[01:13] <mdz> Mithrandir: do you have a working build you could provide to davidm to install his Q1 Ultra?
[01:14] <Mithrandir> mdz: not offhand, but I could whip up one
[01:15] <mdz> Mithrandir: are any of the ones published on cdimage usable?
[01:16] <Mithrandir> I don't think so, no.
[01:40] <mdz> agoliveira: how about you?  do you have a known good image on hand?
[01:41] <agoliveira> mdz: Sorry, no. I don't keep old images here and the last one wasn't booting right on the Q1.
[01:56] <amitk> mdz: with the changes to image creator, everybody was required to delete old projects. So, no images.
[01:57] <Mithrandir> amitk: that change has not hit gutsy, fwif
[01:57] <Mithrandir> -f+w
[02:01] <amitk> Mithrandir: the projects didn't become unusable due to change in platform-name?
[02:02] <Mithrandir> the platform name hasn't changed in gutsy; I haven't uploaded the new mic from moblin.org
[02:02] <Mithrandir> (last time I checked, it didn't have any functionality we wanted)
[02:05] <amitk> Mithrandir: aah, I use mic from git.
[02:05] <Mithrandir> that'd explain it.
[02:06] <amitk> Mithrandir: do you have a working kernel config for mccaslin (samsung)? I want to be sure I don't miss out any DRI or other options
[02:07] <Mithrandir> amitk: not a working lpia one, no.  It's traditionally used the -generic kernel, iirc.
[02:09] <amitk> Mithrandir: i386-ume actually which was stripped down version of i386-generic. Handcrafting .config files into the build system is not fun....
[02:10] <Mithrandir> amitk: ugh.
[02:20] <mjg59> mccaslin needs lum and lrm as well
[02:20] <mjg59> I think they're missing at the moment?
[02:20] <amitk> mjg59: have a working kernel config handy?
[02:21] <mjg59> amitk: Nope
[02:21] <mjg59> But the machine's capable enough that the -generic from i386 is fine
[02:21] <mjg59> Overkill, but fine :)
[02:21] <amitk> mjg59: those are missing... I have added lum, not done lrm yet
[02:21] <mjg59> Thanks
[02:23] <mjg59> Is the application menu actually working for anyone at the moment?
[02:23] <mjg59> Mine just lists "Extras" and then has 5 entries
[02:24] <Mithrandir> so does mine
[02:33] <agoliveira> Ditto (last working image)
[02:33] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Is Loic going to work on UME as well?
[02:33] <Mithrandir> yes, part-time.
[02:34] <Mithrandir> (part-time on desktop tasks)
[02:35] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Hmmm... have to ask Matt to update me on that. Suddenly lot's of people showing up :)
[02:37] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: it's been on the calendar for a while, but yeah, I'm sure you'll get an update on it later today.
[02:39] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: I was aware of the changes, of course, I meant about who's going to do exactly what now nad, of course, a bit of awe with all the people showing up at once :)
[02:43] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: oh, the who's going-to-do-what is still slightly up in the air, but we're trying to work it out as people come in.
[02:45] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: how's the tools for the theme handling going?  AIUI, the new theme is blocked on that?
[02:46] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Yes, I sent a test for Ken but didn't work well. I'm fixing it and will send another test later today.
[02:46] <Mithrandir> sounds good.
[03:25] <agoliveira> Mithrandir: Is anyone currently working on cleaninng openoffice's interface for UME?
[03:25] <Mithrandir> agoliveira: not that I know of, no.
[03:32] <mjg59> Doing so would be... interesting
[03:35] <agoliveira> mjg59: You do have som quite weird concept for "interesting". I was thinking more in the lines of a 7th circle of hell :)
[04:28] <amitk> Mithrandir: what is the quickest way to replace the kernel in the .img file from mic?
[04:38] <agoliveira> Mithrandir, amitk: Have any of you tried to run openoffice on crownbeach? I would like to know how long it takes to start.
[04:39] <StevenK> agoliveira: Do you want the answer in minutes, or hours? :-P
[04:39] <agoliveira> StevenK: eons is fine :)
[04:39] <StevenK> :-D
[04:42] <amitk> agoliveira: I am not that crazy yet....
[04:43] <amitk> Mithrandir, mjg59, agoliveira: care to test the lpiacompat .debs on your samsungs?  Find them at http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/
[04:43] <agoliveira> amitk: The boss asked for a test and as you and Tollef are the ones with crownbeaches, thew honors are all yours :)
[04:44] <amitk> agoliveira: can't do it today, got a new flavour to get working... tomorrow perhaps.
[04:44] <agoliveira> amitk: Sure.
[04:44] <agoliveira> 2X
[05:02] <mjg59> amitk: Seems ok
[05:02] <mjg59> Except my /bin has vanished for some reason
[05:02] <mjg59> But I can't see how that could be the kernel's fault, so...
[05:03] <StevenK> agoliveira: For future reference, I'll be connected all of the time, just /away'd when I'm sleeping, drunk, dead, etc ...
[05:03] <amitk> mjg59: thanks.
[05:04] <mjg59> I'll reinstall properly when there's an image with that in
[05:04] <mjg59> Thanks!
[05:04] <agoliveira> StevenK: Cool. Just remind to use /ressurect when you return... from dead :)
[05:04] <StevenK> No, that's what Soulstones are for. :-P
[05:08] <mdz> does anyone have a kernel .deb with the fixes from ubuntu git? amitk?
[05:08] <amitk> mdz: ^^^^
[05:12] <agoliveira> amitk: The kernel seems to be fine here.
