=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mobile.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Topic for #ubuntu-mobile: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ === Topic (#ubuntu-mobile): set by dholbach at Tue Sep 25 18:08:39 2007 === bain [n=bain@hawk.tbm.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Namer_Katan32 [i=qa@gateway/tor/x-0d347e828845b58f] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable212.211-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === davidm [n=davidm@pool-71-170-59-181.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bain [n=bain@hawk.tbm.co.za] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === matt_c [n=mcroydon@137.147.45.66.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.47.77.206.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [01:13] Mithrandir: do you have a working build you could provide to davidm to install his Q1 Ultra? === wasikevin [n=kevintw@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [01:14] mdz: not offhand, but I could whip up one [01:15] Mithrandir: are any of the ones published on cdimage usable? [01:16] I don't think so, no. [01:40] agoliveira: how about you? do you have a known good image on hand? [01:41] mdz: Sorry, no. I don't keep old images here and the last one wasn't booting right on the Q1. === ian_brasil_ [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === ian_brasil [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [01:56] mdz: with the changes to image creator, everybody was required to delete old projects. So, no images. === mdamt [n=mdamt@a88-114-255-43.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [01:57] amitk: that change has not hit gutsy, fwif [01:57] -f+w [02:01] Mithrandir: the projects didn't become unusable due to change in platform-name? [02:02] the platform name hasn't changed in gutsy; I haven't uploaded the new mic from moblin.org [02:02] (last time I checked, it didn't have any functionality we wanted) [02:05] Mithrandir: aah, I use mic from git. [02:05] that'd explain it. [02:06] Mithrandir: do you have a working kernel config for mccaslin (samsung)? I want to be sure I don't miss out any DRI or other options [02:07] amitk: not a working lpia one, no. It's traditionally used the -generic kernel, iirc. [02:09] Mithrandir: i386-ume actually which was stripped down version of i386-generic. Handcrafting .config files into the build system is not fun.... [02:10] amitk: ugh. [02:20] mccaslin needs lum and lrm as well [02:20] I think they're missing at the moment? [02:20] mjg59: have a working kernel config handy? [02:21] amitk: Nope [02:21] But the machine's capable enough that the -generic from i386 is fine [02:21] Overkill, but fine :) [02:21] mjg59: those are missing... I have added lum, not done lrm yet [02:21] Thanks [02:23] Is the application menu actually working for anyone at the moment? [02:23] Mine just lists "Extras" and then has 5 entries [02:24] so does mine [02:33] Ditto (last working image) [02:33] Mithrandir: Is Loic going to work on UME as well? [02:33] yes, part-time. [02:34] (part-time on desktop tasks) [02:35] Mithrandir: Hmmm... have to ask Matt to update me on that. Suddenly lot's of people showing up :) [02:37] agoliveira: it's been on the calendar for a while, but yeah, I'm sure you'll get an update on it later today. [02:39] Mithrandir: I was aware of the changes, of course, I meant about who's going to do exactly what now nad, of course, a bit of awe with all the people showing up at once :) [02:43] agoliveira: oh, the who's going-to-do-what is still slightly up in the air, but we're trying to work it out as people come in. [02:45] agoliveira: how's the tools for the theme handling going? AIUI, the new theme is blocked on that? === agoliveira hopes to get a bit of rest from the packaging/hildonnization endless loop :) [02:46] Mithrandir: Yes, I sent a test for Ken but didn't work well. I'm fixing it and will send another test later today. [02:46] sounds good. === vivijim [n=vivijim@201.32.145.217] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === andrunko [n=andrunko@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === vivijim [n=vivijim@201.32.145.217] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] [03:25] Mithrandir: Is anyone currently working on cleaninng openoffice's interface for UME? [03:25] agoliveira: not that I know of, no. [03:32] Doing so would be... interesting === matt_c [n=mcroydon@gozur.sunflowerbroadband.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [03:35] mjg59: You do have som quite weird concept for "interesting". I was thinking more in the lines of a 7th circle of hell :) === agoliveira browsed openoffice's source some time ago and the question mark face remained for weeks... === vivijim [n=vivijim@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bfiller [n=bfiller@fw.pepper.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === wasikevin [n=kevintw@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [04:28] Mithrandir: what is the quickest way to replace the kernel in the .img file from mic? === ian_brasil [n=ian@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === Sciri [n=sean@fw.pepper.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Mobile [04:38] Mithrandir, amitk: Have any of you tried to run openoffice on crownbeach? I would like to know how long it takes to start. [04:39] agoliveira: Do you want the answer in minutes, or hours? :-P [04:39] StevenK: eons is fine :) [04:39] :-D [04:42] agoliveira: I am not that crazy yet.... [04:43] Mithrandir, mjg59, agoliveira: care to test the lpiacompat .debs on your samsungs? Find them at http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/ [04:43] amitk: The boss asked for a test and as you and Tollef are the ones with crownbeaches, thew honors are all yours :) [04:44] agoliveira: can't do it today, got a new flavour to get working... tomorrow perhaps. [04:44] amitk: Sure. [04:44] 2X [05:02] amitk: Seems ok [05:02] Except my /bin has vanished for some reason [05:02] But I can't see how that could be the kernel's fault, so... [05:03] agoliveira: For future reference, I'll be connected all of the time, just /away'd when I'm sleeping, drunk, dead, etc ... [05:03] mjg59: thanks. [05:04] I'll reinstall properly when there's an image with that in [05:04] Thanks! [05:04] StevenK: Cool. Just remind to use /ressurect when you return... from dead :) [05:04] No, that's what Soulstones are for. :-P === jpan_ [i=jpan9@nat/intel/x-b0e5af495d8e65e5] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [05:08] does anyone have a kernel .deb with the fixes from ubuntu git? amitk? [05:08] mdz: ^^^^ [05:12] amitk: The kernel seems to be fine here. === agoliveira is going lunch [05:12] agoliveira: thanks [05:30] Mithrandir, mjg59: do we care about apparmour security on lpia? Or can it disable the module? === nixx [i=93e949bc@h216-18-124-229.