, yes the kernels need to be removed with apt-get, aptitude or synaptic, they are called "linux-image-<version numbers>"
[12:12] <Electrosys> The 1152x864 screen resolution is not listed in the screen resolution in gnome. Is there any way I can add it? I am using fiesty.
[12:12] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/75753
[12:13] <XdorotaX> vocx: thankyou.
[12:13] <Cryoniq> Thanks guys. I found out im using the ATI radeon (generic) fr my ati9800 pro. Im preparing for gusty already and possible problems that can rise to surface with the upgrade etc already :)
[12:13] <esclavo> it must be writing if skipping, unless its in memory
[12:13] <Ashfire908> esclavo, shuting down should be ok. mp3 playuing is reading, not writeing. also, there is journaling system that should help protect it
[12:13] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: how can i check which group my DVD-drive is a part of?
[12:13] <Cryoniq> fr =for
[12:13] <esclavo> hmm good point
[12:13] <XdorotaX> =)
[12:14] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: right-clicking and checking the permissions
[12:14] <Willabee> I'm trying to install Beryl on Feisty with i810 drivers, but direct rendering is disabled
[12:14] <esclavo> reboot
[12:14] <esclavo> :X
[12:14] <Willabee> What driver should I get/how can I enable?
[12:14] <runemaste644> how do i get my computer recgonized by the windows computers on my network?
[12:14] <SpiffyBalak> esclavo: I think that's a curse word around here :)
[12:14] <esclavo> does it auto do fsck ashfire
[12:14] <brobostigon> samba
[12:14] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: how can i change the group membership for the drive?
[12:14] <Ashfire908> esclavo, sometimes. you can override it
[12:14] <esclavo> whats the sequence?
[12:15] <esclavo> i dont want it ot override...i wanted ot make sure it ran
[12:15] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: what does it say for the groups/users?
[12:15] <Ashfire908> esclavo, i don't know off hand. one sec
[12:15] <kelvin> #ubuntu-es
[12:15] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: for the dvd-drive for owner it is unknown
[12:15] <QubicX> Hello everyone ;-)
[12:15] <Ghozt> yo
[12:15] <sky1> I am using Edgy on my Lenovo T60, I am afraid upgrading to Fiesty Fawn would create problems, like I had when I tried to install Fiesty fawn in the first time
[12:15] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: you'd use a change group command. hold on...
[12:15] <Ashfire908> esclavo, by overriding i me forcing a check
[12:15] <sky1> should I make the upgrade ?
[12:15] <Ashfire908> *mean
[12:15] <Ghozt> Don't do it sky1! It will blow up your box!
[12:16] <Xero> How do I use multimedia keys in Songbird? The MMKeys works partially, but I want my Play/pause key. Sorry to repeat.
[12:16] <geo-rge> sky1: what do you use your machine for
[12:16] <geo-rge> it kinda depends on that
[12:16] <Ashfire908> esclavo, -f option does the force check on ext2/ext3
[12:16] <vocx> sky1, read info by other users in ubuntuforums.org Use the search fields to search for your hardware.
[12:16] <sky1> geo-rge, programming mostly,  and I also use messenger service
[12:16] <siloko> Electrosys: try looking in /etc/X11/xorg.conf checkout http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=454217 if you don't know what you are doing . . .
[12:17] <esclavo> i think starting in safe mode auto does fsck
[12:17] <Ghozt> There's no apt-get for ISPconfig, right?
[12:17] <sky1> geo-rge, I had trouble first time installing fiesty in it
[12:17] <Electrosys> siloko:Thanks...
[12:17] <geo-rge> if, for example, that machine supports 5,000 people in a large organization, I'd think really hard before upgrading :)
[12:17] <esclavo> ashfire, is that to ammend in grub?
[12:17] <sky1> geo-rge, no problems with edgy
[12:17] <Ashfire908> esclavo, no
[12:17] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: you'd use chown to change the user
[12:17] <Ashfire908> esclavo, you have to run it.
[12:17] <geo-rge> ok, the next question is, why are you considering an upgrade?
[12:17] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: would i change ownership of the drive itself?
[12:18] <HuricaneHarry> !enter | HuricaneHarry
[12:18] <SpiffyBalak> yers
[12:18] <SpiffyBalak> *yes
[12:18] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: the thing is i can mount the dvd and access the files using cedega
[12:18] <vocx> !who | geo-rge
[12:18] <ubotu> geo-rge: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:18] <Ashfire908> esclavo, recovery mode doesn't do it either. it just starts it without doing anything
[12:18] <cameran> !tab
[12:18] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:18] <sky1> geo-rge, no its installed in dual-bootup in my laptop
[12:18] <sky1> geo-rge, but can I do a rollback ?
[12:18] <esclavo> ash, so to do it effectively, do it before starting X11
[12:18] <geo-rge> not without backing up your hd
[12:18] <esclavo> right
[12:19] <Ashfire908> esclavo, just start it normally.
[12:19] <geo-rge> sky1: and that means backing up the whole drive, all of it, all partitions, the mbr, everything
[12:19] <sky1> geo-rge, which version do you use ?
[12:19] <Ashfire908> esclavo, the system should notice a error in the journal and fix it
[12:19] <sky1> is anyone here who uses Fiesty Fawn on Lenovo machines ?
[12:20] <geo-rge> none, I'm considering ubuntu
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> i'm sure somebody does, whats the question sky1?
[12:20] <trvr3307> gnomefreak: sorry for bugging you again, but this apt-get update isn't working again
[12:20] <geoff__> find package libdvdcss2.pc
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> trvr3307: are you using sudo?
[12:20] <trvr3307> IndyGunFreak: yes
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[12:21] <geo-rge> does ubuntu allow one to downgrade?
[12:21] <trvr3307> i can't ping us.archvie.ubuntu.com again
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> geo-rge: no
[12:21] <sky1> IndyGunFreak, I want to upgrade to 7.04, but when I tried to isntall it the first time I had trouble, but a lot of packages are made for 7.04 and it seems that when I download them it doesnt work in edgy(my current version)
[12:21] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: is it working?
[12:21] <geo-rge> trvr3307: yue hav to spel the site rite
[12:21] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: nope, same problem
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> sky1: wel, that would make sense
[12:21] <geoff__> uboyu find package libdvdcss2.pc
[12:21] <SpiffyBalak> you'd have to "sudo chown username /path/to/dvd"
[12:21] <trvr3307> geo-rge: my bad. i just spelled it wrong here. its correct in my sources.list
[12:21] <geoff__> ubotu find package libdvdcss2.pc
[12:21] <vocx> sky1, if you want newer packages use "backports"
[12:22] <ubotu> Found: kernel-package, arch-buildpackage, bzr-builddeb, cvs-buildpackage, darcs-buildpackage (and 14 others)
[12:22] <geo-rge> trvr3307: ok, hmm
[12:22] <sky1> IndyGunFreak, I dont know but I think Fiesty has issues with Lenovo T60 lol
[12:22] <Iceshadow> im having some issues getting alsa to recognize my USB SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit external. I've used it in gentoo, so I know it works under alsa under snd-usb-audio, but having some issues on how to get it recognized in Ubuntu. Any ideas would be appreciated.
[12:22] <Hilikus> how do i get the kernel source??
[12:22] <trvr3307> geo-rge: gnomefreak said something about it may be a DNS issue...
[12:22] <trvr3307> Firefox works fine
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> sky1: i dont' know, works fien on my old compaq laptop.
[12:22] <geoff__> ubotu find package libdvdcss2.pc
[12:22] <ubotu> Found: kernel-package, arch-buildpackage, bzr-builddeb, cvs-buildpackage, darcs-buildpackage (and 14 others)
[12:22] <napster> does anyone here use rhythmbox music player?
[12:22] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: ok give me a second
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> what specifically did it have a problem with?
[12:22] <Hilikus> im trying apt-get source ... but it cant find the package
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> napster: use it for what/
[12:23] <vocx> Hilikus, what do you want with it? If you have to ask than I'd say you are no kernel hacker.
[12:23] <thesaint4444> hi guys, has anyone got experience with postfix+courier imap+mysql? I am trying to set up my mail server but cant seem to connect....
[12:23] <geo-rge> trvr3307: what is your setup? do you have nat and several machines on a nat?
[12:23] <Hilikus> i need to compile a lirc kernel module
[12:23] <siloko> Hilikus: use synaptic - search for 'kernel source' :)
[12:23] <Oni-Dracula> I'm using Gutsy Gibbon beta and I was wondering if there was a reason why I cannot click on any menus or task items on the gnome panel
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> !lirc
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <Hilikus> i did
[12:23] <sky1> IndyGunFreak, I couldnt even install it, thats why I installed a later version of ubuntu following instructions http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.10_(Edgy_Eft)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60
[12:23] <trvr3307> geo-rge: i just have a wifi router, with two machines connected to it (one is OSX, other is ubuntu)
[12:23] <sky1> sorry earlier version
[12:24] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: i chowned the user, nothing, same problem
[12:24] <jackfusion> Dose any one know how to make xampp look at a different location for the htdocs and mysql?
[12:24] <napster> IndyGunFreak: Nothing in particular but when im listening 2 a song and i click view - song lyrics it says server did not respond and it used 2 work
[12:24] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: try the one for changing groups....let me get it
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> napster: hmm, never used that feature, sorry... I use amarok anyways
[12:24] <Hilikus> there's no kernel-source package
[12:24] <Ice|Home> im having some issues getting alsa to recognize my USB SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit external. I've used it in gentoo, so I know it works under alsa under snd-usb-audio, but having some issues on how to get it recognized in Ubuntu. Any ideas would be appreciated.
[12:24] <geo-rge> trvr3307: so the two machines  you have, connect with wireless?
[12:24] <trvr3307> geo-rge: yes
[12:24] <vocx> Hilikus, to compile kernel modules you do not need the kernel source, only the kernel headers, "sudo aptitude install linux-headers"
[12:24] <geo-rge> try linux-source
[12:24] <napster> IndyGunFreak: thnx anyway
[12:24] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: chgrp
[12:25] <geo-rge> well linux-source*
[12:25] <Ghozt> Okay, I'm trying to install ISPConfig on this new Ubuntu 7.04 server install. I can't find an apt-get for it. I have found a guide for installing but I don't know how to grab the tar.gz file from Sourceforge. Any help?
[12:25] <gnychis> I'm having boot problems, whenever I try to boot I get "File not found" ... which I think means it can't find the kernel.  But when I boot a live CD the kernel thats listed in GRUB is actually the kernel on my /boot partition
[12:25] <Ashfire908> is it possible to use two ppp connections at the same time and use them as a gateway?
[12:25] <CaBlGuY> I'm havin major problems playin DVD's here..  I've got all the packages installed that I need even the libdvdread3 and I'm still having issues.. Ogle just closes right away when I try to play one through it..  some help?
[12:25] <snowdonkey> Hey.  How do I tell "burn" utility what CD-ROM drive to use?
[12:25] <siloko> Hilikus: welll there's a kernel-source package  . . .
[12:25] <napster> can any1 help me out with a rhythmbox media player issue?
[12:26] <geoff__> ubotu find package libdvdcss2.pc
[12:26] <ubotu> Found: kernel-package, arch-buildpackage, bzr-builddeb, cvs-buildpackage, darcs-buildpackage (and 14 others)
[12:26] <Hilikus> im getting the headers
[12:26] <Hilikus> ill see if configure is happy with that
[12:26] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: still nothing
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> geoff__: what are you trhying to do?
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> anyone..   help with playing DVD's?
[12:27] <Ghozt> How can I grab a tar file off the net from command line?
[12:27] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: there is an old thread on this same problem here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26283.html
[12:27] <vocx> Hilikus, more importantly, you need the dependencies. Are you sure lirc isn't included in the kernel?
[12:27] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: chgrp plugdev /path
[12:27] <CoasterMaster> !dvd | CaBlGuY
[12:27] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:27] <geo-rge> Ghozt: depends on where it is (and on what kind of service)
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> CoasterMaster:  I done read all that and already got all of the packages installed..
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> see..
[12:27] <CaBlGuY> I'm havin major problems playin DVD's here..  I've got all the packages installed that I need even the libdvdread3 and I'm still having issues.. Ogle just closes right away when I try to play one through it..  some help?
[12:27] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone help me out with a postfix+imap setup problem?
[12:27] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: I guess it's Gnome
[12:27] <Ghozt> It's the ISPConfig file from sourceforge.
[12:28] <siloko> Ghozt: use 'wget <path to file>
[12:28] <jorge__> #ubuntu-br
[12:28] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: that is so weird, it was working perfectly not a few days ago
[12:28] <geoff__> install libdvdcss2  - I get a "missing" message from apt-get
[12:28] <Ghozt> Thanks. One more question if anyone can answer: (There's no apt-get for ISPConfig, right?)
[12:28] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: yeah, dvds are funny
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> CaBlGuY:  go here, and look at 1.7.4.2   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:28] <shaffy>  i am trying to run a perl script, but the instructions say i need to install "Config::Tiny, LWP::Simple and File::HomeDir" modules.   can anyone tell me how to install these perl modules?
[12:28] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: yesterday I had to fight tooth and nail to make sure nothing was starting when I put in a DVD movie other than VLC
[12:29] <Lax> Hello. Anyone got experience with Drjava and linux/ubuntu?
[12:29] <Hilikus> vocx lsmod | grep lirc is empty
[12:30] <vocx> shaffy, that is more of a question for Perl forums or irc channel. Isn't there a Perl FAQ in the net?
[12:30] <olive> s/win31
[12:30] <olive> oups
[12:30] <geo-rge> shaffy: try searching for the modules: apt-cache search libperl
[12:30] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: yeah i dont get it, it was fine just this past week.  i dont know what could have changed
[12:30] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: plugdev needs to be a group for it to work I think
[12:30] <vocx> Hilikus, you can install lirc from a package "aptitude search lirc"
[12:31] <Hilikus> i already did
[12:31] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: do you think that group got deleted or something?
[12:31] <Hilikus> but i think it doest install the kernel module
[12:31] <neverdie> mporw na rwthsw kati?
[12:31] <geo-rge> if a perl module is not present as a ubuntu package, you can either build it into one and install it, or just build the module against your installed perl
[12:32] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: yes
[12:32] <Flannel> shaffy: libconfig-tiny-perl, I dont know, and, libfile-homedir-perl
[12:32] <derrrface_> new to linux.... How can I add a "address bar" to my desktop panel????... Its a slow migration from windows. this is one feature I am truely frustrated not having... (amongst the 1000 other things I can NOT figure out) but am trying =)
[12:32] <krunk-> how would one install just one package from gutsy?
[12:32] <geo-rge> oh, my mistake, it's not libperl
[12:33] <Flannel> derrrface_: an address bar?
[12:33] <Lax> anyone know of a simple java editor with compiling options for ubuntu?
[12:33] <kitche> krunk-: you can't unless you don't want that program to work
[12:33] <LGM> hi all
[12:33] <derrrface_> yeah in windows I hd an address bar that would launch web address in whatever my default web browser was (firefox)
[12:33] <geo-rge> krunk: you'd have to backport it
[12:33] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: well i'll look into it. kind of getting tired of spending my weekends try to get basic things to work in ubuntu, and i'm a linux server admin at work too :(
[12:33] <krunk-> geo-rge: ah, I guess it's the 'ole home rolled source for me then
[12:33] <vocx> Lax, this question is asked over and over again in the Programming Talk subforum, in ubuntuforums.org
[12:34] <rw_afk> Hiya all
[12:34] <SpiffyBalak> cameran: get some rest. get a frozenbubble addiction :P
[12:34] <nullfs> I'm getting 'bash: java: command not found' Which java package do I need to install so that programs that require /usr/bin/java can run?
[12:34] <kitche> !java | nullfs
[12:34] <ubotu> nullfs: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:34] <Lax> ill check that out vocx
[12:34] <geo-rge> you get the gutsy source, look at its depends, install those on your feisty system, then try building the package
[12:34] <cameran> SpiffyBalak: anyway thanks for your time, i'm gonna do some more research on this
[12:34] <kst-> is there a way to specify an installation path when installing packages with apt-get/synaptic?
[12:34] <cameran> see ya
[12:34] <Flannel> krunk-: Which package?
[12:34] <LGM> I am trying to find a better free antivirs,  i have tryed avg and clamav any one got any ideas ?
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> CaBlGuY: did it work?
[12:35] <frostburn> antivirus for what?
[12:35] <shaffy> flannel, thanks a lot dude.  much appreciated.
[12:35] <geo-rge> LGM: what does "better" mean?
[12:35] <tarelerulz> How do you know something is make sound if you can't hear it. I am running flash player . I can't hear any sound. This seem to happen a lot with my usb sound card.  It seem like a lot of programs don't use it
[12:35] <LGM> better
[12:35] <derrrface_> Flannel: In windows I was able to have an address bar docked on my start menu bar which allowed me to type in whatever web address and have it launched in (default web browser)... would like to have this ability on the panel (where my quick launch icons are)
[12:35] <LGM> better - beater
[12:36] <shaffy> thanks vocx
[12:36] <kst-> is there something like daemon tools for linux? i want to mount an .iso and use it in a virtual cd drive
[12:36] <Flannel> derrrface_: Right click the panel, choose "add to panel"  see if there's something like that in there.
[12:36] <geo-rge> LGM: can't help you if you don't say what better means for this situation
[12:36] <shaffy> thanks geo-rge.  much appreciated
[12:36] <derrrface_> flannel: there isn't
[12:36] <vocx> shaffy, you are welcome
[12:36] <tomb0y> anytime i try to enable the nvidia driver under restricted drivers, X server keeps crashing with an error of (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (1, 1, 0x8000, 0x00000624, 0x000006e8)  any ideas ?
[12:37] <kitche> tomb0y: well that's not a error
[12:37] <CaBlGuY> yea IndyGunFreak thanks! ;)
[12:37] <tomb0y> kitche: well my screen stays blank as soon as i run gdm.
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> CaBlGuY: ok... guess you just gotta know where to look for things.. :)
[12:37] <LGM> i am looking for antiviurs that will scan file and folders on local workstaion and on network shears and windows boxes
[12:38] <kitche> tomb0y: that's a bug in the nvidia driver that ubuntu uses
[12:38] <CaBlGuY> IndyGunFreak:  yea, that's the key...  I was having problems installing the secind lib so that helped..  ;)
[12:38] <AMDfanboy> hey everyone, i can't figure out how to install the iP1500 canon printer, it supposedly works, http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1500  i just can't figure out how to do it!  i've read some things and they've all been dead ends.  anyone know?
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> yup.
[12:38] <tomb0y> kitche: any suggestions as for a workaround? url?
[12:38] <LGM> cups
[12:38] <Willabee> So
[12:38] <AMDfanboy> right, its not listed in CUPS
[12:38] <kitche> tomb0y: install nvidia driver from their website
[12:38] <Willabee> I just tried to install Beryl
[12:38] <Willabee> and now all my title bars are gone
[12:39] <AMDfanboy> other canon pixma printers are, but not this one
[12:39] <vocx> !effects | Willabee
[12:39] <ubotu> Willabee: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:39] <kitche> tomb0y: I know they fixed that bug just that ubuntu still is using the bugged version
[12:39] <geo-rge> Willabee: someone recently told me that they stopped working on and supporting beryl
[12:39] <tomb0y> kitche: hmm, well i know i tried the program Envy, though that had the same problem.
[12:40] <griznok> AMDfanboy: well Gutsy beta recognized my MP150 immediately... not sure about the P1500
[12:40] <doolga> hello
[12:41] <napster> where can i get plugins for rhythmbox media player from?
[12:41] <AMDfanboy> huh, fiesty didn't recognize it?
[12:41] <doolga> i am a new user need help with installation
[12:41] <griznok> I've got a noob question: how do I load those icon sets (is there a directory I need to extract everything to?)
[12:42] <griznok> AMDfanboy: err.. probably Fiesty did... cant remember though
[12:42] <vocx> doolga, check ubuntuforums.org there is a section About Installations and Upgrades.
[12:42] <maddog39> ugh... hello, synaptic keeps telling me it needs to remove libdbus and nautilus-burn in order to install vmware-server which doesnt make any sense, what the heck is going on :/
[12:42] <cafuego> griznok: Normally you just drop the archove on the themes control pannel window
[12:42] <leperkhanz> Hi, I wanted to let some Ubuntu devs know about some bugs in gutsy:
[12:43] <leperkhanz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/147354/
[12:43] <leperkhanz> Please feel free to enjoy them.
[12:43] <AndrewB> leperkhanz: better in #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <tarelerulz> my lan port don't work under Windows or ubuntu ? How can you tell if it just a software glitch or really messed up
[12:43] <griznok> cafuego: thanks... I'll give that a try
[12:43] <leperkhanz> AndrewB: Left it there, too. :)
[12:43] <maddog39> then its refusing to install vmware-server
[12:43] <AMDfanboy> well, actually, fiesty does recognize the MP150.
[12:44] <AndrewEMT> hi
[12:44] <AndrewEMT> I'm back again
[12:44] <klick> hey all, i just did an upgrade from feisty to gusty, and I have an intel 915gm vid card, and after the upgrade it seems rendering is disabled but it looks like the 915 module is still loaded, any clues why?
[12:45] <griznok> cafuego: thanks... it worked
[12:45] <vocx> klick, we do not support gutsy here... but check other modules loaded in the X logs.
[12:46] <Ant1jr> we dont support gutsy here, but here is some support
[12:46] <niekie> Hmm..
[12:46] <niekie> What does it mean when something is "deferred"?
[12:46] <AndrewB> Delayed
[12:46] <Lax> "java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError" whats wrong with this?
[12:46] <niekie> I see.
[12:46] <AndrewEMT> I can't remember who was helping me before
[12:46] <oxeimon> anyone have any idea why my wireless screws up every time I change networks?
[12:47] <AndrewB> AndrewEMT: what was it reguarding?
[12:47] <Ant1jr> holy !@#$ 1121people in room
[12:47] <AndrewEMT> Ubuntu
[12:47] <FurryNemesis> hello
[12:47] <AndrewB> AndrewEMT: it has had alot more ;)
[12:47] <MoonBay> @@
[12:47] <AndrewB> eh..
[12:47] <MoonBay> 1122
[12:47] <AndrewB> I ment Ant1jr
[12:47] <niekie> So when something says it is executing deferred tasks, it means that it is executing previously ignored tasks, right?
[12:47] <AndrewB> niekie: yeah I would assume so.
[12:47] <AndrewEMT> I don't think I'm in the right spot...
[12:47] <AndrewEMT> sry
[12:47] <FurryNemesis> anyone know a good program, preferably w/gui frontend, that can record video from my webcam?
[12:47] <niekie> AndrewB: thanks :-)
[12:48] <AndrewB> Ant1jr: 23:47 -!- Irssi: Peak for #ubuntu@freenode: 1604 (Thu Apr 19 15:32:42 2007)
[12:48] <oxeimon> whenever I suspend my computer, move it somewhere else, and open it up and try to connect to a new wireless network, it won't connect...
[12:48] <flamedryad> hi ya'lll
[12:48] <FurryNemesis> oxeimon, on the same network?
[12:48] <flamedryad> trying to stream quicktime
[12:49] <oxeimon> well, I'm on a campus network
[12:49] <oxeimon> so I think it's the same network
[12:49] <oxeimon> though I'd be working under different wireless routers
[12:49] <d3visi0n> Hm, anyone know if compiz-fusion works well with dual monitors?
[12:49] <AndrewB> !quicktime > flamedryad (See pm flamedryad)
[12:49] <FurryNemesis> there's your problem, probably
[12:49] <Rizzla> hey does anyone know of an app to watch tv?  I have a hauppague card but dont know what app i should use to watch tv with
[12:50] <AndrewB> Rizzla: I use tvtime
[12:50] <FurryNemesis> mythtv!
[12:50] <hellhoundp2k> Hey everyone! Can anyone help me with a quick question about OpenOffice.org? Or is there a specific channel for it?
[12:50] <oxeimon> FurryNemesis: what's my problem?
[12:50] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: ask away :)
[12:50] <niekie> Does anyone know what it means when I have a /dev/hwrng device?
[12:50] <oxeimon> FurryNemesis: is there any way to restart my wireless card without restarting my computer?
[12:50] <FurryNemesis> oxeimon, it probably doesn't like skipping to another router
[12:50] <Rizzla> is mythtv hard to setup?
[12:50] <Ant1jr> I use vlc to watch tv
[12:50] <oxeimon> umm...that shouldn't be the case though
[12:50] <AndrewB> Rizzla: nope not very
[12:50] <FurryNemesis> oxeimon, yes - is it a pcmcia card?
[12:50] <oxeimon> when I had XP, I had no problems swithcing routers
[12:51] <AndrewB> Rizzla: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:51] <hellhoundp2k> AndrewB: Well, OpenOffice Word Processor starts up, and the document page in page layout is kindof to the left. I'd like it to sit in the center, like Microsoft Office Word does. Is this a setting I can adjust?
[12:51] <giuseppe_> hilfe fur kopete
[12:51] <Rizzla> will do, thanks
[12:51] <oxeimon> FurryNemesis: How can I tell? I just know that back when I had windows XP installed, I never used to have these kinds of problems
[12:51] <AndrewB> !de | giuseppe_
[12:51] <ubotu> giuseppe_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:52] <FurryNemesis> ok, do you have to plug the card in to the side?
[12:52] <etale> I'm having a really hard time with my thinkpad x61 getting ethernet... does anyone else in here use one? I can't find anything on the internet about this problem... internet doesn't even work in knoppix for me, but forums all suggest that dhcp/ethernet should work out of the box for a thinkpad x61
[12:52] <hellhoundp2k> oxeimon: Linux isn't as easy as windows :P One thing you should get used to
[12:52] <oxeimon> FurryNemesis: Nope
[12:52] <etale> any help?
[12:52] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/Editing_Default_Styles_and_Using_Templates looks like it might be the answer.
[12:52] <FurryNemesis> ok, it's built in then
[12:52] <oxeimon> hellhoundp2k: Hahaha tru dat. Though it's much easier to connect to other linuxes than it is for windows to connect to other windows...
[12:53] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hello short question, is it possible two have two compleely different themes stored on an ubuntu computer, without changing the user ? i want a standard (work) theme but a second one to watch movies, play around with, they would have different panels and all but I would like to use the same user?
[12:53] <oxeimon> Is there any way of manually restarting my network card?
[12:53] <FurryNemesis> oxeimon, do you use the network manager to connect, and have you tried selecting the new router from there?
[12:53] <turnip> Hi - I tried to hibernate my new laptop and when I turned it back on it failed to boot continually. I managed to get it to boot by removing the power cable and the battery and but now it will only boot about 1/4 of the time - what can I do to fix this? It seems like there's something screwed with the BIOS, it doesn't even get to GRUB.
[12:53] <oxeimon> I don't know what you mean by network manager
[12:54] <oxeimon> I just go to System->Administration->Network
[12:54] <Rizzla> one other quick question, where can i get good general video codecs?  is there a repo with a good video codec set (divx, etc)
[12:54] <AndrewB> turnip: make sure the harddrive is the dafault boot device in the bios. Do you get any errors or anything?
[12:54] <oxeimon> or I just click on the wireless icon on the top right corner of the screen
[12:54] <hellhoundp2k> Thanks AndrewB, I'll look through it :)
[12:54] <frostburn> that's network manager
[12:54] <FurryNemesis> ok, when you do that, that's network manager
[12:54] <AndrewB> !multimedia > Rizzla ( see pm)
[12:54] <oxeimon> ah k
[12:55] <oxeimon> well, I don't know how to select a *new* router from there...
[12:55] <FurryNemesis> does it see the new router when you move locations?
[12:55] <turnip> AndrewB: No errors, I just get a flashing underscore. I do recall that the CD drive is still the default boot device so I could try that - but it was fine before I hibernated
[12:55] <FurryNemesis> or is it the same connection?
[12:55] <oxeimon> basically, the network name is "Kiewit Wireless", wherever I go
[12:55] <ibilic> how do I create a fat32 partition on my new hard disk?
[12:55] <oxeimon> well, the thing is, I can't tell if it's a new router
[12:55] <ibilic> I have qtparted
[12:55] <oxeimon> because they're all called the same thing
[12:55] <FurryNemesis> that's ok
[12:55] <ibilic> but when I try
[12:55] <ibilic> it just doesn't want to format
[12:55] <krunk-> woot! fixed my 3tb partition woes and it came down a bug of the ubuntu release of parted
[12:55] <AndrewB> turnip: sounds like a hardware fault more than ubuntu, maybe the cold boot was nothing to do with it.
[12:55] <com64> hey can anybody help me? gnome graphically died on me yesterday for no reason and I can't get it going again - panels, icons, everything - gone.
[12:56] <FurryNemesis> if you highlight wireless and then go to properties
[12:56] <SpiffyBalak> com64: try reinstalling Gnome?
[12:56] <AndrewB> !gparted | ibilic
[12:56] <ubotu> ibilic: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:56] <Rizzla> andrewb, i use mplayer as my player and i tried watching some movie files but it said i didnt have the right codec installed
[12:56] <FurryNemesis> and then hit the down tab to the right
[12:56] <AndrewB> ibilic: or make a partition then mke.fatx   iirc
[12:56] <com64> did that last time - this is the second time this has happened
[12:56] <FurryNemesis> you'll see networks listed by essid
[12:56] <AndrewB> Rizzla: what file extension was the file?
[12:56] <oxeimon> oh
[12:56] <Rizzla> avi
[12:56] <oxeimon> so I shouldn't have "enable roaming mode" checked?
[12:56] <turnip> AndrewB: This laptop was brand new on Wednesday... do you think re-flashing the BIOS might help?#
[12:57] <krunk-> I advise not using the parted/gparted programs for ubuntu for anything other the straight vanilla msdos labeled partitions
[12:57] <FurryNemesis> possibly not a good idea
[12:57] <AndrewB> turnip: I don't know, though that can possibly be dangerous.
[12:57] <hellhoundp2k> AndrewB: That resource you gave me actually just gives you information about how to style the document. I'd like the document itself to be positioned a little more centered on the page.
[12:57] <FurryNemesis> it certainly doesn't work for me.....
[12:57] <Rizzla> its an xvid avi file
[12:57] <speedy> i'm setting eth0 to 192.168.0.99 and an IP alias eth0:0 to 192.168.0.100, outgoing connection using 192.168.0.100, how can i set it to use 192.168.0.99 ?
[12:57] <FurryNemesis> if you get out of that mode and try and select your old network
[12:57] <oxeimon> you mean roaming mode doesn't work for you either?
[12:57] <FurryNemesis> that might just do it
[12:57] <oxeimon> I see.
[12:57] <oxeimon> hmm
[12:57] <FurryNemesis> nope, because of authentication
[12:58] <oxeimon> well, I can't test this here, I'd have to go somewhere else to test if this works
[12:58] <FurryNemesis> nuts
[12:58] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: I'm not 100% sure, I don't really use openoffic
[12:58] <geo-rge> it seems the wiki doesn't have the xen on edgy page; can someone update the factoid please?
[12:58] <FurryNemesis> well, if coming out of roaming mode doesn't work, try the forums
[12:58] <oxeimon> so I guess if it doesn't, someone else will have to put up with my complaining
[12:58] <oxeimon> k
[12:59] <oxeimon> thanks :-D
[12:59] <FurryNemesis> ubuntuforums.org if you need further help
[12:59] <hellhoundp2k> AndrewB: Okay :) Thanks for your assistance
[12:59] <FurryNemesis> np
[12:59] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: could try #openoffice.org
[01:00] <AndrewEMT> is someone available to help me install ubuntu?
[01:00] <professor_> ssure andrew
[01:00] <professor_> whats up
[01:00] <AndrewEMT> Okay
[01:00] <AndrewEMT> I'm in ubuntu "live" mode now
[01:01] <AndrewEMT> I can't get it to go past the partition screen
[01:01] <professor_> ok
[01:01] <professor_> give me an istant message
[01:01] <AndrewEMT> I'm trying to install it to my hard drive over windows
[01:01] <Oval> Hi guys,.
[01:02] <professor_> check the private chat andrew
[01:02] <Oval> Is there a quick check that I can run without installing anything to get an HTTP response on port 80?
[01:02] <professor_> I just sent you one
[01:02] <AndrewEMT> I just did
[01:02] <AndrewEMT> I sent you one
[01:02] <Flannel> Oval: What?  What sort of response are you looking for?
[01:02] <AndrewEMT> I'm new to xchat
[01:02] <AndrewEMT> I need help
[01:02] <professor> ok
[01:02] <professor> i sent you a private chat
[01:02] <AndrewEMT> I don't know where to look
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> I used to use mIRE
[01:03] <professor> on the left
[01:03] <Cryoniq> How do I remove programs I installed with gdebi-gtk?
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> mIRC
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> but it won't install on Ubuntu
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> :(
[01:03] <professor> right click my screen name and go to private chat
[01:03] <Flannel> AndrewEMT, professor, queries won't work unless you're registered in freenode.  Just talk here.
[01:03] <professor> ohhh
[01:03] <professor> thanks
[01:03] <HuricaneHarry> hellhoundp2k: try view -> zoom -> pagewidth
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> i did
[01:03] <professor> ok andrew
[01:03] <AndrewEMT> I just sent you one
[01:04] <vocx> !register | professor AndrewEMT
[01:04] <ubotu> professor AndrewEMT: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:04] <Absenth> how do I configure buttons 4 and 5 on my mouse to be forward and backward in firefox?
[01:04] <geo-rge> professor, AndrewEMT: you both have to register with nickserv if you haven't already, and/or identify to nickserv
[01:04] <Hilikus> is it ITV menu??
[01:04] <professor> andrew what are you triying to do fresh install over windows
[01:04] <AndrewEMT> Yes
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> I can't get the pmer to work
[01:05] <professor> ok thats real easy
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> I'm sorry
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> What do I do
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> Give me step by step
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> I'm lost
[01:05] <HuricaneHarry> clear
[01:05] <hellhoundp2k> HuricaneHarry: That works, but it makes the document zoom much bigger than I'd like.
[01:05] <professor> double click the install button
[01:05] <professor> and hten read to me what you see
[01:05] <AndrewEMT> ok
[01:06] <AndrewEMT> Welcome screen
[01:06] <Flannel> AndrewEMT: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall  is a step by step guide
[01:06] <professor> ok
[01:06] <AndrewEMT> you there professor
[01:06] <professor> yes
[01:06] <AndrewEMT> next
[01:06] <tussey> !dvd
[01:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:07] <Oval> Flannel: Sorry about that.  I just want to see if I can run a service on port 80 and have it respond properly, I'm testing some network settings.
[01:07] <professor> ok walk through
[01:07] <Oval> Basically checking if my NAT work.
[01:07] <Oval> *works
[01:07] <AndrewEMT> I'm at select location screen
[01:07] <professor> ok
[01:07] <AndrewEMT> and choosing
[01:07] <professor> keep going
[01:07] <professor> is this a desktop
[01:07] <professor> or a laptop
[01:07] <HuricaneHarry> hellhoundp2k: Try sending a request to openoffice.org, i don't think it's possible at this time.
[01:07] <AndrewEMT> Laptop
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> I'm at partition screen
[01:08] <professor> what brand
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> That's where I'm stuck
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> HP
[01:08] <professor> cause you may be tring to pull your hair out to get the wireless card to work
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> nope
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> it works
[01:08] <professor> wher are you stuck
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> At partition screen
[01:08] <professor> ok
[01:08] <AndrewEMT> It keeps saying no root system defined
[01:09] <AndrewEMT> or something like that
[01:09] <geo-rge> deciding how to partition?
[01:09] <professor> you want to partition the whole thing
[01:09] <AndrewEMT> Yes
[01:09] <professor> use entire disk
[01:09] <professor> is the option
[01:09] <AndrewEMT> I want everything overwritten
[01:09] <geo-rge> you sure about that?
[01:09] <airstrike> anyone knows how to make my built-in webcam work?:~
[01:09] <SpiffyBalak> did you back up all of your personal data?
[01:09] <geo-rge> because it -will- overwrite -everything- on the drive
[01:10] <tussey> this line in the wiki needs to be changed
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> okay
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> I got it
[01:10] <professor> cool
[01:10] <tussey> from sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh to sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> thatnk you :)
[01:10] <professor>  go to next
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> thank*
[01:10] <professor> and letme know the screen
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> its installing
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> :)
[01:10] <AndrewEMT> ty
[01:10] <professor> what type of wireless card do you have
[01:10] <professor> welcome
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> dunno
[01:11] <professor> lol
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> intel something
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> I think
[01:11] <professor> yea its a broadcom
[01:11] <professor> card
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> I dunno
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> it may not be intel
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> I think
[01:11] <professor> they are a pain in the ass to get working on ubuntu
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> but don't entirely know
[01:11] <professor> I have tried
[01:11] <professor> then I just bought a pci card
[01:11] <AndrewEMT> I'm connecting to internet just fine
[01:11] <geo-rge> AndrewEMT: it just worked?
[01:11] <AndrewB> !enter > AndrewEMT
[01:11] <professor> are you plugged into it
[01:11] <professor> through a cable
[01:12] <AndrewEMT> yes
[01:12] <professor> no wireless in ubuntu "just works"
[01:12] <professor> then that is how you are getting your internet
[01:12] <professor> not through the wireless
[01:12] <professor> trust me
[01:12] <AndrewEMT> right
[01:12] <professor> after you get that working
[01:12] <professor> you will feel like you took over the world
[01:13] <professor> cause its real hard to do
[01:13] <professor> on a hp
[01:13] <professor> compaq
[01:13] <professor> acer
[01:13] <__mikem> professor, what would be nice is if by the next release of ubuntu, xserver-xorg fixed that little problem where the video cards that ship with the current line of hp pavilions don't work with X out of the box
[01:13] <kitche> !enter | professor
[01:13] <ubotu> professor: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:13] <AndrewEMT> I'll figure it out
[01:13] <geo-rge> might as well install most of the stuff first and reboot into your ubuntu and then get your wireless going after you have all those tools
[01:13] <hellhoundp2k> kitche: Beat me to it :P
[01:13] <Smegzor> I have two servers running ubuntu.  This one has a monitor, keyboard, and mouse but the other one on my network has none of that.  I can login to its desktop via Cygwin on Windows, but I want to be able to do that same thing from this Linux box.  How do I get a remote gui login from here?
[01:13] <professor> __mikem it would also be great if they had a fix for the broadcom wireless card set
[01:13] <marti149> what voice recording software is available for ubuntu. want to record to mp3
[01:13] <professor> I love ubuntu
[01:14] <AndrewEMT> I do too, already. It's way better than Windows
[01:14] <Alfadir> would love ubuntu  if I had sound in steam :p
[01:14] <__mikem> professor, yes, I am just living without that. They did have a fix for it, but I can't remember it
[01:14] <professor> its just a pain to get this card to work, and I have tried all those walk throughs
[01:14] <professor> lol
[01:14] <SpiffyBalak> maril49: Audacity and Sweep
[01:14] <marti149> what voice recording software is available for ubuntu. want to record to mp3
[01:14] <orangefly> how do i connect mythtv to a network windows share
[01:14] <marti149> audacity?
[01:14] <professor> use a pci car it is less hassle
[01:14] <marti149> for ubuntu?
[01:14] <geo-rge> Smegzor: as root try this: X :1 vt8 -query (the machine ip)
[01:14] <orangefly> yes.....
[01:14] <SpiffyBalak> yes
[01:14] <AndrewEMT> Like I said, I'm connecting through a cable, I don't use my wireless
[01:15] <SpiffyBalak> it runs on Linux too
[01:15] <professor> its a great operating system, they should make a special version for laptops
[01:15] <AndrewEMT> I'll get it running
[01:15] <Smegzor> thanks.  trying now..
[01:15] <marti149> thanks
[01:15] <professor> Andrew not to discorage you but good luck
[01:15] <geo-rge> Smegzor: and man X makes good reading too..
[01:15] <SpiffyBalak> one simple sound recorder is gnome-sound-recorder
[01:15] <SpiffyBalak> apt-get it
[01:15] <professor> if you get it working, let me know what broadcom chip set you have
[01:16] <el_pello> HOLA
[01:16] <professor> and how you did it
[01:16] <marti149> that was quick. there isnt anything I cant do yet on ubuntu....
[01:16] <Cryoniq> ouff.. trying to de-install wmvare which I installed using their own install script etc.. i feel... clueless what I should do to remove it.. hmm..
[01:16] <el_pello> necesito un poko de ayuda
[01:16] <LGM> is there a list of apt soreces  for applications
[01:16] <macd> !es | el_pello
[01:16] <ubotu> el_pello: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:16] <professor> marti do you have a laptop
[01:17] <macd> Cryoniq, tried reading the howto uninstall on vmwares site yet? (its pretty clearly outlined)
[01:17] <Cryoniq> ok.. not totaly clueless.. guess its time to google wmvare howto deinstall :)
[01:17] <professor> virtual box I think is better than vm ware
[01:17] <zmp> if new to linux, would ubuntu be a good choice?
[01:17] <professor> yes very good coce
[01:17] <professor> choice*
[01:17] <geo-rge> new to unix too?
[01:17] <zmp> okay :)
[01:17] <zmp> yea
[01:17] <Cryoniq> macd: oh.. ah.. I see.. nice.. *cough* thanks :) *blush*
[01:17] <__mikem> zmp, don't you think we might be a bit biased
[01:17] <professor> I have tried to install unix
[01:17] <adnyar> i am BANNED
[01:17] <el_pello> I need to install java environment
[01:18] <el_pello> and i can't
[01:18] <__mad> if i change my kernel from 2.6.20-15-generic to a i686 would i gain some performance?
[01:18] <professor> I keep getting stuck
[01:18] <professor> it confuses me
[01:18] <orangefly> how do i connect mythtv to a network windows share
[01:18] <professor> ll
[01:18] <AndrewB> adnyar: from?
[01:18] <ivx> hey what port is it you are suppose to connect to freenode one to avoid any problems
[01:18] <macd> !java > el_pello see the private message from uboto
[01:18] <hellhoundp2k> Hey guys, what's the command to launch nautilus with sudo privleges again?
[01:18] <Flannel> __mad: generic is optimized for 686, so no.
[01:18] <ivx> hellhoundp2k sudo nautilus
[01:18] <macd> hellhoundp2k, gksudo nautilus
[01:18] <__mad> thanks
[01:18] <wwalker> I have to setup outgoing mail from postfix to use port 587, SMTP Auth, PLAIN.  anyone know the proper way to do that in Ubuntu?  (I moved over from Fedora / sendmail where it's uncomment one line, I assume it's also easy in Ubuntu but I don't see it)
[01:18] <kitche> hellhoundp2k: gksu nautilus remember to be careful :)
[01:18] <warrior> escuze me a one p2p for linux?
[01:18] <hellhoundp2k> macd That's the one I was looking for :) Thanks
[01:19] <hellhoundp2k> kitche: I am :)
[01:19] <BlaenkDenum> warrior: what?
[01:19] <Smegzor2> heh  ok  now that I have an X windows session to my other box, how do I swap between it and my first machine?  I am currently stuck in the remote X windows session - HALP!
[01:19] <__mikem> lol at BlaenkDenum and warrior
[01:19] <BlaenkDenum> __mikem: what
[01:19] <Dr_willis> Smegzor2,  using the xdmcp stuff? try alt-ctrl-F7 and F8 ?
[01:19] <warrior> a one p2p for ubuntu similar bear share for windows....
[01:20] <BlaenkDenum> warrior: www.frostwire.com
[01:20] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[01:20] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[01:20] <Smegzor> yay!  I've escaped!
[01:20] <Dr_willis> Smegzor,  :)
[01:20] <__mikem> I am currently at USF, so I can't use P2P networks
[01:20] <geo-rge> Smegzor2: the remote is on F8, the local is on F7
[01:20] <Smegzor> thanks! Now I can ditch Cygwin =)
[01:20] <Dr_willis> Smegzor,  with 'xming' under windows - you can do a similer thing with a windows machine.
[01:20] <warrior> similar bear share....
[01:21] <geo-rge> Smegzor: you can also try xnest
[01:21] <geo-rge> instead of X
[01:21] <Peppery> Can anyone help me with my problem(s)? I think they're all HAL-related -- http://pastebin.ca/721112
[01:21] <el_pello> necesito ayudaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:21] <Smegzor> I'm actually a Windows user *ducks* but my file servers are all Ubuntu and my next pc is gonna be Ubuntu =D
[01:21] <__mikem> el_pello please fix your keyboard
[01:21] <geo-rge> again reading man X and man xnest good things
[01:22] <professor> how the heck do you get dvds to run in linux
[01:22] <__mikem> !dvd
[01:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:22] <professor> I have downloaded al the players but it still says that I am missing the codecs
[01:22] <ivx> hey does anyone know about using broadcom 4318 with firmware, i can get it working with ndis wrapper, but when i try to do it with the firmware the mouse goes crazy, like shoots all over the place and stops working sometimes
[01:22] <Lax> hi anyone know if i can make the beryl cube display planes (with nothing on the "taskbar")
[01:22] <el_pello> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[01:22] <AndrewB> !dvd > professor (see pm)
[01:22] <__mikem> !es | el_pello
[01:22] <ubotu> el_pello: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:22] <Kevbo> can someone tell me if I am in the Ubuntu room?
[01:22] <professor> what
[01:23] <macd> el_pello, we dont speak spanish here, join #ubuntu-es for help in spanish
[01:23] <preaction> Kevbo, yes
[01:23] <ShiftyPowers> anyone have experience setting up proftpd?
[01:23] <AndrewB> Kevbo: you are
[01:23] <professor> this is america, speak english
[01:23] <ShiftyPowers> i can't get any clients to list a directory
[01:23] <Kevbo> preaction ....thanks
[01:23] <__mikem> macd I don't think he speaks english
[01:23] <macd> __mikem, yeah hes been talking in both
[01:23] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[01:23] <warrior> do not open frostwire.com.........
[01:23] <geo-rge> professor: wow, is everyone here in america? btw, north or south?
[01:23] <__mikem> warrior why not?
[01:24] <AndrewB> warrior: why not? It works here.
[01:24] <warrior> HELP ME PLEASE1111111111111111111
[01:24] <Kevbo> I am having trouble with evolution, how can I change my pop and smtp settings... I beleive Ihave to use a specific port
[01:24] <AndrewB> !caps | warrior
[01:24] <__mikem> !caps | warrior
[01:24] <ubotu> warrior: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:24] <warrior> ok
[01:24] <warrior> please help me
[01:24] <AndrewB> geo-rge: no, from everywhere. Personally Scotland, UK ;)
[01:24] <leo_rockw> i installed uswsusp and hibernate works but resume doesn't. i get a regular boot and swap doesn't get loaded. what am i doing wrong?
[01:24] <AndrewB> warrior: what is up? Ask your question.
[01:24] <Peppery> When loading up Ubuntu on my Compaq Presario F502AU laptop, I get an error message saying "Failed initializing HAL". When trying to load network-admin from GDM I get a window that says "Your configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration" and if I run it from the command line: http://pastebin.ca/721117 - I also get this error when trying to start Compiz Fusion: "Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_b
[01:26] <leo_rockw> !uswsusp
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uswsusp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <sotec_prod> best media manager for Ubuntu/gnome?
[01:26] <SpiffyBalak> Banshee or Rhythmbox
[01:26] <AndrewB> Banshee ;)
[01:26] <sotec_prod> not amarok?
[01:26] <professor> ok question here, dell putting ubuntu on their computers , good move for linux or bad
[01:26] <hjmills> is there anything faster than xdmcp?
[01:27] <AndrewB> professor: that should be in -offtopic
[01:27] <professor> true
[01:27] <hjmills> professor, good, people are more likely to hear about it and possibly give it a try
[01:27] <__mikem> professor, I call it a good move, because dell appears to be doing well with their decision to OEM ubuntu
[01:27] <leo_rockw> amarok is qt
[01:27] <MKS4FUN> getautomatix... what happened??!?!!? I can't get the website!
[01:27] <professor> yea maybe drivers will become available
[01:28] <SpiffyBalak> Vista's disappointing a lot of people
[01:28] <h|barbobot> hey guys i just upgraded to gutsy, i have a dual monitor setup and now when i maximize the window it goes over both monitors whereas before it would only open in one. Is there a way to get it back to the previous behavior?
[01:28] <MKS4FUN> Any suggestions?
[01:28] <AndrewB> !gutsy | h|barbobot
[01:28] <ubotu> h|barbobot: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <__mikem> SpiffyBalak, no really, you think
[01:28] <gnomefreak> !automatix | MKS4FUN
[01:28] <ubotu> MKS4FUN: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:28] <Cryoniq> macd: Worked out nice. Thanks :)
[01:28] <hjmills> does anybody have any good ideas for keeping two calendars in evolution in sync with each other and with a google calendar?
[01:29] <Peppery> When loading up Ubuntu on my Compaq Presario F502AU laptop, I get an error message saying "Failed initializing HAL". When trying to load network-admin from GDM I get a window that says "Your configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration" and if I run it from the command line: http://pastebin.ca/721117 - I also get this error when trying to start Compiz Fusion: "Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_b
[01:29] <IpMooBeta> ubotu:   im running 7.10
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about im running 7.10 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <leo_rockw> IpMooBeta, ubotu is a bot
[01:29] <IpMooBeta> ty
[01:30] <kelvin> #ubuntu
[01:30] <IpMooBeta> anyhow 7.10 seems ok but i have a pidgin dalnet issue
[01:30] <AndrewB> !hi | kelvin
[01:30] <Sanne> hi, I need to install the csh shell to run a script. Can I just install the csh package, or would that mess something up in my system regarding the default bash shell (in Dapper)?
[01:30] <kelvin> #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <ubotu> kelvin: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:30] <sotec_prod> ok, i'll give banshee a shot
[01:30] <sotec_prod> thanks guys
[01:31] <HuricaneHarry> wwalker: man transport 5
[01:31] <taime1> can someone please help me get my sound working on my laptop? the card just isnt recognized by alsa but lspci sees it. the modules are loaded for my card, yet still, my computer thinks i dont have a sound device...
[01:32] <maynards-girl> what program can i use to play a dvd?
[01:32] <Peppery> When loading up Ubuntu on my laptop, I get an error message saying "Failed initializing HAL". When trying to load network-admin from GDM I get a window that says "Your configuration could not be loaded, you are not allowed to access the system configuration" and if I run it from the command line: http://pastebin.ca/721117 - I also get this error when trying to start Compiz Fusion: "Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file
[01:32] <Peppery> maynards-girl: VLC
[01:32] <AndrewB> !dvd > maynards-girl (see pm)
[01:32] <amro> hi,when I ./configure tor , it asking me about the openssl-dir,where can I find it ?thx
[01:32] <nvictor> hello all
[01:32] <Peppery> hey
[01:32] <Peppery> amro: whereis openssl
[01:32] <maynards-girl> thank you
[01:32] <nvictor> is there a command line tool that renders accented character under linux?
[01:33] <amro> Peppery,I do not know..
[01:33] <AndrewB> amro: no, thats a command.
[01:33] <Peppery> amro: Try 'whereis openssl' on a command line
[01:33] <amro> Peppery,thx ;)
[01:33] <Peppery> peppery@hyperion:~$ whereis openssl | openssl: /usr/include/openssl :p
[01:33] <Rizzla> has anyone had success restoring a previous backup of a thunderbird profile in ubuntu
[01:33] <GarryFre> Hal2000: What you doin Dave?" Dave "I'm installing windows Hal." Hal: "I'm ... afraid ... Dave! .. stop ... Dave! .. Please stop Dave!"
[01:33] <Rizzla> i tried going through the profile manager
[01:34] <Peppery> ahahaha GarryFre
[01:34] <Ant1jr> what?
[01:34] <nvictor> so it's no?
[01:34] <amro> Peppery,thx,it works :)
[01:34] <GarryFre> Peppery :)
[01:34] <Peppery> amro: no problem ;)
[01:35] <nvictor> no command line tool that accepts accented characters?
[01:35] <AndrewB> nvictor: what do you mean 'accepts'?
[01:35] <taime1> why doesnt alsa see my card or modules???
[01:35] <Peppery> taime1: Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
[01:35] <Dead2Fall> i think someone hacked me with an ubuntu
[01:35] <Dead2Fall> plz help
[01:35] <leo_rockw> i installed uswsusp and hibernate works but resume doesn't. i get a regular boot and swap doesn't get loaded (it FAILS). what am i doing wrong?
[01:35] <Ant1jr> all command line tools emulate the same command lline, so you're not gonna be able to use accents
[01:35] <taime1> i have tried everything you can think of
[01:35] <Rizzla> Anyone else get this error from thunderbird profile manager?  "Thunderbird cannot use the profile "Default user" because it is in use.  To continue close the running instance of Thunderbird or choose a different profile."
[01:36] <hellhoundp2k> Dead2Fall: What operating system are you using?
[01:36] <nvictor> I see
[01:36] <Peppery> Dead2Fall: with an ubuntu?
[01:36] <leo_rockw> !s2disk
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s2disk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <arooni> how do i install newer nvidia drivers... when i shut down gdm... i still get the error that the nvidia module is loaded and installation can't continue;  what to do?
[01:36] <Peppery> Dead2Fall: Did someone hack your Ubuntu install or did someone hack you with Ubuntu?
[01:36] <nvictor> Ant1jr: in fact in tex you can do things like caf\'e
[01:36] <nvictor> I need to see the source of such a program
[01:36] <Ant1jr> hm
[01:36] <Ant1jr> ok
[01:36] <^Ocean^> !testing
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <Peppery> failure.
[01:37] <nvictor> see you guys
[01:37] <Peppery> g'day TheSkorm
[01:37] <Peppery> Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
[01:37] <TheSkorm> Peppery: yes
[01:37] <^Ocean^> !unstable
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unstable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <hellhoundp2k> Hey guys, OpenOffice.org 2.3.0 is out, and I have 2.2.0.. sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade don't see this, why not?
[01:37] <Peppery> TheSkorm: Okay, hold on while I transfer you to tech support
[01:37] <AndrewB> !gutsy > ^Ocean^ (see pm)
[01:38] <TheSkorm> Ever time she boots it says that the CPU i missing, in teh cmos
[01:38] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: cause it musn't be in the repo's yet.
[01:38] <Rabbitbunny> Can I change my terminal?
[01:38] <hellhoundp2k> AndrewB: Hope it's in there soon.
[01:38] <hellhoundp2k> Rabbitbunny: What would you like to change?
[01:38] <leo_rockw> hellhoundp2k, it is in gutsy already. wait until october
[01:39] <Peppery> TheSkorm: Try sudo apt-get install universe milky-way planets && planets create earth && planets create life earth
[01:39] <Rabbitbunny> I'm using irssi and hate the white background, I want black. I've been told this is not irssi's problem, But that it's terminal dependant.
[01:39] <Rizzla> anyone have an idea or could help with my thunderbird issue?
[01:39] <hellhoundp2k> leo_rockw: Exactly what day is gutsy being released?
[01:39] <AndrewB> hellhoundp2k: est 18th
[01:40] <hellhoundp2k> leo_rockw: Aw. :( Too long for me.
[01:40] <hellhoundp2k> oops, I mean AndrewB
[01:40] <hellhoundp2k> :P
[01:40] <Hilikus> what do i have to do in linux so that my windows box can refer to my ubuntu box by its hostname??
[01:40] <leo_rockw> hellhoundp2k, october 18th is the official date yeah
[01:40] <hellhoundp2k> So long! nooo
[01:41] <leo_rockw> hellhoundp2k, if you know what you're doing and you're not in a production pc you can try it now
[01:41] <leo_rockw> hellhoundp2k, but you have to know that things can go wrong
[01:41] <hellhoundp2k> leo_rockw: I know :P I think I'll just wait.
[01:41] <Rizzla> hwo can i tell if thunderbird is running in the background
[01:42] <hellhoundp2k> I've invested way too much time just getting this machine to work the way I want to start all over with an unstable release :P
[01:42] <AndrewB> Rizzla: ps aux | grep thunderbird
[01:42] <leo_rockw> hellhoundp2k, when i first installed gutsy OO.o wasnt working at all. it was buggy
[01:42] <Rizzla> every time i try and start it up, it says that there's already another instances of it open, but when i look at the processes i see nothing
[01:42] <Peppery> Rabbitbunny: Try Edit -> Profiles, Edit, Colors
[01:42] <Peppery> Rabbitbunny: That changes your entire terminal, but hopefully it's what you want
[01:42] <Rabbitbunny> Cool, I'll try
[01:43] <hellhoundp2k> Argh. OpenOffice.org Writer doesn't appear to be recognizing my font that I just installed.. Existence Light in .ttf.. installed to fonts://. Anyone had this problem before?
[01:43] <simplechat_> hey
[01:43] <leo_rockw> i installed uswsusp and s2disk works but resume doesn't. i get a regular boot and swap doesn't get loaded (it FAILS because it has all that hibernate data). what am i doing wrong?
[01:43] <Rizzla> AndrewB, this is what i get 17145  0.0  0.0   2884   760 pts/0    R+   19:46   0:00 grep thunderbird
[01:43] <rico_> Rizzla, then thunderbird isn't running.
[01:43] <AndrewB> Rizzla: doens't look like it then.
[01:43] <amro> Hi,I cannot gothrough tor "./configure" without Openssl ,even I use the results from"whereis openssl" is NOT work.
[01:43] <TheSkorm>  9:43AM  up 35 days, 19:53, 7 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05
[01:43] <AndrewB> amro: try sudo apt-get install openssl-dev  then try it
[01:44] <Rabbitbunny> W00t!
[01:44] <amro> AndrewB,en thx
[01:44] <Rabbitbunny> That's exactly what I wanted
[01:44] <TheSkorm> Hi, im trying to installl stuff with apt-get
[01:44] <Peppery> Rabbitbunny: Enjoy ;)
[01:44] <TheSkorm> im getting command not found
[01:44] <TheSkorm> FreeBSD fruit.theskorm.net 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun Aug 26 13:22:34 EST 2007     root@fruit.theskorm.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/FRUIT  i386
[01:44] <Peppery> amro: What was the output?
[01:44] <leo_rockw> how do i clean my swap so it doesn't FAIL when mounted?
[01:44] <Peppery> fail.theskorm.net
[01:44] <AndrewB> TheSkorm: use   sudo apt-get
[01:44] <Rizzla> how come when I try to run it i get this "mozilla thunderbird is already running, but is not responding.  To open a new window, you must first close the existing mozilla thunderbird process, or restart
[01:44] <rico_> erm, does FreeBSD even have apt-get?
[01:45] <AndrewB> Rizzla: log out your session or reboot, see if it fixes
[01:45] <coreymanshack> freebsd?
[01:45] <coreymanshack> this is ubuntu forums
[01:45] <AndrewB> TheSkorm: are you using freebsd?
[01:45] <coreymanshack> i mean irc
[01:45] <Rizzla> i'll give it a whirl again
[01:45] <TheSkorm> AndrewB: I dunno
[01:45] <leo_rockw> if you don't use sudo, apt-get doesn't give you command not found in ubuntu
[01:45] <rico_> hey guys. I did some silly things (installing/reinstalling some packages) and now Nautilus is broken. No desktop icons, folder browser windows won't open. Anyone got any clue to where I can start figuring this out?
[01:45] <TheSkorm> WINDOWS XP SERVER 2004
[01:45] <leo_rockw> it gives you apt-sudo --help
[01:46] <TheSkorm> It says it on the label
[01:46] <rico_> apt-get --help you mean
[01:46] <rico_> :b
[01:46] <Peppery> rico_: have you tried turning it off and back on again?
[01:46] <rico_> TheSkorm, .....
[01:46] <leo_rockw> that lol
[01:46] <AndrewB> TheSkorm: try #freebsd
[01:46] <rico_> Peppery, the computer?
[01:46] <Peppery> rico_: Yes.
[01:46] <rico_> mmm, no I haven't.
[01:46] <Rizzla> just logged out and logged back in, nothing..
[01:46] <Rizzla> still the same error
[01:46] <rico_> I did try a logoff/logout though.
[01:46] <Peppery> rico_: sudo shutdown -r now
[01:46] <rico_> Rizzla, killall -9 thunderbird-bin for good measure
[01:47] <TheSkorm> rico_: do you need the -9
[01:47] <TheSkorm> i mean, thats just so crual
[01:47] <Rizzla> no process killed
[01:47] <leo_rockw> how do i go about getting my swap to mount at boot if i'm getting FAIL?
[01:47] <Peppery> leo_rockw: have you tried turning it off and back on again?
[01:48] <leo_rockw> Peppery, the swap?
[01:48] <Peppery> leo_rockw: the computer
[01:48] <AndrewB> Peppery: please stop that.
[01:48] <etale> I'm having overheat problems in both ubuntu 7.04 and ubuntu 7.10, the forums are full of weird wacko advice... anyone having a similar problem and found a solution?
[01:48] <leo_rockw> Peppery, this is no windoze
[01:48] <hjmills> any ideas about keeping two evolution calendars on different computers in sync?
[01:48] <Peppery> AndrewB: Stop what?
[01:48] <hellhoundp2k> Does anyone else have newly installed font problems in openoffice.org?
[01:48] <TheSkorm> hellhoundp2k: nope
[01:48] <rico_> AndrewB, has he been giving that advice to everyone?
[01:48] <hellhoundp2k> I installed Existence Light.ttf and openoffice doesn't see it. :(
[01:48] <AndrewB> Peppery: suggestions to everybody to reboot. I assume from the IT Crowd.
[01:49] <Peppery> AndrewB: The IT Crowd is quite possibly the best show ever.
[01:49] <odzk> hey have anyone tried updating firefox?
[01:49] <AndrewB> Peppery: possibly yes, but please don't keep doing that. It becomes annoying and is not productive.
[01:49] <hellhoundp2k> Peppery: I think you're lost. Please try #windows :P
[01:49] <hjmills> Peppery, I didn't find it that funny and surely this should be in offtopic
[01:50] <hjmills> hellhoundp2k, i agree - rebooting is for m$ fanboyz
[01:50] <TheSkorm> hjmills: have you tried turning it off and back on agian
[01:50] <leo_rockw> so... how do i go about getting my swap to mount at boot if i'm getting FAIL?
[01:50] <kitche> leo_rockw: try turning swap on after your ocmputer is boot up swapon -a it should output more then FAIL if it fails
[01:50] <TheSkorm> What kitche said
[01:51] <hjmills> TheSkorm, I tried it about 3 years ago - I got bored waiting while it rebooted and didn't try it again
[01:51] <TheSkorm> if not make a init.d script
[01:51] <punzada> is there a command I can put into the command line to disable apache service after it's been running?
[01:51] <hjmills> leo_rockw, reformat the swap partition and try again?
[01:51] <leo_rockw> kitche, i know why it is FAILing. it has s2disk info there
[01:51] <Peppery> punzada: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop?
[01:51] <AndrewB> Peppery: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop   or /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[01:51] <TheSkorm> punzada: apachectl -k stop
[01:51] <hjmills> punsad, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 [stop|start|restart] 
[01:51] <punzada> ty :)
[01:51] <Peppery> AndrewB: Not me :)
[01:51] <leo_rockw> hjmills, yeah, i was going to try that if there wasn't a quicker command.
[01:52] <TheSkorm> does apachectl -k stop work on *buntu?
[01:52] <kelvin_>  /msg nickserv identify contrasea
[01:52] <hjmills> leo_rockw, shouldn't take too long
[01:52] <kitche> kelvin_: change your password :)
[01:52] <Peppery> TheSkorm: The program 'apachectl' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:52] <leo_rockw> hjmills, can that be done w/ the live cd? i don't remember
[01:52] <george_> !w32codecs
[01:52] <hjmills> kelvin, I just hope you dont use the same password for everything
[01:52] <AndrewB> kelvin_: please ident then change your password. /ns help set password
[01:52] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[01:52] <hjmills> leo_rockw, you can probably do it right now
[01:52] <hjmills> leo_rockw, ubuntu doesnt require a swap partition - its just rather helpful
[01:53] <Creationist225> How do I completely remove GRUB from my drive?
[01:53] <george_> thanks
[01:53] <leo_rockw> hjmills, how do i go about it then?
[01:53] <rico_> it doesn't?
[01:53] <kelvin>  /ns help set password
[01:53] <kitche> Creationist225: flush the MBR
[01:53] <rico_> wow i didn't know that. how does it manage a swap without a swap partition?
[01:53] <AndrewB> Creationist225: why would you want to? you wouldn't be able to boot ubuntu
[01:53] <TheSkorm> hjmills: what happens when you run out of real memory
[01:53] <TheSkorm> KABOOM
[01:53] <Poul|Raider> i got this problem that when i am in mosml mode the "up-key" to write the same as last time dont work, generaly the arrowkeys dont work? anyone know if its posible.
[01:53] <leo_rockw> you don't really need a swap
[01:53] <kelvin> #ubunntu-es
[01:53] <hjmills> leo_rockw, swapoff /dev/hda1 && mkswap /dev/hda1 && swapon /dev/hda1 (change /dev/hda1 for your swap partition)
[01:53] <scguy318> AndrewB: perhaps he doesn't want to boot Ubuntu
[01:53] <pavel> how do i restart xserver?
[01:53] <scguy318> pavel: Ctrl - Alt - Backspace
[01:53] <leo_rockw> hjmills, thank you
[01:53] <nick_> I am brand new to the linux world. i can't get my screen resolution any higher than 800 by 600. it doesn't even give me the option
[01:54] <hjmills> TheSkorm, whatever happens when you run out of memory and swap normally i guess...
[01:54] <geo-rge> what happens when you run out of real memory when you have swap and then you run out of swap?
[01:54] <scguy318> nick_: backup your xorg.conf, then pastebin it
[01:54] <Peppery> nick_: Try running the restricted drivers installer
[01:54] <Creationist225> AndrewB: I am installing Vista (don't worry, will reinstall Ubuntu immediately after ;)... but after installing Vista, I can't boot to it because GRUB issues an Error 22.
[01:54] <nick_> k
[01:54] <Peppery> Nick_: System -> administration -> restricted drivers manager
[01:54] <hellhoundp2k> Hey everyone, what would the exact command be to copy Existence-Light.otf from my Desktop into fonts:// in a terminal?
[01:54] <arooni> folks; my max resolutoin on my second monitor is 1280x1024; but with nvidia-settings; it shows my max resolution to be 640x480.... is there anyway of fixing this?  (ubuntu + feisty + nvidia graphics card 7950 gt otc)
[01:54] <kitche> Creationist225: grub should be overwritten by Vista install
[01:54] <Creationist225> kitche: Could you tell me how to do that?
[01:54] <Creationist225> kitche: That's what I would have assumed too.
[01:54] <hjmills> Creationist225, you are going to need to reinstall grub as vista will have overwritten the mbr - you need a live cd and instructions are on help.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <pavel> thankjs
[01:55] <AndrewB> !fstab > coreymanshack (see pm)
[01:55] <scguy318> arooni: perhaps you should do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, after you backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:55] <kitche> Creationist225: fdisk /mbr should do what you want
[01:55] <arooni> scguy318, really/
[01:55] <leo_rockw> hjmills, that was quick, haha. thank you. i wanted to clear the swap to keep experimenting with s2disk.
[01:55] <Creationist225> hjmills: I'm running a live CD right now.  Tried running "grub-install sda1" but it said that the device isn't recognized.
[01:55] <kitche> Creationist225: or use the Vista install cd go into recovery mode and issue fixmbr fixboot then restart
[01:55] <pavel> beryl wont work correctly on my desktop, idk what to do
[01:55] <scguy318> arooni: yeah
[01:55] <hjmills> leo_rockw, has that worked?
[01:55] <scguy318> arooni: what is your monitor? perhaps your refresh values in xorg.conf need to be adjusted
[01:55] <nick_> it says my nvidia driver is already being used. it was working earlier but i tried out that desktop effects and it went away. then i turned off the desktop effects and i can't change the resolution back to what it was
[01:55] <AndrewB> Creationist225: you need to use the path  /dev/sda1
[01:55] <Creationist225> kitche: The fixmbr was my first try from Windows recovery... it doesn't exist anymore lol
[01:55] <leo_rockw> hjmills, yup. i have swap back online
[01:55] <geo-rge> pavel: first find out why
[01:55] <Creationist225> AndrewB: Ah... will give that a try.
[01:56] <hjmills> Creationist225, hmm, you might need to do it from the grub shell itself rather than using the automated grub-install program maybe
[01:56] <arooni> scguy318, its a cheap one from frys.... not a brand name  ; it was wokring before i installed newer nvidia drivers (FROM .11 to .19)
[01:56] <hjmills> leo_rockw, glad to be of assistance
[01:56] <wabiD> can anyone help me fix gran paradiso - http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4123/granju7.png
[01:56] <leo_rockw> hjmills, you rock :-D
[01:56] <pavel> geo-rge says my root window size is too big
[01:56] <Creationist225> AndrewB: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[01:56] <scguy318> arooni: yeah, you probably just need to adjust your horiz/vert refresh values in xorg.conf
[01:56] <hjmills> leo_rockw, nah, i just spend too much time fiddling
[01:57] <Peppery> Anyone help? http://www.pastebin.ca/721112
[01:57] <mc2003> gooood morning guys...i have a vary strange problem...i had 2 sound cards i removed one and now only the current user me hasnt sound..:p if i switch user i have normal sound...any ideas?
[01:57] <leo_rockw> wabiD, isn't gran paradiso a FF thing?
[01:57] <wabiD> yes
[01:57] <TheSkorm> wabiD: hawt
[01:57] <wabiD> no annoying
[01:57] <leo_rockw> wabiD, then you're better off trying a FF channel i guess
[01:57] <AndrewB> Creationist225: have you still got a /boot partition?
[01:57] <wabiD> i did, its dead
[01:57] <Creationist225> AndrewB: I shouldn't.  WHen installing Vista, I deleted all my partitions.
[01:57] <Peppery> !wpa
[01:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <gregorovius> isn't gran paradiso is the codename for firefox 3?
[01:58] <Hug0_Henr1que> alguem portugues?
[01:58] <etale> is there a way to control the default size of a metacity window?
[01:58] <scguy318> Creatonist225: doesn't the Vista DVD have a way to reinstall its MBR?
[01:58] <leo_rockw> yeah gran paradiso is ff3
[01:58] <scguy318> !pt | Hug0_Henr1que
[01:58] <ubotu> Hug0_Henr1que: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:58] <leo_rockw> or ff3 renderer or smth like that
[01:59] <Peppery> I think I have a problem with dbus. Any ideas? paste: http://www.pastebin.ca/721112
[01:59] <scguy318> mc2003: check your Sound settings?
[01:59] <Creationist225> scguy318: I would have thought so... I ran the Vista "Startup Recovery" wizard but all it said was it couldn't fix the problem... "Send a report to Microsoft to help find a solution..."  blah blah blah
[01:59] <scguy318> mc2003: might be something there
[01:59] <tinfoil> net
[01:59] <Jordan_U> Creationist225, In previous versions of windows you could enter a recovery console and run fixmbr
[02:00] <Creationist225> Jordan_U: That was the first thing I tried... in the recovery console, there is no fixmbr anymore.
[02:00] <scguy318> Jordan_U: the Vista DVD has a different song and dance to it
[02:00] <leo_rockw> anybody with experience resuming from s2disk?
[02:00] <Creationist225> Jordan_U: And no way to list available commands either.
[02:00] <scguy318> Jordan_U: i think theres a command u can invoke from the DVD to repair MBR
[02:00] <mc2003> i dont see any sound cards in sound settings(lol) in device manager i see my card
[02:00] <Peppery> !dbus
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <scguy318> Creationist225: bootrec /fixmbr?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Creationist225, "help" ?
[02:01] <wabiD> but gran paradiso is useless with pictures this big
[02:01] <decay> Question: This distro is based on Ubuntu. is there anyway i can get the gnome toolbar / start menu to look like this: http://linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/celena/mintmenu.png
[02:01] <Creationist225> scguy318: Didn't know about bootrec... will try that.
[02:01] <Creationist225> Jordan_U: And nope.. "help" is an unknown command now too.
[02:02] <Creationist225> I'll try that bootrec.. and be back soon whether it works or not :)
[02:02] <ostlund> i have an strange problem. i have resize my /home partition and it seem to have worked without any problems, no lose of data. but the problem is that i have the same space left  as before but according to gparted it has grown, fdisk says the same while df -m shows the way it was before
[02:02] <Creationist225> Thanks, guys.
[02:03] <scguy318> Creationist225: np
[02:04] <kersinc> #ubunntu-es
[02:05] <scguy318> kersinc: are you trying to join #ubuntu-es? you should type /j #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <mr_butter> wow didn't realize so many people use ubuntu
[02:06] <mr_butter> best distro i've used
[02:07] <scguy318> mr_butter: welcome to the community :)
[02:07] <bruenig> !ot | mr_butter
[02:07] <ubotu> mr_butter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <orangefly> how do i connect mythtv to a network windows share
[02:07] <Peppery> http://www.pastebin.ca/721112
[02:07] <mr_butter> ty
[02:08] <dstadulis> orangefly: research samba
[02:08] <bruenig> Peppery, in quite a few distros, dbus is started from the hal daemon, so yeah that is pretty understandable
[02:08] <pavel> when i run beryl through a terminal, it says that my root window size is too big, but then it says that my size has to be 512 by some other generally small number, how do i fix this?
[02:09] <Peppery> bruenig: Aha, any ideas?
[02:09] <Khyron> is there anyway to make VNC output sound on the client side?
[02:09] <bruenig> Peppery, screw around with the hal daemon
[02:09] <Peppery> bruenig: Where do I start? XD
[02:09] <kitche> pavel: it's the texture most likely it's complaining about
[02:09] <scguy318> Khyron: no
[02:09] <leo_rockw> anybody here uses uswsusp/s2disk?
[02:09] <bruenig> Peppery, /etc/init.d
[02:09] <scguy318> Khyron: i do know that the Remote Desktop Protocol has such a notion
[02:09] <pavel> kitche: yea it said something about that, what do i do?
[02:09] <scguy318> Khyron: but not sure how well it would work on Linux - Linux
[02:09] <hjmills> night all
[02:10] <__mad> theres any "run application" shortcut on ubuntu?
[02:10] <scguy318> __mad: Alt + F2
[02:10] <Khyron> ah well
[02:10] <__mad> thx a lot!
[02:10] <Peppery> __mad: alt+f2
[02:10] <orangefly> dstadulis, i have samba installed....i am watching something from a wndows pc....i just don't know how to acces the files in mythtv....
[02:10] <rico_> hey, anyone got a clue to how I can change icons in Gnome? (I want to use my own icons, not some icon theme..)
[02:11] <kitche> pavel: there is a fix around you can probably find it if you look for it I believe ubuntuforums have a solution for it
[02:11] <pavel> kitche k thanks
[02:11] <scguy318> orangefly: mount with smbfs?
[02:11] <kitche> pavel: I never ran into that problem so I haven't really looked
[02:11] <kst-> i downloaded some tex sources dvd .iso and want to mount it without burning.. how do i do that? mount -t iso9660 <pathtoisofile> /media/cdrom0 gives me: mount: /home/kst/Downloads/texlive2007-live-20070212.iso is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[02:11] <Sole> hello
[02:12] <Ant1jr> lol Im loving ubuntu studio
[02:12] <Ant1jr> so much better than vanilla
[02:12] <kitche> kst-: mount -o loop <path to iso> <place to mount>
[02:13] <bruenig> !ot | Ant1jr
[02:13] <ubotu> Ant1jr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:13] <Ant1jr> im aware
[02:13] <Ant1jr> ^-^
[02:13] <chibitk> hey guys im getting a MD5Sum mismatch
[02:13] <chibitk> how do i fix it
[02:13] <chibitk> ?
[02:13] <Sole> is the 7.10 beta stable enough for a new user to use? or should I let 7.04 take my ubuntu virginity?
[02:13] <scguy318> chibitk: if you mean the Ubuntu ISO, download it again
[02:14] <scguy318> Sole: the former question, no
[02:14] <scguy318> Sole: the latter, yes
[02:14] <Sole> scguy318: thanks
[02:14] <chibitk> theres noway to just get the deb pack and do it manually without the dvd?
[02:15] <scguy318> chibitk: where are you getting this MD5 error?
[02:15] <chibitk> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070418)] /pool/main/libo/libopenobex/libopenobex1_1.3-3_i386.deb
[02:15] <chibitk>   MD5Sum mismatch
[02:16] <zzz_> chibitk: You can remove the line for the DVD from /etc/apt/sources.list and have that file downloaded from the internet.
[02:17] <usser> how does ubuntu determine at which resolution bootspash screen has to be run at, where can i change it
[02:17] <usser> i get a blank screen instead of bootsplash
[02:17] <scguy318> usser: i think its somewhere in menu.lst, though I forgot what the specific tweak is
[02:17] <kitche> usser: /boot/grub/menu.lst the vga= option
[02:17] <rico_> usser, you mean the  ubuntu logo with the progress bar?
[02:17] <rico_> usser, or the grub menu?
[02:17] <usser> rico_: yea the one with the log
[02:17] <usser> o
[02:17] <rico_> for the grub menu, what kitche said.
[02:18] <usser> rico_: nice thanks
[02:18] <rico_> for the splash screen, that's usplash, I'd install startup-manager to tweak up
[02:18] <rico_> tweak up=tweak it
[02:19] <tv_> I have two users on my pc.  How do I eliminate internet access completely (including lan if it's easier) for one of the users?
[02:19] <chibitk> ok do i need to replace the dvd deb line with a url?
[02:19] <scguy318> tv_: mmmmm, not sure, filtering software?
[02:19] <mlyon> I've got a Pro/wireless 3954abg card, I can get connect in windows, and USED to be able to in Edgy, but not anymore!!
[02:19] <scguy318> tv_: or probably some capability business on his username/group
[02:20] <scguy318> mlyon: can you pastebin dmesg | tail command?
[02:20] <tv_> scguy318: I would think it would have to do with eliminating membership in a group or something.
[02:20] <scguy318> mlyon: and what did you do recently?
[02:20] <wabiD> does this give a hint for my gran paradiso problem - http://pastebin.com/m7db154c
[02:20] <scguy318> tv_: yeah, prob
[02:20] <zzz_> chibitk: You can simply remove the line or make it a comment by prepending a # to the line.
[02:20] <tv_> scguy318: question is .. which group?
[02:21] <chibitk> ?????
[02:21] <zzz_> chibitk: What is the problem?
[02:21] <scguy318> tv_: im looking
[02:21] <mlyon> scguy318: Let my dad on the laptop.., Im on another box right now
[02:21] <TheSkorm> zzz_: your mums the problem
[02:21] <scguy318> mlyon: mm ok, what have you done recently
[02:21] <chibitk> ok so i gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to remove the dvd deb line... do i need to add a line to get those packs from the net?
[02:21] <zzz_> TheSkorm: I just answered chibitk's question... Maybe you are the one with the problem.
[02:21] <tv_> scguy318: thanks.
[02:22] <cosmodad> tv_: I don't think you can do it via access rights
[02:22] <tv_> cosmodad: not something like netdev?
[02:22] <zzz_> chibitk: As long as you have appropriate lines for main, restricted and universe, you do not need to add another line.
[02:22] <Peppery> zzz_: Or maybe your mums the problem
[02:22] <cosmodad> tv_: don't know that one...
[02:23] <mlyon> well in dmesg theres no IPv6 routers persent
[02:23] <scguy318> chibitk: no, should be already in there
[02:23] <zhen> hi
[02:23] <scguy318> mlyon: that's it? nothing pertaining to the wireless card?
[02:23] <chibitk> k thanx
[02:23] <TheSkorm> scguy318: your mum should already be in there
[02:23] <cosmodad> tv_: however, what just pops to my mind is there's a tool (whose name I've forgot atm) which allows you set certain user's system limits, like virtual space
[02:23] <zzz_> It looks like there are juvenile people in this channel.
[02:23] <cosmodad> tv_: it might help in this case too
[02:23] <__mikem> !manners | Peppery
[02:23] <ubotu> Peppery: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:23] <scguy318> TheSkorm: what are you talking about?
[02:23] <mlyon> scguy318: sorry that was after the wireless card
[02:23] <TheSkorm> scguy318: Whats your mum talking about?
[02:23] <mlyon> scguy318: eth1
[02:24] <scguy318> mlyon: when you get the chance, pastebin dmesg | tail
[02:24] <cosmodad> tv_: do you intend to deny Internet connectivity completely or just to a specific number of users?
[02:24] <zzz_> Thanks __mikem...
[02:24] <mlyon> scguy318: ok..
[02:24] <scguy318> cosmodad: i think he wants to deny access to a specific user
[02:24] <mlyon> thanks
[02:24] <tv_> cosmodad: thanks.. I know there's an easy solution.. deny completely to one user
[02:24] <scguy318> mlyon: and what have you done recently?
[02:24] <Peppery> !manners | TheSkorm
[02:24] <ubotu> TheSkorm: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:25] <TheSkorm> mlyon, can you please sudo apt-get install figlet ; dmesg| figlet -f big
[02:25] <TheSkorm> and pastebi the resutls
[02:25] <scguy318> TheSkorm: hes not on his laptop right now
[02:25] <Peppery> rofl TheSkorm
[02:25] <scguy318> TheSkorm: his dad is on it
[02:25] <TheSkorm> oh
[02:25] <AndrewB> TheSkorm: see pm
[02:26] <AndrewB> mlyon: please don't issue that command.
[02:26] <Peppery> AndrewB: Please do not issue stupid commands like that.
[02:26] <bgh> hey, guys. anyone know how to reset the prefs of the screensaver?
[02:26] <trogdor> "25720 user  18  0 4256 532 276 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 ssh-agent" what is/how remove?
[02:26] <TheSkorm> AndrewB: what?
[02:27] <coreymanshack> they hatin on you andrewb? i think we're gonna have to bring out the big guns
[02:27] <TheSkorm> AndrewB: did you run the command?
[02:27] <scguy318> TheSkorm: how would that solve his wireless issue?
[02:27] <Peppery> coreymanshack: Don't hate the playa! Hate tha game!
[02:27] <AndrewB> TheSkorm: don't take me for a silly user.
[02:27] <zzz_> chibitk: Did that solve your problem? Are you able to download the package from the internet?
[02:27] <TheSkorm> scguy318: I blind, I need the big font?
[02:27] <Peppery> AndrewB: oops.
[02:28] <scguy318> TheSkorm: then set your browser to use larger fonts
[02:28] <bgh> i went to change the screensaver and it reset the environment on me (made me log in again), and now i cant get back into the screensaver to set it back to default without it resetting the whole thing.
[02:28] <TheSkorm> scguy318: cant
[02:28] <TheSkorm> ca't find the size up button since the fonts are small
[02:28] <TheSkorm> xD
[02:29] <bgh> i'm guessing i changed it to something incompatible with my graphics card or something.
[02:29] <bgh> anyone have any idea what i'm talking about? :)
[02:29] <cosmodad> netsplit?
[02:30] <caravel> help! hi again. (Feisty) smbclient works, but nautilus does not show up any network share -- what could be wrong ?
[02:30] <Peppery> cosmodad: neg.
[02:30] <bgh> hm. sigh. ah well.
[02:30] <scguy318> cosmodad: no, else the quit msgs would show the two IRC endpoints
[02:30] <coreymanshack> whats the command for unmount?
[02:30] <trogdor> Pelo: what?
[02:30] <bruenig>  coreymanshack umount
[02:30] <cosmodad> scguy318: darn, I figured tv_'s prob
[02:30] <bruenig> !ohmy | Pelo
[02:30] <coreymanshack> thx bruenig
[02:30] <ubotu> Pelo: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:30] <Pelo> trogdor, I need someone to teach me how to use a proxy for one site
[02:31] <davubuntu> Hey all... I was wondering if anyone knows why azureus crashes as soon as it opens on feisty? I have found crash reports for edgy and some other pages in google mention crashes but they don't indicate what type of crash.
[02:31] <scguy318> Pelo: what kind of proxy?
[02:31] <FFighter> hello
[02:31] <danya>  hello .. I'm having a problem ..my laptop keeps freezing and the only way to shutdown is by the power button .. this thing started happening after I insatlled compiz ... I tried alt-prt sc - r .. but nothing really works
[02:31] <kitche> Pelo: go to Preferences Advanced Networkig and it's in there
[02:31] <urthmover> umm what is the easy way to instll the wifi drivers  if I used the alternative installation CD?
[02:31] <FFighter> where could I find tips on optimizing ubuntu/linux's overall performance?
[02:31] <__mad> thanks for all your help today guys
[02:31] <Pelo> scguy318,  one well known site is blocking  canadian ip now,  so I want to bypass that
[02:31] <scguy318> Pelo: Demonoid?
[02:31] <scguy318> Pelo: :P
[02:31] <hinogi> use a proxy
[02:31] <Pelo> scguy318, yes that would be the one
[02:31] <gerro> Pelo: I can show you how to setup tor and firefox if you'd be okay with that
[02:31] <scguy318> Pelo: google free web proxy
[02:31] <Pelo> hinogi,  read up
[02:31] <urthmover> FFighter....you might like using Swiftfox  rather than Firefox
[02:32] <scguy318> Pelo: not sure if the tracker does that too tho
[02:32] <bruenig> urthmover, swiftfox is well known as a sad joke
[02:32] <Pelo> gerro,  can you join me in #pelo ?
[02:32] <urthmover> is that right?
[02:32] <gerro> Pelo: kay
[02:32] <scguy318> Pelo: you could try routing tracker requests through Tor
[02:32] <Pelo> gerro,  tracker doens't
[02:32] <FFighter> urthmover, you just hit the spot - firefox indeed takes lots of my cpu cycles
[02:32] <urthmover> I didn't know....I reimaged  and have liked firefox   just fine
[02:32] <bruenig> it's the sort of thing that hooks in the new onslaught of dumb linux users
[02:32] <urthmover> ah
[02:32] <pbx> Are there any KHTML-based browsers that don't depend on KDE?
[02:32] <bruenig> oh this is swiftfox, that must be someting
[02:32] <overlord> I have creative 4.1 speakers and SoundMAX sound card. My speakers are working like 2.1 speakers. How do i fix it?
[02:33] <bgh> dumb linux user here, how do i reset the prefs on the ubuntu screensaver?
[02:33] <davubuntu> When I was using Edgy I used Automatix to install Azureus and it worked but I didn't want to do that this time because I have heard you won't support it. So I installed form the repos and it crashes as soon as it has finished loading and the window opens
[02:33] <Pici> bgh: There are no preferences for the Gnome screensavers :(
[02:33] <scguy318> davubuntu: can you pastebin the error?
[02:34] <scguy318> davubuntu: i've seen a suggestion to purge ~/.azureus
[02:34] <jxxxt> bgh, you can do that in guisystem prefs screensaver
[02:34] <davubuntu> I don't get an error in a pop up or anything. It just crashes. How can I see what the error is?
[02:34] <bgh> jxxxt i cant get into prefs screensaver anymore, it resets my system when i try
[02:34] <scguy318> davubuntu: go to Terminal, and type azureus
[02:34] <Hilikus> how do i make windows recognize my linux box as a host in the network so that if i do for example ping ubuntu, "ubuntu" will resolve to the ip of my server?
[02:34] <bgh> so i cant get into the panel to change anything back
[02:35] <jxxxt> bgh, Gah! why is that??
[02:35] <davubuntu> scguy318: what's the pastebin link again... I can't remember it.
[02:35] <LjL> davubuntu: type /topic
[02:35] <scguy318> !pastebin | davubuntu
[02:35] <ubotu> davubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:35] <Pici> Hilikus: That would be something to ask in the ##windows channel
[02:35] <vanessa> i am having problems compiling driver spca5xx
[02:35] <overlord> I have creative 4.1 speakers and SoundMAX sound card. My speakers are working like 2.1 speakers. How do i fix it?
[02:35] <bgh> jxxxt: no idea, it's irritatin' me. i was looking to see what other screensavers it has, and i clicked on the first one in the list.. 4D something was all I saw before the system reset and I had to log in again
[02:35] <scguy318> vanessa: you shouldn't have to, I think, unless you're not on Feisty
[02:35] <taime1> can someone please help me get sound on my laptop?
[02:36] <cosmodad> Hilikus: you need to edit %SYSTEM%\hosts or similar
[02:36] <bgh> no error message, it just shuts down everything and makes me log in
[02:36] <Hilikus> pici ok so how do i make my ubuntu recognize my pc so that if i do ping windows windows will resolve to the right ip
[02:36] <cosmodad> Hilikus: edit /etc/hosts
[02:36] <Pici> Hilikus: Stick the name and IP into the /etc/hosts file
[02:36] <vanessa> what is fiesty?
[02:36] <Hilikus> great, thanks
[02:36] <bgh> hilikus your hosts file will have that
[02:36] <jxxxt> bgh, and now it crashes every time you try to change back??
[02:36] <Pici> Hilikus: man hosts for the syntax
[02:36] <bgh> jxxxt: ayup.
[02:36] <cosmodad> Hilikus: or use a DNS service if many machines are involved
[02:36] <scguy318> vanessa: Ubuntu Feisty is the latest stable version of Ubuntu, aka Ubuntu 7.04
[02:36] <Hilikus> but then i need static ips right?
[02:36] <lonran> hi everybody
[02:36] <vanessa> 7.04?
[02:37] <scguy318> cosmodad: DHCP?
[02:37] <vanessa> this is 7.10
[02:37] <lonran> how can i convert a pdf into an image to edit it with gimp?
[02:37] <scguy318> !gutsy | vanessa
[02:37] <ubotu> vanessa: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:37] <cosmodad> Hilikus: right. A DNS/DHCP service will provide dynamics
[02:37] <overlord> vanessa: All the ubuntu versions are named. Similarly, ubuntu 7.04 is called Feisty fawn.
[02:37] <bgh> jxxxt: i'm running an updater now, hope that will fix the problem
[02:37] <Hilikus> cool, thanks
[02:37] <scguy318> vanessa: but, I don't think you should have to build spca5xxx from source
[02:37] <jrib> lonran: just open the pdf from gimp
[02:37] <bgh> just weird, esp when it claims to be stable (just installed feisty fawn this morning)
[02:37] <vanessa> this is also xubuntu
[02:37] <cosmodad> scguy318: you wouldn't need that for addressing, but it often comes natural to use both.
[02:37] <overlord> I have creative 4.1 speakers and SoundMAX sound card. My speakers are working like 2.1 speakers. How do i fix it?
[02:37] <vanessa> and i am not downloading another CD
[02:37] <jxxxt> bgh, OK let me know what happens
[02:37] <scguy318> cosmodad: true
[02:38] <bgh> pain in the butt but yah will do
[02:38] <scguy318> vanessa: well, Gutsy is beta...but you shouldn't have to build spca5xxx anyway
[02:38] <vanessa> regular ubuntu has problems installing on my computer
[02:38] <jrib> vanessa: 7.10 is beta, support is in #ubuntu+1
[02:38] <lonran> jrib, thnks
[02:38] <taime1> can someone please help me get sound on my laptop?
[02:38] <jrib> !sound > taime1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:38] <taime1> no
[02:39] <jrib> no?
[02:39] <taime1> that is useless
[02:39] <jxxxt> bgh, are you using -f option on update?
[02:39] <lonran> jrib, should just have tried :)
[02:39] <taime1> i have been at this since 930am
[02:39] <Dr_willis> taime1,  ive seen some newer laptops that have soundchips that are Unsupported by linux at this time.
[02:39] <bgh> jxxxt: no idea, i clicked on the updater from the GUI
[02:39] <yonkeltron> is there any plan to integrate jruby at all?
[02:39] <scguy318> taime1: i've seen suggestions to build latest ALSA, if you're up to the task
[02:39] <jrib> taime1: have you read through it and done what it says?  You need to provide specific details of the problem if you do not want a generic answer
[02:40] <bgh> jxxxt: i'm pretty much an idiot, i haven't used a shell environment for 10+ years :) so operating mainly on the GUI level
[02:40] <didem> scguy318: this is mlyon, now on laptop, connected on a wired connection here is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39210/
[02:40] <davubuntu> scguy318: thanks... it's taking a long time to load the pastebin... Plus I had to enable JScript and reload it
[02:40] <problemswithubun> LjL was helping me with this earlier, but I had to go... I have no audio after I installed ubuntu updates. I tried reinstalling alsamixer, but that didn't seem to work. any ideas?
[02:40] <scguy318> davubuntu: weird, it must be busy or something :(
[02:40] <jxxxt> bgh, If you were in the terminal you would write sudo apt-get update I am very new with linux also
[02:40] <scguy318> didem: ok lemme look
[02:41] <bgh> ah gotcha.
[02:41] <davubuntu> scguy318: or it
[02:41] <taime1> here's what i know: lspci sees the card, the modules are loaded but alsa doesnt see it. i have tried building alsa and loading modules. i figured out that the card doesnt have an irq assigned but i cant change anything in my sh*tty bios because its not even PnP.. out of at LEAST ten distros, only freespire (puke) would load my sound card and use it.... what can i do?
[02:41] <davubuntu> scguy318: or it's my connection... I'm in nicargua
[02:41] <scguy318> didem: mm, nothing informative, what was your chipset?
[02:41] <scguy318> davubuntu: ah
[02:41] <problemswithubun> LjL wanted me to put something into my pastebin... but i didn't know what that is
[02:41] <nonewmsgs> i put in my usb flash drive and i can see it under kinfo so the system knows it's there, but i can't find it in /media or find anyway to mount it.
[02:41] <scguy318> !pastebin | problemswithubun
[02:41] <ubotu> problemswithubun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:42] <FFighter> Could someone recommend me some software that could manage my PIM needs?
[02:42] <scguy318> FFighter: PIM?
[02:42] <didem> scguy318: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[02:42] <FFighter> Personal Information Management
[02:42] <taime1> that is useless
[02:42] <scguy318> FFighter: mm
[02:42] <taime1> oops
[02:42] <taime1> jrib: was that enough info... sorry im new
[02:43] <scguy318> FFighter: like the whole address book contact stuff? on GNOME you have Evolution's stuff, perhaps Mozilla Thunderbird's features? im not too astute in that field
[02:43] <FFighter> scguy318, hmm, maybe... evolution might workl
[02:43] <davubuntu> scguy318: I think the DNS has gone down. I'm not getting google
[02:43] <FFighter> scguy318, thanks
[02:44] <overlord> I have creative 4.1 speakers and SoundMAX sound card. My speakers are working like 2.1 speakers. How do i fix it?
[02:44] <alecw1> Is it possible to get rid of the "login" sound when you are prompted to login? I'm using the default GNOME login prompt, and it makes a quick little drumbeat when the window appears. Can someone help me eliminate it?
[02:44] <davubuntu> scguy318: can I PM you with it?
[02:44] <adayah> hello.  Im trying to use a wireless G usb device with a realtek 8187b designation.  Im using feisty on a powerpc mac.   there are only windows drivers for this airlink101 device and since its a powerpc ndiswrapper is not an option.
[02:44] <scguy318> davubuntu: sure
[02:44] <scguy318> davubuntu: make sure ur authed with NS if u arent already
[02:44] <jrib> taime1: sure, that's better.  But I don't know what to suggest.  There's a script at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems (Automatic Sound Information Collection section) that pastebins most of the info the sound experts want
[02:44] <problemswithubun> ok... i typed "amixer" into my console and threw the result into pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39211/
[02:44] <scguy318> didem: okay try doing
[02:44] <davubuntu> scguy318:what does that mean?
[02:44] <adayah> anyone able to help with this rtl8187b issue?
[02:44] <scguy318> davubuntu: you have to be registered and authorized with NickServ in order to send/receive PMs
[02:45] <scguy318> davubuntu: to register, type /msg NickServ register password
[02:45] <scguy318> davubuntu: then next time you connect to IRC, you would type /msg NickServ identify password
[02:45] <scguy318> didem: sudo modprobe -r ipw3945
[02:45] <scguy318> didem: then sudo modprobe ipw3945, then pastebin again dmesg | tail
[02:45] <didem> scguy318:  ok
[02:46] <casiox> hy! i don't get audio from a logitech-quickcam web-camera - can someone help please?
[02:47] <__mikem> why doesn't spell check work in open office?
[02:47] <XiXaQ> has anyone been able to play online poker in Ubuntu? I can only find windows software.
[02:47] <scguy318> XiXaQ: i dont do poker, but have you tested running those apps on Wine?
[02:47] <scguy318> davubuntu: welcome back
[02:47] <XiXaQ> scguy318, yes.
[02:47] <jxxxt> spell check does work in open office
[02:48] <wastrel> h/away
[02:48] <wastrel> hi
[02:48] <wastrel> hrm
[02:48] <XiXaQ> scguy318, they depend heavily on IE, it seems. I've installed ies4linux, but that doesn't seem to help any at all.
[02:48] <kitche> XiXaQ: I use wine for the poker client I use works fine
[02:48] <scguy318> XiXaQ: thats because ies4linux goes into its own wine folder
[02:48] <davubuntu> scguy318: what was it I had to type again when I came back? /msg...
[02:48] <__mikem> jxxxt, no, here it is not picking up any of my misspellings
[02:48] <scguy318> XiXaQ: you could try viewing AppDb entry on Internet Explorer at winehq.org
[02:48] <XiXaQ> kitche, what client is that?
[02:48] <scguy318> davubuntu: /msg NickServ identify password
[02:49] <kitche> XiXaQ: PokerStars
[02:49] <XiXaQ> kitche, are those compatible?
[02:49] <kitche> XiXaQ: compatible for what?
[02:49] <jxxxt> _mikem, Did you go through the spell options within the application
[02:49] <__mikem> jxxxt, how do you do that?
[02:50] <XiXaQ> kitche, I mean.. Can I use the pokerstars client with party poker for instance?
[02:50] <didem> scguy318:  NIIICCEE wireless now connected!! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39212/  can you tell me what that all was?? THANX!!!
[02:50] <kitche> XiXaQ: no
[02:50] <scguy318> didem: looks like for some reason your kernel module didn't load
[02:50] <XiXaQ> oh, ok.
[02:50] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone... can someone help me install google earth on feisty fawn?
[02:50] <jxxxt> _mikem, Hmnn I need to go look I will be a couple of moments
[02:50] <problemswithubun> hi... i installed ubuntu and audio worked fine, but then i used automatix and it stopped working. then i came here and they told me automatix sucked and to reinstall everything. so, i did, but then after audio worked with the livecd and first bootup, it stopped working after installing the standard ubuntu updates... any ideas? thanks!
[02:50] <didem> scguy318:  is that an issue that may repeat on reboot??
[02:51] <scguy318> didem: hopefully not, but if thats the case, you probably just wanna stick a line into /etc/modprobe
[02:51] <scguy318> didem: with the word ipw3945
[02:51] <davubuntu> scguy318: okay thanks for that and my connection is back. Here is the pastebin link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39213/
[02:51] <TheSkorm> problemswithubun: we dont support automatix
[02:51] <TheSkorm> its dangerous, and breaks things
[02:52] <overlord> I have creative 4.1 speakers and SoundMAX sound card. My speakers are working like 2.1 speakers. How do i fix it?
[02:52] <astro76> he reinstalled and ditched it
[02:52] <problemswithubun> i know... but that's why i did a clean install of ubuntu
[02:52] <scguy318> davubuntu: looks familiar, have you tried purging ~/.azureus?
[02:52] <scguy318> davubuntu: you could also try reinstalling sun-java6-jre
[02:52] <astro76> !audio | problemswithubun
[02:52] <ubotu> problemswithubun: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:52] <astro76> problemswithubun, have you been through those pages?
[02:52] <brad016> Hello anyone, for some reason this questions just popped into my head and I wondered, how big is the Linux kernel. Like in MB or KB
[02:52] <problemswithubun> astro76: yes... tried that about 12 hours ago... but didn't help... still no sound
[02:53] <scguy318> brad016: mine is 1747342 bytes
[02:53] <astro76> brad016, look in /boot and see, of course that's the compiled kernel, the source code uncompressed is much larger
[02:53] <MU9214> how do you wget files numerically. like from http://blahtest.org/folder/page1.htm to http://blahtest.org/folder/page8.htm  everything all the pages in between?
[02:53] <davubuntu> scguy318: okay I don't know how to "purge" that directory. to reinstall sun-java6-jre would I just do that with apt-get?
[02:53] <scguy318> brad016: so like 1.7 MB
[02:53] <kitche> brad016: depends how you compile it
[02:53] <brad016> okay thanks'
[02:53] <scguy318> davubuntu: yeah, and I just mean delete
[02:53] <scguy318> davubuntu: its a suggestion I've heard
[02:53] <davubuntu> scguy318: okay I'll give it a shot
[02:53] <scguy318> brad016: embedded applications would probably be a lot smaller ;)
[02:53] <MU9214> ?
[02:53] <brad016> I just used the one in ubuntub
[02:53] <scguy318> brad016: *embedded kernels
[02:54] <casiox> hy! i don't get audio from a logitech-quickcam web-camera - any ideas?
[02:54] <jrib> MU9214: I let the shell do the work.  Try 'echo {1..8}'.  See what I mean?
[02:54] <scguy318> casiox: does it show up in the mixer?
[02:54] <shk> does anyone know how to make the ALT-TAB icons higher quality (compiz) ?
[02:54] <jxxxt> _mikem, open office writer tools/options/language setting plus check the other tols options to see if they suit you
[02:54] <Xero> I don't think you're supposed to get audio from a camera.
[02:54] <scguy318> casiox: perhaps that functionality is not supported
[02:54] <jxxxt> tools
[02:54] <scguy318> Xero: i imagine some camera have a built-in mic
[02:54] <scguy318> *cameras
[02:55] <Xero> None I've seen do, and I have a quickcam.
[02:55] <jxxxt> bgh, How are you getting along??
[02:55] <MU9214> jrib: so wget http://blahtest.org/folder/page{1..8}.htm
[02:55] <problemswithubun> is it possible that something is still screwed up from when i had automatix even though i clean installed ubuntu?
[02:55] <brad016> astro76, which file is the kernel, all the files in mine were about 38 MB
[02:55] <jrib> MU9214: yes, that should work
[02:55] <MU9214> thanks.
 it is shown up in mixer & works on xp ...
[02:55] <scguy318> brad016: vmlinuz...
[02:56] <astro76> brad016, vmlinuz
[02:56] <brad016> okay
[02:56] <scguy318> casiox: the USB Audio device? perhaps you need to tweak the mixer controls?
