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rdw200169andy_33: you can use nmap12:04
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andy_33andy_33: yeah, but I dont know the command :/12:04
silokoerisco: not off the top of my head - ubuntuforums would be a good place to start12:04
geniisoothsayer: Mailutils provides a commandline mail function so you can do: mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere <text here>12:04
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silokoerisco: it's a very common thing to do12:04
rdw200169andy_33: use something like nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/2412:05
eriscosiloko, I hear it is a good setup. Is it something I have to worry about before or after I make all the necessary partitions?12:05
soothsayergenii: Thanks.12:05
silokoerisco: if you do it from sys install most installers even let you do as part of the preinstal partitioning12:05
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geniisoothsayer: np12:05
eriscosiloko, I will just be using parted12:05
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silokoerisco:  on an existing install?12:05
rdw200169andy_33, it'll find hosts, even behind personal-firewalls...12:05
shiznitparted works great off the livecd12:06
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eriscosiloko, nope. Everything is being hosed and reloaded12:06
shiznitmuch better than the installed12:06
shiznitinstaller12:06
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andy_33rdw200169:  Failed to find device eth1 which was referenced in /proc/net/route12:06
silokoerisco: then it's very straight forward12:06
silokoerisco: create the partiton during the install12:06
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andy_33rdw200169:  it scanned 256 ip addresses and 0 hosts came up:\12:06
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rdw200169andy_33, of course, use your subnet12:06
Boumboum5erisco: Hm. if the purpose is simply to presever all the files in /home, what I would do is create a new partition for it, the copy all the files in /home to the new partition. Then you can wipe the old one and upgrade ubuntu over it.  Do you want more details on how to do that?12:06
GNineto say ubuntu is great but it has a lot of bugs .. is an oxymoron..  i say the most probable cause of your issues is :  human error12:06
eriscosiloko, yes... and at which stage do I setup /home to be on the other partition?12:06
silokoerisco: and simply tell the installer you want that partition to be your home dir12:06
godzirraEagleray: any ideas what to do now?12:07
Thegeektechniquequestion... Do you think adobe illustrator cs2 will work with the new version of WINE?12:07
andy_33rdw200169:  subnet, what? :x12:07
Eagleraygodzirra: back, sorry - had a phonecall12:07
rdw200169andy_33, what's your ip and subnet?12:07
eriscosiloko, you sure it prompts me for that?12:07
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andy_33rdw200169:  my ip is 10.0.0.412:07
Eagleraygodzirra: hold up while I scroll back and read your comments12:07
GNinecheck thyself before you wreck thyself12:07
andy_33rdw200169:  I don't know what subnet is tho12:07
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rdw200169andy_33, ok, try nmap -sP 10.0.0.0/2412:07
silokoerisco: if you choose custom partitioning you can do what you like12:07
godzirraEagleray: sure thing.  (Basiclaly it can't build the nvidia module from the shell script because it s unable to load nvidia.ko)12:07
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silokoerisco: if you let the installer do it for you - then you'll get it all on one partition ;)12:08
rdw200169andy_33: the /24 = 255.255.255.012:08
andy_33rdw200169:  ah, thats the ip range?12:08
puritysemidios - so if you type in ls -al /path_to_share what information do you get for the file you have tried to copy over?12:08
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eriscosiloko, hmm alright I will take a look. lets say that /home was not setup properly and was put on the same partition as /12:08
Boumboum5erisco: once the new partition is created and mounted, you can dreate the /home directory by typine /mkdir home    it's not actually /home but a duplicate in another directory. Would that soit your needs? You can copy back after the install.12:08
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eriscosiloko, will I be able to correct it afterwards?12:08
silokoerisco: yes12:08
rdw200169andy_33, i don't know, i'm guessing, but it will work anyway, and just have errors to the network ip's that are unroutable12:08
andy_33rdw200169:  K, is it any way I can resolve the ip's into the host name?12:08
Boumboum5the installer does, if you select "manual partitioning"12:09
eriscosiloko, okay I will give it a whirl. thanks12:09
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:09
rdw200169andy_33, not really, unless there's a dns server somewhere tracking them12:09
eriscoBoumboum5, thanks.12:09
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silokoerisco: good luck :)12:09
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Eagleraygodzirra: it _should_ be recompiling that on its own12:09
godzirraGNine: Its a spell you cast in wizardry to heal your characters.12:09
basculeGNine: 2 os di 2 os .. maybe :)12:09
godzirraEagleray: its not  :)12:09
rdw200169andy_33, which i doubt seriously on a local network...12:09
Boumboum5good luck erisco :)12:09
soothsayergenii: Do you know, is there an alternative to the 'mailutils' package that provides a command for sending mail and has fewer dependencies (13.4MB to install mailutils)12:09
andy_33rdw200169:  truer12:10
Eagleraygodzirra: can you give me a step-by-step of what you're doing, where it fails, and with what error?12:10
Semidiospurity, -rwxrwxrwx 1 root users    0  2007-10-01  17:0812:10
alcaponageI have a question12:10
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:10
Eaglerayrdw200169: yup12:10
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alcaponageHow do I get the menu down on the bottom?12:10
geniisoothsayer: Well, it also installs other things, the BSD mail handling utilities.12:10
Boumboum5soothsayer: this probably isn't what you are looking for, but I use webmail myself---browser-based mail.....hotmail, yahoo, and google all provide them.12:10
alcaponageLike the firefox12:10
oxeimonrdw200169: so yeah, that mathworks site didn't help, but thank you so much for all your help12:10
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WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:11
alcaponageHow do I make it so it looks like the mac osx?12:11
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basculeWoet: look into fish12:11
GNinei know semi = 18 wheeler = tractor truck , dios : does not compute12:11
geniisoothsayer: If you need command-line mail functions however, you need the mailutils package12:11
rdw200169Eagleray, i find that Ubuntu has a lot fewer than others...12:11
soothsayerBoumboum5: No it isn't what I'm looking for.12:11
puritysemidios - what happens if you put a file in the share from the linux box and copy it over to the mac, from the mac12:11
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oxeimonrdw200169: I think I'm going to take a break now, and probably come back to this some other time.12:11
godzirrash Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run, accept license agreement, Tell it to go ahead even though there's a driver on the system (it detects the newer version), tell it I dont want to check online for one, hit ok when it doesnt find a precompiled kernel interface, (then it starts trying to build and fails)12:11
Eaglerayrdw200169: It has tons less than many do12:11
silokoalcaponage: rightclick the panel - properties - orientation - choose bottom12:11
MalbertoWoet: don't make flood please !12:11
soothsayergenii: Okay, thanks. That was my question.12:11
Eaglerayrdw200169: but there are still a lot there12:11
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Eaglerayrdw200169: part of that's due to it being based on debian unstable12:11
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lucas_hi. i updated to xorg 7.3 and now the "enie" key doesn't work. it is a spanish key12:11
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rdw200169Eagleray, and ubuntu has just about the strongest user-base...12:11
basculelucas_: get a grip12:12
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Eaglerayrdw200169: and part of that's the inclusion of bleeding edge software without a long testing period12:12
geniisoothsayer: np12:12
lucas_bascule: what?12:12
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Eaglerayrdw200169: yup, by far the largest desktop userbase12:12
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tdizzyhello12:12
bascule!es | lucas_12:12
ubotulucas_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:12
eriscoone more question :P12:12
tdizzycan anyone help me with a problem?12:12
rdw200169Eagleray, and that's what's gonna cause both problems and solutions...12:12
Boumboum5alcaponage: I found a trick for that.....http://image.google.com   do an image search... term "ubuntu osx theme OR themes"....it will show a bunch of images of desktops that look like OSX and you can pick the one you like... chances are, it's on a website that lists what theme that is and how to get it.12:12
EricThi all. I just installed Ubuntu on my new shiny poweredge 2950 server - it recognizes the ethernet cards fine, but now i need assistance configuring them. i know all the proper IP's and stuff. can someone assist me?12:12
eriscosay I install a package that is 2GB. Is this space taken from / or /home?12:12
Eaglerayrdw200169: indeed...12:13
eriscowhere is the bulk of the package installed to?12:13
soothsayergenii: On second thought, surely there must be an alternative? mailutils is pulling in guile and mysql.12:13
rdw200169Eagleray, but at least the ubuntuforums are quick to find an answer to obscure things...12:13
silokoerisco: /12:13
lucas_bascule: im not looking for help in spanish. i just want to know how to change my keyboard layout12:13
Eaglerayrdw200169: Yep. #ubuntu's also pretty good most of the time12:13
eriscosiloko, hmm. A ubuntu install is how many gigs? 2-3?12:13
alcaponagesiloko: How do i make it look like the picture in herehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:13
basculelucas_: 'enie' key 'any' key, try somewhere more clueless12:13
godzirraerisco: depends what you install.12:13
heguruEricT: you installed ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop ?12:13
Boumboum5soothsayer: there are a number of mail programs for linux. I do not know enough to compare or know which suits your needs best. There's dozens of them, I know that.12:13
D4N`hi12:13
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Eaglerayrdw200169: it's why I tend to hang out here sometimes rather than #debian, #debian is a lot slower12:13
godzirraerisco: you  can probably get one under 500 megs if you tried.  you just woudlnt have x :)12:13
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carlosV2hi12:13
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silokoerisco: some people create a partition for /usr/local which holds a lot of use application data - but most sys packages go off root12:14
rdw200169oxeimon: you did add your license information to the license file, right?12:14
andy_33rdw200169:  under 10.0.0.7 it says MAC Address: xx.x.x.x.x.x..x.x  (NextGenTel Holding ASA)12:14
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lucas_bascule: asshole12:14
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EricTheguru, ubuntu-server amd6412:14
Semidiospurity, it opens on the mac just fine.  copys over great.12:14
godzirrawell crap.12:14
andy_33rdw200169:  Can i say for sure that it's not a windows computer?12:14
godzirraMy X is now broken and I cant fix it this time.12:14
heguruEricT: will the IP's be static or dhcp?12:14
EricTstatic12:14
andy_33andy_33:  i'm pretty confused12:14
soothsayerBoumboum5: My need is to send mail from a script.12:14
tdizzyi accidentally deleted a partition (my ubuntu one) and then was able to restore it using TestDisk. all my files are back but it wont load to the boot list and just boots to windows. how to i restore my ability to boot into ubuntu?12:14
heguruEricT: type sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces12:14
eriscogodzirra, siloko, I was planning on my / partition to be 10GB... perhaps I want to allow 20GB or so in the event that I have large apps to install12:14
EricTi'v been in there12:14
GNineminimum is 5gig.. but you'll endup at 12-15 gigs anyways (for an average desktop system) , erisco12:14
rdw200169andy_33, don't know12:14
heguruEricT: you have to put the configuration in there12:14
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carlosV2i'm doing a script and i need to know if user execute it with 'sudo ./script' or only with './script' (or with './script' in root acount). is it posible?12:15
EricTright. i *think* i did it right12:15
darkchr0n0s!grub12:15
silokoerisco: my root is about a gig, my /usr is about 2.75 gigs and my /home is 1.3 pretty tidy really12:15
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:15
godzirraerisco: that works.  I've got X installed and I've got 3.4 gigs used currently.12:15
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rdw200169andy_33, the mac will only tell you who manufactured the NIC12:15
EricTbut lest, it doesn't work12:15
darkchr0n0s!grub | tdizzy12:15
daylightercarlosV2: it will tell you if you need root privs or not12:15
ubotutdizzy: please see above12:15
EricTi also tried restarting networking12:15
andy_33rdw200169:  NIC being?12:15
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tdizzythank you12:15
eriscogodzirra, the 10gb or the 20?12:15
Boumboum5erisco: umm...that's kinda hard to answer....it's like saying "wow, how'd they fit all those people into that little television box?"....oh..you mean what directory..../home/yourname  whatever yourname is on your install.12:15
heguruEricT: paste the contents of your interfaces file to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:15
rdw200169andy_33, network interface card12:15
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godzirraerisco: either one.  as I said, I'm only using 3.4gigs.12:15
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atlfalcons866how can i convert jfs to ext312:15
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D4N`interest12:16
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carlosV2daylighter, the script is done by me12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  thanks :)12:16
rdw200169andy_33, nmap can do a lot more than just scan IP ranges, but it's a difficult tool to use,12:16
X3nhi there, im just wondering, sometimes when i run rythmbox it doesnt play any sound, why is this?12:16
eriscosiloko, are things in /usr separate from ubuntu? Could I upgrade / to 7.10 when it comes out and everything in /usr still is compatible?12:16
tomwgood evening. Anyone know what has happened to the automatix website?12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, I'm trying to locate a windows computer on my network12:16
carlosV2i want to say to user if needs to execute it like su before 'sudo' comands executes12:16
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X3nits pretty random, but no sound is playing now either12:16
andy_33rdw200169:  cant seem how to find it tho xD12:16
LjLtomw: we don't know and we honestly don't care12:16
godzirraEagleray: sooo any ideas?12:16
LjL!automatix > tomw    (tomw, see the private message from Ubotu)12:16
purity<semidios> what have you put in your /etc/exports file?12:16
silokoerisco: it's part of the system12:16
rdw200169andy_33, the other use, i use a lot, is the port-scanner, nmap -sS IP12:17
Boumboum5yes siloko is correct.......they go off root if they're "for everyone" and they go of /home/yourname if it's just for you (I THINK)12:17
darkchr0n0s!automatix12:17
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)12:17
Woeti just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??12:17
eriscosiloko, so why do you have yours separated?12:17
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, but it's illegal doing port scans, aint it?12:17
Eagleraygodzirra: can you tell me the exact stage you are failing at, and any errors?12:17
darkchr0n0sWoet : type ultraedit in console12:17
shizniti installed automatix on my first ubuntu install and it broke upgrade12:17
carlosV2daylighter, there are some comand like 'who' that allows to do it?12:17
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shizniti wish i would have known12:17
Boumboum5tdizzy: I've been dealing with just that problem myself today.....:)  I can help...12:17
X3nwhy does rythmbox sometimes not play any sound when playing mp3's??12:17
Eagleraygodzirra: I asked this before, but not sure if you spotted it12:17
godzirraEagleray: It fails after it says its 100% done building.12:17
atlfalcons866how can i convert jfs to ext312:17
godzirraEagleray: I don't tihnk I did.12:17
eriscosiloko, or do you?12:18
daylighterI am not sure carlosV212:18
godzirraEagleray: in the shell script.12:18
tomwLjl: sorry for wasting your time. I'll make sure it never happens again.  Thanks for being nice about it.12:18
Semidiospurity, /media/Media 192.168.1.1/24 (rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async)12:18
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EricThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/12:18
Boumboum5tdizzy: you probably need to repair GRUB, which is what boots ubunto.12:18
carlosV2ok daylighter, np. thank you :)12:18
Eagleraygodzirra: is it trying to re-use anything in /tmp?12:18
rdw200169andy_33, not when it's MY network...12:18
EricTheguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/12:18
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Naxahi12:18
andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, that being the exception, sorry12:18
godzirraEagleray: how would I know that? :)12:18
silokoerisco: yes i do - more for hygiene really - when i say it's part of the system it's more the application stuff12:18
Boumboum5tdizzy: the URL on how is at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntoAfterinstallingWindows12:18
EricTthats not a paste, since i can't paste from DRAC5, but thats the contents, minus the comments12:18
Eagleraygodzirra: try nuking anyting that looks likely in /tmp before running the shell script12:18
carlosV2bye ;)12:18
godzirraok.12:18
geniiBah was going to suggest Nail as a commandline alternative for mailutils but soothsayer left now12:18
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rdw200169andy_33, are you trying to scan and ISP's subnet or something?12:19
Eagleraygodzirra: if you're not sure, just reboot - that will nuke /tmp automatically12:19
silokoerisco: but everything remains compatable when you upgarde - don't worry12:19
NaxaHow can I see my remote X from here? I've tryied ssh -X host but the problem is that X is already running.12:19
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eriscosiloko, well the purpose of me separating /home from / on different partitions is to preserve my own files12:19
P_Kableanybody knows why there is no longer thumbnails displayed for my *cr2 files since 2 days ???12:19
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andy_33rdw200169:  I'm just trying to figure out the ip of a windows computer connected to my network12:19
silokoerisco: the fact it is on a different partition makes NO difference to a version upgrade :)12:19
eriscosiloko, are you saying if I back up /usr it will preserve my applications as well or something?12:19
godzirraEagleray: ok, let me try that and I'll try reinstalling the old vcersion.12:19
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godzirraversion12:19
sensaeHello12:19
eriscosiloko, yeah but I like to wipe it clean and reload it rather than a dist-upgrade12:19
rdw200169andy_33, and you can't look at that computer to find out?12:19
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andy_33rdw200169:  my friend wont let me12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  -.-12:20
EricTheguru, just wanted to enure you saw my link?12:20
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silokoerisco: well then perhaps you are bettwer off with just a / and /home partition12:20
rdw200169andy_33, how are you getting your ip address?12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  through a router,12:20
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eriscosiloko, I am just confused as to the benefit of separating /usr from /12:20
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rdw200169andy_33, from a router somewhere, but can you get access to it?12:20
andy_33rdw200169:  located at 10.0.0.112:20
matthew__how do I open GUI applications over ssh?12:20
sensaeThat's great - I got fed up getting my onboard sound to work, so I threw in an old audigy 2 I had lying around, and ubuntu autodetected it12:20
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andy_33rdw200169:  yeah, through telnet12:20
disownI did a manual compile and install of alsa. Now I have to redo that procedure for each kernel upgrade. Can I get the ubuntu default alsa back somehow??12:20
heguruEricT: yes i did12:21
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rdw200169andy_33, what kind of router?12:21
EricTthank you.12:21
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Woeti just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??12:21
heguruEricT: remove the dns-nameserver option12:21
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heguruEricT: and try again12:21
silokoerisco: not every appi install is part of a distribution12:21
EricTok12:21
andy_33rdw200169:  2sec12:21
alcaponageHow do I make my firefox icon... etc interactive?12:21
GNineyes, siloko12:21
GNinesystem update/upgrade wont delete your usr account12:21
alcaponagehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:21
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godzirraEagleray: Huh.  Apparently that did it.  Its still installing, but it got further than it ever has.12:21
alcaponagelike in that picture12:21
WoetDoes someone know a good app to program PHP with..?12:21
Woet?12:21
NaxaI logged in to my remote computer with ssh -X, but there was already an X running... I typed xinit -- :1 and I see that a new X is started, but it's not forwareded to my screen. what shoud i do?12:21
preactionWoet, vim12:21
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eriscosiloko, my home is 5.6GB and my /usr is about 2.5GB12:21
preactionWoet, preferably vim version 7, it has the nice tab functions. if you want a GUI, use gvim12:21
EricTok. it pings IP's, but not hostnames.12:22
andy_33Netopia 335112:22
rdw200169andy_33, the router has a lease file, for all the dhcp addresses it put out, and may or may not give you access to it12:22
sensaeI've loaded some mp3s into rhythmbox, and they are high kbps (320 or so). Rhythmbox shows them as being 15+ minutes long when they're only 5 minutes12:22
EricTso i need to add something to resolv.conf ;)12:22
godzirraEagleray: restarting now to see if it works.12:22
rdw200169EricT, you may have a DNS related problem12:22
rdw200169EricT, check /etc/resolv.conf12:22
alcaponageHow do I make my bottom tastbar interactive?12:22
heguruEricT: yes add the dns-server to /etc/resolve.conf12:22
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heguruEricT: nameserver 72.52.220.112:22
rdw200169EricT, like "nameserver IP"12:22
rdw200169heguru, ah, you beat me12:23
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EricTyup, fixed it12:23
hegururdw200169: :)12:23
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godzirraEagleray: that was apparently it =p12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: excellent12:23
EricTactually it already had that nameserver in there, but it didn't work. my host provided me with a different set12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: it now builds?12:23
silokoalcaponage: interactive?12:23
alcaponagesiloko yes12:23
alcaponagecan you go to this link?12:23
rdw200169EricT, the quickest way to troubleshoot that is by using nslookup, and checking what nameserver it says it's using12:23
godzirraEagleray: it bult, and it stays built when I reboot.12:23
alcaponagehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php12:23
eriscosiloko, my plan is 45GB NTFS, 2GB Swap, 15GB / (ext3), and 88GB /home (ext3)12:23
godzirralemme make sure its not tryring to use the vesa driver still first.12:23
puritysemidios try the following command from your mac and try again maybe with a different mount point temporarily  mount -o -P FILESERVERIP:/SHARE /MOUNTPOINT12:23
Eagleraygodzirra: yay!12:23
Jtkieferok quick question, how do I set it up so that someone other than root can run x12:24
JtkieferI'm having trouble getting it to work12:24
rdw200169EricT, step 1, ping it, step 2, nslookup it12:24
godzirraEagleray: yeah.. weird. ;)12:24
sensaeDoes anyone know why rhythmbox would misread the length of high-kbps songs?12:24
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godzirraoh well, thanks for all your help :)12:24
silokoerisco: well you obviously have plenty of room . . .12:24
eriscosiloko, indeed. 200gb drive12:24
EricTnow if they provided me with 2 nameservers, i just add a new line "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"12:24
heguruJtkiefer: by default evrery new user can run X12:24
Eagleraygodzirra: no worries, glad your problem's sorted12:24
heguruEricT: yes12:24
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eriscosiloko, I just want to figure out tactical ways to divide it proportionally12:24
EricTthen another line of "nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy" ?12:24
rdw200169EricT, most network troubleshooting guides never mention that for some unknown reason...12:24
andy_33rdw200169:  Btw, I am allowed to scan all ip ranged within 10.0.0.0/24 right?12:24
rdw200169EricT yup12:24
Jtkieferodd, I killed x and logged out and it gave me a user cannot run x error12:24
heguruEricT: you can also use www.opendns.com servers12:24
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rdw200169andy_33, sure12:24
alcaponagesiloko: All the programs are icons on the bottom and they move if you move your mouse near it12:24
EricTexcellent. guess i'm doing alright then ;)12:25
andy_33rdw200169:  aight12:25
rabbitnightmareis there something as good as ksmoothdock for gnome?12:25
rdw200169EricT, or root servers12:25
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rdw200169andy_33, it's like a mass ping12:25
EricTfirst ever server setup went smooth. just didn't know to remove that line12:25
silokoerisco: well your suggestion sounds sensible . . .12:25
andy_33rdw200169:  because, I can maybe run a nmap -P0 10.0.0.0/2412:25
andy_33rdw200169:  maybe I'll find more hosts then12:25
EricTbut i know now =D12:25
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EricTthanks guys12:25
rabbitnightmareif not better12:25
WoetHello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk12:25
silokoerisco: although i personally would leave out the NTFS partition :)12:25
eriscosiloko, you just make me question that setup when you said you have /usr separate as well. I am wondering of the benefits and advantages of it12:25
WoetI cant find "fish"12:25
eriscosiloko, so would I :( if only wine was flawless12:26
AucklaWow Azuraes is a buggy mofo. And has been forever now.12:26
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heguruEricT: :) 2950 works VERY WELL with Ubuntu (except Dapper LTS which fails to boot after installation due to bad initrd :()12:26
rdw200169andy_33, can't hurt12:26
silokoerisco: use a virtual machine . . . house your vm on an ext3 partition works a treat for me12:26
rabbitnightmareAzereus works but it should be labled treat with care it is java that is buggy12:26
EricThmm, i'm on dapper LTS12:26
WoetDoes someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk (sftpdrive for windows)12:26
WoetI cant find "fish"12:26
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EricTwhen it fails to boot on initrd, i press enter and it boots.12:26
silokoerisco: and all the tools are FOSS12:26
eriscosiloko, it is actually kind of cool. The NTFS will have windows xp pro which I can dual boot into... but I also will have vmplayer to boot up windows virtually (but off of the real NTFS partition)12:26
rdw200169andy_33, me, i'll port-scan anybody, and the only problem i'll get is that some personal firewalls on windows will black-list my ip address12:26
heguruEricT: do you have RAID?12:26
EricTyes12:27
EricTRAID512:27
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eriscoSiliconViper, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually12:27
rdw200169andy_33, but there's a legal cop-out, because no one can know if you did that, or some software that was running on your behalf12:27
Boumboum5Woet: when you install apps via wine, it requires a reboot to fully take effect. After a reboot, it should be in Applications/Wine/Ultraedit or similar.12:27
EricTinteresting though... dell sent wrong server first without RAID and i could not get that one past initrd12:27
eriscosiloko, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually12:27
Jtkieferheguru, it says creating new authorization file, then says error this user is not authorized to run x12:27
silokoerisco: ok that does sound very flexible12:27
Semidiospurity, i did a mkdir /Media to use as the mount point on my Mac.  then did the command and it gives me "Mount nfs: /Media : Permission denied"       if you could /msg me the next step I would appreciate it.  I have to step away from the comp for a bit..  10min or so12:27
geniiheguru: 2950 = Dell PowerEdge 2950?12:28
rdw200169andy_33, some filesharing apps in windows are notorious for port-scanning12:28
EricTthis one has raid and larger hard drives, those are the only change. works great.12:28
Jtkieferheguru, I'm going to go in and try to edit the auth file directly to see if that works12:28
EricTyes, genii12:28
silokoerisco: although i was truggling to find a use for a proper boot - but then you mentioned games :)12:28
heguruEricT: well then it must be the one without RAID that fails then :D12:28
siloko*struggling*12:28
eriscosiloko, hehe :P12:28
EricTyeah, mine without raid failed horribly.12:28
rdw200169andy_33, it's a *great* way to test a firewall...12:28
EricTso i went to 6.0612:28
AucklaOMFG, in the history of that program, I have never used it and had it "NOT" Be the buggiest piece I've ever used on any operating system.12:28
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AucklaHolly crap!12:28
EricTthat worked fine, but i needed raid.12:28
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geniiEricT: I have one in front of me now LOL and 3  2450 Dell too12:28
andy_33rdw200169:  nice, thanks mate (:12:28
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Boumboum5Jtkiefer: as root, use chmod (that changes the file permissions12:28
eriscosiloko, until I get another gig of ram or something the virtual computer is a little sluggish. its fine for basic stuff though12:28
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EricTlol nice :)12:29
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alecw1I'm currently learning Spanish, and I've been looking for a great spanish learning app. Can someone suggest a program? I've tried Kverbos, I didn't like it.12:29
Filthpighm12:29
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EricTany suggestions as things to do on first boot?12:29
silokoerisco: another gig of ram - sigh - you kids!!12:29
Boumboum5sounds like Jtkiefer's install of X has been damaged or corrupted somehow. Perhaps a reinstall?12:29
eriscosiloko, :P well ubuntu + windows xp = maxing out 1 gig of ram12:29
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EricTso just for clarification, raid5 with 3 HDD's makes the first 2 usable, and the last one a backup, right?12:29
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alcaponageHow do I make my programs from the taskbar on top to the bottom?12:30
alcaponageTo make it look like mac osx12:30
Boumboum5sounds very cool, erisco12:30
alcaponagewhere all the icons are interactive12:30
FilthpigUpgraded to gutsy now.. Gaim is discontinued, but why doesn't gutsy ship with pidgin or something like it?12:30
heguruEricT: yes12:30
silokoalcaponage: you can drag them from one to the other12:30
eriscoBoumboum5, I worked hard on the idea :P well, I got plenty of help setting it up12:30
EricTthought so. :)12:30
daylighterlet's say I downloaded and installed nvidia's latest drivers and I want to go back to the nvidia-glx driver, how do I remove the one I compiled myself12:30
ChousukeFilthpig: Gaim is Pidgin12:30
Boumboum5ok bye all12:30
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EricTthis should be fun. this is a pretty powerful server12:31
alcaponagehey siloko12:31
EricTdual quad core procs :)12:31
alcaponagehave you looked at the link i gave you?12:31
heguruEricT: well the parity info is usually striped i.e. stored across all three disks12:31
alcaponageI want it to be like the video on youtube12:31
silokoalcaponage: no . . .12:31
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eriscosiloko, thanks for the help. I'll get partitioning now12:31
alcaponagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m423g-W-iVA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker%2Ecom%2Fsoftware%2Fpretty%2Dand%2Dproductive%2Fpower%2Dup%2Dyour%2Dlinux%2Ddesktop%2Dwith%2Dcompiz%2Dfusion%2D291002%2Ephp12:31
thesaint4444hi guys, what is the safest way to resize a partition on my primary hard disk and still leave all the data in place?12:31
silokoerisco: no worries - good luck12:31
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FilthpigChousuke: yes, I know, but why doesn't ubuntu ship with it?12:31
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Chousuke!info pidgin12:32
heguruJtkiefer: did you fix your Xauthority file?12:32
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:32
Chousukehmm12:32
heguruJtkiefer: you should use xauth command for it12:32
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silokoalcaponage: you want me to watch a video of someones desktop ???12:32
ben-haili am from brasil12:32
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EricTheguru, i'll read about it. no need for me to waste your time on basics :)12:32
ChousukeFilthpig: yes it does12:32
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ChousukeFilthpig: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin12:33
EricTyou helped me out a bunch. that was bugging me. it litterally took me 30 seconds to get it working in 6.06 on the old server12:33
EricTbut that line was killing me12:33
Jtkieferok I'll try that12:33
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alcaponagesiloko: lol no, I want to know how I get it to look like that12:33
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alcaponagesiloko: I want my ubuntu to have the interactive thing on the bottom12:34
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silokoalcaponage: aaahh you want compiz-fusion12:34
Jtkieferbe back in a sec, switching systems12:35
alcaponagesiloko: i already have compiz-fusion, but i want the cool looking thing on the bottom12:35
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alcaponagesiloko: I want the firefox and azerus thing on the bottom, it moves around and it is animated12:35
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doafeehelp plz12:36
EricTugh.12:36
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EricTtrying to install openssh-server and its asking for the cdrom.12:36
EricTshouldn't it just find it online and be happy?12:36
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heguruEricT: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:36
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kyledi have a problem with grub, i have a dual boot system and now all of a sudden my windows xp home boot option is no longer in the grub boot menu. can anyone help?12:36
heguruEricT: comment the line with cdrom12:36
kitcheEricT: yes it will if your remove the cd from your sources.list12:36
silokoalcaponage: ok well jumping icons?? not my thing really - have you checked out the icon settings in the compiz-manager?12:37
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EricThm. worked now12:37
alcaponagesiloko: no i have not, what do i do12:37
EricTgeniuses i tell you, geniuses!12:37
silokoalcaponage: there's also a compiz channel for people who max out the capabilities (which i don't)12:37
EricTand should i set my hostname to my IP, or does it matter?12:37
alcaponagesiloko: what channel is that12:37
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tdizz1i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the linux options12:38
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heguruEricT: hostname to IP?12:38
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EricTyeah.12:38
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tdizz1ubuntu options*12:38
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heguruheguru: set your hostname to your hostname12:38
heguru^EricT12:39
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Jtkieferhere's what xauth is returning, which I don't pretend to understand12:39
Jtkieferhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39314/12:39
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EricTwhen i installed, it asked for a hostname..12:39
Arepieurmmm.. my computer have some problem with wine, is there any other program that works like wine? to run windows application..12:39
EricTi set it to "Server", should i set it to my IP?12:39
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EricTor does it matter?12:39
SlartArepie: what kind of applications are you looking to run?12:39
tdizz1can anyone help me?12:40
heguruEricT: no, set it to whatever you want to name your server, shouldn't really matter unless you're running mail/web server12:40
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EricTit is a web server12:40
ArepieSlart: urmmm.. internet download manager12:40
EricTfor a very popular online forum12:40
EricT:)12:40
thesaint4444anyone know what is the safest way to rezise my / partion ? I need to leave everything intact....12:40
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EricTthesaint4444, gparted12:40
LjLthesaint4444: the safest way is backing it up, recreating it and restoring it.12:40
D-Flamethesaint4444: Back up the data on it first too12:40
EricTuse the gparted boot disk.12:40
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LjLEricT: that's hardly a safe way.12:40
EricTdo'h.12:41
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heguruJtkiefer: it looks fine12:41
EricTignore me. i'm a n00b.12:41
thesaint4444LjL - server is in a data center - i dont have access....12:41
JtkieferI know, maybe I should just reinstall x and see if that helps12:41
ArepieSlart: i installed wine, but, i can't run it.. i don't know why.. it works earlier, but, suddenly it disappear..12:41
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heguruJtkiefer: can you paste the error again?12:41
LjLthesaint4444: then all ways are equally unsafe. (very.)12:41
SlartArepie: there are some... qemu, vmware and such.. they, more or less, emulate a whole machine so they are a bit slower.. nothing to play Wow on.. but I'd keep trying with wine... these other programs will, afaik, require you to boot windows in a  window to run your program..12:41
kitcheArepie: open up terminal and type wine wine is a command line program12:41
jackfusionhow do I make sure something dose not start up in ps -A when linux starts up?12:41
Semidiospurity, I reexcuted the command using sudo.  it worked.  I copied the file over and it showed up perfectly.  I think I know what changes I have to make now to get it running.  Thank you.  I'll be in touch if I get stuck12:41
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SlartArepie: no logs? error messages?12:42
clemhello folks12:42
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EricTanyone here use folding@home?12:42
EricTcurious12:42
LjLthesaint4444: besides, if you can't physically access the computer, it means you can't work on the / partition while it's unmounted, which in turn means that you can't do it at all.12:42
clemppl, I just installed xUbuntu, and added openoffice to it12:42
geokeratzclem> hi12:42
LjL!ot12:42
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:42
Arepiekitche: yea, i done with that.. it recognize, and it was there, but when i try to start the program, it won't load..12:42
clemBUT: ooffice window is weird12:42
tdizz1 i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone help me to fix this?12:42
geniijackfusion: If something is running there is no way to make it not show up in ps -A aside from killing it12:43
ArepieSlart: where can i find the error msg?12:43
clemany hints on using ooffice in xubuntu?12:43
Jtkieferheguru, it was essentially, creating new auth file .serverauth.11427 error user not authorized to run x12:43
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Filthpigwhat the.. Pidgin won't connect me to msn because I lack some ssl libs, but everything I can find that seems relevant is installed.. and aMSN also runs12:43
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LjLclem: perhaps try #xubuntu12:43
Jtkiefereven though it apparently is authorized to run x12:43
clem#xubuntu12:43
LjLclem: /join #xubuntu12:43
thesaint4444LjL: so the only way really is to go there use a boot disk and take it from there.... ?12:43
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LjLthesaint4444: yup.12:43
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clemLjL, will do that - thx12:43
ArepieSlart: if you can teach me how to clean all wine conf file, and let me setup from the very beginning is a good idea..12:44
alcaponageDoes anyone know how to set up the interactive icons?12:44
LaxHello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?12:44
SlartArepie: just run your program from a terminal, like if I want to run.. Oblivion, I'd run "wine OblivionLauncher.exe" .. then I get the output into that same window while the program runs12:44
LjLLax: temporarily, or forever?12:44
fliegenderfroschLax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options12:44
ArepieSlart: i told you, i done with that.. it don't work.. it don't load the file..12:44
clemhm.. and how do I join #xubuntu? (sorry for the newbie Q)12:44
SlartArepie: how do you start your download manager?12:45
thesaint4444LjL: ok, thanks, the machine has 4 other scsi disks in it - can i set them up remotely to store the data?12:45
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tdizz1can anyone please help me?  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options.12:45
kitcheclem: /join #ubuntu12:45
SlartArepie: and you don't get any error messages at all when you type that?12:45
NessieLiberationclem: /j #xubuntu12:45
kitcheclem: xubuntu of course :) missed the x12:45
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usr13Arepie, I think you can navigate to the .exe file via the file manager and just click on it.12:45
LjLthesaint4444: probably. but you still won't be able to resize your / partition remotely12:45
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clemoh, right12:45
clem(duh)12:45
jackfusionso the only to make sure a process like apache dose not start up when linux starts up is to reinstall linux correct?12:45
LjLjackfusion: ?!12:45
ArepieSlart: first, there was a menu for wine in the main menu.. but, when i try to click on that.. it won't load.. so i try from the terminal.. wine dman.exe, still don't work..12:46
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usr13jackfusion,  no that's not so.12:46
tdizz1can no one help me?12:46
migatxusomebody here has a Axim X50v ?12:46
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thesaint4444LjL: yes i will leave the route partition alone, how would i make the other disks available?12:46
Arepieusr13: yup.. and run with wine.. i try that too12:46
jackfusionis ps -A a list of running processes12:46
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jackfusion?12:46
LjLthesaint4444: partition them, format the partitions you create, and mount them.12:46
tdizz1i forgot to note that i can access all the files on the ubuntu partition with the ubuntu live CD12:46
LaxHello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?. (sorry for double, was dced)12:47
migatxuan X50v from Dell12:47
LjLjackfusion: yes it is12:47
fliegenderfroschLax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options12:47
thesaint4444LjL: how do i actually see them to partition them?12:47
LjLLax: change "splash" into "nosplash" in the kernel parameters12:47
ArepieSlart: just to confirm.. can i use cedega to run application?12:47
jackfusionthen how do I make sure a process dose not start up when linux starts up?12:47
tdizz1HELP!12:47
ZenOswyni've setup ubuntu as a small web server. with the basic security measures taken care of (firewall, chrootkit, securing sshd) are there any other major security hazards i should be aware of?12:47
usr13jackfusion, sudo services-admin12:47
clemhm, nobody in #xubuntu12:48
LjLthesaint4444: you should see them fine as their device nodes - /dev/sd# or /dev/hd# where # is a number.12:48
clemwill keep looking12:48
SlartArepie: you do change the current directory so dman.exe shows up if you do a "ls"12:48
jackfusionok thank you12:48
LaxLjL: where can i edit that? im just a noob windows user12:48
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SlartArepie: I douby Cedege will be any better at running it compared to wine.. but who knows12:48
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usr13jackfusion, NP.  Yea, just go thru and check / uncheck to your heart's delight :)12:48
heguruLax: if you just want to see the boot output without disabling splash forever, Press CTRL+F1 and CTL+F8 during boot12:48
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LjLLax: /boot/grub/menu.lst. search for "defoptions".12:48
MikeD_i upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and now the display manager won't stay running.  I'm using the 7.04 live cd, what can I do to fix my hd installation?12:48
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amiasanyone solved the 'non power of two textures' error when starting compiz ?12:49
ArepieSlart: i try for wine..12:49
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LjL!compiz > amias    (amias, see the private message from Ubotu)12:49
thesaint4444LjL: ok, thanks, i think i can see them, how can i be sure exactly what they are?12:49
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tdizz1 i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone PLEASE help me to fix this?12:49
usr13jackfusion, It's also important to realize that when you install a new server or service, it will be running when the install is done.12:49
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LjLthesaint4444: you can't. but "fdisk -l /dev/whatever" will tell you how big a drive it is, so you can probably guess.12:50
thesaint4444LjL: ok, and that is not dangerous in any way?12:50
LjLthesaint4444: that command above? no, as long as it's with the "-l" option.12:50
usr13tdizz1, So, you deleted one of your partitions?  Which one?12:50
tdizz1the ubuntu one12:50
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tdizz1but i got it back12:50
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LaxLjl: the file is write protected :p.. how do i edit it as admin?12:51
LjL!sudo > Lax    (Lax, see the private message from Ubotu)12:51
MikeD_can i use the live CD to install the OS to the HD without destroying the existing data?12:51
LjLLax: "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"12:51
thesaint4444Ljl: ok, thanks and then use fdisk to partition an format?12:51
LjL!install > MikeD_    (MikeD_, see the private message from Ubotu) yes12:51
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tdizz1and i followed a guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29 to get the list of OSs back, but it gives me an error 17 when i try to boot into any of the ubuntu options12:51
DoYouKnowmike, yeah, if you have some unpartitioned space12:51
MikeD_thanks12:52
LjLthesaint4444: yes. of course, *that* is dangerous - you need to make very sure you're partitioning and formatting the right drive.12:52
clemppl, could anyone recommend a chat server to ask about Firefox?12:52
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LjLclem: /join #firefox12:52
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clemLjL, okidoki12:52
thesaint4444LjL: ok, I get the idea very clearly... you can partition and format from root another disk without a problem?12:52
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thesaint4444LjL: but make sure it is the right disk :-)12:53
LjLthesaint4444: yes, although the kernel might then ask you to reboot (but that's unlikely if there were no partitions on the drive before)12:53
Laxthanks going to try a reboot then ;)12:53
drewzfHow can I check what provides something?12:53
drewzfin aptitude12:53
thesaint4444LjL: that wouldn't be a problem.....12:53
LjLLax: wait12:53
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LjLLax: "sudo update-grub" first12:53
LjLdrewzf: "provides" as in the "Provides:" attribute?12:54
drewzfLjL, Precisely12:54
LjLdrewzf: hold on12:54
tdizz1Can't anyone PLEASE help me??!!12:54
usr13tdizz1, Not sure how to advise you.  Not enough information.  Need to know what parition or partitions you deleted.  If you deleted  the partition that / is mounted on, the you're pretty well hosed up.  If you deleted a swap partition, that can be fixed.  If you dleeted a partition that has /home mounted on it, well that's recoverable I guess.  But, as I say, unless we know which partition and what data you have lost, we will be unable to advise you.12:54
tdizz1i deleted a / partition12:55
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tdizz1and got everything back from it12:55
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LjLdrewzf:  aptitude search "~Dprovides:<packagename>"12:55
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LjLdrewzf: without the <>12:55
tdizz1i got the GRUB thing back, but it wont let me boot into the ubuntu partition12:55
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hegurutdizz1: how did you delete the / partition? using windows installer? or fdisk?12:56
drewzfhmm12:56
LjLhe's saying he restored the / partition.12:56
tdizz1i deleted it with GParted12:56
tdizz1by accident12:56
hegurumaybe he just restored the MBR12:56
tdizz1i had an extra one12:56
tdizz1and got them confused12:56
tdizz1lol12:56
LjLtdizz1: how were you able to recover the partition?12:56
tdizz1idk what i did to restore it; i used TestDisk12:57
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LjLtestdisk, i see.12:57
LjLtdizz1: do you know what the partition is called? (like /dev/sda1 for instance)12:57
usr13tdizz1, If you deleted that partition, I'm not sure how you could have gotten anything back from it.  Exactly WHAT did you do?  (Not totally sure you have actually deleted a partition - Because if you've really deleted a partition and re-created it, there will be no data on it, and if it's the root partition, (/), you might as well go on and re-install.12:57
alcaponageCan anyone help me with my cube?12:57
LjL!info testdisk12:57
alcaponageI have everything turned on but the cube isn't working12:57
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB12:57
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thesaint4444LJl - could i say move /home to the other disk?12:58
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grandyhello...  i have a question about gutsy... if  i upgrade to the beta will i miss anything that is released in the final?  Does doing an apt-get upgrade make a beta install equivalent to final (in a few weeks or whenever it's done)?  Or will I be stuck with a system with broken parts?12:58
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what exactly do you mean by "everything turned on"?12:59
tdizz1my ubuntu partition is called /dev/hda612:59
usr13tdizz1, GRUB does not boot partitions, it boots kernels.  So, are we to assume you have deleted a kernel?12:59
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heguru!gutsy > grandy12:59
tdizz1im not completely sure12:59
LjLthesaint4444: yes, you could, but to avoid messing things up, you should at a point (i.e. when swiching /home's) boot in single-user mode, which i doubt is possible remotely12:59
grandyheguru:  huh?12:59
barzinii have a bucket of these how do I resolve them ...libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed  gnome-keyring: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed12:59
LjLtdizz1: you have extended partitions?12:59
NessieLiberation!final > grandy12:59
tdizz1yeah, one01:00
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tdizz1and a couple partitions above it in the list in GParted01:00
tdizz1lol im a linux newb01:00
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usr13tdizz1, what do you see when grub comes up at boot time?  Do you see any kernels?  Do you see one that is designated "recovery-mode"?01:00
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tdizz1yes i do, and the kernels01:01
tdizz1all of them give me an error 1701:01
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tdizz1the only option in the list that boots is Windows XP01:01
usr13tdizz1, So, you used GParted and deleted a partition?01:01
thesaint4444LjL: i think it is possible, i have a drac (dell remote access card) but i have enough on my plate to add that to the list!01:01
tdizz1yes01:01
tdizz1and restored it using TestDisk01:01
LjLtdizz1: then type "e" on a recovery mode kernel and make sure that everywhere it has a partition name, it's the right partition. if there is a UUID (a long string of number and digits), change it into the partition name.01:01
tdizz1ok01:01
thesaint4444LjL: would i boot into single user mode then move /home ?01:02
usr13tdizz1,  and that partition would be hda6?01:02
spiderpighello everyone01:02
MikeD_what are the commands to perform a system update from CLI?  (or a url to a walkthrough)01:02
tdizz1yes it is01:02
fujinapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade01:02
Chousukewith sudo01:02
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barziniif 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is not a real pkg why is ti a depends and how to I get rid of it01:02
ChousukeI prefer aptitude though. :P01:02
usr13tdizz1, Do you know what was mounted on that partition?01:02
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tdizz1what do u mean?01:02
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tdizz1u mean the mount point?01:02
LjLthesaint4444: no. you *copy* /home first (using "cp -a"), *then* you edit /etc/fstab to get the new partition mounted as /home, then you reboot to check that it works, and only then, you should remove your old home (the OLD, not the new, careful ;)01:02
usr13tdizz1, Was /  (the root directory) mounted on it?01:03
tdizz1yes01:03
hgjjjfwhn  i pop in the sims 2 cd i get this Cannot mount volume.Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.01:03
LjLthesaint4444: the problem is that, during that process, there will come a point where you'll have no /home partition at all. you should be logged in as root at that time, otherwise weird things may happen. ideally, you should be in single user mode.01:03
lfever_hello everyone01:03
usr13tdizz1, If that is true, I see no other option for you but to re-install, (and then try not to delete any more partitions that are in use from now on :)01:03
LaxLjL. #defoptions=quiet nosplash. i changed it to nosplash but its still showing it....01:03
mcphailtdizz1: you have restored the partition, but is the partition type "linux"?01:03
hgjjjfwhn i pop in the sims disk i get this nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.01:04
LjLLax, did you also issue  sudo update-grub ?01:04
tdizz1what u mean?01:04
Laxno ops01:04
tdizz1like the filesystem?01:04
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LjLtdizz1: no, the partition type as shown by fdisk01:04
mcphailtdizz1: no, the partiton type. Presumably the filesystem will be ext301:04
barziniis this a real file 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1?01:04
tdizz1yes its ext301:04
Laxill give it a go again then.. :)01:04
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mcphailtdizz1: yes, but what is the partition type?01:05
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thesaint4444LjL: so do what you need to do then reboot and login as single user mode?01:05
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LjLthesaint4444: yeah basically you'll only need single user mode to delete the old /home01:05
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mcphailtdizz1: use "sudo fdisk -l" and see what the "Id" column says01:05
hgjjjf whn i pop in the sims disk i get this invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'01:05
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Voodoo_Johnhi, im on fiesty fawn and my usb soundcard isnt working01:06
sky1looks like my repositories are messed up, it shows Ubuntu Servers status failed in lot of servers when I do a check01:06
tdizz18201:06
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tdizz183*01:06
tdizz1i meant 83 lol01:06
sky1I also cant upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04 because of this01:06
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usr13mcphail, I don't think he will be able to tell you that.  But, if he were to boot to a live CD and look around some, he might be able to give us more useful info.  But that would be hard thing to do.01:06
LjLtdizz1: that's Linux, yes.01:06
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working01:07
mcphailtdizz1: so that's fine01:07
tdizz1yeah i know it says linux01:07
needhelpHi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?01:07
rabbitnightmareok i went to install amarok and it installed then it wouldnt play mp3's and it crashed while doing this it says mp3 support is installed but wont play any of my music what do I do?01:07
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:07
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LjLrabbitnightmare: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg01:07
rabbitnightmareok ty01:08
sky1how can I fix my repositories ?01:08
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LjL!source-o-matic > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)01:08
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usr13sky1, What version of Ubuntu are you using?01:08
rabbitnightmareE: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg01:08
needhelpFAQ. | FAQ01:09
mcphailtdizz1: have you fsck'd your partition?01:09
tdizz1?01:09
fliegenderfroschrabbitnightmare: that's a 1 (one) behind xine, not a L01:09
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:09
tdizz1what do you mean by that?01:09
alcaponageCan someone help me with the cube?01:09
usr13sky1, 7.04?01:09
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rabbitnightmareoops :P01:09
rabbitnightmaresorry01:09
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sky1usr13, yeah Im using Edgy, I wan to use Fiesty01:10
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mcphailtdizz1: performed a filesystem check? You should be able to do this from the live cd01:10
rabbitnightmarealready installed and newest version01:10
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what have you done so far?01:10
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tdizz1how do i do that?01:10
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usr13You can just grab sources.list from another system.01:10
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: I have compiz fusion already and I can Alt Ctrl L and R to switch01:11
hgjjjfhow do i mount the cd drive?01:11
rabbitnightmarei might try kubuntu as this is annoying lol01:11
usr13sky1, Or, one of us can give you ours.01:11
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: But I can't go Alt Ctrl Down to go into cube mode01:11
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mcphailtdizz1: boot into the live cd, unmount the partition "sudo umount /dev/whatever" then "sudo e2fsck /dev/whatever"01:11
tdizz1k01:11
rabbitnightmaresudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom01:11
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Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:11
usr13sky1, I'll put mine on a server and send you a link.01:11
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sky1usr13, thank you, I am trying to generate myself one from the weblink I got from ubotu,also it will help me learn about source list files ;)01:11
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: afaik you can use EITHER the cube or the wall01:12
mcphailtdizz1: if it is a large partition prepare to give it half an hour or so01:12
tdizz1tells me the commands not found01:12
rabbitnightmarethe ffmpeg stuff is installed fine but mp3's still wont play01:12
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: afaik? I want the cube tho01:12
rabbitnightmarein amarok01:12
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LaxLjL: worked nicely, thank you. you wouldnt also know how to make my startup session apps start minimized to tray? thinking about gaim...01:12
mcphailtdizz1: which command?01:12
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tdizz1unmount01:12
mcphailtdizz1: umount01:12
tdizz1oh!01:13
tdizz1lol01:13
tdizz1sorrt01:13
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tdizz1sorry*01:13
mcphail:)01:13
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: what do you use to configure compiz and which version of ubuntu do you use? (afaik = as far as i know)01:13
gekohello. I'm from Universidade do Minho. And we are mirroring ubuntu. I was wondering how can we be an official mirror. Can you help us?01:13
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geko@ cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/01:13
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thesaint4444LjL: cool, thanks for the help, I will try and format, partition and mount one of the drives now, how should i set the partitions on the other drives? logical or primary? am i right in thinking primary for one continuous drive and logical for multiple partitions on the same drive?01:13
kitchegeko: read the mirror info on the wiki it's all explained there01:13
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: I have feisty I use CFSM01:13
tdizz1k it finished really fast and says "/dev/hda6: clean, 190402/856480 files, 1649761/1710914 blocks"01:14
rabbitnightmarecan someone with amarok experience help me01:14
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LjLLax, nope, i'm not on GNOME01:14
rabbitnightmareplease01:14
LjLthesaint4444, no, you'll only need logical if you want more than 4 partitions on a single drive.01:14
mattthebakerwhat ftpd is recommened for use with ubuntu for a standard desktop? i used to use vsftpd with gentoo, but am wondering if there is a better alternative?01:14
gekokitche: ok. thank you01:14
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dfletcher_is there a pdf viewer for gnome?01:14
RickXcan someone tell me how to install universe repository?01:15
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Chousukedfletcher_: evince01:15
kitchemattthebaker: well there is two proftpd camp or vsftpd camp there is others but those two are the best documented ones01:15
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dfletcher_trying it, thanks Chousuke01:15
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mattthebakerkitche: thanks01:15
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mcphailtdizz1: ...just googling error17...01:15
tdizz1k01:16
alcaponagefliegenderfrosch: ?01:16
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thesaint4444LJL: aah.. ok, so primary and mount it as any name i want then it should appear in my file system?01:16
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: is the cube plugin activated and the wall plugin deactivated?01:16
LjLthesaint4444: "mountpoint", the place you want to mount it on is called, but yes.01:17
alcaponagefliegender the cube is activated and the wall is deactivated01:17
LjL!fstab > thesaint4444    (thesaint4444, see the private message from Ubotu)01:17
Laxanyone else knows how to start apps minimized in gnome?01:17
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anathematichow do i start cron on my ubuntu server?01:17
barzinianyone know whats going on here Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.3+2_i386.deb01:17
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rabbitnightmarewill someone please help me I am having troubles playing my music with amaroK01:18
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Flannelanathematic: What version of Ubuntu?01:18
jwcgatorI need help with desktop effects01:18
anathematic Flannel whatever the newest server one is01:18
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Filthpigdoes anyone know if Gutsy has upport for the rt73 chipset (I.e. on a Linksys WUSB54GC)? Feisty tried using rt73usb, but that didn't work.. I went through a really long howto to get it to work, and it did! ...until I rebooted :/01:18
jwcgatorwith them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows01:18
anathematicdoesn't seem to be running01:18
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jwcgatorany help?01:19
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sky1how do I write the file, I am using gedit, but it is asking for sudo, how can I write into the sources.list file ?01:19
Xenguyanathematic: I would think it would be started automatically, yes?  Try: ps aux |grep -i cron01:19
Xenguyanathematic: any output from that?01:19
anathematicXenguy: already did that, for sone reason it's not running01:19
LjLsky1: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:19
LjL!sudo > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)01:19
fliegenderfroschalcaponage: so is there any animation when you change desktop?01:19
anathematicjust the search i just did came up that was it Xenguy01:19
Filthpig!rt7301:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:19
anathematicwhich i thought was wierd: i know it's installed01:19
jwcgatorI need help with desktop effects01:19
jwcgatorwith them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows01:19
Filthpig!ralink01:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:19
Flannelanathematic: Feisty uses upstart to do the cron thing.  I believe its a drop in replacement.01:19
jwcgatorAny help getting them back01:19
LjLjwcgator: nvidia card?01:19
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AcidictadpoleI'm having trouble getting responses from the apt-get update servers.. I originally had them set to ca. and I changed them to us. I still get 404 though using apt-get update. I can ping the servers fine.01:19
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Xenguyanathematic: try: which cron01:20
alcaponageCan ANYONE help me with my cube?01:20
anathematicFlannel: but it has cron installed still? I just want to start it again without restarting the server01:20
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jwcgatoryes01:20
jwcgatorljl01:20
LjLAcidictadpole: pastebin your sources.list01:20
Acidictadpolek01:20
LjLjwcgator: try  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24  and then restart X01:20
anathematicXenguy: "/usr/sbin/cron"01:20
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Greyscalesleep good01:20
tonyyarussoalcaponage: try #ubuntu-effects01:20
thesaint4444LJL: cheers...01:20
ekrengeldoes anyone know how to unshare a folder from the terminal?01:20
anathematicXenguy: when i  just go "sudo crond" it saids command not found01:20
anathematic=\ which is wierd01:21
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lfever_Feisty Package Manager and apt-get return errors, can anybody help? :-[01:21
mcphailtdizz1: i'm struggling to work out why you should get an error17. The partition exists, and is clearly ext3...01:21
LjLanathematic: that's because the cron daemon is simply called 'cron'01:21
tdizz1and has all the files that were on it before01:21
LjLanathematic: though i don't think you're supposed to invoke it manually01:21
fliegenderfroschlfever_: can you be a bit more specific?01:21
usr13sky1, Still there?01:21
tdizz1does anyone else have an idea why this would happen?01:22
anathematicyeah LjL i don't think so01:22
sky1usr13, yup I just replaced the file01:22
anathematicbut you should be able to still01:22
AcidictadpoleLjL: http://pastebin.com/d62d68e9301:22
LjLanathematic: you are. but "crond" never existed, it's "cron"01:22
Xenguyanathematic: /etc/init.d/cron --help01:22
fliegenderfroschlfever_: what's the error message?01:22
usr13Ok, good.01:22
tdizz1maybe the GRUB is trying to load it from a wrong place? just wondering...im a linux newb so have no clue what that would mean....01:22
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Xenguyanathematic: anyway, it should start up automatically when you boot01:22
LjLAcidictadpole, that sources.list is for Breezy, and Breezy is not supported since a long time now.01:22
sky1usr13, I think Im gonna upgrade to FIesty now, hope my T60 doesnt crashes01:22
anathematicLjL: sorry that's just waht an article said i was reading01:22
anathematicXenguy: yeah i know, no idea why it was down01:23
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anathematicanyway it's up now thanks01:23
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Xenguyanathematic: yw01:23
anathematicoh wait01:23
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anathematicXenguy: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4381: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:23
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anathematicbah silly thing01:23
sky1usr13, I dont need to reboot or restart the system after updating the source list right ?01:23
LjLanathematic:  sudo invoke-rc.d cron restart 01:23
decayanyone here an expert with twinview settings?01:23
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LjLsky1: right, but you need to  sudo apt-get update 01:24
anathematicthank you LjL now it's behaving01:24
LjL!anyone > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
Xenguyanathematic: or just /etc/init.d/cron restart01:24
LjL!twinview > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
anathematicXenguy: i must get my act togethe and just learn these soon01:24
Xenguyanathematic: er, with sudo01:24
anathematicthanks again01:24
anathematicyeah i figured ;)01:24
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AcidictadpoleLjL: How can I go about a remote distribution upgrade then?01:24
LjLXenguy: why on earth? the 'invoke-rc.d' command is there so that you don't do that manually.01:24
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LjL!upgrade > Acidictadpole    (Acidictadpole, see the private message from Ubotu)01:24
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decayit's complicated. I can't just type it out. i'd have to explain in details and that would take alot of lines01:25
Acidictadpoleappreciated :)01:25
lfever_fliegenderfrosch i'm getting several errors Cant parse, section with no headers problem with merge list, non version list01:25
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anathematicLjL and Xenguy: i did that command restarted it however the process doesn't appear to be running still?01:25
cafuegoLjL: After 10-odd years, typing /etc/init.d/ is a *lot* faster for me than typing invoke-rc.d01:25
Voodoo_Johnmy on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it01:25
XenguyLjL: if it were 'service' or some such I might remember it, but that command is more trouble to remember than the typing it saves (if it does at all :-)01:25
anathematic(I used "px aux | grep cron" ot look for it01:25
cafuegoPlus I keep typo3ing the latter :-(01:25
LjLanathematic: tail /var/log/syslog, see if cron complained about anything01:26
sky1usr13, its waiting on connecting to seveas.imbrandon.com << 99% after i do sudo apt-get update01:26
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fliegenderfroschlfever_: "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help? have you changed your sources.list?01:26
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LjLXenguy: you just have to rememeber "invoke". actually, "invo".01:26
anathematicLjL:  yeah it did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39321/01:26
usr13Acidictadpole, http://cmsproducer.com/ubuntu-upgrade-5.10-breezy-badger-7.04-feisty-fawn01:27
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kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:27
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X3nhey there, my rythmbox randomly stops playing sound sometimes01:28
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X3nlike sometimes it works, i mean it always works, but sometimes theres no sound :S01:28
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X3nusing fiesty01:28
XenguyLjL: funnily enough it does appear to be exactly the same amount of typing -- go figure ;-)01:28
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lfever_fliegenderfrosch that returns errors, i haven't changed my sources list.01:28
X3ni cant listen to mp3's, it plays them but no sound :S01:29
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X3nsometimes there is sound, sometimes there isnt :S01:29
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:29
whiskeytangogodzirra, you online still?01:29
SivikX3n, what sound driver and your not running anything else with sound, are you?01:30
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kailashamri1can anyone help?01:30
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..01:30
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X3nnope, not running anything else with sound01:30
X3nhow do i check my sound driver?01:30
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jansenqAnybody have proglems with flgrx after upgrading to gusty?01:30
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Picijansenq: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.01:30
simplechathey, i've been trying to get x to recognise my graphics card, i reconfigured and hosed X01:31
jansenqPici: Thx01:31
LjLXenguy: it does? for /etc/init.d/, i neet to type /e<Tab>in<Tab>.<Tab>01:31
simplechatits coming up with a fatal error that i can't find any screens01:31
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Sassukesers leutz01:31
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simplechati copied back the backup xorg.conf and it still dies on startup01:31
unjusticeuk01:31
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simplechat:(01:31
XenguyLjL: ahh, wasn't thinking of01:31
simplechatwhat do i do?01:31
Sassukedeutsche hier ?01:31
usr13simplechat, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg01:31
Sassuke^^01:31
Flannel!de | Sassuke01:31
ubotuSassuke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:31
XenguyLjL: tabs01:32
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X3nim using alsa sound driver?01:32
simplechatusr13, i'm a noob at this, and last time i reconfigured i killed my machine01:32
Sassukekann mir vllt. jemand kurz mit meinen nub fragen helfen ?01:32
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fliegenderfroschlfever_: sorry, exept for replacing the sources.list with a "clean" one and trying again, i have no idea01:32
X3nits really random though, sometimes i can hear music, and sometimes not01:32
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?01:32
Sassukewill mir jetzt endlich linux drauf hauen was aber nicht so richtig was ich beachten soll01:32
X3nit plays mp3's but sometimes no sound01:32
simplechatusr13, could i have some help running through it?01:32
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LjLanathematic: pastebin your /etc/crontab01:32
anathematicLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39323/ and thanks =)01:33
usr13simplechat, Yes01:33
LjLSassuke: bitte schreibe /join #ubuntu-de01:33
whiskeytangoOk, when i try to install my binary drivers fo rmy video card it says "cant open whatevertehfileis.run"01:33
LjLSassuke: wir sprechen englisch hier01:33
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fliegenderfroschSassuke: gerne in #ubuntu-de01:33
eriscoahh! crap01:33
simplechatusr13, unknown option reconfigure01:33
t00naQuick! I have some grandparents who know very little about computers, they bought a new computer, and I'm going to put a 'buntu on it. Gnome or KDE?01:33
lfever_fliegenderfrosch: thanks for the info, i will give that a try01:33
LjLanathematic: there's your problem. the first line is missing a #01:33
eriscoI partitioned my disk and reinstalled ubuntu but there appears to be a problem with installing windows01:33
anathematicahhh thanks01:33
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:33
Xenguyt00na: gnome01:33
usr13simplechat, Actually, there is an easier way.01:33
Sassukesry wechsele channel :D01:34
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simplechatyes?01:34
t00naXenguy: why?01:34
tonyyarussot00na: That's a very touchy question.  Chances are folks here will vote Gnome, those in #kubuntu KDE.01:34
anathematicoh Ljl that was jsut my pasting01:34
anathematicit's there01:34
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE help me with this problem?01:34
usr13simplechat,  DO you have Ubuntu 7.04 CD you can boot to?01:34
Xenguyt00na: simpler, less options01:34
t00naHm... okay01:34
t00nakthxbai!01:34
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tonyyarussot00na: You can always start with Gnome and switch later if you feel like it - you're not locked into one or the other.01:34
simplechatIn the log file it says "Failed to load module fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) no drivers avalible01:34
simplechatyeah, i do01:34
tonyyarussobah01:34
usr13simplechat, If so, boot to it and copy the xorg.conf file over to the hard drive.01:34
_Jaak_i am trying to setup a pptp vpn server, it works but when i connect to it the devices looses internet connection, what do i setup server side to give the clients acces to the internet of the server?01:34
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simplechatusr13, ok01:35
eriscomy partitions are as followings: Swap, EXT3, Unpartitioned Space, EXT3. When I try to install windows on the unpartitioned space it says the maximum number of partitions already exist. Is it impossible to use the unpartitioned space simply because there is partitioned space occuring after it?01:35
eriscowhat is going on?01:35
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whiskeytango/notice godzirra hey would you mind walking me through getting these binary drivers to work for my 8500 GT ?01:35
whiskeytangobah01:35
kailashamri1we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?01:35
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sinizzlhow do i change my machine's domain name ?01:35
simplechatusr13, where would i find it on the disk?01:35
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LjLanathematic: try  sudo cron -f  and see what it says then01:36
usr13simplechat, e.g.  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /mnt/hda2/etc/X11/     (using hypothetical mount point /mnt/hda2, you will have to customize as needed.)01:36
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anathematicLjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29146: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:36
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eriscodoes anyone know?01:36
LjLanathematic: ok try again after  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop 01:36
anathematicLjL i've got my root account locked is that the problem maybe?01:36
eriscowhy will windows not install on the available free space? :s01:36
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LjLanathematic: of course not. the root account is *supposed* to be locked.01:36
anathematicahh i see01:37
anathematicLjL: done :)01:37
usr13simplechat, Once it boots up and is working ok, open a terminal and copy the xorg.conf file to the HD, (as shown above(.01:37
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simplechatusr13, ok, i just need to find the cd01:37
Peloerisco, where is the free space located ? windows likes being on the first partition of the boot hdd01:37
simplechatand my computer is taking a long time to cycle01:37
Mr_SiebelCan anybody tell me how to go about finding open ports on my machine?01:37
LjLerisco: are you sure there aren't *four* partitions already?01:37
thesaint4444LjL: that was really helpfull, thanks. When i look at my fstab there is no seperate partition for /home - it must be contained within root, does that make things easier if I add a new mount point?01:37
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eriscoPelo,  2GB Swap, 20GB EXT3, 58GB Unpartitioned Space, 120GB EXT301:37
vmlinuz`hey01:38
LjLthesaint4444: neither easier nor harder.01:38
eriscoLjL, nope01:38
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LjL!info nmap | Mr_Siebel01:38
ubotumr_siebel: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB01:38
vmlinuz`whats the command to re-configure xfce dsktop as a start01:38
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Peloerisco, boot the ubuntu live cd,  move the partitions so the unalocated space is at the beginning of the hdd01:38
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE!!!!!! help me with this problem?01:38
eriscoPelo, but that puts windows at the end of the disk... it will be slow :(01:38
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LjLanathematic: so what does it say now?01:38
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anathematicLjL: well it saids that it stopped it01:39
anathematici'll start it again01:39
LjLanathematic: no.01:39
anathematicokay01:39
LjLanathematic: i meant to type  cron -f  now01:39
eriscoPelo, what would you recommend I do to arrange my partitions in a good order?01:39
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thesaint4444Mr_Siebel: netstat -nlt - use man netstat....01:40
anathematicLjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29194: Resource temporarily unavailable"01:40
eriscoPelo, I wouldn't want 58GB of windows right at the start... I previously installed windows at the end01:40
Peloerisco,  are you trying to install windows on a ext3 partition ? can'T do that , you need to install in in unallocated space to windows format's it to nfts01:40
Mark7Evening all01:40
tdizzyi accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?!!!!01:40
thesaint4444LjL - hmmm..01:40
eriscoPelo, no, I am trying to use the remaining space for windows01:40
LjLanathematic: ps aux | grep 2919401:40
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Mark7The text in here is tiny01:40
eriscoPelo, but windows won't do it... I think it is because the remaining space is between two partitions01:40
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..01:40
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mcphailtdizzy: when you use "sudo fdisk -l", what partition is your (restored) root partition?01:41
sinizzlin what file is my computer's domain name set ?01:41
LjLtdizzy, have you tried hitting "e" on your kernel item in GRUB, and making sure the *correct* partition is mentioned everywhere in the stuff that comes up?01:41
Peloerisco,   I already told you what to do , move the unallocated space to the beginning of the hdd and install windows on that01:41
eriscoPelo, I have to factor 2GB swap, 20GB / (ext3), 120GB /home (ext3) and 58GB NTFS01:41
tdizzyyeah01:41
tdizzyit is01:41
vmlinuz`I didn't know what happened to my xfce, now I 'm in Xfce without any bars.. how to reconfigure it pls01:41
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eriscoPelo, but I don't want windows at the very start... that is the fastest spot on the disk. I want my swap there :P01:41
Peloerisco,  maybe you should ask in ##windows01:41
tdizzyhda6 is the partition01:41
sinizzlvmlinuz`: rm -rf /tmp && rm -rf ~/.config as your normal user01:41
anathematichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/01:41
anathematicoh yeah LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/01:42
eriscoPelo, nah this is a linux question :P01:42
LjLtdizzy: and there is no UUID mentioned anywhere?01:42
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that basically resets the entire xfce config.01:42
tdizzywhatds UUID?01:42
vmlinuz`sinizzl: Thanks.01:42
Peloerisco,  it's about intalling windows that is a windows question01:42
Pelo!uuid | tdizzy01:42
ubotutdizzy: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:42
LjLtdizzy: a long string of numbers and letters, as i said before.01:42
vmlinuz`that resets kde and gnome config too?01:42
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eriscoPelo, no it is about using a linux based application to partition my disk01:42
sinizzlvmlinuz`: beware of not accidentally deleting files in /tmp that u still want to use though... but i guess u know that urself01:42
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LjLtdizzy: if you see one, change it into your partition name - /dev/whatever01:42
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tdizzyUUID="637daae7-0816-45e1-a34a-faa5f6c3a985"01:42
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tdizzyso i have to change that?01:43
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Peloerisco, right now it's about where to put windows,  you got my opinion , if you want a second opinion ask someone else01:43
BarryToemanMy cut and paste stopped working.  Every paste ends up as "".  Select and paste with mouse middle button still works, however.01:43
LjLanathematic: so, cron is running, and it doesn't want to stop. try  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop  once again, then see if it's still in  ps aux | grep cron ; if it is,  sudo killall -9 cron 01:43
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eriscoPelo, alrighty01:43
vmlinuz`sinizzl: yea but there was a GUI popped on me when i first ran xfce to configure it. then after that it says "If you dislike this in future you can easily write this command 'blah blah' to re-configure it again"01:43
MikeD_how can i backup a large /home folder to multiple DVD?01:43
vmlinuz`but thing is sinizzl i can't remember that command 'blah blah' do you know it?01:43
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eriscoPelo, do you think it would work if I put windows at the end of the drive though?01:43
LjLtdizzy: that is from your boot menu?01:43
tusseyhey new version of flash is out, what's the easiest way to get it?01:43
tdizzyno...01:43
tdizzylol01:43
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sayersWith cups I have my mom an ubuntu user, if I add her to the allowed printer users, even though she's on a different machine will it allow her to print?01:44
anathematicLjL:  it's stopped now after the killall -9 ...01:44
tdizzytheres no UUID in my boot menu01:44
simplechatusr13, i'm in the boot disk, and the mount point is disk, in /media01:44
X3nwhat the hell man, i cant listen to any mp3's now -.-, im getting no sound! it plays the files, but no sound!?, man this is random and starting to piss me off01:44
anathematicso LjL where from here? :)01:44
Peloerisco, I beleive I said windows likes to be at the beginning,  if you want another answer on where it is best to install windows try asking in ##windows01:44
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that command was certainly not those two i just gave you... would really surprise me if they were... in any case, it will do the job. xfce stores any settings in ~/.config but if u dont delete /tmp/ as well it ignores ur 'settings-reset'01:44
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LjLtdizzy: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?01:44
LjLanathematic: "cron -f"01:44
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sky1uggh, I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use01:44
Pelolater folks01:44
vmlinuz`sinizzl: no your command wasnt it.01:45
sinizzlvmlinuz`: certainly not :D01:45
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anathematicLjL: nothing is coming up now just a blank line?01:45
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sinizzli use both gnome-panel & xfce-panel at the same time... lol... xfce panel lacks some features i need ;-(01:45
LjLanathematic: it means it's running, apparently. stop it with ctrl+c01:45
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tdizzywhats pastebin?01:45
tdizzylol01:45
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LjL!pastebin | tdizzy01:45
ubotutdizzy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:45
usr13simplechat, Ok01:45
vmlinuz`rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X11-unix/X0': Operation not permitted01:45
vmlinuz`rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X0-lock': Operation not permitted01:45
PhotocopyAnyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs?01:45
vmlinuz`sinizzl: why?01:45
sinizzltdizzy: dunno. it has something to do with squirrels i think01:45
anathematicLjL: ahh yeah, so i've started it with & at the end01:46
anathematicand it seems fine01:46
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LjLanathematic: ... no01:46
sinizzlvmlinuz`: what u mean, why ?01:46
sky1I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use01:46
anathematicmm?01:46
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: look at the error it gave me01:46
vmlinuz`sinizzl: thats your command01:46
anathematicLjL, what should I had done then?01:46
LjLanathematic: you *need* to be able to start it with  sudo invoke-rc.d start . you *don't* want to start it manually. especially, it makes *no* sense to start it with &.01:46
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: i certainly hope u did not do it as root01:46
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: nop wasnt as root01:46
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: that thing i just gave only affects xfce4-session01:46
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usr13simplechat, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /media/etc/X11/    (if the / partition is really mounted at /media )01:47
tdizzywhere do i find the grub lst file? the ubuntu partition?01:47
LjLanathematic: so now kill the one you've started, and start it with  invoke-rc.d cron start , and see if syslog still gives error01:47
vmlinuz`sinizzl: no. it affict something else too01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: naturally it will complain while doing rm -rf /tmp/ for not all of the files/dirs belong to ur user01:47
LjLtdizzy: yes, in the ubuntu partition, in the /boot/grub directory01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: that is ?01:47
fliegenderfroschtdizzy: /boot/grub/menu.lst01:47
ben_I just found out I've got a PCI card reader built into my laptop. On XP, when I insert my SD camera card, it automatically mounts it as a generic volunme. Is this hardware supported on ubuntu, and if so how would I go about mounting it?01:47
vmlinuz`sinizzl: KDE & Gnome configuration01:47
BarryToemanMikeD_: try http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: gnome stores its config in ~/.gnome ~/.gconf etc.01:47
_Jaak_Can anyone point me in a direction on how to setup a pptp server to enable clients to acces the internet?01:47
simplechatusr13, ok, now i've got it back up01:47
simplechat:)01:47
simplechatthanks for your help! :)01:47
sinizzlvmlinuz`: ~/.config is basically xfce and a bunch of other programs as well though01:47
jbu311can anyone hear me?01:47
Mr_SiebelHow do I netstat myself?01:48
vmlinuz`sinizzl: let me reboot and see if that fixes tmhe problem01:48
OleMoudiMikeD_, use tar with -M to specify multivolume and -L volume size01:48
usr13simplechat, NP01:48
sinizzlvmlinuz`: dont need to reboot for that, just restart X01:48
PhotocopyIf i have a 50GB partition with 20GB of files on it, and i try to partition it into two 25GB partitions will one partition have all the files  still and the other be blank?01:48
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simplechatjbu311, go to a terminal and type netstat01:48
vmlinuz`sinizzl: that what im gonna do, brb01:48
sinizzlk01:48
usr13jbu311, We can't hear you but we can see you.01:48
tdizzyLjL: i put it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/01:48
anathematicLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39327/01:48
jbu311thanks!01:48
usr13jbu311, Comb your hair!01:48
PiciPhotocopy: You'd have to resize it and add a new partition.01:48
tusseyhey the new version of Flash is out for linux. what is the preferred way of installing this onto my ubuntu system?01:48
jbu311usr13: it's combed01:49
PhotocopyPici01:49
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usr13jbu311, Ok, that's better...01:49
PiciPhotocopy01:49
PhotocopyAnd will that make me lose the files?01:49
sinizzltussey: it is ? schweet.01:49
vmlinuz`sinizzl: same thing, im still in trouble :(01:49
sinizzlvmlinuz`: if u launch xfce4-panel from terminal, does it give u any error ?01:49
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LjLanathematic, if the lines from the invoke-rc.d command are the ones starting from 19:42:17, then they seem fine (i suspect the other ones are the ones from when you did  cron -f ).01:49
PiciPhotocopy: It shouldnt. But its no paritioning is 100% flawless.01:49
eriscodoes anyone know generally how much speed difference there is at the start of the drive in comparison to the end of the drive?01:49
LjLanathematic: ps aux | grep cron - if it's running, i think it should be fine.01:49
PhotocopyPici: Which is better for dualboot, install windows, then ubuntu? or ubuntu, then windows01:50
eriscois it really more-so negligible?01:50
mcphailtdizzy: i think the hd0,6 lines need to be hd0,501:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: nop01:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: it started them!!01:50
PiciPhotocopy: Windows then Ubuntu01:50
mcphailtdizzy: but i could be wrong01:50
sinizzlvmlinuz`: did u rm -rf /tmp/ ?01:50
`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?01:50
anathematicLjL: yeah it's up and running fine01:50
anathematicty01:50
vmlinuz`sinizzl: yep01:50
sky1Is it ok to use GParted to do my partition from within Ubuntu, will my windows be ok after parition(would be able to use it)01:50
PhotocopyPici: Good cause windows is already installed.01:50
LjLerisco: why believe figures that random people give you?01:50
LjL!info bonnie++ | erisco01:50
ubotuerisco: bonnie++: Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03abuild1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB01:50
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tdizzymcphail: ok, if i mess it up i can fix it, correct?01:50
sinizzlvmlinuz`: try it like this: rm -rf /tmp/ && rm -rf  ~/.config && kill -9 -101:50
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mcphailtdizzy: from the livecd, yes01:50
tdizzyk01:51
eriscoLjL, what are you suggesting?...01:51
vmlinuz`the rm -rf /tmp/ "gives errors"01:51
sinizzlvmlinuz`: naturally.01:51
PhotocopyDoes anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs? I don't have a burner, so I need to use things line ubuntu's shipit.01:51
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LjLerisco: i'm suggesting that you install bonnie++ and run it. it will tell you which parts of your drive are faster, and by how much.01:51
vmlinuz`so why my xfce panels arent showing for me01:51
eriscoLjL, even if it isn't all partitioned yet?01:51
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`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?01:52
sinizzlvmlinuz`: because they're not in your xfce4-session.rc anymore01:52
LjLerisco: that might be a problem, i don't remember if bonnie can work on unpartitioned space. try.01:52
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tusseydoes Envice support editing PDFs with fields?01:52
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: I want to configure my xfce4-session with a GUI01:52
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i want that gui that popped on me when i first ran xfce01:52
sinizzlvmlinuz`: i wrote my own .xsession exactly because of this problem01:52
fliegenderfroschtussey, only in gnome 2.20 afaik01:52
eriscoLjL, *shrug*01:52
vmlinuz`sinizzl: send it to me01:52
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: let me try it, at least ebetter than nothing01:52
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: xfce4-session insanely alters its configuration in whatever aspect it feels like at the moment01:52
eriscoLjL, I am just worried about installing windows at the end of my drive is all. I don't want it to be sluggish01:52
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tusseywhat version of GNOME does ubuntu 7.04 have?01:52
eriscoLjL, and it is 200GB drive at that01:53
sinizzlvmlinuz`: are you using gdm/kdm or something like that ?01:53
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: i'd like to have my panels01:53
LjLerisco, even if i told you what the percentage figures are for my drive, would it be applicable to your drive?01:53
fliegenderfroschtussey: 2.1801:53
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: yea i use one of them, not sure which >_<01:53
PhotocopyIs there any other distrobutions with shipit?01:53
vmlinuz`sinizzl:  a login screen pops on me on started up01:53
Photocopyor something similar?01:53
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vmlinuz`i can't u se backspace on this terminal, that sucks >(01:54
fliegenderfroschtussey: you could use "acroread" with "acroread-plugins"01:54
eriscoLjL, no. However, I understood it as simply logic that the farther the arm has to travel to get the information the longer it is going to take01:54
usr13 vmlinuz` Get another keyboard.01:54
LjLerisco: that is true. how important that effect is, however, depends on the drive.01:54
vmlinuz`usr13: my keyboard is fine, only this terminal is odd.01:54
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tusseythanks I'll give that a try01:54
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: doesn't matter. what u have to do is: create a ~/.xsession file that contains all that xfce stuff. tell gdm/kdm whatever to use .xession by selecting 'default session' at login. i can send u an example of my flavor of .xsession (mostly xfce stuff)01:54
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eriscoLjL, bonnie++ takes a long time. I am impatient I guess :P01:55
vmlinuz`sinizzl: send pls01:55
theveranthey - how long should a fsck /dev/sdc1 take if the drive is 500GB?01:55
sky1how can I use GParted to resize my partition ? I cant unmount within Ubuntu01:55
LjLerisco: ok: 20% difference.01:55
tusseyhow would I go about installing acroread? I didn't find it in SPM01:55
Picisky1: Run it from the LiveCD.01:55
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i want to send you something01:55
sinizzlvmlinuz`: http://rafb.net/p/DZDqGf80.html <- as u can see there's also non-xfce related stuff in there. just erase those two lines01:55
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eriscoLjL, yours is a 20% difference?01:55
LjLerisco: perhaps 30% if your drive is not running in silent mode.01:55
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset?01:55
sky1Pici:ok01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset command?01:56
LjLerisco: about it.01:56
BarryToemanPhotocopy: go to distrowatch.com.  Or on-disk.com will mail you distributions for a few dollars each.01:56
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vmlinuz`scguy318: what command01:56
norgulhi folks01:56
eriscoLjL, holy crap that is terrible01:56
theverantI'm having touble booting because of a forced check hanging01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: reset01:56
fliegenderfroschtussey, it's available in the medibuntu repo01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: maybe it could rectify your terminal01:56
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sinizzlscguy318: how can u reset xfce4 session? i only know a rather complicated way01:56
norgulis there a channel where the ubuntu "developers" are?01:56
vmlinuz`scguy318: how can i reset01:56
theverantto a entirely storage drive01:56
mcphailtheverant: be patient01:56
scguy318vmlinuz`: by typing reset01:56
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vmlinuz`reset01:56
scguy318sinizzl: what do you mean?01:56
tusseyhow do access that? Sorry I'm new to ubuntu01:56
sinizzlscguy318: nevermind01:57
theverantmcphail - ok... that's good to know :)  The other drives I did went super quick... I'll just leave it along for a bit though01:57
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sinizzlvmlinuz`: he apparently meant something else^^01:57
mcphailtheverant: the fsck can take ages and appear to hang01:57
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vmlinuz`sinizzl: is that all your .xsession ?01:57
mcphailtheverant: remember you can turn forced checking off in the future01:57
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fliegenderfroschtussey: see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/01:57
theverantmcphail - that is oddly comforting.  I will do that, because this is silly01:57
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theverantI will also backup my drive more often01:57
sinizzlvmlinuz`: it is. comment the two lines that contain 'gnome' and u got exactly teh same thing as a plain xfce session. xfce launches by default xfwm4, xfdesktop && xfce4-panel, that's about it.01:57
theverantit's been a couple weeks and I have hundreds of pictures on there not backed up yet... :| kinda nerve racking01:58
sinizzlvmlinuz`: xfdesktop has its own settings manager, such as gnome-settings-daemon or whatever that thing's called.01:58
mcphailtheverant: indeed :)01:58
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eriscoLjL, I didn't understand the output whatsoever01:59
joshhunthello01:59
eg2Hello, I installed ubuntu right over my win XP. it said it will save my docmuments and some settings.... where is my documents?01:59
sinizzl eg2 probably lost in space01:59
joshhunt!ntfs01:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:59
Flanneleg2: in your home folder (Places > Home)01:59
cyph3ranyone know how to open a port for samba from the command line?01:59
vmlinuz`sinizzl: i save them into file called ".xsesson" ?01:59
vmlinuz`sinizzl: and the numbers included?02:00
eriscoMachine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP02:00
eriscoericLinux        2G 37112  82 46497  20 17781   9 39161  65 44841   6 181.6   102:00
eriscothat's what I got02:00
sinizzlvmlinuz`: no, the numbers ahve been added by rafb.net02:00
sinizzlvmlinuz`: it's basically 4 lines02:00
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sinizzlbut u need 'exec xfdesktop' at the end. don't know why but withouth the 'exec' it behaves buggy at times.02:00
LjLerisco: the package is bonnie++, but the program from it that you want to use is zcav, "man zcav"02:00
eg2Flannel: i can only see a shortcut to examples and a desktop icon there.02:00
eriscoLjL, that is what bonnie told me02:00
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eriscoLjL, is it suggesting that I can write 37MB/sec to the start and only 0.2MB/s to the end??02:01
LjLerisco: yeah but that doesn't say anything about the speeds of the various zones of your harddrive. you run zcav for that.02:01
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LjLerisco: no, nothing of the sort02:01
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decayAnyone can help me with twinview modes? I think metamodes is the problem02:03
Flanneleg2: I believe the migration thing puts stuff there.  I might be wrong though.  Did you check the "My Documents" when given the chance in the installer?02:03
eg2i checked something that it should save my documents from win xp02:03
cyph3rquit02:03
eg2can't recall the exact frase in installation02:04
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LjLerisco: perhaps you want to use the -c option to use a block size larger than the default 100 megabytes, with such a large drive. if you try 1 gigabyte, i'll do the same on my machine and we can compare the results.02:04
eriscoLjL, I cannot seem to get zcav to do anything02:04
eg2oh, btw. there is a channel for ubuntu where i can discuss compiz fusion and stuff. whats the channel name?02:04
Flanneleg2: Right,  http://www.michaellarabel.com/external/migration-assistant-2.png  And you did check the "my documents"?02:04
LjLerisco, it needs sudo.02:04
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Flanneleg2: #ubuntu-effects02:04
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eriscoLjl, sudo zcav - -b 1000M    ?02:05
LjLerisco:  sudo zcav -b 1000M /dev/hda  (assuming /dev/hda is your drive)02:05
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eg2Flannel: where it says michael microsoft windows xp bla bla, i just checked michael. didn't notice there was a dropdown menu. but if i checked it, it must have checked all the stuff, right?02:05
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eriscoLjL, mine is sda I believe. what changes the h to an s? I dunno02:06
LjLerisco: obviously, you should run it with as little disk load as possible (i.e. don't copy 4gb files while running it ;)02:06
Semidiosokay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..02:06
LjLerisco: being SATA rather than IDE, most likely.02:06
eriscoLjL, just have chat running02:06
eriscoLjL, ah yes I believe it is a SATA02:06
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Flanneleg2: I have no idea.  What that might've done is made a user with that name, which is where your stuff is (different than the user youre on currently)02:06
eriscoLjL, so since I am doing 100gig blocks it will do this 200 times?02:07
LjLerisco: yes (1 gig, not 100 gig)02:07
orinSo, Gutsy will come out soon. Will it break a lot of stuff with AppArmor?02:07
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LjLerisco: if you had partitions on it, you could test the single partitions and make it quicker.02:07
eriscoLjL, yes, 1 gig hehe. What? you didn't think I had a 2TB drive?02:07
Flannelorin: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions, thanks.02:07
LjLerisco: ;)02:07
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eriscoLjL, I will be here all night with only 1gb blocks02:07
searaymancan somone help me with usign webrunner?02:08
eriscoLjL, I am only on 802:08
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LjLerisco, i'm on 6. but even if we increase the block size, i doubt it will take any shorter.02:08
eriscoLjL, all I want is the start of the drive then the end of the drive02:08
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eg2Flannel: damnit. is it possible to recover the files in it? i had some vacation pictures in it that i dont want to loose!02:08
joshhuntso i just installed the beta of ubuntu 7.10 and the updater tool thing pops up and tells me that i have a mountain load of updates to do. when the updater opens up, it tells me "Not all updates can be installed. Run a partial update, to install as many possilbe" etc, it then lists reasons why thawt might be the case02:08
eriscoLjL, I just want a smooth general line between the two02:08
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LjLerisco: unfortunately that isn't possible unless you first create two partitions, one at the start and one at the end02:09
eriscoLjL, I have a 120GB partition at the end02:09
LjLerisco: still a bit big02:09
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Mr_SiebelHow do I open my iptables?02:09
eriscoLjL, and I still cannot figure out how to get windows to use that free unpartitioned space02:09
joshhuntwhen i go to do the partial update, it brings up a disto upgrade box, and starts doing that... should i go throgh with that or apply the updates the normal way02:09
searaymancan somoen help me with usign webrunner, i cont figure it out02:09
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LjLerisco, i don't know about that02:10
Pelojoshhunt, gutsy is still in beta , so unless you want the beta don'T upgrade the distro yet02:10
amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:10
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joshhuntokies, thanks02:11
LjLerisco: let me see if we can use a trick with 'dd' instead02:11
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eriscoLjL, I am depressed because if it is impossible I have to reformat entirely again02:11
joshhuntso the distro upgrade will 'downgrade' it to 7.04?02:11
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Pelojoshhunt,  the distro upgrade will upgrade to gutsy02:12
amiono one knows?02:12
mguezuragaI have a amd x2 4400, with 2 gb of RAM, basic services started, and gnome takes "a lot of time" to draw the desktop and finish loading. What can cause this? (ubuntu 64 bits)02:12
joshhuntbut ive already got gutsy02:12
joshhuntthe beta of it02:12
Pelojoshhunt, if you are already running one of the gutsy alphas ( tribes)  I guess you will get upgraded to the latest beta but you should ask in #ubuntu+1 about that02:12
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searaymancan somoen help me with webrunner?02:13
eriscoLjL, any luck02:13
joshhuntno, im pretty sure ive got the beta02:13
enigma_ewhi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...02:13
LjLerisco: i'm reading the man, but yes, i think so02:13
joshhuntill ask in #ubuntu+1 then...02:13
amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:13
Peloamio, check in synaptic02:13
acid-tripmysqltcl 3.03 <-- does anyone know when that is gonna be released into packages?02:13
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amioPelo but in synaptic which program already downloaded few but not editors02:14
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Peloacid-trip, if it is a different version ( as oppose to an update) with the next distro02:14
acid-trip:/02:14
Flannelacid-trip: It'll be in Hardy02:14
Flannelor, should be.02:14
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Peloamio, that's all i have for you , try checking on www.getdeb.net02:15
acid-tripi wonder if i could build it from source02:15
dockoi just added a new user to my FF ubuntu server and i disabled user root, but it didn't create new user's home directory and sudo does absolutely nothing.... what can i do now? i have only ssh access to the server02:15
acid-tripi need it for one of my tcl scripts02:15
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Peloacid-trip, then go ahead and build it ,  just google for the source02:15
Flannelacid-trip: ACtually, it's already in feisty.02:15
eriscoLjL, I am on 33 and the results are still the same02:15
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joshhunthow can i check for what version im running?02:16
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_RomanI have an ssh connection from one ubuntu machine to another with X forwarding enabled.  Is it possible to send a window that is running on the remote machine to my local machine (this is a window/process that is already running on the remote machine)02:16
LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10           <- to see how fast the *beginning* of the drive is (reads 1Gb of data)02:16
Pelojoshhunt,  the first tab of the system monitor in the admin menu02:16
joshhuntof ubuntu via cli?02:16
Flanneljoshhunt: lsb_release -a02:16
usr13joseaa, lsb_release -a02:16
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amiois there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??02:16
usr13sorry that was for joshhunt  not joseaa02:17
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enigma_ewhi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...02:17
Flannelacid-trip: No, I guess it's not.  Date of update is wrong. but, 02 to 03 is a bugfix, you should talk to the package maintainer, and get it updated.02:17
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joshhuntthanks XD02:17
Peloenigma_ew, ask in #compis-fusion or in #ubuntu-effects02:17
acid-trip...02:17
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acid-tripFlannel, how do i find out who the manager is02:17
acid-trip:/02:17
enigma_ewPelo: THNX02:18
eg2how do i get youtube videos to work in firefox?02:18
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LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 seek=1800   <- to see how fast the *end* of the drive is (the "1800" is for "start after 100mb*1800", which should be around 180gb -- i'm not making that 200, because i suppose that is the size in decimal gigabytes)02:18
Pelo!flash | eg202:18
ubotueg2: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:18
shkdoes the update manager delete the old versions of the things it updates?  or is my hard drive slowly dwindling away?02:18
eriscoLjL, 17.6s02:18
Peloshk, deleted02:18
acid-trip!mysqltcl02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mysqltcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:18
eriscoLjL, sorry, 17.402:18
shkPelo, is there any other maintenance i should be doing?02:18
Pelo!info mysqltcl | acid-trip02:18
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ubotuacid-trip: mysqltcl: Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.02-1 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 116 kB02:18
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shkdefrag, clearing temp files, etc ?02:19
orangeflyi was accessing a windows machine just fine until i plugged it in instead of wireless....can anyone help....???....02:19
LjLerisco: sorry that last command is wrong02:19
usr13shk, No, just enjoy.02:19
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amioany one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)02:19
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searaymanwebrunner help anyoen i am stuck......02:19
Flannelacid-trip: It's in the package details (in synaptic) or apt-cache show [package] 02:19
Peloshk,  sudo apt-get autoclean    and also check in synaptic,  use the status display(lower left) to see if there are any packages that you can safely remove02:19
eriscoLjL, it gave me 17.5s anyways02:19
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wastrelis there a better terminal for mac os than er02:20
shkok thank you02:20
usr13shk, Linux  pretty much takes care of itself02:20
Peloamio,  did you check in getdeb.net ?02:20
eriscoLjL, how do I correct that last one02:20
wastrel"terminal"02:20
LjLerisco: yeah but it's still checking the *beginning* of the drive again, so it's unsurprising it gives about the same value02:20
shki just feel bad not doing anything02:20
shki feel like i should be checking something02:20
shkkeeping it clean02:20
shketx02:20
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amioPelo nothing there is only pdfeditor and Ihave it it doesnt work good02:20
LjLerisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 skip=1800      <--- skip not seek02:20
LjLthis should be it02:20
wastrelpdfedit02:20
Peloshk,   you need the #windows-withdrawl channel02:20
acid-tripFlannel, how hard is it to take a source and make a quick deb out of it?02:20
shklmao02:21
usr13shk  You're experiencing the freedom we talk about when we brag about Linux.02:21
shki suppose i am02:21
eriscoLjL, HOLY ****02:21
eriscoLjL, 30.9s02:21
usr13Pelo, ha ha... yea prolly so...02:21
shkbut surely defragmenting is necessary?02:21
LjLerisco: some difference, you see.02:21
shkfor any hard drive...02:21
eriscoLjL, that is almost double02:21
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Peloshk,   no defrag needed in ext302:21
usr13shk, No, do fragmentation either.02:21
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LjLerisco: although, i cannot guarantee that there aren't any 'dd' artifacts at work there. it'd really be better to spend the time with zcav, to be sure.02:22
usr13shk, No, fragmentation either.02:22
Peloshk,   you can actualy enjoy your computer now ,  just go with it02:22
shkhaha02:22
shkincredible :o02:22
tdizzywhen im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?02:22
usr13shk, Just enjoy the ride.02:22
Peloshk,  if you realy want to do something you cna install fancontrol , and stuff like that   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty02:22
shknah, i use a laptop02:23
Peloshk,  basicaly  ....  don't worry,  be happy02:23
shkkinda excessive02:23
shk:D02:23
shkfantastic.02:23
shkwhere do i pay?02:23
shk:P02:23
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usr13Just use my paypal account  :)02:23
Peloshk,  no need for that either but you can send donations on the site, or to any linux or FOSS  org you want02:24
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shkwonderful02:24
davidthedrakeOccasionally my computer becomes unresponsive - that is to say I can move the mouse around but cannot interact with anything open on the desktop. It appears happen randomly for no particular reason. Has anyone else experienced this and/or heard of a solution for this?02:24
shkthanks again guys02:24
usr13shk,  Yes, seriously, you can donate to any of your favorite projects.02:24
tdizzywhen im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?02:24
usr13but that's optional.02:24
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davidthedrakeOh, and it unfreezes after about 15-30 seconds.02:24
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scguy318tdizzy: wut errors specifically?02:24
unagianyone here use maya?02:25
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Pelodavidthedrake,  several ppl have mentionned something likethat,  I've experienced similar on rare occasion , usualy FF related02:25
varustahubuntu is my love02:25
LjLerisco: on my drive, which is 160gb, i get 18 seconds for the first gb, and 34 seconds for the 150th gigabyte02:25
abatshyhi02:25
joshhunt!pastebuckey02:25
ravCan anyone help me, im looking for a update for my VGA driver. But i cannot tell what VGA i have, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebuckey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
joshhunt!pastebucket02:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebucket - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:25
abatshyhi every 102:25
joshhunt!paste02:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:25
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davidthedrakePelo, a friend of mine reported that switching from the 64-bit install to the 32-bit install stopped this behavior, are you running 64-bit?02:26
eriscoLjL, I'll kill windows if I put it at the end. that is what I know now anyways02:26
amioany one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)02:26
Pelorav, why do you think you need to update your vga driver ?02:26
wastrelamio: no such thing.02:26
acid-tripFlannel, can u answer me?02:26
eriscoLjL, well thanks for your help02:26
vmlinuz`is KDE stable for ubuntu?02:26
abatshyhu02:26
abatshyhi02:26
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, Yes02:26
Pelodavidthedrake,  no ,  x86, in my case I'm fairly certain it's ff related and it is very rare, so I don'T fret about it02:27
cafuegovmlinuz`: As stable as for any other distro, sure.02:27
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: Thanks.02:27
varustahpdfcreator02:27
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, There is even kubuntu which is a version with KDE by default instead of Gnome02:27
vmlinuz`but whats the default WM for ubuntu?02:27
tdizzywell the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.02:27
ravbecause, i was speaking with some gents in winehq channel, and im having a problem with my warcraft III installation, and he said i should update my VGA02:27
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LjLerisco: one thing, remember that this is *linear* reading speed02:27
LjLerisco: i.e. we're reading contiguous bytes02:27
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Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, Gnome, but there is also Kubuntu and Xubuntu ( KDE and XFCE )02:27
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RedEyessHi02:27
