[12:55] how so? [12:55] heh [12:57] groovy === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] hey are we going to have a kde 3.5.8 release? === jjesse [n=jjesse@216.132.62.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:33] evening :) === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] found this page http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php [01:46] anyone: is kde 3.5.8 going to be part of Gutsy, so early before oct 18?! [01:54] Will networkmanager 0.7 ship in Gutsy? === Pitabred [n=pita@c-67-190-48-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] DaSkreech: not according this list http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=network-manager+&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all [02:04] Blast :-) === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.11] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] morning jussio1 [02:10] doh [02:10] morning Jucato [02:11] heheh good morning! :) [02:11] you got it right :) [02:11] and good evening for you :P === jjesse is slowly learning [02:12] heheh [02:16] http://extragear.kde.org/apps/yakuake/ 2.8 final is t [02:16] out === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] hopefully it wileplace the beta version in gutsy [02:17] anyone: is kde 3.5.8 going to be part of Gutsy, so early before oct 18?! [02:19] I'm not sure if there are big significant changes between the beta and the final. I'll have to ask the maintainer (if he's still awake) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-042-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] but since we're on freeze already, I wonder if we could still do a version bump.... [02:20] i think the worst coffee known to man is hotel coffee [02:20] Jucato: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=29153 forthe chanlog and iyis always good void beta's [02:22] heh Changes *since* 2.8-beta1... he has to choose his words better :P [02:22] or at least be more consistent... [02:23] jjesse: I have not yet had the pleasure/displeasure of experiencing living/dining in a hotel :) [02:23] Jucato: but what about kde 3.5.8 [02:23] Jucato: i'm a consualtant -- on the road 3 out every 4 weeks [02:23] it seems a pre-version is accepted [02:23] jjesse: I've noticed... [02:24] I doubt that is a good thing [02:24] i have over 110 nights in a hotel since march 1st [02:24] oh well [02:24] jeroenvrp: you'll have to ask Riddell about 3.5.8... but I'm not sure if it will make it for Gutsy. perhaps kubuntu.org packages after gutsy [02:24] jjesse: wow... :) :( :/ [02:25] tell me about it [02:25] jjesse: wow... :) :( :/ <--- telling you about it [02:25] grin :) [02:25] hehehe [02:26] Jucato: we should somehow get together in real life, i think we would have fun hanging out [02:26] sure! tell me when you're in the neighborhood :) [02:26] Jucato: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/2007-October/subject.html [02:27] allthough I only see language packages (yet) [02:28] you'll have to ask Riddell. safe answer :) [02:28] Jucato: yeah I know, I will ask tomorrow [02:28] coz I don't think it would be very nice to ship with kde-3.5.8-svn :) [02:29] 3.5.8 will be sent to the packagers on the 7th and released if all is fine, on the 15th [02:29] so no svn, but very close to the 18th [02:37] probbaly depends on how stable, etc it is [02:37] because we'd have to ask for exception for it right? 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[02:45] there was a netsplit, yes [02:46] oh [02:46] hello Hobbsee [02:46] hiya [02:46] I just love these netsplits! :) [02:46] hi Hobbsee!!!!! :) === Mez [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] hi Jucato! [02:52] wow they sure don't make it easy sometimes to book the flight you want to book [02:56] I lived :) === DaSkreech has a comprehensive list of who got K-lined [02:57] O.O http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/10/yes-sarah-im-still-alive.html [02:57] DaSkreech: klined? nah... [02:58] Hobbsee: Mispelt Sarah [02:58] DaSkreech: that wasnt what i was looking at [02:59] His poke at Aussie? [03:00] no === apachelogger_ [n=me@N756P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] well hello there [03:13] hello [03:13] 90% complete on my super duper, multi-threaded, high speed, distributable address book [03:13] java rox! [03:13] howdy jjesse [03:13] howdy nixternal [03:13] lol! [03:13] you want the office last week? [03:13] me? yeah i loved the office last week [03:13] s/want/watch [03:13] we should be updating !nixternal soon :) [03:13] hahaha...I watched it, and actually liked that show [03:14] Jucato: update it to what? [03:14] add java-loving :) [03:14] hehe [03:14] Java is nice [03:14] :) [03:14] it is perfect for code dummies like me [03:14] :) [03:14] you? code dummy? c'mon! :P [03:15] Weren't we just talking about Hotel java? [03:15] oh ya, that is why I am taking c++ classes...I need to knock the rust off [03:15] anyone running kde4 and getting KNotify crash notices every 2 minutes or so? [03:15] DaSkreech: yes we were talking about hotel coffee :) [03:15] I used to code c++ in the 90s, but what I did was totally different than what we are familiar with [03:15] espresso would be nice right now... === ejg930 [n=Evan@oh-65-41-50-123.