[02:56] <__mikem> jxxxt didn't help
[02:56] <davubuntu> scguy318: so should the command be "rm ~/.azureus/*" or do I need "-r" in there to get rid of sub directories?
[02:56] <brad016> astro76, okay ya, 1.7 MB
[02:56] <scguy318> davubuntu: rm -r ~/.azureus
[02:56] <astro76> davubuntu, yeah, rm -r ~/.azureus/
[02:56] <ticnailer69> I've connected my computer to my flatscreen but for some reason the text is so small... How can I fix this?
[02:57] <brad016> astro76, why would the source code be much larger?
[02:57] <jxxxt> _mikem, I do not know what else to suggest but it does work well for me.
[02:57] <brad016> astro76, why would the source code be much larger?
[02:57] <seuaniu> ok, so the drive on my laptop just crapped out on me, and i need to reinstall...
[02:57] <seuaniu> is there an iso for gutsy yet?
[02:57] <brad016> seuaniu, ya beta was released a few day sago
[02:57] <kitche> seuaniu: yes there has been an iso for at least two months alpha and now beta
[02:57] <seuaniu> is it on launchpad?
 i tried this with alsamixer and gnome-mixer up and down, but no audio-output when i try to connect to a flash-media-server for video-chat ...
[02:58] <kitche> seuaniu: no it's on the download site for ubuntu
[02:58] <davubuntu> scguy318: I did that and it gave me the same error
[02:58] <scguy318> brad016: because the source code is a human-readable form that is much larger than what a compiler would output
[02:58] <problemswithubun> theskorm: i'm not looking for automatix support... i clean installed ubuntu, but i still had the same problem after i installed the updates suggested by update manager. audio worked with the livecd and before i installed the updates though
[02:58] <scguy318> davubuntu: hmm, you could try reinstalling azureus/sun-java6-jre, or a silly shot, but perhaps the gcj?
[02:58] <brad016> scguy318, okay like, i get it
[02:59] <astro76> problemswithubun, probably just means it wasn't caused by automatix... but good you got rid of it anyway ;)
[02:59] <problemswithubun> indeed... but what should i do know? does it look like there's anything wrong with alsamixer? you can see it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39211/
[02:59] <seuaniu> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download only showing feisty and dapper :(
[02:59] <davubuntu> scguy318: so is it "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
[02:59] <seuaniu> unless i'm missing a large elephant on that page
[03:00] <osvaldo> sorry anybody knows how shall I get in a portuguese chanell
[03:00] <scguy318> davubuntu: aptitude reinstall sun-java6-jre tbh
[03:00] <astro76> !br | osvaldo
[03:00] <yonkeltron> might anyone know about the relationship between ubuntu and Jruby? i've had some trouble finding anything out from the wiki...
[03:00] <ubotu> osvaldo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:00] <scguy318> davubuntu: not sure if apt-get has reinstall command
[03:00] <astro76> problemswithubun, I wish I could help
[03:00] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, Your audio setting are on in the gui? that is no little red crosses??
[03:00] <jrib> osvaldo: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:00] <scguy318> davubuntu: and sudo of course
[03:01] <osvaldo> j#ubuntu-br
[03:01] <waltercool> hello there! someone know how release a busy audio?
[03:01] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: what's gui?... i'll bet that question betrays my newbicity
[03:01] <Toma-> seuaniu: what release are you after?
[03:01] <kitche> yonkeltron: there is no relationship between ubuntu and Jruby
[03:02] <yonkeltron> kitche: no plans to integrate jruby into the package tree or anything?
[03:02] <jrib> scguy318: apt-get --reinstall install  but aptitude *is* nicer
[03:02] <osvaldo> #ubuntu-br
[03:02] <kitche> yonkeltron: umm have to go read launchpad on that
[03:02] <asjad> hi
[03:02] <osvaldo> exit
[03:02] <scguy318> jrib: ah, didnt know that :)
[03:02] <jrib> osvaldo: nao, faz assim:   /join #ubuntu-br
[03:02] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, graphic user interface the windows like thing. click system/preference/sounds and nosy around in there for a bit
[03:02] <scguy318> jrib: ah, didnt know that :)
[03:02] <asjad> any equivalent of daemon tools for ubuntu?
[03:02] <scguy318> asjad: AcetoneISO2, not in repo tho
[03:02] <punzada> does anyone know how/if its possible to install beryl themes in compizfusion?
[03:02] <casiox> which packages are relevant to get audio-output by connecting to a flash-media-server for video-chat?
[03:03] <asjad> thanks
[03:03] <scguy318> asjad: you'll have to find a third-party deb for AcetoneISO2 and a newer fuseiso than repo
[03:03] <osvaldo> join ubuntu-br
[03:03] <passbe> does anyone get corrupt filenames when viewing a samba mounted directory ?
[03:03] <jrib> osvaldo: com o / tambem
[03:03] <jxxxt> bgh, How are you getting along??
[03:04] <osvaldo> join-ubuntu-br
[03:04] <bgh-> still not able to get into the screensaver controls
[03:04] <rhomu> hola
[03:04] <scguy318> osvaldo: type /join #ubuntu-br like that
[03:04] <bgh-> is there any way i can reinstall just that component?
[03:04] <Troseph> !win32 | troseph
[03:04] <MongooseWA> is it safe to install or make hidden the avant-window-navigator directly in my home?
[03:04] <bgh-> i don't want it to reset and force me to log in if i walk away for more than 10 mins
[03:05] <jxxxt> osvaldo, it is /join #name
[03:06] <asjad> any acetoneiso2 equivalent for x64 systems?
[03:06] <scguy318> asjad: you could try making from source
[03:06] <scguy318> asjad: if that is the case for you
[03:06] <bruenig> asjad, called mount
[03:06] <DaveG|> hey, i've got a 20" monitor and a geforce 8800 gts... and anytime i boot with the ubuntu splashscreen, it just goes blank and doesn't boot. i've not got ubuntu installed atm but could someone tell me how to fix it?
[03:06] <scguy318> bruenig: not necessarily, if hes using some exotic file formast
[03:06] <bruenig> !iso
[03:06] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:06] <problemswithubun> jxxt: ok... yeah, i nosed around in there for a bit... alsa is showing up... i can't seem to get any sound... even when i try doing any of the test sounds i get nothing
[03:06] <asjad> ok thanks ppl
[03:07] <Pelo> gerro, you around ?
[03:07] <casiox> how can i install a externel lan-hd under ubuntu?
[03:08] <leo_rockw> anybody here uses uswsusp/s2disk?
[03:08] <DaveG|> hey, i've got a 20" monitor and a geforce 8800 gts... and anytime i boot with the ubuntu splashscreen, it just goes blank and doesn't boot. i've not got ubuntu installed atm but could someone tell me how to fix it?
[03:08] <nnutter> for anyone using gutsy, is tracker indexing PDFs for you? mine is definitely not
[03:08] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, right click on the speaker symbol and see if there are any red crosses
[03:08] <scguy318> DaveG|: have you tried booting in safe graphics mode?
[03:08] <bgh-> or anyone know how to disable the screensaver altogether?
[03:08] <MasterShrek> Dave123, i think u just need to get rid of 'splash' on the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:09] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: no red crosses... just looks like a regular menu to me
[03:09] <Pelo> bgh-,   menu  > system > prefs >  screen saver move the cursor to the far right
[03:09] <Dave123> did someone call?
[03:09] <MasterShrek> sorry Dave123 i meant DaveG|
[03:09] <scguy318> Dave123: MasterShrek addressed the wrong person
[03:09] <bgh-> pelo i can't get into the screensaver prefs without the system resetting on me. i need a CLI to disable the whole screensaver.
[03:09] <DaveG|> MasterShrek: yes i've tried that and it works.. but i would like the splash screen. scguy318 yeah, i've tried it without the splash bit
[03:10] <Pelo> bgh-,  hold on
[03:10] <scguy318> DaveG|: looks like post-installation you'll probably need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:10] <scguy318> DaveG|: and select vesa
[03:10] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, I meant to open volume control after you right click now look for crosses
[03:10] <Pelo> bgh-,  I can find this it might take me a few minutes
[03:10] <XiXaQ> kitche, thanks, it seems to be working :)
[03:10] <DaveG|> scguy318: then i won't have 3d accelaration
[03:11] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: nope... looks like a regular mixer... i can make red crosses, and unmake redcrosses, but their were none when i first opened it up
[03:11] <Mr_Siebel> Does anybody in here know anything of Flux?
[03:12] <rathel> I connect to another computer through SSH and I use ssh -X, anyway I can bring an application from that computer to this one in it's current state instead of opening a new one?
[03:12] <MTecknology> where is xorg/modules/input going to be at?
[03:12] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, Sorry it is too clever for me then, it is bizarre that the live cd works so I am sure it is a setting
[03:12] <jgoguen> nnutter: it's indexing them for me
[03:12] <scguy318> DaveG|: you can install nvidia-glx after
[03:13] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, The slider on the mixer were up yes
[03:13] <DaveG|> scguy318: well... the driver was installed before
[03:13] <jgoguen> nnutter: I searched for a PDF I added less than an hour ago, and it showed up
[03:13] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: i'm guessing it must have been from one of the updates from when i reinstalled ubuntu, so if i could just get it back to how it was before the updates i think i'd be fine, but i'd rather not have to reinstall again... yeah the sliders were at the tippy top
[03:13] <nnutter> jgoguen: ok, you searched for text in the PDF right, not the filename?
[03:14] <xorg> hi all
[03:14] <scguy318> DaveG|: restricted drivers are not used until you install :)
[03:14] <didem> scguy318: Hi again, everytime I reboot i have to modprob agiain to get a connection. I made a /etc/modprobe file with ipw3945 in it, but no luck.
[03:14] <jgoguen> nnutter: both...the text I searched for occurs in the filename and the text, I'll try again with something not in the filename
[03:14] <scguy318> didem: you edited the file and added that line to the end?
[03:15] <scguy318> didem: actually, on second thought, i typoed :)
[03:15] <scguy318> didem: moment
[03:15] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, which version of ubuntu are you using
[03:15] <jgoguen> nnutter: I still get the file result, and this time the search terms do not occur in the filename
[03:15] <DaveG|> scguy318: well ... when i had ubuntu installed (before i tried installing the beta 6.10 via update manager) i had it installed.. and it did it... it does it with live cds too...
[03:16] <bgh-> does ubuntu run gnome by default?
[03:16] <nnutter> jgoguen: ok thank you then most likely mine is broke for some reason
[03:16] <Pelo> bgh-,  yes,  kubuntu for kde
[03:16] <scguy318> didem: i gave you the wrong file name, it should be /etc/modules
[03:16] <DaveG|> bgh-: yes, kubuntu with kde and xubuntu with xfce
[03:16] <Pelo> bgh-,  and I failed on the other problem
[03:16] <scguy318> didem: sry for mistake
[03:17] <scguy318> didem: edit as root of course
[03:17] <didem> scguy318:  no prob, ill try that
[03:17] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: feisty fawn
[03:17] <bgh-> hm, so gnome-screensaver is what i'm looking for
[03:17] <ivx> hey what command will list all the services listening and what ports, like apache ssh etc
[03:17] <scguy318> DaveG|: the restricted driver? in Feisty, the Restricted Driver Manager does that
[03:17] <jgoguen> nnutter: I don't know if it makes a difference, but I have Tracker set to index and watch my home directory
[03:17] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: and i have a gateway laptop... amd64
[03:17] <scguy318> ivx: not sure about getting PIDs, but netstat?
[03:18] <DaveG|> scguy318: ?? yes i know that... ? :S
[03:18] <ivx> scguy318
[03:18] <scguy318> DaveG|: sry, i must not be understanding :(
[03:18] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, Should be fine. Try to get some one else to have a look in a while
[03:18] <ivx> scguy318 yeah i don't need the process ids
[03:18] <scguy318> ivx: netstat -ant would suffice
[03:18] <Pelo> anyway,  later folks
[03:19] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, Oh the amd 64 might be an issue did you do the amd 64 iso??
[03:19] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: yes i did... is that a problem?
[03:20] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: by the way, i just installed every update that the update manager presented to me... should i maybe have not used some of them?
[03:20] <_michael_> hey all. I have ubuntu duel booted with vista on my laptop. I get the GRUB prompt to choose which operating system to start with and now for some reason the vista option has dissapeared...I just did allow some automatic updates in ubuntu to install as well.
[03:20] <leo_rockw> _michael_, do you know how to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:20] <riotkittie> _michael_ : you can easily re-add it but you will need to edit a file
[03:20] <_michael_> i have done it once
[03:20] <nnutter> jgoguen: thanks for you help, I too have it set to index my home directory, it is actually indexing the PDFs but two things happened
[03:21] <pbx> I asked this earlier and any replies got lost in the noise -- are there any KHTML based browser that don't depend on KDE?
[03:21] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, My first amd install was so bad that I canned it and reinstalled the 32bit system/ I think the updates are ok
[03:21] <_michael_> i rearranged the boot list so vista was default
[03:21] <leo_rockw> _michael_, you would just need to add the line to that file to get the option to boot vista again
[03:21] <hagabaka> is the new GPL'd oss going to be packaged?
[03:21] <_michael_> what is the file? i remember opening it from the terminal before.
[03:22] <problemswithubun> jxxxt: hmm... well what's the difference between a 32 and 64 bit system?
[03:22] <nnutter> jgoguen: for some reason the PDFs I downloaded were not indexed, but once I moved them to another folder they were. second, apparently the print to PDF feature in ubuntu is crappy and does not correctly print text in the PDF. for example while a word looks like 'climate' when I view the PDF when I tried to copy and past that word what I got was 'GPMQEXI'
[03:22] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, Maybe you should have a look on ubuntu forums they have a amd64 forum
[03:22] <leo_rockw> _michael_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:22] <jxxxt> problemswithubun, The 32/64bit answer is too complex for me
[03:22] <mlyon> hi, how can I play my DRM protected eaudiobook that I got from my library?
[03:23] <_michael_> forgive me for not knowing how to open the file in the terminal
[03:23] <TheSkorm> !HALP
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about halp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <leo_rockw> _michael_, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:23] <leo_rockw> _michael_, that will open the file
[03:23] <bgh-> this is frustrating what package is the basic standard default ubuntu screensaver? i tried removing xscreensaver, but apparently that's not what is being used
[03:23] <drsys> fluxbuntu
[03:24] <bgh-> at this point i just want to reinstall the specific package
[03:24] <kitche> bgh-: gnome-screensaver maybe?
[03:24] <MasterShrek> xscreensaver
[03:25] <_michael_> that did not open the file. I am still in the terminal is a blank screen
[03:25] <punzada> question, for awhile now in my update manager i've had the same (old at this point) compiz-core update sitting in there, i've tried installing it like 3 times and now since the last compiz upgrade I don't want to install it, it keeps saying when I had that it was installed fine but never leaves my update manager
[03:25] <punzada> any clue to how to get it out of there? it's quite annoying ;/
[03:25] <leo_rockw> _michael_, try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst if you're using gnome otherwise try sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst if you're using kde
[03:26] <TheSkorm> Whats the easiest way to clean all ports in my /usr/ports so I can lower the file size?
[03:26] <_michael_> sorry. I have the file now... I don't realy know what to add
[03:26] <leo_rockw> _michael_, do you know in which partition is vista?
[03:26] <_michael_> i think so
[03:28] <leo_rockw> _michael_, http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html
[03:28] <anzo> hey i would like a hand with something if i could>?
[03:29] <Flannel> !ask | anzo
[03:29] <ubotu> anzo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <anzo> ive got an issue with an external drive - it mounts but its NTFS
[03:29] <anzo> ubotu: so i don't have write adccess
[03:29] <MasterShrek> !ntfs-3g | anzo
[03:29] <ubotu> anzo: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:30] <leo_rockw> _michael_, just change sd0/hd0 for the partition you want
[03:30] <leo_rockw> anzo, ubotu is a bot
[03:30] <anzo> MasterShrek: awesome i'll give it a go - will this be ok for a removable external drive also?
[03:30] <MasterShrek> yes anzo
[03:30] <anzo> MasterShrek: wicked
[03:32] <narothepharoh> whats up guys i got a different pc and im trying to boot from cd but it automatically goes to this pre boot thing and wont do anything else ever hear of that?
[03:32] <open-gl> hey guys i download the firmware to my network wireless card and open the terminal
[03:32] <open-gl> step 1 - tar -xjvf bcm4311_firmware.tar.bz2
[03:32] <open-gl> step 2 - sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[03:32] <open-gl> step 3 - sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[03:32] <open-gl> step 4 - gksu gedit /etc/modules
[03:32] <open-gl> step 5 - i typed in the modules file in the bottom "bcm43xx" with out the quotes and cliked save.
[03:32] <open-gl> now what do i do
[03:33] <open-gl> i am trying to get the wireless to work
[03:33] <narothepharoh> whats up guys i got a different pc and im trying to boot from cd but it automatically goes to this pre boot thing and wont do anything else ever hear of that?
[03:33] <open-gl> i have it set on wep also
[03:33] <punzada> anyone off the top of their head know the compizfusion plugin that puts all the current opened windows into a smaller array on one screen?
[03:33] <MasterShrek> open-gl, do you get any output from: iwlist eth scan
[03:33] <bgh-> gar this is taking too much of my time
[03:33] <jscinoz_> general question: what would be the max safe temp in C of a core 2 duo laptop CPU? mines currently running at 73 and it seems a tad high.
[03:34] <bgh-> gnome-screensaver's ./configure file isn't able to make an executable
[03:34] <Ice|Home> punzada:  its the expo
[03:34] <cafuego> Why are you compiling it like that anyway?
[03:34] <bgh-> anyone know a faster more idiot-friendly way to install the latest gnome-screensaver?
[03:34] <punzada> ty
[03:34] <bgh-> cafuego: because i'm an idiot, obviously. :)
[03:34] <open-gl> it says eth       Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:35] <MasterShrek> open-gl, did u turn it on?
[03:35] <cafuego> bgh-: sudo apt-get install gnome-screensavers
[03:35] <Anthology> hi, is there a cli/text based browser that will display .cgi web pages?
[03:35] <MasterShrek> open-gl, also make sure it appears when you type: ifconfig
[03:35] <bgh-> ahh. i was thinking i needed to use jhbuild or something
[03:35] <kitche> Anthology: all browsers should display .cgi unless the server is not setup correctly
[03:35] <cafuego> bgh-: if you need to compile, build from a source deb using dpkg-buildpackage
[03:35] <Ignominy> now that I've installed ktemperature through the package manager, how do I enable it?
[03:35] <narothepharoh> whats up guys i got a different pc and im trying to boot from cd but it automatically goes to this pre boot thing and wont do anything else ever hear of that?
[03:35] <bgh-> gotcha.
[03:36] <Anthology> kitche, its my router interface thing. it gives me the log in screen but then goes blank...
[03:36] <punzada> Ice|Home, that's not quite it, that sets up all the desktops in an array, i'm looking for the plugin that sets up all the currect opened software in an array on the desktop thats being used
[03:36] <punzada> i've seen it in a few vids, been poking around trying to find it
[03:36] <Ice|Home> punzada:  ah alright, thats.....
[03:37] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how to roll back graphics drivers?
[03:37] <open-gl> MasterSherk - lo and eth has nothing but eth1 does have
[03:37] <slimjimflim> i installed new ones and now i can't `startx`
[03:37] <Ice|Home> punzada:  ...something i don't know.
[03:37] <open-gl> i did iwoncfig
[03:37] <punzada> lol :)
[03:37] <open-gl> iwconfig
[03:37] <punzada> I'll keep looking then
[03:38] <MasterShrek> open-gl, do ifconifg and see if eth1 appears, if it doesnt do this: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[03:38] <slimjimflim> can anyone help?
[03:38] <didem> hello running edgy and I have to modprobe -r ipw3945 and then modprobe ipw3945 everytime to get wireless to work. How can I automate this??
[03:38] <mluser-home> Is there a way to not use keyring manager for making wireless network connections?
[03:38] <slimjimflim> running feisty
[03:38] <YenSid1> I just started messing around with Linux about a month ago or so through Ubuntu.  It's running pretty smooth but then I started reading up about Debian.  What's really the difference between the two OS's?
[03:38] <geezone> test
[03:38] <open-gl> it says bash: ipconfig: command not found
[03:38] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, what kind of wireless card is it?
[03:38] <Flannel> mluser-home: because you don't want to type your password?  or what?
[03:38] <Flannel> open-gl: ifconfig
[03:38] <MasterShrek> ifconfig open-gl
[03:38] <MasterShrek> with an 'f'
[03:38] <open-gl> oh ok
[03:39] <MasterShrek> YenSid1, mostly the software that is available
[03:39] <slimjimflim> MasterShrek, wireless card? i'm talking about a graphics card
[03:39] <didem> I tried /etc/module and added ipw3945 but still no luck
[03:39] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, thats what i meant lol
[03:39] <mluser-home> Flannel: Well.. not exactly, I'd like the computer to join my wifi network without me having to log in to my account, just like it does with a wired network
[03:39] <Ignominy> now that I've installed ktemperature through the package manager, how do I enable it?
[03:39] <open-gl> ok ifconfig has some stuff
[03:39] <mluser-home> Flannel: So I guess the answer to your question is yes.. so I dont have to type the password
[03:39] <slimjimflim> MasterShrek it's a nvidia geforce 4
[03:39] <MasterShrek> open-gl, did it have anything for eth1?
[03:40] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, what drivers did you install?
[03:40] <open-gl> yes
[03:40] <MasterShrek> open-gl, but iwlist eth1 scan still shows no scan results?
[03:40] <slimjimflim> hang on, i'll look
[03:40] <open-gl> let me recheck
[03:41] <open-gl> it shows
[03:41] <Ikari_Gendo> So what's going on in here?
[03:41] <open-gl> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ iwlist eth1 scan
[03:41] <open-gl> eth1      No scan results
[03:41] <annibis> I just restarted my laptop and apparently some program felt the need to mess up and delete gconf files, so does anybody know how to reconfigure gconf?
[03:41] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, what i mean is how did you install your drivers? from nvidia's site, through the restricted drivers thing or what?
[03:41] <Anthology> Ikari_Gendo, are you from san antonio?
[03:41] <MasterShrek> open-gl, are you sure your access point is broadcasting?
[03:41] <open-gl> yes i am sure its on
[03:42] <open-gl> i see the blue light on the laptop is on
[03:42] <open-gl> before it was off until i did sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware
[03:42] <MasterShrek> yea that sounds right open-gl
[03:43] <bgh-> daagh. i just removed and re-installed gnome-screensaver but the bugger's still crashing my system
[03:43] <MasterShrek> but i dont know why it wouldnt be able to see any access points
[03:43] <bgh-> i'm on the verge of giving up
[03:43] <erisco> I tried asking on #vmware but no one is around... I am running vmware-server on ubuntu 7.10. Is it possible to have a virtual machine running windows xp pro to use a real hard disk partition instead of a virtual drive?
[03:44] <gerro> bgh: could consider trying xfce (xubuntu) its like gnome except uses different approach
[03:44] <MasterShrek> erisco, i think so, but i dont know for sure, one thing is that it may make the windows drive unbootable
[03:44] <erisco> MasterShrek, well even if it wasn't bootable that'd be fine. It would still mean easier file sharing between ubuntu and the virtual computer
[03:45] <bgh-> gerro: all i want to do is put something in there to replace the crash i've got going on now
[03:45] <YenSid1> So software is just the difference?
[03:45] <erisco> MasterShrek, any ideas on where I can find out?
[03:45] <erstazi> erisco: MasterShrek is correct, you might have better luck with virtualbox doing that
[03:45] <gerro> MasterShrek: try adding it to blacklist and using ndiswrapper by reading http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[03:45] <MasterShrek> erisco, just try it, thats whay i would do
[03:45] <erisco> erstazi, virtualbox is another software package like vmware right?
[03:45] <bgh-> all i want to do with this bloody thing is install MAME, but i need to disable the screensaver and it's giving me a spot of a problem
[03:45] <joules> hey guys i have a question whenever i open a window it keeps showing up under the menu bar .. im running gutsy
[03:45] <erstazi> erisco: yes
[03:45] <erisco> MasterShrek, I would try it but I cannot find any option to allow me to try it :P
[03:45] <MasterShrek> gerro, ?
[03:45] <erisco> erstazi, but it isn't free is it?..
[03:45] <erstazi> yes
[03:45] <erstazi> its free
[03:46] <MasterShrek> erisco, add a hard drive to your vm, and use a physical disk
[03:46] <erstazi> erisco: I believe it is open source GPL
[03:46] <MasterShrek> joules, #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <slimjimflim> MasterShrek it was the legacy linux 32 bit driver
[03:46] <gerro> MasterShrek: what?
[03:46] <erisco> MasterShrek, I just cannot find how to do that =\ I've looked
[03:47] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, assuming you are using the 32 bit version of ubuntu, use the regular driver, not the legacy
[03:47] <open-gl> i just did sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [network name]  since i know my network name
[03:47] <MasterShrek> erisco, i cant help you, i dont use vmware anymore, it shouldnt be that hard though, ive done it with debian before
[03:47] <slimjimflim> ya, that's what i'd like to do, i just don't know how to switch back from bash, mastershrek
[03:47] <erisco> MasterShrek, maybe you were not using vmware-server
[03:47] <erisco> MasterShrek, there are other packages I believe...
[03:47] <Anthology> ...pinky
[03:47] <MasterShrek> open-gl, ok, next you want to do: sudo iwconfig eth1 key [wep key] 
[03:48] <bgh-> thanks guys for the help you tried to offer, i'm calling it a night with this one.
[03:48] <administrator> 
[03:48] <bgh-> gar.
[03:48] <erisco> MasterShrek, but if what erstazi suggests with virtualbox is true it would be the better solution... because its open source :P
[03:48] <MasterShrek> yes i was erisco, i remember when it first came out
[03:48] <erisco> MasterShrek, I'll look again
[03:48] <MasterShrek> i use qemu erisco, which i guess is virtualbox, which i shold be trying
[03:49] <open-gl> ok i did it mastersherk
[03:49] <open-gl> whats next
[03:49] <MasterShrek> open-gl, sudo dhclient3 eth1
[03:49] <gerro> MasterShrek: virtualbox is a tweaked up qemu
[03:49] <erstazi> if I remember correctly, VirtualBox is based on gemu
[03:49] <MasterShrek> slimjimflim, wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.19/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[03:50] <gerro> MasterShrek: basically throughing in gui and stuff to add functionality to qemu that is present in vmware and other solutions
[03:50] <MasterShrek> yea thats what ive heard, my qemu runs fine tho, i dont want to mess it up lol
[03:50] <open-gl> MasterShrek, i did it
[03:50] <slimjimflim> ty
[03:50] <erstazi> the "free" version of vmware player is less configurable than virtualbox
[03:50] <MasterShrek> open-gl, did you get an ip address?
[03:50] <open-gl> no
[03:50] <gerro> MasterShrek: and erstazi makes a good point
[03:51] <erisco> MasterShrek, ah I see where it is. You have to set up the virtual machine upon its creation to use a physical disk
[03:51] <MasterShrek> yes erisco
[03:51] <MasterShrek> open-gl, then youll have to probably go for the ndiswrapper approach if its not working with the kernel module
[03:51] <erstazi> erisco: with virtual box, you can add "hard drives"
[03:51] <erstazi> whether real or virtual
[03:51] <MasterShrek> virtualbox in the reops?
[03:51] <MasterShrek> repos*
[03:52] <erstazi> erisco: I would give it a try, at first, I disliked it, but it grew to my liking, its pretty light weight
[03:52] <open-gl> got this
[03:52] <adam__> hi, I'm trying to setup a laptop using fglrx to use only the external monitor, not the one on the laptop.  Any ideas?  I've got 3d acceleration working, and I just need to edit xorg.conf to use the external screen.  thanks :)
[03:52] <open-gl> DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
[03:52] <open-gl> bound to 192.168.1.42 -- renewal in 36445 seconds
[03:52] <erstazi> MasterShrek: yes
[03:52] <doodle77> any idea how to get bcm43xx workin? i got the firmwares, and it claims "bcm43xx: Radio turned off" >.>
[03:52] <erisco> erstazi, does it support drag and drop from linux to windows xp?
[03:52] <MasterShrek> open-gl, then you got an ip address
[03:52] <kitche> doodle77: turn the radio on
[03:52] <doodle77> and there is no radio swithc
[03:52] <doodle77> it's a pc card
[03:52] <erstazi> erisco: mmm not sure on that, but copy and paste from host to guest or guest to host works
[03:52] <MasterShrek> doodle77, what model broadcom
[03:52] <adam__> doodle77, try sudo ifconfig eth1 up      where eth1 is the wireless card
[03:52] <kitche> doodle77: sure there is iwconfig <interface> radio on
[03:52] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know how to fix this error? http://yurimxpxman.dyndns.org/error
[03:53] <open-gl> oh ok
[03:53] <erisco> erstazi, that is one point over vmware-server
[03:53] <doodle77> ah
[03:53] <doodle77> thx
[03:53] <MasterShrek> open-gl, you should be good to go then
[03:53] <kitche> doodle77: you need to use sudo of course
[03:53] <open-gl> ok i am going to take out the wire to see if it works
[03:53] <elektronisch> any way of upgrading my ubuntu install to 7.10 beta?
[03:54] <MasterShrek> elektronisch, gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[03:54] <elektronisch> thanks
[03:54] <erisco> MasterShrek, I still cannot seem to setup the virtual machine =\ it needs to store a file about the disk partitions or something... but no matter where I try to put it vmware says it doesn't have permissions to create the file
[03:55] <erstazi> erisco: actually, its funny that you mention all this, I ssh tunnel so the guest's apache will broadcast on this host, but, I cannot get an open port so it works on the network
[03:55] <YenSid1> How stable is 7.10 beta right now?
[03:55] <didem> hi, my ipw3945 kernel module wont load at startup, so I cant connect unless i do it manually. How can i get this to work?
[03:55] <elektronisch> awesome! ubuntu is an amazing distro.
[03:55] <YenSid1> When I did my first clean install of Feisty, I had 0 problems.  It was pretty cut and dry
[03:56] <nonewmsgs> what is the command to mount an ipod?
[03:56] <elektronisch> been using slackware for 5 years, and this makes my life 20x easier!
[03:56] <MasterShrek> erisco, then you dont have permissions to be using that hard drive, you probably need to add your user to the disk group, and maybe install ntfs-3g also
[03:56] <erstazi> nonewmsgs: mount
[03:56] <adam__> YenSid1, on one computer (this one) it works pretty well, on the other laptop it doesn't work quite as well (Gutsy beta)
[03:56] <jrib> elektronisch: erm, I heard upgrade is unreliable at the moment.  You should ask gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <MasterShrek> elektronisch, =P i use slack on my server
[03:56] <YenSid1> elektronisch: you didn't like slackware?
[03:56] <erstazi> erisco: definitely use ntfs-3g
[03:56] <nonewmsgs> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/sda
[03:56] <nonewmsgs> mount: mount point /mnt/sda does not exist
[03:56] <alcaponage> i need help installing beryl
[03:56] <erisco> MasterShrek, well I can read and write to my NTFS disks fine
[03:56] <alcaponage> can anyone help?
[03:57] <jrib> alcaponage: #ubuntu-effects can help you with that
[03:57] <YenSid1> adam:  I'm using a laptop and it's my only computer right now.  That's why I'm a bit skeptical. lol
[03:57] <jrib> !effects > alcaponage (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:57] <MasterShrek> ok erisco then dont worry about that, add your user to disk group and make sure the group has write access to that partition
[03:57] <erstazi> nonewmsgs: an ipod should automatically mount, mine does.. ls /media/
[03:57] <erisco> erstazi, MasterShrek, I have ntfs-3g already
[03:57] <anzo> Hi, i've got a problem after installing the NTFS=3g support i think - now it wont auto mount and i get an error message when trying to access the external drive http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3247/screenshotzq6.png
[03:57] <erstazi> erisco: hard to say on that
[03:57] <elektronisch> YenSid1, oh i love slackware.  but on a headless system i just think ubuntu was a lot easier to setup and maintain
[03:57] <adam__> YenSid1, be skeptical :) if it's your only computer I'd wait till it is finalized.
[03:57] <erstazi> erisco: you can always make and ISO image of your windows partition and use that as a vm
[03:58] <nonewmsgs> erisco i have been having trouble with my usb mounting....gparted says it can see a device at /dev/sda1 (although it says unknown file system)
[03:58] <anzo> can this be fixed?
[03:58] <YenSid1> adam: lol, ok.  I can wait a couple more weeks.
[03:58] <YenSid1> elektronisch: Ah....I heard it's one of the hardest distros out there
[03:58] <adam__> YenSid1, I only say that because I'm hacking away at xorg.conf on the other computer, other then that it works OK as far as I can tell
[03:58] <MasterShrek> YenSid1, not at all, slack is pretty easy really, gentoo is the hard one
[03:58] <erisco> MasterShrek, maybe if I just start vmware as root...
[03:59] <erstazi> gentoo is for the complex
[03:59] <fr500_> hi
[03:59] <anzo> http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3247/screenshotzq6.png
[03:59] <MasterShrek> eriso i wouldnt do that
[03:59] <fr500_> my hard disk is about to die, ill buy another, is there an easy way to move everything from one hd to another?
[03:59] <erisco> MasterShrek, the drive says its owned by root
[03:59] <erstazi> fr500_: tar
[03:59] <MasterShrek> erisco, root:disk isnt it?
[03:59] <erisco> MasterShrek, root:root
[03:59] <erstazi> erisco: I have found that windows partitions are root
[03:59] <erstazi> erisco: at least mine are
[04:00] <fr500_> erstazi: tar?
[04:00] <erstazi> I have 3 computers with dual boot
[04:00] <didem> interfaces
[04:00] <MasterShrek> erisco, then sudo chgrp disk /dev/hdb1  or whatever the partition is
[04:00] <anzo> the NTFS cinfiguration tool seems to be giving me some problems since i inttalled it
[04:00] <usr13>  nonewmsgs: So, what filesystem IS on it?
[04:00] <erisco> erstazi, I have dual boot right now but I dislike it
[04:00] <nonewmsgs> FAT
[04:00] <erstazi> fr500_: yes, the beauty of linux is you can tar your filesystem and copy over to your new computer
[04:00] <MasterShrek> ill be back in a few minutes
[04:00] <d0s> hello
[04:00] <guru> does anyone here remember the problem i was having with alsa sound not working in cedega but oss did?
[04:00] <tcleval> erstazi, that is not all the beauty..
[04:00] <anzo> can someone help me with how this is to be fixed? http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3247/screenshotzq6.png
[04:01] <usr13> nonewmsgs: FAT16 FAT32 ???
[04:01] <erstazi> tcleval: of course, its one of the beauties
[04:01] <YenSid1> adam: you're right.  I'm still very new to Linux and ubuntu, so if something were to go terribly wrong, I'd be lost
[04:01] <fr500_> erstazi: so i should partition everything like it is now and move the files and voila
[04:01] <coreymanshack> my  Intel Corporation 82801G Audio isn't working right
[04:01] <fr500_> a
[04:01] <coreymanshack> can i get some help\
[04:01] <d0s> ok my ubuntu came with compiz fusion installed but i can't find the settings manager for it thats suppose to be in the system -> preference section..anyone know where i can find it?
[04:01] <nonewmsgs> fat32 afaiik
[04:01] <erstazi> fr500_: I would use ext3 if thats what you are using
[04:01] <cafuego> d0s: Desktop Effects
[04:01] <usr13> nonewmsgs:  So you are unable to mount it?
[04:01] <jrib> anzo: did you try one of the options it suggests in the message?
[04:01] <fr500_> erstazi: im using lvm
[04:01] <nonewmsgs> i have used this ipod on this computer numoerous times and it used to automount (but it also usd to read thumb drives)
[04:01] <erisco> erstazi, well MasterShrek just bailed on me so I guess I cannot get this working :P
[04:02] <guru> i'm running on an amd64 system - the reason that alsa sound was not working in cedega is because i did not have the libasound32 (and related) packages installed. just an fyi for anyone else having similar issues (including mplexing sound)
[04:02] <coreymanshack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560125
[04:02] <d0s> yea i found that but theres no way of checking/ unchecking them...or activating or deactiving
[04:02] <usr13> nonewmsgs: Oh, it is an IPod?
[04:02] <anzo> jrib: i don't know what its suggesting really - should i boot into windows and hope that it fixes it?
[04:02] <erisco> erstazi, I will try virtualbox and see what I can get working with it
[04:02] <mikubuntu> can somebody help me partition this 12 gb drive to install xubuntu?  i am having a grub error 18 problem, and the documentation says to create a small partition to call /boot for grub and the kernel, but it doesn't say to what size
[04:02] <erisco> erstazi, why isn't virtualbox in the repositories though?
[04:02] <erstazi> erisco: well, from my experience, windows partitions are root:root, so that means when you are normal user, its only readable
[04:02] <erstazi> erisco: ... I thought it was...
[04:02] <jrib> anzo: yes, it says "boot into windows and shudown it cleanly" unless it's a removable device
[04:03] <anzo> jrib: it's an external hard drive that may be removed - probably set up as a basic dick
[04:03] <didem> hi, my ipw3945 kernel module wont load at startup, any help?
[04:03] <un_dave> morning all
[04:03] <anzo> jrib: DISK sorry i mean
[04:03] <erisco> erstazi, I tried searching the cache for it... no results pertaining to virtual box
[04:03] <jrib> anzo: then do what it suggests for removable devices
[04:03] <guru> is there any chance of nvrec getting into the repository?
[04:03] <Flannel> !away > Eldemon
[04:03] <erstazi> erisco: I might have added the repo for it, let me check
[04:04] <d0s> hey cafuego..i foudn that but im looking for the window that i can activate/deactive plugins for it for different effects
[04:04] <erisco> deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free
[04:04] <un_dave> anzo: you've got an ntfs external drive that isnt mounting?
[04:04] <anzo> jrib: ok sorry i'll give it a go
[04:04] <nonewmsgs> maybe ill reboot and it'll fix itself
[04:04] <fr500_> i assume my hd is dying since i see a lot of dma expiry errors on my hd on dmesg
[04:04] <nonewmsgs> jhold on
[04:05] <erstazi> erisco: I thought it was free but if they are saying its non-free, I consider that weird
[04:05] <NotSure> can somebody help me with command find and its pattern syntax?
[04:05] <coreymanshack> rawr
[04:05] <doodle77> how do you set the clock, shell only?
[04:05] <anzo> un_dave: yeah well it was auto mounting before then i put onthe NTFS config tool afor read/write nd now it won't mount at all
[04:05] <jrib> doodle77: date
[04:05] <doodle77> thx
[04:05] <un_dave> anzo: just install ntfsprogs package, then run ntfsfix
[04:05] <Cryoniq> sigh... each time warhammer online newsletter come, I am praying it will work with wine or they make a linux klient.. ><
[04:05] <NotSure> can somebody help me with command find and its pattern syntax?
[04:05] <erisco> "it is also the only professional solution that is freely available as Open Source Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)."
[04:05] <guru> find /usr/bin -type f -name firefox\* -follow
[04:06] <jrib> NotSure: what about it?
[04:06] <Avt3kk> hiii
[04:06] <erstazi> erisco: then I am baffled why its "non-free" then
[04:06] <NotSure> jrib, ok man, i use -iwholename option
[04:06] <un_dave> anzo: it complains because at some stage you've unplugged the device from windows without pressing eject or whatever
[04:06] <un_dave> anzo: i get it all the time.
[04:06] <NotSure> jrib: and i am trying to make it exclude string "crim", exclude "misc" but accept "list"
[04:06] <aschaetter> Hi all! Does anyone have Sim City 3000 Unlimited installed on Feisty or Gutsy?
[04:06] <delmar> Hey everyone. I'm trying to connect to a PPTP server from behind my Ubuntu box which is the main Router doing Nat.  Whats the trick to make it work?. It was working fine when I had a regular SpeedTouch router in place, but I wanted my Linux box to have the public IP.  Any thoughts on how to get pptp pass through  going?
[04:06] <NotSure> here is my format
[04:06] <slimjimflim> mastershrek, the installer still tells me to use the legacy driver, which is what i did last time.  i should just install anyway, right?
[04:07] <NotSure> find -iwholename '*list*' -o -iwholename '*misc|crim*" - prune
[04:07] <NotSure> it does not work
[04:07] <erstazi> erisco: do you need the windows partition (if its running in a vm) to be using what you write to it
[04:08] <NotSure> jrib, any thoughts on that?
[04:08] <erstazi> erisco: what I think you should do is make an ISO of the windows partition and then make it a virtual hard drive
[04:08] <erstazi> erisco: then you will not lose anything on the windows partition
[04:08] <NotSure> i think 'find' uses different syntax than standard regex
[04:08] <XXer> I am trying to watch some TV shows on ABC.com but it says only people from the USA can watch them (Im in Canada) is there some way to get around this?
[04:08] <erstazi> NotSure: I think its POSIX regex
[04:08] <erstazi> XXer: use a proxy
[04:08] <AncientRelic> Is there a separate channel for Gutsy help?
[04:09] <erstazi> AncientRelic: #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <AncientRelic> erstazi: thanks
[04:09] <aschaetter> Does anyone have Sim City 3000 Unlimited installed on Feisty or Gutsy?
[04:09] <NotSure> how can i exclude a whole string, not just one character in POSIX regex?
[04:09] <jrib> NotSure: meh, I wouldn't mess with it, I would just use grep -v....
[04:09] <NotSure> what is grep?
[04:09] <YenSid1> What kinda laptops is everyone using and recommends?  I'm shopping for a new laptop, but all I know are Dells...
[04:09] <jrib> NotSure: it's not regex that you are doing.  Those are globs
[04:09] <erstazi> NotSure: in terminal: man grep
[04:09] <t3318> YenSid1: IBM T61 :)
[04:09] <tofik> tes] 
[04:09] <NotSure> ok, but briefly why grep but not find?
[04:10] <erisco> erstazi, ultimately my computer will be setup like so... I have a 200GB drive. 50GB will be windows and 150GB will be linux (factoring in a 2GB swap drive and whatnot). The 50GB partition will be NTFS with windows XP pro installed on it. Using ubuntu as my host I want to boot up the ntfs partition and use windows. Additionally I want to be able to restart and boot into windows to use it fully
[04:10] <erisco> erstazi, make sense? is it possible?
[04:10] <jrib> NotSure: find stuff_i_care_about | grep -v stuff_i_do_not_care_about
[04:10] <NotSure> ok, wait
[04:10] <usr13> about PPTP - http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/linux_pptp.html
[04:10] <nonewmsgs> ok my ipod has mounted with the full reboot (YAY) but now my sound is gone
[04:11] <aschaetter> Does anyone have Sim City 3000 Unlimited installed on Feisty or Gutsy? I am getting the following error when i try to run sc3u: X Error:  BadMatch
[04:11] <aschaetter>   Request Major code 140 (XVideo)
[04:11] <aschaetter>   Request Minor code 19 ()
[04:11] <aschaetter>   Error Serial #20
[04:11] <aschaetter>   Current Serial #21
[04:11] <erstazi> erisco: well, my suggestion is to make an ISO of the windows partition, that way it doesn't get messed up
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> YenSid1: I'm on a Lenovo ThinkPad T43, but I've been eyeing System76's offerings.
[04:11] <erstazi> aschaetter: is this running through wine?
[04:11] <nonewmsgs> i think it sometimes is trying to play through my disabled in BIOS builtin soundcard.  is that possible?  it still lists it in the volume and in lspci
[04:11] <aschaetter> erstazi: no, its the linux native loki version
[04:11] <erisco> erstazi, I don't care if it is messed up. this computer is being whacked and reloaded
[04:11] <fr500_> erstazi: does it care if im currently using lvm?
[04:11] <didem> scguy318:  hi, my ipw3945 kernel module still wont load at startup, any help?
[04:12] <erisco> erstazi, the other point to having windows on a physical disk is so that I can drag and drop files from ubuntu to windows
[04:12] <scguy318> didem: you made the change to /etc/modules?
[04:12] <erstazi> fr500_: tar will tar, doesn't matter the filesystem
[04:12] <YenSid1> tonyyarusso: System76? What's that?
[04:12] <fr500_> erstazi: maybe it's easier to backup my /home and reinstall everything
[04:12] <didem> yes
[04:12] <usr13> erisco: Yes
[04:12] <Jordan_U> nonewmsgs, Make sure that the correct default card is set with "asoundconf list" and "asoundconf set-default-card <card name>"
[04:12] <scguy318> YenSid1: System76 is a computer seller that bundles Ubuntu
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> YenSid1: system76.com
[04:12] <scguy318> didem: mm
[04:12] <coreymanshack> Cryoniq
[04:12] <coreymanshack> wrong paste....
[04:12] <scguy318> didem: can you pastebin dmesg | grep -i ipw3945
[04:12] <coreymanshack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560125
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> YenSid1: I've heard nothing but good things so far, so definitely considering them for my next system.
[04:12] <YenSid1> I was looking at the Thinkpads today.  They look professional and powerful, but I've seen one or known anyone that's used one.
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> YenSid1: they have a section on the Ubuntu Forums too.
 Im new to this stuff and not sure what a proxy is or how to set it up do you have a link where I could read up on it?
[04:13] <erisco> usr13, it would be a wicked setup eh? :D
[04:13] <coreymanshack> hidemyass.com, xxer
[04:13] <Jordan_U> corenominal, Have you checked alsamixer to make sure everything is unmuted and turned up?
[04:13] <YenSid1> tonyyarusso: ooo..thanks!  Let me bookmark that and check it out.  I had settled on the Dell 1420, but wanted something different so I started looking around at what else is out there.
[04:14] <slimjimflim> does anyone know how to temporarily shut off gdm?
[04:14] <nonewmsgs> how can you delete a device? (my built in soundcard) i have t disabled but sometimes it ONLY plays out of that instead of my auduigy 2zs
[04:14] <lain_> hi hi, would anyone be able to help me with figuring out a problem with japanese language in firefox on ubuntu?
[04:14] <scguy318> slimjimflim: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:14] <scguy318> slimjimflim: change the stop to start to start it back up
[04:14] <Jordan_U> nonewmsgs, Change the default card with asoundconf
[04:14] <usr13>  erisco: too many converstions... What r we talking about?  :)
[04:14] <slimjimflim> scguy318, ty
[04:15] <Jordan_U> lain_, If you speak japanese you may get better support from the japanese channel
[04:15] <erisco> usr13, virtual machines
[04:15] <geo-rge> lain_: can't do much without knowing the specifics in detail
[04:15] <didem> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39219/
[04:16] <slimjimflim> how about shutting off "x server"
[04:16] <slimjimflim> anyone?
[04:16] <scguy318> didem: [17181340.880000]  ipw3945: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On: is an interesting line
[04:16] <erisco> erstazi, it seems virtualbox is free for evaluation and personal use only... so I am guessing there is a charge for profit uses
[04:16] <scguy318> didem: check any buttons on your laptop that control the radio?
[04:16] <erstazi> erisco: there is no charge at all
[04:16] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:16] <erstazi> erisco: thats just donating
[04:16] <erstazi> GPL allows donations
[04:16] <didem> scguy318: thats when I tried it to see if it made any difference
[04:16] <erisco> erstazi, well I have it installed now... but...
[04:17] <erstazi> erisco: unless you are a big business, then its cost
[04:17] <open-gl> thanks mastershrek got wireless to work
[04:17] <erstazi> s/its cost/it costs/
[04:17] <erisco> erstazi, how can I start it up? virtualbox in the terminal doesn't work and there is nothing new in my menus :P
[04:17] <aschaetter> what does this error usually mean??                        X Error:  BadMatch
[04:17] <aschaetter>   Request Major code 140 (XVideo)
[04:17] <aschaetter>   Request Minor code 19 ()
[04:17] <aschaetter>   Error Serial #20
[04:17] <aschaetter>   Current Serial #21
[04:17] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U, i just did that, i need to shut down x server...the binary checking it is giving me an error about it needing to be shut off
[04:17] <NotSure> i am sorry for this question, but how do you exclude an entire string, not just one character, in regexp? suppose i want to specify a pattern that would exclude string "crim" how can I do that?
[04:17] <nonewmsgs> does asoundconf require a reboot
[04:17] <Jordan_U> erstazi, GPL allows charging money also :)
[04:18] <erstazi> Jordan_U: yes I know, we are releasing an AGPL project when that gets finalized
[04:18] <coreymanshack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560125
[04:18] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, What are you installing?
[04:18] <scguy318> didem: didem: mm, how about all of desmg? just redirect dmesg to file, then copy all the contents
[04:18] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U a graphics driver
[04:18] <erstazi> Jordan_U: I didn't say GPL doesn't allow charging
[04:18] <jrib> NotSure: pipe to 'grep -v crim'
[04:18] <erstazi> XXer: google "how to setup a proxy"
[04:18] <scguy318> didem: on second thought, how about lsmod | grep ipw3945 for now
[04:19] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, You know about restricted manager for Nvidia cards correct?
[04:19] <XXer> thanks
[04:19] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U no
[04:19] <erisco> erstazi, oh wait I restarted panels and I got summin
[04:19] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, Go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[04:19] <NotSure> jrib, i see what you mean, but you see, if there is a directory into which 'find' is not supposed to go, then it will still go there but then pipe the output to grep which will then reject the string
[04:19] <usr13> erstazi: http://www.deckle.co.za/squid-users-guide/Main_Page
[04:20] <jrib> NotSure: what's the difference?
[04:20] <NotSure> jrib, 'find' itself has to know that it is not supposed to go into certain types of subdirectories
[04:20] <aschaetter>   Current Serial #21
[04:20] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, It is in many ways better than installing from nvidia.com, though the driver is a little older ( never more than 6 months )
[04:20] <slimjimflim> i know that my original driver wasn't restricted, and that the new one is...i'm trying to go back to the old one...and i have no xwindows, so it all has to be command line
[04:20] <NotSure> jrib, if I pipe the output, it will be like double work
[04:20] <erstazi> usr13: what is that?
[04:20] <usr13> proxy info
[04:20] <NotSure> jrib, 'find' goes into subdirectory, reports the file found, but grep then rejects it
[04:20] <erstazi> usr13: I don't need that
[04:20] <erstazi> usr13: direct it to XXer
[04:20] <zeck_vtc> por favor qual o canal de ajuda do ubuntu em portugues?
[04:20] <NotSure> jrib, 'find must not do extra work'
[04:20] <scguy318> !pt | zeck_vtc
[04:20] <ubotu> zeck_vtc: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:21] <usr13> XXer: http://www.deckle.co.za/squid-users-guide/Main_Page
[04:21] <jrib> NotSure: ... for the computer, it likes work!  What matters is that it is simpler for *you*, the user.  Anyway, you want something like: find -name foo ! -name bar      to match stuff with foo but not bar
[04:21] <zeck_vtc> obrigado
[04:21] <aschaetter> what does this error usually mean??                        X Error:  BadMatch
[04:21] <aschaetter>   Request Major code 140 (XVideo)
[04:21] <aschaetter>   Request Minor code 19 ()
[04:21] <aschaetter>   Error Serial #20
[04:21] <aschaetter>   Current Serial #21
[04:21] <NotSure> jrib OH YEAH? good! wait until  i try it!
[04:21] <jrib> !paste | aschaetter
[04:21] <ubotu> aschaetter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <scguy318> aschaetter: dunno, tried asking in #winehq (you said you were using Wine, right?)
[04:21] <scguy318> *try
[04:21] <Ignominy> can someone recommend a program to monitor my temps?
[04:22] <slimjimflim> jordan_U i DLed from nvidia, you think an apt package would be more usefull?
[04:22] <scguy318> aschaetter: try asking in #winehq
[04:22] <aschaetter> i am NOT using wine
[04:22] <erisco> erstazi, okay I have virtualbox running now. I now need to "attach" sda3 (my windows partition) to my virtual machine. How do I do this? You should know?
[04:22] <bmt2> hello to all
[04:22] <scguy318> Ignominy: lm-sensors, and sensors-applet
[04:22] <Ignominy> cool, thanks scguy
[04:22] <erstazi> erisco: I never attached it, but I am sure its possible
[04:22] <scguy318> Ignominy: do sudo sensors-detect to get all your sensors detected, then modprobe all the kernel modules for them
[04:22] <erisco> erstazi, thanks for telling this now -.-
[04:22] <erstazi> erisco: I only have made ISO images of partitions
[04:22] <bmt2> how do you remove a program that was installed NOT using apt-get
[04:22] <scguy318> aschaetter: perhaps its a vid card driver thing
[04:22] <bmt2> say it was a tar.gz, and i used ./configure
[04:22] <erstazi> erisco: I assumed you would read the manual on it first
[04:22] <scguy318> bmt2: from tarball? MAYBE sudo make uninstall
[04:22] <erisco> erstazi, an ISO image is useless for me :(
[04:23] <scguy318> !checkinstall | bmt2
thanks this looks good
[04:23] <ubotu> bmt2: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:23] <bmt2> scguy318: thanks...i will try that
[04:23] <jrib> bmt2: you try 'make uninstall' from the directory you ran 'make install', but it may not exist.  So you tell yourself that next time you will use checkinstall so you get a package you can remove
[04:23] <usr13> bmt2: Some have a removal script, some don't.
[04:23] <aschaetter> scguy: vid card driver thing?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, Yes, the nice thing about Restricted Manager ( which installs nvidia-glx with apt ) is that when your kernel gets updated the GFX driver does also, if you install from nvidia.com you have to deal with X not starting after each kernel upgrade
[04:23] <scguy318> aschaetter: maybe you need to install restricted?
[04:23] <NotSure> just so that everybody knows, JRID is the MAN!!!! WOWOOWOW!
[04:23] <nonewmsgs> to the fellow who told me about asoundconf -- THANK YOU!!!!1 that was an unresolved post in the forums for ~2months
[04:23] <bmt2> is the checkinstall ran before the ./configure ?
[04:24] <usr13> bmt2: Yes, uninstall comes with some tarballs, not with others.
[04:24] <erstazi> bmt2: after
[04:24] <jrib> bmt2: read the link from ubotu
[04:24] <aschaetter> scguy: i wouldnt have the foggiest on how to do that
[04:24] <t-d-s> anyone know how I can setup a quick launch item for a wine application?  I want to have a button tht launces an app with wine.  I am aslo wondering if I can run this app for certain types of files
[04:24] <t-d-s> is there a web tutorial for this type of stuff?
[04:24] <scguy318> !ati | aschaetter
[04:24] <ubotu> aschaetter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <gogeta> tds
[04:24] <scguy318> aschaetter: im not sure if thats the solution tho
[04:24] <gogeta> set it as a command
[04:24] <coreymanshack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560125
[04:24] <gogeta> wine app.exe
[04:24] <usr13> t-d-s: just link to the executible
[04:24] <bmt2> if i was logging this irc session how do i go about doing it ?
[04:24] <bmt2> i am using irssi
[04:25] <jrib> bmt2: doing what?
[04:25] <gogeta> brnt2 didnt i own you in halo 3
[04:25] <gogeta> LOL
[04:25] <bmt2> logging the particular irc session so that i can refer back to it
[04:25] <t-d-s> ok I will try that
[04:25] <jrib> bmt2: /help log
[04:25] <aschaetter> scguy: my vid card is onboard on an intel laptop chipset. they dont specify a specific brand
[04:25] <bmt2> i missed what ubotu stated....so if i logged the irc session i could have referred back to it
[04:26] <jrib> bmt2: or scroll up :)  I'll have him private message you the info
[04:26] <scguy318> !log
[04:26] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:26] <scguy318> those?
[04:26] <jrib> !checkinstall > bmt2 (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:26] <sotec_prod> If I buy an AM2 64 mobo/processor combo, is it possible to update Ubuntu to run 64bit without a fresh install? Or, will it run great, but still utilize the 64bit architecture with the 32bit Ubuntu OS?
[04:26] <bmt2> jrib: thanks
[04:26] <erisco> erstazi, see the whole thing is that I do NOT want a virtual disk. I want a real disk
[04:26] <erisco> erstazi, and I've read the documentation and I am just not finding anything for that...
[04:26] <gogeta> sotec just install 64bit kernel i guess
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> sotec_prod id stick with 32bit,,  unless you got lots of ram 4+gb
[04:26] <damianl> seeing as though linux is all about free software etc, its ok to pirate things like nullsoft linamp or nerolinux yeah?
[04:26] <gogeta> erico real disk for?
[04:26] <sotec_prod> ah
[04:27] <sotec_prod> that makes sense
[04:27] <scguy318> daminal: no
[04:27] <KStrings> sotec_prod: Do you have a reason for 64-bit?
[04:27] <scguy318> daminal: free and LEGAL :)
[04:27] <jrib> !free > damianl (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:27] <sotec_prod> so a 64bit processor would scream on a 32bit Ubuntu install?
[04:27] <usr13> damianl: no
[04:27] <scguy318> daminal: there is a difference between free as in speech, and free as in beer
[04:27] <gogeta> no
[04:27] <KStrings> sotec_prod: Most applications will loose performance on 64-bit
[04:27] <damianl> scguy318: yeah but its there fault for not obeying the gnu-gpl
[04:27] <gogeta> it wouldsream on 64 bit
[04:27] <sotec_prod> KStrings. not necessarily, just weighing the options
[04:27] <jrib> !offtopic | damianl
[04:27] <ubotu> damianl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:27] <scguy318> damianl: they never agreed to license it under GNU GPL, why should they abide?
[04:27] <gogeta> it has to use a 32 bit layer to run 32 bit apps
[04:27] <erstazi> erisco: got something
[04:28] <gogeta> hence performance loss
[04:28] <denmax> i was just wondering if we have some kinda device manager where we can enable and disable devices in ubuntu ?
[04:28] <erisco> erstazi, awesome :D what is it?
[04:28] <Ignominy> scguy, how do I modprobe the kernel for the modules?
[04:28] <sotec_prod> KStrings, yea, i read a review on multicore processors and you're right. most software isn't multicore capale yet
[04:28] <StarScream> hey guys, i know PPC isn't supported anymore but is there anyone that is actually running the gutsy port ?
[04:28] <aschaetter> scguy: gutsy identifies my video card as an "Intel Mobile 945GM/GSM, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
[04:28] <gogeta> erisco what you trying to do
[04:28] <Jordan_U> gogeta, Only because of the extra footprint of reduntant libraries
[04:28] <jrib> StarScream: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:28] <StarScream> jrib: cheers
[04:28] <scguy318> aschaetter: restricted isnt for you then, i really dunno, you should prob google
[04:28] <Jordan_U> gogeta, I wouldn't say that it is necessarily slower
[04:28] <erstazi> erisco: http://doc.gwos.org/doku.php/doc:office:virtualbox?s=sharing%20hard%20drive
[04:29] <scguy318> Ignominy: after you do the whole sudo sensors-detect thing
[04:29] <usr13> Unloading driver dissables device.
[04:29] <Ignominy> yup, that's done
[04:29] <gogeta> i knoe hiow to that with vmware
[04:29] <scguy318> Ignominy: it should have added the modules it found into etc/modules
[04:29] <erstazi> erisco: then locate "Sharing your hard drive" in the text
[04:29] <FireHazard17> what is a good live cd to format a drive to either ntfs?
[04:29] <sotec_prod> so a 64x2 amd processor and a 32bit Ubuntu install is definitely a win?
[04:29] <scguy318> Ignominy: since you haven't rebooted yet, just use the module names in that file
[04:29] <FireHazard17> .either
[04:29] <erstazi> erisco: that was a google search result, #3
[04:29] <scguy318> Ignominy: and do
[04:29] <erisco> erstazi, Error 403
[04:29] <FireHazard17> -either*
[04:29] <scguy318> Ignominy: sudo modprobe modulenamehere
[04:29] <d0s> has anyone downloaded ubunbtu feitsy and cannot find the compiz fusion settings manager?
[04:29] <erstazi> erisco: http://doc.gwos.org/doku.php/?do=search&id=sharing+hard+drive
[04:29] <Ignominy> ah, ok.
[04:29] <usr13>  denmax unload driver
[04:29] <aschaetter> scguy: i have no no avail. Do you think this is an x server problem or a graphics card problem?
[04:29] <scguy318> !gutsy | aschaetter
[04:29] <ubotu> aschaetter: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <gogeta> scguy you ned to install it
[04:29] <bluestreak_> system -> preferences
[04:29] <scguy318> aschaetter: i didnt notice you said gutsy
[04:29] <bluestreak_> look there
[04:30] <erisco> erstazi, oops, that is because I am using an invalid user agent :P it detected that I am not *really* googlebot
[04:30] <erstazi> erisco: then select the doc:office:virtualbox
[04:30] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U, i'm noticing the effects of nvidia not starting, and don't like it.  i'll try nvidia-glx
[04:30] <erstazi> erisco: ttsk tsk tsk, the user agent switcher extension eh?
[04:30] <scguy318> gogeta: our convo is muddled in this text :(
[04:30] <gogeta> lol
[04:30] <aschaetter> scguy: i get the same error in feisty and gutsy
[04:30] <erisco> erstazi, nah, just changed it in about:config
[04:30] <scguy318> gogeta: perhaps you were addressing someone else? i dont have much need for VMware, i know how to use :D
[04:30] <erstazi> erisco: try the user agent switcher, its smooth
[04:30] <gogeta> yea
[04:30] <scguy318> aschaetter: perhaps you should google around in forums
[04:31] <erisco> erstazi, I will have to look for that
[04:31] <cappicard> lol... looks like xdmcp from ubuntu server to vista laptop via wifi is slow as can be
[04:31] <erstazi> erisco: though I don't like too many extensions, only have a few enabled
[04:31] <gogeta> someone hear wanted to use a real disk
[04:31] <gogeta> you can in vmware easly
[04:31] <gogeta> just need to mod xp a bit
[04:31] <erstazi> gogeta: same in virtualbox
[04:31] <gogeta> make a diffrent hardware profile
[04:31] <gogeta> name it vm or something
[04:31] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U, ok, i installed it, how do i restart xwindows?
[04:31] <gogeta> then boot that profile whenever your using a vm soft
[04:31] <gogeta> easy
[04:32] <erisco> erstazi, that still isn't what I want though
[04:32] <KStrings> slimjimflim:  Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:32] <Troseph> slimjimflim: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:32] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, ctrl+alt+backspace , but unless you used Restricted Manager you will also need to run dpkg-reconfigure
[04:32] <erisco> erstazi, that is just being able to access real disks from my virtual box... I want my virtual box to USE a REAL disk
[04:32] <erstazi> erisco: with Ubuntu as the host and Windows as the guest?
[04:32] <mushroomjay> Can someone give me a download to openGL drivers for my Nvidia Ti4200?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, Or edit your Xorg.conf manually
[04:32] <FFighter> Could anyone suggest me a good FTP client for *nix/Ubuntu ?
[04:32] <Troseph> gftp
[04:32] <erisco> erstazi, I want my virtual box to BOOT from a REAL disk
[04:32] <Jordan_U> !ftp | FFighter
[04:32] <ubotu> FFighter: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:33] <erstazi> erisco: in that scenario, windows is the guest vm
[04:33] <erisco> erstazi, yes, I want windows to be the guest
[04:33] <erisco> erstazi, but I want windows on a bootable partition you see
[04:33] <Troseph> FFighter: Filezilla works in Ubuntu
[04:33] <Ignominy> scguy, that did the trick.  thanks a bunch!
[04:33] <scguy318> Ignominy: np
[04:34] <Jordan_U> erisco, What VM are you using?
[04:34] <erisco> Jordan_U, virtualbox or vmware... or whatever will work
[04:34] <scguy318> erisoco: my $0.02 USD, but i think VMware should be able to utilize a physical partition/disk
[04:35] <scguy318> *erisco
[04:35] <FFighter> Troseph, ffox plugin?
[04:35] <Stratos> Anyone knows, how Jack Rack works?
[04:35] <erisco> scguy318, I would think so too... but I cannot find how/where to look to find out how
[04:35] <Jordan_U> erisco, There are guides for both, I think it's easier with VMware ( though I have never done it myself )
[04:35] <denmax> usr13 - can i PM you ?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> erisco, Try #vmware
[04:35] <scguy318> erisco: you would just edit the VM config file I think, doesnt VMware Server have a GUI?
[04:35] <mushroomjay> Could someone give me a download to OpenGL drivers for my Nvidia Ti4200?
[04:35] <erisco> Jordan_U, #vmware is an idle channel atm
[04:35] <usr13>  denmax; yes
[04:35] <Hilikus> im reading that to mount a windows dir in linux i can use smbfs but theyre also saying vfs, which one should i use
[04:35] <scguy318> !nvidia | mushroomjay
[04:35] <ubotu> mushroomjay: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:36] <mushroomjay> Thanks.
[04:36] <scguy318> mushroomjay: dont use if your card ain't legacy tho ;)
[04:36] <erisco> scguy318, it does have a GUI. I had problems while trying to use a real disk though
[04:36] <Troseph> FFighter: fireFTP works for me.
[04:36] <scguy318> mushroomjay: IS legacy
[04:36] <mushroomjay> all right thank you
[04:36] <scguy318> mushroomjay: if your card is legacy, dont use the guard
[04:36] <un_dave> hey all. just had my first ever full ubuntu lockup. i want to work out what caused it, but checking the logs doesnt seem to show anything. anyone have any ideas?
[04:36] <scguy318> *guide zomg
[04:36] <Jordan_U> erisco, Hmm, there used to be a link in the topic for using physical partitions in #vmware
[04:36] <Troseph> FFighter: Firefox 2.0.0.7
[04:36] <scguy318> erisco: probably you should do a VMware install on actual partition, bringing native -> VM can be problematic
[04:37] <slimjimflim> Jordan_U, ok, i ran `dpg-reconfigure nvidia-glx` but ctrl-alt-backspace didn't do anything
[04:37] <scguy318> erisco: liek fresh VM, fresh physical, run Windows Setup on that VM
[04:37] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:37] <scguy318> Jordan_U: what does -phigh do, i never figured that out
[04:37] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, Then be sure to choose "nvidia" for the driver
[04:38] <erisco> scguy318, I haven't used vmware like that...
[04:38] <erisco> scguy318, I would be lost :P
[04:38] <Jordan_U> scguy318, Only asks high priority questions, there is also -pmedium for example
[04:38] <scguy318> Jordan_U: ah, didnt know that :)
[04:38] <erisco> scguy318, everything works up till vmware-server wants to create some file to keep track of the disk. However, regardless of where I try to save the file vmware complains it does not have permissions to do so
[04:38] <erisco> scguy318, I even started vmware as root and it won't work
[04:39] <macgruber> hi folks, someone here have a creative zen vision:m ?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> scguy318, I always read it as if my dad was using it like a curse word ( fye :)
[04:39] <erisco> scguy318, it is calling this file the "disk file"
[04:39] <scguy318> Jordan_U: lol
[04:39] <scguy318> erisco: mm, dunno :(, my VMware experience has been Windows so far
[04:39] <scguy318> erisco: havent had the need to use it on Linux
[04:39] <evilxhwnd> erisco, are you talking about this? http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[04:39] <a-stray-cat> can anyone help me in getting a usb mic to work with wine in progs like ventrilo?
[04:39] <novato_br> what is the newest version about xchat?
[04:40] <novato_br> is it: XChat 2.8.2 ?
[04:40] <scguy318> a-stray-cat: you probably want to change audio driver in winecfg to ALSA, and read the Wine AppDb guide for vent
[04:40] <Jordan_U> erisco, Where is it trying to save it?
[04:40] <Jordan_U> erisco, Do you have enough free space?
[04:40] <slimjimflim> i got to the resolution selection,but when i hit ok, i got "warning: overwriting possibly customized configuration", jordan_u
[04:40] <scguy318> novato_br: prob, not sure if thats repo latest
[04:41] <scguy318> novato_br: *probably
[04:41] <erisco> Jordan_U, I am trying to save it anywhere... no location will work. I have plenty of free space
[04:41] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, That is normal, it makes a backup of your old config
[04:41] <novato_br> scguy318, i want the newest version about xchat
[04:41] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me?
[04:41] <erisco> evilxhwnd, so that uses vmware-player instead of vmware-server... I am unsure of the differences
[04:41] <alcaponage> Can I reset my ubuntu settings?
[04:41] <Pelo> alcaponage, what with ?
[04:41] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Yes
[04:41] <alcaponage> Can you tell me how?
[04:42] <jetscreamer> just mv stuff in ~
[04:42] <slimjimflim> jordan_u, ok, but why can't i select nvidia, and why dosen't ctrl-alt-backspace work?
[04:42] <Pelo> alcaponage,  be a little more precise , what did you screw up ?
[04:42] <alcaponage> I was trying to install beryl
[04:42] <scguy318> novato_br: the repos prob have old version, you may have to build from source :(
[04:42] <alcaponage> and now i keep getting errors
[04:42] <scguy318> novato_br: its advisable to checkinstall a tarball
[04:42] <scguy318> !checkinstall | novato_br
[04:42] <ubotu> novato_br: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:42] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, For user specific settings just delete the corresponding ~/. files
[04:42] <alcaponage> "failed to fetch errors"
[04:42] <novato_br> without problem, scguy318
[04:42] <scguy318> !make | novato_br
[04:42] <ubotu> novato_br: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:42] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Like for firefox the settings are stored in ~/.firefox
[04:42] <Pelo> alcaponage,  what are you doing then you get that error ?
[04:42] <novato_br> i can compile the source
[04:43] <alcaponage> i am trying to install compiz
[04:43] <novato_br> i don't have afraid
[04:43] <scguy318> slimjimflim: are you at Terminal or wut?
[04:43] <evilxhwnd> erisco, vmware player lets you run an existing virtual machine, server lets you make the virtual machines. you should be able to use server in place of player for that tutorial. i did it with vmware workstation.
[04:43] <Pelo> alcaponage, ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:43] <scguy318> slimjimflim: cuz if theres no X running, you obviously cant kill it ;)
[04:43] <slimjimflim> scguy318, yes
[04:43] <ChaosMachine> Why does my Adept package manager keep starting in read only mode because it says package manager is probably busy? I've rebooted my machine and its still busy..
[04:43] <damianl_> is there some sort of equaliser for gstreamer that anyone knows of?
[04:43] <scguy318> slimjimflim: no X, you have to restart gdm
[04:43] <damianl_> or an eq for alsa?
[04:43] <scguy318> slimjimflim: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills X if X is RUNNING ;)
[04:43] <gregorovius> novato_br, have you tried asking in the brazilian channel?
[04:43] <greenmanspirit> anyone here use kvm with windows on a widescreen monitor and know how to get windows to have a widescreen resolution
[04:43] <slimjimflim> scguy318, what's the command to restart it, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[04:44] <novato_br> yep, gregorovius
[04:44] <scguy318> slimjimflim: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:44] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, Yup
[04:44] <novato_br> they are old versions about xchat
[04:44] <damianl_> is there some sort of equaliser for gstreamer that anyone knows of?
[04:44] <novato_br> i want the new options on xchat
[04:45] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, You may need to kill gdm first manually though ( I sometimes get a bug where gdm doesn't get shut down properly before restarting )
[04:45] <slimjimflim> ok
[04:45] <gregorovius> novato_br, have you tried installing the gutsy package? it might work
[04:46] <Jordan_U> novato_br, Don't install the Gutsy package
[04:46] <novato_br> not yet, gregorovius
[04:46] <gregorovius> why not, Jordan_U ?
[04:46] <novato_br> when it's go out, i will take it
[04:46] <scguy318> grenorovious: i imagine it would obviously depend on other Gutsy packages
[04:46] <gregorovius> sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
[04:47] <Jordan_U> novato_br, It is not a good idea to use packages from other versions, you could grab the feisty source package and recompile it for Feisty though ( not as hard as it sounds )
[04:47] <novato_br> oktanouc, Jordan_U
[04:47] <Mixx> what's the best way to see the list of attached hard drives & their sizes, ,makes models, etc?  trying to come up with a better way to identify a drive than mounting and browsing it
[04:47] <gregorovius> well, gutsy's xchat doesn't work in feisty
[04:48] <scguy318> Mixx: sudo fdisk -l lists partitions
[04:48] <jetscreamer> no need for sudo on that one iirc
[04:48] <Mixx> scguy318 that's perfect, thank you
[04:48] <nonewmsgs> gtkpod isnt working for me so what should i use for adding music to my ipod
[04:48] <gregorovius> novato_br, you can compile from source or wait about a month til gutsy comes out
[04:48] <jetscreamer> would that be xchat-gnome btw
[04:48] <jetscreamer> which blows
[04:49] <novato_br> noflex, gregorovius , i can't wait, i love update, newest things
[04:49] <novato_br> i need it
[04:49] <gregorovius> compile it from source then
[04:49] <Jordan_U> novato_br, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[04:49] <novato_br> i will install when release the gusty
[04:49] <slimjimflim> jordan_u, scguy318, i got a screen that said that :0 was already in use
[04:49] <novato_br> ok. gregorovius
[04:49] <a-stray-cat> when i launch winecfg i get ":ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on AK5370          , disabling mixer" in the terminal
[04:49] <Jordan_U> novato_br, See 6.13 and 6.14
[04:49] <a-stray-cat> the AK5370 is my mic :/
[04:49] <novato_br> ok., Jordan_U
[04:50] <co_arab_six_A_si> kk
[04:50] <a-stray-cat> anyone have any ideas how to fix that?
[04:50] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, run "sudo killall X" and possibly "sudo killall gdm"
[04:50] <slimjimflim> killall, sounds like a nifty command
[04:51] <pike__> pkill killall kill xkill etc
[04:51] <egd-> hi, i tried to burn an ubuntu iso on a dvd, it never booted from cd
[04:51] <pike__> xkill is most fun. its like you against the program
[04:52] <Jordan_U> egd-, And?
[04:52] <egd-> why?
[04:52] <egd-> do i need a cd-r?
[04:52] <egd-> not dvd
[04:52] <pike__> egd-: did it give you an error or did it just boot to hd normally?
[04:52] <egd-> boot to hd. i checked boot order
[04:53] <Jordan_U> egd-, Did you burn the image as a file on the DVD or did you burn from the image?
[04:53] <usr13> egd-: Was it DVD iso or a CD iso?
[04:54] <pillowpants> is there a channel for ubuntu server edition?
[04:54] <Flannel> pillowpants: this is it
[04:54] <tech0007> hi everyone
[04:54] <egd-> I mounted this file: ubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso to my daemon tools program (winxp). then i drag-dropped the files and started to burn
[04:54] <pillowpants> Flannel : ah, i see
[04:54] <usr13> pillowpants: what is your question?
[04:55] <pillowpants> im having some trouble getting fluxbox to load up
[04:55] <pillowpants> its saying it cant connect to xserver
[04:55] <Flannel> egd-: If you look at the CD in windows, what do you see? A whole bunch of files? or the .iso file?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> egd-, You need to actually use a program that can burn iso's
[04:55] <Flannel> pillowpants: do you have xserver-xorg installed?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> Flannel, Sounds like he copied the files form the iso, not what most people do where they just copy the iso file to a CD, it still won't work
[04:56] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work w/ ubuntu?
[04:56] <pillowpants> i assumed it installed by the dependency, but i didnt check
[04:56] <pillowpants> i guess ill do that
[04:56] <Flannel> Jordan_U: a CD image should work on DVD media
[04:56] <Jordan_U> egd-, As well as the files the iso also defines a bootloader which is needed to make it bootable
[04:56] <usr13> Jordan_U: What your actually saying is that he made an iso image of an iso image.
[04:56] <robert98374> hello everyone
[04:56] <Flannel> pillowpants: It's because technically it's not a prereq, you can have an Xserver on a different computer you're using.
[04:57] <tarelerulz> I have an usb soundcard/ mic and headset hook up
[04:57] <Jordan_U> Flannel, He mounted the CD, copied the files to a burn folder then burned it, so it won't include isolinux ( the bootloader )
[04:57] <robert98374> For some reason my computer doesn't like the default terminal emulator,any one have any reccomendations for another one?
[04:57] <pillowpants> Flannel : yeah, i just looked, im getting it installed
[04:57] <pillowpants> silly of me to assume
[04:57] <Jordan_U> egd-, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:57] <tarelerulz> It seem like flash player and vlc don't use my usb sound card and I would love to know how to make them use it.
[04:58] <usr13> pillowpants: Why would you install X on a server?
[04:58] <FunnyLookinHat> How do I adjust the font color used in my main bar in Gnome? (i.e. where it says Applications, Places, System and even the Time & Date on sys tray)?
[04:58] <greenmanspirit> anyone here use kvm with windows on a widescreen monitor and know how to get windows to have a widescreen resolution
[04:58] <slimjimflim> it looks like i have 1.0.7814, but i have the module for 1.0.9631, jordan_u
[04:58] <gregorovius> FunnyLookinHat, the font color depends on the system theme
[04:58] <usr13> greenmanspirit: When you say "windows"  do you mean  MS Windows?
[04:58] <robert98374> what's a good console emulator for xubuntu?
[04:58] <gregorovius> you can change the whole theme, changing just the font is more complicated
[04:59] <pillowpants> usr13: so i can use firefox and find out how to use ubuntu server, heh
[04:59] <FunnyLookinHat> gregorovius, Ah ok, so I can only do it through the themes manager.   Thanks man
[04:59] <greenmanspirit> usr13: yes, windows xp
[04:59] <gregorovius> np
[04:59] <Anthology> lol
[04:59] <DWonderly> greenmanspirit your Vid cad must support. IF it does then use the utility from that to output widescreen
[04:59] <jetscreamer> you might ask in ##windows , greenmanspirit
[04:59] <pillowpants> im going to load up an nfs fileserver
[04:59] <pillowpants> ive never done that from console
[04:59] <slimjimflim> i still get the error about the tty it wants to use being available
[04:59] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, That shouldn't be possible if you are using the apt package, maybe you got far enough in the nvidia installer for it to make the module
[05:00] <usr13>  pillowpants: I don't think the browser will help..
[05:00] <Jordan_U> slimjimflim, You tried "sudo killall X" ?
[05:00] <Curs0r> I'm having trouble with grub under a chroot http://rafb.net/p/XGVJp495.html can anyone help with that?
[05:00] <slimjimflim> yea
[05:00] <greenmanspirit> when i lauch windows, qemu/kvm just call my graphics card some generic name that only deals with 4:3 resolutions
[05:00] <pillowpants> usr13: just to check online
[05:00] <slimjimflim> but i looked in the error log, and it said i had the wrong version installed
[05:00] <usr13>  pillowpants:  apt-get install lynx
[05:01] <gregorovius> grub under chroot? i might be ignorant, but why?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> Curs0r, Do you have /proc and /dev mounted in the chroot environment?
[05:01] <slimjimflim> so i think i'll try to focus on uninstalling the nvidia package before anything else
[05:01] <pillowpants> is there a man page for ubuntu server?
[05:01] <Curs0r> Jordan_U, I have /proc and /sys mounted
[05:01] <pillowpants> while im on it
[05:01] <pillowpants> as in...to let me know how to setup an nfs fileserver
[05:01] <Flannel> pillowpants: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/
[05:02] <nonewmsgs> if i press synchronize on banshee will it delete a song on my ipod if it doesnt see it in the other libarary?
[05:02] <pillowpants> Flannel : thanks
[05:02] <usr13> pillowpants: lynx http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html
[05:02] <robert98374> For some reason my computer doesn't like the default terminal emulator,any one have any reccomendations for another one?
[05:02] <Avt3kk> sudo apt-get install java....????
[05:02] <mlalkaka> I'm trying to use NetworkManager on Xubuntu. The NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher programs are running as root, and nm-applet is running as a normal user. I've enabled roaming mode using network-admin on the wireless card. But nm-applet does not show any available networks. However, I know there is an available network because if I use network-admin to manually connect to one (by manually typing in the essid, wep code, e
[05:02] <mlalkaka> tc). Can anyone help me solve this problem?
[05:02] <Curs0r> Jordan_U, I mounted /dev but with the same results
[05:02] <egd-> Jordan_U, that guide, when i follow it. i get a question from infrarecorder program if i want to record the disc image to a dvd media
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Curs0r, Are you sure that /boot is (hd0,0) ?
[05:03] <egd-> Jordan_U, i only have dvds, no cds
[05:03] <Curs0r> Jordan_U, yes I am
[05:03] <Jordan_U> egd-, The CD image will work on DVD's or CDs
[05:03] <pike__> mlalkaka: thats alot of work.. cli probably be easier :)
[05:03] <kaChr> hello, does any1 have a min?
[05:04] <gregorovius> !ask | kaChr
[05:04] <ubotu> kaChr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:04] <kaChr> lol ok so i need basic dir cmds... like how do i check what i have on the disk and how do i delete it?
[05:04] <pike__> !cli | kaChr
[05:04] <ubotu> kaChr: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:05] <gogeta> lol
[05:05] <Curs0r> how odd, it just worked...
[05:05] <pike__> kaChr: rm to remove ls to list contents of directory
[05:05] <gogeta> kachr
[05:05] <robert98374> For some reason my computer doesn't like the default terminal emulator,any one have any reccomendations for another one?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Curs0r, I'm just that good ;)
[05:05] <gogeta> cd change dir
[05:05] <gogeta> ls list
[05:05] <kaChr> o ok
[05:05] <gogeta> rm delete
[05:05] <kaChr> thanks
[05:05] <Curs0r> Testing
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> fortune | cowsay      for a good time. :)
[05:05] <gogeta> mv cope
[05:05] <pike__> kaChr: use -r  usually for recursive if you need to delete dir for instance that has files in it youd rm -r dir
[05:05] <gogeta> mv move
[05:06] <gogeta> cp copy past
[05:06] <kaChr> o ok thats good to know
[05:06] <slimjimflim> cd .. move up on3 level
[05:06] <Avt3kk> what code do I type to install java in ubuntu????
[05:06] <Avt3kk> for firefox also
[05:06] <gogeta> cd .. move up
[05:06] <scguy318> Avt3kk: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[05:07] <Avt3kk> ty ty ty :D
[05:07] <gogeta> or you can just use the gui
[05:07] <gogeta> lol
[05:07] <d3visi0n> or aptitude
[05:07] <kaChr> man thanks
[05:07] <gogeta> you can install mc
[05:07] <Coole^> t
[05:07] <scguy318> slimjimflim: how did you get to term? Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[05:08] <gogeta> its a text gui
[05:08] <scguy318> slimjimflim: or did you kill it via gdm stop?
[05:08] <gogeta> midnight commander
[05:08] <Avt3kk> cant find package for java
[05:08] <gogeta> lets you do all that from the console
[05:08] <d3visi0n> Avt3kk: apt-get update
[05:08] <gogeta> without the needs for all the commands
[05:08] <Avt3kk> ook
[05:08] <scguy318> Avt3kk: check that all repos are enabled
[05:08] <robert98374> what's a good terminal?
[05:08] <slimjimflim> scguy318, yea f2 though
[05:08] <gogeta> lol terms are terms
[05:09] <gogeta> there all the same
[05:09] <usr13> Avt3kk: What are you looking for?
[05:09] <d3visi0n> usr13: java
[05:09] <scguy318> slimjimflim: then X is still running...
[05:09] <fiXXXerMet> How can I mount my mp3 player as read-write?  It's a sansa e260r.   mount shows /dev/sdd1 on /media/Sansa e260R type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)
[05:09] <d3visi0n> jre rather
[05:09] <scguy318> slimjimflim: if you just switched it and didn't kill gdm
[05:09] <Avt3kk> E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[05:09] <slimjimflim> scguy318, i just  rebooted, so idk
[05:09] <gogeta> it should be aruldy
[05:09] <scguy318> Avt3kk: are your universe/multiverse repos enabled?
[05:09] <usr13> d3visi0n: Java plugin for browser ? or what?
[05:09] <Avt3kk> umm
[05:09] <d3visi0n> both i'd imagine usr13, im not looking for it
[05:10] <awake> anyone can help me?
[05:10] <scguy318> Avt3kk: System -> Administration -> Software Sources, make sure all checked
[05:10] <jetscreamer>  auto,users,noexec,ro,umask=022,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0
[05:10] <scguy318> Avt3kk: then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install .......
[05:10] <usr13> Avt3kk: apt-cache search sun-java6
[05:10] <jetscreamer> try that, vfat rw dude
[05:10] <Jordan_U> awake, You'll never know if you don't ask your question :)
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> Thanks jetscreamer
[05:10] <gogeta> it should be rw by defult
[05:10] <scguy318> awake: yes and no awake
[05:10] <scguy318> awake: :P
[05:10] <fiXXXerMet> I thought so
[05:10] <gogeta> mine is
[05:10] <awake> .
[05:10] <jetscreamer> fiXXXerMet: you might lose the nls=
[05:11] <awake> scguy318: http://pastebin.com/mcc15c97 please check,
[05:11] <awake> 3 lines only :P
[05:11] <pillowpants> Flannel : its still giving me the same complaint
[05:11] <robert98374> so no recommendations ?
[05:11] <pillowpants> Flannel : even though i just had xserver-xorg installed
[05:11] <Jordan_U> pillowpants, What error? What are you trying to do?
[05:11] <usr13> Avt3kk: sun-java6-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment ?
[05:11] <pillowpants> get fluxbox to run
[05:12] <pillowpants> im on ubuntu server edition, dapper
[05:12] <scguy318> awake: well, I usually get assert errors sometimes when I run GUI apps from term, but what issue are you encountering exactly?
[05:12] <scguy318> usr13: prob sun-java6-jre tbh
[05:12] <scguy318> usr13: its in my repo, and its what he/she prob wants
[05:12] <tsukasa> im trying to compile something and it says i dont have gtk+ installed... what package do i need
[05:12] <Jordan_U> pillowpants, How are you starting it? From an xterm or startx script?
[05:12] <gogeta> scguy you can always use the framebuffer for gui apps
[05:12] <gogeta> those that suport it
[05:12] <pillowpants> just typing fluxbox
[05:12] <usr13> pillowpants: why not just use a text based browser?  (Much easier)
[05:12] <awake> scguy318: I cant start my gnome session, y got back to login again. Only failsafe session works
[05:12] <Jordan_U> pillowpants, you need to start X first
[05:13] <pillowpants> usr13: i didnt know there was such a thing
[05:13] <rico> hey guys. anyone familiar with this error?
[05:13] <rico>  Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
[05:13] <gogeta> LOL
[05:13] <Jordan_U> pillowpants, Try xinit or startx
[05:13] <pillowpants> whats a good text based browser
[05:13] <gogeta> didnt i just say mc a wile ago
[05:13] <usr13> pillowpants: lynx
[05:13] <Curs0r> Jordan_U, that ended up not working
[05:13] <gogeta> lynx
[05:13] <pillowpants> oh, i see
[05:13] <pillowpants> ill give it a go
[05:13] <usr13> pillowpants: sudo apt-get install lynx
[05:13] <gogeta> thers even lynx gui
[05:13] <gogeta> lynx -g
[05:13] <scguy318> tsukasa: libgtk+2.0-lib or w/e, search Synaptic
[05:13] <a-stray-cat> okay, my mic works, but when wine starts up any prog it says: ALSA_MixerInit No master control found on AK5370
[05:13] <usr13> pillowpants: lynx http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html
[05:13] <scguy318> tsukasa: *dev
[05:13] <gogeta> gives ya pics
[05:13] <awake> pillowpants: links its better in my opinion
[05:13] <a-stray-cat> the AK5370 only has a microphone control in alsa
[05:13] <gogeta> links
[05:13] <gogeta> lol
[05:14] <awake> try it .
[05:14] <gogeta> it was one of them
[05:14] <fiXXXerMet> jetscreamer: I have /dev/sde1       /media/sansa    vfat    auto,users,noexec,ro,umask=022,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 in my /etc/fstab now and I'm getting "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde" when I mount -a
[05:14] <Curs0r> Jordan_U, this command works install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+17 but nothing after that
[05:14] <pillowpants> heh, lynx wasnt installed
[05:14] <pillowpants> ive suddenly grown more fond of the console
[05:14] <gogeta> it whont give you java or flashbut it does have a gui mode
[05:14] <awake> scguy318: Any idea?
[05:14] <usr13> pillowpants: Why didn't lynx install?
[05:15] <usr13> pillowpants: What error did you get?
[05:16] <rabbitnightmare> hello all
[05:16] <dfcarney> I'm trying to set up proftpd to run an FTP server.  I can connect locally, but when I connect remotely I'm met with the following error after logging in: "bind: address already in use".  Any ideas?
[05:16] <fiXXXerMet> dfcarney: Something else must be bound to port 21
[05:16] <rabbitnightmare> I am using pclinuxos and it really isnt all I want does anyone know if ubuntu is better from personal experience?
[05:16] <pillowpants> usr13: no error, im just saying lynx wasnt installed by default
[05:17] <usr13> pillowpants: Oh, ok
[05:17] <slimjimflim> dfcarney, did you have your registrar redirect your domain to your static ip?
[05:17] <awake> sombody else can help me?
[05:17] <usr13> awake: What is your question?
[05:17] <pillowpants> rabbitnightmare : ubuntu has its faults, but i like it over pclinuxos
[05:17] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: i'm using a dynamic IP address right now, but that shouldn't matter.  like i said, i can connect to my server and log in.  it's only after i login that i get that error.
[05:18] <Jordan_U> rabbitnightmare, Betteer is subjective
[05:18] <gregorovius> awake, does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say anything special?
[05:18] <pillowpants> rabbitnightmare : i felt it didnt give me enough control over the system
[05:18] <Jordan_U> rabbitnightmare, So is better :)
[05:18] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: Linux is linux, the differences are in package management / package managers and configurations of individual applications.
[05:18] <pillowpants> rabbitnightmare : but to each is own
[05:18] <rabbitnightmare> my main problem is it doesnt support gnome and they refuse to support it at all and I wanted gnome
[05:18] <awake> usr13: http://pastebin.com/mcc15c97 I get that error when i try to login into my gnome session. Only failsafe mode works
[05:19] <sensae> #alsa is rather dead, would anyone here be able to give me help getting my sound working? I know which module I need but a modinfo gives an error
[05:19] <awake> gregorovius: Nothing extrange i thinks
[05:19] <slimjimflim> dfcarney, is that all the output you  get when you log in?
[05:19] <awake> *think
[05:19] <rabbitnightmare> and you answered me they refused to answer any real questions and refused to admit the os had faults it just kept dieing on me
[05:19] <scguy318> sensae: what's the error? and have you tried modprobing it?
[05:19] <gregorovius> awake, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/121119
[05:20] <rabbitnightmare> ty so much the community here seems much wider and well more responsive
[05:20] <rabbitnightmare> that made the decision for me
[05:20] <scguy318> rabbitnightmare: i looked at their page, and their PCLinuxOS magazine was liek Ubuntu is evill!!1!!1
[05:20] <scguy318> rabbitnightmare: sounded propagandish, and if they have to do that, they must not be so good
[05:20] <rabbitnightmare> maybe ubuntu ste
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Gee.. PClinuxOS - one distro that ive NEVER been able to get to work right
[05:20] <rabbitnightmare> it dies like everyday
[05:20] <sensae> scguy318: The error is cannot find module, and I get the same error with modprobe. I may be going about this the wrong way
[05:21] <Diablo-D3> magz0r: narf.
[05:21] <rabbitnightmare> and there is no source code so ./configure breaks things
[05:21] <awake> gregorovius: Im going to try the empty file "fix"
[05:21] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: I get a "230 User ... logged in".  Typing something like "ls", I get an error which reads "500 Illegal PORT command", followed by "ftp: bind: Address already in use"
[05:21] <gregorovius> try and tell us if it worked
[05:21] <magz0r> herro Diablo-D3
[05:21] <BaD_CrC> is there a wiki or howto somewhere that explains all the options in the xorg.conf file so i can tweak it out?
[05:21] <Diablo-D3> BaD_CrC: no, and there shouldnt be either
[05:21] <rabbitnightmare> awesome
[05:21] <rabbitnightmare> i like it here i might stay a while
[05:21] <sensae> scguy318: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel <-- that's my sound card and the appropriate module I need, but I'm not sure how to go about getting ALSA working
[05:21] <kaChr> with what cmd do i check the pid ?\
[05:21] <rabbitnightmare> bbl switching distros
[05:22] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: but it works if i log in via localhost (as opposed to from an external server)
[05:22] <gregorovius> kaChr, pidof
[05:22] <fiXXXerMet> jetscreamer: OK - I mounted the device with those options (mount -t vfat -O auto,users,noexec,ro,umask=022,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 /dev/sde1 /media/sansa) and mount says it's mouted as vfat (rw), but I'm still getting mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Read-only file system
[05:22] <kaChr> what did i do with pidof?
[05:22] <kaChr> cuz i typed it and it didnt show me anything
[05:22] <NeowIkkin> ok.... so whats the real diffrence between ubuntu desktop version and server version
[05:22] <NeowIkkin> anyone can help?
[05:23] <gregorovius> pidof <name_of_running_prog>
[05:23] <LucianIndy> fiXXXerMet: what are you trying to mount
[05:23] <LucianIndy> usb drive?
[05:23] <fiXXXerMet> LucianIndy: My Sansa e260R (mp3 player)
[05:23] <mlalkaka> I'm trying to use NetworkManager on Xubuntu. The NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher programs are running as root, and nm-applet is running as a normal user. I've enabled roaming mode using network-admin on the wireless card. But nm-applet does not show any available networks. However, I know there is an available network because if I use network-admin to manually connect to one (by manually typing in the essid, wep code, e
[05:23] <mlalkaka> tc). Can anyone help me solve this problem?
[05:23] <NeowIkkin> ?
[05:23] <slimjimflim> dfcarney, it sounds like youre getting redirected, but that when you use 'ls' or whatever other command, the fact that you originally called a different domain than you're connected to is messing it up.  i've had the same sort of issue w/ httpd, so i went to my registrar's configuration and not only enabled redirection, but also domain masking. that might help you
[05:24] <LucianIndy> oh, i know nothing about that that brand
[05:24] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: hmmm...thanks.  i'll look into that.
[05:24] <NeowIkkin> anyone can help?
[05:24] <NeowIkkin> ok.... so whats the real diffrence between ubuntu desktop version and server version
[05:24] <slimjimflim> dfcarney, and you should also use dyndns.com or a similar site to turn your dynamic ip into a static one
[05:24] <pillowpants> usr13 : thanks for the help, im going in a better direction now
[05:24] <LucianIndy> fiXXXerMet: its not ntfs is it
[05:24] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: already do.
[05:25] <slimjimflim> hmm
[05:25] <slimjimflim> well, good luck w/ that it took about 24 hours for my name to get circulated through all the dns servers
[05:25] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: different kernel, stripped down packages
[05:25] <slimjimflim> dfcarney ^^
[05:25] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: oh, the name already resolves...that works perfectly
[05:26] <scguy318> !hda
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: it's just that ftp doesn't work
[05:26] <scguy318> sensae: i think we have a guide to HDA Intel in the wiki
[05:26] <awake> gregorovius: It didint work :(
[05:26] <NeowIkkin> so if i want an OS more then just browsing and email and such. should i go for the server version?
[05:26] <kaChr> how do i install and ftp on a ubuntu server
[05:26] <sensae> Does anyone else know anything about ALSA and getting a matrix module working?
[05:26] <sensae> scguy318: Sorry, I didn't see your post
[05:26] <sensae> I'll take a look
[05:26] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: thanks for your help.  i'll poke around with it some more.
[05:26] <slimjimflim> dfcarney idk then, maybe #proftp
[05:26] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: good idea
[05:27] <Hilikus> is there a way to specify in fstab to mount a partition only if it is available? its a network partition and i dont want to get errors in case the server is down
[05:27] <scguy318> sensae: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  for now
[05:27] <dfcarney> slimjimflim: later.  thanks.
[05:27] <scguy318> sensae: lemme find the one about the Intel
[05:27] <slimjimflim> dfcarney np
[05:27] <weltschmerz> i have no sound on my thinkpad T60, even though it seems to be successfully playing.  i just installed ubuntu on it a few weeks ago.  this happened once and then went away when i fiddled with the volume buttons.  but now nothing seems to help.
[05:27] <sensae> scguy: I found it, talking about this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:27] <NeowIkkin> so if i want an OS more then just browsing and email and such. should i go for the server version?
[05:28] <scguy318> yep
[05:28] <weltschmerz> also, my normal system (this one) won't hibernate anymore.  when it resumes it just boots from scratch.
[05:28] <Avt3kk> how do I install mplayer in ubuntu?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> NeowIkkin the desktop version can do   most of that..  :)
[05:28] <weltschmerz> just started happening.
[05:28] <Avt3kk> gives me some error
[05:28] <gregorovius> sorry, awake, i'm out of ideas
[05:28] <weltschmerz> Avt3kk sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[05:28] <Avt3kk> about packages
[05:28] <sensae> lol I started with the server version, then installed xubuntu, then moved to ubuntu.
[05:28] <NeowIkkin> all i needed. thanks
[05:28] <usr13> NeowIkkin: if i want an OS more then just browsing and email and  such. should i go for the server version?
[05:28] <usr13> NeowIkkin: if you want an OS more then just browsing and email and  such. should you should NOT go for the server version?
[05:29] <scguy318> usr13: like...hosting?
[05:29] <Avt3kk> package mplayer isnt available???
[05:29] <sensae> Right now I have the perfect setup for slowly trying to move over from Windows
[05:29] <pillowpants> does anyone know a good text based AIM client?
[05:29] <usr13>  scguy318:  exactly what do you want to do?
[05:29] <Flannel> pillowpants: centericq
[05:29] <slimjimflim> sensae, what's holding you back from breaking windows ;)
[05:29] <sensae> slimjimflim: games
[05:29] <Avt3kk> Weltschmerz what should I do pachage mplayer isnt available?
[05:29] <usr13>  scguy318:  Are you wanting to set up a webserver?
[05:30] <awake> gregorovius: How do i apply this fix http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=90994&action=view ?
[05:30] <scguy318> usr13: no
[05:30] <Shadow6363> how would I go about allowing a user to login w/o a password but not autologon on boot?
[05:30] <sensae> slimjimflim: But I'm using two monitors, with synergy so it acts like a dual monitor setup.
[05:30] <slimjimflim> sensae, i recently got steam working on wine, but w/ no opengl support [20 fps avg] 
[05:30] <scguy318> usr13: i think I accidentally directed towards the responder, sry :)
[05:30] <usr13> Shadow6363: Just use no password.
[05:30] <usr13> Shadow6363: But it's not good to do that.
[05:30] <weltschmerz> dear god!  i just booted up my laptop, and sound is mysteriously working again.
[05:30] <scguy318> slimjimflim: on Wine, its DX -> libs -> OpenGL
[05:30] <sensae> slimjimflim: Yeah.. when it comes to playing games I don't feel like messing with stuff like wine to get it to work. I just don't keep anything important on the windows system
[05:30] <Avt3kk> guys?
[05:30] <weltschmerz> it wasn't working the last several times i used it.
[05:30] <weltschmerz> UGH!!!
[05:30] <jetscreamer> fiXXXerMet: so does id say you are 1000 ?
[05:30] <Shadow6363> usr13: when creating the user, it wont let me use no password
[05:30] <Avt3kk> package mplayer isnt available
[05:31] <scguy318> slimjimflim: have you peeked at AppDb?
[05:31] <Marfi> hey yall, my applications have disapeared. i can see the button, but everything under it is not there. anyone know how to recover it?
[05:31] <scguy318> Avt3kk: all repos enabled?
[05:31] <usr13>  Shadow6363:  passwd <usernamehere>
[05:31] <Avt3kk> yes in synaptic
[05:31] <Shadow6363> usr13: thanks, shoudl have known that myself
[05:31] <usr13> Shadow6363: But why do you need to do that?
[05:31] <scguy318> Avt3kk: weird, it shows up for me, have you searched in Synaptic?
[05:31] <Avt3kk> no
[05:32] <slimjimflim> scguy318, i'll keep that in mind (or in .txt) until i have a gui again
[05:32] <scguy318> sensae: yeah, Wine has a long way to go, through it's made very good strides, and I've gotten some games to run better on Linux
[05:32] <deviantintegral> i have a server which seems to be kernel panicking on me. What's the best way to ensure that the panic is somehow logged?
[05:32] <Shadow6363> usr13: mother xdmcp's onto this computer but cant seem to remember any passwords
[05:32] <Shadow6363> usr13: i dont intend on it being permanent, just a one week solution
[05:32] <fiXXXerMet> jetscreamer: It's weird.  I can write to the device when I mount it in command line, but if I let ubuntu do it automatically, or if I open the device with nautilus, after mounting it on the command line, it goes read-only
[05:33] <usr13>  Shadow6363: Use an easy one, like 1234 or asdf
[05:33] <NeowIkkin> ok
[05:33] <usr13> Shadow6363: And put sticky note on monitor.
[05:33] <Avt3kk> this is the error guys:::: http://pastebin.org/3819
[05:33] <jetscreamer> fiXXXerMet: try mounting it somewhere other than under /media ... like /mnt
[05:33] <scguy318> deviantintegral: i think the kernel should dump to file usually
[05:33] <Shadow6363> usr13: passwd <username> still forced a password so yeah, im doing what i used to do and putting a sticky up
[05:33] <fiXXXerMet> ok
[05:33] <Avt3kk> I installed VLC does that matter?
[05:33] <Avt3kk> after I uninstalled totem
[05:33] <jetscreamer> fiXXXerMet: i 'think' that will stop all the automount gnome stuff
[05:33] <NeowIkkin> this may sound really silly, but. i understood the server version is alot more package filled. yet the desktop edition is 200 MB's bigger
[05:34] <NeowIkkin> have i missed something?
[05:34] <usr13> Shadow6363: Computer users need to learn to use and keep up with passwords
[05:34] <deviantintegral> scguy318: what file? I thought it just did the screen as it couldn't guarentee that the write didn't corrupt something
[05:34] <scguy318> Avt3kk: you have any broken packages?
[05:34] <usr13> Shadow6363: It's not THAT hard.
[05:34] <jetscreamer> i think it monitors /media kind of things
[05:34] <scguy318> deviantintegral: im not sure, unfortunately, no expert on the kernel :(
[05:34] <Avt3kk> scguy I dunno how I find out
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> NeowIkkin i dont know where ya heard that at.. but it dosent make much sence.
[05:34] <Shadow6363> usr13: i know
[05:34] <scguy318> Avt3kk: in Synaptic, press Broken Packages
[05:34] <usr13> Shadow6363: You can blank it out in /etc/shadow
[05:34] <Roffelkhoptre> Hey guys, I got a question if anyone is okay with helping me out
[05:34] <NeowIkkin> Dr_Willis: heard what?