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: a whole distro just to make KDE default? Doesn't make sens >_<02:27
RedEyessI have a laptop with SATA02:28
davidthedrakePelo, rgr that. Yea, it seems to be a fairly frequent thing for me. I noticed that updating to the latest kernel build did make it happen less frequently, but it still occurs nonetheless. I guess I will search elsewhere for a solution. Thanks though ;)02:28
searaymanweb runner anyone?02:28
cafuegovmlinuz`: Metacity actually, which is the Gnome wm.02:28
eriscoLjL, so real read time is obviously worse02:28
RedEyesshow do I get the hard drive to be faster?02:28
decayif i 'upgrade' to the beta, will i lose files in my ~ dir?02:28
LjLerisco: if we were jumping around (which is what really happens, mostly, when you use a disk "for real"), we would probably see much less difference, since much - probably most - of the time would be spent in seeking02:28
wastrelamio: /win 402:28
Pelorav, what release are you running ?02:28
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, It also uses QT apps by default02:28
wastrelnvm02:28
cafuegoRedEyess: linera accelerator or rail gun02:28
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: whats QT?02:28
LjLerisco: yes, read read time is worse, but the difference between beginning and end is lesser02:28
Pelodavidthedrake, in your shoes I would give the forum a quick search02:28
ravUbuntu fiesty02:28
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, It's not really a different distro, just a different set of default applications02:28
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: ah ok02:28
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vmlinuz`Jordan_U: will be a Kubuntu in the new UBUNTU?02:29
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, No02:29
vmlinuz`Jordan_U: why02:29
cafuegoRedEyess: In other words: you can't really make disks be faster. You could buy a faster disk or use raid02:29
scguy318vmlinuz`: of course02:29
scguy318vmlinuz`: well, lemme check02:29
Pelorav, I honestly don'T know how you would go about changing the vga driver , all that needs updating should have been02:29
RedEyessok02:30
Jordan_Uvmlinuz`, There are no plans to make KDE default at the moment02:30
Pelorav,  try doing a search in the www.ubuntufourms.org02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: well, theres gonna be a nice Kubuntu 7.1002:30
Pelowww.ubuntuforums.org02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: but KDE default won't be happening02:30
scguy318vmlinuz`: in Ubuntu02:30
acid-trip:/02:37
cafuegoLinus says it's the law!02:37
RedEyessi install Ubuntu previously02:37
RedEyess7.0402:37
amiowastrel how to get that?02:37
tdizzyscguy318: well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.02:37
RedEyessand it was working fast02:37
ravcan you look at my glxinfo and tell me what vga i got?02:37
Flannelacid-trip: To make a personal deb, use checkinstall.02:37
vmlinuz`scguy318: ok thanks.02:37
Flannel!checkinstall | acid-trip02:37
ubotuacid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!02:37
RedEyessnow that I have reinstalled for some reason it is much slower02:37
RedEyessafter two reinstalls02:37
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RedEyesscould it be an IO problem02:37
acid-tripi want mysqltcl3.0302:37
acid-trip:/02:37
vmlinuz`thing is "I'm now in KDE" and CS freezes quiet alot in kde.. in gnome it never happens >_<02:37
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Why was your home directory not owned by you?02:37
tdizzyidk...02:37
ravhttp://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html02:37
tdizzyumm02:37
tdizzyi accidently deleted and restored the partition02:37
scguy318!checkinstall | acid-trip02:37
tdizzyand fixed the GRUB02:37
scguy318tdizzy: chmod 0777 your home?02:37
ubotuacid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!02:37
usr13Red_Tide, Show us your partition scheme.02:37
tdizzyand upon the first boot after that i got that error02:37
tdizzyumm from what?02:37
`DayWalkeri install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?02:37
usr13RedEyess, , Show us your partition scheme.02:37
Pelo!enter | RedEyess02:37
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ubotuRedEyess: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:37
Pelo!grub |02:37
Pelo!grub | `DayWalker02:37
Peloubotu,  on a break again ?02:37
usr13RedEyess, Paste it to pastebin02:37
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acid-trip========================= Installation results ===========================02:37
acid-tripmake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.02:37
briganwhat was that doc bar again02:37
vmlinuz`scguy318: do you think CSS freez alot cuz im in KDE?02:37
scguy318maybe the IRC server is02:37
scguy318i cant seem to whois02:37
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acid-tripcheckinstall wont make me the package02:37
acid-trip:/02:37
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LjL!netsplit02:41
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit02:41
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acid-tripwb02:41
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wastrelhi02:42
acid-tripFlannel, so any ideas?02:42
acid-tripcheckinstall fails02:42
usr13RedEyess, If you've sent the link once, sorry, I missed it.  Please send again.02:42
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wa77sshow can i make vlc the default application for all media files without right clicking every different file type?02:43
RedEyesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39333/02:43
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wa77ssanyone know?02:44
tdizzyJordan_U: i got the same error when i tried to boot again...02:44
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Did you run "chmod -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername" ?02:44
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tdizzyyeah02:45
tdizzyhmm02:45
tdizzynot chmod02:45
wa77sshello?02:45
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tdizzyi ran chown02:45
tdizzylol02:45
tdizzyoops02:45
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Jordan_Utdizzy, Sorry, it should be chown02:45
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wastrelzom02:45
wastrelg02:45
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Jordan_Utdizzy, You ran the correct command if you ran chown02:45
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tdizzyoh ok02:45
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usr13wa77ss, Go to one of the files in the file manager, right click on it, click properties and change the default application used to open the file.02:45
unagihow can i run archive manager with root access?02:46
Jordan_Utdizzy, can you pastebin the exact error again ( can't scroll up because of the netsplit :)02:46
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unagii would like to extract files in a restricted folder =/02:46
wa77ssusr13, ya, but i have to do that with every single different file type02:46
astro76unagi, gksudo file-roller02:46
wa77ssisnt there a simple way for ALL media files02:46
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tdizzyok02:46
tdizzy!pastebin02:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:47
unagity02:47
Jordan_Uwa77ss, What are you trying to do?02:47
tdizzylol02:47
unagihow can i set file-roller to use gksudo every time i open an archive?02:47
wa77ssjust make vlc default audio/video player for all file types02:47
taime1can someone help mecan anyone help me get my sound working?02:47
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RedEyessI will be back in 502:47
HealthyElijahi know02:48
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tim167taime1, in which program ?02:48
wa77ssi thought there would be a simple way, i dont want to right click on every different file type you know02:48
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Jordan_Uunagi, I wouldn't make it do that every time, but in the "open with" properties add the custom command "gksudo file-roller"02:48
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taime1tim167: i have no sound at all...02:48
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taime1ubuntu refuses to recognize this sound card02:49
umop-apisdnanyone familiar with remote x servers? i'm running xming on my windows box, and want to run firefox on the linux box to remove the possiblity of exploits02:49
Jordan_Uwa77ss, There is a way to do that, forget how though.02:49
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wa77ssahah i think i came across it02:49
wa77ssa script, but it doesnt work for me02:49
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acid-trip:/02:49
acid-trippiss me of02:49
acid-trip8Off02:49
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Hubris2Trying to get MSN messenger going through Moblock is driving me nuts.  I can connect (using Pidgin) only if I choose 'http', and then all outgoing messages fail.  What ports are needed?02:49
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, ssh -X ?02:49
acid-tripcan't get this thing to work02:49
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umop-apisdnJordan_U: i'm using putty for the ssh02:50
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tim167taime1 what does 'lspci | grep audio' say ?02:50
wa77ssmaybe you can figure out how to make it work, heres the link - http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4056002:50
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umop-apisdnsupposedly, i can export DISPLAY=(local ip):0 and make it work02:50
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, That is not secure02:50
usr13wa77ss, No,   you do it for each file type.02:50
umop-apisdnJordan_U: why not? (not attacking, seeking info)02:50
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taime1tim167: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)02:51
FFighterhey folks02:51
tim167taime1, can you run alsamixer ?02:51
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usr13Hey FFighter02:51
wa77ssusr13, kk, thats the hard way but it works. thanks02:51
FFightersomething like autohotkey for linux?02:51
taime1tim167: nope02:51
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taime1tim167: says no device02:51
FFighterautohotkey is really handy and flexible02:51
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PeloFFighter, check in synaptic02:52
acid-tripchecking for correct TEA configuration... ok (TEA 3.5)02:52
acid-tripchecking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions02:52
FFighterPelo, for what?02:52
taime1tim167: also, my modules WERE loaded, then after some tinkering, they disappeared02:52
tdizzyJordan_U: k got both error messages02:52
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PeloFFighter,  hotkey02:52
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FFighterPelo, hmmm is it a port?02:52
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tdizzyJordan_U: first i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/02:52
acid-tripanyway to define where the tcl config files are?02:52
wastrelautohotkey02:52
PeloFFighter, I'm not sayingthere is anything,  just do a search for hotkey and see what is available if anything02:52
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tim167taime1, hmm sorry I dont really know then...02:53
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Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, http://meshier.com/docs/oreilly/tcpip2/ssh/ch09_03.htm02:53
FFighterPelo, nothing02:53
lucashungaroCan I open a .rar file compressed in Windows with Ubuntu? I'm getting an error.02:53
FFighterPelo, do you know autohotkey?02:53
Hubris2Anyone have experince getting MSN(Pidgin/Gaim) going through firewalls in general?02:54
alex116is there a channel dedicated to using linux as a router?02:54
usr13lucashungaro, Yes02:54
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PeloFFighter, a linux equivalent may not have the same name,  just seach for hotkey and read the definitions02:54
taime1why doesnt alsa recognize my sound card??02:54
astro76lucashungaro, install unrar, then the archive manager can handle it02:54
RedEyessusr13: any thoughts?02:54
Hubris2lucashungaro: Archive Manager can open .rar02:54
FFighterPelo, yes I know but nothing relevant cam02:54
FFightercame02:54
FFighteranyway02:54
FFighterthanks02:54
PeloFFighter, also try  www.getdeb.net02:54
lucashungaroIt's saying that it's an unsupported package type02:55
Pelotaime1,  look up your soundcard model in the forum and in here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport    www.ubuntuforums.org02:55
umop-apisdnJordan_U: my linux machine will be the router/gateway for my LAN, so i don't think that's an issue02:55
umop-apisdnJordan_U: but thank you very much for the info02:55
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usr13lucashungaro, apt-get install unrar02:56
Jordan_Utdizzy, OK, now try running this ( it really is supposed to be chmod this time ) "chmod 644 /home/yourusername/.dmrc"02:56
Peloalex116, try in #networking02:56
lucashungaroOk, I'm installing unrar with Synaptic02:56
RedEyessI have a new laptop02:56
lucashungarousr13: Thanks02:56
usr13RedEyess, I don't see any swap partitions for one thing.  How much memory does your system have?02:56
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RedEyess1.5 gigs02:56
RedEyessthere should a swap drive partition02:57
Jordan_Uumop-apisdn, The easiest thing to do would probably be to open an xterm and just run "ssh -X username@ip"02:57
lucashungaroHow can I write files into my Windows partition?02:57
Jordan_U!ntfs-3g | lucashungaro02:57
Pelo!ntfs-3g | lucashungaro02:57
ubotulucashungaro: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:57
RedEyesshuh02:57
RedEyessit's on /dev/sda502:57
usr13RedEyess, You say you have installed 2 times now?02:57
lucashungaroOk, thank you very much guys02:57
tim167taime1: there is also an #alsa channel...02:57
leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:57
RedEyess3 times02:57
RedEyesshow do I mount the swap drive then?02:58
PeloRedEyess, did you let the installer do the partitionnning or did you do it manualy ?02:58
RedEyessdo I put that in /etc/fsab02:58
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RedEyessmanually02:58
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RedEyessyes, I am a fool!02:58
leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:58
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PeloRedEyess, not a fool just uninformed02:58
tdizzyJordan_U: i ran that command but i get the very same error02:58
h1st0RedEyess: why isn't your swap mounted?02:58
RedEyessnot sure02:58
coreyodoes anyone have a successful mod-mon + apache set up using the feisty packages?  I'm having the following problem: http://monoport.com/488402:58
Hubris2Anyone ever fought with a firewall and getting MSN to connect?  I can connect, but get 'connection refused' on all outgoing messages02:59
lostwrxirc://irc.abjects.net/04502:59
thesaint4444LjL: any idea why i should not be able to ssh into my box after adding my drive to the fstab and rebooting?02:59
RedEyesshow do I set this up at this point without a reinstall?02:59
h1st0RedEyess: are you sure that it isn't?02:59
Peloh1st0,  cause he didn't make one02:59
h1st0!fstab > RedEyess02:59
h1st0!mount > RedEyess02:59
Flannel!swap | RedEyess02:59
ubotuRedEyess: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:59
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leladiapls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`02:59
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FlannelThat's what you really want.02:59
RedEyessright02:59
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usr13RedEyess, You issued command   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda6  when you should have issued command    fdisk -l /dev/sda02:59
Peloleladia, why don'T you just try it out and see if it works02:59
h1st0leladia: sure why note02:59
RedEyessok03:00
RedEyesslet me try again03:00
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leladiai have tried it out but i get some error messages at the beginning before the final output03:00
usr13RedEyess, You installed 2 times now?   Why?  What happened the first time?03:00
PeloRedEyess, for the simple way I suggest you install and use the guided partitionning03:00
leladiawhich shows that the command is not too alright03:00
LjLthesaint4444: because you messed up the fstab format and the system didn't boot? because you mounted it on /home without having copied the contents of /home there first?03:00
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leladiai just want to knw what i am missing out03:00
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imperfect-Anyone know how I completely remove apache and apache2 from my system?03:01
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RedEyessrepasted.03:01
leladiaor what other way i could write it to stop the error messages at the beginning03:01
RedEyessplease refresh03:01
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usr13RedEyess, Oh, I see,  /dev/sda5  is swap  (sorry, didn't see that before.)03:01
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leladiah1st0: pls can u help me out?03:02
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h1st0leladia: shouldn't it be lastcomm | grep $user | grep $date03:02
RedEyesshowever, swap is showing in my /etc/fstab file03:02
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leladialet me try that and see03:03
h1st0leladia: you forgot the first |03:03
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thesaint4444LjL: hi, no I just tried to mount one of the other drives, i partioned it, formated it, made a directory called /data1, edited the fstab to /dev/sdb1 /data1 auto 1 2 and then rebooted..03:03
h1st0leladia: and grep `date` or whatever4 you were trying.03:03
RickXdul boot question: I'd like to install Ubuntu in dual boot to test it out. How do I keep it from overwriting my present Grub?03:03
RedEyessso this should be explaining my slow times03:03
imperfect-Jesus03:03
imperfect-why is this so hard03:03
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imperfect-What's it take to get apache2.conf written from a deb?03:03
thesaint4444LjL: cant ssh in now even though the port pings...03:03
imperfect-apt-get install apache2 doesn't install it03:03
imperfect-so wtf03:03
LjLthesaint4444: that fstab line is missing a column03:03
RedEyessdoesn't install wwhat?03:03
jribimperfect-: dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   will tell you why03:04
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astro76RedEyess, type 'free', do you see swap there? swap is not mounted like other filesystems03:04
h1st0!info apache2 | imperfect-03:04
ubotuimperfect-: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB03:04
leladiah1st0: i am using csh and $date is not valid03:04
astro76RedEyess, it's in fstab, but it doesn't show up when you type mount03:04
imperfect-jrib: that package is already installed03:04
imperfect-jrib: and yet, no file03:04
jribimperfect-: purge it and install it again03:04
RedEyessastro76: swap is shown when i type 'free'03:04
astro76RedEyess, then your swap is fine03:05
h1st0leladia: no go back to the way where tyring to do it with `date`  but you were forgetting the first | after lastcom03:05
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usr13RedEyess, dmesg |grep swap03:05
h1st0imperfect-: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache203:05
h1st0imperfect-: sudo apt-get install apache203:05
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Hubris2Anyone familiar with Moblock useage?03:05
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leladiah1st0: okay03:05
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thesaint4444LjL: /dev/sdb1       /data   ext2    defaults        1 2 - thats what i used...03:06
RedEyessusr13: posted again03:06
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thesaint4444LjL - think thats ok?03:06
leladiah1st0: it didn't work03:06
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LjLthesaint4444: ah that's better, yes... i can't understand why it wouldn't boot. that says /data though, you said the directory was /data1?03:06
LjLthesaint4444: (besides, why aren't you using ext3?)03:07
thevare there any programs for syncing up directories?03:07
h1st0leladia: okay try it one part at a time.03:07
usr13RedEyess, Send link.03:07
h1st0leladia: lastcomm | grep $user03:07
Jordan_Uthev, rsync03:07
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h1st0leladia: see if you get coutput03:07
thesaint4444LJL: yeah data1 sorry i mistyped...03:07
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RedEyesshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/03:07
thevThanks Jordan_U - I'll check it out03:07
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thesaint4444LjL: yeah i used ext3 aswell...03:07
LjLthesaint4444: you had formatted the partition of course?03:07
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RedEyessthe wierd thing that once I am logged in, after 5 minutes, the response time is alot better03:08
thesaint4444LjL: yes..03:08
LjLthesaint4444: i really don't know, it looks fine to me03:08
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unagican someone goto unreal.com and tell me if it loads for you03:08
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unagiall i get is a white block on a black background and i cant figure out why03:08
usr13RedEyess, Everything looks ok, far as I can tell.03:09
RedEyesshmmm03:09
thesaint4444LjL: partioned then formated ...03:09
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JuJuBee_Anybody use squid here?03:09
RedEyessso could it be something to do with a SATA drive under Ubuntu?03:09
Jordan_Utdizzy, Try this just as a stab in the dark, in recovery mode run "touch /forcefsck" then reboot and it should run an fsck ( disk check / repair ) when you boot again, then try logging in again03:09
RedEyessI have used squid before03:09
LjL!nickspam | st33med03:09
ubotust33med: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines03:09
thesaint4444LjL: box pings but i cant ssh in...03:09
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D4N`Hello03:09
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usr13RedEyess, But, you said earlier that you installed 2 times before? Or that you re-installed?  Can you elaborate?03:09
leladiah1st0: this is what i am getting http://rafb.net/p/WLNA1n71.html03:09
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Jordan_Uthesaint4444, Do you have openssh-server installed?03:09
RedEyessI have reinstalled after reformatting the partition03:10
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RedEyessreinstalled twice before03:10
JuJuBee_I got squid running on my server in my classroom.  It has a public IP address.  I want to point my browser from home to it (watch what my daughter is doing).03:10
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JuJuBee_What do i need to do?03:10
kRushunagi, same here03:10
thesaint4444LjL: yes...03:10
RedEyesswhat type of ip is squid running on?03:10
unagioh ok so its on their side maybe?03:10
usr13RedEyess, What was the reason for re-installing 2 times?03:10
h1st0leladia: did you try it with jjust lastcomm | grep $user03:10
LjLthesaint4444, i don't know.03:10
RedEyessI wanted to start from scratch03:10
JuJuBee_currently the internal rfc191803:10
leladiayes i did03:10
RedEyessI have windows also installed on this machine and I don't have problems with it03:11
usr13RedEyess, Are you talking about slow internet access?03:11
leladiaand it worked03:11
Jordan_UJuJuBee_, Have you looked at the proxy settings?03:11
RedEyessnot slow internet access03:11
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Skwid_hey everyone, my laptop keeps shutting down telling me that the critical temperature has been reached, but im not sure if it's a ubuntu problem or a hardware problem, any sugestion ?03:11
LjLthesaint4444: perhaps the partition is really big and it's just running fsck...?03:11
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leladiabut i want to filter out the ones for the current month03:11
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usr13RedEyess, You just mentioned squid... ?03:11
RedEyessit takes a long time for my laptop to boot up03:11
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JuJuBee_Yes, I set it up.  I figure I need to add the allowed network my home computer belongs to.03:11
Jordan_URedEyess, Linux isn't great when it comes to boot speed03:11
usr13RedEyess, Oh, takes long time to boot.03:11
RedEyessI was trying to answer someone else. Two different thigns03:11
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usr13RedEyess, Have you done all your updates?03:12
thesaint4444LjL: does it run fsck when it first starts up?03:12
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RedEyessusr13: yes for the updates03:12
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LjLthesaint4444: shouldn't. really just a hypothesis03:12
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Ice|WorkI'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my string.h and iostream.h aren't to be found. is there an issue w/ the build environment?03:12
thesaint4444LjL: partition was 148 gigs...03:12
usr13RedEyess, It is fully updated?03:12
LjLSkwid_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/4480503:12
eris_hi ubuntu people03:12
RedEyessice:work: have you installed g++03:12
leladiah1st0: i am trying to display all the times a user used the grep command within the current month03:12
RedEyessit is fully updated03:12
Ice|WorkRedEyess: build-essentials right?03:13
Ice|Workbecause g++ is present on the system03:13
JuJuBee_Im guessing I need to open the port on my external nic in IPtables.03:13
RedEyessice|work: that is strange03:13
usr13RedEyess, what does    uname -a     say?03:13
RedEyessand you are doing include <string>03:13
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Ice|WorkRedEyess: of course.03:14
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h1st0leladia: does lastcomm | grep $user work?03:14
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RedEyessLinux spock 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux03:14
leladiah1st0: yes03:14
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usr13RedEyess, What processor(s) do you have in this machine?03:14
RedEyessdual core centrino03:15
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h1st0leladia: well then try something like lastcomm | grep $user > temp.txt03:16
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h1st0leladia: cat temp.txt | grep `date`03:16
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thesaint4444LJL - would a damaged fstab cause that problem?03:16
usr13RedEyess, Well you can poke around at the HD parameters and see if anything looks amiss  (See man hdpram)  but be careful03:16
h1st0leladia: although the double | should be working so there is aparently a problem with grep `date`03:16
usr13hdparm not hdpram03:17
RedEyessdoes hdparm work for SATA drives?03:17
h1st0leladia: anyway i'll be back a lil bit later i'm sure someone else with more knowledge than I could help you out.  You may also want to ask in #linuxhelp or #linux or something.03:17
usr13RedEyess, I do not know.03:17
leladiah1st0: i think u are beginning to understand what i  am saying03:17
RedEyessbecause my computer is seeing the hard drive as scsi device, I think03:17
RedEyessnot hda but sda03:17
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usr13RedEyess,  And I do not know why your system boots slow.... But...03:18
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lumpycamRedEyess - that's normal03:18
RedEyessthat's not normal for this laptop03:18
RedEyessit was able to boot much faser03:18
RedEyessfaster03:18
RedEyessi have disabled my wireless internet03:18
unagiwhy is it that i cannot refresh my wireless list with the default network manager?03:19
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Skwid_at what temperature is a laptop suppose to run ??03:19
lumpycamRedEyess - what does dmesg show, anything in particular?03:19
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RedEyessit says alot in dmesg03:20
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usr13RedEyess, See:  http://hermann.czedik.net/ubuntu_initng.html03:20
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RedEyessbut I don't see any glaring errors03:20
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|rt|anyone know the file that you need to put the mysql root password in so that apt can install databases properly with applications that require them?03:21
r0ssar00has anyone had some bad experiences with dhcp?03:21
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kstgn.03:22
r0ssar00i cant connect to my router in linux through anything, ive always used dhcp03:22
usr13RedEyess, And: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144831&page=1903:22
lumpycam|rt| - it used to be mysqladmin to set root mysql pass.03:22
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Nambrais there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?03:23
r0ssar00i use ifup eth0 to connect and it starts using netmask 255.255.255.255, which is incorrect03:23
usr13lumgwada, Try    sudo dhclient eth003:23
dwxreaperros: you still use dhcp, check ifconfig -a03:23
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|rt|lumpycam: i seem to recall a file that let you put the password in it so that dpkg-reconfigure or what ever part of dpkg/apt would use to setup database stuff03:23
r0ssar00im in windows right now03:23
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RedEyessthanks for the help everyone03:24
|rt|it was somewhere in /etc but I can't find any reference to it on the community docs03:24
usr13lumgwada, or:    /etc/init.d/networking restart      (BTW, is it wired or wireless.)03:24
zymishHello. My husband is an idiot and forgot his password; is there a way for him to bypass the login screen? Or is there a way for him to recover his password?03:24
dwxreaperuse gnome to set the network settings, or delete that app ( i don't like it ) and set change the /etc/networking/interfaces configuration file03:24
r0ssar00wired03:24
|rt|I think it was someone here who pointed me to it the last time03:24
r0ssar00dwxreaper: done that, still won't work03:24
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RedEyessif you have another user on the system you can remove the password from /etc/shadow03:24
SkaryHas anyone had an issue with the install cd not configuring grub properly, with a seporate /boot partition?03:24
eris_zymish: yes there is a way03:24
jribzymish: do you have your account with the ability to sudo?03:24
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RedEyessand then have you reset the password03:24
dino_System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager <-- if i cant find any restricted drivers for my ati card there, does it mean i cannot use compiz fusion/beryl?03:24
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dwxreaperross: paste your interfaces configuration file03:25
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|rt|zymish: are there any accounts in the admin group on the system that you know the passwords for?03:25
zymishJust the one account.03:25
r0ssar00dwx reaper: see the default, but with the netmask 255.255.255.003:25
jrib!password > zymish (read the private message from ubotu)03:25
zymishI'm on a different computer.03:25
r0ssar00dwx: im in windows right now03:25
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lumpycam|rt| - i'm not aware of that. 'do' set the mysqladmin rule should still be correct.03:25
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dwxreaperros: well i would need that to help you03:25
|rt|lumpycam: ok I'll give it a go thanks03:25
r0ssar00dwx: brb03:25
eris_zymish: you can boot using the ubuntu desktop disk and modify /etc/passwd by mounting the hard disk in question03:25
dwxreaperbut restart the networking services /etc/init.d/networking restart03:25
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usr13<r0ssar00>  can you ping the router?03:25
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r0ssar00dwx: k03:26
r0ssar00usr13: no03:26
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jribzymish: erm, just realized that may not be enough info.  Boot into recovery mode (choice at the grub menu) and then issue the following command:  passwd YOUR_USERNAME03:26
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|rt|zymish: you can boot into recovery mode and should be able to reset the password using passwd <username>03:26
dwxreaperros: you do not have mac-address filtering enabled on your router right03:26
Nambrais there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?03:26
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usr13  <r0ssar00>  Did you try:  /etc/init.d/networking restart03:26
cypher1r0ssar00, is your routing table looks good ?03:27
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leladiapls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'03:28
leladiapls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'03:29
taxmanis there a way to choose a name for the pdf file when printing to cups-pdf?03:29
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etzerdhello all03:29
etzerd?03:29
taxmanhello03:29
usr13r0ssar00,  Restart network and watch for errors:  sudo /etc/init.d networking restart   or try    sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop    and then   sudo /etc/init.d/networking start03:29
etzerdis it safe to install ubuntu 7.10 beta in my system now?03:29
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usr13r0ssar00  and watch for errors.03:30
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zymishHis computer is now saying "grub loding, please wait" for a moment, then it says "error 24". -shrug- I think it's just a piece of crap in addition to him forgetting his password.03:30
etzerdlast time I installed it I did not have the option to choose the operating system that I want to use e.i windows or ubuntu03:30
cypher1leladia, isnt it already showing like that ?03:30
taxmanetzerd: not if it's an important system03:30
pinkeyHow do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.03:30
taxmanetzerd: if you keep your Windows partition and install Ubuntu with grub you'll have that option03:31
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cypher1leladia, try date +%b03:31
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etzerdTaxman: I did but still when the system boot up ubuntu came up automaticly.03:32
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orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:32
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zymishAs soon as he can get it working, he'll reset the password. Thank you, jrib and |rt|.03:32
taxmanetzerd: do you have the OS's on differen't hd's? Either way, it looks like now you'll need to configure grub03:33
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leladiacypher1: u are the 'man'03:33
leladiathanks03:33
tompouceHi!03:33
cypher1leladia, you are welcome03:33
taxmanetzerd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29 or the real grub docs linked there should help you03:33
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cypher1!hi tompouce03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi tompouce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:34
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tompouceHey, I want to test KDE4, I downloaded every kde4 package, and now I wonder how do I boot on KDE4? It isn't in the session list thingie... Could you help me?03:34
etzerdthanks taxman.03:34
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taxmannp03:34
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leladiacypher1: it means i have more questions for u, so keep the line open... :)03:34
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r0ssar00dwx: here it is auto lo03:34
r0ssar00iface lo inet loopback03:34
r0ssar00auto eth003:34
r0ssar00iface eth0 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto eth103:34
r0ssar00iface eth1 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto eth203:34
cypher1leladia, sure03:34
r0ssar00iface eth2 inet dhcp03:34
r0ssar00auto ath003:34
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orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:34
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luk1hey03:35
sircharle1How do I find out my cpu type i.e. ppc, i38603:35
taxmandoes anyone know of a pdf printing option where you can choose the filename to save as?03:35
etzerdrightnow I have windows Vista and OpenSuse 10.3 RC1 install. I'm going to uninstall Suse 10.3 RC1 to try out the latest beta version of ubuntu.03:35
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|rt|sircharle1: what type of computer do you have?03:35
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tonyyarussosircharle1: cat /proc/cpuinfo will help03:35
sircharle1toshiba satellite03:35
|rt|sircharle1: then you have i38603:35
dwxreaperros: no ip addresses with ifconfig -a  | more ?03:35
blankReghi all03:35
sircharle1kk thnx03:35
usr13<r0ssar0:  Still not connecting?03:35
dwxreaperwdo you know what nic, is the nic you want to get the dhcp addy03:35
cypher1tompouce, not sure but you can try run the command kdm03:35
|rt|sircharle1: ppc is pretty much just older Apple computers these days as far as laptops and desktop's go03:36
usr13r0ssar00:  You might try rebooting the router.  (Routing tables may be a bit scrambled).03:36
|rt|sircharle1: ibm still uses alot of ppc in their server stuff as well03:36
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r0ssar00dwx: did you get that?03:37
NateBerkopechey all, how do I run a shell script in a folder when using sudo? I'm getting "command not found"03:37
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dwxreaperros: yes I replied03:37
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r0ssar00didnt get the reply, paste booted me03:37
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zymishDoes anyone know what Error 24 and 25 are? He can't get into the GRUB now because of those.03:38
NateBerkopeci.e. (sudo ./shellscript.sh), why doesnt this work? how to get around?03:38
dwxreaperare you getting an ip address at all: ifconfig -a | more03:38
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r0ssar00nope03:38
dwxreaperwhat nic is supposed to get an address, does it show an up status, ethernet wise03:38
usr13r0ssar00, Yes, you need to use pastebin.03:38
dwxreaperross: you can use ethtool , to see if your link is up, has a light on the back of the nic03:38
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r0ssar00eth0 gets the address, when i do ifup twice, it says its already up03:38
r0ssar00oh, the link is up, just not getting an ip03:39
dino_Anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56444503:39
r0ssar00trust me, i checked the cables03:39
leladiacypher1: ur help has unlocked the problematic door of my assignment which is to display all the instances a $user used a particular command within the current month.  so what i have done is: lastcomm 'command' $user | grep `date +%b` where 'command' is the command u are looking for.  thanks a million03:39
usr13r0ssar00, ifconfig eth0  does not show an IP address?03:39
mindrapeNateBerkopec - you could put the shell script in /usr/local/bin and chmod +x it and just sudo shellscript.sh03:39
dwxreaperross: ethtool "interface" , see if the link is up at proper speed / duplex (not that it's your problem)03:39
r0ssar00correct03:39
pinkeyHow do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.03:39
Jordan_Upinkey, What GPU?03:39
mindrapepinkey - you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:39
r0ssar00brb, gotta try some more commands03:39
usr13r0ssar00, Did you try restarting the router?03:39
dwxreaperross: verify that is the nic that is connected to your router, eth003:40
r0ssar00yep, and yep03:40
cypher1leladia, cool.. enjoy03:40
sanzanricyou could just put "sudo"  as the first line of the script03:40
dwxreaperros: uninstall that gnome network manager thing it sucks03:40
r0ssar00and so i will brb03:40
sanzanricget wicd03:40
dwxreaperross: just change the configuration file03:40
Jordan_Umindrape, Not necessarily, pinkey may just need the right drivers03:40
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r0ssar00and i will uninstall it03:40
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dwxreaperross: yeah it causes problems03:41
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mindrapeJordan_U - well if they have the wrong driver that is going to need to be updated in xorg.conf as well as the resolution options...03:41
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dwxreaperit doesn't interoperate well when you manually change the configuration03:41
pinkeyJordan_ I'm trying to determine the GPU.  It's a sony Vaio if that helps.03:41
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usr13r0ssar00, You could just use static IP.  Try a static IP, (one that is not being used and is not in the dhcp pool) and put dns addresses in /etc/resolv.conf03:42
DevourerOk.03:42
DevourerWhat do I use to burn and ISO file onto a CD?03:42
pinkeyJordan_U, its Intel? GM965 Express Chipset03:42
Devoureran*03:42
sanzanricsystem>preference>devices look for you gpu03:42
Jordan_Umindrape, Not if they use restricted manager03:42
Jordan_U!resolution | pinkey03:42
ubotupinkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:42
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cypher1!burn | Devourer03:43
ubotuDevourer: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto03:43
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Ice|WorkI'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my <string> and <iostream> aren't to be found. Any clue what might be going on?03:43
Jordan_Upinkey, Try switching to the "intel" driver as described on that page03:43
Devourercypher1: Thank you.03:43
JamesinatorI have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.03:43
cypher1Devourer, you are welcome03:43
orangeflycan someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....03:43
sanzanricgma965 driver suck03:43
pinkeyJordan_U, thanks, I'll give that a try03:44
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Jordan_UIce|Work, What command gives you what error exactly?03:44
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BUDD}{Acan someone tell me why i am getting no video with any media player or with my tv card03:44
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Ice|Workrunning my source through g++ gives me arraylist.h:17: error: string does not name a type03:45
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emaconlinehello03:46
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IndyGunFreakBUDD}{A: i'd guess your'e doing something wrong... :)..03:46
JamesinatorI have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.03:46
emaconlineanyone can help on running beryl on ubuntu03:46
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cypher1Ice|Work, i think you need libstdc++ dev libraries03:46
zetheroohow do I know that the fglrx drivers are installed on my box?03:46
IndyGunFreak!beryl | emaconline03:46
ubotuemaconline: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:46
BUDD}{Ayea thanks that was very helpful03:46
emaconlinethanks03:46
Ice|Workcypher1: installed build-essentials... and says libstdc++ is installed, i checked already03:46
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IndyGunFreakBUDD}{A:  i strive, only thing less helpful was your explanation03:47
JamesinatorIndyGunFreak: Let's not throw coal on the fire now03:47
IndyGunFreakmoi?03:47
cypher1Ice|Work, what is "dpkg -S iostream" showing for you ?03:47
zetheroois there a command in the terminal to check if the fglrx drivers are installed ?03:47
IndyGunFreaklol03:47
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Ice|Worklibstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/iostream03:48
Ice|Worklibstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/backward/iostream.h03:48
r0ssar00dwx: i have the output of ethtool and its saying the link isn't up, but in windows on the same machine, the link *is* up03:48
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zetheroohow do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?03:48
sexcopterhi, i'm sat here with my wireless keyboard and feeling quite lazy to get up and get the mouse. is there a way to get the applications menu up with the keyboard?03:48
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Jamesinatorquit03:49
OleMoudisexcopter, alt+F103:49
OleMoudior alt+F2 and exec anything03:49
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h1st0!away > cypher103:50
sexcopterOleMoudi: great! thanks03:50
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furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers03:50
r0ssar00any ideas dwx?03:51
delmarPB DONE03:51
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delmarBorg and grobal03:51
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zetheroohow do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?03:52
delmarhelps if i have teh right window clicked..03:52
r0ssar00obviously this is a linux problem03:52
h1st0zetheroo: read the message from ubotu03:52
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danoHey all, my wacom stylus, and external display no longer work.  Any ideas on how to begin to trouble shoot it?03:52
Ice|Workso im guessing no more ideas about these headers and g++ not wanting to compile?03:52
h1st0r0ssar00: what kind of network card are you trying to get to work?03:52
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r0ssar00standard realtek 8139 gigabit, worked 2 days ago03:53
r0ssar00i think its 813903:53
h1st0r0ssar00: yeah should pretty much just work.03:53
r0ssar00i know its 81_903:53
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r0ssar00thing is it work 2 days ago03:53
h1st0r0ssar00: did you try sudo ifup eth(x)03:53
cypher1Ice|Work, you can start debugging by explicitly mentioning the paths to the header files.. but that will be more of C++ than ubuntu i guess03:53
r0ssar00yep03:53
r0ssar00many times03:53
kyjacan we talk beta here now?03:54
r0ssar00many many times03:54
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cypher1kyja, i think #ubuntu+103:54
Flannelkyja: Nope, still #ubuntu+1, until it goes stable03:54
kyjakk thx03:54
furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers03:54
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h1st0kyja: no bug reporting and testing is in #ubuntu+103:54
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cypher1furenku, what does iwconfig say ?03:54
tinman47Heys03:55
nrdbhow do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.03:55
h1st0r0ssar00: is the module for the card getting loaded?03:55
r0ssar00must be, i get an eth0 entry, would i still get that if the module *want* loaded?03:55
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pinkeyJordan_U, thanks I got it working.  Ahh, this is so much nicer.03:55
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tinman47Is there any place where I can get tutorials on Drawing?03:55
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lekuwhere can I get help with gutsy?03:56
Ice|Workcypher1: i just don't understand why it's a "C++" issue. If the stdlibc++ is there, it should see it. but that's just me. :(03:56
Jordan_Utinman47, Drawing what?03:56
Ice|Workcall me crazy or whatnot03:56
Jordan_Uleku, #ubuntu+103:56
tinman47Like anything.03:56
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furenkucypher1, "no wireless extensions" (two times, for lo and eth003:56
tinman47_ develop skills03:56
lekuthanks03:56
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furenku)03:56
pinkeyTo install ubuntu on my laptop was a chore.  The timezone screen was too big, and so the buttons were off the screen and could not be clicked.  The dialog box could not be resized.  I had to hit "tab" enough times to focus on "ok" by counting the right number, mostly by guessing.03:56
Jordan_Utinman47, Using drawing applications or just drawing?03:57
cypher1Ice|Work, i am not sure.. it was just my opinion sorry.. probably some one else will answer you03:57
h1st0r0ssar00: nah what sort of errors are you getting ith the card?03:57
tinman47Anything, like traditional, just to develop skill.03:57
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tinman47Paper and pencil.03:57
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tinman47Just need a link.03:57
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r0ssar00not seeing anything, in dmesg or otherwise, ifup just keeps trying, then sleeps a bit, then tries again, rinse, repeat03:57
cypher1furenku, does the wireless card show in lspci output ?03:57
Jordan_Upinkey, Yea, it really should be made to work at low resolutions ( though most get at least 1024x768 with the LiveCD )03:58
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northeryo03:58
colin_whatup03:58
gregoroviusanybody here uses ktorrent's rss feature and care to explain how to make it work?03:58
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Jordan_Utinman47, This channel is for Ubuntu support, try #ubuntu-offtopic possibly03:58
h1st0r0ssar00: so your not getting an ip?03:58
gregoroviusi'm not getting along with regex03:58
r0ssar00correct03:58
kersinc0#ubuntu-es03:58
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tinman47oh, thanx.03:59
furenkucypher 1, yes,03:59
pinkeyJordan_U, I used live CD but it only went to 800x600.  Just now, however, it's at 1200x800, and is so much more readable.  Thanks again.03:59
h1st0r0ssar00: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces03:59
h1st0r0ssar00: also try using the network-manager applet03:59
r0ssar00itll be in pastebin, gimme a sec03:59
colin_having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both03:59
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colin_anyone have an answer for me?03:59
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r0ssar00pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39343/04:00
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northerok can anyone help me out install steam via wine, im at the part where its asking for a root folder but doesn't want one i guess heh... the winehq area arent talking04:00
kamersHI04:00
Jordan_Upinkey, And for future reference ( though you should never have to do it ) you can move a window by holding option / alt and dragging it04:00
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kamersanyone please04:00
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Jordan_Ukamers, You need to ask a question to get an answer :)04:00
r0ssar00ill be on tomorrow, bout 7 canadian eastern time, i g2g now04:00
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kamersehhehehe sure04:00
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kamersany xorg.conf expert?04:01
h1st0!ask | kamers04:01
ubotukamers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:01
scrimple101Hi everyone, couldn't fix the menu problem - had to do a reinstall after deleting everything, then used Aptoncd, WOW what a great program, saved me heaps of time.04:01
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kamersok then... is there a way to make xorg ignore de "PixClock" maximum (erroneously) detected?04:01
furenkucypher1, yes, its present in lspci04:02
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DevourerGood ol' Ubuntu, making life easy.04:02
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h1st0kamers: remove it from the xorg.conf?  i'm not quite sure what you are trying to do.04:02
scrimple101i'll never try and make it look like a Mac again04:02
kamersi cannot find references or docs for how xorg server deals with the "pixclock" or dotclock parameters04:03
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Jordan_Ukamers, What is pixclock ?04:03
kersinc0#ubuntu-es04:03
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kamersxorg.conf is ok, the sis740 (sis) ok, and monitor ok, but xorg detects erroneously a "60 Hz" maximum for PixClock...04:03
h1st0kamers: maybe wiki.x.org04:03
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open-glsomeone check my post and see if everything is correct04:04
h1st0kamers: you can specify your own values if its wrong04:04
open-glhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3460057#post346005704:04
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ubuntulusershttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg04:04
kamerssee, i cannot specify "dotclocks". or, i can, but xorg server will ignore it on loading of xorg.conf04:04
ubuntulusershi04:04
ubuntulusersthat's my workspace04:04
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h1st0open-gl: looks okay other than you shouldn't have to edit /etc/modules the module should be loaded already04:05
mneptok!offtopic | ubuntulusers04:05
open-glubuntulusers what type of money is that04:05
ubotuubuntulusers: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:05
ubuntulusersopen-gl, euros04:05
h1st0open-gl: and firmware should be extracted to /lib/firmware/`uname -r`04:05
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kamersyou know, the .conf is fine (i see it in the xorg.conf.log) but the server chooses to ignore it, because of that detected "maximum"04:06
open-glh1st0 what set should i do that on04:06
h1st0open-gl: huh?04:06
GamingXHello everyone, how do I compile C programs in Ubuntu?04:06
scguy318_2GamingX: you need the build-essential metapackage04:06
open-glbetter yet just tell me the full command04:06
h1st0open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`04:06
kamersits obviously wrong, since vesa reports the monitor is 1024x768@75 capable04:07
scguy318_2GamingX: and how do you want to build? command-line? or IDE?04:07
open-glok04:07
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vmlinuz`gdm or kdm?04:07
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h1st0open-gl: then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx04:07
kamersand i have already used it at those configurations with win (no problems)04:07
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open-glh1st0 i did do that on step 204:07
h1st0open-gl: the module should be loading by default even without the firmware present.  it just won't work untill it is.04:07
GamingXscguy318_2: I wrote the code in using gedit...04:07
colin_anybody else have audio troubles with a dell e1505/640004:07
colin_?04:07
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h1st0open-gl: just like I typed it above.04:08
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scguy318_2colin_: i dont own one, but whats the question04:08
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kamersmy specific question is: who is detecting it wrong? I think is the sis driver04:08
h1st0open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`     That will put it in /lib/firmware/2.6.20-16-generic/04:08
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h1st0open-gl: or whatever kernel you are currently running04:08
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h1st0!anyone > colin_04:09
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kamersi have already read ALL the contents of xorg wiki... ;)04:09
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kamersi think i have a brand new bug here...04:09
h1st0kamers: you may want to ask them then.04:09
open-glmastershrek showed me a different way yesterday and it worked but i forgot what i did04:09
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GamingXHow do I compile the code?04:09
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scguy318GamingX: gcc04:09
h1st0kamers: #xorg04:09
scguy318GamingX: man gcc for info04:09
GamingX!gcc04:09
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:09
kamersok tks04:09
h1st0kamers: they may be of more help than anyone here04:09
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kamersfine...tks anyway ;)04:10
colin_having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the04:10
colin_          headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer04:10
colin_          but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both04:10
h1st0!compile > GamingX04:10
scguy318!sound | colin_04:10
ubotucolin_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:10
h1st0colin_: i'm so confused by your question04:10
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colin_yeah alsa is enabled04:10
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h1st0colin_: Your statement makes absolutely no sense04:10
colin_what is so confusing in the mixer there are three sliders or faders a headphone fader and a speaker fader04:11
cjae_!compile04:11
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:11
h1st0colin_: "but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both?"04:11
colin_affect the volume04:11
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colin_of both04:11
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h1st0colin_: perhaps your soundcard only has one output04:11
colin_no04:11
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h1st0colin_: where are you plugging the headphones in to and where are you pluggin the speakers in to?04:11
colin_so basically if i use the headphone port the sound still comes outta the laptop speakers04:11
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h1st0colin_: ahh04:12
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h1st0colin_: that makes sense04:12
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colin_there are 2 faders04:12
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colin_in the mixer04:12
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colin_but if i turn off the speaker fader it still comes out of the internal speakers04:12
h1st0colin_: the hardware should be turning off the speakers on the laptop when headphones are plugged in not the mixer04:12
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towskisI'm having trouble connecting to an encrypted network. It asks for a WPA passphrase, I put the correct passphrase in, but it times out on trying to get a second green dot. Any ideas?04:12
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manduskihey guys how do you join the XUBUNTU chat?04:12
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h1st0!wpa > towskis04:12
Hilikusdoes feisty server install by default apache or apache2?? or, how do i know which one i have04:12
colin_i dunno how true that is. I own another dell laptop and it has 2 faders and i can turn off the internal speakers04:13
h1st0Hilikus: by default nothing unless you select a lamp install04:13
colin_with the speaker fader04:13
cjae_how do I make stream tuner not rip to /opt/ripped04:13
chris__could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?04:13
furenkuI am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers - the card does show up on lspci, but on iwconfig i get "no wireless extensions" for lo and eth004:13
Hilikush1st0 i did04:13
colin_so there is something wrong with my alsa04:13
h1st0Hilikus: dpkg -l | grep apache04:13
manduskihey guys how can i join the xubuntu chat?04:13
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cypher1furenku, sorry was away04:13
h1st0colin_: possibly did you try searching the forums?  ubuntuforums.org  search for your specific laptop model see if others have had your problem04:14
Hilikusapache2, thanks h1st004:14
overcluckermanduski: /join #xubuntu04:14
h1st0manduski: /j #xubuntu04:14
chris__could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?04:14
cypher1furenku, do you find any messages related to the card in dmesg, also is the module for the card is loaded ?04:14
tonyyarussochris__: #ubuntu-effects04:14
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chris__thanks04:14
mneptokchris__: just wait for Gutsy04:14
h1st0furenku: what kind of wireless card do you have?04:14
colin_so any alsa gurus in here?04:14
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h1st0furenku: and did you upgrade your kernel or someting?04:14
rabidsnailHow do I have a command continue running after i've logged off?04:14
manduskithx04:15
chris__whats gutsy ?04:15
mneptokrabidsnail: screen04:15
scguy318!gutsy | chris___04:15
cjae_cause there is notting in the gui to change it04:15
ubotuchris___: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+104:15
h1st0rabidsnail: you could use screen04:15
mneptokchris__: the next release04:15
furenkuh1st0, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG04:15
overcluckerhaha! that is the answer to every problem, latley! WAIT FOR GUTSY!!04:15
h1st0That should not say support only in #ubuntu+104:15
nrdbhow do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.04:15
h1st0Should say bug testing/reporting in #ubuntu+104:15
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mneptokh1st0: until release, yes it should04:15
ubuntulusershttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg04:15
h1st0nrdb: remove its fstab entry04:16
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h1st0!offtopic > ubuntulusers04:16
overcluckerhow to change your icons: wait for gutsy!04:16
h1st0overclucker: or just install a icon package from gnome-look04:16
mneptokubuntulusers: i already told you once about -offtopic. next time is strike 3.04:16
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ubuntuluserswhat's strike 3'?04:17
ubuntulusers:o)04:17
nrdbh1st0: if I remove it, wouldn't I then need to specifiy a full mount command to mount it ?04:17
furenkucypher1, it is not present in dmesg (i think) - how do i know whether the module is loaded04:17
h1st0nrdb: yes04:17
scguy318ubuntulusers: whatever it is, it prob wont be much fun04:17
h1st0nrdb: how else would you mount it.04:17
GamingXHow to take screenshot in ubuntu?04:17
overcluckerh1st0: just remarking on the current fix-all solution (;04:17
ubuntulusersok04:17
h1st0!screencast > GamingX04:17
scguy318GamingX: Print Screen, if ur not in GNOME04:17
ubuntulusersi don't want strike 304:17
ubuntulusers:-(04:17
nrdbh1st0: "mount <mount point>"04:17
attackdecayscreen shot04:17
ubuntulusersi'm sorry04:17
scguy318GamingX: theres a screenshot applet, and there are some packages to let u map screenshot key04:17
attackdecayalt-prnt screen04:17
mneptokubuntulusers: no, you don't.04:18
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mneptoktrust me.04:18
manduskihey guys, i have xubuntu and I have it set up for command line login. Today I downloaded the GNOME desktop environment and I wanted to know if anyone knew how, on command line login, "startx" with GNOME04:18
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h1st0nrdb: sudo mount /dev/blah /mount/point04:18
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cypher1furenku, try lsmod | more and look for something similar to your card04:18
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h1st0manduski: you'd have to change your ~/.xinitrc04:18
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h1st0manduski: or install a manager such as xdm or gdm to switch upon logging in.04:19
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furenkucypher1, nothing there04:19
mneptokmanduski: or use the sessions manager at the login splash04:19
wastrelmanduski: echo exec gnome-session > .xinitrc04:19
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kamerspeoples...sorry but there is nobody on xorg...i will try here anyway04:19
h1dekihi. with apache's mod_dav_svn, does anyone know if it's possible to look up on ldap groups for group authorization in AuthzSVNAccessFile files instead of having have to write out the user names in [group]  clause?04:19
furenkucypher1, or maybe i dont know what to look for04:19
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manduskihlst0: What changes would i have to make to ~/.xinitrc?04:19
kamers(II) SIS(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 90 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 54 kHz, PixClock max 60 MHz04:19
wastrelmneptok: he doesn't have the login splash, not using a display manager04:19
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cypher1furenku, lsmod | grep ipw394504:19
kamersthat is from may xorg.conf.log - the picClock is not ok04:20
h1st0h1deki: /j #apache04:20
kamersi supose i should blame the sis driver...is it right?04:20
furenkucypher1, i found ipw3945 with lsmod | more (i hadn't clicked more)04:20
h1dekih1st0: yeah, i tried, but so far that place and #svn looks pretty silent..04:20
h1st0h1deki: hrm.04:20
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cypher1furenku, can you please paste it at pastebin ?04:21
mneptokfurenku: do you have a physical switch that controls the wireless? if so, ensure it's not off. ;)04:21
h1st0kamers: dunno you could try using the vesa driver and see if you get any difference04:21
manduskithnx guys04:21
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h1st0manduski: just search google for .xinitrc04:21
cypher1furenku, yes as mneptok mentioned that is one of the common things we forgot.. please make sure that it is on04:21
furenkucypher1, the whole output or just the part for ipw04:21
furenkucypher1, mneptok, it is no04:22
furenkucypher1, mneptok, it is on04:22
cypher1furenku, the whole04:22
h1st0manduski: I dont' know the exact line you would need but somethign like "exec gnome"  or exec gnome2  whatever starts gnome04:22
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wastrelexec gnome-session04:22
kamersh1st0: ok tks...ive tryed it already..the same. funny, but there must be another system service that is lieing04:22
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h1st0kamers: What sort of problem are you experiencing because of this?04:23
patrickkkkkkkkkkhey i cant write to an external harddrive, using gusty beta.... heres my fstab http://rafb.net/p/uaMeaC41.html04:23
Ax3hey guys, i've been playing with vnc over ssh for about an hour now, and I can't seem to get my Windows XP machine to connect to a vnc session. any pointers?04:23
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h1st0!gutsy | patrickkkkkkkkkk04:23
ubotupatrickkkkkkkkkk: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+104:23
cruiserpartsi am trying to figure out why my cron job won't work.  Is this the proper place to ask for help or should I use another service?04:23
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h1st0!ask | cruiserparts04:24
ubotucruiserparts: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:24
kamerssince the server "thinks" 60 Hz for Pixclock is maximum, it ignores the mode 1024x768x60 Hz (can use only 87 Hz interlaced...SO ugly)04:24
h1st0Ax3: are you using putty on the windows machine?04:24
h1st0Ax3: or vnc viewer or something?04:24
Ax3I download real vnc viewer from realvnc.com04:24
Ax3downloaded*04:24
h1st0Ax3: what sort of problems are you having?04:25
cjae_ok I see where to change the ripped directory but how do I make it take hold04:25
kamerssee...the mode 1024x768@60Hz uses about 62.x MHz in the PixClock...04:25
overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: i think this is a more general problem, so stay here04:25
furenkucypher1, it is up: http://pastebin.com/d3d04a4f904:25
patrickkkkkkkkkkyeah, i couldnt in feisty either04:25
h1st0kamers: hrm...  I would just be scowering google for pixclock xorg04:25
h1st0patrickkkkkkkkkk: gutsy is in #ubuntu+104:25
Ax3h1st0, well when I try to connect to my ubuntu machine I do, 192.168.1.4:1 and the real vnc viewer client returns an error saying unable to connect04:25
kamersso the mode gets excluded...and that is not right: in that log line, should be about 80 or 100 MHz for max pixclocl04:25
cruiserpartsubotu: first time on irc.  I have a simple script that backs up some directories on my ubuntu server.  when I log in as a user, it runs fine.  but I have set up a cron job as that user and it doesn't ever run.04:25
overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: is it sda1?04:26
h1st0Ax3: can you ssh to the box?04:26
tompouceHi! I just intalled every kde4 packages, now how do I start it?04:26
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Ax3h1st0, yes i can :)04:26
cjae_nevermind got her04:26
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h1st0Ax3: hrm... maybe try a different client04:26
kamerswel...ok..i have already done that...there is just NO docs about the use of the PixClock (just the obvious...)04:26
Ax3h1st0, I also put 5900 and 5901 in my router port forward rules04:26
jribcruiserparts: pastebin the cron line04:27
Ax3that didn't work tho :(04:27
scguy318Ax3: connecting over the INternet?04:27
patrickkkkkkkkkkoverclucker:no its not04:27
scguy318Ax3: if so, 192.168.1.4 is not the correct IP ;)04:27
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overcluckerpatrickkkkkkkkkk: which one?04:27
Ax3scguy318, well eventually, I was testing on my LAN first, then I want to get it to work outside my house04:27
scguy318Ax3: if you're connecting from outside, you'll have to supply a fine public IP04:27
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h1st0Ax3: yeah thats the only thing I can think of is that its some sort of port behing blocked but not if you can ssh04:27
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kamersi think its a sis driver bug...but i could not find where to go from here.04:28
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furenkucypher1, i had to exit IRC, did you by chance type something to me?04:28
Ax3scguy318, yea but I hardly think it'll work over the intarweb, if it doesn't work within my house lol04:28
patrickkkkkkkkkkim not sure....sda1 is my windows partition04:28
cypher1furenku, no04:28
cypher1furenku, can you try doing sudo modprobe -r nvidia ?04:29
Ax3h1st0, yea Im really at a loss, i just don't understand how the ssh tunnel works04:29
Ax3the ubuntu documentation is awful04:29
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attackdecayhey what's the deal with beryl and compiz...   compiz fusion..   da da da....  i can't seem to find a definitive/uptodate answer04:29
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vmlinuz`why does Neotun stops the media song whenever i click "Play" it doesnt even play... bug?04:29
JeevesMosshow do you set up vhosts in apache2?04:29
JeevesMosshow do you set up vhosts in apache2?04:29
cypher1furenku, and see whether the wireless network is seen again04:29
furenkucypher1, FATAL: nvidia is in use04:29
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wastrelcruiserparts:  is the PATH different in your user login environment than in the cron environment?  do you have a simple "hello world" type thing running ok under cron?04:29
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scguy318Ax3: you stick in a local tunnel in SSH, then you connect to the local tunnel on your loopback04:29
furenkucypher1, still the same...04:30
mneptokvmlinuz`: please keep your support questions to a single channel. #ubuntu is not the right plage for Kubuntu questions.04:30
kamerswell, in fact, i think that the "DDC" is lieing to the sis driver04:30
scguy318Ax3: so if you're forwarding 127.0.0.1:5900 -> ubuntumachine:5900, then on the VNC client, you would connect to 127.0.0.1:5900, and the SSH client would route it to the SSH server04:30
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vmlinuz`mneptok: i asked about neotun the program, not kubuntu ;/04:30
cruiserpartsubotu.  30 0 * * * /home/user/BackupScripts/nightlyBackup is the output from crontab -l04:30
kamersi could not disable that DDC detection...(already tryed all those keys in the xorg.conf)04:31
cruiserpartsoops.  that is 30 3 * * * ...04:31
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Ax3scguy318, how does the realvnc viewer software know that it's supposed to route to the ssh server04:31
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Ax3scguy318, the two applications seem independent of one another04:32
kamerswell...anyway, this ubuntu is almost "good" i think. not 100% yet, but much better... :(04:32
jribcruiserparts: ubotu is a bot04:32
scguy318Ax3: because the SSH client sets up a listener socket04:32
furenkucypher1, still the same04:32
scguy318Ax3: that does the routing to the SSH server04:32
mneptokvmlinuz`: "Noatun" (note the correct spelling) is an app for KDE. please don't ask about it here.04:32
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cypher1furenku, ok.. i am thinking04:32
tompoucecan you help me?04:32
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Ax3scguy318, hmmm04:32
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zoredacheIs anyone familar with dm-crypt?  What is the effect on the encryted volume, if I do a luksOpen, but then don't do a close?04:33
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LindarOkay, so my disk is being a bastard. I've booted from the Ubuntu CD and now I've got a command prompt up. I need to do the linux equiv. of a chkdisk. The disk is messed up...04:34
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cypher1furenku, i am sorry i think i am out of ideas to debug.. please wait for someone to answer you.. thanks04:34
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zoredacheLindar: the linux equivlanet of chkdsk is 'fsck'04:34
jribcruiserparts: i have to go but try installing 'mutt' and checking your mail from cron04:34
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furenkucypher1, thank you!! really04:35
Ax3scguy318, on the documentation page it suggests: "ssh -fCNT user@192.168.1.25 -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901"04:35
Lindarzoredache: zoh... my... gods... I'm retarded for not remembering that command... Thank you. >_<04:35
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Ax3scguy318, so I setup putty, run that command (replacing the addresses with my unique IPs) and then connect with the realvncviewer app, correct?04:36
smacfarlhey gang when does 7.10 go out of beta?04:36
furenkuThe option "wireless network" has disappeared from network preferences , does anybody know how to open it again?04:36
usr13smacfarl, It's a surprise04:36
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GamingXHow to compile a .txt file containing C code?04:36
smacfarllol. I'm thinking about upgrading just to see if my ATI Radeon 7000 has better driver support.04:37
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wastrelGamingX: install build-essential04:37
usr13smacfarl, Seriously, I don't know for sure but it's pretty close, i'm told.04:37
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smacfarlloverly04:37
crdlbsmacfarl, very doubtful, although you may benefit from general improvements in Xorg04:37
GamingXwastrel: I did that....After that?04:38
crdlbsmacfarl, and it comes out October 19ish04:38
smacfarlwhere can I read about the details of those xorg improvements?04:38
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chrisjs169smacfarl, you might as well just let the update manager (or similar) run overnight - I (and apparently other people on the forums) am getting really slow download speeds - 50KB/s max04:38
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LindarHow do I repair my hdd?04:39
LindarIt's dumb...04:39
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smacfarlwill the update manager automatically migrate me to 7.10?04:39
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usr13fsck -y04:39
h1st0Lindar: fsck04:39
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wastrelGamingX: gcc -o filename filename.c04:39
h1st0Lindar: fsck /hard/drive/location04:40
GamingXwastrel: I'll try that....04:40
chrisjs169smacfarl, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"04:40
h1st0Lindar: ex; fsck /dev/hda  or fsck /dev/sda04:40
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kevinOwhats a good app to rip cd's into iso's?04:40
h1st0kevinO: you don't need any apps to do that.04:40
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kevinOcool how do i do it04:41
GamingXwastrel: I get this gcc: Sqrt.c: No such file or directory....04:41
vmlinuz`does xmms go to system tray?04:41
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wastrelGamingX: is Sqrt.c in your current directory?04:41
h1st0kevinO: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso04:41
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kevinOthats the command vmlinuz` ?04:41
kadalhi all, can anybody help me set a scheduled job using cron / crontab ?04:41
LindarIt keeps saying something about superblock and bad magic number...04:41
smacfarlchrisjs169 so you recommend I update to 7.10 tonight then?04:41
samsmI'm having some trouble mounting a usb hard drive ... and it isn't showing up on the "sudo fdisk -l" list. Any suggestions?04:41
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vmlinuz`kevinO: hehe :)04:42
zoredachedo you see it if you do an lsusb?04:42
h1st0kevinO: use dd like I explained above for making an iso04:42
vmlinuz`kevinO: I was asking myself :)04:42
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chrisjs169smacfarl, you can update any time, but it's probably going to take a few hours to download the packages, regardless of download speed04:42
kadalI made a simple bash script n put it on crontab -e ; but it never run04:42
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h1st0samsm: it should be auto mounted when plugging it in.04:42
kevinOoh sorry vmlinuz04:42
GamingXwastrel : I only have the Sqrt.txt file, how do I get the Sqrt.c file?04:42
h1st0!mount > samsm04:42
chrisjs169smacfarl, from what I've found anyway04:42
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kevinOh1st0:  where does it put the iso?04:43
Juggieanyone know how to stop pcmcia support (yenta) from loading?04:43
h1st0kevinO: in what ever directory you are in when you run the command04:43
samsmh1st0: Would be nice if it did mount, but it didn't. :)04:43
kevinOahh thinks h1st004:43
wastrelGamingX: if sqrt.txt is c code you can just rename the file  or you can use file.txt instead of file.c  gcc shouldn't care04:43
kevinOthanks*04:43
h1st0samsm: did you check dmesg04:43
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h1st0kevinO: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html04:43
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samsmzoredache: lsusb hangs.04:44
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dennebYo04:44
h1st0samsm: plug int he drive and run dmesg04:44
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wastreli take it back, gcc does care04:44
smacfarlchrisjs169 when i did the gksudo update-manager -c -d I got a "warning: could not initiate dbus". What does that mean?04:44
h1st0samsm: before you do you can dmesg -c to clear it first04:44
dennebJe suis nouveau04:44
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h1st0!fr | denneb04:44
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ubotudenneb: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:44
smacfarldenneb bonjour04:45
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dennebje voudrais un petit renseignement04:45
dennebje suis novice sur linux04:45
samsmh1st0: I'll give that a shot, thanks.04:45
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chrisjs169smacfarl, I get that too - don't know what exactly it means (I'm just another user upgrading ;)) but it still upgrades04:45
dennebsmacfarl, ?04:45
smacfarldenneb Allez #ubuntu-fr04:45
dennebok04:45
dennebmerci04:45
smacfarlmy pleasure04:46
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BlackCowhello04:46
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drewzfOkay seriously there's gotta be an easier way to theme Ubuntu04:46
h1st0drewzf: there is04:46
wastreltheme04:46
drewzfWhat is it?!04:46
riotkittietheme ubuntu?  uh.04:46
riotkittietheme what?04:46
riotkittieall of the versions? gnome? xfce? kde?04:46
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drewzfoops04:47
h1st0drewzf: just go to gnome-look.org and just go to System > Preferences > Theme  you can then drag and drop the downloaded theme04:47
drewzfsorry, theme gnome on ubuntu04:47
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wastreldownload & install theme.04:47
h1st0drewzf: its very easy to do.04:47
drewzfI'm using Emerald04:47
drewzfAnd I need a theme for my panels04:47
h1st0drewzf: then download emerald themes04:47
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h1st0drewzf: well those would be configured under System > preferences > Theme04:48
riotkittieuuids make my head spin04:48
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h1st0riotkittie: yeah they are annoying04:48
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drewzfEmerald should theme the panels too04:48
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ubuntulusersSpiderpig...Spiderpig...does whatever a Spiderpig does!04:48
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riotkittiei prefer the archaic /dev/whatever method  :D04:48
kevinGhey, does anyone know where I can set what sound card loads first?04:48
BlackCowso im trying to set up a home server with ubuntu but im just curious, as long as I have ports forwarded to that computer only (behind a router) its not going to put other computers on my network at risk right?04:48
kevinGi'm not sure what directory that file is in04:48
drewzfAND there is no 'Theme' under System > Preferences04:49
h1st0BlackCow: at risk from what?04:49
riotkittiedrewzf: what version of ubuntu?04:49
BlackCowlike from attacks04:49
BlackCowlatest04:49
h1st0drewzf: what version of ubuntu areyou using?04:49
riotkittie6.06, 7.04, 6.10?04:49
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drewzfGutsy Gibbon :)04:49
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BlackCowoh sorry, 7.04 server edition i think04:49
h1st0drewzf: ahh its in System > Preferences > Appearance04:49
riotkittiewell, in that case, its in pref > appearance04:50
h1st0drewzf: and gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 channel please04:50
riotkittieh1st0 has speedy fingers of doom =|04:50
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drewzfh1st0, don't be ridiculous that question had nothing to do with Gutsy and there's not half the people there04:50
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patrickkkkkkkkkkim trying to change the pemissions on my external hd http://pastebin.com/m289956 my fstab04:50
riotkittieyou're using gutsy. therefore, it had everything to do with gutsy.04:50
patrickkkkkkkkkkin /media the hd comes up as04:50
BlackCowi meen i know the server could be at risk (i dont care that much) im just wondering if someone who knew what they were doing could use that server to attack other computers on the network04:50
h1st0drewzf: yes there are plenty of people there and it did have to do with gutsy04:51
patrickkkkkkkkkkdisk04:51
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h1st0drewzf: since System > Preferences > Appearance is a lot different than System > Preferences > Theme04:51
h1st0!mount > patrickkkkkkkkkk04:51
BlackCowi dont know a lot about networks and servers, thats why I am doing this partly to learn04:51
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drewzfh1st0, No it didn't. You're the one that gave me the path to it ;)04:52
h1st0BlackCow: Are you worried about security ont he work stations or the server?04:52
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h1st0omfg i give04:52
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BlackCowerm, work stations being other computers on the same local network as the server then yes04:52
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kevinGdoes anyone know how to get the right soundcard to load? as it stands, ubuntu seems to load a random one up at startup04:52
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defconquick Q: my X login window, when I login is a resolution too BIG, how to adjust it04:52
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h1st0BlackCow: well open ports ont eh server woulodn't effeect the workstations security vulnerabilities.04:53
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h1st0BlackCow: is the server availible from the outside world?04:53
BlackCowyes04:53
drewzfhmm? What did ubuntulusers do?04:53
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cruiserpartssetting up a crontab to run echo "hello world" every minute does not run under cron either. but it does run manually as a script.04:53
MrKeunerhi, 7.04 live cd does not start on acer aspire 9504 laptop04:53
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BlackCowMrKeuner, make sure you have boot from CD set up in the bios04:54
wastrelcruiserparts: are you echoing hello world to a file?04:54
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MrKeunerBlackCow: it boots from the cd but x dies complaining no screens04:54
riotkittieMrKeuner: can you elaborate on "doesnt start" ... does it boot at all?04:54
riotkittieok never mind.04:54
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mustuHello! is there any specific channel for Ubunto l10n?04:55
riotkittiewhat the hay's ubunto l10n?04:55
Absolute0is there a way i can download pkgs faster with apt-get?04:55
wastrellocalization04:55
mustuUbunto Localization04:55
Absolute0any faster repositories?04:55
riotkittieah.04:55
BlackCowso other computers on my network should be fine if I run a server (accessable from the outside world)04:55
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mustuis there any?04:56
h1st0BlackCow: yes04:56
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h1st0MrKeuner: try safe graphics mode04:57
cruiserpartsyes. i am echoing to the file helloworldreport.  the only time hellow world shows up is when i manually start the script.04:57
h1st0!security > BlackCow04:57
h1st0BlackCow: read the message from ubotu04:57
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MrKeunerh1st0: how's that possible? in grub?04:57
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h1st0MrKeuner: its on the mian menu of the livecd04:58
BlackCowalright, thanks for your help, hopefully i can get things running being a server newbie04:58
h1st0MrKeuner: its on of the options04:58
chrisjs169smacfarl, ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu is a decent mirror - seems to be full speed for me.  it should be in System | Administration | Software Sources04:58
h1st0BlackCow: A good resource for you will be help.ubuntu.com and www.ubuntuguide.org04:59
chrisjs169smacfarl, I take that back - it was doing good for a whole 10 seconds04:59
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h1st0BlackCow: check those out for most your questions.  Just stay away from scripts such as automatix or envy they can really bork your system up.04:59
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BlackCowok04:59
dublpawsipython is crashing sometimes trying to tab-complete. Does anyone know a fix?05:00
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BlackCowalso, what do you guys think of using something with a user interface to run a server on? Would I be best off not doing that and learning to use commands only?05:01
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drewzfSo what is responsible for theming gnome panels? GTK? Metacity?05:02
wastreli thought ubuntuguide was considered harmful05:02
cruiserpartshold on.  let me see.  more info...  when i start the script by clicking on the text file script hello world runs, but when i open a terminal and type the path to that same script file, it does not run.05:02
fungos__what is the java6 plugin for firefox  package? I cant find it05:02
h1st0BlackCow: you would learn the most doing it from cli05:02
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DoYouKnowBlackCow, interesting. are you aware of any gui wrappers for servers?05:02
northerwwow05:02
h1st0BlackCow: but you could install any desktop environment.  Most of your stuff is goign to be done through terminal though anyway05:02
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h1st0BlackCow: you could also administer the server via a webpage if you have apache installed with webmin or something like that.  There are all sorts of options.05:03
eggdhello, im trying to download http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key05:03
BlackCowerm, i dunno, i heard you could use gentoo to run a server *shrugs*05:03
eggdis anyone able to?05:03
BlackCowi meen you can run a server on anything right05:03
h1st0eggd: automatix is not supported here and shouldnt' be used05:03
h1st0BlackCow: yeap pretty much.05:03
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BlackCoweven windows vista if you wanted to *chuckles*05:03
GNinesynaptic works just fine for software lookup/nstallation/uninstallation needs05:03
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h1st0BlackCow: most servers are command line based in linux though.05:03
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BlackCowso yeah, i dunno, ill stick with the comand line, its the proper way05:04
eggdh1st0:  why now?05:04
h1st0BlackCow: but that doesn't stop you from installing gnome on the server if you really wanted to.05:04
eggdh1st0: why not?05:04
h1st0eggd: cuz it can really break your system.05:04
fungos__how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ???05:04
h1st0!automatix | eggd05:04
ubotueggd: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:04
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chrisjs169eggd, --- getautomatix.com ping statistics ---3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms05:04
MrKeunerh1st0: it does not start in safe graphics mode either..05:04
BlackCowhm, never thought of installing gnome, may take up some uncecessay processing power and RAM05:04
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MrKeunerh1st0: no screens found05:05
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MrKeunerh1st0: found but no usable config05:05
h1st0MrKeuner: hrm... you may want to search the forums for your model notebook ubuntuforums.org05:05
h1st0MrKeuner: You might have to specify some option like noacpi or noapic to get it going.05:05
furenku__cypher1, the problem was i hadn't installed linux-restricted-modules05:05
danohey all, i just downloaded a program called wipe.  Is there a way to incorporate it into nautilus so i can "wipe" a file instead of delete it the normal way?05:06
h1st0dano: maybe ask the programs creator05:06
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Flanneldano: shred is already available as well.05:06
danoh1st0, i thought there may be some sort of gconf editor05:06
h1st0dano: there is gconf-editor05:07
northeri cant get steam to work:( anyone able to help im using wine but obviously doing something wrong05:07
samsmh1st0: Thanks for your help earlier, turned out this was a turn it on-and-off-again thing.05:07
danoFlannel, I have shred, and i don't see that option in nautilus, any ideas?05:07
Flanneldano: you could probably create a nautilus extension easily enough.  right click > wipe.  If you look at some of the other ones out there, it shouldn't be hard to modify it05:07
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GNineare you that paranoid05:07
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the_giverany reason not to use ubuntu as a webserver?05:07
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GNinethere is no need for such a program on linux.05:08
Flanneldano: There are some nauilus extensions in the forums, and some in the repositories as well (usually package name is 'nautilus-[something')05:08
fungos__how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ??? anybody!!?05:08
usr13the_giver, NO, works fine.05:08
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Flannelfungos__: dpkg -S libjavaplugin.so05:08
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GNinethere is a server edition , the_giver05:08
Flannelthe_giver: No reason not to.  No.05:08
usr13apt-get install apache and away u go.05:08
jason_is it unusual of the nearsighted people here to have to read within 2ft distance?  kinda wondering lately about the effects of computer monitors from a few hours each day.. :|05:08
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GNinecurrent monitor/CRt techNologies are very easy on the eyes.  i wouldnt worry about that05:09
northernightsighted people?05:09
the_giverGNine,  really.. hmm cool thanks05:09
GNineaside that, do take a break to check if the outside world is still out there , would ya05:10
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usr13Someone's accusing us of being nearsighted people?!?!05:10
northeractually crt monitors aren't good at all, lcd+ is good though05:10
riotkittiejason_: depends on the severity of the nearsightedness...05:10
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usr13depends on the severity of the people!  :)05:10
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jason_riotkittie, is that severity very uncommon you think?  2ft max for focal point.05:11
LindarOkay, so my hard drive is corrupt. It says that there's a bad superblock. What's the command I have to run to repair it? I have a lot of junk installed just to get my wifi card to work, and I don't want to have to reinstall it.05:11
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usr13fsdk -y05:11
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riotkittieoutside...? world?  what is this madness, GNine :o05:12
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h1st0Lindar: read what usr13 said05:12
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Lindarfsck -y doesn't do anything05:12
Sonicadvance1Hello. I'm wondering. in my timidity.cfg file. I have a bunch of settings I can uncomment to make it use less CPU power. I have a SF2 file already that I'm using so no one suggest getting a better SF2 file. but I'm wondering if there are any settings I can set in the timidity.cfg file to make the music sound better?05:12
usr13Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda05:12
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usr13or fsck -y /dev/hdb    whatever...05:12
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GNineriotkittie, i hope you have also been in touch with your inner world as well..05:13
usr13or fsck -y /dev/hdb1 or 2 etc.    whatever...05:13
h1st0Lindar: the -y option tells it to fix the errors05:13
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Lindarthe superblock could not be read blah blah blah....05:13
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dnwhat's the support channel that's for gutsy?05:13
Flanneldn: #ubuntu+105:13
GNine!gutsy05:13
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+105:13
usr13Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda2  or... whatever...05:13
dnthanks Flannel05:13
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LindarHow do I find out which one is my primary drive?05:14
Lindarhda1 is my backup drive...05:14
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usr13Lindar, How do you know you have a bad spot, (and don't know which partition it it?)05:14
nrdbI have created a unionfs in initrd of the from the what was the root and another rw partition.  I have checked the unionfs and it appears ok.  The problem is that when I boot it seems to get stuck in a loop using 100% CPU and never actually boots, any ideas on how to find out what the problem is ?05:14
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yurimxpxmanwhat does alt+print scrn+l do?05:15
LindarI can't boot. grub gives either error 24 or 25.05:15
usr13Lindar:  don't know which partition it is?05:15
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LindarI just can't boot into my primary drive. GRUB screws up....05:15
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h1st0Lindar: well the bad superblock may be part of the issue05:15
h1st0Lindar: fdisk -l will list your drives05:15
GNineLindar, have you looked in your device manager lately05:16
usr13Lindar, Just all partitions that you suspect have problems.05:16
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usr13Lindar, Wait, is grub broken?  Or do you have a bad HD?05:17
LindarDunno...05:17
LindarGrub loading.... Error 24 (or 25).05:17
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GNineLindar, has a one multi-angle question going on05:17
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vinboyhi05:18
usr13Lindar, So, when did you start having this problem?05:18
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vinboyanyone know how to make D4X show KB/s   or Mb/s instead of just B/s ?05:18
LindarIt's been happening, it's just that it goes away after a few reboots.05:18
Juggieanyone know why ndiswrapper loads as wlan0 and then switches to eth1?05:18
usr13Lindar, Is there a particular event that happened that you might suspect as having an effect on the drive or boot loader?05:18
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usr13Lindar, What drive do you have Linux on?05:19
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GNinei hope Lindar has a live cd handy05:19
usr13Lindar, hda hdb hdc  sda sdb sdc etc?05:19
northerOmg05:20
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LindarI don't know...05:20
usr13Lindar,  You don't know?05:20
usr13Lindar, Boot to a live CD and look and see.05:21
h1st0Lindar: look at the output of fdisk -l05:21
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silenthey guys, how do I make ssh fully transparent? my modifiers aren't going through properly. (ctrl+s wont register)05:21
usr13Lindar, Boot a live CD and  do as hlst0 says:  fdisk -l05:21
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unicode!opera05:22
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:22
GNinecheck all firewall05:22
GNine(s)05:22
Lindarfdisk -l doesn't do anything05:23
northerI am having troubles with installing my video drivers. i have an nvidia geforce 6600, i went to the nvidia website and downloaded the linux version and i ended up getting a .RUN file... but the system keeps saying it doesnt recognize .RUN files... can anyone help?05:23
silentsudo fdisk -l newbie05:23
usr13Lindar, sudo fdisk -l05:23
Lindarsilent: sorry, asshole05:23
silent<305:23
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h1st0norther: just use the restricted drivers manager to install them.05:24
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kevinO!ohmy | Lindar05:24
ubotuLindar: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:24
kevinOlol, ive always wanted to do that05:24
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h1st0norther: System > Adminsitration > Restricted Drivers05:24
silentI forgot to05:24
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Lindarhdb1 is the swap, hdb2 is the linux drive.05:24
usr13Lindar, How many hard drives do you have in this PC?05:24
Lindar205:24
h1st0Lindar: fsck -y /dev/hdb05:24
Lindarone is ntfs backup05:25
usr13Lindar,  fsck -y /dev/hda205:25
unicode!cedega05:25
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:25
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silentsudo rm -r /* ?05:25
h1st0!ops05:25
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GNinentfs backup.. you better forget about that one to fix you LINUX issue05:25
open-gl!ops05:25
Amaranthopen-gl: ...05:25
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open-gl???05:26
northerhlts0 it says nvidia accelerated graphics driver is in use. but it just doesnt seem like it05:26
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Amaranthopen-gl: Why did you call for ops?05:26
northerhlst0 everything is still choppy05:26
h1st0norther: well youc an glxinfo | grep render to see if it is05:26
LindarIt still says it can't read the superblock...05:26
open-gli didnt05:26
naliothAmaranth: language05:26
LindarSo it wont repair it...05:26
kevinOuhh05:26
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h1st0norther: to use the driver from nvidia.com you'd have to sudo sh NVIDIABLALblahblah.run05:27
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open-gljust by typing it doesnt mean you will get it05:27
Amaranthopen-gl: it goes, actually05:27
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usr13Lindar, so you did fdisk -l /dev/hda2   and it was unable to fix it?05:27
northerhlst0, ah ty ill try that05:27
silentLindar, what are you trying to do? maybe I can help05:27
usr13Lindar, Then, you will need to discard the drive and get a good one, and start over.05:27
open-gli dont see any op for me then05:28
open-glso it doesnt work05:28
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h1st0Amaranth: I did for silent05:28
Amaranthopen-gl: I'm here05:28
usr13Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb205:28
northerhlst0 it says it is unable to run it.05:28
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open-gli know your here but no op05:29
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open-glit's just a command given to some people maybe05:29
kevinOAmaranth, h1sto called ops for silent, open-gl was just plyin i think05:29
GNineyou got 2 hdd's, two OS (on the same puter) and you have no clue whats going on.. you cant even name your drives.. hopeless05:29
Lindarfdisk -l brings up the partition table for that drive.05:29
Lindarfsck -y doesn't do anything.05:29
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usr13Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb205:29
logreevalIs there a seperate gaming IRC Channel for ubuntu?05:29
Amaranthopen-gl: Don't be so sure :)05:29
usr13Lindar,  Did you do:    sudo  fsck -y /dev/hdb205:29
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Lindaroui05:30
LindarI will try once again.05:30
Amaranthopen-gl: It doesn't give you operator powers, it calls for the operators05:30
silentthe ops are fast I'm surprised. good work guys05:30
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LindarThe superblock cannot be read or does not describe something something blah blah blah....05:30
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silento_O05:31
usr13Lindar, Then you will need another HD.05:31
AmaranthGNine: TMI05:31
Amaranthusr13: No, just a dead superblock05:31
open-glwell then i didnt know a command like that can op someone05:31
silentLindar, you can put your console output in a pastebin for easy access for people helping05:31
Amaranthusr13: there are backups you can point it to but i don't remember how to find what they are05:31
silentsuch as pastebin.ca05:31
GNineAmaranth, am not too good at shorthand05:31
open-glbut you dont see me with it05:31
LindarI'm not on the same computer.05:31
LindarI'm on one comp and running to the broken one to run the commands.05:32
AmaranthGNine: Too Much Information, we didn't need to know that05:32
silentssh in05:32
logreevalI am looking for a game similar to Halo that is linux native and has a store, aka doesn't have to be networked and played online...anyone know any games liket hat?05:32
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open-glso is everything fine then05:32
usr13Amaranth, Yes, that is right.  That could mean that the partition table is corrupt.05:32
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etzerdHello all05:32
usr13Amaranth, You might try recovering the partition table05:32
silentLindar, if you're on windows run putty to ssh in or if you're on linux type ssh -l <login name> <ip> to ssh to the broken computer05:32
GNineoh well.. maybe Lindar only needs to catch a break.  it helps clear the mind , yknow?05:32
Amaranthusr13: Bad shutdown or something could have done it05:32
usr13Lindar, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:32
LindarThe broken machine can't be networked right now.05:33
etzerdI just install ubuntu 7.10 Beta in my system, and now I don't have the boot manager where I can select the operating system that I wont05:33
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silentLindar, what is broken about it?05:33
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LindarI can't boot. GRUB gives error 24 or 25.05:33
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imyuthi05:33
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etzerdwhen ubuntu boot it give me a grub loader but both options are for ubuntu not the other operating system that on the system05:33
silentare you running livecd or somthing?05:34
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usr13Lindar, Don't need the network.  DO:    sudo fdisk /dev/hdb05:34
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Amaranthusr13: hdb won't have a superblock05:34
kduboisis there any way to force a wireless card to join a network? i have two networks in range, and it won't join the other one....05:34
AmaranthLindar: what partition is it? first one on the second drive?05:34
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silentkdubois, you can join any available network that is supported by your hardware05:34
GNinecheck your firewalls05:34
silentkdubois, so long as you have proper access05:34
usr13Amaranth, But I want to see what error he might get if he does   fdisk /dev/hdb05:34
usr13Lindar,   What does     fdisk -l /dev/hdb     say05:35
Amaranthusr13: right but running fsck on hdb would obviously tell you there is no superblock05:35
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GNineand, there is no "forcing" involved in that.. once the network is detected proper permissions need to be set05:35
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h1st0Amaranth: its on hdb2 according to him.05:35
AmaranthLindar: sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb205:36
usr13Amaranth, Yes, I would imagine so, (if in fact, the partition table is corrupted)05:36
AmaranthLindar: that'll use one of the backup superblocks so it can read the partition correctly05:36
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kduboissilent: i do have access to both, but it always connects to the AP with internet, when I want it to connect to the other one05:36
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LindarThe partition is /dev/hdb205:36
Amaranthusr13: My partition table is fine but running fsck on the drive itself will give that error because it's running on the drive instead of the partition05:36
Lindarthat's the linux part05:36
Lindarhdb1 is the swap05:36
AmaranthLindar: run the command i gave05:36
silentkdubios, sudo iwconfig <wlan0?> essid <network name>05:37
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silentor choose it in network settings under network properties05:37
GNinesystem > network  and  network tools   should be able to help05:37
LindarAmaranth: It didn't work.05:37
AmaranthLindar: What did it say?05:38
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LindarSame thing it's been saying.05:38
puffI have too many files in a directory, the "ls" command results in:  bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long05:38
PepperrrHow can I get a list of installed packages via apt-get?05:38
silentLindar, is hdb messed up?05:38
puffI tried piping it through xargs, but that didn't work.05:38
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Pepperrr*packages installed with apt-get05:38
AmaranthPepperrr: dpkg --get-selections05:38
usr13 Lindar:  Did you do:      sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb2     ?05:38
LindarI'm on the live CD right now. It just keeps saying it can't read superblock or something...05:38
AmaranthPepperrr: that'll give you the status of every package to ever touch your system05:39
LindarI did exactly this:   sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb205:39
lumpycam puff - try ls /path |grep wc -l05:39
PepperrrAmaranth: What about ones installed after I installed Ubuntu?05:39
AmaranthLindar: ok, listen to usr13 then :)05:39
AmaranthPepperrr: them too05:39
AmaranthLindar: if it can't even read the backup superblock you have something bigger wrong05:40
elpIt seems like my system doesn't have any OpenGL libraries which i need to install a game =[05:40
silentLindar, did this drive just recently become corrupted or is this a new drive or a new install on an old drive?05:40
PepperrrAmaranth: No, I mean just ones I've apt-getted after Ubuntu was installed, so I could easy re-download them after a fresh install?05:40
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usr13Lindar,   What does    sudo fdisk -l     say about hdb?  ANything?05:40
LindarIt's an old drive and it's been corrupted before. Is there absolutely any way to recover it?05:40
Lindarhdb has 3 bits to it...05:41
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AmaranthPepperrr: It'll just show all packages05:41
kelvieIs there a way to tell apt-get to install deps only?05:41
kelvieand not the actual package?05:41
AmaranthLindar: The only way I know of to recover data from a dead HD is to send it somewhere05:41
AmaranthLindar: Very expensive05:41
Lindar1 is swap, 2 is linux, 3 is some sort of NTFS thing....05:41
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ScuniziAmaranth, What would you use to find only the programs that the user has installed.. not the entire system?05:41
usr13Lindar,   "hdb has 3 bits to it"?05:42
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t3318anyone know how to change the default desktop themes for new user in Ubuntu?05:42
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ezzieyguywufsystem>preferences>themes05:43
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t3318oh05:43
ezzieyguywufdoes anyone here know what a safe operating temp for a lenovo t60p is?05:43
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AmaranthScunizi: No need, you can just save the output of --get-selections, feed it to the new computer with --set-selections, then run apt-get dselect-upgrade and it'll install all the stuff from that list that isn't already installed05:43
Lindarusr13: assume I have a vagina....05:43
t3318i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme05:43
ezzieyguywufmine usually runs aroun 150 degress F  on feisty with compiz running.....05:43
AmaranthLindar: What does that have to do with anything?05:44
t3318ezzieyguywuf: i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme05:44
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ScuniziAmaranth, the problem being some of the programs aren't installed via apt..05:44
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usr13Lindar,   The drive has 3 partitions - right?   hda1 hda2 and hda305:44
AmaranthScunizi: In that case you just have to know05:44
usr13Lindar, Sounds like a lost cause.05:44
LindarAmaranth: I'm dumb and female. I know nothing about this stuff, I just wanted to try it out so I know how it works.05:44
ScuniziAmaranth, :)05:44
ezzieyguywuft3318: i only have one user on my comp, but i imagine that each user (with sufficient priveleges) could set their own themes05:44
Amarantht3318: you can use /etc/skel05:44
Lindarusr13: Yes.05:44
bruenigScunizi, if you circumvent package management, you can't expect that it will work05:45
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tonyyarussoLindar: gender is irrelevent05:45
Amarantht3318: if you put your .gconf in there all new users will get your .gconf so all your settings05:45
usr13Lindar,   If you cannot do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb       I'd just toss it.05:45
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t3318Amaranth: oh05:45
t3318Amaranth: I will try it :)05:45
Lindarusr13: I can. It tells me that there are three partitions on that hard drive.05:45
Scunizibruenig, true.. however Mapivi is a pretty good program despite a slightly klunky feel.05:45
crush_groovehello room05:45
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ezzieyguywufanyone got any idea on what a safe operating temp is? my lenovo t60p on avg runs at about 150 degrees F05:45
robert_is there a proxy application I can use that logs the traffic which passes through it?05:45
bruenigScunizi, well don't really understand what your point is there05:45
Amarantht3318: I would create a new user, change the theme, then put it's ~/.gconf in /etc/skel05:45
t3318Amaranth: But currently, Ubuntu doesn't have .gconf in skel05:45
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crush_grooveI was getting a bad device error in my shell when I tryed to use any kind of app from the shell .. so I googled the prob and found from an ubuntu forum I needed to edit my xorg.conf. file /../ so I did05:46
Amarantht3318: you put it there05:46
crush_grooveI then restarted xwin with ctrl alt bckspce\05:46
t3318Amaranth: How can Ubuntu define the default theme?05:46
thedonvaughnezzieyguywuf, I'm sure google knows05:46
h1st0Amaranth: what is skel for?05:46
ezzieyguywufi've tried looking05:46
Amarantht3318: The default gconf schema05:46
crush_groovend it shut everythingdown . when I reboot it trys to load ... then goes to a blinking curor .. I cntrl alt f1 .. and get into the shell and replace the file I altered with the backup .. and it still wont boot05:46
ezzieyguywufi keep getting user manuals and whatnot05:46
h1st0Amaranth: skeleton for new users or something?05:46
Lindarezzieyguywuf: I don't know what that is, but a safe core temp is 35-45c. Anything higher and it may be close to damaging it. 55-60c is cutting it close.05:46
crush_grooveso I go back in and do a .. /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it shows the kdm starting yet when I reboot .,.,nuthin05:46
t3318Amaranth: ah ha05:46
Amarantht3318: anything in /etc/skel gets put into a new user's home dir when you create it05:46
Scunizibruenig, asked and answered.. dpkg will only report what has been installed via apt.  anything outside of that "you just have to know" what it is, make a list and reinstall with a new system.05:46
Amarantht3318: it == the user05:47
h1st0Amaranth: nvm cool very nice05:47
t3318Amaranth: yeh, i try it now05:47
usr13Lindar,   If you cam do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb         You might just start over, re-partition it and see if it is usable.05:47
LindarI don't want to reinstall all of that junk, though. ;-;05:47
h1st0Lindar: is yoru /home directory on a seperate partition?05:47
GNineall your system and settings needs can be researched by .. hmm.. system >   and    settings >  menu .. system05:47
Amaranthoh, h1st0 was asking that question, not t331805:47
Amaranthoops05:47
LindarI went through so much trouble getting the netgear wifi thing working...05:47
ezzieyguywufthe one website i found says max operating temp at 35 C and i'm at 61C. thats well over twice!!!!05:47
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LindarNo, /home/ is on the linux part... hdb205:47
AmaranthScunizi: that's why you should use the package manager for everything :)05:47
ezzieyguywufso i don't know if i need to be worried....05:47
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h1st0Lindar: SO i left fsck was unable to fix /dev/hdb2?05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: No computer part has a max temp of 35 C05:48
usr13Lindar, Then put another drive in, install and recover what you cann of the old one.05:48
tonyyarussoezzieyguywuf: what processor?  (35 C is clearly wrong)05:48
Lindarh1st0: yes05:48
ezzieyguywuf*sigh of relief*05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: my CPU's max temp is 100 C and my GPU's max temp is 110 C05:48
ezzieyguywufoh! thats environmental temp05:48
ezzieyguywufhehehehe05:48
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: you're fine :)05:48
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niloc#vague05:48
usr13Lindar, Not sure what to tell you, really.05:48
ezzieyguywufamaranth: thanks, you've put me at ease05:48
nilochelp05:49
ScuniziAmaranth, I do. but mapivi is one of the exceptions.  It's the only program that will imbed exif and other info into jpg's05:49
Lindarblar05:49
GNinelol05:49
LindarI'll just deal with it, I guess.05:49
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GNine110C temp.. ok..05:49
ezzieyguywufthanks guys :-D05:49
LindarAmaranth: My mobo maxes at 40-43c, my cpu runs at about 50c.05:49
Lindaranyway... time to reformat my crappy hdd... yaaay lost data!05:50
AmaranthLindar: Right but that's idle/running temp, not max temp05:50
AmaranthLindar: I would not keep using that HD05:50
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ScuniziAmaranth, also ipsc info.. without using an external database or some type of internal database05:50
AmaranthGNine: Why would I do that?05:50
ezzieyguywufi'm using the system temp checker and theres one for thmo and one for thm1. they're both the same it looks like, but thmo has an * next to it. anyone know what this is about?05:50
GNineto buy a better cooling system for your rig05:51
usr13Amaranth is right.  If it's giving you that much trouble, you should recover what you want off it and move on.05:51
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AmaranthGNine: I said max temp05:51
ezzieyguywufalso, in preferences it asks me which zone to monitor and offers "ACPI" and "IBM ACPI". i'm running a t60p with core duo and an ATI mobility card so i don't know what that ACPI is05:51
AmaranthGNine: Not the max I get to, the max the thing can withstand. Although I have a laptop so I can't add more cooling :)05:51
GNinegodspeed bro05:52
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AmaranthGNine: I actually idle with the CPU at 48C and the GPU at 42C05:52
GNinethat is alright05:52
robert_is there a proxy application I can use/install that logs the traffic which passes through it?05:52
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GNinestill too hot.. then again that IS a laptop05:52
robert_e.g. I want the contents of what passes through the proxy05:52
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HealthyElijahAmaranth: u using the latest gutsy release?05:53
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Up to date as of 30 minutes ago :)05:54
HealthyElijahk05:54
dotjayi have just got ubuntu 7.04 and wheneer i try to install it from the CD after the installation start i get an error message after the splash screen "/bin/sh:can't access tty job contribute off"05:54
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HealthyElijahit said in the improv list that it would help reduce burning lap syndrome ;)05:54
ezzieyguywufamaranth: how do you monitor CPU and GPU temps separately. and what is GPU :P05:54
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AmaranthHealthyElijah: hehe, my laptop is doomed anyway05:54
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HealthyElijahgraphics05:54
ezzieyguywufhaha healthy05:55
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ezzieyguywufoh ok05:55
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ezzieyguywufwhat do you use to monitor them separate?05:55
AmaranthHealthyElijah: it certainly runs cooler thanks to dyntick and making apps go to sleep when they aren't doing stuff but my laptop has thermal issues05:55
chris__whats the channel for compiz etc desktop effects?05:55
AmaranthHealthyElijah: was the first Core Duo laptop HP sold05:55
dotjaywhat is the problem is there any problem with my system or is that the problem with the CD05:55
Amaranthchris__: #ubuntu-effects05:55
HealthyElijahis your fan workin' :)05:55
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Curs0rgnome is taking a long time to start up, when it does there is an error about the settings daemon even though I launched the daemon so I know it's running05:56
h1st0dotjay: Check the cd for dfects05:56
Amaranthezzieyguywuf: I have nvidia so I use nvidia-settings to monitor my GPU temp05:56
h1st0dotjay: err /s/dfects/defects05:56
ezzieyguywufamaranth: your talkin about gutsy? it has better temp control (via app-sleep or w/e?)05:56
ezzieyguywufoh i see05:56
ezzieyguywufi have ATI so i don't know if i have that option05:56
ezzieyguywufi'm running fglrx05:56
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HealthyElijahset it on top off a bowl of ice ;)05:56
phoo_cypher1, im furenku - i fixed the wifi issue - im now using it05:56
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HealthyElijaha big mixing bowl05:56
AmaranthHealthyElijah: It runs but it just runs warm05:57
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dotjaybut when i start that option i get stuck i tried changing the CD it says the same thing05:57
HealthyElijahand then just tape it to it and carry that around wherever you go05:57
AmaranthNo worries, going to toss it soon05:57