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === nixx [i=93e949bc@h216-18-124-229.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has left #ubuntu-mobile ["Leaving"] [05:36] Mithrandir: mjg59, agoliveira_lunch: mdz: LUM also available there now.. give it a spin [05:36] amitk: oh, thanks [05:37] amitk: do you have an LRM as well? [05:38] mdz: working on it === JayC [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-c6cfdcd390c25521] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [05:42] amitk: the console problem is still there; does this kernel have the vm86 fix? [05:42] mdz: Hm. Worked for me. [05:42] oh, I've still booted the old kernel [05:43] what's the trick? [05:43] mdz: Are you sure you booted into the new kernel? Unless you mount /dev/sda1 as /boot, it won't go anywhere grub looks at [05:43] thanks [05:43] (is there a bug filed about that?) [05:43] And then you need to hack menu.lst by hand and replace root=whatever with boot=disk === StevenK runs off to sleep [05:47] mjg59: works, thanks [05:52] agoliveira_lunch: midbrowser in the current build still has drop-down menus [05:52] oh, they vanish after a few seconsd [05:52] xterm doesn't launch for some reason [05:54] amitk: apparmor> not important at this point at least. [05:54] Mithrandir: removed :) === rustyl [n=rusty@c-76-27-226-169.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === wasikevin [n=kevintw@221-169-13-105.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === craigoz [n=craigo@cust1608.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [06:12] mdz: You had menus on MID that vanished? 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[09:15] amitk: Suspect it depends whether we're just targetting the Q1, or whether there's any desire to potentially support other UMPCs at some stage [09:15] I only need madwifi, though [09:16] I haven't heard of anything containing ipw yet. I'll disable it for now. === sabotage [n=chatzill@70.98.187.84] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [09:45] mjg59, agoliveira, mdz, Mithrandir: Please help yourselves to lpiacompat and lpia kernel, LUM and LRM packages from people.ubuntu.com/~amitk [09:45] amitk: Thanks! [09:45] That'll be in the next upload? === agoliveira hugs amitk! [09:46] mjg59: yes. Let me know how it works for you. [09:46] Excellent. Thanks very much! [09:47] amitk: Maybe you should post on the UME ML so the Intel people can test as well. 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[11:53] HappyCamp_ubuntu: hi [11:53] What did your email mean for LPIA? lpiacompat? [11:53] Is that just the kernel? [11:53] I'm confused. [11:53] yes... didn't i say the keyword "kernel" there? [11:54] :) [11:54] amitk: Not that I noticed. [11:54] So do I need to change the FSET in Moblin Image Creator? [11:55] Should I install this special kernel for a McCaslin system? [11:55] For mccaslin yes... you should be using the lpiacompat kernels for samsungs now. But you can wait until tomorrow [11:56] It will fix the blinking screen, inability to get to console, etc. [11:56] Sweet :) ToddBrandt read what has been said here. [11:57] amitk: we have been seeing that funkyness. It was strange. If I booted my LiveUSB image from the USB hub then it worked. amitk [11:57] amitk: so what's causing the issue with the blinking screen any ways? [11:57] But plugged directly into the system it failed amitk [11:57] amitk: ahhh, so my samsung isn't crazy [11:58] rustyl: see what amitk has to say about the lpiacompat kernel ;-) [11:58] amitk: So question. What will be the name of the package that I need to install? kernel-lpiacompat ? [11:59] what do i install? [11:59] ooooh... lots of intel people ganging up :-p [11:59] hold on [12:00] From http://people.ubuntu.com/~amitk/ : linux-image-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.40_lpia.deb, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22.4-13.5_lpia.deb, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-13-lpiacompat_2.6.22-13.33_lpia.deb [12:00] that should even get wireless on the samsungs working [12:00] amitk: how long until that hits ports.ubuntu.com ? [12:01] The kernel upload is being worked on today (US time). So I guess it will hit ports tomorrow. I will keep you posted. [12:01] Thanks! I appreciate it. [12:04] ok, downloading === voak [i=sabotage@nat/intel/x-6831c1e6a24fa7b9] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === voak is now known as sabotage_ === paxmanchris [n=chris@ool-435218c1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === paxmanchris [n=chris@ool-435218c1.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-mobile [] [12:31] amitk, i just tried the lpiacompat deps [12:31] amitk, but the boot fails to mount the squashfs image [12:33] rustyl: Make sure it's passing boot=disk rather than root=foo [12:33] let me see what's happening [12:34] looks like the squashfs module is not loaded [12:35] Hm. They work fine for me. [12:35] (Q1) [12:35] Oh - did you install linux-ubuntu-modules as well? [12:35] Otherwise you won't get squashfs [12:35] mjg59, yes [12:35] the module is in the resulting filesystem [12:35] Odd. [12:36] but it's not being added to the initial ram disk [12:36] let me see if somebody did something evil to the image creation step [12:51] FYI for anyone that cares... we don't seem to pick up any of the modules in /lib/modules/*/ubuntu (where by 'pickup' i mean the initramfs tools are not copying the files into the initial ramdisk) === AaronL2 [i=[27Sar86@onyx.spiritone.com] has left #ubuntu-mobile []