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rdw200169andy_33: you can use nmap12:04
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andy_33andy_33: yeah, but I dont know the command :/12:04
silokoerisco: not off the top of my head - ubuntuforums would be a good place to start12:04
geniisoothsayer: Mailutils provides a commandline mail function so you can do: mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere <text here>12:04
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silokoerisco: it's a very common thing to do12:04
rdw200169andy_33: use something like nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/2412:05
eriscosiloko, I hear it is a good setup. Is it something I have to worry about before or after I make all the necessary partitions?12:05
soothsayergenii: Thanks.12:05
silokoerisco: if you do it from sys install most installers even let you do as part of the preinstal partitioning12:05
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geniisoothsayer: np12:05
eriscosiloko, I will just be using parted12:05
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silokoerisco:  on an existing install?12:05
rdw200169andy_33, it'll find hosts, even behind personal-firewalls...12:05
shiznitparted works great off the livecd12:06
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eriscosiloko, nope. Everything is being hosed and reloaded12:06
shiznitmuch better than the installed12:06
shiznitinstaller12:06
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andy_33rdw200169:  Failed to find device eth1 which was referenced in /proc/net/route12:06
silokoerisco: then it's very straight forward12:06
silokoerisco: create the partiton during the install12:06
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andy_33rdw200169:  it scanned 256 ip addresses and 0 hosts came up:\12:06
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rdw200169andy_33, of course, use your subnet12:06
Boumboum5erisco: Hm. if the purpose is simply to presever all the files in /home, what I would do is create a new partition for it, the copy all the files in /home to the new partition. Then you can wipe the old one and upgrade ubuntu over it.  Do you want more details on how to do that?12:06
GNineto say ubuntu is great but it has a lot of bugs .. is an oxymoron..  i say the most probable cause of your issues is :  human error12:06
eriscosiloko, yes... and at which stage do I setup /home to be on the other partition?12:06
silokoerisco: and simply tell the installer you want that partition to be your home dir12:06
godzirraEagleray: any ideas what to do now?12:07
Thegeektechniquequestion... Do you think adobe illustrator cs2 will work with the new version of WINE?12:07
andy_33rdw200169:  subnet, what? :x12:07
Eagleraygodzirra: back, sorry - had a phonecall12:07
rdw200169andy_33, what's your ip and subnet?12:07
eriscosiloko, you sure it prompts me for that?12:07
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andy_33rdw200169:  my ip is 10.0.0.412:07
Eagleraygodzirra: hold up while I scroll back and read your comments12:07
GNinecheck thyself before you wreck thyself12:07
andy_33rdw200169:  I don't know what subnet is tho12:07
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rdw200169andy_33, ok, try nmap -sP 10.0.0.0/2412:07
silokoerisco: if you choose custom partitioning you can do what you like12:07
godzirraEagleray: sure thing.  (Basiclaly it can't build the nvidia module from the shell script because it s unable to load nvidia.ko)12:07
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silokoerisco: if you let the installer do it for you - then you'll get it all on one partition ;)12:08
rdw200169andy_33: the /24 = 255.255.255.012:08
andy_33rdw200169:  ah, thats the ip range?12:08
puritysemidios - so if you type in ls -al /path_to_share what information do you get for the file you have tried to copy over?12:08
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eriscosiloko, hmm alright I will take a look. lets say that /home was not setup properly and was put on the same partition as /12:08
Boumboum5erisco: once the new partition is created and mounted, you can dreate the /home directory by typine /mkdir home    it's not actually /home but a duplicate in another directory. Would that soit your needs? You can copy back after the install.12:08
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eriscosiloko, will I be able to correct it afterwards?12:08
silokoerisco: yes12:08
rdw200169andy_33, i don't know, i'm guessing, but it will work anyway, and just have errors to the network ip's that are unroutable12:08
andy_33rdw200169:  K, is it any way I can resolve the ip's into the host name?12:08
Boumboum5the installer does, if you select "manual partitioning"12:09
eriscosiloko, okay I will give it a whirl. thanks12:09
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:09
rdw200169andy_33, not really, unless there's a dns server somewhere tracking them12:09
eriscoBoumboum5, thanks.12:09
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silokoerisco: good luck :)12:09
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Eagleraygodzirra: it _should_ be recompiling that on its own12:09
godzirraGNine: Its a spell you cast in wizardry to heal your characters.12:09
basculeGNine: 2 os di 2 os .. maybe :)12:09
godzirraEagleray: its not  :)12:09
rdw200169andy_33, which i doubt seriously on a local network...12:09
Boumboum5good luck erisco :)12:09
soothsayergenii: Do you know, is there an alternative to the 'mailutils' package that provides a command for sending mail and has fewer dependencies (13.4MB to install mailutils)12:09
andy_33rdw200169:  truer12:10
Eagleraygodzirra: can you give me a step-by-step of what you're doing, where it fails, and with what error?12:10
Semidiospurity, -rwxrwxrwx 1 root users    0  2007-10-01  17:0812:10
alcaponageI have a question12:10
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:10
Eaglerayrdw200169: yup12:10
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alcaponageHow do I get the menu down on the bottom?12:10
geniisoothsayer: Well, it also installs other things, the BSD mail handling utilities.12:10
Boumboum5soothsayer: this probably isn't what you are looking for, but I use webmail myself---browser-based mail.....hotmail, yahoo, and google all provide them.12:10
alcaponageLike the firefox12:10
oxeimonrdw200169: so yeah, that mathworks site didn't help, but thank you so much for all your help12:10
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WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:11
alcaponageHow do I make it so it looks like the mac osx?12:11
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basculeWoet: look into fish12:11
GNinei know semi = 18 wheeler = tractor truck , dios : does not compute12:11
geniisoothsayer: If you need command-line mail functions however, you need the mailutils package12:11
rdw200169Eagleray, i find that Ubuntu has a lot fewer than others...12:11
soothsayerBoumboum5: No it isn't what I'm looking for.12:11
puritysemidios - what happens if you put a file in the share from the linux box and copy it over to the mac, from the mac12:11
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oxeimonrdw200169: I think I'm going to take a break now, and probably come back to this some other time.12:11
godzirrash Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run, accept license agreement, Tell it to go ahead even though there's a driver on the system (it detects the newer version), tell it I dont want to check online for one, hit ok when it doesnt find a precompiled kernel interface, (then it starts trying to build and fails)12:11
Eaglerayrdw200169: It has tons less than many do12:11
silokoalcaponage: rightclick the panel - properties - orientation - choose bottom12:11
MalbertoWoet: don't make flood please !12:11
soothsayergenii: Okay, thanks. That was my question.12:11
Eaglerayrdw200169: but there are still a lot there12:11
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Eaglerayrdw200169: part of that's due to it being based on debian unstable12:11
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lucas_hi. i updated to xorg 7.3 and now the "enie" key doesn't work. it is a spanish key12:11
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rdw200169Eagleray, and ubuntu has just about the strongest user-base...12:11
basculelucas_: get a grip12:12
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Eaglerayrdw200169: and part of that's the inclusion of bleeding edge software without a long testing period12:12
geniisoothsayer: np12:12
lucas_bascule: what?12:12
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Eaglerayrdw200169: yup, by far the largest desktop userbase12:12
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tdizzyhello12:12
bascule!es | lucas_12:12
ubotulucas_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:12
eriscoone more question :P12:12
tdizzycan anyone help me with a problem?12:12
rdw200169Eagleray, and that's what's gonna cause both problems and solutions...12:12
Boumboum5alcaponage: I found a trick for that.....http://image.google.com   do an image search... term "ubuntu osx theme OR themes"....it will show a bunch of images of desktops that look like OSX and you can pick the one you like... chances are, it's on a website that lists what theme that is and how to get it.12:12
EricThi all. I just installed Ubuntu on my new shiny poweredge 2950 server - it recognizes the ethernet cards fine, but now i need assistance configuring them. i know all the proper IP's and stuff. can someone assist me?12:12
eriscosay I install a package that is 2GB. Is this space taken from / or /home?12:12
Eaglerayrdw200169: indeed...12:13
eriscowhere is the bulk of the package installed to?12:13
soothsayergenii: On second thought, surely there must be an alternative? mailutils is pulling in guile and mysql.12:13
rdw200169Eagleray, but at least the ubuntuforums are quick to find an answer to obscure things...12:13
silokoerisco: /12:13
lucas_bascule: im not looking for help in spanish. i just want to know how to change my keyboard layout12:13
Eaglerayrdw200169: Yep. #ubuntu's also pretty good most of the time12:13
eriscosiloko, hmm. A ubuntu install is how many gigs? 2-3?12:13
alcaponagesiloko: How do i make it look like the picture in herehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:13
basculelucas_: 'enie' key 'any' key, try somewhere more clueless12:13
godzirraerisco: depends what you install.12:13
heguruEricT: you installed ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop ?12:13
Boumboum5soothsayer: there are a number of mail programs for linux. I do not know enough to compare or know which suits your needs best. There's dozens of them, I know that.12:13
D4N`hi12:13
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Eaglerayrdw200169: it's why I tend to hang out here sometimes rather than #debian, #debian is a lot slower12:13
godzirraerisco: you  can probably get one under 500 megs if you tried.  you just woudlnt have x :)12:13
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carlosV2hi12:13
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silokoerisco: some people create a partition for /usr/local which holds a lot of use application data - but most sys packages go off root12:14
rdw200169oxeimon: you did add your license information to the license file, right?12:14
andy_33rdw200169:  under 10.0.0.7 it says MAC Address: xx.x.x.x.x.x..x.x  (NextGenTel Holding ASA)12:14
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lucas_bascule: asshole12:14
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EricTheguru, ubuntu-server amd6412:14
Semidiospurity, it opens on the mac just fine.  copys over great.12:14
godzirrawell crap.12:14
andy_33rdw200169:  Can i say for sure that it's not a windows computer?12:14
godzirraMy X is now broken and I cant fix it this time.12:14
heguruEricT: will the IP's be static or dhcp?12:14
EricTstatic12:14
andy_33andy_33:  i'm pretty confused12:14
soothsayerBoumboum5: My need is to send mail from a script.12:14
tdizzyi accidentally deleted a partition (my ubuntu one) and then was able to restore it using TestDisk. all my files are back but it wont load to the boot list and just boots to windows. how to i restore my ability to boot into ubuntu?12:14
heguruEricT: type sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces12:14
eriscogodzirra, siloko, I was planning on my / partition to be 10GB... perhaps I want to allow 20GB or so in the event that I have large apps to install12:14
EricTi'v been in there12:14
GNineminimum is 5gig.. but you'll endup at 12-15 gigs anyways (for an average desktop system) , erisco12:14
rdw200169andy_33, don't know12:14
heguruEricT: you have to put the configuration in there12:14
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carlosV2i'm doing a script and i need to know if user execute it with 'sudo ./script' or only with './script' (or with './script' in root acount). is it posible?12:15
EricTright. i *think* i did it right12:15
darkchr0n0s!grub12:15
silokoerisco: my root is about a gig, my /usr is about 2.75 gigs and my /home is 1.3 pretty tidy really12:15
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:15
godzirraerisco: that works.  I've got X installed and I've got 3.4 gigs used currently.12:15
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rdw200169andy_33, the mac will only tell you who manufactured the NIC12:15
EricTbut lest, it doesn't work12:15
darkchr0n0s!grub | tdizzy12:15
daylightercarlosV2: it will tell you if you need root privs or not12:15
ubotutdizzy: please see above12:15
EricTi also tried restarting networking12:15
andy_33rdw200169:  NIC being?12:15
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tdizzythank you12:15
eriscogodzirra, the 10gb or the 20?12:15
Boumboum5erisco: umm...that's kinda hard to answer....it's like saying "wow, how'd they fit all those people into that little television box?"....oh..you mean what directory..../home/yourname  whatever yourname is on your install.12:15
heguruEricT: paste the contents of your interfaces file to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:15
rdw200169andy_33, network interface card12:15
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godzirraerisco: either one.  as I said, I'm only using 3.4gigs.12:15
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atlfalcons866how can i convert jfs to ext312:15
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D4N`interest12:16
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carlosV2daylighter, the script is done by me12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  thanks :)12:16
rdw200169andy_33, nmap can do a lot more than just scan IP ranges, but it's a difficult tool to use,12:16
X3nhi there, im just wondering, sometimes when i run rythmbox it doesnt play any sound, why is this?12:16
eriscosiloko, are things in /usr separate from ubuntu? Could I upgrade / to 7.10 when it comes out and everything in /usr still is compatible?12:16
tomwgood evening. Anyone know what has happened to the automatix website?12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, I'm trying to locate a windows computer on my network12:16
carlosV2i want to say to user if needs to execute it like su before 'sudo' comands executes12:16
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X3nits pretty random, but no sound is playing now either12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  cant seem how to find it tho xD12:16
LjLtomw: we don't know and we honestly don't care12:16
godzirraEagleray: sooo any ideas?12:16
LjL!automatix > tomw    (tomw, see the private message from Ubotu)12:16
purity<semidios> what have you put in your /etc/exports file?12:16
silokoerisco: it's part of the system12:16
rdw200169andy_33, the other use, i use a lot, is the port-scanner, nmap -sS IP12:17
Boumboum5yes siloko is correct.......they go off root if they're "for everyone" and they go of /home/yourname if it's just for you (I THINK)12:17
darkchr0n0s!automatix12:17
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)12:17
Woeti just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??12:17
eriscosiloko, so why do you have yours separated?12:17
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, but it's illegal doing port scans, aint it?12:17
Eagleraygodzirra: can you tell me the exact stage you are failing at, and any errors?12:17
darkchr0n0sWoet : type ultraedit in console12:17
shizniti installed automatix on my first ubuntu install and it broke upgrade12:17
carlosV2daylighter, there are some comand like 'who' that allows to do it?12:17
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shizniti wish i would have known12:17
Boumboum5tdizzy: I've been dealing with just that problem myself today.....:)  I can help...12:17
X3nwhy does rythmbox sometimes not play any sound when playing mp3's??12:17
Eagleraygodzirra: I asked this before, but not sure if you spotted it12:17
godzirraEagleray: It fails after it says its 100% done building.12:17
atlfalcons866how can i convert jfs to ext312:17
godzirraEagleray: I don't tihnk I did.12:17
eriscosiloko, or do you?12:18
daylighterI am not sure carlosV212:18
godzirraEagleray: in the shell script.12:18
tomwLjl: sorry for wasting your time. I'll make sure it never happens again.  Thanks for being nice about it.12:18
Semidiospurity, /media/Media 192.168.1.1/24 (rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async)12:18
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EricThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/12:18
Boumboum5tdizzy: you probably need to repair GRUB, which is what boots ubunto.12:18
carlosV2ok daylighter, np. thank you :)12:18
Eagleraygodzirra: is it trying to re-use anything in /tmp?12:18
rdw200169andy_33, not when it's MY network...12:18
EricTheguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/12:18
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Naxahi12:18
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, that being the exception, sorry12:18
godzirraEagleray: how would I know that? :)12:18
silokoerisco: yes i do - more for hygiene really - when i say it's part of the system it's more the application stuff12:18
Boumboum5tdizzy: the URL on how is at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntoAfterinstallingWindows12:18
EricTthats not a paste, since i can't paste from DRAC5, but thats the contents, minus the comments12:18
Eagleraygodzirra: try nuking anyting that looks likely in /tmp before running the shell script12:18
carlosV2bye ;)12:18
godzirraok.12:18
geniiBah was going to suggest Nail as a commandline alternative for mailutils but soothsayer left now12:18
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rdw200169andy_33, are you trying to scan and ISP's subnet or something?12:19
Eagleraygodzirra: if you're not sure, just reboot - that will nuke /tmp automatically12:19
silokoerisco: but everything remains compatable when you upgarde - don't worry12:19
NaxaHow can I see my remote X from here? I've tryied ssh -X host but the problem is that X is already running.12:19
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eriscosiloko, well the purpose of me separating /home from / on different partitions is to preserve my own files12:19
P_Kableanybody knows why there is no longer thumbnails displayed for my *cr2 files since 2 days ???12:19
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andy_33rdw200169:  I'm just trying to figure out the ip of a windows computer connected to my network12:19
silokoerisco: the fact it is on a different partition makes NO difference to a version upgrade :)12:19
eriscosiloko, are you saying if I back up /usr it will preserve my applications as well or something?12:19
godzirraEagleray: ok, let me try that and I'll try reinstalling the old vcersion.12:19
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godzirraversion12:19
sensaeHello12:19
eriscosiloko, yeah but I like to wipe it clean and reload it rather than a dist-upgrade12:19
rdw200169andy_33, and you can't look at that computer to find out?12:19
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andy_33rdw200169:  my friend wont let me12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  -.-12:20
EricTheguru, just wanted to enure you saw my link?12:20
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silokoerisco: well then perhaps you are bettwer off with just a / and /home partition12:20
rdw200169andy_33, how are you getting your ip address?12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  through a router,12:20
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eriscosiloko, I am just confused as to the benefit of separating /usr from /12:20
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rdw200169andy_33, from a router somewhere, but can you get access to it?12:20
andy_33rdw200169:  located at 10.0.0.112:20
matthew__how do I open GUI applications over ssh?12:20
sensaeThat's great - I got fed up getting my onboard sound to work, so I threw in an old audigy 2 I had lying around, and ubuntu autodetected it12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, through telnet12:20
disownI did a manual compile and install of alsa. Now I have to redo that procedure for each kernel upgrade. Can I get the ubuntu default alsa back somehow??12:20
heguruEricT: yes i did12:21
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rdw200169andy_33, what kind of router?12:21
EricTthank you.12:21
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Woeti just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??12:21
heguruEricT: remove the dns-nameserver option12:21
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heguruEricT: and try again12:21
silokoerisco: not every appi install is part of a distribution12:21
EricTok12:21
andy_33rdw200169:  2sec12:21
alcaponageHow do I make my firefox icon... etc interactive?12:21
GNineyes, siloko12:21
GNinesystem update/upgrade wont delete your usr account12:21
alcaponagehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:21
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godzirraEagleray: Huh.  Apparently that did it.  Its still installing, but it got further than it ever has.12:21
alcaponagelike in that picture12:21
WoetDoes someone know a good app to program PHP with..?12:21
Woet?12:21
NaxaI logged in to my remote computer with ssh -X, but there was already an X running... I typed xinit -- :1 and I see that a new X is started, but it's not forwareded to my screen. what shoud i do?12:21
preactionWoet, vim12:21
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eriscosiloko, my home is 5.6GB and my /usr is about 2.5GB12:21
preactionWoet, preferably vim version 7, it has the nice tab functions. if you want a GUI, use gvim12:21
EricTok. it pings IP's, but not hostnames.12:22
andy_33Netopia 335112:22
rdw200169andy_33, the router has a lease file, for all the dhcp addresses it put out, and may or may not give you access to it12:22
sensaeI've loaded some mp3s into rhythmbox, and they are high kbps (320 or so). Rhythmbox shows them as being 15+ minutes long when they're only 5 minutes12:22
EricTso i need to add something to resolv.conf ;)12:22
godzirraEagleray: restarting now to see if it works.12:22
rdw200169EricT, you may have a DNS related problem12:22
rdw200169EricT, check /etc/resolv.conf12:22
alcaponageHow do I make my bottom tastbar interactive?12:22
heguruEricT: yes add the dns-server to /etc/resolve.conf12:22
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heguruEricT: nameserver 72.52.220.112:22
rdw200169EricT, like "nameserver IP"12:22
rdw200169heguru, ah, you beat me12:23
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EricTyup, fixed it12:23
hegururdw200169: :)12:23
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godzirraEagleray: that was apparently it =p12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: excellent12:23
EricTactually it already had that nameserver in there, but it didn't work. my host provided me with a different set12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: it now builds?12:23
silokoalcaponage: interactive?12:23
alcaponagesiloko yes12:23
alcaponagecan you go to this link?12:23
rdw200169EricT, the quickest way to troubleshoot that is by using nslookup, and checking what nameserver it says it's using12:23
godzirraEagleray: it bult, and it stays built when I reboot.12:23
alcaponagehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:23
eriscosiloko, my plan is 45GB NTFS, 2GB Swap, 15GB / (ext3), and 88GB /home (ext3)12:23
godzirralemme make sure its not tryring to use the vesa driver still first.12:23
puritysemidios try the following command from your mac and try again maybe with a different mount point temporarily  mount -o -P FILESERVERIP:/SHARE /MOUNTPOINT12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: yay!12:23
Jtkieferok quick question, how do I set it up so that someone other than root can run x12:24
JtkieferI'm having trouble getting it to work12:24
rdw200169EricT, step 1, ping it, step 2, nslookup it12:24
godzirraEagleray: yeah.. weird. ;)12:24
sensaeDoes anyone know why rhythmbox would misread the length of high-kbps songs?12:24
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godzirraoh well, thanks for all your help :)12:24
silokoerisco: well you obviously have plenty of room . . .12:24
eriscosiloko, indeed. 200gb drive12:24
EricTnow if they provided me with 2 nameservers, i just add a new line "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"12:24
heguruJtkiefer: by default evrery new user can run X12:24
Eagleraygodzirra: no worries, glad your problem's sorted12:24
heguruEricT: yes12:24
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eriscosiloko, I just want to figure out tactical ways to divide it proportionally12:24
EricTthen another line of "nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy" ?12:24
rdw200169EricT, most network troubleshooting guides never mention that for some unknown reason...12:24
andy_33rdw200169:  Btw, I am allowed to scan all ip ranged within 10.0.0.0/24 right?12:24
rdw200169EricT yup12:24
Jtkieferodd, I killed x and logged out and it gave me a user cannot run x error12:24
heguruEricT: you can also use www.opendns.com servers12:24
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rdw200169andy_33, sure12:24
alcaponagesiloko: All the programs are icons on the bottom and they move if you move your mouse near it12:24
EricTexcellent. guess i'm doing alright then ;)12:25
andy_33rdw200169:  aight12:25
rabbitnightmareis there something as good as ksmoothdock for gnome?12:25
rdw200169EricT, or root servers12:25
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rdw200169andy_33, it's like a mass ping12:25
EricTfirst ever server setup went smooth. just didn't know to remove that line12:25
silokoerisco: well your suggestion sounds sensible . . .12:25
andy_33rdw200169:  because, I can maybe run a nmap -P0 10.0.0.0/2412:25
andy_33rdw200169:  maybe I'll find more hosts then12:25
EricTbut i know now =D12:25
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EricTthanks guys12:25
rabbitnightmareif not better12:25
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:25
silokoerisco: although i personally would leave out the NTFS partition :)12:25
eriscosiloko, you just make me question that setup when you said you have /usr separate as well. I am wondering of the benefits and advantages of it12:25
WoetI cant find "fish"12:25
eriscosiloko, so would I :( if only wine was flawless12:26
AucklaWow Azuraes is a buggy mofo. And has been forever now.12:26
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heguruEricT: :) 2950 works VERY WELL with Ubuntu (except Dapper LTS which fails to boot after installation due to bad initrd :()12:26
rdw200169andy_33, can't hurt12:26
silokoerisco: use a virtual machine . . . house your vm on an ext3 partition works a treat for me12:26
rabbitnightmareAzereus works but it should be labled treat with care it is java that is buggy12:26
EricThmm, i'm on dapper LTS12:26
WoetDoes someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk (sftpdrive for windows)12:26
WoetI cant find "fish"12:26
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EricTwhen it fails to boot on initrd, i press enter and it boots.12:26
silokoerisco: and all the tools are FOSS12:26
eriscosiloko, it is actually kind of cool. The NTFS will have windows xp pro which I can dual boot into... but I also will have vmplayer to boot up windows virtually (but off of the real NTFS partition)12:26
rdw200169andy_33, me, i'll port-scan anybody, and the only problem i'll get is that some personal firewalls on windows will black-list my ip address12:26
heguruEricT: do you have RAID?12:26
EricTyes12:27
EricTRAID512:27
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eriscoSiliconViper, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually12:27
rdw200169andy_33, but there's a legal cop-out, because no one can know if you did that, or some software that was running on your behalf12:27
Boumboum5Woet: when you install apps via wine, it requires a reboot to fully take effect. After a reboot, it should be in Applications/Wine/Ultraedit or similar.12:27
EricTinteresting though... dell sent wrong server first without RAID and i could not get that one past initrd12:27
eriscosiloko, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually12:27
Jtkieferheguru, it says creating new authorization file, then says error this user is not authorized to run x12:27
silokoerisco: ok that does sound very flexible12:27
Semidiospurity, i did a mkdir /Media to use as the mount point on my Mac.  then did the command and it gives me "Mount nfs: /Media : Permission denied"       if you could /msg me the next step I would appreciate it.  I have to step away from the comp for a bit..  10min or so12:27
geniiheguru: 2950 = Dell PowerEdge 2950?12:28
rdw200169andy_33, some filesharing apps in windows are notorious for port-scanning12:28
EricTthis one has raid and larger hard drives, those are the only change. works great.12:28
Jtkieferheguru, I'm going to go in and try to edit the auth file directly to see if that works12:28
EricTyes, genii12:28
silokoerisco: although i was truggling to find a use for a proper boot - but then you mentioned games :)12:28
heguruEricT: well then it must be the one without RAID that fails then :D12:28
siloko*struggling*12:28
eriscosiloko, hehe :P12:28
EricTyeah, mine without raid failed horribly.12:28
rdw200169andy_33, it's a *great* way to test a firewall...12:28
EricTso i went to 6.0612:28
AucklaOMFG, in the history of that program, I have never used it and had it "NOT" Be the buggiest piece I've ever used on any operating system.12:28
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AucklaHolly crap!12:28
EricTthat worked fine, but i needed raid.12:28
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geniiEricT: I have one in front of me now LOL and 3  2450 Dell too12:28
andy_33rdw200169:  nice, thanks mate (:12:28
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Boumboum5Jtkiefer: as root, use chmod (that changes the file permissions12:28
eriscosiloko, until I get another gig of ram or something the virtual computer is a little sluggish. its fine for basic stuff though12:28
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EricTlol nice :)12:29
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alecw1I'm currently learning Spanish, and I've been looking for a great spanish learning app. Can someone suggest a program? I've tried Kverbos, I didn't like it.12:29
Filthpighm12:29
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EricTany suggestions as things to do on first boot?12:29
silokoerisco: another gig of ram - sigh - you kids!!12:29
Boumboum5sounds like Jtkiefer's install of X has been damaged or corrupted somehow. Perhaps a reinstall?12:29
eriscosiloko, :P well ubuntu + windows xp = maxing out 1 gig of ram12:29
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EricTso just for clarification, raid5 with 3 HDD's makes the first 2 usable, and the last one a backup, right?12:29
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alcaponageHow do I make my programs from the taskbar on top to the bottom?12:30
alcaponageTo make it look like mac osx12:30
Boumboum5sounds very cool, erisco12:30
alcaponagewhere all the icons are interactive12:30
FilthpigUpgraded to gutsy now.. Gaim is discontinued, but why doesn't gutsy ship with pidgin or something like it?12:30
heguruEricT: yes12:30
silokoalcaponage: you can drag them from one to the other12:30
eriscoBoumboum5, I worked hard on the idea :P well, I got plenty of help setting it up12:30
EricTthought so. :)12:30
