[12:04] <rdw200169> andy_33: you can use nmap
[12:04] <andy_33> andy_33: yeah, but I dont know the command :/
[12:04] <siloko> erisco: not off the top of my head - ubuntuforums would be a good place to start
[12:04] <genii> soothsayer: Mailutils provides a commandline mail function so you can do: mail -s "subject" someone@somewhere <text here>
[12:04] <siloko> erisco: it's a very common thing to do
[12:05] <rdw200169> andy_33: use something like nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24
[12:05] <erisco> siloko, I hear it is a good setup. Is it something I have to worry about before or after I make all the necessary partitions?
[12:05] <soothsayer> genii: Thanks.
[12:05] <siloko> erisco: if you do it from sys install most installers even let you do as part of the preinstal partitioning
[12:05] <genii> soothsayer: np
[12:05] <erisco> siloko, I will just be using parted
[12:05] <siloko> erisco:  on an existing install?
[12:05] <rdw200169> andy_33, it'll find hosts, even behind personal-firewalls...
[12:06] <shiznit> parted works great off the livecd
[12:06] <erisco> siloko, nope. Everything is being hosed and reloaded
[12:06] <shiznit> much better than the installed
[12:06] <shiznit> installer
[12:06] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Failed to find device eth1 which was referenced in /proc/net/route
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: then it's very straight forward
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: create the partiton during the install
[12:06] <andy_33> rdw200169:  it scanned 256 ip addresses and 0 hosts came up:\
[12:06] <rdw200169> andy_33, of course, use your subnet
[12:06] <Boumboum5> erisco: Hm. if the purpose is simply to presever all the files in /home, what I would do is create a new partition for it, the copy all the files in /home to the new partition. Then you can wipe the old one and upgrade ubuntu over it.  Do you want more details on how to do that?
[12:06] <GNine> to say ubuntu is great but it has a lot of bugs .. is an oxymoron..  i say the most probable cause of your issues is :  human error
[12:06] <erisco> siloko, yes... and at which stage do I setup /home to be on the other partition?
[12:06] <siloko> erisco: and simply tell the installer you want that partition to be your home dir
[12:07] <godzirra> Eagleray: any ideas what to do now?
[12:07] <Thegeektechnique> question... Do you think adobe illustrator cs2 will work with the new version of WINE?
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  subnet, what? :x
[12:07] <Eagleray> godzirra: back, sorry - had a phonecall
[12:07] <rdw200169> andy_33, what's your ip and subnet?
[12:07] <erisco> siloko, you sure it prompts me for that?
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  my ip is 10.0.0.4
[12:07] <Eagleray> godzirra: hold up while I scroll back and read your comments
[12:07] <GNine> check thyself before you wreck thyself
[12:07] <andy_33> rdw200169:  I don't know what subnet is tho
[12:07] <rdw200169> andy_33, ok, try nmap -sP 10.0.0.0/24
[12:07] <siloko> erisco: if you choose custom partitioning you can do what you like
[12:07] <godzirra> Eagleray: sure thing.  (Basiclaly it can't build the nvidia module from the shell script because it s unable to load nvidia.ko)
[12:08] <siloko> erisco: if you let the installer do it for you - then you'll get it all on one partition ;)
[12:08] <rdw200169> andy_33: the /24 = 255.255.255.0
[12:08] <andy_33> rdw200169:  ah, thats the ip range?
[12:08] <purity> semidios - so if you type in ls -al /path_to_share what information do you get for the file you have tried to copy over?
[12:08] <erisco> siloko, hmm alright I will take a look. lets say that /home was not setup properly and was put on the same partition as /
[12:08] <Boumboum5> erisco: once the new partition is created and mounted, you can dreate the /home directory by typine /mkdir home    it's not actually /home but a duplicate in another directory. Would that soit your needs? You can copy back after the install.
[12:08] <erisco> siloko, will I be able to correct it afterwards?
[12:08] <siloko> erisco: yes
[12:08] <rdw200169> andy_33, i don't know, i'm guessing, but it will work anyway, and just have errors to the network ip's that are unroutable
[12:08] <andy_33> rdw200169:  K, is it any way I can resolve the ip's into the host name?
[12:09] <Boumboum5> the installer does, if you select "manual partitioning"
[12:09] <erisco> siloko, okay I will give it a whirl. thanks
[12:09] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:09] <rdw200169> andy_33, not really, unless there's a dns server somewhere tracking them
[12:09] <erisco> Boumboum5, thanks.
[12:09] <siloko> erisco: good luck :)
[12:09] <Eagleray> godzirra: it _should_ be recompiling that on its own
[12:09] <godzirra> GNine: Its a spell you cast in wizardry to heal your characters.
[12:09] <bascule> GNine: 2 os di 2 os .. maybe :)
[12:09] <godzirra> Eagleray: its not  :)
[12:09] <rdw200169> andy_33, which i doubt seriously on a local network...
[12:09] <Boumboum5> good luck erisco :)
[12:09] <soothsayer> genii: Do you know, is there an alternative to the 'mailutils' package that provides a command for sending mail and has fewer dependencies (13.4MB to install mailutils)
[12:10] <andy_33> rdw200169:  truer
[12:10] <Eagleray> godzirra: can you give me a step-by-step of what you're doing, where it fails, and with what error?
[12:10] <Semidios> purity, -rwxrwxrwx 1 root users    0  2007-10-01  17:08
[12:10] <alcaponage> I have a question
[12:10] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:10] <Eagleray> rdw200169: yup
[12:10] <alcaponage> How do I get the menu down on the bottom?
[12:10] <genii> soothsayer: Well, it also installs other things, the BSD mail handling utilities.
[12:10] <Boumboum5> soothsayer: this probably isn't what you are looking for, but I use webmail myself---browser-based mail.....hotmail, yahoo, and google all provide them.
[12:10] <alcaponage> Like the firefox
[12:10] <oxeimon> rdw200169: so yeah, that mathworks site didn't help, but thank you so much for all your help
[12:11] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:11] <alcaponage> How do I make it so it looks like the mac osx?
[12:11] <bascule> Woet: look into fish
[12:11] <GNine> i know semi = 18 wheeler = tractor truck , dios : does not compute
[12:11] <genii> soothsayer: If you need command-line mail functions however, you need the mailutils package
[12:11] <rdw200169> Eagleray, i find that Ubuntu has a lot fewer than others...
[12:11] <soothsayer> Boumboum5: No it isn't what I'm looking for.
[12:11] <purity> semidios - what happens if you put a file in the share from the linux box and copy it over to the mac, from the mac
[12:11] <oxeimon> rdw200169: I think I'm going to take a break now, and probably come back to this some other time.
[12:11] <godzirra> sh Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run, accept license agreement, Tell it to go ahead even though there's a driver on the system (it detects the newer version), tell it I dont want to check online for one, hit ok when it doesnt find a precompiled kernel interface, (then it starts trying to build and fails)
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: It has tons less than many do
[12:11] <siloko> alcaponage: rightclick the panel - properties - orientation - choose bottom
[12:11] <Malberto> Woet: don't make flood please !
[12:11] <soothsayer> genii: Okay, thanks. That was my question.
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: but there are still a lot there
[12:11] <Eagleray> rdw200169: part of that's due to it being based on debian unstable
[12:11] <lucas_> hi. i updated to xorg 7.3 and now the "enie" key doesn't work. it is a spanish key
[12:11] <rdw200169> Eagleray, and ubuntu has just about the strongest user-base...
[12:12] <bascule> lucas_: get a grip
[12:12] <Eagleray> rdw200169: and part of that's the inclusion of bleeding edge software without a long testing period
[12:12] <genii> soothsayer: np
[12:12] <lucas_> bascule: what?
[12:12] <Eagleray> rdw200169: yup, by far the largest desktop userbase
[12:12] <tdizzy> hello
[12:12] <bascule> !es | lucas_
[12:12] <ubotu> lucas_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:12] <erisco> one more question :P
[12:12] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem?
[12:12] <rdw200169> Eagleray, and that's what's gonna cause both problems and solutions...
[12:12] <Boumboum5> alcaponage: I found a trick for that.....http://image.google.com   do an image search... term "ubuntu osx theme OR themes"....it will show a bunch of images of desktops that look like OSX and you can pick the one you like... chances are, it's on a website that lists what theme that is and how to get it.
[12:12] <EricT> hi all. I just installed Ubuntu on my new shiny poweredge 2950 server - it recognizes the ethernet cards fine, but now i need assistance configuring them. i know all the proper IP's and stuff. can someone assist me?
[12:12] <erisco> say I install a package that is 2GB. Is this space taken from / or /home?
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: indeed...
[12:13] <erisco> where is the bulk of the package installed to?
[12:13] <soothsayer> genii: On second thought, surely there must be an alternative? mailutils is pulling in guile and mysql.
[12:13] <rdw200169> Eagleray, but at least the ubuntuforums are quick to find an answer to obscure things...
[12:13] <siloko> erisco: /
[12:13] <lucas_> bascule: im not looking for help in spanish. i just want to know how to change my keyboard layout
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: Yep. #ubuntu's also pretty good most of the time
[12:13] <erisco> siloko, hmm. A ubuntu install is how many gigs? 2-3?
[12:13] <alcaponage> siloko: How do i make it look like the picture in herehttp://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:13] <bascule> lucas_: 'enie' key 'any' key, try somewhere more clueless
[12:13] <godzirra> erisco: depends what you install.
[12:13] <heguru> EricT: you installed ubuntu-server or ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:13] <Boumboum5> soothsayer: there are a number of mail programs for linux. I do not know enough to compare or know which suits your needs best. There's dozens of them, I know that.
[12:13] <D4N`> hi
[12:13] <Eagleray> rdw200169: it's why I tend to hang out here sometimes rather than #debian, #debian is a lot slower
[12:13] <godzirra> erisco: you  can probably get one under 500 megs if you tried.  you just woudlnt have x :)
[12:13] <carlosV2> hi
[12:14] <siloko> erisco: some people create a partition for /usr/local which holds a lot of use application data - but most sys packages go off root
[12:14] <rdw200169> oxeimon: you did add your license information to the license file, right?
[12:14] <andy_33> rdw200169:  under 10.0.0.7 it says MAC Address: xx.x.x.x.x.x..x.x  (NextGenTel Holding ASA)
[12:14] <lucas_> bascule: asshole
[12:14] <EricT> heguru, ubuntu-server amd64
[12:14] <Semidios> purity, it opens on the mac just fine.  copys over great.
[12:14] <godzirra> well crap.
[12:14] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Can i say for sure that it's not a windows computer?
[12:14] <godzirra> My X is now broken and I cant fix it this time.
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: will the IP's be static or dhcp?
[12:14] <EricT> static
[12:14] <andy_33> andy_33:  i'm pretty confused
[12:14] <soothsayer> Boumboum5: My need is to send mail from a script.
[12:14] <tdizzy> i accidentally deleted a partition (my ubuntu one) and then was able to restore it using TestDisk. all my files are back but it wont load to the boot list and just boots to windows. how to i restore my ability to boot into ubuntu?
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: type sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:14] <erisco> godzirra, siloko, I was planning on my / partition to be 10GB... perhaps I want to allow 20GB or so in the event that I have large apps to install
[12:14] <EricT> i'v been in there
[12:14] <GNine> minimum is 5gig.. but you'll endup at 12-15 gigs anyways (for an average desktop system) , erisco
[12:14] <rdw200169> andy_33, don't know
[12:14] <heguru> EricT: you have to put the configuration in there
[12:15] <carlosV2> i'm doing a script and i need to know if user execute it with 'sudo ./script' or only with './script' (or with './script' in root acount). is it posible?
[12:15] <EricT> right. i *think* i did it right
[12:15] <darkchr0n0s> !grub
[12:15] <siloko> erisco: my root is about a gig, my /usr is about 2.75 gigs and my /home is 1.3 pretty tidy really
[12:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:15] <godzirra> erisco: that works.  I've got X installed and I've got 3.4 gigs used currently.
[12:15] <rdw200169> andy_33, the mac will only tell you who manufactured the NIC
[12:15] <EricT> but lest, it doesn't work
[12:15] <darkchr0n0s> !grub | tdizzy
[12:15] <daylighter> carlosV2: it will tell you if you need root privs or not
[12:15] <ubotu> tdizzy: please see above
[12:15] <EricT> i also tried restarting networking
[12:15] <andy_33> rdw200169:  NIC being?
[12:15] <tdizzy> thank you
[12:15] <erisco> godzirra, the 10gb or the 20?
[12:15] <Boumboum5> erisco: umm...that's kinda hard to answer....it's like saying "wow, how'd they fit all those people into that little television box?"....oh..you mean what directory..../home/yourname  whatever yourname is on your install.
[12:15] <heguru> EricT: paste the contents of your interfaces file to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:15] <rdw200169> andy_33, network interface card
[12:15] <godzirra> erisco: either one.  as I said, I'm only using 3.4gigs.
[12:15] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert jfs to ext3
[12:16] <D4N`> interest
[12:16] <carlosV2> daylighter, the script is done by me
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  thanks :)
[12:16] <rdw200169> andy_33, nmap can do a lot more than just scan IP ranges, but it's a difficult tool to use,
[12:16] <X3n> hi there, im just wondering, sometimes when i run rythmbox it doesnt play any sound, why is this?
[12:16] <erisco> siloko, are things in /usr separate from ubuntu? Could I upgrade / to 7.10 when it comes out and everything in /usr still is compatible?
[12:16] <tomw> good evening. Anyone know what has happened to the automatix website?
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, I'm trying to locate a windows computer on my network
[12:16] <carlosV2> i want to say to user if needs to execute it like su before 'sudo' comands executes
[12:16] <X3n> its pretty random, but no sound is playing now either
[12:16] <andy_33> rdw200169:  cant seem how to find it tho xD
[12:16] <LjL> tomw: we don't know and we honestly don't care
[12:16] <godzirra> Eagleray: sooo any ideas?
[12:16] <LjL> !automatix > tomw    (tomw, see the private message from Ubotu)
 what have you put in your /etc/exports file?
[12:16] <siloko> erisco: it's part of the system
[12:17] <rdw200169> andy_33, the other use, i use a lot, is the port-scanner, nmap -sS IP
[12:17] <Boumboum5> yes siloko is correct.......they go off root if they're "for everyone" and they go of /home/yourname if it's just for you (I THINK)
[12:17] <darkchr0n0s> !automatix
[12:17] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:17] <Woet> i just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??
[12:17] <erisco> siloko, so why do you have yours separated?
[12:17] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, but it's illegal doing port scans, aint it?
[12:17] <Eagleray> godzirra: can you tell me the exact stage you are failing at, and any errors?
[12:17] <darkchr0n0s> Woet : type ultraedit in console
[12:17] <shiznit> i installed automatix on my first ubuntu install and it broke upgrade
[12:17] <carlosV2> daylighter, there are some comand like 'who' that allows to do it?
[12:17] <shiznit> i wish i would have known
[12:17] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: I've been dealing with just that problem myself today.....:)  I can help...
[12:17] <X3n> why does rythmbox sometimes not play any sound when playing mp3's??
[12:17] <Eagleray> godzirra: I asked this before, but not sure if you spotted it
[12:17] <godzirra> Eagleray: It fails after it says its 100% done building.
[12:17] <atlfalcons866> how can i convert jfs to ext3
[12:17] <godzirra> Eagleray: I don't tihnk I did.
[12:18] <erisco> siloko, or do you?
[12:18] <daylighter> I am not sure carlosV2
[12:18] <godzirra> Eagleray: in the shell script.
[12:18] <tomw> Ljl: sorry for wasting your time. I'll make sure it never happens again.  Thanks for being nice about it.
[12:18] <Semidios> purity, /media/Media 192.168.1.1/24 (rw,insecure,no_root_squash,async)
[12:18] <EricT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/
[12:18] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: you probably need to repair GRUB, which is what boots ubunto.
[12:18] <carlosV2> ok daylighter, np. thank you :)
[12:18] <Eagleray> godzirra: is it trying to re-use anything in /tmp?
[12:18] <rdw200169> andy_33, not when it's MY network...
[12:18] <EricT> heguru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39311/
[12:18] <Naxa> hi
[12:18] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, that being the exception, sorry
[12:18] <godzirra> Eagleray: how would I know that? :)
[12:18] <siloko> erisco: yes i do - more for hygiene really - when i say it's part of the system it's more the application stuff
[12:18] <Boumboum5> tdizzy: the URL on how is at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntoAfterinstallingWindows
[12:18] <EricT> thats not a paste, since i can't paste from DRAC5, but thats the contents, minus the comments
[12:18] <Eagleray> godzirra: try nuking anyting that looks likely in /tmp before running the shell script
[12:18] <carlosV2> bye ;)
[12:18] <godzirra> ok.
[12:18] <genii> Bah was going to suggest Nail as a commandline alternative for mailutils but soothsayer left now
[12:19] <rdw200169> andy_33, are you trying to scan and ISP's subnet or something?
[12:19] <Eagleray> godzirra: if you're not sure, just reboot - that will nuke /tmp automatically
[12:19] <siloko> erisco: but everything remains compatable when you upgarde - don't worry
[12:19] <Naxa> How can I see my remote X from here? I've tryied ssh -X host but the problem is that X is already running.
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, well the purpose of me separating /home from / on different partitions is to preserve my own files
[12:19] <P_Kable> anybody knows why there is no longer thumbnails displayed for my *cr2 files since 2 days ???
[12:19] <andy_33> rdw200169:  I'm just trying to figure out the ip of a windows computer connected to my network
[12:19] <siloko> erisco: the fact it is on a different partition makes NO difference to a version upgrade :)
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, are you saying if I back up /usr it will preserve my applications as well or something?
[12:19] <godzirra> Eagleray: ok, let me try that and I'll try reinstalling the old vcersion.
[12:19] <godzirra> version
[12:19] <sensae> Hello
[12:19] <erisco> siloko, yeah but I like to wipe it clean and reload it rather than a dist-upgrade
[12:19] <rdw200169> andy_33, and you can't look at that computer to find out?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  my friend wont let me
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  -.-
[12:20] <EricT> heguru, just wanted to enure you saw my link?
[12:20] <siloko> erisco: well then perhaps you are bettwer off with just a / and /home partition
[12:20] <rdw200169> andy_33, how are you getting your ip address?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  through a router,
[12:20] <erisco> siloko, I am just confused as to the benefit of separating /usr from /
[12:20] <rdw200169> andy_33, from a router somewhere, but can you get access to it?
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  located at 10.0.0.1
[12:20] <matthew__> how do I open GUI applications over ssh?
[12:20] <sensae> That's great - I got fed up getting my onboard sound to work, so I threw in an old audigy 2 I had lying around, and ubuntu autodetected it
[12:20] <andy_33> rdw200169:  yeah, through telnet
[12:20] <disown> I did a manual compile and install of alsa. Now I have to redo that procedure for each kernel upgrade. Can I get the ubuntu default alsa back somehow??
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: yes i did
[12:21] <rdw200169> andy_33, what kind of router?
[12:21] <EricT> thank you.
[12:21] <Woet> i just installed ultraedit via wine (a texteditor), how do i start it now??
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: remove the dns-nameserver option
[12:21] <heguru> EricT: and try again
[12:21] <siloko> erisco: not every appi install is part of a distribution
[12:21] <EricT> ok
[12:21] <andy_33> rdw200169:  2sec
[12:21] <alcaponage> How do I make my firefox icon... etc interactive?
[12:21] <GNine> yes, siloko
[12:21] <GNine> system update/upgrade wont delete your usr account
[12:21] <alcaponage> http://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:21] <godzirra> Eagleray: Huh.  Apparently that did it.  Its still installing, but it got further than it ever has.
[12:21] <alcaponage> like in that picture
[12:21] <Woet> Does someone know a good app to program PHP with..?
[12:21] <Woet> ?
[12:21] <Naxa> I logged in to my remote computer with ssh -X, but there was already an X running... I typed xinit -- :1 and I see that a new X is started, but it's not forwareded to my screen. what shoud i do?
[12:21] <preaction> Woet, vim
[12:21] <erisco> siloko, my home is 5.6GB and my /usr is about 2.5GB
[12:21] <preaction> Woet, preferably vim version 7, it has the nice tab functions. if you want a GUI, use gvim
[12:22] <EricT> ok. it pings IP's, but not hostnames.
[12:22] <andy_33> Netopia 3351
[12:22] <rdw200169> andy_33, the router has a lease file, for all the dhcp addresses it put out, and may or may not give you access to it
[12:22] <sensae> I've loaded some mp3s into rhythmbox, and they are high kbps (320 or so). Rhythmbox shows them as being 15+ minutes long when they're only 5 minutes
[12:22] <EricT> so i need to add something to resolv.conf ;)
[12:22] <godzirra> Eagleray: restarting now to see if it works.
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, you may have a DNS related problem
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, check /etc/resolv.conf
[12:22] <alcaponage> How do I make my bottom tastbar interactive?
[12:22] <heguru> EricT: yes add the dns-server to /etc/resolve.conf
[12:22] <heguru> EricT: nameserver 72.52.220.1
[12:22] <rdw200169> EricT, like "nameserver IP"
[12:23] <rdw200169> heguru, ah, you beat me
[12:23] <EricT> yup, fixed it
[12:23] <heguru> rdw200169: :)
[12:23] <godzirra> Eagleray: that was apparently it =p
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: excellent
[12:23] <EricT> actually it already had that nameserver in there, but it didn't work. my host provided me with a different set
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: it now builds?
[12:23] <siloko> alcaponage: interactive?
[12:23] <alcaponage> siloko yes
[12:23] <alcaponage> can you go to this link?
[12:23] <rdw200169> EricT, the quickest way to troubleshoot that is by using nslookup, and checking what nameserver it says it's using
[12:23] <godzirra> Eagleray: it bult, and it stays built when I reboot.
[12:23] <alcaponage> http://lifehacker.com/software/pretty-and-productive/power-up-your-linux-desktop-with-compiz-fusion-291002.php
[12:23] <erisco> siloko, my plan is 45GB NTFS, 2GB Swap, 15GB / (ext3), and 88GB /home (ext3)
[12:23] <godzirra> lemme make sure its not tryring to use the vesa driver still first.
[12:23] <purity> semidios try the following command from your mac and try again maybe with a different mount point temporarily  mount -o -P FILESERVERIP:/SHARE /MOUNTPOINT
[12:23] <Eagleray> godzirra: yay!
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> ok quick question, how do I set it up so that someone other than root can run x
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> I'm having trouble getting it to work
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT, step 1, ping it, step 2, nslookup it
[12:24] <godzirra> Eagleray: yeah.. weird. ;)
[12:24] <sensae> Does anyone know why rhythmbox would misread the length of high-kbps songs?
[12:24] <godzirra> oh well, thanks for all your help :)
[12:24] <siloko> erisco: well you obviously have plenty of room . . .
[12:24] <erisco> siloko, indeed. 200gb drive
[12:24] <EricT> now if they provided me with 2 nameservers, i just add a new line "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[12:24] <heguru> Jtkiefer: by default evrery new user can run X
[12:24] <Eagleray> godzirra: no worries, glad your problem's sorted
[12:24] <heguru> EricT: yes
[12:24] <erisco> siloko, I just want to figure out tactical ways to divide it proportionally
[12:24] <EricT> then another line of "nameserver yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy" ?
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT, most network troubleshooting guides never mention that for some unknown reason...
[12:24] <andy_33> rdw200169:  Btw, I am allowed to scan all ip ranged within 10.0.0.0/24 right?
[12:24] <rdw200169> EricT yup
[12:24] <Jtkiefer> odd, I killed x and logged out and it gave me a user cannot run x error
[12:24] <heguru> EricT: you can also use www.opendns.com servers
[12:24] <rdw200169> andy_33, sure
[12:24] <alcaponage> siloko: All the programs are icons on the bottom and they move if you move your mouse near it
[12:25] <EricT> excellent. guess i'm doing alright then ;)
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  aight
[12:25] <rabbitnightmare> is there something as good as ksmoothdock for gnome?
[12:25] <rdw200169> EricT, or root servers
[12:25] <rdw200169> andy_33, it's like a mass ping
[12:25] <EricT> first ever server setup went smooth. just didn't know to remove that line
[12:25] <siloko> erisco: well your suggestion sounds sensible . . .
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  because, I can maybe run a nmap -P0 10.0.0.0/24
[12:25] <andy_33> rdw200169:  maybe I'll find more hosts then
[12:25] <EricT> but i know now =D
[12:25] <EricT> thanks guys
[12:25] <rabbitnightmare> if not better
[12:25] <Woet> Hello, does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk
[12:25] <siloko> erisco: although i personally would leave out the NTFS partition :)
[12:25] <erisco> siloko, you just make me question that setup when you said you have /usr separate as well. I am wondering of the benefits and advantages of it
[12:25] <Woet> I cant find "fish"
[12:26] <erisco> siloko, so would I :( if only wine was flawless
[12:26] <Auckla> Wow Azuraes is a buggy mofo. And has been forever now.
[12:26] <heguru> EricT: :) 2950 works VERY WELL with Ubuntu (except Dapper LTS which fails to boot after installation due to bad initrd :()
[12:26] <rdw200169> andy_33, can't hurt
[12:26] <siloko> erisco: use a virtual machine . . . house your vm on an ext3 partition works a treat for me
[12:26] <rabbitnightmare> Azereus works but it should be labled treat with care it is java that is buggy
[12:26] <EricT> hmm, i'm on dapper LTS
[12:26] <Woet> Does someone know a mapping tool for ssh-servers? Like making it become a harddisk (sftpdrive for windows)
[12:26] <Woet> I cant find "fish"
[12:26] <EricT> when it fails to boot on initrd, i press enter and it boots.
[12:26] <siloko> erisco: and all the tools are FOSS
[12:26] <erisco> siloko, it is actually kind of cool. The NTFS will have windows xp pro which I can dual boot into... but I also will have vmplayer to boot up windows virtually (but off of the real NTFS partition)
[12:26] <rdw200169> andy_33, me, i'll port-scan anybody, and the only problem i'll get is that some personal firewalls on windows will black-list my ip address
[12:26] <heguru> EricT: do you have RAID?
[12:27] <EricT> yes
[12:27] <EricT> RAID5
[12:27] <erisco> SiliconViper, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually
[12:27] <rdw200169> andy_33, but there's a legal cop-out, because no one can know if you did that, or some software that was running on your behalf
[12:27] <Boumboum5> Woet: when you install apps via wine, it requires a reboot to fully take effect. After a reboot, it should be in Applications/Wine/Ultraedit or similar.
[12:27] <EricT> interesting though... dell sent wrong server first without RAID and i could not get that one past initrd
[12:27] <erisco> siloko, so when I need to game I can boot into windows. When I just need to use photoshop for web development I can boot up windows virtually
[12:27] <Jtkiefer> heguru, it says creating new authorization file, then says error this user is not authorized to run x
[12:27] <siloko> erisco: ok that does sound very flexible
[12:27] <Semidios> purity, i did a mkdir /Media to use as the mount point on my Mac.  then did the command and it gives me "Mount nfs: /Media : Permission denied"       if you could /msg me the next step I would appreciate it.  I have to step away from the comp for a bit..  10min or so
[12:28] <genii> heguru: 2950 = Dell PowerEdge 2950?
[12:28] <rdw200169> andy_33, some filesharing apps in windows are notorious for port-scanning
[12:28] <EricT> this one has raid and larger hard drives, those are the only change. works great.
[12:28] <Jtkiefer> heguru, I'm going to go in and try to edit the auth file directly to see if that works
[12:28] <EricT> yes, genii
[12:28] <siloko> erisco: although i was truggling to find a use for a proper boot - but then you mentioned games :)
[12:28] <heguru> EricT: well then it must be the one without RAID that fails then :D
[12:28] <siloko> *struggling*
[12:28] <erisco> siloko, hehe :P
[12:28] <EricT> yeah, mine without raid failed horribly.
[12:28] <rdw200169> andy_33, it's a *great* way to test a firewall...
[12:28] <EricT> so i went to 6.06
[12:28] <Auckla> OMFG, in the history of that program, I have never used it and had it "NOT" Be the buggiest piece I've ever used on any operating system.
[12:28] <Auckla> Holly crap!
[12:28] <EricT> that worked fine, but i needed raid.
[12:28] <genii> EricT: I have one in front of me now LOL and 3  2450 Dell too
[12:28] <andy_33> rdw200169:  nice, thanks mate (:
[12:28] <Boumboum5> Jtkiefer: as root, use chmod (that changes the file permissions
[12:28] <erisco> siloko, until I get another gig of ram or something the virtual computer is a little sluggish. its fine for basic stuff though
[12:29] <EricT> lol nice :)
[12:29] <alecw1> I'm currently learning Spanish, and I've been looking for a great spanish learning app. Can someone suggest a program? I've tried Kverbos, I didn't like it.
[12:29] <Filthpig> hm
[12:29] <EricT> any suggestions as things to do on first boot?
[12:29] <siloko> erisco: another gig of ram - sigh - you kids!!
[12:29] <Boumboum5> sounds like Jtkiefer's install of X has been damaged or corrupted somehow. Perhaps a reinstall?
[12:29] <erisco> siloko, :P well ubuntu + windows xp = maxing out 1 gig of ram
[12:29] <EricT> so just for clarification, raid5 with 3 HDD's makes the first 2 usable, and the last one a backup, right?
[12:30] <alcaponage> How do I make my programs from the taskbar on top to the bottom?
[12:30] <alcaponage> To make it look like mac osx
[12:30] <Boumboum5> sounds very cool, erisco
[12:30] <alcaponage> where all the icons are interactive
[12:30] <Filthpig> Upgraded to gutsy now.. Gaim is discontinued, but why doesn't gutsy ship with pidgin or something like it?
[12:30] <heguru> EricT: yes
[12:30] <siloko> alcaponage: you can drag them from one to the other
[12:30] <erisco> Boumboum5, I worked hard on the idea :P well, I got plenty of help setting it up
[12:30] <EricT> thought so. :)
[12:30] <daylighter> let's say I downloaded and installed nvidia's latest drivers and I want to go back to the nvidia-glx driver, how do I remove the one I compiled myself
[12:30] <Chousuke> Filthpig: Gaim is Pidgin
[12:30] <Boumboum5> ok bye all
[12:31] <EricT> this should be fun. this is a pretty powerful server
[12:31] <alcaponage> hey siloko
[12:31] <EricT> dual quad core procs :)
[12:31] <alcaponage> have you looked at the link i gave you?
[12:31] <heguru> EricT: well the parity info is usually striped i.e. stored across all three disks
[12:31] <alcaponage> I want it to be like the video on youtube
[12:31] <siloko> alcaponage: no . . .
[12:31] <erisco> siloko, thanks for the help. I'll get partitioning now
[12:31] <alcaponage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m423g-W-iVA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker%2Ecom%2Fsoftware%2Fpretty%2Dand%2Dproductive%2Fpower%2Dup%2Dyour%2Dlinux%2Ddesktop%2Dwith%2Dcompiz%2Dfusion%2D291002%2Ephp
[12:31] <thesaint4444> hi guys, what is the safest way to resize a partition on my primary hard disk and still leave all the data in place?
[12:31] <siloko> erisco: no worries - good luck
[12:31] <Filthpig> Chousuke: yes, I know, but why doesn't ubuntu ship with it?
[12:32] <Chousuke> !info pidgin
[12:32] <heguru> Jtkiefer: did you fix your Xauthority file?
[12:32] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:32] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:32] <heguru> Jtkiefer: you should use xauth command for it
[12:32] <siloko> alcaponage: you want me to watch a video of someones desktop ???
[12:32] <ben-hail> i am from brasil
[12:32] <EricT> heguru, i'll read about it. no need for me to waste your time on basics :)
[12:32] <Chousuke> Filthpig: yes it does
[12:33] <Chousuke> Filthpig: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin
[12:33] <EricT> you helped me out a bunch. that was bugging me. it litterally took me 30 seconds to get it working in 6.06 on the old server
[12:33] <EricT> but that line was killing me
[12:33] <Jtkiefer> ok I'll try that
[12:33] <alcaponage> siloko: lol no, I want to know how I get it to look like that
[12:34] <alcaponage> siloko: I want my ubuntu to have the interactive thing on the bottom
[12:34] <siloko> alcaponage: aaahh you want compiz-fusion
[12:35] <Jtkiefer> be back in a sec, switching systems
[12:35] <alcaponage> siloko: i already have compiz-fusion, but i want the cool looking thing on the bottom
[12:35] <alcaponage> siloko: I want the firefox and azerus thing on the bottom, it moves around and it is animated
[12:36] <doafee> help plz
[12:36] <EricT> ugh.
[12:36] <EricT> trying to install openssh-server and its asking for the cdrom.
[12:36] <EricT> shouldn't it just find it online and be happy?
[12:36] <heguru> EricT: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:36] <kyled> i have a problem with grub, i have a dual boot system and now all of a sudden my windows xp home boot option is no longer in the grub boot menu. can anyone help?
[12:36] <heguru> EricT: comment the line with cdrom
[12:36] <kitche> EricT: yes it will if your remove the cd from your sources.list
[12:37] <siloko> alcaponage: ok well jumping icons?? not my thing really - have you checked out the icon settings in the compiz-manager?
[12:37] <EricT> hm. worked now
[12:37] <alcaponage> siloko: no i have not, what do i do
[12:37] <EricT> geniuses i tell you, geniuses!
[12:37] <siloko> alcaponage: there's also a compiz channel for people who max out the capabilities (which i don't)
[12:37] <EricT> and should i set my hostname to my IP, or does it matter?
[12:37] <alcaponage> siloko: what channel is that
[12:38] <tdizz1> i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the linux options
[12:38] <heguru> EricT: hostname to IP?
[12:38] <EricT> yeah.
[12:38] <tdizz1> ubuntu options*
[12:38] <heguru> heguru: set your hostname to your hostname
[12:39] <heguru> ^EricT
[12:39] <Jtkiefer> here's what xauth is returning, which I don't pretend to understand
[12:39] <Jtkiefer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39314/
[12:39] <EricT> when i installed, it asked for a hostname..
[12:39] <Arepie> urmmm.. my computer have some problem with wine, is there any other program that works like wine? to run windows application..
[12:39] <EricT> i set it to "Server", should i set it to my IP?
[12:39] <EricT> or does it matter?
[12:39] <Slart> Arepie: what kind of applications are you looking to run?
[12:40] <tdizz1> can anyone help me?
[12:40] <heguru> EricT: no, set it to whatever you want to name your server, shouldn't really matter unless you're running mail/web server
[12:40] <EricT> it is a web server
[12:40] <Arepie> Slart: urmmm.. internet download manager
[12:40] <EricT> for a very popular online forum
[12:40] <EricT> :)
[12:40] <thesaint4444> anyone know what is the safest way to rezise my / partion ? I need to leave everything intact....
[12:40] <EricT> thesaint4444, gparted
[12:40] <LjL> thesaint4444: the safest way is backing it up, recreating it and restoring it.
[12:40] <D-Flame> thesaint4444: Back up the data on it first too
[12:40] <EricT> use the gparted boot disk.
[12:40] <LjL> EricT: that's hardly a safe way.
[12:41] <EricT> do'h.
[12:41] <heguru> Jtkiefer: it looks fine
[12:41] <EricT> ignore me. i'm a n00b.
[12:41] <thesaint4444> LjL - server is in a data center - i dont have access....
[12:41] <Jtkiefer> I know, maybe I should just reinstall x and see if that helps
[12:41] <Arepie> Slart: i installed wine, but, i can't run it.. i don't know why.. it works earlier, but, suddenly it disappear..
[12:41] <heguru> Jtkiefer: can you paste the error again?
[12:41] <LjL> thesaint4444: then all ways are equally unsafe. (very.)
[12:41] <Slart> Arepie: there are some... qemu, vmware and such.. they, more or less, emulate a whole machine so they are a bit slower.. nothing to play Wow on.. but I'd keep trying with wine... these other programs will, afaik, require you to boot windows in a  window to run your program..
[12:41] <kitche> Arepie: open up terminal and type wine wine is a command line program
[12:41] <jackfusion> how do I make sure something dose not start up in ps -A when linux starts up?
[12:41] <Semidios> purity, I reexcuted the command using sudo.  it worked.  I copied the file over and it showed up perfectly.  I think I know what changes I have to make now to get it running.  Thank you.  I'll be in touch if I get stuck
[12:42] <Slart> Arepie: no logs? error messages?
[12:42] <clem> hello folks
[12:42] <EricT> anyone here use folding@home?
[12:42] <EricT> curious
[12:42] <LjL> thesaint4444: besides, if you can't physically access the computer, it means you can't work on the / partition while it's unmounted, which in turn means that you can't do it at all.
[12:42] <clem> ppl, I just installed xUbuntu, and added openoffice to it
[12:42] <geokeratz> clem> hi
[12:42] <LjL> !ot
[12:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:42] <Arepie> kitche: yea, i done with that.. it recognize, and it was there, but when i try to start the program, it won't load..
[12:42] <clem> BUT: ooffice window is weird
[12:42] <tdizz1>  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone help me to fix this?
[12:43] <genii> jackfusion: If something is running there is no way to make it not show up in ps -A aside from killing it
[12:43] <Arepie> Slart: where can i find the error msg?
[12:43] <clem> any hints on using ooffice in xubuntu?
[12:43] <Jtkiefer> heguru, it was essentially, creating new auth file .serverauth.11427 error user not authorized to run x
[12:43] <Filthpig> what the.. Pidgin won't connect me to msn because I lack some ssl libs, but everything I can find that seems relevant is installed.. and aMSN also runs
[12:43] <LjL> clem: perhaps try #xubuntu
[12:43] <Jtkiefer> even though it apparently is authorized to run x
[12:43] <clem> #xubuntu
[12:43] <LjL> clem: /join #xubuntu
[12:43] <thesaint4444> LjL: so the only way really is to go there use a boot disk and take it from there.... ?
[12:43] <LjL> thesaint4444: yup.
[12:43] <clem> LjL, will do that - thx
[12:44] <Arepie> Slart: if you can teach me how to clean all wine conf file, and let me setup from the very beginning is a good idea..
[12:44] <alcaponage> Does anyone know how to set up the interactive icons?
[12:44] <Lax> Hello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?
[12:44] <Slart> Arepie: just run your program from a terminal, like if I want to run.. Oblivion, I'd run "wine OblivionLauncher.exe" .. then I get the output into that same window while the program runs
[12:44] <LjL> Lax: temporarily, or forever?
[12:44] <fliegenderfrosch> Lax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options
[12:44] <Arepie> Slart: i told you, i done with that.. it don't work.. it don't load the file..
[12:44] <clem> hm.. and how do I join #xubuntu? (sorry for the newbie Q)
[12:45] <Slart> Arepie: how do you start your download manager?
[12:45] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, thanks, the machine has 4 other scsi disks in it - can i set them up remotely to store the data?
[12:45] <tdizz1> can anyone please help me?  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options.
[12:45] <kitche> clem: /join #ubuntu
[12:45] <Slart> Arepie: and you don't get any error messages at all when you type that?
[12:45] <NessieLiberation> clem: /j #xubuntu
[12:45] <kitche> clem: xubuntu of course :) missed the x
[12:45] <usr13> Arepie, I think you can navigate to the .exe file via the file manager and just click on it.
[12:45] <LjL> thesaint4444: probably. but you still won't be able to resize your / partition remotely
[12:45] <clem> oh, right
[12:45] <clem> (duh)
[12:45] <jackfusion> so the only to make sure a process like apache dose not start up when linux starts up is to reinstall linux correct?
[12:45] <LjL> jackfusion: ?!
[12:46] <Arepie> Slart: first, there was a menu for wine in the main menu.. but, when i try to click on that.. it won't load.. so i try from the terminal.. wine dman.exe, still don't work..
[12:46] <usr13> jackfusion,  no that's not so.
[12:46] <tdizz1> can no one help me?
[12:46] <migatxu> somebody here has a Axim X50v ?
[12:46] <thesaint4444> LjL: yes i will leave the route partition alone, how would i make the other disks available?
[12:46] <Arepie> usr13: yup.. and run with wine.. i try that too
[12:46] <jackfusion> is ps -A a list of running processes
[12:46] <jackfusion> ?
[12:46] <LjL> thesaint4444: partition them, format the partitions you create, and mount them.
[12:46] <tdizz1> i forgot to note that i can access all the files on the ubuntu partition with the ubuntu live CD
[12:47] <Lax> Hello. Anyone know how to remove the loading bar during boot in ubuntu? Just to see the various boot steps in text?. (sorry for double, was dced)
[12:47] <migatxu> an X50v from Dell
[12:47] <LjL> jackfusion: yes it is
[12:47] <fliegenderfrosch> Lax: i think you could just remove "splash" from the boot options
[12:47] <thesaint4444> LjL: how do i actually see them to partition them?
[12:47] <LjL> Lax: change "splash" into "nosplash" in the kernel parameters
[12:47] <Arepie> Slart: just to confirm.. can i use cedega to run application?
[12:47] <jackfusion> then how do I make sure a process dose not start up when linux starts up?
[12:47] <tdizz1> HELP!
[12:47] <ZenOswyn> i've setup ubuntu as a small web server. with the basic security measures taken care of (firewall, chrootkit, securing sshd) are there any other major security hazards i should be aware of?
[12:47] <usr13> jackfusion, sudo services-admin
[12:48] <clem> hm, nobody in #xubuntu
[12:48] <LjL> thesaint4444: you should see them fine as their device nodes - /dev/sd# or /dev/hd# where # is a number.
[12:48] <clem> will keep looking
[12:48] <Slart> Arepie: you do change the current directory so dman.exe shows up if you do a "ls"
[12:48] <jackfusion> ok thank you
[12:48] <Lax> LjL: where can i edit that? im just a noob windows user
[12:48] <Slart> Arepie: I douby Cedege will be any better at running it compared to wine.. but who knows
[12:48] <usr13> jackfusion, NP.  Yea, just go thru and check / uncheck to your heart's delight :)
[12:48] <heguru> Lax: if you just want to see the boot output without disabling splash forever, Press CTRL+F1 and CTL+F8 during boot
[12:48] <LjL> Lax: /boot/grub/menu.lst. search for "defoptions".
[12:48] <MikeD_> i upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and now the display manager won't stay running.  I'm using the 7.04 live cd, what can I do to fix my hd installation?
[12:49] <amias> anyone solved the 'non power of two textures' error when starting compiz ?
[12:49] <Arepie> Slart: i try for wine..
[12:49] <LjL> !compiz > amias    (amias, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:49] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, thanks, i think i can see them, how can i be sure exactly what they are?
[12:49] <tdizz1>  i accidentally deleted my ubuntu partition, restored it, and the GRUB didnt show. so i followed the quick start found here,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and got an error 17 when i tried to boot into any of the ubuntu options. can anyone PLEASE help me to fix this?
[12:49] <usr13> jackfusion, It's also important to realize that when you install a new server or service, it will be running when the install is done.
[12:50] <LjL> thesaint4444: you can't. but "fdisk -l /dev/whatever" will tell you how big a drive it is, so you can probably guess.
[12:50] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, and that is not dangerous in any way?
[12:50] <LjL> thesaint4444: that command above? no, as long as it's with the "-l" option.
[12:50] <usr13> tdizz1, So, you deleted one of your partitions?  Which one?
[12:50] <tdizz1> the ubuntu one
[12:50] <tdizz1> but i got it back
[12:51] <Lax> Ljl: the file is write protected :p.. how do i edit it as admin?
[12:51] <LjL> !sudo > Lax    (Lax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:51] <MikeD_> can i use the live CD to install the OS to the HD without destroying the existing data?
[12:51] <LjL> Lax: "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:51] <thesaint4444> Ljl: ok, thanks and then use fdisk to partition an format?
[12:51] <LjL> !install > MikeD_    (MikeD_, see the private message from Ubotu) yes
[12:51] <tdizz1> and i followed a guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29 to get the list of OSs back, but it gives me an error 17 when i try to boot into any of the ubuntu options
[12:51] <DoYouKnow> mike, yeah, if you have some unpartitioned space
[12:52] <MikeD_> thanks
[12:52] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes. of course, *that* is dangerous - you need to make very sure you're partitioning and formatting the right drive.
[12:52] <clem> ppl, could anyone recommend a chat server to ask about Firefox?
[12:52] <LjL> clem: /join #firefox
[12:52] <clem> LjL, okidoki
[12:52] <thesaint4444> LjL: ok, I get the idea very clearly... you can partition and format from root another disk without a problem?
[12:53] <thesaint4444> LjL: but make sure it is the right disk :-)
[12:53] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes, although the kernel might then ask you to reboot (but that's unlikely if there were no partitions on the drive before)
[12:53] <Lax> thanks going to try a reboot then ;)
[12:53] <drewzf> How can I check what provides something?
[12:53] <drewzf> in aptitude
[12:53] <thesaint4444> LjL: that wouldn't be a problem.....
[12:53] <LjL> Lax: wait
[12:53] <LjL> Lax: "sudo update-grub" first
[12:54] <LjL> drewzf: "provides" as in the "Provides:" attribute?
[12:54] <drewzf> LjL, Precisely
[12:54] <LjL> drewzf: hold on
[12:54] <tdizz1> Can't anyone PLEASE help me??!!
[12:54] <usr13> tdizz1, Not sure how to advise you.  Not enough information.  Need to know what parition or partitions you deleted.  If you deleted  the partition that / is mounted on, the you're pretty well hosed up.  If you deleted a swap partition, that can be fixed.  If you dleeted a partition that has /home mounted on it, well that's recoverable I guess.  But, as I say, unless we know which partition and what data you have lost, we will be unable to advise you.
[12:55] <tdizz1> i deleted a / partition
[12:55] <tdizz1> and got everything back from it
[12:55] <LjL> drewzf:  aptitude search "~Dprovides:<packagename>"
[12:55] <LjL> drewzf: without the <>
[12:55] <tdizz1> i got the GRUB thing back, but it wont let me boot into the ubuntu partition
[12:56] <heguru> tdizz1: how did you delete the / partition? using windows installer? or fdisk?
[12:56] <drewzf> hmm
[12:56] <LjL> he's saying he restored the / partition.
[12:56] <tdizz1> i deleted it with GParted
[12:56] <tdizz1> by accident
[12:56] <heguru> maybe he just restored the MBR
[12:56] <tdizz1> i had an extra one
[12:56] <tdizz1> and got them confused
[12:56] <tdizz1> lol
[12:56] <LjL> tdizz1: how were you able to recover the partition?
[12:57] <tdizz1> idk what i did to restore it; i used TestDisk
[12:57] <LjL> testdisk, i see.
[12:57] <LjL> tdizz1: do you know what the partition is called? (like /dev/sda1 for instance)
[12:57] <usr13> tdizz1, If you deleted that partition, I'm not sure how you could have gotten anything back from it.  Exactly WHAT did you do?  (Not totally sure you have actually deleted a partition - Because if you've really deleted a partition and re-created it, there will be no data on it, and if it's the root partition, (/), you might as well go on and re-install.
[12:57] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me with my cube?
[12:57] <LjL> !info testdisk
[12:57] <alcaponage> I have everything turned on but the cube isn't working
[12:57] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[12:58] <thesaint4444> LJl - could i say move /home to the other disk?
[12:58] <grandy> hello...  i have a question about gutsy... if  i upgrade to the beta will i miss anything that is released in the final?  Does doing an apt-get upgrade make a beta install equivalent to final (in a few weeks or whenever it's done)?  Or will I be stuck with a system with broken parts?
[12:59] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what exactly do you mean by "everything turned on"?
[12:59] <tdizz1> my ubuntu partition is called /dev/hda6
[12:59] <usr13> tdizz1, GRUB does not boot partitions, it boots kernels.  So, are we to assume you have deleted a kernel?
[12:59] <heguru> !gutsy > grandy
[12:59] <tdizz1> im not completely sure
[12:59] <LjL> thesaint4444: yes, you could, but to avoid messing things up, you should at a point (i.e. when swiching /home's) boot in single-user mode, which i doubt is possible remotely
[12:59] <grandy> heguru:  huh?
[12:59] <barzini> i have a bucket of these how do I resolve them ...libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed  gnome-keyring: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[12:59] <LjL> tdizz1: you have extended partitions?
[12:59] <NessieLiberation> !final > grandy
[01:00] <tdizz1> yeah, one
[01:00] <tdizz1> and a couple partitions above it in the list in GParted
[01:00] <tdizz1> lol im a linux newb
[01:00] <usr13> tdizz1, what do you see when grub comes up at boot time?  Do you see any kernels?  Do you see one that is designated "recovery-mode"?
[01:01] <tdizz1> yes i do, and the kernels
[01:01] <tdizz1> all of them give me an error 17
[01:01] <tdizz1> the only option in the list that boots is Windows XP
[01:01] <usr13> tdizz1, So, you used GParted and deleted a partition?
[01:01] <thesaint4444> LjL: i think it is possible, i have a drac (dell remote access card) but i have enough on my plate to add that to the list!
[01:01] <tdizz1> yes
[01:01] <tdizz1> and restored it using TestDisk
[01:01] <LjL> tdizz1: then type "e" on a recovery mode kernel and make sure that everywhere it has a partition name, it's the right partition. if there is a UUID (a long string of number and digits), change it into the partition name.
[01:01] <tdizz1> ok
[01:02] <thesaint4444> LjL: would i boot into single user mode then move /home ?
[01:02] <usr13> tdizz1,  and that partition would be hda6?
[01:02] <spiderpig> hello everyone
[01:02] <MikeD_> what are the commands to perform a system update from CLI?  (or a url to a walkthrough)
[01:02] <tdizz1> yes it is
[01:02] <fujin> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <Chousuke> with sudo
[01:02] <barzini> if 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1 is not a real pkg why is ti a depends and how to I get rid of it
[01:02] <Chousuke> I prefer aptitude though. :P
[01:02] <usr13> tdizz1, Do you know what was mounted on that partition?
[01:02] <tdizz1> what do u mean?
[01:02] <tdizz1> u mean the mount point?
[01:02] <LjL> thesaint4444: no. you *copy* /home first (using "cp -a"), *then* you edit /etc/fstab to get the new partition mounted as /home, then you reboot to check that it works, and only then, you should remove your old home (the OLD, not the new, careful ;)
[01:03] <usr13> tdizz1, Was /  (the root directory) mounted on it?
[01:03] <tdizz1> yes
[01:03] <hgjjjf> whn  i pop in the sims 2 cd i get this Cannot mount volume.Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.
[01:03] <LjL> thesaint4444: the problem is that, during that process, there will come a point where you'll have no /home partition at all. you should be logged in as root at that time, otherwise weird things may happen. ideally, you should be in single user mode.
[01:03] <lfever_> hello everyone
[01:03] <usr13> tdizz1, If that is true, I see no other option for you but to re-install, (and then try not to delete any more partitions that are in use from now on :)
[01:03] <Lax> LjL. #defoptions=quiet nosplash. i changed it to nosplash but its still showing it....
[01:03] <mcphail> tdizz1: you have restored the partition, but is the partition type "linux"?
[01:04] <hgjjjf> whn i pop in the sims disk i get this nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'.
[01:04] <LjL> Lax, did you also issue  sudo update-grub ?
[01:04] <tdizz1> what u mean?
[01:04] <Lax> no ops
[01:04] <tdizz1> like the filesystem?
[01:04] <LjL> tdizz1: no, the partition type as shown by fdisk
[01:04] <mcphail> tdizz1: no, the partiton type. Presumably the filesystem will be ext3
[01:04] <barzini> is this a real file 2.8.20-0ubuntu1.1?
[01:04] <tdizz1> yes its ext3
[01:04] <Lax> ill give it a go again then.. :)
[01:05] <mcphail> tdizz1: yes, but what is the partition type?
[01:05] <thesaint4444> LjL: so do what you need to do then reboot and login as single user mode?
[01:05] <LjL> thesaint4444: yeah basically you'll only need single user mode to delete the old /home
[01:05] <mcphail> tdizz1: use "sudo fdisk -l" and see what the "Id" column says
[01:05] <hgjjjf>  whn i pop in the sims disk i get this invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Sims2Deluxe'
[01:06] <Voodoo_John> hi, im on fiesty fawn and my usb soundcard isnt working
[01:06] <sky1> looks like my repositories are messed up, it shows Ubuntu Servers status failed in lot of servers when I do a check
[01:06] <tdizz1> 82
[01:06] <tdizz1> 83*
[01:06] <tdizz1> i meant 83 lol
[01:06] <sky1> I also cant upgrade to Ubuntu 7.04 because of this
[01:06] <usr13> mcphail, I don't think he will be able to tell you that.  But, if he were to boot to a live CD and look around some, he might be able to give us more useful info.  But that would be hard thing to do.
[01:06] <LjL> tdizz1: that's Linux, yes.
[01:07] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working
[01:07] <mcphail> tdizz1: so that's fine
[01:07] <tdizz1> yeah i know it says linux
[01:07] <needhelp> Hi, I have a problem with my printer. I am able to print a testpage from within printer administration. But whenever I try to print something from a webpage or from OpenOffice, only a blank white paper comes out. Anyeone ?
[01:07] <rabbitnightmare> ok i went to install amarok and it installed then it wouldnt play mp3's and it crashed while doing this it says mp3 support is installed but wont play any of my music what do I do?
[01:07] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:07] <LjL> rabbitnightmare: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:08] <rabbitnightmare> ok ty
[01:08] <sky1> how can I fix my repositories ?
[01:08] <LjL> !source-o-matic > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:08] <usr13> sky1, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:08] <rabbitnightmare> E: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg
[01:09] <needhelp> FAQ. | FAQ
[01:09] <mcphail> tdizz1: have you fsck'd your partition?
[01:09] <tdizz1> ?
[01:09] <fliegenderfrosch> rabbitnightmare: that's a 1 (one) behind xine, not a L
[01:09] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:09] <tdizz1> what do you mean by that?
[01:09] <alcaponage> Can someone help me with the cube?
[01:09] <usr13> sky1, 7.04?
[01:09] <rabbitnightmare> oops :P
[01:09] <rabbitnightmare> sorry
[01:10] <sky1> usr13, yeah Im using Edgy, I wan to use Fiesty
[01:10] <mcphail> tdizz1: performed a filesystem check? You should be able to do this from the live cd
[01:10] <rabbitnightmare> already installed and newest version
[01:10] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what have you done so far?
[01:10] <tdizz1> how do i do that?
[01:10] <usr13> You can just grab sources.list from another system.
[01:11] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: I have compiz fusion already and I can Alt Ctrl L and R to switch
[01:11] <hgjjjf> how do i mount the cd drive?
[01:11] <rabbitnightmare> i might try kubuntu as this is annoying lol
[01:11] <usr13> sky1, Or, one of us can give you ours.
[01:11] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: But I can't go Alt Ctrl Down to go into cube mode
[01:11] <mcphail> tdizz1: boot into the live cd, unmount the partition "sudo umount /dev/whatever" then "sudo e2fsck /dev/whatever"
[01:11] <tdizz1> k
[01:11] <rabbitnightmare> sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[01:11] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:11] <usr13> sky1, I'll put mine on a server and send you a link.
[01:11] <sky1> usr13, thank you, I am trying to generate myself one from the weblink I got from ubotu,also it will help me learn about source list files ;)
[01:12] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: afaik you can use EITHER the cube or the wall
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: if it is a large partition prepare to give it half an hour or so
[01:12] <tdizz1> tells me the commands not found
[01:12] <rabbitnightmare> the ffmpeg stuff is installed fine but mp3's still wont play
[01:12] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: afaik? I want the cube tho
[01:12] <rabbitnightmare> in amarok
[01:12] <Lax> LjL: worked nicely, thank you. you wouldnt also know how to make my startup session apps start minimized to tray? thinking about gaim...
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: which command?
[01:12] <tdizz1> unmount
[01:12] <mcphail> tdizz1: umount
[01:13] <tdizz1> oh!
[01:13] <tdizz1> lol
[01:13] <tdizz1> sorrt
[01:13] <tdizz1> sorry*
[01:13] <mcphail> :)
[01:13] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: what do you use to configure compiz and which version of ubuntu do you use? (afaik = as far as i know)
[01:13] <geko> hello. I'm from Universidade do Minho. And we are mirroring ubuntu. I was wondering how can we be an official mirror. Can you help us?
[01:13] <geko> @ cesium.di.uminho.pt/pub/
[01:13] <thesaint4444> LjL: cool, thanks for the help, I will try and format, partition and mount one of the drives now, how should i set the partitions on the other drives? logical or primary? am i right in thinking primary for one continuous drive and logical for multiple partitions on the same drive?
[01:13] <kitche> geko: read the mirror info on the wiki it's all explained there
[01:13] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: I have feisty I use CFSM
[01:14] <tdizz1> k it finished really fast and says "/dev/hda6: clean, 190402/856480 files, 1649761/1710914 blocks"
[01:14] <rabbitnightmare> can someone with amarok experience help me
[01:14] <LjL> Lax, nope, i'm not on GNOME
[01:14] <rabbitnightmare> please
[01:14] <LjL> thesaint4444, no, you'll only need logical if you want more than 4 partitions on a single drive.
[01:14] <mattthebaker> what ftpd is recommened for use with ubuntu for a standard desktop? i used to use vsftpd with gentoo, but am wondering if there is a better alternative?
[01:14] <geko> kitche: ok. thank you
[01:14] <dfletcher_> is there a pdf viewer for gnome?
[01:15] <RickX> can someone tell me how to install universe repository?
[01:15] <Chousuke> dfletcher_: evince
[01:15] <kitche> mattthebaker: well there is two proftpd camp or vsftpd camp there is others but those two are the best documented ones
[01:15] <dfletcher_> trying it, thanks Chousuke
[01:15] <mattthebaker> kitche: thanks
[01:15] <mcphail> tdizz1: ...just googling error17...
[01:16] <tdizz1> k
[01:16] <alcaponage> fliegenderfrosch: ?
[01:16] <thesaint4444> LJL: aah.. ok, so primary and mount it as any name i want then it should appear in my file system?
[01:16] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: is the cube plugin activated and the wall plugin deactivated?
[01:17] <LjL> thesaint4444: "mountpoint", the place you want to mount it on is called, but yes.
[01:17] <alcaponage> fliegender the cube is activated and the wall is deactivated
[01:17] <LjL> !fstab > thesaint4444    (thesaint4444, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:17] <Lax> anyone else knows how to start apps minimized in gnome?
[01:17] <anathematic> how do i start cron on my ubuntu server?
[01:17] <barzini> anyone know whats going on here Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.3+2_i386.deb
[01:18] <rabbitnightmare> will someone please help me I am having troubles playing my music with amaroK
[01:18] <Flannel> anathematic: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:18] <jwcgator> I need help with desktop effects
[01:18] <anathematic>  Flannel whatever the newest server one is
[01:18] <Filthpig> does anyone know if Gutsy has upport for the rt73 chipset (I.e. on a Linksys WUSB54GC)? Feisty tried using rt73usb, but that didn't work.. I went through a really long howto to get it to work, and it did! ...until I rebooted :/
[01:18] <jwcgator> with them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows
[01:18] <anathematic> doesn't seem to be running
[01:19] <jwcgator> any help?
[01:19] <sky1> how do I write the file, I am using gedit, but it is asking for sudo, how can I write into the sources.list file ?
[01:19] <Xenguy> anathematic: I would think it would be started automatically, yes?  Try: ps aux |grep -i cron
[01:19] <Xenguy> anathematic: any output from that?
[01:19] <anathematic> Xenguy: already did that, for sone reason it's not running
[01:19] <LjL> sky1: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <LjL> !sudo > sky1    (sky1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:19] <fliegenderfrosch> alcaponage: so is there any animation when you change desktop?
[01:19] <anathematic> just the search i just did came up that was it Xenguy
[01:19] <Filthpig> !rt73
[01:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt73 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <anathematic> which i thought was wierd: i know it's installed
[01:19] <jwcgator> I need help with desktop effects
[01:19] <jwcgator> with them turned on, I have lost the bars at the top of my windows
[01:19] <Filthpig> !ralink
[01:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:19] <Flannel> anathematic: Feisty uses upstart to do the cron thing.  I believe its a drop in replacement.
[01:19] <jwcgator> Any help getting them back
[01:19] <LjL> jwcgator: nvidia card?
[01:19] <Acidictadpole> I'm having trouble getting responses from the apt-get update servers.. I originally had them set to ca. and I changed them to us. I still get 404 though using apt-get update. I can ping the servers fine.
[01:20] <Xenguy> anathematic: try: which cron
[01:20] <alcaponage> Can ANYONE help me with my cube?
[01:20] <anathematic> Flannel: but it has cron installed still? I just want to start it again without restarting the server
[01:20] <jwcgator> yes
[01:20] <jwcgator> ljl
[01:20] <LjL> Acidictadpole: pastebin your sources.list
[01:20] <Acidictadpole> k
[01:20] <LjL> jwcgator: try  sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24  and then restart X
[01:20] <anathematic> Xenguy: "/usr/sbin/cron"
[01:20] <Greyscale> sleep good
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> alcaponage: try #ubuntu-effects
[01:20] <thesaint4444> LJL: cheers...
[01:20] <ekrengel> does anyone know how to unshare a folder from the terminal?
[01:20] <anathematic> Xenguy: when i  just go "sudo crond" it saids command not found
[01:21] <anathematic> =\ which is wierd
[01:21] <lfever_> Feisty Package Manager and apt-get return errors, can anybody help? :-[
[01:21] <mcphail> tdizz1: i'm struggling to work out why you should get an error17. The partition exists, and is clearly ext3...
[01:21] <LjL> anathematic: that's because the cron daemon is simply called 'cron'
[01:21] <tdizz1> and has all the files that were on it before
[01:21] <LjL> anathematic: though i don't think you're supposed to invoke it manually
[01:21] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: can you be a bit more specific?
[01:21] <usr13> sky1, Still there?
[01:22] <tdizz1> does anyone else have an idea why this would happen?
[01:22] <anathematic> yeah LjL i don't think so
[01:22] <sky1> usr13, yup I just replaced the file
[01:22] <anathematic> but you should be able to still
[01:22] <Acidictadpole> LjL: http://pastebin.com/d62d68e93
[01:22] <LjL> anathematic: you are. but "crond" never existed, it's "cron"
[01:22] <Xenguy> anathematic: /etc/init.d/cron --help
[01:22] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: what's the error message?
[01:22] <usr13> Ok, good.
[01:22] <tdizz1> maybe the GRUB is trying to load it from a wrong place? just wondering...im a linux newb so have no clue what that would mean....
[01:22] <Xenguy> anathematic: anyway, it should start up automatically when you boot
[01:22] <LjL> Acidictadpole, that sources.list is for Breezy, and Breezy is not supported since a long time now.
[01:22] <sky1> usr13, I think Im gonna upgrade to FIesty now, hope my T60 doesnt crashes
[01:22] <anathematic> LjL: sorry that's just waht an article said i was reading
[01:23] <anathematic> Xenguy: yeah i know, no idea why it was down
[01:23] <anathematic> anyway it's up now thanks
[01:23] <Xenguy> anathematic: yw
[01:23] <anathematic> oh wait
[01:23] <anathematic> Xenguy: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4381: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:23] <anathematic> bah silly thing
[01:23] <sky1> usr13, I dont need to reboot or restart the system after updating the source list right ?
[01:23] <LjL> anathematic:  sudo invoke-rc.d cron restart 
[01:23] <decay> anyone here an expert with twinview settings?
[01:24] <LjL> sky1: right, but you need to  sudo apt-get update 
[01:24] <anathematic> thank you LjL now it's behaving
[01:24] <LjL> !anyone > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:24] <Xenguy> anathematic: or just /etc/init.d/cron restart
[01:24] <LjL> !twinview > decay    (decay, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:24] <anathematic> Xenguy: i must get my act togethe and just learn these soon
[01:24] <Xenguy> anathematic: er, with sudo
[01:24] <anathematic> thanks again
[01:24] <anathematic> yeah i figured ;)
[01:24] <Acidictadpole> LjL: How can I go about a remote distribution upgrade then?
[01:24] <LjL> Xenguy: why on earth? the 'invoke-rc.d' command is there so that you don't do that manually.
[01:24] <LjL> !upgrade > Acidictadpole    (Acidictadpole, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:25] <decay> it's complicated. I can't just type it out. i'd have to explain in details and that would take alot of lines
[01:25] <Acidictadpole> appreciated :)
[01:25] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch i'm getting several errors Cant parse, section with no headers problem with merge list, non version list
[01:25] <anathematic> LjL and Xenguy: i did that command restarted it however the process doesn't appear to be running still?
[01:25] <cafuego> LjL: After 10-odd years, typing /etc/init.d/ is a *lot* faster for me than typing invoke-rc.d
[01:25] <Voodoo_John> my on board sound card has never worked, so i have a usb audio device and its not working, i had just bought it
[01:25] <Xenguy> LjL: if it were 'service' or some such I might remember it, but that command is more trouble to remember than the typing it saves (if it does at all :-)
[01:25] <anathematic> (I used "px aux | grep cron" ot look for it
[01:25] <cafuego> Plus I keep typo3ing the latter :-(
[01:26] <LjL> anathematic: tail /var/log/syslog, see if cron complained about anything
[01:26] <sky1> usr13, its waiting on connecting to seveas.imbrandon.com << 99% after i do sudo apt-get update
[01:26] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: "sudo apt-get update" doesn't help? have you changed your sources.list?
[01:26] <LjL> Xenguy: you just have to rememeber "invoke". actually, "invo".
[01:26] <anathematic> LjL:  yeah it did http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39321/
[01:27] <usr13> Acidictadpole, http://cmsproducer.com/ubuntu-upgrade-5.10-breezy-badger-7.04-feisty-fawn
[01:27] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:28] <X3n> hey there, my rythmbox randomly stops playing sound sometimes
[01:28] <X3n> like sometimes it works, i mean it always works, but sometimes theres no sound :S
[01:28] <X3n> using fiesty
[01:28] <Xenguy> LjL: funnily enough it does appear to be exactly the same amount of typing -- go figure ;-)
[01:28] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch that returns errors, i haven't changed my sources list.
[01:29] <X3n> i cant listen to mp3's, it plays them but no sound :S
[01:29] <X3n> sometimes there is sound, sometimes there isnt :S
[01:29] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:29] <whiskeytango> godzirra, you online still?
[01:30] <Sivik> X3n, what sound driver and your not running anything else with sound, are you?
[01:30] <kailashamri1> can anyone help?
[01:30] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[01:30] <X3n> nope, not running anything else with sound
[01:30] <X3n> how do i check my sound driver?
[01:30] <jansenq> Anybody have proglems with flgrx after upgrading to gusty?
[01:30] <Pici> jansenq: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[01:31] <simplechat> hey, i've been trying to get x to recognise my graphics card, i reconfigured and hosed X
[01:31] <jansenq> Pici: Thx
[01:31] <LjL> Xenguy: it does? for /etc/init.d/, i neet to type /e<Tab>in<Tab>.<Tab>
[01:31] <simplechat> its coming up with a fatal error that i can't find any screens
[01:31] <Sassuke> sers leutz
[01:31] <simplechat> i copied back the backup xorg.conf and it still dies on startup
[01:31] <unjustice> uk
[01:31] <simplechat> :(
[01:31] <Xenguy> LjL: ahh, wasn't thinking of
[01:31] <simplechat> what do i do?
[01:31] <Sassuke> deutsche hier ?
[01:31] <usr13> simplechat, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:31] <Sassuke> ^^
[01:31] <Flannel> !de | Sassuke
[01:31] <ubotu> Sassuke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:32] <Xenguy> LjL: tabs
[01:32] <X3n> im using alsa sound driver?
[01:32] <simplechat> usr13, i'm a noob at this, and last time i reconfigured i killed my machine
[01:32] <Sassuke> kann mir vllt. jemand kurz mit meinen nub fragen helfen ?
[01:32] <fliegenderfrosch> lfever_: sorry, exept for replacing the sources.list with a "clean" one and trying again, i have no idea
[01:32] <X3n> its really random though, sometimes i can hear music, and sometimes not
[01:32] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?
[01:32] <Sassuke> will mir jetzt endlich linux drauf hauen was aber nicht so richtig was ich beachten soll
[01:32] <X3n> it plays mp3's but sometimes no sound
[01:32] <simplechat> usr13, could i have some help running through it?
[01:32] <LjL> anathematic: pastebin your /etc/crontab
[01:33] <anathematic> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39323/ and thanks =)
[01:33] <usr13> simplechat, Yes
[01:33] <LjL> Sassuke: bitte schreibe /join #ubuntu-de
[01:33] <whiskeytango> Ok, when i try to install my binary drivers fo rmy video card it says "cant open whatevertehfileis.run"
[01:33] <LjL> Sassuke: wir sprechen englisch hier
[01:33] <fliegenderfrosch> Sassuke: gerne in #ubuntu-de
[01:33] <erisco> ahh! crap
[01:33] <simplechat> usr13, unknown option reconfigure
[01:33] <t00na> Quick! I have some grandparents who know very little about computers, they bought a new computer, and I'm going to put a 'buntu on it. Gnome or KDE?
[01:33] <lfever_> fliegenderfrosch: thanks for the info, i will give that a try
[01:33] <LjL> anathematic: there's your problem. the first line is missing a #
[01:33] <erisco> I partitioned my disk and reinstalled ubuntu but there appears to be a problem with installing windows
[01:33] <anathematic> ahhh thanks
[01:33] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:33] <Xenguy> t00na: gnome
[01:33] <usr13> simplechat, Actually, there is an easier way.
[01:34] <Sassuke> sry wechsele channel :D
[01:34] <simplechat> yes?
[01:34] <t00na> Xenguy: why?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> t00na: That's a very touchy question.  Chances are folks here will vote Gnome, those in #kubuntu KDE.
[01:34] <anathematic> oh Ljl that was jsut my pasting
[01:34] <anathematic> it's there
[01:34] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE help me with this problem?
[01:34] <usr13> simplechat,  DO you have Ubuntu 7.04 CD you can boot to?
[01:34] <Xenguy> t00na: simpler, less options
[01:34] <t00na> Hm... okay
[01:34] <t00na> kthxbai!
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> t00na: You can always start with Gnome and switch later if you feel like it - you're not locked into one or the other.
[01:34] <simplechat> In the log file it says "Failed to load module fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) no drivers avalible
[01:34] <simplechat> yeah, i do
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> bah
[01:34] <usr13> simplechat, If so, boot to it and copy the xorg.conf file over to the hard drive.
[01:34] <_Jaak_> i am trying to setup a pptp vpn server, it works but when i connect to it the devices looses internet connection, what do i setup server side to give the clients acces to the internet of the server?
[01:35] <simplechat> usr13, ok
[01:35] <erisco> my partitions are as followings: Swap, EXT3, Unpartitioned Space, EXT3. When I try to install windows on the unpartitioned space it says the maximum number of partitions already exist. Is it impossible to use the unpartitioned space simply because there is partitioned space occuring after it?
[01:35] <erisco> what is going on?
[01:35] <whiskeytango> /notice godzirra hey would you mind walking me through getting these binary drivers to work for my 8500 GT ?
[01:35] <whiskeytango> bah
[01:35] <kailashamri1> we have problems with ekiga 2.0.11. chats error time out, talking impossible, cant quit the software - who is using it?
[01:35] <sinizzl> how do i change my machine's domain name ?
[01:35] <simplechat> usr13, where would i find it on the disk?
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: try  sudo cron -f  and see what it says then
[01:36] <usr13> simplechat, e.g.  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /mnt/hda2/etc/X11/     (using hypothetical mount point /mnt/hda2, you will have to customize as needed.)
[01:36] <anathematic> LjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29146: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:36] <erisco> does anyone know?
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: ok try again after  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop 
[01:36] <anathematic> LjL i've got my root account locked is that the problem maybe?
[01:36] <erisco> why will windows not install on the available free space? :s
[01:36] <LjL> anathematic: of course not. the root account is *supposed* to be locked.
[01:37] <anathematic> ahh i see
[01:37] <anathematic> LjL: done :)
[01:37] <usr13> simplechat, Once it boots up and is working ok, open a terminal and copy the xorg.conf file to the HD, (as shown above(.
[01:37] <simplechat> usr13, ok, i just need to find the cd
[01:37] <Pelo> erisco, where is the free space located ? windows likes being on the first partition of the boot hdd
[01:37] <simplechat> and my computer is taking a long time to cycle
[01:37] <Mr_Siebel> Can anybody tell me how to go about finding open ports on my machine?
[01:37] <LjL> erisco: are you sure there aren't *four* partitions already?
[01:37] <thesaint4444> LjL: that was really helpfull, thanks. When i look at my fstab there is no seperate partition for /home - it must be contained within root, does that make things easier if I add a new mount point?
[01:37] <erisco> Pelo,  2GB Swap, 20GB EXT3, 58GB Unpartitioned Space, 120GB EXT3
[01:38] <vmlinuz`> hey
[01:38] <LjL> thesaint4444: neither easier nor harder.
[01:38] <erisco> LjL, nope
[01:38] <LjL> !info nmap | Mr_Siebel
[01:38] <ubotu> mr_siebel: nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[01:38] <vmlinuz`> whats the command to re-configure xfce dsktop as a start
[01:38] <Pelo> erisco, boot the ubuntu live cd,  move the partitions so the unalocated space is at the beginning of the hdd
[01:38] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone PLEASE!!!!!! help me with this problem?
[01:38] <erisco> Pelo, but that puts windows at the end of the disk... it will be slow :(
[01:38] <LjL> anathematic: so what does it say now?
[01:39] <anathematic> LjL: well it saids that it stopped it
[01:39] <anathematic> i'll start it again
[01:39] <LjL> anathematic: no.
[01:39] <anathematic> okay
[01:39] <LjL> anathematic: i meant to type  cron -f  now
[01:39] <erisco> Pelo, what would you recommend I do to arrange my partitions in a good order?
[01:40] <thesaint4444> Mr_Siebel: netstat -nlt - use man netstat....
[01:40] <anathematic> LjL: "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 29194: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, I wouldn't want 58GB of windows right at the start... I previously installed windows at the end
[01:40] <Pelo> erisco,  are you trying to install windows on a ext3 partition ? can'T do that , you need to install in in unallocated space to windows format's it to nfts
[01:40] <Mark7> Evening all
[01:40] <tdizzy> i accidently removed my Ubuntu partition, restored it using TestDisk, and put the ubuntu kernel thing back in the GRUB  list, however i get an error 17 when i try to boot anything involving ubuntu. can anyone help me with this problem?!!!!
[01:40] <thesaint4444> LjL - hmmm..
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, no, I am trying to use the remaining space for windows
[01:40] <LjL> anathematic: ps aux | grep 29194
[01:40] <Mark7> The text in here is tiny
[01:40] <erisco> Pelo, but windows won't do it... I think it is because the remaining space is between two partitions
[01:40] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[01:41] <mcphail> tdizzy: when you use "sudo fdisk -l", what partition is your (restored) root partition?
[01:41] <sinizzl> in what file is my computer's domain name set ?
[01:41] <LjL> tdizzy, have you tried hitting "e" on your kernel item in GRUB, and making sure the *correct* partition is mentioned everywhere in the stuff that comes up?
[01:41] <Pelo> erisco,   I already told you what to do , move the unallocated space to the beginning of the hdd and install windows on that
[01:41] <erisco> Pelo, I have to factor 2GB swap, 20GB / (ext3), 120GB /home (ext3) and 58GB NTFS
[01:41] <tdizzy> yeah
[01:41] <tdizzy> it is
[01:41] <vmlinuz`> I didn't know what happened to my xfce, now I 'm in Xfce without any bars.. how to reconfigure it pls
[01:41] <erisco> Pelo, but I don't want windows at the very start... that is the fastest spot on the disk. I want my swap there :P
[01:41] <Pelo> erisco,  maybe you should ask in ##windows
[01:41] <tdizzy> hda6 is the partition
[01:41] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: rm -rf /tmp && rm -rf ~/.config as your normal user
[01:41] <anathematic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/
[01:42] <anathematic> oh yeah LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39324/
[01:42] <erisco> Pelo, nah this is a linux question :P
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: and there is no UUID mentioned anywhere?
[01:42] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that basically resets the entire xfce config.
[01:42] <tdizzy> whatds UUID?
[01:42] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: Thanks.
[01:42] <Pelo> erisco,  it's about intalling windows that is a windows question
[01:42] <Pelo> !uuid | tdizzy
[01:42] <ubotu> tdizzy: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: a long string of numbers and letters, as i said before.
[01:42] <vmlinuz`> that resets kde and gnome config too?
[01:42] <erisco> Pelo, no it is about using a linux based application to partition my disk
[01:42] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: beware of not accidentally deleting files in /tmp that u still want to use though... but i guess u know that urself
[01:42] <LjL> tdizzy: if you see one, change it into your partition name - /dev/whatever
[01:42] <tdizzy> UUID="637daae7-0816-45e1-a34a-faa5f6c3a985"
[01:43] <tdizzy> so i have to change that?
[01:43] <Pelo> erisco, right now it's about where to put windows,  you got my opinion , if you want a second opinion ask someone else
[01:43] <BarryToeman> My cut and paste stopped working.  Every paste ends up as "".  Select and paste with mouse middle button still works, however.
[01:43] <LjL> anathematic: so, cron is running, and it doesn't want to stop. try  sudo invoke-rc.d cron stop  once again, then see if it's still in  ps aux | grep cron ; if it is,  sudo killall -9 cron 
[01:43] <erisco> Pelo, alrighty
[01:43] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yea but there was a GUI popped on me when i first ran xfce to configure it. then after that it says "If you dislike this in future you can easily write this command 'blah blah' to re-configure it again"
[01:43] <MikeD_> how can i backup a large /home folder to multiple DVD?
[01:43] <vmlinuz`> but thing is sinizzl i can't remember that command 'blah blah' do you know it?
[01:43] <erisco> Pelo, do you think it would work if I put windows at the end of the drive though?
[01:43] <LjL> tdizzy: that is from your boot menu?
[01:43] <tussey> hey new version of flash is out, what's the easiest way to get it?
[01:43] <tdizzy> no...
[01:43] <tdizzy> lol
[01:44] <sayers> With cups I have my mom an ubuntu user, if I add her to the allowed printer users, even though she's on a different machine will it allow her to print?
[01:44] <anathematic> LjL:  it's stopped now after the killall -9 ...
[01:44] <tdizzy> theres no UUID in my boot menu
[01:44] <simplechat> usr13, i'm in the boot disk, and the mount point is disk, in /media
[01:44] <X3n> what the hell man, i cant listen to any mp3's now -.-, im getting no sound! it plays the files, but no sound!?, man this is random and starting to piss me off
[01:44] <anathematic> so LjL where from here? :)
[01:44] <Pelo> erisco, I beleive I said windows likes to be at the beginning,  if you want another answer on where it is best to install windows try asking in ##windows
[01:44] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that command was certainly not those two i just gave you... would really surprise me if they were... in any case, it will do the job. xfce stores any settings in ~/.config but if u dont delete /tmp/ as well it ignores ur 'settings-reset'
[01:44] <LjL> tdizzy: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:44] <LjL> anathematic: "cron -f"
[01:44] <sky1> uggh, I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use
[01:44] <Pelo> later folks
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: no your command wasnt it.
[01:45] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: certainly not :D
[01:45] <anathematic> LjL: nothing is coming up now just a blank line?
[01:45] <sinizzl> i use both gnome-panel & xfce-panel at the same time... lol... xfce panel lacks some features i need ;-(
[01:45] <LjL> anathematic: it means it's running, apparently. stop it with ctrl+c
[01:45] <tdizzy> whats pastebin?
[01:45] <tdizzy> lol
[01:45] <LjL> !pastebin | tdizzy
[01:45] <ubotu> tdizzy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <usr13> simplechat, Ok
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X11-unix/X0': Operation not permitted
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> rml: cannot remove `/tmp/.X0-lock': Operation not permitted
[01:45] <Photocopy> Anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs?
[01:45] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: why?
[01:45] <sinizzl> tdizzy: dunno. it has something to do with squirrels i think
[01:46] <anathematic> LjL: ahh yeah, so i've started it with & at the end
[01:46] <anathematic> and it seems fine
[01:46] <LjL> anathematic: ... no
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: what u mean, why ?
[01:46] <sky1> I need to extend the partition of my hard disk, I am using a dual bootup with Ubuntu and Vista, which tools should I use
[01:46] <anathematic> mm?
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: look at the error it gave me
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: thats your command
[01:46] <anathematic> LjL, what should I had done then?
[01:46] <LjL> anathematic: you *need* to be able to start it with  sudo invoke-rc.d start . you *don't* want to start it manually. especially, it makes *no* sense to start it with &.
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: i certainly hope u did not do it as root
[01:46] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: nop wasnt as root
[01:46] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that thing i just gave only affects xfce4-session
[01:47] <usr13> simplechat, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   /media/etc/X11/    (if the / partition is really mounted at /media )
[01:47] <tdizzy> where do i find the grub lst file? the ubuntu partition?
[01:47] <LjL> anathematic: so now kill the one you've started, and start it with  invoke-rc.d cron start , and see if syslog still gives error
[01:47] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: no. it affict something else too
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: naturally it will complain while doing rm -rf /tmp/ for not all of the files/dirs belong to ur user
[01:47] <LjL> tdizzy: yes, in the ubuntu partition, in the /boot/grub directory
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: that is ?
[01:47] <fliegenderfrosch> tdizzy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:47] <ben_> I just found out I've got a PCI card reader built into my laptop. On XP, when I insert my SD camera card, it automatically mounts it as a generic volunme. Is this hardware supported on ubuntu, and if so how would I go about mounting it?
[01:47] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: KDE & Gnome configuration
[01:47] <BarryToeman> MikeD_: try http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: gnome stores its config in ~/.gnome ~/.gconf etc.
[01:47] <_Jaak_> Can anyone point me in a direction on how to setup a pptp server to enable clients to acces the internet?
[01:47] <simplechat> usr13, ok, now i've got it back up
[01:47] <simplechat> :)
[01:47] <simplechat> thanks for your help! :)
[01:47] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: ~/.config is basically xfce and a bunch of other programs as well though
[01:47] <jbu311> can anyone hear me?
[01:48] <Mr_Siebel> How do I netstat myself?
[01:48] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: let me reboot and see if that fixes tmhe problem
[01:48] <OleMoudi> MikeD_, use tar with -M to specify multivolume and -L volume size
[01:48] <usr13> simplechat, NP
[01:48] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: dont need to reboot for that, just restart X
[01:48] <Photocopy> If i have a 50GB partition with 20GB of files on it, and i try to partition it into two 25GB partitions will one partition have all the files  still and the other be blank?
[01:48] <simplechat> jbu311, go to a terminal and type netstat
[01:48] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: that what im gonna do, brb
[01:48] <sinizzl> k
[01:48] <usr13> jbu311, We can't hear you but we can see you.
[01:48] <tdizzy> LjL: i put it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39326/
[01:48] <anathematic> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39327/
[01:48] <jbu311> thanks!
[01:48] <usr13> jbu311, Comb your hair!
[01:48] <Pici> Photocopy: You'd have to resize it and add a new partition.
[01:48] <tussey> hey the new version of Flash is out for linux. what is the preferred way of installing this onto my ubuntu system?
[01:49] <jbu311> usr13: it's combed
[01:49] <Photocopy> Pici
[01:49] <usr13> jbu311, Ok, that's better...
[01:49] <Pici> Photocopy
[01:49] <Photocopy> And will that make me lose the files?
[01:49] <sinizzl> tussey: it is ? schweet.
[01:49] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: same thing, im still in trouble :(
[01:49] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: if u launch xfce4-panel from terminal, does it give u any error ?
[01:49] <LjL> anathematic, if the lines from the invoke-rc.d command are the ones starting from 19:42:17, then they seem fine (i suspect the other ones are the ones from when you did  cron -f ).
[01:49] <Pici> Photocopy: It shouldnt. But its no paritioning is 100% flawless.
[01:49] <erisco> does anyone know generally how much speed difference there is at the start of the drive in comparison to the end of the drive?
[01:49] <LjL> anathematic: ps aux | grep cron - if it's running, i think it should be fine.
[01:50] <Photocopy> Pici: Which is better for dualboot, install windows, then ubuntu? or ubuntu, then windows
[01:50] <erisco> is it really more-so negligible?
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: i think the hd0,6 lines need to be hd0,5
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: nop
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: it started them!!
[01:50] <Pici> Photocopy: Windows then Ubuntu
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: but i could be wrong
[01:50] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: did u rm -rf /tmp/ ?
[01:50] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[01:50] <anathematic> LjL: yeah it's up and running fine
[01:50] <anathematic> ty
[01:50] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yep
[01:50] <sky1> Is it ok to use GParted to do my partition from within Ubuntu, will my windows be ok after parition(would be able to use it)
[01:50] <Photocopy> Pici: Good cause windows is already installed.
[01:50] <LjL> erisco: why believe figures that random people give you?
[01:50] <LjL> !info bonnie++ | erisco
[01:50] <ubotu> erisco: bonnie++: Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.03abuild1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 144 kB
[01:50] <tdizzy> mcphail: ok, if i mess it up i can fix it, correct?
[01:50] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: try it like this: rm -rf /tmp/ && rm -rf  ~/.config && kill -9 -1
[01:50] <mcphail> tdizzy: from the livecd, yes
[01:51] <tdizzy> k
[01:51] <erisco> LjL, what are you suggesting?...
[01:51] <vmlinuz`> the rm -rf /tmp/ "gives errors"
[01:51] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: naturally.
[01:51] <Photocopy> Does anyone know of any other distrobutions that ship free CDs? I don't have a burner, so I need to use things line ubuntu's shipit.
[01:51] <LjL> erisco: i'm suggesting that you install bonnie++ and run it. it will tell you which parts of your drive are faster, and by how much.
[01:51] <vmlinuz`> so why my xfce panels arent showing for me
[01:51] <erisco> LjL, even if it isn't all partitioned yet?
[01:52] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: because they're not in your xfce4-session.rc anymore
[01:52] <LjL> erisco: that might be a problem, i don't remember if bonnie can work on unpartitioned space. try.
[01:52] <tussey> does Envice support editing PDFs with fields?
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: I want to configure my xfce4-session with a GUI
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i want that gui that popped on me when i first ran xfce
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: i wrote my own .xsession exactly because of this problem
[01:52] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey, only in gnome 2.20 afaik
[01:52] <erisco> LjL, *shrug*
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: send it to me
[01:52] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: let me try it, at least ebetter than nothing
[01:52] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: xfce4-session insanely alters its configuration in whatever aspect it feels like at the moment
[01:52] <erisco> LjL, I am just worried about installing windows at the end of my drive is all. I don't want it to be sluggish
[01:52] <tussey> what version of GNOME does ubuntu 7.04 have?
[01:53] <erisco> LjL, and it is 200GB drive at that
[01:53] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: are you using gdm/kdm or something like that ?
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i'd like to have my panels
[01:53] <LjL> erisco, even if i told you what the percentage figures are for my drive, would it be applicable to your drive?
[01:53] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: 2.18
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: yea i use one of them, not sure which >_<
[01:53] <Photocopy> Is there any other distrobutions with shipit?
[01:53] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl:  a login screen pops on me on started up
[01:53] <Photocopy> or something similar?
[01:54] <vmlinuz`> i can't u se backspace on this terminal, that sucks >(
[01:54] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: you could use "acroread" with "acroread-plugins"
[01:54] <erisco> LjL, no. However, I understood it as simply logic that the farther the arm has to travel to get the information the longer it is going to take
[01:54] <usr13>  vmlinuz` Get another keyboard.
[01:54] <LjL> erisco: that is true. how important that effect is, however, depends on the drive.
[01:54] <vmlinuz`> usr13: my keyboard is fine, only this terminal is odd.
[01:54] <tussey> thanks I'll give that a try
[01:54] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: doesn't matter. what u have to do is: create a ~/.xsession file that contains all that xfce stuff. tell gdm/kdm whatever to use .xession by selecting 'default session' at login. i can send u an example of my flavor of .xsession (mostly xfce stuff)
[01:55] <erisco> LjL, bonnie++ takes a long time. I am impatient I guess :P
[01:55] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: send pls
[01:55] <theverant> hey - how long should a fsck /dev/sdc1 take if the drive is 500GB?
[01:55] <sky1> how can I use GParted to resize my partition ? I cant unmount within Ubuntu
[01:55] <LjL> erisco: ok: 20% difference.
[01:55] <tussey> how would I go about installing acroread? I didn't find it in SPM
[01:55] <Pici> sky1: Run it from the LiveCD.
[01:55] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i want to send you something
[01:55] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: http://rafb.net/p/DZDqGf80.html <- as u can see there's also non-xfce related stuff in there. just erase those two lines
[01:55] <erisco> LjL, yours is a 20% difference?
[01:55] <LjL> erisco: perhaps 30% if your drive is not running in silent mode.
[01:55] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset?
[01:56] <sky1> Pici:ok
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset command?
[01:56] <LjL> erisco: about it.
[01:56] <BarryToeman> Photocopy: go to distrowatch.com.  Or on-disk.com will mail you distributions for a few dollars each.
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: what command
[01:56] <norgul> hi folks
[01:56] <erisco> LjL, holy crap that is terrible
[01:56] <theverant> I'm having touble booting because of a forced check hanging
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: reset
[01:56] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey, it's available in the medibuntu repo
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: maybe it could rectify your terminal
[01:56] <sinizzl> scguy318: how can u reset xfce4 session? i only know a rather complicated way
[01:56] <norgul> is there a channel where the ubuntu "developers" are?
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: how can i reset
[01:56] <theverant> to a entirely storage drive
[01:56] <mcphail> theverant: be patient
[01:56] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: by typing reset
[01:56] <vmlinuz`> reset
[01:56] <scguy318> sinizzl: what do you mean?
[01:56] <tussey> how do access that? Sorry I'm new to ubuntu
[01:57] <sinizzl> scguy318: nevermind
[01:57] <theverant> mcphail - ok... that's good to know :)  The other drives I did went super quick... I'll just leave it along for a bit though
[01:57] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: he apparently meant something else^^
[01:57] <mcphail> theverant: the fsck can take ages and appear to hang
[01:57] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: is that all your .xsession ?
[01:57] <mcphail> theverant: remember you can turn forced checking off in the future
[01:57] <fliegenderfrosch> tussey: see http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:57] <theverant> mcphail - that is oddly comforting.  I will do that, because this is silly
[01:57] <theverant> I will also backup my drive more often
[01:57] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: it is. comment the two lines that contain 'gnome' and u got exactly teh same thing as a plain xfce session. xfce launches by default xfwm4, xfdesktop && xfce4-panel, that's about it.
[01:58] <theverant> it's been a couple weeks and I have hundreds of pictures on there not backed up yet... :| kinda nerve racking
[01:58] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: xfdesktop has its own settings manager, such as gnome-settings-daemon or whatever that thing's called.
[01:58] <mcphail> theverant: indeed :)
[01:59] <erisco> LjL, I didn't understand the output whatsoever
[01:59] <joshhunt> hello
[01:59] <eg2> Hello, I installed ubuntu right over my win XP. it said it will save my docmuments and some settings.... where is my documents?
[01:59] <sinizzl>  eg2 probably lost in space
[01:59] <joshhunt> !ntfs
[01:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:59] <Flannel> eg2: in your home folder (Places > Home)
[01:59] <cyph3r> anyone know how to open a port for samba from the command line?
[01:59] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: i save them into file called ".xsesson" ?
[02:00] <vmlinuz`> sinizzl: and the numbers included?
[02:00] <erisco> Machine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
[02:00] <erisco> ericLinux        2G 37112  82 46497  20 17781   9 39161  65 44841   6 181.6   1
[02:00] <erisco> that's what I got
[02:00] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: no, the numbers ahve been added by rafb.net
[02:00] <sinizzl> vmlinuz`: it's basically 4 lines
[02:00] <sinizzl> but u need 'exec xfdesktop' at the end. don't know why but withouth the 'exec' it behaves buggy at times.
[02:00] <LjL> erisco: the package is bonnie++, but the program from it that you want to use is zcav, "man zcav"
[02:00] <eg2> Flannel: i can only see a shortcut to examples and a desktop icon there.
[02:00] <erisco> LjL, that is what bonnie told me
[02:01] <erisco> LjL, is it suggesting that I can write 37MB/sec to the start and only 0.2MB/s to the end??
[02:01] <LjL> erisco: yeah but that doesn't say anything about the speeds of the various zones of your harddrive. you run zcav for that.
[02:01] <LjL> erisco: no, nothing of the sort
[02:03] <decay> Anyone can help me with twinview modes? I think metamodes is the problem
[02:03] <Flannel> eg2: I believe the migration thing puts stuff there.  I might be wrong though.  Did you check the "My Documents" when given the chance in the installer?
[02:03] <eg2> i checked something that it should save my documents from win xp
[02:03] <cyph3r> quit
[02:04] <eg2> can't recall the exact frase in installation
[02:04] <LjL> erisco: perhaps you want to use the -c option to use a block size larger than the default 100 megabytes, with such a large drive. if you try 1 gigabyte, i'll do the same on my machine and we can compare the results.
[02:04] <erisco> LjL, I cannot seem to get zcav to do anything
[02:04] <eg2> oh, btw. there is a channel for ubuntu where i can discuss compiz fusion and stuff. whats the channel name?
[02:04] <Flannel> eg2: Right,  http://www.michaellarabel.com/external/migration-assistant-2.png  And you did check the "my documents"?
[02:04] <LjL> erisco, it needs sudo.
[02:04] <Flannel> eg2: #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <erisco> Ljl, sudo zcav - -b 1000M    ?
[02:05] <LjL> erisco:  sudo zcav -b 1000M /dev/hda  (assuming /dev/hda is your drive)
[02:05] <eg2> Flannel: where it says michael microsoft windows xp bla bla, i just checked michael. didn't notice there was a dropdown menu. but if i checked it, it must have checked all the stuff, right?
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, mine is sda I believe. what changes the h to an s? I dunno
[02:06] <LjL> erisco: obviously, you should run it with as little disk load as possible (i.e. don't copy 4gb files while running it ;)
[02:06] <Semidios> okay, so I am still having problems getting my Ubuntu NFS share to work on my Mac.  I am connected to the share.  If I drag and drop files it says I do not have sufficient permissions.  however if I cp files using command line everything works fine.  Hope someone can help..
[02:06] <LjL> erisco: being SATA rather than IDE, most likely.
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, just have chat running
[02:06] <erisco> LjL, ah yes I believe it is a SATA
[02:06] <Flannel> eg2: I have no idea.  What that might've done is made a user with that name, which is where your stuff is (different than the user youre on currently)
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, so since I am doing 100gig blocks it will do this 200 times?
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: yes (1 gig, not 100 gig)
[02:07] <orin> So, Gutsy will come out soon. Will it break a lot of stuff with AppArmor?
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: if you had partitions on it, you could test the single partitions and make it quicker.
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, yes, 1 gig hehe. What? you didn't think I had a 2TB drive?
[02:07] <Flannel> orin: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions, thanks.
[02:07] <LjL> erisco: ;)
[02:07] <erisco> LjL, I will be here all night with only 1gb blocks
[02:08] <searayman> can somone help me with usign webrunner?
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, I am only on 8
[02:08] <LjL> erisco, i'm on 6. but even if we increase the block size, i doubt it will take any shorter.
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, all I want is the start of the drive then the end of the drive
[02:08] <eg2> Flannel: damnit. is it possible to recover the files in it? i had some vacation pictures in it that i dont want to loose!
[02:08] <joshhunt> so i just installed the beta of ubuntu 7.10 and the updater tool thing pops up and tells me that i have a mountain load of updates to do. when the updater opens up, it tells me "Not all updates can be installed. Run a partial update, to install as many possilbe" etc, it then lists reasons why thawt might be the case
[02:08] <erisco> LjL, I just want a smooth general line between the two
[02:09] <LjL> erisco: unfortunately that isn't possible unless you first create two partitions, one at the start and one at the end
[02:09] <erisco> LjL, I have a 120GB partition at the end
[02:09] <LjL> erisco: still a bit big
[02:09] <Mr_Siebel> How do I open my iptables?
[02:09] <erisco> LjL, and I still cannot figure out how to get windows to use that free unpartitioned space
[02:09] <joshhunt> when i go to do the partial update, it brings up a disto upgrade box, and starts doing that... should i go throgh with that or apply the updates the normal way
[02:09] <searayman> can somoen help me with usign webrunner, i cont figure it out
[02:10] <LjL> erisco, i don't know about that
[02:10] <Pelo> joshhunt, gutsy is still in beta , so unless you want the beta don'T upgrade the distro yet
[02:10] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:11] <joshhunt> okies, thanks
[02:11] <LjL> erisco: let me see if we can use a trick with 'dd' instead
[02:11] <erisco> LjL, I am depressed because if it is impossible I have to reformat entirely again
[02:11] <joshhunt> so the distro upgrade will 'downgrade' it to 7.04?
[02:12] <Pelo> joshhunt,  the distro upgrade will upgrade to gutsy
[02:12] <amio> no one knows?
[02:12] <mguezuraga> I have a amd x2 4400, with 2 gb of RAM, basic services started, and gnome takes "a lot of time" to draw the desktop and finish loading. What can cause this? (ubuntu 64 bits)
[02:12] <joshhunt> but ive already got gutsy
[02:12] <joshhunt> the beta of it
[02:12] <Pelo> joshhunt, if you are already running one of the gutsy alphas ( tribes)  I guess you will get upgraded to the latest beta but you should ask in #ubuntu+1 about that
[02:13] <searayman> can somoen help me with webrunner?
[02:13] <erisco> LjL, any luck
[02:13] <joshhunt> no, im pretty sure ive got the beta
[02:13] <enigma_ew> hi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...
[02:13] <LjL> erisco: i'm reading the man, but yes, i think so
[02:13] <joshhunt> ill ask in #ubuntu+1 then...
[02:13] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:13] <Pelo> amio, check in synaptic
[02:13] <acid-trip> mysqltcl 3.03 <-- does anyone know when that is gonna be released into packages?
[02:14] <amio> Pelo but in synaptic which program already downloaded few but not editors
[02:14] <Pelo> acid-trip, if it is a different version ( as oppose to an update) with the next distro
[02:14] <acid-trip> :/
[02:14] <Flannel> acid-trip: It'll be in Hardy
[02:14] <Flannel> or, should be.
[02:15] <Pelo> amio, that's all i have for you , try checking on www.getdeb.net
[02:15] <acid-trip> i wonder if i could build it from source
[02:15] <docko> i just added a new user to my FF ubuntu server and i disabled user root, but it didn't create new user's home directory and sudo does absolutely nothing.... what can i do now? i have only ssh access to the server
[02:15] <acid-trip> i need it for one of my tcl scripts
[02:15] <Pelo> acid-trip, then go ahead and build it ,  just google for the source
[02:15] <Flannel> acid-trip: ACtually, it's already in feisty.
[02:15] <erisco> LjL, I am on 33 and the results are still the same
[02:16] <joshhunt> how can i check for what version im running?
[02:16] <_Roman> I have an ssh connection from one ubuntu machine to another with X forwarding enabled.  Is it possible to send a window that is running on the remote machine to my local machine (this is a window/process that is already running on the remote machine)
[02:16] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10           <- to see how fast the *beginning* of the drive is (reads 1Gb of data)
[02:16] <Pelo> joshhunt,  the first tab of the system monitor in the admin menu
[02:16] <joshhunt> of ubuntu via cli?
[02:16] <Flannel> joshhunt: lsb_release -a
[02:16] <usr13> joseaa, lsb_release -a
[02:16] <amio> is there any good tool to edit pdf or even to convert pdf to an open office format but not pdf editor or kword ??
[02:17] <usr13> sorry that was for joshhunt  not joseaa
[02:17] <enigma_ew> hi all, i have an ATI x1250 on board graphics card... i try to run compiz fusion but i cant :( how can I run compiz or berly with ATI x1250??  thanks...
[02:17] <Flannel> acid-trip: No, I guess it's not.  Date of update is wrong. but, 02 to 03 is a bugfix, you should talk to the package maintainer, and get it updated.
[02:17] <joshhunt> thanks XD
[02:17] <Pelo> enigma_ew, ask in #compis-fusion or in #ubuntu-effects
[02:17] <acid-trip> ...
[02:17] <acid-trip> Flannel, how do i find out who the manager is
[02:17] <acid-trip> :/
[02:18] <enigma_ew> Pelo: THNX
[02:18] <eg2> how do i get youtube videos to work in firefox?
[02:18] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 seek=1800   <- to see how fast the *end* of the drive is (the "1800" is for "start after 100mb*1800", which should be around 180gb -- i'm not making that 200, because i suppose that is the size in decimal gigabytes)
[02:18] <Pelo> !flash | eg2
[02:18] <ubotu> eg2: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:18] <shk> does the update manager delete the old versions of the things it updates?  or is my hard drive slowly dwindling away?
[02:18] <erisco> LjL, 17.6s
[02:18] <Pelo> shk, deleted
[02:18] <acid-trip> !mysqltcl
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqltcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <erisco> LjL, sorry, 17.4
[02:18] <shk> Pelo, is there any other maintenance i should be doing?
[02:18] <Pelo> !info mysqltcl | acid-trip
[02:18] <ubotu> acid-trip: mysqltcl: Interface to the MySQL database for the Tcl language. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.02-1 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 116 kB
[02:19] <shk> defrag, clearing temp files, etc ?
[02:19] <orangefly> i was accessing a windows machine just fine until i plugged it in instead of wireless....can anyone help....???....
[02:19] <LjL> erisco: sorry that last command is wrong
[02:19] <usr13> shk, No, just enjoy.
[02:19] <amio> any one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)
[02:19] <searayman> webrunner help anyoen i am stuck......
[02:19] <Flannel> acid-trip: It's in the package details (in synaptic) or apt-cache show [package] 
[02:19] <Pelo> shk,  sudo apt-get autoclean    and also check in synaptic,  use the status display(lower left) to see if there are any packages that you can safely remove
[02:19] <erisco> LjL, it gave me 17.5s anyways
[02:20] <wastrel> is there a better terminal for mac os than er
[02:20] <shk> ok thank you
[02:20] <usr13> shk, Linux  pretty much takes care of itself
[02:20] <Pelo> amio,  did you check in getdeb.net ?
[02:20] <erisco> LjL, how do I correct that last one
[02:20] <wastrel> "terminal"
[02:20] <LjL> erisco: yeah but it's still checking the *beginning* of the drive again, so it's unsurprising it gives about the same value
[02:20] <shk> i just feel bad not doing anything
[02:20] <shk> i feel like i should be checking something
[02:20] <shk> keeping it clean
[02:20] <shk> etx
[02:20] <amio> Pelo nothing there is only pdfeditor and Ihave it it doesnt work good
[02:20] <LjL> erisco: time sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=100M count=10 skip=1800      <--- skip not seek
[02:20] <LjL> this should be it
[02:20] <wastrel> pdfedit
[02:20] <Pelo> shk,   you need the #windows-withdrawl channel
[02:20] <acid-trip> Flannel, how hard is it to take a source and make a quick deb out of it?
[02:21] <shk> lmao
[02:21] <usr13> shk  You're experiencing the freedom we talk about when we brag about Linux.
[02:21] <shk> i suppose i am
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, HOLY ****
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, 30.9s
[02:21] <usr13> Pelo, ha ha... yea prolly so...
[02:21] <shk> but surely defragmenting is necessary?
[02:21] <LjL> erisco: some difference, you see.
[02:21] <shk> for any hard drive...
[02:21] <erisco> LjL, that is almost double
[02:21] <Pelo> shk,   no defrag needed in ext3
[02:21] <usr13> shk, No, do fragmentation either.
[02:22] <LjL> erisco: although, i cannot guarantee that there aren't any 'dd' artifacts at work there. it'd really be better to spend the time with zcav, to be sure.
[02:22] <usr13> shk, No, fragmentation either.
[02:22] <Pelo> shk,   you can actualy enjoy your computer now ,  just go with it
[02:22] <shk> haha
[02:22] <shk> incredible :o
[02:22] <tdizzy> when im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?
[02:22] <usr13> shk, Just enjoy the ride.
[02:22] <Pelo> shk,  if you realy want to do something you cna install fancontrol , and stuff like that   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:23] <shk> nah, i use a laptop
[02:23] <Pelo> shk,  basicaly  ....  don't worry,  be happy
[02:23] <shk> kinda excessive
[02:23] <shk> :D
[02:23] <shk> fantastic.
[02:23] <shk> where do i pay?
[02:23] <shk> :P
[02:23] <usr13> Just use my paypal account  :)
[02:24] <Pelo> shk,  no need for that either but you can send donations on the site, or to any linux or FOSS  org you want
[02:24] <shk> wonderful
[02:24] <davidthedrake> Occasionally my computer becomes unresponsive - that is to say I can move the mouse around but cannot interact with anything open on the desktop. It appears happen randomly for no particular reason. Has anyone else experienced this and/or heard of a solution for this?
[02:24] <shk> thanks again guys
[02:24] <usr13> shk,  Yes, seriously, you can donate to any of your favorite projects.
[02:24] <tdizzy> when im trying to boot my ubuntu partition, it keeps giving me various errors that tell me the permissions aren't as they're supposed to be. is there any way to set this back to the default?
[02:24] <usr13> but that's optional.
[02:24] <davidthedrake> Oh, and it unfreezes after about 15-30 seconds.
[02:24] <scguy318> tdizzy: wut errors specifically?
[02:25] <unagi> anyone here use maya?