[05:34] <rockets> !ask | Roffelkhoptre
[05:34] <ubotu> Roffelkhoptre: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:34] <usr13> Shadow6363: just remove all between first : and second :
[05:34] <deviantintegral> scguy318: apparently lcrash can dump it to swap, but there is no binary module/kernel in apt and I really don't want to have to compile a custom kernel
[05:35] <Roffelkhoptre> ok, thanks
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> NeowIkkin the desktop install has X and a lot of other stuff...
[05:35] <usr13> But using no password is a bad idea.
[05:35] <sensae> scguy318: would you consider it a good or bad idea to use the alsa rc?
[05:35] <Shadow6363> usr13: just adding -d to passwd does it, i think ill just do the sticky anyways
[05:35] <Avt3kk> no broken
[05:35] <Roffelkhoptre> I want to install my Nvidia card, and so I got the package from the website. However, I just started using Ubuntu today, and don't know how to install it.
[05:35] <FFighter> hello folks
[05:35] <FFighter> I'm having problems with PHP5 instaled through a2enmod
[05:35] <scguy318> sensae: the ALSA config file? mm, dunno, could take a shot
[05:35] <NeowIkkin> so, in other words the server version
[05:35] <FFighter> it just seems to load the module
[05:35] <gregorovius> !nvidia | Roffelkhoptre
[05:35] <Roffelkhoptre> I looked at the online guide on the ubuntu website and didn't find any help
[05:35] <ubotu> Roffelkhoptre: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <Roffelkhoptre> thanks
[05:36] <FFighter> but does't bind .php extension to the script interpreter
[05:36] <NeowIkkin> is a stripped ubuntu made JUST for servering?
[05:36] <usr13> Shadow6363: vim /etc/shadow
[05:36] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: yes, Ubuntu Server ;)
[05:36] <weltschmerz> my system won't hibernate suddenly.  it appears to hibernate, but then reboots when i try to "resume"
[05:36] <sensae> scguy318: No, alsa itself. the hda walkthrough tells me to upgrade alsa from their site directly, and they have rcs
[05:36] <gregorovius> Roffelkhoptre, by the way, you shouldn't neet to download anything from the nvidia.com site
[05:36] <NeowIkkin> ah... the world of logic. amazing : ) thanks
[05:36] <scguy318> sensae: ah, yeah, you can try that
[05:36] <FFighter> nor add the mime types
[05:36] <slimjimflim> scguy318, what's AppDb
[05:36] <gregorovius> need*
[05:36] <Avt3kk> so what do I do????
[05:36] <scguy318> sensae: it shouldn't be ultra-deadly
[05:36] <johoja> hey does anyone know if the xvmc spec supports h.264/mpeg4 ?
[05:36] <scguy318> slimjimflim: the Wine AppDb is a site where you can get information on application compatibility with Wine, and how to get them working http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:37] <Avt3kk> force mplayer to install in ubuntu how?????
[05:37] <slimjimflim> nice
[05:37] <usr13> Avt3kk: Why won't it install normally?
[05:37] <extra>  sd
[05:37] <Avt3kk> http://pastebin.org/3819 see that
[05:37] <Avt3kk> thats the error I get<<
[05:37] <NeowIkkin> ehm. ok one more thing. at the moment im using SUSE. and that installations works on 5 cd's(3 cd's if you install the basic packages)
[05:37] <NeowIkkin> how come this one comes in one iso
[05:38] <scguy318> Avt3kk: are there any broken packages in Synaptic?
[05:38] <gregorovius> Avt3kk, do you have universe and multiverse repos activated?
[05:38] <Avt3kk> no broken packages nooo
[05:38] <extra> gotta intel 965 graphics, dell 1420, just upgraded to gutsy, now I guess the driver doesn't work
[05:38] <Avt3kk> yes enabled all of them
[05:38] <jhonattan> hello some1 from LONDON here?
[05:38] <Avt3kk> then
[05:38] <benzs_s> i am from lodnon
[05:38] <benzs_s> no i don't want to meet up
[05:38] <benzs_s> :<
[05:38] <scguy318> jhonattan: I'm not, but what's the question
[05:38] <jhonattan> hey cool nice to meet u
[05:38] <jerbear> anyone know of a good tool to monitor wifi signal strength?
[05:38] <NeowIkkin> ehm. ok one more thing. at the moment im using SUSE. and that installations works on 5 cd's(3 cd's if you install the basic packages)
[05:38] <NeowIkkin> how come this one comes in one iso
[05:38] <NeowIkkin> ?
[05:38] <gogeta> errrrrrrrr
[05:39] <magz0r> hey all, has anyone tried gutsy beta on an ATI 7xxx chip? I upgraded to it on my Dell inspiron 5100 and X does notwork right
[05:39] <benzs_s> jhonattan: did you have a question?
[05:39] <jhonattan> i would know if there is in LONDON any linux center for desemvelops
[05:39] <extra> Anyone know where I can start to try to get my graphics working again? rather than using the vesa driver?
[05:39] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: i guess it brings along the entire repo
[05:39] <gogeta> neowikkin this is not suse
[05:39] <FFighter> jhonattan, desemvelops??
[05:39] <Avt3kk> should I try t oinstall kmplayer in ubuntu?
[05:39] <drizzyt> can anyone tell me why my system crashes everytime, when i enable my 3d graphics card?(if i explain it better to them)
[05:39] <NeowIkkin> doh... i know. just tring to figure out stuff....
[05:39] <scguy318> gogeta: hes asking why Ubuntu only needs one CD, whereas SuSE needs 5
[05:39] <extra> oh, ubuntu+1
[05:39] <gogeta> oh
[05:40] <Avt3kk> man im going to make an image first brb
[05:40] <NeowIkkin> yes. it seems a bit off thats all
[05:40] <gogeta> ubuntu doesent have unnedded stuff
[05:40] <gogeta> like all the dev packages etc
[05:40] <bleubeard> oh really
[05:40] <NeowIkkin> which are?(dev)
[05:40] <gogeta> lol
[05:40] <gogeta> stuff to compile
[05:40] <NeowIkkin> :-P
[05:40] <danny500> Hello
[05:41] <gogeta> there is a dvd edtion of ubuntu that has everything
[05:41] <gogeta> same thing as the suse 5 cd
[05:41] <NeowIkkin> the question is
[05:41] <danny500> Will a Intel GMA X3000 run Bryial?
[05:41] <gregorovius> gogeta, there's a dvd edition
[05:41] <danny500> Breyl*
[05:41] <gogeta> suse installes alot of junk
[05:41] <scguy318> Beryl?
[05:41] <slimjimflim> scguy318, when starting gdm, i get a message saying that the kernel module version is different from "this" module. i'm assuming that is the most recently installed one.  how can i get both of those versions back to their original default versions?
[05:41] <gregorovius> but I don't think it has -dev packages
[05:41] <danny500> ya that
[05:41] <gogeta> ubuntu install what most people need
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> danny500 its copiz now in Gutsy. :)
[05:41] <jhonattan> FFighter YES any for Ubuntu like that
[05:41] <scguy318> slimjimflim: reinstall nvidia-glx I would imagine
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> oops compiz
[05:41] <vegananarchist> does anyone know of any irc chats that help with html?
[05:41] <NeowIkkin> should i just download the one cd version and just update stuff if need and/or if possible?
[05:42] <danny500> I'm using Feisty Fawn >_<
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> NeowIkkin i just use the 1 cd.
[05:42] <scguy318> Dr_Willis: well, Compiz and Beryl are technically separate
[05:42] <slimjimflim> *both of those mods, scguy318
[05:42] <drizzyt> can someone help me with a graphics driver problem
[05:42] <d-manman> good one dr willis
[05:42] <gogeta> hes talking suse
[05:42] <jetscreamer> not anymore
[05:42] <scguy318> Dr_Willis: Compiz Fusion is the Compiz + Beryl
[05:42] <gogeta> 1 cd on suse isnt gonna be alot
[05:42] <jetscreamer> not seperate anymore
[05:42] <NeowIkkin> lolish
[05:42] <usr13>  vegananarchist:  sudo apt-get install bluefish
[05:42] <Roffelkhoptre> My "restricted drivers manager" isn't opening, but says "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers," but I need to open this.
[05:42] <gogeta> its spred over all 5
[05:42] <jetscreamer> 1cd will be more than enough
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Compiz/beryl/whatever-its-called-this-week - needs more Changes to make it even MORE confusing. :)
[05:42] <jetscreamer> you can build a dvd out of the cd's though
[05:42] <jetscreamer> the cd .iso's
[05:43] <jetscreamer> there's a script
[05:43] <gogeta> rpm based sucks anyways bro
[05:43] <extra> can people hear me in here?
[05:43] <extra> check check
[05:43] <NeowIkkin> yea wow. well. i just had Soldat execute spontainisly
[05:43] <gogeta> install ubuntu
[05:43] <gogeta> debs own
[05:43] <NeowIkkin> this Suse gizmo is annoying
[05:43] <riotkittie> extra: no, we cannot hear you. :x
[05:43] <gogeta> hears a good way
[05:43] <scguy318> extra: nope! :)
[05:43] <Roffelkhoptre> Can anyone tell my how to open Restricted Drivers Manager when it says it doesn't need to be opened?
[05:43] <extra> riotkittie: k, thanks, just checking.. thought it was a nick registration thing
[05:43] <drizzyt> can someone help me with a graphics driver problem
[05:43] <gogeta> ubuntu comes with basic apps you can dl more
[05:43] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: if you dont need restricted, you dont, unless I'm missing something?
[05:44] <gregorovius> Roffelkhoptre, ctrl-f2 - restricted-manager
[05:44] <Roffelkhoptre> I do, because I am trying to install a card
[05:44] <gogeta> suse comes with apps compilers source codes server tools
[05:44] <gogeta> pretty mutch the kition sinl
[05:44] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: wut card?
[05:44] <usr13> drizzyt: what is  your problem?
[05:44] <gogeta> sink
[05:44] <Roffelkhoptre> Nvidia Geforce 8600
[05:44] <NeowIkkin> yes....
[05:44] <slimjimflim> when starting gdm, i get a message saying that the kernel module version is different from "this" module. i'm assuming that is the most recently installed one.  how can i get both of those modules back to their original default versions?
[05:44] <NeowIkkin> thanks a bunch
[05:44] <NeowIkkin> thats all for now lads
[05:44] <jerbear> anyone know of a good tool to monitor wifi signal strength?
[05:44] <NeowIkkin> ill be annoying ya later.
[05:44] <Roffelkhoptre> 8600 GT, sorry
[05:45] <slimjimflim> jerbear kismet
[05:45] <danny500> lol Will the PNY Geforce 8800 GTS 320MB gfx card that I just ordered run Beryl?
[05:45] <usr13> jerbear: iwconfig
[05:45] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: is it on the supported card list? if not, you may have to use Nvidia's binary installer
[05:45] <Roffelkhoptre> Where is there a supported card list?
[05:45] <usr13> jerbear: iwconfig - if the wireless card is fully suppported
[05:45] <scguy318> !nvidia | Roffelkhoptre
[05:45] <jerbear> slimjimflim, usr13: i need to be able to see realtime info...
[05:45] <ubotu> Roffelkhoptre: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <fowlduck> is gutsy slated to be LTS?
[05:45] <evilxhwnd> jerbear, knetwork manager
[05:45] <gogeta> neowtkkin ubuntu also uses compression
[05:45] <slimjimflim> jerbear kismet
[05:46] <riotkittie> i need a good usb wifi adapter. if you have one that works with wpa/wpa2 out of the box on 7.04, or isnt a total nightmare to make work, i'd love love love to know brand, model, and revision. if it's an adapter using the ralink, please do not mention it
[05:46] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: supported cards for the Restricted drivers, Nvidia binary installer should support if that doesnt
[05:46] <gogeta> so the 1 cd is abought 2 gigs of data
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> fowlduck i dont think so.. thats the next release.
[05:46] <riotkittie> as ralink makes me want to cry like its just killed my puppy.
[05:46] <gogeta> i dont think suse does
[05:46] <usr13> riotkittie: why do you want a usb wifi adapter?
[05:46] <Roffelkhoptre> Where do  I find nvidia primary installer? Is that in Add/Remove Programs?
[05:47] <drizzyt> can anyone help me with a graphics driver issue
[05:47] <usr13> drizzyt: what is  your problem?
[05:47] <gogeta> we can try
[05:47] <Flannel> Roffelkhoptre: System > Restricted Drivers (or something like that)
[05:47] <riotkittie> usr13: because i would like to connect to my wireless network, maybe :P
[05:47] <Roffelkhoptre> Flannel: that's not opening for me for some reason.
[05:47] <scguy318> Flannel: his RDM reports that he doesnt need, prob cuz the restricted doesnt do his card
[05:47] <usr13> riotkittie: Well, why not a pci card?
[05:48] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: you get it from their website
[05:48] <Flannel> Roffelkhoptre: what card?
[05:48] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: its a binary file
[05:48] <scguy318> Flanne: he has Nvidia 8600 GT
[05:48] <riotkittie> usr13: because my slots are currently jam packed with sound, video, and eSATA goodness. sound, video, hard drive > wireless
[05:48] <NeowIkkin> also
[05:48] <usr13> riotkittie: or ethernet - wireless bridge
[05:48] <Roffelkhoptre> scguy: I got a file from the nvidia website: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[05:48] <riotkittie> usr13: ethernet's not an option
[05:48] <slimjimflim> usr13, you can put usb on an extension cord, riotkittie
[05:48] <NeowIkkin> is there like magic place where it explains the wonders of linux step by step?
[05:48] <scguy318> Roffelkhoptre: in Terminal, you would probably cd to where you dowloaded it, chmod +x NVIDIA*, then sudo ./NVIDIA*
[05:49] <magz0r> can anyone help me with my bootup problem?
[05:49] <Roffelkhoptre> ok, brb
[05:49] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: on an extension cord? what? ><
[05:49] <Flannel> Roffelkhoptre: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#seealso
[05:49] <usr13>  riotkittie: pcmcia?
[05:49] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: the Ubuntu docs I think
[05:49] <drizzyt> can anyone help me with a graphics driver issue
[05:49] <slimjimflim> NeowIkkin: tldp.org
[05:49] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: for shells, theres a ton, just google
[05:49] <NeowIkkin> thats the point
[05:49] <britt> i'm missing something, cups has the printer shared, but i cant locate it on any networked computer using Windows or even OS X
[05:49] <jerbear> does anyone increase the transmit power of their wireless router? is it safe?
[05:49] <usr13>  riotkittie: This computer has no ethernet port?
[05:49] <NeowIkkin> i have no idea what shells are
[05:49] <slimjimflim> NeowIkkin: or "man <someCommand>"
[05:50] <drizzyt> can anyone help me with a graphics driver problem?
[05:50] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: a shell is the Terminal program that takes in input and commands
[05:50] <britt> jerbear: actually, Ive seen the signal actually get worse. It *IS* louder, but more staticy
[05:50] <usr13> riotkittie: Does this computer you are working on have an ethernet port?
[05:50] <scguy318> Neowlkkin: there's more power to it than crappy Windows CLI
[05:50] <Kr0ntab> !ask
[05:50] <riotkittie> usr13: this computer does have an ethernet port...
[05:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, if you use usb, you can put it on usb extension cord(s), and take it out a window or whatever for a better signal
[05:51] <NeowIkkin> scguy318:  exactly! thats why i wanna find out
[05:51] <riotkittie> but i can't [won't]  go wired.
[05:51] <usr13>  riotkittie: Then use an ethernet / wireless bridge.
[05:51] <jerbear> britt: i'm getting about 88% signal... is it worth pursuing?
[05:51] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: i don't need a better signal
[05:51] <NeowIkkin> but the TLDP.org seems to sufice.
[05:51] <dwaren> my laptop's screen is 1024x768. I want it to be at 1280x1024 when it's docked and using my external 17" monitor. how do i do this?
[05:51] <NeowIkkin> again guys. you rock thanks.
[05:51] <riotkittie> usr13: that would require a cable running into my ethernet port, right?
[05:51] <scguy318> dwaren: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, after you backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <usr13> riotkittie: Yes.
[05:51] <eck> jerbear: i think about 50% signal is considered full strength
[05:51] <riotkittie> usr13: not happening.
[05:52] <usr13> riotkittie: Why not?
[05:52] <jerbear> eck: say what? are you kidding?
[05:52] <dwaren> scguy318, thanks, but what exactly does 'phigh' do?
[05:52] <marx2k>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:52] <eck> jerbear: that's the amount of signal the protocol needs to operate at full speed
[05:52] <marx2k> dwaren: just reconfigures the very basics
[05:52] <eck> you don't need 100% strenth to max out a wifi connection
[05:52] <marx2k> video card...
[05:52] <scguy318> dwaren: what markx2k said tbh
[05:52] <dwaren> ok, I'll try it, thanks scguy318 and marx2k
[05:52] <usr13> riotkittie: Why would  you not want a network cable plugged into the eithernet port?
[05:52] <jerbear> eck: so 88% is not worth pursuing?
[05:52] <ramzzz> my usb flash drive is not being detected.  any clues?  it's a 2gb UltraProducts
[05:52] <riotkittie> usr13: because i dont have an extra cable. and my current setup would not allow for it anyway.  and if it did, i would not be inquiring about wireless usb, as i'd have the ability to use wired internet, and have no need :P
[05:53] <drizzyt> can someone please help me with an nvidia driver issue?
[05:53] <marx2k> ramzz: look at the debug info by running dmesg
[05:53] <eck> jerbear: i don't think so... if you're concerned you should test how much throughput you can get
[05:53] <marx2k> see what it says when you plug it in
[05:53] <usr13> riotkittie: You are not listening!
[05:53] <jerbear> eck: how would i do that?
[05:53] <slimjimflim> http://ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=2457 riotkittie
[05:53] <usr13> riotkittie: your best option is a BRIDGE
[05:54] <usr13> riotkittie: it is the easiest / best / most reliable way to connect to your wireless network.
[05:54] <marx2k> Hm... looks like NetBeans doesn't play nicely with Compiz
[05:54] <riotkittie> errrr.  :|
[05:54] <kjp> sigh. nvidia drivers are such a pain. hdtv out works, but everything is blue
[05:54] <TheSkorm> marx2k:  You mum doesnt play nicly with compiz
[05:54] <eck> jerbear: i don't know... do you know C? you can try ftping some files around your home netwrok, but that could be disk bound
[05:54] <TheSkorm> *your
[05:54] <usr13> riotkittie: Do you understand what I am saying?  (wireless bridge)?
[05:54] <marx2k> TheSkorm: ... ok....
[05:54] <marx2k> ?
[05:55] <drizzyt> can someone tell me how to find the device PCI id of a video card?
[05:55] <marx2k> drizzyt: type "lspci"
[05:55] <sandesh> how to run java files in ubuntu.. . wht is the java compiler in ubuntu
[05:55] <riotkittie> usr13: uhm. no. not really. and even if i did, i don't think i'd see the point. no offense to you.
[05:55] <riotkittie> let me elaborate.
[05:56] <usr13>  riotkittie Ethernet-to-wireless bridge is your best option.
[05:56] <marx2k> sorry drizz, I cant msg... "lspci | grep VGA"
[05:56] <usr13> riotkittie: yes, please elaborate.
[05:56] <sandesh> how to run java files in ubuntu. i am beginer of java . .i hv written hello wordl program in java.. which is the compiler . .for java. .
[05:56] <ramzzz> marx2k: ran it.  tons of info.  i have 4 USB ports.  one has my mouse, which works fine.  it also found a 'fly-drive' - guessing that's it.  what now?
[05:56] <dwaren> marx2k scguy318, I did it but the new resolution that i added in the menu isn't appearing in system->preferences->screen resolution
[05:57] <usr13> riotkittie: Actually, I think it is I that needs to elaborate.
[05:57] <marx2k> ramzz: I dont know... but at least you know its recognizing it... does it say wether it mounts it to /dev/xxx?
[05:57] <riotkittie> usr13: please do.
[05:57] <sigger_> whats the command line command for checking what programs are listing to ports?
[05:57] <marx2k> dwaren: did you restart X?
[05:57] <riotkittie> usr13: and my apologies as i am fairly clueless about all things networking related :P
[05:57] <usr13>  riotkittie Ethernet-to-wireless bridge connects directly to a single device via an Ethernet port, and then provides a wireless connection to an access point.
[05:58] <marx2k> sigger: netstat
[05:58] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, i think the ralinks are supported, what chipset do you have?
[05:58] <magzilla> has anyone had trouble upgrading from feisty to gutsy beta... i did and X is not working right
[05:58] <sigger_> thansk marx2k
[05:58] <dwaren> marx2k, i just did, thanks.
[05:58] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, did you check the hardware compatibility list?
[05:58] <marx2k> drizzyt: , theres your answer :) Youre at PCI address 1:00:00
[05:58] <scguy318> dwaren: mm, you might want to tweak horiz/refresh values in xorg.conf, edit as root of course
[05:58] <sandesh> how to run java programs in ubuntu..
[05:58] <scguy318> dwaren: and im rly tired and want to go so
[05:58] <dwaren> marx2k, what exactly is supposed to happen when I undock the laptop?
[05:58] <scguy318> sandesh: sun-java6-jre
[05:58] <scguy318> sandesh: and java
[05:58] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: yea, it is supported, and i picked it from the list. it works, i just cant it to work with wpa2, which i really need
[05:58] <scguy318> night all dead tired
[05:58] <usr13> riotkittie: It is a small device that will sit on  your desk next to the PC.  It is called a "wireless bridge" (for short).
[05:59] <marx2k> dwaren: Im not really sure what your question means
[05:59] <Shadow6363> hmm, if i have an external drive that is being automounted, how do i set the permissions for it?
[05:59] <Scoreed> Installing Ubuntu Now - 34% of Base System
[05:59] <Poul|Raider> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/camlrunm: double free or corruption (out): 0x08083000 ***  is that bad?
[05:59] <marx2k> drizzyt: what do you mean?
[05:59] <usr13> riotkittie: several companies sell them, e.g. D-Link, Linksys, netgear, etc.
[05:59] <eck> Poul|Raider: it means the author of the program made a mistake
[05:59] <Poul|Raider> hey eck, that would be me :D
[06:00] <Smartmonkey> Would this be the right place to ask a question about a firewall script?
[06:00] <eck> Poul|Raider: fix your code :-P
[06:00] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, hmm, does the list mention protocols supported such as wpa2?
[06:00] <marx2k> drizzyt: , that looks fine... mine is: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 XT]  (rev a1)
[06:00] <Poul|Raider> but eck, well i got an idea of what cause it but i dont realy know for sure what the error means :))
[06:00] <sandesh> thanks scguy
[06:00] <marx2k> whats the supported list youre looking at, drizzyt ?
[06:01] <Smartmonkey> Would this be the right place to ask a question about a firewall script?
[06:01] <usr13> riotkittie: For example, D-Link offers an 802.11b compatible Ethernet-to-wireless bridge, model number DWL-810
[06:01] <ramzzz> marx2k: it's mounting placement isn't listed.  the port works with other flash drives, though.
[06:01] <Scoreed> (6)
[06:01] <marx2k> ramzzz: Youd really have to google on that brand of drivem sorry
[06:01] <eck> Poul|Raider: in means your program called free(3) on already-freed memory
[06:01] <riotkittie> usr13: i still don't see the point of having a wireless bridge. and even if i did, i have no desire to spend money
[06:01] <slimjimflim> smartmonkey, not if fieldy is around :)
[06:01] <ramzzz> marx2k: cool thank you!
[06:02] <eck> Poul|Raider: i'm not sure what that means if you're not coding in c/c++ though
[06:02] <Scoreed> 70%
[06:02] <Smartmonkey> not sure that is but I don't think i see him  ;)
[06:02] <Smartmonkey> ^who
[06:02] <marx2k> Oh...Drizz, I see what youre saying... the PCI ID on that list is different from what youre seeing from LSPCI... the info in LSPCI is the address of where it is on your motherboard
[06:03] <slimjimflim> smartmonkey, one of the ops, he especially doesn't like people talking about coding in here
[06:03] <marx2k> PCI slot 1 on yours, apparently
[06:03] <sensae> bah, the hda intel article didn't help
[06:03] <marx2k> mine is on slot 3
[06:03] <Poul|Raider> eck, its a parser written in sml(dont realy have to care about free of memory) but the error comes from memory issues, as i was just want to see the time of it, so gave it a 80mb txt file and well then the error came
[06:03] <marx2k> drizzyt: well, what are you trying to do?
[06:03] <slimjimflim> smartmonkey, i wouldn't worry though
[06:03] <Smartmonkey> i have a vendor who built a firewall for us.. i've been asked to increase the timeout to 1 ip.. and I don't want to go to the vendor..
[06:03] <eck> Poul|Raider: i guess you should take it up with the sml folks then
[06:04] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: the ubuntu wiki mentions my device and whoever tested it mentioned at least wpa but that goes back to breezy. i'm supposed to be able to get wpa2 going with the rt2x00 drivers but i have yet to succeed with a compile
[06:04] <riotkittie> which is why i'm looking for a new device
[06:04] <Poul|Raider> ye eck, not sure it means much as it should not parse over 20mb files and works fine for that
[06:04] <marx2k> drizzyt: I would suggest first trying just the restricted drivers on ubuntu before using NVidia's binary drivers
[06:04] <slimjimflim> smartmonkey, can you pastebin it?
[06:04] <magzilla> has anyone had trouble upgrading from feisty to gutsy beta... i did and X is not working right
[06:04] <riotkittie> This is a desktop, and as such, doesn't really neeeeed to be wired. On the other hand, I'm running a FON hotspot, and can only go wired if i kill my router
[06:04] <usr13>  riotkittie: USB wireless adapters cost money too, don't they?
[06:05] <Smartmonkey> umm possibly
[06:05] <marx2k> drizzyt: Hm... I'd say try the binary drivers then but expect to have to recompile them with every kernel upgrade
[06:05] <jerbear> my wireless network is 802.11g, and my throughput tests are showing ~18Mbps.... is that typical?
[06:05] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, what's "fon"
[06:05] <Wooderson> i need some help for some reason i cant listen to my songs
[06:06] <Scoreed> ubuntu is stuck of 83% - Installing The Kernal
[06:06] <marx2k> drizzyt: , before you do that though
[06:06] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: www.fon.com    ...  i'm sharing my wifi with the masses :P
[06:07] <mage__> exec <command> closes the shell after command runs, how do I just run the command?
[06:07] <dwaren> I got this completely sweet KVM switch, works perfectly with two ubuntu machines
[06:07] <jerbear> dwaren: what kind?
[06:07] <dwaren> jerbear, a belkin 'flip'
[06:07] <marx2k> have you tried using nvidia-settings?
[06:07] <riotkittie> my laptop's wifi card works flawlesssssly, but my laptop sucks :|
[06:07] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, oic, and they require wpa2?
[06:07] <Scoreed> ubuntu is stuck of 83% - Installing The Kernal
[06:07] <marx2k> drizzyt: , the latest drivers from nvidia should work with your card
[06:07] <jerbear> dwaren: dvi or vga?
[06:07] <dwaren> it's got an external button thing, usb, audio
[06:07] <dwaren> jerbear, vga
[06:08] <Scoreed> dw solved it
[06:08] <usr13> riotkittie: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=Wireless+bridge&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&ebaytag1=ebayreg&srchdesc=n&maxRecordsReturned=300&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
[06:08] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: no, they dont require wpa2, but given the fact that i live in a building with eight other units, and will randomly have other people using my public connection, i'd like to be able to use a personal network with the highest available security
[06:08] <garette> hi all can anyone tell me how do i reamove the orange back ground that come just before gdm loads its them
[06:08] <marx2k> drizzyt: have you tried installing nvidia-glx-new?
[06:08] <Wooderson> is theres a problem with ubuntu audio or something?
[06:09] <marx2k> drizzyt: do what
[06:09] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, so you're sharing your wireless, but you don't want anyone else to use it? how does that work exactly?
[06:09] <riotkittie> usr13: i don't want a bridge.
[06:09] <nickrud> garette: I think that's set by system->admin->login manager, on the second tab
[06:09] <_daniel_> e.net
[06:09] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: i have two networks. one public, one private.
[06:10] <garette> nickrud, no i didn't find anything like that there
[06:10] <marx2k> it might be just installing nvidia-glx
[06:10] <riotkittie> usr13: i do not want a network bridge
[06:10] <Scoreed> does anyone know is uTorrent works on Ubuntu 7.04?
[06:10] <nickrud> Wooderson: not really, but some people have issues with their cards
[06:10] <usr13> riotkittie: Ok.
[06:10] <usr13> I heard you the first time.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Scoreed ive used wine and utorrent befor.
[06:10] <Scoreed> ok
[06:10] <Wooderson> i dont have a card
[06:11] <Scoreed> thanks
[06:11] <riotkittie> that was odd because i didnt type it a second time. though i did see it show. hm.
[06:11] <Wooderson> and it was working fine like 2 hrs ago...
[06:11] <nickrud> garette: the local tab, there's a button for background color just below the theme selector
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Scoreed thers otther native torrent clients that are very good.
[06:11] <Scoreed> ok i am just installing ubuntu now
[06:11] <garette> nickrud,hehe
[06:11] <jerbear> Scoreed: you should check out deluge
[06:11] <marx2k> drizzyt: when you do that, you also might want to run nvidia-xconfig
[06:11] <garette> nickrud, thanks
[06:11] <garette> nickrud, dude :D
[06:11] <Scoreed> ok i will google it
[06:11] <marx2k> drizzy, I say try it
[06:11] <usr13> riotkittie: What kind of internet connection do you have?
[06:11] <nickrud> garette: lol, if it was a snake you'd have holes in your skin :)
[06:11] <usr13> DSL?
[06:12] <riotkittie> usr13: cable
[06:12] <garette> :P
[06:12] <marx2k> drizzyt: comes with the installation I believe
[06:12] <jerbear> !ts
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, i think this will lead you in the right direction www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-498743.html
[06:12] <usr13> riotkittie: is this a desktop you are trying to connect to it?
[06:12] <Scoreed> should ubuntu install (alternate) stay on Select and Install Software 1% - Configuring Language-pack-en-base?
[06:12] <garette> !ubotu good morning :P
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good morning :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <marx2k> drizzyt: yes, but Im trying to remember what options to run with it... hanf on
[06:13] <marx2k> reading the man file...
[06:13] <usr13> riotkittie: to your wireless AP.?
[06:13] <Ardin> mk, just a very quick question. Every time i try and install ubuntu, or kubuntu, i get to the partition part, and it just hangs. not the whole system, but the installer. could it be because of my ntfs partitions?
[06:13] <Scoreed> dw fianally moved after 15 minutes
[06:13] <marx2k> doubt it
[06:14] <usr13> riotkittie: DO you have another PC in that same room that is connected via wireless connection?  If so, you can just bridge the connection to the other one with crossover.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Ardin use gparted on live cd and manually resize the ntfs, leaving part of the disk unallocated.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Ardin and see if it still happens.
[06:14] <riotkittie> my ap's connected to my modem.
[06:14] <riotkittie> and no, the other box is wired, via usb.
[06:14] <marx2k> drizzyt: honestly, I install my nvidia drivers with Envy so Im not really an expert on all that :)
[06:14] <usr13> riotkittie: and not in the same room?
[06:14] <Jamesinator> How do I (from a terminal) update from Feisty 7.04 Server to Gutsy 7.10 Server Beta?
[06:15] <Ardin> uh... why would i mess with my partitons... that seems like a bad idea...
[06:15] <marx2k> Jamesinator: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:15] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: that's a thread with two posts by the same person that hasnt been touched since... july :P
[06:15] <volantares> hi
[06:15] <Ardin> it works FINE with slackware. could i just disconnect the drive?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Ardin if you are Installing Ubuntu.. it WILL mess with the partitions..
[06:15] <Jamesinator> marx2k: Doesn't work, already updated my package lists and tried that
[06:15] <riotkittie> it's in the same room. but my husband doesn't want it anything but wired.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Ardin you are isntalling to a 2nd hd?  hmmm.. that IS od.
[06:15] <Ardin> NO
[06:15] <marx2k> drizzyt: yeah then last thing is just try the binary driver bro :)
[06:15] <Ardin> i'm installing over it, i want it gone.
[06:15] <slimjimflim> usr13, if she did a bridge, the network between those 2 computers would still not be secured by wpa2
[06:15] <Ardin> ... why will it mess with my partitions? i dont want it resizing anything other than /dev/hda
[06:16] <nickrud> Jamesinator: what happened? that's how I did my upgrade
[06:16] <Ardin> and even then i dont want it messing with much. io'
[06:16] <Ardin> ergs. i got my partitions the way i want, i think
[06:16] <Jamesinator> nickrud: I don't have the lines for the Gutsy repositories, and just doing an update and dist-upgrade doesn't seem to add them
[06:16] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, oops
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Ardin now ya got me all confused. :)    I am saying 'manually resize' whatever it is you want resized. to see if theres any errors/other messages.
[06:16] <arooni> how long would it take to install compiz-fusion on top of feisty (  i already have beryl working) .............  or should i just wait for gutsy to come out?
[06:16] <usr13> slimjimflim: But it's behind a firewall, so why does it make a difference.
[06:16] <nickrud> Jamesinator: no, you have to change the sources.list manually with the command line tools
[06:16] <Ardin> fuck it, i'll just disconnect all drives other than /dev/hda and copy my home directory away. then i'll edit the fstab file
[06:17] <Ardin> ubuntu has a /etc/fstab RIGHT?
[06:17] <riotkittie> Ardin: try the alternate CD?  are you using an external drive?
[06:17] <volantares> er.. yes
[06:17] <MasterShrek> yea Ardin
[06:17] <marx2k> nvidia-settings                                  - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[06:17] <Ardin> no, no external drives
[06:17] <riotkittie> Ardin: of course it does
[06:17] <Ardin> good, then i'll mess with it that way
[06:17] <Jamesinator> nickrud: If I knew how to do that, wouldn't it defeat the purpose of asking here?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Ardin
[06:17] <ubotu> Ardin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:17] <marx2k> drizzyt: no problem :D
[06:17] <nickrud> Jamesinator: comment out the 3rd party repos, and change all references to fiesty to gutsy.
[06:17] <marx2k> !nvidia
[06:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <Jamesinator> nickrud: Ok, thanks, just a sec
[06:17] <Ardin> wow.. uh.. ok, i realized it right as i typed it, theres no need to 'scold me' in public like that
[06:17] <marx2k> !compiz
[06:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <nickrud> Jamesinator: then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:18] <volantares> you weren't scolded
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> To the 'naughty chair' !  :)
[06:18] <riotkittie> i wish i hadnt given my switch away :|
[06:18] <usr13> riotkittie: If it connects to the AP via ethernet cable, it would be more secure than wireless.  Right?
[06:19] <Ardin> by the way, if you want to keep out swearing, i do believe that theres a channel mode you can set to bleep that stuff out.
[06:19] <extra> what should I reinstall to get ubuntu to stop using the vesa driver and use my gma 965 driver instead?
[06:19] <Ardin> hmm, maybe not on hyperion
[06:19] <Ardin> bullcrap
[06:19] <marx2k> Does anyone else have issues with Atheros wireless chips randomly disconnect/reconnecting to the router?
[06:19] <Ardin> Dr_Willis: its mode +G on unrealircd
[06:19] <Ardin> i know that for a fact.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> if you say so..  cant say that ive ever seen it used.
[06:20] <marx2k> extra: whats gma?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> then again. not sure what ircd freenode uses.
[06:20] <volantares> good morning america
[06:20] <marx2k> hah
[06:20] <Ardin> i do, it uses hyperion
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> nickrud :)
[06:20] <Ardin> * heinlein.freenode.net hyperion-1.0.2b
[06:20] <_fred> I never get the latest version of almost any software in with apt. When will this be fixed?
[06:21] <riotkittie> usr13: yes, i suppose it is. on the other hand, i believe that i've pointed out that wired's not an option.
[06:21] <marx2k> fred: there are bleeding edge repositories available but really why would you want  it?
[06:21] <nickrud> _fred: ubuntu will always lag behind, anywhere from 2 to 8 months
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> _fred thats what a 6mo release cycle is about.
[06:21] <slimjimflim> _fred that's normal for packages, you can always compile the lastest version from source
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> every 6 mo - all the stuff gets updated.. and soon gets out dated.  and it continues.
[06:22] <usr13>  riotkittie: Why, No more ports? or logistics or???
[06:22] <Ardin> theres a ntfs-3g package right?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-3g
[06:22] <Smartmonkey> slimjimflim, did you get my pm
[06:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[06:22] <marx2k> ardin: yep
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> yes. :)
[06:22] <Ardin> mk
[06:22] <Lnknpk04> having problems reading a burned data dvd+r on my laptop w/ feisty
[06:22] <^Ocean^> n #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <Lnknpk04> doesn't mount the dvd
[06:22] <Ardin> wow, this channel has too many triggers
[06:22] <_fred> but is it safe to overwrite from source?
[06:22] <Lnknpk04> any ideas?
[06:22] <_fred> won't the database be currupted?
[06:23] <marx2k> Ardin: "aptitude search ntfs"
[06:23] <Ardin> marx2k: i'd love to, if i had it installed yet
[06:23] <eck> _fred: it's safe, because you'll install the compiled binary into /usr/local
[06:23] <marx2k> you dont have linux installed?
[06:23] <nickrud> _fred: install it to /usr/local, that's where self-compiled stuff should go. Database is untouched that way
[06:23] <Ardin> i'm working on burning the dvd
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> _fred id suggest just compilng stuff as a user. and putting the new versions in their own home dir.
[06:23] <marx2k> oh ok :)
[06:23] <Ardin> afhjghds AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh
[06:23] <Wooderson> how do i get my DSP400 Headset to work with linux?
[06:23] <slimjimflim> _fred you should apt-get remove anything that you want to install from source if it's already on the system
[06:23] <Ardin> marx2k: UBUNTU IS NOT THE ONLY FLAVOR OF LINUX
[06:23] <_fred> nickrud: thanks :)
[06:23] <volantares> !ohmy | volantares
[06:23] <Ardin> right now i'm on slackware.
[06:24] <timsom> hello,it there anyone know how to install the linux from local hard disk ,I use the SCSI
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> !install
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:24] <riotkittie> usr13: because that would involve killing my hotspot & violating the terms of a contract, or spending money on things i dont really want to buy
[06:24] <Lnknpk04> cant read data dvd+r on a inspiron 1000 combo cd/dvd.  any ideas?
[06:24] <MasterShrek> so virtualbox doesnt use kvm?
[06:24] <usr13> riotkittie: You are connected via hotspot?
[06:25] <statictonic> Anyone in here have some experience with copying DVD movies in linux, I've tried k9copy and dvd::rip, but both seem to crash on me when I have it read the dvd, i've tried multiple different movies with it as well...
[06:25] <riotkittie> usr13: yes
[06:25] <marx2k> kvm?
[06:25] <Scoreed> yay 23%
[06:25] <MasterShrek> statictonic, have you ran the programs in a terminal so you can see what happens when they crash?
[06:25] <Wooderson> !dsp400
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsp400 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <timsom> when i install the linux,it says that can,t from the ISO file ,but I have the ISO file in my local hard disk
[06:25] <MasterShrek> marx2k, kernel-based virtual machine
[06:25] <marx2k> Gutsy seems to not play well with VirtualBox just yet
[06:25] <Wooderson> !dsp400 headset driver
[06:25] <statictonic> yep, on k9 libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 3 (VTS_03_0.IFO).
[06:25] <usr13> riotkittie: I thought you said that your internet connection was via cable.
[06:26] <statictonic> gets that for a bunch of different ifos
[06:26] <MasterShrek> marx2k, whys that? it runs fine on mine except i cant get virtualbox-modules package
[06:26] <marx2k> MasterShrek: at every boot it keeps crashing that new panel search applet
[06:26] <usr13> and you have a wireless AP connected to the cable modem.  RIght?  So why not use wired port on the AP?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> marx2k, that strigi thing?
[06:27] <marx2k> um... whatever that little applet is that appears on the top/right on the screen
[06:27] <marx2k> the string input thing, yeah
[06:27] <usr13> riotkittie: When you say "hotspot" you are talking about your Wireless Router,  Right?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> marx2k, gnome or kde? im using kde, doesnt seem to effect anything
[06:27] <marx2k> gnome
[06:27] <extra> marx2k: it's the intel integrated graphics chip, the new one, that comes with the dell 1420 (dellbuntu)
[06:27] <riotkittie> usr13: oh. the question as phrased led me to believe you were asking what type of connection i had, not what method i was using to connect to that connection
[06:28] <riotkittie> usr13: yea
[06:28] <marx2k> extra: Oh! Hm, wouldnt know...
[06:28] <extra> marx2k: crapola
[06:28] <Lnknpk04> cant read data dvd+r on a inspiron 1000 combo cd/dvd.  searched around for known problems w/ the drive and ubuntu but found no info.  Can anyone assist?
[06:28] <usr13> Ok, the wireless router (or as some call it, "wireless AP"), more than likely has ethernet ports, right?
[06:29] <marx2k> MasterShrek: I figured it was just beta release funkiness... I installed it to recompile the kernel on but decided to run Fiesty in VBox for kernel recompiling
[06:29] <alanapost> hi #ubuntu i am having some problems with my laptop's cdrom after feisty issues, wondering if anyone is familiar with related bugs/troubleshooting? ):
[06:29] <marx2k> extra: Shouldnt dell offer support on that? Or Intel?
[06:29] <usr13> riotkittie: Or, ... was the Wireless Router provided by the cable company?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 for a start.. that diive CAN read DVD+r's ?    (dont ask how i wasted 3 hrs one day) :)
[06:29] <marx2k> alanapost:  what kind of bugs?
[06:29] <MasterShrek> ic marx2k, im dont think im going to use vbox anyways, my command line kvm commands run just fine, ive never seen xp run this well lol
[06:29] <usr13> riotkittie: and if it was provided by the cable company, it may only have one ethernet port?
[06:30] <Lnknpk04> lol.  Yes.  Its my wifes and it read them when it ran XP
[06:30] <alanapost> @marx2k: Bug #94119, first reported on 2007-03-20  by  Jaidee CDROM drive no longer working, unable to mount.
[06:30] <coreymanshack> how do I remove everything from sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:30] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, ok, checkout madwifi.org
[06:30] <coreymanshack> i want to do a clean install of that
[06:30] <riotkittie> usr13: the router was provided by FON, and it has a single port
[06:30] <MasterShrek> corenominal, sudo apt-get remove
[06:30] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, I see....
[06:30] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo aptitude reinstall <packages>
[06:30] <extra> marx2k: eh, I don't think so.. I thought that was part of the deal, dell won't do software side stuff for ubuntu.. I'll check the site though
[06:30] <marx2k> Master: its between VBox and VMWare Server for me... and I am liking VirtualBox a LOT better... especially since it doesnt seem to be taking up lots of processing running idle modules in the background like VMWare
[06:30] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, that being said.  what do you think?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 Just checking. :)   ive heard that burning the .iso to cd at 1x speed can help. YOu are burning them right? windows can read them? whats on teh disks from windows? a single.iso file? if so =  You are burning them wrong. :)
[06:30] <usr13> riotkittie: "FON" is the cable company?
[06:31] <slimjimflim> usr13, that's the wifi-sharing program
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 you dont want to know the # of times ive seen peopelk drag/drop .iso files to a cd under windows...
[06:31] <Lnknpk04> its data that i burned off of my windows computer (research papers, etc).  Reads fine in windows
[06:31] <riotkittie> no. teh cable company is roadrunner.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 so how are you.. burning the .iso to the cd ?
[06:32] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, newbie to linux, not computers ;-P
[06:32] <marx2k> nickrud: install k3b, hit start... gimmie a drink too :D
[06:32] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, using Nero 7 on the xp machine
[06:32] <MasterShrek> marx2k, thats why i dont use vmware, but qemu using kvm i think is even better, but i dont know for sure if vbox can make use of kvm, if it can, i would probably go to it
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 you dont want to know the   times ive heard that also.. :)
[06:32] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, what's your mount command
[06:32] <nickrud> marx2k: windows, so he could install 7.04.
[06:32] <marx2k> MasterShrek: can QEmu run all sorts of OSes?
[06:32] <coreymanshack> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:33] <Wooderson> how do i create a text file?
[06:33] <coreymanshack> it fails every time
[06:33] <marx2k> nickrud: did you have to explain installation of nero or something?
[06:33] <usr13> riotkittie: Is this what your talking about:  http://www.fon.com/en/info/whatsFon ? (This is the first I've heard of "FON").
[06:33] <coreymanshack> how do i force it to quit that.
[06:33] <MasterShrek> marx2k, omg yea, it can emulate a ppc or a sparc, just about anything
[06:33] <nickrud> coreymanshack: do exactly that in  a terminal
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> Lnknpk04 ok. :)   check the md5 sum also befor burning.. try the iso in vmware.. perhaps as a test...   try 1x burn speed.. all i can suggest...
[06:33] <riotkittie> usr13: yes
[06:33] <coreymanshack> nickrud it fails every time
[06:33] <Lnknpk04> Dr_Willis, just dragging and dropping the doc files into the data dvd creator in Nero.  No iso
[06:33] <nickrud> marx2k: had him get infrarecorder
[06:33] <marx2k> wtf.. why
[06:33] <MasterShrek> marx2k, but ive heard vbox is built off of qemu, i dont know if thats tru or not, but what ive heard
[06:33] <nickrud> coreymanshack: could you paste the complete error from   sudo dpkg --configure -a   on a pastebin
[06:33] <coreymanshack> ok
[06:33] <nickrud> marx2k: works, gpl
[06:34] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, should be something like `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:34] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, what do you mean by mount command?  What should i try in the terminal
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Night all.
[06:34] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, let me try that
[06:34] <alanapost> anyone: should i try a non-cd reinstall to try and get my cdrom working & mounting? and if so, what's the recommended non-cd install method
[06:34] <marx2k> Ive had few, if any, issues with VBox.. only some basic install lameness... it creates a group that you have to add yourself to
[06:34] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, do `ls /dev` first and find your cd device
[06:35] <usr13> riotkittie: "FON" is software, right?  SO what kind of AP do you have?
[06:35] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, it's probably cdrom or cdrom0
[06:35] <Smartmonkey> I need to increase timeout for 1 ip in my firewall script.. anyone have any advice for me?
[06:35] <Wooderson> How do i get permissions to the folder etc/mod.probe??????
[06:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud, 1 sec i may have fixed it
[06:35] <MasterShrek> marx2k, qemu doesnt have a nice gui to set things up tho, u have to look at a config file and use commands, i make a script but yea
[06:35] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, thats weird.  that worked after it gave me mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only
[06:35] <Lnknpk04>  as an error
[06:35] <bruenig> um cdrom and cdrom0 if they exist at all are always symlinks
[06:35] <jxxxt> I just tried installing Fiesty the checkdisc was ok but when I got to partition it froze my machine all partition options do the same thing.. freeze the machine any help please??
[06:35] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, why wouldn't it auto mount?
[06:35] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, there you go, now you can access your cdrom
[06:35] <marx2k> MasterShrek: when you make a qemu image, does it option to break it up into xGB chunks or is it one huge image file?
[06:36] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, appreciate it.  any way for me to get that little guy to auto mount in the future
[06:36] <riotkittie> usr13: no. wireless routers would be hardware, i believe.
[06:36] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, it's probably on your desktop, or you can say `ls /media/cdrom`
[06:36] <MasterShrek> marx2k, i dont see any options to do that, never thought of that
[06:36] <riotkittie> and i dont see why my ap matters. no offense, but  it has nothing to do with my original question.
[06:36] <usr13> riotkittie: Then what is the device that is transmitting the wireless signal?
[06:37] <Wooderson> Can someone help me?????
[06:37] <Lnknpk04> slimjimflim, wasn't showing up on the desktop.  Thats what clued me in.  That and the fact that I couldn't open it up in Computer
[06:37] <coreymanshack> wooderson with what
[06:37] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, why do you want permissions to that?
[06:37] <nickrud> Wooderson: you would use gksudo to get write permissions
[06:37] <slimjimflim> wodderson, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[06:37] <Wooderson> it says i dont have permissions to folder /etc/mod.probe
[06:37] <nickrud> Wooderson: found a fix for your sound?
[06:37] <MasterShrek> he already did
[06:37] <slimjimflim> wodderson, nm
[06:37] <Wooderson> yes nick i did
[06:37] <marx2k> MasterShrek: I didnt think of it either until I reaized my VBox image is on a Fat32 drive and it's incrementally grown with a 10gig max allowance... so now...what was Fat32's size limit again?
[06:37] <riotkittie> usr13: i'm not sure what it is exactly. a rebranded something or other.
[06:37] <marx2k> (file size limit)
[06:37] <usr13> riotkittie: it just a wireless card in your computer?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> 4gigs marx2k
[06:38] <marx2k> Yeah...
[06:38] <marx2k> so that might be an issue soon
[06:38] <Wooderson> im trying to do this...
[06:38] <MasterShrek> yea probably lol
[06:38] <nickrud> Wooderson: in a terminal, gksudo gedit   will get you write permissions
[06:38] <slimjimflim> wooderson, nm
[06:38] <Wooderson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlantronicsUSBHeadsetControls
[06:38] <MasterShrek> mines ext3 so no worries
[06:38] <marx2k> See, VMWare breaks it up into 2gb chunks so...
[06:38] <riotkittie> i have a usb wifi adapter.
[06:38] <slimjimflim> Lnknpk04, google:automount
[06:38] <usr13> riotkittie: What exactly is plugged into the cable modem?
[06:38] <marx2k> Master: yeah, I put it on an external drive that's also read by Windows boxes at school so... :)
[06:39] <MasterShrek> yea marx2k but you can make another virtual drive and install programs and stuff on that, kinda ugly but it would work
[06:39] <alanapost> is there at least any utility application that can help me diagnose the problem with my cdrom displaying under device manager but not loading any data
[06:39] <marx2k> MasterShrek: Ill probably just end doing that
[06:39] <coreymanshack> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39231/
[06:39] <MasterShrek> Alan, is it mounting?
[06:39] <riotkittie> usr13: a usb cord leading to the other box, and the wireless router
[06:39] <MasterShrek> alanapost**
[06:39] <timsom> is there somebody can help?thank you
[06:40] <slimjimflim> alanapost, have you tried mount?
[06:40] <jxxxt> I just tried installing Fiesty the checkdisc was ok but when I got to partition it froze my machine all partition options do the same thing.. freeze the machine any help please??
[06:40] <MasterShrek> !ask | timsom
[06:40] <ubotu> timsom: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:40] <alanapost> not sure what specific mount command to use..? i thought if it showed up under my hardware devices it was 'mounted'
[06:40] <Scoreed> what is libsoup2.2-8
[06:40] <MasterShrek> alanapost, try this: sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[06:40] <alanapost> k
[06:40] <coreymanshack> nickrud you there?
[06:40] <Wooderson> ok im confused..
[06:41] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yeah, reading the Readme
[06:41] <coreymanshack> oh ok thx nickrud
[06:41] <usr13> riotkittie: So the wireless router is plugged into the cable modem?  Is that correct?
[06:41] <Wooderson> i want full access to my computer...
[06:41] <Wooderson> how can i become root?
[06:41] <riotkittie> usr13: yes.
[06:41] <marx2k> Scoreed:
[06:41] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, thats not a good idea
[06:41] <marx2k> libsoup2.2-8                                     - an HTTP library implementation in C -- Shared library
[06:41] <MasterShrek> !root | Wooderson
[06:41] <ubotu> Wooderson: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:41] <slimjimflim> wooderson, sudo <some command> is safer than changing users
[06:42] <usr13> riotkittie: What kind of wireless router is it?  Linksys or D-link or Belkin or...?
[06:42] <Wooderson> but it wont let me paste the file in the folder
[06:42] <Wooderson> it says you dont have permissons
[06:42] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, use the terminal and sudo
[06:42] <coreymanshack> sudo nautilus
[06:42] <nickrud> coreymanshack: did you try to delete the /etc/mysql directory by any chance?
[06:42] <MasterShrek> that works too
[06:42] <Wooderson> well i want full access to my own freaking computer
[06:42] <coreymanshack> wooderson sudo nautilus
[06:42] <alanapost> @MasterShrek: after sudo mount /media/cdrom0 (and putting in password) terminal is now hanging
[06:42] <jxxxt> do I need go ask about install probs some place else??
[06:42] <slimjimflim> mastershrek that's funny (ubotu)
[06:42] <coreymanshack> nickrud actually yes.
[06:42] <coreymanshack> nickrud and i think that screwed it
[06:42] <MasterShrek> Wooderson, i promise you will cause yourself more problems lol
[06:42] <riotkittie> usr13: i have no idea. fon bought them from some company and rebranded them
[06:43] <nickrud> Wooderson: you do, but some sections are protected,
[06:43] <nickrud> !sudo > Wooderson read this about getting permissions for system areas
[06:43] <Wooderson> ok corey your the man
[06:43] <riotkittie> but i dont understand why my router is relevant.
[06:43] <timsom> ok ,i have buy a new  SCSI hard pan.I want to install the ubuntu from the local hard pan,but when the install say that it can find the ISO file from the local hard.
[06:43] <MasterShrek> alanapost, is your drive spinning up at all?
[06:43] <Wooderson> thank you corey
[06:43] <alanapost> having access to the whole OS is like having access to your own central nervous system. i mean why bothers
[06:43] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yup. A sec
[06:43] <coreymanshack> your welcome wooderson
[06:43] <usr13> riotkittie: If you plug an ethernet cable into one of the ethernet ports of the Wireless Router, you will be operating independly from the wireless network.
[06:43] <Smartmonkey> I need to increase timeout for 1 ip in my firewall script.. it was written by a vendor whom I do not want to use anymore.. any one?
[06:43] <timsom> but ,when i use the IDE hard ,it can be done
[06:43] <timsom> what is the problem
[06:43] <alanapost> @MasterShrek: yeah, it spins on system restart and spins when a disc is inserted, but the disc never shows up and i can't boot from cd
[06:44] <slimjimflim> alanapost maybe `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:44] <slimjimflim> alanapost or cdrom0
[06:44] <riotkittie> usr13: we've already covered the fact that there is but one port on the router
[06:44] <MasterShrek> alanapost, have you tried with a different disc? to boot off it you probably need to set in your bios
[06:44] <alanapost> ok slimjimflim trying now
[06:44] <bruenig>  /dev/cdrom is a symlink
[06:44] <timsom> is the SISC hard pan's problem
[06:44] <MasterShrek> try cdrom instead of cdrom0
[06:44] <nickrud> coreymanshack: there should be more in the error, about what file failed ( or at least post install or something
[06:44] <timsom> help me
[06:44] <slimjimflim> riotkittie, did you check madwifi.org yet?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> !scsi
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <bruenig> try using the actual device file
[06:44] <alanapost> @MasterShrek BIOS is set to look at HD only after cd, usb, ext, network..
[06:44] <bruenig> instead of these stabs at symlinks
[06:45] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, so the Wireless Router has only one ehternet port, the WAN port, (and has no LAN ports)?
[06:45] <delwi01> dear all pls help us, how to share printer in system linux..??
[06:45] <MasterShrek> alanapost, what are you trying to boot? ubuntu?
[06:45] <coreymanshack> nickrud one time it said mysql and mysql-5 or something, all the rest of the times it just stalls
[06:45] <coreymanshack> ill try again
[06:45] <nickrud> coreymanshack: and you have to ctrl-c to quit?
[06:46] <coreymanshack> no i press the big x a bunch of times
[06:46] <slimjimflim> delwi01, samba
[06:46] <timsom> is a new .i have know little about it,the people who sell me the computer say that to me
[06:46] <alanapost> @MasterShrek i am on my xubuntu install but i have lost cdrom
[06:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud i'm going to wait on it...
[06:46] <timsom> MasterShrek:do you install you linux from the local hard pan
[06:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud i swear it sits there forever:D
[06:46] <alanapost> all of these mount cdrom commands are just hanging in terminal
[06:46] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I believe you
[06:47] <slimjimflim> alanapost, type `ls /dev`
[06:47] <MasterShrek> no timsom, whats a local hard pan?
[06:47] <delwi01> ok, i'll try.. thanks
[06:47] <slimjimflim> alanapost, type `ls /dev | grep cd`
[06:47] <riotkittie> slimjimflim: no, i did not check madwifi.org, and truth be told, i have no reason to. while i appreciate your help  madwifi doesn't support usb devices and doesnt plan to
[06:47] <usr13> riotkittie: I'm sorry, but most Wireless Routers have LAN ports.  I suppose there a few don't, but I was assuming that you'd overlooked the fact that there was an available Wired port.  BUt there is also the option of sharing the connection with the other PC via internet connection sharing and a corssover cable.
[06:47] <jxxxt> is it possible to install from an iso on my hard drive as the image I burned is not working
[06:47] <coreymanshack> nickrud is there anyway i can force dpkg to forget about this?
[06:48] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, did you check the md5sum?
[06:48] <jxxxt> Mastershrek, yes and it is good
[06:48] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you can do this:  create a directory in your home directory, cd into it, and   dpkg --extract /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0<tab>   .    (don't forget the period)
[06:48] <alanapost> @slimjimflim: cdrom cdrw ptycd ttycd
[06:48] <coreymanshack> nickrud i'll try that
[06:48] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, i dont think theres a way to boot to an iso, in fact im almost positive there isnt
[06:48] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then copy over the /etc/mysql directory to your /etc , and try again
[06:48] <timsom> MasterShrek:that mean install the linux no from the cd-rom ,we can install the linux from the ISO file which is in our hard disk
[06:48] <coreymanshack> k
[06:49] <riotkittie> usr13: that computer's off most of the time, so no, that's not an option.
[06:49] <MasterShrek> timsom, like i just told jxxxt i dont think thats possible
[06:49] <alanapost> install from local iso is like... trying to read a book while it's being printed on
[06:50] <chacha_moon> ANDIKA
[06:50] <usr13> riotkittie: Ok, well, sorry.  I don't ever turn any of mine off, and I have several.
[06:50] <marx2k> you can install from an ubuntu ISO within Windows
[06:50] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Any isea on how to get an install then it just freezes at the partioner
[06:50] <jxxxt> idea
[06:50] <MasterShrek> alanapost, its more like trying to read a book thats locked in the box with the key
[06:50] <slimjimflim> alanapost type `sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom`
[06:50] <coreymanshack> nickrud what's the copy command again? :D
[06:50] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, 7.04?
[06:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack:    cp
[06:50] <jxxxt> I do not have windows
[06:51] <marx2k> coreymanshack: "cp"
[06:51] <usr13> riotkittie: And I also use an IPcop box
[06:51] <timsom> MasterShrek:oh,you means that there is one way to install the linux , install from CD-ROM?
[06:51] <coreymanshack> w00ps thx
[06:51] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Yes
[06:51] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, is it ubuntu 7.04?
[06:51] <evilxhwnd> timsom, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows scroll down to "The CD Image approach"
[06:51] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, Yes it is 7.04
[06:51] <MasterShrek> timsom, there are more ways, but generally you need linux already installed to do it
[06:51] <nickrud> coreymanshack: help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal is good reading
[06:51] <marx2k> doesnt ubuntu have a net install option?
[06:51] <alanapost> 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom' command goes nowhere.. still waiting, maybe 30 seconds so far?
[06:51] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, im not really sure, what kind of hard drive is it? ide, sata? etc
[06:51] <bruenig> alanapost, in hopes that this will be somewhat of an education channel, you might be informed that /dev/cdrom is just a symlink, it points to another file and is not actually your device file
[06:52] <usr13> riotkittie: IPcop is pretty cool.
[06:52] <bruenig> slimjimflim doesn't seem to like to impart that bit of knowledge
[06:52] <timsom> MasterShrek:Thank you,the check out the websit
[06:52] <slimjimflim> alanapost type `sudo mkdir /media/cdrom` then retry...to end a process, use ctrl-c
[06:52] <alanapost> well it is 1am i don't know how knowledge-receptive i am physically at this moment
[06:52] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I think it is a 40 ide on a acer lappie
[06:52] <alanapost> (:
[06:52] <bruenig> well he says /dev/cdrom as if that is an actual thing
[06:52] <usr13> riotkittie: and a very good security feature too.
[06:52] <bruenig> and it can be confusing
[06:53] <MasterShrek> jxxxt, it should work fine, unless theres something wrong with the hard drive...have you tried burning another copy? maybe at a slower speed?
[06:53] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok that's done
[06:53] <alanapost> @slimjimflim mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/cdrom': File exists
[06:53] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so you have the /etc/ copied over?  then sudo aptitude purge mysql-5.0-server
[06:53] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I can try that but I just that that if the checksum was ok then the thing would work :-((
[06:53] <slimjimflim> alanapost can you test the disk on a different system?
[06:54] <nickrud> coreymanshack: if all goes well, that will remove every trace of mysql server, and you can then reinstall
[06:54] <marx2k> alanapost: : try "ls /media/cdrom"
[06:54] <alanapost> yeah i have tested it on the xp desktop and it's working.. i have tried ubuntu livecd, a dvd, a music cd, and blank cdr
[06:54] <Scoreed> in the setup how long should it take to Select and Install software?
[06:54] <coreymanshack> nickrud it says i need to run dpkg --configure -a again
[06:55] <arooni> how can i make it so that the taskbar (open programs)... only shows programs that are in current virtual desktop (not across all desktops)
[06:55] <marx2k> you might also try the "-t iso9660" flag for the mount command
[06:55] <slimjimflim> alanapost ya, or maybe try `sudo mount /media/cdrom`
[06:55] <nickrud> coreymanshack: try it . I have another idea if that didn't work (and I probably should have done it first, got tunnel vision for a sec)
[06:55] <MasterShrek> arooni, gnome or kde?
[06:55] <coreymanshack> oh ok nickrud
[06:55] <usr13> riotkittie: Edimax 54 Mbps Wireless USB stick uses the RT2571 chipset and is [apparently]  compatable with Linux.
[06:55] <Scoreed> in the setup how long should it take to Select and Install software?
[06:55] <marx2k> SlimeyPete: I think that'd only work if the fstab is set up correctly
[06:55] <alanapost> just got error message via GUI: E: backuppc: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:56] <MasterShrek> arooni, u have to right click the little handle on the taskbar and go to properties
[06:56] <alanapost> oh wait that's just some background package update nm
[06:56] <arooni> thanks master_of_master
[06:56] <arooni> MasterShrek, i mean ;p
[06:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud i think it worked.
[06:56] <timsom> evilxhwnd:I have used this ways to install the linux,but it can't be done in this new hard disk
[06:56] <marx2k> my fstab: /dev/cdrom        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:56] <nickrud> coreymanshack: good.   dpkg -i --force-confmissing automates what we did by hand
[06:57] <coreymanshack> oh i see
[06:57] <timsom> evilxhwnd:it said that can't find your ISO file in local hard drive
[06:57] <marx2k> looks like /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0
[06:57] <coreymanshack> nickrud now what do i do to erase all of that cleanly and reinstall?
[06:57] <timsom> evilxhwnd:what is the problem
[06:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so many ways to do this, sometimes I do things the hard way. sudo aptitude purge <list of packages>
[06:57] <coreymanshack> nickrud lol :D ok ty
[06:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then sudo aptitude install
[06:58] <evilxhwnd> timsom, i never tried installing that way. honestly, i would just stick with the live cd or the alternative cd.
[06:58] <slimjimflim> marx2k, yea, i think she tried those both
[06:58] <coreymanshack> nickrud this removes config files and everything?
[06:59] <arghh2d2> evilxhwnd: alternative meaning the 'text install'?
[06:59] <Wooderson> corey...
[06:59] <coreymanshack> yes wooderson
[06:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes.   remove removes everything but what's in /etc (in general) and purge removes the stuff in /etc
[06:59] <evilxhwnd> arghh2d2, yea
[06:59] <Wooderson> i followed everything that thing said and i still can listen to my headphones
[06:59] <alanapost> any 'sudo mount' command i input just hangs in terminal (doesn't freeze but never completes/refreshes prompt)
[06:59] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, I have a amd64 do you think that may be a problem. Maybe I would be better burning a 32 bit iso???
[06:59] <marx2k> oh, so --purge removes all config files for the package in question?!
[06:59] <Cebulinux--> ei guys.. just wanna ask.. wat seems to be the probs y i dont have audio... im dual booting xp and ubuntu.. in xp it works but in ubuntu it wont...
[06:59] <coreymanshack> wooderson i helped you with the file management, not speakers :D
[07:00] <nickrud> it removes all 'conffiles' and nearly always that's the same thing
[07:00] <Wooderson> lol
[07:00] <Wooderson> ok well ill just google it
[07:00] <coreymanshack> ask someone here that question
[07:00] <coreymanshack> wooderson
[07:00] <coreymanshack> cause i never saw it
[07:00] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: maybe you have an onboard or windows operated soundcard?
[07:00] <coreymanshack> and i have a bit of a problem with my speakers too
[07:00] <Wooderson> not speakers headphones :D
[07:01] <coreymanshack> wooderson, do they have speakers in them?
[07:01] <timsom> evilxhwnd:oh,but thank you all the same. I must buy imprinter to do this.there is no shop sell the CD about ubuntu in my country
[07:01] <Cebulinux--> arghh2d2: im using VIA soundcard 5.1
[07:01] <jxxxt> Cebulinux, try right click the speaker icon then volume control then get rid of some little red x s
[07:01] <alanapost> good linux soundcard support site: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[07:01] <Wooderson> technically yes
[07:01] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: first make sure your speakers are plugged in
[07:01] <coreymanshack> lol :P
[07:01] <Cebulinux--> arghh2d2: last night wen i try a live cd it was ok
[07:02] <Wooderson> but i have surround sound 4 speakers, sub + my headset and everyone in my house is sleeping so i wanna listen to my headset lol
[07:02] <evilxhwnd> timsom, you don't have a cd burner?
[07:02] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: weird, i click on the x
[07:02] <coreymanshack> nickrud i tried to install the stuff with sudo apt-get install and i got an error :*(
[07:02] <arghh2d2> Cebulinux--: weird, i click on the x's and they go away
[07:02] <nickrud> coreymanshack: what's the error? (once you screw up /etc , it gets interesting ;)
[07:03] <riotkittie> usr13:  i know of a number of adapters that are compatible with linux. my own is compatible with linux.
[07:03] <coreymanshack> nickrud, yea my bad :D, i'm new to ubuntu... but i'll pastebin it.
[07:03] <timsom> evilxhwnd: en,i don't but i will buy it right now.
[07:03] <jcnorman> /q
[07:03] <timsom> evilxhwnd: Thank you
[07:03] <nickrud> coreymanshack: heh. Learning by breakage, a well traveled, honorable path
[07:03] <riotkittie> but compatible and functional, or "you can make this work without wanting to shoot yourself in the face" ... rarely go hand in hand
[07:03] <coreymanshack> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39233/
[07:04] <riotkittie> hence my question being for people with personal experience with an adapter
[07:04] <alanapost> when i browse /media via filesystem, i see my external (which is not connected), cdrom(shortcut), and cdrom (no shortcut).. all are 4kb and clicking any of them opens a blank folder
[07:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud i think its pulling the stuff from a cache?
[07:05] <alanapost> i tried menus view-->reload and nothing changes
[07:05] <coreymanshack> resulting in an error
[07:05] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo killall mysql && sudo killall mysql_safe and try again
[07:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud k
[07:05] <void> hello, I was wondering if I could switch my repositories on debian over to ubuntu repos then do a dist-upgrade would that install ubuntu?
[07:05] <jxxxt> MasterShrek, are you still at keys?
[07:06] <nickrud> coreymanshack: erm, typo:  first mysql is really mysqld
[07:06] <coreymanshack> kk
[07:06] <eck> alanapost: i think that just means they're unused mount points, 4kb is the size of an empty directory
[07:06] <Scoreed> How long should it take to install UBUNTU (!)
[07:06] <alanapost> eck: usually the points/'folders' don't display unless something's loaded/mounted/connected whatever
[07:06] <arghh2d2> how do i check to see if a drive is mounted?
[07:06] <coreymanshack> nickrud so was the second one.
[07:06] <nickrud> Scoreed: about 45 minutes is a long one
[07:07] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yeah, mysqld_safe
[07:07] <coreymanshack> nickrud now im on to trying to reinstall those packages
[07:07] <P_Kable> when will the final gusty be released ?
[07:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[07:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> :)
[07:07] <coreymanshack> nickrud no errors, lets see if it reinstalled the way i wanted it to
[07:07] <riotkittie> P_Kable: sometime in October
[07:07] <Kr0ntab> arghh2d2, from terminal, type "df -h"
[07:07] <nickrud> Scoreed: about 45 minutes; if it hangs on brltty1-x11 , add a half hour
[07:08] <riotkittie> or merely "mount", arghh2d2
[07:08] <P_Kable> ok riotkittie no specific day ?
[07:08] <riotkittie> P_Kable: not to my knowledge
[07:08] <othernick> allright so I'm going to switch my repos to ubuntu repos.
[07:08] <othernick> and see what happens
[07:08] <nickrud> P_Kable: the 18th is scheduled
[07:08] <P_Kable> ok nickrud thx
[07:08] <Scoreed> ok thnx nickrud :-)
[07:08] <nickrud> othernick: from debian ?
[07:08] <othernick> yeah
[07:09] <nickrud> lol, let us know how it goes :)
[07:09] <coreymanshack> nickrud sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:09] <coreymanshack>  * Starting web server (apache2)...                                             apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory
[07:09] <coreymanshack>                                                                          [fail] 
[07:09] <othernick> hehe, if possible
[07:09] <alanapost> is there any way for me to force xubuntu to rescan my hardware to see if it will properly recognize the cdrom again
[07:09] <gOLdenHaWK3D> P_Kable: Yes, Gutsy is scheduled to be released on 18th of this month!
[07:09] <arghh2d2> ok so if i type mount and see anything with 'ntfs' in it, that means i have a microsoft drive mounted and should be able to browse it?
[07:09] <coreymanshack> nickrud it didn't reinstall it all the way.
[07:10] <coreymanshack> nickrud is there a way to clear the cache so it will re-download it
[07:10] <sensae> Hello
[07:10] <riotkittie> arghh2d2: you may need superuser priv. to browse it, i'm not sure. but yes, if you see ntfs, its' mounted
[07:10] <xoRock> helo, i have local reposition and i use dpkg-scanpackages to create pakage.list, the problem is files are updating frequenly, is there anyway to automaticaly delete .deb file which is older than the new file while dpkg-scanpackages?
[07:11] <sensae> I'm trying to compile alsa-driver, and when I do sudo make I get hardirq.h:12: error: requested alignment is not a constant
[07:11] <arghh2d2> riotkittie: i dont understand alana's question, do you?
[07:11] <bodhizazen> Welcome overdrank :)
[07:12] <nickrud> coreymanshack: do  sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm apache2-mpm-event apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-mpm-worker apache2-utils
[07:12] <riotkittie> alanapost: nothing happens when you put a disc in? have you tried multiple CDs in case the one you tried was faulty?
[07:12] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, have you checked if there is anything weird in dmesg about your cd drive?
[07:12] <alanapost> riotkittie: i've tried cds that are working in other computers in my laptop.. they spin but do not load
[07:12] <Ghetto> Ex-Chat
[07:12] <RainDoctor> I am trying to boot from cd-rom, I am getting pxe-e71 media test failure
[07:13] <RainDoctor> after 50 % of kernel loaded
[07:13] <alanapost> this problem is very recent because xubuntu was reading cds/dvds fine, probably at least 2 days ago
[07:13] <RainDoctor> how to resolve it, gurus?
[07:13] <coreymanshack> nickrud omg before you said that i purged all of the packages i just installed, and it did that mysql thing again
[07:13] <riotkittie> alanapost: evilxhwnd is a genius. have you checked dmesg?
[07:13] <robert98374> How do you install flash in opera?
[07:13] <alanapost> what is dmesg?
[07:13] <evilxhwnd> riotkittie, your making me blush, lol
[07:13] <Scoreed> where do i install the GRUB boot loader to?
[07:14] <alanapost> oh i see your message now
[07:14] <sensae> Does anyone know the nitpicks of compiling alsa?
[07:14] <evilxhwnd> you're*
[07:14] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: on the MBR
[07:14] <MishaBear> hello
[07:14] <Scoreed> is that /dev/hda?
[07:14] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you need to move just a bit slower, I think.
[07:14] <MishaBear> need a suggestion - I am going to purchase a new notebook, but I would like to make sure the system is compatible with ubuntu before buying it
[07:15] <evyn> most are
[07:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: How many Hard disc's do you have on your pc?
[07:15] <Scoreed> 1
[07:15] <Scoreed> just 1
[07:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, open a terminal and type dmesg
[07:15] <alanapost> evilxhwnd: dmesg gives me a lot of information, is there anything specific that should be notable?
[07:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, then hit enter
[07:15] <alanapost> i also tried | tail
[07:15] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: what is the output of sudo fdisk -l ???
[07:15] <alanapost> gosh thanks
[07:15] <coreymanshack> nickrud i tried  dpkg -i --force-confmissing to undo what i did to undo what i did, and it said unknown force/refuse option 'confmissing'
[07:16] <alanapost> without someone mentioning the 'enter' key i would have been hopelessly lost all night
[07:16] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: does it say something like /dev/hda something?
[07:16] <Scoreed> what do u mean? it is my first time with ubuntu
[07:16] <nickrud> coreymanshack: its actually force-confmiss
[07:16] <robert98374> Anyone hearing me?
[07:16] <riotkittie> alanapost:  opne a term and type dmesg | grep CD
[07:16] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, do you know if /dev/cdrom is your cdrom ? on my laptop, it is /dev/sr0
[07:16] <coreymanshack> nickrud oh ok
[07:16] <nickrud> robert98374: no, but do see some text
[07:16] <alanapost> i went through this abt 20 mins ago, let me scroll and get the info again
[07:17] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Open terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:17] <robert98374> nickrud sorry its just I was on here earlier and no one responded...
[07:17] <arghh2d2> MishaBear: only notebook i ever owned was a dell pII 366 and ubuntu nailed everything first shot...only had problems getting a belkin wireless pcmcia card running
[07:17] <Scoreed> it is in the alternate install so how do i do that
[07:17] <alanapost> [17179593.572000]  cdrom: open failed.
[07:17] <nickrud> robert98374: I looked back, and I don't know how to install flash in opera :)
[07:18] <robert98374> no worries
[07:18] <GNine> on an unmodified system /dev should be straight forward
[07:18] <robert98374> Anyone else know how to install Flash in opera?
[07:18] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you installing Ubuntu right now?
[07:18] <gUo^> anybody use openwebmail?
[07:18] <Scoreed> yes
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you in Live Environment or are you installing thru Alternate Install Disc?
[07:19] <Scoreed> Alternate Install Disc
[07:19] <GNine> there are only 3 types of downloads from macromedia, riotkittie
[07:19] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, what kernel version are you using?
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Hmmm. What is the problem then?
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Install it on MBR
[07:19] <coreymanshack> ok nickrud i cant figure out how to work  dpkg -i --force-confmissing
[07:19] <arghh2d2> alternate should automate the grub process unless he had to back out of it for some reason
[07:19] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: It is /dev/hda
[07:19] <coreymanshack>  dpkg -i --force-confmiss*
[07:19] <riotkittie> i remember having looked into that at some point, and either finding a solution... orfinding that there wasnt one
[07:20] <coreymanshack> what do i need to confmiss* (btw we are back at square 1)
[07:20] <Scoreed> so what do i put in "/dev/hda"?
[07:20] <riotkittie> i *think* you have to link flash to something.
[07:20] <arghh2d2> did for me anyways
[07:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Yes
[07:20] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-5.0-server<tab>
[07:20] <riotkittie> try searching the opera forums?
[07:20] <scalawag> anyone know a channel where I can get some info on K3B
[07:20] <Scoreed> ok
[07:20] <zatusta> quit
[07:20] <GNine> !flash | robert98374
[07:20] <ubotu> robert98374: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:20] <julian> Hi
[07:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Done?
[07:21] <DerangedDingo> Hey everyone, am I supposed to have multiple instances of gcc installed? I have  gcc-4.1, gcc-4.1-base, gcc-3.3-base, gcc-2.95, and the package 'gcc' all installed. Could someone explain the different versions?
[07:21] <Scoreed> Extracting 'grub-install /dev/hda' falied
[07:21] <Scoreed> This is a fatal error
[07:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Ohhh.
[07:21] <phuzion> hey, I have a question for everyone here
[07:21] <julian> I get the following message when enter sudo -s: "administrator is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." but administrator is my only account, does anyone knows how to save my data?
[07:21] <gOLdenHaWK3D> phuzion: There is no one by the name "everyone" here!!! :P
[07:21] <coreymanshack> nickrud it isn't tabing
[07:22] <alanapost> evilxhwnd i can't remember the terminal command to output my kernal version information
[07:22] <GNine> grub installing devices.. sure sounds crazy
[07:22] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, uname -a
[07:22] <nickrud> robert98374: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser down at the bottom it has plugin problem resolution
[07:22] <othernick> julian, easy way use a livecd and burn off your data.
[07:22] <krunk-> julian: boot to single user mode and add administrator to the admin group which should be in /etc/sudoers?
[07:22] <marx2k> got a question regarding bash scriupting, if anyone has any experience with it?
[07:22] <usr13> alanapost: uname -a
[07:22] <robert98374> riotkittie lol tried their getting worked on
[07:22] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: what do i do?
[07:22] <julian> krunk-: what is the single user mode?
[07:22] <phuzion> I have a bunch of new computers coming into my possesion within the next week, varying specs.  is there a way to set up a ghost image or similar that I can just slap onto all of the computers to install the same thing for each, or Ubuntu (server mode) specific on what drivers are installed and such
[07:22] <frostburn> julian, what are you trying to do?
[07:23] <krunk-> julian: it basicaly gives you root access, a livecd would work equally well
[07:23] <julian> ah, okay thanks
[07:23] <GNine> !gcc | DerangedDingo
[07:23] <ubotu> DerangedDingo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:23] <phuzion> gOLdenHaWK3D, haha, tried to /nick everyone, and it's an erroneous nickname
[07:23] <julian> frostburn: i have no idea why i cannot use sudo
[07:23] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Try /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd
[07:23] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: can i continue with out a boot loader or should i use GRUB or LILO?
[07:23] <xcst> hey there
[07:23] <usr13> julian: kernel designated with "recovery"
[07:23] <alanapost> evilxhwnd 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Sep 24 17:18:25 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:23] <Scoreed> ok
[07:23] <krunk-> julian: boot to livecd, mount the drive, edit /etc/sudoers ensure that the ownership on sudoers is correct, reboot
[07:23] <julian> frostburn: I even do not see the synaptic packet manager
[07:23] <nickrud> coreymanshack: hm.  try this:   sudo aptitude install mysql-5.0-server   (not apt-get)
[07:23] <usr13> julian: kernel designated with "recovery-mode"
[07:23] <xcst> i need help in installing beryl?
[07:23] <arvin2212> hi guys
[07:23] <nickrud> coreymanshack: and if it fails, put up the entire error message
[07:24] <robert98374> nickrud thanks
[07:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Are you trying to dual boot? or something like that? Or do you have Ubuntu-only system?
[07:24] <julian> okay, thanks, I am going to try it
[07:24] <marx2k> ok I will just ask my bash scripting question... if I run a bash script with sudo, does that make every command in the bash script run with root access? Im guessing yes but...
[07:24] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: that failed
[07:24] <phuzion> marx2k,
[07:24] <nickrud> marx2k: yes
[07:24] <arghh2d2> phusion, there is a way to make a spec specific install disk but all your (new/old) computers have to be exactly the same i think.
[07:24] <phuzion> yes, all scripts within are run as root
[07:24] <marx2k> Hmmmmm
[07:24] <marx2k> ok
[07:24] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok that's where it hangs
[07:24] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Dont worry, you can always install Grub manually
[07:25] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if you type eject into the terminal and hit enter, what happens?
[07:25] <Scoreed> It is a old HDD (that had windows but was destroyed with virus') i am trying to put ubuntu on it
[07:25] <phuzion> is there a way to automate the install?  like, answer as american english keyboard, dhcp network, erase entire HDD, etc
[07:25] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then try sudo dpkg -r mysql-5.0-server
[07:25] <Scoreed> so i dont need grub or Lilo?
[07:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: You definately need it
[07:25] <krunk-> grub > lilo
[07:25] <arghh2d2> definitely
[07:25] <phuzion> yes, <3 grub
[07:26] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-5.0-server which isn't installed.
[07:26] <rabbitnightmare> grub is better
[07:26] <nickrud> lilo is lovely
[07:26] <othernick> all you really need is a sledgehammer and a credit card.
[07:26] <alanapost> evilxhwnd, nothing happens.. no eject, and also command hangs in terminal and i have to open a new tab
[07:26] <rabbitnightmare> but lilo works every time
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Do you know how to switch terminals?
[07:26] <Scoreed> no
[07:26] <arghh2d2> all you really need is pcp and a handgun
[07:26] <timsom> hello eveyone
[07:26] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, ctrl + c wont give you your terminal back?
[07:26] <Scoreed> me n00b lol
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Press ALT+F1 key
[07:26] <Scoreed> ok
[07:26] <arvin2212> just want to ask u guys.. im having an ati x550 graphic card. Planning to install compiz but when i update my card, i cant run the desktop effects menu...any solutions for that?
[07:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: wait...
[07:27] <alanapost> evilxhwnd, isn't ctrl c 'copy'
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> lol
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Learn how to switch back!
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> lol
[07:27] <Scoreed> nothing happens
[07:27] <nickrud> coreymanshack: the same exact error you put up earlier?
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> ctrl alt f1
[07:27] <robert98374> where's a good terminal help?
[07:27] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-5.0-server which isn't installed.
[07:27] <rabbitnightmare> then alt f7 to switch back
[07:27] <coreymanshack> when i  sudo dpkg -r mysql-5.0-server
[07:27] <nickrud> coreymanshack: sorry, I meant with the install attempt
[07:27] <Scoreed> ok
[07:27] <coreymanshack> oh
[07:27] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, not in the terminal emulator
[07:27] <coreymanshack> haven't tried to install
[07:27] <alanapost> oh
[07:27] <arghh2d2> glad i'm not into linux for the games and graphix
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Try pressing Alt+Ctrl+F2 etc
[07:27] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <arghh2d2> what a headache
[07:28] <coreymanshack> nickrud want me to install?
[07:28] <Scoreed> PLease press enter to activate this console
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: good
[07:28] <alanapost> in the emulator i just open another tab because any command relating to the cdrom (mount, eject) does not complete
[07:28] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes. sudo aptitude install mysql-5.0-server
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> hey we are getting unreal tournament 3
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> thats a good game
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: See, you got 7 terminals by default
[07:28] <othernick> someone should note that via directx microsoft has a games monopoly and do something
[07:28] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: you can switch between them using the above given key combinations
[07:28] <nickrud> 'consoles'
[07:28] <Scoreed> ok
[07:28] <timsom> hello,is there anyone who know how to install the civilization call to power in ubuntu
[07:28] <rabbitnightmare> opengl is better than direct x anyhow
[07:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Just press anything like Alt+Ctrl+F1 to F7
[07:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, ctrl + c should end that process and give you back control
[07:29] <Scoreed> ok
[07:29] <Scoreed> so now i am in it what do i do?
[07:29] <arghh2d2> othernick, its all up to the game creators i guess, money talks...
[07:29] <coreymanshack> nickrud Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "mysql-5.0-server"
[07:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Now what you just need to do is jot down on a piece of paper what I tell you
[07:29] <Scoreed> ok
[07:29] <coreymanshack> nickrud but it still has same error
[07:29] <rabbitnightmare> sudo rm / no jk dont do that
[07:29] <GNine> ha!
[07:29] <alanapost> evilxhwnd: so, in the emulator, i do ctrl + c and it's supposed to stop that command?..
[07:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, from that kernel version, you are using xubuntu edgy right?
[07:30] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yes, that is right
[07:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: when u switch to one of the terminals, type grub to enter grub menu
[07:30] <alanapost> yes
[07:30] <GNine> :-P
[07:30] <Zoiks> what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:30] <alanapost> ctrl + c has no effect on the emulator at all
[07:30] <Scoreed> ok
[07:30] <arghh2d2> does apple/macintosh have an equivelant of directx?
[07:30] <alanapost> yes
[07:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: when you are in the grub prompt, you need to type in some commands
[07:30] <rabbitnightmare> what emulator qemu or virtual box ose?
[07:30] <nickrud> coreymanshack: it's late, and I'm typoing madly:  mysql-server-5.0
[07:30] <Scoreed> ok
[07:31] <coreymanshack> oh. lol nickrud
[07:31] <usr13> alanapost: Hold Ctrl key while hitting c
[07:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: First of all you need to find out which hard dsk you need to install grub to
[07:31] <rabbitnightmare> ctrl alt for qemu and right ctrl for cirtual box ose
[07:31] <Scoreed> ok
[07:31] <usr13> (just to clarify.)
[07:31] <usr13> alanapost: and maybe try it several times in quick succession.
[07:31] <GNine> Xfce4 uses some Gconf resources.. it cannot be deleted without crashing the entire GUI
[07:31] <Scoreed> what commands
[07:32] <alanapost> usr13 i am holding ctrl and hitting c, which as far as i know is generally how i copy a line of text, but it is not doing anything in the emulator
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: or a simple way i just found out was just to type in the command grub-install
[07:32] <nickrud> wow. gconf is viral :)
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: you can try it now
[07:32] <Scoreed> ok
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: see
[07:32] <rabbitnightmare> alanapost what emulator are you using
[07:32] <usr13>  alanapost: you are running an emulator?  What process are you trying to stop?
[07:32] <Scoreed> -sh: grub-install: not found
[07:32] <alanapost> are you guys just making crap up like "push the print screen and tap the keys to the tune of yankee doodle dandy to open a new window"
[07:32] <kaushal> hi
[07:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: once you enter one of the terminals, you can come back to the current terminal using Alt+Ctrl+F
[07:33] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, i think someone mentioned this earlier, but stick in a cd, and run the command sudo umount /media/cdrom0 then try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[07:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: now try this command
[07:33] <alanapost> i am using X Terminal Emulator
[07:33] <overclucker> alanapost, ctrl-shift-c
[07:33] <Scoreed> ok
[07:33] <kaushal> I have Dell Vostro 200 with Windows Vista Home Basic Edition
[07:33] <kaushal> I want to install ubuntu 7.04
[07:33] <nickrud> alanapost: ctl-c in the terminal means 'stop the current proccess' , not copy
[07:33] <usr13> alanapost: SO it's just a terminal, (not an emulator).
[07:33] <omegabeta> Anyone know of a utility that goes through music folders and automatically assigns the "album art" covers as the folder icon?
[07:33] <kaushal> How do i install ubuntu 7.04
[07:33] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if that does not work, then i suggest upgrading to a newer kernel. it might be something with that version.
[07:33] <usr13> alanapost: What process are you trying to stop?
[07:34] <arvin2212> just want to ask u guys.. im having an ati x550 graphic card. Planning to install compiz but when i update my card, i cant run the desktop effects menu...any solutions for that?
[07:34] <alanapost> umount: /media/cdrom: not mounted (same for cdrom0)
[07:34] <kaushal> and what all precautions i should take
[07:34] <alanapost> mount cdrom = terminal hangs
[07:34] <coreymanshack> nickrud you gettin the pm's?
[07:34] <timsom> OP timsom
[07:34] <kaushal> I want to make it multi boot OS
[07:34] <alanapost> er mount /dev/cdrom alghk;a whatever
[07:34] <othernick> genbuntuhat
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: Oh, in that case, Ctrl + C will probably not work.
[07:34] <riotkittie> kaushal: you'll need to decrease the size of your windows partition to create some free space.
[07:34] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yea, i would upgrade that kernel
[07:34] <gOLdenHaWK3D> kaushal: Are you a newbie?
[07:34] <nickrud> coreymanshack: no, you have to be registered with freenode to pm
[07:34] <timsom> OP <timsom>
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: You will need to kill the mount command.
[07:34] <kaushal> yeah
[07:34] <usr13> alanapost: ps -aux |grep mount
[07:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud, oh
[07:35] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: what do i do now
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost: and then kill the process number, e.g.
[07:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: did it suceed?
[07:35] <Scoreed> i am in colsole F5
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost: kill [pid] 
[07:35] <Scoreed> no
[07:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: what is the error?
[07:35] <coreymanshack> nickrud i ran dpkg -r mysql-server-5.0
[07:35] <coreymanshack> and it removed it
[07:35] <usr13> alanapost:  Maybe even:  ps -aux |grep mount |grep cdrom
[07:35] <coreymanshack> because of the typo is why it didnt work initially
[07:35] <nickrud> coreymanshack: good. now do dpkg -r --purge mysql-server-5.0
[07:36] <Scoreed> ~ # grub-install
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost:  But you can also just close the terminal.
[07:36] <Scoreed> -sh: grub-install: not found
[07:36] <Scoreed> ~#
[07:36] <mattva01> hmm a gutsy beta install left me up shit creek , anyone know why grub error 22 would occur when the the partitions are correct?
[07:36] <GNine> memory management is crucial for a healthy OS.
[07:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: can you run grub?
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost: That would be ok, (to just close the terminal window).
[07:36] <Scoreed> how?
[07:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: same way! just type in grub this time
[07:36] <usr13> alanapost: and then just open another.
[07:36] <Scoreed> ok
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: Are you trying to access the CDROM?
[07:37] <alanapost> i have 4 mount processes running i guess
[07:37] <Scoreed> -sh: grub: not found
[07:37] <alanapost> do i need to bracket the PID
[07:37] <alanapost> when i try to kill it
[07:37] <arghh2d2> ps -aux and then just browse for it the four digit "pid" number?
[07:37] <nickrud> alanapost: sudo killall mount , kill them all at once
[07:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: uhh. its strange
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: You must have tried to mount it 4 times so far.
[07:37] <alanapost> yes that is a reasonable conclusion
[07:37] <coreymanshack> nickrud i ran a sudo dpkg --purge mysql-server-5.0 successfuly
[07:37] <usr13> alanapost: Yes, killall mount should work too
[07:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: What makes you install it manually though! Is the Ubuntu installer not automating it?
[07:38] <coreymanshack> nickrud should i also purge for the other packages?
[07:38] <Zoiks> what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: I think it must be asking for the hard disc
[07:38] <overclucker> alanapost are you sure it's cdrom, and not hda? mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 ?
[07:38] <GNine> !Xubuntu
[07:38] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:38] <nickrud> coreymanshack: ok, you now have a system clean of mysql.  next, do   aptitude search ^apache  , then aptitude purge    all the ones that have an i (for installed) in the left column
[07:38] <coreymanshack> ok sure thing
[07:39] <Scoreed> the alternate installer comes up with a fatal error when i put in the /dev thing so no it is not automated
[07:39] <alanapost> uh i have no idea why apparently my terminal does not recognize these commands but sudo killall mount didn't do anything, and every time i try to kill [pid]  (without brackets) it says the argument is not correct
[07:39] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then do the same  aptitude search ^mysql  and purge all again. Then, you should be clean
[07:39] <GNine> xubuntu is great for puter with low resources..
[07:39] <asc> kaushal: Well, the general directions will go something like this: Have at east two partitions. Have Vista on one(by shrinking it or reinstalling and making new partitions). Boot from an Ubuntu install CD and install it on the other (make sure you install vista first).
[07:39] <coreymanshack> ok nickrud
[07:39] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, you could reboot, that is easier i suppose
[07:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Does the Installer show you any list of available drives? or something like that?
[07:39] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: it says "Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard-disk"
[07:39] <Scoreed> no
[07:40] <Scoreed> just some exmaples of what to type in
[07:40] <GNine> gnome is a resource hog
[07:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Proceed with "Install Grub on Hard disc" thing
[07:40] <arghh2d2> michael eisner interviewe, what a homo
[07:40] <nickrud> flux is good for systems with low resources, xfce is a hybrid
[07:40] <rabbitnightmare> GNine you should try kde if you think gnome hogs resources
[07:40] <usr13> alanapost: kill [pid]   where [pid]  is the process ID number.
[07:40] <alanapost> 'mount /dev/hda /media/cdrom' resulted in 'you must specify the filesystem type'
[07:40] <riotkittie> is gnome is a resource hog, kde is a resource pig farm :P
[07:40] <GNine> i switched to Xubuntu for that very reason
[07:41] <gOLdenHaWK3D> KDE>Gnome>XFCE
[07:41] <usr13> alanapost: and you will need admin priviledges to do it, so the full command would be:  sudo kill ####
[07:41] <riotkittie> i always found ubuntu's implementation of xfce to be slow and painful
[07:41] <overclucker> alana, -t utf,iso9660
[07:41] <GNine> on 2 Gigs proc and 1gig RAM .. xubuntu is invincible
[07:41] <coreymanshack> nickrud dpkg: error processing apache2-mpm-prefork (--purge):
[07:41] <coreymanshack>  dependency problems - not removing
[07:41] <coreymanshack> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:41] <coreymanshack>  apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:41] <PanzerMKZ> riotkittie why?
[07:41] <Scoreed> it says: the device can be specified using GRUB's "(hdn,m) notation or as a device in /dev. Below are some examples
[07:41] <robert98374> what's an easy way to open thunar window as root?
[07:41] <garette> hi all can anyone help me in installing pidgin-libnotify plugin to my pidgin L:D
[07:41] <Scoreed> if i leave it blank it works :-)
[07:41] <evilxhwnd> robert98374, sudo thunar
[07:41] <nickrud> coreymanshack: ok, remove apache2 first
[07:41] <robert98374> evilxhwnd thanks
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: type in hd0
[07:42] <coreymanshack> k
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: did it work?
[07:42] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D Thanks for all of your help i ow have UBUNTU :-)
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: are you sure?
[07:42] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid?
[07:42] <Scoreed> It finished installation and is now restrting
[07:42] <alanapost> i have 'sudo kill ####' everything that outputs from 'ps -aux |grep mount' and they are still there every time i look
[07:42] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: wait
[07:42] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: dont reboot
[07:43] <coreymanshack> nickrud did and it still says things about dependencies
[07:43] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, reboot its simpler
[07:43] <nickrud> coreymanshack: you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed also, right? If so, uninstall that at the same time
[07:43] <Scoreed> it did it automatically
[07:43] <usr13> alanapost: and that is why Ctrl + C would not work, (to kill the mounting process), because it would require admin priviledges.
[07:43] <alanapost> i use sudo
[07:43] <coreymanshack> oh ok nickrud
[07:43] <alanapost> ??
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: write something down. just in case you cant boot, then do the following steps
[07:43] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: write down these commands
[07:43] <mattva01> hmm a gutsy beta install left me up shit creek , anyone know why grub error 22 would occur when the the partitions are correct?
[07:43] <Scoreed> ok
[07:43] <riotkittie> PanzerMKZ: i don't know. but i noticed a huuuuuge change between xubuntu and zenware's implementation of xfce.
[07:43] <usr13> alanapost: What is your question?
[07:44] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I picked that up with  apt-cache rdepends apache2-mpm-prefork. That shows what could be holding it in place. Useful tool, apt-cache
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: find /boot/grub/stage2
[07:44] <garette> Hello all can some help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin :(
[07:44] <alanapost> is using sudo to perform commands not having admin priviledges
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> ok im so sick to death of permissions for fricken mount points
[07:44] <sontek> Damnn, Ubuntu is one sexy distro
[07:44] <Scoreed> ok
[07:44] <sontek> I want to make sweet love to it
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: This will return something like (hd0,2)
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> me2
[07:44] <Scoreed> gOLdenHaWK3D: Error Loading OS
[07:44] <rabbitnightmare> a 3some would be hot
[07:44] <usr13> alanapost: sudo envokes admin priviledges for you
[07:44] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Told you
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> q is there a way to re enable su?
[07:45] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: have you rebooted?
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> as sudo for multiple things is really annoying
[07:45] <Scoreed> it did it for me :-(
[07:45] <nickrud> rabbitnightmare: sudo -i , gets you where su would
[07:45] <evilxhwnd> rabbitnightmare, sudo passwd
[07:45] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: then maybe you should activate root.
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> ahh
[07:45] <rabbitnightmare> ty
[07:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: now whats the status?
[07:46] <garette> can someone please help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin.. I am using Ubuntu Feisty Fawn :D
[07:46] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: sudo passwd root
[07:46] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Scoreed: Did you get the grub menu?
[07:46] <alanapost> i just wish nerds would stop telling me to do things and then asking me again, prefacing the request with 'sudo', like it is a hilarious joke each time ):
[07:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok done with apache
[07:46] <Scoreed> no
[07:46] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:46] <coreymanshack> nickrud onto mysql
[07:46] <usr13> alanapost: This is NOT a joke.
[07:46] <sontek> did you guys see that latest microsoft ad about "Linux not being as safe as windows" or something like that, I saw it on digg, Microsoft are a bunch of fucking douchebags
[07:46] <ubunt1> hey what i can use to transfer more than 4 gb
[07:46] <Scoreed> when no CD error loading OS when CD is in i get th install menu
[07:46] <ubunt1> ntfs?
[07:46] <usr13> alanapost: We are only trying to help you.
[07:46] <garette> !libnotify
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libnotify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <ubunt1> ext3 and why
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | sontek
[07:47] <ubotu> sontek: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:47] <ubunt1> that write that can be moved?
[07:47] <garette> !pidgin-libnotify
[07:47] <alanapost> usr13 i mean for instance "sudo make me a sandwich"
[07:47] <Scoreed> Ubunt1: an 8GB USB drive or LAN
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> sontek: (also, !offtopic)
[07:47] <ubunt1> nono
[07:47] <sontek> sorry :)
[07:47] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:47] <ubunt1> what system
[07:47] <ubunt1> what system
[07:47] <usr13> alanapost: If you want to learn and understand, ask clear questions and we will try to give you clear answers. (And don't complain about the answers.)
[07:47] <garette> Gnine: ;)
[07:47] <ubunt1> ???
[07:47] <sontek> they just make me angry
[07:48] <nurettin> hello i have got dns server problem in resolv.conf  i am editing resolv.conf, when i restarted take old value.
[07:48] <ubunt1> someone fast
[07:48] <alanapost> i do ask clear questions, but in the format of a busy IRC channel the same questions, answers, and information get repeated a lot without moving forward
[07:48] <alanapost> it is not a good problem-solving format i guess
[07:48] <Flannel>  /lastlog alanapost
[07:48] <overclucker> alanapost: sudo apt-get moo, lighten up
[07:48] <ubunt1> in fat 32 i can transfer more 4 gb
[07:48] <Scoreed> SCOREED is sick of trying and is giving up
[07:48] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, you can reboot the machine. afterwards, i suggest upgrading to feisty which has a newer kernel. cant hurt to try a newer version :)
[07:48] <garette> GNine: how do you install desktop widgets?
[07:48] <GNine> negative, all native stuff
[07:48] <ubunt1> ?
[07:48] <ubunt1> somoene
[07:48] <usr13> alanapost: And a lot of us assume that one would realize that admin privledges are needed and use sudo when they are.
[07:49] <alanapost> is the process for upgrading feisty different than the xubuntu upgrade manager? like, what does that upgrade
[07:49] <garette> GNine: ;)
[07:49] <coreymanshack> nickrud check this out... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39234/
[07:49] <ubunt1> fat32s
[07:49] <GNine> i like keeping my system as streamline as possible
[07:49] <alanapost> usr13, i am afraid i have no idea what you are talking about, because i haven't had any trouble relating to not using sudo
[07:49] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, well, you can upgrade or you can do a clean install. when i said upgrade, i really meant do a clean install.
[07:49] <garette> can someone please help me in installing libnotify plugin for pidgin
[07:49] <Flannel> alanapost: Feisty to gutsy?  You'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1 to be sure,I imagine it's the same, but the flag for dev versions might differ slightly.
[07:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack: use aptitude purge , not dpkg -r. aptitude is much smarter about it
[07:50] <alanapost> usr13, i am curious as to how a clean install might best be accomplished on my system, when i came here in the first place to find out how to fix the issue of my cdrom not functioning as expected
[07:50] <alecw1> Hello! I'm looking for an extremely simple image editing program, that will do REALLY simple things, like cropping. I just need it for taking screenshots, and cropping them and such. I don't want much bloat, GIMP is way too much for my needs. Can someone suggest an app?
[07:50] <Cebulinux--> hi guys.. do u support compiz fusion here.. coz im realy having probs.. i follow the guide from the ubuntu site.. but i cant get my cube working
[07:50] <Flannel> alanapost: OOo Draw?
[07:50] <coreymanshack> o wait i found it nickrud, there was another hidden dependicey
[07:50] <Flannel> alecw1: OOo Draw, maybe.  sorry alanapost
[07:50] <nickrud> coreymanshack: aptitude would have found it for you
[07:51] <coreymanshack> o wow
[07:51] <nickrud> coreymanshack: although, you're learning a lot doing it this way :)
[07:51] <overclucker> alanapost, cat /etc/fstab and find what device mounts on /media/cdrom
[07:51] <alecw1> Flannel, too much bloat. :)
[07:51] <coreymanshack> ok i got apache and mysql completley removed
[07:51] <nickrud> alecw1: gthumb is pretty good for simple cropping and the like
[07:52] <GNine> !compiz | Cebulinux--
[07:52] <ubotu> Cebulinux--: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:52] <alanapost> overclucker: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:52] <coreymanshack> nickrud, i got apache and mysql completley removed i think...
[07:52] <usr13>  alanapost:  A clean install is best done by booting to the Ubuntu CD
[07:52] <alecw1> nickrud: Is that already in gnome?
[07:52] <usr13> alanapost: What is wrong with your CDROM
[07:53] <coreymanshack> alecw1: yes it is
[07:53] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, in that case, try mount /dev/hdb
[07:53] <nickrud> coreymanshack: so, double check.  aptitude search ^mysql      aptitude search ^apache   aptitude search ^libmysql    aptitude search ^libapache
[07:53] <nickrud> alecw1: yes
[07:53] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok
[07:53] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0
[07:53] <usr13> alanapost: ANd what kind of CDROM is it?  e.g. CDROM or CDROM-RW or DVD or DVD/CDROM-RW combo, etc...
