[12:04] <Gin> how do I know what's using that module? any way to force unload?
[12:04] <eric> Seveas, do you strongly recommend it? or only if I experience problems?
[12:05] <MasterShrek> Gin, lsmod will last modules and their dependencies, you may need to remove a different modules that depends on snd_ca0106
[12:05] <MasterShrek> lsmod will list**
[12:05] <Creeture> x-fak: Then yes, it's worth it. Some nice new features in feisty and gutsy. You can't go directly from dapper to gutsy, so you have to go through edgy -> feisty -> gutsy (soon) or do a reinstall.
[12:05] <Seveas> eric, somewhere in between. I'd recommend it if you have the bandwidth, but if you don't want to: suits me as well :)
[12:05] <pmo_> anyone working with blender.. i have lost the select arrows.. arrows don't appear anymore, i don't know how to bring those back, any clues, on anyone where i can find some help, sounds blender chatroom is invite only ?
[12:05] <eric> Seveas, well I don't want to be downloading open office and tremulous again... kind of a waste of time
[12:05] <x-fak> ok Creeture thanks, i think i'll just format
[12:06] <gnizzub> quit
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, unless they are still in your apt cache :)
[12:06] <Creeture> x-fak: Wait a couple of weeks until gutsy is officially released. It's pretty stable now, but not perfect.
[12:06] <eric> Seveas, they stay there?
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, until you clean the cache (which is done automatically once every N days)
[12:06] <peter_> should i remove these packages so that libnet-perl can install.....doesnt make sense to me
[12:06] <soundray> Creeture: will it be perfect once released?
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, du -sh /var/cache/apt
[12:06] <eric> Seveas, they should still be there
[12:06] <soundray> Creeture: you don't have to answer that ;)
[12:06] <x-fak> ok Creeture i'ill wait new version then
[12:07] <eric> Seveas, okay I will reinstall all packages
[12:07] <eric> Seveas, thanks
[12:07] <Gin> master_of_master, anything to remove all its dependencies automatically?
[12:07] <Hilikus> hey guys, i installed a wiki using synaptic and it put everything under \usr\share, but apache only looks under \var\www, how do i make it access the wiki? should i do a symlink in www to the wiki dir?
[12:07] <Creeture> soundray: Yeah, it'll be perfect. All of these people will be running Gutsy Gibbin in a State of Nirvana and we'll be out of a job. That's what'll happen.
[12:07] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: Sort of.  Ubuntu boots to a prompt, so then I do "startx."  /etc/fstab is set to the GUI boot.
[12:07] <fyrestrtr> Hilikus: read the lamp tutorial, the section about virtual hosts :)
[12:07] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: sorry, /etc/init.d
[12:07] <Hilikus> lamp tutorial? where is it?
[12:08] <Creeture> Hilikus: first, get out of Windows mode. Use your //// instead. Then, look at the apache documenation for the Alias and Directory directives.
[12:08] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[12:08] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[12:08] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> there
[12:08] <Seveas> Flats, if it supports both, use alsa
[12:08] <INTit> hi
[12:08] <Hilikus> Creeture how is creating a symlink windows mode??
[12:08] <Yourname``_> Hi. How can I setup VNC so I can logon even before I can logon to gnome? Like a service? Just like how I dont need to logion to gnome to be able to ssh from outside.
[12:09] <Flats> Cool, thats what I'm using
[12:09] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: boot again to the prompt, then don't start X. Do a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm', then 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'. You should have GDM back after that.
[12:09] <Flats> thanks
[12:09] <Creeture> Hilikus: It's not. It's all of those \\\ that you kept using.
[12:09] <PyChild> Is there a way to install skype without it messing up my ubuntu?
[12:09] <Hilikus> windows mode would be to move the wiki to /var/www
[12:09] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: have you set grub to boot to recovery mode by default?
[12:09] <Seveas> PyChild, install the .deb file from skype.com
[12:09] <Seveas> !skype | PyChild
[12:09] <ubotu> PyChild: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:09] <peter_> i have skype installed
[12:09] <peter_> works fine
[12:09] <peter_> on ubuntu
[12:09] <INTit> ive got a problem with ubuntu, just installed it on my laptop but it will only let me chooose 640 or 800*600 resolution and some windows dont fit on the screen
[12:09] <PyChild> Seveas thanks
[12:09] <INTit> can anybody help ?
[12:10] <SpiffyBalak> what command does System-->Preferences-->Removable Drives and Media run?
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> !fixres | INTit
[12:10] <ubotu> INTit: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:10] <mc44> SpiffyBalak: gnome-volume-properties
[12:10] <INTit> thanks!
[12:12] <christopher_> i have 32 mb vram and 3d graphics are enabled beryl will load and i can use compiz window manager but i get no effects at all can I get some help?
[12:12] <soundray> !beryl > christopher_, please read the private message from ubotu
[12:14] <Hilikus> fyrestrtr thanks, the tutorials great
[12:14] <usr13>  OpenOffice.org 2.3 is available for download now!
[12:15] <soundray> usr13: it's part of gutsy, too
[12:15] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, Sorry for  my elementary questions, but I am very new on that. I have a disk with 160 GB, what's your recommendation editing partitions, I want to know manually installation method, not to use Guided of course if you have time to tell me. I am on the step 5 of 8 ( prepare partition ) also have a disk 160041 free space ( i deleted the partitions ). I really appreciate your help!
[12:15] <dfsf> whats the equivalent of registry files in a NIX system?
[12:15] <kitche> bah my stupid speakers are to low to play music though them
[12:15] <aLeSD> how to reconfigure the xserver in de command line ?
[12:15] <jussi01> dfsf: registry files? what are they?
[12:16] <jussi01> :P
[12:16] <Xero> dfsf, *nix doesn't have anything remotely similar to the crappy Registry.
[12:16] <dfsf> Windows xp registry files
[12:16] <soundray> aLeSD: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <poningru> b_wolf_007: what do you plan on using this for?
[12:16] <Xero> The closest thing I know would be GConf.
[12:16] <Seveas> Xero, gconf...
[12:16] <poningru> just desktop?
[12:16] <Seveas> heh ;)
[12:16] <poningru> then just let it do its thing
[12:16] <b_wolf_007> home pc
[12:16] <dfsf> Xero: I need to modify my Mac version of Starcraft "registry files" to use custom bnet servers
[12:16] <b_wolf_007> poningru, home pc
[12:16] <dfsf> I know how to do it in Windows XP but I cant figure out where this info is soted in Mac
[12:16] <vph> hey i got a question, how can i mount a sda device and get the live usercd to read the data on it?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> vph: perhaps you need #macosx
[12:17] <poningru> b_wolf_007: yeah then just let the installer handle it
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> whoops, dfsf that's for you > #macosx
[12:17] <soundray> b_wolf_007: make a 12GB root (/) partition, 1GB swap and the rest /home. This should last you a long time. You might leave some unpartitioned space for installing a second system.
[12:17] <b_wolf_007> poningru, can you help me creating partitions, I'll do it right now
[12:17] <vph> oh
[12:18] <poningru> b_wolf_007: just go with 'use entire hard disk'
[12:18] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: i recommend at least 3 partitions one for swap (about the size of your ram or 1.5*) one for root (where everything is instaled configured etc about 10 Gib or) and one for holding /home/ (the users files)
[12:18] <IanLiu> How do I install GLib?
[12:18] <IanLiu> sudo apt-get install glib doesn't works
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> ok
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> thanks
[12:18] <soundray> IanLiu: it's installed. Ubuntu doesn't work without it.
[12:18] <vph> hey i got a question, how can i mount a sda device and get the live user cd to read the data on it??? when i try to do so with the system/admin/disks it says i am not the owner...
[12:19] <soundray> IanLiu: do you need it for compiling? Do a 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[12:19] <IanLiu> But I was trying to compile Geany, and it say I need Glib
[12:19] <soundray> IanLiu: ^^
[12:19] <INTit> hey i got a problem, im trying to setup the screen resolution and the tutorial has told me to restart xorg
[12:19] <Beefheart> are there any way to be super user in the windows mode?
[12:19] <IanLiu> hmmm
[12:19] <IanLiu> I think I already installed build-essentials
[12:19] <INTit> xorg is asking me to select a video card driver but im not sure which one
[12:19] <soundray> Beefheart: start the program in question from Alt-F2 with gksudo
[12:19] <INTit> any ideas ?
[12:19] <IanLiu> I will check it out
[12:19] <Xero> INTit, what video card do you have?
[12:19] <IanLiu> thanks
[12:20] <Creeture> IanLiu: Any reason to compile? geany is in the repository.
[12:20] <soundray> IanLiu: the actual package names are libc6*
[12:20] <Xero> Beefheart, it's called the SYSTEM user exploit.
[12:20] <IanLiu> But Its old version
[12:20] <INTit> i think its onboard graphics im on a toshiba laptop
[12:20] <Creeture> IanLiu: You could apt-get build-dev geany
[12:20] <soundray> !info geany | IanLiu
[12:20] <ubotu> ianliu: geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1314 kB, installed size 4328 kB
[12:20] <Xero> Don't use it. It's worse than having root on *nix, because Windows is virus prone.
[12:20] <IanLiu> I want to compile last SVN revision
[12:20] <soundray> !info geany gutsy | IanLiu
[12:20] <ubotu> ianliu: geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-2 (gutsy), package size 1421 kB, installed size 4424 kB
[12:20] <Beefheart> ?
[12:20] <vph> hwo do i start the file browsing app with gksudo??????
[12:21] <soundray> IanLiu: wait for gutsy, it'll come with 0.11
[12:21] <soundray> vph: gksudo nautilus
[12:21] <vph> danke
[12:21] <soundray> vph: immer gern
[12:21] <INTit> any ideas xero ?
[12:21] <pH1r3> hey there, is it possible to extract files from .rar files in ubuntu?
[12:21] <IanLiu> gutsy? =p
[12:21] <Poundo> just installed dapper for the first time and never was asked to make a root password now it won't let me su
[12:22] <pH1r3> because file roller says it cant
[12:22] <Flats> Does anyone know if you'll be able to do a simple upgrade from fiesty to gutsy or will you have to reinstall all over again?
[12:22] <Creeture> IanLiu: That's cool. Try the apt-get build-dep geany. Might give you enough to build the svn version.
[12:22] <vph> ah crap, now i got access to the directory but its empty
[12:22] <mc44> !rar | pH1r3
[12:22] <ubotu> pH1r3: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:22] <overclucker> vph: be very careful with that command
[12:22] <soundray> Beefheart: Hold Alt, press F2. In the dialog, enter 'gksudo ' and the name of the program you want to run as superuser.
[12:22] <soundray> !language | vph
[12:22] <ubotu> vph: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <overclucker> vph: is sda1 mounted?
[12:22] <Beefheart> ok thaNKS
[12:22] <IanLiu> Ok, I will try it! Acctually Im not at home, when I get there I will try ;) Thanks!
[12:22] <vph> overclucker: yes i used the disk tool on the admin menu
[12:22] <hoovooloo> test
[12:23] <soundray> hoovooloo: sorry, that didn't work.
[12:23] <Beefheart> Anyone here installed Anarchyonline on a linux PC ?
[12:23] <attunix> Hi. I'm new to Java and made a simple little program today. I have it compiled into a class; how do I make it executable? (I'm under Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn)
[12:24] <Poundo> no root password but my user account is fine as that was the only one i created does su default to something?
[12:24] <overclucker> vph, in console you can discover what is mounted by typing sudo mount, or by typing cat /etc/mtab
[12:24] <jrib> !root > Poundo (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:24] <IanLiu> !root > IanLiu
[12:24] <vph> overclucker: its mounted the file are just hidden
[12:25] <Poundo> duh don't know how to see private message sorry
[12:25] <vph> overclucker: or something
[12:25] <soundray> IanLiu: you can also '/msg ubotu root'
[12:25] <anthony> attunix: You can do it through right-click > properties or with chmod.
[12:25] <overclucker> vph, and ctrl-h shaw anything?
[12:25] <Creeture> attunix: There are better forums for that question, but in general, you'd do something like "java file.class" to execute
[12:25] <Xero> Hint: 16 more days till 7.04 is obsolete.
[12:25] <vph> overclucker: not in nautilus
[12:25] <anthony> Xero: that's not true - it's supported for 18 months.
[12:25] <overclucker> console?
[12:25] <IanLiu> Heheheh
[12:25] <attunix> Xero: not obselete; just old :)
[12:25] <vph> but sudo ls path shows it
[12:25] <attunix> anthony: thanks
[12:25] <overclucker> vph, ls -a
[12:26] <jrib> !root | Poundo
[12:26] <ubotu> Poundo: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:26] <Creeture> attunix: There's no such thing as making a class file executable. It requires the java runtime engine (jre, also just called java) to execute. Then there are classpaths and jars... It's not for the faint of heart.
[12:26] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, I am creating a 28000 MB partition for system files, but i have problems with mount point, what exactly i must write here
[12:26] <soundray> b_wolf_007: only a slash /
[12:26] <attunix> Creeture: ok thanks :)
[12:26] <attunix> /leave
[12:26] <IanLiu> You type peoples name, or there is a "reply" button?
[12:26] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: for root partition the mount point is simply /
[12:26] <Poundo> thanks again:-!
[12:26] <vph> overclucker: same... i need to see the files in nautilus to burn em
[12:27] <soundray> IanLiu: you type the beginning of the nick and hit Tab to complete (at least in my client)
[12:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, thanks, and sorry again for those stupid questions
[12:27] <jrib> !tab | IanLiu
[12:27] <ubotu> IanLiu: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:27] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: for the home partition the mount point is /home
[12:27] <INTit> hey i got a problem, im trying to setup the screen resolution and the tutorial has told me to restart xorg
[12:27] <twoshadetod> If anyone needs webhosting for their open source projects, art projects , etc let me know, I have 3 slots left I'm giving away to people that need them.  These come with no dev support
[12:27] <IanLiu> haha, nice
[12:27] <nclx> I have 1 public IP, I have 2 godaddy ssl certs (1 for mail.mydomain.com) and (1 for www.mydomain.com), both of these are ran from the same apache2 as virtual hosts, I would like to have an ssl site for each, is this possible?
[12:27] <INTit> xorg is asking me to select a video card driver but im not sure which one
[12:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, ok thanks
[12:27] <nclx> they are on virtual hosts on the same IP
[12:27] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: not stupid at all we all have been begginers at some point
[12:27] <soundray> INTit: what kind of card do you have?
[12:27] <overclucker> vph: so did sudo ls, or ls -a show anything?
[12:28] <INTit> Graphics adaptor
[12:28] <INTit> Intel | Intel GMA X3100
[12:28] <vph> overclucker: well, i used sudo ls path and showed the same than ls -a
[12:28] <tube013> Anyone know if I'm missing a perl package, that is required for the use of "our" in the script?  I'm trying to run myth2ipod and it's erroring out at the first instance of "our" in the script.
[12:28] <Beefheart> is there a way to enable so i can see my root files in windows mode?
[12:28] <soundray> INTit: pick intel then, if it's there. If not, i810
[12:28] <Creeture> nclx: apache only supports a single IP address per SSL cert. Does that answer your question enough?
[12:28] <overclucker> vph: which was what?
[12:28] <timseves> Has anyone here tried and succeded in booting Gutsy LiveCD over PXE?
[12:28] <timseves> I've got so far
[12:29] <INTit> thanks intel wasnt there
[12:29] <overclucker> vph: did it show files?
[12:29] <INTit> so i810
[12:29] <soundray> Beefheart: Alt-F2 'gksudo nautilus'. Be careful -- one wrong move and your system could be wrecked
[12:29] <jrib> timseves: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <vph> overclucker: the list of the files in the mounted device
[12:29] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, thanks, i'll remember your help, and I hope one day I can help somebody, i'll do it I'm inspired from someone ;)
[12:29] <vph> but nautilus cant see anything
[12:29] <timseves> jrib: my mistake sorry
[12:29] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: you are wellcome ;)
[12:29] <nclx> Creeture well can I take one of my ssl certs and apply it to both www.mydomain.com and mail.mydomain.com?  They both have different webroots, one in /var/www/site and one in /var/www/webmail ?
[12:30] <soundray> INTit: there is some kind of caveat with this type of card and the i810 driver -- something to do with resolution...
[12:30] <overclucker> vph: gksu nautilus, then you navigated to the sda1 dir?
[12:30] <vph> overclucker:  gksudo nautilus, correct and then i got into the path and nothing was shown
[12:30] <IanLiu> Is there an automated way to install nVidea graphic cards?
[12:30] <erUSUL> !nvidia | IanLiu
[12:30] <ubotu> IanLiu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <nclx> well last time I did it was sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:31] <Creeture> nclx: 1 IP, 1 cert. Unless they are wildcard certs, no.
[12:31] <vph> overclucker: got it
[12:31] <soundray> IanLiu: there are automated ways, but we recommend strongly against them.
[12:31] <erUSUL> IanLiu: System>Admin>Restricetd manager..
[12:31] <usr13> IanLiu, No, you still have to take the case open and use the 'ol screwdriver.
[12:31] <vph> overclucker:  gksudo nautilus path, worked just fine
[12:31] <IanLiu> thanks, I asked ubotu  for nvidea :/
[12:31] <Poundo> This may make some enemys but how come apt-get install does not find webmin
[12:31] <overclucker> vph: cool
[12:31] <soundray> IanLiu: except for the one that erUSUL recommends, of course
[12:32] <nclx> because webmin is not in apt as far as I know
[12:32] <erUSUL> soundray: ;)
[12:32] <riotkittie> because there are security issues with webmin, i believe
[12:32] <juro> so it seems that I can write fine onto the ntfs drive, but I get a 'Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character' error with german characters. obviously because I only have us_EN as locale. How can I install de_DE?
[12:32] <Beefheart> soundray thanks
[12:32] <soundray> juro: back up to tar files!
[12:32] <lonix> hi, i just installed eterm via a sudo apt-get install eterm but there is no command avalible for this terminal nor any shortcut on the mainmenu
[12:32] <IanLiu> I tried to install it, but It crashed my X..
[12:32] <lonix> so where can i find it ?
[12:32] <Creeture> Poundo: Because webmin doesn't allow their application to be put into the repositories. You can download and install it all day from their site. I think.
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: It's Eterm from the commandline.
[12:33] <juro> soundray. and then the users that want to access the backups will really have a great time :)
[12:33] <MasterShrek> lonix, try: whereis eterm
[12:33] <soundray> juro: better than having to deal with borked filenames
[12:33] <lonix> Creeture: thanks i feal so stupid now :P
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: try dpkg -l eterm | grep bin
[12:33] <usr13> Webmin is easy to install, but you should only use it as a crutch, and then get rid of it.
[12:33] <nclx> Lonix capital E
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: No, don't do what I said. try dpkg -L eterm | grep bin
[12:34] <Beefheart> soundray it didnt show all my root files, only the desktop folder for root
[12:34] <lonix> SOLVED
[12:34] <lonix> But thanks for help
[12:34] <Poundo> ok Creeture I'll look
[12:34] <Creeture> lonix: And you got a short lesson in dpkg to boot. :)
[12:34] <loserbar> okay this is definately an overly asked question but if anyone here could spare 5 seconds to just help me out. which version is currently the most stable? im sort of confused between dapper (lts) edgy or fiesty.
[12:34] <juro> soundray, well that won't happen, if I add a german locale. will it?
[12:34] <Seveas> Creeture, it's the other way around: ubuntu doesn't want horribly unsafe stuff like webmin in the repos :)
[12:34] <Seveas> !webmin
[12:34] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[12:35] <soundray> Beefheart: look carefully in the nautilus window, you should find a large "Up" button
[12:35] <lonix> hehe yea...
[12:35] <loserbar> i know that 7.10 is due to be released soon so would that become the current stable version? or is that going to be considered testing
[12:35] <Creeture> Seveas: I happen to agree with ubotu's way anyhow.
[12:35] <nclx> loserbar run feisty unless you are a corporation with some policy needing support
[12:35] <riotkittie> loserbar: Feisty's stable. Dapper's long term support
[12:35] <soundray> juro: maybe not, but you'd be losing your desired compatibility with "standard" Windows.
[12:35] <riotkittie> and stable
[12:36] <loserbar> support meaning what
[12:36] <juro> soundray, why?
[12:36] <vph> arrhhhhhgggg
[12:36] <Creeture> FYI for those who work in a mixed environment, NFSv4 is MUCH better in gutsy than it was in feisty.
[12:36] <vph> now the file burning thingy from nautilus wont read the files
[12:36] <loserbar> and is gutsy going to be the new stable?
[12:36] <nclx> yes soon
[12:36] <nclx> but not yet
[12:36] <loserbar> ah
[12:36] <soundray> juro: because there is no guarantee that Windows will be using the same locale.
[12:36] <Creeture> vph: Where are those files?
[12:36] <loserbar> yeah
[12:36] <overclucker> vph: what message is it giving you?
[12:37] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, I have installed maybe thousand time windows operating system, because I'm working as a pc technician here, now I'm trying Ubuntu, and I mean to offer to my friends this operating system, but i need to learn much more for that, i like learning much more of that, and I'll try hard for that, but i need some recommendation, guides where to explore, what to read what to do as a beginner that I am
[12:37] <juro> soundray, Windows only has to read the files, not write them
[12:37] <loserbar> i havent installed it yet so should i just wait it out for gutsy and avoid the upgrade?
[12:37] <nclx> loserbar the linux world moves fast, I suggest you install feisty wait one month after gutsy is released and the upgrade
[12:37] <vph> Creeture: in a windows partition, i am on a livecd, now that i went to the console, it says i dont have the correct codec for burning mp3 in a dvd
[12:37] <riotkittie> b_wolf_007:  are you completely new to linux?
[12:37] <soundray> juro: anyway, it's your system, do what you like. Check out 'env | grep en_' to see all the environment variables that are set to an English locale at present.
[12:37] <Creeture> vph: NTFS or FAT32?
[12:37] <vph> overclucker:  now that i went to the console, it says i dont have the correct codec for burning mp3 in a dvd
[12:37] <vph> ntfs
[12:37] <siloko> b_wolf_007: ubuntuforums is a great place to start
[12:37] <b_wolf_007> riotkittie, yes
[12:37] <Creeture> vph: Drop to a commandline. do mount | grep sda1
[12:38] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: maybe ubuntu-guide.org is a good starting point the wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com have many guides and how tos
[12:38] <b_wolf_007> siloko, i'm here to
[12:38] <juro> soundray, true. I shall have to install a german locale thought, so how do I do that?
[12:38] <bruenig> ubuntuguide is bad old not official not recommended
[12:38] <loserbar> nclx: yeah thats probably a better idea. i guess im spoiled by debian and their clarity about whats stable.
[12:38] <Creeture> vph: whereever it is mounted, do sudo umount /path/to/sda1
[12:38] <erUSUL> bruenig: then i take that back
[12:38] <b_wolf_007> everybody, thanks a lot
[12:38] <vph> Creeture: what for?
[12:38] <k31th> lol, anyone know of an easy way to make a website... or know a cheap designer :p
[12:38] <soundray> juro: afaik, you just set those variables to the locales you want.
[12:38] <LadyNikon> whats the trigger for installing packages
[12:38] <LadyNikon> not install the distro
[12:38] <loserbar> but thanks for the info. you spared me some trouble
[12:38] <vph> Creeture: its mounted
[12:39] <Creeture> vpn: 'cause I rock. Trust me for a sec.
[12:39] <nclx> k31th yourself would be as cheap as they come www.w3schools.org
[12:39] <Creeture> vph: unmount it.
[12:39] <juro> soundray, the system only understands locales accessible to it. or is that not true?
[12:39] <LadyNikon> !install
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:39] <TheSkorm> herrow Peppery
[12:39] <soundray> juro: there's a way to change it permanently in the system as well, but I forget what it was. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' used to work, but doesn't now.
[12:39] <k31th> nclx: can you design?
[12:39] <overclucker> Creeture: good answer (;
[12:39] <vph> Creeture: mount | grep sda1 shows nothing
[12:39] <nclx> I will not design your site sorry
[12:40] <soundray> juro: I'm sure Seveas knows the right incantation for changing locales?
[12:40] <vph> btw it should be sda
[12:40] <vph> not sda1
[12:40] <juro> soundray, I am not trying to change it system wide, only as a mount option for ntfs-3g
[12:40] <Creeture> vph: Didn't you say that's where your files are?
[12:40] <nclx> k31th what kind of site do you need
[12:40] <k31th> html / php
[12:40] <nclx> right... but what should it do?
[12:40] <Seveas> soundray, you could edit /etc/profile or select a locale when logging in via gdm/kdm
[12:40] <Creeture> vph: whatever partition it is, sudo umount /dev/sda?
[12:40] <riotkittie> best thing i can suggest, if you have the time to read, is to hit the library and just grab some books. i'm a huge fan of O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell, and UNIX in a Nutshell, but
[12:41] <vph> its not mounted
[12:41] <k31th> nclx: it's for a data cabling company.
[12:41] <b_wolf_007> riotkittie, do you think i'm to far from being a true user of linux
[12:41] <vph> thats what it says
[12:41] <Creeture> vph: ok. cool. which partition is it? fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:41] <juro> seveas, are all locales installed as a default?
[12:41] <soundray> Seveas: apparently I misread juro's intentions... can you localize mount options for ntfs?
[12:41] <Sonicadvance1> Yo. I'm trying to get Amarok and Flash 9 to play nice together is there any way to?
[12:41] <vph> yes
[12:41] <juro> soundray, with ntfs-3g yes
[12:41] <Seveas> juro, no, additional ones are available via system -> admin -> language support
[12:41] <Seveas> juro, ah that's different
[12:41] <juro> seveas, ubuntu-server here :)
[12:42] <Seveas> juro, add nls=utf-8 (or whatever encoding you want) as a mount option
[12:42] <riotkittie> b_wolf_007: no! :P  there's a learning curve, and it can be confusing/infuriating/absolutely maddening at times, but the fact you're eager to learn says a lot
[12:42] <Creeture> vph: Got it?
[12:42] <soundray> juro: I still think it's a recipe for disaster. tar files... I'll shut up now.
[12:42] <juro> seveas, and will that work even if 'locale -a' does not show the one specified?
[12:43] <vph> Creeture: yes
[12:43] <Creeture> vph: which partition is it?
[12:43] <Seveas> juro, you're specifiyng encodings/codepages, not locales
[12:43] <usr13> !search server-kernel
[12:43] <ubotu> Found:
[12:43] <riotkittie> brb
[12:43] <eggd> hey, im looking for a guide to install awn-manager. im been googling some without any good succes.
[12:43] <siloko> b_wolf_007: the times when you weren't a proper user until you'd written your first device driver are long gone :)
[12:43] <juro> soundray. :) probably is - but we'll see
[12:43] <juro> seveas, ok, I'll try that. thanks
[12:43] <vph> Creeture: /dev/sda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:43] <riotkittie> pidgeon's icon is like. the ugliest thing evAr. one one one.
[12:43] <vph> correct sda1
[12:44] <Creeture> vph: alrighty. do this. first, whats your id? just type id
[12:44] <b_wolf_007> siloko, can you explain a little, i didn't understand that
[12:44] <Seveas> riotkittie, you haven't seen a picture if me yet :p
[12:44] <soundray> siloko: these days it's enough to have submitted a kernel patch ;)
[12:44] <vph> uid:999
[12:44] <g0dd3ss> mm
[12:44] <siloko> soundray: LOL - you newbies . .  .
[12:44] <Instabin> if you have dpms do you need to have the horzsync and vertrefresh?
[12:45] <Poundo> are there any debian friendly gui management tools besides webmin?
[12:45] <soundray> instabin: one has nothing to do with the other. Do you mean DDS?
[12:45] <Instabin> no
[12:45] <vph> Creeture: it says 999
[12:45] <Creeture> vph: for user and group?
[12:45] <tsukasa_> hey how do i reinitialize gnome startup stuff? my gnome failsafe works as it should with nvidia-config and my dual monitors by my user account no longer does
[12:46] <vph> Creeture: same
[12:46] <tsukasa_> how do i tell gnome to reset me
[12:46] <Instabin> Soundray: im trying to help a guy that has a i945 mobile chip set and his resolution is stuck at 1024x768
[12:46] <Creeture> vph: mkdir ~/win ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=999,gid=999 /dev/sda1 ~/win
[12:46] <Instabin> Soundray: it needs to be 1440x900
[12:46] <siloko> tsukasa_: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts gnome
[12:46] <Creeture> vph: you can copy & paste that.
[12:46] <tsukasa_> siloko: not that i mean startup gnome scripts and such
[12:46] <soundray> instabin: apparently you need to install something called 915resolution. I'm no expert, but have a look...
[12:46] <tsukasa_> siloko: my user environment basically
[12:46] <tsukasa_> i want to reset it
[12:47] <Mourad> hi
[12:47] <soundray> !info 915resolution | instabin
[12:47] <ubotu> instabin: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:47] <siloko> tsukasa_: what rollback to it's original state?
[12:47] <vph> Creeture: you mister, know your way into the filesystem, i bow to you
[12:47] <Creeture> vph: So you see it then?
[12:47] <tsukasa_> siloko: for gnome yes
[12:47] <vph> yes
[12:47] <vph> ls
[12:47] <vph> normal
[12:47] <vph> gives it to me
[12:47] <Creeture> vph: Didn't I tell you that I rock?
[12:47] <siloko> tsukasa_: no idea sorry
[12:47] <vph> Creeture: do you know how to turn on a laptop frontal sound plug?
[12:48] <Creeture> vph: Not a clue. I'd love to stay and help, but the wife keeps calling. I have to go home now.
[12:48] <vph> Creeture: yes you rock
[12:48] <vph> Creeture: thanks
[12:48] <Instabin> Soundray: thanks
[12:48] <Creeture> vph: For homework, I leave it to you to figure out how to make that thing mount as you every time. It involves /etc/fstab and "man mount"
[12:49] <Creeture> You boys & girls have a good one. Traffic awaits!
[12:49] <siloko> tsukasa_: creating a new user gives you an essentially default gnome install - but some stuff you may have altered as your standard login user may still be used . . .
[12:49] <rso> anyone outthere
[12:49] <erichj> Instabin, instead of 915resolution you can also install the xserver-xorg-video-intel package. which tends to perform better as was updated not too long ago
[12:50] <riotkittie> Seveas: i am willing to put money on the fact that you are nowhere near as ugly as the pidgeon icon
[12:50] <riotkittie> unless... you have a purple head and a beak.  then all bets are off :P
[12:50] <Seveas> riotkittie, well, :)
[12:50] <soundray> erichj: that's useful knowledge, thanks
[12:51] <erichj> soundray, welcome
[12:51] <rso> what's on here, folks?
[12:51] <soundray> !ubuntu | rso
[12:51] <ubotu> rso: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:53] <BlackCow> i am having so much trouble trying to get these damn drivers to compile for my dfe-530tx+ NIC card >_<
[12:53] <siloko> ok later guys
[12:54] <BlackCow> does anything seem wrong with, gcc *.c *.h -o dlinkdriver
[12:54] <soundray> BlackCow: no swearing please. Who says you have to compile drivers?
[12:54] <Al-Khouli> Hi all , i need a free pdf reader or editor where i can add my notes and underline words ??
[12:54] <hrnt> "*.h" part
[12:54] <BlackCow> because when i do it I get a crap load of errors
[12:54] <Erythro> hmm why am i in ubuntu-unregged
[12:54] <BlackCow> oh did I swear? sorry, but yeah its a bunch of .C files and headers
[12:55] <portablejim> I am having wireless networking difficulties. I can ping network computers but not google.com or 4.2.2.2. Can somebody help me please?
[12:55] <soundray> BlackCow: why are you compiling drivers?
[12:55] <BlackCow> how else do I install them?
[12:55] <juro> damn, didn't work either.
[12:55] <Evanlec> modprobe? ;p
[12:55] <soundray> BlackCow: this is a fairly common network card. It should be supported out of the box by ubuntu.
[12:56] <tms_> portablejim: yes, it seems as if the gateway out of the subnet is not set
[12:56] <Al-Khouli> Hi all , i need a free pdf reader or editor where i can add my notes and underline words ?? can anyone help ?
[12:56] <BlackCow> its Ubuntu server edition 7.04
[12:56] <portablejim> so I need to set a gateway address?
[12:56] <BlackCow> I need ifconfig eth0
[12:56] <BlackCow> and it couldnt see it
[12:56] <soundray> Al-Khouli: apparently evince will be able to do that in the next version of ubuntu, to be released later this month.
[12:57] <BlackCow> I did *
[12:57] <tms_> portablejim: yes. Did you manually configure the IP adress if you network interface?
[12:57] <portablejim> yes
[12:57] <soundray> BlackCow: is this the only NIC in your machine?
[12:57] <BlackCow> yes
[12:57] <juro> what is the *best* ntfs driver available?
[12:57] <tms_> portablejim: then type in the IP of your gateway/router into gateway address and you should be set
[12:57] <Evanlec> juro, there's only one, ntfs-3g
[12:57] <Al-Khouli> soundray: this means i won't be able to install it on 7.04 ?
[12:57] <Evanlec> !ntfs | juro
[12:57] <ubotu> juro: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:57] <soundray> BlackCow: do you see your card when you type lspci?
[12:58] <juro> Evanlec, ok, thanx.
[12:58] <BlackCow> leme go check *runs to the computer*
[12:58] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, it means u could, but it would be easier to wait until 7.10 comes out on the 18th
[12:58] <soundray> Al-Khouli: you may be able to backport it, but that takes some work and knowledge.
[12:58] <Al-Khouli> soundray: oh , i already have it ! u mean it's to be updated
[12:58] <sky1> I am trying to install Vmware in red hat, the error when I use rpm it shows is cant create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/__db.000
[12:58] <soundray> Al-Khouli: yes, the current version doesn't support editing.
[12:59] <soundray> sky1: wrong channel. Install ubuntu and ask again.
[12:59] <Evanlec> sky1, this channel is for ubuntu users, ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[12:59] <portablejim> still get "Destination host unreachable".
[12:59] <erUSUL> sky1: wrong channel ubuntu users around here
[12:59] <sky1> lol ok
[12:59] <sky1> sorry guys
[12:59] <cypher1> sky1, take diversion
[12:59] <BlackCow> hmm, interesting, it shows the graphics card, a bunch of USB controlers, but nothing about the NIC
[12:59] <tms_> portablejim: hm.
[12:59] <juro> ubotu, yes, I have already mounted it. 1st I got a message that my kernel is deficient. now when I write files onto it, I get this error message: 'Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character'
[12:59] <hhp21> Hey everyone! :) I have a question about OpenOffice.org.. when I'm typing in the word processor, the processor constantly tries to predict the word that I'm about to type and it gets annoying. How can I turn that off?
[12:59] <BlackCow> do you think it might be toasted or something?
[12:59] <sky1> cypher1, I already use ubuntu in all my machines, the boss at work makes me use Red hat
[01:00] <Evanlec> hhp21, im sure its in the preferences somewhere
[01:00] <Al-Khouli> soundray, Evanlec: Isn't there another one i can use right now ?
[01:00] <cypher1> sky1, bad luck
[01:00] <sky1> I cant do apt-get install anymore :<
[01:00] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, im not sure, evince won't work?
[01:00] <soundray> Al-Khouli: flpsed, but it's a bit backward
[01:00] <erichj> sky1, what error are you getting when you try it
[01:00] <sky1> apt-get doesnt work in non debian machines
[01:00] <kakun-> hello. i'm having some difficulties installing Ubuntu 7.10 on VMWare. Everything works very, very, slowly.
[01:00] <soundray> hhp21: Tools-Autocorrect-Word Completion
[01:01] <erichj> sky1, were you not aware of that?
[01:01] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: it works , but there's no editing there
[01:01] <kakun-> has anyone experienced similar problems?
[01:01] <BlackCow> ok so my NIC card is a hardware issue not an issue with ubuntu you think?
[01:01] <hhp21> soundray: That's it :) Thanks!
[01:01] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, ifconfig -a gives nothing?
[01:01] <hhp21> Thank you too Evanlec :)
[01:01] <jadacyrus> for some reason i cant hit google.com, i cant ping it either.. but everyone else on my lan can.. (my two friends)...
[01:01] <g0dd3ss> anyone know if conky can make cpu graphs for both on a coreduo
[01:02] <chrono13> I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my Dell 700m laptop today. I performed a full update. My resolution is detected incorrectly, and xorg is using vesa instead of the Intel drivers. How do I change this (I eventually want to have the special effects turned on). I need to change from vesa to intel and correct the resolution (xorg doesn't seem to have any listed resolutions like it normally does).
[01:02] <Evanlec> g0dd3ss, should be able to yes
[01:02] <soundray> BlackCow: sorry, I missed your replies -- use my nick next time. If your card doesn't show in lspci, check if it sits in the slot properly, or try putting it in another.
[01:02] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:02] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, else try: lspci -v | grep Ethernet   and see if anything comes up
[01:02] <BlackCow> ifconfig -a connects me to 127.0.0.1 and says local loopback, so its not going out to my network
[01:02] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, try flpsed
[01:02] <erichj> chrono13, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[01:03] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, actually try scribus
[01:03] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, ifconfig isnt connecting to anything, its merely showing you your current network connections
[01:03] <chrono13> erichj - I did that exact thing, and it says it is already the most current version (already installed). That supprised me.
[01:03] <erichj> hmm
[01:03] <erichj> try restarting x?
[01:03] <chrono13> Did that too.
[01:03] <chrono13> Restarted the computer actually.
[01:03] <soundray> chrono13: then you need to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set it to the intel driver
[01:03] <chrono13> ah
[01:04] <jadacyrus> help me! i can go to any other website just not google.com?!?
[01:04] <chrono13> Thanks, that is what I needed. : )
[01:04] <soundray> BlackCow: no use fiddling with ifconfig if your card doesn't show in lspci
[01:04] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, lspci -v | grep Ethernet     give you anything?
[01:05] <Evanlec> jadacyrus, i had some similar problem earlier today, do u have any firewall installed?
[01:05] <erichj> jadacyrus, check your hosts file to make sure your friends aren't screwing with you
[01:05] <sharpz> lol
[01:05] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, scribus is your answer ;)
[01:05] <jadacyrus> no firewall, and i already checked my hosts file its normal
[01:05] <sharpz> can u ping google.com
[01:05] <jadacyrus> nope
[01:05] <sharpz> timeout>?
[01:05] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: Thank u :) i am going to get it
[01:05] <soundray> !u | sharpz
[01:05] <ubotu> sharpz: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[01:05] <jadacyrus> but my friends can (they are on windows) yea timeout
[01:05] <jadacyrus> 100% packet loss
[01:06] <soundray> sharpz: sorry, I just think this is a funny one.
[01:06] <sharpz> ...
[01:06] <sharpz> lol
[01:06] <MasterShrek> jadacyrus, do you have an ip address?
[01:06] <erichj> ...
[01:07] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[01:07] <BlackCow> ok so lspci -v | grep Ethernet did nothing for me
[01:07] <jadacyrus> of course!
[01:07] <sharpz> jadacyrus: what you're running ubuntu? what dist
[01:07] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, hmm, actually, im trying to open pdf's in scribus and its not workin
[01:07] <jadacyrus> fiesty
[01:07] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, well then your card is not being recognized
[01:07] <soundray> BlackCow: it's a hardware or BIOS issue.
[01:07] <BlackCow> ok, thanks
[01:07] <BlackCow> ohhh shoo
[01:07] <sharpz> maybe it's your ISP
[01:07] <BlackCow> shoot
[01:07] <BlackCow> BIOS
[01:07] <BlackCow> duhhh *Slaps forhead*
[01:07] <BlackCow> thank you
[01:07] <MasterShrek> lol
[01:08] <soundray> BlackCow: don't tell me you've disabled it in the BIOS.
[01:08] <ajchace> I am having some problems with a desktop machine that is running Ubuntu 7.04. It slows down until it is unusable, but after a reboot, it's fine for about 2-3 days. "top" show a load-average of about 0.1, and it's not actively swapping to disk. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:08] <desiarnez6> I cannot connect to IRC from dialup connection at home. Here on highspeed wireless is fine, same computer. tried to telnet from dialup wouldn't work, tried firefox, url did work after long time, traceroute seemed to work fine
[01:08] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: flpsed is not working too
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, help!!
[01:08] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, hmmm
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, it erred on package 926!
[01:08] <leo_rockw> soundray, i think he's too ashamed to answer :-P
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[01:09] <MasterShrek> ajchace, open your system monitor and look for something that is taking alot of processor power or tons of ram to run
[01:09] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:09] <chrisjs169> is there a fast package server that's available?  I'm getting 9090 B/s on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:09] <eric> Seveas, EVERYTHING I just downloaded was not installed!
[01:09] <astro76> !offtopic | Mourad
[01:09] <ubotu> Mourad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:09] <erichj> eric, welcome to dist-upgrade!!!
[01:09] <soundray> Al-Khouli: if you don't mind the installation, you can import PDFs in kword and edit them there.
[01:09] <eric> erichj, it isn't a dist-upgrade
[01:09] <Evanlec> soundray, isnt there a more elegant solution? i would think scribus could do it...
[01:09] <soundray> Al-Khouli: kword tends not to preserve the layout very well, though.
[01:10] <wundaboy> i just switched monitors, and now i cant use any resolution except for 800x600 ... help?
[01:10] <eric> Seveas, is there a way I can install everything that was downloaded so far?
[01:10] <Hilikus> is there a gnome application to admin apache?
[01:10] <eric> Seveas, and more importantly how do I get the rest of the packages I need? it was at 99% too...
[01:10] <ajchace> MasterShrek: does the system monitor show anything that "top" does not? I don't see anything using cpu cycles or an inordinate amount of memory...
[01:10] <soundray> Evanlec: if there is, I haven't found it, and I've searched for hours. That was last year, though.
[01:10] <xenakis> !restricted
[01:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:10] <Seveas> eric: dpkg --configure --pending
[01:10] <Evanlec> soundray, no kidding, wow
[01:10] <MasterShrek> ajchace, i suppose not, it could be some kind of hardware problem, are you running ndiswrapper by chance?
[01:10] <Evanlec> soundray, adobe's keeping a tight grip on it maybe
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, nothing happened
[01:11] <ajchace> MasterShrek: no, I'm not (no wireless interface)
[01:11] <NemesisD> anyone know why wine virtual desktop is all of the sudden restricted to 1 display? I used to run a desktop of 2560x1024 for photoshop cs but for some reason it only goes on one of my displays now and I can't move the virtual desktop at all
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, oh no :(
[01:11] <desiarnez6> Wondering if someone could help me. I cannot connect to IRC from dialup connection.
[01:11] <Seveas> eric, good
[01:11] <Seveas> was it installing packages already or downloading/preconfiguring?
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, how is that good?!? I just downloaded 500MB worth of files that did nothing
[01:11] <ajchace> MasterShrek: Bad hardware sounds feasible, but I would expect to see some sort of errors in "syslog" or "messages"...
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, it was still downloading
[01:12] <eric> Seveas, it failed to download a package due to that error and stopped
[01:12] <Seveas> eric, no need to panic :)
[01:12] <MasterShrek> ajchace, you would think, i wouldnt know how to go about trying to solve the problem tho
[01:12] <eric> Seveas, good *whew*
[01:12] <ajchace> ok, thanks for the suggestions
[01:12] <Seveas> eric: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | grep -v coreutils | grep -v debianutils | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[01:12] <soundray> Al-Khouli: sorry, I may have given you bad info about evince. I just tried it out in the ubuntu beta, and there is no sign of PDF editability.
[01:13] <ajchace> MasterShrek: new RAM is on the way, so I guess we'll find out when it gets here
[01:13] <MasterShrek> editability, nice word =P
[01:13] <kkathman> hmm isnt the idea behind PDF that you cant change it? lol
[01:13] <eric> Seveas, E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on python-minimal
[01:13] <soundray> kkathman: no, it isn't.
[01:13] <Al-Khouli> soundray: But this should be  considered ! pdf files are every where
[01:13] <scguy318> kkathman: not totally, portability and the whole fonts building thing is part of it
[01:13] <Seveas> eric, well well, things go downhill...
[01:13] <soundray> kkathman: why would they have special features for PDF forms otherwise.
[01:13] <MasterShrek> ajchace, sounds like a good idea, could very well be your problem
[01:13] <leo_rockw> pdf = portable document format
[01:13] <Seveas> eric, is that the complete error?
[01:13] <eric> Seveas, yes
[01:14] <Seveas> yay for useful errors :/
[01:14] <ajchace> soundray: I think the "editability" only extends to filling in forms in a pdf
[01:14] <desiarnez6> Well, if anyone is able, I have detailed my problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/257
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, it says all the packages are there though
[01:14] <kkathman> soundray:  forms, I understand of course, but generally pdf's I thought were supposed to be "immutable" unless programmed to be different
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, I thought there was a dpkg command to finish the install
[01:14] <Seveas> eric bot until it at least started the install...
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, I know I accidentally canceled an install but using dpkg I was able to finish it..
[01:15] <leo_rockw> kkathman, then adobe wouldn't be selling adobe acrobat professional
[01:15] <scguy318> eric: sudo dpkg --configure -a or something mebbe
[01:15] <MasterShrek> desiarnez6, does it connect to anything? besides irc?
[01:15] <erichj> scguy318, that just removes the lock
[01:15] <eric> scguy318, doesn't seem to be
[01:15] <erichj> apt-get install -f
[01:15] <kkathman> leo_rockw:  ok well I understand that the user  ... ie the provider of the PDF should be able to create and change but once a pdf is sent out I thought it was immutable
[01:15] <Seveas> eric, sorry, I really have to go to bed, alarm goes of in < 6 hours
[01:16] <desiarnez6> Mastershrek, yes it connects to yahoo chat, AIM, and all the internet fine, only XChat and IRC through Gaim do not work
[01:16] <eric> Seveas, night...
[01:16] <soundray> kkathman: it's an output format, I give you that. The fact remains that they are a pain to edit with anything open source. Adobe Acrobat, on the other hand, is almost like a word processor with some extra features. I'd love to have a free replacement for that.
[01:16] <scguy318> kkathman: not at all, i know Photoshop has limited PDF editing
[01:16] <eric> erichj, it says 0 of every type of package to do anything with
[01:16] <MasterShrek> very strange desiarnez6, tried irssi or another terminal based irc client?
[01:16] <eric> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:16] <leo_rockw> kkathman, no, it can be changed as long as you don't restrict it
[01:16] <kkathman> soundray:  agreed on the replacement for it
[01:17] <erichj> eric, looks like you gotta download everything again
[01:17] <eric> erichj, it will just error on the same package again
[01:17] <eric> erichj, there is no point
[01:17] <noma1> hi, im on the partition manually but i also have windows which i need to assign i got 10gb for ubuntu
[01:17] <erichj> select a different server to download from
[01:17] <leo_rockw> kkathman, soundray has it right. adobe acrobat looks almost like a word processor
[01:17] <kkathman> leo_rockw:  right - i.e. the restriction - alot of people send, for instance, invoices or sales acknowledgements out via PDF as a record, but the recipient cant change it
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, because not everybody has adobe acrobat
[01:18] <desiarnez6> Mastershrek, hmm I will put that down in the tomboy notes to check when i get home, telnet cannot connect to irc either (from the terminal)
[01:18] <eric> erichj, it is the package itself. It was a system package that complained it couldn't be installed because the system dependent on it
[01:18] <ajchace> desiarnez6: have you tried opening a telnet session to port 194 on an IRC server?
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, if they didn't password protect the file, it can be opened and modified w/ adobe acrobat
[01:18] <kkathman> right
[01:18] <kkathman> i.e. a immutable document :)
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, and even if it is password protected, it can be unprotected using unholy methods ;-)
[01:19] <eric> erichj, what happened is I accidentally booted into ubuntu on a virtual machine using that same ubuntu install as the host
[01:19] <desiarnez6> ajchace: I only tried Port 6667, I will try Port 194 tonight to see if it is any better
[01:19] <eric> erichj, damn grub -.-
[01:19] <eric> erichj, and it screwed up all the drivers and quite a few config files
[01:19] <SpiderPig> shalom
[01:19] <SpiderPig> ops wrong chat
[01:20] <ajchace> desiarnez6: I think 6667 is over SSL, so you won't be able to do anything, but you should still be able open a session
[01:20] <eric> erichj, after using recovery mode the drivers seem to have be fixed, and I have repaired any noticeable configuration mishaps
[01:20] <eric> erichj, Seveas advised I reinstall all my packages however
[01:20] <eric> erichj, and thus this problem
[01:21] <eric> erichj, so I have all these packages in cache that are not reinstalled...
[01:21] <s0nix> hi
[01:21] <s0nix> -/+ buffers/cache:     416448    1659428 .......... is this the REAL memory usage ?
[01:21] <desiarnez6> ajchace: Interesting, all I received with port 6667 was "Trying 'IPaddress'..." for several different ips
[01:22] <ajchace> desiarnez6: hmmm, not sure what that's about
[01:22] <bjb1959> I had ubuntu gutsy up and running with the latest driver and compiz-fusion working except that the system would freeze after about 30 minutes of inactivity. I read that disabling dpms in xorg and at the bios level would help but it didn't so I tried to downgrade my driver to 1.0-9755 and that is when the problem started. now I can't get the restricted driver to work.... help
[01:22] <leo_rockw> !gutsy | bjb1959
[01:22] <ubotu> bjb1959: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <eric> forget replacing the packages then
[01:24] <alcaponage> How do I get the next release?
[01:24] <eric> how do I clear apt-cache so that I don't have 500MB of dead packages sitting on my hard drive?
[01:24] <anonymous1> Could anybody help me with sshd_config.  I can't see why my attempted connections just time out.
[01:24] <alcaponage> How will I get Gutsy Gibbon?
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> eric: apt-get clean
[01:24] <alcaponage> Do I have to install ubuntu over again?
[01:24] <kitche> alcaponage: upgrade the distro with update-manager
[01:24] <desiarnez6> ajchase and MasterShrek, I will try your advice for know tonight to see if I can connect, if you guys or anyone for that matter want's to update later, my post is the last one at the Ubuntu XChat forum: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/257 With the same settings, I seem to connect fine by wireless connection, I wonder if my IP could somehow block IRC now, tho on windows i had no problem with Mirc
[01:24] <soundray> !gutsy > alcaponage, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:24] <eric> SlimeyPete, thanks.
[01:25] <astro76> !upgrade > alcaponage
[01:25] <alcaponage> thank you guys
[01:25] <alcaponage> or girls
[01:26] <mrynit> is there a Europa repository for ubuntu?
[01:26] <mrynit> europa eclipse that is
[01:26] <twodeko> anyone having issues with the gutsy beta installer CD?  mine makes it to the default brown background with a mouse and then hangs, and i eventually lose my display
[01:26] <leo_rockw> hey guys. g2g, glhf
[01:27] <leo_rockw> !gutsy > twodeko
[01:27] <twodeko> thanks leo_rockw, wasn't aware
[01:27] <soundray> alcaponage: "guys" is turning into a gender-neutral term. More than once I've heard women/girls address female groups by "listen up guys!"
[01:27] <CapaH> Question, I cannot get Textpad to work properly with Wine --- Can someone recommend to me a good alternative for linux? Note -- must have the ability to use the MOUSE within the text editor, must support syntax highlightning, must support block edit --- etc etc
[01:27] <RAdams> I have Ubuntu Feisty. What's the best way to upgrade GAIM to Pidgin?
[01:28] <desiarnez6> I have to go, thank you for your help. Bye.
[01:28] <cjae> anyway to mend an avi file with ubuntu
[01:28] <alcaponage> soundray: touche
[01:28] <cjae> have two pieces and want to make them whole again
[01:29] <soundray> RAdams: through backports, I think
[01:29] <soundray> !backports > RAdams
[01:29] <astro76> CapaH, text editors is one thing linux does not lack... tried kate?
[01:29] <jrib> CapaH: gedit (Text Editor in menu)
[01:29] <CapaH> Haven't tried kate
[01:29] <frostburn> CapaH, jedit
[01:29] <ajchace> CapaH: Bluefish, if you're using GNOME
[01:29] <alcaponage> I have a question: I want to install atlantis cube, do I put http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy in my source list and type in the code?
[01:30] <Troseph> Anyone wanting to run Ubuntu in a VM on your mac, save your money and install VirtualBox on your intel Mac.
[01:30] <soundray> Troseph: really? I've just bought VMware Fusion, dang!
[01:31] <Troseph> soundray: yeah! I was this close to buying Fusion -->|| and I tried VirtualBox, and success!
[01:31] <Troseph> Saved myself $60
[01:32] <soundray> Troseph: well, that's good to know. Although I do find Fusion amazing. Drag and drop between guest and host, wow.
[01:32] <soundray> Troseph: does virtualbox do that?
[01:32] <Troseph> soundray: Not sure, I just got Ubuntu running. I'll give updates as I try new stuff.
[01:33] <Troseph> And fusion is *amazing* but if you don't have the money, VirtualBox works.
[01:33] <Troseph> It's a bit of a resource hog, you might want 2GB+ ram.
[01:34] <soundray> Troseph: does VirtualBox support amd64 guests?
[01:34] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.
[01:34] <Troseph> soundray: no idea. I just downloaded it about 20 minutes ago.
[01:34] <jrib> !ssh > anonymous1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:34] <soundray> Troseph: yeah, I'm about to get an extra 4G for mine...
[01:34] <mneptok> anonymous1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:34] <kitche> anonymous1: what are you trying to do with it?
[01:35] <Troseph> Soundray: I'm on a MacBook, so only 3G for me. :'(
[01:35] <eggd> i got errorcode 98, adress busy or something when i tried to download a 2nd torrent
[01:35] <anonymous1> I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.
[01:35] <eggd> isnt it possible to download multiple torrents at a time?
[01:35] <soundray> Troseph: four-core Mac Pro here, 32GB max RAM :)
[01:35] <MasterShrek> eggd, yes, i do it all the time
[01:35] <mneptok> anonymous1: how did you install it?
[01:35] <anonymous1> I'm just trying to log into it and I get a timeout.
[01:35] <anonymous1> I used synaptic.
[01:36] <mneptok> anonymous1: is port 22 blocked?
[01:36] <mneptok> anonymous1: did you install the openssh-server package or something else?
[01:36] <anonymous1> I installed openssh-server.
[01:36] <jrib> anonymous1: can you ssh localhost?
[01:37] <anonymous1> I've allowed port 22 and another four-digit port.
[01:37] <anonymous1> How do I ssh localhost?
[01:37] <kitche> anonymous1: exactly like that ssh localhost
[01:37] <agroker> how to switch off the loud system beep under GG (I do not have X yet)?
[01:37] <soundray> agroker: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:38] <anonymous1> Wow, that worked!
[01:38] <anonymous1> I guess that means I have something right.
[01:38] <soundray> anonymous1: the problem is "en route" then
[01:38] <mneptok> anonymous1: so what machien cannot connect?
[01:38] <mneptok> *machine
[01:38] <thsnckisoriginal> try upping the login timeout in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:39] <anonymous1> I tried from SDF.  I'll try from my university server.
[01:39] <anonymous1> Good, point, I set the timeout to 20 seconds following the paranoid advice at the Ubuntu ssh tutorial.
[01:39] <mneptok> anonymous1: is port 22 forwarded?
[01:39] <kitche> if you don't have a certain membership I believe SDF blocks outgoing ssh
[01:39] <anonymous1> This is where you'll yell at me.  I'm directly directed to the internet without a router in between me and the modem.
[01:40] <MasterShrek> anonymous1, i dont know if i would be giving information like that out lol
[01:40] <anonymous1> I've got the highest SDF membership.  They're the only reason I know anything about unix at all!
[01:40] <astro76> anonymous1, not a big deal, linux is secure in that regards :)
[01:40] <astro76> anonymous1, though you are wise tightening your sshd then
[01:40] <anonymous1> In fact, I'm running a fit-PC, which is supposed to be a good choice for a firewall itself...
[01:41] <zibad> hello
[01:41] <zibad> i have a very weird problem with hibernate mode
[01:41] <zibad> the system hibernate well
[01:41] <MasterShrek> zibad hibernate and standby have never worked correctly in linux
[01:41] <zibad> but there is no resume
[01:42] <zibad> its as if i have reboot
[01:43] <kailashamrit> i can't play orig. dvd's (copied ones no problem). is there any solution?
[01:43] <zibad> i found this info in syslog
[01:43] <zibad> swsusp: Error -6 check for resume file
[01:44] <astro76> kailashamrit, have you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[01:44] <zibad> does anyone have an idea pls ?
[01:44] <astro76> !medibuntu | kailashamrit, you can get it here...
[01:44] <ubotu> kailashamrit, you can get it here...: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:44] <kailashamrit> astro76: one sec i will check
[01:45] <mneptok> zibad: is your swap >/= (physical RAM * 2)
[01:45] <mneptok> err ... * 1
[01:45] <zibad> mneptok: not really, the ram is around 700 and the swap is 512
[01:45] <astro76> zibad, that's the prob then
[01:45] <mneptok> zibad: then you can't hibernate
[01:46] <anonymous1> I still get a timeout from two different servers when I set the LoginGraceTime to 120.
[01:46] <zibad> mneptok: is this the error -6 ?
[01:46] <mneptok> zibad: where would you like the information in memory to go when the RAM loses power?
[01:46] <zibad> mneptok: i mean 512 should be sufficient when i have nothing opened no ?
[01:46] <mneptok> zibad: "The Marvelous Land Of Oz" is not an option ;)
[01:47] <astro76> zibad, to hibernate you need swap >= ram, no exceptions, hibernate means ram is copied to disk (in the swap partition) and the system is powered down
[01:47] <pepito> Hi to all, please I need to chat here  "#ubuntu-it-chat" I using (my first time)  Xchat gnome. Can I go here #ubuntu-it-chat?
[01:47] <mneptok> zibad: hibernate is not something Linux does well. and it sure won't do it if it doesn't have swap space to match physical memory.
[01:47] <Frogzoo> !it | pepito
[01:47] <ubotu> pepito: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:48] <astro76> pepito, should just be #ubuntu-it, type /join #ubuntu-it
[01:48] <pepito> si ubotu, ma non so come andarci
[01:48] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install LaTeX on an Ubuntu 6.06LTS server; I've manually installed MediaWiki, but I'm getting errors: http://rafb.net/p/CfqVX784.html
[01:48] <anonymous1> That ubotu is a good idea.
[01:48] <zibad> mneptok: how can i see what is my free space, I think my used space could let me know what swap is needed right ?
[01:48] <jrib> pepito: /join #ubuntu-it
[01:48] <Red_Tide> I have all but converted my brother to Ubuntu but he is having some trouble with sluggish internet I suspect its ipv6 am I correct in suspecting this?
[01:48] <astro76> zibad, type "free -m" to see your memory and swap sizes
[01:48] <mneptok> zibad: you MUST have swap that is equal to or more than physical memory. you don't. game over.
[01:49] <MasterShrek> Red_Tide, could be, but ive never had a problem with it, what kind of machine is it? are you using wireless?
[01:49] <pepito> thank you astro76. I did
[01:49] <kailashamrit> astro76: iin synaptic i can't see the libdvdcss2. so what can i do on medibuntu website?
[01:49] <astro76> kailashamrit, you can either download libdvdcss2 and install it, or there's clear instructions on how to add medibuntu as a repository, then you can install it through synaptic
[01:49] <Red_Tide> MasterShre its hardwired in right now its a Amd socket 939 I think
[01:50] <zibad> mneptok: i am sorry but i have increased my swap to 512 because, previously i could NOT suspend (there was a clear message about that), and now i can, but with this problem in resume. So im not sure the space is the problem
[01:50] <MasterShrek> Red_Tide, it should run fine, what kinda NIC is it? if its newer id suggest trying gutsy
[01:50] <mneptok> zibad: fine. keep trying then.
[01:50] <mneptok> zibad: there is a patron saint of lost causes, if you need help ;)
[01:51] <whiskeytango> ask away
[01:51] <whiskeytango> how do i get my SD slots to work?
[01:52] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.  I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.  I am able to ssh localhost, but when I try from two other servers, I just get timeouts.  The machine is directly connected to the modem and Port 22 is listening.
[01:52] <zibad> mneptok: when i didnt have enough space i couldnt NOT suspend, and i had a message about not having enough space. I have increased the swap, and now i can suspend, but the resume give me swsusp: Error -6 check for resume file
[01:52] <zibad> mneptok: am i more clear now ?
[01:52] <Red_Tide> MasterShre: I don't think the NIC is that new, but thanks for the advice I will have a look at it an area I had not thought to explore
[01:53] <astro76> zibad, I thought we were clear about swap>= ram to hibernate?
[01:53] <mneptok> zibad: yes. and i still don't see why you're talking about suspend when the problem is with hibernate.
[01:53] <zibad> mneptok: sorry i didnt chose the right word, for me suspend and hibernate are the same in my language
[01:54] <zibad> mneptok: my system now hibernate because i have increased my swap space
[01:54] <mneptok> zibad: so what's the problem?
[01:54] <zibad> mneptok: before that it couldnt saying not enough space
[01:54] <astro76> zibad, I see what you're saying, but your system does NOT hibernate because you still can't resume from it
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: my problem is when resuming, its as if i have reboot
[01:55] <mneptok> zibad: you don't have enough swap. i don't care what error messages say.
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: its strange that the system doesnt say not enough space as before :/
[01:55] <mneptok> zibad: your problem is not enough swap. and even if you had it, there's a good chance it wouldn't work.
[01:55] <whiskeytango> Anyone have an idea on why my SD slot doesnt work?
[01:55] <kailashamrit> astro76: thanx.  "With your favourite web browser, go to  http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/.": Forbidden You do not have permission to access this document.
[01:55] <kailashamrit>   Web Server at medibuntu.org
[01:55] <bmk789> whiskeytango: drivers for the reader?
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: it works fine on one of my computer
[01:56] <whiskeytango> Where would i get them for ubuntu?
[01:56] <zibad> mneptok: so it may work
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> whiskeytango: IS it a plug in usb one or internal as in laptop..
[01:56] <bmk789> whiskeytango: if there are drivers there most likely in the repos
[01:56] <astro76> kailashamrit, I honestly prefer to add the repository according to this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[01:56] <threethirty> hello all
[01:56] <zibad> !swsusp
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swsusp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Lets pretend i dont know what repos are.
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Nor do i know how to access them.
[01:57] <zibad> mneptok: i will try extending the swap more, but i doubt its the reason
[01:57] <bmk789> whiskeytango: is the big bank of ubuntu software
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Great, now, where do i find it?
[01:57] <astro76> whiskeytango, in a laptop? many still don't work because they are proprietary, the manufacturers have not released info
[01:58] <bmk789> whiskeytango: first run "lspci" in a terminal to see what type of reader you have
[01:58] <whiskeytango> No, its in my HP PC, internal though, so..
[01:58] <mneptok> whiskeytango: what kind of reader? internal? external? USB? 1394?
[01:58] <kailashamrit> astro76: yes but there is only choice upto ubuntu 7.04, but i'm on 7.10. is ok with the last version?
[01:58] <whiskeytango> Internal
[01:58] <mneptok> whiskeytango: does any flash media work in that reader?
[01:58] <kitche> kailashamrit: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[01:59] <astro76> kailashamrit, yeah I have no idea then... we don't support beta versions in this channel.... try #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <whiskeytango> I only had teh SD card to test, but ive tried 4..
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> whiskeytango: they make a card slot reader that fits a 3/5" floppy slot that can use generic drivers
[01:59] <bmk789> whiskeytango: run "lspci|grep Card"
[01:59] <bmk789> it should say what specific device you have
[01:59] <broken> Quick question, how do i reconfigure my xorg? I thought it was "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver" but for me it says that its not installed.
[01:59] <whiskeytango> Nothing found.
[02:00] <kailashamrit> astro76: thanx a lot!
[02:00] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.  I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.  I am able to ssh localhost, but when I try from two other servers, I just get timeouts.  The machine is directly connected to the modem and Port 22 is listening.  That's the last time I'll paste it; I don't want to spam #ubuntu.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> broken: sudo
[02:00] <mneptok> broken: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:00] <bmk789> maybe its USB even though its internal
[02:00] <kitche> broken: xserver-xorg not xorg-xserver
[02:00] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install LaTeX on an Ubuntu 6.06LTS server; I've manually installed MediaWiki, but I'm getting errors: http://rafb.net/p/CfqVX784.html
[02:00] <broken> gah ok.
[02:00] <bmk789> whiskeytango: "lsusb|grep Card"
[02:00] <mneptok> anonymous1: does your ISP filter low ports?
[02:00] <mneptok> anonymous1: edit the sshd conf file and start it on 7652 or something
[02:00] <whiskeytango> Nothing
[02:01] <astro76> anonymous1, yeah you know since you're directly connected to the Internet anyway, it would be good to change from 22 to a high port anyway
[02:01] <anonymous1> I don't know.  I'll try a high port.
[02:01] <astro76> I use a 5 digit port for mine ;)
[02:01] <astro76> *ports
[02:01] <whiskeytango> Im having the same issue with my chipset video as well, doesnt show up at all in ubuntu.
[02:01] <Zhaz> Anyone good with sound issues? I cant get AC3 to work,,
[02:02] <fluffles> hi people, trying to use Remote Desktop on 7.10, but it seems it listens only on IPv6 ("tcp6" in netstat) and not on IPv4 ("tcp"). is this a firewall issue or what?
[02:02] <Frogzoo> !sound | Zhaz
[02:02] <ubotu> Zhaz: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:02] <astro76> !gutsy | fluffles
[02:02] <ubotu> fluffles: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <fluffles> oops sorry
[02:03] <astro76> fluffles, no worries ;)
[02:03] <threethirty> Does anyone know how add more virtual desktops, two is just not doing it
[02:03] <picard-pwns-kirk> right click the virtual desktop thing
[02:03] <astro76> threethirty, right click, preferences on the desktop switcher
[02:03] <Zhaz> The sound is actually working just not digital sound I only get stereo
[02:04] <b_wolf_007> astro76: can you help me please, can we chat in private window
[02:04] <astro76> b_wolf_007, in the channel please
[02:04] <threethirty> astro76, all that gives me is the way to put the virtul desktops in different rows
[02:05] <astro76> threethirty, you using 3d desktop effects?
[02:05] <astro76> or standard gnome?
[02:05] <threethirty> yeah, in gutsy
[02:05] <johnnyjet> threethirty, not, it also allows you to select more virtual desktops.
[02:05] <astro76> #ubuntu+1
[02:05] <b_wolf_007> astro76, sorry
[02:05] <astro76> or #ubuntu-effects
[02:06] <threethirty> astro76, ty
[02:06] <BlackCow> ok so i dont know if anyone remembers my earlyer problem but this is how it stands, ubuntu server edition 7.04 can see my DFE-530TX+, the eathernet connection works on a lap top, but the computer isnt showing up on my network nor can it ping anything internally or externally
[02:06] <BlackCow> where do I go from here
[02:07] <bmk789> BlackCow: did it get an IP?
[02:07] <astro76> BlackCow, what do you mean it works on a laptop? ubuntu server is installed on a regular machine?
[02:07] <aLeSD> hi I upgraded to 7.10 ... but how to configure compiz fusion ?
[02:07] <bmk789> aLeSD: #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <BlackCow> the eathernet works on a laptop seperatly
[02:08] <aLeSD> ok
[02:08] <BlackCow> but when i plug into the server the basetation isnt connecting to it
[02:08] <BlackCow> and assigning it an IP
[02:08] <superkirbyartist> Why does my computer hang (ie. clock which display seconds stops moving, mouse stops moving, keyboard doesn't respond) so often?
[02:08] <bmk789> BlackCow: try running "sudo dhclient eth0"
[02:08] <SpudDogg> What is the best way to find out the GRUB name for a partition?  i.e. (hdx,x)
[02:08] <BlackCow> ok, and just to make sure you can run a server behind a router right? as long as you have the correct ports open
[02:09] <anonymous1> I still get timeouts from the two servers.
[02:09] <anonymous1> It also looks like /var/log/auth.log doesn't show any attempted login.
[02:09] <SpudDogg> !grub
[02:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:09] <Leovenous> Okay I'm annoyed.... getting the grub 18 error....
[02:09] <bmk789> BlackCow: yes
[02:09] <astro76> BlackCow, yeah you have to forward ports
[02:09] <Leovenous> The forums say its an issue with the HD setting
[02:09] <BlackCow> right, ok im going to try that thing
[02:10] <Leovenous> None of the workarounds in the threads have... worked.
[02:10] <superkirbyartist> Why does my computer hang (ie. clock which display seconds stops moving, mouse stops moving, keyboard doesn't respond) so often?
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> Especially noting I'm using "stable" 7.04
[02:11] <BlackCow> thank you, sudo dhclient eth0 worked
[02:11] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: sounds like a hardware problem or kernel panic
[02:11] <b_wolf_007> EminX: can you give me a favour
[02:11] <BlackCow> ill have to remember that
[02:11] <Hilikus> can someone help me with this warning when starting apache
[02:11] <Hilikus> [Tue Oct 02 20:10:20 2007]  [warn]  The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/wiki at line 1 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias.
[02:11] <astro76> superkirbyartist, yeah probably a piece of hardware.. how long does it hang?
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> bmk789: yes, during the GUI.
[02:11] <Hilikus> there are no other aliases in there referencing that directory
[02:11] <EminX> b_wolf_007: I'll try, ask me
[02:11] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: could it be overheating?
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> It hangs at random times and I cannot use the computer anymore without restarting.
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> bmk789: installed two cheap fans, no help.
[02:12] <usr13> Are ati drivers available in some repository some place?
[02:12] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: have you monitored temps?
[02:12] <datakid> how can I clear some room on my boot partition? I need to clear up 111K :)
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> bmk789 how do we do that?
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> Is there a gnome-applet?
[02:13] <Leovenous> Depending on how I set CMOS I either get that error 18 or I get an endless loop of "Grub"
[02:13] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors sensors-detect
[02:13] <b_wolf_007> EminX: I'm trying to use desktop effects and have problems with graphic drivers
[02:13] <astro76> superkirbyartist, sometimes you can just check in the bios too
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, you running restricted 3d drivers?
[02:14] <superkirbyartist> astro76, have to.
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, what card?
[02:14] <usr13> !find ati 7.10
[02:14] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters (and 140 others)
[02:14] <superkirbyartist> nvidia.
[02:14] <bmk789> Leovenous: try reinstalling grub
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, exactly which one? :p
[02:15] <usr13> !find ati
[02:15] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters (and 140 others)
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> astro76: Geforce somethingish, 256MB of RAM, costs 100$.
[02:15] <Leovenous> Can I do just that step with the ubuntu-server install disk?
[02:15] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone got their "export to external monitor" key to work ?
[02:15] <bmk789> Leovenous: i believe so
[02:15] <astro76> superkirbyartist, if it's not a heat issue, the basics of hardware troubleshooting is to remove stuff until the problem goes away
[02:15] <Leovenous> Or do I need grub by itself
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> astro76, bmk789, cannot find sensors-detect
[02:16] <bmk789> Leovenous: it seems your grub install is either incorrectly configured or corrupt
[02:16] <datakid> how can I clear some room on my boot partition? I need to clear up 111K :)
[02:16] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: then its just lm-sensors, my mistake
[02:16] <bmk789> datakid: uninstall previous kernels?
[02:16] <astro76> datakid, uninstall old kernel versions?
[02:16] <datakid> ok cheers
[02:16] <superkirbyartist> ...nice magic trick, what was it supposed to do?
[02:17] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: after thats installed, run "sudo sensors-detect" and basically answer yes to everything, when thats done just run "sensors" and it should give system temps
[02:17] <SpudDogg> Is it possible to boot ubuntu from a SATA drive, and windows from an IDE drive?
[02:17] <kitche> SpudDogg: yes of course
[02:18] <Troseph> Check it out: Ubuntu in VirtualBox in on MacOS http://flickr.com/photos/troseph/sets/72157602243564005/
[02:18] <datakid> bmk789, astro76 how would I do that? Synaptic only tells me one is installed?
[02:18] <SpudDogg> kitche, how do i find out the grub names (hdx,x) for that windows partition?
[02:18] <astro76> datakid, you searched for "linux"
[02:18] <superkirbyartist> Why is there a Maxim?  Is this Linuxxx now?
[02:18] <kitche> SpudDogg: fdisk -l usually windows parition is always ,0 you have to figure out the hdX part
[02:18] <bmk789> SpudDogg: it depends which is set as master in bios
[02:19] <astro76> datakid, I guess you made your /boot too small
[02:19] <mneptok> datakid: if you have only one kernel installed and you're out of space, your /boot is too small or you need to stop storing mp3s there.
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg: the few times I have tried mixing ide and sata drives in the same box.. it became rather sluggish like the system was slowed down by adding the ide
[02:19] <superkirbyartist> Now what?
[02:19] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: what did you just run?
[02:19] <superkirbyartist> sensors-detectt
[02:20] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: then "sensors" should give you the temps
[02:20] <datakid> astro76 - yes, I did, and there's only one listed, but when I boot there are >2 listed in the grub boot menu
[02:20] <austin_> does anyone know how to open a .rar file?
[02:20] <Troseph> urar
[02:20] <Frogzoo> austin_: unrar
[02:21] <julien_> apt-get install rar
[02:21] <frylock^> i just installed ubuntu, i plug in my USB wifi adapter, it recognizes my network, however hangs forever when trying to connect to it. i started out with wep, now i removed encryption altogether, problem persists.
[02:21] <SpudDogg> kitche, fdisk shows the ntfs partition on hda1 (so partition 0, i understand that much) but out of the three HDDs in this computer, I don't know how to find out what the hdx would be
[02:21] <Pelo> austin_, sudo apt-get unrar and then just right click the file and extract
[02:21] <superkirbyartist> Thanks.  +37C, playing a ZOEgirl video on RealPlayer.
[02:21] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow, yea, this is only temporary...I dont use windoes
[02:21] <SpudDogg> windows
[02:21] <austin_> thanks
[02:21] <superkirbyartist> Went up to 38C.
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> 39C... oh no, it will blow up!
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> 38
[02:22] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: that should let you make sure your proc stay within its stable temps, what CPU?
[02:22] <kitche> SpudDogg: would be hd0 then
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> ZOE left and now it's 33C.
[02:22] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  your cpu temp ?  laptop or desktop ?
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> Desk with two fans.  Notice how much heat RealPlayer makes.
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <SpudDogg> kitche, /boot/grub/device.map shows (hd0) is my /dev/sda
[02:23] <astro76> !ops | pompillo
[02:23] <ubotu> pompillo: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:23] <superkirbyartist> Goes up 5C when playing video.
[02:23] <josh__> hey all
[02:23] <kitche> SpudDogg: well then hd1 maybe
[02:23] <josh__> how can i give myself full rights for /var/www?
[02:23] <jimmacdonald> ok here's a stupid question ... How would you folks go about logging a user off remotely? I know how I would do it. (I am a solaris admin) but I want to see if there is something better.
[02:23] <SpudDogg> kitche, tried that :(  and hd2-7
[02:23] <erichj> josh, you shouldn't
[02:23] <josh__> currently, i cant create folders etc in the folder
[02:23] <superkirbyartist> Is there a gnome-applet (or one I can make) that will tell me the temperature?
[02:24] <SpudDogg> kitche, but i dont know if i had the partition at 0 or 1
[02:24] <erichj> josh, create a symlink to /var/www from your home directory
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, there's one for gnome-panel
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> GO FIREFOX 2.0.0.7 BOO FIREFOX 2.0.0.3
[02:24] <the_chocobo> can anyone tell me how to install java?
[02:24] <josh__> ok...
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> CoasterMaster, what's it called?