[02:25] <Pelo> davidthedrake,  several ppl have mentionned something likethat,  I've experienced similar on rare occasion , usualy FF related
[02:25] <varustah> ubuntu is my love
[02:25] <LjL> erisco: on my drive, which is 160gb, i get 18 seconds for the first gb, and 34 seconds for the 150th gigabyte
[02:25] <abatshy> hi
[02:25] <joshhunt> !pastebuckey
[02:25] <rav> Can anyone help me, im looking for a update for my VGA driver. But i cannot tell what VGA i have, here is the pastebin http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebuckey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <joshhunt> !pastebucket
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebucket - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <abatshy> hi every 1
[02:25] <joshhunt> !paste
[02:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <davidthedrake> Pelo, a friend of mine reported that switching from the 64-bit install to the 32-bit install stopped this behavior, are you running 64-bit?
[02:26] <erisco> LjL, I'll kill windows if I put it at the end. that is what I know now anyways
[02:26] <amio> any one knows agood pdf editor or converter to doc format? (not pdfeditor or kword though)
[02:26] <Pelo> rav, why do you think you need to update your vga driver ?
[02:26] <wastrel> amio: no such thing.
[02:26] <acid-trip> Flannel, can u answer me?
[02:26] <erisco> LjL, well thanks for your help
[02:26] <vmlinuz`> is KDE stable for ubuntu?
[02:26] <abatshy> hu
[02:26] <abatshy> hi
[02:26] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, Yes
[02:27] <Pelo> davidthedrake,  no ,  x86, in my case I'm fairly certain it's ff related and it is very rare, so I don'T fret about it
[02:27] <cafuego> vmlinuz`: As stable as for any other distro, sure.
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: Thanks.
[02:27] <varustah> pdfcreator
[02:27] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, There is even kubuntu which is a version with KDE by default instead of Gnome
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> but whats the default WM for ubuntu?
[02:27] <tdizzy> well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.
[02:27] <rav> because, i was speaking with some gents in winehq channel, and im having a problem with my warcraft III installation, and he said i should update my VGA
[02:27] <LjL> erisco: one thing, remember that this is *linear* reading speed
[02:27] <LjL> erisco: i.e. we're reading contiguous bytes
[02:27] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, Gnome, but there is also Kubuntu and Xubuntu ( KDE and XFCE )
[02:27] <RedEyess> Hi
[02:27] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: a whole distro just to make KDE default? Doesn't make sens >_<
[02:28] <RedEyess> I have a laptop with SATA
[02:28] <davidthedrake> Pelo, rgr that. Yea, it seems to be a fairly frequent thing for me. I noticed that updating to the latest kernel build did make it happen less frequently, but it still occurs nonetheless. I guess I will search elsewhere for a solution. Thanks though ;)
[02:28] <searayman> web runner anyone?
[02:28] <cafuego> vmlinuz`: Metacity actually, which is the Gnome wm.
[02:28] <erisco> LjL, so real read time is obviously worse
[02:28] <RedEyess> how do I get the hard drive to be faster?
[02:28] <decay> if i 'upgrade' to the beta, will i lose files in my ~ dir?
[02:28] <LjL> erisco: if we were jumping around (which is what really happens, mostly, when you use a disk "for real"), we would probably see much less difference, since much - probably most - of the time would be spent in seeking
[02:28] <wastrel> amio: /win 4
[02:28] <Pelo> rav, what release are you running ?
[02:28] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, It also uses QT apps by default
[02:28] <wastrel> nvm
[02:28] <cafuego> RedEyess: linera accelerator or rail gun
[02:28] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: whats QT?
[02:28] <LjL> erisco: yes, read read time is worse, but the difference between beginning and end is lesser
[02:28] <Pelo> davidthedrake, in your shoes I would give the forum a quick search
[02:28] <rav> Ubuntu fiesty
[02:28] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, It's not really a different distro, just a different set of default applications
[02:28] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: ah ok
[02:29] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: will be a Kubuntu in the new UBUNTU?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, No
[02:29] <vmlinuz`> Jordan_U: why
[02:29] <cafuego> RedEyess: In other words: you can't really make disks be faster. You could buy a faster disk or use raid
[02:29] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: of course
[02:29] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: well, lemme check
[02:29] <Pelo> rav, I honestly don'T know how you would go about changing the vga driver , all that needs updating should have been
[02:30] <RedEyess> ok
[02:30] <Jordan_U> vmlinuz`, There are no plans to make KDE default at the moment
[02:30] <Pelo> rav,  try doing a search in the www.ubuntufourms.org
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: well, theres gonna be a nice Kubuntu 7.10
[02:30] <Pelo> www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: but KDE default won't be happening
[02:30] <scguy318> vmlinuz`: in Ubuntu
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:37] <cafuego> Linus says it's the law!
[02:37] <RedEyess> i install Ubuntu previously
[02:37] <RedEyess> 7.04
[02:37] <amio> wastrel how to get that?
[02:37] <tdizzy> scguy318: well the first one i got said something about the home directory not being writeable; fixed that; now it says something about $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored...file should be owned by user...$HOME directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users.
[02:37] <RedEyess> and it was working fast
[02:37] <rav> can you look at my glxinfo and tell me what vga i got?
[02:37] <Flannel> acid-trip: To make a personal deb, use checkinstall.
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: ok thanks.
[02:37] <Flannel> !checkinstall | acid-trip
[02:37] <ubotu> acid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:37] <RedEyess> now that I have reinstalled for some reason it is much slower
[02:37] <RedEyess> after two reinstalls
[02:37] <RedEyess> could it be an IO problem
[02:37] <acid-trip> i want mysqltcl3.03
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> thing is "I'm now in KDE" and CS freezes quiet alot in kde.. in gnome it never happens >_<
[02:37] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Why was your home directory not owned by you?
[02:37] <tdizzy> idk...
[02:37] <rav> http://rafb.net/p/0iz22M48.html
[02:37] <tdizzy> umm
[02:37] <tdizzy> i accidently deleted and restored the partition
[02:37] <scguy318> !checkinstall | acid-trip
[02:37] <tdizzy> and fixed the GRUB
[02:37] <scguy318> tdizzy: chmod 0777 your home?
[02:37] <ubotu> acid-trip: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:37] <usr13> Red_Tide, Show us your partition scheme.
[02:37] <tdizzy> and upon the first boot after that i got that error
[02:37] <tdizzy> umm from what?
[02:37] <`DayWalker> i install windows vista ... after installing vista Ubuntu option is gone hide ...what should i do ?
[02:37] <usr13> RedEyess, , Show us your partition scheme.
[02:37] <Pelo> !enter | RedEyess
[02:37] <ubotu> RedEyess: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:37] <Pelo> !grub |
[02:37] <Pelo> !grub | `DayWalker
[02:37] <Pelo> ubotu,  on a break again ?
[02:37] <usr13> RedEyess, Paste it to pastebin
[02:37] <acid-trip> [02:37] <acid-trip> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:37] <brigan> what was that doc bar again
[02:37] <vmlinuz`> scguy318: do you think CSS freez alot cuz im in KDE?
[02:37] <scguy318> maybe the IRC server is
[02:37] <scguy318> i cant seem to whois
[02:37] <acid-trip> heh
[02:37] <acid-trip> checkinstall wont make me the package
[02:37] <acid-trip> :/
[02:41] <LjL> !netsplit
[02:41] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[02:41] <acid-trip> wb
[02:42] <wastrel> hi
[02:42] <acid-trip> Flannel, so any ideas?
[02:42] <acid-trip> checkinstall fails
[02:42] <usr13> RedEyess, If you've sent the link once, sorry, I missed it.  Please send again.
[02:43] <wa77ss> how can i make vlc the default application for all media files without right clicking every different file type?
[02:43] <RedEyess> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39333/
[02:44] <wa77ss> anyone know?
[02:44] <tdizzy> Jordan_U: i got the same error when i tried to boot again...
[02:44] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Did you run "chmod -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername" ?
[02:45] <tdizzy> yeah
[02:45] <tdizzy> hmm
[02:45] <tdizzy> not chmod
[02:45] <wa77ss> hello?
[02:45] <tdizzy> i ran chown
[02:45] <tdizzy> lol
[02:45] <tdizzy> oops
[02:45] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Sorry, it should be chown
[02:45] <wastrel> zom
[02:45] <wastrel> g
[02:45] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, You ran the correct command if you ran chown
[02:45] <tdizzy> oh ok
[02:45] <usr13> wa77ss, Go to one of the files in the file manager, right click on it, click properties and change the default application used to open the file.
[02:46] <unagi> how can i run archive manager with root access?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, can you pastebin the exact error again ( can't scroll up because of the netsplit :)
[02:46] <unagi> i would like to extract files in a restricted folder =/
[02:46] <wa77ss> usr13, ya, but i have to do that with every single different file type
[02:46] <astro76> unagi, gksudo file-roller
[02:46] <wa77ss> isnt there a simple way for ALL media files
[02:46] <tdizzy> ok
[02:47] <tdizzy> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <unagi> ty
[02:47] <Jordan_U> wa77ss, What are you trying to do?
[02:47] <tdizzy> lol
[02:47] <unagi> how can i set file-roller to use gksudo every time i open an archive?
[02:47] <wa77ss> just make vlc default audio/video player for all file types
[02:47] <taime1> can someone help mecan anyone help me get my sound working?
[02:47] <RedEyess> I will be back in 5
[02:48] <HealthyElijah> i know
[02:48] <tim167> taime1, in which program ?
[02:48] <wa77ss> i thought there would be a simple way, i dont want to right click on every different file type you know
[02:48] <Jordan_U> unagi, I wouldn't make it do that every time, but in the "open with" properties add the custom command "gksudo file-roller"
[02:48] <taime1> tim167: i have no sound at all...
[02:49] <taime1> ubuntu refuses to recognize this sound card
[02:49] <umop-apisdn> anyone familiar with remote x servers? i'm running xming on my windows box, and want to run firefox on the linux box to remove the possiblity of exploits
[02:49] <Jordan_U> wa77ss, There is a way to do that, forget how though.
[02:49] <wa77ss> ahah i think i came across it
[02:49] <wa77ss> a script, but it doesnt work for me
[02:49] <acid-trip> :/
[02:49] <acid-trip> piss me of
[02:49] <acid-trip> 8Off
[02:49] <Hubris2> Trying to get MSN messenger going through Moblock is driving me nuts.  I can connect (using Pidgin) only if I choose 'http', and then all outgoing messages fail.  What ports are needed?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, ssh -X ?
[02:49] <acid-trip> can't get this thing to work
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: i'm using putty for the ssh
[02:50] <tim167> taime1 what does 'lspci | grep audio' say ?
[02:50] <wa77ss> maybe you can figure out how to make it work, heres the link - http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=40560
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> supposedly, i can export DISPLAY=(local ip):0 and make it work
[02:50] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, That is not secure
[02:50] <usr13> wa77ss, No,   you do it for each file type.
[02:50] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: why not? (not attacking, seeking info)
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:51] <FFighter> hey folks
[02:51] <tim167> taime1, can you run alsamixer ?
[02:51] <usr13> Hey FFighter
[02:51] <wa77ss> usr13, kk, thats the hard way but it works. thanks
[02:51] <FFighter> something like autohotkey for linux?
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: nope
[02:51] <taime1> tim167: says no device
[02:51] <FFighter> autohotkey is really handy and flexible
[02:52] <Pelo> FFighter, check in synaptic
[02:52] <acid-trip> checking for correct TEA configuration... ok (TEA 3.5)
[02:52] <acid-trip> checking for Tcl configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tcl configuration definitions
[02:52] <FFighter> Pelo, for what?
[02:52] <taime1> tim167: also, my modules WERE loaded, then after some tinkering, they disappeared
[02:52] <tdizzy> Jordan_U: k got both error messages
[02:52] <Pelo> FFighter,  hotkey
[02:52] <FFighter> Pelo, hmmm is it a port?
[02:52] <tdizzy> Jordan_U: first i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[02:52] <acid-trip> anyway to define where the tcl config files are?
[02:52] <wastrel> autohotkey
[02:52] <Pelo> FFighter, I'm not sayingthere is anything,  just do a search for hotkey and see what is available if anything
[02:53] <tim167> taime1, hmm sorry I dont really know then...
[02:53] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, http://meshier.com/docs/oreilly/tcpip2/ssh/ch09_03.htm
[02:53] <FFighter> Pelo, nothing
[02:53] <lucashungaro> Can I open a .rar file compressed in Windows with Ubuntu? I'm getting an error.
[02:53] <FFighter> Pelo, do you know autohotkey?
[02:54] <Hubris2> Anyone have experince getting MSN(Pidgin/Gaim) going through firewalls in general?
[02:54] <alex116> is there a channel dedicated to using linux as a router?
[02:54] <usr13> lucashungaro, Yes
[02:54] <Pelo> FFighter, a linux equivalent may not have the same name,  just seach for hotkey and read the definitions
[02:54] <taime1> why doesnt alsa recognize my sound card??
[02:54] <astro76> lucashungaro, install unrar, then the archive manager can handle it
[02:54] <RedEyess> usr13: any thoughts?
[02:54] <Hubris2> lucashungaro: Archive Manager can open .rar
[02:54] <FFighter> Pelo, yes I know but nothing relevant cam
[02:54] <FFighter> came
[02:54] <FFighter> anyway
[02:54] <FFighter> thanks
[02:54] <Pelo> FFighter, also try  www.getdeb.net
[02:55] <lucashungaro> It's saying that it's an unsupported package type
[02:55] <Pelo> taime1,  look up your soundcard model in the forum and in here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport    www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:55] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: my linux machine will be the router/gateway for my LAN, so i don't think that's an issue
[02:55] <umop-apisdn> Jordan_U: but thank you very much for the info
[02:56] <usr13> lucashungaro, apt-get install unrar
[02:56] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, OK, now try running this ( it really is supposed to be chmod this time ) "chmod 644 /home/yourusername/.dmrc"
[02:56] <Pelo> alex116, try in #networking
[02:56] <lucashungaro> Ok, I'm installing unrar with Synaptic
[02:56] <RedEyess> I have a new laptop
[02:56] <lucashungaro> usr13: Thanks
[02:56] <usr13> RedEyess, I don't see any swap partitions for one thing.  How much memory does your system have?
[02:56] <RedEyess> 1.5 gigs
[02:57] <RedEyess> there should a swap drive partition
[02:57] <Jordan_U> umop-apisdn, The easiest thing to do would probably be to open an xterm and just run "ssh -X username@ip"
[02:57] <lucashungaro> How can I write files into my Windows partition?
[02:57] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | lucashungaro
[02:57] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | lucashungaro
[02:57] <ubotu> lucashungaro: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:57] <RedEyess> huh
[02:57] <RedEyess> it's on /dev/sda5
[02:57] <usr13> RedEyess, You say you have installed 2 times now?
[02:57] <lucashungaro> Ok, thank you very much guys
[02:57] <tim167> taime1: there is also an #alsa channel...
[02:57] <leladia> pls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`
[02:57] <RedEyess> 3 times
[02:58] <RedEyess> how do I mount the swap drive then?
[02:58] <Pelo> RedEyess, did you let the installer do the partitionnning or did you do it manualy ?
[02:58] <RedEyess> do I put that in /etc/fsab
[02:58] <RedEyess> manually
[02:58] <RedEyess> yes, I am a fool!
[02:58] <leladia> pls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`
[02:58] <Pelo> RedEyess, not a fool just uninformed
[02:58] <tdizzy> Jordan_U: i ran that command but i get the very same error
[02:58] <h1st0> RedEyess: why isn't your swap mounted?
[02:58] <RedEyess> not sure
[02:58] <coreyo> does anyone have a successful mod-mon + apache set up using the feisty packages?  I'm having the following problem: http://monoport.com/4884
[02:59] <Hubris2> Anyone ever fought with a firewall and getting MSN to connect?  I can connect, but get 'connection refused' on all outgoing messages
[02:59] <lostwrx> irc://irc.abjects.net/045
[02:59] <thesaint4444> LjL: any idea why i should not be able to ssh into my box after adding my drive to the fstab and rebooting?
[02:59] <RedEyess> how do I set this up at this point without a reinstall?
[02:59] <h1st0> RedEyess: are you sure that it isn't?
[02:59] <Pelo> h1st0,  cause he didn't make one
[02:59] <h1st0> !fstab > RedEyess
[02:59] <h1st0> !mount > RedEyess
[02:59] <Flannel> !swap | RedEyess
[02:59] <ubotu> RedEyess: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:59] <leladia> pls can i do this: lastcomm grep $user | grep `date`
[02:59] <Flannel> That's what you really want.
[02:59] <RedEyess> right
[02:59] <usr13> RedEyess, You issued command   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda6  when you should have issued command    fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:59] <Pelo> leladia, why don'T you just try it out and see if it works
[02:59] <h1st0> leladia: sure why note
[03:00] <RedEyess> ok
[03:00] <RedEyess> let me try again
[03:00] <leladia> i have tried it out but i get some error messages at the beginning before the final output
[03:00] <usr13> RedEyess, You installed 2 times now?   Why?  What happened the first time?
[03:00] <Pelo> RedEyess, for the simple way I suggest you install and use the guided partitionning
[03:00] <leladia> which shows that the command is not too alright
[03:00] <LjL> thesaint4444: because you messed up the fstab format and the system didn't boot? because you mounted it on /home without having copied the contents of /home there first?
[03:00] <leladia> i just want to knw what i am missing out
[03:01] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I completely remove apache and apache2 from my system?
[03:01] <RedEyess> repasted.
[03:01] <leladia> or what other way i could write it to stop the error messages at the beginning
[03:01] <RedEyess> please refresh
[03:01] <usr13> RedEyess, Oh, I see,  /dev/sda5  is swap  (sorry, didn't see that before.)
[03:02] <leladia> h1st0: pls can u help me out?
[03:02] <h1st0> leladia: shouldn't it be lastcomm | grep $user | grep $date
[03:02] <RedEyess> however, swap is showing in my /etc/fstab file
[03:03] <leladia> let me try that and see
[03:03] <h1st0> leladia: you forgot the first |
[03:03] <thesaint4444> LjL: hi, no I just tried to mount one of the other drives, i partioned it, formated it, made a directory called /data1, edited the fstab to /dev/sdb1 /data1 auto 1 2 and then rebooted..
[03:03] <h1st0> leladia: and grep `date` or whatever4 you were trying.
[03:03] <RickX> dul boot question: I'd like to install Ubuntu in dual boot to test it out. How do I keep it from overwriting my present Grub?
[03:03] <RedEyess> so this should be explaining my slow times
[03:03] <imperfect-> Jesus
[03:03] <imperfect-> why is this so hard
[03:03] <imperfect-> What's it take to get apache2.conf written from a deb?
[03:03] <thesaint4444> LjL: cant ssh in now even though the port pings...
[03:03] <imperfect-> apt-get install apache2 doesn't install it
[03:03] <imperfect-> so wtf
[03:03] <LjL> thesaint4444: that fstab line is missing a column
[03:03] <RedEyess> doesn't install wwhat?
[03:04] <jrib> imperfect-: dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   will tell you why
[03:04] <astro76> RedEyess, type 'free', do you see swap there? swap is not mounted like other filesystems
[03:04] <h1st0> !info apache2 | imperfect-
[03:04] <ubotu> imperfect-: apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu0.1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:04] <leladia> h1st0: i am using csh and $date is not valid
[03:04] <astro76> RedEyess, it's in fstab, but it doesn't show up when you type mount
[03:04] <imperfect-> jrib: that package is already installed
[03:04] <imperfect-> jrib: and yet, no file
[03:04] <jrib> imperfect-: purge it and install it again
[03:04] <RedEyess> astro76: swap is shown when i type 'free'
[03:05] <astro76> RedEyess, then your swap is fine
[03:05] <h1st0> leladia: no go back to the way where tyring to do it with `date`  but you were forgetting the first | after lastcom
[03:05] <usr13> RedEyess, dmesg |grep swap
[03:05] <h1st0> imperfect-: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[03:05] <h1st0> imperfect-: sudo apt-get install apache2
[03:05] <Hubris2> Anyone familiar with Moblock useage?
[03:05] <leladia> h1st0: okay
[03:06] <thesaint4444> LjL: /dev/sdb1       /data   ext2    defaults        1 2 - thats what i used...
[03:06] <RedEyess> usr13: posted again
[03:06] <thesaint4444> LjL - think thats ok?
[03:06] <leladia> h1st0: it didn't work
[03:06] <LjL> thesaint4444: ah that's better, yes... i can't understand why it wouldn't boot. that says /data though, you said the directory was /data1?
[03:07] <LjL> thesaint4444: (besides, why aren't you using ext3?)
[03:07] <thev> are there any programs for syncing up directories?
[03:07] <h1st0> leladia: okay try it one part at a time.
[03:07] <usr13> RedEyess, Send link.
[03:07] <h1st0> leladia: lastcomm | grep $user
[03:07] <Jordan_U> thev, rsync
[03:07] <h1st0> leladia: see if you get coutput
[03:07] <thesaint4444> LJL: yeah data1 sorry i mistyped...
[03:07] <RedEyess> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/
[03:07] <thev> Thanks Jordan_U - I'll check it out
[03:07] <thesaint4444> LjL: yeah i used ext3 aswell...
[03:07] <LjL> thesaint4444: you had formatted the partition of course?
[03:08] <RedEyess> the wierd thing that once I am logged in, after 5 minutes, the response time is alot better
[03:08] <thesaint4444> LjL: yes..
[03:08] <LjL> thesaint4444: i really don't know, it looks fine to me
[03:08] <unagi> can someone goto unreal.com and tell me if it loads for you
[03:08] <unagi> all i get is a white block on a black background and i cant figure out why
[03:09] <usr13> RedEyess, Everything looks ok, far as I can tell.
[03:09] <RedEyess> hmmm
[03:09] <thesaint4444> LjL: partioned then formated ...
[03:09] <JuJuBee_> Anybody use squid here?
[03:09] <RedEyess> so could it be something to do with a SATA drive under Ubuntu?
[03:09] <Jordan_U> tdizzy, Try this just as a stab in the dark, in recovery mode run "touch /forcefsck" then reboot and it should run an fsck ( disk check / repair ) when you boot again, then try logging in again
[03:09] <RedEyess> I have used squid before
[03:09] <LjL> !nickspam | st33med
[03:09] <ubotu> st33med: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:09] <thesaint4444> LjL: box pings but i cant ssh in...
[03:09] <D4N`> Hello
[03:09] <usr13> RedEyess, But, you said earlier that you installed 2 times before? Or that you re-installed?  Can you elaborate?
[03:09] <leladia> h1st0: this is what i am getting http://rafb.net/p/WLNA1n71.html
[03:09] <Jordan_U> thesaint4444, Do you have openssh-server installed?
[03:10] <RedEyess> I have reinstalled after reformatting the partition
[03:10] <RedEyess> reinstalled twice before
[03:10] <JuJuBee_> I got squid running on my server in my classroom.  It has a public IP address.  I want to point my browser from home to it (watch what my daughter is doing).
[03:10] <JuJuBee_> What do i need to do?
[03:10] <kRush> unagi, same here
[03:10] <thesaint4444> LjL: yes...
[03:10] <RedEyess> what type of ip is squid running on?
[03:10] <unagi> oh ok so its on their side maybe?
[03:10] <usr13> RedEyess, What was the reason for re-installing 2 times?
[03:10] <h1st0> leladia: did you try it with jjust lastcomm | grep $user
[03:10] <LjL> thesaint4444, i don't know.
[03:10] <RedEyess> I wanted to start from scratch
[03:10] <JuJuBee_> currently the internal rfc1918
[03:10] <leladia> yes i did
[03:11] <RedEyess> I have windows also installed on this machine and I don't have problems with it
[03:11] <usr13> RedEyess, Are you talking about slow internet access?
[03:11] <leladia> and it worked
[03:11] <Jordan_U> JuJuBee_, Have you looked at the proxy settings?
[03:11] <RedEyess> not slow internet access
[03:11] <Skwid_> hey everyone, my laptop keeps shutting down telling me that the critical temperature has been reached, but im not sure if it's a ubuntu problem or a hardware problem, any sugestion ?
[03:11] <LjL> thesaint4444: perhaps the partition is really big and it's just running fsck...?
[03:11] <leladia> but i want to filter out the ones for the current month
[03:11] <usr13> RedEyess, You just mentioned squid... ?
[03:11] <RedEyess> it takes a long time for my laptop to boot up
[03:11] <JuJuBee_> Yes, I set it up.  I figure I need to add the allowed network my home computer belongs to.
[03:11] <Jordan_U> RedEyess, Linux isn't great when it comes to boot speed
[03:11] <usr13> RedEyess, Oh, takes long time to boot.
[03:11] <RedEyess> I was trying to answer someone else. Two different thigns
[03:12] <usr13> RedEyess, Have you done all your updates?
[03:12] <thesaint4444> LjL: does it run fsck when it first starts up?
[03:12] <RedEyess> usr13: yes for the updates
[03:12] <LjL> thesaint4444: shouldn't. really just a hypothesis
[03:12] <Ice|Work> I'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my string.h and iostream.h aren't to be found. is there an issue w/ the build environment?
[03:12] <thesaint4444> LjL: partition was 148 gigs...
[03:12] <usr13> RedEyess, It is fully updated?
[03:12] <LjL> Skwid_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/44805
[03:12] <eris_> hi ubuntu people
[03:12] <RedEyess> ice:work: have you installed g++
[03:12] <leladia> h1st0: i am trying to display all the times a user used the grep command within the current month
[03:12] <RedEyess> it is fully updated
[03:13] <Ice|Work> RedEyess: build-essentials right?
[03:13] <Ice|Work> because g++ is present on the system
[03:13] <JuJuBee_> Im guessing I need to open the port on my external nic in IPtables.
[03:13] <RedEyess> ice|work: that is strange
[03:13] <usr13> RedEyess, what does    uname -a     say?
[03:13] <RedEyess> and you are doing include <string>
[03:14] <Ice|Work> RedEyess: of course.
[03:14] <h1st0> leladia: does lastcomm | grep $user work?
[03:14] <RedEyess> Linux spock 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Sun Sep 23 19:50:39 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:14] <leladia> h1st0: yes
[03:14] <usr13> RedEyess, What processor(s) do you have in this machine?
[03:15] <RedEyess> dual core centrino
[03:16] <h1st0> leladia: well then try something like lastcomm | grep $user > temp.txt
[03:16] <h1st0> leladia: cat temp.txt | grep `date`
[03:16] <thesaint4444> LJL - would a damaged fstab cause that problem?
[03:16] <usr13> RedEyess, Well you can poke around at the HD parameters and see if anything looks amiss  (See man hdpram)  but be careful
[03:16] <h1st0> leladia: although the double | should be working so there is aparently a problem with grep `date`
[03:17] <usr13> hdparm not hdpram
[03:17] <RedEyess> does hdparm work for SATA drives?
[03:17] <h1st0> leladia: anyway i'll be back a lil bit later i'm sure someone else with more knowledge than I could help you out.  You may also want to ask in #linuxhelp or #linux or something.
[03:17] <usr13> RedEyess, I do not know.
[03:17] <leladia> h1st0: i think u are beginning to understand what i  am saying
[03:17] <RedEyess> because my computer is seeing the hard drive as scsi device, I think
[03:17] <RedEyess> not hda but sda
[03:18] <usr13> RedEyess,  And I do not know why your system boots slow.... But...
[03:18] <lumpycam> RedEyess - that's normal
[03:18] <RedEyess> that's not normal for this laptop
[03:18] <RedEyess> it was able to boot much faser
[03:18] <RedEyess> faster
[03:18] <RedEyess> i have disabled my wireless internet
[03:19] <unagi> why is it that i cannot refresh my wireless list with the default network manager?
[03:19] <Skwid_> at what temperature is a laptop suppose to run ??
[03:19] <lumpycam> RedEyess - what does dmesg show, anything in particular?
[03:20] <RedEyess> it says alot in dmesg
[03:20] <usr13> RedEyess, See:  http://hermann.czedik.net/ubuntu_initng.html
[03:20] <RedEyess> but I don't see any glaring errors
[03:21] <|rt|> anyone know the file that you need to put the mysql root password in so that apt can install databases properly with applications that require them?
[03:21] <r0ssar00> has anyone had some bad experiences with dhcp?
[03:22] <kst> gn.
[03:22] <r0ssar00> i cant connect to my router in linux through anything, ive always used dhcp
[03:22] <usr13> RedEyess, And: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144831&page=19
[03:22] <lumpycam> |rt| - it used to be mysqladmin to set root mysql pass.
[03:23] <Nambra> is there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?
[03:23] <r0ssar00> i use ifup eth0 to connect and it starts using netmask 255.255.255.255, which is incorrect
[03:23] <usr13> lumgwada, Try    sudo dhclient eth0
[03:23] <dwxreaper> ros: you still use dhcp, check ifconfig -a
[03:23] <|rt|> lumpycam: i seem to recall a file that let you put the password in it so that dpkg-reconfigure or what ever part of dpkg/apt would use to setup database stuff
[03:23] <r0ssar00> im in windows right now
[03:24] <RedEyess> thanks for the help everyone
[03:24] <|rt|> it was somewhere in /etc but I can't find any reference to it on the community docs
[03:24] <usr13> lumgwada, or:    /etc/init.d/networking restart      (BTW, is it wired or wireless.)
[03:24] <zymish> Hello. My husband is an idiot and forgot his password; is there a way for him to bypass the login screen? Or is there a way for him to recover his password?
[03:24] <dwxreaper> use gnome to set the network settings, or delete that app ( i don't like it ) and set change the /etc/networking/interfaces configuration file
[03:24] <r0ssar00> wired
[03:24] <|rt|> I think it was someone here who pointed me to it the last time
[03:24] <r0ssar00> dwxreaper: done that, still won't work
[03:24] <RedEyess> if you have another user on the system you can remove the password from /etc/shadow
[03:24] <Skary> Has anyone had an issue with the install cd not configuring grub properly, with a seporate /boot partition?
[03:24] <eris_> zymish: yes there is a way
[03:24] <jrib> zymish: do you have your account with the ability to sudo?
[03:24] <RedEyess> and then have you reset the password
[03:24] <dino_> System >> Administration >> Restricted Drivers Manager <-- if i cant find any restricted drivers for my ati card there, does it mean i cannot use compiz fusion/beryl?
[03:25] <dwxreaper> ross: paste your interfaces configuration file
[03:25] <|rt|> zymish: are there any accounts in the admin group on the system that you know the passwords for?
[03:25] <zymish> Just the one account.
[03:25] <r0ssar00> dwx reaper: see the default, but with the netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:25] <jrib> !password > zymish (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:25] <zymish> I'm on a different computer.
[03:25] <r0ssar00> dwx: im in windows right now
[03:25] <lumpycam> |rt| - i'm not aware of that. 'do' set the mysqladmin rule should still be correct.
[03:25] <dwxreaper> ros: well i would need that to help you
[03:25] <|rt|> lumpycam: ok I'll give it a go thanks
[03:25] <r0ssar00> dwx: brb
[03:25] <eris_> zymish: you can boot using the ubuntu desktop disk and modify /etc/passwd by mounting the hard disk in question
[03:25] <dwxreaper> but restart the networking services /etc/init.d/networking restart
  can you ping the router?
[03:26] <r0ssar00> dwx: k
[03:26] <r0ssar00> usr13: no
[03:26] <jrib> zymish: erm, just realized that may not be enough info.  Boot into recovery mode (choice at the grub menu) and then issue the following command:  passwd YOUR_USERNAME
[03:26] <|rt|> zymish: you can boot into recovery mode and should be able to reset the password using passwd <username>
[03:26] <dwxreaper> ros: you do not have mac-address filtering enabled on your router right
[03:26] <Nambra> is there any kind of quick fix i can do so that i dont have to have the application i copied something from open when i go to paste whatever i copied?
[03:26] <usr13>   <r0ssar00>  Did you try:  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:27] <cypher1> r0ssar00, is your routing table looks good ?
[03:28] <leladia> pls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'
[03:29] <leladia> pls how do i format my date command so that it show only the current month as 'oct'
[03:29] <taxman> is there a way to choose a name for the pdf file when printing to cups-pdf?
[03:29] <etzerd> hello all
[03:29] <etzerd> ?
[03:29] <taxman> hello
[03:29] <usr13> r0ssar00,  Restart network and watch for errors:  sudo /etc/init.d networking restart   or try    sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop    and then   sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[03:29] <etzerd> is it safe to install ubuntu 7.10 beta in my system now?
[03:30] <usr13> r0ssar00  and watch for errors.
[03:30] <zymish> His computer is now saying "grub loding, please wait" for a moment, then it says "error 24". -shrug- I think it's just a piece of crap in addition to him forgetting his password.
[03:30] <etzerd> last time I installed it I did not have the option to choose the operating system that I want to use e.i windows or ubuntu
[03:30] <cypher1> leladia, isnt it already showing like that ?
[03:30] <taxman> etzerd: not if it's an important system
[03:30] <pinkey> How do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.
[03:31] <taxman> etzerd: if you keep your Windows partition and install Ubuntu with grub you'll have that option
[03:31] <cypher1> leladia, try date +%b
[03:32] <etzerd> Taxman: I did but still when the system boot up ubuntu came up automaticly.
[03:32] <orangefly> can someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....
[03:32] <zymish> As soon as he can get it working, he'll reset the password. Thank you, jrib and |rt|.
[03:33] <taxman> etzerd: do you have the OS's on differen't hd's? Either way, it looks like now you'll need to configure grub
[03:33] <leladia> cypher1: u are the 'man'
[03:33] <leladia> thanks
[03:33] <tompouce> Hi!
[03:33] <cypher1> leladia, you are welcome
[03:33] <taxman> etzerd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29 or the real grub docs linked there should help you
[03:34] <cypher1> !hi tompouce
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi tompouce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <tompouce> Hey, I want to test KDE4, I downloaded every kde4 package, and now I wonder how do I boot on KDE4? It isn't in the session list thingie... Could you help me?
[03:34] <etzerd> thanks taxman.
[03:34] <taxman> np
[03:34] <leladia> cypher1: it means i have more questions for u, so keep the line open... :)
[03:34] <r0ssar00> dwx: here it is auto lo
[03:34] <r0ssar00> iface lo inet loopback
[03:34] <r0ssar00> auto eth0
[03:34] <r0ssar00> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:34] <r0ssar00> auto eth1
[03:34] <r0ssar00> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:34] <r0ssar00> auto eth2
[03:34] <cypher1> leladia, sure
[03:34] <r0ssar00> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[03:34] <r0ssar00> auto ath0
[03:34] <orangefly> can someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....
[03:35] <luk1> hey
[03:35] <sircharle1> How do I find out my cpu type i.e. ppc, i386
[03:35] <taxman> does anyone know of a pdf printing option where you can choose the filename to save as?
[03:35] <etzerd> rightnow I have windows Vista and OpenSuse 10.3 RC1 install. I'm going to uninstall Suse 10.3 RC1 to try out the latest beta version of ubuntu.
[03:35] <|rt|> sircharle1: what type of computer do you have?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> sircharle1: cat /proc/cpuinfo will help
[03:35] <sircharle1> toshiba satellite
[03:35] <|rt|> sircharle1: then you have i386
[03:35] <dwxreaper> ros: no ip addresses with ifconfig -a  | more ?
[03:35] <blankReg> hi all
[03:35] <sircharle1> kk thnx
[03:35] <usr13> <r0ssar0:  Still not connecting?
[03:35] <dwxreaper> wdo you know what nic, is the nic you want to get the dhcp addy
[03:35] <cypher1> tompouce, not sure but you can try run the command kdm
[03:36] <|rt|> sircharle1: ppc is pretty much just older Apple computers these days as far as laptops and desktop's go
[03:36] <usr13> r0ssar00:  You might try rebooting the router.  (Routing tables may be a bit scrambled).
[03:36] <|rt|> sircharle1: ibm still uses alot of ppc in their server stuff as well
[03:37] <r0ssar00> dwx: did you get that?
[03:37] <NateBerkopec> hey all, how do I run a shell script in a folder when using sudo? I'm getting "command not found"
[03:37] <dwxreaper> ros: yes I replied
[03:37] <r0ssar00> didnt get the reply, paste booted me
[03:38] <zymish> Does anyone know what Error 24 and 25 are? He can't get into the GRUB now because of those.
[03:38] <NateBerkopec> i.e. (sudo ./shellscript.sh), why doesnt this work? how to get around?
[03:38] <dwxreaper> are you getting an ip address at all: ifconfig -a | more
[03:38] <r0ssar00> nope
[03:38] <dwxreaper> what nic is supposed to get an address, does it show an up status, ethernet wise
[03:38] <usr13> r0ssar00, Yes, you need to use pastebin.
[03:38] <dwxreaper> ross: you can use ethtool , to see if your link is up, has a light on the back of the nic
[03:38] <r0ssar00> eth0 gets the address, when i do ifup twice, it says its already up
[03:39] <r0ssar00> oh, the link is up, just not getting an ip
[03:39] <dino_> Anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564445
[03:39] <r0ssar00> trust me, i checked the cables
[03:39] <leladia> cypher1: ur help has unlocked the problematic door of my assignment which is to display all the instances a $user used a particular command within the current month.  so what i have done is: lastcomm 'command' $user | grep `date +%b` where 'command' is the command u are looking for.  thanks a million
[03:39] <usr13> r0ssar00, ifconfig eth0  does not show an IP address?
[03:39] <mindrape> NateBerkopec - you could put the shell script in /usr/local/bin and chmod +x it and just sudo shellscript.sh
[03:39] <dwxreaper> ross: ethtool "interface" , see if the link is up at proper speed / duplex (not that it's your problem)
[03:39] <r0ssar00> correct
[03:39] <pinkey> How do I increase the resolution on my laptop?  Under "Screen Resolution Preferences" the dropdown menu's highest res is 800x600.  At this resolution, many of the dialog boxes go off the screen and cannot be resized.
[03:39] <Jordan_U> pinkey, What GPU?
[03:39] <mindrape> pinkey - you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <r0ssar00> brb, gotta try some more commands
[03:39] <usr13> r0ssar00, Did you try restarting the router?
[03:40] <dwxreaper> ross: verify that is the nic that is connected to your router, eth0
[03:40] <r0ssar00> yep, and yep
[03:40] <cypher1> leladia, cool.. enjoy
[03:40] <sanzanric> you could just put "sudo"  as the first line of the script
[03:40] <dwxreaper> ros: uninstall that gnome network manager thing it sucks
[03:40] <r0ssar00> and so i will brb
[03:40] <sanzanric> get wicd
[03:40] <dwxreaper> ross: just change the configuration file
[03:40] <Jordan_U> mindrape, Not necessarily, pinkey may just need the right drivers
[03:40] <r0ssar00> and i will uninstall it
[03:41] <dwxreaper> ross: yeah it causes problems
[03:41] <mindrape> Jordan_U - well if they have the wrong driver that is going to need to be updated in xorg.conf as well as the resolution options...
[03:41] <dwxreaper> it doesn't interoperate well when you manually change the configuration
[03:41] <pinkey> Jordan_ I'm trying to determine the GPU.  It's a sony Vaio if that helps.
[03:42] <usr13> r0ssar00, You could just use static IP.  Try a static IP, (one that is not being used and is not in the dhcp pool) and put dns addresses in /etc/resolv.conf
[03:42] <Devourer> Ok.
[03:42] <Devourer> What do I use to burn and ISO file onto a CD?
[03:42] <pinkey> Jordan_U, its Intel? GM965 Express Chipset
[03:42] <Devourer> an*
[03:42] <sanzanric> system>preference>devices look for you gpu
[03:42] <Jordan_U> mindrape, Not if they use restricted manager
[03:42] <Jordan_U> !resolution | pinkey
[03:42] <ubotu> pinkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:43] <cypher1> !burn | Devourer
[03:43] <ubotu> Devourer: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:43] <Ice|Work> I'm trying to work on some computer science projects on this ubuntu box of mine that i set up to emulate the CS environment at home. I installed build essentials, so i have GCC, but its telling me that my <string> and <iostream> aren't to be found. Any clue what might be going on?
[03:43] <Jordan_U> pinkey, Try switching to the "intel" driver as described on that page
[03:43] <Devourer> cypher1: Thank you.
[03:43] <Jamesinator> I have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.
[03:43] <cypher1> Devourer, you are welcome
[03:43] <orangefly> can someone help me access a windows share....i have samba installed and i could access it until i switched from wireless to a cable....
[03:43] <sanzanric> gma965 driver suck
[03:44] <pinkey> Jordan_U, thanks, I'll give that a try
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Ice|Work, What command gives you what error exactly?
[03:44] <BUDD}{A> can someone tell me why i am getting no video with any media player or with my tv card
[03:45] <Ice|Work> running my source through g++ gives me arraylist.h:17: error: string does not name a type
[03:46] <emaconline> hello
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> BUDD}{A: i'd guess your'e doing something wrong... :)..
[03:46] <Jamesinator> I have an account with a password that was automatically generated from a script. I am able to SU into the account, but I get "login failed" when trying to access it via FTP.
[03:46] <emaconline> anyone can help on running beryl on ubuntu
[03:46] <cypher1> Ice|Work, i think you need libstdc++ dev libraries
[03:46] <zetheroo> how do I know that the fglrx drivers are installed on my box?
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | emaconline
[03:46] <ubotu> emaconline: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:46] <BUDD}{A> yea thanks that was very helpful
[03:46] <emaconline> thanks
[03:46] <Ice|Work> cypher1: installed build-essentials... and says libstdc++ is installed, i checked already
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> BUDD}{A:  i strive, only thing less helpful was your explanation
[03:47] <Jamesinator> IndyGunFreak: Let's not throw coal on the fire now
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> moi?
[03:47] <cypher1> Ice|Work, what is "dpkg -S iostream" showing for you ?
[03:47] <zetheroo> is there a command in the terminal to check if the fglrx drivers are installed ?
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:48] <Ice|Work> libstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/iostream
[03:48] <Ice|Work> libstdc++6-4.1-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/backward/iostream.h
[03:48] <r0ssar00> dwx: i have the output of ethtool and its saying the link isn't up, but in windows on the same machine, the link *is* up
[03:48] <zetheroo> how do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?
[03:48] <sexcopter> hi, i'm sat here with my wireless keyboard and feeling quite lazy to get up and get the mouse. is there a way to get the applications menu up with the keyboard?
[03:49] <Jamesinator> quit
[03:49] <OleMoudi> sexcopter, alt+F1
[03:49] <OleMoudi> or alt+F2 and exec anything
[03:50] <h1st0> !away > cypher1
[03:50] <sexcopter> OleMoudi: great! thanks
[03:50] <furenku> I am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers
[03:51] <r0ssar00> any ideas dwx?
[03:51] <delmar> PB DONE
[03:51] <delmar> Borg and grobal
[03:52] <zetheroo> how do I install the fglrx drivers through the terminal?
[03:52] <delmar> helps if i have teh right window clicked..
[03:52] <r0ssar00> obviously this is a linux problem
[03:52] <h1st0> zetheroo: read the message from ubotu
[03:52] <dano> Hey all, my wacom stylus, and external display no longer work.  Any ideas on how to begin to trouble shoot it?
[03:52] <Ice|Work> so im guessing no more ideas about these headers and g++ not wanting to compile?
[03:52] <h1st0> r0ssar00: what kind of network card are you trying to get to work?
[03:53] <r0ssar00> standard realtek 8139 gigabit, worked 2 days ago
[03:53] <r0ssar00> i think its 8139
[03:53] <h1st0> r0ssar00: yeah should pretty much just work.
[03:53] <r0ssar00> i know its 81_9
[03:53] <r0ssar00> thing is it work 2 days ago
[03:53] <h1st0> r0ssar00: did you try sudo ifup eth(x)
[03:53] <cypher1> Ice|Work, you can start debugging by explicitly mentioning the paths to the header files.. but that will be more of C++ than ubuntu i guess
[03:53] <r0ssar00> yep
[03:53] <r0ssar00> many times
[03:54] <kyja> can we talk beta here now?
[03:54] <r0ssar00> many many times
[03:54] <cypher1> kyja, i think #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <Flannel> kyja: Nope, still #ubuntu+1, until it goes stable
[03:54] <kyja> kk thx
[03:54] <furenku> I am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers
[03:54] <h1st0> kyja: no bug reporting and testing is in #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <cypher1> furenku, what does iwconfig say ?
[03:55] <tinman47> Heys
[03:55] <nrdb> how do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.
[03:55] <h1st0> r0ssar00: is the module for the card getting loaded?
[03:55] <r0ssar00> must be, i get an eth0 entry, would i still get that if the module *want* loaded?
[03:55] <pinkey> Jordan_U, thanks I got it working.  Ahh, this is so much nicer.
[03:55] <tinman47> Is there any place where I can get tutorials on Drawing?
[03:56] <leku> where can I get help with gutsy?
[03:56] <Ice|Work> cypher1: i just don't understand why it's a "C++" issue. If the stdlibc++ is there, it should see it. but that's just me. :(
[03:56] <Jordan_U> tinman47, Drawing what?
[03:56] <Ice|Work> call me crazy or whatnot
[03:56] <Jordan_U> leku, #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <tinman47> Like anything.
[03:56] <furenku> cypher1, "no wireless extensions" (two times, for lo and eth0
[03:56] <tinman47_>  develop skills
[03:56] <leku> thanks
[03:56] <furenku> )
[03:56] <pinkey> To install ubuntu on my laptop was a chore.  The timezone screen was too big, and so the buttons were off the screen and could not be clicked.  The dialog box could not be resized.  I had to hit "tab" enough times to focus on "ok" by counting the right number, mostly by guessing.
[03:57] <Jordan_U> tinman47, Using drawing applications or just drawing?
[03:57] <cypher1> Ice|Work, i am not sure.. it was just my opinion sorry.. probably some one else will answer you
[03:57] <h1st0> r0ssar00: nah what sort of errors are you getting ith the card?
[03:57] <tinman47> Anything, like traditional, just to develop skill.
[03:57] <tinman47> Paper and pencil.
[03:57] <tinman47> Just need a link.
[03:57] <r0ssar00> not seeing anything, in dmesg or otherwise, ifup just keeps trying, then sleeps a bit, then tries again, rinse, repeat
[03:57] <cypher1> furenku, does the wireless card show in lspci output ?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> pinkey, Yea, it really should be made to work at low resolutions ( though most get at least 1024x768 with the LiveCD )
[03:58] <norther> yo
[03:58] <colin_> whatup
[03:58] <gregorovius> anybody here uses ktorrent's rss feature and care to explain how to make it work?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> tinman47, This channel is for Ubuntu support, try #ubuntu-offtopic possibly
[03:58] <h1st0> r0ssar00: so your not getting an ip?
[03:58] <gregorovius> i'm not getting along with regex
[03:58] <r0ssar00> correct
[03:58] <kersinc0> #ubuntu-es
[03:59] <tinman47> oh, thanx.
[03:59] <furenku> cypher 1, yes,
[03:59] <pinkey> Jordan_U, I used live CD but it only went to 800x600.  Just now, however, it's at 1200x800, and is so much more readable.  Thanks again.
[03:59] <h1st0> r0ssar00: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces
[03:59] <h1st0> r0ssar00: also try using the network-manager applet
[03:59] <r0ssar00> itll be in pastebin, gimme a sec
[03:59] <colin_> having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both
[03:59] <colin_> anyone have an answer for me?
[04:00] <r0ssar00> pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39343/
[04:00] <norther> ok can anyone help me out install steam via wine, im at the part where its asking for a root folder but doesn't want one i guess heh... the winehq area arent talking
[04:00] <kamers> HI
[04:00] <Jordan_U> pinkey, And for future reference ( though you should never have to do it ) you can move a window by holding option / alt and dragging it
[04:00] <kamers> anyone please
[04:00] <Jordan_U> kamers, You need to ask a question to get an answer :)
[04:00] <r0ssar00> ill be on tomorrow, bout 7 canadian eastern time, i g2g now
[04:00] <kamers> ehhehehe sure
[04:00] <h1st0> r0ssar00k
[04:01] <kamers> any xorg.conf expert?
[04:01] <h1st0> !ask | kamers
[04:01] <ubotu> kamers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:01] <scrimple101> Hi everyone, couldn't fix the menu problem - had to do a reinstall after deleting everything, then used Aptoncd, WOW what a great program, saved me heaps of time.
[04:01] <kamers> ok then... is there a way to make xorg ignore de "PixClock" maximum (erroneously) detected?
[04:02] <furenku> cypher1, yes, its present in lspci
[04:02] <Devourer> Good ol' Ubuntu, making life easy.
[04:02] <h1st0> kamers: remove it from the xorg.conf?  i'm not quite sure what you are trying to do.
[04:02] <scrimple101> i'll never try and make it look like a Mac again
[04:03] <kamers> i cannot find references or docs for how xorg server deals with the "pixclock" or dotclock parameters
[04:03] <Jordan_U> kamers, What is pixclock ?
[04:03] <kersinc0> #ubuntu-es
[04:03] <kamers> xorg.conf is ok, the sis740 (sis) ok, and monitor ok, but xorg detects erroneously a "60 Hz" maximum for PixClock...
[04:03] <h1st0> kamers: maybe wiki.x.org
[04:04] <open-gl> someone check my post and see if everything is correct
[04:04] <h1st0> kamers: you can specify your own values if its wrong
[04:04] <open-gl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3460057#post3460057
[04:04] <ubuntulusers> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg
[04:04] <kamers> see, i cannot specify "dotclocks". or, i can, but xorg server will ignore it on loading of xorg.conf
[04:04] <ubuntulusers> hi
[04:04] <ubuntulusers> that's my workspace
[04:05] <h1st0> open-gl: looks okay other than you shouldn't have to edit /etc/modules the module should be loaded already
[04:05] <mneptok> !offtopic | ubuntulusers
[04:05] <open-gl> ubuntulusers what type of money is that
[04:05] <ubotu> ubuntulusers: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:05] <ubuntulusers> open-gl, euros
[04:05] <h1st0> open-gl: and firmware should be extracted to /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[04:06] <kamers> you know, the .conf is fine (i see it in the xorg.conf.log) but the server chooses to ignore it, because of that detected "maximum"
[04:06] <open-gl> h1st0 what set should i do that on
[04:06] <h1st0> open-gl: huh?
[04:06] <GamingX> Hello everyone, how do I compile C programs in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <scguy318_2> GamingX: you need the build-essential metapackage
[04:06] <open-gl> better yet just tell me the full command
[04:06] <h1st0> open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[04:07] <kamers> its obviously wrong, since vesa reports the monitor is 1024x768@75 capable
[04:07] <scguy318_2> GamingX: and how do you want to build? command-line? or IDE?
[04:07] <open-gl> ok
[04:07] <vmlinuz`> gdm or kdm?
[04:07] <h1st0> open-gl: then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[04:07] <kamers> and i have already used it at those configurations with win (no problems)
[04:07] <open-gl> h1st0 i did do that on step 2
[04:07] <h1st0> open-gl: the module should be loading by default even without the firmware present.  it just won't work untill it is.
[04:07] <GamingX> scguy318_2: I wrote the code in using gedit...
[04:07] <colin_> anybody else have audio troubles with a dell e1505/6400
[04:07] <colin_> ?
[04:08] <h1st0> open-gl: just like I typed it above.
[04:08] <scguy318_2> colin_: i dont own one, but whats the question
[04:08] <kamers> my specific question is: who is detecting it wrong? I think is the sis driver
[04:08] <h1st0> open-gl: sudo mv bcm43xx* /lib/firmware/`uname -r`     That will put it in /lib/firmware/2.6.20-16-generic/
[04:08] <h1st0> open-gl: or whatever kernel you are currently running
[04:09] <h1st0> !anyone > colin_
[04:09] <kamers> i have already read ALL the contents of xorg wiki... ;)
[04:09] <kamers> i think i have a brand new bug here...
[04:09] <h1st0> kamers: you may want to ask them then.
[04:09] <open-gl> mastershrek showed me a different way yesterday and it worked but i forgot what i did
[04:09] <GamingX> How do I compile the code?
[04:09] <scguy318> GamingX: gcc
[04:09] <h1st0> kamers: #xorg
[04:09] <scguy318> GamingX: man gcc for info
[04:09] <GamingX> !gcc
[04:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:09] <kamers> ok tks
[04:09] <h1st0> kamers: they may be of more help than anyone here
[04:10] <kamers> fine...tks anyway ;)
[04:10] <colin_> having trouble with my sound its comming outta my speakers and the
[04:10] <colin_>           headphone port when i hook it up to the stereo. I tried also mixer
[04:10] <colin_>           but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both
[04:10] <h1st0> !compile > GamingX
[04:10] <scguy318> !sound | colin_
[04:10] <ubotu> colin_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:10] <h1st0> colin_: i'm so confused by your question
[04:10] <colin_> yeah alsa is enabled
[04:10] <h1st0> colin_: Your statement makes absolutely no sense
[04:11] <colin_> what is so confusing in the mixer there are three sliders or faders a headphone fader and a speaker fader
[04:11] <cjae_> !compile
[04:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:11] <h1st0> colin_: "but both the headphone and the speaker fader affect both?"
[04:11] <colin_> affect the volume
[04:11] <colin_> of both
[04:11] <h1st0> colin_: perhaps your soundcard only has one output
[04:11] <colin_> no
[04:11] <h1st0> colin_: where are you plugging the headphones in to and where are you pluggin the speakers in to?
[04:11] <colin_> so basically if i use the headphone port the sound still comes outta the laptop speakers
[04:12] <h1st0> colin_: ahh
[04:12] <h1st0> colin_: that makes sense
[04:12] <colin_> there are 2 faders
[04:12] <colin_> in the mixer
[04:12] <colin_> but if i turn off the speaker fader it still comes out of the internal speakers
[04:12] <h1st0> colin_: the hardware should be turning off the speakers on the laptop when headphones are plugged in not the mixer
[04:12] <towskis> I'm having trouble connecting to an encrypted network. It asks for a WPA passphrase, I put the correct passphrase in, but it times out on trying to get a second green dot. Any ideas?
[04:12] <manduski> hey guys how do you join the XUBUNTU chat?
[04:12] <h1st0> !wpa > towskis
[04:12] <Hilikus> does feisty server install by default apache or apache2?? or, how do i know which one i have
[04:13] <colin_> i dunno how true that is. I own another dell laptop and it has 2 faders and i can turn off the internal speakers
[04:13] <h1st0> Hilikus: by default nothing unless you select a lamp install
[04:13] <colin_> with the speaker fader
[04:13] <cjae_> how do I make stream tuner not rip to /opt/ripped
[04:13] <chris__> could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?
[04:13] <furenku> I am not getting "wireless connection" under network preferences!!!!! how can i get this back? disappeared after installing nvidia drivers - the card does show up on lspci, but on iwconfig i get "no wireless extensions" for lo and eth0
[04:13] <Hilikus> h1st0 i did
[04:13] <colin_> so there is something wrong with my alsa
[04:13] <h1st0> Hilikus: dpkg -l | grep apache
[04:13] <manduski> hey guys how can i join the xubuntu chat?
[04:13] <cypher1> furenku, sorry was away
[04:14] <h1st0> colin_: possibly did you try searching the forums?  ubuntuforums.org  search for your specific laptop model see if others have had your problem
[04:14] <Hilikus> apache2, thanks h1st0
[04:14] <overclucker> manduski: /join #xubuntu
[04:14] <h1st0> manduski: /j #xubuntu
[04:14] <chris__> could someone direct me to where i can get help installing beryl ?
[04:14] <cypher1> furenku, do you find any messages related to the card in dmesg, also is the module for the card is loaded ?
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> chris__: #ubuntu-effects
[04:14] <chris__> thanks
[04:14] <mneptok> chris__: just wait for Gutsy
[04:14] <h1st0> furenku: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[04:14] <colin_> so any alsa gurus in here?
[04:14] <h1st0> furenku: and did you upgrade your kernel or someting?
[04:14] <rabidsnail> How do I have a command continue running after i've logged off?
[04:15] <manduski> thx
[04:15] <chris__> whats gutsy ?
[04:15] <mneptok> rabidsnail: screen
[04:15] <scguy318> !gutsy | chris___
[04:15] <cjae_> cause there is notting in the gui to change it
[04:15] <ubotu> chris___: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <h1st0> rabidsnail: you could use screen
[04:15] <mneptok> chris__: the next release
[04:15] <furenku> h1st0, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[04:15] <overclucker> haha! that is the answer to every problem, latley! WAIT FOR GUTSY!!
[04:15] <h1st0> That should not say support only in #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <nrdb> how do you stop ubuntu from auto mounting a partition ? I tried putting an 'noauto' option in /etc/fstab.
[04:15] <h1st0> Should say bug testing/reporting in #ubuntu+1
[04:15] <mneptok> h1st0: until release, yes it should
[04:15] <ubuntulusers> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7403/01kg9.jpg
[04:16] <h1st0> nrdb: remove its fstab entry
[04:16] <h1st0> !offtopic > ubuntulusers
[04:16] <overclucker> how to change your icons: wait for gutsy!
[04:16] <h1st0> overclucker: or just install a icon package from gnome-look
[04:16] <mneptok> ubuntulusers: i already told you once about -offtopic. next time is strike 3.
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> what's strike 3'?
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> :o)
[04:17] <nrdb> h1st0: if I remove it, wouldn't I then need to specifiy a full mount command to mount it ?
[04:17] <furenku> cypher1, it is not present in dmesg (i think) - how do i know whether the module is loaded
[04:17] <h1st0> nrdb: yes
[04:17] <scguy318> ubuntulusers: whatever it is, it prob wont be much fun
[04:17] <h1st0> nrdb: how else would you mount it.
[04:17] <GamingX> How to take screenshot in ubuntu?
[04:17] <overclucker> h1st0: just remarking on the current fix-all solution (;
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> ok
[04:17] <h1st0> !screencast > GamingX
[04:17] <scguy318> GamingX: Print Screen, if ur not in GNOME
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> i don't want strike 3
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> :-(
[04:17] <nrdb> h1st0: "mount <mount point>"
[04:17] <attackdecay> screen shot
[04:17] <ubuntulusers> i'm sorry
[04:17] <scguy318> GamingX: theres a screenshot applet, and there are some packages to let u map screenshot key
[04:17] <attackdecay> alt-prnt screen
[04:18] <mneptok> ubuntulusers: no, you don't.
[04:18] <mneptok> trust me.
[04:18] <manduski> hey guys, i have xubuntu and I have it set up for command line login. Today I downloaded the GNOME desktop environment and I wanted to know if anyone knew how, on command line login, "startx" with GNOME
[04:18] <h1st0> nrdb: sudo mount /dev/blah /mount/point
[04:18] <cypher1> furenku, try lsmod | more and look for something similar to your card
[04:18] <h1st0> manduski: you'd have to change your ~/.xinitrc
[04:19] <h1st0> manduski: or install a manager such as xdm or gdm to switch upon logging in.
[04:19] <furenku> cypher1, nothing there
[04:19] <mneptok> manduski: or use the sessions manager at the login splash
[04:19] <wastrel> manduski: echo exec gnome-session > .xinitrc
[04:19] <kamers> peoples...sorry but there is nobody on xorg...i will try here anyway
[04:19] <h1deki> hi. with apache's mod_dav_svn, does anyone know if it's possible to look up on ldap groups for group authorization in AuthzSVNAccessFile files instead of having have to write out the user names in [group]  clause?
[04:19] <furenku> cypher1, or maybe i dont know what to look for
[04:19] <manduski> hlst0: What changes would i have to make to ~/.xinitrc?
[04:19] <kamers> (II) SIS(0): Ranges: V min: 50  V max: 90 Hz, H min: 30  H max: 54 kHz, PixClock max 60 MHz
[04:19] <wastrel> mneptok: he doesn't have the login splash, not using a display manager
[04:19] <cypher1> furenku, lsmod | grep ipw3945
[04:20] <kamers> that is from may xorg.conf.log - the picClock is not ok
[04:20] <h1st0> h1deki: /j #apache
[04:20] <kamers> i supose i should blame the sis driver...is it right?
[04:20] <furenku> cypher1, i found ipw3945 with lsmod | more (i hadn't clicked more)
[04:20] <h1deki> h1st0: yeah, i tried, but so far that place and #svn looks pretty silent..
[04:20] <h1st0> h1deki: hrm.
[04:21] <cypher1> furenku, can you please paste it at pastebin ?
[04:21] <mneptok> furenku: do you have a physical switch that controls the wireless? if so, ensure it's not off. ;)
[04:21] <h1st0> kamers: dunno you could try using the vesa driver and see if you get any difference
[04:21] <manduski> thnx guys
[04:21] <h1st0> manduski: just search google for .xinitrc
[04:21] <cypher1> furenku, yes as mneptok mentioned that is one of the common things we forgot.. please make sure that it is on
[04:21] <furenku> cypher1, the whole output or just the part for ipw
[04:22] <furenku> cypher1, mneptok, it is no
[04:22] <furenku> cypher1, mneptok, it is on
[04:22] <cypher1> furenku, the whole
[04:22] <h1st0> manduski: I dont' know the exact line you would need but somethign like "exec gnome"  or exec gnome2  whatever starts gnome
[04:22] <wastrel> exec gnome-session
[04:22] <kamers> h1st0: ok tks...ive tryed it already..the same. funny, but there must be another system service that is lieing
[04:23] <h1st0> kamers: What sort of problem are you experiencing because of this?
[04:23] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> hey i cant write to an external harddrive, using gusty beta.... heres my fstab http://rafb.net/p/uaMeaC41.html
[04:23] <Ax3> hey guys, i've been playing with vnc over ssh for about an hour now, and I can't seem to get my Windows XP machine to connect to a vnc session. any pointers?
[04:23] <h1st0> !gutsy | patrickkkkkkkkkk
[04:23] <ubotu> patrickkkkkkkkkk: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:23] <cruiserparts> i am trying to figure out why my cron job won't work.  Is this the proper place to ask for help or should I use another service?
[04:24] <h1st0> !ask | cruiserparts
[04:24] <ubotu> cruiserparts: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <kamers> since the server "thinks" 60 Hz for Pixclock is maximum, it ignores the mode 1024x768x60 Hz (can use only 87 Hz interlaced...SO ugly)
[04:24] <h1st0> Ax3: are you using putty on the windows machine?
[04:24] <h1st0> Ax3: or vnc viewer or something?
[04:24] <Ax3> I download real vnc viewer from realvnc.com
[04:24] <Ax3> downloaded*
[04:25] <h1st0> Ax3: what sort of problems are you having?
[04:25] <cjae_> ok I see where to change the ripped directory but how do I make it take hold
[04:25] <kamers> see...the mode 1024x768@60Hz uses about 62.x MHz in the PixClock...
[04:25] <overclucker> patrickkkkkkkkkk: i think this is a more general problem, so stay here
[04:25] <furenku> cypher1, it is up: http://pastebin.com/d3d04a4f9
[04:25] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> yeah, i couldnt in feisty either
[04:25] <h1st0> kamers: hrm...  I would just be scowering google for pixclock xorg
[04:25] <h1st0> patrickkkkkkkkkk: gutsy is in #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <Ax3> h1st0, well when I try to connect to my ubuntu machine I do, 192.168.1.4:1 and the real vnc viewer client returns an error saying unable to connect
[04:25] <kamers> so the mode gets excluded...and that is not right: in that log line, should be about 80 or 100 MHz for max pixclocl
[04:25] <cruiserparts> ubotu: first time on irc.  I have a simple script that backs up some directories on my ubuntu server.  when I log in as a user, it runs fine.  but I have set up a cron job as that user and it doesn't ever run.
[04:26] <overclucker> patrickkkkkkkkkk: is it sda1?
[04:26] <h1st0> Ax3: can you ssh to the box?
[04:26] <tompouce> Hi! I just intalled every kde4 packages, now how do I start it?
[04:26] <Ax3> h1st0, yes i can :)
[04:26] <cjae_> nevermind got her
[04:26] <h1st0> Ax3: hrm... maybe try a different client
[04:26] <kamers> wel...ok..i have already done that...there is just NO docs about the use of the PixClock (just the obvious...)
[04:26] <Ax3> h1st0, I also put 5900 and 5901 in my router port forward rules
[04:27] <jrib> cruiserparts: pastebin the cron line
[04:27] <Ax3> that didn't work tho :(
[04:27] <scguy318> Ax3: connecting over the INternet?
[04:27] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> overclucker:no its not
[04:27] <scguy318> Ax3: if so, 192.168.1.4 is not the correct IP ;)
[04:27] <overclucker> patrickkkkkkkkkk: which one?
[04:27] <Ax3> scguy318, well eventually, I was testing on my LAN first, then I want to get it to work outside my house
[04:27] <scguy318> Ax3: if you're connecting from outside, you'll have to supply a fine public IP
[04:27] <h1st0> Ax3: yeah thats the only thing I can think of is that its some sort of port behing blocked but not if you can ssh
[04:28] <kamers> i think its a sis driver bug...but i could not find where to go from here.
[04:28] <furenku> cypher1, i had to exit IRC, did you by chance type something to me?
[04:28] <Ax3> scguy318, yea but I hardly think it'll work over the intarweb, if it doesn't work within my house lol
[04:28] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> im not sure....sda1 is my windows partition
[04:28] <cypher1> furenku, no
[04:29] <cypher1> furenku, can you try doing sudo modprobe -r nvidia ?
[04:29] <Ax3> h1st0, yea Im really at a loss, i just don't understand how the ssh tunnel works
[04:29] <Ax3> the ubuntu documentation is awful
[04:29] <attackdecay> hey what's the deal with beryl and compiz...   compiz fusion..   da da da....  i can't seem to find a definitive/uptodate answer
[04:29] <vmlinuz`> why does Neotun stops the media song whenever i click "Play" it doesnt even play... bug?
[04:29] <JeevesMoss> how do you set up vhosts in apache2?
[04:29] <JeevesMoss> how do you set up vhosts in apache2?
[04:29] <cypher1> furenku, and see whether the wireless network is seen again
[04:29] <furenku> cypher1, FATAL: nvidia is in use
[04:29] <wastrel> cruiserparts:  is the PATH different in your user login environment than in the cron environment?  do you have a simple "hello world" type thing running ok under cron?
[04:29] <scguy318> Ax3: you stick in a local tunnel in SSH, then you connect to the local tunnel on your loopback
[04:30] <furenku> cypher1, still the same...
[04:30] <mneptok> vmlinuz`: please keep your support questions to a single channel. #ubuntu is not the right plage for Kubuntu questions.
[04:30] <kamers> well, in fact, i think that the "DDC" is lieing to the sis driver
[04:30] <scguy318> Ax3: so if you're forwarding 127.0.0.1:5900 -> ubuntumachine:5900, then on the VNC client, you would connect to 127.0.0.1:5900, and the SSH client would route it to the SSH server
[04:30] <vmlinuz`> mneptok: i asked about neotun the program, not kubuntu ;/
[04:30] <cruiserparts> ubotu.  30 0 * * * /home/user/BackupScripts/nightlyBackup is the output from crontab -l
[04:31] <kamers> i could not disable that DDC detection...(already tryed all those keys in the xorg.conf)
[04:31] <cruiserparts> oops.  that is 30 3 * * * ...
[04:31] <Ax3> scguy318, how does the realvnc viewer software know that it's supposed to route to the ssh server
[04:32] <Ax3> scguy318, the two applications seem independent of one another
[04:32] <kamers> well...anyway, this ubuntu is almost "good" i think. not 100% yet, but much better... :(
[04:32] <jrib> cruiserparts: ubotu is a bot
[04:32] <scguy318> Ax3: because the SSH client sets up a listener socket
[04:32] <furenku> cypher1, still the same
[04:32] <scguy318> Ax3: that does the routing to the SSH server
[04:32] <mneptok> vmlinuz`: "Noatun" (note the correct spelling) is an app for KDE. please don't ask about it here.
[04:32] <cypher1> furenku, ok.. i am thinking
[04:32] <tompouce> can you help me?
[04:32] <Ax3> scguy318, hmmm
[04:33] <zoredache> Is anyone familar with dm-crypt?  What is the effect on the encryted volume, if I do a luksOpen, but then don't do a close?
[04:34] <Lindar> Okay, so my disk is being a bastard. I've booted from the Ubuntu CD and now I've got a command prompt up. I need to do the linux equiv. of a chkdisk. The disk is messed up...
[04:34] <cypher1> furenku, i am sorry i think i am out of ideas to debug.. please wait for someone to answer you.. thanks
[04:34] <zoredache> Lindar: the linux equivlanet of chkdsk is 'fsck'
[04:34] <jrib> cruiserparts: i have to go but try installing 'mutt' and checking your mail from cron
[04:35] <furenku> cypher1, thank you!! really
[04:35] <Ax3> scguy318, on the documentation page it suggests: "ssh -fCNT user@192.168.1.25 -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901"
[04:35] <Lindar> zoredache: zoh... my... gods... I'm retarded for not remembering that command... Thank you. >_<
[04:36] <Ax3> scguy318, so I setup putty, run that command (replacing the addresses with my unique IPs) and then connect with the realvncviewer app, correct?
[04:36] <smacfarl> hey gang when does 7.10 go out of beta?
[04:36] <furenku> The option "wireless network" has disappeared from network preferences , does anybody know how to open it again?
[04:36] <usr13> smacfarl, It's a surprise
[04:36] <GamingX> How to compile a .txt file containing C code?
[04:37] <smacfarl> lol. I'm thinking about upgrading just to see if my ATI Radeon 7000 has better driver support.
[04:37] <wastrel> GamingX: install build-essential
[04:37] <usr13> smacfarl, Seriously, I don't know for sure but it's pretty close, i'm told.
[04:37] <smacfarl> loverly
[04:37] <crdlb> smacfarl, very doubtful, although you may benefit from general improvements in Xorg
[04:38] <GamingX> wastrel: I did that....After that?
[04:38] <crdlb> smacfarl, and it comes out October 19ish
[04:38] <smacfarl> where can I read about the details of those xorg improvements?
[04:38] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, you might as well just let the update manager (or similar) run overnight - I (and apparently other people on the forums) am getting really slow download speeds - 50KB/s max
[04:39] <Lindar> How do I repair my hdd?
[04:39] <Lindar> It's dumb...
[04:39] <smacfarl> will the update manager automatically migrate me to 7.10?
[04:39] <usr13> fsck -y
[04:39] <h1st0> Lindar: fsck
[04:39] <wastrel> GamingX: gcc -o filename filename.c
[04:40] <h1st0> Lindar: fsck /hard/drive/location
[04:40] <GamingX> wastrel: I'll try that....
[04:40] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[04:40] <h1st0> Lindar: ex; fsck /dev/hda  or fsck /dev/sda
[04:40] <kevinO> whats a good app to rip cd's into iso's?
[04:40] <h1st0> kevinO: you don't need any apps to do that.
[04:41] <kevinO> cool how do i do it
[04:41] <GamingX> wastrel: I get this gcc: Sqrt.c: No such file or directory....
[04:41] <vmlinuz`> does xmms go to system tray?
[04:41] <wastrel> GamingX: is Sqrt.c in your current directory?
[04:41] <h1st0> kevinO: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso
[04:41] <kevinO> thats the command vmlinuz` ?
[04:41] <kadal> hi all, can anybody help me set a scheduled job using cron / crontab ?
[04:41] <Lindar> It keeps saying something about superblock and bad magic number...
[04:41] <smacfarl> chrisjs169 so you recommend I update to 7.10 tonight then?
[04:41] <samsm> I'm having some trouble mounting a usb hard drive ... and it isn't showing up on the "sudo fdisk -l" list. Any suggestions?
[04:42] <vmlinuz`> kevinO: hehe :)
[04:42] <zoredache> do you see it if you do an lsusb?
[04:42] <h1st0> kevinO: use dd like I explained above for making an iso
[04:42] <vmlinuz`> kevinO: I was asking myself :)
[04:42] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, you can update any time, but it's probably going to take a few hours to download the packages, regardless of download speed
[04:42] <kadal> I made a simple bash script n put it on crontab -e ; but it never run
[04:42] <h1st0> samsm: it should be auto mounted when plugging it in.
[04:42] <kevinO> oh sorry vmlinuz
[04:42] <GamingX> wastrel : I only have the Sqrt.txt file, how do I get the Sqrt.c file?
[04:42] <h1st0> !mount > samsm
[04:42] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, from what I've found anyway
[04:43] <kevinO> h1st0:  where does it put the iso?
[04:43] <Juggie> anyone know how to stop pcmcia support (yenta) from loading?
[04:43] <h1st0> kevinO: in what ever directory you are in when you run the command
[04:43] <samsm> h1st0: Would be nice if it did mount, but it didn't. :)
[04:43] <kevinO> ahh thinks h1st0
[04:43] <wastrel> GamingX: if sqrt.txt is c code you can just rename the file  or you can use file.txt instead of file.c  gcc shouldn't care
[04:43] <kevinO> thanks*
[04:43] <h1st0> samsm: did you check dmesg
[04:43] <h1st0> kevinO: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html
[04:44] <samsm> zoredache: lsusb hangs.
[04:44] <denneb> Yo
[04:44] <h1st0> samsm: plug int he drive and run dmesg
[04:44] <wastrel> i take it back, gcc does care
[04:44] <smacfarl> chrisjs169 when i did the gksudo update-manager -c -d I got a "warning: could not initiate dbus". What does that mean?
[04:44] <h1st0> samsm: before you do you can dmesg -c to clear it first
[04:44] <denneb> Je suis nouveau
[04:44] <h1st0> !fr | denneb
[04:44] <ubotu> denneb: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:45] <smacfarl> denneb bonjour
[04:45] <denneb> je voudrais un petit renseignement
[04:45] <denneb> je suis novice sur linux
[04:45] <samsm> h1st0: I'll give that a shot, thanks.
[04:45] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, I get that too - don't know what exactly it means (I'm just another user upgrading ;)) but it still upgrades
[04:45] <denneb> smacfarl, ?
[04:45] <smacfarl> denneb Allez #ubuntu-fr
[04:45] <denneb> ok
[04:45] <denneb> merci
[04:46] <smacfarl> my pleasure
[04:46] <BlackCow> hello
[04:46] <drewzf> Okay seriously there's gotta be an easier way to theme Ubuntu
[04:46] <h1st0> drewzf: there is
[04:46] <wastrel> theme
[04:46] <drewzf> What is it?!
[04:46] <riotkittie> theme ubuntu?  uh.
[04:46] <riotkittie> theme what?
[04:46] <riotkittie> all of the versions? gnome? xfce? kde?
[04:47] <drewzf> oops
[04:47] <h1st0> drewzf: just go to gnome-look.org and just go to System > Preferences > Theme  you can then drag and drop the downloaded theme
[04:47] <drewzf> sorry, theme gnome on ubuntu
[04:47] <wastrel> download & install theme.
[04:47] <h1st0> drewzf: its very easy to do.
[04:47] <drewzf> I'm using Emerald
[04:47] <drewzf> And I need a theme for my panels
[04:47] <h1st0> drewzf: then download emerald themes
[04:48] <h1st0> drewzf: well those would be configured under System > preferences > Theme
[04:48] <riotkittie> uuids make my head spin
[04:48] <h1st0> riotkittie: yeah they are annoying
[04:48] <drewzf> Emerald should theme the panels too
[04:48] <ubuntulusers> Spiderpig...Spiderpig...does whatever a Spiderpig does!
[04:48] <riotkittie> i prefer the archaic /dev/whatever method  :D
[04:48] <kevinG> hey, does anyone know where I can set what sound card loads first?
[04:48] <BlackCow> so im trying to set up a home server with ubuntu but im just curious, as long as I have ports forwarded to that computer only (behind a router) its not going to put other computers on my network at risk right?
[04:48] <kevinG> i'm not sure what directory that file is in
[04:49] <drewzf> AND there is no 'Theme' under System > Preferences
[04:49] <h1st0> BlackCow: at risk from what?
[04:49] <riotkittie> drewzf: what version of ubuntu?
[04:49] <BlackCow> like from attacks
[04:49] <BlackCow> latest
[04:49] <h1st0> drewzf: what version of ubuntu areyou using?
[04:49] <riotkittie> 6.06, 7.04, 6.10?
[04:49] <drewzf> Gutsy Gibbon :)
[04:49] <BlackCow> oh sorry, 7.04 server edition i think
[04:49] <h1st0> drewzf: ahh its in System > Preferences > Appearance
[04:50] <riotkittie> well, in that case, its in pref > appearance
[04:50] <h1st0> drewzf: and gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 channel please
[04:50] <riotkittie> h1st0 has speedy fingers of doom =|
[04:50] <drewzf> h1st0, don't be ridiculous that question had nothing to do with Gutsy and there's not half the people there
[04:50] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> im trying to change the pemissions on my external hd http://pastebin.com/m289956 my fstab
[04:50] <riotkittie> you're using gutsy. therefore, it had everything to do with gutsy.
[04:50] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> in /media the hd comes up as
[04:50] <BlackCow> i meen i know the server could be at risk (i dont care that much) im just wondering if someone who knew what they were doing could use that server to attack other computers on the network
[04:51] <h1st0> drewzf: yes there are plenty of people there and it did have to do with gutsy
[04:51] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> disk
[04:51] <h1st0> drewzf: since System > Preferences > Appearance is a lot different than System > Preferences > Theme
[04:51] <h1st0> !mount > patrickkkkkkkkkk
[04:51] <BlackCow> i dont know a lot about networks and servers, thats why I am doing this partly to learn
[04:52] <drewzf> h1st0, No it didn't. You're the one that gave me the path to it ;)
[04:52] <h1st0> BlackCow: Are you worried about security ont he work stations or the server?
[04:52] <h1st0> omfg i give
[04:52] <BlackCow> erm, work stations being other computers on the same local network as the server then yes
[04:52] <kevinG> does anyone know how to get the right soundcard to load? as it stands, ubuntu seems to load a random one up at startup
[04:52] <defcon> quick Q: my X login window, when I login is a resolution too BIG, how to adjust it
[04:53] <h1st0> BlackCow: well open ports ont eh server woulodn't effeect the workstations security vulnerabilities.
[04:53] <h1st0> BlackCow: is the server availible from the outside world?
[04:53] <BlackCow> yes
[04:53] <drewzf> hmm? What did ubuntulusers do?
[04:53] <cruiserparts> setting up a crontab to run echo "hello world" every minute does not run under cron either. but it does run manually as a script.
[04:53] <MrKeuner> hi, 7.04 live cd does not start on acer aspire 9504 laptop
[04:54] <BlackCow> MrKeuner, make sure you have boot from CD set up in the bios
[04:54] <wastrel> cruiserparts: are you echoing hello world to a file?
[04:54] <MrKeuner> BlackCow: it boots from the cd but x dies complaining no screens
[04:54] <riotkittie> MrKeuner: can you elaborate on "doesnt start" ... does it boot at all?
[04:54] <riotkittie> ok never mind.
[04:55] <mustu> Hello! is there any specific channel for Ubunto l10n?
[04:55] <riotkittie> what the hay's ubunto l10n?
[04:55] <Absolute0> is there a way i can download pkgs faster with apt-get?
[04:55] <wastrel> localization
[04:55] <mustu> Ubunto Localization
[04:55] <Absolute0> any faster repositories?
[04:55] <riotkittie> ah.
[04:55] <BlackCow> so other computers on my network should be fine if I run a server (accessable from the outside world)
[04:56] <mustu> is there any?
[04:56] <h1st0> BlackCow: yes
[04:57] <h1st0> MrKeuner: try safe graphics mode
[04:57] <cruiserparts> yes. i am echoing to the file helloworldreport.  the only time hellow world shows up is when i manually start the script.
[04:57] <h1st0> !security > BlackCow
[04:57] <h1st0> BlackCow: read the message from ubotu
[04:57] <MrKeuner> h1st0: how's that possible? in grub?
[04:58] <h1st0> MrKeuner: its on the mian menu of the livecd
[04:58] <BlackCow> alright, thanks for your help, hopefully i can get things running being a server newbie
[04:58] <h1st0> MrKeuner: its on of the options
[04:58] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu is a decent mirror - seems to be full speed for me.  it should be in System | Administration | Software Sources
[04:59] <h1st0> BlackCow: A good resource for you will be help.ubuntu.com and www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:59] <chrisjs169> smacfarl, I take that back - it was doing good for a whole 10 seconds
[04:59] <h1st0> BlackCow: check those out for most your questions.  Just stay away from scripts such as automatix or envy they can really bork your system up.
[04:59] <BlackCow> ok
[05:00] <dublpaws> ipython is crashing sometimes trying to tab-complete. Does anyone know a fix?
[05:01] <BlackCow> also, what do you guys think of using something with a user interface to run a server on? Would I be best off not doing that and learning to use commands only?
[05:02] <drewzf> So what is responsible for theming gnome panels? GTK? Metacity?
[05:02] <wastrel> i thought ubuntuguide was considered harmful
[05:02] <cruiserparts> hold on.  let me see.  more info...  when i start the script by clicking on the text file script hello world runs, but when i open a terminal and type the path to that same script file, it does not run.
[05:02] <fungos__> what is the java6 plugin for firefox  package? I cant find it
[05:02] <h1st0> BlackCow: you would learn the most doing it from cli
[05:02] <DoYouKnow> BlackCow, interesting. are you aware of any gui wrappers for servers?
[05:02] <norther> wwow
[05:02] <h1st0> BlackCow: but you could install any desktop environment.  Most of your stuff is goign to be done through terminal though anyway
[05:03] <h1st0> BlackCow: you could also administer the server via a webpage if you have apache installed with webmin or something like that.  There are all sorts of options.
[05:03] <eggd> hello, im trying to download http://www.getautomatix.com/keys/automatix2.key
[05:03] <BlackCow> erm, i dunno, i heard you could use gentoo to run a server *shrugs*
[05:03] <eggd> is anyone able to?
[05:03] <BlackCow> i meen you can run a server on anything right
[05:03] <h1st0> eggd: automatix is not supported here and shouldnt' be used
[05:03] <h1st0> BlackCow: yeap pretty much.
[05:03] <BlackCow> even windows vista if you wanted to *chuckles*
[05:03] <GNine> synaptic works just fine for software lookup/nstallation/uninstallation needs
[05:03] <h1st0> BlackCow: most servers are command line based in linux though.
[05:04] <BlackCow> so yeah, i dunno, ill stick with the comand line, its the proper way
[05:04] <eggd> h1st0:  why now?
[05:04] <h1st0> BlackCow: but that doesn't stop you from installing gnome on the server if you really wanted to.
[05:04] <eggd> h1st0: why not?
[05:04] <h1st0> eggd: cuz it can really break your system.
[05:04] <fungos__> how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ???
[05:04] <h1st0> !automatix | eggd
[05:04] <ubotu> eggd: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:04] <chrisjs169> eggd, --- getautomatix.com ping statistics ---3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms
[05:04] <MrKeuner> h1st0: it does not start in safe graphics mode either..
[05:04] <BlackCow> hm, never thought of installing gnome, may take up some uncecessay processing power and RAM
[05:05] <MrKeuner> h1st0: no screens found
[05:05] <MrKeuner> h1st0: found but no usable config
[05:05] <h1st0> MrKeuner: hrm... you may want to search the forums for your model notebook ubuntuforums.org
[05:05] <h1st0> MrKeuner: You might have to specify some option like noacpi or noapic to get it going.
[05:05] <furenku__> cypher1, the problem was i hadn't installed linux-restricted-modules
[05:06] <dano> hey all, i just downloaded a program called wipe.  Is there a way to incorporate it into nautilus so i can "wipe" a file instead of delete it the normal way?
[05:06] <h1st0> dano: maybe ask the programs creator
[05:06] <Flannel> dano: shred is already available as well.
[05:06] <dano> h1st0, i thought there may be some sort of gconf editor
[05:07] <h1st0> dano: there is gconf-editor
[05:07] <norther> i cant get steam to work:( anyone able to help im using wine but obviously doing something wrong
[05:07] <samsm> h1st0: Thanks for your help earlier, turned out this was a turn it on-and-off-again thing.
[05:07] <dano> Flannel, I have shred, and i don't see that option in nautilus, any ideas?
[05:07] <Flannel> dano: you could probably create a nautilus extension easily enough.  right click > wipe.  If you look at some of the other ones out there, it shouldn't be hard to modify it
[05:07] <GNine> are you that paranoid
[05:07] <the_giver> any reason not to use ubuntu as a webserver?
[05:08] <GNine> there is no need for such a program on linux.
[05:08] <Flannel> dano: There are some nauilus extensions in the forums, and some in the repositories as well (usually package name is 'nautilus-[something')
[05:08] <fungos__> how can I look which package contains this file: libjavaplugin.so  ??? anybody!!?
[05:08] <usr13> the_giver, NO, works fine.
[05:08] <Flannel> fungos__: dpkg -S libjavaplugin.so
[05:08] <GNine> there is a server edition , the_giver
[05:08] <Flannel> the_giver: No reason not to.  No.
[05:08] <usr13> apt-get install apache and away u go.
[05:08] <jason_> is it unusual of the nearsighted people here to have to read within 2ft distance?  kinda wondering lately about the effects of computer monitors from a few hours each day.. :|
[05:09] <GNine> current monitor/CRt techNologies are very easy on the eyes.  i wouldnt worry about that
[05:09] <norther> nightsighted people?
[05:09] <the_giver> GNine,  really.. hmm cool thanks
[05:10] <GNine> aside that, do take a break to check if the outside world is still out there , would ya
[05:10] <usr13> Someone's accusing us of being nearsighted people?!?!
[05:10] <norther> actually crt monitors aren't good at all, lcd+ is good though
[05:10] <riotkittie> jason_: depends on the severity of the nearsightedness...
[05:10] <usr13> depends on the severity of the people!  :)
[05:11] <jason_> riotkittie, is that severity very uncommon you think?  2ft max for focal point.
[05:11] <Lindar> Okay, so my hard drive is corrupt. It says that there's a bad superblock. What's the command I have to run to repair it? I have a lot of junk installed just to get my wifi card to work, and I don't want to have to reinstall it.
[05:11] <usr13> fsdk -y
[05:12] <riotkittie> outside...? world?  what is this madness, GNine :o
[05:12] <h1st0> Lindar: read what usr13 said
[05:12] <Lindar> fsck -y doesn't do anything
[05:12] <Sonicadvance1> Hello. I'm wondering. in my timidity.cfg file. I have a bunch of settings I can uncomment to make it use less CPU power. I have a SF2 file already that I'm using so no one suggest getting a better SF2 file. but I'm wondering if there are any settings I can set in the timidity.cfg file to make the music sound better?
[05:12] <usr13> Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda
[05:12] <usr13> or fsck -y /dev/hdb    whatever...
[05:13] <GNine> riotkittie, i hope you have also been in touch with your inner world as well..
[05:13] <usr13> or fsck -y /dev/hdb1 or 2 etc.    whatever...
[05:13] <h1st0> Lindar: the -y option tells it to fix the errors
[05:13] <Lindar> the superblock could not be read blah blah blah....
[05:13] <dn> what's the support channel that's for gutsy?
[05:13] <Flannel> dn: #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <GNine> !gutsy
[05:13] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:13] <usr13> Lindar, e.g.  fsck -y  /dev/hda2  or... whatever...
[05:13] <dn> thanks Flannel
[05:14] <Lindar> How do I find out which one is my primary drive?
[05:14] <Lindar> hda1 is my backup drive...
[05:14] <usr13> Lindar, How do you know you have a bad spot, (and don't know which partition it it?)
[05:14] <nrdb> I have created a unionfs in initrd of the from the what was the root and another rw partition.  I have checked the unionfs and it appears ok.  The problem is that when I boot it seems to get stuck in a loop using 100% CPU and never actually boots, any ideas on how to find out what the problem is ?
[05:15] <yurimxpxman> what does alt+print scrn+l do?
[05:15] <Lindar> I can't boot. grub gives either error 24 or 25.
[05:15] <usr13> Lindar:  don't know which partition it is?
[05:15] <Lindar> I just can't boot into my primary drive. GRUB screws up....
[05:15] <h1st0> Lindar: well the bad superblock may be part of the issue
[05:15] <h1st0> Lindar: fdisk -l will list your drives
[05:16] <GNine> Lindar, have you looked in your device manager lately
[05:16] <usr13> Lindar, Just all partitions that you suspect have problems.
[05:17] <usr13> Lindar, Wait, is grub broken?  Or do you have a bad HD?
[05:17] <Lindar> Dunno...
[05:17] <Lindar> Grub loading.... Error 24 (or 25).
[05:17] <GNine> Lindar, has a one multi-angle question going on
[05:18] <vinboy> hi
[05:18] <usr13> Lindar, So, when did you start having this problem?
[05:18] <vinboy> anyone know how to make D4X show KB/s   or Mb/s instead of just B/s ?
[05:18] <Lindar> It's been happening, it's just that it goes away after a few reboots.
[05:18] <Juggie> anyone know why ndiswrapper loads as wlan0 and then switches to eth1?
[05:18] <usr13> Lindar, Is there a particular event that happened that you might suspect as having an effect on the drive or boot loader?
[05:19] <usr13> Lindar, What drive do you have Linux on?
[05:19] <GNine> i hope Lindar has a live cd handy
[05:19] <usr13> Lindar, hda hdb hdc  sda sdb sdc etc?
[05:20] <norther> Omg
[05:20] <Lindar> I don't know...
[05:20] <usr13> Lindar,  You don't know?
[05:21] <usr13> Lindar, Boot to a live CD and look and see.
[05:21] <h1st0> Lindar: look at the output of fdisk -l
[05:21] <silent> hey guys, how do I make ssh fully transparent? my modifiers aren't going through properly. (ctrl+s wont register)
[05:21] <usr13> Lindar, Boot a live CD and  do as hlst0 says:  fdisk -l
[05:22] <unicode> !opera
[05:22] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:22] <GNine> check all firewall
[05:22] <GNine> (s)
[05:23] <Lindar> fdisk -l doesn't do anything
[05:23] <norther> I am having troubles with installing my video drivers. i have an nvidia geforce 6600, i went to the nvidia website and downloaded the linux version and i ended up getting a .RUN file... but the system keeps saying it doesnt recognize .RUN files... can anyone help?
[05:23] <silent> sudo fdisk -l newbie
[05:23] <usr13> Lindar, sudo fdisk -l
[05:23] <Lindar> silent: sorry, asshole
[05:23] <silent> <3
[05:24] <h1st0> norther: just use the restricted drivers manager to install them.
[05:24] <kevinO> !ohmy | Lindar
[05:24] <ubotu> Lindar: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <kevinO> lol, ive always wanted to do that
[05:24] <h1st0> norther: System > Adminsitration > Restricted Drivers
[05:24] <silent> I forgot to
[05:24] <Lindar> hdb1 is the swap, hdb2 is the linux drive.
[05:24] <usr13> Lindar, How many hard drives do you have in this PC?
[05:24] <Lindar> 2
[05:24] <h1st0> Lindar: fsck -y /dev/hdb
[05:25] <Lindar> one is ntfs backup
[05:25] <usr13> Lindar,  fsck -y /dev/hda2
[05:25] <unicode> !cedega
[05:25] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:25] <silent> sudo rm -r /* ?
[05:25] <h1st0> !ops
[05:25] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:25] <GNine> ntfs backup.. you better forget about that one to fix you LINUX issue
[05:25] <open-gl> !ops
[05:25] <Amaranth> open-gl: ...
[05:26] <open-gl> ???
[05:26] <norther> hlts0 it says nvidia accelerated graphics driver is in use. but it just doesnt seem like it
[05:26] <Amaranth> open-gl: Why did you call for ops?
[05:26] <norther> hlst0 everything is still choppy
[05:26] <h1st0> norther: well youc an glxinfo | grep render to see if it is
[05:26] <Lindar> It still says it can't read the superblock...
[05:26] <open-gl> i didnt
[05:26] <nalioth> Amaranth: language
[05:26] <Lindar> So it wont repair it...
[05:26] <kevinO> uhh
[05:27] <h1st0> norther: to use the driver from nvidia.com you'd have to sudo sh NVIDIABLALblahblah.run
[05:27] <open-gl> just by typing it doesnt mean you will get it
[05:27] <Amaranth> open-gl: it goes, actually
[05:27] <usr13> Lindar, so you did fdisk -l /dev/hda2   and it was unable to fix it?
[05:27] <norther> hlst0, ah ty ill try that
[05:27] <silent> Lindar, what are you trying to do? maybe I can help
[05:27] <usr13> Lindar, Then, you will need to discard the drive and get a good one, and start over.
[05:28] <open-gl> i dont see any op for me then
[05:28] <open-gl> so it doesnt work
[05:28] <h1st0> Amaranth: I did for silent
[05:28] <Amaranth> open-gl: I'm here
[05:28] <usr13> Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb2
[05:28] <norther> hlst0 it says it is unable to run it.
[05:29] <open-gl> i know your here but no op
[05:29] <open-gl> it's just a command given to some people maybe
[05:29] <kevinO> Amaranth, h1sto called ops for silent, open-gl was just plyin i think
[05:29] <GNine> you got 2 hdd's, two OS (on the same puter) and you have no clue whats going on.. you cant even name your drives.. hopeless
[05:29] <Lindar> fdisk -l brings up the partition table for that drive.
[05:29] <Lindar> fsck -y doesn't do anything.
[05:29] <usr13> Lindar,  Did you do:     fsck -y /dev/hdb2
[05:29] <logreeval> Is there a seperate gaming IRC Channel for ubuntu?
[05:29] <Amaranth> open-gl: Don't be so sure :)
[05:29] <usr13> Lindar,  Did you do:    sudo  fsck -y /dev/hdb2
[05:30] <Lindar> oui
[05:30] <Lindar> I will try once again.
[05:30] <Amaranth> open-gl: It doesn't give you operator powers, it calls for the operators
[05:30] <silent> the ops are fast I'm surprised. good work guys
[05:30] <Lindar> The superblock cannot be read or does not describe something something blah blah blah....
[05:31] <silent> o_O
[05:31] <usr13> Lindar, Then you will need another HD.
[05:31] <Amaranth> GNine: TMI
[05:31] <Amaranth> usr13: No, just a dead superblock
[05:31] <open-gl> well then i didnt know a command like that can op someone
[05:31] <silent> Lindar, you can put your console output in a pastebin for easy access for people helping
[05:31] <Amaranth> usr13: there are backups you can point it to but i don't remember how to find what they are
[05:31] <silent> such as pastebin.ca
[05:31] <GNine> Amaranth, am not too good at shorthand
[05:31] <open-gl> but you dont see me with it
[05:31] <Lindar> I'm not on the same computer.
[05:32] <Lindar> I'm on one comp and running to the broken one to run the commands.
[05:32] <Amaranth> GNine: Too Much Information, we didn't need to know that
[05:32] <silent> ssh in
[05:32] <logreeval> I am looking for a game similar to Halo that is linux native and has a store, aka doesn't have to be networked and played online...anyone know any games liket hat?
[05:32] <open-gl> so is everything fine then
[05:32] <usr13> Amaranth, Yes, that is right.  That could mean that the partition table is corrupt.
[05:32] <etzerd> Hello all
[05:32] <usr13> Amaranth, You might try recovering the partition table
[05:32] <silent> Lindar, if you're on windows run putty to ssh in or if you're on linux type ssh -l <login name> <ip> to ssh to the broken computer
[05:32] <GNine> oh well.. maybe Lindar only needs to catch a break.  it helps clear the mind , yknow?
[05:32] <Amaranth> usr13: Bad shutdown or something could have done it
[05:32] <usr13> Lindar, sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:33] <Lindar> The broken machine can't be networked right now.
[05:33] <etzerd> I just install ubuntu 7.10 Beta in my system, and now I don't have the boot manager where I can select the operating system that I wont
[05:33] <silent> Lindar, what is broken about it?
[05:33] <Lindar> I can't boot. GRUB gives error 24 or 25.
[05:33] <imyut> hi
[05:33] <etzerd> when ubuntu boot it give me a grub loader but both options are for ubuntu not the other operating system that on the system
[05:34] <silent> are you running livecd or somthing?
[05:34] <usr13> Lindar, Don't need the network.  DO:    sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:34] <Amaranth> usr13: hdb won't have a superblock
[05:34] <kdubois> is there any way to force a wireless card to join a network? i have two networks in range, and it won't join the other one....
[05:34] <Amaranth> Lindar: what partition is it? first one on the second drive?
[05:34] <silent> kdubois, you can join any available network that is supported by your hardware
[05:34] <GNine> check your firewalls
[05:34] <silent> kdubois, so long as you have proper access
[05:34] <usr13> Amaranth, But I want to see what error he might get if he does   fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:35] <usr13> Lindar,   What does     fdisk -l /dev/hdb     say
[05:35] <Amaranth> usr13: right but running fsck on hdb would obviously tell you there is no superblock
[05:35] <GNine> and, there is no "forcing" involved in that.. once the network is detected proper permissions need to be set
[05:35] <h1st0> Amaranth: its on hdb2 according to him.
[05:36] <Amaranth> Lindar: sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb2
[05:36] <usr13> Amaranth, Yes, I would imagine so, (if in fact, the partition table is corrupted)
[05:36] <Amaranth> Lindar: that'll use one of the backup superblocks so it can read the partition correctly
[05:36] <kdubois> silent: i do have access to both, but it always connects to the AP with internet, when I want it to connect to the other one
[05:36] <Lindar> The partition is /dev/hdb2
[05:36] <Amaranth> usr13: My partition table is fine but running fsck on the drive itself will give that error because it's running on the drive instead of the partition
[05:36] <Lindar> that's the linux part
[05:36] <Lindar> hdb1 is the swap
[05:36] <Amaranth> Lindar: run the command i gave
[05:37] <silent> kdubios, sudo iwconfig <wlan0?> essid <network name>
[05:37] <silent> or choose it in network settings under network properties
[05:37] <GNine> system > network  and  network tools   should be able to help
[05:37] <Lindar> Amaranth: It didn't work.
[05:38] <Amaranth> Lindar: What did it say?
[05:38] <Lindar> Same thing it's been saying.
[05:38] <puff> I have too many files in a directory, the "ls" command results in:  bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long
[05:38] <Pepperrr> How can I get a list of installed packages via apt-get?
[05:38] <silent> Lindar, is hdb messed up?
[05:38] <puff> I tried piping it through xargs, but that didn't work.
[05:38] <Pepperrr> *packages installed with apt-get
[05:38] <Amaranth> Pepperrr: dpkg --get-selections
[05:38] <usr13>  Lindar:  Did you do:      sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb2     ?
[05:38] <Lindar> I'm on the live CD right now. It just keeps saying it can't read superblock or something...
[05:39] <Amaranth> Pepperrr: that'll give you the status of every package to ever touch your system
[05:39] <Lindar> I did exactly this:   sudo fsck -f -b 16385 /dev/hdb2
[05:39] <lumpycam>  puff - try ls /path |grep wc -l
[05:39] <Pepperrr> Amaranth: What about ones installed after I installed Ubuntu?
[05:39] <Amaranth> Lindar: ok, listen to usr13 then :)
[05:39] <Amaranth> Pepperrr: them too
[05:40] <Amaranth> Lindar: if it can't even read the backup superblock you have something bigger wrong
[05:40] <elp> It seems like my system doesn't have any OpenGL libraries which i need to install a game =[
[05:40] <silent> Lindar, did this drive just recently become corrupted or is this a new drive or a new install on an old drive?
[05:40] <Pepperrr> Amaranth: No, I mean just ones I've apt-getted after Ubuntu was installed, so I could easy re-download them after a fresh install?
[05:40] <usr13> Lindar,   What does    sudo fdisk -l     say about hdb?  ANything?
[05:40] <Lindar> It's an old drive and it's been corrupted before. Is there absolutely any way to recover it?
[05:41] <Lindar> hdb has 3 bits to it...
[05:41] <Amaranth> Pepperrr: It'll just show all packages
[05:41] <kelvie> Is there a way to tell apt-get to install deps only?
[05:41] <kelvie> and not the actual package?
[05:41] <Amaranth> Lindar: The only way I know of to recover data from a dead HD is to send it somewhere
[05:41] <Amaranth> Lindar: Very expensive
[05:41] <Lindar> 1 is swap, 2 is linux, 3 is some sort of NTFS thing....
[05:41] <Scunizi> Amaranth, What would you use to find only the programs that the user has installed.. not the entire system?
[05:42] <usr13> Lindar,   "hdb has 3 bits to it"?
[05:42] <t3318> anyone know how to change the default desktop themes for new user in Ubuntu?
[05:43] <ezzieyguywuf> system>preferences>themes
[05:43] <t3318> oh
[05:43] <ezzieyguywuf> does anyone here know what a safe operating temp for a lenovo t60p is?
[05:43] <Amaranth> Scunizi: No need, you can just save the output of --get-selections, feed it to the new computer with --set-selections, then run apt-get dselect-upgrade and it'll install all the stuff from that list that isn't already installed
[05:43] <Lindar> usr13: assume I have a vagina....
[05:43] <t3318> i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme
[05:43] <ezzieyguywuf> mine usually runs aroun 150 degress F  on feisty with compiz running.....
[05:44] <Amaranth> Lindar: What does that have to do with anything?
[05:44] <t3318> ezzieyguywuf: i mean when we create the new user, he will see the customized defautl theme
[05:44] <Scunizi> Amaranth, the problem being some of the programs aren't installed via apt..
[05:44] <usr13> Lindar,   The drive has 3 partitions - right?   hda1 hda2 and hda3
[05:44] <Amaranth> Scunizi: In that case you just have to know
[05:44] <usr13> Lindar, Sounds like a lost cause.
[05:44] <Lindar> Amaranth: I'm dumb and female. I know nothing about this stuff, I just wanted to try it out so I know how it works.
[05:44] <Scunizi> Amaranth, :)
[05:44] <ezzieyguywuf> t3318: i only have one user on my comp, but i imagine that each user (with sufficient priveleges) could set their own themes
[05:44] <Amaranth> t3318: you can use /etc/skel
[05:44] <Lindar> usr13: Yes.
[05:45] <bruenig> Scunizi, if you circumvent package management, you can't expect that it will work
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Lindar: gender is irrelevent
[05:45] <Amaranth> t3318: if you put your .gconf in there all new users will get your .gconf so all your settings
[05:45] <usr13> Lindar,   If you cannot do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb       I'd just toss it.
[05:45] <t3318> Amaranth: oh
[05:45] <t3318> Amaranth: I will try it :)
[05:45] <Lindar> usr13: I can. It tells me that there are three partitions on that hard drive.
[05:45] <Scunizi> bruenig, true.. however Mapivi is a pretty good program despite a slightly klunky feel.
[05:45] <crush_groove> hello room
[05:45] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone got any idea on what a safe operating temp is? my lenovo t60p on avg runs at about 150 degrees F
[05:45] <robert_> is there a proxy application I can use that logs the traffic which passes through it?
[05:45] <bruenig> Scunizi, well don't really understand what your point is there
[05:45] <Amaranth> t3318: I would create a new user, change the theme, then put it's ~/.gconf in /etc/skel
[05:45] <t3318> Amaranth: But currently, Ubuntu doesn't have .gconf in skel
[05:46] <crush_groove> I was getting a bad device error in my shell when I tryed to use any kind of app from the shell .. so I googled the prob and found from an ubuntu forum I needed to edit my xorg.conf. file /../ so I did
[05:46] <Amaranth> t3318: you put it there
[05:46] <crush_groove> I then restarted xwin with ctrl alt bckspce\
[05:46] <t3318> Amaranth: How can Ubuntu define the default theme?
[05:46] <thedonvaughn> ezzieyguywuf, I'm sure google knows
[05:46] <h1st0> Amaranth: what is skel for?
[05:46] <ezzieyguywuf> i've tried looking
[05:46] <Amaranth> t3318: The default gconf schema
[05:46] <crush_groove> nd it shut everythingdown . when I reboot it trys to load ... then goes to a blinking curor .. I cntrl alt f1 .. and get into the shell and replace the file I altered with the backup .. and it still wont boot
[05:46] <ezzieyguywuf> i keep getting user manuals and whatnot
[05:46] <h1st0> Amaranth: skeleton for new users or something?
[05:46] <Lindar> ezzieyguywuf: I don't know what that is, but a safe core temp is 35-45c. Anything higher and it may be close to damaging it. 55-60c is cutting it close.
[05:46] <crush_groove> so I go back in and do a .. /etc/init.d/kdm restart and it shows the kdm starting yet when I reboot .,.,nuthin
[05:46] <t3318> Amaranth: ah ha
[05:46] <Amaranth> t3318: anything in /etc/skel gets put into a new user's home dir when you create it
[05:46] <Scunizi> bruenig, asked and answered.. dpkg will only report what has been installed via apt.  anything outside of that "you just have to know" what it is, make a list and reinstall with a new system.
[05:47] <Amaranth> t3318: it == the user
[05:47] <h1st0> Amaranth: nvm cool very nice
[05:47] <t3318> Amaranth: yeh, i try it now
[05:47] <usr13> Lindar,   If you cam do     sudo fdisk /dev/hdb         You might just start over, re-partition it and see if it is usable.
[05:47] <Lindar> I don't want to reinstall all of that junk, though. ;-;
[05:47] <h1st0> Lindar: is yoru /home directory on a seperate partition?
[05:47] <GNine> all your system and settings needs can be researched by .. hmm.. system >   and    settings >  menu .. system
[05:47] <Amaranth> oh, h1st0 was asking that question, not t3318
[05:47] <Amaranth> oops
[05:47] <Lindar> I went through so much trouble getting the netgear wifi thing working...
[05:47] <ezzieyguywuf> the one website i found says max operating temp at 35 C and i'm at 61C. thats well over twice!!!!
[05:47] <Lindar> No, /home/ is on the linux part... hdb2
[05:47] <Amaranth> Scunizi: that's why you should use the package manager for everything :)
[05:47] <ezzieyguywuf> so i don't know if i need to be worried....
[05:48] <h1st0> Lindar: SO i left fsck was unable to fix /dev/hdb2?
[05:48] <Amaranth> ezzieyguywuf: No computer part has a max temp of 35 C
[05:48] <usr13> Lindar, Then put another drive in, install and recover what you cann of the old one.