[07:53] <alecw1> nickrud, how do you crop images in it? :P
[07:53] <Cebulinux--> GNine:  i did follow there all the instructions but still not getting cube working.. only the switcher and expo works :(
[07:54] <xoRock> helo, i have local reposition and i use dpkg-scanpackages to create pakage.list, the problem is files are updating frequenly, is there anyway to automaticaly delete .deb file which is older than the new file while dpkg-scanpackages?
[07:54] <Flannel> xoRock: apt-get autoclean
[07:54] <alanapost> 'sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0' results in terminal hanging
[07:54] <alanapost> eject is also still hanging
[07:54] <nickrud> alecw1: select an image, and image->crop
[07:54] <riotkittie> brb. booting into gutsy because actually being able to maintain an internet connection makes me feel funny these days. ha. :x
[07:55] <BernieMac> Cebulinux--, try in the #ubuntu-effects forum, you will probably have better luck in there
[07:55] <usr13> alanapost: And have you elemiated the possibility of a hardware issue, (with the CDROM).  e.g. wrong jumper setting or bad data cable, etc.etc.
[07:55] <alecw1> nickrud, are we talking about Eye of GNOME 2.18.1
[07:55] <alecw1> ?
[07:55] <Cebulinux--> tnx BernieMac
[07:55] <nickrud> alecw1: no, gthumb . Older than eog
[07:55] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, sometimes i experience the same thing with my iwl4965 drivers for my wireless card. leading me to conclude it is a kernel related issue.
[07:55] <xoRock> Flannel, hm.. thatsn't what im looking for
[07:55] <xoRock> Flannel, thx anyway
[07:55] <nickrud> alecw1: but up to date, I've been using it for years
[07:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud it's all bye bye
[07:56] <alecw1> nickrud, it actually looks pretty cool! How do I set it as the default image viewer?
[07:56] <turffy> hi where can i find wpa_supplicant.conf in fiesty?
[07:56] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, with the driver for your cd rom drive. that is why i recommended upgrading to a newer kernel.
[07:56] <alanapost> usr13 i haven't, for instance, removed the drive from my laptop and run tests on it, but it was working completely fine until i did some foolishness in vi to try and get my wifi card working, thus messing up xserver, which works now but my cdrom is now MIA
[07:56] <nickrud> coreymanshack: then you're good to go. Reinstall :)
[07:56] <GNine> Cebulinux--, i couldnt get compiz to work on ubuntu either. not for lack of trying. but i did not try too hard either.. blah
[07:56] <coreymanshack> nickrud but i go to my /etc and i still see the apache2 folder
[07:57] <usr13> alanapost: Ok, then, tell us what output you get from command:
[07:57] <alanapost> in HAL my cdrom drive and brand etc are displaying, i thought this might mean the driver is ok, is it not a good indicator?
[07:57] <usr13> dmesg | grep CD
[07:57] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid? I dont want to boot off it, merely use it as a more secure backup
[07:57] <nickrud> alecw1: you'd right click an image file, select properties at the bottom, and open with in the dialog window. Have to do it for each image type, though
[07:57] <nickrud> coreymanshack: that's why I said to use aptitude purge . It removes those
[07:57] <usr13> alanapost: dmesg | grep CD
[07:57] <alanapost> [17179574.556000]  hdb: PHILIPS CD-RW/DVD-ROM SCB5265, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179574.688000]  hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) [17179574.688000]  Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[07:57] <alecw1> nickrud, ok, thanks a lot! :) Is a newer version coming out with gnome 2.20?
[07:58] <coreymanshack> nickrud so aptitude is superior to dpkg
[07:58] <scguy318> coreymanshack: a better front-end, dpkg is the underlying APT tool
[07:58] <usr13> alanapost: Your CDROM is a CD-RW, and it's hdb not hdc
[07:58] <nickrud> alecw1: it's not a 'gnome' app, so it's not released in sync. It's at 2.10.6 right now
[07:58] <coreymanshack> thx scguy318
[07:58] <evilxhwnd> usr13, he tried hdb earlier too
[07:58] <kaushal> I want to use the Live CD with out installing the OS How can i do it
[07:58] <nickrud> coreymanshack: yes. apt-get and aptitude manipulate dpkg for you
[07:58] <turffy> may wpa_supplicant is installed but I cant find the .conf
[07:58] <usr13> alanapost: eject /dev/hdb
[07:59] <Ademan_> does anyone know if evolution enforces any sort of maximum recipients?
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud can i delete the folders manually?
[07:59] <alecw1> nickrud, I'm at: gThumb 2.10.2. How do I upgrade?
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: eject /dev/sr0
[07:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: not recommended.
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud ok
[07:59] <scguy318> kaushal: boot it up :)
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: DO either of the above commands open the cdrom?
[07:59] <scguy318> kaushal: its not called a LiveCD if it wasn't live ;)
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud should i reinstall even though those folders are still there?
[07:59] <nickrud> coreymanshack: probably not a problem, since you don't have the packages installed, but good practice to use the tools
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: Or sudo /dev/hdb
[07:59] <usr13> alanapost: Or sudo eject /dev/hdb
[07:59] <alanapost> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/sr0'
[07:59] <coreymanshack> nickrud i will use aptitude from here on out
[08:00] <kaushal> Thanks
[08:00] <robert98374> for some reason my panel all of the sudden disappeared when I restarted, what can I do to restart it?
[08:00] <phuzion> So, is there any way to automate the install process if I'm going headless on all the machines I'm installing?
[08:00] <usr13> alanapost:sudo eject /dev/hdb
[08:00] <nickrud> coreymanshack: use the instructions I gave you in the first place: aptitude purge each of the packages you used dpkg -r on
[08:00] <phuzion> dhcp, erase entire HDD, american english keyboard, etc
[08:00] <riotkittie> yay.
[08:00] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, sr0 would be if you had cdrom drive using SCSI
[08:00] <alanapost> 'sudo eject /dev/hdb' hangs
[08:00] <scguy318> phuzion: i would imagine PXE boot, theres probably a wiki guide on that
[08:00] <coreymanshack> nickrud k
[08:00] <nickrud> coreymanshack: or apt-get, or synaptic. They all work well
[08:00] <alecw1> nickrud: How do I upgrade from gThumb 2.10.2 to 2.10.9?
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: Then you more than likely have a mounted CD in it.
[08:01] <nickrud> alecw1: install gutsy on october 18th :)
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: You will need to umount it
[08:01] <alecw1> ok, thanks again nickrud, much appreciated!
[08:01] <Aval0n-> guys my friend, can can click and play a wav file and it sound fine
[08:01] <Aval0n-> when he cats it to /dev/audoi
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: mount
[08:01] <Aval0n-> it's static
[08:01] <usr13> alanapost: the above command should show you that it is mounted [mount] 
[08:01] <Aval0n-> also when he tries watching TV via mythtv on his dvb card he gets the same static
[08:01] <voidmain2> I'm the person who was switching the repositories from debian to ubuntu and I have nearly completed the switch with minimal errors. it's working with nearly no glitches, excellent
[08:01] <Aval0n-> anyone know what might be happening?
[08:02] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:02] <Zoiks> does anyone know what is ubuntu's level of support for chipset based raid? I dont want to boot off it, merely use it as a more secure backup
[08:02] <riotkittie> voidmain2: congrats
[08:02] <niru> I have a sony laptop
[08:02] <voidmain2> :)
[08:02] <nickrud> voidmain2: congradulations, that would have been a disaster in breezy days
[08:02] <RAdams> Users no longer show up in my gdm facebrowser, using any theme, including human list. Any ideas why?
[08:02] <niru> it has network card of Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[08:02] <riotkittie> disasters <3
[08:02] <niru> my wireless connection is not detected
[08:02] <niru> what to do
[08:02] <alanapost> ok cdrom is not listed under command 'mount'
[08:02] <niru> I have installed 3 modules
[08:02] <phuzion> scguy318, thanks for the suggestion, I'll do this tomorrow
[08:02] <usr13> alanapost: Is also possible that that you have a window or file manager open showing contents of the CDROM?
[08:03] <niru> firmware-ipw3945
[08:03] <niru> ipw3945d
[08:03] <niru> ipw3945-modules-2.6.686
[08:03] <usr13> alanapost: Do you have a CD in the CD-RW drive?
[08:03] <niru> ?
[08:03] <alanapost> no all gui file managers etc (or programs that access external files) are closed
[08:03] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:03] <The_Entropy> hi everyone
[08:03] <alanapost> there is a cd in the drive, i have 1 audio, 1cdr, 1 bootable/live available as tests that are verified to work on another machine
[08:04] <GNine> !wifi
[08:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:04] <scguy318> niru: have you tried modprobing ipw3945? sudo modprobe ipw3945
[08:04] <usr13> alanapost: Is it an audo or data CD?
[08:04] <niru> scguy318, it shows segmentation fault
[08:04] <alanapost> usr13: right now, audio
[08:04] <riotkittie> nickrud: depends on how fast you can run.
[08:04] <nickrud> coreymanshack: I've gotta call it a night.
[08:05] <scguy318> niru: can you pastebin it?
[08:05] <niru> scguy318, ok
[08:05] <nickrud> riotkittie: fast enough :P
[08:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud: gnight
[08:05] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:05] <usr13> alanapost:  OK! Then, More-than-likely:  There is an application trying to play the audo CD.
[08:05] <usr13> Is this a fully updated system?
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, http://pastebin.ca/721384
[08:06] <usr13> alanapost: New install? or>...?
[08:06] <alanapost> usr13, usually a disc icon shows on my desktop before any applications try to access it
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, modprobe ipw3945d
[08:06] <niru> FATAL: Module ipw3945d not found.
[08:06] <usr13> alanapost: Well, apparently not in this case.
[08:06] <robert98374> how do I restart the panel in xubuntu?
[08:06] <niru> scguy318, but I have installed those
[08:06] <alanapost> usr13, the install is 2 weeks old, packages installed mainly relating to codecs
[08:06] <asc> robert98374: try running xfce4-panel
[08:07] <scguy318> niru: sudo modprobe ipw3945, not ipw3945d
[08:07] <usr13> alanapost: Fully updated?
[08:07] <sylverfox> hi all
[08:07] <robert98374> asc that's the command?
[08:07] <niru> scguy318, I have pasted the link
[08:07] <scguy318> niru: and pastebin.ca is lagging :( try the Ubuntu pastebin?
[08:07] <asc> 'xfce4-panel'
[08:07] <CoasterMaster> Is there a way to print PDF documents 4 to a page?
[08:07] <niru> scguy318, http://pastebin.ca/721384
[08:07] <alanapost> usr13, i don't know, when i go to system --> update manager --> it says fully up to date
[08:07] <sylverfox> how can I unmount a partition and mount it somewhere else?
[08:07] <Aval0n-> guys what sound device does ubuntu use? when I cat a wav file to /dev/audio I get static, but clicking on the same wav file on the deskop it plays fine... anyone?
[08:08] <scguy318> sylvertfox: sudo umount /mnt/point, then sudo mount /dev/here /mnt/point/here
[08:08] <robert98374> asc so it started it back up but when I closed the terminal it also closed
[08:08] <Meglo> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/audio
[08:08] <Exposure> Aval0n-: /dev/dsp?
[08:08] <niru> scguy318, ?
[08:08] <Aval0n-> hmm
[08:08] <usr13> alanapost: Can you push the button on the CD-RW drive and open it?
[08:08] <scguy318> Aval0n-: why cat a wav? they're not exactly raw audio data
[08:08] <Aval0n-> yeah
[08:08] <alanapost> usr13 yes i can eject via the tray's button
[08:08] <asc> robert98374: Because it was running on the terminal. You can either run it from a run program dialog, or run it from a screen session and then detach the session.
[08:08] <Aval0n-> I'm trying to troubleshoot why his hdtv wonder just gives static for sound via myth
[08:09] <scguy318> niru: what Ubuntu are you using?
[08:09] <Meglo> What exactly is raw audio data and ready to be cat'd to /dev/dsp?
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: Ok, then.  What is the problem?
[08:09] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, sudo umount /dev/devicename, them sudo mount /dev/devicename -t filesystemtype /new/pace/to/mount
[08:09] <niru> scguy318, edgy
[08:09] <alanapost> usr13, none of the inserted media mount, play, can be browsed, indexed, or anything at all
[08:09] <robert98374> asc what would stop it from starting at start up?
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: Oh, here is the problem:  You were trying to mount an AUDIO CD.
[08:09] <usr13> alanapost: You will not be able to mount an audo CD
[08:09] <weltschmerz> anyone else having hibernation problems lately?
[08:09] <alanapost> previously i was trying to mount an ubuntu cd
[08:10] <riotkittie> alanapost: is this a dual boot system?
[08:10] <alanapost> no
[08:10] <usr13> alanapost: YOu can rip but not mount.
[08:10] <usr13> Ok?
[08:10] <scguy318> niru: mm I see
[08:10] <scguy318> niru: and you say you have installed the ipw3945 packages?
[08:10] <alanapost> i can't rip, if i open a cd ripping program it says no media inserted
[08:10] <riotkittie> alanapost: can your CD drive be removed from your laptop? if so, have you tried reseating it?
[08:10] <niru> scguy318, yes
[08:10] <alanapost> if i put in a dvd and open vlan, it says insert something first
[08:10] <The_Entropy> I am connected to the internet through my university WAN. I am currently tunneling my connection using openVPN. However, ubuntu keeps replacing the dns server of the tunnel with the one from the wireless network every 1min or so. is there a way to stop this?
[08:10] <asc> robert98374: Dunno. If it wasn't in the programs run when the session started, but I don't know if those are configurable
[08:10] <usr13> alanapost: If you want to mount a CD, place a data CD in, (not an audio CD).
[08:10] <alanapost> i guess i could remove the cd drive
[08:11] <riotkittie> wait. never mind. if you can eject, thats probably not the issue
[08:11] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, if you reboot with the live cd, does it give you the options menu?
[08:11] <alanapost> no, it ignores the cd drive on boot
[08:11] <alanapost> which is my main problem
[08:11] <alanapost> because i would just do a clean reinstall
[08:11] <overcluckerer> hiya
[08:11] <robert98374> asc I forgot what the command to keep it running after I close the the terminal
[08:11] <usr13> alanapost: Yes, if you but in a DVD, you will need video software to run the DVD movie.
[08:11] <riotkittie> robert98374: command &
[08:11] <alanapost> and yes already the bios is set to boot from cd before hd
[08:12] <alanapost> ugh i have been watching dvds on this exact laptop with the same xubuntu install 4 days ago
[08:12] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, is this a desktop?
[08:12] <scguy318> niru: do you have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed?
[08:12] <asc> riotkittie: Doesn't that just put it in the background?
[08:12] <scguy318> niru: a Launchpad suggestion, and did you do sudo modprobe ipw3945?
[08:12] <robert98374> riotkittie so it would be &xfce4-panel?
[08:12] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, you can either umount /dev/hda2, or /media/hda2
[08:12] <usr13> alanapost: If you watched a DVD 4 days ago, you should also be able to today.
[08:12] <alanapost> yes thanks i agree with you on that point
[08:13] <bluebanana> how can i type in Japanese on my ubuntu?
[08:13] <Aval0n-> can anyone tell me a wav player for command line?
[08:13] <niru> scguy318, let me check and I did modprob ipw3945 too
[08:13] <riotkittie> asc: oops
[08:13] <bluebanana> Aval0n-, mplayer
[08:13] <asc> Aval0n-: mplayer
[08:13] <bluebanana> asc, i beat you
[08:13] <usr13> alanapost: Unless you have un-installed some software that is needed to play the particular media files that you are trying to play now.
[08:13] <alanapost> i don't even care what media plays, as long as the cdrom drive functions in any way shape or form
[08:13] <riotkittie> robert98374: xfce4-panel & wont work if youre going to close th eterm
[08:13] <usr13> Aval0n-: play
[08:13] <Aval0n-> thnc
[08:13] <scguy318> niru: did you prefix sudo, or are you root?
[08:13] <riotkittie> the term*
[08:13] <alanapost> if it can't even be booted from, i am not too upset about failure to play mp3s
[08:14] <asc> bluebanana: Not on my screen you didn't
[08:14] <niru> scguy318, I am root
[08:14] <scguy318> niru: kk
[08:14] <asc> grr >:)
[08:14] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, so this is a laptop? if soo, its not a removable cd drive is it?
[08:14] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, well almost, you need to have the first one be /dev/hda2
[08:14] <alanapost> it's a laptop but with screwdrivers i find anything can be removed these days
[08:14] <riotkittie> alanapost: how old is this laptop?  if you cant even boot from the drive,  i have to wonder if perhaps its given up the ghost
[08:14] <asc> robert98374: I'm looking for a run program dialog in xfce...
[08:15] <robert98374> asc thanks
[08:15] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, lol, yes
[08:15] <alanapost> it's 2 years old and i booted from the drive to install xubuntu in the first place 2 weeks ago
[08:15] <alecw1> When is Ubuntu Gusty stable enough to download? I mean, there must be sometime before the official release date that the OS is stable enough to safely upgrade, right?
[08:15] <riotkittie> or maybe a wire just got jogged
[08:15] <overcluckerer> sylverfox, /media isn't where the devices actually are, just where they are mounted
[08:15] <riotkittie> two weeks is two weeks. i've seen hardware die in that period.
[08:15] <scguy318> alecw1: October 18, just wait :)
[08:16] <usr13> riotkittie: He may not be able to boot from it simply because it is not set as first boot device in BIOS.
[08:16] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, when you first start your computer, does it tell you you can press a key to specify what to boot off of?
[08:16] <alanapost> oh my god guys
[08:16] <alanapost> i'm sorry but
[08:16] <riotkittie> usr13: alanapost has stated they have changed the boot order properly, i believe
[08:16] <alanapost> i have answered the bios question so many times and even being asked in the first place is like, computers 101
[08:16] <smashcrab> alecw1 - I found tribe5 was stable enough for use on a dozen diff pc's for a while now .. but may as well just wait a little longer for the offiial release
[08:16] <riotkittie> then again, i havent really been following the convo
[08:16] <alecw1> scguy318: no! I'm too impatient. It's not like October 18 is the day it FINALLY becomes stable...
[08:16] <riotkittie> but i seem to recall him/her having stated that :P
[08:17] <scguy318> alecw1: the Gutsy release schedule page on Ubuntu Wiki may help you decide when its stable enough :)
[08:17] <asc> Does anybody know how to start xfce's run program dialog? :p
[08:17] <alecw1> smashcrab: I want to upgrade from Fiesty, is it stable enough for that? To preserve my apps and data?
[08:17] <alanapost> my primary source of puzzlement, bewilderment if you will, is to why this cd drive spins and so forth, shows up in device manager, is a boot option in BIOS, but is passed over in boot sequence
[08:17] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, can you press a key to choose what to boot off of? and who makes that laptop?
[08:17] <overcluckerer> sylver mkdir sudo mkdir /home/hda2 && mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /home/hda2
[08:17] <usr13> riotkittie: Well, for some time now, he has been tryint to mount an audio CD
[08:17] <smashcrab> I wouldnt wanna guess, I only did clean installs
[08:18] <usr13> riotkittie: We overlooked the fact that he may not have a data CD in the device so...
[08:18] <alanapost> usr13, you are the most useless person i have ever had the misfortune to try and communicate with, and i hope to god you have asperger's because otherwise there is no excuse
[08:18] <usr13> in the first place..
[08:18] <scguy318> alanapost: did you burn it as an image? sorry if you've already answered
[08:18] <pillowpants> can anyone here recommend the easiest way to setup a file server
[08:18] <riotkittie> this is what i have seen in my failure to pay attention > cd can't be booted from, drive does not automount, and regardless of the type of disc, there is no data to be seen
[08:18] <pillowpants> nfs, samba, or other
[08:18] <usr13> alanapost: Thank you very much.  :)
[08:18] <alanapost> die in a fire
[08:18] <riotkittie> usr13:  you make my head hurt, you really do.
[08:19] <usr13> alanapost: I suppose none of the information I gave you has helped any?
[08:19] <riotkittie> alanapost: that wasnt nice. tsk tsk .
[08:19] <Crozar> i cant beleive im connected
[08:19] <alanapost> no, it has been repetitive noncomprehending nonsense
[08:19] <denmax> usr13 -  u still here :D
[08:19] <Crozar> can some1 see my chat
[08:19] <asc> robert98374: Well, okay. 'sudo apt-get install screen', 'screen', press enter to get past the intro, then run 'xfce4-panel', hit 'control-a-d' to detach screen, and then you can close the terminal. There is a better way to do it, of course.
[08:19] <riotkittie> Crozar: yes
[08:19] <usr13> denmax: Yes?
[08:19] <Crozar> heelppppppppppppppPPP!!!!
[08:19] <scguy318> alanapost: what's the original problem? ive totally missed out on the original question
[08:19] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, can you press a key to choose what to boot off of? and who makes that laptop?
[08:19] <Crozar> its a miracle
[08:19] <alanapost> i have had better tech support from Dell India
[08:19] <scguy318> Crozar: i cant see your chat Crozar ;)
[08:19] <usr13> riotkittie: Thanks for the nice words.
[08:19] <scguy318> alanapost: what's the original problem? ive totally missed out on the original question
[08:19] <riotkittie> alanapost: as i've said, i havent really been following the chat as i was helping two people in PMs. did you do the dmesg thing?
[08:19] <usr13> I'm only trying to help.
[08:20] <alanapost> press a key to choose what to boot off of.. (?) like, when the system's loading? i can choose which kernal (normal/recovery)?
[08:20] <robert98374> asc wow, I hopr I don't have to do that everytime I restart
[08:20] <riotkittie> usr13: trying to help is one thing, and i'm really not trying to be mean here, but you dont seem to be attention to what the people you're trying to help are saying/have said, and then you seem to
[08:20] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, no, like on my laptop i can press F11 while the BIOS splash screen shows and i can choose to boot off my hardrive, cd drive or network, etc
[08:20] <riotkittie> launch into tangents that are so totally not related
[08:21] <denmax> I am still unable to connect to the internet. for some reason, ubuntu is not able to connect to my router, or even get an ipaddress from the router. i have tried both static / dhcp :(
[08:21] <asc> robert98374: You shouldn't have to, but I'm failing to find the run program thing
[08:21] <alanapost> i can press F2 to get to BIOS settings, but i don't get to manually select a boot source each time i start the system (unless i haven't enabled some setting)
[08:21] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, overriding whatever order is set in the bios
[08:21] <asc> robert98374: There should also be a way to configure which programs run on boot, but I don't know where to find that either. I've never actually used xfce.
[08:21] <Crozar> guys please listen up , this is a strange problem i had this problem with ubuntu edgy and i havent solved it i didnt try to go deep in the matter but now i did with gusty i still havent found the problem but suddenly my irc is connected this internet problem it wasnt working i could ping websites but cant connect to sites i could see my network but when using firefox irc or kopete it keeps saying connecting then suddenly unable to connect so
[08:21] <Crozar>  i did put my ubuntu7 feisty live cd because only feisty didnt give me any problems
[08:21] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, who makes that laptop?
[08:21] <alanapost> gateway
[08:22] <robert98374> asc yeah I am running into the same issue
[08:22] <alanapost> it is junk but it's been working and i'm maybe 95% sure it's not the hardware
[08:22] <Crozar> LOL still i cant connect to firefox
[08:23] <Crozar> only irc is working
[08:23] <usr13> riotkittie: The only way you can help someone is to get detailed information from them about what they are trying to do.  YOu don't seem to understand that fact.  SOrry but like I said; I am only trying to help.
[08:23] <alanapost> i think that if i could do a fresh install the problem would resolve but without being able to boot from cd i am not sure how to go about it without creating more problems
[08:23] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, what model?
[08:23] <alanapost> mx6123
[08:23] <usr13> alanapost: I don't think you need to re-install.
[08:23] <alanapost> crozar it is probably your dns
[08:23] <denmax> hey guys, a little help here please.
[08:23] <usr13> alanapost: Just fix the issues you have .
[08:24] <riotkittie> usr13: i do seem to understand that fact, but let's be honest. i wasnt following the conversation nor trying to assist them, but even i was aware that they'd repeatedly stated they'd changed the boot order in BIOS
[08:24] <scguy318> !install | alanapost
[08:24] <ubotu> alanapost: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:24] <asc> robert98374: Hah, might have found it.
[08:24] <scguy318> alanapost: if you haven't already seen that
[08:24] <Crozar> alanapost pm me il send u the whole study of my network
[08:24] <scguy318> alanapost: there are ways to install without CD
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/Gateway/M280/1008547faq20.shtml
[08:24] <alanapost> hahaha
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, that lets you choose what to boot off
[08:24] <robert98374> asc kewl
[08:24] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, press F10
[08:24] <Crozar> alanapost: i have everything u need trust me on a simple view
[08:24] <sylverfox> I could not manage with the mounting
[08:24] <riotkittie> and i was aware of the issue. again, not following the conversation, i knew it had nothing to do not with trying to mount an audio CD but the fact that CDs werent recognized at all
[08:24] <sylverfox> i could umount the partition
[08:25] <sylverfox> but could not mount it
[08:25] <sylverfox> :-(
[08:25] <RAdams> Is there anything similar to Apple's "Dock" besides kicker?
[08:25] <usr13> riotkittie: Sorry, but I missed that detail.  But Sure glad you didn't :)
[08:25] <asc> robert98374: Run 'xfce4-autostart-editor'. Click add. Put in a name and, for the command, 'xfce4-panel'
[08:25] <Cebulinux--> i have the beta of gutsy.. is it safe to update using it?
[08:25] <overclucker> sylver show me what you did to mount it
[08:25] <asc> robert98374: This may or may not work, but it's probably the best bet right now.
[08:25] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, so while you see the bios splash screen, press f10 then choose cd rom from the little menu and that should boot off the cd
[08:25] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:25] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:25] <riotkittie> RAdams: i believve there's kiba dock
[08:25] <ubunt1> nono
[08:26] <ubunt1> all hardisk go
[08:26] <sylverfox> sudo mount /dev/hda2 ext3 /home/szacsvdm/Raktar2
[08:26] <ubunt1> what is this
[08:26] <alanapost> my BIOS settings are totally fine, they're actually set to look at the HD even later than the original settings (which were probably fine anyway, i mean i probably will never have to netboot)
[08:26] <ubunt1> when i open the hard disk it is coming
[08:26] <overclucker> sylver, -t goes right after mount
[08:26] <scguy318> ubuntu1: thats the raw data on your hard disk...
[08:26] <Cebulinux--> or how can i upgrade to 7.10
[08:26] <sylverfox> the current mounting point is /home/family/Raktar2
[08:26] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, yes, however this bypasses those settings
[08:26] <overclucker> mount -t ext3
[08:26] <ubunt1> what
[08:26] <overclucker> mount -t ext3 /dev/.....
[08:26] <rabbitnightmare> if i copy all of my music as root will i be able to access them on another distribution?
[08:26] <ubunt1> i have fat32
[08:26] <scguy318> Cebulinux--: the Gutsy release notes should have a discussion of how to upgrade
[08:26] <alanapost> so is this something other than bios settings, or is it hitting enter when selecting cdrom within bios boot order menu?
[08:26] <ubunt1> scguy318:  hey
[08:27] <scguy318> Cebulinux--: dist-upgrade is a huge nono I think
[08:27] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restrore the information?
[08:27] <rabbitnightmare> to another hard drive
[08:27] <scguy318> ubuntu1: what do you mean?
[08:27] <ubunt1> all things that i have in this hard disk is that &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:27] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:27] <usr13> alanapost: Try excluding the HD altogether (from boot sequence).
[08:27] <robert98374> asc thanks ill try it out in the morning
[08:27] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, this is a way to specify what to boot off of without entering the bios and messing with the order. whatever option you choose to boot off of in this menu is where your machine will look for an operating system i.e the cd drive.
[08:27] <scguy318> ubuntu1: how are you viewing this information?
[08:28] <alanapost> usr13, my bios boot order menu doesn't let me remove items, only change the order they appear in
[08:28] <overclucker> sylverfox, i think i had a moment of dyslexia, and told it to you wrong before, sorry
[08:28] <asc> rabbitnightmare: You'll be able to read it certainly. If you want to do other things, you might need to chown it, since that will change the owner to 'root'
[08:28] <asc> robert98374: Kay. Good luck.
[08:28] <ubunt1> open the hard disk and i see it
[08:28] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, are you on the laptop now?
[08:28] <sylverfox> overluckerer: it works now
[08:28] <themoebius> hey guys I'm having a problem with my hard drive. its saying it can't mount it because it can't read the superblock. I have the same problem in windows. But it does know the correct name of the drive. Is there any hope of recovering it?
[08:28] <sylverfox> but will this work after restarting the computer?
[08:28] <ubunt1> /media/hardisk-3 too show it &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:28] <ubunt1> &.&        1&.3&        &.&    &.&
[08:28] <ubunt1> nonoi
[08:28] <usr13> alanapost: If you have a bootable CD and the CDROM is first in the boot sequence order and your hardware is OK, it should boot to the CD.
[08:28] <alanapost> i'll try rebooting and pressing F10 to access this other boot menu, but i don't see the screen the gateway.com doc refers to, so i'm not sure if it's going to have effect..
[08:28] <overclucker> sylverfox, nope, but i can help with that
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restore it.
[08:29] <Supaplex> how do I get a refund for vista from HP? I've never used it but they're being a pill. :-/
[08:29] <scguy318> ubuntu1: your file system seems to be seriously messed up, what did you do recently? i advise testdisk for data recovery
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to restore.
[08:29] <rabbitnightmare> ty asc
[08:29] <scguy318> ubuntu1: is that your directory listing? if so...ouch
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318:  hwo to test it
[08:29] <riotkittie> Supaplex: you can contact them, and ask if they'll provide a refund... but not all of them will
[08:29] <overclucker> sylverfox, gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[08:29] <scguy318> !testdisk
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <scguy318> bah
[08:29] <evilxhwnd> alanapost, i would hope so, since the documentation claims it. if not, i think gateway deserves a call to explain this one
[08:29] <scguy318> um moment
[08:29] <usr13> alanapost: Some laptops use the Esc key to bring up boot menu.
[08:29] <riotkittie> Supaplex: oh wait, you've already done that
[08:29] <ubunt1> scguy318: ???
[08:30] <overclucker> sylverfox, thais controls what mounts on boot, and boot order
[08:30] <denmax> i m having a bit of a trouble with my ethernet card, trying to access the internet from ubuntu. any idea where do i start troubleshooting from ?
[08:30] <overclucker> s/order/priority
[08:30] <scguy318> ubunt1: gimme a moment so I can point you to a guide
[08:30] <scguy318> ubunt1: is what you're showing me a directory listing?
[08:30] <ubunt1> ?
[08:31] <Supaplex> riotkittie: yeah. I thought they had to comply with the 1999 MSFT vs NY civil antitrust ruling.
[08:31] <alanapost> usr13 my lack of linux kung fu shouldn't keep indicating that 1. i think i can boot from an audio cd; 2. i don't understand what boot orders indicate 3. i am not aware of sudo 4. whatever else keeps coming up that seems incredibly ridiculous
[08:31] <ubunt1> it is files and directory too
[08:31] <scguy318> ubuntu1: on second thought
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: if you type reset in the terminal
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: and do ls, is the display a-ok?
[08:31] <ubunt1> what will happend?
[08:31] <overclucker> sylverfox, do you see the line in fstab that has /media/hda2 in it?
[08:31] <scguy318> ubunt1: maybe your terminal font is messed up, do reset then ls?
[08:32] <ubunt1> nautilus too show it
[08:32] <a-stray-ca1> if i try to record something with my mic i get "arecord: set_params:909: Channels count non available"
[08:32] <sylverfox> yes
[08:32] <scguy318> ubunt1: mm ouch, ya testdisk
[08:32] <alanapost> anyway thanks for your help guys with the sad exclusion of usr13, of whom i can only say if i did tech support like that for the windows users at my work i would be out of a job quite rapidly
[08:32] <a-stray-ca1> how would i go about figuring out whats wrong :/
[08:32] <ubunt1> how to test it
[08:32] <ubunt1> how to test it
[08:32] <riotkittie> Supaplex: i'm not sure of that myself. try contacting spitzer's office and seeing what they say. wait, he's not the AG any more. uhm. contact the AG'S office and see what they say? :P
[08:33] <overclucker> sylverfox, post it
[08:33] <evilxhwnd> lol
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:33] <a-stray-ca1> starting using this: arecord -f cd -D hw:1,0 -d 20 test.wav, have a usb mic as card 1, device 0
[08:33] <ubunt1> i can't unmount it An application is preventing the volume from being unmounted.
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: what did you do recently?
[08:33] <ubunt1> gnome part
[08:33] <ubunt1> but it work
[08:33] <ubunt1> then i install oblivion with cxoffice
[08:33] <scguy318> ubunt1: what were you doing in GPartEd?
[08:33] <sylverfox> # /dev/hda2
[08:34] <sylverfox> UUID=507d5276-54cd-4ea0-a451-9286e066a012 /home/family/Raktar2 ext3    defaults        0       2
[08:34] <Supaplex> riotkittie: good idea. it's too bad ubuntu doesn't have any difinitive information regarding this issue on their site. *shrug* maybe it's too dirty to get involved with. :-d
[08:34] <ubunt1> then i install oblivion with cxoffice
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: what were you doing in GPartEd?
[08:34] <sylverfox> in the past i tried to change simpli the path but it didn't work
[08:34] <ubunt1> nothing only to make ext3,but then i restore it
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: restore what?
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: i really need specifics here, and look at the link I gave you
[08:34] <scguy318> ubunt1: you really should use a LiveCD to recover data
[08:35] <scguy318> ubunt1: your data looks to be in a bit of doo-doo
[08:35] <ubunt1> is that what the link write
[08:35] <ubunt1> what mena doo-doo
[08:35] <riotkittie> Supaplex: take the easy route and just put the disc up for bid on eBay :P  or is it one of those stupid recovery CDs?
[08:35] <darkchr0n0s> which live CD has ntfs support... knoppix ?
[08:35] <a-stray-ca1> anyone have any idea? :(
[08:35] <Supaplex> riotkittie: worse. it's a recovery partition, and I formatted it already.
[08:35] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: Ubuntu does, if you install ntfs-3g
[08:36] <overclucker> sylverfox, for human readabilty, i suggest you replace it with :
[08:36] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: if slax doesn't, there's probably a module that can be added to enable it
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: your data is in serious trouble
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: please read the link
[08:36] <awake> Hi people, what do u suggest to make a complete backup of my pc?
[08:36] <darkchr0n0s> hmm.. thanks
[08:36] <ubunt1> scguy318: and if i restart the computer
[08:36] <ubunt1> this program on the website are wrong
[08:36] <Supaplex> riotkittie: hummm technically the licence is non-transferable or some bs like that, but maybe that doesn't apply to me if I haven't even booted it. (vista never booted in my hands)
[08:36] <overclucker> sylverfox, /dev/hda2 /home/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[08:36] <scguy318> ubunt1: what program? what website?
[08:36] <riotkittie> Supaplex: oh yea, i forgot theyre being super cheap and just putting it all on partitions now. in that case, forget any chance of a refund, sorry :|
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: all I can tell you is that your data is probably lost or corrupt, I dunno what you did recently, you weren't specific about that
[08:37] <darkchr0n0s> awake:  what u mean by complete backup.. u want OS and configs too ?
[08:37] <ubunt1> i don't want to save the files that i have on the disk and then again to restore
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: so, read the link I gave you
[08:37] <ubunt1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[08:37] <ubunt1> i read it
[08:37] <ubunt1> why is there no program like scandisk?
[08:37] <pLr> is there alot of server tutorials w/ ubuntu?
[08:37] <sylverfox> overclucker: sould i simply cut out the UUID?
[08:37] <scguy318> ubunt1: because the Linux equivalent is fsck, and that's NOT what we need rght now
[08:37] <riotkittie> there is a program like scandisk. fsck.
[08:38] <scguy318> ubunt1: your partition seems to be seriously screwed up, you need to get to a LiveCD and start the recovery process
[08:38] <riotkittie> and as scguy318 said, its not what you need right now :P
[08:38] <ubunt1> scguy318: the problem is that
[08:38] <arvin2212> hey guys
[08:38] <overclucker> sylverfox, yeah you can remove that whoel lineand replace it with what i gave you
[08:38] <scguy318> if y'all have any good tips, fill ubunt1 in
[08:38] <arvin2212> anyone knows a good way to install compiz with an ati video card?
[08:38] <overclucker> sylverfox, /dev/hda2 /home/hda2 ext3 defaults 0 0
[08:38] <ubunt1> scguy318:  and if restart the computer ?
[08:39] <darkchr0n0s> !effects
[08:39] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <scguy318> ubunt1: what do you mean?
[08:39] <darkchr0n0s> !effects > arvin2212
[08:39] <sylverfox> ok
[08:39] <sylverfox> let's see if it works
[08:39] <sylverfox> just one more question
[08:39] <arvin2212> thanks
[08:39] <riotkittie> arvin2212: yes, step one is realizing that ATI cards are miserable. step two is replacing it.  alternately, just wait til gutsy is released.
[08:39] <overclucker> mkay\
[08:39] <sylverfox> i see here a Floppy drive
[08:39] <sylverfox> but i don't have one
[08:39] <overclucker> fd?
[08:39] <ubunt1> scguy318:  maybe that restart could help
[08:39] <sylverfox> should i simpli remove thet line?
[08:40] <pLr> can ubuntu run dhcp nat? are there tutorials available? if so on which distro????
[08:40] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie:  ATi is a pain, but it works, somehow
[08:40] <scguy318> ubunt1: you could try, I guess, but based on what you told me, your data seems to be in trouble
[08:40] <arvin2212> lol..i dont have enuf funds to replaceit
[08:40] <arvin2212> :D
[08:40] <usr13> pLr: Yes ubuntu can run dhcp and nat
[08:40] <overclucker> sylverfox, if you want, shouldn't pose a problem
[08:40] <sylverfox> grate
[08:40] <ubunt1> hmmm
[08:40] <usr13> pLr: man dhcpd  man iptables
[08:40] <sylverfox> UUID?
[08:40] <sylverfox> what is that?
[08:40] <miyaka> join #twisted
[08:41] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: i've never had success  :P  but yea,  plenty have accomplished it
[08:41] <scguy318> sylverfox: its a unique identifier for a partition
[08:41] <pLr> usr13: which version is most stable for that w/ qos & monitoring..
[08:41] <brad016> Is there any text-to-speech app that comes with ubuntu?
[08:41] <scguy318> sylverfox: because device names can change
[08:41] <sylverfox> it isn't a problem if I take that out from every partition?
[08:41] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie:  i am using compiz on ATi mobitity Radeon x2300 :D
[08:41] <usr13> pLr: Please rephrase your question.
[08:41] <overclucker> sylverfox, disk label, that way you can move the disk, and still have it boot
[08:41] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: i've got it running on gutsy. yay for preinstallation.   :x
[08:42] <arvin2212> hmm darkchr0n0s did u install any drivers for ur ati card?
[08:42] <riotkittie> i need a new gfx card, tho. i have an x300 <weep>
[08:42] <pLr> usr13: which release is most stable for that w/ qos & monitoring..
[08:42] <usr13> pLr: Are you wanting to build a router?
[08:42] <overclucker> sylverfox, you might want to keep it for root
[08:42] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  ATi drivers from ati.amd.com
[08:42] <pLr> usr13: yes w/ qos for voip
[08:42] <usr13> qos?
[08:42] <sylverfox> overclucker: for the root partition?
[08:42] <ferronica> openoffice.org word wont print in black
[08:42] <sylverfox> i don't have one separatly
[08:42] <arvin2212> thank you very much darkchr0n0s
[08:43] <Tom47> brad016 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[08:43] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  it's not that easy :P
[08:43] <usr13> pLr: So you are wanting to build a NAT router?
[08:43] <overclucker> sylverfox, uuidblahblah / ext3 blah
[08:43] <sylverfox> just hda1 to hda3 and swap and cdrom0 to cdrom1
[08:43] <arvin2212> but im abit afraid that if i update my driver then i wouldnt be able to access the desktop effects window as what i've done previously
[08:43] <sylverfox> ok
[08:43] <arvin2212> right now am using a freshly installed ubuntu
[08:43] <sylverfox> i got it now
[08:43] <sylverfox> thanks
[08:43] <overclucker> mkay
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  i suggest wait for 7.10
[08:44] <sylverfox> i save it now and try to rebbot
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  about 10-15 days
[08:44] <arvin2212> hmm
[08:44] <arvin2212> :D
[08:44] <arvin2212> whats new in 7.10/
[08:44] <pLr> usr13: yes w/ qos for voip
[08:44] <usr13> pLr: I would suggest a distro like IPcop
[08:44] <iceslice> How do I clear my Nautilus trash can without deleting the fiels?
[08:44] <iceslice> er, files
[08:44] <arvin2212> whats new in 7.10?*
[08:44] <scguy318> ubunt1: okay, a question for you: eres de Espana?
[08:44] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  compiz-fusion preinstalled
[08:44] <overclucker> sylverfox, if you move the disk to another bus, or to a different compy, uuid lets you without it having to be explicitly hda1
[08:44] <scguy318> ubunt1: your IP address seems to suggest that you are from Spain
[08:44] <arvin2212> ahh
[08:45] <pLr> usr13: someone told me pfsense is IPcop better/
[08:45] <arvin2212> hthat would be so nice
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> arvin2212:  if luck might work out of box
[08:45] <arvin2212> :D
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> lucky*
[08:45] <arvin2212> well let's keep our fingers crossed
[08:45] <sylverfox> ok overclucker
[08:45] <sylverfox> thanks
[08:45] <ubunt1> scguy318:  yes hwy
[08:45] <usr13> pLr: see: ipcop.org
[08:45] <overclucker> no prob
[08:45] <sylverfox> i will reboot now and see whats happening
[08:45] <darkchr0n0s> nice torrent speeds :D
[08:46] <scguy318> !es | ubunt1
[08:46] <ubotu> ubunt1: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <darkchr0n0s> espanol
[08:46] <scguy318> ubunt1: perhaps you may be better served there, I'm sure a language barrier isn't fun to deal with along with a computer problem :(
[08:46] <ubunt1> !es | scguy318
[08:46] <ubotu> scguy318: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:46] <ubunt1> no thanks
[08:46] <scguy318> ubunt1: okay then
[08:47] <ubunt1> why i can't install fsck
[08:47] <scguy318> ubunt1: you dont
[08:47] <darkchr0n0s> it's always there
[08:47] <scguy318> ubunt1: you shouldn't run it on a mounted partition anyway
[08:47] <ubunt1> and how to unmount the partition
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: sudo umount /the/mnt/point/here but I strongly suggest doing all this fun stuff from a LiveCD
[08:48] <denmax> i am not able to access internet from ubuntu . any suggestions please ?
[08:48] <ubunt1> why
[08:48] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  is it a good idea to run fsck periodically ?
[08:48] <scguy318> denmax: wireless or wired?
[08:48] <ubunt1> scguy318: why
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: for the safety of your data
[08:48] <scguy318> ubunt1: what exactly did you do in GPartEd anyway?
[08:49] <ubunt1> scguy318: restore from ext3
[08:49] <usr13> pLr: See:  ipcop.org pfsense.com http://m0n0.ch/wall/   etc.
[08:49] <denmax> scguy318 - is it okay to pm ?
[08:49] <scguy318> yes
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: well, Ubuntu does it for you ;)
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: so I guess yeah
[08:50] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: you know, every x mounts
[08:50] <sylverfox> re
[08:50] <sylverfox> overclucker: it doesn't work very well
[08:50] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  thanks
[08:50] <sylverfox> it mounted them under /media/disk
[08:51] <sylverfox> and /media/disk-1
[08:51] <pLr> usr13: i should go w/ ipcop?
[08:51] <sylverfox> but in fstab this aren't the mount points
[08:51] <b14ck> can anyone tell me why when i share folders with samba on my ubuntu computer, i can't get them from a wnidows computer? it asks for a password, but i want it to be un password protected.....
[08:51] <scguy318> ubunt1: restore from what? i strongly strongly strongly suggest testdisk
[08:51] <usr13> pLr: and http://www.smoothwall.org/
[08:51] <scguy318> ubunt1: your filesystem seems fubared
[08:51] <overclucker> sylverfox, to the mount poinst exist?
[08:51] <usr13> pLr: I recommend ipcop
[08:52] <sylverfox> one exists
[08:52] <sylverfox> but it isn't mounted there
[08:52] <iceslice> I've got a bunch of protected files linked to my trash can, how do i clear them out without deleting them?
[08:52] <Fishscene> Hey folks. I have, what I hope to be, an easy question
[08:52] <overclucker> sylverfox, and you rebooted?
[08:52] <sylverfox> yes
[08:52] <Fishscene> How do I get root-level access in Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:53] <scguy318> !root | Fishscene
[08:53] <ubotu> Fishscene: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  use sudo before every comand
[08:53] <overclucker> sylverfox, pastebin you fstab
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  what does sudo passwd will do then??
[08:53] <overclucker> !paste
[08:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <Fishscene> it asks me for a password
[08:54] <usr13> pLr: ipcop is user friendly and the documentation is good.  See: http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/admin/html/
[08:54] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  enter ur password
[08:54] <sylverfox> should i send it in private?
[08:54] <ubunt1> scguy318: how to test the disk
[08:54] <darkchr0n0s> Fishscene:  the one you use to login
[08:54] <overclucker> sylverfox, that would work too
[08:54] <Fishscene> ....
[08:54] <Fishscene> weird. Now it's working. Thanks guys :)
[08:54] <overclucker> sylverfox, pm?
[08:54] <scguy318> ubunt1: the link I gave you tells you
[08:54] <pLr> usr13: pfsense has more idlers on irc ;P
[08:54] <ubunt1> scguy318: i want some program that make it
[08:54] <turffy> Hi can any one help me Im configuring a new installed feisty to connect to a belkin wireless router and the wireless adapter im using is a d-link Air plus g dwl-g510. the router is just using wpa for security, i followed the instruction on http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html but I could not see wpa personal. can any one direct me to a complete how to, thanks.
[08:55] <usr13> pLr: BUT, I have most of my experience with IPcop and smoothwall. I've yet to try pfsense  So...
[08:55] <scguy318> ubunt1: testdisk can do the job, and are you sure you don't want to seek help in a Spanish channel?
[08:56] <ubunt1> scguy318: no thanks
[08:56] <turffy> I have use the link in my ibm laptop and im not having a problem
[08:56] <ubunt1> scguy318: now lets see
[08:56] <pLr> usr13: thx
[08:56] <usr13> pLr: just because there is more activity on IRC is not (in my opinion) a good reason to believe that it is the one that will best suit your needs.
[08:57] <usr13> pLr: Read the docs and ask more questions of others - first and then make up your mind
[08:57] <pLr> usr13: ok i will
[08:58] <usr13> pLr: Ipcop has served me well.  I've used it for several years now.
[08:59] <usr13> pLr: I can tell you a lot about ipcop and a little about smoothwall and monowall but little about the others.
[08:59] <pLr> usr13: ppl in pfsense are saying how its better than cisco routers so im pretty sold on that ive used cisco before
[09:00] <usr13> pLr: well, you can count on the fact that it will be more feature rich and more user friendly too, (and the price is right).
[09:01] <ubunt1> scguy318: and testdisk what do
[09:01] <usr13> pLr: It's pretty increadable really.  Linux firewall routers rock
[09:01] <scguy318> ubunt1: it analyzes your partition for data that can be recovered
[09:01] <zac> hey whats the status on compiz/compiz-fusion on amd64? it seems like its mostly there but missing some packages?
[09:01] <scguy318> ubunt1: considering the sorry state of your partition, I think that's a very good idea
[09:02] <ubunt1> a start to analyze
[09:02] <ubunt1> 60800cyclynder
[09:02] <usr13> pLr: In other words, you will find all of them good, just some will have menus and options arranged the way you want them.
[09:02] <ubunt1> what that mean
[09:02] <zac> also whats the command to switch whatever broken window manager is running now back to default?
[09:02] <pLr> usr13: im picking that up, i've been a windows/cisco admin for the past 10 years.. what a waste.
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr
[09:03] <pLr> ?
[09:03] <ubunt1> plr how cisco admin
[09:03] <usr13> Actually pfsense is BSD I think, right?
[09:03] <usr13> I don't know for sure.
[09:03] <pLr> ubunt1 what do you mean?
[09:03] <usr13> But not matter.
[09:03] <Fishscene> How do I navigate to the administrator desktop. I've tried using "cd .." which brings me to the home directory, but I can't seem to get anywhere else
[09:04] <ubunt1> plr windows cisco admin
[09:04] <ubunt1> ?
[09:04] <scguy318> Fishscene: root's home?
[09:04] <scguy318> Fishscene: /root I think
[09:04] <pLr> ubunt1: what is your question if i administer windows and cisco devices? yes.
[09:04] <Fishscene> Administrator's home
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: well, this is Linux, so we call it root :)
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: /root is it
[09:05] <ubunt1> plr but how can some peoples can be cisco admins
[09:05] <usr13> pLr: monowall also uses BSD kernel.
[09:05] <ubunt1> how they pay for the work?
[09:05] <ferronica_> how to print in office.org  document in black color ?
[09:05] <Fishscene> I just tried root successfully, but I'm not sure how to get to the desktop
[09:05] <scguy318> Fishscene: are you trying to login as root? if so, please read the link here
[09:06] <scguy318> !root | Fishscene
[09:06] <ubotu> Fishscene: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:06] <scguy318> Fishscene: there's absolutely no reason to
[09:06] <garette> hi all when i am running sudo apt-get install <package> after regular installation it shows me this weird output http://pastebin.ca/721382 please help
[09:06] <pLr> ubunt1: you get CCNA
[09:06] <ubunt1> plr yes
[09:06] <noskl1>  Fishscene: root does not have a desktop, since you can't normally login with root
[09:06] <ubunt1> plr but it is diffifult
[09:06] <danny500> ok big problem
[09:06] <ferronica_> ?
[09:06] <scguy318> danny500: wut
[09:06] <danny500> My computer will only run in 640X480 >_>
[09:07] <noskl1> Fishscene: tell us what you are trying to achieve instead
[09:07] <portablejim> How do you set the AuthMode=WPAPSK with ndiswrapper?
[09:07] <pLr> ubunt1: not if you enjoy playing w/ it ;)
[09:07] <ferronica_> how do i print in black color ?
[09:07] <Fishscene> ok here's my problem. I'm trying to install some 3rd party software. Which requires root privelages. The software is located on my desktop. At the login screen, I logged in as administrator
[09:07] <scguy318> Fishscene: what 3rd party software? does sudo not do it for you?
[09:07] <noskl1> ferronica_: you mean, like with a printer?
[09:07] <ubunt1> plr how they pay it for the work
[09:07] <Fishscene> VMWare tools
[09:07] <scguy318> Fishscene: and I don't believe you can login as root anyway, unless you set the root pass?
[09:07] <danny500> I do I force the computer to go into a different resolution?
[09:08] <darkchr0n0s> what do i use to make ISO of a disc ? k3b ??
[09:08] <noskl1> Fishscene: do you have an user called "Administrator"?
[09:08] <Fishscene> That was my problem earlier- I hadn't defined the root pass and I was confused why it was asking to to put it in :)
[09:08] <ubunt1> where i can find the command that can every day get hole
[09:08] <pLr> ubunt1: very well but its not many hours because its so stable
[09:08] <Fishscene> noskl1, yes
[09:08] <sylverfox> hi
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: yes
[09:08] <sylverfox> overclucker: it works
[09:08] <sylverfox> thanks
[09:08] <Fishscene> I defined that account when I installed Ubuntu
[09:08] <danny500> O_O wait. I might be in safe mode >_<
[09:08] <darkchr0n0s> what do i use to make ISO of a disc ? k3b ?? anyone ?
[09:08] <pLr> Going to sleep now bye all
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: by default word printin grey color :(
[09:08] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: to burn one? k3b or right clicking the ISO and doing burn
[09:08] <noskl1> Fishscene: so, your "administrator" user is not root
[09:08] <sylverfox> (how can i add the two partitions to my nautilus)
[09:08] <ubunt1> plr i want to work but i don't understand it
[09:08] <ferronica_> noskl1: i want to print in black color.
[09:08] <overclucker> sylverfox, no prob
[09:09] <noskl1> Fishscene: you have 2 users, "administrator" and "root"
[09:09] <Fishscene> Correct
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr i want to work but i don't understand it
[09:09] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  to make ISO from a disc.. that is copying the DISC onto hard drive
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: ah
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: i would just do
[09:09] <pLr> ubunt1: ccna torrent in google ;) goodnight
[09:09] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/iso/file/u/want bs=4096
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr ?
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr?
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr ?
[09:09] <darkchr0n0s> kk.. thanks
[09:09] <ubunt1> plr?
[09:09] <ubunt1> what
[09:10] <teKnofreak> plr == plz ?
[09:10] <noskl1> Fishscene: Whatever the document is telling you to do as root, you must do using sudo
[09:10] <scguy318> teKnofreak: no, hes trying to talk to a user whos going for the night
[09:10] <teKnofreak> ah ok
[09:10] <noskl1> just add "sudo" before all commands
[09:10] <ubunt1> this is bad if i know where to search to make a practic and someone to show me.
[09:10] <Fishscene> nokl1. Understood
[09:10] <scguy318> Fishscene: please read the link I gave you, it explains the Linux concept of security :)
[09:10] <teKnofreak> but that was pLr not plr :-s
[09:10] <noskl1> Fishscene: because there is no way to login as root, there is no root Desktop
[09:11] <scguy318> teKnofreak: i know, all lower case for him
[09:11] <garette> hi all when i am running sudo apt-get install <package> then in the output after regular installation it shows me this weird output http://pastebin.ca/721382 please help
[09:11] <teKnofreak> ohh
[09:11] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  is bs=4096 associated with ISO ?
[09:11] <noskl1> Fishscene: if you want to move to the "Administrator" desktop, just cd Desktop
[09:11] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: no, it just means, read 4096 bytes at a time
[09:11] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: when dd does the copying
[09:11] <Fishscene> Noskl1, it says the directory doesn't exist
[09:11] <garette> scguy3128: when i am running sudo apt-get install <package> then in the output after regular installation it shows me this weird output http://pastebin.ca/721382 please help
[09:11] <scguy318> Fishscene: i guess you're still in /root, so cd ~/Desktop
[09:12] <scguy318> garette: please use Ubuntu's pastebin, pastebin.ca is seriously lagging for me
[09:12] <teKnofreak> garette, you in the middle of dependency hell :P
[09:12] <Fishscene> output: /home/administrator/desktop: No such file or directory
[09:12] <scguy318> Fishscene: Linux is case sensitive
[09:12] <noskl1> Fishscene: with a capital D
[09:12] <Fishscene> By the way, I'll be reading the link sent to me
[09:12] <garette> teKnofreak: sorry i cant' get you
[09:13] <teKnofreak> garette, what did you try to apt-get install ?
[09:13] <Fishscene> Criminy. That was all?
[09:13] <teKnofreak> i mean the package
[09:13] <Fishscene> Hahahah. Awesome possum
[09:13] <scguy318> Fishscene: San Francisco you are from? cool
[09:13] <garette> teKnofreak: anything whatever it may be
[09:13] <Fishscene> lol. looking up my IP are we? :)
[09:13] <scguy318> Fishscene: its right on the reverse DNS :)
[09:14] <teKnofreak> garette, there is a older installation which am afraid has failed miserably and it is trying to reinstall it
[09:14] <Fishscene> curse my ISP
[09:14] <scguy318> Fishscene: i gather you can figure out where I'm from :P
[09:14] <Fishscene> ah well. I'm not exactly in SF. but yea
[09:14] <teKnofreak> i mean, an older apt-get install or something, associated with open office
[09:14] <garette> teKnofreak: so how do i fix it?
[09:14] <scguy318> Fishscene: close by I suppose
[09:14] <teKnofreak> garette, --fix-missing
[09:14] <Fishscene> yup
[09:14] <garette> teKnofreak: lemme try
[09:14] <scguy318> ubunt1: por favor, entre en la canal #ubuntu-es, I seriously doubt that we are meeting your needs
[09:15] <scguy318> garette: looks like a Launchpad bug
[09:15] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39236/
[09:15] <teKnofreak> gardar, oops.. use --ignore-missing or -m
[09:15] <garette> teKnofreak: hey now its exactly showing what i pasted!! lol
[09:15] <teKnofreak> err.. garette ^^
[09:16] <noskl1> what is the best option for a shared /home between 4 computers? NFS?
[09:16] <garette> scguy318, so what i can do to fix
[09:16] <denmax> i coudnt find much in the system logs. there were heaps of stuff...
[09:16] <Zweisteine> Hello, upon upgrading to Gutsy suspend no longer works. In Feisty, I had to install uswsusp and modify the HAL suspend script to call it instead of the kernel-mode things first to be able to suspend. In Gutsy, uswsusp doesn't include s2ram, so I built uswsusp from source. It doesn't work either. Was the uswsusp package from feisty built from CVS uswsusp or 0.7, and did it contain any special patch?
[09:16] <teKnofreak> garette, try installing ttf-opensymbol
[09:16] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: the if param should be a device name, /dev/cdrom
[09:17] <garette> teKnofreak: ok
[09:17] <usr13> noskl1: Soulds like what your looking for is a thinclient system.
[09:17] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[09:17] <noskl1> usr13: nope
[09:17] <scguy318> garette: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553 for fine discussion
[09:17] <denmax>  i still dont want to give up . i wanna find a way to make it work.
[09:17] <noskl1> usr13: I have 4 P4 machines with 1GB RAM each
[09:17] <teKnofreak> garette, and then do apt-get -f install, and see
[09:17] <garette> teKnofreak: same error
[09:17] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318:  thanks
[09:17] <noskl1> usr13: I can't run all processes in one of them
[09:18] <teKnofreak> garette, same as in it shows the entire crap ?
[09:18] <garette> scguy318, teKnofreak: yeah''
[09:18] <denmax> scguy318 - coudlnt find much in the logs bro
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: anything related to DHCP? you shouldn't have needed to peek through the entire boot-up log
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: :(
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: perhaps
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: hmm
[09:18] <teKnofreak> garette, it is an earlier mess of ttf-opensymbol
[09:18] <usr13>  noskl1 NFS is more than likely what you will want to use.
[09:18] <denmax> what client do u use scguy318 ?
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: your router doesn't like that Windows hasn't released
[09:18] <scguy318> the DHCP lease
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: client?
[09:18] <b3nw> hi all, I noticed when I click and hold the right alt key down, I'm able to drag the window around, am I able to disable this functionality somewhere? (xfce4 / ubuntu)
[09:18] <scguy318> denmax: IRC? i run mIRC on Wine
[09:18] <denmax> mirc. ?
[09:19] <scguy318> yep
[09:19] <garette> teKnofreak: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:19] <floop_> Floopy
[09:19] <Fishscene> Windows hasn't release the IP?
[09:19] <floop_> &nick Floopy
[09:19] <teKnofreak> garette, find post-instal script of ttf-opensymbol and delete it before trying again
[09:19] <scguy318> Fishscene: ?
[09:19] <Curs0r> is there a way to pass an install partition to ubiquity on the command line?
[09:19] <denmax> scguy318 : dhcp ? yes. it had timed out without any response
[09:19] <scguy318> denmax: could be a router thing :(
[09:19] <Fishscene> sorry, saw a chance where I might be able to help. lol
[09:19] <garette> teKnofreak: how do i do that?
[09:19] <scguy318> Fishscene: oh, I thought u were asking a question :P
[09:19] <Fishscene> oh. lol
[09:19] <teKnofreak> garette, you should find it somewhere like.. /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacs22.postrm
[09:19] <darkchr0n0s_> nick ghosted :(
[09:20] <ferronica> how to burn .uif image file in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME ?
[09:20] <scguy318> ferronica: convert that UIF baby in MagicISO (a WINDOWS app :()
[09:20] <denmax> which is why i put in the static ip address and even then, i am not able to ping 10.1.1.1
[09:20] <Floopy> anny of you guys know how wine, cedga or crossover supports photoshop cs1 cs2 or cs 3?
[09:20] <darkchr0n0s_> nick
[09:20] <garette> teKnofreak: ok let me check
[09:20] <Fishscene> Denmax, if you don't mind, what's going on?
[09:20] <teKnofreak> garette, delete the content of the script leaving it blank
[09:20] <scguy318> Floopy: not very well, though there are strides in 0.9.46, the very latest
[09:20] <darkchr0n0s_> nick as
[09:20] <Floopy> or if it does
[09:20] <scguy318> Floopy: check WineAppDb for more info
[09:20] <darkchr0n0s_> nick as :(
[09:20] <garette> teKnofreak: ok
[09:20] <darkchr0n0s_> :S
[09:20] <darkchr0n0s_> anways
[09:20] <Floopy> k thanx
[09:20] <scguy318> Floopy: one of the few stuff that u need Windoze for
[09:21] <Curs0r> is there a way to pass an install partition to ubiquity on the command line?
[09:21] <denmax> fishscene : sure fishscene, i installed ubuntu  and i am not able to access internet.
[09:21] <Floopy> I know, but like linux the most hehe
[09:21] <ferronica> scguy318: better to burn in windows then
[09:21] <Fishscene> Denmax, I assume you have an IP address and DNS server configured on Ubuntu?
[09:21] <usr13> ferronica: You need to convert the .uif image to iso
[09:21] <darkchr0n0s_> scguy318:  you can burn CD/DVD using DVD also then ??
[09:21] <sia> Can anyone tell me what kernel Feisty or Gibbon uses?
[09:21] <garette> teKnofreak: hey my /var/lib/dpkg/info/ contins -> emerald.postrm
[09:21] <ferronica> scguy318: in windows magic iso burn it directly
[09:22] <garette> teKnofreak: but not what you said
[09:22] <darkchr0n0s_> scguy318:  you can burn CD/DVD using dd* also then ??
[09:22] <ferronica> scguy318: how to convert it to .iso in ubuntu?
[09:22] <leo_rockw> not_sia, i'm on gutsy and i have 2.6.22-12-generic
[09:22] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s_: no
[09:22] <denmax> scguy318 : what does "wine " on mirc help u with ? is it like a plugin ?
[09:22] <not_sia> leo_rockw: Thanks a bunch
[09:22] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s_: you would use cdrecord or w/e
[09:22] <leo_rockw> not_sia, np
[09:22] <scguy318> ferronica: use MagicISO, save as -> ISO
[09:22] <darkchr0n0s_> scguy318:  alright
[09:22] <scguy318> ferronica: UIF is a crappy format, even though yes its compressed
[09:22] <noskl1> denmax: wine allows you to run windows programs in linux
[09:22] <cyne> is xubuntu supported here?
[09:22] <noskl1> denmax: mIRC is windows only
[09:23] <scguy318> cyne: probably, ask away
[09:23] <leo_rockw> how do i tell s2disk where to resume from after i hibernate?
[09:23] <garette> teKnofreak: hello.. are you there?
[09:23] <ferronica> scguy318: magic iso available in ubuntu
[09:23] <noskl1> denmax: with wine you can run it and other windows programs in ubuntu
[09:23] <scguy318> ferronica: you would have to run it under Wine
[09:23] <cyne> scguy318: i'm trying to install xubuntu... but i only get the 'lite' version -- no menu bars on top or bottom
[09:23] <scguy318> cyne: install xubuntu-desktop?
[09:23] <Fishscene> I'm going to go hit the hay, Thanks again for the help everyone :D
[09:23] <scguy318> cyne: thats the whole complete xubuntu
[09:23] <scguy318> Fishscene: night
[09:23] <teKnofreak> garette, it doesn't have a ttf-opensymbol.posterm ?
[09:23] <garette> no
[09:24] <cyne> scguy318: i was wondering, should i have downloaded the "xubuntu alternate cd"
[09:24] <ferronica> scguy318: there is no application available which burn .uif in ubuntu
[09:24] <Floopy> now annother question - somehow my keyboard seems to have gotten a us layout, yet my layout is set do dk in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <garette> teKnofreak: no
[09:24] <usr13> ferronica: I understand that MagicISO runs in Wine and you can use it to convert to ISO.
[09:24] <garette> teKnofreak: :(
[09:24] <teKnofreak> garette, ummmmmm...... google for the error in ttf-opensymbol, its the top of the problem
[09:24] <teKnofreak> garette, and report a bug, hope someone has a solution
[09:25] <scguy318> ferronica: nothing that's open-source, UIF = proprietary, MagicISO makers don't have an incentive to release specs
[09:25] <scguy318> teKnofreak: does my Launchpad link not provide relevant discussion?
[09:25] <scguy318> tekNofreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[09:25] <nosklo> Floopy: try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[09:25] <d1n0> Hello, I'm using Logitechs Dinovo Edge keyboard and Logitechs MX1000 which both came with their own bluetooth dongle! BUT, the dinovo edge keyboard has a mouse function, so whenever the DINOVO EDGE is connected MX1000 wont work! I've tried and tried and tried..... any suggestions? :)
[09:25] <riotkittie> Floopy: go to System > Preferences, check layout there
[09:25] <garette> teKnofreak:  soryy i found it :S
[09:25] <garette> :D
[09:26] <ferronica> scguy318: then i will burn it as data cd ,after that i will copy it in window
[09:26] <scguy318> ferronica: okay then :)
[09:26] <riotkittie> d1n0: solution = gimme your keyboard. :D
[09:26] <cyne> scguy318: yes i downloaded xubuntu desktop 386 .iso
[09:26] <teKnofreak> garette, found what ?
[09:26] <leo_rockw> anybody knows how to tell s2disk where to resume from after i hibernate?
[09:26] <garette> teKnofreak: found tha scrip
[09:26] <Floopy> k thx nosklo and riotkittie - not used to the newer systems
[09:26] <kantor> hi, I have installed ubuntu 7.04,but I can not use the system as root user because at installation ubuntu does not asked me for a root password
[09:26] <scguy318> cyne: you already have Ubuntu, or are using it?
[09:26] <garette> teKnofreak: shall i emepty that file?
[09:27] <leo_rockw> kantor, use sudo
[09:27] <riotkittie> actually. i want one of those nifty wave keyboards. :\
[09:27] <leo_rockw> kantor, and your user password
[09:27] <usr13> kantor: Ubuntu uses sudo
[09:27] <cyne> scguy318: i'm using ubuntu on this PC... but i want to install xubuntu on my laptop
[09:27] <denmax> oh .. i see . wine is used to run windows apps ..
[09:27] <garette> teKnofreak: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ttf-opensymbol.postrm this is what i found
[09:27] <d1n0> riotkittie: nah, but can you help? im really desperate, the mouse on the edge aint worth shit, so it takes twice the time to search up something new to try out
[09:27] <scguy318> cyne: ah
[09:27] <usr13> kantor: root user is [by default]  dissabled.
[09:27] <denmax> i wonder if skype / msn messneger / yahoo messenger would run
[09:27] <scguy318> cyne: and what was it that you were asking? Xubuntu being lite?
[09:27] <riotkittie> d1n0: i have no clue, sorry
[09:27] <leo_rockw> kantor, it's not wise to be root permanently (letting you know, just in case)
[09:27] <scguy318> denmax: check Wine AppDb
[09:27] <denmax> but , before that , i need to get this internet up and going
[09:27] <d1n0> ok thx anyways
[09:27] <garette> teKnofreak: shalli empty the file and run sudo apt-get install ttf-opensymbol
[09:27] <garette> ?
[09:28] <kantor> leagris, I used sudo, but it asks for the currently root password,but I don't know that because I have not set up
[09:28] <kantor> usr13,
[09:28] <scguy318> denmax: for MSN/Yahoo, Gaim/Pidgin/open-source IM app here would be better
[09:28] <cyne> scguy318: yeah -- i booted the live cd on my laptop and there's no top/bottom bars on the desktop, only desktop icons
[09:28] <leo_rockw> kantor, use your user password
[09:28] <usr13> kantor: Just prefex commands that need admin priviledges with "sudo"
[09:28] <scguy318> cyne: weird, right add add panels?
[09:28] <scguy318> *click
[09:28] <cyne> scguy318: hence, no easy way to launch applications
[09:28] <leo_rockw> kantor, if you're a sudoer that will work
[09:28] <cyne> scguy318: i'll try that
[09:28] <scguy318> kantor: the password it asks for is your user account password
[09:28] <usr13> kantor: Just operate as user and  prefex commands that need admin priviledges with "sudo"
[09:28] <kantor> ok,thanks
[09:28] <scguy318> cyne: very weird the no panels thing
[09:28] <riotkittie> i hate the mouse that came with my wireless logitech keyboard. i hope i dont run into that issue :o
[09:29] <kantor> usr13, scguy318 leo_rockw thanks a lot !
[09:29] <leo_rockw> kantor, np
[09:29] <usr13> kantor: np
[09:29] <leo_rockw> anybody here has s2disk working properly?
[09:30] <cyne> scguy318: yeah i know - what i suppose i was asking before, is -- what is the xubuntu alternate iso? i had wondered if it was a more 'complete' version of xubuntu -- couldn't find a descriptor anywhere
[09:30] <garette> :d:-$
[09:30] <scguy318> cyne: ah
[09:30] <shaqie_lee> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:30] <scguy318> cyne: alternate is just text-based
[09:31] <riotkittie> cyne: no, it's a text install for machines that cant run the live CD, or people that dont want to
[09:31] <leo_rockw> cyne, alternate in ubuntu is a textmode install. i'm guessing it is the same for xubuntu
[09:31] <cyne> oh i see. thanks
[09:31] <scguy318> cyne: strange the panel issue, just add panels, then the applets u need/want
[09:32] <garette>  teKnofreak: hey are you there?
[09:32] <cyne> ok
[09:32] <denmax> scguy318 - before i get into wine, i need some help fixing the network thingy
[09:33] <scguy318> denmax: mmmm, i imagine your network card is fine
[09:33] <scguy318> denmax: could it be your router? not giving it a lease from same MAC?
[09:33] <d1n0> Hello, I'm using Logitechs Dinovo Edge keyboard and Logitechs MX1000 which both came with their own bluetooth dongle! BUT, the dinovo edge keyboard has a mouse function, so whenever the DINOVO EDGE is connected MX1000 wont work! I've tried and tried and tried..... any suggestions? :)
[09:33] <scguy318> denmax: would be weird though, but dunno :(
[09:33] <scguy318> denmax: and if you do sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth0
[09:34] <scguy318> denmax: well, yeah, I think u did that, no DHCP reply
[09:34] <scguy318> denmax: mm i dunno :(
[09:34] <portablejim> The wireless driver works on a dapper computer but not on one running Edgy.
[09:35] <portablejim> I mean feisty.
[09:35] <scguy318> portablejim: wut driver
[09:35] <garette>  teKnofreak: I'm waiting
[09:36] <scguy318> maybe he's afk?
[09:36] <portablejim> The driver for my D-Link DWL-G122. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[09:37] <comz> x.org
[09:37] <cyne> scguy318: ok well i right click and i got the desktop settings, i was able to add the 'desktop menu' to the right click -- but there's no 'add panel' or anything like that
[09:37] <iamgedanken> hey ho
[09:38] <iamgedanken> how is everyone
[09:38] <denmax> scguy318: the network card works fine when i am on windows,
[09:38] <leo_rockw> hello iamgedanken
[09:38] <denmax> scguy318 : another computer is able to get the ipaddress wihtout any issues! and also, even if the dhcp fails, the static is suposed to work.
[09:38] <Kagar> hmm, I somehow accidently denied access to my /home/ folder while installing a game, and now I can't undo it. I tried sudo chmod 0777 /home/ and sudo chmod 777 /home/
[09:39] <denmax> scguy318: i am sure this it the weirdest thing u might have come across
[09:39] <cyne> scguy318: it's wierd, because when x is starting up -- i see the top and bottom panels, then they dissapear
[09:39] <scguy318> cyne: weird :(
[09:39] <Kagar> ANd I'm wondering on how do I remove this?
[09:39] <d1n0> Hello, I'm using Logitechs Dinovo Edge keyboard and Logitechs MX1000 which both came with their own bluetooth dongle! BUT, the dinovo edge keyboard has a mouse function, so whenever the DINOVO EDGE is connected MX1000 wont work! I've tried and tried and tried..... any suggestions? :)
[09:39] <scguy318> cyne: i dunno, i guess you could carry on with install
[09:39] <scguy318> cyne: then see if that behavior persists
[09:39] <Tommy> Hello, i just installed gutsy beta and did not install a boot loader. Can someone post their gutsy menu.lst entry so i can copy it please?
[09:39] <cyne> ok
[09:39] <scguy318> Kagar: do it from Recovery Console?
[09:40] <Kagar> Where's my recovery console?
[09:40] <scguy318> !gutsy | Tommy
[09:40] <ubotu> Tommy: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <scguy318> Kagar: when u boot, u can select the recovery console, it just takes u to single-user mode
[09:40] <iamgedanken> I am trying to unmount my external hdd without losing any data by clicking it on the desktop but it tells me an application is preventing it from being unmounted - I have closed all visible windows and looked in process manager for clues - does this happen because of a specific program and any ideas how I can unmount it without losing anything?
[09:40] <SkareCrow> Hello, I have been trying to get my 2 monitors working in Ubuntu Feisty all day today. I have gotten It to display both of my monitors each having its own X Session (I guess), I like how it is and all but I cannot get screen 2 (Secondary) to display the correct resolution of 1440x900. Here is my xorg.conf: http://skarecrow.pastebin.com/d4ad03aa5 --- Here is a screen shot of my primary monitor resolutions (working): http://img47
[09:40] <Tommy> sorry, didnt know. :)
[09:40] <Kagar> alright, I'll try that. Can I do that just by restarting my x-server?
[09:40] <scguy318> imagedanken: do lsof /media/<w/e it is> to see whats using it
[09:40] <Kagar> or through grub
[09:41] <iamgedanken> thanks scguy318 will do
[09:41] <bentob0x> how can I enable new kernel modules?
[09:41] <scguy318> Kagar: mm, you'll have to reboot, I forgot how to set runlevel to single-user on a normal running system (I'm dumb)
[09:41] <iamgedanken> scguy318: nothing comes up in console
[09:41] <scguy318> iamgedanken: mm k
[09:42] <scguy318> iamgedanken: you can try manually unmounting by doing: sudo umount /media/<w/e it is>
[09:42] <iamgedanken> will I lose data? I have just written 100 gig to it
[09:42] <scguy318> iamgedanken: if no errors result, then u can unplug np
[09:42] <iamgedanken> ah ok
[09:42] <scguy318> iamgedanken: nope
[09:42] <iamgedanken> cool thanks
[09:42] <scguy318> iamgedanken: if ur concerned, just do sync
[09:42] <iamgedanken> sync?
[09:42] <iamgedanken> ~sync
[09:42] <d1n0> Hello, I'm using Logitechs Dinovo Edge keyboard and Logitechs MX1000 which both came with their own bluetooth dongle! BUT, the dinovo edge keyboard has a mouse function, so whenever the DINOVO EDGE is connected MX1000 wont work! I've tried and tried and tried..... any suggestions? :)
[09:42] <scguy318> iamgedanken: just tells the kernel to flush any disk buffers
[09:43] <scguy318> iamgedanken: it does that anyway when u unmount
[09:43] <iamgedanken> o I c
[09:43] <scguy318> iamgedanken: but yeah
[09:43] <iamgedanken> it says device is busy
[09:43] <cyne> scguy318: well, ctrl-alt-backspace fixed it :P
[09:43] <scguy318> cyne: cool :)
[09:43] <scguy318> iamgedanken: mm
[09:44] <scguy318> iamgedanken: no output from lsof /media/w/e
[09:44] <scguy318> ?
[09:44] <iamgedanken> no output whatsoever
[09:45] <scguy318> iamgedanken: i suppose you could sync, then forcibly remove
[09:45] <iamgedanken> ok
[09:45] <scguy318> iamgedanken: im not all that comfy, but if you have to
[09:45] <iamgedanken> that's ok, I have another backup, what is the sync command
[09:45] <iamgedanken> ?
[09:45] <scguy318> iamgedanken: sync
[09:45] <iamgedanken> haha ok
[09:45] <iamgedanken> sync: ignoring all arguments
[09:45] <iamgedanken> sync
[09:46] <iamgedanken> that is what I got out
[09:46] <scguy318> iamgedanken: it shouldn't output anything, but mm k
[09:46] <scguy318> iamgedanken: yeah just go ahead and remove
[09:46] <iamgedanken> ok
[09:46] <scguy318> iamgedanken: weird that it was busy
[09:46] <iamgedanken> yeah I know
[09:46] <iamgedanken> did it with my pen drive too :\
[09:46] <symtab> hello
[09:47] <symtab> anyone having problems with restart/shutdown in ubuntu gutsy?
[09:47] <scguy318> !gutsy | symtab
[09:47] <ubotu> symtab: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <symtab> oh
[09:47] <symtab> ok
[09:47] <symtab> thanks
[09:47] <zanner> hello
[09:48] <scguy318> zanner: hai
[09:48] <zanner> do you know a irc about ubuntu in french, please
[09:49] <scguy318> !fr | zanner
[09:49] <ubotu> zanner: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:49] <zanner> merci:)
[09:49] <scguy318> zanner: np :)
[09:49] <SkareCrow> :( I am never going to be able to solve this issue.
[09:50] <scguy318> SkareCrow: wut issue
[09:50] <Airwulf2k> hello to you all
[09:50] <scguy318> zanner: if you dont know how to join, just type /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:50] <scguy318> zanner: n/m :)
[09:50] <zanner> ok
[09:50] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Can you scroll up, or should I re-paste?
[09:50] <Airwulf2k> Is there a command to insert a service like insserv for suse?
[09:50] <scguy318> SkareCrow: say again
[09:50] <scguy318> Airwulf2k: #suse
[09:50] <SkareCrow> I have been trying to get my 2 monitors working in Ubuntu Feisty all day today. I have gotten It to display both of my monitors each having its own X Session (I guess), I like how it is and all but I cannot get screen 2 (Secondary) to display the correct resolution of 1440x900. Here is my xorg.conf: http://skarecrow.pastebin.com/d4ad03aa5 --- Here is a screen shot of my primary monitor resolutions (working): http://img470.image
[09:51] <gorski> why i get no results for /whois in xchat?
[09:51] <Airwulf2k> scguy318: I want to know if ubuntu has such a command to insert a service or must I do the links by hand?
[09:51] <SkareCrow> gorski: #xchat ?
[09:52] <usr13> Airwulf2k: init.d
[09:52] <scguy318> SkareCrow: have you tried adjusting the vert/horiz refresh values?
[09:52] <scguy318> SkareCrow: obviously they're not the same monitor ;)
[09:52] <scguy318> SkareCrow: and they prob have different specs
[09:52] <dstadulis> anyone know how to add a directory to /media
[09:52] <SkareCrow> I never said they were the same monitor
[09:52] <usr13> Airwulf2k: e.g. /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:52] <scguy318> SkareCrow: i know
[09:52] <jxxxt> I am having trouble installing feisty from a c/d can I copy the image to a hard drive or usb mass storage then install from there?? If yes how?
[09:53] <gorski> SkareCrow: yes
[09:53] <usr13> Airwulf2k: e.g. /etc/init.d/httpd start
[09:53] <usr13> etc.
[09:53] <scguy318> SkareCrow: so have you tweaked the horiz/vert ranges for the Envision?
[09:53] <scguy318> !install | jxxxt
[09:53] <ubotu> jxxxt: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:53] <SkareCrow> scguy318: No I have not. I have tried some modelines I have found off the net without any luck.
[09:53] <scguy318> dstadulis: mkdir?
[09:53] <cbx33> hey all
[09:53] <Kagar> hmm, now I can't get passed the login screen.
[09:53] <scguy318> SkareCrow: that might be the thing
[09:53] <Airwulf2k> usr13: that not what I'm looking for. I have my on service script and want to insert it like ln -s ../iptables_rules.sh S17iptables_rules.... Most distro have a command who does this
[09:53] <cbx33> I just plugged in a USB HDD, formatted it with ext3 and now I can't write to it
[09:53] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I am fairly new to Linux as a desktop
[09:53] <cbx33> why?
[09:54] <jxxxt> scguy318, thank you
[09:54] <scguy318> SkareCrow: lemme find the specs for your Envision
[09:54] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Thanks
[09:54] <dstadulis> scguy318: lol sudo fixed my problem
[09:54] <dstadulis> :/:/
[09:54] <cbx33> it's mounted to /media/disk as /dev/sda1
[09:54] <cbx33> there is a lost and found directory
[09:54] <cbx33> an ls in the media directory shows
[09:54] <cbx33> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2007-10-01 08:36 disk
[09:55] <cbx33> why don't I have permission to write to this particular drive
[09:55] <cbx33> usb sticks I can write to fine
[09:55] <cbx33> just not this usb hdd
[09:55] <cbx33> any ideas?
[09:55] <scguy318> SkareCrow: ok
[09:55] <scguy318> SkareCrow: for the Envision
[09:55] <usr13> Airwulf2k: Yes, you can use symlinks to put your scripts where you want.
[09:56] <scguy318> Skarecrow: the vertical should be 55-75, and the horiz should be 30-80
[09:56] <scguy318> SkareCrow: got it from http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Envision-MNTR-EVISN-LCD19-8MS-DSUB-H193Wk of all places
[09:56] <usr13> Airwulf2k: You can use symlinks to order scripts where you want.
[09:56] <I_G0dzzzz_I> !join #aether
[09:56] <overclucker> cbx33, sudo chown cbx33:root /media/disk
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join #aether - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I should just edit my current horiz and vert in my monitor section for my envision, correct?
[09:56] <scguy318> SkareCrow: yes
[09:56] <cbx33> overclucker
[09:56] <scguy318> SkareCrow: backup the xorg.conf of course
[09:56] <cbx33> hmmmok but shouldn't it do that by default
[09:57] <overclucker> cbx33, it cbx33 is your username
[09:57] <gorski> why i get no results for /whois in xchat?
[09:57] <overclucker> s/it/if
[09:57] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I already have backups for every change I have done. >_< I have been playing with my xorg.conf all day
[09:57] <usr13> Airwulf2k: Are you RH user (previously).  Because if you are, you will find that the runlevels are not used in the same way.
[09:57] <garette> hi all my apt-get gone crazy... i don't know what happened.. whatever i try to install it will donlowd the things and when setting up it gives this weird error http://pastebin.ca/721453
[09:57] <overclucker> cbx33, hmm?
[09:58] <SkareCrow> gorski: I told you, #xchat - type /join #xchat
[09:58] <usr13> Airwulf2k: Ubuntu / debian is somewhat different in their use of runlevels [different from RH / Mandrake / SuSe ] 
[09:58] <garette> !ttf-opensymbol
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf-opensymbol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <cbx33> overclucker: that made no difference
[09:58] <scguy318> garette: did you look at Launchpad discussion?
[09:58] <cbx33> the chown command
[09:58] <garette> !hehe :P
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hehe :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <overclucker> cbx33, what filesystem is the disk?
[09:58] <cbx33> ext3
[09:58] <gorski> ok
[09:58] <garette> scguy318, no sorry.. can you please gimme the link again :(
[09:59] <Airwulf2k> usr13: I use suse, rh. How can I install a service with ubuntu? Isn't there a tool who do this?
[09:59] <cbx33>  /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[09:59] <scguy318> garette: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[09:59] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I should probally do this for my ViewSonic too :)
[09:59] <scguy318> garette: and use the Ubuntu pastebin
[09:59] <usr13> Airwulf2k: What service?
[09:59] <ksivaji> is it possible to edit a pdf file
[09:59] <kantor> I have added ide-scsi module to /etc/modules, if I add this like a kernel parameter nothing happens: hdx=ide-scsi
[09:59] <garette> scguy3128: :)
[09:59] <overclucker> cbx33, and you can't write to it?
[09:59] <scguy318> SkareCrow: sure :) though, if its working fine, shouldnt be a biggie
[09:59] <cbx33> overclucker ... no
[09:59] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Might as well make it right
[09:59] <usr13> If you install one via the package manager, it will be started by default.
[09:59] <cbx33> the /media/disk has changed
[10:00] <cbx33> it's owner
[10:00] <cbx33> it's owner is now me
[10:00] <Javid> !ding dongs
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ding dongs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <usr13> Airwulf2k: It will be started as part of the install process.
[10:00] <cbx33> but i still can't write to it
[10:00] <simplechat> hey, i'm having an issue with hamachi, in that it fails login.
[10:00] <usr13> Airwulf2k: That is another difference that one needs to be aware of.
[10:01] <shaqie_lee> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[10:01] <overclucker> cbx33, can you copy to it with sudo cp?
[10:01] <cbx33> when i eject it it says it can't eject properly
[10:01] <cbx33> i think so yes
[10:01] <simplechat> i installed from the .tar.gz from their website, followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036 until it died. on login. i've stringed hamachi and it has no debugging options.
[10:01] <usr13> Airwulf2k: It's a bit of a dangerous thing in a way, but that's the way it works with Ubuntu
[10:01] <cbx33> i didn't really wanty to sudo copy it all though
[10:01] <rico> anyone know how i can change my X's display driver (from xserver-xorg-video-intel to -i8xx)? :b
[10:02] <dgjones> cbx33, i had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago, after changing group & chmoding a drive, i couldn't write to a mounted partition via nautilus, but I could from a command line and I had to restart the computer so that nautilus picked up the changed settings
[10:02] <overclucker> cbx33, just checking if writing at all was possible
[10:02] <cbx33> dgjones ok
[10:02] <cbx33> lemme try that
[10:02] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I am going to restart X and see if this works. I will be back
[10:02] <dgjones> cbx33, perhaps open a terminal and try to copy a file to the partition to see if you have rights that way before restarting
[10:02] <usr13> Airwulf2k: e.g. If you do "apt-get install apache"  you'll find that apache will be running when the install process is done.
[10:02] <cbx33> thanks dgjones
[10:02] <cbx33> it was nautilus it seems
[10:03] <cbx33> i'm using rsync anyway
[10:03] <simplechat> I've checked with the documentation,  and they point to a few problems that i don't have (ifconfig not being used, etc) and solutions that don't work. same with google
[10:03] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Thanks, it worked perfectly. :)
[10:03] <simplechat> anyone have any expereince with hamachi?
[10:03] <rico> oops. hmm. I want to change my display drivers from `xserver-xorg-video-intel` to `xserver-xorg-video-i810`. anyone with any clue on how I can do this?
[10:03] <dgjones> cbx33, from what i can remember, nautilus picked up the drive settings at boot and didn't update them until a restart
[10:03] <scguy318> SkareCrow: yay :)
[10:04] <scguy318> SkareCrow: anything else? im just about ready to pack up for the night
[10:04] <simplechat> any sort of general responce would be helpfull.
[10:04] <joebob777as7> rico, just change intel to i810 in xorg.conf
[10:04] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Yea, but I think it is just settings on my monitor. My monitor is like super bright, but just making it darker doesn't fix it.
[10:04] <Airwulf2k> usr13: I have my script iptables_rules.sh in /etc/init.d/ and will install it in rc3/rc5 at the right position after network etc. How can I do this with ubuntu? only with symlink (ln) by hand?
[10:04] <scguy318> SkareCrow: could be a gamma thing I suppose
[10:04] <rico> that simple? thanks joebob777as7 . :)
[10:04] <SkareCrow> scguy318: It was at a point where I couldn't see anything, I changed the color temp but now it just seems dark
[10:05] <dino_> Can aaaaaaaanyone help me? Im having huge problems getting MX1000 to work while using my dinvo edge keyboard at the same time! both are running on each own bluetooth dongle... neeeed heeeelp
[10:05] <joebob777as7> np
[10:05] <rico> will try restarting X now and see if it works.. *crosses fingers*
[10:05] <usr13> Airwulf2k: Ok, is it a firewall script?
[10:05] <rico> ctrl alt bksp, right?
[10:05] <scguy318> rico: yep
[10:05] <simplechat> :(
[10:05] <joebob777as7> dino_, what do sys logs say?
[10:05] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I don't know if it was like that before or what, but it just seems a little off still. The text and stuff doesn't seem complete, kinda edgy
[10:05] <scguy318> SkareCrow: tick on subpixel or w/e?
[10:05] <scguy318> SkareCrow: sry if I'm blabbering
[10:05] <SkareCrow> scguy318: ?
[10:06] <Airwulf2k> usr13: yes it is
[10:06] <dino_> joebob777as7: im new, so dont know what syslogs is
[10:06] <usr13> Airwulf2k: To tell you the truth, I'd have to look around a bit to find the best place to put it.  Just a sec.
[10:06] <scguy318> SkareCrow: like font properties configuration w/e
[10:06] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Like the P the l part of it looks really skinny and gone in parts
[10:06] <scguy318> SkareCrow: weird
[10:06] <SkareCrow> scguy318: But it is pretty dark right now, and I cannot make it any brighter.
[10:06] <joebob777as7> dino_, system> adminsitration> system log
[10:06] <scguy318> SkareCrow: u using restricted?
[10:06] <SkareCrow> scguy318: In fact, I cannot get it as bright as it was before I set the color temp. I can set a custom though.
[10:07] <SkareCrow> scguy318: Not that I am aware of.
[10:07] <scguy318> SkareCrow: mm ok
[10:07] <Airwulf2k> usr13: you do not need to look. thats what I can do by myself. On SuSE insserv do this automatically and on redhat chk... does it to. Which is the command on ubuntu?
[10:07] <palo117> anyone know how to install a minolta pageworks printer driver
[10:07] <iamgedanken> is there any way of seeing what beagle has indexed?
[10:07] <scguy318> SkareCrow: i would love to help but I really really am zzzzzzzzzz, and got school anyway
[10:07] <SkareCrow> scguy318: I can figure this one out
[10:08] <scguy318> SkareCrow: Washington is behind Texas k g/l
[10:08] <scguy318> SkareCrow: good night
[10:09] <usr13> Airwulf2k: One safe way would be to just let it run last, for now.
[10:09] <usr13> Airwulf2k: In other words, just do:
[10:10] <usr13> Airwulf2k: sudo mv rc.firewall /etc/rc.local
[10:11] <usr13> Airwulf2k: (as long as  your not going to use rc.local for anything else.)
[10:11] <usr13> Airwulf2k: and then, (just to make sure):  sudo chmod +x /etc/rc.local
[10:11] <kecoa_gondrong> r irc.cbn.net.id
[10:13] <dino_> joebob777as7:  im not logged on my ubuntu now. but can you tell me what to look for, or try to explain *what* i *can* do...
[10:13] <joebob777as7> look for some errors that are reoccurring? maybe see if there is something that happens as son as you plug in your device...
[10:14] <wilhart> configure: error: wxWindows must be installed on your system.
[10:14] <wilhart> wich program to use with that?
[10:14] <dino_> joebob777as7: so, i have to do this the really really really hard way? you've never heard of a similar situation?
[10:15] <wilhart> oh found.
[10:15] <joebob777as7> dino_, no and i'm no expert on it either. you might try asking back here later when more ppl are awake. or i hate to say it but google or search the launchpad bugs
[10:16] <garette> scguy318: that discussion help.. problem solved ;) thanks :)
[10:16] <iamgedanken> he's left
[10:16] <garette> iamgendanken, its ok :)
[10:16] <dino_> google wont help me with this one..... i've tried enough, real people with same experience as me is what i need now... :)
[10:16] <usr13> Airwulf2k: I found /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[10:17] <usr13> so ...
[10:18] <usr13> Airwulf2k: ls /etc/rcS.d/S4*  /etc/rcS.d/S40networking  /etc/rcS.d/S46mountnfs-bootclean.sh /etc/rcS.d/S45waitnfs.sh  /etc/rcS.d/S49console-setup
[10:19] <usr13> Airwulf2k: Maybe: sudo  mv rc.firewall /etc/rcS.d/S41firewall
[10:20] <usr13> Airwulf2k: sudo chmod +x /etc/rcS.d/S41firewall
[10:20] <usr13> Airwulf2k: How about that?
[10:21] <usr13> Airwulf2k: or:  ln -s rc.firewall /etc/rcS.d/S41firewall
[10:21] <usr13> Airwulf2k: I'll bet that's what you're looking for.
[10:22] <Krhis> Hello all.
[10:23] <reverie> morning guys
[10:23] <Krhis> Yo.
[10:23] <reverie> Is anyone here using the e1000 module on Gutsy?
[10:24] <Krhis> I'm trying to get a list of all windows in Gnome by using `wmctrl -l`, but it's only showing 6 of ~20 that I have up. Am I missing something?
[10:25] <hiv002> 
[10:25] <A[D] minS> !vce
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <hiv002> 
[10:25] <reverie> !e1000
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e1000 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <hiv002> 
[10:26] <A[D] minS> is there any program opening files.vce ?
[10:27] <hiv002>  
[10:27] <usr13> A[D] minS: What is a vce file?
[10:28] <usr13> A[D] minS: In other words; What type of file are you trying to open?
[10:28] <hiv002> 
[10:28] <A[D] minS> usr13: examfile with extension .vce
[10:28] <usr13> examfile?
[10:29] <A[D] minS> its just file .vce
[10:29] <A[D] minS> forget exam file  lol
[10:29] <usr13> A[D] minS: But what type of file has extension .vce?
[10:30] <usr13> A[D] minS: What type of file are you wanting to open?
[10:31] <A[D] minS> Visual CertExam Suite
[10:31] <darkchr0n0s> http://filext.com/file-extension/vce
[10:39] <zenum> hey, i just downloaded kubunty gutsy beta and find that all the fonts are huge... is there a way to fix this in the live cd? I wan't to do a demo of gutsy  before installing it.
[10:39] <slackern> !gutsy | zenum
[10:39] <ubotu> zenum: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <ikonia> zenum support is in #ubntu+1
[10:40] <mojo_> i have 1 question regarding recompiling ubuntu kernel
[10:40] <mojo_> I followed this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:40] <ikonia> mojo_ from previous conversations with you I advise against it
[10:40] <zenum> ikonia: thanks
[10:40] <mojo_> ikonia: this time I tried the Ubuntu way
[10:40] <ikonia> mojo_ as you are not at a point where you will benifit from doing so
[10:40] <mojo_> ikonia: not the make-kpkg way
[10:40] <ikonia> mojo_ it doesn't matter, why do you want to recompile the kernel ?
[10:40] <ikonia> mojo_ what is your need to recompile the kernel
[10:40] <mojo_> ikonia: I got the PX10000G mainboard
[10:41] <ikonia> mojo_ does that cause issues ?
[10:41] <mojo_> ikonia: and I need to apply some patches
[10:41] <ikonia> mojo_ for what ?
[10:41] <mojo_> ikonia: its still in -nm
[10:41] <ikonia> in -nm ?
[10:41] <mojo_> ikonia: sound patch and other minor issues
[10:41] <mojo_> ikonia: -nm tree
[10:42] <mojo_> ikonia: -mm
[10:42] <ikonia> just looking at the board requirments now
[10:42] <mojo_> ikonia: sorry
[10:42] <ikonia> mojo_ yes, Andrw Mortons banch
[10:42] <ikonia> branch
[10:42] <mojo_> ikonia: ya
[10:43] <ikonia> mojo_ is this the via board ? for the epia
[10:43] <mojo_> ikonia: yaes
[10:44] <ikonia> mojo_ is your problem with the mojo_
[10:44] <ikonia> oops
[10:44] <mojo_> ikonia: ?
[10:44] <ikonia> mojo_ is your problem with the Via VX700 Unified Digital Media IGP chipset
[10:44] <mojo_> ikonia: yup
[10:44] <hgjjjf> i need a keyboard that is usb ported and has a play/pause/stop button and sound button for music and does not have a cd to install it and is linux usable anyone know of one like that?
[10:45] <ikonia> hgjjjf pretty much any keyboard
[10:45] <mojo_> hgjjjf: find the Internet Keyboard from Microsoft
[10:45] <hgjjjf> ikonia:  ones at walmart comes with  cd and works for winblows
[10:46] <ikonia> mojo_ there is no support for the VX700 chipset in Andre Mortons branch
[10:46] <mojo_> hgjjjf: or Dell latitude keyboard
[10:46] <ikonia> hgjjjf 1.) its called windows 2.) have you checked its linux compatability before syaing "it doesn't work"
[10:46] <mojo_> ikonia: the viaarena told me it's going in now for consideration
[10:46] <ikonia> its not in now though
[10:46] <mojo_> ikonia: I get the patch directly from viaarena
[10:47] <mojo_> ikonia: and need to recompile the kernel to make it work
[10:47] <hgjjjf> ikonia:  they have .exe cd's
[10:47] <ikonia> mojo_ I strongly advise against that at the moment, as patching a development kernel is fighting a hard battle
[10:47] <ikonia> hgjjjf that measns nothing
[10:47] <hgjjjf> ikonia: .exe cd's to install thm i got one means nothing my butt
[10:48] <mojo_> ikonia: i know, I am working on final year project here which involve optimizing that board in Linux
[10:48] <ikonia> hgjjjf having .exe's on the cd means nothing, check if the keyboard is supported under linux
[10:48] <hgjjjf> ikonia:  i have
[10:48] <ikonia> mojo_ thats weak planning making a project on a board thats not supported
[10:48] <mojo_> ikonia: so you should understand y i insist going thru hardship
[10:48] <ikonia> hgjjjf is it supported ?
[10:48] <ikonia> mojo_ no I don't
[10:48] <hgjjjf> ikonia:  if it where i wouldnt be here would i
[10:48] <mojo_> ikonia: heh, I dont have option, my professor gave it to me and make me work on it
[10:48] <ikonia> hgjjjf where did you check
[10:49] <mojo_> ikonia: smart ass he is
[10:49] <ikonia> mojo_ then complain to the lecturer that is an impossible project unless you are capable of writing device drivers your elf
[10:49] <mojo_> ikonia: well then I hope you understand my situation and answer my question
[10:49] <magic_ninja> !zix
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <magic_ninja> anyone ever heard of zix compression
[10:50] <ikonia> mojo_ no, I'm sorry I don't, I find it hard to believe that a university would ask you to optimise linux on a board that is not supported even in the development branches
[10:50] <ikonia> magic_ninja sorry no
[10:50] <mojo_> ikonia: the question is "how come the linux-meta (source package of linux-source) does not contain 'config' folder?"
[10:50] <ikonia> mojo_ because there is no such thing as "config" folder
[10:50] <Zoiks> I have a question about softraid
[10:50] <ikonia> Zoiks go for it
[10:50] <Zoiks> anyone know anything aou them?
[10:51] <ikonia> Zoiks sure
[10:51] <Zoiks> ok.. by the looks of it.. ubuntu support for fakeraid is horrific
[10:51] <mojo_> ikonia: arg, refer to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:51] <ikonia> Zoiks no - fake raid support on linux is horrible,  not ubuntu
[10:51] <Zoiks> lol
[10:51] <mojo_> ikonia: it said there is a list of config files match the platforms
[10:52] <Zoiks> anyway, if I was to create a soft raid within linux
[10:52] <hgjjjf> mojo u join me in room #wwed please i want to link some sites but dont wana flood this room
[10:52] <ikonia> mojo_ are you patches compatible with the current linux kernel  ?
[10:52] <Zoiks> obviously I would not be able to access these raids from windows (I dual boot) would I?
[10:52] <mojo_> ikonia: ofcoz
[10:52] <kahrytan> mojo_,  your a dev'er?
[10:52] <ikonia> mojo_ sorry, I'll re-phrase that, are you patches compatiable with the fesity ubuntu patches kernel source ?
[10:53] <mojo_> kahrytan: my group are, not me alone
[10:53] <mojo_> ikonia: yes it is
[10:53] <ikonia> Zoiks correct
[10:53] <kahrytan> what group is that
[10:53] <ikonia> mojo_ where are you looking for the config folder ?
[10:53] <magic_ninja> ikonia: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/727567.html
[10:53] <kahrytan> im to lazy to contact gnome dev'ers
[10:53] <Zoiks> but, would I be able to access those drives using the ext2 driver for windows?
[10:53] <mojo_> kahrytan: a group of students @ Melbourne University Australia
[10:53] <ikonia> Zoiks no
[10:53] <kahrytan> i got feature suggestion for gnome
[10:54] <magic_ninja> if you ever run into something with a zix compression, that will come in handy, basically its a scam just change the file extension
[10:54] <ikonia> !offtopic > kahrytan
[10:54] <Zoiks> why is that ikonia, I thought that it would be able to becasue the driver would just see them as 2 drives
[10:54] <mojo_> kahrytan: this is a bit offtpic, what I suggest you is to file a bug on GNOME bugzilla
[10:54] <hjmills> hi all, i accidentally deleted my .gnome2 folder (don't ask) - is it possible to recover it from an ext3 filesystem?
[10:55] <mojo_> kahrytan: or write me a good proposal HTML page, then I file the bug for u
[10:55] <ikonia> Zoiks because it would corrupt your raid, The meta drivce or "raid" device is constructed by the linux kernel that windows can't use as windows is running, so you'd have to mount a single drive which would put your raid state into corruption
[10:55] <ikonia> mojo_ where are you looking for the config directory ?
[10:55] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: it will be recreated when you login again!
[10:55] <ikonia> hjmills no
[10:55] <hjmills> gOLdenHaWK3D, I would quite like my settings (mainly evolution) back
[10:55] <ikonia> hjmills they are gone
[10:56] <mojo_> ikonia: I haven't tried the Ubuntu way of compiling kernel, so far I *JUST* follow the tutorial, normally I use make-kpkg way
[10:56] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: sorry, they are gone now!
[10:56] <ikonia> mojo_ are you following the guide you sent me the link for  ?
[10:56] <hjmills> ikonia, ok then, must be murphey's law - I was just sorting out my PC yesterday in readiness for a backup today...
[10:56] <hjmills> gOLdenHaWK3D, thanks
[10:56] <nosklo> hjmills: unless you used nautilus to delete them, and they are in your trash folder, they are gone
[10:56] <hjmills> ikonia, thanks
[10:56] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: np :)
[10:56] <mojo_> ikonia: yes
[10:57] <kahrytan> nosklo, unless you got delete command in nautilus
[10:57] <hjmills> nosklo, I did use nautilus, but then I emptied that and just as it disappeared I noticed it and thought "wait a moment, I didn't want to delete that"
[10:57] <ikonia> mojo_ ok - so where are you looking for the config directory listed in that guide
[10:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: Yes, nosklo is right
[10:57] <hgjjjf> anyone know if this is linux usable http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5740936#Shipping+%26+Delivery
[10:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: did you empty your Trash after that?