[02:24] <PThomas> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu-server in CommandLine, is there anyway for the 'terminal' to be fit to the screen?
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> !overheat
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overheat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> !temp
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <astro76> the_chocobo, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:24] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, my desktop has many fans in it and the temp goes up to 60C on a hot day, the only time I ever go below 40C is in the morning if the case is open and I left the windows open on a cold night
[02:24] <erichj> the_chocobo, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[02:24] <the_chocobo> thanks
[02:24] <LjL> !msgthebot
[02:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:24] <kitche> SpudDogg: hmm then something is odd if grub can't detect your drive
[02:24] <mneptok> the_chocobo: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, Weather Report.  Right click on a panel and select Add to Panel
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, why does mine hang so much?
[02:25] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, might have to do with the cpu you have
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Silly, that's the city whether!
[02:25] <frylock^> i just installed ubuntu, i plug in my USB wifi adapter, it recognizes my network, however hangs forever when trying to connect to it. i started out with wep, now i removed encryption altogether, problem persists. rebooted pc and router, problem persits. i googled, many complaints but no answers.
[02:25] <arakthor> superkirbyartist: are you overclocking your machine?
[02:25] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, ohhhhhhhhh you're talking internal temp...you just said temperature
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Arakthor, no need to, it's 1.8GHz.
[02:26] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, and it is quite possible you are not reading the cpu temp,  I get 38 on case and on hdd but never on cpu
[02:26] <superkirbyartist> Yes, CoasterMaster.
[02:26] <CoasterMaster> !imsensors
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imsensors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <SpudDogg> kitche, that's what i thought.  i just checked /boot/grub/menu.lst and i had it set to (hd2,0) then at the grub menu i tried (hd1-7,0-3)  and got nothing.  is there a grub command i can run to list all the partitions?
[02:26] <bmk789> !lmsensors
[02:26] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:26] <LjL> !info lm-sensors
[02:26] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.1-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 489 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[02:26] <kitche> SpudDogg: hmm not sure might want to look it up
[02:26] <SpudDogg> kitche, rgr.  thanks man
[02:26] <PThomas> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu-server in CommandLine, is there anyway for the 'terminal' to be fit to the screen?
[02:26] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  sensors applets ,  it's in synaptic you can access it from the add to pannel menu when right clicking the pannel
[02:26] <kitche> I really wish my computer had sensors in it :(
[02:27] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, this might be helpfull to you  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: F11
[02:27] <Pelo> kitche, are you sure it doesn'T ?
[02:27] <PThomas> mneptok: ?
[02:27] <PThomas> that just adds ~
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: you want gterm to be fullscreen?
[02:27] <cafuego> kitche: You cna probably play with hddtemp even if you don't have cpu or chipset sensors.
[02:27] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, it's "PCI Card".  And it goes up with graphic tasks (video).
[02:27] <superkirbyartist> 28 right now.
[02:27] <kitche> Pelo: yep I m sure my temp is -238 degrees :) the bios doesn't have sensor information either
[02:27] <PThomas> mneptok: it's just command line, theres no desktop.
[02:27] <erichj> i think he means tty1
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: i don't think i understand what you want
[02:28] <frylock^> April 4th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
[02:28] <frylock^> Too bad getting WiFi to work with Ubuntu is such a flipping hassle. Thats the deal-breaker right there. My days of hassling commands and special case stuff are long-over. (In fact I think they went out the door just about the time the 486DX 33 was no longer the hottest thing going. Wake me up when Linux works with WiFi.
[02:28] <mneptok> PThomas: is the dispaly off center or not taking up the full screen? change the monitor geometry using its menus.
[02:28] <bmk789> frylock^: what device?
[02:28] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  that's the temp of your video card then, not the cpu
[02:28] <PThomas> mneptok: what menus?
[02:28] <pike_> frylock^: i have zero issues with wifi on various cards
[02:28] <arakthor> frylok: get a non-broadcom card
[02:28] <PThomas> mneptok: I just want the CL full screen
[02:28] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, it would probably go up even more if you pay a very graphicaly intense game
[02:28] <arakthor> frylok: I know what you run, and broadcom + linux == unhappy times
[02:28] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust the monitor
[02:29] <cafuego> arakthor: Sorry, my broadcom works hassle free and has done so for a good 12 months.
[02:29] <erichj> arakthor, my broadcom cards all work out of the box with gutsy
[02:29] <PThomas> mneptok: It's only with server, my xp on my other partition fits to screen.
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> my broadcom is fine
[02:29] <arakthor> haven't tried with gutsy, just got an ew lappie with an atheros
[02:29] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust. the. monitor.
[02:29] <macd> does ubuntu-server use fb in console? his terminal might be centered in the screen
[02:29] <Error403> I don't have any trouble with my toshiba laptop's wifi.
[02:29] <mneptok> frylock^: please don't troll like that
[02:30] <the_chocobo> okay, it keeps telling me to insert the disk 'ubuntu 7.04 _feisty tawn_ - release i386
[02:30] <frylock^> arakthor, pike_, bmk789: i use edimax
[02:30] <PThomas> mneptok: Why would I adjust the monitor, if desktop and xp fit to screen, but cl doesnt.
[02:30] <pike_> the_chocobo: when installing software?
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, what's wrong with that?
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> BTW, GFX card is AGP.
[02:30] <the_chocobo> yes
[02:30] <erichj> broadcom 440 ethernet and 4318 wireless work with no problems for me
[02:30] <Pelo> the_chocobo,  so insert it
[02:30] <mneptok> PThomas: because WINDOWS IS NOT LINUX?!
[02:30] <cafuego> PThomas: Because that's how you fix it. *sigh*
[02:30] <macd> PThomas, b/c its running at a different resolution.
[02:30] <cafuego> PThomas: Difference video mode, needs adjustment. That's just how it is.
[02:30] <PThomas> So how do I change resolution in CL?
[02:30] <rav> does anyone know how to enable direct rendering in a intel chipset? or a  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device to be EXACT.
[02:30] <pike_> the_chocobo: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put a # in front of the cd entry or remove it in synaptic then sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <the_chocobo> i never got a disk
[02:30] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust the monitor settings. case closed.
[02:31] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  nothing wrong with it ,  I'm just saying that  it's not your cpu temp you are talking about , which is what ppl usualy refer to when they speak of their comp's temp , as I did when I talked about mine
[02:31] <cafuego> PThomas: You don't, you tweak the controls on the monitor to fix up alignment and/or size.
[02:31] <pike_> the_chocobo: you dont need it
[02:31] <Pelo> the_chocobo, how did you install ubuntu ?
[02:31] <macd> I guess you could use fb to change the resolution, but just seems silly on server
[02:31] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, I'm trying to install gkrellm
[02:31] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, best of luck,  I didn't realy care much for it myself
[02:31] <pike_> macd: not silly. l337  ;p
[02:31] <thiebaude> im having trouble running briquolo
[02:31] <the_chocobo> Pelo: my friend let me borrow a burned disk
[02:31] <anonymous1> the_chocobo, you can also download the ISO image file and mount it in /cdrom/  I had to do this because I don't have a CD-ROM drive!
[02:31] <frylock^> mneptok: sorry about the trolling. i just browsed the web for the same problem and found http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html#comment-10595, that comment pretty much reflected my moods
[02:32] <cafuego> PThomas: it probably even has an auto-align function.
[02:32] <superkirbyartist> Why not?
[02:32] <PThomas> cafuego: I'm on a laptop, there is none.
[02:32] <pike_> frylock^: wpa is still a bit more of a hassel
[02:32] <rav> anyone, know how to enable direct rendering?
[02:32] <frylock^> pike_: i'm talking about basic connection, no wpa, even no wep
[02:32] <JpSSgtRock> Hi, all
[02:32] <erichj> rav, what driver for intel are you using?
[02:32] <Error403> okay, I have a hauppage pvr-150 tuner and I can't get it to work with, say, irw until I type in the console:: sudo pckg-reconfigure lirc - Is there a way to make  lirc work correctly at startup?
[02:32] <JpSSgtRock> Is this the right forum for a question about cupsys?
[02:32] <rav> how would i go about checking that?
[02:32] <Pelo> the_chocobo,   menu > system > admin > software sources,  first tab I beleive,  uncheck the cd at the bottom ,  while you are in there check all the other boxes on the first tab and the backport one in the third tab,  then try to do your install again
[02:33] <frylock^> pike_: the router is tp-link xr something, and the adapter is edimax. works fine with windoze (plug&play)
[02:33] <yell0w> !ask > JpSSgtRock
[02:33] <mneptok> frylock^: i'll give you a million dollars if you guess the secret word. you get one guess. no hints. and if you fail, it's *your* fault for "being stupid." it's not *my* fault for being ridiculously secretive.
[02:33] <erichj> rav open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:33] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, this is the ubuntu channel , try asking if we can't anser we'll try and direct you to where they can
[02:33] <mneptok> frylock^: this is the sentiment you are parroting
[02:33] <erichj> should fix you up
[02:33] <thiebaude> i have a question about briquolo, if anyone could help
[02:33] <superkirbyartist> This is ugly!
[02:33] <JpSSgtRock> OoooK.
[02:34] <anonymous1> Thanks for the instantaneous help:)  This looks like a job for the forums and some time.
[02:34] <pike_> frylock^: never heard of that card sorry.  most any linksys or whatever youd buy in a best buy or radioshack will work
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> I've got a problem with my pagesize.
[02:34] <rav> it says i have the newest version
[02:34] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, what do you want to do ? monitor your temps ?   there are pannel aps to do that
[02:34] <pike_> frylock^: there is always ndiswrapper
[02:34] <mneptok> frylock^: wireless does not work with a lot of cards because vendors *refuse* to release specs. this is not a technical problem with Linux. it's a social problem with wireless manufacturers.
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> CUPS inists that it's set to letter, but it sees the printable area as A4.
[02:34] <superkirbyartist> Yes, Pelo.
[02:34] <rav> glxinfo | grep direct gives me a big fat NO
[02:34] <frylock^> pike_: nicely enough, the usb is straight away recognized and it also picked up the network. connecting is the problem.
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> I've changed /etc/papersize from 'a4' to 'letter'.
[02:34] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, you need to check in both cups and in the app you are printing from
[02:35] <mneptok> JpSSgtRock: what app?
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> I've also re-re-checked that CUPS is set to letter.
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> Right now, I'm just trying to print the test page correctly.
[02:35] <erichj> rav, give me a sec then. think you need to run dpkg --reconfigure, just a sec
[02:35] <frylock^> pike_: yes, i've read about ndiswrapper, what is that; and does it come by default. i'm obviously in a bit of catch-22 here, i can't apt-get anything i don't have since i don't have network, thus no internet.
[02:35] <pike_> frylock^: ive been amazed recently by the stuff ubuntu detects but that does sound like a driver problem
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> The test page says:
[02:35] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, if the test page is correct check in the settings in the app, and check the printer settings from the app
[02:35] <rav> ok, thanks man.
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> Page Size 8.25x10.38 in
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> The Test page is incorrect.
[02:36] <pike_> frylock^: ndiswrapper basically allows you to use the windows driver for your card in linux
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: do you have PCMCIA/Cardbus or PCI in that machine?
[02:36] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  please don'T use the enter key for punctuation
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: yes, there is a wired network card
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: unused of course
[02:36] <pike_> frylock^: best off asking someone else here though ive never used it
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: spare PCI slot?
[02:36] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  also try this,  delete the printer and install it again selecting the correct page size when you install
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: i bet i do
[02:36] <eggd> i have a iso file that is splitted up into ~40 rar-files. how do i open it?
[02:36] <superkirbyartist> Later.
[02:36] <kevinO> how do i add write premissions to a perticular folder?
[02:36] <JpSSgtRock> OK, hang on.
[02:36] <frylock^> let me take a look
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: you in the US?
[02:37] <Pelo> eggd,  just extract the  r00 file
[02:37] <jrib> !rar > eggd (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:37] <pike_> eggd: sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar e file.rar.001
[02:37] <usr13> kevinO: chmod +w foldername
[02:37] <Pelo> kevinO,   sudo chmod 777 /path/folder
[02:37] <frylock^> mneptok: got two pci slots available, but i'm outside us
[02:37] <mneptok> frylock^: where?
[02:37] <kevinO> pelo thanks
[02:37] <mneptok> ah, Israel
[02:37] <frylock^> mneptok: israel. you think a pci-based wireless adapter would do the trick?
[02:38] <erichj> rav, type sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <gregorovius> I want to install RKhunter, and it needs a mail transport agent, but I don't want to have exim running all the time. anybody knows of a really minimal and light MTA?
[02:38] <usr13> kevinO: Pelo: Told you how to give rwx permissions
[02:38] <PThomas> Okay, maybe I'm just being a n00b, but I still don't understand what you are talking about.
[02:38] <mneptok> frylock^: only one that is supported. give me a URL to your favorite online hardware vendor.
[02:38] <Rodya> does anyone know of a graphical web browser that is really small and lightweight? (basically what I am looking for is the ability to browse the web and nothing else, small, fast, not a lot of features)
[02:38] <usr13> kevinO: Pelo: Told you how to give rwx permissions to ALL
[02:38] <mneptok> frylock^: i'll find you a well-supported card that will "just work"
[02:38] <pike_> Rodya: dillo or in terminal do links2 -g  thats cli but it allows mouse and is graphical with the -g
[02:39] <mneptok> frylock^: for not *too* many shekels ;)
[02:39] <rav> dkpg not found?
[02:39] <kevinO> usr13 to everyone?
[02:39] <Pelo> rav,   dpkg
[02:39] <frylock^> mneptok: ;) let me look for the wifi adapters, i don't think you'll be able to browse in the holy language
[02:39] <erichj> yeah
[02:39] <usr13>  kevinO:  To all
[02:39] <Pelo> kevinO, try 755 instead
[02:39] <PThomas> How am I suppose to make CommandLine fit to screen?
[02:39] <SpudDogg> !grub
[02:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <usr13>  kevinO:  To user owner others
[02:39] <mneptok> frylock^: you sure? i may be a sabra. ;)
[02:40] <Rodya> thanks pike_ that works great
[02:40] <pike_> PThomas: sure its not just monitor setting? try the adjustmenst on monitor
[02:40] <PThomas> pike_: It's a laptop, I don't have much only brightness.
[02:40] <slimjimslim> hi, my x windows is broken (probably b/c of a new graphics driver) and i get, from `ps -A`, a process called XKeepsCrashing, does anyone know what that means?
[02:41] <rav> it says stuff about --help and --dhelp and bla
[02:41] <Pelo> slimjimslim, try doing a forum search for the error msg you get   www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:41] <DoYouKnow> Anyone know if James Burgett is doing anything in the chicagoland area?
[02:41] <frylock^> mneptok: i think you'll find it somewhat unrich: https://www.misradia.co.il/application/product_viewRegular.asp?Pid=202&Group=2
[02:41] <Pelo> rav,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:41] <pike_> PThomas: xgamma -gamma 1.5  or 1 to return to normal brightness basically 1 is normal and 1.2 2 3 whatever is brighter
[02:41] <darthc0da> hey, I'm thinking of getting ubuntu for a new thinkpad x30, which has a 1.2 ghz pentium 3 and 256 mb ram
[02:41] <DoYouKnow> relating to refurbishing PCs with ubuntu and giving them to older people, etc.
[02:41] <darthc0da> how fast would it run?
[02:41] <rav> Ok, it poped up
[02:42] <pike_> darthc0da: xubuntu should run well on that
[02:42] <PThomas> pike_: I'm not trying to change brightness, just saying thats the only shortcut keys I have for the display.
[02:42] <Pelo> darthc0da, that's close to the minimum
[02:42] <pike_> PThomas: lol oh
[02:42] <darthc0da> ok
[02:42] <darthc0da> do you know if there'd be a better distro?
[02:42] <darthc0da> (or is that not for a ubuntu irc channel lol)
[02:42] <mneptok> frylock^: todah raba
[02:42] <JpSSgtRock> After re-adding the printer, the CUPS test page is still set to A4 instead of letter.
[02:42] <Pelo> darthc0da, xubuntu was suggested
[02:42] <PThomas> pike_: Yea, I just want to have command line in a full window, rather than just a 640x468 box maybe?
[02:42] <erichj> rav, just answer the questions
[02:42] <soundray> darthc0da: I run xubuntu on a slower machine than that, and it's fine
[02:42] <darthc0da> ok
[02:42] <usr13>  kevinO:  1=r 2=w 4=x  1+2=3 1+4=5 2+4=6 1+2+4=7
[02:43] <pike_> PThomas: i see it is in center of screen?
[02:43] <darthc0da> thx
[02:43] <PThomas> pike_: Yes.
[02:43] <frylock^> mneptok: toda leha
[02:43] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  check all the propertie tabs,  some of my printers have more then one place for settingthe paper size
[02:43] <rav> what video card driver should i select for a intel chipset?
[02:43] <JpSSgtRock> OK, will doublecheck.  This is an HP3210 if that helps.
[02:43] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  as an after thought , you mean the test page from cups right  ? not the test page for the printer
[02:43] <erichj> which chipset do you have?
[02:44] <blahblahblah> anyone know how to make "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" automatically start when the computer boots up
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> Yes the test page from CUPS.
[02:44] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, it doesn'T help me , but it might be worth a search in the fourm
[02:44] <pike_> PThomas: not sure what the issue is but adding vga=0x317 to the kernel line in menu.lst and reboot may work. sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst look for the kernel   /boot/etc and just add the vga to end of the line
[02:44] <soundray> blahblahblah: 'echo bcm43x | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[02:44] <pike_> PThomas: that doesnt have to be hex
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> The forum led me to /etc/papersize.
[02:44] <rav> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device  that one
[02:44] <soundray> blahblahblah: forgot one x, but you get the gist
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> That's why I'm here now.  :)
[02:44] <mneptok> frylock^: ugh. it *is* a mess ... balagan. look here - http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[02:44] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, got it
[02:45] <blahblahblah> soundray: would i have to keep putting my password in as well
[02:45] <guru> there seems to be an issue with python2.5 and freevo - how do i uninstall python2.5 and revert to python2.4 (including the older version of pygame which works with freevo)?
[02:45] <mneptok> frylock^: use that to find a PCI card with good MadWiFi support, and Ubuntu will be happy.
[02:45] <erichj> rav i810
[02:45] <Pelo> guru,  try with synaptic
[02:45] <soundray> blahblahblah: no. /etc/modules contains a list of modules to be loaded at startup. No questions asked
[02:45] <Pelo> later folks
[02:45] <guru> if i do 'apt-get remove python2.5' it attempts to remove all packages which depend on python
[02:45] <PThomas> pike_: Is it fine if its '....ro quiet splash vga=0x317' ?
[02:46] <pike_> guru: any reason not to leave 2.5 and 2.4?
[02:46] <pike_> phoenixz: yep
[02:46] <Pelo> guru, there is a way in synaptic to install previous versions of a package ,  just click around and you'll find it
[02:46] <frylock^> mneptok: USB adapters are no good?
[02:46] <SpudDogg> kitche, i got grub to get past the menu, but now i get a hard lockup with just "Starting up..." on my screen.  keyboard is locked, everything is locked.  any ideas?  i found out though that my windows partition is on (hd1,0)
[02:46] <mneptok> frylock^: PCI with MadWiFi support are *far* better
[02:46] <guru> pike_: yes, scroll up...freevo does not work with python2.5
[02:46] <blahblahblah> soundray: thanks
[02:46] <rav> ok, how much mem should i give the card? in KB
[02:46] <mneptok> rav: 0
[02:46] <blahblahblah> soundray: would that work for any user signed in?
[02:47] <pike_> rav: just let it autodetect usually
[02:47] <volantares> hi all
[02:47] <rav> ok, and if it isnt good, i can always comeback and give it more later right?
[02:47] <jrib> PThomas: you need to press the right button on your keyboard so it stretches, mine was fn-f5 or change res like pike_ suggests
[02:47] <volantares> ikonia: hi, if you're there
[02:47] <pike_> PThomas: sorry that yep was for you :)
[02:47] <soundray> blahblahblah: anything in /etc is system-wide. Modules are loaded before any login comes up.
[02:47] <frylock^> mneptok: are you certain that it's not a config thing? ubuntu recognizes right away the usb adapter and the existance of the networks. my router can pick the adapter up too, it just says "Status = Disconnected"
[02:47] <D4N`> yo
[02:47] <blahblahblah> soundray: i appreciate it.. thanks
[02:47] <erichj> rav, for driver you should actually put intel
[02:47] <erichj> rav if that is available
[02:48] <jrib> !tty > PThomas (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:48] <PThomas> restarting
[02:48] <mneptok> frylock^: i don't use or recommend USB adapters. they are almost universally crap and undependable.
[02:48] <PThomas> jrib: thanks
[02:48] <volantares> unreliable?
[02:48] <mneptok> frylock^: *must* eat. the MadWiFi compatability page will guide you right. l'hit!
[02:49] <frylock^> ciao
[02:49] <soundray> mneptok: anecdotal, I know, but I use a wireless USB device routinely on my desktop without trouble for about a year, everyday heavy use. I had an Atheros PCI card die on me.
[02:49] <jacob_> how do i play *.wav files?
[02:49] <soundray> jacob_: gnome-open file.wav
[02:49] <Tmcarr> I have an GeForce FX 5200 Video card, does anyone have any instructions for installing to correct drivers for it, and if it will increase resolution?
[02:49] <rav> ok, i answered all the questions, so should i restart or ?
[02:50] <mneptok> !worksforme > soundray
[02:50] <mneptok> :P
[02:50] <usr13> jacob_: play *.wav
[02:50] <erichj> rav hit catrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[02:50] <mneptok> Tmcarr: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:50] <erichj> ctrl
[02:50] <pike_> rav: and pray
[02:50] <erichj> yeah
[02:50] <erichj> lol
[02:50] <soundray> mneptok: I could have fired that at you
[02:50] <Tmcarr> do I just put that into a terminal?
[02:50] <mneptok> soundray: what?
[02:50] <guru> i don't see a way to revert to a previous version
[02:51] <soundray> mneptok: !worksforme
[02:51] <PThomas> Thanks, it works now.
[02:51] <mneptok> soundray: PCI wireless cards is !works_in_Canonical's_hardware_certification_lab though ;)
[02:51] <Tmcarr> Wont let me use that command, says invalid access
[02:52] <erichj> hmm rav should have been back by now
[02:52] <soundray> mneptok: can you point me to a source of that information?
[02:52] <mikebot> DOes ayone here know about using latex in ubuntu?
[02:52] <mneptok> soundray: sure. i just told you.
[02:52] <Tmcarr> "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:52] <Tmcarr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:52] <Tmcarr> "
[02:52] <soundray> mikebot: yeah, a bit
[02:52] <h1st0> !latex > mikebot
[02:52] <mikebot> soundray: I'm getting this error when I type 'latex blah.tex': dvips: Font ecrm1728 at 8000 not found; scaling 600 instead.
[02:52] <soundray> mneptok: I was thinking of a URL, perhaps?
[02:53] <gogeta> zzzzzzzzz
[02:53] <erichj> Tmcarr, sudo dpkg configure -a
[02:53] <mneptok> soundray: we don't publish our partner's private certification data
[02:53] <mneptok> *partners'
[02:53] <volantares> if i want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, what's the best way to partition things? (I can dedicate a IDE drive to each)
[02:53] <rav> no dice, i hit the code and it still says no direct render enabled. should I do the code again, and select intel video driver?
[02:53] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:53] <erichj> rav, yeah
[02:53] <gogeta> volantares the ubuntu install can handel that
[02:53] <soundray> mneptok: in other words, that lab evidence is no better than mine.
[02:54] <SerenadedAbyss> woot!! Ubuntu...
[02:54] <gogeta> anyway you like
[02:54] <guru> whenever i attempt to remove python2.5 synaptic tells me that i have to remove several other packages which i use - i don't see a way to easily revert to python2.4 without uninstalling everything then reinstalling
[02:54] <SerenadedAbyss> is soo not my style...
[02:54] <rav> and it has nothing to do with how much mem the card has?
[02:54] <erichj> rav if that doesn't work than i am not sure, my laptop uses intel 945 but it does direct render
[02:54] <volantares> gogeta: except the way i did originally.. but that's ok.. hmm ok
[02:54] <soundray> mikebot: I can't imagine that being right. Why would calling latex invoke dvips?
[02:54] <erichj> rav, your bios controls that so don't worry about it
[02:54] <gogeta> what?
[02:54] <mneptok> soundray: no, i just can't show you specific internal data. but not one person in this office would use or recommend a USB adapter based on our experiences.
[02:54] <soundray> mikebot: what output format are you aiming for?
[02:55] <kst> volantares get 1 winxp partition, 1 linux partition, 1 /home parition, 1 swap partition and MAYBE 1 partition to exchange files between win and linux although both sys can read both NTFS and EXT3 (with drivers)
[02:55] <eggd> How do I open splitted rar files?
[02:55] <gogeta> volantares why all that
[02:55] <soundray> eggd: point unrar-free to the first file
[02:55] <mikebot> soundray: pdf, sorry, that's from 'dvipdf'
[02:55] <kst> eggd open the first one, should load the others automatically i think
[02:55] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:55] <gogeta> volantares go to manul slect the dirve you whant linux on or wanna resize the installer handels all this
[02:55] <kst> nice nickname btw eggd :)
[02:55] <eggd> kst: it didn't
[02:56] <kst> gd? :p
[02:56] <soundray> mikebot: is using 'pdflatex file.tex' an option?
[02:56] <eggd> fett gd.
[02:56] <erichj> slimjimflim, ubuntu won't fall for your tricks
[02:56] <mikebot> soundray: If it works, sure, let me try thtat.
[02:56] <jrib> eggd: read the link from ubotu
[02:56] <gogeta> yes it can even resize windows
[02:56] <slimjimflim> erichj, huh?
[02:56] <volantares> kst and gogeta: yeah, that will be fine, my bigger concern is whether windows should be put on the first drive or second as far as making things as easy as possible for grub
[02:56] <the_chocobo> i need some help, i am installing a program and it keeps telling me to insert the installation cd but i don't have one
[02:56] <erichj> slimjimflim, just messing with you
[02:56] <mikebot> soundray: Still poor output
[02:56] <kst> dont think it matters volantares
[02:56] <gogeta> i would say first
[02:57] <slimjimflim> erichj, so you don't know anything about it?
[02:57] <soundray> mikebot: you mean the PDF is poor? Or you're still getting errors?
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: This error resulted when I accidently tried to dvi a file that didn't exist I think--and I tried reinstalling all the tex-base, etc. files, but it still does this.
[02:57] <gogeta> grub can handel it wyther way but windows tends to not like not being on first
[02:57] <volantares> gogeta win on first, lin of second?
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: The pdf quality is poor..
[02:57] <erichj> slimjimflim, can't say that i have ever experienced that before
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: let me pastebin you
[02:57] <rav> okk, ill ctrl alt back and pray
[02:57] <godzirra> is there a way to resize two ext3 partitions without formatting them both?
[02:57] <gogeta> yea that will work fine
[02:57] <erichj> rav good luck!
[02:57] <SerenadedAbyss> forget this channel... wayyy to busy...
[02:57] <soundray> mikebot: which version of ubuntu?
[02:57] <kst> mikebot maybe remove it completele and get a full texlive install from CTAN
[02:58] <astro76> slimjimflim, try with su -l
[02:58] <jacob_> usr13 http://pastebin.com/m48fab58d
[02:58] <mikebot> soundray: http://pastebin.com/m26be5991
[02:58] <the_chocobo> i need some help, i am installing a program and it keeps telling me to insert the installation cd but i don't have one
[02:58] <mikebot> kst: Yikes, OK, that'll be my last resort.
[02:58] <volantares> k
[02:58] <erichj> the_chocobo, download iso and mount it
[02:58] <mikebot> soundray: fiesty
[02:58] <kst> mikebot http://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/live.html thats what I did, everything seems to work flawlessly :)
[02:58] <volantares> well thanks.. talk to you soon i am sure
[02:58] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:58] <the_chocobo> erichj: how do i do that?
[02:58] <astro76> slimjimflim, try with su -l
[02:58] <mikebot> kst: Thanks,
[02:59] <soundray> kst: please don't recommend installing software from other sources when ubuntu packages are available
[02:59] <kst> sure, sorry
[02:59] <kst> is there even a complete texlive package (as in >1gig) in the repositories?
[02:59] <soundray> mikebot: tex-base is a tetex package. I suggest you make sure you have the texlive packages installed instead.
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: OK, I'll check that.
[03:00] <slimjimflim> astro76,  that didn't help
[03:00] <erichj> the_chocobo, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: I actually have to be somewhere at 6 (I'm already late), but I'll try that.
[03:00] <mikebot> Hopefully you're still here in an hour ;)
[03:00] <mikebot> Thanks for the help though; bye,
[03:00] <slimjimflim> astry76, but thx
[03:00] <soundray> mikebot: it's quite possible that this will fix your problem. If not, you'll have to configure dvips and make it default to the desired output resolution.
[03:00] <kst> thats why i said soundray :) my tex was bugged aswell, then i removed everything and went for texlive as in the link i gave
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: OK, perfect.
[03:00] <jacob_> anybody knows how to play .wav files?
[03:00] <iobelisk> whats the irc channel for epiphany?
[03:00] <rav> noooo, it did not do it.
[03:00] <gogeta> jacob wha?
[03:01] <gogeta> anything will play .wav
[03:01] <erichj> the_chocobo, and in case you are wondering you will need to download the iso of whichever flavor of ubuntu you are running
[03:01] <slimjimflim> jacob_ totem will probably do it
[03:01] <jacob_> gogeta, oh stupid me, let me see
[03:01] <jacob_> lol
[03:01] <slimjimflim> jacob_ aka movie player
[03:01] <gogeta> LOL
[03:01] <jrib> iobelisk: #epiphany on gnome irc
[03:01] <CarlFK> where is the gutsy version of  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/
[03:01] <rav> what driver are you running?
[03:01] <the_chocobo> erichj: thank you very much
[03:01] <soundray> !info texlive | kst
[03:01] <ubotu> kst: texlive: TeX Live: A decent selection of the TeX Live packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.dfsg.3-1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:01] <erichj> the_chocobo, welcome
[03:01] <Zylstra555> I need to edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf in Nano, how do I do this?
[03:01] <ePax> Is it possible to install superkaramba on ubuntu?
[03:01] <jacob_> slimjimflim when i open the wav file directly it doesn't go, is the wav file corrupted?
[03:02] <slimjimflim> jacob_ what are you opening it w/
[03:02] <kst> so it's not soundray? :)
[03:02] <gogeta> lol its a wav
[03:02] <iobelisk> jrib: the gnome server is not listed on the xchat menu, do you know the address to it?
[03:02] <gogeta> any meda player should handel it
[03:02] <soundray> kst: it's not what?
[03:02] <kst> a full install
[03:03] <rav> erichj, no dice on that driver
[03:03] <gogeta> try a dirrent wav
[03:03] <jrib> iobelisk: irc.gnome.org should work
[03:03] <soundray> kst: yes, it is. It pulls in other packages as dependencies.
[03:03] <jacob_> slimjimflime swhen i open it directly from my mp3 player i get an error message
[03:03] <gogeta> what message
[03:03] <iobelisk> thanks, i will try that right now!
[03:03] <zetheroo> I am trying to install a plugin.... where is the folder that I am meant to drop the plugin into?
[03:03] <kst> soundray in synaptic? but what about packages you need after install because somethiing wont compile properly?
[03:03] <jacob_> gogeta, let me send you the error message
[03:04] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[03:04] <marcanela> q es esto
[03:04] <kst> zetheroo plugin for what?
[03:04] <gogeta> if its not multi line you can past it hear
[03:04] <soundray> kst: you find out which of the many non-default texlive packages provides it, and install that. apt-file comes in handy.
[03:04] <zetheroo> kst: sorry I forgot to say... GIMP
[03:05] <rav> erichj: what driver do you have for your chipset?
[03:05] <rav> f
[03:05] <soundray> kst: the set of "basic" texlive packages is 152MB installed size
[03:05] <zetheroo> kst : I need to know where the plugin directory is ... but not the one in the HOME dir..... in the root area...
[03:06] <jacob_> gogeta, please use jacob at the beginning of your messages please, if not, that'll be fine, but i would prefer you would
[03:06] <soundray> zetheroo: /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/
[03:06] <jacob_> gogeta http://pastebin.com/m4c185e11
[03:06] <zetheroo> soundray : thanks... will try that
[03:06] <Gothfunc> i have installed lirc, yet /dev/lirc does not exist, only /dev/lircd.  that's not right is it?
[03:07] <gogeta> LOL
[03:07] <soundray> Gothfunc: it's fine
[03:07] <gogeta> jacob_ i dont think its a real file
[03:07] <jacob_> gogeta, lol, you serious?
[03:07] <gogeta> jacob_ yes it says its a text file
[03:07] <gogeta> where you get it
[03:08] <Gothfunc> soundray: when i run irrecord, i get: irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta let me download a new wav file and see what happens
[03:08] <gogeta> jacob_ probly the classes vires in a wav
[03:08] <rav> damn, im screwed with this aint I
[03:08] <Gothfunc> do i just link /dev/lirc to /dev/lircd?
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta i have an mp3 that has a mic to record conversations in the form of wav files
[03:08] <zetheroo> how do I load a nautilus file browser as root?
[03:08] <soundray> Gothfunc: you have to configure things correctly in /etc/lirc . It's a bit tricky
[03:08] <gogeta> jacob_ a riff wav?
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta, sorry don't know what you mean by riff wav
[03:09] <cranshinibon> hey everyone
[03:09] <gogeta> jacob_ mp3 hacked up to look like wavs
[03:09] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[03:09] <Photocopy> there we go
[03:09] <Photocopy> rofl
[03:09] <Gothfunc> soundray: ok sure, i've read the docs and found my remote's config.  i'm trying the hello world lircrc from the faq.  i'm not sure what i'm missing
[03:09] <jacob_> gogeta, i can't seem to play the record within the mp3 player, it's probably the player
[03:09] <gogeta> jacob_ well does that one play
[03:09] <jacob_> gogeta, i got one of those cheap mp3 players
[03:10] <soundray> Gothfunc: last time I checked, there wasn't much useful documentation for lirc in ubuntu, but if you look for help with recent Debian versions, the instructions should apply.
[03:10] <jacob_> gogeta it plays mp3
[03:10] <Gothfunc> soundray: so i tried using irrecord to actually see if my remote is working, and now i'm stuck
[03:10] <zetheroo> whats the command to start a session in a file browser as root?
[03:10] <gogeta> jacob_ well to play mp3 wavs you need lame installed
[03:10] <Gothfunc> soundray: ok, thanks
[03:10] <soundray> zetheroo: Alt-F2 gksudo nautilus
[03:10] <jacob_> gogeta, ok give me a chance to install that
[03:10] <cranshinibon> for some reason i keep getting the composite extension not available when I try turning on ubuntu ultimate desktop effects, how do i fix this
[03:11] <zetheroo> soundray: thanks.... its so easy to forget these things
[03:11] <jacob_> gogeta, how do i use lame?
[03:11] <jacob_> gogeta to play the fiel
[03:11] <gogeta> jacob_ its just a codec for mp3d
[03:11] <adac> where can i see in linux what kind of processor is on a workstation?
[03:11] <gogeta> jacob_ all players should just knoe to use it
[03:11] <hinogii> hmm composite on? is that the thing where you add the line Option "Composite" "On" in the xorg.conf
[03:11] <soundray> adac: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:11] <Photocopy> Any linux or other free OSes that ship free CDs? So far I am getting Solaris, Blag, and Fedora. Other than Ubuntu, who else sends out distros? I don't wan't to burn a lot of CDs, and am only a student, and without a job, so I have no funds, but I want to try a bunch of distros. (And I love the debian installer at goodbye-microsoft.com thats just aweseome. Anything like that would be nice too. Thanks.)
[03:11] <Gothfunc> can't wait for a more usable lirc configuration :)
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta i get the same error
[03:12] <gogeta> jacob_ the hacked header is probly confusing the player
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta, i'm opening the file directly, not from a player
[03:12] <adac> soundray: thx! it shows me the right model...but only 800MHZ
[03:12] <gogeta> jacob_ you try using xmms
[03:12] <adac> soundray: thx! it shows me the right model...but only 800MHZ!?
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta, let me give it a try
[03:13] <soundray> adac: that's fine, it means that speedstep or powernow has scaled down your frequency
[03:13] <gogeta> jacob_ you just need a payr that handels those types of wav files
[03:13] <Photocopy> Usually when I ask for help I get answers here... but this is the second time i've asked this  (once yesterday) and it gets ignored.
[03:13] <soundray> adac: it will go up on demand.
[03:13] <adac> soundray: but why..it isn't running on battery right now
[03:13] <Laibsch> The latest update crashed and upon reboot I am stuck with some dpkg trouble: http://rafb.net/p/nWavKO47.html  How can I fix this?  "dpkg --configure -a" won't do anything.
[03:13] <adac> soundray: oh..i see :)
[03:13] <soundray> adac: to reduce heat output and extend the life of your hardware.
[03:14] <gogeta> jacob_ weard mp3 player btw to use a riff wav\
[03:14] <Pelo> Laibsch, di you try booting the previous kernel ?
[03:14] <jacob_> gogeta, let me see if i can get it played through the mp3 player, i still got the same error message
[03:14] <wastrel> mp3
[03:14] <adac> soundray: how nice it is to me that ubuntu:) it cares about my hardware;)
[03:14] <usr13> jacob_: play *
[03:14] <gogeta> jacob_ odd player
[03:15] <Laibsch> Pelo: What makes you think this is a kernel issue?  Or that the kernel even got an upgrade?
[03:15] <jacob_> gogeta, ok
[03:15] <EminX> is it possible, I just installed ubuntu 7.10 beta, and can't find 3d desktop , does anyone now how can use that
[03:15] <usr13> jacob_: play *.mp3
[03:15] <verme> hi!
[03:15] <Photocopy> Does ubuntu studio have everything ubuntu has??
[03:15] <Pelo> Laibsch, nvm then
[03:15] <Evanlec> EminX, its under Desktop Effects
[03:15] <gogeta> jacob_ has those hacked up wavs that are relly mp3s
[03:15] <wastrel> EminX: #ubuntu+1 for gusty (beta) questions
[03:15] <soundray> adac: you can add the CPU Frequency Monitor applet to the panel and watch the frequency going up and down as you load your CPU
[03:15] <yell0w> hey guys, i'm running a compaq with ati x200 fglrx on gutsy. how should i get the function key to switch to external display ?
[03:15] <erichj> EminX, it's enabled by default
[03:15] <Pelo> Photocopy,  you can instal everything in ubuntu studio from the repos I beleive
[03:16] <verme> why the gcc which was installed with ubuntu doesn't compile??
[03:16] <EminX> but it doesn't work
[03:16] <usr13> play /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/*
[03:16] <fevel> can someone please help me
[03:16] <Pelo> !gutsy | yell0w
[03:16] <soundray> verme: can you elaborate?
[03:16] <Evanlec> soundray, thats only for like laptops rite? cpu frequency app dont work on my machine (Pentium D) desktop
[03:16] <ubotu> yell0w: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Pelo> fevel,  what is your issue ?
[03:16] <gogeta> jacob_ did you try just rename it from .wav to .mp3
[03:16] <the_chocobo> i am trying to copy a file and it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[03:16] <Photocopy> Pelo: I am not even using ubuntu, thats why I ask, so if i wanted to install studio, i could just go get the studio iso instead of doing ubuntu then the packages.
[03:16] <EminX> wastrel: and there is no desktop effect icon on the system panel
[03:16] <verme> soundray: i don't understand you... elaborate?
[03:16] <Photocopy> Pelo: Im on debian. rofl.
[03:16] <Pelo> the_chocobo, use sudo before your copy command
[03:16] <soundray> verme: tell us more about the problem
[03:16] <wastrel> EminX: you're using 7.10, you need to ask in the 7.10 channel  #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <erichj> the_chocobo, su cp <file>
[03:17] <Photocopy> Pelo: woot. or something.
[03:17] <erichj> sudo
[03:17] <the_chocobo> thanks
[03:17] <h1st0> !sudo > the_chocobo
[03:17] <fevel> I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu feisty, the I ran sudo nautilus& and now everytime I login inside kde asks for my password for executing as root KDE su
[03:17] <Pelo> Photocopy, I assume so
[03:17] <jacob_> usr13 play * gives me
[03:17] <jacob_> jacob@jacob-laptop:/media/disk/RECORD/VOICE$ play REC001.WAV
[03:17] <jacob_> sox: Failed reading REC001.WAV: WAVE: RIFF header not found
[03:17] <verme> soundray: >gcc base.c -o base does not compile
[03:17] <soundray> Evanlec: frequency scaling capabilities vary from model to model, but they aren't limited to laptops
[03:17] <fevel> noone helped me on kubuntu channel and im actually running ubuntu feisty
[03:17] <guru> how do i install just one package from testing?
[03:17] <soundray> verme: what does it say?
[03:17] <usr13> the_chocobo: sudo chmod +w /path/to/folder
[03:17] <EminX> wastrel: Ok thanks, I'm doing that right now
[03:18] <Evanlec> soundray, oh...what sort of cpu's have scaling capabilities?
[03:18] <verme> soundray: it says that
[03:18] <verme> base.c:1:20: error: stdlib.h: No existe el fichero  directorio
[03:18] <verme> base.c:2:19: error: stdio.h: No existe el fichero  directorio
[03:18] <h1st0> guru: download and install it although its not recomended what are you tyring to do?
[03:18] <wastrel> fevel: you shouldn't use sudo for GUI apps, you need to fix permissions on something in your homedir
[03:18] <usr13> the_chocobo: sudo cp filename /path/to/folder
[03:18] <Pelo> fevel, you should be asked for a password when you login to the kde desktop,  I'm not sure I see the problem
[03:18] <wastrel> fevel: use gksudo  for gui apps
[03:18] <soundray> verme: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:18] <Evanlec> !es | verme
[03:18] <ubotu> verme: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:18] <Photocopy> Pelo: Is it possible to turn Xubuntu into a sort of "xubuntu studio"? I'd assume so, but if you knew..
[03:18] <guru> h1st0: i'm attepting to get freevo to work with the broken pygame version packaged with feisty
[03:18] <verme> de acuerdo!
[03:18] <verme> ;)
[03:18] <jacob_> gogeta, renaming it to mp3 doesn't work neither
[03:18] <verme> soundray: thanks a lot
[03:18] <gogeta> slams head
[03:18] <gogeta> i knoe what they
[03:18] <gogeta> are
[03:18] <Photocopy> I like XFCE for pretty much the wrong reason; I'm used to it. Don't really care much that its fast heh.
[03:19] <Photocopy> thats just a side effect
[03:19] <usr13> jacob_: Linux does not care about file extensions.  It know's what the files ar.
[03:19] <fevel> guys its after the login screen inside kde, and im not tryin to run gui as root anymore, im trying to fix this issue that appears everytime I login
[03:19] <h1st0> guru: you could build your own packages from source would be a better option.  However, if you want to try it packages are at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <gogeta> you get the same format from m$ sound recorded if you slect mp3
[03:19] <Pelo> Photocopy,  the only real difference between ubuntu and ubuntu studio is the package set on the default install, you can install those "extra" packages on any distro
[03:19] <gogeta> mp3s with wav headers
[03:19] <Photocopy> Pelo: Really?
[03:19] <guru> h1st0: all i wanted to do is either install python2.4 without uninstalling all my other packages or install the latest pygame that was fixed
[03:19] <jacob_> usr13 oh thx for telling
[03:19] <h1st0> guru: I would just search the forums for freevo as i'm sure people have it working.
[03:19] <fevel> its like its trying to run something automatically at every boot that needs root permisisons
[03:19] <erichj> and ubuntu-studio has that awesome theme
[03:19] <usr13> jacob_: What type of file are you trying to play?
[03:19] <Photocopy> Pelo: Could I for example, get them on debian right now?
[03:19] <soundray> Evanlec: generally, Athlon, Athlon64, Core 2, Pentium M and the like do. Server processors like the Opteron, Xeon and your Pentium D don't.
[03:19] <Gothfunc> soundray: when i run lircd from the command line i get "lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lircd.pid".  does that sound familiar?
[03:19] <usr13> jacob_: Find out:  file  filename
[03:19] <guru> h1st0: fyi freevo on amd64 crashes with the following message "ValueError: Buffer length does not equal format and resolution size"
[03:19] <jacob_> usr13 a wav file located in my mp3 player
[03:20] <h1st0> guru: well you could just build the pygame deb from source with checkinstall or install the deb.
[03:20] <Evanlec> soundray, interesting...
[03:20] <Darxus> I can't figure out how to sync my HTC Mogul phone over bluetooth because it doesn't support IrMC as I was using with my Sony Ericsson S710a.  Google searching has not been productive so far.  Suggestions?
[03:20] <h1st0> guru: I don't know anything about freevo i've typically used myth
[03:20] <jacob_> usr13 REC001.WAV
[03:20] <Pelo> Photocopy,  probably , I just don'T know which package they are so i can't give you a list you'll have to research it
[03:20] <Gothfunc> soundray: additionally: "lircd: Permission denied"
[03:20] <gogeta> jacob_ acoording to my search xmms should handel that format
[03:20] <guru> h1st0: i searched google and the most common answer is to revert python versions
[03:20] <usr13> jacob_: file REC001.WAV
[03:20] <Photocopy> Pelo: I know where the package list is.. Now how do I configure synaptic to access the ubuntu repos?
[03:20] <jacob_> gogeta, its probably the mp3 player
[03:20] <jacob_> gogeta it's a cheap one
[03:20] <gogeta> does it play on that
[03:21] <Pelo> fevel,  I'M very sorry but I don'T understand the problem ,  you shoudln'T be login in as root in anycase and it is normal to get asked for your passsword when you start admin apps
[03:21] <jacob_> usr13 it's a cheap one
[03:21] <guru> h1st0: mythtv doesn't work well for me...ti's overly bloated and doesn't seem very stable. i just want something that will cat /dev/video0 and dump it to a video file at a predetermined time
[03:21] <soundray> Gothfunc: you haven't got appropriate privileges. If you installed from ubuntu packages, you should use 'sudo invoke-rc.d lirc start' to start the daemon. Or maybe lircd, I'm not sure.
[03:21] <h1st0> guru: you could just do it on your own.
[03:22] <h1st0> guru: or make a script to create a cron job and do it.  etc...
[03:22] <fevel> Pelo: can I send you a printscreen or something?? im sure its a simple problem that my noobness simply doeesnt understand
[03:22] <Haveno> Hi.. somebody help me with a resolution of screen?
[03:22] <Pelo> Photocopy, I don'T ,  try a ubunt-studio website for the list of packages , try www.getdeb.net for some of the pacakges,  check in www.ubuntuforums.org for  repos list
[03:22] <chris4> hello, I am having a few problems. the first one is the top and bottom bars are gone, second the computer's power management isn't working, it can only connect to one of my 3 printers on the network, and I can't play mp3's
[03:22] <h1st0> !resolution > Haveno
[03:22] <Gothfunc> soundray: silly me
[03:22] <Pelo> fevel,  upload a screenshot if you must then give us the link
[03:22] <soundray> Haveno: intel?
[03:22] <fevel> ok
[03:22] <Photocopy> Pelo: Thanks, now I'm having issues making an application launcher.
[03:22] <fevel> ill be right back
[03:22] <gogeta> jacob_ i think you need flac to handel that format
[03:22] <Photocopy> in gnome
[03:22] <iobelisk> is it possible to configure epiphany to redirect text written into the address bar as a webpage instead of running a google search string all the time?
[03:22] <Photocopy> but ill come back for that later, im going to bed
[03:22] <Haveno> soundray: athlon
[03:22] <Photocopy> anyway
[03:23] <Photocopy> thanks for all the help
[03:23] <h1st0> chris4: disable desktop-effects to get your gnome panels back and read the message from ubotu about restricted codecs
[03:23] <h1st0> !restricted > chris4
[03:23] <soundray> Haveno: I mean, what graphic chipset?
[03:23] <guru> h1st0: it doesn't work that way - you can't simply cat /dev/video0 and dump it to a file
[03:23] <Haveno> soundray: geforce 5200
[03:23] <h1st0> guru: sure you can if you have an mpeg2 encoder card
[03:23] <h1st0> guru: I do it all the time.
[03:23] <Pelo> !panel | Gothfunc
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <usr13> chris4: Do you see a little arrow in the lower right or upper right or lower left or upper left corners of the screen?  (If so, click on arrow.)
[03:23] <Pelo> damit  nothign about restoing the pannels
[03:23] <Gothfunc> Pelo: hm?
[03:23] <guru> h1st0: i don't
[03:23] <chris4> no arrow
[03:23] <Pelo> Gothfunc,  nvm
[03:23] <soundray> Haveno: in that case, the private message from ubotu should help.
[03:24] <guru> h1st0: is there an easy way to uninstall python2.5 and install python2.4 instead without uninstalling everything that depends on python?
[03:24] <usr13> chris4: Are you using gnome?
[03:24] <chris4> usr13:I got it back once but it dissapeared again a few resets later
[03:24] <Pelo> Gothfunc, search in the forum for gnome-panel    www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:24] <wastrel> gnome
[03:24] <doodle77> is there a way to stop everything from beeping (i stopped bash from beeping)
[03:24] <chris4> i think it is gnome
[03:24] <guru> doodle77: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[03:24] <Pelo> !mp3 > Gothfunc  this is for mp3 stuff check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:24] <Gothfunc> Pelo: is that to do with lirc, or are you autocompleting go for gogeta?
[03:25] <Haveno> soundray: thx ^^
[03:25] <Evanlec> guru, will 'sudo rmmod pcspkr' be a persistent change?
[03:25] <Pelo> Gothfunc,  the first one was a misalke of mine, the later ones are for you
[03:25] <usr13> chris4: How did you get it back last time?
[03:25] <guru> Evanlec: no
[03:25] <jrib> doodle77: system -> prefs -> sound
[03:25] <chris4> usr13:a command thrugh the terminal
[03:25] <Evanlec> guru, how to make it persistent?
[03:25] <soundray> doodle77: if you want to get rid of bleeps forever, you should blacklist pcspkr (Evanlec)
[03:25] <guru> Evanlec: you'll have to stop it from loading in modules.conf (or set it in your .bashrc)
[03:25] <Gothfunc> Pelo: but i didn't ask about panel or mp3s...
[03:25] <usr13> chris4: Are you sure it's not just screen size too big?
[03:25] <iobelisk> is it possible to configure epiphany to redirect text written into the address bar as a webpage instead of running a google search string all the time?
[03:26] <soundray> !blacklist | doodle77, Evanlec
[03:26] <ubotu> doodle77, Evanlec: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[03:26] <h1st0> guru: not really have you searched the forums?
[03:26] <chris4> usr13:I'm sure, tried that
[03:26] <usr13> chris4: maybe: The screen is larger than the monitor?
[03:26] <guru> h1st0: i've searched google
[03:26] <Pelo> Gothfunc, sorry those were meant for chris4 then
[03:26] <chris4> I've tried 3 monitors
[03:26] <Gothfunc> Pelo: lol ;)
[03:27] <chris4> usr13: one was a flat screen
[03:27] <soundray> Gothfunc: good luck with lirc, I know it can be a PITA
[03:27] <Pelo> Gothfunc,  my deepest apologies,  but you know how it is ,  the screen scrools by too fast , you read up, you think you got the right one , ..
[03:27] <Gothfunc> Pelo: ye, no prob :)
[03:27] <Gothfunc> soundray: heh, thanks :P
[03:28] <h1st0> guru: search the forums at ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <Evanlec> soundray, so i put "blacklist pcspkr" without quotes into /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist  ... that will work? the file didnt exist before...
[03:28] <h1st0> guru: for your specific problem.  I'm sure someone else has expereinced it if you claim there is a package broken.
[03:28] <Gothfunc> soundray: i have irrecord running now, though no input, but at least i've made progress :)
[03:29] <jrib> iobelisk: you should wait more than 6 minutes.... see: http://www.gnome.org/~nigeltao/epiphany_extensions/bookmark-shortcuts/
[03:29] <chris4> usr13: even after updating from 6.10 to 7.04 the problems continued
[03:30] <usr13> chris4: gnome-panel
[03:30] <usr13> try    ^^
[03:30] <chris4> usr13:how?
[03:30] <iobelisk> jrib: sorry. and thanks for the link!
[03:30] <usr13> chris4: start a terminal
[03:31] <fevel> http://picasaweb.google.com/renato1985/Fotos/photo#5116916876476135746
[03:31] <fevel> Pelo: there it is
[03:31] <Photocopy> Pelo
[03:31] <Photocopy> Pelo:  W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntustudio.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A361B38AB6A4EB33
[03:31] <jpiccolo> i have a question, how do you read a man page in another users directory: man -M /home/user/man/cat program_name
[03:31] <chris4>  usr13: now what
[03:31] <jpiccolo> doesnt work
[03:31] <miguelito> hey is anyone here?
[03:31] <fevel> Pelo: in case you missed it http://picasaweb.google.com/renato1985/Fotos/photo#5116916876476135746
[03:31] <Pelo> chris4,  try this,    alt+f2   type gnome-panel  , if that does nothing,   alt-f2  type gconf-editor   in there look under /app/panel  see if there is a box you can check
[03:31] <usr13> I guess you'll have to do it via console terminal...?  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[03:31] <usr13> I dono
[03:32] <Zlooot> hey how do i desguise my ubunto has it was a windows pc so the hacker dont atack my box ?
[03:32] <chris4> usr13:I have the terminal open, now what
[03:32] <Pelo> Photocopy,  check the site for a key
[03:32] <Pelo> fevel,  Looking  , gimme a few minutes
[03:32] <Photocopy> Pelo: A key? Once I got one, then what?
[03:32] <miguelito> I have a question.  I am new to linux.  If I am going to download a program for Linux, do I download the debian one or Red hat or Fedora?
[03:32] <Pelo> Photocopy,  put it in hte terminal
[03:32] <fevel> Pelo: Ok thank you so much...you the man
[03:32] <fevel> =)
[03:32] <Photocopy> Pelo: There were two commands.    sudo su -c 'echo deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio feisty main >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:32] <Photocopy> wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <miguelito> Can someone please answer me?
[03:33] <Photocopy> Pelo: The first worked. The second said that apt wasnt found or something.
[03:33] <wastrel> miguelito: neither
[03:33] <Zlooot> download Vista
[03:33] <wastrel> miguelito: is there a ubuntu .deb ?
[03:33] <miguelito> no
[03:33] <Zlooot> download Vista
[03:33] <Pelo> fevel,  that's keyring stuff I don'T know anythink about it ,  but it might be related to wifi card or some such
[03:33] <fevel> hummmm
[03:33] <Pelo> Photocopy, the second one is the key  make sure you put in the whole line
[03:33] <wastrel> miguelito: is the program available in the ubuntu repos?
[03:33] <fevel> I think I have an idea
[03:33] <Photocopy> I did... ill try again.
[03:33] <miguelito> No it isn't
[03:34] <usr13> chris4: right-click on an empty area of the desktop and creat launcher:  Name - Terminal Comand: gnome-terminal
[03:34] <Zlooot> Vista is linux under the hood
[03:34] <miguelito> Debian, Red Hat, Fedora Core, and SuSE
[03:34] <wastrel> miguelito: you probably want to build from source code
[03:34] <chris4> usr13: gnome-terminal not found
[03:34] <miguelito> how do i do that?  which one do i download?
[03:34] <Photocopy> Pelo: I shift-insert. worked like a charm. Thanks.
[03:34] <Zlooot> download LFS
[03:34] <Pelo> Photocopy,  congrats
[03:34] <Pelo> !ops | Zlooot
[03:34] <ubotu> Zlooot: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:34] <chris4> usr13: installing gconfig-editor
[03:35] <wastrel> miguelito: what program?
[03:35] <jrib> miguelito: what program?
[03:35] <Pelo> chris4, gconf-editor it is installed by default
[03:35] <Zlooot> !ops | pelo
[03:35] <ubotu> pelo: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:35] <miguelito> Nessus
[03:35] <usr13> chris4: You can create a terminal icon realy easy on the desktop.  It'll just take a sec.
[03:35] <chris4> not on mine apperently
[03:36] <Pelo> !opsnack | rob
[03:36] <ubotu> rob: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[03:36] <chris4> i'm in the CTRL ALT F1 Terminal
[03:36] <rob> :)
[03:36] <miguelito> Nessus
[03:36] <riotkittie> never a dull moment
[03:36] <usr13> chris4: Are you sure you're running a gnome session?
[03:36] <chris4> how can I check?
[03:36] <usr13> chris4 Is this a Ubuntu install?
[03:37] <usr13> or is it xubuntu?
[03:37] <usr13> or?
[03:37] <Pelo> chris4,   gconf-editor is a gui app if you have no pannel start it with  the alt-f2 luancher dialog
[03:37] <pavel> zder a boot log
[03:37] <chris4> xubuntu
[03:37] <iobelisk> jrib: i already have smart bookmarks enabled on epiphany, though it does not exhibit the corresponding behavior. do i need to install it again manually?
[03:37] <Pelo> chris4, ahhhhhh,  wrong channel
[03:38] <chris4> no one responds there and i've gotten help here before
[03:38] <usr13> chris4: Pelo has the easiest solution.  Alt-F2
[03:38] <usr13> application launcher
[03:38] <chris4> how do I exit the terminal...
[03:38] <Pelo> chris4,  in xubuntu I beleive you can get a lot of options if you right click the desktop , I think you can get access to a pannel dialog from there
[03:38] <usr13> Ctrl-F7
[03:38] <chris4> usr13:nope
[03:39] <chris4> pelo: tried that
[03:39] <usr13> chris4: will take you back to the GUI terminal:  Ctrl-F7
[03:39] <Pelo> chris4,  alt-crtl-f7
[03:39] <doodle77> why do my xwd's look like this: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1237/lappy8086sa7.png
[03:39] <wastrel> !info nessus
[03:39] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (feisty), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[03:39] <jrib> iobelisk: well what does it do?
[03:39] <chris4> ah, there we go
[03:39] <ePax> Is there any other program the gdesklets that i can use instead of superkaramba?
[03:39] <wastrel> miguelito: nessus is in the repos
[03:39] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F7
[03:39] <usr13> sorry
[03:39] <jpiccolo> i have a question, how do you read a man page in another users directory: man -M /home/user/man/cat program_name doesn't work
[03:39] <miguelito> whats repos?
[03:39] <wastrel> !repos | miguelito
[03:39] <ubotu> miguelito: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:39] <Evanlec> is there a way for gnome terminal to remember its window size ?? it starts up too small for me
[03:39] <usr13> chris4: and you can come back to this one anytime you want/need to.
[03:40] <usr13> Clt-Alt-F6  to go back again.
[03:40] <iobelisk> jrib: it runs a google search with the inputted text as a string, which is fine usually, but if i type for example "ubuntu forums" in the address bar, i would like it to directly go to ubuntuforums.org. is that possible?
[03:40] <Pelo> Evanlec, check in the prefs
[03:40] <wastrel> miguelito: there is a LOT of software available directly from ubuntu project, all ready to install.  use synaptic to view the list of what's available.  it's always best to check if the program you want is available in the repos before you download from another source
[03:40] <Evanlec> Pelo, i looked around under the profile settings...didnt see any such option
[03:40] <miguelito> ohhh ok
[03:40] <miguelito> thanks a lot
[03:40] <pavel> is there a boot log?
[03:41] <chris4> usr13: got the config editor open, now what
[03:41] <usr13> chris4: What command did you use?
[03:41] <chris4> gconf-editor
[03:42] <jrib> iobelisk: read the txt file for the extension I linked you to
[03:42] <guru> h1st0: nothing on the forums pointing to any answers - just a lot of people with the same issue
[03:42] <Pelo> chris4, look under  /app/panel  see if you find a box to check for default pannel to display
[03:42] <guru> this is one of the major downfalls of any distro
[03:43] <pavel> is there a boot log and if there is where?
[03:43] <wastrel> what's pygame
[03:43] <guru> Pelo: it's just very frustrating to go through this in a "stable" distro release
[03:43] <chris4> pelo: no panel folder
[03:43] <usr13> pavel: dmesg may have the info you need.
[03:43] <wastrel> upgrade to the pygame in gusty?
[03:44] <pavel> usr13: ty
[03:44] <guru> i shouldn't have to hack around for 4 hours with no results because a package is broken
[03:44] <guru> wastrel: pygame in gusty is the same version
[03:44] <Pelo> pavel,  in /var/log
[03:44] <Photocopy> Pelo: I successfully added the ubuntustudio repos, but they have dependencies in the ubuntu repos, ehich I added (from the ubuntuwiki) but there wasnt a key on the ubuntuwiki ...
[03:44] <wastrel> curses
[03:44] <usr13> chris4: did you run gnome-panel ?
[03:44] <jrib> iobelisk: or change the about:config key for the search
[03:44] <wastrel> can't you install the fixed version of pygame manually?
[03:44] <wastrel> i don't even know what pygame is
[03:44] <usr13> chris4: not sure if that's it or not but..
[03:44] <chris4> usr13: no, gconf-editor
[03:45] <Pelo> chris4,   /apps/panel/default_setup
[03:45] <Photocopy> Pelo: So I get the same error I got when i mistyped the command... just this time they didnt supply me with a command, just the stuff to add in synaptic, and it didnt put in a key
[03:45] <guru> wastrel: i can't even *find* the fixed version. the closest thing i could get is http://doc.freevo.org/FreevoAptUbuntu
[03:45] <iobelisk> jrib: i tried the about:config page but i cannot find a corresponding string
[03:45] <chris4> pelo: no panel folder
[03:45] <Pelo> Photocopy, earlier I was just giving you some leads to check , I don'T realy know anymore about it
[03:45] <guru> this appears to be only an amd64 problem
[03:45] <miguelito> how can i access a repo?
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> add it to your repo list
[03:46] <Photocopy> Could anyone help me add the Ubuntu repos to debian for use in synaptic/apt-get?
[03:46] <Pelo> chris4, and right lickcing on the desktop does not bring up a menu option for pannel or dockbar or any desktop layout stuff ?
[03:46] <chris4> pelo: no
[03:46] <chris4> i can set my background tho
[03:46] <Pelo> chris4, I don'T know then
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> Photocopy: i'm not 100% sure they'll be compatible, they *should* be, but there's a possibility they won't
[03:46] <fevel> Pelo: thanks, had to do with wifi card< I unplugged the cable so eth1 wasnt busy and wifi could do its thang
[03:46] <Photocopy> Pelo: Did his panels disappear? That happened to me in xubuntu once..
[03:46] <jrib> iobelisk: http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries
[03:46] <fevel> Pelo: while booting of course
[03:47] <chris4> Photocopy: yes they did
[03:47] <Pelo> fevel,  glad I could hyelp
[03:47] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: I know that, I would like to try these things.
[03:47] <iobelisk> jrib: thanks
[03:47] <doodle77> why do my xwd's look trippin' like this: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1237/lappy8086sa7.png ?
[03:47] <iobelisk> jrib: i will look through that now
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> Photocopy: well i'm not gonna just tell yuo how to possibly break your system..
[03:47] <Pelo> Photocopy, yes, if you know how to fix it it please tell chris4
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> if you want to try ubuntu repos, try u buntu
[03:47] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, he want the studio stuff
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> ic.
[03:48] <jrib> iobelisk: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Keyword.URL
[03:48] <GNine> gutsy upgrade took 3 hours.  system uptime 7 hours, no errors yet.  very nice.
[03:48] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: I have installed from a network install and i dualboot. In other words, anthing I do can be fixed by simply formatting the debian drive and restarting.
[03:48] <fevel> one last thing...this is all cause im trying to run doom3. In case anyone got it running, anyone see this error before?? ARNING: vertex array range in virtual memory (SLOW)
[03:48] <fevel> signal caught: Segmentation fault
[03:48] <fevel> si_code 1
[03:48] <fevel> Trying to exit gracefully..
[03:48] <fevel> Shutting down sound hardware
[03:48] <fevel> ----------- Alsa Shutdown ------------
[03:48] <fevel> close pcm
[03:48] <fevel> dlclose
[03:48] <fevel> --------------------------------------
[03:48] <fevel> idRenderSystem::Shutdown()
[03:48] <fevel> 
[03:48] <fevel> oops, too many lines...sorry
[03:48] <totalnewbie> i download the 4 DVD repos. how to use it after i copy to my hdd?
[03:49] <Pelo> doodle77, looks like your color channels are not synced properly,  no idea why , try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  see if you can'T get better settings
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> 4 DVDs??/ wow.
[03:49] <Photocopy> Pelo: I can tell you that I pressed F2 and typed xfce4-panel, but thats for Xubuntu, so it wont be the same... try F2, see if itll give him a promt to run something. If so, then find out the name of the panel program in gnome and you're set.
[03:49] <totalnewbie> :)
[03:49] <strav> hi
[03:49] <Pelo> fevel,  please don'T paste in the forum
[03:49] <fevel> im sorry Pelo
[03:49] <fevel> i thought I could make it in 2 lines
[03:49] <Pelo> chris4,   read what   Photocopy  just said to me
[03:49] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: I really only need the ubuntu repos cause things in the ubuntustudio one require them.
[03:50] <strav> Small pointy question: anyone managed to compile the orinoco usb drivers (mainly for compaq w200 wireless card) on gutsy?
[03:50] <NotSure> my Konsole does not save font settings, really weird
[03:50] <GNine> i had to reconf xorg when i chose to run the nvidia restricted drivers but that was no actual problem
[03:50] <GNine> i like this gutsy deal
[03:50] <chris4> ok, that started the panel, but how to make it stick?
[03:50] <NotSure> my Konsole does not save font settings, really weird
[03:50] <usr13> chris4: Might be   gnome-panel
[03:50] <iobelisk> jrib: aha! it worked! keyword.url . man, all this while i had been searching about:config for "find" or "search" or "address bar". thanks a lot!!
[03:51] <jrib> iobelisk: np
[03:51] <Pelo> chris4, it should stick  but look for a session manager somwehere
[03:51] <NotSure> my Konsole does not save font sizes, really weird
[03:51] <chris4> pelo: let me check
[03:51] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: I like how you have a consience, that you would feel like its your fault if i screwed up my debian install
[03:51] <Pelo> chris4,  might just be called session
[03:52] <chris4> pelo: found it, now what
[03:52] <GNine> very novel .. blah
[03:53] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: That must by why you won't tell me how to get the ubuntu repos; you'll feel bad "if i screw it up."          cause there can't be any other reason, i can fix it anyway, and you can't get in any crap for it... so idk what the issue is other than you not wanting to feel guilty
[03:53] <GNine> "the problem is choice"  deal with that
[03:53] <rudelerius> Hello; I need help with file sharing in Linux.  In Windows I can map a network share to a drive letter and Windows can open any file or folder and treat it the same as any other file or folder on it's own hard drive.  I've been trying to accomplish the same thing in Ubuntu and have had no luck.  Since everything is a file in Linux, shouldn't I be able to access another machine on the network through a mount point for the network in the initia
[03:53] <Pelo> Photocopy,  just to recap what I was recommending earlier,   find a ubuntu studio website,  look on it to see what the packages are that make it different from ubuntu then find debian packages for it
[03:53] <IndyGunFreak> Photocopy: it shouldn't be that hard, a google search will probably turn up a number of them.
[03:53] <MasterShrek> rudelerius, you just mount the samba share like you would a hard drive
[03:53] <Pelo> chris4,  shoudl be a simple matter of adding   xfce-panel to the list of apps to run on startup
[03:54] <IndyGunFreak> LMAO, check this out, someone takes ubuntu jsut a tad to serious..lol  http://www.petitiononline.com/gutsy710/petition.html
[03:54] <miguelito> How do you change to root?
[03:54] <Photocopy> IndyGunFreak: ... I need the OFFICIAL cause the repos im using has the things i want which have depends in the official repos for ubuntu.
[03:54] <miguelito> How do you change to root?
[03:54] <scguy318> !root | miguelito
[03:54] <ubotu> miguelito: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:54] <Photocopy> Pelo: Once again, the dependancies, remember?
[03:54] <MasterShrek> !samba | rudelerius
[03:54] <ubotu> rudelerius: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:54] <rudelerius> MasterShrek- how do I go about doing that?  I can access the whole network through Nautilus and, I assume, it mounts the share for me, correct?
[03:55] <Pelo> chris4,  also check the various tabs and see if  there is a save session button,  if you have one , just start what you want on start up,  close what you dn'T wnat and save the ssession
[03:55] <NotSure> anybody, my Konsole does not save font sizes, really annoying, could anybody help out?
[03:55] <chris4> Pelo: added it to autostated apps
[03:55] <Pelo> Photocopy,   if you don'T know how to find dependencies  you shouldn'T be doing this anyway
[03:55] <MasterShrek> rudelerius, you can manually a drive by issuing a 'mount' command, or you can add entries in /etc/fstab to do this for you all the time
[03:55] <Pelo> chris4, that should be it then
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: exactly
[03:55] <miguelito> What do i type in the shell to be root?
[03:55] <chris4> thx, and i think i got the sound thing worked out too
[03:56] <GNine> unbelievable .  that was actually funny indeed , IndyGunFreak
[03:56] <miguelito> What do i type in the shell to be root?
[03:56] <MasterShrek> miguelito, su
[03:56] <Pelo> !root | miguelito
[03:56] <ubotu> miguelito: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> GNine: lol, i know...
[03:56] <chris4> now, printers... I have 1 out of 3 printers on my network working with ubuntu
[03:56] <scguy318> MasterShrek: do you not mean sudo -i?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: don't worry, we all have to accept, that someday, everybody will agree with me
[03:56] <Photocopy> Pelo: You aren't to tell me what I should or shouldn't do. Thats like, saying, if you don't know how to ride a bike you shouldn't be doing it. I'm doing it to learn. I hate that kind of outlook, cause theres not much other reason really, I mean I could just go and get ubuntu studio, but I want to try this.
[03:57] <Photocopy> Pelo: Plus i actually dont have any DVD's or CDs to burn
[03:57] <rudelerius> MasterShrek- I'll look at /etc/fstab and see if I can add it to always mount.  The samba share is always running on the file share, so I always want to at least try to mount it every time I start up the remote machine
[03:57] <MasterShrek> scguy318, su is switch user, without anything after it, it assumes root
[03:57] <scguy318> MasterShrek: it won't work on Ubuntu
[03:57] <scguy318> MasterShrek: since you cannot authorize as root
[03:57] <MasterShrek> rudelerius, for the type use smbfs
[03:57] <chris4> the printer that cooperates with ubuntu is installed on winXP, the other 2 are on 98SE
[03:57] <miguelito> whats the default password for root?
[03:57] <MasterShrek> scguy318, my bad, i forgot, mines set up to tho :)
[03:57] <Photocopy> Pelo: Plus lastly, I can't pronounce "ubuntu." I know how but it doesn't feel right... its embarassing to say.. rofl.
[03:57] <scguy318> miguelito: there is none, you dont login as root, you use sudo
[03:58] <MasterShrek> miguelito, there is no default password
[03:58] <miguelito> but it asks me for a password when i type in su
[03:58] <scguy318> miguelito: you dont use su, you use sudo :)
[03:58] <Pelo> Photocopy,  i think you missed the point
[03:58] <rudelerius> Thanks MasterShrek- I have no idea how to do it, but conf files are generally at least decently documented in comments, so I give it a whirl.  There's always Google!
[03:58] <MasterShrek> miguelito, its asking you for a root password, but there is none
[03:58] <Photocopy> Pelo: That being...?
[03:58] <usr13> miguelito: Well, you can get an admin session if you want.
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: it made my head hurt trying to explain it, so i gave up.
[03:58] <GNine> however, i wonder if there is a way of making xfce-dusk theme display all text in webpages.. i had the same issue before the upgrade
[03:58] <MasterShrek> rudelerius, i can give you the line in my /etc/fstab for my samba share, can i pm u?
[03:58] <miguelito> so i type in "sudo"
[03:59] <scguy318> miguelito: sudo -i for a root shell
[03:59] <scguy318> !root | miguelito
[03:59] <ubotu> miguelito: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:59] <rudelerius> MasterShrek- sure!
[03:59] <miguelito> but it asks for a password
[03:59] <GNine> some webpages dont display the text against white background
[03:59] <Pelo> Photocopy,  I tell you to get a list of apps that make -studio special so you can install then on debian and you complain about dependencies,   just install the damned dependencies
[03:59] <usr13> miguelito: give your user password
[03:59] <Photocopy> you know what.
[03:59] <chris4> Pelo: as soon as I close the terminal window my bars dissapear again
[03:59] <Photocopy> totally neverfuckingmind.
[04:00] <Pelo> chris4, that's becaue you started it with the terminal and not a launcher,  it should start on it's own with a restart of the destkop
[04:00] <MasterShrek> rudelerius, u get that pm? or are u not registered?