daylighterlet's say I downloaded and installed nvidia's latest drivers and I want to go back to the nvidia-glx driver, how do I remove the one I compiled myself12:30
ChousukeFilthpig: Gaim is Pidgin12:30
Boumboum5ok bye all12:30
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EricTthis should be fun. this is a pretty powerful server12:31
alcaponagehey siloko12:31
EricTdual quad core procs :)12:31
alcaponagehave you looked at the link i gave you?12:31
heguruEricT: well the parity info is usually striped i.e. stored across all three disks12:31
alcaponageI want it to be like the video on youtube12:31
silokoalcaponage: no . . .12:31
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eriscosiloko, thanks for the help. I'll get partitioning now12:31
alcaponagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m423g-W-iVA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker%2Ecom%2Fsoftware%2Fpretty%2Dand%2Dproductive%2Fpower%2Dup%2Dyour%2Dlinux%2Ddesktop%2Dwith%2Dcompiz%2Dfusion%2D291002%2Ephp12:31
thesaint4444hi guys, what is the safest way to resize a partition on my primary hard disk and still leave all the data in place?12:31
silokoerisco: no worries - good luck12:31
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FilthpigChousuke: yes, I know, but why doesn't ubuntu ship with it?12:31
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Chousuke!info pidgin12:32
heguruJtkiefer: did you fix your Xauthority file?12:32
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:32
Chousukehmm12:32
heguruJtkiefer: you should use xauth command for it12:32
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silokoalcaponage: you want me to watch a video of someones desktop ???12:32
ben-haili am from brasil12:32
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EricTheguru, i'll read about it. no need for me to waste your time on basics :)12:32
ChousukeFilthpig: yes it does12:32
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ChousukeFilthpig: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin12:33
EricTyou helped me out a bunch. that was bugging me. it litterally took me 30 seconds to get it working in 6.06 on the old server12:33
EricTbut that line was killing me12:33
Jtkieferok I'll try that12:33
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alcaponagesiloko: lol no, I want to know how I get it to look like that12:33
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alcaponagesiloko: I want my ubuntu to have the interactive thing on the bottom12:34
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silokoalcaponage: aaahh you want compiz-fusion12:34
Jtkieferbe back in a sec, switching systems12:35
alcaponagesiloko: i already have compiz-fusion, but i want the cool looking thing on the bottom12:35
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alcaponagesiloko: I want the firefox and azerus thing on the bottom, it moves around and it is animated12:35
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doafeehelp plz12:36
EricTugh.12:36
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EricTtrying to install openssh-server and its asking for the cdrom.12:36
EricTshouldn't it just find it online and be happy?12:36
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heguruEricT: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:36
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kyledi have a problem with grub, i have a dual boot system and now all of a sudden my windows xp home boot option is no longer in the grub boot menu. can anyone help?12:36
heguruEricT: comment the line with cdrom12:36
kitcheEricT: yes it will if your remove the cd from your sources.list12:36
silokoalcaponage: ok well jumping icons?? not my thing really - have you checked out the icon settings in the compiz-manager?12:37
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EricThm. worked now12:37
alcaponagesiloko: no i have not, what do i do12:37
EricTgeniuses i tell you, geniuses!12:37
silokoalcaponage: there's also a compiz channel for people who max out the capabilities (which i don't)12:37
EricTand should i set my hostname to my IP, or does it matter?12:37
alcaponagesiloko: what channel is that12:37
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tdizz1i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the linux options12:38
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heguruEricT: hostname to IP?12:38
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EricTyeah.12:38
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tdizz1ubuntu options*12:38
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heguruheguru: set your hostname to your hostname12:38
heguru^EricT12:39
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Jtkieferhere's what xauth is returning, which I don't pretend to understand12:39
Jtkieferhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39314/12:39
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EricTwhen i installed, it asked for a hostname..12:39
Arepieurmmm.. my computer have some problem with wine, is there any other program that works like wine? to run windows application..12:39
EricTi set it to "Server", should i set it to my IP?12:39
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EricTor does it matter?12:39
SlartArepie: what kind of applications are you looking to run?12:39
tdizz1can anyone help me?12:40
heguruEricT: no, set it to whatever you want to name your server, shouldn't really matter unless you're running mail/web server12:40
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EricTit is a web server12:40
ArepieSlart: urmmm.. internet download manager12:40
EricTfor a very popular online forum12:40
EricT:)12:40
thesaint4444anyone know what is the safest way to rezise my / partion ? I need to leave everything intact....12:40
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EricTthesaint4444, gparted12:40
LjLthesaint4444: the safest way is backing it up, recreating it and restoring it.12:40
D-Flamethesaint4444: Back up the data on it first too12:40
EricTuse the gparted boot disk.12:40
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LjLEricT: that's hardly a safe way.12:40
EricTdo'h.12:41
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heguruJtkiefer: it looks fine12:41
EricTignore me. i'm a n00b.12:41
thesaint4444LjL - server is in a data center - i dont have access....12:41
JtkieferI know, maybe I should just reinstall x and see if that helps12:41
ArepieSlart: i installed wine, but, i can't run it.. i don't know why.. it works earlier, but, suddenly it disappear..12:41
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heguruJtkiefer: can you paste the error again?12:41
LjLthesaint4444: then all ways are equally unsafe. (very.)12:41
SlartArepie: there are some... qemu, vmware and such.. they, more or less, emulate a whole machine so they are a bit slower.. nothing to play Wow on.. but I'd keep trying with wine... these other programs will, afaik, require you to boot windows in a  window to run your program..12:41
kitcheArepie: open up terminal and type wine wine is a command line program12:41
jackfusionhow do I make sure something dose not start up in ps -A when linux starts up?12:41
Semidiospurity, I reexcuted the command using sudo.  it worked.  I copied the file over and it showed up perfectly.  I think I know what changes I have to make now to get it running.  Thank you.  I'll be in touch if I get stuck12:41
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SlartArepie: no logs? error messages?12:42
clemhello folks12:42
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EricTanyone here use folding@home?12:42
EricTcurious12:42
LjLthesaint4444: besides, if you can't physically access the computer, it means you can't work on the / partition while it's unmounted, which in turn means that you can't do it at all.12:42
clemppl, I just installed xUbuntu, and added openoffice to it12:42
geokeratzclem> hi12:42
LjL!ot12:42
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:42
Arepiekitche: yea, i done with that.. it recognize, and it was there, but when i try to start the program, it won't load..12:42
clemBUT: ooffice window is weird12:42
tdizz1 i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone help me to fix this?12:42
geniijackfusion: If something is running there is no way to make it not show up in ps -A aside from killing it12:43
ArepieSlart: where can i find the error msg?12:43
clemany hints on using ooffice in xubuntu?12:43
Jtkieferheguru, it was essentially, creating new auth file .serverauth.11427 error user not authorized to run x12:43
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Filthpigwhat the.. Pidgin won't connect me to msn because I lack some ssl libs, but everything I can find that seems relevant is installed.. and aMSN also runs12:43
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LjLclem: perhaps try #xubuntu12:43
Jtkiefereven though it apparently is authorized to run x12:43
clem#xubuntu12:43
LjLclem: /join #xubuntu12:43
thesaint4444LjL: so the only way really is to go there use a boot disk and take it from there.... ?12:43
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LjLthesaint4444: yup.12:43
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clemLjL, will do that - thx12:43
ArepieSlart: if you can teach me how to clean all wine conf file, and let me setup from the very beginning is a good idea..12:44
alcaponageDoes anyone know how to set up the interactive icons?12:44
LaxHello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?12:44
SlartArepie: just run your program from a terminal, like if I want to run.. Oblivion, I'd run "wine OblivionLauncher.exe" .. then I get the output into that same window while the program runs12:44
LjLLax: temporarily, or forever?12:44
fliegenderfroschLax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options12:44
ArepieSlart: i told you, i done with that.. it don't work.. it don't load the file..12:44
clemhm.. and how do I join #xubuntu? (sorry for the newbie Q)12:44
SlartArepie: how do you start your download manager?12:45
thesaint4444LjL: ok, thanks, the machine has 4 other scsi disks in it - can i set them up remotely to store the data?12:45
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tdizz1can anyone please help me?  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options.12:45
kitcheclem: /join #ubuntu12:45
SlartArepie: and you don't get any error messages at all when you type that?12:45
NessieLiberationclem: /j #xubuntu12:45
kitcheclem: xubuntu of course :) missed the x12:45
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usr13Arepie, I think you can navigate to the .exe file via the file manager and just click on it.12:45
LjLthesaint4444: probably. but you still won't be able to resize your / partition remotely12:45
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clemoh, right12:45
clem(duh)12:45
jackfusionso the only to make sure a process like apache dose not start up when linux starts up is to reinstall linux correct?12:45
LjLjackfusion: ?!12:45
ArepieSlart: first, there was a menu for wine in the main menu.. but, when i try to click on that.. it won't load.. so i try from the terminal.. wine dman.exe, still don't work..12:46
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usr13jackfusion,  no that's not so.12:46
tdizz1can no one help me?12:46
migatxusomebody here has a Axim X50v ?12:46
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thesaint4444LjL: yes i will leave the route partition alone, how would i make the other disks available?12:46
Arepieusr13: yup.. and run with wine.. i try that too12:46
jackfusionis ps -A a list of running processes12:46
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jackfusion?12:46
LjLthesaint4444: partition them, format the partitions you create, and mount them.12:46
tdizz1i forgot to note that i can access all the files on the ubuntu partition with the ubuntu live CD12:46
LaxHello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?. (sorry for double, was dced)12:47
migatxuan X50v from Dell12:47
LjLjackfusion: yes it is12:47
fliegenderfroschLax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options12:47
thesaint4444LjL: how do i actually see them to partition them?12:47
LjLLax: change "splash" into "nosplash" in the kernel parameters12:47
ArepieSlart: just to confirm.. can i use cedega to run application?12:47
jackfusionthen how do I make sure a process dose not start up when linux starts up?12:47
tdizz1HELP!12:47
ZenOswyni've setup ubuntu as a small web server. with the basic security measures taken care of (firewall, chrootkit, securing sshd) are there any other major security hazards i should be aware of?12:47
usr13jackfusion, sudo services-admin12:47
clemhm, nobody in #xubuntu12:48
LjLthesaint4444: you should see them fine as their device nodes - /dev/sd# or /dev/hd# where # is a number.12:48
clemwill keep looking12:48
SlartArepie: you do change the current directory so dman.exe shows up if you do a "ls"12:48
jackfusionok thank you12:48
LaxLjL: where can i edit that? im just a noob windows user12:48
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SlartArepie: I douby Cedege will be any better at running it compared to wine.. but who knows12:48
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usr13jackfusion, NP.  Yea, just go thru and check / uncheck to your heart's delight :)12:48
heguruLax: if you just want to see the boot output without disabling splash forever, Press CTRL+F1 and CTL+F8 during boot12:48
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LjLLax: /boot/grub/menu.lst. search for "defoptions".12:48
MikeD_i upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and now the display manager won't stay running.  I'm using the 7.04 live cd, what can I do to fix my hd installation?12:48
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amiasanyone solved the 'non power of two textures' error when starting compiz ?12:49
ArepieSlart: i try for wine..12:49
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LjL!compiz > amias    (amias, see the private message from Ubotu)12:49
thesaint4444LjL: ok, thanks, i think i can see them, how can i be sure exactly what they are?12:49
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tdizz1 i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone PLEASE help me to fix this?12:49
usr13jackfusion, It's also important to realize that when you install a new server or service, it will be running when the install is done.12:49
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LjLthesaint4444: you can't. but "fdisk -l /dev/whatever" will tell you how big a drive it is, so you can probably guess.12:50
thesaint4444LjL: ok, and that is not dangerous in any way?12:50
LjLthesaint4444: that command above? no, as long as it's with the "-l" option.12:50
usr13tdizz1, So, you deleted one of your partitions?  Which one?12:50
tdizz1the ubuntu one12:50
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tdizz1but i got it back12:50
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LaxLjl: the file is write protected :p.. how do i edit it as admin?12:51
LjL!sudo > Lax    (Lax, see the private message from Ubotu)12:51
MikeD_can i use the live CD to install the OS to the HD without destroying the existing data?12:51
LjLLax: "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"12:51
thesaint4444Ljl: ok, thanks and then use fdisk to partition an format?12:51
LjL!install > MikeD_    (MikeD_, see the private message from Ubotu) yes12:51
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tdizz1and i followed a guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29 to get the list of OSs back, but it gives me an error 17 when i try to boot into any of the ubuntu options12:51
DoYouKnowmike, yeah, if you have some unpartitioned space12:51
MikeD_thanks12:52
LjLthesaint4444: yes. of course, *that* is dangerous - you need to make very sure you're partitioning and formatting the right drive.12:52
clemppl, could anyone recommend a chat server to ask about Firefox?12:52
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LjLclem: /join #firefox12:52
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clemLjL, okidoki12:52
thesaint4444LjL: ok, I get the idea very clearly... you can partition and format from root another disk without a problem?12:52
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thesaint4444LjL: but make sure it is the right disk :-)12:53
LjLthesaint4444: yes, although the kernel might then ask you to reboot (but that's unlikely if there were no partitions on the drive before)12:53
Laxthanks going to try a reboot then ;)12:53
drewzfHow can I check what provides something?12:53
drewzfin aptitude12:53
thesaint4444LjL: that wouldn't be a problem.....12:53
LjLLax: wait12:53
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LjLLax: "sudo update-grub" first12:53
LjLdrewzf: "provides" as in the "Provides:" attribute?12:54
drewzfLjL, Precisely12:54
LjLdrewzf: hold on12:54
tdizz1Can't anyone PLEASE help me??!!12:54
usr13tdizz1, Not sure how to advise you.  Not enough information.  Need to know what parition or partitions you deleted.  If you deleted  the partition that / is mounted on, the you're pretty well hosed up.  If you deleted a swap partition, that can be fixed.  If you dleeted a partition that has /home mounted on it, well that's recoverable I guess.  But, as I say, unless we know which partition and what data you have lost, we will be unable to advise you.12:54
tdizz1i deleted a / partition12:55
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tdizz1and got everything back from it12:55
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LjLdrewzf:  aptitude search "~Dprovides:<packagename>"12:55
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LjLdrewzf: without the <>12:55
tdizz1i got the GRUB thing back, but it wont let me boot into the ubuntu partition12:55
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hegurutdizz1: how did you delete the / partition? using windows installer? or fdisk?12:56
drewzfhmm12:56
LjLhe's saying he restored the / partition.12:56
tdizz1i deleted it with GParted12:56
tdizz1by accident12:56
hegurumaybe he just restored the MBR12:56
tdizz1i had an extra one12:56
tdizz1and got them confused12:56
tdizz1lol12:56
LjLtdizz1: how were you able to recover the partition?12:56
tdizz1idk what i did to restore it; i used TestDisk12:57
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LjLtestdisk, i see.12:57
LjLtdizz1: do you know what the partition is called? (like /dev/sda1 for instance)12:57
usr13tdizz1, If you deleted that partition, I'm not sure how you could have gotten anything back from it.  Exactly WHAT did you do?  (Not totally sure you have actually deleted a partition - Because if you've really deleted a partition and re-created it, there will be no data on it, and if it's the root partition, (/), you might as well go on and re-install.12:57
alcaponageCan anyone help me with my cube?12:57
LjL!info testdisk12:57
alcaponageI have everything turned on but the cube isn't working12:57
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB12:57
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thesaint4444LJl - could i say move /home to the other disk?12:58
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grandyhello...  i have a question about gutsy... if  i upgrade to the beta will i miss anything that is released in the final?  Does doing an apt-get upgrade make a beta install equivalent to final (in a few weeks or whenever it's done)?  Or will I be stuck with a system with broken parts?12:58
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what exactly do you mean by "everything turned on"?12:59
tdizz1my ubuntu partition is called /dev/hda612:59
usr13tdizz1, GRUB does not boot partitions, it boots kernels.  So, are we to assume you have deleted a kernel?12:59
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heguru!gutsy > grandy12:59
tdizz1im not completely sure12:59
LjLthesaint4444: yes, you could, but to avoid messing things up, you should at a point (i.e. when swiching /home's) boot in single-user mode, which i doubt is possible remotely12:59
grandyheguru:  huh?12:59
barzinii have a bucket of these how do I resolve them ...libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed  gnome-keyring: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed12:59
LjLtdizz1: you have extended partitions?12:59
NessieLiberation!final > grandy12:59
tdizz1yeah, one01:00
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tdizz1and a couple partitions above it in the list in GParted01:00
tdizz1lol im a linux newb01:00
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usr13tdizz1, what do you see when grub comes up at boot time?  Do you see any kernels?  Do you see one that is designated "recovery-mode"?01:00
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tdizz1yes i do, and the kernels01:01
tdizz1all of them give me an error 1701:01
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tdizz1the only option in the list that boots is Windows XP01:01
usr13tdizz1, So, you used GParted and deleted a partition?01:01
thesaint4444LjL: i think it is possible, i have a drac (dell remote access card) but i have enough on my plate to add that to the list!01:01
tdizz1yes01:01
tdizz1and restored it using TestDisk01:01
LjLtdizz1: then type "e" on a recovery mode kernel and make sure that everywhere it has a partition name, it's the right partition. if there is a UUID (a long string of number and digits), change it into the partition name.01:01
tdizz1ok01:01
thesaint4444LjL: would i boot into single user mode then move /home ?01:02
usr13tdizz1,  and that partition would be hda6?01:02
spiderpighello everyone01:02
MikeD_what are the commands to perform a system update from CLI?  (or a url to a walkthrough)01:02
tdizz1yes it is01:02
fujinapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade01:02
Chousukewith sudo01:02
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barziniif 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is not a real pkg why is ti a depends and how to I get rid of it01:02
ChousukeI prefer aptitude though. :P01:02
usr13tdizz1, Do you know what was mounted on that partition?01:02
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tdizz1what do u mean?01:02
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tdizz1u mean the mount point?01:02
LjLthesaint4444: no. you *copy* /home first (using "cp -a"), *then* you edit /etc/fstab to get the new partition mounted as /home, then you reboot to check that it works, and only then, you should remove your old home (the OLD, not the new, careful ;)01:02
usr13tdizz1, Was /  (the root directory) mounted on it?01:03
tdizz1yes01:03
hgjjjfwhn  i pop in the sims 2 cd i get this Cannot mount volume.Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.01:03
LjLthesaint4444: the problem is that, during that process, there will come a point where you'll have no /home partition at all. you should be logged in as root at that time, otherwise weird things may happen. ideally, you should be in single user mode.01:03
lfever_hello everyone01:03
usr13tdizz1, If that is true, I see no other option for you but to re-install, (and then try not to delete any more partitions that are in use from now on :)01:03
LaxLjL. #defoptions=quiet nosplash. i changed it to nosplash but its still showing it....01:03
mcphailtdizz1: you have restored the partition, but is the partition type "linux"?01:03
hgjjjfwhn i pop in the sims disk i get this nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.01:04
LjLLax, did you also issue  sudo update-grub ?01:04
tdizz1what u mean?01:04
Laxno ops01:04
tdizz1like the filesystem?01:04
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LjLtdizz1: no, the partition type as shown by fdisk01:04
mcphailtdizz1: no, the partiton type. Presumably the filesystem will be ext301:04
barziniis this a real file 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1?01:04
tdizz1yes its ext301:04
Laxill give it a go again then.. :)01:04
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mcphailtdizz1: yes, but what is the partition type?01:05
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thesaint4444LjL: so do what you need to do then reboot and login as single user mode?01:05
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LjLthesaint4444: yeah basically you'll only need single user mode to delete the old /home01:05
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mcphailtdizz1: use "sudo fdisk -l" and see what the "Id" column says01:05
hgjjjf whn i pop in the sims disk i get this invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'01:05
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Voodoo_Johnhi, im on fiesty fawn and my usb soundcard isnt working01:06
sky1looks like my repositories are messed up, it shows Ubuntu Servers status failed in lot of servers when I do a check01:06
tdizz18201:06
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tdizz183*01:06
tdizz1i meant 83 lol01:06
sky1I also cant upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04 because of this01:06
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usr13mcphail, I don't think he will be able to tell you that.  But, if he were to boot to a live CD and look around some, he might be able to give us more useful info.  But that would be hard thing to do.01:06
LjLtdizz1: that's Linux, yes.01:06
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working01:07
mcphailtdizz1: so that's fine01:07
tdizz1yeah i know it says linux01:07
needhelpHi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?01:07
rabbitnightmareok i went to install amarok and it installed then it wouldnt play mp3's and it crashed while doing this it says mp3 support is installed but wont play any of my music what do I do?01:07
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:07
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LjLrabbitnightmare: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg01:07
rabbitnightmareok ty01:08
sky1how can I fix my repositories ?01:08
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LjL!source-o-matic > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)01:08
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usr13sky1, What version of Ubuntu are you using?01:08
rabbitnightmareE: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg01:08
needhelpFAQ. | FAQ01:09
mcphailtdizz1: have you fsck'd your partition?01:09
tdizz1?01:09
fliegenderfroschrabbitnightmare: that's a 1 (one) behind xine, not a L01:09
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:09
tdizz1what do you mean by that?01:09
alcaponageCan someone help me with the cube?01:09
usr13sky1, 7.04?01:09
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rabbitnightmareoops :P01:09
rabbitnightmaresorry01:09
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sky1usr13, yeah Im using Edgy, I wan to use Fiesty01:10
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mcphailtdizz1: performed a filesystem check? You should be able to do this from the live cd01:10
rabbitnightmarealready installed and newest version01:10
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what have you done so far?01:10
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tdizz1how do i do that?01:10
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usr13You can just grab sources.list from another system.01:10
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: I have compiz fusion already and I can Alt Ctrl L and R to switch01:11
hgjjjfhow do i mount the cd drive?01:11
rabbitnightmarei might try kubuntu as this is annoying lol01:11
usr13sky1, Or, one of us can give you ours.01:11
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: But I can't go Alt Ctrl Down to go into cube mode01:11
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mcphailtdizz1: boot into the live cd, unmount the partition "sudo umount /dev/whatever" then "sudo e2fsck /dev/whatever"01:11
tdizz1k01:11
rabbitnightmaresudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom01:11
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Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:11
usr13sky1, I'll put mine on a server and send you a link.01:11
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sky1usr13, thank you, I am trying to generate myself one from the weblink I got from ubotu,also it will help me learn about source list files ;)01:11
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: afaik you can use EITHER the cube or the wall01:12
mcphailtdizz1: if it is a large partition prepare to give it half an hour or so01:12
tdizz1tells me the commands not found01:12
rabbitnightmarethe ffmpeg stuff is installed fine but mp3's still wont play01:12
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: afaik? I want the cube tho01:12
rabbitnightmarein amarok01:12
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LaxLjL: worked nicely, thank you. you wouldnt also know how to make my startup session apps start minimized to tray? thinking about gaim...01:12
mcphailtdizz1: which command?01:12
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tdizz1unmount01:12
mcphailtdizz1: umount01:12
tdizz1oh!01:13
tdizz1lol01:13
tdizz1sorrt01:13
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tdizz1sorry*01:13
mcphail:)01:13
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what do you use to configure compiz and which version of ubuntu do you use? (afaik = as far as i know)01:13
gekohello. I'm from Universidade do Minho. And we are mirroring ubuntu. I was wondering how can we be an official mirror. Can you help us?01:13
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geko@ cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/01:13
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thesaint4444LjL: cool, thanks for the help, I will try and format, partition and mount one of the drives now, how should i set the partitions on the other drives? logical or primary? am i right in thinking primary for one continuous drive and logical for multiple partitions on the same drive?01:13
kitchegeko: read the mirror info on the wiki it's all explained there01:13
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: I have feisty I use CFSM01:13
tdizz1k it finished really fast and says "/dev/hda6: clean, 190402/856480 files, 1649761/1710914 blocks"01:14
rabbitnightmarecan someone with amarok experience help me01:14
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LjLLax, nope, i'm not on GNOME01:14
rabbitnightmareplease01:14
LjLthesaint4444, no, you'll only need logical if you want more than 4 partitions on a single drive.01:14
mattthebakerwhat ftpd is recommened for use with ubuntu for a standard desktop? i used to use vsftpd with gentoo, but am wondering if there is a better alternative?01:14
gekokitche: ok. thank you01:14
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dfletcher_is there a pdf viewer for gnome?01:14
RickXcan someone tell me how to install universe repository?01:15
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Chousukedfletcher_: evince01:15
kitchemattthebaker: well there is two proftpd camp or vsftpd camp there is others but those two are the best documented ones01:15
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dfletcher_trying it, thanks Chousuke01:15
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mattthebakerkitche: thanks01:15
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mcphailtdizz1: ...just googling error17...01:15
tdizz1k01:16
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: ?01:16
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thesaint4444LJL: aah.. ok, so primary and mount it as any name i want then it should appear in my file system?01:16
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: is the cube plugin activated and the wall plugin deactivated?01:16
LjLthesaint4444: "mountpoint", the place you want to mount it on is called, but yes.01:17
alcaponagefliegender the cube is activated and the wall is deactivated01:17
LjL!fstab > thesaint4444    (thesaint4444, see the private message from Ubotu)01:17
Laxanyone else knows how to start apps minimized in gnome?01:17
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anathematichow do i start cron on my ubuntu server?01:17
barzinianyone know whats going on here Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.3+2_i386.deb01:17
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rabbitnightmarewill someone please help me I am having troubles playing my music with amaroK01:18
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Flannelanathematic: What version of Ubuntu?01:18
jwcgatorI need help with desktop effects01:18
anathematic Flannel whatever the newest server one is01:18