[10:57] <mojo_> ikonia: refer to 'Modifying the source for your needs' part
[10:57] <kahrytan> gOLdenHaWK3D, when did he just say?
[10:57] <hgjjjf> sorry this one http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5740936
[10:57] <Zoiks> ikonia: makes sense, so if thats the case really the only options are to buy a proper hardware raid card (not happeninging, im a student) or make sure i have nothing on the softraid that windows cannot access
[10:58] <hjmills> gOLdenHaWK3D, thats what i was doing when I watched it disappear
[10:58] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hjmills: ohhh!
[10:58] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, it could be.. let me check
[10:58] <indraveni> hi all
[10:58] <indraveni> In my sony laptop, i am not able to use the Fn + F5 for brightness
[10:58] <indraveni> how can i make them to work ? I am using Debian sid
[10:59] <hjmills> I might file a bug as I was trying to delete several other hidden folders in my home dir (some of which refused to delete with no error message) and I definitely never clicked delete on the .gnome2 dir
[11:00] <hjmills> holy cow - I really have lost everything!
[11:00] <ikonia> mojo_ ok - so where are you looking for the config directory listed in that guide
[11:00] <ikonia> hjmills that will be user error - not a bug
[11:00] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, it'll work as standard keyboard. but not media keys
[11:00] <mojo_> ikonia: what I want to do know, is to create my own flavor config file called config.c7
[11:01] <Robert-AU> OK - this is about the silliest question I have ever asked but, Is there a way to scroll down to the bottom of a window that is bigger than my screen? The window wont let me resize it and it won't move above the top panel.
[11:01] <ikonia> mojo_ no you don't
[11:01] <hjmills> ikonia, surely it is a bug if it deletes a folder other than the one I click on?
[11:01] <mojo_> ikonia: why not?
[11:01] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, check out http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/dl-keyboards.php
[11:01] <nosklo> hjmills: if you are able to reproduce it, it is a bug
[11:01] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  u know one will and with media keys?
[11:01] <ikonia> mojo_ first - where ar eyou looking for the config directory
[11:01] <mojo_> ikonia: since I want to create a distinctive config file for my project
[11:01] <ikonia> hgjjjf most media keys can be configured using xorg
[11:01] <mojo_> ikonia: in /debian of linux-meta
[11:01] <hjmills> nosklo, a good test but i really don't want to...
[11:01] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, the link.
[11:02] <ikonia> mojo_ ok - so have you found the .config file for the other archs ?
[11:02] <nosklo> hjmills: create a user just for that if you feel
[11:02] <hjmills> nosklo, now thats a good idea - I might just do that
[11:02] <mojo_> ikonia: There are even NO 'config' folder in 'debian', how weird is that?
[11:02] <nosklo> hjmills: you may want to use some session video recorder like istambul
[11:02] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  im in it thnks nd ikonia is it hard?
[11:02] <dejx>  ok i know this is offtopic, but is there any help channel for LCD monitors (lg's more specific)
[11:02] <ikonia> mojo_ there is no config directory ?
[11:02] <[nrx] > does ubotu have a command to search for a package in repos?
[11:02] <mojo_> ikonia: only some control and rules file are in 'debian'
[11:02] <mojo_> ikonia: ya
[11:03] <mojo_> ikonia: that's why I ask
[11:03] <ikonia> mojo_ what directory are you looking in for the kernel-source
[11:03] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, if the space or enter dont do it then I am not sure
[11:03] <ikonia> !apt >[nrx] 
[11:03] <nailor_> i am once again fighting with my mouses thumb buttons and found this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gui-mouse-configuration ... how would i know if this is still being worke on? seems a bit outdated (comment about getting it done for feisty)
[11:03] <[nrx] > ikonia: i know what apt is, thanks
[11:03] <hjmills> nosklo, a quick test says I cant repeat it so I will put it down to being a luser and trying to do too much to quickly
[11:03] <ikonia> [nrx]  then why did you ask for a command to search teh repo's if you know what apt is
[11:03] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, keytouch can configure it for you
[11:04] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, Control minus might make the text smaller therefore you may be able to read more
[11:04] <hjmills> [nrx] , man apt-cache
[11:04] <[nrx] > no, i asked if ubotu has a command that can search for package names
[11:04] <[nrx] > oh ffs
[11:04] <[nrx] > forget it
[11:04] <mojo_> ikonia: in 'debian'
[11:04] <hjmills> [nrx] , I think it might be info
[11:04] <ikonia> mojo_ no - what directory is the kernel source in ?
[11:04] <hjmills> !info ubuntu-base
[11:04] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: thanks i'll try that
[11:04] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-base does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:04] <[nrx] > hjmills: thanks
[11:04] <[nrx] > that's what i was after
[11:05] <mojo_> ikonia: ah, i extract /usr/src/linux-source-2.6**** to my home folder
[11:05] <hgjjjf> so kahrytan if i get this http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5740936 and use keytouch it will get the media working?
[11:05] <ikonia> mojo_ thats not the ubuntu source
[11:05] <mojo_> ikonia: oh the source one
[11:06] <ikonia> mojo_ where did you get that kernel source ?
[11:06] <mojo_> ikonia: after exec 'sudo apt-get source linux-source', the linux-meta-2.6xxxx appears in my home folder and it contains the 'debian'
[11:06] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: nope :(  (its a window for a gimp plugin)
[11:06] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, why dont you upgrade to http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5238379
[11:06] <mojo_> ikonia: apt-get install linux-source
[11:06] <ikonia> mojo_ ok - no I see
[11:07] <ikonia> mojo_ "now" I see, not no I see
[11:07] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, Are you in Gimp??
[11:07] <mojo_> ikonia: hold sec, I have to open door for my housemates, brb
[11:07] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: yes
[11:07] <Sebouille> Hi, very basic question, when I have several windows opened and one requires attention (blinking in the bottom bar), how do I make this window active? Currently I click on it on the bottom bar but  it minimises it and I have to click on it another time to get the focus on it. Is there a quicker way? Thanks a lot!
[11:07] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  ok but will keytouch get it working
[11:07] <wi1> hi, from time to time i lose my wlan connection. the only program that notifies me is the mail notification applet, while gaim and even the network manager act like nothing happened. anyway, when this happens, i don't know how to reconnect. the network manager won't do anything, i always have to reboot! there's gotta be a nicer way (?)
[11:08] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, the one in my link is in the keytouch list
[11:08] <ikonia> Sebouille sounds like there is a popup behind it
[11:08] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  i ask so if i do online buy ill know before hand
[11:08] <wi1> Sebouille: alr+tab?
[11:08] <[nrx] > is there a package to install all the relevant python modules.. including all dependencies?
[11:08] <wi1> Sebouille: alt*
[11:08] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, Like you I do not no how but I am sure if you mess with the prefs/settings you will get to resize the window somehow
[11:08] <ikonia> [nrx]  most of the python modules will be listed by name, so search for the name you want
[11:08] <Sebouille> alr+tab is ok, but slow to go through the different tabs when i have different windows open...
[11:09] <[nrx] > ikonia: the problem is, everyone i try moans about unmet dependencies
[11:09] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  thanks
[11:09] <ikonia> [nrx]  which one are you trying to install ?
[11:09] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, didnt you look at the keyboard list at keytouch?
[11:09] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: yeah i'll have to have a good poke around, probably could at least see the rest if i had a beryl cube
[11:09] <ikonia> kahrytan of course not, he wants you to do it for him
[11:09] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, maybe not control just the minus key
[11:09] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  yea somwhat
[11:10] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, Good luck
[11:10] <kahrytan> ikonia, be nice
[11:10] <[nrx] > ikonia: well, i'm trying to get the vodafone-linux-client-driver thing running, but it needs python etc
[11:10] <ikonia> [nrx]  what python does it need ?
[11:10] <hjmills> wi1, have you tried restarting the network manager service?
[11:10] <[nrx] > ikonia: a whole host of them.. python-this, python-that, python-something else
[11:11] <XamDM> is ther a helpchannel for gutsy available ??
[11:11] <ikonia> [nrx]  can you be specific
[11:11] <ikonia> XamDM ubuntu+1
[11:11] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: thanks (i might have to have a look at the source - shouldn't be two bad, its just one window :) )
[11:11] <[nrx] > ikonia: not without spending 15 minutes noting them all down
[11:11] <wi1> hjmills: yes, all it does is waiting for an ip
[11:11] <XamDM> ikonia, thx
[11:11] <[nrx] > ikonia: which is why i was on about a general package :)
[11:11] <ikonia> [nrx]  ok, can't help then
[11:11] <[nrx] > ok
[11:11] <ikonia> [nrx] there isn't a meta package for them all
[11:11] <hjmills> wi1, hmm, odd - can u get an ip manually (using dhclient)?
[11:11] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, ok :-)
[11:12] <wi1> hjmills: hmm i think it may be a bug in ndiswrapper... when i do ifconfig i don't have the wlan0 device anymore when it happens
[11:12] <wi1> hjmills: i'm gonna look into that
[11:13] <hjmills> wi1, Ah ok,  I don't have much knowledge of ndiswrapper, sorry
[11:13] <koshari>  anyone know how to add objects from the partlibrary in qcad?
[11:14] <wi1> no worries
[11:14] <hjmills> what secure authentication method is best for use with a mail server in evolution?
[11:14] <ikonia> hjmills depends what your server supports
[11:15] <vmlinuz`> Hey, anybody play CSS Steam here? I was trying to run it in none full screen mode with wine. anybody know how.
[11:15] <spiderpig> when i started ubuntu today my screen settings is 640 x 480 and i cant change it to higher like 840 x 600  what happend?
[11:15] <spiderpig> yeaserday it was higher
[11:15] <hjmills> ikonia, apparently it supports all the protocols evolution supports, password, ntlm/spa, gssapi, digest-md5 and cram-md5
[11:16] <ikonia> hjmills they arn't protocols, they are just password authentication encyption, so you can only use which one your server is configued with
[11:16] <jxxxt> wil, Have a listen to this it may help you   http://www.linuxreality.com/podcast/episode-52-wireless-networking-basics/
[11:16] <hjmills> ikonia, ah ok, thanks
[11:17] <hjmills> jxxxt, its confusing but wil is spelt with a 1 so its wi1
[11:18] <jxxxt> hjmills, thanks I will try again
[11:18] <wi1> jxxxt: yeah, sry, pidgin does that :( but thanks!
[11:18] <kahrytan> hjmills, do you use evolution calender?
[11:18] <spiderpig> anyoanyone know why in gods name my screen resolution is lower today when i start my computer and why i cannot change into higher?
[11:18] <hjmills> kahrytan, yes, a slightly odd setup but I do use it
[11:18] <ikonia> spiderpig 1.) what video card do you have 2.) what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:18] <jxxxt> wi1,  OK
[11:19] <spiderpig> ikonia i have nvidia and it is enabled and i am on feisty fawn 7,04
[11:19] <spiderpig> and it freakin worked yeasterday
[11:19] <kahrytan> hjmills, then check out gdeskcal. :-P puts calender on desktop and shows the schedules you added in evolution calender
[11:19] <ikonia> spiderpig ok - calm down - don't get excited
[11:19] <ikonia> spiderpig lets check if your nvidia kernel module is loaded, can you do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia"
[11:20] <spiderpig> ikonia one moment please... ill try.
[11:20] <hjmills> kahrytan, is that part of gdesklets?
[11:20] <kahrytan> hjmills, no.
[11:21] <hjmills> kahrytan, ok, thanks
[11:21] <kahrytan> hjmills, i use it for tv programs. I mouseover dates to see what's on
[11:21] <Greek_Samurai> good morning people. I've been reading the forums and checking on ati.com for drivers again and again. It seems there is no driver for my x1950. Any ideas? (except from the one that suggest i change my gpu ;-p )
[11:21] <spiderpig> ikonia i get this -> Password:Usage: command-not-found [flaggor]  <kommandonamn>
[11:21] <spiderpig> command-not-found: error: no such option: -i
[11:21] <spiderpig> bash: -i: kommandot hittades inte
[11:21] <kahrytan> spiderpig, Spiderpig, Spiderpig, does whatever a Spiderpig does.
[11:22] <ikonia> spiderpig what command did you use ?
[11:22] <spiderpig> the one you told me
[11:22] <spiderpig>  lsmod grep | -i nvidia
[11:22] <ikonia> spiderpig can you please repeate the command to me
[11:22] <spiderpig> there
[11:22] <ikonia> spiderpig thats not what I told you to do
[11:22] <ikonia> spiderpig lets check if your nvidia kernel module is loaded, can you do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia"
[11:23] <spiderpig> um tell me in plain english what i should do then
[11:23] <ikonia> spiderpig lets check if your nvidia kernel module is loaded, can you do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia"
[11:23] <spiderpig> i cant know what other people are thinking
[11:23] <ikonia> spiderpig I'm giving you the exact command to type
[11:23] <ljhglkuyfjv> i have recently installed ubuntu on a computer without internet access (so it's still a completely fresh install). i'd like to be able to play mp3's on it, is it possible to download some files to my usb stick right now and install them (offline) once iam back home ?
[11:23] <ikonia> spiderpig in plain english
[11:23] <spiderpig> ikonia and i used that command
[11:23] <ikonia> ljhglkuyfjv you'll need to go to the ubuntu repo's on line
[11:23] <spiderpig> wtf?
[11:23] <ikonia> spiderpig you didn't
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig don't use offensive langauge like "wtf"
[11:24] <jimmity> Hey
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig you type the command wrong
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig pay attention to what I send you
[11:24] <Mortice> ljhglkuyfjv: short answer: yes. long answer: let me find out what packages you need :)
[11:24] <ikonia> Mortice thanks
[11:24] <jimmity> How might i a) add an additional IP address to a ubuntu machine. eg eth0:0, and b) how might i install a package such as ensim automatically?
[11:24] <spiderpig>  lsmod grep | -i nvidia <- this is what you told me
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig no its not
[11:24] <spiderpig> well what is it then
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig lets check if your nvidia kernel module is loaded, can you do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia"
[11:24] <ikonia> spiderpig read it again
[11:24] <ljhglkuyfjv> Mortice: thanks :D
[11:25] <spiderpig> um is ikonia a bot?
[11:25] <spiderpig> someone need to kick it
[11:25] <ikonia> spiderpig no I'm not
[11:25] <ikonia> spiderpig I'm giving you the comman d you need to type and you've following
[11:26] <bazzieb> does anyone have any documentation on joining ubuntu 7.04 to ADS?
[11:26] <spiderpig> ok i did wrong. sorry about that. just woke up. anyway i got this now
[11:26] <spiderpig> nvidia               4713780  22
[11:26] <spiderpig> i2c_core               22656  3 i2c_ec,nvidia,i2c_viapro
[11:26] <spiderpig> agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,via_agp
[11:27] <ikonia> bazzieb samba is the only real option
[11:27] <bazzieb> only samba?
[11:27] <bazzieb> sorry i am a newby
[11:27] <ikonia> spiderpig ok, so look for the driver line in your xorg.conf file, see what it says
[11:27] <vmlinuz`> what a good media player that runs in System tray?
[11:28] <ikonia> bazzieb thats fine, Redhat do an open ldap product that can work, but nothing really in ubuntu, you have to use samba and lda, and it can only act as an auth slave
[11:28] <spiderpig> and where is xorg.conf located?
[11:28] <ikonia> spiderpig /etc/X11
[11:28] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, I like using music-applet with rhythmbox. another good music player that keeps out of your way is mpd
[11:28] <spiderpig> k
[11:28] <bazzieb> i have seen it work on redhat
[11:28] <ikonia> bazzieb yeah, thats their directory service product
[11:28] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: both of them runs in system tray?
[11:29] <bazzieb> would i be able to replicate the config on Ubuntu?
[11:29] <Mortice> ljhglkuyfjv: assuming you're using ubuntu rather than kubuntu, you need to get the gstreamer-plugins-ugly, details of which can be found here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libs/gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[11:29] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, mpd runs as a daemon in the background but the gmpc client can run in the system tray, rhythmbox can minimise to the tray
[11:29] <ikonia> bazzieb not really no, you can get it to join as a slave with samba and ldap
[11:29] <EStorm> anyone know of any software that can copy videos to/from an ipod, except for GTKpod? (gtkpod-aac is broken in gutsy)
[11:29] <Mortice> ljhglkuyfjv: You need to download that package and each of the packages upon which it depends - will get a download link for you
[11:29] <ikonia> bazzieb but you can't get it to "participate" as you could with redhat
[11:29] <spiderpig> ikonia ok so what should i be looking for in /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[11:29] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: Thank you.
[11:29] <xerophyte> how can i attach screen session without reattaching ?
[11:29] <ikonia> vmlinuz the linux that says driver
[11:30] <Auckla> Going to take a dive in Unbuntu7.10
[11:30] <ikonia> oops
[11:30] <Auckla> Can't wait.
[11:30] <Auckla> Found one blank cd!
[11:30] <bazzieb> ok
[11:30] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, most players have tray plugins at the least
[11:30] <ikonia> spiderpig the driver linux
[11:30] <ljhglkuyfjv> Mortice thank you
[11:30] <Auckla> Last version of Ubuntu I tried was like 5 or 6 or somthing.
[11:30] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: players?
[11:30] <bazzieb> i actually just want the rest of the user to be able to view a shared drive
[11:30] <vmlinuz`> ikonia: what
[11:30] <spiderpig> ikonia the driver for my graphics card?
[11:31] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, most music players (video players in the tray are a tad useless)
[11:31] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: no i like listen to music while my player runs in tray and i play games ;] 
[11:31] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, exaile, banshee, listen, and rhythmbox all do
[11:31] <ikonia> spiderpig spot on
[11:31] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, try mpd
[11:31] <rico> what ipod player would you guys recommend?
[11:31] <Mortice> ljhglkuyfjv: please bear with me, I'm going to upload the required packages to my webspace for you. Are you running feisty?
[11:31] <hjmills> rico, you mean program to sync with your ipod?
[11:32] <rico> well, syncing would be good but im more after just simply being able to play songs from it
[11:32] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: hm I think i like rhythmbox. will give mpd a try later
[11:32] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: how to make ryhthmbox be my default media player?
[11:32] <kahrytan> rico, none.
[11:32] <rico> ...none?
[11:33] <GNine> banshee here
[11:33] <ljhglkuyfjv> Mortice iam running 7.04
[11:33] <kahrytan> rico,but if you fell for the hyper, gtkpod
[11:33] <rico> vmlinuz`, what do you mean default? you mean  have rhythmbox open when you doubleclick an mp3 from nautilus?
[11:33] <kahrytan> *hype
[11:33] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, it is the default player in ubuntu but if you have changed it then just right click any music file and open properties and set it to open with rhythmbox
[11:33] <rico> gtkpod didn't work for my 5.5g ipod :/
[11:33] <vmlinuz`> rico: yep
[11:33] <spiderpig> ikonia: Driver"nvidia"
[11:33] <vmlinuz`> hjmills: I haven't change anything
[11:33] <spiderpig> this is what i found and i also found alot of text on screen mode
[11:33] <kahrytan> gtkpod does a nice job at syncing playlist.
[11:33] <hjmills> vmlinuz`, then you are all set
[11:33] <vmlinuz`> but whenever i click on an mp3, it works with video player or something.
[11:34] <rico> vmlinuz`, right click an mp3 in your file manager, properties, open with, rhythmbox
[11:34] <kahrytan> rico, You should try out the Sandisk Sansa players instead. they have SD slots.
[11:34] <hjmills> rico, gtkpod is the best for the newer ipods most definitely - my g/f got a new shuffle and the other programs I tried (banshee and rhythmbox) just couldnt cope
[11:34] <vmlinuz`> thanks rico
[11:34] <vmlinuz`> it always opens with "Movie player"
[11:34] <vmlinuz`> hahaha
[11:35] <kahrytan> hjmills, and gtkpod is more compatible with itunes.
[11:35] <spiderpig> ikonia are you still here mate?
[11:35] <hjmills> kahrytan, yeah
[11:35] <vmlinuz`> hm, why would it close when i click on "X" ? It doesn't go to system tray
[11:35] <kahrytan> hjmills, the default ubuntu uses, it corruptes the db and itunes erases it.
[11:35] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:35] <rico> try minimizing
[11:36] <hjmills> rico, if it is a new ipod make sure you read up on the new apple bullsh*t encryption
[11:36] <ikonia> spiderpig yes
[11:36] <ikonia> hjmills what language is uncalled for
[11:36] <kahrytan> hjmills, but i refuse to buy anyone ipod now
[11:36] <spiderpig> ikonia so you have any ideas what should be changed in the /etc/x11/xorg.conf ?
[11:36] <kahrytan> hjmills, anything ipod
[11:36] <spiderpig> to fix this
[11:36] <ikonia> spiderpig what is your driver line
[11:36] <ubuntu_> ipod
[11:36] <ubuntu_> driver line
[11:37] <kahrytan> !hi | ubuntu_
[11:37] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:37] <ikonia> ubuntu_ please stop repeating everything
[11:37] <rico> oh.. gtkpod reads my music but doesn't quite play it. I think it needs xmms?
[11:37] <ubuntu_> just for joking man
[11:37] <kahrytan> rico, it doesnt play it. uses xmms or audacious
[11:37] <ikonia> ubuntu_ this channel is a support channel only for the ubuntu operating system
[11:37] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  how do i use the keytouch info?
[11:38] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, never used it really.
[11:38] <ubuntu_> want any help?
[11:38] <spiderpig> ikonia should i change my frequency range?
[11:38] <hgjjjf> kahrytan:  ok thanks
[11:38] <kahrytan> hgjjjf, so read the documentation.
[11:38] <ikonia> spiderpig no - what is your driver line
[11:38] <ybotk> If you post an online comment on a webpage. Kinda like a blog. Is it possible to find an i.p. for the online poster?
[11:38] <spiderpig> ikonia just like this : Drive "nvidia"
[11:38] <ikonia> spiderpig perfect
[11:38] <ikonia> spiderpig its that the line, yes
[11:39] <kahrytan> ybotk, server admin can. Link post time to server logs.
[11:39] <spiderpig> Section "Device"
[11:39] <spiderpig> Identifier"nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] "
[11:39] <ikonia> spiderpig perfect
[11:39] <spiderpig> ikonia ok now what?
[11:39] <hjmills> ikonia, sorry
[11:39] <ikonia> spiderpig ok - you'll be best to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it will ask you some questions (such as resolution) and set it all up for you
[11:39] <kahrytan> rico, I prefer audacious. it's a fork of xmms.
[11:40] <ybotk> guess not..
[11:40] <spiderpig> ikonia ok
[11:40] <hjmills> kahrytan, i was even planning to get an ipod if my zen ever dies as it is possible to sync with the calendar and notes on them from linux but if apple continues as they are then there is no chance
[11:40] <pejo_> hello
[11:40] <ardin> hey hey, quick question. i need to install the nvidia driver for my card, a Geforce4MX. i attempted to do what i usually do, and run the official nvidia driver, and it said i'm missing Libc... is there package for this or whats going on?
[11:41] <hjmills> ardin, you probably need the libc dev package
[11:41] <rico> yes, there's a package for libc
[11:42] <ardin> well no i mean is there a package for ubuntu in the package manager thing? or should i just grab the libc dev package and do it the normal way? sorry, i'm coming from slackware and having to do all of this manually
[11:42] <Auckla> 75% Of Download is finished. Oooh been awhile since I've had linux as a desktop. :P
[11:42] <Auckla> Last time I was using Ubuntu, I installed this program called Ardor. Great recording program.
[11:42] <vmlinuz`> woh
[11:42] <spiderpig> ikonia done and done. do i need to restart my computer in order for changes to take place?
[11:42] <vmlinuz`> who plays css.. i cant get it to run in none full screen w/ wine
[11:42] <Crozar> guys i cant see the maximize minimize that bar ontop of a windows , imusing compiz .
[11:43] <Auckla> I play Css but not on Linux.
[11:43] <garette> Hi all can anyone help me in installing boot splash
[11:43] <rico> Crozar, do you know what window decorator you're using? Emerald, perhaps?
[11:43] <garette> !bootsplash
[11:43] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: on what
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <Auckla> You have to wine CSS to play it?
[11:43] <garette> !usplash
[11:43] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:43] <Crozar> rico: compiz-fusion with emerald
[11:43] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: I do. any other way
[11:43] <rico> Crozar, go run emerald --replace &
[11:43] <Crozar> rico: im on gusty
[11:43] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Is it required to use wine to play CSS?
[11:43] <vmlinuz`> yep
[11:44] <hjmills> Auckla, or cedega
[11:44] <rico> CSS - counterstrike source? it works under wine?! o_O
[11:44] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Are you playing it off of a native windos partition?
[11:44] <Lr5> !irqpoll
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irqpoll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> rico: yea I play it everyday
[11:44] <garette> rico 1.6 works ;)
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> rico: and WoW too
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: I'm playing it from linux dude
[11:44] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: I'm just wondering here, becuase I"m wondering how I'm going to play CSS when I install Ubuntu here. :P
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: hehe, you just easily need to install wine but carefully
[11:44] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: What did you wine the windows installer etc etc? :)
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> and tahoma.ttf fonts
[11:45] <vmlinuz`> that all you need
[11:45] <garette> hey can anyone help me in installing a bootsplash
[11:45] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: yep. "wine steam.exe"
[11:45] <Ardin> oh wow, no wonder i was having issues. i was using the package manager instead of "add/remove"
[11:45] <Ardin> god, i'm so used to normal linux
[11:45] <vmlinuz`> the thing that i'd love to do now, is to run css in non full screen mode. but I can't make that happen
[11:45] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: I'm not to woreid about it. Do yu think its possible to play Css VIA wine off of a NTFS partition?
[11:45] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: hmm, not sure. but maybe yea
[11:45] <Auckla> Ardin: Normal Linux?
[11:46] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: I remember one time i played world of warcraft from my linux pc when WoW was installed in my EXternal ntfs partition
[11:46] <Ardin> Auckla, stuff like slackware, with no package manager or anything
[11:46] <Crozar> rico: i did some twaeks that i did for my xorg.conf file and some other things that made my window panel show ontop of the window but i have updated to gusty . and does gusty have built in compiz? if so i think i did a mistake because i havent uninstalled compiz and emerald before going to gusty and now with gusty when i uninstall compiz i still see the icon ontop. thought of reinstalling it.
[11:46] <Auckla> Ardin: I see.
[11:46] <rico> gutsy has built in compiz, yes
[11:46] <Ardin> i'm just trying to get things installed, then i'm gonna copy over my old home directory
[11:46] <Ardin> lol
[11:46] <rico> did you have compiz before installing gusty?
[11:46] <Crozar> yes :(
[11:46] <garette> hey rico can you help me insalling a boot splash :(
[11:47] <Auckla> 5minutes!!!
[11:47] <rico> did you completely remove it before upgrading?
[11:47] <ikonia> !usplash >garette
[11:47] <rico> garette, install startup-manager
[11:47] <Crozar> rico:  no :(
[11:47] <Crozar> rico:  am i in trouble
[11:47] <garette> ikonia, that how to didn't help me to install this particulat usplash
[11:47] <rico> oops, startupmanager (no hyphen). find it in synaptic or just apt-get instal lit
[11:48] <Crozar> rico your a trainee?
[11:48] <Crozar> im looking for an expert
[11:48] <rico> garette, after that, just go to system -> admin -> startup manager and you can install/choose a boot splash there
[11:48] <rico> no, just a random passerby Crozar :b
[11:48] <garette> rico, it say no such package lol
[11:48] <rico> garette, can you try "startupmanager"?
[11:48] <garette> rico, no :(
[11:48] <spiderpig> ikonia well i did the reconfigure thing and it worked. thanks for the help!
[11:49] <ikonia> spiderpig welcome
[11:49] <rico> eep, i think it's only in gutsy's repositories. anyway, http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/index.html
[11:49] <AntoineDoinel> posso chiedere un aiuto urgente? :(
[11:49] <rico> garette, try installing the .deb from there (and check out the page while you're at it)
[11:49] <dgjones> !it | AntoineDoinel
[11:49] <ubotu> AntoineDoinel: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:50] <wendy-eventide> hi, any one able to use camfrog on ubuntu?
[11:50] <Auckla> Hurray for Jesus the download is done!
[11:51] <garette> rico, yeah doing the same
[11:51] <donkeyboy> when running the live cd (7.04) it dies when it tries to load gdm. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and chose versa and the options I saw on a forum but still no luck. (ATI Mobility Radeon x1600) any ideas? is this fixed in 7.10?
[11:52] <donkeyboy> Once ubuntu is installed, I can get the drivers from amd website
[11:52] <LineOf7s> I'm trying to upgrade my Java runtime to 1.6.  Downloaded and installed per instructions, but it kept using 1.5 - so I uninstalled 1.5, and now it complains there's no such thing as /usr/bin/java.  Uninstalled all Javas I could find, and reinstalled... but same error.  Symlinking didn't seem to work... surely I've missed something straightforward?
[11:52] <donkeyboy> I just need it to run for the install on default driver
[11:53] <garette> !usplash
[11:53] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:54] <erUSUL> !alternate | donkeyboy
[11:54] <ubotu> donkeyboy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:54] <[nrx] > heh, this hsdpa modem rocks!
[11:55] <asma1> hey guys
[11:55] <donkeyboy> ubotu: I am busy downloading the 7.10 beta iso, (desktop edition) will that work?
[11:55] <wilhart> how do i remove fingerd from ubu?
[11:55] <ikonia> donkeyboy its a bot
[11:55] <donkeyboy> ikonia: what?
[11:55] <asma1> all of a sudden ubuntu's graphics got ruined or somethin.. when i start it the logo appears all over hte place and streaky lines everywhere
[11:55] <asma1> it use to work fine
[11:56] <erUSUL> donkeyboy: ubotu is a bot
[11:56] <asma1> any1 know wat could be the problem?
[11:56] <arinomi> donkeyboy, ubotu is an IRC bot :)
[11:56] <garette> rico, like the doubt i have is if i generate .so file from the how to given by ubotu then how iwll i be able to get the verbose mode with a splash to.. cause i will be creating .so file for only non verbose picture, btw, what are those config file.. that came in that tar ball when i downloaded that theme :O
[11:56] <garette> ?
[11:56] <jxxxt> donkeyboy, you cannot hold a chat with ubotu
[11:56] <erUSUL> donkeyboy: it only said what i told it to say
[11:56] <Ardin> i cant wait to play mp3s again
[11:56] <Ardin> then again, before i do that i need to go into my fstab and get that going
[11:56] <LineOf7s> For those of you playing along at home, the answer to my question of before is the console command:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:56] <Ardin> which means i need to grab ntfs-3g
[11:56] <Auckla> Well here I go to install Ubuntu to another drive.
[11:56] <Auckla> I shall see you all hpefully in a few.
[11:57] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: first linux?
[11:57] <donkeyboy> arinomi: :-D ah, and here i was thinking you were being discriminatory because I like chips :-D
[11:57] <asma1> help?
[11:57] <shiznit> hola
[11:57] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Not my first time. I started out with Slakware 4.0 a few years ago. :)
[11:57] <nailor_> is there some tool (or some other possibility) to map mouseclicks to some abitrary action (some other input, executing a script, ...)
[11:57] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: cool
[11:57] <arinomi> donkeyboy, chips are all right ^^
[11:57] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Somewhere along the course of my time in *nix. I started running pretty much only FreeBSD. :)
[11:57] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: you'll love ubuntu
[11:57] <shiznit> is there a 7.10 channel?
[11:58] <Mortice> !ubuntu+1
[11:58] <dgjones> !gutsy | shiznit
[11:58] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:58] <ubotu> shiznit: please see above
[11:58] <ikonia> shiznit yes, but I advise you not to use it
[11:58] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Thast what I"m hoping. Last time I ran ubuntu was like when it frst came out. :P
[11:58] <ikonia> shiznit we discussed this the other day and gsuty beta may be problematic for you
[11:58] <Auckla> vmlinuz`: Anyways brb. :P
[11:58] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: kay
[11:58] <jxxxt> shiznit, ubuntu+1
[11:58] <shiznit> ikonia, againt your advice i did it anyway and it works great
[11:58] <yeats> whens the gutsy stable coming out?
[11:58] <jxxxt> shiznit, my bad  I meant gutsy
[11:59] <shiznit> wireless works after hibernate now, but i did have to reinstall do to automatix messing up the upgrade
[11:59] <shiznit> no more automatix
[11:59] <jxxxt> yeats, 17 oct
[11:59] <yeats> kthnx
[11:59] <GNine> 18 oct
[11:59] <hjmills> what is gutsy+1 going to be called?
[11:59] <yeats> why isnt the release date on the website?
[11:59] <hjmills> or are we back round to hoary hedgehod?
[11:59] <ikonia> yeats because its not final
[12:00] <hjmills> *hedgehog
[12:00] <yeats> hairy babon
[12:00] <jxxxt> hjmills, gutsy gibbon
[12:00] <yeats> *hairy baboon
[12:00] <dgjones> !hardy | hjmills
[12:00] <ubotu> hjmills: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[12:00] <hjmills> dgjones, thanks
[12:00] <yeats> silly seagull
[12:00] <yeats> who comes up with these names?
[12:02] <iamgedanken> will my feisty update to gutsy when the stable release is out?
[12:02] <yeats> yes it will
[12:02] <iamgedanken> rad
[12:02] <yeats> you go into add/remove
[12:02] <amadeux> how do I get mplayer to output unmangled 5.1 audio from a matroska file directly to spdif?
[12:02] <donkeyboy> the more pertinent question is, whats gonna happen after x? will the world end?
[12:02] <yeats> x
[12:03] <donkeyboy> x - with reagrds tp the names
[12:03] <donkeyboy> s/tp/to
[12:04] <asc> well, that's like ten years from now
[12:05] <py_> hello
[12:05] <asc> but probably it will just wrap around
[12:05] <asc> welcome to the pit of despair
[12:05] <py_> I've a dapper server (command line only), and would like to completely deisable any firewalling. Like it can be done with firestarter on a desktop. How can that be done from command line?
[12:06] <wisdom> list
[12:06] <wisdom> hello
[12:06] <wisdom> anyone here?
[12:06] <wisdom> ?
[12:06] <ikonia> about 100000 people
[12:06] <[nrx] > no, all 1118 of us are idle
[12:06] <asc> No, we're all bots.
[12:06] <Jamesinator> How can I set the password for an account being created through useradd?
[12:06] <iamgedanken> hello wisdom
[12:06] <Jamesinator> wisdom: There is no #ubuntu channel
[12:06] <wisdom> hello iamgedanken
[12:07] <asc> py_: Last I heard, the kernel has a built-in firewall. It's never caused any problems whatsoever for me, but....
[12:07] <wisdom> nice to meet you iamgedanken
[12:07] <Jamesinator> !offtopic | wisdom
[12:07] <ubotu> wisdom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:07] <jxxxt> wisdom, if you just want to chat go to ubuntu-offtopic
[12:07] <py_> asc: I know its intergarted in the kernel, (iptables IIRC). But I want to disable any active rule, eg allow everything, for testing purposes. Thus my question...
[12:08] <wisdom> i have problem with wine
[12:08] <wisdom> wine
[12:08] <Jamesinator> wisdom: Then post the problem you're experiencing and someone might be able to help you
[12:08] <iamgedanken> insert alcoholism joke here?
[12:08] <jxxxt> !wine
[12:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:08] <hjmills> i am trying to burn a cd with folders more than 6 directories deep and it refuses to go saying it is too deep - is it possible to avoid this?
[12:08] <wisdom> thanks
[12:09] <amadeux> how do I get mplayer to output unmangled 5.1 audio from a matroska file directly to spdif?
[12:09] <donkeyboy> well just burning 7.10 to cd then gonna  try install it. hopefully it will work with the ATI GC. if I am back later, means it worked :-D
[12:09] <scrimple101> Hi everyone, having trouble with menus after trying to install Avanti Windows Navigator, does anyone know how to uninstall or bring them back to default?
[12:09] <Jamesinator> donkeyboy: Good luck
[12:10] <ADminS> shabab al linux
[12:10] <ADminS> arza3
[12:10] <ADminS> opss
[12:10] <ADminS> wrong window lol
[12:11] <erUSUL> !vpn | MohammadBoozary
[12:11] <ubotu> MohammadBoozary: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[12:11] <spiderpig> oh great even osama bin laden uses linux
[12:11] <asc> py_: Interesting. Although I am out of by depth, to the best of my knowledge it will not block any open ports or connection attempt by default.
[12:11] <wisdom> ubuntu 7.10 release version out?
[12:12] <Jamesinator> !gutsy
[12:12] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:12] <erUSUL> wisdom: not yet 18th Oct
[12:12] <Jamesinator> wisdom: The unstable beta is out -- not recommended for any but the elite to use it before the release date
[12:12] <scrimple101> Hi everyone, having trouble with menus after trying to install Avanti Windows Navigator, does anyone know how to uninstall or bring them back to default?
[12:12] <Jamesinator> Wisdom certainly lives up to his name.
[12:13] <iamgedanken> sure does
[12:13] <tich> does anyone know where i could find a listing of all the ubuntu upgrades with dates and packages installed?
[12:13] <amadeux> When gutsy is released, is it simple to upgrade from feisty? Or will I have to make a clean install?
[12:13] <erUSUL> amadeux: you can upgrade
[12:13] <Jamesinator> amadeux: Fairly simple, you can just use "update-manager -d" to do a feisty-gutsy upgrade
[12:13] <erUSUL> |upgrade | amadeux
[12:13] <erUSUL> !upgrade | amadeux
[12:13] <ubotu> amadeux: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:13] <py_> Is there a command-line (eg non graphical, ncurses is ok) equivalent of firestarter, for use on an ubuntu dapper server?
[12:13] <jxxxt> tich, what about looking in your synaptic package manager
[12:14] <Llivavin> Ubuntu keeps freezing on me causing me to restart anyone have an idea as to why?
[12:14] <tich> jxxxt, really! synaptic lists that jazz that is awesome.
[12:14] <Jamesinator> How can I set the password for an account being created through useradd?
[12:15] <jxxxt> tich, It list everthing that is available in the repos that you have selected
[12:16] <erUSUL> py_: there are conf file iptables front ends that i used that are fairly simple shorewall being the ons that works atm (firehol has a bug since edgy and it's been not patched a shame)
[12:16] <tich> jxxxt, i don't know what i have done but synaptic is crashing.
[12:16] <erUSUL> !info shorewall | py
[12:16] <ubotu> py: shorewall: Shoreline Firewall (Shorewall), a high-level tool for configuring Netfilter. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.6-2 (feisty), package size 244 kB, installed size 1212 kB
[12:16] <py_> erUSUL, thx, will have a look into that package
[12:17] <Jamesinator> How can I set the password for an account being created through useradd?
[12:17] <jxxxt> tich, are you using system/administration/synapticetc
[12:17] <jkwjkw> hi
[12:17] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: sudo passwd loginname
[12:17] <jkwjkw> 
[12:17] <jkwjkw> 
[12:18] <jkwjkw> 
[12:18] <erUSUL> !cn
[12:18] <Jamesinator> !ops | jkwjkw
[12:18] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[12:18] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: This is being created in a script, hence why it has to be done during creation through useradd
[12:18] <ubotu> jkwjkw: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[12:19] <Jamesinator> Aw, crap, I just called ops on someone speaking chinese. Showed up as ??? spam in IRSSI >_>
[12:19] <zeroflag> what's the name of the java package?
[12:19] <jussi01> Jamesinator: dont worry, they will just eat you for breakfast... lol
[12:19] <penguincentral_> Jamesinator: amazing...
[12:19] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: my irssi showed it fine
[12:19] <penguincentral_> :D
[12:19] <erUSUL> !java | zeroflag
[12:19] <ubotu> zeroflag: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:20] <Jamesinator> jussi01: Yeah, that's defnitely never happened to me before from my overzealous ops finger... *shifty eyes*
[12:20] <zeroflag> erUSUL: thanks.
[12:20] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: there is a -p command line option for useradd check the man page
[12:20] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: I tried passing it passwords through there, it doesn't work
[12:20] <zeroflag> !multiverse
[12:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:21] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: they have to be previously encripted afaics
[12:21] <zeroflag> !easysource | zeroflag
[12:21] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: And I would do that how?
[12:21] <zeroflag> !easysource
[12:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:21] <dev1> Hi all! When dhcpd give IP to client can I automatically run some script?
[12:22] <stuart-> hi guys, all of a sudden i have this error of not eing able to play sounds
[12:22] <stuart-> it worked fine hours ago. i have a few other distros on download so i don't wanna disturb em by rebooting
[12:22] <AL37> Jamesinator: man passwd :)
[12:23] <stuart-> video and music says i don't have my soundcard configured
[12:23] <Jamesinator> AL37: Refer back to my previous message, this is being done automatically through a script, hence why it has to be through useradd
[12:23] <giany911> is there any way to run a sudo cmd on startup without having to type the password?
[12:23] <stuart-> and no other program is using the soundcard
[12:23] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: dunno :( i have to investigate it further...
[12:23] <i_r_brad> if i get disconnected, how does my nick stay connected for??
[12:24] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: Ah well, thanks for your help then
[12:24] <asc> giany911: You can put a script in /etc/init.d and use sysv-rc-conf to have it run on startup.
[12:24] <kst> stuart- u could try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart (or reset)
[12:24] <bullgard4> /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules speaks about "permissions and ownership of devices according to Ubuntu policy". Where is this Ubuntu policy defined?
[12:24] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: first return from google http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-write-shell-script-to-add-user.html
[12:25] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: Thanks, just a sec, I'll have to lynx it in tty2
[12:25] <Pradalvr> Hello...can someone tell me if Ubuntu has a swf converter?
[12:25] <stuart-> kst, thansk, but still can't play audio after restarting
[12:25] <erUSUL> Jamesinator: perl -e 'print crypt("password", "salt"),"\n"' <<<< this give you the encripted pass
[12:25] <kst> stuart- try reset then
[12:26] <stuart-> tried both :(
[12:26] <kst> :/
[12:26] <kst> not really a linux expert, that just helped me when i myself had sound issues like 2 weeks ago
[12:26] <stuart-> it asks me to check wether my soundcard is configed properly, the correct output selected, and no other programs using it
[12:26] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: Ahh! Thank you! Let me just test it out now
[12:26] <kst> are you using alsa?
[12:26] <stuart-> but i've checked all 3
[12:26] <bullgard4> /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules spricht von "permissions and ownership of devices according to Ubuntu policy". Wo ist diese Ubuntu policy definiert?
[12:26] <stuart-> yup
[12:27] <kst> sure it's set everywhere?
[12:27] <stuart-> yeah, wonder what could be disturbing it. i have no progs running
[12:27] <stuart-> and all was well a few hours back
[12:28] <kst> weird.
[12:28] <kst> bullgard4 maybe http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[12:29] <erUSUL> bullgard4: the policy is hardwired in the file you mention.
[12:29] <klotho> hello... I have a question about 7.10 beta installer. In the Partitioner, the Guided option to resize a partition -- can that destroy or lose any of the data currently in the partition?
[12:29] <klotho> or is that a dumb question and it destroys all of it?
[12:30] <zeroflag> how can I find out which hdd devices (/dev) are available?
[12:30] <Jamesinator> erUSUL: It works like a charm! Thanks for all your help. :)
[12:31] <LinuxGuy> hump ubuntu
[12:31] <klotho> no one knows the answer to that question?
[12:31] <bullgard4> erUSUL: It may be true that the policy is hardwired in the mentioned file. But someone had an idea about Ubuntu policy before he hardwired this file. Where is this idea about Ubuntu policy laid down?
[12:31] <kst> klotho yes it can
[12:31] <jxxxt> klotho, my experience is that it can and WILL
[12:32] <klotho> kst: so it doesn't compress the drive and then take only the empty space?
[12:32] <erUSUL> klotho: shrinking a partition is not completly risk free...
[12:32] <LinuxGuy> elitechris
[12:32] <kst> at least i think so... i had to resize my partitions aswell (ntfs) but it worked fine when i used defrag and scandisk in windows before
[12:32] <EliteChris> yea
[12:32] <klotho> so I should use some other partitioner to create an empty partition which it can then use?
[12:32] <LinuxGuy> hump ubuntu
[12:32] <LinuxGuy> ???
[12:32] <kst> not sure about the technical details klotho, make a backup then try with defrag/scandisk and resize afterwards
[12:32] <etale> Is it OK to use feisty's synaptic repositories if I'm using gutsy beta now?
[12:33] <ikonia> etale no
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> addcommand hump ame humps $2-
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> hump ubuntu
[12:33] <asma1> how do i reinstall ubunutu
[12:33] <erUSUL> bullgard4: as i can see it they (as debian does) use groups to control the access to certain devices. memebers of audio can access the sound cards memebers of cdrom can us optical drives etc...
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> it dont work
[12:33] <ikonia> !offtopic >linuxguy
[12:33] <Anomaly> Question : Does the Ubuntu Server require a reboot after a kernel upgrade? I can see it calling update-initramfs, is this doing an in memory patch? Or do I still need to reboot?
[12:33] <klotho> I could use that partitioner boot cd... what's it called?
[12:33] <ikonia> asma1 put the cdrom in and click install
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> imlost
[12:33] <EliteChris> Im Lost Too.. What a cawinkydink
[12:33] <rico> klotho, gparted.
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> whore
[12:33] <LinuxGuy> whores
[12:33] <asc> Anomaly: You need to reboot to use the new kernel.
[12:33] <ikonia> LinuxGuy ok - reporting you now
[12:33] <dgjones> !ops | LinuxGuy
[12:33] <ubotu> LinuxGuy: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[12:34] <klotho> yeah, should I use gparted first to create an empty partition for ubuntu?
[12:34] <Anomaly> asc: OK thanks.
[12:34] <asc> But it probably won't explode if you keep using the old one, either.
[12:34] <Xteven> hi, will gutsy gibbon be available as a CD iso ? or only as DVD ? (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/beta only has DVD images)
[12:34] <rico> klotho, you can do that in ubuntu's installer
[12:34] <erUSUL> klotho: no, if you use a separate program you are taking the exact same risk as with the ubuntu instaler (if you ask me if yoiu use partition magic you are taking more risk that with any linux tool)
[12:34] <klotho> gparted has never lost any data for me
[12:34] <rico> Xteven, I downloaded a gutsy CD image, cant remember whre though :b
[12:34] <Xteven> rico: hmm ok
[12:34] <rico> erUSUL, why is that?
[12:34] <jxxxt> klotho, Whatever you do will be a risk.. back up before you do anything and be prepared to lose you win system
[12:35] <rico> I mean, why is partition magic more of a risk?
[12:35] <erUSUL> klotho: i'm only noting that messing with partitions is not a zero risk operation with any OS or program
[12:35] <ikonia> Xteven read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[12:35] <klotho> so is the built in partitioner with 7.10 not as reliable as gparted?
[12:35] <klotho> if so, why don't they just use gparted?
[12:35] <erUSUL> rico: it is just my opinion i had have bad experiences with PM
[12:35] <ikonia> erUSUL very valid it is too
[12:36] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Your answer is a statement about the very general outline or procedure to establish a policy but no recipe/algorithm  to do so.
[12:36] <kst> klotho I did resize my NTFS partition with win xp on it by using the ubuntu livecd and gparted, and i had no data loss or anything.. however i did defrag and scandisk the partition before in win xp, and i made backups!
[12:36] <jxxxt> klotho, I got to do 5 repartions without any probs my 6 was a complete disaster
[12:36] <Xteven> ikonia: what should I be looking for in that topic ?
[12:36] <klotho> my partitions are all fat32 still
[12:36] <ikonia> Xteven the information your looking for
[12:36] <hjmills> windows should cost far more than it does - then it would put off people who are too inept to use it properly
[12:36] <Xteven> ikonia: it doesn't mention anything about a dvd or cd
[12:37] <kst> klotho fat32 supports even more options than ntfs, still i'd make sure to defrag/scandisk and backup it :)
[12:37] <ikonia> it gives you a wiki entry with the info
[12:37] <klotho> oksy
[12:37] <Xteven> ikonia: oh, I see, the download directory
[12:37] <klotho> thanks for the tips
[12:37] <Xteven> cdimage.ubuntu.com isn't synched yet it seems
[12:37] <erUSUL> bullgard4: algorithm? check this line as example >>>>KERNEL=="console",                      GROUP="root", MODE="0600"<<<<< when udev sees the event of the "creation" of the console it make the device owner root and the permissions 0600 it is as simple as that no algorithm
[12:38] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : Are you here?
[12:38] <erUSUL> bullgard4: when it creates the device
[12:38] <Xteven> ikonia: thx
[12:38] <etale> Are there any synaptic repositories for gutsy?
[12:39] <jxxxt> etale, yes
[12:39] <ikonia> etale yes, but if you have to ask , you shouldn't be using gusty
[12:39] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: yea here
[12:39] <asma1> Hey. i'm having trouble even starting the live cd so i can reinstall ubuntu.. the graphics are all messed up
[12:39] <Auckla> Hi, I have question about the Liv Install. Under "Prepar disk space" I select Guided and IDE2 Master HDC, for my install drive.
[12:39] <etale> ikonia: interesting.  I can't find any in google.
[12:39] <ikonia> you don't have to look in google
[12:39] <Auckla> vmlinuz` However when I go to next screen its asking me if I want to import files from mother windows drive hda? Its not going to format my HDA no right?
[12:40] <ikonia> etale use fesity until gusty is released in a week or so
[12:40] <needhelp> Hi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?
[12:40] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: no.. do you want to keep the other OS in that system?
[12:40] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : There is currently no paritions on HDC. That is the drive I want to install ubuntu on to. :P
[12:40] <bullgard4> erUSUL: If it was true what you said then I would not be able to use any tty because my tty group does not have any members. In fact, I can use ttys.
[12:41] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : For the time being yes. I do want to keep windows on my other drive.
[12:41] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: cool.. yea keep it until you feel that you are 100% Sure that you can live without windows
[12:42] <erUSUL> bullgard4: well the group for ttys is dialup afaics (dialin dialout)
[12:42] <bullgard4> kst: The website you recommended deals only with trademark policy and privacy policy.
[12:42] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : Yeah. Well I can. I know exactly what I need and don't need. It seems about every 2-4yrs I flop back and forth. There is just some stuff I would rather not lose. :P like some tunes.
[12:43] <kst> bullgard4 that was just an idea which i found by searching the site, maybe try the wiki or forums or google
[12:43] <tich> synaptic won't start from the menu or from a desktop icon but if i input the same info from the launcher into a terminal it starts.  any idea why?
[12:43] <scrimple101> Hi everyone, having trouble with menus after trying to install Avanti Windows Navigator, does anyone know how to uninstall or bring them back to default?
[12:43] <kst> is it possible to modify the look of KDE (applications) to something closer to GNOME? i'm thining of using Kile editor under gnome but i dont like KDE apps breaking my gnome look :)
[12:44] <ikonia> kst what the heck is Avanti Windows Navigator
[12:44] <Auckla> Installing now. :)
[12:44] <Auckla> I'm glad there is one final "Are you sure" screen to let me know what it is formatting.
[12:44] <kst> ikonia ???
[12:44] <scrimple101> it's like a mac dock
[12:45] <kst> ikonia what are you talking about?
[12:45] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : Sorry to put you in a spotlight. Does Ubuntu become slightly more responsive once its installed on the local system?
[12:45] <ikonia> kst sorry, went to the wrong nick
[12:45] <kst> np :)
[12:45] <bullgard4> erUSUL: What does 'afaics' stand for?
[12:45] <kst> Auckla you mean faster? Sure, yeah :)
[12:45] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: yeah.
[12:45] <Auckla> kst : Yes, that is exactly what I"m looking for.
[12:46] <jxxxt> bullgard4, as far as I am concerned
[12:46] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : I also noted that the server install version of Ubuntu had some things that pointed intrest to me.
[12:46] <bullgard4> jxxxt: Thank you.
[12:46] <Auckla> Like the mail-server? What mail-server comes out of the box with Ubuntu?
[12:46] <ikonia> Auckla postfix
[12:46] <jxxxt> bullgard4, you are welcome
[12:46] <Auckla> ikonia : Right on.
[12:47] <Auckla> This is kind've funny installing Ubuntu while running Ubuntu. :P
[12:47] <Auckla> So does this installer install some kind've bootloader? I.E. Lilo?
[12:47] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: yea its cool, few days and gusty will release btw
[12:47] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : I'm installing Gutsy right now. :P
[12:47] <Auckla> vmlinuz` Err, at least 7.10Beta.
[12:48] <vmlinuz`> ah
[12:48] <vmlinuz`> not supported here yet. I think in #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <Auckla> Becuase I'm crazzzy! "Notice the three "Z's". :P
[12:48] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : Well Lilo or whatever, I have to be able to choose what os I want to boot from somehow. Maybe at the end of the installer it will ask me?
[12:49] <Auckla> Xmms still the prominet(killed) mp3 player in linux?
[12:50] <kst> i myself use listen player, thinking about wine'ing foobar2000 tho
[12:50] <rob> nah
[12:50] <rob> amarok on kde, there are several for gnome
[12:50] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: yeah, and its GRUB
[12:51] <erUSUL> bullgard4: as far as i can see
[12:51] <bullgard4> thank you
[12:51] <erUSUL> bullgard4: no problem
[12:51] <shiznit> how to make programs/windows remember last position after close?
[12:51] <J-_> !players
[12:51] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:52] <shiznit> !codecs
[12:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <Auckla> Wow I have 30 mail over on my other system.
[12:54] <kst> is it possible to modify the look of KDE (applications) to something closer to GNOME? i'm thining of using Kile editor under gnome but i dont like KDE apps breaking my gnome look :)
[12:57] <tarik> hey ther
[12:57] <tarik> uh. i kinda screwed up
[12:58] <tarik> i started gettin just a white screen after login. so fully removed beryl
[12:58] <tarik> but i still get a white screen
[12:58] <J-_> why are you using beryl?
[12:59] <J-_> !info compiz-fusion
[12:59] <J-_> !compiz-fusion
[12:59] <ubotu> Package compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:59] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:01] <Auckla> 94% of install complete. WoooHoo!!
[01:02] <Auckla> time to reboot new ubuntu install! :P
[01:02] <JimQode> Hello ppl. Has gutsy been released?
[01:02] <J-_> !gutsy
[01:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: i recompiled it after moving the options expander to the top so i can switch between the different parts i need :)
[01:02] <JimQode> J-_, it is october 2007 as of today
[01:03] <J-_> yeah, I'm not sure if it's being released today, or not.
[01:03] <J-_> Could quite possibly, I don't know. =)
[01:03] <kahrytan> !heron
[01:03] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[01:03] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, So you are good now
[01:03] <J-_> lol
[01:04] <lafuma> any ideas why my ubuntus network keeps going down ?
[01:04] <kahrytan> J-_, gutsy is mid october
[01:04] <jxxxt> J-_, 18th Oct is the date
[01:04] <J-_> Cool
[01:04] <JimQode> kahrytan, jxxxt , thx ;)
[01:04] <kahrytan> J-_, can you wait that long?
[01:05] <J-_> Yeah I can. My computer is running smooth and that's all that matters atm.
[01:05] <jxxxt> Tried to install feisty but my c/d went into loop at the partitioner. any ideas what might be the cause??
[01:05] <jxxxt>  I reburnt the image at a slower speed but no difference
[01:05] <kahrytan> jxxxt, check disc.
[01:05] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "udev is a collection of tools and a daemon to manage events received from the kernel and deal with them in user-space." What are the names of the members of this collection?
[01:05] <JimQode> jxxxt, you could try partitioning with cfdisk to see what is the culprit.
[01:06] <jxxxt> Kahrytan, The md5 check was ok
[01:06] <tarik> i dont know why i installed beryl. now i just want to reinstall ubuntu. i cant even use the live cd, everything is black when i start the live cd
[01:06] <kahrytan> J-_, ever tried kubuntu?
[01:07] <J-_> yep
[01:07] <jxxxt> JimQode, Then it looped on user/name/password
[01:07] <kahrytan> J-_, im considering it but i'll loose all the great support here
[01:07] <UmZ> ubuntu italy?
[01:07] <JimQode> jxxxt, where does cfdisk ask for username/pasword?
[01:08] <J-_> kahrytan: Do whatever you want, it's up to you to shcool. Personal preference.
[01:08] <J-_> err choose*
[01:08] <jxxxt> JimQode, I was using live install disc
[01:08] <Robert-AU> jxxxt: yep
[01:08] <jxxxt> Robert-AU, Great :-)
[01:08] <UmZ> help italy?
[01:09] <JimQode> jxxxt, I couldn't quite get where you failed when you tried "cfdisk" as  a partitioner.
[01:09] <stefg> jxxxt: how much RAM does the machine have ?
[01:09] <jxxxt> stefg, 512mg
[01:09] <stefg> jxxxt: ok, that's enough
[01:10] <Maxey2> yellow
[01:10] <stefg> jxxxt: is this a dual boot install on a machine which has a windows NTFS partition on it, and you are trying to resize that ?
[01:11] <TTilus> i have a vpn connection (openvpn) in network-manager, connection fails with 'The VPN login failed because the VPN program could not connect to the VPN server.' if my key is encrypted using passphrase with spaces, it works if pw does _not_ have spaces ... anybody happen to know about this issue?  i havent found reported bug on this yet?
[01:11] <jxxxt> JimQode, I did not use cfdisc the partitioner is the default one one the live c/d
[01:11] <J-_> Does the checksum represent one of these: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/MD5SUMS (if you're trying to install gutsy)
[01:11] <JimQode> jxxxt, ok I suggest you try cfdisk to see what the error it gives is
[01:12] <Auckla> vmlinuz` : You still here?
[01:12] <riderrazor> : /msg chanserv register keep
[01:12] <jxxxt> Stefg, This is a single system machine currently running gutsy  I wanted to go back to a stable system.
[01:13] <jxxxt> JimQode, I can do that in a terminal now right??
[01:13] <JimQode> jxxxt, yes. run "cfdisk /dev/sda" or whatever your disk is
[01:13] <jxxxt> JimQode, OK
[01:15] <mooper> anyone have a good howto for smbmount
[01:16] <enemy> j #ubuntu-de
[01:19] <needhelp> Hi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?
[01:19] <DjViper> whats the channel for compiz fusion on this network?
[01:20] <shiznit> #ubuntu-effects i believe
[01:20] <Pici> DjViper: or #compiz-fusion
[01:20] <DjViper> okay thanks
[01:21] <shiznit> anyone know how to make a program/window remember last position after close?
[01:23] <Edgard_> quit
[01:26] <json> hi
[01:26] <resiak> earlier today i tried to resize my side panel, which caused X, Openbox (which I'm using as my Gnome WM) and gnome-panel to between them consume all available CPU time.  The "failsafe" gnome session apparently uses the same panel configuration, so has the same problem.  How can I blow away my panel configuration?
[01:27] <jxxxt> JimQode, I just get a fatal error on hda and hda1
[01:27] <resiak> (I've got a gconf-editor open by running an xmonad session.  I notice that there's a default_setup subkey of /apps/panel...)
[01:28] <JimQode> jxxxt, what does "fdisk -l" say?
[01:28] <Kubuntu> yello
[01:28] <Kubuntu> How can I start Thin Client Manager?
[01:28] <JimQode> jxxxt, use pastebin please for the output.
[01:28] <JimQode> !pastebin jxxxt
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin jxxxt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <JimQode> !pastebin, jxxxt
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin, jxxxt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <JimQode> !pastebin
[01:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <Kubuntu> I'vespent an houre installing Thin Client Manager, but now I can'tfind a short cut. Amd I don't know the command to run it. Does anyone know?
[01:31] <resiak> for the benefit of the world, the answer is 'gconftool --recursive-unset' !
[01:31] <jxxxt> JimQode, No outcome from fdisk -l
[01:31] <asc> resiak: 'rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel'
[01:31] <asc> Or that works too
[01:31] <JimQode> jxxxt, you should do it as root "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:32] <jxxxt> JimQode, Of course sorry!!
[01:33] <Kubuntu> #kubuntu
[01:37] <Kubuntu> How do I start Thin Client Manager?
[01:38] <i_r_brad> how do i start wine once it is installed??
[01:38] <Pici> i_r_brad: wine /path/to/program.exe
[01:38] <jxxxt> JimQode, I got there. I am going to keep this script and go to bed as I have been at this for too long today. Thanks for your help thus far.
[01:38] <i_r_brad> thks
[01:38] <JimQode> jxxxt, np. nighty night!
[01:39] <jxxxt> JimQode, G night
[01:39] <jamison_> Any python progammers here
[01:39] <indraveni> hi, i need help in making my function keys work in my sony laptop
[01:39] <i_r_brad> sorry but what would that path-to-file be?
[01:39] <indraveni> i have kernel 2.6.21
[01:39] <Pici> i_r_brad: I dont know, where is the exe file you want to run?
[01:40] <indraveni> in windows Fn+F5 will increase the brightness
[01:40] <i_r_brad> so i pretty much just run the *.exe??
[01:40] <indraveni> the same doesnot happen in my debian linux syste,
[01:40] <Pici> i_r_brad: exactly.
[01:40] <i_r_brad> does wine kinda run as a service?
[01:40] <Pici> i_r_brad: not really.
[01:41] <spiderpig> i r brad its a application
[01:41] <spiderpig> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:41] <i_r_brad> sorry new to linux
[01:41] <spiderpig> no problem
[01:41] <i_r_brad> i have installed it
[01:41] <spiderpig> its shit though. just get rid of the need to use windows all togheter
[01:41] <mooper> does anyone use smbmount?
[01:41] <Pici> !ohmy | spiderpig
[01:41] <ubotu> spiderpig: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:41] <mooper> this isntoworking smbmount \\\\192.168.100.2\\share /media/smb -o user=andrew
[01:41] <i_r_brad> trying to
[01:41] <spiderpig> i r brad yeah me to
[01:41] <spiderpig> pici what?
[01:42] <Pici> spiderpig: Watch the language please.
[01:42] <spiderpig> um what? i didnt even use any curse words
[01:42] <Auckla> biab.
[01:43] <wers> anyone here using stardict?
[01:43] <wers> I am experiencing a problem with its "definition window." Whenever I put my mouse on the definition window, it disappears
[01:43] <coreymanshack> how do I add a site using the apache lamp install from ubuntu repositories
[01:45] <Pici> mooper: This is how I mount things with samba:  mount -t smbfs -o username=pici //10.200.120.101/share /media/smb
[01:48] <shearn89> hello! can i just tell everyone how glad i am to be back on ubuntu...
[01:48] <shiznit> what was the gutsy channel, sry i forgot
[01:48] <shearn89> shiznit: #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <spiderpig> #ubuntu+1
[01:48] <kst> is it possible to modify the look of KDE (applications) to something closer to GNOME? i'm thining of using Kile editor under gnome but i dont like KDE apps breaking my gnome look :)
[01:48] <shiznit> ty
[01:48] <spiderpig> np shiznit
[01:48] <spiderpig> nice nick btw
[01:48] <shearn89> ^
[01:48] <spiderpig> :)
[01:48] <shearn89> spiderpig: you to man...
[01:48] <spiderpig> hehe
[01:49] <astro76> kst, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QtGnome
[01:49] <kst> thanks astro76
[01:49] <indraveni> can't i get any help regarding my laptop problem ?
[01:49] <shearn89> indraveni: what is it? i wasn't here earlier.
[01:49] <indraveni> shearn89, I need help in making my function keys work in my sony laptop
[01:50] <indraveni> i have kernel 2.6.21
[01:50] <shearn89> indraveni: what model is the laptop?
[01:50] <indraveni> in windows Fn+F5 will increase the brightness
[01:50] <indraveni> sony VGN TZ17GN Model name
[01:50] <shearn89> indraveni: have you looked at System-> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts?
[01:50] <indraveni> I am not able to have the Fn+F5 work for brightness as it does in windows
[01:50] <Pici> indraveni: Did you compile that kernel version yourself?
[01:51] <indraveni> shearn89, that is manually setting, but ther exists some drivers for this purpose like i read
[01:51] <kst> astro76 theres also a qt4... should i still use qt3?
[01:51] <indraveni> which i am not to get
[01:51] <indraveni> Pici, , that is manually setting, but ther exists some drivers for this purpose like i read
[01:51] <indraveni> even my projector id not working with my laptop
[01:53] <shearn89> indraveni: i don't know about anything you can just install and get it to work off the top of my head. I know you can rebind keyboards, but that isn't easy.
[01:53] <astro76> kst, I would assume 4, that doc is outdated I guess
[01:53] <Pici> indraveni: odd numbered kernel versions are development versions and no Ubuntu releases run them by default.
[01:54] <J-_> indraveni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SonyVaioBrightness
[01:56] <incorrect> im trying to get the cisco vpn client compiled
[01:56] <shearn89> indraveni: i found some links on the net - ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039 is about multimedia keys - you could change it to what you need.
[01:56] <Muppet-Boy> hiya, i've just plugged a known working IDE tape drive into 6.06LTS... is there any way to check whether it is being recognised properly?
[01:56] <incorrect> however i seem to be missing loads of components
[01:57] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: you could do "lshw | grep ide", which might show it.
[01:57] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: replace ide with whatever to search for other stuff.
[01:57] <Muppet-Boy> i'll try that.. thanks
[01:58] <defcons> hello
[01:58] <ajv> hi all, I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 and seems to hang while importing documents and settings, any ideas ?
[01:58] <murlidhar> hi
[01:58] <defcons> what does ubuntu use for the resizing of ntfs partitions?
[01:58] <defcons> in the installation
[01:58] <Pici> ajv: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[01:58] <ajv> ok
[01:58] <Pici> defcons: It uses an implementation of parted.
[01:58] <defcons> Pici, thanks
[01:58] <Muppet-Boy> shearn89 : i dont understand what that command is returning... u able to help?
[01:59] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy whats the problem
[01:59] <Auckla> Say I wanted somthing like a new terminal? E-Term? Where would that be via synaptic? Or do I have to compile and install stuff like that completely on my own. :)
[01:59] <fuci> Can one resize ntfs-partitions with cfdisk?
[01:59] <J-_> !info eterm
[01:59] <ubotu> eterm: Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.0debian1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[01:59] <ikonia> Auckla search the repo
[01:59] <Muppet-Boy> ikonia : i'm trying to determine if a newly fitted IDE tape drive is recognised by the OS
[02:00] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: yeah probs. It lists all the hardware connected to your computer. if you run it in a terminal, it should give you some output.
[02:00] <Auckla> J-_ :Thank you.
[02:00] <J-_> sudo apt-get install eterm
[02:00] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy ok - so use mt -f $device status and see if it works
[02:00] <defcons> Pici, where can I get this implementation?
[02:00] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy and/or do an lspci to see if you can see it hanging ogg
[02:00] <Muppet-Boy> ikonia : i dont know what the device is referred to
[02:00] <Pici> defcons: There is another package in the repos called gparted which can do it too.
[02:01] <defcons> thank you
[02:01] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy what type of tape driver, dds/dlt/lto ?
[02:01] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: did the lshw | grep ide do anything?
[02:01] <Muppet-Boy> shearn89 : it returned plenty, but i dont understand what it says
[02:01] <Auckla> And then one more question. I installed the flash plugin for FireFox\Mozilla. But still on things like youtube.com. I get no audio? Though the Video plays fine.
[02:02] <Muppet-Boy> ikonia : its an old drive.... maybe QIC?? its travan IDE 40GB
[02:02] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: ok. try "lspci | grep IDE" - remember its case sensitive.
[02:03] <Muppet-Boy> shearn89 : that only returned *intel bridge* references
[02:04] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: hmmm... ikonia - can you think of anything else (s)he could try?
[02:05] <defcons> Pici, gparted seems not to be able to resize ntfs
[02:05] <Muppet-Boy> the lshw command returned the following : http://pastebin.com/d6c0cfa8b
[02:05] <Lhademmor> Where do I go to request for a package to be included in Universe?
[02:06] <Pici> defcons: It should.
[02:06] <Pici> defcons: The drive cannot be mounted when you are trying to do so.
[02:06] <Pici> !newpacakge | Lhademmor
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newpacakge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <Lhademmor> !newpackage
[02:06] <Pici> !newpackage | Lhademmor
[02:06] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[02:06] <ubotu> Lhademmor: please see above
[02:06] <Lhademmor> :)
[02:06] <phil> is the 'places' menu supposed to have two entries for 'Desktop'??? (ex. Home Folder, Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Music, Videos, Desktop))
[02:06] <Xera> How well does the ATI X1950 work in Ubuntu? And has anyone used it with Compiz-Fusion?
[02:07] <defcons> Pici, ahh okay
[02:07] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: okay - its probs the unclaimed one, which means it finds it, but has no driver.
[02:07] <jrib> phil: are you using the beta 7.10?
[02:07] <phil> jrib: yes sir
[02:07] <jrib> phil: #ubuntu+1 for support with the beta
[02:07] <phil> jrib: oh i thought i was in +1, sry
[02:07] <phil> jrib:  not paying attention
[02:08] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: looks like you're going to have to trawl the web for a driver....
[02:08] <Muppet-Boy> shearn89 : so a trip to drivers website is needed??
[02:08] <Muppet-Boy> lol ok
[02:08] <shearn89> Muppet-Boy: i think so... sorry i can't help more...
[02:08] <Geto> can someone help me and explore what camera is in notebook compal ifl90, i was doing some research but with no lucky
[02:09] <Muppet-Boy> shearn89 : thats ok... least i got a starting point now :)
[02:09] <shearn89> np.
[02:10] <Geto> i realy want setup my camera for ubuntu pls help
[02:10] <shearn89> anyone here tried archlinux?
[02:10] <shearn89> Geto: have you tried looking through the output of "lspci" in a terminal?
[02:10] <Geto> yes
[02:10] <shearn89> Geto: any luck?
[02:10] <Geto> it s recoh but unknown
[02:10] <varka> Geto: http://lddubeau.com/avaktavyam/linux-on-a-compal-ifl90/
[02:11] <Geto> yust sec
[02:11] <Geto> System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd Unknown device 0843 (rev 12)
[02:12] <Auckla> Hi, I'm not getting any audio? Though I was when I had the live cd session going?
[02:12] <Geto> i think thats is my camrea
[02:12] <Geto> cameera
[02:12] <Geto> camera
[02:12] <varka> Geto: its a Chicony CNF6212 as mentioned here http://lddubeau.com/avaktavyam/linux-on-a-compal-ifl90/
[02:12] <Auckla> Xmms Graphic Eq is showing thought it looks like its playing. But now I"m not getting any audio at all actually.
[02:12] <spiderpig> is there a channel for people interested in ubuntu security and how to secure the OS?
[02:12] <Auckla> And I'm just running your run on of the mill SoundBlaster Live. :P
[02:13] <Auckla> I got it figured out. N,.
[02:13] <Auckla> Nm.
[02:13] <Geto> i will try but if i will not succed i will come back here
[02:14] <rm130> I don't think my video card drivers are working fine...when I do glxgears the gears move smoothly for about 3 seconds then start lagging
[02:14] <shearn89> Geto: this might help... http://lsb.blogdns.net/ry5u870
[02:14] <ggts> Hellow every1
[02:15] <Auckla> Thast wierd, Its defaulting to my onboard audio.
[02:15] <ggts> Does anyone know how to log on OSSIM????
[02:16] <shearn89> OSSIM?
[02:17] <ggts> OSSIM -the network mngt etmonitoring tool
[02:17] <HuricaneHarry> !OSSIM
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ossim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <ggts> ok thanks!
[02:18] <spiderpig> has any backdoors or any exploits been found in ubuntu?
[02:19] <spiderpig> or any shady stuff in the code?
[02:19] <AMF-KeePer-> no
[02:19] <spiderpig> is there some good blog or anything about the subject?
[02:19] <Pici> spiderpig: Security notices: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[02:19] <spiderpig> on how to secure ubuntu
[02:19] <Xera> spiderpig this isn't #windows :p
[02:19] <gerro> spiderpig: there are sites that check flaws in individual distros though
[02:19] <spiderpig> pici thanks mate
[02:19] <spiderpig> Xera thank god for that. THANK GOD.
[02:20] <spiderpig> i hope ms crash and burn with their backdoors connected to NSA
[02:20] <spiderpig> and google knows way to much aswell
[02:20] <spiderpig> :/
[02:20] <penguincentral> does anyone know how to clear out the history list of videos watched in Totem?
[02:21] <lianergoist> Hi! I'm new tu Linux. Is it possible to merge two ext3 partitions?
[02:21] <penguincentral> lianergoist: probably not
[02:21] <Woet> is ubuntu the best OS to program on?
[02:22] <Woet> Im a webdeveloper and looking for something else
[02:22] <Woet> Im now using XP
[02:22] <spiderpig> woet emediately get onto ubuntu or kubuntu sir
[02:22] <spiderpig> vista is a heep of trash full with backdoors
[02:22] <Woet> which one is the best sir?
[02:22] <Woet> XP is quite well
[02:22] <Woet> but linux is better
[02:22] <Pici> !best
[02:22] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:22] <Ant1jr> Server 2003
[02:22] <lianergoist> penguincentral, is it possible to run a command so they appear to be one?
[02:22] <spiderpig> woet ubuntu is with gnome gui and kubuntu is with kde
[02:22] <spiderpig> take any
[02:22] <Ant1jr> Server 2003 win
[02:22] <penguincentral> !microsoft | Woet
[02:22] <ubotu> Woet: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:22] <spiderpig> both are good deends your taste for graphics
[02:23] <Woet> hmm
[02:23] <Ant1jr> gnome is easier
[02:23] <spiderpig> ubotu loooooool
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loooooool - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <penguincentral> lianergoist: i doubt that
[02:23] <Woet> i just want to program in PHP/HTML/CSS/Javascript and something like IM (IRC/Google Talk)
[02:23] <Woet> Thats it.
[02:23] <Woet> My system is 1.6GHz celeron and 512mb ram
[02:23] <lianergoist> penguincentral, thanks. Not what I hoped. well,, thanks
[02:23] <penguincentral> !patience | Woet
[02:23] <ubotu> Woet: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:23] <Woet> .. >_>
[02:24] <Pici> Woet: There are tools for all of that in Ubuntu.
[02:24] <penguincentral> Woet: you should be able to do it in ubuntu, but i am not sure on the programming tools that you would use (i am no web designer/programmer)
[02:24] <gerro> Woet: got several browsers, opera, firefox, internet explorer, safari, and many popular web servers such as apache, lighttp, etc
[02:24] <Woet> Yes i know
[02:24] <penguincentral> IM, Pidgin/Gaim is good
[02:24] <Pici> !away > Muppet-Boy-Away (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:24] <Woet> But what Linux Distribution should i take?
[02:24] <gerro> Woet: I'd say because of its server related background it would be great for testing and working with web development
[02:24] <Woet> Ubuntu, Kubunute, SUSE, Gnome?
[02:24] <spiderpig> woet install 'ubuntu feisty fawn 7,04'
[02:25] <ikonia> Woet your decision
[02:25] <Woet> ubuntu then
[02:25] <Woet> thanks.
[02:25] <spiderpig> no problem
[02:25] <spiderpig> you wont regret it
[02:25] <penguincentral> Woet: welcome to the club ;)
[02:25] <Woet> thanks
[02:25] <spiderpig> throw windows away fast
[02:25] <Woet> i will
[02:25] <Woet> im gonna annoy my boss
[02:25] <Woet> he's using vista
[02:25] <penguincentral> woo!
[02:25] <spiderpig> and never return to it. you also have open office if you need office suit
[02:25] <ikonia> Woet don't be pressured, use windows / linux as you see fit
[02:25] <Woet> keeps getting errors about too less ram, while he has 2GB of it (and no apps open)
[02:25] <Ant1jr> vista isnt bad really
[02:25] <gerro> Woet: ubuntu uses gnome desktop, kubuntu uses kde, suse has a pricetag unlike its free version opensuse which is rpm based not .deb package based. there is also ubuntu studio and xubuntu you might consider
[02:25] <HuricaneHarry> woet: check out NVU
[02:26] <HuricaneHarry> woet: also GIMP
[02:26] <Ant1jr> ubuntu studio is very good
[02:26] <spiderpig> antljr only scuecidal people will use vista. i tried it for 5months and the whole system is one gigantic backdoor
[02:26] <penguincentral> Woet: honestly, I dual boot windows and ubuntu, and it has been a while since i booted into windows
[02:26] <Ant1jr> well
[02:26] <ikonia> !offtopic >spiderpig
[02:26] <spiderpig> the whole system is made in  a way to control it from outside
[02:26] <Ant1jr> thats why there are firewalls
[02:26] <ikonia> spiderpig please don't slate windows, everything has its place
[02:26] <spiderpig> yeah yeah whatever. forget windows
[02:26] <gerro> Antljr: no need for firewall if system is secure :/
[02:26] <penguincentral> !windows | ikonia
[02:26] <ubotu> ikonia: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:26] <Woet> lol
[02:27] <spiderpig> :)
[02:27] <ikonia> penguincentral I'm well aware of it
[02:27] <Ant1jr> Gerro: Not true
[02:27] <Woet> kk im downloading ubuntu
[02:27] <penguincentral> yeah
[02:27] <gerro> Antljr: for most part
[02:27] <Ant1jr> Gerro: Even a secure system can be ddosed
[02:27] <spiderpig> woet if you have any trouble just come here and ask later on and you will always find someone nice that helps
[02:27] <gerro> Antljr: then it has a shitty network stack setup :)
[02:28] <ikonia> gerro please don't use bad language
[02:28] <IdleOne> !ohmy | gerro
[02:28] <ubotu> gerro: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:28] <ikonia> gerro totally uncalled for
[02:28] <Ant1jr> Gerro: You have no idea how large some botnets are ;)
[02:28] <Woet> im just downloading the ubunute 7.04 cd
[02:28] <gerro> IdleOne: como estas amigo ^^
[02:28] <Woet> ubuntu
[02:28] <Ant1jr> WOET: NOoOoOO
[02:28] <IdleOne> gerro bien gracias, but here we speak english
[02:29] <Ant1jr> Woet: Linux Mint or Ubuntu Studio
[02:29] <Woet> .. ?
[02:29] <Ant1jr> Woet: Save yourself pan
[02:29] <ikonia> Ant1jr please don't receommend non-ubuntu products
[02:29] <knoppix_> hello, my files i am trying to recover ntfs files onto backup hd.. usb
[02:29] <knoppix_> can anyone help?
[02:29] <Ant1jr> ikonia: Um Linux MInt is an ubuntu derivitave
[02:29] <ikonia> Woet use a generic ubuntu product such as ubuntu/kubuntu if you want to use ubuntu
[02:29] <gerro> ikonia: why not?...
[02:29] <ikonia> Ant1jr it is not ubuntu  - nor supported by ubuntu
[02:29] <knoppix_> locked out of own files by file permissions on windows... trying to recover with linux
[02:29] <IdleOne> Ant1jr: derivitave but not official Ubuntu product
[02:29] <knoppix_> anyone?
[02:29] <ikonia> knoppix_ what version of linux
[02:30] <knoppix_> know how to get around file permission security?
[02:30] <knoppix_> for NTFS
[02:30] <Auckla> Hmm, I might be stuck in Linux for a good while now.
[02:30] <Ant1jr> ikonia: I believe in suporting anyone who needs help and recommending software that I can TRULY recommend
[02:30] <knoppix_> please dont kick me off channel
[02:30] <ikonia> Ant1jr I agree with that
[02:30] <knoppix_> ubuntu is the best support community atm
[02:30] <HuricaneHarry> knoppix_ : log in as admin on the windows machine and change ownership ?
[02:30] <ikonia> knoppix_ why would you be kicked off the channel ?
[02:30] <knoppix_> im booted in knoppix now because ubuntu wont boot
[02:30] <ikonia> knoppix_ ar eyou using knoppix
[02:30] <gerro> knoppix: try using xubuntu livecd or damnsmall linux, something small for recovery purposes. You got another hard drive or usb stick?
[02:30] <knoppix_> tried changing ownership
[02:30] <ikonia> knoppix_ please join #knoppix
[02:30] <knoppix_> it does nto .
[02:30] <ikonia> knoppix_ this channel is for ubuntu support questions only
[02:30] <knoppix_> joined knoppix
[02:31] <ikonia> knoppix_ great, get support in #knoppix
[02:31] <knoppix_> no reply at knoppix chanel
[02:31] <ikonia> knoppix_ waitin #knoppix then
[02:31] <ikonia> knoppix_ someone will enter there to support you at some point
[02:31] <knoppix_> I want to install ubuntu after formatting windows but need to recover data and cant boot ubuntu ..
[02:31] <knoppix_> untill i have recovered.
[02:31] <knoppix_> ubutnu does not load
[02:32] <knoppix_> knoppix does
[02:32] <ikonia> knoppix_ sorry - #knoppix is the best please to get support for knoppix activites
[02:32] <knoppix_> I have tried to install ubuntu
[02:32] <knoppix_> need to recover files
[02:32] <knoppix_> knoppix room no reply
[02:32] <lovingyou> hello, what is that command to see the RAM of a server?
[02:32] <Woet> is there any app to mount a ssh-server as an harddisk.. like sftpdrive for windows?
[02:32] <ikonia> knoppix_ you've said, please wait in #knoppix for a response
[02:32] <ikonia> Woet fuse
[02:32] <ikonia> !fuse >Woet
[02:32] <Woet> Thanks
[02:33] <knoppix_> please can someone help regarding recovery of NTFS data .
[02:33] <IdleOne> knoppix_: Iam sure knoppix has ntfs support take a look at the wiki and see if that doesnt help you
[02:33] <ikonia> knoppix_ please stop asking about knoppix help in here
[02:33] <knoppix_> it does have ntfs support
[02:33] <Ant1jr> knoppix: Make sure you run chkdsk on the ntfs partition if you shutdown the host os improperly
[02:33] <indraveni> Pici, any solution ?
[02:33] <knoppix_> but it is still giving me the same problem i was having in windows
[02:33] <knoppix_> it says cant copy
[02:33] <indraveni> Pici, for me please?
[02:33] <knoppix_> even though it can see the files
[02:33] <knoppix_> even though i tried to change permissions
[02:34] <Ant1jr> Reboot into windows and shutdown properly
[02:34] <lovingyou> hello, what is that command to see the RAM of a server?:)
[02:34] <ikonia> knoppix_ #knoppix is the correct channel, so pleae stop askin in this channel
[02:34] <ikonia> lovingyou fre
[02:34] <gerro> lovingyou: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:34] <ikonia> lovingyou free
[02:34] <knoppix_> have rebooted and restarted multiple times no change
[02:34] <ikonia> gerro thats cpu - not ram
[02:34] <shiznit> how do you take screenshot of desktop?
[02:34] <gerro> lovingyou: or lshw
[02:34] <knoppix_> ikonia.. this is not a knoppix related issue
[02:35] <ikonia> knoppix_ last request before I report, please stop discussing non-ubuntu related questions
[02:35] <knoppix_> this is a .. i want to install ubutnu but cant until i get my data out of windows PHUCKED up file system issue .
[02:35] <Ant1jr> knoppix_: nor is it an ubuntu related issue
[02:35] <ikonia> knoppix_ now you're using bad langauge
[02:35] <IdleOne> knoppix_: ikonia is right . best place for you to get help is in #knoppix or you can try asking in ##windows but .....
[02:35] <knoppix_> they are lame
[02:35] <knoppix_> they are not helping
[02:35] <ikonia> knoppix_ right, I'm reporting you to channel staff.
[02:35] <Ant1jr> then use a more supported os
[02:35] <knoppix_> i live in africa
[02:36] <Ant1jr> ok
[02:36] <Ant1jr> so
[02:36] <knoppix_> where it costs about 20cents per mb
[02:36] <Ant1jr> order a free cd
[02:36] <IdleOne> knoppix_: try looking at the forums for your OS and the wiki
[02:36] <knoppix_> ubuntu live wont boot
[02:36] <knoppix_> i need to fix this some time before christmas
[02:36] <knoppix_> like today
[02:36] <spiderpig> i ordered a free cd and got it two weeks ago
[02:36] <knoppix_> YEah... so much for the COmmunity >...
[02:36] <spiderpig> very nice
[02:36] <knoppix_> CHEERS
[02:36] <spiderpig> :D
[02:37] <knoppix_> Thanks for nothing
[02:37] <ikonia> welcome
[02:37] <Ant1jr> I love optical fiber internet
[02:37] <Ant1jr> :)
[02:37] <gerro> knoppix_:http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/linux/ubuntu/inst_5x.html
[02:37] <LjL> knoppix_: what is the issue? please keep in mind that if it's not an Ubuntu issue, you should take it to another channel, as this one is quite busy with Ubuntu problems already.
[02:37] <muz_> ich habn auflsungs problem kann mir jem. helfen?
[02:37] <Ant1jr> LjL: Not rlly atm lol
[02:38] <Myrtti> !de | muz_
[02:38] <ubotu> muz_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:38] <Porcellinux> Hallo..
[02:38] <ikonia> hi
[02:38] <IdleOne> !it
[02:38] <airjump> hello
[02:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:38] <muz_> kk
[02:38] <Porcellinux> I am new here...
[02:38] <spiderpig> is there also for hebrew speakers?
[02:38] <IdleOne> Porcellinux: welcome
[02:38] <LjL> !he
[02:38] <ubotu>         :
[02:38] <spiderpig> !il
[02:38] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[02:38] <spiderpig> oh my god
[02:38] <spiderpig> :D
[02:38] <spiderpig> fabolous
[02:39] <Porcellinux> I would like support to set up my webcam
[02:39] <ikonia> Porcellinux ok, whats the problem
[02:39] <Porcellinux> is this place right?
[02:39] <Ant1jr> Mettez la assistance de le Ubuntu por qua?
[02:39] <IdleOne> Ant1jr: pick a language :P
[02:39] <LjL> english please now...
[02:39] <Porcellinux> ok thanks....I have a chicony
[02:39] <Ant1jr> lol
[02:39] <Porcellinux> twinkle cam pro
[02:39] <Porcellinux> I installed the ov511 paket
[02:40] <Porcellinux> and did a modprobe ov511
[02:40] <gerro> Porcellinux: might want to try checking forum for information on easy cam. I used that to setup my webcam
[02:40] <Porcellinux> but camorama says...."could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)"
[02:40] <IdleOne> !webcam | Porcellinux
[02:41] <Porcellinux> yeah I tried that as well
[02:41] <Porcellinux> but it crashes
[02:41] <gerro> that's odd.. :(
[02:41] <Porcellinux> easycam2 and also easywebcam
[02:41] <ubotu> Porcellinux: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:41] <Porcellinux> I put my problem in 3 different forums
[02:41] <Porcellinux> but nobody answeres
[02:42] <gerro> Porcellinux: the webcam built into my laptop I had difficulty with but the ubuntu 7.10 picked it up well, testing out the beta now
[02:43] <Varac> hello
[02:43] <Ant1jr> go away
[02:43] <Varac> hmm ...
[02:43] <Ant1jr> we dont want you here
[02:43] <LjL> Ant1jr: scuse me?
[02:43] <IdleOne> Ant1jr: ???
[02:43] <Ant1jr> hes a troll
[02:43] <LjL> Ant1jr: you're talking to yourself i see.
[02:43] <Ant1jr> Ive met him before
[02:44] <IdleOne> Ant1jr: from the looks of it you seem like the troll
[02:44] <LjL> talk about trolls...
[02:44] <bibe> hi all. I have just installed Gutsy Gibbon beta from scratch on my laptop. I sent a test email with "echo test |mail -s test <myaccount>" and I can see the /var/mail/<myaccount> mbox, and read it using mutt. When configuring the default Evolution mail account as a "Local delivery" account, I can browse to /var/mail but I see the <myaccount> file (and all other files on my system) as disabled, thus I can't check my mail. Any ideas, please?
[02:44] <ikonia> bibe gusty supportin #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <bibe> ikonia : thanks
[02:44] <bibe> join #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <Varac> ok well if anybody has any ideas, im wanting to check on what otehr users are doing on my ubuntu server, I have checked the bash logs but is there any other way I can check?
[02:45] <LjL> Varac, the bash history gives every command they used... what more could you get?
[02:45] <Varac> because they are now clearing their bash history :(
[02:45] <HuricaneHarry> Varac:  > ps aux   > lsof
[02:46] <IdleOne> LjL: passwords? email address?, credit card info?
[02:46] <shearn89> Varac: couldn't you just remove there write rights to the bash history?
[02:46] <alapsawy>  
[02:46] <IdleOne> :?
[02:46] <LjL> !english | alapsawy
[02:46] <ubotu> alapsawy: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:46] <bintut> where can i find the pool of packages for ubuntu gutsy? i mean, the repository itself?
[02:46] <Varac> didnt know if that would stop writting to the bash file
[02:46] <LjL> bintut: archive.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <IdleOne> packages.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <HuricaneHarry> shearn89, nope then they can't use their bash history.
[02:47] <bintut> i want to install gutsy on my box but i don't have a cd-drive so i want to install it through a usb flash drive
[02:47] <IdleOne> !install | bintut
[02:47] <ubotu> bintut: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:47] <shearn89> bintut: check in #ubuntu+1
[02:47] <bintut> LjL and IdleOne : thanks.. i'll that site..
[02:47] <shearn89> HuricaneHarry: oh yeah. hmmm...
[02:48] <bintut> shearn89: thanks..
[02:49] <titun> hi, i just did a fresh feisty install, as my touchpad was hanging, i did acpi=off while booting, now i am not getting audio
[02:49] <Varac> HurricaneHarry where shoudl I use that commend it says permission denied, i tried sudo bu no luck
[02:49] <genii> bintut: For your specific situation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1694569
[02:49] <titun> will bringing ACPI recover sound?
[02:49] <LjL> shearn89, HuricaneHarry, Varac: i don't remember the command right now, but i think there is an attribute you can set with chattr to make a file appendable to, but not otherwise writable. that might help.
[02:49] <panosru> Hi, i installed firefox32 bit but the fonts are too big!
[02:49] <panosru>  not the fonts of the content but the fonts of the browser
[02:49] <HuricaneHarry> Varac: if you really want to give shell access to people on your machine, loot at chroot.
[02:49] <titun> how to do that?
[02:49] <Woet> i cant wait for the download of ubuntu to finish!!
[02:50] <Nalleman> How stable is compiz fusion at this moment?
[02:50] <Varac> ok thx
[02:50] <LjL>  A file with the a attribute set can only be open in append mode for writing.  Only the superuser or a process possessing  the  CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE  capability can set or clear this attribute. 
[02:50] <shearn89> Nalleman: fairly - its a default part of gutsy.
[02:50] <shearn89> Varac: i think LjL has the answer... nice one.
[02:50] <maks> where on cdimage.u.c does one find the netboot.tar.gz ?
[02:51] <titun> how do i turn on ACPI again? will that bring back my audio? i am sure Audio worked before in my previous installs of ubuntu
[02:51] <Varac> ok I will try that thx
[02:51] <Nalleman> shearn89, ok. should i uninstall beryl before trying it out?
[02:52] <shearn89> If you're upgrading to gutsy, i think so. I don't know whether they'd conflict.
[02:52] <HuricaneHarry> varac: lsof and ps are shell commands, sudo should work with them, for lsof you might need to install a package (sudo apt-get install lsof)
[02:52] <shearn89> panosru: you can change all the firefox fonts in the userChrome.css file - look here:
[02:53] <shearn89> www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/edit
[02:53] <Nalleman> shearn89, is gutsy stable by the way :)
[02:53] <shearn89> Nalleman: pretty much. Official release on the 18t.
[02:53] <shearn89> *18th.
[02:53] <Nalleman> shearn89, ok..
[02:54] <Nalleman> thanks
[02:54] <shearn89> np
[02:55] <maks> thanks to google
[02:55] <Gru1> Hai
[02:57] <shearn89> dude stop changing your nick...
[02:57] <Gru1> sorry
[02:57] <spiderpig> grul o hai
[02:57] <Gru1> hai
[02:58] <Gru1> how come its so... inactive
[02:58] <shearn89> don't know - kinda strange...
[02:58] <spiderpig> everyone is focused on your nick changing ways
[02:58] <spiderpig> :)
[02:58] <Gru1> lol
[02:58] <genii> Sometimes it's quiet, sometimes it's hopping
[02:58] <spiderpig> genii indeed its natural i guess
[03:02] <Woet> 45 min remaining for the download to finish :o
[03:04] <LjL> ok, since nobody's saying anything
[03:04] <LjL> how could i start diagnosing a printing problem where the CUPS queue processes the document and "prints" it fine -- while nothing gets out of the printer?
[03:05] <boubbin> is it possible to get signal whenever someone logs in to my computer using ssh ?
[03:05] <usr13> LjL: lpq
[03:05] <penguincentral> Woet: are you downloading off a server, or bittorrent?
[03:05] <LjL> usr13, i'm pretty sure the queue *is* empty after "printing" the thing
[03:06] <Woet> HTTP penguincentral
[03:06] <penguincentral> ok
[03:06] <LjL> boubbin: uhm i suppose you could put an inotify something on /var/log/sshd.log
[03:06] <gerro> boubbin: ssh connections are logged usually, I forget where. You can also have certain scripts and things ran when ssh connection is successful
[03:06] <Woet> hard to download a torrent via debian
[03:06] <Woet> :p
[03:06] <erstazi> honestly that was the quietest I have ever seen #ubuntu
[03:06] <penguincentral> Woet: i downloaded 7.10alpha5 over bittorrent
[03:06] <penguincentral> erstazi: yeah, i think it was after LjL banned what's his name
[03:06] <LjL> boubbin: try "apt-cache search inotify". there are a couple of programs that could likely do that, iwatch for instance
[03:07] <usr13> LjL: Does lpq tell you that the printer is ready or what?
[03:07] <usr13> LjL: And what printer is it anyway?
[03:07] <LjL> usr13: i can't check now, it's not my own printer. (relative's computer i installed ubuntu on). i do know that http://localhost:631 says the printer is ready. the printer is a Canon BJC-250
[03:08] <usr13> LjL: And is it a network printer or local printer, and is it a usb or parrallel port?
[03:08] <LjL> usr13: local, parallel
[03:08] <erstazi> LjL: I have noticed that not all the drivers are functional 100%, for my Lexmark 3100, the support is null, but some other drivers are not complete
[03:08] <gilos> how do I make update manager use my socks proxy?
[03:08] <usr13> LjL: Well, yes, start with lpq, make sure the printer is "ready" and no jobs backed up.
[03:08] <LjL> erstazi, but the fun thing is that the printer *used* to work, and i have no idea what event made it stop
[03:08] <erstazi> LjL: ah, so its an older printer
[03:09] <usr13> Then point the browser to the admin page.
[03:09] <LjL> erstazi: i mean - the printer still *does* work, the internal test page prints fine
[03:09] <erstazi> LjL: I would be afraid of it being a hardware malfunction, those printers use to take a lot of abuse but I have seen them fail hardware wise
[03:09] <boubbin> gerro thanks
[03:09] <costal79> hi people
[03:09] <erstazi> LjL: thats odd
[03:09] <usr13> LjL: Go to   http://localhost:631/  and see if you see anything miss-configured.
[03:10] <LjL> usr13, gone there repeatedly. there *is* one thing: the printer was using a Gutenprint (prev. Gimp-Print) driver. BUT that driver wasn't listed anymore on the driver list, when i tried re-creating the printer instance.
[03:11] <LjL> then i installed everything Gutenprint-related i could think of, and the driver was there again (with a slightly different name)
[03:11] <LjL> it just still doesn't print
[03:12] <usr13> LjL: Very well could need to use a different driver to make it work properly.  (Getting the internal test page to print and actually getting real print jobs to run are 2 different things.)
[03:12] <Alfadir__> I have installed steam via wine now and the game is running but I cant get no sound and it lags occasionally. Read something about OSS sound drivers that worked? How  do I install those
[03:12] <LjL> i'd like a log file, really. /var/log/cups/whatever only seem to say that every page was printed succesfully.
[03:12] <erstazi> LjL: that has to be *somewhere* in some repo, or someone has it somewhere on their hard drive
[03:12] <usr13> LjL: What printer is it.
[03:12] <LjL> usr13: i've tried all the drivers that it let me chose - some Gutenprint, some not. it's a Canon BJC-250.
[03:13] <maxey2> hi
[03:13] <maxey2> i need some help
[03:13] <maxey2> with nvidia drivers
[03:13] <LjL> erstazi, it must be in the packages i installed, since it *does* show up again now after installing .*gutenprint.*
[03:13] <dgjones> !ask | maxey2
[03:13] <ikonia> maxey2 thanask
[03:13] <ubotu> maxey2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:14] <maxey2> cool, so the driver in the restricted drivers thing, is the proper driver?
[03:14] <ikonia> yes
[03:14] <ikonia> maxey2 its official nvidia driver packaged for use in ubuntu
[03:14] <maxey2> alrighty
[03:14] <usr13> LjL: See:  http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-250
[03:14] <maxey2> thanks
[03:15] <maxey2> i was having a hard time trying to instal manually
[03:15] <maxey2> linux some dreaking exe equivalent
[03:15] <kst> why do some dialogues/apps select me font "Sans" and some others dont show this font?
[03:15] <maxey2> *freaking
[03:15] <LjL> usr13: been there... i think the gutenprint driver i've been trying to use is the recommended one.
[03:15] <ikonia> maxey2 pardon ?
[03:15] <maxey2> something you double click and installs alone
[03:16] <Xera> .deb? :|
[03:16] <maxey2> perhaps
[03:16] <maxey2> i'm new to linux
[03:16] <ikonia> maxey2 thats already in place, if you read the resritected driver manager
[03:16] <ikonia> maxey2 you just double click "nvidia" and it does it all for you
[03:16] <LjL> usr13: although, the *other* drivers that it lists (i'm sure i've tried at least bj200, bj250gs, bj600) also don't work. i think bj250gs results in the job being stuck in the queue, though, instead of just disappearing
[03:16] <D4N`> hey
[03:16] <maxey2> i guess then, but i'm talking about other apps
[03:16] <gilos> Does anyone know how to force update manager to use the socks proxy for pulling down updates?
[03:16] <maxey2> something that's not on the lists
[03:17] <ikonia> maxey2 same for other apps, use synaptic
[03:17] <maxey2> ok then
[03:17] <maxey2> i guess i should stop assuming
[03:17] <maxey2> :p
[03:17] <LjL> !it
[03:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:17] <ikonia> maxey2 read the docs, and you won't make a mess of things
[03:17] <maxey2> i'm slowly figuring things out
[03:18] <maxey2> if only there was a proper direct-x wrapper, i would ditch windows altogether
[03:18] <natsume> ermss
[03:18] <PhoenixP3K> Couldn't find the official release date for 7.10, anyone here knows?
[03:18] <luk1> hey
[03:18] <natsume> what is ubuntu dev channel ?
[03:18] <luk1> wen is 7.10 coming out
[03:19] <J-_> mid october
[03:19] <LjL> !gutsy > luk1    (luk1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:19] <LjL> !channels > natsume    (natsume, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:19] <Kurosagi> 18 of oct
[03:19] <luk1> kk
[03:19] <genii> Yes, 17-18th
[03:19] <maxey2> what's in store for 7.10?
[03:19] <PhoenixP3K> Thanks guys
[03:19] <natsume> !channel
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <natsume> !channels
[03:19] <LjL> !channels
[03:19] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[03:20] <LjL> though, you *did* receive a PM from ubotu.
[03:20] <natsume> yup
[03:20] <maxey2> brb
[03:20] <genii> maxey2: channel #ubuntu+1 will still be for Gutsy (7.10) til after the release date, you can ask about features in there
[03:20] <natsume> thanks
[03:20] <genii> bah they went
[03:20] <kst> can someone plz tell me what his default font in firefox is?
[03:22] <erUSUL> kst: Deja Vu Sans ?
[03:22] <kst> size?
[03:23] <Kurosagi> 16 i guess
[03:23] <erUSUL> kst: i have 16
[03:23] <natsume> ermss
[03:23] <natsume> make a mistake
[03:23] <natsume> hehehe,
[03:23] <kst> will do, thanks erUSUL
[03:25] <usr13> LjL: System -> Administration -> Printers
[03:26] <LjL> usr13, and then? (remember i cannot try anything right now, not at that computer)
[03:26] <titun> my audio is not working, is it because i did acpi=off while booting as my touchpad was not working?
[03:26] <titun> how do i do acpi=on now and get back my audio?
[03:27] <usr13> LjL: Just look for something that is not configured properly. See that it is set as default etc. etc.
[03:27] <orlandoj> hi all.I configure the NIS client on ubuntu and i'm with trouble to log in.
[03:27] <orlandoj> it is looking for the /home/<user>
[03:27] <LjL> usr13, i've spent a lot of time on it. deleted the printer, recreated it from scratch...
[03:27] <AndrewB> 32
[03:27] <usr13> LjL: Also, check  the print cable.  Unblug and plug it in again, make sure connections are ok, check for dirty connector pins, etc.
[03:27] <ikonia> orlandoj whats the problem with your nis client
[03:28] <orlandoj> and int the server, the /etc/passwd is
[03:28] <usr13> LjL: It is parrallel printer, right?
[03:28] <LjL> usr13, uhm, but if it were the cable, why would CUPS not stop and give an error, instead of pretending the page did print? yes, parallel
[03:28] <orlandoj> jorge:x:1001:1001:,,,:/servidor/home/jorge:/bin/bash
[03:28] <ikonia> orlandoj what is the actual problem ?
[03:28] <maxey1> what is the best video player for ubuntu?
[03:28] <LjL> !best
[03:28] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:28] <genii> titun: edit the menu.lst file where that option is specified for booting the kernel and remove the "acpi=off"
[03:28] <LjL> !players > maxey1    (maxey1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:29] <Lam1> maxey1: try vnc
[03:29] <orlandoj> the user diretory is /servidor/home/jorge ( for example )
[03:29] <Alfadir__> how do i close X so I can install nvidia driver?
[03:29] <usr13> LjL: Because it may not have communication / connection on all needed contacts.
[03:29] <titun> genii: thanks for replying, but will that hang my touchpad again on reboot?
[03:29] <LjL> Alfadir__: ctrl+alt+backspace (warning, no warning will be given before closing it)
[03:29] <erUSUL> Alfadir__: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:29] <LjL> usr13: i guess that's possible.