[04:00] <WolfSxc> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:00] <WolfSxc> And I like to take a minute6
[04:00] <WolfSxc> Just sit right there6
[04:00] <WolfSxc> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air6
[04:00] <WolfSxc> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:00] <chris4> pelo: ok, i'll try a reboot
[04:00] <YiffManly> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:00] <YiffManly> And I like to take a minute4
[04:00] <firemudkip> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:00] <firemudkip> And I like to take a minute10
[04:00] <firemudkip> Just sit right there8
[04:00] <viperflame4> My life got flipped-turned upside down1
[04:00] <PonyNaughty> My life got flipped-turned upside down1
[04:00] <PonyNaughty> And I like to take a minute8
[04:00] <FlameCoyote> My life got flipped-turned upside down8
[04:00] <WolfSxc> On the playground was where I spent most of my days7
[04:00] <FlameCoyote> And I like to take a minute5
[04:00] <YiffManly> Just sit right there0
[04:00] <viperflame4> And I like to take a minute4
[04:00] <firemudkip> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air0
[04:00] <PonyNaughty> Just sit right there7
[04:00] <FlameCoyote> Just sit right there10
[04:00] <viperflame4> Just sit right there1
[04:00] <YiffManly> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:00] <PonyNaughty> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:00] <coyotewindy8> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:00] <BearFlame> My life got flipped-turned upside down1
[04:00] <WolfSxc> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:00] <FlameCoyote> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air0
[04:00] <viperflame4> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:00] <YiffManly> In west Philadelphia born and raised0
[04:00] <BearFlame> And I like to take a minute7
[04:00] <firemudkip> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:00] <coyotewindy8> And I like to take a minute1
[04:00] <FlameGrizzly3> My life got flipped-turned upside down9
[04:00] <FlameGrizzly3> And I like to take a minute7
[04:00] <FlameGrizzly3> Just sit right there0
[04:00] <TigerDream> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:00] <TigerDream> And I like to take a minute2
[04:00] <PonyNaughty> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:00] <viperbeaver> My life got flipped-turned upside down4
[04:00] <FlameCoyote> In west Philadelphia born and raised5
[04:00] <viperbeaver> And I like to take a minute9
[04:00] <viperflame4> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:00] <BearFlame> Just sit right there9
[04:00] <TigerDream> Just sit right there7
[04:01] <h1st0> !ops
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> And I like to take a minute7
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> Just sit right there1
[04:01] <FlamePony> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <FlamePony> And I like to take a minute3
[04:01] <FlamePony> Just sit right there7
[04:01] <firebeaver4> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:01] <firebeaver4> And I like to take a minute0
[04:01] <firebeaver4> Just sit right there9
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> My life got flipped-turned upside down4
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> And I like to take a minute8
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air5
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> And I like to take a minute10
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> My life got flipped-turned upside down10
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> And I like to take a minute9
[04:01] <WolfSxc> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school7
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> My life got flipped-turned upside down1
[04:01] <YiffManly> On the playground was where I spent most of my days2
[04:01] <viperbeaver> Just sit right there10
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[04:01] <bunnywindy3> And I like to take a minute3
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> And I like to take a minute7
[04:01] <TigerDream> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air1
[04:01] <BearFlame> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air6
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> Just sit right there10
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:01] <FlamePony> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <firebeaver4> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air6
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air1
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> And I like to take a minute10
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <firemudkip> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <viperflame4> On the playground was where I spent most of my days10
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:01] <lionspeed> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> And I like to take a minute1
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> Just sit right there5
[04:01] <femaledog> My life got flipped-turned upside down5
[04:01] <femaledog> And I like to take a minute10
[04:01] <femaledog> Just sit right there10
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> On the playground was where I spent most of my days6
[04:01] <lionspeed> And I like to take a minute3
[04:01] <viperbeaver> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> Just sit right there5
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> Just sit right there9
[04:01] <BearFlame> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air9
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air1
[04:01] <WolfSxc> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> In west Philadelphia born and raised6
[04:01] <TigerDream> In west Philadelphia born and raised9
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air2
[04:01] <femaledog> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air7
[04:01] <YiffManly> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool8
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> My life got flipped-turned upside down9
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> And I like to take a minute9
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> Just sit right there8
[04:01] <viperbeaver> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <lionspeed> Just sit right there9
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air5
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> My life got flipped-turned upside down3
[04:01] <lionfire> My life got flipped-turned upside down4
[04:01] <lionfire> And I like to take a minute5
[04:01] <lionfire> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool10
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> In west Philadelphia born and raised1
[04:01] <FlamePony> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <firebeaver4> In west Philadelphia born and raised3
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <firemudkip> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool4
[04:01] <viperflame4> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool4
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <BearFlame> On the playground was where I spent most of my days1
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool0
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> And I like to take a minute6
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> Just sit right there4
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air2
[04:01] <lionspeed> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air4
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> In west Philadelphia born and raised3
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> In west Philadelphia born and raised2
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> And I like to take a minute8
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> On the playground was where I spent most of my days5
[04:01] <TigerDream> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> And I like to take a minute5
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <WolfSxc> Who were up to no good4
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <lionfire> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:01] <DawgDream4> My life got flipped-turned upside down4
[04:01] <dogafro18> My life got flipped-turned upside down2
[04:01] <viperbeaver> On the playground was where I spent most of my days5
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <femaledog> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <YiffManly> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air7
[04:01] <lionspeed> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <DawgDream4> And I like to take a minute4
[04:01] <dogafro18> And I like to take a minute0
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <FlamePony> On the playground was where I spent most of my days8
[04:01] <firebeaver4> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <firemudkip> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school3
[04:01] <viperflame4> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school7
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school6
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> My life got flipped-turned upside down9
[04:01] <DeerHorny> My life got flipped-turned upside down0
[04:01] <DeerHorny> And I like to take a minute3
[04:01] <BearFlame> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool6
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> On the playground was where I spent most of my days10
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> And I like to take a minute8
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air1
[04:01] <kittywindy10> My life got flipped-turned upside down5
[04:01] <kittywindy10> And I like to take a minute4
[04:01] <kittywindy10> Just sit right there8
[04:01] <firebeaver> My life got flipped-turned upside down0
[04:01] <firebeaver> And I like to take a minute9
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school5
[04:01] <DawgDream4> Just sit right there4
[04:01] <dogafro18> Just sit right there2
[04:01] <DeerHorny> Just sit right there2
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air7
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <lionfire> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <SexyStallion> My life got flipped-turned upside down9
[04:01] <SexyStallion> And I like to take a minute1
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> My life got flipped-turned upside down5
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> And I like to take a minute2
[04:01] <SnowDog> My life got flipped-turned upside down7
[04:01] <SnowDog> And I like to take a minute1
[04:01] <SnowDog> Just sit right there10
[04:01] <lionspeed> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> Just sit right there9
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <TigerDream> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> On the playground was where I spent most of my days5
[04:01] <YiffManly> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <kittywindy10> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:01] <firebeaver> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <viperbeaver> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:01] <scguy318> !ops
[04:01] <DawgDream4> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <dogafro18> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:01] <DeerHorny> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air7
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <flameflame> My life got flipped-turned upside down3
[04:01] <flameflame> And I like to take a minute8
[04:01] <flameflame> Just sit right there1
[04:01] <badgerdream11> My life got flipped-turned upside down3
[04:01] <badgerdream11> And I like to take a minute0
[04:01] <badgerdream11> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> And I like to take a minute3
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <FlamePony> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:01] <firebeaver4> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool4
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:01] <firemudkip> When a couple of guys5
[04:01] <viperflame4> When a couple of guys3
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> My life got flipped-turned upside down5
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> And I like to take a minute2
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> Just sit right there2
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool8
[04:01] <SnowDog> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air2
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> When a couple of guys3
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school4
[04:01] <firebeaver> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air6
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> In west Philadelphia born and raised6
[04:01] <BearFlame> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school5
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool2
[04:01] <SexyStallion> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <DawgDream4> In west Philadelphia born and raised5
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> On the playground was where I spent most of my days4
[04:01] <dogafro18> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool10
[04:01] <lionfire> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <flameflame> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <badgerdream11> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air9
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> On the playground was where I spent most of my days8
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <SexyStallion> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air4
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air10
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school1
[04:01] <TigerDream> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school1
[04:01] <DeerHorny> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air6
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <lionspeed> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool8
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool4
[04:01] <YiffManly> Who were up to no good0
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> On the playground was where I spent most of my days8
[04:01] <kittywindy10> In west Philadelphia born and raised2
[04:01] <firebeaver> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <viperbeaver> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <SexyStallion> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school1
[04:01] <SnowDog> In west Philadelphia born and raised5
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> And I like to take a minute1
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> And I like to take a minute4
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> When a couple of guys3
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <BearFlame> When a couple of guys0
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school9
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> Who were up to no good9
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <DawgDream4> On the playground was where I spent most of my days6
[04:01] <dogafro18> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool8
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <Pelo> !ops
[04:01] <FlamePony> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school6
[04:01] <firebeaver4> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:01] <firemudkip> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <viperflame4> Who were up to no good5
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> Who were up to no good4
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> Just sit right there3
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> Just sit right there0
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school5
[04:01] <lionfire> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <flameflame> In west Philadelphia born and raised5
[04:01] <badgerdream11> In west Philadelphia born and raised5
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> When a couple of guys5
[04:01] <TigerDream> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> In west Philadelphia born and raised10
[04:01] <CheetahFemale> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood9
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school0
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <kittywindy10> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <firebeaver> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <DeerHorny> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> On the playground was where I spent most of my days8
[04:01] <lionspeed> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school1
[04:01] <viperbeaver> When a couple of guys3
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air3
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> When a couple of guys1
[04:01] <FlamePony> When a couple of guys3
[04:01] <firebeaver4> When a couple of guys10
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> When a couple of guys5
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> When a couple of guys9
[04:01] <SnowDog> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <coyotewindy8> Who were up to no good3
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool6
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> When a couple of guys10
[04:01] <SexyStallion> On the playground was where I spent most of my days6
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> On the playground was where I spent most of my days1
[04:01] <dogviper8> My life got flipped-turned upside down5
[04:01] <dogviper8> And I like to take a minute1
[04:01] <dogviper8> Just sit right there6
[04:01] <DawgDream4> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool10
[04:01] <dogafro18> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:01] <BearFlame> Who were up to no good8
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> When a couple of guys2
[04:01] <Hirvinen> !ops
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> When a couple of guys5
[04:01] <lionfire> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <flameflame> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:01] <badgerdream11> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school6
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> On the playground was where I spent most of my days1
[04:01] <CheetahFemale> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared3
[04:01] <FlameGrizzly3> Who were up to no good7
[04:01] <TigerDream> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool10
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> In west Philadelphia born and raised7
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> In west Philadelphia born and raised4
[04:01] <lionspeed> When a couple of guys7
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:01] <DeerHorny> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <viperbeaver> Who were up to no good10
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> When a couple of guys7
[04:01] <dogviper8> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air2
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school5
[04:01] <kittywindy10> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool0
[04:01] <firebeaver> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school0
[04:01] <yiffyspeed> Who were up to no good8
[04:01] <FlamePony> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <firebeaver4> Who were up to no good4
[04:01] <PikachuManly11> Who were up to no good0
[04:01] <dreamergrizzly15> Who were up to no good7
[04:01] <SnowDog> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> My life got flipped-turned upside down10
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> And I like to take a minute7
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> Just sit right there9
[04:01] <YiffAfro18> Who were up to no good9
[04:01] <SexyStallion> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool1
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:01] <PikachuPlayful7> Who were up to no good8
[04:01] <bunnywindy3> Who were up to no good4
[04:01] <DawgDream4> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school7
[04:01] <dogafro18> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school5
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> When a couple of guys8
[04:01] <WolfehHorneh> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <lionfire> When a couple of guys9
[04:01] <flameflame> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool1
[04:01] <badgerdream11> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool10
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> When a couple of guys6
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool6
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool2
[04:01] <CheetahFemale> She said You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'2
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air0
[04:01] <DeerHorny> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school0
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> On the playground was where I spent most of my days5
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> On the playground was where I spent most of my days8
[04:01] <lionspeed> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <BeaverFire5> Who were up to no good4
[04:01] <dogviper8> In west Philadelphia born and raised1
[04:01] <SpeedDawg> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood5
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> When a couple of guys5
[04:01] <kittywindy10> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <firebeaver> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school0
[04:01] <AardvarkManly5> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood9
[04:01] <viperflame4> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood1
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood2
[04:01] <SexyStallion> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school3
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> When a couple of guys6
[04:01] <flamegrizzly20> Who were up to no good8
[04:01] <SnowDog> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <Pici> !staff
[04:01] <DawgDream4> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <dogafro18> When a couple of guys0
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood2
[04:01] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[04:01] <lionfire> Who were up to no good3
[04:01] <flameflame> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:01] <badgerdream11> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school8
[04:01] <MudkipNaughty6> Who were up to no good2
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school2
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:01] <CheetahFemale> I begged and pleaded with her, day after day4
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> When a couple of guys2
[04:01] <DeerHorny> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool6
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool0
[04:01] <dogviper8> On the playground was where I spent most of my days0
[04:01] <SpeedDawg> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared3
[04:01] <snowdonkeh> Who were up to no good3
[04:01] <kittywindy10> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <firebeaver> When a couple of guys8
[04:01] <PonyNaughty> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared10
[04:01] <SexyStallion> When a couple of guys8
[04:01] <grizzlydreamer> When a couple of guys0
[04:01] <AardvarkManly5> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared2
[04:01] <viperflame4> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared3
[04:01] <FlameCoyote> I got in one lil fight and my mom got scared10
[04:01] <happybeaver> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood9
[04:01] <DoggyDreamer20> Who were up to no good6
[04:01] <SnowDog> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <yiffypanda18> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood8
[04:01] <DawgDream4> Who were up to no good6
[04:01] <dogafro18> Who were up to no good9
[04:01] <CheetahFemale> But she packed my suitecase and send me on my way4
[04:01] <yiffycoyote12> On the playground was where I spent most of my days7
[04:01] <NaughtyGrizzly> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood3
[04:01] <FemalePony> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood7
[04:01] <speedcheetah9> When a couple of guys4
[04:01] <DeerHorny> Who were up to no good0
[04:01] <speedmudkip4> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school0
[04:01] <HornyGrizzly14> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:01] <LionessHorny14> Who were up to no good10
[04:01] <flameflame> When a couple of guys8
[04:01] <badgerdream11> When a couple of guys9
[04:01] <grizzlywindy9> When a couple of guys6
[04:01] <dogviper8> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool7
[04:01] <SpeedDawg> She said You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'4
[04:01] <kittywindy10> Who were up to no good6
[04:01] <firebeaver> Who were up to no good5
[04:01] <LionDesu> Startin makin' trouble in my neighborhood1
[04:01] <Pici> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul!
[04:01] <Evanlec> holy moly
[04:01] <ePax> how do i see my ip if im behind a router?
[04:01] <Pelo> !ops
[04:01] <MasterShrek> lol
[04:01] <h1st0> They could have picked a better song
[04:01] <Evanlec> french prince spam attack!
[04:01] <Evanlec> lol
[04:01] <h1st0> ePax: go to www.whatsmyip.com
[04:01] <MasterShrek> ePax, your router should be set up with dhcp to give you an ip
[04:01] <ePax> lhehe
[04:01] <jrib> !traffic
[04:01] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[04:02] <Pelo> sigh ...
[04:02] <ePax> h1st0: I forgot that... thnx (;
[04:02] <h1st0> ePax: sry its whatismyip.com
[04:02] <usr13> OT OT  quit it  yes get rid of some of these fools.  Good, that's better.
[04:03] <mneptok> pardon the dust
[04:03] <Frogzoo> ePax: google what is my ip
[04:03] <GNine> check
[04:03] <darkchr0n0s> what is avg processer temp expected in a laptop ?
[04:03] <GNine> !ping
[04:03] <ubotu> pong
[04:03] <chris4> pelo: bars good now
[04:03] <Frogzoo> ePax: whatismyip.com
[04:03] <GNine> got pinged back
[04:03] <h1st0> darkchr0n0s: depends on tyhe processor type
[04:03] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[04:04] <sn0> darkchr0n0s it varies on the cpu, but anything too hot to touch = overheating :)
[04:04] <GNine> :-/
[04:04] <scguy318> darkchr0n0s: depends on how fast you run the CPU
[04:04] <ajisin> HEY HOW CAN I USE MU UBUNTU 7.04 AS A SERVER? PLEASE VERY URGENT
[04:04] <scguy318> !server | ajisin
[04:04] <ubotu> ajisin: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:04] <afrobadger14> My life got flipped-turned upside down6
[04:04] <afrobadger14> And I like to take a minute10
[04:04] <afrobadger14> Just sit right there7
[04:04] <afrobadger14> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air2
[04:04] <h1st0> sn0: not necessarily
[04:04] <sn0> ajisin please don't shout
[04:04] <SexyBunny> My life got flipped-turned upside down0
[04:04] <SexyBunny> And I like to take a minute3
[04:04] <afrobadger14> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:04] <lionbeach3> My life got flipped-turned upside down4
[04:04] <lionbeach3> And I like to take a minute8
[04:04] <lionbeach3> Just sit right there7
[04:04] <lionbeach3> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air0
[04:04] <afrobadger14> On the playground was where I spent most of my days1
[04:04] <scguy318> !ops
[04:04] <lionbeach3> In west Philadelphia born and raised8
[04:04] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:04] <Pelo> darkchr0n0s, varies too much you can use cpufreq to mod it  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[04:04] <afrobadger14> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool4
[04:04] <lionbeach3> On the playground was where I spent most of my days3
[04:04] <afrobadger14> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school10
[04:04] <lionbeach3> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool5
[04:04] <DreamPikachu> My life got flipped-turned upside down10
[04:04] <DreamPikachu> And I like to take a minute10
[04:04] <DreamPikachu> Just sit right there0
[04:04] <afrobadger14> When a couple of guys1
[04:04] <SexyBunny> Just sit right there3
[04:04] <SexyBunny> I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air8
[04:04] <SexyBunny> In west Philadelphia born and raised2
[04:04] <SexyBunny> On the playground was where I spent most of my days9
[04:04] <SexyBunny> Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool3
[04:04] <SexyBunny> And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school7
[04:04] <GNine> !ops
[04:04] <afrobadger14> Who were up to no good9
[04:04] <usr13> ajisin: yes, of course you can.
[04:04] <h1st0> Here we go again
[04:04] <ajisin> I KNOW BUT I CAN'T DOWENLOAD IT FROM THE SITE HVING A SLOW CONNECTION
[04:04] <IndyGunFreak> lol, you have to love the fresh prince of bel air..lol
[04:04] <sn0> h1st0 well yes some cpus work at near boiling temperatures of course
[04:04] <h1st0> Jesus how many bots can someone have
[04:04] <mneptok> ajisin: STOP SHOUTING
[04:04] <IndyGunFreak> h1st0: apparently more than a few.
[04:05] <Pelo> ajisin, we can read smallcase
[04:05] <kitche> h1st0: alot and it's not hard to make a bot that spams either with a certain irc client
[04:05] <IndyGunFreak> the funny thing is, that fresh prince tune is catchy
[04:05] <ajisin> sorry capslock on not sen oOps
[04:05] <sn0> darkchr0n0s you can install temperature monitoring software and maybe tell us your cpu from cat /proc/cpuinfo to see if we can help futher, but its not really a ubuntu question :)
[04:05] <GNine> i dont have time to read thru bs
[04:05] <darkchr0n0s> sn0 : sry abt that..
[04:05] <ajisin> now please tell it's bit urgent..!....   please
[04:06] <darkchr0n0s> but the temp averages at 51C
[04:06] <anony> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[04:06] <GNine> whoa.. critical mass
[04:06] <h1st0> ajisin: what is your problem?
[04:06] <IdleOne> did all the script kiddys just wake up ?
[04:06] <Pelo> darkchr0n0s, I get similar on a desktop , sounds ok
[04:06] <h1st0> darkchr0n0s: is it a p4lga?
[04:06] <h1st0> darkchr0n0s: cuz mine will run around there.
[04:06] <darkchr0n0s> C2D T7100
[04:06] <Pelo> later folks
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> later Pelo
[04:07] <ajisin> i want to use my ubuntu 7.04 desktop edition as a small server over internet
[04:07] <h1st0> ajisin: okay
[04:07] <scguy318> ajisin: what kind of server? i guess you could install w/e server packages u need
[04:07] <NotSure> folks, sorry for pecking you with my petty questions, but my Konsole does not memorize the font size, so every time I open a new session, I have to setup the konsole font!
[04:07] <scguy318> ajisin: but then it would be a gr8 idea to strip out ze GUI and stuff
[04:08] <h1st0> NotSure: edit current profile
[04:08] <VoX> why do people insist on using norton..
[04:08] <sn0> darkchr0n0s that sounds spot on really, but if you haven't checked you could make sure power throttling is set nicely
[04:08] <h1st0> ajisin: So what are you looking to do?  You should be able to do that no problem.
[04:08] <gogeta> couse there noobs
[04:08] <gogeta> ll
[04:08] <cdm10> Are there any Exaile users here?
[04:08] <ajisin> i dont know much deep into this please tell simply i have a desktop with ubuntu 7.04 and a internet connection now please guide me to use it as a server
[04:09] <GNine> linux is not windows.  therefore you must not be talking about ubuntu. or maybe you are in the wrong channel
[04:09] <cdm10> ajisin: There are a lot of different types of servers, maybe people could help you better if you described what type of server you wanted to use it as.
[04:09] <h1st0> ajisin: What kind of server?
[04:10] <darkchr0n0s> sn0 : power throtlling.. how.. ? u mean the OnDemand CPU operation ?
[04:10] <GNine> ajisin,  there is no "easy" short solution to your "problem" , which is not.  then again if you want to run a server you better know something other than pushing the ON button on your puter
[04:10] <ajisin> no . m not having a server. m having a normal desktopm computer with linux ubuntu 7.04 desktop edition installed how can i use it as a server..?
[04:10] <cdm10> ajisin: What type of server? You're not helping us here.
[04:11] <scguy318> ajisin: what kind of server?
[04:11] <gogeta> on buttion whats that?
[04:11] <ajisin> i want to use my desktop as a normal ftp server
[04:11] <darkchr0n0s> ajisin : what do you want your pc to do ?
[04:11] <sn0> indeed darkchr0n0s , frequency scaling to (if you wish) lower speed and decrease temperatures
[04:11] <scguy318> !ftp | ajisin
[04:11] <ubotu> ajisin: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:11] <darkchr0n0s> sn0 : thanks
[04:11] <sn0> although it should just work
[04:11] <scguy318> !ftpd | ajisin
[04:11] <ubotu> ajisin: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[04:12] <h1st0> ajisin: just install ftpd or some other variant
[04:12] <sn0> yw
[04:12] <scguy318> gogeta: thats the button that causes total nuclear annihlation to a running computer
[04:12] <GNine> heh
[04:13] <ajisin> wait m downloading it.... thanks alot
[04:15] <GNine> i heard gutsy had compiz and 3d effects on by default but my system kept the exact same settings from 7.04
[04:15] <scguy318> GNine: im guessing that's for a fresh install, you could enable it with ze button
[04:15] <cdm10> GNine: Well, if you upgrade, it's not going to change the settings  on you.
[04:15] <GNine> ok
[04:15] <GNine> fair enuff
[04:15] <cdm10> GNine: You have to set that manually, it's in System>Prefs>Appearance.
[04:15] <ePax> I have installed beryl and compiz... now when i "don't" choose gnome-xgl i can not see the videos because i get black screen on every player.. I can only watch videos on gnome-xgl session.. ?
[04:15] <chris4> can anyone help me with my power management or printers?
[04:16] <Evanlec> ePax, try #compiz-fusion
[04:17] <usr13> chris4: What's the issue with the printer?
[04:17] <Evanlec> ePax, and u should use either beryl or compiz, not both
[04:17] <GNine> ha! system does not have a "preference" option in my xfce4 desktop
[04:17] <ePax> ok
[04:17] <darkchr0n0s> ePax a temp solution is.. type metacity --replace before viewing movies
[04:17] <darkchr0n0s> and to get the theme again use compiz --replace again
[04:18] <ePax> oki
[04:18] <Evanlec> yes but really we get far too many compiz/beryl questions in this channel, the proper channel is #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[04:18] <GNine> thats kind of an unelegant solution there , darkchr0n0s
[04:18] <Evanlec> i agree ;p
[04:18] <ajisin> ok i downloaded 'ftpd' while installing it it's showing this error --> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:18] <ajisin> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:18] <h1st0> GNine: no it doesn't have them enabled by default
[04:18] <darkchr0n0s> GNine it is.. but i haven't found a better one yet...
[04:19] <GNine> ditto
[04:19] <Evanlec> ajisin, u should not be installing from source, forget that and install from repository
[04:19] <ajisin> i installed from terminal  how to install from repository?
[04:20] <Evanlec> ajisin, what cmd did u use from terminal?
[04:20] <ajisin> i used typed 'cd' n directory path to the extracted folder
[04:20] <jmantra> Greetings, seems to be having a problem with flash, it seems to crash a lot especially on youtube, tried updating the latest version of flash 9 and that didn't work
[04:20] <l_r> hey! ubuntu 7.10 stable is out!!
[04:20] <ajisin> then ./configure
[04:21] <scguy318> ajisin: what app?
[04:21] <Evanlec> ajisin, okay, then u were trying to install from source, which u should rarely have to do
[04:21] <h1st0> ajisin: just sudo apt-get install ftpd
[04:21] <Evanlec> ajisin, much easier way: 'sudo apt-get install proftpd'
[04:21] <l_r> i am kidding :) lol
[04:22] <Gnea> l_r: man, i went and checked too :P
[04:22] <Evanlec> l_r, on the 18th ... i cant wait ;p
[04:22] <ajisin> ok.. its running let's see :D
[04:22] <jmantra> Greetings, seems to be having a problem with flash, it seems to crash a lot especially on youtube, tried updating the latest version of flash 9 and that didn't work
[04:22] <scguy318> jmantra: well, you could try gnash, but with YouTube's changes, prob wont work out so well
[04:23] <scguy318> jmantra: it could be a vid card thing, dunno :(
[04:23] <Gnea> jmantra: does it display anything at all?
[04:23] <ajisin> now its showing this messege--> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <ajisin> Building dependency tree
[04:23] <ajisin> Reading state information... Done
[04:23] <ajisin> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[04:23] <ajisin>   ftpd
[04:23] <ajisin> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 118 not upgraded.
[04:23] <ajisin> Need to get 43.9kB of archives.
[04:23] <jmantra> worked fine on my old machine >:-[
[04:23] <ajisin> After unpacking 180kB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:23] <ajisin> Get:1 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe ftpd 0.17-24 [43.9kB] 
[04:23] <ajisin> Fetched 43.9kB in 5s (7309B/s)
[04:23] <ajisin> Selecting previously deselected package ftpd.
[04:23] <ajisin> (Reading database ... 98610 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:24] <ajisin> Unpacking ftpd (from .../archives/ftpd_0.17-24_i386.deb) ...
[04:24] <chris4> can anyone pls help change the power manager to APM instead of ACPI?
[04:24] <ajisin> Setting up ftpd (0.17-24) ...
[04:24] <Evanlec> ajisin, !paste
[04:24] <ajisin> is this means that ftpd is installed?
[04:24] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i've had no probs w/ flash
[04:24] <Evanlec> !paste | ajisin
[04:24] <ubotu> ajisin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:24] <scguy318> ajisin: yes
[04:24] <Evanlec> ajisin, and yes
[04:24] <h1st0> ajisin: yeap its installed
[04:24] <h1st0> ajisin: you just need to configure it now.
[04:24] <ajisin> so now how to access the software interface?
[04:24] <Evanlec> h1st0, whats the diff between ftpd and proftpd packages?
[04:25] <h1st0> ajisin: /etc/ftpd.conf or something like that for configuration
[04:25] <Innomen> hi all, gunna duelboot xp and ubuntu, which should i install first?
[04:25] <Evanlec> Innomen, XP!
[04:25] <ajisin> h1st0: its not wrking
[04:25] <Innomen> oky
[04:25] <h1st0> Evanlec: different programs you can apt-cache showpkg ftpd  to see
[04:25] <Evanlec> Innomen, u will save yourself a lot of headaches if u always install ubuntu/linux last...because it handles multi-booting much better than windows
[04:26] <h1st0> ajisin: sure it is you just hav eto configure it.
[04:26] <Innomen> so
[04:26] <h1st0> !ftpd > ajisin
[04:26] <Innomen> ubuntu first
[04:26] <Innomen> notr xp
[04:26] <h1st0> ajisin: read the message from ubotu on how to set it up
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: did you ever get that mess figured out?
[04:26] <Innomen> nope
[04:26] <Innomen> but i'm all backed up and ready to wipe
[04:26] <Innomen> was it you that said supergrub?
[04:26] <Evanlec> Innomen, no, XP first, ubuntu last
[04:26] <doodle77> after reconfiging xorg my xwds are still trippin' but they look like this now: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7614/lappy8086qq8.png
[04:26] <Innomen> because of supergrub i was able to boot into windows
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: well, thats good i guess, glad i recommended it..lol
[04:27] <scguy318> Innomen: mighta been me, I personally would have suggested that, but maybe someone else did
[04:27] <darkchr0n0s>  ./joke http://xkcd.com/149/
[04:27] <Innomen> well i'm a big believer in independant invention and shared credit
[04:27] <Innomen> so thank you both
[04:27] <Evanlec> lol
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: ya, it was me, i suggested supergrub several times.... but i know little about it, just seemed like a logical choice.
[04:27] <Innomen> it rocks
[04:28] <ajisin> now how to configure it? same way to go in terminal type 'cd' path then ./configure   ?
[04:28] <scguy318> ajisin: no
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: so what are you going to do, a complete new install?
[04:28] <Innomen> yea
[04:28] <Innomen> really xp first?
[04:28] <Innomen> i'll bet i have the samne problems
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: yes, definitely, XP first
[04:28] <ajisin> then?
[04:28] <scguy318> ajisin: that business is if you wanted to build from source
[04:28] <Innomen> alrighty here i go
[04:28] <scguy318> ajisin: h1st0 said to edit /etc/ftpd.conf
[04:28] <ajisin> then? how to do that?
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: only way i can see the sae problem.., is if you have a RAID
[04:29] <h1st0> ajisin: I'm not sure if that is the location you really should read the message from ubotu
[04:29] <ajisin> scguy318: yes but it's not working
[04:29] <riotkittie> argh.
[04:29] <chris4> is it possible to switch ubuntu to APM instead of ACPI for power management?
[04:29] <Innomen> well i have a novel drive configuration
[04:29] <scguy318> ajisin: what do you mean not working?
[04:29] <Innomen> anyway we'll see
[04:29] <scguy318> chris4: i think so, maybe noacpi boot option?
[04:29] <Evanlec> ajisin, type 'locate ftpd.conf'
[04:29] <ajisin> scguy318:that cmd not working
[04:30] <scguy318> ajisin: what command?
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: is that a raid?
[04:30] <chris4> scguy318: i'll try but i don't think it worked last time I tried it
[04:30] <ajisin> whicj u also typed above
[04:30] <riotkittie> ok. i am booting into feisty. and i am flexing my girly muscles. and i am going to make rt2x00 call me daddy.
[04:30] <Innomen> i dont know what it ewould be termed
[04:30] <scguy318> ajisin: i didnt give any command, i just said to edit /etc/ftpd.conf
[04:30] <Innomen> i like to tinker
[04:30] <scguy318> ajisin: use whatever text editor suits you
[04:30] <Innomen> part of why i'm switching over lol
[04:30] <riotkittie> because really, i no longer feel right if i am not writing bad poetry about my wireless in here at least once a night
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> Innomen: i worked with someone on a raid install for like a whole weekend, never got it to work right, ended up disablingth eraid, and reinstalling Vista and 7.04, and it was fine after that
[04:31] <Evanlec> ajisin, u should give urself a little tutorial on linux command line at http://www.linuxcommand.org
[04:31] <Innomen> riotkittie!
[04:31] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, hey, long time no see ;p
[04:31] <Innomen> the first person to help me :)
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: sup...
[04:31] <riotkittie> Innomen! problem persits, i see :|
[04:31] <Innomen> eh, but i l;earned alot
[04:31] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, lol were u referring to me with the raid thing? cuz thats pretty much my story as well
[04:31] <Innomen> and found a work around
[04:31] <ajisin> Evanlec: i typed the same you given me in the terminal window (locate ftpd.conf)
[04:31] <Innomen> my whole problem was losing stuff on the windows image
[04:31] <Innomen> thanks to you guys i saved it all
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[04:32] <riotkittie> brb
[04:32] <Innomen> so now i can tinker till it blows up and all is safe
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: maybe.. i've helped a couple through it, and found it was a complete PAIN
[04:32] <h1st0> ajisin: okay do this sudo apt-get --purge remove ftpd && sudo apt-get install proftpd GProftpd
[04:32] <h1st0> ajisin: that will give you ftp server with a gui configuration tool for it.
[04:33] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, yea...thats what i discovered as well...when gutsy comes out tho im gonna implement a softRaid thru ubuntu and LVM
[04:33] <h1st0> ajisin: err just sudo apt-get --purge remove ftpd && sudo apt-get install GProftpd  should work
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: lol, sonds complex.. i'll just stick to normal installs.
[04:33] <ajisin> h1st0: yes it's running
[04:34] <h1st0> ajisin: once its done you should be albe to configure ftp server with gui somehow probably Applications > System Tools or Applications > internet
[04:34] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, well some guy explained to me hwo to do it...its much less complex this way because linux supports softraid from the get-go, its my onboard raid or so called "fakeraid" that linux doesnt like
[04:34] <ajisin> h1st0: it's showing couldn't find the package
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: gotcha.
[04:34] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, so where ya been?
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> workin like a hebrew slave
[04:35] <Evanlec> lol
[04:35] <h1st0> ajisin: okay lets do this one step at a time.
[04:35] <h1st0> ajisin: sudo apt-get --purge remove ftpd
[04:35] <scguy318> ajisin: sudo apt-get install gproftpd
[04:35] <h1st0> ajisin: then sudo apt-get install gproftpd
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get me a day off
[04:35] <Evanlec> lol
[04:35] <h1st0> ajisin: you really need to read some documentation though
[04:35] <Evanlec> where u work at?
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> wonder if i told my boss that would he get it.
[04:36] <h1st0> ajisin: check out help.ubuntu.com and www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:36] <ajisin> h1st0: wait this command running (sudo apt-get install proftpd)
[04:36] <h1st0> ajisin: its gproftpd
[04:36] <cafuego> -ENOPERM
[04:36] <ajisin> ok i'll check n upgrade my mind on command line ok? m new here buddies   give me some time :)
[04:37] <ajisin> h1st0: but it's wrking
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, my tv card just lost sound
[04:37] <Tommy3> I cannot get apache2 to install properly. I must have hosed up the install/uninstall tool info for it.  Is there a way out of this?
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> all other sound functiona..
[04:37] <TheMadHatter> hey
[04:37] <h1st0> Tommy3: How are you trying to install it?
[04:37] <Evanlec> Tommy3, did u use LAMP?
[04:37] <scguy318> IndyGunFreak: loose cable?
[04:37] <Wooderson> if i restart my comp then i can listen to my music.... if i lock my screen and go away my sound stops working how do i fix this?
[04:37] <jimmygoon> Yay for ubuntu not being vista!
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> scguy318: well, i'm restarting first(i am using gutsy), then if that doesn't do it, i'll get under there and check cables.
[04:38] <scguy318> IndyGunFreak: kk
[04:38] <TheMadHatter> could sopmebody please help me all of a sudden i cant get any video from my pc not even a bios screen and yes i checked all the connections and tested with multiple monitors
[04:38] <Zoiks> how hard is it to run a VPC with windows on it from within ubuntu?
[04:38] <h1st0> Wooderson: my sound works fine if I lock my screen.  Maybe you power management is doing something goofy after a while.
[04:38] <maney_> trying out Gutsy, its got me in some stupid mode where the apostrophe by default acts as an accent modifier rather than itself.  if it just type its, it comes out like: it  Wheres the switch to turn that off???
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, must have been a glitch.... i'll have to monitor that one, after restart, sound is fine.
[04:39] <Wooderson> hmm i dont think so.. i just dont know why i have to keep restarting my computer to listen to my songs
[04:39] <scguy318> maney_: you installed SCIM or any of thise IMEs?
[04:39] <Evanlec> maney_, system > preferences > keyboard
[04:39] <Wooderson> ive tried 2 different players so thats not it.. the only thing i can thing of is i never installed my sound drivers =\
[04:39] <benn92647> hey all back from windows land
[04:39] <leo_rockw> maney_, you have the keyboard set to international us i believe
[04:39] <Evanlec> Wooderson, u might try the noacpi boot option
[04:39] <Tommy3> h1st0: I've probably tried too many wrong things.  The thing Im worried about is that I removed a lot of references to apache and apache2 in /etc and other places. new install attempts does not add them back.
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> Wooderson: what type of sound device?
[04:39] <benn92647> i hate service pack 2
[04:40] <Wooderson> onboard
[04:40] <leo_rockw> maney_, i have it like that.  etc
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: would that effect his sound?
[04:40] <TheMadHatter> anybody
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> Wooderson: well, this may come as a surprise, but there's a LOT of onboard sound chipsets
[04:40] <isna> rat
[04:40] <maney_> I didn install any of that on purpose, no.  tried poking at prefs, didn change anything
[04:40] <darkchr0n0s> benn92647 , instal ubuntu, no service packs
[04:40] <Wooderson> lol um
[04:40] <benn92647> is anyone running yahoo messenger on fiesty?
[04:40] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, if his sound went off after a while being idle, i'd say it could be power management issue
[04:40] <sadistic_kitten> I want to burn a .avi divx file to a CD, what is a good program to do that?
[04:40] <scguy318> benn92647: no, I just use Pidgin and the open-source alternative IM clients
[04:40] <chris173> Having problems with i810 driver using Gutsy beta. It worked fine in tribe 5!!
[04:40] <scguy318> !im | benn92647
[04:40] <ubotu> benn92647: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:40] <Wooderson> i forget that name of the motherboard its nvidia chipset tho
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: hmm, very well could be.
[04:40] <leo_rockw> benn92647, actual yahoo messenger? i use pidgin
[04:40] <benn92647> LOL been running ubuntu for the last year but cant play bioshock on it
[04:40] <scguy318> Wooderson: Nvidia CK804?
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> and the file must be able to be played on a DVD player
[04:41] <Wooderson> nah its like EVAG or something
[04:41] <scguy318> benn92647: that wont be happening anytime soon thanks to SecuROM
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> Wooderson: open a terminal, type "lspci", and look in there for the description of your sound device..
[04:41] <Tommy3> h1st0: Think it better to rebuild ubuntu than tinker with it?
[04:41] <scguy318> benn92647: dual-boot is your best bet tbh
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> so I need something like a VCD making program
[04:41] <maney_> yes, i think the ress these keys"thingie set us (intl) for me - was that the cause of this?
[04:41] <sadistic_kitten> anyone know a good one?
[04:41] <Wooderson> ya its ck804
[04:41] <benn92647> leo_rockw: i need yahoo so my girl and i cant video chat
[04:41] <chris173> **** i810 driver not working in beta. Something was broken in the transition from tribe 5 to beta****
[04:41] <scguy318> Wooderson: any other audio chipset in the mixer?
[04:41] <scguy318> Wooderson: cuz ive hit on some machines that have that chipset, and disabling that in favor of another worked
[04:41] <Evanlec> Tommy3, hard to say, u tried completely removing it with apt-get --purge ?
[04:42] <scguy318> Wooderson: but thats just my experience
[04:42] <benn92647> scguy318: been dual bootingfor the last year..but verzion has screwed up my wireles s again so her i am
[04:42] <leo_rockw> benn92647, i don't even know if it is available. i don't use video chat so pidgin is the best for me
[04:42] <scguy318> benn92647: well, looks like we share a service in common ;)
[04:42] <Wooderson> do i have to install the drivers for it?
[04:42] <benn92647> leo_rockw: cool ok
[04:42] <scguy318> benn92647: not sure how to interpret your hostmask tho
[04:42] <Wooderson> or does ubuntu automatically work with it
[04:42] <ajisin> now it's showing this error -->* Starting ftp server proftpd                                                   - IPv4 getaddrinfo 'techprone' error: No address associated with hostname
[04:42] <ajisin>  - warning: unable to determine IP address of 'techprone'
[04:42] <ajisin>  - error: no valid servers configured
[04:42] <ajisin>  - Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'
[04:42] <ajisin>                                                                          [fail] 
[04:42] <ajisin> invoke-rc.d: initscript proftpd, action "start" failed.
[04:42] <scguy318> Wooderson: i think not, I guess you could try to install the latest ALSA, but what devices do you have in your mixer
[04:42] <ajisin> dpkg: error processing proftpd (--configure):
[04:42] <ajisin>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:42] <ajisin> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:42] <ajisin>  proftpd
[04:43] <scguy318> !pastebin | ajisin
[04:43] <ubotu> ajisin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <chris173> vsftp
[04:43] <scguy318> like seriously
[04:43] <Wooderson> what mixer
[04:43] <scguy318> Wooderson: GNOME mixer, just what audio devices that are listed
[04:43] <scguy318> Wooderson: i forgot the CLI command for dumping that info
[04:43] <benn92647> i know i can run yahoo through wine but i really dont like using wine..so who has a way to hack yahoo into linux
[04:43] <leo_rockw> benn92647, kopete may work w/ the yahoo protocol, but i'm not sure. google is your friend
[04:43] <scguy318> benn92647: use an alternate client
[04:43] <Wooderson> ya cuz i have no idea what your talking bout lol
[04:43] <scguy318> benn92647: unless you're dying for webcam, in that case GYachi fork?
[04:43] <Evanlec> Wooderson, right click on ur volume icon and hit open volume control
[04:43] <Tommy3> Evanlec: yes.  New installs just dont put things back.  Tried purge last night and got some back but not enough to run.  was having problems getting it to run from the beginning. No log info generated.
[04:44] <Wooderson> ok
[04:44] <Wooderson> ALSA Mixer
[04:44] <benn92647> scguy318: i knowthat gaim has somethingthatworks with yahoo but i dont know how to use it
[04:44] <scguy318> benn92647: you just add an account
[04:44] <scguy318> benn92647: for YIM
[04:44] <leo_rockw> benn92647, gaim turned into pidgin
[04:44] <scguy318> benn92647: thats it
[04:44] <leo_rockw> benn92647, gaim doesn't exist anymore as gaim
[04:44] <Evanlec> Tommy3, hmm thats a tough one...im not sure
[04:44] <Tommy3> Evanlec: but it WAS reporting status on start and stop before I broke the init.d stuff.
[04:44] <scguy318> leo_rockw: not according to the Feisty repos :P
[04:44] <h1st0> ajisin: please just install gproftpd
[04:45] <benn92647> leo_rockw: yeah thats right. so can pidgin do yahoo and how od i get it running
[04:45] <h1st0> ajisin: and did you remove ftpd first?
[04:45] <Fezzler> Wonder if I can link old Apple Newton MessagePad OMP to Ubuntu to install packages, backup data, etc.?
[04:45] <Pelo> leo_rockw,  it is still gaim in the feisty repos,  it won't be pidgin untill gutsy
[04:45] <leo_rockw> benn92647, pidgin CAN do yahoo. but i think it can't do video
[04:45] <benn92647> i really hate linux updates
[04:45] <leo_rockw> Pelo, oh, i forgot... i compiled it myself
[04:45] <Pelo> Fezzler, probably,  look it up in the forum
[04:45] <Oetmet> Hmmm... I resized (added space) the extended partition where Linux and Swap partitions were (using partition magic in windows)... and now it seems the linux partition is corrupted... I booted the gparted live cd and it doesnt recognize the linux partition...
[04:45] <chris173> leo_rockw, I agree. I'm using it now and its pidgin only in gutsy
[04:46] <Oetmet> any idea on what could I do?
[04:46] <Oetmet> pleaseeeee
[04:46] <corevette> do videos use id3 tags?
[04:46] <Fezzler> Pelo: Look up in what forum
[04:46] <benn92647> leo_rockw: i will live without video then can you tell me howto get yahoo on pidgin please
[04:46] <leo_rockw> chris173, im on gutsy, but i always compile my pidgin anyway
[04:46] <scguy318> benn92647: you just go to
[04:46] <leo_rockw> benn92647, install gaim from the repos
[04:46] <Tommy3> Evanlec: Guess it best to make a clean start.  I'll take this one off line and rebuild.  Before I go, is there help here in getting  a scsi tape drive up and running. That's for another nite.
[04:46] <Wooderson> so u think installing the lastest ALSA drivers might work?
[04:46] <scguy318> benn92647: Accounts -> Add/Edit, add a YIM account?
[04:46] <scguy318> Wooderson: it might, but what mixer devices do you have?
[04:46] <Pelo> Fezzler,  www.ubuntuforums.org  look up the model of the device you want to use , see if there are any restrictions
[04:46] <benn92647> scguy318: ok well lets try thaqt
[04:47] <arrrghhh> does anyone know a fair amount of IP routing, masquerading, the like?  i want to use my ubuntu box as a router...
[04:47] <Evanlec> Tommy3, a scsi tape drive? thats server land...i have no idea lol
[04:47] <leo_rockw> benn92647, use synaptic
[04:47] <Wooderson> Master, PCM, Line in, CD, Microphone, Pcspeaker
[04:47] <scguy318> leo_rockw: hes asking how to add an account :P
[04:47] <leo_rockw> benn92647, it is pretty easy to set up after you install it
[04:47] <Pelo> arrrghhh,   #networking might be a good place to ask
[04:47] <arrrghhh> okie
[04:47] <scguy318> leo_rockw: Gutsy has Pidgin, but Feisty doesn't I think
[04:47] <benn92647> oh i have to reinstall gaim??
[04:47] <scguy318> benn92647: no
[04:47] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, u might try firestarter , its a firewall app but it also alows internet connection sharing
[04:47] <leo_rockw> scguy318, yup, i forgot
[04:47] <benn92647> i am on gaim right now
[04:47] <sadistic_kitten> so yeah, anyone know a good VCD creator program?
[04:47] <Tommy3> Evanlec: OK, thanks for the help. Have a good evening.
[04:47] <demon_spork> where is the php executable after you install php5?
[04:47] <scguy318> benn92647: yeah just do what I said
[04:48] <leo_rockw> scguy318, still, you can get debs from getdeb
[04:48] <Wooderson> FIXXED
[04:48] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, it basically sets iptables rules for you
[04:48] <arrrghhh> firestarter does that?
[04:48] <scguy318> leo_rockw: true
[04:48] <Wooderson> the pcspeakers was muted
[04:48] <Wooderson> lol
[04:48] <scguy318> Wooderson: sorry, I meant what audio devices
[04:48] <Evanlec> Tommy3, np, u too
[04:48] <Wooderson> crazyness
[04:48] <scguy318> Wooderson: not the mixer controls, but the audio devices
[04:48] <Wooderson> idk how they got muted =\
[04:48] <arrrghhh> it handles the dhcp, nating, etc?
[04:48] <leo_rockw> scguy318, but i always compiled it. i can't wait for the debs, lol
[04:48] <Wooderson> its fixxed now so its all good =] 
[04:48] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, it sets up itables rules for you from a GUI
[04:48] <scguy318> leo_rockw: i use a third-party repo for the latest
[04:48] <Wooderson> thx for the help scguy318
[04:48] <arrrghhh> yea i have firestarter installed
[04:48] <scguy318> Wooderson: np
[04:48] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, im not sure entirely cuz i didnt try it, but i know there was an option, if u run thru the setup "wizard" thing
[04:49] <ajisin> h1st0: i typed the command to remove it now it's showing this --> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[04:49] <wers> how do I hide my drive desktop icon?
[04:49] <arrrghhh> but i've been trying to setup webmin and shorewall to configure everything... and i'm lost
[04:49] <pavel> is there an app for ubuntu that hosts a forum?
[04:49] <Pelo> wers, mount them to  /mnt instead of /media
[04:49] <frostburn> pavel, like phpbb?
[04:49] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, i dont know about those programs
[04:50] <Pelo> wers, therer is also a  box in gconf-editor  under /apps/nautilus/desktop
[04:50] <Wolf23> hi friends, on amsn on preferences: on file manager <-- what should it be to open the amsn_received folder?
[04:50] <arrrghhh> they're a pain... i'll see what i can do with firestarter
[04:50] <wers> that's what I'm talking about
[04:50] <pavel> frostburn: uhm yes apperently, tybm
[04:50] <wers> thanks Pelo
[04:50] <leo_rockw> benn92647, could you install gaim?
[04:50] <pavel> *tyvm
[04:50] <arrrghhh> they're powerful, mind you... but a pain
[04:50] <scguy318> ajisin: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:50] <Evanlec> arrrghhh, that'd probably be the easiest way...
[04:50] <wers> btw, my drive is not removable.. it's a partition
[04:50] <scguy318> leo_rockw: he probably already has it installed
[04:50] <leo_rockw> scguy318, oh, so he only needs to set up an account?
[04:50] <Pelo> wers,  the gconf-editor bit then
[04:50] <benn92647> he leo its installed
[04:50] <scguy318> leo_rockw: yes
[04:51] <scguy318> leo_rockw: thats the question he was asking I think
[04:51] <wers> yep. got that Pelo
[04:51] <wers> thanks again
[04:51] <benn92647> leo_rockw/scguy318: i have gainm installed hwat do i do next
[04:51] <Pelo> wers, actualy  forget that last bit ,  the first one was right , if you mounted the partition in /media mount it in /mnt instead
[04:51] <picatta> what is the best entity relationship (ER) diagram tool for ubuntu?
[04:51] <chris4> anyone have any idea about connecting networked printers connected to win98
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: wat are you trying to do w/ gaim?.. just set it up with your yahoo account
[04:52] <benn92647> YAY!!! hi indygunfreak: yep
[04:52] <wers> Pelo, I dont mount it manually, it's a volume of my HD
[04:52] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak, yeah... it would be cool if you can help him, i never used gaim. i always used pidgin.
[04:52] <ajisin> scguy318: now a window inside terminal got open  written <ok> in bottom of it but when i press enter nothing happening
[04:52] <scguy318> leo_rockw: its basically the same tbh
[04:52] <Pelo> wers,  you change the mount point in /etc/fstab
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: what is the problem?
[04:52] <Oetmet> is there some way I can recover my Linux Partition? It seems Partition Magic (In Windows) resized the Extended Partition and now Grub doesnt even boot... and GParted Live doesn't recognize the Linux Partition
[04:52] <Oetmet> any idea?
[04:52] <scguy318> ajisin: well, i presume its the settings configuration window?
[04:52] <Oetmet> or some way I can repair the partition
[04:52] <wers> ok.. thanks Pelo
[04:52] <scguy318> Oetmet: testdisk
[04:52] <Oetmet> scguy318: is that a tool for windows?
[04:52] <akio> how do i switch synaptic over to kde from gnome?
[04:53] <ajisin> scguy318: this is it's heading (ProFTPd configuration )
[04:53] <Pelo> akio,  you can start synaptic in kde as well you just need a  launcher for it
[04:53] <trogdor> akio: what?
[04:53] <leo_rockw> benn92647, in pidgin i do the following: accounts > add/edit account > add > in protocol pick yahoo
[04:53] <akio> it seems to prefer gnome packages
[04:53] <scguy318> ajisin: then give the settings you want, tab to tab around, up/down, right?
[04:53] <benn92647> indygunfreak: i want to talk to my girl she has yahoo and i want to use yahoo, but theydiont have a fiesty ubuntu version..so leo was saying along with scguy that i can use ggaim for my yahoo
[04:53] <leo_rockw> benn92647, then just fill in user / pass
[04:53] <trogdor> akio: apt-get install synaptic then do synaptic as root
[04:53] <benn92647> k
[04:53] <benn92647> BRB
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: ya, its no problem.
[04:54] <Wolf23> hi friends, on amsn on preferences: on file manager <-- what should the command be to open the amsn_received folder?
[04:54] <ajisin> again showing this messege Setting up proftpd (1.3.0-21ubuntu1) ...
[04:54] <ajisin>  * Starting ftp server proftpd                                                   - IPv4 getaddrinfo 'techprone' error: No address associated with hostname
[04:54] <ajisin>  - warning: unable to determine IP address of 'techprone'
[04:54] <ajisin>  - error: no valid servers configured
[04:54] <ajisin>  - Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'
[04:54] <ajisin>                                                                          [fail] 
[04:54] <ajisin> invoke-rc.d: initscript proftpd, action "start" failed.
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[04:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:54] <ajisin> dpkg: error processing proftpd (--configure):
[04:54] <mike__> does kernel source install by default so I can edit config
[04:54] <ajisin>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:54] <ajisin> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:54] <trogdor> wolf23: amsn_received folder is in /home/user I think
[04:54] <ajisin>  proftpd
[04:54] <Pelo> akio,  it doesn't it displays packages from the repos ,  kde gnome and xfce are all mixed, you just have a lot of gnome stuff installed I guess
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> goodness gracious
[04:54] <IndyGunFreak> how dense can you be to paste a whole freakin terminal here?
[04:54] <scguy318> IndyGunFreak: i dunno, hes been told a couple of times to use pastebin, but...
[04:54] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, pretty dense...he's done it a couple times now ;p
[04:55] <trogdor> Pelo: xfce stuff are all modular, I use them on my blackbox setup actually
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:55] <Evanlec> heh
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> !paxil
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paxil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:55] <Evanlec> !valium
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about valium - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> sometimes i feel like i could be a psychiatrist
[04:55] <n-iCe> What codecs do I ned to install to watch divx ?
[04:56] <Wolf23> trogdor:  it has an example like $location can be replaced with location
[04:56] <manchicken> That #ubuntu-unregged thing is annoying.
[04:56] <ajisin> hello........?
[04:56] <trogdor> Wolf23: oh okay, well use it then, I just stick with the default :/
[04:56] <Pelo> n-iCe,  just open synaptic ,  search for gstreamer  and isntall all the gstreamer0.10 packages  you'll be covered
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> well, its silly not to have a registered nick anyways
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: did you figure it out?
[04:56] <benn92647> hey guys something is wrong it wont allow me to setup a new account
[04:56] <scguy318> benn92647: y not...?
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: why not?
[04:56] <Evanlec> !pastebin | ajisin read this before you continue asking for help
[04:56] <ubotu> ajisin read this before you continue asking for help: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:57] <n-iCe> Pelo thank you
[04:57] <benn92647> scguy318: doesnt even give the option is nthe scroll down menu
[04:57] <ajisin> ok.
[04:57] <manchicken> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, but sometimes you get bounced to a yournick_ when a netsplit occurs.  I suppose I could register the _ nicks, too.
[04:57] <Wolf23> trogdor: i type /home/username/amsn_received and doesnot work
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> manchicken: lol
[04:57] <scguy318> benn92647: Yahoo, YIM:?
[04:57] <chris4> well thanks for the help getting the bars back, looks like i'm not getting my printers going, but I need to go
[04:57] <benn92647> indygunfreak: i donteven have the start account option
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: it doesn't let you choose anything, or just doesn't have yahoo in the pulldown menu?
[04:57] <scguy318> benn92647: you have to press Add
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[04:58] <benn92647> indygunfreak/scguy318: it doesnt even have the option in the menu
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: what version of gaim are you using?... Help/About Gaim
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> and also, what version of ubuntu?
[04:58] <astx813> Where can I see and change what Gnome uses to handle certain files?
[04:59] <Pelo> astx813, find a file of the correct file type,  right click  properties,  open with
[04:59] <benn92647> indygunfreak: LOL i dont even have that
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[04:59] <n-iCe> To install kopete can I type: apt-get install kopete , ?
[04:59] <astx813> I did that, but I need to know the actual command line it uses
[04:59] <alcaponage> How come when i press Alt Ctrl Backspace, my X wont restart?
[04:59] <scguy318> benn92647: well where are you then?
[04:59] <Pelo> n-iCe,  with sudo yes
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: open a terminal, and type gaim --ver
[04:59] <n-iCe> Pelo thanks again =p
[04:59] <trogdor> astx813: I found this http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnome/users-guide/filetypes.html from google + gnome file extensions
[04:59] <scguy318> benn92647: the GUI hasn't changed significantly since Gaim
[04:59] <alcaponage> All I see is my background and nothing else
[05:00] <trogdor> Pelo: he means where the data stored for which file opens with what
[05:00] <benn92647> indygunfreak/scguy318: i have conversations and options
[05:00] <Pelo> astx813, usualy the name of the app is enought , no need for a path
[05:00] <leo_rockw> here's a gaim tutorial http://www.shsu.edu/administrative/training/guides/pdfs/gaim.pdf
[05:00] <scguy318> benn92647: i guess options?
[05:00] <Pelo> trogdor, so did I
[05:00] <cypher1> !pidgin
[05:00] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: what version of gaim... open a terminal, gaim --ver
[05:00] <n-iCe> btw Pelo gstreamer is a player or codecs?
[05:00] <cyclonut> Question: With compiz fusion animations, when my screen fades to black for the screensaver, I cannot recover from that. Any ideas?
[05:00] <benn92647> gaim--veer
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> no, gaim --ver
[05:01] <Pelo> n-iCe,  gstreamer are codecs you don,T need to set the files to it,  all the players can use them
[05:01] <benn92647> /gaim ver
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> no, exactly what i typed.. pay attention... gaim --ver
[05:01] <Wolf23> yes pelo? there is a command to open the file manager of amsn folder
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> it'll output the version of gaim you have installed.
[05:01] <benn92647> gaim --ver
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> put tha tin a terminal
[05:02] <benn92647> with a slash?
[05:02] <Pelo> Wolf23,  I know nothing of amsn but I would guess     nautilus ~/amsn_receive  would probably do it
[05:02] <scguy318> n-iCe: my understanding is that gstreamer is a GNOME API?
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> no, no slash, just gaim --ver
[05:02] <benn92647> ohhhh
[05:02] <astx813> How about if I phrase it this way?  When I right click a file it lists a few different "open with..." options.  How can I modify that list?
[05:02] <Textbook> ugg, firefox + flash = torture
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> Textbook: works fine for e.
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> *me
[05:02] <ddr4> Textbook, 64bit ?
[05:02] <Textbook> firefox has stopped responding about 20 times today
[05:02] <Pelo> astx813,  look at the bottom of the dialog box,  for other
[05:02] <Textbook> nope, 32
[05:02] <trogdor> Textbook: use x86 and quit being a punk :P
[05:02] <cyclonut> Textbook: I get random lockups, and incredible cpu usage
[05:02] <benn92647> indygunfreak/scguy318: 2.0.0beta6
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[05:02] <Textbook> trogdor: x86
[05:03] <cyclonut> and I am on x86
[05:03] <trogdor> Textbook: oh you are
[05:03] <scguy318> Textbook: its the crappy Flash plugin
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[05:03] <Pelo> Textbook, flash causses problems for some ppl
[05:03] <scguy318> Textbook: the latest Flash beta gives us.....hardware acceleration for Linux
[05:03] <cyclonut> Ive read about... gnash, is it?
[05:03] <sharap> When upgrading to Gutsy (using update manager) is there a way to have you manually merge customized configuration files instead of simply looking at a diff and selecting keep or replace?
[05:03] <scguy318> Textbook: sorely lacking
[05:03] <scguy318> cyclonut: yeah
[05:03] <ezzieyguywuf> hey guys, i'm running feisty with gnome, and yesterday i installed KDE to see what its like and now i have all the KDE apps showing up in my GNOME session. Someone pointed me to a link that helped me get rid of that but i've lost it, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:03] <scguy318> cyclonut: its far from perfect tho
[05:03] <alcaponage> Can anyone help guide me in installing avant-window-navigator?
[05:03] <MythbuntuGuest22> hello, How do i see my c: drive in konqueror?
[05:03] <Wolf23> pelo Couldn't find "/usr/share/amsn/~/amsn_received". plz che3ck the spelling and try again
[05:03] <Pelo> !gutsy | sharap
[05:03] <ubotu> sharap: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:03] <trogdor> Textbook, scguy318: there is adobe-nonfree in repository and if you go to flash needed site it auto installs now but I don't know if those are two different things, either way they work fine for me
[05:03] <cyclonut> scguy318: better than the basic flash plug by any chance?
[05:03] <astx813> Pelo, I want to see what it's actually using.  The bottom of 'open with other' just lets me add a different command line
[05:03] <Baumer> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu, Is there something besides the installation I have to do to get Intel Integrated graphics ( I think it's GMA 950) to work because all of my resolutions aren't available
[05:04] <Wolf23> Pelo:  it opens and show this message
[05:04] <leo_rockw> cyclonut, gnash lets you play swf files offline (no embbed)
[05:04] <Pelo> Wolf23,  what he hesk is hat line
[05:04] <cyclonut> leo_rockw: ah. so, useless.
[05:04] <Textbook> I have the latest flash, as far as I know
[05:04] <leo_rockw> cyclonut, it is free, tho
[05:04] <Pelo> Wolf23,   I think there is a #amsn channel  maybe you can try asking there
[05:04] <cyclonut> leo_rockw: I noticed that
[05:04] <gallius> why did my grub boot list get messed up when i ran the update manager??? I cant boot into windows now
[05:04] <ezzieyguywuf> help anyone?
[05:04] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  on what ?
[05:05] <trogdor> Textbook: I dunno then, I use adblock plus so I don't get glitchy flash ads that crash it, also use swiftweasel for my pentium 4 processor
[05:05] <Baumer> Anyone for what I said?
[05:05] <Textbook> flash version 9.0.48.0.0
[05:05] <Textbook> and I use adblock plus as well
[05:05] <ddr4> !ask | ezzieguywuf
[05:05] <ubotu> ezzieguywuf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:05] <alcaponage> Help me install avant-window-navigator please!
[05:05] <ezzieyguywuf> hey guys, i'm running feisty with gnome, and yesterday i installed KDE to see what its like and now i have all the KDE apps showing up in my GNOME session. Someone pointed me to a link that helped me get rid of that but i've lost it, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:05] <Pelo> gallius,  you'll need to add windows again , check in your /boot/grub/menu.lst  backup file for the correct lines to add
[05:05] <scguy318> Textbook: there is a beta out, though i wouldn't take the risk of installing
[05:05] <ddr4> !patience | alcaponage
[05:05] <ubotu> alcaponage: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:05] <cyclonut> alcaponage - get trevino's repository and go from there
[05:05] <gallius> ok ty
[05:05] <trogdor> ezzieyguywuf: yeah we help everyone except Pelo
[05:05] <cypher1> Baumer, i think you can try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:06] <scguy318> Textbook: but yes, its the stable plugin's fault, theres no hardware acceleration
[05:06] <anonymeeee> hi u guys!
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Could someone help me with ipmasq? (the package)
[05:06] <Pelo> alcaponage, just google for it and look for the ubuntu instructions they are clearly laid out
[05:06] <trogdor> Pelo: :P
[05:06] <alcaponage> I keep getting errors
[05:06] <Textbook> I'll look into the beta then
[05:06] <ezzieyguywuf> trogdor: huh?
[05:06] <Baumer> ok
[05:06] <t3318> anyone know how to change default theme in Ubuntu?
[05:06] <anonymeeee> anyone know how to batch edit file names?
[05:06] <cyclonut> Baumer- you may also need to use i915resolution (I think thats what its called)
[05:06] <Textbook> anything's better than it is now
[05:06] <anonymeeee> what editor should I use?
[05:06] <Wolf23> Pelo:  thanx it works now :
[05:06] <trogdor> ezzieyguywuf: nothing jk, anyway what the problem?
[05:06] <Wolf23> :0
[05:06] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  hold on  think I made a bookmark
[05:06] <kb3llm> guys i installed xubuntu-desktop and i cant get the resolution to go higher than 640x480 need some help
[05:06] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: cool
[05:06] <kb3llm> i played with xorg.conf to no avail
[05:07] <scguy318> kb3llm: backup xorg.conf and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[05:07] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,   but it will remove all the kde apps not just remove them from the menu
[05:07] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: the command to rename the file would be to move the file to it's new file (i think)
[05:07] <scguy318> kb3llm: you might have to adjust the horiz/vert refresh ranges in your xorg.conf also
[05:07] <trogdor> kb3llm: check /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure it has proper resolution, if its completely incorrect just do dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow along then edit that file to your liking
[05:07] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo:hm, actually, i think i'll just remove KDE all together
[05:07] <cypher1> Baumer, i think in feistry the xorg driver may be sufficient, if not as cyclonut mentioned try installing i915resolution also
[05:07] <kb3llm> scguy318: how do i know what to put?
[05:07] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm gonna upgrade to gutsy soon anyways....
[05:07] <trogdor> kb3llm: I also suggest checking your monitor at www.monitorworld.com for right refresh values
[05:07] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  hold on , I have the wrong book mark  I need to do a bit more searching
[05:07] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[05:08] <kb3llm> trogdor: i'm on text only right now.. i cant.  if you want to do it for me, Dell E207WFP
[05:08] <dnian> oi
[05:08] <ajisin> ok ftp server not wrking
[05:08] <dnian> oiiii
[05:08] <ajisin> can anyone tell me how to share folder thro internet?
[05:08] <trogdor> kb3llm: you can do anything from text mode, tinyirc, w3m browser, nano editor
[05:08] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: i need to change the file name of a bunch of mp3s
[05:08] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: in ubuntu/linux, batchs would be shell scripting (sh)
[05:08] <dnian> alguem fala portugues?
[05:08] <ezzieyguywuf> another separate questoin. My t60p is having temperature problems in that if i leave it on all day, it gets super hot (up to and over 70 degress celcius). any suggestions? i usually use suspend when away for long periods, but it is too buggy to be reliable for me...
[05:08] <anonymeeee> the filenames are too long for windoze
[05:08] <foug> how can i enable idle time reporting through keyboard/mouse movement in pidgin?
[05:08] <trogdor> kb3llm: can even watch ascii movies if you got mplayer set right ^^
[05:08] <cyclonut> ajisin- I dont think you really want to do that.
[05:08] <kb3llm> lol.
[05:09] <cyclonut> ajisin: what are you trying to acomplish>?
[05:09] <dnian> Oie
[05:09] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: how is that possible?
[05:09] <dnian> Boa noite!!!!!!
[05:09] <ajisin> cyclonut	: i want to share my folders
[05:09] <dnian> Hi
[05:09] <ajisin> on internet only one folder
[05:09] <cyclonut> ajisin: with peoplle all over the world??!
[05:09] <ddr4> dnian, wtf ?
[05:09] <dnian> World?
[05:09] <ddr4> dnian,lol hello :P
[05:09] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: unless you mean like 98
[05:09] <dnian> What is it?
[05:09] <ajisin> yes all oevr the world
[05:09] <GNine> !br | dnian
[05:09] <ubotu> dnian: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:09] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf, ok look about 3/4 of the way down this link,  there is one big  10 lines long coomand , you put that in the terminal  , after it is completed you run  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ( the first one will remove all kubuntu-desktop, and the second will restore the package that might have been remove that are needed by ubuntu)
[05:10] <dnian> i don't speak in english
[05:10] <scguy318> dnian: its something that some of us lack, given that we hang out on Freenode :P
[05:10] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-466243.html
[05:10] <scguy318> !br | dnian
[05:10] <dnian> BRASIL
[05:10] <dnian> s2
[05:10] <NemesisD> can anyone tell me why when i try to read or write from my tape drive I get a ton of errors in dmesg along the lines of  sr 2:0:1:0: Device not ready: <6>: Current: sense key: Not Ready; Additional sense: Medium not present;
[05:10] <scguy318> !br > dnian
[05:10] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: thanks
[05:10] <t3318> anyone know how to change default theme in Ubuntu?
[05:10] <foug> how can i enable idle time reporting through keyboard/mouse movement in pidgin?
[05:10] <Pelo> dnian,   /join #ubuntu-br
[05:10] <ajisin> cyclonut: yes all over the world
[05:10] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: anyway, how do you want them renamed
[05:10] <dnian> thanks
[05:10] <ezzieyguywuf> brb guys
[05:10] <cyclonut> t3318: system->preferences->themes
[05:10] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: dunno how it's happening, but the end of the file gets cut off when I try to transfer it to a dvd
[05:10] <Baumer> Sweet 915resolution should do the trick, thanks cyclonut
[05:10] <cyclonut> np Baumer.
[05:11] <t3318> cyclonut: thanks, but that's not i want
[05:11] <anonymeeee> I just need the torrent info removed
[05:11] <dnian> What you want
[05:11] <dnian> ???
[05:11] <ajisin> cyclonut: so can you help me out?
[05:11] <t3318> cyclonut: i mean we change the theme of default user
[05:11] <dnian> Do you know Maron five?
[05:11] <scguy318> dnian: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:11] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: it's cutting off the .mp3 end of the file name...
[05:11] <scguy318> a nice copy and paste job :P
[05:11] <cyclonut> ajisin: I guess I would install apache, and move the folder to your serving directory
[05:11] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: oh...
[05:11] <borovy3488> can anyone help me with azureus NAT problems????
[05:11] <dnian> bye
[05:11] <scguy318> borovy3488: port forward?
[05:11] <borovy3488> yes, i think so
[05:11] <Pelo> borovy3488,  the ppl in #azureus-support can
[05:11] <dnian> i can't
[05:12] <cyclonut> ajisin: that way you can just go to your computer's IP from anywhere in the world and grab that folder's contents
[05:12] <borovy3488> i did it in my router and it is still white in azureus
[05:12] <scguy318> borovy3488: well, your port forward configuration must be wrong I guess, else you wouldn't get the NAT error ;)
[05:12] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: btw just found "prename" and "rename" commands, i'm going to check the man files
[05:12] <cyclonut> ajisin: Better yet, set up SSH so you can tunnel into your computer from anywhere. Much more secure.
[05:12] <cyclonut> t3318: Not sure on that one.
[05:12] <Pelo> borovy3488,  can I recommend  deluge-torrent or utorrent running on wine
[05:12] <NetDude> hi all
[05:13] <ezzieyguywuf> another separate questoin. My t60p is having temperature problems in that if i leave it on all day, it gets super hot (up to and over 70 degress celcius). any suggestions? i usually use suspend when away for long periods, but it is too buggy to be reliable for me...
[05:13] <scguy318> borovy3488: you could re-test again, if it says OK, you should be good
[05:13] <borovy3488> PELO: do you think it would not have the same NAT error?
[05:13] <NetDude> help for dynagen running?
[05:13] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  cpufreq  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[05:13] <scguy318> borovy3488: well, your port forward configuration must be wrong I guess, else you wouldn't get the NAT error ;)
[05:13] <scguy318> borovy3488: you could re-test again, if it says OK, you should be good
[05:13] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: thanks
[05:13] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: thank you
[05:13] <Pelo> borovy3488,  azurues is notorious for false nat errors
[05:13] <aschaetter> Hi all I've been trying to install sim city 3000 unlimited (native linux version) on feisty and i am have problems almost exactly like the person in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541215&highlight=sc3u     This sounds like an x server bug, but how could other feisty users install?
[05:13] <scguy318> ezzieguywuf: mm, suspend? not sure how well that would work, since suspend doesnt seem to work out for you
[05:14] <scguy318> ezzieguywuf: i meant hibernate
[05:14] <Pelo> borovy3488,  and hellish to fix,  I know I did support in there for 6 months
[05:14] <NetDude> help for dynagen running?
[05:14] <scguy318> ezzieguywuf: or, just, turn it off :) or vent your machine a little better
[05:14] <ajisin> cyclonut: how to do that?
[05:14] <borovy3488> Pelo: thanks. I did test it again and it says it is ok, but the best speed I can get is 3KBs
[05:14] <NetDude> help for  dynagen problem ?
[05:14] <scguy318> borovy3488: bad torrent?
[05:14] <NetDude> help for  dynagen problem ? does it access internet
[05:14] <scguy318> Pelo: well, the whole port forward business is hardly Azureus specific :P
[05:15] <scguy318> NetDude: whats Dynagen?
[05:15] <Pelo> borovy3488,  not all torrents are created equal,  try  an ubuntu torrent ,  they are usualy quite fast
[05:15] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: apaerentaly, "prename" and "rename" are the same. it uses a perl expression. not familar with perl, but how do you want them renamed
[05:15] <borovy3488> i thought that too, NetDude, but I also tried to download a torrent I recently downloaded in windows, and it didn't work at all.
[05:15] <cyclonut> ajisin: http://www.suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf
[05:15] <scguy318> borovy3488: addressing the wrong person :)
[05:15] <NetDude> scguy318, its free network simulator which uses cisco ios
[05:15] <Pelo> scguy318,  I never had to do has much NAT troubleshooting when I hung out in #utorrent
[05:15] <cyclonut> ajisin: Basically, learn to use SSH, then do ssh username@yourip
[05:16] <MythbuntuGuest22> if i am using a knoppix live cd can i fdisk my c: drive? and how do i do it? how do i see my drive
[05:16] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: i just want a certain section of the file name removed if thats possible...it's 100 songs
[05:16] <scguy318> MythubuntuGuest22: what's the "C:" drive, since Linux has a different notion of hard drive identification
[05:16] <NetDude> borovy3488, you need to download cisco ios
[05:16] <Baumer> Does anyone elses screen flip out with distorted colors right before The ubuntu load screen comes up ( I guess when the X-server turns on?)
[05:16] <trogdor> anonymeeee: I remember xubuntu had this rename program you could try checking for that, think its built into thunar or something
[05:16] <scguy318> Baumer: not mine
[05:16] <NetDude> borovy3488, for ysing dynagen
[05:16] <knopper67> mine does...
[05:16] <aschaetter> Hi all I've been trying to install sim city 3000 unlimited (native linux version) on feisty and i am have problems almost exactly like the person in here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541215&highlight=sc3u     This sounds like an x server bug, but how could other feisty users install?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> MythbuntuGuest22, fire up gparted or qtparted
[05:17] <cyclonut> ajisin: it is quite helpful to have a static IP, btw.
[05:17] <Pelo> anonymeeee,  look in add/remove  search for rename , it's part of thunar ( another file manager) lets you bulk rename files
[05:17] <Baumer> So that's not normal or is normal
[05:17] <borovy3488> NetDude: where can I get it and how do i install it. never heard of it before
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest22> scguy318, i want to format my master and install kubuntu
[05:17] <scguy318> Baumer: not normal
[05:17] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: is thepart the same for each file?
[05:17] <knopper67> im guess its normal, but it looks wierd
[05:17] <scguy318> MythbuntuGuest22: well, does the installer not do that for you?
[05:17] <ajisin> i hv a static ip
[05:17] <NetDude> borovy3488, what os r u using
[05:17] <scguy318> MythbuntuGuest22: the GUI installer should walk you through the partitioning process
[05:17] <anonymeeee> Ashfire908: yes
[05:17] <MythbuntuGuest22> is gparted on the knopix cd
[05:17] <Ashfire908> anonymeeee: what is it
[05:17] <scguy318> MythubuntuGuest22: i dunno, but probably I suppose
[05:17] <Pelo> aschaetter,  you mght have better luck in a simcity forum or a sim city channel
[05:18] <cyclonut> ajisin: then you can just do ssh ajisin@yourip and grab what you need that way
[05:18] <borovy3488> NetDude: Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty
[05:18] <aschaetter> pelo: is there a sim city linux chan?
[05:18] <Pelo> aschaetter,  no idea
[05:18] <aschaetter> pelo: haha! thanks
[05:18] <Innomen> ok xp installed
[05:18] <anonymeeee> Pelo: How to I bring up thunar?
[05:18] <NetDude> borovy3488, then why u download for windows?
[05:19] <Innomen> anything i need to do in prep for the ubuntu install?
[05:19] <kb3llm> For horizontal sync range, should i just put 65 (thats what my monitor specs say)
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest22> well that is my problem.. my cd rom barley works so i cant get through the installer
[05:19] <NetDude> borovy3488, there is linux version
[05:19] <kb3llm> but it wants a range
[05:19] <usser> Innomen: backup all u can
[05:19] <scguy318> kb3llm: yeah, just fill in the proper ranges
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest22> i want to try to insall without cd
[05:19] <ezzieyguywuf> scguy: thanks for the advice (a while back) but i'd rather not have to turn my comp off everytime i leave my dorm for a few hours, and you are right suspend does not work well for me
[05:19] <Innomen> already done that
[05:19] <kb3llm> scguy318: but 65 isn't a range... its number, is it ok?
[05:19] <scguy318> !install | MythbuntuGuest22
[05:19] <Pelo> anonymeeee,   menu > applications > add/remove  , search for rename  , install ,  it will show up in the menuss under ssytem tools
[05:19] <ubotu> MythbuntuGuest22: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[05:19] <scguy318> kb3llm: yeah, stick that as upper range
[05:19] <MythbuntuGuest22> ok thanks
[05:19] <ajisin> cyclonut: what is this youripe?
[05:20] <borovy3488> NetDude: no, I installed azureus in linux. i also have a windows pc.  my torrents werent working in linux, so i downloaded the same torrent in windows and linux. the linux one didnt work and the windows one did.
[05:20] <ajisin> sry ourip
[05:20] <kb3llm> scguy318: and a lower one?
[05:20] <ajisin> yourip
[05:20] <usser> Innomen: well thats it probably should have checked your hardware for compatibility but wth it'll work
[05:20] <cyclonut> ajisin: dude. use your head. its your ip address.
[05:20] <kb3llm> scguy318: just pick a lower number?
[05:20] <trogdor> aschaetter: look for the programs config file make sure graphics settings are right, also make sure you have direct rendering glxinfo | grep "direct"
[05:20] <kb3llm> scguy318: ??
[05:20] <Innomen> what could Possibly go wrong?
[05:21] <foug> how can i enable idle time reporting through keyboard/mouse movement in pidgin?
[05:21] <ajisin> ok my head was taking a bth befoe :P
[05:21] <NetDude> borovy3488, do you want me to tell u how to runn on windows or linux???????????
[05:21] <scguy318> kb3llm: what is your monitor?
[05:21] <Pelo> Innomen,  can you restate yoru problem ?
[05:21] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me install AWN please?