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Filthpigdoes anyone know if Gutsy has upport for the rt73 chipset (I.e. on a Linksys WUSB54GC)? Feisty tried using rt73usb, but that didn't work.. I went through a really long howto to get it to work, and it did! ...until I rebooted :/01:18
jwcgatorwith them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows01:18
anathematicdoesn't seem to be running01:18
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jwcgatorany help?01:19
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sky1how do I write the file, I am using gedit, but it is asking for sudo, how can I write into the sources.list file ?01:19
Xenguyanathematic: I would think it would be started automatically, yes?  Try: ps aux |grep -i cron01:19
Xenguyanathematic: any output from that?01:19
anathematicXenguy: already did that, for sone reason it's not running01:19
LjLsky1: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:19
LjL!sudo > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)01:19
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: so is there any animation when you change desktop?01:19
anathematicjust the search i just did came up that was it Xenguy01:19
Filthpig!rt7301:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:19
anathematicwhich i thought was wierd: i know it's installed01:19
jwcgatorI need help with desktop effects01:19
jwcgatorwith them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows01:19
Filthpig!ralink01:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:19
Flannelanathematic: Feisty uses upstart to do the cron thing.  I believe its a drop in replacement.01:19
jwcgatorAny help getting them back01:19
LjLjwcgator: nvidia card?01:19
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AcidictadpoleI'm having trouble getting responses from the apt-get update servers.. I originally had them set to ca. and I changed them to us. I still get 404 though using apt-get update. I can ping the servers fine.01:19
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Xenguyanathematic: try: which cron01:20
alcaponageCan ANYONE help me with my cube?01:20
anathematicFlannel: but it has cron installed still? I just want to start it again without restarting the server01:20
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jwcgatoryes01:20
jwcgatorljl01:20
LjLAcidictadpole: pastebin your sources.list01:20
Acidictadpolek01:20
LjLjwcgator: try  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24  and then restart X01:20
anathematicXenguy: "/usr/sbin/cron"01:20
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Greyscalesleep good01:20
tonyyarussoalcaponage: try #ubuntu-effects01:20
thesaint4444LJL: cheers...01:20
ekrengeldoes anyone know how to unshare a folder from the terminal?01:20
anathematicXenguy: when i  just go "sudo crond" it saids command not found01:20
anathematic=\ which is wierd01:21
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lfever_Feisty Package Manager and apt-get return errors, can anybody help? :-[01:21
mcphailtdizz1: i'm struggling to work out why you should get an error17. The partition exists, and is clearly ext3...01:21
LjLanathematic: that's because the cron daemon is simply called 'cron'01:21
tdizz1and has all the files that were on it before01:21
LjLanathematic: though i don't think you're supposed to invoke it manually01:21
fliegenderfroschlfever_: can you be a bit more specific?01:21
usr13sky1, Still there?01:21
tdizz1does anyone else have an idea why this would happen?01:22
anathematicyeah LjL i don't think so01:22
sky1usr13, yup I just replaced the file01:22
anathematicbut you should be able to still01:22
AcidictadpoleLjL: http://pastebin.com/d62d68e9301:22
LjLanathematic: you are. but "crond" never existed, it's "cron"01:22
Xenguyanathematic: /etc/init.d/cron --help01:22
fliegenderfroschlfever_: what's the error message?01:22
usr13Ok, good.01:22
tdizz1maybe the GRUB is trying to load it from a wrong place? just wondering...im a linux newb so have no clue what that would mean....01:22
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Xenguyanathematic: anyway, it should start up automatically when you boot01:22
LjLAcidictadpole, that sources.list is for Breezy, and Breezy is not supported since a long time now.01:22
sky1usr13, I think Im gonna upgrade to FIesty now, hope my T60 doesnt crashes01:22
anathematicLjL: sorry that's just waht an article said i was reading01:22
anathematicXenguy: yeah i know, no idea why it was down01:23
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anathematicanyway it's up now thanks01:23
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Xenguyanathematic: yw01:23
anathematicoh wait01:23
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anathematicXenguy: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4381: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:23
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anathematicbah silly thing01:23
sky1usr13, I dont need to reboot or restart the system after updating the source list right ?01:23
LjLanathematic:  sudo invoke-rc.d cron restart 01:23
decayanyone here an expert with twinview settings?01:23
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LjLsky1: right, but you need to  sudo apt-get update 01:24
anathematicthank you LjL now it's behaving01:24
LjL!anyone > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
Xenguyanathematic: or just /etc/init.d/cron restart01:24
LjL!twinview > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
anathematicXenguy: i must get my act togethe and just learn these soon01:24
Xenguyanathematic: er, with sudo01:24
anathematicthanks again01:24
anathematicyeah i figured ;)01:24
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AcidictadpoleLjL: How can I go about a remote distribution upgrade then?01:24
LjLXenguy: why on earth? the 'invoke-rc.d' command is there so that you don't do that manually.01:24
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LjL!upgrade > Acidictadpole    (Acidictadpole, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
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decayit's complicated. I can't just type it out. i'd have to explain in details and that would take alot of lines01:25
Acidictadpoleappreciated :)01:25
lfever_fliegenderfrosch i'm getting several errors Cant parse, section with no headers problem with merge list, non version list01:25
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anathematicLjL and Xenguy: i did that command restarted it however the process doesn't appear to be running still?01:25
cafuegoLjL: After 10-odd years, typing /etc/init.d/ is a *lot* faster for me than typing invoke-rc.d01:25
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:25
XenguyLjL: if it were 'service' or some such I might remember it, but that command is more trouble to remember than the typing it saves (if it does at all :-)01:25
anathematic(I used "px aux | grep cron" ot look for it01:25
cafuegoPlus I keep typo3ing the latter :-(01:25
LjLanathematic: tail /var/log/syslog, see if cron complained about anything01:26
sky1usr13, its waiting on connecting to seveas.imbrandon.com << 99% after i do sudo apt-get update01:26
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fliegenderfroschlfever_: "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help? have you changed your sources.list?01:26
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LjLXenguy: you just have to rememeber "invoke". actually, "invo".01:26
anathematicLjL:  yeah it did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39321/01:26
usr13Acidictadpole, http://cmsproducer.com/ubuntu-upgrade-5.10-breezy-badger-7.04-feisty-fawn01:27
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kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:27
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X3nhey there, my rythmbox randomly stops playing sound sometimes01:28
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X3nlike sometimes it works, i mean it always works, but sometimes theres no sound :S01:28
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X3nusing fiesty01:28
XenguyLjL: funnily enough it does appear to be exactly the same amount of typing -- go figure ;-)01:28
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lfever_fliegenderfrosch that returns errors, i haven't changed my sources list.01:28
X3ni cant listen to mp3's, it plays them but no sound :S01:29
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X3nsometimes there is sound, sometimes there isnt :S01:29
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:29
whiskeytangogodzirra, you online still?01:29
SivikX3n, what sound driver and your not running anything else with sound, are you?01:30
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kailashamri1can anyone help?01:30
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..01:30
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X3nnope, not running anything else with sound01:30
X3nhow do i check my sound driver?01:30
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jansenqAnybody have proglems with flgrx after upgrading to gusty?01:30
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Picijansenq: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.01:30
simplechathey, i've been trying to get x to recognise my graphics card, i reconfigured and hosed X01:31
jansenqPici: Thx01:31
LjLXenguy: it does? for /etc/init.d/, i neet to type /e<Tab>in<Tab>.<Tab>01:31
simplechatits coming up with a fatal error that i can't find any screens01:31
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Sassukesers leutz01:31
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simplechati copied back the backup xorg.conf and it still dies on startup01:31
unjusticeuk01:31
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simplechat:(01:31
XenguyLjL: ahh, wasn't thinking of01:31
simplechatwhat do i do?01:31
Sassukedeutsche hier ?01:31
usr13simplechat, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg01:31
Sassuke^^01:31
Flannel!de | Sassuke01:31
ubotuSassuke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:31
XenguyLjL: tabs01:32
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X3nim using alsa sound driver?01:32
simplechatusr13, i'm a noob at this, and last time i reconfigured i killed my machine01:32
Sassukekann mir vllt. jemand kurz mit meinen nub fragen helfen ?01:32
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fliegenderfroschlfever_: sorry, exept for replacing the sources.list with a "clean" one and trying again, i have no idea01:32
X3nits really random though, sometimes i can hear music, and sometimes not01:32
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?01:32
Sassukewill mir jetzt endlich linux drauf hauen was aber nicht so richtig was ich beachten soll01:32
X3nit plays mp3's but sometimes no sound01:32
simplechatusr13, could i have some help running through it?01:32
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LjLanathematic: pastebin your /etc/crontab01:32
anathematicLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39323/ and thanks =)01:33
usr13simplechat, Yes01:33
LjLSassuke: bitte schreibe /join #ubuntu-de01:33
whiskeytangoOk, when i try to install my binary drivers fo rmy video card it says "cant open whatevertehfileis.run"01:33
LjLSassuke: wir sprechen englisch hier01:33
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fliegenderfroschSassuke: gerne in #ubuntu-de01:33
eriscoahh! crap01:33
simplechatusr13, unknown option reconfigure01:33
t00naQuick! I have some grandparents who know very little about computers, they bought a new computer, and I'm going to put a 'buntu on it. Gnome or KDE?01:33
lfever_fliegenderfrosch: thanks for the info, i will give that a try01:33
LjLanathematic: there's your problem. the first line is missing a #01:33
eriscoI partitioned my disk and reinstalled ubuntu but there appears to be a problem with installing windows01:33
anathematicahhh thanks01:33
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:33
Xenguyt00na: gnome01:33
usr13simplechat, Actually, there is an easier way.01:33
Sassukesry wechsele channel :D01:34
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simplechatyes?01:34
t00naXenguy: why?01:34
tonyyarussot00na: That's a very touchy question.  Chances are folks here will vote Gnome, those in #kubuntu KDE.01:34
anathematicoh Ljl that was jsut my pasting01:34
anathematicit's there01:34
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE help me with this problem?01:34
usr13simplechat,  DO you have Ubuntu 7.04 CD you can boot to?01:34
Xenguyt00na: simpler, less options01:34
t00naHm... okay01:34
t00nakthxbai!01:34
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tonyyarussot00na: You can always start with Gnome and switch later if you feel like it - you're not locked into one or the other.01:34
simplechatIn the log file it says "Failed to load module fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) no drivers avalible01:34
simplechatyeah, i do01:34
tonyyarussobah01:34
usr13simplechat, If so, boot to it and copy the xorg.conf file over to the hard drive.01:34
_Jaak_i am trying to setup a pptp vpn server, it works but when i connect to it the devices looses internet connection, what do i setup server side to give the clients acces to the internet of the server?01:34
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simplechatusr13, ok01:35
eriscomy partitions are as followings: Swap, EXT3, Unpartitioned Space, EXT3. When I try to install windows on the unpartitioned space it says the maximum number of partitions already exist. Is it impossible to use the unpartitioned space simply because there is partitioned space occuring after it?01:35
eriscowhat is going on?01:35
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whiskeytango/notice godzirra hey would you mind walking me through getting these binary drivers to work for my 8500 GT ?01:35
whiskeytangobah01:35
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:35
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sinizzlhow do i change my machine's domain name ?01:35
simplechatusr13, where would i find it on the disk?01:35
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LjLanathematic: try  sudo cron -f  and see what it says then01:36
usr13simplechat, e.g.  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /mnt/hda2/etc/X11/     (using hypothetical mount point /mnt/hda2, you will have to customize as needed.)01:36
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anathematicLjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29146: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:36
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eriscodoes anyone know?01:36
LjLanathematic: ok try again after  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop 01:36
anathematicLjL i've got my root account locked is that the problem maybe?01:36
eriscowhy will windows not install on the available free space? :s01:36
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LjLanathematic: of course not. the root account is *supposed* to be locked.01:36
anathematicahh i see01:37
anathematicLjL: done :)01:37
usr13simplechat, Once it boots up and is working ok, open a terminal and copy the xorg.conf file to the HD, (as shown above(.01:37
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simplechatusr13, ok, i just need to find the cd01:37
Peloerisco, where is the free space located ? windows likes being on the first partition of the boot hdd01:37
simplechatand my computer is taking a long time to cycle01:37
Mr_SiebelCan anybody tell me how to go about finding open ports on my machine?01:37
LjLerisco: are you sure there aren't *four* partitions already?01:37
thesaint4444LjL: that was really helpfull, thanks. When i look at my fstab there is no seperate partition for /home - it must be contained within root, does that make things easier if I add a new mount point?01:37
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eriscoPelo,  2GB Swap, 20GB EXT3, 58GB Unpartitioned Space, 120GB EXT301:37
vmlinuz`hey01:38
LjLthesaint4444: neither easier nor harder.01:38
eriscoLjL, nope01:38
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LjL!info nmap | Mr_Siebel01:38
ubotumr_siebel: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB01:38
vmlinuz`whats the command to re-configure xfce dsktop as a start01:38
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Peloerisco, boot the ubuntu live cd,  move the partitions so the unalocated space is at the beginning of the hdd01:38
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE!!!!!! help me with this problem?01:38
eriscoPelo, but that puts windows at the end of the disk... it will be slow :(01:38
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LjLanathematic: so what does it say now?01:38
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anathematicLjL: well it saids that it stopped it01:39
anathematici'll start it again01:39
LjLanathematic: no.01:39
anathematicokay01:39
LjLanathematic: i meant to type  cron -f  now01:39
eriscoPelo, what would you recommend I do to arrange my partitions in a good order?01:39
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thesaint4444Mr_Siebel: netstat -nlt - use man netstat....01:40
anathematicLjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29194: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:40
eriscoPelo, I wouldn't want 58GB of windows right at the start... I previously installed windows at the end01:40
Peloerisco,  are you trying to install windows on a ext3 partition ? can'T do that , you need to install in in unallocated space to windows format's it to nfts01:40
Mark7Evening all01:40
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?!!!!01:40
thesaint4444LjL - hmmm..01:40
eriscoPelo, no, I am trying to use the remaining space for windows01:40
LjLanathematic: ps aux | grep 2919401:40
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Mark7The text in here is tiny01:40
eriscoPelo, but windows won't do it... I think it is because the remaining space is between two partitions01:40
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..01:40
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mcphailtdizzy: when you use "sudo fdisk -l", what partition is your (restored) root partition?01:41
sinizzlin what file is my computer's domain name set ?01:41
LjLtdizzy, have you tried hitting "e" on your kernel item in GRUB, and making sure the *correct* partition is mentioned everywhere in the stuff that comes up?01:41
Peloerisco,   I already told you what to do , move the unallocated space to the beginning of the hdd and install windows on that01:41
eriscoPelo, I have to factor 2GB swap, 20GB / (ext3), 120GB /home (ext3) and 58GB NTFS01:41
tdizzyyeah01:41
tdizzyit is01:41
vmlinuz`I didn't know what happened to my xfce, now I 'm in Xfce without any bars.. how to reconfigure it pls01:41
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eriscoPelo, but I don't want windows at the very start... that is the fastest spot on the disk. I want my swap there :P01:41
Peloerisco,  maybe you should ask in ##windows01:41
tdizzyhda6 is the partition01:41
sinizzlvmlinuz`: rm -rf /tmp && rm -rf ~/.config as your normal user01:41
anathematichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/01:41
anathematicoh yeah LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/01:42
eriscoPelo, nah this is a linux question :P01:42
LjLtdizzy: and there is no UUID mentioned anywhere?01:42
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that basically resets the entire xfce config.01:42
tdizzywhatds UUID?01:42
vmlinuz`sinizzl: Thanks.01:42
Peloerisco,  it's about intalling windows that is a windows question01:42
Pelo!uuid | tdizzy01:42
ubotutdizzy: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:42
LjLtdizzy: a long string of numbers and letters, as i said before.01:42
vmlinuz`that resets kde and gnome config too?01:42
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eriscoPelo, no it is about using a linux based application to partition my disk01:42
sinizzlvmlinuz`: beware of not accidentally deleting files in /tmp that u still want to use though... but i guess u know that urself01:42
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LjLtdizzy: if you see one, change it into your partition name - /dev/whatever01:42
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tdizzyUUID="637daae7-0816-45e1-a34a-faa5f6c3a985"01:42
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tdizzyso i have to change that?01:43
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Peloerisco, right now it's about where to put windows,  you got my opinion , if you want a second opinion ask someone else01:43
BarryToemanMy cut and paste stopped working.  Every paste ends up as "".  Select and paste with mouse middle button still works, however.01:43
LjLanathematic: so, cron is running, and it doesn't want to stop. try  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop  once again, then see if it's still in  ps aux | grep cron ; if it is,  sudo killall -9 cron 01:43
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eriscoPelo, alrighty01:43
vmlinuz`sinizzl: yea but there was a GUI popped on me when i first ran xfce to configure it. then after that it says "If you dislike this in future you can easily write this command 'blah blah' to re-configure it again"01:43
MikeD_how can i backup a large /home folder to multiple DVD?01:43
vmlinuz`but thing is sinizzl i can't remember that command 'blah blah' do you know it?01:43
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eriscoPelo, do you think it would work if I put windows at the end of the drive though?01:43
LjLtdizzy: that is from your boot menu?01:43
tusseyhey new version of flash is out, what's the easiest way to get it?01:43
tdizzyno...01:43
tdizzylol01:43
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sayersWith cups I have my mom an ubuntu user, if I add her to the allowed printer users, even though she's on a different machine will it allow her to print?01:44
anathematicLjL:  it's stopped now after the killall -9 ...01:44
tdizzytheres no UUID in my boot menu01:44
simplechatusr13, i'm in the boot disk, and the mount point is disk, in /media01:44
X3nwhat the hell man, i cant listen to any mp3's now -.-, im getting no sound! it plays the files, but no sound!?, man this is random and starting to piss me off01:44
anathematicso LjL where from here? :)01:44
Peloerisco, I beleive I said windows likes to be at the beginning,  if you want another answer on where it is best to install windows try asking in ##windows01:44
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that command was certainly not those two i just gave you... would really surprise me if they were... in any case, it will do the job. xfce stores any settings in ~/.config but if u dont delete /tmp/ as well it ignores ur 'settings-reset'01:44
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LjLtdizzy: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?01:44
LjLanathematic: "cron -f"01:44
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sky1uggh, I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use01:44
Pelolater folks01:44
vmlinuz`sinizzl: no your command wasnt it.01:45
sinizzlvmlinuz`: certainly not :D01:45
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anathematicLjL: nothing is coming up now just a blank line?01:45
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sinizzli use both gnome-panel & xfce-panel at the same time... lol... xfce panel lacks some features i need ;-(01:45
LjLanathematic: it means it's running, apparently. stop it with ctrl+c01:45
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tdizzywhats pastebin?01:45
tdizzylol01:45
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LjL!pastebin | tdizzy01:45
ubotutdizzy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:45
usr13simplechat, Ok01:45
vmlinuz`rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X11-unix/X0': Operation not permitted01:45
vmlinuz`rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X0-lock': Operation not permitted01:45
PhotocopyAnyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs?01:45
vmlinuz`sinizzl: why?01:45
sinizzltdizzy: dunno. it has something to do with squirrels i think01:45
anathematicLjL: ahh yeah, so i've started it with & at the end01:46
anathematicand it seems fine01:46
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LjLanathematic: ... no01:46
sinizzlvmlinuz`: what u mean, why ?01:46
sky1I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use01:46
anathematicmm?01:46
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: look at the error it gave me01:46
vmlinuz`sinizzl: thats your command01:46
anathematicLjL, what should I had done then?01:46
LjLanathematic: you *need* to be able to start it with  sudo invoke-rc.d start . you *don't* want to start it manually. especially, it makes *no* sense to start it with &.01:46
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: i certainly hope u did not do it as root01:46
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: nop wasnt as root01:46
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: that thing i just gave only affects xfce4-session01:46
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usr13simplechat, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /media/etc/X11/    (if the / partition is really mounted at /media )01:47
tdizzywhere do i find the grub lst file? the ubuntu partition?01:47
LjLanathematic: so now kill the one you've started, and start it with  invoke-rc.d cron start , and see if syslog still gives error01:47
vmlinuz`sinizzl: no. it affict something else too01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: naturally it will complain while doing rm -rf /tmp/ for not all of the files/dirs belong to ur user01:47
LjLtdizzy: yes, in the ubuntu partition, in the /boot/grub directory01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that is ?01:47
fliegenderfroschtdizzy: /boot/grub/menu.lst01:47
ben_I just found out I've got a PCI card reader built into my laptop. On XP, when I insert my SD camera card, it automatically mounts it as a generic volunme. Is this hardware supported on ubuntu, and if so how would I go about mounting it?01:47
vmlinuz`sinizzl: KDE & Gnome configuration01:47
BarryToemanMikeD_: try http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: gnome stores its config in ~/.gnome ~/.gconf etc.01:47
_Jaak_Can anyone point me in a direction on how to setup a pptp server to enable clients to acces the internet?01:47
simplechatusr13, ok, now i've got it back up01:47
simplechat:)01:47
simplechatthanks for your help! :)01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: ~/.config is basically xfce and a bunch of other programs as well though01:47
jbu311can anyone hear me?01:47
Mr_SiebelHow do I netstat myself?01:48
vmlinuz`sinizzl: let me reboot and see if that fixes tmhe problem01:48
OleMoudiMikeD_, use tar with -M to specify multivolume and -L volume size01:48
usr13simplechat, NP01:48
sinizzlvmlinuz`: dont need to reboot for that, just restart X01:48
PhotocopyIf i have a 50GB partition with 20GB of files on it, and i try to partition it into two 25GB partitions will one partition have all the files  still and the other be blank?01:48
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simplechatjbu311, go to a terminal and type netstat01:48
vmlinuz`sinizzl: that what im gonna do, brb01:48
sinizzlk01:48
usr13jbu311, We can't hear you but we can see you.01:48
tdizzyLjL: i put it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/01:48
anathematicLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39327/01:48
jbu311thanks!01:48
usr13jbu311, Comb your hair!01:48
PiciPhotocopy: You'd have to resize it and add a new partition.01:48
tusseyhey the new version of Flash is out for linux. what is the preferred way of installing this onto my ubuntu system?01:48
jbu311usr13: it's combed01:49
PhotocopyPici01:49
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usr13jbu311, Ok, that's better...01:49
PiciPhotocopy01:49
PhotocopyAnd will that make me lose the files?01:49
sinizzltussey: it is ? schweet.01:49
vmlinuz`sinizzl: same thing, im still in trouble :(01:49
sinizzlvmlinuz`: if u launch xfce4-panel from terminal, does it give u any error ?01:49
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LjLanathematic, if the lines from the invoke-rc.d command are the ones starting from 19:42:17, then they seem fine (i suspect the other ones are the ones from when you did  cron -f ).01:49
PiciPhotocopy: It shouldnt. But its no paritioning is 100% flawless.01:49
eriscodoes anyone know generally how much speed difference there is at the start of the drive in comparison to the end of the drive?01:49
LjLanathematic: ps aux | grep cron - if it's running, i think it should be fine.01:49
PhotocopyPici: Which is better for dualboot, install windows, then ubuntu? or ubuntu, then windows01:50
eriscois it really more-so negligible?01:50
mcphailtdizzy: i think the hd0,6 lines need to be hd0,501:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: nop01:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: it started them!!01:50
PiciPhotocopy: Windows then Ubuntu01:50
mcphailtdizzy: but i could be wrong01:50
sinizzlvmlinuz`: did u rm -rf /tmp/ ?01:50
`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?01:50
anathematicLjL: yeah it's up and running fine01:50
anathematicty01:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: yep01:50
sky1Is it ok to use GParted to do my partition from within Ubuntu, will my windows be ok after parition(would be able to use it)01:50
PhotocopyPici: Good cause windows is already installed.01:50
LjLerisco: why believe figures that random people give you?01:50
LjL!info bonnie++ | erisco01:50
ubotuerisco: bonnie++: Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03abuild1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB01:50
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tdizzymcphail: ok, if i mess it up i can fix it, correct?01:50
sinizzlvmlinuz`: try it like this: rm -rf /tmp/ && rm -rf  ~/.config && kill -9 -101:50
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mcphailtdizzy: from the livecd, yes01:50
tdizzyk01:51
eriscoLjL, what are you suggesting?...01:51
vmlinuz`the rm -rf /tmp/ "gives errors"01:51
sinizzlvmlinuz`: naturally.01:51
PhotocopyDoes anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs? I don't have a burner, so I need to use things line ubuntu's shipit.01:51
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LjLerisco: i'm suggesting that you install bonnie++ and run it. it will tell you which parts of your drive are faster, and by how much.01:51
vmlinuz`so why my xfce panels arent showing for me01:51
eriscoLjL, even if it isn't all partitioned yet?01:51
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`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?01:52
sinizzlvmlinuz`: because they're not in your xfce4-session.rc anymore01:52
LjLerisco: that might be a problem, i don't remember if bonnie can work on unpartitioned space. try.01:52
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tusseydoes Envice support editing PDFs with fields?01:52
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: I want to configure my xfce4-session with a GUI01:52
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i want that gui that popped on me when i first ran xfce01:52
sinizzlvmlinuz`: i wrote my own .xsession exactly because of this problem01:52
fliegenderfroschtussey, only in gnome 2.20 afaik01:52
eriscoLjL, *shrug*01:52
vmlinuz`sinizzl: send it to me01:52
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: let me try it, at least ebetter than nothing01:52
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: xfce4-session insanely alters its configuration in whatever aspect it feels like at the moment01:52
eriscoLjL, I am just worried about installing windows at the end of my drive is all. I don't want it to be sluggish01:52
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tusseywhat version of GNOME does ubuntu 7.04 have?01:52
eriscoLjL, and it is 200GB drive at that01:53
sinizzlvmlinuz`: are you using gdm/kdm or something like that ?01:53
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: i'd like to have my panels01:53
LjLerisco, even if i told you what the percentage figures are for my drive, would it be applicable to your drive?01:53
fliegenderfroschtussey: 2.1801:53
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: yea i use one of them, not sure which >_<01:53
PhotocopyIs there any other distrobutions with shipit?01:53
vmlinuz`sinizzl:  a login screen pops on me on started up01:53
Photocopyor something similar?01:53