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AmaranthLiterally, I have a good warranty ;)05:57
HealthyElijahcarry a cooler with you with extra ice05:57
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dotjaythe problem is not with the cd05:57
Amaranthdotjay: Ah, I've seen this problem05:57
GNinei've seen cool designes for external laptop cooling devices05:58
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GNine*designs05:58
dotjayAmarnath: so how can i fix this problem?05:58
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HealthyElijahthis channel has almost twice as many as teh linux channel05:58
ScuniziCurs0r, at the end of your "kernal" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst insert "irqpoll". that might fix it.05:58
Amaranthdotjay: Try the Ubuntu 7.10 Beta cd instead, looks like that's a hardware support issue05:58
ezzieyguywufoh, this might be off topic, but i'm looking for some .wav files for alerts (like in thunderbird and whatnot) to replace the system beeps05:59
HealthyElijahdotjay: I second Amaranth05:59
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ezzieyguywufis there anywhere i can get a package or something?05:59
dotjaysure05:59
dotjaybut how could that be i have i845G gigabyte05:59
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Amaranthdotjay: Intel motherboard with a jmicron sata controller05:59
HealthyElijahyou mean iram?06:00
dotjaywith 512 MB RAM 40 GB samsung06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Is it a newer motherboard06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Newer meaning less than a year old06:00
dotjaybbut that has supported 6.06 and previous versions06:00
ezzieyguywufamaranth: you recomend gutsy or wait for official release?06:00
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Amaranthdotjay: Odd06:00
piripakhi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?06:00
HealthyElijahgutsy is darn near official06:00
Amaranthdotjay: Either way, try the 7.10 beta06:01
ezzieyguywufyea?06:01
ezzieyguywufi mean, my main concern is fglrx06:01
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Amaranthdotjay: Your bug is never going to be fixed with 7.04 but there is still a chance with 7.10 (it isn't final yet)06:01
HealthyElijahdont think they are gonna make any major changes when just weeks away06:01
ezzieyguywufit was such a pain getting it configed06:01
ezzieyguywufand workin with 3d and compiz06:01
AmaranthHealthyElijah: We are tweaking stuff a lot06:01
dotjayAmarnath but I bought this PC 2 yrs back06:01
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ezzieyguywufis there a website i can visit to see what changes were made from feisty?06:01
HealthyElijahnice06:01
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Just yesterday I made 4 changes to the way compiz works06:01
HealthyElijahyou a programmer Cool!06:02
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Amaranthdotjay: It's a regression then, either way try 7.1006:02
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eggdwhat codecs should i install?06:02
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HealthyElijahI hope to be able to contirbute to this project someday06:02
eggdfor common mp3, avi, dvd usage06:02
Amarantheggd: If you're using 7.04 it will install them as needed06:02
Amarantheggd: Except for the dvd one, that you have to do manually06:03
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HealthyElijahAmaranth: How long have you been involved06:03
g3r4kvnhello!06:03
g3r4kvnn00b here06:03
ezzieyguywufhey me too!06:03
g3r4kvn: )06:03
ezzieyguywufbeen usin feisty since saturday :-D06:03
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ezzieyguywufi'm really likin so far, how bout you g3?06:03
novato_brdudes, i download the gusty's iso, how can i update my feisty fawn to gusty ?06:03
g3r4kvni just finished installing : )06:03
AmaranthHealthyElijah: Been using Ubuntu since the first release, contributing since early 200506:04
ezzieyguywufsudo apt-get upgrade06:04
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ezzieyguywufi don't think oyu need the iso, can anyone confirm that?06:04
g3r4kvni tried SUSE and KNOPPIX before, now im with... Gudalinex :P06:04
Flannelezzieyguywuf: correct.  You don't need the CD/iso to upgrade.06:04
ezzieyguywufg3: what machine are you running it on06:04
g3r4kvnbut i have serious issues with my sound card ;_;06:04
ezzieyguywufgudalinex? haven't heard of it06:04
g3r4kvnim on a Acer Aspire06:04
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ezzieyguywufi see06:04
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novato_brbut sudo apt-get upgrade, is it install updates from net?06:04
g3r4kvnguadalinex is a local from spain...06:05
HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: g3r4kvn: Me too06:05
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novato_bri want to update with iso !06:05
ezzieyguywufi been thinkin about giving linux mint a walk around the park06:05
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Amaranthnovato_br: sudo update-manager -d06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: Oh, you _want_ to use the ISO06:05
HealthyElijahAmaranth: Is an update recommended or clean install06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: In that case you need to burn it06:05
novato_bryep, Amaranth06:05
Amaranthnovato_br: Or mount it but that's a little trickier06:05
novato_brdoesnt has other way?06:05
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riotkittiehow bizzarre06:06
Amaranthnovato_br: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the.iso /media/cdrom06:06
HealthyElijahBeen using Fiesty since 1 month ago06:06
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piripak hi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?06:06
g3r4kvnanyone from spain or latinamerica or wishing to help me with my sound card issues?06:06
HealthyElijahStill have no clue of big picture06:06
Amaranthnovato_br: Hopefully it'll pop up automatically and ask if you want to upgrade06:06
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novato_brthx, Amaranth06:06
Amaranthpiripak: Tells wget to output to stdout06:07
Amaranthpiripak: instead of writing to a file06:07
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ezzieyguywufhealthy: what do you mean big picture?06:07
HealthyElijahHey Amaranth what browser do you use? FF or Opera?06:07
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nickrudAmaranth: how does having net installed stuff affect an iso upgrade? I'd guess there might be some holds and/or conficts06:07
HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: What all teh files do from root06:07
Amaranthnickrud: It'll download from the net06:08
piripakAmaranth: I assume stdout is like a temporary place. I will start from that on my next google search. thanks06:08
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riotkittiehm. it's not possible to install ubuntu from a mounted iso a la slackware, is it? =|06:08
AmaranthHealthyElijah: I use epiphany06:08
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HealthyElijahLike how C and C++ work and how to compile programs etc06:08
Amaranthpiripak: stdout is the output on the terminal06:08
HealthyElijahAmaranth: thanks06:08
Flannelpiripak: standard output06:08
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Amaranthpiripak: the | is called a pipe, it pipes the output to another app06:08
novato_bramadeux,06:09
novato_bri did06:09
Amaranthpiripak: so you're telling wget to output the URL instead of writing it to a file then telling apt-key to read that06:09
novato_brbut it's not asked for me to install06:09
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Amaranthnovato_br: I can't remember what to do then and I don't have a copy of the iso here to look06:09
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piripakAmaranth: and the last - (in | apt-key add -) is exactly where you should input the file you just read, is that it?06:10
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Flannelnovato_br: Is it the alternate CD?06:10
Amaranthnovato_br: There should be a shell script or something on the main dir of the iso you run to make it trigger to upgrade06:10
novato_brok06:10
novato_brno Flannel06:10
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novato_bri have cd desktop install of gusty06:10
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t3318_Amaranth: I copy .gconf* .gnome* .icons .metacity .nautilus .themes into the /etc/skel06:10
Amaranthpiripak: that tells apt-key to read from stdin, the pipe (|) turns wget's stdout into apt-key's stdin06:10
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Flannelnovato_br: you need the alternate CD to do an upgrade from an ISO.06:11
t3318_Amaranth: But new user ca'nt load the expected desktop06:11
Flannelnovato_br, Amaranth: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"06:11
t3318_Amaranth: there's only a brown background06:11
t3318_nothing else!06:11
Amarantht3318_: I told you to make a new user, make that one change, and copy only the .gconf06:11
ezzieyguywufis there any way to take KDE for a test drive with feisty, or do i have to just run it off a live Cd of Kubuntu feisty06:11
Amarantht3318_: You can't copy stuff from your current user blindly and expect it to work06:11
piripakAmaranth: this is very clear. thanks06:11
Flannelezzieyguywuf: you could install it on your install.  That might be less test-drivey than youre looking for.06:12
t3318_Amaranth: uhm06:12
t3318_Amaranth: I can only change in the .gconf folder?06:12
novato_brthx06:12
Amarantht3318_: No but a lot of stuff in ~/.gnome2 only works with your current user, iirc06:12
novato_brdont work, Flannel06:13
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ezzieyguywufflannel: could i, say, choose on boot to run KDE or GNOME?06:13
Flannelnovato_br: You need the alternate CD, like I said.06:13
IndyGunFreak!doesn'twork06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:13
Flannelezzieyguywuf: Not on boot, on login, but yeah.06:14
novato_brthx, flacom06:14
novato_brthx, flannel06:14
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novato_brbut i don't have the alternative cd06:14
ezzieyguywuflogin, yea, cool06:14
ezzieyguywufi might do that06:14
IceGuest_7O-kay.  I'm having dire wifi issues, what should I try? :\06:14
ezzieyguywufi'm sure i could easily find a howto right, prob a common thing to do06:14
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novato_brhow can I update with cd desktop ubuntu gutsy ?06:14
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Amaranthnovato_br: Oh, you have the desktop cd?06:14
IndyGunFreaki just did clean installs of gutsy on my laptop and Desktop, smooth as silk06:14
Amaranthnovato_br: That can only do new installs, not upgrades06:14
novato_bryep06:14
t3318_Amaranth: aha06:15
novato_brwhy?06:15
Amaranthnovato_br: Because it doesn't have any packages on it06:15
nickrudezzieyguywuf: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , done. There's your howto :)06:15
Amaranthnovato_br: The Desktop CD has a full working install on it that gets copied onto your HD when you do an install06:15
novato_bri'll cry06:15
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HornetI'm using Mint, but apparently the issue belongs to the underlying Ubuntu. :(06:16
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novato_brshould I have download the alternative version?06:16
ezzieyguywufnickrud: really that easy?06:16
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Amaranthnovato_br: There is no possible way to upgrade using that iso, burned or not06:16
Amaranthnovato_br: Yes06:16
HornetI've tried a fair bit of faffing, but to no avail.06:16
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novato_bri'll cry, dudes06:16
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Amaranthnovato_br: Although it's easier to just do an internet upgrade06:16
nickrudezzieyguywuf: yes. same for xubuntu-desktop (xfce)06:16
novato_brmy net is very slow06:16
ezzieyguywufnickrud: i'd hate to have some compatibilty issues or whatnot06:16
Amaranthnovato_br: If your /home is on a separate partition you could just do a new install06:16
novato_brit tooks more 17hours to take the iso06:16
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ezzieyguywufbut i guess that'd be confined to my KDE session huh....06:16
IndyGunFreak17hrs?06:16
illusinaCan someone help me out? I can't get firefox to use my external usb mixer, but other programs work fine with it..using feisty, the mixer is a alesis multimix, I get nothing from "asoundconf list", but I do have a few options in my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file that seem to be pertaining to the mixer that I've tried toying with to no avail06:16
IndyGunFreakwow.06:16
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JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up a cryptfs device, et cetera?06:17
nickrudezzieyguywuf: except for kde being a lesser desktop, no conflicts. They coexist nicely06:17
Flannelezzieyguywuf: Well, you can do a fresh install with that CD.  If you've got your home folder on its own partition, that's ok.06:17
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ezzieyguywufflannel:man i had a hard time with my partitioning06:17
ezzieyguywufflannel: i think it had something to do with windows taking up 2 partitions, swap taking another, then i could only use one more06:18
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Flannelezzieyguywuf: You can have as many partitions as you want, you just need to make them logical partitins06:18
tylermenezesi had a problem with my partitioning too06:18
IndyGunFreakwhy would someone mess up a perfectly good Ubuntu install with KDE?06:18
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Amaranthezzieyguywuf: You can only have 4 primary partitions but you could have made that last spot into a place to put as many extended partitions as you wanted06:19
tylermenezesgparted always crashes when partitioning06:19
tylermenezes:(06:19
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kidbuntu!realplayer06:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:19
ezzieyguywufflannel: oh, i was making them all primary06:19
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HornetAnyone? :\06:19
HornetIt's an Atheros, I've installed madwifi, nothing's working though.06:19
ezzieyguywufflannel: ah but i remember, i couldn't figure out how to make the logical partitions under the primary root partition, or something like that.....06:19
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ezzieyguywufflannel: during the install that is06:20
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JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?06:21
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joshhunthey, can anyone access http://www.lighttpd.net fine?06:21
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chalcedonydoes anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty06:22
riotkittieHornet: is it showing under ifconfig?06:22
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HornetOne sec.06:22
usr13Hornet, Does your interface detect an essid?06:22
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usr13Hornet, iwconfig06:23
chalcedonyjoshhunt: it works fine for me06:23
HornetUsing iwconfig, yes.06:23
joshhuntwell, for me it just sends me to google06:23
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usr13What essid does it show?06:23
HornetI've already tried using a wpa_supplicant thingy, which may be why.06:23
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HornetX, which should be accurate.06:23
Viroohi06:23
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chalcedonyjoshhunt: i have it .. dunno what did you need on it?06:24
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VirooI have a qs related to choosing a good hardware that fits well with ubuntu06:24
t3318_Amaranth: yep, .gconf work :)06:24
joshhuntnothing, its just odd thats all06:24
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AishikoViroo what type of hardware?06:25
chalcedonydoes anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty06:25
Viroowhat is the best compitable motherboard, graphix card and stuff06:25
Hornetusr13: it's set to X, which is the network name.06:25
ezzieyguywufif HOME is set in a separate logical partition, and a new version of linux is installed, what advantages does that have?06:25
VirooI mean best with ubuntu that gets all parts recognized out of the box06:26
usr13Hornet Someone else will have to help you with wap06:26
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dcodeI want to build packages for amd64 from an unofficial repository that provide the original sources and patches, but only i386 binaries...when I do apt-get -b source foo, it downloads the version in the official repository...how do I fix this?  Do I need to pin the packages?06:26
ezzieyguywufnvidia06:26
ezzieyguywuf*viroo06:26
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ezzieyguywufi know that much (for a laptop)06:26
usr13Hornet, I have yet to use wap06:26
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chalcedonyis anyone else using gaim ?06:26
Hornetusr13: Fair enough.06:26
Virooso nvidia is better supported than radeon ?06:26
t3318_chalcedony: gaim is pidgin now06:26
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ezzieyguywufi'm using pidgin (new GAIM)06:27
usr13I would only suggest turning off wap   temporarily, see that you can get it to connect first, and go from there.06:27
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Hornetjmorse30 - James or Jeremy? :)06:27
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chalcedonyt3318_: for ubuntu it's still gaim06:27
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dcodechalcedony, in gutsy its pidgin06:27
Hornetusr13, I can't, sadly.  It's used by other computers.06:28
AishikoViroo: really any will  work, however like all Linux distros, you have to remember Nvidia video cards are better supported, Intel, VIA, and then ATI northbridges/southbridges/host-controllors are better supported, otherwise everything else is pretty much teh same06:28
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t3318_chalcedony: ou should change to pidgin06:28
JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?06:28
nrdbis it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?06:28
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ezzieyguywufaishiko: if i'm not mistaken, ATI support is not the best06:28
VirooI see06:28
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AishikoViroo: Nvidia actually makes Linux drivers for thier cards06:29
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Viroogood, I asked because i've heard ati gave their drivers to open source06:29
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ezzieyguywufviroo: I wish!!!06:29
Virooso i thought it might be better supported06:29
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Aishikoezzieyguywuf: it's better supported for motherboard hardware then nForce is and ATI just releaced all the specs on thier video cards so they'll get better supported in time06:30
Viroothey did few weeks ago06:30
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ezzieyguywufaishiko: that is fantastic news06:30
AishikoViroo: it will be a long time before they're up to the same level of support as Nvidia06:30
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Virooi see06:30
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Viroook then nvidia will be my choice06:31
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HornetAnyone else had issues with an apparent lack of WPA support?06:31
Viroohow about the logical board, i prefere intel brand i feel it is always very compitable with linux due to cooperative intel06:31
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JamesinatorHornet: Do you have an RT / Ralink card?06:31
AishikoViroo: I tend to stick with Nvidia VIDEO Card, and then Via, Intel, nForce or SiS for the Motherboard's hardware if I can, and then an AMD CPU06:32
HornetJamesinator: Atheros06:32
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Viroook got it Aishiko thanks06:32
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JamesinatorHornet: Ah. I don't know how well WPA is supported on anything else, but on cards with Ralink chipsets it's a pain in the neck06:33
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AishikoViroo: Intel is a big supporter, but having said that They've fallen behind AMD for pushing the boundries of CPU tech, right now they are using AMD's 64 bit extenstion code to make their 64bit CPUs work as an example06:33
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Viroowho asked about ralkink chips? I have a dlink usb wireless, it needed some work to work on edgy eft, but it was working out of the box with gusty, and it is based on ralink chip06:33
dotjaywhen is the release date for 7.1006:33
usr13Hornet,  See: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html06:34
Aishikodotjay sometime this month06:34
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nrdbwith vmware and 7.04 the message "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" means ?06:34
HornetBleh.  *WHY* do all network help articles use apt-bloody-get?06:34
JamesinatorViroo: Gutsy seems to support Ralink chipsets with nm-manager **better** out of the box, but it's still a risky business. On feisty however, it was practically impossible without some major hacks to get Ralink+WPA working.06:34
HornetThanks, though.06:35
usr13Hornet,  See:  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA06:35
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ezzieyguywufwhere can i see updates present in gutsy?06:35
AishikoViroo: your welcome, Odds are good that on the Motherboard front that any motherboard you get will work :)06:35
nrdbHornet: because everyone has it I suppose.06:35
novato_brAmaranth, plz, explain me, why desktop CD doesnt update the feisty fawn ubuntu instalation ?06:35
patbami am getting " Illegal instruction"  when i try to run python, it has been running fine for a long time. could something have updated automaticallly?06:35
JamesinatorIs there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?06:35
Hornetnrdb: it's completely useless though if you don't have internet access. :P06:36
ezzieyguywufnovato:it reinstalls linux i believe06:36
Hornetnrdb: Which is why you'd be reading the thing in the first place, surely.06:36
VirooAishiko: thats good news.. I wonder if ubuntu prepared a list with hardware with priority.. this would help alot06:36
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tarelerulzI installed  Adobe Flash Player version 9 for my amd 64  ubuntu and It works ,but I can hear it . I think it is not use my USB sound card and I am wondernig  if anyone know to make it do such06:36
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novato_brall versions should update the feisty fawn.06:36
JamesinatorHornet: Not necessarily. If you have a repository entry for a live cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get will just install off of that06:36
nrdbHornet: you have a point.06:36
JamesinatorHornet: So there is some point to it, at least06:37
ezzieyguywufsudo apt-get upgrade      updates feisty fawn06:37
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ezzieyguywuf*novato06:37
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LoneShado1I forgot to  burn the .iso as image into the cd, any simple way to install from feisty from .iso, I currently have a working debian 3.0 system06:37
ezzieyguywufmaybe i don't understand what your asking06:37
novato_bri cant download from net, ezzieyguywuf06:37
novato_bri took the cd06:38
ezzieyguywufnovato: but your on gaim aren't you?06:38
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patbami am getting " Illegal instruction"  when i try to run python, it has been running fine for a long time. could something have updated automaticallly?06:38
patbamack sorry accidental paste06:38
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AishikoViroo: no they havn't however they have a list of hardware that the users (you and me) have compiled that list known good (and the version it was tested under) and known bad/unworking/limited (and the version it was tested under) for anything that might fail.  Mobo/sound/video/ethernet/etc.  However I forget the link it is on the ubuntu website with the documentation though.06:40
LoneShado1!debootstrap06:40
ubotudebootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into.06:40
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LoneShado1can I debootstrap install from a iso ?06:40
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skinnypuppy1334Anyone successfully porting gnome-session through ssh -X ? I've got one gutsy one fiesty and one dapper on my lan , open ssh on each and it works great one program at a time but I want to have one machine with a gnome session of the remote machines in another f2 or f12 terminal like mentioned in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544567&highlight=ssh+gnome-session06:41
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Curs0rgnome takes a long time to load and shows this error http://rafb.net/p/1aX1fI84.html06:42
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Marfion the menu bar, all of the objects under "applications" have disapeared, but i can see the things that are under places and system. anyone know how to fix it?06:42
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skinnypuppy1334right click on menus and choose edit06:43
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t3318_Amaranth: Do you know how to change the default ubuntu gconf schema?06:43
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skinnypuppy1334right click on the applications menu that is06:44
Amarantht3318_: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/gconf-7.html06:44
skinnypuppy1334Anyone here doing remote gnome session with ssh?06:45
skinnypuppy1334Like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544567&highlight=ssh+gnome-session06:45
ezzieyguywufso i'm trying to run KDE as a test run with the option to run GDE on login, but its askin me which one i want to use as default06:45
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ezzieyguywufis this easily changeable in the future if i want to?06:45
t3318_Amaranth: I try it now06:45
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skinnypuppy1334you can choose each time you login06:45
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skinnypuppy1334default is the one it launches if you don't choose06:46
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jrattner1Question: How can I find all the subdomains of a domain name?06:46
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: accept gdm as the default login manager06:46
nrdbjrattner1: without access to the server i don't think you can.06:46
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jrattner1nrdb, ...06:47
nickrudezzieyguywuf: you can choose kde or gnome under sessions when you log in06:47
Suicide_Guy2gook so grub updated itself and cleared my windows information from menu.lst and im not sure how to get it back06:47
Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_GDM_Sessions06:47
ezzieyguywufnickrud: thanks06:47
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: the Exec line would be ssh -X user@host gnome-session06:47
skinnypuppy1334Amaranth thank you again !!!06:47
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: make sure you can login to those machines without a password06:48
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: otherwise it will mess up06:48
skinnypuppy1334I belive I tried it with  ssh -X user@host gnome-session06:48
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skinnypuppy1334OK I haven't tried nopass in the config06:48
nickrudSuicide_Guy2go: what is your windows partition?06:48
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: yes but you had a gnome-session already running locally, no?06:48
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skinnypuppy1334yes06:48
ezzieyguywufanyone here have any experience with linux mint, i've been thinkin bout tryin it06:48
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: this is making a separate thing you choose when you login06:48
skinnypuppy1334I wanted to have one machine at f2 another at f12 and local at f7 is what I am trying to accomplish06:49
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Suicide_Guy2goits /dev/sda106:49
arrrghhhhi all, i need some help with dhcp06:49
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: you could just use vnc06:49
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arrrghhhand setting up a dhcp server so my 2nd nic card can serve internet to another device06:50
skinnypuppy1334Going to try with ssh first. I'll read that link you sent me . Thanks06:50
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ezzieyguywufhow do you check which version of ubuntu your running (in the command prompt)06:51
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arrrghhhuname -r is the kernel06:51
nickrudSuicide_Guy2go: http://pastebin.ca/722623 , put that at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, after the line with AUTOMAGIC in it, so it's not touched by update-grub06:51
tronushey all... is there a way to reset gnome back to default... i saved my session and logged out... not i can log back in06:51
tronusnow i cant i mean06:51
lumpycamexec debian_version06:51
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skinnypuppy1334Amaranth: when you refer to without password do you mean the ssh_config setting ?06:52
lumpycamoops, sorry06:52
nrdbis it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?06:52
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arrrghhhnrdb: editing fstab06:52
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ezzieyguywufi sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but when i lsb_release -a it still says feisty06:52
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: I mean using public/private keys to do a secure passwordless login06:52
ezzieyguywufis restart recquired?06:52
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ezzieyguywuf(also said 0 packages updated)06:52
berenthow do i enable mysql on xampp06:52
arrrghhhezzieyguywuf: gusty isn't *official* yet06:52
nrdbarrrghhh: if I put anthing in fstab it gets auto mounted.06:53
bruenigezzieyguywuf, did you modify the sources.list?06:53
navets_I need some help at the command line, how do I use an else statement in cshell06:53
arrrghhhnrdb: i thought that's what you were asking about...06:53
navets_it wont work for me, I dont know why06:53
ezzieyguywufbruenig: no how do i do that?06:53
Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication06:53
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Amaranthskinnypuppy1334: in this case you can be fine creating a key with no password since it's all on the LAN06:54
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skinnypuppy1334I'll check that link thank you06:54
Curs0rapparently l0 isn't listening at 127.0,0.106:54
nrdbarrrghhh: I don't want it auto mounted, so I am using the 'disk mounter' applet, it is mounting the drive 'noexec' I want to change this.06:55
Suicide_Guy2gonickrud, thank you very much! it worked!06:55
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ezzieyguywufbruenig: how do i modify the sources list?06:55
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arrrghhhah... ok06:55
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bruenigezzieyguywuf, #ubuntu+106:55
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ezzieyguywufbruenig: i'm sorry i don't know what that means (still a noob. just intalled feisty on sat)06:56
bruenigezzieyguywuf, click on it06:56
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ezzieyguywufbruenig: not clickable06:56
bruenigezzieyguywuf, hold shift down and then click on it06:56
Iceshadowcypher1: i talked to you earlier about that libstdc++, remember that?06:56
ezzieyguywufbruenig: that just kind of hightlights everything int he window after then then unhighlights it cascade-like (kind nifty)06:57
HealthyElijahAishiko: where is that list?06:57
bruenigezzieyguywuf, use a real irc client06:57
bruenig!info xchat06:57
AucklaAlot of you guys are connecting from edu's. :)06:57
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB06:57
AishikoHealthyElijah: what list?06:57
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ezzieyguywufsuch as?06:57
HealthyElijahhardware report on thebackscroll06:58
nickrudvirtual internships06:58
HealthyElijahcompatibility06:58
bruenigwell ubotu has a good idea06:58
KalEl!gusty06:58
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)06:58
HealthyElijahthis channel is huge btw06:58
AishikoHealthyElijah: I gave the only directions to the list that I remember I don't have it bookmarked or memorized the address, just go to teh Ubuntu doc umentation and look around06:59
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HealthyElijahk06:59
KalElsorry... but in which channel can i get help regarding gusty installation, please?06:59
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nickrudKalEl: #ubuntu+106:59
HealthyElijahKalEl: this is it06:59
AishikoKalEl: this channel if some one can06:59
KalElok thanks06:59
KalElwhile installation, the process freezes for me, when it is at the second stage "Modifying the software channels"07:00
KalElany tip on what i can do to go past that will be very helpful07:00
HealthyElijahu upgrading or clean install07:00
KalElupgrading07:01
KalElfrom 7.0407:01
HealthyElijahusing iso?07:01
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mercgutsy, i thought wasnt out yet?07:01
KalElnot using iso, using update-manager -d07:01
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KalElmerc: beta07:01
mercah07:01
Aishikomerc beta I'vbe been using ofr over a month now07:01
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merchow's the compiz fusion effects?07:02
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merci heard there was like, low medium and high settings07:02
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HealthyElijahKalEl: I think you should download the ISO, one of the Ubuntu team members was saying that before07:02
Aishikomerc it's preinstalled with no way to modify the settings you have to add that package, but I removed it07:02
mercyikes :\07:02
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HealthyElijahCF ROCKS07:03
vmlinuz`whats the command to check if that specific package is really installed in my pc from apt-get?07:03
ezzieyguywufany one upgraded to gutsy with thi? sudo sed -e 's/\sfeisty/ gutsy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list07:03
ezzieyguywufsudo apt-get update07:03
ezzieyguywufsudo apt-get upgrade07:03
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HealthyElijahU shouldnt upgrade that wayt07:03
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ezzieyguywufhealthy: why not?07:04
mercezzieyguywuf: i dont think that's 'recommended'07:04
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HealthyElijaha developer was in here earlier and said not to,07:04
nickrudvmlinuz`: apt-cache policy <package>07:04
ezzieyguywufso what should i do?07:04
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HealthyElijahyou should upgrade with an iso burned to cd07:04
vmlinuz`nickrud: thank you07:04
JamesinatorWhen I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?07:04
Aishikomerc: CF is just to make things "pretty" and to eat CPU cycles and degrtade performance07:04
ezzieyguywufhealthy: that won't just reinstall? that will actually upgrade?07:04
vmlinuz`nickrud: ok i have ssh installed but checking that like this "apt-cache policy ssh" didnt give me any result, it gave me like error i think07:05
nickrudezzieyguywuf: I did, except the last command was apt-get dist-upgrade, repeated a couple of times07:05
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HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: I have no clue but I read a blog a few weeks ago that said he ended up having to do a clean install because things went awry07:05
nickrudvmlinuz`: that would be ssh-server , the package name07:05
NotFBIhey guys07:05
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ezzieyguywufwhen gutsy releases officially, will just a plain ole upgrade and dist-upgrade do the trick or will the .iso method still be necessary?07:05
vmlinuz`nickrud: hm, thanks. how did you know.. actually i was trying to figure out how to know my package currect name  too haha07:05
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HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: dunno <-- noob here07:05
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ezzieyguywufnoob here too lol07:06
nickrudezzieyguywuf: iso is NOT needed, you can use upgrade-manager -d07:06
mercezzieyguywuf: i doubt you will need the iso.07:06
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vmlinuz`nickrud: it gave me this07:06
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HealthyElijahhow do you do the actions in IRC?07:06
vmlinuz`  Installed: (none)07:06
vmlinuz`  Candidate: (none)07:06
ezzieyguywufnickrud: that is after the official release correct?07:06
mercHealthyElijah: /me does things07:06
JamesinatorWhen I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?07:06
ezzieyguywufsince the beta is recquiring some messin with the source list07:06
nickrudvmlinuz`: then you have issues with your sources; do apt-get update and check again.07:06
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: yes07:06
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, some people have nightmare problems when upgrading. It's just easier to backup ~/user  and fresh install07:06
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vmlinuz`nickrud: well yea but i have ssh installed, im pretty sure.07:06
mercJamesinator: how'd you get a blank password? (it might be set to not allow blank passwords.)07:07
QanadinWhere do I find Quicktime for Ubuntu?07:07
Qanadinanybody know?07:07
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, and upgraders slow down repos anyways. causing more headaches for people trying to get updates07:07
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AucklaFfmpeg thing.07:07
Jamesinatormerc: I passwd -d the account that I wanted to have its password blanked07:07
vmlinuz`how do i add my username to the sudoer so it doesn't ask me for my passwd everytime i do "sudo"07:07
mercQanadin: check out the forums, there's a way to get all those kinds of playback abilities(mp3,wmv, all that)07:07
ezzieyguywufkahrytan: what is tha advantage of saving ~/home07:07
nickrudvmlinuz`: try dpkg -l ssh-server07:07
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Aucklavmlinuz`, Add yourself to wheel?07:07
bullgard4What programs will use an entry  "mode 0666" such as an entry 'Section "DRI" Mode0666'  in xorg.conf?07:08
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, ummm... a backup and you can save it to new install.07:08
mercJamesinator: i'd imagine its a gdm thing..i guess(just speculating)07:08
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vmlinuz`nickrud: un  ssh-server                    <none>                        (no description available)07:08
nickrudvmlinuz`: sorry, it's openssh-server07:08
vmlinuz`Auckla: um, thanks.07:08
Jamesinatormerc: I figured, but I guess I can try and find the gdm conf and see if there's a directive there I can change07:08
riotkittieoh yea i need to set up ssh.07:08
vmlinuz`Auckla: how to do that tho :p im new to ubuntu07:08
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, ~/user has all your prefs and files. .07:08
KalElHealthyElijah: thanks, i suppose then i will wait till the final release comes out07:08
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mcquaidhello, my brother is building a new puter, and he's concerned about getting 4gigs.  He said both linux and xp (non 64 bit versions) do not support 4 gigs07:08
mercJamesinator: it might even be in the init script for it.07:08
ezzieyguywufkahyrtan: yea but its pretty much empty except for some pictures i got in there. what prefs?07:08
mcquaidI said 4 gigs is the limit for 32 bit operating systems07:08
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nickrudmcquaid: yes, actual useage is about 3.2gb I hear07:09
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, press ctrl-h in home folder07:09
vmlinuz`nickrud: yea that one is installed for me, but I can't remember that I did "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" hmm weird. did synaptic did it for me automatically you think?07:09
HealthyElijahKalEl: I will to but I am still going to do a fresh install since I installed Compiz Fusion over Fiesty07:09
Qanadinthanks merc!!07:09
mercJamesinator: http://www.nabble.com/login-without-password-t3888878.html might be of interest07:09
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mcquaidhmmm07:09
mercQanadin: no prob, i take it you found it :)07:09
Qanadinyeah07:09
merccool07:09
Jamesinatormerc: Thanks, I'll try and read it (rather difficult using lynx and irssi in recovery console. :P)07:09
ezzieyguywufi see07:09
Aucklavmlinuz`, That is a good question, I don't know how to do that in Linux I guess. :P07:09
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kahrytan!clone | ezzieyguywuf07:10
ubotuezzieyguywuf: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate07:10
vmlinuz`Auckla: hehe07:10
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  !clone and ~/user backup. and Reinstall is painless.07:10
vmlinuz`nickrud: whats the usage to netstat all the listetning ports?07:10
KalElHealthyElijah: ok... i don't have compiz installed, but i suppose if i am to download the iso, it better be the final version - that way i save a CD :)07:10
nickrudvmlinuz`: there's a metapackage called ssh ; it installs the client and server ( apt-cache depends ssh)07:10
ezzieyguywufwhat is !clone07:10
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nickrudvmlinuz`: sudo netstat -tlp07:10
KalEli see the problem07:11
KalElhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_IN.bz207:11
darkchr0n0swhat does this mean n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee07:11
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, makes a list of installed package in event you have to reinstall ubuntu.07:11
KalElthis file does not exist in the server07:11
KalEl!!!07:11
ezzieyguywufjust run that in terminal?07:11
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Jamesinatormerc: Thanks for that link, I'm going to try the fix he supplied07:11
vmlinuz`wow nice :) I have ssh there.07:11
jack|assAnyone seeing problems with Firefox in Gutsy?  Random crashing.07:11
nickrudHealthyElijah: you can prep for an upgrade by commenting out all third party repos, checking for obsolete packages in synaptic, and removing them07:11
mercJamesinator: no problem, dont blame me when your keyboard explodes!07:11
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Hobbseedarkchr0n0s: it's a cloak07:11
jack|assGeneral making baby jesus cry behavior?07:11
kahrytan!automate07:12
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning07:12
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nickrudHealthyElijah: after updating sources after removing third party, that is.07:12
darkchr0n0sHobbsee , how can i get one ?07:12
ezzieyguywufi think i'm gonna hold of on upgrading for a while, till i can assure i can do it with no screups07:12
Jamesinatormerc: Aaaaauuugh! My eyes! Plastic fragments! *whimpers*07:12
Hobbsee!participate | darkchr0n0s07:12
ubotudarkchr0n0s: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate07:12
HealthyElijahnickrud: over my head right now07:12
Hobbseedarkchr0n0s: by becomming a ubuntu member.07:12
Aishikojack|ass: yes it crashes on downloads if you are not in the default theme07:12
vmlinuz`nickrud: When I don't use sudo for a few mins then i use it, it keep asking me for my root password again. How to stop that. add myself to sudoer right?07:12
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unjusticeanyone know how to fix I/O problems with Xsane scanner for Unbutu Feisty Fawn07:12
unjustice?07:12
ezzieyguywufhealthy: are you going to upgrade to gutsy?07:12
mercJamesinator: hehe.. :)07:12
darkchr0n0sHobbsee , hmmm... lets see07:13
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astro76vmlinuz`, in Ubuntu you use the admin group to get sudo access, but that doesn't remove the need for your password. Also sudo uses your user not root password07:13
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, I will.  its more usef friendly07:13
nickrudvmlinuz`: no, it times out in case you walk away from the keyboard. You can change the timeout time, but I don't remember offhand where07:13
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, and ill upgrade to Hard y Heron too07:13
vmlinuz`okay, well I remember something mention to me "Sudoers"07:14
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  though, anyone who uses ubuntu for home or server will upgrade to hardy07:14
ezzieyguywufkayhtytan: i want to, but like healthy i'm still real new to linux (i think this is my 6 day) and i don't want to have to fresh install and i don't want to mess up my fglrx which took so long to set up07:14
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ezzieyguywufwhen is hardy do, six months from now?07:14
jack|assAishiko: this is just opening it and going to a webpage.07:14
nickrudvmlinuz`: you can use that to remove the need to enter the password. I'll never do that, personally07:14
jack|assAishiko: is there a way to fix this?  I am in the default theme I think07:14
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vmlinuz`nickrud: okay07:14
Aishikojack|ass: then no I don't have the problem07:14
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  If all goes as planned, April07:14
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kahrytan!hardy07:14
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ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron07:14
ezzieyguywufis ubotu a bot?07:15
mercezzieyguywuf: yes. uBOTu07:15
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  What gave you that idea :-P07:15
astro76vmlinuz`, yeah it would be in sudoers, I also wouldn't recommend it :p07:15
nickrud!ubotu07:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:15
ezzieyguywufoh hahahaha07:15
jack|assAishiko: default theme in firefox?  Or the Human theme for Ubuntu?07:15
kahrytan!botsnack07:15
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:15
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Aishikojack|ass: the theme for Ubuntu,07:15
=== kahrytan hug ubotu
josiahI have a Palm Treo 700wx. I want to either find software for syncing or a howto for Ubuntu or I would like to load linux onto it. Any Ideas, links?07:15
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ezzieyguywuf!ubotu07:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:16
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ezzieyguywufwoah!07:16
ezzieyguywufwhat does the exclamation do there?07:16
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, responds to !info packagename07:16
ezzieyguywufoh07:16
jack|assAishiko: that seems weird that that would matter.07:16
mercthe ! is so ubotu knows its a command.07:16
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  and look. bug #107:16
ezzieyguywufso when you did07:16
ezzieyguywuf!clone07:16
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate07:16
ezzieyguywufi was supposed to read that07:16
ezzieyguywufi see07:16
kahrytanbug #107:16
kahrytanguess it doesnt respond to that here07:16
nickrud!bug #107:16
Aishikojack|ass: I thought so too so I thought it was a FF bug but it works fine in the deflaut theme07:17
nickrudhm, it has07:17
ezzieyguywufkayrytan:? bug #1?07:17
jack|assAishiko: either way, that's showstoppingly bad.07:17
kahrytanIn -offtopic, it will respond to bug #107:17
ezzieyguywufoh07:17
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kahrytanLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107:17
Sianis_hi all07:17
Aishikojack|ass: they might have fixed it by now but I've not checked in the last week or 207:17
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Sianis_i have adresses in a text file07:18
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Sianis_how can I send them email in easy way?07:18
jack|assAishiko: I updated yesterday. :-/07:18
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blueflowerhaii07:19
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dfwgsgdshi07:19
Aishikojack|ass: I'm going to try it again after the release is official at that point there is no excuse for it to not work under any theme07:19
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png&imgrefurl=http://www.formatds.org/index.php%3Fs%3Dgnome&h=530&w=700&sz=102&hl=en&start=3&sig2=hM5l_bKiWEZ91znWx-IVvA&um=1&tbnid=OnNXt08vqQ6I5M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=140&ei=tNQBR_zGBZSIeObv8bYC&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgutsy%2Bgibbon%2Bcontrol%2Bcenter%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%307:19
kahrytanDfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26sa%3DG07:19
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blueflowerhaii07:19
ezzieyguywufoh when that guy typed #ubuntu+1 he wanted me to go to the other room07:19
ezzieyguywufyou shoulda said that bro!07:19
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  my bad. http://www.formatds.org/index.php?s=gnome07:19
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png thats what i like07:20
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, Ubuntu control center.07:20
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HealthyElijahezzieyguywuf: You wont get much help there anyways07:20
HealthyElijahYou were not offtopic here07:20
scatybgrub07:20
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ezzieyguywufthanks healthy07:20
scatyb!grub07:20
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:20
HealthyElijahI mean u might get help there but there was not many active users, i checked07:20
ezzieyguywufkayrytan: what about the control center?07:20
blueflowerhaii07:20
HealthyElijaheither way is fine07:20
blueflowerhaii07:20
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png07:21
jack|assAishiko: hmm, looks like it might be related to color depth... I'm upping mine to 24 (dunno why it's 16) and trying again07:21
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nickrud!hi | blueflower07:21
Aishikokahrytan: that's just the compiz fusion control panel not the ubuntu one07:21
ubotublueflower: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:21
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ezzieyguywufkayrytan: thats compiz right?07:21
kahrytanAishiko, it's ubuntu one07:22
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kahrytanAishiko, it's in Feisty just hidden07:22
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ezzieyguywufkayrytan: when i installed compiz thats what i got07:22
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Aishikokahrytan: for me to get that menu I had to instal compiz07:22
indraveniHi,07:22
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scatyb!windows07:22
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents07:22
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Aishiko's manager07:22
rubyphytehas anyone used pendrive linux under windows?07:23
kahrytanAishiko,  no you dont07:23
kahrytanAishiko, compiz has it's own control center though07:23
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indraveniI have sony laptop and i want my function keys, and all other features like motioneye etc to work07:23
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ezzieyguywufhaha07:23
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indravenihow can i do that07:23
jack|assAishiko: that got it... 24-bit color.07:23
kahrytanAishiko, just install gnome-control-center07:23
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ezzieyguywufindraveni: system>>preferences>>keyboard shortcuts07:24
indravenii heard something about sonypi07:24
indravenibut i am not getting where to download it07:24
Aishikokahrytan: either way I've removed compiz, why they would install it automatically and not give the settings manager07:24
gotamaHi. I have installed edubuntu with ltsp support. When I try to play a sound in the thin client it uses the speaker of the server. (wavesurfer, kedit, audacity, gnoise-gnome) Is there any solution. xmms works fine but its response is to slow. Help please.07:24
kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  gnome-control-center is in feisty repo.  it's same one in gutsy07:24
kahrytanAishiko, jsut install  gnome-control-center for the control center for gnome07:24
Aishikojack|ass: great glad to hear that07:24
kahrytanAishiko, it's not part of compiz07:24
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ezzieyguywufkahrytan: i dunno what it is, i just know i got it and compiz :-D07:25
jack|assshould get fixed though. :)07:25
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Aishikokahrytan:  the menu you showed is the smae one I saw when I got the compiz settings manager before I removed compiz07:25
indraveniezzieyguywuf, thats manually setting,07:26
indraveniezzieyguywuf, there are smoemore procedures for this07:26
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ezzieyguywufindraveni: sorry thats all the help i can give07:26
nickrudthe printing configuration is one of the better changes in gutsy07:26
kahrytanAishiko, The is one for compiz and seperate one for Preferences. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ONES.07:26
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nickrudlol, shouting! (me votes with kahrytan)07:27
kahrytanAishiko, They do look alike but they are separate07:27
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therealnanotubenickrud: out of curiosity - what are some of the worse changes in gutsy?07:27
ezzieyguywufi'd like to know too07:28
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ezzieyguywufis it really worth backing up home and doing a fresh install07:28
nickrudtherealnanotube: for me, my suspend & hibernate went way.07:28
kahrytannickrud, wasnt shouting. out of context. thats sternly saying something07:28
dxdtnickrud: OUCH07:28
ezzieyguywufnickrud: are you on a laptop?07:28
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ezzieyguywufmine hardly work as is so thats not too bad for me07:28
therealnanotubenickrud: ah, hehe i see. my suspend key stopped working after breezy->dapper upgrade (though suspend itself works, just not the keyboard key on the laptop)...07:29
nickrudezzieyguywuf: yes07:29
riotkittienow now.07:29
Aishikoezzieyguywuf: why back it up? or did you not make it a seperate partation for it?07:29
ezzieyguywufalso, dumb question (why would  suspend and hibernate be on desktop!!!! haha)07:29
nickrudkahrytan: I know, only teasing ;)07:29
ezzieyguywufaishiko: had a hard time making logical partitions during install07:29
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ezzieyguywufi'm not sure if you make a logical install under a primary one or not07:29
nickrudezzieyguywuf: I set sleep up for my boss, he's a man of little patience07:30
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, if you already got the partitions setup. don't have to make new ones for new install. just format them07:30
ezzieyguywufnickrud: i see. so you got sleep working fine in feisty? (not on a t60p running fglrx by chance? :-D)07:30
nickrudfeisty was amazing for me, I missed edgy and dapper & breezy were nice07:30
ezzieyguywufkahrytan: i only have one primary partition for root and one for swap, other two are windows07:31
tsukasawhat does everyone use for an audio player?07:31
tsukasajust wondering07:31
nickrudezzieyguywuf: It worked fine (gateway pos, but feisty supported it beautifully)07:31
ezzieyguywufamarok for now....07:31
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: lucky07:31
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therealnanotubenickrud: exactly the same for me - missed edgy, went directly from dapper to a fresh feisty install. ;) all of them have worked well07:31
kahrytanezzieyguywuf, that's fine07:32
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, 2gb swap i assume?07:32
Aishikotsukasa: I use Kaffeine because it's the only thing I've found so far that doesn't try to make a listing of my files07:32
nickrudtherealnanotube: yeah, after years of finagling debian (which I thoroughly enjoyed, by the way) it was nice to use one that just worked07:32
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Aishikotsukasa: I distan that sort of software behavior07:33
ezzieyguywufkahrytan: yes07:33
riotkittieoh wow. this is amazing.  stability. woo. woo.07:33
ezzieyguywufbut i have 2 gig of mem so i feel its overkill07:33
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therealnanotubenickrud: for me, s/debian/freebsd/ :)07:33
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nickrudtherealnanotube: ah, a masochist ;)07:33
paoniaISIs there any way to bring a "bricked" CF Disk back to life?07:33
ezzieyguywufkahrytan: so i don't need to back up home? but when i format that partition won't i lose all my data?07:33
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salamkenalhello how to install the Xlib07:34
FrogzoopaoniaIS: manufacturers' websites usually have tools for this, which only run under doze07:34
salamkenalin ubuntu07:34
salamkenal7.0407:34
bullgard4man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to mode, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number  representing the bit pattern for the new permissions.07:34
nickrudtherealnanotube: ah, shouldn't have said that, I tried freebsd before I knew enough to use it properly. For me, it would have been masochism07:34
josiahwell there are some things I just cant do on Linux. I have a windows xp and windows vista full version disk. How do I make it so that I can load windows from within Linux. (I dont want to dual boot I just want to do some random things like update my palm treo)07:34
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Aishikoriotkittie: I agree I have gusty running and it's been more stable then widoze but then the .12 kernel is not stable07:35
paoniaISbummer, I don't have a windumb isntall on a machine that has a CF drive07:35
nickrudjosiah: install vmware-server, and install the windows os of your choice in it.07:35
therealnanotubenickrud: heh well, back in the day i used to run some servers - it was a rock solid os for a server. but when i tried using it for a desktop, it was just missing too much stuff (mind you, this was at least 5 years ago, i bet it's much better now...)07:35
josiahnickrud: thank you07:35
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nickrudtherealnanotube: that's about the time I tried it as well.07:36
FrogzoopaoniaIS: have you tried partitioning with fdisk, & mkfs.ext3 ?07:36
riotkittieAishiko:  i'm not talking about gutsy. i'm talking about my wireless :P       but gutsy gets a stamp of approval as well07:36
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FrogzoopaoniaIS: actually CF should be ext2 probly07:36
Aishikoriotkittie: ohh OK :P07:36
salamkenalhow to install Xlib/Xfreeb6 in ubuntu 7.04 please help07:36
nickrudriotkittie: you have wireless??!! Finally?07:36
bullgard4man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to _mode_, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number representing the bit pattern for the new permissions." Where is this 'symbolic representation of changes to make' defined more precisely?07:36
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf, did you change your theme yet?07:37
nickrudbullgard4: like chmod u+x file (add execute perms to the owner of the file)07:37
therealnanotubenickrud: cool. i remember my first freebsd version was 2.2.8 - i still have those cds somewhere. heh.07:38
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nickrudtherealnanotube: I don't remember the version, what I remember was installing and sitting dumbly at the terminal07:38
riotkittienickrud: i've always had wireless :P its still awful under,  but  under :cough:gutsy:cough: it is finally behaving.  i think. i used to lose connections like crazy, and have to reboot :\07:39
ezzieyguywufkahrytan: what theme?07:39
bullgard4nickrud: You have given to me an example. Thank you. Can you also tell me where I can find a full definition of that 'symbolic representation'?07:39
therealnanotubenickrud: haha, i guess at least ubuntu has minimized the sitting dumbly at terminal during install time - doesn't take that long. ;)07:39
riotkittieand i still cant get rt2x00 to work for me :|07:39
riotkittiebut whatever. :D07:39
nickrudbullgard4: man chmod, just above the AUTHOR section07:39
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kahrytanezzieyguywuf,  you still got the dull boring orange theme?07:40
nickrudtherealnanotube: no, I meant after the install. Didn't have a clue :)07:40
therealnanotubekahrytan: i still have the default feisty brown/orange theme. i like it! :)07:40
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ezzieyguywufoh, well i installed compiz and emerald, and had a cool theme, but couldn't figure out why my text wasn't showing in my titlebar, so i reverted to the clone of the orange theme with compiz effects. i do have a custom collage desktop thats off the heezy though (jpg)07:40
ezzieyguywuf:-d07:40
kahrytantherealnanotube, http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/kahrytan/screenshots/Screen_10-01-07.png07:41
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kahrytanthereal I don't07:41
MoNsTeRcan somebody tell me how to restart my gui so i can use a updated resolution in the xorg file07:41
bullgard4nickrud: I will read that carefully.07:41
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riotkittieMoNsTeR: ALT CTRL BKSPCE07:41
therealnanotubenickrud: a-ha, i see. hehe. well, i was a pretty decent at the console, so didn't have that problem. :) but compiling kde was sure a "sitting dumbly at the terminal" time...07:41
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ezzieyguywufso i installed KDE, but i'm still in my GNOME session but a bunch od Kapps are showwing up in my applications list07:41
riotkittieor you can sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart07:41
ezzieyguywufis this normal?07:41
riotkittieor sudo /ect/init.d/ gdm restart07:41
ezzieyguywufkahyrtan: what theme do you use?07:42
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nickrudtherealnanotube: yeah, I put on a mandrake then spend about half a year with linux from scratch. Made myself eat my own dogfood07:42
therealnanotubekahrytan: meh, tastes differ. :) i am not a big fan of the "apple wannabe" themes, myself. ;)07:42
ezzieyguywufoh, plus on top of what i said before (and i can't be sure) but i feel like these K-apps replaced all my gnome stuff too07:42
ezzieyguywufi did not want this :-(07:42
Hornet!equivalents07:43
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant07:43
therealnanotubenickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...07:43
riotkittiei like nice, minimal, subdued themes. i wish i could find a decent dark one, tho.07:43
Flannelezzieyguywuf: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/07:43
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riotkittieezzieyguywuf: no the gnome apps should be there. each DE's apps end up in the others' menus tho07:43
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nickrudheh. wrong close button07:43
kahrytantherealnanotube, I miss my mac. Considering getting it replaced from ebay07:44
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therealnanotubenickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...07:44
ezzieyguywufriotkittie: thanks flannel: thanks07:44
Flannelezzieyguywuf: that's a method/script to get rid of the apps from the other DE07:44
riotkittieit drives me Krazy. on the rare occasion i hate myself enough to install kde07:44
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ezzieyguywufhah krazzy07:44
ezzieyguywufi might leave it but i will def bookmark the page flannel07:44
nickrudtherealnanotube: I was working the night shift at a homeless shelter, lots of down time :)07:45
ezzieyguywufbrb i'm gonna login to KDE07:45
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nickrudof course, if there'd been personal computers when I was in college, I'd have probably spend a lot of time with them07:45
therealnanotubekahrytan: ah heh i see. macs are pretty cool, from what i've seen, though i've never used one for a prolonged length of time since the os8/9 days...07:46
therealnanotubenickrud: hehe07:46
riotkittieif there'd been personal computers. aye.  <hides>07:46
kahrytantherealnanotube, my last mac was my 6400/200. ide cable busted it was my first  net pc.07:46
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nickrudI wasn't into flicking switches to program devices07:47
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therealnanotubekahrytan: heh ic.07:47
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therealnanotubenickrud: hehe yea, and those punchcards weren't that much fun, either.07:48
nickrudtherealnanotube: I hated the 1 week turnaround, yes :)07:48
riotkittiethank you for making me feel young. i needed that :P07:48
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ezzieyguywufback!07:49
therealnanotuberiotkittie: hehe, sorry, if you need impetus to "feel young", you know you're gettin' old. :P07:49
ezzieyguywufso who here uses KDE?07:49
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therealnanotubeezzieyguywuf: i've got kde on my desktop that i don't really use much. :) i like kde in general, but gnome's panel i like so much better, that i just stick with gnome.07:49
ezzieyguywufand where is compiz? does KDE need to be set up to run in xgl too or w/e07:50
salamkenalhow install ntlm_auth for the new version???07:50
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nickrudah, a question! too bad I can't answer that one07:50
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Curs0ryou know, in the early days of man we all sat around saying things like "awk", "sed" and "grep" to each other07:50
ezzieyguywufyou know what, i just realized how much smoother my comp runs without compiz07:50
therealnanotubenickrud: hehe yea, a while since we saw one of these. :)07:50
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IRC_helpnqkoi znae li bulgarski ?07:51
therealnanotubeezzieyguywuf: yea, i have beryl on my comp, but it just kinda lags when there are more than a few windows open, so i just use metacity...07:51
UsrlQuestion: I'm using gtkpod to load a bunch of podcasts and songs to my nano. How the heck am I supposed to be able to tell how much space the files are going to take up once I save it to the iPod, though?07:51
ezzieyguywuftherealnanotube: yea i can see why you don't like kde panel. i don't really like the menu either (too windowish, i'm used to gnome menu now after only 6 days!)07:51
therealnanotubeIRC_help: i can understand a tiny bit. :)07:51
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ezzieyguywuftherealnanotuve: what is metacity?07:51
therealnanotubeezzieyguywuf: metacity is the default window manager - basically what you get when you don't have beryl or compiz :)07:52
ezzieyguywufoh thanks07:52
ezzieyguywufi love the compiz effects though07:52
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ezzieyguywufmain reason i wanted to switch to linux07:52
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ezzieyguywufi'm torn between using and not :-) haha07:52
nickrudezzieyguywuf: its the manager that you used when you gave up on your missing title bars :)07:52
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ezzieyguywufactually, that was a gnome-human clone i found in emerald so it still has all compiz effects :-)07:53
brokenI have an issue here, I am using ubuntu feisty on my laptop. I've configured the power options that when the lid is closed the laptop goes into sleep mode. Now when I open the lid the screen remains black and doesnt' react to input, like hitting a key or moving the mouse around. Any ideas why?07:53
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: when you do make the upgrade to gutsy, you'll find it much better. Even for fglrx07:53
riotkittiecompiz runs very nice for me, and is actually somewhat useful. i  was shocked.07:53
riotkittieubuntu's made me lazy <weeps>07:53
therealnanotubebroken: maybe hit the power button?07:53
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therealnanotubebroken: that's how i bring my laptop out of suspend - hit the power btn07:54
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: really? thats great news. gutsy is sounding like its worth even a clean install, but i dunno if i wanna do all that.....07:54
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broken.. ok I guess I'll give that a try. Be back in a second.07:54
nickrudriotkittie: try debian, you've got the basics down, now build your own machine07:54
ezzieyguywufbroken: i think you have to map a key to come out of sleep mode. can anone verify that?07:54
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: well, you're gonna be changing your partitions eventually anyway07:54
ezzieyguywufnickrud: if i can figure out how07:54
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: do i just make them all logical?07:55
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therealnanotubeezzieyguywuf: well, you would'n want your partitions to be all illogical, would you? :)07:55
ezzieyguywuftherealnano:haha07:55
IRC_helptherealnanotube, I don't understand very good english.07:55
riotkittienickrud: debian schmebian :P i'm sure that it's lovely and everything, and i will get around to it at some point07:55
riotkittiebut i was thinking of going back to slack07:55
nickrudezzieyguywuf: when you decide to, boot the live cd, use cfdisk and delete the last partition, make it an extended partition, then add logical ones to the extended07:55
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nickrudriotkittie: it's a good learning experience. But, ubuntu does a magnificent job of configuring it for me07:56
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: i tried that on my install of fiesty. i had two windows partitions, a swap partition, and an ext3 that i set to primary that i put at / for my root. then i wanted to use the leftover space for home and boot but it simply said unusable space07:57
broken_Yea I just had to reboot.07:57
broken_To get out of sleep mode.07:57
ezzieyguywufso instead i went back and made root that whole last partition instead of wasting that space07:57
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ezzieyguywuflemme try a visual07:58
nickrudezzieyguywuf: because you didn't make the 4th partition an extended one.07:58
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therealnanotubeIRC_help: kak po russki?07:58
ezzieyguywufnickrud: so i guess i'm confused. its either primary or extended? for some reason i thought it was either primary or logical07:58
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: 4 primary partitions allowed, or three primary, one extended, and a bunch of logical07:58
ezzieyguywufnickrud: ok i'm startin to get this07:59
nickrudezzieyguywuf: the extended partition is what allows you to create logical ones07:59
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broken_So I don't know why I can't get my laptop back from sleep mode. As soon as I close the lid I cannot use my laptop anymore unless I reboot.07:59
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riotkittielearning experiences and i dont mesh well these days. i try to concentrate, and have a toddler cannonballing into my lap.08:00
riotkittiebroken_: is that constant? my laptop will hang every now and then when i put it into sleep, albeit rarely. usually only when i absolutely need it not to, though08:00
bcwI'm writing an input system for tablet computers (for linux). I've done some experiments to verify I can basically do what I want, and now it's time to back up, and set up the proper infrastructure for developing software that can be installed, un-installed, not conflict, etc.08:00
bcwI'm not speaking of a .deb yet, but rather the make & folders & naming conventions to allow me to build this correctly in the first place, so that it can be a package later.08:00
bcwIs this the place to ask such questions?08:00
broken_riotkittie: all the time.08:00
riotkittieugh. i was wrong about my wireless being stable. =|08:01
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nickrudwhat's the bulgarian country code?08:01
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nickrudbcw: ask on ubuntu-motu , they can help with both08:01
ezzieyguywufwoah didn't know ps3 could run ubuntu (knew it could run yellodog or w/e)08:02
ezzieyguywufanyone done this?08:02
bcwthanks08:02
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nickrudhah. toddlers and extended concentration do not mix08:02
IRC_helptherealnanotube, I Can you tell me how to escape defult firewall from ubuntu08:02
salamkenalhow i update the ntlm_auth package???08:03
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nickrudsalamkenal: winbind has the ntlm_auth command in it. its 3.0.24 in feisty08:05
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: (still on partitions) when i get to this screen http://customisinglife.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/resize-small.png does that ext3 make it an extended partition b/c thats what i used for /08:06
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salamkenalif i install winbind, so i must install samba right?08:07
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: no, you would have defined the partitions earlier, that screen is about what kind of file system you're putting on the partition and how you're going to use it08:07
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ezzieyguywufi might be remembering something wrong, but after i checked manual and went to 'add partition' that was the only option i got08:08
nickrudsalamkenal: no real clue here, I do so little with samba or windows08:08
ezzieyguywufi NEVER got a screen that looked like this http://www.elart.it/kubuntu/GParted.png08:08
ezzieyguywufand i installed 3 times08:08
julznewbie here... to install drivers im told i need to follow the build instructions. is this as simple as using the terminal and typing what it says?08:08
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nickrudezzieyguywuf: that's the one you want. I never use the live cd to install, so I can't tell you how to get there08:09
ezzieyguywufjulz:depends on if its as easy as using the terminal and typing what is say s:-) usually it does work if its a good guide08:09
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nickrudjulz: possibly even easier: what driver are you trying to install?08:09
ezzieyguywufnickrud: so how do you install?08:09
nickrudezzieyguywuf: I use the alternate cd08:10
nickrudezzieyguywuf: it's a text based installer, no live cd on it08:10
ezzieyguywufnickrud: brb08:10
julzumm, a ralink one for a usb wireless adaptor08:10
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the9a3eediDoes ubuntu fit on a 2GB flash disk?08:11
nickrudjulz: I do know one thing: I've watched someone struggle mightily with that ralink driver, trying to get wpa.08:11
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ezzieyguywufmy first impressions of KDE are no bueno08:12
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ezzieyguywufnickrud: what is an alternate CD? is it a lot harder to install this way?08:12
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julznickrud: as in encryption? i read that on the net, but my home wireless is unsecured.08:12
nickrudezzieyguywuf: it's full of options, it has a learning curve all it's own.08:12
ezzieyguywufnickrud: its downloadable as an .iso?08:12
julzi just installed ubuntu from live cd. kernel will be the latest? 2.6?08:13
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nickrudjulz: then you might have better luck. But 98% of the time, the 'cut & paste' into a terminal works.08:13
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nickrudjulz: that is, for the actual compiling & such.08:13
ezzieyguywufjulz: should tell you when you boot (for me i have to choose either kernel 2.16 or 1508:13
ezzieyguywufor something like that08:13
nickrudezzieyguywuf: releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 , look for alternate x8608:14
julzthanks a lot:)08:14
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nickrud!wifi | julz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut08:14
ubotujulz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:14
therealnanotubejulz: "uname -a" will give you info on kernel and stuff08:15
the9a3eediHi. Will ubuntu fit on a usb flash disk?08:15
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g0dd3sshi everyone! is there some way I can change the color of text in gonome panel, ie. the time and the taskbar, they're black n i want black wallpaper but it's too hard to read08:15
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ezzieyguywufok08:15
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julzyeah i went through that site a min ago, ill give it a try. thanks all08:15
pervirc.qeasr.net08:15
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g0dd3ssthe9a3eedi, i guess taht depends on how big your flash disk is08:15
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nickrudg0dd3ss: not that I've ever found, except recompiling the panel code.08:16
the9a3eedig0dd3ss: woops.. forgot to mention 2GB08:16
g0dd3ssok that sucks but thanks nickrud08:17
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user_VNC remote desktop question. I have 3 ubuntu machines on my lan, I want to be able to control the full desktop gui from one the other two on the lan. Without it messing with the other desktops mouse etc...08:18
DraconPernIs it possible to install and run ubuntu from an USB flash drive?08:19
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nickrudthe9a3eedi: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , 1gb is big enough08:19
WoetWhoo, my first message on IRC via ubuntu!08:19
Guest10035I installed VMware and dedicated 4 gig for an OS partition, which drive letter did WMware assign to it08:19
user_Is this possible with VNC? Or do I need to be using ssh to do this ?08:19
ezzieyguywufyay woet08:19
WoetWhen wine installed an application for me, how do i start it?08:19
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nickrudWoet: wine /path/to/exe08:20
Woetin terminal i guess?08:20
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ezzieyguywufwoet: yep :-D08:20
nickrudWoet: yes, but you can create a launcher in the menu ; right click the menu bar, select edit08:20
Woetthanks08:20
Woetand how do i find the path.. just the usual windows path?08:21
riotkittieboo. hiss. i had to go and wax and wane poetic about how stable my connection was.08:21
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Woethow do i browse the windows part that wine created for me?08:21
nickrudWoet: it will be something like ~/.wind/drive_c/<wherever you installed, like Program\ Files/exe08:21
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Woetyeah i know, but i dont remember the name of the directory :o08:22
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julzi extracted the driver to the desktop, and the first think i put into the terminal is "$dos2unix *" but it sayd command not found08:22
nickrudWoet: um typo, and you'd browse the same:  /home/<you>/.wine/drive_c08:22
Woetoh ok08:22
nickrudriotkittie: you missed the guy asking about ralink usb dongles08:22
Woetthere is no folder called "wine" or ".wine"08:23
nickrudGuest10035: you question isn't very clear08:23
Woetin /home/me/08:23
nickrudWoet: did you run winecfg?08:23
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Woetno?08:23
Woetbut i installed a windows app with success08:23
Guest10035what are the drive letters does VMware assign, I can only find my cd rom08:23
nickrudWoet: and we've about reached my limit of wine knowledge08:23
riotkittienickrud: i'm sure he'll be back08:23
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nickrudlol08:23
epotash_can someone reccomend some software for taking a sample of an mp308:23
epotash_to extract some seconds of it08:23
epotash_i will then use it as a ringtone08:24
Woetim now i08:24
Woetim now in winecfg08:24
riotkittiei have lowered myself to booting back into xp :|08:24
Woetlet me see :)08:24
julzriokittie: i am back! and still needing help!:)08:24
riotkittieepotash_: audacity?08:24
epotash_cool08:24
epotash_i had forgotten about that08:24
epotash_thanks08:24
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riotkittiejulz: ok. what you want to do is remove the dongle from your computer. at this point, you will want to pick up a hammer.08:24
nickrudGuest10035: vmware's os's are not available from the host os, they exist in files under the vmware Virtual Machine definitions08:24
Woetis there software to mount a sshserver like a harddisk or folder?08:24
julzhaha i have been there for a while08:25
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Woeti asked before, but i stilll cant find them08:25
riotkittiejulz: which adapter do you have? which chipset, do you know?08:25
Woetand 2 things: winecfg freezes, and when i try to adjust time and date, it freezes too08:25
julzwhen i type what im told into the terminal, i just get told the command is not found08:25
Woetjust the window freezes08:25
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nickrudWoet: sshfs (haven't used it myself)08:25
Woetok, let me try that again then08:26
riotkittiewhat command's not found?08:26
julzi have d-link dwl-122 usb adaptor. trying to install the driver from here http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html08:26
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riotkittieg122? or just 122?08:26
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julz122, sorry08:27
julzg08:27
Woetand what is a good replacement for UJtraedit (to code PHP)08:27
julzsorry, it is G122. with a g08:27
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gromozekin400mhz is it ok to install ubuntu?08:27
nickrudWoet: I use eclipse with  PDT , and gphpedit for quicky stuff08:28
progress0rif I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?08:28
therealnanotubegromozekin: probably better off with xubuntu...08:28
riotkittie i have that as well, and i have gotten nowhere. i would suggest the serial monkey drivers over the ones available on ralink's site, as theyre built upon the ralink release, more recent and improved08:28
riotkittiehttp://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page08:28
therealnanotubegromozekin: but if you have lot's of ram, could get by with even regular gnome ubuntu.08:28
Woethow do i start sshfs?08:29
riotkittieif you can bear to wait a month, and are willing to upgrade.. gutsy supports the g122 out of the box. otoh, it doesnt seem to be completely stable.08:29
progress0ri wish more windows managers came out, im beginning to tire of gnome and kde and xfce408:29
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tonyyarussoprogress0r: erm, there are hundreds.08:29
nickrudgromozekin: no. Use xubuntu. I had to move up from a 466 with 1gb of memory to run ubuntu08:29
progress0ri guess it doesnt matter i spend most of my time in the shell08:30
nickrud!info ion08:30
ubotuPackage ion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:30
progress0rtonyyarusso: are there any new wm's out there considered slick?08:30
progress0rother than beryl08:30
tonyyarussoprogress0r: E17 is often talked about08:30
progress0rhmmm i will check that out - thanks08:30
neopsycheneeded more than 256 to run ubuntu?08:30
progress0rany takers on my usb question?08:30
progress0rif I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?08:31
user_Any VNC users? I'm trying to keep computer B usable while using B's gui desktop on computer A. Both ubuntu on lan and remote desktop works , and I can control either way. I just need the other user to be able to continue using and have another session on . How would I do a VNC new gnome session ? ? \08:31
neopsychecompared to xubuntu?08:31
nickrudprogress0r: http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm is considered very cool08:31
progress0rnickrud: cool ill look at that also08:31
neopsychei have experienced usb problems using ubuntu in vmware08:31
neopsychebut thats probably just a vmware issue08:31
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user_neopsyche: did you install vmware tools after building the vmachine?08:32
Woethow do i start sshfs?08:32
riotkittieboo. hiss. i need a pci free slot. :|08:32
nickrudprogress0r: the fastest way is to unmount it,  do    tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal,  then watch the terminal when you plug it in08:32
neopsycheoh.... lol.. no no such luck.. that was probably it!08:32
julzriotkittie: im tempted, but now im also tempted to go for xubuntu from what ive just read08:32
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GuHHHhy my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.08:32
therealnanotuberiotkittie: what for you need a pci slot?08:32
overclucker*sigh*08:32
progress0rnickrud: excellent idea thanks08:33
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nickrudhaving problems with usb in vmware also, but I do have the vmware tools.08:33
progress0rnickrud: and dwm does look good08:33
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riotkittietherealnanotube: so that i tape my wireless dongle to a large pile of dynamite, and get something that doesnt suck08:33
nickrudprogress0r: I draw the line at having to recompile my window manager to change an option :)08:33
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progress0rnickrud: dwm makes you do that?08:34
therealnanotuberiotkittie: ahhehe i see :)08:34
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punzadaanyone know if there is a way to set which processes are run on which core on a core2 or quadcore system?08:34
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nickrudprogress0r: yup. but for people who are in the terminal all the time, it's very nice.08:34
leo_rockwhello everyone08:34
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therealnanotuberiotkittie: if it's a desktop, maybe you could take out your wired NIC, and put a wireless one in its place?08:35
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Ahadielbbl08:35
progress0rnickrud: probably wicked fast i bet08:35
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riotkittieis a pci-e x1 a mini pci-e or no?08:35
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riotkittietherealnanotube: i think the only supported wireless ones all have the prism chipset, and ... well, ugh.08:36
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therealnanotuberiotkittie: heh08:36
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therealnanotuberiotkittie: well, either you want working wireless, or you don't ;)08:36
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GuHHHwhy my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.08:37
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leo_rockwanybody hear has experience using uswsusp (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)?08:37
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leo_rockwhere*08:37
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lunzi can't change my screen resolution higher than 800 x 600,can anyone help me?08:37
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progress0rdang, Enlightenment DR17 (or E17 for short) is being actively developed for the last three years.08:38
progress0r3 years?!?08:38
punzadabunch of slackers :)08:38
riotkittietherealnanotube: my last dongle had a prism chip, and really, i'd rather go through labor and delivery again than mess with another one. :P08:38
progress0rgeez08:38
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riotkittiei am lazy. i want something that just works.  :'(08:38
user_lunz: what version and have you downloaded updates? Or running live?08:38
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Innomenjust installed ubuntu 7.04 onto a partition with winxp home, now it simply says error loading operating system, after going through the install process, copy files import setting etc. any suggestions?08:39
ezzieyguywufcompiz rulez08:39
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therealnanotuberiotkittie: at least you'll have a working human at the end, right? :)08:39
lunzuse:how to check my version?08:39
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progress0rbrb trying dwm08:39
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therealnanotuberiotkittie: aren't there any pci wifi cards that have non-prism chips?08:39
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lunzu mean i have to update my graphic driver?08:39
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lunzuser:u mean i have to update my graphic driver?08:40
therealnanotuberiotkittie: i don't know myself - i just have the intel 2200bg in my laptop, and it works, so i never had to learn about wifi chipsets and all that cruft.08:40
lunzuser:how to check my version?08:40
user_Did you just install? Or using a live CD perhaps?08:40
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lunzUsing CD that they mailed..08:40
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Innomenlive CD, picked up at linux fest 0708:41
riotkittietherealnanotube: yes but my pci slots are packed with gfx, sound, and eSATA cards :|08:41
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ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/d291af265 please help  to run this shell script08:41
user_OK goto system,admin,software sources and look around there for a reference to dapper or fiesty in the sources08:41
Innomenfor i386 systems dell gx27008:42
lunzuser:Using CD that they mailed..08:42
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user_theres gotta be a better way but that is easy08:42
therealnanotubeheh well, then you may be better off just running some cat5 ;)08:42
riotkittiemaybe  i will just move the modem so that i can connect to that through usb, and make my husband go wireless.08:42
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Innomeni think i've responded to a qwuestion aimed at someone else, am i right?08:42
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leo_rockwlunz, lsb_release -d08:43
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riotkittiebut that would be ridiculously simple08:43
skinnypuppy1334Any VNC users here ? Got a few questions.08:43
leo_rockwlunz, type that in terminal08:43
lunzuser: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?08:43
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lunzuser: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?step by step much appreciated...08:43
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progress0rok, I unplugged and plugged in the device (usb) it says usb_device_eb1a_a310_noserial, how do i map that to the /dev/ device list?08:44
leo_rockwlunz, do you know how to open a terminal?08:44
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lunzleo_rock : yes08:44
user_Terminal is your friend08:44
leo_rockwlunz, type lsb_release -d in terminal08:44
lunzi am opening now08:44
leo_rockwlunz, will give you your ubuntu version08:44
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overcluckerprogress0r: what kind of device is this?08:45
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Innomenwhere do i go for help with this issue?08:45
lunzDescription:    Ubuntu 7.0408:45
progress0roverclucker: a tv tuner box :) probably the most frustrating da** thing ive ever bought and regret08:45
leo_rockwlunz, what video card do you have?08:45
lunznvidia mx40008:45
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leo_rockwlunz, is it a fresh install or are you using nvidia's drivers?08:45
julzthe xubuntu site tells me i can install xubuntu through the ubuntu package manager, but i cant find it in there... is the site old or am i missing something?08:46
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Innomenwill someone tell me if my text is reaching the outside world?08:46
progress0rjulz: try xubuntu-desktop08:46
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kennobakaInnomen: yes08:46
therealnanotubeInnomen: no, i think nothing is reaching :)08:46
leo_rockwjulz, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop08:46
riotkittiejulz; open a terminal and ... sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop08:46
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overcluckerprogress0r: no clue where a tv tuner wouls reside in /dev08:46
skinnypuppy1334mike71ghia@yahoo.com08:46
progress0rjulz: make sure you the right repos setup08:46
julzthanks trying now08:46
overcluckerwould*08:46
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riotkittieInnomen: yes08:46
Innomenkennobaka: would you have a theory as to why no one can help me?08:46
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progress0roverclucker: same here08:46
Innomenthank you both08:46
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lunGezGeForce MX 4000 AGP 8x08:47
skinnypuppy1334http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us08:47
progress0roverclucker: i can see it when i do an lsusb but mythtv is looked for /dev/video008:47
mailavjis there any way i can run modelsim in ubuntu.08:47
skinnypuppy1334Nvidia drivers for linux08:47
lunGezI am using nvidia driver08:47
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overcluckerprogress0r: is it in /dev/input/by_id/ ?08:47
lunGezleo:I am using nvidia driver08:47
progress0roverclucker: checking08:47
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riotkittieInnomen: ok, which OS are you being told there's an error loading?08:47
therealnanotubeInnomen: because your question is hard :)08:48
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Innomeni never get a chance to select an OS, i assume its trying to boot windows first08:48
progress0roverclucker: not listed there08:48
leo_rockwlunz, how did you install it?08:48
julzi got an error ans it asked if i am root. i am not logged in as root. how do i do this?08:48
lunzleo: i did not install it...auto install i think..08:48
leo_rockwjulz, sudo08:48
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julzoh i thought that was a typo, thanbks il ltry again08:49
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crazy_busI've got a geforce2mx.  And while it works with the default binary drivers in edgy in doesn't work with either the drivers installed by the script envy, or the restricted driver manager in feisty.  It just loads to a half loginscreen, half nvidia logo and freezes when installed by those methods.  How do I fix this?08:49
leo_rockwlunz, did you install any video driver after the fresh install?08:49
lunzyeah..08:49
roel-do-release-upgrade .. Checking for a new ubuntu release ; No new release found08:49
jsc#gentoo-amd6408:49
Innomentherealnanotube: excellent handle08:49
roel-should that work on feisty, to upgrade to 7.10?08:49
leo_rockwlunz, did you use envy or automatix?08:49
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lunzbefore this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti40008:49
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therealnanotubeInnomen: glad you like. :)08:50
lunzleo before this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti40008:50
lunzleo what is envy or automatix?08:50
Innomenthe world needs more physics buffs08:50
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leo_rockwlunz, nothing. forget about those, lol08:50
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riotkittieInnomen: i've never run into that myself, so i'm really at a loss. hm. stupid question but... your BIOS is set to boot from the HD?08:50
Innomenlive booting from the cd allows me to see both the xp install and the ubuntu install and both apear fine08:51
julzi got "E: couldnt find package xubuntu-desktop"08:51
leo_rockwlunz, so you say you installed video drivers, but you don't remember how you did, right?08:51
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julzit appears its just not there?08:51
nomaSsee u later bye08:51
lunzleo can't ubuntu just automatically install my driver?08:51
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Innomenriot: yes, but i'll go see if it lets me choose parition order *shrugs*08:51
leo_rockwjulz, did you do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?08:51
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leo_rockwlunz, no, it can't. they are not free08:51
Innomeni'm luckily on a second system so you wont have to go without my presence :)08:51
julzyep, it started doing stuff but then i got that error08:51
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lunzleo yes..i downloaded a software form ubuntu forum...and i did install it but i cant remember how i installed or using what program..08:52
leo_rockwjulz, mmhhh... weird.08:52
leo_rockwlunz, well... that doesn't help much...08:52
therealnanotubeInnomen: it needs more geeks of every sort, really. ;)08:52
Innomeni agree08:52
lunzleo,do i have to install new driver again?08:52
julzi tried it with the live cd in, but it didnt help...08:53
Innomenthis seems like a big problem08:53
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leo_rockwjulz, try "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop"08:53
Innomenit should have botted into one or the other08:53
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Innomendo people typically not duel boot?08:53
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riotkittieInnomen: i've been dual/triple/on-and-on booting for years08:53
lunzleo,can't ubuntu switch to any driver that will work best?08:54
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leo_rockwlunz, no, it comes with free drivers08:54
Innomenso there is hope of finding a solution08:54
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neopsychehas anyone experienced a corrupt ubuntu installation yet?08:54
Innomeni'm not doing something like trying to attach a blender to a microwave08:54
leo_rockwjulz, did you see xubuntu-desktop in the list?08:54
lunzleo,meaning that i have to remove the old driver and install a new one?08:54
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neopsycheI had ubuntu on a celeron.. and i had some boot issues with it.08:54
Innomenneopsyche: me of sorts08:55
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leo_rockwlunz, just install the new driver. you don't need to remove the old one08:55
user_Nvidia drivers not always easy08:55
overcluckerneopsyche: yup, but it was quickly found out08:55
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leo_rockwlunz, i have ati, so i'm at a loss w/ nvidia08:55
user_Just install new yes08:55
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julzi just did the search one, it just went to the next line without doing anything. and no i didnt see it in the list with synaptic08:55
neopsychehmm08:55
neopsycheI like stable stuff :-)08:55
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riotkittieInnomen: can you boot that up with the live CD? maybe a reinstall of GRUB will help :|08:55
neopsycheis 6.06 more stable08:55
roel-what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?08:55
Innomenits fine when installed byself08:55
leo_rockwjulz, you didn't see it in the apt-cache search list? how odd08:55
neopsychethan feisty?08:55
Innomenyes i can, i will try08:56
leo_rockwjulz, are you on feisty?08:56
lunzleo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?08:56
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user_I run both , both are great!08:56
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user_and Gutsy08:56
Innomenis it smart enough to install it to the drive?08:56
leo_rockwneopsyche, 6.06 is lts i believe08:56
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user_Sure, it's lots faster08:56
lunzleo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?08:56
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leo_rockwlunz, idk08:56
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riotkittieInnomen: we're going to make it.08:57
Innomenhehe08:57
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lunzleo,what is idk?08:57
leo_rockwlunz, idk = i dont know08:57
Innomeni thank you for your reassurance :)08:57
overcluckerneopsyche: what does stable mean?08:57
lunzok08:57
leo_rockwlunz, probably yeah. but i'm not sure08:57
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leo_rockwuser_, you're using gutsy?08:58
user_lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:58
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neopsycheIt seems a lot of software was created working with 6.06 that has slight issues with feisty08:58
lunzleo,ok now how to install my nvidia without using a command?08:58
user_yep gutsy on current machine08:58
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Innomenthe bios does not let me select spesific paritions to boot from08:58
julzleo, yes i am, i downloaded it today08:58
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Innomenattempting the reinstall of grub08:58
leo_rockwuser_, did you fresh install or upgraded?08:58
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user_tribe 6 install +2 or so partial upgrades in the last two weeks08:58
user_LOVE IT08:59
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leo_rockwuser_, is the installation different from feisty? (i'm using gutsy, but i upgraded from feisty)08:59
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Innomeni suppose its comforting as a windows user to have problems during an install, i'd feel dirty if i didnt08:59
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user_no different08:59
zero-9376is anyone here familiar with using geany for latex editing, im trying to find out if it is possible to compile a file from within geany08:59
lunzleo,ok now how to install my nvidia?08:59
riotkittiewhen you boot the live CD  and get to the desktop, go to the applications menu > accessories, open the terminal09:00
Innomenalright09:00
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leo_rockwjulz, did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list at all?09:00
ratz_fatz_68135hallooo ... was geht ???09:00
user_lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... you can replace the one on your HDD in that live session if you screw it up no need to reinstall09:00
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Innomenriotkittie: thank you for your help, regardless of outcome09:01
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leo_rockwlunz, i believe there are linux drivers in nvidia.com09:01
leo_rockwlunz, idk how good/bad they are, tho09:01
julznope, this is a fresh install09:01
lunzuser,gosh..i dont want to screw up my ubuntu..i just updated my softwares..09:01
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lunzand i love using konversation lol09:02
leo_rockwcan someone on feisty do "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop" from terminal for me?09:02
user_/etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to go to your hdd by probably looking in /media/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf09:02
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kennobakaleo_rockw: xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system09:03
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user_lunz it is as simple as booting to the live cd and replacing that file if you goof it09:03
leo_rockwkennobaka, thanks09:03
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leo_rockwjulz, idk what's wrong. that package should be there.09:03
riotkittieno need to thank me ;) i just wish i was sure this would work.  do you have a terminal up yet?09:03
leo_rockwjulz, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?09:03
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user_Once I realized I can rescue any config file like that I haven't been scared to mess with anything under the hood09:03
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julznope, i didnt. this comp its on doesnt have internet.09:03
CamCarloshi people09:04
leo_rockwjulz, ooo... lol09:04
leo_rockwjulz, you won't be able to install w/o internet09:04
user_lunz following that?09:04
Innomenthat freedom to tinker iw why i'm here in open source land09:04
lunzuser,i try09:04
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Innomeni'm tried of being told i cant09:04
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leo_rockwjulz, you need internet to install most of the stuff09:04
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lunzuser,how to go there?from a terminal?09:05
Innomenok terminal is up09:05
julzhmmm, that is not good09:05
riotkittielol. what irony ... to switch to linux b/c you're tired of being told you cant... only to be told you can't load an os09:05
CamCarlosCan anyone tell me why after installing Ubuntu for the first time Grub was not installed correctly? I chose the option where Ubuntu made all the decisions but when I boot my hard disk for my laptop is comes up with the word GRUB in the upmost left hand corner and nothing else happens!09:05
lunzuser,how to go there?from a terminal?09:05
Innomenwell it worked fine for my laptop09:05
Innomeni may be poushing my luck :)09:05
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g0dd3sshai everyone! can someone please tell me which folder to find gtkrc-2.0 in ? :)09:05
leo_rockwjulz, you can download a xubuntu cd using another comp. and do a xubuntu fresh install.09:05
user_Do you get the idea that one config file while you are booted into a live cd doing a rescue will be at /etc/X11 and the one you want to replace will be somewhere in /media folder and will point to your hard drive09:06
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ce abiezzzzzzzzzzz09:06
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, locate gtkrc-2.009:06
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riotkittieInnomen: type sudo grub        ... and then  type find /boot/grub/stage109:06
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Innomenoky09:06
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leo_rockwg0dd3ss, you may need to updatedb before doing that09:06
Innomenfind?09:06
riotkittiefind09:06
g0dd3ssi only have it in /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-thingeramik/examples/gtkrc-2.009:06
g0dd3ss/usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-geramik/examples/gtkrc-2.009:06
semehi guys... I must be doing something wrong... I can't find maven with apt-cache or apt-get09:07
Innomeni have a grub> prompt now09:07
CamCarlosI tried this command riotkittie and it sazs Error 1509:07
semedo I have to enable a repo for that?09:07
lunzuser,i am sorry i don't know what are you talking about...:(09:07
julzthats what i did today. i downloaded it with this comp this morning, installed a few hours ago09:07
g0dd3ssi want to find the one to edit so my gnome panel text color can change09:07
user_lunz are you in a live cd boot session or in a normal boot up like it is installed on your pc?09:07
julzoh wait09:07
Innomenlike use the search? with the guyi or the grub> thing?09:07
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julzi see what you mean. yeah i think i will have to09:07
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Innomentell me what you are trying to do09:07
lunznormal boot up09:07
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leo_rockwjulz, xubuntu, not ubuntu09:07
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riotkittietype it in the grub terminal09:07
user_Ok, when you boot a livecd it all runs in RAM09:08
lunzuser i am in normal boot up..no cd in my drive09:08
leo_rockw!nvidia09:08
Innomenoh oh09:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:08
Innomeni missed the word "type"09:08
leo_rockw!nvidia | lunz09:08
ubotulunz: please see above09:08
Innomeni thought you were telling me to "find"09:08
CamCarlosError 15: File not found is what I get when I do a find :(09:08
Innomensorry lol09:08
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, will that work if it is a .hidden file09:08
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leo_rockwg0dd3ss, not sure.09:08
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g0dd3ssleo_rockw, okey thanks09:09
riotkittieCamCarlos > hmm. do you have a /boot dir?09:09
user_We can rescue a crashed install from a live cd by copying the config files of the live cd over to the harddrive to replace the broken config file09:09
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eko__ooo09:09
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, why would the file be hidden anyway?09:09
Innomenit says (hd2,1)09:09
user_it coppies from ram to the harddrive09:09
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CamCarlosWell I am running the LiveCD but my hard disk is mounted on /media/disk09:09
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lunzuser, my system is not crashed and i just want to change my screen resolution..that's all..09:09
CamCarlosI have a /boot and a /media/disk/boot09:10
leo_rockw!nvidia | lunz09:10
ubotulunz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:10
user_I'm just telling you how to recover very easy and not have to reinstall09:10
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, hummm idk, because it has important settings and they don't want the (L)users to screw it up :D09:10
semeanyone know which repository has maven?09:10
riotkittieInnomen: type  root (hd2,1)09:10
user_should it not work out09:10
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, it does find hidden files09:10
CamCarlosI was told Ubuntu would be easy to install :o09:10
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julzleo, i think thats what i may have to get then. thanks a lot :)09:10
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leo_rockwg0dd3ss, i have one here: /root/.gtkrc-2.0-kde09:11
leo_rockwjulz, np09:11
Innomendone09:11
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Innomenno echo, just return to grub>09:11
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riotkittieInnomen: type setup (hd2)09:11
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, wah wah, it dosn't wanna find mine:(09:11
riotkittiethen type quit  ... and reboot. see if that changes anything09:11
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, did you do updatedb?09:11
SleepyHi, got a small question. I got 4GB Ram & a Intel Core2Duo T7250... which Ubuntu Version do I need? The 64bit isofile says "....desktop-amd64.iso", which confuses me a bit ;)09:11
lunzuser,01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)09:12
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CamCarlosI think this is the problem I have is that the find command returns no results....Maybe something went wrong with the installation...09:12
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g0dd3ssleo_rockw, sorry, I do it now 8-] 09:12
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Innomenoky09:12
Innomenrebooting09:12
lunzuser,does this mean i already installed the driver?09:12
leo_rockwSleepy, if you never used linux it is better to start w/ the 32bit version. less problems09:12
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user_Any experienced VNC users or other remote GUI gurus here? Trying to remote desktop another ubuntu on the lan with that user being able to still use the desktop. IE not just control it, but have a new gui session09:12
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, that updates the index data base09:12
portablejimHow do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers?09:12
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, ok thanks09:13
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, np09:13
Sleepyleo, yeah, but I need the 64bit version to address the 4GB Ram, right?09:13
AnAnthello, how can I add an alternative link for usplash-theme.so ?09:13
leo_rockwSleepy, i really don't know, sorry09:13
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Innomenwell some progress09:13
CamCarlosriotkittie, Any idea why Grub would not be installed correctly after a first time install?09:13
leo_rockwSleepy, i believe core2duo is 64, not sure tho09:13
riotkittieportablejim: i suppose you can just rm them but you may want to try blacklisting them first09:13
Innomennow when it boots i get a menu with ubuntu and xp listed among other things09:13
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ce_gokililjk09:14
heguruuser_: you can enable XDMCP and launch another Xsession remotely09:14
ce_gokilioyjtui09:14
riotkittieInnomen > and then what happens when you try to boot into one?09:14
heguruuser_: is your remote client windows or Linux?09:14
ce_gokiljhkyhalo09:14
Innomenhowever when i try anything ubuntu it says error 22: no such partition09:14
riotkittieCamCarlos >   no idea.09:14
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user_both ubuntu09:14
leo_rockwanybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)09:14
ce_gokilhola09:14
CamCarlosBoo Hoo09:14
GNineSleepy, you got enuff firepower to run whatever you like.. just that AMD is not Intel09:14
leo_rockwce_gokil, hello09:14
InnomenAND WHEN I TRY XP IT SAYS ERROR 1309:14
riotkittieInnomen: i am a big dummy. let's do the live cd thing again, back into a terminal09:14
Innomensorry caps09:14
Innomenoky09:14
Innomenand no you arent09:14
Innomenobvious progress09:14
user_I can control with remote desktop no prob, how do I enable XDMCP ?09:14
CamCarlosIts really strange as all other Linux flavours I install always ask about installing the boot loader09:15
overcluckerCamCarlos: just reinstall grub09:15
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leo__Hi, I want to download ubuntu Studio, but there seems to be a difficulty. How do I get Ubuntu studio09:15
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CamCarlosHow?09:15
Innomenobviously ytou see what is happening09:15
GNineand any 32bit OS will work with your type of hardware, Sleepy09:15
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SleepyGnie, I just selected 64bit at the downloadpage and the file reads ***-amd64.iso09:15
overcluckerCamCarlos: it asks, but you have to see the check box09:15
dhanjeethello any1 ever use LINBOX09:15
leo_rockwleo__, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop should do the trick09:15
ce_gokilhalo09:16
CamCarlosHmmm I don't recall any check box... Should I go through the process manually?09:16
overcluckerCamCarlos: have you heard of supergrub?09:16
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riotkittieCamCarlos > the alternate install will ask. i think it may be an option on the live CD but its not really in lain view09:16
CamCarlosnope09:16
riotkittieplain*09:16
ce_gokilyuhuuy09:16
dhanjeethello any1 ever use LINBOX09:16
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crazy6why does ark not work?09:16
SleepyGnine, a 32bit OS will only address 3,2GB Ram... that would suck ;)09:16
leo__Ok I will try, thanks Leo Rockw09:16
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leo_rockwleo__, np09:16
shiznithi09:16
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g0dd3sscan anyone tell me where 2 find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty09:16
user_heguru: they are both ubuntu boxes, where do you enable XDMCP ?09:16
riotkittiewhere does GRUB typically install with the Live CD? MBR?09:16
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Innomenwhats good about it? *grumble*09:16
Innomenjust kidding :)09:16
heguruuser_: ok on the server, enable XDMCP (edit /etc/gdm.conf)09:17
GNinewell.. then look somewhere else.. thats whats in the menu for your cookie monster09:17
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, lol i have one in /home/leo/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.009:17
heguruuser_: feisty?09:17
user_I'll check that conf, thanks09:17
Innomen*perk* cookie?09:17
user_one fiesty one dapper one gutsy09:17
overcluckerCamCarlos: supergrub is a live cd, or diskette that will help you do many different grub related tasks09:17
heguruuser_: which one is the server (where you want to connect)09:17
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, another one in /home/leo/pidgin-2.2.1/doc-pak/doc/gtkrc-2.009:17
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CamCarlosoh ok09:17
overclucker!supergrub09:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:18
user_Need to go in all three directions eventually09:18
CamCarlosJust reading the webpage09:18
GNinebesides.. 4gigs of RAM is way too much for ANY application or even SET of apps .. overkill, sleey09:18
overcluckerahh09:18
heguruhmm ok09:18
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GNineSleepy,09:18
darkchr0n0sa cat woke me up :@09:18
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heguruuser_: two things you have to change in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf09:18
user_So gdm.conf on the server09:18
leo_rockwanybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)09:19
user_Alright09:19
Innomenterminal up09:19
heguruuser_: change disallowTCP to false09:19
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heguruuser_: and under [xdmcp]  section set Enable=true09:19
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heguruuser_: then restart gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:19
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riotkittieInnomen: okay, type sudo grub ...  then type  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd2,3), then quit & reboot.09:20
user_Ok just sudo gedited it , I'll do that thanks09:20
heguruuser_: all this on the server09:20
Innomenoky09:20
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heguruuser_: on the client just run Xephyr or Xnest (you have to install then with apt-get if not installed)09:20
Innomensays no such partition09:20
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riotkittiewhat says no such partition? root or setup?09:21
Innomenroot09:21
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, thankx, i dont think the pidgin one is what i want09:21
Innomenwasnt the find 1,2 ?09:21
riotkittieok. type find /boot/grub/stage109:21
Innomeni dont understand what we're doing so pardoin the dumbness heheh09:21
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riotkittieyea 2,1.09:21
g0dd3ss8-}09:21
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Innomen(hd2,1)09:22
riotkittiethe later it gets, the dumber i grow. that explains a lot.  <longs for coffee>09:22
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, i run kde, so all the other ones i have are called gtkrc-2.0-kde09:22
Innomenyou not dumb09:22
Innomenme dumb09:22
Innomen*thumps head*09:22
Innomensee? *drool*09:22
riotkittieyep. (hd2,1) for setup and root then reboot. if that fails , we'll try the MBR route09:22
g0dd3ssleo_rockw, okk 8-] 09:22
GNineall hdd's show up at front desk , dinner is served!09:22
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Innomensame as bove in same order?09:22
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riotkittieheehee09:23
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riotkittieyep. same order.09:23
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Innomenroot (hd2,1)  ... then setup (hd2,1), then quit & reboot.09:23
Innomenjust confirmiung09:23
riotkittieyep09:23
Innomenoky09:23
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GNine:-P09:24
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leo_rockwanybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)09:24
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Innomensimple little thing09:24
Innomengah09:25
emaconlinehello.. anyone knows how i can integrate my thunderbird to the system calendar?09:25
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riotkittienot working?09:25
Innomensame errors, menu, no such parition. or error 1309:25