[05:21] <scguy318> kb3llm: find the specs for your monitor, then fill in for the horiz/vert sync ranges
[05:21] <usser> Innomen: not much the most problems people have is video not working when booting live cd with ati cards nvidia should be fine
[05:21] <scguy318> kb3llm: that will permit the X Server to properly detect all your monitor's modes
[05:21] <Innomen> no problems, just asking general advice about duel boot, i'm starting the install of ubuntu 7.04 now
[05:22] <Pelo> alcaponage,   google for avant windows navigator ,  there is an install section for ubuntu
[05:22] <usser> Innomen: do u have windows installed already?
[05:22] <cyclonut> ajisin: I think your ip is 210.214.91.185... so ssh ajisin@210.214.91.185
[05:22] <alcaponage> Pelo: I already have it under "system" but it wont' load
[05:22] <Pelo> Innomen, same hdd or different one ?
[05:22] <Innomen> same
[05:22] <kb3llm> scguy318: yeah, that didn't work. it got an error, and didn't start, so i put the old one back.
[05:22] <kb3llm> I will work on it tomorrow
[05:22] <borovy3488> NetDude: my only problems are in linux. Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty. In windoze everything works.
[05:22] <Pelo> alcaponage, that'S not where you start ti from,  in applications accessories
[05:22] <scguy318> kb3llm: ok, g/l
[05:22] <bmt2> hello to all
[05:22] <NetDude> do you have ios?
[05:22] <alcaponage> Pelo: Ic, let me check
[05:23] <bmt2> i am having a problem in Wine
[05:23] <Pelo> Innomen,  back up yoru imoportant windows data first,   defrag your hdd a few times,  then boot up the live cd and go go go
[05:23] <scguy318> bmt2: what is it
[05:23] <bmt2> i installed flash 2004 mx thru wine
[05:23] <Innomen> bmt2: hey thats good, the first step is admitting you have a problem
[05:23] <Innomen> wait, wrong wine
[05:23] <bmt2> now i can't get it to run
[05:23] <scguy318> Pelo: random comment, but the latest ntfsresize man page seems to say that a defrag isnt necessary
[05:23] <DShepherd> Innomen, :-)
[05:23] <Innomen> :)
[05:23] <usser> Innomen: for same hdd be carefull when it comes to partitioning, dont push yes blindly
[05:23] <Innomen> thank you
[05:23] <Pelo> scguy318, so what
[05:23] <Innomen> usser: indeed
[05:24] <borovy3488> NetDude: what is ios?
[05:24] <foug> how can i enable idle time reporting through keyboard/mouse movement in pidgin?
[05:24] <bmt2> i also installed swishmax and can't get it to run
[05:24] <alcaponage> Pelo: thanks
[05:24] <usser> Innomen: u generally want one root partition '/' one 'swap' and optionally /home
[05:24] <NetDude> borovy3488, visit the link click the image for for video how to install it on linux?
[05:24] <Pelo> scguy318,  the point of degraging isnT, for safety , it is to reduce the time of the resizing , data doesn'T have to be moved around
[05:24] <Innomen> whats a good drive size for ubuntu?
[05:24] <davida9> hi
[05:24] <davida9> new to this, totally
[05:24] <NetDude> borovy3488, http://www.blindhog.net/cisco-dynamips-and-dynagen-install-on-linux/
[05:25] <usser> Innomen: anything more than 20Gb should be reasonable
[05:25] <bmt2> i get a "couldn't load API function" when trying to run SwishMax
[05:25] <NetDude> borovy3488, here the link
[05:25] <Innomen> cool
[05:25] <borovy3488> NetDude: ok, thanks
[05:25] <Pelo> Innomen,   5-10 for /  , 2xram for /swap , whatever you want for /home
[05:25] <borovy3488> NetDude: should that work?
[05:25] <Innomen> i'll do 40 because i'm like the navy
[05:25] <DShepherd> foug, Tools, preferences, Idle Tab. i think..
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Innomen, ~ 5 GIG for Ubuntu itself
[05:25] <Innomen> wow
[05:25] <NetDude> borovy3488, thank not complete ....there more?
[05:25] <Innomen> sweet i might do just 20 then
[05:25] <scguy318> bmt2: try asking in #winehq
[05:25] <Innomen> 20/3
[05:25] <usser> Innomen: 5G thats with all the programs
[05:25] <scguy318> Pelo: ah
[05:25] <bmt2> scguy318: thanks i will
[05:25] <Innomen> is 20 over kill??
[05:26] <usser> Innomen: not really
[05:26] <Innomen> oky
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Innomen, Well you are going to have other files aren't you ? ;)
[05:26] <DShepherd> Innomen, close though
[05:26] <scguy318> Innomen: for /? thats fine
[05:26] <foug> DShepherd, no it's not there
[05:26] <Innomen> yes but on other drives
[05:26] <knopper67> hey is there a general ubuntu chat channel on irc?
[05:26] <borovy3488> NetDude: what does it do? how do i configure it? very confusing
[05:26] <usser> Innomen: the beauty of linux is if u run out of space u can always mount another hdd where u want
[05:26] <scguy318> Innomen: for swap, probably 1x or 0.5x the RAM you got
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Innomen, You can never have too much hard drive space
[05:26] <foug> DShepherd, i've had this problem before, pidgin doesn't come with the option. I downloaded xscreensver but it didn't help
[05:26] <knopper67> cant find any...
[05:26] <Pelo> Innomen, if you only do 20 you'll kick yourself in a few weeks when you reaslise you'Re not using windows anymore and it has all your space
[05:26] <Innomen> yea but i like to keep my os goodness seperate
[05:26] <alcaponage> Where can I get themes of AWN?
[05:27] <Innomen> pelo, keeping xp for games
[05:27] <Innomen> trrust me i'll use the space
[05:27] <Innomen> :)
[05:27] <DShepherd> foug, hmm ... try asking in #pidgin then
[05:27] <Pelo> alcaponage,   www.gnome-looks.org
[05:27] <alcaponage> Pelo thanks
[05:27] <anonymeeee> Pelo: thunar worked perfectly, thanks a lot!
[05:27] <NetDude> borovy3488, are you doing ccna? have you use netsim the network simulator?
[05:27] <cyclonut> alcaponage: check out google for easy answers like that, eh?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, also art.gnome.org
[05:27] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: you referenced me to cpufreq in order to help my temp problems, but it appears to me as if cpu frequency is on and workin, so what other options do i have?
[05:27] <NetDude> borovy3488, dyanagen is advance version of netsim?
[05:27] <Pelo> anonymeeee,  isn'T that the most awesome little app around ?
[05:28] <borovy3488> NetDude: I am kind of a novice on the whole network thing and to tell you the truth, I have no idea what that stuff is.
[05:28] <Jordan_U> alcaponage, Actually, maybe not, but worth a look
[05:28] <Innomen> !thunar
[05:28] <ubotu> thunar is a File Manager for XFCE. It's a good lightweight replacement for Nautilus and is very similar. To read more about thunar, visit http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html or, if you would like to use it, visit your nearest Main repository.
[05:28] <usser> !thunar
[05:28] <usser> arrg
[05:28] <Innomen> :P
[05:28] <alcaponage> Pelo: where in gnome-look.org is the themes of AWN located?
[05:28] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  well if this is a laptop I don'T know ,  you don'T have fans so i'm out of suggestion,
[05:28] <anonymeeee> Pelo: absolutely!  way cool!  saved me a bunch of time
[05:28] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: alright well thanks anyway
[05:29] <theATOM> how can I convert .3gp files to AVI or MPEG?
[05:29] <Pelo> Innomen,   it's not so much thunar , it' a little app that comes with it , it does bulk rename
[05:29] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: but i think my laptop does have a fan in it
[05:29] <ajisin> cyclonut: but where tu write that? and another thing i doenloaded apache how to install it now? not getting intsall as der in install guide
[05:29] <NetDude> borovy3488, it's the network simulator which uses the cisco internetworking operating system (IOS) which is cisoc proprietry used is cisoc router & switches?
[05:29] <Innomen> cool
[05:29] <Pelo> ezzieyguywuf,  try looking in th efourm for   help on this , I'm sure there are several threads about it  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:29] <Innomen> renaming can be a pain
[05:29] <Innomen> i learned to write batch files back in teh day because of renaming hassles
[05:30] <ezzieyguywuf> pelo: thanks
[05:30] <cyclonut> ajisin: forget apache.
[05:30] <coreymanshack> !?
[05:30] <cyclonut> ajisin: you would type in that command in a terminal.
[05:30] <coreymanshack> apache - awesomeest
[05:30] <ajisin> k
[05:30] <theATOM> how can I convert .3gp files to AVI or MPEG?
[05:30] <NetDude> borovy3488,  you can have live demonstration & feel of working on cisoc router ?
[05:30] <Pelo> Innomen,  this one lets you do several thinkgs, insert /remove (position) ,  replace,  number  etc
[05:31] <cyclonut> alcaponage - try actually searching for AWN at that site.
[05:31] <cyclonut> seriously, you can do this on your own, I have great faith.
[05:31] <Pelo> theATOM,  try using avidemux
[05:31] <Dr_willis> theATOM,  try avidemux - a small editing software for avi (especially DivX)
[05:31] <alcaponage> lol
[05:31] <alcaponage> ic
[05:31] <alcaponage> the search bar is so small
[05:32] <ajisin> cyclonut: and my ip is a static ip so its 10.19.183.137
[05:32] <theATOM> !avidemux
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avidemux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <cyclonut> ajisin: congratulations.
[05:32] <Innomen> dammit
[05:32] <cyclonut> hehe
[05:32] <Innomen> theubuntu installer is garbage
[05:32] <darkchr0n0s> ajisin got his ftp server up ?
[05:32] <Pelo> theATOM, sudo apt-get install avidemux
[05:32] <ajisin> cyclonut: hey? congrats? for what?
[05:32] <Pelo> Innomen,  what's wrong ?
[05:32] <ajisin> nop not got
[05:32] <Innomen> i hit back and it jumped like 4 spaces back and now want to run the paritioner again but its already cut up the drive
[05:33] <cyclonut> ajisin: NM
[05:33] <NetDude> help for  dynagen problem ?
[05:33] <cyclonut> ajisin: feeling very sarcastic tonight
[05:33] <Innomen> if back dosent work, dont include the button
[05:33] <NetDude> help for  dynagen problem ?
[05:33] <NetDude> help for  dynagen problem ?
[05:33] <ajisin> k..... :d
[05:33] <Innomen> i know better than to hope it works
[05:33] <ajisin> :D
[05:33] <scguy318> NetDude: this probably isn't a good channel to ask
[05:33] <Innomen> get to reinstall xp
[05:33] <Innomen> and format the drive again
[05:33] <Innomen> save me 5 hours of hassle
[05:33] <Innomen> the partioner needs ot learn to resume
[05:34] <Pelo> Innomen,   get out of the installer and go to menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor ,  do your partitionning,  and when you install use the  manual option to specify your folder locations
[05:34] <Innomen> needs ot be able to tell "hey something already did exactly what i was gunna do to this drive
[05:34] <ajisin> it's uduntu channel but i not yet got any help how to use my desktop as a server
[05:34] <NetDude> scguy318, can you tell me which channel should i ask please ?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  thats how i do it. :)
[05:34] <Innomen> watch it wont resize it
[05:34] <scguy318> NetDude: i dunno, /list?
[05:34] <Innomen> brb
[05:34] <darkchr0n0s> downloading at 31bytes/sec !
[05:34] <theATOM> Pelo: avidemux doesnt save the AVI with sound!  why?
[05:34] <Innomen> see?
[05:34] <Innomen> error occuered
[05:34] <Ashfire908> NetDude: if dynagen is a command, type man dynagen
[05:34] <Innomen> every time
[05:35] <Innomen> check file system
[05:35] <scguy318> Ashfire908: it's not, its some networking simulation app
[05:35] <Innomen> Gah
[05:35] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  well you and I are old hands at this now , what's it been ? over a year ?
[05:35] <scguy318> Innomen: NTFS? dirty flag set?
[05:35] <Ashfire908> scguy318: k. i was skimming
[05:35] <Innomen> who knows
[05:35] <Pelo> theATOM,   look on the left,   wherer it says copy , change it ,  to something else
[05:35] <Ashfire908> !enter | Innomen
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  i have found its better to just  leave a lot unallocated and tell the insteller to 'use unallocated space'
[05:35] <ubotu> Innomen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:35] <scguy318> Ashfire908: np
[05:35] <scguy318> Innomen: if thats the case
[05:35] <Innomen> whatever the ubuntu installer does when it tries ot do the automated resize twice on the same drive
[05:35] <scguy318> Innomen: then a simple chkdsk on the NTFS
[05:36] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  I like my /home on a seperate partition
[05:36] <Innomen> no this happened last night and sucked up 5 hours
[05:36] <ajisin> :( :( i wanna use mudesktop as a server :( any smiley here for crying?
[05:36] <Ashfire908> Innomen: you can't resize a ntfs drive?
[05:36] <scguy318> Innomen: i personally like to partition beforehand and just give the installer the mount points
[05:36] <Innomen> are there developers here ever? do they read this?
[05:36] <Pelo> !enter | Innomen
[05:36] <ubotu> Innomen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:36] <scguy318> Innomen: probably not, too crowded, you could file a bug tho
[05:36] <Ashfire908> Innomen: sorry, partition
[05:36] <cyclonut> ajisin: I think you should resort to google, or even searching the ubuntuforums.
[05:36] <Intangir> hey
[05:36] <scguy318> Innomen: i dunno what the dev chans are
[05:36] <Pelo> Innomen,  devs are too cool to hangout here
[05:36] <Intangir> whats a good bittorrent client for linux?
[05:37] <Intangir> the standard bittorrent seems to be sucking..
[05:37] <Innomen> ubuntu for humans (not really)
[05:37] <DShepherd> Intangir, Deluge
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I think the devs hang in #hot-linux-chat :)
[05:37] <Innomen> oh well
[05:37] <scguy318> !bt
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <scguy318> !p2p
[05:37] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:37] <Intangir> connects to only 1 peer? for 12 hours?
[05:37] <knopper_> Azureus is the best client
[05:37] <Innomen> still better than windows
[05:37] <NetDude> Intangir, rtorrent
[05:37] <scguy318> !torrent | Intangir
[05:37] <ubotu> Intangir: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:37] <frostburn> Intangir, azureus, but get the latest from sourceforge, and the sun jre from the synaptic package manager
[05:37] <Pelo> Intangir,  deluge-torrent is nice and getting better but I like to run utorrent on wine
[05:37] <scguy318> Dr_willis: that sounds really inappropriate ;)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> scguy318,  its where my wife hangs out...
[05:37] <darkchr0n0s> any command line torrent clients ?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> darkchr0n0s,  rtorrent
[05:38] <Intangir> oh also, which bittorrent clients can i use in text only?
[05:38] <Innomen> the ubuntu installer cant figure out my time zone either
[05:38] <knopper_> i dont use azureus but i'd still recommend it
[05:38] <scguy318> Innomen: you're supposed to specify I believe
[05:38] <Innomen> yea
[05:38] <Pelo> Innomen,  just click the map
[05:38] <Innomen> i did
[05:38] <Innomen> you guysa think i'm we todd ed
[05:38] <scguy318> Innomen: we don't
[05:38] <Innomen> i clicked al the flavors of eastern
[05:38] <Pelo> Innomen,  pretty much
[05:38] <Innomen> it's always like 1-3 hours off
[05:38] <darkchr0n0s> what does that mean anyways /
[05:38] <scguy318> Innomen: if we did, we wouldn't answer you, or we would start flaming
[05:38] <Innomen> my syste clock is fine
[05:39] <Innomen> heheh
[05:39] <PKdoR> I just dounloaded the azureus tar ballz can any body walk me through installing it?
[05:39] <Pelo> Innomen, tere is also a drop down list
[05:39] <Innomen> well dont tell me to click the map :P
[05:39] <cyclonut> PKdoR: there is an easier way...
[05:39] <darkchr0n0s> PKdoR instead use sudo aptitude install azureus
[05:39] <Innomen> yes, i know how to operate a menu also lol yur not hearing me
[05:39] <cyclonut> PKdoR:  sudo apt-get install azureus
[05:39] <ajisin> i searched alot man
[05:39] <Pelo> PKdoR,  azureus is available from the repos   sudo apt-get install azureus
[05:39] <Innomen> it cant do gmt -5
[05:39] <scguy318> Innomen: sure it can, I'm in GMT -5
[05:39] <Innomen> there's this narrow strip where i live
[05:39] <rolandd> anybody knows which repo has pidgin in it?
[05:39] <Pelo> Innomen,  where are you located ?
[05:39] <Innomen> well i do it during the installer and it says its midnight
[05:40] <scguy318> Innomen: that happens to be Central Daylight right now, cant wait to switch clocks :(
[05:40] <ajisin> m logging out from here pla email me if you hv any info.. love_prone@yahoo.com
[05:40] <Pelo> Innomen,  don'T worry about that, it gets corrected
[05:40] <ajisin> seeya.....
[05:40] <Innomen> gmt -5 is my zone, but when i tell it that oit does the math wrong or something
[05:40] <ajisin> see ya
[05:40] <PKdoR> im trying to install version 3.0.3.0 I believe the repos have version 2.5
[05:40] <Ashfire908> Innomen: your bios clock might be already set to a timezone.
[05:40] <Innomen> i'm sure
[05:40] <Innomen> just dosent bode well you know?
[05:40] <scguy318> Innomen: lemme see what I got for central
[05:40] <DShepherd> rolandd, gutsy repos have pidgin in it.. but you may have to dist-upgrade to get that
[05:40] <Innomen> commenting on egenral installer issues
[05:40] <scguy318> DShepherd: dist-upgrading to Gutsy isn't recommended I think
[05:40] <dbkim> hi all,
[05:41] <PKdoR> I love the HD content the Vuze has (Azureus 3.x
[05:41] <DShepherd> scguy318, ok.. rolandd dont dist-upgrade!! :-)
[05:41] <NetDude> help for  is dynagen a security threat??????????????
[05:41] <rolandd> LOL, OK
[05:41] <dbkim> does anyone know what is acpid and apmd service on ubuntu?
[05:41] <scguy318> NetDude: probably not...
[05:41] <rolandd> so then I just have to do a manual install
[05:41] <scguy318> Innomen: well, I think a bug report would probably garner more attention than here :)
[05:41] <DShepherd> rolandd, 15 days from now.. you can though :-)
[05:41] <dbkim> can I remove those two service?
[05:41] <Innomen> !bugreport
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugreport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <scguy318> Innomen: though I'm not wholly familiar with the user feedback services of this community
[05:41] <cyclonut> dbkim: no, I wouldnt
[05:41] <Pelo> dbkim,   hardware sensors related stuff I beleive , donT' mess with them
[05:42] <scguy318> dbkim: acpid handles ACPI events
[05:42] <scguy318> dbkim: apmd handles APM events
[05:42] <dbkim> cyclonut, oh ok
[05:42] <Pelo> !launchpad | Innomen
[05:42] <ubotu> Innomen: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:42] <Innomen> is there an app that will sync two installed of ubuntu?
[05:42] <dbkim> scguy318, so I can't delete them then
[05:42] <cyclonut> dbkim: acpi handles power management/chip throttling
[05:42] <Innomen> thanky Pelo
[05:42] <NetDude> scguy318, i am using it on us server form japan is it a security threat ?
[05:42] <dbkim> cyclonut, oh okay...
[05:42] <Pelo> Innomen,  synch two install ?
[05:43] <scguy318> NetDude: probably not, though I really dunno
[05:43] <dbkim> cyclonut, I'm making my ubuntu as small as possible
[05:43] <Innomen> NetDude: Sailor moon? need i say more?
[05:43] <scguy318> NetDude: i just know you probably won't get much help from here :(
[05:43] <dbkim> cyclonut, =) thanks for the information
[05:43] <cyclonut> dbkim: np, good luck with the tiny install :)
[05:43] <Oetmet> I've lost my Linux partition when trying to resize the extended partition in Windows using Partition Magic. Anyway I think my data is somewhere in my hard disk!
[05:43] <PKdoR> yup the repos have version 2.5 I just double checked, so can any one please walk me trough on installine azureus/Vuze 3.0.3.0?
[05:43] <Oetmet> is there some way I can recover my data?
[05:43] <scguy318> Oetmet: testdisk
[05:44] <Oetmet> scguy318: I used testdisk and it re-wrote the partition table
[05:44] <Innomen> supergrub!
[05:44] <Pelo> Oetmet,  I think you might find more help on this in ##linux
[05:44] <Innomen> !supergrub
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Innomen> wow
[05:44] <Innomen> there should be a super grub entry
[05:44] <scguy318> Oetmet: http://rescubuntu.info/, the LInux System Rescue CD if comfy with cmd-line
[05:44] <Oetmet> but now my linux partition seems to have used like 30 mb of space
[05:44] <Pelo> !grub | Innomen  last links bottom of the page
[05:44] <ubotu> Innomen  last links bottom of the page: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:44] <Oetmet> when I had like 5 gigs of used space
[05:44] <demon_spork> PKdoR, I like Ktorrent better than Azureus
[05:44] <Innomen> not grub
[05:44] <NetDude> scguy318, i really i am new for irc i dont know much channel to ask
[05:44] <Innomen> "supergrub"
[05:44] <Innomen> its a boot image
[05:44] <Pelo> Innomen,  as in supergrub cd ?
[05:44] <scguy318> NetDude: try looking at a list of channels via /list
[05:45] <Innomen> it saved all mah data
[05:45] <Innomen> yea
[05:45] <Pelo> nvm
[05:45] <Pelo> !backup | Innomen
[05:45] <scguy318> Innomen: it just fixes boot problems, not fubared file systems
[05:45] <ubotu> Innomen: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:45] <sir123> I'm trying to connect my ipac pda to evolution but i don't know what port to put in
[05:45] <Innomen> scguy318: thats not entierly true
[05:45] <dbkim> cyclonut, hey one more question =P execuse me
[05:45] <Innomen> my windows would not boot because of a mbr issue
[05:45] <scguy318> Innomen: but that's a boot issue :)
[05:45] <dbkim> cyclonut, can I delete dbus?
[05:45] <Innomen> it force booted it
[05:45] <PKdoR> demon_spork:  that my be, but the reason I like Vuze is cause of the free HD content not to mention the great customizing potential of azureus
[05:45] <Innomen> oky
[05:46] <scguy318> Innomen: a trashed file system would be a different story :P
[05:46] <Innomen> *shrugs*
[05:46] <Innomen> hey at the very least it's make him feel like he tried
[05:46] <scguy318> dbkim: might not be a good idea, I know some GNOME services like to use it
[05:46] <Innomen> :)
[05:46] <cyclonut> dbkim: Im not really sure
[05:46] <dbkim> scguy318, oh I see
[05:46] <dbkim> scguy318, thanks again =)
[05:46] <scguy318> dbkim: np
[05:46] <cyclonut> dbkim: but I think not; I believe many pieces of software use it to communicate with the lower-level layers
[05:47] <scguy318> now I wish they would have an easy end-user backup solution :)
[05:47] <zetheroo> how do I know what port my iPaq is on?
[05:47] <Innomen> is there anything like ghost for ubuntu?
[05:47] <scguy318> Innomen: partimage
[05:47] <knopper_> ghost4linux? lol i think its called that
[05:47] <scguy318> Innomen: dd :P
[05:47] <Pelo> zetheroo, how do you connect your ipaq ?
[05:47] <Innomen> dd?
[05:47] <dbkim> cyclonut, okay then =P let it survive
[05:47] <zetheroo> Pelo  : USB
[05:48] <scguy318> Innomen: low level file copy utility
[05:48] <Innomen> oh
[05:48] <Pelo> zetheroo,   lsusb  with the ipaq connected
[05:48] <rolandd> I have 4 speakers attached to my soundcard SB 512PCI but only get sound out of 2 of them
[05:48] <scguy318> Innomen: well, not strictly a file in the filesystem sense
[05:48] <rolandd> an I select somewhere to use 4 speakers?
[05:48] <patrickkkkkkkkkk> is there a way to change the trash icon in the themes?
[05:48] <scguy318> Innomen: in the case of imaging, you would usually feed it a nice /dev file
[05:48] <zetheroo> Pelo : I did that ... but how do I know in Evolution which port is which?
[05:48] <rolandd> been looking through the sound settings but cant seem to find it
[05:48] <scguy318> Innomen: typically for compressability you would pipe it to gzip
[05:48] <Innomen> its gunna take forever for this mounting madnes to sink in
[05:49] <Pelo> patrickkkkkkkkkk, you'll need to change copy a differnt icon over , in /usr/share/icons
[05:49] <scguy318> Innomen: since I'm no sys admin, there are probably other people and sites who can explain better
[05:49] <Oetmet> "Inode xxxxx as part of the orphaned inode list. FIXED. iNODE xxxx, i_blocks is xxxxxxx should be 0. Fix<y>?"
[05:49] <Oetmet>  any chance that saying 'y' deletes my data permanently?
[05:49] <h1st0> Innomen: there are plenty of alternatives
[05:49] <Pelo> zetheroo, no idea,  sorry , try looking in the forum for ipaq  see what comes up in anything  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:49] <Innomen> any info is helpful
[05:49] <Innomen> i learning
[05:49] <Innomen> this is day 4 for me
[05:50] <h1st0> Innomen: Innomen partimage etc... or you can just use dd
[05:50] <scguy318> Oetmet: probably not
[05:50] <Pelo> Innomen, learn to not use the enter key for punctutaition please
[05:50] <zetheroo> Does anyone have any experience getting a Pocket PC connected with Evolution?
[05:50] <NeoThermic> what is the code name of the latest ubuntu? (excluding 7.10's beta)
[05:50] <trogdor> Innomen: install rutebook and have a read, explains all sorts of super awesome stuff :)
[05:50] <scguy318> !gutsy | NeoThermic
[05:50] <ubotu> NeoThermic: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:50] <h1st0> Innomen: Google and the forums are are good source also
[05:50] <scguy318> NeoThermic: Gutsy is Gutsy
[05:50] <NeoThermic> scguy318: current, not next :P
[05:50] <scguy318> NeoThermic: oh, Feisty
[05:50] <NeoThermic> ah, dapper is thusly old :P
[05:50] <PKdoR> so can any one aid me in istalling the Azureus_3.0.3.0_linux.tar.bz2 file I downloaded?
[05:51] <scguy318> NeoThermic: Gutsy is rapidly approaching current tho :P
[05:51] <demon_spork> wow, it is October 2007 right now
[05:51] <NeoThermic> scguy318: 15 days :)
[05:51] <Innomen> i type quickly and think quickly and a sentence is a complete thought, and sometimes my thoughts are a function of other thoughts, stop hassling me because i type fast
[05:51] <demon_spork> time has really flown by
[05:51] <scguy318> NeoThermic: :D
[05:51] <Pelo> demon_spork,  since yesterday
[05:51] <knopper_> 16 days its released...Woooo!
[05:51] <dbkim> zetheroo, I tried to connect my ppc on ubuntu but failed
[05:51] <Innomen> its not like i'm hitting eneter every other word to stack and get attention, i cant help it so back off
[05:51] <NeoThermic> anyway, damn. I don't appear to have a spare CDR
[05:51] <Dr_willis> knopper_,  they got a long 16 days ahead of them.
[05:51] <Pelo> Innomen, this is a very busy channel  it makes you hard to follow
[05:51] <NeoThermic> so I guess I'll have to make do with dapper :|
[05:51] <knopper_> ya but its gonna be worth it..
[05:51] <Innomen> this place scrolls like a stock ticker during the day anyway, at least you can see what i'm typing
[05:52] <Innomen> this is nothing, come back at 5pm eastern
[05:52] <NeoThermic> ok, screw dapper, it failed to set up X right :)
[05:52] <h1st0> NeoThermic: what type of video card do you have?
[05:52] <Innomen> also i cant touch type, and when i look up i see something i want to respond too, give me a hard limit, how many seconds between enter strokes?
[05:52] <PKdoR> never mind i got to go but I will be back
[05:52] <h1st0> !offtopic > Innomen
[05:52] <NeoThermic> hehe, (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1), (EE) No devices detected
[05:52] <NeoThermic> :)
[05:53] <NeoThermic> it's an Intel GMA, not 1000% sure of which since dapper doesn't like it
[05:53] <h1st0> NeoThermic: hrm.. you could sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org to get it straight
[05:53] <h1st0> NeoThermic: it may be using the rong busid or something.
[05:53] <Innomen> h1st0: lay off, i'm explaining to pelo why he/she should refrain from scolding me for something i cant help, next i'll get scolded for being tall and having a limp (which i am/do)
[05:53] <NeoThermic> h1st0: the busid is correct (I remember that bit while in windows)
[05:54] <benn92647_> it is meeeeeee
[05:54] <h1st0> NeoThermic: hrm... possibly try different drivers.  ex: switching to vesa or installing proper intel drivers.
[05:54] <NeoThermic> h1st0: the problem is that I'm using dapper liveCD. I'll just wait 15 days and buy myself a pack of CDRs and use 7.10 :)
[05:54] <trogdor> benn92647: mario?
[05:54] <knopper_> does anyone know if the new version of GIMP is going to be in gutsy?
[05:54] <usser> it is mario????
[05:55] <NeoThermic> Sorry benn92647_, but your princess is in another castle.
[05:55] <Pelo> knopper_, what ever the latest one is
[05:55] <usr13> knopper_: Yes,
[05:55] <benn92647_> LOL
[05:55] <DoYouKnow> hi
[05:55] <knopper_> awsome, sounds great
[05:55] <benn92647_> K BRB
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> are there any clones of the MacOS processes utility for linux or something similar?
[05:56] <riotkittie> yay. internets.
[05:56] <Innomen> dont private message me without permission
[05:56] <Innomen> thanks
[05:56] <Pelo> knopper_,  gutsy will have the newest prettiest , shiniest everything , ever
[05:56] <h1st0> !attitude > Innomen
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: ps?
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: top?
[05:56] <Innomen> the bot dosent egt to send me pms anymore either
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> no, I mean a GUI tool
[05:56] <DoYouKnow> for gnome or something
[05:56] <Innomen> yay for irc being flexable
[05:56] <usser> DoYouKnow: theres ksysguard in kde
[05:57] <rudelerius> Please help.  I made the mistake of mounting my samba share into my home directory; I changed the mount point to /mnt/share, but the folders from my share still show up in my home folder and I get an error message whenever I login that states that my ~/.dmrc file is being ignored and my home folder must be owned by me, etc.   How do I remove the shared folders from my home directory and get control of my home directory back?  All my little de
[05:57] <punsad> DoYouKnow: I thought gnome had something like a 'task manager'
[05:57] <nickren> is there an easy and safe way to change partitions after install
[05:57] <Innomen> i was sititng here not saying a word, let it go control freaks
[05:57] <Pelo> Innomen, that' wasn'T a pm , it's a notice
[05:57] <trogdor> rudelerius: umount?
[05:57] <nickren> using a gui
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> punsad, System Monitor, I'm looking at it now, but it isn't as good as the MacOS gui
[05:57] <h1st0> rudelerius: just rm -rf the folders
[05:57] <DoYouKnow> for example I can't get information on ttys
[05:57] <Innomen> semantics
[05:57] <h1st0> rudelerius: and you can chown and chgrp yoru /home/username
[05:58] <Innomen> if you dislike me, cease speaking to me, i'm not gunna just be quiet while you berate me, but i can let it drop if you can, whats it gunna be?
[05:58] <rudelerius> trogdor, I'll try that
[05:58] <rudelerius> h2st0 I tried that, but I got an error (I used -R) when it got the shared folders
[05:58] <h1st0> rudelerius: if you've already changed the mount location then you can safely delete the folders in your home
[05:58] <riotkittie> hmm. i wonder if i should try ndiswrapper on that-which-shall-not-be-discussed-here
[05:58] <joules> .. so i am relatively pleased with the latest gutsy release but compiz is a little messed up.. and i really dont know which manager to use anyone has a default that has most of everything
[05:59] <h1st0> rudelerius: sudo rm -rf /home/username/mountpoint
[05:59] <trogdor> riotkittie: tried on what?
[05:59] <h1st0> rudelerius: since they are probably owned by root thats why you got an error
[05:59] <h1st0> !gutsy > joules
[05:59] <rudelerius> h1st0, thanks - I have changed the mount point in /etc/fstab
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, the native drivers work fine for that
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> you just have to tinker with them
[05:59] <Pelo> joules,  you would do better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <trogdor> h1st0: dude.. don't be an ass he just need to umount the network share
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> turn the card on and off, change the access point to something else then back to the correct one
[05:59] <rudelerius> h1st0- deleting the folders in the home folder will not remove them from the share?  I'm scared to do that! :)
[05:59] <h1st0> trogdor: no he doesn't if you read
[05:59] <DoYouKnow> eventually dhclient will work
[06:00] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: i'm not a native-driver-tinkerer-with-them-er ... and i'd have no clue where to start :P
[06:00] <h1st0> rudelerius: not if its mounted somewhere else if you check the folders contain nothing
[06:00] <trogdor> h1st0: oh is it a separate user he has the share thing on?
[06:00] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I'll check; I believe they did the last time I looked though
[06:00] <h1st0> trogdor: no he's using fstab to mount a samba share to his users home so root owns the mountpoint
[06:00] <malv1> i use kde and my gtk fonts look ugly and not properly anti-aliased
[06:00] <Tensoma-Halo3> can someone help with GRUB error 17?
[06:00] <h1st0> rudelerius: if they contain files then it isn't getting mounted to the other folder
[06:00] <malv1> is there a fix?
[06:00] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, just type "ifconfig <your_interface> off", "ifconfig <your_interface> on"
[06:01] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: when did it start happening?
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> then "iwconfig essid dfkjdkdjfkjdf"
[06:01] <nickren> how do i resize partitions
[06:01] <trogdor> h1st0: isn't that kinda bad to have root running network daemons?...
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> "iwconfig essid <your_ssid>
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> "
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> oh whoops
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> insert your interface name before essid
[06:01] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I believe I can access the shared folders from either mount point
[06:01] <h1st0> trogdor: its just the way he set up fstab
[06:01] <DoYouKnow> do this under sudo bash
[06:01] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: after installing Vista and rpairing GRUB
[06:02] <Tensoma-Halo3> and I uninstalled VIsta, but it stil don't work :(
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: well ls /home/rudelerius/mountpoint  and see if there are any files in there.
[06:02] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: oh no, it's not that. i can connect and everything, and its just smashing, save for the fact that my connection dies and i have to reboot to bring it back up
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: or you can just type in mount in terminal to see your current mounts.
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, sometimes broadcom gets set in the wrong mode
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> so you have to tinker with the settings
[06:02] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me install flash on ubuntu?
[06:02] <rudelerius> h1st0 - there are
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> to get it reset
[06:02] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: I dont have a bcom :P
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: the folder in yoru home directory is just a place holder for the mount it shouldn't contain any data once the mount has been removed
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> oh, it's not a broadcom?
[06:02] <h1st0> rudelerius: then the mount isn't right
[06:02] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: XP can read the partion
[06:02] <DoYouKnow> I thought we were talking about the broadcom
[06:02] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: have you ever been able to boot ubuntu?
[06:02] <riotkittie> nope. i have an ralink.
[06:03] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I haven't umount'ed yet
[06:03] <Pelo> later folks
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes
[06:03] <h1st0> rudelerius: well once you unmount it and change the mount point those folders will be blank then you can safely delete them.
[06:03] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: So this just started all of the sudden?
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> yes
[06:03] <Tensoma-Halo3> sinceinstaling Vista on a 25GB partion
[06:04] <jpastore> I'm trying to run azureus and it's complaining about not having swt-gtk-3346 I can't figure out which package I need to install to satisfy this
[06:04] <DoYouKnow> riotkittie, well, I have a broadcom so I had to keep messing with different things. initially I think I had to reload the module a few times to get it working but now just tinkering with the commands iwconfig and ifconfig seem to do it
[06:04] <mindrape> !flash | alcaponage
[06:04] <ubotu> alcaponage: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:04] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: ahh vista may have borked the mbr
[06:04] <h1st0> !grub Tensoma-Halo3
[06:04] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I repaier it
[06:04] <mindrape> bork bork bork
[06:04] <frostburn> jpastore, i recommend installing the sun jre, and getting azureus from sourceforge
[06:04] <h1st0> !grub > Tensoma-Halo3
[06:04] <riotkittie> DoYouKnow: I dont have such luck :P
[06:05] <Tensoma-Halo3> I have repaired it
[06:05] <MasterShrek> jpastore, i recommend a different client :)
[06:05] <jpastore> MasterShrek, what client do you recommend?
[06:05] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: GRUB is fine, I get error 17. it has nothing to to with a bad GRUB
[06:05] <h1st0> !worksforme > w4ett
[06:05] <MasterShrek> jpastore, ktorrent
[06:06] <jpastore> hmm...let me give it a shot
[06:06] <joshuajoshua> my itunes.db became corrupted. The files are on there, but don't show up in amarok/rhythm box or on my ipod screen. Is there anyway to rewrite the database in ubuntu?
[06:06] <mindrape> joshuajoshua - ask in #gtkpod
[06:06] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: actually it does
[06:06] <kitche> joshuajoshua: not really and if it'sa  new gen ipod there is no way until programs get up to date on the new hash feature
[06:06] <nocta> is the ubuntu lamp server fairly easy to put a gui on? i know i'm defeating the whole point by putting a gui on
[06:06] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I repaired it, a few times
[06:07] <mindrape> nocta - you want a gui to start and stop mysql/apache?
[06:07] <Tensoma-Halo3> tried to boot, shut down, botted again
[06:07] <lerio> guys how can i install genius color vivid 3xe in my feisty where can i find the firmware
[06:07] <kitche> nocta: sudo apt-get install {k|u|x}buntu-desktop :)
[06:07] <nickren> how do i resize a partition
[06:07] <joshuajoshua> kitche, 5th gen. It just became corrupted. I've used it with linux since dapper, and this is the first time i've had this problem.
[06:07] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: Are you able to boot any of the OS's ont he grub menu or does it come up before the menu?
[06:07] <mindrape> nickren - fdisk.. its destructive though.
[06:07] <MasterShrek> nocta, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <nocta> mindrape, i am coming from a 2k server to a ubuntu lamp server
[06:07] <h1st0> nickren: What type of partition?
[06:07] <MasterShrek> nocta, thats for gnome, use kubuntu for kde or xubuntu for xfce
[06:07] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I'm on XP THROUGH GRUB
[06:07] <usr13> nickren: Use qparted or gparted
[06:08] <nocta> i just need a small gui something that won't use too much processing power but still be usable/bareable
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: So when do you get the error?
[06:08] <mindrape> nocta - well... sudo apt-get install php mysql apache will get you a LAMP environment... you can then use whatever editor you want and save your files in /var/www/html/
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: its probably just an issue with a pointer can you pastebin your menu.1st
[06:08] <Tensoma-Halo3> when I try to boot Linux
[06:08] <usr13> nickren: But be careful, you might loose data.
[06:08] <nickren> well i wanting to resize the partition on so i can do have both xp and ubuntu running
[06:08] <MasterShrek> nocta, i suggest fluxbox
[06:08] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: and the output of fdisk -l
[06:08] <nocta> MasterShrek, why for?
[06:08] <h1st0> nickren: Are you trying to resize an xp partition?
[06:09] <nickren> no ext3
[06:09] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: and just HOW am Igonna get tht when I an't get into Linux?
[06:09] <nickren> well basically ubuntu
[06:09] <h1st0> nickren: ah well use gparted then.
[06:09] <ccxxpro> anyone can help me to install the pci wireless card
[06:09] <usr13> nickren: You'll have to put XP on first half.
[06:09] <MasterShrek> for a gui environment, i run it on my server, it runs awesome, can run all gnome and kde apps, but its very basic so it doesnt take much power to run
[06:09] <scguy318> Tensoma-Halo3: the Terminal
[06:09] <scguy318> !pastebin | Tensoma-Halo3
[06:09] <ubotu> Tensoma-Halo3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:09] <h1st0> nickren: I recomend booting to the live cd unmounting the drive and resizing it.  There is also a gparted live cd availible for just this purpose
[06:09] <usr13> ccxxpro: Sure, what's your problem?
[06:09] <Tensoma-Halo3> scguy318: I cannot boot Ubuntu
[06:09] <nocta> MasterShrek, okies
[06:09] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well then how did you try to repair grub?
[06:10] <scguy318> Tensoma-Halo3: in that case, have you tried the Super GRUB CD?
[06:10] <rudelerius> Anyone have any suggestions of what to do if umount reports that it seems //ubuntu/share is mounted multiple times?  Should I use the -f switch to force it to unmount both instances then let fstab remount in the correct mount point?
[06:10] <jpastore> MasterShrek, that seems to be getting a lot further along than I did with azureus, any reason why the download would have stalled?
[06:10] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: super GRUB disc
[06:10] <niru> Hi
[06:10] <nocta> am i right with assuming i can use bauhamut with ubuntu?
[06:10] <ccxxpro> i use D-Link PCI DWL-G520 version C2
[06:10] <nickren> wow thanks, can i do this without disturbing the ubuntu i running right now and then install xp
[06:10] <mindrape> hi niru
[06:10] <MasterShrek> jpastore, just normal torrent behavior i guess
[06:10] <niru> I have got a sony PCG-4LBP laptop of 11.1'' and 1366x768 resolution
[06:10] <niru> it does not work with projector
[06:10] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well boot to a linux live cd or install ext3 filesystem support in xp and get the /boot/grub/menu.1st file
[06:10] <niru> what could be the reason
[06:10] <MasterShrek> 1366x768?!
[06:10] <ccxxpro> i have just plug it in and there is no signal
[06:10] <Tensoma-Halo3> scguy318 [21:10:06]  Tensoma-Halo3 : h1st0: super GRUB disc
[06:11] <mindrape> !projector
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about projector - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ccxxpro> I use the Network Manager
[06:11] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: I can do that, sec
[06:11] <niru> MasterShrek, yes
[06:11] <niru> mindrape, ?
[06:11] <rudelerius> h1st0 - Have any suggestions of what to do if umount reports that it seems //ubuntu/share is mounted multiple times?  Should I use the -f switch to force it to unmount both instances then let fstab remount in the correct mount point?
[06:11] <ccxxpro> the wireless card can recognise the network but there is no signal
[06:11] <jpastore> MasterShrek, alright thanks I'll try other more popular torrents to see if it works...do I need to enable ports on the firewall by chance?
[06:11] <scguy318> rudelerius: sudo umount
[06:11] <MasterShrek> jpastore, i dont think so
[06:11] <scguy318> rudelerius: do that twice, then remount once
[06:11] <h1st0> rudelerius: umount each of them.
[06:11] <julz> hi, anyone who can help get a usb pci card running? its supported but ubuntu won't recognise it...
[06:12] <scguy318> rudelerius: only root can more than once
[06:12] <h1st0> rudelerius: then if you fixed your fstab you can just sudo mount -a  to remount everything
[06:12] <usr13> ccxxpro: If it "recognizes" the network, then there must be a signal.
[06:12] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: ok, open
[06:12] <rudelerius> scguy318 - with no options?  I did umount both of them individually, and it gave me the error twice
[06:12] <niru> any body
[06:12] <h1st0> ccxxpro: is it a broadcom card?
[06:12] <niru> can help me?
[06:12] <indraveni> hi all
[06:12] <h1st0> ccxxpro: lspci | grep Ethernet
[06:13] <ccxxpro> nope . it's ralink
[06:13] <rudelerius> scguy318 - fstab is correct; only problem is unmounting the duplicates that are currently mounted.
[06:13] <h1st0> !ask > niru
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: sudo umount ...
[06:13] <usr13> ccxxpro;   is it acquiring essid?
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: thats it :)
[06:13] <scguy318> rudelerius: you would just do it twice
[06:13] <valon> Alright, I have a question about amarok and mp3's, where or what is the file I need to add other music file support to amarok?
[06:13] <h1st0> niru: have you tried searching the forums.  Sry didn't see your question above.
[06:13] <h1st0> niru: I would search ubuntuforums.org for you laptop model see if anyone has had your problem.
[06:13] <ccxxpro> my wireless network is WEP
[06:13] <MasterShrek> ccxxpro, what kind of card is it?
[06:13] <h1st0> ccxxpro: What type of network card do you have?
[06:14] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: now what?
[06:14] <niru> h1st0, tahnk you
[06:14] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: i'd go to http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.net [i think it's .net, but i may be off]  and at the very least, download RutilT.  you will need to sudo apt-get install build-essential to compile it
[06:14] <h1st0> !paste | Tensoma-Halo3
[06:14] <ubotu> Tensoma-Halo3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <trogdor> ccxxpro: I just use 64 bit wep and some authentication stuff
[06:14] <usr13> ccxxpro: Then you will first have to code in the wep key into the client device.
[06:14] <julz> hi, can someone help with a pci card please?
[06:14] <usr13> ccxxpro: 64 or 128bit?
[06:14] <ccxxpro> 64 bit
[06:14] <riotkittie> ralink chipsets and network manager in feisty, at least, don't seem to get along.
[06:14] <h1st0> julz: see if its showing up in dmesg or lspci
[06:14] <cafuego> They're both trivially easy to crack, much of a muchness.
[06:15] <rudelerius> scguy318 - are you saying to just use the umount command without specifying which file system to use, etc? Or are you suggesting that I ummount each mount point individually, because I did do that and I just got the message that it appears the share is mounted twice- each time I ran the command for each mount point...???
[06:15] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39424/
[06:15] <nocta> why is it that when i use the ubuntu live cd
[06:15] <nocta> it won't let me see my 40 gig drive
[06:15] <nocta> it says i don't have access to it
[06:15] <h1st0> rudelerius: umount /path/to/device ex: umount /dev/hda1
[06:15] <rudelerius> scguy318 - am I being dense?? :)
[06:15] <ccxxpro> Do i need to install the driver for the wireless card ?
[06:15] <nocta> also it won't mount it when i want to start ubuntu from the live cd
[06:15] <riotkittie> nocta: is it an NTFS drive?
[06:15] <scguy318> rudelerius: just umount the mount points that are mounted twice :)
[06:15] <nocta> yes
[06:15] <scguy318> rudelerius: the share that is mentioned in the error I guess
[06:15] <usr13> ccxxpro: iwconfig eth0 key ##########
[06:16] <Tensoma-Halo3> nocta: you could use ntfs-3g to read/write to it
[06:16] <usr13> ccxxpro: or  iwconfig eth1 key ##########
[06:16] <julz> h1st0: it doesnt come up, at least not that i can see...
[06:16] <usr13> as the case may be
[06:16] <nocta> so i'd have to change the file system?
[06:16] <nocta> wouldn't that lose dt
[06:16] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: so ubuntu is on second partition of primary master?
[06:16] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I have tried, but it appears to fail- stating that the share appears to be mounted more than once
[06:16] <nocta> data*
[06:16] <riotkittie> in that case sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/[partition here]  /path/to/mountpoint
[06:16] <h1st0> rudelerius: hrm... well try the -f I guess
[06:16] <Tensoma-Halo3> nocta: no
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes, I elieve so
[06:17] <ccxxpro> lo        no wireless extensions.
[06:17] <ccxxpro> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[06:17] <ccxxpro> ra0       RT61 Wireless  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Link Quality=63/100  Signal level:-68 dBm  Noise level:-79 dBm
[06:17] <rudelerius> scguy318 - I have tried umounting both mount points; nothing happens but the message that there are dups
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:17] <ccxxpro>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: can you open fdisk and make sure?
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: might be the 3rd
[06:17] <riotkittie> nocta: no. ntfs-3g's no longer beta, so you should be good.
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: well if / is the third thats the problem
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: how am I suposed to open Fdisc?
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: are you in windows?
[06:17] <usr13> ccxxpro: Dont flood:  iwconfig  <will tell you the name>
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> h1st0: yes
[06:17] <h1st0> Tensoma-Halo3: opena  command prompt and type in fdisk
[06:17] <Tensoma-Halo3> I'm on that 0,0 partion atm
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> lol
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> k
[06:18] <ccxxpro> that's the iwconfig command show
[06:18] <h1st0> !paste | ccxxpro
[06:18] <ubotu> ccxxpro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:18] <usr13> ccxxpro: If it's not a fully supported card, you will have to load drivers first.
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> C:\Documents and Settings\DSMaster>fdisk
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> 'fdisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[06:18] <Tensoma-Halo3> operable program or batch file.
[06:19] <usr13> ccxxpro: Using encription on a card that's not fully supported may be a chore.
[06:19] <riotkittie> NetworkManager and ralink chipsets do not play nice together, in feisty, at least.
[06:19] <MoNsTeR> Tensoma-Halo3, you have xbox live?
[06:19] <ccxxpro> so , what should i do now ?
[06:19] <usr13> ccxxpro: You should acquire fully supported wifi device if you want to use encryption.
[06:19] <Tensoma-Halo3> MoNsTeR: is that relavent somehow?
[06:19] <MoNsTeR> Tensoma-Halo3, halo 3 duh
[06:20] <Tensoma-Halo3> well, not really
[06:20] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: or you could use wpa_supplicant. but again, rt2x00.serialmonkey.net  ... give that a look
[06:20] <Tensoma-Halo3> I have an acct on my brother's 360
[06:20] <ccxxpro> so i need to use the wpa_supplicant
[06:20] <riotkittie> ccxxpro: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com , rather
[06:20] <h1st0> !wpa > ccxxpro
[06:20] <usr13> ccxxpro: and switch from wep to wpa (on your router)
[06:21] <usr13> ccxxpro: and the rest of your network.
[06:21] <riotkittie> ralink's are fully supported. the drivers have been GPL'ed, yadda yadda yadda
[06:21] <Kousotu> h1st0: ideas?
[06:21] <h1st0> Kousotu: ?
[06:21] <usr13> riotkittie: Oh, good.  Thanks for the inof.
[06:21] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me install flash in ubuntu feisty?
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : C:\Documents and Settings\DSMaster>fdisk
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : 'fdisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[06:21] <Kousotu> [21:18:55]  Tensoma-Halo3 : operable program or batch file.
[06:22] <Kousotu> h1st0: that ^
[06:22] <usr13> Kousotu: sudo
[06:22] <riotkittie> Network Manager and ralink chipsets, on the other hand, do not seem to play nicely in Feisty. I can't comment on previous versions, as I've only used my ralink on gutsy and feisty
[06:22] <h1st0> Kousotu: he doesn't have fdisk installed its on the windows xp cd though.  I would just boot to the ubuntu live cd and use fdisk there and make sure his parts are in the right place.
[06:22] <h1st0> Kousotu: find otu where / is and chnage menu.1st accordingly
[06:22] <Kousotu> usr13: sudo in WINDOWS?
[06:22] <riotkittie> alcaponage: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:23] <Kousotu> h1st0: it's open
[06:23] <Kousotu> h1st0: change what?
[06:23] <h1st0> Kousotu: where is the / partition?
[06:23] <mactimes> Hello.  I was wondering if someone could help me with a NVidia restricted driver + GDM problem.
[06:23] <usr13> Kousotu: Oh, you are using windows?  Sorry.  What was your question / problem?
[06:23] <h1st0> usr13: thats all he can boot right now.
[06:23] <B00daW> Yeah, I'm an idiot and can't seem to get the userlist to display on a fresh Ubuntu install.  hlep hlep!1
[06:23] <z> is there some kind of gnome program equivalent to the stickynotes program in windows... so that I can leave myself very visible reminders on the desktop
[06:24] <Kousotu> I'm Trying NOT TO HAVE TO reinstall Ubuntu as well..
[06:24] <B00daW> xubuntu 'feisty fucker'
[06:24] <ccxxpro> using the wpa is the only way in my case
[06:24] <h1st0> Kousotu: You shoulnd't have to
[06:24] <rudelerius> h1st0 and scguy318 - I've tried umount again and I get this message now: "umount: /mnt/share: device is busy; umount: /home/jon: device is busy; Cannot create link /etc/mtab~; Perhaps there is a stale lock file?" I am at a complete loss of where to go with this information...
[06:24] <h1st0> !ohmy | B00daW
[06:24] <ubotu> B00daW: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:24] <D4N`> hello
[06:24] <B00daW> ah, sorry.
[06:24] <mikeo1> is there a way to jail everything (apache, bind, mysql) on a server so if one thing goes down the others will stay up, and nothing will bring down the system
[06:24] <h1st0> rudelerius: use sudo
[06:24] <Mriluvterri> um did it work
[06:24] <usr13> Tell Kousotu to boot a kernel from a CD or floppy and chroot to Linux's root partition
[06:24] <Kousotu> h1st0: exatly..
[06:25] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I definitely used sudo
[06:25] <Kousotu> usr13: and how am I to do that?
[06:25] <h1st0> Kousotu: exactly what?  You need to find out what partition your /root is on?  You said it may be the third well that would be hd0,2 instead of hd0,1
[06:25] <B00daW> userlist isn't under view...
[06:25] <h1st0> rudelerius: hrm...
[06:25] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I agree
[06:26] <Kousotu> h1st0: I have 2 partions, and a deleted partion that WAS vista
[06:26] <h1st0> rudelerius: Have you been changing any of the files?  If not Try just rebooting.
[06:26] <niru> h1st0, any idea
[06:26] <h1st0> Kousotu: what order did you install things?
[06:26] <Kousotu> it might still have 0,2 attached to it
[06:26] <h1st0> Kousotu: ex: Xp, then ubuntu , then vista?
[06:26] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me w/ installing flash?
[06:26] <Kousotu> XP, ubuntu, vista
[06:26] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device
[06:26] <B00daW> hlep hlep, plz kind pepples
[06:26] <Kousotu> deleted vista, etc
[06:27] <B00daW> ubuntu isn't as good as slack on this 200mhz. :(
[06:27] <Kousotu> I am going to be uninstalling XP to reinstall it due ot issues as well
[06:27] <rudelerius> h1st0: I did change the /etc/mtab file.  I copied a backup, then replaced the file I changed with the original...I did it before I realized it was a dumb thing to do without knowing anything about its purpose... :(
[06:27] <alcaponage> "Unpackage the file. A directory called installflashplayerlinux will be created." "In terminal, navigate to this directory..."
[06:27] <alcaponage> How do i navigate to that directory?
[06:27] <frijolie> does anyone know how to fix a taskbar that autohides when "autohide" has been unchecked?
[06:27] <h1st0> Kousotu: well it should be on hd0,1 then unless you have multiple drives then who knows.  Why can't you just boot the ubuntu install cd?
[06:28] <riotkittie> lol. ubuntu on a 200mhz. <shakes head> that's gotta hurt.
[06:28] <Kousotu> h1st0: I can, but that does nothing
[06:28] <h1st0> rudelerius: yeah you shoulnd't have to mess with mtab just fstab
[06:28] <B00daW> pimentinha: faca o favor me ajuda pq naum posso de ver meu userlist em xchat!
[06:28] <mactimes> I used to run Ubuntu 7.04 with NVidia restricted driver very well, but since I reinstalled the system (still running Ubuntu 7.04) and enabled NVidia restricted driver again, GDM won't show up.  By checking the keyboard response time, I can see that the system gets slow.  The only thing I changed was the monitor (was a SyncMaster 3Ne, now it is a SuncMaster 794v) and current resolution (previously 1024x768, now 1280x1024).  Could someone, please
[06:28] <mactimes> , help?
[06:28] <B00daW> and people are ignoring me. :(
[06:28] <riotkittie> B00daW: user list in xchat?? is that what youre looking for?
[06:28] <usr13> Kousotu: http://www.toms.net/rb/  or  just boot a kernel on a live cd or install CD and use the chroot command and then you can install grub to MBR
[06:28] <h1st0> Kousotu: it will atleast give you access to linux so you can use fdisk and see the partitions
[06:28] <h1st0> Kousotu: then you can also repair grub
[06:28] <rudelerius> h1st0 - I'm very dumb. I know.  Any suggestions?
[06:29] <cafuego> B00daW: Don't run Gnome on a 200MHz box.
[06:29] <B00daW> yes, riotkittie... :(
[06:29] <h1st0> rudelerius: reboot
[06:29] <B00daW> cafuego:  xubuntu, sir.
[06:29] <B00daW> i only run xfce.
[06:29] <B00daW> gnome is poopoo.
[06:29] <riotkittie> B00daW: open a term and sudo apt-get install xchat << what you are using now is xchat-gnome
[06:29] <B00daW> xchat-common
[06:29] <B00daW> I did sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:29] <dbkim> hi all,
[06:29] <rudelerius> h1st0: I'll do it and see what happens.  Thanks.  In fact, I'm going to call it a night; work and school tomorrow.  Will play more after all that fun stuff is over.  Thanks again.
[06:30] <dbkim> does anyone know how the resolution of login screen can be changed?
[06:30] <riotkittie> B00daW: if its actually xchat, the user list should be there <shrug>
[06:30] <h1st0> rudelerius: after reboot if you've got fstab right it should mount properly then the folders in yoru home should be blank and you can delete them.
[06:30] <B00daW> it's not, riotkiddie...  and i've used xchat before....
[06:30] <h1st0> dbkim: it should be the same res as your session
[06:31] <Kousotu> h1st0: but isn't it gonna just break again after I reinstall XP?
[06:31] <B00daW> if i can't find the userlist here, could you help me locate the .bitchxrc file for bitchx?
[06:31] <h1st0> Kousotu: yes
[06:31] <riotkittie> perhaps its in ~ somewhere?  ~/.bitchx
[06:31] <B00daW> /etc/bitchx ?
[06:31] <dbkim> h1st0 somehow they have different resolution
[06:31] <rudelerius> h1st0: should is such a loaded word!  :)  I've already tried relogging several times, but not reboot.  I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope it works as planned.  Have a good night.
[06:31] <h1st0> Kousotu: I though you had xp installed
[06:31] <Kousotu> h1st0: I do, but I am having problems with it as well...
[06:31] <dbkim> h1st0, I think I made a mistake when I make a resolution during installation
[06:32] <B00daW> i did a locate, but does locate find hidden files too?
[06:32] <h1st0> Kousotu: Well you need to install xp then follow the message from ubotu for repairing grub
[06:32] <h1st0> !grub > Kousotu
[06:32] <Kousotu> quit sending that..
[06:32] <h1st0> Kousotu: the lost grub after installing windows part.
[06:32] <riotkittie> B00daW: yes
[06:32] <niru> h1st0, r u there
[06:32] <Kousotu> I HAVE the SGcd
[06:32] <dbkim> h1st0, therefore, login screen has extremely high resolution that exceeds my LCD whereas the session window has exact resolution for the displayer
[06:32] <h1st0> niru: yes
[06:32] <romek> http://www.adbux-cash.tk
[06:33] <h1st0> dbkim: thats wierd did you change the login screen?
[06:33] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device, but the input does work well!
[06:33] <niru> h1st0, did you get any solution
[06:33] <B00daW> this recent version of xubuntu has a lot of broken things for old laptops. :(
[06:33] <h1st0> niru: for?
[06:33] <dbkim> h1st0, you mean theme of the login screen?
[06:33] <B00daW> ndiswrapper is broken, alsa is broken, xchat is broken. :(
[06:33] <Davy_Jones> are there ftp servers i can download ubuntu from?
[06:33] <h1st0> dbkim: yes
[06:33] <B00daW> that's really sad.
[06:33] <z> in response to my own question: gnome has programs but they aren't exactly the same
[06:33] <niru> h1st0, laptop and projector
[06:33] <dbkim> h1st0, I tried all the themes but resolution is fixed
[06:33] <B00daW> i'm disappointed in ubuntu.
[06:34] <Innomen> riotkittie: guess what, error loading operating system, supergrub cannot make ubuntu boot under any of the options in boot, or gnu linux lol, not asking for help just shareing
[06:34] <dbkim> I'm excited by ubuntu =)
[06:34] <Innomen> windows boots fine, when tricked
[06:34] <usr13> B00daW: You are dissappointed in xbuntu - you mean?
[06:34] <B00daW> k...  i have another question.
[06:34] <h1st0> niru: did you try searching the forums foryour laptop model?  Also you may have to hit fn and a key to enable the external display on your laptop
[06:34] <B00daW> i can't run kde or gnome on 200mhz. :(
[06:34] <Kousotu> h1st0: wel, I'l ruturn after I reinstall XP, and HOPE for the best lol
[06:34] <riotkittie> Innomen: ugh, that sucks
[06:34] <niru> h1st0, I tried all but in vain
[06:34] <B00daW> k... this is a complicated question.
[06:34] <h1st0> B00daW: You shoulnd't run either on 200mhz system
[06:34] <Innomen> ubuntu conceptually is wonderful, its just young, in time it will be great
[06:35] <B00daW> i know.
[06:35] <clusty> how can i get acrobat reader as a package under feisty?
[06:35] <usr13> B00daW: 200mhz porcessor?  Yes, that is a bit underpowered.  Not for GUI.
[06:35] <mikeo1> run blackbox
[06:35] <mikeo1> or xfce
[06:35] <B00daW> that's why i'm using xubuntu.
[06:35] <dbkim> h1st0, seems you are too busy for answering all the questions ;)
[06:35] <alcaponage> Can anyone show me how to put customize images on top and the bottom of my cube?
[06:35] <frostburn> or fluxbox
[06:35] <alcaponage> My pictures aren't showing up
[06:35] <alcaponage> Just white
[06:35] <h1st0> Kousotu: just make sure it doesn't delete your ubuntu parittion
[06:35] <B00daW> usr13:  this same laptop worked fine on an old version of zenwalk with a custom compiled kernel.
[06:35] <Innomen> but for now i uninstall :/ thank you for your help riotkittie, i'll be back as soon as i can afford ot get drive enclosuers
[06:35] <h1st0> alcaponage: the option is skycaps and ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:35] <B00daW> next question:  how do i make a deb of a kernel?
[06:36] <B00daW> i need to recompile this kernel.
[06:36] <Neitsabes> Hi
[06:36] <B00daW> that's the only way i'll get speed.
[06:36] <h1st0> B00daW: follow the master kernel thread in the forums
[06:36] <usr13>  B00daW:  you will need a very lean kernel and a light weight window manager.
[06:36] <B00daW> i've done it many times.
[06:36] <B00daW> i'm going to use xfce or fluxbox.
[06:36] <Neitsabes> I'm trying to find how does can change the default automount location (/media) to something else?
[06:37] <B00daW> or icewm
[06:37] <usr13> B00daW: These fat kernels most of us are running on these highpowered machines are not for a 200mhz processor
[06:37] <h1st0> B00daW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[06:37] <h1st0> Neitsabes: edit /etc/fstab
[06:37] <B00daW> usr13:  i'm fully aware, monsignor
[06:37] <clusty> any1 know how to get acrobat reader as a ubuntu package?
[06:37] <B00daW> i need a firefox alternative too...
[06:37] <B00daW> does anybody know if there will be camino ports for windows and linux?
[06:38] <B00daW> camino is way better than firefox.
[06:38] <usr13> B00daW: lynx :)
[06:38] <h1st0> clusty: you should be able to read pdf's by default
[06:38] <Davy_Jones> !download
[06:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:38] <Ahadiel> B00daW, Epiphany D:
[06:38] <usr13> Fastes browser around.
[06:38] <h1st0> B00daW: dillo
[06:38] <B00daW> hrm...
[06:38] <B00daW> i'll keep those in mind.
[06:38] <B00daW> i've used epiphany before...
[06:38] <B00daW> on slack.
[06:38] <B00daW> i miss slack...
[06:39] <B00daW> i had everything on here on zenwalk...
[06:39] <h1st0> B00daW: you really should just use the server install cd and install a command line system.  I believe the alternate iso also has this option.
[06:39] <B00daW> but they deprecated ALL hardware for this laptop on the new version.
[06:39] <lucifer> omg
[06:39] <usr13> B00daW: I don't,  (I have one in the other room) (nice system)
[06:39] <B00daW> used the alt cd.
[06:39] <clusty> h1st0, with evince or some other crap
[06:39] <lucifer> im using irssi because i uninstalled gdm
[06:39] <lucifer> now x wont start
[06:39] <clusty> h1st0, was asking about adobe stuff
[06:39] <lucifer> because the script is stuck at gdm
[06:39] <MasterShrek> B00daW, tried slack 12.0?
[06:39] <h1st0> lucifer: sudo apt-get install gdm
[06:40] <B00daW> hlst0:  it's a laptop.  i want it for web-browsing, wardriving, and mp3 listening.
[06:40] <lucifer> i did
[06:40] <B00daW> i had it working great on zenwalk 2 years ago.
[06:40] <h1st0> B00daW: yeap then I would just use command line
[06:40] <lucifer> how do i stop the hung gui startup?
[06:40] <usr13> lucifer: did you install ubuntu or kbuntu or?
[06:40] <B00daW> i could even load gimp in 5 seconds.
[06:40] <lucifer> ubuntu, but using kde
[06:40] <h1st0> B00daW: or install xfce4 package and keep things minimal.  You can use links2 for graphical browsing kismet for war drivign and there are plenty of command line mp3 players.
[06:41] <usr13> lucifer: kdm is probably starting before gdm
[06:41] <lucifer> tried to go kde after not liking gnome
[06:41] <Kousotu> h1st0: let's asume it's corect, but it still won't bot, what should I do then?
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: Well its obviously not correct if it won't boot.
[06:41] <lucifer> ill try installing kdm
[06:41] <B00daW> i wanna stick to xfce prolly.
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: worst case you can boot to the linux cd and try to fsck the drive make sure it has no errors
[06:41] <MasterShrek> lucifer check the permissions of /etc/init.d/kdm and make sure its executable
[06:41] <h1st0> Kousotu: fsck -y /dev/hda
[06:42] <usr13> lucifer: chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[06:42] <usr13> lucifer: chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm   correction
[06:42] <Kousotu> ok, I'll check hat after I fix my XP issues..
[06:43] <lucifer> im in a shell
[06:43] <lucifer> and a noob
[06:43] <h1st0> lucifer: anything in gui can be done in shell so don't worry.
[06:43] <vulcanius> we all started there
[06:43] <lucifer> i know that
[06:43] <lucifer> id rather be able to use shell all the time
[06:43] <usr13> lucifer: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/kdm
[06:43] <vulcanius> except me, because i'm like a god
[06:43] <lucifer> but i dont know my way around in the dark yet
[06:43] <nocta> ;o
[06:44] <Kousotu> h1st0: well, almost anything lol
[06:44] <nocta> if you put a gui on
[06:44] <nocta> can't you take it off?
[06:44] <nocta> i mean it just seems logical that you could
[06:45] <Neitsabes> h1st0, I can indeed modify the mounting point in /etc/fstab for say the cdrom, how about USB devices, there is no fstab entry for these after a fresh installation, yet they get mounted in /media automatically, how can I change that default location to something different?
[06:45] <lucifer> got it going, thanks for the moral support
[06:45] <MaxHR> Hello, is there any decent speech to text programs for linux?  (for dictation to do word processing)
[06:45] <lucifer> haha!
[06:45] <lucifer> stuck at loading the desktop!
[06:45] <Kousotu> ctrl + alt + ackspace
[06:46] <Kousotu> backspace*
[06:46] <h1st0> Neitsabes: hold up I think its in gconf let me double check
[06:46] <puma> anybody helps?
[06:46] <Neitsabes> ok, thanks :)
[06:46] <puma> SCIM disappeared.
[06:46] <CommonClone> anyone have any idea why my network will not work after I installed firestarter...and why after I rebooted the system hangs at the configuring network phase?
[06:46] <Kousotu> !ask | puma
[06:46] <ubotu> puma: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:46] <usr13> lucifer:  sudo chmod -x /etc/rc1.d/K01kdm
[06:47] <puma> hi, SCIM disappeared on topbar.
[06:47] <borovy3488> OK, my computer will not let me download torrents anymore. at all. can anyone help?
[06:48] <Mark7> Can anyone help me?
[06:48] <puma> but if I typed in terminal"SCIM", it appears again.
[06:48] <lucifer> usr13: thanks, that did it
[06:48] <CommonClone> anyone have any idea why my network will not work after I installed firestarter...and why after I rebooted the system hangs at the configuring network phase?
[06:48] <usr13> lucifer: Ok, let me know if it works.
[06:50] <CommonClone> I can only boot into recovery mode...please help
[06:50] <MasterShrek> CommonClone, is firestarter being run every time? change the permissions of /etc/init.d/firestarter and make it not bootable and see if that fixes teh problem
[06:50] <hunteke> hey, anyone know much about the sound system in the upcoming Heron?
[06:50] <usr13> CommonClone: Sure, what can we do for you?
[06:50] <borovy3488> OK, i think I might be switching back to windows soon because of all the damn problems I'm having. once again, something just stopped working. i cant download torrents at all i get an error that says urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')
[06:50] <borovy3488> any ideas
[06:51] <hunteke> borovy3488: sounds network related
[06:51] <CommonClone> MasterShrek, I uninstalled firestarter after I noticed it shut my network down...now when I tried to reboot by computer's a brick...I can only boot into recovery
[06:51] <drew_> try a different torrent client? which one are you usinh
[06:51] <usr13> sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/firestarter
[06:51] <CommonClone> ^my
[06:51] <hunteke> borovy3488: are you at all command line savvy?
[06:51] <borovy3488> hunteke: how could it be though? my internet is working and so is everything else.
[06:52] <hunteke> borovy3488: sorry, I'm just joined
[06:52] <usr13> CommonClone: If you think firestarter is your problem, you can dissable it
[06:52] <usr13> CommonClone: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/firestarter
[06:52] <hunteke> borovy3488: what details have you said that I missed?
[06:52] <CommonClone> usr13, I uninstalled it
[06:52] <borovy3488> hunteke: I can do normal things with it, like navigate, change file names, etc.
[06:53] <borovy3488> hunteke: not too much i think that was the only things, it basically just stopped working after i messed around with port forwarding.
[06:53] <gunspoja> coi ro do
[06:53] <gunspoja> gday everyone
[06:53] <gunspoja> how is #ubuntu today?
[06:53] <borovy3488> now, after resetting all of those settings, it doesnt work at all.
[06:53] <hunteke> borovy3488: OK. bear with me, I'm not the most GUI oriented of people, can you open a terminal or command line?
[06:53] <usr13>  CommonClone have you deleted or uninstalled a kernel you were booting to?
[06:53] <borovy3488> hunteke: yes, sir.
[06:54] <h1st0> Neitsabes: I think its handled by hotplug but not sure how to change it.
[06:54] <borovy3488> hunteke: ubuntu has made me somewhat command line friendly just so you know
[06:54] <hunteke> borovy3488: you'd best back off with the sirs.  I'm but 23 and have no desire to be called sir until I'm at least a father. :-P  ...
[06:54] <borovy3488> hunteke: sorry, military here
[06:54] <Neitsabes> alright, thanks I'll try to digg a little more, having stuff automounted in /media conflicts with some mounted files from my env
[06:54] <hunteke> borovy3488: ok, so commandline: for giggles, 'ping www.google.com'
[06:55] <CommonClone> usr13, no, the kernel is still there in the grub menu...I had this same problem after I installed ndiswrapper to make my wireless work, but all I had to do was go into recovery and do depmod -ae and modprobe ndiswrapper and it booted right back up...I tried that this time and it doesnt work
[06:55] <gunspoja> borovy3488, lol, being in military means you spontaneously call everyone "sir"?
[06:55] <borovy3488> hunteke: wow, I keep getting different readings. which one do you want?
[06:55] <gregorovius> after resuming from a suspend my sata hard drive dissapears... anyone knows anything about this?
[06:56] <borovy3488> gunspoja: basically, yes. fresh out of boot.
[06:56] <goldenratio> i want to know some advantages of ubuntu
[06:56] <J-_> !offtopic
[06:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:56] <gunspoja> goldenratio, there are many
[06:56] <hunteke> just give me the first, say five response lines: they'll end in 'time=23.3 ms' or something
[06:56] <gunspoja> goldenratio, open source
[06:56] <hunteke> you might pm that to me
[06:56] <usr13>  CommonClone you might also try ldconfig
[06:56] <hunteke> borovy3488: so as to not flood the channel
[06:56] <therapy> goldenratio: so?
[06:56] <CommonClone> ok...
[06:57] <goldenratio> i love linux and i waiting to try ubuntu
[06:57] <therapy> goldenratio: freedom, fun,...
[06:57] <gunspoja> well you probably already know the advantages then
[06:57] <goldenratio> its downloading
[06:57] <borovy3488> hunteke, going to send in PM
[06:57] <CommonClone> usr13, trying ldconfig and rebooting now...hope this works
[06:57] <hunteke> borovy3488: I respect your job, and thanks for doing what I consientiously can't do
[06:57] <gunspoja> ubuntu is a linux distro, so if you like linux then you should like ubuntu
[06:57] <hunteke> borovy3488: hit "Ctrl+C" to quit the ping program
[06:58] <CommonClone> usr13, nope...boot hangs again
[06:58] <usr13> CommonClone: WHere does it  hang?
[06:58] <usr13> CommonClone: what is the last completed task?
[06:59] <usr13> or last few?
[06:59] <bruenig> gunspoja, not reallyt
[06:59] <CommonClone> on the line that says its configuring network devices or something like that
[06:59] <hunteke> borovy3488: great, what that basically means is that you have connectivity
[06:59] <hunteke> borovy3488: basic troubleshooting, and so far so good
[06:59] <gunspoja> bruenig, btw you probably know me better as shiester_miester ;)
[07:00] <CommonClone> usr13, the last thing I did was uninstall firestarter...I noticed my network was still not working, I tried to see if anything was haywire there, and it wasn't, so I rebooted and here I am
[07:00] <gunspoja> what did you mean, bruenig ?  what not really?
[07:00] <usr13> CommonClone: Well, sounds like it's booted up, it's already to the point of bringing up the network.  SO sounds like the kernel is booted.
[07:00] <hunteke> borovy3488: next step, open up your web browser.  I assume you're using Firefox?
[07:00] <gunspoja> ubuntu is not really a linux distro? :P
[07:00] <bruenig> gunspoja, liking linux doesn't mean you like all linux distributions
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: you want my bittorrent output error?
[07:00] <hunteke> borovy3488: sure
[07:00] <gunspoja> well linux is the kernel; so he might just love the kernel but not the OSes
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: yes, I'm using Firefox, what did you need me to do?
[07:00] <CommonClone> usr13, yes the kernel is loaded, it hangs on "Configuring Network Interfaces"
[07:00] <gunspoja> sorry i mean the *rest* of the OSes
[07:00] <borovy3488> hunteke: posting error in PM
[07:00] <bruenig> but he might only like some distros and not others like I would assume most people do
[07:01] <hunteke> borovy3488: just surf to any web page, make sure that you can in fact load a normal web page
[07:01] <mmmiiikkkeee> in gutsy... if i boot with my wifi card pluged in a get a kernel panic(see bug 123224).... it works with older kernels.... is there hope for this to be fixed by oct 18th??
[07:01] <gunspoja> probably
[07:01] <therapy> borovy3488: did you have a firefox update?
[07:01] <hunteke> next step is to give me the error
[07:01] <h1st0> !gutsy > mmmiiikkkeee
[07:01] <gunspoja> mmmiiikkkeee, there definitely is a hope for that.  the kernel guys work hard on wireless stuff and they fix the bugs as well as they can
[07:01] <gunspoja> wireless is a pretty big issue, afaik
[07:01] <hunteke> borovy3488: hmm, well, we've just confirmed that you /do/ have inet connectivity
[07:01] <borovy3488> hunteke: every webpage is working fine, error is posted in PM
[07:02] <hunteke> so that would imply that the error is on the other end of things
[07:02] <usr13> CommonClone: Might look at /etc/rcS.d/S40networking file and see if anything is out of order there?