[03:29] <genii> Alfadir__: logout to the logn screen. choose for login type Terminal or console
[03:29] <orlandoj> and the ?Ubuntu client should look for /home/jorge
[03:30] <ikonia> orlandoj I'm not sure I follow - you're saying your ubuntu box is looking at /home$user rather than server:/home/$user
[03:30] <genii> titun: If it was happening previously, then perhaps, yes
[03:30] <Alfadir__> okay, ty
[03:31] <titun> genii: humm.... btw do u think the disappearance of audio is related to ACPI off?
[03:31] <genii> titun: Quite possible, yes
[03:31] <titun> genii: coz i am sure audio worked fine before
[03:31] <titun> genii: ok
[03:31] <usr13> LjL: Could be that you have an inability to communicate properly with the printer.
[03:31] <usr13> LjL: So don't rule out a hardware issue.
[03:31] <genii> titun: There are quite a few different kernel options which can be specified at boot relating to acpi and irq settings, etc.
[03:32] <noelferreira> how can i aplly this patch?
[03:32] <noelferreira> NetworkManager-0.6.0-0.6.1.diff.gz
[03:32] <titun> genii: oh, btw where is it ? i am not yet familiar with file locations
[03:32] <ikonia> noelferreira you have to recompile network manager, I advise against her
[03:32] <noelferreira> should i download tar.gz and compile it?
[03:33] <noelferreira> ikonia,
[03:33] <murlidhar> Fill in the Blanks  1> the best comic reader in Ubuntu is ..................?
[03:33] <ikonia> noelferreira I advise against it because it can potentially break your package manager
[03:33] <genii> titun: The file which has the kernel boot settings is: /boot/grub/menu.lst    you need to edit with admin privelege, so: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst   when making changes you wish to save
[03:33] <Crozar> Macintosh with Boot camp doing MAC OSX and Windows * can we add ubuntu aswell with the option list?
[03:33] <ikonia> murlidhar its personal opinion
[03:33] <Jork> in which repository is pidgin??
[03:33] <ikonia> murlidhar look for yourself
[03:33] <noelferreira> ok
[03:33] <ikonia> Jork its not
[03:33] <dgjones> !pidgin | Jork
[03:33] <ubotu> Jork: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[03:33] <titun> genii: ok
[03:33] <genii> titun: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     rather
[03:33] <Jork> thank you!
[03:33] <murlidhar> ikonia: give me some choices i don't know any
[03:34] <genii> (I need more coffee)
[03:34] <ikonia> murlidhar apt-cache search or synaptic search "comimc"
[03:34] <LjL> usr13: i guess i should bring a laptop, maybe with Windows on it, and test the printer with it next time i go there
[03:34] <maxey1> what is the best video output?
[03:34] <usr13> LjL: Donesn't have to be windows.  Probably better to be Linux.
[03:35] <Kurosagi> is there anycommand that show me in what server am i
[03:35] <Kurosagi> ?
[03:35] <murlidhar> ikonia: ah great idea . i am dumb
[03:35] <magzilla> Hi all
[03:35] <Pici> !best > maxey1 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:35] <magzilla> Can anyone help me with a problem I've had since I upgraded to the Beta? When X starts I get a blank screen
[03:35] <LjL> usr13: well, but not Feisty with the latest updates - as if i used that, and it didn't print, i still wouldn't know whether it's a Feisty problem or a hardware problem..
[03:36] <LjL> !gutsy > magzilla    (magzilla, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:36] <tochar> hey, is there a way i can get the source for an ubuntu package, on a non ubuntu system?
[03:36] <titun> genii: i am now rebooting with acpi=on, please pray for me :)
[03:36] <noelferreira> ikonia, i can i install latest version of wireless tools. (configure: error: wireless-tools >= 28pre9 not installed or not functional)
[03:36] <LjL> tochar: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:36] <magzilla> Thanks!
[03:36] <murlidhar> ikonia: threre are so many . can any of them read pdf comics
[03:36] <kahrytan> Jork, you can get pidgin at getdeb.net
[03:37] <Jork> thanks kahrytan im getting it
[03:37] <usr13> LjL: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526379
[03:37] <kahrytan> Jork, uninstall gaim and don't worry about ubuntu-desktop removal. it's just a meta package. Just need it for upgrades.
[03:38] <Jork> kahrytan: how do i unistall gaim? (sorry im new to linux...)
[03:38] <kahrytan> Jork, add/remove program
[03:38] <Jork> ok thanks!
[03:38] <LjL> usr13: i've stumbled upon that thread, it seems like a different issue though (starts printing and then stop). but i'll keep in mind to try and delete those files, if they're there
[03:39] <kahrytan> Jork, I have pidgin installed and it works nicely.
[03:39] <bieb> pidgin rocks
[03:39] <usr13> LjL: But there are tips there, such as looking to see that printer spooling directories exist;  sudo ls /var/spool/cups
[03:40] <tochar> tnx LjL
[03:42] <doppelgaenger> Whats the codename of the new snaphot and when will it be released please ?
[03:43] <murlidhar> ikonia: there are so many please tell me about a comic reader which can read pdf too
[03:43] <javier> :)
[03:43] <Woet> 4 mins for ubuntu download to finish
[03:43] <Woet> :O
[03:44] <nadis> Woet: so fast
[03:44] <UnUnOctium> hahah
[03:44] <UnUnOctium> clearly Woet isn't on south african internet :p
[03:44] <UnUnOctium> else it would take him approx a week :p
[03:45] <nadis> UnUnOctium: quiet different...
[03:45] <murlidhar> can anybody tell me a good comic reader which can read a pdf too
[03:45] <Woet> lol
[03:45] <Woet> i mean, i have been waitring for over an hour now
[03:45] <ikonia> murlidhar you know what to search for
[03:45] <Woet> almost finish
[03:45] <Woet> :D
[03:46] <UnUnOctium> Woet, here we're stuck at speeds of 52KB/s
[03:46] <rohan> crimsun: ping, are you around ?
[03:48] <wers> where in gconf can I change font configuration?
[03:48] <Woet> lol too bad UnUnOctium
[03:48] <Woet> DONE
[03:48] <Woet> :D
[03:48] <UnUnOctium> :(
[03:50] <SirNeo[at] Work> can someone tell me whow i set up a ppoe connection over ubuntu ?
[03:50] <TheSkorm> WTIH MAGIC
[03:50] <LjL> !pppoe
[03:50] <erUSUL> wers: what font conf? system>Preferences>Fonts is not enough
[03:50] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:50] <TheSkorm> SirNeo[at] Work: gimmie your pppoe card and ill give you my adsl modem
[03:50] <LjL> !pppoe
[03:50] <SirNeo[at] Work> !pppoe
[03:51] <SirNeo[at] Work> k
[03:51] <wers> erUSUL, I'm on gutsy
[03:51] <wers> hehe
[03:51] <erUSUL> TheSkorm: pppoe is used by many adsl modems
[03:51] <erUSUL> !gutsy > wers
[03:51] <TheSkorm> erUSUL: I know I just dont wanna use my crappy adsl modem anymore, I want my router (freebsd) to do all the hard work
[03:52] <GuHHH> does someone knows a bittorrent client that let me choose files (inside a torrent) that i want to download, instead of all the files in the torrent?
[03:52] <wers> yep. I'm asking there too, but folks here may know where I can find font configuration in gconf
[03:52] <babo> guys can anyone help here ? My named daemon seems to be working, my httpd daemon is fine. Yet when I try to go to my web page albumshopper.com. I get 'Bad Hostname' ... :-( I didn't do anything. This just happened all of a sudden ...
[03:52] <ubotwo> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:52] <TheSkorm> babo: its your httpd config
[03:53] <FastPutty> why do i get this error when i try to launch a tc script, RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[03:53] <TheSkorm> I'd setting up vhosts or what not broke it
[03:53] <babo> TheSkorm: It can't be, it worked fine up to 5 mins ago. I didn't change anything ...
[03:53] <ikonia> wers ask in #ubuntu+1 only
[03:53] <babo> TheSkorm: what should I look for in my httpd config then ?
[03:53] <TheSkorm> babo: the apache server is reporting the error right?
[03:53] <titun> who was the person who was talking with me few minutes ago about ACPI=on/off?
[03:54] <murlidhar> allright atlast i hve decided to install comix  but is giving errors here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39268/
[03:54] <genii> titun: Does your touchpad work?
[03:54] <babo> TheSkorm: nope. no error in apache
[03:54] <TheSkorm> well babo, from what i can make out, apache doesnt have an entry for the domain your using.
[03:54] <TheSkorm> in vhosts
[03:54] <nadis> where can i register a IRC account?
[03:54] <genii> !register | nadis
[03:54] <ubotu> nadis: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:54] <TheSkorm> babo: I mean, is your browser saying it or the server?
[03:54] <titun> genii: yes if i disable acpi, touchpad works, audio does not
[03:55] <babo> TheSkorm: Like i said - it worked fine up to 5 mins ago ... The browser is saying it ...
[03:55] <babo> apache has no (relevant) errors in the log
[03:55] <titun> genii: but i did acpi=on and audio did work, on boot screen, but touchpad+keyboard does not
[03:56] <genii> titun: What is exact make/model of your laptop?
[03:56] <titun> genii: Lenovo 3000 series Y500 43Q
[03:56] <genii> titun: OK, looking for model-specific pages
[03:56] <titun> genii: i was too frastrated that my touchpad did not work, now it does , only if i can get my audio....
[03:57] <TheSkorm> oh the browser is saying it
[03:57] <TheSkorm> does the ip work?
[03:58] <genii> titun: i think the idea here is to find a way to correctly get touchpad working with acpi
[03:58] <Auckla> Wow, so far my Ubuntu expierance is working out quite nice.
[03:58] <tatters> I have setup a ubuntu box to use pxe to install Ubuntu over the network, is there a way to do this without having a internet connection , such as using a ISO??
[03:58] <Auckla> I was angered for awhile when there was no flash player that could play certain things online.
[03:58] <wers> is 98 the default dpi value?
[03:59] <titun> genii: yes....exactly
[03:59] <ikonia> tatters yes, totally
[03:59] <TheSkorm> Auckla: Sorry, I have not seen this error before('nice') please report it to but tracker
[03:59] <titun> genii: then audio will work automatically
[03:59] <babo> TheSkorm: no error in the apache logs. No record of an attempted access in the access log
[03:59] <tatters> ikonia: how?
[03:59] <babo> TheSkorm: named is chroot'ed and isn't logging. It does work though when i test it with dig ...
[04:00] <TheSkorm> babo: does going to the ip work?
[04:00] <babo> TheSkorm: yes
[04:00] <Past_Images> hey guys i can't join the fedora irc room it says i need to be identified or something, other rooms don't do this?
[04:00] <TheSkorm> Are you hosting your own dns?
[04:00] <TheSkorm> or just using named to cache?
[04:01] <babo> TheSkorm: dig albumshopper.com @72.232.183.2 works fine. The IP works fine. albumshopper.com won't work, but doesn't show an error or an access log attempt...
[04:01] <titun> Past_Images: i think u need to register a nick with Freenode, to get into a channel, every channel needs it
[04:01] <titun> Past_Images: including #ubuntu,
[04:01] <babo> TheSkorm: the server has it's own dns and I have my own named daemon locally ...
[04:01] <TheSkorm> see, with dig, I belive it goes to the root domain servers first
[04:01] <babo> TheSkorm: does albumshopper.com work for you ?
[04:01] <Past_Images> titun, but how come i can talk in here?
[04:01] <TheSkorm> if you use host albumshopper.com itll use your resolv.conf
[04:01] <TheSkorm> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[04:02] <spiderpig> what is the command to see the permissions on a file?
[04:02] <TheSkorm> dns may not have prograted yet?
[04:02] <TheSkorm> chmod
[04:02] <TheSkorm> erm
[04:02] <spiderpig> chmod and then what?
[04:02] <TheSkorm> ls -l
[04:02] <titun> Past_Images: i am not sure but u can use the present nick until someone registers this nick with freenode
[04:02] <spiderpig> ok
[04:02] <tatters> So far I tried Ultimate deployment appliance and Diskless Remote Boot Linux but any solution I come across  uses netinstall, not found a way to mount a iso over pxe
[04:02] <seisen> how do you get the cube enable in gutsy?
[04:02] <khamael> seisen: go to #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <titun> Past_Images: i think this is a nick u choose temporarily while starting ur IRC client, am i correct?
[04:02] <erUSUL> !gutsy | seisen
[04:03] <seisen> ok
[04:03] <babo> TheSkorm: not possible the dns records are 3 months old. I didn't change anything ...
[04:03] <Past_Images> titun, yeah that's it but i joined this channel and can join others just not fedora
[04:03] <ubotu> seisen: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:03] <kimmey2k3> is ubuntu really totally free?
[04:03] <TheSkorm> well i cant get them
[04:03] <TheSkorm> Have you paid your bills babo
[04:03] <babo> TheSkorm: I'm not updating dns. I wasn't doing anything when this happened ...
[04:03] <magnetron> kimmey2k3: yes, it's really free
[04:03] <babo> TheSkorm: why would they shut off my dns resolution for not paying my bills ?
[04:04] <titun> Past_Images: may be other channels don't show a caution message, but fedora channel does to let u know before hand
[04:04] <tatters> ikonia: are u aware of how to achieve my aim?
[04:04] <Past_Images> kimmey2k3, completely and totally and always has been
[04:04] <magnetron> kimmey2k3: however, some of the drivers have restrictions on them
[04:04] <TheSkorm> babo: because they want money
[04:04] <kimmey2k3> right magnetron :o
[04:04] <babo> presumably they'd just take the server off line ... ? http://72.232.183.2 still works ...
[04:04] <TheSkorm> babo: And did you just confece to not paying your bills?
[04:04] <TheSkorm> yeah it works
[04:04] <babo> TheSkorm: no I paid my bills
[04:04] <TheSkorm> but your dns is fucked
[04:04] <mgrignoli> I need help!!!!!!!! Problem with wifi. Please see the link with information about:  http://nopaste.ch/acf456a9e1b22dd.html
[04:05] <hjmills> how do I get a bash script to wait for any keypress?
[04:05] <kimmey2k3> !!!!!!
[04:05] <erUSUL> !ohmy | TheSkorm
[04:05] <ubotu> TheSkorm: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:05] <TheSkorm> babo: I think its your providor
[04:05] <magnetron> kimmey2k3: you're swedish? we have a Swedish ubuntu channel, #ubuntu-se . feel free to join me there
[04:05] <TheSkorm> sorry erUSUL
[04:05] <kimmey2k3> im norwegian, but sure i can join :p
[04:05] <babo> TheSkorm: it would be an exceedingly strange way of cutting someone off. I don't even know how that would be possible ?
[04:05] <babo> TheSkorm: i doubt it.
[04:06] <yori> hi..
[04:06] <spiderpig> -rwxrwxrwx
[04:06] <spiderpig> what is the first - ?
[04:06] <atlas95> hello
[04:06] <TheSkorm> babo: whose your domain regesitred with?
[04:06] <spiderpig> for directory or file?
[04:06] <atlas95> anybody have a Dell XPS 1330 please?
[04:06] <babo> TheSkorm:besides I just got an approved invoice from them yesterday
[04:06] <TheSkorm> - is file
[04:06] <babo> TheSkorm: namecheap
[04:06] <TheSkorm> d is directory
[04:06] <tatters> Is it possible to install ubuntu over pxe without internet connection?
[04:06] <spiderpig> ok thanks
[04:06] <erUSUL> spiderpig: type you have - file d dir l link
[04:06] <aata> hello world
[04:07] <aata> i have a question
[04:07] <genii> titun: Hmm. are you using the 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:07] <gerard> hey does anyone know where Steam saves videos to
[04:07] <shearn89> aata: go ahead.
[04:07] <titun> genii: no no ,
[04:07] <TheSkorm> babo: [mwheeler@watermelon.internal.theskorm.net]  [~] $ dig -trace albumshopper.com
[04:07] <usr13> aata: what is your question?
[04:07] <TheSkorm> ;; Warning, ignoring invalid type race
[04:07] <aata> is anyone fedup with the ifup ifdown thing?
[04:07] <TheSkorm> Usually I would get a nameserver response atleast
[04:07] <maxey1> gerard: in the common folder in steamapps
[04:07] <aata> why cant we have an ifupdown command or something
[04:07] <usr13> aata: I use ifconfig up and down
[04:07] <aata> that resets the interface
[04:07] <gerard> maxey1: :D nice one
[04:08] <maxey1> no problem
[04:08] <TheSkorm> aata: lol
[04:08] <aata> i wrote a shell script\
[04:08] <spiderpig> i do 'chmod -rwx------ filename' but it does not work it still is ---------- ????
[04:08] <aata> its called ifdu
[04:08] <TheSkorm> well done aata
[04:08] <genii> titun: OK
[04:08] <usr13> aata: cool
[04:08] <aata> does exactly that
[04:08] <aata> so much more useful
[04:08] <aata> hehe
[04:08] <TheSkorm> you can just ifconfig eth0 down ; ifconfig eth0 up
[04:08] <maxey1> gerard: actually i'm wrong
[04:08] <titun> genii: i am praying with fingures crossed
[04:08] <aata> i was thinking of trying to get it included in gutsy gibbon
[04:08] <maxey1> it's in the media folder
[04:09] <aata> but alas its too far into dev
[04:09] <maxey1> inside the steamapps
[04:09] <erUSUL> spiderpig: that's not the syntax for chmod
[04:09] <TheSkorm> Why write a 30 byte file when youll only use it 19 times in the life of the os
[04:09] <usr13> TheSkorm: Or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:09] <erUSUL> spiderpig: man chmod for details
[04:09] <tatters> Cant u just create an alias for that command such as netup
[04:09] <gerard> maxey1: well there appear to be files in there but the trailer ends .gcf
[04:09] <TheSkorm> usr13: not really the user want just one interface from what i remember
[04:09] <shearn89> spiderpig: do chmod a+rwx <filename>
[04:10] <aata> anyone know any bar type window navigators?
[04:10] <maxey1> gerard: mine are in wmv
[04:10] <atlnts> Has anyone installed an Oracle client?  I have one from their web page, but its not working... It says you need to set the environment library variable to include their 'lib' directory.  What is the library environment var for Ubuntu?
[04:10] <usr13> O
[04:10] <titun> genii: please note, both touchpad and keyboard does not work when acpi=off
[04:10] <TheSkorm> shearn89: a) bad suggestion b) octals > * - chmod 777
[04:10] <aata> better looking than avant, but less resource heavy than kiba?
[04:10] <TheSkorm> chmoding something to 777 is neva good
[04:10] <shearn89> TheSkorm: how come?
[04:10] <gerard> maxey1: are you sure that is the correct location
[04:10] <LjL> hjmills: read -n 1
[04:10] <maxey1> gerard: open steam and force the videos to open with associated media application
[04:10] <hjmills> LjL, thanks
[04:10] <genii> titun: I am researching this.
[04:11] <hjmills> LjL, what does the -n 1 bit do?
[04:11] <gerard> maxey1: how
[04:11] <maxey1> gerard: steam folder > steamapps > media
[04:11] <usr13> TheSkorm: I had someone ask earlier where would be the best place to put a custom built firewall script.
[04:11] <LjL> hjmills: stops reading after one character.  help read 
[04:11] <gerard> maxey1: oh I tried that.. it plays jibberish
[04:11] <hjmills> LjL, thanks - i tried man but that got me nowhere
[04:12] <maxey1> gerard: no wmv files?
[04:12] <aata> will gutsy have fusion installed by default?
[04:12] <shearn89> aata: yes.
[04:12] <magnetron> aata: yes
[04:12] <LjL> hjmills, internal bash commands aren't documented by man, only help
[04:12] <aata> awesome
[04:12] <hjmills> LjL, thanks
[04:12] <TheSkorm> Please tell me whats wrong with me, I stay up to 0:10 in the morning giving ubuntu support
[04:12] <TheSkorm> I need to get out more
[04:12] <aata> does that mean no more fiddling around with xserver?
[04:12] <TheSkorm> I don't even run ubuntu
[04:12] <gerard> maxey1: not one
[04:12] <aata> TheSkorm: YEAH you do
[04:13] <tatters> I got a Laptop without floppy or cd drive/ I use pxe to install Ubuntu via netinstall is there a way to do this install locally without a internet connection such as using disto .iso
[04:13] <usr13> I looked around for a while and finally decided on /etc/rcS.d/S41forewall
[04:13] <LjL> TheSkorm, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic - i think you'll find people with the same problem.
[04:13] <shearn89> TheSkorm: Its because we're all cool. also, what does "octals ..." mean
[04:13] <aata> LjL:lol
[04:13] <gerard> maxey1: they all end .gcf
[04:13] <usr13> since I saw /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[04:13] <TheSkorm> digits
[04:13] <TheSkorm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octal
[04:13] <gerard> maxey1: I also tried changing the extension but that did nothing
[04:14] <shearn89> cheers.
[04:14] <maxey1> no no
[04:14] <maxey1> gcf are like zips
[04:14] <gerard> hmm
[04:14] <maxey1> gerard: do this, open steam, go to media tab, right-click on a video and select "play with associated app"
[04:15] <maxey1> this will force steam to extract the files to the media folder
[04:15] <TheSkorm> r-1 w-2 x-4, 1=1 1+2=3 1+4=5, 2+4=6, 1+2+4=7
[04:16] <gerard> maxey1: it just errors out time again.. no win media player
[04:16] <TheSkorm> notice no matter what combination i make their are no double up answers
[04:16] <maxey1> gerard: weird
[04:16] <shearn89> okay. and the 777 means rwx for all users?
[04:16] <maxey1> are you using wine?
[04:16] <TheSkorm> yup
[04:16] <shearn89> got it.
[04:17] <maxey1> gerard: maybe you should switch to windows and do it there
[04:17] <shearn89> wait - whats the 3rd user group? I guess sudo, me, then what?
[04:17] <titun> genii: thank you so much for trying for my problem, i have to leave office now, may be  i will be here in a hour @home.... c ya
[04:17] <gerard> maxey1: hmm.. :(
[04:17] <TheSkorm> umm cant remember order, but user,group,other
[04:17] <gerard> maxey1: well I'll look into it later
[04:17] <aata> hey is anyone here from the us?
[04:17] <maxey1> gerard: ok
[04:17] <shearn89> TheSkorm: cheers. You learn something new every day!
[04:17] <gerard> maxey1: oddly google yields no results
[04:17] <Woet> Hmm.. i just burned my ubuntu CD
[04:17] <Woet> but my pc doesnt regonize it
[04:18] <aata> cause i was wondering what kind of download speeds you get there?
[04:18] <gerard> maxey1: no appropriate ones anyone
[04:18] <shearn89> Woet: is your computer set to boot from cd?
[04:18] <Woet> yes
[04:18] <insllvn> not sure if this is the right place to ask this but here goes  i installed kubuntu on top of an existing ubuntu install using apt-get install i now want to revert to ubuntu everything else has been removed and i seem to be running ubuntu the apt command claims i have removed kubuntu-desktop  but when i boot the machine i still get the kubuntu loading screen ie KUBUNTU with a loading bar beneath it how do i fix that?
[04:18] <Woet> but the CD is broken
[04:18] <Woet> let me fix it
[04:18] <maxey1> gerard: steam wasn't definitely made for linux
[04:18] <TheSkorm> shearn89: no problem
[04:18] <maxey1> what do i need to run steam on linux anyway
[04:18] <maxey1> ?
[04:18] <shearn89> insllvn: that'll will be the splash screen. not sure how to change it though.
[04:18] <TheSkorm> I'm going to cathc some zZz
[04:19] <shearn89> TheSkorm: good idea... where are you?
[04:19] <TheSkorm> Australia
[04:19] <gerard> maxey1: oh I know
[04:19] <Auckla> maxey1, There was a guy in here saying that he was using Wine earlier.
[04:19] <shearn89> ah. yeah, i see why you need sleep....
[04:19] <erUSUL> insllvn: you can uninstall kubuntu-desktop but that won't remove the packages it depends on
[04:19] <TheSkorm> Tue Oct  2 00:19:40 EST 2007
[04:19] <gerard> maxey1: just wondering why I cant find a duplicate of the problem
[04:19] <Auckla> maxey1, Installed it using wine, and runs it via wine. Said somthing about Tahoma.rtff font or somthing.
[04:19] <shearn89> TheSkorm: hahaha....
[04:20] <gerard> Auckla: you need the tahoma font installed first
[04:20] <aata> hey anyone, is automatix recommended for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Auckla> I was just repeating what I saw someone say earlier. I have'nt tried it yet.
[04:20] <gerard> oh
[04:20] <dgjones> aata, no, its generally advised against
[04:21] <dgjones> !automatix | aata
[04:21] <ubotu> aata: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:21] <magnetron> aata: no , it's recommended that you don't use it
[04:21] <Journeyman> anyone know when the next LTS will be?
[04:21] <aata> because?
[04:21] <magnetron> aata: it may damage your system and make it inrepairable
[04:21] <aata> ooh scare
[04:21] <gerard> Auckla: here http://www.wine-doors.org/ might be useful
[04:21] <aata> scary*
[04:21] <Journeyman> I have never had a problem with automatrix
[04:21] <LjL> !worksforme
[04:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[04:21] <shearn89> Journeyman: the 18th of Oct. Gutsy.
[04:21] <toresbe> howdy
[04:21] <Journeyman> and I am pretty sure it is not inrepairable if it breaks your system
[04:21] <magnetron> aata: also, it is unnecessary
[04:22] <moforilla> I booted into ubuntu, with a ntfs drive from windows, ubuntu is unable to mount this drive, any ideas why?
[04:22] <toresbe> I've got a problem with Gutsy. Is this rthe right forum for the question?
[04:22] <magnetron> !worksforme | Journeyman
[04:22] <ubotu> Journeyman: please see above
[04:22] <shearn89> moforilla: ubuntu can't by default read ntfs drives.
[04:22] <LjL> !gutsy > toresbe    (toresbe, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:22] <aata> ive messed up my feisty install so many times, im beginning to think that on some subconscious level, i like getting into trouble just so i can fix it. :)
[04:22] <shearn89> moforilla: you'd have to install ntfs-3g, which is unstable....
[04:22] <toresbe> LjL: thanks!
[04:23] <magnetron> aata: srsly, "add/remove applications" is much better than automatix
[04:23] <moforilla> shearn89, unstable?, how unstable? Like don't use it unstable?
[04:23] <magnetron> aata: + it wont break your setup
[04:23] <aata> thats way true
[04:24] <shearn89> moforilla: don't know, i've never tried it. Probs just means read all the info before trying it, and don't rant if it don't work....
[04:24] <magnetron> shearn89, moforilla: it's stable enough for home use
[04:24] <moforilla> shearn89, Im just worried its going to stuff up my files
[04:24] <aata> wow magnetron. automatix sounds crappy
[04:24] <aata> hehe
[04:24] <magnetron> moforilla: don't be. ntfs-3g is stable enough
[04:25] <amio> hi any one knows whats wrong with the gnome panel it disappeard then when I start it by the command killall-gnome it offs again after next restart what should  I do? i dont want to format again pc
[04:25] <aata> how can you get a certain windows partitions by default during startup?
[04:25] <moforilla> magnetron, Im going to give ita go now, did Ubuntu use to come with this package?
[04:25] <erUSUL> !ntfs | aata
[04:25] <ubotu> aata: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:26] <magnetron> !ntfs-3g | moforilla
[04:26] <ubotu> moforilla: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:26] <aata> i know that
[04:26] <aata> and i can easily mount it with a mount command
[04:26] <magnetron> moforilla: in gutsy, ntfs-3g is included by default
[04:26] <shearn89> aata: if you want it to boot automatically edit the menu.lst in /boot/grub/ (back it up first)
[04:26] <aata> however, how to auto mount it on startup?
[04:26] <moforilla> magnetron, Im on xubuntu
[04:26] <magnetron> aata, fstab
[04:27] <erUSUL> aata: the link(s) we gave explain how
[04:27] <aata> no i want to boot into feisty, but want to mount the partition automatically and have it ready
[04:27] <amio> hi any one knows whats wrong with the gnome panel it disappeard then when I start it by the command killall-gnome it offs again after next restart what should  I do? i dont want to format again pc
[04:27] <shearn89> aata: you could always just write a script to do it. unless there's an answer in the links given above.
[04:27] <magnetron> aata: edit /etc/fstab
[04:28] <shearn89> amio: you can't start it with killall. that will stop it.
[04:28] <hjmills> how do I get bash to run gnome-terminal with a series of commands then exit after the last command to carry on with the script?
[04:28] <shearn89> hjmills: gnome-terminal -e <command>
[04:28] <shearn89> it might be -x instead of -e
[04:28] <zmp> is it possible to install ubuntu on an ntfs partition?
[04:29] <shearn89> zmp: no.
[04:29] <magnetron> hjmills: you make another script and tell gnometerminal to run it
[04:29] <zmp> arw
[04:29] <aata> i dont think theres an answer to automount in the links you provided.
[04:29] <aata> what flags do i add in fstab
[04:29] <hjmills> shearn89, do I need to quote the command if it has spaces?
[04:29] <hjmills> magnetron, could I do it with a function or something rather than a whole seperate script?
[04:30] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[04:30] <magnetron> hjmills: no
[04:30] <hjmills> magnetron, darn, thanks
[04:30] <amio> sheran89 I know its already not shown some one adivced me t o kill then start I killed and it appears even without restarting then next restart it disappears from alt+f2 when I type gnome-panel it says already runing then what should I do?
[04:30] <hedonplay> how to change the default port for x-chat-gnome from 6667 to 8001?
[04:30] <shearn89> hjmills: i think if it has spaces, yes.
[04:30] <babo> whenever I try to update my dns records I keep getting ... nRRPResponseCode 2306
[04:30] <joules> is there anyway to use a command for gutsy if im using the live cd for feisty
[04:30] <babo> from namecheap.
[04:30] <shearn89> amio: kill $(pgrep gnome-panel); gnome-panel &
[04:31] <hedonplay> any help?
[04:31] <babo> I'm trying to point my primary records at ns1.flowerhour.biz
[04:31] <babo> It won't accept the value though :-(
[04:31] <shearn89> amio: does that work?
[04:32] <hedonplay>  how to change the default port for x-chat-gnome from 6667 to 8001?
[04:32] <erUSUL> joules: which command?
[04:33] <AndrewB> hedonplay: XChat-GNOME users can change this by going to Edit -> Preferences. Then select Networks on the side. Double-click on Ubuntu Servers on the right, click the servers tab, and then change irc.ubuntu.com to irc.ubuntu.com/8001.
[04:33] <LjL> !exploit > hedonplay    (hedonplay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:33] <joules> erUSUL: well i dont know i just need to know if i can start messing with it because i tried to add a second screen and fix firestarter and now x wont load it just stops at a black screen
[04:33] <carlos_> hi?
[04:33] <joules> erUSUL: (on gutsy)
[04:34] <erUSUL> joules: you can boot with the livecd and then chroot (once mounted) to the root partition of gutsy so you will use the gutsy commands
[04:34] <joules> sweet
[04:34] <Phobos> Hi. How do I make a symbolic link in /home and whenever I click on it it leads me to ftp://www.something.com (in Konqueror)
[04:35] <aata> SWEET!
[04:35] <visik7> how can I open a psd file ? no gimp cannot it says: Plug-In could not open image
[04:35] <aata> ntfs-config kicks butt!
[04:35] <hjmills> magnetron, that still isnt working - I am trying to run a sync command then wait for a keypress so I can make sure the sync command ran ok before I continue. As this script will be run automatically I wanted to run the script in a gnome-terminal window. When I use gnome-terminal -x /path/to/script.sh it gives an error about creating the child process
[04:35] <maxey1> ffs, wine doors keeps crashing
[04:35] <hjmills> !info ntfs-config
[04:35] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[04:35] <amio> shearn89 let me restart and see
[04:36] <aata> thanks magnetron\
[04:36] <magnetron> hjmills: could you post the error in a pastebin for us?
[04:36] <magnetron> cheers aata
[04:36] <hjmills> magnetron, sure
[04:37] <Poundo> I have some .so's in '/usr/lib/php5/20051025/' and some in '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/' I need the contents of both dirs listed as my extension dir in php.ini
[04:38] <Poundo> at this point i am considering uninstalling php any suggestions?
[04:38] <Cyber_Stalker> hi, i have a whole lot of directorys with lots of garbled stuff in them... i would like to move all the jpeg's in these files into 1 folder
[04:38] <Cyber_Stalker> how would i do this?
[04:38] <_Lucretia> hi, I need to download some source from an svn repos, but the svn repos requires that the host is using an ISO-8859-1 locale, how can I change it temporarily?
[04:38] <_Lucretia> thanks
[04:38] <hjmills> magnetron, http://pastebin.ca/721734
[04:38] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: mv folder/*.jpeg /path/to/new/folder
[04:38] <joules> im so lost... is there anyway i can uninstall something from my hard disk using the live cd?
[04:39] <joules> also how do i run root under the live cd
[04:39] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: so folder would be /home/cyber
[04:39] <Xera^> Poundo well in Windows you'd add the dirs to your path and PHP would detect them automatically, so I assume as long as they're in your path it should be fine
[04:39] <Cyber_Stalker> cause thats there all of the random folders are
[04:39] <erUSUL> joules: as i said chroot to your gutsy install and run 'sudo apt-get remove packagename'
[04:39] <shearn89> joules: you can use sudo to run root - what are you trying to uninstall?
[04:40] <shearn89> joules: ah i see. There is a sticky in the development forum about chrooting into gutsy.
[04:40] <joules> shearn89: well on the live cd it asks for a password
[04:40] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: if the folder has subfolders you will have to be more elaborate...
[04:40] <hjmills> magnetron, nevermind - it was me being stupid
[04:40] <shearn89> joules: thats your normal user password.
[04:40] <Xera^> Poundo you could also make a new folder(eg php/ext), and either symlink everything or copy them there. (Not really recommended)
[04:40] <magnetron> hjmills: ok, what was the problem?
[04:40] <Xera^> Poundo failing that ask in #php
[04:40] <joules> shearn89: that doesnt make sense because if i was a new user i would not have a password if im using the live cd
[04:41] <bullgard4> What devices are 'js[0-9] *' in the Unix group 'plugdev'?
[04:41] <Cyber_Stalker> oh ok erUSUL because its my home folder that has about 300 sub folders all containing images
[04:41] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: you can do "find folder/ -name '*.jp*g' -print | xargs mv /new/folder"
[04:41] <Cyber_Stalker> because i did a lost file recovery
[04:41] <Poundo> Xera^: thanks I'll try copying which is not recommended copy?
[04:41] <Xera^> Yeah
[04:41] <Xera^> You should try the other methods first, copying them into one dir as a last resort
[04:41] <Poundo> Xera^: ok cool thanks!
[04:41] <shearn89> joules: oh yeah. i'd have a look at the sticky in the forums. should explain everything clearly
[04:42] <joules> shearn89: yeah thats what im doing right now idk why i didnt look for this
[04:42] <cdavis> what package do I need to install to get apache2 server side includes enabled?
[04:42] <shearn89> does anyone know how to install the aurora engine properly? just tried it and all my windows have white lines around them...
[04:43] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: mv: accessing `/home/cyber/recup_dir.348/f26340880.jpg': Permission denied
[04:43] <Cyber_Stalker> i get that alot
[04:43] <hjmills> how do I get bash to finish one command before starting another one? It is currently forking off the gnome-terminal process and immediately starting the evolution process which should wait until gnome-terminal finishes
[04:43] <Cyber_Stalker> and erUSUL this is what i used
[04:43] <shearn89> hjmills: use ";"
[04:43] <Cyber_Stalker> sudo find /home/cyber/ -name '*.jp*g' -print | xargs mv /home/cyber/recovered
[04:44] <hjmills> shearn89, its in a shell script and i thought that ; was the same as a line break
[04:44] <shearn89> hjmills: don't know about line breaks, but in the terminal that means "do this, then do that"
[04:44] <hjmills> shearn89, ok, ill give it a go - thanks
[04:44] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: it seems that you have permissions problems are all the files folders etc owned by you?
[04:45] <Cyber_Stalker> yes
[04:45] <Cyber_Stalker> i am the only user on this machine
[04:45] <shearn89> hjmills: you could also try &&
[04:45] <Cyber_Stalker> shouldnt the sudo have worked?
[04:45] <saxin> Can Ubuntu change wallpapers, like, every minute?
[04:45] <gerard> maxey1: I have set my graphics up for half life 2 in the games options menu but the ones I choose crash the game.. how do I erase what changes I made
[04:46] <kayla> hi
[04:47] <hjmills> saxin, yes, with a script
[04:47] <Cyber_Stalker> kayla:
[04:47] <Cyber_Stalker> gosh thats scary as you said hi my ex gf kayla said hi
[04:47] <hjmills> gerard, looks for an ini file somewhere normally or try using regedit
[04:47] <shearn89> anyone successfully installed the aurora engine?
[04:47] <shiznit> will i be able to migrate this installation to another harddrive, i have everthing working good
[04:47] <hjmills> shiznit, copy the partitions maybe?
[04:48] <saxin> hjmills: where can I find such a script?
[04:48] <maxey1> how do i install cab packages?
[04:49] <shearn89> maxey1: cabextract
[04:49] <maxey1> gerard: steam folder > steamapps > username@mail.com > half-life 2 > hl2 > cfg
[04:51] <hjmills> saxin, the one i used to use rendered an image using xplanet then set that as the background every 30 mins - the script is here http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/FAQ.php#gnome2
[04:52] <saxin> hjmills: ok.. so what shall I do after downloading this script?
[04:52] <hjmills> saxin, look at the stuff from the renaming the background image onwards - thats all to do with changing the background - then rejig it for your own use
[04:53] <kayla> nfjksdhri
[04:53] <gerard> maxey1: that aint it
[04:53] <gerard> but thx anyway
[04:53] <_Lucretia> anybody?
[04:54] <clouder> Are the cops going to come knocking on my door if I install those restricted codecs?
[04:54] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: you still there?
[04:54] <tatters> Is it possible to mount any iso over PXE?
[04:55] <hjmills> clouder, are you legally allowed to install them?
[04:55] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: yep
[04:55] <rickyrich> hi all I need how to configure a webcam that in winsows vista it's called like Soc Pc-camera CIF Single chip, i was always using in ubuntu like a pixart pac207-bca but today it's not working... any idea how to configure it? with vista working great thanks
[04:55] <clouder> how would I know?
[04:55] <hjmills> clouder, aka, do you have a windows license and a license for some form of software such as powerdvd/windvd etc for each format that is there.
[04:55] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: but if you do not prepen my nick to your msgs to me i miss them. It is a busy channel
[04:56] <hjmills> clouder, i think that is the law in most places anyway
[04:56] <_Uli_> HI
[04:56] <hjmills> _Uli_, HELO
[04:56] <_Uli_> anyone can create a desklet from a mac widget?
[04:56] <krammer> I installed kde wallet now I cannot find it any help?
[04:57] <rickyrich>  hi all I need how to configure a webcam that in winsows vista it's called like Soc Pc-camera CIF Single chip, i was always using in ubuntu like a pixart pac207-bca but today it's not working... any idea how to configure it? with vista working great thanks
[04:57] <hjmills> krammer, check your other trousers
[04:58] <krammer> I left them at your moms
[04:58] <LjL> krammer: the KDE Wallet will appear whenever a program requests a password, or requests to store one.
[04:59] <LjL> (And, please keep jokes on #ubuntu-offtopic if anywhere)
[04:59] <krammer> thanks
[04:59] <Cyber_Stalker> yes erUSUL lol i tried to
[04:59] <Cyber_Stalker> could you help me again tho??? /home/cyber/ is filled with directory's containing images of which i want to move to /home/cyber/recovered
[04:59] <Prozac> Is there any easy way to rip an entire Audio-CD to 1 .wav/.cue file ? Ive been looking through grip but I cant really seem to find anything
[05:01] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: could you help me again tho??? /home/cyber/ is filled with directory's containing images of which i want to move to /home/cyber/recovered
[05:01] <Cyber_Stalker> :P
[05:01] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker:  find /home/cyber/ -name '*.jp*g' -print | xargs mv  /home/cyber/recovered
[05:01] <Banker> hi
[05:01] <Banker> im using ubuntu 7.04 for my bank
[05:02] <gerard> does anyone know what file I have to remove to have HalfLife 2 reset the graphics options back to default
[05:02] <rickyrich> hi all I need how to configure a webcam that in winsows vista it's called like Soc Pc-camera CIF Single chip, i was always using in ubuntu like a pixart pac207-bca but today it's not working... any idea how to configure it? with vista working great thanks
[05:02] <hjmills> is there any way to use the output from one command at a specific point in another command?
[05:02] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: as to the permission denied errors you should double check that you actually own the files/folders and that they have the correct permissions
[05:02] <magnetron> hjmills: yes, with pipes
[05:02] <usr13> Prozac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285273
[05:02] <pike__> gerard: if you ls -a ~  you should see a .config directory or whatever name id think
[05:03] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: its still denying access... i will try reconfigure them now with sudo nautilus
[05:03] <magnetron> hjmills: like this: cat /etc/fstab | grep ext
[05:04] <Prozac> ahh thank you usr13, didnt see that on my search
[05:04] <hjmills> magnetron, not quite - I want the output from one command to be displayed in a dialog box by zenity
[05:05] <usr13> Prozac: NP
[05:05] <hjmills> magnetron, the zenity command is zenity --info --text="HERE" with the output from the command being put at the HERE
[05:05] <lifepark> msn#
[05:05] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker:  try this modified version find /home/cyber/ -name '*.jp*g' -print0 | xargs -0 -i mv {}  /home/cyber/recovered
[05:05] <gerard> pike_ na the config dir in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/steamapps/my@mail/half-life 2 demo/hl2/cfg/ does not affect the graphics options
[05:05] <magnetron> hjmills: then you would need to consort to bashims
[05:06] <hjmills> magnetron, what are bashisms?
[05:06] <LjL> hjmills: shell commands that don't really conform to the POSIX standard, but work in bash
[05:06] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: i have just reset all the permissions
[05:06] <lifepark> what is your bashisms?
[05:06] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL:  so it should work fine now if it doesnt i will try the next one
[05:06] <ideasman42_> hinogi, is  to a way to have your home directoy on a samba server?
[05:06] <ideasman42_> just over a lan
[05:07] <LjL> hjmills: zenity --info --text=$(command)
[05:07] <unimatrix9> using the bash for getting work done....
[05:07] <hjmills> LjL, ok thanks
[05:07] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: try the last version i posted
[05:07] <ideasman42_> mounting the samba share into /home seems ok but then the user is not added to the login of that PC -
[05:09] <[nrx__] > can anyone suggest why i can't get kopete to log into the msn protocol while running hsdpa?
[05:09] <ideasman42_> can ubuntu do this?
[05:09] <hjmills> LjL, magnetron, thanks - thats sorted my problem - thanks very much for all the help
[05:10] <ideasman42_> it seems like there would be some "remote authentication" and I just dont know what its called
[05:10] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: that command creates 1 image in my home directory called "recovered"
[05:10] <magnetron> ideasman42_: please be more specific in your question
[05:10] <rickyrich> which softare can i use to see my image with a webcam?
[05:10] <ideasman42_> magnetron, ok
[05:11] <ideasman42_> we are in a small studio - using ubuntu even ;)
[05:11] <ideasman42_> with gigabit ethernet
[05:11] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: i thought that the folder was already created...
[05:11] <ideasman42_> and Im setting up the network with another guy
[05:11] <ideasman42_> neither of as are sysadmins
[05:11] <ideasman42_> us*
[05:12] <ideasman42_> we have a sun server running ubuntu
[05:12] <ideasman42_> and I want all user files to be on the server
[05:12] <ideasman42_> so they con log onto any of the PC;s
[05:12] <ideasman42_> and access their home dir
[05:12] <Pici> !enter | ideasman42_
[05:12] <ubotu> ideasman42_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:12] <gotama> Hi! How can I change the minimal numbers of characters of a password (5 characters). Help please
[05:12] <unimatrix9> would an macbook make the ideal hardware for ubuntu?
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: wait a min
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> so i just moved them all
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> created 1 image
[05:13] <the9a3eedi> unimatrix9: anything would be ideal if it had mostly intel chipsets. that said, I don't know about a macbook
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> that means i have to do the whole recovery thing over again?
[05:13] <ideasman42_> is there some standard way to do this remote authentication? I thaught samba could possibly do it.
[05:13] <unimatrix9> i see
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> cuase i mean i hadnt created the directory :(
[05:13] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: i'm not sure i understand you
[05:13] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[05:13] <[nrx__] > is it possible to 'bridge' network connections?
[05:13] <usr13> ideasman42_: (I think you said your using samba?) - Try nfs
[05:14] <Cyber_Stalker> the directory wasnt created and because i moved them all they are now all gone because there was no directory for them to go into
[05:14] <thesaint4444> hi guys, does apt-get install really old files?
[05:14] <ideasman42_> usr13, how is NFS better for this?
[05:14] <gorski> what is the purpouse of apt-get autoremove?
[05:14] <YenSid> Does anyone have any problems with Java and Firefox on websites?  There's a couple of sites that I go to where everything starts acting funny (like pictures disappear, it takes a loooong time to download, or I have to hit "refresh" to see the whole page) but they display alright in XP using Firefox
[05:14] <Cyber_Stalker> thesaint4444: no it should install the latest build available in the repositorys
[05:14] <usr13> ideasman42_: see: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/
[05:15] <olimpico>  I updated k3b and now when I burn a Data DVD I can't open the files from windows or from my player!!
[05:15] <usr13> ideasman42_: Cliets are all Linux?
[05:15] <olimpico> They did something wrong on the update!!
[05:15] <olimpico> Someone knows about this?
[05:15] <ideasman42_> usr13, yes
[05:15] <ideasman42_> one solaris
[05:15] <mo> what is the best media player for ubuntu?
[05:15] <LjL> !best > mo    (mo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <LjL> !playsers > mo    (mo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:15] <Pici> !players > mo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[05:16] <usr13> ideasman42_: Then use nfs
[05:16] <usr13> ideasman42_: I think you'll have an easier time of it and it will be more efficient.
[05:16] <ideasman42_> usr13, is this somthing samba cant do?
[05:16] <usr13> ideasman42_: Well, yes, I suppose so.
[05:16] <YenSid> Or is it just the java installed that's making everything wierd?
[05:17] <the9a3eedi> Can somebody help me? I got an Asus G1S laptop, which has an nvidia 8600GT . For some reason, the nv driver that comes with Fiesty just doesn't work with the laptop, and so I'm forced to use VESA. I would like to use the official drivers, but Restricted Manager tells me that I dont need any restricted drivers, which is because it thinks VESA is the proper video driver. What do I do next?
[05:17] <usr13> ideasman42_: explain the projected end result
[05:17] <ideasman42_> projected end result is people come into work and can log into any PC to access their files
[05:18] <DanC> I have a Brother-MFC-8870DW attached to a nearby OS X box; how do I print to it from Ubuntu? http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-MFC-8870DW says "works Perfectly" but it doesn't show up in the add printer dialog...
[05:18] <DanC> ... hmm... "go to server" made it show up... but then it crashed.
[05:18] <thesaint4444> Cyber Stalker: who manages the repositories? the debian guys or the package builder guys?
[05:18] <ideasman42_> usr13, is there a name for this though?
[05:18] <usr13> ideasman42_: So, users do not always use the same PC?
[05:18] <DanC> wild! "The problem cannot be reported:
[05:18] <DanC> You have some obsolete package versions installed. Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs:
[05:18] <DanC> python2.5, python2.5-minimal, libc6"
[05:18] <thesaint4444> Cyber Stalker: i just made an install via apt-get and the files are way out of date....
[05:19] <ideasman42_> usr13, ideally they would not need to
[05:19] <Cyber_Stalker> thesaint4444: eish i have no idea actually but they should constantly be uptodate with all the latest things
[05:19] <usr13> ideasman42_: Are you wanting a thin client situation?
[05:19] <ideasman42_> nosc, the PC's will have 500gig hdd
[05:19] <DanC> eek... new libc...
[05:19] <babo> when I try to set my primary domain name server to ns1.flowerhour.biz - it gives me an error :-(
[05:20] <ideasman42_> usr13, more just a way that we are not tied to a PC
[05:20] <ideasman42_> if we need to work in different groups
[05:20] <DanC> hmm... new xchat...
[05:20] <babo> anyone good with dns ^^
[05:20] <babo>  >
[05:20] <babo> ?
[05:21] <DanC> maybe, babo; what's the dns question?
[05:21] <ideasman42_> usr13, NFS is for sharing a filesystem isnt it?
[05:21] <babo> DanC: when I try to set my primary domain name server to ns1.flowerhour.biz - it just says 'error' ... :-(
[05:21] <DanC> what says 'error'?
[05:21] <ideasman42_> does it have extensions for user authentication?
[05:21] <thesaint4444> Cyber Stalker: i need to add an entry to my sources file....
[05:21] <babo> DanC: the namecheap interface that I'm using ...
[05:21] <usr13> ideasman42_: Would have to understand the functions of the office better to make recommendation, but you may [very well]   be on the right path with samba - hard to say.
[05:21] <j0hn> how can I configure my screen saver via command line (shutting it off -- so it doesnt start after a timed period of time) ?
[05:22] <babo> DanC: I'm trying to update dns records for my domains ..
[05:22] <DanC> is namecheap a local application or a web service?
[05:22] <usr13> ideasman42_: nfs is for automatically mounting and accessing files / file systems on another machine
[05:23] <ideasman42_> usr13, Ah, prefer not the whole OS to be remote
[05:23] <Cyber_Stalker> heh
[05:23] <babo> DanC: web service
[05:23] <Cyber_Stalker> pidgin isnt in the repositorys... where can i get it from because there site offers source and i dont dig compiling packages
[05:24] <ss1> 
[05:24] <pike__> j0hn: im assuming the gnome screensaver setting is in one of the ~/.g directories but i have no idea where
[05:24] <usr13> ideasman42_: In that case  thin-client  setup is not what you're looking for.
[05:24] <CorkyCatcher007> so... does any one has an idea when the NPC-battle server are getting online?
[05:24] <DanC> babo, I use ZoneEdit.com ; I find their diagnostics are quite good.
[05:24] <ss1> 
[05:24] <pike__> j0hn: might ask in #gnome
[05:25] <babo> DanC: right thanks
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Cyber_Stalker: you can either compile it or find a .deb over net (i suggest compiling it) so you dont have to worry about installing otehr depends form .deb
[05:25] <j0hn> thanks :)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> sslashes: english please
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ss1: english please
[05:25] <Cyber_Stalker> gnomefreak: im busy getting the source atm
[05:25] <Cyber_Stalker> its not that fun tho
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Cyber_Stalker: not too bad
[05:26] <Cyber_Stalker> yea, has any one here got mxit working on linux>
[05:26] <Cyber_Stalker> its a java application that is ment for a cell phone but i cant seem to get anything working
[05:26] <jurgentje> Hi... this might be a pretty stupid question, but I bought an external hard drive... I set it up into 3 partitions. Every time I boot up, these three partitions appear as different names (disk - disk-1 & disk-2)... Is there a way to give those volumes a name? (like in DOS)
[05:27] <erUSUL> !cn | ss1
[05:27] <ubotu> ss1: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:28] <ss1> thank you ubotu
[05:28] <unimatrix9> jurgentje : right klick and properties?
[05:28] <ideasman42_> usr13, looks like ldap or nis might do what Im looking for
[05:28] <CorkyCatcher007> lol
[05:28] <ideasman42_> both do remote user authentication
[05:30] <jurgentje> ummm... in the properties, I can only select 3 qualities: Mounting point - filesystem and mount options ... would mount point be the name then?
[05:30] <orionr> Is there a release date for when 7.10 will be released (not beta)?
[05:30] <unimatrix9> jurgentje : yes you are right, use gparted for it..
[05:30] <aidehua> I've moved my Ubuntu rootFS, while live, from one partition to another.
[05:30] <aidehua> I no longer have a "varrun" FS mounted on /var/run :(
[05:31] <aidehua> How is "varrun" mounted?
[05:31] <aidehua> (And what is it?)
[05:31] <jurgentje> unimatrix9: and would that same volume label then be used when attaching the drive to a Windows system?
[05:31] <tripte1> is there anyway to downgrade from gutsy to something more stable?
[05:32] <ubu-max> heloo now repair for ubuntu ?
[05:32] <unimatrix9> i think so yes, you could also label them in windows afcause..
[05:32] <unimatrix9> :P
[05:32] <dag-eivind> Are there some Norwegian people here who can help me step by step to install Wireless Internet? :) I really need help :)
[05:33] <genii> aidehua: /var/run is where lockfiles for running apllications are created
[05:33] <dag-eivind> Norwegian, Swedish or Danish? :)
[05:33] <dag-eivind> Are there some Norwegian people here who can help me step by step to install Wireless Internet? :) I really need help :)
[05:33] <dag-eivind> Norwegian, Swedish or Danish? :)
[05:34] <dag-eivind> Are there some Norwegian people here who can help me step by step to install Wireless Internet? :) I really need help :)
[05:34] <dag-eivind> Norwegian, Swedish or Danish? :)
[05:34] <unimatrix9> jurgentje : gparted is no good for the job, its removes all data to set the label... i just treid it..
[05:34] <aidehua> genii: If I've deleted my "/var/run", how can I make a new one?
[05:34] <Cyber_Stalker> dag-eivind: we can read...
[05:34] <heguru> !repeat | dag-eivind
[05:34] <ubotu> dag-eivind: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:34] <jurgentje> unimatrix9: Yeps... just figured out the same thing :p
[05:34] <genii> dag-eivind: Have you tried the norweigan, swedish or danish ubuntu channels?
[05:34] <jurgentje> (luckily it was still an empty partition I tried it on)
[05:34] <dag-eivind> I don't know other channel then this one :P
[05:34] <apecat> will gutsy be distributed only on dvd?
[05:35] <genii> aidehua: If the directory exists, it will be populated next boot
[05:35] <aidehua> genii: even for things like /var/run/screen and /var/run/network?
[05:35] <dag-eivind> and sorry for repeating my question. :(
[05:35] <apecat> sry, that should have been in +1 :P
[05:35] <msimoens> #catalyst
[05:36] <genii> aidehua: Usually, yes.
[05:36] <hunz> hi
[05:36] <dag-eivind> But someone who know a Norwegian Linux/Channel ?
[05:36] <hunz> i have a queston
[05:37] <the9a3eed1> Question. I have an Asus G1S. It uses Nvidia 8600GT, but ubuntu fiesty doesn't work with that out of the box. It looks like the 'nv' driver for X11 isn't compatible with my card, so I have to use generic VESA drivers for now. I would now like to use the official drivers because I know that they work, however the restricted manager says that there aren't any drivers for my computer. What do I do next?
[05:37] <Fear_lesS> HI somebody can help me with a ubuntu internet problem
[05:37] <Fear_lesS> ?
[05:37] <aidehua> genii: how odd!  :D   I guess it's up to screen(1) and ifup/down to manage those directories themselves.
[05:37] <LjL> !downgrade | tripte1
[05:37] <ubotu> tripte1: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:37] <aidehua> Oh: isn't there a  screen init script?
[05:37] <aidehua> init script> yes, there is.
[05:37] <LjL> kRush: i've used dnsmasq, i recall it was pretty simple to set up
[05:37] <navandres> Hi
[05:37] <dag-eivind> Why are the no good guides for wireless Internet on Internet for noobs? :(
[05:38] <dag-eivind> there*
[05:38] <kRush> LjL, ?
[05:38] <usr13> dag-eivind: What do you need to do?  Just get a wireless router set up and sharing your Internet Connection?  Or what?
[05:38] <atarinox> this might not exist....but is there any sort of app which tracks rental expenses w/ roommates?
[05:38] <atarinox> besides a spreadsheet
[05:38] <navandres> i have a installation problem with my dell vostro 1500
[05:39] <aidehua> genii: This is my exact problem http://www.tienhuis.nl/archives/18
[05:39] <RaD|Tz> Is there a way to interrupt upgrading process on full download of packages and then reboot to install those packages?
[05:39] <aidehua> genii: "The root FS must have a /var/run and /var/lock directory".  Mine probably doesn't, and "/var" is an LVM partition.
[05:39] <LjL> kRush: i thought you asked about DNS cache
[05:39] <aidehua> genii: (Sorry about the spamming -- I hope you find that interesting :)
[05:39] <kRush> LjL, ah cross channel chatting, are we? thx for the tip
[05:39] <dag-eivind> usr13 -> Set up a wireless Internet-card.
[05:39] <Fear_lesS> I cant navigate !! when I try the system shows me the msg timeout...... only google sites are working
[05:39] <Fear_lesS> hete
[05:39] <Fear_lesS> here
[05:40] <genii> dag-eivind: Try #ubuntu-no or #ubuntu-dk
[05:40] <usr13> dag-eivind: What card is it?
[05:40] <usr13> dag-eivind: Cisco, Linksys, Netgear etc. etc.
[05:40] <trogdor> I have no device type battery, thermal, or ac_adapter according to acpi -V yet top displays hald-addon-acpi. How do I fix this problem?
[05:40] <navandres> what is #ubuntu-no and dk?
[05:41] <usr13> dag-eivind: If it is fully supported, you just install it and boot up and it should work.
[05:41] <genii> aidehua: You just need to create the dirs /var/run and /var/lock if the old /var is not mounted.
[05:41] <LjL> navandres: the norwegian and danish support channels respectively
[05:41] <usr13> dag-eivind: Have you installed it yet?
[05:41] <dag-eivind> usr13 -> D-Link DWL-G510
[05:41] <j0hn> how can I configure my screen saver via command line (shutting it off -- so it doesnt start after a timed period of time) ?
[05:41] <aidehua> genii: unmounting "/var" is 'hard'.
[05:41] <genii> navandres: Thjose are channels where he may find help in the languages he was asking about, norweigan, Swedish and Danish
[05:41] <clouder> where should I start to grok the command line?  I love it when someone asks a question and someone responds witha cryptic command line entry.  I want to be that guy
[05:42] <dag-eivind> It is supported by Ubuntu...
[05:42] <aidehua> Oh: now I can't boot in "single user mode", as Ubuntu systems don't set a password for "root" :(
[05:42] <navandres> spanish for example
[05:42] <erstazi> how does one remove a bridge network?
[05:42] <usr13> dag-eivind: I think you will need ndiswraper for that one
[05:42] <ashley1> FUCKING
[05:42] <ashley1> PRICKS
[05:42] <ashley1> HAHAHAHHA
[05:43] <ashley1> NO LIFE
[05:43] <ashley1> NONE OF YOU
[05:43] <ashley1> DICK HEADS
[05:43] <stdin> !ops | ashley1
[05:43] <ubotu> ashley1: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:43] <ashley1> GO TO HELL
[05:43] <ashley1> MOTHER FUCKER
[05:43] <ashley1> MOTHER FUCKING
[05:43] <ashley1> FUCKERS
[05:43] <dag-eivind> I have install ndiswrapper, but I don't know how too use it :/
[05:43] <ashley1> HAHAHAHAA
[05:43] <TU> i managed to bork up my Xorg.conf
[05:43] <TU> how do i reconfigure it abck to using just the fglrx driver
[05:43] <TU> like the defualt
[05:43] <erstazi> whats worse is ashley1 was an aol user
[05:44] <dag-eivind>  802.11g 	 DWL-G510 	 man:168c dev:001a 	 PCI 	 Atheros 	 Mad WiFi 	 green  	 A, C versions are not Atheros, B is; driver available at: http://madwifi.org
[05:44] <dag-eivind> This is my card...
[05:44] <j0hn> how can I configure my screen saver via command line (shutting it off -- so it doesnt start after a timed period of time) ?
[05:44] <tatters> Does anyone use PXE to install Ubuntu over a LAN know how I can set it up so that I can use local mirror so that I can use it without an internet connection?
[05:44] <TU> how can i reconfigure X with the original FGLRX driver?
[05:44] <dag-eivind> Have install madwifi too, but don't know how to use that too :/
[05:44] <TU> how can i reconfigure X with the original FGLRX config rather
[05:45] <TU> ls
[05:45] <genii> tatters: Yes, there is an app called apt-miror. run it on the machine you want to be the host. You will need about 32Gb free on it however, be warned.
[05:46] <tatters> genii: 32gb , is there no way to cut this down to the size of a cd?
[05:46] <dag-eivind> Okey.. New question... Someone know how to use MadWiFi? Please msg me :) I'm desperate :|
[05:46] <salamkenal> can i install the new ntlm_auth part of samba from the source in ubuntu 7/04
[05:46] <salamkenal> ?
[05:46] <genii> tatters: You want to mount the cd on the host machine then use PXE to boot the others and install from the cd?
[05:47] <tatters> genii: is it possible to mount a iso over PXE?
[05:47] <TU> exit
[05:47] <daaku> how do i turn off the display in a console (no X installed)?
[05:48] <genii> tatters: You mount the iso on the machoine which is the dhcp server/PXEboot host machine, not on the client mahines. If the mount point is in the tftpboot directory the clients can access by tftp. If in the /var/www dir, they can access by wget
[05:48] <j0hn> how can I configure my screen saver via command line (shutting it off -- so it doesnt start after a timed period of time) ?
[05:49] <Juhaz> as I already said: just turn it off. use the preferences applet or use gconftool if you really need command line
[05:49] <titun> genii: any solution for the ACPI problem :)
[05:49] <salamkenal> can i install the new ntlm_auth part of samba from the source in ubuntu 7.04?
[05:50] <j0hn> sorry, Juhaz how do I 'just turn it off' ?
[05:51] <Juhaz> you use either gnome-screensaver-preferences gui tool and uncheck the box, or you use gconf tools to set the key to false. for example with: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_activation_enabled false
[05:52] <j0hn> Juhaz: you mean the 'Activate screensaver when the computer is idle' ?
[05:52] <jodde> Hey guys.
[05:52] <Juhaz> quite so.
[05:52] <jodde> I have a couple questions.
[05:53] <brobostigon> go ahead
[05:53] <jodde> How do I find out what Debian, Synaptic and other versions I have?
[05:53] <trogdor> !system-tools-ba
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system-tools-ba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Quakky> !Multiple-instances
[05:53] <trogdor> !system-tools-backends
[05:54] <nbkr> jodde, on Debian systems: cat /etc/debian_version
[05:54] <j0hn> shoot, I guess the issue is dpms being set
[05:54] <titun> genii: sorry if i am asking too much but i am very hopeful if u can help me
[05:54] <genii> back
[05:54] <trogdor> !Multiple-Quakky
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multiple-quakky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <nbkr> jodde, on Ubuntu: cat /etc/issue.net
[05:54] <dag-eivind_> #ubuntu-no
[05:55] <Quakky> Quick Question guys, Can I Run multiple instances of Linux on 1 machine?
[05:55] <tatters> genii: so far I used DRBL ,   ultimate boot deployment appliance and the ubuntu  netinstall howto , but yet to come across how to mount an .iso they all seem to install minimum packages then grab the rest of the internet
[05:55] <nbkr> jodde, or have a look on the "about ubuntu" - page.
[05:55] <fluffles> does Ubuntu 7.10-beta have some sort of built-in VNC server like x11vnc?
[05:55] <trogdor> !system-tools-backends
[05:55] <genii> titun: Well, after some research it looks like this machine is too new yet to know what specifically it may need. But i would suggest to perhaps try pci=routeirq
[05:55] <trogdor> that's odd..
[05:55] <fluffles> like the 'remote desktop' functionality of Windows
[05:55] <LjL> !info system-tools-backends | trogdor
[05:55] <ubotu> trogdor: system-tools-backends: System Tools to manage computer configuration -- scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 163 kB, installed size 780 kB
[05:55] <nbkr> fluffles, 7.04 already has this. Gnome brings vino, and KDE krfb
[05:55] <fluffles> nbkr: vino, i see, thanks will search for it!
[05:56] <jodde> Oh.
[05:56] <genii> titun: that along with the acpi enabled
[05:56] <jodde> Debian != Ubuntu, eh?
[05:56] <titun> genii: yes the lenovo 3000 series is quite new, i will try pci=routeirq, is this to be appended ?
[05:56] <nbkr> jodde, Ubuntu is based on debian. But it is not the same.
[05:56] <jodde> Alright.
[05:56] <titun> genii: ok, got it
[05:56] <trogdor> LjL: in other words "it" manages "stuff"?
[05:56] <genii> titun: Yes, appended just past where you may have acpi=off or acpi=on or so
[05:57] <LinuxGen> Hi! Using Ubuntu with Norwegian menu and suport. But can't find out how to get a Norwegian spellchecker installed in Evolution. Can anybody give me a clue where to look?
[05:57] <orionr> Does anyone know when 7.10 is going to released?
[05:57] <titun> genii: yes, will revert back here after checking
[05:57] <jodde> Also, I have some weird problems:  Limewire hangs whenever I try to close it or launch a file, and Frostwire won't even start.
[05:57] <brobostigon> its release this month
[05:57] <orionr> brobostigon: any date?
[05:57] <jodde> That and I keep getting NAT errors in some programs despite the fact that my router is DMZ.
[05:57] <brobostigon> i dont know
[05:57] <orionr> brobostigon: do you think it will be near the end of the month?
[05:58] <brobostigon> probebly
[05:58] <LjL> trogdor, i've no idea, i just gave you the factoid you were looking for :)
[05:58] <orionr> i dont want beta though
[05:58] <trogdor> LjL: I was able to find it on synaptic... that means its deleted
[05:58] <tatters> genii: are you saying it is possible to mount any iso over PXE so that the client machine can install an OS or run a live CD? if so do you have any link which gives procedure?
[05:58] <Quakky> Guys im just wondering..can you run multiple instances of Linux on 1 machine?
[05:58] <jodde> And my WINE won't start either.
[05:58] <genii> tatters: i used the PXE netboot install method with apt-mirror on the host for a complete repo mirror. but you don't need to have a complete mirror of the 32Gb. If you know what packages are needed you can put them into the /var/www directory of the host and in a preseed file for the PXE put the apt setup as the IP/name of that host
[05:59] <Exteris> Quakky, yes
[05:59] <genii> tatters: Yes, you can run the iso casper install as the netboot image etc etc
[05:59] <Quakky> can u guide me to a link on how to do that?
[05:59] <genii> tatters: 1 minute i'll find you some link
[05:59] <Quakky> cuz i need it for work
[05:59] <Quakky> :)
[05:59] <Quakky> thanks in advance :D
[06:00] <Cyber_Stalker> erUSUL: could you give me that last command one more time?
[06:00] <genii> tatters: This is what I used as a starting point: wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[06:00] <genii> tatters: This is what I used as a starting point: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[06:00] <genii> Need caffeine, forgot the http://    part :)  )
[06:01] <tatters> genii: thnx
[06:01] <brobostigon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[06:01] <spiderpig> .
[06:01] <genii> tatters: np
[06:01] <Nalleman> Well guys and girls. I just upgraded to gusty and now i got a terrible lag (about 2 fps) someone know what might be wrong?
[06:01] <Pici> Nalleman: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:01] <Cyber_Stalker> hmm
[06:01] <erUSUL> Cyber_Stalker: find /home/cyber/ -name '*.jp*g' -print0 | xargs -0 -i mv {}  /home/cyber/recovered/    <<<
[06:01] <Cyber_Stalker> does any one have any suggestions for improving perfomance
[06:02] <Cyber_Stalker> thanks erUSUL just wanna make a note about that
[06:02] <John_Priest> quick question, someone accidently unplugging my comp midway tho an distro upgrade...
[06:03] <brobostigon> thats stupid
[06:03] <John_Priest> and everything seems to still work,/// anything thing i should do?
[06:03] <jodde> John_Priest,  did it crash Synaptic?
[06:03] <John_Priest> synaptic seems to just keep going where it left off
[06:03] <deadlock> Hello everyone. I've got a ubuntu server setup as a file server. On my XP OS in virtual box. I can see 5 of my shares on my server, ON my normal linux OS, I can't see the 5th share. Is there a way to check as to why I can't see all my shared folders in linux.
[06:04] <Exteris> Quakky, go to #quakky
[06:04] <jodde> What's wrong with that then?
[06:04] <titun> genii: pci=routeirq did not help :( no audio
[06:04] <j0hn> now my real question: I am wanting to disable dpms from starting up on a monitor (its displaying stats) where the screen shuts off, how can I do so ?
[06:06] <jodde> Hi guys.
[06:06] <babo> so for flowerhour.biz - I can't list ns1.flowerhour.biz as a NS nor can I list any of the other domains on that server ... the web interface automatically fills out the table as both the xname.org nameservers which I don't want to have for both my primary and secondary ...
[06:06] <jodde> I have some strange problems that I need help solving.
[06:06] <fasol> hello, any ideaa ? http://pastebin.ca/721832 what's wrong?
[06:06] <genii> titun: i have no other immediate suggestions, other than the Realtek hda audio device onboard seems to be causing issues for a few of these models. Perhaps there are some settings which can be made for this device, but offhand i do not know what.
[06:07] <titun> genii: ok , thanks a lot for trying to help anyway :)
[06:07] <Neuling> Please can anybody help me it seems that ubuntu recognizes my soundcard but i get no sound what should i do i am using sis si7012 as soundcard
[06:08] <jodde> I can't seem to start Frostwire, and when I try to use Limewire, it hangs when the main window loses focus.
[06:08] <j0hn> I am wanting to disable dpms from starting up on a monitor (its displaying stats) where the screen shuts off, how can I do so ?
[06:09] <adamof> hello, ppl
[06:09] <jodde> Are your drivers recent, Neuling?
[06:09] <genii> j0hn: Comment out the DPMS line for that monitor in the xorg.conf file
[06:09] <jodde> Hi adamof
[06:09] <adamof> i would like to ask, how to recover a running application
[06:09] <DoYouKnow> hello
[06:09] <Lars_G> Quick question, what is the default directory ubuntuers use to store ssl certs for use by apache2? I'm thinking on using /etc/apache2/ssl but if there's a well established de-facto....
[06:09] <adamof> cuz i started skype and then minimized it
[06:09] <DoYouKnow> What could cause a file not found error when trying to execute "skype"?
[06:10] <Neuling> jodde well i think my computer recognizes my souncard yes
[06:10] <adamof> i can see it`s running, but i can`t seem to restore it
[06:10] <DoYouKnow> I have changed its permissions so that all users can execute and read it
[06:10] <jodde> You think or you know?
[06:10] <genii> adamof: Hit alt-tab a time or 2
[06:10] <jodde> Have you tried it against another OS?
[06:10] <Neuling> jodde i think
[06:10] <jodde> Does it show up in Ubuntu's hardware manager?
[06:10] <Neuling> yes jodde on windows my soundcard is working
[06:10] <adamof> genii it doesnt show there
[06:11] <Fear_lesS> anybody can explain to mne why my ubuntu navegate only in google pages?
[06:11] <Fear_lesS> because this i can install up on my computer :(
[06:11] <Neuling> what you mean Fear_less
[06:12] <jodde> And do your speakers/headphones work?
[06:12] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i get to my trash?
[06:12] <Neuling> yes jodde i used windows before an they have been working on it
[06:12] <jodde> okay.
[06:12] <kailashamrit> what do i need to set up to see  another ubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu laptop via the LAN network (i can see only two other vista desktops)?
[06:12] <Fear_lesS> i'm trying to install ubuntu here but when I try to install the system get stuck in 82 % because my conection are not working correclty
[06:12] <jodde> Do you have a website for the company?
[06:13] <Fear_lesS> correctly
[06:13] <derrrface> hello, new to ubuntu. general question: is there a way to see my network settings.... everything is working fine (LAN connection) it just seems the loading of web pages and images (both in firefox & thunderbird) take much longer than windows.... (I use firefox/thunderbird in windows as well)...
[06:13] <Ongaku> hmm how do you make your own login window screens for this?
[06:13] <Neuling> no
[06:13] <Fear_lesS> Neuling i'm trying to install ubuntu here but when I try to install the system get stuck in 82 % because my conection are not working correclty
[06:13] <Pici> derrrface: ifconfig will return your network settings.  Sometimes ipv6 support needs to be disabled to speed things up.
[06:13] <Pici> !ipv6 | derrrface
[06:13] <ubotu> derrrface: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:14] <genii> adamof: I think I'd likely kill it and start it again
[06:14] <Cyber_Stalker> LOL how to i get to my trash... i removed the stupid icon from the bottom bar and now i have no idea how to get there to remove trash
[06:14] <derrrface> thank you, will try this...
[06:14] <jodde> Neuling, okay..  Find the box it came in, there should be an address on there to get technical support.
[06:14] <trogdor> how do I disable avahi-daemon?
[06:14] <Ongaku> add it back to the panel cyber
[06:14] <klumpe> i own a ati radeon 9600, also i did config my xorg.conf by setting the g driver to radeon do i have to install the newest version of the radeon driver to gain 100% performance ? pls help
[06:14] <jodde> Download the driver versions consistent with Ubuntu and whatever your version number is.
[06:15] <jodde> If you can find no recent drivers, yell at the company for awhile.
[06:15] <Neuling> jodde where do i find this drivers for ubuntu?
[06:15] <kailashamrit> what do i need to set up to see  another ubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu laptop via the LAN network (i can see only two other vista desktops)?
[06:15] <jodde> What's your soundcard again?
[06:15] <dotjay> I have ubuntu 6.06LTS and right now i am planing to upgrade it to 7.04 is there anyway i can upgrade without effecting my current version of ubunut?
[06:15] <genii> trogdor: chmod -x /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon
[06:15] <Neuling> ok jodde :)
[06:15] <Neuling> sis si7012
[06:16] <jodde> Okay.
[06:16] <trogdor> genii: nice solution, but already uninstalled it
[06:16] <ZenMaster> Hi guys.
[06:16] <jodde> That's the model I take it.
[06:16] <Neuling> or should i buy a new soundcard?
[06:16] <jodde> What's the make?
[06:16] <klumpe> hello
[06:16] <klumpe> may anybody help me
[06:16] <klumpe> pls
[06:16] <salamkenal> how to remove samba in ubuntu???
[06:16] <Neuling> no idea sorry i am really not an expert lol
[06:17] <Scott114> apt-get --purge -remove samba ...
[06:17] <Puppy_> When 7.10 first comes out the download will be REALLY slow, right? Would it be faster the first day/s to download 7.10 through bit-torrent, or it just as slow?
[06:17] <Puppy_> *is it
[06:17] <trogdor> Puppy_: yeah torrents are super fast with lot of users downloading
[06:17] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[06:17] <trogdor> Puppy_: just be downloading the 18th come around
[06:17] <Cyber_Stalker> please any one?
[06:17] <brobostigon> bittorrent could be faster, because more people are downloading.
[06:18] <Cyber_Stalker> im lost with out my trash can
[06:18] <jodde> Sorry, one more time with the model?  X-Chat didn't repaint properly.
[06:18] <jodde> A lot of programs do that for some reason.
[06:18] <anthony> Bittorrent will _definitely_ be the preferred method for Gutsy download on release day.  *Please* use it if possible.
[06:18] <Puppy_> trogdor: so do it through bittorrent on the 18th and a couple of days after?
[06:18] <Neuling> Cyber_stalker you deleted the ican but not the trash
[06:18] <trogdor> Puppy_: yeah
[06:18] <Cyber_Stalker> yea the icon
[06:18] <Cyber_Stalker> but now how do i get it back
[06:18] <genii> Cyber_Stalker: Someone recommended you just put the trashcan back, why don't you do that?
[06:18] <Neuling> sis si7012
[06:18] <Puppy_> thanks everyone!
[06:18] <klumpe> to access full speed do i have to install the newest radeon driver or is it okay to leave the radeon driver outdated
[06:18] <klumpe> ?
[06:19] <Neuling> intel sis7012
[06:19] <Neuling> intel sis si7012
[06:19] <kailashamrit> what should i do up to see another ubuntu-desktop from my ubuntu laptop via the LAN network (i can see only two other vista desktops)?
[06:19] <dotjay> i have seen few documentations on how to upgrade but i aint getting the right command before i start of with the installation
[06:19] <_Uli_> who can programm a new desklet?
[06:19] <jodde> Here, try this:
[06:19] <Cyber_Stalker> so that i can empty it
[06:19] <Cyber_Stalker> genii: how tho? there arnt any trash icons to drag to the bar
[06:19] <jodde> www.linuxforums.org/.../15795-fc2-sound-card-sis-si7012-detect-but-donot-play-sound.html
[06:19] <trogdor> kailashamrit: what you mean like ssh or vnc?
[06:19] <Neuling> thanks jodde will have a look
[06:20] <Cyber_Stalker> !forums
[06:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[06:20] <kailashamrit> trogdor: i don't understand
[06:20] <ZenMaster> Just a question, and I hope it is the right place... I am new to Ubuntu and I really want to try it, is this the right place to ask stupid questions? :)
[06:20] <Neuling> this page doesnt seem to exist anymore jodde :(
[06:20] <dotjay> Cyber_Stalker: right click-> on any panel or where you want your trash
[06:20] <klumpe> WINDOWS ROXXX ! linux q: to access full speed do i have to install the newest radeon driver or is it okay to leave the radeon driver outdated ?
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> anyone know why ps c -u `whoami` is truncating the command names?
[06:20] <genii> Cyber_Stalker: I am on KDE and not Gnome right now, but this works here: right-click on bar, go: Add Applet   then choose the trach one
[06:20] <kaje> I'm trying to install a modem and the instructions are telling me to look at /proc/pci. But, that doesn't exist, where would I find the current PCI resources being used in ubuntu?
[06:21] <trogdor> kailashamrit: what are you trying to do?
[06:21] <kevin____> set dcc_auto_chat 1
[06:21] <Neuling> Zenmaster there are never stupid questions
[06:21] <brobostigon> lspci
[06:21] <drewzf> Hi :)
[06:21] <jodde> Anyone here use Limewire?
[06:21] <kaje> lspci doesn't give me the details I need...
[06:21] <kailashamrit> trogdor: i want to see folders and files on another compi
[06:21] <Neuling> no jodde using amule working perfect
[06:21] <dotjay> hey anyone i need to know how to upgrade my ubuntu
[06:21] <jodde> My amule won't connect to anything.
[06:21] <kaje> nm, just had to do lspci -v
[06:22] <klumpe> neuling bist du deutscher ?
[06:22] <LjL> dotjay: from what to what?
[06:22] <Megaqwerty> dotjay: upgrade to Gutsy?
[06:22] <trogdor> kailashamrit: ah you need to setup the samba server then
[06:22] <ZenMaster> @Neuling well, you'll see :)
[06:22] <LjL> !de | klumpe
[06:22] <ubotu> klumpe: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:22] <Neuling> klumpe nein aber kann deutsch
[06:22] <klumpe> thx :D
[06:22] <jodde> I keep getting connection issues.
[06:22] <kailashamrit> trogdor: samba is for windows pcs?
[06:22] <jodde> Does Ubuntu have a built in firewall?
[06:22] <Megaqwerty> jodde: yes
[06:22] <LjL> !firewall > jodde    (jodde, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:22] <drewzf> dotjay: Upgrade to the next distribution? Use update-manager -c, if you want Gutsy youse update-manager -c -d
[06:22] <genii> dotjay: You asked about going from Dapper to Feisty without affecting your current install
[06:22] <jodde> Oh.
[06:22] <trogdor> kailashamrit: samba is file sharing for linux, it is compatible with windows pcs
[06:22] <usr13> jodde: Ubuntu uses firestarter
[06:23] <trogdor> kailashamrit: its compatible with most everything actually might want to read up on it
[06:23] <dotjay> genii :yeah
[06:23] <Neuling> yes jodde would like to know that too using firestarter right now
[06:23] <LjL> Ubuntu doesn't "use" firestarter...
[06:23] <usr13> But only if you choose to.
[06:23] <dotjay> actually 7.10 would go
[06:23] <trogdor> LjL: its in the repository
[06:23] <kailashamrit> trogdor: under applications add/remove...?
[06:23] <Megaqwerty> dotjay: gksudo update-manager -c -d
[06:23] <trogdor> kailashamrit: use synaptic not the add/remove
[06:23] <genii> dotjay: You would just be better off to install Feisty since the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy is what you would need to do fisrt, then from there to Feisty
[06:23] <LjL> trogdor: well yes, so are many other similar iptables frontends
[06:24] <LjL> trogdor: it's not even in Main
[06:24] <kailashamrit> trogdor:ok,i will try. thanx
[06:24] <jodde> DOkay, so how do I disable it?
[06:24] <Megaqwerty> anyone know why ps c -u `whoami` is truncating the command names?
[06:24] <aguitel> !gutsy
[06:24] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <trogdor> kailashamrit no prob
[06:24] <Neuling> Please can anybody help me it seems that ubuntu recognizes my soundcard but i get no sound what should i do i am using sis si7012 as soundcard
[06:24] <jodde> I don't do a lot of online shopping, and it's nigh impossible to get a virus or spyware in Linux.
[06:24] <genii> dotjay: If you want to save your personal settings for programs etc, copy everything in the /home/username directory out someplace
[06:24] <usr13> jodde:I'm wrong, Ubuttu does not install a firewall by default.
[06:24] <Neuling> jodde really seldom viruses for linux
[06:24] <dotjay> genii : i have both the CDs
[06:25] <usr13> I think...
[06:25] <jodde> The website didn't help at all Neuling?
[06:25] <dotjay> 7.04 and 7.10
[06:25] <Neuling> jodde no it doesnt exist anymore
[06:25] <ZenMaster> If Gutsy Gibbon we dealing with - is it worth it to wait or just install 7.04 and upgrade ( there is an automatic upgrade is there? )?
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> jodde: there is a firewall by default.
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> jodde: it's called iptables
[06:25] <usr13> Neuling: Seldom.... More like never.
[06:25] <jodde> So how do I disable it, Megaqwerty?
[06:25] <nas> Question: Im running a java program (its a game) in windows when you minimize, it goes to your task bar, When i minimize it using ubuntu it disappears, but is still running. Any clue how to bring it back up?
[06:25] <usr13> Megaqwerty: iptables is not a firewall.
[06:25] <Neuling> usrl3 there are some or not?
[06:25] <jodde> Would it be causing my NAT errors?
[06:25] <Megaqwerty> usr13: so what is it?
[06:26] <bingodeville> nas: have you tried Alt+Tab?
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> usr13: a firewall blocks traffic on ports on a computer. That's what iptables does.
[06:26] <Neuling> and spyware i think doesnt exist on linux
[06:26] <nas> Yes
[06:26] <kaje> what command can I use to find what IRQ's and mem addresses a PCI card is using? lspci isn't doing it...
[06:26] <nas> It does not show up there
[06:26] <genii> dotjay: If you have enough room on your had, perhaps install a fresh Feisty on it's own partition and leave the dapper as it is. then you can copy over later whatever /home data you wanted if yoiu decide to make Feisty the main one now instead
[06:26] <nas> but I know it is runnign because when I log on my windows machine it still shows the user logged in
[06:26] <usr13> Megaqwerty: Yes, you can use iptables to block purts, (among many other tasks).
[06:27] <genii> *had= hard drive. Lag is causing skipped letters here  :(
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> jodde: I'd use a frontend like firestarter to configure iptables.
[06:27] <bingodeville> nas: i'm not sure, maybe someone else has an idea
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> usr13: so I am correct that it's a firewall by your logic
[06:27] <jodde> firestarter does not show up in my add/remove list.
[06:27] <nas> okay, thank you.
[06:27] <genii> kaje: lspci has ea verbose option
[06:27] <drewzf> why was aptitude upgrade deprecated?
[06:27] <Megaqwerty> jodde: it's in there...hold on haven't used Add/Remove in a long time
[06:28] <dotjay> got it you mean all i have to do is just take the backups of tarbz and format usr or what ever right?
[06:28] <usr13> Megaqwerty: While it's tru that most firewall applications primarily use iptables to block ports and services, but iptables is not a firewall.
[06:28] <Neuling> yes Megaqwerty i did buti need each time to start firestarter
[06:28] <genii> kaje: eg:   lspci -v   or -vv   or even -vvv gives more more and more info
[06:28] <jodde> Neuling, try going to www.intel.com.  They probably have the drivers you need for Linux.
[06:28] <ChuckFu> how do I install modules in apache from the modules available to the modules enabled
[06:28] <dotjay> but hey what abt the / home is in the / right
[06:28] <Neuling> ok jodde trying this thnx
[06:28] <jodde> ANTs doesn't work either.
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> jodde: under "Show" Choose "All available applications"
[06:28] <usr13> jodde: I corrected myself.  Firestarter is not installed by default. (At least not anymore).
[06:28] <bmt2> can anyone tell me a good bittorrent client that i can "apt-get" ?
[06:29] <kaje> genii: yeah, the output looks different than I was expecting... the first IO mem address says d800 and I was expecting something like 0x0800
[06:29] <anthony> ChuckFu: a2modenable, iirc
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> Neuling: just add it to your session.
[06:29] <usr13>  jodde What are you not able to access?
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> Neuling: System>Preferences>Sessions
[06:29] <anthony> bmt2: I use rtorrent, which is a fairly minimal cli one.
[06:29] <ChuckFu> does that mean goto that hell room
[06:29] <Fear_lesS> man disable de ipv6 will not work because i'm using the live cd and to do this I have to restart de computer
[06:29] <usr13> jodde: or what service are you not able to access?
[06:29] <ChuckFu> chat
[06:29] <bmt2> anthony: thanks..
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> anyone know why ps c -u `whoami` is truncating the command names?
[06:29] <Neuling> thnx Megaqwerty
[06:29] <Megaqwerty> Neuling: you're welcome
[06:30] <jodde> P2P.
[06:30] <bmt2> anthony: rtorrent is easy to use ?
[06:30] <dotjay> genii:you there?
[06:30] <jodde> Nothing P2P seems to work, and all my torrent downloads are SLOOWW.
[06:30] <usr13> jodde: what is your ISP?  (Could be that your ISP is blocking it.)
[06:30] <genii> dotjay: Yes, altho a bit spread thin :)
[06:30] <jodde> My ISP is Rogers.
[06:30] <nas> Im running a java program (its a game) in windows when you minimize, it goes to your task bar, When i minimize it using ubuntu it disappears, but is still running. Any clue how to bring it back up?
[06:30] <usr13> You can find out using tcpdump
[06:30] <jodde> They don't block it as far as I know.
[06:31] <anthony> bmt2: Depends what your usage type is.  Normally what I'm doing is just looking to download and seed a bunch of Ubuntu ISOs, so I have a directory of files and do 'rtorrent *.torrent'.  For more complicated things I imagine it would start to break down eventually.
[06:31] <dotjay> genii:busy with somthin ?
[06:31] <jodde> Besides, the problems I get are with ports.
[06:31] <usr13> run tcpdump in a terminal, try to do your p2p thing  and then stop tcpdump and look to see if there were packets dropped or not.
[06:31] <jodde> I can't seem to access aMule for instance.
[06:31] <jodde> It won't connect to anything.
[06:31] <Megaqwerty> jodde: btw, for your reference: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[06:31] <usr13> Many ISPs block p2p stuff nowdays.
[06:32] <kailashamrit> Samba software suite is ... allowing you to serve
[06:32] <kailashamrit> files and printers to Windows, NT, OS/2 and DOS clients. and what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan?
[06:32] <genii> dotjay: I am helping some others at same time as well (trying). Also at work. I missed your comment about zipping up /home since my nick was not in the line. but yes, that is the idea
[06:32] <usr13> Because p2p traffic is mostly illegal anyway.
[06:32] <Nalleman> what was the support channel for gutsy again...
[06:32] <Megaqwerty> Nalleman: #ubuntu+1
[06:32] <Nalleman> Megaqwerty, thanks
[06:33] <jodde> That's draconic, usr13.
[06:33] <kailashamrit> Samba software suite is ... allowing you to serve files and printers to Windows, NT, OS/2 and DOS clients. and what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan?
[06:33] <Cyber_Stalker> any one here do any java development on linux?>
[06:33] <dotjay> genii: but you think i can format '/" without formating /home which is in the root?
[06:33] <jodde> What right do they have to interfere with a customer's use?
[06:33] <kidbuntu> !nvu
[06:33] <ubotu> kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[06:34] <alyx> hey guys
[06:34] <usr13> jodde: See: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connection-problems/33712-isps-known-block-filter-p2p-specifically-limewire.html
[06:34] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone here help me with ps? I'm using ps c -u `whoami` but it truncates the application names.
[06:34] <kailashamrit> Samba software suite is ... allowing you to serve files and printers to Windows, NT, OS/2 and DOS clients. and what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan?
[06:34] <erstazi> how do you remove a network  bridge
[06:34] <Fear_lesS> anybody can help me with my internet issue
[06:34] <usr13> Megaqwerty: ps aux
[06:34] <Cyber_Stalker> !java
[06:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:34] <ZenMaster> Guys, is it worth to wait for 7.1 or is it possible to install 7.04 and upgrade later? Or will I have to install it from scratch?
[06:34] <cosmodad> what are Ubuntu guys gonna do as to naming when "Zealous Zebra" or similar is out?
[06:35] <Megaqwerty> usr13: the problem with ps aux is it displays the entire command path and parameters
[06:35] <usr13> ps x
[06:35] <erstazi> ZenMaster: you can install 7.04 now and upgrade to 7.10  on release
[06:35] <DanC> Zeelot, do you mean 7.10? upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 is pretty straightforward. I did it last week.
[06:35] <genii> dotjay: If your hd is setup that all dirs are off of it and no separate partitions for /home /var   etc then formatting / will format these too, yes.
[06:36] <dotjay> so
[06:36] <Megaqwerty> usr13: run ps c -u `whoami`
[06:36] <Megaqwerty> usr13: you'll see what I mean
[06:36] <dotjay> genii: now what ? ow do you think i can back  up
[06:36] <benzs_s> does upgrading to gutsy mean i have to change the kernel? all kernels after 20-15 make my sound card go boom
[06:36] <Fear_lesS> why only google pages are working here pls help
[06:36] <alyx> anyone use vmware?
[06:36] <genii> dotjay: as I said earlier. If you have enough HD space. Resize the drive to allow a separate install of Feisty (Or Gutsy) then have a separate boot for that and your original
[06:36] <kailashamrit> Samba software suite is ... allowing you to serve files and printers to Windows, NT, OS/2 and DOS clients. and what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan?
[06:37] <ali110> i want to install a vertual machine on ubuntu to run windows xp on it , iknow there are VMware, xen qemu , which one works best ??
[06:37] <dotjay> thanq genii i will see what iam gonna do
[06:37] <jodde> Damn.
[06:37] <jodde> I still can't use aMule.
[06:37] <jodde> Won't connect.
[06:37] <elliotjhug> benzs_s: The kernel will be upgraded I think. You sure it hasn't been fixed in the latest kernels?
[06:37] <Neuling> jodde you must click on a server to connect
[06:37] <alyx> alill0 i use vmware  workstation 6 and thus far have no complaints i have not used any of the others though
[06:37] <usr13> Megaqwerty: Yea I see
[06:37] <benzs_s> elliotjhug: positive :<
[06:37] <dotjay> genii:actually i don wanna say this but i was looking for an option like upgrade which we generally get in windows
[06:37] <Neuling> jodde first choose some servers
[06:37] <DanC> "dead Nvu project?! Nvu is dead?
[06:38] <benzs_s> it's literally just a problem with teamspeak... on newer kernels teamspeak won't work at all (even with aoss) but on 20-15 it's fine and dandy
[06:38] <Megaqwerty> DanC: as far as I can tell...yeah. Hasn't seen a new version in a long time.
[06:38] <genii> dotjay: From Dapper to Edgy there was no easy upgrade way. Since Edy now there is upgrade-manager
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Teamspeak seems to be one of those cool programs.. that could really use a bit of work.... :(
[06:38] <genii> *Edgy
[06:38] <Megaqwerty> DanC: which is the reason for the existence of Kompozer.
[06:39] <rabbitnightmare> ok i was wondering how to get ndiswrapper i have no internet connection I need common utils and ndisgtk for feisty fawn
[06:39] <Megaqwerty> rabbitnightmare: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:39] <rabbitnightmare> ok ty
[06:39] <DanC> last post to http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?category/Nvu is in Feb; is that a long time?
[06:39] <Fear_lesS> anybody can explain to me why i can only navegate on google pages?
[06:39] <Megaqwerty> rabbitnightmare: you're welcome
[06:39] <salamkenal> how to check samba version
[06:39] <jodde> It doesn't give me any servers.
[06:39] <rabiddachshund> I broke xorg...again. :(
[06:39] <Megaqwerty> Fear_lesS: sounds like a problem with your network
[06:40] <jodde> I have no servers to choose from.
[06:40] <Fear_lesS> [Megaqwerty] : yes any site are working only google pages
[06:40] <rabiddachshund> how would I mount a usb drive from a command line?
[06:40] <ali110> i want to install a vertual machine on ubuntu to run windows xp on it , iknow there are VMware, xen qemu , which one works best and easy to use for a newbie ??
[06:40] <Neuling> load them first jodde
[06:40] <salamkenal> how to check the samba version in ubuntu???
[06:40] <genii> dotjay:More info here for you www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:40] <Dr_willis> ali110,  dont forget virtualbox, I use 'vmware-server' myself.
[06:40] <genii> Megaqwerty: I would suspect DNS
[06:40] <Megaqwerty> salamkenal: aptitude show samba | grep Version
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !info samba
[06:40] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[06:41] <jodde> How do I load them Neuling ?
[06:41] <kailashamrit> Samba software suite is ... allowing you to serve files and printers to Windows, NT, OS/2 and DOS clients. and what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan?
[06:41] <chinux> aliill0 install virtualbox
[06:41] <Megaqwerty> genii: not my problem. it's Fear_lesS 's problem
[06:41] <chinux> very good
[06:41] <Megaqwerty> ;)
[06:41] <chinux> for newbies
[06:41] <ali110> dr_willis : but vmware is not free i want a free tool
[06:41] <usr13> salamkenal: t-cache --installed showpkg samba
[06:41] <ali110> chinux : thanks i will search for it
[06:42] <Neuling> jodde click on servers and you see a website with a list of servers just press enter and they will get loaded
[06:42] <chinux> download it from thje oficial website
[06:42] <chinux> or
[06:42] <Dr_willis> ali110,  vmware server is 'free' - you just go to their web site and give themn an email address and they give you a serial #.. its not GPL free.. but its $$$ Free
[06:42] <chinux> from Automatix
[06:42] <Megaqwerty> chinux: yeah. Download from the offical site
[06:42] <Pici> !automatix | chinux
[06:42] <ubotu> chinux: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:42] <Fear_lesS> Megaqwerty it are happenig only in this machine because I try in another computer and work good
[06:43] <kailashamrit> what do i need to see folders of another ubuntu-desktop via lan? really samba?
[06:43] <genii> ali110: you don't have to pay $ for vmware
[06:43] <Fear_lesS> genii it are happenig only in this machine because I try in another computer and work good
[06:43] <dgjones> kailashamrit, sounds like you might need to have a look at NFS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[06:43] <Neuling> Please can anybody help me it seems that ubuntu recognizes my soundcard but i get no sound what should i do i am using sis si7012 as soundcard
[06:43] <chinux> ok
[06:43] <chinux> thanx!!!
[06:44] <varun> hi
[06:44] <[nrx] > !vnc
[06:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:44] <Fear_lesS> genii can you help me?
[06:44] <jodde> Okay, aMule works now I guess.
[06:44] <genii> Fear_lesS: It would seem to be it can only find google. If this machine is set for static IP, make sure entries have correct DNS servers. If set for dhcp from router/other computer make sure DNS server info is being sent fromt here
[06:45] <jodde> I'm just getting the standard P2P errors now.
[06:45] <jodde> Not connecting to hosts.
[06:45] <genii> Fear_lesS: My lag right now is horrible. Please have patience for my replies
[06:45] <Megaqwerty> Fear_lesS: try adding "nameserver 208.67.222.222" to /etc/resolv.conf
[06:45] <Neuling> jodde you need to forward ports
[06:45] <jodde> Neuling, my ports are all open on my router end.
[06:46] <tim167> anyone know an authentic looking version of pac-man i can run on ubuntu ?
[06:46] <kailashamrit> dgjones: thanx. is there a graphical menu as i am not fit the terminal commands....?
[06:46] <Fear_lesS> genii i'm using a dlik 524 to route my connections but all computers here are working good with windows
[06:46] <jodde> tim167,  it's in the repository.
[06:46] <darkdrag0n> i need to find out if it is possible to manually set irq's in Feisty
[06:46] <Neuling> jodde put client tcp port on 4661
[06:46] <genii> Fear_lesS: The windows computers may be using PPPOE software from ISP
[06:46] <buddha> i got a sound problem it says  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio not sound blaster live
[06:46] <kaje> can someone recommend a good fax utility for ubuntu?
[06:47] <anthony> kaje: gfax is one option
[06:47] <buddha> yea
[06:47] <genii> kaje: Hylafax
[06:47] <kaje> thanks!
[06:47] <buddha> when i type lspci
[06:47] <dgjones> kailashamrit, i've not seen a graphical menu for setting up nfs, i only used the terminal commands
[06:47] <Fear_lesS> genii no i'm using virtua here it not use pppoe
[06:47] <Neuling> ande forward ports on your router to 4661
[06:47] <tim167> jodde: ah cool :)
[06:48] <genii> Fear_lesS: So DHCP from Dlink to LA?N
[06:48] <jodde> Ughh.  Why the hell am I still firewalled?
[06:48] <kailashamrit> dgjones, ok i will try my best
[06:48] <Fear_lesS> yes
[06:48] <Neuling> yes jodde could be
[06:48] <LMZ> hello to all!
[06:48] <darkdrag0n> firewalled in what?
[06:48] <jodde> I don't know.\
[06:48] <jodde> aMule.
[06:49] <dgjones> kailashamrit, good luck, it is fairly easy, I was lucky in that I've got machines with fixed ip addresses which seemed the easiest way of doing the sharing
[06:49] <jodde> Says I'm behind a firewall.
[06:49] <jodde> But this computer is DMZ.
[06:49] <Fear_lesS> genii yes I think
[06:49] <kailashamrit> dgjones, be4 i was told samba is the tool. is this useful?
[06:49] <jodde> I shouldn't need to forward any ports.
[06:49] <jodde> And in Firestarter, I can't add rules.
[06:49] <Neuling> jodde change it on firestarter
[06:49] <Neuling> jodde sure you an
[06:49] <Neuling> can
[06:49] <genii> Fear_lesS: I would recommend to get into DLink admin pages, check DHCP server settings for lan. Also there may be a place there to set DNS servers for the router (which get passed to dhcp clients)
[06:49] <LMZ> help me plz, how i can view what package is owner of some binary
[06:50] <buddha> were can i got for hellp with a ubuntu sound problem
[06:50] <darkdrag0n> i had that problem with Frostwire, i fixed it by setting the outgoing port manually and forwarding that specific port to my computer via the router
[06:50] <Pici> LMZ: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[06:50] <dgjones> kailashamrit, i did use samba when i was sharing with windows machines, but having changed over to purely linux systems, I found that nfs did everything i needed
[06:50] <jodde> I can't.
[06:50] <Fear_lesS> [genii] : yes dlink is my dhcp server
[06:50] <jodde> The entire policy menu is greyed out.
[06:50] <Neuling> darkdrag0n work like that on amule too
[06:51] <erstazi> What is the proper way do delete/remove a network bridge?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> the sshfs is a handy tool for transfering files also.  and the samba-fuse tools :0
[06:51] <kailashamrit> dgjones:  ok thanx for help
[06:51] <jodde> Alright..
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone here help me with ps? I'm using ps c -u `whoami` but it truncates the application names.
[06:52] <jodde> How do I get root privelages?
[06:52] <kmaynard> Megaqwerty, man ps
[06:52] <Megaqwerty> jodde: sudo
[06:52] <hinogi> sudo
[06:52] <Dr_willis> !root
[06:52] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> kmaynard: so you don't know either then?
[06:53] <kmaynard> Megaqwerty, no, but man does
, thanks, some times you know that some command exists, but don't know exactly name =))
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> kmaynard: possibly...I've been looking through the page for quite some time now
[06:53] <Neuling> Please can anybody help me it seems that ubuntu recognizes my soundcard but i get no sound what should i do i am using sis si7012 as soundcard
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> kmaynard: figured someone might know off the top of their head
[06:53] <Megaqwerty> kmaynard: save me more man reading
[06:54] <usr13>  Previous question about showing package version number:  apt-cache --installed show [packagename-here]  |grep "Version"
[06:54] <LjL> usr13: also  apt-cache policy [packagename]   is perhaps a speedier alternative
[06:54] <Megaqwerty> usr13: shorter version of that is aptitude show [packagename]  | grep Version
[06:54] <usr13> Tnx
[06:55] <darkdrag0n> anyone got an idea on how to manually set IRQ in Feisty?
[06:55] <darkdrag0n> or any other distro...for that matter
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone running feisty on a t60p
[06:56] <darkdrag0n> Neuling, is it a fresh install?
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm still havin problems with the bluetooth mouse
[06:56] <Neuling> darkdrag0n yes
[06:56] <jodde> Who, Neuling?
[06:56] <jodde> brb
[06:56] <darkdrag0n> what is the soundcard?
[06:57] <Neuling> sis si7012
[06:57] <Neuling> soundcard was working on windows
[06:57] <Neuling> alsamixer is ok
[06:57] <maike> hi, anyone achieved to have dual head, using two pci-e cards, one an ati and the other an nvidia?
[06:57] <flaco> hi all... this is not a ubuntu question.. but... how can I get the IP's of the computers in a lan ?
[06:58] <darkdrag0n> are your sound modules loaded in lsmod?
[06:58] <Neuling> darkdrag0n i am new on ubuntu how does that work
[06:58] <darkdrag0n> flaco, ifconfig
[06:58] <Megaqwerty> flaco: I have a script
[06:58] <usr13> LjL: apt-cache policy  is good.  Thanks.
[06:58] <Megaqwerty> flaco: hold on...I'll pastebin it
[06:59] <Dr_willis> wowsers the ps man page.. is quite in depth.. :)
[06:59] <Ax3> Im trying to unmount a partition that belongs to my Windows XP recovery through the gnome gui (right click -> unmount), and I get the error "umount: /media/sda2 mount disagrees with fstab"
[06:59] <darkdrag0n> in terminal, type lsmod, that check for anything snd_, Neuling
[06:59] <flaco> Megaqwert: thks
[06:59] <OntzA> hi
[06:59] <jodde> Okay, still says I'm firewalled.