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emaconlinepreviously i am using evolution and evolution is attached to the system calendar and can see my tasks to do on the system calendar..09:25
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emaconlinethunderbird apparently cant do that09:26
emaconlineany help?09:26
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=== GNine havent got that far with thunderbird. i dont have that many friends
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MartinWI have a bit of trouble with easyUbuntu, when I check the boxes and click ok it gives me a long list of packages which go ofscreen and I can't click the button to give it persmission.09:26
GNinei do like the look of thunderbird better tho09:26
GNineevolution is an all around excellent app but .. too serious in design09:27
GNineheh09:27
leo_rockw!easyubuntu09:27
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu09:27
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leo_rockw!easyubuntu | MartinW09:28
ubotuMartinW: please see above09:28
GNineblah09:28
heguruemaconline: sorry thunderbird doesn't integrate with the system calendar, maybe there is an addon somewhere09:28
SpiderPighow do i check if i have gtk+1.2 installed?09:28
MartinWSorry!09:28
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portablejimHow do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers that come with Feisty?09:28
GNine!synaptic | portablejim09:29
ubotuportablejim: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:29
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riotkittieanyone here good with GRUB issues? :P09:29
Innomen:)09:29
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kahrytan!fonts09:29
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer09:29
Innomenwhats does it mean when it says error no such paritition?09:29
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SpiderPighow do i check if i have gtk+ installed?09:30
Innomenwhen i can clearly see both paritions in question when booted from the live cd?09:30
leo_rockwriotkittie, i've been kinda following. would it be a good idea to use lilo and ditch grub?09:30
shiznity is a wma stream not working? i have the mplayer firefox plugin09:30
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skinnypuppy1334First time I've seen easyubuntu09:30
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Innomenxp home ubuntu 7.04 duel boot09:30
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DaverocksInnomen: is grub what's saying "no such partition"?09:30
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GNine!synaptic09:30
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:30
Innomeni assume grub is the boot loading application, if so then yes09:30
riotkittieleo__: no clue. i havent touched LILO since 200409:30
skinnypuppy1334grub is boot loader09:31
leo_rockwriotkittie, me neither, but it is a mbr solution.09:31
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Innomenday 3 of ubuntu for me pardon the ignorance09:31
DaverocksInnomen: was it always like this, or did it once work?09:31
shiznitwhat was the command to find where an application is located09:31
SpiderPighow do i check what apps are installed in ubuntu?09:31
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bobslaedehey everybody. Is there a program in existence, that would enable me to search thru my pictures, finding the right picture, from a thumbnail? It would search for the likeness of the the pictures, not filenaes.09:31
leo_rockw!synaptic | SpiderPig09:31
ubotuSpiderPig: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:31
bobslaedefilenames*09:31
Innomennew install, previously would not boot at all said error loading os, then riotkittie came in and fixed it to the point of now at least attempting to boot09:32
GNinehaving a live cd or your ubuntu install cd could help you lots09:32
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SpiderPigleo rockw ok ill give that a try09:32
Daverocksshiznit: "whereis" checks for common locations09:32
leo_rockwbobslaede, if you can find such aplication let me know, lol09:32
Innomenat which point i get no such partition, or unrecognized format09:32
shiznitthats right09:32
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bobslaedeleo_rockw: i will... heh09:32
shiznitty daverocks09:32
leo_rockwbobslaede, i don't think smth like that exists09:32
leo_rockwbobslaede, in any system09:33
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bobslaedeleo_rockw: i've seen something like it on the web once, but it was a "search engine"09:33
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GNinebobslaede, i have a brain program for that09:33
DaverocksInnomen: that may be a worse problem, heh09:33
shiznitDaverocks, it found 2 locations, how do i know which one is the excecutable that i need to add to autostart09:33
bobslaedeGNine: v-grep?09:33
bobslaede:p09:33
Innomenthe drives are there, it seems it just dosent know which ones to boot too09:33
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bobslaedevisual grep :)09:33
Innomenand its too stupid to give me the choice09:33
Daverocksshiznit: do "type myprogram" and that'll show which executable is being executed when you type it in bash09:33
kahrytanshiznit, /usr/bin/ is where binaries are stored09:34
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Daverockskahrytan: not necessarily09:34
shiznitwhat about usr/share it found that as well09:34
kahrytanshiznit, bin ... get it. binary09:34
leo_rockwDaverocks, kewl, didn't know that!09:34
kahrytanDave123, true but most often.09:34
Daverocksshiznit: that's probably not a binary09:34
leo_rockwDaverocks, the type myprogram thing09:34
Daverocksleo_rockw: oh, no problem :P09:34
Daverocksleo_rockw: "which" does the same thing as well09:34
shiznitso which location do i add to the autostart lost09:34
Innomenhmmm09:35
leo_rockwDaverocks, ty09:35
shiznitlist*09:35
GNinehowever, i follow the file organitzational logic of  f-spot and i can find anything i want09:35
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Innomenit let me edit, and i changed it to 1 and then 2 instead of 2,1, and both times it said cannot mount partition09:35
Daverocksshiznit: the one that "type" gives you is probably the best09:35
shiznittype?09:35
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bobslaedeGNine: fspot is ok, but its a wierd little problem i have09:36
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bobslaedetrying to replace every image of a docx file, with the correct image of better resolution, heh09:36
Daverocksshiznit: "type theprogram"09:36
_polto_hello all09:36
leo_rockwhello _polto_09:36
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GreyWolfeHi, I am having a problem connecting a USB drive to my computer. I can run fdisk in the terminal and have the disk recognized, but GParted won't recognize it and I can't navigate to it from nautilus09:37
GNinewell.  you said you got thumbnails working.  the files are all sorted by date.. follow the date to the file you're looking for09:37
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shiznitim lost09:37
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Daverocksshiznit: you typed "whereis theprogram", right?09:37
bobslaedeGNine: its 1161 thumbnails09:37
Daverocksshiznit: instead of the command being "whereis", the command is "type"09:37
bobslaedeand my deadline is in 7 hours...09:37
peter_can anyone help me with a webcam problem :?:)09:37
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citutehello all09:37
leo_rockw!ask | peter_09:38
ubotupeter_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:38
DaverocksGreyWolfe: so the disk _does_ appear in /dev09:38
shiznitok i get it, its in the /urs/bin09:38
peter_thanks:)09:38
GNineoh.. well.. i have all my pictures sorted properly ..  excellent organizational skills do come handy09:38
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GreyWolfeDaverocks: Yea09:38
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shiznitstrange, i had to add fusion-icon from /usr/share...09:38
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bobslaedeGNine: mines sorted to, by product number so to speak, but all the pictures in the docx file, is called image1.jpeg, image2.jpeg and so forth..09:38
peter_ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?09:38
riotkittiewe could try sudo grub ...  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd0) to see if putting it in the MBR would help. but im not sure it would :\09:39
_polto_can somebody help me with launchpad  ? i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?09:39
shiznitim gonna try if this works09:39
bobslaedehehe, GNine and the thumbnails in docx, are all from 1980-01-0109:39
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GNinecant help you there.. there is no query that could help you if you dont know what you're looking for09:39
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Ahh, after trying to force the mount from the terminal, it says the drive is the wrong filesystem, any idea how I can fix that?09:39
bobslaedeGNine: thanks anyways09:40
bobslaede:)09:40
darkchr0n0sanyone knows a "on demand" streaming server ?09:40
bobslaedei'll just get abck to work :)09:40
peter_ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?09:40
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leo_rockwpeter_, what's the question?09:40
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darkchr0n0si want to install an on demand linux streaming server, on a pc with can stream videos09:40
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Innomenhow does ubuntu respond to being moved after its installed?09:40
darkchr0n0swhich*09:40
shiznitok that works, ty09:40
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Innomenwhat do i do now?09:41
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Innomenheheh09:41
shiznitfinally i have a dock :)09:41
peter_well my question is how do i make it work for kopete as well as ekiga09:41
MoNsTeRshiznit, can you help me get the rocketdock09:41
g0dd3sshi everyone! can someoone please tell me where to find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty??09:41
Innomencan i live boot and tell ubuntu "boot from this partition right now" ?09:41
shiznitmonster, i dont know anything about that, im using avant09:41
GreyWolfeg0dd3ss: Did you try searching for it?09:42
riotkittienope. cant boot that way :|09:42
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with getting my printer working its like on my network and i wanna print from my computer to my dads computer down the hall09:42
g0dd3ssyesss I did GreyWolfe09:42
MoNsTeRshiznit, whats avant09:42
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riotkittieg0dd3ss:  ~ ?09:42
shiznitmonster, a dock09:42
Innomenoky09:42
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MoNsTeRshiznit, can you tell me where to get it09:42
g0dd3ssit's not there riotkittie :-S09:42
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leo_rockwMoNsTeR, if his comp has win you need samba i believe09:42
shiznitill give you the repo09:42
citutehi albertop09:42
GNineha!  its a hidden file i guess09:42
DaverocksGreyWolfe: are you specifying just /dev/sdz or also the partition (like /dev/sdz1)?09:42
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riotkittieg0dd3ss > and you're either ls -a'ing. or have unhidden it?09:42
MoNsTeRleo_rockw, yeah it has widows hehe09:43
GreyWolfeDaverocks: The drive has no partitions listen under fdisk09:43
g0dd3ssyes i unhid everything riotkittie09:43
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, then you need samba to share the printer.09:43
_polto_anybody familiar with launchpad's PPA ?  i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?09:43
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citutecan somebody elp me to do my home work?09:43
Innomenlol09:44
peter_lol09:44
Innomenawesome09:44
shiznitmonster, eb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all09:44
shiznitdeb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all09:44
DaverocksGreyWolfe: and not in /dev either?09:44
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leo_rockwcitute, is it free homework? or propietary?09:44
GreyWolfeg0dd3ss: Go to your home folder, unhide everything, I found mine there no problem09:44
_polto_citute, sure09:44
_polto_:)09:44
peter_lol09:44
Innomenwhat version is your homework?09:44
DaverocksGreyWolfe: like you see /dev/sdz in /dev, but any sdz1, sdz2 etc?09:44
shiznitmonster, never mind09:44
shiznitthat wont work09:44
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g0dd3ssi did GreyWolfe :( it doesn't seem to be there :-S09:44
Innomenhmwrk.dll09:44
skinnypuppy1334heguru: What do I need to do to Xephyr into that server i changed the config file on earlier?09:44
shiznitsomeone gave me the repos but i had to add a key and stuff, have no clue how to do that09:44
Innomen*snicker*09:44
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Not in there either, only sdc, no sdc109:44
SpiderPighow do i copy a file from one place to another?09:45
leo_rockwanybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)09:45
peter_homework.deb lol09:45
leo_rockwpeter_, that's not a correct package. it lacks version and architecture09:45
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peter_:( my bad09:45
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leo_rockwpeter_, lol09:45
riotkittieg0dd3ss: open a term and ... sudo updatedb && locate .gtkrc-2.009:45
heguruskinnypuppy1334: Xephy -query yourserverip :309:45
GNinehave you consider the possibility that you might not have it at all , g0dd3ss09:45
heguru*Xephyr09:45
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skinnypuppy1334thanks again09:45
MoNsTeRshiznit, im on feisty ill try to get it09:45
g0dd3ssriotkittie, ok i just did that updatedb thing liek 5 mins ago09:45
shiznitoh ok09:46
GreyWolfeg0dd3ss: was there any file with a name starting with gtkrc? Mine had a different name.09:46
cituteheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry guys Im just kidding,09:46
leo_rockwg0dd3ss, did you sudo the updatedb?09:46
peter_i'm still having a problem with my webcam :(09:46
g0dd3ssGNine,  why would that be? sorry im a noob09:46
GNinebingo09:46
g0dd3ssyes leo_rockw09:46
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leo_rockwg0dd3ss, if you can't find it w/ locate... then you probly not have it09:46
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MoNsTeRleo_rockw, where can i get samba09:46
GNinewhy do you need to find that file , g0dd3ss09:46
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riotkittieoh dear. my kid's going to be up in two hours.  i should go to bed :o09:46
amrowhat does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?09:46
DaverocksGreyWolfe: and dmesg doesn't show anything about partitions being found...?09:46
g0dd3ssGNine,  i wanna change the color of the text in my gnome panel 8-] 09:47
riotkittieMoNsTeR : it's in the repos09:47
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, my first guess would be synaptic09:47
Innomennight riotkittie09:47
riotkittiesudo aptitude install samba09:47
Innomenthank you :)09:47
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MoNsTeRriotkittie, leo_rockw , thanks09:47
riotkittienite Innomen. hope someone comes along who can help you solve it. GRUB can be evil. :P09:47
riotkittienite everyone09:47
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, setting samba up is a different story lol09:47
zoiksIf i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?09:47
GreyWolfeDaverocks: [387826.973819]  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)09:47
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peter_can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?09:48
DaverocksGreyWolfe: well it's highly unlikely you'd have a UDF partition on a flash drive :P09:48
amrowhat does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?09:48
MoNsTeRleo_rockw, is it hard if it is im gonna need help im prety new to linux09:48
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ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/m4edc25b3 please help me i got this error when i am tring to install prozilla a download manager09:48
GreyWolfeDaverocks: What am I looking for in there, can I pastebin the outout?09:48
GNinetry applications > settings > settings manager   g0dd3ss   you might not need a manual edit09:48
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, there are many guides on the web. just google samba printer or smth like that09:49
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MoNsTeRok09:49
skinnypuppy1334heguru: right after doing the debian login in the new window it crashes and coredumps ... fiesty client gutsy server09:49
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, i don't have a printer and I don't have win... lol09:49
darkchr0n0sksivaji, use wget.. it works09:49
peter_ can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?09:49
DaverocksGreyWolfe: you're looking for a line like "new partition" something09:49
leo_rockw!repeat | peter_09:49
ubotupeter_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:49
shiznitcan anyone help me get this audio stream working?09:49
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darkchr0n0speter_ ur cam works.. mine doesn't at all :\09:49
ksivajidarkchr0n0s but i doesnt provides resume support09:49
ksivajidarkchr0n0s but it* doesnt provides resume support09:49
darkchr0n0sksivaji use wget -c <link>09:50
peter_oh i 'm not familiar with here ....i just thought it went by unoticed ...my baaaayd :(09:50
ksivajidarkchr0n0s ok09:50
MoNsTeRleo_rockw, lol but my dad doesnt wanna switch other wise i wouldnt either09:50
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heguruskinnypuppy1334: can you try the other way around? it might be a gutsy issue as it uses lots of cutting edge stuff09:50
Daverocks!info prozilla09:50
ubotuPackage prozilla does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:50
darkchr0n0speter_ nothing you type gets un-noticed09:50
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peter_it doesnt really work though09:50
darkchr0n0swhat is prozilla ?09:50
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Not seeing anything like that09:51
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Daverocksdarkchr0n0s: a download manager, like kget, or FDM on windows09:51
skinnypuppy1334heguru: Good Idea, what versions have you run it with?09:51
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GNine!kopete09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:51
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shiznitdownthemall is a all you need09:51
GNineha!09:51
g0dd3ssgnine where09:51
GNineme neither09:51
g0dd3sslol09:51
DaverocksGreyWolfe: and gparted doesn't show any partitions?09:51
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heguruskinnypuppy1334: gutsy,feisty client dapper,edgy,feisty server09:51
g0dd3ssgahh i hate being a dumbass noob09:51
DaverocksGreyWolfe: as in, does it actually show unallocated space?09:51
darkchr0n0storrents is all we need :-}09:51
peter_join the club09:51
leo_rockwMoNsTeR, install ciberlinux, he won't notice the difference lol http://tecnicoslinux.com.ar/web/node/125 (just look at the screenshots)09:51
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MoNsTeRwhatever nobody can help me with samba09:52
shiznitdoes bittyrant work in ubuntu09:52
GNine!samba09:52
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:52
skinnypuppy1334heguru: thats terrific to hear. Thank you for your help09:52
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Gparted doesnt even show the drive at all, it detects a drive that isnt even connected09:52
Daverocksshiznit: it's java, so it should09:52
hegurupeter_: in ekiga, what is your selected video manager v4l or v4l2?09:52
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spiderfirehi09:52
peter_v4l209:52
zoiksIf i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?09:52
MoNsTeRleo_rockw, my dad uses media center like theres no tomorrow09:52
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spiderfirewhats the unstable ubuntu called?09:53
skinnypuppy1334gutsy09:53
leo_rockwspiderfire, gutsy09:53
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Daverocksshiznit: there's a linux download link on the bittyrant website09:53
spiderfireanyone here running gutsy?09:53
leo_rockwspiderfire, i am09:53
leo_rockw!gutsy | spiderfire09:53
ubotuspiderfire: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+109:53
skinnypuppy1334It's not too unstable been using almost 3 weeks no prob09:53
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with avant dock09:53
spiderfireleo_rockw: how is it?09:53
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tatzoiks: you make raid autodetect-partitions, and create raids of them09:53
skinnypuppy1334It ROCKS09:53
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IrreducibilisIs there a scrap of good left in anyone?09:54
DaverocksGreyWolfe: ... and... this flash drive works perfectly on windows?09:54
zoikstat: so create the partitions first09:54
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spiderfirehow do i download gutsy?09:54
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leo_rockwspiderfire, i don't notice too much of a difference. but then again, i had everything working already.09:54
zoikstat: also do i use mdadm?09:54
GreyWolfeDaverocks: I have no idea, I don't have windows on my computer09:54
DaverocksIrreducibilis: if you're lucky ;)09:54
hegurupeter_: and what camera do you have? v4l2 in kopete is unstable09:54
tatzoiks: yes and yes, im sure you can find some decent how to's on the net09:54
dayain which section should I specify the frequency parameter in xorg.conf file,09:54
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punzadaanyone ever have the issue when transferring a folder that KFTPGrabber just skips a file for no peticular reason?09:55
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punzada;/09:55
leo_rockwspiderfire, you can either upgrade from feisty or download a live cd09:55
DaverocksGreyWolfe: is there meant to be data on this usb already, or is it new?09:55
SpiderPigwhat does this mean : To install pysoulseek from the source tree run the following:09:55
SpiderPigpython setup.py install --prefix=<dir>09:55
zoikstat thanks09:55
spiderfireleo_rockw: can i install from the livecd?09:55
peter_when i type lsusb   i get Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam09:55
SpiderPigwhat does the --prefix=dir part mean?09:55
leo_rockwspiderfire, from a gutsy live cd09:55
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MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with avant dock09:55
spiderfireleo_rockw: do you know the link to the gutsy?09:55
shiznithow do i see what version of java i have?09:55
leo_rockwspiderfire, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta09:56
taurusivyhow can i download through ftp using proxy with wget or lftp09:56
SpiderPigshiznit check synaptic09:56
GreyWolfeDaverocks: There was data on it, but I formatted it in Gparted09:56
taurusivyseems to me it's not working09:56
leo_rockwspiderfire, if i were you i would wait till release09:56
DaverocksSpiderPig: it's like the install prefix, you don't have to give the option, by default it's usually /usr or /usr/local (can't remember what it is by default in ubuntu)09:56
GreyWolfeDaverocks: It just randomly stopped working09:56
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leo_rockwspiderfire, october 18th09:56
christopher_in ubuntu i dont care much for gnome and i decided to install kde after I have it how do i uninstlall gnome?09:56
shiznitspiderpig, i dont have jre5 or 609:56
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DaverocksGreyWolfe: hm, if it works in fdisk, can you make a new partition with fdisk?09:56
hegurupeter_: i don't use kopete, but just check if there is an option to switch to v4l2 somewhere in the preferences?09:57
spiderfireleo_rockw: why should i wait?09:57
SpiderPigDave rocks so what should i type for this to install? sudo python setup.py09:57
SpiderPig?09:57
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DaverocksSpiderPig: make sure you're in the same folder as the setup.py file, then try "sudo python setup.py install"09:57
leo_rockwspiderfire, it is still buggy. if you decide to install it don't do it in a production comp09:57
skinnypuppy1334what is the terminal equivelent to c:\dir *.mp3 /s  ?09:57
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Don't know how to do that09:57
SpiderPigdaverocks ok uno momento09:57
spiderfireleo_rockw: ok09:57
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taurusivyi use: wget -r -nH --user=xx --password=xxxx --proxy ftp://59.64.183.185/dir/09:58
Daverocksskinnypuppy1334: "ls -l *.mp3" ?09:58
SpiderPigdaverocks ok now it did alot of stuff09:58
taurusivyand i config in .wgetrc : ftp_proxy=<ip>:<port>09:58
skinnypuppy1334Daverocks: thank you09:58
taurusivyis that not enough?09:58
christopher_also what is the best dock in kde?09:58
SpiderPigdaverocks is it installed now?09:58
leo_rockwanybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)09:58
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DaverocksSpiderPig: did it report success?09:59
leo_rockwchristopher_, i have ksmoothdock09:59
christopher_is what I have09:59
leo_rockwchristopher_, is the one that gave me less problems09:59
DaverocksGreyWolfe: "n" to add a new partition09:59
christopher_ty09:59
roel-what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?09:59
christopher_how do i install it in kubuntu10:00
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christopher_got it on my gentoo box10:00
christopher_sudo apt-get install ksmoothdock?10:00
SpiderPigdavrocks no it did not but it i did pyslsk and it started so i guess it works. thanks10:00
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leo_rockwchristopher_, exactly10:00
christopher_ty10:00
leo_rockwchristopher_, np10:00
TheSkormsudo apt-get install ya_mum10:00
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christopher_im liking the whole not leaving cli behind10:00
peter_i'm not seeing an option to switch to v4l2 , it doesnt even see the cam in kopete10:00
leo_rockwTheSkorm, i tried that... i had a dependency nightmare10:01
DaverocksSpiderPig: good, it works, now just be careful not to break it, lol10:01
TheSkormleo_rockw: did you add family tree into sources.list10:01
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leo_rockwchristopher_, i doubt linux will ever leave the cli behind. cli rocks10:01
leo_rockwTheSkorm, oh snap! should try that again then. lol10:01
christopher_there is one distro currently trying10:01
christopher_pclos10:02
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leo_rockwchristopher_, i'd actually switch to slackware if i didn't like my current installation. i like compiling (yeah, i'm crazy)10:02
christopher_is why i have gentoo10:03
christopher_i figured id give *buntu for a run10:03
leo_rockwchristopher_, i haven't tried gentoo yet.10:03
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christopher_gentoo is the next best thing to LFS10:03
christopher_its all about your choice10:03
leo_rockwchristopher_, that's what i did. i decided to try kubuntu and i liked it. i'm probly switching to debian soon. and then maybe gentoo.10:04
lunzhow to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?10:04
Daverocksleo_rockw: hang on, you LIKE compiling and HAVEN'T tried gentoo? does.. not.. make.. sense10:04
leo_rockwDaverocks, i was a slackware user10:04
TheSkormlinux mint, or you could just go straight to bsd (freebsd) where real men live10:04
Daverocksleo_rockw: fair enough, but still.. :P10:04
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christopher_gentoo has less packages with portage just the ones everyone wants10:04
leo_rockwDaverocks, gentoo wasn't around when i started using slackware10:04
shiznitdoes linux have upnp?10:04
christopher_debian has the most packages10:04
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christopher_my first distro was slack 510:04
hegurushiznit: client or server?10:04
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neopsychewhat is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked10:05
hegurushiznit: upnpd is the server10:05
leo_rockwslackware 7.1 was my first distro ever. and i compiled my kernel on the same day i did that installation10:05
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GreyWolfeDaverocks: can you give more explanation, I did that and it gives more options10:05
christopher_back when linux was still hard to install was kinda nice10:05
shiznitheguru, the one that forwards ports for you10:05
christopher_i miss it10:05
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shizniti think its called upnp10:05
spiderfireis gusty alsmost a full 6 months already?10:05
DaverocksGreyhound-: select primary partition10:05
DaverocksGreyWolfe: ^^10:05
spiderfirei thought its released every 6 months10:06
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Ok, then?10:06
hegurushiznit: upnpd is the upnp daemon, you have to install it on the router/nat/firewall10:06
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shiznitits enabled on my router10:06
neopsychewhat is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked10:06
leo_rockwspiderfire, feisty was released on april, gutsy on october10:06
leo_rockwspiderfire, 6 months release schedule10:06
lunzleo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?10:06
hegurushiznit: ok on the client side, upnp is application specific10:06
DaverocksGreyhound-: now you probably want partition number 110:06
spiderfireleo_rockw: didnt know time flied so fast10:06
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with avant dock10:06
christopher_i didnt know kubuntu existed otherwise i woulda dloaded it in iso instead10:06
hegurushiznit: azureus, limewire are two applications that have upnp built-in10:06
christopher_lol10:06
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Ok, did that.10:07
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shiznitheguru, and it will work automatically?10:07
leo_rockwlunz, it did it automagically for me.10:07
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me install AWN10:07
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hegurushiznit: just enable upnp on the router and on your clients and rest is all done for you automatically10:07
leo_rockwchristopher_, i didn't even bother trying ubuntu. i'm all about kde10:07
christopher_me210:08
neopsycheubuntu is not a gui10:08
shiznitheguru, ok ty10:08
SpiderPigany1 got soulseek installed?10:08
christopher_jus didnt know it existed i suppose i was too lazy to look harder10:08
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leo_rockwneopsyche, no, but gnome is10:08
christopher_:P10:08
neopsycheyes.. but then perhaps you were referring to kubuntu?10:08
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leo_rockwneopsyche, well i said "i didn't even bother trying ubuntu, i'm all about kde" hence... i installed kubuntu10:09
skinnypuppy1334Is Easyubuntu for fiesty or is it sort of phased out?10:09
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neopsycheic10:09
Daverocksleo_rockw: right, but the standard "ubuntu" dist is gnome on top of the ubuntu base, kubuntu runs on ubuntu as well10:09
peter_would net meeting be a good plugin to add in kopete for video?10:09
leo_rockwDaverocks, you say potato i say... lol10:09
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leo_rockwDaverocks, but i agree10:09
Daverockslol yeah10:09
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neopsycheThanks for the clarification Daverocks.. isnt it wonderful how the open source world actually seems to care about understanding the terminology.. even though it might sound trivial to the average user of "other operating systems" I think its great :-)10:10
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neopsycheother operating systems > namely windows10:10
leo_rockwomg so late! i had to do a translation! g2g lol10:10
cafuegoI'm sorry, but potato is debian, not ubuntu ;-)10:10
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Daverocksneopsyche: the average user of windows doesn't know what an operating system is :P10:11
leo_rockwcafuego, then what is ubuntu? sweet potato? lol10:11
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neopsycherotfl10:11
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cafuegoHmm... back when debian was potato there was no ubuntu, afaik.10:11
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leo_rockwDaverocks, the average user doesn't know that linux is NOT an OS10:12
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Daverocksi wasn't joking though, to most people, windows "is" the computer, and there is conception of other possible operating systems. they know about macs, but they conceive of macs as a different computer, since they do run on separate hardware10:12
spiderfireis tribe referring to a game?10:12
christopher_ok in kde how do i put the trash can on the desktop?10:12
Daverocksleo_rockw: correct10:12
spiderfiretribe310:12
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heguru!tribe | spiderfire10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:12
hypodynehi all10:12
leo_rockwspiderfire, you mean the codename of the beta release?10:13
spiderfireleo_rockw: k10:13
hypodyneanyone know anything about attack trees10:13
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leo_rockwDaverocks, i like when RMS goes "gnu slash linux!"10:13
cafuegoare they like drop bears?10:13
christopher_simple things slip past me when im insanely tired10:13
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MoNsTeRi like how nobody helps me10:14
Daverocksleo_rockw: well, look, in my opinion, if you want to refer to the whole operating system, you should call it "perl/X/apache/.../.../../GNU/Linux"10:14
leo_rockwDaverocks, haha, tru10:14
Daverocksleo_rockw: it's not just GNU who have their tools on top of linux10:14
leo_rockwDaverocks, never thought of that, but it is true10:15
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christopher_MoNsTeR you cant demand help10:15
cafuegoMoNsTeR: Most likely nobody has any idea what AWN is or what your problem with installing it is.10:15
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leo_rockw!patience | MoNsTeR10:15
ubotuMoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:15
DaverocksMoNsTeR: if you "like how nobody helps me", then why are you complaining? (if you like it? ;))10:15
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peter_have patience like me :)10:15
Jazonhihi10:16
christopher_or for a much simpler rout google is a powerful tool10:16
stefg!google10:16
StalkerOfRisa`[Google Search] : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=&btng=google+search&meta=10:16
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux10:16
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doktoreashello everybody10:16
Jazonanyone here have ubuntu on one of the new ati imac 24" ers ??10:16
MoNsTeRget off my back10:16
MoNsTeRall you10:16
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Jazondoktoreas: what are you doin here? :P10:16
doktoreasanyone uses ubuntu on a mac mini?10:16
Jazonlol10:16
doktoreasha Jazon :D10:16
Daverocks!anyone | doktoreas10:16
ubotudoktoreas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:16
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cafuegodoktoreas: I used to, a G4 ppc one.10:16
MoNsTeRi asked for help 2 times within 50 times of people saying something10:16
Jazondoktoreas: I can tell you all about an intel imac w/nvidia ;-)10:17
christopher_why would you own an imac :P you overpaid for the hadware to install linux onto kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? mean no offense j/w10:17
MoNsTeRand i get asked to wait longer thats great isn't it?\10:17
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doktoreasJazon: need to learn some ubuntu, and my mac mini will sacrifice :D10:17
cafuegoMoNsTeR: Just because they were talking didn't mean they could or wanted to help you. In the mean time I *still* don't know what AWN is or why you can't install it.10:17
Jazonchristopher_: one thing: 24" lcd screen10:17
christopher_ahh10:17
christopher_but dell offers 30 for the same price10:17
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leo_rockwMoNsTeR, i asked about s2ram and s2disk, can you help me? lol10:17
christopher_and u jus hoot it to ur current hardware10:17
cafuegobut it's a dell10:17
Jazonnot with the rest of the amazing package... anyway,10:18
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christopher_i love the mac10:18
Jazoncafuego: lol10:18
christopher_but too much lockin10:18
dgjones!patience | MoNsTeR10:18
ubotuMoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:18
Nallemanhi. im going to make a backup of my home directory and then reinstall ubuntu. Will i have to change permissions for all files and folder in order do be able to copy them back to my home directory or delete them from my temporary driver?10:18
christopher_its worse than ms but atleast they give you innovations10:18
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Ok, now the new partition shows up in /dev10:18
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MoNsTeRDGJones qut trppin10:18
leo_rockwi seriously have to go. glhf everyone10:18
DaverocksGreyWolfe: now you should be able to format it with whatever (e.g. gparted)10:19
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Julzcan the live cd automatically use a windows driver for a wireless card?10:19
cafuegoMoNsTeR: So you're not going to explain what AWN is?10:19
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MoNsTeRleo_rockw, i have no clue what that is and i need to change the color of average peoples text in xchat so i can see you all10:19
lunzleo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?10:19
DaverocksGreyWolfe: for usb drives, fat16 or fat32 is usual10:19
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Doesn't help, when I attempt to do anything to it from gparted, the program just closes10:19
stefgMoNsTeR: have a read ? https://launchpad.net/awn10:19
MoNsTeRAWN is avant window navigator10:19
GreyWolfeit says it still needs to write a filesystem10:19
MoNsTeRstefg, im doing that right now as a matter of fact10:20
DaverocksGreyWolfe: ouch... what about mkfs.vfat ?10:20
cafuegoMoNsTeR: And you can't install it because...?10:20
christopher_Jazon what is your knowledge of linux?10:20
livenicelyhello10:20
GreyWolfeDaverocks: I have no idea how to use that, if you havent guessed yet, I am still pretty new to using Linux :P10:20
Jazonchristopher_: fair...  why?10:20
MoNsTeRcafuego, i can im doing it right now10:20
livenicelycan i ask a question but questions10:20
christopher_i can reccoment an excellent distro for the mac10:20
christopher_gentoo10:20
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christopher_i have it on my mac mini10:20
peter_anyone else wanna help me with my webcam problem?10:21
heguru!ask | livenicely10:21
ubotulivenicely: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:21
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DaverocksGreyWolfe: yeah sure :P check out "man mkfs.vfat", you should be able to use it to format the partition to fat16 or fat32... meanwhile i kind of gtg :P10:21
Jazoni run feisty fawn on the imac 24" (nvidia) and everything works... (everything)10:21
hegurupeter_: you want to do video conf with which network?10:21
GreyWolfeDaverocks: Ok, thanks for your help10:21
stefgMoNsTeR: don't expect too much of AWN. it's pretty alpha, pretty broken and far from ready for daily usage, as it is hard to configure it (or was, when i last looked)10:21
hegurupeter_: msn? yahoo? others?10:21
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peter_msn using kopete10:22
warbler!boot10:22
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:22
Woethow do i accept people to have added me @ gaim ?10:22
christopher_but if Ubuntu be your favor http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_dual_boot_ubuntu_linux_mac_os_x.html10:22
n2diyI have an application where I want a computer to have let known users access it at certain times of the day. Writing a script to shutdown is hard, but how to get it to turn itself on?10:22
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penguincentralWoet: how is ubuntu going?10:22
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MoNsTeRstefg, ight10:22
kristjan_are qemu and virutalbox about same in speed?10:22
Julzhelp? the live cd allows wireless one one computer, but not on a different one. same wireless card. any idea how i can fix it?10:22
peter_my webcam isnt detected by kopete though but it is by ekiga10:22
christopher_virtualbox is better10:22
Woetawesome penguincentral10:22
christopher_i find qemu to bug out10:22
Woeti love it10:22
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kristjan_christopher_: what about performance?10:23
livenicelyi am using Ubuntu 7.04 Error No.110:23
livenicelyroot@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# sudo apt-get install -f10:23
livenicelyReading package lists... Done10:23
livenicelyBuilding dependency tree10:23
livenicelyReading state information... Done10:23
livenicelyE: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.10:23
livenicelyroot@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# I have not virtual box package now. Error No.210:23
christopher_about the same10:23
livenicelywhen i try to install atari800 .deb package The package might be courrpeted or you are not allowed to open the file . check the permission of the file.10:23
livenicelybut package and file is ok. Error No.310:23
livenicelywhen i open synaptic package manager it says E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.10:23
livenicelyE: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. Error No. 4 when i am trying to download any thing through firefox it asks where to save or download but download is not going to start and not open download window.10:23
peter_canorama doesnt see it either10:23
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penguincentralWoet: wonderful.  is everything working?10:23
Woetalmost10:23
punzadaI'm glad the filezilla developers fixed implicit ssl in the 3.0.1 version10:23
Woetsshfs is quite a bitch to me10:23
penguincentralheh10:23
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christopher_virtualbox ose is made from qemu but it is more stable and easier to use10:23
punzadaevery other ftp client blows goats ;/10:23
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Woetand when i try to edit date & time, i get an empty window10:23
Woetin stead of settings in it10:23
heguru!pastebin | livenicely10:23
ubotulivenicely: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:23
penguincentralWoet: heh.10:23
penguincentrali remember you a couple of days ago trying to decide to switch from xp to ubuntu10:24
Woetyeah10:24
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penguincentralalways good to help a switcher10:24
christopher_penguincentral what apps are you married to10:24
christopher_?10:24
Woetwell, im still using XP as a desktop10:24
penguincentralok10:24
Woetbut ubuntu is my work laptop10:24
penguincentralchristopher_: what do you mean10:24
christopher_virtualbox ose for all ur windows needs10:24
Woettoo much software doesnt quite work on ubuntu :p10:24
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lunz!dualboot10:25
penguincentralWoet: Woo!!!10:25
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty10:25
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christopher_ubuntu and kubuntu are faster than xp on every level10:25
penguincentralchristopher_: what are you talking about?10:25
n2diySorry, wrong question. I have an application where I want a computer to let known users access it at certain times of the day. The client doesn't want the box to run 24/7. Writing a script to shutdown isn't hard, but how to get it to turn itself on? It is old hardware, no wake on commands available.10:25
viRghiN_18_jktallow10:25
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christopher_you can still have all the apps you use in linux10:25
WoetHow do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?10:25
Julzanyone know much about wireless cards? im having trouble detecting mine10:25
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SETKEH-NRNShttp://setkeh.bravehost.com/linux.htm for info on the teamspeak server i run for linux10:25
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christopher_without much hassle10:25
penguincentralchristopher_: I use firefox, pidgin quite a lot10:25
christopher_are you a gamer?10:25
livenicelyhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1436810:26
penguincentralchristopher_: not really, although I own a PS210:26
christopher_no i mean on the pc10:26
penguincentralnot really10:26
peter_cod 4 check it out10:26
christopher_other than ff and gaim what do you use?10:26
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penguincentralchristopher_: I use Xchat-gnome, utorrent under wine, rhythmbox10:26
alok_Julz:Check out your restricted driver manger10:26
penguincentralopenoffice occasionally10:26
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penguincentralmencoder, totem, vlc10:27
penguincentralgizmo project10:27
penguincentralmiro10:27
penguincentralTvtime10:27
christopher_nice list10:27
heguruJulz: run lspci command and pastebin it10:27
Julzalok: it worked with the same typoe of card on another comp just from the live cd, so shouldnt it work this time too?10:27
penguincentralthanks christopher_10:27
christopher_i jus wanna know i am trying to make a distro that suits what most people use10:27
penguincentralnotice that it is virtually all open source10:28
christopher_right lol10:28
penguincentralgood luck christopher_10:28
stefgn2diy: the only option i see is using a power plug with a timer in it. so don't switch the box off with the 'halt' command, just let it idle after the power down routine, and wait for the power timer to cut the power. when the power comes back, it should reboot10:28
christopher_cept utorrent10:28
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penguincentralyeah10:28
christopher_ktorrent is just as light10:28
penguincentralbut i use wine10:28
SETKEH-NRNShttp://setkeh.bravehost.com/linux.htm for info on the teamspeak server i run for linux10:28
WoetHow do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?10:28
christopher_but utorrent is slightly better10:28
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penguincentralhonestly, all of the linux torrent programs that i have tried have screwed me to the point that i gave up on them10:28
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Julzheguru: its on a different comp so i cant paste but tell me what i should get and i can tell u10:29
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penguincentrali tried utorrent on wine and it worked perfectly without a hitch10:29
peter_try ktorrent10:29
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penguincentralpeter_: i think i tried it and it sucked10:29
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MoNsTeRanybody know why this happens , i press alt + f2 and i type avant-window-navigator and nothing pops up10:29
peter_really .....i'm liking it10:29
heguruJulz: just the type of network card, something like: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)10:29
penguincentrali tried azureus, qbittorrent, official bittorrent, and a few others... and they all sucked10:29
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n2diystefg: Thanks, now I'm wondering about the shutdown command? I'f I issue shutdown -r 360 would it prevent log ins, and then restart in 3 hours? I know, read man shutdown.10:30
penguincentral!hi | elkubuntu10:30
ubotuelkubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!10:30
SpiderPigis it possible to install soulseek with 'sudo apt-get install ?10:30
frostburnpenguincentral, use azureus with the latest sun jre and jar from sourceforge, it's 10x better than ubuntu's10:30
t3318_what is soulseek?10:30
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penguincentralSpiderPig: you can try though10:30
HirvinenSpiderPig: At least according to WikiPedia, Soulseek is Windows only.10:30
heguruSpiderPig: souldseek is not in the official repositories10:30
christopher_yea a nice clean desktop with firefox kopete gimp amarok xchat and synaptic on the desktop with a nice ksmoothdock on the bottom and only the system tray wich is hidden on the right is a snazzy desktop I would use as the default desktop with some georgous beryl effects10:30
stefgn2diy: never tried that, but it's quite uneconomic to let the box run without being accessible10:31
Julzheguru: surecom 54m wlan pci adapter EP-9321-g10:31
HirvinenSpiderPig: Might work with wine though.10:31
penguincentralfrostburn: i am actually very happy with utorrent, it is probably the best app to use in wine10:31
christopher_right10:31
n2diystefg: true...10:31
spiderfirehows ktorrent?10:31
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Nallemanhi. im going to make a backup of my home directory and then reinstall ubuntu. Will i have to change permissions for all files and folder in order do be able to copy them back to my home directory or delete them from my temporary driver?10:31
peter_iktorrent works fine for me10:31
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peter_iuser friendly and its fast ...for me :)10:32
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spiderfireNalleman: i just copied them to another drive..but you can preserve permissions with bzip i think10:32
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frostburnNalleman, when you copy it, use $cp --preserve10:33
n2diystefg: I like your approach now, I'll script it to shutdown, and when someone wants to turn it on, they'll have to do it.10:33
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heguruJulz: wait let me check10:33
MoNsTeRanybody know why this happens , i press alt + f2 and i type avant-window-navigator and nothing pops up10:33
Julzkk10:33
frostburnNalleman, check the man file though10:33
cloudertranmission and deluge are 2 great clients.  transmission is completely no frills light weight and deluge is a little closer to utorrent than anything else.  All in all though there is no native utorrent alt. ;/10:33
WoetHow do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?10:33
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cjae_ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link10:34
MoNsTeRWoet, a thing will pop up asking if you want to allow them to see yuour status and stuff10:34
peter_iyou mean add your ms account in gaim?10:34
Woeti dont get the pop up :o10:34
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penguincentralWoet: well, that's a problem10:34
howlingmadhowiehi everybody :) quick question. i'm trying to edit a standard ascii text in openoffice to make it look nicer and in the original, every line ends with a newline character. is there a simple way to get rid of these, so the paragraphs are formatted correctly?10:34
IrreducibilisI wonder what the Ubuntu Z series will be named.... maybe Ubuntu Zenithic Zebra?10:34
arinomi!gutsy10:35
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+110:35
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IrreducibilisWhat will happen when you finally reach Z?10:35
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cjae_Irreducibilis, think it will make it that far and if so what comes after the alphabet?10:36
heguruJulz: ok it seems like your card uses atheros chipset10:36
IrreducibilisPerhaps ze greek10:36
DaverocksGreyWolfe: i'm back, is everything going alright?10:36
IrreducibilisUbuntu Alpha-ness10:36
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Woetsshfs says "the attempt to login has failed", while i am 100% sure that the login details are ok10:36
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Woeti have the host, username and password10:36
Woethow would i mount it?10:36
Julzheguru: so what do i do? sorry im a total newbie here10:37
MoNsTeRdoes anybody know how i can compose my screen10:37
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neildarlowdoes anyone have any experience of the quality of .debs on getdeb.net? i was thinking of getting latest versions of kino and devede from there10:37
heguruJulz: well atheros is not a very good wireless card for linux, but people have it working10:37
MoNsTeRor will XGL and BERYL take care of that10:38
heguruJulz: i am just trying to find out if your card needs ndiswrapper or atheros native driver10:38
IrreducibilisI wonder...10:38
IrreducibilisIs there significant additions to the new slight version increses such as from 7.04 to 7.10?10:38
IrreducibilisOr would it be better to wait for something like 7.04 to 7.50?10:38
Daverocksheguru: actually atheros is very well supported on linux (madwifi etc)10:38
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Irreducibilis!significant10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about significant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:39
Julzheguru: thanks. it worked on live cd with the drivers installed for windows, so perhaps i can use that ndsrppr thing?10:39
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carlinuxbonjour10:39
neildarlowIrreducibilis: don't you mean 7.10, 8.04 or 8.10?10:39
carlinuxor hellp10:40
carlinuxhello10:40
stefgIrreducibilis: the version numbers indicate the release date. 7.04 -> April 2007, 7.10 -> October 2007 . so you can't tell how 'different' releases are by their version numbers10:40
cjae_ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link10:40
carlinuxcan someone help me for something please10:40
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heguruJulz: how do you know it used the drivers installed for windows?10:40
neildarlowcjae_: have you configured thunderbird as default in preferred applications?10:40
cjae_neildarlow, yes10:41
Woetsshfs says "the attempt to login has failed", while i am 100% sure that the login details are ok10:41
christopher_i just thought of something cool why cant the desktops have tabs at the top of the screen much like surfing the internet has now?10:41
stefg!ask | carlinux10:41
Woet:(10:41
ubotucarlinux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:41
Julzi assumed. the windows machine had the drivers installed. but this other linux one doesnt and it wont work, the only difference is the presence of the drivers...10:41
christopher_that would be very intuitive10:41
n2diyIrreducibilis: 7.50 never exsisted, and if it did it is history, that would have been released in May of 2007, but it would have been 7.05. The first number indicates the year of release, and the second the month.10:41
cjae_neildarlow, and uninstalled effieny10:41
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IrreducibilisAhhh....10:41
heguruJulz: did you go to restricted driver manager?10:41
cjae_or however you spell it10:41
heguruJulz: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager10:42
IrreducibilisI had no clue10:42
cjae_i mean evolution neildarlow10:42
christopher_have the menu only have a button and task list be hidden away and a button combo to show it10:42
it-linuxwhat's up carlinux?10:42
cjae_cause thats what was opening with ff before when I did that10:42
arinomi Is it possible to upgrade from Ubuntu Feisty to the testing version of Gutsy without having to reinstall and format?10:42
it-linuxHi Ubotu!!10:42
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n2diyIrreducibilis: good! Your teachable! :)10:42
carlinux!ask | I need help, cause i'm using feisty 7.04 64bits on a 2.6.20-16-lowlentcy kernel and I install nvidia's drivers by using envy and there's a problem with tty10:43
ubotuI need help, cause i'm using feisty 7.04 64bits on a 2.6.20-16-lowlentcy kernel and I install nvidia's drivers by using envy and there's a problem with tty: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:43
IrreducibilisIs there a way to like turn off the "UAC" in ubuntu?10:43
IrreducibilisWhere it keeps asking for the admin password to change things?10:43
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Julzheguru: it says i dont need any restricted drivers10:43
IrreducibilisIts comparable to vista's UAC, no offence10:43
stefg!envy | carlinux10:43
ubotucarlinux: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!10:43
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neildarlowcjae_: clicking a mailto: link in firefox starts thunderbird's compose window for me10:43
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cjae_neildarlow, how about send link under file10:44
n2diyIrreducibilis: No, it is there to protect the computer, from you. :)10:44
carlinuxok when i do ctrl+alt+f2 it tells me user not known to the undelying module10:44
stefgarinomi: in theory yes, in practice you'll encounter difficulties, because not all transitional packages are built yet10:44
Irreducibilisn2diy: XP will let me be more "dev-like" then... it lets me do whatever10:44
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Irreducibilisespecially when one is knowledgeable enough to know what he is doing...10:44
neildarlowcjae_: yes, that does it too10:44
carlinuxi cant log on tty10:45
n2diyIrreducibilis: Ok, I don't know, I've been Windows Free since 95.10:45
cjae_neildarlow, ok thanks10:45
WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"10:45
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Guest15726!nohup10:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nohup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:45
heguruJulz: just one little problem before I can tell you what card to use. The surecom card you have comes with two different chipsets under the same model name!10:46
carlinuxcould someone give me a hint pls10:46
lockemeh10:46
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lockewtf10:46
n2diyIrreducibilis: Err, correction, the last version Of Windows I've used was 95, it survived until 2001.10:46
heguruJulz: can you check by booting the liveCD what driver is being used?10:46
heguruJulz: if you can boot into LiveCD, do that and then paste the output of command lsmod to pastebin10:47
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ssnhi10:47
Julzheguru: sure. so i do it on a)the linux machine that wont recognise the card, or b) the windows machine with live cd that recognised it?10:47
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heguruJulz: on the machine that recognized the card (windows machine with livecd)10:48
Guest15726does it possible to run "nohup" command without creating the nohup.out file ?10:48
ssnhow do i change permissions of files on an external drive?10:48
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Julzheguru: ok doing it now10:48
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ssnbecause now, the belong to me:root10:48
lockemeh?10:48
lockewhat?10:48
ssni can delete them, but i am unable to change the ownership to me:me or give the group read permissions10:49
WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"10:49
stefgGuest15726: read about i/o redirection http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html10:49
n2diyGuest15726: nohup > null?10:49
lockehmm this is way later10:49
ssncan someone plz help me?10:49
pablozhello all10:50
howlingmadhowiessn: what format have you got on the external drive?10:50
carlinux!ask | when i run ps -A | grep tty , only tty7 is running, how do i can i get tty1-6 running ?10:50
ubotuwhen i run ps -A | grep tty , only tty7 is running, how do i can i get tty1-6 running ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:50
ssnfat3210:50
damianli have drives that arent mounted in /media how do i add them to "computer"10:50
howlingmadhowiessn: fat32 doesn't support permissions and ownership10:50
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lockelame10:50
lockegeeky quesition10:50
ssnhowlingmadhowie: so why cant mpd access the mp3 files on the drive?10:50
lockei wouldnt even ask tat of anyting bu computer10:50
bpssoftDoes Ubuntu work on ASUS R2H Tablet?10:51
pablozIs somebody from poland ?10:51
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darkchr0n0sdamianl : use Applications --> System Tools --> NTFS configuration tools10:51
Guest15726n2diy: i want to use the nohup command without making output file does it possible ?10:51
lockeGAH10:51
howlingmadhowiessn: this means the files are owned by whoever mounted it (probably root). however, as the default user, you should be able to do whatever you want with them.10:51
WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"10:51
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lockei lost connection to freenode10:51
lockeer10:51
lockeundernet i mea10:51
n2diyGuest15726: nohup > null?  Null is a nonexsistent file.10:52
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Bielekehi guys10:52
bpssofthi10:52
damianldarkchr0n0s um what package i dont have it and btw isnt that something to do with ntfs filesystem?10:52
Bielekemy ubuntu gutsy server beta does not recognizes my network card10:52
ssnhowlingmadhowie: thats right, but mpd cares about who owns the files10:52
Bielekelspci lists it as ADMTek NC 10010:52
it-linuxcarlinux | could you tell me exactly what are you going to do?10:52
stefg!gutsy | Bieleke10:52
ubotuBieleke: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+110:52
ssnwhen i try to update the mpd database, the files arent imported because of the permissions10:52
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howlingmadhowiessn: well that's rather silly of mpd. it's a pretty standard use case.10:53
stefgBieleke: prolly it just went from eth0 to eth110:53
Bielekei contifured interfaces, but networking restart can't find the device10:53
Guest15726n2diy: yes10:53
zannerhello10:53
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howlingmadhowiessn: you can try unmounting the drive and then reading about the mount command and how you can force ownership10:53
darkchr0n0sdamianl , you want to mount ntfs drives ... rite ?10:53
WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"10:53
cjae_ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link10:53
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n2diyGuest15726: nohup > so send the data to null, which doesn't exsist, and it goes away.10:54
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cjae_it is not working on my xubuntu system so I don't know if anyone can help me in here?10:54
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Julzheguru: i have it, whats the addy for the pastebin?10:54
Guest15726n2diy: so what command should i type ? "nohup ______" ?10:54
heguruJulz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:54
carlinuxon ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 it shows me user not known to the underlying module10:54
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WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login failed"10:55
Bielekestefg there is no eth0 nor eth1 in devices10:55
stefgBieleke: #ubuntu+1 m no gutsy support here10:55
howlingmadhowiessn: in particular the mount option "user" should interest you here10:55
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lockewtf10:55
lockecmon10:55
n2diyGuest15726: I don't know, that would be a scripting, or bash question, sorry I don't know your answer.10:55
carlinuxwhen i run recovery it works10:55
damianldarkchr0n0s lol no, i have drives mounted but because there not mounted in /media they arent recognised by gnome and dont show up in "computer"10:56
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WoetWhen i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login failed"10:56
sai;10:57
WoetI mounted it with sshfs10:57
howlingmadhowiessn: mount options for fat allow also uid=<uid number> and gid=<gid number>. these could solve the problem :)10:57
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darkchr0n0sdamianl you need to add them to fstab10:57
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stefgWoet: you have to rephrase your question to make it comprehnedable. repeating doesn't help10:57
n2diyWoet: Try /mtn/media? Tho I think it should be mnt/media?10:57
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WoetWell i changed it to /home/mounted now10:58
WoetGoing to it with cd (terminal) works fine10:58
darkchr0n0sdamianl : you need to add the hard drives to /etc/fstab, next reboot they wil show up10:58
it-linuxOK carlinux, I think I know, you want to run without xserver right?10:58
WoetUsing ubuntu to reach it gives errror "the attempt to log in failed"10:58
carlinuxno10:58
carlinuxi want to run with X10:58
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carlinuxbut i want my tty back10:58
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Innomenhi guys, i'm back10:59
it-linuxcarlinux | so? What did you do?10:59
Julzheguru: the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3935310:59
damianlthey are fstab is automounting them. its to do with that gnome service that autodetects and mounts drives, cant remember the name10:59
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Innomennow when it boots it hangs at "bootguard" ubuntu 7.0410:59
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carlinuxi installed a new kernel 2.6.20-16-lowlatency and the new nvidia driver then i lost my tty10:59
damianlanyone know the name of it10:59
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n2diydamianl: init.d?11:00
it-linuxcarlinux | when I press ctrl+alt+f1 to f6, there's a terminal command11:00
WoetWhen i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs11:00
carlinuxit is supposed to be11:00
n2diyit-linux: good!11:00
damianlno, its a 3 letter name i think11:00
heguruJulz: this is from the LiveCD where the card is working?11:00
carlinuxbut i cant login11:00
Julzheguru" yep11:01
carlinuxit tells me user not known to the underlying module11:01
overcluckercarlinux, did you compile the kernel yourself?11:01
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carlinuxno11:01
Innomenrephrase of problem: I'm installed ubuntu 7.04, it installed fine, but when it tries to boot off the drive instead of the cd it hangs and says "bootguard" with a blinking cursor11:01
pablozwoet: try  chmod a+rwx /home/mounted11:01
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carlinuxbut nvidia recompiled it11:01
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carlinuxto make it compatible11:01
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heguruJulz: ok rt250011:01
heguruJulz: thats your module :)11:01
overcluckercarlinux, well whover did didn't add it to config11:01
ferronicaBest CD label printing application available for ubuntu 7.04 GNOME?11:02
heguruJulz: on the linux where you want the card to work11:02
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WoetPabloz: still the same error11:02
heguruJulz: just type: sudo modprobe -v rt250011:02
carlinuxwhat ? sorry i'm french11:02
Innomena google of bootguard hang ubuntu only gave one result11:02
stefgInnomen: could it be that your bios prevented a proper grub-install? some bios's have 'antivirus' feature which lock the mbr, so it can't be written to it11:02
pablozchown root.root /home/mounted11:02
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geoaxisany one running eclipse here11:02
overcluckercarlinux, i wasn't aware that nvidia did that11:02
pablozwoet:  chown root.root /home/mounted11:02
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Theory_Downloaded Realplayer for linux. Its a .bin file what do you do with a .bin file to get it installed?11:03
it-linuxcarlinux | When you restart, do you have a choice on the previous kernel ?11:03
Innomenhmmm, i'm not sure, i'm running a del gx260, i'll boot into the bios and see if something looks like that11:03
darkchr0n0sTheory_ ./filename11:03
darkchr0n0sTheory_ ./filename.bin11:03
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damianlwho here uses "fruityloops"11:03
Woetpabloz: still the same11:03
Innomenmy roomates uses fruityloops11:03
pabloztheory chmod a+rwx *.bin11:03
Irreducibilisfruityloops?!11:03
Innomenits a music app11:03
Innomenlike mtv music generator11:03
IrreducibilisHow odd...11:04
carlinuxi uninstall every kernels and uninstall nvidia drivers and i reinstall 2.6.20-16-generic kernel and it's the same problem11:04
Theory_darkchr0n0s, I get "permission denied" even while running as root.11:04
Innomenits crazy11:04
damianlit runs %90-%100 in wine now  im so impressed11:04
carlinuxyes i can see other kernels11:04
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Woetim on user "wouter" in ubuntu pabloz, does that make a difference?11:04
darkchr0n0sTheory_ use this command chmod +x filename.bin11:04
carlinuxi can boot on them but i cant load Xserver11:04
insomninjaI want to take a full backup of my hdd, including my windows rescue partition is dd if=/dev/myhdd of=/media/external/myhdd.iso a good idea?11:04
pablozwoet11:04
Theory_Okay thanks its working now.11:05
Innomensomething in here says "PXE BIS default policy" accept/deny11:05
pablozwiet : yes11:05
carlinuxcause of incompatibility of nvidia drivers11:05
damianlthats an impressive piece of software11:05
Innomenany idea what that means in human speak?11:05
Woetwhat should i do in stead then pabloz ?11:05
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pablozwoet: You have to change the permisions for user wouter11:05
Julzheguru: ok, i did that, it asked for password, i pressed enter and nothing happened, so i tpyed it again and it put out a line but notjing new has happened.11:05
WoetHow?11:05
ferronicaBest CD label printing application available for ubuntu 7.04 GNOME?11:05
damianlferronica nerolinux?11:06
pablozedit /etc/passwd11:06
Irreducibilislightscribe....11:06
pablozchange group11:06
heguruJulz: yes its ok, the network module should be loaded now, can you type: dmesg | tail11:06
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it-linuxcarlinux | I've have the same problems once, you can login in the failsafe mode, then after command line type startx11:06
heguruJulz: and check the lines for error?11:06
Woetpabloz: i know ubuntu for 1 hour now, please be more clear.11:06
ferronicadamianl: i think not free :(11:06
darkchr0n0slol11:06
Innomenok, i'm satified that its not a bios mbr protection11:06
Innomenwhat else could it be?11:06
pablozwoet: and my englidh is too bad11:07
damianlyou could pirate it...and not feel bad11:07
damianllinux software should br free anyway11:07
Theory_darkchr0n0s, Is there a live video recorder available for linux?11:07
damianlbe11:07
ferronicadamianl: from where i can get it ?11:07
pablozwhoet: try...11:07
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darkchr0n0sTheory_ , sorry no idea..11:07
n2diydamianl: it is free.11:07
Julzheguru: no errors11:07
Theory_ok11:07
Innomenwhat is an appropriate interval for repeating a request?11:07
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carlinuxbut is there any other way to fix it ?11:07
heguruJulz: ok so your network should be working now11:07
Woetpabloz: i still dont get it11:08
it-linuxcarlinux | sorry with recovery mode11:08
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heguruJulz: in ubuntu, on the traybar you should see a network icon11:08
WoetWhen i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs11:08
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damianln2diy nerolinux isnt free anymore11:08
pablozwhoet: chown wouter.wouter /home/mounted11:08
Julzheguru: yep i see it11:08
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carlinuxi'll try it11:08
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heguruJulz: if you click at it you will see the detected networks11:08
Innomenthey make paid apps for linux?11:08
carlinuxthanks everyone11:08
Innomenheh i didnt know that11:08
damianllol11:08
n2diydamianl: ah, I didn't know that. Who cares? I use ubuntu?11:09
Theory_anyone know of a video recorder for linux?11:09
Amaranthdamianl: That kind of discussion is not allowed here11:09
it-linuxcarlinux | good luck11:09
Woetpabloz: still the same error11:09
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damianl freedom of speech11:09
Innomeni agree11:09
pablozwoet: wait11:09
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pablozI try somethinkelse11:09
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pepignomi leggete11:10
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Innomenwhat part of "damianl: n2diy nerolinux isnt free anymore" isnt appropriate?11:10
darkchr0n0sdamianl : freedom of speech has it's limitations11:10
pepignomidate una mano11:10
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Innomeni assume its a statement of fact11:10
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Julzheguru: you're gonna hate this, but it only had the default modem connection there...11:10
Innomeni misunderstood11:10
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n2diyInnomen: ??? Who said it was inappropriate?11:10
Innomeni see11:11
Innomenhe's being scolded for pointing out the white elephant11:11
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xeeranyone know of a way to bind a hotkey to a joystick button?11:11
damianlits because i said "you could pirate it...and not feel bad"11:11
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Innomenyou see damianl you11:11
Julzheguru: it says "no network devices have been found" and "manual configuation"11:11
n2diyI'm being scolded????11:11
Innomenre not allowed ot talk about the elephant11:11
Innomennot you11:11
Innomenn2diy11:11
IrreducibilisDoes anyone feel bad about pirating?11:11
darkchr0n0syou need to realize that there is no white elephant ;)11:11
Innomeni was spekaing to damianl11:12
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ikonia!offtopic11:12
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:12
darkchr0n0sIrreducibilis they do,.. when they are caught :P11:12
pablozwoe:11:12
pablozedit /etc/passwd11:12
heguruJulz: ok, lets try to debug this11:12
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heguruJulz: type iwconfig11:12
damianllinux software should be free thats all i said11:12
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heguruJulz: and see if you get any interface11:12
Innomenikonia: my quiestion is perfectly on topic and its being ignored *shrugs*11:12
Amaranthdamianl: Don't tell people to steal stuff11:12
n2diydamianl: it is free!?11:12
ikoniaInnomen: whats up11:12
Innomenuntil i get help i'll talk about the weather :)11:12
heguruJulz: if not then do this: sudo modprobe -r rt250011:12
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heguruJulz: then: sudo modprobe rt250011:13
pablozwoet: and change line where is user root11:13
overcluckerIrreducibilis, now that i have linux, i look back at my windows days in general and feel bad11:13
heguruJulz: then run dmesg | tail11:13
xeeranyone know of a way to bind a hotkey to a joystick button?11:13
damianlanyway11:13
Innomenubuntu hangs and says "bootguard"11:13
heguruJulz: and check the output11:13
ikoniaInnomen what version of ubuntu ?11:13
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Innomeni have no idea what to do11:13
pabloz3 th field11:13
Innomen7.0411:13
damianlAmaranth: lol11:13
Irreducibilisoverclucker: I still like windows... XP that is. Vista can go in the trash.11:13
pablozchange to 011:13
Amaranthdamianl: It's not funny11:13
pabloz4th field change to 011:13
ikoniaInnomen is this on mac hardware by any chance11:13
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pabloztoo11:13
Woet'wouter:x:1000:1000:Wouter van Eekelen' should become 'wouter:x:0:1000:Wouter van Eekelen'11:13
Woetpabloz ?11:14
darkchr0n0s4 years they spent to make vista.. the crappy OS11:14
Innomenno11:14
Woetor 0:0 ?11:14
ikonia!offtopic >darkchr0n0s11:14
Innomendell gx26011:14
darkchr0n0sikonia  alrught alright :P11:14
pablozok11:14
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pablozYou traied it ?11:14
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overcluckerIrreducibilis, yes, it requires either a money or piracy to make it a fully functioning system though11:14
ikoniaInnomen ok, the reason I wasked is because bootguard appears to show up as boot protection in the new macs (never heard of it before)11:14
carlinuxit-linux: it doesnt work11:14
Innomenlovelyt11:14
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pablozand you have to pre login11:15
Innomenit apear the ubuntu installer still needs a great deal of work11:15
ikoniaInnomen just reading about it11:15
darkchr0n0sikonia : any "on demand" video streaming servers for a linux box ?11:15
WoetI cant change it pabloz: 'You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file'11:15
Julzheguru: no errors11:15
Innomenperhaps i should wait yet another version11:15
overcluckerimissdos11:15
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ikoniadarkchr0n0s there are a few broadcast software packages in the repo, can't remember the names11:15
pablozThis changes you have to do as a root11:15
heguruJulz: what did you get when you type: dmesg | tail11:15
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pablozYou must login as a root11:15
ChousukeWoet: Why do you want to make yourself root11:15
Chousukeand no you don't need to login as root11:15
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damianlAmaranth i laughed11:16
WoetWhen i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs11:16
Woetthats why.11:16
heguruJulz: i know you don't have internet on that machine, but if you can get some lines :)11:16
carlinuxit-linux: any other idea ?11:16
ChousukeWoet: eh?11:16
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WoetAnd i would like to solve it11:16
ChousukeWoet: well making yourself root is definitely not the way to do it11:17
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ikoniaInnomen it looks like boot guard is a setting in the bios, although I'm no certain as I've never heard of it before11:17
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WoetI have no idea what im doing anyways, pabloz told me to change the 1000 to 011:17
pablozchosuke: I hear, too11:17
overclucker!offtopic11:17
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:17
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ikoniaInnomen: it maybe under the heading of "virus" protection in the bios11:17
ChousukeWoet: that makes your user the superuser11:17
Irreducibilis!jabber11:17
ubotujabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org11:17
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ikoniaChousuke: that is very unwise to do that11:17
overcluckerthanks ubotu i forgot the name of the channel11:17
overcluckerhehe11:17
Innomenno, the bios is very simple on the dell, there isw no mention of virus anywhere under the security tab or anywhere else11:17
Woeti just want to browse my mounted folder11:17
Chousukeikonia: that's what I've been saying :P11:17
ikoniaInnomen just quoting what I'm reading11:18
ikoniaChousuke who told him to change his uid ?11:18
Innomeni know11:18
Innomeni appreciate it, i'm just responding11:18
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damianlsudo format c:\11:18
it-linuxcarlinux | Ok, are you still in recovery mode?11:18
Chousukeikonia: pabloz apparently11:18
carlinuxno11:18
carlinuxi tried it11:18
ikonia!offtopic >damianl11:18
ChousukeWoet: anyway, you need to fix the mount problem some other way11:18
pablozikonia:   :-/11:18
it-linuxcarlinux | please use it again11:18
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ChousukeWoet: please tell in detail what you're trying to mount and where and how11:18
Julzheguru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39354/11:19
Innomenso no one here has ever had a fresh installed hang with only "bootguard" as a given reason?11:19
carlinuxwhen i do ctrl+alt+f2 it goes to tty11:19
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ikoniaInnomen at what point do you see bootguard, first thing on the screen or do you get the grub menu11:19
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carlinuxbut i cant do anything cause there is a message " user not known to the underlying module "11:19
Innomenprior to grub menu11:19
n2diycarlinux: good, that is what it should do.11:19
it-linuxcarlinux | don't type startx but type this : /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:19
ikoniaInnomen ok, so it looks like something has not allowed you to modify the boot sector11:19
Innomeni was getting a menu before but it couldent find the paritions so i reinstalled11:19
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carlinuxnothing will happen ?11:20
WoetI mounted a ssh server (my webserver) to ubuntu, i mounted it to /home/dutchpancakes. When i go there via terminal with 'cd /home/dutchpancakes' and then 'ls' shows up fine. But when i go there via ubuntu (Places -> Computer -> FIlesystem -> Home -> Dutchpancakes) it gives error "The attempt to login in failed".11:20
ikoniaInnomen you can try booting from the live cd and re-installing grub with the instructions ubotu will send you in a minute11:20
WoetI used sshfs11:20
ikonia!grub > Innomen11:20
it-linuxcarlinux | sorry /etc/X1111:20
Innomenoky11:20
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Innomenwill try brb11:20
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ChousukeWoet: what command did you use to mount it with sshfs?11:20
ikoniaWoet because its trying to auth via ssh11:20
it-linuxcarlinux | you find xorg.conf11:20
carlinuxyes11:20
ikoniaWoet nautilus can't do that11:20
Woethow do i just browse my ssh server then?11:21
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ChousukeWoet: that sounds like you didn't specify your password anywhere, or set up public key authentication11:21
n2diyWoet: log in from a terminal11:21
ikoniaWoet mounting it on /home is a bad idea unless you have proper centralised home dir sharing setup11:21
it-linuxcarlinux | if there's another xorg.conf back-up or anything?11:21
carlinuxyes11:21
WoetI did login via terminal (on the ssh server) n2diy11:21
ikoniaWoet things like nis and ldap are used for for this sort of thing11:22
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it-linuxcarlinux | could you write it?11:22
WoetChousuke: i did 'sshfs root@mydomain.nl:/home /home/dutchpancakes'11:22
carlinuxyes11:22
ikoniaWoet: sshfs is user based auth, not system based11:22
Woetthen i needed to enter my root's password, so i did11:22
carlinuxin wich section you think there could be an error ?11:22
ikoniaWoet: that, in my opinion is an unwise setup11:22
n2diyWoet: So you can access the server via SSH, but not the files?11:22
Woetwhen i go do 'cd /home/dutchpancakes' and then 'ls' it shows all files11:22
ikoniaWoet: I heard that11:23
WoetI can access the files via terminal, but not via Places -> Computer.11:23
it-linuxcarlinux | usually when nvidia driver wants to install, it make a back-up, just in case for error11:23
carlinuxyes11:23
ikoniaWoet: I've potentially explained that to you11:23
darkchr0n0sikonia , what about system under ssfs.. i mean if about 50 people sshfs to same PC, what is the negative impact on the PC and network ?11:23
Woetn2diy is asking things too ikonia11:23
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ikoniadarkchr0n0s wow - not sure how that would exxect it under sshfs,11:23
Chousukedarkchr0n0s: well, it may be a strain on the server11:23
ikoniadarkchr0n0s effect it that should read11:23
WoetI have a server, and i want all the files listed on my desktop like its on my harddisk.11:24
Woet:)11:24
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ikoniadarkchr0n0s the initial auth is the only real issue, but one your start "reading" from the file system it will start hitting the network quite hard11:24
it-linuxcarlinux | could you write it here? example : xorg.conf  xorg-back-up.conf...please, I try to configure your xserver setting11:24
ChousukeWoet: set up NFS on your server instead :P11:24
pablozwoet: ntfs11:24
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pablozwoet: samba11:24
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it-linuxcarlinux | in /etc/X11 folder...11:24
Woetand i cannot alter the server in any ways11:24
darkchr0n0sikonia , and what about idle sshfs connections ?.. do they take resources on server or netwrok ?11:24
Chousukewhy not? you have root in there.11:25
pablozwoet : ntfs is simple and fasty11:25
ikoniadarkchr0n0s pretty much not11:25
Chousukepabloz: I'm sure you mean NFS11:25
it-linuxcarlinux??11:25
carlinuxyou want an output output of my xorg.conf ?11:25
darkchr0n0sikonia , hmm.. thanks11:25
Woetoh, yes i can Chousuke11:25
WoetI can access it via putty11:25
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heguruJulz: http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/linux/category/wireless/11:25
ikoniaNFS/samba is not wise over the internet11:25
pablozsorry nfs11:25
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heguruJulz: just read the link11:25
Woetbut its a live server with 100 customers, so i cant do very dangerous stuff11:25
ikoniado'nt recommend things unless you know the sitaution11:25
darkchr0n0sWoet what exactly u want ?11:25
it-linuxcarlinux | no, just type thye content of /etc/X11...11:25
WoetI have a server, and i want all the files listed on my desktop like its on my harddisk.11:25
carlinuxha ok11:25
russ_hello, am wanting to download Blender, and as a new ubuntu user, i am unsure which version i should be downloading.  Any suggestions?  Even if there is a better program available for noobs?11:25
pablozikonia samba/nfs as tunneling11:26
ChousukeWoet: I see.11:26
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ikoniaWoet then try changing the mount location from /home11:26
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ikoniapabloz thats a massive overhead,11:26
WoetWhere to mount it ikonia?11:26
carlinuxi have 27 xorg.conf backup11:26
darkchr0n0s27!!11:26
ikoniaWoet anywhere that won't cause problems for your local desktop11:26
it-linuxcarlinux | 27??? there's a lot of it?11:27
Woetoh wait11:27
enanoHi! How can I change the "nb_NO ISO-8859-1" to be the default character-set instead of UTF-8 in Feisty? Thanks!11:27
ChousukeWoet: it seems since you're loggin in as root to mount it via sshfs it may appear with as root's on the local machine too.11:27
WoetI would like to become a root user.11:27
magnetronruss_: use applications > add/remove and search for blender in the "all" category. check the box and hit ok, then it will be installed11:27
darkchr0n0s!root | Woet11:27
ubotuWoet: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:27
carlinuxyes i know !11:27
ikoniaWoet that is unwise11:27
Innomensame deal11:27
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Innomenbootguard11:27
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Innomenbut what you sent me was rather vague11:27
WoetI can browse the mounted folder when im root, not when im user11:27
ikoniaInnomen all the information I'm finding suggest bootguard is a "bios" thing11:27
WoetSo i want to become root.11:28
overcluckerenano is the locale supported? do locale -a11:28
heguruWoet: if you just want to browse files over ssh on gnome, you can use ssh:// vfs11:28
magnetronenano: you get the option to choose it when you install feisty11:28
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darkchr0n0sWoet you can change permissions browse either wahy11:28
carlinuxit-linux: when i compare the xorg.conf to the xorg.bak* it is similar11:28
Past_Imageshey i backed up my home dir and reinstalled but when i delete my new .evolution folder and pull across my old one i don't have any emails - it's not working. is there a way to fix this to get my old emails back?11:28
enanooverclucker: I don't see it in that list no ...11:28
heguruWoet: on gnome if you press Alt+F2 then type ssh://youserverusername@yourserver11:28
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darkchr0n0sbecoming root is not the solution... its a problem11:28
Woethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39355/ see?11:28
it-linuxcarlinux | type this : sudo mv xorg.conf backup(choose the last one ) xorg.conf11:28
Innomenif the bios isnt letting me make mbr changes then how did i install windows?11:29
carlinuxit-linux: and i can read the oldest one (the one before nvidia-config scrapped it)11:29
Julzheguru: that all makes sense but when i type ipconfig i get "no wireless extensions"11:29
russ_magnetron, it is saying that There is no matching application available11:29
Woetikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39355/11:29
ikoniaWoet: with respect, there is no way you should be playing around like this on a server with 100 live customers11:29
heguruJulz: are you sure both the machines are using the same type of network card?11:29
it-linuxcarlinux | ok, you use it11:29
ChousukeWoet: okay, that's simple11:29
Innomenwhy am i the only humna on the planet top have encourntered this problem?11:29
Woetwell ikonia, if i cant access the server, 10 customers will go away because of the bugs i cant solve.11:29
ikoniaWoet: you need to change permissions on your local hard disk /home dir11:29
Innomendo i get a cookie?11:29
heguruJulz: because based on the output of dmesg you pasted, the driver does not seem to be loadin11:30
Innomen:)11:30
pablozwhen I try work as a oteruser than root I have some troubles11:30
it-linuxcarlinux | then you restart it11:30
Woethow to solve Chousuke?11:30
enanomagnetron: yeah, but I forgot to install it back then :)11:30
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Chousukepabloz: you're using Ubuntu wrong then11:30
carlinuxit-linux: ok but i tried it before11:30
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ChousukeWoet: since you mounted the thing with sshfs as root, only root can use the mounted data11:30
ikoniaWoet I suggest you look at http://www.ubuntu.com and invest in a support package from canonical as your asking for comercial help11:30
pablozI always work as root11:30
ChousukeWoet: I don't think there's anything you can do about that11:30
Chousukepabloz: that's improper11:30
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carlinuxit-linux: i did dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and i saw no change11:31
Chousukepabloz: there's no need11:31
Innomenits dangerous11:31
magnetronruss_: make sure you did search for blender in the "all" category, and that you have the universe repository enabled11:31
ikoniaWoet: if this is for paying customers, its clear you are not confident with what you are doing. You would benifit from a support package from canonical11:31
Woet:-/ so your saying there is not 1 solution possible?11:31
Innomenbeing root all the time11:31
pablozmaybe11:31
magnetron!universe | russ_11:31
uboturuss_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:31
jimmityUbuntu commercial support lawl?11:31
Julzheguru: yep, same boxes, same everything, they are the same cards11:31
it-linuxcarlinux | could you type xorg.conf backup before nvidia, here?11:31
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ChousukeWoet: you used sudo while mounting with sshfs, right?11:31
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ikoniajimmity yes, ubuntu comercial support11:31
Woetyes Chousuke11:31
pablozbut , this is comfortable11:31
WoetDo i need to mount it while not being root?11:31
ChousukeWoet: perhaps. try.11:31
ikoniaWoet your not listening11:31
it-linuxcarlinux | not the content just the file?11:31
jimmityIt's not quite redhat is it :)11:31
Julzheguru: dound i use ndiswrapper youthink?11:31
carlinuxhow11:32
ChousukeWoet: but don't mount them into /home/whatevr11:32
Woeti will try Chousuke11:32
ikoniaWoet when you are logging in via ssh over sshfs your doing it as the root user11:32
WoetWhere then?11:32
heguruJulz: well this card seems to be using rt2500 driver which is native11:32
ChousukeWoet: use /mnt/dutchpancakes or something11:32
Woetk11:32
heguruJulz: no need for ndiswrapper11:32
ikoniaWoet I strongly advise you to visit canonical website and lookg for a support contract as you will break your paying customers machine very soon if you carry on like this11:32
heguruJulz: ndiswrapper is for the cases where no linux driver is available for your card11:32
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Innomenwoet: seriously, you can even write it off11:33
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Chousukeikonia: I don't think he will. sshfs is pretty much the same as connecting to the machine with ssh11:33
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carlinuxxorg.conf.2007092502183911:33
ikoniaChousuke I know this11:33
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geoaxisguys need help, cant start eclipse on ubuntu fiesty11:33
russ_magnetron, ubotu, thank you for your help, got it now...11:33
darkchr0n0ssshfs works on ssh things itself..11:33
carlinux# This file was generated by dexconf11:33
it-linuxcarlinux | my example : the content of my /etc/X11 : app-defaults cursors default-display-manager fonts gdm rgb.txt x xinit xkb xorg.conf xserver xsession xsession.d ...11:33
carlinuxnot by nvidia11:33
overcluckerenano you could try: localedef -i nb_NO -f ISO-8859-1 nb_NO11:33
Chousukethough I wonder why he wants to mount everyone's home directory.11:34
WoetChousuke: fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /mnt/dutchpancakes11:34
WoetI cant mount while not being root.11:34
ikoniaChousuke I'm not interested, I'm suggesting dropping this line of support11:34
darkchr0n0she wants to see their private files ?11:34
cjae_how do I make multiple audio signals work in ubuntu, like having two versions of vlc open with sound and why is this not enabled?11:34
Julzheguru: so the linux driver should have been installed when i installed ubuntu? perhaps its just not recognising the card? ill put in the card that works and check11:34
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carlinuxi have 35 files in my X1111:34
carlinuxare u searching for one in particular ?11:34
heguruJulz: yes try that11:34
ikoniaWoet I think you are on dangerous ground, you are not confident with what you are doing and asking random people for help on a comercial platform. Visit canonical website and negotiate a support contract rather than asking in here11:34
ChousukeWoet: that's a permissions issue on the directory.11:34
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enanooverclucker: it's in locale -a now11:34
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ChousukeWoet: fix it11:35
WoetI will mount it to /home/wouter/dutchpancakes11:35
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iktslight issue where update manager crashed while upgrading to 7.10, is there anyway to repair the install without formatting?11:35
it-linuxcarlinux | yes - type which have the word xorg.conf11:35
ikoniaikt depends what has changed and how bootable it is11:35
WoetTHakns CHousuke11:35
Woetit works!11:35
Woet:D11:35
Woetnow i can finally get back to work, thanks.11:35
Chousukenow make sure you don't mess it up :P11:35
ikoniaWoet: be aware that by changing the permissions, you have just changed the permissions on the file system on the server11:35
iktikonia: still works, still boots up, it's just some applications won't run, and stuff like gaim is still there etc11:36
pablozI had to leave11:36
ikoniaikt re-do the update11:36
pablozwoet: how fixed your problem ?11:36
it-linuxcarlinux | coz I try to find the right xorg.conf for your system.11:36
carlinuxxorg.conf_backup_200709301926 xorg.conf_backup_200709301341 xorg.conf_backup_200709301122  xorg.conf_backup_20070930084411:36
InnomenChousuke: good karma for you :)11:36
WoetI mounted it to another directory pabloz, which i have access too.11:36
carlinuxit-linux: you are searching for the oldest one ?11:36
iktikonia tried sudo "update-manager -c -d" but said i was up to date :s11:36
WoetChousuke: i have been working like this for over 6 months now, and the company has been working like this for 3 years11:36
WoetNothing went wrong.11:36
ikoniaikt oh, thats unusual11:37
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ikt:(11:37
it-linuxcarlinux | that's ok too, write it down!11:37
Chousukeikonia: he hasn't run chown or anything on the files, has he11:37
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clem_ppl, since there seems to be no-one in the #openoffice.org channel, let me ask this here: can I get OOo in French via apt-get? I'm in xubuntu 7.0411:37
carlinuxxorg.conf.2007092500560411:37
Chousukeikonia: so why would they change? unless sshfs is exceptionally stupid.11:37
ikoniaclem_ change your system local11:37
ikoniaChousuke I thought he had changed the permissions11:38
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it-linuxcarlinux | is that all?11:38
Chousukeikonia: nah, he just mounted it in a directory where he had a right to mount them.11:38
carlinuxit-linux: wait a sec11:38
magnetronclem_: yes, install the french language in system > administration > language settings11:38
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Woetis there btw any antivirus for linux, or isnt it needed?11:39
Woetubuntu *11:39
clem_ikonia, my xubuntu is already in French, and I caught OOo via the "Add/Remove" app - is that what you meant?11:39
ikoniaclem_: check magnetron's comments.11:39
clem_magnetron, thx will take a look11:39
clem_brb11:39
enanooverclucker: do you also know how to set it as default?11:40
magnetron!antivirus | Woet11:40
ubotuWoet: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus11:40
Woet!linuxvirus | WOet11:40
Woetoh pm11:40
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carlinuxxorg.conf_backup_200709301926 xorg.conf_backup_200709301341 xorg.conf_backup_200709301122 xorg.conf_backup_200709300844 xorg.conf.backupxorg.conf.20070930185601 xorg.conf.20070930124858 xorg.conf.2007093012394 xorg.conf.20070930123825 xorg.conf.20070930122938 xorg.conf.20070930122721 xorg.conf.20070930111841xorg.conf.20070930081733 xorg.conf.20070930075604 xorg.conf.20070925011026 xorg.conf.20070925005604 xorg.conf11:40
iktany repair utility?11:40
Woetim starting to love ubuntu more and more11:40
ikonia!pastebin >carlinux11:40
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carlinuxsorryu11:41
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overcluckerenano, now you need to sudo gedit /etc/profile and put a # in front of the export LANG=en_US.utf-8, saving it for later then export LANG=nb_NO.ISO-8859-111:41
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WoetHow do i use google talk with GAIM?11:42
ikoniagoogle talk is a closed protocol11:42
carlinuxit-linux: i dont think xorg.conf is the problem11:42
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WoetIt works with pidgin ikonia.11:42
ikoniadoes it ?11:42
WoetYes11:42
enanooverclucker: hmm, /etc/profile doesn't contain LANG= etc. it's a totally different file11:43
carlinuxit-linux: cause as you can see i tried a lot of time by changing it11:43
ikonianot sure how that works11:43
heguruWoet: GoogleTalk Voice chat doesn't work with gaim, google talk works11:43
magnetronikonia, Woet: the text part of goolge talk is jabber compliant11:43
WoetI just want the chat part11:43
ikoniayes, but not the voice11:43
WoetBut i cant configure it in gaim11:43
enanooverclucker: maybe it's /etc/enviroment ?11:43
magnetronWoet: it uses the jabber prot11:43
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heguruWoet: google talk is based on XMPP and is not proprietary11:43
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carlinuxit-linux: and perhaps it could be a runlevel problem11:43
Woetahw ok11:43
Woetserver is gmail.com11:43
Woet?11:43
overcluckerenano, lemme check11:43
Woetand resource?11:43
t3318_anyone use webcam in Ubuntu?11:43
carlinuxby default it is supposed to be runlevel 3 but i'm running in runlevel 211:43
cjae_ok I have split an avi off a win box to fit it on two cdr and now have the two halves on a ubuntu box how can I mend them?11:43
magnetronhttp://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=24073 Woet11:44
it-linuxcarlinux | now we focus on xorg.conf.20070925005604 and 20070925011026. Now you type : sudo mv xorg.conf.20070925005604 xorg.conf after that you fill your password.11:44
cjae_can Avidemux do this?11:44
magnetront3318_: yes a lot of people use webcams in ubuntu11:44
magnetron!enter | cjae_11:44
ubotucjae_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:44
carlinuxin tty1 i can see things like normal11:44
t3318_magnetron: oh, so what IM Client you use?11:44
it-linuxcarlinux | how is it now?11:44
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carlinux211:45
magnetront3318_: i don't use a webcam, but i use ekiga for voice chat. it supports video too11:45
Woetthanks11:45
magnetront3318_: i think amsn has some video support too11:45
ksthow much empty disk space will i need for an upgrade to gutsy? i got only like 500-700mb left on my linux partition (got another /home partition with lots of free space tho), will i run into problems when updating?11:45
it-linuxcarlinux | have you try startx command?11:45
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carlinuxyes11:46
t3318_magnetron: but ekia is commercial11:46
carlinuxit's logging in root session by default11:46
it-linuxcarlinux | so tell me the result?11:46
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magnetront3318_: ekiga is SIP compliant, and it's open source software11:46
cjae_magnetron, wont I get in trouble for not using pastebin then11:46
lordofthepigshello, my company has just installed an 802.1x authentication on its wired network, and I need to configure xsupplicant to work with it11:46
lordofthepigs I have it running now, but I would like to know how I can make sure that the xsupplicant deamon starts up at the same time as my system11:46
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lordofthepigsand how to make it start before DHCP (since I can't get a valid IP address before having been authenticated)11:46
lordofthepigsdoes anybody have an idea how to do that?11:47
magnetron!enter | lordofthepigs11:47
ubotulordofthepigs: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:47
Innomenwhen i run grub "setup (hd2,2)" all goes well except it return two non fatal errors, they are embed commands, is this more important than the app is letting on?11:47
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lordofthepigsmagnetron: Yeah, I'm sure people love to read a question spanning 10 lines11:47
ikoniaInnomen can you paste the errors in the pastebin11:47
ikonialordofthepigs ?11:48
Innomenno, but i'll type one out (diffreent machine)11:48
ikoniacool11:48
it-linuxcarlinux | where are you?11:48
carlinux?11:48
WoetWho helped me switch to ubuntu again?11:48
slackernlordofthepigs: maybe this page can help you http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d11:48
ikoniaWoet: does it matter ?11:48
magnetronlordofthepigs: it's easier to read a question that spans 10 lines then one that spans 10 messages11:48
Woetikonia, im just wondering11:49
Woeti thought it was something with pinguin, but i cant find him11:49
it-linuxcarlinux | is it working? Or there's still a problem?11:49
Innomenrunning "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd2,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)11:49
carlinuxthere is still the same problem11:49
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ikoniaInnomen under it did, you see one that succeded11:49
Innomendoes that twicfe11:49
ikoniaahhh thats not great then11:49
ikoniayou need one to succedd11:49
Innomenyes11:49
Innomenthe one at the bottom worked11:50
ikoniaok, mega11:50
overcluckerenano, /etc/environment looks promising11:50
it-linuxcarlinux | what is the error ?11:50
carlinuxwhen i press ctrl+alt+f2-6 i cant do anything cause it says " user not known to the underlying module"11:50
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enanooverclucker: I changed it now, and I need to restartX for it to work?11:50
cjae_anyone know how to use avidemux to join to avi's11:50
Julzheguru: umm, i know why it wasnt working... its cos im a fool lol, the card wasnt in the motherboard properly! it had power but some connections musnt have beeen working... thanks so much for all your help, i really appreciate it11:51
Innomenthetutorial page you sent me to wanted me to hit tab to autocomplete commands and such it did not behave at all like suggested, so i didnt it by hand heheh11:51
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Innomendid it*11:51
heguruJulz: welcome :)11:51
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ikoniaInnomen yeah, a few people have complained about auto complete, not sure why it doesn't work for everyone11:51
ikoniaits on my list of things to sort out/check out11:51
carlinuxit-linux: if the user is not known by the module "tty" i think it's because of /dev/tty* properties11:51
Innomeni got a menu to happen before11:51
lordofthepigsslackern: Thanks for that, but will that help making sure that xsupplicant has finished the authentication before dhclient starts configuring eth0?11:52
carlinuxthe group of tty2 (by example) is root11:52
Julzheguru: haha thanks, well im off now to get the hang of things, catchya :)11:52
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carlinuxnot tty as usual11:52
overcluckerenano, probably need to reboot, locale affects more than just x11:52
carlinuxcarlinux@carlinux:~$ ps -A | grep tty11:52
carlinux 6100 tty7     00:01:40 Xorg11:52
carlinuxcarlinux@carlinux:~$11:52
Innomenif i cant fix this i'm gunna give up on ubuntu till its mature enough to really compete with microsloth, i mean ti dosent even have a device manager yet :/11:52
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Innomeni'll use it on my laptop because it dosent HAVE to work11:53
it-linuxcarlinux | on tty, we focus on it first, is startx can show up? like GUI with icon there?11:53
carlinuxthere's supposed to be tty 1-6 running11:53
ikoniaInnomen it is mature, if you have a bios thing blocking it, thats the problem11:53
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overcluckerenano, but have livecd ready, incase it doesn't take11:53
Innomenno it isnt11:53
Innomenfor the 5th time11:53
ikoniaInnomen however if your not confident with ubuntu, don't use it11:53
carlinuxyes11:53
Innomeni had a grub boot menu11:53
Innomenlike 2 hours ago11:53
ikoniaInnomen yes, I read that11:53
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Innomeni just haddent formatted the paritions right and it couldent find them11:53
carlinuxwhen i load the normal kernel, everything boot as normal11:53
slackernlordofthepigs: Im not sure what options are available to it really, mostly paste the link to give you a little extra info along the way :), haven't done much to any service in years myself11:54
carlinuxi can log in11:54
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heguruInnomen: and how is existence of a device manager a sign of maturity of an OS again? besides that, there is a device manager in ubuntu11:54
Innomenno there isnt11:54
it-linuxcarlinux | still in X , can you look how manyworkspace there?11:54
ikoniaInnomen there is11:54
carlinuxyes11:54
Innomeni should not have to edit txt files to disable a touch mouse11:54
carlinuxi can run anything11:54
magnetronInnomen: ubuntu can be better than windows without being like windows11:54
Innomenok you link me to a screen shot of it in action11:54
ikoniaInnomen if you are not happy with ubuntu, don't use it11:54
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carlinuxi can run an Xsession as usual while loading the normal kernel11:55
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Innomenubuntu is not just another flavor of linux, its stated goal is to compete with the normal user market11:55
Innomen"linux for humans"11:55
carlinuxgdm is running as normal11:55
ikoniaInnomen whichi t does very well11:55
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magnetronInnomen: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm11:55
Innomenwithout a gui device manager?11:55
ikoniaInnomen it does have one11:55
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Innomenmagnetron: and water is wety, thanks for the update11:56
heguruInnomen: System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information11:56
it-linuxcarlinux | well it seem normal to me, but what are you going to do with another X desktop?11:56
magnetronInnomen: the title is not the article... read it, it does a good comparison11:56
Innomenanother obvious thing "just because we dont agree does not mean i'm ignorant."11:56
it-linuxcarlinux | what version of Ubuntu have you use?11:57
Innomeni've read it before11:57
carlinuxit-linux:7.0411:57
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ikonia no one said you where ignorant11:57
darkchr0n0slinux cannot be for humans :P11:57
cjae_Innomen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ11:57
carlinuxit-linux:feisty fawn 7.0411:57
darkchr0n0s!away11:57
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines11:57
carlinux64bits11:57
Innomenasking for a device manager is not unfair11:57
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Innomendont take it personally11:57
ikoniaInnomen no-one is11:57
carlinuxit-linux: i can run anything as normal11:57
magnetronInnomen: a good quote: "As a simple example, consider driver upgrades: one typically upgrades a hardware driver on Windows by going to the manufacturer's website and downloading the new driver; whereas in Linux you upgrade the kernel."11:57
InnomenBS11:57
carlinuxit-linux: exept the tty11:57
ikoniaInnomen BS ?11:58
carlinuxin x session11:58
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Innomenno one said anything too me when i asked for help but you11:58
ikoniaInnomen is that a problem /11:58
tarelerulzI am really lost . I don't have any sound when I put my headset into the back of my computer . It is normal to have audio in the back of computer right.11:58
ikoniaInnomen you askeed for help, I responded ? is that a bad thing ?11:58
Innomeni rag on ubuntu being an infant a little bit and now i'm in the middle of a 5 person conversation11:58
slackernInnomen: I guess everyone actually wants to be able to do it the GUI way, it just hasn't come that far for all kinds of devices yet, in 7.10 there is a failsafe GUI for graphics atleast, and same for setting graphics cards and monitors and their options, so it's going in the right direction., it just takes a while to get there :)11:58
ikoniaInnomen people are contributing to the conversation, its a public room11:58
Innomenslack: sweet11:58
Innomennot at all surpsieing11:59
ikoniano-one is "ragging" on you11:59
carlinuxit-linux: when u press alt+ctrl+f2, u switch in dos mode and it ask u to log in to use the console11:59
Innomenand that hardware info list is juyst that an info list11:59
it-linuxcarlinux | now I see the problem, I use 32 bits, but you have 64 bits, what type of proccessor you use?11:59
Innomeni cant even disbale a device via that11:59
carlinuxit-linux: amd6411:59
Innomendisable11:59
ikoniaInnomen: perhaps we should drop this debate as its off tpic and get back to support11:59
Innomensweet11:59
Innomenback to bootgaurd11:59
carlinuxit-linux: i'm not sure u understand what i mean11:59
tarelerulzI had friend who installed all the stuff. I read the manual and it talk about hook the sound up for front ,but there are no sound things in from other then dvd drive11:59
Innomenthat would be part of it11:59
magnetronInnomen: the drivers are in the kernel in linux. you have to accept that windows and linux are different.11:59
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Innomeninstallation should be THE priority11:59
Innomenits the first impression11:59
Innomenif installation is crap it wont matter what the rest of the os is like to the vast majority of potential users12:00
carlinuxit-linux: when u are logged in gnome and u press alt+ctrl+f2, what's happenning?12:00
ikoniaInnomen shall we look at trying to fix this12:00
Innomenand its not the bios, the dell gx260 does not have a virus protection mbr protection option12:00
magnetronInnomen: please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for discussing this. this channel are for support questions, please12:00
Innomenso, next idea please12:00
carlinuxit-linux u can log in a console12:00
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ikoniaInnomen can you spell out your disk layout to me, how many disks, how many OS's, how many partitions12:01
carlinuxit-linux: be me i cant12:01
Innomensure12:01
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Innomen3 physical drives, two 300 encrypted that we are not messing with12:01
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carlinuxit-linux: do u know what i mean ??12:01
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tarelerulzThe mother board has those plugs coming out the back.  don't have to do something to make a mouther board make sound come out the back do you12:02
ikoniaInnomen ok - do you have multiple Os's12:02
Innomen1 140 gb ata that has 3 partitions on it, 1 ubuntu, 1 win xp home, 1 swap.12:02
ikoniaok12:02
ikoniapaerfect12:02
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clem_hello again12:02
Innomenyes, winxp first, the i installed ubuntu into the free space12:02
magnetronclem_: hello12:02
it-linuxcarlinux | yes, when you press ctrl+alt+f1-6 : it's command line and you have to enter your user name and password, then you can login. And in the previous I ask you, what are you going to do?12:02
ikoniaInnomen which disk is the one with ubuntu12:02
Innomenthe 14012:02
ikoniaInnomen I assume the 3rd one12:02
clem_hi magnetron12:02
Innomenlike i saqid the 300s are storage and backup12:02
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ikoniaok - but which one is the 14012:03
Innomeni'm not sure what order they are in12:03
clem_I've another (general) question12:03
ikoniaok12:03
Innomenthe 300s are not primary12:03
it-linuxcarlinux | please don't be upsad12:03
ikoniaInnomen: in the bios does it list them in order (thats normally a good guide )12:03
carlinuxit-linux: sorry12:03
Innomenthey show up as unformatted until decrytped so they arent in the waqy i dont think12:03
clem_when given the choice, what's best to download when I want to install something: .tar.gz, .rpm or .yum?12:03
Innomenno it dosent list them at all12:03
ikoniaInnomen: no no, thats fine, there will still be a "deivce"12:03
carlinuxit-lnux: the problem is when i press alt+ctrl+f1-6 i cant log in12:03
ikoniaclem_ none12:03
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ikoniaclem_ use synaptic package manager12:04
clem_right12:04
Innomenside note: lvecd does not see the 300s12:04
Innomenlivecd*12:04
ikoniaInnomen ok - on the livecd which device is the 140 - sda/b/c12:04
it-linuxcarlinux | have you try to enter your user name and password? The same like normal login?12:04
carlinuxit-lnux: while pressing alt+ctrl+f1-6, u are supposed to see the log in command line12:04
clem_even for Firefox add-ons, like the flash player?12:04
Innomenbut it sees the ubuntu install and the winxp install12:04
ikoniaclem_ yup12:04
Innomenhold on i'll tell ya12:04
ikoniaInnomen perfect12:04
clem_ikonia, okidoki12:04
clem_many thx :)12:04
carlinuxit-linux:the thing is, it doesnt ask me to log in12:05
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carlinuxi see a message    user not known to the underlying module12:05
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carlinuxbut i'm supposed to see the log in request12:05
Innomenok how do i find that out?12:06
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D4N`private12:06
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Innomeni'm not sure if grub is looking at the right drive12:06
clem_so now I'm curious: who uses those downloads (like in OOo's or even Firefox's site)?12:06
tarelerulzI don't think any of you  should know ,but is audio out the back of the computer normal?I can see coming out the front and nice ,but not the normal. I would not thing you would need hook something up . Just install the mother board hook up hard drives dvd player and so and make sure the speaker outs are coming out the back and that is it12:06
Innomensdc312:06
it-linuxcarlinux | yes, mine have : Ubuntu 7.04 it-linux-desktop tty612:06
Innomeni got it12:06
carlinuxok12:06
ikoniaInnomen ok - so third disk12:06
Innomennow what12:06
it-linuxcarlinux | it-linux-desktop login12:06
ikoniaInnomen that makes sense12:06
ikoniaInnomen what partition is ubuntu, the 3rd one ?12:07
carlinuxit-linux: the problem is i dont see that12:07
Innomenyes12:07
Innomenthird one12:07
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Innomenpsychic lol12:07
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carlinuxit-linux: it prints error12:07
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Innomenwinxp, extended, ;inux and then limnux solaris12:07
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Innomenso says fdisk12:07
it-linuxcarlinux | it's becaome error before or after install nvidia driver?12:07
Innomenlinux sdc3 being the ubuntu install12:07
carlinuxit-linux: after12:08
ikoniaInnomen ok , lets try something in grub, are you ready to type this ?12:08
Innomenyup12:08
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ikoniaInnomen: I'll put what you type in " " - so don't type them12:08
ikoniaInnomen "sudo grub"12:08
Innomenoky12:08
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carlinuxit-linux: i tried to unistall nvidia's driver but it didnt fixed it12:08
Woetwhat app is OK to open .rar files?12:08
Innomenk12:08
ikoniaInnomen: "root (hd2,2)"12:08
ikoniaInnomen "setup (hd0)"12:08
Innomeni did that, and setup12:08
Innomenhmmm12:08
ikonia"quit"12:08
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Innomennm12:08
Innomendoing it12:08
it-linuxcarlinux | I think you have to reinstall your Ubuntu 7.04, because we have try to reconfigure xorg.conf many times.12:09
Innomendone12:09
Innomenshall i test it?12:09
ikoniaInnomen: reboot and lets take a look12:09
Innomenreboot and such?12:09
it-linuxcarlinux | before you do, back-up your files Ok?12:09
carlinuxit-linux: i reinstalled a lot of package (base) and it did nothing12:09
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carlinuxyes12:09
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Innomenwhile its doing that can you explain what you just did? here's my guess, the root trells grub where the ubuntu install is, and the setup tells it where to install its loader which is what actually generaqtes the selection menu, and you are thinking that whatever is booting first is not getting the menu, and ytou just tried ot fix that12:10
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carlinuxit-linux: my ubuntu is running correctly exepted the tty12:10
InnomenI'm trying to learn here lol12:10
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ikoniaInnomen your almost spot on. "root" tells grub where to look for the "root grub" files to be able to read the disk, such as the menu.lst and the stage1_$X files, that will get the grub menu up - then the lines in the menu.lst tell grub how to boot ubuntu12:11
Arepiehello.. how can i install a .sh file?12:11
ikoniaInnomen the "root" commands actually has nothing to do with the ubuntu install, just the grub boot files12:11
carlinuxit-linux: with the error "user not known to the underlying module" i'll try to fix the prblem12:11
ikoniaInnomen see the difference12:12
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ikoniaArepie what are you trying to install ?12:12
Innomengah same thing, "bootguard" *goes and gets the shot gun*12:12
AucklaOk explain this. I was just watching movie files on my machine, then I went to go watch some quicktime files. Now all my video no matter on what player is garbled?12:12
ikoniaInnomen ok, ok - no problem. Lets check this out12:12
Arepieikonia: crossover linux12:12
Auckla:)12:12
Innomen*pets his computer* I'm gunna ahve to put you down girl *sniffle*12:12
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ikoniaInnomen not quite yet12:12
Innomen:P :)12:12
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ikoniaInnomen in the bios can you see what he boot disk is ?12:12
it-linuxcarlinux | I have to go home now, but maybe you can send me an e-mail in : eddymulyono2007@bsiku.com, I hope we can keep in touch Ok? see you!!!12:12
carlinuxit-linux: when you do ls -al /dev/tty* what user and group do u have ?12:12