[07:02] <hunteke> borovy3488: the tracker is refusing you, which is a setting on their end
[07:02] <borovy3488> hunteke: i know, isn't it weird?
[07:02] <hunteke> borovy3488: can you give me the link and I'll try to download
[07:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> i was just wondering since i knw the new kernel moved to a new wifi stack.... was wondering if my older card was being left behind?
[07:02] <akio> if i was to redo my init scripts is there an easy way to do it?
[07:02] <therapy> borovy3488: try to download with another web browser
[07:02] <gunspoja> mmmiiikkkeee, thats possible.  if you need to use it then you could boot from the old kernel until its fixed?
[07:03] <CommonClone> usr13, sorry for the noobness but what exactly would I be looking for?  and btw...I'm new to ubuntu, whats the cmd for a comand line editor?
[07:03] <borovy3488> hunteke: you might not like what I'm trying to download. It kind of contradicts my occupation...
[07:03] <usr13> CommonClone: Can you tell if the system is running at all.  Can you do something like Ctrl-Alt-F2 or F3 or F4 or... ?
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: you'd be surprised what I do and don't like
[07:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea that what i am doing... but the old kernel does not work with web cam :(
[07:03] <usr13> CommonClone:  less
[07:03] <CommonClone> usr13, I can boot into recovery mode just fine and get a command line
[07:03] <borovy3488> therapy: what do you mean another browser? im using bittorrent
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: I respect your job and what you do, but I do not like what our gov is making you do
[07:03] <bruenig> respect killers, odd
[07:03] <hunteke> borovy3488: and, I don't get offended easily.
[07:04] <patbam> is there a key command to open the application menu?
[07:04] <borovy3488> hunteke: ok, good. To tell the truth, I do not agree with what the government is doing as well, its just a job for me. I'm a Ron Paul supporter actually
[07:05] <borovy3488> hunteke, i'm working on that link, just a second
[07:05] <hunteke> borovy3488: iz cool
[07:05] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, don't much about ron paul, but saw a lot of discreet signs with his name while I was in New Orleans last week.
[07:05] <hunteke> will hafta look him up
[07:05] <notdarkyet_> whats the ubuntu server help channel
[07:06] <bruenig> start menu, what a stupid title
[07:06] <gunspoja> heh
[07:06] <gunspoja> what would you call it?
[07:06] <borovy3488> hunteke: he is an amazing politician, thats all I have to say. he is probably the only honest man with the job.
[07:06] <bruenig> well it obviously isn't the start menu because it doesn't say start on it like it does in windows
[07:06] <gunspoja> I'd just call it "menu" and leave it at that
[07:06] <hunteke> borovy3488: heh, that's saying something
[07:07] <extole> patbam: alt-F1
[07:07] <borovy3488> hunteke: yea, to tell the truth, I was surprised
[07:07] <bruenig> or I assume that is the reason they call it the start menu, if there is some other reason other than that label, then maybe it is applicable to the gnome menus as well
[07:07] <flacom> hi all... where is the users file ...?
[07:07] <CommonClone> usr13, what would I be looking for in that file?  I would post it somewhere for you but I can't get to a web browser on that machine
[07:07] <Frogzoo_> flacom: for what?
[07:07] <hunteke> flacom: need more context, what is the larger problem?
[07:08] <gunspoja> flacom, the users rc file?
[07:08] <hunteke> borovy3488: as regards "other browser" . . a browser is something to "browse" or view something else
[07:08] <flacom> the users... like flaco:andpasswordEncripted
[07:08] <hunteke> flacom: do you mean /etc/passwd?
[07:08] <notdarkyet> gunspoja how you do that
[07:08] <Frogzoo_> flacom: /etc/shadow
[07:08] <borovy3488> hunteke: link posted in PM
[07:08] <gunspoja> notdarkyet, I don't, it was a guess
[07:09] <hunteke> flacom: be careful if you'r asking about that, then it's likely that you're smart enough to be dangerous
[07:09] <notdarkyet> what do you mean guess
[07:09] <gunspoja> hence the question mark
[07:09] <open-gl> i download ntfs-3g now where can i find the program
[07:09] <hunteke> flacom: *smart is bad word: knowledgable enough to be dangerous.
[07:09] <flacom> Frogzoo_
[07:09] <flacom> Frogzoo_ thks
[07:09] <notdarkyet> nevermind
[07:09] <extole> Anyone know how to have the system not prompt for your password after resuming from a suspend? (It's for my MythTV box)
[07:09] <gunspoja> notdarkyet, http://www.dictionary.com/browse/guess
[07:09] <hunteke> borovy3488: so another web browser means another program to view the web.  bruenig, I don't have one on the top of my head
[07:09] <gunspoja> that's what i meant
[07:09] <Frogzoo_> extole: it's in gnome power options
[07:09] <usr13> CommonClone: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39427/
[07:10] <bruenig> ?
[07:10] <borovy3488> hunteke: Yea, I'm not sure why i would need a new browser.
[07:11] <hunteke> borovy3488: ah, that's the problem.  You've already downloaded the torrent file, that is the file that lets you download your actual content.  What's coming up is probably the gnome bittorrent download or azureus
[07:12] <CommonClone> usr13, I imagine I would be looking for something strange in the first part dealing with configuring network interfaces, huh?
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: the problem is that I'll bet that torrent has been shut off since it was advertised
[07:12] <borovy3488> hunteke: huh?
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: that is not your problem, in the sense that everything on your end is just fine
[07:12] <erichj> default bt client boo
[07:12] <erichj> sudo apt-get install deluge-torrent
[07:12] <hunteke> borovy3488: sorry, which are you 'huh'ing at?
[07:13] <borovy3488> hunteke: but it is also happening with all different torrents as wel
[07:13] <hunteke> are they all from the same source?
[07:13] <usr13> CommonClone: Yes, if you don't see any significant differences, it's probably ok.
[07:13] <borovy3488> yea...
[07:14] <usr13> CommonClone: And we may be barking up the wrong tree in the first place.
[07:14] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah it looks fine to me
[07:14] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, well, the cynic in me is thinking that since it's of the content that you suggest, that someone has taken it down or is refusing connections to download it.
[07:14] <CommonClone> like I said earlier, when I installed ndiswrapper and configured it, after the reboot this exact same thing happened, but I fixed it by doing depmod -ae and modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:14] <usr13> CommonClone: Not starting the network should not stop the system
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488:  The actual reason could be any number of problems, but I assure you that your setup is correct.  It's the other end of things that is not working.
[07:15] <borovy3488> hunteke: OK, could you suggest another torrent just to try and make sure its working?
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488:  the best suggestion is to search for another copy of what you want
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488: yes, another torrent
[07:15] <usr13> Can you boot it back in normal mode and see what it looks like again.  Tell me if  you get any response from the system.  e.g Ctrl-Alt-F1 or F2 or F3 etc....
[07:15] <hunteke> borovy3488: are you asking for a demonstration torrent?
[07:16] <borovy3488> hunteke: yep
[07:16] <CommonClone> usr13...just a sec...rebooting now...
[07:17] <usr13> CommonClone: It could be the tainted kernel (due to ndiswrapper loading wireless driver).
[07:17] <noob69> hello
[07:17] <hunteke> borovy3488: ah erm, it's been a while.  Let me see if I can dig one up on a site.  yep, torrentspy.com is still there, as is isohunt.com, it seems . . . searching.
[07:17] <Evanlec> quick question: how do i make a shortcut command? like for instance i wanted to run 'wine c:\blah blah' by typing 'bf2' into the cmd line
[07:17] <gunspoja> gday noob
[07:18] <riotkittie> Evanlec:  alias bf2='your command goes here'
[07:18] <Evanlec> thanks!
[07:18] <CommonClone> usr13, ok ctrl-alt-f1 sends me to a terminal that stuck, but the last line says kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot
[07:18] <riotkittie> you can add the alias to .bashrc  or .bash_aliases, if you've set the latter up
[07:18] <Evanlec> i thot it might have to do with "alias"
[07:18] <Frogzoo_> Evanlec: in ~/.bash_aliases   add alias bf2='...'
[07:18] <Evanlec> riotkittie, oh to make it persistent?
[07:18] <borovy3488> hunteke: I just tried another torrent and it did the exact same thing
[07:18] <riotkittie> Evanlec: yea
[07:19] <Evanlec> riotkittie, what if ive never messed with .bashrc or .bash_aliases before?
[07:19] <usr13> CommonClone: "kinit:  No resume image"  (did we spell that right?)
[07:19] <Evanlec> riotkittie, does it require some setup?
[07:19] <riotkittie> Evanlec: not really. .bashrc is pre-existing, and if you open it in your favourite editor and go down, you'll see where to add it
[07:20] <Evanlec> ah k
[07:20] <CommonClone> usr13, yes thats what is says...the cursor is blinking right underneath that, enter does nothing, and at the very bottom of the screen it says kernel alive
[07:20] <xImortal> @@
[07:20] <xImortal> \o
[07:21] <xImortal> o
[07:21] <xImortal> o/
[07:21] <xImortal> hi =D
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrm, let's try a couple of things
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: first, let's get you a better bittorrent downloader: Azureus
[07:21] <riotkittie> Evanlec: and if it doesnt work on the first try, type source .bashrc in a term and try again
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: go to Applications->Add/Remove
[07:21] <usr13> CommonClone: What does it say on Ctrl-Alt-F8
[07:21] <hunteke> borovy3488: (bottom of menu)
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: Ive tried ti
[07:22] <borovy3488> *it
[07:22] <hunteke> borovy3488: mmk, didn't like it?
[07:22] <noob69> can someone help me
[07:22] <riotkittie> azureus is irritating
[07:22] <riotkittie> noob69: ask your question, and lets see :P
[07:22] <CommonClone> usr14, sends me to a screen where the last line is stuck on * Configuring network interfaces
[07:22] <usr13> CommonClone: Is this a fully updated 7.04 system we're working with here?
[07:22] <CommonClone> *usr13, sorry
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: I didn't really want to get into it, but I have an issue with azureus. it will not open. at all. it will show the window, then disappear.
[07:22] <borovy3488> hunteke: I might even still have it installed
[07:23] <xubean> Hey experts, i have problem with upgrading to gutsy beta, think anyone can help me?
[07:23] <hunteke> borovy3488: then run this test for me: at the commandline type 'java -version'
[07:23] <riotkittie> xubean: you may be better off asking in #ubuntu+1 , where gutsy support takes place ;P
[07:23] <noob69> well im reading a book on how to program in C++ and i want to try the example of the C++ programs
[07:23] <xubean> ok thanks, but can you tell me how i get there? sorry i'm a real noob
[07:23] <CommonClone> yes...freshly installed this afternoon...only thing significant I added was ati drivers, xgl, compiz, all that worked after a reboot...no problems...I tried to install firestarter and here I am
[07:23] <Kitsun> hunteke, borovy3488: when I installed azureus offical repos it never worked for me, but installing from Automatix2 worked
[07:24] <borovy3488> hunteke: output in PM
[07:24] <noob69> basically my problem is I know there is a C++ compiler on this computer but im not sure how to compile the C++ program i will be writing
[07:24] <xubean> nevermind riotkittie, i got in, thanks
[07:24] <hunteke> Kitsun: haven't had to use Automatix2 yet, but I'll bet what Automatix2 did that the official repos didn't do was to install Sun's version of Java, rather than gnu's gcj
[07:24] <riotkittie> !automatix
[07:24] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:25] <usr13> If you uninstalled firestarter, I don't know for sure if it left the script behind.  And that could be a problem.  But still not one that would cause the X server not to run.
[07:25] <hunteke> borovy3488: hrmm, alright, that means you're using Sun's Java, which is good
[07:25] <usr13> CommonClone: Can you do command   dmesg  ?
[07:25] <Oetmet> does anyone know a way to recover *data* from a formatted/corrupted linux partition?
[07:25] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " thought openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:25] <hunteke> borovy3488: but still leaves us in the dark for azureus
[07:25] <CommonClone> usr13, ok, let me reboot into recovery...
[07:25] <fulat2k> hi folks, i just installed evolution with the exchange connector.  then configured an exchange mailbox by placing my username (in the form of domainname\id) and the OWA url.  it somehow says it encountered an unknown error.  but if i use the browser to connect, i'm able to login.  any ideas?
[07:25] <usr13> CommonClone: or  log in first
[07:25] <usr13> no
[07:25] <Kitsun> how can I set the ESSID of my wifi from a command line?
[07:26] <usr13> CommonClone: can you log into the system as is?
[07:26] <h1st0> Kitsun: iwconfig ethx essid blah
[07:26] <hunteke> can anyone else point us in the direction of another bittorrent client?  I haven't had to bittorrent in quite awhile so nothing's fresh
[07:26] <h1st0> hunteke: I use ktorrent
[07:26] <CommonClone> usr13, I can only boot into recovery
[07:26] <borovy3488> hunteke: i also have bittornado
[07:26] <h1st0> hunteke: but there is a default gnome bit torrent
[07:26] <nee_ya> hai
[07:26] <hunteke> borovy3488: I have to go to bed as I have to get up in 5 hours, but I'll give you a link that I think works in PM
[07:26] <pavi>  hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:27] <hunteke> h1st0: cool, ktorrent may be an option, but we'll first try his other client
[07:27] <alfermp> hello
[07:27] <alfermp> do u know how can i sync treo 750 with ubuntu?
[07:27] <hunteke> h1st0: I'm also thinking we may have multiple issues going on
[07:27] <CommonClone> usr13, what would you be looking for in dmesg
[07:27] <hunteke> borovy3488: alright, can you start bittornado
[07:27] <hunteke> then manually give it the url
[07:27] <Oetmet> does anyone know a way to recover *data* from a formatted/corrupted linux partition?
[07:27] <nee_ya> bule smua bo'
[07:27] <usr13> CommonClone: Did you reboot to the recovery-mode?
[07:28] <CommonClone> usr13, yes
[07:28] <h1st0> alfermp: is it a palm device?
[07:28] <nee_ya> i dont understand all
[07:28] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:28] <h1st0> !patience > pavi
[07:28] <borovy3488> hunteke: can we do this some other time? i need some sleep as well
[07:28] <pavi> k
[07:28] <usr13> CommonClone: never mind.  can't tell anything from dmesg now.
[07:28] <alfermp> yes it is
[07:28] <alfermp> Palm treo 750
[07:28] <h1st0> !palm > alfermp
[07:28] <usr13> CommonClone: see if you still have the firestarter script
[07:28] <alfermp> yeap
[07:29] <h1st0> alfermp: read the message from ubotu
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488: I /think/ that's a good torrent.  Actually haha I am tired, it's good but no one is uploading for you
[07:29] <CommonClone> usr13: how do I do that?
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488: stupid me.
[07:29] <hunteke> borovy3488:  yes, but I'll be out of touch for about 48 hours as I'm teaching a workshop during the day tomorrow, and then traveling back home
[07:29] <usr13> CommonClone: ls /etc/rcS.d/      and see if you see a firewall script.
[07:29] <alfermp> about the automatix2?
[07:30] <borovy3488> hunteke: its no big deal. hopefully i can figure it out soon. maybe see you back on here in 2 days.
[07:30] <hunteke> borovy3488: I urge you not to give on Linux/Ubuntu just yet.  I won't kid you, that if you're used to Windows, it'll be a little bit of a learning curve
[07:30] <Flannel> !automatix | alfermp
[07:30] <ubotu> alfermp: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:30] <borovy3488> hunteke: thanks for the help. im not giving up yet!
[07:30] <usr13> CommonClone: Actually, I dont think that's it in the first place though, because just not starting the network will not cause the system to fail to finish booting and starting X
[07:30] <CommonClone> usr13, would it be named something other than firewall
[07:31] <hunteke> borovy3488: and that Linux is still suffering some growing pains, but I think in the end you'll find linux just as capable if not more so for all that you need to do, modulo games (that's still a ways off, I think.)
[07:31] <hunteke> borovy3488:  good, I'm glad :-)
[07:31] <CommonClone> usr13, it did the same thing after I configured ndiswrapper
[07:31] <hunteke> alright, I'm off to bed.
[07:31] <usr13> CommonClone: not sure.  I don't  have firestarter
[07:31] <hunteke> good luck on your problem in the meantime
[07:31] <pavi> please help me
[07:31] <phoo_> hey! when i use audacity, i dont have the option to open alsa as sound playback device, but the input does work well!
[07:31] <CommonClone> system hung at the same spot
[07:32] <usr13> CommonClone: how many kernels do you have on the boot menu?  Only 2?
[07:32] <nee_ya> hey
[07:32] <xImortal> bye peoples =***
[07:32] <nee_ya> somebody help me
[07:32] <pavi> h1st0 thr ?
[07:32] <CommonClone> usr13, I have an older one also
[07:32] <usr13> CommonClone: try booting to that older one.
[07:32] <CommonClone> ok
[07:32] <Flannel> paradon_: you need to have libssl-dev instlled
[07:32] <h1st0> pavi: ?
[07:33] <pavi> yes
[07:33] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:34] <CommonClone> usr13, oh how I love linux...it magically booted up now into the new kernel
[07:34] <CrypTom> hi all, I have several additional sources in sources.list. How can I easily see from within aptitude from which source a package is taken/upgraded?
[07:34] <usr13> CommonClone: Is your network up and running?
[07:34] <Flannel> CrypTom: apt-cache policy [package]  will show you.  No idea if you can do that from within aptitude.
[07:34] <CrypTom> Flannel: thanks
[07:35] <usr13> CommonClone: What kernel is it?  uname -a
[07:36] <CommonClone> usr13...yes sorry for the wait...network works now
[07:36] <usr13> CommonClone: What kernel?
[07:37] <CommonClone> usr13...2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP
[07:37] <mmaca> Hola
[07:38] <Andre_-_> hi
[07:38] <usr13> CommonClone: What processor(s) ?
[07:38] <fulat2k> hi folks, i just installed evolution with the exchange connector.  then configured an exchange mailbox by placing my username (in the form of domainname\id) and the OWA url.  it somehow says it encountered an unknown error.  but if i use the browser to connect, i'm able to login.  any ideas?
[07:38] <CommonClone> usr13, AMD64
[07:38] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:38] <usr13> CommonClone: Dual core?
[07:38] <Oetmet> I want to know which files contains the text '<%' in all files which name starts with "#129" and when running the file command outputs 'ASCII'
[07:38] <Oetmet> any idea on how to do that?
[07:39] <usr13> CommonClone: Well, leave the system running for a while, like overnight.  Make sure it's fully updated
[07:39] <CommonClone> usr13, yes..its an AMD Turino64x2
[07:39] <Oetmet> something like... file \#129*
[07:39] <usr13> CommonClone: sudo apt-get update
[07:40] <Oetmet> I want to find the text "<%" in all the files generated by this command: file \#129* | grep 'ASCII'
[07:40] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah...thanks for the help...er...hand holding...or whatever...yeah I'm fully updated
[07:40] <Oetmet> all the files found
[07:40] <Oetmet> by that command
[07:41] <usr13> CommonClone: leave it running (linux does some things in the background that need to be done).
[07:42] <CommonClone> usr13, yeah, I know...I've been using SuSE on my desktop at home but I got tired of all the BS trying to get the hardware to work on my laptop(the one I was having trouble with) so I put ubuntu on it, and everything magically worked...except this whole network thing
[07:43] <usr13> CommonClone: Fully supported wifi stuff is better / easier to deal with.
[07:43] <Theory_> SuSE is pain.
[07:43] <frostburn> suse is better for servers than a desktop.  each distro is good for it's own niche
[07:44] <usr13> CommonClone: But this may never happen again.  I wish we could have found out what the problem really was.  Never did. it just fixed itself.
[07:44] <CommonClone> yeah, I know, I got a deal on this laptop since I'm in college(brand new inspiron 1721 2 gb ram 1.8 ghz dual core 17" screen less that $1G) but it came with broadcom wifi
[07:45] <Theory_> I had trouble getting online with ubuntu at first.  After using ndiswrapper it worked though.
[07:45] <Theory_> driver problems..
[07:46] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:46] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[07:47] <usr13> frostburn: It's difficult to really designate one distro is better, it often depends on the implementation and the various application configurations.  It's really the same to tell you the truth.  Package management is where the biggest differences lie.
[07:47] <frostburn> usr13, i agree
[07:48] <CommonClone> I really like Yast in SuSE...its great, and zypper works awesomely fast in 10.3RC1
[07:48] <Ahadiel> nn
[07:48] <frostburn> CommonClone, i used suse for my laptop as well, but i had to use ndiswraper for the networking.  some things never change
[07:48] <CommonClone> but ubuntu is a far superior product for a notbook or non power user
[07:49] <usr13>  frostburn;  Debian is nice for building servers, but to tell you the truth, my preference for server install is RH / Fedora.
[07:49] <LinuxJuggalo> i like RHEL for servers
[07:50] <LinuxJuggalo> debian is great as server too
[07:50] <frostburn> usr13, i know a few masochists that use gentoo for production servers
[07:50] <CommonClone> you know whats weird...when I had SuSE 10.2 on this laptop, compiz ran horribly slow...I thought my card sucked or something...but w/ ubuntu all the eyecandy stuff is way smoother
[07:50] <Theory_> CommonClone, Thats cause ubuntu rox0rz.
[07:50] <Theory_> ;)
[07:50] <usr13> frostburn: Slackware is good too for servers, I can probably do Slackware quicker.  But again, (as we've just demonstrated), it's all good.
[07:51] <usr13> I must say that I've yet to build a gentoo system.  I would probably like it alot too.  :)
[07:51] <frostburn> usr13, what are you waiting for?
[07:51] <CommonClone> and just setting up the eyecandy (XGL) is hell in SuSE...btw...I heard ATI is going to have support for AIGLX in the next driver...anyone know anything about that?
[07:52] <usr13> Will Rogers or someone said something about people that would come close to the way I feel about Linux;  Ive never met a Linux box I didn't like.
[07:52] <Oetmet> I want to find the text "<%" in all the files found by this command: file \#129* | grep 'ASCII'
[07:52] <Oetmet> any idea?
[07:52] <GNine> to apply changes made to xorg.conf i should restart X, correct?
[07:53] <jport> yup yup yup
[07:53] <jport> CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[07:53] <usr13>  frostburn  Yes you're right, I should try it... But I gave up long time ago on trying to "try 'em all".  There are just TOO many.
[07:53] <tyler_d> cifs server installation/configuration issue.... sudo echo "/cifs /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master..... returns permission denied?
[07:53] <GNine> well.. i did and the changes didnt quite get 'applied'... i'll try again
[07:53] <usr13> At one time. I wanted to do Linux from Scratch.
[07:54] <frostburn> usr13, well, just try gentoo because it's package management is completely orthogonal to any other previous
[07:54] <apastinen> Hi, does someone know what is the max size of the hard disk with kernel xen-image-2.6.19-4-generic-amd64?? or reason why i get following message in boot: attempt to access beyond end of device \n sda: rw=0, want=1250274690, limit=625142448
[07:55] <apastinen> .. i mean paritition, not hard disk..
[07:55] <GNine> i dont think am going to try anything else desktop wise.. except compiz
[07:55] <intr80> Anybody know the 'ununtu way' to get a configured, compiled unbuntu patched kernel?
[07:55] <usr13> frostburn: Sounds interesting.
[07:55] <intr80> There's got to be a simple way to do it
[07:56] <GNine> that depends on your definition of simple.
[07:56] <frostburn> apastinen, it depends on the file system.  not sure about the kernel message
[07:56] <usr13> I really like the simplicity and the minimalistic aspect of Slackware and it's [old/primitave]  installer.
[07:56] <intr80> GNine: I have quite a bit of expeirience with kernel development, but I've never had interest in starting with a distro specific kernel.
[07:56] <apastinen> my partition is LVM, the size was something like 500G..
[07:56] <intr80> GNine: Any ideas.
[07:57] <frostburn> intr80, i believe you can ownload the latest source and just copy the makefile, but make sure to run the command to upgrade it to the nwest version.  i haven't done it in a long time though
[07:57] <frostburn> copy the makefile from your previous kernel*
[07:57] <co_simle> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:57] <GNine> otherwise every patch for any kernel i have seen so far already comes compiled and installs with no problem .  if you are self compiling thats a different subject
[07:57] <intr80> frostburn: I'm certain they've patched the kernel, every distro does.
[07:57] <intr80> Isnt there an apt-get install linux-kernel-source or something?
[07:58] <GNine> indeed
[07:58] <BHSPitMonkey> My alt-tab functionality stopped working altogether.  X has been restarted, reboots have taken place, still dead.  Thoughts?
[07:58] <GNine> for example, to upgrade to gutsy from 7.04 just do    update-manager -d   from terminal
[07:58] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: new keyboard maybe
[07:59] <BHSPitMonkey> tyler_d, thanks for the tip, but it has nothing to do with the hardware.
[07:59] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: do you have compiz installed? or beryl? config in one of those could be an issue as well
[07:59] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, check system -> pref -> keybd shortcuts   andmake sure alt-tab is mapped, if you're using desktop effects make sure it's mapped under the copiz control panel
[07:59] <tyler_d> BHSPitMonkey: yw
[07:59] <BHSPitMonkey> tyler_d, I do, but not running.
[07:59] <usr13> intr80: Ubuntu is all about distro-specific.  It's all about automation and not doing things manually.  But I think that compiling and installing a custom kernel would be the same with any distro.
[08:00] <intr80> usr13: most distros are.  I'd like to tweek with my audio driver though, and It's a pain to start with a vanilla kernel and configure it.
[08:00] <GNine> desktop-effects is no longer an option for gutsy .. (side note)
[08:00] <intr80> I'd like to avoid that process if possible.
[08:00] <tyler_d> ubuntu------->vista mounting a sharepoint? anyone help.... config using cifs?
[08:00] <intr80> eh, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20
[08:00] <px> hello people
[08:00] <intr80> Hello, px.
[08:00] <BHSPitMonkey> frostburn, I'm using metacity now (and usually);  should the compiz keybindings be interfering while it's not running?
[08:01] <px> can someone please help me how to send a fax? im using ubuntu dapper
[08:01] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, no, i don't believe so
[08:01] <px> you can pm me, tnx
[08:01] <GNine> (mouse reconfigured)
[08:01] <BHSPitMonkey> GNine, you say that as if they've been removed..
[08:01] <px> hi intr80!
[08:02] <intr80> px, I know nothing of faxes in linux. :)
[08:02] <mossby> Question : I just installed Gutsy beta from scratch but my wireless connection is not working...well it IS working, but it isnt --- i can see the networks in my area, i can even "connect" to them at 82% signal strength, but firefox only loads up error pages and i cant even talk to my router via 192.168.1.1 -- 30 mins ago i was in fiesty working fine :)
[08:02] <tyler_d> px: I have tried with no success.... are you trying that with a winmodem? let me know how you make out
[08:02] <px> intr80, oh i see
[08:03] <usr13> mossby> are you picking up dns server IPs?
[08:03] <px> tyler_d, im using an external voice/fax modem
[08:03] <usr13> mossby: less /etc/resolv.conf
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> frostburn, well, thanks-   for some reason, my keybinding for gnome was modified
[08:03] <tyler_d> px: prolly better luck then me, gl mang
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> even though I don't mess with those settings...
[08:03] <mossby> usr13: i dont think so, they were empty in the network control panel
[08:03] <lunz> anyone knows how to install login screen?i have artmanager but doesnt know how to install it..can anyone help?
[08:03] <frostburn> BHSPitMonkey, i hate when that happens, no prob
[08:03] <BHSPitMonkey> fixed now, I can be sane again
[08:04] <usr13> mossby: that is more than likely your problem.
[08:04] <usr13> Can you ping one of them?
[08:04] <usr13> (dns server?
[08:04] <px> ok
[08:04] <pavi> hello, while installing sifybroadband client which requires openssl i am getting error "cannot open libssl.so.4 : no such file or directory " though openssl is installed and is up to date. can some one help me on this.
[08:04] <pavi> can somebody help please ?
[08:04] <mossby> usr13: how can i ping them without connecting?
[08:04] <usr13> mossby: Can you ping one of the designated dns server addresses?
[08:04] <px> is anyone here from philippines?
[08:04] <px> s
[08:05] <usr13> mossby: Ok, let's start over. Does the essid of the client match that of the router?
[08:05] <graelb> Ok, I just installed 3dchess... and don't know how to run it
[08:05] <graelb> ...
[08:05] <usr13> mossby: iwconfig
[08:06] <dfgas> http://burhite.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1626
[08:06] <mossby> usr13: yes, i had the router all setup with password etc... and couldnt connect, so i reset the router to its default 'linksys' and then still couldnt connect
[08:06] <usr13> mossby: Do you have an IP assigned to the clinet, by the router?
[08:07] <usr13> ifconfig
[08:08] <usr13> mossby: Bring up a terminal window and issue command "iwconfig" and see if essid says "linksys"
[08:08] <mossby> usr13: hmm, ill have to boot back into gutsy to figure some of this out -- ive had the same setup since edgy, never had to do anything... brb
[08:09] <ColdFlo> so where is good place for questions?
[08:09] <usr13> ColdFlo: here
[08:10] <ColdFlo> ok so looks like many people had this problem so far searches provided half az ans how i fix nvidia driver if i get black screen after loader on boot?
[08:12] <ColdFlo> lol none wants to touch it
[08:12] <xiaujuin> loooooooooooooooo
[08:12] <lunz> how can i change the login screen?
[08:12] <xiaujuin> what is your name
[08:12] <aldanon> could someone help me with compiling the new x-fi 64 bit driver?
[08:12] <xiaujuin> how do you do
[08:12] <px> ColdFlo, is it black screen only in gdm?
[08:13] <Schalken> lunz: system > administration > login screen
[08:13] <kanjo_> hello
[08:13] <aldanon> hiya kanjo
[08:13] <usr13> lunz: Computer -> System Configuration -> Login Screen Setup -> Graphical Greeter -> Install New Theme ->
[08:13] <kanjo_> i have a query regarding compiling kernel on ubuntu
[08:13] <px> lunz, check out gnome-look.org
[08:13] <aldanon> I'm kinda hoping someone here is good at compiling drivers hehe
[08:13] <xiaujuin> i am in indonesia and you
[08:14] <usr13> aldanon: What driver?
[08:14] <ColdFlo> in gdm i dont understand but it says something kernel 800000-120000000 for brief second at bottom of screen then monitor loses signal then it came back but now it doesnt
[08:14] <aldanon> x-fi 64bit
[08:14] <xiaujuin> car
[08:14] <lunz> thanks usr13
[08:14] <kanjo_> everytime I recompile the kernel, install the deb, it always miss the firmware for my ipw2200, is there a way to automatically build or install the firmware along the kernel-image deb file?
[08:14] <NemesisD> is there any way to run SSH where a user on the server end can watch what you're doing in real time?
[08:14] <aldanon> can you help out usr13?
[08:15] <quang> hi every body
[08:15] <xiaujuin> i am hanifan in bandung java in you
[08:15] <aldanon> if your not familiar with x-fi - it's the next gen soundblaster by creative
[08:15] <ivanhoe> anyone where can y get the  .deb from openproject
[08:15] <ivanhoe> y dont find in the web
[08:16] <aldanon> i've looked, but the directions are too difficult for me to follow
[08:16] <aldanon> most of them are for gentoo
[08:16] <xiaujuin> hai what us your name
[08:16] <px> ColdFlo, you have to revert to your "nv" driver and install back nvidia driver. I had the same problem. You can boot in recovery mode and edit the xorg.conf file. you may have set up your refresh rate too high or too low
[08:16] <usr13> ashok_: Where are the directions?
[08:16] <usr13> aldanon: where are the directions?
[08:16] <ColdFlo> dracula is one crazy movie what an allegory
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: is it a tarball?
[08:17] <xiaujuin> are you as hole
[08:17] <aldanon> some were
[08:17] <aldanon> i found a few sets of directions
[08:17] <xiaujuin> avnged seven fold
[08:17] <aldanon> some were tarball
[08:17] <ColdFlo> px how i do that with recovery console?
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: does it say stuff about configure, make, make install
[08:17] <xiaujuin> you are dandut
[08:17] <aldanon> yep
[08:17] <usr13> aldanon: NOt that difficult really
[08:18] <aldanon> yeah i never had a problem before compiling, but apparently this driver has to have a homemade patch applied before it will work
[08:18] <ColdFlo> you know when dracula stabs the cross
[08:18] <usr13> aldanon: save the file to a directory like temp, mkdir temp
[08:18] <ColdFlo> the cross with the circle in the middle that circle is the sun
[08:18] <ColdFlo> because jesus is a sun god
[08:19] <aldanon> pm me usr13
[08:19] <usr13> aldanon: tell me where you got the dirver?
[08:19] <px> ColdFlo, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf there's a comment there on how to reconfigure/reset your xorg.conf file, do that. it should fix your black screen. then you can reinstall your nvidia driver
[08:19] <kanjo_> can someone here show me how to recompile the kernel that produces 2 separate packages kernel-image and kernel-modules like Gutsy's (linux-image and ubuntu-modules)?
[08:19] <aldanon> opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html
[08:20] <ColdFlo> px i need more detailed than that
[08:20] <Random> Wafterbotsewrs!
[08:21] <ColdFlo> how does ubuntu even know the right driver to install?
[08:21] <ColdFlo> seems that restricted drivers install sucks
[08:21] <Pskol__> testing
[08:21] <px> ColdFlo, just login in your recovery console. that file contains all the detail you need
[08:22] <ColdFlo> lol
[08:22] <ColdFlo> no it doesnt
[08:22] <ColdFlo> look i refuse to start acting like a groveler
[08:22] <ColdFlo> and im not going to admit anything either
[08:23] <ColdFlo> because i know what that does to nixheads
[08:23] <ColdFlo> thats right i used windows and im proud of it
[08:23] <AJ--> /exec -o uname -a  <--- wat is this command for?
[08:24] <ColdFlo> now px is there some kind of guide for this
[08:24] <Oetmet> I need to get which files contains a certain 'string' in a directory with 204,451 files... Find says 'argument list is too long'
[08:24] <Oetmet> any idea?
[08:24] <ColdFlo> this being ubuntu and all and not gentoo?
[08:24] <AJ--> /exec -o uname -a  <--- can someone tell me wat is this command for
[08:25] <px> ColdFlo, look in ubuntu forums
[08:25] <ColdFlo> ok px you are unhelpful
[08:25] <ColdFlo> faggot
[08:25] <compwiz18> is there any easy to use software for Ubuntu that graph equations like y=x, etc?
[08:25] <Amaranth> wow lag
[08:26] <jack|ass> Can anyone recommend a new laptop that is well supported by Linux?
[08:26] <scguy318> compwiz18: i think we have some math software in the repos lemme look
[08:26] <jack|ass> I'm in the market for a new one, yet very very lazy and not wanting to do research. :P
[08:26] <Schalken> compwiz18: kmplot?
[08:27] <Schalken> compwiz18: gnuplot?
[08:27] <Schalken> (gnuplot is not easy to use)
[08:27] <scguy318> jack|ass: i cant, I haven't bought any new machines in ages :(
[08:27] <compwiz18> Schalken, yeah, gnuplot is the reason I added easy to use in my question :)
[08:27] <jack|ass> scguy318: my pentium-M is finally slow enough to make me want a new one.
[08:28] <jack|ass> although oddly Gutsy beta seems MUCH slower than feisty...
[08:28] <Schalken> compwiz18: kmplot is very simple, not very powerful though
[08:28] <Amaranth> jack|ass: http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[08:28] <J-_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeSoftwareLaptop
[08:28] <jack|ass> Amaranth: no dells. :)  Although i'll check out what they do.
[08:28] <compwiz18> Schalken, Alright, I'll see if I can learn to use gnuplot
[08:29] <Amaranth> jack|ass: Well, you can go there or something much more expensive
[08:29] <scguy318> compwiz18: does kmplot not cut it for you?
[08:29] <Amaranth> jack|ass: Or randomly pick something that uses intel graphics and wireless and hope the suspend/resume and such works
[08:29] <compwiz18> scguy318, I haven
[08:29] <compwiz18> scguy318, I haven't tried it yet, but I will momentarily
[08:29] <Schalken> compwiz18: if you just want to visualise simple equations, kmplot does the job. gnuplot is more flexible and more used to make graphs for documents.
[08:29] <jack|ass> Amaranth: i've been soured on dells after having to service them for years at the university.
[08:29] <scguy318> compwiz18: kk :) if those packages do not satisfy, there are a few Java applets floating around on the Internet that can do some limited graphing features
[08:30] <compwiz18> scguy318, that's what I've been using so far :P
[08:30] <scguy318> Amaranth: the devs reallly need to work on suspend/resume :(
[08:31] <Amaranth> scguy318: How?
[08:31] <compwiz18> I was kinda leaning away from kmplot because it requires all the qt depends and I haven't installed them yet
[08:32] <Amaranth> scguy318: We have people working on it fairly constantly but can only do it for hardware we understand
[08:32] <charlie5> hi all ... i'm installing a geforce 7600gs card and have a problem ... when ubuntu boots, i get an error saying the power supply has not being connected ... it also offers an option for the X config file to disable the power check, but i'm worried it will fry the card ... as is, the card seems to work ok (except that the nvidia driver will not load also due to power prob) ... would anyone be familiar with this card ?
[08:32] <scguy318> Amaranth: that's what I mean, keep on working :)
[08:33] <compwiz18> Amaranth, is that why suspend/resume only works occasionally on fglrx systems?
[08:33] <scguy318> compwiz18: i find that ATI chips fail at suspend in general, though my perspective is probably quite limited
[08:33] <compwiz18> well, some days mine works, some days it doesn't, most days I don't need it :)
[08:34] <scguy318> charlie5: i don't possess such a card, but have you checked the fine plugs on your card?
[08:34] <Amaranth> compwiz18: that's be fglrx
[08:35] <charlie5> scguy318: not really ... i'm not sure what they would look like :/
[08:35] <compwiz18> I'm hoping eventually we'll have open source ATI drivers that support 3d all ati cards
[08:35] <scguy318> compwiz18: probably months off, but that dream seems to be closer
[08:35] <Amaranth> scguy318: at least a year off
[08:36] <compwiz18> scguy318, hopefully :) the ones now work pretty well as long as you don't need suspend
[08:36] <compwiz18> or aiglx
[08:36] <scguy318> compwiz18: the latest ATI driver that's supposedly due this month apparently adds AIGLX support
[08:36] <scguy318> charlie5: well, could you be specific about the error message that you encounter?
[08:36] <compwiz18> scguy318, that's what I'm hoping :D
[08:36] <charlie5> scguy318: here's a picture of the board (not very big sorry) ... http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gf7_agp/7600gs.htm
[08:37] <scguy318> charlie5: dunno, check the plug that huge fan hooks up to? :P
[08:37] <scguy318> charlie5: perhaps your power supply cant deliver
[08:38] <charlie5> scguy318: :) ... don't say that ! ... ;) ... i've been worried the whole thing will go up in smoke any moment
[08:39] <scguy318> charlie5: well, if your power supply can't deliver, you'll probably need another, what's the output of your current one?
[08:39] <larsemil> is there any program similar to adobe indesign?
[08:39] <cellofellow> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop. I'm used to Xubuntu. How do I add workspaces to GNOME? I can't find it for the life of me.
[08:39] <scguy318> larsemil: OpenOffice.org, Scribus
[08:40] <larsemil> openoffice is not even close.
[08:40] <larsemil> scribus i never tried.
[08:40] <scguy318> larsemil: well, those are my suggestions, keep in mind that you probably know more about your needs than I do :)
[08:40] <scguy318> cellofellow: I'm using Xfce, and I can't recall :(
[08:41] <charlie5> scguy318: i need to open up the case to check ... i'll take a closer look at the vid card also to see if it looks likeit accepts a power input ... thanks for the help ... back in a bit, if all goes well
[08:41] <cellofellow> scguy318: dang, I'm so used to the xfce way.
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: oh I think I figured it out
[08:41] <mossby> usr13: i dunno man, its so messed up... i have the most common router and usb link known to man, the essid matched after iwconfig... also sometimes the wireless device 'wlan0' just dissappears, other times its replaced by 'wlan0:avahi'
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: right click the workspace switcher applet, then preferences
[08:41] <cellofellow> scguy318: you can just middle click the desktop and "add Workspace".
[08:41] <cellofellow> tried that.
[08:41] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah, didn't know that :)
[08:42] <jamison_> anyone know the command to rund wxpython
[08:42] <Pskol__> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic - Debian 4.0]  up[ 2 hours, 17 minutes]  cpu[AMD Duron(tm) processor, 1202.766 MHz (2408.18 bogomips)]  mem[ 244.51/250.08 MB (97.8%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (32 bits)] 
[08:42] <cellofellow> scguy318: that just gives me a dialog that asks how many rows I want the workspaces to be displayed as.
[08:43] <Curs0r> does anyone play WoW under wine? my roommate's audio is being weird, he only hears sound from certain angles and the voice chat doesn't work for him at all
[08:43] <cellofellow> jamison_: wxpython is more of a programming language than a program. If you just open python in a terminal, and import wx, you can play with it.
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: isn't there a number of workspaces box?
[08:43] <cellofellow> scguy318: not that I can see. :(
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: :(
[08:43] <cellofellow> scguy318: using Gutsy, so that may be why.
[08:43] <scguy318> Curs0r: have you selected ALSA in winecfg?
[08:43] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah
[08:43] <compwiz18> kmplot seems to work ok, thanks :)
[08:43] <jamison_> oh i thought it was like wxglade
[08:43] <Curs0r> scguy318, yes
[08:44] <cellofellow> jamison_: nah, wxglade is for creating GUI's to use in wxPython programs.
[08:44] <scguy318> Curs0r: mm, you may be better served in #winehq
[08:44] <Curs0r> scguy318, thanks
[08:45] <jamison_> well cool thanks
[08:46] <scguy318> cellofellow: OT, but are you connecting from work? and my Workspace Applet help page sez its something under Workspaces, but they must have changed in Gutsy's GNOME version
[08:46] <c3LT1cFr05t> hello one and all!
[08:46] <Pskol__> Linux vitor 2.6.20-16-generic - Cpu0: AMD Duron 1203MHz; /: 37G(f=23G); Up: 2:21; Users: 4; Load: 0.14;
[08:46] <cellofellow> scguy318: I'm at home.
[08:47] <mossby> has there been much talk concerning wireless problems in Gutsy?
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: ah, ok, your hostmask suggested some sort of corporation :)
[08:48] <cellofellow> oh, and this screwy Synaptics touchpad is way too sensitive. I installed gSynaptics but it said I needed in some option in xorg.conf, whatever it was.
[08:48] <mossby> ive never had a problem since Dapper, always works out of the box,  i have a WRT45G, the most common router ever
[08:48] <cellofellow> scguy318: nah, just an odd ISP.
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: can't you go SYstem -> Administration -> Mouse or something
[08:48] <scguy318> cellofellow: i forgot
[08:48] <jamison_> does anyone know where i can find a list of ubuntu terminal commands. such as apt-get VS aptitude?
[08:48] <scguy318> cellowfellow: the Synaptics issue is one I've heard before though
[08:49] <cellofellow> scguy318: yes, but that doesn't give enough options.
[08:49] <scguy318> !bash
[08:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:49] <cellofellow> jamison_: I wrote this a while ago, but should be relevant: http://mellowcellofellow.googlepages.com/apt-for-ubuntu
[08:50] <scguy318> im going for the night, cya all
[08:53] <ajcabando> any links for an updated guide for compiz-fusion
[08:54] <jamison_> is there any better terminals then the default one that comes with ubuntu
[08:55] <ajcabando> any links for an updated guide for compiz-fusion?
[08:55] <mtholdenss> well install on beta won't work, odd..
[08:56] <Crush`> is there a simple way to see if a file has more than n number of lines?
[08:57] <simplechat_> hey, if i reinstall windows, how do i get ubuntu back onto my mbr?
[08:58] <simplechat_> crush grep -n file (iirc)
[08:58] <riotkittie> simplechat_: you'll need to pop a ubuntu live CD in and recover grub
[08:58] <riotkittie> !grub | simplechat_
[08:58] <ubotu> simplechat_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <Curs0r> grub is easy to install
[08:58] <Crush`> thanks
[08:58] <simplechat> riotkittie: so theres a backup of grub somewhere?
[08:59] <riotkittie> i'm not sure i'd go so far as to call it a backup...  you're basically just setting it up again
[08:59] <simplechat> !grub | simplechat__
[08:59] <ubotu> simplechat__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:00] <simplechat> riotkittie, i take it should save my ~/ now?
[09:00] <oberdober> Hello all :) would someone be able to tell me where I can find the mysql-devel package or even just the mysql.h header file?
[09:00] <simplechat> before i reinstall windows?
[09:00] <mtholdenss> howcome i can't install the beta from the livecd?
[09:00] <jim__> crush:maybe take a look at "wc" too ie. wc - print the number of newlines, words, and bytes in files
[09:00] <Crush`> thank you
[09:01] <Crozar> hey guys why doesnt ubuntu have right click show preview forexample * Pictures , yes sometimes ill be looking for a pic i want to preview it before have it selected.
[09:01] <riotkittie> simplechat: its never bad practice to backup the data that you love, but really if you have ubuntu installed, xp[?]  shouldnt overwrite it. unless ...  is there only a ubuntu partition?
[09:02] <riotkittie> xp wont really mess with it. <knocks on wood>
[09:02] <simplechat> riotkittie, default ubuntu install. i installed windows about halfway (it didn't like my keys, and now bluescreens on startup), then installed ubuntu the "default" way
[09:02] <simplechat> (use remaining sapce)
[09:03] <riotkittie> ok. so you should be good
[09:03] <AJ--> any updated guides for compiz-fusion?? i cant install it :(
[09:03] <riotkittie> AJ--: you may find help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:04] <tylo> hello all. could anyone help me out with a potentially newb Java question? Send me a PM if you think you can help.
[09:04] <cwe_cr_tmn> blabla
[09:05] <mtholdenss> once installed beta, is it easy to upgrade to final release?
[09:05] <c3LT1cFr05t> firefox has add-on that gives you a color picker that is only Win. for anyone who hasn't realized it, ubuntu does it anyways w/o any help.the little eyedropper color picker that is in properties to custumize the dasktop can stray off the box and picks colors perfectly anywhere even online
[09:05] <c3LT1cFr05t> sorry
[09:05] <skinhead_7115> wer hat lust bei mir in die bande zu kommen ??
[09:06] <ogenewbie> I got ubuntu, it works. yeah. I got lost irc. dittos. now for a slightly better irc - copy backscroll, logging, make PM chat. So, I go look for XCHAT. I have Feisty Fawn 7.4 and I cant find out where the universal repositories are. I dont want to compile anything. I want the install to be "normal" like lost irc, not a cli with a string of references. Where can I download XCHAT from? (please and thank you)
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> what's the file that determines what to load for a DE right after you log in from GDM?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:06] <ogenewbie> tylo. I think it is normal to ask a question and wait.
[09:07] <simplechat> hey, how would i open an external hard drive for reading and writing?
[09:07] <attackdecay> for some reason i'm missing like half of my System-Administration menu entries in gnome..  has anyone run into this, or have a solution to restore them?
[09:07] <simplechat> rather then it being a read only file system?
[09:07] <simplechat> i've installed ntfs-3g?
[09:07] <c3LT1cFr05t> ogennewbie:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  please respect the plus 4 line paste in bin
[09:07] <simplechat> but i can't find anything additionally
[09:08] <tylo> ogenewbie: i've taken my question to #java
[09:09] <ogenewbie> c3LT1cFr05, respect the plus 4 line paste in bin - (whats "in bin"?) means dont aske a long question, eh? I will look for that link.
[09:09] <c3LT1cFr05t> attackdecay:yea I saw them in my applications menu earlier but I think they went out
[09:09] <adelie> is there a tool like tsearch from windows for linux?
[09:09] <c3LT1cFr05t> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:10] <portablejim> How do I increase the refresh rate? (I have already tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and overstated what my monitor can do)
[09:10] <KenSentMe> Where can i make suggestions for the ubotu bot?
[09:11] <adelie> how do I search memory resources used by a specific process?
[09:11] <ogenewbie> The answer that sHe gave me just gave me some kind of a pastepage. I dont know what a pastepage is. I had already looked on those pages before I came here and didnt find an xchat dl page.
[09:11] <Evanlec> adelie, htop
[09:11] <riotkittie> is there a way to uniformly resize multple icons on the desktop in one shot?
[09:12] <c3LT1cFr05t> ogenewbie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is a place for us to leave larger size "explanations" of our problems to help one another
[09:12] <adelie> evanlec can that be used to change values stored in that processes memory?
[09:12] <KenSentMe> !bot
[09:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:12] <Evanlec> adelie, oh i donno about that, probly not, htop just a process viewer
[09:13] <riotkittie> i thought large explinations were ok, but the copying and pasting was not
[09:13] <adelie> hmm... thanks. sure that will get me further than I was
[09:13] <ogenewbie> small version: want xchat download for feisty
[09:13] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: you can ALT + F2 then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   ... find the universe lines and uncomment them
[09:13] <D4N`> hi
[09:14] <wado> hi everybody, could anybody tell me, what can I do for view better fonts in apps? my fonst looks ugly
[09:14] <wado> http://i20.tinypic.com/142d74y.png
[09:14] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: what ap?
[09:14] <D4N`> private
[09:14] <riotkittie> otherwise, open synaptic and try looking under the edit menu... i'm not sure if repos are on that menu or not tho
[09:14] <portablejim> !pastebin
[09:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:14] <ogenewbie> not kittie, I dont know what that means. I have been a fortran mainframe programmer and I can do many things to windows systems and use a unix shell but this is greek to me.
[09:15] <adelie> c3LT1cFr05t lookin for a program like tsearch for linux. something to search process memory to manipulate values (make game hacks)
[09:16] <riotkittie> wado: assuming you're using the GNOME Desktop, go to System menu > Preferences > Fonts
[09:16] <KenSentMe> I made a suggestion for Ubotu, using !<factoid> is <fact>, but it returns me an error. Does this mean the suggestion isn't forwarded to the ops?
[09:16] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: i think i have a bookmark pls hold
[09:16] <jussi01> KenSentMe: did you take away the <>
[09:16] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, what error ? it is moderated btw
[09:16] <jussi01> ?P?
[09:16] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: assuming you're also using GNOME, go to System > Administration. Open the synaptic package manager
[09:16] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:17] <teKnofreak> hehe..
[09:17] <jussi01> KenSentMe: ?
[09:17] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, and what did you tell it ?
[09:17] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: once Synaptic opens, go to the Settings menu, select Repositories
[09:17] <KenSentMe> jussi01, yes i did
[09:17] <KenSentMe> !gutsy is Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:18] <KenSentMe> That was my message
[09:18] <jussi01> hmmm
[09:18] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, try not using pipes |
[09:18] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, it's in the standard factoid
[09:18] <KenSentMe> !gutsy
[09:18] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <ogenewbie> sorry I do not want to alter essential parts of my system.  aer you guys witholding on me ? this is a simple url that I need for this / I am using gnome. argh. are you saying I already have xchat on my computer and dont need to download it?
[09:18] <oasis> I cant open some .pdf with xpdf,why?
[09:18] <riotkittie> wado: when you got the font thing open, select "best shape". if that alone doesnt help, click details and select either grayscale or subpixel under smoothing
[09:18] <c3LT1cFr05t> adelie: http://www.gamediscovery.com/game-design/game-design-software.asp
[09:18] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, it works.. ?
[09:19] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: didnt you say something about the repositories and enabling universe?
[09:19] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, i just added a line. And that line doesn't show yet
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[09:19] <Evanlec> ogenewbie, you'll be using synaptic package manager a lot...its pretty safe to use
[09:19] <oasis> %C9should I also install some plugins?
[09:19] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, it is moderated, so have your finger crossed
[09:19] <wado> riotkittie: thanx, but when I change the font size, only titles fonts are changing not fonts in window
[09:19] <riotkittie> yea. enabling the universe repos for a second is perfectly fine.
[09:19] <KenSentMe> teKnofreak, yeah, but if i get an error in return it doesn't give me the idea that my suggestion is forwarded
[09:20] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Ill forward it manually and get the problem addressed
[09:20] <adelie> c3LT1cFr05t hmm... any particular tool?
[09:20] <riotkittie> wado: not the font size. have you changed the rendering? shaping? hinting?
[09:20] <KenSentMe> jussi01, you are an op?
[09:20] <teKnofreak> KenSentMe, Seveas is here, poke him ;) (isn't he the one who made ubotu?)
[09:20] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Sort of... not in here though :)
[09:20] <Evanlec> i too would like to make suggestions to the bot, that bot is quite handy (but it could be even more handy)
[09:21] <KenSentMe> Seveas, ping
[09:21] <WildOS> Is there a difference between arm and x86 platforms when it comes to starting up threads in a constructor, before the main function is actually run?
[09:21] <c3LT1cFr05t> im sorry its been so long,i'm looking through it now. lets see what we both come up with
[09:21] <jussi01> KenSentMe: Ill sort it out
[09:21] <WildOS> Running debian 2.6.22
[09:21] <KenSentMe> jussi01, okay, thanks
[09:21] <WildOS> And NPTL
[09:22] <c3LT1cFr05t> TWIT just mentioned us on his tech now show
[09:22] <mtholdenss> what was said on TWIT?
[09:22] <riotkittie> TWIT? o_o
[09:22] <wado> riotkittie: all changes view only on the title bar and desktop :-(
[09:22] <axel-s> hi, I'm new to the ubuntu/debian package system... is there a way to reinstall ALL packages from command line?
[09:22] <ogenewbie> NotKatie: I said I dont know what the universe repositores are and could not find it in a search inthe ubuntu docs or in google. so I asked here.
[09:22] <riotkittie> wado: that is odd. :(
[09:23] <riotkittie> i have no idea, in that case. i am sorry :(
[09:23] <jussi01> !repos | ogenewbie
[09:23] <ubotu> ogenewbie: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:23] <c3LT1cFr05t> http://audio.rfdradio.info:8000/cni Radio stream talking ubuntu right now
[09:23] <ogenewbie> !repos
[09:23] <wado> riotkittie: i'll try restart app
[09:24] <koshari> ogenewbie the ubniverse repositorey is an additional software repository where maintainers store precompiled packages of popular software compatible with ubuntu.
[09:25] <ogenewbie> ubotu: that looks like advice I can deal with. thanks jussi01. will check it out.
[09:25] <riotkittie> ogenewbie: the universe repo is community maintained, and thus not officially supported, tho you can obtain support for packages from from the community
[09:25] <jussi01> !bot | ogenewbie
[09:25] <koshari> and  ogenewbie as evenlec mentioned earlier synaptic is the easiest place to enable the universe repository.
[09:25] <ubotu> ogenewbie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:25] <jussi01> !gutsy | KenSentMe
[09:25] <ubotu> KenSentMe: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:26] <KenSentMe> jussi01, nice, thanks
[09:26] <MoFlo> lol twit mentioned ubuntu who cares they are just rating whores and ubuntu is the easiest nix to deal with
[09:26] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can make my ubuntu look better
[09:27] <jussi01> KenSentMe:  :) np's
[09:27] <MoFlo> monster they wont tell you if it takes more than one line of instructions
[09:27] <MoFlo> these guys are all very leet
[09:27] <WildOS>  What does tis mean: gdbserver: Child terminated with signal = 5
[09:27] <WildOS> tis=this
[09:27] <c3LT1cFr05t> monster: like what ideas
[09:28] <silviu> Monter, google "gnome art" if you use Gnome
[09:28] <MoFlo> see monster it worked they are talking to y ou now
[09:28] <MoFlo> see just get a friend to jump on you
[09:28] <magnetron> !eyecandy | MoNsTeR
[09:28] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:28] <MoFlo> then they will help out of pity
[09:28] <ogenewbie> koshari: sorry but that is clear as mud. I was thinking the UR was a library. Now it is something that one can enable.  I dont know synaptic package manager and google >> definition sounded like nothing I would ever want. and WAY too low level.
[09:28] <MoFlo> typical noob chatroom tactics
[09:28] <MoFlo> now see they are not gonna help you
[09:28] <MoFlo> but now that i just said that they will
[09:28] <MoFlo> or is it because i said that they wont
[09:28] <radams976> whats up people?
[09:28] <MoFlo> now they will
[09:28] <MoFlo> now they wont
[09:28] <MoFlo> now they will
[09:29] <MoFlo> now they wont
[09:29] <MoFlo> lololololol
[09:29] <heguru> !ops | MoFlo (Troll Alert)
[09:29] <ubotu> MoFlo (Troll Alert): Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:29] <silviu> moflo, maybe you have other things to do and we're keeping you
[09:29] <ogenewbie> really smart people can make it simple. Anyone here really smart?
[09:30] <jussi01> ogenewbie: still trying to add repositories'?
[09:31] <riotkittie> yay. the mentally deficient come out at night. :|
[09:31] <koshari> ogenewbie synaptic is a graphical software installer, it is a nice way of installing packages for people who are a little intimidated by CLI.
[09:31] <tylo> my brain hurts :(
[09:32] <jodih2> hi
[09:32] <jodih2> please help me with a dumb question
[09:32] <t3318> i have trouble in customizing Ubuntu's default theme
[09:32] <ogenewbie> Jussie I was never trying to add a repository and I dont know what a repository is. I want to download and instal xchat because (I thought) it is a simple but better than lostirc irc program. I like mirc - you know, I just wanted to be able to open a pm window by myself and not have to type /msg juss01 is this the newbie channel or the confusion zone
[09:33] <riotkittie> you know. if you ask a question, and you get answers that you dislike or dont understand ...
[09:33] <aldanon> alrighty back ;)
[09:33] <nomego> what could be the problem if I get read timeouts from /dev/random ?
[09:33] <ogenewbie> notkittie, then you ask again and attempt to clarify.
[09:33] <riotkittie> following your plea for help with "really smart people cant make it simple. anybody here really smart" > in effect saying those who tried to help you are morons...
[09:34] <jodih2> i need to delete a file and cant remeber how
[09:34] <preaction> !info xchat
[09:34] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:34] <ogenewbie> not morons, just FUD
[09:34] <riotkittie> is more a less a sure fire way to insure you arent helped
[09:34] <LinAsH> jodih2, rm
[09:34] <jodih2> thanks linash
[09:34] <preaction> ogenewbie, you need to add the "Universe" repository to Synaptic. There's a menu for it even. Once "Universe" is enabled, you can search for and install xchat from Synaptic.
[09:35] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know how i can make my ubuntu look better well i wanted to make my desktop look good ill take a screen shot of what it looks like right now and you guys can tell me stuff i can do to make it look better :)
[09:35] <jussi01> ogenewbie: ok. Ill assume you are using gnome. go to synaptic package manager->manage repositories->make sure universe repositories are enabled(with teh check box). the search for xchat and click install.
[09:35] <magnetron> !eyecandy | MoNsTeR
[09:35] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:35] <preaction> !changethemes | MoNsTeR
[09:35] <ubotu> MoNsTeR: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[09:35] <AlexForster> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Ideas <- last one (button concepts)
[09:36] <ogenewbie> well I'd rather not make me wrong either. with all this energy I can just figure that somehow my asking for a download site for xchat is not an answerable question. I sure wish I ermember how I foudn a download for lostirc. It was nto a major event. I cant add something to something I dont know what it is. This is not my path. I would never have recommended this to anywone had I fount this fud before. Have a nice life.
[09:36] <riotkittie> good lord.
[09:37] <preaction> uhm... point of order: How is anything said by this support channel classified as FUD?
[09:37] <Madpilot> someone suffers from lack of clue...
[09:37] <Fallenou> lol
[09:38] <koshari> ogenewbie left the room (quit: ) one less difficult brat to have to deal with
[09:38] <riotkittie> people who throw temper tantrums because "omg!! enable a repo!! nooooo!! please pretend to be google and give me a link to a download i refuse to get from the repos!! i hate you, and i'm taking my internet and going home, so die!" ... make me want to smoke
[09:38] <MoNsTeR> all you guys do is use ubotu
[09:38] <riotkittie> ok. i was just looking for an excuse for a cigarette
[09:38] <MoNsTeR> why not actually try and help
[09:38] <aldanon> anyone here good with compiling drivers?
[09:38] <riotkittie> MoNsTeR: plenty of people type, plenty of people actually try to help
[09:38] <Madpilot> MoNsTeR, of course. The bot is the most intelligent thing in this channel. :)
[09:39] <riotkittie> but the fact of the matter is, sometimes, its easier or more appropriate to use the bot
[09:39] <MoNsTeR> does anybody know where i would put a theme i just downloaded at? its for emerald
[09:39] <preaction> MoNsTeR, because the questions 99% of people ask are better answered by tutorials and static pages. everyone asks these questions and interactive help is pointless when you can't actually see the other user's desktop
[09:39] <usr13> The linux community seems to be out of step with ogenewbie
[09:39] <aldanon> i'm trying to compile the new x-fi 64-bit driver but i'm having troubles
[09:39] <riotkittie> and granted the attitude some of those seeking help present, i cant really blame people for !commanding and wiping their hands of it sometimes
[09:39] <karmelek> hello
[09:39] <preaction> MoNsTeR, you drag and drop the archive onto the theme manager i believe
[09:40] <MoNsTeR> ok preaction
[09:40] <koshari>  MoNsTeR you can place the theme where ever you like, then browse to it with emerald
[09:40] <jussi01> !compile | aldanon
[09:40] <ubotu> aldanon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:40] <_bt> ogenewbie just needs to let jesus into his heart.
[09:40] <aldanon> ubotu: this is a beta driver just released by Creative for the X-fi sound card
[09:40] <riotkittie> and honestly - not to be mean, not to be a jerk - if you can get the information from an easy to follow guide, why shouldnt you read it?
[09:40] <Madpilot> MoNsTeR, System->Preferences->Themes, then drag your theme archive into the open Theme manager window
[09:40] <jussi01> !bot > aldanon
[09:41] <aldanon> doh hehe
[09:41] <jussi01> hehe
[09:41] <aldanon> didnt know it was a bot lmao
[09:41] <aldanon> i was getting help but i think he fell asleep!
[09:41] <aldanon> so close too hehe
[09:41] <jussi01> lol
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: what error are you getting?
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: remember to use !paste if its a big bit of text
[09:42] <aldanon> eh he had me reboot so i don't have it anymore ;/ but it had an "error2" in it
[09:42] <riotkittie> is there a way to uniformly resize multple icons on the desktop in one shot?
[09:42] <jussi01> aldanon: I need a bit more than that. can you try again?
[09:43] <usr13> aldanon: you may need "kde-devel"  ? (You have kbuntu, right?)
[09:43] <aldanon> i don't recall any of the steps he took me through - but i do know the driver is in a temp folder we created
[09:44] <usr13> riotkittie: Yes, change desktop resolution.
[09:44] <aldanon> and we were at the step of make
[09:44] <aldanon> yeah kubuntu
[09:44] <riotkittie> usr13: that'd be great, if i wanted to change my desktop resolution. i don't.
[09:44] <jussi01> aldanon: run make from that folder again
[09:44] <aldanon> usr13 is awake?! hehe
[09:45] <aldanon> i wish i knew how he got me to that folder ;)
[09:45] <usr13> Just barley
[09:45] <usr13> cd temp
[09:45] <aldanon> how can i get back to that temp folder?
[09:45] <aldanon> hmm no targets specified
[09:45] <aldanon> no makefile found
[09:45] <ipx>  ./configure
[09:45] <jussi01> aldanon: did you do 'cd temp'
[09:46] <ppg> hello all
[09:46] <usr13> and then:  cd XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04
[09:46] <aldanon> there we go
[09:46] <aldanon> can i paste this?
[09:46] <jussi01> !paste
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <aldanon> or join my chan jussi?
[09:46] <aldanon> !paste
[09:46] <NetGear> hi all
[09:46] <mtholdenss> how soon will the  bug in the partial upgrade be fixed?
[09:46] <ppg> am having serious troubles with my wireless and webcam
[09:47] <aldanon> jussi01 can you join my channel?
[09:47] <jussi01> aldanon: you are welcome to join #dib5sn
[09:47] <NetGear> how to change resolution to 1024x768
[09:47] <usr13> aldanon: You might just start over:  cd  $HOME/temp ; rm -rf XFiDrv_Linux_US-1.04
[09:47] <D4N`> hi
[09:48] <NetGear> D4N`, hi
[09:48] <ardin> ok, anyone actually know anything about video playback?
[09:48] <NetGear> how to change resolution to 1024x768
[09:48] <D4N`> good
[09:49] <NetGear> need help to edit xorg.conf
[09:49] <aldanon> thanks so much for your help so far usr13
[09:49] <dgjones> !fixres | NetGear
[09:49] <ubotu> NetGear: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:49] <aldanon> i tried starting over, but got "permission denied" when trying to use that command
[09:49] <jussi01> usr13: could you also join #dib5sn
[09:50] <ppg> anyone knows how to enable atheros ar5007eg in ubuntu???
[09:51] <ardin> for some reason, some avi files use up 100% cpu, while others dont. For Instance: Heroes avi file (ripped in HD) only makes my cpu hit about 35%. its a 350mb file. Simpsons or Family Guy make it hit 100% and they're both ripped in SD. any ideas? i'm using VLC to play them
[09:51] <ppg> anyone knows how to enable lgwebcam in ubuntu???
[09:52] <NetGear> ubotu, i have edited the xorg.conf file & restarted the machine but no effect
[09:52] <preaction> ardin, more important is what codec the avis are using.
[09:52] <NetGear> ubotu, help what to do
[09:52] <moDumass> hey yall, whats the easiest way to update my distro, without having everything go to s41t
[09:53] <moDumass> salt, haha
[09:53] <ardin> preaction, let me look
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help what to do - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <ardin> preaction: all 3 of them are using the XviD codec
[09:54] <preaction> ardin, dunno then.
[09:54] <ardin> i've filpped thru the package manager to find anything relating to codecs or video playback and i havent found anything useful
[09:54] <heguru> !ubotu > NetGear
[09:55] <NetGear> heguru, i did'nt get it ? what you said
[09:55] <ppg> help with wireless
[09:55] <heguru> NetGear: ubotu is a bot
[09:55] <Shadowfire_> evening... and early morning to you all...
[09:56] <padi> \server dal.net
[09:56] <dgjones> !offtopic | padi
[09:56] <ubotu> padi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:56] <ProN00b> why does a file move cancel if you close the target destination nautilus ?
[09:59] <mactimes> Hello experts!
[09:59] <silviu> good morning
[09:59] <frostburn> ardin, avi is only a container, different codecs are used to compress the video and audio
[10:00] <ardin> they're all using XviD and MP3
[10:00] <silviu> i'm looking for a explanation: why in 7.04 standard the mouse cursor becomes jerky and freezes during multitasking, and after i install compiz manager it doesnt do that anymore
[10:00] <mactimes> I'm used to old redhat systems and I was wondering if someone could tell me how do I change init runlevels, once there is no /etc/inittab config file.
[10:00] <porkpie> hi guy's anyone know when the clamav pkg will be updated ?
[10:00] <frostburn> ardin, some might be using different mpeg4 decoders
[10:00] <NetGear> help for  dhcp server
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, I can try to help you out with that.
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, What do you need?
[10:01] <NetGear> mactimes, i have 2 nic both with static ip
[10:01] <mactimes> NetGear, Carry on.
[10:01] <NetGear> mactimes, doth in diff network
[10:02] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me where i can get a skydome image
[10:02] <mactimes> NetGear, Ok, continue.
[10:02] <NetGear> i want to setup a dhcp server on one network or eth1
[10:02] <NetGear> mactimes, i have install dhcp3
[10:02] <mactimes> NetGear, What is the problem you're facing?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> NetGear: you need to poke around in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[10:03] <fezick> <-- stretch...
[10:03] <fezick> uits been awhile since i been irc
[10:03] <NetGear> Frogzoo, i need dhcp on only one network
[10:04] <ProN00b> ardin, i am also using vlc, i never had problems with cpu (other than the obvious speed lack problems with my 1800+ amd for hd)
[10:04] <MoNsTeR> can somebody tell me where i can get a skydome image
[10:04] <fezick> google
[10:04] <fezick> ?
[10:04] <ardin> sdfh;bghdsfhbgjasbfbnsfgkl;dgs'
[10:04] <MoNsTeR> fezick, cant tell me to go to google
[10:05] <fezick> hehe.... i cant?.... hrm... i should have read the rulls
[10:05] <ardin> ProN00b, ok, let me explain this slowly. the files i'm having problems with ARENT HD. the ones that i wasnt having problems with, ARE HD
[10:05] <n2diy> MoNsTeR: kstars?
[10:05] <mactimes> NetGear, Hold on, I have a server with that exact configuration for DHCP, let me check the parameters.  Just a sec
[10:05] <ProN00b> ardin, yes, i understood that the first time, that is why i said i never had problems like that
[10:05] <Frogzoo> MoNsTeR: -> google
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, as you can see i said i had problems with hd
[10:06] <fezick> hehe
[10:06] <ardin> and, they work on windows just fine. Slackware had  problems with it as well
[10:06] <heguru> MoNsTeR: http://www.nick.ukfsn.org/skydome/
[10:06] <MoNsTeR> Frogzoo, ive looked on google so therefor i came here so stop telling me to go to google
[10:06] <fezick> rofl
[10:06] <fezick> gawd i missed this
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, what is your cpu and more importantly graphics processor ?
[10:06] <fezick> ahhh
[10:06] <fezick> ok
[10:06] <fezick> nite nite
[10:06] <ProN00b> ardin, and where are you playing the files from ?
[10:07] <ardin> ... my hard drive
[10:07] <heguru> MoNsTeR: don't worry about the pics looking bad in firefox, when you put them in skydome they will look good
[10:07] <ProN00b> ardin, and the cpu and gpu ?
[10:07] <MoNsTeR> thanks heguru your the best
[10:08] <ardin> 1.2ghz, Geforce4MX 512 (i think)
[10:08] <ProN00b> ardin, got hardware acceleration enabled in the blob driver manager ?
[10:09] <ardin> ... blob driver manager?
[10:09] <ardin> wtf
[10:10] <magnetron> !ohmy | ardin
[10:10] <ubotu> ardin: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:10] <ardin> ... I DIDNT SWEAR
[10:10] <NetGear> i need to configure a server having 2 network on it such that dhcp will work on only one network
[10:10] <ProN00b> ardin, sorry, its "Restricted Drivers Manager"
[10:10] <AJ--> ei guys.. how can i use my webcam a4tech to work with kopete
[10:10] <heguru> mactimes: inittab is replaced with /etc/event.d in ubuntu
[10:11] <NetGear> i need to configure a server having 2 network on it such that dhcp will work on only one network and gateway the same machine
[10:11] <ardin> ProN00b, if by that, you mean am i using nvidia's x server, yes, i set that up first thing after installing
[10:11] <MoNsTeR> heguru, what about desktop caps
[10:11] <ProN00b> ardin, nvidias x server ?
[10:11] <mactimes> heguru, Thank you very much!! =)
[10:11] <heguru> MoNsTeR: you mean cube caps?
[10:11] <ProN00b> well, its just a graphics driver, not a whole x server
[10:11] <NetGear> mactimes, r u there
[10:11] <MoNsTeR> yeah
[10:11] <heguru> MoNsTeR: any image will work on them, no special images needed
[10:11] <MoNsTeR> ok kool then
[10:11] <VSpike> NetGear: Surely you just need to bind the dhcp server to a specific interface?
[10:12] <mactimes> NetGear, Yup.  Hold on, my DHCP config file is huge, it is used for several subnets (by several, I mean more than 100+), so, I'm digging into the file =)
[10:12] <ardin> how about i just go with the short answer of 'yes' ProN00b . i can play OpenGL games.
[10:13] <NetGear> i have dhcp3.conf file which works but dhcp broadcat on both nic's
[10:13] <ProN00b> ardin, i could suggest you get mplayer and play with its -vo (video output) commandline parameter to see if there are problems with only some ways of displaying or if it is a vlc problem completely; also are you on a 64bit platform ?
[10:13] <Blackgoth> NetGear: you need a dhcp config?
[10:13] <NetGear> Blackgoth, i have dhcp3.conf file which works but dhcp broadcat on both nic's
[10:13] <ardin> no 64bit, and yes, already trying that. i installed mplayer first thing too
[10:13] <Blackgoth> NetGear: just alter the /etc/init.d/dhcp file
[10:14] <Blackgoth> INTERFACES="your interface"
[10:14] <VSpike> NetGear: it's a startup option.. yeah, what Blackgoth said
[10:14] <ProN00b> ardin, mplayer has the same problem/problems ?
[10:14] <ardin> yes. all the media players have the same problem
[10:15] <ardin> mplayer, xine, vlc
[10:15] <ProN00b> ardin, well, did you try mplayers -vo option ?
[10:15] <ardin> yes, i tried it with xv and i had the same problem
[10:15] <Blackgoth> ardin: what are you trying to play?
[10:15] <ProN00b> ardin, well, try others x11, gl, gl2
[10:15] <mactimes> NetGear, Found it
[10:16] <ProN00b> ardin, also watch mplayers output, does it tell you that your machine is too slow to play the media
[10:16] <mactimes> NetGear, Get into /etc/default directory
[10:16] <Omnius> I have an nVidia GeForce 6200 and I'm trying to enable Twinview but in nvidia settings it wont allow me to choose enable, any ideas?
[10:16] <mactimes> NetGear, Edit your dhcp3-server file
[10:16] <ardin> Omnius, go to the screen that isnt on yet and then try and enable it. thats what i had to do.
[10:17] <ardin> ProN00b,  yes, which is strange, because the same machine worked fine under windows
[10:17] <mactimes> NetGear, the file should have a single line which should be
[10:17] <Blackgoth> ardin: again, what are you trying to play?
[10:17] <jodih2> how do i change mysql password
[10:17] <mactimes> NetGear, INTERFACES=eth1
[10:17] <mactimes> NetGear, Then, reboot your DHCP server
[10:17] <Omnius> ardin, nvidia settings doesn't ever see the other screen
[10:17] <mactimes> NetGear, Got it?
[10:18] <ardin> Blackgoth: Standard Definition XviD rip of The Simpsons, Season 19, Episode 2, with mp3 sound on it.
[10:18] <v3trae> hey, does anyone know for sure that the ubuntu live cd has AHCI controller support?
[10:18] <magnetron> v3trae: it has
[10:18] <v3trae> magnetron: it does?
[10:18] <ProN00b> ardin, try the other vo options, also try a null sound output or null video renderer and see if either fixes the problem
[10:19] <Blackgoth> err. and you cant play it with vlc ?
[10:19] <magnetron> v3trae: it does
[10:19] <v3trae> magnetron: thank you sir, have a wonderful evening.
[10:19] <dojo> jodih2: you have to use the mysql console tool
[10:19] <ardin> Blackgoth, yes.. why wouldnt i be able to?
[10:19] <Blackgoth> sorry, but thats kinda, strange :P
[10:19] <mactimes> NetGear, My server run in the exact situation you want yours to run.  Except my server serves 100+ subnets.
[10:19] <jodih2> dojo how do i do that
[10:20] <dojo> jodih2: you should have installe mysql-client
[10:20] <Blackgoth> mactimes: option-82 on switches ftw :)
[10:20] <Blackgoth> and dhcp snooping :D
[10:20] <mactimes> Blackgoth, ???