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> ezzieyguywuf: what processor?  (35 C is clearly wrong)
[05:48] <Lindar> h1st0: yes
[05:48] <ezzieyguywuf> *sigh of relief*
[05:48] <Amaranth> ezzieyguywuf: my CPU's max temp is 100 C and my GPU's max temp is 110 C
[05:48] <ezzieyguywuf> oh! thats environmental temp
[05:48] <ezzieyguywuf> hehehehe
[05:48] <Amaranth> ezzieyguywuf: you're fine :)
[05:48] <niloc> #vague
[05:48] <usr13> Lindar, Not sure what to tell you, really.
[05:48] <ezzieyguywuf> amaranth: thanks, you've put me at ease
[05:49] <niloc> help
[05:49] <Scunizi> Amaranth, I do. but mapivi is one of the exceptions.  It's the only program that will imbed exif and other info into jpg's
[05:49] <Lindar> blar
[05:49] <GNine> lol
[05:49] <Lindar> I'll just deal with it, I guess.
[05:49] <GNine> 110C temp.. ok..
[05:49] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks guys :-D
[05:49] <Lindar> Amaranth: My mobo maxes at 40-43c, my cpu runs at about 50c.
[05:50] <Lindar> anyway... time to reformat my crappy hdd... yaaay lost data!
[05:50] <Amaranth> Lindar: Right but that's idle/running temp, not max temp
[05:50] <Amaranth> Lindar: I would not keep using that HD
[05:50] <Scunizi> Amaranth, also ipsc info.. without using an external database or some type of internal database
[05:50] <Amaranth> GNine: Why would I do that?
[05:50] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm using the system temp checker and theres one for thmo and one for thm1. they're both the same it looks like, but thmo has an * next to it. anyone know what this is about?
[05:51] <GNine> to buy a better cooling system for your rig
[05:51] <usr13> Amaranth is right.  If it's giving you that much trouble, you should recover what you want off it and move on.
[05:51] <Amaranth> GNine: I said max temp
[05:51] <ezzieyguywuf> also, in preferences it asks me which zone to monitor and offers "ACPI" and "IBM ACPI". i'm running a t60p with core duo and an ATI mobility card so i don't know what that ACPI is
[05:51] <Amaranth> GNine: Not the max I get to, the max the thing can withstand. Although I have a laptop so I can't add more cooling :)
[05:52] <GNine> godspeed bro
[05:52] <Amaranth> GNine: I actually idle with the CPU at 48C and the GPU at 42C
[05:52] <GNine> that is alright
[05:52] <robert_> is there a proxy application I can use/install that logs the traffic which passes through it?
[05:52] <GNine> still too hot.. then again that IS a laptop
[05:52] <robert_> e.g. I want the contents of what passes through the proxy
[05:53] <HealthyElijah> Amaranth: u using the latest gutsy release?
[05:54] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: Up to date as of 30 minutes ago :)
[05:54] <HealthyElijah> k
[05:54] <dotjay> i have just got ubuntu 7.04 and wheneer i try to install it from the CD after the installation start i get an error message after the splash screen "/bin/sh:can't access tty job contribute off"
[05:54] <HealthyElijah> it said in the improv list that it would help reduce burning lap syndrome ;)
[05:54] <ezzieyguywuf> amaranth: how do you monitor CPU and GPU temps separately. and what is GPU :P
[05:54] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: hehe, my laptop is doomed anyway
[05:54] <HealthyElijah> graphics
[05:55] <ezzieyguywuf> haha healthy
[05:55] <ezzieyguywuf> oh ok
[05:55] <ezzieyguywuf> what do you use to monitor them separate?
[05:55] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: it certainly runs cooler thanks to dyntick and making apps go to sleep when they aren't doing stuff but my laptop has thermal issues
[05:55] <chris__> whats the channel for compiz etc desktop effects?
[05:55] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: was the first Core Duo laptop HP sold
[05:55] <dotjay> what is the problem is there any problem with my system or is that the problem with the CD
[05:55] <Amaranth> chris__: #ubuntu-effects
[05:55] <HealthyElijah> is your fan workin' :)
[05:56] <Curs0r> gnome is taking a long time to start up, when it does there is an error about the settings daemon even though I launched the daemon so I know it's running
[05:56] <h1st0> dotjay: Check the cd for dfects
[05:56] <Amaranth> ezzieyguywuf: I have nvidia so I use nvidia-settings to monitor my GPU temp
[05:56] <h1st0> dotjay: err /s/dfects/defects
[05:56] <ezzieyguywuf> amaranth: your talkin about gutsy? it has better temp control (via app-sleep or w/e?)
[05:56] <ezzieyguywuf> oh i see
[05:56] <ezzieyguywuf> i have ATI so i don't know if i have that option
[05:56] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm running fglrx
[05:56] <HealthyElijah> set it on top off a bowl of ice ;)
[05:56] <phoo_> cypher1, im furenku - i fixed the wifi issue - im now using it
[05:56] <HealthyElijah> a big mixing bowl
[05:57] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: It runs but it just runs warm
[05:57] <dotjay> but when i start that option i get stuck i tried changing the CD it says the same thing
[05:57] <HealthyElijah> and then just tape it to it and carry that around wherever you go
[05:57] <Amaranth> No worries, going to toss it soon
[05:57] <Amaranth> Literally, I have a good warranty ;)
[05:57] <HealthyElijah> carry a cooler with you with extra ice
[05:57] <dotjay> the problem is not with the cd
[05:57] <Amaranth> dotjay: Ah, I've seen this problem
[05:58] <GNine> i've seen cool designes for external laptop cooling devices
[05:58] <GNine> *designs
[05:58] <dotjay> Amarnath: so how can i fix this problem?
[05:58] <HealthyElijah> this channel has almost twice as many as teh linux channel
[05:58] <Scunizi> Curs0r, at the end of your "kernal" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst insert "irqpoll". that might fix it.
[05:58] <Amaranth> dotjay: Try the Ubuntu 7.10 Beta cd instead, looks like that's a hardware support issue
[05:59] <ezzieyguywuf> oh, this might be off topic, but i'm looking for some .wav files for alerts (like in thunderbird and whatnot) to replace the system beeps
[05:59] <HealthyElijah> dotjay: I second Amaranth
[05:59] <ezzieyguywuf> is there anywhere i can get a package or something?
[05:59] <dotjay> sure
[05:59] <dotjay> but how could that be i have i845G gigabyte
[05:59] <Amaranth> dotjay: Intel motherboard with a jmicron sata controller
[06:00] <HealthyElijah> you mean iram?
[06:00] <dotjay> with 512 MB RAM 40 GB samsung
[06:00] <Amaranth> dotjay: Is it a newer motherboard
[06:00] <Amaranth> dotjay: Newer meaning less than a year old
[06:00] <dotjay> bbut that has supported 6.06 and previous versions
[06:00] <ezzieyguywuf> amaranth: you recomend gutsy or wait for official release?
[06:00] <Amaranth> dotjay: Odd
[06:00] <piripak> hi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?
[06:00] <HealthyElijah> gutsy is darn near official
[06:01] <Amaranth> dotjay: Either way, try the 7.10 beta
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> yea?
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> i mean, my main concern is fglrx
[06:01] <Amaranth> dotjay: Your bug is never going to be fixed with 7.04 but there is still a chance with 7.10 (it isn't final yet)
[06:01] <HealthyElijah> dont think they are gonna make any major changes when just weeks away
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> it was such a pain getting it configed
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> and workin with 3d and compiz
[06:01] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: We are tweaking stuff a lot
[06:01] <dotjay> Amarnath but I bought this PC 2 yrs back
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> is there a website i can visit to see what changes were made from feisty?
[06:01] <HealthyElijah> nice
[06:01] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: Just yesterday I made 4 changes to the way compiz works
[06:02] <HealthyElijah> you a programmer Cool!
[06:02] <Amaranth> dotjay: It's a regression then, either way try 7.10
[06:02] <eggd> what codecs should i install?
[06:02] <HealthyElijah> I hope to be able to contirbute to this project someday
[06:02] <eggd> for common mp3, avi, dvd usage
[06:02] <Amaranth> eggd: If you're using 7.04 it will install them as needed
[06:03] <Amaranth> eggd: Except for the dvd one, that you have to do manually
[06:03] <HealthyElijah> Amaranth: How long have you been involved
[06:03] <g3r4kvn> hello!
[06:03] <g3r4kvn> n00b here
[06:03] <ezzieyguywuf> hey me too!
[06:03] <g3r4kvn> : )
[06:03] <ezzieyguywuf> been usin feisty since saturday :-D
[06:03] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm really likin so far, how bout you g3?
[06:03] <novato_br> dudes, i download the gusty's iso, how can i update my feisty fawn to gusty ?
[06:03] <g3r4kvn> i just finished installing : )
[06:04] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: Been using Ubuntu since the first release, contributing since early 2005
[06:04] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:04] <ezzieyguywuf> i don't think oyu need the iso, can anyone confirm that?
[06:04] <g3r4kvn> i tried SUSE and KNOPPIX before, now im with... Gudalinex :P
[06:04] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: correct.  You don't need the CD/iso to upgrade.
[06:04] <ezzieyguywuf> g3: what machine are you running it on
[06:04] <g3r4kvn> but i have serious issues with my sound card ;_;
[06:04] <ezzieyguywuf> gudalinex? haven't heard of it
[06:04] <g3r4kvn> im on a Acer Aspire
[06:04] <ezzieyguywuf> i see
[06:04] <novato_br> but sudo apt-get upgrade, is it install updates from net?
[06:05] <g3r4kvn> guadalinex is a local from spain...
[06:05] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: g3r4kvn: Me too
[06:05] <novato_br> i want to update with iso !
[06:05] <ezzieyguywuf> i been thinkin about giving linux mint a walk around the park
[06:05] <Amaranth> novato_br: sudo update-manager -d
[06:05] <Amaranth> novato_br: Oh, you _want_ to use the ISO
[06:05] <HealthyElijah> Amaranth: Is an update recommended or clean install
[06:05] <Amaranth> novato_br: In that case you need to burn it
[06:05] <novato_br> yep, Amaranth
[06:05] <Amaranth> novato_br: Or mount it but that's a little trickier
[06:05] <novato_br> doesnt has other way?
[06:06] <riotkittie> how bizzarre
[06:06] <Amaranth> novato_br: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the.iso /media/cdrom
[06:06] <HealthyElijah> Been using Fiesty since 1 month ago
[06:06] <piripak>  hi!. quick question, in "wget http://something.com/text.txt -O- | sudo apt-key add -", what does the -O- stand for?
[06:06] <g3r4kvn> anyone from spain or latinamerica or wishing to help me with my sound card issues?
[06:06] <HealthyElijah> Still have no clue of big picture
[06:06] <Amaranth> novato_br: Hopefully it'll pop up automatically and ask if you want to upgrade
[06:06] <novato_br> thx, Amaranth
[06:07] <Amaranth> piripak: Tells wget to output to stdout
[06:07] <Amaranth> piripak: instead of writing to a file
[06:07] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: what do you mean big picture?
[06:07] <HealthyElijah> Hey Amaranth what browser do you use? FF or Opera?
[06:07] <nickrud> Amaranth: how does having net installed stuff affect an iso upgrade? I'd guess there might be some holds and/or conficts
[06:07] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: What all teh files do from root
[06:08] <Amaranth> nickrud: It'll download from the net
[06:08] <piripak> Amaranth: I assume stdout is like a temporary place. I will start from that on my next google search. thanks
[06:08] <riotkittie> hm. it's not possible to install ubuntu from a mounted iso a la slackware, is it? =|
[06:08] <Amaranth> HealthyElijah: I use epiphany
[06:08] <HealthyElijah> Like how C and C++ work and how to compile programs etc
[06:08] <Amaranth> piripak: stdout is the output on the terminal
[06:08] <HealthyElijah> Amaranth: thanks
[06:08] <Flannel> piripak: standard output
[06:08] <Amaranth> piripak: the | is called a pipe, it pipes the output to another app
[06:09] <novato_br> amadeux,
[06:09] <novato_br> i did
[06:09] <Amaranth> piripak: so you're telling wget to output the URL instead of writing it to a file then telling apt-key to read that
[06:09] <novato_br> but it's not asked for me to install
[06:09] <Amaranth> novato_br: I can't remember what to do then and I don't have a copy of the iso here to look
[06:10] <piripak> Amaranth: and the last - (in | apt-key add -) is exactly where you should input the file you just read, is that it?
[06:10] <Flannel> novato_br: Is it the alternate CD?
[06:10] <Amaranth> novato_br: There should be a shell script or something on the main dir of the iso you run to make it trigger to upgrade
[06:10] <novato_br> ok
[06:10] <novato_br> no Flannel
[06:10] <novato_br> i have cd desktop install of gusty
[06:10] <t3318_> Amaranth: I copy .gconf* .gnome* .icons .metacity .nautilus .themes into the /etc/skel
[06:10] <Amaranth> piripak: that tells apt-key to read from stdin, the pipe (|) turns wget's stdout into apt-key's stdin
[06:11] <Flannel> novato_br: you need the alternate CD to do an upgrade from an ISO.
[06:11] <t3318_> Amaranth: But new user ca'nt load the expected desktop
[06:11] <Flannel> novato_br, Amaranth: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[06:11] <t3318_> Amaranth: there's only a brown background
[06:11] <t3318_> nothing else!
[06:11] <Amaranth> t3318_: I told you to make a new user, make that one change, and copy only the .gconf
[06:11] <ezzieyguywuf> is there any way to take KDE for a test drive with feisty, or do i have to just run it off a live Cd of Kubuntu feisty
[06:11] <Amaranth> t3318_: You can't copy stuff from your current user blindly and expect it to work
[06:11] <piripak> Amaranth: this is very clear. thanks
[06:12] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: you could install it on your install.  That might be less test-drivey than youre looking for.
[06:12] <t3318_> Amaranth: uhm
[06:12] <t3318_> Amaranth: I can only change in the .gconf folder?
[06:12] <novato_br> thx
[06:12] <Amaranth> t3318_: No but a lot of stuff in ~/.gnome2 only works with your current user, iirc
[06:13] <novato_br> dont work, Flannel
[06:13] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: could i, say, choose on boot to run KDE or GNOME?
[06:13] <Flannel> novato_br: You need the alternate CD, like I said.
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> !doesn'twork
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn'twork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: Not on boot, on login, but yeah.
[06:14] <novato_br> thx, flacom
[06:14] <novato_br> thx, flannel
[06:14] <novato_br> but i don't have the alternative cd
[06:14] <ezzieyguywuf> login, yea, cool
[06:14] <ezzieyguywuf> i might do that
[06:14] <IceGuest_7> O-kay.  I'm having dire wifi issues, what should I try? :\
[06:14] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm sure i could easily find a howto right, prob a common thing to do
[06:14] <novato_br> how can I update with cd desktop ubuntu gutsy ?
[06:14] <Amaranth> novato_br: Oh, you have the desktop cd?
[06:14] <IndyGunFreak> i just did clean installs of gutsy on my laptop and Desktop, smooth as silk
[06:14] <Amaranth> novato_br: That can only do new installs, not upgrades
[06:14] <novato_br> yep
[06:15] <t3318_> Amaranth: aha
[06:15] <novato_br> why?
[06:15] <Amaranth> novato_br: Because it doesn't have any packages on it
[06:15] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , done. There's your howto :)
[06:15] <Amaranth> novato_br: The Desktop CD has a full working install on it that gets copied onto your HD when you do an install
[06:15] <novato_br> i'll cry
[06:16] <Hornet> I'm using Mint, but apparently the issue belongs to the underlying Ubuntu. :(
[06:16] <novato_br> should I have download the alternative version?
[06:16] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: really that easy?
[06:16] <Amaranth> novato_br: There is no possible way to upgrade using that iso, burned or not
[06:16] <Amaranth> novato_br: Yes
[06:16] <Hornet> I've tried a fair bit of faffing, but to no avail.
[06:16] <novato_br> i'll cry, dudes
[06:16] <Amaranth> novato_br: Although it's easier to just do an internet upgrade
[06:16] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: yes. same for xubuntu-desktop (xfce)
[06:16] <novato_br> my net is very slow
[06:16] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: i'd hate to have some compatibilty issues or whatnot
[06:16] <Amaranth> novato_br: If your /home is on a separate partition you could just do a new install
[06:16] <novato_br> it tooks more 17hours to take the iso
[06:16] <ezzieyguywuf> but i guess that'd be confined to my KDE session huh....
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> 17hrs?
[06:16] <illusina> Can someone help me out? I can't get firefox to use my external usb mixer, but other programs work fine with it..using feisty, the mixer is a alesis multimix, I get nothing from "asoundconf list", but I do have a few options in my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file that seem to be pertaining to the mixer that I've tried toying with to no avail
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> wow.
[06:17] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up a cryptfs device, et cetera?
[06:17] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: except for kde being a lesser desktop, no conflicts. They coexist nicely
[06:17] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: Well, you can do a fresh install with that CD.  If you've got your home folder on its own partition, that's ok.
[06:17] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel:man i had a hard time with my partitioning
[06:18] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: i think it had something to do with windows taking up 2 partitions, swap taking another, then i could only use one more
[06:18] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: You can have as many partitions as you want, you just need to make them logical partitins
[06:18] <tylermenezes> i had a problem with my partitioning too
[06:18] <IndyGunFreak> why would someone mess up a perfectly good Ubuntu install with KDE?
[06:19] <Amaranth> ezzieyguywuf: You can only have 4 primary partitions but you could have made that last spot into a place to put as many extended partitions as you wanted
[06:19] <tylermenezes> gparted always crashes when partitioning
[06:19] <tylermenezes> :(
[06:19] <kidbuntu> !realplayer
[06:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:19] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: oh, i was making them all primary
[06:19] <Hornet> Anyone? :\
[06:19] <Hornet> It's an Atheros, I've installed madwifi, nothing's working though.
[06:19] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: ah but i remember, i couldn't figure out how to make the logical partitions under the primary root partition, or something like that.....
[06:20] <ezzieyguywuf> flannel: during the install that is
[06:21] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?
[06:21] <joshhunt> hey, can anyone access http://www.lighttpd.net fine?
[06:22] <chalcedony> does anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty
[06:22] <riotkittie> Hornet: is it showing under ifconfig?
[06:22] <Hornet> One sec.
[06:22] <usr13> Hornet, Does your interface detect an essid?
[06:23] <usr13> Hornet, iwconfig
[06:23] <chalcedony> joshhunt: it works fine for me
[06:23] <Hornet> Using iwconfig, yes.
[06:23] <joshhunt> well, for me it just sends me to google
[06:23] <usr13> What essid does it show?
[06:23] <Hornet> I've already tried using a wpa_supplicant thingy, which may be why.
[06:23] <Hornet> X, which should be accurate.
[06:23] <Viroo> hi
[06:24] <chalcedony> joshhunt: i have it .. dunno what did you need on it?
[06:24] <Viroo> I have a qs related to choosing a good hardware that fits well with ubuntu
[06:24] <t3318_> Amaranth: yep, .gconf work :)
[06:24] <joshhunt> nothing, its just odd thats all
[06:25] <Aishiko> Viroo what type of hardware?
[06:25] <chalcedony> does anyone have any ideas for why my msn isn't working now in gaim? we upgraded to feisty
[06:25] <Viroo> what is the best compitable motherboard, graphix card and stuff
[06:25] <Hornet> usr13: it's set to X, which is the network name.
[06:25] <ezzieyguywuf> if HOME is set in a separate logical partition, and a new version of linux is installed, what advantages does that have?
[06:26] <Viroo> I mean best with ubuntu that gets all parts recognized out of the box
[06:26] <usr13> Hornet Someone else will have to help you with wap
[06:26] <dcode> I want to build packages for amd64 from an unofficial repository that provide the original sources and patches, but only i386 binaries...when I do apt-get -b source foo, it downloads the version in the official repository...how do I fix this?  Do I need to pin the packages?
[06:26] <ezzieyguywuf> nvidia
[06:26] <ezzieyguywuf> *viroo
[06:26] <ezzieyguywuf> i know that much (for a laptop)
[06:26] <usr13> Hornet, I have yet to use wap
[06:26] <chalcedony> is anyone else using gaim ?
[06:26] <Hornet> usr13: Fair enough.
[06:26] <Viroo> so nvidia is better supported than radeon ?
[06:26] <t3318_> chalcedony: gaim is pidgin now
[06:27] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm using pidgin (new GAIM)
[06:27] <usr13> I would only suggest turning off wap   temporarily, see that you can get it to connect first, and go from there.
[06:27] <Hornet> jmorse30 - James or Jeremy? :)
[06:27] <chalcedony> t3318_: for ubuntu it's still gaim
[06:27] <dcode> chalcedony, in gutsy its pidgin
[06:28] <Hornet> usr13, I can't, sadly.  It's used by other computers.
[06:28] <Aishiko> Viroo: really any will  work, however like all Linux distros, you have to remember Nvidia video cards are better supported, Intel, VIA, and then ATI northbridges/southbridges/host-controllors are better supported, otherwise everything else is pretty much teh same
[06:28] <t3318_> chalcedony: ou should change to pidgin
[06:28] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?
[06:28] <nrdb> is it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?
[06:28] <ezzieyguywuf> aishiko: if i'm not mistaken, ATI support is not the best
[06:28] <Viroo> I see
[06:29] <Aishiko> Viroo: Nvidia actually makes Linux drivers for thier cards
[06:29] <Viroo> good, I asked because i've heard ati gave their drivers to open source
[06:29] <ezzieyguywuf> viroo: I wish!!!
[06:29] <Viroo> so i thought it might be better supported
[06:30] <Aishiko> ezzieyguywuf: it's better supported for motherboard hardware then nForce is and ATI just releaced all the specs on thier video cards so they'll get better supported in time
[06:30] <Viroo> they did few weeks ago
[06:30] <ezzieyguywuf> aishiko: that is fantastic news
[06:30] <Aishiko> Viroo: it will be a long time before they're up to the same level of support as Nvidia
[06:30] <Viroo> i see
[06:31] <Viroo> ok then nvidia will be my choice
[06:31] <Hornet> Anyone else had issues with an apparent lack of WPA support?
[06:31] <Viroo> how about the logical board, i prefere intel brand i feel it is always very compitable with linux due to cooperative intel
[06:31] <Jamesinator> Hornet: Do you have an RT / Ralink card?
[06:32] <Aishiko> Viroo: I tend to stick with Nvidia VIDEO Card, and then Via, Intel, nForce or SiS for the Motherboard's hardware if I can, and then an AMD CPU
[06:32] <Hornet> Jamesinator: Atheros
[06:32] <Viroo> ok got it Aishiko thanks
[06:33] <Jamesinator> Hornet: Ah. I don't know how well WPA is supported on anything else, but on cards with Ralink chipsets it's a pain in the neck
[06:33] <Aishiko> Viroo: Intel is a big supporter, but having said that They've fallen behind AMD for pushing the boundries of CPU tech, right now they are using AMD's 64 bit extenstion code to make their 64bit CPUs work as an example
[06:33] <Viroo> who asked about ralkink chips? I have a dlink usb wireless, it needed some work to work on edgy eft, but it was working out of the box with gusty, and it is based on ralink chip
[06:33] <dotjay> when is the release date for 7.10
[06:34] <usr13> Hornet,  See: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[06:34] <Aishiko> dotjay sometime this month
[06:34] <nrdb> with vmware and 7.04 the message "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" means ?
[06:34] <Hornet> Bleh.  *WHY* do all network help articles use apt-bloody-get?
[06:34] <Jamesinator> Viroo: Gutsy seems to support Ralink chipsets with nm-manager **better** out of the box, but it's still a risky business. On feisty however, it was practically impossible without some major hacks to get Ralink+WPA working.
[06:35] <Hornet> Thanks, though.
[06:35] <usr13> Hornet,  See:  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA
[06:35] <ezzieyguywuf> where can i see updates present in gutsy?
[06:35] <Aishiko> Viroo: your welcome, Odds are good that on the Motherboard front that any motherboard you get will work :)
[06:35] <nrdb> Hornet: because everyone has it I suppose.
[06:35] <novato_br> Amaranth, plz, explain me, why desktop CD doesnt update the feisty fawn ubuntu instalation ?
[06:35] <patbam> i am getting " Illegal instruction"  when i try to run python, it has been running fine for a long time. could something have updated automaticallly?
[06:35] <Jamesinator> Is there any way to encrypt a directory tree without having to go through the hassle of setting up encfs / cryptfs / devices, et cetera?
[06:36] <Hornet> nrdb: it's completely useless though if you don't have internet access. :P
[06:36] <ezzieyguywuf> novato:it reinstalls linux i believe
[06:36] <Hornet> nrdb: Which is why you'd be reading the thing in the first place, surely.
[06:36] <Viroo> Aishiko: thats good news.. I wonder if ubuntu prepared a list with hardware with priority.. this would help alot
[06:36] <tarelerulz> I installed  Adobe Flash Player version 9 for my amd 64  ubuntu and It works ,but I can hear it . I think it is not use my USB sound card and I am wondernig  if anyone know to make it do such
[06:36] <novato_br> all versions should update the feisty fawn.
[06:36] <Jamesinator> Hornet: Not necessarily. If you have a repository entry for a live cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get will just install off of that
[06:36] <nrdb> Hornet: you have a point.
[06:37] <Jamesinator> Hornet: So there is some point to it, at least
[06:37] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get upgrade      updates feisty fawn
[06:37] <ezzieyguywuf> *novato
[06:37] <LoneShado1> I forgot to  burn the .iso as image into the cd, any simple way to install from feisty from .iso, I currently have a working debian 3.0 system
[06:37] <ezzieyguywuf> maybe i don't understand what your asking
[06:37] <novato_br> i cant download from net, ezzieyguywuf
[06:38] <novato_br> i took the cd
[06:38] <ezzieyguywuf> novato: but your on gaim aren't you?
[06:38] <patbam> i am getting " Illegal instruction"  when i try to run python, it has been running fine for a long time. could something have updated automaticallly?
[06:38] <patbam> ack sorry accidental paste
[06:40] <Aishiko> Viroo: no they havn't however they have a list of hardware that the users (you and me) have compiled that list known good (and the version it was tested under) and known bad/unworking/limited (and the version it was tested under) for anything that might fail.  Mobo/sound/video/ethernet/etc.  However I forget the link it is on the ubuntu website with the documentation though.
[06:40] <LoneShado1> !debootstrap
[06:40] <ubotu> debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into.
[06:40] <LoneShado1> can I debootstrap install from a iso ?
[06:41] <skinnypuppy1334> Anyone successfully porting gnome-session through ssh -X ? I've got one gutsy one fiesty and one dapper on my lan , open ssh on each and it works great one program at a time but I want to have one machine with a gnome session of the remote machines in another f2 or f12 terminal like mentioned in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544567&highlight=ssh+gnome-session
[06:42] <Curs0r> gnome takes a long time to load and shows this error http://rafb.net/p/1aX1fI84.html
[06:42] <Marfi> on the menu bar, all of the objects under "applications" have disapeared, but i can see the things that are under places and system. anyone know how to fix it?
[06:43] <skinnypuppy1334> right click on menus and choose edit
[06:43] <t3318_> Amaranth: Do you know how to change the default ubuntu gconf schema?
[06:44] <skinnypuppy1334> right click on the applications menu that is
[06:44] <Amaranth> t3318_: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/gconf-7.html
[06:45] <skinnypuppy1334> Anyone here doing remote gnome session with ssh?
[06:45] <skinnypuppy1334> Like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544567&highlight=ssh+gnome-session
[06:45] <ezzieyguywuf> so i'm trying to run KDE as a test run with the option to run GDE on login, but its askin me which one i want to use as default
[06:45] <ezzieyguywuf> is this easily changeable in the future if i want to?
[06:45] <t3318_> Amaranth: I try it now
[06:45] <skinnypuppy1334> you can choose each time you login
[06:46] <skinnypuppy1334> default is the one it launches if you don't choose
[06:46] <jrattner1> Question: How can I find all the subdomains of a domain name?
[06:46] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: accept gdm as the default login manager
[06:46] <nrdb> jrattner1: without access to the server i don't think you can.
[06:47] <jrattner1> nrdb, ...
[06:47] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: you can choose kde or gnome under sessions when you log in
[06:47] <Suicide_Guy2go> ok so grub updated itself and cleared my windows information from menu.lst and im not sure how to get it back
[06:47] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_GDM_Sessions
[06:47] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: thanks
[06:47] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: the Exec line would be ssh -X user@host gnome-session
[06:47] <skinnypuppy1334> Amaranth thank you again !!!
[06:48] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: make sure you can login to those machines without a password
[06:48] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: otherwise it will mess up
[06:48] <skinnypuppy1334> I belive I tried it with  ssh -X user@host gnome-session
[06:48] <skinnypuppy1334> OK I haven't tried nopass in the config
[06:48] <nickrud> Suicide_Guy2go: what is your windows partition?
[06:48] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: yes but you had a gnome-session already running locally, no?
[06:48] <skinnypuppy1334> yes
[06:48] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone here have any experience with linux mint, i've been thinkin bout tryin it
[06:48] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: this is making a separate thing you choose when you login
[06:49] <skinnypuppy1334> I wanted to have one machine at f2 another at f12 and local at f7 is what I am trying to accomplish
[06:49] <Suicide_Guy2go> its /dev/sda1
[06:49] <arrrghhh> hi all, i need some help with dhcp
[06:49] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: you could just use vnc
[06:50] <arrrghhh> and setting up a dhcp server so my 2nd nic card can serve internet to another device
[06:50] <skinnypuppy1334> Going to try with ssh first. I'll read that link you sent me . Thanks
[06:51] <ezzieyguywuf> how do you check which version of ubuntu your running (in the command prompt)
[06:51] <arrrghhh> uname -r is the kernel
[06:51] <nickrud> Suicide_Guy2go: http://pastebin.ca/722623 , put that at the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, after the line with AUTOMAGIC in it, so it's not touched by update-grub
[06:51] <tronus> hey all... is there a way to reset gnome back to default... i saved my session and logged out... not i can log back in
[06:51] <tronus> now i cant i mean
[06:51] <lumpycam> exec debian_version
[06:52] <skinnypuppy1334> Amaranth: when you refer to without password do you mean the ssh_config setting ?
[06:52] <lumpycam> oops, sorry
[06:52] <nrdb> is it posible to control what option the 'disk mounter' applet uses to mount drives ?
[06:52] <arrrghhh> nrdb: editing fstab
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but when i lsb_release -a it still says feisty
[06:52] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: I mean using public/private keys to do a secure passwordless login
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> is restart recquired?
[06:52] <ezzieyguywuf> (also said 0 packages updated)
[06:52] <berent> how do i enable mysql on xampp
[06:52] <arrrghhh> ezzieyguywuf: gusty isn't *official* yet
[06:53] <nrdb> arrrghhh: if I put anthing in fstab it gets auto mounted.
[06:53] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, did you modify the sources.list?
[06:53] <navets_> I need some help at the command line, how do I use an else statement in cshell
[06:53] <arrrghhh> nrdb: i thought that's what you were asking about...
[06:53] <navets_> it wont work for me, I dont know why
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: no how do i do that?
[06:53] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication
[06:54] <Amaranth> skinnypuppy1334: in this case you can be fine creating a key with no password since it's all on the LAN
[06:54] <skinnypuppy1334> I'll check that link thank you
[06:54] <Curs0r> apparently l0 isn't listening at 127.0,0.1
[06:55] <nrdb> arrrghhh: I don't want it auto mounted, so I am using the 'disk mounter' applet, it is mounting the drive 'noexec' I want to change this.
[06:55] <Suicide_Guy2go> nickrud, thank you very much! it worked!
[06:55] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: how do i modify the sources list?
[06:55] <arrrghhh> ah... ok
[06:55] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: i'm sorry i don't know what that means (still a noob. just intalled feisty on sat)
[06:56] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, click on it
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: not clickable
[06:56] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, hold shift down and then click on it
[06:56] <Iceshadow> cypher1: i talked to you earlier about that libstdc++, remember that?
[06:57] <ezzieyguywuf> bruenig: that just kind of hightlights everything int he window after then then unhighlights it cascade-like (kind nifty)
[06:57] <HealthyElijah> Aishiko: where is that list?
[06:57] <bruenig> ezzieyguywuf, use a real irc client
[06:57] <bruenig> !info xchat
[06:57] <Auckla> Alot of you guys are connecting from edu's. :)
[06:57] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[06:57] <Aishiko> HealthyElijah: what list?
[06:57] <ezzieyguywuf> such as?
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> hardware report on thebackscroll
[06:58] <nickrud> virtual internships
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> compatibility
[06:58] <bruenig> well ubotu has a good idea
[06:58] <KalEl> !gusty
[06:58] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[06:58] <HealthyElijah> this channel is huge btw
[06:59] <Aishiko> HealthyElijah: I gave the only directions to the list that I remember I don't have it bookmarked or memorized the address, just go to teh Ubuntu doc umentation and look around
[06:59] <HealthyElijah> k
[06:59] <KalEl> sorry... but in which channel can i get help regarding gusty installation, please?
[06:59] <nickrud> KalEl: #ubuntu+1
[06:59] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: this is it
[06:59] <Aishiko> KalEl: this channel if some one can
[06:59] <KalEl> ok thanks
[07:00] <KalEl> while installation, the process freezes for me, when it is at the second stage "Modifying the software channels"
[07:00] <KalEl> any tip on what i can do to go past that will be very helpful
[07:00] <HealthyElijah> u upgrading or clean install
[07:01] <KalEl> upgrading
[07:01] <KalEl> from 7.04
[07:01] <HealthyElijah> using iso?
[07:01] <merc> gutsy, i thought wasnt out yet?
[07:01] <KalEl> not using iso, using update-manager -d
[07:01] <KalEl> merc: beta
[07:01] <merc> ah
[07:01] <Aishiko> merc beta I'vbe been using ofr over a month now
[07:02] <merc> how's the compiz fusion effects?
[07:02] <merc> i heard there was like, low medium and high settings
[07:02] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: I think you should download the ISO, one of the Ubuntu team members was saying that before
[07:02] <Aishiko> merc it's preinstalled with no way to modify the settings you have to add that package, but I removed it
[07:02] <merc> yikes :\
[07:03] <HealthyElijah> CF ROCKS
[07:03] <vmlinuz`> whats the command to check if that specific package is really installed in my pc from apt-get?
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> any one upgraded to gutsy with thi? sudo sed -e 's/\sfeisty/ gutsy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get update
[07:03] <ezzieyguywuf> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:03] <HealthyElijah> U shouldnt upgrade that wayt
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: why not?
[07:04] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: i dont think that's 'recommended'
[07:04] <HealthyElijah> a developer was in here earlier and said not to,
[07:04] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: apt-cache policy <package>
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> so what should i do?
[07:04] <HealthyElijah> you should upgrade with an iso burned to cd
[07:04] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: thank you
[07:04] <Jamesinator> When I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?
[07:04] <Aishiko> merc: CF is just to make things "pretty" and to eat CPU cycles and degrtade performance
[07:04] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: that won't just reinstall? that will actually upgrade?
[07:05] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: ok i have ssh installed but checking that like this "apt-cache policy ssh" didnt give me any result, it gave me like error i think
[07:05] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I did, except the last command was apt-get dist-upgrade, repeated a couple of times
[07:05] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: I have no clue but I read a blog a few weeks ago that said he ended up having to do a clean install because things went awry
[07:05] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: that would be ssh-server , the package name
[07:05] <NotFBI> hey guys
[07:05] <ezzieyguywuf> when gutsy releases officially, will just a plain ole upgrade and dist-upgrade do the trick or will the .iso method still be necessary?
[07:05] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: hm, thanks. how did you know.. actually i was trying to figure out how to know my package currect name  too haha
[07:05] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: dunno <-- noob here
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> noob here too lol
[07:06] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: iso is NOT needed, you can use upgrade-manager -d
[07:06] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: i doubt you will need the iso.
[07:06] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: it gave me this
[07:06] <HealthyElijah> how do you do the actions in IRC?
[07:06] <vmlinuz`>   Installed: (none)
[07:06] <vmlinuz`>   Candidate: (none)
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: that is after the official release correct?
[07:06] <merc> HealthyElijah: /me does things
[07:06] <Jamesinator> When I try to log in to a user with a blanked password through GDM, the "Ok" button is disabled and I'm unable to login. What should I do?
[07:06] <ezzieyguywuf> since the beta is recquiring some messin with the source list
[07:06] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: then you have issues with your sources; do apt-get update and check again.
[07:06] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: yes
[07:06] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, some people have nightmare problems when upgrading. It's just easier to backup ~/user  and fresh install
[07:06] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: well yea but i have ssh installed, im pretty sure.
[07:07] <merc> Jamesinator: how'd you get a blank password? (it might be set to not allow blank passwords.)
[07:07] <Qanadin> Where do I find Quicktime for Ubuntu?
[07:07] <Qanadin> anybody know?
[07:07] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, and upgraders slow down repos anyways. causing more headaches for people trying to get updates
[07:07] <Auckla> Ffmpeg thing.
[07:07] <Jamesinator> merc: I passwd -d the account that I wanted to have its password blanked
[07:07] <vmlinuz`> how do i add my username to the sudoer so it doesn't ask me for my passwd everytime i do "sudo"
[07:07] <merc> Qanadin: check out the forums, there's a way to get all those kinds of playback abilities(mp3,wmv, all that)
[07:07] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: what is tha advantage of saving ~/home
[07:07] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: try dpkg -l ssh-server
[07:07] <Auckla> vmlinuz`, Add yourself to wheel?
[07:08] <bullgard4> What programs will use an entry  "mode 0666" such as an entry 'Section "DRI" Mode0666'  in xorg.conf?
[07:08] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, ummm... a backup and you can save it to new install.
[07:08] <merc> Jamesinator: i'd imagine its a gdm thing..i guess(just speculating)
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: un  ssh-server                    <none>                        (no description available)
[07:08] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: sorry, it's openssh-server
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: um, thanks.
[07:08] <Jamesinator> merc: I figured, but I guess I can try and find the gdm conf and see if there's a directive there I can change
[07:08] <riotkittie> oh yea i need to set up ssh.
[07:08] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: how to do that tho :p im new to ubuntu
[07:08] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, ~/user has all your prefs and files. .
[07:08] <KalEl> HealthyElijah: thanks, i suppose then i will wait till the final release comes out
[07:08] <mcquaid> hello, my brother is building a new puter, and he's concerned about getting 4gigs.  He said both linux and xp (non 64 bit versions) do not support 4 gigs
[07:08] <merc> Jamesinator: it might even be in the init script for it.
[07:08] <ezzieyguywuf> kahyrtan: yea but its pretty much empty except for some pictures i got in there. what prefs?
[07:08] <mcquaid> I said 4 gigs is the limit for 32 bit operating systems
[07:09] <nickrud> mcquaid: yes, actual useage is about 3.2gb I hear
[07:09] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, press ctrl-h in home folder
[07:09] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: yea that one is installed for me, but I can't remember that I did "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" hmm weird. did synaptic did it for me automatically you think?
[07:09] <HealthyElijah> KalEl: I will to but I am still going to do a fresh install since I installed Compiz Fusion over Fiesty
[07:09] <Qanadin> thanks merc!!
[07:09] <merc> Jamesinator: http://www.nabble.com/login-without-password-t3888878.html might be of interest
[07:09] <mcquaid> hmmm
[07:09] <merc> Qanadin: no prob, i take it you found it :)
[07:09] <Qanadin> yeah
[07:09] <merc> cool
[07:09] <Jamesinator> merc: Thanks, I'll try and read it (rather difficult using lynx and irssi in recovery console. :P)
[07:09] <ezzieyguywuf> i see
[07:09] <Auckla> vmlinuz`, That is a good question, I don't know how to do that in Linux I guess. :P
[07:10] <kahrytan> !clone | ezzieyguywuf
[07:10] <ubotu> ezzieyguywuf: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:10] <vmlinuz`> Auckla: hehe
[07:10] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  !clone and ~/user backup. and Reinstall is painless.
[07:10] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: whats the usage to netstat all the listetning ports?
[07:10] <KalEl> HealthyElijah: ok... i don't have compiz installed, but i suppose if i am to download the iso, it better be the final version - that way i save a CD :)
[07:10] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: there's a metapackage called ssh ; it installs the client and server ( apt-cache depends ssh)
[07:10] <ezzieyguywuf> what is !clone
[07:10] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: sudo netstat -tlp
[07:11] <KalEl> i see the problem
[07:11] <KalEl> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_IN.bz2
[07:11] <darkchr0n0s> what does this mean n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee
[07:11] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, makes a list of installed package in event you have to reinstall ubuntu.
[07:11] <KalEl> this file does not exist in the server
[07:11] <KalEl> !!!
[07:11] <ezzieyguywuf> just run that in terminal?
[07:11] <Jamesinator> merc: Thanks for that link, I'm going to try the fix he supplied
[07:11] <vmlinuz`> wow nice :) I have ssh there.
[07:11] <jack|ass> Anyone seeing problems with Firefox in Gutsy?  Random crashing.
[07:11] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: you can prep for an upgrade by commenting out all third party repos, checking for obsolete packages in synaptic, and removing them
[07:11] <merc> Jamesinator: no problem, dont blame me when your keyboard explodes!
[07:11] <Hobbsee> darkchr0n0s: it's a cloak
[07:11] <jack|ass> General making baby jesus cry behavior?
[07:12] <kahrytan> !automate
[07:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[07:12] <nickrud> HealthyElijah: after updating sources after removing third party, that is.
[07:12] <darkchr0n0s> Hobbsee , how can i get one ?
[07:12] <ezzieyguywuf> i think i'm gonna hold of on upgrading for a while, till i can assure i can do it with no screups
[07:12] <Jamesinator> merc: Aaaaauuugh! My eyes! Plastic fragments! *whimpers*
[07:12] <Hobbsee> !participate | darkchr0n0s
[07:12] <ubotu> darkchr0n0s: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[07:12] <HealthyElijah> nickrud: over my head right now
[07:12] <Hobbsee> darkchr0n0s: by becomming a ubuntu member.
[07:12] <Aishiko> jack|ass: yes it crashes on downloads if you are not in the default theme
[07:12] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: When I don't use sudo for a few mins then i use it, it keep asking me for my root password again. How to stop that. add myself to sudoer right?
[07:12] <unjustice> anyone know how to fix I/O problems with Xsane scanner for Unbutu Feisty Fawn
[07:12] <unjustice> ?
[07:12] <ezzieyguywuf> healthy: are you going to upgrade to gutsy?
[07:12] <merc> Jamesinator: hehe.. :)
[07:13] <darkchr0n0s> Hobbsee , hmmm... lets see
[07:13] <astro76> vmlinuz`, in Ubuntu you use the admin group to get sudo access, but that doesn't remove the need for your password. Also sudo uses your user not root password
[07:13] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, I will.  its more usef friendly
[07:13] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: no, it times out in case you walk away from the keyboard. You can change the timeout time, but I don't remember offhand where
[07:13] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, and ill upgrade to Hard y Heron too
[07:14] <vmlinuz`> okay, well I remember something mention to me "Sudoers"
[07:14] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  though, anyone who uses ubuntu for home or server will upgrade to hardy
[07:14] <ezzieyguywuf> kayhtytan: i want to, but like healthy i'm still real new to linux (i think this is my 6 day) and i don't want to have to fresh install and i don't want to mess up my fglrx which took so long to set up
[07:14] <ezzieyguywuf> when is hardy do, six months from now?
[07:14] <jack|ass> Aishiko: this is just opening it and going to a webpage.
[07:14] <nickrud> vmlinuz`: you can use that to remove the need to enter the password. I'll never do that, personally
[07:14] <jack|ass> Aishiko: is there a way to fix this?  I am in the default theme I think
[07:14] <vmlinuz`> nickrud: okay
[07:14] <Aishiko> jack|ass: then no I don't have the problem
[07:14] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  If all goes as planned, April
[07:14] <kahrytan> !hardy
[07:14] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[07:15] <ezzieyguywuf> is ubotu a bot?
[07:15] <merc> ezzieyguywuf: yes. uBOTu
[07:15] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  What gave you that idea :-P
[07:15] <astro76> vmlinuz`, yeah it would be in sudoers, I also wouldn't recommend it :p
[07:15] <nickrud> !ubotu
[07:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:15] <ezzieyguywuf> oh hahahaha
[07:15] <jack|ass> Aishiko: default theme in firefox?  Or the Human theme for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <kahrytan> !botsnack
[07:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:15] <Aishiko> jack|ass: the theme for Ubuntu,
[07:15] <josiah> I have a Palm Treo 700wx. I want to either find software for syncing or a howto for Ubuntu or I would like to load linux onto it. Any Ideas, links?
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> !ubotu
[07:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> woah!
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> what does the exclamation do there?
[07:16] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, responds to !info packagename
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> oh
[07:16] <jack|ass> Aishiko: that seems weird that that would matter.
[07:16] <merc> the ! is so ubotu knows its a command.
[07:16] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  and look. bug #1
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> so when you did
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> !clone
[07:16] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> i was supposed to read that
[07:16] <ezzieyguywuf> i see
[07:16] <kahrytan> bug #1
[07:16] <kahrytan> guess it doesnt respond to that here
[07:16] <nickrud> !bug #1
[07:17] <Aishiko> jack|ass: I thought so too so I thought it was a FF bug but it works fine in the deflaut theme
[07:17] <nickrud> hm, it has
[07:17] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan:? bug #1?
[07:17] <jack|ass> Aishiko: either way, that's showstoppingly bad.
[07:17] <kahrytan> In -offtopic, it will respond to bug #1
[07:17] <ezzieyguywuf> oh
[07:17] <kahrytan> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[07:17] <Sianis_> hi all
[07:17] <Aishiko> jack|ass: they might have fixed it by now but I've not checked in the last week or 2
[07:18] <Sianis_> i have adresses in a text file
[07:18] <Sianis_> how can I send them email in easy way?
[07:18] <jack|ass> Aishiko: I updated yesterday. :-/
[07:19] <blueflower> haii
[07:19] <dfwgsgds> hi
[07:19] <Aishiko> jack|ass: I'm going to try it again after the release is official at that point there is no excuse for it to not work under any theme
[07:19] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png&imgrefurl=http://www.formatds.org/index.php%3Fs%3Dgnome&h=530&w=700&sz=102&hl=en&start=3&sig2=hM5l_bKiWEZ91znWx-IVvA&um=1&tbnid=OnNXt08vqQ6I5M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=140&ei=tNQBR_zGBZSIeObv8bYC&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgutsy%2Bgibbon%2Bcontrol%2Bcenter%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3
[07:19] <kahrytan> Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
[07:19] <blueflower> haii
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> oh when that guy typed #ubuntu+1 he wanted me to go to the other room
[07:19] <ezzieyguywuf> you shoulda said that bro!
[07:19] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  my bad. http://www.formatds.org/index.php?s=gnome
[07:20] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png thats what i like
[07:20] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, Ubuntu control center.
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> ezzieyguywuf: You wont get much help there anyways
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> You were not offtopic here
[07:20] <scatyb> grub
[07:20] <ezzieyguywuf> thanks healthy
[07:20] <scatyb> !grub
[07:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> I mean u might get help there but there was not many active users, i checked
[07:20] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: what about the control center?
[07:20] <blueflower> haii
[07:20] <HealthyElijah> either way is fine
[07:20] <blueflower> haii
[07:21] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, http://www.formatds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/screenshot-control-center.png
[07:21] <jack|ass> Aishiko: hmm, looks like it might be related to color depth... I'm upping mine to 24 (dunno why it's 16) and trying again
[07:21] <nickrud> !hi | blueflower
[07:21] <Aishiko> kahrytan: that's just the compiz fusion control panel not the ubuntu one
[07:21] <ubotu> blueflower: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:21] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: thats compiz right?
[07:22] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's ubuntu one
[07:22] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's in Feisty just hidden
[07:22] <ezzieyguywuf> kayrytan: when i installed compiz thats what i got
[07:22] <Aishiko> kahrytan: for me to get that menu I had to instal compiz
[07:22] <indraveni> Hi,
[07:22] <scatyb> !windows
[07:22] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:22] <Aishiko> 's manager
[07:23] <rubyphyte> has anyone used pendrive linux under windows?
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko,  no you dont
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko, compiz has it's own control center though
[07:23] <indraveni> I have sony laptop and i want my function keys, and all other features like motioneye etc to work
[07:23] <ezzieyguywuf> haha
[07:23] <indraveni> how can i do that
[07:23] <jack|ass> Aishiko: that got it... 24-bit color.
[07:23] <kahrytan> Aishiko, just install gnome-control-center
[07:24] <ezzieyguywuf> indraveni: system>>preferences>>keyboard shortcuts
[07:24] <indraveni> i heard something about sonypi
[07:24] <indraveni> but i am not getting where to download it
[07:24] <Aishiko> kahrytan: either way I've removed compiz, why they would install it automatically and not give the settings manager
[07:24] <gotama> Hi. I have installed edubuntu with ltsp support. When I try to play a sound in the thin client it uses the speaker of the server. (wavesurfer, kedit, audacity, gnoise-gnome) Is there any solution. xmms works fine but its response is to slow. Help please.
[07:24] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  gnome-control-center is in feisty repo.  it's same one in gutsy
[07:24] <kahrytan> Aishiko, jsut install  gnome-control-center for the control center for gnome
[07:24] <Aishiko> jack|ass: great glad to hear that
[07:24] <kahrytan> Aishiko, it's not part of compiz
[07:25] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: i dunno what it is, i just know i got it and compiz :-D
[07:25] <jack|ass> should get fixed though. :)
[07:25] <Aishiko> kahrytan:  the menu you showed is the smae one I saw when I got the compiz settings manager before I removed compiz
[07:26] <indraveni> ezzieyguywuf, thats manually setting,
[07:26] <indraveni> ezzieyguywuf, there are smoemore procedures for this
[07:26] <ezzieyguywuf> indraveni: sorry thats all the help i can give
[07:26] <nickrud> the printing configuration is one of the better changes in gutsy
[07:26] <kahrytan> Aishiko, The is one for compiz and seperate one for Preferences. THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
[07:27] <nickrud> lol, shouting! (me votes with kahrytan)
[07:27] <kahrytan> Aishiko, They do look alike but they are separate
[07:27] <therealnanotube> nickrud: out of curiosity - what are some of the worse changes in gutsy?
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> i'd like to know too
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> is it really worth backing up home and doing a fresh install
[07:28] <nickrud> therealnanotube: for me, my suspend & hibernate went way.
[07:28] <kahrytan> nickrud, wasnt shouting. out of context. thats sternly saying something
[07:28] <dxdt> nickrud: OUCH
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: are you on a laptop?
[07:28] <ezzieyguywuf> mine hardly work as is so thats not too bad for me
[07:29] <therealnanotube> nickrud: ah, hehe i see. my suspend key stopped working after breezy->dapper upgrade (though suspend itself works, just not the keyboard key on the laptop)...
[07:29] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: yes
[07:29] <riotkittie> now now.
[07:29] <Aishiko> ezzieyguywuf: why back it up? or did you not make it a seperate partation for it?
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> also, dumb question (why would  suspend and hibernate be on desktop!!!! haha)
[07:29] <nickrud> kahrytan: I know, only teasing ;)
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> aishiko: had a hard time making logical partitions during install
[07:29] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm not sure if you make a logical install under a primary one or not
[07:30] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I set sleep up for my boss, he's a man of little patience
[07:30] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, if you already got the partitions setup. don't have to make new ones for new install. just format them
[07:30] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: i see. so you got sleep working fine in feisty? (not on a t60p running fglrx by chance? :-D)
[07:30] <nickrud> feisty was amazing for me, I missed edgy and dapper & breezy were nice
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: i only have one primary partition for root and one for swap, other two are windows
[07:31] <tsukasa> what does everyone use for an audio player?
[07:31] <tsukasa> just wondering
[07:31] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: It worked fine (gateway pos, but feisty supported it beautifully)
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> amarok for now....
[07:31] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: lucky
[07:31] <therealnanotube> nickrud: exactly the same for me - missed edgy, went directly from dapper to a fresh feisty install. ;) all of them have worked well
[07:32] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, that's fine
[07:32] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, 2gb swap i assume?
[07:32] <Aishiko> tsukasa: I use Kaffeine because it's the only thing I've found so far that doesn't try to make a listing of my files
[07:32] <nickrud> therealnanotube: yeah, after years of finagling debian (which I thoroughly enjoyed, by the way) it was nice to use one that just worked
[07:33] <Aishiko> tsukasa: I distan that sort of software behavior
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: yes
[07:33] <riotkittie> oh wow. this is amazing.  stability. woo. woo.
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> but i have 2 gig of mem so i feel its overkill
[07:33] <therealnanotube> nickrud: for me, s/debian/freebsd/ :)
[07:33] <nickrud> therealnanotube: ah, a masochist ;)
[07:33] <paoniaIS> Is there any way to bring a "bricked" CF Disk back to life?
[07:33] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: so i don't need to back up home? but when i format that partition won't i lose all my data?
[07:34] <salamkenal> hello how to install the Xlib
[07:34] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: manufacturers' websites usually have tools for this, which only run under doze
[07:34] <salamkenal> in ubuntu
[07:34] <salamkenal> 7.04
[07:34] <bullgard4> man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to mode, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number  representing the bit pattern for the new permissions.
[07:34] <nickrud> therealnanotube: ah, shouldn't have said that, I tried freebsd before I knew enough to use it properly. For me, it would have been masochism
[07:34] <josiah> well there are some things I just cant do on Linux. I have a windows xp and windows vista full version disk. How do I make it so that I can load windows from within Linux. (I dont want to dual boot I just want to do some random things like update my palm treo)
[07:35] <Aishiko> riotkittie: I agree I have gusty running and it's been more stable then widoze but then the .12 kernel is not stable
[07:35] <paoniaIS> bummer, I don't have a windumb isntall on a machine that has a CF drive
[07:35] <nickrud> josiah: install vmware-server, and install the windows os of your choice in it.
[07:35] <therealnanotube> nickrud: heh well, back in the day i used to run some servers - it was a rock solid os for a server. but when i tried using it for a desktop, it was just missing too much stuff (mind you, this was at least 5 years ago, i bet it's much better now...)
[07:35] <josiah> nickrud: thank you
[07:36] <nickrud> therealnanotube: that's about the time I tried it as well.
[07:36] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: have you tried partitioning with fdisk, & mkfs.ext3 ?
[07:36] <riotkittie> Aishiko:  i'm not talking about gutsy. i'm talking about my wireless :P       but gutsy gets a stamp of approval as well
[07:36] <Frogzoo> paoniaIS: actually CF should be ext2 probly
[07:36] <Aishiko> riotkittie: ohh OK :P
[07:36] <salamkenal> how to install Xlib/Xfreeb6 in ubuntu 7.04 please help
[07:36] <nickrud> riotkittie: you have wireless??!! Finally?
[07:36] <bullgard4> man chmod writes: "chmod changes the permissions of each given file according to _mode_, which can be either a symbolic representation of changes to make, or an octal number representing the bit pattern for the new permissions." Where is this 'symbolic representation of changes to make' defined more precisely?
[07:37] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf, did you change your theme yet?
[07:37] <nickrud> bullgard4: like chmod u+x file (add execute perms to the owner of the file)
[07:38] <therealnanotube> nickrud: cool. i remember my first freebsd version was 2.2.8 - i still have those cds somewhere. heh.
[07:38] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I don't remember the version, what I remember was installing and sitting dumbly at the terminal
[07:39] <riotkittie> nickrud: i've always had wireless :P its still awful under,  but  under :cough:gutsy:cough: it is finally behaving.  i think. i used to lose connections like crazy, and have to reboot :\
[07:39] <ezzieyguywuf> kahrytan: what theme?
[07:39] <bullgard4> nickrud: You have given to me an example. Thank you. Can you also tell me where I can find a full definition of that 'symbolic representation'?
[07:39] <therealnanotube> nickrud: haha, i guess at least ubuntu has minimized the sitting dumbly at terminal during install time - doesn't take that long. ;)
[07:39] <riotkittie> and i still cant get rt2x00 to work for me :|
[07:39] <riotkittie> but whatever. :D
[07:39] <nickrud> bullgard4: man chmod, just above the AUTHOR section
[07:40] <kahrytan> ezzieyguywuf,  you still got the dull boring orange theme?
[07:40] <nickrud> therealnanotube: no, I meant after the install. Didn't have a clue :)
[07:40] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: i still have the default feisty brown/orange theme. i like it! :)
[07:40] <ezzieyguywuf> oh, well i installed compiz and emerald, and had a cool theme, but couldn't figure out why my text wasn't showing in my titlebar, so i reverted to the clone of the orange theme with compiz effects. i do have a custom collage desktop thats off the heezy though (jpg)
[07:40] <ezzieyguywuf> :-d
[07:41] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/kahrytan/screenshots/Screen_10-01-07.png
[07:41] <kahrytan> thereal I don't
[07:41] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me how to restart my gui so i can use a updated resolution in the xorg file
[07:41] <bullgard4> nickrud: I will read that carefully.
[07:41] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: ALT CTRL BKSPCE
[07:41] <therealnanotube> nickrud: a-ha, i see. hehe. well, i was a pretty decent at the console, so didn't have that problem. :) but compiling kde was sure a "sitting dumbly at the terminal" time...
[07:41] <ezzieyguywuf> so i installed KDE, but i'm still in my GNOME session but a bunch od Kapps are showwing up in my applications list
[07:41] <riotkittie> or you can sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:41] <ezzieyguywuf> is this normal?
[07:41] <riotkittie> or sudo /ect/init.d/ gdm restart
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> kahyrtan: what theme do you use?
[07:42] <nickrud> therealnanotube: yeah, I put on a mandrake then spend about half a year with linux from scratch. Made myself eat my own dogfood
[07:42] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: meh, tastes differ. :) i am not a big fan of the "apple wannabe" themes, myself. ;)
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> oh, plus on top of what i said before (and i can't be sure) but i feel like these K-apps replaced all my gnome stuff too
[07:42] <ezzieyguywuf> i did not want this :-(
[07:43] <Hornet> !equivalents
[07:43] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[07:43] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...
[07:43] <riotkittie> i like nice, minimal, subdued themes. i wish i could find a decent dark one, tho.
[07:43] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/
[07:43] <riotkittie> ezzieyguywuf: no the gnome apps should be there. each DE's apps end up in the others' menus tho
[07:43] <nickrud> heh. wrong close button
[07:44] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, I miss my mac. Considering getting it replaced from ebay
[07:44] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe what we won't put up with during college, when we have time to waste, eh? :) (at least that's where i was). i don't have the time to mess around with the details nowadays...
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> riotkittie: thanks flannel: thanks
[07:44] <Flannel> ezzieyguywuf: that's a method/script to get rid of the apps from the other DE
[07:44] <riotkittie> it drives me Krazy. on the rare occasion i hate myself enough to install kde
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> hah krazzy
[07:44] <ezzieyguywuf> i might leave it but i will def bookmark the page flannel
[07:45] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I was working the night shift at a homeless shelter, lots of down time :)
[07:45] <ezzieyguywuf> brb i'm gonna login to KDE
[07:45] <nickrud> of course, if there'd been personal computers when I was in college, I'd have probably spend a lot of time with them
[07:46] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: ah heh i see. macs are pretty cool, from what i've seen, though i've never used one for a prolonged length of time since the os8/9 days...
[07:46] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe
[07:46] <riotkittie> if there'd been personal computers. aye.  <hides>
[07:46] <kahrytan> therealnanotube, my last mac was my 6400/200. ide cable busted it was my first  net pc.
[07:47] <nickrud> I wasn't into flicking switches to program devices
[07:47] <therealnanotube> kahrytan: heh ic.
[07:48] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe yea, and those punchcards weren't that much fun, either.
[07:48] <nickrud> therealnanotube: I hated the 1 week turnaround, yes :)
[07:48] <riotkittie> thank you for making me feel young. i needed that :P
[07:49] <ezzieyguywuf> back!
[07:49] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: hehe, sorry, if you need impetus to "feel young", you know you're gettin' old. :P
[07:49] <ezzieyguywuf> so who here uses KDE?
[07:49] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: i've got kde on my desktop that i don't really use much. :) i like kde in general, but gnome's panel i like so much better, that i just stick with gnome.
[07:50] <ezzieyguywuf> and where is compiz? does KDE need to be set up to run in xgl too or w/e
[07:50] <salamkenal> how install ntlm_auth for the new version???
[07:50] <nickrud> ah, a question! too bad I can't answer that one
[07:50] <Curs0r> you know, in the early days of man we all sat around saying things like "awk", "sed" and "grep" to each other
[07:50] <ezzieyguywuf> you know what, i just realized how much smoother my comp runs without compiz
[07:50] <therealnanotube> nickrud: hehe yea, a while since we saw one of these. :)
[07:51] <IRC_help> nqkoi znae li bulgarski ?
[07:51] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: yea, i have beryl on my comp, but it just kinda lags when there are more than a few windows open, so i just use metacity...
[07:51] <Usrl> Question: I'm using gtkpod to load a bunch of podcasts and songs to my nano. How the heck am I supposed to be able to tell how much space the files are going to take up once I save it to the iPod, though?
[07:51] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnanotube: yea i can see why you don't like kde panel. i don't really like the menu either (too windowish, i'm used to gnome menu now after only 6 days!)
[07:51] <therealnanotube> IRC_help: i can understand a tiny bit. :)
[07:51] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnanotuve: what is metacity?
[07:52] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: metacity is the default window manager - basically what you get when you don't have beryl or compiz :)
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> oh thanks
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i love the compiz effects though
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> main reason i wanted to switch to linux
[07:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm torn between using and not :-) haha
[07:52] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: its the manager that you used when you gave up on your missing title bars :)
[07:53] <ezzieyguywuf> actually, that was a gnome-human clone i found in emerald so it still has all compiz effects :-)
[07:53] <broken> I have an issue here, I am using ubuntu feisty on my laptop. I've configured the power options that when the lid is closed the laptop goes into sleep mode. Now when I open the lid the screen remains black and doesnt' react to input, like hitting a key or moving the mouse around. Any ideas why?
[07:53] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: when you do make the upgrade to gutsy, you'll find it much better. Even for fglrx
[07:53] <riotkittie> compiz runs very nice for me, and is actually somewhat useful. i  was shocked.
[07:53] <riotkittie> ubuntu's made me lazy <weeps>
[07:53] <therealnanotube> broken: maybe hit the power button?
[07:54] <therealnanotube> broken: that's how i bring my laptop out of suspend - hit the power btn
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: really? thats great news. gutsy is sounding like its worth even a clean install, but i dunno if i wanna do all that.....
[07:54] <broken> .. ok I guess I'll give that a try. Be back in a second.
[07:54] <nickrud> riotkittie: try debian, you've got the basics down, now build your own machine
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> broken: i think you have to map a key to come out of sleep mode. can anone verify that?
[07:54] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: well, you're gonna be changing your partitions eventually anyway
[07:54] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: if i can figure out how
[07:55] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: do i just make them all logical?
[07:55] <therealnanotube> ezzieyguywuf: well, you would'n want your partitions to be all illogical, would you? :)
[07:55] <ezzieyguywuf> therealnano:haha
[07:55] <IRC_help> therealnanotube, I don't understand very good english.
[07:55] <riotkittie> nickrud: debian schmebian :P i'm sure that it's lovely and everything, and i will get around to it at some point
[07:55] <riotkittie> but i was thinking of going back to slack
[07:55] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: when you decide to, boot the live cd, use cfdisk and delete the last partition, make it an extended partition, then add logical ones to the extended
[07:56] <nickrud> riotkittie: it's a good learning experience. But, ubuntu does a magnificent job of configuring it for me
[07:57] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: i tried that on my install of fiesty. i had two windows partitions, a swap partition, and an ext3 that i set to primary that i put at / for my root. then i wanted to use the leftover space for home and boot but it simply said unusable space
[07:57] <broken_> Yea I just had to reboot.
[07:57] <broken_> To get out of sleep mode.
[07:57] <ezzieyguywuf> so instead i went back and made root that whole last partition instead of wasting that space
[07:58] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme try a visual
[07:58] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: because you didn't make the 4th partition an extended one.
[07:58] <therealnanotube> IRC_help: kak po russki?
[07:58] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: so i guess i'm confused. its either primary or extended? for some reason i thought it was either primary or logical
[07:58] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: 4 primary partitions allowed, or three primary, one extended, and a bunch of logical
[07:59] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: ok i'm startin to get this
[07:59] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: the extended partition is what allows you to create logical ones
[07:59] <broken_> So I don't know why I can't get my laptop back from sleep mode. As soon as I close the lid I cannot use my laptop anymore unless I reboot.
[08:00] <riotkittie> learning experiences and i dont mesh well these days. i try to concentrate, and have a toddler cannonballing into my lap.
[08:00] <riotkittie> broken_: is that constant? my laptop will hang every now and then when i put it into sleep, albeit rarely. usually only when i absolutely need it not to, though
[08:00] <bcw> I'm writing an input system for tablet computers (for linux). I've done some experiments to verify I can basically do what I want, and now it's time to back up, and set up the proper infrastructure for developing software that can be installed, un-installed, not conflict, etc.
[08:00] <bcw> I'm not speaking of a .deb yet, but rather the make & folders & naming conventions to allow me to build this correctly in the first place, so that it can be a package later.
[08:00] <bcw> Is this the place to ask such questions?
[08:00] <broken_> riotkittie: all the time.
[08:01] <riotkittie> ugh. i was wrong about my wireless being stable. =|
[08:01] <nickrud> what's the bulgarian country code?
[08:01] <nickrud> bcw: ask on ubuntu-motu , they can help with both
[08:02] <ezzieyguywuf> woah didn't know ps3 could run ubuntu (knew it could run yellodog or w/e)
[08:02] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone done this?
[08:02] <bcw> thanks
[08:02] <nickrud> hah. toddlers and extended concentration do not mix
[08:02] <IRC_help> therealnanotube, I Can you tell me how to escape defult firewall from ubuntu
[08:03] <salamkenal> how i update the ntlm_auth package???
[08:05] <nickrud> salamkenal: winbind has the ntlm_auth command in it. its 3.0.24 in feisty
[08:06] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: (still on partitions) when i get to this screen http://customisinglife.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/resize-small.png does that ext3 make it an extended partition b/c thats what i used for /
[08:07] <salamkenal> if i install winbind, so i must install samba right?
[08:07] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: no, you would have defined the partitions earlier, that screen is about what kind of file system you're putting on the partition and how you're going to use it
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> i might be remembering something wrong, but after i checked manual and went to 'add partition' that was the only option i got
[08:08] <nickrud> salamkenal: no real clue here, I do so little with samba or windows
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> i NEVER got a screen that looked like this http://www.elart.it/kubuntu/GParted.png
[08:08] <ezzieyguywuf> and i installed 3 times
[08:08] <julz> newbie here... to install drivers im told i need to follow the build instructions. is this as simple as using the terminal and typing what it says?
[08:09] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: that's the one you want. I never use the live cd to install, so I can't tell you how to get there
[08:09] <ezzieyguywuf> julz:depends on if its as easy as using the terminal and typing what is say s:-) usually it does work if its a good guide
[08:09] <nickrud> julz: possibly even easier: what driver are you trying to install?
[08:09] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: so how do you install?
[08:10] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: I use the alternate cd
[08:10] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: it's a text based installer, no live cd on it
[08:10] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: brb
[08:10] <julz> umm, a ralink one for a usb wireless adaptor
[08:11] <the9a3eedi> Does ubuntu fit on a 2GB flash disk?
[08:11] <nickrud> julz: I do know one thing: I've watched someone struggle mightily with that ralink driver, trying to get wpa.
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> my first impressions of KDE are no bueno
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: what is an alternate CD? is it a lot harder to install this way?
[08:12] <julz> nickrud: as in encryption? i read that on the net, but my home wireless is unsecured.
[08:12] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: it's full of options, it has a learning curve all it's own.
[08:12] <ezzieyguywuf> nickrud: its downloadable as an .iso?
[08:13] <julz> i just installed ubuntu from live cd. kernel will be the latest? 2.6?
[08:13] <nickrud> julz: then you might have better luck. But 98% of the time, the 'cut & paste' into a terminal works.
[08:13] <nickrud> julz: that is, for the actual compiling & such.
[08:13] <ezzieyguywuf> julz: should tell you when you boot (for me i have to choose either kernel 2.16 or 15
[08:13] <ezzieyguywuf> or something like that
[08:14] <nickrud> ezzieyguywuf: releases.ubuntu.com/7.04 , look for alternate x86
[08:14] <julz> thanks a lot:)
[08:14] <nickrud> !wifi | julz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut
[08:14] <ubotu> julz take a look at these pages, it might give you a shortcut: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:15] <therealnanotube> julz: "uname -a" will give you info on kernel and stuff
[08:15] <the9a3eedi> Hi. Will ubuntu fit on a usb flash disk?
[08:15] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone! is there some way I can change the color of text in gonome panel, ie. the time and the taskbar, they're black n i want black wallpaper but it's too hard to read
[08:15] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[08:15] <julz> yeah i went through that site a min ago, ill give it a try. thanks all
[08:15] <perv> irc.qeasr.net
[08:15] <g0dd3ss> the9a3eedi, i guess taht depends on how big your flash disk is
[08:15] <g0dd3ss> 8-}
[08:16] <nickrud> g0dd3ss: not that I've ever found, except recompiling the panel code.
[08:16] <the9a3eedi> g0dd3ss: woops.. forgot to mention 2GB
[08:17] <g0dd3ss> ok that sucks but thanks nickrud
[08:18] <user_> VNC remote desktop question. I have 3 ubuntu machines on my lan, I want to be able to control the full desktop gui from one the other two on the lan. Without it messing with the other desktops mouse etc...
[08:19] <DraconPern> Is it possible to install and run ubuntu from an USB flash drive?
[08:19] <nickrud> the9a3eedi: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , 1gb is big enough
[08:19] <Woet> Whoo, my first message on IRC via ubuntu!
[08:19] <Guest10035> I installed VMware and dedicated 4 gig for an OS partition, which drive letter did WMware assign to it
[08:19] <user_> Is this possible with VNC? Or do I need to be using ssh to do this ?
[08:19] <ezzieyguywuf> yay woet
[08:19] <Woet> When wine installed an application for me, how do i start it?
[08:20] <nickrud> Woet: wine /path/to/exe
[08:20] <Woet> in terminal i guess?
[08:20] <ezzieyguywuf> woet: yep :-D
[08:20] <nickrud> Woet: yes, but you can create a launcher in the menu ; right click the menu bar, select edit
[08:20] <Woet> thanks
[08:21] <Woet> and how do i find the path.. just the usual windows path?
[08:21] <riotkittie> boo. hiss. i had to go and wax and wane poetic about how stable my connection was.
[08:21] <Woet> how do i browse the windows part that wine created for me?
[08:21] <nickrud> Woet: it will be something like ~/.wind/drive_c/<wherever you installed, like Program\ Files/exe
[08:22] <Woet> yeah i know, but i dont remember the name of the directory :o
[08:22] <julz> i extracted the driver to the desktop, and the first think i put into the terminal is "$dos2unix *" but it sayd command not found
[08:22] <nickrud> Woet: um typo, and you'd browse the same:  /home/<you>/.wine/drive_c
[08:22] <Woet> oh ok
[08:22] <nickrud> riotkittie: you missed the guy asking about ralink usb dongles
[08:23] <Woet> there is no folder called "wine" or ".wine"
[08:23] <nickrud> Guest10035: you question isn't very clear
[08:23] <Woet> in /home/me/
[08:23] <nickrud> Woet: did you run winecfg?
[08:23] <Woet> no?
[08:23] <Woet> but i installed a windows app with success
[08:23] <Guest10035> what are the drive letters does VMware assign, I can only find my cd rom
[08:23] <nickrud> Woet: and we've about reached my limit of wine knowledge
[08:23] <riotkittie> nickrud: i'm sure he'll be back
[08:23] <nickrud> lol
[08:23] <epotash_> can someone reccomend some software for taking a sample of an mp3
[08:23] <epotash_> to extract some seconds of it
[08:24] <epotash_> i will then use it as a ringtone
[08:24] <Woet> im now i
[08:24] <Woet> im now in winecfg
[08:24] <riotkittie> i have lowered myself to booting back into xp :|
[08:24] <Woet> let me see :)
[08:24] <julz> riokittie: i am back! and still needing help!:)
[08:24] <riotkittie> epotash_: audacity?
[08:24] <epotash_> cool
[08:24] <epotash_> i had forgotten about that
[08:24] <epotash_> thanks
[08:24] <riotkittie> julz: ok. what you want to do is remove the dongle from your computer. at this point, you will want to pick up a hammer.
[08:24] <nickrud> Guest10035: vmware's os's are not available from the host os, they exist in files under the vmware Virtual Machine definitions
[08:24] <Woet> is there software to mount a sshserver like a harddisk or folder?
[08:25] <julz> haha i have been there for a while
[08:25] <Woet> i asked before, but i stilll cant find them
[08:25] <riotkittie> julz: which adapter do you have? which chipset, do you know?
[08:25] <Woet> and 2 things: winecfg freezes, and when i try to adjust time and date, it freezes too
[08:25] <julz> when i type what im told into the terminal, i just get told the command is not found
[08:25] <Woet> just the window freezes
[08:25] <nickrud> Woet: sshfs (haven't used it myself)
[08:26] <Woet> ok, let me try that again then
[08:26] <riotkittie> what command's not found?
[08:26] <julz> i have d-link dwl-122 usb adaptor. trying to install the driver from here http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[08:26] <riotkittie> g122? or just 122?
[08:27] <julz> 122, sorry
[08:27] <julz> g
[08:27] <Woet> and what is a good replacement for UJtraedit (to code PHP)
[08:27] <julz> sorry, it is G122. with a g
[08:27] <gromozekin> 400mhz is it ok to install ubuntu?
[08:28] <nickrud> Woet: I use eclipse with  PDT , and gphpedit for quicky stuff
[08:28] <progress0r> if I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?
[08:28] <therealnanotube> gromozekin: probably better off with xubuntu...
[08:28] <riotkittie>  i have that as well, and i have gotten nowhere. i would suggest the serial monkey drivers over the ones available on ralink's site, as theyre built upon the ralink release, more recent and improved
[08:28] <riotkittie> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[08:28] <therealnanotube> gromozekin: but if you have lot's of ram, could get by with even regular gnome ubuntu.
[08:29] <Woet> how do i start sshfs?
[08:29] <riotkittie> if you can bear to wait a month, and are willing to upgrade.. gutsy supports the g122 out of the box. otoh, it doesnt seem to be completely stable.
[08:29] <progress0r> i wish more windows managers came out, im beginning to tire of gnome and kde and xfce4
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> progress0r: erm, there are hundreds.
[08:29] <nickrud> gromozekin: no. Use xubuntu. I had to move up from a 466 with 1gb of memory to run ubuntu
[08:30] <progress0r> i guess it doesnt matter i spend most of my time in the shell
[08:30] <nickrud> !info ion
[08:30] <ubotu> Package ion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:30] <progress0r> tonyyarusso: are there any new wm's out there considered slick?
[08:30] <progress0r> other than beryl
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> progress0r: E17 is often talked about
[08:30] <progress0r> hmmm i will check that out - thanks
[08:30] <neopsyche> needed more than 256 to run ubuntu?
[08:30] <progress0r> any takers on my usb question?
[08:31] <progress0r> if I can see a usb device listed when doing lsusb, can i find out what /dev/ device it is using or assigning?
[08:31] <user_> Any VNC users? I'm trying to keep computer B usable while using B's gui desktop on computer A. Both ubuntu on lan and remote desktop works , and I can control either way. I just need the other user to be able to continue using and have another session on . How would I do a VNC new gnome session ? ? \
[08:31] <neopsyche> compared to xubuntu?
[08:31] <nickrud> progress0r: http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm is considered very cool
[08:31] <progress0r> nickrud: cool ill look at that also
[08:31] <neopsyche> i have experienced usb problems using ubuntu in vmware
[08:31] <neopsyche> but thats probably just a vmware issue
[08:32] <user_> neopsyche: did you install vmware tools after building the vmachine?
[08:32] <Woet> how do i start sshfs?
[08:32] <riotkittie> boo. hiss. i need a pci free slot. :|
[08:32] <nickrud> progress0r: the fastest way is to unmount it,  do    tail -f /var/log/syslog    in a terminal,  then watch the terminal when you plug it in
[08:32] <neopsyche> oh.... lol.. no no such luck.. that was probably it!
[08:32] <julz> riotkittie: im tempted, but now im also tempted to go for xubuntu from what ive just read
[08:32] <GuHHH> hy my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.
[08:32] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: what for you need a pci slot?
[08:32] <overclucker> *sigh*
[08:33] <progress0r> nickrud: excellent idea thanks
[08:33] <nickrud> having problems with usb in vmware also, but I do have the vmware tools.
[08:33] <progress0r> nickrud: and dwm does look good
[08:33] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: so that i tape my wireless dongle to a large pile of dynamite, and get something that doesnt suck
[08:33] <nickrud> progress0r: I draw the line at having to recompile my window manager to change an option :)
[08:34] <progress0r> nickrud: dwm makes you do that?
[08:34] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: ahhehe i see :)
[08:34] <punzada> anyone know if there is a way to set which processes are run on which core on a core2 or quadcore system?
[08:34] <nickrud> progress0r: yup. but for people who are in the terminal all the time, it's very nice.
[08:34] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[08:35] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: if it's a desktop, maybe you could take out your wired NIC, and put a wireless one in its place?
[08:35] <Ahadiel> bbl
[08:35] <progress0r> nickrud: probably wicked fast i bet
[08:35] <riotkittie> is a pci-e x1 a mini pci-e or no?
[08:36] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: i think the only supported wireless ones all have the prism chipset, and ... well, ugh.
[08:36] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: heh
[08:36] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: well, either you want working wireless, or you don't ;)
[08:37] <GuHHH> why my pendrive doesnt mount automatically anymore? and it says i dont have permission to edit it.
[08:37] <leo_rockw> anybody hear has experience using uswsusp (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)?
[08:37] <leo_rockw> here*
[08:37] <lunz> i can't change my screen resolution higher than 800 x 600,can anyone help me?
[08:38] <progress0r> dang, Enlightenment DR17 (or E17 for short) is being actively developed for the last three years.
[08:38] <progress0r> 3 years?!?
[08:38] <punzada> bunch of slackers :)
[08:38] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: my last dongle had a prism chip, and really, i'd rather go through labor and delivery again than mess with another one. :P
[08:38] <progress0r> geez
[08:38] <riotkittie> i am lazy. i want something that just works.  :'(
[08:38] <user_> lunz: what version and have you downloaded updates? Or running live?
[08:39] <Innomen> just installed ubuntu 7.04 onto a partition with winxp home, now it simply says error loading operating system, after going through the install process, copy files import setting etc. any suggestions?
[08:39] <ezzieyguywuf> compiz rulez
[08:39] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: at least you'll have a working human at the end, right? :)
[08:39] <lunz> use:how to check my version?
[08:39] <progress0r> brb trying dwm
[08:39] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: aren't there any pci wifi cards that have non-prism chips?
[08:39] <lunz> u mean i have to update my graphic driver?
[08:40] <lunz> user:u mean i have to update my graphic driver?
[08:40] <therealnanotube> riotkittie: i don't know myself - i just have the intel 2200bg in my laptop, and it works, so i never had to learn about wifi chipsets and all that cruft.
[08:40] <lunz> user:how to check my version?
[08:40] <user_> Did you just install? Or using a live CD perhaps?
[08:40] <lunz> Using CD that they mailed..
[08:41] <Innomen> live CD, picked up at linux fest 07
[08:41] <riotkittie> therealnanotube: yes but my pci slots are packed with gfx, sound, and eSATA cards :|
[08:41] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d291af265 please help  to run this shell script
[08:41] <user_> OK goto system,admin,software sources and look around there for a reference to dapper or fiesty in the sources
[08:42] <Innomen> for i386 systems dell gx270
[08:42] <lunz> user:Using CD that they mailed..
[08:42] <user_> theres gotta be a better way but that is easy
[08:42] <therealnanotube> heh well, then you may be better off just running some cat5 ;)
[08:42] <riotkittie> maybe  i will just move the modem so that i can connect to that through usb, and make my husband go wireless.
[08:42] <Innomen> i think i've responded to a qwuestion aimed at someone else, am i right?
[08:43] <leo_rockw> lunz, lsb_release -d
[08:43] <riotkittie> but that would be ridiculously simple
[08:43] <skinnypuppy1334> Any VNC users here ? Got a few questions.
[08:43] <leo_rockw> lunz, type that in terminal
[08:43] <lunz> user: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?
[08:43] <lunz> user: i am totally a newbie in Ubuntu so what to look for?step by step much appreciated...
[08:44] <progress0r> ok, I unplugged and plugged in the device (usb) it says usb_device_eb1a_a310_noserial, how do i map that to the /dev/ device list?
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, do you know how to open a terminal?
[08:44] <lunz> leo_rock : yes
[08:44] <user_> Terminal is your friend
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, type lsb_release -d in terminal
[08:44] <lunz> i am opening now
[08:44] <leo_rockw> lunz, will give you your ubuntu version
[08:45] <overclucker> progress0r: what kind of device is this?
[08:45] <Innomen> where do i go for help with this issue?
[08:45] <lunz> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[08:45] <progress0r> overclucker: a tv tuner box :) probably the most frustrating da** thing ive ever bought and regret
[08:45] <leo_rockw> lunz, what video card do you have?
[08:45] <lunz> nvidia mx400
[08:45] <leo_rockw> lunz, is it a fresh install or are you using nvidia's drivers?
[08:46] <julz> the xubuntu site tells me i can install xubuntu through the ubuntu package manager, but i cant find it in there... is the site old or am i missing something?
[08:46] <Innomen> will someone tell me if my text is reaching the outside world?
[08:46] <progress0r> julz: try xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <kennobaka> Innomen: yes
[08:46] <therealnanotube> Innomen: no, i think nothing is reaching :)
[08:46] <leo_rockw> julz, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <riotkittie> julz; open a terminal and ... sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <overclucker> progress0r: no clue where a tv tuner wouls reside in /dev
[08:46] <skinnypuppy1334> mike71ghia@yahoo.com
[08:46] <progress0r> julz: make sure you the right repos setup
[08:46] <julz> thanks trying now
[08:46] <overclucker> would*
[08:46] <riotkittie> Innomen: yes
[08:46] <Innomen> kennobaka: would you have a theory as to why no one can help me?
[08:46] <progress0r> overclucker: same here
[08:46] <Innomen> thank you both
[08:47] <lunGez> GeForce MX 4000 AGP 8x
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[08:47] <progress0r> overclucker: i can see it when i do an lsusb but mythtv is looked for /dev/video0
[08:47] <mailavj> is there any way i can run modelsim in ubuntu.
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> Nvidia drivers for linux
[08:47] <lunGez> I am using nvidia driver
[08:47] <overclucker> progress0r: is it in /dev/input/by_id/ ?
[08:47] <lunGez> leo:I am using nvidia driver
[08:47] <progress0r> overclucker: checking
[08:47] <riotkittie> Innomen: ok, which OS are you being told there's an error loading?
[08:48] <therealnanotube> Innomen: because your question is hard :)
[08:48] <Innomen> i never get a chance to select an OS, i assume its trying to boot windows first
[08:48] <progress0r> overclucker: not listed there
[08:48] <leo_rockw> lunz, how did you install it?
[08:48] <julz> i got an error ans it asked if i am root. i am not logged in as root. how do i do this?
[08:48] <lunz> leo: i did not install it...auto install i think..
[08:48] <leo_rockw> julz, sudo
[08:49] <julz> oh i thought that was a typo, thanbks il ltry again
[08:49] <crazy_bus> I've got a geforce2mx.  And while it works with the default binary drivers in edgy in doesn't work with either the drivers installed by the script envy, or the restricted driver manager in feisty.  It just loads to a half loginscreen, half nvidia logo and freezes when installed by those methods.  How do I fix this?
[08:49] <leo_rockw> lunz, did you install any video driver after the fresh install?
[08:49] <lunz> yeah..
[08:49] <roel-> do-release-upgrade .. Checking for a new ubuntu release ; No new release found
[08:49] <jsc> #gentoo-amd64
[08:49] <Innomen> therealnanotube: excellent handle
[08:49] <roel-> should that work on feisty, to upgrade to 7.10?
[08:49] <leo_rockw> lunz, did you use envy or automatix?
[08:49] <lunz> before this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti400
[08:50] <therealnanotube> Innomen: glad you like. :)
[08:50] <lunz> leo before this i used Nvidia Geforce Ti400
[08:50] <lunz> leo what is envy or automatix?
[08:50] <Innomen> the world needs more physics buffs
[08:50] <leo_rockw> lunz, nothing. forget about those, lol
[08:50] <riotkittie> Innomen: i've never run into that myself, so i'm really at a loss. hm. stupid question but... your BIOS is set to boot from the HD?
[08:51] <Innomen> live booting from the cd allows me to see both the xp install and the ubuntu install and both apear fine
[08:51] <julz> i got "E: couldnt find package xubuntu-desktop"
[08:51] <leo_rockw> lunz, so you say you installed video drivers, but you don't remember how you did, right?
[08:51] <julz> it appears its just not there?
[08:51] <nomaS> see u later bye
[08:51] <lunz> leo can't ubuntu just automatically install my driver?
[08:51] <Innomen> riot: yes, but i'll go see if it lets me choose parition order *shrugs*
[08:51] <leo_rockw> julz, did you do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" ?
[08:51] <leo_rockw> lunz, no, it can't. they are not free
[08:51] <Innomen> i'm luckily on a second system so you wont have to go without my presence :)
[08:51] <julz> yep, it started doing stuff but then i got that error
[08:52] <lunz> leo yes..i downloaded a software form ubuntu forum...and i did install it but i cant remember how i installed or using what program..
[08:52] <leo_rockw> julz, mmhhh... weird.
[08:52] <leo_rockw> lunz, well... that doesn't help much...
[08:52] <therealnanotube> Innomen: it needs more geeks of every sort, really. ;)
[08:52] <Innomen> i agree
[08:52] <lunz> leo,do i have to install new driver again?
[08:53] <julz> i tried it with the live cd in, but it didnt help...
[08:53] <Innomen> this seems like a big problem
[08:53] <leo_rockw> julz, try "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop"
[08:53] <Innomen> it should have botted into one or the other
[08:53] <Innomen> do people typically not duel boot?
[08:53] <riotkittie> Innomen: i've been dual/triple/on-and-on booting for years
[08:54] <lunz> leo,can't ubuntu switch to any driver that will work best?
[08:54] <leo_rockw> lunz, no, it comes with free drivers
[08:54] <Innomen> so there is hope of finding a solution
[08:54] <neopsyche> has anyone experienced a corrupt ubuntu installation yet?
[08:54] <Innomen> i'm not doing something like trying to attach a blender to a microwave
[08:54] <leo_rockw> julz, did you see xubuntu-desktop in the list?
[08:54] <lunz> leo,meaning that i have to remove the old driver and install a new one?
[08:54] <neopsyche> I had ubuntu on a celeron.. and i had some boot issues with it.
[08:55] <Innomen> neopsyche: me of sorts
[08:55] <leo_rockw> lunz, just install the new driver. you don't need to remove the old one
[08:55] <user_> Nvidia drivers not always easy
[08:55] <overclucker> neopsyche: yup, but it was quickly found out
[08:55] <leo_rockw> lunz, i have ati, so i'm at a loss w/ nvidia
[08:55] <user_> Just install new yes
[08:55] <julz> i just did the search one, it just went to the next line without doing anything. and no i didnt see it in the list with synaptic
[08:55] <neopsyche> hmm
[08:55] <neopsyche> I like stable stuff :-)
[08:55] <riotkittie> Innomen: can you boot that up with the live CD? maybe a reinstall of GRUB will help :|
[08:55] <neopsyche> is 6.06 more stable
[08:55] <roel-> what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?
[08:55] <Innomen> its fine when installed byself
[08:55] <leo_rockw> julz, you didn't see it in the apt-cache search list? how odd
[08:55] <neopsyche> than feisty?
[08:56] <Innomen> yes i can, i will try
[08:56] <leo_rockw> julz, are you on feisty?
[08:56] <lunz> leo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?
[08:56] <user_> I run both , both are great!
[08:56] <user_> and Gutsy
[08:56] <Innomen> is it smart enough to install it to the drive?
[08:56] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, 6.06 is lts i believe
[08:56] <user_> Sure, it's lots faster
[08:56] <lunz> leo,ok let say i install a new one than if i changed it back to previous graphic card there should be no problem right?
[08:56] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk
[08:57] <riotkittie> Innomen: we're going to make it.
[08:57] <Innomen> hehe
[08:57] <lunz> leo,what is idk?
[08:57] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk = i dont know
[08:57] <Innomen> i thank you for your reassurance :)
[08:57] <overclucker> neopsyche: what does stable mean?
[08:57] <lunz> ok
[08:57] <leo_rockw> lunz, probably yeah. but i'm not sure
[08:58] <leo_rockw> user_, you're using gutsy?
[08:58] <user_> lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <neopsyche> It seems a lot of software was created working with 6.06 that has slight issues with feisty
[08:58] <lunz> leo,ok now how to install my nvidia without using a command?
[08:58] <user_> yep gutsy on current machine
[08:58] <Innomen> the bios does not let me select spesific paritions to boot from
[08:58] <julz> leo, yes i am, i downloaded it today
[08:58] <Innomen> attempting the reinstall of grub
[08:58] <leo_rockw> user_, did you fresh install or upgraded?
[08:58] <user_> tribe 6 install +2 or so partial upgrades in the last two weeks
[08:59] <user_> LOVE IT
[08:59] <leo_rockw> user_, is the installation different from feisty? (i'm using gutsy, but i upgraded from feisty)
[08:59] <Innomen> i suppose its comforting as a windows user to have problems during an install, i'd feel dirty if i didnt
[08:59] <user_> no different
[08:59] <zero-9376> is anyone here familiar with using geany for latex editing, im trying to find out if it is possible to compile a file from within geany
[08:59] <lunz> leo,ok now how to install my nvidia?
[09:00] <riotkittie> when you boot the live CD  and get to the desktop, go to the applications menu > accessories, open the terminal
[09:00] <Innomen> alright
[09:00] <leo_rockw> julz, did you change your /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
[09:00] <ratz_fatz_68135> hallooo ... was geht ???
[09:00] <user_> lunz if it doesn't work boot the live cd and find the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... you can replace the one on your HDD in that live session if you screw it up no need to reinstall
[09:01] <Innomen> riotkittie: thank you for your help, regardless of outcome
[09:01] <leo_rockw> lunz, i believe there are linux drivers in nvidia.com
[09:01] <leo_rockw> lunz, idk how good/bad they are, tho
[09:01] <julz> nope, this is a fresh install
[09:01] <lunz> user,gosh..i dont want to screw up my ubuntu..i just updated my softwares..
[09:02] <lunz> and i love using konversation lol
[09:02] <leo_rockw> can someone on feisty do "apt-cache search xubuntu-desktop" from terminal for me?
[09:02] <user_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf will need to go to your hdd by probably looking in /media/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:03] <kennobaka> leo_rockw: xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system
[09:03] <user_> lunz it is as simple as booting to the live cd and replacing that file if you goof it
[09:03] <leo_rockw> kennobaka, thanks
[09:03] <leo_rockw> julz, idk what's wrong. that package should be there.
[09:03] <riotkittie> no need to thank me ;) i just wish i was sure this would work.  do you have a terminal up yet?
[09:03] <leo_rockw> julz, did you do "sudo apt-get update" first?
[09:03] <user_> Once I realized I can rescue any config file like that I haven't been scared to mess with anything under the hood
[09:03] <julz> nope, i didnt. this comp its on doesnt have internet.
[09:04] <CamCarlos> hi people
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, ooo... lol
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, you won't be able to install w/o internet
[09:04] <user_> lunz following that?
[09:04] <Innomen> that freedom to tinker iw why i'm here in open source land
[09:04] <lunz> user,i try
[09:04] <Innomen> i'm tried of being told i cant
[09:04] <leo_rockw> julz, you need internet to install most of the stuff
[09:05] <lunz> user,how to go there?from a terminal?
[09:05] <Innomen> ok terminal is up
[09:05] <julz> hmmm, that is not good
[09:05] <riotkittie> lol. what irony ... to switch to linux b/c you're tired of being told you cant... only to be told you can't load an os
[09:05] <CamCarlos> Can anyone tell me why after installing Ubuntu for the first time Grub was not installed correctly? I chose the option where Ubuntu made all the decisions but when I boot my hard disk for my laptop is comes up with the word GRUB in the upmost left hand corner and nothing else happens!
[09:05] <lunz> user,how to go there?from a terminal?
[09:05] <Innomen> well it worked fine for my laptop
[09:05] <Innomen> i may be poushing my luck :)
[09:05] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone! can someone please tell me which folder to find gtkrc-2.0 in ? :)
[09:05] <leo_rockw> julz, you can download a xubuntu cd using another comp. and do a xubuntu fresh install.
[09:06] <user_> Do you get the idea that one config file while you are booted into a live cd doing a rescue will be at /etc/X11 and the one you want to replace will be somewhere in /media folder and will point to your hard drive
[09:06] <ce>  abiezzzzzzzzzzz
[09:06] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, locate gtkrc-2.0
[09:06] <riotkittie> Innomen: type sudo grub        ... and then  type find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:06] <Innomen> oky
[09:06] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, you may need to updatedb before doing that
[09:06] <Innomen> find?
[09:06] <riotkittie> find
[09:06] <g0dd3ss> i only have it in /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-thingeramik/examples/gtkrc-2.0
[09:06] <g0dd3ss> /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-geramik/examples/gtkrc-2.0
[09:07] <seme> hi guys... I must be doing something wrong... I can't find maven with apt-cache or apt-get
[09:07] <Innomen> i have a grub> prompt now
[09:07] <CamCarlos> I tried this command riotkittie and it sazs Error 15
[09:07] <seme> do I have to enable a repo for that?
[09:07] <lunz> user,i am sorry i don't know what are you talking about...:(
[09:07] <julz> thats what i did today. i downloaded it with this comp this morning, installed a few hours ago
[09:07] <g0dd3ss> i want to find the one to edit so my gnome panel text color can change
[09:07] <user_> lunz are you in a live cd boot session or in a normal boot up like it is installed on your pc?
[09:07] <julz> oh wait
[09:07] <Innomen> like use the search? with the guyi or the grub> thing?
[09:07] <julz> i see what you mean. yeah i think i will have to
[09:07] <Innomen> tell me what you are trying to do
[09:07] <lunz> normal boot up
[09:07] <leo_rockw> julz, xubuntu, not ubuntu
[09:07] <riotkittie> type it in the grub terminal
[09:08] <user_> Ok, when you boot a livecd it all runs in RAM
[09:08] <lunz> user i am in normal boot up..no cd in my drive
[09:08] <leo_rockw> !nvidia
[09:08] <Innomen> oh oh
[09:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <Innomen> i missed the word "type"
[09:08] <leo_rockw> !nvidia | lunz
[09:08] <ubotu> lunz: please see above
[09:08] <Innomen> i thought you were telling me to "find"
[09:08] <CamCarlos> Error 15: File not found is what I get when I do a find :(
[09:08] <Innomen> sorry lol
[09:08] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, will that work if it is a .hidden file
[09:08] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, not sure.
[09:09] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, okey thanks
[09:09] <riotkittie> CamCarlos > hmm. do you have a /boot dir?
[09:09] <user_> We can rescue a crashed install from a live cd by copying the config files of the live cd over to the harddrive to replace the broken config file
[09:09] <eko__> ooo
[09:09] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, why would the file be hidden anyway?
[09:09] <Innomen> it says (hd2,1)
[09:09] <user_> it coppies from ram to the harddrive
[09:09] <CamCarlos> Well I am running the LiveCD but my hard disk is mounted on /media/disk
[09:09] <lunz> user, my system is not crashed and i just want to change my screen resolution..that's all..
[09:10] <CamCarlos> I have a /boot and a /media/disk/boot
[09:10] <leo_rockw> !nvidia | lunz
[09:10] <ubotu> lunz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <user_> I'm just telling you how to recover very easy and not have to reinstall
[09:10] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, hummm idk, because it has important settings and they don't want the (L)users to screw it up :D
[09:10] <seme> anyone know which repository has maven?
[09:10] <riotkittie> Innomen: type  root (hd2,1)
[09:10] <user_> should it not work out
[09:10] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, it does find hidden files
[09:10] <CamCarlos> I was told Ubuntu would be easy to install :o
[09:10] <julz> leo, i think thats what i may have to get then. thanks a lot :)
[09:11] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, i have one here: /root/.gtkrc-2.0-kde
[09:11] <leo_rockw> julz, np
[09:11] <Innomen> done
[09:11] <Innomen> no echo, just return to grub>
[09:11] <riotkittie> Innomen: type setup (hd2)
[09:11] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, wah wah, it dosn't wanna find mine:(
[09:11] <riotkittie> then type quit  ... and reboot. see if that changes anything
[09:11] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, did you do updatedb?
[09:11] <Sleepy> Hi, got a small question. I got 4GB Ram & a Intel Core2Duo T7250... which Ubuntu Version do I need? The 64bit isofile says "....desktop-amd64.iso", which confuses me a bit ;)
[09:12] <lunz> user,01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[09:12] <CamCarlos> I think this is the problem I have is that the find command returns no results....Maybe something went wrong with the installation...
[09:12] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, sorry, I do it now 8-] 
[09:12] <Innomen> oky
[09:12] <Innomen> rebooting
[09:12] <lunz> user,does this mean i already installed the driver?
[09:12] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, if you never used linux it is better to start w/ the 32bit version. less problems
[09:12] <user_> Any experienced VNC users or other remote GUI gurus here? Trying to remote desktop another ubuntu on the lan with that user being able to still use the desktop. IE not just control it, but have a new gui session
[09:12] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, that updates the index data base
[09:12] <portablejim> How do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers?
[09:13] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, ok thanks
[09:13] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, np
[09:13] <Sleepy> leo, yeah, but I need the 64bit version to address the 4GB Ram, right?
[09:13] <AnAnt> hello, how can I add an alternative link for usplash-theme.so ?
[09:13] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, i really don't know, sorry
[09:13] <Innomen> well some progress
[09:13] <CamCarlos> riotkittie, Any idea why Grub would not be installed correctly after a first time install?
[09:13] <leo_rockw> Sleepy, i believe core2duo is 64, not sure tho
[09:13] <riotkittie> portablejim: i suppose you can just rm them but you may want to try blacklisting them first
[09:13] <Innomen> now when it boots i get a menu with ubuntu and xp listed among other things
[09:14] <ce_gokil> iljk
[09:14] <heguru> user_: you can enable XDMCP and launch another Xsession remotely
[09:14] <ce_gokil> ioyjtui
[09:14] <riotkittie> Innomen > and then what happens when you try to boot into one?
[09:14] <heguru> user_: is your remote client windows or Linux?
[09:14] <ce_gokil> jhkyhalo
[09:14] <Innomen> however when i try anything ubuntu it says error 22: no such partition
[09:14] <riotkittie> CamCarlos >   no idea.
[09:14] <user_> both ubuntu
[09:14] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:14] <ce_gokil> hola
[09:14] <CamCarlos> Boo Hoo
[09:14] <GNine> Sleepy, you got enuff firepower to run whatever you like.. just that AMD is not Intel
[09:14] <leo_rockw> ce_gokil, hello
[09:14] <Innomen> AND WHEN I TRY XP IT SAYS ERROR 13
[09:14] <riotkittie> Innomen: i am a big dummy. let's do the live cd thing again, back into a terminal
[09:14] <Innomen> sorry caps
[09:14] <Innomen> oky
[09:14] <Innomen> and no you arent
[09:14] <Innomen> obvious progress
[09:14] <user_> I can control with remote desktop no prob, how do I enable XDMCP ?
[09:15] <CamCarlos> Its really strange as all other Linux flavours I install always ask about installing the boot loader
[09:15] <overclucker> CamCarlos: just reinstall grub
[09:15] <leo__> Hi, I want to download ubuntu Studio, but there seems to be a difficulty. How do I get Ubuntu studio
[09:15] <CamCarlos> How?
[09:15] <Innomen> obviously ytou see what is happening
[09:15] <GNine> and any 32bit OS will work with your type of hardware, Sleepy
[09:15] <Sleepy> Gnie, I just selected 64bit at the downloadpage and the file reads ***-amd64.iso
[09:15] <overclucker> CamCarlos: it asks, but you have to see the check box
[09:15] <dhanjeet> hello any1 ever use LINBOX
[09:15] <leo_rockw> leo__, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop should do the trick
[09:16] <ce_gokil> halo
[09:16] <CamCarlos> Hmmm I don't recall any check box... Should I go through the process manually?
[09:16] <overclucker> CamCarlos: have you heard of supergrub?
[09:16] <riotkittie> CamCarlos > the alternate install will ask. i think it may be an option on the live CD but its not really in lain view
[09:16] <CamCarlos> nope
[09:16] <riotkittie> plain*
[09:16] <ce_gokil> yuhuuy
[09:16] <dhanjeet> hello any1 ever use LINBOX
[09:16] <crazy6> why does ark not work?
[09:16] <Sleepy> Gnine, a 32bit OS will only address 3,2GB Ram... that would suck ;)
[09:16] <leo__> Ok I will try, thanks Leo Rockw
[09:16] <leo_rockw> leo__, np
[09:16] <shiznit> hi
[09:16] <g0dd3ss> can anyone tell me where 2 find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty
[09:16] <user_> heguru: they are both ubuntu boxes, where do you enable XDMCP ?
[09:16] <riotkittie> where does GRUB typically install with the Live CD? MBR?
[09:16] <Innomen> whats good about it? *grumble*
[09:16] <Innomen> just kidding :)
[09:17] <heguru> user_: ok on the server, enable XDMCP (edit /etc/gdm.conf)
[09:17] <GNine> well.. then look somewhere else.. thats whats in the menu for your cookie monster
[09:17] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, lol i have one in /home/leo/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0
[09:17] <heguru> user_: feisty?
[09:17] <user_> I'll check that conf, thanks
[09:17] <Innomen> *perk* cookie?
[09:17] <user_> one fiesty one dapper one gutsy
[09:17] <overclucker> CamCarlos: supergrub is a live cd, or diskette that will help you do many different grub related tasks
[09:17] <heguru> user_: which one is the server (where you want to connect)
[09:17] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, another one in /home/leo/pidgin-2.2.1/doc-pak/doc/gtkrc-2.0
[09:17] <CamCarlos> oh ok
[09:18] <overclucker> !supergrub
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <user_> Need to go in all three directions eventually
[09:18] <CamCarlos> Just reading the webpage
[09:18] <GNine> besides.. 4gigs of RAM is way too much for ANY application or even SET of apps .. overkill, sleey
[09:18] <overclucker> ahh
[09:18] <heguru> hmm ok
[09:18] <GNine> Sleepy,
[09:18] <darkchr0n0s> a cat woke me up :@
[09:18] <heguru> user_: two things you have to change in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[09:18] <user_> So gdm.conf on the server
[09:19] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:19] <user_> Alright
[09:19] <Innomen> terminal up
[09:19] <heguru> user_: change disallowTCP to false
[09:19] <heguru> user_: and under [xdmcp]  section set Enable=true
[09:19] <heguru> user_: then restart gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:20] <riotkittie> Innomen: okay, type sudo grub ...  then type  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd2,3), then quit & reboot.
[09:20] <user_> Ok just sudo gedited it , I'll do that thanks
[09:20] <heguru> user_: all this on the server
[09:20] <Innomen> oky
[09:20] <heguru> user_: on the client just run Xephyr or Xnest (you have to install then with apt-get if not installed)
[09:20] <Innomen> says no such partition
[09:21] <riotkittie> what says no such partition? root or setup?
[09:21] <Innomen> root
[09:21] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, thankx, i dont think the pidgin one is what i want
[09:21] <Innomen> wasnt the find 1,2 ?
[09:21] <riotkittie> ok. type find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:21] <Innomen> i dont understand what we're doing so pardoin the dumbness heheh
[09:21] <riotkittie> yea 2,1.
[09:21] <g0dd3ss> 8-}
[09:22] <Innomen> (hd2,1)
[09:22] <riotkittie> the later it gets, the dumber i grow. that explains a lot.  <longs for coffee>
[09:22] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, i run kde, so all the other ones i have are called gtkrc-2.0-kde
[09:22] <Innomen> you not dumb
[09:22] <Innomen> me dumb
[09:22] <Innomen> *thumps head*
[09:22] <Innomen> see? *drool*
[09:22] <riotkittie> yep. (hd2,1) for setup and root then reboot. if that fails , we'll try the MBR route
[09:22] <g0dd3ss> leo_rockw, okk 8-] 
[09:22] <GNine> all hdd's show up at front desk , dinner is served!
[09:22] <Innomen> same as bove in same order?
[09:23] <riotkittie> heehee
[09:23] <riotkittie> yep. same order.
[09:23] <Innomen> root (hd2,1)  ... then setup (hd2,1), then quit & reboot.
[09:23] <Innomen> just confirmiung
[09:23] <riotkittie> yep
[09:23] <Innomen> oky
[09:24] <GNine> :-P
[09:24] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsups? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:24] <Innomen> simple little thing
[09:25] <Innomen> gah
[09:25] <emaconline> hello.. anyone knows how i can integrate my thunderbird to the system calendar?
[09:25] <riotkittie> not working?
[09:25] <Innomen> same errors, menu, no such parition. or error 13
[09:25] <emaconline> previously i am using evolution and evolution is attached to the system calendar and can see my tasks to do on the system calendar..