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vmlinuz`i can't u se backspace on this terminal, that sucks >(01:54
fliegenderfroschtussey: you could use "acroread" with "acroread-plugins"01:54
eriscoLjL, no. However, I understood it as simply logic that the farther the arm has to travel to get the information the longer it is going to take01:54
usr13 vmlinuz` Get another keyboard.01:54
LjLerisco: that is true. how important that effect is, however, depends on the drive.01:54
vmlinuz`usr13: my keyboard is fine, only this terminal is odd.01:54
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tusseythanks I'll give that a try01:54
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: doesn't matter. what u have to do is: create a ~/.xsession file that contains all that xfce stuff. tell gdm/kdm whatever to use .xession by selecting 'default session' at login. i can send u an example of my flavor of .xsession (mostly xfce stuff)01:54
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eriscoLjL, bonnie++ takes a long time. I am impatient I guess :P01:55
vmlinuz`sinizzl: send pls01:55
theveranthey - how long should a fsck /dev/sdc1 take if the drive is 500GB?01:55
sky1how can I use GParted to resize my partition ? I cant unmount within Ubuntu01:55
LjLerisco: ok: 20% difference.01:55
tusseyhow would I go about installing acroread? I didn't find it in SPM01:55
Picisky1: Run it from the LiveCD.01:55
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i want to send you something01:55
sinizzlvmlinuz`: http://rafb.net/p/DZDqGf80.html <- as u can see there's also non-xfce related stuff in there. just erase those two lines01:55
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eriscoLjL, yours is a 20% difference?01:55
LjLerisco: perhaps 30% if your drive is not running in silent mode.01:55
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset?01:55
sky1Pici:ok01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset command?01:56
LjLerisco: about it.01:56
BarryToemanPhotocopy: go to distrowatch.com.  Or on-disk.com will mail you distributions for a few dollars each.01:56
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vmlinuz`scguy318: what command01:56
norgulhi folks01:56
eriscoLjL, holy crap that is terrible01:56
theverantI'm having touble booting because of a forced check hanging01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset01:56
fliegenderfroschtussey, it's available in the medibuntu repo01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: maybe it could rectify your terminal01:56
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sinizzlscguy318: how can u reset xfce4 session? i only know a rather complicated way01:56
norgulis there a channel where the ubuntu "developers" are?01:56
vmlinuz`scguy318: how can i reset01:56
theverantto a entirely storage drive01:56
mcphailtheverant: be patient01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: by typing reset01:56
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vmlinuz`reset01:56
scguy318sinizzl: what do you mean?01:56
tusseyhow do access that? Sorry I'm new to ubuntu01:56
sinizzlscguy318: nevermind01:57
theverantmcphail - ok... that's good to know :)  The other drives I did went super quick... I'll just leave it along for a bit though01:57
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: he apparently meant something else^^01:57
mcphailtheverant: the fsck can take ages and appear to hang01:57
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: is that all your .xsession ?01:57
mcphailtheverant: remember you can turn forced checking off in the future01:57
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fliegenderfroschtussey: see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/01:57
theverantmcphail - that is oddly comforting.  I will do that, because this is silly01:57
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theverantI will also backup my drive more often01:57
sinizzlvmlinuz`: it is. comment the two lines that contain 'gnome' and u got exactly teh same thing as a plain xfce session. xfce launches by default xfwm4, xfdesktop && xfce4-panel, that's about it.01:57
theverantit's been a couple weeks and I have hundreds of pictures on there not backed up yet... :| kinda nerve racking01:58
sinizzlvmlinuz`: xfdesktop has its own settings manager, such as gnome-settings-daemon or whatever that thing's called.01:58
mcphailtheverant: indeed :)01:58
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eriscoLjL, I didn't understand the output whatsoever01:59
joshhunthello01:59
eg2Hello, I installed ubuntu right over my win XP. it said it will save my docmuments and some settings.... where is my documents?01:59
sinizzl eg2 probably lost in space01:59
joshhunt!ntfs01:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:59
Flanneleg2: in your home folder (Places > Home)01:59
cyph3ranyone know how to open a port for samba from the command line?01:59
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i save them into file called ".xsesson" ?01:59
vmlinuz`sinizzl: and the numbers included?02:00
eriscoMachine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP02:00
eriscoericLinux        2G 37112  82 46497  20 17781   9 39161  65 44841   6 181.6   102:00
eriscothat's what I got02:00
sinizzlvmlinuz`: no, the numbers ahve been added by rafb.net02:00
sinizzlvmlinuz`: it's basically 4 lines02:00
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sinizzlbut u need 'exec xfdesktop' at the end. don't know why but withouth the 'exec' it behaves buggy at times.02:00
LjLerisco: the package is bonnie++, but the program from it that you want to use is zcav, "man zcav"02:00
eg2Flannel: i can only see a shortcut to examples and a desktop icon there.02:00
eriscoLjL, that is what bonnie told me02:00
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eriscoLjL, is it suggesting that I can write 37MB/sec to the start and only 0.2MB/s to the end??02:01
LjLerisco: yeah but that doesn't say anything about the speeds of the various zones of your harddrive. you run zcav for that.02:01
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LjLerisco: no, nothing of the sort02:01
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decayAnyone can help me with twinview modes? I think metamodes is the problem02:03
Flanneleg2: I believe the migration thing puts stuff there.  I might be wrong though.  Did you check the "My Documents" when given the chance in the installer?02:03
eg2i checked something that it should save my documents from win xp02:03
cyph3rquit02:03
eg2can't recall the exact frase in installation02:04
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LjLerisco: perhaps you want to use the -c option to use a block size larger than the default 100 megabytes, with such a large drive. if you try 1 gigabyte, i'll do the same on my machine and we can compare the results.02:04
eriscoLjL, I cannot seem to get zcav to do anything02:04
eg2oh, btw. there is a channel for ubuntu where i can discuss compiz fusion and stuff. whats the channel name?02:04
Flanneleg2: Right,  http://www.michaellarabel.com/external/migration-assistant-2.png  And you did check the "my documents"?02:04
LjLerisco, it needs sudo.02:04
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Flanneleg2: #ubuntu-effects02:04
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eriscoLjl, sudo zcav - -b 1000M    ?02:05
LjLerisco:  sudo zcav -b 1000M /dev/hda  (assuming /dev/hda is your drive)02:05
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eg2Flannel: where it says michael microsoft windows xp bla bla, i just checked michael. didn't notice there was a dropdown menu. but if i checked it, it must have checked all the stuff, right?02:05
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eriscoLjL, mine is sda I believe. what changes the h to an s? I dunno02:06
LjLerisco: obviously, you should run it with as little disk load as possible (i.e. don't copy 4gb files while running it ;)02:06
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..02:06
LjLerisco: being SATA rather than IDE, most likely.02:06
eriscoLjL, just have chat running02:06
eriscoLjL, ah yes I believe it is a SATA02:06
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Flanneleg2: I have no idea.  What that might've done is made a user with that name, which is where your stuff is (different than the user youre on currently)02:06
eriscoLjL, so since I am doing 100gig blocks it will do this 200 times?02:07
LjLerisco: yes (1 gig, not 100 gig)02:07
orinSo, Gutsy will come out soon. Will it break a lot of stuff with AppArmor?02:07
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LjLerisco: if you had partitions on it, you could test the single partitions and make it quicker.02:07
eriscoLjL, yes, 1 gig hehe. What? you didn't think I had a 2TB drive?02:07
Flannelorin: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions, thanks.02:07
LjLerisco: ;)02:07
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eriscoLjL, I will be here all night with only 1gb blocks02:07
searaymancan somone help me with usign webrunner?02:08
eriscoLjL, I am only on 802:08
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LjLerisco, i'm on 6. but even if we increase the block size, i doubt it will take any shorter.02:08
eriscoLjL, all I want is the start of the drive then the end of the drive02:08
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eg2Flannel: damnit. is it possible to recover the files in it? i had some vacation pictures in it that i dont want to loose!02:08
joshhuntso i just installed the beta of ubuntu 7.10 and the updater tool thing pops up and tells me that i have a mountain load of updates to do. when the updater opens up, it tells me "Not all updates can be installed. Run a partial update, to install as many possilbe" etc, it then lists reasons why thawt might be the case02:08
eriscoLjL, I just want a smooth general line between the two02:08
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LjLerisco: unfortunately that isn't possible unless you first create two partitions, one at the start and one at the end02:09
eriscoLjL, I have a 120GB partition at the end02:09
LjLerisco: still a bit big02:09
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Mr_SiebelHow do I open my iptables?02:09
eriscoLjL, and I still cannot figure out how to get windows to use that free unpartitioned space02:09
joshhuntwhen i go to do the partial update, it brings up a disto upgrade box, and starts doing that... should i go throgh with that or apply the updates the normal way02:09
searaymancan somoen help me with usign webrunner, i cont figure it out02:09
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LjLerisco, i don't know about that02:10
Pelojoshhunt, gutsy is still in beta , so unless you want the beta don'T upgrade the distro yet02:10
amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:10
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joshhuntokies, thanks02:11
LjLerisco: let me see if we can use a trick with 'dd' instead02:11
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eriscoLjL, I am depressed because if it is impossible I have to reformat entirely again02:11
joshhuntso the distro upgrade will 'downgrade' it to 7.04?02:11
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Pelojoshhunt,  the distro upgrade will upgrade to gutsy02:12
amiono one knows?02:12
mguezuragaI have a amd x2 4400, with 2 gb of RAM, basic services started, and gnome takes "a lot of time" to draw the desktop and finish loading. What can cause this? (ubuntu 64 bits)02:12
joshhuntbut ive already got gutsy02:12
joshhuntthe beta of it02:12
Pelojoshhunt, if you are already running one of the gutsy alphas ( tribes)  I guess you will get upgraded to the latest beta but you should ask in #ubuntu+1 about that02:12
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searaymancan somoen help me with webrunner?02:13
eriscoLjL, any luck02:13
joshhuntno, im pretty sure ive got the beta02:13
enigma_ewhi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...02:13
LjLerisco: i'm reading the man, but yes, i think so02:13
joshhuntill ask in #ubuntu+1 then...02:13
amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:13
Peloamio, check in synaptic02:13
acid-tripmysqltcl 3.03 <-- does anyone know when that is gonna be released into packages?02:13
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amioPelo but in synaptic which program already downloaded few but not editors02:14
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Peloacid-trip, if it is a different version ( as oppose to an update) with the next distro02:14
acid-trip:/02:14
Flannelacid-trip: It'll be in Hardy02:14
Flannelor, should be.02:14
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Peloamio, that's all i have for you , try checking on www.getdeb.net02:15
acid-tripi wonder if i could build it from source02:15
dockoi just added a new user to my FF ubuntu server and i disabled user root, but it didn't create new user's home directory and sudo does absolutely nothing.... what can i do now? i have only ssh access to the server02:15
acid-tripi need it for one of my tcl scripts02:15
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Peloacid-trip, then go ahead and build it ,  just google for the source02:15
Flannelacid-trip: ACtually, it's already in feisty.02:15
eriscoLjL, I am on 33 and the results are still the same02:15
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joshhunthow can i check for what version im running?02:16
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_RomanI have an ssh connection from one ubuntu machine to another with X forwarding enabled.  Is it possible to send a window that is running on the remote machine to my local machine (this is a window/process that is already running on the remote machine)02:16
LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10           <- to see how fast the *beginning* of the drive is (reads 1Gb of data)02:16
Pelojoshhunt,  the first tab of the system monitor in the admin menu02:16
joshhuntof ubuntu via cli?02:16
Flanneljoshhunt: lsb_release -a02:16
usr13joseaa, lsb_release -a02:16
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amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:16
usr13sorry that was for joshhunt  not joseaa02:17
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enigma_ewhi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...02:17
Flannelacid-trip: No, I guess it's not.  Date of update is wrong. but, 02 to 03 is a bugfix, you should talk to the package maintainer, and get it updated.02:17
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joshhuntthanks XD02:17
Peloenigma_ew, ask in #compis-fusion or in #ubuntu-effects02:17
acid-trip...02:17
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acid-tripFlannel, how do i find out who the manager is02:17
acid-trip:/02:17
enigma_ewPelo: THNX02:18
eg2how do i get youtube videos to work in firefox?02:18
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LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 seek=1800   <- to see how fast the *end* of the drive is (the "1800" is for "start after 100mb*1800", which should be around 180gb -- i'm not making that 200, because i suppose that is the size in decimal gigabytes)02:18
Pelo!flash | eg202:18
ubotueg2: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:18
shkdoes the update manager delete the old versions of the things it updates?  or is my hard drive slowly dwindling away?02:18
eriscoLjL, 17.6s02:18
Peloshk, deleted02:18
acid-trip!mysqltcl02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mysqltcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:18
eriscoLjL, sorry, 17.402:18
shkPelo, is there any other maintenance i should be doing?02:18
Pelo!info mysqltcl | acid-trip02:18
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ubotuacid-trip: mysqltcl: Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.02-1 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 116 kB02:18
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shkdefrag, clearing temp files, etc ?02:19
orangeflyi was accessing a windows machine just fine until i plugged it in instead of wireless....can anyone help....???....02:19
LjLerisco: sorry that last command is wrong02:19
usr13shk, No, just enjoy.02:19
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amioany one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)02:19
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searaymanwebrunner help anyoen i am stuck......02:19
Flannelacid-trip: It's in the package details (in synaptic) or apt-cache show [package] 02:19
Peloshk,  sudo apt-get autoclean    and also check in synaptic,  use the status display(lower left) to see if there are any packages that you can safely remove02:19
eriscoLjL, it gave me 17.5s anyways02:19
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wastrelis there a better terminal for mac os than er02:20
shkok thank you02:20
usr13shk, Linux  pretty much takes care of itself02:20
Peloamio,  did you check in getdeb.net ?02:20
eriscoLjL, how do I correct that last one02:20
wastrel"terminal"02:20
LjLerisco: yeah but it's still checking the *beginning* of the drive again, so it's unsurprising it gives about the same value02:20
shki just feel bad not doing anything02:20
shki feel like i should be checking something02:20
shkkeeping it clean02:20
shketx02:20
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amioPelo nothing there is only pdfeditor and Ihave it it doesnt work good02:20
LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 skip=1800      <--- skip not seek02:20
LjLthis should be it02:20
wastrelpdfedit02:20
Peloshk,   you need the #windows-withdrawl channel02:20
acid-tripFlannel, how hard is it to take a source and make a quick deb out of it?02:20
shklmao02:21
usr13shk  You're experiencing the freedom we talk about when we brag about Linux.02:21
shki suppose i am02:21
eriscoLjL, HOLY ****02:21
eriscoLjL, 30.9s02:21
usr13Pelo, ha ha... yea prolly so...02:21
shkbut surely defragmenting is necessary?02:21
LjLerisco: some difference, you see.02:21
shkfor any hard drive...02:21
eriscoLjL, that is almost double02:21
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Peloshk,   no defrag needed in ext302:21
usr13shk, No, do fragmentation either.02:21
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LjLerisco: although, i cannot guarantee that there aren't any 'dd' artifacts at work there. it'd really be better to spend the time with zcav, to be sure.02:22
usr13shk, No, fragmentation either.02:22
Peloshk,   you can actualy enjoy your computer now ,  just go with it02:22
shkhaha02:22
shkincredible :o02:22
tdizzywhen im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?02:22
usr13shk, Just enjoy the ride.02:22
Peloshk,  if you realy want to do something you cna install fancontrol , and stuff like that   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty02:22
shknah, i use a laptop02:23
Peloshk,  basicaly  ....  don't worry,  be happy02:23
shkkinda excessive02:23
shk:D02:23
shkfantastic.02:23
shkwhere do i pay?02:23
shk:P02:23
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usr13Just use my paypal account  :)02:23
Peloshk,  no need for that either but you can send donations on the site, or to any linux or FOSS  org you want02:24
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shkwonderful02:24
davidthedrakeOccasionally my computer becomes unresponsive - that is to say I can move the mouse around but cannot interact with anything open on the desktop. It appears happen randomly for no particular reason. Has anyone else experienced this and/or heard of a solution for this?02:24
shkthanks again guys02:24
usr13shk,  Yes, seriously, you can donate to any of your favorite projects.02:24
tdizzywhen im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?02:24
usr13but that's optional.02:24
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davidthedrakeOh, and it unfreezes after about 15-30 seconds.02:24
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scguy318tdizzy: wut errors specifically?02:24
unagianyone here use maya?02:25
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Pelodavidthedrake,  several ppl have mentionned something likethat,  I've experienced similar on rare occasion , usualy FF related02:25
varustahubuntu is my love02:25
LjLerisco: on my drive, which is 160gb, i get 18 seconds for the first gb, and 34 seconds for the 150th gigabyte02:25
abatshyhi02:25
joshhunt!pastebuckey02:25
ravCan anyone help me, im looking for a update for my VGA driver. But i cannot tell what VGA i have, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebuckey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
joshhunt!pastebucket02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebucket - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
abatshyhi every 102:25
joshhunt!paste02:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:25
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davidthedrakePelo, a friend of mine reported that switching from the 64-bit install to the 32-bit install stopped this behavior, are you running 64-bit?02:26
eriscoLjL, I'll kill windows if I put it at the end. that is what I know now anyways02:26
amioany one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)02:26
Pelorav, why do you think you need to update your vga driver ?02:26
wastrelamio: no such thing.02:26
acid-tripFlannel, can u answer me?02:26
eriscoLjL, well thanks for your help02:26
vmlinuz`is KDE stable for ubuntu?02:26
abatshyhu02:26
abatshyhi02:26
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, Yes02:26
Pelodavidthedrake,  no ,  x86, in my case I'm fairly certain it's ff related and it is very rare, so I don'T fret about it02:27
cafuegovmlinuz`: As stable as for any other distro, sure.02:27
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: Thanks.02:27
varustahpdfcreator02:27
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, There is even kubuntu which is a version with KDE by default instead of Gnome02:27
vmlinuz`but whats the default WM for ubuntu?02:27
tdizzywell the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.02:27
ravbecause, i was speaking with some gents in winehq channel, and im having a problem with my warcraft III installation, and he said i should update my VGA02:27
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LjLerisco: one thing, remember that this is *linear* reading speed02:27
LjLerisco: i.e. we're reading contiguous bytes02:27
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Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, Gnome, but there is also Kubuntu and Xubuntu ( KDE and XFCE )02:27
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RedEyessHi02:27
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: a whole distro just to make KDE default? Doesn't make sens >_<02:27
RedEyessI have a laptop with SATA02:28
davidthedrakePelo, rgr that. Yea, it seems to be a fairly frequent thing for me. I noticed that updating to the latest kernel build did make it happen less frequently, but it still occurs nonetheless. I guess I will search elsewhere for a solution. Thanks though ;)02:28
searaymanweb runner anyone?02:28
cafuegovmlinuz`: Metacity actually, which is the Gnome wm.02:28
eriscoLjL, so real read time is obviously worse02:28
RedEyesshow do I get the hard drive to be faster?02:28
decayif i 'upgrade' to the beta, will i lose files in my ~ dir?02:28
LjLerisco: if we were jumping around (which is what really happens, mostly, when you use a disk "for real"), we would probably see much less difference, since much - probably most - of the time would be spent in seeking02:28
wastrelamio: /win 402:28
Pelorav, what release are you running ?02:28
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, It also uses QT apps by default02:28
wastrelnvm02:28
cafuegoRedEyess: linera accelerator or rail gun02:28
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: whats QT?02:28
LjLerisco: yes, read read time is worse, but the difference between beginning and end is lesser02:28
Pelodavidthedrake, in your shoes I would give the forum a quick search02:28
ravUbuntu fiesty02:28
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, It's not really a different distro, just a different set of default applications02:28
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: ah ok02:28
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vmlinuz`Jordan_U: will be a Kubuntu in the new UBUNTU?02:29
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, No02:29
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: why02:29
cafuegoRedEyess: In other words: you can't really make disks be faster. You could buy a faster disk or use raid02:29
scguy318vmlinuz`: of course02:29
scguy318vmlinuz`: well, lemme check02:29
Pelorav, I honestly don'T know how you would go about changing the vga driver , all that needs updating should have been02:29
RedEyessok02:30
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, There are no plans to make KDE default at the moment02:30
Pelorav,  try doing a search in the www.ubuntufourms.org02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: well, theres gonna be a nice Kubuntu 7.1002:30
Pelowww.ubuntuforums.org02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: but KDE default won't be happening02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: in Ubuntu02:30
acid-trip:/02:37
cafuegoLinus says it's the law!02:37
RedEyessi install Ubuntu previously02:37
RedEyess7.0402:37
amiowastrel how to get that?02:37
tdizzyscguy318: well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.02:37
RedEyessand it was working fast02:37
ravcan you look at my glxinfo and tell me what vga i got?02:37
Flannelacid-trip: To make a personal deb, use checkinstall.02:37
vmlinuz`scguy318: ok thanks.02:37
Flannel!checkinstall | acid-trip02:37
ubotuacid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!02:37
RedEyessnow that I have reinstalled for some reason it is much slower02:37
RedEyessafter two reinstalls02:37
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RedEyesscould it be an IO problem02:37
acid-tripi want mysqltcl3.0302:37
acid-trip:/02:37
vmlinuz`thing is "I'm now in KDE" and CS freezes quiet alot in kde.. in gnome it never happens >_<02:37
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Why was your home directory not owned by you?02:37
tdizzyidk...02:37
ravhttp://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html02:37
tdizzyumm02:37
tdizzyi accidently deleted and restored the partition02:37
scguy318!checkinstall | acid-trip02:37
tdizzyand fixed the GRUB02:37
scguy318tdizzy: chmod 0777 your home?02:37
ubotuacid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!02:37
usr13Red_Tide, Show us your partition scheme.02:37
tdizzyand upon the first boot after that i got that error02:37
tdizzyumm from what?02:37
`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?02:37
usr13RedEyess, , Show us your partition scheme.02:37
Pelo!enter | RedEyess02:37
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ubotuRedEyess: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:37
Pelo!grub |02:37
Pelo!grub | `DayWalker02:37
Peloubotu,  on a break again ?02:37
usr13RedEyess, Paste it to pastebin02:37
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acid-trip========================= Installation results ===========================02:37
acid-tripmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.02:37
briganwhat was that doc bar again02:37
vmlinuz`scguy318: do you think CSS freez alot cuz im in KDE?02:37
scguy318maybe the IRC server is02:37
scguy318i cant seem to whois02:37
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acid-tripcheckinstall wont make me the package02:37
acid-trip:/02:37
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LjL!netsplit02:41
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:41
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acid-tripwb02:41
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wastrelhi02:42
acid-tripFlannel, so any ideas?02:42
acid-tripcheckinstall fails02:42
usr13RedEyess, If you've sent the link once, sorry, I missed it.  Please send again.02:42
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wa77sshow can i make vlc the default application for all media files without right clicking every different file type?02:43
RedEyesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39333/02:43
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wa77ssanyone know?02:44
tdizzyJordan_U: i got the same error when i tried to boot again...02:44
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Did you run "chmod -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername" ?02:44
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tdizzyyeah02:45
tdizzyhmm02:45
tdizzynot chmod02:45
wa77sshello?02:45
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tdizzyi ran chown02:45
tdizzylol02:45
tdizzyoops02:45
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Sorry, it should be chown02:45
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wastrelzom02:45
wastrelg02:45
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Jordan_Utdizzy, You ran the correct command if you ran chown02:45
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tdizzyoh ok02:45
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usr13wa77ss, Go to one of the files in the file manager, right click on it, click properties and change the default application used to open the file.02:45
unagihow can i run archive manager with root access?02:46
Jordan_Utdizzy, can you pastebin the exact error again ( can't scroll up because of the netsplit :)02:46
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unagii would like to extract files in a restricted folder =/02:46
wa77ssusr13, ya, but i have to do that with every single different file type02:46
astro76unagi, gksudo file-roller02:46
wa77ssisnt there a simple way for ALL media files02:46
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tdizzyok02:46
tdizzy!pastebin02:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:47
unagity02:47
Jordan_Uwa77ss, What are you trying to do?02:47
tdizzylol02:47
unagihow can i set file-roller to use gksudo every time i open an archive?02:47
wa77ssjust make vlc default audio/video player for all file types02:47
taime1can someone help mecan anyone help me get my sound working?02:47
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RedEyessI will be back in 502:47
HealthyElijahi know02:48
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tim167taime1, in which program ?02:48
wa77ssi thought there would be a simple way, i dont want to right click on every different file type you know02:48
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Jordan_Uunagi, I wouldn't make it do that every time, but in the "open with" properties add the custom command "gksudo file-roller"02:48
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taime1tim167: i have no sound at all...02:48
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taime1ubuntu refuses to recognize this sound card02:49
umop-apisdnanyone familiar with remote x servers? i'm running xming on my windows box, and want to run firefox on the linux box to remove the possiblity of exploits02:49
Jordan_Uwa77ss, There is a way to do that, forget how though.02:49
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wa77ssahah i think i came across it02:49
wa77ssa script, but it doesnt work for me02:49
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acid-trip:/02:49
acid-trippiss me of02:49
acid-trip8Off02:49
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Hubris2Trying to get MSN messenger going through Moblock is driving me nuts.  I can connect (using Pidgin) only if I choose 'http', and then all outgoing messages fail.  What ports are needed?02:49
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, ssh -X ?02:49
acid-tripcan't get this thing to work02:49
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umop-apisdnJordan_U: i'm using putty for the ssh02:50
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tim167taime1 what does 'lspci | grep audio' say ?02:50
wa77ssmaybe you can figure out how to make it work, heres the link - http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4056002:50
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umop-apisdnsupposedly, i can export DISPLAY=(local ip):0 and make it work02:50
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, That is not secure02:50
usr13wa77ss, No,   you do it for each file type.02:50
umop-apisdnJordan_U: why not? (not attacking, seeking info)02:50
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taime1tim167: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)02:51