[10:20] <AJ--> how can i enable my compiz-fusion on startup so i wont be typing it everytime
[10:21] <NetGear> Blacgoth mactimes can Your send me the file
[10:21] <Blackgoth> mactimes: we run a 1700 person network with dhcp based on dhcp snooping and option-82 :)
[10:21] <NetGear> mactimes,  mactimes can Your send me the file
[10:21] <jodih2> dojo i never installed this box and im in trouble
[10:21] <mactimes> NetGear, Like I said:  It only contains a single line: INTERFACES=eth1
[10:21] <jodih2> got someoe here who needs the password
[10:21] <Blackgoth> like i said before that :P
[10:21] <mactimes> NetGear, Cause eth0 goes to a network where it is not serving IP's
[10:21] <heguru> jodih2: you can also install Mysql administrator if you need a good GUI for mysql administration, just use synaptic or on the terminal type: sudo apt-get install mysql-admin
[10:22] <jodih2> dojo how do i see if the client is installed
[10:22] <ardin> i might have just fixed it, we'll see
[10:22] <Blackgoth> or NetGear just use a commandline :)
[10:22] <mactimes> Blackgoth, I do manual config ^^
[10:22] <jodih2> heguru thanks
[10:22] <dojo> jodih2: also use synaptic and look for mysql-client
[10:22] <mactimes> Blackgoth, I think it is safer this way =)
[10:23] <jodih2> dojo thanks
[10:23] <mactimes> Blackgoth, It will only do what I tell it to do ^^
[10:23] <Blackgoth> mactimes: we only use the network 3 days in a row :)
[10:23] <NetGear> mactimes, it not in my .conf file do i have to add it on the first line?
[10:23] <heguru> NetGear: add it to the file /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[10:23] <mactimes> NetGear, Nope, because it is already included in the /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server script
[10:24] <Blackgoth> mactimes: http://upload.fkees.net/img/3659/switchng2004.jpg
[10:24] <Blackgoth> our network is mobile ;)
[10:24] <mactimes> Blackgoth, OMG, that is what I call a mess ^^  Have you considered using racks? ^^
[10:25] <Blackgoth> mactimes: we only use the network 3 days in a row, then we move it to another location
[10:25] <Blackgoth> it's a lanparty network rental
[10:25] <MoNsTeR> anybody wanna post a screenshot of there desktop ill take one of mine !!!
[10:25] <magnetron> Blackgoth: then use mobile racks
[10:25] <mactimes> Blackgoth, Anyways, fixing all equipment into a big rack would be more "comfortable", if you know what I mean...
[10:26] <Blackgoth> yep, but the switches are distributed over tables mactimes
[10:26] <tiger_> irc://irc.freenode.net/conky
[10:26] <t325> Hello, since the last update, I have this problem with swiftfox in ubuntu feisty 64 bits: /usr/lib/swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[10:26] <Blackgoth> so having 72 full size racks is a bit, clumbsy
[10:26] <mactimes> Blackgoth, What for?
[10:26] <Blackgoth> mactimes: for the end users, gamers
[10:27] <magnetron> t325: try epiphany, it's faster than swiftfox
[10:27] <tux_fl> is there a work-around for the dhcp bug in gutsy gibbons?
[10:27] <magnetron> !gutsy | tux_fl
[10:27] <ubotu> tux_fl: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[10:27] <mactimes> Blackgoth, So, put them inside racks.  Will be more organized, cleaner and you don't have to patch so many things all the time
[10:27] <Frogzoo> tux_fl: you're asking in the wrong place
[10:27] <t325> magnetron: does it include flash?
[10:27] <Blackgoth> mactimes: impossible :)
[10:27] <Blackgoth> http://rent-a-lan.nl/upload/images/resized/37dcf9fc3efeedcb5527dee36f625d14.jpg
[10:28] <magnetron> t325: if you install the firefox flash plugin, yes
[10:28] <Blackgoth> thats our network layout, every 24 users there is a switch
[10:28] <magnetron> Blackgoth: Dreamhack?
[10:28] <Blackgoth> magnetron: nope, drome
[10:28] <Frogzoo> Blackgoth: wild guess - 24 port switches?
[10:28] <Blackgoth> oh regroup even
[10:28] <VSpike> exit
[10:29] <Blackgoth> Frogzoo: yep, hp procurve 2624
[10:29] <t325> magnetron: ok, but in amd64 it is kind of complicated to get flash32 to work manually.. but maybe less compilcated than solving my shared libraries problem..
[10:29] <Blackgoth> and a bunch of 2824/48 and a massive 5308 core :)
[10:31] <tiger_> join #ubuntu+1
[10:32] <tiger_> hi there, conky shows 100% cpu usage all the time on my amd turion machine.However, both top and ps aux show normal cpu activities ?
[10:34] <pp> hello
[10:37] <capiira> hi all, i'm using inkscape now but its tooooooo slow. Anyone know an other decent vector application?
[10:37] <verb3k> guys if I host a CMS on my ubuntu server (drupal5) , what permissions should I give to its files?
[10:38] <mactimes> heguru, Hummm... /etc/event.d has many config files...
[10:38] <mactimes> heguru, Isn't there a config file where I can choose the default runlevel?
[10:43] (capiira/#ubuntu) 754 or 755 depends
[10:44] (verb3k/#ubuntu) I see
[10:44] (heguru/#ubuntu) mactimes: just add the file, nothing else needs to conifgured
[10:44] (mactimes/#ubuntu) heguru, Thanks!  I'll try that now
[10:49] <CommonClone> I'm trying to mount a folder on my network to a folder on my laptop, so I type sudo mount 192.168.1.2:/home/andy /Home Desktop and it tells me I'm not using the command right...did I type something wrong?
[10:52] <slimjimflim> hi. i just reinstalled my nvidia geforce4 legacy driver on feisty fawn, and now, after being down for a few days, x gives me the x windows log in, but fails to actually load my desktop.  what can i do to fix this?
[10:52] <CommonClone> I figured it out...I didnt type the onmplete path
[10:52] <berkes> somehow anacron runs its daily tasks later and later every day. I'd like to know if I can set it to run certain tasks really at midnight/01.00 etc, instead of 10.00, when I'm at full speed at work.
[10:53] <slimjimflim> ie. i have control of the mouse, and there's a background, but that's all
[10:53] <alecs> hi there
[10:54] <alecs> i can use any internet repository to solve my problems with my packages
[10:54] <alecs> ?
[10:54] <slimjimflim> alecs, there's usually repositories specific to a certain application
[10:55] <slimjimflim> check the app's site
[10:56] <bong> hi!
[10:56] <gorski> i don't hear sound from zynaddsubfx, connected to jack, somebody help?
[10:58] <berkes> alecs: though in general it is not advised to use any other repositories but the official ubuntu ones.
[10:59] <alecs> yeah ... i know but ...
[10:59] <alecs> apt-get update ... i get
[10:59] <mrbtuan> how to chat on pidgin with a paltalk account
[10:59] <exodos> Hi all, I would like to test new version of forcedeth kernel module. I have only C source code (without Makefiles). How can I compile just this one module?
[10:59] <berkes> 1) you never know if they will be upgraded with new releases 2) no guarantee that they will be maintained in future 3) very often you run into a dependency hell.
[10:59] <alecs> Euare n aducerea http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:59] <alecs> Euare n aducerea http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:59] <alecs> Euare n aducerea http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[10:59] <porkpie> guy's any one know when the clamav pkg is going to be updated ?
[11:00] <alecs> i don't
[11:00] <berkes> alecs: have a look for mirrors, at ubuntu.org. you should be able to configure apt to use another mirror.
[11:00] <mrbtuan> how to chat paltalk on ubuntu ---> www.paltalk.com
[11:01] <mrbtuan> help me :D
[11:05] <alecs> i'm being redirected to http://www.ubuntu.upc.edu/
[11:06] <alecs> is http://www.ubuntu.com/
[11:10] <bong> hi!
[11:10] <bong> want to chat?
[11:10] <bong> hi!
[11:10] <househead> hi
[11:11] <VSpike> What other sources of support are there apart from ubuntuforums and this IRC channel?
[11:11] <VSpike> Is paid canonical support the next step?
[11:11] <househead> VSpike: google?
[11:11] <stdin> VSpike: there's also the ubuntu-users mailing list
[11:12] <stdin> !mail
[11:12] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <alloy> ?
[11:12] <VSpike> househead: true, I should have listed google :)
[11:13] <VSpike> stdin: always worth a try.. thanks
[11:15] <VSpike> man, I either need a new monitor or some new eyes
[11:19] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:20] <aLeSD> could someone tell me a p2p client better than amule ? Cause it stresses too much my internet connection
[11:22] <slimjimflim> hi. i just reinstalled my nvidia geforce4 legacy driver on feisty fawn, and now, after being down for a few days, x gives me the x windows log in, but fails to actually load my desktop.  what can i do to fix this?
[11:23] <aLeSD> do u have windows effects active ?
[11:23] <tthh00> slimjimflim: you are sure this has something to do with the nvidia driver? looks more like a problem loading your gnome session
[11:27] <amagle> 
[11:27] <pavs> 
[11:29] <indraveni> hi all
[11:29] <slimjimflim> tthh00, yea, i think it's gnome, otherwise i wouldn't get any giu
[11:29] <slimjimflim> *gui
[11:29] <indraveni> i have sony vaio laptop, and projector is not working in it
[11:29] <indraveni> could some one help me here
[11:30] <tthh00> slimjimflim: try to log in on a text console (ctrl-alt-f1) and check the file .xsession-errors
[11:30] <zicke-zacke> can you speak english
[11:30] <zicke-zacke> german
[11:30] <tthh00> !de | zicke-zacke
[11:30] <ubotu> zicke-zacke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:31] <slimjimflim> tthh00, yea. there's an error, i'll pastebin it
[11:31] <slimjimflim> 1 sec
[11:32] <Lhademmor> Which iPod-like music device is the most Ubuntu-friendly?
[11:33] <VSpike> Lhademmor: the samsung I have is friendly
[11:33] <punzada> ipod works fine as far as I know.
[11:33] <iapx8088> hi all, I have an issue with my ubuntu raid1 server. It was installed using grub, swapped the disk and so on. Worked fine but sometimes it doesn't boot, or it takes a lot of time and the logs are a lof of md: array md1 already has disks!"ull of
[11:33] <pavs> funny thing happened i have a logitech webcamera and its only windows compatible to hook it up with windows 2003 and not only that it doesnt work out of the box it doesnt even work when drivers are installed from their website and I cant use it with msn live, so I hook it up to my ubuntu laptop and boom it works right out of the box with no configuration or installation and I can use it with amsn!! kool linux forever...
[11:33] <slimjimflim> tthh00, http://pastebin.ca/724084
[11:33] <iapx8088> searched some google, and just people with no clue
[11:33] <iapx8088> any idea
[11:34] <Lhademmor> VSpike: How big?
[11:34] <tthh00> slimjimflim: is that the complete file?
[11:34] <slimjimflim> tthh00, no, i left out the begining
[11:35] <tthh00> slimjimflim: looks like the shell doesn't like the syntax in one of the session scripts
[11:36] <luk1> does anyone have the same
[11:36] <luk1> problem with beryl
[11:36] <tthh00> slimjimflim: is this a clean install of feisty?
[11:37] <slimjimflim> "/etc/gdm/Xsession", right, tthh00...not quite?
[11:37] <WildOS> gdbserver returns "Child terminated with signal = 5" when I try to insert breakpoints in threads other than main. Anyone understands why?
[11:37] <tthh00> slimjimflim: maybe
[11:37] <tthh00> slimjimflim: i don't use gnome here, so i can't tell exactly
[11:37] <luk1> is anyone finding there beryl program is stuffing up
[11:38] <slimjimflim> can i switch it for kde?
[11:38] <slimjimflim> would that fix it?
[11:38] <tthh00> slimjimflim: i don't use kde either
[11:38] <koshari> luk1 whats the problem
[11:38] <tthh00> slimjimflim: i am running xfce here
[11:38] <slimjimflim> tthh00 could i use that?
[11:39] <tthh00> slimjimflim: but i do have that /etc/gdm/Xsession here
[11:39] <luk1> well everytime i go to the programs file and then to the tabs in th start button well you no what im talking about my screeen turns white and  i need to restart my pc
[11:39] <luk1> it so anoyying
[11:39] <tthh00> slimjimflim: md5sum of my /etc/gdm/Xsession is: 60f055534fa6b3a1497c92fabbfd8f63
[11:39] <luk1> so i think  it a erros with beryl
[11:40] <VSpike> Lhademmor: only a 4GB flash one .. similar to a nano
[11:40] <Lhademmor> Ah, k
[11:40] <slimjimflim> tthh00, i don't think that's it, there's no opening parenthese before line 12 anyway
[11:41] <VSpike> Lhademmor: the advantage is that it doesn't have any stupid internal database - it just acts like a flash drive and you copy files onto it
[11:41] <tthh00> slimjimflim: right, line 12 is a comment
[11:42] <tthh00> slimjimflim: another reason for not starting X session could be no space left on the filesystem
[11:43] <tthh00> slimjimflim: check with  df -h
[11:43] <slimjimflim> that's not it
[11:43] <tthh00> slimjimflim: hmm
[11:43] <titun> i just got a new monitor, how do i setup 1280x1024 resolution in Feisty?
[11:43] <titun> cuttently set to 1024x768 it looks bad
[11:44] <slimjimflim> titun, i think there's a configuration wizard in administration
[11:44] <tthh00> titun: make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then do  sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[11:44] <tthh00> *dpkg-reconfigure
[11:44] <titun> slimjimflim: the configuration wizard does not show the resolution i need
[11:44] <titun> tthh00: ok , let me try
[11:44] <joshjosh> Ok, the name of my fileserver is saturn. when i go to \\saturn, it says it's not connected to the network, but i know this is false. I can get to it through vncviewer..i think there might be a firewall set up. how can i stop it?
[11:45] <spacemadness> if you set it to AUTO DETECT that soudl work ( for resolution )
[11:46] <titun> spacemadness: no auto detect of thee monitor did not work properly
[11:48] <luckymurali_81> hi to all
[11:49] <luckymurali_81> im newbie in linux
[11:49] <luckymurali_81> i installed ubuntu
[11:49] <kimmey2k3> and?
[11:49] <luckymurali_81> now i tried to use usb pen drive
[11:50] <luckymurali_81> it saids cannot mount
[11:50] <kimmey2k3> !mount
[11:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:50] <kimmey2k3> Hm
[11:50] <luckymurali_81> how to mount it(auto matically)
[11:51] <slimjimflim> hi. i just reinstalled my nvidia geforce4 legacy driver on feisty fawn, and now, after being down for a few days, x gives me the x windows log in, but fails to actually load my desktop.  what can i do to fix this?
[11:51] <kimmey2k3> as far as i can remember it does that auto for me
[11:51] <luckymurali_81> !MOUNT AUTOMATICALLY MOUNT?
[11:51] <kimmey2k3> !usb
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <luckymurali_81> OK
[11:51] <Kaso> Can someone explain what the message im getting about avahi and .local domain on my network means? i cant google for ".local" :<
[11:51] <jisatsu> in Feisty, the email button on keyboards seems to be hardcoded to run evolution, and ignores the gnome keyboard shortcut settings. any idea how to fix that?
[11:52] <void^> Kaso: google for "zeroconf"
[11:53] <Kaso> thanks
[11:55] <ian___> I bought a new SATA harddrive to install ubuntu on.  I stuck it in my case and unplugged my windows drive.  The live CD boots just fine, I can see my drive, partition, and install.  When the install completes the PC restarts, makes it through POST, but then hangs looking for a bootable disk.  I know that I can boot from SATA drive (I do with windows) with my motherboard (MSI k8N neo NFORCE 3...
[11:55] <ian___> ...chipset, amd64 ~700 pin package..i forget.)
[11:55] <ian___> any ideas on why it hangs?
[11:55] <ian___> I did set the ubuntu drive to boot in bios.
[11:56] <kimmey2k3> try setting in the cd and choose "boot from harddrive"
[11:56] <{[rediz] }> ive got dadder drake on 1 hard drive and ubuntu studio on slave hard drive. Q. i need m$ windozs on mi box.do i need to format the slave drive to install windoze
[11:57] <luckymurali_81> THANKS TO ALL
[11:57] <ian___> ok, I'll try a boot with the cd and choose boot from harddrive, I didnt remember that options.  Thanks
[11:58] <ipx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3466933
[11:58] <minimec> {[rediz] }: You could taje your slave and give it a boot sector with SuperGrub and use it as Master and install a new MS$ on the Dapper HD as slave
[11:59] <jodih2> hi again
[11:59] <jodih2> one more question from a newbie
[11:59] <{[rediz] }> Mimmi
[11:59] <jodih2> how do i see the contents of a cd from a promt
[11:59] <magnetron> Question: how do i choose the default search engine for epiphany?
[11:59] <minimec> {[rediz] }: ... I guess you want to keep the newer Ubuntu Studio and replace Dapper with a Win install...
[12:00] <tthh00> jodih2: is it already mounted?
[12:00] <{[rediz] }> minimec: my master is 80g & slave 40g
[12:00] <magnetron> jodih2: first cd /meida
[12:00] <jodih2> i think so
[12:00] <magnetron> jodih2: first cd /media
[12:00] <magnetron> jodih2: then ls to see the different drives
[12:00] <magnetron> jodih2: then cd again
[12:01] <minimec> {[rediz] }: So what would be your favourite choice?
[12:01] <jodih2> how would i mount it
[12:01] <{[rediz] }> minimec: whats taje
[12:01] <tthh00> jodih2: the cd should automount when inserted
[12:02] <minimec> {[rediz] }: taje = take ;)
[12:02] <jodih2> it sas program first not installed
[12:03] <{[rediz] }> minimec: yeah but not shaw witch is best way to do it
[12:03] <tthh00> jodih2: first was not meant as a command
[12:04] <tthh00> jodih2: just do:  cd /media
[12:04] <jodih2> thanks guys
[12:06] <minimec> {[rediz] } To keep your UbuntuStudio as Master change the jumper on the HD to Master and use the Software SuperGrub which comes as a CD and boot your computer with it. Then you can give your UbuntuStudio HD a new Boot Sector.
[12:08] <{[rediz] }> minimec: gonna do some reading thankz for pointing me in right direction
[12:08] <jodih2> if i have a file on the cd to install how do i do it? apt starts looking at the repositories
[12:08] <minimec> {[rediz] } np
[12:09] <emeka_> I need help in visual basic
[12:09] <magnetron> !windows | emeka_
[12:09] <ubotu> emeka_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:10] <{[rediz] }> minimec: 8-)
[12:10] <slimjimflim> tthh00, i'm installing kde
[12:11] <Guest56106> if complexity is theta(n**2) then if we double the total number of data to be sorted then the approx time becomes 4times of sorting N data. but in case of theta(nlogn) what does it become ?
[12:11] <Guest56106> I mean if I i double the data from N to 2N, what is the approx time ?
[12:11] <tthh00> slimjimflim: before installing such a beast, try with fluxbox or something
[12:12] <slimjimflim> myehh, i already starte
[12:12] <slimjimflim> d
[12:13] <emeka_> I am autofill a form in ms access using vba code,con anyone help?
[12:13] <tthh00> emeka_: this is not a windows channel
[12:13] <E_mE> has anyone here every experiences problems with ODBC on ubuntu?? i seem to get lots of nice errors
[12:14] <emeka_> I have run out options on where to get help from
[12:14] <emeka_> does anyone have an idea of ms access automation
[12:15] <opexoc> Has anyone installed ubuntu on system which have GeForce 8500 GT?
[12:15] <magnetron> emeka_: maybe microsoft does? if you pay for their products, i'm sure they are happy to give you support
[12:16] <tthh00> jodih2: installing software from the repos is the preferred way. why do you want to install something from cd?
[12:16] <jodih2> i downloaded ispconfig
[12:16] <tthh00> jodih2: what's that?
[12:16] <jodih2> tthh00 and i need to now how to install it
[12:17] <tthh00> jodih2: please use the ubuntu methods for getting online and not some obscure piece of software
[12:17] <yoshx> hello
[12:18] <simplechat_> hey
[12:18] <simplechat_> i'm installing with dual boot
[12:18] <piranesi> I have a problem with samba: nautilus smb://mshome shows me nothing while nautilus smb://192.168.1.2 (the ip of a windows pc that belongs to MSHOME workgroup) shows me the shared files
[12:18] <simplechat_> should i use guided - use the largest contiguous free space?
[12:18] <neopsyche> how can i setup an apache server on my ubuntu installation that i can allow other people on my network to access but keep my files safe?
[12:18] <jodih2> tthh00
[12:19] <jodih2> tthh00 please advise best way
[12:19] <tthh00> !networking
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <tthh00> !network
[12:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:20] <jodih2> tthh00 its not a network problem its a piece of management software
[12:20] <tthh00> jodih2: oh i see
[12:20] <GreySim> Does anyone know if in Gutsy, would the minimum panel size being dependent on the application font currently set be a bug? For example, with Lucida Sans Unicode, from my ~/.fonts folder, I couldn't go below 27 on the panel size. But with Lucida Sans from the sun-java6-fonts package (I believe), I could go down to 22 or so.
[12:21] <GreySim> Or could that be intentional?
[12:21] <jodih2> tth00 how do i download from sourceforge from a command promt
[12:21] <tthh00> jodih2: use w3m, it's a text browser
[12:22] <Nighthawk420> alright everyone... iv been trying to use gtkpod and i get an error right as i load my ipod... and when i can finally add songs to it... it says there is no space left on the source when there is close to a gig left... please help
[12:22] <simplechat_> wget?
[12:22] <jodih2> thanks tthh00
[12:22] <tthh00> jodih2: press H in w3m to get help about keyboard commands
[12:22] <tthh00> jodih2: and if you already know the download URL, use wget
[12:23] <g0rd0n> how can I tell ALSA which sound card to use by default?
[12:23] <wabiD> does anyone have vista booting off a real partition with vmware
[12:24] <Nighthawk420> wabiD, i have a vista ubuntu dual boot on my dell e1505
[12:25] <wabiD> i can dual boot just fine
[12:25] <Nighthawk420> okay thats as far as i can help lol
[12:25] <heguru> wabiD: why not ask in #windows or #vmware
[12:26] <aidehua> How can I add the "Debian" menu item under Applications?
[12:26] <wabiD> well i think its a ubuntu problem, cuz it wont let me mount the partition
[12:26] <FallenHitokiri> how can I specify which effects I want to use if I select "custom effects" (gusty)
[12:26] <wabiD> the button to the right
[12:26] <heguru> wabiD: then ask your real ubuntu question :)
[12:27] <heguru> wabiD: you are trying to mount a Vista partition?
[12:27] <wabiD> yea
[12:27] <wabiD> well i can mount and access it
[12:27] <wabiD> but if i unmount it, vmware cant see it
[12:27] <assassin5> has anyone else noticed that the syntax highlighting doesn't work in vim on feisty?.
[12:27] <Nighthawk420> alright everyone... iv been trying to use gtkpod and i get an error right as i load my ipod... and when i can finally add songs to it... it says there is no space left on the source when there is close to a gig left... please help
[12:28] <FallenHitokiri> assassin5: did you install vim?
[12:28] <tthh00> assassin5: it does. just install vim, so it replaces vim-minimal.
[12:28] <FallenHitokiri> assassin5: not just the default installation you get, I mean a apt-get install vim
[12:28] <assassin5> vim-minimal?????
[12:29] <wabiD> where is grub.conf located
[12:29] <tthh00> assassin5: vim-minimal is the vim flavour installed by default in feisty. it cannot do syntax highlighting.
[12:29] <reverseblade> assassin5, by default it does not work
[12:29] <tthh00> assassin5: so apt-get install vim
[12:29] <simplechat_> hey?
[12:29] <reverseblade> assassin5, you have to write syntax on or someting like that. google it
[12:29] <simplechat_> for a dual boot
[12:29] <simplechat_> do i use largest continuous free space?
[12:30] <reverseblade> !dualboot
[12:30] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[12:30] <tthh00> assassin5: and you have to remove the comment before "syntax on" in /etc/vim/vimrc
[12:30] <assassin5> seems a little pointless to suddenly change that. I've always just had vim installed and it works.
[12:30] <zutnubu> how do i install 7.10 (beta) ubuntu without boot media?
[12:30] <reverseblade> assassin5, believe me its a simple fix
[12:30] <gorski> how to solve this: W: GPG error: http://www.texware.it feisty/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9B5EFA4BBBA3222D
[12:30] <assassin5> I know. It's not a problem.
[12:30] <ian_____________> Thanks to whomever suggested that I boot with live cd and choose boot from disk to fix my borked ubuntu install.  I got grub error 17, did a successful reinstall, and it is now booting.
[12:31] <assassin5> It just seems pointless to have a minimal install of something that's pretty minimal anyway
[12:31] <heguru> wabiD: there is no grub.conf in ubuntu, use /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:31] <tthh00> assassin5: normal vim isn't minimal anymore
[12:31] <wabiD> yea i said nvm i found it
[12:32] <zutnubu> nvm i found my answer
[12:32] <heguru> wabiD: sorry missed that
[12:32] <Stulenandi_42098> hello  check this new side  http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7360955
[12:32] <tthh00> assassin5: at least when compared to other vi clones
[12:32] <Stulenandi_42098> hello  check this new side  http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7360955
[12:32] <wabiD> can i tell grub to show the menu every time so i dont need to press escape
[12:32] <wabiD> but still time out after 5 seconds
[12:32] <Stulenandi_42098> hello  check this new side  http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7360955
[12:32] <tomaw> Stulenandi_42098: do not spam those urls
[12:32] <tthh00> Stulenandi_42098: do't do that
[12:33] <heguru> wabiD: comment out hiddenmenu option
[12:33] <wabiD> baller thanks
[12:34] <olga> hi
[12:34] <hollandlucas> hi
[12:34] <olga> how to use alsaconf on ubuntu?
[12:34] <g0rd0n> how can I tell ALSA which sound card to use by default?
[12:34] <hollandlucas> you usually don't need to use it
[12:34] <openjoel> HI, I have a macbook, and I want to dualboot with ubuntu and osx. Anything I should think about?
[12:34] <hollandlucas> udev should detect your audio card just fine
[12:34] <hollandlucas> otherwise: alsactl I think
[12:34] <g0rd0n> i keep hearing sounds from my USB phone, but i want alsa to use my onboard sound card...
[12:35] <Nighthawk420> goddd  i want to get my ipod workin on here....
[12:35] <Nighthawk420> how can i get something into my usr/lib/ folder in the term
[12:36] <gnudoc> can i ask a gnupg question here?
[12:36] <FallenHitokiri> Nighthawk420: cp?
[12:36] <minimec> olga: I think alsaconf has been removed in feisty
[12:36] <hollandlucas> but surely you must be able to install it
[12:36] <olga> minimec, true
[12:36] <olga> minimec, and I need to use it
[12:37] <hollandlucas> must be part of a package
[12:37] <minimec> olga: What do you want to do?
[12:37] <olga> minimec, force alsa to support microphone
[12:37] <gnudoc> i've made a revocation certificate for my gpg public key, how do i get that onto keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[12:37] <minimec> g0rd0n: Try gstreamer-properties
[12:37] <minimec> olga: Try gstreamer-properties
[12:39] <olga> minimec, same - no sound from mic
[12:39] <mmc> is there any tool which shows apt priorities (for all available version of a package)?
[12:39] <olga> minimec, I thought that it's wrong kernel driver
[12:39] <WildOS> Is there a problem with multithreaded debug in gdbserver 6.5?
[12:39] <minimec> olga: But the device is visible in gstreamer-properties?
[12:40] <olga> minimec, ubuntu uses snd_intel and i want to use snd_intel8x0
[12:40] <olga> but don'y know how to do this on ubuntu
[12:40] <minimec> olga: But is snd_intel8x0 visible in gstreamer-properties?
[12:40] <ikonia> mmc: what do you mean by priorities
[12:41] <olga> minimec, it loads only snd_hda_intel kernel module
[12:41] <olga> which probably doesn't work properly
[12:42] <Lax> anyone know how to set the rights on a SDcard with root as owner?
[12:42] <ikonia> Lax chown
[12:42] <Convert> hello
[12:42] <minimec> olga: So the driver is not loaded.... What kind of device is that? Is it something like a usb webcam with integrated soundcard (mic)?
[12:43] <olga> minimec, Intel ICH7 sound card in HP nx7400 notebook
[12:43] <Convert> how could i make the connections run by a user to be only seen by that user and no other user that is logged to the machine ?
[12:43] <linux4me> how do i add kernel support for ipvs? i'm running ubuntu fiesty. i ran "sudo apt-get install ipvsadm and it says the kernel does not support IPVS
[12:43] <ikonia> Convert define connections ?
[12:44] <minimec> olga: Hmmm... That shouldn't be a problem...
[12:44] <Convert> ohh, s/connections/processes/
[12:44] <Lax> chown: changing ownership of `sandiskSD': Read-only file system
[12:44] <Convert> :)
[12:44] <Convert> sorry
[12:44] <ikonia> linux4me you need ip vritualisation support (I think thats the option name) its by iptables
[12:44] <olga> minimec, but is - on WinXP it works great
[12:44] <minimec> olga: Should work on Linux too.
[12:44] <ikonia> Convert you can't really, limit the use of things like ps, or use chroot, both are weak options.
[12:44] <ikonia> Convert: why do you not want people to see processes running
[12:45] <olga> minimec, I want to use sn_intel8x0 which works on my toshiba with gentoo
[12:45] <Convert> ikonia, because i wouldn't want them to kill the processes or stuff like that
[12:45] <olga> minimec, but i don't have any idea how to do it without alsaconf
[12:45] <ikonia> Convert they can't kill processes unless they own them
[12:45] <bullgard4> Evince displays a document upside down. How can I change this to normal?
[12:45] <minimec> olga: So if you blacklisted the driver you don't want to load?
[12:46] <blizzkid> lo all. Anyone experienced with qemu and windows xp?
[12:46] <Convert> ok ikonia, thank you
[12:47] <linux4me> ikonia - i have iptables support but ipvsadm say that my kernel does not support ivps.
[12:47] <Lax> i cant change owner because it is a read-only file system
[12:48] <ikonia> linux4me: hang on, I'll see if I can find the option. As its not only the kernel, but your daemon controller (keepalived for example) that needs support
[12:48] <minimec> olga: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214301
[12:48] <ikonia> Lax 1.) if its fat32 you can't set permissions 2.) moount it read-write, rather then read only
[12:50] <bmt2> if i am trying to add the wine apt repository to my sources.list...am i putting this in the list : ' eget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add- '
[12:50] <bmt2> eget = wget
[12:51] <ikonia> bmt2 thats wrong
[12:51] <ikonia> bmt2 you don't put commands int he list
[12:51] <bmt2> or am i putting this in the list : ' sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list '
[12:51] <ikonia> bmt2 neither
[12:51] <ikonia> bmt2 you ust put the repo location in the list, look at the others for examples
[12:52] <ikonia> bmt2 you don't put commands i the list
[12:52] <ikonia> linux4me: just going through the kernel options
[12:52] <linux4me> ikonia - tks, what ubuntu are you using and do you use lvs?
[12:52] <bmt2> ikonia: i knew something was wrong because it didn't look like the other....but i am using this URL as reference : http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:52] <ikonia> linux4me I'm not using lvs on ubuntu at the moment
[12:52] <Techtronic> hey any one able to help me with an ndiswrapper poblem
[12:53] <heguru> bmt2: this would add wine repository: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[12:53] <Techtronic> would pay to have some one help me
[12:54] <bmt2> heguru: am i doing that from a cli or actually put that line in the list ?
[12:54] <ikonia> Techtronic canonical.com does pay for suport
[12:54] <heguru> bmt2: run this from the cli
[12:54] <Techtronic> cheers
[12:54] <bmt2> heguru: and then i assume put the other line in the actual sources.list
[12:54] <linux4me> anyone here use lvs-dr on ubuntu fiesty?
[12:54] <Apsu> Allo
[12:54] <heguru> bmt2: no need
[12:54] <ikonia> linux4me I'm getting your options now
[12:54] <bmt2> heguru: thanks...let me  try that
[12:55] <spacemadness> Techtronic I wll help you
[12:55] <Techtronic> thanks spacemadness
[12:56] <Lax> ikonia: how do i mount read/write. its ntfs i believe
[12:57] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g >Lax
[12:57] <petru> hello! after installig xgl drivers, and runnin gxgl session, icons for shutdown and restart computer are missing. waht to do to get them back?
[12:57] <spacemadness> lax: goto Add/remove programs.. choose Show all avail packages.. and goto Systools section.. select NTFS support package and install
[12:57] <g0rd0n> minimec: gstreamer-properties works, i hear sound from my soundcard...
[12:57] <deezid> petru: do you really need to use XGL?
[12:57] <Apsu> How to make Kanjis with ubuntu? (I'm Japanese so excuse my poor language)
[12:57] <g0rd0n> but for example flash plugin in firefox or amarok still play on the freakin usb phone
[12:58] <minimec> g0rd0n: Happy to hear that ;)
[12:58] <Techtronic> when i use ndiswrapper -l it shows as the wlan card is there however when i do a iwconfig it does not show as wlan0
[12:58] <petru> deezid, is the only way i manage to enable desktop effect on my x1300 ati radeon
[12:58] <deezid> ahh, ok
[12:58] <simplechat_> hey
[12:58] <petru> deezid, any solution 4 my problem/
[12:58] <g0rd0n> minimec: but for example flash plugin in firefox or amarok still play on the freakin usb phone
[12:59] <bmt2> after doing a apt-get update i got a GPG error: for the ' http://wine.budgetdedicated.com fiesty Release '
[12:59] <simplechat_> i just ran through ubuntu install, and now windows is bluescreening on start
[12:59] <deezid> petru: it seems that you used the startupscript instead of the modified gdm.conf
[12:59] <ikonia> simplechat_ most common cause is the need for a chkdisk and defrag on the windows disk
[12:59] <bmt2> after doing a apt-get update i got a GPG error: for the ' http://wine.budgetdedicated.com fiesty Release '
[12:59] <simplechat_> i defragged before starting
[12:59] <simplechat_> do i need to run chkdisk
[01:00] <deezid> petro: another solution to the problem might be to wait 1 or 2 weeks until the new fglrx driver with AIGLX support is released :)
[01:00] <heguru> bmt2: run this: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add-
[01:00] <Techtronic> perru: try here i used it 10 mins ago for my dell laptop with xpress 1100 card and it worked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399643
[01:00] <minimec> g0rd0n: Looks that these programs don't use the gstreamer framework.
[01:00] <usermatias> hol
[01:00] <usermatias> a
[01:00] <usermatias> ello
[01:00] <Techtronic> spacemadness - you there
[01:00] <deezid> petru: then you don't need XGL anymore
[01:01] <simplechat_> ikonia: do i need to run up the normal winxp recovery cd?
[01:01] <simplechat_> or what?
[01:01] <simplechat_> ok
[01:01] <deezid> one question: is there a compiz developer channel on this server?
[01:01] <simplechat_> it said that 0.1% were non-contiguous from ubuntu
[01:01] <simplechat_> and that there were errors on the root partition
[01:01] <simplechat_> does that mean that ubuntu set up its partition too large?
[01:01] <simplechat_> or what?
[01:01] <petru> deezid, i used this: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl; #!/bin/sh
[01:01] <petru> Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer &
[01:01] <petru> DISPLAY=:1
[01:01] <petru> dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session; sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh; [Desktop Entry] 
[01:01] <petru> Encoding=UTF-8
[01:01] <petru> Name=Xgl
[01:01] <petru> Comment=Start an Xgl Session
[01:01] <petru> Exec=/usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[01:02] <petru> Icon=
[01:02] <petru> Type=Application
[01:02] <heguru> !pastebin | petru
[01:02] <ubotu> petru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:02] <Apsu> wakarimashita... I go choose an other distribution ^^ Sayonara mina-san
[01:02] <simplechat_> anyone?
[01:02] <deezid> petru: yeah. this is the script which causes your problem
[01:02] <petru> heguru, sorry about that
[01:02] <nomad111> hi all
[01:02] <petru> deezid, what to do/
[01:02] <nomad111> how do i get extended display over two screens in ubuntu
[01:03] <simplechat_> google isn't helping
[01:03] <nomad111> i mean to say 1 + 1
[01:03] <civixier> okay, here's the thing. I got myself an extern hard drive, 20 gb, that I thought I would have for Linux. I got kubuntu and installed it into the disk, but when I rebooted everything just halts with the message Error 17. 'Grub Loading stage1.5' 'Grub loading, please wait' 'Error 17'
[01:03] <deezid> petru: look how to remove the startup script
[01:03] <simplechat_> please help?
[01:04] <deezid> petru: then you have to modify your gdm.conf
[01:04] <petru> deezid, but then is bye bye to eye candy....
[01:04] <civixier> and this grub (i guess its the boot menu) has installed itself to my other drive, where i have XP installed. so for now, all I have that works is this live CD...
[01:04] <deezid> petru: nope
[01:05] <petru> deezid, i think ill stick with the terminal sudo shutdown -h now
[01:05] <heguru> petry: you have to add two lines to your startxgl.sh for restart/shutdown buttons
[01:05] <emeka__> what chatroom do I go to find help about ms access
[01:05] <deezid> petru: just search for a gdm.conf XGL howto
[01:05] <petru> deezi, thanks!
[01:05] <deezid> pertu: no problem
[01:05] <Crozar> guys is theyr daemon-tools for linux?
[01:05] <simplechat_> you mount iso's through a loopback
[01:05] <simplechat_> thats all i know
[01:05] <bmt2> if i had wine already installed (older version) and i do a apt-get install on the newer version should it not replace the old version ?
[01:06] <Crozar> simplechat_: llooppback?
[01:06] <simplechat_> loopback
[01:06] <AJ--> how can i transfer a file from my home foloder to my grub folder??
[01:06] <Crozar> simplechat_: whats that? terminal command stuff?
[01:06] <simplechat_> kinda
[01:06] <simplechat_> there should be a gui for it
[01:06] <Crozar> simplechat_: i know but you think this will attract people to convert from Windows to Linux?
[01:07] <jodih2> how do i search for file on ubuntu
[01:07] <erUSUL> AJ--: sudo cp /home/user/file /boot/grub/
[01:07] <simplechat_> Crozar, i think having ubuntu much easier to use then windows will help
[01:07] <Crozar> simplechat_: any Kde format eyecandy use of equipment?
[01:07] <AJ--> tnx erUSUL
[01:07] <jodih2> i downloaded a file and dont know where it is
[01:07] <erUSUL> jodih2: there are a few alternatsive locate, find, and if it is in you home folder Places>Search
[01:08] <tifine> is there any java server online ?
[01:08] <simplechat_> hey?
[01:08] <kyja> omg !!! how can ubuntu that was on a 22 gig partition take up 44 gigs on a 93 gig partition. talk about bad !
[01:08] <Crozar> simplechat_: nevermind your in the linux head while others cant consume time for computers , computers are just computers they do the work we must know how to ez touch an go with the flow but not learn the expertiese to go faster and live upon control heh. i know its worth it if your an IT professor or computer engineer
[01:08] <tifine> if somebody can tell me how to convert .bat to .jar file ?
[01:09] <simplechat_> Crozar: i've spent most of today trying to get windows to work
[01:09] <simplechat_> getting ubuntu to work takes maybe 15 minutes
[01:09] <simplechat_> windows is an incredible bitch
[01:09] <simplechat_> once ubuntu comes preinstalled with the majority, it will own windows
[01:10] <trogdor> what is that nice apt-get command to remove unneeded packages that are no longer required?
[01:10] <Crozar> simplechat_: see waht i mean tifine asked how to convert .bat to .jar now you will tell them to type this and this in terminal whe're in windows u right click rename and it goes . here in linux u cant bypass unless the program isprogramed to a scripture where when doing that it bypasses and give syou the alert if pass is needed ect..
[01:10] <kyja> what should I do. its like 22 gigs of unusable space
[01:11] <simplechat_> Crozar, you can also rename in nautilus
[01:11] <simplechat_> and you can click rename
[01:11] <simplechat_> and it works
[01:11] <simplechat_> You also have a hell of a lot more tools then you can ever think of
[01:11] <Crozar> kyja: you can use a program like partition magic for windows and you can take that space away and then install partition magic for windows and set it for windows
[01:11] <simplechat_> free security updates, all the software you can think of, no viruses and its all done
[01:11] <simplechat_> have a look at gparted
[01:11] <Crozar> simplechat_: then is theyr a ready ubuntu version which has all this? is it kubuntu?
[01:12] <simplechat_> just normal ubuntu is fine
[01:12] <simplechat_> from what i've seen
[01:12] <simplechat_> it has  few problems, but its newish
[01:12] <kyja> bluck. no I just moved a 22 gig ubuntu onto a 93 gig partition and it is now 44 gigs !! thats the trouble
[01:12] <Crozar> simplechat_: actually im on UbuntU with KDE installed but i dont see all this ? so kubuntu kde is diffrent then then one i got ? supposely the kubuntu kde can write .
[01:12] <Crozar> simplechat_: then i guess that might be true.
[01:12] <simplechat_> kubuntu uses kde
[01:12] <timonator> there is a seperate channel for the beta version of ubuntu, right?
[01:12] <simplechat_> you should isntall ubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <simplechat_> and use ubuntu
[01:12] <simplechat_> ubuntu+1
[01:12] <simplechat_> is the other chan
[01:13] <timonator> thanks
[01:13] <gerst_> hi
[01:13] <trogdor> timonator: ubuntu+1 is the channel
[01:13] <Crozar> no its #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <gerst_> please help me out.. I was messing around with compiz and now I`m stuck with this error message ..  http://pastebin.com/m6f5c2cc3
[01:13] <Crozar> i cant believe im speaking to a newcommer to a topic which emerges hes qualifications
[01:13] <gerst_> apt-get -f install didnt help me
[01:14] <gerst_> and now I cant install anything
[01:14] <Crozar> gerst_: what do you want to install
[01:14] <gerst_> I just tried for example xchat
[01:14] <Crozar> gerst_: use sudo apt-get install
[01:14] <Crozar> gerst_: sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:15] <gerst_> thats ok
[01:15] <gerst_> i got  Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:15] <rilak> greetings everyone
[01:15] <gerst_> but its not working
[01:15] <Crozar> sudo apt-get autoremove xchat              ( is to completely remove it with its lib's )
[01:16] <gorski> i run jack with a real time kernel and i get this: cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1210054976, from thread -1210054976]  (1: Operation not permitted)
[01:16] <gorski> cannot create engine
[01:16] <rilak> I'd have a question for someone who is intimately acquainted with the networking stack in Ubuntu 7.4
[01:16] <Crozar> rilak: shoot
[01:16] <trogdor> Crozar: no you mean apt-get remove --purge xchat right?
[01:16] <Crozar> trogdor: i use autoremove
[01:16] <gerst_> but I got broken dependecies with compiz
[01:16] <IdleOne> gerst_: use sudo
[01:17] <gerst_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:17] <gerst_>   compiz-gnome: Depends: compiz-gtk (= 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13) but it is not going to be installed
[01:17] <gerst_>   desktop-effects: Depends: compiz but it is not going to be installed
[01:17] <trogdor> Crozar: most of what xchat uses is used by other apps though, I'm going to start using autoremove myself too
[01:17] <Crozar> gerst_: broken dependensies? because ? you updated to gutsy? or whats the reason tell me and i can clarify more.
[01:17] <visual> Hello every one
[01:17] <t720807> HELLO
[01:17] <rilak> here's the deal: I have two configurations in network-admin; "Roaming" where eth0 is set to DHCP and "Home" where I use my static IP address.
[01:17] <gerst_> the owner is not here of the computer I dont know what he did before
[01:17] <Crozar> trogdor: i use autoremove and my life is going great lo
[01:17] <gerst_> i just got these errors
[01:17] <Crozar> rilak: go on
[01:17] <gerst_> and I cant fix them
[01:18] <Crozar> gerst_: what version of ubuntu you got?
[01:18] <rilak> When I return home from work, my laptop is set to "Roaming".  No big deal, I switch to "Home" via NetworkManager's applet interface.
[01:18] <rilak> Then my connection dies after a random number of seconds.
[01:18] <Crozar> rilak: whats the problem , ?
[01:18] <gerst_> 7.04
[01:18] <rilak> Everything shows up fine.
[01:18] <Crozar> rilak: no internet connection?
[01:18] <Crozar> rilak: your firefox doesnt connect?
[01:18] <rilak> IP is set to static one, mii-diag shows everything is working, but no data goes through.
[01:19] <rilak> When I switch back to DHCP, it starts again.
[01:19] <Crozar> gerst_: il give you a script where you can get back all the dependencies of compiz
[01:19] <gerst_> thx
[01:19] <rilak> but I wasn't able to set the static IP by any means once after my laptop starts with a DHCP address.
[01:19] <kyja> ok ! here is the deal... properties of drive state 23.2 GB used 45.3 GB free total capacity 68.5 ... however it is a 100 GB drive and gnome partition editor states the partition is 93.8 GB with 44 GB used on surface. ummmm ???????
[01:19] <Crozar> rilak: you mean you cant use internet no data received only the data is being sent
[01:19] <mortz> can some1 please tellme how to change the screen resolution to 1024*768 when the option isnt in the list
[01:19] <rilak> nothing is being neither sent neither received, to the best of my knowledge.
[01:20] <rilak> I've tried disabling avahi daemon, didn't help
[01:20] <simplechat_> mortz, google for the x configuration file
[01:20] <rilak> it wasn't the culprit
[01:20] <trogdor> kyja: does it have a swap partition? What file system?
[01:20] <simplechat_> you need to edit it with gksudo gedit /ect/x11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <simplechat_> and add a new screen resolution
[01:20] <simplechat_> but back it up first
[01:20] <Crozar> mortz: you must edit xorg.confg file type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <kyja> YES thats why its only 98 instead of 99
[01:20] <simplechat_> not sudo
[01:20] <simplechat_> Crozar, gksudo
[01:20] <kyja> ext3
[01:21] <simplechat_> kyja, what is your problem?
[01:21] <rilak> so my question is then: where can I start to tinker in order to diagnose my network problem?  I'm not all too well familiar with networking.
[01:21] <kyja> is there like 20 GB of ram disks? this might be my missing m20 GB
[01:21] <Crozar> rilak:
[01:21] <trogdor> rilak: test if you can ping, make sure something is in /etc/resolve.conf, ifconfig gives info, try ifdown and ifup for your connection. apt-get remove avahi-daemon
[01:21] <visual> do any one know where I can find a deb of aptana
[01:21] <rilak> trogdor: nope, yes, yes, doesn't work
[01:21] <gerst_> I`ll be back in a 30 minutes.. please send me the script in private...thanks
[01:21] <rilak> trogdor: I disable avahi-daemon by hand: /etc/init.d/avahi stop
[01:21] <trogdor> rilak: tried a different cord?
[01:22] <rilak> this behavior is consistent across cords ^^
[01:22] <kyja> I moved ubuntu off a 20 GB partition to a 98 GB partition and gnome part editor reports its 44 GB in size now
[01:22] <simplechat_> kyja, no, you won't get 20 gigs of ramdisk unless you have 40 gigs of ram
[01:22] <rilak> I have some info
[01:22] <Crozar> rilak: i want you to type something in terminal type this dig www.google.com
[01:22] <simplechat_> kyja, reinstall
[01:22] <rilak> IP is fine; mii-diag says everything works
[01:22] <kyja> :( yeah perhaps I will have to
[01:22] <trogdor> rilak: its worked before though right?
[01:22] <rilak> yes crozar?
[01:22] <Crozar> rilak: type dig www.google.com in terminal
[01:22] <rilak> trogdor, I think this started to happen at some point, I'm not quite sure
[01:23] <rilak> Crozar: I'm digging it, so?
[01:23] <rilak> Crozar: I am on DHCP right now though
[01:23] <trogdor> rilak: anything on dmesg? is your card claimed on lshw?
[01:23] <Crozar> just tell me
[01:23] <rilak> trogdor: I tail -f my syslog at the time when my connection stops working -- NOTHING there
[01:23] <Crozar> rilak: after typing in terminal dig www.google.com what came up?
[01:23] <rilak> my card is alright
[01:24] <Crozar> rilak: pay attention you here for support not for conversation
[01:24] <rilak> Crozar: I got regular dig output, what would you like to know?
[01:24] <rilak> Crozar, thank you for your support, but I think you're missing the point here:  I am talking from my laptop which is configured via DHCP at this time.
[01:24] <Crozar> rilak: type wget www.google.com
[01:24] <rilak> Crozar, there is no need to.
[01:25] <rilak> I am connected.
[01:25] <trogdor> rilak: so its working now?
[01:25] <Crozar> rilak: you are connected but does your firefox work?
[01:25] <rilak> Crozar: everything works now
[01:25] <Crozar> rilak: then suddenly everything doesnt work?
[01:25] <rilak> Crozar: my question is about the behavior I get when I switch to static IP
[01:25] <trogdor> rilak: probably your router, I had some trouble with mine
[01:26] <rilak> Crozar: actually, I wanted someone to give me a quick list of points where things might go a-breaking
[01:26] <Crozar> rilak: through my opinion its maybe a bug which comes from externally , ur using modem ? router?
[01:26] <rilak> trogdor: actually it works with Windows quite well, and I've changed routers in the meantine
[01:26] <trogdor> Crozar: router obviously if he is setting up a static route
[01:26] <rilak> Crozar: ADSL modem + router, both work fine with Windows and won't complain no matter how often I switch from static to dynamic I{
[01:27] <rilak> and I've since changed my router too
[01:27] <Crozar> rilak: in linux its diffrent
[01:27] <rilak> here's what I've tried: tail -f /var/log/syslog: no message at the moment when things stop working; mii-diag says link is OK; ifconfig says my IP is good.
[01:27] <rilak> What else should I try?
[01:28] <Crozar> trogdor: actually this bug is known =) it conflicts with dns bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/81057
[01:28] <trogdor> rilak: trying using wireshark for a while plugged into your router offline, log any oddities
[01:28] <trogdor> rilak if all else fails that is
[01:29] <Saelynh> salut !
[01:29] <trekkme> how do i figure out which of the /dev/tty devices is my ibm ps2 keyboard?
[01:29] <IdleOne> !fr | Saelynh Bonjour
[01:29] <ubotu> Saelynh Bonjour: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:29] <simplechat_> Saelynh, Bonjour, parle voux francaise?
[01:29] <Crozar> rilak: in some routers modems they act strange , until then we cant tell you what to do but you can lock your state of connection to the router same thing you do for the router
[01:30] <trogdor> Crozar: ah yeah I had some settings on my router that didn't work with adsl, I put some opensource firmware on it while back
[01:30] <punzada> Has anyone ever experienced the problem with firefox where when you click to download something, the save file/open file dialog appears but after you choose to save file nothing happens? I even check by opening the downloads window manually and nothing is there
[01:30] <vmlinuz`> whats a good program to get data back from an ntfs hard-drive?
[01:30] <vmlinuz`> for windows i know "getdataback" but whats for linux
[01:30] <vmlinuz`> I kind of lost the files of my external hdd.
[01:30] <trogdor> punzada: means it auto removed the "this was downloaded" message and its on your desktop most likely
[01:31] <punzada> nope, it's not even starting the download
[01:31] <Crozar> rilak: ?? google it =)
[01:31] <Saelynh> hooops sorry xD I was on the wrong channel
[01:31] <Saelynh> my apologies
[01:31] <IdleOne> Saelynh: np
[01:31] <Saelynh> simplechat_: yes :)
[01:32] <darkchr0n0s> frenchh
[01:32] <darkchr0n0s> !ubuntu
[01:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:32] <simplechat_> Sealyn, je parle un peu francaise et anglaise :)
[01:32] <jodih2> hi again
[01:32] <Crozar> and i know 8 languages
[01:32] <IdleOne> simplechat_: please speak english only here and stay on topic
[01:32] <darkchr0n0s> how much ram i need to host a ftp server, with say 10 ppl accessing at the same time over 100mbps ethernet
[01:32] <jodih2> i asked earlier about changing mysql password
[01:33] <jodih2> how do i do that
[01:33] <penguincentral_> !offtopic | Crozar
[01:33] <ubotu> Crozar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:33] <simplechat_> Cronzar, join offtopic?
[01:33] <bmt2> for anyone that can help : i have updated wine to 0.9.46....and have installed flash mx 2004....now it won't run !
[01:33] <Crozar> no i rather stick with the father of linux =)
[01:33] <bmt2> any thougts ?
[01:33] <IdleOne> bmt2: #winehq can help
[01:34] <bmt2> IdleOne: i was there..there is no one over there to help me...
[01:34] <punzada> yeah
[01:34] <mortz> mortz again i just googled it and looked at the forums and what was there didnt work can any1 help me in real time
[01:34] <darkchr0n0s> how much ram i need to host a ftp server, with say 10 ppl accessing at the same time over 100mbps ethernet
[01:34] <punzada> firefox is saving my files as 0 bytes
[01:34] <punzada> not even really initializing the download
[01:35] <IdleOne> mortz: what did you google?
[01:35] <Furionn> Hello, my hdd are 3 parts, when im installin ubuntu, i want to choose partitions manually, so i can choose one which is exactly empty but when i go there it shows as media/hdb1 media/hdb5 etc but my hdds arent named as that, how can i choose the right one?
[01:35] <kyja> how do you get fschk to do a check before the number of restarts are expired?
[01:35] <peter77> I'm trying to re-theme ubuntu blue, I have changed the background and login colors blue but I'm still getting a beige background during the splash
[01:35] <simplechat_> what keywords should i google for the "correct" way to partition a ubuntu setup on a dualbooting disk?
[01:35] <peter77> how do I change that background to blue?
[01:35] <IdleOne> !usplash | peter77
[01:35] <ubotu> peter77: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:36] <mortz> googled for gosh i cant rememba ... acer 230 xorg config and then i follwed what was in the forums
[01:36] <IdleOne> !dualboot | simplechat_
[01:36] <ubotu> simplechat_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[01:36] <peter77> not the boot splash the gnome splash
[01:37] <jrib> peter77: system -> admin -> login window
[01:37] <simplechat_> IdleOne, read that?
[01:37] <peter77> tried that still getting the beige inbetween
[01:37] <IdleOne> mortz: listen as good as alot of the ppl in here are wuith tech support they are not mind readers. state your issue with all rtelevant info in 1 line please and be patient
[01:38] <IdleOne> simplechat_: read it if you want to :/
[01:38] <yowshi> if anyone is up does anyone know how to copy the files of a playlist into a usb device quickly
[01:38] <yowshi> instead of manually selecting each filer
[01:38] <jrib> peter77: you changed "background color"?
[01:38] <simplechat_> IdleOne, no, i have read it
[01:38] <Furionn> Hello, my hdd are 3 parts, when im installin ubuntu, i want to choose partitions manually, so i can choose one which is exactly empty but when i go there it shows as media/hdb1 media/hdb5 etc but my hdds arent named as that, how can i choose the right one?
[01:38] <IdleOne> simplechat_: oh I see didnt help?
[01:38] <simplechat_> and i think i've found a bug in ubuntu
[01:39] <mortz> i have an acer travelmate230 that is stuck in 840*640...can i change it to 1024*768.. i can reach that res in xp
[01:39] <simplechat_> not overly
[01:39] <simplechat_> IdleOne, i think ubuntu is being overly optimistic with the amount of free contiguous space it has, and is overwriting windows
[01:39] <IdleOne> !fixres | mortz
[01:39] <ubotu> mortz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:39] <darkchr0n0s> how much ram i need to host a ftp server, with say 10 ppl accessing at the same time over 100mbps ethernet
[01:39] <simplechat_> and thats what i've been trying for ages
[01:39] <simplechat_> 16meg?
[01:40] <IdleOne> darkchr0n0s: the more ram you have the better.
[01:40] <linux4me> how do i install a new kernel?
[01:40] <rila1> new developments: my eth0 interface dies even when on DHCP
[01:40] <simplechat_> darkchr0n0s, run it without X, and run commonly used files from a ramdrive, and your set.
[01:40] <Pici> !kernel | linux4me
[01:40] <ubotu> linux4me: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:40] <rila1> just happened
[01:40] <simplechat_> a gig, two should be fine
[01:40] <kyja> Furionn, hello ! the hdbx are device names you. the x is what partition number they are on drive. say you have 2 real drives. one would be hda and the other hdb and there partitions would be the same with a number array. so the manual partition editor can help you decide by choosing a partition that is the size you want and blank. yellow color inside a partition is data.
[01:40] <darkchr0n0s> simplechat_ : is there a way to set files to be accessed from ramdrive ?
[01:41] <yowshi> how do i quickly transfer the files of a playlist onto a usb device
[01:41] <rila1> trogdor, I'm sorry, did you mention anything else related to my case after wireshark?  That's when my interface died on me again
[01:41] <Tomcat_> yowshi: Drag & drop?
[01:41] <yowshi> drag and drop will onyl drop the playlist
[01:41] <yowshi> not the files
[01:41] <yowshi> i would loike the files in my mp3 player
[01:41] <simplechat_> darkchr0n0s, shove the files in /dev/shm
[01:41] <simplechat_> iirc
[01:41] <yowshi> and i would rather not drag and drop all 200+ of them
[01:41] <simplechat_> i'd symlink it to /ram if i was you
[01:41] <yowshi> scattered in various folders
[01:42] <Tomcat_> yowshi: Then select the songs in the playlist and drag & drop those... :)
[01:42] <Tomcat_> yowshi: Works for me.
[01:42] <simplechat_> darkchr0n0s, i would write a cronjob, find the fastest X and shove them in the ramdrive until its full.
[01:42] <mortz> can someone please tell me which driver to use for x server i have an intel graphic card
[01:42] <simplechat_> or the ones last used
[01:42] <darkchr0n0s> hmm.. i'll ask again once i get my server up
[01:42] <simplechat_> mortz: whats your problem?
[01:42] <de45784> mortz: i810
[01:42] <mortz> thnx
[01:42] <darkchr0n0s> thanks simplechat_
[01:42] <yowshi> drag and drop the songs ion the playliost of what music player?
[01:42] <yowshi> i dont think xmms can do that
[01:42] <Tomcat_> yowshi: rhythmbox
[01:42] <Furionn> kyja its not what i meant, i have one hdd but 3 parts of that and i dont want to damage the 2 of them, and i made one of them empty exactly but i cant find what one it is, when i chose to do that manual. They are named as disk disk1 disk2 but in the setup they are seen as media/hdb1 media/hdb5 media/hdb6 so how can i choose the one i want and know its that one?
[01:43] <Tomcat_> yowshi: Sorry, I was under the impression you used rb :)
[01:43] <yowshi> amarok and xmms
[01:43] <Tomcat_> yowshi: Or rather, I wrongly assumed it.
[01:43] <yowshi> and i prefer xmms
[01:43] <yowshi> i like that winamp look
[01:43] <de45784> yowshi: try to locate the .m3u file (normally ~/.xmms/xmms.m3u)
[01:43] <Tomcat_> I hate the WinAmp functionality. ;)
[01:44] <de45784> Tomcat_: i like xmms too
[01:44] <yowshi> tomcat i said i liked it's look
[01:44] <Tomcat_> Everybody's free to use what he likes. ;)
[01:44] <yowshi> and de4 i know where that is
[01:44] <rila1> /identify rilak jebitese
[01:44] <simplechat_> darkchr0n0s welcome :)
[01:44] <rila1> whoopsie
[01:44] <simplechat_> ah, yeah
[01:44] <simplechat_> i'd change your password now
[01:44] <G4Z> lol
[01:44] <simplechat_> like right now
[01:44] <rila1> hmeh
[01:44] <G4Z> too late
[01:44] <simplechat_> because within a few seconds that account is going to be gone
[01:44] <G4Z> j/k
[01:44] <rila1> not that I care
[01:45] <rila1> the pain comes from being a fool
[01:45] <rila1> not from losing an accout :)
[01:45] <rila1> account*
[01:45] <trogdor> how do I view current iptables policies or "chains" as they are called?
[01:45] <G4Z> i got used to that pain a while back
[01:45] <kyja> Furionn, ok. there must be data there telling you the size and what is used space and perhaps even visual as I said before about the yellow shading in the manual partition manager. data is usually written beside the partitions stating size used and free
[01:45] <de45784> yowshi: grep -v "^#" ~/.xmms/xmms.m3u   will get you a list of all files in the playlist
[01:45] <yowshi> grrr cant install rhytmbox without my cd
[01:45] <jrib> !iptables > trogdor (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:45] <simplechat_> trogdor sudo iptables --show or similar
[01:45] <IdleOne> rila1: in the future use the server tab to send passwords :)
[01:45] <simplechat_> go iptables --help and look for something meaning show or something like that
[01:45] <yowshi> i know the files in it too de4 i would like a fast way of copying them
[01:46] <waspdigger> cp is faster already
[01:46] <trogdor> jrib: thx, I got caught up in all the technicalities I didn't know how to check what I was doing heh..
[01:46] <IdleOne> wouldnt cp *.mp3 /dir work?
[01:46] <Furionn> kyja and how can i set it to get install? is that ok for NTFS?
[01:47] <rilak> IdleOne, good call
[01:47] <de45784> yowshi: well then do some simple shell programming: grep -v "^#" ~/.xmms/xmms.m3u | while read f ; do cp "$f" /media/your_usb_device/ ; done
[01:47] <voidmain2> is there a way to netinstall ubuntu?
[01:47] <de45784> voidmain2: yes
[01:47] <rhalff> does gnome has some kind of automation possibility ?
[01:48] <simplechat_> for autostarting on login?
[01:48] <simplechat_> or for what?
[01:48] <rhalff> no for macro stuff
[01:48] <trogdor> simplechat_: that command doesn't work for me..
[01:48] <waspdigger> cp -r *.mp3
[01:48] <rhalff> like starting up applications and doing somestuff
[01:48] <simplechat_> trogdor my ubuntu system isn't working, but its something similar
[01:49] <IdleOne> !defaultapp | rhalff
[01:49] <ubotu> rhalff: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[01:49] <simplechat_> pm me the result of sudo iptables --help
[01:49] <de45784> voidmain2: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[01:49] <heguru> trogdor: you can view iptables rules by: sudo iptables -L
[01:49] <kyja> Furionn, no you will have to install linux on an ext3 format. the installer is likely asking you to choose the partition thats going to be used for install now?? it will have to be a blank ext3 partition and needs to also find another very small partition called a swap partition format named linux-swap as a data page service like virtual memory.
[01:50] <heguru> trogdor: add -v or -vv to the command for more details
[01:50] <demon_spork> I get so tired of seeing quit messages "Ex-Chat" :(
[01:50] <voidmain2> most excellent thanks for your help de45784
[01:50] <rilak> After switching my eth0 from DHCP to static IP in network-admin (or via /etc/network/interfaces  then ifconfig), my eth0 works as configured for a minute and two then dies.  No data is sent, no data received, and nothing gets logged in /var/log/syslog at the time when the interface goes mute.  I'm not proficient with networking, so I've only tried checking the status of the link with mii-diag and verifying that the IP is still co
[01:50] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$ grep -v "^#" ~/Desktop/yo.m3u | while read f ; do cp "$f" /media/disk/;
[01:50] <yowshi> >
[01:50] <yowshi> yoshi@ubuntu:~$
[01:50] <yowshi> hmmm
[01:50] <yowshi> what did i miss?
[01:50] <mortz> i just went through the xorg config in the shell and it has the * in the 1024... box but it still doesnt appear in the list to change it
[01:50] <de45784> yowshi: you forgot the "done" statement
[01:50] <yowshi> oh
[01:51] <yowshi> LOL
[01:51] <yowshi> thought that was like not part of it
[01:51] <de45784> yowshi: it's   while ... ; do somecommand ; done
[01:51] <waspdigger> remember that swap partion should at least double the RAM size
[01:52] <simplechat_> waspdigger, so if i'm making my own partitions i need two: one is "swap" and double my ram size (4 gig) and the rest is ext3?
[01:52] <simplechat_> minus a buffer between disks?
[01:52] <waspdigger> lol
[01:52] <simplechat_> ?
[01:53] <kyja> buffer?
[01:53] <jodih2> last question
[01:53] <waspdigger> at least 2 partions yup one for swap and for /
[01:53] <simplechat_> ubuntu seems to be overestimating its free space
[01:53] <simplechat_> and corrupting its root partition and taking out windows
[01:53] <jodih2> i got postfix and courier for pop3
[01:53] <simplechat_> ubuntu can repair itself, windows dies painfully
[01:53] <jodih2> now the blond question: How do i set up mailboxes
[01:53] <rilak> yup, ext3 has demonic powers of self-repair
[01:54] <waspdigger> since ur RAM is big enough i think just leave it 1X1 RAM size
[01:54] <waspdigger> wehehehe
[01:54] <simplechat_> ?
[01:54] <waspdigger> i hope there aint windows anymore hehehe
[01:54] <kyja> jodih2, omg thats not blond at all ! that is a bit more complicated and I dont remember how lol
[01:54] <rilak> even managed to straighten things out after I've inadvertently started booting Linux in VMware from the same Linux while running, raw disk access on
[01:54] <simplechat_> waspdigger, i still need windows for games
[01:55] <waspdigger> hahaa ok ok
[01:55] <yowshi> thank you very much
[01:56] <yowshi> that worked perfectly
[01:56] <gerst_> what should I do.. whatever I want to install with apt-get install I get this error message
[01:56] <gerst_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:56] <gerst_>   compiz: Depends: compiz-decorator
[01:56] <gerst_>   compiz-gnome: Depends: compiz-gtk (= 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13) but it is not going to be installed
[01:56] <gerst_> and I cant install anything
[01:57] <rilak> gerst_: it's a known bug in packaging
[01:57] <gerst_> what can I do?
[01:57] <rilak> gerst_: I don't really know, but I know what I did
[01:57] <jodih2> im desperate please help
[01:57] <rilak> I dropped compiz in favor of compiz-fusion
[01:57] <gerst_> I cant even uninstall it
[01:59] <rilak> gerst_: what happens when you try to remove the packages?
[01:59] <wers> !evolution
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <gerst_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[01:59] <gerst_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:59] <gerst_>   compiz-gnome: Depends: compiz-gtk (= 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13) but it is not going to be installed
[01:59] <gerst_>   desktop-effects: Depends: compiz but it is not going to be installed
[01:59] <gerst_> but apt-get -f install doesnt work
[02:00] <wers> hmmm.. is there a channel for evolution?
[02:00] <gerst_> I tried with apt-get remove...
[02:00] <rilak> gerst_: you can always remove the packages using dpkg
[02:00] <gerst_> how?
[02:01] <maqix> ciao
[02:01] <gerst_> dpkg -r compiz ?
[02:01] <maqix> yes
[02:01] <gerst_> dpkg: error processing compiz (--remove):
[02:01] <gerst_>  dependency problems - not removing
[02:01] <gerst_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:01] <gerst_>  compiz
[02:02] <gerst_> Its not working with -P either..
[02:02] <gerst_> damn...
[02:02] <rilak> there's a --force option to dpkg, I think
[02:03] <rilak> actually a family of --force-* options
[02:03] <rilak> just be careful
[02:03] <gerst_> it could break even more packages..
[02:03] <gerst_> but Im stuck..
[02:03] <gerst_> I cant uninstall anything
[02:03] <redguy_work> Hi, I want to change the default firefox settings (the home page, some bookmarks) for all new users. Is /usr/share/firefox the right place to do it? Won't a firefox upgrade overwrite my changes in there?
[02:03] <gerst_> or install..
[02:03] <rilak> it won't if you force remove just the problem packages, ignoring dependencies
[02:04] <redguy_work> or should I create a default profile in /etc/skel ?
[02:04] <de45784> gerst_: try to find out which of your installed packages depend on compiz
[02:04] <rilak> maybe something like this: dpkg --remove --force-conflicts PKG   ?
[02:05] <n2diy> redguy_work: can't you do that from within Firefox, in /edit/prefrences?
[02:05] <redguy_work> AFAIR there's a --force-all option to dpkg...
[02:05] <rilak> aye, there is one
[02:05] <redguy_work> n2diy: hmm, you mean manually for each new user?
[02:05] <LjL> better be careful with that
[02:05] <de45784> redguy_work: yeah, but before using that, it's a good idea to look which depenency is the problem
[02:06] <rilak> gerst_, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314 thread might be of some help
[02:06] <n2diy> redguy_work: no, I meant as a user, didn't realize you had a multi-user system.
[02:07] <elwario91> hellooo
[02:07] <darkchr0n0s> elwario91 helo
[02:07] <simplechat_> hey
[02:07] <simplechat_> should i sepearte / and /home?
[02:07] <gerst_> just a sec..
[02:07] <simplechat_> or just keep them all in /?
[02:07] <n2diy> simplechat_: yes
[02:07] <simplechat_> how much would / need?
[02:07] <simplechat_> 10 gig?
[02:07] <elwario91> someone knows a simple prog to create videos (like windows media maker) but opensource?
[02:07] <simplechat_> 20 gig?
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s>  /home is under /
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> 8gb
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> min
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> or you can drop some packages
[02:08] <simplechat_> i install masses of stuff
[02:08] <simplechat_> and i was using 12 before
[02:08] <darkchr0n0s> 20gig is safe if you plan for long term
[02:09] <darkchr0n0s> how much hdd you have
[02:09] <darkchr0n0s> depends on that
[02:10] <trogdor> elwario91: PiTiVi I hear is good
[02:10] <JENNI> OLS
[02:10] <JENNI> OLA
[02:10] <darkchr0n0s> !caps
[02:10] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:10] <jrib> !es | JENNI
[02:10] <ubotu> JENNI: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:10] <elwario91> thanks
[02:11] <darkchr0n0s> !caps | JENNI
[02:11] <ubotu> JENNI: please see above
[02:11] <darkchr0n0s> :)
[02:11] <darkchr0n0s> espaneol
[02:11] <jrib> elwario91: pitivi and kino
[02:11] <elwario91> ok :) thx
[02:11] <darkchr0n0s> we need one #ubuntu-hindi
[02:12] <simplechat_> we need a #ubuntu-noobs
[02:12] <gerst__> re
[02:12] <simplechat_> and a #ubuntu-please-help-me
[02:12] <gerst__> my whole X died...hehe
[02:12] <darkchr0n0s> :D
[02:12] <simplechat_> copy back your backup x config file?
[02:12] <gerst__> its ok..
[02:13] <gerst__> that is not a problem
[02:13] <darkchr0n0s> but you cannot redirect ppl as you can on a DC++ server.. so kinda not much fun
[02:13] <jrib> darkchr0n0s: #ubuntu-in
[02:13] <darkchr0n0s> nice
[02:13] <n2diy> #ubuntu-LTS would be nice too.
[02:14] <darkchr0n0s> no need
[02:14] <darkchr0n0s> LTS is almost same as this
[02:14] <Ronin[] > hi
[02:14] <simplechat_> hey
[02:14] <Ronin[] > i've to reinstall grub somehow
[02:15] <n2diy> darkchr0n0s: it is? then why to I have to deal with all the Feisty and Gutsy stuff?
[02:15] <Ronin[] > had to reinstall windows, now the bootmanager is gone. Would be no Problem, if i can somehow boot the installed Ubuntu
[02:15] <de45784> !grub | Ronin[] 
[02:15] <ubotu> Ronin[] : grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:15] <gerst__> after apt-get -f install .. I got this..  http://pastebin.com/m48ba885
[02:15] <n2diy> darkchr0n0s: I don't mind trying to help, but Dapper is in a world of it's own, or so it seems.
[02:16] <Ronin[] > :) ok, will try this, thanks
[02:17] <jrib> n2diy: you don't really see many version-specific problems
[02:18] <de45784> gerst__: what happens if you try to deinstall compiz-gnome with dpkg?
[02:18] <gerst__> I cant ...
[02:18] <gerst__> i have dependecie error
[02:18] <de45784> gerst__: what depends on compiz-gnome?
[02:19] <n2diy> jrib: well, the disk manager disappeared, and there are other small differences in the menu systems. No biggy, just a pet peeve.
[02:19] <gerst__> de45784: I dont know..
[02:19] <de45784> gerst__: does dpkg not show that?
[02:22] <gerst__> de45784: what command should I type exactly?
[02:22] <lonran> hi all
[02:22] <lonran> a good linux software blog anybody?
[02:22] <de45784> gerst__: sudo dpkg -r compiz-gnome
[02:22] <fevel> can someone please help me with a problem im having installing doom3 on AMD64 feisty?
[02:22] <fevel> I get an alsa error
[02:23] <gerst__> lol..
[02:23] <gerst__> sudo dpkg -r compiz-gnome
[02:23] <gerst__> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove compiz-gnome which isn't installed.
[02:23] <gerst__> its not even there..
[02:23] <gerst__> than how can it be an error?
[02:23] <Poundo> why can't I find libauthen-pam-perl via apt-get I have un-commented multiver and universe in sources.list but can't pull it up is there another way
[02:23] <de45784> gerst__: the install didn't finish because there is another package (compiz-plugins) blocking it
[02:23] <jodih2> how do isetup a newuser
[02:24] <gerst__> what can i do?
[02:24] <de45784> gerst__: it seems compiz-plugins is newer and is meant as a replacement for compiz-gnome
[02:24] <mitchells00> hi ^^;; erm is anyone here that can help me with a little problem...?
[02:25] <de45784> gerst__: is compiz-plugins installed?
[02:25] <g0dd3ss> anyone  know some stuff about wicd? it works fine fro wired but doesnt seem to work for wifi, only sometimes??
[02:25] <gerst__> de45784:  yes
[02:25] <IdleOne> !info libauthen-pam-perl
[02:25] <ubotu> libauthen-pam-perl: Perl interface to PAM library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 136 kB
[02:25] <IdleOne> Poundo: sudo apt-get install libauthen-pam-perl
[02:26] <IdleOne> Poundo: what does that give you?
[02:26] <gerst__> compizconfig-settings-manager depends on plugins..
[02:26] <gerst__> I`ll remove all of them...
[02:26] <de45784> gerst__: i'd try to install compiz-gnome with forced dependencies, then uninstall it and reinstall compiz-plugins
[02:26] <n2diy> If I created a script, that ran as a cron job every night at 2359 hours, would it warn an X users? I want the box to give the user ten minutes warning?
[02:27] <D1> Hello
[02:27] <elwario91> re
[02:27] <gerst__> apt-get install -f compiz-gnome ?
[02:27] <elwario91> is there a program to CREATE videos?
[02:28] <elwario91> i need to create a film of a powerpoint (ugly)
[02:28] <D1> Elwa
[02:28] <D1> What do you mean? Like, record a screen?
[02:28] <Poundo> IdleOne: couldn't find package is what it says
[02:28] <elwario91> no create a video
[02:28] <elwario91> like windows movie maker +o(
[02:28] <IdleOne> Poundo: are you sure you enabled universe and multiverse?
[02:29] <IdleOne> !universe | Poundo
[02:29] <elwario91> i ahve to create a video from images
[02:29] <ubotu> Poundo: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:29] <DaBeowulf> Please help I'm trying to get the nvidia-glx-new running again but when X should start it tells me: failed to load module "wfb" and that the kernel is of version 7184 (nvidia-glx which it installed when I tried to activate nvidia-glx-new via the restricted drivers tool) But I deleted that completely and reinstalled glx-new and used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to activate it...
[02:29] <mitchells00> am i completely invisible....? :P
[02:29] <neopsyche> hello... has "software sources" replaced "software preferences" in feisty?
[02:29] <D1> Hey, I have a wireless internet, PCI card
[02:29] <jodih2> please could someonehelp create users
[02:29] <D1> How can i make it work on Ubuntu?
[02:29] <IdleOne> mitchells00: not completly
[02:29] <teKnofreak> DaBeowulf, hope there is an Enter key, which can be used to break lines, in your keyboard
[02:29] <mitchells00> :P
[02:30] <de45784> mitchells00: no, but you didn't ask a real question
[02:30] <mitchells00> fine :P
[02:30] <mitchells00> actually there's 2
[02:30] <D1> Does anyone know, how can i make, my PCI wireless internet card, to wrok?