[09:26] <emaconline> thunderbird apparently cant do that
[09:26] <emaconline> any help?
[09:26] <MartinW> I have a bit of trouble with easyUbuntu, when I check the boxes and click ok it gives me a long list of packages which go ofscreen and I can't click the button to give it persmission.
[09:26] <GNine> i do like the look of thunderbird better tho
[09:27] <GNine> evolution is an all around excellent app but .. too serious in design
[09:27] <GNine> heh
[09:27] <leo_rockw> !easyubuntu
[09:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:28] <leo_rockw> !easyubuntu | MartinW
[09:28] <ubotu> MartinW: please see above
[09:28] <GNine> blah
[09:28] <heguru> emaconline: sorry thunderbird doesn't integrate with the system calendar, maybe there is an addon somewhere
[09:28] <SpiderPig> how do i check if i have gtk+1.2 installed?
[09:28] <MartinW> Sorry!
[09:28] <portablejim> How do I uninstall the Feisty wireless drivers that come with Feisty?
[09:29] <GNine> !synaptic | portablejim
[09:29] <ubotu> portablejim: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:29] <riotkittie> anyone here good with GRUB issues? :P
[09:29] <Innomen> :)
[09:29] <kahrytan> !fonts
[09:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:29] <Innomen> whats does it mean when it says error no such paritition?
[09:30] <SpiderPig> how do i check if i have gtk+ installed?
[09:30] <Innomen> when i can clearly see both paritions in question when booted from the live cd?
[09:30] <leo_rockw> riotkittie, i've been kinda following. would it be a good idea to use lilo and ditch grub?
[09:30] <shiznit> y is a wma stream not working? i have the mplayer firefox plugin
[09:30] <skinnypuppy1334> First time I've seen easyubuntu
[09:30] <Innomen> xp home ubuntu 7.04 duel boot
[09:30] <Daverocks> Innomen: is grub what's saying "no such partition"?
[09:30] <GNine> !synaptic
[09:30] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:30] <Innomen> i assume grub is the boot loading application, if so then yes
[09:30] <riotkittie> leo__: no clue. i havent touched LILO since 2004
[09:31] <skinnypuppy1334> grub is boot loader
[09:31] <leo_rockw> riotkittie, me neither, but it is a mbr solution.
[09:31] <Innomen> day 3 of ubuntu for me pardon the ignorance
[09:31] <Daverocks> Innomen: was it always like this, or did it once work?
[09:31] <shiznit> what was the command to find where an application is located
[09:31] <SpiderPig> how do i check what apps are installed in ubuntu?
[09:31] <bobslaede> hey everybody. Is there a program in existence, that would enable me to search thru my pictures, finding the right picture, from a thumbnail? It would search for the likeness of the the pictures, not filenaes.
[09:31] <leo_rockw> !synaptic | SpiderPig
[09:31] <ubotu> SpiderPig: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:31] <bobslaede> filenames*
[09:32] <Innomen> new install, previously would not boot at all said error loading os, then riotkittie came in and fixed it to the point of now at least attempting to boot
[09:32] <GNine> having a live cd or your ubuntu install cd could help you lots
[09:32] <SpiderPig> leo rockw ok ill give that a try
[09:32] <Daverocks> shiznit: "whereis" checks for common locations
[09:32] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, if you can find such aplication let me know, lol
[09:32] <Innomen> at which point i get no such partition, or unrecognized format
[09:32] <shiznit> thats right
[09:32] <bobslaede> leo_rockw: i will... heh
[09:32] <shiznit> ty daverocks
[09:32] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, i don't think smth like that exists
[09:33] <leo_rockw> bobslaede, in any system
[09:33] <bobslaede> leo_rockw: i've seen something like it on the web once, but it was a "search engine"
[09:33] <GNine> bobslaede, i have a brain program for that
[09:33] <Daverocks> Innomen: that may be a worse problem, heh
[09:33] <shiznit> Daverocks, it found 2 locations, how do i know which one is the excecutable that i need to add to autostart
[09:33] <bobslaede> GNine: v-grep?
[09:33] <bobslaede> :p
[09:33] <Innomen> the drives are there, it seems it just dosent know which ones to boot too
[09:33] <bobslaede> visual grep :)
[09:33] <Innomen> and its too stupid to give me the choice
[09:33] <Daverocks> shiznit: do "type myprogram" and that'll show which executable is being executed when you type it in bash
[09:34] <kahrytan> shiznit, /usr/bin/ is where binaries are stored
[09:34] <Daverocks> kahrytan: not necessarily
[09:34] <shiznit> what about usr/share it found that as well
[09:34] <kahrytan> shiznit, bin ... get it. binary
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, kewl, didn't know that!
[09:34] <kahrytan> Dave123, true but most often.
[09:34] <Daverocks> shiznit: that's probably not a binary
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, the type myprogram thing
[09:34] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: oh, no problem :P
[09:34] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: "which" does the same thing as well
[09:34] <shiznit> so which location do i add to the autostart lost
[09:35] <Innomen> hmmm
[09:35] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, ty
[09:35] <shiznit> list*
[09:35] <GNine> however, i follow the file organitzational logic of  f-spot and i can find anything i want
[09:35] <Innomen> it let me edit, and i changed it to 1 and then 2 instead of 2,1, and both times it said cannot mount partition
[09:35] <Daverocks> shiznit: the one that "type" gives you is probably the best
[09:35] <shiznit> type?
[09:36] <bobslaede> GNine: fspot is ok, but its a wierd little problem i have
[09:36] <bobslaede> trying to replace every image of a docx file, with the correct image of better resolution, heh
[09:36] <Daverocks> shiznit: "type theprogram"
[09:36] <_polto_> hello all
[09:36] <leo_rockw> hello _polto_
[09:37] <GreyWolfe> Hi, I am having a problem connecting a USB drive to my computer. I can run fdisk in the terminal and have the disk recognized, but GParted won't recognize it and I can't navigate to it from nautilus
[09:37] <GNine> well.  you said you got thumbnails working.  the files are all sorted by date.. follow the date to the file you're looking for
[09:37] <shiznit> im lost
[09:37] <Daverocks> shiznit: you typed "whereis theprogram", right?
[09:37] <bobslaede> GNine: its 1161 thumbnails
[09:37] <Daverocks> shiznit: instead of the command being "whereis", the command is "type"
[09:37] <bobslaede> and my deadline is in 7 hours...
[09:37] <peter_> can anyone help me with a webcam problem :?:)
[09:37] <citute> hello all
[09:38] <leo_rockw> !ask | peter_
[09:38] <ubotu> peter_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:38] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: so the disk _does_ appear in /dev
[09:38] <shiznit> ok i get it, its in the /urs/bin
[09:38] <peter_> thanks:)
[09:38] <GNine> oh.. well.. i have all my pictures sorted properly ..  excellent organizational skills do come handy
[09:38] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Yea
[09:38] <shiznit> strange, i had to add fusion-icon from /usr/share...
[09:38] <bobslaede> GNine: mines sorted to, by product number so to speak, but all the pictures in the docx file, is called image1.jpeg, image2.jpeg and so forth..
[09:38] <peter_> ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?
[09:39] <riotkittie> we could try sudo grub ...  root (hd2,3)  ... then setup (hd0) to see if putting it in the MBR would help. but im not sure it would :\
[09:39] <_polto_> can somebody help me with launchpad  ? i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?
[09:39] <shiznit> im gonna try if this works
[09:39] <bobslaede> hehe, GNine and the thumbnails in docx, are all from 1980-01-01
[09:39] <GNine> cant help you there.. there is no query that could help you if you dont know what you're looking for
[09:39] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ahh, after trying to force the mount from the terminal, it says the drive is the wrong filesystem, any idea how I can fix that?
[09:40] <bobslaede> GNine: thanks anyways
[09:40] <bobslaede> :)
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> anyone knows a "on demand" streaming server ?
[09:40] <bobslaede> i'll just get abck to work :)
[09:40] <peter_> ok so i have  awebcam that i dont think is supported by ubuntu but i just tried it in ekiga ans to my suprise the thing is working ?
[09:40] <leo_rockw> peter_, what's the question?
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> i want to install an on demand linux streaming server, on a pc with can stream videos
[09:40] <Innomen> how does ubuntu respond to being moved after its installed?
[09:40] <darkchr0n0s> which*
[09:40] <shiznit> ok that works, ty
[09:41] <Innomen> what do i do now?
[09:41] <Innomen> heheh
[09:41] <shiznit> finally i have a dock :)
[09:41] <peter_> well my question is how do i make it work for kopete as well as ekiga
[09:41] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, can you help me get the rocketdock
[09:41] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone! can someoone please tell me where to find .gtkrc-2.0 file in feisty??
[09:41] <Innomen> can i live boot and tell ubuntu "boot from this partition right now" ?
[09:41] <shiznit> monster, i dont know anything about that, im using avant
[09:42] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: Did you try searching for it?
[09:42] <riotkittie> nope. cant boot that way :|
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with getting my printer working its like on my network and i wanna print from my computer to my dads computer down the hall
[09:42] <g0dd3ss> yesss I did GreyWolfe
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, whats avant
[09:42] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss:  ~ ?
[09:42] <shiznit> monster, a dock
[09:42] <Innomen> oky
[09:42] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, can you tell me where to get it
[09:42] <g0dd3ss> it's not there riotkittie :-S
[09:42] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, if his comp has win you need samba i believe
[09:42] <shiznit> ill give you the repo
[09:42] <citute> hi albertop
[09:42] <GNine> ha!  its a hidden file i guess
[09:42] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: are you specifying just /dev/sdz or also the partition (like /dev/sdz1)?
[09:42] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss > and you're either ls -a'ing. or have unhidden it?
[09:43] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, yeah it has widows hehe
[09:43] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: The drive has no partitions listen under fdisk
[09:43] <g0dd3ss> yes i unhid everything riotkittie
[09:43] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, then you need samba to share the printer.
[09:43] <_polto_> anybody familiar with launchpad's PPA ?  i'm trying to upload a modified version of mplayer, but it lack all dependencies... how can i include dependencies to compile on PPA ?
[09:43] <citute> can somebody elp me to do my home work?
[09:44] <Innomen> lol
[09:44] <peter_> lol
[09:44] <Innomen> awesome
[09:44] <shiznit> monster, eb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all
[09:44] <shiznit> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy all
[09:44] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and not in /dev either?
[09:44] <leo_rockw> citute, is it free homework? or propietary?
[09:44] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: Go to your home folder, unhide everything, I found mine there no problem
[09:44] <_polto_> citute, sure
[09:44] <_polto_> :)
[09:44] <peter_> lol
[09:44] <Innomen> what version is your homework?
[09:44] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: like you see /dev/sdz in /dev, but any sdz1, sdz2 etc?
[09:44] <shiznit> monster, never mind
[09:44] <shiznit> that wont work
[09:44] <g0dd3ss> i did GreyWolfe :( it doesn't seem to be there :-S
[09:44] <Innomen> hmwrk.dll
[09:44] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: What do I need to do to Xephyr into that server i changed the config file on earlier?
[09:44] <shiznit> someone gave me the repos but i had to add a key and stuff, have no clue how to do that
[09:44] <Innomen> *snicker*
[09:44] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Not in there either, only sdc, no sdc1
[09:45] <SpiderPig> how do i copy a file from one place to another?
[09:45] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:45] <peter_> homework.deb lol
[09:45] <leo_rockw> peter_, that's not a correct package. it lacks version and architecture
[09:45] <peter_> :( my bad
[09:45] <leo_rockw> peter_, lol
[09:45] <riotkittie> g0dd3ss: open a term and ... sudo updatedb && locate .gtkrc-2.0
[09:45] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: Xephy -query yourserverip :3
[09:45] <GNine> have you consider the possibility that you might not have it at all , g0dd3ss
[09:45] <heguru> *Xephyr
[09:45] <skinnypuppy1334> thanks again
[09:45] <MoNsTeR> shiznit, im on feisty ill try to get it
[09:45] <g0dd3ss> riotkittie, ok i just did that updatedb thing liek 5 mins ago
[09:46] <shiznit> oh ok
[09:46] <GreyWolfe> g0dd3ss: was there any file with a name starting with gtkrc? Mine had a different name.
[09:46] <citute> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry guys Im just kidding,
[09:46] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, did you sudo the updatedb?
[09:46] <peter_> i'm still having a problem with my webcam :(
[09:46] <g0dd3ss> GNine,  why would that be? sorry im a noob
[09:46] <GNine> bingo
[09:46] <g0dd3ss> yes leo_rockw
[09:46] <leo_rockw> g0dd3ss, if you can't find it w/ locate... then you probly not have it
[09:46] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, where can i get samba
[09:46] <GNine> why do you need to find that file , g0dd3ss
[09:46] <riotkittie> oh dear. my kid's going to be up in two hours.  i should go to bed :o
[09:46] <amro> what does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?
[09:46] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and dmesg doesn't show anything about partitions being found...?
[09:47] <g0dd3ss> GNine,  i wanna change the color of the text in my gnome panel 8-] 
[09:47] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR : it's in the repos
[09:47] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, my first guess would be synaptic
[09:47] <Innomen> night riotkittie
[09:47] <riotkittie> sudo aptitude install samba
[09:47] <Innomen> thank you :)
[09:47] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, leo_rockw , thanks
[09:47] <riotkittie> nite Innomen. hope someone comes along who can help you solve it. GRUB can be evil. :P
[09:47] <riotkittie> nite everyone
[09:47] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, setting samba up is a different story lol
[09:47] <zoiks> If i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?
[09:47] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: [387826.973819]  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[09:48] <peter_> can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?
[09:48] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: well it's highly unlikely you'd have a UDF partition on a flash drive :P
[09:48] <amro> what does "tar -A"mean? Would someone give me a example?
[09:48] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, is it hard if it is im gonna need help im prety new to linux
[09:48] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m4edc25b3 please help me i got this error when i am tring to install prozilla a download manager
[09:48] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: What am I looking for in there, can I pastebin the outout?
[09:48] <GNine> try applications > settings > settings manager   g0dd3ss   you might not need a manual edit
[09:49] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, there are many guides on the web. just google samba printer or smth like that
[09:49] <MoNsTeR> ok
[09:49] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: right after doing the debian login in the new window it crashes and coredumps ... fiesty client gutsy server
[09:49] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, i don't have a printer and I don't have win... lol
[09:49] <darkchr0n0s> ksivaji, use wget.. it works
[09:49] <peter_>  can someone explain to me why my cam would work in ekiga and not be detected by canorama or kopete?
[09:49] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: you're looking for a line like "new partition" something
[09:49] <leo_rockw> !repeat | peter_
[09:49] <ubotu> peter_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:49] <shiznit> can anyone help me get this audio stream working?
[09:49] <darkchr0n0s> peter_ ur cam works.. mine doesn't at all :\
[09:49] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s but i doesnt provides resume support
[09:49] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s but it* doesnt provides resume support
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> ksivaji use wget -c <link>
[09:50] <peter_> oh i 'm not familiar with here ....i just thought it went by unoticed ...my baaaayd :(
[09:50] <ksivaji> darkchr0n0s ok
[09:50] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, lol but my dad doesnt wanna switch other wise i wouldnt either
[09:50] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: can you try the other way around? it might be a gutsy issue as it uses lots of cutting edge stuff
[09:50] <Daverocks> !info prozilla
[09:50] <ubotu> Package prozilla does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> peter_ nothing you type gets un-noticed
[09:50] <peter_> it doesnt really work though
[09:50] <darkchr0n0s> what is prozilla ?
[09:51] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Not seeing anything like that
[09:51] <Daverocks> darkchr0n0s: a download manager, like kget, or FDM on windows
[09:51] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: Good Idea, what versions have you run it with?
[09:51] <GNine> !kopete
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <shiznit> downthemall is a all you need
[09:51] <GNine> ha!
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> gnine where
[09:51] <GNine> me neither
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> lol
[09:51] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: and gparted doesn't show any partitions?
[09:51] <heguru> skinnypuppy1334: gutsy,feisty client dapper,edgy,feisty server
[09:51] <g0dd3ss> gahh i hate being a dumbass noob
[09:51] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: as in, does it actually show unallocated space?
[09:51] <darkchr0n0s> torrents is all we need :-}
[09:51] <peter_> join the club
[09:51] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, install ciberlinux, he won't notice the difference lol http://tecnicoslinux.com.ar/web/node/125 (just look at the screenshots)
[09:52] <MoNsTeR> whatever nobody can help me with samba
[09:52] <shiznit> does bittyrant work in ubuntu
[09:52] <GNine> !samba
[09:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:52] <skinnypuppy1334> heguru: thats terrific to hear. Thank you for your help
[09:52] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Gparted doesnt even show the drive at all, it detects a drive that isnt even connected
[09:52] <Daverocks> shiznit: it's java, so it should
[09:52] <heguru> peter_: in ekiga, what is your selected video manager v4l or v4l2?
[09:52] <spiderfire> hi
[09:52] <peter_> v4l2
[09:52] <zoiks> If i want to make a linux softraid, do i create to raid first and then make partitions within that raid or do I make the partitions and raid the partitions together?
[09:52] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, my dad uses media center like theres no tomorrow
[09:53] <spiderfire> whats the unstable ubuntu called?
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> gutsy
[09:53] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, gutsy
[09:53] <Daverocks> shiznit: there's a linux download link on the bittyrant website
[09:53] <spiderfire> anyone here running gutsy?
[09:53] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, i am
[09:53] <leo_rockw> !gutsy | spiderfire
[09:53] <ubotu> spiderfire: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> It's not too unstable been using almost 3 weeks no prob
[09:53] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[09:53] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: how is it?
[09:53] <tat> zoiks: you make raid autodetect-partitions, and create raids of them
[09:53] <skinnypuppy1334> It ROCKS
[09:54] <Irreducibilis> Is there a scrap of good left in anyone?
[09:54] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ... and... this flash drive works perfectly on windows?
[09:54] <zoiks> tat: so create the partitions first
[09:54] <spiderfire> how do i download gutsy?
[09:54] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, i don't notice too much of a difference. but then again, i had everything working already.
[09:54] <zoiks> tat: also do i use mdadm?
[09:54] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: I have no idea, I don't have windows on my computer
[09:54] <Daverocks> Irreducibilis: if you're lucky ;)
[09:54] <heguru> peter_: and what camera do you have? v4l2 in kopete is unstable
[09:54] <tat> zoiks: yes and yes, im sure you can find some decent how to's on the net
[09:54] <daya> in which section should I specify the frequency parameter in xorg.conf file,
[09:55] <punzada> anyone ever have the issue when transferring a folder that KFTPGrabber just skips a file for no peticular reason?
[09:55] <punzada> ;/
[09:55] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, you can either upgrade from feisty or download a live cd
[09:55] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: is there meant to be data on this usb already, or is it new?
[09:55] <SpiderPig> what does this mean : To install pysoulseek from the source tree run the following:
[09:55] <SpiderPig> python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>
[09:55] <zoiks> tat thanks
[09:55] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: can i install from the livecd?
[09:55] <peter_> when i type lsusb   i get Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 WebCam
[09:55] <SpiderPig> what does the --prefix=dir part mean?
[09:55] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, from a gutsy live cd
[09:55] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[09:55] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: do you know the link to the gutsy?
[09:55] <shiznit> how do i see what version of java i have?
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[09:56] <taurusivy> how can i download through ftp using proxy with wget or lftp
[09:56] <SpiderPig> shiznit check synaptic
[09:56] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: There was data on it, but I formatted it in Gparted
[09:56] <taurusivy> seems to me it's not working
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, if i were you i would wait till release
[09:56] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: it's like the install prefix, you don't have to give the option, by default it's usually /usr or /usr/local (can't remember what it is by default in ubuntu)
[09:56] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: It just randomly stopped working
[09:56] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, october 18th
[09:56] <christopher_> in ubuntu i dont care much for gnome and i decided to install kde after I have it how do i uninstlall gnome?
[09:56] <shiznit> spiderpig, i dont have jre5 or 6
[09:56] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: hm, if it works in fdisk, can you make a new partition with fdisk?
[09:57] <heguru> peter_: i don't use kopete, but just check if there is an option to switch to v4l2 somewhere in the preferences?
[09:57] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: why should i wait?
[09:57] <SpiderPig> Dave rocks so what should i type for this to install? sudo python setup.py
[09:57] <SpiderPig> ?
[09:57] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: make sure you're in the same folder as the setup.py file, then try "sudo python setup.py install"
[09:57] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, it is still buggy. if you decide to install it don't do it in a production comp
[09:57] <skinnypuppy1334> what is the terminal equivelent to c:\dir *.mp3 /s  ?
[09:57] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Don't know how to do that
[09:57] <SpiderPig> daverocks ok uno momento
[09:57] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: ok
[09:58] <taurusivy> i use: wget -r -nH --user=xx --password=xxxx --proxy ftp://59.64.183.185/dir/
[09:58] <Daverocks> skinnypuppy1334: "ls -l *.mp3" ?
[09:58] <SpiderPig> daverocks ok now it did alot of stuff
[09:58] <taurusivy> and i config in .wgetrc : ftp_proxy=<ip>:<port>
[09:58] <skinnypuppy1334> Daverocks: thank you
[09:58] <taurusivy> is that not enough?
[09:58] <christopher_> also what is the best dock in kde?
[09:58] <SpiderPig> daverocks is it installed now?
[09:58] <leo_rockw> anybody here has experience using uswsusp? (s2disk, s2ram, s2both)
[09:59] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: did it report success?
[09:59] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i have ksmoothdock
[09:59] <christopher_> is what I have
[09:59] <leo_rockw> christopher_, is the one that gave me less problems
[09:59] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: "n" to add a new partition
[09:59] <christopher_> ty
[09:59] <roel-> what's wrong when 'do-release-upgrade' doesn't work?
[10:00] <christopher_> how do i install it in kubuntu
[10:00] <christopher_> got it on my gentoo box
[10:00] <christopher_> sudo apt-get install ksmoothdock?
[10:00] <SpiderPig> davrocks no it did not but it i did pyslsk and it started so i guess it works. thanks
[10:00] <leo_rockw> christopher_, exactly
[10:00] <christopher_> ty
[10:00] <leo_rockw> christopher_, np
[10:00] <TheSkorm> sudo apt-get install ya_mum
[10:00] <christopher_> im liking the whole not leaving cli behind
[10:00] <peter_> i'm not seeing an option to switch to v4l2 , it doesnt even see the cam in kopete
[10:01] <leo_rockw> TheSkorm, i tried that... i had a dependency nightmare
[10:01] <Daverocks> SpiderPig: good, it works, now just be careful not to break it, lol
[10:01] <TheSkorm> leo_rockw: did you add family tree into sources.list
[10:01] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i doubt linux will ever leave the cli behind. cli rocks
[10:01] <leo_rockw> TheSkorm, oh snap! should try that again then. lol
[10:01] <christopher_> there is one distro currently trying
[10:02] <christopher_> pclos
[10:02] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i'd actually switch to slackware if i didn't like my current installation. i like compiling (yeah, i'm crazy)
[10:03] <christopher_> is why i have gentoo
[10:03] <christopher_> i figured id give *buntu for a run
[10:03] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i haven't tried gentoo yet.
[10:03] <christopher_> gentoo is the next best thing to LFS
[10:03] <christopher_> its all about your choice
[10:04] <leo_rockw> christopher_, that's what i did. i decided to try kubuntu and i liked it. i'm probly switching to debian soon. and then maybe gentoo.
[10:04] <lunz> how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:04] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: hang on, you LIKE compiling and HAVEN'T tried gentoo? does.. not.. make.. sense
[10:04] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, i was a slackware user
[10:04] <TheSkorm> linux mint, or you could just go straight to bsd (freebsd) where real men live
[10:04] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: fair enough, but still.. :P
[10:04] <christopher_> gentoo has less packages with portage just the ones everyone wants
[10:04] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, gentoo wasn't around when i started using slackware
[10:04] <shiznit> does linux have upnp?
[10:04] <christopher_> debian has the most packages
[10:04] <christopher_> my first distro was slack 5
[10:04] <heguru> shiznit: client or server?
[10:05] <neopsyche> what is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked
[10:05] <heguru> shiznit: upnpd is the server
[10:05] <leo_rockw> slackware 7.1 was my first distro ever. and i compiled my kernel on the same day i did that installation
[10:05] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: can you give more explanation, I did that and it gives more options
[10:05] <christopher_> back when linux was still hard to install was kinda nice
[10:05] <shiznit> heguru, the one that forwards ports for you
[10:05] <christopher_> i miss it
[10:05] <shiznit> i think its called upnp
[10:05] <spiderfire> is gusty alsmost a full 6 months already?
[10:05] <Daverocks> Greyhound-: select primary partition
[10:05] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ^^
[10:06] <spiderfire> i thought its released every 6 months
[10:06] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, then?
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: upnpd is the upnp daemon, you have to install it on the router/nat/firewall
[10:06] <shiznit> its enabled on my router
[10:06] <neopsyche> what is a good ftp gui to run on ubuntu? gftp is ok but it doesnt have a copy / paste feature last time i checked
[10:06] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, feisty was released on april, gutsy on october
[10:06] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, 6 months release schedule
[10:06] <lunz> leo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: ok on the client side, upnp is application specific
[10:06] <Daverocks> Greyhound-: now you probably want partition number 1
[10:06] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: didnt know time flied so fast
[10:06] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with avant dock
[10:06] <christopher_> i didnt know kubuntu existed otherwise i woulda dloaded it in iso instead
[10:06] <heguru> shiznit: azureus, limewire are two applications that have upnp built-in
[10:06] <christopher_> lol
[10:07] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, did that.
[10:07] <shiznit> heguru, and it will work automatically?
[10:07] <leo_rockw> lunz, it did it automagically for me.
[10:07] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me install AWN
[10:07] <heguru> shiznit: just enable upnp on the router and on your clients and rest is all done for you automatically
[10:07] <leo_rockw> christopher_, i didn't even bother trying ubuntu. i'm all about kde
[10:08] <christopher_> me2
[10:08] <neopsyche> ubuntu is not a gui
[10:08] <shiznit> heguru, ok ty
[10:08] <SpiderPig> any1 got soulseek installed?
[10:08] <christopher_> jus didnt know it existed i suppose i was too lazy to look harder
[10:08] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, no, but gnome is
[10:08] <christopher_> :P
[10:08] <neopsyche> yes.. but then perhaps you were referring to kubuntu?
[10:09] <leo_rockw> neopsyche, well i said "i didn't even bother trying ubuntu, i'm all about kde" hence... i installed kubuntu
[10:09] <skinnypuppy1334> Is Easyubuntu for fiesty or is it sort of phased out?
[10:09] <neopsyche> ic
[10:09] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: right, but the standard "ubuntu" dist is gnome on top of the ubuntu base, kubuntu runs on ubuntu as well
[10:09] <peter_> would net meeting be a good plugin to add in kopete for video?
[10:09] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, you say potato i say... lol
[10:09] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, but i agree
[10:09] <Daverocks> lol yeah
[10:10] <neopsyche> Thanks for the clarification Daverocks.. isnt it wonderful how the open source world actually seems to care about understanding the terminology.. even though it might sound trivial to the average user of "other operating systems" I think its great :-)
[10:10] <neopsyche> other operating systems > namely windows
[10:10] <leo_rockw> omg so late! i had to do a translation! g2g lol
[10:10] <cafuego> I'm sorry, but potato is debian, not ubuntu ;-)
[10:11] <Daverocks> neopsyche: the average user of windows doesn't know what an operating system is :P
[10:11] <leo_rockw> cafuego, then what is ubuntu? sweet potato? lol
[10:11] <neopsyche> rotfl
[10:11] <cafuego> Hmm... back when debian was potato there was no ubuntu, afaik.
[10:12] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, the average user doesn't know that linux is NOT an OS
[10:12] <Daverocks> i wasn't joking though, to most people, windows "is" the computer, and there is conception of other possible operating systems. they know about macs, but they conceive of macs as a different computer, since they do run on separate hardware
[10:12] <spiderfire> is tribe referring to a game?
[10:12] <christopher_> ok in kde how do i put the trash can on the desktop?
[10:12] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: correct
[10:12] <spiderfire> tribe3
[10:12] <heguru> !tribe | spiderfire
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <hypodyne> hi all
[10:13] <leo_rockw> spiderfire, you mean the codename of the beta release?
[10:13] <spiderfire> leo_rockw: k
[10:13] <hypodyne> anyone know anything about attack trees
[10:13] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, i like when RMS goes "gnu slash linux!"
[10:13] <cafuego> are they like drop bears?
[10:13] <christopher_> simple things slip past me when im insanely tired
[10:14] <MoNsTeR> i like how nobody helps me
[10:14] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: well, look, in my opinion, if you want to refer to the whole operating system, you should call it "perl/X/apache/.../.../../GNU/Linux"
[10:14] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, haha, tru
[10:14] <Daverocks> leo_rockw: it's not just GNU who have their tools on top of linux
[10:15] <leo_rockw> Daverocks, never thought of that, but it is true
[10:15] <christopher_> MoNsTeR you cant demand help
[10:15] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: Most likely nobody has any idea what AWN is or what your problem with installing it is.
[10:15] <leo_rockw> !patience | MoNsTeR
[10:15] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:15] <Daverocks> MoNsTeR: if you "like how nobody helps me", then why are you complaining? (if you like it? ;))
[10:15] <peter_> have patience like me :)
[10:16] <Jazon> hihi
[10:16] <christopher_> or for a much simpler rout google is a powerful tool
[10:16] <stefg> !google
[10:16] <StalkerOfRisa`> [Google Search] : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=&btng=google+search&meta=
[10:16] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[10:16] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[10:16] <Jazon> anyone here have ubuntu on one of the new ati imac 24" ers ??
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> get off my back
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> all you
[10:16] <Jazon> doktoreas: what are you doin here? :P
[10:16] <doktoreas> anyone uses ubuntu on a mac mini?
[10:16] <Jazon> lol
[10:16] <doktoreas> ha Jazon :D
[10:16] <Daverocks> !anyone | doktoreas
[10:16] <ubotu> doktoreas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:16] <cafuego> doktoreas: I used to, a G4 ppc one.
[10:16] <MoNsTeR> i asked for help 2 times within 50 times of people saying something
[10:17] <Jazon> doktoreas: I can tell you all about an intel imac w/nvidia ;-)
[10:17] <christopher_> why would you own an imac :P you overpaid for the hadware to install linux onto kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it? mean no offense j/w
[10:17] <MoNsTeR> and i get asked to wait longer thats great isn't it?\
[10:17] <doktoreas> Jazon: need to learn some ubuntu, and my mac mini will sacrifice :D
[10:17] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: Just because they were talking didn't mean they could or wanted to help you. In the mean time I *still* don't know what AWN is or why you can't install it.
[10:17] <Jazon> christopher_: one thing: 24" lcd screen
[10:17] <christopher_> ahh
[10:17] <christopher_> but dell offers 30 for the same price
[10:17] <leo_rockw> MoNsTeR, i asked about s2ram and s2disk, can you help me? lol
[10:17] <christopher_> and u jus hoot it to ur current hardware
[10:17] <cafuego> but it's a dell
[10:18] <Jazon> not with the rest of the amazing package... anyway,
[10:18] <christopher_> i love the mac
[10:18] <Jazon> cafuego: lol
[10:18] <christopher_> but too much lockin
[10:18] <dgjones> !patience | MoNsTeR
[10:18] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:18] <Nalleman> hi. im going to make a backup of my home directory and then reinstall ubuntu. Will i have to change permissions for all files and folder in order do be able to copy them back to my home directory or delete them from my temporary driver?
[10:18] <christopher_> its worse than ms but atleast they give you innovations
[10:18] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, now the new partition shows up in /dev
[10:18] <MoNsTeR> DGJones qut trppin
[10:18] <leo_rockw> i seriously have to go. glhf everyone
[10:19] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: now you should be able to format it with whatever (e.g. gparted)
[10:19] <Julz> can the live cd automatically use a windows driver for a wireless card?
[10:19] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: So you're not going to explain what AWN is?
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> leo_rockw, i have no clue what that is and i need to change the color of average peoples text in xchat so i can see you all
[10:19] <lunz> leo,how to add dual boot to my ubuntu?anyone can guide me step by step?
[10:19] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: for usb drives, fat16 or fat32 is usual
[10:19] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Doesn't help, when I attempt to do anything to it from gparted, the program just closes
[10:19] <stefg> MoNsTeR: have a read ? https://launchpad.net/awn
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> AWN is avant window navigator
[10:19] <GreyWolfe> it says it still needs to write a filesystem
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> stefg, im doing that right now as a matter of fact
[10:20] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: ouch... what about mkfs.vfat ?
[10:20] <cafuego> MoNsTeR: And you can't install it because...?
[10:20] <christopher_> Jazon what is your knowledge of linux?
[10:20] <livenicely> hello
[10:20] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: I have no idea how to use that, if you havent guessed yet, I am still pretty new to using Linux :P
[10:20] <Jazon> christopher_: fair...  why?
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> cafuego, i can im doing it right now
[10:20] <livenicely> can i ask a question but questions
[10:20] <christopher_> i can reccoment an excellent distro for the mac
[10:20] <christopher_> gentoo
[10:20] <christopher_> i have it on my mac mini
[10:21] <peter_> anyone else wanna help me with my webcam problem?
[10:21] <heguru> !ask | livenicely
[10:21] <ubotu> livenicely: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:21] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: yeah sure :P check out "man mkfs.vfat", you should be able to use it to format the partition to fat16 or fat32... meanwhile i kind of gtg :P
[10:21] <Jazon> i run feisty fawn on the imac 24" (nvidia) and everything works... (everything)
[10:21] <heguru> peter_: you want to do video conf with which network?
[10:21] <GreyWolfe> Daverocks: Ok, thanks for your help
[10:21] <stefg> MoNsTeR: don't expect too much of AWN. it's pretty alpha, pretty broken and far from ready for daily usage, as it is hard to configure it (or was, when i last looked)
[10:21] <heguru> peter_: msn? yahoo? others?
[10:22] <peter_> msn using kopete
[10:22] <warbler> !boot
[10:22] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:22] <Woet> how do i accept people to have added me @ gaim ?
[10:22] <christopher_> but if Ubuntu be your favor http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_dual_boot_ubuntu_linux_mac_os_x.html
[10:22] <n2diy> I have an application where I want a computer to have let known users access it at certain times of the day. Writing a script to shutdown is hard, but how to get it to turn itself on?
[10:22] <penguincentral> Woet: how is ubuntu going?
[10:22] <MoNsTeR> stefg, ight
[10:22] <kristjan_> are qemu and virutalbox about same in speed?
[10:22] <Julz> help? the live cd allows wireless one one computer, but not on a different one. same wireless card. any idea how i can fix it?
[10:22] <peter_> my webcam isnt detected by kopete though but it is by ekiga
[10:22] <christopher_> virtualbox is better
[10:22] <Woet> awesome penguincentral
[10:22] <christopher_> i find qemu to bug out
[10:22] <Woet> i love it
[10:23] <kristjan_> christopher_: what about performance?
[10:23] <livenicely> i am using Ubuntu 7.04 Error No.1
[10:23] <livenicely> root@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# sudo apt-get install -f
[10:23] <livenicely> Reading package lists... Done
[10:23] <livenicely> Building dependency tree
[10:23] <livenicely> Reading state information... Done
[10:23] <livenicely> E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:23] <livenicely> root@DigitalMedia:/home/livenicely# I have not virtual box package now. Error No.2
[10:23] <christopher_> about the same
[10:23] <livenicely> when i try to install atari800 .deb package The package might be courrpeted or you are not allowed to open the file . check the permission of the file.
[10:23] <livenicely> but package and file is ok. Error No.3
[10:23] <livenicely> when i open synaptic package manager it says E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:23] <livenicely> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. Error No. 4 when i am trying to download any thing through firefox it asks where to save or download but download is not going to start and not open download window.
[10:23] <peter_> canorama doesnt see it either
[10:23] <penguincentral> Woet: wonderful.  is everything working?
[10:23] <Woet> almost
[10:23] <punzada> I'm glad the filezilla developers fixed implicit ssl in the 3.0.1 version
[10:23] <Woet> sshfs is quite a bitch to me
[10:23] <penguincentral> heh
[10:23] <christopher_> virtualbox ose is made from qemu but it is more stable and easier to use
[10:23] <punzada> every other ftp client blows goats ;/
[10:23] <Woet> and when i try to edit date & time, i get an empty window
[10:23] <Woet> in stead of settings in it
[10:23] <heguru> !pastebin | livenicely
[10:23] <ubotu> livenicely: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:23] <penguincentral> Woet: heh.
[10:24] <penguincentral> i remember you a couple of days ago trying to decide to switch from xp to ubuntu
[10:24] <Woet> yeah
[10:24] <penguincentral> always good to help a switcher
[10:24] <christopher_> penguincentral what apps are you married to
[10:24] <christopher_> ?
[10:24] <Woet> well, im still using XP as a desktop
[10:24] <penguincentral> ok
[10:24] <Woet> but ubuntu is my work laptop
[10:24] <penguincentral> christopher_: what do you mean
[10:24] <christopher_> virtualbox ose for all ur windows needs
[10:24] <Woet> too much software doesnt quite work on ubuntu :p
[10:25] <lunz> !dualboot
[10:25] <penguincentral> Woet: Woo!!!
[10:25] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[10:25] <christopher_> ubuntu and kubuntu are faster than xp on every level
[10:25] <penguincentral> christopher_: what are you talking about?
[10:25] <n2diy> Sorry, wrong question. I have an application where I want a computer to let known users access it at certain times of the day. The client doesn't want the box to run 24/7. Writing a script to shutdown isn't hard, but how to get it to turn itself on? It is old hardware, no wake on commands available.
[10:25] <viRghiN_18_jkt> allow
[10:25] <christopher_> you can still have all the apps you use in linux
[10:25] <Woet> How do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?
[10:25] <Julz> anyone know much about wireless cards? im having trouble detecting mine
[10:25] <SETKEH-NRNS> http://setkeh.bravehost.com/linux.htm for info on the teamspeak server i run for linux
[10:25] <christopher_> without much hassle
[10:25] <penguincentral> christopher_: I use firefox, pidgin quite a lot
[10:25] <christopher_> are you a gamer?
[10:26] <livenicely> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/14368
[10:26] <penguincentral> christopher_: not really, although I own a PS2
[10:26] <christopher_> no i mean on the pc
[10:26] <penguincentral> not really
[10:26] <peter_> cod 4 check it out
[10:26] <christopher_> other than ff and gaim what do you use?
[10:26] <penguincentral> christopher_: I use Xchat-gnome, utorrent under wine, rhythmbox
[10:26] <alok_> Julz:Check out your restricted driver manger
[10:26] <penguincentral> openoffice occasionally
[10:27] <penguincentral> mencoder, totem, vlc
[10:27] <penguincentral> gizmo project
[10:27] <penguincentral> miro
[10:27] <penguincentral> Tvtime
[10:27] <christopher_> nice list
[10:27] <heguru> Julz: run lspci command and pastebin it
[10:27] <Julz> alok: it worked with the same typoe of card on another comp just from the live cd, so shouldnt it work this time too?
[10:27] <penguincentral> thanks christopher_
[10:27] <christopher_> i jus wanna know i am trying to make a distro that suits what most people use
[10:28] <penguincentral> notice that it is virtually all open source
[10:28] <christopher_> right lol
[10:28] <penguincentral> good luck christopher_
[10:28] <stefg> n2diy: the only option i see is using a power plug with a timer in it. so don't switch the box off with the 'halt' command, just let it idle after the power down routine, and wait for the power timer to cut the power. when the power comes back, it should reboot
[10:28] <christopher_> cept utorrent
[10:28] <penguincentral> yeah
[10:28] <christopher_> ktorrent is just as light
[10:28] <penguincentral> but i use wine
[10:28] <SETKEH-NRNS> http://setkeh.bravehost.com/linux.htm for info on the teamspeak server i run for linux
[10:28] <Woet> How do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?
[10:28] <christopher_> but utorrent is slightly better
[10:28] <penguincentral> honestly, all of the linux torrent programs that i have tried have screwed me to the point that i gave up on them
[10:29] <Julz> heguru: its on a different comp so i cant paste but tell me what i should get and i can tell u
[10:29] <penguincentral> i tried utorrent on wine and it worked perfectly without a hitch
[10:29] <peter_> try ktorrent
[10:29] <penguincentral> peter_: i think i tried it and it sucked
[10:29] <MoNsTeR> anybody know why this happens , i press alt + f2 and i type avant-window-navigator and nothing pops up
[10:29] <peter_> really .....i'm liking it
[10:29] <heguru> Julz: just the type of network card, something like: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[10:29] <penguincentral> i tried azureus, qbittorrent, official bittorrent, and a few others... and they all sucked
[10:30] <n2diy> stefg: Thanks, now I'm wondering about the shutdown command? I'f I issue shutdown -r 360 would it prevent log ins, and then restart in 3 hours? I know, read man shutdown.
[10:30] <penguincentral> !hi | elkubuntu
[10:30] <ubotu> elkubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:30] <SpiderPig> is it possible to install soulseek with 'sudo apt-get install ?
[10:30] <frostburn> penguincentral, use azureus with the latest sun jre and jar from sourceforge, it's 10x better than ubuntu's
[10:30] <t3318_> what is soulseek?
[10:30] <penguincentral> SpiderPig: you can try though
[10:30] <Hirvinen> SpiderPig: At least according to WikiPedia, Soulseek is Windows only.
[10:30] <heguru> SpiderPig: souldseek is not in the official repositories
[10:30] <christopher_> yea a nice clean desktop with firefox kopete gimp amarok xchat and synaptic on the desktop with a nice ksmoothdock on the bottom and only the system tray wich is hidden on the right is a snazzy desktop I would use as the default desktop with some georgous beryl effects
[10:31] <stefg> n2diy: never tried that, but it's quite uneconomic to let the box run without being accessible
[10:31] <Julz> heguru: surecom 54m wlan pci adapter EP-9321-g
[10:31] <Hirvinen> SpiderPig: Might work with wine though.
[10:31] <penguincentral> frostburn: i am actually very happy with utorrent, it is probably the best app to use in wine
[10:31] <christopher_> right
[10:31] <n2diy> stefg: true...
[10:31] <spiderfire> hows ktorrent?
[10:31] <Nalleman> hi. im going to make a backup of my home directory and then reinstall ubuntu. Will i have to change permissions for all files and folder in order do be able to copy them back to my home directory or delete them from my temporary driver?
[10:31] <peter_i> ktorrent works fine for me
[10:32] <peter_i> user friendly and its fast ...for me :)
[10:32] <spiderfire> Nalleman: i just copied them to another drive..but you can preserve permissions with bzip i think
[10:33] <frostburn> Nalleman, when you copy it, use $cp --preserve
[10:33] <n2diy> stefg: I like your approach now, I'll script it to shutdown, and when someone wants to turn it on, they'll have to do it.
[10:33] <heguru> Julz: wait let me check
[10:33] <MoNsTeR> anybody know why this happens , i press alt + f2 and i type avant-window-navigator and nothing pops up
[10:33] <Julz> kk
[10:33] <frostburn> Nalleman, check the man file though
[10:33] <clouder> tranmission and deluge are 2 great clients.  transmission is completely no frills light weight and deluge is a little closer to utorrent than anything else.  All in all though there is no native utorrent alt. ;/
[10:33] <Woet> How do i allow users to add me to msn @ gaim?
[10:34] <cjae_> ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link
[10:34] <MoNsTeR> Woet, a thing will pop up asking if you want to allow them to see yuour status and stuff
[10:34] <peter_i> you mean add your ms account in gaim?
[10:34] <Woet> i dont get the pop up :o
[10:34] <penguincentral> Woet: well, that's a problem
[10:34] <howlingmadhowie> hi everybody :) quick question. i'm trying to edit a standard ascii text in openoffice to make it look nicer and in the original, every line ends with a newline character. is there a simple way to get rid of these, so the paragraphs are formatted correctly?
[10:34] <Irreducibilis> I wonder what the Ubuntu Z series will be named.... maybe Ubuntu Zenithic Zebra?
[10:35] <arinomi> !gutsy
[10:35] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:35] <Irreducibilis> What will happen when you finally reach Z?
[10:36] <cjae_> Irreducibilis, think it will make it that far and if so what comes after the alphabet?
[10:36] <heguru> Julz: ok it seems like your card uses atheros chipset
[10:36] <Irreducibilis> Perhaps ze greek
[10:36] <Daverocks> GreyWolfe: i'm back, is everything going alright?
[10:36] <Irreducibilis> Ubuntu Alpha-ness
[10:36] <Woet> sshfs says "the attempt to login has failed", while i am 100% sure that the login details are ok
[10:36] <Woet> i have the host, username and password
[10:36] <Woet> how would i mount it?
[10:37] <Julz> heguru: so what do i do? sorry im a total newbie here
[10:37] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can compose my screen
[10:37] <neildarlow> does anyone have any experience of the quality of .debs on getdeb.net? i was thinking of getting latest versions of kino and devede from there
[10:37] <heguru> Julz: well atheros is not a very good wireless card for linux, but people have it working
[10:38] <MoNsTeR> or will XGL and BERYL take care of that
[10:38] <heguru> Julz: i am just trying to find out if your card needs ndiswrapper or atheros native driver
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> I wonder...
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> Is there significant additions to the new slight version increses such as from 7.04 to 7.10?
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> Or would it be better to wait for something like 7.04 to 7.50?
[10:38] <Daverocks> heguru: actually atheros is very well supported on linux (madwifi etc)
[10:39] <Irreducibilis> !significant
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about significant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Julz> heguru: thanks. it worked on live cd with the drivers installed for windows, so perhaps i can use that ndsrppr thing?
[10:39] <carlinux> bonjour
[10:39] <neildarlow> Irreducibilis: don't you mean 7.10, 8.04 or 8.10?
[10:40] <carlinux> or hellp
[10:40] <carlinux> hello
[10:40] <stefg> Irreducibilis: the version numbers indicate the release date. 7.04 -> April 2007, 7.10 -> October 2007 . so you can't tell how 'different' releases are by their version numbers
[10:40] <cjae_> ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link
[10:40] <carlinux> can someone help me for something please
[10:40] <heguru> Julz: how do you know it used the drivers installed for windows?
[10:40] <neildarlow> cjae_: have you configured thunderbird as default in preferred applications?
[10:41] <cjae_> neildarlow, yes
[10:41] <Woet> sshfs says "the attempt to login has failed", while i am 100% sure that the login details are ok
[10:41] <christopher_> i just thought of something cool why cant the desktops have tabs at the top of the screen much like surfing the internet has now?
[10:41] <stefg> !ask | carlinux
[10:41] <Woet> :(
[10:41] <ubotu> carlinux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:41] <Julz> i assumed. the windows machine had the drivers installed. but this other linux one doesnt and it wont work, the only difference is the presence of the drivers...
[10:41] <christopher_> that would be very intuitive
[10:41] <n2diy> Irreducibilis: 7.50 never exsisted, and if it did it is history, that would have been released in May of 2007, but it would have been 7.05. The first number indicates the year of release, and the second the month.
[10:41] <cjae_> neildarlow, and uninstalled effieny
[10:41] <Irreducibilis> Ahhh....
[10:41] <heguru> Julz: did you go to restricted driver manager?
[10:41] <cjae_> or however you spell it
[10:42] <heguru> Julz: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[10:42] <Irreducibilis> I had no clue
[10:42] <cjae_> i mean evolution neildarlow
[10:42] <christopher_> have the menu only have a button and task list be hidden away and a button combo to show it
[10:42] <it-linux> what's up carlinux?
[10:42] <cjae_> cause thats what was opening with ff before when I did that
[10:42] <arinomi>  Is it possible to upgrade from Ubuntu Feisty to the testing version of Gutsy without having to reinstall and format?
[10:42] <it-linux> Hi Ubotu!!
[10:42] <n2diy> Irreducibilis: good! Your teachable! :)
[10:43] <carlinux> !ask | I need help, cause i'm using feisty 7.04 64bits on a 2.6.20-16-lowlentcy kernel and I install nvidia's drivers by using envy and there's a problem with tty
[10:43] <ubotu> I need help, cause i'm using feisty 7.04 64bits on a 2.6.20-16-lowlentcy kernel and I install nvidia's drivers by using envy and there's a problem with tty: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <Irreducibilis> Is there a way to like turn off the "UAC" in ubuntu?
[10:43] <Irreducibilis> Where it keeps asking for the admin password to change things?
[10:43] <Julz> heguru: it says i dont need any restricted drivers
[10:43] <Irreducibilis> Its comparable to vista's UAC, no offence
[10:43] <stefg> !envy | carlinux
[10:43] <ubotu> carlinux: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:43] <neildarlow> cjae_: clicking a mailto: link in firefox starts thunderbird's compose window for me
[10:44] <cjae_> neildarlow, how about send link under file
[10:44] <n2diy> Irreducibilis: No, it is there to protect the computer, from you. :)
[10:44] <carlinux> ok when i do ctrl+alt+f2 it tells me user not known to the undelying module
[10:44] <stefg> arinomi: in theory yes, in practice you'll encounter difficulties, because not all transitional packages are built yet
[10:44] <Irreducibilis> n2diy: XP will let me be more "dev-like" then... it lets me do whatever
[10:44] <Irreducibilis> especially when one is knowledgeable enough to know what he is doing...
[10:44] <neildarlow> cjae_: yes, that does it too
[10:45] <carlinux> i cant log on tty
[10:45] <n2diy> Irreducibilis: Ok, I don't know, I've been Windows Free since 95.
[10:45] <cjae_> neildarlow, ok thanks
[10:45] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"
[10:45] <Guest15726> !nohup
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nohup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <heguru> Julz: just one little problem before I can tell you what card to use. The surecom card you have comes with two different chipsets under the same model name!
[10:46] <carlinux> could someone give me a hint pls
[10:46] <locke> meh
[10:46] <locke> wtf
[10:46] <n2diy> Irreducibilis: Err, correction, the last version Of Windows I've used was 95, it survived until 2001.
[10:46] <heguru> Julz: can you check by booting the liveCD what driver is being used?
[10:47] <heguru> Julz: if you can boot into LiveCD, do that and then paste the output of command lsmod to pastebin
[10:47] <ssn> hi
[10:47] <Julz> heguru: sure. so i do it on a)the linux machine that wont recognise the card, or b) the windows machine with live cd that recognised it?
[10:48] <heguru> Julz: on the machine that recognized the card (windows machine with livecd)
[10:48] <Guest15726> does it possible to run "nohup" command without creating the nohup.out file ?
[10:48] <ssn> how do i change permissions of files on an external drive?
[10:48] <Julz> heguru: ok doing it now
[10:48] <ssn> because now, the belong to me:root
[10:48] <locke> meh?
[10:48] <locke> what?
[10:49] <ssn> i can delete them, but i am unable to change the ownership to me:me or give the group read permissions
[10:49] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"
[10:49] <stefg> Guest15726: read about i/o redirection http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[10:49] <n2diy> Guest15726: nohup > null?
[10:49] <locke> hmm this is way later
[10:49] <ssn> can someone plz help me?
[10:50] <pabloz> hello all
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: what format have you got on the external drive?
[10:50] <carlinux> !ask | when i run ps -A | grep tty , only tty7 is running, how do i can i get tty1-6 running ?
[10:50] <ubotu> when i run ps -A | grep tty , only tty7 is running, how do i can i get tty1-6 running ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:50] <ssn> fat32
[10:50] <damianl> i have drives that arent mounted in /media how do i add them to "computer"
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: fat32 doesn't support permissions and ownership
[10:50] <locke> lame
[10:50] <locke> geeky quesition
[10:50] <ssn> howlingmadhowie: so why cant mpd access the mp3 files on the drive?
[10:50] <locke> i wouldnt even ask tat of anyting bu computer
[10:51] <bpssoft> Does Ubuntu work on ASUS R2H Tablet?
[10:51] <pabloz> Is somebody from poland ?
[10:51] <darkchr0n0s> damianl : use Applications --> System Tools --> NTFS configuration tools
[10:51] <Guest15726> n2diy: i want to use the nohup command without making output file does it possible ?
[10:51] <locke> GAH
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: this means the files are owned by whoever mounted it (probably root). however, as the default user, you should be able to do whatever you want with them.
[10:51] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"
[10:51] <locke> i lost connection to freenode
[10:51] <locke> er
[10:51] <locke> undernet i mea
[10:52] <n2diy> Guest15726: nohup > null?  Null is a nonexsistent file.
[10:52] <Bieleke> hi guys
[10:52] <bpssoft> hi
[10:52] <damianl> darkchr0n0s um what package i dont have it and btw isnt that something to do with ntfs filesystem?
[10:52] <Bieleke> my ubuntu gutsy server beta does not recognizes my network card
[10:52] <ssn> howlingmadhowie: thats right, but mpd cares about who owns the files
[10:52] <Bieleke> lspci lists it as ADMTek NC 100
[10:52] <it-linux> carlinux | could you tell me exactly what are you going to do?
[10:52] <stefg> !gutsy | Bieleke
[10:52] <ubotu> Bieleke: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <ssn> when i try to update the mpd database, the files arent imported because of the permissions
[10:53] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: well that's rather silly of mpd. it's a pretty standard use case.
[10:53] <stefg> Bieleke: prolly it just went from eth0 to eth1
[10:53] <Bieleke> i contifured interfaces, but networking restart can't find the device
[10:53] <Guest15726> n2diy: yes
[10:53] <zanner> hello
[10:53] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: you can try unmounting the drive and then reading about the mount command and how you can force ownership
[10:53] <darkchr0n0s> damianl , you want to mount ntfs drives ... rite ?
[10:53] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login has failed"
[10:53] <cjae_> ok how do I make ff use thunderbird to send a web link from file -> send link
[10:54] <n2diy> Guest15726: nohup > so send the data to null, which doesn't exsist, and it goes away.
[10:54] <cjae_> it is not working on my xubuntu system so I don't know if anyone can help me in here?
[10:54] <Julz> heguru: i have it, whats the addy for the pastebin?
[10:54] <Guest15726> n2diy: so what command should i type ? "nohup ______" ?
[10:54] <heguru> Julz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:54] <carlinux> on ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 it shows me user not known to the underlying module
[10:55] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login failed"
[10:55] <Bieleke> stefg there is no eth0 nor eth1 in devices
[10:55] <stefg> Bieleke: #ubuntu+1 m no gutsy support here
[10:55] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: in particular the mount option "user" should interest you here
[10:55] <locke> wtf
[10:55] <locke> cmon
[10:55] <n2diy> Guest15726: I don't know, that would be a scripting, or bash question, sorry I don't know your answer.
[10:55] <carlinux> when i run recovery it works
[10:56] <damianl> darkchr0n0s lol no, i have drives mounted but because there not mounted in /media they arent recognised by gnome and dont show up in "computer"
[10:56] <Woet> When i browse to /mtn/remote with terminal, it shows up fine. When i go there with ubuntu, it gives error "The attempt to login failed"
[10:57] <sai> ;
[10:57] <Woet> I mounted it with sshfs
[10:57] <howlingmadhowie> ssn: mount options for fat allow also uid=<uid number> and gid=<gid number>. these could solve the problem :)
[10:57] <darkchr0n0s> damianl you need to add them to fstab
[10:57] <stefg> Woet: you have to rephrase your question to make it comprehnedable. repeating doesn't help
[10:57] <n2diy> Woet: Try /mtn/media? Tho I think it should be mnt/media?
[10:58] <Woet> Well i changed it to /home/mounted now
[10:58] <Woet> Going to it with cd (terminal) works fine
[10:58] <darkchr0n0s> damianl : you need to add the hard drives to /etc/fstab, next reboot they wil show up
[10:58] <it-linux> OK carlinux, I think I know, you want to run without xserver right?
[10:58] <Woet> Using ubuntu to reach it gives errror "the attempt to log in failed"
[10:58] <carlinux> no
[10:58] <carlinux> i want to run with X
[10:58] <carlinux> but i want my tty back
[10:59] <Innomen> hi guys, i'm back
[10:59] <it-linux> carlinux | so? What did you do?
[10:59] <Julz> heguru: the url is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39353
[10:59] <damianl> they are fstab is automounting them. its to do with that gnome service that autodetects and mounts drives, cant remember the name
[10:59] <Innomen> now when it boots it hangs at "bootguard" ubuntu 7.04
[10:59] <carlinux> i installed a new kernel 2.6.20-16-lowlatency and the new nvidia driver then i lost my tty
[10:59] <damianl> anyone know the name of it
[11:00] <n2diy> damianl: init.d?
[11:00] <it-linux> carlinux | when I press ctrl+alt+f1 to f6, there's a terminal command
[11:00] <Woet> When i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs
[11:00] <carlinux> it is supposed to be
[11:00] <n2diy> it-linux: good!
[11:00] <damianl> no, its a 3 letter name i think
[11:00] <heguru> Julz: this is from the LiveCD where the card is working?
[11:00] <carlinux> but i cant login
[11:01] <Julz> heguru" yep
[11:01] <carlinux> it tells me user not known to the underlying module
[11:01] <overclucker> carlinux, did you compile the kernel yourself?
[11:01] <carlinux> no
[11:01] <Innomen> rephrase of problem: I'm installed ubuntu 7.04, it installed fine, but when it tries to boot off the drive instead of the cd it hangs and says "bootguard" with a blinking cursor
[11:01] <pabloz> woet: try  chmod a+rwx /home/mounted
[11:01] <carlinux> but nvidia recompiled it
[11:01] <carlinux> to make it compatible
[11:01] <heguru> Julz: ok rt2500
[11:01] <heguru> Julz: thats your module :)
[11:01] <overclucker> carlinux, well whover did didn't add it to config
[11:02] <ferronica> Best CD label printing application available for ubuntu 7.04 GNOME?
[11:02] <heguru> Julz: on the linux where you want the card to work
[11:02] <Woet> Pabloz: still the same error
[11:02] <heguru> Julz: just type: sudo modprobe -v rt2500
[11:02] <carlinux> what ? sorry i'm french
[11:02] <Innomen> a google of bootguard hang ubuntu only gave one result
[11:02] <stefg> Innomen: could it be that your bios prevented a proper grub-install? some bios's have 'antivirus' feature which lock the mbr, so it can't be written to it
[11:02] <pabloz> chown root.root /home/mounted
[11:02] <geoaxis> any one running eclipse here
[11:02] <overclucker> carlinux, i wasn't aware that nvidia did that
[11:02] <pabloz> woet:  chown root.root /home/mounted
[11:03] <Theory_> Downloaded Realplayer for linux. Its a .bin file what do you do with a .bin file to get it installed?
[11:03] <it-linux> carlinux | When you restart, do you have a choice on the previous kernel ?
[11:03] <Innomen> hmmm, i'm not sure, i'm running a del gx260, i'll boot into the bios and see if something looks like that
[11:03] <darkchr0n0s> Theory_ ./filename
[11:03] <darkchr0n0s> Theory_ ./filename.bin
[11:03] <damianl> who here uses "fruityloops"
[11:03] <Woet> pabloz: still the same
[11:03] <Innomen> my roomates uses fruityloops
[11:03] <pabloz> theory chmod a+rwx *.bin
[11:03] <Irreducibilis> fruityloops?!
[11:03] <Innomen> its a music app
[11:03] <Innomen> like mtv music generator
[11:04] <Irreducibilis> How odd...
[11:04] <carlinux> i uninstall every kernels and uninstall nvidia drivers and i reinstall 2.6.20-16-generic kernel and it's the same problem
[11:04] <Theory_> darkchr0n0s, I get "permission denied" even while running as root.
[11:04] <Innomen> its crazy
[11:04] <damianl> it runs %90-%100 in wine now  im so impressed
[11:04] <carlinux> yes i can see other kernels
[11:04] <Woet> im on user "wouter" in ubuntu pabloz, does that make a difference?
[11:04] <darkchr0n0s> Theory_ use this command chmod +x filename.bin
[11:04] <carlinux> i can boot on them but i cant load Xserver
[11:04] <insomninja> I want to take a full backup of my hdd, including my windows rescue partition is dd if=/dev/myhdd of=/media/external/myhdd.iso a good idea?
[11:04] <pabloz> woet
[11:05] <Theory_> Okay thanks its working now.
[11:05] <Innomen> something in here says "PXE BIS default policy" accept/deny
[11:05] <pabloz> wiet : yes
[11:05] <carlinux> cause of incompatibility of nvidia drivers
[11:05] <damianl> thats an impressive piece of software
[11:05] <Innomen> any idea what that means in human speak?
[11:05] <Woet> what should i do in stead then pabloz ?
[11:05] <pabloz> woet: You have to change the permisions for user wouter
[11:05] <Julz> heguru: ok, i did that, it asked for password, i pressed enter and nothing happened, so i tpyed it again and it put out a line but notjing new has happened.
[11:05] <Woet> How?
[11:05] <ferronica> Best CD label printing application available for ubuntu 7.04 GNOME?
[11:06] <damianl> ferronica nerolinux?
[11:06] <pabloz> edit /etc/passwd
[11:06] <Irreducibilis> lightscribe....
[11:06] <pabloz> change group
[11:06] <heguru> Julz: yes its ok, the network module should be loaded now, can you type: dmesg | tail
[11:06] <it-linux> carlinux | I've have the same problems once, you can login in the failsafe mode, then after command line type startx
[11:06] <heguru> Julz: and check the lines for error?
[11:06] <Woet> pabloz: i know ubuntu for 1 hour now, please be more clear.
[11:06] <ferronica> damianl: i think not free :(
[11:06] <darkchr0n0s> lol
[11:06] <Innomen> ok, i'm satified that its not a bios mbr protection
[11:06] <Innomen> what else could it be?
[11:07] <pabloz> woet: and my englidh is too bad
[11:07] <damianl> you could pirate it...and not feel bad
[11:07] <damianl> linux software should br free anyway
[11:07] <Theory_> darkchr0n0s, Is there a live video recorder available for linux?
[11:07] <damianl> be
[11:07] <ferronica> damianl: from where i can get it ?
[11:07] <pabloz> whoet: try...
[11:07] <darkchr0n0s> Theory_ , sorry no idea..
[11:07] <n2diy> damianl: it is free.
[11:07] <Julz> heguru: no errors
[11:07] <Theory_> ok
[11:07] <Innomen> what is an appropriate interval for repeating a request?
[11:07] <carlinux> but is there any other way to fix it ?
[11:07] <heguru> Julz: ok so your network should be working now
[11:08] <Woet> pabloz: i still dont get it
[11:08] <it-linux> carlinux | sorry with recovery mode
[11:08] <heguru> Julz: in ubuntu, on the traybar you should see a network icon
[11:08] <Woet> When i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs
[11:08] <damianl> n2diy nerolinux isnt free anymore
[11:08] <pabloz> whoet: chown wouter.wouter /home/mounted
[11:08] <Julz> heguru: yep i see it
[11:08] <carlinux> i'll try it
[11:08] <heguru> Julz: if you click at it you will see the detected networks
[11:08] <Innomen> they make paid apps for linux?
[11:08] <carlinux> thanks everyone
[11:08] <Innomen> heh i didnt know that
[11:08] <damianl> lol
[11:09] <n2diy> damianl: ah, I didn't know that. Who cares? I use ubuntu?
[11:09] <Theory_> anyone know of a video recorder for linux?
[11:09] <Amaranth> damianl: That kind of discussion is not allowed here
[11:09] <it-linux> carlinux | good luck
[11:09] <Woet> pabloz: still the same error
[11:09] <damianl>  freedom of speech
[11:09] <Innomen> i agree
[11:09] <pabloz> woet: wait
[11:09] <pabloz> I try somethinkelse
[11:10] <pepigno> mi leggete
[11:10] <Innomen> what part of "damianl: n2diy nerolinux isnt free anymore" isnt appropriate?
[11:10] <darkchr0n0s> damianl : freedom of speech has it's limitations
[11:10] <pepigno> midate una mano
[11:10] <Innomen> i assume its a statement of fact
[11:10] <Julz> heguru: you're gonna hate this, but it only had the default modem connection there...
[11:10] <Innomen> i misunderstood
[11:10] <n2diy> Innomen: ??? Who said it was inappropriate?
[11:11] <Innomen> i see
[11:11] <Innomen> he's being scolded for pointing out the white elephant
[11:11] <xeer> anyone know of a way to bind a hotkey to a joystick button?
[11:11] <damianl> its because i said "you could pirate it...and not feel bad"
[11:11] <Innomen> you see damianl you
[11:11] <Julz> heguru: it says "no network devices have been found" and "manual configuation"
[11:11] <n2diy> I'm being scolded????
[11:11] <Innomen> re not allowed ot talk about the elephant
[11:11] <Innomen> not you
[11:11] <Innomen> n2diy
[11:11] <Irreducibilis> Does anyone feel bad about pirating?
[11:11] <darkchr0n0s> you need to realize that there is no white elephant ;)
[11:12] <Innomen> i was spekaing to damianl
[11:12] <ikonia> !offtopic
[11:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:12] <darkchr0n0s> Irreducibilis they do,.. when they are caught :P
[11:12] <pabloz> woe:
[11:12] <pabloz> edit /etc/passwd
[11:12] <heguru> Julz: ok, lets try to debug this
[11:12] <heguru> Julz: type iwconfig
[11:12] <damianl> linux software should be free thats all i said
[11:12] <heguru> Julz: and see if you get any interface
[11:12] <Innomen> ikonia: my quiestion is perfectly on topic and its being ignored *shrugs*
[11:12] <Amaranth> damianl: Don't tell people to steal stuff
[11:12] <n2diy> damianl: it is free!?
[11:12] <ikonia> Innomen: whats up
[11:12] <Innomen> until i get help i'll talk about the weather :)
[11:12] <heguru> Julz: if not then do this: sudo modprobe -r rt2500
[11:13] <heguru> Julz: then: sudo modprobe rt2500
[11:13] <pabloz> woet: and change line where is user root
[11:13] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, now that i have linux, i look back at my windows days in general and feel bad
[11:13] <heguru> Julz: then run dmesg | tail
[11:13] <xeer> anyone know of a way to bind a hotkey to a joystick button?
[11:13] <damianl> anyway
[11:13] <Innomen> ubuntu hangs and says "bootguard"
[11:13] <heguru> Julz: and check the output
[11:13] <ikonia> Innomen what version of ubuntu ?
[11:13] <Innomen> i have no idea what to do
[11:13] <pabloz> 3 th field
[11:13] <Innomen> 7.04
[11:13] <damianl> Amaranth: lol
[11:13] <Irreducibilis> overclucker: I still like windows... XP that is. Vista can go in the trash.
[11:13] <pabloz> change to 0
[11:13] <Amaranth> damianl: It's not funny
[11:13] <pabloz> 4th field change to 0
[11:13] <ikonia> Innomen is this on mac hardware by any chance
[11:13] <pabloz> too
[11:13] <Woet> 'wouter:x:1000:1000:Wouter van Eekelen' should become 'wouter:x:0:1000:Wouter van Eekelen'
[11:14] <Woet> pabloz ?
[11:14] <darkchr0n0s> 4 years they spent to make vista.. the crappy OS
[11:14] <Innomen> no
[11:14] <Woet> or 0:0 ?
[11:14] <ikonia> !offtopic >darkchr0n0s
[11:14] <Innomen> dell gx260
[11:14] <darkchr0n0s> ikonia  alrught alright :P
[11:14] <pabloz> ok
[11:14] <pabloz> You traied it ?
[11:14] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, yes, it requires either a money or piracy to make it a fully functioning system though
[11:14] <ikonia> Innomen ok, the reason I wasked is because bootguard appears to show up as boot protection in the new macs (never heard of it before)
[11:14] <carlinux> it-linux: it doesnt work
[11:14] <Innomen> lovelyt
[11:15] <pabloz> and you have to pre login
[11:15] <Innomen> it apear the ubuntu installer still needs a great deal of work
[11:15] <ikonia> Innomen just reading about it
[11:15] <darkchr0n0s> ikonia : any "on demand" video streaming servers for a linux box ?
[11:15] <Woet> I cant change it pabloz: 'You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file'
[11:15] <Julz> heguru: no errors
[11:15] <Innomen> perhaps i should wait yet another version
[11:15] <overclucker> imissdos
[11:15] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s there are a few broadcast software packages in the repo, can't remember the names
[11:15] <pabloz> This changes you have to do as a root
[11:15] <heguru> Julz: what did you get when you type: dmesg | tail
[11:15] <pabloz> You must login as a root
[11:15] <Chousuke> Woet: Why do you want to make yourself root
[11:15] <Chousuke> and no you don't need to login as root
[11:16] <damianl> Amaranth i laughed
[11:16] <Woet> When i go to /home/mounted with 'cd home/mounted' and then with 'ls' it shows all files. When i go to /home/mounted with ubuntu it gives error "The attempt to log in failed". I mounted it with sshfs
[11:16] <Woet> thats why.
[11:16] <heguru> Julz: i know you don't have internet on that machine, but if you can get some lines :)
[11:16] <carlinux> it-linux: any other idea ?
[11:16] <Chousuke> Woet: eh?
[11:16] <Woet> And i would like to solve it
[11:17] <Chousuke> Woet: well making yourself root is definitely not the way to do it
[11:17] <ikonia> Innomen it looks like boot guard is a setting in the bios, although I'm no certain as I've never heard of it before
[11:17] <Woet> I have no idea what im doing anyways, pabloz told me to change the 1000 to 0
[11:17] <pabloz> chosuke: I hear, too
[11:17] <overclucker> !offtopic
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[11:17] <ikonia> Innomen: it maybe under the heading of "virus" protection in the bios
[11:17] <Chousuke> Woet: that makes your user the superuser
[11:17] <Irreducibilis> !jabber
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[11:17] <ikonia> Chousuke: that is very unwise to do that
[11:17] <overclucker> thanks ubotu i forgot the name of the channel
[11:17] <overclucker> hehe
[11:17] <Innomen> no, the bios is very simple on the dell, there isw no mention of virus anywhere under the security tab or anywhere else
[11:17] <Woet> i just want to browse my mounted folder
[11:17] <Chousuke> ikonia: that's what I've been saying :P
[11:18] <ikonia> Innomen just quoting what I'm reading
[11:18] <ikonia> Chousuke who told him to change his uid ?
[11:18] <Innomen> i know
[11:18] <Innomen> i appreciate it, i'm just responding
[11:18] <damianl> sudo format c:\
[11:18] <it-linux> carlinux | Ok, are you still in recovery mode?
[11:18] <Chousuke> ikonia: pabloz apparently
[11:18] <carlinux> no
[11:18] <carlinux> i tried it
[11:18] <ikonia> !offtopic >damianl
[11:18] <Chousuke> Woet: anyway, you need to fix the mount problem some other way
[11:18] <pabloz> ikonia:   :-/
[11:18] <it-linux> carlinux | please use it again
[11:18] <Chousuke> Woet: please tell in detail what you're trying to mount and where and how
[11:19] <Julz> heguru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39354/
[11:19] <Innomen> so no one here has ever had a fresh installed hang with only "bootguard" as a given reason?
[11:19] <carlinux> when i do ctrl+alt+f2 it goes to tty
[11:19] <ikonia> Innomen at what point do you see bootguard, first thing on the screen or do you get the grub menu
[11:19] <carlinux> but i cant do anything cause there is a message " user not known to the underlying module "
[11:19] <Innomen> prior to grub menu
[11:19] <n2diy> carlinux: good, that is what it should do.
[11:19] <it-linux> carlinux | don't type startx but type this : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:19] <ikonia> Innomen ok, so it looks like something has not allowed you to modify the boot sector
[11:19] <Innomen> i was getting a menu before but it couldent find the paritions so i reinstalled
[11:20] <carlinux> nothing will happen ?
[11:20] <Woet> I mounted a ssh server (my webserver) to ubuntu, i mounted it to /home/dutchpancakes. When i go there via terminal with 'cd /home/dutchpancakes' and then 'ls' shows up fine. But when i go there via ubuntu (Places -> Computer -> FIlesystem -> Home -> Dutchpancakes) it gives error "The attempt to login in failed".
[11:20] <ikonia> Innomen you can try booting from the live cd and re-installing grub with the instructions ubotu will send you in a minute
[11:20] <Woet> I used sshfs
[11:20] <ikonia> !grub > Innomen
[11:20] <it-linux> carlinux | sorry /etc/X11
[11:20] <Innomen> oky
[11:20] <Innomen> will try brb
[11:20] <Chousuke> Woet: what command did you use to mount it with sshfs?
[11:20] <ikonia> Woet because its trying to auth via ssh
[11:20] <it-linux> carlinux | you find xorg.conf
[11:20] <carlinux> yes
[11:20] <ikonia> Woet nautilus can't do that
[11:21] <Woet> how do i just browse my ssh server then?
[11:21] <Chousuke> Woet: that sounds like you didn't specify your password anywhere, or set up public key authentication
[11:21] <n2diy> Woet: log in from a terminal
[11:21] <ikonia> Woet mounting it on /home is a bad idea unless you have proper centralised home dir sharing setup
[11:21] <it-linux> carlinux | if there's another xorg.conf back-up or anything?
[11:21] <carlinux> yes
[11:21] <Woet> I did login via terminal (on the ssh server) n2diy
[11:22] <ikonia> Woet things like nis and ldap are used for for this sort of thing
[11:22] <it-linux> carlinux | could you write it?
[11:22] <Woet> Chousuke: i did 'sshfs root@mydomain.nl:/home /home/dutchpancakes'
[11:22] <carlinux> yes
[11:22] <ikonia> Woet: sshfs is user based auth, not system based
[11:22] <Woet> then i needed to enter my root's password, so i did
[11:22] <carlinux> in wich section you think there could be an error ?
[11:22] <ikonia> Woet: that, in my opinion is an unwise setup
[11:22] <n2diy> Woet: So you can access the server via SSH, but not the files?
[11:22] <Woet> when i go do 'cd /home/dutchpancakes' and then 'ls' it shows all files
[11:23] <ikonia> Woet: I heard that
[11:23] <Woet> I can access the files via terminal, but not via Places -> Computer.
[11:23] <it-linux> carlinux | usually when nvidia driver wants to install, it make a back-up, just in case for error
[11:23] <carlinux> yes
[11:23] <ikonia> Woet: I've potentially explained that to you
[11:23] <darkchr0n0s> ikonia , what about system under ssfs.. i mean if about 50 people sshfs to same PC, what is the negative impact on the PC and network ?
[11:23] <Woet> n2diy is asking things too ikonia
[11:23] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s wow - not sure how that would exxect it under sshfs,
[11:23] <Chousuke> darkchr0n0s: well, it may be a strain on the server
[11:23] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s effect it that should read
[11:24] <Woet> I have a server, and i want all the files listed on my desktop like its on my harddisk.
[11:24] <Woet> :)
[11:24] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s the initial auth is the only real issue, but one your start "reading" from the file system it will start hitting the network quite hard
[11:24] <it-linux> carlinux | could you write it here? example : xorg.conf  xorg-back-up.conf...please, I try to configure your xserver setting
[11:24] <Chousuke> Woet: set up NFS on your server instead :P
[11:24] <pabloz> woet: ntfs
[11:24] <pabloz> woet: samba
[11:24] <it-linux> carlinux | in /etc/X11 folder...
[11:24] <Woet> and i cannot alter the server in any ways
[11:24] <darkchr0n0s> ikonia , and what about idle sshfs connections ?.. do they take resources on server or netwrok ?
[11:25] <Chousuke> why not? you have root in there.
[11:25] <pabloz> woet : ntfs is simple and fasty
[11:25] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s pretty much not
[11:25] <Chousuke> pabloz: I'm sure you mean NFS
[11:25] <it-linux> carlinux??
[11:25] <carlinux> you want an output output of my xorg.conf ?
[11:25] <darkchr0n0s> ikonia , hmm.. thanks
[11:25] <Woet> oh, yes i can Chousuke
[11:25] <Woet> I can access it via putty
[11:25] <heguru> Julz: http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/linux/category/wireless/
[11:25] <ikonia> NFS/samba is not wise over the internet
[11:25] <pabloz> sorry nfs
[11:25] <heguru> Julz: just read the link
[11:25] <Woet> but its a live server with 100 customers, so i cant do very dangerous stuff
[11:25] <ikonia> do'nt recommend things unless you know the sitaution
[11:25] <darkchr0n0s> Woet what exactly u want ?
[11:25] <it-linux> carlinux | no, just type thye content of /etc/X11...
[11:25] <Woet> I have a server, and i want all the files listed on my desktop like its on my harddisk.
[11:25] <carlinux> ha ok
[11:25] <russ_> hello, am wanting to download Blender, and as a new ubuntu user, i am unsure which version i should be downloading.  Any suggestions?  Even if there is a better program available for noobs?
[11:26] <pabloz> ikonia samba/nfs as tunneling
[11:26] <Chousuke> Woet: I see.
[11:26] <ikonia> Woet then try changing the mount location from /home
[11:26] <ikonia> pabloz thats a massive overhead,
[11:26] <Woet> Where to mount it ikonia?
[11:26] <carlinux> i have 27 xorg.conf backup
[11:26] <darkchr0n0s> 27!!
[11:26] <ikonia> Woet anywhere that won't cause problems for your local desktop
[11:27] <it-linux> carlinux | 27??? there's a lot of it?
[11:27] <Woet> oh wait
[11:27] <enano> Hi! How can I change the "nb_NO ISO-8859-1" to be the default character-set instead of UTF-8 in Feisty? Thanks!
[11:27] <Chousuke> Woet: it seems since you're loggin in as root to mount it via sshfs it may appear with as root's on the local machine too.
[11:27] <Woet> I would like to become a root user.
[11:27] <magnetron> russ_: use applications > add/remove and search for blender in the "all" category. check the box and hit ok, then it will be installed
[11:27] <darkchr0n0s> !root | Woet
[11:27] <ubotu> Woet: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:27] <carlinux> yes i know !
[11:27] <ikonia> Woet that is unwise
[11:27] <Innomen> same deal
[11:27] <Innomen> bootguard
[11:27] <Innomen> but what you sent me was rather vague
[11:27] <Woet> I can browse the mounted folder when im root, not when im user
[11:27] <ikonia> Innomen all the information I'm finding suggest bootguard is a "bios" thing
[11:28] <Woet> So i want to become root.
[11:28] <overclucker> enano is the locale supported? do locale -a
[11:28] <heguru> Woet: if you just want to browse files over ssh on gnome, you can use ssh:// vfs
[11:28] <magnetron> enano: you get the option to choose it when you install feisty
[11:28] <darkchr0n0s> Woet you can change permissions browse either wahy
[11:28] <carlinux> it-linux: when i compare the xorg.conf to the xorg.bak* it is similar
[11:28] <Past_Images> hey i backed up my home dir and reinstalled but when i delete my new .evolution folder and pull across my old one i don't have any emails - it's not working. is there a way to fix this to get my old emails back?
[11:28] <enano> overclucker: I don't see it in that list no ...
[11:28] <heguru> Woet: on gnome if you press Alt+F2 then type ssh://youserverusername@yourserver
[11:28] <darkchr0n0s> becoming root is not the solution... its a problem
[11:28] <Woet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39355/ see?
[11:28] <it-linux> carlinux | type this : sudo mv xorg.conf backup(choose the last one ) xorg.conf
[11:29] <Innomen> if the bios isnt letting me make mbr changes then how did i install windows?
[11:29] <carlinux> it-linux: and i can read the oldest one (the one before nvidia-config scrapped it)
[11:29] <Julz> heguru: that all makes sense but when i type ipconfig i get "no wireless extensions"
[11:29] <russ_> magnetron, it is saying that There is no matching application available
[11:29] <Woet> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39355/
[11:29] <ikonia> Woet: with respect, there is no way you should be playing around like this on a server with 100 live customers
[11:29] <heguru> Julz: are you sure both the machines are using the same type of network card?
[11:29] <it-linux> carlinux | ok, you use it
[11:29] <Chousuke> Woet: okay, that's simple
[11:29] <Innomen> why am i the only humna on the planet top have encourntered this problem?
[11:29] <Woet> well ikonia, if i cant access the server, 10 customers will go away because of the bugs i cant solve.
[11:29] <ikonia> Woet: you need to change permissions on your local hard disk /home dir
[11:29] <Innomen> do i get a cookie?
[11:30] <heguru> Julz: because based on the output of dmesg you pasted, the driver does not seem to be loadin
[11:30] <Innomen> :)
[11:30] <pabloz> when I try work as a oteruser than root I have some troubles
[11:30] <it-linux> carlinux | then you restart it
[11:30] <Woet> how to solve Chousuke?
[11:30] <enano> magnetron: yeah, but I forgot to install it back then :)
[11:30] <Chousuke> pabloz: you're using Ubuntu wrong then
[11:30] <carlinux> it-linux: ok but i tried it before
[11:30] <Chousuke> Woet: since you mounted the thing with sshfs as root, only root can use the mounted data
[11:30] <ikonia> Woet I suggest you look at http://www.ubuntu.com and invest in a support package from canonical as your asking for comercial help
[11:30] <pabloz> I always work as root
[11:30] <Chousuke> Woet: I don't think there's anything you can do about that
[11:30] <Chousuke> pabloz: that's improper
[11:31] <carlinux> it-linux: i did dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and i saw no change
[11:31] <Chousuke> pabloz: there's no need
[11:31] <Innomen> its dangerous
[11:31] <magnetron> russ_: make sure you did search for blender in the "all" category, and that you have the universe repository enabled
[11:31] <ikonia> Woet: if this is for paying customers, its clear you are not confident with what you are doing. You would benifit from a support package from canonical
[11:31] <Woet> :-/ so your saying there is not 1 solution possible?
[11:31] <Innomen> being root all the time
[11:31] <pabloz> maybe
[11:31] <magnetron> !universe | russ_
[11:31] <ubotu> russ_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:31] <jimmity> Ubuntu commercial support lawl?
[11:31] <Julz> heguru: yep, same boxes, same everything, they are the same cards
[11:31] <it-linux> carlinux | could you type xorg.conf backup before nvidia, here?
[11:31] <Chousuke> Woet: you used sudo while mounting with sshfs, right?
[11:31] <ikonia> jimmity yes, ubuntu comercial support
[11:31] <Woet> yes Chousuke
[11:31] <pabloz> but , this is comfortable
[11:31] <Woet> Do i need to mount it while not being root?
[11:31] <Chousuke> Woet: perhaps. try.
[11:31] <ikonia> Woet your not listening
[11:31] <it-linux> carlinux | not the content just the file?
[11:31] <jimmity> It's not quite redhat is it :)
[11:31] <Julz> heguru: dound i use ndiswrapper youthink?
[11:32] <carlinux> how
[11:32] <Chousuke> Woet: but don't mount them into /home/whatevr
[11:32] <Woet> i will try Chousuke
[11:32] <ikonia> Woet when you are logging in via ssh over sshfs your doing it as the root user
[11:32] <Woet> Where then?
[11:32] <heguru> Julz: well this card seems to be using rt2500 driver which is native
[11:32] <Chousuke> Woet: use /mnt/dutchpancakes or something
[11:32] <Woet> k
[11:32] <heguru> Julz: no need for ndiswrapper
[11:32] <ikonia> Woet I strongly advise you to visit canonical website and lookg for a support contract as you will break your paying customers machine very soon if you carry on like this
[11:32] <heguru> Julz: ndiswrapper is for the cases where no linux driver is available for your card
[11:33] <Innomen> woet: seriously, you can even write it off
[11:33] <Chousuke> ikonia: I don't think he will. sshfs is pretty much the same as connecting to the machine with ssh
[11:33] <carlinux> xorg.conf.20070925021839
[11:33] <ikonia> Chousuke I know this
[11:33] <geoaxis> guys need help, cant start eclipse on ubuntu fiesty
[11:33] <russ_> magnetron, ubotu, thank you for your help, got it now...
[11:33] <darkchr0n0s> sshfs works on ssh things itself..
[11:33] <carlinux> # This file was generated by dexconf
[11:33] <it-linux> carlinux | my example : the content of my /etc/X11 : app-defaults cursors default-display-manager fonts gdm rgb.txt x xinit xkb xorg.conf xserver xsession xsession.d ...
[11:33] <carlinux> not by nvidia
[11:33] <overclucker> enano you could try: localedef -i nb_NO -f ISO-8859-1 nb_NO
[11:34] <Chousuke> though I wonder why he wants to mount everyone's home directory.
[11:34] <Woet> Chousuke: fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /mnt/dutchpancakes
[11:34] <Woet> I cant mount while not being root.
[11:34] <ikonia> Chousuke I'm not interested, I'm suggesting dropping this line of support
[11:34] <darkchr0n0s> he wants to see their private files ?
[11:34] <cjae_> how do I make multiple audio signals work in ubuntu, like having two versions of vlc open with sound and why is this not enabled?
[11:34] <Julz> heguru: so the linux driver should have been installed when i installed ubuntu? perhaps its just not recognising the card? ill put in the card that works and check
[11:34] <carlinux> i have 35 files in my X11
[11:34] <carlinux> are u searching for one in particular ?
[11:34] <heguru> Julz: yes try that
[11:34] <ikonia> Woet I think you are on dangerous ground, you are not confident with what you are doing and asking random people for help on a comercial platform. Visit canonical website and negotiate a support contract rather than asking in here
[11:34] <Chousuke> Woet: that's a permissions issue on the directory.
[11:34] <enano> overclucker: it's in locale -a now
[11:35] <Chousuke> Woet: fix it
[11:35] <Woet> I will mount it to /home/wouter/dutchpancakes
[11:35] <ikt> slight issue where update manager crashed while upgrading to 7.10, is there anyway to repair the install without formatting?
[11:35] <it-linux> carlinux | yes - type which have the word xorg.conf
[11:35] <ikonia> ikt depends what has changed and how bootable it is
[11:35] <Woet> THakns CHousuke
[11:35] <Woet> it works!
[11:35] <Woet> :D
[11:35] <Woet> now i can finally get back to work, thanks.
[11:35] <Chousuke> now make sure you don't mess it up :P
[11:35] <ikonia> Woet: be aware that by changing the permissions, you have just changed the permissions on the file system on the server
[11:36] <ikt> ikonia: still works, still boots up, it's just some applications won't run, and stuff like gaim is still there etc
[11:36] <pabloz> I had to leave
[11:36] <ikonia> ikt re-do the update
[11:36] <pabloz> woet: how fixed your problem ?
[11:36] <it-linux> carlinux | coz I try to find the right xorg.conf for your system.
[11:36] <carlinux> xorg.conf_backup_200709301926 xorg.conf_backup_200709301341 xorg.conf_backup_200709301122  xorg.conf_backup_200709300844
[11:36] <Innomen> Chousuke: good karma for you :)
[11:36] <Woet> I mounted it to another directory pabloz, which i have access too.
[11:36] <carlinux> it-linux: you are searching for the oldest one ?
[11:36] <ikt> ikonia tried sudo "update-manager -c -d" but said i was up to date :s
[11:36] <Woet> Chousuke: i have been working like this for over 6 months now, and the company has been working like this for 3 years
[11:36] <Woet> Nothing went wrong.
[11:37] <ikonia> ikt oh, thats unusual
[11:37] <ikt> :(
[11:37] <it-linux> carlinux | that's ok too, write it down!
[11:37] <Chousuke> ikonia: he hasn't run chown or anything on the files, has he
[11:37] <clem_> ppl, since there seems to be no-one in the #openoffice.org channel, let me ask this here: can I get OOo in French via apt-get? I'm in xubuntu 7.04
[11:37] <carlinux> xorg.conf.20070925005604
[11:37] <Chousuke> ikonia: so why would they change? unless sshfs is exceptionally stupid.
[11:37] <ikonia> clem_ change your system local
[11:38] <ikonia> Chousuke I thought he had changed the permissions
[11:38] <it-linux> carlinux | is that all?
[11:38] <Chousuke> ikonia: nah, he just mounted it in a directory where he had a right to mount them.
[11:38] <carlinux> it-linux: wait a sec
[11:38] <magnetron> clem_: yes, install the french language in system > administration > language settings
[11:39] <Woet> is there btw any antivirus for linux, or isnt it needed?
[11:39] <Woet> ubuntu *
[11:39] <clem_> ikonia, my xubuntu is already in French, and I caught OOo via the "Add/Remove" app - is that what you meant?
[11:39] <ikonia> clem_: check magnetron's comments.
[11:39] <clem_> magnetron, thx will take a look
[11:39] <clem_> brb
[11:40] <enano> overclucker: do you also know how to set it as default?
[11:40] <magnetron> !antivirus | Woet
[11:40] <ubotu> Woet: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[11:40] <Woet> !linuxvirus | WOet
[11:40] <Woet> oh pm
[11:40] <carlinux> xorg.conf_backup_200709301926 xorg.conf_backup_200709301341 xorg.conf_backup_200709301122 xorg.conf_backup_200709300844 xorg.conf.backupxorg.conf.20070930185601 xorg.conf.20070930124858 xorg.conf.2007093012394 xorg.conf.20070930123825 xorg.conf.20070930122938 xorg.conf.20070930122721 xorg.conf.20070930111841xorg.conf.20070930081733 xorg.conf.20070930075604 xorg.conf.20070925011026 xorg.conf.20070925005604 xorg.conf
[11:40] <ikt> any repair utility?
[11:40] <Woet> im starting to love ubuntu more and more
[11:40] <ikonia> !pastebin >carlinux
[11:41] <carlinux> sorryu
[11:41] <overclucker> enano, now you need to sudo gedit /etc/profile and put a # in front of the export LANG=en_US.utf-8, saving it for later then export LANG=nb_NO.ISO-8859-1
[11:42] <Woet> How do i use google talk with GAIM?
[11:42] <ikonia> google talk is a closed protocol
[11:42] <carlinux> it-linux: i dont think xorg.conf is the problem
[11:42] <Woet> It works with pidgin ikonia.
[11:42] <ikonia> does it ?
[11:42] <Woet> Yes
[11:43] <enano> overclucker: hmm, /etc/profile doesn't contain LANG= etc. it's a totally different file
[11:43] <carlinux> it-linux: cause as you can see i tried a lot of time by changing it
[11:43] <ikonia> not sure how that works
[11:43] <heguru> Woet: GoogleTalk Voice chat doesn't work with gaim, google talk works
[11:43] <magnetron> ikonia, Woet: the text part of goolge talk is jabber compliant
[11:43] <Woet> I just want the chat part
[11:43] <ikonia> yes, but not the voice
[11:43] <Woet> But i cant configure it in gaim
[11:43] <enano> overclucker: maybe it's /etc/enviroment ?
[11:43] <magnetron> Woet: it uses the jabber prot
[11:43] <heguru> Woet: google talk is based on XMPP and is not proprietary
[11:43] <carlinux> it-linux: and perhaps it could be a runlevel problem
[11:43] <Woet> ahw ok
[11:43] <Woet> server is gmail.com
[11:43] <Woet> ?
[11:43] <overclucker> enano, lemme check
[11:43] <Woet> and resource?
[11:43] <t3318_> anyone use webcam in Ubuntu?
[11:43] <carlinux> by default it is supposed to be runlevel 3 but i'm running in runlevel 2
[11:43] <cjae_> ok I have split an avi off a win box to fit it on two cdr and now have the two halves on a ubuntu box how can I mend them?
[11:44] <magnetron> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=24073 Woet
[11:44] <it-linux> carlinux | now we focus on xorg.conf.20070925005604 and 20070925011026. Now you type : sudo mv xorg.conf.20070925005604 xorg.conf after that you fill your password.
[11:44] <cjae_> can Avidemux do this?
[11:44] <magnetron> t3318_: yes a lot of people use webcams in ubuntu
[11:44] <magnetron> !enter | cjae_
[11:44] <ubotu> cjae_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:44] <carlinux> in tty1 i can see things like normal
[11:44] <t3318_> magnetron: oh, so what IM Client you use?
[11:44] <it-linux> carlinux | how is it now?
[11:45] <carlinux> 2
[11:45] <magnetron> t3318_: i don't use a webcam, but i use ekiga for voice chat. it supports video too
[11:45] <Woet> thanks
[11:45] <magnetron> t3318_: i think amsn has some video support too
[11:45] <kst> how much empty disk space will i need for an upgrade to gutsy? i got only like 500-700mb left on my linux partition (got another /home partition with lots of free space tho), will i run into problems when updating?
[11:45] <it-linux> carlinux | have you try startx command?
[11:46] <carlinux> yes
[11:46] <t3318_> magnetron: but ekia is commercial
[11:46] <carlinux> it's logging in root session by default
[11:46] <it-linux> carlinux | so tell me the result?
[11:46] <magnetron> t3318_: ekiga is SIP compliant, and it's open source software
[11:46] <cjae_> magnetron, wont I get in trouble for not using pastebin then
[11:46] <lordofthepigs> hello, my company has just installed an 802.1x authentication on its wired network, and I need to configure xsupplicant to work with it
[11:46] <lordofthepigs>  I have it running now, but I would like to know how I can make sure that the xsupplicant deamon starts up at the same time as my system
[11:46] <lordofthepigs> and how to make it start before DHCP (since I can't get a valid IP address before having been authenticated)
[11:47] <lordofthepigs> does anybody have an idea how to do that?
[11:47] <magnetron> !enter | lordofthepigs
[11:47] <ubotu> lordofthepigs: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:47] <Innomen> when i run grub "setup (hd2,2)" all goes well except it return two non fatal errors, they are embed commands, is this more important than the app is letting on?
[11:47] <lordofthepigs> magnetron: Yeah, I'm sure people love to read a question spanning 10 lines
[11:47] <ikonia> Innomen can you paste the errors in the pastebin
[11:48] <ikonia> lordofthepigs ?
[11:48] <Innomen> no, but i'll type one out (diffreent machine)
[11:48] <ikonia> cool
[11:48] <it-linux> carlinux | where are you?
[11:48] <carlinux> ?
[11:48] <Woet> Who helped me switch to ubuntu again?
[11:48] <slackern> lordofthepigs: maybe this page can help you http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-manage-services-with-update-rc.d
[11:48] <ikonia> Woet: does it matter ?
[11:48] <magnetron> lordofthepigs: it's easier to read a question that spans 10 lines then one that spans 10 messages
[11:49] <Woet> ikonia, im just wondering
[11:49] <Woet> i thought it was something with pinguin, but i cant find him
[11:49] <it-linux> carlinux | is it working? Or there's still a problem?
[11:49] <Innomen> running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd2,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[11:49] <carlinux> there is still the same problem
[11:49] <ikonia> Innomen under it did, you see one that succeded
[11:49] <Innomen> does that twicfe
[11:49] <ikonia> ahhh thats not great then
[11:49] <ikonia> you need one to succedd
[11:49] <Innomen> yes
[11:50] <Innomen> the one at the bottom worked
[11:50] <ikonia> ok, mega
[11:50] <overclucker> enano, /etc/environment looks promising
[11:50] <it-linux> carlinux | what is the error ?
[11:50] <carlinux> when i press ctrl+alt+f2-6 i cant do anything cause it says " user not known to the underlying module"
[11:50] <enano> overclucker: I changed it now, and I need to restartX for it to work?
[11:50] <cjae_> anyone know how to use avidemux to join to avi's
[11:51] <Julz> heguru: umm, i know why it wasnt working... its cos im a fool lol, the card wasnt in the motherboard properly! it had power but some connections musnt have beeen working... thanks so much for all your help, i really appreciate it
[11:51] <Innomen> thetutorial page you sent me to wanted me to hit tab to autocomplete commands and such it did not behave at all like suggested, so i didnt it by hand heheh
[11:51] <Innomen> did it*
[11:51] <heguru> Julz: welcome :)
[11:51] <ikonia> Innomen yeah, a few people have complained about auto complete, not sure why it doesn't work for everyone
[11:51] <ikonia> its on my list of things to sort out/check out
[11:51] <carlinux> it-linux: if the user is not known by the module "tty" i think it's because of /dev/tty* properties
[11:51] <Innomen> i got a menu to happen before
[11:52] <lordofthepigs> slackern: Thanks for that, but will that help making sure that xsupplicant has finished the authentication before dhclient starts configuring eth0?
[11:52] <carlinux> the group of tty2 (by example) is root
[11:52] <Julz> heguru: haha thanks, well im off now to get the hang of things, catchya :)
[11:52] <carlinux> not tty as usual
[11:52] <overclucker> enano, probably need to reboot, locale affects more than just x
[11:52] <carlinux> carlinux@carlinux:~$ ps -A | grep tty
[11:52] <carlinux>  6100 tty7     00:01:40 Xorg
[11:52] <carlinux> carlinux@carlinux:~$
[11:52] <Innomen> if i cant fix this i'm gunna give up on ubuntu till its mature enough to really compete with microsloth, i mean ti dosent even have a device manager yet :/
[11:53] <Innomen> i'll use it on my laptop because it dosent HAVE to work
[11:53] <it-linux> carlinux | on tty, we focus on it first, is startx can show up? like GUI with icon there?
[11:53] <carlinux> there's supposed to be tty 1-6 running
[11:53] <ikonia> Innomen it is mature, if you have a bios thing blocking it, thats the problem
[11:53] <overclucker> enano, but have livecd ready, incase it doesn't take
[11:53] <Innomen> no it isnt
[11:53] <Innomen> for the 5th time
[11:53] <ikonia> Innomen however if your not confident with ubuntu, don't use it
[11:53] <carlinux> yes
[11:53] <Innomen> i had a grub boot menu
[11:53] <Innomen> like 2 hours ago
[11:53] <ikonia> Innomen yes, I read that
[11:53] <Innomen> i just haddent formatted the paritions right and it couldent find them
[11:53] <carlinux> when i load the normal kernel, everything boot as normal
[11:54] <slackern> lordofthepigs: Im not sure what options are available to it really, mostly paste the link to give you a little extra info along the way :), haven't done much to any service in years myself
[11:54] <carlinux> i can log in
[11:54] <heguru> Innomen: and how is existence of a device manager a sign of maturity of an OS again? besides that, there is a device manager in ubuntu
[11:54] <Innomen> no there isnt
[11:54] <it-linux> carlinux | still in X , can you look how manyworkspace there?
[11:54] <ikonia> Innomen there is
[11:54] <carlinux> yes
[11:54] <Innomen> i should not have to edit txt files to disable a touch mouse
[11:54] <carlinux> i can run anything
[11:54] <magnetron> Innomen: ubuntu can be better than windows without being like windows
[11:54] <Innomen> ok you link me to a screen shot of it in action
[11:54] <ikonia> Innomen if you are not happy with ubuntu, don't use it
[11:55] <carlinux> i can run an Xsession as usual while loading the normal kernel
[11:55] <Innomen> ubuntu is not just another flavor of linux, its stated goal is to compete with the normal user market
[11:55] <Innomen> "linux for humans"
[11:55] <carlinux> gdm is running as normal
[11:55] <ikonia> Innomen whichi t does very well
[11:55] <magnetron> Innomen: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[11:55] <Innomen> without a gui device manager?
[11:55] <ikonia> Innomen it does have one
[11:56] <Innomen> magnetron: and water is wety, thanks for the update
[11:56] <heguru> Innomen: System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information
[11:56] <it-linux> carlinux | well it seem normal to me, but what are you going to do with another X desktop?
[11:56] <magnetron> Innomen: the title is not the article... read it, it does a good comparison
[11:56] <Innomen> another obvious thing "just because we dont agree does not mean i'm ignorant."
[11:57] <it-linux> carlinux | what version of Ubuntu have you use?
[11:57] <Innomen> i've read it before
[11:57] <carlinux> it-linux:7.04
[11:57] <ikonia>  no one said you where ignorant
[11:57] <darkchr0n0s> linux cannot be for humans :P
[11:57] <cjae_> Innomen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[11:57] <carlinux> it-linux:feisty fawn 7.04
[11:57] <darkchr0n0s> !away
[11:57] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:57] <carlinux> 64bits
[11:57] <Innomen> asking for a device manager is not unfair
[11:57] <Innomen> dont take it personally
[11:57] <ikonia> Innomen no-one is
[11:57] <carlinux> it-linux: i can run anything as normal
[11:57] <magnetron> Innomen: a good quote: "As a simple example, consider driver upgrades: one typically upgrades a hardware driver on Windows by going to the manufacturer's website and downloading the new driver; whereas in Linux you upgrade the kernel."
[11:57] <Innomen> BS
[11:57] <carlinux> it-linux: exept the tty
[11:58] <ikonia> Innomen BS ?
[11:58] <carlinux> in x session
[11:58] <Innomen> no one said anything too me when i asked for help but you
[11:58] <ikonia> Innomen is that a problem /
[11:58] <tarelerulz> I am really lost . I don't have any sound when I put my headset into the back of my computer . It is normal to have audio in the back of computer right.
[11:58] <ikonia> Innomen you askeed for help, I responded ? is that a bad thing ?
[11:58] <Innomen> i rag on ubuntu being an infant a little bit and now i'm in the middle of a 5 person conversation
[11:58] <slackern> Innomen: I guess everyone actually wants to be able to do it the GUI way, it just hasn't come that far for all kinds of devices yet, in 7.10 there is a failsafe GUI for graphics atleast, and same for setting graphics cards and monitors and their options, so it's going in the right direction., it just takes a while to get there :)
[11:58] <ikonia> Innomen people are contributing to the conversation, its a public room
[11:58] <Innomen> slack: sweet
[11:59] <Innomen> not at all surpsieing
[11:59] <ikonia> no-one is "ragging" on you
[11:59] <carlinux> it-linux: when u press alt+ctrl+f2, u switch in dos mode and it ask u to log in to use the console
[11:59] <Innomen> and that hardware info list is juyst that an info list
[11:59] <it-linux> carlinux | now I see the problem, I use 32 bits, but you have 64 bits, what type of proccessor you use?
[11:59] <Innomen> i cant even disbale a device via that
[11:59] <carlinux> it-linux: amd64
[11:59] <Innomen> disable
[11:59] <ikonia> Innomen: perhaps we should drop this debate as its off tpic and get back to support
[11:59] <Innomen> sweet
[11:59] <Innomen> back to bootgaurd
[11:59] <carlinux> it-linux: i'm not sure u understand what i mean
[11:59] <tarelerulz> I had friend who installed all the stuff. I read the manual and it talk about hook the sound up for front ,but there are no sound things in from other then dvd drive
[11:59] <Innomen> that would be part of it
[11:59] <magnetron> Innomen: the drivers are in the kernel in linux. you have to accept that windows and linux are different.
[11:59] <Innomen> installation should be THE priority
[11:59] <Innomen> its the first impression
[12:00] <Innomen> if installation is crap it wont matter what the rest of the os is like to the vast majority of potential users
[12:00] <carlinux> it-linux: when u are logged in gnome and u press alt+ctrl+f2, what's happenning?
[12:00] <ikonia> Innomen shall we look at trying to fix this
[12:00] <Innomen> and its not the bios, the dell gx260 does not have a virus protection mbr protection option
[12:00] <magnetron> Innomen: please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for discussing this. this channel are for support questions, please
[12:00] <Innomen> so, next idea please
[12:00] <carlinux> it-linux u can log in a console
[12:01] <ikonia> Innomen can you spell out your disk layout to me, how many disks, how many OS's, how many partitions
[12:01] <carlinux> it-linux: be me i cant
[12:01] <Innomen> sure
[12:01] <Innomen> 3 physical drives, two 300 encrypted that we are not messing with
[12:01] <carlinux> it-linux: do u know what i mean ??
[12:02] <tarelerulz> The mother board has those plugs coming out the back.  don't have to do something to make a mouther board make sound come out the back do you
[12:02] <ikonia> Innomen ok - do you have multiple Os's
[12:02] <Innomen> 1 140 gb ata that has 3 partitions on it, 1 ubuntu, 1 win xp home, 1 swap.
[12:02] <ikonia> ok
[12:02] <ikonia> paerfect
[12:02] <clem_> hello again
[12:02] <Innomen> yes, winxp first, the i installed ubuntu into the free space
[12:02] <magnetron> clem_: hello
[12:02] <it-linux> carlinux | yes, when you press ctrl+alt+f1-6 : it's command line and you have to enter your user name and password, then you can login. And in the previous I ask you, what are you going to do?
[12:02] <ikonia> Innomen which disk is the one with ubuntu
[12:02] <Innomen> the 140
[12:02] <ikonia> Innomen I assume the 3rd one
[12:02] <clem_> hi magnetron
[12:02] <Innomen> like i saqid the 300s are storage and backup
[12:03] <ikonia> ok - but which one is the 140
[12:03] <Innomen> i'm not sure what order they are in
[12:03] <clem_> I've another (general) question
[12:03] <ikonia> ok
[12:03] <Innomen> the 300s are not primary
[12:03] <it-linux> carlinux | please don't be upsad
[12:03] <ikonia> Innomen: in the bios does it list them in order (thats normally a good guide )
[12:03] <carlinux> it-linux: sorry
[12:03] <Innomen> they show up as unformatted until decrytped so they arent in the waqy i dont think
[12:03] <clem_> when given the choice, what's best to download when I want to install something: .tar.gz, .rpm or .yum?
[12:03] <Innomen> no it dosent list them at all
[12:03] <ikonia> Innomen: no no, thats fine, there will still be a "deivce"
[12:03] <carlinux> it-lnux: the problem is when i press alt+ctrl+f1-6 i cant log in
[12:03] <ikonia> clem_ none
[12:04] <ikonia> clem_ use synaptic package manager
[12:04] <clem_> right
[12:04] <Innomen> side note: lvecd does not see the 300s
[12:04] <Innomen> livecd*
[12:04] <ikonia> Innomen ok - on the livecd which device is the 140 - sda/b/c
[12:04] <it-linux> carlinux | have you try to enter your user name and password? The same like normal login?
[12:04] <carlinux> it-lnux: while pressing alt+ctrl+f1-6, u are supposed to see the log in command line
[12:04] <clem_> even for Firefox add-ons, like the flash player?