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ejg930 [n=Evan@oh-65-41-50-123.dyn.embarqhsd.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [03:20] love this bug #147865 [03:20] Launchpad bug 147865 in knetdockapp "Knetdockapp only shows packets on Kubuntu 7.10 Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147865 [03:20] doh [03:20] wrong one [03:21] bug #147864 [03:21] Launchpad bug 147864 in ubuntu "Profanity in error message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147864 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:22] damn can You get someone's e-mail from a blogger profile? [03:23] "Indeed this is from the SucKIT rootkit; the ostentatious usage of the f-word in error messages is a real giveaway. Pull the network cable please, your system has been compromised." - hahah :) [03:23] poor guy [03:23] yeah i saw that [03:23] *blinks* [03:26] No one wears a kilt quite like Jonathan [03:27] *blinks* [03:28] ah ha! [03:28] tell me where you got your quote and I'll tell you where I got mine! === Jucato points up [03:42] ah === DaSkreech points at http://dot.kde.org/1191271613/ [03:43] heh [03:43] nixternal: congrats on the Dot article :) [03:46] Why would a rootkit announce itself? [03:53] why thank you [04:10] Ok so I updated Emacs [04:10] to 22 [04:10] but 21 still starts [04:10] how's it doing that? [04:22] http://vocamus.net/dave/?p=40 [04:22] I love that story === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:48] nixternal: congrats on being a dot editor now [04:50] yay [04:50] (boo!) [04:50] conflicted there? [04:51] oh I mean't BOOL, which is defined as true :) [04:51] wow this hotel's wireless sucks [04:52] yeah [04:52] it's a hotel [04:53] actually some hotelo's have really good connections [05:12] thanks [05:13] actually...I don't think I am an editor...I just wrote up that story for Riddelll and he posted it for me [05:13] that's even better. get other people to do the dirty work for you :) [05:13] heh [05:14] that's so nixternal :) [05:14] bwahahah P [05:14] :P [05:14] that it is === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] nixternal: Is Wednesady A good day to upgrade to Gutsy? [06:20] See you all tomorrow === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.78.239] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mars [n=cb@LSt-Amand-152-33-21-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mars [n=cb@LSt-Amand-152-33-21-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === innovati [n=innovati@d193-46-180.home3.cgocable.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C2FD62.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:43] I don't like that bug 138189 has been marked as Fix Released [08:43] Launchpad bug 138189 in pykdeextensions "application tries to dlopen /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so (only found in the -dev package) " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138189 [08:44] making a -dev package a dep of a binary lib package is not a "Fix", it's a workaround at best [08:46] i think Riddelll knows - it was only ever a workaround [08:47] hope so, just doesn't "feel" right to me === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4479b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@chello084112133091.25.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === waylandbill [n=waylandb@70-101-124-72.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] stdin: no, it's wrong, fixes welcome [10:03] <_StefanS_> Riddelll: there's a bugfix release for knm, can it make it into gutsy? [10:03] <_StefanS_> Riddelll: it can be released this week or next [10:03] <_StefanS_> Riddelll: 0.2.1 [10:03] hm.. lots of questions about KDE 3.5.8 on gutsy... will it make it? [10:04] <_StefanS_> Jucato: is there any significant changes? [10:04] bug fixes mostly I guess [10:05] <_StefanS_> uhm, I dont think there's really many bugs (?) [10:05] after all, it is just a maintenance release :) === Jucato shrugs... [10:05] I really don't know. just fielding questions [10:05] <_StefanS_> Riddelll: I would then tell them to get going with the release, and alert tonio (or I might do it) to package it. [10:05] _StefanS_: if it's bug fixes only that's probably ok [10:06] <_StefanS_> Riddelll: it is. Thats also what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. [10:08] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I just wrote them on knm list, so lets hope we can make it. There's alot of fixes on WPA. [10:08] Jucato: I don't know, the timing is pretty bad (same for KDE 4 beta 3) [10:08] we might be best to take an SVN snapshot instead [10:09] 3.5.8 will be sent to the packagers on the 7th and released if all is fine, on the 15th [10:09] one of the guys asking about it. [10:09] another is sredna (the kate guy) in #kubuntu... === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442af.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marcel [n=marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@199.Red-83-36-56.