gorskiis there a program which checks cd/dvd-s for errors?12:13
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Innomenlet me make damn sure12:13
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Woetwhen i formatted ubuntu when installing, any way to get back the data?12:13
ikoniagorski search for dvd in synaptic-  there is one12:13
ikoniaWoet no12:13
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WoetOops then.12:13
Innomenfoudn a list12:13
ikoniaInnomen ok12:13
carlinuxit-linux: owner is supposed to be root and the group tty12:13
Innomenwhat are you asking?12:13
Innomenthe boot sequence is floopy cd HD12:13
ikoniaInnomen which one of your 3 disks is the harddisk listed first12:14
ikoniaie: which one will the machine boot off first12:14
Innomenprimary sata the 14012:14
ikoniaInnomen ahhhh really12:14
it-linuxcarlinux | Yap, and yours?12:14
Innomeni put the os on it cus its the fastest12:14
skinnypuppy1334Woet: next time use the partition manager to shrink your installed partition before you install and choose manual partitioning in setup and create you a new partition for linux in the freespace12:14
carlinuxit-linux: chgrp tty tty* when i reboot, the group change to to root12:14
ikoniaInnomen is that the one that is supposed to be the first device from booting from12:14
ikoniaInnomen as thats actually seen as the 3rd disk12:14
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Woeti thought there was no data on it to safe skinnypuppy133412:15
ArepieHello.. how can i install a .sh file??12:15
Innomeni know12:15
Woetbut now my boss tells me there was12:15
Woet:x12:15
Innomenits weird12:15
ikoniaArepie ./$filename12:15
Arepiecool12:15
ikoniaInnomen ok can we do another grub test ?12:15
Innomenof course12:15
Innomenit'll take a minute to boot back into the cd12:15
skinnypuppy1334Nothing to save, just so you dont trash another in the future.12:15
carlinuxit-linux: how can i change tty* group and keep setting when i reboot ?12:15
ikoniaInnomen it sounds like your bios is arguing on the order of the disks with your OS12:15
ikoniaInnomen ready for commands ?12:15
Innomenno, loading livecd12:15
ikoniaInnomen: shout when ready12:15
AucklaCan anyone explain why I can no longer watch any video's? It was working fine two seconds ago, and now the screens are all garbled. Even if I use mplayer or movie player.12:16
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Innomenoky will do12:16
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ikoniaInnomen: FYI: for your reading http://toorcon.techpathways.com/uploads/DetectingAndCollectingWholeDiskEncryptionMedia.pdf12:16
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carlinuxit-linux:12:16
carlinuxps -A | grep tty12:16
carlinux 6100 tty7     00:01:40 Xorg12:16
ikoniaInnomen: bootguard looks like its the encyption on your disks12:17
RockClimberany UK'er here bought a ubuntu dell? opinions on the value12:17
carlinuxonly tty7 is running12:17
skinnypuppy1334Auckla: is it just your quicktime files that are garbled?12:17
ikoniaRockClimber no difference in value,12:17
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Innomenneato12:17
Innomenthank you12:17
ikoniaInnomen just for future reading12:17
Aucklaskinnypuppy1334, Well at first yeah, then I went to go do a quick test with my Robot Chickens, and they will not play either. However the thumbnails all look fine.12:17
it-linuxcarlinux | theese all is always root owner, because linux have the security, can you get it?12:17
Innomenhmmm12:17
presto101can someone help me im trying to decide between ubuntu and fedora12:17
ikoniaInnomen I guess what is happening is ther is no boot sector on your primary boot disk so its trying to boot from teh boot sector on the encypted disk which is the "boot guard" message?12:18
carlinuxit-linux:yes it's normal that root is the owner12:18
magnetronpresto101: easy. choose ubuntu :)12:18
ikoniaInnomen at a guess12:18
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ikoniapresto101 try both12:18
RockClimberikonia, sorry, I meant they only offer one model, so whether the ubuntu model is good value versus getting one of the others that isn't built for ubuntu12:18
ikoniapresto101 see which one you like12:18
Innomenthat seems as good an explanation as any12:18
Innomenbetter then my thoery12:18
ikoniaRockClimber I think it's weak12:18
pablozpresto101: I used fedora12:18
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it-linuxcarlinux | mine all have root access right. And there's no group in it.12:18
Innomenthe ghost of my cat harassing me12:18
pabloz2 years ago12:18
presto101i have actually12:18
pablozI used many distors12:18
RockClimberikonia, I can't get on the site at the moment so I haven't seen the spec12:19
presto101ive got pros and cons for both12:19
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ikoniaRockClimber basic desktop12:19
pablozAnd I seen ubuntu, i loved it12:19
ikoniaRockClimber see if it meets your needs12:19
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presto101is selinux actually useful?12:19
ikoniapresto101 yes, in secure environments.12:19
ikoniapresto101 for the average user no12:19
skinnypuppy1334Auckla: might try restarting X I had problems with quicktime files before. If you don't know how to restartX just logout and login again12:19
presto101also how is virtualzation in ubuntu?12:19
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ikoniapresto101 same as every other linux12:19
stefg!virtualizers12:19
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications12:19
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RockClimberikonia, probably not. I was hoping it would get round the fact that any high spec dell always has nv or ati gfx. maybe that isn't the case these days.12:20
it-linuxcarlinux | I like to help you but I have to go home A.S.A.P , you have my e-mail, right? After all you can ask Ubotu for this session. Sorry and see you. Au revoir...12:20
carlinuxit-linux: what output do u have ls -al /dev/tty212:20
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ikoniaRockClimber nothing wrong with nvidia ;)12:20
carlinuxit-linux: ok thanks12:20
RockClimberikonia, I have no need for fancy graphics so I'm happy to have open drivers12:20
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skinnypuppy1334VmWare server is free from vmware site and works on dapper fiesty and gutsy!12:20
pablozpresto10112:20
Aucklaskinnypuppy1334, Yeah thats what I'm going to do next. I was also having a problem with azaerus(spelling) closing immiadiately upon startup, and Q3 also closing right after I connect to a multiplayer server. Well shortly after I connect that is.12:20
ikoniaRockClimber some of the dells (laptops especially) coem with the intel cards12:20
ikoniaRockClimber 2 I bought recently came with intel12:20
gaaraany of u here experienced with opengl programming?12:20
karthik_I need a help in configuring sound in ubuntu. I installed alsa,gstreamer and i m able to play songs. Problem arise when i try to jack in my headphones. The laptop speakers still play the sound even after plugging the headphone. I tried googling and got to know that its a well known issue. Tried some suggestions and updated alsa.Nothing really helped. Did anyone encounter anything like this and solved it? ??12:20
karthik_                Its a Intel HDA sound card .. I tried volume control and alsa mixer..the headphone jack sense is not available... I tried the front speakers option also.. it controls both laptop speakers as well as headphones...Laptop Model  - Sony vaio VGN-C22GH12:20
presto101the reason i asked about virtualization is because ive heard about xen with fedora12:20
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carlinux!ask | can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty212:21
ubotucan someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:21
ikoniapresto101 xen is available in ubuntu from 7.1012:21
pablozvirtualbox under ubuntu presto12:21
presto101sweet12:21
ikoniapresto101 I think it maybe in the server package for 7.0412:21
RockClimberikonia, well that's good news. I might wait for more ati news before buying my next system12:21
stefg!intelhda | karthik_12:21
ubotukarthik_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto12:21
zhanxAuckla, try deleting the .azuerus file in your home foldoer12:21
ikoniaRockClimber strap in for a 2 year wait12:21
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Aucklazhanx, Thanks will try.12:21
presto101i do like deb and synaptic better12:21
chalcedonywhat is opera called to apt-get it?12:21
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Innomenis asking if i can ask about asking a question prohibited?12:21
ikoniachalcedony search for it12:21
Innomen:)12:22
carlinuxplease, can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty212:22
zillehallo?12:22
ikoniacarlinux why ?12:22
ikoniacarlinux its created via udev12:22
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carlinuxi need to know the group of tty212:22
chalcedonyyou don't want me to go into my rant about web browsers at the moment, please12:22
ikoniacarlinux same as tty112:22
carlinuxcrw-rw---- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-10-02 05:13 /dev/tty212:22
karthik_uboto thank u..will try it12:22
presto101forgive me if this comment sounds stupid but fedora looks better to me12:22
ikoniachalcedony I didn't ask you to rant, I asked you to search for the package name12:22
zillehallllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo???????????????????????????12:22
ikoniapresto101 then see how it goes12:22
zilleyfgdf12:22
chalcedonyare there other good we browsers ?12:22
zilletuchgnh12:22
ikoniazille best way to get ignored12:22
ikoniazille well done12:22
Innomenpresto101: if they grab torches, run12:22
carlinuxsupposed to be crw-rw---- 1 root tty 4, 2 2007-10-02 05:13 /dev/tty212:22
zillejo12:23
pablozfedora is more static12:23
ikoniapabloz thats a nonsense statment12:23
chalcedonyseems like there was one .. funky monkey or something12:23
pablozubuntu s more dynamic for me , presto12:23
Innomenpresto101: its also named aftrer a hat named after a girl, thats a plus12:23
vcoolhi, im having problem with pidgin. i cant receive any files ... but i can send files to my buddies ... any one can help me ?12:23
chalcedonyikonia: where does one search ?12:23
pablozikonia: way12:23
presto101hadnt thought of that innomen but your right12:23
ikoniachalcedony in the package manager, apt or synpatic12:23
Aucklavcool, Sounds like a firewall issue.12:23
Innomen:)12:23
ikoniapabloz its off topic12:23
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vcoolno12:24
carlinuxplease, can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty212:24
vcooli dont have any firewall12:24
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ikoniacarlinux tty's are spaned with users12:24
chalcedonyi tried to look in aptitude but i have no clue how12:24
vcoolmy laptop directly connect to the internet12:24
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Innomenman this takes forever to boot12:24
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ikonia!apptitude >chalcedony12:24
ikoniacrw------- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-09-14 10:38 /dev/tty212:24
Innomenikonia: do you even recall what you wanted me to type? :P12:24
zhanxcarlinux, crw------- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-10-01 02:52 /dev/tty212:25
carlinuxikonia: do u know a lot of tty ? perhaps u can help me12:25
ikoniaInnomen totally12:25
chalcedonyubotu Sorry, I don't know anything about apptitude - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:25
Innomenamazing :)12:25
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carlinuxok12:25
carlinuxthanks12:25
ikonia!aptitude12:25
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide12:25
presto101the reason i brought up looks is that id like to do something in ubuntu to change the fonts or rendering if i could12:25
ikonia!aptitude  >chalcedony12:25
chalcedonyi repeat to search in something starting with http.. one needs the browser12:25
Innomenok, finally12:25
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Innomenready tp\o typens12:25
ikoniapresto101 you can do that in anything12:25
Innomento12:25
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ikoniachalcedony search using aptitude12:25
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ikoniaInnomen ready ?12:26
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Innomenyes12:26
vcoolhi, im having problem with pidgin. i cant receive any files ... but i can send files to my buddies ... any one can help me ?12:26
presto101is there something fedora uses or is it just fonts and art/12:26
ikoniaInnomen "sudo grub"12:26
presto101?12:26
chalcedonyikonia: with what?12:26
Innomendone12:26
ikoniaInnomen "root (hd2,2)12:26
ikoniaInnomen: " setup (hd2)"12:26
Innomendone12:26
ikoniaInnomen: "quit"12:26
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ikoniachalcedony aptitude12:26
Arepieikonia: i can't run the shell script file..12:26
ikoniaArepie what does it say12:26
chalcedonypresto101: are you in the wrong room? fedora === > #fedora12:26
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Innomenoky12:26
ikonia look ok ?12:27
Innomenreboot again?12:27
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ikoniaInnomen yup, when you are rady12:27
Innomenyea12:27
ikoniaready12:27
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Innomenno errors this time12:27
chalcedonyikonia: i do not have a working browser. i need opera or something12:27
ikoniaInnomen ok, lets see what you get12:27
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Innomenif this works you get 10$ via paypal :)12:27
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ikoniachalcedony you've told me that 3 times, and I've tod you 3 times search for a browser using the aptitude or synaptic package manager12:27
Innomenif you take tips12:27
Arepieikinia: arepie@Arepie:~/Desktop$ ./install-crossover-pro5.0.0.sh - bash: ./install-crossover-pro5.0.0.sh: No such file or directory12:27
ikoniaInnomen no need for that, just "thanks" is anotugh12:27
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ikoniaArepie you need to be in the same dir as your script12:28
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ikoniaInnomen: lets see if it fixes it first before getting excited12:28
Innomenwell i dont think it will work12:28
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Innomenmy cat is mean12:28
Arepieikonia: yes.. of course.. the file was in the desktop..12:28
tparcinaI need to downgrade from python-2.5 to python-2.4, how can I do that?12:28
Innomenoh boy look at that, bootguard12:28
ikoniaInnomen: same again12:29
Innomenloading12:29
ikoniaInnomen: ok, lets try one more test, then we can step up a gear12:29
minimecHi folks. Using Compiz-fusion I have some programs that 'slip' under the gnome-panel when I start them (typically software with 'gravity northeast'). Is there a way to avoid that?12:29
tparcinadowngrade of package, how can it be done?12:29
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ikoniatparcina what do you want to downgrade12:29
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chalcedonyikonia: i'm sorry. i'm tired and ready to cry from this browser mess. how do i uninstall lynx-cur ?12:29
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ikoniachalcedony open the package manager, search for lynx and hit uninstall12:30
chalcedonyi like lynx .. the cur turns it green12:30
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tparcinaikonia: python, from 2.5 to 2.412:30
ikoniatparcina how did you install python 2.5 ?12:30
chalcedonyit divides into categories that don't make any sense to me12:30
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Innomenbrb caffine12:30
ikoniachalcedony: read the link I sent you and it will explain it12:30
tparcinaikonia: from cli12:31
ikoniaInnomen no problem12:31
ikoniatparcina how, using apt ?12:31
tparcinaikonia: yes12:31
ikoniatparcina or from a tar file12:31
ikoniatparcina sorry which one12:31
tparcinafrom apt-get install python...12:31
chalcedonymaybe you can read a link without a browser ?12:31
ikoniatparcina thats good news, so yes, you should be able to downgrade12:31
ikoniachalcedony you have lynx12:31
tparcinaikonia: can you please tell me how?12:31
ikoniatparcina 1 moment12:32
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chalcedony   3. Package Management12:32
chalcedonySSL error:no issuer was found-Continue? (y)12:32
ikoniayes12:32
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zhanxweirdness i cant get my z600 printer to show up in the install dialog12:32
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Innomenbackl and its still booting12:33
Innomenlol12:33
chalcedonyAptitudeSurvivalGuidehttps:/help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide12:33
chalcedony   This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use12:33
chalcedony   one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a12:33
chalcedony   similar page already exists.12:33
zhanxi did the alien z600llpdk and dpkg -i on the .deb the printer detects but cant find the driver12:33
zhanx!z60012:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about z600 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:33
cow_2001i've used the deb files from http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin12:33
Innomenoky terminal up12:33
cow_2001will apt install newer versions of pidgin after that?12:34
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cow_2001or do i have to install newer versions from the repository by myself?12:34
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dgjonescow_2001, you'll need to install new versions yourself12:34
stefg!pidgin12:34
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.012:34
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IndyGunFreakthe newest version of pidgin isn't in the repository.12:35
zhanxcan any help with cups and a lexmark printer12:35
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cow_2001dgjones: will pidgin ever enter feisty's reps?12:35
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: no12:35
stefg!cups12:35
tparcinaikonia: well, can you tell me how to downgrade?12:35
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:36
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Innomeni think he/she's passed out12:36
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cow_2001okay, thank you all for helping me today and yesterday!12:36
dgjonescow_2001, no, its not included because it wasn't available when Fiesty was released12:36
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stefg!backports12:36
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging12:36
IndyGunFreakdgjones: oddly enough, i upgraded my PC and laptop to gutsy last night, and Pidgin isn't in the repos either, its still gaim.12:36
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IndyGunFreakbut pidgin is pre-installed12:37
cow_2001dgjones: repositories never get newer software after their official release?12:37
dgjonescow_2001, no, generally only bug fixes12:37
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Innomenthats smart12:37
cow_2001dgjones: so it won't break everything else, right?12:37
Innomenif it aint broke dont fix it12:37
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: just compile pidgin from souce, its not hard.12:37
Innomenif ytou want the cutting edge go be beta12:37
Innomeni like that logic12:38
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: i've installed using the deb files linked from the wiki12:38
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: what wiki is that?12:38
dgjonesIndyGunFreak, interesting, maybe the repo's are still being updated12:38
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin12:38
IndyGunFreakdgjones: possibly, i found it wierd also.12:38
cow_2001err... sorry12:38
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cow_2001https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.012:38
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: that version has a security flaw.12:38
IndyGunFreakif you use MSN12:39
IndyGunFreakhttp://www.pidgin.im12:39
cow_20012.1.1?12:39
dgjonesIndyGunFreak, isn't that the flaw - using MSN :)12:39
IndyGunFreakno, 2.2.012:39
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IndyGunFreakdgjones: lol, no argument from me...lol12:39
cow_2001oooh, doodie!12:39
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: thats why i was saying, compile it from source12:39
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dgjonesIndyGunFreak, glad you mentioned that, I'll have to check which versions i'm running at home & upgrade12:40
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: okay. i should follow the instructions in pidgin.im, right?12:40
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IndyGunFreakdgjones: yeah, i was doing something ysterday, and happened to look at pidgin's website while doing all that upgrading, and saw the security alert12:40
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IndyGunFreakcow_2001: well, you'll have to resolve a bunch of dependencies12:40
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IndyGunFreakcow_2001: its easy though, go to pidgin.im, and download the tarball.12:41
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Le^statwhere do i find a clean sources list for feisty?12:41
cow_2001someone linked me to some web page, but the logging wasnt on so i don't have it here12:41
shaunanyone here got compiz working with ati gfx on 7.10beta?12:41
stefg!easysource | Le^stat12:41
ubotuLe^stat: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:41
ikonia_sorry, my connection dropped12:41
Innomencan i make this thing beep when my name is used?12:41
Le^statty12:41
Innomenno worries12:41
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: I don' know... its easy t comnpile, i'll tell you how to do it.12:41
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: how do i figure out how to resolve the dep hell?12:41
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: i'll tell you12:42
IndyGunFreakgo download the tarball12:42
cow_2001thanks12:42
Innomenikonia: its up12:42
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WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.12:42
Innomen"type sudo justworkdammit"12:42
IndyGunFreaksudo apt-get me a cup of coffee12:42
ikonia_Innomen ok, last test before we have to get a bit more seroius12:43
ikonia_Innomen: "sudo grub"12:43
ikonia_Innomen: "root (hd2,2)"12:43
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ikonia_Innomen: "setup (hd1)"12:43
ikonia_Innomen: "quit"12:43
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Innomenrebooting12:44
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ikonia_Innomen: I don't expect this to work12:44
Innomenme either12:44
Innomen:P12:44
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Innomenwe're cynical12:44
ikonia_Innomen got to test though12:44
Innomeni hear ya12:44
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: should i uninstall 2.1.1? apt-get remove pidgin12:44
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: not necessary12:45
ikonia_Innomen I expected setup (hd0) or setup (hd2) to work12:45
Innomenok that gave us the grub menu12:45
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ikonia_Innomen no way !12:45
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: shouldn't be, if you want to you can12:45
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.12:45
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Innomenbut when i choose any ubuntu option i get "no such partition"12:45
Innomen"error 22"12:45
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: what happens after i install with the source and install a new version of pidgin using the rep?12:45
ikonia_Innomen thats ok - thats your men.lst being borked12:45
Innomenand when i pick xp12:45
ikonia_Innomen thats easy to fix12:45
Innomensweet12:45
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ikonia_Innomen you may want to make a note of these settings though12:46
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: you'll have all the dependencies resolved, and it will take about 10min to recompile..12:46
ikonia_Innomen: ready12:46
Innomen*carves little statues of iknoia*12:46
ikonia_Innomen your bios boot order is borked12:46
ikonia_Innomen /dev/sda = (hd1) /dev/sdb (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd2)12:46
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ikonia_Innomen: and your boot device is sdb12:46
ikonia_oor12:46
ikonia_sda12:46
ikonia_oops12:46
ikonia_sda12:46
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cow_2001IndyGunFreak: i mean, what will happen to all the files from the source? it wouldn't erase all the unnecessary files that the rep package don't use12:46
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Innomeni log all of this but i pasted notes12:47
ikonia_ok , worth knowing12:47
Innomenso what do i do now?12:47
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: no, when you download the new source code, you compile it, then delete the old source code folder12:47
ikonia_Innomen this is why ubuntu is giving problems, your bios boot order is nuts12:47
ikonia_Innomen boot the livecd and lets fix your menu.lst12:47
Innomenyea i had alot of problems putting that drive in there12:47
Innomenoky12:47
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: you don't understand me12:47
IndyGunFreakapparently.12:47
Innomeni do12:48
Innomeni understand indy gun freak12:48
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cow_2001IndyGunFreak: what happens later after i've used the source package happily and want a package from the repo12:48
Innomenguns are like freedom12:48
IndyGunFreaki'm difficult to understand at times.12:48
Innomenoh wait yur not talking about that12:48
DjVipercow_2001: did you install pidgin 2.2.* from repo?12:48
Innomen:)12:48
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: just install it.12:48
cow_2001DjViper: i wish. feisty doesn't have it12:48
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: don't get super excited, neither does gutsy, for whatever reason12:49
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cow_2001IndyGunFreak: i've decompressed it in root12:49
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: /root/pidgin-2.1.112:49
IndyGunFreakyou don't need to decompress it in root.. but ok..12:49
Innomenso you think we can fix this ikonia?12:49
DjVipercow_2001: you can find it in this repo: http://repository.debuntu.org/12:50
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: why did you do that/.. just put it in your home flder.12:50
Innomenreassure me while its booting lol12:50
InnomenIz a scareded *sniffle*12:50
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IndyGunFreakDjViper: thats 2.2.0, it has a security flaw.12:50
ikoniaInnomen it will be fine12:50
Innomenyay!12:50
Innomen:P12:50
ikonialet me just close my duplicate connection12:50
cjae_how do I leave email messages on my isp's server? or can I so I can access them from other email clients12:50
DjViperIndyGunFreak: hmm?12:50
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: anyways, put the source code in your home folder.12:50
Innomenhave fun12:51
IndyGunFreakDjViper: http://www.pidgin.im12:51
cow_2001why?12:51
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.12:51
IndyGunFreakwell, as long as you know hwo to cd into the directory where the source is, i don't care whre it is, i'm jus tnot spending 10min telling you how to cd12:51
ikoniaok12:51
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cow_2001IndyGunFreak: i've already cded12:51
Innomenok its up12:51
IndyGunFreakok, putting the cart before the horse, but ok.12:52
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IndyGunFreakopen a terminal, and type this w/o quotes... "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim"12:52
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IndyGunFreakits gonna want to install a ton of crap12:52
Innomenwhats sudo mean?12:52
IndyGunFreak!sudo12:52
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:52
SpiderPigsuper user12:52
Innomenahhh12:52
Innomenthanky12:52
SpiderPigrootbeer12:53
cow_2001super user do12:53
Innomen!rootbeer12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rootbeer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:53
Innomenheheheh12:53
SpiderPiglol :D12:53
cow_2001i love root beer.12:53
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SpiderPigindeed12:53
SpiderPigi love it also + dr pepper12:53
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: are all those dependencies installing?12:53
cjae_rootbeer is hard to make flat12:53
Innomen!being_sexy12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about being_sexy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:53
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: yep12:53
IndyGunFreakok12:54
Innomensorry12:54
Innomeni wont do it anymore12:54
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overcluckersu is substitute user12:54
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ikoniaoverclucker "switch user"12:54
pabloz!he he he12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about he he he - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:54
cow_2001i hope the newer version of grub will enter soon12:54
ikonia!botabuse >pabloz12:54
Innomenoh it takes spaces!12:54
SpiderPigsudo is a way to keep idiots away from destroying their own system with root privilages12:54
ikoniaInnomen it doesn't12:54
Innomeni wasnt willing to risk it12:54
cow_2001and the gui that sets it12:54
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: once its done, cd to the source directory, run ./configure, then when thats done, make, then when thats done, sudo make install12:54
Innomenahhh12:54
Innomenhidden goodness12:55
Innomenanyway12:55
kiss_kill_hehe12:55
Innomenwhat now12:55
pabloz!bootabuse > pabloz | grep "nice"12:55
Innomenterminal is up12:55
overcluckerikonia: really? i'll hace to rereead the man12:55
ikoniaoverclucker yup12:55
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IndyGunFreakikonia: have you bothered upgrading to feisty12:56
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.12:56
IndyGunFreaki mean gutsy, sorry, long morning12:56
ikoniagusty12:56
ikoniaIndyGunFreak I have 2 test machiens running it12:56
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IndyGunFreakseems to work well.12:57
ikoniaIndyGunFreak my workstation is still on feisty12:57
Innomen:)12:57
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IndyGunFreak*work*?..lol12:57
Innomenthe names are cutre12:57
Innomencute12:57
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ikoniaIndyGunFreak yes, lots of pro's a few minor niggles and very few critical stuff12:57
ikoniaIndyGunFreak I've been pleased with its progress comopared to how fesity went12:57
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cow_2001would you call gutsy is stable-ish?12:57
Innomenam i supposed to be doing something?12:57
ikoniacow_2001 no12:57
ikoniaInnomen yeah, is your livecd booted ?12:58
Innomenyes12:58
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IndyGunFreakikonia: i have one minor issue with Gutsy i can't figure out, although i've not had much time to put into it.. I have dual displays, and whenever i do something that requires root, the place to put the password is exactly between the two monitors, can't figure out how to move it.12:58
cow_2001so it crashes every few mins?12:58
ikoniaInnomen: ok - first thing "sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt"12:58
ikoniaIndyGunFreak nudge me when I get home and I'll show you how to fix that, its a problem with the nvidia drivers, had it in gusty12:58
ikoniaIndyGunFreak silly hidden option that fixes that12:58
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Innomenoky12:59
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Innomendidnt say anything12:59
Innomeni assume it did it12:59
pablozPaganini The Hunt ' Op.1/9  AND ubuntu is cool12:59
livingdaylightHola Ubunteros!12:59
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IndyGunFreakikonia: hmmm ok.. i'll get with you on that, thats the only problem i've had thus far, not really a problem, etc.12:59
ikoniaInnomen lets find out. "ls -la /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst"12:59
Innomenhola! como esta?12:59
Innomen:P12:59
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.12:59
Innomendont know spanish so dont start12:59
ikoniaIndyGunFreak nudge me - 5 hours and I'll be home12:59
IndyGunFreaklol, ok01:00
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Innomenoky it gave me a list01:00
WoetI cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.01:00
Innomenshall i type it?01:00
ikoniaInnomen perfect01:00
livingdaylightI want to upgrade my distro to GutsyMel...01:00
ikoniaInnomen be good if you can show it me in the pastbin01:00
ikonialivingdaylightlivingdaylight gsutymel ?01:00
Innomeni cant cut and paste01:00
livingdaylightdo i sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?01:00
Innomendiffrent mqachine01:00
ikoniaInnomen what a pain01:00
Innomeni'll trype01:00
Innomenno biggie01:00
ikoniaInnomen great, stick it in a pastebin01:00
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WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.01:01
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ikoniaWoet stop asking every minute01:01
Innomen-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4512 2007-10-02 04:45 /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst01:01
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predaeusWoet, can't you just kill that process, instead of rebooting?01:02
pablozWoet likes clicks on the  right upper corner01:02
ikoniaInnomen ok, I'm going to have to work in the dark on this so you'll have to be my eyes01:02
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Innomen*cleans glaqsses*01:02
Innomenready01:02
Innomen:)01:02
WoetHow do i kill a process?01:02
ikoniaInnomen open /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst in a text editor with sudo01:02
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WoetAnd why cant i adjust my time ? :-/01:02
Innomenoky01:02
kstWoet ps -A | grep <name> shows you the number01:03
pablozwoet: first you must lists the proceses01:03
kstthen you can do kill <number>01:03
Woeti just want to adjust my time on ubuntu01:03
Woet:-/01:03
livingdaylightcan i do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?01:03
ikoniayes01:03
Innomengawd01:04
Innomennewb01:04
ScareyWoet: System > Administration > System Monitor is also an option.01:04
Innomenhow do i do that?01:04
Woeti just want to adjust my time on ubuntu01:04
IndyGunFreaklivingdaylight: there's still some minor bugs though.. unless you love messing things up, ight be wise to wait a few.01:04
ikoniaInnomen do what ?01:04
predaeusWoet, are you on Feisty or already on Gutsy?01:04
Innomenopen the file "with sudo"01:04
WoetFeisty01:04
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livingdaylightIndyGunFreak, i don't mind minor bugs... i hear Gutsy is pretty ready for my desktop now01:04
ikoniaInnomen Innomen in a teminal do "sudo $editor_name /mnt/boor/grub/menu.lst"01:04
predaeusWoet, hm, then I don't know. Maybe scan launchpad for bug reports, or file on yourself.01:04
IndyGunFreaklivingdaylight: thus far, with the exeption of a couple minor things, is been fine for me.01:04
ikonialivingdaylight still in beta01:04
Innomenoky01:04
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IndyGunFreakbut it is STILL beta01:05
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livingdaylightwhat comes after beta?01:05
Woetit has worked 1 time, but now it doesnt anymore01:05
Woet:<01:05
IndyGunFreakfinal release01:05
IndyGunFreaklol01:05
ikonialivingdaylight release candidates, or straight to final01:05
livingdaylightIndyGunFreak, what is the worst i can expect?01:05
ikonialivingdaylight depends on your needs/setup/config01:05
predaeusWoet, you can also change date with the "date" command at the command line interface I think.01:05
ikonialivingdaylight it may not work at ll01:05
IndyGunFreaklivingdaylight: depends on your pc i guess.01:05
ikoniaInnomen: say when you are ready01:05
Woeti want it to enable synching with the internet predaeus01:05
Innomenits not working01:05
ikoniaInnomen what is the problem01:06
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Innomen$editor_name ?01:06
predaeusWoet, ah. Sorry I don't know how to do that by hand.01:06
ikoniaInnomen: replace that with the editor you want to use, nano/vi/emavs01:06
Innomeni ttyped that, nothing and then tried text editor cus thats what its called lol01:06
ikoniaetc01:06
Innomenwhich one is default lol01:06
Cinsince i did an upgrade a few days ago to the latest kernel, amarok started freezing for ages when doing things01:06
IndyGunFreakikonia: i found the issue with the password thing.. it was an odd setting in my nvidia-settings... reset it and it works fien now.01:06
ikoniaInnomen: do "sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst01:06
Cinanyone else experienced this since their last updated?01:06
ikoniaIndyGunFreak how od01:06
punzadayeah use nano, nano is most likely the most user friendly01:06
Cins/udpated/update01:06
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punzadavi is freaking evil even when you know it well ;/ lol01:07
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Innomenoky its open01:07
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IndyGunFreakikonia: yeah, it had my second monitor resolution set to "auto", and my first to 1280x1024.. i guess with it being auto, it kept putting crap right in the middle of the two monitors.01:07
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ikoniaInnomen ok - go down to the bottom, and scroll up until you see title "ubuntu"01:07
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IndyGunFreakso i switched the second monitor to 1280x1024, and its fine.01:07
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ikoniaIndyGunFreak fantastic01:07
vinboyis there any gadgets for linux?   such as the windows sidebar or yahoo widgets or google gadgets01:07
Innomeni see them01:08
ikoniaIndyGunFreak there is an nvidia option that sets one of the two displays as primary and always launches on the primary01:08
IndyGunFreakit did wonk up my panels along the top though..lol, thats an easy fix though01:08
Innomennormal recovery m,ode and memtest01:08
ikoniaIndyGunFreak there is another option that is launch on active, so where ever your mouse is it luanches01:08
ikonia                      an easy fix though01:08
ikoniaoops01:08
IndyGunFreakgnn,01:08
ikoniaInnomen ok - they are not commented out with "#" are they ?01:08
IndyGunFreakhmm, i'll lok around for that.01:08
Innomenno01:08
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ikoniaInnomen great01:09
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chopchop_I got a problem getting the sound works with ubuntu 7.10 . Im using a Dell Vostro 1500 laptop, does any1 have experienced with this laptop?01:09
ikoniaInnomen so as you can see each has a "root" line, yes ?01:09
Innomenyea 2,201:09
Innomenfor all three01:09
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ikoniaInnomen perfect01:09
ikoniaInnomen so you should also see a "root=$something" line01:09
dgjones!gutsy | chopchop_, Ubuntu 7.10 is supported in #ubuntu+101:09
ubotuchopchop_, Ubuntu 7.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+101:09
Innomenno "="01:10
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.01:10
ikoniaInnomen 1 moment01:10
Innomen"root tab tab tab (hd2,2)"01:10
chopchop_thx01:10
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ikoniaInnomen: do you see the kernel line for each item ?01:11
ikoniaInnomen kernel blah blah root=$blah01:11
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Innomenyes01:11
ikoniaInnomen ok - what is the root line, /dev/sda or a load of random 342342jfskj2342k34j201:11
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Innomenlong string01:11
Innomenno slashes01:11
ikoniaInnomen so it says UUID=$34534oi3u5kjehlkjhe01:12
ikoniasomething like that01:12
Innomenyes01:12
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ikoniaInnomen: ok, I have to go in a minute for 30 minutes, so pay attention to this bit01:12
ikoniaInnomen ready ?01:12
Innomenwill do01:12
Innomenrdy01:12
ikoniaInnomen so your ubuntu file system is on /dev/sdc3 - correct01:12
Innomenyes01:12
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reverie!e100001:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about e1000 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:13
ikoniaInnomen you need to open another windows and do "sudo blkid" and in the output look for /dev/sdc3 - you'll get a UUID=348723i42734 line, change the line in the other grub windows to match the uid from the output of "blkid"01:13
ikoniaInnomen: does that make sense01:13
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Innomenyes01:13
ikoniaInnomen if it goes wrong, I'll be back in 30 minutes01:13
Innomen!blkid01:13
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:13
Innomenokyt01:13
Innomencya soon thanx01:13
ikoniaInnomen but thats all you need to do, make sure the uuid matches the entry in grub01:14
Innomenoky01:14
ikoniaInnomen for the right disk, which in your case is /dev/sdc301:14
ikoniaback in 3001:14
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: did you manage to get all that compiled?01:14
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vmlinuz1gu01:14
vmlinuz1*hi01:15
heguruInnomen: I am here to help you match the UUID while ikonia is away :)01:15
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vmlinuz1anybody knows why i have this problem with touchpad? http://rafb.net/p/plCRSB91.html01:15
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heguruInnomen: in case you need any help that is01:15
kattihow did i get my correct horiz and vert freq? I've tryed xresprobe nv but the freq field is empty01:16
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heguruInnomen: though somehow i think the UUID's will already be the same01:16
reverieHi guys01:16
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Innomenthey are01:16
reverieuhm, I have a problem with th e1000 kernel module01:16
reverieits working01:16
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reverieyet i get incredibly slow transfers over samba01:17
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Innomenthe uuids are already macthed01:17
reverielike 250mbit/s01:17
heguruInnomen: just as I thought01:17
reverieer i mean 50mbit/s01:17
Innomenits my cats ghost i'm telling you01:17
Innomenshe's mad because i wouldent let her pee in my room01:17
Innomen:P01:17
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reverieInnomen, lol, my ex-cat is driving a tank in kitty heaven01:18
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reverieat least that's what I tell myself01:18
reverieshe got hit by a car01:18
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Innomen:/01:18
Innomenmine went awol01:18
Innomenmia presumed dead01:18
reveriebut I got a cool pic of her, so I'm going to make her a lolcat :)01:18
Innomenshe was 13.501:18
reveriesince she was hiding in the mailbox01:18
Innomenin human years01:18
reveriea real mailbox, mind you01:18
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Innomennice lol01:19
Pici!ot01:19
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:19
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reverie56min to copy a 10gb file over 100mbit ethernet.. riiiight01:19
reveriesigh01:19
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Innomenpici: $%^& me, i've been on topic for like 4 hours now, i can make a diversion while waiting for an on topic responce01:19
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Innomensome people01:19
Innomensheesh01:19
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: Hurrah! pidgin-2.2.101:19
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IndyGunFreakcow_2001: told you it wasn't hard.01:20
zhanxyea got my printer working... now time for a backup01:20
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: now, when 2.2.x comes out, simply compile the new source, and delete the old source01:20
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: is it all in /usr/local?01:20
Innomenhegurru: better hurry up, pici is getting snippy, gotta get back on topic01:20
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: i've never really investiated whre it installs, sorry.01:20
zhanx!backup01:20
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:20
hegur1Innomen: lols, well i am thinking what could be the problem01:20
Innomeni was just gunna patneitnly wait until you were ready01:20
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: i dislike source installation because it wastes a lot of time to update every source package i've installed01:21
Innomen:)01:21
phatfishThe current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?01:21
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Innomenits xp01:21
IndyGunFreakcow_2001: true, but when the old version you're using ha bugs, security flaws, or lacks features you need, what choice do you have/01:21
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: unless it's done with source deb files from the repo... or gentoo01:21
hegur1and that i am doing for past few hours as different people try to help you01:21
cow_2001IndyGunFreak: true.01:21
Innomeni'm gunna have to move it off, wipe the drive, install ubuntu and then move it back01:21
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Innomenthing is i dont own a drive big enough01:22
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Innomeni could wipe the backup of the 30001:22
hegur1Innomen: i don't thing its XP01:22
Innomenbut as sure as i'm sitting here, thats when the first one would fail01:22
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reveriecan a reiserfs be resized ?01:22
cow_2001Innomen: yarr! this is pirateeeeeee!01:22
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kattiis there a way to get the livecd xorg.conf01:22
Innomenyarrr i be no pirate, i'm a ninja01:23
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cow_2001Innomen: you've ninjad 300 from a torrent?01:23
reveriepirates are stinky, drunk slobs!01:23
Breezywhat is the easiest way to find out what version of ubuntu is running?  The System...About  doesn't seem to do the trick like I espected..01:23
cow_2001Innomen: that doesn't sound good01:23
cow_2001reverie: agreed.01:23
Innomenno but i saw a great youtube where the guy screamed "this is CAKE TOWN"01:24
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Innomensorry off tipic01:24
varkaBreezy: lsb_release -a01:24
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Breezyvarka: Thanks...01:24
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way2coolhey all01:25
cow_2001okay, i'm off. thank you very much, IndyGunFreak!01:25
heguruInnomen: ok one thing, have to tried booting into the LIVECD and then from the boot menu select the last option (Boot from First Hard Disk)01:25
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IndyGunFreakcow_2001: np, good night/morning01:25
Innomenheburu been doing that the whole time to avoid ahveing to take the cd in and out01:25
Innomeni very lazy01:25
heguruInnomen: ahaan01:26
Innomennotice i said i instead of i'm01:26
cow_200113:25 GMT+201:26
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cow_2001good after noon :)01:26
Innomenfrom the grub menu you can point it to various drives01:26
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Jack_Sparrowkatti: It is easy enough to reconfigure the one you have..01:26
IndyGunFreakwonder when medibuntu will have a gutsy repo.01:26
Innomenthey either dont exist or nothing happens01:26
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Breezyokay...is there an ubuntu tool to modify your boot loader menu items?01:26
switchonhey01:26
heguruInnomen: I had a situation on one machine which would ONLY boot if I select boot from first hard disk off the LiveCD Menu!01:26
switchonhier sind aba viele leute01:26
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switchonspricht i-wer deutsch01:26
Innomenbreezy: if you find it, i want it01:26
switchoney leute01:27
switchonignoriert mich doch net01:27
Innomenheguru: thats creepy01:27
kstswitchon yes, but stick to english please01:27
Innomendont say things like that01:27
way2coolim at work right now, and my box is connected at home. however I got the IP from my ISP, trying to ssh it, with no luck. my isp said that its connected at home.01:27
switchonok ok01:27
way2coolanything i can do?01:27
switchonme is booring01:27
switchonwhat should i do?01:27
kstyeah, you're boring :D01:27
Innomenlol01:27
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switchonway2cool: yes you can enterain me01:27
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heguruInnomen: luckily that machine's hard disk failed soon and i replaced it with another machine with *sane* bios :D01:27
Innomenswitchon: i've been trying to answer that one for myself for years01:28
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Innomenheheh01:28
phead!tell me about aptitude01:28
switchonlol01:28
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Innomenbrb01:28
switchondo you know www.google.de01:28
IndyGunFreakdoes anyone know what ubuntu 8.04 is gonna be codenamed?01:28
switchonor google.com01:28
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switchona very good page01:28
dgjones!hardy | IndyGunFreak01:28
switchon^^01:28
ubotuIndyGunFreak: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron01:28
switchontry www.google.com01:28
IndyGunFreakoh geez, that is a ridiculous name...lol01:28
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Innomenback01:29
IndyGunFreakhardy heron, and to think thats gonna be LTS...lol, three years of that name01:29
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kattiJack_Sparrow: sure but my current conf is ignoring my Modes and the settings should be correct.01:29
way2coolswitchon, how01:29
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Jack_Sparrowkatti: If it is ignoring your modes.. you dont have it setup right01:29
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switchonway2cool: tell me a funny story^^01:30
IndyGunFreakthey probably sholud have just reinvented hoary hedgehog...lol01:30
Breezyokay...for some reason I  booted with one of the low-latency kernels from the boot menu and my X server always seems to fail.  Is there anything special one has to do to get that running?  Is there a low-latency configuration for the X?01:30
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heguruInnomen: did you try updating your BIOS to the latest?01:30
switchonway2cool: do you have ICQ?01:30
Innomenyea, i keep it up to date01:30
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switchonfuck you, nobody is interested in that01:30
Jack_Sparrowkatti: It usually is not the video card driver but the monitor settings, refresh rates etc..01:30
heguru!ohmy | switchon01:30
switchonsorry, but someone have to say it anytime01:30
ubotuswitchon: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.01:30
Innomenlol01:31
Jack_Sparrowswitchon: watch the language please01:31
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switchonyes yes01:31
Innomenswitcon is a hata01:31
switchonbe cool01:31
Innomeni like that01:31
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switchondito^^01:31
Innomen:)01:31
switchonlets talk about something else than ubuntu01:31
Innomenlol01:31
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Innomenthye dont like that01:31
switchon24 hours ubuntu is booring01:31
stdin!topic01:31
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic01:31
Innomeni been scolded already01:31
IndyGunFreak!offtopic | switchon01:31
ubotuswitchon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:31
Jack_SparrowDOnt try it guys01:32
Innomentold ya01:32
enkravHi, I have Breezy with an italian keyboard setup, but my sister has to practise typing with a german layout, I'd like a simple command that changes the layout... (I tried loadkeys in console but the font does not properly display german special characters)01:32
enkravyou know of any?01:32
Innomenok if this just never works can i uninstall ubuntu?01:32
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IndyGunFreakenkrav: lol, why breezy?... Badger has been put to sleep01:32
zhanx!backup01:32
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:32
Innomenis it just a simple matter of dleteing the parition?01:32
heguruInnomen: yeah you can, by booting into XP recovery console (off the XP CD) and running fixmbr01:33
switchonyou all are booring01:33
heguruInnomen: that will remove the grub menu01:33
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Innomenpeaches01:33
Breezy...forgot there was version with that name :-)01:33
kattiJack_Sparrow: Jep. And there is the problem. The crt monitor is old and unknown. And I've lost (of course) the spec. So I tryed tools like xresprobe nv, but the ?correct? freq field is empty. So I use generic horz vert spec01:33
switchonlets talk about PC Games01:33
Innomeni'll do that later if i have too01:33
heguruInnomen: partitions you can then delete from within windows01:33
Innomenjust askin01:33
Jack_Sparrowenkrav: breezy has reached eol and no longer gets security updates... move up to dapper..at least01:33
switchondo you know manhunt?01:33
stdinswitchon: stay on topic or leave01:33
switchonstdin: shut up01:33
stdinno :)01:33
IndyGunFreakInnomen: seems the biggest problem(if you're a windows user), is you have to format the mbr back to where windows can read it.01:33
cjae_how do I import perfs.js from thunderbird to opera01:33
switchon^^01:33
jrib!offtopic | switchon01:33
ubotuswitchon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:33
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enkravI'm not gonna take advices from a madman such as Jack_Sparrow01:34
Jack_Sparrowkatti: then you know the problem.  MEss around too much and you will fry the old crt01:34
enkrav;)01:34
Jack_Sparrow.01:34
Innomenright on01:34
jribswitchon: and please treat everyone in this room with some respect01:34
IndyGunFreakInnomen: i usually boot my xp disk, run fixmbr and fixboot.. and all goes well.01:34
Innomenwell does anyone have any idea what could be going on?01:34
jrib!guidelines > switchon (read the private message from ubotu)01:34
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: whats your problem again?01:34
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switchonok ok01:34
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kattiJack_Sparrow: so the advice is ..? :)01:35
Jack_Sparrow!eol > enkrav01:35
cjae_it seems that opera cannot see ubuntus hidden ~ files01:35
Innomengrub says parition missing whenever i select a ubuntu option, despit the uuids matching in the menu.lst file01:35
way2coolswitchon, how01:35
Davo_Dinkumfor some reason my samsung SGH-D600 wont detect my Orange Micro bluetooth adapter, but my t610 detects it. why would this happen?01:35
switchonway2cool: tell me a funny story01:35
Innomenits like they are mislabled01:35
Jack_Sparrowkatti: find the specs on your monitor and set it up right to get the res you want.... before you fry your crt01:35
switchonis here no mod or admin?01:36
Innomenbut even if i try to trick it it says either not there or wrong parition01:36
dgjonesInnomen, don't rush things, shouldn't be long before Ikonia's back to finish off helping you solve the problem, seems like he's gone a fair way in getting you through it01:36
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Jack_Sparrowkatti: If you have searched every corner of the www for your monitor specs and cant find any...  it is time for a new monitor01:36
switchony01:36
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switchona01:36
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heguruInnomen: can you try this: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=~/mbr bs=1024 count=102401:36
IndyGunFreakhmm, i'm not much on grub...so i dout i'll be much help01:36
switchonno01:36
switchonno01:36
switchonno01:36
switchonno01:36
way2coolswitchon, one day i was walking by a villege. then something hit me in a place that we can't speak of.01:36
stdin!ops | switchon01:36
ubotuswitchon: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici01:36
Innomenswitchon i love people like you, i was you when i was 15, rules are bad if never challenged, and you'll learn about bureaucracy01:36
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carlinux!ask | does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?01:36
dgjones!ops | switch01:36
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ubotudoes someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:36
ubotuswitch: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici01:36
way2coolswitchon, seriously tho, I'm at work and i want to connect to my ubuntu pc at home.01:37
stdinok, ops were too quick :)01:37
jribargh he made me drop dvorak to kick him -.-01:37
Davo_Dinkum!bluetooth01:37
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup01:37
dgjonesthanks jrib01:37
IndyGunFreakstdin: tere was like 3 of them telling him to relax..lol01:37
vmlinuz1how can i add kernel option in  ubuntu???01:37
Davo_Dinkum!samsung01:37
stdinIndyGunFreak: trolls don't relax ;)01:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:37
Innomenwhat will that do?01:37
IndyGunFreaknot generally01:37
Davo_Dinkum!sony ericsson01:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sony ericsson - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:37
Innomentrolls only look stressed01:37
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heguruInnomen: thats gonna dump the first 1MB of your hard to a file called mbr01:38
way2coolanything i can do?01:38
Innomeni laughed constantly when i trolled01:38
way2coolim at work right now, and my box is connected at home. however I got the IP from my ISP, trying to ssh it, with no luck. my isp said that its connected at home.01:38
IndyGunFreakvmlinuz1: are you wanting to compile a new kernel... if you update your kernel, there should be an entry in grub for it.01:38
Netw0rkerhi ,01:38
heguruInnomen: i wanna check if the right disk has the mbr or not01:38
Innomenheguru: sound dangerous01:38
Innomenoky01:38
way2coolIndyGunFreak???01:38
Innomenhold on01:38
Pepperyway2cool: Have you port forwarded?01:38
vmlinuz1IndyGunFreak: no, i just have to add acpi=off01:38
way2coolIndyGunFreak is a bot?01:38
Pepperyon your modem/router?01:38
IndyGunFreakno i'm not a bot, i'm a gunfreak01:38
Netw0rkerhello, do you know how to manage network-manager to remove wireless connexion that i don't want him to connect automicaly ?? Thanks01:38
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heguruInnomen: no don't worry :) as long as you don't replace if with of its safe :)01:38
way2coolvmlinuz1!! thats my nick..01:39
way2coolvmlinuz1, why ur using my nickname?01:39
kattiJack_Sparrow: If there is no money ... But I'm searchin' again. There must be a spec ... somewhere01:39
vmlinuz1way2cool: i don't know :D01:39
way2coolPeppery, I guess so. but i'll check now heh.01:39
Pepperyway2cool: Have you port forwarded on your modem/router?01:39
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Pepperyah01:39
way2coolvmlinuz1, it is mine dude. but have fun01:39
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way2coolPeppery, I guess so.. yes01:39
way2coolport 2201:39
IndyGunFreakvmlinuz1: so you just want to make it where the current kernel just loads with acpi off?01:39
Pepperyway2cool: /nickserv help01:39
way2coolbut im at work now, i cant check to make sure :(01:39
Jack_Sparrowheguru: You might want to reduce the size of that file.... to 446  as in..  dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.backup bs=446 count=1   get the mbr without touching the partition table01:39
vmlinuz2IndyGunFreak: yeah01:39
way2coolPeppery???01:40
Innomenoky01:40
Innomenits dumped01:40
heguruJack_Sparrow: shouldn't matter, i just need to check the first few bytes01:40
Pepperyway2cool: If it's your nick, then you can reclaim it with nickserv01:40
heguruInnomen: you are on liveCD right?01:40
IndyGunFreakvmlinuz2: ok.. i'm not 100% sure how to do that, but its should be a simple edit.01:40
Innomentroo late 1024 it was01:40
heguruInnomen: i don't know if it has hexdump01:40
Innomenyes01:40
heguruInnomen: or hexedit01:40
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vmlinuz2IndyGunFreak: bootloader conf file?01:40
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way2coolPeppery, come on, i wasnt even serious. it is my nick but its fine by me to someone use it. now my problem is the pc.. lets talk about my pc01:40
Jack_Sparrowheguru: I have people save that all the time for when they reinstall windows01:40
zhanx!cloning01:40
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate01:40
heguruInnomen: but try hexdump ~/mbr01:40
IndyGunFreakor menu.lst..01:40
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Innomeni seriously doubt it01:41
zhanx!automate01:41
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning01:41
heguruInnomen: or better try hexedit ~/mbr01:41
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heguruInnomen: you are only working on the file you created, don't worry01:41
way2coolInnomen hi, join #ubuntu-offtopic i want to chat with u01:41
ratpoisonproper channel for distro-talk?01:42
Innomenhex dump worked hex edit did not01:42
zhanxok mind is fried. what is the easy way to copy the whole hd to a usb drive and the set it bootable so i can swap to a larger drive01:42
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heguruInnomen: then do hexdump -C ~/mbr | less01:42
Jack_Sparrowheguru: Here is another tool I find useful      sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt01:42
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coderit seems ubuntu does not like crontab for users by default01:43
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Innomenoky01:43
heguruJack_Sparrow: he's been through all that, ask him :)01:43
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Jack_Sparrow!backup > zhanx:01:43
jxxxtI have a prob with my memory. 512meg is reported as 309 of which 304 is in use leaving 4 to run system which of course it does not any help please?01:43
way2coolInnomen, I think my private msgs won't show for you. im unregistered.01:43
IndyGunFreakvmlinuz2: look at jjf's post...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128505&page=201:43
Innomenoh01:43
Innomenoky hold on01:43
Jack_Sparrowheguru: I am sure you are doing fine..01:44
doppelgaengerHi01:44
Innomeni did the | less thing01:44
jribcoder: it does, do: crontab -e01:44
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heguruInnomen: ok now do you see something like: |.H....LILO...6.D01:44
Innomeni have huge list of numbers01:44
doppelgaengerDoes anyone know when 7.10 stable will come out ?01:44
zhanxJack_Sparrow,  done that not ready what i am looking for.01:44
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IndyGunFreakdoppelgaenger: 18th i do belive01:44
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jribdoppelgaenger: around the 18th01:44
heguruheguru: on the first line01:44
Innomenwhat i'm seeing can only be described as orderly garbage01:44
Slartjxxxt: you have one stick with 512 MB memory? or 2x256? something else?01:44
Jack_Sparrowzhanx: actually, if you read it.. the dd command will do exactly what you want to do01:44
doppelgaengerjrib, many thanks01:44
zhanxmore like looking a cp * from / to /media/hda5 and a way to copy system like sys A:01:44
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Innomen353 h 220 320 274 etc01:45
zhanxthinki missed that01:45
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heguruInnomen: hmm so your file line does not contain the work LILO01:45
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heguru*word01:45
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jxxxtSlart, 2 at 25601:45
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Slartjxxxt: where did you see the number 309 MB?01:45
Innomeni dont see it but it apears ot have cut off the top of the file perhaps, how could i know?01:45
heguruInnomen: hexdump -C ~/mbr | less01:45
Davo_Dinkumhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup how do i transfer files once i have the serial connection set up?01:45
Innomenyea did that01:45
cool_147zdravo01:46
heguruInnomen: ok01:46
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heguruInnomen: this is not your boot disk?01:46
jxxxtSlart, Terminal do free -m01:46
zhanxJack_Sparrow,  thanks i missed it01:46
Innomeni have no idea man01:46
Jack_Sparrownp  easy command01:46
cool_147zdravo01:46
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heguruInnomen: ok, again, you have 3 disks01:46
heguruInnomen: sda sdb and sdc01:46
Innomensdc 3 is where the sys is installed but i believe its booting from a diffrent drive01:46
kantorhi, how can I enable in Ubunti to use the scsi interface emulated for my  ATA hard drive ?01:46
heguruInnomen: hmm01:46
kantorubuntu01:46
Innomenthats the thing that weirdo ikonia out01:46
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Innomenwerided*01:47
IndyGunFreaklol, that wierdo?..lol01:47
Innomenshut up lol01:47
IndyGunFreakfreudian slip..lol01:47
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Innomenlol01:47
Innomeni almost spit tea on my laptop01:47
Innomenanyway01:47
kattihm no there is nothing about a likom L7034td in the web. Anyone know this model?01:47
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Slartjxxxt: I'm thinking you shouldn't worry about all the memory being used.. it's probably being used for cache and stuff (unused memory is wasted memory according to the linux-crowd).. but the total amount of memory is weird01:47
NallemanI have tried to download google earth. i get a bin file that i dont know what to to with. any tips?01:48
IndyGunFreakNalleman: run it.. but if you add the medibuntu repo, googleearth is in it.01:48
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IndyGunFreak!medibuntu01:48
carlinux!ask | does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?01:48
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ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:49
ubotudoes someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:49
Slartjxxxt: just to give you something to compare with.. I have 4 GB memory and I have 3,9 GB used by just having gnome+irc-client running..01:49
Innomenthere should be an app to configure this sort of stuff for you01:49
Nallemanmidibuntu. seems like the thing!01:49
jxxxtSlart, My computer is none almost operational output from free is: john@jt-laptop:~$ free -m01:49
jxxxt             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached01:49
jxxxtMem:           309        303          6          0          6        12301:49
jxxxt01:49
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Innomenthe grub file should be able to search01:49
Innomenlike i tell it to boot it says partiion not found01:50
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Innomenit then searches01:50
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Slartjxxxt: see the number to the far right.. cached.. you are using 123 MB for cache.. that will be used if any programs want more memory01:50
Innomenthat must be super hard01:50
NallemanIndyGunFreak, ehm.. is there a repo for gutsy or could i use the feisty repo?01:50
way2coolhey can i go to some router interface without being in that same Computer thats in a network with that router?01:50
IndyGunFreakNalleman: *I* just used the Feisty one, and it seems fine, i've used it to insall codecs, google earth, etc...01:50
IndyGunFreakand had no probs.01:50
IndyGunFreakbut ymmv01:50
way2coolhey can i go to some router interface without being in that same Computer thats in a network with that router?01:50
way2cooli know the computer ip & the router ip01:51
heguruInnomen: well what if it finds remains of a deleted partition and boots it which in turn runs autofix and screws up your working paritions?01:51
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NallemanIndyGunFreak, ok, and you uses gutsy as well?01:51
Innomenshit happens, thats why you put dialogs "are you sure?"01:51
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jxxxtSlart, If I open a program now my computer will lock up completely01:51
IndyGunFreakNalleman: yup..01:51
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Innomencant break a broken system01:51
NallemanIndyGunFreak, great.01:51
Innomenway2cool: i joined off topic01:51
reverieOnce Gutsy comes out I think I'm going to write a nice review and hwoto for my Thinkpa + Gutsy01:52
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reverietho there is a howto already for tribe 501:52
heguruheguru: also remember that grub runs int he mbr which is 446bytes in size.. not much you can put in this size except "boot that disk"01:52
heguru^^Innomen01:52
Innomenis that a hard limit? can the size be increased any?01:52
Slartjxxxt: hang on.. I'm trying to find some kind of utility to check memory size etc01:52
Innomenoh oh01:52
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Innomenthere's got to be a way around01:52
Slartjxxxt: have you tried running memtest?01:52
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heguruInnomen: its the way x86 computers work01:52
Innomenor have this app part of livecd01:52
Innomenlike a simulation that asks these questions and does like a simulated bootup01:53
Innomeni'm sorry but "cant" just dosent work for me lol01:53
Innomeni cant wait till i can speak to machines01:53
jxxxtSlart, There is a memory funtion check and it seems ok yes memtest01:53
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Slartjxxxt: and that one also report 309 MB total memory?01:53
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heguruInnomen: one more thing, you seem to have boot guard as well?01:53
enkravhow can I ensure that anacron doesn't run anything for a while?01:54
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Innomenis there a way to tile windows autmatcially in ubuntu?01:54
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enkrav(while I'm burning a cd)01:54
jxxxtSlart, I only part ran to test simple mem funtion01:54
Innomenbootguard was the problem earlier01:54
Innomenyes01:54
mechdaveenkrav: /etc/init.d/anacron stop01:54
heguruInnomen: so you disabled boot guard now?01:54
enkravthx01:54
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Innomenno, we installed grub to a drive that when booted to didnt bitch01:55
jxxxtSlart, Open office will not open01:55
mechdaveenkrav: no worries01:55
Innomeni dont even know where that bootguard crap is comeing from01:55
Innomenits not the bios01:55
Slartjxxxt: what are you running? gnome?01:55
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jxxxtSlart, Gnome yes Plus many more do not01:55
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heguruInnomen: what kind of sata controller do you have?01:57
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Innomenno idea01:58
IndyGunFreakdoes anyone know the address of ubuntu headquarters?01:58
heguruInnomen: lspci | grep IDE01:58
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Innomenits a dell gx26001:58
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Innomenone moment01:58
PiciIndyGunFreak: Check Canoncial's website.01:58
IndyGunFreakPici: is that canonical.com?01:59
PiciIndyGunFreak: Yessir.01:59
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Innomenyou want me to type all this?01:59
InnomenICH5 sata controller rev 02 intel 82801eb02:00
heguruInnomen: no it should be two lines, I need just the Number02:00
heguruInnomen: hmm02:00
IndyGunFreakPici: hmm, can't find it there.... i wanna look at their hQ on Google earth..lol02:00
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jxxxtSlart, Can you think of anything else that would be soaking up my memory02:00
Slartjxxxt: I can't really find any utils that tell you more about physical memory... but if I were you I'd try to find out why your memory isn't being correctly recognized02:00
IndyGunFreaksee if its ran out of a garage or something..lol02:00
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Innomeni gotta run some errands here in an hour or so02:02
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Slartjxxxt: do you have swap space?02:02
ikoniaInnomen: I'm back02:02
Innomenwb!02:02
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Innomen*hugs*02:02
IndyGunFreaklol, now he has to leave02:02
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Innomenheguru tried ot help02:02
Innomenbut it's got him baffled as well02:02
ikoniaInnomen: how did you get on ?02:02
jxxxtSlart, Yes I have swap space02:02
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Innomeni have a talent for munging things up iyt seems02:02
Slartjxxxt: or... what happens when you start some applications? ubuntu stops responding? you have to do a hard reboot?02:02
Innomenthe uuid numbers already matched02:03
ikoniaInnomen: did they ?02:03
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jxxxtSlart, The OFF switch is the only option02:03
astro76IndyGunFreak, AFAIK they don't really have one... "Canonical Ltd is a company headquartered in Europe with 90+ employees working in over 18 countries.", and by headquarterd in Europe I think they mean Mark has a flat in London ;02:03
ikoniaInnomen: so all you UUID numbers where right02:03
Innomenyea02:03
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ikoniaastro76 its an office in ireland02:03
Innomenseems so02:03
jxxxtSlart, evn little GNome icons go away02:04
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astro76ah there you go02:04
ikoniaInnomen and all the "root" options where (hd2,2)02:04
IndyGunFreakhere's a wierd gutsy bug... when i add my workspace applet to my panel, i can only have two workspaces, i'd like 402:04
Innomenyup02:04
jxxxteven02:04
Innomenit should work02:04
Slartjxxxt: try installing memtester "sudo apt-get install memtester"02:04
Innomenyet it dosent02:04
IndyGunFreakastro76: lol, it would seem that way02:04
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Slartjxxxt: it's kind of like memtest86 but it doesn't require you to reboot02:04
Innomenthere should be a recovery app inside the live cd02:04
ikoniaInnomen I agree, take a look at the first few lines at the file, where it says "default" is there any "root" there02:04
Innomenbut i wont complain :)02:04
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Innomenlet me reopen it02:05
jxxxtSlart, Ok I am sure I will have to quit xchat though02:05
Slartjxxxt: huh? why?02:05
IndyGunFreakmust be a dual monitor thing, cuz it works fine on my laptop02:05
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jxxxtSlart, Two things at the same time02:05
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Slartjxxxt: oh.. it's a small command line app02:05
Slartjxxxt: and installing it won't take much memory02:06
Innomenoky its open02:06
blizzkidhi people, anyone experienced in using qemu?02:06
jxxxtSlart, Let me see what happens02:06
Slartjxxxt: sure.. if you have to reboot I'll be here when you come back02:06
InnomenI'm not sutre what i'm looking for02:07
Innomeni see a bunch of commented out "default options"02:07
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ikoniaInnomen: shouldn't be anything, I'm just looking at an example file02:07
Innomenautomnagic kermnls list02:07
ikoniaInnomen: one moment, just investigating the blkid stuff02:07
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Innomenkernals02:07
Innomenoky02:07
Innomentake yur time02:07
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: what ar eyou looking at, your boot/menu.lst?02:09
Innomenyes02:09
ikoniaInnomen: I think - note "think" your reading old blkid entries from /etc/blkid.tab02:09
Innomenam i looking at the right thing?02:09
ikoniaInnomen: you may have to re-generate the blkid's02:09
jxxxtSlart, It will not let me because I have an incomplete upgrade. I will try finsh that from the command line first02:09
IndyGunFreakput in pastebin and maybe 6 eyes are better than 2..lol02:09
Innomenno boot grub menu.lst, at the very top02:09
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Innomenlike the top halfd of the file is neatly commented out and it syas spesifcally not to uncomment stuff02:09
ikoniaInnomen thats fine02:09
CyberFAILwhat would i install to chat to gtalk contacts02:10
Slartjxxxt: ok02:10
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CyberFAILwell log into my gtalk account02:10
Innomenoky, what shall i do my Liege?02:10
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: pidgin02:10
CyberFAILis it in the repos02:10
ikoniaInnomen still working it all out02:10
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IndyGunFreakum, *maybe*... but the version in the repos has a security bug.;02:10
Innomenis it st krispins day?02:10
paulowskyhi, can anybody tell me how ntfs file sharing is done on ubuntu? i want to make my windows partition a read-write partition.02:10
Innomensorry02:10
PiciPidgin is not in the Feisty repos.02:10
pixlhow can I change icon size in gnome menus? A quick search tells me I have to apply a patch to gtk, but there must be a better way :P02:11
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: what version of ubuntu are you using?02:11
CyberFAILfeisty02:11
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CyberFAILi have the pidgin source02:11
CyberFAILlets do this...02:11
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok..02:11
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Innomen:)02:11
Innomenlez do dis!02:11
Innomenheheh02:11
CyberFAILlol02:12
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: first, build the dependency list... open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim".. no quotes02:12
Innomenyeeeee boyyeeee02:12
Innomensorry02:12
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Innomeni dont do that actually02:12
CyberFAILis dbl clicking and saying extract to home folder ok?02:12
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: not yet02:12
CyberFAILi have gaim installed02:12
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: well, i'd uninstall gaim if i were you, but your'e still gonna have to build a gaim dependency list02:12
julzcould someone help me get xubuntu to recognise a pci card please?02:12
CyberFAILyay02:12
CyberFAIL29mb of download...02:12
Innomenthe os should be a com piler, and just ahve the apps written in code directly02:13
CyberFAILand do i have to uninstall gaim? im using it for msn02:13
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Innomenlike how dungeon seige works02:13
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: i imagine you probably should, you can set up pidgin with MSN.02:13
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Innomenplain text game files02:13
Innomen:)02:13
kimmey2k3!backup02:13
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:13
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak:02:13
ikoniaInnomen just trying to work out how to generate new uuid's02:13
kimmey2k3!im02:13
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:13
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ?.. what02:13
CyberFAILmust i remove game before building the dependency's?02:13
Innomenlike i said take yur time02:13
CyberFAILor can i just leave it there?02:13
Innomenit may not be fixable02:14
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: i told you, i would.02:14
Innomenmight be something unique to my configuration02:14
ikoniaInnomen very frustrating, I don't see why you are not getting the correct partition, when the uuid is right02:14
CyberFAILyea but i mean must i remove it before building the dependencys?02:14
Innomenme either02:14
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: if you're going to remove it, then yes, remove it before building the dependencies02:14
CyberFAILok02:14
CyberFAILsudo apt-get uninstall gaim?02:14
IndyGunFreaksudo apt-get remove gaim02:14
heguruikonia: would you recommend super grub boot disk to try to boot?02:15
ikoniaInnomen: take a look in /etc/blkid.tab and see if the info in there matches up02:15
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Innomenoky hyold on02:15
ikoniaheguru supergrub is just the same version of grub on the live cd, so no02:15
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CyberFAILok busy removing02:15
barzinihow do I fix this "failed to create initrd image /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs line :91 mktemp: command not found" can I apt-get mkinitramfs02:15
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok.02:15
tetraedrhi everyone!02:15
Woethi02:15
ikoniabarzini the command mktemp is not on your system02:16
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heguruikonia: except it can find bootable partition and try to boot them directly02:16
ikoniaheguru its already found bootable partitions in the grub install.02:16
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ikoniaheguru the problem is his uuid's are not matching up to a physical readable partition02:16
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CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: ok busy doing the dependencys02:16
tetraedrpeople I got a trouble with ubuntu installation: I got notebook which has wxga and it can't work with simple vga driver which is used for X by default. there are no drivers which may suite to wxga in default installation cdrom. how to install it?02:16
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.02:17
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok... that wil probably take a couple min02:17
WoetOr killing the process.02:17
ikoniatetraedr what video card do you have02:17
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tetraedrikonia ati02:17
Innomenok both open02:17
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: while its doing that, have you extracted the source code?02:17
ikonia!ati >tetraedr02:17
Innomenit all matches02:17
ikoniatetraedr: read that link02:17
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Innomenit is pointing to the drive it should be02:17
julzubuntu can handle usb 2.0, correct?02:17
mooperHi, I have dual dvi monitors but ubuntu wont let me set them up as dual screen..... Apply is greyed out!02:17
barziniikonia: should mktemp be on my system? after that error I get error processing linux-image-2.6.15-28-server (--configure)02:17
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: i extracted it by saying extract from the gui02:17
ikoniaInnomen does the file systems in /etc/blkid.tar match up02:17
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tetraedrikonika which link?02:17
CyberFAILdo i need to untar xzf or any of that weird stuff?02:17
ikoniabarzini correct02:17
tetraedr!ati02:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:18
Innomenwait02:18
ikoniatetraedr ubotu just sent you a pm02:18
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok, and it put a folder on your desktop pidgin 2.1.1 or something?02:18
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by killing the process..02:18
kimmey2k3@backup02:18
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: one step at a time... just follow me02:18
ikoniaWoet stop asking every minute02:18
CyberFAILyesh IndyGunFreak02:18
kimmey2k3!backup02:18
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:18
IndyGunFreakok.02:18
ikoniaWoet log a bug on launchpad if your not getting anywheere in here02:18
Innomengunna need a better idea of what you are asking, sorry02:18
kimmey2k3!im02:18
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:18
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: just for simplicity sake, i'd move that source folder, inside your home folder.02:18
Woethow ikonia?02:18
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Innomenlike are you aksing if elements withint the nex file match or elements within the new file and the menu file match?02:18
ikoniaInnomen: in /etc/blkid.tab it has details on the devices things like type="ntfs" etc etc. Does that match up with what is rally on your system02:19
Milos_SDhello .... I started Ubuntu 7.10 Beta, and boot screen is deformed ... It's like resolution is not right ...02:19
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: thats where it was ment to go, dont know how it got to desktop02:19
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Innomenyes02:19
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: it happens... like i said, just for simplicity, thats where id put it.02:19
Innomenit sees the 3 paritions on the main ata drive02:19
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: ok moves02:19
Milos_SDI started Live CD...02:19
CyberFAILmoved*02:19
WoetWhen i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by killing the process..02:19
ikoniaInnomen and it all looks good02:19
ikoniaWoet STOP asking every 1 minute02:20
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Innomenas far as i can tell02:20
ikoniaWoet if your getting no-where leave it a while, or log a bug in ubuntu's launchpad02:20
WoetHOW?02:20
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ikoniaWoet vistit the launchpad website02:20
IdleOneWoet: www.launchpad.net02:20
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: 8 minutes for download of gaim dependency's02:20
Woetk.02:20
CyberFAILbrb with ice cream02:20
apecatwhy won't the gnome keyring manager show my passwords in cleartext?02:20
CyberFAIL:D02:20
Innomeni want icecream02:20
apecat(feisty)02:20
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ikoniaInnomen this is very frustrating. I can't understand why your selected partition is not usable02:21
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ikoniaInnomen: ahhh yes I can !!!02:21
IndyGunFreaklol02:21
Innomen:)02:22
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barziniikonia: apt-cache search didn't find mktemp how do i install?02:22
ikoniaInnomen your on the livecd now ?02:22
Innomenregardless i stand in awe of your dedication to a stranger02:22
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Innomenyes i am02:22
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IndyGunFreakoopsie.02:22
blablubbhey, i'm installing a pcmcia-card on a laptop. i've got a howto but i don't find the ndiswrapper-source.tar.bz202:22
ikoniabarzini I can't remember the package name, normally tmpfile or something02:22
ikoniabarzini hang on02:22
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IndyGunFreakthe "default" wallpapers in Gutsy suck.02:23
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minimecIndyGunFreak: A good reason to use WinXP again ;)02:23
Innomenlol02:24
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IndyGunFreakminimec: i have 1 good reason to use XP, my gps device... thats why xp only has a 15gig partition..lol02:24
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CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: 2 mins left... brb with more ice cream02:26
IndyGunFreaklol, ok02:26
IndyGunFreakat least he gets a workout running bck and forth to the freezer02:26
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: did you guys figure out your prob?02:26
ikoniaInnomen: did you say you are on the live cd ?02:27
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Innomeni think iknoia has an idea but he/she ran off02:27
ikoniaInnomen: think I have the answer02:27
Innomenyes02:27
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IndyGunFreaklol02:27
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ikoniaInnomen: have you got your ubuntu disk mounted under the livecd on /mnt ?02:27
Innomeni'm not sure, how would i check?02:28
ikoniaInnomen: sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt02:28
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Innomenalreayd mounted02:28
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pawanhi02:29
ikoniaInnomen: excellent, so open /mnt/boot/grub/device.map in a text editor02:29
pawanwhat is the latest version of ubuntu02:29
CyberFAIL<IndyGunFreak> at least he gets a workout running bck and forth to the freezer <== it is quite the run02:29
ikoniapawan 7.0402:29
IndyGunFreakpawan: stable is feisty fawn 7.04, gutsy 8.10 will be out in about 20 days02:29
Innomenoky02:29
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: lol02:29
ikoniaInnomen in thatfile you should see an entry for /dev/sdc02:29
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IndyGunFreakis it done download the dependencies?02:29
pawan8.10 beta is out there02:29
ikoniaInnomen what does /dev/sdc map to ?02:29
Innomenopen02:30
ikoniapawan 7.10 beta is out02:30
ikoniapawan but it is a beta02:30
Innomenhd202:30
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ikoniaInnomen damn !02:30
ikoniaInnomen thought I had it then02:30
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pawanwill the new release be feisty02:30
Innomenno you're right this should be working02:30
Innomeni dont think its the software02:30
ikoniapawan no 7.04 is fesity02:30
CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: yup its done02:30
IndyGunFreakok02:30
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Innomeni think heguru was onto it when he asked about my ata controller02:30
pawanthen02:30
IndyGunFreakin a terminal, type cd ~/pidgin-2.1.102:31
ikoniaInnomen and to double check the root(hd2,2) entry is in /mnt/boot/grub/meny.lst"02:31
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IndyGunFreakand it should change the directory prompt in the terminal02:31
usr13pawan, Yes the new release will be feisty, but that's not it's name  :)02:31
Innomenthat drive was a huge pain in the ass to get seen by the system02:31
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Innomeneven now the live cd is not seeing the 300s on the ide channels02:31
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IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: sorry, that should be cd ~/pidgin-2.2.102:31
pawancan we upgrade the existing installation02:31
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CyberFAILlol02:31
Innomenok02:31
CyberFAILi noticed but cd'ed there manually02:31
ikoniaInnomen  but just to be clear "root (hd2,2)" in /mnt/boor/grub/menu.lst"02:32
usr13pawan, Yes02:32
pawanor new installation02:32
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok.. type ./configure02:32
Innomenbetween the menu, the blkids, and the device map we have a path of trans;lation between the /dev/sd* the (hd*) and the menu items02:32
usr13pawn Yes02:32
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Innomeni've learned the whole cycle02:32
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ikoniaInnomen this would be easier if you could pastbin the whole thing02:32
unicode!3d02:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:33
Innomenyea the ubuntu options all point to hd 2,202:33
ikoniaInnomen spot on02:33
Innomenyea I'm sure :/02:33
ikoniaInnomen i'll have to think on this, ias it makes no sense02:33
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CyberFAILIndyGunFreak:02:33
barziniikonia: just in case you lost me :-D I am still hanging on02:33
CyberFAILnow make?02:33
IndyGunFreakyes.02:33
zoldarhow to enable chat logging in kopete ?02:33
ikoniabarzini sorry, I forgot about you02:33
CyberFAILthen make install?02:33
barzinihe no prob I appreciate any help02:34
Innomeni'm sorry barzini02:34
InnomenI'm hogging the genius02:34
Innomenyou can have some02:34
barzinihey real problems are real i shot my self in this case I think02:34
pawanhello02:34
Innomenwell hell me 202:34
Innomenlol02:34
ikoniabarzini the package is called mktemp02:35
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CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: after make... do i do make install?02:35
DaBeowulfIs there an oss mixer?02:35
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DaBeowulfI used Audacity on Win98SE to record stuff and just gave it a try under Xubuntu but there're high frequency beeps and all sorts of things and the recorded stuff sounds absolutely crappy and unlike the source stuff. I tried alsamixer and xfce4-mixer to no avail.02:35
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: after make, its sudo make install02:35
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barziniok is there a prefferd way to get it?02:35
ikoniaInnomen your pro blem is very unusual02:35
Innomenaudacity! that reminds me02:35
IndyGunFreakthen it should be compiled and in your menu02:35
CyberFAILand then?02:35
CyberFAIL!play? :D02:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about play? :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:35
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Innomenis the a gui for perl audio converter?02:35
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ikoniabarzini from the synaptic repo I guess, if you search synaptic for initd or mkinitrd it will proably be a dependency02:36
Innomenmy voice recorder spits out weird voc files heheh02:36
sodokuhas anybody time differnces in the appointments between the gnome panel and evolution?02:36
sodokugnome panel shows appointments one hour to late02:36
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navets_ls02:36
heguruInnomen: you don't have PATA hard disks in the same machine?02:37
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ikoniaheguru he said he had two PATA's with it02:37
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Innomenhow do i check if they are pata?02:37
Innomenon is sata the others arent02:37
Innomeni dont know what they are02:37
ikoniaInnomen: IDE = pata SATA = serial02:38
adlisyakirhye.. how i can play irc like mirc in ubuntu?02:38
adlisyakiri'm using ubuntu 7.0402:38
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ikoniaadlisyakir xchat02:38
CyberFAILomw make takes long02:38
adlisyakirhow i can get xchat?02:38
DaBeowulfNo pidgin02:38
ikoniaadlisyakir install it using the package manager02:38
adlisyakirhow>?02:38
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Innomenoh yes02:39
sodokusudo apt-get install xchat02:39
ikonia!synaptic >adlisyakir02:39
Innomenheheh ide02:39
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sodokuin the terminal02:39
DaBeowulf!pidgin02:39
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.002:39
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sodoku!pidgin02:39
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DaBeowulfGod why does the recorded stuff sound so crappy? And why is there a high frequency constant beep even if I only record 'silence'?02:40
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: yes, make will take a few minutes.. usually about 10-1502:40
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LjLDaBeowulf: noisy soundcard? MIDI input (or other noisy inputs) enabled?02:42
dorothygale_Hi all. Where can I get Ubuntu Server support?02:42
LjLwho #ubuntu-server02:42
LjLahem02:42
LjLhere.02:42
dorothygale_thanks02:42
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adlisyakirwhat is pidgin?02:43
MikeonTVHey guys. My morning routin includes turning on my duelbooted laptop (with ubuntu as default), then I open IRC and other programs that constently are updating and then getting ready for the day. I use BitchX irc client (runs in the terminal) is there a way to set a series of command in the terminal so It will automatically open 4 terminals, each run Bitchx and get me in to my servers and channels?02:43
DaBeowulfWell it's onboard sound but my old mobo had a nice one so I thought they do, this: Realtelk ALC655 (6 channel audio CODEC) compliant with AC'97 2.3 specs02:43
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dgjones!pidgin | adlisyakir02:44
ubotuadlisyakir: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.002:44
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Unterfrankehi02:44
Unterfrankeplz02:44
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Unterfrankecan you tell me, an German ubuntu Chan02:44
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: once its completely done, just start pidgin, and there's a Googletalk plugin, jus set it up with your account, same with msn02:44
dgjones!de | Unterfranke02:44
ubotuUnterfranke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:44
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Unterfrankethx02:44
heguruInnomen: do you want to try something else to fix your boot issue?02:44
Innomenduhr02:44
CyberFAILjsut started the make install IndyGunFreak02:44
Innomenof course :)02:45
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok.02:45
Innomeni'm leanring here02:45
Innomenlearning02:45
heguruInnomen: open the device.map file in an editor02:45
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Innomenopen02:45
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UnterfrankeServus02:45
heguruInnomen: add one line for each hard disk02:45
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adlisyakirhye.. how i can get 2 OS in one computer, like windows vista and ubuntu without effect my pc. and i can choose one that i want when open the pc. how/?02:45
heguruInnomen: (hd0) /dev/sda02:46
IndyGunFreak!dualboot | adlisyakir02:46
ubotuadlisyakir: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty02:46
Innomenthats what it has already02:46
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heguruInnomen: hd1 should be sdb, hd2 is already there i believe, hd3 should be /dev/hda, hd4 should be /dev/hdb02:46
heguruInnomen: ah my bad sorry got confused02:46
IndyGunFreakadlisyakir: but some people have had issues dual booting vista, ymmv02:46
Innomenoky there is no 402:46
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Innomenor 302:47
heguruInnomen: you have a total of 5 hard disks right?02:47
heguruInnomen: 3 SATA and 2 IDE?02:47
Innomenyes but it dosent see the 300s02:47
Innomenno02:47
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Innomen2 peta 1 sata02:47
Innomenthe 1 seta is cut into three parititons02:47
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Innomen1 xp, 1 ubuntu 1 swap and freespace un allocated02:47
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CyberFAILIndyGunFreak: it wont connect02:48
IndyGunFreakwhy not?02:48
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IndyGunFreakyuou're doing something wrong then02:48
IndyGunFreaki'm n my gmail account righ tnow and its fine.02:48
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Kopfgeldjaegerhi02:49
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Innomencould i loan machine to the ubunut people02:50
Mortice302:50
Morticeoops02:50
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barziniikonia: that  got it and it seems happy in the process however I seem to have lost my desktop backgound, X's where things where around the desktop and icons on the menus are gone02:50
Innomencould i loian this machine to the ubuntu people and ahve the develop a fix?02:50
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Innomenthem02:50
ikoniaInnomen if you have network access, I'll play with it and see if I can fix it02:50
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ikoniabarzini what are you actually doing ?02:51
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Innomennope i dont, i have a belkin pci wireless card it it dosent see the net02:51
Innomenlet me tinker02:51
ikoniaInnomen ok02:51
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superhumanlyHey, can someone help me with a touchpad related issue? My touchpad is WAY too sensitve...02:51
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: did you figure it out?02:51
IndyGunFreak!touchpad02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:51
IndyGunFreak!touch02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:51
RabbitbunnySo, I'm running fine and stable on 6.06, Assuming I install a soundcard, What are the cahnces of it not booting to a usable state versus working perfectly?02:51
IndyGunFreakRabbitbunny: why 6.06?02:52
RabbitbunnyIndyGunFreak: 733MHz, 320MB.02:52
IndyGunFreakanyways, it depends on the sound card.02:52
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IndyGunFreakRabbitbunny: that has nothing to do with it.02:52
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jegHegyhello all. i'm having bluetooth problems (feisty, laptop with USB BT adapter, Sony-Ericsson phone, Asus Windows Mobile 5 PDA); i can pair all devices successfully, but i cannot create a persistent connection from the laptop to the other devices. it works fine if i browse OBEX or send files, but if i try to bind a serial port of a device to the laptop in blueman, it connects while i discover the services, and then disconnects immediately.02:52
Rabbitbunny6.10 and 7x hate me too.02:52
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dgjones!synaptics | superhumanly02:52
ubotusuperhumanly: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad02:52
CyberFAILyes IndyGunFreak02:53
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IndyGunFreakRabbitbunny: i'm guessing you were doing something wrong then... or some hardware issue.02:53
IndyGunFreakCyberFAIL: ok.02:53
superhumanlythanks obotu02:53
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RabbitbunnyIndyGunFreak: Probably hardware. I guess I'll grab the soundcard and ask a more difned question.02:53
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Rabbitbunnydefined*02:53
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Innomenits trying to connect02:53
Innomenit does see my wireless card02:54
IndyGunFreakRabbitbunny: google will probably go a long way to helping you pick a compatible sound card02:54
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heguruInnomen: sorry my nm-applet got upgraded02:55
gordonjcpRabbitbunny: unless something is terribly terribly wrong, adding a soundcard shouldn't stop your PC from booting02:55
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barziniikonia: I was trying to add ffmpeg days ago but scrwed up something when I did an update and upgrade now I have the kernel fix so it's not complaining but gnome got removed or corrupted in the process can I jsut resintall the desktop or what02:55
Innomenits good man02:55
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Innomenyou guys dont have to apologize to me for anything02:55
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Innomeni'd pay you all for your time if i had the money02:55
heguruInnomen: ok one thing i don't understand, why is your disk detected as sdc while its the only sata disk02:55
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RabbitbunnyCreative SoundBlaster 24bit sound realistic?02:55
ikoniabarzini not sure why a kernel update would remove gnome02:55
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: did they figure it out?02:56
Innomenno they didnt but not for lack of trying02:56
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heguruInnomen: ok lets try to open the device.map file again02:56
Innomenopen02:56
hegurucan you tell me the three lines that are there?02:56
Innomena list hd 0-202:57
Innomendev/ sd a b and c02:57
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Innomenin order02:57
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Innomen0=a and so on02:57
ChriswaterguyHi - I can't find the opt directory! It does show up in Thunar, under filesystem. (I'm trying to copy sunbird files into opt, following an installation guide)02:57
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Chriswaterguysorry, I meant, "it doesn't show up"02:57
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barziniikonia: I think the real problem was the go-by to find ffmpeg lead me to pulling from unstable sources to locate ffmpeg and i got some stuff that caused problems but getting rid of it cause the other problem. I think I' stable now I just need my desktop back02:58
IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: open a terminal  gksudo thunar, then navigate to the opt folder02:58
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ikoniabarzini re-apply the "gnome-desktop" package02:58
barzinivia apt-get ?02:58
heguruInnomen: are you sure you have 2 IDE and 1 SATA hard disks and not 3 SATA hard disks?02:58
_stefan_anyone else having trouples finding proftpd package through apt? I've done apt-get update but I cant find the package, has there been a security issue with it?02:58
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Innomencertain02:59
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Innomenbut i'm willing to try anything02:59
ikoniaheguru don't forget ide is now /sd$02:59
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Pici_stefan_: Looks to be there, make sure that you have the universe repo enabled.02:59
zhanxok, here is the next one....02:59
Pici_stefan_: At least on feisty.02:59
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: what is the problem, grub doesn't load?02:59
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zhanx!biometrics02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about biometrics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:59
heguruikonia: yeah just realized02:59
zhanx!fingerprint02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fingerprint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:00
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zhanx!bioApi03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bioapi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:00
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_stefan_thanks I'll check, was sure I unmarked it when I marked cdrom03:00
LjL!botabuse | zhanx03:00
ubotuzhanx: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...03:00
Innomengrub loads, i sekect ubuntu and it says partion not found03:00
Innomenerror 22 i think03:00
IndyGunFreakInnomen: oh ok...03:00
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ikoniaInnomen thats correct selected partition does not exist03:00
ikoniaInnomen which it does03:00
zhanxok.. that taken care. trying to get my finger print reader working03:00
Innomenwhen i pick the windows one it says error 1303:00
ikoniaInnomen hence the lost03:00
ikoniaInnomen the windows one is error 13 ?03:00
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zhanxi cant get the sample program to start03:01
Innomenyes03:01
IndyGunFreakikonia: heguru  have you guys considered like maybe just reinstalling grub w/ super grub disk or something?.. I don't know, i know squat about grub.03:01
Innomensomething about format it says03:01
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Innomeni cant recall but i said it before03:01
Innomenlet me search03:01
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doggerhi can anyone suggest a good secure currently maintained IRC server to install on ubuntu?03:01
Pici!enter03:01
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:01
ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak: Thanks... but I still can't see opt!03:01
Innomengah buffer too big03:01
Innomeniz gone03:01
ikoniadogger its just personal opinion03:01
IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: did you click on Filesystem on the left?03:01
Chriswaterguyyes03:01
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Chriswaterguythere's mnt and proc, but no opt in between.03:02
doggersure, but I'm asking peoples opinions - lots of them seem to be dead03:02
genii!info ircd-hybrid |dogger03:02
ubotudogger: ircd-hybrid: high-performance secure IRC server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.2.2.dfsg.1-3 (feisty), package size 549 kB, installed size 2208 kB03:02
IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: hmm, i have no explanation, i'm looking right at mine.03:02
ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak: I'm using Xubuntu, does that matter?03:02
doggerok thanks03:02
IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: shouldn't03:02
_stefan_Pici: it was there it was under the security universy, *tries to become less stupid, might be hard though*03:02
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geniidogger: Lots of info can be found at their home site, http://www.ircd-hybrid.org/03:03
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doggerthanks genii :)03:04
zoekfgkgkgk03:04
superhumanlyanother issue: when i install all of the updates(after installing a clean alternate iso version of 7.04, ubuntu will no longer boot, it stops at an error message.03:04
ckin2001Chriswaterguy, sudo mkdir opt , opt isn't alwasy created by default03:04
ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak: hmm... if there's no suggestions, I'll post on a forum somewhere (I guess ubuntuforums or linuxquestions).03:04
IndyGunFreakta03:04
IndyGunFreakya03:04
Chriswaterguyah03:04
geniidogger: You're welcome :) Maybe look into some bots as well, eggdrop or such to keep cahnnels open and police them03:04
doggerah ok sure03:05
saxi1superhumanly: have you tried to choose an older kernel?03:05
Chriswaterguythanks - I just created the folder in Thunar.03:05
kahrytansuperhumanly, error msg is?03:05
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Odo&join ubuntu-it03:06
superhumanlywhen i use the older kernel, it works for the first boot but then produces the same error message again, an i'm not sure of the exact mesage off hand...03:06
superhumanlyi would have to install all th updates, pretty much rendering this install of ubuntu useless, in order to reprouduce the error lol03:06
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superhumanlyi do know that the "ubuntu" loading screen would load like |---| that much then freeze up for like 2 minutes, then the error woul appear.03:07
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ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak and ckin2001: Thanks - just managed to copy the files.03:07
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tudorHi all03:07
IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: what were you doing wrong?03:07
kahrytansuperhumanly, what error msg?03:07
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superhumanlyi'm not sure, as i said i would have to brick this ubuntu install to reproduce it lol03:07
superhumanlyany common errors wih symptoms like that that i can choose from? lol03:08
superhumanlyBTW i'm running this from wubi.03:08
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Innomenfreenode.com or .net?03:08
superhumanlynet03:09
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barziniikonia: I am getting a bunch of unmet dependencies when I issue this "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" any suggestions03:09
ikoniabarzini what version of gnome desktop is it trying to pull down, the old stable or an unstable one03:09
Innomensuper: thanky03:10
mooperHi, How do I configure X to use dual screens? I have an ATI sapphire x1650 pro03:10
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barziniThe stable on i commented out the unstale stuff03:10
barzinistable one03:10
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ikoniabarzini so are the deps the stable or unstable versions its complaining about03:10
superhumanlybut i guess i'll install all the updates so i can get this error to appear :)03:10
ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak: didn't realize I had to create the file. I'd assumed that opt must be the Linux version of Programs in XP or something like that, so couldn't figure why it wasn't there.03:11
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Chriswaterguyalso didn't know about gksudo thunar03:11
IndyGunFreaklol, well thats a good reason you couldn't find it.03:11
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IndyGunFreakChriswaterguy: it just allows you to open thunar with root access so you can create opt(or add to it)03:11
superhumanlydownloading/installing the updates now, 120 files.03:12
barziniikonia :I don't know how to tell here is a snippit  Depends: gnome-core (= 1:2.12.2.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: epiphany-browser (>= 1.8.3-2) but it is not going to be installed or03:12
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IndyGunFreakyou can actually use gksudo with any graphical program that needs root... gksudo gedit, gksudo thunar, etc.03:12
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atompngninnomen: I understand you're having some trouble with grub?03:13
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Innomenindeed i am03:13
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Innomenare you the ringer from marshall? :)03:14
superhumanlyWOW the flashfxp desktop icon is hgue03:14
superhumanlyhuge*03:14
atompngninnomen: the ringer?03:14
heguruInnomen: can you try one more thing?03:14
Innomendo you work at marshall? :P03:14
Innomenheguru03:14
Innomenof course03:15
atompngninnomen: yes03:15
Innomenyur the ringer :)03:15
heguruInnomen: but before you try, let me ask, because i remember you trying that in the morning (4-5 hours back)03:15
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Innomenikonia: heguru and others have been helping me03:15
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Innomeni dont mind doing it again03:15
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Innomenit'll help me learn03:15
heguruInnomen: you tried editing the grub boot options at boot time to point to different hd (hd(0,2))?03:15
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Innomenyup03:15
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Innomenboth via the menu.lst file and from the menu itself03:16
ChriswaterguyIndyGunFreak and ckin2001: Thanks again - I'm off. Net cafes in North Sumatra are too bloody smokey.03:16
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heguruInnomen: do you remember trying hd(0,2)03:16
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Chriswaterguy(and this is supposedly a non-smoking one)03:16
ckin2001Chriswaterguy, np :D03:16
IndyGunFreaklol03:16
IndyGunFreaknp03:16
Innomenno i dont03:16
heguruInnomen: can you remove the cd03:16
heguruInnomen: boot again and enter the GRUB menu03:16
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Innomenif i do you'll have to tell me how to open the device file and menu file again when i come back heheh03:16
vsayikiranhow to use IR port in ubuntu03:17
Innomensure03:17
kane77I have a problem: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on  unknown-block(0,0) Can I fix it somehow?? one of the previous kernels work ok...03:17
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Innomeni'll still be here03:17
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Innomendiffrent machine03:17
heguruInnomen: lols sure :)03:17
zhanx!compile03:17
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:17
vsayikirandoes anyone know how infrared port work?03:17
heguruInnomen: use Ctrl+X and then N to close then without saving03:17
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heguruInnomen: and reboot03:17
Innomenhey heguru03:17
heguruInnomen: yeah03:18
Innomencan you update atompngn on the nature of the problem and the basic steps we've tried?03:18
Innomeni dont recall it well enough to explain03:18
heguruInnomen: sure03:18
vsayikiranheguru: how to use infrared port does it require any drivers03:18
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atompngnwth is a ringer?03:18
heguruatompngn: he's getting error 22 when trying to boot03:18
heguruatompngn: three hard disks03:19
heguruatompngn: two PATA onr SATA03:19
heguruatompngn: grub installed on PATA03:19
heguruatompngn: / on SATA03:19
Innomena ringer is an expert hired from out of town to win a competiton03:19
atompngnok, is /boot on a different part?03:19
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heguruatompngn: no its on SATA as well03:19
Innomenits like bringing babe ruth to a little league game :P it was a compliment03:19
Innomenwell now i'm not getting the grub menu03:19
Innomenit just goes straight to error 2203:20
Innomeni dont understand03:20
Innomennothing changed03:20
heguruInnomen: well try again, maybe you missed it :D03:20
trogdorInnomen: try using live cd to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:20
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ikoniaInnomen because you've borked your grub install now03:20
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Innomenlol03:20
Innomenof course i have03:20
ikoniatrogdor that won't work if he's not getting the menu up03:20
Innomenlet me boot form the cd again and i'll go fix it03:20
trogdorikonia: maybe he disabled the menu?..03:20
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ikoniatrogdor no, he's just borked the install03:21
Innomeni didnt make any changes03:21
Innomenat least i thgouth i didnt03:21
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heguruInnomen: did you change the menu.lst03:21
heguruInnomen: i don't remember you changing it03:21
Innomennot intentionally03:21
Innomenwe just oepned stuff to see if the paths matched up03:21
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Innomenthe uuids and such03:21
IndyGunFreaklol... not *intentionally*03:21
Innomen:P03:21
IndyGunFreaki guess i'll ask again, wouldn't super grub disk be really good in this situation to reinstall grub, and hopefully detect ubuntu, windows, etc?03:22
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heguruInnomen: try to boot to LiveCD and then from the boot menu select boot from 1st hard disk03:22
Innomeni'll say it again i'll try whatever03:22
heguruInnomen: see if you get grub menu this time03:22
Innomenits already booting into the live cd03:22
barziniikonia: did you see my response?03:22
ikoniabarzini no, sorry I didn't03:22
Innomenyou want me to force it? or is there nothing i should eb doing in teh livecd03:22
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Innomeni ask cus it takes awhile to boot into it03:22
vsayikirandoes anyone know how to use infrared port03:23
Innomenopky sure03:23
atompngnInnomen: did they check to see if you're windows part is marked with a boot flag?03:23
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Innomenhow would i check?03:23
IndyGunFreakits a conspiracy03:23
heguruInnomen: well, i don't want you to boot the LiveCD Ubuntu, on the first screen before the LiveCD starts loading, there is the option of booting from the first hard disk03:23
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Innomenso no03:23
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Innomenno grub menu03:23
ikoniaInnomen: fdisk /dev/sdc03:23
LjLvsayikiran: not really, but i know you should install the 'irda-utils' package and edit /etc/default/irda-utils03:23
Innomenstraight ot error 2203:23
atompngnInnomen: You'd have to use a linux compatible fdisk program03:24
LjL!irda > vsayikiran    (vsayikiran, see the private message from Ubotu)03:24
Innomenbooting back into the live cd03:24
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Innomeni'm doing all this from ubunutu03:24
Dan__hey sup guys im having issues running the ubuntu cd to install it03:24
atompngnInnomen: so you can get ubuntu booted?03:24
ikoniaInnomen: ubuntu has fdisk03:24
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Innomenyea from the cd :)03:24
atompngnInnomen: just not your windows partition?03:24
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Innomenyea i know, i used sudo fdisk -l earlier to display the drives03:24
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Innomenno, nothing will boot from the HD03:25
heguruInnomen: ok hold on, you're not getting it. Put the LiveCD in drive, when the live cd boots, BEFORE it starts loading, you get the menu with one last option saying boot from Hard disk03:25
Innomenonly the cd03:25
atompngnInnomen: so your bootloader menu, won't boot *anything*03:25
barziniikonia: here you go  :I don't know how to tell here is a snippit  Depends: gnome-core (= 1:2.12.2.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: epiphany-browser (>= 1.8.3-2) but it is not going to be installed.... I'll wait my turn03:25
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vsayikiranLjL: does your solutiion work , did you try yourself03:25