[12:04] <Innomen> but it sees the ubuntu install and the winxp install
[12:04] <ikonia> clem_ yup
[12:04] <Innomen> hold on i'll tell ya
[12:04] <ikonia> Innomen perfect
[12:04] <clem_> ikonia, okidoki
[12:04] <clem_> many thx :)
[12:05] <carlinux> it-linux:the thing is, it doesnt ask me to log in
[12:05] <carlinux> i see a message    user not known to the underlying module
[12:05] <carlinux> but i'm supposed to see the log in request
[12:06] <Innomen> ok how do i find that out?
[12:06] <D4N`> private
[12:06] <Innomen> i'm not sure if grub is looking at the right drive
[12:06] <clem_> so now I'm curious: who uses those downloads (like in OOo's or even Firefox's site)?
[12:06] <tarelerulz> I don't think any of you  should know ,but is audio out the back of the computer normal?I can see coming out the front and nice ,but not the normal. I would not thing you would need hook something up . Just install the mother board hook up hard drives dvd player and so and make sure the speaker outs are coming out the back and that is it
[12:06] <Innomen> sdc3
[12:06] <it-linux> carlinux | yes, mine have : Ubuntu 7.04 it-linux-desktop tty6
[12:06] <Innomen> i got it
[12:06] <carlinux> ok
[12:06] <ikonia> Innomen ok - so third disk
[12:06] <Innomen> now what
[12:06] <it-linux> carlinux | it-linux-desktop login
[12:06] <ikonia> Innomen that makes sense
[12:07] <ikonia> Innomen what partition is ubuntu, the 3rd one ?
[12:07] <carlinux> it-linux: the problem is i dont see that
[12:07] <Innomen> yes
[12:07] <Innomen> third one
[12:07] <Innomen> psychic lol
[12:07] <carlinux> it-linux: it prints error
[12:07] <Innomen> winxp, extended, ;inux and then limnux solaris
[12:07] <Innomen> so says fdisk
[12:07] <it-linux> carlinux | it's becaome error before or after install nvidia driver?
[12:07] <Innomen> linux sdc3 being the ubuntu install
[12:08] <carlinux> it-linux: after
[12:08] <ikonia> Innomen ok , lets try something in grub, are you ready to type this ?
[12:08] <Innomen> yup
[12:08] <ikonia> Innomen: I'll put what you type in " " - so don't type them
[12:08] <ikonia> Innomen "sudo grub"
[12:08] <Innomen> oky
[12:08] <carlinux> it-linux: i tried to unistall nvidia's driver but it didnt fixed it
[12:08] <Woet> what app is OK to open .rar files?
[12:08] <Innomen> k
[12:08] <ikonia> Innomen: "root (hd2,2)"
[12:08] <ikonia> Innomen "setup (hd0)"
[12:08] <Innomen> i did that, and setup
[12:08] <Innomen> hmmm
[12:08] <ikonia> "quit"
[12:08] <Innomen> nm
[12:08] <Innomen> doing it
[12:09] <it-linux> carlinux | I think you have to reinstall your Ubuntu 7.04, because we have try to reconfigure xorg.conf many times.
[12:09] <Innomen> done
[12:09] <Innomen> shall i test it?
[12:09] <ikonia> Innomen: reboot and lets take a look
[12:09] <Innomen> reboot and such?
[12:09] <it-linux> carlinux | before you do, back-up your files Ok?
[12:09] <carlinux> it-linux: i reinstalled a lot of package (base) and it did nothing
[12:09] <carlinux> yes
[12:10] <Innomen> while its doing that can you explain what you just did? here's my guess, the root trells grub where the ubuntu install is, and the setup tells it where to install its loader which is what actually generaqtes the selection menu, and you are thinking that whatever is booting first is not getting the menu, and ytou just tried ot fix that
[12:10] <carlinux> it-linux: my ubuntu is running correctly exepted the tty
[12:10] <Innomen> I'm trying to learn here lol
[12:11] <ikonia> Innomen your almost spot on. "root" tells grub where to look for the "root grub" files to be able to read the disk, such as the menu.lst and the stage1_$X files, that will get the grub menu up - then the lines in the menu.lst tell grub how to boot ubuntu
[12:11] <Arepie> hello.. how can i install a .sh file?
[12:11] <ikonia> Innomen the "root" commands actually has nothing to do with the ubuntu install, just the grub boot files
[12:11] <carlinux> it-linux: with the error "user not known to the underlying module" i'll try to fix the prblem
[12:12] <ikonia> Innomen see the difference
[12:12] <ikonia> Arepie what are you trying to install ?
[12:12] <Innomen> gah same thing, "bootguard" *goes and gets the shot gun*
[12:12] <Auckla> Ok explain this. I was just watching movie files on my machine, then I went to go watch some quicktime files. Now all my video no matter on what player is garbled?
[12:12] <ikonia> Innomen ok, ok - no problem. Lets check this out
[12:12] <Arepie> ikonia: crossover linux
[12:12] <Auckla> :)
[12:12] <Innomen> *pets his computer* I'm gunna ahve to put you down girl *sniffle*
[12:12] <ikonia> Innomen not quite yet
[12:12] <Innomen> :P :)
[12:12] <ikonia> Innomen in the bios can you see what he boot disk is ?
[12:12] <it-linux> carlinux | I have to go home now, but maybe you can send me an e-mail in : eddymulyono2007@bsiku.com, I hope we can keep in touch Ok? see you!!!
[12:12] <carlinux> it-linux: when you do ls -al /dev/tty* what user and group do u have ?
[12:13] <gorski> is there a program which checks cd/dvd-s for errors?
[12:13] <Innomen> let me make damn sure
[12:13] <Woet> when i formatted ubuntu when installing, any way to get back the data?
[12:13] <ikonia> gorski search for dvd in synaptic-  there is one
[12:13] <ikonia> Woet no
[12:13] <Woet> Oops then.
[12:13] <Innomen> foudn a list
[12:13] <ikonia> Innomen ok
[12:13] <carlinux> it-linux: owner is supposed to be root and the group tty
[12:13] <Innomen> what are you asking?
[12:13] <Innomen> the boot sequence is floopy cd HD
[12:14] <ikonia> Innomen which one of your 3 disks is the harddisk listed first
[12:14] <ikonia> ie: which one will the machine boot off first
[12:14] <Innomen> primary sata the 140
[12:14] <ikonia> Innomen ahhhh really
[12:14] <it-linux> carlinux | Yap, and yours?
[12:14] <Innomen> i put the os on it cus its the fastest
[12:14] <skinnypuppy1334> Woet: next time use the partition manager to shrink your installed partition before you install and choose manual partitioning in setup and create you a new partition for linux in the freespace
[12:14] <carlinux> it-linux: chgrp tty tty* when i reboot, the group change to to root
[12:14] <ikonia> Innomen is that the one that is supposed to be the first device from booting from
[12:14] <ikonia> Innomen as thats actually seen as the 3rd disk
[12:15] <Woet> i thought there was no data on it to safe skinnypuppy1334
[12:15] <Arepie> Hello.. how can i install a .sh file??
[12:15] <Innomen> i know
[12:15] <Woet> but now my boss tells me there was
[12:15] <Woet> :x
[12:15] <Innomen> its weird
[12:15] <ikonia> Arepie ./$filename
[12:15] <Arepie> cool
[12:15] <ikonia> Innomen ok can we do another grub test ?
[12:15] <Innomen> of course
[12:15] <Innomen> it'll take a minute to boot back into the cd
[12:15] <skinnypuppy1334> Nothing to save, just so you dont trash another in the future.
[12:15] <carlinux> it-linux: how can i change tty* group and keep setting when i reboot ?
[12:15] <ikonia> Innomen it sounds like your bios is arguing on the order of the disks with your OS
[12:15] <ikonia> Innomen ready for commands ?
[12:15] <Innomen> no, loading livecd
[12:15] <ikonia> Innomen: shout when ready
[12:16] <Auckla> Can anyone explain why I can no longer watch any video's? It was working fine two seconds ago, and now the screens are all garbled. Even if I use mplayer or movie player.
[12:16] <Innomen> oky will do
[12:16] <ikonia> Innomen: FYI: for your reading http://toorcon.techpathways.com/uploads/DetectingAndCollectingWholeDiskEncryptionMedia.pdf
[12:16] <carlinux> it-linux:
[12:16] <carlinux> ps -A | grep tty
[12:16] <carlinux>  6100 tty7     00:01:40 Xorg
[12:17] <ikonia> Innomen: bootguard looks like its the encyption on your disks
[12:17] <RockClimber> any UK'er here bought a ubuntu dell? opinions on the value
[12:17] <carlinux> only tty7 is running
[12:17] <skinnypuppy1334> Auckla: is it just your quicktime files that are garbled?
[12:17] <ikonia> RockClimber no difference in value,
[12:17] <Innomen> neato
[12:17] <Innomen> thank you
[12:17] <ikonia> Innomen just for future reading
[12:17] <Auckla> skinnypuppy1334, Well at first yeah, then I went to go do a quick test with my Robot Chickens, and they will not play either. However the thumbnails all look fine.
[12:17] <it-linux> carlinux | theese all is always root owner, because linux have the security, can you get it?
[12:17] <Innomen> hmmm
[12:17] <presto101> can someone help me im trying to decide between ubuntu and fedora
[12:18] <ikonia> Innomen I guess what is happening is ther is no boot sector on your primary boot disk so its trying to boot from teh boot sector on the encypted disk which is the "boot guard" message?
[12:18] <carlinux> it-linux:yes it's normal that root is the owner
[12:18] <magnetron> presto101: easy. choose ubuntu :)
[12:18] <ikonia> Innomen at a guess
[12:18] <ikonia> presto101 try both
[12:18] <RockClimber> ikonia, sorry, I meant they only offer one model, so whether the ubuntu model is good value versus getting one of the others that isn't built for ubuntu
[12:18] <ikonia> presto101 see which one you like
[12:18] <Innomen> that seems as good an explanation as any
[12:18] <Innomen> better then my thoery
[12:18] <ikonia> RockClimber I think it's weak
[12:18] <pabloz> presto101: I used fedora
[12:18] <it-linux> carlinux | mine all have root access right. And there's no group in it.
[12:18] <Innomen> the ghost of my cat harassing me
[12:18] <pabloz> 2 years ago
[12:18] <presto101> i have actually
[12:18] <pabloz> I used many distors
[12:19] <RockClimber> ikonia, I can't get on the site at the moment so I haven't seen the spec
[12:19] <presto101> ive got pros and cons for both
[12:19] <ikonia> RockClimber basic desktop
[12:19] <pabloz> And I seen ubuntu, i loved it
[12:19] <ikonia> RockClimber see if it meets your needs
[12:19] <presto101> is selinux actually useful?
[12:19] <ikonia> presto101 yes, in secure environments.
[12:19] <ikonia> presto101 for the average user no
[12:19] <skinnypuppy1334> Auckla: might try restarting X I had problems with quicktime files before. If you don't know how to restartX just logout and login again
[12:19] <presto101> also how is virtualzation in ubuntu?
[12:19] <ikonia> presto101 same as every other linux
[12:19] <stefg> !virtualizers
[12:19] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[12:20] <RockClimber> ikonia, probably not. I was hoping it would get round the fact that any high spec dell always has nv or ati gfx. maybe that isn't the case these days.
[12:20] <it-linux> carlinux | I like to help you but I have to go home A.S.A.P , you have my e-mail, right? After all you can ask Ubotu for this session. Sorry and see you. Au revoir...
[12:20] <carlinux> it-linux: what output do u have ls -al /dev/tty2
[12:20] <ikonia> RockClimber nothing wrong with nvidia ;)
[12:20] <carlinux> it-linux: ok thanks
[12:20] <RockClimber> ikonia, I have no need for fancy graphics so I'm happy to have open drivers
[12:20] <skinnypuppy1334> VmWare server is free from vmware site and works on dapper fiesty and gutsy!
[12:20] <pabloz> presto101
[12:20] <Auckla> skinnypuppy1334, Yeah thats what I'm going to do next. I was also having a problem with azaerus(spelling) closing immiadiately upon startup, and Q3 also closing right after I connect to a multiplayer server. Well shortly after I connect that is.
[12:20] <ikonia> RockClimber some of the dells (laptops especially) coem with the intel cards
[12:20] <ikonia> RockClimber 2 I bought recently came with intel
[12:20] <gaara> any of u here experienced with opengl programming?
[12:20] <karthik_> I need a help in configuring sound in ubuntu. I installed alsa,gstreamer and i m able to play songs. Problem arise when i try to jack in my headphones. The laptop speakers still play the sound even after plugging the headphone. I tried googling and got to know that its a well known issue. Tried some suggestions and updated alsa.Nothing really helped. Did anyone encounter anything like this and solved it? ??
[12:20] <karthik_>                 Its a Intel HDA sound card .. I tried volume control and alsa mixer..the headphone jack sense is not available... I tried the front speakers option also.. it controls both laptop speakers as well as headphones...Laptop Model  - Sony vaio VGN-C22GH
[12:20] <presto101> the reason i asked about virtualization is because ive heard about xen with fedora
[12:21] <carlinux> !ask | can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty2
[12:21] <ubotu> can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:21] <ikonia> presto101 xen is available in ubuntu from 7.10
[12:21] <pabloz> virtualbox under ubuntu presto
[12:21] <presto101> sweet
[12:21] <ikonia> presto101 I think it maybe in the server package for 7.04
[12:21] <RockClimber> ikonia, well that's good news. I might wait for more ati news before buying my next system
[12:21] <stefg> !intelhda | karthik_
[12:21] <ubotu> karthik_: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:21] <zhanx> Auckla, try deleting the .azuerus file in your home foldoer
[12:21] <ikonia> RockClimber strap in for a 2 year wait
[12:21] <Auckla> zhanx, Thanks will try.
[12:21] <presto101> i do like deb and synaptic better
[12:21] <chalcedony> what is opera called to apt-get it?
[12:21] <Innomen> is asking if i can ask about asking a question prohibited?
[12:21] <ikonia> chalcedony search for it
[12:22] <Innomen> :)
[12:22] <carlinux> please, can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty2
[12:22] <zille> hallo?
[12:22] <ikonia> carlinux why ?
[12:22] <ikonia> carlinux its created via udev
[12:22] <carlinux> i need to know the group of tty2
[12:22] <chalcedony> you don't want me to go into my rant about web browsers at the moment, please
[12:22] <ikonia> carlinux same as tty1
[12:22] <carlinux> crw-rw---- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-10-02 05:13 /dev/tty2
[12:22] <karthik_> uboto thank u..will try it
[12:22] <presto101> forgive me if this comment sounds stupid but fedora looks better to me
[12:22] <ikonia> chalcedony I didn't ask you to rant, I asked you to search for the package name
[12:22] <zille> hallllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo???????????????????????????
[12:22] <ikonia> presto101 then see how it goes
[12:22] <zille> yfgdf
[12:22] <chalcedony> are there other good we browsers ?
[12:22] <zille> tuchgnh
[12:22] <ikonia> zille best way to get ignored
[12:22] <ikonia> zille well done
[12:22] <Innomen> presto101: if they grab torches, run
[12:22] <carlinux> supposed to be crw-rw---- 1 root tty 4, 2 2007-10-02 05:13 /dev/tty2
[12:23] <zille> jo
[12:23] <pabloz> fedora is more static
[12:23] <ikonia> pabloz thats a nonsense statment
[12:23] <chalcedony> seems like there was one .. funky monkey or something
[12:23] <pabloz> ubuntu s more dynamic for me , presto
[12:23] <Innomen> presto101: its also named aftrer a hat named after a girl, thats a plus
[12:23] <vcool> hi, im having problem with pidgin. i cant receive any files ... but i can send files to my buddies ... any one can help me ?
[12:23] <chalcedony> ikonia: where does one search ?
[12:23] <pabloz> ikonia: way
[12:23] <presto101> hadnt thought of that innomen but your right
[12:23] <ikonia> chalcedony in the package manager, apt or synpatic
[12:23] <Auckla> vcool, Sounds like a firewall issue.
[12:23] <Innomen> :)
[12:23] <ikonia> pabloz its off topic
[12:24] <vcool> no
[12:24] <carlinux> please, can someone show me an output of ls -al /dev/tty2
[12:24] <vcool> i dont have any firewall
[12:24] <ikonia> carlinux tty's are spaned with users
[12:24] <chalcedony> i tried to look in aptitude but i have no clue how
[12:24] <vcool> my laptop directly connect to the internet
[12:24] <Innomen> man this takes forever to boot
[12:24] <ikonia> !apptitude >chalcedony
[12:24] <ikonia> crw------- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-09-14 10:38 /dev/tty2
[12:24] <Innomen> ikonia: do you even recall what you wanted me to type? :P
[12:25] <zhanx> carlinux, crw------- 1 root root 4, 2 2007-10-01 02:52 /dev/tty2
[12:25] <carlinux> ikonia: do u know a lot of tty ? perhaps u can help me
[12:25] <ikonia> Innomen totally
[12:25] <chalcedony> ubotu Sorry, I don't know anything about apptitude - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Innomen> amazing :)
[12:25] <carlinux> ok
[12:25] <carlinux> thanks
[12:25] <ikonia> !aptitude
[12:25] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:25] <presto101> the reason i brought up looks is that id like to do something in ubuntu to change the fonts or rendering if i could
[12:25] <ikonia> !aptitude  >chalcedony
[12:25] <chalcedony> i repeat to search in something starting with http.. one needs the browser
[12:25] <Innomen> ok, finally
[12:25] <Innomen> ready tp\o typens
[12:25] <ikonia> presto101 you can do that in anything
[12:25] <Innomen> to
[12:25] <ikonia> chalcedony search using aptitude
[12:26] <ikonia> Innomen ready ?
[12:26] <Innomen> yes
[12:26] <vcool> hi, im having problem with pidgin. i cant receive any files ... but i can send files to my buddies ... any one can help me ?
[12:26] <presto101> is there something fedora uses or is it just fonts and art/
[12:26] <ikonia> Innomen "sudo grub"
[12:26] <presto101> ?
[12:26] <chalcedony> ikonia: with what?
[12:26] <Innomen> done
[12:26] <ikonia> Innomen "root (hd2,2)
[12:26] <ikonia> Innomen: " setup (hd2)"
[12:26] <Innomen> done
[12:26] <ikonia> Innomen: "quit"
[12:26] <ikonia> chalcedony aptitude
[12:26] <Arepie> ikonia: i can't run the shell script file..
[12:26] <ikonia> Arepie what does it say
[12:26] <chalcedony> presto101: are you in the wrong room? fedora [12:26] <Innomen> oky
[12:27] <ikonia>  look ok ?
[12:27] <Innomen> reboot again?
[12:27] <ikonia> Innomen yup, when you are rady
[12:27] <Innomen> yea
[12:27] <ikonia> ready
[12:27] <Innomen> no errors this time
[12:27] <chalcedony> ikonia: i do not have a working browser. i need opera or something
[12:27] <ikonia> Innomen ok, lets see what you get
[12:27] <Innomen> if this works you get 10$ via paypal :)
[12:27] <ikonia> chalcedony you've told me that 3 times, and I've tod you 3 times search for a browser using the aptitude or synaptic package manager
[12:27] <Innomen> if you take tips
[12:27] <Arepie> ikinia: arepie@Arepie:~/Desktop$ ./install-crossover-pro5.0.0.sh - bash: ./install-crossover-pro5.0.0.sh: No such file or directory
[12:27] <ikonia> Innomen no need for that, just "thanks" is anotugh
[12:28] <ikonia> Arepie you need to be in the same dir as your script
[12:28] <ikonia> Innomen: lets see if it fixes it first before getting excited
[12:28] <Innomen> well i dont think it will work
[12:28] <Innomen> my cat is mean
[12:28] <Arepie> ikonia: yes.. of course.. the file was in the desktop..
[12:28] <tparcina> I need to downgrade from python-2.5 to python-2.4, how can I do that?
[12:28] <Innomen> oh boy look at that, bootguard
[12:29] <ikonia> Innomen: same again
[12:29] <Innomen> loading
[12:29] <ikonia> Innomen: ok, lets try one more test, then we can step up a gear
[12:29] <minimec> Hi folks. Using Compiz-fusion I have some programs that 'slip' under the gnome-panel when I start them (typically software with 'gravity northeast'). Is there a way to avoid that?
[12:29] <tparcina> downgrade of package, how can it be done?
[12:29] <ikonia> tparcina what do you want to downgrade
[12:29] <chalcedony> ikonia: i'm sorry. i'm tired and ready to cry from this browser mess. how do i uninstall lynx-cur ?
[12:30] <ikonia> chalcedony open the package manager, search for lynx and hit uninstall
[12:30] <chalcedony> i like lynx .. the cur turns it green
[12:30] <tparcina> ikonia: python, from 2.5 to 2.4
[12:30] <ikonia> tparcina how did you install python 2.5 ?
[12:30] <chalcedony> it divides into categories that don't make any sense to me
[12:30] <Innomen> brb caffine
[12:30] <ikonia> chalcedony: read the link I sent you and it will explain it
[12:31] <tparcina> ikonia: from cli
[12:31] <ikonia> Innomen no problem
[12:31] <ikonia> tparcina how, using apt ?
[12:31] <tparcina> ikonia: yes
[12:31] <ikonia> tparcina or from a tar file
[12:31] <ikonia> tparcina sorry which one
[12:31] <tparcina> from apt-get install python...
[12:31] <chalcedony> maybe you can read a link without a browser ?
[12:31] <ikonia> tparcina thats good news, so yes, you should be able to downgrade
[12:31] <ikonia> chalcedony you have lynx
[12:31] <tparcina> ikonia: can you please tell me how?
[12:32] <ikonia> tparcina 1 moment
[12:32] <chalcedony>    3. Package Management
[12:32] <chalcedony> SSL error:no issuer was found-Continue? (y)
[12:32] <ikonia> yes
[12:32] <zhanx> weirdness i cant get my z600 printer to show up in the install dialog
[12:33] <Innomen> backl and its still booting
[12:33] <Innomen> lol
[12:33] <chalcedony> AptitudeSurvivalGuidehttps:/help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[12:33] <chalcedony>    This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use
[12:33] <chalcedony>    one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a
[12:33] <chalcedony>    similar page already exists.
[12:33] <zhanx> i did the alien z600llpdk and dpkg -i on the .deb the printer detects but cant find the driver
[12:33] <zhanx> !z600
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about z600 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <cow_2001> i've used the deb files from http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin
[12:33] <Innomen> oky terminal up
[12:34] <cow_2001> will apt install newer versions of pidgin after that?
[12:34] <cow_2001> or do i have to install newer versions from the repository by myself?
[12:34] <dgjones> cow_2001, you'll need to install new versions yourself
[12:34] <stefg> !pidgin
[12:34] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> the newest version of pidgin isn't in the repository.
[12:35] <zhanx> can any help with cups and a lexmark printer
[12:35] <cow_2001> dgjones: will pidgin ever enter feisty's reps?
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: no
[12:35] <stefg> !cups
[12:35] <tparcina> ikonia: well, can you tell me how to downgrade?
[12:36] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:36] <Innomen> i think he/she's passed out
[12:36] <cow_2001> okay, thank you all for helping me today and yesterday!
[12:36] <dgjones> cow_2001, no, its not included because it wasn't available when Fiesty was released
[12:36] <stefg> !backports
[12:36] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: oddly enough, i upgraded my PC and laptop to gutsy last night, and Pidgin isn't in the repos either, its still gaim.
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> but pidgin is pre-installed
[12:37] <cow_2001> dgjones: repositories never get newer software after their official release?
[12:37] <dgjones> cow_2001, no, generally only bug fixes
[12:37] <Innomen> thats smart
[12:37] <cow_2001> dgjones: so it won't break everything else, right?
[12:37] <Innomen> if it aint broke dont fix it
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: just compile pidgin from souce, its not hard.
[12:37] <Innomen> if ytou want the cutting edge go be beta
[12:38] <Innomen> i like that logic
[12:38] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: i've installed using the deb files linked from the wiki
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: what wiki is that?
[12:38] <dgjones> IndyGunFreak, interesting, maybe the repo's are still being updated
[12:38] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Pidgin
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: possibly, i found it wierd also.
[12:38] <cow_2001> err... sorry
[12:38] <cow_2001> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: that version has a security flaw.
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> if you use MSN
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> http://www.pidgin.im
[12:39] <cow_2001> 2.1.1?
[12:39] <dgjones> IndyGunFreak, isn't that the flaw - using MSN :)
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> no, 2.2.0
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: lol, no argument from me...lol
[12:39] <cow_2001> oooh, doodie!
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: thats why i was saying, compile it from source
[12:40] <dgjones> IndyGunFreak, glad you mentioned that, I'll have to check which versions i'm running at home & upgrade
[12:40] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: okay. i should follow the instructions in pidgin.im, right?
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> dgjones: yeah, i was doing something ysterday, and happened to look at pidgin's website while doing all that upgrading, and saw the security alert
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: well, you'll have to resolve a bunch of dependencies
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: its easy though, go to pidgin.im, and download the tarball.
[12:41] <Le^stat> where do i find a clean sources list for feisty?
[12:41] <cow_2001> someone linked me to some web page, but the logging wasnt on so i don't have it here
[12:41] <shaun> anyone here got compiz working with ati gfx on 7.10beta?
[12:41] <stefg> !easysource | Le^stat
[12:41] <ubotu> Le^stat: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:41] <ikonia_> sorry, my connection dropped
[12:41] <Innomen> can i make this thing beep when my name is used?
[12:41] <Le^stat> ty
[12:41] <Innomen> no worries
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: I don' know... its easy t comnpile, i'll tell you how to do it.
[12:41] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: how do i figure out how to resolve the dep hell?
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: i'll tell you
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> go download the tarball
[12:42] <cow_2001> thanks
[12:42] <Innomen> ikonia: its up
[12:42] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.
[12:42] <Innomen> "type sudo justworkdammit"
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get me a cup of coffee
[12:43] <ikonia_> Innomen ok, last test before we have to get a bit more seroius
[12:43] <ikonia_> Innomen: "sudo grub"
[12:43] <ikonia_> Innomen: "root (hd2,2)"
[12:43] <ikonia_> Innomen: "setup (hd1)"
[12:43] <ikonia_> Innomen: "quit"
[12:44] <Innomen> rebooting
[12:44] <ikonia_> Innomen: I don't expect this to work
[12:44] <Innomen> me either
[12:44] <Innomen> :P
[12:44] <Innomen> we're cynical
[12:44] <ikonia_> Innomen got to test though
[12:44] <Innomen> i hear ya
[12:44] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: should i uninstall 2.1.1? apt-get remove pidgin
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: not necessary
[12:45] <ikonia_> Innomen I expected setup (hd0) or setup (hd2) to work
[12:45] <Innomen> ok that gave us the grub menu
[12:45] <ikonia_> Innomen no way !
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: shouldn't be, if you want to you can
[12:45] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.
[12:45] <Innomen> but when i choose any ubuntu option i get "no such partition"
[12:45] <Innomen> "error 22"
[12:45] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: what happens after i install with the source and install a new version of pidgin using the rep?
[12:45] <ikonia_> Innomen thats ok - thats your men.lst being borked
[12:45] <Innomen> and when i pick xp
[12:45] <ikonia_> Innomen thats easy to fix
[12:45] <Innomen> sweet
[12:46] <ikonia_> Innomen you may want to make a note of these settings though
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: you'll have all the dependencies resolved, and it will take about 10min to recompile..
[12:46] <ikonia_> Innomen: ready
[12:46] <Innomen> *carves little statues of iknoia*
[12:46] <ikonia_> Innomen your bios boot order is borked
[12:46] <ikonia_> Innomen /dev/sda = (hd1) /dev/sdb (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd2)
[12:46] <ikonia_> Innomen: and your boot device is sdb
[12:46] <ikonia_> oor
[12:46] <ikonia_> sda
[12:46] <ikonia_> oops
[12:46] <ikonia_> sda
[12:46] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: i mean, what will happen to all the files from the source? it wouldn't erase all the unnecessary files that the rep package don't use
[12:47] <Innomen> i log all of this but i pasted notes
[12:47] <ikonia_> ok , worth knowing
[12:47] <Innomen> so what do i do now?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: no, when you download the new source code, you compile it, then delete the old source code folder
[12:47] <ikonia_> Innomen this is why ubuntu is giving problems, your bios boot order is nuts
[12:47] <ikonia_> Innomen boot the livecd and lets fix your menu.lst
[12:47] <Innomen> yea i had alot of problems putting that drive in there
[12:47] <Innomen> oky
[12:47] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: you don't understand me
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> apparently.
[12:48] <Innomen> i do
[12:48] <Innomen> i understand indy gun freak
[12:48] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: what happens later after i've used the source package happily and want a package from the repo
[12:48] <Innomen> guns are like freedom
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> i'm difficult to understand at times.
[12:48] <Innomen> oh wait yur not talking about that
[12:48] <DjViper> cow_2001: did you install pidgin 2.2.* from repo?
[12:48] <Innomen> :)
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: just install it.
[12:48] <cow_2001> DjViper: i wish. feisty doesn't have it
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: don't get super excited, neither does gutsy, for whatever reason
[12:49] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: i've decompressed it in root
[12:49] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: /root/pidgin-2.1.1
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> you don't need to decompress it in root.. but ok..
[12:49] <Innomen> so you think we can fix this ikonia?
[12:50] <DjViper> cow_2001: you can find it in this repo: http://repository.debuntu.org/
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: why did you do that/.. just put it in your home flder.
[12:50] <Innomen> reassure me while its booting lol
[12:50] <Innomen> Iz a scareded *sniffle*
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: thats 2.2.0, it has a security flaw.
[12:50] <ikonia> Innomen it will be fine
[12:50] <Innomen> yay!
[12:50] <Innomen> :P
[12:50] <ikonia> let me just close my duplicate connection
[12:50] <cjae_> how do I leave email messages on my isp's server? or can I so I can access them from other email clients
[12:50] <DjViper> IndyGunFreak: hmm?
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: anyways, put the source code in your home folder.
[12:51] <Innomen> have fun
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: http://www.pidgin.im
[12:51] <cow_2001> why?
[12:51] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> well, as long as you know hwo to cd into the directory where the source is, i don't care whre it is, i'm jus tnot spending 10min telling you how to cd
[12:51] <ikonia> ok
[12:51] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: i've already cded
[12:51] <Innomen> ok its up
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> ok, putting the cart before the horse, but ok.
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> open a terminal, and type this w/o quotes... "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim"
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> its gonna want to install a ton of crap
[12:52] <Innomen> whats sudo mean?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> !sudo
[12:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:52] <SpiderPig> super user
[12:52] <Innomen> ahhh
[12:52] <Innomen> thanky
[12:53] <SpiderPig> rootbeer
[12:53] <cow_2001> super user do
[12:53] <Innomen> !rootbeer
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootbeer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Innomen> heheheh
[12:53] <SpiderPig> lol :D
[12:53] <cow_2001> i love root beer.
[12:53] <SpiderPig> indeed
[12:53] <SpiderPig> i love it also + dr pepper
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: are all those dependencies installing?
[12:53] <cjae_> rootbeer is hard to make flat
[12:53] <Innomen> !being_sexy
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being_sexy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: yep
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[12:54] <Innomen> sorry
[12:54] <Innomen> i wont do it anymore
[12:54] <overclucker> su is substitute user
[12:54] <ikonia> overclucker "switch user"
[12:54] <pabloz> !he he he
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about he he he - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <cow_2001> i hope the newer version of grub will enter soon
[12:54] <ikonia> !botabuse >pabloz
[12:54] <Innomen> oh it takes spaces!
[12:54] <SpiderPig> sudo is a way to keep idiots away from destroying their own system with root privilages
[12:54] <ikonia> Innomen it doesn't
[12:54] <Innomen> i wasnt willing to risk it
[12:54] <cow_2001> and the gui that sets it
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: once its done, cd to the source directory, run ./configure, then when thats done, make, then when thats done, sudo make install
[12:54] <Innomen> ahhh
[12:55] <Innomen> hidden goodness
[12:55] <Innomen> anyway
[12:55] <kiss_kill_> hehe
[12:55] <Innomen> what now
[12:55] <pabloz> !bootabuse > pabloz | grep "nice"
[12:55] <Innomen> terminal is up
[12:55] <overclucker> ikonia: really? i'll hace to rereead the man
[12:55] <ikonia> overclucker yup
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: have you bothered upgrading to feisty
[12:56] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> i mean gutsy, sorry, long morning
[12:56] <ikonia> gusty
[12:56] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak I have 2 test machiens running it
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> seems to work well.
[12:57] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak my workstation is still on feisty
[12:57] <Innomen> :)
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> *work*?..lol
[12:57] <Innomen> the names are cutre
[12:57] <Innomen> cute
[12:57] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak yes, lots of pro's a few minor niggles and very few critical stuff
[12:57] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak I've been pleased with its progress comopared to how fesity went
[12:57] <cow_2001> would you call gutsy is stable-ish?
[12:57] <Innomen> am i supposed to be doing something?
[12:57] <ikonia> cow_2001 no
[12:58] <ikonia> Innomen yeah, is your livecd booted ?
[12:58] <Innomen> yes
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i have one minor issue with Gutsy i can't figure out, although i've not had much time to put into it.. I have dual displays, and whenever i do something that requires root, the place to put the password is exactly between the two monitors, can't figure out how to move it.
[12:58] <cow_2001> so it crashes every few mins?
[12:58] <ikonia> Innomen: ok - first thing "sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt"
[12:58] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak nudge me when I get home and I'll show you how to fix that, its a problem with the nvidia drivers, had it in gusty
[12:58] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak silly hidden option that fixes that
[12:59] <Innomen> oky
[12:59] <Innomen> didnt say anything
[12:59] <Innomen> i assume it did it
[12:59] <pabloz> Paganini The Hunt ' Op.1/9  AND ubuntu is cool
[12:59] <livingdaylight> Hola Ubunteros!
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: hmmm ok.. i'll get with you on that, thats the only problem i've had thus far, not really a problem, etc.
[12:59] <ikonia> Innomen lets find out. "ls -la /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:59] <Innomen> hola! como esta?
[12:59] <Innomen> :P
[12:59] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & TIme', i get an empty window with only the title.
[12:59] <Innomen> dont know spanish so dont start
[12:59] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak nudge me - 5 hours and I'll be home
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> lol, ok
[01:00] <Innomen> oky it gave me a list
[01:00] <Woet> I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.
[01:00] <Innomen> shall i type it?
[01:00] <ikonia> Innomen perfect
[01:00] <livingdaylight> I want to upgrade my distro to GutsyMel...
[01:00] <ikonia> Innomen be good if you can show it me in the pastbin
[01:00] <ikonia> livingdaylightlivingdaylight gsutymel ?
[01:00] <Innomen> i cant cut and paste
[01:00] <livingdaylight> do i sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[01:00] <Innomen> diffrent mqachine
[01:00] <ikonia> Innomen what a pain
[01:00] <Innomen> i'll trype
[01:00] <Innomen> no biggie
[01:00] <ikonia> Innomen great, stick it in a pastebin
[01:01] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.
[01:01] <ikonia> Woet stop asking every minute
[01:01] <Innomen> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4512 2007-10-02 04:45 /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:02] <predaeus> Woet, can't you just kill that process, instead of rebooting?
[01:02] <pabloz> Woet likes clicks on the  right upper corner
[01:02] <ikonia> Innomen ok, I'm going to have to work in the dark on this so you'll have to be my eyes
[01:02] <Innomen> *cleans glaqsses*
[01:02] <Innomen> ready
[01:02] <Innomen> :)
[01:02] <Woet> How do i kill a process?
[01:02] <ikonia> Innomen open /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst in a text editor with sudo
[01:02] <Woet> And why cant i adjust my time ? :-/
[01:02] <Innomen> oky
[01:03] <kst> Woet ps -A | grep <name> shows you the number
[01:03] <pabloz> woet: first you must lists the proceses
[01:03] <kst> then you can do kill <number>
[01:03] <Woet> i just want to adjust my time on ubuntu
[01:03] <Woet> :-/
[01:03] <livingdaylight> can i do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[01:03] <ikonia> yes
[01:04] <Innomen> gawd
[01:04] <Innomen> newb
[01:04] <Scarey> Woet: System > Administration > System Monitor is also an option.
[01:04] <Innomen> how do i do that?
[01:04] <Woet> i just want to adjust my time on ubuntu
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> livingdaylight: there's still some minor bugs though.. unless you love messing things up, ight be wise to wait a few.
[01:04] <ikonia> Innomen do what ?
[01:04] <predaeus> Woet, are you on Feisty or already on Gutsy?
[01:04] <Innomen> open the file "with sudo"
[01:04] <Woet> Feisty
[01:04] <livingdaylight> IndyGunFreak, i don't mind minor bugs... i hear Gutsy is pretty ready for my desktop now
[01:04] <ikonia> Innomen Innomen in a teminal do "sudo $editor_name /mnt/boor/grub/menu.lst"
[01:04] <predaeus> Woet, hm, then I don't know. Maybe scan launchpad for bug reports, or file on yourself.
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> livingdaylight: thus far, with the exeption of a couple minor things, is been fine for me.
[01:04] <ikonia> livingdaylight still in beta
[01:04] <Innomen> oky
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> but it is STILL beta
[01:05] <livingdaylight> what comes after beta?
[01:05] <Woet> it has worked 1 time, but now it doesnt anymore
[01:05] <Woet> :<
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> final release
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:05] <ikonia> livingdaylight release candidates, or straight to final
[01:05] <livingdaylight> IndyGunFreak, what is the worst i can expect?
[01:05] <ikonia> livingdaylight depends on your needs/setup/config
[01:05] <predaeus> Woet, you can also change date with the "date" command at the command line interface I think.
[01:05] <ikonia> livingdaylight it may not work at ll
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> livingdaylight: depends on your pc i guess.
[01:05] <ikonia> Innomen: say when you are ready
[01:05] <Woet> i want it to enable synching with the internet predaeus
[01:05] <Innomen> its not working
[01:06] <ikonia> Innomen what is the problem
[01:06] <Innomen> $editor_name ?
[01:06] <predaeus> Woet, ah. Sorry I don't know how to do that by hand.
[01:06] <ikonia> Innomen: replace that with the editor you want to use, nano/vi/emavs
[01:06] <Innomen> i ttyped that, nothing and then tried text editor cus thats what its called lol
[01:06] <ikonia> etc
[01:06] <Innomen> which one is default lol
[01:06] <Cin> since i did an upgrade a few days ago to the latest kernel, amarok started freezing for ages when doing things
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i found the issue with the password thing.. it was an odd setting in my nvidia-settings... reset it and it works fien now.
[01:06] <ikonia> Innomen: do "sudo nano /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:06] <Cin> anyone else experienced this since their last updated?
[01:06] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak how od
[01:06] <punzada> yeah use nano, nano is most likely the most user friendly
[01:06] <Cin> s/udpated/update
[01:07] <punzada> vi is freaking evil even when you know it well ;/ lol
[01:07] <Innomen> oky its open
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: yeah, it had my second monitor resolution set to "auto", and my first to 1280x1024.. i guess with it being auto, it kept putting crap right in the middle of the two monitors.
[01:07] <ikonia> Innomen ok - go down to the bottom, and scroll up until you see title "ubuntu"
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> so i switched the second monitor to 1280x1024, and its fine.
[01:07] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak fantastic
[01:07] <vinboy> is there any gadgets for linux?   such as the windows sidebar or yahoo widgets or google gadgets
[01:08] <Innomen> i see them
[01:08] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak there is an nvidia option that sets one of the two displays as primary and always launches on the primary
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> it did wonk up my panels along the top though..lol, thats an easy fix though
[01:08] <Innomen> normal recovery m,ode and memtest
[01:08] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak there is another option that is launch on active, so where ever your mouse is it luanches
[01:08] <ikonia>                       an easy fix though
[01:08] <ikonia> oops
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> gnn,
[01:08] <ikonia> Innomen ok - they are not commented out with "#" are they ?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'll lok around for that.
[01:08] <Innomen> no
[01:09] <ikonia> Innomen great
[01:09] <chopchop_> I got a problem getting the sound works with ubuntu 7.10 . Im using a Dell Vostro 1500 laptop, does any1 have experienced with this laptop?
[01:09] <ikonia> Innomen so as you can see each has a "root" line, yes ?
[01:09] <Innomen> yea 2,2
[01:09] <Innomen> for all three
[01:09] <ikonia> Innomen perfect
[01:09] <ikonia> Innomen so you should also see a "root=$something" line
[01:09] <dgjones> !gutsy | chopchop_, Ubuntu 7.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1
[01:09] <ubotu> chopchop_, Ubuntu 7.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:10] <Innomen> no "="
[01:10] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.
[01:10] <ikonia> Innomen 1 moment
[01:10] <Innomen> "root tab tab tab (hd2,2)"
[01:10] <chopchop_> thx
[01:11] <ikonia> Innomen: do you see the kernel line for each item ?
[01:11] <ikonia> Innomen kernel blah blah root=$blah
[01:11] <Innomen> yes
[01:11] <ikonia> Innomen ok - what is the root line, /dev/sda or a load of random 342342jfskj2342k34j2
[01:11] <Innomen> long string
[01:11] <Innomen> no slashes
[01:12] <ikonia> Innomen so it says UUID=$34534oi3u5kjehlkjhe
[01:12] <ikonia> something like that
[01:12] <Innomen> yes
[01:12] <ikonia> Innomen: ok, I have to go in a minute for 30 minutes, so pay attention to this bit
[01:12] <ikonia> Innomen ready ?
[01:12] <Innomen> will do
[01:12] <Innomen> rdy
[01:12] <ikonia> Innomen so your ubuntu file system is on /dev/sdc3 - correct
[01:12] <Innomen> yes
[01:13] <reverie> !e1000
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e1000 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <ikonia> Innomen you need to open another windows and do "sudo blkid" and in the output look for /dev/sdc3 - you'll get a UUID=348723i42734 line, change the line in the other grub windows to match the uid from the output of "blkid"
[01:13] <ikonia> Innomen: does that make sense
[01:13] <Innomen> yes
[01:13] <ikonia> Innomen if it goes wrong, I'll be back in 30 minutes
[01:13] <Innomen> !blkid
[01:13] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:13] <Innomen> okyt
[01:13] <Innomen> cya soon thanx
[01:14] <ikonia> Innomen but thats all you need to do, make sure the uuid matches the entry in grub
[01:14] <Innomen> oky
[01:14] <ikonia> Innomen for the right disk, which in your case is /dev/sdc3
[01:14] <ikonia> back in 30
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: did you manage to get all that compiled?
[01:14] <vmlinuz1> gu
[01:15] <vmlinuz1> *hi
[01:15] <heguru> Innomen: I am here to help you match the UUID while ikonia is away :)
[01:15] <vmlinuz1> anybody knows why i have this problem with touchpad? http://rafb.net/p/plCRSB91.html
[01:15] <heguru> Innomen: in case you need any help that is
[01:16] <katti> how did i get my correct horiz and vert freq? I've tryed xresprobe nv but the freq field is empty
[01:16] <heguru> Innomen: though somehow i think the UUID's will already be the same
[01:16] <reverie> Hi guys
[01:16] <Innomen> they are
[01:16] <reverie> uhm, I have a problem with th e1000 kernel module
[01:16] <reverie> its working
[01:17] <reverie> yet i get incredibly slow transfers over samba
[01:17] <Innomen> the uuids are already macthed
[01:17] <reverie> like 250mbit/s
[01:17] <heguru> Innomen: just as I thought
[01:17] <reverie> er i mean 50mbit/s
[01:17] <Innomen> its my cats ghost i'm telling you
[01:17] <Innomen> she's mad because i wouldent let her pee in my room
[01:17] <Innomen> :P
[01:18] <reverie> Innomen, lol, my ex-cat is driving a tank in kitty heaven
[01:18] <reverie> at least that's what I tell myself
[01:18] <reverie> she got hit by a car
[01:18] <Innomen> :/
[01:18] <Innomen> mine went awol
[01:18] <Innomen> mia presumed dead
[01:18] <reverie> but I got a cool pic of her, so I'm going to make her a lolcat :)
[01:18] <Innomen> she was 13.5
[01:18] <reverie> since she was hiding in the mailbox
[01:18] <Innomen> in human years
[01:18] <reverie> a real mailbox, mind you
[01:19] <Innomen> nice lol
[01:19] <Pici> !ot
[01:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:19] <reverie> 56min to copy a 10gb file over 100mbit ethernet.. riiiight
[01:19] <reverie> sigh
[01:19] <Innomen> pici: $%^& me, i've been on topic for like 4 hours now, i can make a diversion while waiting for an on topic responce
[01:19] <Innomen> some people
[01:19] <Innomen> sheesh
[01:19] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: Hurrah! pidgin-2.2.1
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: told you it wasn't hard.
[01:20] <zhanx> yea got my printer working... now time for a backup
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: now, when 2.2.x comes out, simply compile the new source, and delete the old source
[01:20] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: is it all in /usr/local?
[01:20] <Innomen> hegurru: better hurry up, pici is getting snippy, gotta get back on topic
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: i've never really investiated whre it installs, sorry.
[01:20] <zhanx> !backup
[01:20] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:20] <hegur1> Innomen: lols, well i am thinking what could be the problem
[01:20] <Innomen> i was just gunna patneitnly wait until you were ready
[01:21] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: i dislike source installation because it wastes a lot of time to update every source package i've installed
[01:21] <Innomen> :)
[01:21] <phatfish> The current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?
[01:21] <Innomen> its xp
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: true, but when the old version you're using ha bugs, security flaws, or lacks features you need, what choice do you have/
[01:21] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: unless it's done with source deb files from the repo... or gentoo
[01:21] <hegur1> and that i am doing for past few hours as different people try to help you
[01:21] <cow_2001> IndyGunFreak: true.
[01:21] <Innomen> i'm gunna have to move it off, wipe the drive, install ubuntu and then move it back
[01:22] <Innomen> thing is i dont own a drive big enough
[01:22] <Innomen> i could wipe the backup of the 300
[01:22] <hegur1> Innomen: i don't thing its XP
[01:22] <Innomen> but as sure as i'm sitting here, thats when the first one would fail
[01:22] <reverie> can a reiserfs be resized ?
[01:22] <cow_2001> Innomen: yarr! this is pirateeeeeee!
[01:22] <katti> is there a way to get the livecd xorg.conf
[01:23] <Innomen> yarrr i be no pirate, i'm a ninja
[01:23] <cow_2001> Innomen: you've ninjad 300 from a torrent?
[01:23] <reverie> pirates are stinky, drunk slobs!
[01:23] <Breezy> what is the easiest way to find out what version of ubuntu is running?  The System...About  doesn't seem to do the trick like I espected..
[01:23] <cow_2001> Innomen: that doesn't sound good
[01:23] <cow_2001> reverie: agreed.
[01:24] <Innomen> no but i saw a great youtube where the guy screamed "this is CAKE TOWN"
[01:24] <Innomen> sorry off tipic
[01:24] <varka> Breezy: lsb_release -a
[01:24] <Breezy> varka: Thanks...
[01:25] <way2cool> hey all
[01:25] <cow_2001> okay, i'm off. thank you very much, IndyGunFreak!
[01:25] <heguru> Innomen: ok one thing, have to tried booting into the LIVECD and then from the boot menu select the last option (Boot from First Hard Disk)
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> cow_2001: np, good night/morning
[01:25] <Innomen> heburu been doing that the whole time to avoid ahveing to take the cd in and out
[01:25] <Innomen> i very lazy
[01:26] <heguru> Innomen: ahaan
[01:26] <Innomen> notice i said i instead of i'm
[01:26] <cow_2001> 13:25 GMT+2
[01:26] <cow_2001> good after noon :)
[01:26] <Innomen> from the grub menu you can point it to various drives
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: It is easy enough to reconfigure the one you have..
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> wonder when medibuntu will have a gutsy repo.
[01:26] <Innomen> they either dont exist or nothing happens
[01:26] <Breezy> okay...is there an ubuntu tool to modify your boot loader menu items?
[01:26] <switchon> hey
[01:26] <heguru> Innomen: I had a situation on one machine which would ONLY boot if I select boot from first hard disk off the LiveCD Menu!
[01:26] <switchon> hier sind aba viele leute
[01:26] <switchon> spricht i-wer deutsch
[01:26] <Innomen> breezy: if you find it, i want it
[01:27] <switchon> ey leute
[01:27] <switchon> ignoriert mich doch net
[01:27] <Innomen> heguru: thats creepy
[01:27] <kst> switchon yes, but stick to english please
[01:27] <Innomen> dont say things like that
[01:27] <way2cool> im at work right now, and my box is connected at home. however I got the IP from my ISP, trying to ssh it, with no luck. my isp said that its connected at home.
[01:27] <switchon> ok ok
[01:27] <way2cool> anything i can do?
[01:27] <switchon> me is booring
[01:27] <switchon> what should i do?
[01:27] <kst> yeah, you're boring :D
[01:27] <Innomen> lol
[01:27] <switchon> way2cool: yes you can enterain me
[01:27] <heguru> Innomen: luckily that machine's hard disk failed soon and i replaced it with another machine with *sane* bios :D
[01:28] <Innomen> switchon: i've been trying to answer that one for myself for years
[01:28] <Innomen> heheh
[01:28] <phead> !tell me about aptitude
[01:28] <switchon> lol
[01:28] <Innomen> brb
[01:28] <switchon> do you know www.google.de
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone know what ubuntu 8.04 is gonna be codenamed?
[01:28] <switchon> or google.com
[01:28] <switchon> a very good page
[01:28] <dgjones> !hardy | IndyGunFreak
[01:28] <switchon> ^^
[01:28] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[01:28] <switchon> try www.google.com
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> oh geez, that is a ridiculous name...lol
[01:29] <Innomen> back
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> hardy heron, and to think thats gonna be LTS...lol, three years of that name
[01:29] <katti> Jack_Sparrow: sure but my current conf is ignoring my Modes and the settings should be correct.
[01:29] <way2cool> switchon, how
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: If it is ignoring your modes.. you dont have it setup right
[01:30] <switchon> way2cool: tell me a funny story^^
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> they probably sholud have just reinvented hoary hedgehog...lol
[01:30] <Breezy> okay...for some reason I  booted with one of the low-latency kernels from the boot menu and my X server always seems to fail.  Is there anything special one has to do to get that running?  Is there a low-latency configuration for the X?
[01:30] <heguru> Innomen: did you try updating your BIOS to the latest?
[01:30] <switchon> way2cool: do you have ICQ?
[01:30] <Innomen> yea, i keep it up to date
[01:30] <switchon> fuck you, nobody is interested in that
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: It usually is not the video card driver but the monitor settings, refresh rates etc..
[01:30] <heguru> !ohmy | switchon
[01:30] <switchon> sorry, but someone have to say it anytime
[01:30] <ubotu> switchon: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:31] <Innomen> lol
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> switchon: watch the language please
[01:31] <switchon> yes yes
[01:31] <Innomen> switcon is a hata
[01:31] <switchon> be cool
[01:31] <Innomen> i like that
[01:31] <switchon> dito^^
[01:31] <Innomen> :)
[01:31] <switchon> lets talk about something else than ubuntu
[01:31] <Innomen> lol
[01:31] <Innomen> thye dont like that
[01:31] <switchon> 24 hours ubuntu is booring
[01:31] <stdin> !topic
[01:31] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:31] <Innomen> i been scolded already
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> !offtopic | switchon
[01:31] <ubotu> switchon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> DOnt try it guys
[01:32] <Innomen> told ya
[01:32] <enkrav> Hi, I have Breezy with an italian keyboard setup, but my sister has to practise typing with a german layout, I'd like a simple command that changes the layout... (I tried loadkeys in console but the font does not properly display german special characters)
[01:32] <enkrav> you know of any?
[01:32] <Innomen> ok if this just never works can i uninstall ubuntu?
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> enkrav: lol, why breezy?... Badger has been put to sleep
[01:32] <zhanx> !backup
[01:32] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:32] <Innomen> is it just a simple matter of dleteing the parition?
[01:33] <heguru> Innomen: yeah you can, by booting into XP recovery console (off the XP CD) and running fixmbr
[01:33] <switchon> you all are booring
[01:33] <heguru> Innomen: that will remove the grub menu
[01:33] <Innomen> peaches
[01:33] <Breezy> ...forgot there was version with that name :-)
[01:33] <katti> Jack_Sparrow: Jep. And there is the problem. The crt monitor is old and unknown. And I've lost (of course) the spec. So I tryed tools like xresprobe nv, but the ?correct? freq field is empty. So I use generic horz vert spec
[01:33] <switchon> lets talk about PC Games
[01:33] <Innomen> i'll do that later if i have too
[01:33] <heguru> Innomen: partitions you can then delete from within windows
[01:33] <Innomen> just askin
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> enkrav: breezy has reached eol and no longer gets security updates... move up to dapper..at least
[01:33] <switchon> do you know manhunt?
[01:33] <stdin> switchon: stay on topic or leave
[01:33] <switchon> stdin: shut up
[01:33] <stdin> no :)
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: seems the biggest problem(if you're a windows user), is you have to format the mbr back to where windows can read it.
[01:33] <cjae_> how do I import perfs.js from thunderbird to opera
[01:33] <switchon> ^^
[01:33] <jrib> !offtopic | switchon
[01:33] <ubotu> switchon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:34] <enkrav> I'm not gonna take advices from a madman such as Jack_Sparrow
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: then you know the problem.  MEss around too much and you will fry the old crt
[01:34] <enkrav> ;)
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> .
[01:34] <Innomen> right on
[01:34] <jrib> switchon: and please treat everyone in this room with some respect
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: i usually boot my xp disk, run fixmbr and fixboot.. and all goes well.
[01:34] <Innomen> well does anyone have any idea what could be going on?
[01:34] <jrib> !guidelines > switchon (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: whats your problem again?
[01:34] <switchon> ok ok
[01:35] <katti> Jack_Sparrow: so the advice is ..? :)
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol > enkrav
[01:35] <cjae_> it seems that opera cannot see ubuntus hidden ~ files
[01:35] <Innomen> grub says parition missing whenever i select a ubuntu option, despit the uuids matching in the menu.lst file
[01:35] <way2cool> switchon, how
[01:35] <Davo_Dinkum> for some reason my samsung SGH-D600 wont detect my Orange Micro bluetooth adapter, but my t610 detects it. why would this happen?
[01:35] <switchon> way2cool: tell me a funny story
[01:35] <Innomen> its like they are mislabled
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: find the specs on your monitor and set it up right to get the res you want.... before you fry your crt
[01:36] <switchon> is here no mod or admin?
[01:36] <Innomen> but even if i try to trick it it says either not there or wrong parition
[01:36] <dgjones> Innomen, don't rush things, shouldn't be long before Ikonia's back to finish off helping you solve the problem, seems like he's gone a fair way in getting you through it
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> katti: If you have searched every corner of the www for your monitor specs and cant find any...  it is time for a new monitor
[01:36] <switchon> y
[01:36] <switchon> e
[01:36] <switchon> a
[01:36] <switchon> h
[01:36] <heguru> Innomen: can you try this: sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=~/mbr bs=1024 count=1024
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'm not much on grub...so i dout i'll be much help
[01:36] <switchon> no
[01:36] <switchon> no
[01:36] <switchon> no
[01:36] <switchon> no
[01:36] <way2cool> switchon, one day i was walking by a villege. then something hit me in a place that we can't speak of.
[01:36] <stdin> !ops | switchon
[01:36] <ubotu> switchon: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:36] <Innomen> switchon i love people like you, i was you when i was 15, rules are bad if never challenged, and you'll learn about bureaucracy
[01:36] <carlinux> !ask | does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?
[01:36] <dgjones> !ops | switch
[01:36] <ubotu> does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:36] <ubotu> switch: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:37] <way2cool> switchon, seriously tho, I'm at work and i want to connect to my ubuntu pc at home.
[01:37] <stdin> ok, ops were too quick :)
[01:37] <jrib> argh he made me drop dvorak to kick him -.-
[01:37] <Davo_Dinkum> !bluetooth
[01:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:37] <dgjones> thanks jrib
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> stdin: tere was like 3 of them telling him to relax..lol
[01:37] <vmlinuz1> how can i add kernel option in  ubuntu???
[01:37] <Davo_Dinkum> !samsung
[01:37] <stdin> IndyGunFreak: trolls don't relax ;)
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <Innomen> what will that do?
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> not generally
[01:37] <Davo_Dinkum> !sony ericsson
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sony ericsson - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <Innomen> trolls only look stressed
[01:38] <heguru> Innomen: thats gonna dump the first 1MB of your hard to a file called mbr
[01:38] <way2cool> anything i can do?
[01:38] <Innomen> i laughed constantly when i trolled
[01:38] <way2cool> im at work right now, and my box is connected at home. however I got the IP from my ISP, trying to ssh it, with no luck. my isp said that its connected at home.
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> vmlinuz1: are you wanting to compile a new kernel... if you update your kernel, there should be an entry in grub for it.
[01:38] <Netw0rker> hi ,
[01:38] <heguru> Innomen: i wanna check if the right disk has the mbr or not
[01:38] <Innomen> heguru: sound dangerous
[01:38] <Innomen> oky
[01:38] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak???
[01:38] <Innomen> hold on
[01:38] <Peppery> way2cool: Have you port forwarded?
[01:38] <vmlinuz1> IndyGunFreak: no, i just have to add acpi=off
[01:38] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak is a bot?
[01:38] <Peppery> on your modem/router?
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> no i'm not a bot, i'm a gunfreak
[01:38] <Netw0rker> hello, do you know how to manage network-manager to remove wireless connexion that i don't want him to connect automicaly ?? Thanks
[01:38] <heguru> Innomen: no don't worry :) as long as you don't replace if with of its safe :)
[01:39] <way2cool> vmlinuz1!! thats my nick..
[01:39] <way2cool> vmlinuz1, why ur using my nickname?
[01:39] <katti> Jack_Sparrow: If there is no money ... But I'm searchin' again. There must be a spec ... somewhere
[01:39] <vmlinuz1> way2cool: i don't know :D
[01:39] <way2cool> Peppery, I guess so. but i'll check now heh.
[01:39] <Peppery> way2cool: Have you port forwarded on your modem/router?
[01:39] <Peppery> ah
[01:39] <way2cool> vmlinuz1, it is mine dude. but have fun
[01:39] <way2cool> Peppery, I guess so.. yes
[01:39] <way2cool> port 22
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> vmlinuz1: so you just want to make it where the current kernel just loads with acpi off?
[01:39] <Peppery> way2cool: /nickserv help
[01:39] <way2cool> but im at work now, i cant check to make sure :(
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> heguru: You might want to reduce the size of that file.... to 446  as in..  dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.backup bs=446 count=1   get the mbr without touching the partition table
[01:39] <vmlinuz2> IndyGunFreak: yeah
[01:40] <way2cool> Peppery???
[01:40] <Innomen> oky
[01:40] <Innomen> its dumped
[01:40] <heguru> Jack_Sparrow: shouldn't matter, i just need to check the first few bytes
[01:40] <Peppery> way2cool: If it's your nick, then you can reclaim it with nickserv
[01:40] <heguru> Innomen: you are on liveCD right?
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> vmlinuz2: ok.. i'm not 100% sure how to do that, but its should be a simple edit.
[01:40] <Innomen> troo late 1024 it was
[01:40] <heguru> Innomen: i don't know if it has hexdump
[01:40] <Innomen> yes
[01:40] <heguru> Innomen: or hexedit
[01:40] <vmlinuz2> IndyGunFreak: bootloader conf file?
[01:40] <way2cool> Peppery, come on, i wasnt even serious. it is my nick but its fine by me to someone use it. now my problem is the pc.. lets talk about my pc
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> heguru: I have people save that all the time for when they reinstall windows
[01:40] <zhanx> !cloning
[01:40] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[01:40] <heguru> Innomen: but try hexdump ~/mbr
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> or menu.lst..
[01:41] <Innomen> i seriously doubt it
[01:41] <zhanx> !automate
[01:41] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:41] <heguru> Innomen: or better try hexedit ~/mbr
[01:41] <heguru> Innomen: you are only working on the file you created, don't worry
[01:41] <way2cool> Innomen hi, join #ubuntu-offtopic i want to chat with u
[01:42] <ratpoison> proper channel for distro-talk?
[01:42] <Innomen> hex dump worked hex edit did not
[01:42] <zhanx> ok mind is fried. what is the easy way to copy the whole hd to a usb drive and the set it bootable so i can swap to a larger drive
[01:42] <heguru> Innomen: then do hexdump -C ~/mbr | less
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> heguru: Here is another tool I find useful      sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[01:43] <coder> it seems ubuntu does not like crontab for users by default
[01:43] <Innomen> oky
[01:43] <heguru> Jack_Sparrow: he's been through all that, ask him :)
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > zhanx:
[01:43] <jxxxt> I have a prob with my memory. 512meg is reported as 309 of which 304 is in use leaving 4 to run system which of course it does not any help please?
[01:43] <way2cool> Innomen, I think my private msgs won't show for you. im unregistered.
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> vmlinuz2: look at jjf's post...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128505&page=2
[01:43] <Innomen> oh
[01:43] <Innomen> oky hold on
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> heguru: I am sure you are doing fine..
[01:44] <doppelgaenger> Hi
[01:44] <Innomen> i did the | less thing
[01:44] <jrib> coder: it does, do: crontab -e
[01:44] <heguru> Innomen: ok now do you see something like: |.H....LILO...6.D
[01:44] <Innomen> i have huge list of numbers
[01:44] <doppelgaenger> Does anyone know when 7.10 stable will come out ?
[01:44] <zhanx> Jack_Sparrow,  done that not ready what i am looking for.
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> doppelgaenger: 18th i do belive
[01:44] <jrib> doppelgaenger: around the 18th
[01:44] <heguru> heguru: on the first line
[01:44] <Innomen> what i'm seeing can only be described as orderly garbage
[01:44] <Slart> jxxxt: you have one stick with 512 MB memory? or 2x256? something else?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> zhanx: actually, if you read it.. the dd command will do exactly what you want to do
[01:44] <doppelgaenger> jrib, many thanks
[01:44] <zhanx> more like looking a cp * from / to /media/hda5 and a way to copy system like sys A:
[01:45] <Innomen> 353 h 220 320 274 etc
[01:45] <zhanx> thinki missed that
[01:45] <heguru> Innomen: hmm so your file line does not contain the work LILO
[01:45] <heguru> *word
[01:45] <jxxxt> Slart, 2 at 256
[01:45] <Slart> jxxxt: where did you see the number 309 MB?
[01:45] <Innomen> i dont see it but it apears ot have cut off the top of the file perhaps, how could i know?
[01:45] <heguru> Innomen: hexdump -C ~/mbr | less
[01:45] <Davo_Dinkum> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup how do i transfer files once i have the serial connection set up?
[01:45] <Innomen> yea did that
[01:46] <cool_147> zdravo
[01:46] <heguru> Innomen: ok
[01:46] <heguru> Innomen: this is not your boot disk?
[01:46] <jxxxt> Slart, Terminal do free -m
[01:46] <zhanx> Jack_Sparrow,  thanks i missed it
[01:46] <Innomen> i have no idea man
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> np  easy command
[01:46] <cool_147> zdravo
[01:46] <heguru> Innomen: ok, again, you have 3 disks
[01:46] <heguru> Innomen: sda sdb and sdc
[01:46] <Innomen> sdc 3 is where the sys is installed but i believe its booting from a diffrent drive
[01:46] <kantor> hi, how can I enable in Ubunti to use the scsi interface emulated for my  ATA hard drive ?
[01:46] <heguru> Innomen: hmm
[01:46] <kantor> ubuntu
[01:46] <Innomen> thats the thing that weirdo ikonia out
[01:47] <Innomen> werided*
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol, that wierdo?..lol
[01:47] <Innomen> shut up lol
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> freudian slip..lol
[01:47] <Innomen> lol
[01:47] <Innomen> i almost spit tea on my laptop
[01:47] <Innomen> anyway
[01:47] <katti> hm no there is nothing about a likom L7034td in the web. Anyone know this model?
[01:47] <Slart> jxxxt: I'm thinking you shouldn't worry about all the memory being used.. it's probably being used for cache and stuff (unused memory is wasted memory according to the linux-crowd).. but the total amount of memory is weird
[01:48] <Nalleman> I have tried to download google earth. i get a bin file that i dont know what to to with. any tips?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: run it.. but if you add the medibuntu repo, googleearth is in it.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu
[01:48] <carlinux> !ask | does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?
[01:49] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:49] <ubotu> does someone know how to change the fonts in tty ?: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:49] <Slart> jxxxt: just to give you something to compare with.. I have 4 GB memory and I have 3,9 GB used by just having gnome+irc-client running..
[01:49] <Innomen> there should be an app to configure this sort of stuff for you
[01:49] <Nalleman> midibuntu. seems like the thing!
[01:49] <jxxxt> Slart, My computer is none almost operational output from free is: john@jt-laptop:~$ free -m
[01:49] <jxxxt>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[01:49] <jxxxt> Mem:           309        303          6          0          6        123
[01:49] <jxxxt> 
[01:49] <Innomen> the grub file should be able to search
[01:50] <Innomen> like i tell it to boot it says partiion not found
[01:50] <Innomen> it then searches
[01:50] <Slart> jxxxt: see the number to the far right.. cached.. you are using 123 MB for cache.. that will be used if any programs want more memory
[01:50] <Innomen> that must be super hard
[01:50] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, ehm.. is there a repo for gutsy or could i use the feisty repo?
[01:50] <way2cool> hey can i go to some router interface without being in that same Computer thats in a network with that router?
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: *I* just used the Feisty one, and it seems fine, i've used it to insall codecs, google earth, etc...
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> and had no probs.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> but ymmv
[01:50] <way2cool> hey can i go to some router interface without being in that same Computer thats in a network with that router?
[01:51] <way2cool> i know the computer ip & the router ip
[01:51] <heguru> Innomen: well what if it finds remains of a deleted partition and boots it which in turn runs autofix and screws up your working paritions?
[01:51] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, ok, and you uses gutsy as well?
[01:51] <Innomen> shit happens, thats why you put dialogs "are you sure?"
[01:51] <jxxxt> Slart, If I open a program now my computer will lock up completely
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: yup..
[01:51] <Innomen> cant break a broken system
[01:51] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, great.
[01:51] <Innomen> way2cool: i joined off topic
[01:52] <reverie> Once Gutsy comes out I think I'm going to write a nice review and hwoto for my Thinkpa + Gutsy
[01:52] <reverie> tho there is a howto already for tribe 5
[01:52] <heguru> heguru: also remember that grub runs int he mbr which is 446bytes in size.. not much you can put in this size except "boot that disk"
[01:52] <heguru> ^^Innomen
[01:52] <Innomen> is that a hard limit? can the size be increased any?
[01:52] <Slart> jxxxt: hang on.. I'm trying to find some kind of utility to check memory size etc
[01:52] <Innomen> oh oh
[01:52] <Innomen> there's got to be a way around
[01:52] <Slart> jxxxt: have you tried running memtest?
[01:52] <heguru> Innomen: its the way x86 computers work
[01:52] <Innomen> or have this app part of livecd
[01:53] <Innomen> like a simulation that asks these questions and does like a simulated bootup
[01:53] <Innomen> i'm sorry but "cant" just dosent work for me lol
[01:53] <Innomen> i cant wait till i can speak to machines
[01:53] <jxxxt> Slart, There is a memory funtion check and it seems ok yes memtest
[01:53] <Slart> jxxxt: and that one also report 309 MB total memory?
[01:53] <heguru> Innomen: one more thing, you seem to have boot guard as well?
[01:54] <enkrav> how can I ensure that anacron doesn't run anything for a while?
[01:54] <Innomen> is there a way to tile windows autmatcially in ubuntu?
[01:54] <enkrav> (while I'm burning a cd)
[01:54] <jxxxt> Slart, I only part ran to test simple mem funtion
[01:54] <Innomen> bootguard was the problem earlier
[01:54] <Innomen> yes
[01:54] <mechdave> enkrav: /etc/init.d/anacron stop
[01:54] <heguru> Innomen: so you disabled boot guard now?
[01:54] <enkrav> thx
[01:55] <Innomen> no, we installed grub to a drive that when booted to didnt bitch
[01:55] <jxxxt> Slart, Open office will not open
[01:55] <mechdave> enkrav: no worries
[01:55] <Innomen> i dont even know where that bootguard crap is comeing from
[01:55] <Innomen> its not the bios
[01:55] <Slart> jxxxt: what are you running? gnome?
[01:55] <jxxxt> Slart, Gnome yes Plus many more do not
[01:57] <heguru> Innomen: what kind of sata controller do you have?
[01:58] <Innomen> no idea
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone know the address of ubuntu headquarters?
[01:58] <heguru> Innomen: lspci | grep IDE
[01:58] <Innomen> its a dell gx260
[01:58] <Innomen> one moment
[01:58] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: Check Canoncial's website.
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> Pici: is that canonical.com?
[01:59] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: Yessir.
[01:59] <Innomen> you want me to type all this?
[02:00] <Innomen> ICH5 sata controller rev 02 intel 82801eb
[02:00] <heguru> Innomen: no it should be two lines, I need just the Number
[02:00] <heguru> Innomen: hmm
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> Pici: hmm, can't find it there.... i wanna look at their hQ on Google earth..lol
[02:00] <jxxxt> Slart, Can you think of anything else that would be soaking up my memory
[02:00] <Slart> jxxxt: I can't really find any utils that tell you more about physical memory... but if I were you I'd try to find out why your memory isn't being correctly recognized
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> see if its ran out of a garage or something..lol
[02:02] <Innomen> i gotta run some errands here in an hour or so
[02:02] <Slart> jxxxt: do you have swap space?
[02:02] <ikonia> Innomen: I'm back
[02:02] <Innomen> wb!
[02:02] <Innomen> *hugs*
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> lol, now he has to leave
[02:02] <Innomen> heguru tried ot help
[02:02] <Innomen> but it's got him baffled as well
[02:02] <ikonia> Innomen: how did you get on ?
[02:02] <jxxxt> Slart, Yes I have swap space
[02:02] <Innomen> i have a talent for munging things up iyt seems
[02:02] <Slart> jxxxt: or... what happens when you start some applications? ubuntu stops responding? you have to do a hard reboot?
[02:03] <Innomen> the uuid numbers already matched
[02:03] <ikonia> Innomen: did they ?
[02:03] <jxxxt> Slart, The OFF switch is the only option
[02:03] <astro76> IndyGunFreak, AFAIK they don't really have one... "Canonical Ltd is a company headquartered in Europe with 90+ employees working in over 18 countries.", and by headquarterd in Europe I think they mean Mark has a flat in London ;
[02:03] <ikonia> Innomen: so all you UUID numbers where right
[02:03] <Innomen> yea
[02:03] <ikonia> astro76 its an office in ireland
[02:03] <Innomen> seems so
[02:04] <jxxxt> Slart, evn little GNome icons go away
[02:04] <astro76> ah there you go
[02:04] <ikonia> Innomen and all the "root" options where (hd2,2)
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> here's a wierd gutsy bug... when i add my workspace applet to my panel, i can only have two workspaces, i'd like 4
[02:04] <Innomen> yup
[02:04] <jxxxt> even
[02:04] <Innomen> it should work
[02:04] <Slart> jxxxt: try installing memtester "sudo apt-get install memtester"
[02:04] <Innomen> yet it dosent
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> astro76: lol, it would seem that way
[02:04] <Slart> jxxxt: it's kind of like memtest86 but it doesn't require you to reboot
[02:04] <Innomen> there should be a recovery app inside the live cd
[02:04] <ikonia> Innomen I agree, take a look at the first few lines at the file, where it says "default" is there any "root" there
[02:04] <Innomen> but i wont complain :)
[02:05] <Innomen> let me reopen it
[02:05] <jxxxt> Slart, Ok I am sure I will have to quit xchat though
[02:05] <Slart> jxxxt: huh? why?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> must be a dual monitor thing, cuz it works fine on my laptop
[02:05] <jxxxt> Slart, Two things at the same time
[02:05] <Slart> jxxxt: oh.. it's a small command line app
[02:06] <Slart> jxxxt: and installing it won't take much memory
[02:06] <Innomen> oky its open
[02:06] <blizzkid> hi people, anyone experienced in using qemu?
[02:06] <jxxxt> Slart, Let me see what happens
[02:06] <Slart> jxxxt: sure.. if you have to reboot I'll be here when you come back
[02:07] <Innomen> I'm not sutre what i'm looking for
[02:07] <Innomen> i see a bunch of commented out "default options"
[02:07] <ikonia> Innomen: shouldn't be anything, I'm just looking at an example file
[02:07] <Innomen> automnagic kermnls list
[02:07] <ikonia> Innomen: one moment, just investigating the blkid stuff
[02:07] <Innomen> kernals
[02:07] <Innomen> oky
[02:07] <Innomen> take yur time
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: what ar eyou looking at, your boot/menu.lst?
[02:09] <Innomen> yes
[02:09] <ikonia> Innomen: I think - note "think" your reading old blkid entries from /etc/blkid.tab
[02:09] <Innomen> am i looking at the right thing?
[02:09] <ikonia> Innomen: you may have to re-generate the blkid's
[02:09] <jxxxt> Slart, It will not let me because I have an incomplete upgrade. I will try finsh that from the command line first
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> put in pastebin and maybe 6 eyes are better than 2..lol
[02:09] <Innomen> no boot grub menu.lst, at the very top
[02:09] <Innomen> like the top halfd of the file is neatly commented out and it syas spesifcally not to uncomment stuff
[02:09] <ikonia> Innomen thats fine
[02:10] <CyberFAIL> what would i install to chat to gtalk contacts
[02:10] <Slart> jxxxt: ok
[02:10] <CyberFAIL> well log into my gtalk account
[02:10] <Innomen> oky, what shall i do my Liege?
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: pidgin
[02:10] <CyberFAIL> is it in the repos
[02:10] <ikonia> Innomen still working it all out
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> um, *maybe*... but the version in the repos has a security bug.;
[02:10] <Innomen> is it st krispins day?
[02:10] <paulowsky> hi, can anybody tell me how ntfs file sharing is done on ubuntu? i want to make my windows partition a read-write partition.
[02:10] <Innomen> sorry
[02:10] <Pici> Pidgin is not in the Feisty repos.
[02:11] <pixl> how can I change icon size in gnome menus? A quick search tells me I have to apply a patch to gtk, but there must be a better way :P
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:11] <CyberFAIL> feisty
[02:11] <CyberFAIL> i have the pidgin source
[02:11] <CyberFAIL> lets do this...
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok..
[02:11] <Innomen> :)
[02:11] <Innomen> lez do dis!
[02:11] <Innomen> heheh
[02:12] <CyberFAIL> lol
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: first, build the dependency list... open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim".. no quotes
[02:12] <Innomen> yeeeee boyyeeee
[02:12] <Innomen> sorry
[02:12] <Innomen> i dont do that actually
[02:12] <CyberFAIL> is dbl clicking and saying extract to home folder ok?
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: not yet
[02:12] <CyberFAIL> i have gaim installed
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: well, i'd uninstall gaim if i were you, but your'e still gonna have to build a gaim dependency list
[02:12] <julz> could someone help me get xubuntu to recognise a pci card please?
[02:12] <CyberFAIL> yay
[02:12] <CyberFAIL> 29mb of download...
[02:13] <Innomen> the os should be a com piler, and just ahve the apps written in code directly
[02:13] <CyberFAIL> and do i have to uninstall gaim? im using it for msn
[02:13] <Innomen> like how dungeon seige works
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: i imagine you probably should, you can set up pidgin with MSN.
[02:13] <Innomen> plain text game files
[02:13] <Innomen> :)
[02:13] <kimmey2k3> !backup
[02:13] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:13] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak:
[02:13] <ikonia> Innomen just trying to work out how to generate new uuid's
[02:13] <kimmey2k3> !im
[02:13] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ?.. what
[02:13] <CyberFAIL> must i remove game before building the dependency's?
[02:13] <Innomen> like i said take yur time
[02:13] <CyberFAIL> or can i just leave it there?
[02:14] <Innomen> it may not be fixable
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: i told you, i would.
[02:14] <Innomen> might be something unique to my configuration
[02:14] <ikonia> Innomen very frustrating, I don't see why you are not getting the correct partition, when the uuid is right
[02:14] <CyberFAIL> yea but i mean must i remove it before building the dependencys?
[02:14] <Innomen> me either
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: if you're going to remove it, then yes, remove it before building the dependencies
[02:14] <CyberFAIL> ok
[02:14] <CyberFAIL> sudo apt-get uninstall gaim?
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get remove gaim
[02:15] <heguru> ikonia: would you recommend super grub boot disk to try to boot?
[02:15] <ikonia> Innomen: take a look in /etc/blkid.tab and see if the info in there matches up
[02:15] <Innomen> oky hyold on
[02:15] <ikonia> heguru supergrub is just the same version of grub on the live cd, so no
[02:15] <CyberFAIL> ok busy removing
[02:15] <barzini> how do I fix this "failed to create initrd image /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs line :91 mktemp: command not found" can I apt-get mkinitramfs
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok.
[02:15] <tetraedr> hi everyone!
[02:15] <Woet> hi
[02:16] <ikonia> barzini the command mktemp is not on your system
[02:16] <heguru> ikonia: except it can find bootable partition and try to boot them directly
[02:16] <ikonia> heguru its already found bootable partitions in the grub install.
[02:16] <ikonia> heguru the problem is his uuid's are not matching up to a physical readable partition
[02:16] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: ok busy doing the dependencys
[02:16] <tetraedr> people I got a trouble with ubuntu installation: I got notebook which has wxga and it can't work with simple vga driver which is used for X by default. there are no drivers which may suite to wxga in default installation cdrom. how to install it?
[02:17] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by rebooting my computer.
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok... that wil probably take a couple min
[02:17] <Woet> Or killing the process.
[02:17] <ikonia> tetraedr what video card do you have
[02:17] <tetraedr> ikonia ati
[02:17] <Innomen> ok both open
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: while its doing that, have you extracted the source code?
[02:17] <ikonia> !ati >tetraedr
[02:17] <Innomen> it all matches
[02:17] <ikonia> tetraedr: read that link
[02:17] <Innomen> it is pointing to the drive it should be
[02:17] <julz> ubuntu can handle usb 2.0, correct?
[02:17] <mooper> Hi, I have dual dvi monitors but ubuntu wont let me set them up as dual screen..... Apply is greyed out!
[02:17] <barzini> ikonia: should mktemp be on my system? after that error I get error processing linux-image-2.6.15-28-server (--configure)
[02:17] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: i extracted it by saying extract from the gui
[02:17] <ikonia> Innomen does the file systems in /etc/blkid.tar match up
[02:17] <tetraedr> ikonika which link?
[02:17] <CyberFAIL> do i need to untar xzf or any of that weird stuff?
[02:17] <ikonia> barzini correct
[02:18] <tetraedr> !ati
[02:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <Innomen> wait
[02:18] <ikonia> tetraedr ubotu just sent you a pm
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok, and it put a folder on your desktop pidgin 2.1.1 or something?
[02:18] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by killing the process..
[02:18] <kimmey2k3> @backup
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: one step at a time... just follow me
[02:18] <ikonia> Woet stop asking every minute
[02:18] <CyberFAIL> yesh IndyGunFreak
[02:18] <kimmey2k3> !backup
[02:18] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[02:18] <ikonia> Woet log a bug on launchpad if your not getting anywheere in here
[02:18] <Innomen> gunna need a better idea of what you are asking, sorry
[02:18] <kimmey2k3> !im
[02:18] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:18] <kimmey2k3> !editors
[02:18] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: just for simplicity sake, i'd move that source folder, inside your home folder.
[02:18] <Woet> how ikonia?
[02:18] <Innomen> like are you aksing if elements withint the nex file match or elements within the new file and the menu file match?
[02:19] <ikonia> Innomen: in /etc/blkid.tab it has details on the devices things like type="ntfs" etc etc. Does that match up with what is rally on your system
[02:19] <Milos_SD> hello .... I started Ubuntu 7.10 Beta, and boot screen is deformed ... It's like resolution is not right ...
[02:19] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: thats where it was ment to go, dont know how it got to desktop
[02:19] <Innomen> yes
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: it happens... like i said, just for simplicity, thats where id put it.
[02:19] <Innomen> it sees the 3 paritions on the main ata drive
[02:19] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: ok moves
[02:19] <Milos_SD> I started Live CD...
[02:19] <CyberFAIL> moved*
[02:19] <Woet> When i do rightclick on the time on the right upper corner, and then 'Adjust Date & Time', i get an empty window with only the title. I cant close it anymore, only by killing the process..
[02:19] <ikonia> Innomen and it all looks good
[02:20] <ikonia> Woet STOP asking every 1 minute
[02:20] <Innomen> as far as i can tell
[02:20] <ikonia> Woet if your getting no-where leave it a while, or log a bug in ubuntu's launchpad
[02:20] <Woet> HOW?
[02:20] <ikonia> Woet vistit the launchpad website
[02:20] <IdleOne> Woet: www.launchpad.net
[02:20] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: 8 minutes for download of gaim dependency's
[02:20] <Woet> k.
[02:20] <CyberFAIL> brb with ice cream
[02:20] <apecat> why won't the gnome keyring manager show my passwords in cleartext?
[02:20] <CyberFAIL> :D
[02:20] <Innomen> i want icecream
[02:20] <apecat> (feisty)
[02:21] <ikonia> Innomen this is very frustrating. I can't understand why your selected partition is not usable
[02:21] <ikonia> Innomen: ahhh yes I can !!!
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:22] <Innomen> :)
[02:22] <barzini> ikonia: apt-cache search didn't find mktemp how do i install?
[02:22] <ikonia> Innomen your on the livecd now ?
[02:22] <Innomen> regardless i stand in awe of your dedication to a stranger
[02:22] <Innomen> yes i am
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> oopsie.
[02:22] <blablubb> hey, i'm installing a pcmcia-card on a laptop. i've got a howto but i don't find the ndiswrapper-source.tar.bz2
[02:22] <ikonia> barzini I can't remember the package name, normally tmpfile or something
[02:22] <ikonia> barzini hang on
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> the "default" wallpapers in Gutsy suck.
[02:23] <minimec> IndyGunFreak: A good reason to use WinXP again ;)
[02:24] <Innomen> lol
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> minimec: i have 1 good reason to use XP, my gps device... thats why xp only has a 15gig partition..lol
[02:26] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: 2 mins left... brb with more ice cream
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol, ok
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> at least he gets a workout running bck and forth to the freezer
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: did you guys figure out your prob?
[02:27] <ikonia> Innomen: did you say you are on the live cd ?
[02:27] <Innomen> i think iknoia has an idea but he/she ran off
[02:27] <ikonia> Innomen: think I have the answer
[02:27] <Innomen> yes
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:27] <ikonia> Innomen: have you got your ubuntu disk mounted under the livecd on /mnt ?
[02:28] <Innomen> i'm not sure, how would i check?
[02:28] <ikonia> Innomen: sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt
[02:28] <Innomen> alreayd mounted
[02:29] <pawan> hi
[02:29] <ikonia> Innomen: excellent, so open /mnt/boot/grub/device.map in a text editor
[02:29] <pawan> what is the latest version of ubuntu
 at least he gets a workout running bck and forth to the freezer <== it is quite the run
[02:29] <ikonia> pawan 7.04
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: stable is feisty fawn 7.04, gutsy 8.10 will be out in about 20 days
[02:29] <Innomen> oky
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: lol
[02:29] <ikonia> Innomen in thatfile you should see an entry for /dev/sdc
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> is it done download the dependencies?
[02:29] <pawan> 8.10 beta is out there
[02:29] <ikonia> Innomen what does /dev/sdc map to ?
[02:30] <Innomen> open
[02:30] <ikonia> pawan 7.10 beta is out
[02:30] <ikonia> pawan but it is a beta
[02:30] <Innomen> hd2
[02:30] <ikonia> Innomen damn !
[02:30] <ikonia> Innomen thought I had it then
[02:30] <pawan> will the new release be feisty
[02:30] <Innomen> no you're right this should be working
[02:30] <Innomen> i dont think its the software
[02:30] <ikonia> pawan no 7.04 is fesity
[02:30] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: yup its done
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[02:30] <Innomen> i think heguru was onto it when he asked about my ata controller
[02:30] <pawan> then
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> in a terminal, type cd ~/pidgin-2.1.1
[02:31] <ikonia> Innomen and to double check the root(hd2,2) entry is in /mnt/boot/grub/meny.lst"
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> and it should change the directory prompt in the terminal
[02:31] <usr13> pawan, Yes the new release will be feisty, but that's not it's name  :)
[02:31] <Innomen> that drive was a huge pain in the ass to get seen by the system
[02:31] <Innomen> even now the live cd is not seeing the 300s on the ide channels
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: sorry, that should be cd ~/pidgin-2.2.1
[02:31] <pawan> can we upgrade the existing installation
[02:31] <CyberFAIL> lol
[02:31] <Innomen> ok
[02:31] <CyberFAIL> i noticed but cd'ed there manually
[02:32] <ikonia> Innomen  but just to be clear "root (hd2,2)" in /mnt/boor/grub/menu.lst"
[02:32] <usr13> pawan, Yes
[02:32] <pawan> or new installation
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok.. type ./configure
[02:32] <Innomen> between the menu, the blkids, and the device map we have a path of trans;lation between the /dev/sd* the (hd*) and the menu items
[02:32] <usr13> pawn Yes
[02:32] <Innomen> i've learned the whole cycle
[02:32] <ikonia> Innomen this would be easier if you could pastbin the whole thing
[02:33] <unicode> !3d
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <Innomen> yea the ubuntu options all point to hd 2,2
[02:33] <ikonia> Innomen spot on
[02:33] <Innomen> yea I'm sure :/
[02:33] <ikonia> Innomen i'll have to think on this, ias it makes no sense
[02:33] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak:
[02:33] <barzini> ikonia: just in case you lost me :-D I am still hanging on
[02:33] <CyberFAIL> now make?
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> yes.
[02:33] <zoldar> how to enable chat logging in kopete ?
[02:33] <ikonia> barzini sorry, I forgot about you
[02:33] <CyberFAIL> then make install?
[02:34] <barzini> he no prob I appreciate any help
[02:34] <Innomen> i'm sorry barzini
[02:34] <Innomen> I'm hogging the genius
[02:34] <Innomen> you can have some
[02:34] <barzini> hey real problems are real i shot my self in this case I think
[02:34] <pawan> hello
[02:34] <Innomen> well hell me 2
[02:34] <Innomen> lol
[02:35] <ikonia> barzini the package is called mktemp
[02:35] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: after make... do i do make install?
[02:35] <DaBeowulf> Is there an oss mixer?
[02:35] <DaBeowulf> I used Audacity on Win98SE to record stuff and just gave it a try under Xubuntu but there're high frequency beeps and all sorts of things and the recorded stuff sounds absolutely crappy and unlike the source stuff. I tried alsamixer and xfce4-mixer to no avail.
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: after make, its sudo make install
[02:35] <barzini> ok is there a prefferd way to get it?
[02:35] <ikonia> Innomen your pro blem is very unusual
[02:35] <Innomen> audacity! that reminds me
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> then it should be compiled and in your menu
[02:35] <CyberFAIL> and then?
[02:35] <CyberFAIL> !play? :D
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about play? :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Innomen> is the a gui for perl audio converter?
[02:36] <ikonia> barzini from the synaptic repo I guess, if you search synaptic for initd or mkinitrd it will proably be a dependency
[02:36] <Innomen> my voice recorder spits out weird voc files heheh
[02:36] <sodoku> has anybody time differnces in the appointments between the gnome panel and evolution?
[02:36] <sodoku> gnome panel shows appointments one hour to late
[02:36] <navets_> ls
[02:37] <heguru> Innomen: you don't have PATA hard disks in the same machine?
[02:37] <ikonia> heguru he said he had two PATA's with it
[02:37] <Innomen> how do i check if they are pata?
[02:37] <Innomen> on is sata the others arent
[02:37] <Innomen> i dont know what they are
[02:38] <ikonia> Innomen: IDE = pata SATA = serial
[02:38] <adlisyakir> hye.. how i can play irc like mirc in ubuntu?
[02:38] <adlisyakir> i'm using ubuntu 7.04
[02:38] <ikonia> adlisyakir xchat
[02:38] <CyberFAIL> omw make takes long
[02:38] <adlisyakir> how i can get xchat?
[02:38] <DaBeowulf> No pidgin
[02:38] <ikonia> adlisyakir install it using the package manager
[02:38] <adlisyakir> how>?
[02:39] <Innomen> oh yes
[02:39] <sodoku> sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:39] <ikonia> !synaptic >adlisyakir
[02:39] <Innomen> heheh ide
[02:39] <sodoku> in the terminal
[02:39] <DaBeowulf> !pidgin
[02:39] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:39] <sodoku> !pidgin
[02:40] <DaBeowulf> God why does the recorded stuff sound so crappy? And why is there a high frequency constant beep even if I only record 'silence'?
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: yes, make will take a few minutes.. usually about 10-15
[02:42] <LjL> DaBeowulf: noisy soundcard? MIDI input (or other noisy inputs) enabled?
[02:42] <dorothygale_> Hi all. Where can I get Ubuntu Server support?
[02:42] <LjL> who #ubuntu-server
[02:42] <LjL> ahem
[02:42] <LjL> here.
[02:42] <dorothygale_> thanks
[02:43] <adlisyakir> what is pidgin?
[02:43] <MikeonTV> Hey guys. My morning routin includes turning on my duelbooted laptop (with ubuntu as default), then I open IRC and other programs that constently are updating and then getting ready for the day. I use BitchX irc client (runs in the terminal) is there a way to set a series of command in the terminal so It will automatically open 4 terminals, each run Bitchx and get me in to my servers and channels?
[02:43] <DaBeowulf> Well it's onboard sound but my old mobo had a nice one so I thought they do, this: Realtelk ALC655 (6 channel audio CODEC) compliant with AC'97 2.3 specs
[02:44] <dgjones> !pidgin | adlisyakir
[02:44] <ubotu> adlisyakir: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:44] <Unterfranke> hi
[02:44] <Unterfranke> plz
[02:44] <Unterfranke> can you tell me, an German ubuntu Chan
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: once its completely done, just start pidgin, and there's a Googletalk plugin, jus set it up with your account, same with msn
[02:44] <dgjones> !de | Unterfranke
[02:44] <ubotu> Unterfranke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:44] <Unterfranke> thx
[02:44] <heguru> Innomen: do you want to try something else to fix your boot issue?
[02:44] <Innomen> duhr
[02:44] <CyberFAIL> jsut started the make install IndyGunFreak
[02:45] <Innomen> of course :)
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok.
[02:45] <Innomen> i'm leanring here
[02:45] <Innomen> learning
[02:45] <heguru> Innomen: open the device.map file in an editor
[02:45] <Innomen> open
[02:45] <Unterfranke> Servus
[02:45] <heguru> Innomen: add one line for each hard disk
[02:45] <adlisyakir> hye.. how i can get 2 OS in one computer, like windows vista and ubuntu without effect my pc. and i can choose one that i want when open the pc. how/?
[02:46] <heguru> Innomen: (hd0) /dev/sda
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | adlisyakir
[02:46] <ubotu> adlisyakir: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[02:46] <Innomen> thats what it has already
[02:46] <heguru> Innomen: hd1 should be sdb, hd2 is already there i believe, hd3 should be /dev/hda, hd4 should be /dev/hdb
[02:46] <heguru> Innomen: ah my bad sorry got confused
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> adlisyakir: but some people have had issues dual booting vista, ymmv
[02:46] <Innomen> oky there is no 4
[02:47] <Innomen> or 3
[02:47] <heguru> Innomen: you have a total of 5 hard disks right?
[02:47] <heguru> Innomen: 3 SATA and 2 IDE?
[02:47] <Innomen> yes but it dosent see the 300s
[02:47] <Innomen> no
[02:47] <Innomen> 2 peta 1 sata
[02:47] <Innomen> the 1 seta is cut into three parititons
[02:47] <Innomen> 1 xp, 1 ubuntu 1 swap and freespace un allocated
[02:48] <CyberFAIL> IndyGunFreak: it wont connect
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> why not?
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> yuou're doing something wrong then
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> i'm n my gmail account righ tnow and its fine.
[02:49] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[02:50] <Innomen> could i loan machine to the ubunut people
[02:50] <Mortice> 3
[02:50] <Mortice> oops
[02:50] <barzini> ikonia: that  got it and it seems happy in the process however I seem to have lost my desktop backgound, X's where things where around the desktop and icons on the menus are gone
[02:50] <Innomen> could i loian this machine to the ubuntu people and ahve the develop a fix?
[02:50] <Innomen> them
[02:50] <ikonia> Innomen if you have network access, I'll play with it and see if I can fix it
[02:51] <ikonia> barzini what are you actually doing ?
[02:51] <Innomen> nope i dont, i have a belkin pci wireless card it it dosent see the net
[02:51] <Innomen> let me tinker
[02:51] <ikonia> Innomen ok
[02:51] <superhumanly> Hey, can someone help me with a touchpad related issue? My touchpad is WAY too sensitve...
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: did you figure it out?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> !touchpad
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> !touch
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Rabbitbunny> So, I'm running fine and stable on 6.06, Assuming I install a soundcard, What are the cahnces of it not booting to a usable state versus working perfectly?
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> Rabbitbunny: why 6.06?
[02:52] <Rabbitbunny> IndyGunFreak: 733MHz, 320MB.
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> anyways, it depends on the sound card.
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> Rabbitbunny: that has nothing to do with it.
[02:52] <jegHegy> hello all. i'm having bluetooth problems (feisty, laptop with USB BT adapter, Sony-Ericsson phone, Asus Windows Mobile 5 PDA); i can pair all devices successfully, but i cannot create a persistent connection from the laptop to the other devices. it works fine if i browse OBEX or send files, but if i try to bind a serial port of a device to the laptop in blueman, it connects while i discover the services, and then disconnects immediately.
[02:52] <Rabbitbunny> 6.10 and 7x hate me too.
[02:52] <dgjones> !synaptics | superhumanly
[02:52] <ubotu> superhumanly: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:53] <CyberFAIL> yes IndyGunFreak
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> Rabbitbunny: i'm guessing you were doing something wrong then... or some hardware issue.
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> CyberFAIL: ok.
[02:53] <superhumanly> thanks obotu
[02:53] <Rabbitbunny> IndyGunFreak: Probably hardware. I guess I'll grab the soundcard and ask a more difned question.
[02:53] <Rabbitbunny> defined*
[02:53] <Innomen> its trying to connect
[02:54] <Innomen> it does see my wireless card
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> Rabbitbunny: google will probably go a long way to helping you pick a compatible sound card
[02:55] <heguru> Innomen: sorry my nm-applet got upgraded
[02:55] <gordonjcp> Rabbitbunny: unless something is terribly terribly wrong, adding a soundcard shouldn't stop your PC from booting
[02:55] <barzini> ikonia: I was trying to add ffmpeg days ago but scrwed up something when I did an update and upgrade now I have the kernel fix so it's not complaining but gnome got removed or corrupted in the process can I jsut resintall the desktop or what
[02:55] <Innomen> its good man
[02:55] <Innomen> you guys dont have to apologize to me for anything
[02:55] <Innomen> i'd pay you all for your time if i had the money
[02:55] <heguru> Innomen: ok one thing i don't understand, why is your disk detected as sdc while its the only sata disk
[02:55] <Rabbitbunny> Creative SoundBlaster 24bit sound realistic?
[02:55] <ikonia> barzini not sure why a kernel update would remove gnome
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: did they figure it out?
[02:56] <Innomen> no they didnt but not for lack of trying
[02:56] <heguru> Innomen: ok lets try to open the device.map file again
[02:56] <Innomen> open
[02:56] <heguru> can you tell me the three lines that are there?
[02:57] <Innomen> a list hd 0-2
[02:57] <Innomen> dev/ sd a b and c
[02:57] <Innomen> in order
[02:57] <Innomen> 0=a and so on
[02:57] <Chriswaterguy> Hi - I can't find the opt directory! It does show up in Thunar, under filesystem. (I'm trying to copy sunbird files into opt, following an installation guide)
[02:57] <Chriswaterguy> sorry, I meant, "it doesn't show up"
[02:58] <barzini> ikonia: I think the real problem was the go-by to find ffmpeg lead me to pulling from unstable sources to locate ffmpeg and i got some stuff that caused problems but getting rid of it cause the other problem. I think I' stable now I just need my desktop back
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: open a terminal  gksudo thunar, then navigate to the opt folder
[02:58] <ikonia> barzini re-apply the "gnome-desktop" package
[02:58] <barzini> via apt-get ?
[02:58] <heguru> Innomen: are you sure you have 2 IDE and 1 SATA hard disks and not 3 SATA hard disks?
[02:58] <_stefan_> anyone else having trouples finding proftpd package through apt? I've done apt-get update but I cant find the package, has there been a security issue with it?
[02:59] <Innomen> certain
[02:59] <Innomen> but i'm willing to try anything
[02:59] <ikonia> heguru don't forget ide is now /sd$
[02:59] <Pici> _stefan_: Looks to be there, make sure that you have the universe repo enabled.
[02:59] <zhanx> ok, here is the next one....
[02:59] <Pici> _stefan_: At least on feisty.
[02:59] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: what is the problem, grub doesn't load?
[02:59] <zhanx> !biometrics
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about biometrics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <heguru> ikonia: yeah just realized
[02:59] <zhanx> !fingerprint
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fingerprint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <zhanx> !bioApi
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bioapi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <_stefan_> thanks I'll check, was sure I unmarked it when I marked cdrom
[03:00] <LjL> !botabuse | zhanx
[03:00] <ubotu> zhanx: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:00] <Innomen> grub loads, i sekect ubuntu and it says partion not found
[03:00] <Innomen> error 22 i think
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: oh ok...
[03:00] <ikonia> Innomen thats correct selected partition does not exist
[03:00] <ikonia> Innomen which it does
[03:00] <zhanx> ok.. that taken care. trying to get my finger print reader working
[03:00] <Innomen> when i pick the windows one it says error 13
[03:00] <ikonia> Innomen hence the lost
[03:00] <ikonia> Innomen the windows one is error 13 ?
[03:01] <zhanx> i cant get the sample program to start
[03:01] <Innomen> yes
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: heguru  have you guys considered like maybe just reinstalling grub w/ super grub disk or something?.. I don't know, i know squat about grub.
[03:01] <Innomen> something about format it says
[03:01] <Innomen> i cant recall but i said it before
[03:01] <Innomen> let me search
[03:01] <dogger> hi can anyone suggest a good secure currently maintained IRC server to install on ubuntu?
[03:01] <Pici> !enter
[03:01] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:01] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak: Thanks... but I still can't see opt!
[03:01] <Innomen> gah buffer too big
[03:01] <Innomen> iz gone
[03:01] <ikonia> dogger its just personal opinion
[03:01] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: did you click on Filesystem on the left?
[03:01] <Chriswaterguy> yes
[03:02] <Chriswaterguy> there's mnt and proc, but no opt in between.
[03:02] <dogger> sure, but I'm asking peoples opinions - lots of them seem to be dead
[03:02] <genii> !info ircd-hybrid |dogger
[03:02] <ubotu> dogger: ircd-hybrid: high-performance secure IRC server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.2.2.dfsg.1-3 (feisty), package size 549 kB, installed size 2208 kB
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: hmm, i have no explanation, i'm looking right at mine.
[03:02] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak: I'm using Xubuntu, does that matter?
[03:02] <dogger> ok thanks
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: shouldn't
[03:02] <_stefan_> Pici: it was there it was under the security universy, *tries to become less stupid, might be hard though*
[03:03] <genii> dogger: Lots of info can be found at their home site, http://www.ircd-hybrid.org/
[03:04] <dogger> thanks genii :)
[03:04] <zoe> kfgkgkgk
[03:04] <superhumanly> another issue: when i install all of the updates(after installing a clean alternate iso version of 7.04, ubuntu will no longer boot, it stops at an error message.
[03:04] <ckin2001> Chriswaterguy, sudo mkdir opt , opt isn't alwasy created by default
[03:04] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak: hmm... if there's no suggestions, I'll post on a forum somewhere (I guess ubuntuforums or linuxquestions).
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> ta
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> ya
[03:04] <Chriswaterguy> ah
[03:04] <genii> dogger: You're welcome :) Maybe look into some bots as well, eggdrop or such to keep cahnnels open and police them
[03:05] <dogger> ah ok sure
[03:05] <saxi1> superhumanly: have you tried to choose an older kernel?
[03:05] <Chriswaterguy> thanks - I just created the folder in Thunar.
[03:05] <kahrytan> superhumanly, error msg is?
[03:06] <Odo> &join ubuntu-it
[03:06] <superhumanly> when i use the older kernel, it works for the first boot but then produces the same error message again, an i'm not sure of the exact mesage off hand...
[03:06] <superhumanly> i would have to install all th updates, pretty much rendering this install of ubuntu useless, in order to reprouduce the error lol
[03:07] <superhumanly> i do know that the "ubuntu" loading screen would load like |---| that much then freeze up for like 2 minutes, then the error woul appear.
[03:07] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak and ckin2001: Thanks - just managed to copy the files.
[03:07] <tudor> Hi all
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: what were you doing wrong?
[03:07] <kahrytan> superhumanly, what error msg?
[03:07] <superhumanly> i'm not sure, as i said i would have to brick this ubuntu install to reproduce it lol
[03:08] <superhumanly> any common errors wih symptoms like that that i can choose from? lol
[03:08] <superhumanly> BTW i'm running this from wubi.
[03:08] <Innomen> freenode.com or .net?
[03:09] <superhumanly> net
[03:09] <barzini> ikonia: I am getting a bunch of unmet dependencies when I issue this "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" any suggestions
[03:09] <ikonia> barzini what version of gnome desktop is it trying to pull down, the old stable or an unstable one
[03:10] <Innomen> super: thanky
[03:10] <mooper> Hi, How do I configure X to use dual screens? I have an ATI sapphire x1650 pro
[03:10] <barzini> The stable on i commented out the unstale stuff
[03:10] <barzini> stable one
[03:10] <ikonia> barzini so are the deps the stable or unstable versions its complaining about
[03:10] <superhumanly> but i guess i'll install all the updates so i can get this error to appear :)
[03:11] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak: didn't realize I had to create the file. I'd assumed that opt must be the Linux version of Programs in XP or something like that, so couldn't figure why it wasn't there.
[03:11] <Chriswaterguy> also didn't know about gksudo thunar
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol, well thats a good reason you couldn't find it.
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> Chriswaterguy: it just allows you to open thunar with root access so you can create opt(or add to it)
[03:12] <superhumanly> downloading/installing the updates now, 120 files.
[03:12] <barzini> ikonia :I don't know how to tell here is a snippit  Depends: gnome-core (= 1:2.12.2.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: epiphany-browser (>= 1.8.3-2) but it is not going to be installed or
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> you can actually use gksudo with any graphical program that needs root... gksudo gedit, gksudo thunar, etc.
[03:13] <atompngn> innomen: I understand you're having some trouble with grub?
[03:13] <Innomen> indeed i am
[03:14] <Innomen> are you the ringer from marshall? :)
[03:14] <superhumanly> WOW the flashfxp desktop icon is hgue
[03:14] <superhumanly> huge*
[03:14] <atompngn> innomen: the ringer?
[03:14] <heguru> Innomen: can you try one more thing?
[03:14] <Innomen> do you work at marshall? :P
[03:14] <Innomen> heguru
[03:15] <Innomen> of course
[03:15] <atompngn> innomen: yes
[03:15] <Innomen> yur the ringer :)
[03:15] <heguru> Innomen: but before you try, let me ask, because i remember you trying that in the morning (4-5 hours back)
[03:15] <Innomen> ikonia: heguru and others have been helping me
[03:15] <Innomen> i dont mind doing it again
[03:15] <Innomen> it'll help me learn
[03:15] <heguru> Innomen: you tried editing the grub boot options at boot time to point to different hd (hd(0,2))?
[03:15] <Innomen> yup
[03:16] <Innomen> both via the menu.lst file and from the menu itself
[03:16] <Chriswaterguy> IndyGunFreak and ckin2001: Thanks again - I'm off. Net cafes in North Sumatra are too bloody smokey.
[03:16] <heguru> Innomen: do you remember trying hd(0,2)
[03:16] <Chriswaterguy> (and this is supposedly a non-smoking one)
[03:16] <ckin2001> Chriswaterguy, np :D
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> np
[03:16] <Innomen> no i dont
[03:16] <heguru> Innomen: can you remove the cd
[03:16] <heguru> Innomen: boot again and enter the GRUB menu
[03:16] <Innomen> if i do you'll have to tell me how to open the device file and menu file again when i come back heheh
[03:17] <vsayikiran> how to use IR port in ubuntu
[03:17] <Innomen> sure
[03:17] <kane77> I have a problem: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on  unknown-block(0,0) Can I fix it somehow?? one of the previous kernels work ok...
[03:17] <Innomen> i'll still be here
[03:17] <Innomen> diffrent machine
[03:17] <heguru> Innomen: lols sure :)
[03:17] <zhanx> !compile
[03:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:17] <vsayikiran> does anyone know how infrared port work?
[03:17] <heguru> Innomen: use Ctrl+X and then N to close then without saving
[03:17] <heguru> Innomen: and reboot
[03:17] <Innomen> hey heguru
[03:18] <heguru> Innomen: yeah
[03:18] <Innomen> can you update atompngn on the nature of the problem and the basic steps we've tried?
[03:18] <Innomen> i dont recall it well enough to explain
[03:18] <heguru> Innomen: sure
[03:18] <vsayikiran> heguru: how to use infrared port does it require any drivers
[03:18] <atompngn> wth is a ringer?