[02:30] <bentob0x> anybody bought an openmoko here?
[02:30] <IdleOne> jodih2: Systems > Administration > Users and Groups
[02:30] <ikonia> DaBeowulf the module your are complaining aout doesn't matter
[02:30] <D1> Work*, im sorry
[02:30] <david003> hello. whats a good download manager?
[02:30] <de45784> D1: depends heavily on the chipset of that card
[02:30] <simplechat_> hey, i'm getting a bluescreen on windows startup
[02:30] <mitchells00> 1, is why is my lan card showing up as a wireless adapter...?
[02:30] <jrib> !wifi > D1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:30] <penguincentral_> david003: downthemall firefox extension
[02:30] <ikonia> simplechat_ defrag / chkdsk or ask in ##windows
[02:30] <simplechat_> after installing ubuntu for a dual boot configuration
[02:31] <Curs0r> how to I bring up lo with startup?
[02:31] <david003> downthemall?
[02:31] <simplechat_> ubuntu's disk is also bad
[02:31] <penguincentral_> david003: yes, downthemall
[02:31] <penguincentral_> google it
[02:31] <jrib> !windows | simplechat_
[02:31] <ubotu> simplechat_: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:31] <ikonia> Curs0r lo comes up with any network enabled system
[02:31] <Curs0r> ikonia, not this one
[02:31] <simplechat_> jrib: ubuntu is also broken, it also needs to repair its disk
[02:31] <de45784> mitchells00: maybe your lan card isn't supported by linux and only the wireless card is found
[02:31] <Poundo> IdleOne: Thats why I expanded sources I enabled the lines that end "restricted universe multiverse" for deb and deb-src also the ones that end in universe
[02:31] <ikonia> Curs0r what makes you think its not up
[02:31] <DaBeowulf> Okay but for some reason there's still the kernel stuff left from nvidia-glx (7184) and that conflicts with glx-new and keeps X from starting.
[02:32] <simplechat_> see, it is now cchecking the root partition
[02:32] <IdleOne> !paste | Poundo can you paste your sources.list for me please
[02:32] <ubotu> Poundo can you paste your sources.list for me please: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <Curs0r> ikonia, the fact that I have to run ifconfig lo up or gnome doesn't load properly
[02:32] <jrib> simplechat_: then state the ubuntu problem
[02:32] <ikonia> Curs0r can you expand on that in a little more detail
[02:32] <_-XPERT-_> Curs0r: Edit your /etc/network/interfaces and the add the rule "auto lo" to the config
[02:32] <mitchells00> de45784: but 2 network adapters are showing, both say they're wireless..
[02:33] <Curs0r> ikonia, if I do not log into a tty and run ifconfig lo up then when I log into gnome it takes ages to load and throws an error about the settings daemon
[02:33] <jrib> neopsyche: yes
[02:33] <Curs0r> thank you _-XPERT-_
[02:33] <simplechat_> ubuntu can fix itself, at 94.9% it found errors on the root partition
[02:33] <simplechat_> and now must restart
[02:33] <mitchells00> anyway in several other distro's and in older distro's of ubuntu it was fine...
[02:33] <_-XPERT-_> wc
[02:33] <jodih2> please could someonehelp create users
[02:33] <IdleOne> jodih2: Systems > Administration > Users and Groups
[02:33] <awang> hai
[02:33] <de45784> mitchells00: which program reports them as wireless? i'd go for iwconfig on the console. i don't trust GUI programs.
[02:33] <jodih2> from promt
[02:33] <_-XPERT-_> IdleOne: adduser as root
[02:33] <jodih2> i am on the server with gui interface
[02:34] <IdleOne> jodih2: man adduser
[02:34] <Poundo> ubotu: I'll try it will take a sec as the chat tool is on a different machine than the file back shortly thanks
[02:34] <Rageon> guys im a spastic.. i installed ubuntu the other night and ive forgotten my username/password.. is there anyway to view what users there are?
[02:34] <n2diy> If I created a script, that ran as a cron job every night at 2359 hours, would it warn an X user? I want the box to give the user ten minutes warning?
[02:34] <neopsyche> jrib: how do i add a new software location?
[02:34] <_-XPERT-_> IdleOne: wrong username sorry
[02:34] <Curs0r> ikonia, see how easy it was for _-XPERT-_ to answer my question without grilling me about if I'm sure?
[02:34] <IdleOne> _-XPERT-_: np
[02:35] <_-XPERT-_> neopsyche: Explain add location
[02:35] <_-XPERT-_> Do you mean the apt sources?
[02:35] <neopsyche> do i need to add the ./ at the end of the line when adding a repository?
[02:35] <neopsyche> software
[02:35] <mitchells00> but more importantly 2, i had to edit /ext/X11/xorg.conf to make the video driver "vesa" instead of "nv", to get X to start... and now graphical performance is REALLY bad.. like when i drag a screen the window is cut up..
[02:36] <neopsyche> http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README
[02:36] <IdleOne> !repos | neopsyche
[02:36] <ubotu> neopsyche: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:36] <mitchells00> i have an Nvidia 8800 GT w/ 256 mb and borrows 256 from system memory if that helps..
[02:36] <mitchells00> i just did iwconfig
[02:36] <neopsyche> the old version was easier
[02:36] <neopsyche> 6.06
[02:36] <Zombie> Anyone here familiar with setting up a Firewall on Kubuntu?
[02:37] <Zombie> or Ubuntu Fiesty?
[02:37] <mitchells00> turns out it doesen't see my lan at all, and sees 2 wireless adapters
[02:37] <mitchells00> when i only have 1...........
[02:37] <_-XPERT-_> neopsyche: It states that you compkletely type over the rule
[02:37] <x-fak> hi, can someone tell me why i cant connect to the administrator interface through my swat installation on localhost:901 ?
[02:38] <Kaur> is it safe to disable advanced power management with hdparm or do I put my hdd at risk doing so?
[02:38] <tetraedr> !installation
[02:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:38] <de45784> mitchells00: some wireless drivers show two interfaces for one card. is it wifi0 and ath0?
[02:38] <mitchells00> no it's wlan0 and wmaster0
[02:39] <de45784> mitchells00: alright. that's normal for wireless drivers using the mac80211 stack. it is just one wireless card.
[02:39] <K4U>  I need help with 2 screens and Beryl, how to get them working?
[02:39] <Poundo> ubotu: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39441/
[02:39] <de45784> mitchells00: but the lan card is not supported i guess
[02:39] <de45784> mitchells00: do you have very new or uncommon hardware?
[02:39] <Pici> Poundo: ubotu is a bot.
[02:40] <mitchells00> not that new...
[02:40] <Poundo> Pici: me to ):
[02:40] <de45784> mitchells00: please paste the output of   lspci -n  on phpfi.com
[02:40] <K4U> I need help with 2 screens and Beryl, How do i get them working?
[02:40] <IdleOne> !info libauthen-pam-perl dapper
[02:40] <jrib> neopsyche: same way
[02:41] <ubotu> libauthen-pam-perl: Perl interface to PAM library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 31 kB, installed size 136 kB
[02:41] <Poundo> Pici: thanks I really didn't know
[02:41] <K4U> Nobody here who can help me?:\
[02:42] <x-fak> sorry i'm total newb in ubuntu world
[02:42] <K4U> x-fak: Yeah, me to...
[02:42] <jxxxt> How can I  tell if my h/d fritzed??
[02:42] <Pici> !ask
[02:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:42] <mitchells00> that might be a bit hard..........
[02:43] <K4U> Pici: I need help with 2 screens and Beryl, How do i get them working?
[02:43] <Poundo> ubotu: what does that info mean to me?
[02:43] <jrib> !repeat | K4U
[02:43] <ubotu> K4U: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:43] <mitchells00> i don't have any network coming out of that computer... so i can't transfer the file anywhere..
[02:43] <IdleOne> Poundo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39443/ modify you sources.list to look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39443/ make sure to sudo apt-get update after modifying then try to install that package again
[02:43] <vmlinuz`> how do i change kdm to gdm???
[02:43] <K4U> Jrib: Yeah, i know. bot nobody answers..
[02:43] <Pici> vmlinuz`: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm`
[02:44] <de45784> mitchells00: btw, if you have wmaster0 and wlan0, which version of ubuntu do you use?
[02:44] <vmlinuz`> Pici: Thanks.
[02:44] <mitchells00> 7.10
[02:44] <jrib> K4U: you may want to try #ubuntu-effects
[02:44] <Pici> Poundo: Ubotu is not a human.  Its a computer program and isnt going to be responding to you any time soon.  If it does, we have a real problem.
[02:44] <de45784> mitchells00: that is not supported here, go to #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <K4U> jrib: Already in there, nobody answering...
[02:44] <moforilla> Whats the command for unmounting a disk?
[02:44] <de45784> mitchells00: here we support only released versions of ubuntu
[02:44] <DoYouKnow> when does 7.10 hit final?
[02:45] <jxxxt> K4U, what did you ask??
[02:45] <mitchells00> ok.. thanks ^^;;
[02:45] <de45784> DoYouKnow: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:45] <K4U> jxxxt: I need help with 2 screens and Beryl, How do i get them working?
[02:45] <jrib> K4U: you need to be patient
[02:45] <Pici> DoYouKnow: ~Oct 18th  All futher questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[02:45] <jrib> !support > K4U (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:45] <IdleOne> Pici: if ubotu does respond perhaps it has surpassed it's coder and then Ubuntu becomes a really cool OS :)
[02:46] <aLeSD> nonsoloverde
[02:46] <IdleOne> Ubuntu is already really cool
[02:46] <jhaig> I want to use mplayer to record a stream.  Is it possible to tell it to stop after a certain time?
[02:46] <IdleOne> !botsnack
[02:46] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:46] <K4U> lol
[02:46] <SpiderPig> genii u have starbooks? :D
[02:46] <jxxxt> K4U, I am not good with beryl maybe you would be better in #effects sorry.
[02:46] <SpiderPig> very good cofe
[02:47] <K4U> jxxxt: Yeah, i'm already there;) thnx anyway
[02:47] <IdleOne> K4U: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl maybe
[02:47] <K4U> IdleOne: #beryl doesn't exists... and #ubuntu-effects is nobody in
[02:47] <Poundo> IdleOne: thanks. does that first line mean i have to have the cd?
[02:48] <genii> SpiderPig: Not that i know of... is it some web service?
[02:48] <jxxxt> my computer has become very unstable is there a wat to identify a H/D problem please??
[02:48] <IdleOne> Poundo: the # in front of a line means " do not use this line it is only info "
[02:48] <jxxxt> way
[02:48] <genii> Perhaps meant Starbucks?
[02:48] <IdleOne> Poundo: package is installed now?
[02:49] <Poundo> IdleOne: the package is not installed now
[02:49] <IdleOne> Poundo: hmm ok because it gave you an error or because you havent tried yet?
[02:50] <Poundo> No I am trying to install a prgram that requires libauthen
[02:50] <seisen> can you remove both gnome panels
[02:51] <D1> Hey
[02:51] <D1> Does anyone know a freeware program, that can open .rar?
[02:51] <IdleOne> Poundo: ok you have edited sources.list correct? afterwards you do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install libauthen-pam-perl then try installing the program again. WHAT PROGRAM YOU TRYING TO INSTALL?
[02:52] <genii> !unrar
[02:52] <Pici> !rar | D1
[02:52] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:52] <ubotu> D1: please see above
[02:52] <elvisd> D1: archive manager with plugins installed from automatiX
[02:52] <Pici> !automatix | elvisd D1
[02:52] <ubotu> elvisd D1: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:52] <D1> !info unrar-free
[02:52] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[02:52] <IdleOne> automatix | elvisd please do not recommend that broken piece of code in here
[02:52] <elvisd> hi hi ih . ok
[02:52] <jxxxt> 1100 users someone must know
[02:53] <genii> D1: The name of the package you want from the package manager is unrar-free
[02:53] <Curs0r> _-XPERT-_, it also needed the line iface lo inte loopback
[02:53] <jrib> D1: use "unrar", not "unrar-free"
[02:53] <Curs0r> s/inte/inet
[02:53] <genii> jrib: I forgot...unrar compresses too, yeah?
[02:53] <Pici> genii: unrar-free can't decomress multi-part archives iirc
[02:54] <genii> Aaaaaah
[02:54] <Curs0r> and now my AoE system is just like any other desktop :D
[02:54] <Pici> Which is what most people use rar for ;)
[02:54] <IdleOne> Poundo: I have to get going. hope you get this working. if you need any more help ask in here . /me looks at jrib Pici ikonia  all good folks who know theyre stuff :))
[02:54] <Lhademmor> Ubuntu people: What media player do you use to organize your music?
[02:54] <x-fak> is it normal that ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb printer when i try to add a new printer ?
[02:54] <IdleOne> !printers
[02:54] <Poundo> IdleOne: thanks !
[02:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:55] <Lhademmor> !unrar
[02:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:55] <IdleOne> Poundo: np
[02:55] <seisen> Is it possible to remove both gnome panels and just use Kiba-dock
[02:55] <seisen> It depends on what printer it is
[02:55] <Lhademmor> !thanks
[02:55] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:55] <x-fak> but linux is not plug and play ?
[02:55] <x-fak> i can see my printer using ls_usb
[02:55] <D1> ubotu is a awesome bot =D
[02:55] <seisen> some printers are some are not
[02:55] <elvisd> ok. read to link given. sorry to all!
[02:56] <jxxxt> people, I have a critical problem can some one please help me my computer is behaving as though there is a memory problem but I suspect the hard drive
[02:56] <seisen> what type of printer do you have x-fak
[02:56] <x-fak> hp 843C
[02:56] <x-fak> usb port
[02:56] <x-fak> i see it with ls_usb
[02:56] <seisen> hp's are usually pretty good in Ubuntu
[02:56] <x-fak> when using wizard to add it, cant detect it
[02:57] <x-fak> do i need to install driver manually?
[02:57] <seisen> might be a possibility let me check somethin
[02:58] <elvisd> sorry ubotu!
[02:58] <magnetron> what command should i use, if i want to search for a specific string in directory of text files?
[02:58] <jrib> magnetron: grep -R
[02:58] <magnetron> jrib: ty
[02:59] <de45784> magnetron: grep -r string *   (if you are in that directory)
[03:00] <pannik> Good afternoon
[03:00] <jxxxt> jrib, can you help me??
[03:00] <pannik> I am looking for the engage docker of dreamlinux. Do anybody help me?
[03:01] <jrib> jxxxt: define "unstable"
[03:01] <mooper> Grr, this usb stick wont automount
[03:01] <mooper> can I poke it?
[03:02] <Roni1> hi
[03:03] <genii> pannik: The docker in Dreamlinux is from e17 window manager
[03:04] <jxxxt> jrib, Seems like I am running a late model o/s on about 4megs of ram as soon as I try to multi task I run out of memory or some thing eg I tried to install a new o/s and the program died at the user name password enty
[03:04] <Roni1> i just reinstalled grub, no i'm getting error 17 when selecting my linux, error 13 when selecting the windows to boot
[03:04] <jrib> jxxxt: 4!?
[03:05] <Tarkus> anyone know how i can format a mini-DVD-RW?
[03:05] <jxxxt> jrib, thats a guess but I get freezes and stall gui gaps etc
[03:05] <Roni1> -no +now
[03:05] <steve_j> hi all
[03:06] <jrib> jxxxt: how much do you have?
[03:06] <steve_j> i'm trying to sort out a mysql issue. an app is lookin for /tmp/mysql.sock by default but it's not there. can i point it at /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock instead? is mysqld essentially a daemon version of mysql?
[03:06] <jxxxt> jrib, 512 @ 2 x 256 ddr
[03:07] <jrib> jxxxt: try running memtest?
[03:08] <jxxxt> jrib, yes but not all the way though. free -m reports 309 +165 cache
[03:08] <Tarkus> anyone know how i can format a mini-DVD-RW?
[03:08] <Lhademmor> !banshee
[03:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[03:08] <redguy_work> or should I create a default profile in /etc/skel ?
[03:08] <redguy_work> erm
[03:08] <redguy_work> Hi, I want to change the default firefox settings (the home page, some bookmarks) for all new users. Is /usr/share/firefox the right place to do it? Won't a firefox upgrade overwrite my changes in there?
[03:08] <dgjones> if a cd recorder is replaced by a dvd recorder, will 7.04 pick up the change automatically? or will a config file/driver need changing?
[03:08] <jrib> jxxxt: try several complete passes of memtest
[03:09] <dazza> hi, i can't adjust screen resolution in X using ctrl+alt++/- like you're meant to be able to. was this disabled in feisty or have i borked something?
[03:09] <MannyZ> java plugin
[03:09] <MannyZ> !java plugin
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <MannyZ> !java
[03:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:10] <MannyZ> heyaaa
[03:10] <Filthpig> hi, I've upgraded to gutsy 7.10
[03:10] <whiskeytango> Why cant i get an application to work through wine?  it installed ok, but when i go to apps->wine->Programs->joost->joost.exe  nothing happens
[03:10] <mooper> Can anyone give me any ideas why my usb stick isnt automounting?
[03:10] <Pici> Filthpig: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[03:10] <MannyZ> can someone help me with java?.. it dosnt work on my firefox2
[03:10] <redguy_work> also, it would be nice to know how to provide users with some plug-ins out of the box.
[03:10] <Filthpig> Pici: alright, sorry
[03:10] <jrib> MannyZ: read the page ubotu said
[03:10] <MannyZ> what was it?
[03:11] <MannyZ> jrib
[03:11] <jrib> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:11] <MannyZ> thanks jrib
[03:11] <jxxxt> jrib, OK I cannot remain in exchat if I do that as soon as I try to open another program I get a lock up if memtest  is ok is there a h/dtest I cando??
[03:11] <Roni1> hmm, webpages tell me that my root (hdx,y) may be wrong, but how to know whats correct
[03:11] <de45784> mooper: does the stick / partitions of it show in   cat /proc/partitions ?
[03:11] <redguy_work> Let me put it another way: is there any documentation on site specific customization of firefox (and/or thunderbird) in ubuntu?
[03:12] <jrib> jxxxt: you select memtest from the grub menu
[03:12] <al> OK this is an emergency!
[03:12] <al> if I don't fix this, the dude's going to reinstall Vista!
[03:12] <al> So.
[03:13] <al> I can't get this laptop to connect to a BT voyager router's wireless
[03:13] <mooper> de45784: yes I think so
[03:13] <al> The card itself is working fine, as far as I can tell
[03:13] <redguy_work> al: let him, he'll come back begging for ubuntu :-)
[03:13] <de45784> mooper: don't think so, make sure
[03:13] <al> Ohhh no he won't
[03:13] <mooper> de45784: yes sdf is there
[03:13] <al> He's not used ubuntu at all yet
[03:13] <al> This is the first installation of it and it doesn't work
[03:13] <al> So he's not happy at all
[03:13] <de45784> mooper: does it have any partitions?
[03:14] <mooper> yes sdf1
[03:14] <al> To be honest, I don't blame him, but then, it's not my fault if he has crappy hardware
[03:14] <de45784> mooper: and which filesystem is on sdf1?
[03:14] <al> But on the other hand, most people have crappy hardware
[03:14] <jxxxt> jrib, ok                       Is there a h/d test I can do because I strongly suspect that to be the cause of my problem
[03:14] <al> So it's no wonder people stick with Windows.
[03:14] <al> ANYWAY
[03:14] <mooper> de45784: how do I tell?
[03:14] <kyja> vista... isn't that a word people use for a piece of property that has better views so you can be more over taxed on something that's useless other than to look at?
[03:14] <redguy_work> al: which laptop is it? what kind of wifi chip does it have?
[03:14] <al> It's an intel chip in an Avant laptop
[03:14] <al> The drivers seem to work
[03:14] <jrib> jxxxt: I don't know
[03:14] <de45784> mooper: run   sudo blkid /dev/sdf1
[03:14] <al> It's scanning and finding networks OK
[03:14] <Pici> !enter | al
[03:14] <ubotu> al: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:14] <kyja> microsoft does not false advertise in a name lmao
[03:14] <al> Argh sorry ><
[03:15] <mooper> de45784: vfat
[03:15] <whiskeytango> Why cant i get an application to work through wine?  it installed ok, but when i go to apps->wine->Programs->joost->joost.exe  nothing happens
[03:15] <de45784> mooper: and other stick do automount? only this one doesn't?
[03:15] <jxxxt> jrib, Do you know if a failing h/d demonstrates similar faults to memory lack???
[03:15] <jrib> jxxxt: I don't know
[03:15] <mooper> de45784: It work fine in my laptop, but not in my desktop
[03:16] <mooper> both running feisty
[03:16] <al> OK: Avant somethingorother laptop, intel chip which seems to have its drivers installed. iwconfig returns data for wlan0. The network is WEP, but standard procedure doesn't work, whether I use network manager or just if/iwconfig
[03:16] <SlimeyPete> whiskeytango: try navigating to your wine c drive (~/.wine/drive_c I think), finding the path for joost and running "wine joost.exe"
[03:16] <SlimeyPete> see if it prints any errors
[03:16] <jxxxt> jrib, Ok Thanks for trying to help me
[03:16] <de45784> mooper: maybe you disabled management for removable disks in the natilus settings
[03:16] <al> what can I do to find out why it's not working and what can I then do to fix it? :<
[03:16] <SlimeyPete> (from commandline, I mean)
[03:16] <mooper> de45784: Im on kubuntu
[03:16] <seisen> al: can you access the router from the laptop
[03:17] <de45784> mooper: i don't run kubuntu or ubuntu here, sorry
[03:17] <al> seisen: no. He has an ethernet cable but it doesn't work.
[03:17] <de45784> mooper: i'm running xubuntu, so i cannot tell which config to check
[03:17] <Zombie> Anyone have a default shorewall.conf file?
[03:17] <jxxxt> moopr, Kubuntu has its own channel
[03:17] <al> seisen: having said that, iwlist scan does return the network
[03:18] <jxxxt> mooper, Kubuntu has its own channel
[03:18] <seisen> al: most routers you can access through 192.168.0.1 or something similar
[03:18] <mooper> de45784: ta, you have poked me in the right direction
[03:18] <ikonia>  mooper #kbuntu
[03:18] <al> seisen: he can connect to it through his other computer, but everything's set up right
[03:18] <jxxxt> mooper, #kubuntu
[03:18] <al> seisen: the problem is it's not getting a DCHP lease.
[03:19] <aata> hey... does anybody know how to restore default settings in ubuntu (i.e fonts, etc.) without removing any packages or reinstalling. in other words how can you make it look just like the day it was installed?
[03:19] <ikonia> aata reinstall only
[03:19] <ikm_> hello, please help! I am a bit lost at the moment! I am using X-Chat ... is a pm possible? I know more than I should about IRC but I'm not sure how to drive this client etc.
[03:19] <ikonia> aata there is no back to defaults button
[03:19] <aata> oh MAN
[03:19] <al> Urgh, he's taking it back to Curry's today
[03:19] <aata> can i atleast have something for fonts?
[03:19] <al> All hope is lost
[03:20] <jxxxt> ikm_, if you have a registered nick you can pm
[03:20] <de45784> al: maybe it's a normal patch cable but a crossover cable is needed? do you see the lan card detecting link?
[03:20] <ikm_> thanks jxxxt
[03:20] <jxxxt> ikm_, np :-)
[03:20] <al> de45784: doesn't matter really. We want a wireless connection.
[03:20] <al> de45784: either way, he needs a new cable.
[03:21] <de45784> al: okay. which wireless intel card is it exactly? and which type of wireless encryption?
[03:22] <al> de45784: it's WEP encryption, I don't know the exact chipset but Ubuntu seems to have picked it up happily
[03:22] <hermz> al: have you run lspci in a terminal?
[03:22] <de45784> al: check with lspci
[03:22] <al> Not yet, I was hoping to avoid anything with output.
[03:22] <al> I can't do anything because he won't just get a proper cable
[03:22] <moforilla> Is It ok to make ntfs disk writable in ubuntu?
[03:23] <aata> ikonia: cant i delete some ~/.* directory?
[03:23] <bullium> does anyone know the the best font to use with putty when sshing to a ubuntu box? Translation is UTF-8
[03:23] <hermz> al: open a terminal and type lspci. You should be able to find the chipset from that
[03:23] <de45784> al: look, if you want us to help you, you have to give proper information.
[03:23] <ikonia> aata unwise
[03:23] <ikonia> aata that will only effect your gnome setting
[03:24] <aata> i see... thanks anyway
[03:24] <ikm_> jxxxt: ok, I give up! "/help" doesn't give me a "register nick"-type option ... do I get a clue (do I have a clue just because I looked?)
[03:24] <al> I know this, which is why it's so hard for me to fix it.
[03:24] <aata> i guess ill look up th defaults and replace them manually
[03:24] <al> OK, is there anything I can do to get debug information?
[03:24] <ikonia> ikm_: /msg nickserv help
[03:24] <ikonia> ikm_: join #freenode for irc lessons
[03:24] <al> All I want to know is why it's not getting a DHCP lease.
[03:24] <ikonia> al what does the syslog on the client and server say
[03:24] <ikonia> al does ths erver see a requiest
[03:25] <ikonia> al does the client issue a request ?
[03:25] <hermz> al: I bought an advvent 8315 from pcworld on friday and the wifi is: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[03:25] <hendrixski> :-( what was that command that logs everything in your terminal?
[03:25] <ikm_> tx ikonia
[03:25] <ikonia> al is the client even on the same working lan
[03:25] <al> OK
[03:25] <jxxxt> ikm_, i think you type  /register <nick> if not go back to page one and there is a walk through
[03:25] <ikonia> hendrixski script
[03:25] <hendrixski> ikonia, ah, right... thank you :-)
[03:25] <DaBeowulf> dammit I'm short of reinstalling the OS..
[03:25] <ikm_> jxxxt: ah! ok, thank you for your trouble :)
[03:26] <al> Do you mean DHCP request? It's definitely issuing a DHCP request because I'm telling it to. I don't know what the syslog on the server says because it's a crappy BT router with no such thing. As for being on the same LAN, no, it's not on any LAN.
[03:26] <hermz> al; I had to disable the network manager applet to get it to work properly
[03:26] <DaBeowulf> Why does it still say the nvidia kernel module is 7184 when I installed nvidia-glx-new?
[03:26] <darrend> is there documentation anywhere regarding if-up.d / if-down.d scripts?  Specifically what variables are made available to them?
[03:26] <al> I uninstalled network manager
[03:26] <ikonia> DaBeowulf because thats the version you have
[03:26] <DaBeowulf> And how do I fix it permanently?
[03:26] <ikonia> DaBeowulf why is that a problem ?
[03:26] <jxxxt> ikm_, When you do the reg thing go back to page one for outcome
[03:26] <hermz> have you tried setting up via System/administration/network?
[03:26] <DaBeowulf> I can get it to boot maybe once but the next time X won't start.
[03:26] <ikonia> de45784: investigate why
[03:27] <de45784> ikonia: ?
[03:27] <seisen> I have that same chipset and I have to use network-manager to connect to wireless network
[03:27] <ikonia> de45784 sorry
[03:27] <DaBeowulf> X will not start it says kernel module is 7184 while the driver is 9755
[03:27] <al> I've tried both with and without network-manager
[03:27] <de45784> ikonia: no problem
[03:27] <ikonia> DaBeowulf: investigate why
[03:27] <al> In fact, I'm only doing it without network manager because it didn't work with network manager
[03:27] <heguru> darrend: man interfaces
[03:27] <Mark7> I want to chnage the plug in Mozilla uses for audio only streams
[03:27] <DaBeowulf> I tried.
[03:27] <darrend> DaBeowulf: rmmod nvidia && /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:27] <ikonia> al have you done any of the stuff I asked you to
[03:28] <darrend> heguru: thanks
[03:28] <al> I can't do jack at the moment because he's not replying to me
[03:28] <hermz> al: have you tried editing the etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:28] <al> Yes I've done that
[03:28] <Zombie> Hey.
[03:28] <hermz> sorry, ive joined the chat a bit late. What laptop does he have?
[03:28] <Zombie> Anyone have a default shorewall.conf file?
[03:28] <Mark7> I'm sick and tired of mplayer hijacking the browser
[03:28] <al> What would I be looking for in the syslog? anything I can grep for to make his life easier?
[03:29] <al> All he's telling me is that it's an Avant.
[03:29] <al> he's either really stupid or blind or it just doesn't say any more than that on it
[03:29] <DaBeowulf> darrend: permission denied even whith sudo (Shall I try that when X and gdm are down?)
[03:29] <Mark7> How do I edit my plug ins?
[03:30] <darrend> DaBeowulf: er, yes, sorry.  From a tty as root (sudo -i) or individually with sudo
[03:30] <DaBeowulf> what does the -i switch do or what do you mean with individually?
[03:30] <heguru> Mark7: do you want to remove mplayer plugin?  just uninstall the mplayerplug-in package
[03:30] <heguru> Mark7: sudo apt-get --purge remove mplayerplug-in
[03:30] <DaBeowulf> besides what does it do at all?
[03:30] <ts_> how do i inturrupt (stop) a dd ? Thanks
[03:30] <K4U> Nvidia
[03:31] <K4U> oops...
[03:31] <ikonia> ts_: ctrl + c
[03:31] <DoYouKnow> how do I get dvd playing working in totem? what's the best repository for that?
[03:31] <ts_> ikonia:  thanks
[03:31] <DoYouKnow> I want DeCSS
[03:31] <darrend> DaBeowulf: sudo -i gives an interactive "root" shell (no need to type sudo before everything)
[03:31] <ikonia> !dvd >DoYouKnow
[03:31] <DoYouKnow> ty
[03:32] <darrend> DaBeowulf: or you can do "sudo rmmod nvidia" followed by "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[03:32] <DaBeowulf> Thanks a lot this rmmod sounds about right from man rmmod <3
[03:32] <GNine> so lazy to type 4 letters..?
[03:32] <GNine> blah
[03:32] <DaBeowulf> I'll try this now.
[03:32] <vmlinuz`> hey, why i can't erase wth (Backspace) in Terminal.
[03:32] <darrend> DaBeowulf: restarting gdm should force the right nvidia module to load
[03:32] <vmlinuz`> in other terminals i can.
[03:32] <ikm_> jxxxt: I'm sorry to bother you! #1: "register" in various forms seems not to be a command #2: the only reason I asked about pm is because I have a few questions and I don't want to interrupt the channel discussion.
[03:33] <DaBeowulf> I'm on Xubuntu if that makes a differnce.
[03:33] <darrend> ok
[03:33] <K4U> Hi, i'm having trouble with Beryl and using 2 screens. how do i enable that?
[03:33] <bullium> exit
[03:34] <LjL> !beryl > K4U    (K4U, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:34] <hermz> al: just been looking on the currys website and I cant find any mention of  avant laptops. There is advent. Is it possibele that your friend has got confused?
[03:34] <kaptengu> how can I remove my pcmcia wifi card securly?
[03:34] <al> One of us has got confused, it seems.
[03:34] <al> Might have been me, sorry about that.
[03:34] <simplechat_> get
[03:34] <al> I'd've asked him but he's gone.
[03:34] <K4U> LjL: i'm already there...
[03:34] <simplechat_> *hey
[03:34] <simplechat_> i'm having problems with my winxp/ubuntu setup
[03:35] <simplechat_> atm it won't boot at all
[03:35] <simplechat_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3467981#post3467981
[03:35] <K4U> simplechat: have you installed ubuntu, or what?
[03:36] <simplechat_> K4U, please read the post
[03:36] <simplechat_> i have installed ubuntu and windows xp (no service pack), and am now without anything bootable
[03:36] <simplechat_> atm i'm restarting on a livecd
[03:37] <hermz> al: Oh well. Your friend might have fun returning it with ubuntu installed. Can see curry's refusing to help due to that ist not the "official" O/s installed ;)
[03:37] <ikonia> simplechat_ what is the problem
[03:37] <magnetron> simplechat_: so you installed winxp after ubuntu?
[03:37] <al> hermz: I'll see what happens when he gets back
[03:37] <simplechat_> winxp before ubuntu
[03:37] <simplechat_> winxp first bluescreened on startup
[03:37] <ikonia> simplechat_ can you boot ubuntu ?#
[03:37] <magnetron> !grub | simplechat_
[03:37] <ubotu> simplechat_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:37] <K4U> simplechat_: I have no troubles with it.. Have you tried grub
[03:37] <hermz> bye all
[03:37] <simplechat_> then when i tried to "fix" it, now neither is ok
[03:37] <K4U> yeah, thnx magnetron...
[03:37] <Davy_Jones> tics
[03:37] <simplechat_> i used the first tutorial on that batch of links
[03:37] <simplechat_> that magnetron gave
[03:38] <simplechat_> and it left my system in an unbootable state
[03:38] <simplechat_> (after fixing the mbr of windows)
[03:38] <DoYouKnow> is there a gcc-full package that will let me run install-css.sh on feisty?
[03:38] <magnetron> simplechat_: was it bootable before you tried that tutorial?
[03:38] <simplechat_> yes
[03:38] <simplechat_> but winxp bluescreened on startup
[03:38] <DaBeowulf> darrend 'nvidia' does not exist in /proc/modules
[03:38] <simplechat_> ubuntu worked fine, but it found bad sectors and had to rebuild
[03:38] <kaptengu> how do I safely turn off my pcmcia wifi card before removing?
[03:38] <K4U> O darned:| my external harddisk just switched off?
[03:38] <magnetron> DoYouKnow: it's called build-essential
[03:38] <DaBeowulf> That's what it says.
[03:38] <Davy_Jones> blue screen of death ftw
[03:38] <commander-ape> how come there is no php - and php5 - command altough i did a 'apt-get install php5'
[03:39] <jrib> DoYouKnow: build-essentian, but see:
[03:39] <simplechat_> so yeah, any ideas?
[03:39] <jrib> !dvd > DoYouKnow (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:39] <simplechat_> i'll rerun through that tutorial
[03:39] <Tarkus> anyone know how i can format a mini-DVD-RW?
[03:39] <phatfish> The current release keeps sending my old laptop to sleep after about 60 seconds of idle time. I guess its an ACPI thing, i get some something during boot about ACPI that goes past too fast to see. Any ideas?
[03:39] <ikonia> Tarkus ave you been in here and asked it before
[03:39] <Davy_Jones> commander-ape: i think you can't execute php scripts in the terminal.. you have to have a web server
[03:40] <erUSUL> Davy_Jones: you can
[03:40] <commander-ape> Davy_Jones: yes, a vserver
[03:40] <simplechat_> oh this is fun
[03:40] <simplechat_> the live cd can't find any of my drives
[03:40] <commander-ape> erUSUL: then tell me how
[03:40] <clouder> commander-ape: if you want to run the scripts in terminal install php5-cli
[03:40] <vlt> Hello. Can I install Ubuntu from a running system into an empty hd partition (got no cdrom here)?
[03:40] <Tarkus> ikonia, about 5 or 10 minutes ago, yea. havent gotten a reply  though.
[03:40] <magnetron> simplechat_: you may have a hardware problem, as neither windows or ubuntu runs on your box
[03:41] <simplechat_> magnetron: i have been using ubuntu stably for the past week
[03:41] <heguru> Tarkus: if you have gnomebaker installed you can use that
[03:41] <simplechat_> and windows for the last few months before that
[03:41] <magnetron> simplechat_: is it stable no?
[03:41] <ikonia> Tarkus ahh, someone else asked this a week or so ago, we did a bit of research and it lookged like you needed for some hardware a different dvd drive, for the others you rneeded a propritary file system for the camera to read it
[03:41] <simplechat_> its when ubuntu is installed that windows beocomes unstable
[03:41] <simplechat_> and it is after the fix that both die
[03:41] <ikonia> Tarkus: I wondered if you where the same guy from before
[03:41] <simplechat_> i have done this about 7 times now
[03:41] <erUSUL> commander-ape: 'php script' does not work?
[03:41] <Vadi> What is the difference between "best shapes" and "subpixel smoothing (LCDs)" in the preferences - font?
[03:41] <magnetron> simplechat_: installing ubuntu does not alter your windows setup in any way
[03:42] <commander-ape> hold on, i just did an 'apt-get install php5-cli'
[03:42] <DoYouKnow> thanks jrib, magnetron
[03:42] <K4U> magnetor: err, yes. unless you do something really wrong!
[03:42] <Tarkus> ikonia, no i wasnt.. heguru: thanks, ill give it a try
[03:42] <simplechat_> magnetron, it removes its bootloader, which for some reason, xp needs to have
[03:42] <simplechat_> and installs grub
[03:42] <simplechat_> thats breaking windows
[03:42] <simplechat_> i just can't stop it
[03:42] <ikonia> simplechat_ the boot loader is relocated to the disk
[03:42] <simplechat_> yes
[03:42] <magnetron> simplechat_: you said that windows was booting....
[03:42] <simplechat_> thats the problem
[03:42] <ikonia> simplechat_ grub is the boot loader installed
[03:42] <ikonia> simplechat_ thats not a problem, thats how it works
[03:42] <Vadi> If windows is booting, then it's not a bootloader problem.
[03:43] <simplechat_> magnetron: windows was booting, then i install ubuntu, then winxp bluescreens on boot
[03:43] <Vadi> If it wasn't, then it would be.
[03:43] <simplechat_> thats my problem
[03:43] <ikonia> simplechat_ that means the boot loader is working as the boot process starts.
[03:43] <erUSUL> commander-ape: http://es.php.net/features.commandline
[03:43] <magnetron> simplechat_: did you try to run a "fix mbr" from windows?
[03:43] <ikonia> simplechat_: the most common cause of that will be a.) corrupted disk (fix with defrag/scan) b.) bad memory c.) faulty hardware
[03:43] <simplechat_> everyone: windows was booting perfectly fine, i install ubuntu, winxp bluescreens ubuntu works, then i fixed grub with the tutorial, fixed the mbr and now nothing can see the drives
[03:44] <simplechat_> memory is ok, i've run memtest86 on it
[03:44] <simplechat_> disk should be fine, ubuntu installs by itself no problems
[03:44] <moforilla> Can I change my X windows manager?
[03:44] <ikonia> simplechat_ that means nothing
[03:44] <simplechat_> and the hardware works well on either operating system, just not both
[03:44] <ikonia> simplechat_ you have created new partitions
[03:44] <org_> hi, to update to gutsy. what should i do... update manager or download the iso file?? Thx
[03:44] <ikonia> simplechat_ so your disk may need tidying up
[03:44] <Pici> org_: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[03:44] <simplechat_> ikonia: i've done this seven times, each and every time it works
[03:45] <ikonia> simplechat_ you've done what ?
[03:45] <org_> thanks
[03:45] <simplechat_> it goes in stages, first winxp works, ubuntu isn't installed, then ubuntu works and winxp bluescreens
[03:45] <simplechat_> then from then on neither work, in differing orders, depending on what i do to them
[03:45] <simplechat_> this happens every time
[03:45] <simplechat_> it has happened seven times now
[03:45] <simplechat_> in that exact sequence
[03:45] <ikonia> simplechat_ and do you check the disk each time
[03:45] <simplechat_> with what?
[03:45] <simplechat_> ubuntu checks on startup each time
[03:46] <ikonia> simplechat_ check the windows disk with the windows install cd
[03:46] <simplechat_> and on its first startup it always finds a single problem with the disk, which it fixes
[03:46] <ikonia> scan disk, defrag etc
[03:46] <ikonia> simplechat_ as you can see, the ubuntu file system has corruption, so what makes you think the windows file system doesn't too ?
[03:46] <simplechat_> ikonia: what would cause it to suddenly corrupt?
[03:46] <magnetron> simplechat_: it sounds like your hard drive is damaged
[03:46] <ikonia> magnetron messing around with disks and partitions
[03:46] <simplechat_> magnetron: how would i test it?
[03:46] <ikonia> oops
[03:47] <darkchr0n0s> fcsk ?
[03:47] <WippoZippo> spinrite is a good program for testing your hd I suppse
[03:47] <ikonia> simplechat_ messing around with disks and partitions
[03:47] <ikonia> darkchr0n0s don't fsck windows file systems
[03:47] <darkchr0n0s> oh..
[03:47] <simplechat_> ikonia: if i just install ubuntu or just install windows (repartitioning all i want) both work perfectly
[03:47] <simplechat_> no bluescreens, no problems with corruption
[03:47] <ikonia> simplechat_ what part of my comment ar eyou not hearing. Having both on messes around with the disk layout and could be causing corruption. Fix it
[03:48] <simplechat_> at the moment neither boots
[03:48] <simplechat_> so i'm on a livecd now, ubuntu
[03:48] <simplechat_> what should i do?
[03:48] <simplechat_> neither disk is mounted
[03:48] <simplechat_> *partition
[03:48] <ikonia> simplechat_ I'll say one more time before I put you on ignore. Boot from the windows install cd, scan disk it, defrag it a few times
[03:48] <Davy_Jones> you was able to boot from the livecd?
[03:48] <Davy_Jones> that's an achievement
[03:48] <magnetron> simplechat_: if you hard drive is damaged, you'll need a new one
[03:49] <simplechat_> magnetron: how to i check that its damaged?
[03:49] <LjL> vlt: not easily
[03:49] <LjL> !install > vlt    (vlt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:49] <darkchr0n0s> suggest something for this problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39450/
[03:49] <magnetron> simplechat_: listen to ikonia, he has told you several times
[03:49] <simplechat_> boot cd is running now
[03:49] <simplechat_> should be up in a few minutes
[03:49] <Zombie> Does Ubuntu have a
[03:49] <magnetron> !enter | simplechat_
[03:49] <ubotu> simplechat_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:50] <Zombie> like a Firewall Log parser?
[03:50] <ikonia> Zombie check out ulogd
[03:50] <darkchr0n0s> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39450/ ... <-- hard disk partitions :(
[03:50] <magnetron> !repeat | darkchr0n0s
[03:50] <ubotu> darkchr0n0s: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:50] <K4U> err, is there some program like xconfig or some sort?
[03:50] <Zombie> How do I monitor it?
[03:51] <darkchr0n0s> magnetron : hey i changed the strings!
[03:51] <ikonia> Zombie check out ulogd - it logs firewall output based on your rules and can store them in ldap/mysql/falt file and you can use front ends to read them
[03:51] <aat1> hey does anyone know how to get support for nokia phones particularly the n72, under ubuntu feisty?
[03:52] <ikonia> aat1 define support, what do you want to do with it. Gnokii will allow you to do basic functions, phone book sync etc
[03:52] <jimmacdonald> How does one go about making a link from one file (or directory) to another in Ubuntu, "link <file1> <file2>" doesn't seem to work.
[03:52] <ikonia> jimmacdonald ln
[03:52] <aat1> umm how about transferring files along with sms, phonebook backup
[03:52] <ikonia> aat1 gnokii is your bet
[03:52] <ikonia> jimmacdonald ln -s link target
[03:53] <simplechat_> ikonia: chkdks "The volume appears to contain one or more unrecoverable problems"
[03:53] <aat1> awesome thanks for support ikonia
[03:53] <magnetron> aat1: what does the n72 support? USB storage mode? bluetooth?
[03:53] <ikonia> jimmacdonald: man ln
[03:53] <ikonia> simplechat_ there you go then
[03:53] <simplechat_> ikonia: so the disk is faulty, or what can i do to it?
[03:53] <generalsnus> heyas, ive downloaded the 7.10 iso.. could it be problematic to uppgrade/update this to the release version that is soon comming?
[03:53] <aat1> magnetron, it supports both, but i dont have usb
[03:53] <WippoZippo> hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem.  I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :)
[03:53] <aat1> i mean i dont have blutooth
[03:53] <ikonia> simplechat_ disk could be faulty, in my opinion most likly file system corrupted
[03:54] <magnetron> aat1: well if both your pc and phone supports usb, connect them
[03:54] <DaBeowulf> Okay how come after every reboot I've got to 'sudo modprobe nvidia' to get X starting again?
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus maybe
[03:54] <ikonia> DaBeowulf necause the module is not being loaded at start up. Check the syslog or dmesg for why
[03:54] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: put nvidia in /etc/modules
[03:54] <simplechat_> ikonia: so what should i do?
[03:54] <generalsnus> ikonia: how so?
[03:54] <aat1> yeah but i dont have any software to sync etc. with. plus i dont want to mess up my phone in the process
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus packages change
[03:54] <aat1> but thanks to ikonia i'll try gnokii
[03:54] <ikonia> generalsnus its in beta
[03:55] <magnetron> aat1: if it
[03:55] <Alloos1> hi guys
[03:55] <ikonia> simplechat_ partition your disk now. Install windows, then install ubuntu
[03:55] <Alloos1> how do I start psql
[03:55] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: sudo sh -c "echo nvidia >> /etc/modules" for example or with any editor
[03:55] <magnetron> aat1: if it's a regular USB storage device, as you said it is, the just copy the files
[03:55] <ikonia> Alloos1 /etc/init.d/postgress start
[03:55] <Tarkus> heguru, thanks alot. gnomebaker worked perfectly
[03:55] <simplechat_> ikonia: partition using fdisk? or windows installer?
[03:55] <simplechat_> the cd doesn't have fdisk
[03:55] <simplechat_> it has fixmbr and format
[03:56] <ikonia> simplechat_ I suggest partition using the ubuntu live cd. Set aside space for windows and space for ubuntu, then allow the windows installer to format ONLY the partition you set aside for windows
[03:56] <generalsnus> ikonia: so updating/uppgrading to the release could be troublesome.. maybe i just should wait until release with installing ubuntu then
[03:56] <delfick> hello, does anyone know if it's possible to turn a usb into an iso, so that if i make changes to it (including changes to partitions) then to change back, all i have to do is burn the iso onto it ?? :D
[03:56] <simplechat_> ikonia: ok
[03:56] <aat1> you have a point, but even in windows, it doesnt show up as a usb device.. special drivers are reqd. so i was just wondering what options i had
[03:56] <Alloos1> ikonia: its started, I want to start the psql
[03:56] <ikonia> generalsnus sounds reasonable
[03:56] <simplechat_> i'll do it in the morning, its midnight here
[03:56] <ikonia> delfick usb is a connector
[03:56] <delfick> i take that as a no?
[03:56] <delfick> :)
[03:56] <tyler_d> whats the best way to mount a vista share?
[03:56] <ikonia> Alloos1 the what ?
[03:56] <ikonia> tyler_d samba/cifs
[03:57] <Alloos1> psql I mean how to I log myself in
[03:57] <tyler_d> ikonia: I have cifs installed and configured.... except for one permission denied error?
[03:57] <ikonia> Alloos1 its clled psgl isn't it
[03:57] <ikonia> tyler_d at what point
[03:57] <generalsnus> maybe im a lil lazy, 7.10 is due to release on the 7th this month..right?
[03:57] <DoYouKnow> ok, so I installed gstreamer plugins and libdvdread3. DVDs still won't play
[03:57] <Alloos1> ikonia: no its not
[03:57] <erUSUL> generalsnus: www.ubuntu.com
[03:58] <Alloos1> its psql
[03:58] <ikonia> generalsnu 18th
[03:58] <tyler_d> ikonia: echo "/cifs    /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master
[03:58] <DoYouKnow> hmmm
[03:58] <ikonia> Alloos1 ok - so type psql
[03:58] <erUSUL> !dvd > DoYouKnow
[03:58] <WippoZippo>  hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem.  I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :)
[03:58] <delfick> ikonia: would there be a way of creating a single file type backup of the usb (including partitons and such :D) .... ?? or should I give up searching for such a thing ??
[03:58] <ikonia> delfick dd would work as a block level backup
[03:59] <heguru> WippoZippo: did you try pci=nomsi (for SATA drives mostly)
[03:59] <delfick> k then, will look into that, thankyou
[03:59] <delfick> cya
[03:59] <WippoZippo> not yet, I'll give it a try
[03:59] <jimmacdonald> Ok so I am trying to do
[03:59] <WippoZippo> so just add it after the F6 .. ?
[03:59] <Alloos1> did, the problem is that, it take the user name I use for my machine as a database name, so I will need a comand to tell it to connect to the databases that are there
[03:59] <heguru> WippoZippo: F6? well you add it to the kernel line by entering grub menu (pressing ESC) on boot
[04:00] <WippoZippo> sorry, I'm a noob with linux, the grub menu?
[04:00] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, psql dbasename -Uusername from memory
[04:00] <jimmacdonald> Ok so I am trying to do "ln /home/<user1>/pictures /home/<user2>/pictures and keep getting " Too many levels of symbolic links"
[04:00] <WippoZippo> I'll just try pressing esc when booting up, ^^
[04:00] <K4U> !grub | wippozippo
[04:00] <ubotu> wippozippo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:00] <WippoZippo> thankyou.
[04:00] <heguru> WippoZippo: I think on the LiveCD it is F6, well at the same place where you added acpi=off
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> hey noob
[04:01] <ts_> I'm dd'ing my hard disk, and it gets to 2GB but then says 'File size limit exceeded (core dumped)'... The HD is 20gb. How do I fix this? Thanks
[04:01] <Davy_Jones> :P
[04:01] <al> While I'm here, does anyone have any clues about Flash sound?
[04:01] <tyler_d> ikonia: did you catch that?echo "/cifs    /etc/auto.cifs --timeout=60" >>/etc/auto.master gives perm denied error
[04:01] <al> I've tried all the things Google came up with.
[04:01] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: thanks, how would tha comand look like with a password?
[04:01] <greedo> how can i upgrade gcc on feisty ?
[04:01] <WippoZippo> heguru, yeah I did it through the live cd. I'll end it at the end of the line. after I red the grubhowto ^^ :)
[04:01] <heguru> ts_: are you dd'ing it to a FAT partition?
[04:01] <soundray> ts_: you have to write the file to a file system that supports files larger than 2GB, e.g. ext3
[04:01] <ikonia> tyler_d why are you using automounter
[04:01] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, or try psql --help or man psql if it requires pword it should ask for it
[04:01] <K4U> What do you think is better? Beryl or Compiz-Fusion?
[04:02] <al> K4U: beryl :>
[04:02] <ikonia> K4U: compiz fusion is current and supported
[04:02] <Davy_Jones> Compiz-fusion of course
[04:02] <al> But it doesn't do anything cool :(
[04:02] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: which of the two already exist? (user2 or user1 ?) are you sure you need a hard link? it is better a soft one (ln -s ...  )
[04:02] <K4U> Now what is the difference between those 2?
[04:02] <greedo> aren't beryl and compiz fusion supposed to join ?
[04:02] <ikonia> K4U: read the wesites
[04:02] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: yes, it should ask for it, but its not asking, just fails
[04:02] <Davy_Jones> it does better things than beryl
[04:02] <ikonia> greedo: beryl + compiz = compiz fusion
[04:02] <al> My Beryl has a Compiz option that doesn't work...
[04:02] <greedo> yeah that's what i thought
[04:02] <vmlinuz`> is it bad to make 3d desktop compiz when playing games?
[04:02] <ts_> soundray:  i was dding to a NTFS
[04:02] <tyler_d> ikonia: followed a walkthrough?
[04:02] <K4U> ikonia: Yeah, i know:P just wanna know if my cube is still supoorted and also the effects
[04:02] <jimmacdonald> they both exist, and I can use a soft link with no problems.
[04:03] <heguru> Alloos1: psql -U postgres
[04:03] <tyler_d> ikonia: bad Idea?
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> !beryl
[04:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:03] <soundray> ts_: dd to an ext3 instead
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: seems over kill
[04:03] <heguru> Alloos1: without any password
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> !compiz-fusion
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:03] <greedo> how can i upgrade gcc on feisty ? i would like to upgrade to 4.2.1
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: automounter requires additional auth
[04:03] <tyler_d> ikonia: so what should be done?
[04:03] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, have u set up the dbase to start with?
[04:03] <ikonia> greedo: is the 4.2.1 package available
[04:03] <Davy_Jones> vmlinuz`: i usually turn them off before playing a game
[04:03] <erUSUL> jimmacdonald: ln -s /home/<user2>/pictures /home/<user1>/pictures will create the file /home/<user2>/pictures which is a simb link to the (i guess folder) /home/<user1>/pictures
[04:03] <ikonia> tyler_d: try mounting it with the "mount" command first
[04:03] <nickren> can someone help me real quick setup XGL
[04:03] <greedo> ikonia: no that's why i'm asking :D
[04:03] <Alloos1> Tasmaniac: I did, I created a db in phppgadmin
[04:03] <nickren> haveing some trouble
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren xgl is in fesity
[04:04] <erUSUL> !effects | nickren
[04:04] <ubotu> nickren: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <ikonia> greedo then it is best not to do it
[04:04] <nickren> there is never anyone in that channel'
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren there is
[04:04] <nickren> can someone help me here
[04:04] <ikonia> nickren 1.) xgl is in fesity 2.) you've got he support channel 'ubuntu-effects for detailed questions
[04:04] <jimmacdonald> erUSUL no it won't... I keep getting that error.
[04:04] <Pici> !away > minimec-afk (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[04:05] <soundray> greedo: upgrading to gutsy is the easiest option
[04:05] <greedo> ok so i'll wait a bit
[04:05] <aat1> !away | aata
[04:05] <ubotu> aata: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:05] <ikonia> greedo any special reason you want that version of gcc
[04:06] <nickren> see nobody is in that channel
[04:06] <soundray> greedo: if you're brave enough to try gcc 4.2.1, you should be brave enough to test the gutsy beta...
[04:06] <nickren> oh wait
[04:06] <ikonia> nickren not at this exact moment, so sit tight
[04:06] <nickren> maybe someone is not afk
[04:06] <aat1> anybody here from pakistan?
[04:07] <greedo> soundray: gutsy beta borked my xorg on my other box, and i did not have the time to fix it yet :)
[04:07] <ikonia> !offtopic >aat1
[04:07] <DaBeowulf> Theres no modules folder in etc (Xubuntu Feisty Fawn)
[04:07] <Kee1> does anyone know of a good mp3 player for ubuntu that has dsp or at least 5.1 support?
[04:07] <soundray> DaBeowulf: what exactly are you looking for?
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: its a file /etc/modules
[04:08] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, I cant remember off-hand and have got the unix box handy to check. It might your config files tho. trusting local connections
[04:08] <DaBeowulf> A way to stop me having to 'modprobe nvidia' each time that I reboot for X to start up with the nvidia-glx-new
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: just edit it by typing: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[04:08] <heguru> DaBeowulf: and at the end of the file add: nvidia
[04:09] <soundray> DaBeowulf: 'echo nvidia | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[04:09] <DaBeowulf> But there's no 'modules' to edit in /etc
[04:09] <soundray> DaBeowulf: so create it
[04:09] <aat1> ikonia, whats that nokia package called again?
[04:09] <genii> gnokii
[04:09] <ikonia> aat1 gnokii
[04:09] <soundray> gnokii?
[04:09] <amro> how to use tar with " -d, --diff, --compare"?
[04:09] <aat1> thanks :D
[04:10] <DaBeowulf> a plain file into which I type 'nividia'?
[04:10] <soundray> DaBeowulf: no, 'nvidia'
[04:10] <DaBeowulf> yes sorry about that
[04:10] <soundray> DaBeowulf: or use the command above
[04:11] <soundray> DaBeowulf: 'echo nvidia | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[04:11] <Jeruvy> any evolution xperts around?  I'm trying to get bogofilter working with this but atm it's dumping all my mail into the junk folder and ignoring my rules and filter.
[04:11] <bieb> I need to be able to see the size of subdirectories in a df command..ie, I know /home has 58% usage, but I need to know the folders under home and their size
[04:11] <Tasmaniac> Alloos1, but you should be able to get the command structure with psql --help from memory
[04:11] <soundray> bieb: 'sudo du -s /home/*'
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> hmm there's fuse and lp in there now, too
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> Did I overlook that file than?
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> *then
[04:12] <soundray> DaBeowulf: see, you had it before.
[04:12] <DaBeowulf> Okay thanks I've gotta try that now.
[04:12] <amro> how to use tar with " -d, --diff, --compare"?
[04:13] <inoex135> is there someone ever write parallel port driver?
[04:13] <tyler_d> ikonia: error on mount, wrong fs type
[04:13] <nickren> wait your now the beowulf are, the grower??
[04:13] <inoex135> i got trouble when i write :(
[04:13] <Carry> 04:06:08 [freenode]  Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)
[04:13] <soundray> amro: you don't seem to be getting a reply -- have you read man tar ?
[04:13] <ikonia> tyler_d show me the command your using
[04:13] <Carry> 04:06:08 [freenode]  DCC SEND from anony [0.0.0.0 port 0] : startkeylogger [0B bytes]  requested in channel #ubuntu
[04:13] <Carry> 04:11:09 [freenode]  DCC aborted receiving file startkeylogger from anony
[04:13] <bieb> soundray... thanks
[04:13] <Carry> ^^^^ to moderators...
[04:13] <tyler_d> ikonia: sudo smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=username,password=password
[04:13] <LjL> Carry: please never do that again
[04:13] <Carry> LjL: sorry...
[04:13] <amro>  soundray,yes , I readed it
[04:13] <LjL> Carry: you might get banned automatically. when did that happen anyway?
[04:13] <amro>  soundray, but I can not understand
[04:14] <Carry> LjL: moment..
[04:14] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - so lets try "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=blah //servername/sharename /mountdirectory
[04:14] <Carry> LjL: last night..
[04:14] <tyler_d> ikonia: ok
[04:14] <LjL> Carry: ah. it happens often enough
[04:14] <amro>  soundray,can U give me an example about it ?
[04:14] <neopsyche> hi, i want to set up a second hard drive on my ubuntu machine..
[04:15] <Carry> LjL: they pick nicks? or random/all?
[04:15] <soundray> amro: no, I haven't used those options.
[04:15] <K4U> help, my control, shift and alt keys are no longer working... what to do/;\
[04:15] <neopsyche> If i plug it in.. will ubuntu auto detect it?
[04:15] <silviu> hello
[04:15] <LjL> Carry: it's usually to the whole channel. in that case, it was.
[04:15] <x-fak> is there a way to make an update of the synaptic package list, (using dapper) ?
[04:15] <amro>  soundray, -_-
[04:15] <silviu> i have windows and ubuntu on the same hdd, diff. partitions. Why can't i resize the partitions?
[04:15] <tyler_d> ikonia: same error
[04:15] <soundray> neopsyche: yes, but it won't mount it. You'll have to partition and format it with gparted, and make entries in fstab for it.
[04:15] <ikonia> tyler_d: change the -t smbfs to -t cifs
[04:16] <soundray> !fstab > neopsyche, please read the private message from ubotu
[04:16] <tyler_d> ikonia: same
[04:16] <WippoZippo> heguru: I tried the pci=nomsi command in the command line after pressing esc. But it didn't work, do you have any other suggestions? thanks
[04:16] <K4U> help... my shift, alt and control keys are not functioning1 how do i re-enable them/
[04:16] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - sudo apt-get install smfbs
[04:16] <neopsyche> thanks soundry.. is there no easy way to plug and play! :-)
[04:16] <ikonia> tyler_d ok - sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:17] <neopsyche> ?
[04:17] <Sajes> Does anyone know why alsa is detecting an inexistant soundcard in my box? o.O;;.. so is lspcia.
[04:17] <tyler_d> ikonia: going
[04:17] <BioPod> Hello everyone
[04:17] <Sajes> and it's unable to play sound either. :[
[04:17] <soundray> neopsyche: no. How is the system supposed to know how you want to use your hard drive?
[04:17] <amro> Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:17] <silviu> any answer to my question? would gparted started on his own bootdisk manage to resize the partitions?
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: done, first command worked
[04:18] <ikonia> tyler_d excellent
[04:18] <K4U> darned, why can't anybody help me/;\
[04:18] <soundray> silviu: probably not. Better start a live CD and run it from there.
[04:18] <BioPod> anyone with exprience with setting up a rt61 wifi pci card?
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: to make perm just add to fstab?
[04:18] <ikonia> tyler_d spot on
[04:18] <soundray> BioPod: yes
[04:18] <tyler_d> ikonia: perfect, thank-you for your assistance :)
[04:18] <K4U> how do i restart x server/
[04:18] <silviu> soundray: i want to resize the partitions with the SO's on them, not resintall XP and Ubu ntu all over again
[04:18] <BioPod> soundray: and did you managed to get it runing?
[04:19] <ikonia> tyler_d welcome
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[04:19] <tyler_d> K4U: alt ctrl backspace
[04:19] <K4U> soundray; doesn't work...
[04:19] <soundray> BioPod: yes, but it was fairly involved
[04:19] <BioPod> :)
[04:19] <amro>  Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:19] <ikonia> amro stop asking every 30 seconds
[04:19] <kyja> how come gparted reports I have a 92.14 GB partition. However ! 68.5 GB of it only seems usable with 19.3 GB data on it and 49.3 GB free. so where is the difference of 92.14 GB and the 68.5 GB !! thats a 23.64 GB difference !
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[04:19] <BioPod> soundray: farily involved? meaning it was very complicated?
[04:19] <IanLiu> I CD to a folder, but when I get there, If I $ ls, all files are shown, but If I try to execute a file, It doesn't finds it...
[04:19] <soundray> K4U: if it doesn't restart, log in on the text console and run 'sudo invoke-rc.d start'
[04:20] <soundray> BioPod: you will have it a bit easier, because I can tell you what to do.
[04:20] <skitzor> can someone help me with drivers?
[04:20] <ikonia>  how are you trying to execute
[04:20] <K4U> it tells me missing paramater/
[04:20] <BioPod> soundray: :)
[04:20] <soundray> BioPod: first of all, are you planning to move to gutsy soon?
[04:20] <MasterCheese> kyja: Boot using a LiveCD and run resize2fs on the partition
[04:20] <BioPod> soundray: yea,
[04:21] <kyja> resize2fs ???
[04:21] <BioPod> soundray:  (gusty is the 7.10, right?)
[04:21] <MasterCheese> kyja: It will resize the ext3 filesystem to fill the partition
[04:21] <soundray> BioPod: then it might be worth downloading the beta live CD and see if your card works "out of the box" with it. If it does, it's probably not a good use of our time to compile the drivers for it now.
[04:21] <MasterCheese> Giving you that additional space
[04:21] <Vlet> Anyone know of a way of restarting firefox while preserving your session? Like, if I kill the FF process then start it up again, it'll ask if I want to restore my session... Is there a more graceful way to do it?
[04:21] <MasterCheese> I had the same problem a while ago
[04:22] <kyja> thx MasterCheese !!
[04:22] <MasterCheese> No problem
[04:22] <soundray> BioPod: yes, Gutsy Gibbon = Ubuntu 7.10
[04:22] <DaBeowulf> Does not work. Maybe I should have said that I modprobe to remove the module all the time?
[04:22] <BioPod> soundray: ok, i'll give it a try then. wouldnt want to waste your time (and mine)
[04:22] <BioPod> how stable is it? gusty beta.
[04:22] <soundray> DaBeowulf: yes, inserting and removing makes a big difference
[04:23] <silviu> Vlet: Firefox has an extension which does exactly that, restores the previous sites/tabs before exit
[04:23] <Pici> BioPod: There are still problems.
[04:23] <milosz> hello
[04:23] <soundray> BioPod: by definition it's not stable yet -- I download quite a lot of updates every day.
[04:23] <Kr0ntab> BioPod, its still Beta... but pretty stable right now...  release only a couple weeks away...
[04:23] <milosz> am i here ?
[04:23] <DaBeowulf> So anyway to automate that this easy?
[04:23] <soundray> DaBeowulf: remove the entry from /etc/modules again and follow ubotu's advice on blacklisting (private message)
[04:23] <soundray> !blacklist > DaBeowulf
[04:23] <Vlet> silviu: ahh, I'll go look it up - just thought there might have been a built-in key cmd or something :)
[04:23] <BioPod> I'm actually a fan of Kubutnu... any feedback on it?
[04:24] <DaBeowulf> Thanks a lot I#ll give that a try then.
[04:24] <soundray> BioPod: you can download a Kubuntu Desktop CD to test your rt61 just as easily.
[04:25] <soundray> BioPod: to continue this discussion, please join #ubuntu+1, as gutsy is offtopic here.
[04:26] <amro>  Have anyone know about "tar -d --diff --compare"?
[04:27] <nickren> can someone here please help me setup xgl, everyone in ubuntu-efffects are AFK
[04:27] <erUSUL> amro: what is the specific question? i didn't know about but i read the man page and it seems a helpfull nifty feature so? what's the problem again?
[04:27] <nickren> is setup xgl using this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[04:28] <DaBeowulf> How can I lookup the creation date/time of a file? >_<
[04:28] <nickren> but when i try to start the xgl session i get "error, no exec line in sessions.xgl
[04:28] <DaBeowulf> and maybe the edit time?
[04:28] <ikonia> nickren what part of "its support in #ubuntu-effects" is not clear ?
[04:29] <nickren> everyone is AFK, and don't feel like sitting in front of a blank screen for 9 hours
[04:29] <ikonia> nickren this is not the appropriate place to get support
[04:29] <amro> erUSUL, the man page said " find differences between archive and file system
[04:29] <amro> " but I still not know how to "compare files"with "tar -d"
[04:29] <erUSUL> DaBeowulf: ls -l (with -c for creation time)
[04:29] <ikonia> nickren your other options are to log a launchpad bug or request on the forum
[04:29] <DaBeowulf> Thanks a lot
[04:30] <nickren> its general ubuntu support in here
[04:30] <ikonia> read the topic
[04:30] <npnuf1> here is a problem, when opening help files, It is showing the html source code. which files are corrupted or what should i reinstall.
[04:30] <npnuf1> running feisty fawn.
[04:30] <nickren> you could just help me real quick and i'll be gone
[04:31] <robertj> whats the default expo hotkey in gutsy?
[04:31] <Vlet> npnuf1: Right click on one of the files anc select 'Properties', then select the 'Open With' tab, and change the option to Firefox
[04:32] <Vlet> nickren: If you get no answer, that usually means no one knows the answer.
[04:32] <npnuf1> Viet; they seem to be compiled html files.
[04:32] <ikonia> nickren nope, best to wait in #ubuntu-effects, more so as xgl is already configured in fesity and you just have to enable "desktop effects"
[04:32] <Vlet> npnuf1: ahh... I think you need a separate app for that...
[04:32] <BioPod> alright.
[04:32] <npnuf1> for example when I wanted to view the help from pgadmin it is happening.
[04:32] <npnuf1> it is happening for many other apps also.
[04:32] <Vlet> npnuf1: are they CHM files?
[04:32] <nickren> use but i'm trying to get XGL to run using the restricted ATI drivers
[04:33] <nickren> yes*
[04:33] <npnuf1> I had reinstalled xchm.
[04:33] <ikonia> !ati >nickren
[04:33] <npnuf1> I don't think it is a chm.
[04:33] <ikonia> j-rockj-rock trailer park ?
[04:33] <Vlet> npnuf1: Ahh... maybe try gnochm
[04:33] <tyler_d> creating a mount folder? should be in /mnt/ and options set to 775 right?
[04:33] <j-rock> ikonia: you know it, rocpile
[04:33] <npnuf1> Viet; will try that one.
[04:33] <nickren> the drivers are installed but you need to configure xgl to use them
[04:34] <nickren> thats the problem i am having
[04:34] <dabaR> tyler_d: what are you mounting?
[04:34] <nickren> i use this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[04:34] <tyler_d> dadaR: a network share
[04:34] <ikonia> nickren #ubuntu-effects
[04:34] <Vlet> npnuf1: Where are the help files located for pgadmin? I have it installed too... I'll see how mine is set.
[04:34] <dabaR> tyler_d: well, you could do /mnt. Really, you can mount anywhere...
[04:34] <ikonia> j-rock is "conky" an app your working on  ?
[04:35] <j-rock> ikonia: yessir, conky.sf.net
[04:35] <ikonia> thank you
[04:35] <dabaR> tyler_d: permissions should also be whatever you need...
[04:35] <tyler_d> dadaR: read write create
[04:35] <nickren> ikonia how about you join ubuntu-effects and help me
[04:35] <generalsnus> jeez, dont think i have the patience to wait 15 days for the 7.10 release.. is the beta stable enough for regular use atm? or is it full of bugs?
[04:35] <tyler_d> dadaR: error on opening from computer is mount: only root can mount
[04:35] <npnuf1> Viet; don't have an idea.
[04:36] <ikonia> j-rock: that looks good. Book marked
[04:36] <ikonia> nickren no
[04:36] <npnuf1> I don't think that's a problem pgadmin or it's files.
[04:36] <DaBeowulf> \o/ It seems it _was_ blacklisted and since I removed that it seems to work fine.
[04:36] <nickren> ikonia: hoe
[04:36] <trogdor> anyone here use wubi?
[04:36] <Vlet> npnuf1: Well, how are you opening them? through the help menu of pgadmin?
[04:36] <ikonia> trogdor its not supported in here
[04:36] <live> hello
[04:36] <glw119> ??
[04:36] <npnuf1> yes through help menu.
[04:36] <DaBeowulf> You can be very proud you helped (X)ubuntu stay the OS of another dumb end-user. ;)
[04:37] <trogdor> ikonia: why is that? what is difference?
[04:37] <npnuf1> may be some files of the html engine is corrupted.
[04:37] <Pici> !zh | glw119
[04:37] <ubotu> glw119: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:38] <Vlet> glw119: #ubuntu-cn
[04:38] <ikonia>  not a ubuntu product
[04:38] <glw119> hehe,thank all of u!~
[04:38] <Jaymac> generalsnus, the beta is quite stable, but unless you're prepared to have things break on you, you'd be better off sticking with Feisty for the next couple of weeks.  For more information, see #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:38] <trogdor> ikonia: neither is stuff in ubuntu repository...
[04:38] <ikonia> trogdor: ubuntu packaged/supported
[04:38] <trogdor> ikonia: I'm looking at physical characteristics
[04:39] <trogdor> ikonia: neither are cds I burn ubuntu to..
[04:39] <ikonia> trogdor: you know what I'm saying though, no-one in the ubuntu team developed it as an installer, same stance on automatix
[04:39] <trogdor> automatix has several ways of breaking your system
[04:40] <switched> how do I know if last is working correctly?
[04:40] <trogdor> after wubi is done doing its stuff what makes it different from a normal ubuntu dual boot?
[04:40] <switched> i see no entries in it, but I think it sounds right, no one else should be logging into my machine
[04:40] <tyler_d> modify fstab to allow non root to mount network drives?
[04:40] <ikonia> trogdor I think its more people don't know if it installs the same way as a cd, and its development path is unknown so the ubuntu community don't support it
[04:40] <switched> er, the screensaver password doesn't create an entry in wtmp right?
[04:40] <ikonia> switched shouldn't do
[04:40] <robertj> what is the expo key for grumpy?
[04:40] <ikonia> switched wtmp is for login only
[04:40] <ikonia> robertj grumpy ?
[04:41] <Jaymac> trogdor, for Wubi support try: http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[04:41] <ikonia> robertj gusty ?
[04:41] <robertj> err gutsy
[04:41] <robertj> sorry
[04:41] <trogdor> ikonia: everything's development path is kinda unknown...
[04:41] <robertj> stupid groundhog
[04:41] <trogdor> Jaymac: yeah I was reading over that, I guess I'll try it myself
[04:41] <Pici> robertj: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[04:41] <switched> god i think i'm just being paranoid then lol
[04:41] <ubernerdmandog> Any way to get 8.41.7 drivers to work with xserver 1.4.0 ?
[04:41] <IanLiu> I am trying to execute a script with sudo ./build_plugin, but It returns sudo: ./build_plugin: command not found. What does that means?
[04:42] <ikonia> ubernerdmandog a colleguge of mine has been trying for a few days now with little sucess
[04:42] <LjL> IanLiu: perhaps it's not +x?
[04:42] <ikonia> IanLiu: its not in the same dir or not executable
[04:42] <BioPod> soundray: can I steal a few minutes of you to explain guide me through the rt61 thing without diving into the beta world?
[04:43] <genii> IanLiu: It means it does not know what program to use to run the script..eg: bash,perl,php etc
[04:43] <IanLiu> the problem is that I can see the file with natulilus, but in terminal I cant autocomplete it with<TAB> key
[04:43] <dabaR> IanLiu: use cd
[04:43] <IanLiu> I CD to the folder
[04:43] <Gr4ck> i create backup partition on ubuntu, but can't write. anyone help me?
[04:43] <IanLiu> I ls and see the file
[04:43] <IanLiu> BUT, I doesnt autocomplete with TAB
[04:43] <dabaR> IanLiu: OK, then try chmod +x filename
[04:43] <IanLiu> ok
[04:44] <generalsnus> jeez, dont think i have the patience to wait 15 days for the 7.10 release.. is the beta stable enough for regular use atm? or is it full of bugs?
[04:44] <genii> IanLiu: Put as first line in script something like:    #!/thepath/to/the/sh          <--- or whatever runs the script
[04:44] <Pici> generalsnus: Its buggy. I would wait if I was you.
[04:44] <IanLiu> it has #!/bin/bash
[04:44] <pulz0r> anyone that can recommend me a bittorentclient?
[04:44] <IanLiu> I will try chmod
[04:44] <erUSUL> genii: the error is ./build_plugin: command not found not /bin/sh command not found
[04:44] <Shapeshifter> Hi, how can I get the gnome copying dialog to show me the transfer speed?
[04:45] <Shapeshifter> pulz0r: Azureus
[04:45] <magnetron> pulz0r: use the standard in ubuntu, or deluge
[04:45] <magnetron> !deluge | pulz0r
[04:45] <ubotu> pulz0r: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[04:45] <pulz0r> I tried Ktorrent, wich crashed, Azureus, wich didnt work anymore when I run fluxbox
[04:45] <pulz0r> :)
[04:45] <erUSUL> genii: so bash does not find the actual file . It is not a probelm of not finding the apropiate interpreter
[04:45] <pulz0r> thx ubotu
[04:45] <pulz0r> or eh
[04:45] <IanLiu> okkk, Now it completes with TAB =)
[04:45] <pulz0r> XD
[04:45] <pulz0r> thx magnetron
[04:45] <IanLiu> Works! Thanks!
[04:45] <magnetron> np pulz0r
[04:46] <pulz0r> let me try that
[04:46] <Cusoon959> How can I stop bcm43xx (the module) from loading at startup and then add ndiswrapper to the startup?
[04:46] <faust_> heh.. Deluge is remarkably similar to Torrent :D
[04:46] <erUSUL> genii: all this guessing that it's a script file as it may be well a binary (elf executable file)
[04:46] <faust_> Or.. to how Torrent used to be.
[04:46] <dabaR> Cusoon959: does lsmod |grep bcm show the module?
[04:47] <switched> how did you type in ""?
[04:47] <Cusoon959> not anymore, because I manually rmmodded it. But it shows up on startup.
[04:47] <Shapeshifter> Hi, how can I get the gnome copying dialog to show me the transfer speed? And does anybody know a substitute for Maple for linux?
[04:47] <switched> oh i have a character chart in xchat
[04:47] <switched>  but how did you do it?
[04:47] <x-fak> is there a reason why wireshark does not appear on the apt-cache search and synaptic ?
[04:48] <Cusoon959> dabaR: not anymore, because I manually rmmodded it. But it shows up on startup.
[04:48] <erUSUL> !info wireshark | x-fak
[04:48] <ubotu> x-fak: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[04:48] <switched> x-fak: maybe you have to add the corresponding apt-get source
[04:48] <genii> erUSUL: Well, he did say he wrote a script :) (normally for sh I suppose) I would not imagine that bash would find the program, since sudo was issued, eg: sudo ./somescript    instead of something like sudo sh ./somescript    (or similar)
[04:48] <dabaR> Cusoon959: you can try blacklisting it, there is a /etc/blacklist or so.