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] hi all [10:59] thank you guys for publish the post in fridge about what we are doing in the canaries [10:59] it help us a lot to keep going and break walls === neversfelde_ [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44618.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] meduxa: it's on the Dot too [11:00] yes [11:01] great news === apachelogger__ [n=me@N832P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === acemo [n=acemoo@ip5657ebcc.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:25] how do i get mpg to work on kubuntu 7.10? 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[02:32] but the new "versus" [02:32] er.. sorry about that [02:32] actually, there are quite a few, but they don't even work at all [02:32] in the wild? there are? O.o [02:33] you would have to run your system as root in order to get infected === Jucato thought they would be confined to some networks/laboratories... [02:33] ya, some people created some to prove it can be done === Jucato sets up the su account === Jucato is now known as root [02:33] bite meh! [02:33] they pretty much are, but some people have tried to infect others [02:33] hehe [02:34] anyway, it seems the new "versus" theme lately is Kubuntu vs. PC-BSD 1.4 === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44790.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] 4 KDE distros released within days/weeks of each other... didn't sabdfl want synergy? :) [02:34] 4 "big" KDE distros I mean [02:35] orly? [02:35] PC-BSD has gotten much nicer [02:35] PC-BSD 1.4 last week, openSUSE 10.3 and Mandriva 2008 this week. then Kubuntu on the 18th [02:35] Mandriva bug 2008 in Core Packages "reloading the user config or system menu closes the menudrake window" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008 [02:35] O.o [02:35] heh [02:35] roflmao [02:35] aantipop: it's improper, but I don't have time to look into it [02:36] wait a sec...our belove ubotu tracks the enemy?!?! [02:36] hahahahaha [02:36] nixternal: even mozilla bugs I think [02:36] mozilla 1234 [02:36] Mozilla bug 1234 in Style System (CSS) "we need default style for the html 4 style tags" [Normal,Verified: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 [02:36] :D [02:36] I knew that, and also Debian, but I didn't know about Mandriva as well [02:36] Novell 1234 [02:36] haha [02:36] nah [02:37] oh wait.. it just said it didnt' exist [02:37] but it tracks it [02:37] did it message you? [02:37] yep [02:37] ahhh [02:37] Novell 100 [02:37] hehe got tired :) [02:37] Seveas is going to kill me :P [02:38] 07:37:58 [ ubotu] Error: Error getting Novell bug #190347: NotPermitted [02:38] interesting [02:38] heheh [02:38] wonder if it tracks pclos too lol [02:39] heh, PCLOS is the new Lindows [02:39] aah redhat's there [02:39] ubotu is a spy! [02:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about is a spy! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:39] shush you silly bot [02:39] lol [02:41] you know, if I did icons on the desktop, I think the way Gnome does them is pretty sharp...with the previews and what not...does KDE do this as well? I haven't used a desktop icon in ages [02:42] yeah I think so [02:43] I don't have icons either [02:43] I have lots of panel icons though [02:46] hrmm, the full circle is in copyright violation...oooh I'm telling :p [02:46] lol [02:46] tattle tale! [02:46] hehe...silly cc licenses [02:47] ugh! don't even get me started thinking about licenses! [02:47] it's so easy for software... GPL or BSD... but for content... nooooo! [02:48] only reason I realised this, is because in our composition class, we just covered plagerism and copyright violations...oddly enough [02:48] they don't cover spelling though :) [02:48] the only thing from making virtualbox perfect, screenshotting [02:48] especially my spelling [02:49] gr.. virtualbox-ose still isn't fixed on gutsy :( [02:49] what is the issue with it? [02:49] it requires modules that weren't packaged with it :) [02:49] I was just using the feisty deb they have linked on their website [02:49] ahh [02:49] so basically you can run virtualbox itself, but can't start any VM [02:50] well that is silly [02:50] vmware's situation is funny too... [02:50] vmware-player depends on vmware-modules which depend on a virtual package [02:50] vmware at least gives me the screenshot ability, but it is slower than vbox [02:50] not much slower than qemu+kqemu I bet :P [02:50] the fastest virtual software I have tried, is microsoft's virtual pc [02:50] it is similar, very similar to vbox, but whicked fast [02:51] I think I tried that before too... 2005... can't recall [02:51] almost like having the real os up and running natively [02:51] I just gave 2007 a shot to see how it was in comparison with vbox and vmware [02:51] you have to do some tricks in order to get *nix to work in it though [02:52] ie. it sets up a neomagic or s3 display driver for some stupid reason, so you need to reconfig x to use vesa, and you also have to add something to xorg.conf to get the mouse to work === jpatrick [n=patrick@235.Red-88-14-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] :) [02:55] hm... will