[06:59] <Neuling> ok thnx
[06:59] <darkdrag0n> np
[06:59] <flaco> darkdrag0n: I mean.. the whole LAN network
[06:59] <brobostigon> ntop
[07:00] <darkdrag0n> sorry flaco, i misunderstood
[07:00] <flaco> darkdrag0n: ;)
[07:00] <usr13> jodde: What says your firewalled?
[07:00] <OntzA> there's something bothering me with Ubuntu, why doesn't Krusader open rar files with krarc?
[07:01] <usr13> jodde: Did you run dcptump and see if the kernel is dropping packets?
[07:01] <Neuling> yes darkdrag0n i see more snd there
[07:01] <Megaqwerty> flaco: http://megaqwerty.pastebin.ca/721903
[07:01] <jodde> aMule says I'm firewalled.
[07:01] <DudsxD> [genii] : I'm Fear_lesS I checked My Router and my dhcp server are ok
[07:01] <OntzA> it's weird because I have rar installed but Krusader always opens the File Roller
[07:01] <Megaqwerty> flaco: edit the script based on the network type you're trying to scan. I never took the time to make it friendly to others as it was just for me...if you give me a couple mins I can make it more user friendly if you want...
[07:01] <usr13> jodde: More than likely, it is your ISP (that is doing the firewalling).
[07:01] <darkdrag0n> Neuling, is anything muted in the mixer?
[07:02] <jodde> My ISP can firewall?
[07:02] <flaco> Megaqwert: thks a lot :)
[07:02] <Poundo> is there an official Debian package for PHP 5 yet?
[07:02] <ezzieyguywuf> what is the difference between Gnome and KDE
[07:02] <Neuling> no put everything at the maximum
[07:02] <darkdrag0n> your modem could have a built in Firewall, as can your router, jodde
[07:02] <usr13> jodde: Yes, they sure can and they sure do.  THey can if the want to.
[07:02] <Megaqwerty> flaco: you're welcome. Is it good as is or do you want me to "upgrade" it?
[07:02] <kmaynard> ezzieyguywuf, seriously?
[07:02] <ezzieyguywuf> hey i'm new
[07:02] <Vegar> Poundo: Yes
[07:02] <jodde> My router does have built in firewall, but I changed my router settings to DMZ.
[07:02] <ezzieyguywuf> i just installed linux last week
[07:02] <ezzieyguywuf> :-)
[07:03] <OntzA> anyone here uses Krusader?
[07:03] <Vegar> Poundo: there has been for quite some time
[07:03] <kmaynard> ezzieyguywuf, there are gigantic flame wars dedicated to just that
[07:03] <jodde> Which is supposedly how to disable the firewall on one computer.
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> oh
[07:03] <darkdrag0n> do you hear startup sounds, Neuling?
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> well i guess i'll rescind my question then, i wouldn't want to start anything
[07:03] <Neuling> darkdrag0n no nothing
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme rephrase, any particular desktop recommended for a t60p running feisty?
[07:04] <darkdrag0n> what is the output of "aplay -l" in terminal, Neuling?
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> or any particular distributions for that matter (i heard linux mint was supposed to be good with the thinkpads....?)
[07:04] <kmaynard> ezzieyguywuf, go to kde.org and gnome.org, have a look around. try some live cd's. that's a start
[07:04] <flaco> Megaqwert: it crash in this line nmap -n -sP -oA output_file 192.168.0-100.0-255
[07:04] <usr13> jodde: You should check to see if your ISP blocks p2p
[07:04] <Megaqwerty> flaco: what's the error?
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[07:04] <Poundo> Vegar: ok so apt-get should find it right?
[07:04] <darkdrag0n> in my opinion, Gnome is the better desktop environment
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> just to clarify thoughm i don't have to reinstall the whole os i'm just adding a diff front end right?
[07:04] <unimatrix9> hello there
[07:04] <darkdrag0n> KDE seemed to have alot of bugs
[07:04] <Neuling> darkdrag0n the name of my soundcard
[07:04] <Vegar> Poundo: I don't know about ubuntu, but it's in debian etch
[07:05] <darkdrag0n> hold on Neuling, let me research briefly
[07:05] <Neuling> ok thnx
[07:05] <Poundo> Vegar: sorry whats a Debian etch... new here if you can't tell
[07:05] <Megaqwerty> Poundo: another distribution of Linux
[07:05] <Vegar> Poundo: it's the stable branch of debian
[07:06] <Megaqwerty> Poundo: Debian is however what Ubuntu uses as its base
[07:06] <Megaqwerty> flaco: What is the error you received?
[07:06] <unimatrix9> take an look at distro-watch.com and be amazed how many there are...
[07:06] <flaco> Megaqwert: :P I was missing the nmap, I installed and works perfect :)
[07:06] <darkdrag0n> Neuling, go to the mixer again and disable/mute the IEC958
[07:06] <unimatrix9> hehe
[07:06] <Megaqwerty> flaco: ah, good
[07:06] <Neuling> ok
[07:06] <Megaqwerty> flaco: enjoy!
[07:07] <flaco> Megaqwert: thks :)
[07:07] <ezzieyguywuf> i think i may have dist-upgrad ed to Gutsy Gibbon, is this less stable than feisty?
[07:07] <Neuling> how do i disable that
[07:07] <Megaqwerty> flaco: you're welcome
[07:07] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: yes. at the moment.
[07:07] <jodde> Apparently, Rogers does "packet shaping" whatever that is.
[07:08] <ezzieyguywuf> is there anyway to roll back to feisty
[07:08] <Poundo> Well I am running Dapper now and it had php 4 on it. i have screwed php up I think and would like to uninstall what i have and reinstall php5 clean. Is that possible or do I have to dump everthing?
[07:08] <Neuling> i mean i see no IEC958
[07:08] <darkdrag0n> try alsamixer in terminal
[07:08] <genii> Neuling: Research indicates SiS si7012 uses snd-intel8x0   or snd-intel8x0m driver
[07:08] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: run this command to be sure if you're on feisty or Gutsy: lsb_release -a
[07:08] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[07:09] <darkdrag0n> scroll with arrows, use < or > to mute the IEC958
[07:09] <ezzieyguywuf> unfortunately i'm not at my laptop right now but i will as soon as i get back
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: alright.
[07:09] <salamkenal> how to remove wine in ubuntu 7.04???
[07:09] <brobostigon> apt-get remove
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> salamkenal: sudo aptitude remove wine
[07:09] <ezzieyguywuf> and if i am in gutsy do i just have to grind it out till it stabilizes or what?
[07:09] <Ax3> Im trying to unmount a partition that belongs to my Windows XP recovery through the gnome gui (right click -> unmount), and I get the error "umount: /media/sda2 mount disagrees with fstab"
[07:09] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: unless you wanna reinstall, yeah
[07:09] <OntzA> well I repaired it myself, thanks for reading me anyway :P adding x-rar-compressed protocol to krarc did the thing
[07:09] <ezzieyguywuf> darn
[07:10] <genii> ezzieyguywuf: Pretty much, yeah
[07:10] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: as far as I know...
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> ok thanks
[07:10] <Neuling> genii snd-intel8x0
[07:10] <OntzA> bye
[07:10] <Megaqwerty> ezzieyguywuf: it's being released this month though. So it's really close to being considered "stable"
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> actually, though, i was having a hard time setting up ATI then on my third install of "feisty" after a dist-upgrade (i think) i was able to install through GUI no problem
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> so maybe i should just stick it out anyways
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> cool
[07:11] <Neuling> mot easier to buy a new sound card lol
[07:11] <InvisibleEye> Hi, how can I install Ubuntu on a Software RAID 0? by SuSE, you can select manual partition table... But bij Ubuntu :( (Its Ubuntu 7.04)
[07:11] <darkdrag0n> what ATI card were you having problems with, ezzieguywuf?
[07:11] <ezzieyguywuf> its just that now i'm having some suspend to ram issues as well as bluetooth mouse issues
[07:11] <darkdrag0n> still no sound, Neuling?
[07:11] <whileimhere> Hi I was wondering what to try if my cd rom has issues mounting a cd or dvd?
[07:11] <ezzieyguywuf> uhm, radeon v1600 (at least thats what fglrxinfo prints, though i think its a v2500 or thereabouts b/c its a t60p)
[07:12] <Neuling> i mean i see no IEC958 darkdrag0n
[07:12] <jodde> Yes, Neuling, but if you do that, make sure to disable the onboard card in your CMOS.
[07:12] <Megaqwerty> whileimhere: clean the disc?
[07:12] <Neuling> jodde how i do that
[07:12] <InvisibleEye> In the BIOS
[07:12] <whileimhere> It doesnt work well for any of my discs
[07:12] <rabbitnightmare> ok can anyone tell me if the next version of ubuntu will contain ndiswrapper?
[07:12] <darkdrag0n> ok Neuling, researching more
[07:12] <whileimhere> I upgraded to eft and it just went bad
[07:13] <Neuling> i have to hange things in my BIOS?
[07:13] <Neuling> i have to change things in my BIOS?
[07:13] <darkdrag0n> no Neuling
[07:13] <Neuling> ok
[07:13] <rabbitnightmare> and is it possible to get gnome 2.20 from apt-get?
[07:13] <S4nt4> Hello, does anyone can help: I cant record my microphone with the sound recorder...
[07:13] <Poundo> no takers on the uninstall what i have and reinstall php5 clean. Is that possible or do I have to dump everthing question eh! :-D
[07:13] <usr13> rabbitnightmare: I don't think any distro actually "contain's" ndiswrapper.  You install it as/if needed.
[07:14] <rabbitnightmare> pclos has it
[07:14] <Megaqwerty> Poundo: No idea what your question is there...sorry
[07:14] <rabbitnightmare> jus wondering if ubuntu would start having it
[07:14] <rabbitnightmare> i jus dont like pclos
[07:14] <rabbitnightmare> and i like ubuntu
[07:14] <volantares> howdy
[07:14] <Neuling> darkdrag0n not better to buy a new sound card?
[07:15] <genii> Neuling: Is there an entry in /etc/modprobe.conf for the snd-intel8x0 ?
[07:15] <rabbitnightmare> ok ty
[07:15] <darkdrag0n> in my experience with Linux.....virtually everything works if you have the time/patience for it
[07:15] <Neuling> wait genii i will check it
[07:15] <ezzieyguywuf> so i was reading up on linux mint and it says its based on ubuntu or something like that. does this mean if i want to run it i can run it under ubuntu or do i have to install it as a whole separate os?
[07:15] <genii> darkdrag0n: This is true :) But a great many people are impatient
[07:16] <rabbitnightmare> linux mint is a seperate os
[07:16] <darkdrag0n> i'm not one of them...heh....luckily
[07:16] <rabbitnightmare> try virtual box ose
[07:16] <usr13> ezzieyguywuf: It is a whold separate OS
[07:16] <darkdrag0n> i spent all morning looking for a fix for an APIC error
[07:16] <Poundo> Megaqwerty: what i ment was is there a way to uninstall php 5.4-1 and reinstall 5.2 I think I have a problem with versions of certain files and want to start clean. But with out stomping on apache etc. Sorry!
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Linux Mint is nice. it seems to be diverting more and more from the standard ubuntu with every release/update however.
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks
[07:16] <kyja> it would be a good idea if ndswrapper was included for convenience. otherwise you have to cord lug to a network to get wireless to function. and depending on the chipset it might fail ! only increasing your frustration. if it was there to try first it would not be so anoying
[07:17] <rabbitnightmare> i agree with kyja
[07:17] <Megaqwerty> Poundo: I guess you could go to http://packages.ubuntu.com find php5.2 and install it using "sudo dpkg -i [debname] "
[07:17] <rabbitnightmare> why isnt it?
[07:17] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone here experience problems with fiest+t60p+bluetooth mouse being recognized on boot?
[07:17] <ubeginnertu> Hi. I have a HP PSC 1510 printer. I need to get it working with Ubuntu. Any support?
[07:17] <brobostigon> hpijs
[07:18] <zeroflag> JIRA wants me to set the "JAVA_HOME variable to where [I]  installed Java." I have installed the sun-java6 package, to where should I set the variable?
[07:18] <jrib> kyja: it is on the cd afaik
[07:18] <ezzieyguywuf> i know the wireless radio is on b/c the light is on and when i hidd --connect [my address]  it says operation in progress (or something like that)
[07:18] <jason__> what is the command to dpkg --configure that
[07:18] <Dr_willis> ubeginnertu,  you proberly need to install the hpijs package.
[07:18] <Xbehave> what are the downsides to using lvm, slight decrease in performance? chance of the whole volume going on a crash?
[07:18] <Frederik> Hi everyone!  Does anyone know why I can find my netgear wireless card in the hardware management but cant find it in the network configuration?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> or was it hpojs
[07:18] <rabbitnightmare> how do i install it from the cd
[07:18] <rabbitnightmare> ???
[07:18] <ezzieyguywuf> i actually have to fn+f5 the bluetooth radio off to kill that and then re hidd --connect it
[07:18] <jason__> it say i have to reconfig the dpkg
[07:18] <jrib> !wifi > rabbitnightmare (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:19] <rabbitnightmare> gawd the ubuntu community rocks they have bots to help you
[07:19] <darkdrag0n> Frederick, are you in Feisty?
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> haha thats cool i didn't know that
[07:19] <Frederik> well, where can I check that?
[07:19] <rabbitnightmare> the community has chosen the distro for me
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone have any feedback on my bluetooth issue?
[07:19] <amadeux> Which of the billions of vnc servers in the feisty repo should I install? I want to connect with a windows machine to a running gnome session
[07:20] <rabbitnightmare> im reccomending it to all of my friends
[07:20] <ubeginnertu> Ok Dr_willis It detected it automatically. Maybe was just a bit slow this morning :o) Thanks!
[07:20] <Davy_Jones> how can i reset all the compiz-fusion settings for my account
[07:20] <darkdrag0n> either way, i believe Netgear uses the Atheros drivers
[07:20] <genii> Neuling: Perhaps try what is suggested in posting #5 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283610
[07:20] <Neuling> ok
[07:20] <Megaqwerty> rabbitnightmare:  :)
[07:20] <Megaqwerty> amadeux: I'd use Ubuntu's built-in VNC server
[07:21] <Frederik> atheros drivers, hmmn, but it looks like the system has already found the card
[07:21] <ezzieyguywuf> davy_jones: i believe there is a compiz chatroom that might be able to help you better
[07:21] <Megaqwerty> amadeux: System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[07:21] <rabbitnightmare> it is so much nicer than pclinuxos they are top on distro watch but because the community goes to the site daily and clicks the link
[07:21] <rabbitnightmare> and has bots designed to do so
[07:21] <rabbitnightmare> i shudda went with ubuntu first
[07:21] <kst> is ubuntu limiting/closing ports by default? somehow my bittorrent wont ever seed, how do i set port forwarding in ubuntu?
[07:21] <kyja> good point. but I am not sure if it is easy to get. you cant apt-get it or use the repository do to lack of networking if your not near wired network at the moment. so you have to file browse for it. witch is not a big deal for the novice getting realy use to ubuntu but this is a "new to linux os" . of course I have been cursed with bcm43xx chipset so I went through a nightmare. once I was done I created my own "get ubuntu goodied up" pen
[07:21] <kyja> drive.
[07:21] <jshriver> greetings how do you setup a network printer under Ubuntu? I tried "add printer" gave it the ip, choose socket, and gave it the printer I have.
[07:22] <jshriver> still doesnt print
[07:22] <Xbehave> !lvm
[07:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:22] <darkdrag0n> Frederick, do you have internet with the Netgear card?
[07:22] <amadeux> Megaqwerty: cool, didn't know about that one
[07:22] <Ax3> doesn't ubuntu's default vnc software leave an open, unsecured session running?
[07:22] <jason__> help plz how do i manually do a dpkg configure
[07:22] <kst> !ports
[07:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[07:22] <Poundo> Megaqwerty: Thanks for the help more study required on my end.
[07:22] <rabbitnightmare> ok formatting and switching to ubuntu
[07:22] <rabbitnightmare> be back in a few
[07:22] <kst> !firewall
[07:22] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: it's only unsecured if you don't give it a password
[07:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:23] <Frederik> by internet do you mean if im sure I have a working internet connection?
[07:23] <S4nt4> !mic
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <darkdrag0n> yes, Frederick
[07:23] <S4nt4> !record mic
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record mic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Ax3> Megaqwerty, does the session run independent of the current desktop session?
[07:23] <Megaqwerty> Poundo: you're welcome
[07:23] <Frederik> okay, yes, I have a perfecly working connection which my imac is running wirelessly on
[07:23] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: I don't believe so
[07:23] <Ax3> :\
[07:24] <Ax3> where is this vnc server anywhere
[07:24] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: but it's designed that way on purpose
[07:24] <Ax3> im looking on the menu...
[07:24] <Ax3> don't see it
[07:24] <darkdrag0n> my netgear wireless card shows as using the Atheros driver
[07:24] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[07:24] <amadeux> Ax3: read above...
[07:24] <darkdrag0n> it is a WG311T
[07:24] <Frederik> okay, mine is a WG511
[07:25] <me> emacs22-gtk and 100% cpu usage?... anyone?
[07:25] <Frederik> but how would I get those drivers
[07:25] <darkdrag0n> if you have a working internet connection under Ubuntu, chances are you are already using the drivers
[07:25] <Ax3> I remember when I used to use fedora core, I was able to initiate vncserver sessions remotely, then login over the network, is this possible under ubuntu?
[07:25] <trogdor> anyone know of a nice light weight display manager? I'm using blackbox and I thought gdm was a bit bulky
[07:25] <jshriver> How do you relay email from one server to another?
[07:26] <Ax3> this 'remote desktop' doesn't look like what im looking for, because it'll take over my current session
[07:26] <jshriver> not full email but local mail on a network
[07:26] <darkdrag0n> they are in the linux-restricted-modules
[07:26] <jshriver> or have a howto/documentation
[07:26] <Frederik> okay, well, the lan card with wire is working fine, im using ubuntu right now
[07:26] <Riderxsjado23> I'm new user i would like register in this channel how I may it
[07:26] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: then use vnc4server
[07:26] <_gpg_> hello
[07:26] <Megaqwerty> Ax3: it's in the repos
[07:26] <Ax3> Megaqwerty, ok thanks, i'll google it :)
[07:26] <Pici> !register | Riderxsjado23
[07:26] <ubotu> Riderxsjado23: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:26] <_gpg_> i'm looking for a screencast application please, any one have an idea ?
[07:26] <Riderxsjado23> yes
[07:26] <darkdrag0n> in networking, under Gnome, your card will show as "Wireless Connection"
[07:27] <jodde> Crap, he left.
[07:27] <vice> hi all, sorry for being little bit offtopic, but i need some help. i'm configuring network of 15 computers  - all ubuntu, so it's not that offtopic - but i need to buy a good adsl router to connect all this to internet. what i need is: at least 4 network ports, at least one gigabit network port, preferably build-in wifi router. could you suggest something stable, configurable and not very expensive?
[07:27] <jodde> Anyone else experienced with aMule?
[07:27] <me> I can't seem to find any bugs for emacs in launchpad
[07:27] <tripte1> is there anyone who knows how to get mod_python and Kid templates to work?
[07:27] <pike__> jodde: ?
[07:28] <jodde> Huh?
[07:28] <jodde> Uhmm yes?
[07:28] <Frederik> okay, but only the Ethernet and modem connections show up there
[07:28] <Frederik> does it matter which version of ubuntu I have?
[07:28] <bottiger> how to allow more than one user to sudo? do you just add them to the admin group? will that give them full root-access?
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone here having temp management problems on a t60p in feisty?
[07:30] <darkdrag0n> under System > Administration > System Monitor, click on System to find out what version you are using, Frederik
[07:30] <zeroflag> where can I find the JDK root directory?
[07:30] <zerwas> does somebody know if the file .hidden also works for konqueror?
[07:31] <Frederik> i am using 6.06 dapper drake
[07:31] <daubers> Hey all, I've just upgraded to the gutsy beta and can't figure out how to enable the desktop effects
[07:31] <daubers> any hints?
[07:31] <Pici> daubers: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:32] <ezzieyguywuf> install compiz
[07:32] <darkdrag0n> then yes, it makes a difference, my knowledge is consistent with Edgy and FIesty only.....unfortunately
[07:32] <Daylighter> is there a gutsy development channel?
[07:32] <ezzieyguywuf> or download them via synaptic. for some reason they're not there
[07:32] <Daylighter> I upgraded recently and am unable to start X no matter what I do
[07:32] <daubers> okies
[07:32] <Frederik> okay, and feisty is the newest one? 7.x
[07:32] <Pici> Daylighter: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[07:32] <dgjones> !gutsy | Daylighter
[07:32] <ubotu> Daylighter: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <Daylighter> thank you pici
[07:33] <darkdrag0n> do you have an ATI card, Daylighter?
[07:33] <tushyd> I got a new Compal IFL90 but can't seem to get my microphone to work... I've messed with alsa-mixer and everything
[07:33] <Daylighter> no I have an NVIDIA card
[07:33] <Daylighter> X starts and goes to this screen that asks me to choose my monitor resolution, then when I click Okay it blinks a few more times and goes back to the same screen
[07:33] <graelb>  If anyone is alive... I just installed xubuntu to a flash drive, and am booting persistant from that drive... live
[07:33] <darkdrag0n> i read a few bug reports on both ATI and NVidia dealing with xorg not starting in Gutsy
[07:33] <kotau> does anyone know why xmms takes up so damn much memory after playing a stream for a few hours?
[07:33] <antonino> Jeremy-: c sei?
[07:34] <graelb>  if that makes sense
[07:34] <graelb>  i'm trying to change the fstab to mount my ntfs drive so i can access it with write privelages... and i can't get it to keep the new fstab...
[07:34] <Daylighter> I have had gutsy for a while and this is the only update that's truly broken anything
[07:34] <graelb> I imagine ubuntu writes the fstab on boot, but is there  a way to change it so i can either run a script before fstab is executed, or set the fstab before boot?
[07:34] <darkdrag0n> graelb, install ntfs-3g
[07:34] <genii> vice: Linksys wrt330n is nice
[07:34] <eck> graelb: you probably need to change it in the initrd
[07:34] <ddonky> anyone else having trouble logging in to 'gizmo project' today?
[07:34] <ubeginnertu> @fonts
[07:35] <ubeginnertu> Hm.
[07:35] <eck> (that's just a guess though)
[07:35] <Frederik> darkdrag0n: can I upgrade to 7.0 from 6.06?
[07:35] <ubeginnertu> How can I install Windows fonts on Ubuntu.. Lost the link I was given yesterday by Ompaul.
[07:35] <graelb> Will ntfs - 3g work for live persistant on a usb?
[07:35] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: gksudo update-manager -c -d
[07:35] <graelb> Where's initrd eck?
[07:35] <darkdrag0n> certainly, Frederik, though in my experience it's better to download the Fiesty iso and do a fresh install
[07:36] <Megaqwerty> ubeginnertu: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[07:36] <ubeginnertu> How can I install Windows fonts on Ubuntu.. Lost the link I was given yesterday by Ompaul.
[07:36] <ubeginnertu> ok
[07:36] <ubeginnertu> Thanks Megaqwerty
[07:36] <ubeginnertu> Woops.. didnt mean to say that again.
[07:36] <Megaqwerty> ubeginnertu: you're welcome
[07:36] <darkdrag0n> graelb, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:36] <Frederik> okay, so Megaqwerty, what does that do?
[07:36] <graelb> 7.04 i believe
[07:36] <darkdrag0n> graelb, have you installed ntfs-3g?
[07:36] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: it invokes the update manager, and tells it to look for the latest distribution upgrade
[07:36] <graelb> nope! i'll do it real quick though
[07:37] <jodde> Well, see you guys later.
[07:37] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: a GUI will let you upgrade
[07:37] <jodde> Thanks foy your help.
[07:37] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: you will have to upgrade step by step though
[07:37] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: To 6.10, then to 7.04
[07:37] <godzirra> Is ubuntu.beryl-project.org down again? :/
[07:37] <ubeginnertu> I want to install NVU but when I type it in to Synaptic no results come up.
[07:37] <LjL> !nvu | ubeginnertu
[07:37] <ubotu> ubeginnertu: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[07:38] <darkdrag0n> you have to install ntfs-3g, then open it via Applications > System Tools, and check the box that reads "Enable write support for external device", then reboot and write support should be enabled
[07:38] <Frederik> okay, I will try to do that. Thank you both Megaqwerty and Darkdrag0n!
[07:38] <Megaqwerty> Frederik: you're welcome
[07:38] <ubeginnertu> LjL, Look's confusing lol :/
[07:38] <graelb> oh, well, if it's that easy
[07:38] <graelb> lol
[07:38] <graelb> hang on
[07:38] <brianski> totally off-topic - am i the only one who can't access youtube.com?
[07:38] <LjL> ubeginnertu: uh?
[07:38] <Xbehave> can lvm resise crypto partitions?
[07:38] <darkdrag0n> do you have a flash player installed, brianski?
[07:39] <graelb> i don't think ntfs-3g is in aptitude, so i'll need to compile it?
[07:39] <kaspar> hi
[07:39] <Cyber_Stalker> !forums
[07:39] <kaspar> im borat
[07:39] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[07:39] <darkdrag0n> no graelb, hold on and i'll find the repository for you
[07:39] <brianski> darkdrag0n: yeah, like i said - totally off-topic. neither ffox nor opera nor wget can pull the index page for youtube
[07:39] <Xbehave> graelb:  it is
[07:39] <sm> good morning! how do I change my default locale on ubuntu feisty ? system -> administration -> language support has no effect
[07:39] <Dr_willis> aptitude is the same as the  packages, same as apt.. its in there
[07:39] <Megaqwerty> graelb: there are ubuntu packages avaliable...look on youtube
[07:39] <LjL> brianski: no, it appears to be down, but yes, you're offtopic, better join #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of questions
[07:39] <Dr_willis> !info ntfs-3g
[07:39] <Megaqwerty> graelb: I mean google
[07:39] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:39] <darkdrag0n> i installed it via synaptec
[07:39] <brianski> LjL: wow - that's big. anyway thanks, sorry for the noise all
[07:39] <Megaqwerty> graelb: the youtube comment above screwed up my typing :-P
[07:39] <graelb> lol
[07:40] <Xbehave> can lvm resise crypto partitions?
[07:40] <graelb> is 7.04 dapper?
[07:40] <graelb> or feisty?
[07:40] <Megaqwerty> graelb: Fesity
[07:40] <graelb> Thought so
[07:40] <darkdrag0n> 7.04 is Feisty
[07:40] <Megaqwerty> graelb: 6.06 is dapper
[07:40] <Scunizi> Is there a way to fix my gigabit NIC to 100mbs?
[07:40] <darkdrag0n> Dapper didn't like my pc
[07:41] <eck> Scunizi: try using ethtool
[07:41] <darkdrag0n> i came here to ask a question....and i began answering every question that i had knowledge about
[07:41] <Scunizi> eck, is that a seperate prog. in synaptic? or a default prog.?
[07:41] <Gast333> hallo, weiss jemand von euch eine Lsung? Ich kann Kubuntu nicht installieren. Es wird von DVD gebootet und zum 1. Auswahlbildschirm komme ich noch. Aber wenn ich auf installieren klicke, dann wird der Kernel geladen und danach hab ich nur noch nen schwarzen Bildschirm
[07:41] <ubeginnertu> Um.. I go into terminal and to make myself route type "su" and it asks for a password and I type my root password and says Authentication failed.
[07:42] <ubeginnertu> Is this how to get into root?
[07:42] <eck> Scunizi: i'm not sure, but i've got it installed so it's probably part of the base package set
[07:42] <preaction> !root | ubeginnertu
[07:42] <ubotu> ubeginnertu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:42] <eck> ubeginnertu: try "sudo -i"
[07:43] <darkdrag0n> ubegginnertu, in order to use su, you will need to type in terminal, passwd root
[07:43] <DoYouKnow> hi, is there any way to get youtube videos playing in 64-bit ubuntu feisty?
[07:43] <LjL> darkdrag0n, please don't advise that
[07:43] <DoYouKnow> will gnash do it?
[07:43] <Scunizi> eck, thanks .. actually commandline startup is ethtool.. commandline only? or is there a gui available?
[07:43] <darkdrag0n> ok then
[07:44] <eck> Scunizi: afaik it is command line only
[07:44] <Cyber_Stalker> hi... could some one help me setup intelliJ idea?
[07:44] <darkdrag0n> is that bad advice, LjL?
[07:44] <Scunizi> eck, k.. thanks!
[07:44] <Journeyman> !gusty
[07:44] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[07:44] <Cyber_Stalker> getting a crash on run and im assuming its due to "IDEA_JDK=$JAVA_HOME"
[07:44] <Cleaver> Hello everyone. I seem to have a driver problem on my lappy when trying to install ubuntu 6.06
[07:44] <graelb> yeah, ntfs-3g doesn't show up in synaptic, let me note that i'm using xubuntu, but it should still be there, right?
[07:44] <Journeyman> it is suppost to release this month isn't it?
[07:44] <eck> Scunizi: i think you just need something like "ethool -s eth0 speed 100" though (look at the man pagE)
[07:44] <ubeginnertu> eck, To open /etc/apt/sources.list as root the command I use is what?
[07:45] <LjL> darkdrag0n: yes. ubuntu is intended to be used with sudo, not with a root account. it's locked by default, and it's meant to stay that way. if one wants to login to a root account, "sudo -i" will do that fine.
[07:45] <Cleaver> And I have no idea how to fix it :D
[07:45] <Scunizi> eck, looking a man now.. I appriciate it.
[07:45] <eck> ubeginnertu: sudo your-favorite-editor-here /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <esteth> How do i remove applications from my list of apps that load at startup from a CLI?
[07:45] <darkdrag0n> thank you, LjL, i wasn't aware of that
[07:45] <Journeyman> if I install gusty beta, will the update be pretty seamless from beta to release?
[07:45] <darkdrag0n> explains why i had problems logging in as root though
[07:45] <ubeginnertu> ok thanks eck
[07:45] <darkdrag0n> heh
[07:45] <LjL> Journeyman: probably not.
[07:46] <esteth> How do i change the "start this stuff at startup" list from a terminal?
[07:46] <eck> esteth: there are a couple of tools, i like rcconf
[07:47] <ubeginnertu> LjL, I added that line to sources.list and opened synaptic and searched for "kompozer" still no luck,
[07:48] <LjL> ubeginnertu: you need to type  sudo apt-get update  (or do the equivalent operation in Synaptic) after adding a repository,.
[07:48] <esteth> eck: I ran that, but i don't see compiz-fusion on that list, which i have in my list in the "sessions" applet in GNOME
[07:48] <graelb> whats the command for apt-get to update sources?
[07:48] <darkdrag0n> reload in synaptic
[07:48] <LjL> graelb: sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <darkdrag0n> apt-get update in terminal
[07:48] <Scunizi> eck, am I right in thinking that if my Lan network & router are 100 that by reducing my one and only gigbit nic to 100 I should be able to help eliminate "data crashing" causing a slowdown of the internet connection?
[07:48] <graelb> yeah, that didn't make ntfs-3g appear... hehe darm
[07:48] <graelb> darn
[07:49] <darkdrag0n> hold on graelb, i'll find out where i got it
[07:49] <ubeginnertu> LjL, I used the command you gave in terminal, re-started synaptic and still get "There is no matching application available."
[07:49] <LjL> !ntfs-3g > graelb    (graelb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:49] <graelb> Thanks darkdrag0n. i appreciate your help =)_
[07:49] <LjL> !info ntfs-3g
[07:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:49] <LjL> graelb: it's in Universe. enable Universe.
[07:49] <darkdrag0n> yes...that's where i got it from
[07:49] <darkdrag0n> the Universe repository
[07:50] <graelb> how do i enable Universe?
[07:50] <LjL> !universe > graelb    (graelb, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:50] <darkdrag0n> in synaptic, go to Settings, Repositories
[07:50] <usr13> !universe > usr13
[07:50] <ubeginnertu> LjL, Any ideas?
[07:51] <Curs0r> !bugs
[07:51] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:51] <LjL> ubeginnertu: what exactly did you add to your sources.list?
[07:51] <will__> whats the gutsy testing channel name?
[07:51] <eck> esteth: that's because compiz fusion is run at login, not at bootup
[07:51] <LjL> will__: #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <will__> LjL: cheers
[07:51] <eck> Scunizi: your nic should autonegotitate with the rest of the network
[07:51] <ubeginnertu> LjL, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu feisty universe
[07:52] <LjL> ubeginnertu: seems correct to me, try just doing  sudo apt-get install kompozer 
[07:52] <vice> genii thanks. this is not ADSL router, but maybe i will buy two devices instead of one
[07:52] <ubeginnertu> LjL- Just did that. Terminal works fine, thanks!
[07:53] <S4nt4> Does anybody have wake on lan working on feisty ?
[07:53] <jason__> after installing gusty i got an error
[07:53] <graelb> sweet. found it
[07:53] <Scunizi> eck, it does, and is currently set that way, but I understand that it may autonegotiate with each send and receive.  If it always starts at 1000 then negotiates down to 100, that takes time..each time.  And although the time increment is small it can add up.
[07:53] <graelb> thank you guys =)
[07:53] <eck> Scunizi: although i believe ifconfig will tell you what speed the device is actually using
[07:53] <jason__> so i done a sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:53] <dgjones> !gutsy | jason_
[07:53] <ubotu> jason_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:54] <graelb> awesome.
[07:54] <jason__> then this came up update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic
[07:54] <esteth> eck: So how do i change things that run on logon?
[07:54] <darkdrag0n> remember to enable write support via Applications > System Tools > NTFS Configuration Tool
[07:54] <graelb> Only other question i had, was how to run a script to change xorg.conf before it gets executed
[07:54] <eck> esteth: you want to do it non-graphically? it's a gconf setting
[07:54] <graelb> anyone know that one?
[07:54] <ubeginnertu> LjL- How to remove a package via Terminal?
[07:54] <eck> esteth: they're just a bunch of xml files
[07:55] <LjL> ubeginnertu: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:55] <ubeginnertu> k
[07:55] <darkdrag0n> no idea on that, graelb
[07:55] <graelb> bummer hehe
[07:55] <eck> Scunizi: i don't think that's how ethernet works, but i admit i'm not sure
[07:55] <darkdrag0n> why not just edit the xorg.conf to suit your needs?
[07:55] <thesaint4444> hi guys - anyone know what to do if you need to upgrade a package that is out of date in the sources when you do apt-get upgrade package_name... ?
[07:55] <esteth> eck: Right, so where would i find the xml files? I just get a white screen and stuff when i start up into x :S
[07:55] <graelb> I do, but everytime i reboot it defaults back to whatever it was
[07:55] <eck> Scunizi: but ethernet is supposed to be a broadcast protocol so it would make sense to only negotitate the speed once per every time a new device connects
[07:55] <graelb> so i have a copy of it how i want it, and s cript to fix it, but i have to run the script, and reboot x to get it to work right
[07:55] <eck> esteth: ~/.gconf
[07:56] <esteth> eck: thanks
[07:56] <Scunizi> eck, except if the network (lan) was really busy it might do an "on the fly" negotiation
[07:56] <eck> esteth: if you backup/remove ~/.gconf ~/.local and ~/.gnome* you should pretty much be able to login with a completely default gnome session
[07:56] <wahehet> HAI
[07:56] <Electrosys> How can I get the syntax highlighting on in the vim that comes with fiesty. When I try :syntax on it says that the command is not available in this verson. so I tried sudo apt-get upgrade vim and that didn't do anything. Can anyone help?
[07:56] <darkdrag0n> i never had a problem with that, graelb, mine always stayed how i edited it
[07:57] <darkdrag0n> are you sure you are editing and saving the xorg.conf as xorg.conf?
[07:57] <bruenig> Electrosys, vim-full
[07:57] <spiderpig> .. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:57] <bruenig> Electrosys, even vim-full was packaged by a down syndrome patient so don't be surprised if that is crippled as well
[07:57] <usr13> Electrosys: Not sure what "syntax highlighting" is
[07:58] <graelb> even on the live version?
[07:58] <Scunizi> eck, interesting article on speeding up tcp/ip connections.. http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/linux-netperf.txt
[07:58] <thesaint4444> how do i make apt-get install the latest source for a package? the default is really old .... ?
[07:58] <graelb> yeah, i'm sure, because when i reboot X after changing it, it works how i want it to =P
[07:58] <Pici> !nickspam > _ricardo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:58] <darkdrag0n> odd
[07:58] <graelb> all i need to do is add one line to xorg.conf to stop the verticle scoll on my mousepad
[07:58] <bruenig> thesaint4444, you don't
[07:58] <bruenig> thesaint4444, you get the source and you compile it yourself
[07:58] <usr13> thesaint4444: What Ubuntu release are you using?
[07:59] <thesaint4444> usr13: dapper...
[07:59] <Electrosys> bruenig: thanks for the help..
[07:59] <esteth> eck: Thanks. I just tried logging in to "failsafe GNOME" session, but even that gives the same result. a grey box in the top left corner that reveals itself to be an error message after some time, then a white screen where i can semi-interact with menu bars, allthough all the graphics are messed up.
[07:59] <eck> Scunizi: yeah, i took a networking/sockets programming class about a year ago and learned all about that stuff, it's really pretty interesting
[07:59] <usr13> thesaint4444: apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:59] <softwork> yes
[07:59] <graelb> anyway, i'll be right bakc, going to test ntfs -3g
[07:59] <thesaint4444> bruenig: so how do you know when to use apt-get or get the source?
[08:00] <Scunizi> eck, an actual education! :) wow!  I'm just a 47 yr old hack.. but I like this stuff.
[08:00] <eck> esteth: have you looked at ~/.xsession-errors?
[08:00] <thesaint4444> usr13: apt-get dist-upgrade  - wont that upgrade my distro?
[08:00] <_ricardo> I have a laptop and It does not have serial port... But I need to try a software using serial... Is there anyway to create a virtual serial port ??
[08:00] <esteth> eck: no, i'll take a look just now
[08:00] <usr13> thesaint4444: Yes. Alternately;  You could change your sources.list
[08:00] <kritzstapf> which programm should i use for playing realmedia? realplayer is veeery slow
[08:00] <usr13> thesaint4444: and then change it back, but don't recommend that.
[08:01] <bruenig> thesaint4444, when you want something that isn't six months old, you get the source
[08:01] <bruenig> otherwise the repos are awesome
[08:01] <Megaqwerty> usr13: if your sources.list isn't changed to the next version, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to the next version
[08:01] <usr13> thesaint4444: Better off just to find the .deb version of the package and use dpkg  to install it.
[08:01] <softwork> please, where i get pidgin.deb x64
[08:01] <thesaint4444> usr13: ok, i installed courier and the package was 2 years old...
[08:01] <Crozar> whats is the easiest ubuntu ?
[08:01] <usr13> Megaqwerty: is correct.
[08:01] <bottiger> How can I find out how many (and how big) harddrives my server has? Does this make you any wiser? http://pastebin.ca/721988
[08:01] <unimatrix9> plain old ubuntu
[08:02] <thesaint4444> usr: why is the deb version better?
[08:02] <Megaqwerty> thesaint4444: it is easier to install and remove
[08:02] <Crozar> whats the easiest ubuntu?
[08:02] <bruenig> !repeat | Crozar
[08:02] <ubotu> Crozar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:02] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: I don't know what you mean by the easiest ubuntu?
[08:02] <esteth> eck: Theres a few lines in there, but none of them look like errors :S. it seems like a graphics issue, since it only appeared after i attempted to run a game through wine in fullscreen over dual monitors which arn't the same size. Even when i change xorg.conf to use 'nv' instead of 'nvidia' though, the same problem occurs :S
[08:02] <Crozar> who cant answer an easy question lo
[08:02] <betrion> hello
[08:02] <Supaplex> Crozar: what kind of unbiased answer do you expect?
[08:02] <thesaint4444> * hmm...
[08:02] <Crozar> i mean the easiest a good one for people who uses windows
[08:03] <betrion> can somebody confirm me is it possible to boot ubuntu from iso using grub?
[08:03] <nick4> Crozar I have tried them all but Edubuntu, and they all seemed the same easy to me.
[08:03] <unimatrix9> bottiger : looks like you have two drives...
[08:03] <eck> esteth: and you've restarted X?
[08:03] <eck> esteth: you could also look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:03] <Crozar> Edubuntu has microsoft office?
[08:03] <esteth> eck: many times. Not tried a reboot yet, but it doesn't seem like that will solve the problem
[08:03] <nick4> I need a program to fetch my e-mails (via POP3) and store them as files 001.eml, 002.eml, and so on. In Thunderbird, I am forced to right click on each message and "Save as", which is frustrating. Does anyone know of such a program? It doesn't have to be command line
[08:03] <bruenig> thesaint4444, you need to understand something about ubuntu, it is always older then death. The packages are never up to date. If you desire up to date packages without constant compilation of source files, you want to look for another distro. Or you can pray to lord linus torvalds that someone packages one and you find it on the internet but that is dangerous
[08:03] <bottiger> unimatrix9: and can you se how big they are :)
[08:03] <dvs01> i need to install the alsa drivers manually in order to get my ibm thinkpad t61 to work properly. should i remove the alsa packages before doing this?
[08:03] <thesaint4444> * so if i am using dapper the source list for any installed apps is likely to be really old...
[08:03] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: I think GNOME is really easy to use, but KDE (Kubuntu) feels a little more like windows
[08:03] <eck> esteth: did you just log out or actually restart gdm?
[08:04] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: this is just my personal opinion of course
[08:04] <Crozar> ah so kubuntu is good for my friends
[08:04] <betrion> excuse me,can somebody confirm me is it possible to boot ubuntu from iso using grub?
[08:04] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: im using ubuntu and im ok with commands but for people like my friends =p
[08:04] <esteth> eck: i did a ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:04] <esteth> eck: how do i restart gdm?
[08:04] <eck> betrion: i believe so
[08:04] <unimatrix9> bottiger : better run on terminal df
[08:04] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: and edubuntu is for education?
[08:04] <eck> esteth: ok, that is fine
[08:04] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: that's what it's aimed at
[08:04] <thesaint4444> bruenig: ok, thanks, i didn't know that... so often people use the source and compile themselves?
[08:04] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: means whats the diffrence lol?
[08:05] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: it has microsoft office?
[08:05] <bruenig> thesaint4444, no they just sit with old stuff or they switch
[08:05] <Megaqwerty>  !edubuntu | Crozar
[08:05] <ubotu> Crozar: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[08:05] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: or openoffice like the rest of us
[08:05] <softwork> iam happy
[08:05] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: it has OpenOffice, but the preinstalled apps are more geared towards schools
[08:05] <graelb> hi there
[08:05] <betrion> eck: are you aware how?
[08:05] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[08:05] <graelb> ntfs-3g didn't work :-\
[08:05] <freak124> my partitions are not visible on the live cd, what do I do now? I don't wont to lose them!
[08:05] <eck> betrion: it just works -- grub supports iso9660 filesystems
[08:06] <bruenig> thesaint4444, if you are able to regularly compile from source, you are also generally competent enough to use some of the better distros out there that provide up to date packages and so those people would tend to switch because ubuntu doesn't offer anything to them
[08:06] <thesaint4444> bruenig: no disadvantages to using dpkg?
[08:06] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: it also has something called thin-client functionality.
[08:06] <esteth> eck: I just tried changing some stuff, and now i think i have to reboot. I'll be back in 5 or 10 minuites if it's not working
[08:06] <betrion> eck: wanna give me a little hand?
[08:06] <unimatrix9> bottiger : or run lshw , it gives an complete list of all your hardware
[08:06] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: whats that? does it make the openoffice and all the school programs open faster? i mean very fast
[08:06] <basti__> -de
[08:06] <eck> betrion: are you trying to boot a cd, or an iso file?
[08:06] <freak124> any reasons why my partitions would not be visible on the live cd?
[08:06] <betrion> im not good with grub commands
[08:06] <betrion> just an 2gb iso file
[08:06] <bottiger> unimatrix9: ah - thanks. didn't know about lshw
[08:06] <trappist> bruenig: providing up to date packages doesn't equate to better.  you lose some stability doing that.  if you'd rather be bleeding edge than stable, that's great, but it's definitely not automatically better.
[08:07] <usr13> thesaint4444: You can get the tarball and install from that, but if you want to keep the system "clean" install / use checkinstal.
[08:07] <bruenig> trappist read the context of the discussion
[08:07] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: no, it allows you to have one central server, and a ton of underpowered machines, and the underpowered machines run Ubuntu from the Main server. So they do none of the processing.
[08:07] <eck> betrion: you need to dump it onto anohter partition, so you might as well extract it as ext3 or the file
[08:07] <thesaint4444> bruenig: so what does ubuntu offer?
[08:07] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: which helps because schools have budgets...
[08:07] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: nice | hey but wats the best ubuntu ? for a ubuntu user
[08:07] <bruenig> you don't loose stability, the only thing you have to fear is the occasional poor package, those with general competence can deal with it, those who can't are destroyed by it which is precisely why ubuntu is so cautious in consideration of its userbase
[08:07] <usr13> thesaint4444: By "clean" I mean keep the package manager in control of all packages.
[08:07] <betrion> eck: if you mean extracting the files from it to hard disk i did it
[08:08] <graelb> So, ntfs-3g doesn't want to allow me to write to the ntfs drive... lol what's my next option?
[08:08] <mnk> hi guys - can u tell me where the installer downloads the files pls?
[08:08] <Megaqwerty>  !best | crozar
[08:08] <ubotu> crozar: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:08] <bruenig> thesaint4444, those who aren't competent can use it successfully
[08:08] <eck> betrion: ok, so now you just need to edit your menu.lst to have grub point at the right kernel and initrd... you should look at the isolinux.cfg (i think that's what it's called) and see what kernel options the cd was using
[08:08] <mnk> that is, the install files to upgrade to gutsy
[08:08] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: I personally use and love the regular Ubuntu (Gnome)
[08:08] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: Xubuntu sounds Strong =)
[08:08] <jsidhu2> can someone help me fix my system. I've messed it up trying to apt-get php 5.2.4 from dotdeb. I need someone to walk me thru to restore my system so that I have the basic LAMP server working..
[08:08] <Crozar> ah
[08:08] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: but others love KDE
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> (kubuntu)
[08:09] <betrion> eck: k lets see
[08:09] <Crozar> KDE = kubuntu
[08:09] <thesaint4444> bruenig: so what is a better distro?
[08:09] <eck> Megaqwerty: they're heretics ;-)
[08:09] <freak124> does someone have a clue why partitions could be invisible on the live cd?
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> eck: haha
[08:09] <GNine> "the problem is choice"
[08:09] <TV-VCR> Hello
[08:09] <TV-VCR> I'm having problems burning a disc image
[08:09] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: and Xubuntu runs faster, so it's better for underpowered machines
[08:09] <usr13> jsidhu2: Not sure what your problem is but you can try apt-get -f install
[08:09] <TV-VCR> *of ubuntu
[08:09] <jsidhu2> http://pastebin.com/m38314526
[08:10] <bruenig> thesaint4444, it is relative to your needs and abilities. If you are competent and need up to date stuff, you would go with another distro. If you are utterly incompetent, you would obviously choose ubuntu.
[08:10] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: however, that speed comes at the price of losing some functionality that the larger GNOME and KDE desktops offer
[08:10] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, hardly
[08:10] <TV-VCR> InfraRecorder keeps saying there are no CD/DVD devices
[08:10] <jsidhu2> usr13: -f gives the same results as the pastebin http://pastebin.com/m38314526
[08:10] <eck> betrion: i need to go to class, but maybe this can help you http://eklitzke.org/howto/livehdd.xhtml
[08:10] <TV-VCR> While I have two CD/DVD devices that both can burn discs
[08:10] <thesaint4444> bruenig: what is wrong with using dpkg? - phew, i am new to this but certainly not utterly incompetent....
[08:10] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: as you can see from the responses we're getting, everyone has different views on the subject
[08:11] <unimatrix9> the better distro is the one you use that works for what you use it for and play's well with your hardware!
[08:11] <TV-VCR> Help?!
[08:11] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, in terms of built in functionaly, xfce has more than gnome and less than kde. But anything can be supplemented with other apps
[08:11] <mnk> please can anyone tell me where the gutsy installer (upgrading from feisty) downloads the files?
[08:11] <Crozar> Megaqwerty: if i get xubuntu can i get compiz in it
[08:11] <Esteth> eck: Thanks for the help, a hard reset solved the problem
[08:11] <TV-VCR> ?
[08:11] <betrion> eck: thanks man apreciate it
[08:11] <GNine> ubuntu is sort of the entry package to linux. i say if you like tinkering . you wont stay ubuntu forever.  but ubuntu IS still the base.
[08:11] <freak124> Is there someone who knows why my partitions are invisible on the live cd
[08:11] <mnk> any help will be appreciated
[08:12] <thesaint4444> bruenig: what distro would you recommend ?
[08:12] <trappist> Crozar: if you're looking to choose a distro, ask some users of various distros why they've chosen the one they use.  the ones that sound the most like you are probably using the best distro for you.
[08:12] <TV-VCR> I need help
[08:12] <Megaqwerty> Crozar: unknown...sorry. I haven't tried running it in xubuntu. bruenig would probably be able to tell you
[08:12] <KOJV> Who wants me, a hard-core Windows user since 1993, migrate to Ubuntu?
[08:12] <trappist> err
[08:12] <TV-VCR> I really need help
[08:12] <softwork> i have a problem, Build with Tcl support........ : no , i need?
[08:12] <KOJV> Who wants to help me, a hard-core Windows user since 1993, migrate to Ubuntu?
[08:12] <TV-VCR> It won't burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:12] <Pici> !enter
[08:12] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:12] <usr13> TV-VCR: What is your question?
[08:12] <trappist> thesaint4444: if you're looking to choose a distro, ask some users of various distros why they've chosen the one they use.  the ones that sound the most like you are probably using the best distro for you.
[08:12] <TV-VCR> InfraRecorder won't burn an image
[08:12] <MrPink> doesn someone know where I can change the text color in the search inside the application "Rhythmbox Music Player" ?
[08:12] <Crozar> bruenig: is Xubuntu good ? i mean for a 2.4ghz laptop 32mb gfx and 256 ram
[08:12] <TV-VCR> .iso of Ubuntu
[08:12] <bruenig> Crozar, I am running beryl on xfce here, so compiz would work, but I don't know if ubuntu makes it really easy to do so
[08:12] <softwork> i have a problem, Build with Tcl support........ : no , i need??
[08:12] <Pici> TV-VCR: On Windows?
[08:13] <TV-VCR> XP SP2
[08:13] <unimatrix9> infrorecorder , thats windows, , dont have nero?
[08:13] <Pici> TV-VCR: You need to ask that in ##windows then, sorry.
[08:13] <Crozar> bruenig: so you downloaded and installed through fyda's guide in ubuntu-forums?
[08:13] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i install the JDK?
[08:13] <unimatrix9> or the likes?
[08:13] <TV-VCR> ty
[08:13] <trappist> Crozar: 256MB of ram is begging for an upgrade.  if I had that and wanted to use a *ubuntu, I'd go for xubuntu, which is lighter weight.
[08:13] <CoasterMaster> Cyber_Stalker, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:13] <usr13> What is InfraRecorder?
[08:13] <Joe_CoT> question: using rsync or something similar, is there a way to mirror files as placeholder files, but not the contents? as in, sync over all the files and permissions, but have the files be 0 bytes?
[08:13] <CoasterMaster> !info sun-java6-jdk | Cyber_Stalker
[08:13] <ubotu> cyber_stalker: sun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 9270 kB, installed size 31240 kB
[08:13] <unimatrix9> TV-VCR use nero
[08:13] <TV-VCR> It costs money
[08:13] <Crozar> bruenig: in synaptic u dont see the same information or app's that ubuntu default sees?
[08:13] <TV-VCR> Are there any other burners?
[08:14] <unimatrix9> one moment
[08:14] <usr13> TV-VCR: It sould be fairly easy, it is already an iso image, just burn it to CD
[08:14] <jsidhu2> when i do  apt-get -f install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cgi, i get http://pastebin.com/d78cfdfb7    how do i fix this problem?
[08:14] <ratpoison> TV-VCR other than what?
[08:14] <Crozar> trappist: im on laptop Toshiba Satellite 1955 S801 (( year 2002 ))
[08:14] <usr13> TV-VCR: What type of error do you get when you try.
[08:14] <TV-VCR> The program keeps saying no recorders availible
[08:14] <Cyber_Stalker> CoasterMaster: Need to get 9493kB of archives.
[08:14] <Pici> !windows | TV-VCR
[08:14] <ubotu> TV-VCR: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:14] <Cyber_Stalker> thats 9mb right?
[08:14] <Crozar> trappist: guess what 17 i nch screen lol
[08:14] <CoasterMaster> Cyber_Stalker, yeah, that's about 9 MB
[08:14] <unimatrix9> http://cdburnerxp.se/
[08:15] <usr13> TV-VCR: THen the application is not configured properly.
[08:15] <unimatrix9> try this , or google for some other freeware program
[08:15] <jsidhu2> imageburn is free
[08:15] <hetauma> is there anything equivaletn to math type for openoffice?
[08:15] <unimatrix9> TV-VCR program to try http://cdburnerxp.se/
[08:15] <Crozar> i might upgrade card to FX 128 they say it supported and ram up to 1Gig =D
[08:15] <j^2> hey all
[08:15] <TV-VCR> Well what do I configure
[08:15] <jsidhu2> http://www.imgburn.com/
[08:15] <GNine> ha!  i got one gigabyte RAM and 2.0 processor.  Xubuntu "flies" on it
[08:15] <DoYouKnow> ok, I have installed nspluginwrapper on ubuntu feisty 64-bit, I've ran it on libflashplayer.so, and I've copied the new libflashplayer.so and xpt to my mozilla-firefox plugins directory
[08:15] <DoYouKnow> what now?
[08:15] <Crozar> so i might be on ubuntu
[08:15] <DoYouKnow> is there some place where I can configure plugins?
[08:15] <unimatrix9> TV-VCR
[08:15] <unimatrix9> http://www.imgburn.com/
[08:15] <usr13> Probably not many of us here familiar with InfraRecorder.  We're just dumb 'ol linux users.
[08:15] <CoasterMaster> hetauma, there's OpenOffice Math: http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html
[08:15] <Crozar> GNine: it flies but how much stress is it to use "? is it  same as ubuntu
[08:16] <_Nessa_> Does being in another user account matter when installing a program?
[08:16] <hetauma> CoasterMaster, ty
[08:16] <GNine> technically speaking, yes
[08:16] <neverblue2> _Nessa_, you can always change this afterwords (permissions, owner)
[08:17] <GNine> it still uses some Gnome resources (read Gconf) but is no where near the system hog as Ubuntu
[08:17] <usr13> TV-VCR: Might just try re-insalling "InfraRecorder".  Or, just tinker with the configuration.  (I'm afraid we are not gonna be much help.)
[08:18] <TV-VCR> how do I use CDburner XP?
[08:18] <MrPink> does someone know where I can change the text color of the search inside the application "Rhythmbox Music Player" ? It has been changed do to a theme I installed... but the background inside the app is light and so is my fontcolor now... can anyone help ?
[08:18] <MrPink> I have the very same problem withint firefox, marked text is white and so is the background of the addressbar... can anyone help?
[08:18] <TV-VCR> well just burn an image
[08:19] <softwork> hi, good SSL library for pidgin
[08:19] <softwork> ?
[08:19] <usr13> TV-VCR: Yes.  If it has an option that says something like, "burn image to CD" - do that.
[08:19] <softwork> please
[08:19] <GNine> however, i couldnt "automatically" just upgrade to (Xubuntu) , you will still have Gnome .  manual uninstalling of Gnome resources must be performed and you must never get rid of Gconf and some data senstive (stuff) .  it is a little tricky to say the least
[08:19] <TV-VCR> but i need to burn a CD image
[08:19] <freak124> my partitions are visible in nautilus but not in the partition manager on the live cd, how is this possible?
[08:20] <usr13> TV-VCR: You alreday have the image, Right? -  just burn it to the CD.
[08:20] <TV-VCR> Just the .iso file? Or should I extract it first?
[08:20] <usr13> TV-VCR: NO
[08:20] <usr13> You do not have to extract
[08:20] <TV-VCR> NOk
[08:20] <TV-VCR> *ok
[08:20] <usr13> TV-VCR: Just burn the .iso image to CD
[08:20] <Crozar> is it good to install KDE on ubuntu?
[08:20] <graelb> Hey, so i've installed ntfs-3g, but it doesn't want to work on my internal drive...
[08:21] <graelb> well, it runs, but i can't write to it
[08:21] <KalEl> hi... i want to upgrade to Ubuntu Gusty 7.10 Beta, but if I update do I need to reinstall Ubuntu to get the final release version or can I download incrementally?
[08:21] <Crozar> why do u want to write on kde?
[08:21] <Crozar> KalEl: you can update straight away
[08:21] <Pici> !final | KalEl
[08:21] <GNine> ironically i used Infrarecorder successfully on a windows machine
[08:21] <ubotu> KalEl: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[08:22] <KalEl> Thanks
[08:22] <Crozar> KalEl: but carefull
[08:22] <KalEl> Second question is to update, do I need to download a CD?
[08:22] <Crozar> KalEl: if you have compiz already installed then dont update
[08:22] <Crozar> KalEl: no its like a normal update
[08:22] <TV-VCR> STUPID WRITER JUST RUINED MY DISK!!!
[08:22] <KalEl> Thanks... I don't have compiz
[08:22] <Crozar> KalEl: but takes about 20 - 40 minutes
[08:22] <KalEl> Ok
[08:22] <Pici> !gutsy | Crozar KalEl
[08:22] <ubotu> Crozar KalEl: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:23] <TV-VCR> I HATE THIS THING!!!
[08:23] <usr13> TV-VCR: Well try again, Try different software or settings.
[08:23] <TV-VCR> IT RUINED MY DISK
[08:23] <KalEl> Thanks got it
[08:23] <Crozar> add 1 more thiing on the msg of the day ( if u have compiz dont update )
[08:23] <usr13> TV-VCR: That makes 2 of us!
[08:23] <MrPink> heguru: You there by any chance ?
[08:23] <Pici> TV-VCR: 1) No need for caps. 2) I've already suggested you ask ##windows for help burning, this is a linux support channel
[08:24] <GNine> i ruined several disks b4 i was able to make a workable iso copy to cd-r
[08:24] <scguy318> TV-VCR: on Windows, I suggest CDBurnerXP or ISO Recorder
[08:24] <GNine> problem:  human error
[08:24] <scguy318> TV-VCR: the Psychocats guide on ISos should be helpful too
[08:24] <usr13> TV-VCR: "If at first you you don't succeed, try, try again."
[08:25] <usr13> scguy318: Nero works pretty well.
[08:25] <scguy318> usr13: but you have to pay for it ;)
[08:25] <GNine> f*** nero
[08:25] <GNine> infrarecorder will work just fine.
[08:26] <usr13>  http://www.nero7.org/?gclid=CJS6ooSp7o4CFRqWGgodATV3EA
[08:26] <GNine> you just have to firgure out why its not (for you).. on the other hand , the easy out IS to pick one program that'll work.
[08:26] <GNine> (i like tinkering tho)
[08:27] <usr13> It says " Free Software to download "
[08:27] <TV-VCR> I have message "You have added an ISO-file to the compilation. Do you want to burn a disk from this ISO-file?"
[08:27] <TV-VCR> Is this correct?
[08:27] <usr13> TV-VCR: Yes, that sounds correct.
[08:27] <KalEl> Oh the moment I opened update-manager it prompted me to upgrade :)
[08:27] <administrador> hello
[08:27] <TV-VCR> you sure? I don't want anothre ruin disk
[08:27] <administrador> I have a question
[08:27] <usr13> TV-VCR: No, I am not sure.
[08:28] <usr13> :)
[08:28] <TV-VCR> :(
[08:28] <Ax3> hey guys, i've been playing with vnc over ssh for about an hour now, and I can't seem to get my Windows XP machine to connect to a vnc session. any pointers?
[08:28] <usr13> But I"m pretty sure.
[08:28] <GNine> all you need is in your "Actions" menu (on infrarecorder)
[08:28] <GNine> one option.. and select you iso.
[08:28] <hetauma> I'm trying to edit an equation on a .doc written in M$office with open office and I get "Error activating object. General OLE error" any ideas ?
[08:28] <eggman> I am using eclipse in UBUNTU
[08:28] <usr13> GIve me your address and I'll send you 30cents if it ruins another disk.
[08:28] <eggman> but i would like to install  a C plugin, how to do it?
[08:29] <TV-VCR> should I use  Disc at Once or Session at Once
[08:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: What do you want to do? Burn an ISO image to a CD?
[08:29] <TV-VCR> yes
[08:29] <TV-VCR> Ubuntu
[08:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Which software are you using to do this?
[08:29] <TV-VCR> CDBurnerXP
[08:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: So, you are in Windoze?
[08:30] <GNine> the program is self explanatory , any simpler than that would be mind control.
[08:30] <TV-VCR> XP SP2
[08:30] <TV-VCR> pro
[08:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Do you have Nero?
[08:30] <TV-VCR> no
[08:30] <usr13> GNine: Yes, TV-VCR  is a ms windows user that is trying to break out of his shell!
[08:31] <TV-VCR> :)
[08:31] <usr13> We must help him!
[08:31] <GNine> hmm.. still..  you are dealing with a puter .. not a .. VCR. (which is technially still a computer)
[08:32] <GNine> my final word. deal wItH iT
[08:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Select "Disc at once"
[08:32] <TV-VCR> actually I use dual boot of vista and ubuntu but ubuntu is main OS. Vista is present because many games are only for windows
[08:32] <Pici> TV-VCR: Please /join ##windows   As I have said *many* times, they will be able to help you much faster than we will.
[08:32] <TV-VCR> Ok I select Disc as once
[08:32] <TV-VCR> it selected. now what?
[08:32] <escuter> I need to know how to find out what the hell my videocard is
[08:33] <escuter> lspci says 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[08:33] <TV-VCR> mine is 8800Ultra
[08:33] <TV-VCR> so now i click burn?
[08:33] <gorski> can fiesty 32-bit distro work on a 64-bit mashine?
[08:33] <escuter> gorski: yes
[08:33] <usr13> TV-VCR: Yea, give it a shot!
[08:34] <TV-VCR> but you not sure
[08:34] <gorski> ok, tnx
[08:34] <stdin> TV-VCR: see http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Downloading_and_Burning_an_Ubuntu_ISO  for instructions
[08:34] <TV-VCR> i have gone there
[08:34] <TV-VCR> not help
[08:34] <neverblue2> !enter
[08:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:34] <GNine> its like saying 24bit is just as good as 32bit colors.  and still you wont notice the difference
[08:34] <TV-VCR> will it work
[08:35] <usr13> TV-VCR: Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing.
[08:35] <TV-VCR> goldenhawk seems to know
[08:35] <frostburn> GNine, they are the same colors
[08:35] <KOJV> Okay, first question... if I need to reinstall Windows on the primary slave and thus must reinstate grub/lilo to load Ubuntu from the slave drive... how do I go about?
[08:36] <Pici> !grub | KOJV
[08:36] <ubotu> KOJV: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:36] <n4nobit> ubotu bug -- when I message ubotu with ffs I get: ''Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly''
[08:36] <esperegu> anybody knows if it is possible to use some kind of update server so clients will use one client to update to and one can put the files on the specific clients manually also?
[08:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Check this out - http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/09/11/how-to-burn-an-iso-file-in-windows/
[08:36] <GNine> funny thing (i have said this b4) i dont have infrarecorder on my linux machine. i runned that on windblows.
[08:36] <usr13> KOJV: grub install
[08:36] <jones> Dae pessoal
[08:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> GNine: Its Winblows!
[08:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> GNine: :P
[08:37] <GNine> :-P
[08:37] <TV-VCR> lol
[08:37] <jones> #ubuntu-br
[08:37] <GNine> frostburn, read my sentence again
[08:38] <MrPink> lol wind does blow ;)
[08:38] <GNine> windblows thru the windows
[08:38] <KOJV> Thank you Pici, usr13.
[08:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> MrPink: Yes it sure does! lol
[08:38] <usr13> KOJV: grub-install
[08:38] <frostburn> GNine, with 32 bit color, there's still only 24 bits devoted to color.  it's still the same colors
[08:38] <graelb> you can install linux... and still use the windows bootloader, right?
[08:39] <MrPink> graelb yes...
[08:39] <usr13> man grub-install
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> graelb: Yes, but why?
[08:39] <KOJV> I'll be back with more questions after installing Ubuntu...
[08:39] <usr13> graelb: You can, but it's not recommended
[08:39] <KOJV> Btw can anyone recommend a mIRCish client for Ubuntu?
[08:39] <GNine> frostburn, hence my reference to the point that "you still wont notice the difference"
[08:39] <MrPink> but when you install ubuntu it automatically installs grub (a linux bootloader,which has an extra entry for previously installed windows)
[08:39] <usr13> grub or lilo would be easier.
[08:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> KOJV: xchat
[08:39] <graelb> Well, i'm currently running Xubuntu live off a flash drive, and i guess i should just install it to the flashdrive instead
[08:39] <frostburn> GNine, i must have missed the beginning of the conversation
[08:39] <graelb> but when the flashdrive isnt' plugged in, i still want to be able to boot to windows
[08:40] <MrPink> KOJV I am using a firefox plugin "Chatzilla" which is fine for me, for now ;)
[08:40] <graelb> I'm just having issues with xorg.conf and keeping settings, even thougth i'm running in persistant
[08:40] <MrPink> graelb as I said you can... it has a "Windows" entry
[08:40] <graham_> Hello. I just reinstalled Ubuntu, but now when I go to Add Applications all the choices are not downloadable
[08:40] <Crozar> MrPink: u can use a bette rirc
[08:40] <Naxa> hi. i'm trying to reach my home Kubuntu 7.04 computer with ssh, but it says connection refused. it's almost a default config,
[08:40] <Naxa> my mother ways for my orders... what should i tell her to do?
[08:41] <gOLdenHaWK3D> graham_: enable the repositories
[08:41] <graelb> Well... is there a better way to do what i want to do there?
[08:41] <Crozar> MrPink: Xchat Gnome IRC is the best client so far
[08:41] <graham_> I'm trying, it won't allow me
[08:41] <Evanlec> Naxa, u got to open the port to your computer for SSH
[08:41] <neverblue2> when I ssh into another box, using the -X flag, when I start up firefox, it runs the local, not the remote, as the bookmarks, history, etc are the same.  Can I use ssh to run firefox on the remote box, locally?
[08:41] <usser> Naxa setup port forwarding
[08:41] <gOLdenHaWK3D> graham_: change the kernel to generic
[08:41] <usr13> Naxa: Tell her to do: apt-get install openssh
[08:41] <Evanlec> Crozar, XChat is the best client so far...xchat gnome is xchat with no options
[08:41] <graham_> How do I do that?
[08:41] <usr13> Naxa: Tell her to do: sudo  apt-get install openssh
[08:41] <Crozar> Evanlec: what you mean by options?
[08:42] <Planet-X> i changed my motherboard and now my sound doesn't work after a reinstall of 7.04?
[08:42] <Naxa> (usr13): will this solve everything? :) ok I Try!
[08:42] <MrPink> Crozar Whats the big difference? I am chatting, am I not? :-P
[08:42] <graelb> I'm afraid of setting the mbr, then losing it somehow. i've had issues with that before, and had to reformat because i didn't know how to fix just the mbr to boot back to windows
[08:42] <Evanlec> Crozar, like...any options beyond the most simple
[08:42] <MrPink> !sound Planet-X
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound planet-x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <MrPink> !audio
[08:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:42] <Planet-X> try that site?
[08:42] <Planet-X> or that one
[08:42] <MrPink> the 2. one ;)
[08:42] <usr13> Naxa: Tell her to do: sudo  apt-get install openssh-server
[08:42] <Crozar> MrPink Evanlec : so cant you fade talkers and contrast on NowSpeaking? your talking by that extreme on options?
[08:42] <usr13> Correction ^^^
[08:42] <Planet-X> k :)
[08:43] <Naxa> (usr13): trying
[08:43] <MrPink> Crozar No.... but do I want to ?? ;)
[08:43] <Crozar> Evanlec: for example now i see the typings but when u msg me all the rest will fade and urz will be highlighted and so i feel only 2 people is in chat
[08:44] <graham_> How do I change the Ubuntu kernel to generic?
[08:44] <Crozar> who doesnt want flexibility
[08:44] <neverblue2> when I ssh into another box, using the -X flag, when I start up firefox, it runs the local, not the remote, as the bookmarks, history, etc are the same.  Can I use ssh to run firefox on the remote box, locally?
[08:45] <Evanlec> Crozar, well i donno about that option but...i know that xchat gnome was irritating, no userlist even
[08:45] <kjhjkg> how can i activate ungrab window wave?? (
[08:45] <usr13> neverblue2: If I understand your question properly, I would say yes
[08:45] <Crozar> for instance my girl is around the house with bikini's thats flexibility , or so you are not concerned =p
[08:45] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:45] <kjhjkg> in compiz fusion
[08:45] <kjhjkg> hi
[08:45] <Crozar> Evanlec: theyr is a user list its just you didnt know how to use it
[08:45] <Ace2016> anyone know if ubuntu 7.10 will have an xcb enabled xorg?
[08:46] <neverblue2> usr13, then how would you do it :)
[08:46] <Evanlec> Crozar, i guess, i just prefer regular xchat without any of the config stripped out
[08:46] <bieb> Croz... if she is bikini-ing around the house.. she needs to turn on the web cam.. :)
[08:46] <Crozar> Evanlec: my configs are indicated
[08:46] <threethirty> ! gusty
[08:46] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[08:47] <threethirty> ! gustsy
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gustsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <llivavin> Can someone help me out in a Pm for a few?
[08:47] <threethirty> ! gutsy
[08:47] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:47] <usr13>  neverblue2 just issue command firefox
[08:47] <Crozar> threethirty: !gust
[08:47] <Crozar> !gusty
[08:47] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[08:47] <Crozar> !gutsy
[08:47] <Crozar> omg
[08:47] <Pici> Crozar: look up 5 lines.
[08:47] <neverblue2> usr13, if you re-read what I wrote, you will see that I have attempted that already, but its running with local info, not remote info
[08:47] <Crozar> go to /j #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <Crozar> Pici: ur still alive
[08:48] <usr13>  neverblue2 If it's already running, kill it.  and then start it again.
[08:48] <cj_> hi
[08:48] <usr13> neverblue2: killall firefox
[08:48] <Crozar> Pici: i have 8 questions no body is botherd to help me
[08:49] <Pooky> if someone wanted to turn a client install into a server install, is it relatively straightforward?
[08:49] <cj_> whats the most recent version of gutsy?
[08:49] <neverblue2> usr13, im sure you dont understand my question, but thanks for trying :D
[08:49] <Pici> cj_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:49] <Ace2016> killall -9 firefox
[08:49] <usr13> neverblue2: or ps aux |grep firefox     and then   kill ####  (where ### is firefox pid#)
[08:49] <Pici> Crozar: Just be patient.
[08:50] <usr13> neverblue2: What your saying is that it's comming up on the remote terminal?
[08:50] <usr13> neverblue2: ..when you issue command via ssh terminal?
[08:50] <erichj> neverblue, or you can go to System->Administration->System Monitor then click the processes tab and right click on the firefox process and kill it
[08:50] <nazgul> evening. I just removed some packages with synaptic but i removed one that is responsible for preview icons (images/movies). i do not recall. what package affests nautilus preview icons?
[08:50] <Crozar> Pici: i want to know if ATI x1800 can be tweaked for full use preformance in ubuntu
[08:51] <erichj> neverblue, sorry wasn't for you
[08:51] <Crozar> in compiz for instance
[08:51] <Pici> Crozar: I have no idea, honestly.
[08:51] <Crozar> Pici: i had questions it just faded away lo
[08:51] <neverblue2> usr13, no
[08:51] <MrPink> heguru: dumdididum... ;)
[08:52] <usr13> neverblue2:   WHat are you saying then.  (Do not understand.)
[08:52] <ganesh> can any 1 help me how to configure internet connection setting..?i hav just installed ubuntu..
[08:52] <Crozar> helpp
[08:52] <neverblue2> usr13, yes, I said, you dont understand my question
[08:53] <llivavin> Can someone help me with my computer freezing issue?
[08:53] <usr13> neverblue2: Then explain your question.
[08:53] <usser> ganesh whats the problem? do u use wireless or wired?
[08:53] <Crozar> llivavin: computer freezing on wh ich ubuntu version:/
[08:53] <Naxa> (usr13): thank you, it helped!!!
[08:53] <Naxa> bye!
[08:53] <usr13> neverblue2: You are tying to run firefox on a remote machine via ssh.  Right?
[08:53] <neverblue2> running the remote profile on the remote firefox, rather than the local profile, when it opens
[08:53] <Naxa> oh, another question came up! :)
[08:54] <usr13> neverblue2: Now, do you want the firefox window to come up on your monitor, or the remote monitor?
[08:54] <Crozar> llivavin: which ubuntu is freezing?
[08:54] <Naxa> I used to use no-ip.org, it's a dynamic dns host! there is a source for it's client, but how could i make it start whenever the computer starts up?
[08:54] <ganesh> usser:i use wired connection fixed ip address,adsl2+modem
[08:54] <olimpico>  I have problems writing Data DVDs, it worked perfectly well for the last years, but since the last k3b update, when I burn data DVDs I can't open them under windows, only under Linux. I did change the setup File system to Linux + Windows and also tried DOS compatibility. But nothing works. Never the less I can see the data under Linux.}
[08:54] <Crozar> llivavin: ubuntu 6.06 or 7.3 or 7.10
[08:54] <Naxa> or is there any a dynamic dns client supported un ubuntu?
[08:54] <usr13> neverblue2: It will run the profile on the remote computer.
[08:55] <Crozar> Naxa: you have a dns problem?
[08:55] <neverblue2> usr13, im not sure you have ever tried, but believe what you 'think' is true :)
[08:55] <KOJV> Are newer versions of Ubuntu just installed on top of the old one?
[08:55] <usr13> neverblue2: and the only way I know to change that is to upload your profile to that remote computer.
[08:55] <Crozar> KOJV: some yes like forexample Ubuntu 7.03 Feisty can be updated to Gusty
[08:56] <olimpico> Please help!!
[08:56] <Crozar> olimpico: what is it?
[08:56] <Naxa> (Crozar): I have a dynamic dns... i used to use a client program that always started with the computer, registered the new ip on no-ip.com and then no-ip.com attached my new ip to my registered address, naxa.zapto.org
[08:56] <ganesh> usser:i am not able to connect to internet..i m chatting now using windows
[08:56] <usser> ganesh ok adls connected via ethernet cable or usb?
[08:56] <Naxa> (Crozar): i meant dynamic IP by dyn.dns. :)
[08:56] <Crozar> Naxa: you mean dyndns
[08:57] <usr13> Naxa: Yes there is  dynamic dns client software available for Linux
[08:57] <Crozar> Naxa: so you want it to update frequently on demand by every ip change>/
[08:57] <Crozar> Naxa: usr13 will help you out ;)
[08:58] <Naxa> (usr13): which is that? :)
[08:58] <usser> ganesh what is the model of your adsl modem, is it connected to your ubuntu pc?
[08:58] <spuddogg_> Does anyone here know the general syntax of pipeopen() ?  I need to return a value from grep to a variable.  Any help?
[08:58] <usr13> Naxa: I've successfully use dyndns.org but do not have enough experience to walk you through it.
[08:59] <Naxa> (usr13): ok. then how can i make a script run on startup?
[08:59] <usser> spudDogg why dont u use ` ` operator
[08:59] <usr13> I could muddle through it on my own, but could not give step-by-step instructions off the top of my head.
[08:59] <attackdecay> anybody ever have problems with 'pthreads' when compiling source that depends on them?
[08:59] <usser> spudDogg for instance G=`ls | grep abc`
[08:59] <llivavin> Who ever asked what version of ubuntu im using im using 7.04
[08:59] <llivavin> >.>
[08:59] <ganesh> usser:i dont usser 220BXI
[09:00] <llivavin> it froze up again on me
[09:00] <escuter> excuse me
[09:00] <escuter> I was looking for the right drivers
[09:00] <ganesh> usser: 220BXI
[09:00] <usr13> Naxa: But, it isn't that difficult.
[09:00] <escuter> changed them
[09:00] <escuter> restarted X
[09:00] <Pici> !enter
[09:00] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:00] <escuter> worked fine
[09:00] <escuter> sorry
[09:01] <escuter> ok, so what's the xorg autoconfiguration command again?
[09:01] <llivavin> So can someone help me with my freezing problem >.>
[09:01] <Naxa> (usr13): ok, i'll try and figure it out from the page
[09:01] <escuter> because I blew it
[09:01] <Black> boa tarde
[09:01] <escuter> !xorg
[09:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:01] <Black> algum brasileiro por ai ?
[09:01] <usser> ganesh does it have an ethernet port?
[09:02] <usr13> dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[09:02] <escuter> usr13: thanks
[09:02] <ganesh> usser:ya ..its connected using ethernet port
[09:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ganesh: have you tried running the command sudo pppoeconf ????
[09:03] <usser> ganesh nice open up console and do ifconfig and pastebin the output
[09:03] <usser> !pastebin | ganesh
[09:03] <ubotu> ganesh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <tsukasa> okay how do i use cvs
[09:03] <tsukasa> this is so confusing.
[09:03] <usr13> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <escuter> usr13: it tells me "xorg.conf is not installed"
[09:03] <tsukasa> i just want to checkout a copy of this code
[09:03] <usr13> correction ^^^
[09:03] <escuter> oh, right
[09:03] <usr13> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:03] <Pici> tsukasa: svn co svn://path.com/to/code
[09:04] <cyrano> Hi. This is my issue. I think i don't have support for wma files. At least rhtythmbox and songbird won't recognise wma files in my music folder and add them to the library. please help
[09:04] <spiderpig> cyrano instal mplayer
[09:04] <tsukasa> Pici:  i dont think the cvs repo is that recent
[09:04] <llivavin> Can someone help me with my freezing problem in a PM?
[09:04] <spiderpig> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:04] <tsukasa> Pici: :pserver:anonymous@cvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/freetype
[09:05] <tsukasa> Pici:  i cant use svn on that can i?
[09:05] <spiderpig> cyrano works for me in mplayer
[09:05] <usr13> cyrano: You might try easy ubuntu
[09:05] <cyrano> i can play any other files... DVD, MP3, divx, Waw and so on
[09:05] <ganesh> usser:i lltry
[09:05] <attackdecay> pthreads, anyone?
[09:05] <usr13> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:05] <spiderpig> cyrano im telling you instal mplayer
[09:05] <Pici> tsukasa: sure, why not? try svn co <insert site here>
[09:05] <kersinc07> #ubuntu-es
[09:05] <cyrano> i think what i have installed is the ubuntu-restricted-formats package with apt-get
[09:06] <usr13> cyrano: see:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[09:06] <tsukasa> Pici:  how do i specify a module name? its saying no repository found
[09:07] <usr13> cyrano: install codecs and then   install mplayer
[09:07] <ProtoX29A> hi
[09:07] <escuter> usr13: it's asking me stuff like what device do I want to use for my mouse, that doesn't seem very "automatic" =P
[09:07] <Pici> tsukasa: I'm not sure, sorry :(
[09:07] <cyrano> i have mplayer installed... but i would like them in rhythmbox library
[09:07] <usser> cyrano what format u want to play?
[09:07] <usr13>  escuter: what is your question?
[09:07] <llivavin> Can someone help me with my freezing problem?
[09:08] <escuter> usr13: is there a way to make ubuntu what it did at install time and put things back?
[09:08] <attackdecay> anyone know if there's a channel more devoted to compiling and dev?
[09:08] <Tommy> Hello, I currently have ubuntu 7.04 running on a IBM Thinkpad T30. I am trying to get my wireless internet card working properly, Belkin F5D7011 v1212.  I have installed it using ndiswrapper and when I do a list it says present, However it still does not light up.  I read in the forums of people having success and I follow their steps but I can't seem to get it to work.
[09:08] <attackdecay> but for users....
[09:08] <usr13>  escuter: Oh, well, no, it is not automatic, it will ask you some questions.
[09:08] <usr13>  escuter: sorry
[09:08] <llivavin> Can someone help me with my freezing problem?
[09:09] <kersinc0> #ubuntu-es
[09:09] <usr13>  escuter: I woud first need to know what changed.
[09:09] <ProtoX29A> does ubuntu support ntfs_
[09:09] <brobostigon> yes
[09:09] <usr13>  escuter: or what did the changing.
[09:09] <brobostigon> ntfs-3g
[09:09] <Unicode> HI, who can tell me how I can install linuxdc++ on Ubuntu ??
[09:10] <hellonull> ProtoX29A: read-only for now in official releases, gutsy supports ntfs writing
[09:10] <cyrano> Rhythmbox doewsnt recognize mye wma files... i dont find them in the library at least. And easy ubuntu is for dapper/edgy. I'm on gutsy
[09:10] <Pici> !gutsy | cyrano
[09:10] <ubotu> cyrano: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:10] <slackern> !info linuxdcpp
[09:10] <ubotu> Package linuxdcpp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:11] <hetauma> hellonull, really gutsy beta supports ntfs write by default
[09:11] <vice> where i can find information about 802.11 pci wifi cards working under ubuntu?
[09:11] <escuter> usr13: ok, done. I changed the video drivers from vesa to via, changing back didnt work, but now it's ok
[09:11] <vice> where i can find information about 802.11N pci wifi cards working under ubuntu?
[09:11] <Unicode> !info linuxdcpp
[09:11] <Unicode> ??
[09:11] <ubotu> Package linuxdcpp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:11] <escuter> I'm affraid I f**d up the keyboard, but that's easier
[09:11] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[09:11] <Tommy> vice , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported#head-cae680340f29d650f4ad18d3b55672530e794692
[09:12] <slackern> Unicode: i know it's available on 7.10 (Gutsy) in the universe repos
[09:12] <Unicode> ok :)) thanks :)
[09:12] <TexJoachim> any idea how to get the photos of a motorola razr v3 off the mobile via usb connection?
[09:12] <llivavin> Can someone help me with my freezing problem?
[09:12] <hellonull> hetauma: i know, but its still beta (notice how i said read-only in "official" releases thus far)
[09:12] <cyrano> I know what gutsy is... But where can i find wma codecs then?
[09:12] <usser> Tex
[09:13] <cyrano> i tried to play it in mplayer... didnt work
[09:13] <usser> TexJoachim it should get detected automatically
[09:13] <Unicode> one more question how I can watch .mkv video ??
[09:13] <TexJoachim> usser: it is detected, but as a phone, not as a "disk":  drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.25:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[09:13] <llivavin> Unicode:
[09:13] <llivavin> you need to codecs
[09:14] <usser> cyrano http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413624
[09:14] <llivavin> that the .mkv has in it.
[09:14] <apollo2011> I just got back from school and came to my computer, which has been on since yesterday, and discovered that there were several indications that my /home partition was full. Sure enough, it is absolutely full. I cleaned up that partition a couple of days ago, removing several GB of data, and nothing I did since then could have used up that space (it hasn't been close to full anyway). Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can maybe see what files ha
[09:14] <apollo2011> ve been created/modified in the last few hours/days or what the largest files are on the drive?
[09:14] <Unicode> what codecs
[09:14] <Unicode> ??
[09:14] <Unicode> I try VLC but it is not work
[09:14] <llivavin> Unicode: Go get mplayer
[09:14] <llivavin> Never EVER EVER use VLC
[09:15] <freak124> does someone know why nautilus can see my partitions and the installation partition manager on the live cd can't?
[09:15] <KalEl> hi i have an amd64... should i switch to the 64-bit version of Ubuntu? will there be any negative side effects if i do?
[09:15] <Pici> llivavin: why?
[09:15] <Unicode> :))
[09:15] <llivavin> Its the worst media player ever next to WMP
[09:15] <llivavin> thats why.
[09:15] <freak124> anyone?
[09:15] <Pici> llivavin: That may be your opinion fut there are many people who stand by it.
[09:15] <cyrano> usser: that doesn't say anything about wma though...?
[09:16] <Unicode> I try it , and it not work too :)
[09:16] <yoshx> hello
[09:16] <TV-VCR> it not work!
[09:16] <usser> cyrano scroll down to the part about dvd playback and w32codec
[09:16] <usser> s
[09:16] <llivavin> Can i get some help with my freezing problem...?
[09:16] <TV-VCR> memtest and disk check come back ok but it not install
[09:16] <julian2495322> how do u save a desktop session?
[09:16] <TV-VCR> i select first option and it work for a bit and then after a bunch of wierd hex stuff it freezes
[09:17] <Tommy> Is anyone able to help?
[09:17] <llivavin> Can anyone help me with my freezing problem?
[09:17] <cyrano> Usser: these are the ones to install for wma?
[09:17] <usser> cyrano yep
[09:17] <brobostigon> what the freezing roblem
[09:18] <Pici> apollo2011: Use the graphical disk map.  baobab is the executable name.
[09:19] <Pici> !ask | llivavin
[09:19] <ubotu> llivavin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:19] <julian2495322> how do u save a session
[09:19] <cyrano> does medibuntu have a gutsy repository? in that case can i just change feisty with gutsy?
[09:20] <zer0x`> would i be able to run compiz with kubuntu 7.10 with a geforce fx 5200 256 mb graphics card?
[09:20] <Pici> Everyone: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[09:20] <Sp4rKy> cyrano: you can
[09:20] <radioman_> Pici, it will work
[09:20] <jimcooncat> what problems am I likely to experience if I move to AMD64 Feisty?
[09:20] <graham_> I cannot use Add Applications in Ubuntu. Everytime I try to update the Repositories, it won't work
[09:21] <Tommy> Hello, I currently have ubuntu 7.04 running on a IBM Thinkpad T30. I am trying to get my wireless internet card working properly, Belkin F5D7011 v1212.  I have installed it using ndiswrapper and when I do a list it says present, However it still does not light up.  I read in some forums of people having success and I follow their steps but I can't seem to get it to work.
[09:21] <Pici> jimcooncat: Difficult to get java and flash to work.  There are few closed implementations of proprietary software for 64bits.
[09:22] <jimcooncat> Pici -- are there usable workarounds for these issues?
[09:22] <Pici> jimcooncat: There are.
[09:22] <TV-VCR> help????????????????
[09:22] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i open a rar on linux?
[09:22] <Cyber_Stalker> !rar
[09:22] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:23] <Cyber_Stalker> !info unrar-free
[09:23] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:23] <Naxa> usr13: thanks, everything is fine
[09:23] <TV-VCR> ????????????????
[09:24] <jimcooncat> Pici: Thanks. If it's just those two then it'll be ok for me to do the work, rather than having to support two architectures.
[09:24] <TV-VCR> ubuntu not install
[09:24] <TV-VCR> help
[09:24] <apollo2011> thanks Pici, thats the type of utility I had in mind
[09:25] <TV-VCR> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:25] <Tommy> Anyone know any other tricks to get wireless cards to work
[09:25] <Pici> !patience | TV-VCR
[09:25] <ubotu> TV-VCR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:25] <phaedra> !patience | TV-VCR
[09:26] <r0bby> /jj/jj
[09:26] <TV-VCR> that not helping! i need help it not start
[09:26] <r0bby> er
[09:26] <r0bby> TV-VCR: be patient.
[09:26] <TV-VCR> but i need help
[09:26] <Flannel> TV-VCR: without more infromation, we can't really help.   but, just follow these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:26] <r0bby> !wireless | TV-VCR
[09:26] <ubotu> TV-VCR: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <r0bby> read that?
[09:26] <Flannel> r0bby: You meant Tommy
[09:26] <TV-VCR> its not internet!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:27] <TV-VCR> it wont install !!!!!!!
[09:27] <r0bby> Tommy: read that
[09:27] <Tommy> Yea
[09:27] <TV-VCR> oh
[09:27] <TV-VCR> still ned help!
[09:27] <Flannel> !doesntwork | TV-VCR
[09:27] <maxjohansson> I need some help too
[09:27] <ubotu> TV-VCR: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:27] <r0bby> TV-VCR: okay what's going on?
[09:27] <thehollowwithin> can anyone help me with my psp
[09:28] <TV-VCR> read oabove
[09:28] <r0bby> Be as specific as humanly possible
[09:28] <Fedman> How can i change from blackdown to sun jre?
[09:28] <r0bby> !JAVA
[09:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:28] <TV-VCR> i make cd and put it in drive. computer boots from CD
[09:28] <maxjohansson> My sound isn't working.
[09:28] <r0bby>  Fedman ^^
[09:28] <vulcanius> Fedman: do you have both installed?
[09:28] <vulcanius> /nickserv identify temporary
[09:28] <TV-VCR> memtest and disk check come back ok
[09:28] <vulcanius> hrm..
[09:28] <Fedman> vulcanius: yes
[09:28] <r0bby> vulcanius: change that ASAP ;)
[09:28] <Tommy> r0bby, I have read that and followed those steps.
[09:28] <thehollowwithin> can anyone help me with my psp
[09:29] <jshriver> Is there a way to have sendmail dump it's queue to a backup file? so I can clear it
[09:29] <vulcanius> hahahaha
[09:29] <TV-VCR> i begin to install it and it freeze after lots of hex
[09:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: whats the problem?
[09:29] <TV-VCR> those are detail!
[09:29] <Fedman> r0bby: thx
[09:29] <r0bby> no problem.
[09:29] <thehollowwithin> can anyone help me with my psp
[09:29] <TV-VCR> !patience
[09:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: what help you want?
[09:29] <phaedra> TV-VCR,  Is this the desktop or alternate cde?
[09:29] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:30] <TV-VCR> huh?
[09:30] <phaedra> cd*
[09:30] <thehollowwithin> convertion and transfer
[09:30] <kazim59> when do we see  mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root' on booting? what can be wrong?
[09:30] <vulcanius> and that is why you don't use gaim for irc
[09:30] <JRsup1> !aiw
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aiw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <TV-VCR> i am install from cd
[09:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: you need the alternate install disc.
[09:30] <apollo2011> Pici: As baobab shows, ~/.beagle/Log is now the largest directory, containing the logs for the last few days ranging in size from 2.4GB to 4GB and totalling 19.4GB :-S
[09:30] <TV-VCR> ?
[09:31] <julian2495322> how do you save a session to bring it back up at next boot
[09:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: do you have the usb cable?
[09:31] <vulcanius> Fedman, if you have both installed you can use "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to change from one to the other
[09:31] <thehollowwithin> yea
[09:31] <maxjohansson> My sound isn't working, anyone have some help to share?
[09:31] <phaedra> TV-VCR, I've always had trouble with the live version use the alternate install cd.
[09:31] <TV-VCR> where is that
[09:31] <JRsup1> has anyone in here ever gotten an ATI all-in-wonder to work with ubuntu?  I have seen questions about them online, but I can't get far enough to make it work at all.  It just locks up the whole system
[09:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: Then whats the problem? just connect it to one of ur usb ports. Ubuntu will automount your psp
[09:31] <Fedman> vulcanius thx that was the command I needed :)
[09:31] <phaedra> TV-VCR, Same place you dl'd the live cd.
[09:31] <yaron> anyone else having isssues with msn in gaim?
[09:32] <TV-VCR> i dont remember url
[09:32] <vulcanius> Fedman, n
[09:32] <vulcanius> Fedman, np*
[09:32] <thehollowwithin> i want to know how to convert video for it and transfer them
[09:32] <Tommy> yaron, do you have the latest version of pidgin 2.2.1 ?
[09:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: what firmware do you have?
[09:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: cfw?
[09:32] <r0bby> Tommy: not available for feisty, you have to download and compile it yourself
[09:32] <phaedra> TV-VCR, Go to the ubuntu site.  there's lots of mirrors there...
[09:32] <tsukasa> can someone give me a command to copy the last 200mb of this text file off into another text file
[09:32] <yaron> Tommy, 2.0.0beta6
[09:33] <TV-VCR> waht about install.exe
[09:33] <Tommy> r0bby, are you talking about pidgin ?
[09:33] <r0bby> http://pidgin.im
[09:33] <r0bby> Tommy: yes.
[09:33] <yaron> Tommy, when i dpkg -l |grep pidgin i don't get anything
[09:33] <wastrel> tsukasa: man tail
[09:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: you need to check this out - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP
[09:33] <maxjohansson> Does anyone know how to install Realtek high definition audio driver?
[09:33] <gOLdenHaWK3D> thehollowwithin: this will help you out.
[09:33] <yaron> Tommy, btw, thanks for helping.
[09:33] <tracy_> When I try to copy a folder I get this message for every file in it. cp: cannot create regular file `/media/MY CRUZER/ripped/Stephen E. Lucas/The Art of Public Speaking (disc 1)/02 - Chapter 01-02: Similarities Between Public Speaking and Conversation.mp3': Invalid argument
[09:34] <Tommy> Oh, well there has been a recent release regarding msn.
[09:34] <Tommy> No problem
[09:34] <r0bby> yaron: if you want to get the latest pidgin, go to http://pidigin.im and download it; note you will need to have its dependencies installed.
[09:34] <yaron> Tommy, i'm using feisty
[09:34] <pike__> yaron: id think maybe tail -c 200 file > newfile  or somesuch
[09:34] <drewzf> Woops, sorry about that
[09:34] <tracy_> is it something with the file name?
[09:34] <riaal> what is the easiest way to encrypt something like a folder in ubuntu?
[09:34] <drewzf> Anyone know where automatix ran off to?
[09:34] <vulcanius> yaron, the command you're looking for is split
[09:35] <pike__> split will split the whole file though no?
[09:35] <TV-VCR> install.exe?
[09:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: what is that?
[09:35] <yaron> pike_, why's that?
[09:35] <TV-VCR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[09:35] <yaron> vulcanius, split?
[09:35] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: wait..
[09:35] <tracy_> please help :D I have class b4 long and I need to get these files on a key drive bad.
[09:36] <drewzf> wow, install.exe is a great freaking idea.
[09:36] <Planet-X> ok
[09:36] <riaal> noone? easiest way of encrypting a folder?
[09:36] <drewzf> Finally someone thinks logically in the realm of operating systems.
[09:36] <brobostigon> encfs
[09:36] <Planet-X> MrPink: that didn't help me much, still no sound. I am 100% sure the connector for the motherboard is on right, it can go on only 1 way
[09:36] <vulcanius> pike_, yes but thats probably the easiest way to do it
[09:36] <brobostigon> although i have never tried it
[09:36] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: you need this - http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[09:36] <hellonull> tracy_: i woudl suggest shortening the file names
[09:36] <usser> riaal gpg
[09:36] <riaal> usser, I will have a look, thanks
[09:36] <vulcanius> yaron, "split -b 200 m" should split the file into 200MB chunks
[09:37] <TV-VCR> but i do not want to format or partition my disk because of possible data loss!
[09:37] <usser> riaal its not particularly for that, but thats the only one i know
[09:37] <yaron> vulcanius, i think you're confusing me with another person
[09:37] <tracy_> hellonull, that would take forever :) it is 6 folders with around 15-20 files each
[09:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: then where will you install Ubuntu to?
[09:37] <TV-VCR> my computer
[09:37] <tracy_> linux can't handle the filenames?
[09:37] <yaron> vulcanius, i'm the one who has gaim issues
[09:37] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: lol
[09:37] <vulcanius> yaron, haha, yeha your right
[09:37] <Planet-X> anyone care to help me figure out my sound problem.
[09:37] <vulcanius> yaron, that was meant for tsukasa
[09:37] <TV-VCR> ive never format or partition before
[09:37] <Planet-X> !audio
[09:37] <vulcanius> yaron, what issues are you having?
[09:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:38] <TV-VCR> and i have lots of sensitive data
[09:38] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: you need to have a seperate empty partition then
[09:38] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, then back up all of your data
[09:38] <adam__> ya planet x install automatix then install yur sound drivers -- only works if ur using an ati card
[09:38] <adam__> wtf
[09:38] <hellonull> tracy_: im not too familiar with what linux can and can't handle regarding filenames, but one good thing to try would be to shorten it
[09:38] <TV-VCR> i cant back up my data!
[09:38] <yaron> vulcanius, msn doesn't connect and i'm using 2.0.0beta6
[09:38] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, why not?
[09:38] <tracy_> I'm gunna kill my bf. I can't do anything easily with this
[09:38] <TV-VCR> not enough room and i dont have any other storage devices
[09:38] <yaron> vulcanius, it's called gaim, mind you, so it's ancient
[09:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Can you explain your partitions you currently have on your pc?
[09:39] <brobostigon> pidgin is newe
[09:39] <drewzf> tracy_: Don't kill him, he had the best intentions.
[09:39] <TV-VCR> just one
[09:39] <hellonull> tracy_: are you trying to copy using cp command in terminal?
[09:39] <tracy_> :)
[09:39] <drewzf> tracy_: Is there anything I can help you with?
[09:39] <TV-VCR> windows xp
[09:39] <tracy_> hellonull, yes.
[09:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: its sad
[09:39] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, i'd suggest finding one beforehand then. if this data is that sensitive it NEEDS to be backed up
[09:39] <TV-VCR> there is 7 mb of unpartitioned space
[09:39] <hellonull> you have to put a backslash in front of every space
[09:39] <brobostigon> try df -h
[09:39] <bauer77> ah all the men going for the womens distres I love it
[09:39] <bauer77> :-)
[09:39] <hellonull> (@ tracy)
[09:39] <usser> riaal just googled https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[09:39] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: yes, u need to have a backup before you do anything
[09:39] <ganesh> usser:how to paste d out put of ifconfig??
[09:40] <TV-VCR> well its not data that would cause a company to go out of business
[09:40] <adam__> everybody goto techox.net
[09:40] <tracy_> drewzf, I am trying to copy files to a key drive using cp -fr /folder/ /newFolder/ and I keep getting cp: cannot create regular file `/media/MY CRUZER/ripped/Stephen E. Lucas/The Art of Public Speaking (disc 1)/02 - Chapter 01-02: Similarities Between Public Speaking and Conversation.mp3': Invalid argument
[09:40] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ganesh: copy it!
[09:40] <TV-VCR> i could lose it but id be very unhappy
[09:40] <adam__> techox.net
[09:40] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, if it's company data i'd back it up regardless of how unimportant it may be
[09:40] <usser> ganesh go to pastebin.ca paste it there and paste the link here
[09:40] <TV-VCR> its not!
[09:40] <hellonull> tracy_: you have to use backslashes in front of spaces
[09:40] <TV-VCR> this is personal computer!
[09:40] <Planet-X> cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:40] <Planet-X>  0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[09:40] <Planet-X>                       HDA Intel at 0x50300000 irq 22
[09:41] <drewzf> tracy_: as hellonull said you have to use backslashes, you can use tab to auto-complete filenames and folder names to make this process easier
[09:41] <tracy_> hellonull, shouldn't Linux know that when I try to drag and drop?
[09:41] <Lumio> what do you think about this login-page of a management-tool to manage an ubuntu webserver: http://file-city.co.uk/files/lumio/photo/mubix2.png
[09:41] <Lumio> do you think I'm allowed to use is like that
[09:41] <hellonull> tracy_: when you drag/drop, i would think so
[09:41] <tracy_> shouldn't it see them and do what needs done?
[09:41] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, how much data is it you want to keep?
[09:41] <yurimxpxman> what's the command for google desktop? I can't find it
[09:41] <bruenig> !ot | Lumio
[09:41] <ubotu> Lumio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:41] <TV-VCR> hmm
[09:41] <TV-VCR> hang on
[09:41] <blubba> computer boots older kernel, but not newwer ones :( where should I look? how to fix? (it will have to boot to 2.6.12-??), I guess thats the first step?
[09:42] <Lumio> bruenig ... sorry :)
[09:42] <tracy_> I get the same problem when I try to drag and drop. That's why I looked up how to copy from the command prompt
[09:42] <TV-VCR> 70 GB
[09:42] <TV-VCR> there is around 85 GB left
[09:42] <vmlemon> Hi, please can someone tell me where I can find the termcap-compat package (was for Breezy, before it was seemingly purged from existance globally)?
[09:42] <lam3r> hi tell me hoe to install nvidiia drivers and how to exit x server?
[09:42] <hellonull> tracy_: try it form the command prompt using a backslash in front of each space
[09:42] <thehollowwithin> thanks that helped a lot
[09:42] <hellonull> tracy_: from*
[09:43] <TV-VCR> http://wubi.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[09:43] <tracy_> Windows needs the slashes too but if you copy a folder from cli or use drag and drop Windows does what it needs to do in the background with the spaces and such
[09:43] <yaron> why is gaim so old in feisty?
[09:43] <tracy_> hellonull, again that would probably work but I have soooooo many files
[09:43] <lam3r> how to use easeyubuntu?
[09:43] <drewzf> yaron: Because GAIM switched to Pidgin and the build is old
[09:43] <hellonull> tracy_: use wildcards
[09:44] <tracy_> lam3r, easyUbuntu is what I need :)
[09:44] <bruenig> tracy_, what are you trying?
[09:44] <TV-VCR> HELP
[09:44] <vmlemon> I'm running Ubuntu Edgy Server on the system where it's needed
[09:44] <jeb> hi
[09:44] <yaron> drewzf, when will pidgin come out?
[09:44] <jeb> is it possible to network-install ubuntu?
[09:44] <brobostigon> no ned to shout tv-vcr
[09:44] <bruenig> !install | jeb
[09:44] <ubotu> jeb: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:45] <TV-VCR> i still need hellllllpppppp
[09:45] <drewzf> yaron: It's out now :)
[09:45] <bruenig> !please | TV-VCR
[09:45] <jeb> thx
[09:45] <ubotu> TV-VCR: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[09:45] <jeb> i'll check it
[09:45] <tracy_> bruenig, trying to copy a folder that has 6 sub folders that contain files with "inapropriate" file names. when I do cp -fr /folder/ /newfolder/ I get cp: cannot create regular file `/media/MY CRUZER/ripped/Stephen E. Lucas/The Art of Public Speaking (disc 1)/02 - Chapter 01-02: Similarities Between Public Speaking and Conversation.mp3': Invalid argument (for each file in the folder)
[09:45] <riaal> Anyone know of a easy way (aplication) to encrypt a folder in ubuntu? When I google I get lost in system encryptions
[09:45] <usser> yaron you have to compile it yourself though
[09:45] <Tommy> yaron, http://tinyurl.com/3ygyjp
[09:45] <bruenig> tracy_, the problem is the :
[09:45] <brobostigon> encfs might do the job.