FFighterhey folks02:51
tim167taime1, can you run alsamixer ?02:51
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usr13Hey FFighter02:51
wa77ssusr13, kk, thats the hard way but it works. thanks02:51
FFightersomething like autohotkey for linux?02:51
taime1tim167: nope02:51
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taime1tim167: says no device02:51
FFighterautohotkey is really handy and flexible02:51
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PeloFFighter, check in synaptic02:52
acid-tripchecking for correct TEA configuration... ok (TEA 3.5)02:52
acid-tripchecking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions02:52
FFighterPelo, for what?02:52
taime1tim167: also, my modules WERE loaded, then after some tinkering, they disappeared02:52
tdizzyJordan_U: k got both error messages02:52
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PeloFFighter,  hotkey02:52
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FFighterPelo, hmmm is it a port?02:52
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tdizzyJordan_U: first i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/02:52
acid-tripanyway to define where the tcl config files are?02:52
wastrelautohotkey02:52
PeloFFighter, I'm not sayingthere is anything,  just do a search for hotkey and see what is available if anything02:52
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tim167taime1, hmm sorry I dont really know then...02:53
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Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, http://meshier.com/docs/oreilly/tcpip2/ssh/ch09_03.htm02:53
FFighterPelo, nothing02:53
lucashungaroCan I open a .rar file compressed in Windows with Ubuntu? I'm getting an error.02:53
FFighterPelo, do you know autohotkey?02:53
Hubris2Anyone have experince getting MSN(Pidgin/Gaim) going through firewalls in general?02:54
alex116is there a channel dedicated to using linux as a router?02:54
usr13lucashungaro, Yes02:54
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PeloFFighter, a linux equivalent may not have the same name,  just seach for hotkey and read the definitions02:54
taime1why doesnt alsa recognize my sound card??02:54
astro76lucashungaro, install unrar, then the archive manager can handle it02:54
RedEyessusr13: any thoughts?02:54
Hubris2lucashungaro: Archive Manager can open .rar02:54
FFighterPelo, yes I know but nothing relevant cam02:54
FFightercame02:54
FFighteranyway02:54
FFighterthanks02:54
PeloFFighter, also try  www.getdeb.net02:54
lucashungaroIt's saying that it's an unsupported package type02:55
Pelotaime1,  look up your soundcard model in the forum and in here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport    www.ubuntuforums.org02:55
umop-apisdnJordan_U: my linux machine will be the router/gateway for my LAN, so i don't think that's an issue02:55
umop-apisdnJordan_U: but thank you very much for the info02:55
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usr13lucashungaro, apt-get install unrar02:56
Jordan_Utdizzy, OK, now try running this ( it really is supposed to be chmod this time ) "chmod 644 /home/yourusername/.dmrc"02:56
Peloalex116, try in #networking02:56
lucashungaroOk, I'm installing unrar with Synaptic02:56
RedEyessI have a new laptop02:56
lucashungarousr13: Thanks02:56
usr13RedEyess, I don't see any swap partitions for one thing.  How much memory does your system have?02:56
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RedEyess1.5 gigs02:56
RedEyessthere should a swap drive partition02:57
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, The easiest thing to do would probably be to open an xterm and just run "ssh -X username@ip"02:57
lucashungaroHow can I write files into my Windows partition?02:57
Jordan_U!ntfs-3g | lucashungaro02:57
Pelo!ntfs-3g | lucashungaro02:57
ubotulucashungaro: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:57
RedEyesshuh02:57
RedEyessit's on /dev/sda502:57
usr13RedEyess, You say you have installed 2 times now?02:57
lucashungaroOk, thank you very much guys02:57
tim167taime1: there is also an #alsa channel...02:57
leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:57
RedEyess3 times02:57
RedEyesshow do I mount the swap drive then?02:58
PeloRedEyess, did you let the installer do the partitionnning or did you do it manualy ?02:58
RedEyessdo I put that in /etc/fsab02:58
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RedEyessmanually02:58
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RedEyessyes, I am a fool!02:58
leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:58
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PeloRedEyess, not a fool just uninformed02:58
tdizzyJordan_U: i ran that command but i get the very same error02:58
h1st0RedEyess: why isn't your swap mounted?02:58
RedEyessnot sure02:58
coreyodoes anyone have a successful mod-mon + apache set up using the feisty packages?  I'm having the following problem: http://monoport.com/488402:58
Hubris2Anyone ever fought with a firewall and getting MSN to connect?  I can connect, but get 'connection refused' on all outgoing messages02:59
lostwrxirc://irc.abjects.net/04502:59
thesaint4444LjL: any idea why i should not be able to ssh into my box after adding my drive to the fstab and rebooting?02:59
RedEyesshow do I set this up at this point without a reinstall?02:59
h1st0RedEyess: are you sure that it isn't?02:59
Peloh1st0,  cause he didn't make one02:59
h1st0!fstab > RedEyess02:59
h1st0!mount > RedEyess02:59
Flannel!swap | RedEyess02:59
ubotuRedEyess: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:59
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leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:59
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FlannelThat's what you really want.02:59
RedEyessright02:59
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usr13RedEyess, You issued command   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda6  when you should have issued command    fdisk -l /dev/sda02:59
Peloleladia, why don'T you just try it out and see if it works02:59
h1st0leladia: sure why note02:59
RedEyessok03:00
RedEyesslet me try again03:00
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leladiai have tried it out but i get some error messages at the beginning before the final output03:00
usr13RedEyess, You installed 2 times now?   Why?  What happened the first time?03:00
PeloRedEyess, for the simple way I suggest you install and use the guided partitionning03:00
leladiawhich shows that the command is not too alright03:00
LjLthesaint4444: because you messed up the fstab format and the system didn't boot? because you mounted it on /home without having copied the contents of /home there first?03:00
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leladiai just want to knw what i am missing out03:00
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imperfect-Anyone know how I completely remove apache and apache2 from my system?03:01
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RedEyessrepasted.03:01
leladiaor what other way i could write it to stop the error messages at the beginning03:01
RedEyessplease refresh03:01
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usr13RedEyess, Oh, I see,  /dev/sda5  is swap  (sorry, didn't see that before.)03:01
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leladiah1st0: pls can u help me out?03:02
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h1st0leladia: shouldn't it be lastcomm | grep $user | grep $date03:02
RedEyesshowever, swap is showing in my /etc/fstab file03:02
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leladialet me try that and see03:03
h1st0leladia: you forgot the first |03:03
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thesaint4444LjL: hi, no I just tried to mount one of the other drives, i partioned it, formated it, made a directory called /data1, edited the fstab to /dev/sdb1 /data1 auto 1 2 and then rebooted..03:03
h1st0leladia: and grep `date` or whatever4 you were trying.03:03
RickXdul boot question: I'd like to install Ubuntu in dual boot to test it out. How do I keep it from overwriting my present Grub?03:03
RedEyessso this should be explaining my slow times03:03
imperfect-Jesus03:03
imperfect-why is this so hard03:03
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imperfect-What's it take to get apache2.conf written from a deb?03:03
thesaint4444LjL: cant ssh in now even though the port pings...03:03
imperfect-apt-get install apache2 doesn't install it03:03
imperfect-so wtf03:03
LjLthesaint4444: that fstab line is missing a column03:03
RedEyessdoesn't install wwhat?03:03
jribimperfect-: dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   will tell you why03:04
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astro76RedEyess, type 'free', do you see swap there? swap is not mounted like other filesystems03:04
h1st0!info apache2 | imperfect-03:04
ubotuimperfect-: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB03:04
leladiah1st0: i am using csh and $date is not valid03:04
astro76RedEyess, it's in fstab, but it doesn't show up when you type mount03:04
imperfect-jrib: that package is already installed03:04
imperfect-jrib: and yet, no file03:04
jribimperfect-: purge it and install it again03:04
RedEyessastro76: swap is shown when i type 'free'03:04
astro76RedEyess, then your swap is fine03:05
h1st0leladia: no go back to the way where tyring to do it with `date`  but you were forgetting the first | after lastcom03:05
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usr13RedEyess, dmesg |grep swap03:05
h1st0imperfect-: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache203:05
h1st0imperfect-: sudo apt-get install apache203:05
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Hubris2Anyone familiar with Moblock useage?03:05
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leladiah1st0: okay03:05
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thesaint4444LjL: /dev/sdb1       /data   ext2    defaults        1 2 - thats what i used...03:06
RedEyessusr13: posted again03:06
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thesaint4444LjL - think thats ok?03:06
leladiah1st0: it didn't work03:06
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LjLthesaint4444: ah that's better, yes... i can't understand why it wouldn't boot. that says /data though, you said the directory was /data1?03:06
LjLthesaint4444: (besides, why aren't you using ext3?)03:07
thevare there any programs for syncing up directories?03:07
h1st0leladia: okay try it one part at a time.03:07
usr13RedEyess, Send link.03:07
h1st0leladia: lastcomm | grep $user03:07
Jordan_Uthev, rsync03:07
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h1st0leladia: see if you get coutput03:07
thesaint4444LJL: yeah data1 sorry i mistyped...03:07
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RedEyesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/03:07
thevThanks Jordan_U - I'll check it out03:07
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thesaint4444LjL: yeah i used ext3 aswell...03:07
LjLthesaint4444: you had formatted the partition of course?03:07
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RedEyessthe wierd thing that once I am logged in, after 5 minutes, the response time is alot better03:08
thesaint4444LjL: yes..03:08
LjLthesaint4444: i really don't know, it looks fine to me03:08
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unagican someone goto unreal.com and tell me if it loads for you03:08
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unagiall i get is a white block on a black background and i cant figure out why03:08
usr13RedEyess, Everything looks ok, far as I can tell.03:09
RedEyesshmmm03:09
thesaint4444LjL: partioned then formated ...03:09
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JuJuBee_Anybody use squid here?03:09
RedEyessso could it be something to do with a SATA drive under Ubuntu?03:09
Jordan_Utdizzy, Try this just as a stab in the dark, in recovery mode run "touch /forcefsck" then reboot and it should run an fsck ( disk check / repair ) when you boot again, then try logging in again03:09
RedEyessI have used squid before03:09
LjL!nickspam | st33med03:09
ubotust33med: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines03:09
thesaint4444LjL: box pings but i cant ssh in...03:09
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D4N`Hello03:09
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usr13RedEyess, But, you said earlier that you installed 2 times before? Or that you re-installed?  Can you elaborate?03:09
leladiah1st0: this is what i am getting http://rafb.net/p/WLNA1n71.html03:09
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Jordan_Uthesaint4444, Do you have openssh-server installed?03:09
RedEyessI have reinstalled after reformatting the partition03:10
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RedEyessreinstalled twice before03:10
JuJuBee_I got squid running on my server in my classroom.  It has a public IP address.  I want to point my browser from home to it (watch what my daughter is doing).03:10
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JuJuBee_What do i need to do?03:10
kRushunagi, same here03:10
thesaint4444LjL: yes...03:10
RedEyesswhat type of ip is squid running on?03:10
unagioh ok so its on their side maybe?03:10
usr13RedEyess, What was the reason for re-installing 2 times?03:10
h1st0leladia: did you try it with jjust lastcomm | grep $user03:10
LjLthesaint4444, i don't know.03:10
RedEyessI wanted to start from scratch03:10
JuJuBee_currently the internal rfc191803:10
leladiayes i did03:10
RedEyessI have windows also installed on this machine and I don't have problems with it03:11
usr13RedEyess, Are you talking about slow internet access?03:11
leladiaand it worked03:11
Jordan_UJuJuBee_, Have you looked at the proxy settings?03:11
RedEyessnot slow internet access03:11
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Skwid_hey everyone, my laptop keeps shutting down telling me that the critical temperature has been reached, but im not sure if it's a ubuntu problem or a hardware problem, any sugestion ?03:11
LjLthesaint4444: perhaps the partition is really big and it's just running fsck...?03:11
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leladiabut i want to filter out the ones for the current month03:11
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usr13RedEyess, You just mentioned squid... ?03:11
RedEyessit takes a long time for my laptop to boot up03:11
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JuJuBee_Yes, I set it up.  I figure I need to add the allowed network my home computer belongs to.03:11
Jordan_URedEyess, Linux isn't great when it comes to boot speed03:11
usr13RedEyess, Oh, takes long time to boot.03:11
RedEyessI was trying to answer someone else. Two different thigns03:11
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usr13RedEyess, Have you done all your updates?03:12
thesaint4444LjL: does it run fsck when it first starts up?03:12
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RedEyessusr13: yes for the updates03:12
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LjLthesaint4444: shouldn't. really just a hypothesis03:12
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Ice|WorkI'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my string.h and iostream.h aren't to be found. is there an issue w/ the build environment?03:12
thesaint4444LjL: partition was 148 gigs...03:12
usr13RedEyess, It is fully updated?03:12
LjLSkwid_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/4480503:12
eris_hi ubuntu people03:12
RedEyessice:work: have you installed g++03:12
leladiah1st0: i am trying to display all the times a user used the grep command within the current month03:12
RedEyessit is fully updated03:12
Ice|WorkRedEyess: build-essentials right?03:13
Ice|Workbecause g++ is present on the system03:13
JuJuBee_Im guessing I need to open the port on my external nic in IPtables.03:13
RedEyessice|work: that is strange03:13
usr13RedEyess, what does    uname -a     say?03:13
RedEyessand you are doing include <string>03:13
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Ice|WorkRedEyess: of course.03:14
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h1st0leladia: does lastcomm | grep $user work?03:14
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RedEyessLinux spock 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux03:14
leladiah1st0: yes03:14
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usr13RedEyess, What processor(s) do you have in this machine?03:14
RedEyessdual core centrino03:15
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h1st0leladia: well then try something like lastcomm | grep $user > temp.txt03:16
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h1st0leladia: cat temp.txt | grep `date`03:16
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thesaint4444LJL - would a damaged fstab cause that problem?03:16
usr13RedEyess, Well you can poke around at the HD parameters and see if anything looks amiss  (See man hdpram)  but be careful03:16
h1st0leladia: although the double | should be working so there is aparently a problem with grep `date`03:16
usr13hdparm not hdpram03:17
RedEyessdoes hdparm work for SATA drives?03:17
h1st0leladia: anyway i'll be back a lil bit later i'm sure someone else with more knowledge than I could help you out.  You may also want to ask in #linuxhelp or #linux or something.03:17
usr13RedEyess, I do not know.03:17
leladiah1st0: i think u are beginning to understand what i  am saying03:17
RedEyessbecause my computer is seeing the hard drive as scsi device, I think03:17
RedEyessnot hda but sda03:17
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usr13RedEyess,  And I do not know why your system boots slow.... But...03:18
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lumpycamRedEyess - that's normal03:18
RedEyessthat's not normal for this laptop03:18
RedEyessit was able to boot much faser03:18
RedEyessfaster03:18
RedEyessi have disabled my wireless internet03:18
unagiwhy is it that i cannot refresh my wireless list with the default network manager?03:19
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Skwid_at what temperature is a laptop suppose to run ??03:19
lumpycamRedEyess - what does dmesg show, anything in particular?03:19
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RedEyessit says alot in dmesg03:20
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usr13RedEyess, See:  http://hermann.czedik.net/ubuntu_initng.html03:20
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RedEyessbut I don't see any glaring errors03:20
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|rt|anyone know the file that you need to put the mysql root password in so that apt can install databases properly with applications that require them?03:21
r0ssar00has anyone had some bad experiences with dhcp?03:21
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kstgn.03:22
r0ssar00i cant connect to my router in linux through anything, ive always used dhcp03:22
usr13RedEyess, And: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144831&page=1903:22
lumpycam|rt| - it used to be mysqladmin to set root mysql pass.03:22
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Nambrais there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?03:23
r0ssar00i use ifup eth0 to connect and it starts using netmask 255.255.255.255, which is incorrect03:23
usr13lumgwada, Try    sudo dhclient eth003:23
dwxreaperros: you still use dhcp, check ifconfig -a03:23
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|rt|lumpycam: i seem to recall a file that let you put the password in it so that dpkg-reconfigure or what ever part of dpkg/apt would use to setup database stuff03:23
r0ssar00im in windows right now03:23
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RedEyessthanks for the help everyone03:24
|rt|it was somewhere in /etc but I can't find any reference to it on the community docs03:24
usr13lumgwada, or:    /etc/init.d/networking restart      (BTW, is it wired or wireless.)03:24
zymishHello. My husband is an idiot and forgot his password; is there a way for him to bypass the login screen? Or is there a way for him to recover his password?03:24
dwxreaperuse gnome to set the network settings, or delete that app ( i don't like it ) and set change the /etc/networking/interfaces configuration file03:24
r0ssar00wired03:24
|rt|I think it was someone here who pointed me to it the last time03:24
r0ssar00dwxreaper: done that, still won't work03:24
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RedEyessif you have another user on the system you can remove the password from /etc/shadow03:24
SkaryHas anyone had an issue with the install cd not configuring grub properly, with a seporate /boot partition?03:24
eris_zymish: yes there is a way03:24
jribzymish: do you have your account with the ability to sudo?03:24
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RedEyessand then have you reset the password03:24
dino_System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager <-- if i cant find any restricted drivers for my ati card there, does it mean i cannot use compiz fusion/beryl?03:24
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dwxreaperross: paste your interfaces configuration file03:25
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|rt|zymish: are there any accounts in the admin group on the system that you know the passwords for?03:25
zymishJust the one account.03:25
r0ssar00dwx reaper: see the default, but with the netmask 255.255.255.003:25
jrib!password > zymish (read the private message from ubotu)03:25
zymishI'm on a different computer.03:25
r0ssar00dwx: im in windows right now03:25
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lumpycam|rt| - i'm not aware of that. 'do' set the mysqladmin rule should still be correct.03:25
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dwxreaperros: well i would need that to help you03:25
|rt|lumpycam: ok I'll give it a go thanks03:25
r0ssar00dwx: brb03:25
eris_zymish: you can boot using the ubuntu desktop disk and modify /etc/passwd by mounting the hard disk in question03:25
dwxreaperbut restart the networking services /etc/init.d/networking restart03:25
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usr13<r0ssar00>  can you ping the router?03:25
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r0ssar00dwx: k03:26
r0ssar00usr13: no03:26
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jribzymish: erm, just realized that may not be enough info.  Boot into recovery mode (choice at the grub menu) and then issue the following command:  passwd YOUR_USERNAME03:26
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|rt|zymish: you can boot into recovery mode and should be able to reset the password using passwd <username>03:26
dwxreaperros: you do not have mac-address filtering enabled on your router right03:26
Nambrais there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?03:26
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usr13  <r0ssar00>  Did you try:  /etc/init.d/networking restart03:26
cypher1r0ssar00, is your routing table looks good ?03:27
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leladiapls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'03:28
leladiapls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'03:29
taxmanis there a way to choose a name for the pdf file when printing to cups-pdf?03:29
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etzerdhello all03:29
etzerd?03:29
taxmanhello03:29
usr13r0ssar00,  Restart network and watch for errors:  sudo /etc/init.d networking restart   or try    sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop    and then   sudo /etc/init.d/networking start03:29
etzerdis it safe to install ubuntu 7.10 beta in my system now?03:29
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usr13r0ssar00  and watch for errors.03:30
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zymishHis computer is now saying "grub loding, please wait" for a moment, then it says "error 24". -shrug- I think it's just a piece of crap in addition to him forgetting his password.03:30
etzerdlast time I installed it I did not have the option to choose the operating system that I want to use e.i windows or ubuntu03:30
cypher1leladia, isnt it already showing like that ?03:30
taxmanetzerd: not if it's an important system03:30
pinkeyHow do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.03:30
taxmanetzerd: if you keep your Windows partition and install Ubuntu with grub you'll have that option03:31
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cypher1leladia, try date +%b03:31
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etzerdTaxman: I did but still when the system boot up ubuntu came up automaticly.03:32
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orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:32
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zymishAs soon as he can get it working, he'll reset the password. Thank you, jrib and |rt|.03:32
taxmanetzerd: do you have the OS's on differen't hd's? Either way, it looks like now you'll need to configure grub03:33
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leladiacypher1: u are the 'man'03:33
leladiathanks03:33
tompouceHi!03:33
cypher1leladia, you are welcome03:33
taxmanetzerd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29 or the real grub docs linked there should help you03:33
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cypher1!hi tompouce03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi tompouce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:34
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tompouceHey, I want to test KDE4, I downloaded every kde4 package, and now I wonder how do I boot on KDE4? It isn't in the session list thingie... Could you help me?03:34
etzerdthanks taxman.03:34
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taxmannp03:34
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leladiacypher1: it means i have more questions for u, so keep the line open... :)03:34
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r0ssar00dwx: here it is auto lo03:34
r0ssar00iface lo inet loopback03:34
r0ssar00auto eth003:34
r0ssar00iface eth0 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto eth103:34
r0ssar00iface eth1 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto eth203:34
cypher1leladia, sure03:34
r0ssar00iface eth2 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto ath003:34
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orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:34
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luk1hey03:35
sircharle1How do I find out my cpu type i.e. ppc, i38603:35
taxmandoes anyone know of a pdf printing option where you can choose the filename to save as?03:35
etzerdrightnow I have windows Vista and OpenSuse 10.3 RC1 install. I'm going to uninstall Suse 10.3 RC1 to try out the latest beta version of ubuntu.03:35
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|rt|sircharle1: what type of computer do you have?03:35
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tonyyarussosircharle1: cat /proc/cpuinfo will help03:35
sircharle1toshiba satellite03:35
|rt|sircharle1: then you have i38603:35
dwxreaperros: no ip addresses with ifconfig -a  | more ?03:35
blankReghi all03:35
sircharle1kk thnx03:35
usr13<r0ssar0:  Still not connecting?03:35
dwxreaperwdo you know what nic, is the nic you want to get the dhcp addy03:35
cypher1tompouce, not sure but you can try run the command kdm03:35
|rt|sircharle1: ppc is pretty much just older Apple computers these days as far as laptops and desktop's go03:36
usr13r0ssar00:  You might try rebooting the router.  (Routing tables may be a bit scrambled).03:36
|rt|sircharle1: ibm still uses alot of ppc in their server stuff as well03:36
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r0ssar00dwx: did you get that?03:37
NateBerkopechey all, how do I run a shell script in a folder when using sudo? I'm getting "command not found"03:37
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dwxreaperros: yes I replied03:37
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r0ssar00didnt get the reply, paste booted me03:37
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zymishDoes anyone know what Error 24 and 25 are? He can't get into the GRUB now because of those.03:38
NateBerkopeci.e. (sudo ./shellscript.sh), why doesnt this work? how to get around?03:38
dwxreaperare you getting an ip address at all: ifconfig -a | more03:38
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r0ssar00nope03:38
dwxreaperwhat nic is supposed to get an address, does it show an up status, ethernet wise03:38
usr13r0ssar00, Yes, you need to use pastebin.03:38
dwxreaperross: you can use ethtool , to see if your link is up, has a light on the back of the nic03:38
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r0ssar00eth0 gets the address, when i do ifup twice, it says its already up03:38
r0ssar00oh, the link is up, just not getting an ip03:39
dino_Anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56444503:39
r0ssar00trust me, i checked the cables03:39
leladiacypher1: ur help has unlocked the problematic door of my assignment which is to display all the instances a $user used a particular command within the current month.  so what i have done is: lastcomm 'command' $user | grep `date +%b` where 'command' is the command u are looking for.  thanks a million03:39
usr13r0ssar00, ifconfig eth0  does not show an IP address?03:39
mindrapeNateBerkopec - you could put the shell script in /usr/local/bin and chmod +x it and just sudo shellscript.sh03:39
dwxreaperross: ethtool "interface" , see if the link is up at proper speed / duplex (not that it's your problem)03:39
r0ssar00correct03:39
pinkeyHow do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.03:39
Jordan_Upinkey, What GPU?03:39
mindrapepinkey - you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:39
r0ssar00brb, gotta try some more commands03:39
usr13r0ssar00, Did you try restarting the router?03:39
dwxreaperross: verify that is the nic that is connected to your router, eth003:40
r0ssar00yep, and yep03:40
cypher1leladia, cool.. enjoy03:40
sanzanricyou could just put "sudo"  as the first line of the script03:40
dwxreaperros: uninstall that gnome network manager thing it sucks03:40
r0ssar00and so i will brb03:40
sanzanricget wicd03:40
dwxreaperross: just change the configuration file03:40
Jordan_Umindrape, Not necessarily, pinkey may just need the right drivers03:40
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r0ssar00and i will uninstall it03:40
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dwxreaperross: yeah it causes problems03:41
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mindrapeJordan_U - well if they have the wrong driver that is going to need to be updated in xorg.conf as well as the resolution options...03:41
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dwxreaperit doesn't interoperate well when you manually change the configuration03:41
pinkeyJordan_ I'm trying to determine the GPU.  It's a sony Vaio if that helps.03:41
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usr13r0ssar00, You could just use static IP.  Try a static IP, (one that is not being used and is not in the dhcp pool) and put dns addresses in /etc/resolv.conf03:42
DevourerOk.03:42
DevourerWhat do I use to burn and ISO file onto a CD?03:42
pinkeyJordan_U, its Intel? GM965 Express Chipset03:42
Devoureran*03:42
sanzanricsystem>preference>devices look for you gpu03:42
Jordan_Umindrape, Not if they use restricted manager03:42
Jordan_U!resolution | pinkey03:42
ubotupinkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:42
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cypher1!burn | Devourer03:43
ubotuDevourer: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto03:43
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Ice|WorkI'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my <string> and <iostream> aren't to be found. Any clue what might be going on?03:43
Jordan_Upinkey, Try switching to the "intel" driver as described on that page03:43
Devourercypher1: Thank you.03:43
JamesinatorI have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.03:43
cypher1Devourer, you are welcome03:43
orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:43
sanzanricgma965 driver suck03:43
pinkeyJordan_U, thanks, I'll give that a try03:44
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Jordan_UIce|Work, What command gives you what error exactly?03:44