the technique of installing "kubuntu-desktop" over Ubuntu or "ubuntu-desktop" over Kubuntu not work well anymore? [02:55] Riddell: what is the final day in which we can upload kubuntu-docs into main? I would like to get as much translation as possible complete before the last package [02:56] couldn't tell you, I have never tried [02:56] Riddell: the problem with ksystemlog is: Kernel log is just not pointed to /var/log/kern.log.0 by default. The Reason for no boot log is this bug i guess: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/98955 [02:56] Launchpad bug 98955 in upstart "logd not running" [Medium,Confirmed] [02:58] nixternal: not sure, maybe october 12th? [02:59] nixternal: you might want to ask pitti when the final language pack upload will be, that seems like a good time to match [02:59] aantipop: fancy doing patches for those? [03:00] Riddell: i have _no_ idea, im just a user, sorry [03:02] all i could do is file a bug against ksystemlog and hope someone else fixes ;P [03:02] aantipop: fair enough, and thanks for reporting, I can't guarantee it'll get fixed for release though, there's lots of other issues that need attention [03:02] aantipop: I suspect there will already be such bugs, you could add a comment with your discoveries [03:02] allright, its not a big issue anyway [03:03] nixternal: btw, did you see what I ping'ed you earlier about strigi? [03:04] (much earlier... like days earlier) === mars_ [n=cb@LSt-Amand-152-33-21-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aantipop [n=michael@p54B08222.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:13] what about strigi? [03:13] I am testing the build for yakuake-2.8 final release [03:13] yay it will make it? :) [03:13] if it is only closing one bug, I don't know [03:14] nixternal: the one you mentioned in the beta page is the strigi kicker applet, not the system tray applet I think [03:14] oh [03:14] I have no clue....I am not using strigi because I am scared after reading all of the bad stuff recently about it :) === Jucato looks agin [03:14] and still happening I think :) [03:15] but I pointed you to Riddell's blog post about it :P [03:15] ahh, yet another blog to read? who is that guy anyways? :p [03:15] hahaha [03:15] hehe, Aaron said "nobody can wear a kilt like Jonathan" :) [03:16] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2973 [03:16] although he did say "quilt" first hahaha [03:16] haha ya [03:16] I didn't catch it at first, thought it was a double post [03:16] ditto :) [03:16] Jucato: I screenshotted that I though [03:16] oh no I didn't [03:17] nixternal: you screnshotted the kicker applet (search bar like deskbar) [03:17] well, I know if you look at the first screeny, you will see I typed something in the kicker applet, but I didn't get that popup at all like in his screeny [03:18] oh yeah... [03:18] hello world.. heheh [03:18] haha [03:18] he's one of the lucky ones to actually get strigi to work :P [03:18] it is easy to miss, since I didn't get the cool menu like he did [03:18] he is a cheater, that's why :) [03:19] I haven't looked at strigi code...it is c# right? [03:19] it's easy to miss because of the big konqueror window distracting me :P [03:19] heh [03:19] and you didn't get the spinning throbber either :P [03:19] does strigi use mono? [03:20] relibtoolization seems to be hit or miss with some packages it seems [03:24] nixternal: certainly not [03:24] strigi is in c++ [03:24] ok [03:24] beagle is mono then? [03:24] yep [03:24] that's right, I remember you complaining about mono [03:25] and kerry, not john kerry, but kerry beagle :p [03:26] heheh [03:26] you had to google john kerry didn't you? [03:26] no [03:26] :P [03:26] haha [03:27] he is the great american flip-flopper...he got chewed up and spit out during our last presidential elections...good stuff [03:27] GNOME will slowly be overrun by Mono, I tell you.. just you wait :) [03:27] ya, they are some c# freaks [03:27] mono and python [03:27] and also the butt of gags and spoofs :) [03:27] (kerry I mean) [03:27] put them together, and you have a sick snake :) === Jucato googles "sick snake" === glatzor [n=renate@p54976F32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato is amused at how fast *buntu packages turn up at kde-apps.org just after some release [03:29] always good to see the new yakuake builds and works...now if I could only tell what has been fixed [03:29] changelog? [03:30] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Yakuake?content=29153 [03:30] have you ever read one of Sho_'s changelogs? [03:30] that one there on kde-apps I have :) [03:30] I always thought that Changelogs should be written in laymen's terms, but he incorporates his class names, function names, data types, and the rest in his :) [03:31] ya, same one I have...which is a better one to read :) [03:31] Jucato: going to package it? [03:31] Riddell: nixeternal already is :) [03:32] I need to put it in my PPA, and respond to the bug posts and see if people still experience the bugs [03:32] lol nixternal haha [03:32] sorry [03:32] Riddell: I just finished packaging it [03:32] excellent [03:32] I am