[05:12] <amitk> agoliveira: thanks
[05:30] <amitk> Mithrandir, mjg59: do we care about apparmour security on lpia? Or can it disable the module?
[05:36] <amitk> Mithrandir: mjg59, agoliveira_lunch: mdz: LUM also available there now.. give it a spin
[05:36] <mdz> amitk: oh, thanks
[05:37] <mdz> amitk: do you have an LRM as well?
[05:38] <amitk> mdz: working on it
[05:42] <mdz> amitk: the console problem is still there; does this kernel have the vm86 fix?
[05:42] <mjg59> mdz: Hm. Worked for me.
[05:42] <mdz> oh, I've still booted the old kernel
[05:43] <mdz> what's the trick?
[05:43] <mjg59> mdz: Are you sure you booted into the new kernel? Unless you mount /dev/sda1 as /boot, it won't go anywhere grub looks at
[05:43] <mdz> thanks
[05:43] <mdz> (is there a bug filed about that?)
[05:43] <mjg59> And then you need to hack menu.lst by hand and replace root=whatever with boot=disk
[05:47] <mdz> mjg59: works, thanks
[05:52] <mdz> agoliveira_lunch: midbrowser in the current build still has drop-down menus
[05:52] <mdz> oh, they vanish after a few seconsd
[05:52] <mdz> xterm doesn't launch for some reason
[05:54] <Mithrandir> amitk: apparmor> not important at this point at least.
[05:54] <amitk> Mithrandir: removed :)
[06:12] <agoliveira> mdz: You had menus on MID that vanished? Weird...
[09:14] <amitk> mjg59: you only need madwifi in LRM, right? no ipw3945?
[09:15] <mjg59> amitk: Suspect it depends whether we're just targetting the Q1, or whether there's any desire to potentially support other UMPCs at some stage
[09:15] <mjg59> I only need madwifi, though
[09:16] <amitk> I haven't heard of anything containing ipw yet. I'll disable it for now.
[09:45] <amitk> mjg59, agoliveira, mdz, Mithrandir: Please help yourselves to lpiacompat and lpia kernel, LUM and LRM packages from people.ubuntu.com/~amitk
[09:45] <mjg59> amitk: Thanks!
[09:45] <mjg59> That'll be in the next upload?
[09:46] <amitk> mjg59: yes. Let me know how it works for you.
[09:46] <mjg59> Excellent. Thanks very much!
[09:47] <agoliveira> amitk: Maybe you should post on the UME ML so the Intel people can test as well.
[09:47] <amitk> agoliveira: hmm... good idea
[11:52] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: ?
[11:53] <amitk> HappyCamp_ubuntu: hi
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> What did your email mean for LPIA?  lpiacompat?
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Is that just the kernel?
[11:53] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> I'm confused.
[11:53] <amitk> yes... didn't i say the keyword "kernel" there?
[11:54] <amitk> :)
[11:54] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: Not that I noticed.
[11:54] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> So do  I need to change the FSET in Moblin Image Creator?
[11:55] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Should I install this special kernel for a McCaslin system?
[11:55] <amitk> For mccaslin yes... you should be using the lpiacompat kernels for samsungs now. But you can wait until tomorrow
[11:56] <amitk> It will fix the blinking screen, inability to get to console, etc.
[11:56] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Sweet :)  ToddBrandt read what has been said here.  
[11:57] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: we have been seeing that funkyness.  It was strange.  If I booted my LiveUSB image from the USB hub then it worked. amitk 
[11:57] <robr> amitk: so what's causing the issue with the blinking screen any ways?
[11:57] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> But plugged directly into the system it failed amitk 
[11:57] <ToddBrandt> amitk: ahhh, so my samsung isn't crazy
[11:58] <robr> rustyl: see what amitk has to say about the lpiacompat kernel ;-)
[11:58] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: So question.  What will be the name of the package that I need to install?  kernel-lpiacompat ?
[11:59] <rustyl> what do i install?
[11:59] <amitk> ooooh... lots of intel people ganging up :-p
[11:59] <amitk> hold on
[12:00] <amitk> From http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/  : linux-image-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.40_lpia.deb, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22.4-13.5_lpia.deb, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.33_lpia.deb  
[12:00] <amitk> that should even get wireless on the samsungs working
[12:00] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> amitk: how long until that hits ports.ubuntu.com ?
[12:01] <amitk> The kernel upload is being worked on today (US time). So I guess it will hit ports tomorrow. I will keep you posted.
[12:01] <HappyCamp_ubuntu> Thanks!  I appreciate it.
[12:04] <rustyl> ok, downloading
[12:31] <rustyl> amitk, i just tried the lpiacompat deps
[12:31] <rustyl> amitk, but the boot fails to mount the squashfs image
[12:33] <mjg59> rustyl: Make sure it's passing boot=disk rather than root=foo
[12:33] <rustyl> let me see what's happening
[12:34] <rustyl> looks like the squashfs module is not loaded
[12:35] <mjg59> Hm. They work fine for me.
[12:35] <mjg59> (Q1)
[12:35] <mjg59> Oh - did you install linux-ubuntu-modules as well?
[12:35] <mjg59> Otherwise you won't get squashfs
[12:35] <rustyl> mjg59, yes
[12:35] <rustyl> the module is in the resulting filesystem
[12:35] <mjg59> Odd.
[12:36] <rustyl> but it's not being added to the initial ram disk
[12:36] <rustyl> let me see if somebody did something evil to the image creation step
[12:51] <rustyl> FYI for anyone that cares... we don't seem to pick up any of the modules in /lib/modules/*/ubuntu (where by 'pickup' i mean the initramfs tools are not copying the files into the initial ramdisk)