[03:18] <heguru> atompngn: he's getting error 22 when trying to boot
[03:19] <heguru> atompngn: three hard disks
[03:19] <heguru> atompngn: two PATA onr SATA
[03:19] <heguru> atompngn: grub installed on PATA
[03:19] <heguru> atompngn: / on SATA
[03:19] <Innomen> a ringer is an expert hired from out of town to win a competiton
[03:19] <atompngn> ok, is /boot on a different part?
[03:19] <heguru> atompngn: no its on SATA as well
[03:19] <Innomen> its like bringing babe ruth to a little league game :P it was a compliment
[03:19] <Innomen> well now i'm not getting the grub menu
[03:20] <Innomen> it just goes straight to error 22
[03:20] <Innomen> i dont understand
[03:20] <Innomen> nothing changed
[03:20] <heguru> Innomen: well try again, maybe you missed it :D
[03:20] <trogdor> Innomen: try using live cd to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:20] <ikonia> Innomen because you've borked your grub install now
[03:20] <Innomen> lol
[03:20] <Innomen> of course i have
[03:20] <ikonia> trogdor that won't work if he's not getting the menu up
[03:20] <Innomen> let me boot form the cd again and i'll go fix it
[03:20] <trogdor> ikonia: maybe he disabled the menu?..
[03:21] <ikonia> trogdor no, he's just borked the install
[03:21] <Innomen> i didnt make any changes
[03:21] <Innomen> at least i thgouth i didnt
[03:21] <heguru> Innomen: did you change the menu.lst
[03:21] <heguru> Innomen: i don't remember you changing it
[03:21] <Innomen> not intentionally
[03:21] <Innomen> we just oepned stuff to see if the paths matched up
[03:21] <Innomen> the uuids and such
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> lol... not *intentionally*
[03:21] <Innomen> :P
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> i guess i'll ask again, wouldn't super grub disk be really good in this situation to reinstall grub, and hopefully detect ubuntu, windows, etc?
[03:22] <heguru> Innomen: try to boot to LiveCD and then from the boot menu select boot from 1st hard disk
[03:22] <Innomen> i'll say it again i'll try whatever
[03:22] <heguru> Innomen: see if you get grub menu this time
[03:22] <Innomen> its already booting into the live cd
[03:22] <barzini> ikonia: did you see my response?
[03:22] <ikonia> barzini no, sorry I didn't
[03:22] <Innomen> you want me to force it? or is there nothing i should eb doing in teh livecd
[03:22] <Innomen> i ask cus it takes awhile to boot into it
[03:23] <vsayikiran> does anyone know how to use infrared port
[03:23] <Innomen> opky sure
[03:23] <atompngn> Innomen: did they check to see if you're windows part is marked with a boot flag?
[03:23] <Innomen> how would i check?
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> its a conspiracy
[03:23] <heguru> Innomen: well, i don't want you to boot the LiveCD Ubuntu, on the first screen before the LiveCD starts loading, there is the option of booting from the first hard disk
[03:23] <Innomen> so no
[03:23] <Innomen> no grub menu
[03:23] <ikonia> Innomen: fdisk /dev/sdc
[03:23] <LjL> vsayikiran: not really, but i know you should install the 'irda-utils' package and edit /etc/default/irda-utils
[03:23] <Innomen> straight ot error 22
[03:24] <atompngn> Innomen: You'd have to use a linux compatible fdisk program
[03:24] <LjL> !irda > vsayikiran    (vsayikiran, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:24] <Innomen> booting back into the live cd
[03:24] <Innomen> i'm doing all this from ubunutu
[03:24] <Dan__> hey sup guys im having issues running the ubuntu cd to install it
[03:24] <atompngn> Innomen: so you can get ubuntu booted?
[03:24] <ikonia> Innomen: ubuntu has fdisk
[03:24] <Innomen> yea from the cd :)
[03:24] <atompngn> Innomen: just not your windows partition?
[03:24] <Innomen> yea i know, i used sudo fdisk -l earlier to display the drives
[03:25] <Innomen> no, nothing will boot from the HD
[03:25] <heguru> Innomen: ok hold on, you're not getting it. Put the LiveCD in drive, when the live cd boots, BEFORE it starts loading, you get the menu with one last option saying boot from Hard disk
[03:25] <Innomen> only the cd
[03:25] <atompngn> Innomen: so your bootloader menu, won't boot *anything*
[03:25] <barzini> ikonia: here you go  :I don't know how to tell here is a snippit  Depends: gnome-core (= 1:2.12.2.3) but it is not going to be installed  Depends: epiphany-browser (>= 1.8.3-2) but it is not going to be installed.... I'll wait my turn
[03:25] <vsayikiran> LjL: does your solutiion work , did you try yourself
[03:25] <Innomen> heguru: yes i got that, and still the grub menu is now missing
[03:25] <Innomen> i did both
[03:25] <ikonia> barzini Hmmm looks like itrs trying to ask for new versions for your current install
[03:25] <Dan__> i get a "/bin/sh:cant access tty;job control turned off(initramfs) "
[03:25] <Innomen> i know what you were haveing me do
[03:25] <ikonia> barzini you may be better doing a clean install than trying to clean up
[03:25] <LjL> vsayikiran: it's not a "solution". it's just installing the standard Linux IrDA stack utils.
[03:26] <Innomen> no it will not boot anything
[03:26] <LjL> vsayikiran: what is certain is that nothing *will* work if you don't install that.
[03:26] <heguru> Innomen: yeah so your grub menu ain't working anymore. perfect!
[03:26] <Innomen> when ubuntu options are selected it says cannot find parition error 22 and when xp is selected it says error 13 something about formatting being wrong
[03:26] <Innomen> yea lol
[03:26] <heguru> Innomen: it really is your cat's ghost!
[03:26] <Innomen> i munged it up just looking at it apprently
[03:26] <barzini> ikonia: ok so  how do I assist it
[03:26] <Innomen> i know i told you guys lol
[03:26] <Innomen> she's SO pissed at me :P
[03:26] <LjL> vsayikiran: and, no, i've had many problems with my IrDA, including not being able to transfer files via OBEX. however, if you don't install irda-utils, you're *guaranteed* not to be able to use IrDA at all.
[03:26] <ikonia> Innomen carefull on the language
[03:27] <Innomen> sry
[03:27] <ikonia> barzini as I said, you may find it easier to re-install than downgrade everything
[03:27] <vsayikiran> ok
[03:27] <murlidhar> my automatic update is not working well it says Software index is broken
[03:27] <murlidhar> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[03:27] <heguru> Innomen: you can quick fix your grub by downloading super grub disk
[03:27] <Innomen> still laoding the cd
[03:27] <Innomen> oky
[03:27] <vsayikiran> LjL: which laptop model are you using
[03:28] <heguru> Innomen: instead of going into the live cd and all
[03:28] <barzini> ikonia: when you say re-install do you mena dump my existing work and reinstall the entire os ?
[03:28] <Innomen> this should be intresting
[03:28] <ikonia> barzini yup
[03:28] <LjL> vsayikiran: i'm not using a laptop. i've got a USB dongle.
[03:28] <heguru> Innomen: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[03:28] <Innomen> i'll ahve to dl here and then move it over and burn it form within the live cd
[03:28] <Dan__> hello
[03:28] <barzini> ikonia: Yikes!
[03:28] <Innomen> because unless i can get this machine to boot i dont have a burner handy
[03:28] <heguru> Innomen: well you can boot it on a Floppy or USB disk as well
[03:29] <Innomen> oh peaches
[03:30] <Innomen> oky let me dl and install this
[03:30] <FF29> so
[03:30] <FF29> what does /bin/sh:cant access tty; job control turned off
[03:30] <FF29> mean
[03:31] <murlidhar> You have 1 broken package on your system!
[03:31] <murlidhar> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[03:31] <murlidhar> what do i do now
[03:32] <vsayikiran> LjL: i dont have this file in my pc "/etc/default/irda-utils"
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> murlidhar: run synaptic and choose the broken filter.
[03:32] <Sprog> What channel should I be on for help with Gutsy/Compiz?
[03:32] <FF29> um... what do u mean a broken package??
[03:32] <murlidhar> fyrestrtr: how?
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> murlidhar: by clicking on 'Broken'
[03:32] <benzs_s> sprog: #compiz and #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <Sprog> Thanks Ben
[03:33] <FF29> can you guys even see what im typing
[03:33] <ikonia> yes
[03:33] <FF29> ok
[03:33] <zuzzarell19> ciao
[03:33] <zuzzarell19> !list
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[03:33] <atlfalcons866> how can i use ext4
[03:34] <ikonia> atlfalcons866 you can't
[03:34] <atlfalcons866> why
[03:34] <ikonia> atlfalcons866 doesn't exist yet
[03:34] <LjL> vsayikiran: you should have it *after* installing 'irda-utils'
[03:34] <atlfalcons866> o
[03:34] <vsayikiran> LjL: ok
[03:34] <Innomen>  In order to use this archive you will have to run a linux or a linux live cd. Identify your usb pendrive device. (E.g. it is called /dev/sdc) Untar the file in the usb so that you see the folder boot in it. Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync
[03:34] <murlidhar> fyrestrtr: when i open synaptic it says it is running and i can't see in processess
[03:34] <Innomen> i havethe boot folder on the usb drive
[03:35] <Innomen> is it wanting me to paste that command into a temrinal and hit enter or is there short hand i'm missing
[03:35] <Innomen> like whats the $ mean at the front?
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> murlidhar: log out and log back in
[03:35] <murlidhar> brb
[03:35] <fyrestrtr> Innomen: $ is the prompt
[03:35] <Innomen> oky
[03:35] <trogdor> ikonia: is that your test site? http://www.ikonia.co.uk/
[03:35] <ikonia> trogdor no
[03:36] <ikonia> didn't even know that existed
[03:36] <trogdor> ikonia: oh it looked kinda kool so thought I'd ask
[03:36] <Innomen> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:36] <ikonia> trogdor nope, nothing to do with me
[03:36] <ikonia> and it does look handy
[03:36] <Innomen> i love it when things make assumptions
[03:36] <FF29> so what does  "/bin/sh:cant access tty; job control turned off" mean
[03:36] <heguru> Innomen: what did you type?
[03:37] <Innomen> "sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync"
[03:37] <mooper> Where can I get help on setting up my dual screen ubuntu machine? Im having problems understanding what I need to o
[03:37] <ikonia> Innomen hd3 won't exist
[03:37] <ikonia> Innomen you've only get 3 drives
[03:37] <Innomen> no no
[03:37] <mooper> and the howto's dont seem to be working too welll
[03:37] <ikonia> mooper #xorg
[03:37] <Innomen> diffrent machine i'm trying pt prepare a bootable usb drive for the supergrub app
[03:37] <ikonia> Innomen I see
[03:37] <Innomen> because this machine dosent have aburner
[03:38] <barzini> what grouping does gnome fall under in the lists of installed packages such as admin,base,devel doc stc. I am looking in apitude for the package but can't find it
[03:38] <Innomen> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download#usb
[03:38] <Innomen> you wanna help me with it?
[03:38] <ikonia> happy to help
[03:38] <ikonia> although I don't rate that product
[03:38] <Innomen> i dont understand what they mean by "Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync"
[03:38] <murlidhar> fyrestrtr: thnks now it's working my comical application was broken
[03:38] <ikonia> Innomen its an example command
[03:39] <Innomen> oky
[03:40] <Innomen> i'm not getting the example
[03:40] <Innomen> and theyre is no explanation of what that command does
[03:40] <Innomen> so i ahve no way of understanding the syntax
[03:40] <barzini> Innomen good luck. thanks ikonia later!
[03:40] <Innomen> thanky barzini :)
[03:40] <ikonia> Innomen its writing a boot sector to your usb stick
[03:40] <Innomen> ahhh
[03:40] <Woet> Why is my screen resolution maximum 1024 x 800? I want it bigger.
[03:41] <Innomen> so i need ot find out what my usb drive is first
[03:41] <heguru> Innomen: back, well yes
[03:41] <heguru> Innomen: where did you extract the files?
[03:41] <Innomen> /dev/sdb1
[03:41] <Innomen> i put them on the usb stick
[03:42] <therapy> Woet: you can change that in xorg.conf
[03:42] <Innomen> /dev/sdb1 is the jump drive
[03:42] <Innomen> so hold on
[03:42] <heguru> Innomen: ok
[03:42] <Woet> And where do i find xorg.conf ?
[03:42] <therapy> Woet: /etc/X11/
[03:42] <kane77> Woet, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:42] <heguru> Innomen: don't type sdb1 instead only sdb
[03:42] <Woet> thanks
[03:43] <Innomen> "robing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[03:43] <Innomen> "
[03:43] <Innomen> probing*
[03:43] <heguru> Innomen: booting from USB?
[03:43] <Innomen> i'm preparing too
[03:44] <fbn> hi, what is the default DB, user and pass on a postgresql installation on ubuntu?
[03:44] <Innomen> here is what i'm doing to run super grub from a jump drive because i cant burn a cd
[03:44] <Innomen> In order to use this archive you will have to run a linux or a linux live cd. Identify your usb pendrive device. (E.g. it is called /dev/sdc) Untar the file in the usb so that you see the folder boot in it. Open a terminal and type:  $ sudo grub grub> device (hd3) /dev/sdc grub> root (hd3,0) grub> setup (hd3) grub> quit $ sync
[03:44] <Innomen> from http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download#usb
[03:44] <Innomen> whew
[03:44] <heguru> Innomen: eys
[03:44] <Innomen> :P
[03:45] <heguru> Innomen: yes, just replace sdc with your usb drive
[03:45] <atompngn> heguru: wouldn't hd2 be mapped to his sdb; rather than hd3?
[03:46] <Innomen> i still dont under stand
[03:46] <Innomen> so knowing that just jump drive is /dev/sdb1 and i'm now at the grub prompt what should i type?
[03:46] <adlisyakir> hai
[03:46] <Innomen> you'll only have to do that for me once
[03:46] <heguru> Innomen: are you sure your usb is sdb1?
[03:46] <adlisyakir> /list
[03:47] <adlisyakir> hahaha
[03:47] <adlisyakir> nice.. i'm using ubuntu.. now
[03:47] <adlisyakir> :)
[03:47] <Innomen> according to sudo fdisk -l its the only fat32 drive
[03:47] <adlisyakir> thank for everyone which help me befire
[03:47] <heguru> Innomen: ok good
[03:47] <adlisyakir> thank for everyone which help me before
[03:47] <Innomen> i'm thinking so
[03:47] <Innomen> so, now what?
[03:48] <Innomen> i dont undestand the short hand
[03:48] <adlisyakir> hye.. how can i get something like yahoo messager to run on ubuntu
[03:48] <Innomen> i dont know wherer the exmaple ends and the real command begins
[03:48] <heguru> Innomen: one min
[03:48] <Innomen> oky
[03:48] <pixl> anyone know how to turn off dvd drive on my laptop to save power?
[03:48] <Grim76> adlisyakir: use gaim pidgin or kopete
[03:49] <papaya> Hi, is is possible to to download EclipseIDE for C/C++Developers and EclipseIDE for JavaDevelopers and extract them into the same folder to use them both ?
[03:49] <adlisyakir> Grim76 : how i can get it? can u get the code for terminal
[03:49] <Innomen> you can search it in add remove
[03:49] <Innomen> upper left applications
[03:49] <Grim76> adlisyakir: You probably have one of them already installed
[03:49] <Innomen> its at the bottom of the list
[03:49] <Innomen> yea it comes with gaim built in
[03:50] <adlisyakir> yeah... i will try it now.. wait
[03:50] <fbn> has anybody installed postgesql on ubuntu? how can I connect to the database with psql ?
[03:51] <heguru> Innomen: ok you are at the grub prompt?
[03:51] <Innomen> yes
[03:51] <akeem> hi
[03:51] <heguru> Innomen: type: device (hd3) /dev/sdb
[03:51] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> :) hello!
[03:51] <tich> is it possible to make sleep and hibernate work with nvidia?
[03:51] <heguru> Innomen: you ran grub with sudo right?
[03:51] <heguru> Innomen: sudo grub
[03:51] <Innomen> yes i did
[03:52] <akeem> how ur day
[03:52] <Innomen> command input back to prompt
[03:52] <heguru> Innomen: ok good
[03:52] <heguru> Innomen: type: root (hd3,0)
[03:52] <Innomen> command input back to prompt
[03:53] <akonkwamubagwa> Hello! I'm using xmms-shell and I would like to know wher I can find a list of the comands I can use via the terminal
[03:53] <heguru> Innomen: then: setup (hd3)
[03:53] <heguru> Innomen: then quit
[03:53] <shearn89> akonkwamubagwa: try "man xmms-shell"
[03:53] <akeem> good day lady
[03:53] <Innomen> ok
[03:53] <heguru> Innomen: on the prompt type: sudo sync
[03:53] <heguru> Innomen: now reboot and configure your bios to boot from USB
[03:53] <oasis> I can't stand any more
[03:53] <shearn89> oasis: ?
[03:53] <Innomen> both done
[03:53] <oasis> yes
[03:54] <Innomen> cool
[03:54] <oasis> I am a new learner
[03:54] <shearn89> oasis: can't stand what?
[03:54] <oasis> ha,i just make a joke
[03:54] <vmlinuz1> hi 4 all
[03:54] <adlisyakir> hye.. how to update my ubuntu
[03:54] <adlisyakir> ?
[03:54] <akeem> is there any sexy lady in the room today
[03:54] <oasis> I am a new linux learner
[03:54] <vmlinuz1> why thouchpad don't works? http://rafb.net/p/etCesS83.html
[03:54] <heguru> !ot | akeem
[03:54] <ubotu> akeem: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:54] <shearn89> adlisyakir: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal.
[03:55] <akeem> wat up
[03:55] <heguru> !ohmy | akeem
[03:55] <ubotu> akeem: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:55] <akeem> yeah'] 
[03:55] <oasis> sorry,I must go now
[03:55] <akonkwamubagwa> shearn89:  It doesn't seem to help, it does not describe any commands to play/pause or for volume control , or to pick a song, etc.
[03:55] <vmlinuz1> please help me .. :(
[03:55] <Innomen> ok suprer grub botted
[03:55] <akeem> wat new
[03:55] <Innomen> booted
[03:55] <shearn89> akonkwamubagwa: okay. try "xmms-shell --help"
[03:55] <king_> belgium?
[03:55] <Innomen> reading
[03:55] <heguru> Innomen: ok
[03:56] <vmlinuz1> i've done apt-get install tpconfig but nothins
[03:56] <vmlinuz1> any ideas?
[03:56] <vmlinuz1> *nothing
[03:56] <king_> belgium?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol, i see you all finally tried my super grub idea..lol
[03:56] <Innomen> i've goty a menu now
[03:56] <akeem> heguru u want to chat
[03:56] <shearn89> vmlinuz1: what do you mean nothing? are you back at the commadn prompt?
[03:56] <Innomen> anyone have an idea what i should be doing or should i experiment?
[03:56] <vmlinuz1> shearn89: no, thouchpad still don't works very well
[03:56] <king_> turkish people here
[03:56] <heguru> Innomen: you selected the language?
[03:56] <vmlinuz1> http://rafb.net/p/etCesS83.html <-- here errors shearn89
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: i've fumbled through grub, but never knew what i wa doing.
[03:57] <Innomen> yea
[03:57] <akeem> pick me then
[03:57] <heguru> Innomen: Next select Gnu/Linux
[03:57] <akonkwamubagwa> shearn89:  It gives me the same description as in the man pages. thanx anyways for the help
[03:57] <shearn89> vmlinuz1: okay hold on.
[03:57] <Innomen> oky selected
[03:57] <heguru> Innomen: next Fix Boot of Gnu/Linux
[03:57] <Innomen> i now see fix boot etc
[03:57] <king_> someone want to date for tonight in belgium
[03:57] <akeem> any lady there that is single
[03:57] <xiaujuin> tri_imut@yahoo.com
[03:57] <shearn89> vmlinuz1: what laptop are you using?
[03:58] <Innomen> oky
[03:58] <vmlinuz1> shearn89: acer aspire 5710
[03:58] <Innomen> selected
[03:58] <shearn89> !ot | king_
[03:58] <ubotu> king_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:58] <ikonia> !offtopic >akeem
[03:58] <heguru> Innomen: you have to select the partition where you originally installed grub
[03:58] <ikonia> !offtopic >king_
[03:58] <Innomen> oky
[03:58] <Innomen> only two options
[03:58] <akeem> yeah
[03:58] <king_> yes of course shearn
[03:58] <heguru> Innomen: what are the two options?
[03:59] <Innomen> the sata and the windows install
[03:59] <Innomen> i did the sata
[03:59] <heguru> Innomen: i believe your mbr is on the Windows Disk?
[03:59] <king_> i am from gent an you
[03:59] <ikonia> heguru they are the same disk
[03:59] <Lax> Hello. Anyone would know how to change permissions on my sdcard? i cant write to the card :(
[03:59] <ikonia> !offtopic > king_
[03:59] <Innomen> yes probably
[03:59] <Innomen> let me go back
[03:59] <heguru> Innomen: oh yeah ok
[04:00] <heguru> Innomen: so let it fix now and reboot
[04:00] <baggles> hi. how do i get the list of packages that have been requested to be installed... i mean a list excluding packages that are just installed because they're dependencies....
[04:01] <shearn89> vmlinuz1: does this work - http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/acer_aspire_5601AWLMi.html#synaptics
[04:01] <Innomen> guess what, error 22
[04:01] <xiaujuin> _imut@yahoo.com
[04:01] <akonkwamubagwa> does anyone here know how to use xmms via command line?
[04:01] <empemp> i can't get my compiz dektop to look so cool as they are in the youtube videos
[04:01] <heguru> Innomen: without the grub menu?
[04:01] <Innomen> without the menu
[04:01] <empemp> is there one program that can change all the settings tha i need?
[04:01] <empemp> instead of using different programs
[04:01] <wastrel> hi
[04:01] <Pici> xiaujuin: ?
[04:01] <heguru> ikonia: any idea if grub is installed on his SATA dis or PATA?
[04:01] <heguru> *disk
[04:02] <ikonia> amur [n=pramur@202.182.191.232]  has joined #ubuntu
[04:02] <ikonia> 15:21 < hegur sata
[04:02] <ikonia> heguru sata sorry
[04:02] <ikonia> heguru its a 140g sata disks with his windows and ubuntu partition on
[04:02] <ikonia> heguru the other two idea disks are encypted
[04:03] <Innomen> and invisable nothing sees them except windows
[04:03] <Innomen> not even the live cd
[04:03] <Innomen> i'll deal with that later
[04:03] <Innomen> lol
[04:03] <ikonia> Innomen if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" do you get anything back ?
[04:03] <rowdy> I lost admin privileges yesterday when i was trying to add myself to vboxusers group...i am unable to sudo..lost sound..admin menu doesnt show
[04:03] <LjL> baggles: cat  /var/lib/apt/extended_states
[04:03] <Innomen> is there anything in this boot and tools menu i could use?
[04:04] <rowdy> what are the default groups i shd add myself to
[04:04] <Innomen> i'd have to boot back into the live cd to check
[04:04] <kyja> WOW !! follow this if you like its for ubuntu forrum https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2302
[04:04] <Innomen> ghimmie a minute
[04:04] <heguru> Innomen: ok
[04:04] <baggles> i don't have that file, ljl. maybe i should say this is breezy.
[04:04] <rowdy> any idea
[04:04] <Innomen> booting into live cd
[04:04] <LjL> baggles: oh.
[04:04] <atlfalcons866> can i use reiserfs4
[04:05] <baggles> hrm
[04:05] <baggles> must be somewhere
[04:05] <jrib> rowdy: i am in (not all default): jrib adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data src video plugdev users netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin kvm davfs2 gnomedev vboxusers
[04:05] <Innomen> hey ikonia just for education what are you trying to accomplish
[04:05] <LjL> baggles: for the record, breezy is not supported anymore. anyway, breezy doesn't keep a record of which files were installed by you, and which were installed automatically (unless you're an aptitude user). the best you could do - but i'm unsure how - is to see which packages aren't dependencies of anything else that's installed.
[04:06] <baggles> ack. ok thanks ljl.
[04:06] <doktoreas> anyone knows how enable 1680x1050 on a Intel video card?
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> kyja: doesn't work for me
[04:06] <LjL> baggles: you could perhaps do it with deborphan or debfoster, somehow
[04:06] <rowdy> any idea how to add myself those...
[04:06] <rowdy> need to boot in linux single rt
[04:06] <kyja> oh. the link? or the plugin?
[04:06] <wang> Hi, all. Now I'am having a happy time with  Dapper on my IBM R50e. would you please tell me if I can have a smooth upgrade simply by replacing *dapper* with *gusty* in my source list? thanks
[04:06] <Lax> how to make sdcard writeable in ubuntu?
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> kyja: the plugin... it seems to have installed correctly, but i see no ubuntu men
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> menu
[04:07] <rowdy> is it usermod -G <the list  u gave> <my user name>
[04:07] <kyja> oh: :( perhaps it is a menu button to add or something I will check it out further and let you know.
[04:07] <IndyGunFreak> kyja: i don't see a menu button to add either.
[04:08] <LjL> baggles: i think   debfoster -n --show-orphans   might be it.
[04:08] <jrib> rowdy: no, you need to check which groups exist
[04:08] <rowdy> jrib: ofcourse
[04:10] <Nalleman> hi all. these n00b question again. how to enable java and mp3 support. thanx
[04:10] <Innomen> ikonia: yes it does, it comnes back with one of my 300s
[04:10] <shearn89> Nalleman: there's a thing about it in the wiki pages, because they're proprietary.... hold on.
[04:10] <shearn89> !mp3
[04:10] <Tomcat_> Nalleman: Install ubuntu-restricted-extras after enabling multiverse repo
[04:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <rowdy> jrib: after checking, is it usermod -G <the list> <my user name>
[04:11] <Innomen> did ya catch that ikonia?
[04:11] <ikonia> Innomen: thats good news, ubuntu can see your disks
[04:11] <minimec> Where do I change the default icon of a mimetype. After installation realPlayer changed the default icons for audio.
[04:11] <Innomen> indeed
[04:11] <Innomen> i musta have just over looked thenm or nt know what i was looking at
[04:11] <jrib> rowdy: yes, that is right.  In the future use -a with usermod or use adduser when adding groups
[04:11] <rowdy> oh
[04:11] <rowdy> Thanks!! jrib
[04:11] <Innomen> so now that i'm back in the live cd, where were we? lol
[04:11] <Innomen> since the menu got hosed, should i try to fix that?
[04:12] <rowdy> will let u know if it worked fine
[04:12] <adlisyakir> i can play mp3 file in ubuntu?
[04:13] <dgjones> !mp3 | adlisyakir
[04:13] <ubotu> adlisyakir: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:13] <shearn89> beaten to it...
[04:13] <Innomen> its easier to just type yes
[04:13] <deadlock> Hello everyone.  How can I make it so that my Mint install can see all of my shared drives on my server. I have 5, it onlyt sees 4. My XP install inside Vbox sees all 5 :-(
[04:13] <Innomen> yes you vcan play mp3s
[04:13] <kyja> adlisyakir, yes but the ability is not out of the box because it is restricted drivers.
[04:13] <e\ectro_> For those that have Ubuntu talking to their OpenLDAP servers...  did you have to create all the local ubuntu groups in ldap with their low GID and add users? Or is there a better approach?
[04:14] <shearn89> deadlock: one of the drives might be ntfs, in which case you'll have to install ntfs-3g
[04:14] <Innomen> i'm gunna start over i think
[04:14] <shearn89> !ntfs | deadlock
[04:14] <ubotu> deadlock: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:17] <iamtim> I just installed Feisty i386. It installed fine, but when i enabled the ATI driver and rebooted it stops at a black screen instead of starting X
[04:17] <iamtim> any ideas?
[04:17] <m0nk3ysh1n3> I've never had that problem. Did you check the forum out?
[04:17] <Innomen> are there any objections to me starting over?
[04:18] <iamtim> i looked at the forum, nothing suggested there helped
[04:18] <Innomen> i've learned a great deal and i'm content with the situation
[04:18] <noelferreira> where can i find this lib file: libcrypto.so-0.9.7
[04:18] <brownie17> cna anyone tell me why the only player that can even play .RM files is mplayer and when it does the audio is always out of sync with the video?
[04:18] <Nalleman>  ok, so the mp3 issue should be able to fix with w32codecs, but what about java?
[04:18] <ikonia> Innomen its certainly an unusual situation
[04:19] <Innomen> if ireproduce it i'll be back
[04:19] <Pici> noelferreira: libssl-dev
[04:19] <kyja> ok the forrum plugin is a right click contextual menu, also the preferences of it can be changed in the menu: tools>addons for adding a menu to toolbar
[04:19] <Innomen> you should sleep lol
[04:19] <Innomen> i have errands to run
[04:19] <noelferreira> thank soici
[04:19] <sonetre> my installation failed at 94% during grub install! Is there anything else installed AFTER that?
[04:19] <Innomen> but before i go i'm gunna start a reinstall
[04:19] <ikonia> Innomen ok
[04:19] <Innomen> thank you for your help ikonia and heguru and others
[04:20] <noelferreira> Pici, i have libssl-dev alreay installed
[04:20] <noelferreira> shoul i reinstall it Pici ?
[04:21] <Starcraftmazter> hey guys
[04:21] <ikonia> Innomen your welcome, I'm just sad it was such a pain to work with
[04:21] <Innomen> i'm looking at the gnome parition tool
[04:21] <Starcraftmazter> in 7.10, with compiz, when I rotate desktop, the taskbar still have the applications from the 1st desktop in each othe the others - anyone know how to fix that?
[04:21] <Innomen> how do i remerge the freespace with the old windows partition?
[04:21] <Pici> noelferreira: It depends what you are trying to do.  fy, 0.9.8 is the libssl version in feisty.
[04:22] <Pici> Starcraftmazter: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[04:22] <noelferreira> yes Pici that's it
[04:22] <ikonia> Innomen ghgs a bit tricky
[04:22] <sparsec> anyone running gutsy with a rt2500 based wireless?
[04:22] <ikonia> Innomen you can have corruption doing that
[04:22] <noelferreira> so can i install version 0.9.7 ?
[04:22] <ikonia> !gusty >sparsec
[04:22] <Pici> noelferreira: Why do you want a lower version?
[04:22] <sparsec> ikonia: sorry, thought this is #ubuntu+1
[04:22] <Starcraftmazter> right
[04:22] <noelferreira> that's because a script needs that lib Pichu0102
[04:22] <noelferreira> that's because a script needs that lib Pici
[04:22] <m0nk3ysh1n3> #ubuntu+1
[04:23] <m0nk3ysh1n3> ?
[04:23] <Innomen> i figured it out
[04:23] <Innomen> thank you
[04:23] <Starcraftmazter> m0nk3ysh1n3, it's another channel
[04:23] <atlfalcons866> how can i change ext3s journal mode
[04:23] <noelferreira> Pici,  error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:23] <deadlock> Any ideas on why I can see all my shared drives on my server inside VBOX with aXP install, but I cant on my main linux OS.
[04:23] <Pici> noelferreira: What are you trying to compile?
[04:24] <brownie17> i just got the error 'the playback of this video requires a RealVideo 4.0 codec which is not installed' where can i get this
[04:24] <noelferreira> nothing, it is already compiled, it is ragegast running script.
[04:24] <sonetre> ubuntu installation failed at 94% during grub install! Is there anything else installed AFTER that?
[04:24] <ldrada> FUCK!
[04:24] <doktoreas> anyone can please take a look at this? http://rafb.net/p/si8sIP92.html
[04:24] <ikonia> !ops
[04:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:25] <ikonia> ldrada totally uncalled for
[04:25] <doktoreas> using the gui i haven't got that resolution
[04:25] <jrib> !langauge | ldrada
[04:25] <ubotu> ldrada: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <ldrada> ikonia: This is the biggest IRC channel I've ever been on, except for #emule...
[04:25] <noelferreira> Pici, can i just installerd o.0.7 librarys without mess up the 0..9.8 ones?
[04:25] <ikonia> ldrada so ?
[04:25] <ldrada> Sorry, I meant to say "Oh, darn" :)
[04:25] <ikonia> ldrada that language is TOTALLY uncalled for
[04:25] <Innomen> lol
[04:25] <Nalleman> Well, now i have installed w32codecs but amarok clames that no mp3 support is added. any hints?
[04:25] <Innomen> overwhelming isnt it
[04:26] <ldrada> Very overwhelming.
[04:26] <Pici> noelferreira: Theres no reason that it should specifically require the .7 libraries.  The .8 ones should work just fine.
[04:26] <brownie17> i just got the error 'the playback of this video requires a RealVideo 4.0 codec which is not installed' where can i get this?
[04:26] <Innomen> most are lurkers
[04:26] <brownie17> i have googled it but have found no answers
[04:26] <Innomen> like 20 people talk at any given time
[04:26] <noelferreira> Pici, the question is if i can have both?
[04:26] <ldrada> Totally insane. How can you even keep track of any conversation?
[04:26] <noelferreira> ok
[04:27] <noelferreira> problem resolved Pici
[04:27] <Innomen> you get usta it really quick actually
[04:27] <Tomcat_> ldrada: By prefixing msgs with a nickname.
[04:27] <Innomen> just mentally filter out join/parts
[04:27] <Innomen> bbl
[04:27] <ldrada> Tomcat_: Makes sense.
[04:27] <volantares> hello all
[04:28] <hammer123> how do i install realplayer using apt-get?
[04:28] <LjL> !real > hammer123    (hammer123, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:28] <hammer123> thanks
[04:28] <brownie17> !Real > brownie17
[04:28] <king_> hello
[04:28] <king_> hallo ubuntu
[04:29] <LjL> king_: hi. do you have a support question?
[04:29] <king_> di bonjour oo  micro
[04:29] <LjL> king_: a support question in english, specifically.
[04:29] <ikonia> king_ are you going to start talking random again, or do you have a question related to ubuntu
[04:29] <king_> i like to chat wanne date for tonight
[04:29] <ikonia> same again then
[04:29] <volantares> ah hi ikonia
[04:29] <ikonia> thanks LjL
[04:29] <ikonia> volantares: ahh hi
[04:30] <volantares> ikonia: how's things
[04:30] <ikonia> volantares: not great today, I'm exausted and want to go to bed
[04:30] <ikonia> volantares: apologies for keep missing you, I finished the tests
[04:30] <Innomen> i wore her out
[04:30] <volantares> ikonia: yeah? how did it go?
[04:31] <ikonia> volantares: there is no way to mount the windows volumes as the windows stripe is contained within the disk, and assembled by the OS, so without windows booting the stripe never gets built
[04:31] <hammer123> LjL - i dun understand the description on how to install real player...
[04:31] <volantares> ikonia: oh ok.. well that's a problem
[04:31] <LjL> hammer123: which part?
[04:32] <rowdy> jrib: it worked..everythings bac to normal
[04:32] <volantares> ikonia: I think I'll dump the raid
[04:32] <rowdy> jrib: thanks a bunch
[04:32] <ikonia> volantares, sorry about that, I did some good tests though and worked with a guy who is very strong with windows and we couldn't assemble the drives without the windows OS being booted
[04:32] <hammer123> everything...can u just tell me the command to install it?
[04:32] <neopsyche> Hello ubunturs
[04:32] <joe-f> I'm running ubuntu fiesty, and am trying to downgrade to php5.1* from php5.2 - How can I check what versions of php are available with apt-get?
[04:33] <neopsyche> is feisty the best release?
[04:33] <LjL> hammer123: no. there is not a single command, besides. please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods carefully and come back with a *specific* question on the part you don't understand.
[04:33] <ikonia> joe-f apt-cache and the policy option.
[04:33] <LjL> !best > neopsyche    (neopsyche, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:33] <ganes1> ikonia:my 'D' drive is write protected...how can i make it writable??
[04:33] <volantares> does anyone know when the latest build will come out in october?
[04:33] <neopsyche> ok
[04:33] <neopsyche> LjL
[04:33] <ikonia> ganes1 is it ntfs ?
[04:33] <brownie17> what is the prefix for system wide symbolic links?
[04:34] <ikonia> volantares 18th
[04:34] <neopsyche> Can i run programs for linux off a seperate hard drive
[04:34] <LjL> brownie17: prefix? system wide links?
[04:34] <neopsyche> ?
[04:34] <ikonia> brownie17 how do you have a system wide symbolic link ?
[04:34] <ikonia> neopsyche yes
[04:34] <neopsyche> In other words.. have main linux install .. on one hard drive and run programs off another
[04:34] <neopsyche> hmm
[04:34] <neopsyche> cool
[04:34] <lauriexxx> hi guys, anybody got a good chan for jahshaka?
[04:34] <brownie17> ikonia, LjL, i have no idea what i'm talking about. installing realplayer it asked for it or something. it suggest /usr
[04:34] <ikonia> neopsyche yes, you can
[04:34] <LjL> neopsyche: doesn't sound like a good idea. you can certainly put /usr as a partition on a separate drive.
[04:34] <neopsyche> is it easy to do
[04:34] <l123e> hi, i have an old laptop, i want to install ubuntu, but i can't boot from cd or USB, it can only boot from floppy,
[04:34] <neopsyche> I have an 8gig drive
[04:34] <ikonia> lauriexxx not here
[04:34] <neopsyche> big enough for ubuntu
[04:35] <l123e> can anyone help me make a floppy boot disc for ubuntu
[04:35] <LjL> brownie17: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods for installing realplayer.
[04:35] <neopsyche> but i have another 250gig on the way
[04:35] <brownie17> ikonia, LjL " configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : .y."
[04:35] <neopsyche> would it seriously hurt my system to run the ubuntu install off the 8
[04:35] <brownie17> LjL, did read it, it didn't go inot specifics on this
[04:35] <ikonia> brownie17 ahh the real player script
[04:35] <neopsyche> and have programs on the 350?
[04:35] <Vissu> irc.freenode.net
[04:35] <Lax> whats the name of the app that display system stats on the desktop??
[04:35] <neopsyche> *250
[04:35] <Ketzu> Hey guys, which package do I need to install to get "javac" ? O_o
[04:35] <ikonia> neopsyche it can be done a few ways
[04:35] <ikonia> Ketzu jave development kit
[04:35] <LjL> !smartbootmanager > l123e    (l123e, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:35] <neopsyche> is it easier to just run everything off the main drive?
[04:36] <ikonia> neopsyche not really
[04:36] <lauriexxx> ikonia: ok what about any program you could recomend for editing .avi?
[04:36] <LjL> brownie17, which method did you use to install?
[04:36] <neopsyche> what is optimal for a system i want to use as multimedia/video editing.
[04:36] <neopsyche> gigs?
[04:36] <ikonia> lauriexxx no idea
[04:36] <volantares> ikonia: so presuming i get rid of the RAID, what do you recommend as far as me designing my systems?
[04:36] <brownie17> LjL, downloaded the .bin from the website. i think i've got it sorted now. thanks for your help
[04:36] <neopsyche> ikonia .. not easer to run off the main drive?
[04:36] <ikonia> neopsyche optimal ?
[04:36] <ikonia> neopsyche not really no,
[04:36] <LjL> neopsyche: the 8 gig drive is probably slow.
[04:36] <neopsyche> well....
[04:36] <neopsyche> would it be ok to run the programs from a seperate drive
[04:36] <neopsyche> yeah
[04:36] <LjL> brownie17, that seems like a bad idea though, why didn't you use the packages?
[04:36] <neopsyche> perhaps it is
[04:36] <ikonia> neopsyche thats fine
[04:36] <neopsyche> let me check
[04:37] <LjL> !enter
[04:37] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:37] <GNine> just tried my copy of Xubuntu 7.10 .  installation failure.  it just  hung up on a blank screen after the installation menu ,  tried 3 times.  even the OEM install option failed.  the "check for errors" option had returned no errors
[04:37] <neopsyche> where do i see how fast my drive is?
[04:37] <LjL> neopsyche: sudo hdpartm -Tt /dev/whatever
[04:38] <LjL> hdparm even
[04:38] <Lax> no one knows how to get pc stats on the gnome desktop?
[04:38] <volantares> GNine: hung or just remains blank? have you tried setting a vga mode?
[04:38] <ganes1> ikonia:ya..its ntfs
[04:38] <doktoreas> hello everybody..the monitor resolution from preference is taken from xorg.conf ?
[04:38] <neopsyche> naah... im using the live cd while chatting to you .. would it still pick it up?
[04:38] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g >ganes1
[04:38] <LjL> neopsyche: why not
[04:38] <volantares> GNine: I have a nvidia 8800 and I had to set a vga mode to begin with for it to boot
[04:38] <Ketzu> ugh
[04:38] <brownie17> LjL, because i'm retarded
[04:38] <GNine> i booted fine .
[04:38] <Ketzu> I simply cannot get SQLite working with java >.>
[04:38] <LjL> neopsyche: use sdparm if the drive is called /dev/sdsomething, though, hdparm if it's called /dev/hdsomething
[04:39] <ganes1> ikonia:I din't get u..
[04:39] <LjL> brownie17: that seems a bit extreme. just remember to *always* use a package when one is available, next time.
[04:39] <neopsyche> hd.. command not found
[04:39] <volantares> GNine: btw, 7.10 questions should go to #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <ikonia> ganes1 check the pm ubutu sent you
[04:39] <GNine> maybe i should try the live cd version to update.
[04:39] <LjL> neopsyche: sudo apt-get install hdparm
[04:39] <neopsyche> I like xchat
[04:40] <neopsyche> live cd doesnt come with xchat
[04:40] <marcela> anyone knows a guide how to install plugins on Compiz-Fusion (I miss the cubecap plugin for example) ?
[04:40] <qwerkus> Is this the right place to ask for some help with ubuntu distros ?
[04:40] <neopsyche> sure is
[04:40] <GNine> i know that, volantares , that wasnt a question either, it was a statement
[04:40] <LjL> qwerkus: it's called #ubuntu, my instinct says yes.
[04:40] <brownie17> LjL, sure thing
[04:40] <neopsyche> this place is primarily for ubuntu though.. kubuntu etc... have their own channels
[04:40] <gerzon> hi
[04:40] <qwerkus> k
[04:41] <surja> hi
[04:41] <gerzon> hi surja
[04:41] <qwerkus> got some problems with read-only partitions
[04:41] <marcela> anyone knows a guide how to install plugins on Compiz-Fusion (I miss the cubecap plugin for example) ?
[04:41] <surja> got problem with mounting a dvd
[04:41] <FF29> iv got an interesting problem when i go to install linux or just run the live install cd for that matter
[04:42] <FF29> the splah screen comes up for a min then i get an error that read
[04:42] <ganes1> ya..thanks ikonia
[04:42] <redguy_work> hi
[04:43] <FF29> "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[04:43] <atlfalcons866> is it safe to install kde on top of gnome
[04:43] <LjL> Nalleman: the w32codecs have nothing to do with playing mp3
[04:43] <LjL> !mp3 > Nalleman    (Nalleman, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:43] <LjL> Nalleman: specifically, for amarok, you will need to install the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[04:43] <bpssoft> Hello
[04:43] <Nalleman> LjL, thanx but i solved it
[04:43] <gerzon> anyone knows install saa7134 ..??
[04:43] <bpssoft> Does Ubuntu have support for Tabblad PCs?
[04:44] <volantares> it's easier to install linux second after vista, right?
[04:44] <LjL> i don't *think* so
[04:44] <surja> can help with mounting a data dvd disc?
[04:44] <LjL> volantares: yes
[04:44] <brownie17> does anyone know if it's possible to use mencoder to make ipod compatible videos? the userdoc page only shows ffmpeg, but the videos i'm trying to convert aren't in an ffmpeg compatible format, and it's a pain to convert with mencoder to something ffmpeg can use, and then into something the ipod can use
[04:44] <bpssoft> And for touchscreen?
[04:44] <GNine> neopsyche, you should go read  help.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <gerzon> hi surja ... what is your problem..?
[04:44] <atlfalcons866> #kubuntu
[04:44] <FF29> ok i give up
[04:45] <cyph3r> wow
[04:45] <LjL> bpssoft: i can see there are drivers for some touchscreens.
[04:45] <surja> ok i burned this data dvd using nero on win xp
[04:45] <surja> its a sony dvd-r media
[04:45] <bpssoft> Also for the ASUS R2H?
[04:45] <LjL> !find touchscreen | bpssoft
[04:45] <surja> there are some data files and a divx movie
[04:45] <ubotu> bpssoft: Package/file touchscreen does not exist in feisty
[04:45] <surja> burned on a Liteon DVD writer
[04:45] <neopsyche> I like ubuntu... i think im going to install it on the 8 gig anyway :-)
[04:46] <neopsyche> ;-)
[04:46] <LjL> bpssoft: well, there are some packages anyway. at least in gutsy.
[04:46] <neopsyche> another question
[04:46] <Innomen> whatsd does the "location for new partition" matter?
[04:46] <bpssoft> Ok, that is the new version LjL?
[04:46] <atlfalcons866> is it safe to install kde on top of gnome
[04:46] <LjL> bpssoft: it's not yet released.
[04:46] <neopsyche> can i actually add a hard drive and just "detect hardware" after i have done the install?
[04:46] <surja> now when i use it on Ubuntu on an LG DVD writer, the disc isnt detected
[04:46] <Pici> atlfalcons866: If you mean KDE on a system that Gnome is on, then yes.
[04:47] <atlfalcons866> ok
[04:47] <Pici> atlfalcons866: There is already a metapackage for that too, called kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <atlfalcons866> will anything bad happen"
[04:47] <neopsyche> is there an osx skin for gnome?
[04:47] <Pici> atlfalcons866: Nope.
[04:47] <atlfalcons866> because gnome is striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do.
[04:47] <Pici> neopsyche: perhaps. check on http://gnome-look.org
[04:48] <neopsyche> thanks pici
[04:48] <gerzon> use  ----> sudo mount
[04:48] <surja> the message that i get when i try to mount it from Filesystem is 'unable to mount media from drive' and 'There is probably no media in the drive'
[04:48] <gerzon> and parameters..
[04:48] <neopsyche> is it easy to add a harddrive to an ubuntu install after already installed/? will it auto detect it?
[04:48] <dgjones> LjL, was it "MagicTouch" you were looking for, i remember somebody looking at that when asking about a touch screen
[04:48] <surja> the dvd disc works fine on win XP
[04:48] <jfly_> hi everyone
[04:48] <FF29> falcon couldnt u just use kubuntu
[04:48] <barbie> i want grub to give me options to select OS directly, instead of showing a screen where it boots to default in 3 secs
[04:48] <gerzon> surja ---------> use   ... mount
[04:49] <atlfalcons866> FF29: i want to try kubuntu
[04:49] <surja> ok..trying it
[04:49] <neopsyche> would be nice if there was an option to set what gui a user wishes to use.
[04:49] <LjL> dgjones: nope what i've seen is a few xorg drivers... specifically xserver-xorg-input-elo2300 xserver-xorg-input-evtouch xserver-xorg-input-palmax. don't know what magictouch is
[04:49] <dgjones> LjL, np, thought it was worth mentioning just in case
[04:50] <surja> gerzon -> this is what I get 'mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only'
[04:50] <brownie17> anyone heard of 2bppconv?
[04:50] <LjL> dgjones: ah yes, it's another driver. so bpssoft, the ones above, plus xserver-xorg-input-magictouch might be what you want.
[04:50] <qwerkus> i got into troubles after upgrade to kernel 2.6.20-15 (from 2.6.17-11)
[04:50] <qwerkus> every partition seems to be mounted as read_only
[04:50] <qwerkus> (gives that error when i try to create a file)
[04:50] <qwerkus> although mount show some nice (rw) in its summary
[04:50] <qwerkus> any help would be appreciated...
[04:50] <surja> but it still show any files
[04:50] <gerzon> surja ---------->  mount /dev/hdd  /media/cdrom0
[04:50] <atlfalcons866>  will kbuntu 7.10 have apparmor or is that an ubuntu thing
[04:50] <surja> gerzon -> trying it
[04:51] <gerzon> surja ->                sudo  mount /dev/hdd  /media/cdrom0
[04:51] <qwerkus> I know there was a similar thread on the forum, but can't recall the solution ...
[04:51] <surja> trying it out
[04:51] <brownie17> does anyone know if it is possible to make ipod compatible videos with mencoder?
[04:52] <gerzon> what are you using ubuntu 7.04..?
[04:52] <ikonia> brownie17 don't think so
[04:52] <surja> yes
[04:52] <jrib> !ipod > brownie17 (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:52] <hammer123> what is hxplay?
[04:52] <surja> gerzon -> this is what i get 'mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist'
[04:53] <kyja> wow I love that firefox ubuntu forrum plugin !!!!!!!!!!
[04:53] <brownie17> jrib, doesn't mention mencoder once
[04:53] <gerzon> surja ---->   insert your dvd....... and  later  in terminal .. write mount ....you will see
[04:54] <gerzon> surja --> you see the device ..... my dvd .. is /dev/hbb
[04:54] <hammer123> what other plugins i can install for playing real player video/audio in firefox besides realplayer's?
[04:54] <Tomcat_> hammer123: mozilla-mplayer I believe
[04:54] <surja> trying it
[04:55] <hammer123> ok let me try it
[04:55] <vsayikiran> why does output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address
[04:55] <ZmaX> Hi all. If I open System Monitor in Ubuntu, why are there a lot of processes marked as "Stopped" ? Thanks :)
[04:55] <jrib> brownie17: it does tell you how convert videos though
[04:55] <brownie17> jrib, yes thankyou, i know how to do that. ffmpeg is unsuitable for my purpose
[04:55] <neopsyche> so how do i add another harddrive in feisty?
[04:55] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address
[04:56] <neopsyche> also... how do i make my programs install to another hard drive?
[04:56] <soundray> I'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?
[04:56] <neopsyche> is it possible to have two linux installations?
[04:56] <ikonia> neopsyche yes
[04:56] <neopsyche> one to mess around with and possibly mess up...
[04:56] <neopsyche> and one for stability.
[04:57] <neopsyche> so .. on grub it will say.. this or that installation?
[04:57] <peepsalot> when I log in to a shell, it now tells me I have new mail, but I don't even know what it's talking about.  I only use gmail
[04:57] <neopsyche> lol
[04:57] <neopsyche> :mail
[04:57] <surja> gerzon -> not getting any entry for the dvd drive
[04:57] <neopsyche> /server irc.blabber.net
[04:57] <peepsalot> and it pauses for a long time after telling me I have mail, before giving me the prompt
[04:57] <ZmaX> ikonia: can you help me?
[04:58] <neopsyche> hmmm this irc client doesnt take commands from here.
[04:58] <vsayikiran> magnetron: the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign pc belongs
[04:58] <ikonia> ZmaX with what ?
[04:58] <surja> how do i find which on is my dvd drive?
[04:58] <peepsalot> i tried to remove evolution packages recently cause I didn't think I needed any of them, could it be related to that?
[04:58] <ZmaX> ikonia: If I open System Monitor in Ubuntu, why are there a lot of processes marked as "Stopped" ? Thanks :)
[04:58] <ZmaX> ikonia: even old ones
[04:58] <qwerkus> Hi, all:
[04:58] <qwerkus> I got into troubles after upgrade to kernel 2.6.20-15 (from 2.6.17-11)
[04:58] <qwerkus> every partition seems to be mounted as read_only
[04:58] <qwerkus> (gives that error when i try to create a file)
[04:58] <qwerkus> although mount show some nice (rw) in its summary
[04:58] <qwerkus> any help would be appreciated...
[04:58] <gerzon> surja ---> find any word .... cdrom----  use mount
[04:58] <atlfalcons866> is 12Gb enough for ubuntu
[04:58] <Tomcat_> atlfalcons866: Yes.
[04:58] <soundray> atlfalcons866: yes
[04:58] <surja> ok
[04:58] <ikonia> ZmaX some maybe swapped out
[04:59] <Tomcat_> atlfalcons866: 5 GB will be enough if you don't have any personal data ;)
[04:59] <ZmaX> ikonia: what I have to do in this case?
[04:59] <surja> in fstab, it is listed as scd0 ... do i use that with mount?
[04:59] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs
[04:59] <Veinor> is there any way to change the default size of the GNOME filepicker dialogs? When I open them, they're usually so small I can barely see anything. for example: http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd239/veinor/?action=view&current=Screenshot-SaveImage.png
[04:59] <ikonia> ZmaX nothing ?
[04:59] <atlfalcons866> i have a / that 12GB and /home that 134Gb and /swap with 933MB
[04:59] <soundray> ZmaX: you don't have to do anything. Your machine is fine.
[04:59] <Tomcat_> atlfalcons866: Should easily be enough.
[04:59] <gerzon> surja ---> example:   gerzon@gerzon-desktop:~$ mount
[04:59] <gerzon> /dev/hdb8 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:59] <gerzon> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[04:59] <gerzon> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[04:59] <gerzon> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[05:00] <gerzon> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:00] <gerzon> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[05:00] <gerzon> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:00] <dgjones> !paste | gerzon
[05:00] <ubotu> gerzon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:00] <gerzon> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:00] <gerzon> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:00] <Veinor> it's really annoying me because I have to resize it every single time.
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hdb7 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[05:00] <atlfalcons866> is it normal for ext3 to use 5% of my hdd
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hda2 on /media/hda2 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hdb5 on /media/hdb5 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[05:00] <gerzon> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[05:00] <gerzon> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)
[05:00] <gerzon> gerzon@gerzon-desktop:~$
[05:00] <Pici> !paste | gerzon
[05:00] <ZmaX> ikonia: for example I had aptitude "swapped out" and I cannot run another one..
[05:00] <sitaram> does anyone know if there is a way to get the entire install DVD but in CD-sized chunks for people who don't have or can't use a DVD-writer? quick hints or pointers appreciated!
[05:00] <Pici> gerzon: Please use the pastebin next time!
[05:00] <gerzon> surja --> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)
[05:00] <Tomcat_> sitaram: What's the point? Just use the CD then. ;)
[05:01] <surja> ok..trying that
[05:01] <gerzon> ok.... perdon me please .. i
[05:01] <ikonia> ZmaX its probably not closed and miniised on your task bar
[05:01] <Tomcat_> sitaram: If you need additional packages and the machines don't have net access, there are ways around that.
[05:01] <sitaram> Tomcat_, the thing is, I want to take pretty much the whole darn DVD to my dad's PC, but he has no connectivity, and no DVD-reader :-)
[05:01] <ZmaX> ikonia: I was using only one bash
[05:01] <david003> hello. where can i see what version of ubuntu i am using?
[05:01] <bazzieb> hi there, what is the best web development software to use with UBUNTU??
[05:01] <LjL> !version > david003    (david003, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:01] <sitaram> and one CD wont do -- there's stuff I need from the net always!
[05:02] <neopsyche> does ubuntu come with vlc standard?
[05:02] <aata> hello all... i have a question. anyone interested?
[05:02] <ikonia> ZmaX kill the process
[05:02] <__mikem> How long till the next version comes out?
[05:02] <soundray> Veinor: you can use devilspie to automatically resize windows according to rules you define.
[05:02] <LjL> neopsyche: no, you have to install it. enable universe and  sudo apt-get install vlc 
[05:02] <Pici> !ask | aata
[05:02] <ubotu> aata: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:02] <dgjones> !anyone | aata
[05:02] <ubotu> aata: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:02] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs
[05:02] <sitaram> Tomcat_, "take...to my dad's PC" is a one-night train trip away -- hence the need to take everything I can i one shot!
[05:02] <soundray> david003: cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:02] <Tomcat_> sitaram: I wouldn't know any way... but synaptic can create scripts to download packages on a different PC.
[05:02] <neopsyche> aata.. people generally tell me to just ask the question when i say things like that.
[05:02] <Tomcat_> sitaram: Oh, all right...
[05:02] <aata> ok... how do i find out if i have bluetooth enabled in feisty
[05:02] <aata> ?
[05:02] <Tomcat_> sitaram: Is there an OS on the PC?
[05:02] <Veinor> soundray: ok, but it seems like this would be a setting somewhere, plus it'd be a pain to add a rule for 'all windows titled save image or load image or save document etc.'
[05:03] <aata> is there a utility of some sort?
[05:03] <ZmaX> ikonia: yes, but do you think that killing the process I solve the major problem that there are some processes "Stopped" or "swapped out"
[05:03] <Lorvija> hiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?
[05:03] <LjL> aata: is the "bluetooth" package installed?  apt-cache policy bluetooth 
[05:03] <skar> hi, i'm running feisty on a core 2 duo, and my resolv.conf is getting overwritten, saying its managed by network-manager, but i've set the dns in network manager, and its in "/etc/network/interfaces" but its not loaded
[05:03] <neopsyche> aata .. probably, what do you want to use your blue tooth for?
[05:03] <Veinor> er, ok, nvm, this seems to be a firefox-only thing.
[05:03] <sitaram> Tomcat_, yes, right now Mandriva
[05:03] <dgjones> !bluetooth | aata
[05:03] <ubotu> aata: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:03] <skar> if i set it manually in /etc/resolv.conf, dns works again, any fixes to this problem?
[05:03] <hammer123> cool...thanks Tomcat, mplayer works...
[05:03] <Tomcat_> hammer123: Great. :)
[05:04] <LjL> skar: my *own* fix is removing network-manager and resolvconf. can't say it's a recommended fix.
[05:04] <aata> it says installed: none, LjL
[05:04] <LjL> aata: then  apt-get install bluetooth , and then follow the page you were given
[05:04] <skar> LjL: so u too faced the same/similar problem with their working properly?
[05:04] <Tomcat_> sitaram: In that case, use the "split" command to split the DVD into many chunks, transport them over on CDs, re-assemble them... and then mount it via loopback (so you don't need a DVD at all)
[05:04] <bazzieb> what is the recomended web dev program i should use on UBUNTU??
[05:04] <mowen> Hi all - having problems installing to a notebook... I get past the Ubuntu launch screen and all goes black - I tried to press F6 to edit out the "splash screen" as someone on here advised but still doesn't work
[05:04] <soundray> Veinor: this shouldn't be. Consider filing a bug
[05:04] <Tomcat_> bazzieb: I guess nvu is one.
[05:04] <soundray> !bugs | Veinor
[05:04] <ubotu> Veinor: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:05] <bazzieb> nvu?
[05:05] <LjL> skar: yes. honestly, given my own setup (desktop computer, one single ethernet card, static configuration) i don't see the need for any of those packages.
[05:05] <Bassxman1> i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?
[05:05] <bazzieb> where do i get it?
[05:05] <jport> bazzieb: Quanta+ is pretty good
[05:05] <soundray> mowen: how long have you waited at the black screen?
[05:05] <ZmaX> bazzieb: try also Geany or eclipse
[05:05] <dgjones> !nvu | bazzieb
[05:05] <aata> may i ask what exactly this bluetooth package does, LjL?
[05:05] <ubotu> bazzieb: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[05:05] <surja> gerzon -> when i mount the drive from the terminal, the drive lights turn on and the it seems that the drive is mounting
[05:05] <skar> LjL: ok i'm going that way too then :) thanks for the help
[05:05] <LjL> aata: installs the bluetooth stack.
[05:05] <sitaram> Tomcat_, thanks -- that sounds like it would work, I think dad has enough plenty free disk anyway
[05:05] <aata> aah.
[05:05] <neopsyche> what are you going to user the bluetooth for?
[05:06] <mowen> a long time - for instance 5 minutes longer than it takes to finish loading Ubuntu on my desktop
[05:06] <bazzieb> thanks guys, helpful as always
[05:06] <Tomcat_> sitaram: Problem is that when you install Ubuntu this way you'd still need an install CD and a partition on *some* hard drive for the DVD image.
[05:06] <Tomcat_> sitaram: But I can't think of another way.
[05:06] <ZmaX> bazzieb: for web developing I use Quanta Plus, it is fine :D
[05:06] <surja> but when i double click the CD/DVD drive icon from the Filesystem, nothing happens
[05:06] <sitaram> Tomcat_, thats OK I can take an install CD along...
[05:07] <soundray> mowen: have you tried the Safe Graphics option?
[05:07] <mowen> yes
[05:07] <mowen> maybe I didn't "edit" the splash properly
[05:07] <mowen> I press F6 and just delete those words
[05:07] <sitaram> Tomcat_, some time ago, when I was still on Mandriva, I know they had a set of 5 or 6 CD images, and you could concatenate them to make a DVD image!  Separately they would be CD's, combined, one dvd -- sounded awesome (and unbelievable)
[05:07] <mowen> The couple words "yadda yadda splash"
[05:08] <Tomcat_> sitaram: Might be possible. :)
[05:08] <soundray> mowen: try the F6, remove "quiet splash" and try vga=771
[05:08] <mowen> then I hit enter
[05:08] <Bassxman1> i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?
[05:08] <david003> hello. how can i see what the F1-F12 buttons are assigned to?
[05:08] <soundray> mowen: it's also possible that it's not a graphics problem at all, in which case you should try inserting "noapic"
[05:08] <sitaram> Tomcat_, yeah, I guess I was hoping :-)  Anyway your idea is probably the easiest for me in the time I have before my trip.
[05:08] <mowen> so I type "remove quiet splash"?
[05:08] <sitaram> Tomcat_, thanks...
[05:08] <mowen> at F6 promt
[05:09] <aata> LjL, this is funny because im pretty sure bluetooth is installed and available in vista on the same machine... however hcitool dev gives no devices... ideas?
[05:09] <soundray> mowen: no, you do what you did before. Just hit the backspace key until you've deleted the words "quiet" and "splash". Then replace them with "vga=771", "noapic", or both.
[05:09] <Tomcat_> sitaram: Always. ;)
[05:09] <david003> hello. how can i see what the F1-F12 buttons are assigned to?
[05:10] <Bassxman1> i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?
[05:10] <soundray> mowen: leave out the quote marks, I just typed those to show you where the entries begin and end.
[05:10] <aata> helloo?\
[05:10] <psufan> hey
[05:10] <psufan> is ntop on the livecd?
[05:10] <soundray> !patience | aata
[05:10] <ubotu> aata: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:10] <umarzuki> System > Preferences > Keyboeard Shortcuts
[05:11] <LjL> aata: is that a USB dongle or built-in?
[05:11] <aata> im sorry :-[
[05:11] <neopsyche> aata what are gyou going to connect with your bluetooth?
[05:11] <aata> its built it
[05:11] <Lorvija> hiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?
[05:12] <aata> i suppose ill connect it with my cell phone, neopsyche
[05:12] <soundray> david003: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[05:12] <Bassxman1> i have no sound on my sound blaster 16.  I have restarted and even reinstalled ubuntu.   Can anyone help me?
[05:12] <umarzuki> dave already gone
[05:12] <neopsyche> oh.. is it not mission critical? just a fun project?
[05:12] <LjL> aata: see if /var/log/syslog says anything about bluetooth, at the end. pastebin the last dozen of lines or so.
[05:12] <soundray> mowen: am I making sense?
[05:12] <soundray> I'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?
[05:12] <dgjones> !sound | Bassxman1
[05:13] <ubotu> Bassxman1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:13] <neopsyche> linux copying files 77% :-)
[05:13] <genii> Bassxman1: Add snd-sb16 module to the file /etc/modules
[05:13] <Bassxman1> ok  thanks
[05:14] <aata> LjL, http://pastebin.com/m6a4a1dd4
[05:14] <jonesy> hi - just noticed the option to download the "alternate desktop CD". Is that *just* the installer, then, and therefore smaller?
[05:15] <wolfwalker> Does Ubuntu support most USB-MIDI adapters?
[05:15] <soundray> jonesy: no, it's for special requirements and finicky hardware
[05:15] <soundray> !alternate | jonesy
[05:15] <ubotu> jonesy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[05:15] <wolfwalker> In other words, if I have a midi keyboard and my computer doesn't have a midi jack, is there no hope?
[05:15] <jonesy> ok, thanks all.
[05:16] <jonesy> heh. midi ;-P
[05:16] <LjL> aata: uhm, does  lsmod | grep hci  show anything? do you know what your bluetooth chip is called, or at least what model is your laptop? finally, have you checked that the hardware bluetooth switch is on? ;)
[05:16] <Pici> wolfwalker: #ubuntustudio probably will be able to answer that :)
[05:16] <soundray> wolfwalker: you can install a sound card with a MIDI port
[05:16] <jonesy> I think I'm finally cured of fedora on the desktop.
[05:16] <jonesy> I tried to go back to it to give it another shot last night. No Bueno(tm).
[05:16] <wolfwalker> jonesy don't knock it.  For music programs, midi is the way to go.
[05:16] <shiznit> anyone installed creative x-fi drivers
[05:17] <jonesy> wolfwalker, not at all - I'm a musician myself.
[05:17] <neopsyche> what ftp gui is there besides gftp
[05:17] <wolfwalker> Ahh
[05:17] <neopsyche> that has a cut option
[05:17] <neopsyche> ?/
[05:17] <sanrag> hi ...can anyone help me ... i am having trouble with scp
[05:17] <Mortice> neopsyche: the file manager. Use the "Connect to Server" facility
[05:17] <Tomcat_> neopsyche: nautilus
[05:17] <neopsyche> oh
[05:17] <soundray> wolfwalker: how do you plan to use your keyboard, once you manage to set up a connection?
[05:17] <neopsyche> nautilus...?
[05:18] <Tomcat_> neopsyche: Default file browser in Ubuntu.
[05:18] <aata> dont think theres a hardware switch... but heres the lsmod output http://pastebin.com/d2460b79c
[05:18] <sanrag> whenever i scp a file to my ubuntu system...it's lost... i mean i can't locate it in my home directory
[05:18] <sanrag> what do i do
[05:18] <LjL> aata, uhm, most laptops have a button to enable/disable bluetooth and wifi
[05:18] <soundray> sanrag: what syntax do you use with scp? Please quote literally.
[05:18] <iarwain1> sanrag: where did you copy it to?
[05:19] <sanrag> scp <filename> sanrag@myip:
[05:19] <sanrag> i don't know where it goes
[05:19] <neopsyche> is there a download manager equiveland (with the features of) FDM free download manager for windows.
[05:19] <neopsyche> ?/
[05:19] <iarwain1> sanrag: try this "scp <file> sanrag@myip:/home/sanrag/
[05:19] <LjL> aata: try  sudo modprobe bluetooth  and then  sudo invoke-rc.d bluetooth restart 
[05:19] <shiznit> can you run 32bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu like you can in Windows?
[05:19] <MasterShrek> shiznit, yes
[05:19] <soundray> sanrag: it goes to your home directory. Places-Home Folder
[05:19] <neopsyche> equivelant program to: FDM/ Getright
[05:19] <shiznit> is it automatic?
[05:20] <david003> hello. i cant manage to control volume from my keyboard. i set the shourtcut keys correctly, and i manage to see the volume bar that goes up and down in ubuntu but rhithimbox, firefox and other stuff dont change the volume...how can i change that?
[05:20] <Pici> shiznit: no.
[05:20] <sanrag> it doesn't go to my home directory
[05:20] <Pici> !chroot > shiznit (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[05:20] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:20] <soundray> sanrag: I bet it does.
[05:20] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs
[05:20] <Grundoko> hey. can someone help me with winrar
[05:20] <jonesy> shiznit, yes.
[05:20] <shiznit> looks like they only have 64bit creative drivers
[05:20] <Mortice> neopsyche: check out gwget: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gwget/index.html
[05:20] <sanrag> it doesn't....
[05:21] <shiznit> :(
[05:21] <dvs01> is it just me or is gutsy's kernel affecting performance negatively? switching tabs in firefox takes 2-3 seconds, and performance seems weird overall, sometimes with noticeable keystroke lag that i didnt see before
[05:21] <soundray> sanrag: how are you checking?
[05:21] <LjL> !gutsy > dvs01    (dvs01, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:21] <iarwain1> sanrag: did you try the command i gave you?
[05:21] <penguincentral> Grundoko: what's up?
[05:21] <ikonia> shiznit it is 64bit only
[05:21] <neopsyche> thanks mortice.. i think i saw that one before but checking it out now.
[05:21] <Grundoko> i installed winrar using the add remove programs
[05:21] <sanrag> iarwain1, yes....still not working
[05:21] <dvs01> thanks
[05:21] <aata> nope, LjL. no output from modprobe. does that mean i have no bluetooth *super embarrassed*
[05:21] <Grundoko> but i cant figure out how to use it
[05:21] <aata> :-[
[05:21] <penguincentral> !ask | Grundoko
[05:21] <ubotu> Grundoko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:21] <Grundoko> ok sorry
[05:21] <shiznit> ikonia, looks like might have to use onboard audio for linux shurg
[05:22] <david003> hello. i cant manage to control volume from my keyboard. i set the shourtcut keys correctly, and i manage to see the volume bar that goes up and down in ubuntu but rhithimbox, firefox and other stuff dont change the volume...how can i change that?
[05:22] <penguincentral> Grundoko: is this a linux version, or under wine?
[05:22] <LjL> aata: modprobe is not *supposed* to give any option, just to load the given module. try hcitool dev again after having restarted bluetooth.
[05:22] <iarwain1> sanrag: are you using the same user to copy from? (it could be that you have no write perms)
[05:22] <Grundoko> i installed it using add remove programs
[05:22] <neopsyche> can i skip installing language packs?
[05:22] <Grundoko> so it should be the linux version
[05:22] <aata> nope... still no response
[05:22] <aata> hold on
[05:22] <iarwain1> neopsyche: yeah, you can :)
[05:22] <aata> let me check whats going on in windows.
[05:22] <Grundoko> i also tried downloading the linux version off the site. and still nothing
[05:22] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:22] <aata> be right back
[05:22] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs
[05:22] <vsayikiran> the output of netstat -t doesn't display complete foreign address, why? it only shows the subnet to which the foreign address belongs
[05:22] <vsayikiran> is there any channel where i can clear my doubts in networking field
[05:22] <sanrag> i m the sole user of my system and i do have write permissions
[05:23] <vsayikiran> is there any channel for networking issues
[05:23] <Pici> vsayikiran: ##networking iirc
[05:23] <iarwain1> sanrag: the fact that you're alone means nothing ;-)
[05:23] <penguincentral> Grundoko: there is no winrar in the repositories
[05:23] <iarwain1> sanrag: how do you check if the file's there?
[05:23] <sanrag> ls of course..
[05:23] <Grundoko> what is the repositories. im pretty new to ubuntu
[05:23] <volantares> well i'm off for now ikonia: thanks for all your help. I appreciate it
[05:23] <iarwain1> sanrag: in the ssh'ed system?
[05:24] <Grundoko> just got it yesterday<_<
[05:24] <vsayikiran> Pici: is it #networking or ##networking iirc, ?
[05:24] <Pici> vsayikiran: I'm not sure.
[05:24] <soundray> I'm trying to run third-party software that fails with "error while loading shared libraries: libGLw.so.1". I can't find this library with apt-file -- how can I install it in feisty?
[05:24] <soundray> !repos | Grundoko
[05:24] <ubotu> Grundoko: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:24] <sanrag> i can ssh and ls there too.
[05:24] <Grundoko> !repos
[05:24] <Grundoko> /repos
[05:24] <Pici> vsayikiran: one #
[05:24] <iarwain1> soundray: i'm not on ubuntu, but perhaps you can search the forums for that file (it will be a libgl package i think)
[05:24] <soundray> Grundoko: look up, ubotu
[05:25] <iarwain1> sanrag: btw, if you want to use locate, update your db first (sudo slocate -u)
[05:25] <vsayikiran> does anyone how to create multisession CD/DVD with cd creator package?
[05:25] <sanrag> tried that too...it cudn't locate
[05:25] <soundray> sanrag: try 'ls -lart $HOME'
[05:25] <LjL> soundray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfree86/+bug/38624
[05:25] <iarwain1> sanrag: couldn't update the db, or find it?
[05:25] <Cryoniq> Is there a macro program working with Ubuntu/Gnome where I can record or make script macros to make mousepointer move and klick, and have keyboards enter text etc?
[05:26] <LjL> soundray: it seems libglw-dev is a virtual package that really points to some other xorg package. there is no libglw at all.
[05:26] <sanrag> couldn't find it
[05:26] <iarwain1> sanrag: and the scp doesn't give any errors?
[05:26] <vsayikiran> how to create multisession CD/DVD using cd/dvd creator package
[05:26] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:27] <sanrag> no...instead it prints out the fortune... ( i have fortune in my .bashrc )
[05:27] <surja> problem with mounting data dvd disc on ubuntu 7.04
[05:27] <neopsyche> bye.. going down for reboot for new linux installation... hope it works :-)
[05:27] <neopsyche> cheers
[05:27] <soundray> LjL: okay... can you give me a pointer where to go from here? I'm using a provided binary atm, but I'm not optimistic that compiling the software myself will help.
[05:27] <surja> need help
[05:27] <iarwain1> neopsyche: good luck!
[05:27] <LjL> soundray: well, what software is that?
[05:28] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:28] <soundray> LjL: it's called AFNI http://afni.nimh.nih.gov/afni/
[05:28] <iarwain1> sanrag: so you scp the file to ... ? (the path after the @myip:)
[05:28] <doktoreas> why changing the modes inside xorg.conf doesn't update the values in preferences?
[05:28] <sanrag> /home/sanrag
[05:29] <iarwain1> sanrag: don't know why it won't copy O.o
[05:29] <Pici> !fixres > doktoreas (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[05:29] <sanrag> don't know myself....
[05:29] <sanrag> :(
[05:30] <soundray> iarwain1: try the scp command locally (scp somefile sanrag@localhost:) -- see if it "arrives". If it does, the problem is with the sending machine.
[05:30] <surja> can anyone help with mounting data dvd disc?
[05:30] <pianoboy3333> hey, I've got one of those dell monitors that turn sideways, is there anyway to get that working in ubuntu, and to be able to switch back and forth easily?
[05:30] <iarwain1> sanrag: check soundray's message to me :)
[05:30] <sanrag> can u plz explain the syntax
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: did theyget you figured out?
[05:31] <vsayikiran> pianoboy: why do you want to turn sideways
[05:31] <soundray> sanrag: there's nothing to explain. Just use the scp command before, but on the target machine, with localhost as the destination.
[05:31] <soundray> *as before
[05:32] <sanrag> soundray, not working
[05:32] <pianoboy3333> vsayikiran: ummm because I'd like to? if I didn't want to I wouldn't have asked the question
[05:32] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:32] <pianoboy3333> vsayikiran: I don't need to be questioned on why I asked the question
[05:33] <iarwain1> sanrag: just a quick question, is the file you're trying to send, in the folder you're in? (try with an absolute path to the file)
[05:33] <toke-> is there messenger for gecko?
[05:33] <sanrag> yes...it is
[05:33] <vsayikiran> pianoboy: but there should be some purpose of asking such q's
[05:33] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: do you know what graphics drivers you're using? Nvidia or intel or what?
[05:33] <iarwain1> vsayikiran: because he wants it?
[05:33] <vsayikiran> how to create multisession CD/DVD's
[05:34] <pianoboy3333> Mortice: nvidia 7600 gt
[05:34] <mojo_> hello there, does Ubuntu uses wpa_supplicant.conf?
[05:34] <Poundo> sudo ifup eth0 says no such device what do i need to do to get eth0 to respond
[05:34] <sanrag> so what should i do now?
[05:34] <soundray> sanrag: okay, try this: create an empty file: 'touch foo'. Now copy that empty file locally with 'scp foo bar'. Now check if bar exists: 'ls -l bar'
[05:34] <neopsyche> well, that was good. :-)
[05:34] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: cool. You should be able to do this with a single command that you can bind to a hotkey once we set up a config file.
[05:35] <pianoboy3333> Mortice: ok
[05:35] <neopsyche> i diddnt think ubuntu was going to load .. but it did eventually...
[05:35] <iarwain1> mojo_: ubuntu doesn't use wpa_supplicant i think
[05:35] <vsayikiran> how to create multisession cd/dvd's
[05:35] <sanrag> soundray, yes, bar exists
[05:35] <coldboot> What's that program that installs all the needed software to compile a source package?
[05:35] <mojo_> iarwain1: u sure? then how can I connect to WPA network on console? I am using Ubuntu server now
[05:35] <iarwain1> vsayikiran: i know that with k3b you get the choice. Perhaps in the menu or so?
[05:35] <neopsyche> something that is really cool that i wonder if it could be done on a desktop.. on latops there is a suspend resume feature .. where if you turn off your laptop .. it powers back up again and returns you to exactly the same screen/programs you were on.. can that be done with ubuntu on a desktop?
[05:35] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: could you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf please? 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:36] <coldboot> It uses apt-get to get all the packages you need to compile the package of your choice.
[05:36] <pianoboy3333> Mortice: ok
[05:36] <iarwain1> mojo_: not sure, i'm not using ubuntu.
[05:36] <mojo_> iarwain1: ...
[05:36] <dagobert> so i want my windows to all swoosh on in and out, like in apple expose, when my mouse pointer goes to a corner of a screen.  how do i do that ?
[05:36] <iarwain1> mojo_: ^_^ but when i checked the last time, it didn't really use it
[05:36] <Grundoko> ok i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termenal
[05:36] <pianoboy3333> Mortice: done
[05:36] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: in the 'device' section, add 'Option "RandRRotation" "on"'
[05:36] <MasterShrek> mojo_, build-essential
[05:36] <MasterShrek> coldboot, *** my bad
[05:36] <vsayikiran> iarwain: do you use cd/dvd creator the default package that comes with ubuntu
[05:37] <mojo_> MasterShrek: heh?
[05:37] <iarwain1> vsayikiran: no, i used to use kubuntu
[05:37] <MasterShrek> sorry mojo_ meant for someone else =P
[05:37] <coldboot> MasterShrek: What?
[05:37] <mojo_> MasterShrek: typo
[05:37] <pianoboy3333> Mortice: done
[05:37] <MasterShrek> coldboot, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:37] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: once that's done, save the file and restart your graphical windowing system by hitting Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. When you log in again, you should be able to hit Alt-F2 and type "xrandr -o right" to rotate your display.
[05:37] <MasterShrek> for building packages from source
[05:37] <sanrag> can anyone help me out ?
[05:38] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: Assuming that worked, you can used the keyboard shortcuts window to set up a hotkey for it.
[05:38] <pianoboy3333> ok thanks
[05:38] <coldboot> MasterShrek: sudo apt-get build-dep package_name
[05:38] <soundray> sanrag: sec, phone
[05:38] <Mortice> pianoboy3333: good luck :)
[05:38] <sanrag> ok
[05:38] <elfranger> is ubuntu 7.04 server edition a live cd?
[05:38] <Lorvija> hiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?
[05:38] <vsayikiran> iarwain: can KDE package be run properly in GNome
[05:38] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:38] <Pici> elfranger: No.
[05:38] <elfranger> Pici: but the desktop one is?
[05:38] <alemmer> em resources in xUbuntu?
[05:38] <toke-> people from finland?
[05:38] <Pici> elfranger: yes.
[05:38] <Lorvija> toke-:  yes
[05:39] <elfranger> Pici: cool, thanks
[05:39] <toke-> jeejee
[05:39] <vsayikiran> is it possible to use kde packages in gnome
[05:39] <Pici> !fi
[05:39] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[05:39] <Pici> vsayikiran: Sure.
[05:39] <alemmer> How do I check my system resources in xUbuntu?
[05:39] <elfranger> Pici: In case you are wondering. Only asking because I need the livecd to resize my partitions
[05:39] <sanrag> vsyaikiran, yes u can use..
[05:39] <doktoreas> Pici, is like i am changing the wrong file
[05:39] <vsayikiran> Pici: how kde is differeny from gnome
[05:39] <doktoreas> i set all resolution to 1024 but gdm still load 1680
[05:39] <SMARTerror> alemmer you can try the command top in console
[05:39] <Grundoko> ok i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termena
[05:40] <umer> hey guys, i have a question, i tried ubuntu 7.04 and was a bit frustrated with it, this was a couple of months ago, but taking a look at 7.10, i see alot of the features i want should be available in that. so i was wondering, is it better for me to wait for the final release of 7.10, or is the beta good enough?
[05:40] <sanrag> vsayikiran, kde is more like windows environment while gnome is more like mac os environment
[05:40] <umer> i would be switching from windows xp
[05:40] <Pici> vsayikiran: Its a different interface.  Its like comparing the mac gui to windows, its just different.
[05:40] <neopsyche> 7zip?
[05:40] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:40] <e\ectro_> can someone help me troubleshoot pam_group.so issue where users logging into GDM do not obtain the groups I have setup in /etc/security/groups.conf ?
[05:40] <Pici> umer: If you were having issues with Feisty, I'd wait for Gutsy final.  Its still quite buggy right now.
[05:40] <Grundoko> 7zip only works in the termenal too
[05:40] <vsayikiran> Pici: once i installed amorok player which is kde package, but after installation i wasnt able to see the letters in menu
[05:40] <umer> oh okay, sounds good
[05:41] <sanrag> vsayikiran, u can always add it to menu manually
[05:41] <soundray> sanrag: now try 'scp foo sanrag@localhost:barbar'. Does barbar exist after that?
[05:41] <LjL> soundray: http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mesa/libglw1-mesa_7.0.1-2_i386.deb - it's a Debian package, but APT takes it fine on my Gutsy.
[05:41] <umer> also, are there any msn replacements available for ubuntu other than amsn and gaim?
[05:41] <Pici> vsayikiran: Thats odd. I had that once, but I reinstalled amarok and it worked fine.
[05:41] <Lorvija> hiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?
[05:42] <sanrag> no barbar wasn't there
[05:42] <neopsyche> i selected xchat files in synaptic.
[05:42] <neopsyche> does this mean that xchat for gnome will be installed?
[05:42] <vsayikiran> sanrag: you didnlt get it , after installation the menu's of amarok player were empty, like when i opened file menu, the menu commands were absent
[05:42] <neopsyche> or only stuff that helps xchat?
[05:42] <SMARTerror> only if you install gnome xchat
[05:43] <soundray> LjL: that's great, thank you. Feisty doesn't take it, I'll have to try it on my gutsy machine when I get home.
[05:43] <SMARTerror> personally i dont like gnome xchat
[05:43] <sanrag> vsayikiran, strange.. mine working fine
[05:43] <elfranger> just a quick question before I go ahead... I am about to boot on the livecd to get to resize my partitions.. is that a smart way of doing it?
[05:43] <neopsyche> is gusty out yet? officially?
[05:43] <LjL> neopsyche: No
[05:43] <neopsyche> ok
[05:44] <genii> neopsyche: Oct 17 or 18
[05:44] <Grundoko> ok i got winrar working. but it only works in the termenal. is there any archiving program that supports .rpm files that i can use without using the termenal
[05:44] <sanrag> soundray, couldn't find barbar
[05:44] <vsayikiran> sanrag: do you know how to use sound recorder
[05:44] <LjL> soundray: there is also *supposed* to be a package in trevio's repository which has it for *edgy*, but that package gives a 404.
[05:44] <vsayikiran> sanrag: i am unable to record any sound and i wonder whether it detects my internal microphone
[05:45] <LjL> soundray: on my own Debian Etch, some packages provide libGLw.a, but none libGLw.so.1
[05:45] <Bassxman1> i am reading this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards about the sound problem but when i have to open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local i get this   bash: /etc/modutils/alsa_local: No such file or directory   Can anyone help me?
[05:45] <Malique> Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible in some round about way to make a symlink for a file across HTTP?
[05:45] <LjL> Malique: no, but there is an HTTP filesystem for FUSE
[05:45] <swarm> When installing QUOTA, I ran into this issue: quotacheck: WARNING - Quotafile //quota.user was probably truncated. Cannot save quota settings... ----------> It repeats the same for quota.group -- any ideas?
[05:46] <phatfish> The current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?
[05:46] <soundray> LjL: as long as I can run it somewhere, I'll be happy :)  It sounds like it'll be just the thing to try on gutsy. Thanks again!
[05:46] <Malique> Oooo that COULD work maybe, I'll have a look at that, thanks :)
[05:46] <SMARTerror> Grundoko if you have rar and unrar installed it will work with file roller
[05:46] <soundray> sanrag: did you get a password prompt when you tried that?
[05:46] <GigaClon> uhh my SD card reader is mounting read-only, its never done that before
[05:47] <GigaClon> nm
[05:47] <soundray> GigaClon: switch?
[05:47] <GigaClon> yeah
[05:47] <swarm> oh. that error is normal.
[05:47] <genii> Bassxman1: Quote from that page you are at: "Note! Propably alsa_local files does not exist so create them first."
[05:48] <Poundo> I can ping 127.0.0.1 but not 192.168.1.10 "Network is Unreachable" /interface shows "auto eth0" iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.7"
[05:49] <shiznit> would ubuntu make a good CS:S sever OS?
[05:49] <sanrag> soundray, yes, i git
[05:49] <sanrag> vsayikiran, run alsamixer and see if ur microphone is there
[05:49] <Mortice> poundo: does "sudo ifconfig" show eth0 having the correct ip address?
[05:50] <w00t> hello...I had to re-install my windows partition, but it overwrote my grub i believe...doesn anyone know a way to fix that? im in the live cd right now...
[05:50] <genii> Bassxman1: Also for editing you likely want to use an editor and not try to run the files (you were getting a "bash: error")   so something like sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa_local                 or so
[05:50] <vsayikiran> sanrag: how?
[05:50] <blubloblu> Is there anything new in 7.10 beta from alpha 5?
[05:50] <Mortice> !ubuntu+1
[05:50] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <vsayikiran> sanrag: my lappy has internal microphone
[05:50] <doktoreas> does monitor resolution take modes from xorg.conf?
[05:50] <sanrag> vsayikiran, type alsamixer on command prompt, go to capture section, it will show on top
[05:50] <Dr_willis> doktoreas,  yes normally it does.
[05:51] <sanrag> doktoreas, yes
[05:51] <hwilde> how can I set an ethernet port to 10MBps or 100MBps on boot ?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> doktoreas,  thers also optiuons for X to 'query' the monitor for what modes it can handle.
[05:51] <doktoreas> Dr_willis, i changes the modes but the gui show always the same values
[05:51] <levander> Will the version of Rhythmbox in Gutsy support MTP?
[05:51] <Poundo> Mortice:no it only eth0 is not shown jus lo at 127.0.0.1
[05:51] <Dr_willis> doktoreas,  you did restart the X server? you did check at the !fixres factoid site?
[05:51] <doktoreas> Dr_willis, yes
[05:51] <Mortice> Poundo: then it looks like eth0 hasn't configured properly. Try doing "sudo ifup eth0"
[05:51] <doktoreas> xorg starts always at the same resolution
[05:52] <doktoreas> inside modes i have only 1024x768 and the gui show other modes
[05:52] <sanrag> doktoreas, do u have a graphics card
[05:52] <hwilde> !fixres | doktoreas
[05:52] <ubotu> doktoreas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:52] <Poundo> Mortice: when I did that I get no such device
[05:52] <doktoreas> intel GMA950
[05:52] <soundray> sanrag: does 'ssh sanrag@localhost' give you a bash prompt?
[05:52] <informatyka_> Hello
[05:52] <hwilde> Poundo, run "ifconfig -a"  to see all interfaces
[05:53] <informatyka> hey
[05:53] <smacfarl> so my 7.10 update failed because it couldn't find an update for automatix. What do I do?
[05:53] <doktoreas> sanrag, the livecd detected 1680x1050
[05:53] <doktoreas> but the gui shows only 1024x768
[05:53] <informatyka_> Shit :(
[05:53] <vsayikiran> sanrag: it does show capture and input so option, now what to do?
[05:53] <soundray> smacfarl: reinstall
[05:53] <informatyka> no
[05:53] <Innomen> is there a chkdisk equivilant for ubuntu?
[05:53] <Mortice> Poundo: that'd be the problem then. :) Do you know what model your network card is?
[05:53] <doktoreas> and this is not in the xorg.conf "modes"
[05:53] <stdin> !fsck | Innomen
[05:53] <ubotu> Innomen: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[05:53] <informatyka_> What the hell is with ya dude?
[05:53] <informatyka_> Viking huh "?
[05:53] <informatyka_> ..
[05:53] <hwilde> doktoreas, hit ctrl+alt+f1,  go to super user,  edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   replace the resolutions, save the file, ctrl+alt+f7, ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:53] <cyrano> hi
[05:53] <Malique> OK, I found HTTPFS for FUSE, now here's my next question: if I access such a file system from another computer, either through HTTP or SSH or what not, will the computer I'm accessing from be downloading the file, or will the computer on which the HTTPFS is mounted be downloading it, and then re-sending it to the networked computer?
[05:53] <cyrano> i've got an offtopic question, but couldn't think of a more qualified channel to go to. I want to forward all my mails with attachments from one GMAIL account to another. I tride doing this with a filter, but it didn't forward the existing mails...
[05:53] <PuppiesAtWork> Is there an ubuntu live CD that can run on a MacBook Pro and have everything work?
[05:53] <cyrano> any suggestion
[05:54] <penguincentral> Innomen: after 30 mounts, Ubuntu checks the hdd's by itself when you boot
[05:54] <sanrag> soundray, yes it does, not only from localhost but also from other ips
[05:54] <smacfarl> soundray do I need to uninstall automatix?
[05:54] <daedra> how do you telnet into freenode?
[05:54] <sanrag> PuppiesAtWork, yes there is, u can order it from Canonical
[05:54] <PuppiesAtWork> sanrag: I want to just download and burn it myself
[05:55] <PuppiesAtWork> sanrag: with the 7.10beta LiveCD work fine?
[05:55] <levander> cyrano: There are Google support groups on groups.google.com
[05:55] <Poundo> Mortice: it's in a vmware guest install I'll check
[05:55] <Skenvoy> Hello, i'm getting incredibly slow reads using winxp from samba
[05:55] <Mortice> Poundo: aha. Lemme look into that for you.
[05:55] <soundray> sanrag: try the original scp command with the -v option. It should tell you more about what it does then.
[05:55] <sanrag> PuppiesAtWork, i don't have a mac, but if it's for Mac, it will wok fine
[05:55] <cyrano> ok. thanks
[05:55] <PuppiesAtWork> sanrag: It's for a macbook pro
[05:55] <Malique> Gahh, too many people, don't know whether to ask again in case no one saw me or wait for an answer LOL
[05:55] <Mrowkojad> PuppiesAtWork: I think better you wait ten days for stable version 7.10 :>
[05:55] <PuppiesAtWork> and wireless has to work.;
[05:56] <SpiderPig> how do i install java?
[05:56] <PuppiesAtWork> Fuck that
[05:56] <PuppiesAtWork> I'm going beta
[05:56] <soundray> smacfarl: if you are going to reinstall, it doesn't matter. Steer away from automatix in the future.
[05:56] <soundray> !automatix | smacfarl
[05:56] <ubotu> smacfarl: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:56] <stdin> !ohmy | PuppiesAtWork
[05:56] <vsayikiran> sanrag: alsamixer show option for capture and input so, now what to do
[05:56] <ubotu> PuppiesAtWork: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:56] <hwilde> how can I set an ethernet port to 10MBps or 100MBps on boot ?
[05:56] <PuppiesAtWork> ah
[05:56] <PuppiesAtWork> Are families in this channel?
[05:56] <Mrowkojad> yes
[05:56] <Innomen> the gnome partition manager will not recover the unallocated space on my drive it says the filesystem has errors
[05:56] <Mrowkojad> kst its my uncle
[05:56] <SpiderPig> HOW DO I INSTALL JAVA?
[05:56] <hwilde> !language | PuppiesAtWork
[05:56] <ubotu> PuppiesAtWork: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:56] <Mrowkojad> daedra its my mother :>
[05:56] <SpiderPig> sudo apt-get install java?
[05:56] <stdin> PuppiesAtWork: maybe, but there are kids in here
[05:56] <Innomen> this is a windows partiton i'm enlarging
[05:56] <hwilde> !java | SpiderPig
[05:56] <ubotu> SpiderPig: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:56] <Mortice> Poundo: Could you check this page and see if that describes your problem and provides a fix? http://stateless.geek.nz/2007/02/01/ubuntu-and-vmware-losing-your-ethernet-device-when-migrating/
[05:56] <kst> i am what?
[05:56] <penguincentral> Mrowkojad: well i'll be
[05:56] <MasterShrek> !java | SpiderPig
[05:56] <Innomen> with fsck hurt a windows partiiton?
[05:56] <sanrag> vsayikiran, does it show any name on capture screen
[05:57] <Malique> OK, I found HTTPFS for FUSE, now here's my next question: if I access such a file system from another computer, either through HTTP or SSH or what not, will the computer I'm accessing from be downloading the file, or will the computer on which the HTTPFS is mounted be downloading it, and then re-sending it to the networked computer?
[05:57] <kst> !ban Mrowkojad
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ban mrowkojad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <levander> cyrano: on gmail.com, click on help and see if answer is in there, otherwise: http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Help-Discussion
[05:57] <smacfarl> so i have installed 3 things via automatix should I uninstall them before removing automatix?
[05:57] <PuppiesAtWork> Do you tell people to come here instead of calling the ubuntu support line?
[05:57] <PuppiesAtWork> Is there an actual ubuntu support line?
[05:57] <MasterShrek> !java
[05:57] <Mrowkojad> kst: nothing i'm just kiding
[05:57] <penguincentral> kst, according to Mrowkojad, you two are related
[05:57] <blubloblu> PuppiesAtWork: we're more fun than a support line
[05:57] <penguincentral> !offtopic | PuppiesAtWork
[05:57] <ubotu> PuppiesAtWork: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:57] <SMARTerror> the flow of information is too much lol
[05:57] <kitche> PuppiesAtWork: yes if you pay for it :)
[05:57] <informatyka_> Mrowkojad Tak? ..
[05:57] <Evanlec> 1-800-help-ubuntu
[05:57] <Mrowkojad> informatyka_: tak
[05:57] <sanrag> soundray, have to go ...can i contact u after half an hour
[05:57] <PuppiesAtWork> kitche: how much is it?
[05:57] <Pici> PuppiesAtWork: This is community support, there is paid support.
[05:57] <soundray> sanrag: no, sorry
[05:58] <doktoreas> hwilde, the problem come also with livecd
[05:58] <vsayikiran> sanrag: i didnt get you , what name
[05:58] <vsayikiran> sanrag: i ran the command and i saw a graphic representing volume etc
[05:58] <PuppiesAtWork> Can consumers buy the paid support?
[05:58] <Malique> Anyone know? :(
[05:58] <doktoreas> ubuntu set modes only to 1680x1050
[05:58] <van> hello
[05:58] <doktoreas> but the livecd is showned at 1024x768
[05:58] <stdin> PuppiesAtWork: http://ubuntu.com/support
[05:58] <genii> Skenvoy: find in /etc/samba/smb.conf the entry: #socket options = TCP_NODELAY      and remove the #  then do a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:58] <informatyka_> HAHAHAHA! Mrowkojad is Dead!!
[05:58] <wers> !gksu
[05:58] <informatyka_> FInally!
[05:58] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[05:58] <informatyka_> Hail to the Bandit King!
[05:59] <genii> Skenvoy: You need to edit with admin rights, so something like gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:59] <Skenvoy> genii: already done
[05:59] <uguestu> > Hi. I want to remove Movie Player (Totem) and everything to do with it and use MPlayer for everthing < How can I remove everything to do with Totem?
[06:00] <Skenvoy> genii: no effect. Speeds reading from the server (samba) are a pathetic 400kB/s on a GIGABIT network
[06:00] <Evanlec> sudo apt-get remove totem
[06:00] <Skenvoy> genii: writing to the same share results in 30MB/s speeds
[06:00] <Innomen> so there is no checkdisk equivilant for umbuntu for ntfs and other types?
[06:00] <Innomen> only ext?
[06:00] <sparsec> Innomen: fsck
[06:00] <unimatrix9> you dont need to remove totem to use mplayer , but i guess you already know that?
[06:00] <vsayikiran> Pici: do you know how to record or capture sound
[06:00] <uguestu> > Hi. I want to remove Movie Player (Totem) and everything to do with it and use MPlayer for everthing < How can I remove everything to do with Totem?
[06:00] <Innomen> no
[06:00] <Innomen> i just ran it
[06:00] <Innomen> it says there's no ext there
[06:01] <Innomen> or is there a commandline switch for ntfs?
[06:01] <Pici> vsayikiran: I dont, sorry.
[06:01] <sparsec> Innomen: And which fs you need it for?
[06:01] <Evanlec> uguestu, system > synaptic > mark totem for complete removal
[06:01] <sparsec> Innomen: Ah, ntfs, sorry, didn't saw this one
[06:01] <soundray> !info ntfsprogs | Innomen
[06:01] <Innomen> i need it for the make gnome work like it should file system lol
[06:01] <ubotu> innomen: ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.13.1-6 (feisty), package size 267 kB, installed size 700 kB
[06:01] <Malique> Judging from the way this looks, I don't think FUSE will help me, not unless there's another HTTP mount extension besides httpfs
[06:01] <unimatrix9> sound recording : there are several programs , use audacity ..
[06:01] <swarm> do'h.
[06:01] <Innomen> gah
[06:01] <swarm> i need to reset my mysqld passwd
[06:01] <Malique> NOt for this particular issue
[06:01] <Innomen> so not on live cd then
[06:01] <uguestu> Evanlec- "Cannot remove Totem-gstreamer" > "
[06:01] <uguestu> One or more applications depend on totem-gstreamer. To remove totem-gstreamer and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager."
[06:01] <unimatrix9> !audacity
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <unimatrix9> hmm,
[06:02] <vsayikiran> please help needed, i want to know whether ubuntu recognises built in microphone
[06:02] <Innomen> !audacity
[06:02] <Evanlec> uguestu, u have to do it from synaptic, not from add/remove program
[06:02] <soundray> Innomen: you can install it in the live CD
[06:02] <kitche> swarm: mysql.com has a good howto on how to reset root password for mysql unless you mean something different
[06:02] <Innomen> oh cool
[06:02] <Innomen> thanky
[06:02] <Pici> !msgthebot
[06:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:02] <Evanlec> uguestu, do "sudo synaptic" from terminal
[06:02] <penguincentral> Innomen: they already tried that
[06:02] <penguincentral> Pici, are you everywhere all at once?
[06:02] <unimatrix9> use sound recorder , its in the programs menu
[06:02] <Innomen> i was spelling it form muslce memory
[06:02] <genii> Skenvoy: There are various speedup tips in the samba docs, sudo apt-get install samba-doc              then view /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/speed.html
[06:02] <Innomen> it looked wrong
[06:02] <uguestu> Evanlec- Ok. You use xchat Evanlec?
[06:02] <Innomen> lol
[06:03] <swarm> kitche, yeah. thats what im looking for
[06:03] <informatyka_> aaa
[06:03] <Malique> I need some way of being able to make a symlink or something similar to a file that's on the net, and have it so when others try to download it from my server it will download from the original location
[06:03] <SpiderPig> how do i enable multiverse in my repository list?
[06:03] <unimatrix9> the soundn applet on the right corner of your desktop , klick it, it shows the mic too ..
[06:03] <informatyka_> aaa
[06:03] <informatyka_> AAAZ
[06:04] <Innomen> ntfsprogs does not show up in add/remove
[06:04] <SpiderPig> how do i enable multiverse in my repository list?
[06:04] <van> van
[06:04] <Innomen> i'll just do it from windows
[06:04] <soundray> Malique: when you say it's "on the net", how exactly is it accessible?
[06:04] <Innomen> no biggie
[06:04] <Evanlec> uguestu, ya
[06:04] <nunya_> hello
[06:04] <nunya_> how is everyone
[06:04] <uguestu> Evanlec- How do you get the +nick and then ,?
[06:04] <benzs_s> SpiderPig: system > administration > check the 'multiverse' box
[06:04] <uguestu> I only get :
[06:04] <benzs_s> er
[06:04] <unimatrix9> nunya , ok thank you...
[06:04] <benzs_s> SpiderPig: system > administration > software sources >check the 'multiverse' box
[06:05] <nunya_> good good
[06:05] <Evanlec> uguestu, im just using <tab> completion
[06:05] <afd_> hi! I have a hardware problem... I'm purchased a new dvd-writer driver, SATA model. It didn't work with Feisty (it won't complete loading kernel modules), so I've upgraded to Gutsy. I just wrote a dvd with it, but I can't mount the drive. I've even tried mounting it manually, but I can't. I get this in dmesg output: cdrom: failed setting lba address space
[06:05] <afd_> any ideas?
[06:05] <soundray> !multiverse > SpiderPig
[06:05] <Pici> afd_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:05] <uguestu> Evanlec- Me too. But I don't get + infront of the nickname like you did before.
[06:05] <uguestu> How come?
[06:05] <Evanlec> uguestu, im not sure what u mean by +
[06:05] <enano> Hi! Does anyone have a link on howto install flashplayer (for firefox) with feisty 64bit? Thanks!
[06:05] <UbuntuGuy> HI -- Problem with glxgears and i810 driver in feisty.  at startup, X says " AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so", but glxgears says drmMap of framebuffer failed (invalid argument) and "Direct Rendering: No".  Any ideas how to get it working?
[06:05] <Malique> I want the files to be accessible ad deb files from apt-get
[06:06] <uguestu> Evanlec- This is what I see:     Evanlec: +uguestu, im not sure what u mean by +
[06:06] <uguestu> You see there is a + infront of my nickname.
[06:06] <trytrys> aaaa
[06:06] <Xsylotte> is there any posibillity to "Take screenshot" automaticly saves screenshots ?
[06:06] <trytrys> afddsaf
[06:06] <Xsylotte> without asking me ?
[06:06] <Evanlec> uguestu, oh, i dont see that, ur using regular xchat or xchat-gnome ?
[06:06] <uguestu> Evanlec- Regular.
[06:06] <Evanlec> uguestu, im not sure...
[06:06] <uguestu> Evanlec- Odd.
[06:06] <unimatrix9> set timer for your screenshot
[06:07] <trytrys>  Evanlec- Odd.
[06:07] <slackern> uguestu: is there a (plus) sign in this message also
[06:07] <Innomen> given the target audience for this app, why sint the a windows installer?
[06:07] <van> kuhgf
[06:07] <uguestu> Yes slackern
[06:07] <Innomen> would that be possible?
[06:07] <mooper> hi, I have a dual monitor setup with ati big desktop thingy. When I go full screen with a VM on server it uses both screens. with a duplicate in each screen. How Can I keep the VM to one screen?
[06:07] <Malique> soundray: I want the files to be accessible as deb files from apt-get
[06:07] <Xsylotte> unimatrix9, i've meant when i press button print screen, it opens a widnows where i need to click on save....
[06:07] <kitche> Innomen: if you want to use windows inaller use a windows install cd
[06:07] <Xsylotte> i don't need that windows.
[06:07] <Xsylotte> *window
[06:07] <van> #include <stdio.h>
[06:07] <van> #include <stdlib.h>
[06:07] <van> main() {
[06:07] <van>   int kol,wiersz;
[06:07] <van>   for(kol=1; kol<=9; kol++);
[06:07] <van>  printf("%i",kol);
[06:07] <van> }
[06:07] <Innomen> no i mean for installing ubuntu to a second drive for duel boot and testing purposes
[06:07] <kitche> paste | van
[06:08] <Evanlec> !pastebin | van
[06:08] <hwilde> Malique, /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:08] <ubotu> van: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:08] <slackern> uguestu: check the user input area of the xchat config and look for "Nick completion suffix" it should be a : or a , there
[06:08] <vsayikiran> does cd/dvd creator support multisession
[06:08] <soundray> Malique: okay, but how *are* they accessible to you right now? FTP? SCP?
[06:08] <Innomen> sort of the middle path between booting from cd and ghoing pure ubuntu
[06:08] <Malique> soundray: they're currently on HTTP
[06:08] <uguestu> slackern- Yes I have it set too "-" but how can I add the + INFRONT of the nickname like you have?
[06:08] <swarm> hmmmm...... it says restart mysql with  --skip-grant-tables option.... so i did /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[06:08] <slackern> uguestu: oh i have no idea why you are getting it :)
[06:08] <uguestu> odd.
[06:08] <swarm> but... then the rest of the commands i says to give give errors because of that?
[06:08] <Innomen> has anyone considered it? or is it like technically not possible because of how windows is built?
[06:09] <uguestu> anyway.. thank's for help
[06:09] <murlidhar> err how do i make deluge the default torrent client??
[06:09] <slackern> uguestu: with some irc clients moderators of a channel can have a + sign infront of their nick while operators have a @ sign infront of theirs, but im neither
[06:09] <Evanlec> murlidhar, good question!
[06:09] <kitche> Innomen: why are you asking about windows in a linux channel? if you want a windows like installer use the alternate cd
[06:10] <soundray> Malique: in that case, I don't think it's possible. If they were accessible via ftp, you could mount the remote location using fuse. I don't think there's a fuse model for ftp, though.
[06:10] <Skenvoy> genii: read the samba-docs - tried stuff it's still pathetically slow - the share is accessing a raid-5 array with a benchmark speed of over 170MB/s
[06:10] <soundray> s/model/module/
[06:10] <SMARTerror> murlindhar i do believe then next time you open a torrent just select the app you wish to use
[06:10] <Malique> soundray: but then wouldn't the serving computer be downloading them first anyway, and then relaying them?
[06:10] <soundray> Malique: no
[06:11] <soundray> Malique: oh, yes, sorry
[06:11] <murlidhar> Evanlec: thnks but how do i make it default?
[06:11] <Malique> I want to see if it's possible to make the computers I set up with the repository to download direct from the site they link to, rather than from my server which is behind a very slow connection
[06:11] <soundray> Malique: I see what you mean now. You want some sort of redirection
[06:11] <Evanlec> murlidhar, i dont know lol
[06:11] <genii> Skenvoy: Well, there are no other suggestions I could offer than the ones which are already in there.