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BUDD}{Acan someone tell me why i am getting no video with any media player or with my tv card03:44
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Ice|Workrunning my source through g++ gives me arraylist.h:17: error: string does not name a type03:45
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emaconlinehello03:46
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IndyGunFreakBUDD}{A: i'd guess your'e doing something wrong... :)..03:46
JamesinatorI have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.03:46
emaconlineanyone can help on running beryl on ubuntu03:46
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cypher1Ice|Work, i think you need libstdc++ dev libraries03:46
zetheroohow do I know that the fglrx drivers are installed on my box?03:46
IndyGunFreak!beryl | emaconline03:46
ubotuemaconline: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:46
BUDD}{Ayea thanks that was very helpful03:46
emaconlinethanks03:46
Ice|Workcypher1: installed build-essentials... and says libstdc++ is installed, i checked already03:46
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IndyGunFreakBUDD}{A:  i strive, only thing less helpful was your explanation03:47
JamesinatorIndyGunFreak: Let's not throw coal on the fire now03:47
IndyGunFreakmoi?03:47
cypher1Ice|Work, what is "dpkg -S iostream" showing for you ?03:47
zetheroois there a command in the terminal to check if the fglrx drivers are installed ?03:47
IndyGunFreaklol03:47
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Ice|Worklibstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/iostream03:48
Ice|Worklibstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/backward/iostream.h03:48
r0ssar00dwx: i have the output of ethtool and its saying the link isn't up, but in windows on the same machine, the link *is* up03:48
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zetheroohow do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?03:48
sexcopterhi, i'm sat here with my wireless keyboard and feeling quite lazy to get up and get the mouse. is there a way to get the applications menu up with the keyboard?03:48
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Jamesinatorquit03:49
OleMoudisexcopter, alt+F103:49
OleMoudior alt+F2 and exec anything03:49
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h1st0!away > cypher103:50
sexcopterOleMoudi: great! thanks03:50
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furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers03:50
r0ssar00any ideas dwx?03:51
delmarPB DONE03:51
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delmarBorg and grobal03:51
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zetheroohow do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?03:52
delmarhelps if i have teh right window clicked..03:52
r0ssar00obviously this is a linux problem03:52
h1st0zetheroo: read the message from ubotu03:52
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danoHey all, my wacom stylus, and external display no longer work.  Any ideas on how to begin to trouble shoot it?03:52
Ice|Workso im guessing no more ideas about these headers and g++ not wanting to compile?03:52
h1st0r0ssar00: what kind of network card are you trying to get to work?03:52
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r0ssar00standard realtek 8139 gigabit, worked 2 days ago03:53
r0ssar00i think its 813903:53
h1st0r0ssar00: yeah should pretty much just work.03:53
r0ssar00i know its 81_903:53
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r0ssar00thing is it work 2 days ago03:53
h1st0r0ssar00: did you try sudo ifup eth(x)03:53
cypher1Ice|Work, you can start debugging by explicitly mentioning the paths to the header files.. but that will be more of C++ than ubuntu i guess03:53
r0ssar00yep03:53
r0ssar00many times03:53
kyjacan we talk beta here now?03:54
r0ssar00many many times03:54
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cypher1kyja, i think #ubuntu+103:54
Flannelkyja: Nope, still #ubuntu+1, until it goes stable03:54
kyjakk thx03:54
furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers03:54
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h1st0kyja: no bug reporting and testing is in #ubuntu+103:54
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cypher1furenku, what does iwconfig say ?03:54
tinman47Heys03:55
nrdbhow do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.03:55
h1st0r0ssar00: is the module for the card getting loaded?03:55
r0ssar00must be, i get an eth0 entry, would i still get that if the module *want* loaded?03:55
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pinkeyJordan_U, thanks I got it working.  Ahh, this is so much nicer.03:55
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tinman47Is there any place where I can get tutorials on Drawing?03:55
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lekuwhere can I get help with gutsy?03:56
Ice|Workcypher1: i just don't understand why it's a "C++" issue. If the stdlibc++ is there, it should see it. but that's just me. :(03:56
Jordan_Utinman47, Drawing what?03:56
Ice|Workcall me crazy or whatnot03:56
Jordan_Uleku, #ubuntu+103:56
tinman47Like anything.03:56
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furenkucypher1, "no wireless extensions" (two times, for lo and eth003:56
tinman47_ develop skills03:56
lekuthanks03:56
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furenku)03:56
pinkeyTo install ubuntu on my laptop was a chore.  The timezone screen was too big, and so the buttons were off the screen and could not be clicked.  The dialog box could not be resized.  I had to hit "tab" enough times to focus on "ok" by counting the right number, mostly by guessing.03:56
Jordan_Utinman47, Using drawing applications or just drawing?03:57
cypher1Ice|Work, i am not sure.. it was just my opinion sorry.. probably some one else will answer you03:57
h1st0r0ssar00: nah what sort of errors are you getting ith the card?03:57
tinman47Anything, like traditional, just to develop skill.03:57
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tinman47Paper and pencil.03:57
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tinman47Just need a link.03:57
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r0ssar00not seeing anything, in dmesg or otherwise, ifup just keeps trying, then sleeps a bit, then tries again, rinse, repeat03:57
cypher1furenku, does the wireless card show in lspci output ?03:57
Jordan_Upinkey, Yea, it really should be made to work at low resolutions ( though most get at least 1024x768 with the LiveCD )03:58
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northeryo03:58
colin_whatup03:58
gregoroviusanybody here uses ktorrent's rss feature and care to explain how to make it work?03:58
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Jordan_Utinman47, This channel is for Ubuntu support, try #ubuntu-offtopic possibly03:58
h1st0r0ssar00: so your not getting an ip?03:58
gregoroviusi'm not getting along with regex03:58
r0ssar00correct03:58
kersinc0#ubuntu-es03:58
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tinman47oh, thanx.03:59
furenkucypher 1, yes,03:59
pinkeyJordan_U, I used live CD but it only went to 800x600.  Just now, however, it's at 1200x800, and is so much more readable.  Thanks again.03:59
h1st0r0ssar00: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces03:59
h1st0r0ssar00: also try using the network-manager applet03:59
r0ssar00itll be in pastebin, gimme a sec03:59
colin_having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both03:59
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colin_anyone have an answer for me?03:59
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r0ssar00pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39343/04:00
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northerok can anyone help me out install steam via wine, im at the part where its asking for a root folder but doesn't want one i guess heh... the winehq area arent talking04:00
kamersHI04:00
Jordan_Upinkey, And for future reference ( though you should never have to do it ) you can move a window by holding option / alt and dragging it04:00
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kamersanyone please04:00
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Jordan_Ukamers, You need to ask a question to get an answer :)04:00
r0ssar00ill be on tomorrow, bout 7 canadian eastern time, i g2g now04:00
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kamersehhehehe sure04:00
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kamersany xorg.conf expert?04:01
h1st0!ask | kamers04:01
ubotukamers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:01
scrimple101Hi everyone, couldn't fix the menu problem - had to do a reinstall after deleting everything, then used Aptoncd, WOW what a great program, saved me heaps of time.04:01
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kamersok then... is there a way to make xorg ignore de "PixClock" maximum (erroneously) detected?04:01
furenkucypher1, yes, its present in lspci04:02
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DevourerGood ol' Ubuntu, making life easy.04:02
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h1st0kamers: remove it from the xorg.conf?  i'm not quite sure what you are trying to do.04:02
scrimple101i'll never try and make it look like a Mac again04:02
kamersi cannot find references or docs for how xorg server deals with the "pixclock" or dotclock parameters04:03
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Jordan_Ukamers, What is pixclock ?04:03
kersinc0#ubuntu-es04:03
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kamersxorg.conf is ok, the sis740 (sis) ok, and monitor ok, but xorg detects erroneously a "60 Hz" maximum for PixClock...04:03
h1st0kamers: maybe wiki.x.org04:03
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open-glsomeone check my post and see if everything is correct04:04
h1st0kamers: you can specify your own values if its wrong04:04
open-glhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3460057#post346005704:04
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ubuntulusershttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg04:04
kamerssee, i cannot specify "dotclocks". or, i can, but xorg server will ignore it on loading of xorg.conf04:04
ubuntulusershi04:04
ubuntulusersthat's my workspace04:04
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h1st0open-gl: looks okay other than you shouldn't have to edit /etc/modules the module should be loaded already04:05
mneptok!offtopic | ubuntulusers04:05
open-glubuntulusers what type of money is that04:05
ubotuubuntulusers: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:05
ubuntulusersopen-gl, euros04:05
h1st0open-gl: and firmware should be extracted to /lib/firmware/`uname -r`04:05
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kamersyou know, the .conf is fine (i see it in the xorg.conf.log) but the server chooses to ignore it, because of that detected "maximum"04:06
open-glh1st0 what set should i do that on04:06
h1st0open-gl: huh?04:06
GamingXHello everyone, how do I compile C programs in Ubuntu?04:06
scguy318_2GamingX: you need the build-essential metapackage04:06
open-glbetter yet just tell me the full command04:06
h1st0open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`04:06
kamersits obviously wrong, since vesa reports the monitor is 1024x768@75 capable04:07
scguy318_2GamingX: and how do you want to build? command-line? or IDE?04:07
open-glok04:07
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vmlinuz`gdm or kdm?04:07
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h1st0open-gl: then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx04:07
kamersand i have already used it at those configurations with win (no problems)04:07
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open-glh1st0 i did do that on step 204:07
h1st0open-gl: the module should be loading by default even without the firmware present.  it just won't work untill it is.04:07
GamingXscguy318_2: I wrote the code in using gedit...04:07
colin_anybody else have audio troubles with a dell e1505/640004:07
colin_?04:07
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h1st0open-gl: just like I typed it above.04:08
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scguy318_2colin_: i dont own one, but whats the question04:08
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kamersmy specific question is: who is detecting it wrong? I think is the sis driver04:08
h1st0open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`     That will put it in /lib/firmware/2.6.20-16-generic/04:08
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h1st0open-gl: or whatever kernel you are currently running04:08
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h1st0!anyone > colin_04:09
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kamersi have already read ALL the contents of xorg wiki... ;)04:09
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kamersi think i have a brand new bug here...04:09
h1st0kamers: you may want to ask them then.04:09
open-glmastershrek showed me a different way yesterday and it worked but i forgot what i did04:09
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GamingXHow do I compile the code?04:09
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scguy318GamingX: gcc04:09
h1st0kamers: #xorg04:09
scguy318GamingX: man gcc for info04:09
GamingX!gcc04:09
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:09
kamersok tks04:09
h1st0kamers: they may be of more help than anyone here04:09
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kamersfine...tks anyway ;)04:10
colin_having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the04:10
colin_          headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer04:10
colin_          but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both04:10
h1st0!compile > GamingX04:10
scguy318!sound | colin_04:10
ubotucolin_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:10
h1st0colin_: i'm so confused by your question04:10
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colin_yeah alsa is enabled04:10
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h1st0colin_: Your statement makes absolutely no sense04:10
colin_what is so confusing in the mixer there are three sliders or faders a headphone fader and a speaker fader04:11
cjae_!compile04:11
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:11
h1st0colin_: "but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both?"04:11
colin_affect the volume04:11
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colin_of both04:11
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h1st0colin_: perhaps your soundcard only has one output04:11
colin_no04:11
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h1st0colin_: where are you plugging the headphones in to and where are you pluggin the speakers in to?04:11
colin_so basically if i use the headphone port the sound still comes outta the laptop speakers04:11
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h1st0colin_: ahh04:12
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h1st0colin_: that makes sense04:12
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colin_there are 2 faders04:12
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colin_in the mixer04:12
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colin_but if i turn off the speaker fader it still comes out of the internal speakers04:12
h1st0colin_: the hardware should be turning off the speakers on the laptop when headphones are plugged in not the mixer04:12
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towskisI'm having trouble connecting to an encrypted network. It asks for a WPA passphrase, I put the correct passphrase in, but it times out on trying to get a second green dot. Any ideas?04:12
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manduskihey guys how do you join the XUBUNTU chat?04:12
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h1st0!wpa > towskis04:12
Hilikusdoes feisty server install by default apache or apache2?? or, how do i know which one i have04:12
colin_i dunno how true that is. I own another dell laptop and it has 2 faders and i can turn off the internal speakers04:13
h1st0Hilikus: by default nothing unless you select a lamp install04:13
colin_with the speaker fader04:13
cjae_how do I make stream tuner not rip to /opt/ripped04:13
chris__could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?04:13
furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers - the card does show up on lspci, but on iwconfig i get "no wireless extensions" for lo and eth004:13
Hilikush1st0 i did04:13
colin_so there is something wrong with my alsa04:13
h1st0Hilikus: dpkg -l | grep apache04:13
manduskihey guys how can i join the xubuntu chat?04:13
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cypher1furenku, sorry was away04:13
h1st0colin_: possibly did you try searching the forums?  ubuntuforums.org  search for your specific laptop model see if others have had your problem04:14
Hilikusapache2, thanks h1st004:14
overcluckermanduski: /join #xubuntu04:14
h1st0manduski: /j #xubuntu04:14
chris__could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?04:14
cypher1furenku, do you find any messages related to the card in dmesg, also is the module for the card is loaded ?04:14
tonyyarussochris__: #ubuntu-effects04:14
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chris__thanks04:14
mneptokchris__: just wait for Gutsy04:14
h1st0furenku: what kind of wireless card do you have?04:14
colin_so any alsa gurus in here?04:14
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h1st0furenku: and did you upgrade your kernel or someting?04:14
rabidsnailHow do I have a command continue running after i've logged off?04:14
manduskithx04:15
chris__whats gutsy ?04:15
mneptokrabidsnail: screen04:15
scguy318!gutsy | chris___04:15
cjae_cause there is notting in the gui to change it04:15
ubotuchris___: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+104:15
h1st0rabidsnail: you could use screen04:15
mneptokchris__: the next release04:15
furenkuh1st0, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG04:15
overcluckerhaha! that is the answer to every problem, latley! WAIT FOR GUTSY!!04:15
h1st0That should not say support only in #ubuntu+104:15
nrdbhow do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.04:15
h1st0Should say bug testing/reporting in #ubuntu+104:15
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mneptokh1st0: until release, yes it should04:15
ubuntulusershttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg04:15
h1st0nrdb: remove its fstab entry04:16
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h1st0!offtopic > ubuntulusers04:16
overcluckerhow to change your icons: wait for gutsy!04:16
h1st0overclucker: or just install a icon package from gnome-look04:16
mneptokubuntulusers: i already told you once about -offtopic. next time is strike 3.04:16
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ubuntuluserswhat's strike 3'?04:17
ubuntulusers:o)04:17
nrdbh1st0: if I remove it, wouldn't I then need to specifiy a full mount command to mount it ?04:17
furenkucypher1, it is not present in dmesg (i think) - how do i know whether the module is loaded04:17
h1st0nrdb: yes04:17
scguy318ubuntulusers: whatever it is, it prob wont be much fun04:17
h1st0nrdb: how else would you mount it.04:17
GamingXHow to take screenshot in ubuntu?04:17
overcluckerh1st0: just remarking on the current fix-all solution (;04:17
ubuntulusersok04:17
h1st0!screencast > GamingX04:17
scguy318GamingX: Print Screen, if ur not in GNOME04:17
ubuntulusersi don't want strike 304:17
ubuntulusers:-(04:17
nrdbh1st0: "mount <mount point>"04:17
attackdecayscreen shot04:17
ubuntulusersi'm sorry04:17
scguy318GamingX: theres a screenshot applet, and there are some packages to let u map screenshot key04:17
attackdecayalt-prnt screen04:17
mneptokubuntulusers: no, you don't.04:18
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mneptoktrust me.04:18
manduskihey guys, i have xubuntu and I have it set up for command line login. Today I downloaded the GNOME desktop environment and I wanted to know if anyone knew how, on command line login, "startx" with GNOME04:18
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h1st0nrdb: sudo mount /dev/blah /mount/point04:18
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cypher1furenku, try lsmod | more and look for something similar to your card04:18
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h1st0manduski: you'd have to change your ~/.xinitrc04:18
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h1st0manduski: or install a manager such as xdm or gdm to switch upon logging in.04:19
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furenkucypher1, nothing there04:19
mneptokmanduski: or use the sessions manager at the login splash04:19
wastrelmanduski: echo exec gnome-session > .xinitrc04:19
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kamerspeoples...sorry but there is nobody on xorg...i will try here anyway04:19
h1dekihi. with apache's mod_dav_svn, does anyone know if it's possible to look up on ldap groups for group authorization in AuthzSVNAccessFile files instead of having have to write out the user names in [group]  clause?04:19
furenkucypher1, or maybe i dont know what to look for04:19
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manduskihlst0: What changes would i have to make to ~/.xinitrc?04:19
kamers(II) SIS(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 90 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 54 kHz, PixClock max 60 MHz04:19
wastrelmneptok: he doesn't have the login splash, not using a display manager04:19
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cypher1furenku, lsmod | grep ipw394504:19
kamersthat is from may xorg.conf.log - the picClock is not ok04:20
h1st0h1deki: /j #apache04:20
kamersi supose i should blame the sis driver...is it right?04:20
furenkucypher1, i found ipw3945 with lsmod | more (i hadn't clicked more)04:20
h1dekih1st0: yeah, i tried, but so far that place and #svn looks pretty silent..04:20
h1st0h1deki: hrm.04:20
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cypher1furenku, can you please paste it at pastebin ?04:21
mneptokfurenku: do you have a physical switch that controls the wireless? if so, ensure it's not off. ;)04:21
h1st0kamers: dunno you could try using the vesa driver and see if you get any difference04:21
manduskithnx guys04:21
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h1st0manduski: just search google for .xinitrc04:21
cypher1furenku, yes as mneptok mentioned that is one of the common things we forgot.. please make sure that it is on04:21
furenkucypher1, the whole output or just the part for ipw04:21
furenkucypher1, mneptok, it is no04:22
furenkucypher1, mneptok, it is on04:22
cypher1furenku, the whole04:22
h1st0manduski: I dont' know the exact line you would need but somethign like "exec gnome"  or exec gnome2  whatever starts gnome04:22
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wastrelexec gnome-session04:22
kamersh1st0: ok tks...ive tryed it already..the same. funny, but there must be another system service that is lieing04:22
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h1st0kamers: What sort of problem are you experiencing because of this?04:23
patrickkkkkkkkkkhey i cant write to an external harddrive, using gusty beta.... heres my fstab http://rafb.net/p/uaMeaC41.html04:23
Ax3hey guys, i've been playing with vnc over ssh for about an hour now, and I can't seem to get my Windows XP machine to connect to a vnc session. any pointers?04:23
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h1st0!gutsy | patrickkkkkkkkkk04:23
ubotupatrickkkkkkkkkk: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+104:23
cruiserpartsi am trying to figure out why my cron job won't work.  Is this the proper place to ask for help or should I use another service?04:23
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h1st0!ask | cruiserparts04:24
ubotucruiserparts: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:24
kamerssince the server "thinks" 60 Hz for Pixclock is maximum, it ignores the mode 1024x768x60 Hz (can use only 87 Hz interlaced...SO ugly)04:24
h1st0Ax3: are you using putty on the windows machine?04:24
h1st0Ax3: or vnc viewer or something?04:24
Ax3I download real vnc viewer from realvnc.com04:24
Ax3downloaded*04:24
h1st0Ax3: what sort of problems are you having?04:25
cjae_ok I see where to change the ripped directory but how do I make it take hold04:25
kamerssee...the mode 1024x768@60Hz uses about 62.x MHz in the PixClock...04:25
overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: i think this is a more general problem, so stay here04:25
furenkucypher1, it is up: http://pastebin.com/d3d04a4f904:25
patrickkkkkkkkkkyeah, i couldnt in feisty either04:25
h1st0kamers: hrm...  I would just be scowering google for pixclock xorg04:25
h1st0patrickkkkkkkkkk: gutsy is in #ubuntu+104:25
Ax3h1st0, well when I try to connect to my ubuntu machine I do, 192.168.1.4:1 and the real vnc viewer client returns an error saying unable to connect04:25
kamersso the mode gets excluded...and that is not right: in that log line, should be about 80 or 100 MHz for max pixclocl04:25
cruiserpartsubotu: first time on irc.  I have a simple script that backs up some directories on my ubuntu server.  when I log in as a user, it runs fine.  but I have set up a cron job as that user and it doesn't ever run.04:25
overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: is it sda1?04:26
h1st0Ax3: can you ssh to the box?04:26
tompouceHi! I just intalled every kde4 packages, now how do I start it?04:26
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Ax3h1st0, yes i can :)04:26
cjae_nevermind got her04:26
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h1st0Ax3: hrm... maybe try a different client04:26
kamerswel...ok..i have already done that...there is just NO docs about the use of the PixClock (just the obvious...)04:26
Ax3h1st0, I also put 5900 and 5901 in my router port forward rules04:26
jribcruiserparts: pastebin the cron line04:27
Ax3that didn't work tho :(04:27
scguy318Ax3: connecting over the INternet?04:27
patrickkkkkkkkkkoverclucker:no its not04:27
scguy318Ax3: if so, 192.168.1.4 is not the correct IP ;)04:27
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overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: which one?04:27
Ax3scguy318, well eventually, I was testing on my LAN first, then I want to get it to work outside my house04:27
scguy318Ax3: if you're connecting from outside, you'll have to supply a fine public IP04:27
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h1st0Ax3: yeah thats the only thing I can think of is that its some sort of port behing blocked but not if you can ssh04:27
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kamersi think its a sis driver bug...but i could not find where to go from here.04:28
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furenkucypher1, i had to exit IRC, did you by chance type something to me?04:28
Ax3scguy318, yea but I hardly think it'll work over the intarweb, if it doesn't work within my house lol04:28
patrickkkkkkkkkkim not sure....sda1 is my windows partition04:28
cypher1furenku, no04:28
cypher1furenku, can you try doing sudo modprobe -r nvidia ?04:29
Ax3h1st0, yea Im really at a loss, i just don't understand how the ssh tunnel works04:29
Ax3the ubuntu documentation is awful04:29
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attackdecayhey what's the deal with beryl and compiz...   compiz fusion..   da da da....  i can't seem to find a definitive/uptodate answer04:29
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vmlinuz`why does Neotun stops the media song whenever i click "Play" it doesnt even play... bug?04:29
JeevesMosshow do you set up vhosts in apache2?04:29
JeevesMosshow do you set up vhosts in apache2?04:29
cypher1furenku, and see whether the wireless network is seen again04:29
furenkucypher1, FATAL: nvidia is in use04:29
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wastrelcruiserparts:  is the PATH different in your user login environment than in the cron environment?  do you have a simple "hello world" type thing running ok under cron?04:29
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scguy318Ax3: you stick in a local tunnel in SSH, then you connect to the local tunnel on your loopback04:29
furenkucypher1, still the same...04:30
mneptokvmlinuz`: please keep your support questions to a single channel. #ubuntu is not the right plage for Kubuntu questions.04:30
kamerswell, in fact, i think that the "DDC" is lieing to the sis driver04:30
scguy318Ax3: so if you're forwarding 127.0.0.1:5900 -> ubuntumachine:5900, then on the VNC client, you would connect to 127.0.0.1:5900, and the SSH client would route it to the SSH server04:30
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vmlinuz`mneptok: i asked about neotun the program, not kubuntu ;/04:30
cruiserpartsubotu.  30 0 * * * /home/user/BackupScripts/nightlyBackup is the output from crontab -l04:30
kamersi could not disable that DDC detection...(already tryed all those keys in the xorg.conf)04:31
cruiserpartsoops.  that is 30 3 * * * ...04:31
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Ax3scguy318, how does the realvnc viewer software know that it's supposed to route to the ssh server04:31
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Ax3scguy318, the two applications seem independent of one another04:32
kamerswell...anyway, this ubuntu is almost "good" i think. not 100% yet, but much better... :(04:32
jribcruiserparts: ubotu is a bot04:32
scguy318Ax3: because the SSH client sets up a listener socket04:32
furenkucypher1, still the same04:32
scguy318Ax3: that does the routing to the SSH server04:32
mneptokvmlinuz`: "Noatun" (note the correct spelling) is an app for KDE. please don't ask about it here.04:32
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cypher1furenku, ok.. i am thinking04:32
tompoucecan you help me?04:32
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Ax3scguy318, hmmm04:32
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zoredacheIs anyone familar with dm-crypt?  What is the effect on the encryted volume, if I do a luksOpen, but then don't do a close?04:33
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LindarOkay, so my disk is being a bastard. I've booted from the Ubuntu CD and now I've got a command prompt up. I need to do the linux equiv. of a chkdisk. The disk is messed up...04:34
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cypher1furenku, i am sorry i think i am out of ideas to debug.. please wait for someone to answer you.. thanks04:34
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zoredacheLindar: the linux equivlanet of chkdsk is 'fsck'04:34
jribcruiserparts: i have to go but try installing 'mutt' and checking your mail from cron04:34
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furenkucypher1, thank you!! really04:35
Ax3scguy318, on the documentation page it suggests: "ssh -fCNT user@192.168.1.25 -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901"04:35
Lindarzoredache: zoh... my... gods... I'm retarded for not remembering that command... Thank you. >_<04:35
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Ax3scguy318, so I setup putty, run that command (replacing the addresses with my unique IPs) and then connect with the realvncviewer app, correct?04:36
smacfarlhey gang when does 7.10 go out of beta?04:36
furenkuThe option "wireless network" has disappeared from network preferences , does anybody know how to open it again?04:36
usr13smacfarl, It's a surprise04:36
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GamingXHow to compile a .txt file containing C code?04:36
smacfarllol. I'm thinking about upgrading just to see if my ATI Radeon 7000 has better driver support.04:37
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wastrelGamingX: install build-essential04:37
usr13smacfarl, Seriously, I don't know for sure but it's pretty close, i'm told.04:37
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smacfarlloverly04:37
crdlbsmacfarl, very doubtful, although you may benefit from general improvements in Xorg04:37
GamingXwastrel: I did that....After that?04:38
crdlbsmacfarl, and it comes out October 19ish04:38
smacfarlwhere can I read about the details of those xorg improvements?04:38
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chrisjs169smacfarl, you might as well just let the update manager (or similar) run overnight - I (and apparently other people on the forums) am getting really slow download speeds - 50KB/s max04:38