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Innomenheguru: yes i got that, and still the grub menu is now missing03:25
Innomeni did both03:25
ikoniabarzini Hmmm looks like itrs trying to ask for new versions for your current install03:25
Dan__i get a "/bin/sh:cant access tty;job control turned off(initramfs) "03:25
Innomeni know what you were haveing me do03:25
ikoniabarzini you may be better doing a clean install than trying to clean up03:25
LjLvsayikiran: it's not a "solution". it's just installing the standard Linux IrDA stack utils.03:25
Innomenno it will not boot anything03:26
LjLvsayikiran: what is certain is that nothing *will* work if you don't install that.03:26
heguruInnomen: yeah so your grub menu ain't working anymore. perfect!03:26
Innomenwhen ubuntu options are selected it says cannot find parition error 22 and when xp is selected it says error 13 something about formatting being wrong03:26
Innomenyea lol03:26
heguruInnomen: it really is your cat's ghost!03:26
Innomeni munged it up just looking at it apprently03:26
barziniikonia: ok so  how do I assist it03:26
Innomeni know i told you guys lol03:26
Innomenshe's SO pissed at me :P03:26
LjLvsayikiran: and, no, i've had many problems with my IrDA, including not being able to transfer files via OBEX. however, if you don't install irda-utils, you're *guaranteed* not to be able to use IrDA at all.03:26
ikoniaInnomen carefull on the language03:26
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Innomensry03:27
ikoniabarzini as I said, you may find it easier to re-install than downgrade everything03:27
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vsayikiranok03:27
murlidharmy automatic update is not working well it says Software index is broken03:27
murlidharIt is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.03:27
heguruInnomen: you can quick fix your grub by downloading super grub disk03:27
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Innomenstill laoding the cd03:27
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Innomenoky03:27
vsayikiranLjL: which laptop model are you using03:27
heguruInnomen: instead of going into the live cd and all03:28
barziniikonia: when you say re-install do you mena dump my existing work and reinstall the entire os ?03:28
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Innomenthis should be intresting03:28
ikoniabarzini yup03:28
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LjLvsayikiran: i'm not using a laptop. i've got a USB dongle.03:28
heguruInnomen: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/03:28
Innomeni'll ahve to dl here and then move it over and burn it form within the live cd03:28
Dan__hello03:28
barziniikonia: Yikes!03:28
Innomenbecause unless i can get this machine to boot i dont have a burner handy03:28
heguruInnomen: well you can boot it on a Floppy or USB disk as well03:28
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Innomenoh peaches03:29
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Innomenoky let me dl and install this03:30
FF29so03:30
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FF29what does /bin/sh:cant access tty; job control turned off03:30
FF29mean03:30
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murlidharYou have 1 broken package on your system!03:31
murlidharUse the "Broken" filter to locate it.03:31
murlidharwhat do i do now03:31
vsayikiranLjL: i dont have this file in my pc "/etc/default/irda-utils"03:32
fyrestrtrmurlidhar: run synaptic and choose the broken filter.03:32
SprogWhat channel should I be on for help with Gutsy/Compiz?03:32
FF29um... what do u mean a broken package??03:32
murlidharfyrestrtr: how?03:32
fyrestrtrmurlidhar: by clicking on 'Broken'03:32
benzs_ssprog: #compiz and #ubuntu+103:32
SprogThanks Ben03:32
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FF29can you guys even see what im typing03:33
ikoniayes03:33
FF29ok03:33
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zuzzarell19ciao03:33
zuzzarell19!list03:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:33
atlfalcons866how can i use ext403:33
ikoniaatlfalcons866 you can't03:34
atlfalcons866why03:34
ikoniaatlfalcons866 doesn't exist yet03:34
LjLvsayikiran: you should have it *after* installing 'irda-utils'03:34
atlfalcons866o03:34
vsayikiranLjL: ok03:34
Innomen In order to use this archive you will have to run a linux or a linux live cd. Identify your usb pendrive device. (E.g. it is called /dev/sdc) Untar the file in the usb so that you see the folder boot in it. Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync03:34
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murlidharfyrestrtr: when i open synaptic it says it is running and i can't see in processess03:34
Innomeni havethe boot folder on the usb drive03:34
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Innomenis it wanting me to paste that command into a temrinal and hit enter or is there short hand i'm missing03:35
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Innomenlike whats the $ mean at the front?03:35
fyrestrtrmurlidhar: log out and log back in03:35
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murlidharbrb03:35
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fyrestrtrInnomen: $ is the prompt03:35
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Innomenoky03:35
trogdorikonia: is that your test site? http://www.ikonia.co.uk/03:35
ikoniatrogdor no03:35
ikoniadidn't even know that existed03:36
trogdorikonia: oh it looked kinda kool so thought I'd ask03:36
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Innomenbash: syntax error near unexpected token `('03:36
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ikoniatrogdor nope, nothing to do with me03:36
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ikoniaand it does look handy03:36
Innomeni love it when things make assumptions03:36
FF29so what does  "/bin/sh:cant access tty; job control turned off" mean03:36
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heguruInnomen: what did you type?03:36
Innomen"sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync"03:37
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mooperWhere can I get help on setting up my dual screen ubuntu machine? Im having problems understanding what I need to o03:37
ikoniaInnomen hd3 won't exist03:37
ikoniaInnomen you've only get 3 drives03:37
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Innomenno no03:37
mooperand the howto's dont seem to be working too welll03:37
ikoniamooper #xorg03:37
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Innomendiffrent machine i'm trying pt prepare a bootable usb drive for the supergrub app03:37
ikoniaInnomen I see03:37
Innomenbecause this machine dosent have aburner03:37
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barziniwhat grouping does gnome fall under in the lists of installed packages such as admin,base,devel doc stc. I am looking in apitude for the package but can't find it03:38
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Innomenhttp://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download#usb03:38
Innomenyou wanna help me with it?03:38
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ikoniahappy to help03:38
ikoniaalthough I don't rate that product03:38
Innomeni dont understand what they mean by "Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync"03:38
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murlidharfyrestrtr: thnks now it's working my comical application was broken03:38
ikoniaInnomen its an example command03:38
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Innomenoky03:39
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Innomeni'm not getting the example03:40
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Innomenand theyre is no explanation of what that command does03:40
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Innomenso i ahve no way of understanding the syntax03:40
barziniInnomen good luck. thanks ikonia later!03:40
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Innomenthanky barzini :)03:40
ikoniaInnomen its writing a boot sector to your usb stick03:40
Innomenahhh03:40
WoetWhy is my screen resolution maximum 1024 x 800? I want it bigger.03:40
Innomenso i need ot find out what my usb drive is first03:41
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heguruInnomen: back, well yes03:41
heguruInnomen: where did you extract the files?03:41
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Innomen/dev/sdb103:41
Innomeni put them on the usb stick03:41
therapyWoet: you can change that in xorg.conf03:42
Innomen/dev/sdb1 is the jump drive03:42
Innomenso hold on03:42
heguruInnomen: ok03:42
WoetAnd where do i find xorg.conf ?03:42
therapyWoet: /etc/X11/03:42
kane77Woet, /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:42
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heguruInnomen: don't type sdb1 instead only sdb03:42
Woetthanks03:42
Innomen"robing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.03:43
Innomen"03:43
Innomenprobing*03:43
heguruInnomen: booting from USB?03:43
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Innomeni'm preparing too03:43
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fbnhi, what is the default DB, user and pass on a postgresql installation on ubuntu?03:44
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Innomenhere is what i'm doing to run super grub from a jump drive because i cant burn a cd03:44
InnomenIn order to use this archive you will have to run a linux or a linux live cd. Identify your usb pendrive device. (E.g. it is called /dev/sdc) Untar the file in the usb so that you see the folder boot in it. Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync03:44
Innomenfrom http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download#usb03:44
Innomenwhew03:44
heguruInnomen: eys03:44
Innomen:P03:44
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heguruInnomen: yes, just replace sdc with your usb drive03:45
atompngnheguru: wouldn't hd2 be mapped to his sdb; rather than hd3?03:45
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Innomeni still dont under stand03:46
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Innomenso knowing that just jump drive is /dev/sdb1 and i'm now at the grub prompt what should i type?03:46
adlisyakirhai03:46
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Innomenyou'll only have to do that for me once03:46
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heguruInnomen: are you sure your usb is sdb1?03:46
adlisyakir/list03:46
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adlisyakirhahaha03:47
adlisyakirnice.. i'm using ubuntu.. now03:47
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adlisyakir:)03:47
Innomenaccording to sudo fdisk -l its the only fat32 drive03:47
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adlisyakirthank for everyone which help me befire03:47
heguruInnomen: ok good03:47
adlisyakirthank for everyone which help me before03:47
Innomeni'm thinking so03:47
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Innomenso, now what?03:47
Innomeni dont undestand the short hand03:48
adlisyakirhye.. how can i get something like yahoo messager to run on ubuntu03:48
Innomeni dont know wherer the exmaple ends and the real command begins03:48
heguruInnomen: one min03:48
Innomenoky03:48
pixlanyone know how to turn off dvd drive on my laptop to save power?03:48
Grim76adlisyakir: use gaim pidgin or kopete03:48
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papayaHi, is is possible to to download EclipseIDE for C/C++Developers and EclipseIDE for JavaDevelopers and extract them into the same folder to use them both ?03:49
adlisyakirGrim76 : how i can get it? can u get the code for terminal03:49
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Innomenyou can search it in add remove03:49
Innomenupper left applications03:49
Grim76adlisyakir: You probably have one of them already installed03:49
Innomenits at the bottom of the list03:49
Innomenyea it comes with gaim built in03:49
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adlisyakiryeah... i will try it now.. wait03:50
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fbnhas anybody installed postgesql on ubuntu? how can I connect to the database with psql ?03:50
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heguruInnomen: ok you are at the grub prompt?03:51
Innomenyes03:51
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akeemhi03:51
heguruInnomen: type: device (hd3) /dev/sdb03:51
^LadyVaMpIrKa^:) hello!03:51
tichis it possible to make sleep and hibernate work with nvidia?03:51
heguruInnomen: you ran grub with sudo right?03:51
heguruInnomen: sudo grub03:51
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Innomenyes i did03:51
akeemhow ur day03:52
Innomencommand input back to prompt03:52
heguruInnomen: ok good03:52
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heguruInnomen: type: root (hd3,0)03:52
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Innomencommand input back to prompt03:52
akonkwamubagwaHello! I'm using xmms-shell and I would like to know wher I can find a list of the comands I can use via the terminal03:53
heguruInnomen: then: setup (hd3)03:53
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heguruInnomen: then quit03:53
shearn89akonkwamubagwa: try "man xmms-shell"03:53
akeemgood day lady03:53
Innomenok03:53
heguruInnomen: on the prompt type: sudo sync03:53
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heguruInnomen: now reboot and configure your bios to boot from USB03:53
oasisI can't stand any more03:53
shearn89oasis: ?03:53
Innomenboth done03:53
oasisyes03:53
Innomencool03:54
oasisI am a new learner03:54
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shearn89oasis: can't stand what?03:54
oasisha,i just make a joke03:54
vmlinuz1hi 4 all03:54
adlisyakirhye.. how to update my ubuntu03:54
adlisyakir?03:54
akeemis there any sexy lady in the room today03:54
oasisI am a new linux learner03:54
vmlinuz1why thouchpad don't works? http://rafb.net/p/etCesS83.html03:54
heguru!ot | akeem03:54
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ubotuakeem: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:54
shearn89adlisyakir: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal.03:54
akeemwat up03:55
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heguru!ohmy | akeem03:55
ubotuakeem: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.03:55
akeemyeah'] 03:55
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oasissorry,I must go now03:55
akonkwamubagwashearn89:  It doesn't seem to help, it does not describe any commands to play/pause or for volume control , or to pick a song, etc.03:55
vmlinuz1please help me .. :(03:55
Innomenok suprer grub botted03:55
akeemwat new03:55
Innomenbooted03:55
shearn89akonkwamubagwa: okay. try "xmms-shell --help"03:55
king_belgium?03:55
Innomenreading03:55
heguruInnomen: ok03:55
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vmlinuz1i've done apt-get install tpconfig but nothins03:56
vmlinuz1any ideas?03:56
vmlinuz1*nothing03:56
king_belgium?03:56
IndyGunFreaklol, i see you all finally tried my super grub idea..lol03:56
Innomeni've goty a menu now03:56
akeemheguru u want to chat03:56
shearn89vmlinuz1: what do you mean nothing? are you back at the commadn prompt?03:56
Innomenanyone have an idea what i should be doing or should i experiment?03:56
vmlinuz1shearn89: no, thouchpad still don't works very well03:56
king_turkish people here03:56
heguruInnomen: you selected the language?03:56
vmlinuz1http://rafb.net/p/etCesS83.html <-- here errors shearn8903:56
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: i've fumbled through grub, but never knew what i wa doing.03:56
Innomenyea03:57
akeempick me then03:57
heguruInnomen: Next select Gnu/Linux03:57
akonkwamubagwashearn89:  It gives me the same description as in the man pages. thanx anyways for the help03:57
shearn89vmlinuz1: okay hold on.03:57
Innomenoky selected03:57
heguruInnomen: next Fix Boot of Gnu/Linux03:57
Innomeni now see fix boot etc03:57
king_someone want to date for tonight in belgium03:57
akeemany lady there that is single03:57
xiaujuintri_imut@yahoo.com03:57
shearn89vmlinuz1: what laptop are you using?03:57
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Innomenoky03:58
vmlinuz1shearn89: acer aspire 571003:58
Innomenselected03:58
shearn89!ot | king_03:58
ubotuking_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:58
ikonia!offtopic >akeem03:58
heguruInnomen: you have to select the partition where you originally installed grub03:58
ikonia!offtopic >king_03:58
Innomenoky03:58
Innomenonly two options03:58
akeemyeah03:58
king_yes of course shearn03:58
heguruInnomen: what are the two options?03:58
Innomenthe sata and the windows install03:59
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Innomeni did the sata03:59
heguruInnomen: i believe your mbr is on the Windows Disk?03:59
king_i am from gent an you03:59
ikoniaheguru they are the same disk03:59
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LaxHello. Anyone would know how to change permissions on my sdcard? i cant write to the card :(03:59
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ikonia!offtopic > king_03:59
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Innomenyes probably03:59
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Innomenlet me go back03:59
heguruInnomen: oh yeah ok03:59
heguruInnomen: so let it fix now and reboot04:00
baggleshi. how do i get the list of packages that have been requested to be installed... i mean a list excluding packages that are just installed because they're dependencies....04:00
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shearn89vmlinuz1: does this work - http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/acer_aspire_5601AWLMi.html#synaptics04:01
Innomenguess what, error 2204:01
xiaujuin_imut@yahoo.com04:01
akonkwamubagwadoes anyone here know how to use xmms via command line?04:01
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empempi can't get my compiz dektop to look so cool as they are in the youtube videos04:01
heguruInnomen: without the grub menu?04:01
Innomenwithout the menu04:01
empempis there one program that can change all the settings tha i need?04:01
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empempinstead of using different programs04:01
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wastrelhi04:01
Picixiaujuin: ?04:01
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heguruikonia: any idea if grub is installed on his SATA dis or PATA?04:01
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heguru*disk04:01
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ikonia15:21 < hegur sata04:02
ikoniaheguru sata sorry04:02
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ikoniaheguru its a 140g sata disks with his windows and ubuntu partition on04:02
ikoniaheguru the other two idea disks are encypted04:02
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Innomenand invisable nothing sees them except windows04:03
Innomennot even the live cd04:03
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Innomeni'll deal with that later04:03
Innomenlol04:03
ikoniaInnomen if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" do you get anything back ?04:03
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rowdyI lost admin privileges yesterday when i was trying to add myself to vboxusers group...i am unable to sudo..lost sound..admin menu doesnt show04:03
LjLbaggles: cat  /var/lib/apt/extended_states04:03
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Innomenis there anything in this boot and tools menu i could use?04:03
rowdywhat are the default groups i shd add myself to04:04
Innomeni'd have to boot back into the live cd to check04:04
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kyjaWOW !! follow this if you like its for ubuntu forrum https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/230204:04
Innomenghimmie a minute04:04
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heguruInnomen: ok04:04
bagglesi don't have that file, ljl. maybe i should say this is breezy.04:04
rowdyany idea04:04
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Innomenbooting into live cd04:04
LjLbaggles: oh.04:04
atlfalcons866can i use reiserfs404:04
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baggleshrm04:05
bagglesmust be somewhere04:05
jribrowdy: i am in (not all default): jrib adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data src video plugdev users netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin kvm davfs2 gnomedev vboxusers04:05
Innomenhey ikonia just for education what are you trying to accomplish04:05
LjLbaggles: for the record, breezy is not supported anymore. anyway, breezy doesn't keep a record of which files were installed by you, and which were installed automatically (unless you're an aptitude user). the best you could do - but i'm unsure how - is to see which packages aren't dependencies of anything else that's installed.04:05
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bagglesack. ok thanks ljl.04:06
doktoreasanyone knows how enable 1680x1050 on a Intel video card?04:06
IndyGunFreakkyja: doesn't work for me04:06
LjLbaggles: you could perhaps do it with deborphan or debfoster, somehow04:06
rowdyany idea how to add myself those...04:06
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rowdyneed to boot in linux single rt04:06
kyjaoh. the link? or the plugin?04:06
wangHi, all. Now I'am having a happy time with  Dapper on my IBM R50e. would you please tell me if I can have a smooth upgrade simply by replacing *dapper* with *gusty* in my source list? thanks04:06
Laxhow to make sdcard writeable in ubuntu?04:06
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IndyGunFreakkyja: the plugin... it seems to have installed correctly, but i see no ubuntu men04:06
IndyGunFreakmenu04:06
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rowdyis it usermod -G <the list  u gave> <my user name>04:07
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kyjaoh: :( perhaps it is a menu button to add or something I will check it out further and let you know.04:07
IndyGunFreakkyja: i don't see a menu button to add either.04:07
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LjLbaggles: i think   debfoster -n --show-orphans   might be it.04:08
jribrowdy: no, you need to check which groups exist04:08
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rowdyjrib: ofcourse04:08
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Nallemanhi all. these n00b question again. how to enable java and mp3 support. thanx04:10
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Innomenikonia: yes it does, it comnes back with one of my 300s04:10
shearn89Nalleman: there's a thing about it in the wiki pages, because they're proprietary.... hold on.04:10
shearn89!mp304:10
Tomcat_Nalleman: Install ubuntu-restricted-extras after enabling multiverse repo04:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:10
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rowdyjrib: after checking, is it usermod -G <the list> <my user name>04:11
Innomendid ya catch that ikonia?04:11
ikoniaInnomen: thats good news, ubuntu can see your disks04:11
minimecWhere do I change the default icon of a mimetype. After installation realPlayer changed the default icons for audio.04:11
Innomenindeed04:11
Innomeni musta have just over looked thenm or nt know what i was looking at04:11
jribrowdy: yes, that is right.  In the future use -a with usermod or use adduser when adding groups04:11
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rowdyoh04:11
rowdyThanks!! jrib04:11
Innomenso now that i'm back in the live cd, where were we? lol04:11
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Innomensince the menu got hosed, should i try to fix that?04:11
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rowdywill let u know if it worked fine04:12
adlisyakiri can play mp3 file in ubuntu?04:12
dgjones!mp3 | adlisyakir04:13
ubotuadlisyakir: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:13
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shearn89beaten to it...04:13
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Innomenits easier to just type yes04:13
deadlockHello everyone.  How can I make it so that my Mint install can see all of my shared drives on my server. I have 5, it onlyt sees 4. My XP install inside Vbox sees all 5 :-(04:13
Innomenyes you vcan play mp3s04:13
kyjaadlisyakir, yes but the ability is not out of the box because it is restricted drivers.04:13
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e\ectro_For those that have Ubuntu talking to their OpenLDAP servers...  did you have to create all the local ubuntu groups in ldap with their low GID and add users? Or is there a better approach?04:13
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shearn89deadlock: one of the drives might be ntfs, in which case you'll have to install ntfs-3g04:14
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Innomeni'm gunna start over i think04:14
shearn89!ntfs | deadlock04:14
ubotudeadlock: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:14
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iamtimI just installed Feisty i386. It installed fine, but when i enabled the ATI driver and rebooted it stops at a black screen instead of starting X04:17
iamtimany ideas?04:17
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m0nk3ysh1n3I've never had that problem. Did you check the forum out?04:17
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Innomenare there any objections to me starting over?04:17
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iamtimi looked at the forum, nothing suggested there helped04:18
Innomeni've learned a great deal and i'm content with the situation04:18
noelferreirawhere can i find this lib file: libcrypto.so-0.9.704:18
brownie17cna anyone tell me why the only player that can even play .RM files is mplayer and when it does the audio is always out of sync with the video?04:18
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Nalleman ok, so the mp3 issue should be able to fix with w32codecs, but what about java?04:18
ikoniaInnomen its certainly an unusual situation04:18
Innomenif ireproduce it i'll be back04:19
Picinoelferreira: libssl-dev04:19
kyjaok the forrum plugin is a right click contextual menu, also the preferences of it can be changed in the menu: tools>addons for adding a menu to toolbar04:19
Innomenyou should sleep lol04:19
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Innomeni have errands to run04:19
noelferreirathank soici04:19
sonetremy installation failed at 94% during grub install! Is there anything else installed AFTER that?04:19
Innomenbut before i go i'm gunna start a reinstall04:19
ikoniaInnomen ok04:19
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Innomenthank you for your help ikonia and heguru and others04:19
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noelferreiraPici, i have libssl-dev alreay installed04:20
noelferreirashoul i reinstall it Pici ?04:20
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Starcraftmazterhey guys04:21
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ikoniaInnomen your welcome, I'm just sad it was such a pain to work with04:21
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Innomeni'm looking at the gnome parition tool04:21
Starcraftmazterin 7.10, with compiz, when I rotate desktop, the taskbar still have the applications from the 1st desktop in each othe the others - anyone know how to fix that?04:21
Innomenhow do i remerge the freespace with the old windows partition?04:21
Picinoelferreira: It depends what you are trying to do.  fy, 0.9.8 is the libssl version in feisty.04:21
PiciStarcraftmazter: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.04:22
noelferreirayes Pici that's it04:22
ikoniaInnomen ghgs a bit tricky04:22
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sparsecanyone running gutsy with a rt2500 based wireless?04:22
ikoniaInnomen you can have corruption doing that04:22
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noelferreiraso can i install version 0.9.7 ?04:22
ikonia!gusty >sparsec04:22
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Picinoelferreira: Why do you want a lower version?04:22
sparsecikonia: sorry, thought this is #ubuntu+104:22
Starcraftmazterright04:22
noelferreirathat's because a script needs that lib Pichu010204:22
noelferreirathat's because a script needs that lib Pici04:22
m0nk3ysh1n3#ubuntu+104:22
m0nk3ysh1n3?04:23
Innomeni figured it out04:23
Innomenthank you04:23
Starcraftmazterm0nk3ysh1n3, it's another channel04:23
atlfalcons866how can i change ext3s journal mode04:23
noelferreiraPici,  error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:23
deadlockAny ideas on why I can see all my shared drives on my server inside VBOX with aXP install, but I cant on my main linux OS.04:23
Picinoelferreira: What are you trying to compile?04:23
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brownie17i just got the error 'the playback of this video requires a RealVideo 4.0 codec which is not installed' where can i get this04:24
noelferreiranothing, it is already compiled, it is ragegast running script.04:24
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sonetreubuntu installation failed at 94% during grub install! Is there anything else installed AFTER that?04:24
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ldradaFUCK!04:24
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doktoreasanyone can please take a look at this? http://rafb.net/p/si8sIP92.html04:24
ikonia!ops04:24
ubotuHelp! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici04:24
ikonialdrada totally uncalled for04:25
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doktoreasusing the gui i haven't got that resolution04:25
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jrib!langauge | ldrada04:25
ubotuldrada: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:25
ldradaikonia: This is the biggest IRC channel I've ever been on, except for #emule...04:25
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noelferreiraPici, can i just installerd o.0.7 librarys without mess up the 0..9.8 ones?04:25
ikonialdrada so ?04:25
ldradaSorry, I meant to say "Oh, darn" :)04:25
ikonialdrada that language is TOTALLY uncalled for04:25
Innomenlol04:25
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NallemanWell, now i have installed w32codecs but amarok clames that no mp3 support is added. any hints?04:25
Innomenoverwhelming isnt it04:25
ldradaVery overwhelming.04:26
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Picinoelferreira: Theres no reason that it should specifically require the .7 libraries.  The .8 ones should work just fine.04:26
brownie17i just got the error 'the playback of this video requires a RealVideo 4.0 codec which is not installed' where can i get this?04:26
Innomenmost are lurkers04:26
brownie17i have googled it but have found no answers04:26
Innomenlike 20 people talk at any given time04:26
noelferreiraPici, the question is if i can have both?04:26
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ldradaTotally insane. How can you even keep track of any conversation?04:26
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noelferreiraok04:26
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noelferreiraproblem resolved Pici04:27
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Innomenyou get usta it really quick actually04:27
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Tomcat_ldrada: By prefixing msgs with a nickname.04:27
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Innomenjust mentally filter out join/parts04:27
Innomenbbl04:27
ldradaTomcat_: Makes sense.04:27
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volantareshello all04:27
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hammer123how do i install realplayer using apt-get?04:28
LjL!real > hammer123    (hammer123, see the private message from Ubotu)04:28
hammer123thanks04:28
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brownie17!Real > brownie1704:28
king_hello04:28
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king_hallo ubuntu04:28
LjLking_: hi. do you have a support question?04:29
king_di bonjour oo  micro04:29
LjLking_: a support question in english, specifically.04:29
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ikoniaking_ are you going to start talking random again, or do you have a question related to ubuntu04:29
king_i like to chat wanne date for tonight04:29
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ikoniasame again then04:29
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volantaresah hi ikonia04:29
ikoniathanks LjL04:29
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ikoniavolantares: ahh hi04:29
volantaresikonia: how's things04:30
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ikoniavolantares: not great today, I'm exausted and want to go to bed04:30
ikoniavolantares: apologies for keep missing you, I finished the tests04:30
Innomeni wore her out04:30
volantaresikonia: yeah? how did it go?04:30
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ikoniavolantares: there is no way to mount the windows volumes as the windows stripe is contained within the disk, and assembled by the OS, so without windows booting the stripe never gets built04:31
hammer123LjL - i dun understand the description on how to install real player...04:31
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volantaresikonia: oh ok.. well that's a problem04:31
LjLhammer123: which part?04:31
rowdyjrib: it worked..everythings bac to normal04:32
volantaresikonia: I think I'll dump the raid04:32
rowdyjrib: thanks a bunch04:32
ikoniavolantares, sorry about that, I did some good tests though and worked with a guy who is very strong with windows and we couldn't assemble the drives without the windows OS being booted04:32
hammer123everything...can u just tell me the command to install it?04:32
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neopsycheHello ubunturs04:32
joe-fI'm running ubuntu fiesty, and am trying to downgrade to php5.1* from php5.2 - How can I check what versions of php are available with apt-get?04:32
neopsycheis feisty the best release?04:33
LjLhammer123: no. there is not a single command, besides. please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods carefully and come back with a *specific* question on the part you don't understand.04:33
ikoniajoe-f apt-cache and the policy option.04:33
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LjL!best > neopsyche    (neopsyche, see the private message from Ubotu)04:33
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ganes1ikonia:my 'D' drive is write protected...how can i make it writable??04:33
volantaresdoes anyone know when the latest build will come out in october?04:33
neopsycheok04:33
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neopsycheLjL04:33
ikoniaganes1 is it ntfs ?04:33
brownie17what is the prefix for system wide symbolic links?04:33
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ikoniavolantares 18th04:34
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neopsycheCan i run programs for linux off a seperate hard drive04:34
LjLbrownie17: prefix? system wide links?04:34
neopsyche?04:34
ikoniabrownie17 how do you have a system wide symbolic link ?04:34
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ikonianeopsyche yes04:34
neopsycheIn other words.. have main linux install .. on one hard drive and run programs off another04:34
neopsychehmm04:34
neopsychecool04:34
lauriexxxhi guys, anybody got a good chan for jahshaka?04:34
brownie17ikonia, LjL, i have no idea what i'm talking about. installing realplayer it asked for it or something. it suggest /usr04:34
ikonianeopsyche yes, you can04:34
LjLneopsyche: doesn't sound like a good idea. you can certainly put /usr as a partition on a separate drive.04:34
neopsycheis it easy to do04:34
l123ehi, i have an old laptop, i want to install ubuntu, but i can't boot from cd or USB, it can only boot from floppy,04:34
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neopsycheI have an 8gig drive04:34
ikonialauriexxx not here04:34
neopsychebig enough for ubuntu04:34
l123ecan anyone help me make a floppy boot disc for ubuntu04:35
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LjLbrownie17: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods for installing realplayer.04:35
neopsychebut i have another 250gig on the way04:35
brownie17ikonia, LjL " configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : .y."04:35
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neopsychewould it seriously hurt my system to run the ubuntu install off the 804:35
brownie17LjL, did read it, it didn't go inot specifics on this04:35
ikoniabrownie17 ahh the real player script04:35
neopsycheand have programs on the 350?04:35
Vissuirc.freenode.net04:35
Laxwhats the name of the app that display system stats on the desktop??04:35
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neopsyche*25004:35
KetzuHey guys, which package do I need to install to get "javac" ? O_o04:35
ikonianeopsyche it can be done a few ways04:35
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ikoniaKetzu jave development kit04:35
LjL!smartbootmanager > l123e    (l123e, see the private message from Ubotu)04:35
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neopsycheis it easier to just run everything off the main drive?04:35
ikonianeopsyche not really04:36
lauriexxxikonia: ok what about any program you could recomend for editing .avi?04:36
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LjLbrownie17, which method did you use to install?04:36
neopsychewhat is optimal for a system i want to use as multimedia/video editing.04:36
neopsychegigs?04:36
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ikonialauriexxx no idea04:36
volantaresikonia: so presuming i get rid of the RAID, what do you recommend as far as me designing my systems?04:36
brownie17LjL, downloaded the .bin from the website. i think i've got it sorted now. thanks for your help04:36
neopsycheikonia .. not easer to run off the main drive?04:36
ikonianeopsyche optimal ?04:36
ikonianeopsyche not really no,04:36
LjLneopsyche: the 8 gig drive is probably slow.04:36
neopsychewell....04:36
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neopsychewould it be ok to run the programs from a seperate drive04:36
neopsycheyeah04:36
LjLbrownie17, that seems like a bad idea though, why didn't you use the packages?04:36
neopsycheperhaps it is04:36
ikonianeopsyche thats fine04:36
neopsychelet me check04:36
LjL!enter04:37
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:37
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GNinejust tried my copy of Xubuntu 7.10 .  installation failure.  it just  hung up on a blank screen after the installation menu ,  tried 3 times.  even the OEM install option failed.  the "check for errors" option had returned no errors04:37
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neopsychewhere do i see how fast my drive is?04:37
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LjLneopsyche: sudo hdpartm -Tt /dev/whatever04:37
LjLhdparm even04:38
Laxno one knows how to get pc stats on the gnome desktop?04:38
volantaresGNine: hung or just remains blank? have you tried setting a vga mode?04:38
ganes1ikonia:ya..its ntfs04:38
doktoreashello everybody..the monitor resolution from preference is taken from xorg.conf ?04:38
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neopsychenaah... im using the live cd while chatting to you .. would it still pick it up?04:38
ikonia!ntfs-3g >ganes104:38
LjLneopsyche: why not04:38
volantaresGNine: I have a nvidia 8800 and I had to set a vga mode to begin with for it to boot04:38
Ketzuugh04:38
brownie17LjL, because i'm retarded04:38
GNinei booted fine .04:38
KetzuI simply cannot get SQLite working with java >.>04:38
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LjLneopsyche: use sdparm if the drive is called /dev/sdsomething, though, hdparm if it's called /dev/hdsomething04:38
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ganes1ikonia:I din't get u..04:39
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LjLbrownie17: that seems a bit extreme. just remember to *always* use a package when one is available, next time.04:39
neopsychehd.. command not found04:39
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volantaresGNine: btw, 7.10 questions should go to #ubuntu+104:39
ikoniaganes1 check the pm ubutu sent you04:39
GNinemaybe i should try the live cd version to update.04:39
LjLneopsyche: sudo apt-get install hdparm04:39
neopsycheI like xchat04:39
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neopsychelive cd doesnt come with xchat04:40
marcelaanyone knows a guide how to install plugins on Compiz-Fusion (I miss the cubecap plugin for example) ?04:40
qwerkusIs this the right place to ask for some help with ubuntu distros ?04:40
neopsychesure is04:40
GNinei know that, volantares , that wasnt a question either, it was a statement04:40
LjLqwerkus: it's called #ubuntu, my instinct says yes.04:40
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brownie17LjL, sure thing04:40
neopsychethis place is primarily for ubuntu though.. kubuntu etc... have their own channels04:40
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gerzonhi04:40
qwerkusk04:40
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surjahi04:41
gerzonhi surja04:41
qwerkusgot some problems with read-only partitions04:41
marcelaanyone knows a guide how to install plugins on Compiz-Fusion (I miss the cubecap plugin for example) ?04:41
surjagot problem with mounting a dvd04:41
FF29iv got an interesting problem when i go to install linux or just run the live install cd for that matter04:41
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FF29the splah screen comes up for a min then i get an error that read04:42
ganes1ya..thanks ikonia04:42
redguy_workhi04:42
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FF29"/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off04:43
atlfalcons866is it safe to install kde on top of gnome04:43
LjLNalleman: the w32codecs have nothing to do with playing mp304:43
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LjL!mp3 > Nalleman    (Nalleman, see the private message from Ubotu)04:43
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LjLNalleman: specifically, for amarok, you will need to install the libxine1-ffmpeg package04:43
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bpssoftHello04:43
NallemanLjL, thanx but i solved it04:43
gerzonanyone knows install saa7134 ..??04:43
bpssoftDoes Ubuntu have support for Tabblad PCs?04:43
volantaresit's easier to install linux second after vista, right?04:44
LjLi don't *think* so04:44
surjacan help with mounting a data dvd disc?04:44
LjLvolantares: yes04:44
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brownie17does anyone know if it's possible to use mencoder to make ipod compatible videos? the userdoc page only shows ffmpeg, but the videos i'm trying to convert aren't in an ffmpeg compatible format, and it's a pain to convert with mencoder to something ffmpeg can use, and then into something the ipod can use04:44
bpssoftAnd for touchscreen?04:44
GNineneopsyche, you should go read  help.ubuntu.com04:44
gerzonhi surja ... what is your problem..?04:44
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atlfalcons866#kubuntu04:44
FF29ok i give up04:44
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cyph3rwow04:45
LjLbpssoft: i can see there are drivers for some touchscreens.04:45
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surjaok i burned this data dvd using nero on win xp04:45
surjaits a sony dvd-r media04:45
bpssoftAlso for the ASUS R2H?04:45
LjL!find touchscreen | bpssoft04:45
surjathere are some data files and a divx movie04:45
ubotubpssoft: Package/file touchscreen does not exist in feisty04:45
surjaburned on a Liteon DVD writer04:45
neopsycheI like ubuntu... i think im going to install it on the 8 gig anyway :-)04:45
neopsyche;-)04:46
LjLbpssoft: well, there are some packages anyway. at least in gutsy.04:46
neopsycheanother question04:46
Innomenwhatsd does the "location for new partition" matter?04:46
bpssoftOk, that is the new version LjL?04:46
atlfalcons866is it safe to install kde on top of gnome04:46
LjLbpssoft: it's not yet released.04:46
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neopsychecan i actually add a hard drive and just "detect hardware" after i have done the install?04:46
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surjanow when i use it on Ubuntu on an LG DVD writer, the disc isnt detected04:46
Piciatlfalcons866: If you mean KDE on a system that Gnome is on, then yes.04:46
atlfalcons866ok04:47
Piciatlfalcons866: There is already a metapackage for that too, called kubuntu-desktop04:47
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atlfalcons866will anything bad happen"04:47
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neopsycheis there an osx skin for gnome?04:47
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Piciatlfalcons866: Nope.04:47
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atlfalcons866because gnome is striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.04:47
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Picineopsyche: perhaps. check on http://gnome-look.org04:47
neopsychethanks pici04:48
gerzonuse  ----> sudo mount04:48
surjathe message that i get when i try to mount it from Filesystem is 'unable to mount media from drive' and 'There is probably no media in the drive'04:48
gerzonand parameters..04:48
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neopsycheis it easy to add a harddrive to an ubuntu install after already installed/? will it auto detect it?04:48
dgjonesLjL, was it "MagicTouch" you were looking for, i remember somebody looking at that when asking about a touch screen04:48
surjathe dvd disc works fine on win XP04:48
jfly_hi everyone04:48
FF29falcon couldnt u just use kubuntu04:48
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barbiei want grub to give me options to select OS directly, instead of showing a screen where it boots to default in 3 secs04:48
gerzonsurja ---------> use   ... mount04:48
atlfalcons866FF29: i want to try kubuntu04:49
surjaok..trying it04:49
neopsychewould be nice if there was an option to set what gui a user wishes to use.04:49
LjLdgjones: nope what i've seen is a few xorg drivers... specifically xserver-xorg-input-elo2300 xserver-xorg-input-evtouch xserver-xorg-input-palmax. don't know what magictouch is04:49
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dgjonesLjL, np, thought it was worth mentioning just in case04:49
surjagerzon -> this is what I get 'mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only'04:50
brownie17anyone heard of 2bppconv?04:50
LjLdgjones: ah yes, it's another driver. so bpssoft, the ones above, plus xserver-xorg-input-magictouch might be what you want.04:50
qwerkusi got into troubles after upgrade to kernel 2.6.20-15 (from 2.6.17-11)04:50
qwerkusevery partition seems to be mounted as read_only04:50
qwerkus(gives that error when i try to create a file)04:50
qwerkusalthough mount show some nice (rw) in its summary04:50
qwerkusany help would be appreciated...04:50
surjabut it still show any files04:50
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gerzonsurja ---------->  mount /dev/hdd  /media/cdrom004:50
atlfalcons866 will kbuntu 7.10 have apparmor or is that an ubuntu thing04:50
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surjagerzon -> trying it04:50
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gerzonsurja ->                sudo  mount /dev/hdd  /media/cdrom004:51
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qwerkusI know there was a similar thread on the forum, but can't recall the solution ...04:51
surjatrying it out04:51
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brownie17does anyone know if it is possible to make ipod compatible videos with mencoder?04:51
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gerzonwhat are you using ubuntu 7.04..?04:52
ikoniabrownie17 don't think so04:52
surjayes04:52
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jrib!ipod > brownie17 (read the private message from ubotu)04:52
hammer123what is hxplay?04:52
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surjagerzon -> this is what i get 'mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist'04:52
kyjawow I love that firefox ubuntu forrum plugin !!!!!!!!!!04:53
brownie17jrib, doesn't mention mencoder once04:53
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gerzonsurja ---->   insert your dvd....... and  later  in terminal .. write mount ....you will see04:53
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gerzonsurja --> you see the device ..... my dvd .. is /dev/hbb04:54
hammer123what other plugins i can install for playing real player video/audio in firefox besides realplayer's?04:54
Tomcat_hammer123: mozilla-mplayer I believe04:54
surjatrying it04:54
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hammer123ok let me try it04:55
vsayikiranwhy does output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address04:55
ZmaXHi all. If I open System Monitor in Ubuntu, why are there a lot of processes marked as "Stopped" ? Thanks :)04:55
jribbrownie17: it does tell you how convert videos though04:55
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brownie17jrib, yes thankyou, i know how to do that. ffmpeg is unsuitable for my purpose04:55
neopsycheso how do i add another harddrive in feisty?04:55
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address04:55
neopsychealso... how do i make my programs install to another hard drive?04:56
soundrayI'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?04:56
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neopsycheis it possible to have two linux installations?04:56
ikonianeopsyche yes04:56
neopsycheone to mess around with and possibly mess up...04:56
neopsycheand one for stability.04:56
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neopsycheso .. on grub it will say.. this or that installation?04:57
peepsalotwhen I log in to a shell, it now tells me I have new mail, but I don't even know what it's talking about.  I only use gmail04:57
neopsychelol04:57
neopsyche:mail04:57
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surjagerzon -> not getting any entry for the dvd drive04:57
neopsyche/server irc.blabber.net04:57
peepsalotand it pauses for a long time after telling me I have mail, before giving me the prompt04:57
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ZmaXikonia: can you help me?04:57
neopsychehmmm this irc client doesnt take commands from here.04:58
vsayikiranmagnetron: the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign pc belongs04:58
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ikoniaZmaX with what ?04:58
surjahow do i find which on is my dvd drive?04:58
peepsaloti tried to remove evolution packages recently cause I didn't think I needed any of them, could it be related to that?04:58
ZmaXikonia: If I open System Monitor in Ubuntu, why are there a lot of processes marked as "Stopped" ? Thanks :)04:58
ZmaXikonia: even old ones04:58
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qwerkusHi, all:04:58
qwerkusI got into troubles after upgrade to kernel 2.6.20-15 (from 2.6.17-11)04:58
qwerkusevery partition seems to be mounted as read_only04:58
qwerkus(gives that error when i try to create a file)04:58
qwerkusalthough mount show some nice (rw) in its summary04:58
qwerkusany help would be appreciated...04:58
gerzonsurja ---> find any word .... cdrom----  use mount04:58
atlfalcons866is 12Gb enough for ubuntu04:58
Tomcat_atlfalcons866: Yes.04:58
soundrayatlfalcons866: yes04:58
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surjaok04:58
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ikoniaZmaX some maybe swapped out04:58
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Tomcat_atlfalcons866: 5 GB will be enough if you don't have any personal data ;)04:59
ZmaXikonia: what I have to do in this case?04:59
surjain fstab, it is listed as scd0 ... do i use that with mount?04:59
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs04:59
Veinoris there any way to change the default size of the GNOME filepicker dialogs? When I open them, they're usually so small I can barely see anything. for example: http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd239/veinor/?action=view&current=Screenshot-SaveImage.png04:59
ikoniaZmaX nothing ?04:59
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atlfalcons866i have a / that 12GB and /home that 134Gb and /swap with 933MB04:59
soundrayZmaX: you don't have to do anything. Your machine is fine.04:59
Tomcat_atlfalcons866: Should easily be enough.04:59
gerzonsurja ---> example:   gerzon@gerzon-desktop:~$ mount04:59
gerzon/dev/hdb8 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)04:59
gerzonproc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)04:59
gerzonvarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)04:59
gerzonvarlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)04:59
gerzonprocbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)05:00
gerzonudev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)05:00
gerzondevshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)05:00
dgjones!paste | gerzon05:00
ubotugerzon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:00
gerzondevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)05:00
gerzonlrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)05:00
Veinorit's really annoying me because I have to resize it every single time.05:00
gerzon/dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw)05:00
gerzon/dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)05:00
atlfalcons866is it normal for ext3 to use 5% of my hdd05:00
gerzon/dev/hda2 on /media/hda2 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)05:00
gerzon/dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)05:00
gerzon/dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)05:00
gerzon/dev/hdb5 on /media/hdb5 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)05:00
gerzonbinfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)05:00
gerzon/dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)05:00
gerzongerzon@gerzon-desktop:~$05:00
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Pici!paste | gerzon05:00
ZmaXikonia: for example I had aptitude "swapped out" and I cannot run another one..05:00
sitaramdoes anyone know if there is a way to get the entire install DVD but in CD-sized chunks for people who don't have or can't use a DVD-writer? quick hints or pointers appreciated!05:00
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Picigerzon: Please use the pastebin next time!05:00
gerzonsurja --> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)05:00
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Tomcat_sitaram: What's the point? Just use the CD then. ;)05:00
surjaok..trying that05:01
gerzonok.... perdon me please .. i05:01
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ikoniaZmaX its probably not closed and miniised on your task bar05:01
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Tomcat_sitaram: If you need additional packages and the machines don't have net access, there are ways around that.05:01
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sitaramTomcat_, the thing is, I want to take pretty much the whole darn DVD to my dad's PC, but he has no connectivity, and no DVD-reader :-)05:01
ZmaXikonia: I was using only one bash05:01
david003hello. where can i see what version of ubuntu i am using?05:01
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bazziebhi there, what is the best web development software to use with UBUNTU??05:01
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LjL!version > david003    (david003, see the private message from Ubotu)05:01
sitaramand one CD wont do -- there's stuff I need from the net always!05:01
neopsychedoes ubuntu come with vlc standard?05:02
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aatahello all... i have a question. anyone interested?05:02
ikoniaZmaX kill the process05:02
__mikemHow long till the next version comes out?05:02
soundrayVeinor: you can use devilspie to automatically resize windows according to rules you define.05:02
LjLneopsyche: no, you have to install it. enable universe and  sudo apt-get install vlc 05:02
Pici!ask | aata05:02
ubotuaata: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:02
dgjones!anyone | aata05:02
ubotuaata: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:02
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs05:02
sitaramTomcat_, "take...to my dad's PC" is a one-night train trip away -- hence the need to take everything I can i one shot!05:02
soundraydavid003: cat /etc/lsb-release05:02
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Tomcat_sitaram: I wouldn't know any way... but synaptic can create scripts to download packages on a different PC.05:02
neopsycheaata.. people generally tell me to just ask the question when i say things like that.05:02
Tomcat_sitaram: Oh, all right...05:02
aataok... how do i find out if i have bluetooth enabled in feisty05:02
aata?05:02
Tomcat_sitaram: Is there an OS on the PC?05:02
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Veinorsoundray: ok, but it seems like this would be a setting somewhere, plus it'd be a pain to add a rule for 'all windows titled save image or load image or save document etc.'05:02
aatais there a utility of some sort?05:03
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ZmaXikonia: yes, but do you think that killing the process I solve the major problem that there are some processes "Stopped" or "swapped out"05:03
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Lorvijahiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?05:03
LjLaata: is the "bluetooth" package installed?  apt-cache policy bluetooth 05:03
skarhi, i'm running feisty on a core 2 duo, and my resolv.conf is getting overwritten, saying its managed by network-manager, but i've set the dns in network manager, and its in "/etc/network/interfaces" but its not loaded05:03
neopsycheaata .. probably, what do you want to use your blue tooth for?05:03
Veinorer, ok, nvm, this seems to be a firefox-only thing.05:03
sitaramTomcat_, yes, right now Mandriva05:03
dgjones!bluetooth | aata05:03
ubotuaata: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:03
skarif i set it manually in /etc/resolv.conf, dns works again, any fixes to this problem?05:03
hammer123cool...thanks Tomcat, mplayer works...05:03
Tomcat_hammer123: Great. :)05:03
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LjLskar: my *own* fix is removing network-manager and resolvconf. can't say it's a recommended fix.05:04
aatait says installed: none, LjL05:04
LjLaata: then  apt-get install bluetooth , and then follow the page you were given05:04
skarLjL: so u too faced the same/similar problem with their working properly?05:04
Tomcat_sitaram: In that case, use the "split" command to split the DVD into many chunks, transport them over on CDs, re-assemble them... and then mount it via loopback (so you don't need a DVD at all)05:04
bazziebwhat is the recomended web dev program i should use on UBUNTU??05:04
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mowenHi all - having problems installing to a notebook... I get past the Ubuntu launch screen and all goes black - I tried to press F6 to edit out the "splash screen" as someone on here advised but still doesn't work05:04
soundrayVeinor: this shouldn't be. Consider filing a bug05:04
Tomcat_bazzieb: I guess nvu is one.05:04
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soundray!bugs | Veinor05:04
ubotuVeinor: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:04
bazziebnvu?05:05
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LjLskar: yes. honestly, given my own setup (desktop computer, one single ethernet card, static configuration) i don't see the need for any of those packages.05:05
Bassxman1i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?05:05
bazziebwhere do i get it?05:05
jportbazzieb: Quanta+ is pretty good05:05
soundraymowen: how long have you waited at the black screen?05:05
ZmaXbazzieb: try also Geany or eclipse05:05
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dgjones!nvu | bazzieb05:05
aatamay i ask what exactly this bluetooth package does, LjL?05:05
ubotubazzieb: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)05:05
surjagerzon -> when i mount the drive from the terminal, the drive lights turn on and the it seems that the drive is mounting05:05
skarLjL: ok i'm going that way too then :) thanks for the help05:05
LjLaata: installs the bluetooth stack.05:05
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sitaramTomcat_, thanks -- that sounds like it would work, I think dad has enough plenty free disk anyway05:05
aataaah.05:05
neopsychewhat are you going to user the bluetooth for?05:05
mowena long time - for instance 5 minutes longer than it takes to finish loading Ubuntu on my desktop05:06
bazziebthanks guys, helpful as always05:06
Tomcat_sitaram: Problem is that when you install Ubuntu this way you'd still need an install CD and a partition on *some* hard drive for the DVD image.05:06
Tomcat_sitaram: But I can't think of another way.05:06
ZmaXbazzieb: for web developing I use Quanta Plus, it is fine :D05:06
surjabut when i double click the CD/DVD drive icon from the Filesystem, nothing happens05:06
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sitaramTomcat_, thats OK I can take an install CD along...05:06
soundraymowen: have you tried the Safe Graphics option?05:07
mowenyes05:07
mowenmaybe I didn't "edit" the splash properly05:07
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mowenI press F6 and just delete those words05:07
sitaramTomcat_, some time ago, when I was still on Mandriva, I know they had a set of 5 or 6 CD images, and you could concatenate them to make a DVD image!  Separately they would be CD's, combined, one dvd -- sounded awesome (and unbelievable)05:07
mowenThe couple words "yadda yadda splash"05:07
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Tomcat_sitaram: Might be possible. :)05:08
soundraymowen: try the F6, remove "quiet splash" and try vga=77105:08
mowenthen I hit enter05:08
Bassxman1i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?05:08
david003hello. how can i see what the F1-F12 buttons are assigned to?05:08
soundraymowen: it's also possible that it's not a graphics problem at all, in which case you should try inserting "noapic"05:08
sitaramTomcat_, yeah, I guess I was hoping :-)  Anyway your idea is probably the easiest for me in the time I have before my trip.05:08
mowenso I type "remove quiet splash"?05:08
sitaramTomcat_, thanks...05:08
mowenat F6 promt05:08
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aataLjL, this is funny because im pretty sure bluetooth is installed and available in vista on the same machine... however hcitool dev gives no devices... ideas?05:09
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soundraymowen: no, you do what you did before. Just hit the backspace key until you've deleted the words "quiet" and "splash". Then replace them with "vga=771", "noapic", or both.05:09
Tomcat_sitaram: Always. ;)05:09
david003hello. how can i see what the F1-F12 buttons are assigned to?05:09
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Bassxman1i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?05:10
soundraymowen: leave out the quote marks, I just typed those to show you where the entries begin and end.05:10
aatahelloo?\05:10
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psufanhey05:10
psufanis ntop on the livecd?05:10
soundray!patience | aata05:10
ubotuaata: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:10
umarzukiSystem > Preferences > Keyboeard Shortcuts05:10
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LjLaata: is that a USB dongle or built-in?05:11
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aataim sorry :-[05:11
neopsycheaata what are gyou going to connect with your bluetooth?05:11
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aataits built it05:11
Lorvijahiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?05:11
aatai suppose ill connect it with my cell phone, neopsyche05:12
soundraydavid003: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts05:12
Bassxman1i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?05:12
umarzukidave already gone05:12
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neopsycheoh.. is it not mission critical? just a fun project?05:12
LjLaata: see if /var/log/syslog says anything about bluetooth, at the end. pastebin the last dozen of lines or so.05:12
soundraymowen: am I making sense?05:12
soundrayI'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?05:12
dgjones!sound | Bassxman105:12
ubotuBassxman1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:13
neopsychelinux copying files 77% :-)05:13
geniiBassxman1: Add snd-sb16 module to the file /etc/modules05:13
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Bassxman1ok  thanks05:13
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aataLjL, http://pastebin.com/m6a4a1dd405:14
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jonesyhi - just noticed the option to download the "alternate desktop CD". Is that *just* the installer, then, and therefore smaller?05:14
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wolfwalkerDoes Ubuntu support most USB-MIDI adapters?05:15
soundrayjonesy: no, it's for special requirements and finicky hardware05:15
soundray!alternate | jonesy05:15
ubotujonesy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal05:15
wolfwalkerIn other words, if I have a midi keyboard and my computer doesn't have a midi jack, is there no hope?05:15
jonesyok, thanks all.05:15
jonesyheh. midi ;-P05:16
LjLaata: uhm, does  lsmod | grep hci  show anything? do you know what your bluetooth chip is called, or at least what model is your laptop? finally, have you checked that the hardware bluetooth switch is on? ;)05:16
Piciwolfwalker: #ubuntustudio probably will be able to answer that :)05:16
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soundraywolfwalker: you can install a sound card with a MIDI port05:16
jonesyI think I'm finally cured of fedora on the desktop.05:16
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jonesyI tried to go back to it to give it another shot last night. No Bueno(tm).05:16
wolfwalkerjonesy don't knock it.  For music programs, midi is the way to go.05:16
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shiznitanyone installed creative x-fi drivers05:16
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jonesywolfwalker, not at all - I'm a musician myself.05:17
neopsychewhat ftp gui is there besides gftp05:17
wolfwalkerAhh05:17
neopsychethat has a cut option05:17
neopsyche?/05:17
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sanraghi ...can anyone help me ... i am having trouble with scp05:17
Morticeneopsyche: the file manager. Use the "Connect to Server" facility05:17
Tomcat_neopsyche: nautilus05:17
neopsycheoh05:17
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soundraywolfwalker: how do you plan to use your keyboard, once you manage to set up a connection?05:17
neopsychenautilus...?05:17
Tomcat_neopsyche: Default file browser in Ubuntu.05:18
aatadont think theres a hardware switch... but heres the lsmod output http://pastebin.com/d2460b79c05:18
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sanragwhenever i scp a file to my ubuntu system...it's lost... i mean i can't locate it in my home directory05:18
sanragwhat do i do05:18
LjLaata, uhm, most laptops have a button to enable/disable bluetooth and wifi05:18
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soundraysanrag: what syntax do you use with scp? Please quote literally.05:18
iarwain1sanrag: where did you copy it to?05:18
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sanragscp <filename> sanrag@myip:05:19
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sanragi don't know where it goes05:19
neopsycheis there a download manager equiveland (with the features of) FDM free download manager for windows.05:19
neopsyche?/05:19
iarwain1sanrag: try this "scp <file> sanrag@myip:/home/sanrag/05:19
LjLaata: try  sudo modprobe bluetooth  and then  sudo invoke-rc.d bluetooth restart 05:19
shiznitcan you run 32bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu like you can in Windows?05:19
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MasterShrekshiznit, yes05:19
soundraysanrag: it goes to your home directory. Places-Home Folder05:19
neopsycheequivelant program to: FDM/ Getright05:19
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shiznitis it automatic?05:19
david003hello. i cant manage to control volume from my keyboard. i set the shourtcut keys correctly, and i manage to see the volume bar that goes up and down in ubuntu but rhithimbox, firefox and other stuff dont change the volume...how can i change that?05:20
Picishiznit: no.05:20
sanragit doesn't go to my home directory05:20
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Pici!chroot > shiznit (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)05:20
Bassxman1i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:20
soundraysanrag: I bet it does.05:20
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs05:20
Grundokohey. can someone help me with winrar05:20
jonesyshiznit, yes.05:20
shiznitlooks like they only have 64bit creative drivers05:20
Morticeneopsyche: check out gwget: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gwget/index.html05:20
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sanragit doesn't....05:20
shiznit:(05:21
dvs01is it just me or is gutsy's kernel affecting performance negatively? switching tabs in firefox takes 2-3 seconds, and performance seems weird overall, sometimes with noticeable keystroke lag that i didnt see before05:21
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soundraysanrag: how are you checking?05:21
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LjL!gutsy > dvs01    (dvs01, see the private message from Ubotu)05:21
iarwain1sanrag: did you try the command i gave you?05:21
penguincentralGrundoko: what's up?05:21
ikoniashiznit it is 64bit only05:21
neopsychethanks mortice.. i think i saw that one before but checking it out now.05:21
Grundokoi installed winrar using the add remove programs05:21
sanragiarwain1, yes....still not working05:21
dvs01thanks05:21
aatanope, LjL. no output from modprobe. does that mean i have no bluetooth *super embarrassed*05:21
Grundokobut i cant figure out how to use it05:21
aata:-[05:21
penguincentral!ask | Grundoko05:21
ubotuGrundoko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:21
Grundokook sorry05:21
shiznitikonia, looks like might have to use onboard audio for linux shurg05:21
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david003hello. i cant manage to control volume from my keyboard. i set the shourtcut keys correctly, and i manage to see the volume bar that goes up and down in ubuntu but rhithimbox, firefox and other stuff dont change the volume...how can i change that?05:22
penguincentralGrundoko: is this a linux version, or under wine?05:22
LjLaata: modprobe is not *supposed* to give any option, just to load the given module. try hcitool dev again after having restarted bluetooth.05:22
iarwain1sanrag: are you using the same user to copy from? (it could be that you have no write perms)05:22
Grundokoi installed it using add remove programs05:22
neopsychecan i skip installing language packs?05:22
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Grundokoso it should be the linux version05:22
aatanope... still no response05:22
aatahold on05:22
iarwain1neopsyche: yeah, you can :)05:22
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aatalet me check whats going on in windows.05:22
Grundokoi also tried downloading the linux version off the site. and still nothing05:22
Bassxman1i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:22
aatabe right back05:22
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs05:22
vsayikiranthe output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs05:22
vsayikiranis there any channel where i can clear my doubts in networking field05:22
sanragi m the sole user of my system and i do have write permissions05:22
vsayikiranis there any channel for networking issues05:23
Picivsayikiran: ##networking iirc05:23
iarwain1sanrag: the fact that you're alone means nothing ;-)05:23
penguincentralGrundoko: there is no winrar in the repositories05:23
iarwain1sanrag: how do you check if the file's there?05:23
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sanragls of course..05:23
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Grundokowhat is the repositories. im pretty new to ubuntu05:23
volantareswell i'm off for now ikonia: thanks for all your help. I appreciate it05:23
iarwain1sanrag: in the ssh'ed system?05:23
Grundokojust got it yesterday<_<05:24
vsayikiranPici: is it #networking or ##networking iirc, ?05:24
Picivsayikiran: I'm not sure.05:24
soundrayI'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?05:24
soundray!repos | Grundoko05:24
ubotuGrundoko: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:24
sanragi can ssh and ls there too.05:24
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Grundoko!repos05:24
Grundoko/repos05:24
Picivsayikiran: one #05:24
iarwain1soundray: i'm not on ubuntu, but perhaps you can search the forums for that file (it will be a libgl package i think)05:24
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soundrayGrundoko: look up, ubotu05:24
iarwain1sanrag: btw, if you want to use locate, update your db first (sudo slocate -u)05:25
vsayikirandoes anyone how to create multisession CD/DVD with cd creator package?05:25
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sanragtried that too...it cudn't locate05:25
soundraysanrag: try 'ls -lart $HOME'05:25
LjLsoundray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86/+bug/3862405:25
iarwain1sanrag: couldn't update the db, or find it?05:25
CryoniqIs there a macro program working with Ubuntu/Gnome where I can record or make script macros to make mousepointer move and klick, and have keyboards enter text etc?05:25
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LjLsoundray: it seems libglw-dev is a virtual package that really points to some other xorg package. there is no libglw at all.05:26
sanragcouldn't find it05:26
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iarwain1sanrag: and the scp doesn't give any errors?05:26
vsayikiranhow to create multisession CD/DVD using cd/dvd creator package05:26
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Bassxman1i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:26
sanragno...instead it prints out the fortune... ( i have fortune in my .bashrc )05:27
surjaproblem with mounting data dvd disc on ubuntu 7.0405:27
neopsychebye.. going down for reboot for new linux installation... hope it works :-)05:27
neopsychecheers05:27
soundrayLjL: okay... can you give me a pointer where to go from here? I'm using a provided binary atm, but I'm not optimistic that compiling the software myself will help.05:27
surjaneed help05:27
iarwain1neopsyche: good luck!05:27
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LjLsoundray: well, what software is that?05:27
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Bassxman1i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:28
soundrayLjL: it's called AFNI http://afni.nimh.nih.gov/afni/05:28
iarwain1sanrag: so you scp the file to ... ? (the path after the @myip:)05:28
doktoreaswhy changing the modes inside xorg.conf doesn't update the values in preferences?05:28
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sanrag/home/sanrag05:28
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iarwain1sanrag: don't know why it won't copy O.o05:29
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Pici!fixres > doktoreas (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)05:29
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sanragdon't know myself....05:29
sanrag:(05:29
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soundrayiarwain1: try the scp command locally (scp somefile sanrag@localhost:) -- see if it "arrives". If it does, the problem is with the sending machine.05:30
surjacan anyone help with mounting data dvd disc?05:30
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pianoboy3333hey, I've got one of those dell monitors that turn sideways, is there anyway to get that working in ubuntu, and to be able to switch back and forth easily?05:30
iarwain1sanrag: check soundray's message to me :)05:30
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sanragcan u plz explain the syntax05:30
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IndyGunFreakInnomen: did theyget you figured out?05:30
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vsayikiranpianoboy: why do you want to turn sideways05:31
soundraysanrag: there's nothing to explain. Just use the scp command before, but on the target machine, with localhost as the destination.05:31
soundray*as before05:31
sanragsoundray, not working05:32
pianoboy3333vsayikiran: ummm because I'd like to? if I didn't want to I wouldn't have asked the question05:32
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Bassxman1i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:32
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pianoboy3333vsayikiran: I don't need to be questioned on why I asked the question05:32
iarwain1sanrag: just a quick question, is the file you're trying to send, in the folder you're in? (try with an absolute path to the file)05:33
toke-is there messenger for gecko?05:33
sanragyes...it is05:33
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vsayikiranpianoboy: but there should be some purpose of asking such q's05:33
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Morticepianoboy3333: do you know what graphics drivers you're using? Nvidia or intel or what?05:33
iarwain1vsayikiran: because he wants it?05:33
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vsayikiranhow to create multisession CD/DVD's05:33
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pianoboy3333Mortice: nvidia 7600 gt05:34
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mojo_hello there, does Ubuntu uses wpa_supplicant.conf?05:34
Poundosudo ifup eth0 says no such device what do i need to do to get eth0 to respond05:34
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sanragso what should i do now?05:34
soundraysanrag: okay, try this: create an empty file: 'touch foo'. Now copy that empty file locally with 'scp foo bar'. Now check if bar exists: 'ls -l bar'05:34
neopsychewell, that was good. :-)05:34
Morticepianoboy3333: cool. You should be able to do this with a single command that you can bind to a hotkey once we set up a config file.05:34
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pianoboy3333Mortice: ok05:35
neopsychei diddnt think ubuntu was going to load .. but it did eventually...05:35
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iarwain1mojo_: ubuntu doesn't use wpa_supplicant i think05:35
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vsayikiranhow to create multisession cd/dvd's05:35
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sanragsoundray, yes, bar exists05:35
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coldbootWhat's that program that installs all the needed software to compile a source package?05:35
mojo_iarwain1: u sure? then how can I connect to WPA network on console? I am using Ubuntu server now05:35
iarwain1vsayikiran: i know that with k3b you get the choice. Perhaps in the menu or so?05:35
neopsychesomething that is really cool that i wonder if it could be done on a desktop.. on latops there is a suspend resume feature .. where if you turn off your laptop .. it powers back up again and returns you to exactly the same screen/programs you were on.. can that be done with ubuntu on a desktop?05:35
Morticepianoboy3333: could you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf please? 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'05:35
coldbootIt uses apt-get to get all the packages you need to compile the package of your choice.05:36
pianoboy3333Mortice: ok05:36
iarwain1mojo_: not sure, i'm not using ubuntu.05:36
mojo_iarwain1: ...05:36
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dagobertso i want my windows to all swoosh on in and out, like in apple expose, when my mouse pointer goes to a corner of a screen.  how do i do that ?05:36
iarwain1mojo_: ^_^ but when i checked the last time, it didn't really use it05:36
Grundokook i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termenal05:36
pianoboy3333Mortice: done05:36
Morticepianoboy3333: in the 'device' section, add 'Option "RandRRotation" "on"'05:36
MasterShrekmojo_, build-essential05:36
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MasterShrekcoldboot, *** my bad05:36
vsayikiraniarwain: do you use cd/dvd creator the default package that comes with ubuntu05:36
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mojo_MasterShrek: heh?05:37
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iarwain1vsayikiran: no, i used to use kubuntu05:37
MasterShreksorry mojo_ meant for someone else =P05:37
coldbootMasterShrek: What?05:37
mojo_MasterShrek: typo05:37
pianoboy3333Mortice: done05:37
MasterShrekcoldboot, sudo apt-get install build-essential05:37
Morticepianoboy3333: once that's done, save the file and restart your graphical windowing system by hitting Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. When you log in again, you should be able to hit Alt-F2 and type "xrandr -o right" to rotate your display.05:37
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MasterShrekfor building packages from source05:37
sanragcan anyone help me out ?05:37
Morticepianoboy3333: Assuming that worked, you can used the keyboard shortcuts window to set up a hotkey for it.05:38
pianoboy3333ok thanks05:38
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coldbootMasterShrek: sudo apt-get build-dep package_name05:38
soundraysanrag: sec, phone05:38
Morticepianoboy3333: good luck :)05:38
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sanragok05:38
elfrangeris ubuntu 7.04 server edition a live cd?05:38
Lorvijahiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?05:38
vsayikiraniarwain: can KDE package be run properly in GNome05:38
Bassxman1i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:38
Picielfranger: No.05:38
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elfrangerPici: but the desktop one is?05:38
alemmerem resources in xUbuntu?05:38
toke-people from finland?05:38
Picielfranger: yes.05:38
Lorvijatoke-:  yes05:38
elfrangerPici: cool, thanks05:39
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toke-jeejee05:39
vsayikiranis it possible to use kde packages in gnome05:39
Pici!fi05:39
ubotuSuomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi05:39
Picivsayikiran: Sure.05:39
alemmerHow do I check my system resources in xUbuntu?05:39
elfrangerPici: In case you are wondering. Only asking because I need the livecd to resize my partitions05:39
sanragvsyaikiran, yes u can use..05:39
doktoreasPici, is like i am changing the wrong file05:39
vsayikiranPici: how kde is differeny from gnome05:39
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doktoreasi set all resolution to 1024 but gdm still load 168005:39
SMARTerroralemmer you can try the command top in console05:39
Grundokook i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termena05:39
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umerhey guys, i have a question, i tried ubuntu 7.04 and was a bit frustrated with it, this was a couple of months ago, but taking a look at 7.10, i see alot of the features i want should be available in that. so i was wondering, is it better for me to wait for the final release of 7.10, or is the beta good enough?05:40
sanragvsayikiran, kde is more like windows environment while gnome is more like mac os environment05:40
umeri would be switching from windows xp05:40
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Picivsayikiran: Its a different interface.  Its like comparing the mac gui to windows, its just different.05:40
neopsyche7zip?05:40
Bassxman1i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:40
e\ectro_can someone help me troubleshoot pam_group.so issue where users logging into GDM do not obtain the groups I have setup in /etc/security/groups.conf ?05:40
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Piciumer: If you were having issues with Feisty, I'd wait for Gutsy final.  Its still quite buggy right now.05:40
Grundoko7zip only works in the termenal too05:40
vsayikiranPici: once i installed amorok player which is kde package, but after installation i wasnt able to see the letters in menu05:40
umeroh okay, sounds good05:40
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sanragvsayikiran, u can always add it to menu manually05:41
soundraysanrag: now try 'scp foo sanrag@localhost:barbar'. Does barbar exist after that?05:41
LjLsoundray: http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mesa/libglw1-mesa_7.0.1-2_i386.deb - it's a Debian package, but APT takes it fine on my Gutsy.05:41
umeralso, are there any msn replacements available for ubuntu other than amsn and gaim?05:41
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Picivsayikiran: Thats odd. I had that once, but I reinstalled amarok and it worked fine.05:41
Lorvijahiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?05:41
sanragno barbar wasn't there05:42
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neopsychei selected xchat files in synaptic.05:42
neopsychedoes this mean that xchat for gnome will be installed?05:42
vsayikiransanrag: you didnlt get it , after installation the menu's of amarok player were empty, like when i opened file menu, the menu commands were absent05:42
neopsycheor only stuff that helps xchat?05:42
SMARTerroronly if you install gnome xchat05:42
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soundrayLjL: that's great, thank you. Feisty doesn't take it, I'll have to try it on my gutsy machine when I get home.05:43
SMARTerrorpersonally i dont like gnome xchat05:43
sanragvsayikiran, strange.. mine working fine05:43
elfrangerjust a quick question before I go ahead... I am about to boot on the livecd to get to resize my partitions.. is that a smart way of doing it?05:43
neopsycheis gusty out yet? officially?05:43
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LjLneopsyche: No05:43
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neopsycheok05:43
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geniineopsyche: Oct 17 or 1805:44
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Grundokook i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termenal05:44
sanragsoundray, couldn't find barbar05:44
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vsayikiransanrag: do you know how to use sound recorder05:44
LjLsoundray: there is also *supposed* to be a package in trevio's repository which has it for *edgy*, but that package gives a 404.05:44
vsayikiransanrag: i am unable to record any sound and i wonder whether it detects my internal microphone05:44
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LjLsoundray: on my own Debian Etch, some packages provide libGLw.a, but none libGLw.so.105:45
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Bassxman1i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?05:45
MaliqueHey guys, does anyone know if it's possible in some round about way to make a symlink for a file across HTTP?05:45
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LjLMalique: no, but there is an HTTP filesystem for FUSE05:45
swarmWhen installing QUOTA, I ran into this issue: quotacheck: WARNING - Quotafile //quota.user was probably truncated. Cannot save quota settings... ----------> It repeats the same for quota.group -- any ideas?05:45
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phatfishThe current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?05:46
soundrayLjL: as long as I can run it somewhere, I'll be happy :)  It sounds like it'll be just the thing to try on gutsy. Thanks again!05:46
MaliqueOooo that COULD work maybe, I'll have a look at that, thanks :)05:46
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SMARTerrorGrundoko if you have rar and unrar installed it will work with file roller05:46
soundraysanrag: did you get a password prompt when you tried that?05:46
GigaClonuhh my SD card reader is mounting read-only, its never done that before05:46
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GigaClonnm05:47
soundrayGigaClon: switch?05:47
GigaClonyeah05:47
swarmoh. that error is normal.05:47
geniiBassxman1: Quote from that page you are at: "Note! Propably alsa_local files does not exist so create them first."05:47
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PoundoI can ping 127.0.0.1 but not 192.168.1.10 "Network is Unreachable" /interface shows "auto eth0" iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.7"05:48
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shiznitwould ubuntu make a good CS:S sever OS?05:49
sanragsoundray, yes, i git05:49
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sanragvsayikiran, run alsamixer and see if ur microphone is there05:49
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Morticepoundo: does "sudo ifconfig" show eth0 having the correct ip address?05:49
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w00thello...I had to re-install my windows partition, but it overwrote my grub i believe...doesn anyone know a way to fix that? im in the live cd right now...05:50
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geniiBassxman1: Also for editing you likely want to use an editor and not try to run the files (you were getting a "bash: error")   so something like sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local                 or so05:50
vsayikiransanrag: how?05:50
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blublobluIs there anything new in 7.10 beta from alpha 5?05:50
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Mortice!ubuntu+105:50
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+105:50
vsayikiransanrag: my lappy has internal microphone05:50
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doktoreasdoes monitor resolution take modes from xorg.conf?05:50
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sanragvsayikiran, type alsamixer on command prompt, go to capture section, it will show on top05:50
Dr_willisdoktoreas,  yes normally it does.05:50
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sanragdoktoreas, yes05:51
hwildehow can I set an ethernet port to 10MBps or 100MBps on boot ?05:51
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Dr_willisdoktoreas,  thers also optiuons for X to 'query' the monitor for what modes it can handle.05:51
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doktoreasDr_willis, i changes the modes but the gui show always the same values05:51
levanderWill the version of Rhythmbox in Gutsy support MTP?05:51
PoundoMortice:no it only eth0 is not shown jus lo at 127.0.0.105:51
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Dr_willisdoktoreas,  you did restart the X server? you did check at the !fixres factoid site?05:51
doktoreasDr_willis, yes05:51
MorticePoundo: then it looks like eth0 hasn't configured properly. Try doing "sudo ifup eth0"05:51
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doktoreasxorg starts always at the same resolution05:51
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doktoreasinside modes i have only 1024x768 and the gui show other modes05:52
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sanragdoktoreas, do u have a graphics card05:52
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hwilde!fixres | doktoreas05:52
ubotudoktoreas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:52
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PoundoMortice: when I did that I get no such device05:52
doktoreasintel GMA95005:52
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soundraysanrag: does 'ssh sanrag@localhost' give you a bash prompt?05:52
informatyka_Hello05:52
hwildePoundo, run "ifconfig -a"  to see all interfaces05:52
informatykahey05:53
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smacfarlso my 7.10 update failed because it couldn't find an update for automatix. What do I do?05:53
doktoreassanrag, the livecd detected 1680x105005:53
doktoreasbut the gui shows only 1024x76805:53
informatyka_Shit :(05:53
vsayikiransanrag: it does show capture and input so option, now what to do?05:53
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soundraysmacfarl: reinstall05:53
informatykano05:53
Innomenis there a chkdisk equivilant for ubuntu?05:53
MorticePoundo: that'd be the problem then. :) Do you know what model your network card is?05:53
doktoreasand this is not in the xorg.conf "modes"05:53
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stdin!fsck | Innomen05:53
ubotuInnomen: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot05:53
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informatyka_What the hell is with ya dude?05:53
informatyka_Viking huh "?05:53
informatyka_..05:53
hwildedoktoreas, hit ctrl+alt+f1,  go to super user,  edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   replace the resolutions, save the file, ctrl+alt+f7, ctrl+alt+backspace05:53
cyranohi05:53
MaliqueOK, I found HTTPFS for FUSE, now here's my next question: if I access such a file system from another computer, either through HTTP or SSH or what not, will the computer I'm accessing from be downloading the file, or will the computer on which the HTTPFS is mounted be downloading it, and then re-sending it to the networked computer?05:53
cyranoi've got an offtopic question, but couldn't think of a more qualified channel to go to. I want to forward all my mails with attachments from one GMAIL account to another. I tride doing this with a filter, but it didn't forward the existing mails...05:53
PuppiesAtWorkIs there an ubuntu live CD that can run on a MacBook Pro and have everything work?05:53
cyranoany suggestion05:53
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penguincentralInnomen: after 30 mounts, Ubuntu checks the hdd's by itself when you boot05:54
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sanragsoundray, yes it does, not only from localhost but also from other ips05:54
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smacfarlsoundray do I need to uninstall automatix?05:54
daedrahow do you telnet into freenode?05:54
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sanragPuppiesAtWork, yes there is, u can order it from Canonical05:54
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PuppiesAtWorksanrag: I want to just download and burn it myself05:54
PuppiesAtWorksanrag: with the 7.10beta LiveCD work fine?05:55
levandercyrano: There are Google support groups on groups.google.com05:55
PoundoMortice: it's in a vmware guest install I'll check05:55
SkenvoyHello, i'm getting incredibly slow reads using winxp from samba05:55
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MorticePoundo: aha. Lemme look into that for you.05:55
soundraysanrag: try the original scp command with the -v option. It should tell you more about what it does then.05:55
sanragPuppiesAtWork, i don't have a mac, but if it's for Mac, it will wok fine05:55
cyranook. thanks05:55
PuppiesAtWorksanrag: It's for a macbook pro05:55
MaliqueGahh, too many people, don't know whether to ask again in case no one saw me or wait for an answer LOL05:55
MrowkojadPuppiesAtWork: I think better you wait ten days for stable version 7.10 :>05:55
PuppiesAtWorkand wireless has to work.;05:55
SpiderPighow do i install java?05:56
PuppiesAtWorkFuck that05:56
PuppiesAtWorkI'm going beta05:56
soundraysmacfarl: if you are going to reinstall, it doesn't matter. Steer away from automatix in the future.05:56
soundray!automatix | smacfarl05:56
ubotusmacfarl: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:56
stdin!ohmy | PuppiesAtWork05:56
vsayikiransanrag: alsamixer show option for capture and input so, now what to do05:56
ubotuPuppiesAtWork: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.05:56
hwildehow can I set an ethernet port to 10MBps or 100MBps on boot ?05:56
PuppiesAtWorkah05:56
PuppiesAtWorkAre families in this channel?05:56
Mrowkojadyes05:56
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Innomenthe gnome partition manager will not recover the unallocated space on my drive it says the filesystem has errors05:56
Mrowkojadkst its my uncle05:56
SpiderPigHOW DO I INSTALL JAVA?05:56
hwilde!language | PuppiesAtWork05:56
ubotuPuppiesAtWork: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:56
Mrowkojaddaedra its my mother :>05:56
SpiderPigsudo apt-get install java?05:56
stdinPuppiesAtWork: maybe, but there are kids in here05:56
Innomenthis is a windows partiton i'm enlarging05:56
hwilde!java | SpiderPig05:56
ubotuSpiderPig: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre05:56
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MorticePoundo: Could you check this page and see if that describes your problem and provides a fix? http://stateless.geek.nz/2007/02/01/ubuntu-and-vmware-losing-your-ethernet-device-when-migrating/05:56
ksti am what?05:56
penguincentralMrowkojad: well i'll be05:56
MasterShrek!java | SpiderPig05:56
Innomenwith fsck hurt a windows partiiton?05:56
sanragvsayikiran, does it show any name on capture screen05:56
MaliqueOK, I found HTTPFS for FUSE, now here's my next question: if I access such a file system from another computer, either through HTTP or SSH or what not, will the computer I'm accessing from be downloading the file, or will the computer on which the HTTPFS is mounted be downloading it, and then re-sending it to the networked computer?05:57
kst!ban Mrowkojad05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ban mrowkojad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:57
levandercyrano: on gmail.com, click on help and see if answer is in there, otherwise: http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Help-Discussion05:57
smacfarlso i have installed 3 things via automatix should I uninstall them before removing automatix?05:57
PuppiesAtWorkDo you tell people to come here instead of calling the ubuntu support line?05:57
PuppiesAtWorkIs there an actual ubuntu support line?05:57
MasterShrek!java05:57
Mrowkojadkst: nothing i'm just kiding05:57
penguincentralkst, according to Mrowkojad, you two are related05:57
blublobluPuppiesAtWork: we're more fun than a support line05:57
penguincentral!offtopic | PuppiesAtWork05:57
ubotuPuppiesAtWork: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:57
SMARTerrorthe flow of information is too much lol05:57
kitchePuppiesAtWork: yes if you pay for it :)05:57
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informatyka_Mrowkojad Tak? ..05:57
Evanlec1-800-help-ubuntu05:57
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Mrowkojadinformatyka_: tak05:57
sanragsoundray, have to go ...can i contact u after half an hour05:57
PuppiesAtWorkkitche: how much is it?05:57
PiciPuppiesAtWork: This is community support, there is paid support.05:57
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soundraysanrag: no, sorry05:57
doktoreashwilde, the problem come also with livecd05:58
vsayikiransanrag: i didnt get you , what name05:58
vsayikiransanrag: i ran the command and i saw a graphic representing volume etc05:58
PuppiesAtWorkCan consumers buy the paid support?05:58
MaliqueAnyone know? :(05:58
doktoreasubuntu set modes only to 1680x105005:58
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vanhello05:58
doktoreasbut the livecd is showned at 1024x76805:58
stdinPuppiesAtWork: http://ubuntu.com/support05:58
geniiSkenvoy: find in /etc/samba/smb.conf the entry: #socket options = TCP_NODELAY      and remove the #  then do a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart05:58
informatyka_HAHAHAHA! Mrowkojad is Dead!!05:58
wers!gksu05:58
informatyka_FInally!05:58
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info05:58
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informatyka_Hail to the Bandit King!05:58
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geniiSkenvoy: You need to edit with admin rights, so something like gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf05:59
Skenvoygenii: already done05:59
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uguestu> Hi. I want to remove Movie Player (Totem) and everything to do with it and use MPlayer for everthing < How can I remove everything to do with Totem?05:59
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Skenvoygenii: no effect. Speeds reading from the server (samba) are a pathetic 400kB/s on a GIGABIT network06:00
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Evanlecsudo apt-get remove totem06:00
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Skenvoygenii: writing to the same share results in 30MB/s speeds06:00
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Innomenso there is no checkdisk equivilant for umbuntu for ntfs and other types?06:00
Innomenonly ext?06:00
sparsecInnomen: fsck06:00
unimatrix9you dont need to remove totem to use mplayer , but i guess you already know that?06:00
vsayikiranPici: do you know how to record or capture sound06:00
uguestu> Hi. I want to remove Movie Player (Totem) and everything to do with it and use MPlayer for everthing < How can I remove everything to do with Totem?06:00
Innomenno06:00
Innomeni just ran it06:00
Innomenit says there's no ext there06:00
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Innomenor is there a commandline switch for ntfs?06:01
Picivsayikiran: I dont, sorry.06:01
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sparsecInnomen: And which fs you need it for?06:01
Evanlecuguestu, system > synaptic > mark totem for complete removal06:01
sparsecInnomen: Ah, ntfs, sorry, didn't saw this one06:01
soundray!info ntfsprogs | Innomen06:01
Innomeni need it for the make gnome work like it should file system lol06:01
ubotuinnomen: ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.13.1-6 (feisty), package size 267 kB, installed size 700 kB06:01
MaliqueJudging from the way this looks, I don't think FUSE will help me, not unless there's another HTTP mount extension besides httpfs06:01
unimatrix9sound recording : there are several programs , use audacity ..06:01
swarmdo'h.06:01
Innomengah06:01
swarmi need to reset my mysqld passwd06:01
MaliqueNOt for this particular issue06:01
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Innomenso not on live cd then06:01
uguestuEvanlec- "Cannot remove Totem-gstreamer" > "06:01
uguestuOne or more applications depend on totem-gstreamer. To remove totem-gstreamer and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager."06:01
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unimatrix9!audacity06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:01
unimatrix9hmm,06:02
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vsayikiranplease help needed, i want to know whether ubuntu recognises built in microphone06:02
Innomen!audacity06:02
Evanlecuguestu, u have to do it from synaptic, not from add/remove program06:02
soundrayInnomen: you can install it in the live CD06:02
kitcheswarm: mysql.com has a good howto on how to reset root password for mysql unless you mean something different06:02
Innomenoh cool06:02
Innomenthanky06:02
Pici!msgthebot06:02
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:02
Evanlecuguestu, do "sudo synaptic" from terminal06:02
penguincentralInnomen: they already tried that06:02
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penguincentralPici, are you everywhere all at once?06:02
unimatrix9use sound recorder , its in the programs menu06:02
Innomeni was spelling it form muslce memory06:02
geniiSkenvoy: There are various speedup tips in the samba docs, sudo apt-get install samba-doc              then view /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/speed.html06:02
Innomenit looked wrong06:02
uguestuEvanlec- Ok. You use xchat Evanlec?06:02
Innomenlol06:02
swarmkitche, yeah. thats what im looking for06:03
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informatyka_aaa06:03
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MaliqueI need some way of being able to make a symlink or something similar to a file that's on the net, and have it so when others try to download it from my server it will download from the original location06:03
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SpiderPighow do i enable multiverse in my repository list?06:03
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unimatrix9the soundn applet on the right corner of your desktop , klick it, it shows the mic too ..06:03
informatyka_aaa06:03
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informatyka_AAAZ06:03
Innomenntfsprogs does not show up in add/remove06:04
SpiderPighow do i enable multiverse in my repository list?06:04
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vanvan06:04
Innomeni'll just do it from windows06:04
soundrayMalique: when you say it's "on the net", how exactly is it accessible?06:04
Innomenno biggie06:04
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Evanlecuguestu, ya06:04
nunya_hello06:04
nunya_how is everyone06:04
uguestuEvanlec- How do you get the +nick and then ,?06:04
benzs_sSpiderPig: system > administration > check the 'multiverse' box06:04
uguestuI only get :06:04
benzs_ser06:04
unimatrix9nunya , ok thank you...06:04
benzs_sSpiderPig: system > administration > software sources >check the 'multiverse' box06:04
nunya_good good06:05
Evanlecuguestu, im just using <tab> completion06:05
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afd_hi! I have a hardware problem... I'm purchased a new dvd-writer driver, SATA model. It didn't work with Feisty (it won't complete loading kernel modules), so I've upgraded to Gutsy. I just wrote a dvd with it, but I can't mount the drive. I've even tried mounting it manually, but I can't. I get this in dmesg output: cdrom: failed setting lba address space06:05
afd_any ideas?06:05
soundray!multiverse > SpiderPig06:05
Piciafd_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.06:05
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uguestuEvanlec- Me too. But I don't get + infront of the nickname like you did before.06:05
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uguestuHow come?06:05
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Evanlecuguestu, im not sure what u mean by +06:05
enanoHi! Does anyone have a link on howto install flashplayer (for firefox) with feisty 64bit? Thanks!06:05
UbuntuGuyHI -- Problem with glxgears and i810 driver in feisty.  at startup, X says " AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so", but glxgears says drmMap of framebuffer failed (invalid argument) and "Direct Rendering: No".  Any ideas how to get it working?06:05
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MaliqueI want the files to be accessible ad deb files from apt-get06:05
uguestuEvanlec- This is what I see:     Evanlec: +uguestu, im not sure what u mean by +06:06
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uguestuYou see there is a + infront of my nickname.06:06
trytrysaaaa06:06
Xsylotteis there any posibillity to "Take screenshot" automaticly saves screenshots ?06:06
trytrysafddsaf06:06
Xsylottewithout asking me ?06:06
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Evanlecuguestu, oh, i dont see that, ur using regular xchat or xchat-gnome ?06:06
uguestuEvanlec- Regular.06:06
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Evanlecuguestu, im not sure...06:06
uguestuEvanlec- Odd.06:06
unimatrix9set timer for your screenshot06:06
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trytrys Evanlec- Odd.06:07
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slackernuguestu: is there a (plus) sign in this message also06:07
Innomengiven the target audience for this app, why sint the a windows installer?06:07
vankuhgf06:07
uguestuYes slackern06:07
Innomenwould that be possible?06:07
mooperhi, I have a dual monitor setup with ati big desktop thingy. When I go full screen with a VM on server it uses both screens. with a duplicate in each screen. How Can I keep the VM to one screen?06:07
Maliquesoundray: I want the files to be accessible as deb files from apt-get06:07
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Xsylotteunimatrix9, i've meant when i press button print screen, it opens a widnows where i need to click on save....06:07
kitcheInnomen: if you want to use windows inaller use a windows install cd06:07
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Xsylottei don't need that windows.06:07
Xsylotte*window06:07
van#include <stdio.h>06:07
van#include <stdlib.h>06:07
vanmain() {06:07
van  int kol,wiersz;06:07
van  for(kol=1; kol<=9; kol++);06:07
van printf("%i",kol);06:07
van}06:07
Innomenno i mean for installing ubuntu to a second drive for duel boot and testing purposes06:07
kitchepaste | van06:07
Evanlec!pastebin | van06:08
hwildeMalique, /var/cache/apt/archives06:08
ubotuvan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:08
slackernuguestu: check the user input area of the xchat config and look for "Nick completion suffix" it should be a : or a , there06:08
vsayikirandoes cd/dvd creator support multisession06:08
soundrayMalique: okay, but how *are* they accessible to you right now? FTP? SCP?06:08
Innomensort of the middle path between booting from cd and ghoing pure ubuntu06:08
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Maliquesoundray: they're currently on HTTP06:08
uguestuslackern- Yes I have it set too "-" but how can I add the + INFRONT of the nickname like you have?06:08
swarmhmmmm...... it says restart mysql with  --skip-grant-tables option.... so i did /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables06:08
slackernuguestu: oh i have no idea why you are getting it :)06:08
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uguestuodd.06:08
swarmbut... then the rest of the commands i says to give give errors because of that?06:08
Innomenhas anyone considered it? or is it like technically not possible because of how windows is built?06:08
uguestuanyway.. thank's for help06:09
murlidharerr how do i make deluge the default torrent client??06:09
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slackernuguestu: with some irc clients moderators of a channel can have a + sign infront of their nick while operators have a @ sign infront of theirs, but im neither06:09
Evanlecmurlidhar, good question!06:09
kitcheInnomen: why are you asking about windows in a linux channel? if you want a windows like installer use the alternate cd06:09
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soundrayMalique: in that case, I don't think it's possible. If they were accessible via ftp, you could mount the remote location using fuse. I don't think there's a fuse model for ftp, though.06:10
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Skenvoygenii: read the samba-docs - tried stuff it's still pathetically slow - the share is accessing a raid-5 array with a benchmark speed of over 170MB/s06:10
soundrays/model/module/06:10
SMARTerrormurlindhar i do believe then next time you open a torrent just select the app you wish to use06:10
Maliquesoundray: but then wouldn't the serving computer be downloading them first anyway, and then relaying them?06:10
soundrayMalique: no06:10
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soundrayMalique: oh, yes, sorry06:11
murlidharEvanlec: thnks but how do i make it default?06:11
MaliqueI want to see if it's possible to make the computers I set up with the repository to download direct from the site they link to, rather than from my server which is behind a very slow connection06:11
soundrayMalique: I see what you mean now. You want some sort of redirection06:11
Evanlecmurlidhar, i dont know lol06:11
geniiSkenvoy: Well, there are no other suggestions I could offer than the ones which are already in there.06:11
murlidharSMARTerror: i do not where my client is???06:11
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MaliqueSoundray: yes, exactly. A redirection within a deb repository :)06:11
MaliqueIs it possible?06:11
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swarmok. this is wierd06:12
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swarmevery time i type something specific, it shows up as something else.06:12
soundrayMalique: I don't know (but I doubt it). You could try #debian (but put on your asbestos suit)06:12
whiskeytangoErm..06:12
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swarmin this case, my password.06:12
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MaliqueLOL, fair enough, thanks I'll try there06:12
geniiSkenvoy: Possibly renicing smb daemon, thats about it06:13
swarmdoes !1 mean anything to you guys?06:13
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swarmmy password has !1 in it06:13
Skenvoygenii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143982 = looks like i'll be buying a non-crap ethernet card06:13
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unimatrix9swarm wrong keyboard settings ?06:13
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swarmits in terminal06:13
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unimatrix9so?06:13
JuJuBeeI want to install opera.  I have the .deb package.  How do I install it?06:13
swarmand if i just type !1 it shows the same thing i am seeing when i type it in a command06:13
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unimatrix9copy and paste...06:14
geniiSkenvoy: Good idea :)06:14
swarmsame. it is replacing it06:14
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swarmgo to a terminal and type !1 and see for yourself06:14
swarmit will show the first thing you ever typed.06:14
unimatrix9you have got the first virus06:14
whiskeytango"event not found" swarm06:14
swarmhmm06:15
soundrayJuJuBee: 'sudo dpkg -i opera*.deb'06:15
hellonullhey, i am having an issue with my programs (pidgin & thunderbird) being able to access google services (talk & gmail, respectively)... anyone know what the issue might be?06:15
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unimatrix9swarm type history -c to clear all inputs06:15
JuJuBeethanks soundray.06:15
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elfrangeruhm, I need some help... I have launched the livecd and am now in gparted gui...06:15
WippoZippoGoodevening, it seems I'm having problems installing ubuntu06:15
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vsayikiranplease help does cd/dvd creator support multisession06:15
WippoZippoI have a seagate HD ... but it can't find any of my partitions06:15
elfrangerI can see my partitions, but the extended has a lock on it and I cannot move it...06:15
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swarmhmm....06:16
elfrangerI need to move the extended partition to the end of the disk to make use of the extra disk space06:16
swarmthats annoying. it still does it, but shows the history -c. lol :)06:16
doktoreasbut is it normal that gdm works and gnome not?06:16
unimatrix9diner is ready..06:16
unimatrix9bye bye06:16
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swarmblah. now i need to figure out how to reset this mysql passwd06:16
Evanlec!gdm06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:16
elfrangerkind of a special disk this... it is a virtual disk in vmware so I have just expanded the virtual one so all available space is at the end of the disk06:16
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yell0whey guys, how do i turn on direct rendering for the ati radeon x200 ?06:17
seaPig|wrkelfranger, what file system are you using?06:17
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Evanlecyell0w, install the ati binary driver06:17
qwerkusok, I got another *wierd* problem for you: everytime i plug-in the battery, my laptop keeps rebooting because of "critical temperature reached (803C)". I can't even reached the login prompt. It's happening since I upgraded from edgy to feisty. Any idea ? Thanks for help :)06:17
SMARTerrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:17
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SMARTerrortry that yellow06:18
yell0wEvanlec, how ?06:18
Evanlecyell0w, ^ ^06:18
SMARTerrorlol06:18
SMARTerrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:18
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SMARTerroryell0w ^^06:18
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Dr_willis803C - wow.. thats.. toasty06:18
Innomenqwerkus: corrilation does not denote causation, jst because it happened at the same time does not mean ti was the cause, i'd take a serious look at the battery06:18
Innomenthey are tiny explosives you know06:19
hellonulli am having an issue with my programs (pidgin & thunderbird) being able to access google services (talk & gmail, respectively)... anyone know what the issue might be? they are both connecting to other protocols/services fine but there are issues with the google ones06:19
qwerkusi heard that ...06:19
SpiderPighow do i enable java applet?06:19
EvanlecInnomen, lol, true that06:19
SpiderPig<- firefox06:19
Innomen*shrugs*06:19
SMARTerrordownload the jre06:19
SpiderPigyeah yeah did that and its installed06:19
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Innomenor it could be that little chekc box hidden in the system menu "cause battery to over heat"06:19
SMARTerrorthen it should work06:19
SpiderPighow do i enable java applet06:19
Innomenyou should just uncheck it06:19
qwerkuswhat do wou mean, with "a serious look": what are my options ?06:19
Innomen:P06:19
SpiderPighmm it doesnt06:19
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Evanlechellonull, i'd look on the google support, sounds like application specific, not ubuntu specific06:20
Innomenlike how long have you had it read up on the model number, see if other people have the same thing for other reasons06:20
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YBH_113/f06:20
Innomenif you can take it to a battery place near you for inspection06:20
Evanleclol06:20
qwerkusneven heard about that in France ...06:21
Innomenpeople dont recondition nbatterys in france?06:21
Innomenthats intresting06:21
hellonullEvanlec: they both work fine in other os (windows)... i have had ubuntu and windows sharing the same pidgin & thunderbird profiles for awhile... could this be the problem?06:21
qwerkusWhy don't I experience the same error under 2.6.17 ?06:21
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doktoreasdoes gdm uses the same video settings of gnome?06:21
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vmlinuz2!webcam06:22
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:22
Innomenare you sure you dont?06:22
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Innomenyou said it started when you installed the new one06:22
Innomenbut did you downgrade and see if that fixes it?06:22
qwerkusyup06:22
kitchedoktoreas: it uses the same settings as Xorg so yes just might be at a different resolution though06:22
Evanlechellonull, mm, yea probably, how did u even get that to work?06:22
qwerkusa month ago06:22
Innomeni know thats a huge PITA06:22
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Innomenbut still, like i said tiny explosives06:22
Innomen*shrugs*06:22
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hellonullEvanlec: i moved the profiles to a FAT32 partition i have on my drive and pointed both programs' settings to them06:22
fiXXXerMetWhere can I get the my-large.cnf and my-huge.cnf files, since they don't come with the mysql package?06:22
doktoreaskitche, where does gdm get the resolution?06:22
Innomencould just boot from teh version 6 cd and see if it does it06:22
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EverheartHey guys I got this problem when I try to install ubuntu it doesn't detect my harddrivers, anyone have any experience with this?06:22