[06:11] <murlidhar> SMARTerror: i do not where my client is???
[06:11] <Malique> Soundray: yes, exactly. A redirection within a deb repository :)
[06:11] <Malique> Is it possible?
[06:12] <swarm> ok. this is wierd
[06:12] <swarm> every time i type something specific, it shows up as something else.
[06:12] <soundray> Malique: I don't know (but I doubt it). You could try #debian (but put on your asbestos suit)
[06:12] <whiskeytango> Erm..
[06:12] <swarm> in this case, my password.
[06:12] <Malique> LOL, fair enough, thanks I'll try there
[06:13] <genii> Skenvoy: Possibly renicing smb daemon, thats about it
[06:13] <swarm> does !1 mean anything to you guys?
[06:13] <swarm> my password has !1 in it
[06:13] <Skenvoy> genii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143982 = looks like i'll be buying a non-crap ethernet card
[06:13] <unimatrix9> swarm wrong keyboard settings ?
[06:13] <swarm> its in terminal
[06:13] <unimatrix9> so?
[06:13] <JuJuBee> I want to install opera.  I have the .deb package.  How do I install it?
[06:13] <swarm> and if i just type !1 it shows the same thing i am seeing when i type it in a command
[06:14] <unimatrix9> copy and paste...
[06:14] <genii> Skenvoy: Good idea :)
[06:14] <swarm> same. it is replacing it
[06:14] <swarm> go to a terminal and type !1 and see for yourself
[06:14] <swarm> it will show the first thing you ever typed.
[06:14] <unimatrix9> you have got the first virus
[06:14] <whiskeytango> "event not found" swarm
[06:15] <swarm> hmm
[06:15] <soundray> JuJuBee: 'sudo dpkg -i opera*.deb'
[06:15] <hellonull> hey, i am having an issue with my programs (pidgin & thunderbird) being able to access google services (talk & gmail, respectively)... anyone know what the issue might be?
[06:15] <unimatrix9> swarm type history -c to clear all inputs
[06:15] <JuJuBee> thanks soundray.
[06:15] <elfranger> uhm, I need some help... I have launched the livecd and am now in gparted gui...
[06:15] <WippoZippo> Goodevening, it seems I'm having problems installing ubuntu
[06:15] <vsayikiran> please help does cd/dvd creator support multisession
[06:15] <WippoZippo> I have a seagate HD ... but it can't find any of my partitions
[06:15] <elfranger> I can see my partitions, but the extended has a lock on it and I cannot move it...
[06:16] <swarm> hmm....
[06:16] <elfranger> I need to move the extended partition to the end of the disk to make use of the extra disk space
[06:16] <swarm> thats annoying. it still does it, but shows the history -c. lol :)
[06:16] <doktoreas> but is it normal that gdm works and gnome not?
[06:16] <unimatrix9> diner is ready..
[06:16] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[06:16] <swarm> blah. now i need to figure out how to reset this mysql passwd
[06:16] <Evanlec> !gdm
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <elfranger> kind of a special disk this... it is a virtual disk in vmware so I have just expanded the virtual one so all available space is at the end of the disk
[06:17] <yell0w> hey guys, how do i turn on direct rendering for the ati radeon x200 ?
[06:17] <seaPig|wrk> elfranger, what file system are you using?
[06:17] <Evanlec> yell0w, install the ati binary driver
[06:17] <qwerkus> ok, I got another *wierd* problem for you: everytime i plug-in the battery, my laptop keeps rebooting because of "critical temperature reached (803C)". I can't even reached the login prompt. It's happening since I upgraded from edgy to feisty. Any idea ? Thanks for help :)
[06:17] <SMARTerror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <SMARTerror> try that yellow
[06:18] <yell0w> Evanlec, how ?
[06:18] <Evanlec> yell0w, ^ ^
[06:18] <SMARTerror> lol
[06:18] <SMARTerror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <SMARTerror> yell0w ^^
[06:18] <Dr_willis> 803C - wow.. thats.. toasty
[06:18] <Innomen> qwerkus: corrilation does not denote causation, jst because it happened at the same time does not mean ti was the cause, i'd take a serious look at the battery
[06:19] <Innomen> they are tiny explosives you know
[06:19] <hellonull> i am having an issue with my programs (pidgin & thunderbird) being able to access google services (talk & gmail, respectively)... anyone know what the issue might be? they are both connecting to other protocols/services fine but there are issues with the google ones
[06:19] <qwerkus> i heard that ...
[06:19] <SpiderPig> how do i enable java applet?
[06:19] <Evanlec> Innomen, lol, true that
[06:19] <SpiderPig> <- firefox
[06:19] <Innomen> *shrugs*
[06:19] <SMARTerror> download the jre
[06:19] <SpiderPig> yeah yeah did that and its installed
[06:19] <Innomen> or it could be that little chekc box hidden in the system menu "cause battery to over heat"
[06:19] <SMARTerror> then it should work
[06:19] <SpiderPig> how do i enable java applet
[06:19] <Innomen> you should just uncheck it
[06:19] <qwerkus> what do wou mean, with "a serious look": what are my options ?
[06:19] <Innomen> :P
[06:19] <SpiderPig> hmm it doesnt
[06:20] <Evanlec> hellonull, i'd look on the google support, sounds like application specific, not ubuntu specific
[06:20] <Innomen> like how long have you had it read up on the model number, see if other people have the same thing for other reasons
[06:20] <YBH_1> 13/f
[06:20] <Innomen> if you can take it to a battery place near you for inspection
[06:20] <Evanlec> lol
[06:21] <qwerkus> neven heard about that in France ...
[06:21] <Innomen> people dont recondition nbatterys in france?
[06:21] <Innomen> thats intresting
[06:21] <hellonull> Evanlec: they both work fine in other os (windows)... i have had ubuntu and windows sharing the same pidgin & thunderbird profiles for awhile... could this be the problem?
[06:21] <qwerkus> Why don't I experience the same error under 2.6.17 ?
[06:21] <doktoreas> does gdm uses the same video settings of gnome?
[06:22] <vmlinuz2> !webcam
[06:22] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:22] <Innomen> are you sure you dont?
[06:22] <Innomen> you said it started when you installed the new one
[06:22] <Innomen> but did you downgrade and see if that fixes it?
[06:22] <qwerkus> yup
[06:22] <kitche> doktoreas: it uses the same settings as Xorg so yes just might be at a different resolution though
[06:22] <Evanlec> hellonull, mm, yea probably, how did u even get that to work?
[06:22] <qwerkus> a month ago
[06:22] <Innomen> i know thats a huge PITA
[06:22] <Innomen> but still, like i said tiny explosives
[06:22] <Innomen> *shrugs*
[06:22] <hellonull> Evanlec: i moved the profiles to a FAT32 partition i have on my drive and pointed both programs' settings to them
[06:22] <fiXXXerMet> Where can I get the my-large.cnf and my-huge.cnf files, since they don't come with the mysql package?
[06:22] <doktoreas> kitche, where does gdm get the resolution?
[06:22] <Innomen> could just boot from teh version 6 cd and see if it does it
[06:22] <Everheart> Hey guys I got this problem when I try to install ubuntu it doesn't detect my harddrivers, anyone have any experience with this?
[06:23] <qwerkus> could it be an acpi-related problem ?
[06:23] <doktoreas> i set xorg.conf to 1024 and it is still at 640
[06:23] <Innomen> if it dosent then you know for sure its the software
[06:23] <Evanlec> hellonull, i see, well for troubleshooting purposes i would create a new profile and try that
[06:23] <kitche> doktoreas: from itself I believe
[06:23] <yell0w> Evanlec, fglrx is running, but no direct rendering
[06:23] <Innomen> and people could help ypou fgrom there
[06:23] <Innomen> that i cant tell you cuz i'm a ubuntu newb
[06:23] <Innomen> but i'm not an eletronics newb :)
[06:23] <mastaofdisasta> has anyone eve tried NIC bonding?
[06:23] <Evanlec> yell0w, did u try rebooting? ;p
[06:23] <mastaofdisasta> on ubuntu?
, which CD are you talking about ?
[06:24] <elfranger> !webcam
[06:24] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:24] <yell0w> Evanlec, it's been running since the beginning
[06:24] <Evanlec> yell0w, u have to install the ati binary drivers
[06:24] <Innomen> any install cd of ubuntu works as a live bootable OS dosent it?
[06:24] <Innomen> recent ones anyway
[06:24] <kitche> Innomen: the desktop ones do
[06:24] <Innomen> i know 7 is, i thoink 6 is too
[06:24] <qwerkus> ah, you mean a live-cd
[06:24] <elfranger> seapig: sorry for the late reply... can I pm you?
[06:25] <qwerkus> ?
[06:25] <Innomen> yes
[06:25] <Innomen> sorry i want clear
[06:25] <Innomen> i been up way way too long
[06:25] <yell0w> Evanlec, yes, it's was installed, but  when i do glxinfo , there's no direct rendering
[06:25] <kav2k> Hello everyone, there is something I'm trying to figure out: I installed KDE into standard ubuntu installation, and now can't find any way to change screen resolution from within KDE. Ubuntu installed into virtualbox under Windows host, my linux skills - below average.
[06:25] <qwerkus> As I said: i'm working on the same laptop everyday with 2.6.17 kernel without any prob
[06:25] <hellonull> Evanlec: good suggestion, will try
[06:25] <Innomen> so you can make the problem go away and come back?
[06:26] <qwerkus> but everytime I boot the other kernel: paf: critical temp reached
[06:26] <Innomen> ahhhh
[06:26] <Innomen> i totally misunderstood
[06:26] <qwerkus> sry
[06:26] <Innomen> my apologies
[06:26] <qwerkus> my poor explanations
[06:26] <Innomen> no, totally my bad
[06:26] <Innomen> :P
[06:26] <Innomen> dont argue it was my fault and thats final
[06:26] <Innomen> :P :)
[06:26] <Evanlec> lol
[06:26] <hellonull> Evanlec: i think it is probably related to the protocols... msn-based ones are doing the same thing
[06:26] <qwerkus> the odds of civilization ...
[06:26] <Innomen> heheh
[06:27] <SpiderPig> innomen i agree with you 100%
[06:27] <elfranger> hm...
[06:27] <hhshs> test
[06:27] <Lunz> can anyone help me setting up wireless DWL-G122 USB Wireless
[06:27] <Lunz> can anyone help me setting up wireless DWL-G122 USB Wireless?
[06:27] <Innomen> spiderpig: thank you :P
[06:27] <SpiderPig> :D
[06:27] <kitche> !repeat | Lunz
[06:27] <ubotu> Lunz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:28] <Lunz> please...
[06:28] <elfranger> everyone, I have a disk with standard partitions from an ubuntu 7.04 server install... one ext3 (10GB) and one linux swap in an extended partition (478MB). On the end of the disk I have 90GB of unallocated space...
[06:28] <hhshs> gutsy!gutsy
[06:28] <theRealballchal1> question, so how does linux implement the WPA support for intel 2200bg cards?
[06:28] <elfranger> how do I proceed to making the 10GB partition into a 100GB partition?
[06:28] <mastaofdisasta> has anyone ever tried NIC bonding with ubuntu?
[06:28] <elfranger> I have booted on the ubuntu livecd and is currently in gparted
, do you where I could find a solution ?
[06:28] <hhshs> !GUTSY
[06:28] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:29] <elfranger> btw, who comes up with the Ubuntu release names?
[06:29] <Innomen> qwerkus: no man, sorry i don't, i'm very new to ubuntu
[06:29] <trax> Hello everyone!
[06:29] <Pici> !codenames | elfranger
[06:29] <ubotu> elfranger: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[06:29] <qwerkus> k
[06:29] <elfranger> cool
[06:29] <mastaofdisasta>  /win 2
[06:29] <Evanlec> lol
[06:29] <qwerkus> have a nice day :)
[06:29] <dagobert> i voted for Fellating Faun
[06:30] <Evanlec> haha
[06:30] <elfranger> may someone please devote themselved to assisting a partition_newbie?
[06:30] <dagobert> i think ubuntu release names are less than awesome
[06:30] <acee1234> installing ubuntu from the live disk crashes the x server. i've gone throught the fix once but the link was lost in a format something about changing the xorg.conf file. Any suggestions
[06:30] <asokito_24> i need help
[06:30] <Evanlec> dagobert, i agree lol
[06:30] <npnuf1> I have a feisty box with auto login. some times I want to login manually.  What key combination should I use to prevent auto login.
[06:30] <acee1234> GPU is ati x1400
[06:30] <asokito_24> I had changed my beryl configuration to xgl
[06:30] <soundray> mastaofdisasta: I think it's called multipath routing, so perhaps you want to search for that.
[06:30] <asokito_24> and now it doesn't funk
[06:30] <elfranger> so, what animal is a gibbon?
[06:31] <Evanlec> a baboon? ;p
[06:31] <Innomen> they should make a blackhat release of ubuntu, the merchandising alone would skyrocket its popularity
[06:31] <elfranger> yup
[06:31] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[06:31] <Evanlec> lol
[06:31] <leo_rockw> elfranger, a gibbon is a type of monkey
[06:31] <Pici> !ot
[06:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:31] <vmlinuz2> hi, why my webcam works with luvcview works but not with camorama and other programs? no such as device tell me
[06:31] <asokito_24> how can I change my beryl configuration from TErminal
[06:31] <asokito_24> ???
[06:31] <trytrys> EVANLEC... What is so funny
[06:31] <trytrys> ?
[06:31] <soundray> elfranger: that's a gutsy question. Please take it to #ubuntu+1 ;)
[06:31] <vmlinuz2> but uvc drivers are loaded
[06:31] <kav2k> !patience
[06:31] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:32] <elfranger> soundray: haha
[06:32] <Evanlec> trytrys, the less than awesome release names of ubuntu ;p
[06:32] <acee1234> if no one has a suggestion where should i ask?
[06:32] <elfranger> need help resizing partition...
[06:32] <Innomen> they should start doing insects
[06:32] <trytrys> thanks for Sure :)
[06:32] <Innomen> ants dragon flyes wasps mantids
[06:32] <trytrys> See ya ;] 
[06:32] <kavoor> any guide for compiz fusion on intel ?
[06:32] <soundray> !fixres > acee1234, please read the private message from ubotu
[06:33] <kitche> kavoor: get compiz working first then go on to the plugins
[06:33] <leo_rockw> Innomen, Ubuntu 9.4 Wascally Wabbit
[06:33] <kavoor> kitche: i have tried beryl and compiz
[06:33] <Innomen> niiice heheh
[06:33] <kavoor> i wanna try fusiion
[06:33] <soundray> !compiz > kavoor, please read the private message from ubotu
[06:33] <kitche> kavoor: well compiz fusion is just compiz with addons
[06:33] <Innomen> ubuntu 11 Wile E. Coyote super genius
[06:33] <kitche> kavoor: since compiz fusion != compiz but it uses compiz
[06:34] <Evanlec> leo_rockw, LOL
[06:34] <Innomen> leo_rockw: i am so good at sptealing your ideas
[06:34] <Innomen> :P
[06:34] <leo_rockw> Innomen, they need to be alliterative
[06:34] <elfranger> aaargh!
[06:34] <acee1234> soundray how is that going to get it to install?
[06:34] <Innomen> yea i know
[06:34] <elfranger> stupid partitions
[06:34] <kavoor> kitche: seeing forums
[06:34] <elfranger> they won't do what I want them to do
[06:34] <swarm> grr :(
[06:34] <Innomen> how about Daffy then
[06:35] <swarm> i hate mysql already.
[06:35] <elfranger> Floppy Daffy
[06:35] <leo_rockw> Innomen, Edubuntu 8.10 Ranting Racoon
[06:35] <n4nobit> elfranger: use fdisk
[06:35] <swarm> simple thing like setting a password is so hard.
[06:35] <soundray> acee1234: you asked about fixing xorg.conf
[06:35] <Innomen> ranting racoon
[06:35] <Innomen> *looks wistful*
[06:35] <leo_rockw> Innomen, with daffy? Delirious Daffy
[06:35] <acee1234> soundray: ask the bot?
[06:35] <elfranger> n4obit: really? can I move partitions using fdisk?
[06:35] <npnuf1> I have a feisty box with auto login. some times I want to login manually.  What key combination should I use to prevent auto login.
[06:35] <npnuf1> in windows it is possible by using ctrl
[06:35] <Innomen> are they all verbs?
[06:35] <Innomen> errr
[06:35] <n4nobit> hmm, well you could choose the manual setting in the install GUI and try..
[06:35] <leo_rockw> Innomen, it's adjective + animal
[06:35] <Innomen> what is that called adjectives
[06:36] <bruenig> npnuf1, how did you enable auto login? inittab or what?
[06:36] <npnuf1> gdmsetup
[06:36] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i should join the marketing team ;-)
[06:36] <soundray> npnuf1: use Quit-Switch user or Quit-Logout
[06:36] <acee1234> soundray: i cant install ubuntu from the live cd when i fixed it the first time someone linked me to a tutorial that said something about the xorg.conf file
[06:36] <bruenig> npnuf1, from a common sense perspective, I highly doubt that you could prevent it
[06:36] <Innomen> yea you can churn out bland easily as well as they can :P
[06:37] <leo_rockw> Innomen, thanks... i guess lol
[06:37] <leo_rockw> acee1234, what video card brand do you have?
[06:37] <K-4U> Right, could somebody help me with Vmware? when i install, it keeps telling me i've got stuff from a previous installation. but when i check synaptic. there are no files there!
[06:37] <Innomen> why not beautiful bunny?
[06:37] <asokito_24> #joinubuntu-es
[06:37] <Innomen> :P
[06:37] <Fxyz4ever> anybody can use vbox?
[06:37] <asokito_24> #join ubuntu-es
[06:37] <bruenig> npnuf1, because it would be a gdm thing, gdm would parse the config file and auto-login almost immediately
[06:37] <Innomen> lecherous leopard :P
[06:38] <bruenig> npnuf1, so if there were such a thing, to even hit the combination would be a crap shoot
[06:38] <leo_rockw> asokito_24, the command is "/join #ubuntu-es
[06:38] <acee1234>  leo_rockw:  ati x1400
[06:38] <soundray> acee1234: how far do you get?
[06:38] <leo_rockw> acee1234, lol... lemme find my post in the ubuntu forums then
[06:38] <leo_rockw> acee1234, i have that same card
[06:38] <acee1234>  leo_rockw:  thank you
[06:38] <leo_rockw> Innomen, beautiful bunny is not as kewl as ranting racoon. period haha
[06:38] <Innomen> i have to agree :)
[06:39] <Innomen> but ranting racoon is not as cool as blackhat
[06:39] <acee1234>  soundray: i dont remember what the last line was on the screen befor i get the bllue scrren telling me x server died
[06:39] <npnuf1> bruenig; so it is not possible to stop auto login because of gdm
[06:39] <Innomen> how about gate crasher
[06:39] <Innomen> thats could be a fun name that you could read alot into
[06:39] <genii> raving raccoon
[06:39] <K-4U> acee1234: Since when does ubuntu have a BSoD?
[06:39] <soundray> acee1234: were you booting from the CD at the time?
[06:39] <Innomen> i just see alot of potential here
[06:39] <kitche> K-4U: for a while :)
[06:39] <K-4U> Right, could somebody help me with Vmware? when i install, it keeps telling me i've got stuff from a previous installation. but when i check synaptic. there are no files there!
[06:40] <Innomen> ubuntu is good because as far as the americna public goes they made up a word :P
[06:40] <UbuntuGuy> HI -- Problem with glxgears and i810 driver in feisty.  at startup, X says " AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so", but glxgears says drmMap of framebuffer failed (invalid argument) and "Direct Rendering: No".  Any ideas how to get it working?
[06:40] <K-4U> just asking again ^-^
[06:40] <acee1234> K-4U: windows emulation?
[06:40] <venom> hi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there
[06:40] <acee1234> soundray:
[06:40] <bruenig> npnuf1, you have to understand how boot and init works, it is just one thing after another launching, it's not some OS wide centralized thing, it is disparate software developed by different people all put together and launched one after another, gdm is launched at the end
[06:40] <stefgl> K-4U: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware
[06:40] <penguincentral> what's a chmod?
[06:40] <leo_rockw> acee1234, i have so many posts in the ubuntu forums, lol... this will take like 2 more minutes, bear w/ me
[06:40] <acee1234> soundray: yes
[06:40] <venom> it says alot about error or something
[06:40] <venom> hi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there
[06:40] <venom> it says alot about error or something
[06:40] <K-4U> stefgl: Thnx, let's try
[06:40] <GreyGhost> !makeinfo
[06:40] <faemir> ACTION gives GreyGhost the golden fleece
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makeinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <faemir> ACTION gives GreyGhost a baseball bat
[06:40] <Lorvija> hiya. Wondering if it's possible to make my computer hibernate after 30 mins of idle time despite who is using computer or even if noone is logged in?
[06:41] <acee1234>  leo_rockw:np
[06:41] <npnuf1> bruenig; I understood.
[06:41] <venom> anyone got any ideas for me ??
[06:41] <soundray> acee1234: have you tried the Safe Graphics option?
[06:41] <bruenig> npnuf1, it reads its config file and does what it needs to do, for there to be some key combination they would have to build in some lag time where it just sits and waits to see if you hit it
[06:41] <stefgl> !offtopic
[06:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:41] <acee1234> soundray: yes
[06:41] <venom> hi guys bit of a problem when ever i try and run the live CD i only ever get the green scrolling writing up top then it goes black and i have white MSdos like writing at the bottom and it stops there
[06:41] <Innomen> venom: we saw ya man
[06:42] <venom> sorry
[06:42] <Innomen> just nothing springs to mind
[06:42] <venom> just so many people
[06:42] <Innomen> i hear you
[06:42] <bruenig> npnuf1, which is stupid obviously, you could script something that would allow you to specify when you shutdown whether the next time you wanted it to login or not
[06:42] <venom> well its not the CD ive burnt it then i ordered 2 and none work
[06:42] <Innomen> thats kind if an easy problem to describe, have you looked around on the forums?
[06:43] <leo_rockw> venom, what video card?
[06:43] <stefgl> So what does the writing say, venom ? You know, programmers like to put confusing MS-DOS like messages on screen to scare off new users :-)
[06:43] <Innomen> i came here because my problem was kinda hard to put into words
[06:43] <venom> and it just seems to give me the same bit of writing at the bottom all the time and ive got a intel vid card wit 64mb ram
[06:43] <leo_rockw> acee1234, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3129695&postcount=4
[06:43] <npnuf1> bruenig; thanks, I understood that I should logout and login again.  I have to continue with my mounting problems.
[06:44] <mzuverink> I have a fat32 WD My Book, named as "My Book".  It causes all kinds of problems due to the space and I either want to know how to change it, or if there is a secret to working with spaces in filenames.  Formating is out of the question unless you have a spare 500 gigs for me to use as backup.  I just want to change the name.  I noticed in mtab, it is reffered to as follows: " /dev/sdb1 /media/My\040Book"  Can I change the na
[06:44] <mzuverink> me somehow without formatting the drive?
[06:44] <stefgl> !doesn't work | venom, we're not psychic readers
[06:44] <ubotu> venom, we're not psychic readers: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:44] <venom> i dn it gives me a bunch of white writing and well one of them say something abbout error then a bunch of numbers
[06:44] <soundray> acee1234: when you get to that blue screen, see if you can switch to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1. If so, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', which calls a wizard for reconfiguring xorg.conf
[06:44] <Innomen> god
[06:44] <Innomen> you guys scold people so much you have shortcuts for it
[06:44] <Innomen> that is a scream
[06:44] <Innomen> and kinda neurotic :P
[06:44] <soundray> acee1234: failing that, I suggest you download the Alternate CD, which has a text-based installer
[06:45] <Evanlec> lol
[06:45] <leo_rockw> soundray, not necessary
[06:45] <frogduster> Eek.
[06:45] <leo_rockw> soundray, i have that same video card
[06:45] <soundray> Innomen: it's also essential for keeping this channel under control
[06:45] <mzuverink> the use of "!..." anything has gotten ridiculous around here
[06:45] <Innomen> heh
[06:45] <acee1234>  soundray: ok thank you
[06:46] <acee1234>  leo_rockw: able to apt-get without internet?
[06:46] <penguincentral> mzuverink: it's to call on the bot ;)
[06:46] <leo_rockw> mzuverink, i enter this channel just to wait for anybody to ask about automatix so i can pull a "!automatix | noob"
[06:46] <Innomen> and here i thought all those thoughtcops hiding in the crowd like they are innocent shopkeeps did that :P but yea i totally see the purpose but i stand behind my statement, its crazy and funny :)
[06:46] <venom> im not to sure what my video card is but i do no that ive used ubuntu on a diffrent PC wit the same cd wit no problem
[06:46] <leo_rockw> acee1234, i believe so
[06:46] <leo_rockw> acee1234, you have to do a sudo apt-get update first
[06:46] <venom> i wish i could get a screeny of the error i get
[06:46] <usr13> Trying to use kpilot to connect to a Treo 650 and it's not happening.  It appears to be trying to connect to /dev/pilot  but /dev/pilot does not exist.  So....?
[06:46] <soundray> acee1234: I'll leave you in the capable hands of leo_rockw. Thanks leo_rockw
[06:47] <acee1234>  leo_rockw: alright ill give it a go thank much all of you
[06:47] <leo_rockw> acee1234, and it will pull the packet from the cd
[06:47] <leo_rockw> acee1234, np
[06:47] <acee1234>  leo_rockw: alright
[06:47] <sacamano> anyone have a good .deb package for Sopcast with GUI"?
[06:47] <soundray> usr13: is it connected via USB?
[06:47] <Innomen> hey leo_rockw, whats this automatrix you speak of? :)
[06:47] <leo_rockw> soundray, i have that same video card so i wrote a how-to for it
[06:47] <leo_rockw> !automatix | Innomen
[06:47] <venom> is there any other way for me to try ubuntu without the boot up xcuz its just not going to work
[06:47] <ubotu> Innomen: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:48] <soundray> leo_rockw: is it online?
[06:48] <leo_rockw> Innomen, ;-)
[06:48] <Innomen> ahh how informative :)
[06:48] <leo_rockw> soundray, yeah... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3129695&postcount=4
[06:48] <Innomen> thank you
[06:48] <usr13> soundray, yes, usb cable
[06:48] <Innomen> and here i tuought it had something to do with optimus prime
[06:48] <leo_rockw> Innomen, oh, my pleasure
[06:49] <soundray> usr13: try a 'sudo ln -sf /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/pilot' to link the device name to the actual device.
[06:49] <leo_rockw> Innomen, no... that's the gimp
[06:49] <soundray> leo_rockw: thanks. Do you know if gutsy has the same trouble?
[06:49] <leo_rockw> soundray, i am using gutsy, but i upgraded from feisty so idk
[06:50] <venom> well its really strange i load the cd thats fine then i press start i get some greenlines behind the ubuntu screen then it all goes black wit a bunch of errors on the bottom indecated by numbers
[06:50] <atlfalcons866> how do i delete ubuntu
[06:50] <sonetre> Hi all, first time installing ubuntu and it stops booting with: VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb7" or unknown-block(0,0) / I tried different root=.. options in grub but the same result...any help would be really appreciated
[06:50] <Innomen> venom i'd snag the alt version and do the txt installer
[06:50] <Innomen> or did someone already say that
[06:50] <soundray> leo_rockw: well done for writing that howto
[06:50] <leo_rockw> atlfalcons866, a big magnet will do the trick
[06:51] <venom> can u tell me were to get it
[06:51] <leo_rockw> soundray, :-D
[06:51] <leo_rockw> soundray, a sticky for it would be kewl
[06:51] <atlfalcons866> not delete ubuntu i meant remove gnome
[06:51] <Innomen> maybe the bot can
[06:51] <atlfalcons866> i installed kde and i love it
[06:51] <Innomen> is there a command guys for where to get the alternative version?
[06:51] <Innomen> !alternate
[06:51] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:51] <Innomen> there we go
[06:51] <Innomen> good guess
[06:51] <Piaskal> hi
[06:51] <stefgl> http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html <- good guide on how to ask questions and get an actual answer
[06:52] <Innomen> (12:50:49 PM) leo_rockw: atlfalcons866, a big magnet will do the trick
[06:52] <Innomen> lol
[06:52] <usr13> soundray,  /dev/ttyUSB0  does not exist on my system.  (OS = 7.04)
[06:52] <leo_rockw> Innomen, you're evil! lol
[06:52] <Pici> Innomen: Theres a checkbox on the download page on ubuntu.com for the alternate cd.
[06:52] <Innomen> right on
[06:52] <leo_rockw> atlfalcons866, there's a very easy way, but i don't remember it. lemme google it
[06:52] <Innomen> venom was askin and i figured the bot would know
[06:52] <genii> atlfalcons866: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop           (if you have already apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop)
[06:52] <Innomen> i deserve a freakin oreo
[06:52] <leo_rockw> atlfalcons866, or do what genii says ;-)
[06:52] <soundray> usr13: it should once you plug the Treo in. Do a 'ls /dev/ttyUSB*' - it may have a different number.
[06:53] <leo_rockw> Innomen, mmmhhh... ooooreooo
[06:53] <soundray> usr13: in fact, there may be two devices.
[06:53] <Cyber_Stalker> umm
[06:53] <Innomen> day 3 and i'm answerin questions
[06:53] <Cyber_Stalker> i have xmms and im struggling to play media on a disk
[06:53] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i can't do this every day
[06:53] <Innomen> leo_rockw:  i know man shut up *drool*
[06:53] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i enque the shiznit on the disk with xmms
[06:53] <Innomen> *searches for cookies*
[06:53] <venom> all i ever wanted was a good LINUX :( DAM PC'S DAM THEM TO COMPUTER HELL
[06:53] <usr13> I see:  /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyUSB0    after issuing above comand.  But,    ls /dev/ttyUSB0   says that the file does not exist.
[06:53] <smacfarl> so i was running the 7.10 update when I had a power failure! If I rerun will I be able to just pick up where it was stopped?
[06:53] <Innomen> venom: dude
[06:53] <Innomen> go get the alt
[06:53] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i hang out in the argentina LoCo all day. i run out of questions to answer so i come here.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Stalker,  open up the playlist, add a directory (or drag/drop files) you may want to use somthing other then xmms - xmms is geting a bit out of date.
[06:54] <Innomen> it'll solve yur problem
[06:54] <venom> IM WORKING ON IT INNOMEN
[06:54] <Innomen> ok ok
[06:54] <Innomen> lol
[06:54] <Innomen> sorry man
[06:54] <soundray> usr13: ls /dev/ttyUSB*
[06:54] <Piaskal> is ther any way to make ubiquity not run "ntfsresize -i -f" when installing ubuntu. i got 150 gb ntfs partition and it takes ages.
[06:54] <usr13> soundray,  there may be two devices?
[06:54] <smacfarl> anyone?
[06:54] <Cyber_Stalker> Dr_willis:
[06:54] <leo_rockw> venom... you need to fight the symbionte. big bells will help you get rid of it. it worked for peter parker
[06:54] <Innomen> if it makes you feel better my umbutu install fried my mbr and now niether os will boot
[06:54] <stefgl> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- even better guide on how to ask questions, most of which you're able to answer yourself after reading it :-)
[06:55] <venom> im getting the dapper version think it will solve my problem innomen ??
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i browse to the disk... cause i have checking /media/ and none of the cdrom links have any tracks
[06:55] <smacfarl> powerful during 7.10 update, will the update be able to fix this if I rerun it?
[06:55] <leo_rockw> Innomen, how come? grub doesn't touch the mbr
[06:55] <smacfarl> anyone?
[06:55] <usr13>  No such file or directory
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> !music
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Innomen> leo_rockw: wow are you a big dork for knowing that or am i a big dork for knowing that
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> !musicplayer
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about musicplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> !music player
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music player - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[06:55] <Innomen> leo_rockw: something did
[06:55] <leo_rockw> Innomen, we both are big dorks
[06:55] <Cyber_Stalker> !mp3
[06:55] <smacfarl> are there any experts in the channel?
[06:55] <sonetre> Hi all, first time installing ubuntu and it stops booting with: VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb7" or unknown-block(0,0) / I tried different root=.. options in grub but the same result...any help would be really appreciated
[06:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:55] <stefgl> !player | Cyber_Stalker
[06:55] <ubotu> Cyber_Stalker: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:55] <Innomen> it wont install on my machine
[06:55] <leo_rockw> smacfarl, yes, Innomen
[06:55] <Innomen> spent 5-6 hours on it
[06:56] <Innomen> ask ikonia if you see her
[06:56] <Marfi> on my menu bar, everything under "applications" is gone. how do i recover it?
[06:56] <Cyber_Stalker> would audacious be best
[06:56] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[06:56] <wwalker> I want to be able to click in a window without raising the window to the top.  Where do I change that?
[06:56] <stefgl> !best | Cyber_Stalker
[06:56] <Innomen> i'm backing up in prep for a total wipe
[06:56] <ubotu> Cyber_Stalker: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:56] <Poundo> has anyone has success connecting a usb drive to linux on vmware I asked over at vmware must be lunch time
[06:56] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, what are you trying to do?
[06:56] <soundray> usr13: yes -- Ubuntu creates two e.g. for my wife's Palm T|X
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Stalker,  thats an audio EDITOR program.
[06:56] <alcoholic> My resolv.conf gets override again and again by network manager and i have to manually edit it and give the nameserver. i dont know why its getting override can any one help me with it
[06:56] <Dr_willis> oh wait thats audacity.. :)
[06:56] <smacfarl> innomen my 7.10 upgrade was interrupted by a power failure. Will restarting the upgrade with gksudo update-manager -c -d fix things?
[06:56] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis, no, it isn't
[06:56] <Dr_willis> my mistake.
[06:56] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well which would be the most popular music player
[06:56] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis, yeah, lol
[06:56] <Dr_willis> too many aud's :)
[06:56] <jport> i like amarok
[06:56] <Cyber_Stalker> i just wanna be able to play my music simply
[06:56] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, AMAROK!
[06:56] <usr13> I see: /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  etc,,
[06:56] <Marfi> amarok ftw
[06:56] <Cyber_Stalker> ok
[06:57] <Cyber_Stalker> apt get here i come
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Stalker,  install a few try them.. if you cant figure out xmms.. well.. thats not a good sign. :)
[06:57] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, you did install the propietary codecs, right?
[06:57] <kitche> smacfarl: it "should"
[06:57] <Cyber_Stalker> nah xmms just giving hastles
[06:57] <murlidhar> my media player Listen keeps hanging why???
[06:57] <Innomen> smacfarl: i dont see why not, but i dont know what gksudo means and i've only got 3 days exp with ubuntu, ask leo here
[06:57] <Cyber_Stalker> leo_rockw: as far as i know yes
[06:57] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, ok... just making sure
[06:57] <Cyber_Stalker> it was a while ago that i set up my music shiznit
[06:57] <Dr_willis> xmms playlist has a + button, add dir.. point it to the muzak dir.
[06:57] <enano> Hi! Can anyone take a look here, http://rafb.net/p/WdprDM59.html and tell me why I get those errors when compiling (their at the bottom), I can't figure it out. Thanks!
[06:57] <leo_rockw> murlidhar, we will probly need more information
[06:57] <thomash_> hi
[06:57] <smacfarl> leo is gksudo update-manager -c -d the correct command to restart my upgrade tp 7.10
[06:57] <smacfarl> ?
[06:58] <Pici> smacfarl: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:58] <Innomen> i installed ubuntu on my laptop drunk out of my mind, very user friendly
[06:58] <Cyber_Stalker> why does amarok have to download 50mb of stuff...
[06:58] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[06:58] <murlidhar> leo_rockw: wait
[06:58] <Innomen> but my desktop is just angry with me for even suggesting ubuntu
[06:58] <kitche> smacfarl: as I said it should start where it left off
[06:58] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, because it uses the qt libraries
[06:58] <thomash_> i'm running feisty... it doesn't seem to provide the latest version of imagemagick. any way I can install a newer version using a package?
[06:58] <venom> innomen would u be able to ponit me to some alt installers ??
[06:58] <Innomen> venom did you see the bot thing?
[06:58] <leo_rockw> smacfarl, if you dont know it, then you probly shouldnt be upgrading to gutsy anyway
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Stalker,  lots of dependencies would be my guess
[06:58] <Innomen> !alternative
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <Innomen> !alternative
[06:59] <leo_rockw> !alternate | venom
[06:59] <ubotu> venom: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:59] <stefgl> !download
[06:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:59] <Innomen> gah
[06:59] <Innomen> yea what he said
[06:59] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i told you. i come to this channel to do the ! thing
[06:59] <Cyber_Stalker> i dont want to/cant download 50mb of stuff atm
[06:59] <Innomen> i';ll let you handle it
[06:59] <leo_rockw> Cyber_Stalker, then use rythmbox
[06:59] <Innomen> :P
[06:59] <leo_rockw> Innomen, ty! lol
[06:59] <Innomen> ok then mr smarty pants
[06:59] <venom> i couldn't find it innomen ive just tried to find it
[06:59] <Innomen> hmmm
[07:00] <Innomen> you're i386 right?
[07:00] <Poundo> how can I tell what the device is thats mounted at say /dev/sda5 or /dev/sda2
[07:00] <Innomen> i'll go get you a link
[07:00] <leo_rockw> venom, seriously... the alternate install is in the ubuntu web page
[07:00] <venom> TY VM
[07:00] <Pici> venom: Its on the ubuntu.com/download page, there is a checkbox if you want the alternate cd
[07:00] <Innomen> you want a torrent or a direct dl?
[07:00] <venom> wait a sec
[07:00] <Pici> !away > EldemonAWAY (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:00] <Innomen> i dont mind doing the grunt work for him
[07:00] <Cyber_Stalker> leo_rockw: coudlnt find package :D
[07:00] <venom> is this like having to burn it onto CD ?
[07:00] <stefgl> Cyber_Stalker: amarok is a KDE app, so it pulls all the KDE-libs as dependency. try exaile for a gtk (gnome) equivalent
[07:00] <Innomen> i would assume so
[07:00] <soundray> Poundo: try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if that answers your question
[07:00] <Innomen> can you install it off a usb?
[07:01] <Innomen> !usb
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <venom> becuse ive got like 3 CD shipped from Ubuntu its self
[07:01] <Cyber_Stalker> ahhh nice
[07:01] <Innomen> !flashdrive
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Cyber_Stalker> 500kb of download
[07:01] <Pici> !msgthebot | Innomen
[07:01] <Cyber_Stalker> decent :D
[07:01] <ubotu> Innomen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:01] <leo_rockw> venom, the canonical cds are non alternate
[07:01] <Duke_nuke> !joystick
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <venom> so the CD's are whats screweu
[07:01] <Innomen> uhhh
[07:01] <Innomen> pici: thats very confusing
[07:01] <lpagnoni> q
[07:01] <Poundo> soundray: no that jsut lists the devices no indication of what they actually are
[07:01] <leo_rockw> Innomen, don't annoy ubotu, he's kewl
[07:01] <venom> right hang on
[07:02] <venom> let me explane
[07:02] <Pici> Innomen: Whats confusing?
[07:02] <Innomen> i didnt relize i was
[07:02] <murlidhar> ok when after importing a folder my media application works good but the moment i play a song it just hangs although i can hear the music. Here is the pastebin when i start from terminal
[07:02] <lpagnoni> hello
[07:02] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39386/
[07:02] <soundray> Poundo: I'm not sure what kind of information you are looking for.
[07:02] <hume> hi... I am trying to copy a vcd disc with k3b, but get error - k3b complains about the video cd contains multiple data tracks - how come? how can I then copy a vcd?
[07:02] <Innomen> the use of the bot
[07:02] <Innomen> explain to me what that investigate means
[07:02] <usr13> soundray, Any other ideas
[07:02] <KidProQuo> \join #ubuntu-meeting
[07:02] <Poundo> soundray: i would like to know if sda2 is the cdrom or is it sda5
[07:02] <Innomen> i'm not allowed to use ! commands to get an answer?
[07:03] <venom> i have 3 Cds from Ubuntu but i can't run them passed the start screen it just stops dead with a black screen with white writing at the bottom so unless there is a diffrent way to install im stuck
[07:03] <soundray> Poundo: neither. Both are partitions on your first hard disk drive.
[07:03] <g0rd0n> is there a skype version for ubuntu amd64?
[07:03] <Innomen> venom can you not dl and burn cds at the moment?
[07:03] <venom> so thats whats wrong
[07:03] <penguin42> g0rd0n: You can run most 32bit stuff on amd64 with a bit of patience
[07:03] <soundray> usr13: what did 'ls /dev/ttyUSB*' say?
[07:03] <RonMetal> hablan espaol??
[07:03] <stefgl> Innomen: feel free to bother ubotu with /msg ubotu factoid
[07:03] <soundray> !es | RonMetal
[07:03] <ubotu> RonMetal: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:03] <venom> well yea but ive downloaded ubuntu about 5 times same problem
[07:03] <Pici> Innomen: Not if you are unsure what the command is.  either `/msg ubotu` to figure out the right syntax or dont.
[07:04] <Innomen> ahhhh
[07:04] <Cyber_Stalker> when i insert a cd "sound juicer" pops up and offers to play the tracks but i cant play it with anything else
[07:04] <Innomen> oky you dont want me hacking it (to use the original meaning)
[07:04] <Pici> venom: Are any of them the alternate CD?
[07:04] <Poundo> soundray: oh so how can i tell if I have the usb connected and can then mount it if i don't see it via fdsik -l
[07:04] <Innomen> but its cool if i know what i'm after, right?
[07:04] <Innomen> venom: yea but did you get the laternate version?
[07:04] <venom> how can i tell pici and eem whats ur idea of hacking it cuz im open to sergestions innomen
[07:04] <Pici> Innomen: Yes. but dont spam 5 !factoids at one person either, thats annoying.  Not that I saw this, but just in general.
[07:05] <g0rd0n> penguin42: is there a deb package or something?
[07:05] <leo_rockw> Innomen, ubotu is so kewl. i've seen a lot of users trying to talk w/ it before.
[07:05] <soundray> Poundo: try lsusb to see if the device is recognized
[07:05] <Innomen> pici: cool cool thats fair
[07:05] <venom> how can i tell if they are autinative ??
[07:05] <Innomen> leo_rockw: i usta talk to alice bot all the time
[07:05] <Pici> venom: Is it the LiveCD?
[07:05] <penguin42> g0rd0n: There are packages caleld ia32blah - do an apt-cache search for ia32-*  and install all of those, and I think there is a package called linux32
[07:05] <Innomen> venom: just sit tight i'll hand you a link
[07:05] <soundray> Poundo: and 'dmesg | tail' after plugging in to see the device name assigned
[07:05] <Innomen> !alternate
[07:05] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:05] <venom> i think they are live yea
[07:05] <leo_rockw> Innomen, i have spleak... she's just dumb
[07:05] <Cyber_Stalker> 7 minutes to rip a cd...
[07:05] <Cyber_Stalker> gosh
[07:05] <Innomen> brb
[07:05] <Cyber_Stalker> what is this world comming to
[07:05] <venom> the live that also allows install
[07:05] <Pici> venom: Okay, then thats not the AlternateCD.
[07:06] <venom> so the alternatecd might let me install ?
[07:06] <Pici> venom: The alternateCD has greater compatibility with different hardware.
[07:06] <venom> ooo
[07:06] <atlfalcons866> linus torvalds dosent like gnome
[07:06] <Poundo> soundray: lsusb didn't show anything. I'll check dmesg
[07:06] <leo_rockw> venom, the alternate cd is for text installation
[07:06] <Pici> venom: Much greater chance than using the liveCD.
[07:06] <magnetron> atlfalcons866: so?
[07:06] <leo_rockw> atlfalcons866, no, he asked people to switch to kde
[07:06] <venom> will it allow me to run it live b4 install ??
[07:06] <Innomen> venom: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[07:06] <leo_rockw> venom, no it wont
[07:06] <atlfalcons866> he says
[07:06] <Pici> venom: No. It wont
[07:06] <atlfalcons866> "This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do."
[07:06] <Pici> !offtopic | atlfalcons866
[07:07] <ubotu> atlfalcons866: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:07] <venom> cuz i don't wanna go wiping my whole XP and ty Innomen
[07:07] <soundray> Poundo: did it show busses at least?
[07:07] <Innomen> np, best i can do
[07:07] <Innomen> i newb but not lazy heheh
[07:07] <Malique> Well guys, #debian wasn't much fun. They tend to ignore you, and fail to read what your asking, and were no help to me at all :(
[07:07] <Innomen> Malique: this is the only place i've ever had linux people even talk to me without useing racial slurs
[07:08] <venom> will i beable to make a new part in my harddrive or will i have to use some sort of program
[07:08] <Poundo> soundray: nothing i tried lsusb -v and zip
[07:08] <leo_rockw> Innomen, that's their way of saying i <3 you
[07:08] <Innomen> i know but it gets old
[07:08] <rav> Hey, does anyone know how i can enable rendering on 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[07:08] <soundray> Malique: I don't think your problem can be solved, due to the limitations of HTTP
[07:08] <Innomen> i grew up in kentucky, i really hate the race thing
[07:08] <leo_rockw> Innomen, rtfm is uber love
[07:08] <murlidhar> somebody help when i play a song in my media player "listen" it gets hanged up as if i am using a windows vista http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39386/
[07:08] <penguin42> rav: That should work ok with feisty
[07:09] <rafael__> hello. how can i play dvd on ubuntu ?
[07:09] <rafael__> is it possible ?
[07:09] <Pici> !dvd > rafael__ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:09] <leo_rockw> rafael__, yes it is
[07:09] <venom> OMG im ganan be here forever its downloading at 13 KBs
[07:09] <rafael__> thank u
[07:09] <Malique> LOL, I had one who implied I was stupid when he didn't even read what I was after, when I posted it TWICE in an extended and simplistic way for his timy brain to comprehend LOL
[07:09] <venom> OMG im ganan be here forever its downloading at 13 KBs
[07:09] <Innomen> anyone remeber the term "lamer" ?
[07:09] <rav> yeah, i thought so too, but i did that glxinfo | grep direct
[07:09] <rav>  and i got a big fat no
[07:09] <bastid_raZor> Innomen: i live in KY now.. South Eastern area..
[07:09] <elfranger> I am still needing some assistance on resiziong/moving my partitions... anyone with good knowledge up for it?
[07:09] <venom> make that 7
[07:09] <Innomen> venom
[07:09] <Malique> soundray: it's not so much HTTP I think that's limited in this case, it's more apt
[07:09] <magnetron> rav: the hardware rendering is quite slow on those cards, maybe you have it enabled without noticing
[07:09] <Innomen> pick a diffrent mirrior
[07:10] <rafael__> i have libdvdcss2 and when i try to watch a dvd on vlc it doesnt load
[07:10] <Malique> It can't be redirected to HTTP addresses not on the server
[07:10] <Innomen> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[07:10] <rav> but when i glxinfo | grep direct it says no
[07:10] <rafael__> and totem says i dont have handle codec
[07:10] <rafael__> so.. i dont know
[07:10] <leo_rockw> venom, be nice and use torrents. you'll be doing the host a favor
[07:10] <magnetron> venom: do you want to download ubuntu faster? use bittorrent
[07:10] <soundray> rafael__: you nead libdvdread. Please read the link that ubotu sent.
[07:10] <rafael__> soundray, i have it
[07:10] <rafael__> :)
[07:10] <Malique> trdracer: Ubuntu is awesome, but you should expect that being in this room :) hehe
[07:10] <Innomen> my otrreent came down at half a meg a second
[07:10] <rafael__> everything ok here
[07:10] <jport> trdracer: You will never make a better decision in your life :-)
[07:10] <Innomen> it was aweinspiring
[07:11] <trdracer> i currently have xp pro sp2...and getting tiredof it.
[07:11] <trdracer> ubuntu seems user friendly.
[07:11] <Innomen> i love it so far
[07:11] <rav> so how do i enable rendering?
[07:11] <Innomen> just the idea of it being free
[07:11] <leo_rockw> rav, depends on your video card brand
[07:11] <PetarM> hi
[07:11] <venom> innomen are there any oter places for faster downloading i mean 8kbs is slow
[07:11] <Innomen> no conspiracy crap
[07:11] <leo_rockw> hi PetarM
[07:11] <elfranger> boohooo
[07:11] <jport> Innomen: how long have you been using ubuntu ?
[07:11] <trdracer> can i install over windows?
[07:11] <Innomen> venom i gave you the list
[07:11] <Innomen> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[07:12] <trdracer> and then if i dont like it install windows back right over ubuntU?
[07:12] <Innomen> pick one you think is fast
[07:12] <rav> its the integrated card on my chipset
[07:12] <PetarM> whats going on here: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15596/ ?! want to install banshee, it requires build-essential but won't install hisself
[07:12] <leo_rockw> trdracer, you can if you want
[07:12] <elfranger> trdracer: try the livecd first...
[07:12] <SlimeyPete> trdracer: you'll have to remove Windows and set up a Linux partition, but you can use the Ubuntu installer to do that.
[07:12] <soundray> trdracer: yes. Just let either installer take control of the entire disk.#
[07:12] <rav> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[07:12] <FBSoulMan> I'm trying to resolve a permissions issue with nfs.  If I try to mount an export on my client, I get "permission denied"
[07:12] <SlimeyPete> trdracer: or else you can keep Windows and dual-boot, if you have space.
[07:12] <cyrano> Hi. I've got an issue with some movies i've downloaded through torrents. Their Avi files and show an icon from the movie, but when i play them in movie player or VLC the app just closes. I can't play them in Mplayer either. I know it may well be the files being bad or corrupt, bu is there a way to debug them or check it out?
[07:12] <trdracer> i dont really have any space.
[07:12] <trdracer> so its one ofr the other
[07:13] <FBSoulMan> This export is an NTFS partition I mounted on the server using ntfs-3g.  It shows owner and group root but rwx for user grp and world
[07:13] <venom> there we go ty innomen
[07:13] <Innomen> np
[07:13] <venom> its going much faster now
[07:13] <Malique> Ahh dual boot, the only reason I have ever needed that since switching is to run certain games that don't run native or under wine. And since I upgraded my computer a few months ago I still haven't reinstalled Windows on that other partition, so far haven't needed to :)
[07:13] <Innomen> Excellant
[07:13] <leo_rockw> rav, mmhh... i only did it w/ an ati, sorry
[07:13] <venom> 2 hours i can wait without going mad :P
[07:14] <FBSoulMan> I am able to mount a normal linux partition from the server on the client (home dir)
[07:14] <leo_rockw> Malique, which games? i have enough w/ tremulous
[07:14] <Innomen> maliqure thats awesome
[07:14] <Innomen> Malique* i meant
[07:14] <leo_rockw> venom, i'm guessing you never were on dial-up, huh?
[07:15] <Malique> Haven't played tremulous, but I play Guild Wars under wine, Planeshift natively, and lately I haven't played anything besides those two
[07:15] <venom> im downloading 6.06 alternate-amd-64 will that do the job ??
[07:15] <Malique> Thus the main reason why I didn't need Windows
[07:15] <`Matir> venom, why 6.06?
[07:15] <leo_rockw> Malique, if you like mmporpgs you could try regnum online
[07:15] <venom> fastest download i could find
[07:15] <venom> thats y
[07:16] <leo_rockw> venom, if you're a linux newb 64bits isn't the smartest choice
[07:16] <Pici> venom: That version is over a year old.
[07:16] <leo_rockw> Pici, it is lts anyway
[07:16] <Malique> leo_rockw: I tried Regnum, it seemed a little... foreign LOL. Unless they have another server maybe with more than 4 English-speaking people on I can talk to haha
[07:16] <venom> i can't find no links for the alternate new version thats not faster the 6kbs on my download
[07:16] <leo_rockw> Malique, i'm from argentina, just like the game lol
[07:16] <Pici> leo_rockw: I know, but I just have a feeling he'll regret it
[07:17] <leo_rockw> Pici, he'll regret more the 64bits choice...
[07:17] <Pici> venom: Most if not all of the mirrors have an alternate .
[07:17] <Pici> leo_rockw: indeed.
[07:17] <trdracer> will ubuntu delete files i currently have on my discdrive?
[07:17] <venom> so is there anything i can do
[07:17] <leo_rockw> trdracer, only if you let it
[07:17] <Innomen> well even if he gets an old one he can update
[07:17] <venom> to get a faster speed
[07:17] <Innomen> thats what i did to this laptop
[07:17] <Pici> venom: Whats the address of the file that was downloading the fastest for you?
[07:17] <rav> theres no way to enable rendering?
[07:17] <Innomen> hey maybe thats what i need to do to my desktop
[07:18] <Malique> leo_rockw: Ahhh so you probably don't have much trouble. I felt a little outside when I tried playing it LOL
[07:18] <fredikk> hello i have ubuntu breezy installed in a pc and i have some difficulties install packages with apt-get. Actually i'm thinking that maybe these repos i have do exist anymore.could this be happening?
[07:18] <leo_rockw> Malique, that's what i heard. i was pretty comfortable using argentine slang in there lol
[07:18] <venom> http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/dapper/
[07:18] <ar3ac> firefox freeze
[07:18] <ar3ac> some help ?
[07:18] <venom> it was that link
[07:18] <venom> http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/dapper/
[07:18] <Innomen> bbl peeps
[07:18] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, that's not enough information
[07:18] <visof> can i know speed distribution for lan users?
[07:19] <leo_rockw> Innomen, l8r
[07:19] <ar3ac> leo_rockw, after e dist-upgrade on my feisty
[07:19] <ar3ac> firefox crash
[07:19] <`muppet> anyone got any links for downloading ubuntu live cd? thanks
[07:19] <ar3ac> give me a Segmentation Fault
[07:19] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, did you check LP to see if anybody reported a bug?
[07:19] <Tomcat_> `muppet: www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:19] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, what ubuntu are you using?
[07:19] <ar3ac> leo_rockw, i saw something in the forum
[07:19] <visof> can i know speed distribution for lan users?
[07:20] <ar3ac> let me tell you the right thread
[07:20] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, well, i don't even use FF
[07:20] <ar3ac> leo_rockw, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563027&highlight=firefox+epiphany
[07:20] <trdracer> is it possible that if i have two separate logins ii can install ubuntu on one? (for example one is admin account and the other is another)BUT ITS WINDOWS LOGIN+
[07:20] <ar3ac> leo_rockw, same things happen with epiphany
[07:20] <atlfalcons866> will shipit have gusty gibbon cds
[07:20] <habbled> how do you format a usb hard drive on ubuntu?
[07:20] <leo_rockw> atlfalcons866, not yet
[07:20] <atlfalcons866> habbled:what fs do you want to have
[07:21] <`muppet> Tomcat_ i looked there first, it didnt seem to have the live cd downloads
[07:21] <habbled> atlfalcons866: fat32
[07:21] <Tomcat_> `muppet: "Desktop Edition" = LiveCD
[07:21] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, post in the thread and wait for an answer
[07:21] <atlfalcons866> habbled: install gparted
[07:21] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, that problem seems to be recent
[07:21] <habbled> atlfalcons866: i have kubuntu actually
[07:21] <leo_rockw> ar3ac, use a different browser in the meantime
[07:22] <atlfalcons866> go to #kubuntu
[07:22] <snoogie> someone have successfully install and use :D GNU GCJ and classpath ?
[07:22] <habbled> k
[07:22] <`muppet> Tomcat_ ok, thanks
[07:22] <peter_> i have a problem getting my webcam to work....when i type lsusb it shows up .....canorama doesnt' detect it.....it works in ekiga though .......and kopete deosnt detect it either......any thoughts?
[07:22] <leo_rockw> habbled, it doesn't matter those things are the same in kubuntu and ubuntu
[07:22] <leo_rockw> peter_, hello again
[07:23] <peter_> hi
[07:23] <Pici> fredikk: Breezy is past !EOL. I think there are still repos open on old-releases.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <peter_> never solve that probelm
[07:23] <leo_rockw> peter_, webcams are hard to make work
[07:23] <Pici> fredikk: You really should upgrade though.
[07:23] <benzs_s> camorama
[07:23] <peter_> yea
[07:23] <uahuha> hi
[07:23] <leo_rockw> peter_, from what i gather you're lucky it even works in ekiga
[07:24] <leo_rockw> hi uahuha
[07:24] <uahuha> can you suggest me webcam software that uses v4l2?
[07:24] <peter_> yea i think so too but then i doent even use ekiga ...i was just testing it ouit
[07:24] <leo_rockw> peter_, there, help uahuha w/ his webcam, haha
[07:24] <joe4444> i'm trying to rebuild my ipod library using Rhythmbox, but after deleting all my tracks in Rhythmbox the files remain on the iPod... it appears that only the track entries in the database were deleted, so how can i delete the actual files?  also, is it possible to delete playlists on the iPod with Rhythmbox?
[07:24] <peter_> lol
[07:24] <peter_> funny lol
[07:24] <uahuha> !v4l
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <uahuha> !v4l2
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v4l2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <uahuha> ekiga works but i want a program that let me to make video and photos ...
[07:25] <uahuha> it's possible that doesn't exist nothing of this?
[07:25] <leo_rockw> uahuha, peter_ has the same problem
[07:25] <peter_> i think i'll just get another one and hope it works...i'll check their list of compatible cams
[07:25] <uahuha> peter_: resolved?
[07:25] <leo_rockw> uahuha, nope he's been here since yday
[07:25] <peter_> nope
[07:26] <alcoholic> My resolv.conf gets override again and again by network manager and i have to manually edit it and give the nameserver. i dont know why its getting override can any one help me with it
[07:26] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, i think i can, actually
[07:26] <peter_> i had given up on the cam but just tested it for fun on ekiga and the thing came on ...so i was confused
[07:26] <habbled> atlfalcon866: it didnt work
[07:26] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, you want to set a dns?
[07:26] <alcoholic> leo_rockw:  i set a dns .. but it keeps on changing
[07:27] <alcoholic> to nameserver 10.0.0.1 which is my ip
[07:27] <angasule> hello, is there a graphical front end for at (or cron)? I'm using kde, but if there is one for gnome I'd like to see it (kcron is no good)
[07:27] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, ok, i did that yday, lemme look for the guide
[07:27] <alcoholic> leo_rockw:  it would be so nice of u
[07:27] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, i set up opendns yday and it told me how to avoid resolv.conf from changing
[07:28] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu
[07:28] <uahuha> peter_: http://sn-webcam.sourceforge.net/ i try to install this
[07:28] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, the part that says "to avoid having your settings..."
[07:28] <HOke> hello ppl, i need php editor with code completion
[07:28] <HOke> was using dreamwaver in windows but im searching for a free editor with the same qulitity i tried thr eclipse but its not compliting the code
[07:28] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, and change the ip to w/e you want
[07:29] <leo_rockw> HOke, i heard nvu is good
[07:29] <leo_rockw> HOke, never tried it myself, tho
[07:29] <rav> Hey, ok, i have a ATI rage PRO VGA, how do i switch from my integrated VGA to the ATI one?
[07:30] <alcoholic> checking
[07:30] <leo_rockw> rav, i believe you can do that from the bios
[07:30] <rav> no, when i do that ubunbtu wont boot up
[07:30] <rav> ubuntu*
[07:31] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, when you do the ifdown internet connection will stop
[07:31] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, just letting you know that's normal
[07:31] <Grundoko> hey. i was wondering if someone culd tell me how to add fonts to use with aMSN
[07:31] <rav> any other way?
[07:31] <HOke> leo_rockw, any other recommendation rather than nvu
[07:31] <peter_> sn webcam project ?
[07:32] <leo_rockw> HOke, i believe there's another one that's good, but i don't remember the name. google for any table of alternate linux apps.
[07:32] <leo_rockw> rav, i don't have an built in card, idk how to help you
[07:32] <Grundoko> ,
[07:33] <leo_rockw> Grundoko, actually, i saw a howto somewhere, hold on
[07:33] <Grundoko> k
[07:34] <templar^> is this a place you are allowed to ask questions or no?
[07:34] <leo_rockw> Grundoko, how good are you w/ spanish? http://www.openside.com.ar/how-to13.php
[07:34] <Tomcat_> !ask | templar^
[07:34] <ubotu> templar^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:34] <leo_rockw> templar^, you just asked one
[07:34] <mckensey> hola necesito ayuda con mi disco duro
[07:34] <Grundoko> i dont know a single word in spanish
[07:34] <Grundoko> ill use google language tools
[07:34] <Grundoko> thanks
[07:34] <mckensey> no me deja grabar archivos en el
[07:34] <leo_rockw> mckensey, join ubuntu-es or ubuntu-ar
[07:34] <ompaul> !es
[07:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:34] <leo_rockw> mckensey, solo ingles aca
[07:35] <chimaera> hi, is the a tool to manage partition/mount-points (like the appropriate guidance module for kde)?
[07:35] <alcoholic> thx leo_rockw
[07:35] <leo_rockw> alcoholic, my pleassure
[07:35] <templar^> I'm trying to get XGL running properly on 7.10 beta (gnome) but when I install xserver-xgl and restart X it just sits on a blank orange screen after login until it eventually restarts X
[07:36] <leo_rockw> Grundoko, if you need help w/ smth i can translate
[07:36] <agroker> why gnuchess is incompatible with Gnome under GG?
[07:36] <uahuha> agroker: try xboard ;)
[07:36] <agroker> uahuha, you are kidding, right?
[07:37] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> .omega.bg
[07:37] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> ops
[07:37] <uahuha> agroker: no
[07:37] <leo_rockw> agroker, i usually tend to believe that people doing this: ;) are kidding
[07:37] <agroker> uahuha, I have xboard installed, what's next?
[07:38] <uahuha> well use it on freechess.org ;)
[07:38] <agroker> uahuha, ok, got it :-)
[07:38] <leo_rockw> who plays chess anyway when there's tremulous
[07:39] <habbled> anyone here know how to use fdisk to format a drive and put fat32 on it?
[07:39] <magnetron> deep blue does, leo_rockw
[07:39] <agroker> !tell agroker about tremulous
[07:39] <Leovenous> Anyone up to my installation problem? (Ubuntu Server)
[07:39] <magnetron> !msgthebot > agroker
[07:39] <agroker> leo_rockw, what is tremulous?
[07:39] <PKdoR> i need help deleting a file
[07:39] <leo_rockw> magnetron, yeah, but deep blue is grumpy
[07:39] <leo_rockw> agroker, just the best fps + rts game ever created
[07:40] <Poundo> USB question dmesg shows "usb 1-1 new full speed device using uhci_hcd and address 3" How do i mount this
[07:40] <habbled> anyone know how to use fdisk to format a usb drive with fdisk and put fat32 on it?
[07:40] <leo_rockw> agroker, nothing to do w/ chess, lol
[07:40] <ompaul> habbled, sudo fdisk /dev/sda-orwhatever
[07:40] <leo_rockw> agroker, but i'm addicted to it
[07:40] <agroker> leo_rockw, very funny, magnetron is trheatening me with op measures ;-)
[07:40] <habbled> ompaul, then what, i got to that point, didnt know what option to do
[07:40] <PKdoR> I cant erase a file cause it say i dont have permission to delete it please help
[07:40] <leo_rockw> agroker, well, i didn't ask you to use !
[07:40] <pr0fx> so I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?
[07:40] <ompaul> habbled, use m for help and it talks you though it
[07:41] <agroker> leo_rockw, sure you did not
[07:41] <profanephobia> how can i unmount a binded dir?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  and what file is this you are trying to delete?
[07:41] <leo_rockw> agroker, but seriously, tremulous is great
[07:41] <Poundo> pkdoR: type sudo the rm but be carefull
[07:41] <habbled> ompaul, k ty
[07:41] <agroker> leo_rockw, FPS? ah, ok
[07:41] <leo_rockw> agroker, i have like 3 different chess installed and i never play them
[07:41] <PKdoR> Dr_willis: its a folder i created but
[07:42] <leo_rockw> agroker, no, it's fps + rts
[07:42] <leo_rockw> agroker, you get to build a base so strategy is involved
[07:42] <agroker> leo_rockw, and use to have xboard+gnuchess ony installed and played them
[07:42] <PKdoR> dr_ i can move it and paste it but it wont get erased
[07:43] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  clarify.. you can create files in the dir. but cant delete the file you just made?
[07:43] <Absolute0> how do i insmod modules at boot time automatically?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !modules
[07:43] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[07:43] <leo_rockw> agroker, there's 3d chess and dreamchess
[07:43] <stdin> Absolute0: add the module name to /etc/modules
[07:44] <Dr_willis> I can never get the 3d part of 3d chess to work
[07:44] <Absolute0> stdin: can i include a path with that?
[07:44] <habbled> ompaul, hrrm cant find fat32 on the l option
[07:44] <Absolute0> or i need to move the modules to the standard dir?
[07:44] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis, i think that was a bug in ubuntu
[07:44] <agroker> leo_rockw, I'm going to try them, but remember n ot liking their GUIs
[07:44] <pr0fx> so I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?
[07:44] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis, it worked for me in kubuntu i believe
[07:44] <stdin> Absolute0: no, it only looks in the standard place (you need to run "sudo depmod -a" after putting a new module there)
[07:45] <mckensey> I need help with my hard disk
[07:45] <Absolute0> stdin: whats the standard dir for modules?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw,  tried ubuntu/kubuntu/added stuff (in gutsy now) it says it needs this package for 3d.. i install it and anything i can find related to it.. No deal. :)
[07:45] <PKdoR> Dr_willis: its a folder that i created to save compiz themes to from the net and i am able to move the folder and add to it and even move it to the recyclw but the recylce CCANT empty it out cause I have no permission
[07:45] <pr0fx> mckensey: setting up for a new install ?
[07:45] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis, maybe i only tried dreamchess... i don't remember
[07:45] <stdin> Absolute0: /lib/modues/KERNEL_VERSION
[07:45] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  sounds like your permissions got set weird. use sudo and remove it as the root user i guess.
[07:45] <Poundo> any takers on what I mount if it's listed as "uhci_hcd and address 3" in dmesg
[07:45] <templar^> any XGL experts around?
[07:45] <Poundo> usb that is
[07:46] <PKdoR> Dr_willis: now I moved the folder to my home to see if i can remove it with a command from the term
[07:46] <Absolute0> stdin: the installation of rtl-wifi tells me to do insmod on a bunch of modules but the make install wont work
[07:46] <Absolute0> stdin: so i want to automate the insmoding
[07:46] <nopitos> I've upgraded to beta ubuntu and my firefox stopped working. I've read a bug report regarding this, but none of the solutions worked. Any idea?
[07:46] <mckensey> the hard disk dont let me save file
[07:46] <pr0fx> !gutsy
[07:46] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <Absolute0> stdin: how would i go about doing that?
[07:46] <stdin> Absolute0: yeah "sudo make install" will install them
[07:46] <usr13> Anyone have any luck getting a Treo650 to HotSync?
[07:47] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  if the permissions are set where the user dosent own/cant change stuff.. then they need to be set.  or use sudo to just delet the thing.
[07:47] <PKdoR> what the command to show the conntent s of a folder in the terminal?
[07:47] <Dr_willis> !bash
[07:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:47] <Absolute0> stdin: i did that but at rebooting i gotta do the insmodding all over again to get my wireless working
[07:47] <leo_rockw> agroker, brutal chess is the one i have
[07:47] <Dr_willis> time to learn some shell 101 :)
[07:47] <jport> PkdoR: ls -la
[07:47] <usr13> Kpilot complains that "device /dev/pilot does not exist"
[07:47] <mckensey> 	I want to put it like slave
[07:47] <drgath> Help with Proftpd.  When a user uploads a file, I would like the file's group to be set to "www-data" so it is readable by the web-server.  Any way to do that?
[07:47] <agroker> leo_rockw, installing.
[07:47] <maestrojed> I am running apache2 on my unbuntu fiesty box.  I don't believe apache is reading my .htaccess files.  I am not sure how to fix this.  I have asked in #apache but had no success, I was hoping someone in here might know the answer.
[07:47] <Absolute0> i am gonna try moving the files to that standard module dir
[07:48] <leo_rockw> agroker, brutal chess looks pretty (that's all i can say about it lol)
[07:48] <usr13> But /var/log/messages says:  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[07:48] <stdin> Absolute0: "sudo make install" will install them to the right place, but you still need to put the module name(s) in /etc/modules to autoload them
[07:48] <leo_rockw> agroker, i also have pouetchess
[07:48] <pr0fx> so I am setting up my Ubuntu system (ATI) to be run on my new LCD TV, if I want to hit the optimal res for the TV 1366X768, do I just need to enable the fglrx driver in my xorg, or should I be doing more, (setting up the res in my xorg as well, etc...) ?
[07:48] <usr13> Could there be some application I might be missing.
[07:49] <MrPink> can anyone recommend a good theme installer for Ubuntu GTK 2.2 ?
[07:49] <macd> pr0fx, it wouldnt hurt to hand code the res you want into xorg.conf
[07:49] <agroker> leo_rockw, playing at freechess.org now ,thanks :-)
[07:49] <leo_rockw> agroker, np
[07:49] <pr0fx> macd: yeah, but is there anything else I need to consider?
[07:49] <PKdoR> how can i cd to my home folder from the term?
[07:49] <drgath> @maestrojed: look into how debian uses apache sites.  google "a2ensite".  /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is the default profile, and that has script-override off
[07:49] <pr0fx> macd possibly the h/v rates?
[07:49] <jport> PKdor: cd /home/$user
[07:50] <pr0fx> PKdoR: cd ~
[07:50] <macd> pr0fx, you may also need to add a MODELINE containing the LCD's res, overscan, scanrates
[07:50] <Absolute0> stdin: /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION has a bunch of directories does it matter where i move mine too?
[07:50] <ompaul> habbled, so you got choices - d delete - n create  and l tells you types and look at b --
[07:50] <maestrojed> drgath: ty
[07:50] <PKdoR> ok ty
[07:50] <gilos> I'm setting up ubuntu server for the first time, is there any recommendations on vnc / secure vnc etc... so that I have remote gui?  don't want to use X
[07:50] <pr0fx> macd: yeah, thats what I was thinking too
[07:50] <Aligorn> hello
[07:50] <pr0fx> time to research :)
[07:50] <peter_> leo ...dapper and kubuntu seem to support my webcam check this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasA4Tech
[07:51] <stdin> Absolute0: it has to be the right kernel version (the one you're running), use "uname -r" to see
[07:51] <leo_rockw> peter_, kubuntu is just ubuntu w/ a different desktop
[07:51] <drgath> @maestrojed: no problem, that issue drove me crazy for literally weeks.  I had no idea the configuration was in sites-available.
[07:51] <Absolute0> stdin: i did that
[07:51] <Absolute0> stdin that dir has a bunch of dirs
[07:51] <leo_rockw> peter_, idk why the specified kubuntu feisty
[07:51] <linux4me> i'm looking for ubuntu specific info on setting up LVS, can anyone point me to some good docs?
[07:51] <leo_rockw> why they*
[07:51] <g0rd0n> in the "sound preferences" i need to manually set my sound device, because just setting ALSA will bring the output to my USB phone which i dont want. However, not all applications are respecting the settings in sound preferences. So how do I tell ALSA which device to use by default??
[07:52] <Absolute0> stdin: how do i run a script at boot time?
[07:52] <stdin> Absolute0: have you ran "sudo make install" yet?
[07:52] <kazim59> Does anybody have an idea of what happens inside when someone (me) accidentally spills water over the keyboard? Does it get to working ever?
[07:52] <Absolute0> stdin: like 10 times
[07:52] <leo_rockw> well, it's been a pleasure hanging here, but i g2g
[07:52] <peter_> well i'm lost then.Time to buy a new cam :)
[07:52] <macd> pr0fx, once you have fglrx installed you can use the gtf util to generate yourself a modeline
[07:52] <Absolute0> stdin: i think the ununtu modules overload it
[07:52] <leo_rockw> so goodbye everyone
[07:52] <keito> after having installed moblock and having it screw itself up in conjunction with firestarter - the whole thing was just a black screen on load - I removed it and cleaned up the system.  it however left me with no top panel in gnome, until i clicked in the vicinity and it re-appeared.  this didn't happen again for several restarts, but it *has* happened.  I like a tidy system, so what in f**** name is going on? HELP!!!!
[07:53] <Leovenous> LOL... kazim... dry it out thoroughly... completely, and if it works it works. If it doesn't, it doesnt.
[07:53] <stdin> Absolute0: then it's probably already been installed there, just put the module names in /etc/modules and try it
[07:53] <Absolute0> oh good idea
[07:53] <Absolute0> :)
[07:53] <gilos> does the ubuntu server have a GUI on it?  I guess I should check that first.
[07:53] <Absolute0> stdin: thats prolly what i forgot to do
[07:53] <Absolute0> :)
[07:53] <scguy318_2> gilos: no, but you can install one
[07:53] <squee> keito: when I removed moblock it didn't uninstall fully.  I didn't use it in combination with firestarter, but search your system for what moblock left behind and try removing it
[07:53] <Dr_willis> server = console as the gui. :)
[07:53] <LinuxJuggalo> gilos no
[07:54] <scguy318_2> Dr_willis: but black and white is HARDLY graphical now :)
[07:54] <keito> squee: how? - locate moblock?
[07:54] <gilos> I'm replace my old redhat server software with ubuntu server... I would prefer a GUI... is it as easy as an apt get install gui.... ?
[07:54] <gilos> replacing
[07:55] <scguy318_2> gilos: simply sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the entire desktop shebang, theres a smaller metapackage for just GNOME or w/e desktop environment
[07:55] <g0rd0n> gilos: yes
[07:55] <PKdoR> Dr_willis: the term say cant remove "compiz Themes" its a directory
[07:55] <jport> gilos: you might want to check out webmin
[07:55] <squee> keito, updatedb first but yea that's what I did
[07:55] <Leovenous> Okay, I got "Unable to install selected kernel: linux-server"
[07:55] <keito> squee: looks like I answered my own Question. is there a way to delete all entries automatically?
[07:56] <squee> keito, probably, I just removed them manually
[07:56] <Leovenous> On a fresh install.
[07:56] <uahuha> peter_: use videoview :)
[07:56] <heman> Hello all
[07:56] <gilos> thank you scguy318_2 and I will google webmin jport
[07:56] <keito> squee: well thanks for the info bro, I'll see if that does anything to help my situation, I hate niggly little bugs
[07:57] <uahuha>  make install
[07:57] <uahuha> make: `install' is up to date.
[07:57] <uahuha> what does it mean
[07:57] <uahuha> ?
[07:57] <keito> I just can't see how moblock could affect my window manager
[07:58] <heman> please may someone answer this if they can :P: Where can I get some free linux games to download?
[07:58] <gilos> so now that I know how to get the desktop on the server, what's a good way non-X to send it remotely?  I would prefer to do it over SSH
[07:58] <DaBeowulf> Hi how do I run in tty3 without X sneaking up on me all the time plz?
[07:58] <scguy318_2> heman: there are some in the repos, like Tremulous, the Ubuntu Forums Gaming & Leisure section has some suggestions
[07:58] <PKdoR> Poundo: the terminal says "cant remove "folder" its a directory"
[07:58] <DaBeowulf> i.e. when I kill it.
[07:59] <imscifi> what package contains the intel 950 graphics adapter drivers?
[07:59] <DaBeowulf> If you need it I can pastebin my xorg.conf
[07:59] <squee> keito, you said that was what was happening at the same time, so it couldn't hurt.
[07:59] <heman> scguy: thankyou ok Ill try that sorry im new to linux and finding it all very confusing
[07:59] <backblue> hi, i need 'http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/heartbeat-gui', when i do apt-cache search heartbeat-gui, i dont have it, why??
[07:59] <scguy318_2> heman: no problem, ask any questions you want
[07:59] <Poundo> need help mounting the usb drive
[07:59] <dfgas> how do i install fonts?
[07:59] <Absolute0> anyone knows when networkmanager will support 801.1x protocol or if its already available in a beta or alph release?
[07:59] <keito> squee: yep it did it straight after restart, after installation
[07:59] <scguy318_2> backblue: because heartbeat-gui is in Gutsy, and you probably don't have Gutsy installed, else you would be in #ubuntu+1 :)
[07:59] <Absolute0> *802.1x
[08:00] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: mount /dedia/drivename
[08:00] <chamunks> Does anyone know if its at all possible to torrify your bit torrent tracker reports only?
[08:00] <heman> scguy: thankyou
[08:00] <LinuxJuggalo> sorry
[08:00] <keito> squee: gnome never loaded, it was a black screen with what appeared to be a text box in the top-left (white) though it wouldn't let me type into it (cursor changed though)
[08:00] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: mount /media/drivename
[08:00] <scguy318_2> chamunks: yes, though its client-specific
[08:00] <chamunks> Im using deluge torrent and i want to use Tor
[08:00] <dfgas> !font
[08:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:00] <backblue> scguy318_2: why should i be in #ubuntu+1? i have 7.04, this package does not exists?
[08:00] <scguy318_2> chamunks: you must be asking regarding the recent isoHunt decision
[08:00] <keito> squee: booted into kde and it worked and fixed from there
[08:00] <LinuxJuggalo> !mount
[08:00] <DaBeowulf> !X
[08:00] <chamunks> scguy318, i thought it would be because im looking at actually demonoid
[08:00] <squee> keito:  I have no idea why gnome would do that.
[08:00] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:    can someone help me with this?
[08:00] <LinuxJuggalo> !umount
[08:00] <chamunks> scguy318, but whats happening with isohunt?
[08:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:00] <heman> scguy: is it worth me staying with linux if im used to windows because I only started using linux because its nice and stylish and I love compiz I didn't really look into more than that...
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <keito> squee: strange eh?!
[08:01] <scguy318_2> backblue: nope, because you are running Feisty, that package is not in the Feisty repos
[08:01] <squee> keito:  yea
[08:01] <scguy318_2> heman: yes, its all a learning process, when you first started with computers, you didn't quite get Windows, did you?
[08:01] <DaBeowulf> How do I stop X from auto-restarting though?
[08:01] <chamunks> scguy318, Oh actually im a canadien citizen :P so i have the opposite issue :P
[08:01] <scguy318_2> DaBeowulf: i think sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[08:01] <sky1> I need to install the Java Runtime environment in Ubuntu, I installed JRE but it doesnt seem to work
[08:01] <SlimeyPete> !java
[08:01] <scguy318_2> chamunks: ah :) well, what client are you
[08:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:02] <chamunks> scguy318, im using deluge torrent
[08:02] <scguy318_2> sky1: sun-java6-jre is what you need to install
[08:02] <heman> scguy: nope I guess
[08:02] <DaBeowulf> Thanks scguy318_2 I'll try that.
[08:02] <backblue> scguy318_2: Gutsy, it's older than 7.04 or newer?
[08:02] <JeSTeR7> newer
[08:02] <scguy318_2> !gutsy | backblue
[08:02] <heman> scguy: so do you recommend I stay with linux then? Also what about all my games they wont install anymore... :(
[08:02] <ubotu> backblue: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16
[08:02] <Zergiu> hello
[08:02] <scguy318_2> heman: yes, if you are willing to take the time to learn it, and Windows games can run under Wine
[08:02] <scguy318_2> !wine | heman
[08:02] <ubotu> heman: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:02] <backblue> scguy318_2: thanks.
[08:03] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: problem is I don't know what the usb is called all I have is the listing in dmesg "uhci_hcd and address 3" fdisk dosn't tell me anything
[08:03] <sky1> scguy318, I already have it installed, but my mozilla browser cant detect it
[08:03] <darkchr0n0s> heman, games are only reason gamers won't shift to linux
[08:03] <Zergiu> what music player is cool and good for ubuntu?
[08:03] <scguy318_2> sky1: you need sun-java6-plugin then
[08:03] <darkchr0n0s> Zergiu : amarok
[08:03] <sky1> scguy318, Ok lemme check
[08:03] <Zergiu> thanks , gona check it out
[08:03] <heman> scguy: thanks, will wine run all windows programs games and everything?
[08:03] <scguy318_2> chamunks: look around in your BT app's options for proxy settings
[08:04] <darkchr0n0s> heman , it can.. but not all
[08:04] <chamunks> scguy318, ill poke around
[08:04] <scguy318_2> heman: Wine isn't perfect, but it probably can run quite a few games, see the Wine AppDb for info: http://appdb.winehq.org
[08:04] <notebook> hello all--i have to identical icons of a program i installed in the gnome panel (running feisty). how do i remove one without removing the other?
[08:04] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16
[08:04] <notebook> two identical icons, i meant
[08:04] <heman> scguy: have you heard of a game called sporE?
[08:04] <petru> hello guys! got one tiny problem; after i installed xgl drivers and enebled ubuntu desktop effects, i cant anymore turnoff or restart the computer from the usual icon. what to do for get back the missing shortcuts?
[08:04] <scguy318_2> heman: yes
[08:05] <heman> scguy: ok well im just not wanting to have to swap back to windows to install that...
[08:05] <scguy318_2> heman: Spore hasn't been released yet
[08:05] <Zergiu> at amarok distribution there is no ubuntu , just kubuntu and debian (and other) , I get debian? or source one?
[08:05] <DaBeowulf> !gdm
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: try mount /media/"USB DISK" or try using the name of the drive (brand name)
[08:06] <heman> scguy: I know but im wondering whether I will have to wait for 6 months for it to be compatible?
[08:06] <Junx> Hey! I need some help with partitions when im installing, anyone wanna help me ? PM is preferred :P
[08:06] <scguy318_2> Zergiu: Kubuntu is fine, remember that Ubuntu is the same as Kubuntu, just a different desktop environment
[08:06] <scguy318_2> heman: I really dunno, that may be a possibility :(
[08:06] <Zergiu> ok
[08:06] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me
[08:06] <Absolute0> any cool game providided with apt-get?
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: yes, theres stuff like Tremulous, Freeciv, etc.
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: and apt-get is just an APT frontend ;)
[08:07] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: the real meat is dpkg and the repos that it manages
[08:07] <notebook> anyone could help with removing a duplicate icon from gnome panel?  is there some edit command i can run?  thanks for help
[08:07] <heman> scguy: ok thanks well I have windows on here aswell so maybe I just install on windows if it doesn't work on linux
[08:07] <JeSTeR7> are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?
[08:07] <darkchr0n0s> how do i schedule a shutdown ? "sudo shutdown -h 100" din't work last time i used
[08:07] <mooper> since I upgraded my kernel the sound stopped working on my laptop!! suggestions?
[08:08] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i just got used to apt-get
[08:08] <scguy318_2> heman: kk, theres nothing wrong with dual-booting if you have to
[08:08] <Absolute0> theres a million of frontends by now
[08:08] <petru> hello guys! got one tiny problem; after i installed xgl drivers and enebled ubuntu desktop effects, i cant anymore turnoff or restart the computer from the usual icon. what to do for get back the missing shortcuts?
[08:08] <Absolute0> but apt-get seems to be the most friendly
[08:08] <Zergiu> well in the end I'm gona install amarok with the synaptic package manager
[08:08] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: some people here recommend aptitude, but all the same for me :P
[08:08] <Absolute0> why would one be better than the other?
[08:09] <imscifi> ok so I wasn't paying very good attention, did anyone answer if there is a package for intel 950 gma drivers?
[08:09] <PKdoR> how can i remove a directory through the terminal?
[08:09] <JeSTeR7> are there performance issues in using KDE programs on Gnome, or is it simply about aesthetics?
[08:09] <Bassxman1> im trying to get my sound to work but i need help with this part     "Now unzip and install the alsa-driver package:"    can someone help me with this?  Here is the website    http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-sb16   please help me
[08:09] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: does tremulous require opengl?
[08:09] <scguy318_2> i imagine usability
[08:09] <Poundo> I have a usb drive plugged in but fdisk -l only shows sda1 sda2 sda5 nothing about the usb as far as I can tell so I don't know howto mount it.
[08:10] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: rm -rf /directory/name
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: of course, its a 3D game, there are tons of other games tbh
[08:10] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i got an ati card and its not supported on linux :(
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: that do not require 3D
[08:10] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: well, i hear the latest ATI driver due sometime this month may rectify that
[08:10] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : you can get ATi prop drivers
[08:11] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: and they work good?
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318_2 the link is out.. you can download from ati.amd.com
[08:11] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: and the terminal should be default on my home folder no?
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 i have ATi mobility radeon.. working pretty decent for me
[08:11] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: should i download from the link instead of ubuntu repos?
[08:11] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR yes
[08:11] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: i meant the one that should have AIGLX support
[08:11] <darkchr0n0s> what i AIGLX again ?
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> what si*
[08:12] <darkchr0n0s> is*
[08:12] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: what driver are you using for you ati card?
[08:12] <dardan> hi
[08:12] <sky1> scguy318, its working thanks :)
[08:12] <Absolute0> xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[08:12] <dardan> anyone how can i convert mov file to mp3
[08:12] <dardan> ?
[08:13] <scguy318_2> sky1: np
[08:13] <scguy318_2> dardan: prob a bit of ffmpeg play or VLC transcode
[08:13] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : no... i got it from ati.amd.com, i think they call it fglrx or somthing
[08:13] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: AIGLX = Accelerated Indiret something
[08:13] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: do they have a deb pkg?
[08:13] <dardan> scguy318 thx probing :)
[08:13] <fredikk> hello i am trying to find the repos for ubuntu 5 breezy, that seem not to exist in the mirror: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu anyone could help?
[08:13] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo:  so if i want to delete a directory named f1 in my home folder i would type "rm -rf /f1" correct?
[08:13] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: its what Beryl/Compiz uses for their magic
[08:13] <siloko> dardan: isn't one an AV format and the other just an Audio format?
[08:13] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : they have bin files
[08:14] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: no slash, but yeah
[08:14] <darkchr0n0s> scguy318_2 : i have compiz working on my laptop with ATi
[08:14] <Absolute0> darkchr0n0s: what about xorg-driver-fglrx in the repositories?
[08:14] <dardan> siloko: file.mov it is audio
[08:14] <fredikk> i mean there are several other versions there but no beeze
[08:14] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: not exactly, just type rm -rf f1
[08:14] <scguy318_2> darkchr0n0s: yeah, cuz XGL
[08:14] <fredikk> r
[08:14] <fredikk> y
[08:14] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : i haven't used that.. i started off with prop drivers
[08:14] <Absolute0> isnt fglrx the proprietary one?
[08:15] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: they are
[08:15] <darkchr0n0s> i think it is
[08:15] <Absolute0> xorg-video-ati is the open sourc one
[08:15] <Absolute0> so does it matter if i get flgrx or the ones on the ati site?
[08:15] <darkchr0n0s> fglrx = the one on the ati site
[08:16] <Absolute0> fglrx the one in apt-cache search fglrx :)
[08:16] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: the driver packages in the repos are obviously not the latest
[08:16] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: but a better bet of working a-ok
[08:16] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: i dont need latest i need working
[08:16] <profanephobia> how can i unmount a binded dir?
[08:16] <Absolute0> with full 3d acceleration
[08:16] <Absolute0> ok i guess theres only one way to find out
[08:16] <ZeroA4> Absolute0, anyone should work
[08:16] <Absolute0> oh
[08:16] <Absolute0> :)
[08:16] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : just goto ati.amd.com and get the drivers..
[08:17] <darkchr0n0s> what is the hold ?
[08:17] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: I tryed it but it sayas canot delete F1 permission denied
[08:17] <Absolute0> dark which card do you have?
[08:17] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: who owns the directory? if its owned by root you'll have to prefix sudo
[08:17] <kazim59> What is the command to install all packages in all repositories? (sudo apt-get install everything!)
[08:17] <siloko> profanephobia: What do you mean by bound directory?
[08:17] <darkchr0n0s> Absolute0 : ATi Mobility Radeon x2300
[08:18] <darkchr0n0s> kazim59 : i don't think you want to install everything !
[08:18] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR: try sudo rm -rf /home/username/directoryname
[08:18] <Absolute0> i got x200 m which is not on the ati site
[08:18] <kazim59> darkchr0n0s: somebody wants to do so.. he has asked me the question...
[08:18] <ZeroA4> Absolute0, i have a note with a Radeon x700... i just used Restrited Drivers Manager and it installed it for me
[08:18] <PKdoR> LinuxJuggalo: TY sir that worked I had to sudo
[08:18] <profanephobia> siloko, i did a "mount -o bind dir_from/blah dir_to/blah" and now i need to undo it
[08:18] <josh43> Can anyone help me with a multi-threaded ftp upload script?
[08:18] <kazim59> darkchr0n0s: I know this is awkward... but is this possible with one command
[08:18] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR no problem :)
[08:19] <darkchr0n0s> kazim59 : never tried.. i don't have much hard drive on my laptop
[08:19] <Absolute0> gotchya
[08:19] <Pici> josh43: You'll probably get a better response in #bash
[08:19] <josh43> Pici: Thanks; was just looking through the channel names for something like that :)
[08:20] <PKdoR> is there any p2p apps for linux?
[08:20] <Pici> !p2p | PKdoR
[08:20] <ubotu> PKdoR: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:20] <scguy318_2> !p2p | PKdoR
[08:21] <LinuxJuggalo> PKdoR yes there is, there are a few you can install using apt-get install like nicotine, amarok and bittorrent
[08:21] <Grundoko> how can i add system fonts
[08:21] <scguy318_2> !fonts
[08:21] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:22] <profanephobia> siloko, any ideas?
[08:22] <Grundoko> thanks ill check it out
[08:22] <PKdoR> is vuze (azureus 3.x) running on linux?
[08:22] <ljsmithx> Hello guys, Im not shore wether to stay with os x or go with ubuntu.
[08:22] <ljsmithx> What should i do?
[08:22] <amadeux> Using hdparm -Tt, I can see (and feel) that my hard disks are suddenly much slower than they used to be. I fiddled around with hdparm the other day, but I just tried rebooting to see if it helped. It didn't. How can I "reset" the hdparm settings back to normal? Would booting in Windows and then back into linux help?
[08:22] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: not sure, think not
[08:22] <siloko> profanephobia: sudo umount <target dir>
[08:23] <scguy318_2> PKdoR: you could try directly obtaining packages/sources/w/e from their site
[08:23] <ZeroA4> ljsmithx, you should evaluate it for youself
[08:23] <profanephobia> siloko, k thanks
[08:23] <PKdoR> can I run a p2p through wine?
[08:23] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: I have tried mount /dev/sda1 /"usb 1-1"  mount /dev/sda1 /usb 1-1 even mount /dev/sda1 /uhci_hcd those are all the values i got from dmesg showing the drive was connected but no luck
[08:23] <ljsmithx> I know, but. For some reason I have an odd urge to go with linux,
[08:23] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: depends which one, but yeah
[08:23] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: why tho?
[08:23] <Absolute0> whats the difference between apptitude and apt-get?
[08:23] <ljsmithx> ...A weired fealing inside
[08:24] <ljsmithx> weird*
[08:24] <Grundoko> i think i did it
[08:24] <scguy318_2> ljsmithx: try the LiveCD, decide which one you want to go with, and ask any questions here
[08:24] <SpiderPig> how do i get java applet installed? i installed java
[08:24] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: aptitude has a CLI interface
[08:24] <ljsmithx> Sorry if im annoying.
[08:24] <PKdoR> cause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux
[08:24] <scguy318_2> SpiderPig: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[08:24] <Absolute0> scguy318_2: isnt apt-get cli as well?
[08:24] <SpiderPig> scguy dont i also need to install the fonts and such?
[08:24] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: it could be the partition format on the drive is not supported
[08:25] <Poundo> on the usb you mean
[08:25] <scguy318_2> Absolute0: yeah, but aptitude has more of an interface, so to speak, so if you typed aptitude, you would get a window that looks similar to dpkg-reconfigure
[08:25] <ljsmithx> What are the advantages of using Feisty over OS X
[08:25] <ljsmithx> ??
[08:25] <scguy318_2> SpiderPig: perhaps
[08:25] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes
[08:25] <scguy318_2> ljsmithx: its free, not proprietary, um
[08:25] <PKdoR> Webbmaster: cause I use vuse as my main and prettymuch only torrent client and It might not work on linux
[08:25] <Nalleman> What packages should I install to get a java virtual machine? medibuntu is added. thanks.
[08:26] <ljsmithx> ...
[08:26] <Webbmaster> PKdoR: try it in wine, it might or might not work
[08:26] <Webbmaster> check the appDB one winehq.org
[08:26] <ljsmithx> Ok... My cd drive is too slow to take on the live cd
[08:26] <ljsmithx> G3 iMac 2001
[08:26] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: try installing the NTFS configuration tool and enable the read/write option for external drives, then retry to connect the drive
[08:26] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: can I set the format when I create the mount like ntfs or something to force the filesystem to be correct this was a windows drive
[08:27] <ljsmithx> And the text install has never worked for me.
[08:27] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes you can
[08:27] <fredikk> anyone knows where i could find ubuntu breezy's archive?
[08:27] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: sorry a little quick on the draw. Is that something I can get with apt-get
[08:27] <fredikk> all mirrors have dapper, feistyand gutsy but not breezy
[08:28] <ompaul> fredikk, discontinued unsupported
[08:28] <siloko> Nalleman: type java -version at the commandline - I think GNU Java is installed by default
[08:28] <Pici> fredikk: one moment.
[08:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: yes
[08:28] <siloko> Nalleman: if you want a different version (SUN or IBM) then go to the appropriate site and follow the instaructions
[08:28] <notebook> would anyone advise about removing duplicate icons from the gnome panel?
[08:28] <fredikk> ompaul:at last! someone helps me on this. i'm serching for hours now!
[08:28] <Pici> !java | Nalleman
[08:28] <ubotu> Nalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:28] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[08:28] <Pici> ompaul: There is a repo still open though.
[08:29] <Pici> fredikk: I did mention at least once that it was at end of life.
[08:29] <ljsmithx> Whats away of making OS X feel more like Linux?
[08:29] <ljsmithx> Or is that stupid?
[08:29] <fredikk> PIci:you mentioned it?what do you mean when?
[08:29] <Nalleman> siloko, I tried to install jalbum but it wouldnt work because of some java issue. Really, I dont know what it means or what java actually is... :)
so do you know the url of the still working one:
[08:30] <fredikk> ?
[08:30] <Pici> fredikk: er, looks like the url doesnt work. oops.
[08:30] <fredikk> which was it?
[08:31] <Nalleman> perhaps its the sun-java5-jre I need... *trying*
[08:31] <chamunks> scguy318, so would it be tracker proxy?
[08:31] <siloko> Nalleman: well that's what it says on the jalbum website ;)
[08:31] <peter_> can anyone tell me how to install this driver... gspcav1-20070508.ebuild...or any webcam driver for that matter?
[08:31] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: one more question I do ultimately  want to use this USB on the linux box so this wont disable that feature right
[08:31] <Pici> fredikk: It doesnt matter.  Breezy isnt supported anymore anyway.
[08:31] <Poundo> and I found something called ntfsprogs?
[08:31] <bam_> Hi I was wondering if anyone could answer a quick question. In java, if I throw a an exception in the middle of a function, will the rest of the function the executed?
[08:32] <Nalleman> siloko, oh... well. then it ouht to work :] 
[08:32] <ompaul> fredikk, grab yourself feisty or some such
[08:32] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: no it wont
[08:32] <ISeeYou> hello
[08:32] <fredikk> Pici:ok man thanks
[08:32] <siloko> Nalleman: unless you have specifically installed SUN java then you will only have GNU Java which is often buggy with software developed for SUN
[08:33] <siloko>  !java | Nalleman
[08:33] <ubotu> Nalleman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:33] <LinuxJuggalo> !ntfs | Poundo
[08:33] <ubotu> Poundo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:33] <notebook> hello all--i have two identical icons in my system tray of the gnome panel.  i think i installed a program twice.  how do i remove with duplicate with out removing the whole panel?  sorry for such a simple question and thanks for any help.
[08:33] <notebook> without removing the whole program, i mean
[08:34] <siloko> notebook: right click on the second icon and choose remove
[08:34] <notebook> siloko--thanks, but when i do that i remove both icons.
[08:34] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: is it ntfstools or ntfsprogs?
[08:34] <siloko> notebook: so when you remove them both how do you get them back again?
[08:35] <notebook> i believe i just added the program to the system tray, but i forget how to get back to that.
[08:35] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: just sudo apt-get install ntsf-config
[08:35] <notebook> sorry, i'm really asking basic things.  cheers for your help siloko
[08:35] <Flats> Ok Flats the rookie is back, And todays clueless question has to do with sound. Alsa or OSS? It seems my system supports both. Does it matter which I use?
[08:36] <siloko> notebook: are you talking about icons in the notification area or the panel in general?
[08:36] <LinuxJuggalo> Poundo: after it is install it should appear in applications>system tools>NTFS Configuration Tool
[08:36] <siloko> notebook: because some software is a bit buggy with putting icons inthe notification area (Network Manager being a prime example)
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !external drives | Poundo
[08:37] <notebook> i guess that's what it is, the notification area.  it's upper right hand corner.
[08:37] <notebook> shows the programs currently running.
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !externaldrives | Poundo
[08:37] <siloko> notebook: whats the application?
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about external drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about externaldrives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <notebook> it's a pretty obscure program for running multiple language keyboards
[08:37] <LinuxJuggalo> !usb drives | Poundo
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <ZmaX> Hi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)
[08:38] <LinuxJuggalo> ubotu you suck lol
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <siloko> notebook: it's probably a bug . . although I don't know for sure - I had a problem with this in Network Manager - found a work around on ubuntuforums - can't remeber what it was - sorry
[08:38] <notebook> works with SCIM but i set it up the first week i had ubuntu and am really not sure how i did it.  but it works great.  thanks again for helping, siloko
[08:39] <FreshPrince> moin
[08:39] <notebook> is there anything you can pull up to see which programs are set up in the notifications area?
[08:39] <FreshPrince> whasts the default Filesystem for boot? ext2?
[08:39] <genii> Yup or ext3
[08:40] <FreshPrince> [genii]  ok thx.. i think i'm gonna use ext2 .) thx
[08:40] <Poundo> LinuxJuggalo: apt-get can't find it i tried apt-cache search and it's not pulled up
[08:40] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[08:41] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[08:42] <Flats> All the sound tests sound like a constant horn going off. Isthat normal?
[08:43] <whiskeytang1> So..
[08:43] <riotkittie> so...
[08:43] <whiskeytang1> Looks like they solved everyones problems.
[08:43] <siloko> problems? what problems . . .
[08:44] <riotkittie> or everyone with problems has gone to fall into the fetal position and weep
[08:44] <SpiderPig> Flats i still have some spare love left over for you
[08:44] <whiskeytang1> hey i left the room
[08:44] <Flats> woo hoo
[08:44] <whiskeytang1> man im loving the opera client...
[08:45] <SpiderPig> whiskeytang yeah it aint got tha memory leak problem
[08:45] <chris__> whats the desktop effects chat?
[08:45] <anthony> chris__: #ubuntu-effects
[08:45] <way2cool> hey
[08:45] <chris__> thanks
[08:45] <whiskeytang1> "#screenwentblankandcomputercaughtfire"
[08:47] <whiskeytang1> Whats best software for dvd burning with ubuntu?  like i want to burn my recently downloaded movie to a dvd..
[08:47] <anthony> !burners | whiskeytang1
[08:47] <ubotu> whiskeytang1: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:48] <whiskeytang1> thank you anthony
[08:50] <Desert_Storm> Hello
[08:50] <Desert_Storm> Could anyone help me?
[08:50] <dgjones> !anyone | Desert_Storm
[08:50] <ubotu> Desert_Storm: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:52] <recon> did I just miss a netsplit or something?
[08:53] <genpfault> Is there a program that can 'wrap' another and simulate adverse network conditions for testing purposes?
[08:53] <Hestv4> SATA is sweet.... new disk plugged in and formatted without power cycling!
[08:53] <Creeture> Hey all. I have a 6.10 server install. Want to upgrade it to 7.10 server. I have 7.04 alternate desktop and 7.10 alternate desktop CDs. Will the updater behave properly using those?
[08:53] <ayman> hi
[08:53] <riotkittie> Creeture: do you really want to upgrade your server to a beta?
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> Creeture: depends...
[08:53] <Creeture> riotkittie: Yeah, this one I do.
[08:53] <recon> LjL: if you're there, i reported the xchat TCL thing as a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/148222 , you can confirm it if you like.
[08:53] <ayman> any body here
[08:54] <X3N> hi there i just failed the installation for the ati driver but i looked into the x.org log file and found an error in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/  so how do i update or downgrade to the correct x.org?
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> Creeture: i'd make sure you back everying up,
[08:54] <recon> ayman: hi there.
[08:54] <ayman> iam wann get some help
[08:54] <Creeture> I don't wanna know if I should do it, I want to know if it's going to try to install the desktop stuff. That's all.
[08:54] <ayman> :$
[08:54] <dgjones> Creeture, you'd at least be better waiting until Gutsy is fully released and not just test software
[08:54] <recon> ayman: do you speak a language other than english more fluently than english?
[08:54] <ayman> :( maby iam  alone here
[08:54] <recon> ayman: /join #ubuntu
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> i've never gotten ati drivers to work, ever.. thats why i stick w/ nvidial.
[08:54] <X3N> it keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:54] <Desert_Storm> Wow
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> recon: lol, thats where he is.
[08:55] <Desert_Storm> My first day of Ubuntu
[08:55] <dgjones> ayman, you need to say what you're problem is before you'll know whether anyone is around to help
[08:55] <Desert_Storm> And, im doing great, for a newcomer =P
[08:55] <Bk> good day
[08:55] <way2cool> hey peeps
[08:55] <recon> IndyGunFreak: wait, what? crap. i thought i was in offtopic.
[08:55] <Bk> hi everybody
[08:55] <ZmaX> Hi all. I have to _uninstall_ Compiz Fusion and not Compiz. How can I do? :)
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> recon: lol
[08:55] <puma> hi
[08:55] <disasm> i have an ldap auth /w kerberos and nfs mounted home directories on workstations. Everything works fine... Unless it loses connectivity with LDAP server on boot, then it takes forever to boot, it eventually boots, but trying to login as root hangs because it's trying to find the root account on the ldap server, any ideas? I was thinking about on a test machine switching nsswitch.conf to files before ldap, but I think we have ldap first s
[08:55] <neopsyche> what is the best antivirus package for ubuntu?
[08:55] <smacfarl> Are there any 7.10 docs yet. Would like to read more about what I have just installed.
[08:55] <jurp5> hi
[08:55] <recon> IndyGunFreak: i forgot i reinstalled, meaning my default IRC channel isn't offtopic. crap.
[08:55] <way2cool> if i want to upgrade from 7.04 to gutsy, what should i do.. use "Manager updateR" or download the iso???
[08:55] <riotkittie> neopsyche: you dont really need an AV
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> recon: there's worse things.
[08:55] <ompaul> !offtopic | recon
[08:55] <ubotu> recon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:55] <Creeture> So, since I don't care about stability or the bigger picture, will it work?
[08:55] <Instabin|Work> smarcfarl: apt-get remove
[08:56] <neopsyche> Its a nice to have... makes people feel safe :-)
[08:56] <smacfarl> gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[08:56] <Instabin|Work> or uncheck the packages in synaptic
[08:56] <riotkittie> if you want to update to the gutsy beta, please, please, pleaaaaaaase, know what youre doing and be prepared for breakage
[08:56] <neopsyche> are there NO viruses for ubuntu?
[08:56] <recon> ompaul: i know that. you don't really have to rub it in my face, you know. :-(
[08:56] <IndyGunFreak> hey, does anyone know how i would change the mount point for my Ipod?.. when it mounds, it says, "Kens IPOD" on the desktop, I'd rather it just said, 'IPOD"
[08:56] <X3N> it keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:56] <Desert_Storm> neop
[08:56] <riotkittie> and back your stuff up :|
[08:56] <way2cool> so its not recommended to get gutsy????
[08:56] <smacfarl> isn't 7.10 leaving beta 10/19?
[08:56] <Desert_Storm> Every system has viruses
[08:56] <dgjones> !virus | neopsyche
[08:56] <ubotu> neopsyche: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:56] <way2cool> do i stick with my awesome feisty?
[08:56] <Creeture> Jebus man...I don't care if it breaks. I just finished installing 6.10 server on it. That CD isn't even cool yet.
[08:56] <smacfarl> How much is really going to change in 2 weeks?
[08:56] <recon> neopsyche: there probably are, buy you aren't really in danger as long as you follow standard security procedures.
[08:57] <puma> when comes final 7.10?
[08:57] <Pici> smacfarl: #ubuntu+1, you know this.
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> smacfarl: well, if you were seeing the updates every morning, i'd say enought o matter.
[08:57] <way2cool> talk to me
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> puma: 18th i think
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> *think*
[08:57] <Desert_Storm> Realy, it would be a big search, if you would want to find a virus, for linux/ubuntu :D
[08:57] <smacfarl> Pici i was just there and no one answered any questions
[08:57] <X3N> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:57] <edugonch> Hello, is there a log file that I can see for remote desktop connection?
[08:57] <recon> neopsyche: by that, i mean "don't give out your password", "keep a good password", etc.
[08:57] <disasm> Creeture: yes and no, they're the same package tree as the server, so that won't do any damage, but if it is trying to upgrade say apache, Apache isn't on the install disks iirc.
[08:57] <Pici> smacfarl: be patient.
[08:57] <Instabin|Work> Smacfarl: i have been running gutsy since tribe 3 and I get about 40 updates a day
[08:57] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak whats the proper way to upgrade distro version from 4.07 to 4.10 ?? Is it from manager updater in X server, or downloading its ISO file???
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> 4.07?..
[08:58] <way2cool> feisty i mean
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> OR 7.04, to 7.10
[08:58] <way2cool> yea
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> you can run dist-upgrade i do believe.
[08:58] <way2cool> 7.04 to 7.10
[08:58] <bottiger> is there something like CTRL+z which doesn't suspend the app but just put it in the background
[08:58] <someone> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[08:58] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak really???