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LindarHow do I repair my hdd?04:39
LindarIt's dumb...04:39
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smacfarlwill the update manager automatically migrate me to 7.10?04:39
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usr13fsck -y04:39
h1st0Lindar: fsck04:39
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wastrelGamingX: gcc -o filename filename.c04:39
h1st0Lindar: fsck /hard/drive/location04:40
GamingXwastrel: I'll try that....04:40
chrisjs169smacfarl, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"04:40
h1st0Lindar: ex; fsck /dev/hda  or fsck /dev/sda04:40
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kevinOwhats a good app to rip cd's into iso's?04:40
h1st0kevinO: you don't need any apps to do that.04:40
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kevinOcool how do i do it04:41
GamingXwastrel: I get this gcc: Sqrt.c: No such file or directory....04:41
vmlinuz`does xmms go to system tray?04:41
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wastrelGamingX: is Sqrt.c in your current directory?04:41
h1st0kevinO: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso04:41
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kevinOthats the command vmlinuz` ?04:41
kadalhi all, can anybody help me set a scheduled job using cron / crontab ?04:41
LindarIt keeps saying something about superblock and bad magic number...04:41
smacfarlchrisjs169 so you recommend I update to 7.10 tonight then?04:41
samsmI'm having some trouble mounting a usb hard drive ... and it isn't showing up on the "sudo fdisk -l" list. Any suggestions?04:41
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vmlinuz`kevinO: hehe :)04:42
zoredachedo you see it if you do an lsusb?04:42
h1st0kevinO: use dd like I explained above for making an iso04:42
vmlinuz`kevinO: I was asking myself :)04:42
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chrisjs169smacfarl, you can update any time, but it's probably going to take a few hours to download the packages, regardless of download speed04:42
kadalI made a simple bash script n put it on crontab -e ; but it never run04:42
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h1st0samsm: it should be auto mounted when plugging it in.04:42
kevinOoh sorry vmlinuz04:42
GamingXwastrel : I only have the Sqrt.txt file, how do I get the Sqrt.c file?04:42
h1st0!mount > samsm04:42
chrisjs169smacfarl, from what I've found anyway04:42
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kevinOh1st0:  where does it put the iso?04:43
Juggieanyone know how to stop pcmcia support (yenta) from loading?04:43
h1st0kevinO: in what ever directory you are in when you run the command04:43
samsmh1st0: Would be nice if it did mount, but it didn't. :)04:43
kevinOahh thinks h1st004:43
wastrelGamingX: if sqrt.txt is c code you can just rename the file  or you can use file.txt instead of file.c  gcc shouldn't care04:43
kevinOthanks*04:43
h1st0samsm: did you check dmesg04:43
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h1st0kevinO: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html04:43
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samsmzoredache: lsusb hangs.04:44
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dennebYo04:44
h1st0samsm: plug int he drive and run dmesg04:44
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wastreli take it back, gcc does care04:44
smacfarlchrisjs169 when i did the gksudo update-manager -c -d I got a "warning: could not initiate dbus". What does that mean?04:44
h1st0samsm: before you do you can dmesg -c to clear it first04:44
dennebJe suis nouveau04:44
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h1st0!fr | denneb04:44
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ubotudenneb: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:44
smacfarldenneb bonjour04:45
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dennebje voudrais un petit renseignement04:45
dennebje suis novice sur linux04:45
samsmh1st0: I'll give that a shot, thanks.04:45
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chrisjs169smacfarl, I get that too - don't know what exactly it means (I'm just another user upgrading ;)) but it still upgrades04:45
dennebsmacfarl, ?04:45
smacfarldenneb Allez #ubuntu-fr04:45
dennebok04:45
dennebmerci04:45
smacfarlmy pleasure04:46
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BlackCowhello04:46
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drewzfOkay seriously there's gotta be an easier way to theme Ubuntu04:46
h1st0drewzf: there is04:46
wastreltheme04:46
drewzfWhat is it?!04:46
riotkittietheme ubuntu?  uh.04:46
riotkittietheme what?04:46
riotkittieall of the versions? gnome? xfce? kde?04:46
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drewzfoops04:47
h1st0drewzf: just go to gnome-look.org and just go to System > Preferences > Theme  you can then drag and drop the downloaded theme04:47
drewzfsorry, theme gnome on ubuntu04:47
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wastreldownload & install theme.04:47
h1st0drewzf: its very easy to do.04:47
drewzfI'm using Emerald04:47
drewzfAnd I need a theme for my panels04:47
h1st0drewzf: then download emerald themes04:47
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h1st0drewzf: well those would be configured under System > preferences > Theme04:48
riotkittieuuids make my head spin04:48
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h1st0riotkittie: yeah they are annoying04:48
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drewzfEmerald should theme the panels too04:48
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ubuntulusersSpiderpig...Spiderpig...does whatever a Spiderpig does!04:48
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riotkittiei prefer the archaic /dev/whatever method  :D04:48
kevinGhey, does anyone know where I can set what sound card loads first?04:48
BlackCowso im trying to set up a home server with ubuntu but im just curious, as long as I have ports forwarded to that computer only (behind a router) its not going to put other computers on my network at risk right?04:48
kevinGi'm not sure what directory that file is in04:48
drewzfAND there is no 'Theme' under System > Preferences04:49
h1st0BlackCow: at risk from what?04:49
riotkittiedrewzf: what version of ubuntu?04:49
BlackCowlike from attacks04:49
BlackCowlatest04:49
h1st0drewzf: what version of ubuntu areyou using?04:49
riotkittie6.06, 7.04, 6.10?04:49
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drewzfGutsy Gibbon :)04:49
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BlackCowoh sorry, 7.04 server edition i think04:49
h1st0drewzf: ahh its in System > Preferences > Appearance04:49
riotkittiewell, in that case, its in pref > appearance04:50
h1st0drewzf: and gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 channel please04:50
riotkittieh1st0 has speedy fingers of doom =|04:50
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drewzfh1st0, don't be ridiculous that question had nothing to do with Gutsy and there's not half the people there04:50
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patrickkkkkkkkkkim trying to change the pemissions on my external hd http://pastebin.com/m289956 my fstab04:50
riotkittieyou're using gutsy. therefore, it had everything to do with gutsy.04:50
patrickkkkkkkkkkin /media the hd comes up as04:50
BlackCowi meen i know the server could be at risk (i dont care that much) im just wondering if someone who knew what they were doing could use that server to attack other computers on the network04:50
h1st0drewzf: yes there are plenty of people there and it did have to do with gutsy04:51
patrickkkkkkkkkkdisk04:51
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h1st0drewzf: since System > Preferences > Appearance is a lot different than System > Preferences > Theme04:51
h1st0!mount > patrickkkkkkkkkk04:51
BlackCowi dont know a lot about networks and servers, thats why I am doing this partly to learn04:51
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drewzfh1st0, No it didn't. You're the one that gave me the path to it ;)04:52
h1st0BlackCow: Are you worried about security ont he work stations or the server?04:52
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h1st0omfg i give04:52
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BlackCowerm, work stations being other computers on the same local network as the server then yes04:52
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kevinGdoes anyone know how to get the right soundcard to load? as it stands, ubuntu seems to load a random one up at startup04:52
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defconquick Q: my X login window, when I login is a resolution too BIG, how to adjust it04:52
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h1st0BlackCow: well open ports ont eh server woulodn't effeect the workstations security vulnerabilities.04:53
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h1st0BlackCow: is the server availible from the outside world?04:53
BlackCowyes04:53
drewzfhmm? What did ubuntulusers do?04:53
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cruiserpartssetting up a crontab to run echo "hello world" every minute does not run under cron either. but it does run manually as a script.04:53
MrKeunerhi, 7.04 live cd does not start on acer aspire 9504 laptop04:53
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BlackCowMrKeuner, make sure you have boot from CD set up in the bios04:54
wastrelcruiserparts: are you echoing hello world to a file?04:54
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MrKeunerBlackCow: it boots from the cd but x dies complaining no screens04:54
riotkittieMrKeuner: can you elaborate on "doesnt start" ... does it boot at all?04:54
riotkittieok never mind.04:54
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mustuHello! is there any specific channel for Ubunto l10n?04:55
riotkittiewhat the hay's ubunto l10n?04:55
Absolute0is there a way i can download pkgs faster with apt-get?04:55
wastrellocalization04:55
mustuUbunto Localization04:55
Absolute0any faster repositories?04:55
riotkittieah.04:55
BlackCowso other computers on my network should be fine if I run a server (accessable from the outside world)04:55
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mustuis there any?04:56
h1st0BlackCow: yes04:56
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h1st0MrKeuner: try safe graphics mode04:57
cruiserpartsyes. i am echoing to the file helloworldreport.  the only time hellow world shows up is when i manually start the script.04:57
h1st0!security > BlackCow04:57
h1st0BlackCow: read the message from ubotu04:57
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MrKeunerh1st0: how's that possible? in grub?04:57
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h1st0MrKeuner: its on the mian menu of the livecd04:58
BlackCowalright, thanks for your help, hopefully i can get things running being a server newbie04:58
h1st0MrKeuner: its on of the options04:58
chrisjs169smacfarl, ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu is a decent mirror - seems to be full speed for me.  it should be in System | Administration | Software Sources04:58
h1st0BlackCow: A good resource for you will be help.ubuntu.com and www.ubuntuguide.org04:59
chrisjs169smacfarl, I take that back - it was doing good for a whole 10 seconds04:59
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h1st0BlackCow: check those out for most your questions.  Just stay away from scripts such as automatix or envy they can really bork your system up.04:59
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BlackCowok04:59
dublpawsipython is crashing sometimes trying to tab-complete. Does anyone know a fix?05:00
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BlackCowalso, what do you guys think of using something with a user interface to run a server on? Would I be best off not doing that and learning to use commands only?05:01
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drewzfSo what is responsible for theming gnome panels? GTK? Metacity?05:02
wastreli thought ubuntuguide was considered harmful05:02
cruiserpartshold on.  let me see.  more info...  when i start the script by clicking on the text file script hello world runs, but when i open a terminal and type the path to that same script file, it does not run.05:02
fungos__what is the java6 plugin for firefox  package? I cant find it05:02
h1st0BlackCow: you would learn the most doing it from cli05:02
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DoYouKnowBlackCow, interesting. are you aware of any gui wrappers for servers?05:02
northerwwow05:02
h1st0BlackCow: but you could install any desktop environment.  Most of your stuff is goign to be done through terminal though anyway05:02
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h1st0BlackCow: you could also administer the server via a webpage if you have apache installed with webmin or something like that.  There are all sorts of options.05:03
eggdhello, im trying to download http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key05:03
BlackCowerm, i dunno, i heard you could use gentoo to run a server *shrugs*05:03
eggdis anyone able to?05:03
BlackCowi meen you can run a server on anything right05:03
h1st0eggd: automatix is not supported here and shouldnt' be used05:03
h1st0BlackCow: yeap pretty much.05:03
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BlackCoweven windows vista if you wanted to *chuckles*05:03
GNinesynaptic works just fine for software lookup/nstallation/uninstallation needs05:03
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h1st0BlackCow: most servers are command line based in linux though.05:03
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BlackCowso yeah, i dunno, ill stick with the comand line, its the proper way05:04
eggdh1st0:  why now?05:04
h1st0BlackCow: but that doesn't stop you from installing gnome on the server if you really wanted to.05:04
eggdh1st0: why not?05:04
h1st0eggd: cuz it can really break your system.05:04
fungos__how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ???05:04
h1st0!automatix | eggd05:04
ubotueggd: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:04
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chrisjs169eggd, --- getautomatix.com ping statistics ---3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms05:04
MrKeunerh1st0: it does not start in safe graphics mode either..05:04
BlackCowhm, never thought of installing gnome, may take up some uncecessay processing power and RAM05:04
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MrKeunerh1st0: no screens found05:05
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MrKeunerh1st0: found but no usable config05:05
h1st0MrKeuner: hrm... you may want to search the forums for your model notebook ubuntuforums.org05:05
h1st0MrKeuner: You might have to specify some option like noacpi or noapic to get it going.05:05
furenku__cypher1, the problem was i hadn't installed linux-restricted-modules05:05
danohey all, i just downloaded a program called wipe.  Is there a way to incorporate it into nautilus so i can "wipe" a file instead of delete it the normal way?05:06
h1st0dano: maybe ask the programs creator05:06
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Flanneldano: shred is already available as well.05:06
danoh1st0, i thought there may be some sort of gconf editor05:06
h1st0dano: there is gconf-editor05:07
northeri cant get steam to work:( anyone able to help im using wine but obviously doing something wrong05:07
samsmh1st0: Thanks for your help earlier, turned out this was a turn it on-and-off-again thing.05:07
danoFlannel, I have shred, and i don't see that option in nautilus, any ideas?05:07
Flanneldano: you could probably create a nautilus extension easily enough.  right click > wipe.  If you look at some of the other ones out there, it shouldn't be hard to modify it05:07
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GNineare you that paranoid05:07
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the_giverany reason not to use ubuntu as a webserver?05:07
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GNinethere is no need for such a program on linux.05:08
Flanneldano: There are some nauilus extensions in the forums, and some in the repositories as well (usually package name is 'nautilus-[something')05:08
fungos__how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ??? anybody!!?05:08
usr13the_giver, NO, works fine.05:08
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Flannelfungos__: dpkg -S libjavaplugin.so05:08
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GNinethere is a server edition , the_giver05:08
Flannelthe_giver: No reason not to.  No.05:08
usr13apt-get install apache and away u go.05:08
jason_is it unusual of the nearsighted people here to have to read within 2ft distance?  kinda wondering lately about the effects of computer monitors from a few hours each day.. :|05:08
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GNinecurrent monitor/CRt techNologies are very easy on the eyes.  i wouldnt worry about that05:09
northernightsighted people?05:09
the_giverGNine,  really.. hmm cool thanks05:09
GNineaside that, do take a break to check if the outside world is still out there , would ya05:10
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usr13Someone's accusing us of being nearsighted people?!?!05:10
northeractually crt monitors aren't good at all, lcd+ is good though05:10
riotkittiejason_: depends on the severity of the nearsightedness...05:10
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usr13depends on the severity of the people!  :)05:10
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jason_riotkittie, is that severity very uncommon you think?  2ft max for focal point.05:11
LindarOkay, so my hard drive is corrupt. It says that there's a bad superblock. What's the command I have to run to repair it? I have a lot of junk installed just to get my wifi card to work, and I don't want to have to reinstall it.05:11
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usr13fsdk -y05:11
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riotkittieoutside...? world?  what is this madness, GNine :o05:12
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h1st0Lindar: read what usr13 said05:12
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Lindarfsck -y doesn't do anything05:12
Sonicadvance1Hello. I'm wondering. in my timidity.cfg file. I have a bunch of settings I can uncomment to make it use less CPU power. I have a SF2 file already that I'm using so no one suggest getting a better SF2 file. but I'm wondering if there are any settings I can set in the timidity.cfg file to make the music sound better?05:12
usr13Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda05:12
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usr13or fsck -y /dev/hdb    whatever...05:12
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GNineriotkittie, i hope you have also been in touch with your inner world as well..05:13
usr13or fsck -y /dev/hdb1 or 2 etc.    whatever...05:13
h1st0Lindar: the -y option tells it to fix the errors05:13
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Lindarthe superblock could not be read blah blah blah....05:13
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dnwhat's the support channel that's for gutsy?05:13
Flanneldn: #ubuntu+105:13
GNine!gutsy05:13
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+105:13
usr13Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda2  or... whatever...05:13
dnthanks Flannel05:13
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LindarHow do I find out which one is my primary drive?05:14
Lindarhda1 is my backup drive...05:14
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usr13Lindar, How do you know you have a bad spot, (and don't know which partition it it?)05:14
nrdbI have created a unionfs in initrd of the from the what was the root and another rw partition.  I have checked the unionfs and it appears ok.  The problem is that when I boot it seems to get stuck in a loop using 100% CPU and never actually boots, any ideas on how to find out what the problem is ?05:14
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yurimxpxmanwhat does alt+print scrn+l do?05:15
LindarI can't boot. grub gives either error 24 or 25.05:15
usr13Lindar:  don't know which partition it is?05:15
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LindarI just can't boot into my primary drive. GRUB screws up....05:15
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h1st0Lindar: well the bad superblock may be part of the issue05:15
h1st0Lindar: fdisk -l will list your drives05:15
GNineLindar, have you looked in your device manager lately05:16
usr13Lindar, Just all partitions that you suspect have problems.05:16
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usr13Lindar, Wait, is grub broken?  Or do you have a bad HD?05:17
LindarDunno...05:17
LindarGrub loading.... Error 24 (or 25).05:17
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GNineLindar, has a one multi-angle question going on05:17
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vinboyhi05:18
usr13Lindar, So, when did you start having this problem?05:18
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vinboyanyone know how to make D4X show KB/s   or Mb/s instead of just B/s ?05:18
LindarIt's been happening, it's just that it goes away after a few reboots.05:18
Juggieanyone know why ndiswrapper loads as wlan0 and then switches to eth1?05:18
usr13Lindar, Is there a particular event that happened that you might suspect as having an effect on the drive or boot loader?05:18
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usr13Lindar, What drive do you have Linux on?05:19
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GNinei hope Lindar has a live cd handy05:19
usr13Lindar, hda hdb hdc  sda sdb sdc etc?05:19
northerOmg05:20
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LindarI don't know...05:20
usr13Lindar,  You don't know?05:20
usr13Lindar, Boot to a live CD and look and see.05:21
h1st0Lindar: look at the output of fdisk -l05:21
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silenthey guys, how do I make ssh fully transparent? my modifiers aren't going through properly. (ctrl+s wont register)05:21
usr13Lindar, Boot a live CD and  do as hlst0 says:  fdisk -l05:21
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unicode!opera05:22
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:22
GNinecheck all firewall05:22
GNine(s)05:22
Lindarfdisk -l doesn't do anything05:23
northerI am having troubles with installing my video drivers. i have an nvidia geforce 6600, i went to the nvidia website and downloaded the linux version and i ended up getting a .RUN file... but the system keeps saying it doesnt recognize .RUN files... can anyone help?05:23
silentsudo fdisk -l newbie05:23
usr13Lindar, sudo fdisk -l05:23
Lindarsilent: sorry, asshole05:23
silent<305:23
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h1st0norther: just use the restricted drivers manager to install them.05:24
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kevinO!ohmy | Lindar05:24
ubotuLindar: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:24
kevinOlol, ive always wanted to do that05:24
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h1st0norther: System > Adminsitration > Restricted Drivers05:24
silentI forgot to05:24
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Lindarhdb1 is the swap, hdb2 is the linux drive.05:24
usr13Lindar, How many hard drives do you have in this PC?05:24
Lindar205:24
h1st0Lindar: fsck -y /dev/hdb05:24
Lindarone is ntfs backup05:25
usr13Lindar,  fsck -y /dev/hda205:25
unicode!cedega05:25
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:25
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silentsudo rm -r /* ?05:25
h1st0!ops05:25
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GNinentfs backup.. you better forget about that one to fix you LINUX issue05:25
open-gl!ops05:25
Amaranthopen-gl: ...05:25
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open-gl???05:26
northerhlts0 it says nvidia accelerated graphics driver is in use. but it just doesnt seem like it05:26
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Amaranthopen-gl: Why did you call for ops?05:26
northerhlst0 everything is still choppy05:26
h1st0norther: well youc an glxinfo | grep render to see if it is05:26
LindarIt still says it can't read the superblock...05:26
open-gli didnt05:26
naliothAmaranth: language05:26
LindarSo it wont repair it...05:26
kevinOuhh05:26
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h1st0norther: to use the driver from nvidia.com you'd have to sudo sh NVIDIABLALblahblah.run05:27
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open-gljust by typing it doesnt mean you will get it05:27
Amaranthopen-gl: it goes, actually05:27
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usr13Lindar, so you did fdisk -l /dev/hda2   and it was unable to fix it?05:27
northerhlst0, ah ty ill try that05:27
silentLindar, what are you trying to do? maybe I can help05:27
usr13Lindar, Then, you will need to discard the drive and get a good one, and start over.05:27
open-gli dont see any op for me then05:28
open-glso it doesnt work05:28
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h1st0Amaranth: I did for silent05:28
Amaranthopen-gl: I'm here05:28
usr13Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb205:28
northerhlst0 it says it is unable to run it.05:28
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open-gli know your here but no op05:29
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open-glit's just a command given to some people maybe05:29
kevinOAmaranth, h1sto called ops for silent, open-gl was just plyin i think05:29
GNineyou got 2 hdd's, two OS (on the same puter) and you have no clue whats going on.. you cant even name your drives.. hopeless05:29
Lindarfdisk -l brings up the partition table for that drive.05:29
Lindarfsck -y doesn't do anything.05:29
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usr13Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb205:29
logreevalIs there a seperate gaming IRC Channel for ubuntu?05:29
Amaranthopen-gl: Don't be so sure :)05:29
usr13Lindar,  Did you do:    sudo  fsck -y /dev/hdb205:29
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Lindaroui05:30
LindarI will try once again.05:30
Amaranthopen-gl: It doesn't give you operator powers, it calls for the operators05:30
silentthe ops are fast I'm surprised. good work guys05:30
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LindarThe superblock cannot be read or does not describe something something blah blah blah....05:30
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silento_O05:31
usr13Lindar, Then you will need another HD.05:31
AmaranthGNine: TMI05:31
Amaranthusr13: No, just a dead superblock05:31
open-glwell then i didnt know a command like that can op someone05:31
silentLindar, you can put your console output in a pastebin for easy access for people helping05:31
Amaranthusr13: there are backups you can point it to but i don't remember how to find what they are05:31
silentsuch as pastebin.ca05:31
GNineAmaranth, am not too good at shorthand05:31
open-glbut you dont see me with it05:31
LindarI'm not on the same computer.05:31
LindarI'm on one comp and running to the broken one to run the commands.05:32
AmaranthGNine: Too Much Information, we didn't need to know that05:32
silentssh in05:32
logreevalI am looking for a game similar to Halo that is linux native and has a store, aka doesn't have to be networked and played online...anyone know any games liket hat?05:32
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open-glso is everything fine then05:32
usr13Amaranth, Yes, that is right.  That could mean that the partition table is corrupt.05:32
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etzerdHello all05:32
usr13Amaranth, You might try recovering the partition table05:32
silentLindar, if you're on windows run putty to ssh in or if you're on linux type ssh -l <login name> <ip> to ssh to the broken computer05:32
GNineoh well.. maybe Lindar only needs to catch a break.  it helps clear the mind , yknow?05:32
Amaranthusr13: Bad shutdown or something could have done it05:32
usr13Lindar, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:32
LindarThe broken machine can't be networked right now.05:33
etzerdI just install ubuntu 7.10 Beta in my system, and now I don't have the boot manager where I can select the operating system that I wont05:33
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silentLindar, what is broken about it?05:33
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LindarI can't boot. GRUB gives error 24 or 25.05:33
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imyuthi05:33
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etzerdwhen ubuntu boot it give me a grub loader but both options are for ubuntu not the other operating system that on the system05:33
silentare you running livecd or somthing?05:34
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usr13Lindar, Don't need the network.  DO:    sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:34
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Amaranthusr13: hdb won't have a superblock05:34
kduboisis there any way to force a wireless card to join a network? i have two networks in range, and it won't join the other one....05:34
AmaranthLindar: what partition is it? first one on the second drive?05:34
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silentkdubois, you can join any available network that is supported by your hardware05:34
GNinecheck your firewalls05:34
silentkdubois, so long as you have proper access05:34
usr13Amaranth, But I want to see what error he might get if he does   fdisk /dev/hdb05:34
usr13Lindar,   What does     fdisk -l /dev/hdb     say05:35
Amaranthusr13: right but running fsck on hdb would obviously tell you there is no superblock05:35
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GNineand, there is no "forcing" involved in that.. once the network is detected proper permissions need to be set05:35
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h1st0Amaranth: its on hdb2 according to him.05:35
AmaranthLindar: sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb205:36
usr13Amaranth, Yes, I would imagine so, (if in fact, the partition table is corrupted)05:36
AmaranthLindar: that'll use one of the backup superblocks so it can read the partition correctly05:36
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kduboissilent: i do have access to both, but it always connects to the AP with internet, when I want it to connect to the other one05:36
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LindarThe partition is /dev/hdb205:36
Amaranthusr13: My partition table is fine but running fsck on the drive itself will give that error because it's running on the drive instead of the partition05:36
Lindarthat's the linux part05:36
Lindarhdb1 is the swap05:36
AmaranthLindar: run the command i gave05:36
silentkdubios, sudo iwconfig <wlan0?> essid <network name>05:37
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silentor choose it in network settings under network properties05:37
GNinesystem > network  and  network tools   should be able to help05:37
LindarAmaranth: It didn't work.05:37
AmaranthLindar: What did it say?05:38
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LindarSame thing it's been saying.05:38
puffI have too many files in a directory, the "ls" command results in:  bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long05:38
PepperrrHow can I get a list of installed packages via apt-get?05:38
silentLindar, is hdb messed up?05:38
puffI tried piping it through xargs, but that didn't work.05:38
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Pepperrr*packages installed with apt-get05:38
AmaranthPepperrr: dpkg --get-selections05:38
usr13 Lindar:  Did you do:      sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb2     ?05:38
LindarI'm on the live CD right now. It just keeps saying it can't read superblock or something...05:38
AmaranthPepperrr: that'll give you the status of every package to ever touch your system05:39
LindarI did exactly this:   sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb205:39
lumpycam puff - try ls /path |grep wc -l05:39
PepperrrAmaranth: What about ones installed after I installed Ubuntu?05:39