qwerkuscould it be an acpi-related problem ?06:23
doktoreasi set xorg.conf to 1024 and it is still at 64006:23
Innomenif it dosent then you know for sure its the software06:23
Evanlechellonull, i see, well for troubleshooting purposes i would create a new profile and try that06:23
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kitchedoktoreas: from itself I believe06:23
yell0wEvanlec, fglrx is running, but no direct rendering06:23
Innomenand people could help ypou fgrom there06:23
Innomenthat i cant tell you cuz i'm a ubuntu newb06:23
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Innomenbut i'm not an eletronics newb :)06:23
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mastaofdisastahas anyone eve tried NIC bonding?06:23
Evanlecyell0w, did u try rebooting? ;p06:23
mastaofdisastaon ubuntu?06:23
qwerkus<Innomen>, which CD are you talking about ?06:24
elfranger!webcam06:24
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:24
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yell0wEvanlec, it's been running since the beginning06:24
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Evanlecyell0w, u have to install the ati binary drivers06:24
Innomenany install cd of ubuntu works as a live bootable OS dosent it?06:24
Innomenrecent ones anyway06:24
kitcheInnomen: the desktop ones do06:24
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Innomeni know 7 is, i thoink 6 is too06:24
qwerkusah, you mean a live-cd06:24
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elfrangerseapig: sorry for the late reply... can I pm you?06:24
qwerkus?06:25
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Innomenyes06:25
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Innomensorry i want clear06:25
Innomeni been up way way too long06:25
yell0wEvanlec, yes, it's was installed, but  when i do glxinfo , there's no direct rendering06:25
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kav2kHello everyone, there is something I'm trying to figure out: I installed KDE into standard ubuntu installation, and now can't find any way to change screen resolution from within KDE. Ubuntu installed into virtualbox under Windows host, my linux skills - below average.06:25
qwerkusAs I said: i'm working on the same laptop everyday with 2.6.17 kernel without any prob06:25
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hellonullEvanlec: good suggestion, will try06:25
Innomenso you can make the problem go away and come back?06:25
qwerkusbut everytime I boot the other kernel: paf: critical temp reached06:26
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Innomenahhhh06:26
Innomeni totally misunderstood06:26
qwerkussry06:26
Innomenmy apologies06:26
qwerkusmy poor explanations06:26
Innomenno, totally my bad06:26
Innomen:P06:26
Innomendont argue it was my fault and thats final06:26
Innomen:P :)06:26
Evanleclol06:26
hellonullEvanlec: i think it is probably related to the protocols... msn-based ones are doing the same thing06:26
qwerkusthe odds of civilization ...06:26
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Innomenheheh06:26
SpiderPiginnomen i agree with you 100%06:27
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elfrangerhm...06:27
hhshstest06:27
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Lunzcan anyone help me setting up wireless DWL-G122 USB Wireless06:27
Lunzcan anyone help me setting up wireless DWL-G122 USB Wireless?06:27
Innomenspiderpig: thank you :P06:27
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SpiderPig:D06:27
kitche!repeat | Lunz06:27
ubotuLunz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:27
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Lunzplease...06:28
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elfrangereveryone, I have a disk with standard partitions from an ubuntu 7.04 server install... one ext3 (10GB) and one linux swap in an extended partition (478MB). On the end of the disk I have 90GB of unallocated space...06:28
hhshsgutsy!gutsy06:28
theRealballchal1question, so how does linux implement the WPA support for intel 2200bg cards?06:28
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elfrangerhow do I proceed to making the 10GB partition into a 100GB partition?06:28
mastaofdisastahas anyone ever tried NIC bonding with ubuntu?06:28
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elfrangerI have booted on the ubuntu livecd and is currently in gparted06:28
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qwerkus<Innomen>, do you where I could find a solution ?06:28
hhshs!GUTSY06:28
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+106:28
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elfrangerbtw, who comes up with the Ubuntu release names?06:29
Innomenqwerkus: no man, sorry i don't, i'm very new to ubuntu06:29
traxHello everyone!06:29
Pici!codenames | elfranger06:29
ubotuelfranger: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more06:29
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qwerkusk06:29
elfrangercool06:29
mastaofdisasta /win 206:29
Evanleclol06:29
qwerkushave a nice day :)06:29
dagoberti voted for Fellating Faun06:29
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Evanlechaha06:30
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elfrangermay someone please devote themselved to assisting a partition_newbie?06:30
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dagoberti think ubuntu release names are less than awesome06:30
acee1234installing ubuntu from the live disk crashes the x server. i've gone throught the fix once but the link was lost in a format something about changing the xorg.conf file. Any suggestions06:30
asokito_24i need help06:30
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Evanlecdagobert, i agree lol06:30
npnuf1I have a feisty box with auto login. some times I want to login manually.  What key combination should I use to prevent auto login.06:30
acee1234GPU is ati x140006:30
asokito_24I had changed my beryl configuration to xgl06:30
soundraymastaofdisasta: I think it's called multipath routing, so perhaps you want to search for that.06:30
asokito_24and now it doesn't funk06:30
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elfrangerso, what animal is a gibbon?06:30
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Evanleca baboon? ;p06:31
Innomenthey should make a blackhat release of ubuntu, the merchandising alone would skyrocket its popularity06:31
elfrangeryup06:31
leo_rockwhello everyone06:31
Evanleclol06:31
leo_rockwelfranger, a gibbon is a type of monkey06:31
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Pici!ot06:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:31
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vmlinuz2hi, why my webcam works with luvcview works but not with camorama and other programs? no such as device tell me06:31
asokito_24how can I change my beryl configuration from TErminal06:31
asokito_24???06:31
trytrysEVANLEC... What is so funny06:31
trytrys?06:31
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soundrayelfranger: that's a gutsy question. Please take it to #ubuntu+1 ;)06:31
vmlinuz2but uvc drivers are loaded06:31
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kav2k!patience06:31
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:31
elfrangersoundray: haha06:32
Evanlectrytrys, the less than awesome release names of ubuntu ;p06:32
acee1234if no one has a suggestion where should i ask?06:32
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elfrangerneed help resizing partition...06:32
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Innomenthey should start doing insects06:32
trytrysthanks for Sure :)06:32
Innomenants dragon flyes wasps mantids06:32
trytrysSee ya ;] 06:32
kavoorany guide for compiz fusion on intel ?06:32
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soundray!fixres > acee1234, please read the private message from ubotu06:32
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kitchekavoor: get compiz working first then go on to the plugins06:33
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leo_rockwInnomen, Ubuntu 9.4 Wascally Wabbit06:33
kavoorkitche: i have tried beryl and compiz06:33
Innomenniiice heheh06:33
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kavoori wanna try fusiion06:33
soundray!compiz > kavoor, please read the private message from ubotu06:33
kitchekavoor: well compiz fusion is just compiz with addons06:33
Innomenubuntu 11 Wile E. Coyote super genius06:33
kitchekavoor: since compiz fusion != compiz but it uses compiz06:33
Evanlecleo_rockw, LOL06:34
Innomenleo_rockw: i am so good at sptealing your ideas06:34
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Innomen:P06:34
leo_rockwInnomen, they need to be alliterative06:34
elfrangeraaargh!06:34
acee1234soundray how is that going to get it to install?06:34
Innomenyea i know06:34
elfrangerstupid partitions06:34
kavoorkitche: seeing forums06:34
elfrangerthey won't do what I want them to do06:34
swarmgrr :(06:34
Innomenhow about Daffy then06:34
swarmi hate mysql already.06:35
elfrangerFloppy Daffy06:35
leo_rockwInnomen, Edubuntu 8.10 Ranting Racoon06:35
n4nobitelfranger: use fdisk06:35
swarmsimple thing like setting a password is so hard.06:35
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soundrayacee1234: you asked about fixing xorg.conf06:35
Innomenranting racoon06:35
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Innomen*looks wistful*06:35
leo_rockwInnomen, with daffy? Delirious Daffy06:35
acee1234soundray: ask the bot?06:35
elfrangern4obit: really? can I move partitions using fdisk?06:35
npnuf1I have a feisty box with auto login. some times I want to login manually.  What key combination should I use to prevent auto login.06:35
npnuf1in windows it is possible by using ctrl06:35
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Innomenare they all verbs?06:35
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Innomenerrr06:35
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n4nobithmm, well you could choose the manual setting in the install GUI and try..06:35
leo_rockwInnomen, it's adjective + animal06:35
Innomenwhat is that called adjectives06:35
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bruenignpnuf1, how did you enable auto login? inittab or what?06:36
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npnuf1gdmsetup06:36
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leo_rockwInnomen, i should join the marketing team ;-)06:36
soundraynpnuf1: use Quit-Switch user or Quit-Logout06:36
acee1234soundray: i cant install ubuntu from the live cd when i fixed it the first time someone linked me to a tutorial that said something about the xorg.conf file06:36
bruenignpnuf1, from a common sense perspective, I highly doubt that you could prevent it06:36
Innomenyea you can churn out bland easily as well as they can :P06:36
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leo_rockwInnomen, thanks... i guess lol06:37
leo_rockwacee1234, what video card brand do you have?06:37
K-4URight, could somebody help me with Vmware? when i install, it keeps telling me i've got stuff from a previous installation. but when i check synaptic. there are no files there!06:37
Innomenwhy not beautiful bunny?06:37
asokito_24#joinubuntu-es06:37
Innomen:P06:37
Fxyz4everanybody can use vbox?06:37
asokito_24#join ubuntu-es06:37
bruenignpnuf1, because it would be a gdm thing, gdm would parse the config file and auto-login almost immediately06:37
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Innomenlecherous leopard :P06:37
bruenignpnuf1, so if there were such a thing, to even hit the combination would be a crap shoot06:38
leo_rockwasokito_24, the command is "/join #ubuntu-es06:38
acee1234 leo_rockw:  ati x140006:38
soundrayacee1234: how far do you get?06:38
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leo_rockwacee1234, lol... lemme find my post in the ubuntu forums then06:38
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leo_rockwacee1234, i have that same card06:38
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acee1234 leo_rockw:  thank you06:38
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leo_rockwInnomen, beautiful bunny is not as kewl as ranting racoon. period haha06:38
Innomeni have to agree :)06:38
Innomenbut ranting racoon is not as cool as blackhat06:39
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acee1234 soundray: i dont remember what the last line was on the screen befor i get the bllue scrren telling me x server died06:39
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npnuf1bruenig; so it is not possible to stop auto login because of gdm06:39
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Innomenhow about gate crasher06:39
Innomenthats could be a fun name that you could read alot into06:39
geniiraving raccoon06:39
K-4Uacee1234: Since when does ubuntu have a BSoD?06:39
soundrayacee1234: were you booting from the CD at the time?06:39
Innomeni just see alot of potential here06:39
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kitcheK-4U: for a while :)06:39
K-4URight, could somebody help me with Vmware? when i install, it keeps telling me i've got stuff from a previous installation. but when i check synaptic. there are no files there!06:39
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Innomenubuntu is good because as far as the americna public goes they made up a word :P06:40
UbuntuGuyHI -- Problem with glxgears and i810 driver in feisty.  at startup, X says " AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so", but glxgears says drmMap of framebuffer failed (invalid argument) and "Direct Rendering: No".  Any ideas how to get it working?06:40
K-4Ujust asking again ^-^06:40
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acee1234K-4U: windows emulation?06:40
venomhi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there06:40
acee1234soundray:06:40
bruenignpnuf1, you have to understand how boot and init works, it is just one thing after another launching, it's not some OS wide centralized thing, it is disparate software developed by different people all put together and launched one after another, gdm is launched at the end06:40
stefglK-4U: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware06:40
penguincentralwhat's a chmod?06:40
leo_rockwacee1234, i have so many posts in the ubuntu forums, lol... this will take like 2 more minutes, bear w/ me06:40
acee1234soundray: yes06:40
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venomit says alot about error or something06:40
venomhi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there06:40
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venomit says alot about error or something06:40
K-4Ustefgl: Thnx, let's try06:40
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GreyGhost!makeinfo06:40
faemirACTION gives GreyGhost the golden fleece06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about makeinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:40
faemirACTION gives GreyGhost a baseball bat06:40
Lorvijahiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?06:40
acee1234 leo_rockw:np06:41
npnuf1bruenig; I understood.06:41
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venomanyone got any ideas for me ??06:41
soundrayacee1234: have you tried the Safe Graphics option?06:41
bruenignpnuf1, it reads its config file and does what it needs to do, for there to be some key combination they would have to build in some lag time where it just sits and waits to see if you hit it06:41
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stefgl!offtopic06:41
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:41
acee1234soundray: yes06:41
venomhi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there06:41
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Innomenvenom: we saw ya man06:41
venomsorry06:42
Innomenjust nothing springs to mind06:42
venomjust so many people06:42
Innomeni hear you06:42
bruenignpnuf1, which is stupid obviously, you could script something that would allow you to specify when you shutdown whether the next time you wanted it to login or not06:42
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venomwell its not the CD ive burnt it then i ordered 2 and none work06:42
Innomenthats kind if an easy problem to describe, have you looked around on the forums?06:42
leo_rockwvenom, what video card?06:43
stefglSo what does the writing say, venom ? You know, programmers like to put confusing MS-DOS like messages on screen to scare off new users :-)06:43
Innomeni came here because my problem was kinda hard to put into words06:43
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venomand it just seems to give me the same bit of writing at the bottom all the time and ive got a intel vid card wit 64mb ram06:43
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leo_rockwacee1234, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3129695&postcount=406:43
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npnuf1bruenig; thanks, I understood that I should logout and login again.  I have to continue with my mounting problems.06:43
mzuverinkI have a fat32 WD My Book, named as "My Book".  It causes all kinds of problems due to the space and I either want to know how to change it, or if there is a secret to working with spaces in filenames.  Formating is out of the question unless you have a spare 500 gigs for me to use as backup.  I just want to change the name.  I noticed in mtab, it is reffered to as follows: " /dev/sdb1 /media/My\040Book"  Can I change the na06:44
mzuverinkme somehow without formatting the drive?06:44
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stefgl!doesn't work | venom, we're not psychic readers06:44
ubotuvenom, we're not psychic readers: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.06:44
venomi dn it gives me a bunch of white writing and well one of them say something abbout error then a bunch of numbers06:44
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soundrayacee1234: when you get to that blue screen, see if you can switch to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. If so, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', which calls a wizard for reconfiguring xorg.conf06:44
Innomengod06:44
Innomenyou guys scold people so much you have shortcuts for it06:44
Innomenthat is a scream06:44
Innomenand kinda neurotic :P06:44
soundrayacee1234: failing that, I suggest you download the Alternate CD, which has a text-based installer06:44
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Evanleclol06:45
leo_rockwsoundray, not necessary06:45
frogdusterEek.06:45
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leo_rockwsoundray, i have that same video card06:45
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soundrayInnomen: it's also essential for keeping this channel under control06:45
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mzuverinkthe use of "!..." anything has gotten ridiculous around here06:45
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Innomenheh06:45
acee1234 soundray: ok thank you06:45
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acee1234 leo_rockw: able to apt-get without internet?06:46
penguincentralmzuverink: it's to call on the bot ;)06:46
leo_rockwmzuverink, i enter this channel just to wait for anybody to ask about automatix so i can pull a "!automatix | noob"06:46
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Innomenand here i thought all those thoughtcops hiding in the crowd like they are innocent shopkeeps did that :P but yea i totally see the purpose but i stand behind my statement, its crazy and funny :)06:46
venomim not to sure what my video card is but i do no that ive used ubuntu on a diffrent PC wit the same cd wit no problem06:46
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leo_rockwacee1234, i believe so06:46
leo_rockwacee1234, you have to do a sudo apt-get update first06:46
venomi wish i could get a screeny of the error i get06:46
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usr13Trying to use kpilot to connect to a Treo 650 and it's not happening.  It appears to be trying to connect to /dev/pilot  but /dev/pilot does not exist.  So....?06:46
soundrayacee1234: I'll leave you in the capable hands of leo_rockw. Thanks leo_rockw06:46
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acee1234 leo_rockw: alright ill give it a go thank much all of you06:47
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leo_rockwacee1234, and it will pull the packet from the cd06:47
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leo_rockwacee1234, np06:47
acee1234 leo_rockw: alright06:47
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sacamanoanyone have a good .deb package for Sopcast with GUI"?06:47
soundrayusr13: is it connected via USB?06:47
Innomenhey leo_rockw, whats this automatrix you speak of? :)06:47
leo_rockwsoundray, i have that same video card so i wrote a how-to for it06:47
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leo_rockw!automatix | Innomen06:47
venomis there any other way for me to try ubuntu without the boot up xcuz its just not going to work06:47
ubotuInnomen: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)06:47
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soundrayleo_rockw: is it online?06:48
leo_rockwInnomen, ;-)06:48
Innomenahh how informative :)06:48
leo_rockwsoundray, yeah... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3129695&postcount=406:48
Innomenthank you06:48
usr13soundray, yes, usb cable06:48
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Innomenand here i tuought it had something to do with optimus prime06:48
leo_rockwInnomen, oh, my pleasure06:48
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soundrayusr13: try a 'sudo ln -sf /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/pilot' to link the device name to the actual device.06:49
leo_rockwInnomen, no... that's the gimp06:49
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soundrayleo_rockw: thanks. Do you know if gutsy has the same trouble?06:49
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leo_rockwsoundray, i am using gutsy, but i upgraded from feisty so idk06:49
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venomwell its really strange i load the cd thats fine then i press start i get some greenlines behind the ubuntu screen then it all goes black wit a bunch of errors on the bottom indecated by numbers06:50
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atlfalcons866how do i delete ubuntu06:50
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sonetreHi all, first time installing ubuntu and it stops booting with: VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb7" or unknown-block(0,0) / I tried different root=.. options in grub but the same result...any help would be really appreciated06:50
Innomenvenom i'd snag the alt version and do the txt installer06:50
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Innomenor did someone already say that06:50
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soundrayleo_rockw: well done for writing that howto06:50
leo_rockwatlfalcons866, a big magnet will do the trick06:50
venomcan u tell me were to get it06:51
leo_rockwsoundray, :-D06:51
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leo_rockwsoundray, a sticky for it would be kewl06:51
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atlfalcons866not delete ubuntu i meant remove gnome06:51
Innomenmaybe the bot can06:51
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atlfalcons866i installed kde and i love it06:51
Innomenis there a command guys for where to get the alternative version?06:51
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Innomen!alternate06:51
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal06:51
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Innomenthere we go06:51
Innomengood guess06:51
Piaskalhi06:51
stefglhttp://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html <- good guide on how to ask questions and get an actual answer06:51
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Innomen(12:50:49 PM) leo_rockw: atlfalcons866, a big magnet will do the trick06:52
Innomenlol06:52
usr13soundray,  /dev/ttyUSB0  does not exist on my system.  (OS = 7.04)06:52
leo_rockwInnomen, you're evil! lol06:52
PiciInnomen: Theres a checkbox on the download page on ubuntu.com for the alternate cd.06:52
Innomenright on06:52
leo_rockwatlfalcons866, there's a very easy way, but i don't remember it. lemme google it06:52
Innomenvenom was askin and i figured the bot would know06:52
geniiatlfalcons866: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop           (if you have already apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop)06:52
Innomeni deserve a freakin oreo06:52
leo_rockwatlfalcons866, or do what genii says ;-)06:52
soundrayusr13: it should once you plug the Treo in. Do a 'ls /dev/ttyUSB*' - it may have a different number.06:52
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leo_rockwInnomen, mmmhhh... ooooreooo06:53
soundrayusr13: in fact, there may be two devices.06:53
Cyber_Stalkerumm06:53
Innomenday 3 and i'm answerin questions06:53
Cyber_Stalkeri have xmms and im struggling to play media on a disk06:53
leo_rockwInnomen, i can't do this every day06:53
Innomenleo_rockw:  i know man shut up *drool*06:53
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Cyber_Stalkerhow do i enque the shiznit on the disk with xmms06:53
Innomen*searches for cookies*06:53
venomall i ever wanted was a good LINUX :( DAM PC'S DAM THEM TO COMPUTER HELL06:53
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usr13I see:  /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyUSB0    after issuing above comand.  But,    ls /dev/ttyUSB0   says that the file does not exist.06:53
smacfarlso i was running the 7.10 update when I had a power failure! If I rerun will I be able to just pick up where it was stopped?06:53
Innomenvenom: dude06:53
Innomengo get the alt06:53
leo_rockwInnomen, i hang out in the argentina LoCo all day. i run out of questions to answer so i come here.06:53
Dr_willisCyber_Stalker,  open up the playlist, add a directory (or drag/drop files) you may want to use somthing other then xmms - xmms is geting a bit out of date.06:54
Innomenit'll solve yur problem06:54
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venomIM WORKING ON IT INNOMEN06:54
Innomenok ok06:54
Innomenlol06:54
Innomensorry man06:54
soundrayusr13: ls /dev/ttyUSB*06:54
Piaskalis ther any way to make ubiquity not run "ntfsresize -i -f" when installing ubuntu. i got 150 gb ntfs partition and it takes ages.06:54
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usr13soundray,  there may be two devices?06:54
smacfarlanyone?06:54
Cyber_StalkerDr_willis:06:54
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leo_rockwvenom... you need to fight the symbionte. big bells will help you get rid of it. it worked for peter parker06:54
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Innomenif it makes you feel better my umbutu install fried my mbr and now niether os will boot06:54
stefglhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- even better guide on how to ask questions, most of which you're able to answer yourself after reading it :-)06:54
venomim getting the dapper version think it will solve my problem innomen ??06:55
Cyber_Stalkerhow do i browse to the disk... cause i have checking /media/ and none of the cdrom links have any tracks06:55
smacfarlpowerful during 7.10 update, will the update be able to fix this if I rerun it?06:55
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leo_rockwInnomen, how come? grub doesn't touch the mbr06:55
smacfarlanyone?06:55
usr13 No such file or directory06:55
Cyber_Stalker!music06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:55
Innomenleo_rockw: wow are you a big dork for knowing that or am i a big dork for knowing that06:55
Cyber_Stalker!musicplayer06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about musicplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:55
Cyber_Stalker!music player06:55
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music player - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:55
Cyber_Stalkerlol06:55
Innomenleo_rockw: something did06:55
leo_rockwInnomen, we both are big dorks06:55
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Cyber_Stalker!mp306:55
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smacfarlare there any experts in the channel?06:55
sonetreHi all, first time installing ubuntu and it stops booting with: VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb7" or unknown-block(0,0) / I tried different root=.. options in grub but the same result...any help would be really appreciated06:55
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:55
stefgl!player | Cyber_Stalker06:55
ubotuCyber_Stalker: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs06:55
Innomenit wont install on my machine06:55
leo_rockwsmacfarl, yes, Innomen06:55
Innomenspent 5-6 hours on it06:55
Innomenask ikonia if you see her06:56
Marfion my menu bar, everything under "applications" is gone. how do i recover it?06:56
Cyber_Stalkerwould audacious be best06:56
Cyber_Stalker?06:56
wwalkerI want to be able to click in a window without raising the window to the top.  Where do I change that?06:56
stefgl!best | Cyber_Stalker06:56
Innomeni'm backing up in prep for a total wipe06:56
ubotuCyber_Stalker: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.06:56
Poundohas anyone has success connecting a usb drive to linux on vmware I asked over at vmware must be lunch time06:56
leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, what are you trying to do?06:56
soundrayusr13: yes -- Ubuntu creates two e.g. for my wife's Palm T|X06:56
Dr_willisCyber_Stalker,  thats an audio EDITOR program.06:56
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alcoholicMy resolv.conf gets override again and again by network manager and i have to manually edit it and give the nameserver. i dont know why its getting override can any one help me with it06:56
Dr_willisoh wait thats audacity.. :)06:56
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smacfarlinnomen my 7.10 upgrade was interrupted by a power failure. Will restarting the upgrade with gksudo update-manager -c -d fix things?06:56
leo_rockwDr_willis, no, it isn't06:56
Dr_willismy mistake.06:56
Cyber_Stalkerok well which would be the most popular music player06:56
leo_rockwDr_willis, yeah, lol06:56
Dr_willistoo many aud's :)06:56
jporti like amarok06:56
Cyber_Stalkeri just wanna be able to play my music simply06:56
leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, AMAROK!06:56
usr13I see: /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  etc,,06:56
Marfiamarok ftw06:56
Cyber_Stalkerok06:56
Cyber_Stalkerapt get here i come06:57
Dr_willisCyber_Stalker,  install a few try them.. if you cant figure out xmms.. well.. thats not a good sign. :)06:57
leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, you did install the propietary codecs, right?06:57
kitchesmacfarl: it "should"06:57
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Cyber_Stalkernah xmms just giving hastles06:57
murlidharmy media player Listen keeps hanging why???06:57
Innomensmacfarl: i dont see why not, but i dont know what gksudo means and i've only got 3 days exp with ubuntu, ask leo here06:57
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Cyber_Stalkerleo_rockw: as far as i know yes06:57
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leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, ok... just making sure06:57
Cyber_Stalkerit was a while ago that i set up my music shiznit06:57
Dr_willisxmms playlist has a + button, add dir.. point it to the muzak dir.06:57
enanoHi! Can anyone take a look here, http://rafb.net/p/WdprDM59.html and tell me why I get those errors when compiling (their at the bottom), I can't figure it out. Thanks!06:57
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leo_rockwmurlidhar, we will probly need more information06:57
thomash_hi06:57
smacfarlleo is gksudo update-manager -c -d the correct command to restart my upgrade tp 7.1006:57
smacfarl?06:57
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Picismacfarl: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.06:58
Innomeni installed ubuntu on my laptop drunk out of my mind, very user friendly06:58
Cyber_Stalkerwhy does amarok have to download 50mb of stuff...06:58
Cyber_Stalker?06:58
murlidharleo_rockw: wait06:58
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Innomenbut my desktop is just angry with me for even suggesting ubuntu06:58
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kitchesmacfarl: as I said it should start where it left off06:58
leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, because it uses the qt libraries06:58
thomash_i'm running feisty... it doesn't seem to provide the latest version of imagemagick. any way I can install a newer version using a package?06:58
venominnomen would u be able to ponit me to some alt installers ??06:58
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Innomenvenom did you see the bot thing?06:58
leo_rockwsmacfarl, if you dont know it, then you probly shouldnt be upgrading to gutsy anyway06:58
Dr_willisCyber_Stalker,  lots of dependencies would be my guess06:58
Innomen!alternative06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:58
Innomen!alternative06:59
leo_rockw!alternate | venom06:59
ubotuvenom: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal06:59
stefgl!download06:59
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive06:59
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Innomengah06:59
Innomenyea what he said06:59
leo_rockwInnomen, i told you. i come to this channel to do the ! thing06:59
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Cyber_Stalkeri dont want to/cant download 50mb of stuff atm06:59
Innomeni';ll let you handle it06:59
leo_rockwCyber_Stalker, then use rythmbox06:59
Innomen:P06:59
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leo_rockwInnomen, ty! lol06:59
Innomenok then mr smarty pants06:59
venomi couldn't find it innomen ive just tried to find it06:59
Innomenhmmm06:59
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Innomenyou're i386 right?07:00
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Poundohow can I tell what the device is thats mounted at say /dev/sda5 or /dev/sda207:00
Innomeni'll go get you a link07:00
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leo_rockwvenom, seriously... the alternate install is in the ubuntu web page07:00
venomTY VM07:00
Picivenom: Its on the ubuntu.com/download page, there is a checkbox if you want the alternate cd07:00
Innomenyou want a torrent or a direct dl?07:00
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venomwait a sec07:00
Pici!away > EldemonAWAY (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)07:00
Innomeni dont mind doing the grunt work for him07:00
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Cyber_Stalkerleo_rockw: coudlnt find package :D07:00
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venomis this like having to burn it onto CD ?07:00
stefglCyber_Stalker: amarok is a KDE app, so it pulls all the KDE-libs as dependency. try exaile for a gtk (gnome) equivalent07:00
Innomeni would assume so07:00
soundrayPoundo: try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if that answers your question07:00
Innomencan you install it off a usb?07:00
Innomen!usb07:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:01
venombecuse ive got like 3 CD shipped from Ubuntu its self07:01
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Cyber_Stalkerahhh nice07:01
Innomen!flashdrive07:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:01
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Cyber_Stalker500kb of download07:01
Pici!msgthebot | Innomen07:01
Cyber_Stalkerdecent :D07:01
ubotuInnomen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:01
leo_rockwvenom, the canonical cds are non alternate07:01
Duke_nuke!joystick07:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:01
venomso the CD's are whats screweu07:01
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Innomenuhhh07:01
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Innomenpici: thats very confusing07:01
lpagnoniq07:01
Poundosoundray: no that jsut lists the devices no indication of what they actually are07:01
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leo_rockwInnomen, don't annoy ubotu, he's kewl07:01
venomright hang on07:01
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venomlet me explane07:02
PiciInnomen: Whats confusing?07:02
Innomeni didnt relize i was07:02
murlidharok when after importing a folder my media application works good but the moment i play a song it just hangs although i can hear the music. Here is the pastebin when i start from terminal07:02
lpagnonihello07:02
murlidharhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39386/07:02
soundrayPoundo: I'm not sure what kind of information you are looking for.07:02
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humehi... I am trying to copy a vcd disc with k3b, but get error - k3b complains about the video cd contains multiple data tracks - how come? how can I then copy a vcd?07:02
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Innomenthe use of the bot07:02
Innomenexplain to me what that investigate means07:02
usr13soundray, Any other ideas07:02
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Poundosoundray: i would like to know if sda2 is the cdrom or is it sda507:02
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Innomeni'm not allowed to use ! commands to get an answer?07:02
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venomi have 3 Cds from Ubuntu but i can't run them passed the start screen it just stops dead with a black screen with white writing at the bottom so unless there is a diffrent way to install im stuck07:03
soundrayPoundo: neither. Both are partitions on your first hard disk drive.07:03
g0rd0nis there a skype version for ubuntu amd64?07:03
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Innomenvenom can you not dl and burn cds at the moment?07:03
venomso thats whats wrong07:03
penguin42g0rd0n: You can run most 32bit stuff on amd64 with a bit of patience07:03
soundrayusr13: what did 'ls /dev/ttyUSB*' say?07:03
RonMetalhablan espaol??07:03
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stefglInnomen: feel free to bother ubotu with /msg ubotu factoid07:03
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soundray!es | RonMetal07:03
ubotuRonMetal: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:03
venomwell yea but ive downloaded ubuntu about 5 times same problem07:03
PiciInnomen: Not if you are unsure what the command is.  either `/msg ubotu` to figure out the right syntax or dont.07:03
Innomenahhhh07:04
Cyber_Stalkerwhen i insert a cd "sound juicer" pops up and offers to play the tracks but i cant play it with anything else07:04
Innomenoky you dont want me hacking it (to use the original meaning)07:04
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Picivenom: Are any of them the alternate CD?07:04
Poundosoundray: oh so how can i tell if I have the usb connected and can then mount it if i don't see it via fdsik -l07:04
Innomenbut its cool if i know what i'm after, right?07:04
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Innomenvenom: yea but did you get the laternate version?07:04
venomhow can i tell pici and eem whats ur idea of hacking it cuz im open to sergestions innomen07:04
PiciInnomen: Yes. but dont spam 5 !factoids at one person either, thats annoying.  Not that I saw this, but just in general.07:04
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g0rd0npenguin42: is there a deb package or something?07:05
leo_rockwInnomen, ubotu is so kewl. i've seen a lot of users trying to talk w/ it before.07:05
soundrayPoundo: try lsusb to see if the device is recognized07:05
Innomenpici: cool cool thats fair07:05
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venomhow can i tell if they are autinative ??07:05
Innomenleo_rockw: i usta talk to alice bot all the time07:05
Picivenom: Is it the LiveCD?07:05
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penguin42g0rd0n: There are packages caleld ia32blah - do an apt-cache search for ia32-*  and install all of those, and I think there is a package called linux3207:05
Innomenvenom: just sit tight i'll hand you a link07:05
soundrayPoundo: and 'dmesg | tail' after plugging in to see the device name assigned07:05
Innomen!alternate07:05
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal07:05
venomi think they are live yea07:05
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leo_rockwInnomen, i have spleak... she's just dumb07:05
Cyber_Stalker7 minutes to rip a cd...07:05
Cyber_Stalkergosh07:05
Innomenbrb07:05
Cyber_Stalkerwhat is this world comming to07:05
venomthe live that also allows install07:05
Picivenom: Okay, then thats not the AlternateCD.07:05
venomso the alternatecd might let me install ?07:06
Picivenom: The alternateCD has greater compatibility with different hardware.07:06
venomooo07:06
atlfalcons866linus torvalds dosent like gnome07:06
Poundosoundray: lsusb didn't show anything. I'll check dmesg07:06
leo_rockwvenom, the alternate cd is for text installation07:06
Picivenom: Much greater chance than using the liveCD.07:06
magnetronatlfalcons866: so?07:06
leo_rockwatlfalcons866, no, he asked people to switch to kde07:06
venomwill it allow me to run it live b4 install ??07:06
Innomenvenom: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso07:06
leo_rockwvenom, no it wont07:06
atlfalcons866he says07:06
Picivenom: No. It wont07:06
atlfalcons866"This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do."07:06
Pici!offtopic | atlfalcons86607:06
ubotuatlfalcons866: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:07
venomcuz i don't wanna go wiping my whole XP and ty Innomen07:07
soundrayPoundo: did it show busses at least?07:07
Innomennp, best i can do07:07
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Innomeni newb but not lazy heheh07:07
MaliqueWell guys, #debian wasn't much fun. They tend to ignore you, and fail to read what your asking, and were no help to me at all :(07:07
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InnomenMalique: this is the only place i've ever had linux people even talk to me without useing racial slurs07:07
venomwill i beable to make a new part in my harddrive or will i have to use some sort of program07:08
Poundosoundray: nothing i tried lsusb -v and zip07:08
leo_rockwInnomen, that's their way of saying i <3 you07:08
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Innomeni know but it gets old07:08
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ravHey, does anyone know how i can enable rendering on 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)07:08
soundrayMalique: I don't think your problem can be solved, due to the limitations of HTTP07:08
Innomeni grew up in kentucky, i really hate the race thing07:08
leo_rockwInnomen, rtfm is uber love07:08
murlidharsomebody help when i play a song in my media player "listen" it gets hanged up as if i am using a windows vista http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39386/07:08
penguin42rav: That should work ok with feisty07:08
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rafael__hello. how can i play dvd on ubuntu ?07:09
rafael__is it possible ?07:09
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Pici!dvd > rafael__ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)07:09
leo_rockwrafael__, yes it is07:09
venomOMG im ganan be here forever its downloading at 13 KBs07:09
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rafael__thank u07:09
MaliqueLOL, I had one who implied I was stupid when he didn't even read what I was after, when I posted it TWICE in an extended and simplistic way for his timy brain to comprehend LOL07:09
venomOMG im ganan be here forever its downloading at 13 KBs07:09
Innomenanyone remeber the term "lamer" ?07:09
ravyeah, i thought so too, but i did that glxinfo | grep direct07:09
rav and i got a big fat no07:09
bastid_raZorInnomen: i live in KY now.. South Eastern area..07:09
elfrangerI am still needing some assistance on resiziong/moving my partitions... anyone with good knowledge up for it?07:09
venommake that 707:09
Innomenvenom07:09
Maliquesoundray: it's not so much HTTP I think that's limited in this case, it's more apt07:09
magnetronrav: the hardware rendering is quite slow on those cards, maybe you have it enabled without noticing07:09
Innomenpick a diffrent mirrior07:09
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rafael__i have libdvdcss2 and when i try to watch a dvd on vlc it doesnt load07:10
MaliqueIt can't be redirected to HTTP addresses not on the server07:10
Innomenhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors07:10
ravbut when i glxinfo | grep direct it says no07:10
rafael__and totem says i dont have handle codec07:10
rafael__so.. i dont know07:10
leo_rockwvenom, be nice and use torrents. you'll be doing the host a favor07:10
magnetronvenom: do you want to download ubuntu faster? use bittorrent07:10
soundrayrafael__: you nead libdvdread. Please read the link that ubotu sent.07:10
rafael__soundray, i have it07:10
rafael__:)07:10
Maliquetrdracer: Ubuntu is awesome, but you should expect that being in this room :) hehe07:10
Innomenmy otrreent came down at half a meg a second07:10
rafael__everything ok here07:10
jporttrdracer: You will never make a better decision in your life :-)07:10
Innomenit was aweinspiring07:10
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trdraceri currently have xp pro sp2...and getting tiredof it.07:11
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trdracerubuntu seems user friendly.07:11
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Innomeni love it so far07:11
ravso how do i enable rendering?07:11
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Innomenjust the idea of it being free07:11
leo_rockwrav, depends on your video card brand07:11
PetarMhi07:11
venominnomen are there any oter places for faster downloading i mean 8kbs is slow07:11
Innomenno conspiracy crap07:11
leo_rockwhi PetarM07:11
elfrangerboohooo07:11
jportInnomen: how long have you been using ubuntu ?07:11
trdracercan i install over windows?07:11
Innomenvenom i gave you the list07:11
Innomenhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors07:11
trdracerand then if i dont like it install windows back right over ubuntU?07:12
Innomenpick one you think is fast07:12
ravits the integrated card on my chipset07:12
PetarMwhats going on here: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15596/ ?! want to install banshee, it requires build-essential but won't install hisself07:12
leo_rockwtrdracer, you can if you want07:12
elfrangertrdracer: try the livecd first...07:12
SlimeyPetetrdracer: you'll have to remove Windows and set up a Linux partition, but you can use the Ubuntu installer to do that.07:12
soundraytrdracer: yes. Just let either installer take control of the entire disk.#07:12
ravIntel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device07:12
FBSoulManI'm trying to resolve a permissions issue with nfs.  If I try to mount an export on my client, I get "permission denied"07:12
SlimeyPetetrdracer: or else you can keep Windows and dual-boot, if you have space.07:12
cyranoHi. I've got an issue with some movies i've downloaded through torrents. Their Avi files and show an icon from the movie, but when i play them in movie player or VLC the app just closes. I can't play them in Mplayer either. I know it may well be the files being bad or corrupt, bu is there a way to debug them or check it out?07:12
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trdraceri dont really have any space.07:12
trdracerso its one ofr the other07:12
FBSoulManThis export is an NTFS partition I mounted on the server using ntfs-3g.  It shows owner and group root but rwx for user grp and world07:13
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venomthere we go ty innomen07:13
Innomennp07:13
venomits going much faster now07:13
MaliqueAhh dual boot, the only reason I have ever needed that since switching is to run certain games that don't run native or under wine. And since I upgraded my computer a few months ago I still haven't reinstalled Windows on that other partition, so far haven't needed to :)07:13
InnomenExcellant07:13
leo_rockwrav, mmhh... i only did it w/ an ati, sorry07:13
venom2 hours i can wait without going mad :P07:13
FBSoulManI am able to mount a normal linux partition from the server on the client (home dir)07:14
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leo_rockwMalique, which games? i have enough w/ tremulous07:14
Innomenmaliqure thats awesome07:14
InnomenMalique* i meant07:14
leo_rockwvenom, i'm guessing you never were on dial-up, huh?07:14
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MaliqueHaven't played tremulous, but I play Guild Wars under wine, Planeshift natively, and lately I haven't played anything besides those two07:15
venomim downloading 6.06 alternate-amd-64 will that do the job ??07:15
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MaliqueThus the main reason why I didn't need Windows07:15
`Matirvenom, why 6.06?07:15
leo_rockwMalique, if you like mmporpgs you could try regnum online07:15
venomfastest download i could find07:15
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venomthats y07:15
leo_rockwvenom, if you're a linux newb 64bits isn't the smartest choice07:16
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Picivenom: That version is over a year old.07:16
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leo_rockwPici, it is lts anyway07:16
Maliqueleo_rockw: I tried Regnum, it seemed a little... foreign LOL. Unless they have another server maybe with more than 4 English-speaking people on I can talk to haha07:16
venomi can't find no links for the alternate new version thats not faster the 6kbs on my download07:16
leo_rockwMalique, i'm from argentina, just like the game lol07:16
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Picileo_rockw: I know, but I just have a feeling he'll regret it07:16
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leo_rockwPici, he'll regret more the 64bits choice...07:17
Picivenom: Most if not all of the mirrors have an alternate .07:17
Picileo_rockw: indeed.07:17
trdracerwill ubuntu delete files i currently have on my discdrive?07:17
venomso is there anything i can do07:17
leo_rockwtrdracer, only if you let it07:17
Innomenwell even if he gets an old one he can update07:17
venomto get a faster speed07:17
Innomenthats what i did to this laptop07:17
Picivenom: Whats the address of the file that was downloading the fastest for you?07:17
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ravtheres no way to enable rendering?07:17
Innomenhey maybe thats what i need to do to my desktop07:17
Maliqueleo_rockw: Ahhh so you probably don't have much trouble. I felt a little outside when I tried playing it LOL07:18
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fredikkhello i have ubuntu breezy installed in a pc and i have some difficulties install packages with apt-get. Actually i'm thinking that maybe these repos i have do exist anymore.could this be happening?07:18
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leo_rockwMalique, that's what i heard. i was pretty comfortable using argentine slang in there lol07:18
venomhttp://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/dapper/07:18
ar3acfirefox freeze07:18
ar3acsome help ?07:18
venomit was that link07:18
venomhttp://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/dapper/07:18
Innomenbbl peeps07:18
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leo_rockwar3ac, that's not enough information07:18
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visofcan i know speed distribution for lan users?07:18
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leo_rockwInnomen, l8r07:19
ar3acleo_rockw, after e dist-upgrade on my feisty07:19
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ar3acfirefox crash07:19
`muppetanyone got any links for downloading ubuntu live cd? thanks07:19
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ar3acgive me a Segmentation Fault07:19
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leo_rockwar3ac, did you check LP to see if anybody reported a bug?07:19
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Tomcat_`muppet: www.ubuntu.com/download07:19
leo_rockwar3ac, what ubuntu are you using?07:19
ar3acleo_rockw, i saw something in the forum07:19
visofcan i know speed distribution for lan users?07:19
ar3aclet me tell you the right thread07:20
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leo_rockwar3ac, well, i don't even use FF07:20
ar3acleo_rockw, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563027&highlight=firefox+epiphany07:20
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trdraceris it possible that if i have two separate logins ii can install ubuntu on one? (for example one is admin account and the other is another)BUT ITS WINDOWS LOGIN+07:20
ar3acleo_rockw, same things happen with epiphany07:20
atlfalcons866will shipit have gusty gibbon cds07:20
habbledhow do you format a usb hard drive on ubuntu?07:20
leo_rockwatlfalcons866, not yet07:20
atlfalcons866habbled:what fs do you want to have07:20
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`muppetTomcat_ i looked there first, it didnt seem to have the live cd downloads07:21
habbledatlfalcons866: fat3207:21
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Tomcat_`muppet: "Desktop Edition" = LiveCD07:21
leo_rockwar3ac, post in the thread and wait for an answer07:21
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atlfalcons866habbled: install gparted07:21
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leo_rockwar3ac, that problem seems to be recent07:21
habbledatlfalcons866: i have kubuntu actually07:21
leo_rockwar3ac, use a different browser in the meantime07:21
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atlfalcons866go to #kubuntu07:22
snoogiesomeone have successfully install and use :D GNU GCJ and classpath ?07:22
habbledk07:22
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`muppetTomcat_ ok, thanks07:22
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peter_i have a problem getting my webcam to work....when i type lsusb it shows up .....canorama doesnt' detect it.....it works in ekiga though .......and kopete deosnt detect it either......any thoughts?07:22
leo_rockwhabbled, it doesn't matter those things are the same in kubuntu and ubuntu07:22
leo_rockwpeter_, hello again07:22
peter_hi07:23
Picifredikk: Breezy is past !EOL. I think there are still repos open on old-releases.ubuntu.com07:23
peter_never solve that probelm07:23
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leo_rockwpeter_, webcams are hard to make work07:23
Picifredikk: You really should upgrade though.07:23
benzs_scamorama07:23
peter_yea07:23
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uahuhahi07:23
leo_rockwpeter_, from what i gather you're lucky it even works in ekiga07:23
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leo_rockwhi uahuha07:24
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uahuhacan you suggest me webcam software that uses v4l2?07:24
peter_yea i think so too but then i doent even use ekiga ...i was just testing it ouit07:24
leo_rockwpeter_, there, help uahuha w/ his webcam, haha07:24
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joe4444i'm trying to rebuild my ipod library using Rhythmbox, but after deleting all my tracks in Rhythmbox the files remain on the iPod... it appears that only the track entries in the database were deleted, so how can i delete the actual files?  also, is it possible to delete playlists on the iPod with Rhythmbox?07:24
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peter_lol07:24
peter_funny lol07:24
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uahuha!v4l07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about v4l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:24
uahuha!v4l207:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about v4l2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:24
uahuhaekiga works but i want a program that let me to make video and photos ...07:25
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uahuhait's possible that doesn't exist nothing of this?07:25
leo_rockwuahuha, peter_ has the same problem07:25
peter_i think i'll just get another one and hope it works...i'll check their list of compatible cams07:25
uahuhapeter_: resolved?07:25
leo_rockwuahuha, nope he's been here since yday07:25
peter_nope07:25
alcoholicMy resolv.conf gets override again and again by network manager and i have to manually edit it and give the nameserver. i dont know why its getting override can any one help me with it07:26
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leo_rockwalcoholic, i think i can, actually07:26
peter_i had given up on the cam but just tested it for fun on ekiga and the thing came on ...so i was confused07:26
habbledatlfalcon866: it didnt work07:26
leo_rockwalcoholic, you want to set a dns?07:26
alcoholicleo_rockw:  i set a dns .. but it keeps on changing07:26
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alcoholicto nameserver 10.0.0.1 which is my ip07:27
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angasulehello, is there a graphical front end for at (or cron)? I'm using kde, but if there is one for gnome I'd like to see it (kcron is no good)07:27
leo_rockwalcoholic, ok, i did that yday, lemme look for the guide07:27
alcoholicleo_rockw:  it would be so nice of u07:27
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leo_rockwalcoholic, i set up opendns yday and it told me how to avoid resolv.conf from changing07:27
leo_rockwalcoholic, https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu07:28
uahuhapeter_: http://sn-webcam.sourceforge.net/ i try to install this07:28
leo_rockwalcoholic, the part that says "to avoid having your settings..."07:28
HOkehello ppl, i need php editor with code completion07:28
HOkewas using dreamwaver in windows but im searching for a free editor with the same qulitity i tried thr eclipse but its not compliting the code07:28
leo_rockwalcoholic, and change the ip to w/e you want07:28
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leo_rockwHOke, i heard nvu is good07:29
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leo_rockwHOke, never tried it myself, tho07:29
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ravHey, ok, i have a ATI rage PRO VGA, how do i switch from my integrated VGA to the ATI one?07:29
alcoholicchecking07:30
leo_rockwrav, i believe you can do that from the bios07:30
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ravno, when i do that ubunbtu wont boot up07:30
ravubuntu*07:30
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leo_rockwalcoholic, when you do the ifdown internet connection will stop07:31
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leo_rockwalcoholic, just letting you know that's normal07:31
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Grundokohey. i was wondering if someone culd tell me how to add fonts to use with aMSN07:31
ravany other way?07:31
HOkeleo_rockw, any other recommendation rather than nvu07:31
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peter_sn webcam project ?07:31
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leo_rockwHOke, i believe there's another one that's good, but i don't remember the name. google for any table of alternate linux apps.07:32
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leo_rockwrav, i don't have an built in card, idk how to help you07:32
Grundoko,07:32
leo_rockwGrundoko, actually, i saw a howto somewhere, hold on07:33
Grundokok07:33
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templar^is this a place you are allowed to ask questions or no?07:34
leo_rockwGrundoko, how good are you w/ spanish? http://www.openside.com.ar/how-to13.php07:34
Tomcat_!ask | templar^07:34
ubotutemplar^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:34
leo_rockwtemplar^, you just asked one07:34
mckenseyhola necesito ayuda con mi disco duro07:34
Grundokoi dont know a single word in spanish07:34
Grundokoill use google language tools07:34
Grundokothanks07:34
mckenseyno me deja grabar archivos en el07:34
leo_rockwmckensey, join ubuntu-es or ubuntu-ar07:34
ompaul!es07:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:34
leo_rockwmckensey, solo ingles aca07:34
chimaerahi, is the a tool to manage partition/mount-points (like the appropriate guidance module for kde)?07:35
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alcoholicthx leo_rockw07:35
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leo_rockwalcoholic, my pleassure07:35
templar^I'm trying to get XGL running properly on 7.10 beta (gnome) but when I install xserver-xgl and restart X it just sits on a blank orange screen after login until it eventually restarts X07:35
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leo_rockwGrundoko, if you need help w/ smth i can translate07:36
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agrokerwhy gnuchess is incompatible with Gnome under GG?07:36
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uahuhaagroker: try xboard ;)07:36
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agrokeruahuha, you are kidding, right?07:36
^LadyVaMpIrKa^.omega.bg07:37
^LadyVaMpIrKa^ops07:37
uahuhaagroker: no07:37
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leo_rockwagroker, i usually tend to believe that people doing this: ;) are kidding07:37
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agrokeruahuha, I have xboard installed, what's next?07:37
uahuhawell use it on freechess.org ;)07:38
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agrokeruahuha, ok, got it :-)07:38
leo_rockwwho plays chess anyway when there's tremulous07:38
habbledanyone here know how to use fdisk to format a drive and put fat32 on it?07:39
magnetrondeep blue does, leo_rockw07:39
agroker!tell agroker about tremulous07:39
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LeovenousAnyone up to my installation problem? (Ubuntu Server)07:39
magnetron!msgthebot > agroker07:39
agrokerleo_rockw, what is tremulous?07:39
PKdoRi need help deleting a file07:39
leo_rockwmagnetron, yeah, but deep blue is grumpy07:39
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leo_rockwagroker, just the best fps + rts game ever created07:39
PoundoUSB question dmesg shows "usb 1-1 new full speed device using uhci_hcd and address 3" How do i mount this07:40
habbledanyone know how to use fdisk to format a usb drive with fdisk and put fat32 on it?07:40
leo_rockwagroker, nothing to do w/ chess, lol07:40
ompaulhabbled, sudo fdisk /dev/sda-orwhatever07:40
leo_rockwagroker, but i'm addicted to it07:40
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agrokerleo_rockw, very funny, magnetron is trheatening me with op measures ;-)07:40
habbledompaul, then what, i got to that point, didnt know what option to do07:40
PKdoRI cant erase a file cause it say i dont have permission to delete it please help07:40
leo_rockwagroker, well, i didn't ask you to use !07:40
pr0fxso I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?07:40
ompaulhabbled, use m for help and it talks you though it07:40
agrokerleo_rockw, sure you did not07:41
profanephobiahow can i unmount a binded dir?07:41
Dr_willisPKdoR,  and what file is this you are trying to delete?07:41
leo_rockwagroker, but seriously, tremulous is great07:41
PoundopkdoR: type sudo the rm but be carefull07:41
habbledompaul, k ty07:41
agrokerleo_rockw, FPS? ah, ok07:41
leo_rockwagroker, i have like 3 different chess installed and i never play them07:41
PKdoRDr_willis: its a folder i created but07:41
leo_rockwagroker, no, it's fps + rts07:42
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leo_rockwagroker, you get to build a base so strategy is involved07:42
agrokerleo_rockw, and use to have xboard+gnuchess ony installed and played them07:42
PKdoRdr_ i can move it and paste it but it wont get erased07:42
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Dr_willisPKdoR,  clarify.. you can create files in the dir. but cant delete the file you just made?07:43
Absolute0how do i insmod modules at boot time automatically?07:43
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Dr_willis!modules07:43
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 07:43
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leo_rockwagroker, there's 3d chess and dreamchess07:43
stdinAbsolute0: add the module name to /etc/modules07:43
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Dr_willisI can never get the 3d part of 3d chess to work07:44
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Absolute0stdin: can i include a path with that?07:44
habbledompaul, hrrm cant find fat32 on the l option07:44
Absolute0or i need to move the modules to the standard dir?07:44
leo_rockwDr_willis, i think that was a bug in ubuntu07:44
agrokerleo_rockw, I'm going to try them, but remember n ot liking their GUIs07:44
pr0fxso I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?07:44
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leo_rockwDr_willis, it worked for me in kubuntu i believe07:44
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stdinAbsolute0: no, it only looks in the standard place (you need to run "sudo depmod -a" after putting a new module there)07:44
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mckenseyI need help with my hard disk07:45
Absolute0stdin: whats the standard dir for modules?07:45
Dr_willisleo_rockw,  tried ubuntu/kubuntu/added stuff (in gutsy now) it says it needs this package for 3d.. i install it and anything i can find related to it.. No deal. :)07:45
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PKdoRDr_willis: its a folder that i created to save compiz themes to from the net and i am able to move the folder and add to it and even move it to the recyclw but the recylce CCANT empty it out cause I have no permission07:45
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pr0fxmckensey: setting up for a new install ?07:45
leo_rockwDr_willis, maybe i only tried dreamchess... i don't remember07:45
stdinAbsolute0: /lib/modues/KERNEL_VERSION07:45
Dr_willisPKdoR,  sounds like your permissions got set weird. use sudo and remove it as the root user i guess.07:45
Poundoany takers on what I mount if it's listed as "uhci_hcd and address 3" in dmesg07:45
templar^any XGL experts around?07:45
Poundousb that is07:45
PKdoRDr_willis: now I moved the folder to my home to see if i can remove it with a command from the term07:46
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Absolute0stdin: the installation of rtl-wifi tells me to do insmod on a bunch of modules but the make install wont work07:46
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Absolute0stdin: so i want to automate the insmoding07:46
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nopitosI've upgraded to beta ubuntu and my firefox stopped working. I've read a bug report regarding this, but none of the solutions worked. Any idea?07:46
mckenseythe hard disk dont let me save file07:46
pr0fx!gutsy07:46
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+107:46
Absolute0stdin: how would i go about doing that?07:46
stdinAbsolute0: yeah "sudo make install" will install them07:46
usr13Anyone have any luck getting a Treo650 to HotSync?07:46
Dr_willisPKdoR,  if the permissions are set where the user dosent own/cant change stuff.. then they need to be set.  or use sudo to just delet the thing.07:47
PKdoRwhat the command to show the conntent s of a folder in the terminal?07:47
Dr_willis!bash07:47
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:47
Absolute0stdin: i did that but at rebooting i gotta do the insmodding all over again to get my wireless working07:47
leo_rockwagroker, brutal chess is the one i have07:47
Dr_willistime to learn some shell 101 :)07:47
jportPkdoR: ls -la07:47
usr13Kpilot complains that "device /dev/pilot does not exist"07:47
mckenseyI want to put it like slave07:47
drgathHelp with Proftpd.  When a user uploads a file, I would like the file's group to be set to "www-data" so it is readable by the web-server.  Any way to do that?07:47
agrokerleo_rockw, installing.07:47
maestrojedI am running apache2 on my unbuntu fiesty box.  I don't believe apache is reading my .htaccess files.  I am not sure how to fix this.  I have asked in #apache but had no success, I was hoping someone in here might know the answer.07:47
Absolute0i am gonna try moving the files to that standard module dir07:47
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leo_rockwagroker, brutal chess looks pretty (that's all i can say about it lol)07:48
usr13But /var/log/messages says:  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 207:48
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stdinAbsolute0: "sudo make install" will install them to the right place, but you still need to put the module name(s) in /etc/modules to autoload them07:48
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leo_rockwagroker, i also have pouetchess07:48
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pr0fxso I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?07:48
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usr13Could there be some application I might be missing.07:48
MrPinkcan anyone recommend a good theme installer for Ubuntu GTK 2.2 ?07:49
macdpr0fx, it wouldnt hurt to hand code the res you want into xorg.conf07:49
agrokerleo_rockw, playing at freechess.org now ,thanks :-)07:49
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leo_rockwagroker, np07:49
pr0fxmacd: yeah, but is there anything else I need to consider?07:49
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PKdoRhow can i cd to my home folder from the term?07:49
drgath@maestrojed: look into how debian uses apache sites.  google "a2ensite".  /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is the default profile, and that has script-override off07:49
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pr0fxmacd possibly the h/v rates?07:49
jportPKdor: cd /home/$user07:49
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pr0fxPKdoR: cd ~07:50
macdpr0fx, you may also need to add a MODELINE containing the LCD's res, overscan, scanrates07:50
Absolute0stdin: /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION has a bunch of directories does it matter where i move mine too?07:50
ompaulhabbled, so you got choices - d delete - n create  and l tells you types and look at b --07:50
maestrojeddrgath: ty07:50
PKdoRok ty07:50
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gilosI'm setting up ubuntu server for the first time, is there any recommendations on vnc / secure vnc etc... so that I have remote gui?  don't want to use X07:50
pr0fxmacd: yeah, thats what I was thinking too07:50
Aligornhello07:50
pr0fxtime to research :)07:50
peter_leo ...dapper and kubuntu seem to support my webcam check this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasA4Tech07:50
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stdinAbsolute0: it has to be the right kernel version (the one you're running), use "uname -r" to see07:51
leo_rockwpeter_, kubuntu is just ubuntu w/ a different desktop07:51
drgath@maestrojed: no problem, that issue drove me crazy for literally weeks.  I had no idea the configuration was in sites-available.07:51
Absolute0stdin: i did that07:51
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Absolute0stdin that dir has a bunch of dirs07:51
leo_rockwpeter_, idk why the specified kubuntu feisty07:51
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linux4mei'm looking for ubuntu specific info on setting up LVS, can anyone point me to some good docs?07:51
leo_rockwwhy they*07:51
g0rd0nin the "sound preferences" i need to manually set my sound device, because just setting ALSA will bring the output to my USB phone which i dont want. However, not all applications are respecting the settings in sound preferences. So how do I tell ALSA which device to use by default??07:51
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Absolute0stdin: how do i run a script at boot time?07:52
stdinAbsolute0: have you ran "sudo make install" yet?07:52
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kazim59Does anybody have an idea of what happens inside when someone (me) accidentally spills water over the keyboard? Does it get to working ever?07:52
Absolute0stdin: like 10 times07:52
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leo_rockwwell, it's been a pleasure hanging here, but i g2g07:52
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peter_well i'm lost then.Time to buy a new cam :)07:52
macdpr0fx, once you have fglrx installed you can use the gtf util to generate yourself a modeline07:52
Absolute0stdin: i think the ununtu modules overload it07:52
leo_rockwso goodbye everyone07:52
keitoafter having installed moblock and having it screw itself up in conjunction with firestarter - the whole thing was just a black screen on load - I removed it and cleaned up the system.  it however left me with no top panel in gnome, until i clicked in the vicinity and it re-appeared.  this didn't happen again for several restarts, but it *has* happened.  I like a tidy system, so what in f**** name is going on? HELP!!!!07:52
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LeovenousLOL... kazim... dry it out thoroughly... completely, and if it works it works. If it doesn't, it doesnt.07:53
stdinAbsolute0: then it's probably already been installed there, just put the module names in /etc/modules and try it07:53
Absolute0oh good idea07:53
Absolute0:)07:53
gilosdoes the ubuntu server have a GUI on it?  I guess I should check that first.07:53
Absolute0stdin: thats prolly what i forgot to do07:53
Absolute0:)07:53
scguy318_2gilos: no, but you can install one07:53
squeekeito: when I removed moblock it didn't uninstall fully.  I didn't use it in combination with firestarter, but search your system for what moblock left behind and try removing it07:53
Dr_willisserver = console as the gui. :)07:53
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LinuxJuggalogilos no07:53
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scguy318_2Dr_willis: but black and white is HARDLY graphical now :)07:54
keitosquee: how? - locate moblock?07:54
gilosI'm replace my old redhat server software with ubuntu server... I would prefer a GUI... is it as easy as an apt get install gui.... ?07:54
gilosreplacing07:54
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scguy318_2gilos: simply sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the entire desktop shebang, theres a smaller metapackage for just GNOME or w/e desktop environment07:55
g0rd0ngilos: yes07:55
PKdoRDr_willis: the term say cant remove "compiz Themes" its a directory07:55
jportgilos: you might want to check out webmin07:55
squeekeito, updatedb first but yea that's what I did07:55
LeovenousOkay, I got "Unable to install selected kernel: linux-server"07:55
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keitosquee: looks like I answered my own Question. is there a way to delete all entries automatically?07:55
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squeekeito, probably, I just removed them manually07:56
LeovenousOn a fresh install.07:56
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uahuhapeter_: use videoview :)07:56
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hemanHello all07:56
gilosthank you scguy318_2 and I will google webmin jport07:56
keitosquee: well thanks for the info bro, I'll see if that does anything to help my situation, I hate niggly little bugs07:56
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uahuha make install07:57
uahuhamake: `install' is up to date.07:57
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uahuhawhat does it mean07:57
uahuha?07:57
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keitoI just can't see how moblock could affect my window manager07:57
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hemanplease may someone answer this if they can :P: Where can I get some free linux games to download?07:58
gilosso now that I know how to get the desktop on the server, what's a good way non-X to send it remotely?  I would prefer to do it over SSH07:58
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DaBeowulfHi how do I run in tty3 without X sneaking up on me all the time plz?07:58
scguy318_2heman: there are some in the repos, like Tremulous, the Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure section has some suggestions07:58
PKdoRPoundo: the terminal says "cant remove "folder" its a directory"07:58
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DaBeowulfi.e. when I kill it.07:58
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imscifiwhat package contains the intel 950 graphics adapter drivers?07:59
DaBeowulfIf you need it I can pastebin my xorg.conf07:59
squeekeito, you said that was what was happening at the same time, so it couldn't hurt.07:59
hemanscguy: thankyou ok Ill try that sorry im new to linux and finding it all very confusing07:59
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backbluehi, i need 'http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/heartbeat-gui', when i do apt-cache search heartbeat-gui, i dont have it, why??07:59
scguy318_2heman: no problem, ask any questions you want07:59
Poundoneed help mounting the usb drive07:59
dfgashow do i install fonts?07:59
Absolute0anyone knows when networkmanager will support 801.1x protocol or if its already available in a beta or alph release?07:59
keitosquee: yep it did it straight after restart, after installation07:59
scguy318_2backblue: because heartbeat-gui is in Gutsy, and you probably don't have Gutsy installed, else you would be in #ubuntu+1 :)07:59
Absolute0*802.1x07:59
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LinuxJuggaloPoundo: mount /dedia/drivename08:00
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chamunksDoes anyone know if its at all possible to torrify your bit torrent tracker reports only?08:00
hemanscguy: thankyou08:00
LinuxJuggalosorry08:00
keitosquee: gnome never loaded, it was a black screen with what appeared to be a text box in the top-left (white) though it wouldn't let me type into it (cursor changed though)08:00
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LinuxJuggaloPoundo: mount /media/drivename08:00
scguy318_2chamunks: yes, though its client-specific08:00
chamunksIm using deluge torrent and i want to use Tor08:00
dfgas!font08:00
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:00
backbluescguy318_2: why should i be in #ubuntu+1? i have 7.04, this package does not exists?08:00
scguy318_2chamunks: you must be asking regarding the recent isoHunt decision08:00
keitosquee: booted into kde and it worked and fixed from there08:00
LinuxJuggalo!mount08:00
DaBeowulf!X08:00
chamunksscguy318, i thought it would be because im looking at actually demonoid08:00
squeekeito:  I have no idea why gnome would do that.08:00
Bassxman1im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:    can someone help me with this?08:00
LinuxJuggalo!umount08:00
chamunksscguy318, but whats happening with isohunt?08:00
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:00
hemanscguy: is it worth me staying with linux if im used to windows because I only started using linux because its nice and stylish and I love compiz I didn't really look into more than that...08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:00
keitosquee: strange eh?!08:01
scguy318_2backblue: nope, because you are running Feisty, that package is not in the Feisty repos08:01
squeekeito:  yea08:01
scguy318_2heman: yes, its all a learning process, when you first started with computers, you didn't quite get Windows, did you?08:01
DaBeowulfHow do I stop X from auto-restarting though?08:01
chamunksscguy318, Oh actually im a canadien citizen :P so i have the opposite issue :P08:01
scguy318_2DaBeowulf: i think sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?08:01
sky1I need to install the Java Runtime environment in Ubuntu, I installed JRE but it doesnt seem to work08:01
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SlimeyPete!java08:01
scguy318_2chamunks: ah :) well, what client are you08:01
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre08:02
chamunksscguy318, im using deluge torrent08:02
scguy318_2sky1: sun-java6-jre is what you need to install08:02
hemanscguy: nope I guess08:02
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DaBeowulfThanks scguy318_2 I'll try that.08:02
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backbluescguy318_2: Gutsy, it's older than 7.04 or newer?08:02
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JeSTeR7newer08:02
scguy318_2!gutsy | backblue08:02
hemanscguy: so do you recommend I stay with linux then? Also what about all my games they wont install anymore... :(08:02
ubotubackblue: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+108:02
Bassxman1im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb1608:02
Zergiuhello08:02
scguy318_2heman: yes, if you are willing to take the time to learn it, and Windows games can run under Wine08:02
scguy318_2!wine | heman08:02
ubotuheman: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:02
backbluescguy318_2: thanks.08:02
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PoundoLinuxJuggalo: problem is I don't know what the usb is called all I have is the listing in dmesg "uhci_hcd and address 3" fdisk dosn't tell me anything08:03
sky1scguy318, I already have it installed, but my mozilla browser cant detect it08:03
darkchr0n0sheman, games are only reason gamers won't shift to linux08:03
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Zergiuwhat music player is cool and good for ubuntu?08:03
scguy318_2sky1: you need sun-java6-plugin then08:03
darkchr0n0sZergiu : amarok08:03
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sky1scguy318, Ok lemme check08:03
Zergiuthanks , gona check it out08:03
hemanscguy: thanks, will wine run all windows programs games and everything?08:03
scguy318_2chamunks: look around in your BT app's options for proxy settings08:03
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darkchr0n0sheman , it can.. but not all08:04
chamunksscguy318, ill poke around08:04
scguy318_2heman: Wine isn't perfect, but it probably can run quite a few games, see the Wine AppDb for info: http://appdb.winehq.org08:04
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notebookhello all--i have to identical icons of a program i installed in the gnome panel (running feisty). how do i remove one without removing the other?08:04
Bassxman1im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb1608:04
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notebooktwo identical icons, i meant08:04
hemanscguy: have you heard of a game called sporE?08:04
petruhello guys! got one tiny problem; after i installed xgl drivers and enebled ubuntu desktop effects, i cant anymore turnoff or restart the computer from the usual icon. what to do for get back the missing shortcuts?08:04
scguy318_2heman: yes08:04
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hemanscguy: ok well im just not wanting to have to swap back to windows to install that...08:05
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scguy318_2heman: Spore hasn't been released yet08:05
Zergiuat amarok distribution there is no ubuntu , just kubuntu and debian (and other) , I get debian? or source one?08:05
DaBeowulf!gdm08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:05
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: try mount /media/"USB DISK" or try using the name of the drive (brand name)08:05
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hemanscguy: I know but im wondering whether I will have to wait for 6 months for it to be compatible?08:06
JunxHey! I need some help with partitions when im installing, anyone wanna help me ? PM is preferred :P08:06
scguy318_2Zergiu: Kubuntu is fine, remember that Ubuntu is the same as Kubuntu, just a different desktop environment08:06
scguy318_2heman: I really dunno, that may be a possibility :(08:06
Zergiuok08:06
Bassxman1im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me08:06
Absolute0any cool game providided with apt-get?08:06
scguy318_2Absolute0: yes, theres stuff like Tremulous, Freeciv, etc.08:07
scguy318_2Absolute0: and apt-get is just an APT frontend ;)08:07
scguy318_2Absolute0: the real meat is dpkg and the repos that it manages08:07
notebookanyone could help with removing a duplicate icon from gnome panel?  is there some edit command i can run?  thanks for help08:07
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hemanscguy: ok thanks well I have windows on here aswell so maybe I just install on windows if it doesn't work on linux08:07
JeSTeR7are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?08:07
darkchr0n0show do i schedule a shutdown ? "sudo shutdown -h 100" din't work last time i used08:07
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moopersince I upgraded my kernel the sound stopped working on my laptop!! suggestions?08:07
Absolute0scguy318_2: i just got used to apt-get08:08
scguy318_2heman: kk, theres nothing wrong with dual-booting if you have to08:08
Absolute0theres a million of frontends by now08:08
petruhello guys! got one tiny problem; after i installed xgl drivers and enebled ubuntu desktop effects, i cant anymore turnoff or restart the computer from the usual icon. what to do for get back the missing shortcuts?08:08
Absolute0but apt-get seems to be the most friendly08:08
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Zergiuwell in the end I'm gona install amarok with the synaptic package manager08:08
scguy318_2Absolute0: some people here recommend aptitude, but all the same for me :P08:08
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Absolute0why would one be better than the other?08:08
imscifiok so I wasn't paying very good attention, did anyone answer if there is a package for intel 950 gma drivers?08:09
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PKdoRhow can i remove a directory through the terminal?08:09
JeSTeR7are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?08:09
Bassxman1im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me08:09
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Absolute0scguy318_2: does tremulous require opengl?08:09
scguy318_2i imagine usability08:09
PoundoI have a usb drive plugged in but fdisk -l only shows sda1 sda2 sda5 nothing about the usb as far as I can tell so I don't know howto mount it.08:09
LinuxJuggaloPKdoR: rm -rf /directory/name08:10
scguy318_2Absolute0: of course, its a 3D game, there are tons of other games tbh08:10
Absolute0scguy318_2: i got an ati card and its not supported on linux :(08:10
scguy318_2Absolute0: that do not require 3D08:10
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scguy318_2Absolute0: well, i hear the latest ATI driver due sometime this month may rectify that08:10
darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : you can get ATi prop drivers08:10
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Absolute0darkchr0n0s: and they work good?08:11
darkchr0n0sscguy318_2 the link is out.. you can download from ati.amd.com08:11
PKdoRLinuxJuggalo: and the terminal should be default on my home folder no?08:11
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darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 i have ATi mobility radeon.. working pretty decent for me08:11
Absolute0darkchr0n0s: should i download from the link instead of ubuntu repos?08:11
LinuxJuggaloPKdoR yes08:11
scguy318_2darkchr0n0s: i meant the one that should have AIGLX support08:11
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darkchr0n0swhat i AIGLX again ?08:11
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darkchr0n0swhat si*08:12
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darkchr0n0sis*08:12
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Absolute0darkchr0n0s: what driver are you using for you ati card?08:12
dardanhi08:12
sky1scguy318, its working thanks :)08:12
Absolute0xorg-driver-fglrx ?08:12
dardananyone how can i convert mov file to mp308:12
dardan?08:12
scguy318_2sky1: np08:13
scguy318_2dardan: prob a bit of ffmpeg play or VLC transcode08:13
darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : no... i got it from ati.amd.com, i think they call it fglrx or somthing08:13
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scguy318_2darkchr0n0s: AIGLX = Accelerated Indiret something08:13
Absolute0darkchr0n0s: do they have a deb pkg?08:13
dardanscguy318 thx probing :)08:13
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fredikkhello i am trying to find the repos for ubuntu 5 breezy, that seem not to exist in the mirror: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu anyone could help?08:13
PKdoRLinuxJuggalo:  so if i want to delete a directory named f1 in my home folder i would type "rm -rf /f1" correct?08:13
scguy318_2darkchr0n0s: its what Beryl/Compiz uses for their magic08:13
silokodardan: isn't one an AV format and the other just an Audio format?08:13
darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : they have bin files08:13
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scguy318_2PKdoR: no slash, but yeah08:14
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darkchr0n0sscguy318_2 : i have compiz working on my laptop with ATi08:14
Absolute0darkchr0n0s: what about xorg-driver-fglrx in the repositories?08:14
dardansiloko: file.mov it is audio08:14
fredikki mean there are several other versions there but no beeze08:14
LinuxJuggaloPKdoR: not exactly, just type rm -rf f108:14
scguy318_2darkchr0n0s: yeah, cuz XGL08:14
fredikkr08:14
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darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : i haven't used that.. i started off with prop drivers08:14
Absolute0isnt fglrx the proprietary one?08:14
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scguy318_2Absolute0: they are08:15
darkchr0n0si think it is08:15
Absolute0xorg-video-ati is the open sourc one08:15
Absolute0so does it matter if i get flgrx or the ones on the ati site?08:15
darkchr0n0sfglrx = the one on the ati site08:15
Absolute0fglrx the one in apt-cache search fglrx :)08:16
scguy318_2Absolute0: the driver packages in the repos are obviously not the latest08:16
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scguy318_2Absolute0: but a better bet of working a-ok08:16
Absolute0scguy318_2: i dont need latest i need working08:16
profanephobiahow can i unmount a binded dir?08:16
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Absolute0with full 3d acceleration08:16
Absolute0ok i guess theres only one way to find out08:16
ZeroA4Absolute0, anyone should work08:16
Absolute0oh08:16
Absolute0:)08:16
darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : just goto ati.amd.com and get the drivers..08:16
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darkchr0n0swhat is the hold ?08:17
PKdoRLinuxJuggalo: I tryed it but it sayas canot delete F1 permission denied08:17
Absolute0dark which card do you have?08:17
scguy318_2PKdoR: who owns the directory? if its owned by root you'll have to prefix sudo08:17
kazim59What is the command to install all packages in all repositories? (sudo apt-get install everything!)08:17
silokoprofanephobia: What do you mean by bound directory?08:17
darkchr0n0sAbsolute0 : ATi Mobility Radeon x230008:17
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darkchr0n0skazim59 : i don't think you want to install everything !08:18
LinuxJuggaloPKdoR: try sudo rm -rf /home/username/directoryname08:18
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Absolute0i got x200 m which is not on the ati site08:18
kazim59darkchr0n0s: somebody wants to do so.. he has asked me the question...08:18
ZeroA4Absolute0, i have a note with a Radeon x700... i just used Restrited Drivers Manager and it installed it for me08:18
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PKdoRLinuxJuggalo: TY sir that worked I had to sudo08:18
profanephobiasiloko, i did a "mount -o bind dir_from/blah dir_to/blah" and now i need to undo it08:18
josh43Can anyone help me with a multi-threaded ftp upload script?08:18
kazim59darkchr0n0s: I know this is awkward... but is this possible with one command08:18
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LinuxJuggaloPKdoR no problem :)08:18
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darkchr0n0skazim59 : never tried.. i don't have much hard drive on my laptop08:19
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Absolute0gotchya08:19
Picijosh43: You'll probably get a better response in #bash08:19
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josh43Pici: Thanks; was just looking through the channel names for something like that :)08:19
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PKdoRis there any p2p apps for linux?08:20
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Pici!p2p | PKdoR08:20
ubotuPKdoR: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.08:20
scguy318_2!p2p | PKdoR08:20
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LinuxJuggaloPKdoR yes there is, there are a few you can install using apt-get install like nicotine, amarok and bittorrent08:21
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Grundokohow can i add system fonts08:21
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scguy318_2!fonts08:21
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer08:21
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profanephobiasiloko, any ideas?08:22
Grundokothanks ill check it out08:22
PKdoRis vuze (azureus 3.x) running on linux?08:22
ljsmithxHello guys, Im not shore wether to stay with os x or go with ubuntu.08:22
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ljsmithxWhat should i do?08:22
amadeuxUsing hdparm -Tt, I can see (and feel) that my hard disks are suddenly much slower than they used to be. I fiddled around with hdparm the other day, but I just tried rebooting to see if it helped. It didn't. How can I "reset" the hdparm settings back to normal? Would booting in Windows and then back into linux help?08:22
scguy318_2PKdoR: not sure, think not08:22
silokoprofanephobia: sudo umount <target dir>08:22
scguy318_2PKdoR: you could try directly obtaining packages/sources/w/e from their site08:23
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ZeroA4ljsmithx, you should evaluate it for youself08:23
profanephobiasiloko, k thanks08:23
PKdoRcan I run a p2p through wine?08:23
PoundoLinuxJuggalo: I have tried mount /dev/sda1 /"usb 1-1"  mount /dev/sda1 /usb 1-1 even mount /dev/sda1 /uhci_hcd those are all the values i got from dmesg showing the drive was connected but no luck08:23
ljsmithxI know, but. For some reason I have an odd urge to go with linux,08:23
WebbmasterPKdoR: depends which one, but yeah08:23
WebbmasterPKdoR: why tho?08:23
Absolute0whats the difference between apptitude and apt-get?08:23
ljsmithx...A weired fealing inside08:23
ljsmithxweird*08:24
Grundokoi think i did it08:24
scguy318_2ljsmithx: try the LiveCD, decide which one you want to go with, and ask any questions here08:24
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SpiderPighow do i get java applet installed? i installed java08:24
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scguy318_2Absolute0: aptitude has a CLI interface08:24
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ljsmithxSorry if im annoying.08:24
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PKdoRcause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux08:24
scguy318_2SpiderPig: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin08:24
Absolute0scguy318_2: isnt apt-get cli as well?08:24
SpiderPigscguy dont i also need to install the fonts and such?08:24
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: it could be the partition format on the drive is not supported08:24
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Poundoon the usb you mean08:25
scguy318_2Absolute0: yeah, but aptitude has more of an interface, so to speak, so if you typed aptitude, you would get a window that looks similar to dpkg-reconfigure08:25
ljsmithxWhat are the advantages of using Feisty over OS X08:25
ljsmithx??08:25
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scguy318_2SpiderPig: perhaps08:25
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: yes08:25
scguy318_2ljsmithx: its free, not proprietary, um08:25
PKdoRWebbmaster: cause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux08:25
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NallemanWhat packages should I install to get a java virtual machine? medibuntu is added. thanks.08:25
ljsmithx...08:26
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WebbmasterPKdoR: try it in wine, it might or might not work08:26
Webbmastercheck the appDB one winehq.org08:26
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ljsmithxOk... My cd drive is too slow to take on the live cd08:26
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ljsmithxG3 iMac 200108:26
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: try installing the NTFS configuration tool and enable the read/write option for external drives, then retry to connect the drive08:26
PoundoLinuxJuggalo: can I set the format when I create the mount like ntfs or something to force the filesystem to be correct this was a windows drive08:26
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ljsmithxAnd the text install has never worked for me.08:27
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LinuxJuggaloPoundo: yes you can08:27
fredikkanyone knows where i could find ubuntu breezy's archive?08:27
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PoundoLinuxJuggalo: sorry a little quick on the draw. Is that something I can get with apt-get08:27
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fredikkall mirrors have dapper, feistyand gutsy but not breezy08:27
ompaulfredikk, discontinued unsupported08:28
silokoNalleman: type java -version at the commandline - I think GNU Java is installed by default08:28
Picifredikk: one moment.08:28
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: yes08:28
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silokoNalleman: if you want a different version (SUN or IBM) then go to the appropriate site and follow the instaructions08:28
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notebookwould anyone advise about removing duplicate icons from the gnome panel?08:28
fredikkompaul:at last! someone helps me on this. i'm serching for hours now!08:28
Pici!java | Nalleman08:28
ubotuNalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre08:28
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LinuxJuggaloPoundo: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config08:28
Piciompaul: There is a repo still open though.08:28
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Picifredikk: I did mention at least once that it was at end of life.08:29
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ljsmithxWhats away of making OS X feel more like Linux?08:29
ljsmithxOr is that stupid?08:29
fredikkPIci:you mentioned it?what do you mean when?08:29
Nallemansiloko, I tried to install jalbum but it wouldnt work because of some java issue. Really, I dont know what it means or what java actually is... :)08:29
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fredikk<Pici>so do you know the url of the still working one:08:30
fredikk?08:30
Picifredikk: er, looks like the url doesnt work. oops.08:30
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fredikkwhich was it?08:30
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Nallemanperhaps its the sun-java5-jre I need... *trying*08:31
chamunksscguy318, so would it be tracker proxy?08:31
silokoNalleman: well that's what it says on the jalbum website ;)08:31
peter_can anyone tell me how to install this driver... gspcav1-20070508.ebuild...or any webcam driver for that matter?08:31
PoundoLinuxJuggalo: one more question I do ultimately  want to use this USB on the linux box so this wont disable that feature right08:31
Picifredikk: It doesnt matter.  Breezy isnt supported anymore anyway.08:31
Poundoand I found something called ntfsprogs?08:31
bam_Hi I was wondering if anyone could answer a quick question. In java, if I throw a an exception in the middle of a function, will the rest of the function the executed?08:31
Nallemansiloko, oh... well. then it ouht to work :] 08:32
ompaulfredikk, grab yourself feisty or some such08:32
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: no it wont08:32
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ISeeYouhello08:32
fredikkPici:ok man thanks08:32
silokoNalleman: unless you have specifically installed SUN java then you will only have GNU Java which is often buggy with software developed for SUN08:32
siloko !java | Nalleman08:33
ubotuNalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre08:33
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LinuxJuggalo!ntfs | Poundo08:33
ubotuPoundo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:33
notebookhello all--i have two identical icons in my system tray of the gnome panel.  i think i installed a program twice.  how do i remove with duplicate with out removing the whole panel?  sorry for such a simple question and thanks for any help.08:33
notebookwithout removing the whole program, i mean08:33
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silokonotebook: right click on the second icon and choose remove08:34
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notebooksiloko--thanks, but when i do that i remove both icons.08:34
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PoundoLinuxJuggalo: is it ntfstools or ntfsprogs?08:34
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silokonotebook: so when you remove them both how do you get them back again?08:34
notebooki believe i just added the program to the system tray, but i forget how to get back to that.08:35
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: just sudo apt-get install ntsf-config08:35
notebooksorry, i'm really asking basic things.  cheers for your help siloko08:35
FlatsOk Flats the rookie is back, And todays clueless question has to do with sound. Alsa or OSS? It seems my system supports both. Does it matter which I use?08:35
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silokonotebook: are you talking about icons in the notification area or the panel in general?08:36
LinuxJuggaloPoundo: after it is install it should appear in applications>system tools>NTFS Configuration Tool08:36
silokonotebook: because some software is a bit buggy with putting icons inthe notification area (Network Manager being a prime example)08:36
LinuxJuggalo!external drives | Poundo08:37
notebooki guess that's what it is, the notification area.  it's upper right hand corner.08:37
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notebookshows the programs currently running.08:37
LinuxJuggalo!externaldrives | Poundo08:37
silokonotebook: whats the application?08:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about external drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about externaldrives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
notebookit's a pretty obscure program for running multiple language keyboards08:37
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LinuxJuggalo!usb drives | Poundo08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
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ZmaXHi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)08:38
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LinuxJuggaloubotu you suck lol08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you suck lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:38
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silokonotebook: it's probably a bug . . although I don't know for sure - I had a problem with this in Network Manager - found a work around on ubuntuforums - can't remeber what it was - sorry08:38
notebookworks with SCIM but i set it up the first week i had ubuntu and am really not sure how i did it.  but it works great.  thanks again for helping, siloko08:38
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FreshPrincemoin08:39
notebookis there anything you can pull up to see which programs are set up in the notifications area?08:39
FreshPrincewhasts the default Filesystem for boot? ext2?08:39
geniiYup or ext308:39
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FreshPrince[genii]  ok thx.. i think i'm gonna use ext2 .) thx08:40
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PoundoLinuxJuggalo: apt-get can't find it i tried apt-cache search and it's not pulled up08:40
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FlatsAlsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?08:40
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Flatsor will my system only configure for 1 or the other08:41
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FlatsAll the sound tests sound like a constant horn going off. Isthat normal?08:42
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whiskeytang1So..08:43
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riotkittieso...08:43
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whiskeytang1Looks like they solved everyones problems.08:43
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silokoproblems? what problems . . .08:43
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riotkittieor everyone with problems has gone to fall into the fetal position and weep08:44
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SpiderPigFlats i still have some spare love left over for you08:44
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whiskeytang1hey i left the room08:44
Flatswoo hoo08:44
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whiskeytang1man im loving the opera client...08:44
SpiderPigwhiskeytang yeah it aint got tha memory leak problem08:45
chris__whats the desktop effects chat?08:45
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anthonychris__: #ubuntu-effects08:45
way2coolhey08:45
chris__thanks08:45
whiskeytang1"#screenwentblankandcomputercaughtfire"08:45
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whiskeytang1Whats best software for dvd burning with ubuntu?  like i want to burn my recently downloaded movie to a dvd..08:47
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anthony!burners | whiskeytang108:47
ubotuwhiskeytang1: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto08:47
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whiskeytang1thank you anthony08:48
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Desert_StormHello08:50
Desert_StormCould anyone help me?08:50
dgjones!anyone | Desert_Storm08:50
ubotuDesert_Storm: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:50
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recondid I just miss a netsplit or something?08:52
genpfaultIs there a program that can 'wrap' another and simulate adverse network conditions for testing purposes?08:53
Hestv4SATA is sweet.... new disk plugged in and formatted without power cycling!08:53
CreetureHey all. I have a 6.10 server install. Want to upgrade it to 7.10 server. I have 7.04 alternate desktop and 7.10 alternate desktop CDs. Will the updater behave properly using those?08:53
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aymanhi08:53
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riotkittieCreeture: do you really want to upgrade your server to a beta?08:53
IndyGunFreakCreeture: depends...08:53
Creetureriotkittie: Yeah, this one I do.08:53
reconLjL: if you're there, i reported the xchat TCL thing as a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/148222 , you can confirm it if you like.08:53
aymanany body here08:53
X3Nhi there i just failed the installation for the ati driver but i looked into the x.org log file and found an error in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/  so how do i update or downgrade to the correct x.org?08:54
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IndyGunFreakCreeture: i'd make sure you back everying up,08:54
reconayman: hi there.08:54
aymaniam wann get some help08:54
CreetureI don't wanna know if I should do it, I want to know if it's going to try to install the desktop stuff. That's all.08:54
ayman:$08:54
dgjonesCreeture, you'd at least be better waiting until Gutsy is fully released and not just test software08:54
reconayman: do you speak a language other than english more fluently than english?08:54
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ayman:( maby iam  alone here08:54
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reconayman: /join #ubuntu08:54
IndyGunFreaki've never gotten ati drivers to work, ever.. thats why i stick w/ nvidial.08:54
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X3Nit keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?08:54
Desert_StormWow08:54
IndyGunFreakrecon: lol, thats where he is.08:54
Desert_StormMy first day of Ubuntu08:55
dgjonesayman, you need to say what you're problem is before you'll know whether anyone is around to help08:55
Desert_StormAnd, im doing great, for a newcomer =P08:55
Bkgood day08:55
way2coolhey peeps08:55
reconIndyGunFreak: wait, what? crap. i thought i was in offtopic.08:55
Bkhi everybody08:55
ZmaXHi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)08:55
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IndyGunFreakrecon: lol08:55
pumahi08:55
disasmi have an ldap auth /w kerberos and nfs mounted home directories on workstations. Everything works fine... Unless it loses connectivity with LDAP server on boot, then it takes forever to boot, it eventually boots, but trying to login as root hangs because it's trying to find the root account on the ldap server, any ideas? I was thinking about on a test machine switching nsswitch.conf to files before ldap, but I think we have ldap first s08:55
neopsychewhat is the best antivirus package for ubuntu?08:55
smacfarlAre there any 7.10 docs yet. Would like to read more about what I have just installed.08:55
jurp5hi08:55
reconIndyGunFreak: i forgot i reinstalled, meaning my default IRC channel isn't offtopic. crap.08:55
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way2coolif i want to upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy, what should i do.. use "Manager updateR" or download the iso???08:55
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riotkittieneopsyche: you dont really need an AV08:55
IndyGunFreakrecon: there's worse things.08:55
ompaul!offtopic | recon08:55
uboturecon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:55
CreetureSo, since I don't care about stability or the bigger picture, will it work?08:55
Instabin|Worksmarcfarl: apt-get remove08:55
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neopsycheIts a nice to have... makes people feel safe :-)08:56
smacfarlgksudo "update-manager -c -d"08:56
Instabin|Workor uncheck the packages in synaptic08:56
riotkittieif you want to update to the gutsy beta, please, please, pleaaaaaaase, know what youre doing and be prepared for breakage08:56
neopsycheare there NO viruses for ubuntu?08:56
reconompaul: i know that. you don't really have to rub it in my face, you know. :-(08:56
IndyGunFreakhey, does anyone know how i would change the mount point for my Ipod?.. when it mounds, it says, "Kens IPOD" on the desktop, I'd rather it just said, 'IPOD"08:56
X3Nit keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?08:56
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Desert_Stormneop08:56
riotkittieand back your stuff up :|08:56
way2coolso its not recommended to get gutsy????08:56
smacfarlisn't 7.10 leaving beta 10/19?08:56
Desert_StormEvery system has viruses08:56
dgjones!virus | neopsyche08:56
ubotuneopsyche: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2108:56
way2cooldo i stick with my awesome feisty?08:56
CreetureJebus man...I don't care if it breaks. I just finished installing 6.10 server on it. That CD isn't even cool yet.08:56
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smacfarlHow much is really going to change in 2 weeks?08:56
reconneopsyche: there probably are, buy you aren't really in danger as long as you follow standard security procedures.08:56
pumawhen comes final 7.10?08:57
Picismacfarl: #ubuntu+1, you know this.08:57
IndyGunFreaksmacfarl: well, if you were seeing the updates every morning, i'd say enought o matter.08:57
way2cooltalk to me08:57
IndyGunFreakpuma: 18th i think08:57
IndyGunFreak*think*08:57
Desert_StormRealy, it would be a big search, if you would want to find a virus, for linux/ubuntu :D08:57
smacfarlPici i was just there and no one answered any questions08:57
X3Nmy ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?08:57
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edugonchHello, is there a log file that I can see for remote desktop connection?08:57
reconneopsyche: by that, i mean "don't give out your password", "keep a good password", etc.08:57
disasmCreeture: yes and no, they're the same package tree as the server, so that won't do any damage, but if it is trying to upgrade say apache, Apache isn't on the install disks iirc.08:57
Picismacfarl: be patient.08:57
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Instabin|WorkSmacfarl: i have been running gutsy since tribe 3 and I get about 40 updates a day08:57
way2coolIndyGunFreak whats the proper way to upgrade distro version from 4.07 to 4.10 ?? Is it from manager updater in X server, or downloading its ISO file???08:57
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IndyGunFreak4.07?..08:58
way2coolfeisty i mean08:58
IndyGunFreakOR 7.04, to 7.1008:58
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way2coolyea08:58
IndyGunFreakyou can run dist-upgrade i do believe.08:58
way2cool7.04 to 7.1008:58
bottigeris there something like CTRL+z which doesn't suspend the app but just put it in the background08:58
someonemy ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?08:58
way2coolIndyGunFreak really???08:58
Creeturedisasm: Thanks. I'll have full apt-internet connectivity, so that shouldn't be a problem. I was just curious whether the desktop install will force, e.g. ubuntu-desktop onto my ubuntu-minimal system.08:58
someoneit says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it08:58
Instabin|Workupdate-manager -d08:58
IndyGunFreakway2cool: pretty sure, bt i'm not sure on the exact process... as i always do clean installs08:58
way2coolIndyGunFreak but i saw manager updater program running in my X it has somewhere to click and it says "Upgrade to 7.10 gutsy" Is that fine to click it???08:58
Instabin|Worksudo update-manager -d08:58
Rogeanyone know the apt-get command to completly remove a package including config files and any other files it created etc08:59
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way2coolInstabin|Work, whats that command for?08:59
pumatrouble with p2p stream08:59
IndyGunFreakway2cool: i guess..  i don't see why not.08:59
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CreetureRoge: aptitude purge package08:59
Instabin|Workupdate to 7.1008:59
Rogethx08:59
disasmCreeture: not if you do a dist-upgrade08:59
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CreetureRoge: But that only removes what is controlled by the package. Any files created outside of that will be left.08:59
Instabin|Workway2cool update to 7.10 from 7.0408:59
way2coolIndyGunFreak clean installs? define that... do u mean downloading the ISo and installing new linux from scratch??? thats not clean for me, hence you gonna re-configure VGA and whole drivers, then get all the Packages, etc. isnt clean for e08:59
way2coolme08:59
disasmCreeture: it will ask anyways before it does it, do a sanity check before saying yes09:00
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way2coolInstabin|Work, did u do it before?09:00
neopsychelinux immune system better than windows09:00
Rogeok thx09:00
PiciRoge: apt-get remove --purge package09:00
Instabin|WorkYes09:00
Creeturedisasm: What about using do-release-upgrade? Any idea? FYI, I'll report my findings on this in about 10 minutes.09:00
Instabin|Workway2cool: ^09:00
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way2coolInstabin|Work, what if i did that same exact command in the 18th this month, will it get the Beta or the final??09:00
hendrixskihello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?09:00
someonemy ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?09:00
mjb09anyone ever use lvm with ubuntu?09:00
someoneit says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it09:01
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riotkittieif the final's been released, it will get the final09:01
Instabin|Workway2cool: depends on whats in the repo09:01
disasmCreeture: what's do-release-upgrade?09:01
way2coolInstabin|Work, so does that means each time i need to update something i need to edit the repo file and write something manualy in it? or is there a command to update my repo so it downloads final & latest versions of packages and everything???09:01
Creeturedisasm: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-e471fe0c514bab31d4fac24a8a8fde382e8c7aaf09:01
silviuhey guys, i'm trying to give full read-write access to the filesystem to the current user, what's the command?09:02
pumamy K-menu does't work after install 7.10 beta(AMD64 )09:02
edugonchA log file for the remote desktop, please....09:02
Creeturesilviu: Whole filesystem? From / up you mean?09:02
riotkittiesomeone: is there an xorg upgrade available in the repos?09:02
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Picipuma: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.09:02
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silviuyes, to be able to write/delete files on the drive09:02
Instabin|Workway2cool: no  you have no need to edit the repo file to up date to gutsy09:02
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Creeturesilviu: Don't do that. Don't even consider it. Just add the users to sudoers using visudo09:03
riotkittiewhy would you want to write/delete outside of ~09:03
someonewell i just reloaded synaptic, and nothing about an update09:03
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way2coolInstabin|Work you didnt understand my question09:03
Instabin|Workway2cool: update-manager -d will take care of everything09:03
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mjb09I have an lvm2 volume group on an external hdd that I need to mount one of the lv's under ubuntu [feisty] 09:03
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someoneive looked for xorg too, appears im using the only xorg entry in synaptic anyway09:03
mjb09havin' problems09:03
Creeturesilviu: And that's not one of those "we don't recommend this" things. You'll break the system completely if you go messing with permissions.09:03
samad93saut09:03
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Instabin|Workway2cool: gutsy wiil not have diff repos for beta and final they are the same repos the packages are just updated09:03
RictooWill the ICH9R southbridge work with PATA support on Ubuntu?09:03
Rictoohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681318612409:03
Creeturesilviu: If you want something read/write by a user, create another filesystem, say /export/users/username and chown user:group that directory.09:04
hendrixskihello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?09:04
riotkittiesomeone: i have no clue, sorry09:04
bensodeHave CUPS working on 7.04 server and accepting print jobs from remote clients but how do I print locally from the server command line?09:04
someonei installed the ati driver with envy btw09:04
someonebloody thing this is driving me stupid09:04
jhockinAnyone know why when installing a fresh copy of the Fiesty DVD, xserver wont even start at the very beginning of the install?09:04
silviuno, i'm the only user to the system/pc, and i want to be able to play games (like ET)09:04
neopsychehow do i uninstall on ubuntu?09:04
someoneevery bloody timei manage to get 3d acc working it bloody reverts back to mesa!!! godamit!09:04