[08:58] <Creeture> disasm: Thanks. I'll have full apt-internet connectivity, so that shouldn't be a problem. I was just curious whether the desktop install will force, e.g. ubuntu-desktop onto my ubuntu-minimal system.
[08:58] <someone> it says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it
[08:58] <Instabin|Work> update-manager -d
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> way2cool: pretty sure, bt i'm not sure on the exact process... as i always do clean installs
[08:58] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak but i saw manager updater program running in my X it has somewhere to click and it says "Upgrade to 7.10 gutsy" Is that fine to click it???
[08:58] <Instabin|Work> sudo update-manager -d
[08:59] <Roge> anyone know the apt-get command to completly remove a package including config files and any other files it created etc
[08:59] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, whats that command for?
[08:59] <puma> trouble with p2p stream
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> way2cool: i guess..  i don't see why not.
[08:59] <Creeture> Roge: aptitude purge package
[08:59] <Instabin|Work> update to 7.10
[08:59] <Roge> thx
[08:59] <disasm> Creeture: not if you do a dist-upgrade
[08:59] <Creeture> Roge: But that only removes what is controlled by the package. Any files created outside of that will be left.
[08:59] <Instabin|Work> way2cool update to 7.10 from 7.04
[08:59] <way2cool> IndyGunFreak clean installs? define that... do u mean downloading the ISo and installing new linux from scratch??? thats not clean for me, hence you gonna re-configure VGA and whole drivers, then get all the Packages, etc. isnt clean for e
[08:59] <way2cool> me
[09:00] <disasm> Creeture: it will ask anyways before it does it, do a sanity check before saying yes
[09:00] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, did u do it before?
[09:00] <neopsyche> linux immune system better than windows
[09:00] <Roge> ok thx
[09:00] <Pici> Roge: apt-get remove --purge package
[09:00] <Instabin|Work> Yes
[09:00] <Creeture> disasm: What about using do-release-upgrade? Any idea? FYI, I'll report my findings on this in about 10 minutes.
[09:00] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: ^
[09:00] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, what if i did that same exact command in the 18th this month, will it get the Beta or the final??
[09:00] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:00] <someone> my ati driver keeps using mesa, and mesa is really useless and doesnt let me use the 3d acceleration, heres my error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39395/ can someone help?
[09:00] <mjb09> anyone ever use lvm with ubuntu?
[09:01] <someone> it says that x.org is wrong or something, i dont really understand it
[09:01] <riotkittie> if the final's been released, it will get the final
[09:01] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: depends on whats in the repo
[09:01] <disasm> Creeture: what's do-release-upgrade?
[09:01] <way2cool> Instabin|Work, so does that means each time i need to update something i need to edit the repo file and write something manualy in it? or is there a command to update my repo so it downloads final & latest versions of packages and everything???
[09:01] <Creeture> disasm: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-e471fe0c514bab31d4fac24a8a8fde382e8c7aaf
[09:02] <silviu> hey guys, i'm trying to give full read-write access to the filesystem to the current user, what's the command?
[09:02] <puma> my K-menu does't work after install 7.10 beta(AMD64 )
[09:02] <edugonch> A log file for the remote desktop, please....
[09:02] <Creeture> silviu: Whole filesystem? From / up you mean?
[09:02] <riotkittie> someone: is there an xorg upgrade available in the repos?
[09:02] <Pici> puma: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[09:02] <silviu> yes, to be able to write/delete files on the drive
[09:02] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: no  you have no need to edit the repo file to up date to gutsy
[09:03] <Creeture> silviu: Don't do that. Don't even consider it. Just add the users to sudoers using visudo
[09:03] <riotkittie> why would you want to write/delete outside of ~
[09:03] <someone> well i just reloaded synaptic, and nothing about an update
[09:03] <way2cool> Instabin|Work you didnt understand my question
[09:03] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: update-manager -d will take care of everything
[09:03] <mjb09> I have an lvm2 volume group on an external hdd that I need to mount one of the lv's under ubuntu [feisty] 
[09:03] <someone> ive looked for xorg too, appears im using the only xorg entry in synaptic anyway
[09:03] <mjb09> havin' problems
[09:03] <Creeture> silviu: And that's not one of those "we don't recommend this" things. You'll break the system completely if you go messing with permissions.
[09:03] <samad93> saut
[09:03] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: gutsy wiil not have diff repos for beta and final they are the same repos the packages are just updated
[09:03] <Rictoo> Will the ICH9R southbridge work with PATA support on Ubuntu?
[09:03] <Rictoo> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186124
[09:04] <Creeture> silviu: If you want something read/write by a user, create another filesystem, say /export/users/username and chown user:group that directory.
[09:04] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:04] <riotkittie> someone: i have no clue, sorry
[09:04] <bensode> Have CUPS working on 7.04 server and accepting print jobs from remote clients but how do I print locally from the server command line?
[09:04] <someone> i installed the ati driver with envy btw
[09:04] <someone> bloody thing this is driving me stupid
[09:04] <jhockin> Anyone know why when installing a fresh copy of the Fiesty DVD, xserver wont even start at the very beginning of the install?
[09:04] <silviu> no, i'm the only user to the system/pc, and i want to be able to play games (like ET)
[09:04] <neopsyche> how do i uninstall on ubuntu?
[09:04] <someone> every bloody timei manage to get 3d acc working it bloody reverts back to mesa!!! godamit!
[09:04] <neopsyche> from command line
[09:04] <neopsyche> for example
[09:04] <Creeture> siliviu: You can play games as a normal user.
[09:04] <neopsyche> i want to uninstall gftp
[09:05] <Creeture> silviu: You just do the install as root using sudo.
[09:05] <Pici> neopsyche: sudo apt-get remove gftp
[09:05] <mjb09> jhockin:  I've sometimes had to install with the alternate install cd, and then troubleshoot the video driver afterward
[09:05] <Instabin|Work> neopsyche: apt-get remove packagename
[09:05] <bensode> neopsyche : use sudo apt-get remote (package name to uninstall)
[09:05] <sulo> Hi, how do you change keymap in console in ubuntu 7.10?
[09:05] <bensode> neopsyche that's apt-get remove now remote
[09:05] <jhockin> does anyone have a handy link to the alternate?  I can only seem to find the normal dvd?
[09:05] <silviu> yes Creeture, i realised that's the way, but i hoped for a easy solution ;)
[09:05] <bensode> Can't type well today ... think my fingers are broken ...
[09:05] <Creeture> silviu: That *IS* the easy solution.
[09:05] <dgjones> !gutsy | sulo
[09:05] <ubotu> sulo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:05] <mjb09> jhockin:  worse come to worse, you can ue the vesa driver until you get it sorted out
[09:05] <Instabin|Work> way2cool: you still here
[09:06] <hendrixski> hello, I'm trying to put a new audio track onto an existing video I have, which program can I use on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <silviu> thanks for your answers
[09:06] <riotkittie> sulo:  temporary fix is ... sude loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/<tab tab tab to complete and select>
[09:06] <hendrixski> I can't seem to do it with Kino
[09:06] <mjb09> jhockin: http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[09:07] <hendrixski> is there something else that will edit videos and their audio tracks, or will Kino do it as well just in some hidden option?
[09:07] <TLF> hi all
[09:07] <RUUN|Stalker> hi
[09:07] <jhockin> thanks so much mjb09
[09:07] <TLF> does ubuntu have a net install CD?
[09:07] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[09:07] <dgjones> !install | TLF
[09:07] <ubotu> TLF: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:07] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[09:09] <Creeture> TLF: The one you're looking for in particular is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[09:09] <Textbook> anybody in here have a Toshiba Satellite they're running Ubuntu on?  got a problem with sound (headphones don't work)
[09:09] <Beefheart> join #ubuntu
[09:09] <Textbook> heh
[09:09] <TLF> thanks dgjones and Creeture :)
[09:10] <Beefheart> Anyone able to tell me how i find out where wine installed my Anarchy online please?
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Beef
[09:10] <Beefheart> or how to access it
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[09:10] <mjb09> Beef:  Not in ~/.wine  ??
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Yeah
[09:10] <Beefheart> im a neeb: )
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Should be something in wine directory
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> Beef
[09:10] <Beefheart> noob*
[09:10] <jhockin> mjb09: one more question, if i have the 7.04 dvd can i just use the text install option on that indstead of the alternate cd?
[09:10] <Desert_Storm> We were all noobs, at some point ;)
[09:10] <Beefheart> what is the wine dir ?
[09:11] <anthony> jhockin: yes
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> Where you installed it, lol
[09:11] <mjb09> jhockin:  I never did, but you can try
[09:11] <Beefheart> i just got my ubuntu running smooth on my laptop. i feel really good hehe
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> Well
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> This is my first day with Ubuntu aswell
[09:11] <Desert_Storm> But i've had suse, and Xubuntu before
[09:11] <idefix> why is the sources.list file read-only?
[09:11] <Beefheart> I need to know where to look for my ao installation
[09:11] <mjb09> jhockin:  alot of times my machines at work only have CDRom drive anyway, so I burn the CD
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> idefix: you need to be root to edit it. Use sudo/gksu/kdesu
[09:11] <Beefheart> because i ant to wine the exe file
[09:11] <SlimeyPete> !sudo
[09:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:12] <jhockin> great, thanks again
[09:12] <mjb09> <--- need to get old ssh host keys off an LVM and can't mouont the damn VG .  Anyone handy with LVM ?
[09:13] <Beefheart> I dont know where i installed wine. (default i guess) i know my AO was installed to C:\programfiles\Ao but how do i access the place called C: in linux?
[09:13] <mjb09> Beef: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[09:13] <Creeture> mbj09: I have a hammer. It always makes me feel better to beat the living hell out of something before delving into LVM.
[09:13] <Beefheart> ill try. 2 sec
[09:13] <idefix> thx SP
[09:13] <mjb09> Creeture:  Me too.  This HD is from an old FC4 box I was running xen on
[09:13] <Desert_Storm> Yay
[09:13] <Desert_Storm> I got Beryl working
[09:14] <remi____> hi all
[09:14] <mjb09> Instead of LVM, they should have called it PITA
[09:14] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?
[09:15] <Desert_Storm> Hey
[09:15] <Desert_Storm> Does anyone know, if i installed Beryl, where did it install to?
[09:15] <Desert_Storm> I want to add a theme, to it
[09:15] <Creeture> Desert_Storm: All over the dang place.
[09:15] <Desert_Storm> Okay... =D
[09:15] <Beefheart> ~/.wine/drive_c no such file or directory
[09:15] <Desert_Storm> GOnna be one hell of a search then XD
[09:15] <remi____> Desert_Storm, do you have virtual desktops working correctly with beryl ?
[09:16] <bottiger> is there something like CTRL+z which doesn't suspend the app but just put it in the background
[09:16] <mjb09> Beef:  What is in your ~/.wine folder?
[09:16] <Desert_Storm> Well
[09:16] <Desert_Storm> I can switch workspaces
[09:16] <Desert_Storm> O.o
[09:16] <Desert_Storm> IF thats what you mean
[09:16] <Beefheart> Have no clue
[09:16] <Beefheart> I cant ind it...
[09:16] <Beefheart> thats what im trying to say here
[09:16] <mjb09> Beef.  Open a terminal. and type the command
[09:16] <mjb09> cd .wine
[09:16] <mjb09> then type
[09:16] <mjb09> ls
[09:16] <Beefheart> I cant find my install of AO, which i know is installed somwhere. and i dont know where to look
[09:17] <Beefheart> no file or directory
[09:17] <mjb09> then run updatedb, and then locate ".wine"
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> Hey
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:17] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:18] <mjb09> or
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> sudo apt-get install beryl-mawget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:18] <Creeture> Beefheart: Should be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/AO
[09:18] <mjb09> find / -name ".wine" -type d
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> ups
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> sorry
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> I putted that to my terminal
[09:18] <Desert_Storm> Now, i dont know, where it installed
[09:19] <Beefheart> find / -name ".wine" -type d
[09:19] <Beefheart> mt
[09:19] <Desert_Storm> Any tips, on finding, where i installed Beryl?
[09:19] <Beefheart> ok now i found it
[09:20] <Beefheart> what next?
[09:20] <mjb09> then cd into that dir, and do another find
[09:20] <mjb09> like
[09:20] <mjb09> find . -iname "*part of filename*"
[09:20] <Beefheart> Thanks allot mate. you've been more than helpfull. thanks
[09:21] <mjb09> Beef: no prob
[09:21] <mjb09> good luck
[09:21] <sulo> Hi, how do I change keymap in gdm?
[09:21] <karoshi> stop saying beef! >_<
[09:21] <Beefheart> beefcake
[09:21] <mjb09> eccy eccy ptang zootbang... Ni!
[09:21] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[09:21] <mjb09> how is that
[09:21] <karoshi> sulo, system>pre>keyboard
[09:21] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[09:21] <dgm> This should be a dumb question, but I can't find anything with google.   Where do I find a list of errata and updates to 7.04 ?
[09:22] <sulo> karoshi thanks
[09:22] <ramon> hi, what package do I install to get info documentation for system programs like mkfifo?
[09:22] <sky1> what is newstr doing in this code ?  vector<std::string> k; string newstr=""; newstr.push_back((char)c); k.push_back(newstr);
[09:22] <Beefheart> are there a way to make a normal shortcut on my desktop to run an wine app ?
[09:22] <sulo> karoshi does that affect gdm as well?
[09:23] <karoshi> i think so sulo
[09:23] <karoshi> id imagine it affects everything
[09:23] <sulo> karoshi: no, it doesn't affect gdm :(
[09:23] <sulo> karoshi: I have dvorak in gdm :s
[09:23] <ramon> Beefheart: i think putting 'wine /path/to/exe' in the Command field should work
[09:23] <karoshi> but your doing it *in* gdm, how can it not/?
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi well.. I'm doing it in gnome
[09:24] <Beefheart> thanka ramon
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi gdm and the windowmanager are separate
[09:24] <mjb09> what, is nobody masochistic enough to know lvm?  I used to know it under Fedora, but I'm having odd problems under *buntu.
[09:24] <mjb09> ramon is right
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi in many ways
[09:24] <karoshi> then i dunno how
[09:24] <Woet> Hello, my chess 3D is bugged. It works (After a lot of messing around), but i have lines threw my screen
[09:24] <sulo> karoshi: ok. thanks anyways
[09:25] <karoshi> no prob
[09:25] <lloyd> any solutions to play text bassed rpg games in ubuntu
[09:25] <Woet> err
[09:25] <Woet> er
[09:25] <sulo> lloyd install and play?
[09:25] <Woet> firefox lloyd?
[09:25] <ddonky> how do i install Real codecs so totem can play .rm files?
[09:25] <lloyd> i ment something to join all sorts of text bassed rpg's
[09:26] <sulo> lloyd like a mud-client?
[09:26] <lloyd> yes thats it
[09:26] <lloyd> sorry that im so unclear its late :p
[09:26] <disasm> lloyd: telnet?
[09:26] <sulo> lloyd try mush, I've heard it's popular
[09:26] <disasm> that's what I always used at least ;-)
[09:27] <sulo> lloyd If you google something like "mud clients linux" I think there's someone maintaining a list
[09:27] <lloyd> ty :p
[09:27] <sulo> np
[09:27] <sulo> lloyd no, no irony, I mean there's some site with some guy/gal maintaining a list of rated clients
[09:28] <Beefheart> Anyone know how I get a list over programs to kill ?
[09:28] <jport> ps -ae
[09:28] <disasm> Beefheart: ps aux
[09:29] <lloyd> sulo i know :p this :p isn't irony
[09:29] <ramon> Beefheart: System->Administration->System Monitor for a GUI
[09:29] <Beefheart> ty
[09:29] <Desert_Storm> Whoa
[09:29] <lloyd> KildClient :p
[09:29] <Desert_Storm> Beryl looks cool :D
[09:29] <gregzx> beryl is for kids! :x
[09:30] <lloyd> ye :s
[09:30] <disasm> gregzx: my comment exactly ;-)
[09:30] <disasm> gregzx: fluxbox is where it's at for productivity or some other light weight wm
[09:31] <gregzx> yep ;] 
[09:32] <Textbook> does anybody have a Toshiba Satellite laptop? I'm having audio problems, headphones don't work
[09:32] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any idea?
[09:33] <ramon> does no one know how to install the info pages for the gnu tools?
[09:33] <gregzx> Textbook: i got a satellite pro u200 and my headphones work fine!
[09:33] <cosmodad> Textbook: did you enable the jack in thr mixer?
[09:33] <SeeBee> Right.
[09:33] <Textbook> how do you do that?
[09:33] <SeeBee> I need some help. =P
[09:33] <zxcv_> is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?
[09:33] <nilton> how can i add custom rules to be applied after an interface gets up?
[09:33] <SeeBee> Just got Ubuntu 7.04, burned the ISO on a CD, installed it, perfect. Everything's done fine.
[09:33] <SeeBee> And now when I start up my system, uhhh... how do I boot into Linux? It just gives me two options, boot into Windows XP or into a non-existant Windows Vista.
[09:34] <cosmodad> Textbook: check the speaker symbol in the corner of your desktop
[09:34] <nilton> routing rules, i mean
[09:34] <SeeBee> Non-existant in the sense that it was installed, and then I just formatted the drive it was installed on. So the boot manager when it opens up, shows the Vista like menu in which there's XP.
[09:34] <mjb09> <--- found the problem with my lvm.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/106696
[09:34] <gcj> nilton, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:34] <mjb09> Bascially a module did not autoload
[09:34] <nilton> gcj: is there a syntax, it's a shell script?
[09:34] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: i do a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4797, i had the same audio problem, look here for help about audio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> SeeBee: sounds like grb needs configuring. If you boot the alternate CD you can tell it to boot from the linux partition on the disk, so that you can fix gru
[09:34] <SlimeyPete> !grub
[09:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:34] <Textbook> thanks guys
[09:35] <gcj> nilton, man interfaces
[09:35] <SeeBee> I tried doing that, I edited the GRUB parameters and made it hd(1,1)
[09:35] <SeeBee> Second partition on the second disk.
[09:35] <brianski> what's a good pcmcia wifi card that will work solidly in ubuntu?
[09:35] <neopsyche> how do i get root?
[09:35] <Textbook> see, I already installed the latest alsa drivers , libs, and utils, but I don't see any option in the mixer to enable the jack
[09:35] <Cyber_Stalker> how would i run "index.jad.jnlp" on ubuntu... its a java file
[09:35] <neopsyche> su?
[09:35] <neopsyche> su doesnt work.
[09:35] <SeeBee> Still doesn't work, throw's up Vista and XP as options.
[09:35] <SeeBee> No Ubuntu in the boot list. =/
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> SeeBee: I'd go back and check your syntax then
[09:35] <SeeBee> hd(1,1)
[09:35] <neopsyche> what do i type to get root access.?
[09:35] <SeeBee> or hd (1,1)
[09:35] <SeeBee> Should there be a spacE?
[09:36] <preaction> !root | neopsyche
[09:36] <ubotu> neopsyche: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:36] <SlimeyPete> (hd1,1) I think
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> lol, no way im regreting, switching to Ubuntu :D
[09:36] <SlimeyPete> but I don't have a config file to hand
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> But, can anyone help me? I downloaded, a .bin, package
[09:36] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?
[09:36] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: i fixed my audio problem installing the latest alsa driver, lib and utils, not the latest stable version but the dev versions then adding in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base this line: options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> How can i install it?
[09:36] <SeeBee> That's the only way to do it then?
[09:36] <Desert_Storm> If anyone knows, can he PM me
[09:36] <Textbook> thanks LinuxJuggalo, and you can use headphones?
[09:36] <gcj> Desert_Storm, .bin is not a package format that i know of
[09:36] <amadeux> what's with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636
[09:37] <amadeux> Is it still around?
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Well
[09:37] <amadeux> isn't it pretty severe?
[09:37] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: .bin as a CD-ROM container format?
[09:37] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook when you do all steps in that link i gave you, reboot the laptop and everything should work fine
[09:37] <BLOBO> anyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&
[09:37] <Textbook> because audio works fine, except my headphone jack
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Well, think so
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Wait
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> I have a .RPM, file too
[09:37] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook, yes, i also use external speakers connected thru the headphone jack
[09:37] <gcj> Desert_Storm, you can try that one with alien, but be prepared it might break things
[09:37] <SeeBee> (hd 1,1) you think is the way to do it huh?
[09:37] <Desert_Storm> Alien?
[09:37] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: what does `file <bin file>' say?
[09:37] <sagar> i have a hard disk which used to be fat32, but then later i formatted it as ext3, and now i've repartitioned it and want to install ubuntu on it as reiserfs...but in the ubuntu installer, it shows up as still having a single fat32 partition!! how can i fix this and get the partition editor to see its partitions?
[09:38] <freak124> does anyone now how it's possible that on the live cd my partitions are visible in nautilus and they are not in the partition manager that's included in the installation? The previous times I installed ubuntu this all worked perfectly
[09:38] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: what software is this?
[09:38] <iyntx> pomogite
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Java
[09:38] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: why don't you use the official rep?
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> jdk-6u2-linux-i586.java
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Where can i get it?
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> Synaptic
[09:38] <Desert_Storm> ?
[09:38] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[09:38] <mzuverink> I am using gnome and would like to use Kontact because of its superior traits over evolution.  However contact is ugly in gnome.  is there something that helps smooth out that uglyness?
[09:38] <cosmodad> !java | Desert_Storm
[09:38] <ubotu> Desert_Storm: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:38] <gcj> Desert_Storm, chmod a+x on it, then run it
[09:39] <peter_> anyone know of a program that i use to forward my hotmail to my gmail....or thunderbird?
[09:39] <neopsyche> is it important to have a firewall on local machine?
[09:39] <cosmodad> Desert_Storm: use the Ubuntu packages unless you have a good reason to use the .bin package
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Ah
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Okay
[09:39] <Desert_Storm> Thank you
[09:39] <cosmodad> neopsyche: depends on your network environment
[09:40] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: thanks, will reboot in a little bit, try it out
[09:40] <cosmodad> neopsyche: if you're protected by another firewall anyway, I wouldn't consider it necessary
[09:40] <cosmodad> neopsyche: on the other hand, if this is a laptop and you frequently swtich networks, it might be a good idea
[09:40] <peter_> does anyone use gotmail?
[09:40] <gcj> hi all, NetworkManager is working very badly for me since upgrading to Feisty, it never gets an IP by DHCP on wired network, any ideas?
[09:40] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook no problem, if that does not solve your problem feel free to come back :)
[09:41] <Desert_Storm> Thank you all, for helping
[09:41] <Mr_Awesome> hi, im having trouble setting up my printer. im following these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=lexmark+howto. when i get to the part where it says to mount the usb filesystem and edit the /etc/fstab file, i have no idea what to actually do. could someone please help me out?
[09:41] <neopsyche> im behind a router... but not sure ... router not configured amazingly... the router is behind another network.. i just want to be able to know if there is some whacky program trying to access the internet without me knowing.. i only recently installed ubuntu.. so still windows paranoid
[09:41] <Desert_Storm> Im gonna go now, bye
[09:41] <cosmodad> neopsyche: are you behind a NAT
[09:41] <cosmodad> neopsyche: ?
[09:41] <SeeBee> And oh, just one more question.
[09:42] <SeeBee> (hd1,0) is the correct syntax?
[09:42] <SeeBee> Or is it (hd 1,0)
[09:42] <zxcv_> is possible to use the nvidia and fglrx driver at the same time?
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Mr_Awesome:  from terminal gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:42] <iyntx> i use update ubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 and my X not started after reboot. Help me:'(. X system report error "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! " but my nvidia drivers has bin installed (gf6500 | i use nvidia-glx(not legacy and nvidia-new))
[09:42] <BLOBO> anyone can help me ? :P http://pastebin.com/m3e6c2a1b installed latest nvida drivers works fine but enemy territory dont wanna work i am using 64bit kubuntu :&
[09:42] <SeeBee> And (hd1,1) is the first partition in the second disk drive right?
[09:43] <FastPutty> is there a way i see all data hex and snifff packets info that go trough eth0 with tcpdump?
[09:43] <Mr_Awesome> Jack_Sparrow: ah, i see. thanks a lot
[09:43] <cliang> run sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <Jack_Sparrow> SeeBee: second partition..
[09:43] <gcj> FastPutty, tcpdump -s 0 -X
[09:43] <[Ramy] > i have a prb with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz , i got this wrror message : Could not download all repository indexes
[09:43] <[Ramy] > The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[09:43] <[Ramy] > error*
[09:43] <iyntx> in version 7.04 i'm use envy for install driver nvidia
[09:43] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[09:44] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:44] <dgjones> !gutsy | iyntx
[09:44] <ubotu> iyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> FastPutty: you can install a network sniffer like etherape
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy heron
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> iyntx: your entire problem is that you used the envy script...
[09:44] <LinuxJuggalo> !hardy
[09:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[09:45] <`Matir> What is the best way to mount drives from another linux computer?  I've looked at NFS, CIFS, and SSHFS... NFS seems complex and seems to have security issues... CIFS seems windows-oriented, and SSHFS seems like a bit of a hack... what do you all think?
[09:45] <bill__> yes.
[09:45] <iyntx> :(
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba
[09:45] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:45] <dgjones> Matir, I use NFS, it seemed the simplest method & has worked brilliantly
[09:45] <LinuxJuggalo> i wont install 7.10, ill wait for hardy i like LTS releases
[09:46] <`Matir> dgjones, do you run it on the standard ports?
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LinuxJuggalo: YOu can do what I do.. I have two different ubuntu's on same machine..
[09:46] <iyntx>  < ubotu> iyntx: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of
[09:46] <linux4me> how do i add kernel support for ipvs? i'm running ubuntu fiesty. i ran "sudo apt-get install ipvsadm and it says the kernel does not support IPVS
[09:46] <bill__> run openvz
[09:46] <dgjones> Matir, yes, just straight installation, connecting by ip address (my router gives a fixed ip to each machine)
[09:47] <phatfish> The current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?
[09:47] <iyntx> thnx for info :(
[09:47] <LinuxJuggalo> Jack_Sparrow im fine just with 7.04 for now :)
[09:47] <puma> how to join gtsuy?
[09:47] <peter_>  anyone uses gotmail?
[09:47] <Enselic> puma: "join gutsy"?
[09:47] <puma> yes
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> slashj #Ubuntu+1
[09:48] <IdahoEv_> help, I cannot get apache2 to run.  I installed with "apt-get install apache2", and apt claims that it is installed and up-to-date.   conf files look good.   But /etc/init.d/apache2 start  (or restart) does not produce any output and apache does not show up under ps waux | grep apache
[09:48] <Enselic> puma: maybe the answer is: type /j #ubuntu+1  in your irc client
[09:48] <peter_> puma do u use gotmail?
[09:48] <Enselic> Jack_Sparrow: // gives /
[09:48] <neopsyche> Is there no ftp client that has gui that can cut / paste
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[09:48] <Enselic> / <- like that
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> /
[09:48] <Enselic> neopsyche: Nautilus
[09:49] <LinuxJuggalo> neopsyche: gftp and filezilla
[09:49] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: no go :(
[09:49] <remi____> Desert_Storm, do you have virtual desktops working correctly with beryl ?
[09:49] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?
[09:49] <Enselic> neopsyche: just use the normal file namanger
[09:49] <Textbook> < = sound guy
[09:49] <Enselic> neopsyche: Places -> Connect to server    and choose FTP
[09:50] <izm99> in launchpad, how should I suggest a bug be closed?  I reported it, but I don't see the option anywhere...
[09:50] <overclucker>  // = escape char
[09:50] <remi____> beryl on ubuntu sux.
[09:50] <Absolute0> for some reason everything i try to install is unathenticated, is there a way to fix this?
[09:50] <PKdoR> is there a wine IRC?
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> winehq
[09:50] <overclucker> oks
[09:50] <overclucker> oops
[09:50] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: what does it say when you type: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[09:51] <overclucker> \
[09:52] <amadeux> isn't this bug pretty severe? bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636
[09:52] <Discerer> when doing sudo apt-get install proftd on a fresh install of feisty, I get this:
[09:52] <Discerer> ProFTPd warning: cannot start in neither standalone nor inetd/xinetd.
[09:52] <Discerer> ideas?
[09:52] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: Codec: Realtek ALC861-VD
[09:52] <Textbook> Codec: Generic 11c1 Si3054
[09:52] <Enselic> Discerer: read the README and INSTALL files in /usr/share/docs/proftp or similar
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Discerer: which repo is that comming from?
[09:53] <Enselic> Discerer: look for instalation notes
[09:53] <PKdoR> im wondering if its better to use wine with the original windows libaries or not?
[09:53] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, it's obvious it is a post install script that is running the daemon, and that is an error coming from the daemon not apt
[09:53] <Discerer> Jack_Sparrow ? it's all default
[09:53] <proog> GRUB is very slow at starting if I have a USB flash disk plugged in while booting. Why is this?
[09:53] <Discerer> yes bruenig
[09:53] <Enselic> PKdoR: how do you mean?
[09:53] <IdahoEv_> please help: apache2 does not start when I run "/etc/init.d/apache2 start".   What should I look for?
[09:53] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: play around with it, there are a few things you can do like in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base set options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Afternoon bruenig...
[09:54] <Enselic> IdahoEv_: the logs in /var/logs/apache2
[09:54] <gnuskool> do you guys reckon ubuntu will ever catch mac n vista in looks?
[09:54] <LinuxJuggalo> or options snd-hda-intel model=genric or generic
[09:54] <bruenig> !ot | gnuskool
[09:54] <ubotu> gnuskool: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:54] <Discerer> that was what happened when I tried to launch proftpd (or rather, it tried to launch itself) after the apt-get thing was done
[09:54] <Enselic> gnuskool: of course, it's only a matter of time, not competence
[09:54] <Textbook> LinuxJuggalo: thanks a lot
[09:54] <bruenig> Discerer, so troubleshoot the program, saying it happens when you use apt is misleading
[09:54] <IdahoEv_> Enselic: all files in  in /var/logs/apache2 are empty, no messages
[09:54] <LinuxJuggalo> Textbook: no problem :)
[09:54] <PKdoR> Enselic: i was reading the wine facts and it says something about using the original ms DLL intead of the winehq probided API
[09:55] <gnuskool> Enselic: i duuno, ey, the basic stuff like fonts, themes n that are a major challenge for linux
[09:55] <Enselic> IdahoEv_: look where apache puts it log files then
[09:55] <Textbook> see, I did do a little homework myself, because I had already upgraded to the latest dev releases of alsa drivers/lib/utils , and the internal speakers are actually working a lot better than they were before
[09:55] <Enselic> PKdoR: I see, well that's better to ask at #winehq then
[09:55] <Discerer> it just confuses me that ubuntuguide.org says that sudo apt-get install proftpd is all you need to do... it doesn't hint that anything else needs to be done to make it actually work
[09:56] <Enselic> gnuskool: in what way is it a major challenge
[09:56] <IdahoEv_> Enselic: that is where it puts the logs.   There is nothing there because /etc/init.d never even started apache
[09:56] <proog> no one knows why GRUB gets so slow when a USB device is plugged in?
[09:56] <bruenig> Discerer, it is a problem with proftpd, also ubuntuguide.org, not an official site, lot of it is old and crap
[09:56] <gnuskool> Enselic: it never seems to improve, fonts a re still ugly, so a re icons
[09:56] <PKdoR> ens
[09:56] <Enselic> IdahoEv_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2 and restart
[09:57] <svisor> Playing around with 7.10... At first when I resized a window it was "animated". Now after an update its just a blue rectangle and no animation.
[09:57] <PKdoR> Enselic: ty i already did and am just waiting to get someones attention at that channel
[09:57] <gnuskool> is it lack of 'artsy' types in open-source?
[09:57] <proog> gnuskool: you do know that GNOME is skinnable, right?
[09:57] <bruenig> proog, Enselic, seriously don't bite
[09:57] <__mikem> gnuskool, they are out there
[09:57] <svisor> Tried to reset the visual effect to "Extra" and did not get it back. How do I get it back?
[09:58] <Enselic> gnuskool: download any distro 5 years old and everything looks far worse the currently. in another 5 years, things will look even better. have patience
[09:58] <bruenig> !troll | gnuskool
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <bruenig> guy comes in and says when will linux catch up with mac or windows in his first statement and the idiots answer
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys ... please take it to off topic... Enselic   gnuskool
[09:59] <Enselic> it's ok, I'm done ayway :) cheers
[09:59] <IdahoEv_> no output from "dpkg-reconfigure apache2", no change and still no output from "/ect/init.d/apache2 start"
[09:59] <gnuskool> proog: yeah,i skin my xfce desktop to the max, but i see forums filled with noobies who cant manually install icons, themes, etc,
[09:59] <IdahoEv_> this is very odd
[09:59] <gnuskool> bruenig: i aint trolling, those a re honest concerns
[09:59] <svisor> MOT: OpenOffice weblinks does no longer work as you click on em. Now you have to right click and choose to open em. Can I get back the old behaviour somehow?
[10:00] <gnuskool> Jack_Sparrow: k
[10:00] <bruenig> gnuskool, the first question you asked when you came in here was that, it is obvious what you are doing, I commend you for coming in here realizing this channel is full of ubuntu users who well you know, but seriously don't take advantage of them, it's like messing with retarded kids in school or something
[10:00] <IdahoEv_> other info:   I tried remove/reinstall apache2.   It says it only removed and then reinstalled 86Kb of files, which seems very small for apache2...
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gnuskool: If they cant drop a tar file from gmome-look.org onto the theme manager I worry for all society
[10:01] <NMajik> Is there a file that contains a list of installed packages?
[10:01] <bruenig> NMajik, dpkg --get-selections
[10:01] <LjL> NMajik: you can create one by typing " dpkg --get-selections > filename "
[10:01] <puma> ?join ubuntu 1?
[10:01] <defrysk>  /j #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <NMajik> bruenig & LjL : Thanks
[10:02] <puma>  /j #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <puma> no action
[10:02] <LjL> puma: ... without the leading spaces
[10:03] <IdahoEv_> "apache2ctl start" gives an error:  "(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80"
[10:03] <defrysk> :s
[10:03] <IdahoEv_> and also "unable to open logs"
[10:05] <gnuskool> ! off topic
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <Scunizi> IdahoEv_, you might ask some of this in #ubuntu-server
[10:05] <gnuskool> !off-topic
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <gnuskool> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <overclucker> nospace
[10:06] <justin420> hi there everybody, can anyone tell me what package i have to sudo apt-get remove--purge to get rid of mysqld_safe?
[10:06] <overclucker> > !offtopic
[10:07] <genii> mysql-server
[10:07] <justin420> genii: looking at synaptic its not installed?
[10:07] <Nalleman> Does anyone have any tips for any good program for editing .mov files?
[10:08] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???
[10:08] <e\ectro_> is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?
[10:08] <genii> justin420: Well, thats the package
[10:09] <ubuntu_> Everytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this_
[10:09] <timstokman> hi, is there any way to make that, when i am using wifi wpa enterprise, the inner authentication protocol for TTLS is PAP? I can't see anything in the dialog that pops up when connecting to my network. And how can I set per-network preferences for my wifi card?
[10:09] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on systemcontrol too what is happening here???
[10:10] <justin420> genii: any other ideas then? should i just kill the process and hope it doesnt restart next time or what? i have tried installing mythtv  recently if that helps at all. i have sudo apt-get remove --purge EVERYTHING that was installed when I did install mythtv
[10:10] <wolferine> Morgane, 'ps -A  | grep kopete'
[10:10] <overclucker> Morgane: is there n icon for it on top gnome pannel?
[10:10] <line72> is there a way to get evolution to pop-up reminders like it used to instead of using the notification area?
[10:11] <genii> justin420: mythtv likely installed something as backend for storage which pulled in the mysql daemon
[10:11] <Morgane> no overlucker that is what is so strange
[10:12] <Morgane> overlucker well an icon to execute the program yes
[10:12] <wolferine> Morgane, your aware of shell/terminal commands, coredct ?
[10:12] <wolferine> correct*
[10:12] <Morgane> wolferine not really am a beginner
[10:13] <bieb> justin420, did you like ubuntu as a mythtv os?
[10:13] <genii> justin420: perhaps try the --purge on packages mythtv-backend and mythtv-database
[10:13] <justin420> genii: here is a list of everything i did, to get rid of mythtv and all other dependencies.
[10:13] <justin420> http://pastebin.ca/723453
[10:14] <tdizzy> !GRUB
[10:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:14] <Morgane> not possible to kill the process :(
[10:14] <justin420> bieb: it looked like it would be really cool; but i couldnt get any of my settings to save; so i couldnt add my tv tuner card that was detected just fine.
[10:14] <ipx> Everytime I launch windows(xp) it automatically sets that partition to 'boot'-flag, and i have to manually boot with live-cd and set the ubuntu one to boot. How can I come around this?
[10:14] <{[rediz] }> SCROFT: r u livin in c-croft westyorks?
[10:15] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:15] <justin420> bieb: if i get a newer pc; i think i just may install knopmyth distro on this pc, to check that out. i heard that is an awesome distro just for myth
[10:15] <exact> hello
[10:16] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and on
[10:16] <bieb> I am getting ready to build a PC to use for Myth, so just trying to hear others experiences
[10:16] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?
[10:16] <Morgane> please can anybody help me i dont understand this i closed kopete but i see on my firewall that it is still running and cannot kill the process
[10:16] <KidProQuo>  /join #ubuntu-art
[10:17] <riotkittie> Morgane: kill it with -9 ?
[10:17] <riotkittie>  or killall?
[10:17] <tdizzy> can anyone offer me any help?
[10:17] <Morgane> riotkittie how i do that?
[10:18] <bewst> suspend to ram not working for me; I've exhausted online clues I could find.  Anyone care to assist?
[10:18] <hal14450_> Morgane, kill -9 <pid> or killall <process name>
[10:18] <Morgane> ok thanks hal14450
[10:18] <sharperguy> anyone know of a good app for composing music scores?
[10:18] <genii> tdizzy: You need to change ownership of that file to the user which that directory belongs. Then after to change the permissions on it to 644
[10:18] <tdizzy> i did that...
[10:18] <jimmygoon> This isn't _exactly_ ubuntu based but can anyone recommend a decent Live disc to wipe a hard drive off?
[10:19] <bieb> knoppix or use ubuntu live
[10:19] <genii> tdizzy: Then delete it. It will be recreated next time X runs
[10:19] <garette> !pidgin
[10:19] <riotkittie> slax. deb based live CDs make me want to cry
[10:19] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[10:19] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:20] <Puenktchen> hallo
[10:20] <riotkittie> forced by AOL's legal dept.  oh my gaaaawd.
[10:20] <bieb> jimmygoon.. use knoppix or ubuntu live
[10:20] <overclucker> harro
[10:20] <e\ectro_> is there a way to apt-mirror both i386 / x86_64 to the same box?
[10:20] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, lol
[10:21] <exact> jimmygoon: use /dev/urandom ro overwrite your data several times, else you can use 'wipe' to delete compromising files, (i'd recommand using dd to copy /dev/urandom several times on the partition you wish to erase, though)
[10:21] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:21] <bieb> Jimmy.. you can also use shred
[10:22] <exact> bieb: arent shred and wipe from the same package?
[10:22] <bieb> ummm.. good question.. I havent used wipe before, but have used shred
[10:22] <tdizzy> !kde
[10:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[10:23] <all_over> /server irc.vetorialnet.com.br
[10:23] <exact> bieb: nope, you're right, they're different packages
[10:23] <tdizzy> !xcfe
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xcfe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <tdizzy> oops
[10:23] <tdizzy> lol
[10:23] <tdizzy> !xfce
[10:23] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:23] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time?
[10:24] <exact> feisty 7.04 btw
[10:24] <bieb> exact, I think shred is still the package the feds claim does the best job of clearing a drive so no trace of forensic data
[10:24] <all_over> /server irc.brasnet.org
[10:24] <riotkittie> i dont think the settings mix up. the apps just overlap in the menu
[10:24] <john_doe> If I install 7.10 now, will I then have to reinstall when it's released as stable?
[10:24] <Amaranth> john_doe: nope
[10:25] <MoNsTeR> tdizzy, how do i get support for kubuntu
[10:25] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: there's a #kubuntu
[10:25] <john_doe> Amaranth: I'll just apt-get upgrade?
[10:25] <MoNsTeR> riotkittie, ight thanks man
[10:25] <__mikem> Amaranth, why does it say that bantracker has been shut down to anonymous users due to server load?
[10:25] <exact> bieb: i don't know who said what, but i'm quite sure that if you overwrite a file over 300 times with random data, someone who'd like to look at what was there will have a damn good time ;)
[10:25] <Amaranth> john_doe: yeah
[10:25] <Amaranth> __mikem: *shrug*
[10:25] <tdizzy> genii: when i delete the file, it gives the same error when i boot
[10:26] <john_doe> Amaranth: great thanks!
[10:26] <yrlnry__> How do I change the meaning of an entry in the Applications>Programming menu?
[10:26] <Auckla> Hi.
[10:27] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:27] <KDEusr> can someone tell me how i can ignore a broken package with synaptic?
[10:27] <Vlet> So, I'm having a problem on 7.04 where whenever I paste anything, all that gets pasted is a bunch of junk (looks like opening unicode text with a non-unicode app)... any thoughts why?
[10:28] <bieb> By default shred overwrites a file 25 times with random data
[10:28] <justin420> yrlnry__: right click on the applications places system menu: click on edit menus. find your app (i.e applications>programming>program i am looking for) double click on it, then tweak it the way you want it
[10:28] <boubbin> is it possible to install all available and supported *-dev packages ?
[10:28] <riotkittie> it should rewrite it with a bunch of the nigerian scam emails :D
[10:28] <kesha> ..
[10:28] <KDEusr> i've gotta have this package installed but every time i load synaptic it complains that the package is broken
[10:28] <boubbin> with one command ofc :P
[10:28] <yrlnry__> justin420: thanks.
[10:28] <__mikem> sudo apt-get install *dev*
[10:29] <__mikem> ?
[10:29] <justin420> yrlnry__: yeah dude no problem! :)
[10:29] <genii> tdizzy: Are you using sudo with the commands to rm or chmod or chown ?
[10:29] <bieb> exact... here is the final answer for getting rid of data... For the extremely paranoid, however, no command works better than concentrated sulphuric acid. LOL
[10:29] <KDEusr> can i get a hand?
[10:29] <KDEusr> anyone?
[10:29] <exact> heh, funnily enough my random kde wallpaper is now set to guybrush threepwood (MI) holding a two headed squirrel (ZMK) in front of the purple tentacle (MM)... for all the lucas fan here, i can send a copy somewhere....
[10:29] <exact> bieb: lol ;)
[10:29] <bieb> KDE... just use apt-get install and see if that works
[10:30] <KDEusr> see if that works for what?
[10:30] <tdizzy> genii: yeah i used to sudo to remove the file
[10:30] <SpiderPig> i have a router in order so many computers can share the internet connection. is there a way for me to monitor the traffic over the router? app name please
[10:30] <KDEusr> im not sure i understand what you are trying to get me to do
[10:30] <tdizzy> genii: i used sudo**
[10:30] <david003> hello. i have an ".ace" file, how do i extract the contents?
[10:30] <exact> bieb: http://driveslag.eecue.com/
[10:30] <bieb> KDE... see if that will install the package
[10:30] <KDEusr> what i am trying to do, ignore a broken package with synaptic. i did it before, i just cant find how to do it on google
[10:30] <bruenig> !info unace
[10:30] <bill__> SpiderPig, mrtg, ntop ...
[10:31] <SpiderPig> bill thanks
[10:31] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-4 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:31] <overlord> I have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?
[10:31] <genii> tdizzy: OK. is the /home/<name>   directory the .dmrc is in correspond to the <name> which you are logging in as?
[10:31] <tdizzy> yeah
[10:32] <bieb> exact.. that is cool
[10:32] <Absorto> hello! I have an hp pavillion dv2~ laptop which has an additional video port. I'd like to see my display on a projector. How can I do this?
[10:32] <Absorto> I tried Fn+F4, but that doesn't work. I tried changing the resolution too. No luck.
[10:32] <exact> bieb: i'm not sure if "cool" is the best term to describe it, but i'm quite sure you can say your data "bye bye" ;-)
[10:32] <genii> tdizzy: Did you recently copy this dir back in from someplace else without using -p switch in the cp command?
[10:33] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:33] <tdizzy> no
[10:34] <exact> how can i determine what daemons are running and how to select which one to start up at boot time? (feisty)
[10:34] <david003> bruenig: can you be more specific? i install unace, then what?
[10:34] <genii> tdizzy: Have you been starting the machine with the Recovery kernel then trying to start the X server?
[10:34] <bjwebb> can anyone expalin this http://pastebin.ca/723482
[10:34] <overlord> I have a 4.1 surround sound channel.  My front speakers are working, but my rear speakers aren't. Any idea?
[10:34] <tdizzy> no i didnt
[10:34] <Absorto> exact: look at scripts that start with S in /etc/rc2.d
[10:34] <bruenig> david003, man unace
[10:34] <Absorto> exact: those are started automatically. They are simbollyc links to scripts in /etc/init.d/
[10:35] <exact> Absorto: ok, that's it... thanks a lot :) i was looking in rc5 and rc3...
[10:35] <CommonClone> I tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas?
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: i'm not sure how it works now. There used to be a file /etc/inittab
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: that file had a line that configured the default runlevel. It isn't there anymore, I dunno why.
[10:36] <Absorto> exact: but 2 seems to be the default
[10:36] <genii> tdizzy: I would suggest something like:    sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>           where <name> is the user name which corresponds to this obviously. then: sudo chmod 644 /home/<name>/.dmrc
[10:36] <jimmygoon> delayed response: @bieb, exact, not to be too picky, but I was hoping for something that would simply zero the hard drive... but I suppose using /dev/urandom would be fine for that
[10:37] <cazze> hi
[10:38] <cazze> anyone xen on gutsy?
[10:38] <CommonClone> I tried to use this script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990 to install ndiswrapper on 7.04 and now my computer won't get past the configuring networks stage of reboot...any ideas...I would really like to be able to reboot my computer
[10:38] <heman> Hello
[10:38] <remi____> pb with beryl/xgl : When i click on the left-bottom hand side, with xgl enabled, all task bars / menus disappear. Any ideas ?
[10:38] <heman> I have a question please about ubuntu
[10:38] <exact> Absorto: yes, that what i was looking for too, and the graphical tools werent helping me a bit to find the runlevel or what was running or not, but you seems to be right, thanks a lot for your help :-)
[10:38] <bobgill> anyone here using Thunderbird? I'm trying to upgrade to 2.0.0.6 from 1.5.. just downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla's site, but what is the install path of Thunderbird where I would install it to ?
[10:39] <genii> tdizzy: You may also want to do:  sudo chown -R <name>:<name> /home/<name>/.*                     <-- note /.*     after <name> as different from previous command
[10:39] <_Ren> @remi: you must have some "action" configured to that edge of the screen
[10:39] <pthomas> Can I change the font, or at least the font size of command-line?
[10:39] <heman> can I get a dreamscene affect in ubuntu other than VLC
[10:39] <_Ren> bobgill: you should grab thunderbird from the repos
[10:39] <heman> like a compiz plugin or something...?
[10:40] <bobgill> _Ren: I did.. it's 1.5, I want to upgrade to 2.0.0.6
[10:40] <SpiderPig> bill_ so how does mrtg work?
[10:40] <_Ren> bobgill: that's the most recen version on the feisty repos?
[10:40] <_Ren> weird
[10:40] <SpiderPig> bill_ is it graphical or command?
[10:40] <alcaponage> Someone help me please, my ubuntu won't start~
[10:40] <bobgill> yes
[10:41] <heman> is this the wrong place to ask about that?
[10:41] <_Ren> that sucks
[10:41] <Abd> good evening all
[10:41] <_Ren> well, then
[10:41] <alcaponage> I accidentally unplugged my usb without unmounting
[10:41] <alcaponage> Now it wont' start
[10:41] <mainstream> i got a problem also... my sound aint working :|
[10:41] <bruenig> bobgill, you aren't going to be able to outright upgrade because ubuntu does some weird stuff with thunderbird and firefox
[10:41] <_Ren> if you downloaded a binary tar.gx it should run off the directory where you extracted it
[10:41] <PKdoR> is there a net limiter for linux?
[10:42] <_Ren> just double click the binary, check for execution permission if it doesn't work
[10:42] <PKdoR> a bandwith limiter?
[10:42] <bobgill> I have found this: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/    <-- recommended or avoid ?
[10:42] <alcaponage> Can someone help me? my ubuntu won't start
[10:42] <strav> he I switched to gutsy beta yesterday and went into a bug I would like to see if it can be reproduced. Mainly, there seems to be a problem with the xorg frame buffer driver. If you install the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev and xvfb packages, you should normally be able to set a vga value (i.e.: vga=792) as an option to the kernel in grub then your virtual terminal should ran into a resolution of 1024x768, on my side, with those settings, virtual terminals w
[10:42] <strav> on't load. The same settings worked for me in feisty so, if anyone is willing to try...
[10:42] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:42] <mainstream> lol so many problems here :P
[10:42] <tdizzy> genii: i got the very same errors again
[10:42] <bruenig> bobgill, even though those two aren't fhs complaint and therefore should be installed in /opt, ubuntu tries to cut them up until they are somewhat fhs complaint and so stuff is all over the place, the best way to do it is just extract into /opt, write .desktop file that points to the binary
[10:42] <alcaponage> I get RAMDISK: ram out of compressed data and
[10:43] <Abd> I did something i should have not done with file flder permissions
[10:43] <_Ren> couldn't tell if it works or not
[10:43] <heman> please may somebody answer my question about dreamscene for UBUNTU
[10:43] <alcaponage> Invalid compressed format (err=1)
[10:43] <bruenig> this guy got a sourceforge project for scripting the install of another program?
[10:43] <bruenig> wow
[10:43] <_Ren> actually, I didn't know a bout
[10:43] <_Ren> it
[10:43] <heman> Is there an application like compiz that I could use...
[10:43] <Abd> so can someone tell me how to reset to the defaut permissions of /usr/bin?
[10:43] <tdizzy> !beryl
[10:43] <mainstream> can anyone help me? i got a problem with my sound
[10:43] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:43] <bruenig> !problem
[10:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <Baumer> Hi I'm an idiot and need help with getting wireless to work
[10:43] <jtkiefer> is there any way to update from 6.06 to 6.10 (and then eventually to 7.04) without doing the migrate your /home trick?
[10:44] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with a problem i get these two errors, one after another, when I try to login to Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39337/ and then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:44] <_Ren> @jtkiefer
[10:44] <_Ren> yes, you can
[10:44] <genii> tdizzy: I'm out of immediate ideas then. Something very odd is going on unless you are running X as root for instance in another users home directory or similar. Or perhaps somehow did already a mistaken chown -R of /home directory to someone else besides <name> where they need to own /home/<name>
[10:44] <heman> Can I get a dream scene effect in UBUNTU 7.04
[10:44] <_Ren> just run update-manager -d from a terminal
[10:44] <jtkiefer> ok, thanks
[10:44] <_Ren> It will tell you that there's a new version of ubuntu
[10:44] <mainstream> _Ren
[10:44] <Baumer> My wireless card is missing
[10:44] <bobgill> bruenig: ok... so I could extract the thunderbird.tar.gz to /opt ? Sorry, I just didn't follow exactly
[10:45] <heman> anyone...?
[10:45] <bruenig> bobgill, extract it, put the directory in /opt and done
[10:45] <strav> oh np... I just found the bug in launchpad.. thanks anyways
[10:45] <_Ren> bobgill: it should work on any directory
[10:45] <PKdoR> is there a bandwith limiter for ubuntu?
[10:45] <_Ren> even your desktop
[10:45] <jtkiefer> Ren, everything else has to be patched up first for it to work though right?
[10:45] <_Ren> jtk: exactly
[10:45] <Abd> how can I reset the /usr/bin permissions to default?
[10:46] <bruenig> Abd, just the directory?
[10:46] <bruenig> like nothing in the directory?
[10:46] <Abd> yes
[10:46] <_Ren> Abd: you shouldn't have changed them in the first place xD
[10:46] <bruenig> Abd, 755 I'm sure
[10:46] <Abd> yes i know :(
[10:46] <tck> Abd, chmod 755 /usr/bin
[10:47] <genii> tdizzy: For the second one, sudo chmod 755 /home/<name>
[10:47] <tdizzy> k
[10:47] <Abd> cool thanks
[10:47] <Baumer> Hello, I'm an idiot... but eth0, which I set as my wireless card cannot be found
[10:47] <Lhademmor> Anyone who knows why https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/techboard-2006 is still Pending Approval? Isn't it a little obsolete?
[10:47] <tck> Baumer, try eth1
[10:47] <aoito> t
[10:47] <Baumer> I've been trying to get it to work
[10:47] <tck> or wlan0
[10:47] <bruenig> or ath0
[10:47] <Baumer> So far unsuccesfull... now I'm very unsuccesful
[10:47] <bruenig> or just do things blindly because I don't know what I am talking about
[10:48] <tdizzy> genii: k that took care of the first problem, but ive still got the second
[10:48] <bruenig> oh sorry became tck for a second
[10:48] <tck> Baumer, what does iwconfig say
[10:48] <Baumer> Ok, eth1 is my ethernet
[10:48] <Baumer> it lists eth1 and lo
[10:48] <MoNsTeR> can somebody help me with beryl i have beryl with xgl working on gnome but how do i make another session with it for kde
[10:48] <tck> BaD_CrC, iwconfig eth1 essid 'name of network' key s:mypassword Mode Managed
[10:48] <Scunizi> MoNsTeR, #ubuntu-effects
[10:48] <genii> tdizzy: I need to leave work in about 5 minutes so cannot help much more at this time
[10:48] <tck> sorry what was for Baumer
[10:48] <Baumer> it lists lo and eth1 and says no wireless extensions
[10:49] <tdizzy> genii: got any idea?
[10:49] <Luke_S> Anyone here use reconstructor before?
[10:49] <bobgill> bruenig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543715    would you recommend using this method ? (extracting to /opt seems fine but just curious)
[10:49] <Abd> earlier I did this chmod a+rwx /usr/bin how to undo that?
[10:49] <Baumer> but I set eth1 as my ethernet card in installation
[10:49] <genii> tdizzy: remove again the .dmrc file
[10:49] <bruenig> bobgill, it isn't curious, that is where ubuntu should put it to begin with
[10:49] <tck> Abd, chmod a-rwx /usr/bin
[10:49] <Baumer> eth0 was set as my wireless... it used to be there until I installed ndiswrapper
[10:49] <Abd> thanks again tck
[10:50] <whonicca> would there be any logical explanation for me to randomly lose all my icon themes besides crux ?
[10:50] <bruenig> Abd, you don't want to do that
[10:50] <tck> Baumer, go to System > Administration > Network
[10:50] <_Ren> whonicca: no
[10:50] <Abd> why?
[10:50] <tck> is your wirless card option available
[10:50] <whonicca> have no idea what happened =\
[10:50] <Baumer> nope
[10:50] <bruenig> Abd, well because then no will have permission to do anything, three people told you to do 755
[10:50] <_Ren> whonicca: it happens usually?
[10:50] <exact> is there a version of ubuntu with nothing setup (no gnome, no X, etc...?)
[10:50] <genii> tdizzy: Good luck with it, I must leave.
[10:50] <_Ren> exact: yes, server
[10:51] <whonicca> _Ren, first time it ever happened
[10:51] <_Ren> server edition, sorry
[10:51] <recon>  Does anybody know how to type an invisible ASCII Character (SOH, hex 0x1, octal 001) in the virtual terminal? Heck, typing it anywhere in X would be useful, too.
[10:51] <Baumer> tck: nope
[10:51] <Luke_S> Can you make a CD that only has X and no desktop manager?
[10:51] <tck> Baumer, is there a wireless LED on your laptop to tell its detected
[10:51] <Abd> yes when i did the chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder i realy could not do a thing
[10:51] <heman> does anyone know how to get a dreamscene effect in UBUNTU?
[10:51] <Abd> i'm trying to undo it
[10:51] <_Ren> whonicca: weird problem, never happened to me. did you mess up with tools like art manager or something?
[10:52] <exact> _Ren: and it just installs a base system? no servers too? (it might sounds like a stupid question, i know)
[10:52] <bruenig> Abd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxrw-rw-, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------
[10:52] <Baumer> Yes
[10:52] <Baumer> It's not on
[10:52] <Lhademmor> !wiki
[10:52] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[10:52] <Abd> so what are the optins i have?
[10:52] <whonicca> _Ren, no, i was rebooting my system but it locked up so i shut it off via the power button
[10:52] <_Ren> exact: not really sure, since it's a server oriented distro it should *ask* for package selection
[10:52] <Lhademmor> Anyone knows what IRC the WikiSquad is in?
[10:52] <Abd> *options
[10:52] <bruenig> Abd, its not a matter of undoing the permissions were rwxr-xr-x, you by that command changed them to rwxrwxrwx, now you can't do -rwx, because that will make it ---------
[10:52] <bobgill> bruenig: I extracted the "thunderbird" dir to /opt... just ran thunderbird but it's still saying 1.5
[10:52] <tck> Baumer, does dmesg say anything about your card ; what type of card do you have ?
[10:52] <tdizzy> anyone got an help for my problem? i cant log in because i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[10:52] <whonicca> come back and icons are missing
[10:52] <heman> ubotu you takling to me?
[10:53] <bruenig> bobgill, what do you mean you "ran" it
[10:53] <heman> talking*
[10:53] <tdizzy> !lol
[10:53] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[10:53] <Baumer> It's a broadcom dell wireless ... I forget the number
[10:53] <bobgill> bruenig: did alt+f2 and "mozilla-thunderbird"
[10:53] <_Ren> whonicca: during bootup, did it complain about filesystem errors or something?
[10:53] <whonicca> is there a way to boot up without the ubuntu splash to see if i get any errors during bootup
[10:53] <tck> Baumer, have you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[10:53] <bruenig> Abd, to get back to rwxr-xr-x, you do 755 like they told you above
[10:53] <Creeture> tdizzy: I'm not sure how that message can be any clearer.
[10:53] <exact> _Ren: ok thanks for the information anyway i'm going to try it :-)
[10:53] <whonicca> _Ren, no, no errors
[10:53] <tck> hey Baumer i have that card, try this, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:53] <registere> I hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????
[10:53] <bruenig> bobgill, yeah don't do that, run the executable in the extracted directory
[10:53] <Abd> ok thanks again bruenig
[10:53] <tdizzy> Creeture: im a linux newb and dont understand how to fix the error
[10:53] <whonicca> _Ren, any way to boot up without the ubuntu splash?
[10:53] <registere> I hope some one might be able to help me.....I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu website for windows (iso).....I go to burn it but i get a error message that say's block size is invalid and I cannot get past this to burn the iso - please help ????
[10:54] <_Ren> whonicca: booting up in failsafe mode doesn't work?
[10:54] <whonicca> oh let me try that
[10:54] <whonicca> brb
[10:54] <Creeture> tdizzy: Was it ever working? What did you do that caused the breakage? Let's start there.
[10:54] <exact> whonicca: you should change your grub settings file (w8t a sec)
[10:54] <Baumer> tck:  dmesg doesn't say anything about my wireless
[10:54] <whonicca> oh ok
[10:54] <tck>  do the command above
[10:54] <Pallee> registere: try iso recorder by alex *something*
[10:55] <tck> Baumer,  sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:55] <z9999> Is there a way to list all installed codecs in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <bruenig> z9999, no
[10:55] <exact> whonicca: my /boot/grub/menu.lst file looks like this:
[10:55] <Creeture> registere: Feinman, Alex. http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[10:55] <exact> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=b41468c0-2d07-4668-8c3d-1212cbf60959 ro nosplash vga=0x31b
[10:55] <bobgill> bruenig: ok, it works... but it doesn't have my account info or anything... ie., it's perhaps not reading my ~/home/user/.thunderbird profile... how can I make it do that so I don't have to add everything all over again ??
[10:55] <exact> whonicca: the "nosplash" is what you want
[10:55] <whonicca> yeah
[10:55] <bruenig> bobgill, it should be reading it
[10:56] <exact> whonicca: the vga=0x31b means to set the framebuffer into 1280x1024x16 mode
[10:56] <heman> Does anyone know any other fun features that I can get for ubuntu please
[10:56] <bobgill> it's not :(
[10:56] <bruenig> bobgill, is it not .mozilla/thunderbird
[10:56] <Baumer> Hmm the download ran into broken link...
[10:57] <exact> whonicca: you can try a search on google for vga framebuffer grub modes or something like that to find a list
[10:57] <bobgill> bruenig: there's .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird in /home/user.
[10:57] <tck> Baumer, how do you mean?
[10:57] <bruenig> bobgill, ok so it is probably reading one and not the other try swapping them around
[10:57] <Creeture> whonicca: You can also look in the kernel documenation. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/vga.txt is where it is. Might have a gander at the git repository if you don't (you probably don't) have it installed.
[10:57] <tck> Baumer, what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:57] <tB> I was wondering if anyone here knew much about downloading source packages via apt, and then compiling it after modifying it.
[10:57] <heman> what channel should I go to, to ask questions not for support?
[10:58] <exact> whonicca: btw, i'm interrested on how to set RGB values to default colors in console mode, if you find anything, i'd take
[10:58] <Baumer> It got a 404 Not Found error while trying to connect to boredklink.googlepages.com|72.14.203.118|:80
[10:58] <whonicca> once u edit menu.lst
[10:58] <whonicca> whats the command to update grub
[10:58] <PKdoR> can any one recomend a bandwith limiter for linux?
[10:58] <heman> how do I change the top and bottom menu's theme please? I think thats relevant...
[10:58] <bobgill> bruenig: wow you doggone genius... switched the folder names and it has loaded it all up... why was it doing that (reading the opposite one) ??
[10:58] <piotr_> /wc/
[10:59] <exact> whonicca: it's not like lilo, you just reboot, grub will take care of going to read the configuration file
[10:59] <rabid42> whonicca there isn't one, grub rereads the menu.lst file on boot
[10:59] <LogicalDash> "There are differences between the boot sector and its backup." Is that important?
[10:59] <bruenig> if only people would use some basic logic, this channel would be half as full
[10:59] <VWJ1bnR1> When I installed the KDE, I lost the GDM, and so I can't get the GUI login.  How do I get it back?
[10:59] <exact> whonicca: want a copy paste of my menu.lst?
[10:59] <tck> Baumer, the laptop you are trying to configure, does it have net access ?
[10:59] <Baumer> Yep I'm using it
[10:59] <whonicca> thanks guys, i think i got it
[10:59] <Baumer> right now
[10:59] <Creeture> bruenig: What type of thinking leads you to that conclusion?
[10:59] <exact> k
[10:59] <exact> ;)
[11:00] <whonicca> im even missing the ubuntu symbol
[11:00] <Baumer> eth1 is ethernet hard wired
[11:00] <whonicca> on my taskbar
[11:00] <tck> Baumer, ok, try this site http://download.berlios.de/bcm43xx/b43-fwcutter-008.tar.bz2
[11:00] <whonicca> for the drop down menu =(
[11:00] <bruenig> Creeture, there are two directories .mozilla-thunderbird and .thunderbird, the thunderbird I just installed from mozilla is not reading my preferences, how do I get it to do that
[11:00] <Baumer> Ok Done
[11:00] <bruenig> hmmm
[11:00] <Megaqwerty> Hi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.
[11:01] <tdizzy> Creeture: yeah it was for a while; i accidently removed my ubuntu partition, then restored it and the GRUB, and i got that error when i tried to log in
[11:01] <tB> Does anyone know how to compile packages?
[11:01] <Creeture> bruenig: The one in /opt reads from ~/.thunderbird. The one in the Ubuntu repositories reads from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:01] <tck> Baumer, now extract it with, tar jxvf bcm*
[11:01] <bruenig> Creeture, yes, that is a question that someone just asked
[11:01] <tck> Baumer, then cd bcm* folder, ./configure ; make   (then do) sudo make install
[11:01] <Beefheart> whats the move command in linux please?
[11:02] <bruenig> Creeture, you are telling me that even elementary logic couldn't have solved that
[11:02] <bruenig> Beefheart, mv
[11:02] <Beefheart> ty
[11:02] <DShepherd> !compile | tB
[11:02] <ubotu> tB: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:02] <bobgill> bruenig: Sorry, some of us have many things going on in life that distracts us, I perhaps should've thought of that, but thanks for your help regardless, it's much appreciated :)
[11:02] <tB> Thanks :)
[11:02] <Creeture> bruenig: I'm pretty sure it could've, but I'm not sure that there's even a hint of elementary logic in the minds of most users.
[11:02] <jtkiefer> hmm, ubuntu doesn't come with a c++ compiler to deal with package building
[11:03] <bruenig> Creeture, right which is why I said what I said, I thought you were challenging my claim
[11:03] <Creeture> jtkiefer: It does if you aptitude install build-essential
[11:03] <Creeture> bruenig: Nah, I was being a smartass, that's all.
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Ye Olde https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcademicInvolvement is largely obsolete and should either be updated or deleted
[11:03] <Lhademmor> Can I get a volunteer from the audience? :P
[11:04] <Creeture> Lhademmor: How much do you care what it looks like when I'm done? *evil grin*
[11:04] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[11:04] <jrib> !compile > jtkiefer (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:04] <tck> Baumer, i gotta go, how are you getting on ?
[11:04] <Baumer> what was the second command?
[11:04] <Baumer> ./configure didn't work
[11:04] <tck> first is, ./configure   then you run
[11:04] <jtkiefer> jrib, thanks
[11:04] <tck> make
[11:04] <Lhademmor> Creeture: As long as you change the line "as of now (May 2005)..." I'm good :P
[11:04] <tck> then you run sudo make install
[11:04] <_Ren> maybe it doesn't have a configure file
[11:04] <Baumer> ./configure gave me No such file or directory
[11:05] <whonicca> still missing all my icons =\
[11:05] <_Ren> just try make then
[11:05] <_Ren> whonicca: sorry, I got afk
[11:05] <jtkiefer> is it just me or do a lot of the archive repositories (for dapper) return error 403 (forbidden)
[11:05] <Baumer> should I be running the file Makefile?
[11:05] <Baumer> or fwcutter?
[11:06] <_Ren> whonicca: I'm afraid I don't know exactly wat's going on
[11:06] <whonicca> this is weird since it seems like all my drives are loading fine
[11:06] <tdizzy> Creeture: so any idea how to fix it?
[11:06] <whonicca> i think it might be something with gnome that might have got screwed, maybe a config file
[11:06] <_Ren> whonicca: I first thought of a HD problem
[11:06] <tck> Baumer, join #m00
[11:06] <Megaqwerty> Hi, I was wondering if you delete an account in thunderbird, does the mail get deleted too? The account's mail is stored in the "Local folders" section.
[11:06] <Creeture> tdizzy: How did you restore the brokenness?
[11:06] <whonicca> can u log in as root on ubuntu?
[11:06] <whonicca> see if its just something to do with my home directory
[11:06] <Megaqwerty>  !root | whonicca
[11:06] <ubotu> whonicca: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:07] <_Ren> whonicca:by default, no
[11:07] <whonicca> nevermind ill just add a user
[11:07] <tdizzy> Creeture: TestDisk
[11:07] <_Ren> whonicca: try to add a new user and then check
[11:07] <tdizzy> !testdisk
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <Creeture> wonicca: Copy and paste that exact question in Google. See whatcha get.
[11:07] <tdizzy> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> Megaqwerty, not necessarily, look in your homedir in ,mozilla or .thunderbird
[11:07] <ljlolel> once, in installed Ubuntu and the only login was Root
[11:07] <tdizzy> !gnome
[11:07] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:07] <tdizzy> !chicken
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chicken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <ljlolel> there was both a root user and a root password
[11:07] <tdizzy> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> !bot abuse | tdizzy
[11:07] <Creeture> tdizzy: It's probably permissions. Walking you through how to fix it will be painful. Anything in there that you absolutely have to have?
[11:07] <ubotu> tdizzy: Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[11:08] <whonicca> great whats the command to add a user? the add users proggy on ubuntu isnt even loading up for me
[11:08] <bruenig> adduser
[11:08] <LjL> whonicca: adduser
[11:08] <tdizzy> Creeture: not really
[11:08] <bruenig> or useradd
[11:08] <bruenig> adduser is a front end
[11:08] <tdizzy> Creeture: know of any web tutorial to guide me through it?
[11:08] <Creeture> tdizzy: A complete install takes me about 15 minutes. We could spend a couple of hours trying to fix it if you like.
[11:08] <ljlolel> whonicca: adduser
[11:08] <whonicca> Password:
[11:08] <whonicca> adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[11:08] <ljlolel> whonicca: sudo adduser joseph
[11:08] <Shapeshifter> Question: There's an old package in my updater that shows up _all_the_time_ It won't go away by actually "updating" and it won't go away with apt-get autoclean. what can I do?
[11:09] <chris__> where would i go if im having problems with mozilla not responding?
[11:09] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: aptitude purge packagename
[11:09] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: Which package is it?
[11:09] <^Ocean^> is there a /dev/ device for the Micraphone ?
[11:09] <Seveas> Shapeshifter, sudo apt-get install name_of_that_package
[11:09] <^Ocean^> with Alsa ?
[11:09] <Absolute0> !xgl
[11:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:09] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: compiz-core ^^ and it's been there for weeks now. But I'm already on the newest version, that version there just seems to be nothing at all
[11:10] <Absolute0> !compiz
[11:10] <_Ren> Shapeshifter: from unofficial repos?
[11:10] <bottiger> where do I edit the message which is shown when you log in with ssh ?
[11:10] <Absolute0> how do i switch to compiz?
[11:10] <Seveas> bottiger, sudo gedit /etc/motd
[11:10] <Absolute0> it says that its already installed
[11:10] <erUSUL> bottiger: /etc/issue*
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> finally it looks I am connected in a chat
[11:10] <_Ren> System -> preferences -> desktop effects
[11:10] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: yes, amaranths
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> please can anybady help me
[11:10] <b_wolf_007> HELP
[11:11] <bottiger> Seveas: thanks
[11:11] <kaptengu> how can I use "svn checkout"?
[11:11] <Seveas> Absolute0, enable desktop effects in system -> preferences > desktop effects
[11:11] <Seveas> Absolute0, or run this: compiz --replace
[11:11] <Creeture> b_wolf_007: Try asking a question first. Then we'll determine if we can answer it.
[11:11] <preaction> kaptengu, apt-get install subversion
[11:11] <Beefheart> anyone here got any experience with installing Anarchy Online on linux?
[11:11] <Seveas> !helpme | b_wolf_007
[11:11] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <tdizzy> Creeture: the install of the OS is really fast, but everything else i had on it will take a while to put back on
[11:11] <kaptengu> preaction: ty
[11:11] <b_wolf_007> ok first of all greetengs 4 all of u
[11:11] <Absolute0> Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"
[11:11] <Creeture> tdizzy: You said there was nothing that you needed to keep.
[11:11] <b_wolf_007> I have to many questions
[11:11] <Seveas> !u b_wolf_007
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u b_wolf_007 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <_Ren> tdizzy: you should use aptoncd
[11:11] <Seveas> !u | b_wolf_007
[11:11] <Luke_S> Is there no way to create an Ubuntu CD that has X but not a destktop manager (GNOME/KDE, etc...)?????
[11:11] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:12] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: I had compiz-core installed from the beginning, after the second update (it may be that it was the point where I changed reps from tuxfamily to amaranths) that compiz-core package went sticky forever. and it says that the pacakge will be updated but the two packes totally match
[11:12] <Seveas> Luke_S, there is, search for live cd customization on the wiki
[11:12] <Absolute0> Luke_S: apt-get remove gnome? :)
[11:12] <tdizzy> _Ren: whats aptoncd?
[11:13] <Megaqwerty>  !aptoncd | tdizzy
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <b_wolf_007> I'm a tech  servicer , I'v worked to much with Windows, now I'm new in Ubuntu, I'v installed Ubuntu 7.04 one week ago
[11:13] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: I dunno. I try not to use anything outside of the normal repositories and despise the way those things you mentioned work. So good luck.
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> huh
[11:13] <Shapeshifter> Creeture: huh, ok thx nway
[11:13] <Megaqwerty> tdizzy: it makes a repository out of all the packages you've downloaded, and puts it on a CD.
[11:13] <_Ren> tdizzy: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs (you choose the type of media) with all of the packages you've downloaded via APT-GET or APTITUDE, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers.
[11:13] <_Ren> APTonCD will also allow you to automatically create media with all of your .deb packages located in one especific repository, so that you can install them into your computers without the need for an internet conection.
[11:13] <Luke_S> Seveas: Is there a way to do it using reconstructor?
[11:13] <b_wolf_007> and I want to try ubuntu 7.10, but i want to clear some steps during installation of ubuntu
[11:14] <tdizzy> thas
[11:14] <tdizzy> thanks*
[11:14] <VWJ1bnR1> When I tried to reload GDM, I got the following error message: invoce-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[11:14] <Seveas> Luke_S, I don't know reconstructor :)
[11:14] <b_wolf_007> i want to know what exactly am doing
[11:14] <Seveas> _Ren, I'm going to steal that description or ubotu :)
[11:14] <Creeture> Shapeshifter: Sorry. It's probably just a matter of making dpkg believe that the package is fully installed.
[11:14] <_Ren> Seveas: it's from the website
[11:14] <whonicca> Any special thing one needs to do to add / give a user gnome access?  I try to log in via gdm with my test account and it just stays locked up
[11:14] <Seveas> !aptoncd is <reply> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[11:14] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[11:15] <Absolute0> Seveas: it says "The composite extension is not available"
[11:15] <_Ren> whonica: you should add it to the desktop group
[11:15] <chris__> can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?
[11:15] <_Ren> whonica: but I'm not sure
[11:15] <Seveas> Absolute0, bad luck then
[11:15] <whonicca> addgrp?
[11:15] <Absolute0> Seveas: could that be because i have fglrx?
[11:15] <Seveas> yup yup
[11:15] <chook> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:15] <blue|palm> how do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file?
[11:16] <Seveas> fglrx needs xgl before you can run compiz
[11:16] <_Ren> Absolute0: yes, fglrx doesn't support compiz, sorry
[11:16] <Absolute0> so no way to get compiz working for me?
[11:16] <Seveas> lot of work
[11:16] <Seveas> Absolute0, yeah, but imho not worth the effort. Docs are on the wiki
[11:16] <Absolute0> ok
[11:16] <Absolute0> :)
[11:16] <Absolute0> will it work with xorg-ati driver?
[11:16] <Seveas> only if you have a rather old ati card
[11:17] <Devourer> What does "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" mean?
[11:17] <staykovmarin_> does ubuntu come with evdev installed?
[11:17] <chris__> can someone tell me which channel i should go to for help with drivers etc ?
[11:17] <Seveas> Absolute0, but ati recently released all their specs so maybe there's a working driver in Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 :)
[11:17] <blue|palm> how do I know what jre my ubuntu is using when I execute a jar file? and how do I change this?
[11:17] <Seveas> chris__, this one would be good to start :)
[11:17] <Seveas> blue|palm, java -version
[11:17] <jrib> staykovmarin_: no, but it is in the repos
[11:17] <Absolute0> which one is 8.04?
[11:17] <Seveas> blue|palm, and to change: sudo update-java-alternatives
[11:18] <Seveas> Absolute0, the one that will be released in april next year, codename Hardy Heron
[11:18] <chris__> ok theres too much going on here where else could i go ?
[11:18] <Devourer> !sound
[11:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:18] <erUSUL> Devourer: somehow your sound card was not recogniced and the drivers were not loaded... so you do not have the sound dev files
[11:18] <erUSUL> !sound | Devourer
[11:18] <ubotu> Devourer: please see above
[11:18] <Absolute0> oh
[11:18] <Absolute0> so let me search..
[11:18] <whonicca> _Ren, group desktop doesnt seem to exist
[11:18] <b_wolf_007> sorry for my U ok
[11:18] <jrib> !support > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:18] <blue|palm> Seveas, thanks loads
[11:18] <Lhademmor> Is http://www.ubuntu.com/community/developerzone/bounties outdated, or haven't any bounties been completed since 2005?!
[11:19] <jrib> !ask | chris__
[11:19] <ubotu> chris__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, very outdated
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, the entire bounty program is pretty much dead
[11:19] <staykovmarin_> jrib: thx
[11:19] <Lhademmor> Seveas: So, should you pull the plug and delete the page?
[11:19] <chris__> ok so if someone could recomend me a channel in irc to get help with drivers and resolution changes that would be awesome
[11:19] <Seveas> Lhademmor, yeah, someone should
[11:19] <^Ocean^> Is there a way too pipe sound too the Micraphone input too kinda of "Fake" sound input coming into the computer ?
[11:20] <leladia> pls i am trying to exclude two separate strings from my grep -v command line how do i do it?
[11:20] <Creeture> leladia: egrep -v "string1|string2" maybe?
[11:20] <Seveas> leladia, or run grep twice :)
[11:21] <jrib> chris__: you need to state your actual problem
[11:21] <Seveas> leladia, grep -v blabla /var/log/messages | grep -v bloblo
[11:21] <chris__> there is too much here scrolling for me
[11:21] <leladia>  Seveas: i don't want to run grep twice and i don't also want to use egrep
[11:22] <Seveas> leladia, then read the manpage for grep if you don't want to take suggestions
[11:22] <Russel> hiho
[11:22] <Seveas> btw, egrep is just grep -e
[11:22] <beta> Is it possible to load a windows partition on the physical drive through vmware or similar tool?
[11:22] <leladia> Seveas: isn't there some other way?
[11:22] <Creeture> leladia: try grep -e"string1" -e"string2" to include both then. Otherwise, don't use grep. Quitcherbitchin and take a suggestion.
[11:22] <Russel> can somebody post the "output" of visudo on a normal ubuntu installation?
[11:22] <AutoMatriX> hi folks ... plse hel me ... my RT73 USB wifi key freezes the complete system, at random ..
[11:22] <Seveas> beta, you can simply mount it...
[11:22] <Seveas> !mount | beta
[11:22] <ubotu> beta: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:23] <Seveas> !ntfs | beta
[11:23] <ubotu> beta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:23] <beta> Steveas, I don't want to mount the partition (i've already done this) i want to actually run a virtual windows
[11:23] <Seveas> beta, ah ok
[11:23] <jrib> chris__: ignore what everyone says and concentrate on what people say to you
[11:23] <Seveas> beta, vmware has a tool to convert a windows install into a vm. Searching on the vmware website should help you find it
[11:23] <leladia> guys pls don't take any offence if i am refusing to do it ur way
[11:23] <beta> Steveas, alright I will try that. Thanks.
[11:24] <Seveas> Russel, do you mean the default sudoers file?
[11:24] <Lhademmor> Seveas, who's responsible /// Who should I poke to?
[11:24] <leladia> i am not insulting ur intelligence
[11:24] <tdizzy> !aptoncd
[11:24] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[11:24] <Creeture> leladia: We're not offended, but we've exhausted the options. Try one of 'em.
[11:24] <Seveas> Lhademmor, matthew nuzum (newz2000 on freenode)
[11:24] <tdizzy> i cant install APTonCD, using the source, the deb package, or Synaptic
[11:24] <chris__> ok  well i guess ill just go to random channels
[11:24] <Seveas> !ur is <alias> u
[11:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[11:25] <Seveas> !4 is <alias> u
[11:25] <Russel> Seveas: have it now, but thx
[11:25] <Creeture> She canna take much more Cappin, there's no more switches!
[11:25] <Seveas> Russel, ok :)
[11:25] <Lhademmor> !ur
[11:25] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:25] <leladia>  Creeture: from man there is the -E option and i tried using it with -v... is that not possible
[11:25] <Lhademmor> !god
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:26] <Absolute0> anyone knows how to turn off all files and enable just one in "rtorrent" instead of doing one at a time for hours?
[11:26] <Absolute0> :)
[11:26] <Creeture> leladia: It's absolutely possible. -E: "egrep is the same as grep -E"
[11:26] <Creeture> leladia: Do you know regular expressions?
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> who can help me please
[11:27] <leladia>  Creeture: not too well
[11:27] <erUSUL> !ask | b_wolf_007
[11:27] <ubotu> b_wolf_007: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:27] <leladia> Creeture: i just starting using unix
[11:27] <Creeture> leladia: What *EXACTLY* do you want to do?
[11:27] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, nobody unless you ask an actual question :)
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> no root file is defined
[11:27] <Davy_Jones> what's the name of the program that launches when you connect a digital camera?
[11:27] <chris__> im having visualization troubles and ide like to increase my resolution i cannot follow this channel so if u can help me please pm me
[11:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL
[11:27] <La_PaRCa> Is there a page in the wiki that documents how specs should be developed and submitted?
[11:28] <soundray> Davy_Jones: f-spot
[11:28] <b_wolf_007> can i mount ubuntu 7.10 in fat 32
[11:28] <jrib> !fixres >  (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:28] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, no
[11:28] <jrib> !fixres > chris__ (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:28] <Davy_Jones> soundray: doesn't seem like it..
[11:28] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: do you mean install using fat32 filesystem?
[11:28] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL yes
[11:28] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, you need to create separate partitions for Ubuntu. if you don't know what you're doing: use the 'guided partition, resize partitions and use free space' option in the installer
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !exaile
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !music
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <soundray> Davy_Jones: configure via System-Preferences-Removable drives and media
[11:29] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: or you are asking if you can access fat32 partitions from ubuntu 7.04?
[11:29] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, and Ubuntu win't install on fat32
[11:29] <Lhademmor> !audioplayers
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audioplayers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <chris__> this is my first couple of hours on here im not familiar with the shell
[11:29] <leladia> Creeture: grep -v 'sleep wake' file1 (i want it to recognize sleep and wake as two separate strings)
[11:30] <Gin> hi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?
[11:30] <fliegenderfrosch> Davy_Jones: is it gthump that you're looking for?
[11:30] <jrib> Davy_Jones: check system -> prefs -> removable drives and media
[11:30] <Davy_Jones> soundray: that was helpful.. thanks
[11:30] <Creeture> leladia: grep -v -e"sleep" -e"wake" file1
[11:30] <b_wolf_007> i created 3partitions
[11:30] <Lhademmor> sry
[11:30] <dstadulis> anyone know a quick terminal way to check what bitrate mp3's are??
[11:30] <Creeture> leladia: or grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file1
[11:30] <Creeture> make that a little -v
[11:30] <leladia>  Creeture: let me try that and see
[11:30] <soundray> dstadulis: try 'file file.mp3'
[11:30] <erUSUL> dstadulis: file file.mp3
[11:30] <b_wolf_007> I want to mount Ubuntu in fat 32, that can access and from windows
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, impossible.
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, use ext3 and install the ext2 filesystem driver for windows
[11:31] <soundray> b_wolf_007: stick with ext3. You can install ext2fsd in Windows to access ubuntu partitions.
[11:31] <b_wolf_007> can I let an extra partition to save data from ubuntu that can access from window
[11:31] <b_wolf_007> Seveas, thanks
[11:31] <jrib> !ext3 > b_wolf_007 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:31] <Seveas> b_wolf_007, sure, that's also an option
[11:32] <Gin> hi, my sound card stopped working. how do I reconfigure my soundcard?
[11:32] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: you can access ntfs part from linux (even read/writte with ntfs-3g)
[11:32] <soundray> b_wolf_007: yes, you can have a dedicated shared storage partition. I still suggest you make it ext3, because it is a much better filesystem.
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> ok thanks
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> I will try with ext3
[11:32] <Lhademmor> LjL, Seveas, can someone teach ubotu that exaile is part of !players
[11:32] <b_wolf_007> and install those drivers
[11:32] <soundray> !sound > Gin, please read the private message from ubotu
[11:32] <dstadulis> erUSUL: No luck o@#$%&*.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding
[11:33] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: also as Seveas pointed out there is a ext2 driver for windows. So copying files around shouldn't be a problem
[11:33] <Creeture> Hey, somebody smack the core developers for me. apti<tab> used to only complete to aptitude. Who introduced aptitude-create-state-bundle and aptitude-run-state-bundle to screw that up for me?
[11:33] <alena> pls Who know when stopped support for ubuntu 6.10
[11:33] <leladia> Creeture:  grep -E -V "sleep|wake" file1 (i am told illegal use of --E)
[11:33] <Seveas> alena, it will stop in april 2008
[11:33] <soundray> dstadulis: install mp3info
[11:33] <flush> anyone ever got the trick to read magnetic stripe through the mic input of the sound card to work ?
[11:33] <Creeture> leladia: it's -v not -V
[11:33] <LjL> Lhademmor: done
[11:33] <dstadulis> soundray: thanks
[11:33] <leladia> Creeture: i used -v
[11:33] <Lhademmor> LjL, thanks
[11:33] <Lhademmor> !exaile
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exaile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Lhademmor> LjL, ? :P
[11:34] <LjL> Lhademmor: it's in !players.
[11:34] <Lhademmor> d'oh
[11:34] <Lhademmor> !players
[11:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[11:34] <alena> Seveas thx, i must find any distribution
[11:34] <LjL> we don't generally have factoids for *single* packages, unless there are special instructions needed for them.
[11:34] <Creeture> leladia: It'll work, I promise.
[11:34] <LjL> !info exaile | Lhademmor, for information on a single package
[11:34] <ubotu> lhademmor, for information on a single package: exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[11:35] <Lhademmor> LjL, then exaile <alias> players ?
[11:35] <nomin> !alternate
[11:35] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:35] <leladia>  Creeture: am sure u didn't get my last msg, what i mean is that i did not use -V i used -v and it gave me that message
[11:35] <LjL> Lhademmor: i've done that now, but i'm not sure it's really useless to just get a list of players when one types !exaile
[11:36] <LjL> s/useless/useful/
[11:36] <Seveas> leladia, grep -v 'sleep\|wake' bla.log
[11:36] <Lhademmor> LjL, yah, maybe you're right
[11:36] <Lhademmor> !rhythmbox
[11:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[11:36] <Lhademmor> see?
[11:36] <LjL> Lhademmor: yeah, i'm still not sure it's useful though. it won't hurt either i suppose.
[11:37] <jodih2> hi guys
[11:37] <Baumer> Does anyone have Wireless working on ubuntu with the Broadcom 1390 chipset?
[11:37] <leladia> Seveas: let me also try that and see
[11:37] <peter_> can someone guide me aas to how to use freepops with thunderbird?....i'd like to retrieve my mail from hotmail
[11:37] <Baumer> ohhh just found a faq on it
[11:37] <Baumer> hope it works
[11:38] <jodih2> just installed ubuntu  for the first time
[11:38] <jodih2> and have a stupid question
[11:38] <soundray> jodih2: congrats
[11:38] <__mikem> !ask
[11:38] <Creeture> peter_: I don't know if it still exists, but there used to be a "gotmail" that did that very well.
[11:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:38] <soundray> jodih2: on installing, not on the stupid question.
[11:38] <Seveas> soundray, heh ;)
[11:38] <peter_> i have got mail but i have problems getting it to install
[11:38] <jtkiefer> what's the command to create a link in the console to an application, for example so I can type in BitchX and have it open /usr/bin/bitchx
[11:38] <Creeture> peter_: What problems?
[11:38] <jodih2> i used vi to edit the ip address and i dont know how to save the changes
[11:39] <peter_> it tries to remove a bunch of stuff on installation
[11:39] <dstadulis> soundray: Got it working so I can get the info I need, thanks veyr much
[11:39] <peter_> then it just fails
[11:39] <soundray> dstadulis: well done
[11:39] <usr13> jodih2, :wq
[11:39] <__mikem> I didn't know you can use vi to edit an ip address
[11:39] <Seveas> jodih2, hit ESC and then ZZ
[11:39] <jodih2> thanks
[11:39] <Creeture> jtkiefer: man bash, look at aliases. Something like alias BitchX='/usr/bin/bitchx' will work.
[11:40] <kitche> __mikem: most likely he editted the interface file :)
[11:40] <juro> hi, I am running a 2.6.15-23-server kernel (Dapper) on a server I am administrating. Now I need to upgrade to a 2.6.20 (at least) - how do I go about this?
[11:40] <jtkiefer> Creeture, ok, thanks
[11:40] <jodih2> edited the interface file as it needed a static
[11:40] <soundray> kitche: or /etc/hosts ?
[11:40] <Seveas> juro, you upgrade to feisty or gutsy
[11:40] <Creeture> peter_: Is your system up-to-date with packages? I just did an aptitude install gotmail and it installed.
[11:40] <peter_> yea as far as i can tell
[11:41] <peter_> it begins the install then tells me it cant remove a certain file
[11:41] <soundray> Seveas: via edgy, you might add...
[11:41] <Creeture> peter_: If you do aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade && aptitude -f install it's all clean?
[11:41] <jodih2> thanks u guys are a great help to a newcomer
[11:41] <juro> seveas, this is a production machine running as a file and a imap server. it is located in Austria, I am in Cape Town - I really don't think I should upgrade that much ....
[11:41] <erUSUL> juro: easiest way? get the linux-image deb of feisty for your hardware (server version 64 bits whatever) and install it on dapper.
[11:41] <Creeture> juro: You're not chicken are you? ;)
[11:41] <Seveas> juro, then you need to find a 2.6.20 kernel that works on dapper. You might have luck with the kernel packages from feisty but I very much doubt it
[11:42] <juro> creeture, :)
[11:42] <juro> seveas, so there is no *easy* way?
[11:42] <leladia> Seveas: grep -v 'sleep\|wake' bla.log (i tried it but it is not also filtering out wake. it filters sleep)
[11:42] <soundray> juro: of all procedures available to you, upgrading is probably the best-tested.
[11:43] <peter_> i ran the command but i'm not too sure what i'm looking at
[11:43] <jtkiefer> Creeture, works like a charm, thanks
[11:43] <soundray> peter_: are you trying to install an Ubuntu package, or third-party software?
[11:44] <armando> ubuntu espao
[11:44] <erUSUL> !es | armando
[11:44] <ubotu> armando: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:44] <juro> soundray, I am trying to write to an external ntfs harddrive (= backup) and installed ntfs-3g, that tells me that I have a "deficient kernel version", therefore I should upgrade to "2.6.20" ....
[11:44] <peter_> i'm trying to install gotmail.....or make freepops work with thuunderbird
[11:45] <Creeture> Jtkiefer: Put the alias command in your .bashrc or create a .bash_aliases and uncomment that in your .bashrc to make it persist.
[11:45] <erUSUL> juro: backing up to a ntfs drive does not sound to me ike a good idea but maybe i'm biased ;)
[11:45] <juro> erUSUL, as good as any other backup to an external harddrive.
[11:45] <soundray> erUSUL: should be okay, backing up to a tar file or so
[11:45] <pgavin> anyone have any idea why I don't have any menus in ubuntustudio?
[11:45] <juro> erSUL, and the backup should be readable from a standard windows machine ...
[11:46] <Jtkiefer> Creeture, would .bashrc be in my home directory?
[11:46] <soundray> juro: fat32...
[11:46] <Seveas> Jtkiefer, yes
[11:46] <Creeture> Jtkiefer: Yep.
[11:46] <pgavin> I mean, my application menu is empty :/
[11:46] <Jtkiefer> what everyone says is true, ubuntu is fun and is very powerful but it's a pain in the ass to learn
[11:46] <juro> soundray, I tried that -> it cannot keep the access rights on file level
[11:46] <soundray> Jtkiefer: you can extend that statement to computers in general.
[11:47] <soundray> juro: avoid that pitfall by backing up to a tarfile or three
[11:47] <erUSUL> juro: that's what i was worried about... the idea of a windows OS being in charge of my backup XD
[11:47] <Jtkiefer> soundray, oops, I didn't mean Ubuntu I meant *nix, ubuntu is actually easier than most *nix
[11:47] <juro> soundray, not necessary. the learning curve with a windows machine is way shorter than linux
[11:47] <juro> erUSUL, not in charge. only readable by it.
[11:47] <Creeture> Jtkiefer: You think Ubuntu is a pain in the ass? You should try one of the unfriendly distributions. Try learning Solaris or AIX or try starting an install of Slackware from 1993.
[11:48] <soundray> juro: not if you start from scratch, ie. a newbie with no computer exposure at all.
[11:48] <Auckla> Jtkiefer, Its not so bad.
[11:48] <Jtkiefer> soundray, and to a certain extent your right but macs for example are very new user friendly (waits for the boo's and hisses to subside) so to a certain extent is windows if you don't try anything crazy
[11:48] <Auckla> Creeture, Absolutely!
[11:48] <angasule> what exactly is the update policy for programs in a stable ubuntu branch? for example, a program has a bug that causes a crash and has been fixed upstream, any chance we'll benefit from it or we have to wait till gutsy?
[11:48] <Jtkiefer> Creeture, oh I've tried freebsd, that was a pain
[11:48] <juro> soundray, even then.
[11:48] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me with my compiz fusion?
[11:48] <Jtkiefer> creeture, I know there's worse too, I'm just not about to try them
[11:48] <peter_> does anyone use gotmail or freepops?
[11:48] <Creeture> Jtkiefer: Yep. There's some real UNIX for you. No pretty buttons, nobody to hold your hand.
[11:48] <soundray> Jtkiefer: OS 9 was newbie friendly. Mac OS X is besotten with idiosyncracies
[11:48] <Auckla> Jtkiefer, FreeBSD is my OS of choice. :) At least for server side aplicatoins and routers. :)
[11:48] <Creeture> peter_: Did you get gotmail to install?
[11:49] <peter_> nope
[11:49] <soundray> juro: not in my experience.
[11:49] <peter_> i got freepops to install though
[11:49] <Creeture> peter_: What's your exact error?
[11:49] <peter_> one sec
[11:49] <erUSUL> juro: i'm only taking the oportunity to maock up windows a little do not take me very seriusly ;). As soundray says just backup to .tar* files or cpio archives to preserve permisions etc
[11:49] <soundray> juro: I got my technophobe dad to reacquaint himself with computers via Ubuntu, when he had given up on Windows.
[11:49] <DM|> Can everyone look at this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39407/ , maybe someone knows the solution
[11:49] <juro> soundray, I am talking about a user (like a grand mother that wants to use the internet)
[11:49] <Jtkiefer> one word, OS/2
[11:50] <peter_> error ...cannot install libnet-perl
[11:50] <juro> soundray, and he had (and wanted) to learn a lot from scratch - not many users want that
[11:50] <soundray> juro: I am talking about someone who needs to learn even the most basic metaphors (Desktop? What? A vertical desktop?)
[11:50] <Creeture> peter_: What's the reason?
[11:51] <riddlebox> any idea how to fix an error from evolution saying summary and folder mismatch even after sync?
[11:51] <usr13> peter_, sudo apt-get install -f libnet-perl
[11:51] <keir> hello, i was wondering how to run  a program automatically after logging in with GDM to openbox
[11:51] <mcphail> 2
[11:51] <soundray> juro: no, he didn't want anything at all, except be able to read Wikipedia and write letters. It's like I managed to tear a tiny hole in a big curtain to make him peep through.
[11:51] <peter_> ok but when i try to install that file it tries to remove a bunch of other apps
[11:51] <usr13> apt-get -f install libnet-perl
[11:52] <mtx1> anyone know what would cause terminal to hang up when i open it the window opens but it doesnt give me a $ for about 2-3 minutes its like its frozen. i just restored from a backup and restarted and its doing that now?? i have tried to reinstall it but did not fix the problem
[11:52] <Creeture> peter_: What does it try to uninstall? Something on your machine is broken.
[11:52] <juro> soundray, given. then again, not everyone has an experienced linux user as a son ... to guide them through the learning process.
[11:53] <kitche> juro: same can be said for windows :)
[11:53] <Auckla> juro, Ubuntu to me is probably the easiest flavor of linux to get somebody into. ":)
[11:53] <soundray> juro: I didn't guide him at all. I installed it with autologin and left it up to him.
[11:53] <Auckla> I started with SlakWare 4.0 When I was in like the 6th grade. :P
[11:53] <soundray> juro: he does ring me or my brother occasionally when he gets stuck.
[11:53] <Seveas> Ubuntu is way easier to learn than windows. Most people forget they actually have years of windows experience before they say Ubuntu is hard...
[11:53] <soundray> juro: fortunately, we can ssh in and have a look around...
[11:54] <juro> true, but there are more windows users than linux users. and yes, ubuntu goes a long way (I had to give it up though, as a lot of necessary programs don't work on Ubuntu - yet)
[11:54] <peter_> when i run apt-get -f install libnet-perl it says that i have a number of unmet dependencies
[11:54] <mtx1> i wish i would have started linux about 10 years ago when i first got into computers...instead i WASTED all my time with winblows
[11:54] <soundray> Seveas: well spoken
[11:54] <usr13> Windows is harder than Linux.
[11:54] <Creeture> peter_: Are you sure it's not trying to install them instead of uninstall?
[11:54] <mtx1> juro: use virtual box for you winblows stuff
[11:54] <SpiffyBalak> hey, does anyone know how to stop xine from autoplaying inserted CDs? I'm in Xfce.
[11:54] <SpiderPig> usr13 windows and linux are two different things
[11:55] <soundray> juro: it's a different world. I can't switch back to Windows now, because a lot of "necessary" programs aren't available there or cost money.
[11:55] <Auckla> Blah get yourself a cheap nother computer. And you can put any flavor of *nix on it. And play with it till you break it, then play with it again.
[11:55] <usr13> SpiderPig, How so?
[11:55] <SpiderPig> windows has its charm in that its a gigantic nsa backdoor
[11:55] <Seveas> SpiderPig, :)
[11:55] <pmo_> linux been mostly a developper toy from my point of view, i don't know if it will ever change, but this has lasted long
[11:55] <SpiderPig> ;)
[11:55] <usr13> Windows and Linux (as we refer to them are computer operating systems.
[11:55] <juro> mtx1, that is hard when you are doing extensive photo retouching with photoshop (and no, gimp is not an alternative) or Lightroom
[11:55] <peter_> well in synaptic it says packages to be removed ....and alltray is one of them .,...which is installed annd works fine
[11:55] <josiah> k9copy isnt copying this movie for some reason. It gets stuck on authorizing. Is there another application I can use?
[11:55] <Seveas> SpiderPig, I'm very afraid that that actually may be true :/
[11:55] <SpiderPig> usr13 i reffere to windows as toilet paper sir. thank you very much.
[11:56] <Seveas> anyway, let's get back to ubuntu support instead of ubuntu-vs-windows discussions
[11:56] <SpiderPig> seveas it is true. the same is true with lotus and google products. these firms know so much about private people you cannot believe it.
[11:56] <mtx1> ahh i c yea if you use photoshop stay away from the virutal box =)
[11:56] <Seveas> before some people get religious about it
[11:56] <soundray> I like windows. My house would be darker without them. -- How did we manage to go so far offtopic...
[11:56] <Auckla> soundray, ROFL.
[11:56] <usr13> SpiderPig, haha... I like the comparison but that is a bit harsh.
[11:57] <juro> seveas, true - not supporting w-vs-l, just writing out of personal expreience
[11:57] <SpiderPig> ill end there. i told what i know. think whatever you wish
[11:57] <usr13> But either way you slice it, Linux is easier.  It's easier to install, easier to use, easier to maintain.
[11:57] <DM|> Can everyone look at this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39407/ , maybe someone knows the solution
[11:57] <josiah> would DVD::Rip be what I am looking for?
[11:57] <SpiderPig> usr13 linux is open and free. perfect for the future.
[11:57] <Creeture> peter_: What're you running? Feisty?
[11:57] <peter_> yup
[11:57] <SlimeyPete> josiah: it'll rip a DVD to an AVI
[11:58] <peter_> it tries to remove packages like acidrip and alien
[11:58] <soundray> josiah: k9copy is among the best you will get. If it gets stuck, the copy protection works.
[11:58] <usr13> The windows user has to deal with anti-virus software and anti-spiware and lots of other issues that Linux users don't have to bother with.  Linux is a lot easier.
[11:58] <Seveas> DM|, looks like you're missing some libraries... is your system up-to-date and is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[11:58] <josiah> SlimeyPete: I want to make it into an iso so that it get dvdquality and can burn onto a dvd-r
[11:58] <Seveas> !offtopic | usr13
[11:58] <ubotu> usr13: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:58] <pmo_> but i don't much about ubuntu.. i had some experiences with debian, suse, slackware, yygdrasil.. never tried gentoo.. while i tend to be attracted by bsd those days.. i like the makefile spirit
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> josiah: I don't think dvd::rip does that
[11:58] <SpiderPig> usr13 but in linux you have to deal with firewalls and rootkits
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> it didn't last time I used it, but that was a couple of years ago
[11:58] <josiah> SlimeyPete: ok thank you.
[11:59] <SpiderPig> usr13 its not like you dont need to use your brain and take protection with linux
[11:59] <recon> How do you type ASCII character SOH? (octal 001, hex 0x1)
[11:59] <Sorcererbob> one thing I'm concerned about is that as linux becomes more popular, it will begin to suffer from small poppy syndrome, and viruses etc will start to target it
[11:59] <josiah> soundray: grrr
[11:59] <DM|> seveas yep all up to date
[11:59] <eric> DOH!!! I accidentally booted up ubuntu with vmplayer whilst having the same ubuntu booted as the host -.-
[11:59] <DM|> seveas also have ubuntu-desktop installed
[11:59] <SpiderPig> usr13 install 'rkhunter' rootkithunter very good software.
[11:59] <eric> that screwed everything up =\
[11:59] <Seveas> DM|, could you pastebin your sources.list?
[11:59] <[DMC] > how do I tell the system to check the group file? I added myself to a group but it is not seeing it.
[11:59] <Seveas> eric, heh, that sounds like a bad idea :)
[11:59] <usr13> Sorcererbob, How do you figure?
[12:00] <jrib> [DMC] : log in again
[12:00] <DM|> seveas its gutsy, but no one in ubuntu+1 is having the same problem, nor is there anything online.
[12:00] <DM|> seveas one sec
[12:00] <DM|> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <[DMC] > I have to restart X just to do this?
[12:00] <Seveas> usr13, linux isn't inherently immune against attacks. Rootkits and privilige escalation bugs still exist...
[12:00] <eric> Seveas, after being through the ubuntu system recovery thing twice... finding things strangely broken (some file corruption at that)
[12:00] <soundray> [DMC] : it works after the next login. If you can't log out, do a 'ssh localhost'
[12:00] <Gin> hi
[12:00] <eric> Seveas, I am really worried that I did permanent damage
[12:00] <Sorcererbob> usr13: the only reason microsoft operating systems are targetted are because they're popular. If they weren't, then there would be no point targeting them. So if Linux gets more popular than MS, it seems likely that viruses and w hatnot should start targetting linux
[12:00] <SpiderPig> seveas as i said
[12:00] <Gin> how do you reload the sound driver?
[12:00] <DM|> seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39410/
[12:00] <SpiffyBalak> virus immunity could attract lots of the paranoid technophobes
[12:00] <usr13> Anyway, as the bot said, this philosophy discussion is OT
[12:00] <SpiderPig> seveas hello can you see me or am i banned?
[12:01] <Seveas> SpiderPig, I can see you but I'm helping people...
[12:01] <x-fak> hi
[12:01] <SpiderPig> seveas oh :)
[12:01] <Shapeshifter> offtopic: Does anyone know what tone that is at the beginning of crank? A ringtone or something ^^
[12:01] <SpiderPig> seveas install rkhunter very good for removal of rootkits
[12:01] <x-fak> how do i check my ubuntu version, uname -a dont tell me
[12:01] <SpiderPig> i installed it today
[12:01] <timstokman> hi, i have no /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf in my installation of gutsy gibbon beta installation, has it changed location?
[12:01] <jrib> !offtopic | Shapeshifter
[12:01] <ubotu> Shapeshifter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:01] <Seveas> x-fak, lsb_release -a
[12:01] <Shapeshifter> k thx
[12:01] <VWJ1bnR1> What happened to the GDM?  When I installed KDE, KDM is lost!
[12:01] <kitche> SpiderPig: it's also good for false postives sometimes also
[12:01] <x-fak> ty Seveas
[12:02] <VWJ1bnR1> Sorry... GDM is lost!
[12:02] <SpiderPig> kitche most bugs ahve been fixed though, no?
[12:02] <kitche> VWJ1bnR1: kdm takes over when you install kde
[12:02] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' to change back
[12:02] <Gin> !sound
[12:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:02] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: That didn't work.
[12:02] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: can you elaborate
[12:02] <x-fak> i have dapper 6.06 is it worthy to install last version ?
[12:02] <Creeture> peter_: Where are you now? Anything installed yet?
[12:03] <usr13> x-fak, Yes
[12:03] <Creeture> x-fak: What do you use it for?
[12:03] <eric> Seveas, the damage was all the drivers messing up, which was corrected via the system recovery, and many gnome config files going awry
[12:03] <VWJ1bnR1> Well, I got the error message saying:
[12:03] <VWJ1bnR1> invoce-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[12:03] <Seveas> eric, a good idea is to rinstall all packages, handy oneliner: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[12:03] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: That wouldn't be so bad, except that I can't login or logout to the GUI login manager.
[12:03] <usr13> x-fak, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html
[12:03] <eric> Seveas, I made sure to comment out the 10 second timelimit selection in grub -.-
[12:03] <peter_> nope i have the part about it wanting to remove a bunch of packages open.....thats where i'm stuck right now
[12:04] <eric> Seveas, won't that take a long time? :o
[12:04] <Gin>  sudo rmmod snd_ca0106
[12:04] <Gin> ERROR: Module snd_ca0106 is in use
[12:04] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: where are you now -- logged in on a virtual console?
[12:04] <x-fak> Creeture> i use it as desktop
[12:04] <Seveas> eric, it will