[09:45] <TV-VCR> what is wubi can it work?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:45] <bruenig> tracy_, I have had that happen to me also
[09:46] <Planet-X> anyone help me get sound to work
[09:46] <Planet-X> alsa
[09:46] <brobostigon> encfs encrypts folders
[09:46] <Planet-X> it sees my card
[09:46] <tracy_> bruenig, so I will have to remove that from each file? :/
[09:46] <Planet-X> just won't make sounds
[09:46] <tracy_> is there anything other than cp that will work?
[09:46] <bruenig> tracy_, you could cd into folder/ and do find . -type f -exec rename ":" "" {} \;
[09:47] <bruenig> tracy_, that will remove it from all at once and then you can copy
[09:47] <yaron> there's no source package for apt...?
[09:47] <tracy_> bruenig, thank you thank you
[09:47] <Planet-X> yo i got sound
[09:47] <Planet-X> but xmms won't make sound
[09:47] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: sorry, never used Wubi!
[09:47] <Tommy> whats that yaron?
[09:47] <TV-VCR> http://wubi.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[09:47] <yaron> Tommy, source deb
[09:48] <ganesh> usser:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39292/
[09:48] <yaron> Tommy, i don't know how you call it
[09:48] <Planet-X> why does sound in system/prefences play a sound when i say test
[09:48] <tracy_> bruenig, do i need the ; at the end?
[09:48] <Planet-X> but xmms does nothing
[09:48] <usser> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39292/
[09:48] <bruenig> tracy_, yes
[09:48] <tracy_> thanks :)
[09:48] <bruenig> tracy_, including the \
[09:48] <zylche> If I wanted to make a command 'blah' called 'rm -rf example' what command would I use to define that new command/
[09:48] <lam3r> ok im restarting ubuntu but if it still won\t work then fuck u lamers
[09:48] <lam3r> :D
[09:48] <blubba> Im having trouble getting the system to boot a current kernel. Ive booted up 2.6.12-9, which seems to be the last working kernel (but several others that wont boot).
[09:48] <bruenig> zylche, you an do alias blah='rm -rf'
[09:48] <brobostigon>  becarefll of your speech,lam3r
[09:48] <zylche> alias! that's it.
[09:48] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Planet-X: Start XMMS and press Ctrl+P to open preferences. Then select the right Audio Output Plugin.
[09:48] <zylche> thanks.
[09:48] <bruenig> zylche, or you can write a bash script that does rm -rf $1
[09:49] <zylche> I was just trying to remember alias.
[09:49] <Jowi> yaron, apt-get source apt
[09:49] <Planet-X> yo
[09:49] <Planet-X> i just selected OSS
[09:49] <Planet-X> but now
[09:49] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, ok look seriously. Wubi is not really going to help you. My best and only suggestion to you is to spend a few bucks to invest in a second hard drive to back up your data. Once you've done that I'd be willing to help you more.
[09:49] <Planet-X> i can't change the volume with the slider
[09:49] <Tommy> yaron, apt-get/
[09:49] <yaron> Jowi, i meant the pidgin thingie
[09:49] <TV-VCR> look i just want to install ubuntu how do i do th is and it not work
[09:49] <brobostigon> try a prog called mixer
[09:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Planet-X: I use eSound. Try it
[09:49] <Planet-X> nah i want xmms
[09:50] <usser> ganesh seems ok, ok try ping 192.168.1.1
[09:50] <Planet-X> oh
[09:50] <Planet-X> my bad
[09:50] <Planet-X> lemme try
[09:50] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Planet-X: lol
[09:50] <Planet-X> thanks goldenhawk3d: works great
[09:50] <Planet-X> :)
[09:50] <Tommy> yaron, you mean dependencies?
[09:50] <Planet-X> thanks again i'm off.
[09:50] <blubba> hrm :(
[09:50] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: You can easily install Ubuntu, only if you had some free disc space!
[09:51] <Jowi> yaron, which version of ubuntu?
[09:51] <brobostigon> it atomaticlly uses free space during install
[09:51] <TV-VCR> I HAVE OVER 80 GIGS OF FREE SPACE
[09:51] <drewzf> I love Ubuntu
[09:51] <AutoMatriX_> hi folks
[09:51] <Jowi> yaron, it is called "pidgin" in gutsy but "gaim" in feisty
[09:51] <gOLdenHaWK3D> drewzf: I love it too! /)
[09:51] <brobostigon> then during install it will use that free space
[09:52] <tech0007> hi everyone!
[09:52] <drewzf> I mean ... love love. if Mark Shuttleworth was here right now I would give him a Shuttle, because Mark my words, that's what he's worth.. (get it... shuttle... Mark... my words... Worth... hehe Mark Shuttleworth)
[09:52] <TV-VCR> but I need partition
[09:52] <blubba> I need help with booting. boots older kernel, but not new ones.
[09:52] <Jowi> yaron, so depending on which version of ubuntu you have you use either "apt-get source pidgin" or "apt-get source gaim"
[09:52] <gOLdenHaWK3D> drewzf: heheh
[09:52] <brobostigon> it will partition your hd automaticlly
[09:53] <TV-VCR> OK
[09:53] <TV-VCR> hOW DOES IT DO THAT
[09:53] <gOLdenHaWK3D> brobostigon: but it will erase all the data then!
[09:53] <TV-VCR> NO
[09:53] <blubba> am I just typing to myself?
[09:53] <Jowi> TV-VCR, please turn off caps
[09:53] <gorski> how to undelete files?
[09:53] <TV-VCR> i want to keep data
[09:53] <TV-VCR> not lose it
[09:53] <brobostigon> he needs to chose to only use the free space uring install
[09:53] <tech0007> rtfm
[09:53] <TV-VCR> THW origional problem is that IT DID NOT INSTALL
[09:53] <TV-VCR> iT fROZE
[09:53] <TV-VCR> oops
[09:54] <eva-> drewzf, thats a nice pun right there
[09:54] <gOLdenHaWK3D> brobostigon: he does not have any free space. but he has free space on his single partition, which also has his data and winblows!
[09:54] <Jowi> blubba, so keep using the older one. newer is not always better.
[09:54] <drewzf> eva-: Thanks, I've been preparing it mentally for weeks ;)
[09:54] <usser> blubba do u have those kernels installed?
[09:54] <brobostigon> cant he make the single partition smaller to make space for an other aprtition
[09:54] <cyrano> hi. i am trying to install a nautilus script in gutsy but can't fin scripst menu when i rightclick files in nautilus. why
[09:54] <cyrano> ?
[09:54] <TV-VCR> BOB HOW DO I DO THAT
[09:55] <Jowi> cyrano, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[09:55] <drewzf> TV-VCR: Can we please not use so many caps? You're making my ears hurt.
[09:55] <eva-> drewzf, reMARKably WORTH it
[09:55] <tech0007> lol
[09:55] <blubba> usser, yes, i have several kernels that wont boot :( one that does.
[09:55] <drewzf> eva-: Good one :D
[09:55] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, http://www.livinginternet.com/r/ru_chatq.htm
[09:55] <TV-VCR> HOW DO I DO THAT
[09:55] <tracy_> bruenig, I'm doing find . -type f -exec rename ":" "" {} \; and it gives me syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near ":"
[09:55] <genii> Just use gparted to resize your windoze partition and free up some of the 80Gb for ubuntu. Needs to have been filechecked from inside of windows though first for gparted to successfully resize ntfs partitions.
[09:56] <usser> blubba do u have them in your grub menu.lst file?
[09:56] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Hit your Caps Lock key once!
[09:56] <hellonull> lol goldenhawk
[09:56] <TV-VCR> THATS NOT HELPING!!! YOU NOT HELP
[09:56] <blubba> usser, yeah...
[09:56] <Basti> join #ubuntu-de
[09:56] <TV-VCR> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[09:56] <tech0007> lol
[09:57] <blubba> usser, looking over /boot/grub/menu.lst ...
[09:57] <bruenig> tracy_, that should work, I just tried it here
[09:57] <vmlemon> Any other sources for the termcap-compat package? (Except the ones that were helpfully purged to make way for repositories/mirrors without it)
[09:57] <usser> blubba is there any error messages, does it hand or what?
[09:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: You need a software called Partition Magic or something like that. It works in Windoze and it will create a new partition out of your Free Space on your single partition. Got it?
[09:57] <TV-VCR> WHERE CAN I FIND IT
[09:57] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: I dont know this!
[09:57] <bruenig> !caps | TV-VCR calm down
[09:57] <ubotu> TV-VCR calm down: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:57] <tracy_> bruenig, who knows what this thing is doing? :) thank you for trying. I have got to leave for class now. :(
[09:57] <bruenig> !attitude | TV-VCR
[09:57] <ubotu> TV-VCR: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:57] <usser> blubba when u hit esc on grub boot phase do u see the menu with boot options?
[09:58] <blubba> usser, Ive tried a couple of the newwer kernels, and they dont always lock up in the same place. often its near the beginning (mounting file systems and stuffl)...
[09:58] <tech0007> lol :)
[09:58] <genii> TV-VCR: Use instead this: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:58] <TV-VCR> !lattitude
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lattitude - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <usser> blubba oh ok
[09:58] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: I told you how to do it, but i dont know where to find Windoze softwares!
[09:58] <mneptok> TV-VCR: lose the <capslock>
[09:58] <hellonull> !pwnt | TV-VCR
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pwnt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <hellonull> lol
[09:58] <TV-VCR> !bot
[09:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:58] <TV-VCR> !no
[09:58] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[09:58] <TV-VCR> o.o
[09:58] <jussi01> !botabuse | TV-VCR
[09:58] <ubotu> TV-VCR: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:58] <llivavin> Can someone give me some common reasons why my computer will freeze up?
[09:59] <genii> TV-VCR: You make that cd, boot up to it. Resize the windows partition. then install ubuntu from the regular livecd installation into the freed-up area you just made.
[09:59] <TV-VCR> IM CONFUSED
[09:59] <mneptok> TV-VCR: lose the <capslock>
[09:59] <Jowi> llivavin, depends on at which point if freezez
[09:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: First stop typing in Caps!
[09:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: :@
[09:59] <tech0007> lol
[09:59] <TV-VCR> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_Magic
[09:59] <llivavin> Jowi: It randomly freezes
[09:59] <TV-VCR> IS THAT IT
[09:59] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, until you can lose the caps and get a better attitude, people aren't going to be very helpful to you
[09:59] <llivavin> GUI does i should say
[09:59] <usser> blubba well u really gotta look at the logs see whats happening there
[09:59] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: yes
[09:59] <llivavin> I can still hear sounds and stuff
[09:59] <TV-VCR> is it free
[10:00] <brobostigon> small letters tv-vcr
[10:00] <hellonull> hahaha
[10:00] <blubba> usser, I looked over menu.lst, didnt see anything odd..
[10:00] <llivavin> .... Is it me or was TV-VCR appear 12 years old...?
[10:00] <Jowi> llivavin, ah. does the mouse cursor move? is the keyboard dead (can you switch to console)?
[10:00] <TV-VCR> is partitionmagic free
[10:00] <llivavin> did TV-VCR appear*
[10:00] <hellonull> TV-VCR, be nice or it will kick you again
[10:00] <gOLdenHaWK3D> lol
[10:00] <vulcanius> TV-VCR, no, it's commercial software
[10:00] <mneptok> TV-VCR: lose the <capslock> (very last time)
[10:00] <llivavin> Jowi:  Everything stops respoding
[10:00] <TV-VCR> well i need free partition software
[10:00] <llivavin> Mouse wont move and keybored wont take input
[10:00] <blubba> usser, my guess is there isnt any log entries as it usually doesnt get too far in the boot process...
[10:00] <genii> TV-VCR: No, not free. That is why I suggest to use the gparted bootable cdrom. I gave you already the link
[10:00] <brobostigon> gparted
[10:01] <Jowi> llivavin, does the caps lock key still work?
[10:01] <mneptok> TV-VCR: Windows software questions belong in ##windows
[10:01] <llivavin> Hrm, I unno have to try that next freeze up >.>
[10:01] <TV-VCR> they r not work
[10:01] <llivavin> TV-VCR:  Pirate it.
[10:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: use gparted then.
[10:01] <mneptok> llivavin: please don't suggest such things here
[10:01] <TV-VCR> pirating is illegal
[10:01] <TV-VCR> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php ?
[10:01] <Jowi> llivavin, ok. which window manager are you using? are you using composite desktop? which video driver?
[10:01] <genii> TV-VCR: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php                       You download the cd image. Make the cd. etc etc etc as I previously already reiterated
[10:01] <genii> TV-VCR: Yes
[10:02] <signifer123> ubotu, ati > me
[10:02] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: and make some free space from your single partition. later install ubuntu on that free space!
[10:02] <TV-VCR> but i already make CD
[10:02] <TV-VCR> I just need new partition!!
[10:02] <vulcanius> i'm beginning to think he's unhelpable
[10:02] <brobostigon> gparted will do it.
[10:02] <hellonull> vulcanius: me too
[10:02] <genii> TV-VCR: You use ghparted to make the new partition.
[10:02] <hellonull> TV-VCR: you have to boot from that cd
[10:02] <llivavin> Jowi: Hrm? Im using the Nvidia aclerated driver and err Desktop type?
[10:02] <brobostigon> just concentrate tv-vcr.
[10:02] <genii> *gparted
[10:02] <gorski> how to undelete files?
[10:02] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:02] <llivavin> You move them out of the trashcan?
[10:03] <bruenig> gorski, get the backup you made and restore it
[10:03] <preaction> gorski, once it's out of the trash it's gone
[10:03] <gorski> nothing in trash
[10:03] <llivavin> Then gone for good.
[10:03] <Jowi> llivavin, by "composite desktop" I mean compiz/beryl
[10:03] <riaal> TrueCrypt is supose to be in some repos for Fiesty, can anyone help me find witch one?
[10:03] <Chousuke> gorski: hire a data recovery specialist :P
[10:03] <ijonk> hi
[10:03] <Jowi> hi ijonk
[10:03] <usser> blubba well i dunno, i doesnt issue no kernel panic no nothing huh?
[10:03] <llivavin> Jowi:  I have compiz installed but don't use it most of the time ((it freezes with it on or off.))
[10:04] <drewzf> I'm sorry, I've already said this, but ... Does anyone know where automatix went?
[10:04] <llivavin> drewzf: Hrm? What do you mean where it went?
[10:04] <bruenig> !automatix | drewzf
[10:04] <ubotu> drewzf: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:04] <llivavin> as in the site?
[10:04] <ijonk> hi
[10:04] <drewzf> Yes, as in the site.
[10:04] <ijonk> hi
[10:04] <bruenig> I bet someone who had their system broken got pissed and torched the servers
[10:04] <ijonk> hi
[10:04] <blubba> usser, usually it just locks up with the boot process on the screen... often within the first few tasks...
[10:04] <tech0007> lol
[10:05] <intelikey> i have a question,  is there anyway to report/check the ammount of memory that the kernel and initramfs has eaten up ?  it seems to be pre-deducted from the total  in /proc/meminfo  ???
[10:05] <ijonk> hai
[10:05] <sam281091> hey can someone tell me how to install ./configure for ssh
[10:05] <ijonk> hai
[10:05] <mneptok> drewzf: its karma ran over its dogma
[10:05] <drewzf> Several of our clients have complained about their sites not working, I'm looking for routing issues online and getautomatix.com doesn't work for me.
[10:05] <Hestv4> damn ubuntu keeps hanging on me
[10:05] <blubba> usser, they always load the kernel, and the ubuntu boot up screen...
[10:05] <drewzf> mneptok: HAHA! I freaking love that one, can I use it?
[10:05] <ijonk> kk
[10:05] <Hestv4> (ok, I haven't tried other operating systems on this box..)
[10:05] <ijonk> hi
[10:05] <llivavin> Jowi:??
[10:05] <blubba> usser, and the only keyboard I have I use on another computer :( (I use synergy with several computers, 1 keyboard).
[10:06] <Jowi> llivavin, ok. first I would recommend disable composite in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (set Option "Composite" to "Disable"). if that does not help switch from the nvidia driver to "vesa" to see if there is anything wrong with the video driver (since it is third party). if *that* does not help I would probably try another kernel myself but too early to say.
[10:06] <genii> TV-VCR: Look. Very simple. Step 1- make gparted cdrom and boot computer with this cdrom. Resize the Windows part with this cdrom to make room for Ubuntu. Step 2 - Boot to the livecd of Ubuntu and install it to the space you just made
[10:06] <mneptok> drewzf: all my speech is licensed under a Creative Commons "by attribution/no commercial/areyou serious?!" license
[10:06] <TV-VCR> i ran out of cds earlier
[10:06] <brobostigon> axactlly genii
[10:06] <Jowi> llivavin, sorry, I think while I type. makes me slow :)
[10:06] <hellonull> tv-vcr: go buy some more
[10:06] <TV-VCR> i ruinnedone and spent last making ubuntoo cd
[10:06] <drewzf> mneptok: I'm going to violate your license terms ;)
[10:07] <TV-VCR> it take me forever to get there!
[10:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: But now you already have a working Ubuntu CD!
[10:07] <vulcanius> hrm... when searching Google for Ubuntu and NILFS I am asked if I meant Ubuntu and MILFS... interesting...
[10:07] <tech0007> lol
[10:07] <TV-VCR> not really
[10:07] <cyrano> i dont get a script option when i right click in nautilus and even though i installed audio converter script with aptitude i haven't got any scripts in the nautilus script folder. Whats the solution?
[10:07] <TV-VCR> it freeze
[10:07] <hellonull> tv-vcr: gparted is on ubuntu cd
[10:07] <drewzf> TV-VCR: take a deep breath and relax...
[10:07] <^TalKz> hey, there is any way to restore ALL ubuntu settings back? like, clean as i installed it?
[10:07] <mneptok> drewzf: i feel so dirty.
[10:07] <TV-VCR> hellonull it is?
[10:07] <gOLdenHaWK3D> TV-VCR: Thats cuz you are installing it thru Wubi.
[10:07] <nomaS> hi, can i protect from DDoS attack ?
[10:07] <bruenig> cyrano, the audio converter script is not a nautilus script is it?
[10:07] <Jowi> llivavin, let me know if I am being unclear at any point.
[10:07] <TV-VCR> but file system ins NTFS!!!
[10:07] <drewzf> mneptok: It's okay, it'll wash off baby :o
[10:07] <genii> TV-VCR: If you left about 60Mb on one of the ruined CDs you can still use it to make the gparted cdrom. The image is not big.
[10:08] <TV-VCR> it's not CD-RW
[10:08] <justin420> hi does anybody know if the ubuntu people will update the nonfree flash to match the latest flash from adobe? http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ apparently has a fix to going fullscreen for linux
[10:08] <Filthpig> hi
[10:08] <llivavin> Jowi:  in xorg.conf its not showing any option for composit
[10:08] <intelikey> ^TalKz mopping out your home dir will reset all the personal setings.
[10:08] <genii> TV-VCR: gparted does not really care if you have ntfs or anything else.
[10:08] <bruenig> justin420, certainly won't for fawn
[10:08] <hellonull> tv-vcr: you boot from the cd, gparted comes up as a part of the installation process (step 3) i think and then you can partition the drive
[10:08] <^TalKz> delete /home ?
[10:08] <TV-VCR> wikipeida page say that gparted not support NTFS
[10:08] <bruenig> justin420, however, flash is just extract and move the .so over, so you can handle it I'm sure
[10:08] <hellonull> tv-vcr: (step 3, i think)**
[10:09] <cyrano> bruenig: its listed in apt-get as nautilus-script-audio-converter
[10:09] <llivavin> and its not the driver because it worked fine up untill a week or so ago
[10:09] <cyrano> thats the package name
[10:09] <justin420> thanks allot bruenig!
[10:09] <justin420> :)
[10:09] <bruenig> cyrano, dpkg -L it
[10:09] <Filthpig> Tried upgrading to Gutsy today, but the upgrade tool threw an error, it couldn't fetch two of the files and claimed I had a network problem... although I was surfing the net happily at the time
[10:09] <TV-VCR> it not support NTFS
[10:09] <cyrano> mm. dpkg l what? could you give me the entire command
[10:09] <intelikey> ^TalKz not /home   but $HOME/*   you may have things you want to exclude from that tho.
[10:09] <bruenig> cyrano, dpkg -L package
[10:09] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work in feisty
[10:09] <Jowi> llivavin, should be the last thing in xorg.conf. Section "Extensions". if you don't have it try to switch fron the nvidia driver to either 1. the nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu (think it's called nv but not sure) or 2. switch to the "vesa" driver.
[10:09] <TV-VCR> it not support NTFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:09] <hellonull> tv-vcr: it does not write ntfs, but it can convert unused part of ntfs to an ext2 or ext3 used for linux
[10:10] <TV-VCR> oh ok
[10:10] <Auckla> It detects my printer, allows me to print, but does not print anything? :)
[10:10] <TV-VCR> brb try again
[10:10] <^TalKz> intelikey: any example/tutorial?
[10:10] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work in feisty
[10:10] <hellonull> damn he was annoying
[10:10] <bruenig> you shouldn't have helped him
[10:10] <genii> TV-VCR: It does not need to write files onto your ntfs filesystemj. It just needs to resize the partition that the ntfs is on. It doesn't need to know anything about the ntfs.
[10:11] <genii> bah
[10:11] <hellonull> bruenig: if someone didnt he would have turned caps back on and kept going
[10:11] <bruenig> hellonull, then he would have been booted
[10:11] <genii> If he returns someone slap him for me
[10:11] <hellonull> if he returns lets all slap him
[10:11] <intelikey> ^TalKz and anything in $HOME/  that begins with . may be hidden from you.    .gonme/  for example.      rm $HOME/.gnome* -r    <<< that's one example.  but that wont reset everything. only the gnome settings.
[10:11] <vulcanius> genii, if he returns i'll shoot myself
[10:11] <tech0007> lol
[10:11] <cyrano> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39295/
[10:11] <genii> hellonull: LOL
[10:11] <Grim76> He is probably going to repartition the whole drive and blow it up.
[10:11] <bruenig> cyrano, what do you want?
[10:11] <Jowi> llivavin, we need to pinpoint the problem. most common thing that make the desktop freeze would be the video driver. the vesa driver is to be considered "stable to the extreme". if the freeze continue there is a memcheck option in the grub menu when you boot up the PC
[10:12] <bruenig> cyrano, that shows you where it is...
[10:12] <vulcanius> Grim76, that means his IRC client will be gone.... which is good news
[10:12] <brobostigon> it sounds like he will trash it. he wasnt listening properly.
[10:12] <Grim76> This is true
[10:12] <cyrano> i don't get an script option in the right click menu at all...
[10:12] <hellonull> vulcanius: ingenious thinking
[10:12] <genii> Grim76: Yes, then come back here and spam us for it
[10:12] <cyrano> i would like to be able to right click in nautilus and run a script
[10:12] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work in feisty
[10:12] <wastrel> hi folks, finished installing feisty and the machine won't boot.  get the grub line then a blinking cursor at the top of the screen
[10:12] <wastrel> i can boot rescue mode and mount the drive, everythign looks fine.
[10:13] <bruenig> cyrano, well the script might be poor, I don't know about that, but it is where it is supposed to be
[10:13] <nomaS> hi, can i protect from DDoS attack ?
[10:13] <bruenig> cyrano, maybe open up the script and have a look
[10:13] <intelikey> Grim76 or he could (not likely tho) deside to not use any partitions  like me.   i have no partition
[10:13] <wastrel> (boot rescue from a CD)
[10:13] <oxeimon> sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied
[10:13] <oxeimon> I'm trying to install matlab on my computer, but when I do "sudo ./install", I get: "sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied"
[10:13] <genii> wastrel: Usual things: Dual head? If so try other plug/adapter etc
[10:13] <Jowi> llivavin, there are other things that could cause freez as well (such as APIC) but normally that would give errors during boot time.
[10:13] <Grim76> intelikey: Live CD?
[10:13] <cyrano> but its not just that script... i dont even get the script menu... no scripts at all
[10:13] <intelikey> Grim76 no.
[10:13] <blubba> ide: failed opcode ?
[10:13] <rdw200169> oxeimon: are you on a fat partition trying to execute it?
[10:13] <bruenig> cyrano, well you won't get a script menu if you don't have any scripts
[10:14] <marlun> The font used by default in ubuntu, can I download it and use it in Windows too?
[10:14] <bruenig> cyrano, so are there others?
[10:14] <oxeimon> I'm on the dvd
[10:14] <intelikey> Grim76 hd install,  installed on /dev/hda
[10:14] <Grim76> intelikey: Never heard of one running with out a partition though
[10:14] <genii> oxeimon: sudo chown 0:0 install
[10:14] <rdw200169> you can try: $bash install
[10:14] <hellonull> marlun: it is a package in synaptic package manager as ttf font
[10:14] <intelikey> Grim76 that's why i mentioned it.
[10:14] <bruenig> cyrano, what are you even trying to do, I'm sure there is a quicker easier way
[10:14] <cyrano> i'm gonna make one... what filename do i call a script? .default ?
[10:14] <Jowi> marlun, that shouldn't be a problem. the ttf's are in /usr/share/fonts
[10:14] <wastrel> genii: it's single dvi
[10:14] <oxeimon> chown: changing ownership of `install': Read-only file system
[10:14] <Fedman_> How can I start the gnome color picker?
[10:14] <marlun> great :)
[10:15] <oxeimon> I get the same problem
[10:15] <Jowi> marlun, /usr/share/fonts/truetype to be exact
[10:15] <genii> wastrel: Some i810 cipset?
[10:15] <cyrano> i would like to have the audio convert right click in nautilus script. I've tried to install the deb package and in apt-get it didnt work
[10:15] <Grim76> intelikey: you have my curiosity peaked how did you install without partitions?
[10:15] <genii> *chipset
[10:15] <intelikey> cyrano name a script something that describes what it does, but that there isn't already an app by that name
[10:15] <rdw200169> oxeimon: what are you trying to do?
[10:15] <bruenig> cyrano, no but what are you actually trying to do, convert what to what
[10:15] <oxeimon> the install file is an executable...I just don't seem to be able to execute it
[10:15] <oxeimon> I'm trying to install matlab from the dvd
[10:15] <cyrano> wma to mp3
[10:15] <marlun> Jowi: thanks :)
[10:15] <bruenig> !info soundconverter
[10:15] <oxeimon> but for some reason I can't get the install file to execute
[10:15] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 67 kB, installed size 360 kB
[10:15] <bruenig> use that ^
[10:15] <Bassxman1> i need help getting sound on ubuntu
[10:16] <Bassxman1> can anyone help?
[10:16] <cyrano> ok thx
[10:16] <genii> oxeimon: You need to copy it from the dvd to hd first
[10:16] <usser> cyrano mencoder for mplayer does that
[10:16] <oxeimon> ohh really.
[10:16] <whatevertruly> hello, i can't get my new PCI USB card going
[10:16] <Naxa> bye!
[10:16] <drewzf> Has anyone ever seen Shuttleworth in here?
[10:16] <rdw200169> oxeimon: I agree with genii
[10:16] <intelikey> Grim76 the installation is somewhay tricky with the live CD,  one must manually mount the drive on /target and let the partitioning step fail then continue the installation with the failed step.
[10:16] <oxeimon> hmm, the pdf said something about 'mounting' the dvd?
[10:16] <oxeimon> what does mounting mean exactly
[10:17] <oxeimon> like, when I inserted the dvd, I could browse it...does that mean it's been 'mounted'?
[10:17] <bruenig> oxeimon, it has been put into the filesystem
[10:17] <preaction> oxeimon, yes
[10:17] <Grim76> intelikey: huh ok...Interesting
[10:17] <rdw200169> oxeimon: mounting is just adding the files on the dvd to your file system, just like the D: E: etc... in windows
[10:17] <intelikey> Grim76 it's not for a novice.    also you can't use grub as a boot loader.   lilo will work tho
[10:17] <genii> oxeimon: Means to splice the contents of the thing you are mounting into the existing filesystem under a directory name
[10:17] <blubba> dma_intr: status=0x51  ?
[10:17] <bruenig> oxeimon, it is no longer just an inaccessible device file but its contents have been inserted into the filesystem for viewing
[10:18] <rdw200169> oxeimon: if you can get into the dvd, it's mounted
[10:18] <oxeimon> hmm, but I still can't start the installer after I mount it
[10:18] <whatevertruly> i can't get my new PCI USB card going
[10:18] <ali110> i am trying to install virtualbox but after clicking the debian file and clicking on install pakage it says downloding additional package files 0 of 3 and just stay like that all the time doing nothing ?? what is the problem
[10:18] <oxeimon> and the installation guide says nothing about copying the files onto my hard drive
[10:18] <genii> wastrel: Have you checked to see what driver it wants to be using in the xorg.conf ?
[10:18] <cyrano> oh fuck... i think my problem will never be solved... i must have drm enryted wma files
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | cyrano
[10:18] <ubotu> cyrano: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:18] <Bassxman1> i need help with a sound problem
[10:19] <hellonull> cyrano: you have windows too?
[10:19] <whatevertruly> help needed with USB problem
[10:19] <llivavin> cyrano: Theres always a way to get something done. Its just the matter if its legal or not.
[10:19] <Filthpig> Tried upgrading to Gutsy today, but the upgrade tool threw an error: it couldn't fetch two of the files and claimed I had a network problem... although I was surfing the net happily at the time. I'm currently trying the upgrade again, but it stops at the same time, I'm just waiting for the error...
[10:19] <genii> oxeimon: Most installers want to begin making files of some sort in the same directory which you run them. If you run them on a read-only (eg: cd,DVD) filesystem they cannot be successful.
[10:19] <cyrano> i don't have windows
[10:19] <cyrano> only ubuntu
[10:19] <llivavin> cyrano: How would you manage to get wma protected then?
[10:19] <llivavin> USB drive or something?
[10:20] <blubba> usser, it looks like a DMA problem ? Im not sure how I can have a DMA problem with one kernel, but not another ?
[10:20] <oxeimon> genii: So you would suggest copying the contents of the dvd into some folder?
[10:20] <cyrano> i have transfered them from a windows machine i guess. music i found on my harddisc
[10:20] <wastrel> genii: it's ATI something.  i don't think the machine is even booting so i haven't looked at the X config yet
[10:20] <ali110> i am trying to install virtualbox but after clicking the debian file and clicking on install pakage it says downloding additional package files 0 of 3 and just stay like that all the time doing nothing ?? what is the problem
[10:20] <genii> oxeimon: Exactly so
[10:20] <whatevertruly> llivavin, yes i can't get my new PCI USB card going
[10:20] <wastrel> genii: i don't see the bootsplash or anything
[10:20] <whatevertruly> llivavin, i can't even SEE it
[10:20] <hellonull> cyrano: if you are able to get to a copy of windows, use windows media encoder, it should do the trick
[10:21] <Jowi> cyrano, you can try to play them with mplayer.
[10:21] <llivavin> whatevertruly: Google
[10:21] <llivavin> i think you need drivers.
[10:21] <cyrano> thansk for the suggestion but i wont install windows
[10:21] <genii> wastrel: Ah OK, no splash etc. Best thing to try is inserting at kernel load then something like acpi=off or so, see if it progresses
[10:21] <marlun> I do not have access to ubuntu right now, can someone tell me what the font used bydefault in ubuntu is called? I mean the font that is used in all applications for example pidgin, xchat, etc?
[10:21] <cyrano> i've got several copys... but i'm done with that, and no spare pcs to break on it :P
[10:22] <rdw200169> oeximon: the steps here can help: http://www.it.iastate.edu/matlab/student/
[10:23] <rdw200169> oeximon: the installer intends for your PWD (Working Directory) to be the install directory.
[10:23] <rdw200169> oeximon: if your working directory is on the DVD, it won't install
[10:24] <hellonull> marlun: "sans"
[10:24] <Filthpig> the beryl repos doesn't respond when upgrading to Gutsy. Is it safe to comment them out in the sources list before upgrading?
[10:24] <Jowi> cyrano, if mplayer can play them there should be a wma converter for it. you could probably use "mplayer -ao pcm" or use the -dumpaudio switch
[10:24] <Bassxman1> can anyone please help me with a sound problem
[10:24] <Bassxman1> ?
[10:24] <genii> rdw200169: Good find
[10:24] <bruenig> Filthpig, you want to do that anyways, you don't want a bunch of third party garbage while you are upgrading
[10:24] <Filthpig> Should I upgrade to compiz fusion before upgrading?
[10:25] <blubba> help, several kernels seem to complain about dma_intr, status=0x51, and error0x84 however booting older kernels work fine (so i dont think its hardware issue).
[10:25] <genii> Filthpig: I would suggest no, but others here might have a different view
[10:25] <bruenig> blubba, do you need to newer kernels for anything?
[10:25] <oxeimon> rdw200169: what do you mean by a working directory?
[10:25] <bruenig> the*
[10:25] <rdw200169> genii: I think i've been using linux for too long..
[10:26] <Filthpig> bruenig: ok, good stuff. I just didn't want to be left with a f'ed up X or anything because of lacking files for beryl
[10:26] <oxeimon> rdw200169: is that the directory that the installer is in?
[10:26] <Filthpig> I'll comment them out and retry then :)
[10:26] <genii> oxeimon: Working directory is the directory you are running the installation file from
[10:26] <bruenig> Filthpig, beryl is a window manager so....
[10:26] <blubba> bruenig, well, im not sure, but probably... how many security issues have there been since 2.6.12-9 ?
[10:26] <rdw200169> oxeimon: in BASH, (the terminal), if you type $echo $PWD, it will tell you your working directory
[10:26] <bruenig> blubba, probably not
[10:26] <bruenig> rdw200169, just pwd  will do
[10:27] <blubba> bruenig, havnt used this computer in a while, and its the fastest one I have. may do video editing and stuff on it...
[10:27] <Filthpig> bruenig: well yes, but things can happen ;)
[10:27] <oxeimon> rdw200169: even when I try "sudo /media/cdrom0/install", I get: "sudo: unable to execute /media/cdrom0/install: Permission denied"
[10:27] <Troseph> !pong
[10:27] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[10:27] <cyrano> mplayer can't play them
[10:27] <rdw200169> oxeimon: the trick, i think, is that the installer, on the dvd, is using that variable as the install directory, so you execute the install program from the PWD you intend to install to
[10:27] <cyrano> :(
[10:27] <rdw200169> oxeimon, try this: sudo bash /media/cdrom0/install
[10:27] <Jowi> cyrano, even with w32codecs?
[10:27] <Troseph> !samba | troseph
[10:28] <cyrano> YUP
[10:28] <cyrano> what do i name a script by the way? . default .script???
[10:28] <Auckla> This should bee added somewhere. "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81847.html" For LxMark 4200 Series printers.
[10:29] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work in feisty?
[10:29] <oxeimon> rdw200169: that seemed to have kind of worked, except I get an error with my X window system file 'xsetup'..."/media/cdrom0/update/install/main.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied"
[10:29] <Tommy> oxeimon, you need to be root
[10:29] <erUSUL> cyrano: *.sh if it's a shell script
[10:30] <rdw200169> Tommy, i agree
[10:30] <Luke_S> Is there a way to create your own custom ubuntu CD and rename "ubuntu" to something else? I need to make an install CD with basic packages and X (not desktop manager) and have X start a X based application on boot (possibly take the place of the boot manager).
[10:30] <cyrano> is a nautilus script a shell script?
[10:30] <oxeimon> Tommy: I said "sudo bash /media/cdrom0/install" Is that different from being root?
[10:30] <rdw200169> oxeimon, sometimes sudo doesn't quite work the way you want to, and you have to log into root, even though it may not exist
[10:30] <oxeimon> how do you log into root?
[10:30] <rdw200169> oxeimon, by doing 'sudo su root' or 'sudo su -'
[10:31] <lucien> i have a slow/low-memory laptop. can someone recommend me a simple and fast gtk engine?
[10:31] <rdw200169> oxeimon: your prompt should change from a $ to a #
[10:31] <oxeimon> rdw200169: so... I should type: "sudo su root bash /media/cdrom0/install"?
[10:32] <rdw200169> oxeimon, separately,
[10:32] <oxeimon> k
[10:32] <fen1x> Hey guys, How do you compile C++ in Ubuntu?
[10:32] <rdw200169> oxeimon, chang to root, then run the command
[10:32] <TheSkeptik> #kubuntu
[10:32] <oxeimon> root@entropy:/usr/local/matlab74# /media/cdrom0/install
[10:32] <oxeimon> bash: /media/cdrom0/install: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[10:32] <Bassxman1> can someone help me with my sound blaster 16 PCI card?
[10:32] <oxeimon> oh wait, forgot the bash
[10:32] <oxeimon> nope, I get the same problem
[10:33] <oxeimon> /media/cdrom0/update/install/main.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[10:33] <livingdaylight> Is Ubuntu melGibson out yet?
[10:33] <brobostigon> 
[10:33] <livingdaylight> Is Ubuntu version MelGibson released yet?
[10:33] <tech0007> anyone knows how to make samsung sgh-e760s work in feisty?
[10:33] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I get the same problem after logging into root: "/media/cdrom0/update/install/main.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied"
[10:34] <Jowi> livingdaylight, no
[10:34] <rdw200169> oeximon: perhaps your dvd got mounted wrong, *perhaps*, not sure though
[10:34] <rdw200169> oeximon, with the wrong options..
[10:34] <oxeimon> rdw200169: how do you change how your dvd is mounted?
[10:35] <Jtkiefer> anyone know what error 2 means when loading grub, I just did a new install and on the first boot it gaver error 2 on grub
[10:35] <rdw200169> oeximon, that, or the producers of the dvd did a very poor job..
[10:35] <MStublefield> Has anyone else been getting horribly slow downloads through Synaptic? Particularly running the alpha of Gutsy...
[10:35] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I actually had a similar kind of problem earlier. I have this portable hard drive, but whenever I plug it in, I could only read from it, but not write onto it
[10:35] <wastrel> bah
[10:35] <oxeimon> rdw200169: the dvd is from matlab
[10:35] <wastrel> MStublefield: gusty is #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <neosix> hello!!!
[10:35] <MStublefield> Ah, thanks.
[10:36] <rdw200169> oeximon: yeah, ubuntu can get buggy with how it mounts things...
[10:36] <fen1x> Hey guys, How do you compile C++ in Ubuntu?
[10:36] <rdw200169> oeximon: you have to edit /etc/fstab
[10:36] <rdw200169> oeximon: not fun for someone new ...
[10:36] <andruk> anybody know a good cvs frontend?
[10:36] <Devourer> fen1x: g++
[10:36] <neosix> fen1x: you must install g++
[10:36] <ompaul> !compile > fen1x ( with a compiler   check out the message from the bot
[10:36] <fen1x> Devourer: I have g++ how do I use it?
[10:37] <rdw200169> oeximon, can you show me what it has for your dvd drive (cdrom0)?  i don't want to see the whole file, just that one line
[10:37] <Jtkiefer> anyone know what error 2 means when loading grub, I just did a new install and on the first boot it gaver error 2 on grub
[10:37] <Devourer> fen1x: In the terminal you type "g++ blah.cpp".
[10:37] <Luke_S> Anyone here use reconstructor?
[10:37] <oxeimon> rdw200169: what line do you mean? How do I see what "it has"?
[10:37] <rdw200169> Jtkiefer: that means it can't find /boot
[10:37] <blubba> hrm... I noticed that it looks like im loading smp kernels on the ones that fail.  what can I do to change that?
[10:37] <Jtkiefer> damn
[10:37] <oxeimon> rdw200169: you mean the line in fstab?
[10:37] <fen1x> Devourer: Assuming the blah.cpp has to be /Home/Name/Directory/Blah.cpp?
[10:37] <rdw200169> oxeimon: the line that has something like /dev/cdrom0
[10:37] <rdw200169> oxeimon: yes
[10:37] <oxeimon> /media/cdrom0/update/install/main.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied
[10:38] <oxeimon> wait no
[10:38] <Jtkiefer> odd that it can't do that considering I clean loaded everything and wiped the drive
[10:38] <oxeimon> rdw200169: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:38] <Devourer> fen1x: It can be in any directory...
[10:38] <fen1x> Devourer: well yea, but just saying it has to have the file path right?
[10:38] <Devourer> fen1x: You have to be in the same directory though. You can do this by using the cd command.
[10:38] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[10:38] <riaal> what is the best dc clinet out there? (most suported by hubs)?
[10:38] <Jowi> blubba, all the -generic kernels has got smp support. the i386 versions should be free of it (I think)
[10:38] <rdw200169> oxeimon, looks ok, you could try unmounting it, then mounting again
[10:38] <rdw200169> oxeimon, use the commands umount and mount
[10:38] <alcaponage> When I put my laptop on standby and turn it on, all i see is a blank screen and a mouse pointer
[10:38] <genii> rdw200169: Some sites I see say that sudo is not adequate for matlab install. so he needs something like sudo su -
[10:38] <Devourer> fen1x: I don't know, I guess you could try it with the whole path.
[10:39] <rdw200169> genii: but he tried as root
[10:39] <teddy> have a ubuntu 704 box with a lost root password. I tried booting into rescue mode but that jsut gives me another root login prompt. I tried booting from the ubuntu D and selecting "rescue" but that does not load the LVM. Tried modprobe lvm (lvm2, etc) notig loads up...Since LVM is the default install, why the heck is this critical module not the deafult when doing a recovery?
[10:39] <Bassxman1> My sound isn't working and I've tried rebooting and even reinstalling and I still don't have any sound.  I have a Sound Blaster 16 PCI card.  Can anyone help?
[10:39] <oxeimon> rdw: "bash: unmount: command not found"
[10:39] <rdw200169> genii: so we're trying a remount
[10:39] <wastrel> lvm isn't the default install
[10:39] <tech0007> alcaponage....dont ask if you can ask for help...just ask :)
[10:39] <eva-> anyone knows how to reduce the size of a pdf file  ?
[10:39] <genii> rdw200169: Yes, odd
[10:39] <wastrel> lvm is a choice you can make in the installer but it isn't default
[10:40] <rdw200169> oxeimon: not unmount, umount
[10:40] <alcaponage> How come my screen is blank on ubuntu after I put it in standby?
[10:40] <alcaponage> I see a white mouse
[10:40] <genii> oxeimon: only 1 n in umount and its at the end near the T
[10:40] <sensae> I'm having an extremely difficult time getting my sound to work - I have an ATI chipset, and have tried following the hda-intel wiki page to no success.
[10:40] <rdw200169> oxeimon, like 'umount /dev/scd0
[10:40] <rdw200169> oxeimon, or umount /media/cdrom0
[10:40] <oxeimon> rdw200169: k did that
[10:41] <rdw200169> oxeimon, then go back to your normal user
[10:41] <eva-> anyone knows how to reduce the size of a pdf file  ?
[10:41] <riaal> what is the best dc clinet out there? (most suported by hubs)? What are you ppl running?
[10:41] <rdw200169> oxeimon, by doing su (username)
[10:41] <whatevertruly> can't get the drivers for the PE1511-910
[10:41] <tech0007> eva-:   tar :)
[10:41] <whatevertruly> USB card with firewire
[10:41] <teddy> have a ubuntu 704 box with a lost root password. I tried booting into rescue mode but that just gives me another root login prompt. Tried booting with SINGLE, same root login prompt. I tried booting from the ubuntu CD and selecting "rescue" but that does not load the LVM. Tried modprobe lvm (lvm2, etc) no LVM loads...Since LVM is the default install, why the heck is this critical module not the default when doing a recovery?
[10:41] <alcaponage> What channel do I go to get get compiz help?
[10:41] <alcaponage> #compiz-effect?
[10:41] <oxeimon> rdw200169: k I'm back in my regular user "wchen@entropy:/usr/local/matlab74$"
[10:41] <eva-> tech0007, and is the file sill a pdf ?
[10:42] <dkr_> If someone modified GPL licensed software (say, WordPress and Vanilla Forum), and modified it in various, undocumented ways, and if I ask for the source code, they are legally required to give it to me, no?
[10:42] <rdw200169> oxeimon: now mount it: mount /media/cdrom0
[10:42] <wastrel> teddy: lvm isn't the default.  it's an option in the installer but not default selected
[10:42] <rdw200169> oxeimon: or mount /dev/scd0
[10:42] <rdw200169> oxeimon: both work
[10:42] <tech0007> eva-: nope, but u can open still the same if u use gnome desktop
[10:42] <whatevertruly> anybody know where can i get drivers for an USB card?
[10:43] <oxeimon> rdw200169: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:43] <Jowi> alcaponage, #ubuntu-effects
[10:43] <rdw200169> oxeimon, that's normal, think about it, can you write to a burned cd?
[10:43] <bruenig> tech0007, you realize it just extracts it in tmp right?
[10:43] <oxeimon> rdw200169:  I know, I'm just trying to give you as much as I can
[10:43] <tech0007> bruenig:  exactly
[10:43] <bruenig> not really a gnome innovation
[10:44] <bjv> apt- has come to a dead halt because of broken package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-386
[10:44] <oxeimon> rdw200169: just in case there's a subtle problem somewhere
[10:44] <tech0007> bruenig:.is it gnome-vfs?
[10:44] <whatevertruly> hello!
[10:44] <spiderpig> hello madam
[10:44] <whatevertruly> drivers needed!
[10:44] <bjv> attempting to install new packages, or just run autoremove hangs at 'Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-386 ...'
[10:44] <rdw200169> what do you see when you type 'ls -l /media/' i'm looking for the line related to cdrom0
[10:44] <sensae> Could anyone here help me with my sound?
[10:44] <andruk> anybody know a good cvs frontend?
[10:44] <rdw200169> oeximon, that's an L-lowercase, by the way
[10:45] <eva-> tech0007, any other way ? cos i used pdftk to do some pdf work and the resulting file is just too big, any other way to reduce the size ?
[10:45] <Jowi> sensae, you need to be more precise. does the driver load without error?
[10:45] <bjv> dpkg reports "rH  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-386 2.6.20.5-16.29"
[10:45] <bjv> how to get rid of a package with this installation status?
[10:45] <oxeimon> rdw200169:  what's an L-lowercase? Also, can you use my real name = oxeimon, instead of oeximon? I don't get the nice bold-ing of the text with oeximon
[10:45] <whatevertruly> Jowi, i can't find the drivers for my USB Firewire card......
[10:46] <hombrehuevo> hello anybody can help me with ANJUTA?
[10:46] <sensae> Jowi: Using the alsa wiki I determined I need the hda-intel module, and can modprobe that, it loads fine but I get no sound.
[10:46] <doodle77> can someone point me to a tutorial on how to use iwconfig+ifconfig to connect to a wireless network?
[10:46] <darkchr0n0s> !wireless
[10:46] <tech0007> andruk:  cvsgui www.wincvs.org, though i never tried it yet
[10:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:46] <bruenig> doodle77, man iwconfig
[10:46] <Jowi> sensae, "alsamixer" report the correct card? is the sound levels in there turned up and unmuted?
[10:46] <oxeimon> rdw200169: oh wait, you use oxeimon sometimes, nvm
[10:46] <doodle77> bruenig: looked at that already...
[10:46] <rdw200169> oxeimon, sorry, the little-L it shows up poorly by some fonts
[10:46] <wastrel> oxeimon: you can add things to your hilight list :] 
[10:47] <whatevertruly> oxeimon, i can't find the drivers for my USB Firewire card......
[10:47] <Kopfgeldjaeger> gn8
[10:47] <sensae> Jowi: Yes and yes
[10:47] <Jowi> whatevertruly, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ is a place to start
[10:47] <bruenig> doodle77, for unsecured, it's just iwconfig INTERFACE essid nameofaccesspoint && dhclient INTERFACE
[10:47] <bruenig> doodle77, other stuff you have to do keys and such, all well explained in the man page
[10:47] <darkchr0n0s> what is the command to install .deb packages ?
[10:47] <Jtkiefer> is there any reason why the ubuntu cd would have mounted the installation at /media vs just /, I'm trying to troubleshoot that grub issue with the livecd with little success
[10:48] <darkchr0n0s> deb -dpkg file.deb?
[10:48] <oxeimon> whatevertruly: I'm not someone to help you. I'm a guy that needs help :-D
[10:48] <Jowi> sensae, are there any switches with strange names in alsamixer ?
[10:48] <bruenig> dpkg -i
[10:48] <darkchr0n0s> thanks
[10:48] <Jtkiefer> unless that's the livecd and not the installation
[10:48] <sensae> Jowi: LFE
[10:48] <hombrehuevo> hello anybody can help me with ANJUTA?
[10:48] <rdw200169> oxeimon: be back in 5, time for the hourly
[10:48] <Squares> Quick question, does open moko support glade
[10:48] <hombrehuevo> hello anybody can help me with ANJUTA or with other C compiler?
[10:49] <oxeimon> rdw200169: k
[10:49] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, anjuta is not a c compiler
[10:49] <Jowi> sensae, shouldn't make a difference.
[10:49] <hombrehuevo> hello anybody can help me with ANJUTA or with other C IDE?
[10:49] <bruenig> I can help with vim, it works as a C IDE
[10:49] <darkchr0n0s> IDE for C.. hmm
[10:49] <sensae> Jowi: Well there aren't any other strange switches, others are "Front, Front Mic, Surround, Center"
[10:50] <Squares> Just ask the question dont ask to ask
[10:50] <hombrehuevo> how I can install VIM?
[10:50] <bruenig> !info vim-full
[10:50] <ubotu> vim-full: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0-164+1ubuntu7.2 (feisty), package size 934 kB, installed size 1880 kB
[10:50] <darkchr0n0s> hombrehuevo:  it's there by default
[10:50] <bruenig> ubuntu's vim is well known as awful
[10:50] <Jowi> sensae, ok. go to the multimedia settings and select ALSA as output sink.
[10:50] <bruenig> would recommend compiling it
[10:50] <wastrel> mmm vim tutorial
[10:50] <wastrel> what's wrong with ubunty's vim
[10:50] <tech0007> hmmm..vim..vmmmmmmmmm
[10:51] <sensae> Jowi: I've made sure ALSA
[10:51] <bruenig> wastrel, arrows when in insert don't work
[10:51] <rom1v> lu
[10:51] <hombrehuevo> ok apt-get install vim
[10:51] <bruenig> wastrel, no highlighting, etc
[10:51] <sensae> Jowi: I've made sure ALSA's selected
[10:51] <rom1v> y'en a qui ont dj russi  compiler vlc
[10:51] <rom1v> ?
[10:51] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, ubotu just told you it is vim-full
[10:51] <wastrel> who uses arrows?  :p
[10:51] <bruenig> wastrel, when in insert it is often faster
[10:51] <alcaponage> help me
[10:52] <rom1v> some already managed to compile vlc?
[10:52] <alcaponage> how come my screen is blank after i put it on standby?
[10:52] <bruenig> arrow over one instead of escape, h, i
[10:52] <rom1v> someone
[10:52] <Quak3r> sound wheel does not work!
[10:52] <darkchr0n0s> alcaponage:  don't put on standby.. it doesn't work
[10:52] <tdiddy> The built in microphones on my compal ifl90 aren't working... i've messed with the alsa-mixer to no avail.. any ideas?
[10:52] <Jowi> sensae, in alsamixer, what does "Chip:" at the top say?
[10:52] <hombrehuevo> how I can execute vim?
[10:52] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, vim file
[10:52] <tech0007> alcaponage...u use compiz, make sure ur system meets the requirements
[10:52] <bjv> help, cannot apt-get remove a package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39303/
[10:52] <sensae> Jowi: Chip: Realtek ALC861
[10:53] <bjv> installation status is 'rH'
[10:53] <atlnts> if you do an 'apt-get source xxx' to modify a configuration, do you have to do anythinig besides 'dpkg-buldpackage' to rebuild the .deb?
[10:53] <hombrehuevo> oh shit but it like vi
[10:53] <hombrehuevo> no, please
[10:53] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, best ide there is though
[10:53] <hombrehuevo> I need someone that use Anjuta, Eclipse, or KDeveloper
[10:54] <Jowi> sensae, are you using feisty?
[10:54] <sensae> Jowi: Yes
[10:54] <mattthebaker> is there a kernel flag i can give grub to disable agpgart being loaded? or does that need to be done elsewhere?
[10:54] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, you can use gvim
[10:54] <Jowi> sensae, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89527 (with a possible fix at the bottom of page)
[10:54] <hombrehuevo> are you mocking me?
[10:54] <shiznit> hi
[10:54] <whatevertruly> Jowi, the test says it's working properly and with all the drivers.....but it does not
[10:55] <bjv> hombrehuevo: have you ran gvim?
[10:55] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, if you wanted gui I mean, you can use gvim
[10:55] <wastrel> www.eclipse.org?
[10:55] <attackdecay> what's considered the best way to rename mp3's based on id3?
[10:55] <Jowi> whatevertruly, you asked for the driver. you got it. I have no experience with firewire cards.
[10:55] <bjv> attackdecay: i use easytag, it's a bit slow on my disks, though
[10:55] <riaal> DirectConnect client for ubuntu? Whats the most suported one?
[10:55] <hombrehuevo> ok bruenig
[10:55] <hombrehuevo> I have gvim
[10:55] <hombrehuevo> how i can execute gvim?
[10:56] <bruenig> hombrehuevo, should be in the menus, just run gvim
[10:56] <bjv> this package will not remove at all :(
[10:56] <blubba> usser, my issue seems to be DMA, adding ide=nodma has the system booting. not sure why though...
[10:57] <bruenig> attackdecay, you could also write a bash script with id3info
[10:57] <alcaponage> I need help using the cube
[10:57] <alcaponage> My cube won't work
[10:58] <rdw200169> oxeimon: what does this output? ls -l /media | while read file; do grep cdrom0; done
[11:00] <oxeimon> rdw200169: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     6 2007-09-07 10:32 cdrom -> cdrom0
[11:00] <oxeimon> dr-xr-xr-x 6 root  root  2048 2007-02-09 00:32 cdrom0
[11:00] <Badseed> hello
[11:00] <Badseed> is anyone here that has managed to make a sagem fast 800 e4 usb modem work in feisty?
[11:00] <jonah_> hi guys, what is the best way to mount a second hardrive in fstab so it mounts on boot etc and where should i mount it too and how should i go about it?
[11:01] <erisco> how do I reinstall a package?
[11:01] <littlecharly> Hi
[11:02] <attackdecay> thnx for the easytag, nice gui
[11:02] <nickrud> jonah_: depends a bit: what kind of partition, and what purpose does it serve?
[11:02] <rdw200169> oxeimon: what about: ls -l /media/cdrom0/install
[11:02] <teddy> so okay, if the Ubuntu 704 cd does not include LVM in the rescue D mode, what live CD can i use that would include support for RAIDs/LVM/SATAs etc..I would imagine one of those Linux System Rescue distros would be best to use....
[11:03] <attackdecay> bash script would do, but i'm still getting around scripting...  have only done some sox scripts so far...  i do need to learn more about the particulars of renaming, esp. find and replace renaming, in bash script
[11:03] <jonah_> nickrud, well it's ext3 and it's just a second hardrive for extra storage, it's already got some data on it i want to be able to use and at moment bit stuck as it's not mounted etc
[11:03] <oxeimon> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 37482 2007-01-11 17:05 /media/cdrom0/install
[11:03] <atlnts> if you do an 'apt-get source xxx' to modify a configuration, do you have to do anythinig besides 'dpkg-buldpackage' to rebuild the .deb?
[11:03] <oxeimon> rdw200169: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 37482 2007-01-11 17:05 /media/cdrom0/install
[11:03] <Jowi> !dsl | Badseed (have you read this?)
[11:03] <ubotu> Badseed (have you read this?): Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:04] <sensae> Jowi: No dice on the fix, unfortunately
[11:04] <rdw200169> oxeimon, that's strange, it give global-execute access, and yet you can't execute as your normal user..
[11:04] <nickrud> jonah_: then /dev/<whatever> /data  -t  ext3 defaults 0 1 would serve nicely, or maybe /home/<you>/data in place of /data
[11:04] <kaChr> does every ubuntu have  ftp preinstalled?
[11:04] <oxeimon> rdw200169: yup
[11:05] <alecw1> I just installed Compiz Fusion, but I then decided I didn't like it enough to keep it. After removing it, my metacity Alt+Tab doesn't work anymore! :( Can someone help?
[11:05] <nickrud> jonah_: that would cause the partition to be mounted at /data on bootup
[11:05] <rdw200169> oxeimon: what about ls -l /bin/sh
[11:05] <z10n> hi there, how do i get programs to run when i boot up my machine?
[11:05] <pike__> !startup | z10n
[11:05] <oxeimon> rdw200169: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-09-07 10:32 /bin/sh -> dash
[11:05] <ubotu> z10n: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[11:05] <gerzon> hi
[11:05] <kaChr> hello i got a question does every ubuntu have  ftp preinstalled?
[11:05] <bruenig> !boot
[11:05] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:05] <z10n> thank you :)
[11:05] <Badseed> ubotu: thanks, but it's the goddamn modem
[11:06] <gerzon> somebody speak spanish..??
[11:06] <Haz> kaChr: as far as a i know, yes.
[11:06] <jonah_> nickrud, ok so do i need to create a dir first from terminal before adding a line in fstab?
[11:06] <dgjones> !es | gerzon
[11:06] <Jowi> sensae, from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88400 "Wow, adding "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2347081&postcount=4) solves my problem. Thx to Joseph Smidt." did you see that?
[11:06] <ubotu> gerzon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:06] <nickrud> !es | gerzon
[11:06] <nickrud> jonah_: yes, good catch ;)
[11:06] <rdw200169> ok, perhaps dash is causing problems, it has for me in the past..
[11:06] <kaChr> any recomendation for a ftp server?
[11:06] <rdw200169> oxeimon: ok, perhaps dash is causing problems, it has for me in the past..
[11:06] <KOJV> Okay, so here I am, Windows freak to the bone, running Ubuntu... and find myself unable to write to my NTFS partitions. Is it impossible?
[11:06] <rdw200169> oxeimon: do this, sudo rm /bin/sh
[11:07] <oxeimon> rdw200169: done
[11:07] <rdw200169> oxeimon: then: sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[11:07] <sensae> Jowi: I was actually already using options snd-hda-intel model=3stack, and switched to model=auto
[11:07] <nickrud> !ntfs-3g | KOJV
[11:07] <ubotu> KOJV: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:07] <oxeimon> rdw200169: done. What's ln?
[11:07] <rdw200169> oxeimon, then do an ls -l /bin/sh
[11:07] <kaChr> anyone wanna recomend a ftp server?
[11:07] <rdw200169> oxeimon: link
[11:07] <oxeimon> rdw200169: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2007-10-01 17:07 /bin/sh -> /bin/bash
[11:08] <godzirra> wtf.  Everytime I reboot I have to reinstall my nvidia driver?  Anyone ever have this problem?  I install the nvidia driver after rebooting and it works fine.  Until I install it, it fails.
[11:08] <rdw200169> oxeimon: ok, good, now we're at least using bash as the standard sh (shell)
[11:08] <Jowi> sensae, some also say that removing the module snd_hda_intel and modprobe'ing it again fix it. that's all I can seem to find for now.
[11:08] <rdw200169> oxeimon: lets try installing again..
[11:08] <rdw200169> oxeimon: cd /usr/local
[11:08] <rdw200169> oxeimon: mkdir matlab
[11:08] <sensae> Jowi: Do you know how I would remove it?
[11:08] <rdw200169> oxeimon: cd matlab
[11:09] <oxeimon> "wchen@entropy:/usr/local/matlab74$ /media/cdrom0/install
[11:09] <oxeimon> bash: /media/cdrom0/install: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[11:09] <bruenig> oxeimon, paste that script
[11:09] <bruenig> !paste
[11:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:09] <Jowi> sensae, modprobe -r snd_hda_intel (I guess)
[11:09] <jonah_> nickrud, ok sorry i'm a bit slow can you guide me step by step then?
[11:09] <KOJV> Thank you nickrud!
[11:09] <nickrud> jonah_: sure,   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:10] <z10n> hmm, but say i wanted an x-shellscript to start when i boot my machine, how would i do that, sorry the link you gave me only tells me about applications
[11:10] <fen1x> when I run g++ it doesn't do anything, like it just accepts it and moves on
[11:10] <sensae> Jowi: ... I get a FATAL: Module is in use -_-
[11:10] <cookie> any1 have a min?
[11:10] <hechmann> Yes, anyone have a minute for me?
[11:10] <rdw200169> oxeimon: good call bruenig, make it easy...
[11:10] <nickrud> z10n: in that context, a shell script is an application
[11:10] <z10n> say a shell script from /etc/init.d that i want to run when i boot up the machine, is there a how-to for that?
[11:11] <oxeimon> lol
[11:11] <Jowi> sensae, close all apps that uses the soundcard. (alsamixer, esd etc)
[11:11] <bruenig> rdw200169, a lot better than these blind stabs, just read the thing and figure it out right
[11:11] <nickrud> !boot | z10n
[11:11] <z10n> ahh ok, so in the session manager command line, for the cl, i would put sudo /etc/init.d/application?
[11:11] <rdw200169> bruenig, yeah.
[11:11] <godzirra> wtf.  Everytime I reboot I have to reinstall my nvidia driver?  Anyone ever have this problem?  I install the nvidia driver after rebooting and it works fine.  Until I install it, it fails.
[11:11] <ubotu> z10n: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:11] <bruenig> godzirra, define install
[11:12] <nickrud> argh what happened to !boot
[11:12] <jonah_> nickrud, ok
[11:12] <nickrud> z10n: the proper way would be sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults
[11:12] <darkchr0n0s> oohbuntu
[11:12] <godzirra> bruenig: I'm using the binary install, because restricted drivers doesn't detect my card.  Hence I have to install via the NVIDIA script I downloaded from their website.
[11:12] <hechmann> I need to replace a kernel module (apparently) to get my ipw3945 from version 1.2.0mp to a new version that let's me get on the the internet wirelessly
[11:12] <nickrud> jonah_: what partition is it?
[11:12] <hechmann> Anyone have any idea how to do that?
[11:12] <jonah_> nickrud, not sure how do i check that?
[11:12] <bruenig> godzirra, just because restricted drivers doesn't detect it, that doesn't mean you have to install from their website
[11:13] <godzirra> bruenig: oh?
[11:13] <acecase> hello
[11:13] <nickrud> jonah_: sudo fdisk -l will show all your available partitions
[11:13] <godzirra> bruenig: elaborate please?
[11:13] <undauntedspirit> How can I schedule a manual fsck?
[11:13] <bruenig> godzirra, but in any case, you shouldn't need to be reinstalling each time either
[11:13] <Jowi> Badseed, not sure if this will help, but in the old days I used Mandrake (Mandriva) and needed eagle usb stuff. is that installed?
[11:13] <bruenig> godzirra, what happens before the reinstall, just fails and you go to console?
[11:13] <godzirra> I completely agree. ;)
[11:13] <nickrud> undauntedspirit: creating an empty file, /forcefsck  is supposed to force a fsck on boot
[11:13] <godzirra> fails with an error.
[11:13] <acecase> can anyone point me to a recent guide to using a ubuntu shared printer from a Windows client?
[11:13] <bruenig> godzirra, but keeps you in console right?
[11:13] <godzirra> yes.
[11:14] <z10n> sweet, thanks heaps :)
[11:14] <undauntedspirit> Nickrud:  Thanks
[11:14] <jonah_> nickrud, that gives me command not found
[11:14] <dheeraj_k> update through update manager is very slow :(
[11:14] <bruenig> godzirra, and have you tried to get it going without reinstalling it from console
[11:14] <Aishiko>  to do that I think I'll have to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, can I run a repair on Ubuntu to load the drivers for a new motherboard? or would I have to do a clean install
[11:14] <Badseed> Jowi: yes, it is but some guides say that it has to be removed cause it conflicts with the firmware i have to install
[11:14] <godzirra> bruenig: no, I'm not sure what to do other than that.
[11:14] <nickrud> jonah_: you did a typo somewhere then:   sudo    fdisk    -l
[11:14] <oxeimon> rdw200169: any ideas? o.0
[11:14] <Badseed> so i think i might try that
[11:14] <Jowi> Badseed, it's the USB version then I assumd?
[11:15] <Jowi> assume
[11:15] <bruenig> godzirra, modprobe nvidia perhaps and then see
[11:15] <dheeraj_k> my net speed is 2mbps but getting only 30kbps download speed
[11:15] <godzirra> ah.  Let me try that.  I bet you're right.
[11:15] <Gimp0r> hi, I only seem to be able to decrypt retail dvd's if i run totem as root, any idea what file needs chmodding?
[11:15] <godzirra> back in a moment.
[11:15] <alecw1> I'm having a program, and it's pretty urgent. For some reason, when I plug my headphones into my computer, the sound comes out of the headphones, but it STILL comes out of laptop speakers. This is a huge problem. I asked on the forums, and someone said to tick the box in the sound preferences under switches. But the problem is that I don't have a tickbox for the headphones. Can someone help?
[11:15] <Badseed> Jowi: yes, unfortunately
[11:15] <jonah_> nickrud, it's sdb
[11:15] <jonah_> nickrud, sdb1
[11:15] <Jowi> !info eagle-usb-utils
[11:15] <hechmann> Argh, can anyone tell me how to update a driver in Ubuntu?
[11:15] <ubotu> eagle-usb-utils: Userspace tools for Eagle USB ADSL modems. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 488 kB
[11:15] <Badseed> the lights are on but no synchronization
[11:16] <dheeraj_k> !info gusty
[11:16] <ubotu> Package gusty does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:16] <Jowi> Badseed, does the modems status light blink when you start the computer and then gets stable after a while?
[11:16] <Scunizi> hechmann, what driver?
[11:16] <hechmann> ipw3945 wireless driver
[11:16] <hechmann> Apparently there was a bug and it was fixed with a new version
[11:16] <nickrud> jonah_: then the next step is to get the UUID:   blkid  will list the uuid's for your devices.
[11:16] <hechmann> But I have no idea how to get the new version
[11:17] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[11:17] <Badseed> Jowi: it gets on a couple of times but then both go out
[11:17] <Scunizi> hechmann, have you used www.google.com/linux for your search?
[11:17] <rdw200169> oxeimon: i found something on the ubuntu-forums that seems related: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35172.html
[11:17] <Badseed> the modem works well under windows
[11:17] <hechmann> I don't even know what to search for
[11:17] <jonah_> nickrud, how do i do that then?
[11:17] <godzirra> bruenig: nope.
[11:17] <nickrud> jonah_:   blkid   in a terminal
[11:17] <godzirra> that doesnt fix it.
[11:17] <rdw200169> oxeimon, the unmounted, and mounted, as root, then installed and it worked
[11:18] <oxeimon> rdw200169: so I should unmount as my regular usr, and remount as root?
[11:18] <rdw200169> oxeimon, do it all as root
[11:18] <rdw200169> oxeimon, i.e. sudo su root
[11:19] <oxeimon> didn't we do that already, unmount and mount as root
[11:19] <Scunizi> hechmann, search for ipw3945
[11:19] <rdw200169> oxeimon, you remounted as your normal user
[11:19] <gonzaloaf_work> hi ,I'm  trying to mount a fs with sshfs, but I get this error: fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied, any clue?
[11:19] <oxeimon> rdw200169: same problem
[11:19] <oxeimon> xsetup fails
[11:19] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work:  use sudo before the command
[11:20] <rdw200169> oxeimon, he says that he had to unmount and mount as root, so try that
[11:20] <oxeimon> rdw200169: if I use "bash /media/cdrom0/install", xsetup fails, otherwise I get : "/bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[11:20] <Jowi> Badseed, have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm
[11:20] <oxeimon> that's what I just tried
[11:20] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, but just root will have access to the files when I mount it
[11:20] <Eagleray> Hi, does anyone know where I can get the source for the e1000-ich9 patch? Google appears to be pretty useless at finding it
[11:20] <Scunizi> !wireless | hechmann
[11:20] <ubotu> hechmann: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:20] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, I want the single user to access
[11:20] <KOJV> I need Ubuntu drivers for my GeForce FX5200 (just get them from Nvidia?) and my Microsoft Intellimouse Optical (wanna use the extra buttons).
[11:21] <nickrud> !nvidia | KOJV
[11:21] <ubotu> KOJV: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:21] <bruenig> oxeimon, I just told you to paste the script
[11:21] <godzirra> bruenig: Actually, if I reinstall the driver, it doesn't load a module either.
[11:21] <Tommy> Hello, I currently have ubuntu 7.04 running on a IBM Thinkpad T30. I am trying to get my wireless internet card working properly, Belkin F5D7011 v1212.  I have installed it using ndiswrapper and when I do a list it says present, However it still does not light up.  I read in some forums of people having success and I follow their steps but I can't seem to get it to work.
[11:21] <nickrud> !mouse | KOJV (ubotu is our knowledge repository ;)
[11:21] <Eagleray> (e1000-ich9 is a patch for the e1000 kernel driver to make it run on an ich9 platform)
[11:21] <ubotu> KOJV (ubotu is our knowledge repository ;): Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:21] <trappist> KOJV: you should be able to set up your extra buttons in xorg.conf without installing additional drivers
[11:21] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work:  use -o UID=022
[11:21] <rdw200169> oxeimon: try this: sudo mount -t iso9660 -o /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[11:21] <Luke_S> Is there any way to create an Ubuntu install cd (alternate) that has a custom usplash, no desktop manager, and the x window system with an X based app starting on boot???
[11:21] <rdw200169> oxeimon: after unmounting, of course
[11:21] <Scunizi> KOJV, the FX5200 will work fine with the Nvidia drivers in Synaptic.
[11:22] <rdw200169> oxeimon, as root, of course
[11:22] <Badseed> Jowi: yes, followed it except the step with the module removal which it says isn't necessary on 7.04
[11:22] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work:  use -o umask=222
[11:22] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work:  don't use UID
[11:22] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, how do I umount it?
[11:23] <cookie> how can i copy stuff off my server  to my home, without ftp because i dont have it installed
[11:23] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work:  that is one thing i would like to ask ppl here... only way i know is to logoff
[11:23] <oxeimon> rdw200169: there seem to be some syntax error in that
[11:23] <bruenig> oxeimon, paste the goddamn script for the love of god
[11:23] <darkchr0n0s> can anyone tell me. how to unmount drives mounted using sshfs
[11:23] <oxeimon> bruenig: paste what script??
[11:23] <erUSUL> cookie: if you have openssh you can use scp
[11:24] <godzirra> bruenig: suggestions?
[11:24] <boumboum> How do I repair GRUB in Ubuntu? I suffered partition table damage, ran testdisk, got the Ubuntu partition readable again from the LiveCD but it won't boot. It's a dual-boot system.
[11:24] <bruenig> oxeimon, /media/cdrom0/install, what else
[11:24] <KOJV> Thank you nickrud, you're being most helpful!
[11:24] <rdw200169> oxeimon: try this: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[11:24] <erUSUL> !grub | boumboum
[11:24] <ubotu> boumboum: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:24] <KOJV> Okay trappist!
[11:24] <nickrud> KOJV: low hanging fruit, but thanks anyway :)
[11:24] <KOJV> Okay Scunizi!
[11:24] <boumboum> !grub
[11:24] <boumboum> thanks
[11:24] <boumboum> !grub | boumboum
[11:24] <oxeimon> rdw200169: okay done.
[11:24] <rdw200169> let's try installing ... again...
[11:25] <KOJV> How can I make GAIM highlight messages with my name?
[11:25] <darkchr0n0s> any ideas about this --> how to unmount drives mounted using sshfs.
[11:25] <bruenig> rdw200169, please tell him to paste the script
[11:25] <eAi_> is it known that the upgrade to 7.10 fails through the update manager?
[11:25] <oxeimon> rdw200169: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39308/
[11:25] <rdw200169> oxeimon, do you know how to paste to the pastebin?
[11:25] <trappist> eAi_: try #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <Eagleray> Does anyone know where I can find the source code for the e1000-ich9 kernel patch? This patch allows the e1000 driver to work on ICH9-based platforms, but isn't yet available through kernel.org. I've tried google, and got nowhere.
[11:25] <Jowi> Badseed, then I don't have much else to add... If I remeber correctly, the lights go out if the firmware hasn't been loaded.
[11:25] <oxeimon> rdw200169: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39308/
[11:25] <boumboum> dark: I do not know. Have you tried a www.google.com/linux search?
[11:25] <eAi_> thanks trappist
[11:26] <KOJV> How can I make GAIM highlight messages with my name?
[11:26] <bruenig> oxeimon, /media/cdrom0/install -t, try that although that doesn't explain your error message
[11:26] <oxeimon> rdw200169: omg wtf it worked?
[11:26] <Badseed> Jowi: yes it's a strange situation. i think i'll play with the module, there's nothing else to do. But thanks a whole lot for your time and interest :)
[11:26] <rdw200169> oxeimon, huh?
[11:26] <Tommy> No one can help me still ?
[11:27] <oxeimon> rdw200169: well, I got the GUI to pop up
[11:27] <Jowi> Badseed, I remember that eagle modem with horror. least I could do. ;)
[11:27] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I'm getting other errors now though
[11:27] <oxeimon> o.0
[11:27] <Eagleray> Tommy: what's the issue?
[11:27] <Tommy> Hello, I currently have ubuntu 7.04 running on a IBM Thinkpad T30. I am trying to get my wireless internet card working properly, Belkin F5D7011 v1212.  I have installed it using ndiswrapper and when I do a list it says present, However it still does not light up.  I read in some forums of people having success and I follow their steps but I can't seem to get it to work.
[11:27] <bruenig> oxeimon, run it with -t
[11:27] <Jowi> Badseed, almost worth the investment to get  a "normal" modem with ethernet connection
[11:27] <Tommy> I was just wondering if you would have some other tips i can try
[11:27] <rdw200169> bruenig, you read fast
[11:27] <KOJV> How can I make GAIM highlight messages with my name?
[11:28] <Eagleray> Tommy: Ummm.... I can't say I've had much experience with ndiswrapper, but you're in the right place to ask for help
[11:28] <iamtim> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 64bit version. when i enable the ATI driver and reboot, X crashes with a black screen and CPU usage by X is pegged at 100%
[11:28] <Badseed> Jowi: yes, i think that would be a better solution. will do as soon as i have the cash to get rid of the usb modm!
[11:28] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work : still there ?
[11:28] <rdw200169> oxeimon:  required commands: awk, cd, echo, expr, ls, pwd, rm
[11:28] <Tommy> Ok thanks anyway Eagleray, I'll just keep waiting
[11:29] <rdw200169> oxeimon, i can't remember if awk is in the base distro, try it
[11:29] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, yes
[11:29] <bruenig> it is in coreutils
[11:29] <Eagleray> Tommy: good luck - wireless can be a pain to get working
[11:29] <rdw200169> oxeimon, as in $awk
[11:29] <Jowi> Badseed, hang on. which version is it? E4 or something else?
[11:29] <oxeimon> rdw200169: nothing happened
[11:29] <kritical> Can anyone tell me how I can tell what version a package is in apt-cache?
[11:29] <Eagleray> Tommy: I was fortunate enough to have an atheros chipset in mine, which is pretty well supported
[11:29] <godzirra> Everytime I reboot I have to reinstall my nvidia driver from the script downloaded from NVIDIA?  Anyone ever have this problem?  I install the nvidia driver after rebooting and it works fine.  Until I install it, X fails to start with a "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" error.
[11:29] <bruenig> oxeimon, have you run it with -t yet?
[11:29] <Eagleray> kritical: apt-cache show packagename
[11:29] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work : try fusermount -u
[11:29] <AutoMatriX> does anybody know how to link a MioC210 gps under linux ?
[11:29] <oxeimon> bruenig: yes, I just get the same stuff only in the terminal
[11:30] <bruenig> oxeimon, which is
[11:30] <rdw200169> oxeimon, it should have come up with it's usage
[11:30] <KOJV> xorg.conf is write protected, how do I redeem that?
[11:30] <oxeimon> bruenig: I got the installer to run...
[11:30] <Badseed> Jowi: it's the e4, which tends to work only by chance as i have understood from the various guides
[11:30] <rdw200169> oxeimon, try: sudo apt-get install awk
[11:30] <KOJV> How can I make GAIM highlight messages with my name?
[11:30] <Tommy> Eagleray, yea I don't get much luck.  Haha
[11:30] <Eagleray> kritical: that said, often there are many more versions available than just what's shown
[11:30] <oxeimon> hmm
[11:30] <oxeimon> original awk, gawk , or mawk?
[11:30] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, still using umask=222 I dont have access as a user
[11:30] <bruenig> it was better when these people still used windows, it really was
[11:31] <rdw200169> oxeimon: original
[11:31] <Eagleray> bruenig: haha
[11:31] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work : wait 1 sec, i'll give you whole command
[11:31] <Jtkiefer> what's the propername for xwindows to boot it from text mode
[11:31] <KOJV> xorg.conf is owned by root and I can't overwrite it. How can I fix my mouse config then?
[11:31] <Jowi> Badseed, it's in french. altough not difficult level: http://www.siteduzero.com/tuto-3-16791-1-installer-un-sagem-f-st-800-e4-sous-ubuntu-edgy-eft-6-10-ou-feisty-fawn-7-04.html
[11:31] <godzirra> bruenig: heh
[11:31] <Jowi> Badseed, might be worth a shot
[11:31] <Eagleray> Jtkiefer: X or startx, depending on what you want to do
[11:31] <godzirra> bruenig: I'm not a noob.. this is just a really weird problem.
[11:32] <kyled> is there a program i can use to scan my windows drive for a virus from ubuntu on a dual boot machine? i have a windows virus i cant shake
[11:32] <bruenig> godzirra, not you
[11:32] <KOJV> nickrud, is this fruit hanging too high?? :-o
[11:32] <oxeimon> rdw200169: it seems to be installed, but $awk still doesn't do anything
[11:32] <Eagleray> kyled: try ClamAV
[11:32] <Badseed> Jowi: thanks! :) missed that, will give it a try
[11:32] <nickrud> KOJV: use gksduo gedit to get access.  do /msg ubotu !root for an explanation
[11:32] <kyled> ok, thanks Eagleray
[11:32] <oxeimon> rdw200169: what is this for?
[11:32] <godzirra> bruenig: Ahh, good.  Any idea though?
[11:32] <ferronica> unable to enter bios menu
[11:33] <ferronica> and my numlock not working :(
[11:33] <nickrud> KOJV: short form explanation:  /etc is a system directory, you need admin privileges to write there
[11:33] <bruenig> oxeimon, not $awk, $ awk
[11:33] <bruenig> oxeimon, as in $ being the dollar sign in your terminal
[11:33] <Eagleray> ferronica: are you using a keyboard with an 'F-Lock' key?
[11:33] <Eagleray> ferronica: (often microsoft keyboards, but other brands can have them too)
[11:33] <rdw200169> oxeimon, the $ is the prompt
[11:33] <oxeimon> still nothing
[11:33] <rdw200169> bruenig, thanks
[11:34] <ferronica> Eagleray: no
[11:34] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work : sudo sshfs -o allow_other username@host:/source_folder/ destination/
[11:34] <shiznit> is there an app like obectdock for linux?
[11:34] <bruenig> !docks
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <shiznit> object-dock*
[11:34] <darkchr0n0s> shifty- : kiba dock
[11:34] <boumboum> I am going to reboot, thanks againf or the help on GRUB....now to see if it worked. :)
[11:34] <bruenig> shiznit, there are like 15 different docks
[11:34] <Eagleray> ferronica: have you tried your keyboard on another PC? IF not, try it - if you have the same problem on the second PC, your keyboard is stuffed
[11:34] <darkchr0n0s> shifty- : use kiba-dock
[11:34] <KOJV> Thank you nickrud, that should be added to the guides for configuring mouse...
[11:34] <shiznit> where do i find them
[11:34] <oxeimon> rdw200169: what do we need awk for?
[11:34] <darkchr0n0s> gonzaloaf_work : it works ?
[11:34] <Arepie> i just installed USP with the svn, everything works fine, it's just, the search part, i couldn't type in it.. how can i solve this problem?
[11:35] <rdw200169> oxeimon, the installer
[11:35] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I got the installer to start though
[11:35] <rdw200169> oxeimon, it was in the file you put in the pastebin, a list of required programs
[11:35] <Stormx2_> gonzaloaf_work: You need to do a sudo chmod 777 /dev/fuse
[11:35] <ferronica> okay
[11:35] <oxeimon> rdw200169: hm
[11:35] <Stormx2_> gonzaloaf_work: Don't ask me why, I don't know. it's a bug as of feisty I guess.
[11:35] <gonzaloaf_work> darkchr0n0s, yeah! thanks
[11:35] <bruenig> they usually keep matlab away from autistic children I thought, but I guess not
[11:35] <rdw200169> oxeimon, chances are the installer stopped when it tried to use a program it couldn't find, i don't know
[11:36] <darkchr0n0s> Stormx2_ : you can just use -o allow_others
[11:36] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I see. It said that there was a syntax problem with the license file, but I guess it might have been because of the lack of awk
[11:36] <godzirra> bruenig: I'm guessing you've no more ideas? :)
[11:36] <godzirra> Everytime I reboot I have to reinstall my nvidia driver from the script downloaded from NVIDIA?  Anyone ever have this problem?  I install the nvidia driver after rebooting and it works fine.  Until I install it, X fails to start with a "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" error.
[11:36] <nickrud> KOJV: you're absolutely right about it not being clear about admin privs
[11:36] <bruenig> godzirra, the error doesn't really make sense, x should load nvidia module if you have it specified as your driver
[11:37] <Eagleray> godzirra: try adding the kernel module to /etc/modules
[11:37] <shiznit> godzirra, i tried over and over and failed until i used Envy, then it finally installed
[11:37] <rdw200169> bruenig, hm... RTFM all day long it seems...
[11:37] <Eagleray> godzirra: this will force it to autoload on boot
[11:37] <Eagleray> godzirra: if that still doesn't work, rebuilding your initrd image may help
[11:37] <bruenig> rdw200169, the problem is more him completely ignoring advice, why even come in here
[11:37] <godzirra> Eagleray: how do I add it to /etc/modules ?
[11:38] <godzirra> oh duh.
[11:38] <Eagleray> godzirra: text editor, as root
[11:38] <Eagleray> godzirra: each module should have its own line
[11:38] <godzirra> Eagleray: yeah I know.. it was a stupidity moment on my part.
[11:38] <bruenig> godzirra, you just said that modprobing it doesn't work though
[11:38] <godzirra> shiznit: It installs fine each time and starts up fine each time.  Its just when I rebot it does weird stuff.
[11:38] <godzirra> bruenig: I agree.
[11:38] <Eagleray> bruenig: reminds me of a troll we had in here a few days ago
[11:38] <Tommy> Hello, I currently have ubuntu 7.04 running on a IBM Thinkpad T30. I am trying to get my wireless internet card working properly, Belkin F5D7011 v1212.  I have installed it using ndiswrapper and when I do a list it says present, However it still does not light up.  I read in some forums of people having success and I follow their steps but I can't seem to get it to work.
[11:38] <shiznit> i must have hit a nerve asking about a dock, this factoids thing is crazy
[11:38] <godzirra> Eagleray: I'm trying it now, but, see what bruenig said.
[11:38] <godzirra> modprobe didn't make any difference.
[11:38] <shiznit> godzirra, try envy
[11:39] <bruenig> !envy
[11:39] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:39] <Eagleray> godzirra: aha - interesting, as /etc/modules just auto-modprobes the module at boot time
[11:39] <shiznit> lol at that
[11:39] <godzirra> yeah.
[11:39] <godzirra> its not working if I load nvidia.
[11:39] <shiznit> i tried the restricted fucker and it kept rebooting me to black screen
[11:39] <neverblue2> !language
[11:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:39] <LjL> shiznit, language please
[11:39] <Eagleray> godzirra: are you sure the module is being installed correctly, or is it just getting insmodded from wherever the installer put it?
[11:39] <iamtim> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 64bit version. when i enable the ATI driver and reboot, X crashes with a black screen and CPU usage by X is pegged at 100%. can anyone recommend a solution?
[11:39] <godzirra> It never listed for me for restricted.
[11:40] <godzirra> Eagleray: I've no idea.  I run the NVIDIA script and it installs it and then X starts.  When I reboot, X fails to start.
[11:40] <neverblue2> godzirra, please dont use envy like shiznit recommend
[11:40] <rdw200169> bruenig, i like coming in here once in a while to chat with the masses, sort of like jumping into a fire pit
[11:40] <atlfalcons866> what file system should i use
[11:40] <godzirra> I'd prefer not to use envy. ;)
[11:40] <neverblue2> godzirra, 'lspci | grep VGA'
[11:40] <godzirra> Eagleray: modprobe didn't work.
[11:40] <darkchr0n0s> atlfalcons866 , errm.. use ext3 ?
[11:40] <shiznit> sorry about the language, but after what i went throught with the "standard" methos, and being how envy was the only think that actually freaking worked, im getting a lttle upsed
[11:40] <pike__> atlfalcons866: ext3 is standard
[11:40] <godzirra> neverblue2: unkown device 0427
[11:40] <neverblue2> ah
[11:40] <bruenig> godzirra, envy just does what you were doing anyways just in an error prone automatic fashion
[11:40] <atlfalcons866> why not resiserfs
[11:40] <godzirra> neverblue2: Its an 8400 go GS
[11:40] <chrisjs169|brb> is us.archive.ubuntu.com slow?
[11:41] <rdw200169> bruenig, quite a bit more dangerous than just answering questions on the launchpad
[11:41] <whiskeytango> godzirra, nvidia 8400 ?
[11:41] <neverblue2> right, I have been trying to find out what to do with the 'newer' nVidia cards
[11:41] <godzirra> Yes.
[11:41] <Eagleray> godzirra: do you know the name of the kernel module?
[11:41] <oxeimon> rdw200169: awk is definitely installed, $ awk doesn't do anything though
[11:41] <shiznit> the restricted manager, the nvidia packages in synaptic, all crap
[11:41] <whiskeytango> Its not supported atm :(
[11:41] <godzirra> Eagleray: No.  As far as I can tell it doesnt load a module when I run it.
[11:41] <bruenig> shiznit, you really don't understand how those work do you?
[11:41] <godzirra> whiskeytango: it works fine =p
[11:41] <Eagleray> godzirra: try running this:
[11:41] <whiskeytango> i have an 8500 GT and cant get it to do anything:(
[11:41] <whiskeytango> mak emine work!!!
[11:41] <whiskeytango> make mine^
[11:41] <rdw200169> oxeimon, don't worry about it then
[11:41] <shiznit> i dont really care, it actually installed the driver, unlike all the "standard" methods
[11:41] <godzirra> whiskeytango: you try the binary driver from the nvidia site?
[11:41] <atlfalcons866> is ext3 fast
[11:41] <whiskeytango> Aye
[11:41] <KOJV> How can I make GAIM highlight messages with my name in them?
[11:41] <godzirra> Hrm.
[11:42] <godzirra> weird.
[11:42] <Eagleray> godzirra: updatedb && locate nvidia | grep /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[11:42] <drewzf> whiskeytango, with the 8500GT you need the binary from nvidia's site
[11:42] <neverblue2> godzirra, have you tried the forums ?
[11:42] <shiznit> yes i even tried installign the binary, same error every time
[11:42] <whiskeytango> Gives me an error saying it doesnt recognize the filetype
[11:42] <drewzf> I had a siminlar problem
[11:42] <bruenig> shiznit, yeah well when you do understand how it works then you will realize
[11:42] <shiznit> failed to initialize
[11:42] <Eagleray> godzirra: what does it find (or not find)?
[11:42] <shiznit> no screen found
[11:42] <darkchr0n0s> atlfalcons866 , i think fat32 is fastest, but you don't wannt use it
[11:42] <godzirra> Eagleray: sec.  running updatedb.
[11:42] <rdw200169> oxeimon, let's move on, put in the pastebin as much of the error during install that you get, at the end.
[11:42] <bruenig> shiznit, the binaries aren't compiled to work with every card is the point
[11:42] <bruenig> shiznit, they can't be
[11:42] <shiznit> 8800 is the best selling card on the market
[11:42] <whiskeytango> grr wife wants me to take her to dinner, bbiafm
[11:42] <Eagleray> godzirra: note that updatedt needs to be run as root, or it will fail
[11:43] <Eagleray> godzirra: *updatedb
[11:43] <bruenig> shiznit, its done to cover the most card types
[11:43] <darkchr0n0s> shiznit 80GTX is
[11:43] <godzirra> Eagleray: I know.  :)  I'm fairly old to linux.  Just new to ubuntu and not great at X.
[11:43] <rdw200169> oxeimon, from there we can move back-wards
[11:43] <darkchr0n0s> shiznit 8800GTX is
[11:43] <Eagleray> godzirra: oh excellent :D
[11:43] <shiznit> 8800gtx is what i have
[11:43] <Semidios> Okay,  I recently Installed Ubuntu on a Dell I have laying around.  I am trying to use it as a file server for my Mac Laptop.  I have shared the second drive on the Linux box.  And using Connect to server on the Mac I can connect to it, but when I try to copy files over, it says I do not have permissions.  The file will show up in Linux, but be 0 bytes.  Anyone know how to get this working?
[11:43] <Semidios> also I am using NFS to do this
[11:43] <chrisjs169|brb> out of the 180KB/s I usually get from us.archive.ubuntu.com, I'm currently getting between 50KB/s and 70KB/s - is there a problem with the site?
[11:43] <Gimp0r> anyone know why i can only play retail dvd's if i run totem as root?
[11:44] <Eagleray> godzirra: just don't ask me ubuntu-specific questions.... I'm a debian user
[11:44] <godzirra> Eagleray: in the 2.6.20-16-generic directory (which is what uname -r shows) I have nvidia/nvidiafb.ko nvidia.ko
[11:44] <shiznit> ask momal when he logs on here, we went at it for 12 hours trying to get my 8800gtx to work, with a clean install
[11:44] <godzirra> Eagleray: ha.  me too.
[11:44] <shiznit> nothing worked until i found envy
[11:44] <neverblue2> Gimp0r, what other 'types' of DVDs are you looking to run in totem ?
[11:44] <andy_33> How do I check which computers that are on my network?
[11:44] <iadmin> hey guys
[11:44] <godzirra> Eagleray: In /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[11:44] <andy_33> any easy command for that?
[11:44] <neverblue2> andy_33, places/network
[11:44] <Eagleray> godzirra: ok, try this: "modprobe nvidia && modprobe nvidiafb"
[11:44] <drewzf> Has anyone seen an issue with firefox becoming generally unresponsive when inserting text?
[11:44] <Eagleray> godzirra: then try strating X
[11:44] <andy_33> neverblue: thanks
[11:44] <Eagleray> godzirra: *starting. What happens?
[11:45] <purity> Semidios - if you are not bothered about security chmod a+rwx /path_of_shared_nfs_drive
[11:45] <Gimp0r> andy_33 retail encrypted ones. It works as root but doesn;t decrypt otherwise
[11:45] <Eagleray> godzirra: does modprobe error, or simply return nothing?
[11:45] <Eagleray> godzirra: (nothing is good)
[11:45] <godzirra> Eagleray: modprobe reutrns nothing, and lsmod shows them loaded.
[11:45] <godzirra> starting x results in the same error.
[11:45] <andy_33> Gimp0r:  what? :x
[11:45] <godzirra> oh wait.
[11:45] <Electrosys> How do I show hide the hidden files in fiesty? I think I turned it on but now I can't remember how to turn it off
[11:45] <boojah> where can i get info about the versions of different packages in gutsy? i need to know the version of the iwlwifi driver currently in gutsy beta
[11:45] <neverblue2> Electrosys, ctrl-h
[11:45] <oxeimon> rdw200169: it says that I'm spamming the pastebin, and tells me to enable javascript, even though it's already enabled
[11:45] <godzirra> Eagleray: the error in X is "API mismatch: this NVIDIA driver component has version 100.14.19, but the NVIDIA kernel's module version does not match."
[11:46] <purity> electrosys - from nautilus ctrl -H
[11:46] <Eagleray> godzirra: aha! where did this driver come from?
[11:46] <andy_33> neverblue: When i went to network and checked the Windows network nothing comes up. I got a server on my network running windows tho
[11:46] <Semidios> purity, permissions on the second drive are set to 777..  or at least the umask in the fstab is set to 000
[11:46] <GNine> !xorg
[11:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:46] <godzirra> Eagleray: the NVIDIA site.
[11:46] <Gimp0r> i can only play dvd movies if i run totem as root. if i run it as a user it will not decrypt the css
[11:46] <rdw200169> oxeimon: i don't know, i never use it
[11:46] <Electrosys> purity, neverblue2: it seems to show the hidden files in the shell also. I think I turned it on using konqueor.
[11:46] <drewzf> Has anyone seen an issue with firefox becoming generally unresponsive when inserting text?
[11:46] <godzirra> Eagleray: i.e. sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run
[11:47] <oxeimon> Enter the MATLAB root directory > [/usr/local/matlab74] 
[11:47] <oxeimon> TMW_Archive license checkout failed.
[11:47] <oxeimon> Future license file format or misspelling in license file.
[11:47] <oxeimon>  The file was issued for a later version of FLEXnet Licensing than this
[11:47] <oxeimon>  program understands.
[11:47] <oxeimon> Feature:       TMW_Archive
[11:47] <neverblue2> Electrosys, ls -la will show hidden files in a shell
[11:47] <oxeimon> License text:  ""
[11:47] <oxeimon> License path:  /usr/local/matlab74/etc/license.dat
[11:47] <oxeimon> FLEXnet Licensing error:-90,313
[11:47] <Eagleray> godzirra: lol I mean did you get a precompiled kernel module, or compile your own?
[11:47] <oxeimon> For further information, refer to the FLEXnet Licensing End User Guide,
[11:47] <oxeimon> available at "www.macrovision.com".
[11:47] <neverblue2> !pastebin | oxeimon
[11:47] <ubotu> oxeimon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <purity> electrosys ls -al /path_of_files
[11:47] <godzirra> Ahh.
[11:47] <Eagleray> godzirra:  the precompiled ones can have issues
[11:47] <godzirra> It compiled my own.  It couldnt find the precompiled one.
[11:47] <drewzf> Someone HAS to know something about this, I'm using IE on Linux for gods sakes
[11:47] <Electrosys> purity, neverblue2: Is there an ls -don't show hidden files?
[11:47] <Eagleray> godzirra: hmm, very strange. Try getting a slightly older version of the driver, see if you get better results
[11:48] <Eagleray> godzirra: I'm wondering if it's a bug in the driver
[11:48] <andy_33> How do I check which computers are connected to my network?
[11:48] <darkchr0n0s> drewzf : remove all the plugins and try then
[11:48] <neverblue2> Electrosys, ls
[11:48] <Phaqui> Hi, I need to manually remove some entries from the "program launcher"-thingy. How can I do that?
[11:48] <rdw200169> oxeimon, reluctantly, you've got a problem, now, that is specifically related to a problem with your dvd, and the iso that matlab created
[11:48] <purity> electrosys - type at command prompt "ls -al /path_of_files" eg "ls -al /home/electrosys"
[11:48] <Eagleray> godzirra: before you do, make sure you rmmod the nvidia modules and delete them
[11:48] <GNine> IE on linux...
[11:48] <godzirra> Eagleray: the newest v ersion worked on a 64 biut ubuntu.
[11:48] <godzirra> which is whats really weird.
[11:49] <Electrosys> purity, neverblue2: how can I view the attributes of a file to see if its set to hidden or not?
[11:49] <Eagleray> GNine: IE will run in wine
[11:49] <GNine> so
[11:49] <oxeimon> rdw200169: what would you recommend? Do you think it's a problem with the dvd?
[11:49] <darkchr0n0s> GNine , and you think you have seen it all ! :P
[11:49] <godzirra> Eagleray: so delete all the nvidia.ko modules?
[11:49] <oxeimon> rdw200169: ie, would getting another dvd help?
[11:49] <rdw200169> oxeimon: hold on  a sec
[11:49] <GNine> tru, darkchr0n0s
[11:49] <Eagleray> godzirra: yup. And you aren't trying to install the 64bit version on 32bit ubuntu are you!?!?!?
[11:49] <godzirra> Nope.
[11:49] <godzirra> Hence the x86 in the filename ;)
[11:49] <purity> electrosys - hidden files start with a period eg .profile is a hidden file
[11:50] <neverblue2> Electrosys, hidden files have a '.' (period) in the name
[11:50] <Eagleray> godzirra: good point
[11:50] <koer> anyone know what the KDEnlive support channel is ?
[11:50] <Electrosys> purity, neverblue2: Thanks for all the great help.
[11:50] <drewzf> darkchr0n0s, Doesn't appear to help at all.
[11:50] <neverblue2> Electrosys, np
[11:50] <godzirra> k, give me a sec.  I have to boot up X to get my wireless working ;)
[11:51] <godzirra> so lemme change it to vesa.
[11:51] <erisco> with windows I know it is best to get the drive partition for the OS as small as possible to improve latency time. Does it matter with Ubuntu? I have a 200GB drive... should I go 10GB for ubuntu and 190GB for my file storage? Is there a way to have my home directory on the other partition in that case?
[11:51] <Eagleray> godzirra: try 'nv', it's the free nvidia driver that comes with X
[11:51] <Eagleray> godzirra: it's a damn sight better than vesa, but has no 3d - only 2d acceleration
[11:51] <godzirra> Eagleray: Yeah, I've tried that one and havent gotten it to work.
[11:52] <Eagleray> godzirra: :o
[11:52] <erisco> or should I just do a whole 200GB ext3 partition
[11:53] <Eagleray> GNine: [Citation Required] 
[11:53] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:53] <erisco> no one has any advice? :(
[11:53] <GNine> that statement about thinking outside the box... apply it
[11:53] <godzirra> Eagleray: hrmm...  where can you find the older versions of the driver?
[11:53] <godzirra> I only see the link to the current driver.
[11:54] <Eagleray> godzirra: it's been a few months, but last time I looked they had a link to an archive page with older versions of the driver
[11:54] <rdw200169> oxeimon: this seems like a common problem
[11:54] <oxeimon> rdw200169: how so?
[11:54] <godzirra> got iu
[11:54] <godzirra> it
[11:54] <rdw200169> oxeimon: http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/data/1-1824Z.html?solution=1-1824Z
[11:55] <purity> semidios - type ls -l /path_to_share and see what the permissions are
[11:55] <koer> help ! i try to save edited videos with mp3 music in Kdenlive but when i play them the sound is going way fast and it skips and cuts !!!
[11:56] <willgoitia> hey, anyone knows a site where i can read tutorials about equinox3d
[11:56] <GNine> is that as in "semiGod"  ?  what does that mean?
[11:57] <rabbitnightmare> wow ubuntu seems so much better than pclinuxos
[11:57] <willgoitia> I've searched in google but nothing comes..!
[11:57] <rabbitnightmare> it works so much faster and better
[11:57] <Eagleray> rabbitnightmare: ubuntu still has a ton of bugs though
[11:57] <rabbitnightmare> right
[11:58] <Eagleray> rabbitnightmare: and realistically the performance should be similar if set up correctly
[11:58] <Boumboum5> Ok, I've got my GRUB back. Works fine now. Have new problem now. Some of the Ubuntu system files seems to have gotten corrupted....it booots up part way, the splash screen with the progress bar...then when it gets to the text screen for devices...I just get a blinking cursor.... Is there a way to do a "repair install" of Ubuntu without damaging my tweaked settings and installed apps?
[11:58] <rabbitnightmare> as long as i can burn cds
[11:58] <rabbitnightmare> idk both have setup wizards
[11:58] <rabbitnightmare> and this is faster in almost every way and things work where they didnt there
[11:58] <GNine> Eagleray, would you care fixing them bugs instead of  tlkng sht
[11:59] <rabbitnightmare> ./configure didnt break x when i went to install a program i use often
[11:59] <rabbitnightmare> cd burning works here where it didnt there
[11:59] <GNine> oh.. wait.. you cant .. you dont even know how to code an html for myspace
[12:00] <rabbitnightmare> desktop effects work here where they didnt there
[12:00] <rabbitnightmare> so to me this is a vast improvement
[12:00] <Eagleray> GNine: stop trolling please, I do enough bugfixes at work without needing more. I wasn't talking shit - that statement regarding ubuntu's bugs was entirely accurate.
[12:00] <godzirra> GNine: thats a bad thing why? :p
[12:01] <erisco> okay, my only question is: how do you specify your home folder to be on a different partition from / ?
[12:01] <Semidios> purity, drwxrwxrwx 4 root users    16384  2007-19-01 16:41 Media
[12:01] <matthew__> How do you start an X app over ssh?
[12:01] <GNine> i just dont agree with your statement.. my system is running 100% fine .. so your "bugs" are definitely not mine..
[12:02] <Boumboum5> erisco: Hmm. I saw a web page about that just a while ago....have you done a google search?
[12:02] <Quak3r> matthew__, you can create the link to the server then use nautilus to open apps ?
[12:02] <erisco> Boumboum5, I have no idea what search terms to use
[12:02] <soothsayer> Can anyone tell me the difference between 'mail' in 'mailutils' and 'mailutils'?
[12:02] <Boumboum5> erisco: Ok let me see if I can find anything for you... it's definitely not standard...but I think it's possible.
[12:03] <purity> semidios - have you tried copying a single file to the root of this share?
[12:03] <siloko> erisco: create your partition, add it to fstab , mount partition on /home
[12:03] <godzirra> Eagleray: uhh, problem.
[12:03] <erisco> Boumboum5, it is highly convenient. You can wipe the / partition and upgrade ubuntu while leaving all of your files alone
[12:03] <matthew__> Quak3r:  ?  i don't know what you mean.  I have sshed into my desktop and want to launch evolution.  When I type "evolution" from the terminal, it says "cannot open display"
[12:03] <godzirra> Eagleray: nvidia.ko apparently wasnt the right thing to delete.  Its telling me (the script) Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.
[12:03] <rdw200169> Eagleray: have you tried other Distro's?
[12:04] <andy_33> How do I check which computers are connected to my network?
[12:04] <erisco> siloko, thanks. do you know of any place these steps are written (typed) down?
[12:04] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:04] <Semidios> purity, yes.  It shows up.  but it is 0 bytes.  When I drag it over on the Mac its says "The operation cannot be completed because you do not have sufficient privileges for some of the items."