neopsychefrom command line09:04
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neopsychefor example09:04
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Creeturesiliviu: You can play games as a normal user.09:04
neopsychei want to uninstall gftp09:04
Creeturesilviu: You just do the install as root using sudo.09:05
Picineopsyche: sudo apt-get remove gftp09:05
mjb09jhockin:  I've sometimes had to install with the alternate install cd, and then troubleshoot the video driver afterward09:05
Instabin|Workneopsyche: apt-get remove packagename09:05
bensodeneopsyche : use sudo apt-get remote (package name to uninstall)09:05
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suloHi, how do you change keymap in console in ubuntu 7.10?09:05
bensodeneopsyche that's apt-get remove now remote09:05
jhockindoes anyone have a handy link to the alternate?  I can only seem to find the normal dvd?09:05
silviuyes Creeture, i realised that's the way, but i hoped for a easy solution ;)09:05
bensodeCan't type well today ... think my fingers are broken ...09:05
Creeturesilviu: That *IS* the easy solution.09:05
dgjones!gutsy | sulo09:05
ubotusulo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+109:05
mjb09jhockin:  worse come to worse, you can ue the vesa driver until you get it sorted out09:05
Instabin|Workway2cool: you still here09:05
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hendrixskihello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?09:06
silviuthanks for your answers09:06
riotkittiesulo:  temporary fix is ... sude loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/<tab tab tab to complete and select>09:06
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hendrixskiI can't seem to do it with Kino09:06
mjb09jhockin: http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso09:06
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hendrixskiis there something else that will edit videos and their audio tracks, or will Kino do it as well just in some hidden option?09:07
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TLFhi all09:07
RUUN|Stalkerhi09:07
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jhockinthanks so much mjb0909:07
TLFdoes ubuntu have a net install CD?09:07
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FlatsAlsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?09:07
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dgjones!install | TLF09:07
ubotuTLF: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:07
Flatsor will my system only configure for 1 or the other09:07
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CreetureTLF: The one you're looking for in particular is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet09:09
Textbookanybody in here have a Toshiba Satellite they're running Ubuntu on?  got a problem with sound (headphones don't work)09:09
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Beefheartjoin #ubuntu09:09
Textbookheh09:09
TLFthanks dgjones and Creeture :)09:09
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BeefheartAnyone able to tell me how i find out where wine installed my Anarchy online please?09:10
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Desert_StormBeef09:10
Beefheartor how to access it09:10
Desert_StormAh09:10
mjb09Beef:  Not in ~/.wine  ??09:10
Desert_StormYeah09:10
Beefheartim a neeb: )09:10
Desert_StormShould be something in wine directory09:10
Desert_StormBeef09:10
Beefheartnoob*09:10
jhockinmjb09: one more question, if i have the 7.04 dvd can i just use the text install option on that indstead of the alternate cd?09:10
Desert_StormWe were all noobs, at some point ;)09:10
Beefheartwhat is the wine dir ?09:10
anthonyjhockin: yes09:11
Desert_StormWhere you installed it, lol09:11
mjb09jhockin:  I never did, but you can try09:11
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Beefhearti just got my ubuntu running smooth on my laptop. i feel really good hehe09:11
Desert_StormWell09:11
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Desert_StormThis is my first day with Ubuntu aswell09:11
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Desert_StormBut i've had suse, and Xubuntu before09:11
idefixwhy is the sources.list file read-only?09:11
BeefheartI need to know where to look for my ao installation09:11
mjb09jhockin:  alot of times my machines at work only have CDRom drive anyway, so I burn the CD09:11
SlimeyPeteidefix: you need to be root to edit it. Use sudo/gksu/kdesu09:11
Beefheartbecause i ant to wine the exe file09:11
SlimeyPete!sudo09:11
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:11
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jhockingreat, thanks again09:12
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mjb09<--- need to get old ssh host keys off an LVM and can't mouont the damn VG .  Anyone handy with LVM ?09:12
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BeefheartI dont know where i installed wine. (default i guess) i know my AO was installed to C:\programfiles\Ao but how do i access the place called C: in linux?09:13
mjb09Beef: cd ~/.wine/drive_c09:13
Creeturembj09: I have a hammer. It always makes me feel better to beat the living hell out of something before delving into LVM.09:13
Beefheartill try. 2 sec09:13
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idefixthx SP09:13
mjb09Creeture:  Me too.  This HD is from an old FC4 box I was running xen on09:13
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Desert_StormYay09:13
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Desert_StormI got Beryl working09:13
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remi____hi all09:14
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mjb09Instead of LVM, they should have called it PITA09:14
remi____pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?09:14
Desert_StormHey09:15
Desert_StormDoes anyone know, if i installed Beryl, where did it install to?09:15
Desert_StormI want to add a theme, to it09:15
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CreetureDesert_Storm: All over the dang place.09:15
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Desert_StormOkay... =D09:15
Beefheart~/.wine/drive_c no such file or directory09:15
Desert_StormGOnna be one hell of a search then XD09:15
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remi____Desert_Storm, do you have virtual desktops working correctly with beryl ?09:15
bottigeris there something like CTRL+z which doesn't suspend the app but just put it in the background09:16
mjb09Beef:  What is in your ~/.wine folder?09:16
Desert_StormWell09:16
Desert_StormI can switch workspaces09:16
Desert_StormO.o09:16
Desert_StormIF thats what you mean09:16
BeefheartHave no clue09:16
BeefheartI cant ind it...09:16
Beefheartthats what im trying to say here09:16
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mjb09Beef.  Open a terminal. and type the command09:16
mjb09cd .wine09:16
mjb09then type09:16
mjb09ls09:16
BeefheartI cant find my install of AO, which i know is installed somwhere. and i dont know where to look09:16
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Beefheartno file or directory09:17
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mjb09then run updatedb, and then locate ".wine"09:17
Desert_StormHey09:17
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Desert_Stormsudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -09:17
Desert_Stormsudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -09:17
mjb09or09:18
Desert_Stormsudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -09:18
CreetureBeefheart: Should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/AO09:18
mjb09find / -name ".wine" -type d09:18
Desert_Stormups09:18
Desert_Stormsorry09:18
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Desert_StormI putted that to my terminal09:18
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Desert_StormNow, i dont know, where it installed09:18
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Beefheartfind / -name ".wine" -type d09:19
Beefheartmt09:19
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Desert_StormAny tips, on finding, where i installed Beryl?09:19
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Beefheartok now i found it09:19
Beefheartwhat next?09:20
mjb09then cd into that dir, and do another find09:20
mjb09like09:20
mjb09find . -iname "*part of filename*"09:20
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BeefheartThanks allot mate. you've been more than helpfull. thanks09:20
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mjb09Beef: no prob09:21
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mjb09good luck09:21
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suloHi, how do I change keymap in gdm?09:21
karoshistop saying beef! >_<09:21
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Beefheartbeefcake09:21
mjb09eccy eccy ptang zootbang... Ni!09:21
FlatsAlsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?09:21
mjb09how is that09:21
karoshisulo, system>pre>keyboard09:21
Flatsor will my system only configure for 1 or the other09:21
dgmThis should be a dumb question, but I can't find anything with google.   Where do I find a list of errata and updates to 7.04 ?09:21
sulokaroshi thanks09:22
ramonhi, what package do I install to get info documentation for system programs like mkfifo?09:22
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sky1what is newstr doing in this code ?  vector<std::string> k; string newstr=""; newstr.push_back((char)c); k.push_back(newstr);09:22
Beefheartare there a way to make a normal shortcut on my desktop to run an wine app ?09:22
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sulokaroshi does that affect gdm as well?09:22
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karoshii think so sulo09:23
karoshiid imagine it affects everything09:23
sulokaroshi: no, it doesn't affect gdm :(09:23
sulokaroshi: I have dvorak in gdm :s09:23
ramonBeefheart: i think putting 'wine /path/to/exe' in the Command field should work09:23
karoshibut your doing it *in* gdm, how can it not/?09:23
sulokaroshi well.. I'm doing it in gnome09:24
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Beefheartthanka ramon09:24
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sulokaroshi gdm and the windowmanager are separate09:24
mjb09what, is nobody masochistic enough to know lvm?  I used to know it under Fedora, but I'm having odd problems under *buntu.09:24
mjb09ramon is right09:24
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sulokaroshi in many ways09:24
karoshithen i dunno how09:24
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WoetHello, my chess 3D is bugged. It works (After a lot of messing around), but i have lines threw my screen09:24
sulokaroshi: ok. thanks anyways09:24
karoshino prob09:25
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lloydany solutions to play text bassed rpg games in ubuntu09:25
Woeterr09:25
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Woeter09:25
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sulolloyd install and play?09:25
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Woetfirefox lloyd?09:25
ddonkyhow do i install Real codecs so totem can play .rm files?09:25
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lloydi ment something to join all sorts of text bassed rpg's09:25
sulolloyd like a mud-client?09:26
lloydyes thats it09:26
lloydsorry that im so unclear its late :p09:26
disasmlloyd: telnet?09:26
sulolloyd try mush, I've heard it's popular09:26
disasmthat's what I always used at least ;-)09:26
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sulolloyd If you google something like "mud clients linux" I think there's someone maintaining a list09:27
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lloydty :p09:27
sulonp09:27
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sulolloyd no, no irony, I mean there's some site with some guy/gal maintaining a list of rated clients09:27
BeefheartAnyone know how I get a list over programs to kill ?09:28
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jportps -ae09:28
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disasmBeefheart: ps aux09:28
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lloydsulo i know :p this :p isn't irony09:29
ramonBeefheart: System->Administration->System Monitor for a GUI09:29
Beefheartty09:29
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Desert_StormWhoa09:29
lloydKildClient :p09:29
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Desert_StormBeryl looks cool :D09:29
gregzxberyl is for kids! :x09:29
lloydye :s09:30
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disasmgregzx: my comment exactly ;-)09:30
disasmgregzx: fluxbox is where it's at for productivity or some other light weight wm09:30
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gregzxyep ;] 09:31
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Textbookdoes anybody have a Toshiba Satellite laptop? I'm having audio problems, headphones don't work09:32
gcjhi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any idea?09:32
ramondoes no one know how to install the info pages for the gnu tools?09:33
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gregzxTextbook: i got a satellite pro u200 and my headphones work fine!09:33
cosmodadTextbook: did you enable the jack in thr mixer?09:33
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SeeBeeRight.09:33
Textbookhow do you do that?09:33
SeeBeeI need some help. =P09:33
zxcv_is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?09:33
niltonhow can i add custom rules to be applied after an interface gets up?09:33
SeeBeeJust got Ubuntu 7.04, burned the ISO on a CD, installed it, perfect. Everything's done fine.09:33
SeeBeeAnd now when I start up my system, uhhh... how do I boot into Linux? It just gives me two options, boot into Windows XP or into a non-existant Windows Vista.09:33
cosmodadTextbook: check the speaker symbol in the corner of your desktop09:34
niltonrouting rules, i mean09:34
SeeBeeNon-existant in the sense that it was installed, and then I just formatted the drive it was installed on. So the boot manager when it opens up, shows the Vista like menu in which there's XP.09:34
mjb09<--- found the problem with my lvm.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/10669609:34
gcjnilton, edit /etc/network/interfaces09:34
mjb09Bascially a module did not autoload09:34
niltongcj: is there a syntax, it's a shell script?09:34
LinuxJuggaloTextbook: i do a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4797, i had the same audio problem, look here for help about audio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto09:34
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SlimeyPeteSeeBee: sounds like grb needs configuring. If you boot the alternate CD you can tell it to boot from the linux partition on the disk, so that you can fix gru09:34
SlimeyPete!grub09:34
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:34
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Textbookthanks guys09:34
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gcjnilton, man interfaces09:35
SeeBeeI tried doing that, I edited the GRUB parameters and made it hd(1,1)09:35
SeeBeeSecond partition on the second disk.09:35
brianskiwhat's a good pcmcia wifi card that will work solidly in ubuntu?09:35
neopsychehow do i get root?09:35
Textbooksee, I already installed the latest alsa drivers , libs, and utils, but I don't see any option in the mixer to enable the jack09:35
Cyber_Stalkerhow would i run "index.jad.jnlp" on ubuntu... its a java file09:35
neopsychesu?09:35
neopsychesu doesnt work.09:35
SeeBeeStill doesn't work, throw's up Vista and XP as options.09:35
SeeBeeNo Ubuntu in the boot list. =/09:35
SlimeyPeteSeeBee: I'd go back and check your syntax then09:35
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SeeBeehd(1,1)09:35
neopsychewhat do i type to get root access.?09:35
SeeBeeor hd (1,1)09:35
SeeBeeShould there be a spacE?09:35
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preaction!root | neopsyche09:36
ubotuneopsyche: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:36
SlimeyPete(hd1,1) I think09:36
Desert_Stormlol, no way im regreting, switching to Ubuntu :D09:36
SlimeyPetebut I don't have a config file to hand09:36
Desert_StormBut, can anyone help me? I downloaded, a .bin, package09:36
gcjhi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?09:36
LinuxJuggaloTextbook: i fixed my audio problem installing the latest alsa driver, lib and utils, not the latest stable version but the dev versions then adding in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base this line: options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba09:36
Desert_StormHow can i install it?09:36
SeeBeeThat's the only way to do it then?09:36
Desert_StormIf anyone knows, can he PM me09:36
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Textbookthanks LinuxJuggalo, and you can use headphones?09:36
gcjDesert_Storm, .bin is not a package format that i know of09:36
amadeuxwhat's with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/11063609:36
amadeuxIs it still around?09:37
Desert_StormWell09:37
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amadeuxisn't it pretty severe?09:37
cosmodadDesert_Storm: .bin as a CD-ROM container format?09:37
LinuxJuggaloTextbook when you do all steps in that link i gave you, reboot the laptop and everything should work fine09:37
BLOBOanyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&09:37
Textbookbecause audio works fine, except my headphone jack09:37
Desert_StormWell, think so09:37
Desert_StormWait09:37
Desert_StormI have a .RPM, file too09:37
LinuxJuggaloTextbook, yes, i also use external speakers connected thru the headphone jack09:37
gcjDesert_Storm, you can try that one with alien, but be prepared it might break things09:37
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SeeBee(hd 1,1) you think is the way to do it huh?09:37
Desert_StormAlien?09:37
cosmodadDesert_Storm: what does `file <bin file>' say?09:37
sagari have a hard disk which used to be fat32, but then later i formatted it as ext3, and now i've repartitioned it and want to install ubuntu on it as reiserfs...but in the ubuntu installer, it shows up as still having a single fat32 partition!! how can i fix this and get the partition editor to see its partitions?09:37
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freak124does anyone now how it's possible that on the live cd my partitions are visible in nautilus and they are not in the partition manager that's included in the installation? The previous times I installed ubuntu this all worked perfectly09:38
cosmodadDesert_Storm: what software is this?09:38
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iyntxpomogite09:38
Desert_StormJava09:38
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cosmodadDesert_Storm: why don't you use the official rep?09:38
Desert_Stormjdk-6u2-linux-i586.java09:38
Desert_StormWhere can i get it?09:38
Desert_StormSynaptic09:38
Desert_Storm?09:38
ShapeshifterQuestion: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?09:38
mzuverinkI am using gnome and would like to use Kontact because of its superior traits over evolution.  However contact is ugly in gnome.  is there something that helps smooth out that uglyness?09:38
cosmodad!java | Desert_Storm09:38
ubotuDesert_Storm: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre09:38
gcjDesert_Storm, chmod a+x on it, then run it09:38
peter_anyone know of a program that i use to forward my hotmail to my gmail....or thunderbird?09:39
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neopsycheis it important to have a firewall on local machine?09:39
cosmodadDesert_Storm: use the Ubuntu packages unless you have a good reason to use the .bin package09:39
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Desert_StormAh09:39
Desert_StormOkay09:39
Desert_StormThank you09:39
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cosmodadneopsyche: depends on your network environment09:39
TextbookLinuxJuggalo: thanks, will reboot in a little bit, try it out09:40
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cosmodadneopsyche: if you're protected by another firewall anyway, I wouldn't consider it necessary09:40
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cosmodadneopsyche: on the other hand, if this is a laptop and you frequently swtich networks, it might be a good idea09:40
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peter_does anyone use gotmail?09:40
gcjhi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?09:40
LinuxJuggaloTextbook no problem, if that does not solve your problem feel free to come back :)09:40
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Desert_StormThank you all, for helping09:41
Mr_Awesomehi, im having trouble setting up my printer. im following these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=lexmark+howto. when i get to the part where it says to mount the usb filesystem and edit the /etc/fstab file, i have no idea what to actually do. could someone please help me out?09:41
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neopsycheim behind a router... but not sure ... router not configured amazingly... the router is behind another network.. i just want to be able to know if there is some whacky program trying to access the internet without me knowing.. i only recently installed ubuntu.. so still windows paranoid09:41
Desert_StormIm gonna go now, bye09:41
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cosmodadneopsyche: are you behind a NAT09:41
cosmodadneopsyche: ?09:41
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SeeBeeAnd oh, just one more question.09:41
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SeeBee(hd1,0) is the correct syntax?09:42
SeeBeeOr is it (hd 1,0)09:42
zxcv_is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?09:42
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Jack_SparrowMr_Awesome:  from terminal gksudo gedit /etc/fstab09:42
iyntxi use update ubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 and my X not started after reboot. Help me:'(. X system report error "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! " but my nvidia drivers has bin installed (gf6500 | i use nvidia-glx(not legacy and nvidia-new))09:42
BLOBOanyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&09:42
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SeeBeeAnd (hd1,1) is the first partition in the second disk drive right?09:42
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FastPuttyis there a way i see all data hex and snifff packets info that go trough eth0 with tcpdump?09:43
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Mr_AwesomeJack_Sparrow: ah, i see. thanks a lot09:43
cliangrun sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg09:43
Jack_SparrowSeeBee: second partition..09:43
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gcjFastPutty, tcpdump -s 0 -X09:43
[Ramy] i have a prb with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz , i got this wrror message : Could not download all repository indexes09:43
[Ramy] The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.09:43
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[Ramy] error*09:43
iyntxin version 7.04 i'm use envy for install driver nvidia09:43
ShapeshifterQuestion: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?09:43
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Jack_Sparrow!envy09:44
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!09:44
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dgjones!gutsy | iyntx09:44
ubotuiyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+109:44
LinuxJuggaloFastPutty: you can install a network sniffer like etherape09:44
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LinuxJuggalo!hardy heron09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:44
Jack_Sparrowiyntx: your entire problem is that you used the envy script...09:44
LinuxJuggalo!hardy09:44
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron09:44
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`MatirWhat is the best way to mount drives from another linux computer?  I've looked at NFS, CIFS, and SSHFS... NFS seems complex and seems to have security issues... CIFS seems windows-oriented, and SSHFS seems like a bit of a hack... what do you all think?09:45
bill__yes.09:45
iyntx:(09:45
Jack_Sparrow!samba09:45
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:45
dgjonesMatir, I use NFS, it seemed the simplest method & has worked brilliantly09:45
LinuxJuggaloi wont install 7.10, ill wait for hardy i like LTS releases09:45
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`Matirdgjones, do you run it on the standard ports?09:46
Jack_SparrowLinuxJuggalo: YOu can do what I do.. I have two different ubuntu's on same machine..09:46
iyntx < ubotu> iyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of09:46
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linux4mehow do i add kernel support for ipvs? i'm running ubuntu fiesty. i ran "sudo apt-get install ipvsadm and it says the kernel does not support IPVS09:46
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bill__run openvz09:46
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dgjonesMatir, yes, just straight installation, connecting by ip address (my router gives a fixed ip to each machine)09:46
phatfishThe current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?09:47
iyntxthnx for info :(09:47
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LinuxJuggaloJack_Sparrow im fine just with 7.04 for now :)09:47
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pumahow to join gtsuy?09:47
peter_ anyone uses gotmail?09:47
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Enselicpuma: "join gutsy"?09:47
pumayes09:47
Jack_Sparrowslashj #Ubuntu+109:48
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IdahoEv_help, I cannot get apache2 to run.  I installed with "apt-get install apache2", and apt claims that it is installed and up-to-date.   conf files look good.   But /etc/init.d/apache2 start  (or restart) does not produce any output and apache does not show up under ps waux | grep apache09:48
Enselicpuma: maybe the answer is: type /j #ubuntu+1  in your irc client09:48
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peter_puma do u use gotmail?09:48
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EnselicJack_Sparrow: // gives /09:48
neopsycheIs there no ftp client that has gui that can cut / paste09:48
Jack_Sparrow:)09:48
Enselic/ <- like that09:48
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Jack_Sparrow/09:48
Enselicneopsyche: Nautilus09:48
LinuxJuggaloneopsyche: gftp and filezilla09:49
TextbookLinuxJuggalo: no go :(09:49
remi____Desert_Storm, do you have virtual desktops working correctly with beryl ?09:49
remi____pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?09:49
Enselicneopsyche: just use the normal file namanger09:49
Textbook< = sound guy09:49
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Enselicneopsyche: Places -> Connect to server    and choose FTP09:49
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izm99in launchpad, how should I suggest a bug be closed?  I reported it, but I don't see the option anywhere...09:50
overclucker // = escape char09:50
remi____beryl on ubuntu sux.09:50
Absolute0for some reason everything i try to install is unathenticated, is there a way to fix this?09:50
PKdoRis there a wine IRC?09:50
Jack_Sparrowwinehq09:50
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overcluckeroks09:50
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LinuxJuggaloTextbook: what does it say when you type: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec09:50
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overclucker\09:51
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amadeuxisn't this bug pretty severe? bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/11063609:52
Discererwhen doing sudo apt-get install proftd on a fresh install of feisty, I get this:09:52
DiscererProFTPd warning: cannot start in neither standalone nor inetd/xinetd.09:52
Discererideas?09:52
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TextbookLinuxJuggalo: Codec: Realtek ALC861-VD09:52
TextbookCodec: Generic 11c1 Si305409:52
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EnselicDiscerer: read the README and INSTALL files in /usr/share/docs/proftp or similar09:52
Jack_SparrowDiscerer: which repo is that comming from?09:52
EnselicDiscerer: look for instalation notes09:53
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PKdoRim wondering if its better to use wine with the original windows libaries or not?09:53
bruenigJack_Sparrow, it's obvious it is a post install script that is running the daemon, and that is an error coming from the daemon not apt09:53
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DiscererJack_Sparrow ? it's all default09:53
proogGRUB is very slow at starting if I have a USB flash disk plugged in while booting. Why is this?09:53
Discereryes bruenig09:53
EnselicPKdoR: how do you mean?09:53
IdahoEv_please help: apache2 does not start when I run "/etc/init.d/apache2 start".   What should I look for?09:53
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LinuxJuggaloTextbook: play around with it, there are a few things you can do like in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base set options snd-hda-intel model=auto09:53
Jack_SparrowAfternoon bruenig...09:53
EnselicIdahoEv_: the logs in /var/logs/apache209:54
gnuskooldo you guys reckon ubuntu will ever catch mac n vista in looks?09:54
LinuxJuggaloor options snd-hda-intel model=genric or generic09:54
bruenig!ot | gnuskool09:54
ubotugnuskool: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:54
Discererthat was what happened when I tried to launch proftpd (or rather, it tried to launch itself) after the apt-get thing was done09:54
Enselicgnuskool: of course, it's only a matter of time, not competence09:54
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TextbookLinuxJuggalo: thanks a lot09:54
bruenigDiscerer, so troubleshoot the program, saying it happens when you use apt is misleading09:54
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IdahoEv_Enselic: all files in  in /var/logs/apache2 are empty, no messages09:54
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LinuxJuggaloTextbook: no problem :)09:54
PKdoREnselic: i was reading the wine facts and it says something about using the original ms DLL intead of the winehq probided API09:54
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gnuskoolEnselic: i duuno, ey, the basic stuff like fonts, themes n that are a major challenge for linux09:55
EnselicIdahoEv_: look where apache puts it log files then09:55
Textbooksee, I did do a little homework myself, because I had already upgraded to the latest dev releases of alsa drivers/lib/utils , and the internal speakers are actually working a lot better than they were before09:55
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EnselicPKdoR: I see, well that's better to ask at #winehq then09:55
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Discererit just confuses me that ubuntuguide.org says that sudo apt-get install proftpd is all you need to do... it doesn't hint that anything else needs to be done to make it actually work09:55
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Enselicgnuskool: in what way is it a major challenge09:56
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IdahoEv_Enselic: that is where it puts the logs.   There is nothing there because /etc/init.d never even started apache09:56
proogno one knows why GRUB gets so slow when a USB device is plugged in?09:56
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bruenigDiscerer, it is a problem with proftpd, also ubuntuguide.org, not an official site, lot of it is old and crap09:56
gnuskoolEnselic: it never seems to improve, fonts a re still ugly, so a re icons09:56
PKdoRens09:56
EnselicIdahoEv_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2 and restart09:56
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svisorPlaying around with 7.10... At first when I resized a window it was "animated". Now after an update its just a blue rectangle and no animation.09:57
PKdoREnselic: ty i already did and am just waiting to get someones attention at that channel09:57
gnuskoolis it lack of 'artsy' types in open-source?09:57
prooggnuskool: you do know that GNOME is skinnable, right?09:57
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bruenigproog, Enselic, seriously don't bite09:57
__mikemgnuskool, they are out there09:57
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svisorTried to reset the visual effect to "Extra" and did not get it back. How do I get it back?09:57
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Enselicgnuskool: download any distro 5 years old and everything looks far worse the currently. in another 5 years, things will look even better. have patience09:58
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bruenig!troll | gnuskool09:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:58
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bruenigguy comes in and says when will linux catch up with mac or windows in his first statement and the idiots answer09:58
Jack_SparrowGuys ... please take it to off topic... Enselic   gnuskool09:58
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Enselicit's ok, I'm done ayway :) cheers09:59
IdahoEv_no output from "dpkg-reconfigure apache2", no change and still no output from "/ect/init.d/apache2 start"09:59
gnuskoolproog: yeah,i skin my xfce desktop to the max, but i see forums filled with noobies who cant manually install icons, themes, etc,09:59
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IdahoEv_this is very odd09:59
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gnuskoolbruenig: i aint trolling, those a re honest concerns09:59
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svisorMOT: OpenOffice weblinks does no longer work as you click on em. Now you have to right click and choose to open em. Can I get back the old behaviour somehow?09:59
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gnuskoolJack_Sparrow: k10:00
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brueniggnuskool, the first question you asked when you came in here was that, it is obvious what you are doing, I commend you for coming in here realizing this channel is full of ubuntu users who well you know, but seriously don't take advantage of them, it's like messing with retarded kids in school or something10:00
IdahoEv_other info:   I tried remove/reinstall apache2.   It says it only removed and then reinstalled 86Kb of files, which seems very small for apache2...10:00
Jack_Sparrowgnuskool: If they cant drop a tar file from gmome-look.org onto the theme manager I worry for all society10:00
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NMajikIs there a file that contains a list of installed packages?10:01
bruenigNMajik, dpkg --get-selections10:01
LjLNMajik: you can create one by typing " dpkg --get-selections > filename "10:01
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puma?join ubuntu 1?10:01
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defrysk /j #ubuntu+110:01
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NMajikbruenig & LjL : Thanks10:02
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puma /j #ubuntu+110:02
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pumano action10:02
LjLpuma: ... without the leading spaces10:02
IdahoEv_"apache2ctl start" gives an error:  "(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80"10:03
defrysk:s10:03
IdahoEv_and also "unable to open logs"10:03
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gnuskool! off topic10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:05
ScuniziIdahoEv_, you might ask some of this in #ubuntu-server10:05
gnuskool!off-topic10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:05
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justin420hi there everybody, can anyone tell me what package i have to sudo apt-get remove--purge to get rid of mysqld_safe?10:06
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overclucker> !offtopic10:06
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justin420genii: looking at synaptic its not installed?10:07
NallemanDoes anyone have any tips for any good program for editing .mov files?10:07
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Morganeplease can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???10:08
e\ectro_is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?10:08
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geniijustin420: Well, thats the package10:08
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ubuntu_Everytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this_10:09
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timstokmanhi, is there any way to make that, when i am using wifi wpa enterprise, the inner authentication protocol for TTLS is PAP? I can't see anything in the dialog that pops up when connecting to my network. And how can I set per-network preferences for my wifi card?10:09
Morganeplease can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???10:09
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justin420genii: any other ideas then? should i just kill the process and hope it doesnt restart next time or what? i have tried installing mythtv  recently if that helps at all. i have sudo apt-get remove --purge EVERYTHING that was installed when I did install mythtv10:10
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wolferineMorgane, 'ps -A  | grep kopete'10:10
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overcluckerMorgane: is there n icon for it on top gnome pannel?10:10
line72is there a way to get evolution to pop-up reminders like it used to instead of using the notification area?10:10
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geniijustin420: mythtv likely installed something as backend for storage which pulled in the mysql daemon10:11
Morganeno overlucker that is what is so strange10:11
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Morganeoverlucker well an icon to execute the program yes10:12
wolferineMorgane, your aware of shell/terminal commands, coredct ?10:12
wolferinecorrect*10:12
Morganewolferine not really am a beginner10:12
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biebjustin420, did you like ubuntu as a mythtv os?10:13
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geniijustin420: perhaps try the --purge on packages mythtv-backend and mythtv-database10:13
justin420genii: here is a list of everything i did, to get rid of mythtv and all other dependencies.10:13
justin420http://pastebin.ca/72345310:13
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tdizzy!GRUB10:14
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:14
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Morganenot possible to kill the process :(10:14
justin420bieb: it looked like it would be really cool; but i couldnt get any of my settings to save; so i couldnt add my tv tuner card that was detected just fine.10:14
ipxEverytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this?10:14
{[rediz] }SCROFT: r u livin in c-croft westyorks?10:14
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tdizzycan anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/10:15
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justin420bieb: if i get a newer pc; i think i just may install knopmyth distro on this pc, to check that out. i heard that is an awesome distro just for myth10:15
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exacthello10:15
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Morganeplease can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on10:16
biebI am getting ready to build a PC to use for Myth, so just trying to hear others experiences10:16
exacthow can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?10:16
Morganeplease can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and cannot kill the process10:16
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KidProQuo /join #ubuntu-art10:16
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riotkittieMorgane: kill it with -9 ?10:17
riotkittie or killall?10:17
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tdizzycan anyone offer me any help?10:17
Morganeriotkittie how i do that?10:17
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bewstsuspend to ram not working for me; I've exhausted online clues I could find.  Anyone care to assist?10:18
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hal14450_Morgane, kill -9 <pid> or killall <process name>10:18
Morganeok thanks hal1445010:18
sharperguyanyone know of a good app for composing music scores?10:18
geniitdizzy: You need to change ownership of that file to the user which that directory belongs. Then after to change the permissions on it to 64410:18
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tdizzyi did that...10:18
jimmygoonThis isn't _exactly_ ubuntu based but can anyone recommend a decent Live disc to wipe a hard drive off?10:18
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biebknoppix or use ubuntu live10:19
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geniitdizzy: Then delete it. It will be recreated next time X runs10:19
garette!pidgin10:19
riotkittieslax. deb based live CDs make me want to cry10:19
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.010:19
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde10:19
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Puenktchenhallo10:20
riotkittieforced by AOL's legal dept.  oh my gaaaawd.10:20
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biebjimmygoon.. use knoppix or ubuntu live10:20
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e\ectro_is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?10:20
MoNsTeRriotkittie, lol10:20
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exactjimmygoon: use /dev/urandom ro overwrite your data several times, else you can use 'wipe' to delete compromising files, (i'd recommand using dd to copy /dev/urandom several times on the partition you wish to erase, though)10:21
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MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde10:21
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biebJimmy.. you can also use shred10:21
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exactbieb: arent shred and wipe from the same package?10:22
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biebummm.. good question.. I havent used wipe before, but have used shred10:22
tdizzy!kde10:22
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.10:22
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exactbieb: nope, you're right, they're different packages10:23
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tdizzy!xcfe10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xcfe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:23
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exacthow can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?10:23
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exactfeisty 7.04 btw10:24
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biebexact, I think shred is still the package the feds claim does the best job of clearing a drive so no trace of forensic data10:24
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all_over/server irc.brasnet.org10:24
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riotkittiei dont think the settings mix up. the apps just overlap in the menu10:24
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john_doeIf I install 7.10 now, will I then have to reinstall when it's released as stable?10:24
Amaranthjohn_doe: nope10:24
MoNsTeRtdizzy, how do i get support for kubuntu10:25
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riotkittieMoNsTeR: there's a #kubuntu10:25
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john_doeAmaranth: I'll just apt-get upgrade?10:25
MoNsTeRriotkittie, ight thanks man10:25
__mikemAmaranth, why does it say that bantracker has been shut down to anonymous users due to server load?10:25
exactbieb: i don't know who said what, but i'm quite sure that if you overwrite a file over 300 times with random data, someone who'd like to look at what was there will have a damn good time ;)10:25
Amaranthjohn_doe: yeah10:25
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Amaranth__mikem: *shrug*10:25
tdizzygenii: when i delete the file, it gives the same error when i boot10:25
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john_doeAmaranth: great thanks!10:26
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yrlnry__How do I change the meaning of an entry in the Applications>Programming menu?10:26
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AucklaHi.10:26
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tdizzycan anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/10:27
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KDEusrcan someone tell me how i can ignore a broken package with synaptic?10:27
VletSo, I'm having a problem on 7.04 where whenever I paste anything, all that gets pasted is a bunch of junk (looks like opening unicode text with a non-unicode app)... any thoughts why?10:27
biebBy default shred overwrites a file 25 times with random data10:28
justin420yrlnry__: right click on the applications places system menu: click on edit menus. find your app (i.e applications>programming>program i am looking for) double click on it, then tweak it the way you want it10:28
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boubbinis it possible to install all available and supported *-dev packages ?10:28
riotkittieit should rewrite it with a bunch of the nigerian scam emails :D10:28
kesha..10:28
KDEusri've gotta have this package installed but every time i load synaptic it complains that the package is broken10:28
boubbinwith one command ofc :P10:28
yrlnry__justin420: thanks.10:28
__mikemsudo apt-get install *dev*10:28
__mikem?10:29
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justin420yrlnry__: yeah dude no problem! :)10:29
geniitdizzy: Are you using sudo with the commands to rm or chmod or chown ?10:29
biebexact... here is the final answer for getting rid of data... For the extremely paranoid, however, no command works better than concentrated sulphuric acid. LOL10:29
KDEusrcan i get a hand?10:29
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KDEusranyone?10:29
exactheh, funnily enough my random kde wallpaper is now set to guybrush threepwood (MI) holding a two headed squirrel (ZMK) in front of the purple tentacle (MM)... for all the lucas fan here, i can send a copy somewhere....10:29
exactbieb: lol ;)10:29
biebKDE... just use apt-get install and see if that works10:29
KDEusrsee if that works for what?10:30
tdizzygenii: yeah i used to sudo to remove the file10:30
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SpiderPigi have a router in order so many computers can share the internet connection. is there a way for me to monitor the traffic over the router? app name please10:30
KDEusrim not sure i understand what you are trying to get me to do10:30
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tdizzygenii: i used sudo**10:30
david003hello. i have an ".ace" file, how do i extract the contents?10:30
exactbieb: http://driveslag.eecue.com/10:30
biebKDE... see if that will install the package10:30
KDEusrwhat i am trying to do, ignore a broken package with synaptic. i did it before, i just cant find how to do it on google10:30
bruenig!info unace10:30
bill__SpiderPig, mrtg, ntop ...10:30
SpiderPigbill thanks10:31
ubotuunace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-4 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB10:31
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overlordI have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?10:31
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geniitdizzy: OK. is the /home/<name>   directory the .dmrc is in correspond to the <name> which you are logging in as?10:31
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tdizzyyeah10:31
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biebexact.. that is cool10:32
Absortohello! I have an hp pavillion dv2~ laptop which has an additional video port. I'd like to see my display on a projector. How can I do this?10:32
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AbsortoI tried Fn+F4, but that doesn't work. I tried changing the resolution too. No luck.10:32
exactbieb: i'm not sure if "cool" is the best term to describe it, but i'm quite sure you can say your data "bye bye" ;-)10:32
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geniitdizzy: Did you recently copy this dir back in from someplace else without using -p switch in the cp command?10:32
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MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde10:33
tdizzyno10:33
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exacthow can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time? (feisty)10:34
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david003bruenig: can you be more specific? i install unace, then what?10:34
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geniitdizzy: Have you been starting the machine with the Recovery kernel then trying to start the X server?10:34
bjwebbcan anyone expalin this http://pastebin.ca/72348210:34
overlordI have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?10:34
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tdizzyno i didnt10:34
Absortoexact: look at scripts that start with S in /etc/rc2.d10:34
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bruenigdavid003, man unace10:34
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Absortoexact: those are started automatically. They are simbollyc links to scripts in /etc/init.d/10:34
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exactAbsorto: ok, that's it... thanks a lot :) i was looking in rc5 and rc3...10:35
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CommonCloneI tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas?10:35
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Absortoexact: i'm not sure how it works now. There used to be a file /etc/inittab10:36
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Absortoexact: that file had a line that configured the default runlevel. It isn't there anymore, I dunno why.10:36
Absortoexact: but 2 seems to be the default10:36
geniitdizzy: I would suggest something like:    sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>           where <name> is the user name which corresponds to this obviously. then: sudo chmod 644 /home/<name>/.dmrc10:36
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jimmygoondelayed response: @bieb, exact, not to be too picky, but I was hoping for something that would simply zero the hard drive... but I suppose using /dev/urandom would be fine for that10:36
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cazzehi10:37
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cazzeanyone xen on gutsy?10:38
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CommonCloneI tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas...I would really like to be able to reboot my computer10:38
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hemanHello10:38
remi____pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?10:38
hemanI have a question please about ubuntu10:38
exactAbsorto: yes, that what i was looking for too, and the graphical tools werent helping me a bit to find the runlevel or what was running or not, but you seems to be right, thanks a lot for your help :-)10:38
bobgillanyone here using Thunderbird? I'm trying to upgrade to 2.0.0.6 from 1.5.. just downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla's site, but what is the install path of Thunderbird where I would install it to ?10:38
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geniitdizzy: You may also want to do:  sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>/.*                     <-- note /.*     after <name> as different from previous command10:39
_Ren@remi: you must have some "action" configured to that edge of the screen10:39
pthomasCan I change the font, or at least the font size of command-line?10:39
hemancan I get a dreamscene affect in ubuntu other than VLC10:39
_Renbobgill: you should grab thunderbird from the repos10:39
hemanlike a compiz plugin or something...?10:39
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bobgill_Ren: I did.. it's 1.5, I want to upgrade to 2.0.0.610:40
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SpiderPigbill_ so how does mrtg work?10:40
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_Renbobgill: that's the most recen version on the feisty repos?10:40
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_Renweird10:40
SpiderPigbill_ is it graphical or command?10:40
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alcaponageSomeone help me please, my ubuntu won't start~10:40
bobgillyes10:40
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hemanis this the wrong place to ask about that?10:41
_Renthat sucks10:41
Abdgood evening all10:41
_Renwell, then10:41
alcaponageI accidentally unplugged my usb without unmounting10:41
alcaponageNow it wont' start10:41
mainstreami got a problem also... my sound aint working :|10:41
bruenigbobgill, you aren't going to be able to outright upgrade because ubuntu does some weird stuff with thunderbird and firefox10:41
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_Renif you downloaded a binary tar.gx it should run off the directory where you extracted it10:41
PKdoRis there a net limiter for linux?10:41
_Renjust double click the binary, check for execution permission if it doesn't work10:42
PKdoRa bandwith limiter?10:42
bobgillI have found this: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/    <-- recommended or avoid ?10:42
alcaponageCan someone help me? my ubuntu won't start10:42
stravhe I switched to gutsy beta yesterday and went into a bug I would like to see if it can be reproduced. Mainly, there seems to be a problem with the xorg frame buffer driver. If you install the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev and xvfb packages, you should normally be able to set a vga value (i.e.: vga=792) as an option to the kernel in grub then your virtual terminal should ran into a resolution of 1024x768, on my side, with those settings, virtual terminals w10:42
stravon't load. The same settings worked for me in feisty so, if anyone is willing to try...10:42
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde10:42
mainstreamlol so many problems here :P10:42
tdizzygenii: i got the very same errors again10:42
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bruenigbobgill, even though those two aren't fhs complaint and therefore should be installed in /opt, ubuntu tries to cut them up until they are somewhat fhs complaint and so stuff is all over the place, the best way to do it is just extract into /opt, write .desktop file that points to the binary10:42
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alcaponageI get RAMDISK: ram out of compressed data and10:42
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AbdI did something i should have not done with file flder permissions10:43
_Rencouldn't tell if it works or not10:43
hemanplease may somebody answer my question about dreamscene for UBUNTU10:43
alcaponageInvalid compressed format (err=1)10:43
bruenigthis guy got a sourceforge project for scripting the install of another program?10:43
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bruenigwow10:43
_Renactually, I didn't know a bout10:43
_Renit10:43
hemanIs there an application like compiz that I could use...10:43
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Abdso can someone tell me how to reset to the defaut permissions of /usr/bin?10:43
tdizzy!beryl10:43
mainstreamcan anyone help me? i got a problem with my sound10:43
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects10:43
bruenig!problem10:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:43
BaumerHi I'm an idiot and need help with getting wireless to work10:43
jtkieferis there any way to update from 6.06 to 6.10 (and then eventually to 7.04) without doing the migrate your /home trick?10:43
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tdizzycan anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/10:44
_Ren@jtkiefer10:44
_Renyes, you can10:44
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geniitdizzy: I'm out of immediate ideas then. Something very odd is going on unless you are running X as root for instance in another users home directory or similar. Or perhaps somehow did already a mistaken chown -R of /home directory to someone else besides <name> where they need to own /home/<name>10:44
hemanCan I get a dream scene effect in UBUNTU 7.0410:44
_Renjust run update-manager -d from a terminal10:44
jtkieferok, thanks10:44
_RenIt will tell you that there's a new version of ubuntu10:44
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mainstream_Ren10:44
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BaumerMy wireless card is missing10:44
bobgillbruenig: ok... so I could extract the thunderbird.tar.gz to /opt ? Sorry, I just didn't follow exactly10:44
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hemananyone...?10:45
bruenigbobgill, extract it, put the directory in /opt and done10:45
stravoh np... I just found the bug in launchpad.. thanks anyways10:45
_Renbobgill: it should work on any directory10:45
PKdoRis there a bandwith limiter for ubuntu?10:45
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_Reneven your desktop10:45
jtkieferRen, everything else has to be patched up first for it to work though right?10:45
_Renjtk: exactly10:45
Abdhow can I reset the /usr/bin permissions to default?10:45
bruenigAbd, just the directory?10:46
brueniglike nothing in the directory?10:46
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Abdyes10:46
_RenAbd: you shouldn't have changed them in the first place xD10:46
bruenigAbd, 755 I'm sure10:46
Abdyes i know :(10:46
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tckAbd, chmod 755 /usr/bin10:46
geniitdizzy: For the second one, sudo chmod 755 /home/<name>10:47
tdizzyk10:47
Abdcool thanks10:47
BaumerHello, I'm an idiot... but eth0, which I set as my wireless card cannot be found10:47
LhademmorAnyone who knows why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/techboard-2006 is still Pending Approval? Isn't it a little obsolete?10:47
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tckBaumer, try eth110:47
aoitot10:47
BaumerI've been trying to get it to work10:47
tckor wlan010:47
bruenigor ath010:47
BaumerSo far unsuccesfull... now I'm very unsuccesful10:47
bruenigor just do things blindly because I don't know what I am talking about10:47
tdizzygenii: k that took care of the first problem, but ive still got the second10:48
bruenigoh sorry became tck for a second10:48
tckBaumer, what does iwconfig say10:48
BaumerOk, eth1 is my ethernet10:48
Baumerit lists eth1 and lo10:48
MoNsTeRcan somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde10:48
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tckBaD_CrC, iwconfig eth1 essid 'name of network' key s:mypassword Mode Managed10:48
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ScuniziMoNsTeR, #ubuntu-effects10:48
geniitdizzy: I need to leave work in about 5 minutes so cannot help much more at this time10:48
tcksorry what was for Baumer10:48
Baumerit lists lo and eth1 and says no wireless extensions10:48
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tdizzygenii: got any idea?10:49
Luke_SAnyone here use reconstructor before?10:49
bobgillbruenig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543715    would you recommend using this method ? (extracting to /opt seems fine but just curious)10:49
Abdearlier I did this chmod a+rwx /usr/bin how to undo that?10:49
Baumerbut I set eth1 as my ethernet card in installation10:49
geniitdizzy: remove again the .dmrc file10:49
bruenigbobgill, it isn't curious, that is where ubuntu should put it to begin with10:49
tckAbd, chmod a-rwx /usr/bin10:49
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Baumereth0 was set as my wireless... it used to be there until I installed ndiswrapper10:49
Abdthanks again tck10:49
whoniccawould there be any logical explanation for me to randomly lose all my icon themes besides crux ?10:50
bruenigAbd, you don't want to do that10:50
tckBaumer, go to System > Administration > Network10:50
_Renwhonicca: no10:50
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Abdwhy?10:50
tckis your wirless card option available10:50
whoniccahave no idea what happened =\10:50
Baumernope10:50
bruenigAbd, well because then no will have permission to do anything, three people told you to do 75510:50
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_Renwhonicca: it happens usually?10:50
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exactis there a version of ubuntu with nothing setup (no gnome, no X, etc...?)10:50
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geniitdizzy: Good luck with it, I must leave.10:50
_Renexact: yes, server10:50
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whonicca_Ren, first time it ever happened10:51
_Renserver edition, sorry10:51
recon Does anybody know how to type an invisible ASCII Character (SOH, hex 0x1, octal 001) in the virtual terminal? Heck, typing it anywhere in X would be useful, too.10:51
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Baumertck: nope10:51
Luke_SCan you make a CD that only has X and no desktop manager?10:51
tckBaumer, is there a wireless LED on your laptop to tell its detected10:51
Abdyes when i did the chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder i realy could not do a thing10:51
hemandoes anyone know how to get a dreamscene effect in UBUNTU?10:51
Abdi'm trying to undo it10:51
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_Renwhonicca: weird problem, never happened to me. did you mess up with tools like art manager or something?10:51
exact_Ren: and it just installs a base system? no servers too? (it might sounds like a stupid question, i know)10:52
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bruenigAbd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxrw-rw-, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------10:52
BaumerYes10:52
BaumerIt's not on10:52
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Lhademmor!wiki10:52
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.10:52
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Abdso what are the optins i have?10:52
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whonicca_Ren, no, i was rebooting my system but it locked up so i shut it off via the power button10:52
_Renexact: not really sure, since it's a server oriented distro it should *ask* for package selection10:52
LhademmorAnyone knows what IRC the WikiSquad is in?10:52
Abd*options10:52
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bruenigAbd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxr-xr-x, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------10:52
bobgillbruenig: I extracted the "thunderbird" dir to /opt... just ran thunderbird but it's still saying 1.510:52
tckBaumer, does dmesg say anything about your card ; what type of card do you have ?10:52
tdizzyanyone got an help for my problem? i cant log in because i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/10:52
whoniccacome back and icons are missing10:52
hemanubotu you takling to me?10:52
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bruenigbobgill, what do you mean you "ran" it10:53
hemantalking*10:53
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tdizzy!lol10:53
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.10:53
BaumerIt's a broadcom dell wireless ... I forget the number10:53
bobgillbruenig: did alt+f2 and "mozilla-thunderbird"10:53
_Renwhonicca: during bootup, did it complain about filesystem errors or something?10:53
whoniccais there a way to boot up without the ubuntu splash to see if i get any errors during bootup10:53
tckBaumer, have you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide10:53
bruenigAbd, to get back to rwxr-xr-x, you do 755 like they told you above10:53
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Creeturetdizzy: I'm not sure how that message can be any clearer.10:53
exact_Ren: ok thanks for the information anyway i'm going to try it :-)10:53
whonicca_Ren, no, no errors10:53
tckhey Baumer i have that card, try this, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter10:53
registereI hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????10:53
bruenigbobgill, yeah don't do that, run the executable in the extracted directory10:53
Abdok thanks again bruenig10:53
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tdizzyCreeture: im a linux newb and dont understand how to fix the error10:53
whonicca_Ren, any way to boot up without the ubuntu splash?10:53
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registereI hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????10:53
_Renwhonicca: booting up in failsafe mode doesn't work?10:54
whoniccaoh let me try that10:54
whoniccabrb10:54
Creeturetdizzy: Was it ever working? What did you do that caused the breakage? Let's start there.10:54
exactwhonicca: you should change your grub settings file (w8t a sec)10:54
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Baumertck:  dmesg doesn't say anything about my wireless10:54
whoniccaoh ok10:54
tck do the command above10:54
Palleeregistere: try iso recorder by alex *something*10:54
tckBaumer,  sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter10:55
z9999Is there a way to list all installed codecs in Ubuntu?10:55
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bruenigz9999, no10:55
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exactwhonicca: my /boot/grub/menu.lst file looks like this:10:55
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Creetureregistere: Feinman, Alex. http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm10:55
exactkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=b41468c0-2d07-4668-8c3d-1212cbf60959 ro nosplash vga=0x31b10:55
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bobgillbruenig: ok, it works... but it doesn't have my account info or anything... ie., it's perhaps not reading my ~/home/user/.thunderbird profile... how can I make it do that so I don't have to add everything all over again ??10:55
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exactwhonicca: the "nosplash" is what you want10:55
whoniccayeah10:55
bruenigbobgill, it should be reading it10:55
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exactwhonicca: the vga=0x31b means to set the framebuffer into 1280x1024x16 mode10:56
hemanDoes anyone know any other fun features that I can get for ubuntu please10:56
bobgillit's not :(10:56
bruenigbobgill, is it not .mozilla/thunderbird10:56
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BaumerHmm the download ran into broken link...10:56
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exactwhonicca: you can try a search on google for vga framebuffer grub modes or something like that to find a list10:57
bobgillbruenig: there's .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird in /home/user.10:57
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tckBaumer, how do you mean?10:57
bruenigbobgill, ok so it is probably reading one and not the other try swapping them around10:57
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Creeturewhonicca: You can also look in the kernel documenation. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/vga.txt is where it is. Might have a gander at the git repository if you don't (you probably don't) have it installed.10:57
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tckBaumer, what version of ubuntu are you using10:57
tBI was wondering if anyone here knew much about downloading source packages via apt, and then compiling it after modifying it.10:57
hemanwhat channel should I go to, to ask questions not for support?10:57
exactwhonicca: btw, i'm interrested on how to set RGB values to default colors in console mode, if you find anything, i'd take10:58
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BaumerIt got a 404 Not Found error while trying to connect to boredklink.googlepages.com|72.14.203.118|:8010:58
whoniccaonce u edit menu.lst10:58
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whoniccawhats the command to update grub10:58
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PKdoRcan any one recomend a bandwith limiter for linux?10:58
hemanhow do I change the top and bottom menu's theme please? I think thats relevant...10:58
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bobgillbruenig: wow you doggone genius... switched the folder names and it has loaded it all up... why was it doing that (reading the opposite one) ??10:58
piotr_/wc/10:58
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exactwhonicca: it's not like lilo, you just reboot, grub will take care of going to read the configuration file10:59
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rabid42whonicca there isn't one, grub rereads the menu.lst file on boot10:59
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LogicalDash"There are differences between the boot sector and its backup." Is that important?10:59
bruenigif only people would use some basic logic, this channel would be half as full10:59
VWJ1bnR1When I installed the KDE, I lost the GDM, and so I can't get the GUI login.  How do I get it back?10:59
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exactwhonicca: want a copy paste of my menu.lst?10:59
tckBaumer, the laptop you are trying to configure, does it have net access ?10:59
BaumerYep I'm using it10:59
whoniccathanks guys, i think i got it10:59
Baumerright now10:59
Creeturebruenig: What type of thinking leads you to that conclusion?10:59
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exactk10:59
exact;)10:59
whoniccaim even missing the ubuntu symbol11:00
Baumereth1 is ethernet hard wired11:00
whoniccaon my taskbar11:00
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tckBaumer, ok, try this site http://download.berlios.de/bcm43xx/b43-fwcutter-008.tar.bz211:00
whoniccafor the drop down menu =(11:00
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bruenigCreeture, there are two directories .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird, the thunderbird I just installed from mozilla is not reading my preferences, how do I get it to do that11:00
BaumerOk Done11:00
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bruenighmmm11:00
MegaqwertyHi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.11:00
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tdizzyCreeture: yeah it was for a while; i accidently removed my ubuntu partition, then restored it and the GRUB, and i got that error when i tried to log in11:01
tBDoes anyone know how to compile packages?11:01
Creeturebruenig: The one in /opt reads from ~/.thunderbird. The one in the Ubuntu repositories reads from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird11:01
tckBaumer, now extract it with, tar jxvf bcm*11:01
bruenigCreeture, yes, that is a question that someone just asked11:01
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tckBaumer, then cd bcm* folder, ./configure ; make   (then do) sudo make install11:01
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Beefheartwhats the move command in linux please?11:01
bruenigCreeture, you are telling me that even elementary logic couldn't have solved that11:02
bruenigBeefheart, mv11:02
Beefheartty11:02
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DShepherd!compile | tB11:02
ubotutB: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:02
bobgillbruenig: Sorry, some of us have many things going on in life that distracts us, I perhaps should've thought of that, but thanks for your help regardless, it's much appreciated :)11:02
tBThanks :)11:02
Creeturebruenig: I'm pretty sure it could've, but I'm not sure that there's even a hint of elementary logic in the minds of most users.11:02
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jtkieferhmm, ubuntu doesn't come with a c++ compiler to deal with package building11:02
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bruenigCreeture, right which is why I said what I said, I thought you were challenging my claim11:03
Creeturejtkiefer: It does if you aptitude install build-essential11:03
Creeturebruenig: Nah, I was being a smartass, that's all.11:03
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LhademmorYe Olde https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcademicInvolvement is largely obsolete and should either be updated or deleted11:03
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LhademmorCan I get a volunteer from the audience? :P11:03
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CreetureLhademmor: How much do you care what it looks like when I'm done? *evil grin*11:04
ShapeshifterQuestion: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?11:04
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jrib!compile > jtkiefer (read the private message from ubotu)11:04
tckBaumer, i gotta go, how are you getting on ?11:04
Baumerwhat was the second command?11:04
Baumer./configure didn't work11:04
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tckfirst is, ./configure   then you run11:04
jtkieferjrib, thanks11:04
tckmake11:04
LhademmorCreeture: As long as you change the line "as of now (May 2005)..." I'm good :P11:04
tckthen you run sudo make install11:04
_Renmaybe it doesn't have a configure file11:04
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Baumer./configure gave me No such file or directory11:04
whoniccastill missing all my icons =\11:05
_Renjust try make then11:05
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_Renwhonicca: sorry, I got afk11:05
jtkieferis it just me or do a lot of the archive repositories (for dapper) return error 403 (forbidden)11:05
Baumershould I be running the file Makefile?11:05
Baumeror fwcutter?11:05
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_Renwhonicca: I'm afraid I don't know exactly wat's going on11:06
whoniccathis is weird since it seems like all my drives are loading fine11:06
tdizzyCreeture: so any idea how to fix it?11:06
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whoniccai think it might be something with gnome that might have got screwed, maybe a config file11:06
_Renwhonicca: I first thought of a HD problem11:06
tckBaumer, join #m0011:06
MegaqwertyHi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.11:06
Creeturetdizzy: How did you restore the brokenness?11:06
whoniccacan u log in as root on ubuntu?11:06
whoniccasee if its just something to do with my home directory11:06
Megaqwerty !root | whonicca11:06
ubotuwhonicca: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:06
_Renwhonicca:by default, no11:07
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whoniccanevermind ill just add a user11:07
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tdizzyCreeture: TestDisk11:07
_Renwhonicca: try to add a new user and then check11:07
tdizzy!testdisk11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:07
Creeturewonicca: Copy and paste that exact question in Google. See whatcha get.11:07
tdizzylol11:07
SeveasMegaqwerty, not necessarily, look in your homedir in ,mozilla or .thunderbird11:07
ljlolelonce, in installed Ubuntu and the only login was Root11:07
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tdizzy!gnome11:07
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.11:07
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tdizzy!chicken11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chicken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:07
ljlolelthere was both a root user and a root password11:07
tdizzylol11:07
Seveas!bot abuse | tdizzy11:07
Creeturetdizzy: It's probably permissions. Walking you through how to fix it will be painful. Anything in there that you absolutely have to have?11:07
ubotutdizzy: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot11:07
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whoniccagreat whats the command to add a user? the add users proggy on ubuntu isnt even loading up for me11:08
bruenigadduser11:08
LjLwhonicca: adduser11:08
tdizzyCreeture: not really11:08
bruenigor useradd11:08
bruenigadduser is a front end11:08
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tdizzyCreeture: know of any web tutorial to guide me through it?11:08
Creeturetdizzy: A complete install takes me about 15 minutes. We could spend a couple of hours trying to fix it if you like.11:08
ljlolelwhonicca: adduser11:08
whoniccaPassword:11:08
whoniccaadduser: Only one or two names allowed.11:08
ljlolelwhonicca: sudo adduser joseph11:08
ShapeshifterQuestion: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?11:08
chris__where would i go if im having problems with mozilla not responding?11:09
CreetureShapeshifter: aptitude purge packagename11:09
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CreetureShapeshifter: Which package is it?11:09
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^Ocean^is there a /dev/ device for the Micraphone ?11:09
SeveasShapeshifter, sudo apt-get install name_of_that_package11:09
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^Ocean^with Alsa ?11:09
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Absolute0!xgl11:09
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:09
ShapeshifterCreeture: compiz-core ^^ and it's been there for weeks now. But I'm already on the newest version, that version there just seems to be nothing at all11:09
Absolute0!compiz11:10
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_RenShapeshifter: from unofficial repos?11:10
bottigerwhere do I edit the message which is shown when you log in with ssh ?11:10
Absolute0how do i switch to compiz?11:10
Seveasbottiger, sudo gedit /etc/motd11:10
Absolute0it says that its already installed11:10
erUSULbottiger: /etc/issue*11:10
b_wolf_007finally it looks I am connected in a chat11:10
_RenSystem -> preferences -> desktop effects11:10
ShapeshifterCreeture: yes, amaranths11:10
b_wolf_007please can anybady help me11:10
b_wolf_007HELP11:10
bottigerSeveas: thanks11:11
kaptenguhow can I use "svn checkout"?11:11
SeveasAbsolute0, enable desktop effects in system -> preferences > desktop effects11:11
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SeveasAbsolute0, or run this: compiz --replace11:11
Creetureb_wolf_007: Try asking a question first. Then we'll determine if we can answer it.11:11
preactionkaptengu, apt-get install subversion11:11
Beefheartanyone here got any experience with installing Anarchy Online on linux?11:11
Seveas!helpme | b_wolf_00711:11
ubotub_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:11
tdizzyCreeture: the install of the OS is really fast, but everything else i had on it will take a while to put back on11:11
kaptengupreaction: ty11:11
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b_wolf_007ok first of all greetengs 4 all of u11:11
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Absolute0Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"11:11
Creeturetdizzy: You said there was nothing that you needed to keep.11:11
b_wolf_007I have to many questions11:11
Seveas!u b_wolf_00711:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about u b_wolf_007 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:11
_Rentdizzy: you should use aptoncd11:11
Seveas!u | b_wolf_00711:11
Luke_SIs there no way to create an Ubuntu CD that has X but not a destktop manager (GNOME/KDE, etc...)?????11:11
ubotub_wolf_007: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:11
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ShapeshifterCreeture: I had compiz-core installed from the beginning, after the second update (it may be that it was the point where I changed reps from tuxfamily to amaranths) that compiz-core package went sticky forever. and it says that the pacakge will be updated but the two packes totally match11:12
SeveasLuke_S, there is, search for live cd customization on the wiki11:12
Absolute0Luke_S: apt-get remove gnome? :)11:12
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tdizzy_Ren: whats aptoncd?11:12
Megaqwerty !aptoncd | tdizzy11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:13
b_wolf_007I'm a tech  servicer , I'v worked to much with Windows, now I'm new in Ubuntu, I'v installed Ubuntu 7.04 one week ago11:13
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CreetureShapeshifter: I dunno. I try not to use anything outside of the normal repositories and despise the way those things you mentioned work. So good luck.11:13
Megaqwertyhuh11:13
ShapeshifterCreeture: huh, ok thx nway11:13
Megaqwertytdizzy: it makes a repository out of all the packages you've downloaded, and puts it on a CD.11:13
_Rentdizzy: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs (you choose the type of media) with all of the packages you've downloaded via APT-GET or APTITUDE, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers.11:13
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_RenAPTonCD will also allow you to automatically create media with all of your .deb packages located in one especific repository, so that you can install them into your computers without the need for an internet conection.11:13
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Luke_SSeveas: Is there a way to do it using reconstructor?11:13
b_wolf_007and I want to try ubuntu 7.10, but i want to clear some steps during installation of ubuntu11:13
tdizzythas11:14
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tdizzythanks*11:14
VWJ1bnR1When I tried to reload GDM, I got the following error message: invoce-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.11:14
SeveasLuke_S, I don't know reconstructor :)11:14
b_wolf_007i want to know what exactly am doing11:14
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Seveas_Ren, I'm going to steal that description or ubotu :)11:14
CreetureShapeshifter: Sorry. It's probably just a matter of making dpkg believe that the package is fully installed.11:14
_RenSeveas: it's from the website11:14
whoniccaAny special thing one needs to do to add / give a user gnome access?  I try to log in via gdm with my test account and it just stays locked up11:14
Seveas!aptoncd is <reply> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers11:14
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas11:14
Absolute0Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"11:15
_Renwhonica: you should add it to the desktop group11:15
chris__can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?11:15
_Renwhonica: but I'm not sure11:15
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SeveasAbsolute0, bad luck then11:15
whoniccaaddgrp?11:15
Absolute0Seveas: could that be because i have fglrx?11:15
Seveasyup yup11:15
chookjoin #ubuntu-fr11:15
blue|palmhow do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file?11:15
Seveasfglrx needs xgl before you can run compiz11:16
_RenAbsolute0: yes, fglrx doesn't support compiz, sorry11:16
Absolute0so no way to get compiz working for me?11:16
Seveaslot of work11:16
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SeveasAbsolute0, yeah, but imho not worth the effort. Docs are on the wiki11:16
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Absolute0ok11:16
Absolute0:)11:16
Absolute0will it work with xorg-ati driver?11:16
Seveasonly if you have a rather old ati card11:16
DevourerWhat does "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" mean?11:17
staykovmarin_does ubuntu come with evdev installed?11:17
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chris__can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?11:17
SeveasAbsolute0, but ati recently released all their specs so maybe there's a working driver in Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 :)11:17
blue|palmhow do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file? and how do I change this?11:17
Seveaschris__, this one would be good to start :)11:17
Seveasblue|palm, java -version11:17
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jribstaykovmarin_: no, but it is in the repos11:17
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Absolute0which one is 8.04?11:17
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Seveasblue|palm, and to change: sudo update-java-alternatives11:17
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SeveasAbsolute0, the one that will be released in april next year, codename Hardy Heron11:18
chris__ok theres too much going on here where else could i go ?11:18
Devourer!sound11:18
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:18
erUSULDevourer: somehow your sound card was not recogniced and the drivers were not loaded... so you do not have the sound dev files11:18
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erUSUL!sound | Devourer11:18
ubotuDevourer: please see above11:18
Absolute0oh11:18
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Absolute0so let me search..11:18
whonicca_Ren, group desktop doesnt seem to exist11:18
b_wolf_007sorry for my U ok11:18
jrib!support > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)11:18
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blue|palmSeveas, thanks loads11:18
LhademmorIs http://www.ubuntu.com/community/developerzone/bounties outdated, or haven't any bounties been completed since 2005?!11:18
jrib!ask | chris__11:19
ubotuchris__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:19
SeveasLhademmor, very outdated11:19
SeveasLhademmor, the entire bounty program is pretty much dead11:19
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staykovmarin_jrib: thx11:19
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LhademmorSeveas: So, should you pull the plug and delete the page?11:19
chris__ok so if someone could recomend me a channel in irc to get help with drivers and resolution changes that would be awesome11:19
SeveasLhademmor, yeah, someone should11:19
^Ocean^Is there a way too pipe sound too the Micraphone input too kinda of "Fake" sound input coming into the computer ?11:19
leladiapls i am trying to exclude two separate strings from my grep -v command line how do i do it?11:20
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Creetureleladia: egrep -v "string1|string2" maybe?11:20
Seveasleladia, or run grep twice :)11:20
jribchris__: you need to state your actual problem11:21
Seveasleladia, grep -v blabla /var/log/messages | grep -v bloblo11:21
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chris__there is too much here scrolling for me11:21
leladia Seveas: i don't want to run grep twice and i don't also want to use egrep11:21
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Seveasleladia, then read the manpage for grep if you don't want to take suggestions11:22
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Russelhiho11:22
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Seveasbtw, egrep is just grep -e11:22
betaIs it possible to load a windows partition on the physical drive through vmware or similar tool?11:22
leladiaSeveas: isn't there some other way?11:22
Creetureleladia: try grep -e"string1" -e"string2" to include both then. Otherwise, don't use grep. Quitcherbitchin and take a suggestion.11:22
Russelcan somebody post the "output" of visudo on a normal ubuntu installation?11:22
AutoMatriXhi folks ... plse hel me ... my RT73 USB wifi key freezes the complete system, at random ..11:22
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Seveasbeta, you can simply mount it...11:22
Seveas!mount | beta11:22
ubotubeta: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter11:22
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Seveas!ntfs | beta11:23
ubotubeta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:23
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betaSteveas, I don't want to mount the partition (i've already done this) i want to actually run a virtual windows11:23
Seveasbeta, ah ok11:23
jribchris__: ignore what everyone says and concentrate on what people say to you11:23
Seveasbeta, vmware has a tool to convert a windows install into a vm. Searching on the vmware website should help you find it11:23
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leladiaguys pls don't take any offence if i am refusing to do it ur way11:23
betaSteveas, alright I will try that. Thanks.11:23
SeveasRussel, do you mean the default sudoers file?11:24
LhademmorSeveas, who's responsible /// Who should I poke to?11:24
leladiai am not insulting ur intelligence11:24
tdizzy!aptoncd11:24
ubotuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers11:24
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Creetureleladia: We're not offended, but we've exhausted the options. Try one of 'em.11:24
SeveasLhademmor, matthew nuzum (newz2000 on freenode)11:24
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tdizzyi cant install APTonCD, using the source, the deb package, or Synaptic11:24
chris__ok  well i guess ill just go to random channels11:24
Seveas!ur is <alias> u11:24
ubotuI'll remember that, Seveas11:24
Seveas!4 is <alias> u11:25
RusselSeveas: have it now, but thx11:25
CreetureShe canna take much more Cappin, there's no more switches!11:25
SeveasRussel, ok :)11:25
Lhademmor!ur11:25
ubotuUnless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:25
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leladia Creeture: from man there is the -E option and i tried using it with -v... is that not possible11:25
Lhademmor!god11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:25
LjL!botabuse11:25
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:25
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Absolute0anyone knows how to turn off all files and enable just one in "rtorrent" instead of doing one at a time for hours?11:26
Absolute0:)11:26
Creetureleladia: It's absolutely possible. -E: "egrep is the same as grep -E"11:26
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Creetureleladia: Do you know regular expressions?11:26
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b_wolf_007who can help me please11:27
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leladia Creeture: not too well11:27
erUSUL!ask | b_wolf_00711:27
ubotub_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:27
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leladiaCreeture: i just starting using unix11:27
Creetureleladia: What *EXACTLY* do you want to do?11:27
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Seveasb_wolf_007, nobody unless you ask an actual question :)11:27
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b_wolf_007no root file is defined11:27
Davy_Joneswhat's the name of the program that launches when you connect a digital camera?11:27
chris__im having visualization troubles and ide like to increase my resolution i cannot follow this channel so if u can help me please pm me11:27
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b_wolf_007erUSUL11:27
La_PaRCaIs there a page in the wiki that documents how specs should be developed and submitted?11:27
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soundrayDavy_Jones: f-spot11:28
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b_wolf_007can i mount ubuntu 7.10 in fat 3211:28
jrib!fixres >  (read the private message from ubotu)11:28
Seveasb_wolf_007, no11:28
jrib!fixres > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)11:28
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Davy_Jonessoundray: doesn't seem like it..11:28
erUSULb_wolf_007: do you mean install using fat32 filesystem?11:28
b_wolf_007erUSUL yes11:28
Seveasb_wolf_007, you need to create separate partitions for Ubuntu. if you don't know what you're doing: use the 'guided partition, resize partitions and use free space' option in the installer11:28
Lhademmor!exaile11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:29
Lhademmor!music11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:29
soundrayDavy_Jones: configure via System-Preferences-Removable drives and media11:29
erUSULb_wolf_007: or you are asking if you can access fat32 partitions from ubuntu 7.04?11:29
Seveasb_wolf_007, and Ubuntu win't install on fat3211:29
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Lhademmor!audioplayers11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audioplayers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:29
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chris__this is my first couple of hours on here im not familiar with the shell11:29
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leladiaCreeture: grep -v 'sleep wake' file1 (i want it to recognize sleep and wake as two separate strings)11:29
Ginhi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?11:30
fliegenderfroschDavy_Jones: is it gthump that you're looking for?11:30
jribDavy_Jones: check system -> prefs -> removable drives and media11:30
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Davy_Jonessoundray: that was helpful.. thanks11:30
Creetureleladia: grep -v -e"sleep" -e"wake" file111:30
b_wolf_007i created 3partitions11:30
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Lhademmorsry11:30
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dstadulisanyone know a quick terminal way to check what bitrate mp3's are??11:30
Creetureleladia: or grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file111:30
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Creeturemake that a little -v11:30
leladia Creeture: let me try that and see11:30
soundraydstadulis: try 'file file.mp3'11:30
erUSULdstadulis: file file.mp311:30
b_wolf_007I want to mount Ubuntu in fat 32, that can access and from windows11:30
Seveasb_wolf_007, impossible.11:31
Seveasb_wolf_007, use ext3 and install the ext2 filesystem driver for windows11:31
soundrayb_wolf_007: stick with ext3. You can install ext2fsd in Windows to access ubuntu partitions.11:31
b_wolf_007can I let an extra partition to save data from ubuntu that can access from window11:31
b_wolf_007Seveas, thanks11:31
jrib!ext3 > b_wolf_007 (read the private message from ubotu)11:31
Seveasb_wolf_007, sure, that's also an option11:31
Ginhi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?11:32
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erUSULb_wolf_007: you can access ntfs part from linux (even read/writte with ntfs-3g)11:32
soundrayb_wolf_007: yes, you can have a dedicated shared storage partition. I still suggest you make it ext3, because it is a much better filesystem.11:32
b_wolf_007ok thanks11:32
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b_wolf_007I will try with ext311:32
LhademmorLjL, Seveas, can someone teach ubotu that exaile is part of !players11:32
b_wolf_007and install those drivers11:32
soundray!sound > Gin, please read the private message from ubotu11:32
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dstaduliserUSUL: No luck o@#$%&*.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding11:32
erUSULb_wolf_007: also as Seveas pointed out there is a ext2 driver for windows. So copying files around shouldn't be a problem11:33
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CreetureHey, somebody smack the core developers for me. apti<tab> used to only complete to aptitude. Who introduced aptitude-create-state-bundle and aptitude-run-state-bundle to screw that up for me?11:33
alenapls Who know when stopped support for ubuntu 6.1011:33
leladiaCreeture:  grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file1 (i am told illegal use of --E)11:33
Seveasalena, it will stop in april 200811:33
soundraydstadulis: install mp3info11:33
flushanyone ever got the trick to read magnetic stripe through the mic input of the sound card to work ?11:33
Creetureleladia: it's -v not -V11:33
LjLLhademmor: done11:33
dstadulissoundray: thanks11:33
leladiaCreeture: i used -v11:33
LhademmorLjL, thanks11:33
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Lhademmor!exaile11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:33
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LhademmorLjL, ? :P11:34
LjLLhademmor: it's in !players.11:34
Lhademmord'oh11:34
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Lhademmor!players11:34
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs11:34
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alenaSeveas thx, i must find any distribution11:34
LjLwe don't generally have factoids for *single* packages, unless there are special instructions needed for them.11:34
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Creetureleladia: It'll work, I promise.11:34
LjL!info exaile | Lhademmor, for information on a single package11:34
ubotulhademmor, for information on a single package: exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB11:34
LhademmorLjL, then exaile <alias> players ?11:35
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nomin!alternate11:35
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal11:35
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leladia Creeture: am sure u didn't get my last msg, what i mean is that i did not use -V i used -v and it gave me that message11:35
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LjLLhademmor: i've done that now, but i'm not sure it's really useless to just get a list of players when one types !exaile11:35
LjLs/useless/useful/11:36
Seveasleladia, grep -v 'sleep\|wake' bla.log11:36
LhademmorLjL, yah, maybe you're right11:36
Lhademmor!rhythmbox11:36
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs11:36
Lhademmorsee?11:36
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LjLLhademmor: yeah, i'm still not sure it's useful though. it won't hurt either i suppose.11:36
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jodih2hi guys11:37
BaumerDoes anyone have Wireless working on ubuntu with the Broadcom 1390 chipset?11:37
leladiaSeveas: let me also try that and see11:37
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peter_can someone guide me aas to how to use freepops with thunderbird?....i'd like to retrieve my mail from hotmail11:37
Baumerohhh just found a faq on it11:37
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Baumerhope it works11:37
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jodih2just installed ubuntu  for the first time11:38
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jodih2and have a stupid question11:38
soundrayjodih2: congrats11:38
__mikem!ask11:38
Creeturepeter_: I don't know if it still exists, but there used to be a "gotmail" that did that very well.11:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:38
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soundrayjodih2: on installing, not on the stupid question.11:38
Seveassoundray, heh ;)11:38
peter_i have got mail but i have problems getting it to install11:38
jtkieferwhat's the command to create a link in the console to an application, for example so I can type in BitchX and have it open /usr/bin/bitchx11:38
Creeturepeter_: What problems?11:38
jodih2i used vi to edit the ip address and i dont know how to save the changes11:38
peter_it tries to remove a bunch of stuff on installation11:39
dstadulissoundray: Got it working so I can get the info I need, thanks veyr much11:39
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peter_then it just fails11:39
soundraydstadulis: well done11:39
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usr13jodih2, :wq11:39
__mikemI didn't know you can use vi to edit an ip address11:39
Seveasjodih2, hit ESC and then ZZ11:39
jodih2thanks11:39
Creeturejtkiefer: man bash, look at aliases. Something like alias BitchX='/usr/bin/bitchx' will work.11:39
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kitche__mikem: most likely he editted the interface file :)11:40
jurohi, I am running a 2.6.15-23-server kernel (Dapper) on a server I am administrating. Now I need to upgrade to a 2.6.20 (at least) - how do I go about this?11:40
jtkieferCreeture, ok, thanks11:40
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jodih2edited the interface file as it needed a static11:40
soundraykitche: or /etc/hosts ?11:40
Seveasjuro, you upgrade to feisty or gutsy11:40
Creeturepeter_: Is your system up-to-date with packages? I just did an aptitude install gotmail and it installed.11:40
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peter_yea as far as i can tell11:40
peter_it begins the install then tells me it cant remove a certain file11:41
soundraySeveas: via edgy, you might add...11:41
Creeturepeter_: If you do aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade && aptitude -f install it's all clean?11:41
jodih2thanks u guys are a great help to a newcomer11:41
juroseveas, this is a production machine running as a file and a imap server. it is located in Austria, I am in Cape Town - I really don't think I should upgrade that much ....11:41
erUSULjuro: easiest way? get the linux-image deb of feisty for your hardware (server version 64 bits whatever) and install it on dapper.11:41
Creeturejuro: You're not chicken are you? ;)11:41
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Seveasjuro, then you need to find a 2.6.20 kernel that works on dapper. You might have luck with the kernel packages from feisty but I very much doubt it11:41
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jurocreeture, :)11:42
juroseveas, so there is no *easy* way?11:42
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leladiaSeveas: grep -v 'sleep\|wake' bla.log (i tried it but it is not also filtering out wake. it filters sleep)11:42
soundrayjuro: of all procedures available to you, upgrading is probably the best-tested.11:42
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peter_i ran the command but i'm not too sure what i'm looking at11:43
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jtkieferCreeture, works like a charm, thanks11:43
soundraypeter_: are you trying to install an Ubuntu package, or third-party software?11:43
armandoubuntu espao11:44
erUSUL!es | armando11:44
ubotuarmando: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:44
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jurosoundray, I am trying to write to an external ntfs harddrive (= backup) and installed ntfs-3g, that tells me that I have a "deficient kernel version", therefore I should upgrade to "2.6.20" ....11:44
peter_i'm trying to install gotmail.....or make freepops work with thuunderbird11:44
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CreetureJtkiefer: Put the alias command in your .bashrc or create a .bash_aliases and uncomment that in your .bashrc to make it persist.11:45
erUSULjuro: backing up to a ntfs drive does not sound to me ike a good idea but maybe i'm biased ;)11:45
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juroerUSUL, as good as any other backup to an external harddrive.11:45
soundrayerUSUL: should be okay, backing up to a tar file or so11:45
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pgavinanyone have any idea why I don't have any menus in ubuntustudio?11:45
juroerSUL, and the backup should be readable from a standard windows machine ...11:45
JtkieferCreeture, would .bashrc be in my home directory?11:46
soundrayjuro: fat32...11:46
SeveasJtkiefer, yes11:46
CreetureJtkiefer: Yep.11:46
pgavinI mean, my application menu is empty :/11:46
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Jtkieferwhat everyone says is true, ubuntu is fun and is very powerful but it's a pain in the ass to learn11:46
jurosoundray, I tried that -> it cannot keep the access rights on file level11:46
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soundrayJtkiefer: you can extend that statement to computers in general.11:46
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soundrayjuro: avoid that pitfall by backing up to a tarfile or three11:47
erUSULjuro: that's what i was worried about... the idea of a windows OS being in charge of my backup XD11:47
Jtkiefersoundray, oops, I didn't mean Ubuntu I meant *nix, ubuntu is actually easier than most *nix11:47
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jurosoundray, not necessary. the learning curve with a windows machine is way shorter than linux11:47
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juroerUSUL, not in charge. only readable by it.11:47
CreetureJtkiefer: You think Ubuntu is a pain in the ass? You should try one of the unfriendly distributions. Try learning Solaris or AIX or try starting an install of Slackware from 1993.11:47
soundrayjuro: not if you start from scratch, ie. a newbie with no computer exposure at all.11:48
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AucklaJtkiefer, Its not so bad.11:48
Jtkiefersoundray, and to a certain extent your right but macs for example are very new user friendly (waits for the boo's and hisses to subside) so to a certain extent is windows if you don't try anything crazy11:48
AucklaCreeture, Absolutely!11:48
angasulewhat exactly is the update policy for programs in a stable ubuntu branch? for example, a program has a bug that causes a crash and has been fixed upstream, any chance we'll benefit from it or we have to wait till gutsy?11:48
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JtkieferCreeture, oh I've tried freebsd, that was a pain11:48
jurosoundray, even then.11:48
alcaponageCan anyone help me with my compiz fusion?11:48
Jtkiefercreeture, I know there's worse too, I'm just not about to try them11:48
peter_does anyone use gotmail or freepops?11:48
CreetureJtkiefer: Yep. There's some real UNIX for you. No pretty buttons, nobody to hold your hand.11:48
soundrayJtkiefer: OS 9 was newbie friendly. Mac OS X is besotten with idiosyncracies11:48
AucklaJtkiefer, FreeBSD is my OS of choice. :) At least for server side aplicatoins and routers. :)11:48
Creeturepeter_: Did you get gotmail to install?11:48
peter_nope11:49
soundrayjuro: not in my experience.11:49
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peter_i got freepops to install though11:49
Creeturepeter_: What's your exact error?11:49
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peter_one sec11:49
erUSULjuro: i'm only taking the oportunity to maock up windows a little do not take me very seriusly ;). As soundray says just backup to .tar* files or cpio archives to preserve permisions etc11:49
soundrayjuro: I got my technophobe dad to reacquaint himself with computers via Ubuntu, when he had given up on Windows.11:49
DM|Can everyone look at this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39407/ , maybe someone knows the solution11:49
jurosoundray, I am talking about a user (like a grand mother that wants to use the internet)11:49
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Jtkieferone word, OS/211:49
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peter_error ...cannot install libnet-perl11:50
jurosoundray, and he had (and wanted) to learn a lot from scratch - not many users want that11:50
soundrayjuro: I am talking about someone who needs to learn even the most basic metaphors (Desktop? What? A vertical desktop?)11:50
Creeturepeter_: What's the reason?11:50
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riddleboxany idea how to fix an error from evolution saying summary and folder mismatch even after sync?11:51
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usr13peter_, sudo apt-get install -f libnet-perl11:51
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keirhello, i was wondering how to run  a program automatically after logging in with GDM to openbox11:51
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mcphail211:51
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soundrayjuro: no, he didn't want anything at all, except be able to read Wikipedia and write letters. It's like I managed to tear a tiny hole in a big curtain to make him peep through.11:51
peter_ok but when i try to install that file it tries to remove a bunch of other apps11:51
usr13apt-get -f install libnet-perl11:51
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mtx1anyone know what would cause terminal to hang up when i open it the window opens but it doesnt give me a $ for about 2-3 minutes its like its frozen. i just restored from a backup and restarted and its doing that now?? i have tried to reinstall it but did not fix the problem11:52
Creeturepeter_: What does it try to uninstall? Something on your machine is broken.11:52
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jurosoundray, given. then again, not everyone has an experienced linux user as a son ... to guide them through the learning process.11:52
kitchejuro: same can be said for windows :)11:53
Aucklajuro, Ubuntu to me is probably the easiest flavor of linux to get somebody into. ":)11:53
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soundrayjuro: I didn't guide him at all. I installed it with autologin and left it up to him.11:53
AucklaI started with SlakWare 4.0 When I was in like the 6th grade. :P11:53
soundrayjuro: he does ring me or my brother occasionally when he gets stuck.11:53
SeveasUbuntu is way easier to learn than windows. Most people forget they actually have years of windows experience before they say Ubuntu is hard...11:53
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soundrayjuro: fortunately, we can ssh in and have a look around...11:53
jurotrue, but there are more windows users than linux users. and yes, ubuntu goes a long way (I had to give it up though, as a lot of necessary programs don't work on Ubuntu - yet)11:54
peter_when i run apt-get -f install libnet-perl it says that i have a number of unmet dependencies11:54
mtx1i wish i would have started linux about 10 years ago when i first got into computers...instead i WASTED all my time with winblows11:54
soundraySeveas: well spoken11:54
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usr13Windows is harder than Linux.11:54
Creeturepeter_: Are you sure it's not trying to install them instead of uninstall?11:54
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mtx1juro: use virtual box for you winblows stuff11:54
SpiffyBalakhey, does anyone know how to stop xine from autoplaying inserted CDs? I'm in Xfce.11:54
SpiderPigusr13 windows and linux are two different things11:54
soundrayjuro: it's a different world. I can't switch back to Windows now, because a lot of "necessary" programs aren't available there or cost money.11:55
AucklaBlah get yourself a cheap nother computer. And you can put any flavor of *nix on it. And play with it till you break it, then play with it again.11:55
usr13SpiderPig, How so?11:55
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SpiderPigwindows has its charm in that its a gigantic nsa backdoor11:55
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SeveasSpiderPig, :)11:55
pmo_linux been mostly a developper toy from my point of view, i don't know if it will ever change, but this has lasted long11:55
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SpiderPig;)11:55
usr13Windows and Linux (as we refer to them are computer operating systems.11:55
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juromtx1, that is hard when you are doing extensive photo retouching with photoshop (and no, gimp is not an alternative) or Lightroom11:55
peter_well in synaptic it says packages to be removed ....and alltray is one of them .,...which is installed annd works fine11:55
josiahk9copy isnt copying this movie for some reason. It gets stuck on authorizing. Is there another application I can use?11:55
SeveasSpiderPig, I'm very afraid that that actually may be true :/11:55
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SpiderPigusr13 i reffere to windows as toilet paper sir. thank you very much.11:55
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Seveasanyway, let's get back to ubuntu support instead of ubuntu-vs-windows discussions11:56
SpiderPigseveas it is true. the same is true with lotus and google products. these firms know so much about private people you cannot believe it.11:56
mtx1ahh i c yea if you use photoshop stay away from the virutal box =)11:56
Seveasbefore some people get religious about it11:56
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soundrayI like windows. My house would be darker without them. -- How did we manage to go so far offtopic...11:56
Aucklasoundray, ROFL.11:56
usr13SpiderPig, haha... I like the comparison but that is a bit harsh.11:56
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juroseveas, true - not supporting w-vs-l, just writing out of personal expreience11:57
SpiderPigill end there. i told what i know. think whatever you wish11:57
usr13But either way you slice it, Linux is easier.  It's easier to install, easier to use, easier to maintain.11:57
DM|Can everyone look at this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39407/ , maybe someone knows the solution11:57
josiahwould DVD::Rip be what I am looking for?11:57
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SpiderPigusr13 linux is open and free. perfect for the future.11:57
Creeturepeter_: What're you running? Feisty?11:57
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peter_yup11:57
SlimeyPetejosiah: it'll rip a DVD to an AVI11:57
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peter_it tries to remove packages like acidrip and alien11:58
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soundrayjosiah: k9copy is among the best you will get. If it gets stuck, the copy protection works.11:58
usr13The windows user has to deal with anti-virus software and anti-spiware and lots of other issues that Linux users don't have to bother with.  Linux is a lot easier.11:58
SeveasDM|, looks like you're missing some libraries... is your system up-to-date and is ubuntu-desktop installed?11:58
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josiahSlimeyPete: I want to make it into an iso so that it get dvdquality and can burn onto a dvd-r11:58
Seveas!offtopic | usr1311:58
ubotuusr13: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:58
pmo_but i don't much about ubuntu.. i had some experiences with debian, suse, slackware, yygdrasil.. never tried gentoo.. while i tend to be attracted by bsd those days.. i like the makefile spirit11:58
SlimeyPetejosiah: I don't think dvd::rip does that11:58
SpiderPigusr13 but in linux you have to deal with firewalls and rootkits11:58
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SlimeyPeteit didn't last time I used it, but that was a couple of years ago11:58
josiahSlimeyPete: ok thank you.11:58
SpiderPigusr13 its not like you dont need to use your brain and take protection with linux11:59
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reconHow do you type ASCII character SOH? (octal 001, hex 0x1)11:59
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Sorcererbobone thing I'm concerned about is that as linux becomes more popular, it will begin to suffer from small poppy syndrome, and viruses etc will start to target it11:59
josiahsoundray: grrr11:59
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DM|seveas yep all up to date11:59
ericDOH!!! I accidentally booted up ubuntu with vmplayer whilst having the same ubuntu booted as the host -.-11:59
DM|seveas also have ubuntu-desktop installed11:59
SpiderPigusr13 install 'rkhunter' rootkithunter very good software.11:59
ericthat screwed everything up =\11:59
SeveasDM|, could you pastebin your sources.list?11:59
[DMC] how do I tell the system to check the group file? I added myself to a group but it is not seeing it.11:59
Seveaseric, heh, that sounds like a bad idea :)11:59
usr13Sorcererbob, How do you figure?11:59
jrib[DMC] : log in again12:00
DM|seveas its gutsy, but no one in ubuntu+1 is having the same problem, nor is there anything online.12:00
DM|seveas one sec12:00
DM|!pastebin12:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:00
[DMC] I have to restart X just to do this?12:00
Seveasusr13, linux isn't inherently immune against attacks. Rootkits and privilige escalation bugs still exist...12:00
ericSeveas, after being through the ubuntu system recovery thing twice... finding things strangely broken (some file corruption at that)12:00
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soundray[DMC] : it works after the next login. If you can't log out, do a 'ssh localhost'12:00
Ginhi12:00
ericSeveas, I am really worried that I did permanent damage12:00
Sorcererbobusr13: the only reason microsoft operating systems are targetted are because they're popular. If they weren't, then there would be no point targeting them. So if Linux gets more popular than MS, it seems likely that viruses and w hatnot should start targetting linux12:00
SpiderPigseveas as i said12:00
Ginhow do you reload the sound driver?12:00
DM|seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39410/12:00
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SpiffyBalakvirus immunity could attract lots of the paranoid technophobes12:00
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usr13Anyway, as the bot said, this philosophy discussion is OT12:00
SpiderPigseveas hello can you see me or am i banned?12:00
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SeveasSpiderPig, I can see you but I'm helping people...12:01
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x-fakhi12:01
SpiderPigseveas oh :)12:01
Shapeshifterofftopic: Does anyone know what tone that is at the beginning of crank? A ringtone or something ^^12:01
SpiderPigseveas install rkhunter very good for removal of rootkits12:01
x-fakhow do i check my ubuntu version, uname -a dont tell me12:01
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SpiderPigi installed it today12:01
timstokmanhi, i have no /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf in my installation of gutsy gibbon beta installation, has it changed location?12:01
jrib!offtopic | Shapeshifter12:01
ubotuShapeshifter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:01
Seveasx-fak, lsb_release -a12:01
Shapeshifterk thx12:01
VWJ1bnR1What happened to the GDM?  When I installed KDE, KDM is lost!12:01
kitcheSpiderPig: it's also good for false postives sometimes also12:01
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x-fakty Seveas12:01
VWJ1bnR1Sorry... GDM is lost!12:02
SpiderPigkitche most bugs ahve been fixed though, no?12:02
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kitcheVWJ1bnR1: kdm takes over when you install kde12:02
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soundrayVWJ1bnR1: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' to change back12:02
Gin!sound12:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:02
VWJ1bnR1soundray: That didn't work.12:02
soundrayVWJ1bnR1: can you elaborate12:02
x-faki have dapper 6.06 is it worthy to install last version ?12:02
Creeturepeter_: Where are you now? Anything installed yet?12:02
usr13x-fak, Yes12:03
Creeturex-fak: What do you use it for?12:03
ericSeveas, the damage was all the drivers messing up, which was corrected via the system recovery, and many gnome config files going awry12:03
VWJ1bnR1Well, I got the error message saying:12:03
VWJ1bnR1invoce-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.12:03
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Seveaseric, a good idea is to rinstall all packages, handy oneliner: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall12:03
VWJ1bnR1soundray: That wouldn't be so bad, except that I can't login or logout to the GUI login manager.12:03
usr13x-fak, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html12:03
ericSeveas, I made sure to comment out the 10 second timelimit selection in grub -.-12:03
peter_nope i have the part about it wanting to remove a bunch of packages open.....thats where i'm stuck right now12:03
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ericSeveas, won't that take a long time? :o12:04
Gin sudo rmmod snd_ca010612:04
GinERROR: Module snd_ca0106 is in use12:04
soundrayVWJ1bnR1: where are you now -- logged in on a virtual console?12:04
x-fakCreeture> i use it as desktop12:04
Seveaseric, it will12:04

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