running it right now, and I must say, you have never looked better [03:32] err, that was silly :) [03:32] hahaha [03:33] as it stands, I can only see where the final would only close one bug..is that enough to get a UVF acked? [03:33] how about that xinerama thingy? [03:33] argh, I need to start getting ready [03:34] ya, that might be another issue which was reported in LP, that is why I would like to see it tested by the users first before closing the bug with the changelog === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] I shall return in a few hours, I need to get rolling....Java is calling me unfortunately [03:34] btw, what do you do when for example, this app (like yakuake) has a new version that Debian doesn't have yet? how do you package it? from scratch? [03:34] yuck! lol === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] [03:35] no, I use uupdate -u most of the times to just update from a previous package [03:35] but I will do the debian package as well when I get home and upload it to the debian repos [03:35] uupdate -u? hm.. gotta learn that... [03:35] bbiaf === Vaelen [n=andrew@ppp-70-135-65-108.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180074003.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] Heyha === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44512.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:09] yay, I wasn't the only one who didn't finish this java project, but I am much closer than the rest :) [05:09] yeeeeehaw! [05:10] heh [05:14] what's the project about? [05:19] a client/server, multi-threaded address book [05:19] simple retardation really [05:21] if you can port it to C++/Qt/KDE... maybe you can have a better kaddressboook? [05:22] lol [05:23] c++ sockets, threads, and all of that good stuff is much better than java [05:23] I so hated kaddressbook 2 weeks ago... when I was fixing about 100+ contacts... [05:23] heh, so did I === Jucato is glad he isn't alone... [05:24] slowly, little by little, as my PIM needs grow, I'm starting to dislike kdepim... or at least the default ones... [05:24] started w/ korganizer... [05:24] speaking of which, ryanakca what is up with that egroupware server? I had to delete it because it was annoying me with password requests all of the time...it would never connect, and and top of it, nobody else was using it :( [05:25] I like KDEPIM, I switched from Mutt about 3 years ago and it is rocking along for me [05:25] it rarely crashes for me [05:25] well I have to be more specific... kdepim includes a lot of apps :) [05:25] korganizer, kaddressbook, knotes.. those are bugging me :) [05:26] and kontact integration of knotes and akgregator... :) [05:29] heh, I use knotes to hold silly passwords that I can't change..ie mailing lists and revu [05:29] if people were to go through them though, they would think they were errors the way they are === jpatrick [n=patrick@235.Red-88-14-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@168-160.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@d54C56F83.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@235.Red-88-14-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180068004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:23] uboontu.com does not work with Konqi...yay! === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:33] what is uboontu.com? [06:33] a search site for stuff from official sources (appartently) [06:33] ah thats right they renamed the ubuntu search engine [06:33] jpatrick: i believe it uses tuxfaimly.com or a site like that [06:36] I am hungry...who is buying lunch? === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44512.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:37] or not let me see if ubuntu search is still around [06:38] ah it isnt the same one :) [06:52] Riddell: what is the reason that the language packs of kde 3.5.8 are already in the repos. are we going to have 3.5.8 in gutsy? === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44512.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:54] jeroenvrp: it's not 3.5.8, it's just a snapshot from yesterday [06:55] but I might do the same with the rest of KDE 3.5 [06:55] Riddell: well kde 3.5.8 will be released oct 15 as I understood [06:56] thanks for your answere === DaSkreech [n=alteroo@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:03] oct 15th is good but that is still a slim chance that we can get it in repo afaik [07:06] impossible, I guess [07:06] if you talk about Gutsy final === apachelogger__ [n=me@N727P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:08] mhb: thats what i was thinking too it only gives 4 days to get it in but kde 3.5.8 is a security update no? [07:09] upstream security update [07:10] i believe we release around 18-19 [07:10] gnomefreak: upstream security update which is not tested much [07:10] true [07:12] something could break when building packages or such, and we would be in big trouble [07:13] KDE is not a small component of Kubuntu [07:13] yeah i just forgot we need testing time as well [07:13] nothing small about kde at all [07:14] testing? why? [07:14] you dont trust our mad skillz? [07:15]