AmaranthLindar: ok, listen to usr13 then :)05:39
AmaranthPepperrr: them too05:39
AmaranthLindar: if it can't even read the backup superblock you have something bigger wrong05:40
elpIt seems like my system doesn't have any OpenGL libraries which i need to install a game =[05:40
silentLindar, did this drive just recently become corrupted or is this a new drive or a new install on an old drive?05:40
PepperrrAmaranth: No, I mean just ones I've apt-getted after Ubuntu was installed, so I could easy re-download them after a fresh install?05:40
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usr13Lindar,   What does    sudo fdisk -l     say about hdb?  ANything?05:40
LindarIt's an old drive and it's been corrupted before. Is there absolutely any way to recover it?05:40
Lindarhdb has 3 bits to it...05:41
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AmaranthPepperrr: It'll just show all packages05:41
kelvieIs there a way to tell apt-get to install deps only?05:41
kelvieand not the actual package?05:41
AmaranthLindar: The only way I know of to recover data from a dead HD is to send it somewhere05:41
AmaranthLindar: Very expensive05:41
Lindar1 is swap, 2 is linux, 3 is some sort of NTFS thing....05:41
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ScuniziAmaranth, What would you use to find only the programs that the user has installed.. not the entire system?05:41
usr13Lindar,   "hdb has 3 bits to it"?05:42
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t3318anyone know how to change the default desktop themes for new user in Ubuntu?05:42
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ezzieyguywufsystem>preferences>themes05:43
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t3318oh05:43
ezzieyguywufdoes anyone here know what a safe operating temp for a lenovo t60p is?05:43
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AmaranthScunizi: No need, you can just save the output of --get-selections, feed it to the new computer with --set-selections, then run apt-get dselect-upgrade and it'll install all the stuff from that list that isn't already installed05:43
Lindarusr13: assume I have a vagina....05:43
t3318i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme05:43
ezzieyguywufmine usually runs aroun 150 degress F  on feisty with compiz running.....05:43
AmaranthLindar: What does that have to do with anything?05:44
t3318ezzieyguywuf: i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme05:44
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ScuniziAmaranth, the problem being some of the programs aren't installed via apt..05:44
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usr13Lindar,   The drive has 3 partitions - right?   hda1 hda2 and hda305:44
AmaranthScunizi: In that case you just have to know05:44
usr13Lindar, Sounds like a lost cause.05:44
LindarAmaranth: I'm dumb and female. I know nothing about this stuff, I just wanted to try it out so I know how it works.05:44
ScuniziAmaranth, :)05:44
ezzieyguywuft3318: i only have one user on my comp, but i imagine that each user (with sufficient priveleges) could set their own themes05:44
Amarantht3318: you can use /etc/skel05:44
Lindarusr13: Yes.05:44
bruenigScunizi, if you circumvent package management, you can't expect that it will work05:45
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tonyyarussoLindar: gender is irrelevent05:45
Amarantht3318: if you put your .gconf in there all new users will get your .gconf so all your settings05:45
usr13Lindar,   If you cannot do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb       I'd just toss it.05:45
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t3318Amaranth: oh05:45
t3318Amaranth: I will try it :)05:45
Lindarusr13: I can. It tells me that there are three partitions on that hard drive.05:45
Scunizibruenig, true.. however Mapivi is a pretty good program despite a slightly klunky feel.05:45
crush_groovehello room05:45
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ezzieyguywufanyone got any idea on what a safe operating temp is? my lenovo t60p on avg runs at about 150 degrees F05:45
robert_is there a proxy application I can use that logs the traffic which passes through it?05:45
bruenigScunizi, well don't really understand what your point is there05:45
Amarantht3318: I would create a new user, change the theme, then put it's ~/.gconf in /etc/skel05:45
t3318Amaranth: But currently, Ubuntu doesn't have .gconf in skel05:45
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crush_grooveI was getting a bad device error in my shell when I tryed to use any kind of app from the shell .. so I googled the prob and found from an ubuntu forum I needed to edit my xorg.conf. file /../ so I did05:46
Amarantht3318: you put it there05:46
crush_grooveI then restarted xwin with ctrl alt bckspce\05:46
t3318Amaranth: How can Ubuntu define the default theme?05:46
thedonvaughnezzieyguywuf, I'm sure google knows05:46
h1st0Amaranth: what is skel for?05:46
ezzieyguywufi've tried looking05:46
Amarantht3318: The default gconf schema05:46
crush_groovend it shut everythingdown . when I reboot it trys to load ... then goes to a blinking curor .. I cntrl alt f1 .. and get into the shell and replace the file I altered with the backup .. and it still wont boot05:46
ezzieyguywufi keep getting user manuals and whatnot05:46
h1st0Amaranth: skeleton for new users or something?05:46
Lindarezzieyguywuf: I don't know what that is, but a safe core temp is 35-45c. Anything higher and it may be close to damaging it. 55-60c is cutting it close.05:46
crush_grooveso I go back in and do a .. /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it shows the kdm starting yet when I reboot .,.,nuthin05:46
t3318Amaranth: ah ha05:46
Amarantht3318: anything in /etc/skel gets put into a new user's home dir when you create it05:46
Scunizibruenig, asked and answered.. dpkg will only report what has been installed via apt.  anything outside of that "you just have to know" what it is, make a list and reinstall with a new system.05:46
Amarantht3318: it == the user05:47
h1st0Amaranth: nvm cool very nice05:47
t3318Amaranth: yeh, i try it now05:47
usr13Lindar,   If you cam do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb         You might just start over, re-partition it and see if it is usable.05:47
LindarI don't want to reinstall all of that junk, though. ;-;05:47
h1st0Lindar: is yoru /home directory on a seperate partition?05:47
GNineall your system and settings needs can be researched by .. hmm.. system >   and    settings >  menu .. system05:47
Amaranthoh, h1st0 was asking that question, not t331805:47
Amaranthoops05:47
LindarI went through so much trouble getting the netgear wifi thing working...05:47
ezzieyguywufthe one website i found says max operating temp at 35 C and i'm at 61C. thats well over twice!!!!05:47
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LindarNo, /home/ is on the linux part... hdb205:47
AmaranthScunizi: that's why you should use the package manager for everything :)05:47
ezzieyguywufso i don't know if i need to be worried....05:47
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h1st0Lindar: SO i left fsck was unable to fix /dev/hdb2?05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: No computer part has a max temp of 35 C05:48
usr13Lindar, Then put another drive in, install and recover what you cann of the old one.05:48
tonyyarussoezzieyguywuf: what processor?  (35 C is clearly wrong)05:48
Lindarh1st0: yes05:48
ezzieyguywuf*sigh of relief*05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: my CPU's max temp is 100 C and my GPU's max temp is 110 C05:48
ezzieyguywufoh! thats environmental temp05:48
ezzieyguywufhehehehe05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: you're fine :)05:48
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niloc#vague05:48
usr13Lindar, Not sure what to tell you, really.05:48
ezzieyguywufamaranth: thanks, you've put me at ease05:48
nilochelp05:49
ScuniziAmaranth, I do. but mapivi is one of the exceptions.  It's the only program that will imbed exif and other info into jpg's05:49
Lindarblar05:49
GNinelol05:49
LindarI'll just deal with it, I guess.05:49
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GNine110C temp.. ok..05:49
ezzieyguywufthanks guys :-D05:49
LindarAmaranth: My mobo maxes at 40-43c, my cpu runs at about 50c.05:49
Lindaranyway... time to reformat my crappy hdd... yaaay lost data!05:50
AmaranthLindar: Right but that's idle/running temp, not max temp05:50
AmaranthLindar: I would not keep using that HD05:50
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ScuniziAmaranth, also ipsc info.. without using an external database or some type of internal database05:50
AmaranthGNine: Why would I do that?05:50
ezzieyguywufi'm using the system temp checker and theres one for thmo and one for thm1. they're both the same it looks like, but thmo has an * next to it. anyone know what this is about?05:50
GNineto buy a better cooling system for your rig05:51
usr13Amaranth is right.  If it's giving you that much trouble, you should recover what you want off it and move on.05:51
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AmaranthGNine: I said max temp05:51
ezzieyguywufalso, in preferences it asks me which zone to monitor and offers "ACPI" and "IBM ACPI". i'm running a t60p with core duo and an ATI mobility card so i don't know what that ACPI is05:51
AmaranthGNine: Not the max I get to, the max the thing can withstand. Although I have a laptop so I can't add more cooling :)05:51
GNinegodspeed bro05:52
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AmaranthGNine: I actually idle with the CPU at 48C and the GPU at 42C05:52
GNinethat is alright05:52
robert_is there a proxy application I can use/install that logs the traffic which passes through it?05:52
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GNinestill too hot.. then again that IS a laptop05:52
robert_e.g. I want the contents of what passes through the proxy05:52
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HealthyElijahAmaranth: u using the latest gutsy release?05:53
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Up to date as of 30 minutes ago :)05:54
HealthyElijahk05:54
dotjayi have just got ubuntu 7.04 and wheneer i try to install it from the CD after the installation start i get an error message after the splash screen "/bin/sh:can't access tty job contribute off"05:54
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HealthyElijahit said in the improv list that it would help reduce burning lap syndrome ;)05:54
ezzieyguywufamaranth: how do you monitor CPU and GPU temps separately. and what is GPU :P05:54
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AmaranthHealthyElijah: hehe, my laptop is doomed anyway05:54
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HealthyElijahgraphics05:54
ezzieyguywufhaha healthy05:55
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ezzieyguywufoh ok05:55
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ezzieyguywufwhat do you use to monitor them separate?05:55
AmaranthHealthyElijah: it certainly runs cooler thanks to dyntick and making apps go to sleep when they aren't doing stuff but my laptop has thermal issues05:55
chris__whats the channel for compiz etc desktop effects?05:55
AmaranthHealthyElijah: was the first Core Duo laptop HP sold05:55
dotjaywhat is the problem is there any problem with my system or is that the problem with the CD05:55
Amaranthchris__: #ubuntu-effects05:55
HealthyElijahis your fan workin' :)05:55
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Curs0rgnome is taking a long time to start up, when it does there is an error about the settings daemon even though I launched the daemon so I know it's running05:56
h1st0dotjay: Check the cd for dfects05:56
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: I have nvidia so I use nvidia-settings to monitor my GPU temp05:56
h1st0dotjay: err /s/dfects/defects05:56
ezzieyguywufamaranth: your talkin about gutsy? it has better temp control (via app-sleep or w/e?)05:56
ezzieyguywufoh i see05:56
ezzieyguywufi have ATI so i don't know if i have that option05:56
ezzieyguywufi'm running fglrx05:56
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HealthyElijahset it on top off a bowl of ice ;)05:56
phoo_cypher1, im furenku - i fixed the wifi issue - im now using it05:56
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HealthyElijaha big mixing bowl05:56
AmaranthHealthyElijah: It runs but it just runs warm05:57
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dotjaybut when i start that option i get stuck i tried changing the CD it says the same thing05:57
HealthyElijahand then just tape it to it and carry that around wherever you go05:57
AmaranthNo worries, going to toss it soon05:57
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AmaranthLiterally, I have a good warranty ;)05:57
HealthyElijahcarry a cooler with you with extra ice05:57
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dotjaythe problem is not with the cd05:57
Amaranthdotjay: Ah, I've seen this problem05:57
GNinei've seen cool designes for external laptop cooling devices05:58
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GNine*designs05:58
dotjayAmarnath: so how can i fix this problem?05:58
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HealthyElijahthis channel has almost twice as many as teh linux channel05:58
ScuniziCurs0r, at the end of your "kernal" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst insert "irqpoll". that might fix it.05:58
Amaranthdotjay: Try the Ubuntu 7.10 Beta cd instead, looks like that's a hardware support issue05:58
ezzieyguywufoh, this might be off topic, but i'm looking for some .wav files for alerts (like in thunderbird and whatnot) to replace the system beeps05:59
HealthyElijahdotjay: I second Amaranth05:59
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ezzieyguywufis there anywhere i can get a package or something?05:59
dotjaysure05:59
dotjaybut how could that be i have i845G gigabyte05:59
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Amaranthdotjay: Intel motherboard with a jmicron sata controller05:59
HealthyElijahyou mean iram?06:00
dotjaywith 512 MB RAM 40 GB samsung06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Is it a newer motherboard06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Newer meaning less than a year old06:00
dotjaybbut that has supported 6.06 and previous versions06:00
ezzieyguywufamaranth: you recomend gutsy or wait for official release?06:00
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Amaranthdotjay: Odd06:00
piripakhi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?06:00
HealthyElijahgutsy is darn near official06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Either way, try the 7.10 beta06:01
ezzieyguywufyea?06:01
ezzieyguywufi mean, my main concern is fglrx06:01
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Amaranthdotjay: Your bug is never going to be fixed with 7.04 but there is still a chance with 7.10 (it isn't final yet)06:01
HealthyElijahdont think they are gonna make any major changes when just weeks away06:01
ezzieyguywufit was such a pain getting it configed06:01
ezzieyguywufand workin with 3d and compiz06:01
AmaranthHealthyElijah: We are tweaking stuff a lot06:01
dotjayAmarnath but I bought this PC 2 yrs back06:01
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ezzieyguywufis there a website i can visit to see what changes were made from feisty?06:01
HealthyElijahnice06:01
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Just yesterday I made 4 changes to the way compiz works06:01
HealthyElijahyou a programmer Cool!06:02
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Amaranthdotjay: It's a regression then, either way try 7.1006:02
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eggdwhat codecs should i install?06:02
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HealthyElijahI hope to be able to contirbute to this project someday06:02
eggdfor common mp3, avi, dvd usage06:02
Amarantheggd: If you're using 7.04 it will install them as needed06:02
Amarantheggd: Except for the dvd one, that you have to do manually06:03
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HealthyElijahAmaranth: How long have you been involved06:03
g3r4kvnhello!06:03
g3r4kvnn00b here06:03
ezzieyguywufhey me too!06:03
g3r4kvn: )06:03
ezzieyguywufbeen usin feisty since saturday :-D06:03
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ezzieyguywufi'm really likin so far, how bout you g3?06:03
novato_brdudes, i download the gusty's iso, how can i update my feisty fawn to gusty ?06:03
g3r4kvni just finished installing : )06:03
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Been using Ubuntu since the first release, contributing since early 200506:04
ezzieyguywufsudo apt-get upgrade06:04
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ezzieyguywufi don't think oyu need the iso, can anyone confirm that?06:04
g3r4kvni tried SUSE and KNOPPIX before, now im with... Gudalinex :P06:04
Flannelezzieyguywuf: correct.  You don't need the CD/iso to upgrade.06:04
ezzieyguywufg3: what machine are you running it on06:04
g3r4kvnbut i have serious issues with my sound card ;_;06:04
ezzieyguywufgudalinex? haven't heard of it06:04
g3r4kvnim on a Acer Aspire06:04
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ezzieyguywufi see06:04
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novato_brbut sudo apt-get upgrade, is it install updates from net?06:04
g3r4kvnguadalinex is a local from spain...06:05
HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: g3r4kvn: Me too06:05
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novato_bri want to update with iso !06:05
ezzieyguywufi been thinkin about giving linux mint a walk around the park06:05
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Amaranthnovato_br: sudo update-manager -d06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: Oh, you _want_ to use the ISO06:05
HealthyElijahAmaranth: Is an update recommended or clean install06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: In that case you need to burn it06:05
novato_bryep, Amaranth06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: Or mount it but that's a little trickier06:05
novato_brdoesnt has other way?06:05
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riotkittiehow bizzarre06:06
Amaranthnovato_br: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the.iso /media/cdrom06:06
HealthyElijahBeen using Fiesty since 1 month ago06:06
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piripak hi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?06:06
g3r4kvnanyone from spain or latinamerica or wishing to help me with my sound card issues?06:06
HealthyElijahStill have no clue of big picture06:06
Amaranthnovato_br: Hopefully it'll pop up automatically and ask if you want to upgrade06:06
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novato_brthx, Amaranth06:06
Amaranthpiripak: Tells wget to output to stdout06:07
Amaranthpiripak: instead of writing to a file06:07
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ezzieyguywufhealthy: what do you mean big picture?06:07
HealthyElijahHey Amaranth what browser do you use? FF or Opera?06:07
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nickrudAmaranth: how does having net installed stuff affect an iso upgrade? I'd guess there might be some holds and/or conficts06:07
HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: What all teh files do from root06:07
Amaranthnickrud: It'll download from the net06:08
piripakAmaranth: I assume stdout is like a temporary place. I will start from that on my next google search. thanks06:08
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riotkittiehm. it's not possible to install ubuntu from a mounted iso a la slackware, is it? =|06:08
AmaranthHealthyElijah: I use epiphany06:08
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HealthyElijahLike how C and C++ work and how to compile programs etc06:08
Amaranthpiripak: stdout is the output on the terminal06:08
HealthyElijahAmaranth: thanks06:08
Flannelpiripak: standard output06:08
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Amaranthpiripak: the | is called a pipe, it pipes the output to another app06:08
novato_bramadeux,06:09
novato_bri did06:09
Amaranthpiripak: so you're telling wget to output the URL instead of writing it to a file then telling apt-key to read that06:09
novato_brbut it's not asked for me to install06:09
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Amaranthnovato_br: I can't remember what to do then and I don't have a copy of the iso here to look06:09
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piripakAmaranth: and the last - (in | apt-key add -) is exactly where you should input the file you just read, is that it?06:10
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Flannelnovato_br: Is it the alternate CD?06:10
Amaranthnovato_br: There should be a shell script or something on the main dir of the iso you run to make it trigger to upgrade06:10
novato_brok06:10
novato_brno Flannel06:10
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novato_bri have cd desktop install of gusty06:10
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t3318_Amaranth: I copy .gconf* .gnome* .icons .metacity .nautilus .themes into the /etc/skel06:10
Amaranthpiripak: that tells apt-key to read from stdin, the pipe (|) turns wget's stdout into apt-key's stdin06:10
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Flannelnovato_br: you need the alternate CD to do an upgrade from an ISO.06:11
t3318_Amaranth: But new user ca'nt load the expected desktop06:11
Flannelnovato_br, Amaranth: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"06:11
t3318_Amaranth: there's only a brown background06:11
t3318_nothing else!06:11
Amarantht3318_: I told you to make a new user, make that one change, and copy only the .gconf06:11
ezzieyguywufis there any way to take KDE for a test drive with feisty, or do i have to just run it off a live Cd of Kubuntu feisty06:11
Amarantht3318_: You can't copy stuff from your current user blindly and expect it to work06:11
piripakAmaranth: this is very clear. thanks06:11
Flannelezzieyguywuf: you could install it on your install.  That might be less test-drivey than youre looking for.06:12
t3318_Amaranth: uhm06:12
t3318_Amaranth: I can only change in the .gconf folder?06:12
novato_brthx06:12
Amarantht3318_: No but a lot of stuff in ~/.gnome2 only works with your current user, iirc06:12
novato_brdont work, Flannel06:13
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ezzieyguywufflannel: could i, say, choose on boot to run KDE or GNOME?06:13
Flannelnovato_br: You need the alternate CD, like I said.06:13
IndyGunFreak!doesn'twork06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:13
Flannelezzieyguywuf: Not on boot, on login, but yeah.06:14
novato_brthx, flacom06:14
novato_brthx, flannel06:14
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novato_brbut i don't have the alternative cd06:14
ezzieyguywuflogin, yea, cool06:14
ezzieyguywufi might do that06:14
IceGuest_7O-kay.  I'm having dire wifi issues, what should I try? :\06:14
ezzieyguywufi'm sure i could easily find a howto right, prob a common thing to do06:14
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novato_brhow can I update with cd desktop ubuntu gutsy ?06:14
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Amaranthnovato_br: Oh, you have the desktop cd?06:14
IndyGunFreaki just did clean installs of gutsy on my laptop and Desktop, smooth as silk06:14
Amaranthnovato_br: That can only do new installs, not upgrades06:14
novato_bryep06:14
t3318_Amaranth: aha06:15
novato_brwhy?06:15
Amaranthnovato_br: Because it doesn't have any packages on it06:15
nickrudezzieyguywuf: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , done. There's your howto :)06:15
Amaranthnovato_br: The Desktop CD has a full working install on it that gets copied onto your HD when you do an install06:15
novato_bri'll cry06:15
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HornetI'm using Mint, but apparently the issue belongs to the underlying Ubuntu. :(06:16
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novato_brshould I have download the alternative version?06:16
ezzieyguywufnickrud: really that easy?06:16
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Amaranthnovato_br: There is no possible way to upgrade using that iso, burned or not06:16
Amaranthnovato_br: Yes06:16
HornetI've tried a fair bit of faffing, but to no avail.06:16
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novato_bri'll cry, dudes06:16
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Amaranthnovato_br: Although it's easier to just do an internet upgrade06:16
nickrudezzieyguywuf: yes. same for xubuntu-desktop (xfce)06:16
novato_brmy net is very slow06:16
ezzieyguywufnickrud: i'd hate to have some compatibilty issues or whatnot06:16
Amaranthnovato_br: If your /home is on a separate partition you could just do a new install06:16
novato_brit tooks more 17hours to take the iso06:16
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ezzieyguywufbut i guess that'd be confined to my KDE session huh....06:16
IndyGunFreak17hrs?06:16
illusinaCan someone help me out? I can't get firefox to use my external usb mixer, but other programs work fine with it..using feisty, the mixer is a alesis multimix, I get nothing from "asoundconf list", but I do have a few options in my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file that seem to be pertaining to the mixer that I've tried toying with to no avail06:16
IndyGunFreakwow.06:16
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JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up a cryptfs device, et cetera?06:17
nickrudezzieyguywuf: except for kde being a lesser desktop, no conflicts. They coexist nicely06:17
Flannelezzieyguywuf: Well, you can do a fresh install with that CD.  If you've got your home folder on its own partition, that's ok.06:17
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ezzieyguywufflannel:man i had a hard time with my partitioning06:17
ezzieyguywufflannel: i think it had something to do with windows taking up 2 partitions, swap taking another, then i could only use one more06:18
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Flannelezzieyguywuf: You can have as many partitions as you want, you just need to make them logical partitins06:18
tylermenezesi had a problem with my partitioning too06:18
IndyGunFreakwhy would someone mess up a perfectly good Ubuntu install with KDE?06:18
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Amaranthezzieyguywuf: You can only have 4 primary partitions but you could have made that last spot into a place to put as many extended partitions as you wanted06:19
tylermenezesgparted always crashes when partitioning06:19
tylermenezes:(06:19
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kidbuntu!realplayer06:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:19
ezzieyguywufflannel: oh, i was making them all primary06:19
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HornetAnyone? :\06:19
HornetIt's an Atheros, I've installed madwifi, nothing's working though.06:19
ezzieyguywufflannel: ah but i remember, i couldn't figure out how to make the logical partitions under the primary root partition, or something like that.....06:19
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ezzieyguywufflannel: during the install that is06:20
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JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?06:21
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joshhunthey, can anyone access http://www.lighttpd.net fine?06:21
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chalcedonydoes anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty06:22
riotkittieHornet: is it showing under ifconfig?06:22
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HornetOne sec.06:22
usr13Hornet, Does your interface detect an essid?06:22
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usr13Hornet, iwconfig06:23
chalcedonyjoshhunt: it works fine for me06:23
HornetUsing iwconfig, yes.06:23
joshhuntwell, for me it just sends me to google06:23
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usr13What essid does it show?06:23
HornetI've already tried using a wpa_supplicant thingy, which may be why.06:23
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HornetX, which should be accurate.06:23
Viroohi06:23
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chalcedonyjoshhunt: i have it .. dunno what did you need on it?06:24
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VirooI have a qs related to choosing a good hardware that fits well with ubuntu06:24
t3318_Amaranth: yep, .gconf work :)06:24
joshhuntnothing, its just odd thats all06:24
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AishikoViroo what type of hardware?06:25
chalcedonydoes anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty06:25
Viroowhat is the best compitable motherboard, graphix card and stuff06:25
Hornetusr13: it's set to X, which is the network name.06:25
ezzieyguywufif HOME is set in a separate logical partition, and a new version of linux is installed, what advantages does that have?06:25
VirooI mean best with ubuntu that gets all parts recognized out of the box06:26
usr13Hornet Someone else will have to help you with wap06:26
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dcodeI want to build packages for amd64 from an unofficial repository that provide the original sources and patches, but only i386 binaries...when I do apt-get -b source foo, it downloads the version in the official repository...how do I fix this?  Do I need to pin the packages?06:26
ezzieyguywufnvidia06:26
ezzieyguywuf*viroo06:26
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ezzieyguywufi know that much (for a laptop)06:26
usr13Hornet, I have yet to use wap06:26
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chalcedonyis anyone else using gaim ?06:26
Hornetusr13: Fair enough.06:26
Virooso nvidia is better supported than radeon ?06:26
t3318_chalcedony: gaim is pidgin now06:26
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ezzieyguywufi'm using pidgin (new GAIM)06:27
usr13I would only suggest turning off wap   temporarily, see that you can get it to connect first, and go from there.06:27
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Hornetjmorse30 - James or Jeremy? :)06:27
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chalcedonyt3318_: for ubuntu it's still gaim06:27
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dcodechalcedony, in gutsy its pidgin06:27
Hornetusr13, I can't, sadly.  It's used by other computers.06:28
AishikoViroo: really any will  work, however like all Linux distros, you have to remember Nvidia video cards are better supported, Intel, VIA, and then ATI northbridges/southbridges/host-controllors are better supported, otherwise everything else is pretty much teh same06:28
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t3318_chalcedony: ou should change to pidgin06:28
JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?06:28
nrdbis it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?06:28
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ezzieyguywufaishiko: if i'm not mistaken, ATI support is not the best06:28
VirooI see06:28
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AishikoViroo: Nvidia actually makes Linux drivers for thier cards06:29
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Viroogood, I asked because i've heard ati gave their drivers to open source06:29
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ezzieyguywufviroo: I wish!!!06:29
Virooso i thought it might be better supported06:29
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Aishikoezzieyguywuf: it's better supported for motherboard hardware then nForce is and ATI just releaced all the specs on thier video cards so they'll get better supported in time06:30
Viroothey did few weeks ago06:30
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ezzieyguywufaishiko: that is fantastic news06:30
AishikoViroo: it will be a long time before they're up to the same level of support as Nvidia06:30
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Virooi see06:30
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Viroook then nvidia will be my choice06:31
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HornetAnyone else had issues with an apparent lack of WPA support?06:31
Viroohow about the logical board, i prefere intel brand i feel it is always very compitable with linux due to cooperative intel06:31