[04:48] <switched> oh
[04:48] <switched> nevermind
[04:48] <erUSUL> x-fak: you need to enable universe
[04:48] <Cusoon959> dabaR: right...duh...thanks :D
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> yikes... 63 updates to gutsy this mornin...
[04:48] <x-fak> i did generate from the source o matic
[04:48] <dabaR> Cusoon959: you have restarted after rmmod, and it still loads it?
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> busy busy
[04:49] <Cusoon959> dabaR: yes, so I should have to blacklist it
[04:49] <x-fak> and i have the laster source with apt-get update
[04:49] <dabaR> Cusoon959: OK.
[04:49] <x-fak> i should maybe install universe
[04:49] <x-fak> for my dapper
[04:49] <gonzo64> hi! can someone help me with an installation problem on my notebook?
[04:49] <Cusoon959> gotta go
[04:49] <Cusoon959> bbl
[04:50] <tyler_d> could someone take a look at line 11 of my fstab plz... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39452/ error on mount is now mount: can't find /mnt/office3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> ask! > gonzo64
[04:50] <adac> how can i find data on my disk that is more then lets say 10 megabyte of size?
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> oops
[04:50] <dabaR> abaR: right...duh...thanks :D
[04:50] <dabaR> 09:57 < erUSUL> x-fak: you need to enable universe
[04:50] <dabaR> 09:57 < Kr0ntab> yikes... 63 updates to gutsy this mornin...
[04:50] <Shapeshifter> Does anyone know a substitute for maple under linux?
[04:50] <Nalleman> where can I ask questions about compiz-fusion?
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> !ask > gonzo64
[04:50] <Kr0ntab> there ya go  :-P
[04:50] <jrib> Shapeshifter: maple works in linux
[04:50] <Shapeshifter> Nalleman: #compiz-fusion
[04:51] <aat1> hey i know im asking in the wrong place, but can anyone explain the gnokii command syntax to me?
[04:51] <Nalleman> Shapeshifter, good point
[04:51] <gonzo64> okay. every time i start the installation busybox opens and does not continue the installation
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> jrib: Well I have a windows version and I can't seem to install it under wine
[04:51] <dabaR> tyler_d: you have /office3, and talk about /mnt/office3?
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> jrib: so that means I need to get a linux version huh ^^
[04:51] <jrib> Shapeshifter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Maple
[04:51] <Shapeshifter> k thx
[04:51] <dabaR> tyler_d: oh, sorry, no.
[04:51] <tyler_d> dadaR: mounting the vista pc name office3 to /mnt/office3
[04:51] <Blackkatt> i cant get Nvidia driver to work gaahh been on it for two days now
[04:52] <jrib> Shapeshifter: the cd has it
[04:52] <Blackkatt> Nvidia module kernel wrong version
[04:52] <berent> which is the pack which gives me aMule source
[04:52] <berent> !amule
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Shapeshifter> jrib: k thanx I'll check it
[04:52] <tyler_d> dabaR: added the option "user" and got that error after reboot.... in an attempt to allow non-root mount
[04:52] <soundray> BioPod: sure... still here?
[04:53] <jrib> Shapeshifter: octave and maxima for FOSS apps
[04:53] <dabaR> tyler_d: did you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473 ?
[04:53] <Blackkatt> i cant get Nvidia driver to work gaahh been on it for two days now some help plz :)
[04:53] <Shapeshifter> jrib: I guess they don't use the same syntax as maple
[04:53] <Shapeshifter> jrib: do they?
[04:53] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, which nvidia driver you installing... glx, glx-legacy... glx-new ?
[04:53] <profanephobia> i need to send faxes from a ubuntu server using email
[04:54] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  i have tryed them all, but its the newest driver form Nvidias site
[04:54] <jrib> Shapeshifter: not exactly
[04:54] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: wxMaxima is a really nice front end for maxima (or you can use it from emacs )
[04:54] <Blackkatt> Nvidia module kernel wrong version
[04:54] <Blackkatt> when it tryes to start, X
[04:54] <tyler_d> dabaR: ahh, just had it backwards, ty
[04:54] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: octave is more a clon of matlab
[04:55] <Shapeshifter> mhh. too bad, the school want's to use maple and gives us a lot of maple code
[04:55] <tarzeau> Blackkatt: i just use http://debian.ethz.ch/d-i/nvidia-driver
[04:55] <Kr0ntab> ahh.. i see... I ran into that in the past while trying several drivers... and what you need to do is purge all nvidia drivers... uninstall the nvidia driver... reboot.. and start anew...
[04:57] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  howto am totally N00b with linux
[04:57] <soundray> BioPod: hello, I'm back
[04:57] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: im sure there are linux versions of mapple althought not free (in any english sense of the word ;))
[04:57] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, several commands... I'll PM ya...
[04:58] <Shapeshifter> erUSUL: ^^
[04:58] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  hmm i can see u but u cant see me ?
[04:59] <Kr0ntab> Blackkatt, must register with nickserv
[04:59] <Blackkatt> oh
[04:59] <Blackkatt> one sec
[05:00] <erUSUL> Shapeshifter: ?
[05:00] <stroyan> adac:  Use find.    find directory -size +10M
[05:01] <Pici> adac: If you're just looking for big files, you can use baobab, the disk-usage-analyzer in gnome.
[05:01] <adac> stroyan: thx!
[05:01] <CarlFK> what is the command to generate ssh hosts keys? (the ones found in /etc/ssh)
[05:01] <adac> Pici: is this command line tool?
[05:01] <adac> guess not
[05:02] <Pici> adac: nope
[05:02] <erUSUL> !pm | x-fak
[05:02] <ubotu> x-fak: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:02] <dabaR> CarlFK: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto ?
[05:02] <soundray> CarlFK: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server'
[05:02] <porkpie> hi guys where do I need to check what well start automatically on a reboot
[05:02] <Pici> CarlFK: I *think* its `gpg --gen-key` but check the manpages
[05:03] <CarlFK> soundray: close, but I am in the installer.  pretty sure it is ssh-keygen --something
[05:03] <federicomattes> Hello, can anybody help me with a sound problem in ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:03] <soundray> CarlFK: the postinst script definitely does it. Have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst
[05:04] <genii> porkpie: System-wide things that are starting or just apps for the specific user?
[05:04] <soundray> !sound > federicomattes, please read the private message from ubotu
[05:04] <Vlet> Anyone know how to use the win key as a modifier in the keyboard shortcuts?
[05:04] <x-fak> sorry erUSUL i thought my question was so dumb that i found it was better to ask in pm
[05:04] <soundray> !bum > porkpie, please read the private message from ubotu
[05:05] <soundray> BioPod: ping
[05:05] <CarlFK> soundray: thanks.  this line look like what I am looking for:  ssh-keygen -q -f "$file" -N '' "$@"
[05:05] <vmlinuz`> I changed to gdm, but when i logoff and go to login window, its same as the kdm..
[05:06] <gonzo64> i have an installation problem on my notebook... everytime i start the installation the kernel loads and then busybox opens and the installation doesn t continue... can someone help me plz???
[05:06] <northstar> I get this error message http://pastebin.com/d1484ca9c when trying to install a kernel i just compiled.  Any ideas?!?
[05:07] <federicomattes> obotu  I have sound, and yes ALSA is selected. But, when I try to open alsamixer I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[05:08] <usr13> ubotu, tell usr13 about bum
[05:11] <gonzo64> HELP!!!!!
[05:11] <DigeratiX> here is the deal, sons puter at home, he is logged in, I am at work logged in via shell, when I added his account it was a simple desktopuser, but now I want him to be able to admin the puter, how do I change that from cli
[05:11] <soundray> !please | gonzo64
[05:11] <ubotu> gonzo64: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[05:11] <soundray> DigeratiX: 'sudo adduser son admin'
[05:12] <DigeratiX> he is already added and stuff, so I still execute that command?
[05:12] <soundray> DigeratiX: after that, make him log out and in again
[05:12] <DigeratiX> ok
[05:12] <soundray> DigeratiX: you still need to add him to the admin group
[05:12] <blue|palm> does ubuntu restrict the amount of half-open tcp connections like windows does?
[05:12] <stroyan> northstar:  The message is "mostly harmless".  Look in the /sbin/update-grub script to see what really happened.
[05:13] <DigeratiX> root@ubuntu:/home/digerati# adduser justin admin
[05:13] <DigeratiX> Adding user `justin' to group `admin' ...
[05:13] <DigeratiX> Done.
[05:13] <DigeratiX> sweet
[05:13] <DigeratiX> thanks
[05:14] <usr13> gonzo64: [Bug 129817]  Re: install fails: busybox (initramfs): can't access tty: (/dev/sda trouble?)
[05:14] <soundray> gonzo64: look at the screen carefully, and see if gives any indication of why it went into busybox mode.
[05:14] <northstar> stroyan: the package wouldn't install... nothing in grub because it didn't install
[05:15] <gonzo64> @soundray there is nothing it loads the kernel and than it turns to busybox
[05:15] <stroyan> northstar:  Oops, wrong error message.
[05:16] <usr13> gonzo64: Can you go to another terminal from there?
[05:16] <gonzo64> no
[05:16] <gonzo64> nothing...
[05:16] <usr13> tty2 or 3,4,5,6,7,8 ?
[05:17] <gonzo64> nothing
[05:17] <porkpie> soundray:these are services like mysql, apache and courier
[05:17] <usr13> gonzo64: 7.10?
[05:17] <soundray> porkpie: so?
[05:17] <gonzo64> yes sir
[05:17] <soundray> gonzo64: #ubuntu+1 please
[05:18] <gonzo64> oh no its 7.04
[05:18] <gonzo64> sry
[05:18] <usr13> gonzo64: Bug 129817
[05:18] <gonzo64> ?Oo
[05:18] <soundray> !bug #129817
[05:18] <incorrect> i have a large network,  what is considered the best monitoring tool these days, other than nagios?
[05:19] <usr13> gonzo64: no, that's a 7.10 bug.
[05:19] <usr13> I don't know about 7.04
[05:19] <soundray> gonzo64: is this fairly recent hardware?
[05:19] <gonzo64> kk
[05:19] <blue|palm> does ubuntu have a firewall by default?
[05:19] <Pelo> incorrect, I've heard ppl talk about wireshark but I don't know anything about it
[05:19] <gonzo64> yes
[05:19] <incorrect> thanks Pelo
[05:19] <soundray> !firewall | blue|palm
[05:19] <ubotu> blue|palm: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:19] <heman> Hello
[05:19] <aat1> can anyone explain the gnokii command syntax to me?
[05:19] <soundray> !hi | heman
[05:20] <ubotu> heman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:20] <aat1> !gnokii | aat1
[05:20] <Pelo> blue|palm, yes but not enabled by default,  it's called netfilter uses  iptables for userspace (cli interface) and you can have gui frontends like firestarter
[05:20] <heman> Does anyone know how I can change the look of the top and bottom menus
[05:20] <soundray> aat1: what, you need someone to read the documentation to you?
[05:20] <blue|palm> soundray, i know but i want to know if its enabled or not by default
[05:20] <usr13> gonzo64: What processor?
[05:20] <heman> so that they are smooth and transparent like on vista but without that theme...
[05:20] <blue|palm> Pelo, ah thanks
[05:20] <soundray> heman: right-click and select properties
[05:20] <usr13> gonzo64: AMD 64?
[05:20] <gonzo64> usr13: intel core 2duo
[05:20] <heman> ok
[05:21] <Pelo> heman,  right click properties,  you can set backgrounds on the last tab,   you can get some from gnome-look.org
[05:21] <heman> cool ok thankyou both of yu
[05:21] <soundray> blue|palm: it is enabled by default, but not configured to block anything.
[05:21] <heman> you*
[05:21] <blue|palm> soundray, thanks
[05:21] <usr13> gonzo64: Well, you might look at the bug page anyway.  Maybe clues there:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129817
[05:21] <}MatriX{> i dont know how to change my mac adress ( on ethernet DHCP )
[05:22] <soundray> }MatriX{: not all drivers support MAC address spoofing.
[05:22] <Pelo> }MatriX{, menu > system > admin > network : select card , properties
[05:22] <Pelo> probably
[05:23] <eyecando> hi,every one
[05:23] <radioman_> hey
[05:23] <heman> how do I get a theme then just for the taskbar's? Like a task bar background theme...
[05:23] <Linuturk> Will a standard debian deb package work on Ubuntu feisty without problems?
[05:23] <soundray> Pelo: not for the MAC address
[05:23] <Pelo> heman,  check in www.gnome-look.org
[05:23] <dabaR> heman: right click on the 'taskbar' and select properties...
[05:23] <dabaR> heman: it is called the gnome-panel, btw.
[05:24] <misreckoning> what kernel image is for AMD Turion X2 processors? amd64 or k7 or i686 ?
[05:24] <heman> pelo-dabar: ok thankyou I'll try that
[05:24] <soundray> }MatriX{: I haven't read this, but see if it helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu.html
[05:25] <vmlinuz`> isn't there "system run" in gnome? Just like the "KDE > run" that kde has in its menu?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> misreckoning, i use amd64 with my turionx2
[05:25] <Pelo> misreckoning, probably amd64 but we tell ppl to use x86 anyway since there is some stuff missing from the amd64 version,  flash, some drivers etc
[05:25] <heman> dabar, pelo: how do I know which themes are just for the taskbar?
[05:25] <dabaR> vmlinuz`: alt+f2
[05:25] <dabaR> heman: do what I told you to do...
[05:25] <misreckoning> Pelo: well I want to use 32bit, so, i386 or k7 then?
[05:25] <soundray> misreckoning: choose amd64 to get the last drop of performance. Choose i386 for better compatibility with certain closed-source applications (skype, Adobe Reader etc.)
[05:25] <haha> nick eyecando
[05:25] <dabaR> heman: the panel can take any picture file and use it as the background.
[05:25] <misreckoning> soundray: interesting opinion :)
[05:26] <Pelo> heman, usualy they are listed as  other sorry it's not realy a category in it's own right ,  or you can probably canibalise something off of a screenshot you like,  just clip the right section with gimp or something
[05:26] <misreckoning> soundray: I think I can have both?
[05:26] <heman> Yes I know but which one should I choose as I would like a transparent one...
[05:26] <Vadi> I have a problem - changed the font from "best shapes" to "subpixel smoothing", and then back to "best shapes", but it's not doing any smoothing now, like it was before. What can I do to reset this?
[05:26] <usr13> }MatriX{: you can do it at the command line:  ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:12:34:56:78
[05:26] <Pelo> misreckoning, i386
[05:26] <misreckoning> and then change them in grub ... right, don't know how good is that
[05:26] <soundray> misreckoning: you can, but it's more work to install 32 bit programs in a amd64 system.
[05:26] <heman> ok thankyou both pelo, dabar :P
[05:26] <o00w> is there a way to change a script icon?
[05:26] <Shapeshifter0000> Q: Which VM software should I use? It's about Windows XP, so Xen wont be a real option.
[05:26] <soundray> misreckoning: I see, you want to dual-boot. That's no problem either
[05:26] <misreckoning> ok thank you everybody
[05:27] <Instabin|Work> how many netowrk connections can ubuntu have open at one time
[05:27] <Pelo> o00w, right click   , properties,  see the icon at the top , click click
[05:27] <soundray> misreckoning: it's probably only worth it if you run numbercrunching apps, like video encoding
[05:27] <usr13> Instabin|Work: lots
[05:27] <Cusoon959> So, what is the correct blacklist file to blacklist bcm43xx? /etc/blacklist or /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[05:27] <o00w> Pelo: ty I kept looking for a tab that had it I didn't think to click the icon
[05:27] <vmlinuz`> yea that one, alt+f2 how do i put it underneath "Applications"
[05:28] <CarlFK> Instabin|Work: lots
[05:28] <soundray> Cusoon959: neither. It's best to add your own file blacklist-bcm43xx
[05:28] <usr13> Instabin|Work: You should ask a more specific question?
[05:28] <Cusoon959> soundray: but I just want to blacklist one module
[05:28] <genii> Cusoon959: /etc/blacklist      pre-empts things from even getting to hotplug
[05:28] <usr13> Instabin|Work: Unless you're really just looking for a number.  Are you?
[05:28] <Cusoon959> ok
[05:28] <soundray> Cusoon959: exactly
[05:28] <Cusoon959> thanks genii :)
[05:28] <genii> Cusoon959: np
[05:28] <soundray> !blacklist | Cusoon959
[05:28] <ubotu> Cusoon959: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[05:29] <Instabin|Work> usr13: Trying to max out the connection.... so is it basicly dependent on the hardware?
[05:29] <Cusoon959> ah
[05:29] <Cusoon959> thanks
[05:29] <stroyan> northstar:  That "failed to write to pipe" error looks like maybe a gunzip ended before data was all read.  Perhaps the archive contains a bad file.  Could creating it have hit a file system full or other limit?
[05:29] <soundray> Cusoon959: well, ubotu seems to be of a different opinion than I...
[05:29] <heman> does anyone here use 7.10 is it worth me upgrading?
[05:29] <Instabin|Work> usr13: windows xp limits the number of active connections you can have.
[05:29] <soundray> heman: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:29] <soundray> heman: and, if you have to ask, the answer is probably no.
[05:30] <genii> heman: Why not wait until after Oct 18th release date to ask?
[05:30] <Cusoon959> so what's the difference between adding it to modprobe.d/blacklist or /etc/blacklist?
[05:30] <Instabin|Work> heman: i have used 7.10 since its been in tribe 3
[05:30] <vmlinuz`> dabaR: how do i put that in applications
[05:30] <genii> Cusoon959: /etc/blacklist will blacklist stuff/modules that the pnp or autoprobing may nor find
[05:30] <Vlet> heman: Unless you're feeling brave, wait until it's released. 15 days.
[05:30] <heman> ok thanks] 
[05:31] <northstar> stroyan: not really sure
[05:31] <heman> how do I change my splash screen
[05:31] <Cusoon959> genii: ah...so which one should i use?
[05:31] <northstar> stroyan: i complied it with initrd - figured i would drop that this time, and compile a lower version of the kernel and see what happens
[05:31] <stefgl> !splash | heman
[05:31] <ubotu> heman: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[05:31] <soundray> heman: which one?
[05:31] <stefgl> !usplash | heman
[05:31] <ubotu> heman: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:31] <Vlet> heman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:32] <elwario91> hello
[05:32] <soundray> !hi | elwario91
[05:32] <ubotu> elwario91: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:32] <usr13> Instabin|Work: I don't think we have a limut with Linux.
[05:32] <genii> Cusoon959: I generally just use /etc/blacklist without problems. but if it's something being autodetected that is causing the issue, perhaps try /etc/modprobe.d
[05:32] <heman> ahhh thanks for your help people but im confused, I don't understand all this sudo-apt stuff
[05:32] <Cusoon959> ok
[05:32] <elwario91> I've removed openoffice and would like to reinstall it from the cd, how can i do?
[05:32] <Cusoon959> thanks genii
[05:32] <elwario91> without internet, the old version on the cd?
[05:32] <heman> Sorry to be a pain but i've just moved from windows
[05:32] <Cusoon959> so can I just add the line "blacklist bcm43xx" to /etc/blacklist?
[05:32] <genii> Cusoon959: np
[05:32] <soundray> heman: look at the private messages from ubotu
[05:32] <Vlet> heman: no, it's fine :)
[05:32] <Cusoon959> genii
[05:32] <soundray> !sudo > heman
[05:32] <soundray> !faq > heman
[05:33] <arnath> hi, i just got a new computer which only has hdmi/dvi (im using the hdmi on my tv and a dvi -> vga convertor for an old vga screen)
[05:33] <usr13> Instabin|Work: See: man netstat
[05:33] <arnath> i boot the live cd, and the "loading" goes great
[05:33] <elwario91> I've removed openoffice and would like to reinstall it from the cd, how can i do?
[05:33] <ubuntu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyEncryptedRootWithInstaller < is the best encryption for root guide around but does not come up easily, i only spoted it mentioned in 1 other howto, when i finish my install should i rename the guide or link all others too it or just leave it? would it work for all versions or just fiesty/gusty?
[05:33] <genii> Cusoon959: Yes, on a line of it's own, and make sure to put a carriage return after it to make a dead line
[05:33] <arnath> but then the screen just dies (tried this one the vga)
[05:33] <arnath> the computer seems to be running fine, but im getting no image at all
[05:33] <Cusoon959> genii: ok, thanks again :)
[05:33] <stroyan> northstar:  If the problem continues then using strace to record system calls may help to narrow down the cause of the failure.
[05:33] <soundray> elwario91: which CD?
[05:33] <heman> soundray, vlet: thanks :P
[05:33] <elwario91> feisty's cd
[05:34] <Cusoon959> Now how do I add ndiswrapper to bootup?
[05:34] <soundray> elwario91: which one, Desktop or Alternate?
[05:34] <arnath> anyone know what the problem could be?
[05:34] <elwario91> the desktop one
[05:34] <Lhademmor> Hey, can someone please help me with Banshee on Gutsy? I've scanned and added my library, but when I click to play a song nothing happens! It won't even start playing the song! What is wrong?
[05:34] <northstar> stroyan: not sure how to do that :)   if this next compile doesn't go, i'll hunt you down    thanks for the help
[05:34] <stroyan> northstar:  You would want to use strace with -o file and -f to record all the calls under forks and put it in a file to sift through later.
[05:34] <Vlet> arnath: Are you connected using a DVI cable?
[05:35] <northstar> northstar: oh
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: i just tried it with a hdmi cable
[05:35] <northstar> stroyan: oh
[05:35] <Mr_Tux> Heya, is there any official and efficient way to upgrade 50+ computers to from feisty to gutsy?
[05:35] <Cusoon959> genii: Now how do I add ndiswrapper to bootup?
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: before i tested it with a dvi->vga convertor and a vga cable
[05:35] <Vlet> arnath: oh :-/
[05:35] <soundray> elwario91: you can't use the Desktop CD as a package repository. Install from the net.
[05:35] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: you don't want that yet :-)
[05:35] <elwario91> is'nt it possible?
[05:35] <arnath> Vlet: so the boot seems to be working, i ge tnormal screen etc, then when the load thing is done, i get "no signal"
[05:35] <Vlet> arnath: when I first installed, my DVI wouldn't work until I got proper vid card drivers... I dunoh then
[05:35] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: no, but when its stable release is out, i want to be prepared
[05:36] <arnath> Vlet: how do i do that?
[05:36] <soundray> elwario91: no, the Desktop CD is for installation or live system use only
[05:36] <jokerman009> hi. how do i connect to the internet from the command line
[05:36] <jokerman009> network manager is only gui
[05:36] <genii> Cusoon959: I don't use ndiswrapper so not much help with it. There are some howtos for those Broadcoms and ndiswrapper
[05:36] <elwario91> ok
[05:36] <llll-> how do i enable sound? (i'm on 7.10, tried whatever i could find on the forums and nothing works)
[05:36] <elwario91> but you can install packages from cd without the net
[05:36] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: i'd do one prototype and clone it
[05:36] <stefgl> !clone | Mr_Tux:
[05:36] <ubotu> Mr_Tux:: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[05:36] <Cusoon959> genii: I have ndiswrapper working, I just need to know how to load the module when Ubuntu starts up
[05:36] <Lhademmor> Anyone?
[05:37] <arnath> Vlet: how can i install the proper drivers if im trying to install ubuntu from the live cd? :|
[05:37] <soundray> elwario91: not the Desktop CD, as far as I know. You'd have to have the Alternate one
[05:37] <elwario91> no you can
[05:37] <Vlet> arnath: I don't know
[05:37] <stefgl> !automate | Mr_Tux:
[05:37] <ubotu> Mr_Tux:: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[05:37] <elwario91> i installed build-essential after install
[05:37] <soundray> elwario91: what's your question then?
[05:37] <jokerman009> does anyone here know how to connect to a wireless network from the command line?
[05:37] <usr13> Instabin|Work:  What is XP's limit on the number of active connections?
[05:37] <Vlet> arnath: you may have to use the alternate CD or something
[05:37] <arnath> Vlet: alternate cd? :|
[05:37] <soundray> jokerman009: find out your interface name, e.g. wlan0, and run 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[05:37] <dabaR> jokerman009: yes. Does it have protection?
[05:38] <Vlet> arnath: when you downloaded the ubuntu iso, there was an option to download an alternate cd
[05:38] <usr13> Instabin|Work: Do you know what that limit is.  (That's interesting, I did not know XP had a limit.)
[05:38] <genii> Cusoon959: Generally any modules you want to always load, put the name into /etc/modules        same way as blacklist, 1 per line and make a carriage return after the end of last entry
[05:38] <jokerman009> dabaR: yes
[05:38] <soundray> jokerman009: or did you mean configure a connection?
[05:38] <yurimxpxman> are there any pdf readers for a terminal?
[05:38] <dabaR> jokerman009: do you want to tell me what kind?
[05:38] <jokerman009> soundray: wep i think
[05:38] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: we already cloned one machine to our computers but i hoped i can get around it for a dist-upgrade
[05:38] <arnath> Vlet: o ye, i just saw it, this would allow me to fetch the drivers & install then? if so, what command would install the drivers? :D (8600GTS)
[05:38] <Vlet> arnath: Are you using an ATI card?
[05:38] <soundray> yurimxpxman: pdftotext
[05:38] <arnath> Vlet: no, nvidia
[05:39] <usr13> Instabin|Work: And I wonder if it's the same with home or pro?
[05:39] <yurimxpxman> soundray: thanks
[05:39] <Blackkatt> Kr0ntab:  am back
[05:39] <jokerman009> basically i need to get the internet up to get X up. because i need to download fglrx driver from restricted
[05:39] <Kr0ntab> i know
[05:39] <soundray> jokerman009: I think you want to reply to dabaR
[05:39] <Vlet> oh, the 8600... I think there have been issues with it... you should search the ubuntuforums.org for discussion about it
[05:39] <jokerman009> dabaR: oops. wep .
[05:39] <jokerman009> soundray: thanks
[05:39] <Lhademmor> Okay then... Should I just report a bug in Launchpad saying "Banshee doesn't work"?
[05:39] <Cusoon959> genii: but in /etc/blacklist i had to put "blacklist bcm43xx", so what do I put in /etc/modules? Just the name of the module, or something before it like /etc/blacklist?
[05:39] <dabaR> jokerman009: do you know the key?
[05:39] <jokerman009> dabaR: yeah
[05:39] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: i tested perl -pi -e 's|feisty|gutsy|g' /etc/apt/sources.list and DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get dist-upgrade -y and it worked, is this discouraged?
[05:39] <arnath> Vlet: o great... :< thx for your help, will have a look
[05:40] <soundray> Cusoon959: same syntax
[05:40] <dabaR> jokerman009: run iwlist, and post the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:40] <Cusoon959> soundray: "modules ndiswrapper"?
[05:40] <DopplerDeffect> is it possible to upgrade feisty to gutsy w/o an OS reinstall?
[05:40] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: a dist-upgrade for 50 machines is much more work than just doing one machine and simply clone it to the other boxes. restoring an image is far quicker than letting 50 machines go through the whole reconfiguration process of an upgrade
[05:40] <usr13> jokerman009: iwconfig eth1 essid linksys
[05:40] <usr13> or what ever
[05:40] <usr13> jokerman009: iwlist
[05:40] <stroyan> jokerman009:  You can usually start X with vesa when vendor specific configuration is not working.
[05:41] <soundray> Cusoon959: sorry, misread your question. Just ndiswrapper on a line by itself
[05:41] <jokerman009> stroyan: i tried with the failsafe config. it doesn't work.
[05:41] <usr13> jokerman009: iwconfig eth1 key ##########
[05:41] <Lhademmor> !downgrade
[05:41] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:41] <usr13> if it's 64 bit
[05:41] <soundray> DopplerDeffect: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:41] <soundray> !upgrade > DopplerDeffect, and read ubotu's private message
[05:41] <dabaR> !upgrade > DopplerDeffect
[05:41] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: 50+ computers with different hardware, that's the main-prob, so we have to reconfigure the xserver aggain and again on all those computers
[05:41] <arnath> Vlet: would it do me any good to use the beta of the next version of ubuntu? as i heard this has improved support (with the new xorg thingy?)
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: You have the wep key?
[05:42] <jokerman009> usr13: thanks. i'll reboot and try it now.
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: no
[05:42] <soundray> arnath: join #ubuntu+1, read the topic and decide for yourself. My opinion: it's worth trying.
[05:42] <genii> Cusoon959: ndiswrapper
[05:42] <usr13> just restart the network
[05:42] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: time for 50+ dist-upgrades is no problem: all the pcs can run it on the weekend :)
[05:42] <jokerman009> usr13: i'm not in ubuntu now...
[05:42] <DopplerDeffect> soundray, dabaR, thanks
[05:42] <Cusoon959> genii: thanks. Now I'm just gonna restart to test it
[05:42] <usr13> jokerman009: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:42] <arnath> soundray: ok
[05:43] <usr13> jokerman009: O
[05:43] <Vlet> arnath: if I were in your shoes, I'd try it :)
[05:43] <kurisutofuaa> Anyone off the top of there head the command to upgrade to 7.10 (from 7.04)? Testing it out in vm.
[05:43] <Pici> kurisutofuaa: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[05:43] <soundray> It's that time of the year again... +1 questions over and over
[05:44] <kurisutofuaa> Pici, thanks I head over there now
[05:44] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: i see...  given that the upgrade *really* works this time, you could do that. But i'll predict you will have to fix a couple of things after it anyway... have fun :-)
[05:44] <heman> kurisutofuaa: I do
[05:44] <riotkittie> that should be thrown in the topic. not that 99% of the people that would need to read it would :P
[05:44] <soundray> riotkittie: agree on both counts ;)
[05:45] <dabaR> !upgrade > kurisutofuaa
[05:45] <heman> update-manager -d Is the terminal code to upgrade by you must have all feisty upgrades first
[05:45] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: what do u expect that i have to fix afterwards?
[05:45] <heman> hey guys why are there seperate rooms for everything
[05:45] <heman> It seems silly to me
[05:45] <soundray> heman: this channel not busy enough for you?
[05:46] <heman> soundray: its busy yes I know but still...oh I get it lol :P sorry
[05:46] <riotkittie> heman: don't  tell us to get over it.
[05:46] <kurisutofuaa> dabaR, thanks
[05:46] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: on my first test i had not much problems, w/o noninteractive i just got 2 questions "do you really want to upgrade" and "what services shall i restart cuz of pam-update"
[05:46] <heman> riot:??? I didn't
[05:46] <usr13> heman: I don't know for sure, but may be because this channel is very busy, very hard to keep up with.
[05:46] <stefgl> Mr_Tux: because every upgrade until now had issues... ATM gutsy tends to push interface names from eth0 to eth1,  for example
[05:46] <riotkittie> the fact of the matter is, many of the people having problems... have issue with the speed of the channel as is :P
[05:47] <heman> riot: yeah I understand now :P
[05:47] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: we had the same problem with feisty, on the original machine it was eth0 and on all machines based on the clone of this machine, its eth1
[05:47] <soundray> riotkittie: strange, I gathered my first IRC experience in here, and I never found it *that* hard...
[05:48] <riotkittie> soundray: lol. not everyone does, but i see complaints a lot :P
[05:48] <soundray> Mr_Tux: probably something to do with /etc/iftab
[05:48] <soundray> Mr_Tux: this binds a mac address to an interface name, so if you clone it...
[05:48] <stefgl> Mr_Tux:  i would just backup the confs, and do a gutsy resinatll with the !automate method
[05:48] <Mr_Tux> soundray: ah, okay, thx, i'll check this :)
[05:48] <Feez> somebody know which langage I should use to make a "home made" internet redirection ?
[05:49] <llll-> or how do i su to root
[05:49] <soundray> Feez: which language? HTML
[05:49] <Mr_Tux> stefgl: okay, i'll check what is best for our system. thank you for your help
[05:49] <riotkittie> you dont su to root. use sudo.
[05:49] <dabaR> !root > llll-
[05:49] <Cusoon959> ok, ndiswrapper loading, but bcm43xx not blacklisted
[05:49] <Cusoon959> !blacklist
[05:49] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[05:50] <heman> whats so bad about using root? I saw on the website it said don't you root unless you have to I don't understand what root is and why its so bad...?
[05:50] <soundray> llll-: use sudo -i to get a root shell. Better yet, run each command individually with sudo if it needs the privileges.
[05:50] <usr13> riotkittie: You are correct. Problem is, that it's hard for the helpee to do the tasks he's trying to do and look at the IRC screen the whole time, because if you look away for a few seconds when it's really busy, you have to page way up to find comments that relate to your issue.
[05:50] <federicomattes> Hello. Can somebody help me with sound problem. I have sound on my dapper but when I open Mplayer it appears 'alsa-control: mixer attach default error: No such device'
[05:50] <Feez> soundray:  well I want to kind of use ssh redirection of ports but without using ssh ^^
[05:50] <soundray> heman: it's the name of the user empowered to do everything on the system.
[05:50] <Dan> .icq.com
[05:50] <Cusoon959> federicomattes: why are you using dapper?
[05:51] <soundray> Feez: iptables perhaps?
[05:51] <heman> soundray: so because im the only ubuntu user in the root admin?
[05:51] <federicomattes> Cusoon959 I like it I I never had problems
[05:51] <alexvd> hi running Gutsy on a tablet pc and have a very annoying problem.  Hibernate and suspend work and resume with no issues if I do it manually.  However when left idle and it goes to Hibernate and I try to resume it comes back fine but then it immediately shuts down.  Can anyone point me to posts that can fix this.  I have searched the forums but I can find it
[05:51] <Feez> I don't have access to root on the host :D
[05:51] <llll-> dabaR, soundray: i tried to sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options.. it prompted me for my password, and after i've entered it, nothing happens
[05:51] <dabaR> federicomattes: does sound work in other programs?
[05:51] <Pici> alexvd: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[05:51] <soundray> heman: it's best to do day-to-day, non-administration work as a non-privileged user.
[05:51] <alexvd> k sorry
[05:51] <soundray> llll-: try gksudo gedit...
[05:51] <Cusoon959> federicomattes: you may want to update...edgy and feisty don't have problems but...they usually do things auto like sount
[05:52] <Cusoon959> sound*
[05:52] <federicomattes> dabaR  yes and even in Mplayer
[05:52] <usr13> Feez: don't have sudo either?
[05:52] <Feez> (I want to use the internet connection of my school department instead of  the one I got in my flat)
[05:52] <heman> soundray: sorry for being very stupid but I don't understand why?
[05:52] <Vlet> heman: It's kind of like wearing a seat belt.
[05:52] <llll-> soundray: doesn't work either
[05:52] <Pici> heman: Have you read the information that !sudo profives?
[05:52] <soundray> heman: there are various reasons: protection from others (attackers from the outside), and protection from yourself.
[05:52] <usr13> Feez: vnc might be what you're looking for.
[05:53] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried to configure a bluetooth headset yesterday and then something was broken
[05:53] <Vlet> heman: If you have to type "sudo some-command" then type a password, you're more likely to think a little bit more about what you're about to do
[05:53] <soundray> heman: as root, you can destroy your entire installation with a simple five-letter command.
[05:53] <dabaR> federicomattes: does sound now work in other programs?
[05:53] <usr13> Feez: or ssh -X  ?
[05:53] <soundray> heman: and if your root account is disabled, it's harder to crack, because the attacker would have to guess your username *and* your passwor
[05:53] <soundray> d
[05:53] <Vlet> heman: I have in the past, accidentally deleted lots of very important things because I forgot I was logged in as root, and mistook which directory I was in
[05:53] <heman> vlet, soundray, pici: Oh I understand so should I make another accunt for non-admin tasks then, oh and also what is the command...
[05:53] <federicomattes> dabaR the sound works in all programs!
[05:54] <Feez> usr13:  I can use ssh -X which works well but I just want my programs to run on my computer while sending packets to the host and the host send it to the internet
[05:54] <Pici> heman: No, just use your normal user account, and use sudo for administrative tasks.
[05:54] <heman> vlet: ok but I don't even know how to code so how could I do that?
[05:54] <Pici> !sudo | heman read these links
[05:54] <ubotu> heman read these links: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:54] <soundray> llll-: anything when you do a 'gksudo xlogo'?
[05:54] <ChrisBatman> new to ubuntu server as of today - looks great, but does anyone know of a webmin type program to administer everything?
[05:54] <federicomattes> dabaR  when I write alsamixer  appears:  'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'
[05:54] <kane77> I have a problem with my wifi in my laptop (it's broadcom) I installed the fwcutter but it acts strange: it works (I have eth1 listed in ifconfig, it scans with iwlist scan), then when I enable roaming mode it still seems to work, but when I disable it again it stops working and it disapears from ifconfig, iwlist says eth1 doesn't support scanning.. do you think that this is a driver issue?
[05:55] <Opspin> Hvad s Kris!
[05:55] <Feez> usr13:  so I was thinking to do my own server/client program
[05:55] <Vlet> heman: linux is a powerful thing, and can be a little confusing at the beginning. it's best to just log in as your mortal user; you never know when you can accidentally do something bad :)
[05:55] <usr13>  Feez: maybe export DISPLAY=:0.1
[05:55] <heman> pici: I've read that before thankyou :P, but I don't know how to code so wouldn't my only threat be other people really...?
[05:55] <heman> vlet: lol
[05:55] <llll-> soundray: nothing either
[05:55] <Feez> usr13: what does that do ?
[05:56] <heman> Vlet: ok urm how do I make a mortal user?
[05:56] <soundray> heman: no, especially since you're inexperienced, you're likely to get something wrong and hose your system.
[05:56] <Vlet> heman: well, when you log into your system, you log in as 'heman', right? (or whatever your username is)
[05:56] <riotkittie> heman: for the most part, you are a mortal user.  you have administrator rights (if you're the only user on your machine), but you have to invoke them
[05:56] <heman> vlet: yes
[05:56] <federicomattes> dabaR  should I give you some other information?
[05:56] <dabaR> federicomattes: so your issue is that you are unable to use the alsamixer?
[05:57] <heman> soundray: ok I get ya
[05:57] <heman> riot: I am the only user
[05:57] <riotkittie> you do that by prefixing the command with sudo when running in the terminal, or gksu if it's a GUI app. otherwise, you enter your PW when prompted
[05:57] <heman> riot: accept when my family use open office & the net...
[05:57] <Vlet> heman: well, then you're set. your user can not delete/modify important system files without specifically telling the computer that you want to do so
[05:57] <Feez> usr13:  I know it's a bit tricky ^^
[05:57] <federicomattes> dabaR  ok fine, but... How can I make this works again?
[05:57] <profanephobia> Is there a way to set firefox's proxy settings with terminal
[05:57] <heman> vlet: ok so I can keep the account im on aslong as im not too curious
[05:57] <ChrisBatman> anyone out there? webmin type program for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <Nashu> Hy
[05:59] <soundray> ChrisBatman: I don't think there is. You can always install ubuntu-desktop and administer via remote desktop
[05:59] <heman> So how would I go about learning what commands do what then, so that I know what commands I should & shouldn't type and don't have to revert back to IRC 24/7
[05:59] <soundray> !cli > heman, private message
[05:59] <Nashu> I'd like to know where are the icons for the HDD, you know the regular icons Ubuntu puts when it  detects a new drive
[05:59] <Vlet> heman: well, if you see some cool how-to on ubuntuforums that tells you how to modify your system to do nifty things, you'll likely need to have 'super-user privileges'. In gnome (that's the name of the graphical interface un ubuntu) some apps will ask you to enter your password again to allow that app to do superuser stuff (like add accounts)
[05:59] <DopplerDeffect> why is the java sdk not considered one of eclipses dependencies? it would have made my life a lot easier
[05:59] <federicomattes> dabaR ?
[05:59] <profanephobia> ChrisBatman, you could always setup ssh and control it that way
[06:00] <heman> soundray: reading
[06:00] <ChrisBatman> yes - i just want easy apache and dhcp setting capabilities
[06:00] <ChrisBatman> i like the graphical interface rather than conf files
[06:00] <Jaymac> heman: here is a decent pdf file: http://fosswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[06:00] <soundray> DopplerDeffect: probably because you can user other java vms with it. Feel free to report it as a bug, though.
[06:00] <heman> vlet: ok well I've had to enter my pass about 20 times since I installed 3 days ago
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> DopplerDeffect, so that you can choose your own jdk
[06:00] <}Matrix{> i have a problem.. i dont know why ( http://86.106.92.114/mda/testing.php ) dont works ? it download instead of open it ( with firefox ) please help
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> people would get a tad upset if they were locked into a certain one
[06:01] <}Matrix{> what i did wrong ? do i have installed php ?
[06:01] <ChrisBatman> webmin works fine if you download the new debian version - just tried - YAY!  thanks guys
[06:01] <Vlet> heman: that's normal at first, but once your system is set up well, you'll rarely have to do so. I haven't had to enter mine in a few days
[06:01] <heman> jaymac: thanks
[06:01] <DopplerDeffect> soundray, wasn't really complaining, just took me a while to figure out why it wasn't recognizing my import statements
[06:01] <usr13> Feez: I walked away from the terminal for a couple minutes.  What is tricky? Did you get my last suggestion?  xport DISPLAY=:0.1
[06:01] <heman> vlet: ok :P
[06:02] <federicomattes> I need help with ALSAMIXER!
[06:02] <dabaR> federicomattes: I am asking you whether what you need fixed is: Alsamixer can not be opened.
[06:02] <soundray> BioPod: ping
[06:02] <Jaymac> heman, no problem :)
[06:02] <cliechti> palm users here? i try to restore a device but no data gets downloaded (restore from gpilotd completes successfully - doing nothing useful)
[06:02] <heman> I think I now understand why most hackers use linux :S
[06:02] <usr13> export not xport
[06:02] <Vlet> heman: btw, there aren't really any 'bad' commands, it's more how you use them. If I were in a directory /home/vlet/somestuff/ and I wanted to get rid of everything (including sub-folders) I would type: rm -Rf *
[06:03] <Jaymac> heman, also: https://help.ubuntu.com/pdf/ubuntu/C/desktopguide.pdf
[06:03] <Jaymac> that is the Ubuntu desktop guide
[06:03] <soundray> cliechti: can you rephrase the problem?
[06:03] <genii> Vlet: Perhaps not the best idea to plant in the mind of a new linux user who may experiment with it LOL
[06:03] <Vlet> heman: but if I was logged in as root but forgot I was, and happened to think I was in /home/vlet/somestuff, but was actually in / and typed rm -Rf *, it would delete everything on the computer
[06:03] <heman> vlet: ok so I think I understand...
[06:03] <Vlet> genii: ohh yeah ;)
[06:04] <federicomattes> dabaR I'd like to fix alsamixer. I can't open Volume control... but I got sound. Until yesterday, before I tried to install that bluetooth headset, everything worked well
[06:04] <}Matrix{> /who lol
[06:04] <cliechti> soundray: palm device had empty batteries, need to restore it. the gnome applet has a "restore" function. when it prompts to, i press the hotsync button, it strarts working. however after 2 seconds it is done and not restored
[06:04] <}Matrix{> wich is the command to open my ssh ?
[06:04] <heman> vlet: :O jaymac: thanks :P
[06:04] <federicomattes> dabaR I don't know whether the problem is ALSAMIXER or samethong else. I'm not much experienced Sorry
[06:05] <soundray> cliechti: this may sound obvious, but did you backup your device before?
[06:05] <cliechti> soundray: yes, often. i must also add that i'm on gutsy
[06:06] <Nashu>  I'd like to know where are the icons for the HDD, you know the regular icons Ubuntu puts when it  detects a new drive
[06:06] <heman> vlet: what does killall proc do (am I allowed to ask stuff like this here or is there another IRC for all this...?)
[06:06] <Jaymac> cliechti, go to #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[06:06] <soundray> cliechti: you shouldn't have said that. Now we're offtopic. Never mind, I don't think you have a gutsy problem.
[06:06] <Mthed> What can i do with .bin files?
[06:06] <dabaR> federicomattes: no worries...
[06:06] <Vlet> heman: If you wonder what a certain command does, type: man killall
[06:06] <Jaymac> give yourself run permissions and execute them with ./file.bin
[06:06] <soundray> cliechti: are you sure you've pointed the restore process to the backup from which you want to restore?
[06:06] <dabaR> Mthed: probably run them after chmod +x'in gthem
[06:07] <brobostigon> .bin are executable
[06:07] <soundray> brobostigon: not necessarily
[06:07] <dabaR> federicomattes: run lsof /dev/ds*, and post the output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:07] <federicomattes> dabaR thanks :)
[06:07] <brobostigon> alot of the time they are
[06:07] <soundray> Mthed: there are various types of files ending in .bin -- where does yours come from?
[06:07] <}Matrix{> is there anyone knows why my php dont works ? i try with firefox and says to download it..
[06:07] <riotkittie> killall <process> kills all instances of a process
[06:08] <arnath> Vlet: if i use the regular cd and i do the safe mode thing or something, it seems to work (so far)
[06:08] <heman> vlet: but how do I know I wont do something bad?
[06:08] <cliechti> soundray: it proposes the folder with appended "backup" but there is no "backup" subfolder here. i have a folder "0" instead. i tried the backup function with and without "backup" and "0" appended. same result every time
[06:08] <soundray> brobostigon: they might as well not be, so your reply is not helpful, but potentially confusing
[06:08] <Mthed> I downloaded netbeans and JDK in a bundle. https://sdlc5e.sun.com:443/ECom/EComActionServlet/DownloadPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.DownloadPageInfo;jsessionid=CA488DA623FBACE59418A52877F077F3;jsessionid=CA488DA623FBACE59418A52877F077F3
[06:08] <Jaymac> heman, you shouldn't need to kill a program unless it has stopped responding...
[06:09] <Mthed> I'm trying to program some java but couldn't get the scanner working in eclipse.
[06:09] <soundray> Mthed: please don't use that. Install the ubuntu java packages instead. Private message from ubotu:
[06:09] <soundray> !java > Mthed
[06:10] <nomego> has anyone tried virtualization in ubuntu?
[06:10] <soundray> nomego: I've tried ubuntu in virtualization ;)
[06:10] <heman> jaymac: oh so killall proc means kill all progarms open so in otherwords its like the windows equvilant as task manager...?
[06:10] <usr13> Mthed: Are you sure you can't get what you need from the package manager?
[06:10] <Losos> anyone can help me with me sound card ?;)
[06:10] <federicomattes> dabaR I wrote at the terminal:  sudo lsof /dev/ds*  ENTER.  Nothing appears..
[06:10] <nomego> soundray: not quite what I was after ;)
[06:10] <Vlet> heman: Well, as long as you're logged in as your regular user, nothing you do can wreck your install of ubuntu... only the files and settings for that user
[06:11] <soundray> !sound > Losos, read the private message from ubotu please
[06:11] <dabaR> federicomattes: try lsof /dev/sn*
[06:11] <usr13> Mthed:  apt-cache search java
[06:11] <Jaymac> heman, you have to specify a process.... killall proc won't do anything
[06:11] <Vlet> heman: Like, you can make a huge mess in your room, but it's not going to effect the foundation of your hosuer
[06:11] <Vlet> house
[06:11] <Jaymac> killall pidgin (if you want to kill the messaging program pidgin) will kill pidgin
[06:12] <usr13> Mthed: But to answer your question: sudo  chmod +x javastuff.bin &&   ./javastuff.bin
[06:12] <arnath> hmm, wots the command to mount a linux partition?
[06:12] <heman> vlet, jaymac: ok I understand so the worst you can do with linux is completly uninstall the OS's so you would have to re-install again
[06:12] <arnath> (ext3)
[06:12] <arnath> mount -t ? /dev/...
[06:12] <usr13> sudo ./javastuf.bin
[06:12] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried   lsof /dev/sn*  ENTER. Nothing...
[06:12] <Jaymac> heman, you couldn't do that unless you were running with administrator privileges
[06:13] <soundray> !fstab > arnath, please read the private message from ubotu
[06:13] <arnath> soundray: i dont want to fstab it, just add it once (im in the livecd and want to back up some files before i install)
[06:14] <Vlet> heman: well, as a regular user the only thing you could do is mess up your preferences/desktop kind of stuff. That's why not running as root is good. you can go nuts with weird commands, and it won't break the OS
[06:14] <heman> jaymac: I know I was just saying that if I did muck up all I would need to do was re-install ubuntu again, not anything else
[06:14] <soundray> arnath: for temporary mounting, 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' (adapt the device name)
[06:14] <ganes1> how can i access ntfs drive??
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:14] <dabaR> federicomattes: please do ls /dev and post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:14] <arnath> soundray: "you must specify the filesystem type" (i tried -t ext3)
[06:14] <heman> vlet: cool but still how do I know im a normal user and not an admin im not looked into the root account just the one it set up for me at the beginning
[06:14] <usr13> heman: You can wreck any system if you try hard enough.  just do:  "rm -rf /"   and you'll definately have to re-install.
[06:15] <heman> vlet, jaymac: brb thanks for all your help btw very useful :)
[06:15] <Vlet> heman: then you're a regular user
[06:15] <Vlet> heman: glad to help :)
[06:15] <soundray> arnath: you're not giving it the correct /dev/sdXy name
[06:15] <nomego> If I have some servers (one running windows), what would be the best virtualization technology? is vmware my only option for unmodified linux-systems and other platforms?
[06:15] <usr13> heman: But you'd have to use sudo or root to do that.
[06:15] <soundray> arnath: how is the drive connected?
[06:15] <Jaymac> heman, you're welcome
[06:15] <heman> usr13: :S ok but I wont put thank vlet: :) brb
[06:15] <arnath> soundray: sataII and im lookin at fdisk -l, its sdb2
[06:15] <heman> ok I going for dinner brb
[06:16] <heman> thanks usr aswell
[06:16] <arnath> hmm, sec
[06:16] <Yourname``> Hello. I have a few troubles on Feisty. First, I'm trying to run an application (A gnome app) under different users. How can I? I'm using the 64bit version. Next, I'm also trying to run a VNC server that's available right after it boots up, not after a user logs on the gnome. How can I?
[06:16] <arnath> ah sorry, was sdb1, had it mixed up, thx
[06:16] <bentlegen> does anyone know if there's a php 5.2.4 package i can install via apt-get on debian/ubuntu?
[06:16] <federicomattes> dabaR ok I have already posted it
[06:16] <Jaymac> bentlegen, check synaptic
[06:16] <soundray> Yourname``: please ask one question at a time. To log in an extra user, use Quit-Switch user
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  'su' i belive can let usetrs change to other users. or  ya could 'ssh -X localhost as the new user' (but thats extreme) :)
[06:17] <barduck> Hi, does the 7.10 includes wubi with it and if not, is there a way to use wubi with 7.10 otherwise ?
[06:17] <Pici> barduck: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:17] <dabaR> federicomattes: Please tell me the URL.
[06:17] <federicomattes> dabaR http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39457/
[06:17] <Jaymac> barduck, wubi is unofficial and unsupported, try #ubuntu+1 for gutsy issues :)
[06:17] <barduck> ok,ok...sorry. thanks :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as for vnc. - Vnc is a rather complex tool. and is very flexiable. You could spawn a vncsession from the rc.local. BUt you will have to give it some artuments and so forth. also its possible to run vnc from inetd, where it spawns a session on the fly. giving a gdm login screen.
[06:18] <usr13> Yourname``: to run an application as a different user, well you just have to log in as that user.  (Not sure I understand your question.)
[06:18] <dabaR> barduck: you could try searching google for "ubuntu gutsy wubi".
[06:18] <arnath> soundray: and how do i mount an external usb drive?
[06:18] <Mthed> Any idea why i can't get my code working on eclipse?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  simple way - is to have a user ssh in, and run 'vncserver' (properly configured of course) then just run a vncclient on the local machine.
[06:18] <Pici> Mthed: Whats the question?
[06:18] <rbn> ola
[06:18] <LinuxJuggalo> arnath: mount /media/drivename
[06:18] <Jaymac> bentlegen, my synaptic just lists php 5.2.3
[06:18] <rbn> kon kien ablo
[06:18] <ganes1>  Jaymac:how can i access ntfs drive??
[06:18] <soundray> arnath: exactly the same, just adapt the device name. And umount /mnt first, probably
[06:18] <Furionn> Hello, can anyone suggest me a link to see how to set my own shell server on ubuntu?
[06:18] <rbn> ??
[06:18] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: After doing so (vncserver), it literally crashes every GUI app I try to open.
[06:19] <arnath> o crap, im getting "/dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table" ??
[06:19] <soundray> Furionn: '
[06:19] <dabaR> federicomattes: lsof /dev/dsp
[06:19] <soundray> Furionn: 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[06:19] <rbn> yo mem piro en ingles
[06:19] <rbn> no ablo na
[06:19] <Furionn> thx soundray
[06:19] <soundray> !es | rbn
[06:19] <ubotu> rbn: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:19] <dabaR> rbn: portuguese?
[06:19] <Jaymac> ganes1, go to Place>Computer - is it listed there?
[06:19] <rbn> bye bye
[06:19] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried lsof /dev/dsp  and nothing appears
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  i normally use vnc4server, and tweak my own .vnc/xstartup to run a very simple window manager and a xterm window.  I had issues some time ago with vnc and gnome/kde (never did find out why)
[06:19] <Pskol__> !br
[06:19] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:19] <dabaR> federicomattes: lsof /dev/snd
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  when in doubt simpilify and troubleshoot. :0
[06:20] <vsayikiran> what is the use of lost+found folder
[06:20] <arnath> soundray: is it normal that fdisk -l says "sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table", but that i can mount & read it?
[06:20] <arnath> (should i be worried?)
[06:20] <federicomattes> dabaR  I tried  lsof /dev/snd and nothing appears ...
[06:20] <arnath> (sdc is the external usb)
[06:21] <soundray> arnath: no, that's not normal. But I've had that type of trouble myself with fdisk and externals.
[06:21] <ganes1> Jaymac:i can see..those...but it is write protected
[06:21] <Yourname``> Ok, guys, let me actually tell you what I'm trying to do. Basically, I have a filesharing app called Phex. I want it to run as user1, user2, user3, user4. Phex is a GUI-gnome utility, uses Java to run. How can I do it? (nothing should be command line, to be honest.)
[06:21] <usr13> arnath: No worries, that's ok.
[06:21] <Furionn> soundray:  Im newbie in linux/ubuntu, can you tell me with details or give me a link so i can read and learn?
[06:21] <dabaR> federicomattes: please post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:21] <soundray> !ssh | Furionn
[06:21] <ubotu> Furionn: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:21] <arnath> pfew, it would be an insurmountable loss of data
[06:21] <Furionn> better way:) thank you
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  'nothing command  line' really puts the shackles on that task then.
[06:22] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Ok, well, fine. Let's do command line, lol
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  could use xnest, and make a script that launches it 4 times, once for each user  i guess.
[06:22] <}Matrix{> !php
[06:22] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:23] <stefgl> Yourname``: su will let you start programms as different users
[06:23] <soothsayer> I have a file that I deleted, but the file descriptor is still open (i.e. it's not actually deleted yet). How can I recover it?
[06:23] <vsayikiran> what is use of 'lost+folder' folder
[06:23] <federicomattes> dabaR  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39458/
[06:23] <usr13> Yourname``: I suppose you could use vnc for that, I think, someone correct me, if need be.
[06:23] <soundray> vsayikiran: it's lost+found
[06:23] <soundray> vsayikiran: fsck writes to it if it finds corrupted data it can save
[06:23] <Yourname``> stefgl: I tried it, it gave me some java errors.
[06:23] <RATTT> does ubuntu have a character map?
[06:24] <RATTT> java
[06:24] <dabaR> vsayikiran: files that are not linked to noone.
[06:24] <RATTT> was ur prob, i know java
[06:24] <MrDeadLock> Applications ---> Accessories ---> Character map.
[06:24] <Pici> !who | RATTT
[06:24] <ubotu> RATTT: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:24] <vsayikiran> what is use of 'lost+found' folder in /, /home
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,   make the 4 users, install 'sux' then 'sux username'  then THAT user has to run the app. .. repeate for each user.. This will be a bit hard to script in 1 command.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  the users .bashrc or .bash_profile perhaps could auto-run the app.
[06:25] <usr13> Yourname``: And you are saying that  user1, user2, user3, user4  need to log in from [diffenent]  remote machines?
[06:25] <RATTT> anyone here know if there is a character map in ubuntu....i need to type a wierd character which isnt on my keyboard?
[06:25] <Pici> vsayikiran: Its for the ext filesystem when fsck is run.
[06:25] <ganes1> Jaymac:its write protected..how can write to it
[06:25] <Yourname``> usr13: Nope. All in one machine.
[06:26] <glw119> RATTT:just as MrDeadLock said:  Applications ---> Accessories ---> Character map.
[06:26] <RATTT> thnx
[06:27] <Losos> well, my sound card still doesnt work:) i tried the manual
[06:27] <Yourname``> I can't believe this, as this sounds like a limitation. I have 4 roomies who will be using this ubuntu box for files, etc. So, I'm giving them Phex. They will come, logon to their user, start phex and get/send their files.
[06:27] <SuperLag> So... you've tried to install a package, and your dpkg setup is hosed. apt-get -f install does nothing but return the same messages, which also aren't fixable. I'm in an endless loop of dependencies, but don't want to have to reinstall if I can avoid it. How can I fix this?
[06:27] <Losos> anyone to help guys;)?
[06:27] <usr13> Yourname``: Are you sure you are answering my question as I asked it?  (I would have expected "All FROM one machine.")
[06:27] <soundray> RATTT: there is a Character Palette applet for the panel
[06:27] <Yourname``> All I wanted to do is run a VNC server, so I can login from work and login to each user, run phex and keep it running.
[06:27] <generalsnus> is there somthing like "system restore" for ubuntu? so you could set restore points and so on?
[06:28] <Pici> generalsnus: Not yet.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> generalsnus,  not really.
[06:28] <federicomattes> dabaR ?
[06:28] <stefgl> Yourname``: use 'sux' if you need to pass X credentials
[06:28] <deichgraf> hi. I have a short question: where can I configure how much virtual desktops I want to have?
[06:28] <stefgl> !info sux | Yourname``
[06:28] <ubotu> yourname``: sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:28] <soundray> Yourname``: in that case, I suggest you configure autologin and remote desktop. Then you can VNC in from work and do what you need to do.
[06:28] <Yourname``> usr13: I'm trying to answer to everyone in here, so please chill out a little. Frustration is abound trying to make something work. Anyway, everything is being done on one machine.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> vncserver can be a tad picky at time. theres several variants of it. Ive had the best luck with vnc4server lately.
[06:28] <Losos> guys common ;) soundcard problem!:)
[06:28] <Yourname``> soundray: It's almost impossible to make vnc work properly..
[06:28] <mady> bonsoir tout le monde
[06:28] <generalsnus> So, my best bet would be "deep freeze" or some imaging tools?
[06:28] <federicomattes> dabaR did you see lspci posted?
[06:29] <soundray> Yourname``: no, it's very easy if you go via System-Preferences-Remote desktop.
[06:29] <Spycko[> #ubuntu-fr marche pas
[06:29] <soundray> Yourname``: you may have to configure your router(s) appropriately.
[06:29] <Yourname``> soundray: I tried that, and it kept saying wrong password. :(
[06:29] <Yourname``> soundray: This box has no router/firewall or anything at all. So no worries on that end.
[06:29] <arnath> spycko: ca marche pour moi :|
[06:30] <usr13> Yourname``: can't you just leave it running in the first place? (Not sure I understand all there is to know about phex.)
[06:30] <vsayikiran> Pici: can i delete that folder
[06:30] <dabaR> federicomattes: please show me the output of lsmod as well on pastebin
[06:30] <Yourname``> usr13: Yes, I can. But as user1. I want it to keep running as user2, user3, etc.
[06:30] <stefgl> Yourname``: but you don't need to run a complete remote session. 'sux user1 p2p-app && sux user2 p2p-app'
[06:30] <dabaR> federicomattes: yes, sorry about the wait.
[06:31] <soundray> Yourname``: you seem convinced already that your problem is untractable. That's not the attitude.
[06:31] <usr13> Yourname``:  You can't just leave those users logged in and phex running?  (I think that's what I'm trying to say.)
[06:31] <Yourname``> soundray: I'm sorry. It's just that I've tried for over 8 hours, and nothing seems to work.
[06:31] <Yourname``> usr13: From gnome?
[06:32] <federicomattes> dabaR  lsmod  posted:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39459/
[06:32] <usr13> Yourname``: phex is a p2p GUI app.  Right?
[06:32] <Yourname``> usr13: As common-sensical as it sounds, I don't think I tried THAT!
[06:32] <Yourname``> usr13: Yes, it is.
[06:32] <usr13> Ok.
[06:32] <dabaR> federicomattes: try alsamixer -D /dev/dsp, please
[06:33] <vsayikiran> Pici: can i delelte 'lost+found' folder
[06:33] <usr13> Yourname``: well, try it and see... :)
[06:33] <kane77> I have a problem with my wifi in my laptop (it's broadcom) I installed the fwcutter but it acts strange: it works (I have eth1 listed in ifconfig, it scans with iwlist scan), then when I enable roaming mode it still seems to work, but when I disable it again it stops working and it disapears from ifconfig, iwlist says eth1 doesn't support scanning.. do you think that this is a driver issue?
[06:33] <stefgl> vsayikiran: you're not supposed to do that. system folder on ext2/3
[06:33] <federicomattes> dabaR  it shows: ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/dsp
[06:33] <federicomattes> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[06:33] <Yourname``> usr13: Yeah, I think I'm going to do that.. gonna have to run to datacentre.
[06:34] <xImortal> hi
[06:34] <xImortal> =D
[06:34] <dabaR> federicomattes: try alsamixer -D /dev/snd, please
[06:34] <federicomattes> dabaR ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/dsp   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[06:34] <usr13> kane77: sounds normal to me.
[06:34] <Furionn> where to write any commands like sudo, apt etc*
[06:34] <dabaR> federicomattes: brb
[06:34] <xImortal> 
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  or manually spawn a vncserver from the rc.local file running as the user you want. that way you have a 'hidden/remote' desktop.  you will NOT see the currently running desktop when you vnc in. but the remote one.
[06:34] <arnath> Furionn: console
[06:34] <xImortal>  verdade
[06:34] <soothsayer> Here is the answer to my question if anyone is interested: http://sial.org/blog/2006/07/recover_deleted_files.html
[06:34] <xImortal> tambm concordo
[06:34] <heman> Im back
[06:34] <xImortal> x;
[06:34] <kane77> usr13, i don't think this is normal...
[06:34] <usr13> kane77: if you dissable the driver, you are essentially turning off the device.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> vncserver  is one of those flexiable tools.. that can be so.. usefull.. once ya learn its ins and outs.
[06:34] <stefg> !br  | xImortal
[06:34] <ubotu> xImortal: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:35] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: That sounds about right. How can I do it? I have no idea about the workings of rc.local. :(
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  its a bash script. :)
[06:35] <xImortal> stefg :P ok.
[06:35] <xImortal> ;x
[06:35] <usr13> kane77: and you won't see the network device name anymore.
[06:35] <Furionn> how to reach there arnath? sorry im so newbie:)
[06:35] <federicomattes> dabaR  federico@Federico-ubuntu:~$ alsamixer -D /dev/snd    ALSA lib control.c:817:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/snd   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for /dev/snd: No such file or directory
[06:35] <kane77> usr13, that's badly written I meant I disable roaming mode... not the card
[06:35] <usr13> kane77: O
[06:35] <exilio> hola
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  if using vnc4server, you can make a users .vnc/xstartup run what you like.
[06:35] <arnath> Furionn: programs -> accessoires -> terminal
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you could spawn 4 vncserver sessions one for each user even that way.
[06:35] <Furionn> thanks :)
[06:35] <exilio> some body speak spanish?????
[06:35] <Some_ux> Hi, is the username admin, taken in ubuntu?
[06:36] <arnath> np
[06:36] <stefg> !es
[06:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:36] <usr13> kane77: So, what command are you using to dissable roaming?
[06:36] <murkyMurk> exilio: i believe they do in spain
[06:36] <exilio> allguien que hable espaol???
[06:36] <exilio> grub err 17
[06:36] <dgjones> !es | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: please see above
[06:36] <stefg> !es | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: please see above
[06:36] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Is there a way it could automatically do the spawning once the machine boots up? And is there a GUI config util?
[06:36] <kane77> usr13, the gui config
[06:36] <exilio> grub error 17
[06:36] <exilio> how can i fix it
[06:36] <exilio> ??
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  rc.local runs befor X even starts..  so that IS when it boots up.
[06:36] <stefg> !grub | exilio
[06:36] <ubotu> exilio: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:37] <genii> Some_ux: no
[06:37] <murkyMurk> Some_ux: nope, admin is root (kinda)
[06:37] <kane77> usr13, I also set it to settings it was before (static IP, no WEP etc)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as for a GUI.. no idea there.. I doubt it. thats what scripting is all about.
[06:37] <usr13> kane77: Then I don't know what the GUI app is really doing, but sounds like it's just unloading the driver.
[06:37] <Some_ux> so i can create a new user with the name admin ?
[06:37] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Ah, gotcha! Is there somewhere I can read something about rc.local to see how it'll span out?
[06:37] <genii> Some_ux: Yes
[06:37] <exilio> i install linux from a usb with syslinux
[06:37] <exilio> but
[06:37] <Some_ux> cool
[06:37] <kane77> usr13, so how should I disable the roaming mode from terminal?
[06:37] <usr13> kane77: What you need to do is set up multiple profiles and just switch from one to the other.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  i would start by reading the vncserver manual.   rc.local is Just a simle bash script.   everything ran in there gets ran as root.
[06:37] <exilio> when the computer load
[06:38] <exilio> grub error 17
[06:38] <exilio> how can i fix it ??
[06:38] <exilio> please help me
[06:38] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: So, I'm guessing I use sux to run stuff through rc.local?
[06:38] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of th trashcan?
[06:38] <stefg> !please | exilio
[06:38] <ubotu> exilio: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[06:38] <usr13> kane77: I don't know, just set the essid to a specific name, rather than "any" or what ever it is.
[06:38] <Spycko[> je veux allez sur le forum fr
[06:38] <stefg> !fr
[06:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  so i 'guess' the process would be similer to..   make a .vnc/xstartup for each user that spawns a simple window manager, (like jwm) and the tool you want to run., then  use 'sudo username vncserver' for each user in rc.local
[06:39] <usr13> kane77: setting essid to "any" would be roaming mode, I think.
[06:40] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of th trashcan?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you would NOT use 'sux' from rc.local
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  Sux lets other users apps show up on your current desktop
[06:40] <federicomattes> dabaR   do you need some other information?
[06:40] <Some_ux> where is a users home directory defined ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  you could make one user, that has a script that spawns the app for all 4 users. using sux i guess. :)
[06:40] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Depends on the file system (may not be possible)
[06:40] <usr13> kane77: and you would control that with iwconfig.  e.g.  iwconfig eth1 essid linksys    or   iwconfig eth1 any
[06:40] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: I wouldn't mind that either.. actually, all of them showing up in one place.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> That way it would be one vncserver instance not 4
[06:40] <JG3X> @ find configuring cisco firewalls
[06:41] <soundray> Some_ux: in  /etc/passwd
[06:41] <hgjjjf> soothsayer can u run me through on how in anycase
[06:41] <usr13> kane77: corrections: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid linksys    or  sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any
[06:41] <Some_ux> cool
[06:42] <usr13> kane77: iwconfig   with no arguments will show current settings
[06:42] <jason__> what file do i have to edit to let hddtemp run without needing the root password?
[06:42] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: The procedure is different depending on the filesystem. If is ext2 there is 'e2undel' or 'recover'. There is also a procedure that I know works for reiserfs3
[06:42] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: Yeah, that sounds easier to me.. lol
[06:42] <federicomattes> dabaR  ?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  as i said. vnc is flexiable and powerfull.. and has a lot of 'nested' shell scripts it uses to do things.
[06:42] <bloodboy> i would like to konw what filesystem is the most reliable in Linux?
[06:43] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: As for other file systems I do not know
[06:43] <kane77> usr13, strange is that card lists if I use iwconfig, but not with ifconfig (normally it lists also there)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  using jwm as the window manager for vnc will save a lot of resources also.
[06:43] <bloodboy> is ext3 FS good?
[06:43] <hgjjjf> soothsayer:  its for ext3
[06:43] <usr13> jason__: hddtemp.conf I would imagine.
[06:43] <murkyMurk> kane77: man iwconfig is very well written.  ap auto is probably what you need for auto-roaming
[06:43] <bloodboy> how about Reizer FS?
[06:43] <soundray> jason_: you should run hddtemp as a daemon from /etc/rc.local. Then you can have readouts with user privileges
[06:44] <hgjjjf> how do i recover songs deleted and emptied out of the trashcan?
[06:44] <soothsayer> hgjjjf:  http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[06:44] <soundray> bloodboy: ext3 is the best-tested in desktop/laptop/workstation scenarios
[06:44] <dabaR> federicomattes: not sure what to do.
[06:44] <hgjjjf> soothsayer:  thnks
[06:44] <usr13> kane77: May be that it will only show in ifconfig if it is connected to a live network.
[06:44] <usr13> guessing  ^^^
[06:44] <Yourname``> Dr_willis: I'm trying to look for vnc documentation for the one in Ubuntu so I can understand all of it.. but it seems to be hidden somewhere, heh
[06:44] <dabaR> federicomattes: google with the entire error message when you run just 'alsamixer'
[06:45] <federicomattes> dabaR  thanks
[06:45] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Umm. Did you read it?
[06:45] <stefg> hgjjjf: you better have a backup. ext3 has no working undelete-tool
[06:45] <bloodboy> kthx for the info soundray
[06:45] <anto> Heya guys i just got a gusty update today an i have totaly forgotten how to reinstall my nvidia drivers !
[06:46] <murkyMurk> kane77: ifconfig just shows enabled devices....ifconfig wlan0 up (or wahtever yours in called) should make sure it's shown
[06:46] <usr13> Yourname``: try:  man vncserver
[06:46] <hgjjjf> stefg no and soothsayer yes
[06:46] <soundray> anto: wrong channel, please join #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  ive been usign vnc for years and years. :) read the 'vncserver' file. (yes ITS a script) and theres dozens of vnc tutorial sites out.. gentoo wiki pages have some good info also.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Yourname``,  vncserver --help is handy also.
[06:46] <anto> Doh oki
[06:46] <b3nw> anyone know a program that that allows you to watch input/output of sound?
[06:46] <usr13> anto has gone beta on us! :)
[06:46] <soundray> b3nw: you mean like an oscilloscope?
[06:46] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Maybe you can try 'magicrescue'
[06:46] <Yourname``> Gotcha.
[06:46] <Yourname``> Thanks guys.
[06:47] <b3nw> let me look, thanks soudnray
[06:47] <soundray> b3nw: 'apt-cache search oscilloscope'
[06:47] <kane77> murkyMurk, but ifconfig eth1 up doesn't work at that time (says that there is no such device)
[06:47] <usr13> anto: apt-cache search nvidia
[06:47] <usr13> will get u started^^
[06:48] <murkyMurk> kane77: eth1 might not be the name of your device. ra0 wlan0 are both possibles
[06:48] <hgjjjf> thnks again soothsayer
[06:48] <soothsayer> hgjjjf: Okay.
[06:48] <kane77> murkyMurk, eth1  is the name.. only when this happens it is gone...
[06:49] <Some_ux> where is it customary to place downloaded installation files for applications which serve all users
[06:49] <usr13> kane77: ifconfig  [show network device names] 
[06:49] <soundray> Some_ux: /usr/local or /opt
[06:49] <usr13> iwconfig  [show wireless device names] 
[06:49] <soundray> Some_ux: wikipedia has a good page on FHS (the filesystem hierarchy standard)
[06:49] <murkyMurk> kane77: refresh the problem for me
[06:50] <Some_ux> soundray: thanks
[06:51] <usr13> murkyMurk: kane77 is trying to figure out how to easily switch from one hetwork to another with his wireless nic.
[06:52] <kane77> murkyMurk, it's broadcom with fwcutter, when I enable roaming mode and then disable it again the interface just disapears... after restart it's back.. could this be driver related?
[06:52] <generalsnus> is there any way of connecting to a ubuntu box..from a winxp cmd line?
[06:52] <devious`> hi all
[06:52] <Furionn> Is that possible to make a shell and create egg/bnc?
[06:52] <murkyMurk> usr13: ahhh. Use iwlist to discover devices, iwconfig to reassociate it to the new ap, ifconfig to down and then up it
[06:52] <murkyMurk> kane77: yep.
[06:52] <devious`> ppl, i got a q
[06:52] <devious`> when i was installing kubuntu, i denied the use of paging file, since i have 2Gb RAM.. Is that a good idea or not? If not, can i change that now?
[06:52] <soundray> generalsnus: telnet (but it's not safe)
[06:52] <usr13> murkyMurk: And it's not a fully supported card, so it's going to have a non-standard device name.
[06:53] <cliechti> generalsnus: something like running a SSH server on ubuntu and logging in from xp with putty/plink?
[06:53] <soundray> generalsnus: you could install Cygwin -- that will give you a bash shell with ssh
[06:53] <Furionn> Is that possible to make a shell and create egg/bnc?
[06:53] <stefg> soundray, Some_ux : installed apllications go there, but to store archives ususally /usr/src (source code) or /var/local would be used. /usr is readonly by definition, so you can't download to there
[06:53] <profanephobia> I need a way to message an xp client over a LAN by the IP address
[06:53] <murkyMurk> usr13: ewwwww..the words 'linux wifi' and 'not fully supported device' still send shivers down my spine
[06:53] <generalsnus> hm..does putty require an installation?
[06:54] <Some_ux> using /opt here
[06:54] <usr13> kane77: haveing a wireless card running under ndsiwrapper will not have full range of functions.
[06:54] <cliechti> generalsnus: no, you can grab the zip archive. it is a single exe
[06:54] <vsayikira1> the default trash folder for /media/sda7 is .Trash_username folder i want to change this to some another folder is it possible?
[06:55] <usr13>  murkyMurk, Then use fully supported device, (if you want ease of use).  :)
[06:55] <stefg> vsayikira1: no
[06:55] <deb_user> after upgrading to edge, then to feisty, and having inumerable and very intractable problems with fglrx and xserver, i finally removed fglrx, reconfigured xserver, and now I get a spash screen but after logging in the command line comes up in a little black box at the left hand corner...no GNOME, please help
[06:55] <soundray> vsayikira1: use a symlink: 'ln -sf /path/to/.Trash-username /path/to/someothername'
[06:55] <NiCo_1985> generalsnus, nope
[06:55] <nerdzyboy> Im running ubuntu 7.10b, Im having a problem with my wifi card, it is being detected properly, the network manager connects properly to any network but the speed never gets over 10-12 kb/s is that normal? (in windows i can get speeds of 800 kb/s with the same card...)
[06:55] <Pici> nerdzyboy: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[06:55] <ganes1> soundray:inside drive "file system" i m not able to create folder..can u help??
[06:56] <Some_ux> how do i move entire directories ?
[06:56] <soundray> ganes1: prepend sudo
[06:56] <soundray> Some_ux: with mv
[06:56] <vsayikira1> what is difference b'ween symlink and link
[06:56] <Some_ux> soundray: i am trying without success
[06:57] <deb_user> anybody know why the command line comes up in a little black box after trying to login?  can't seem to get to my desktop in the GUI
[06:57] <soundray> Some_ux: what does it say?
[06:57] <henry> hi
[06:57] <Some_ux> mv: inter-device move failed: `vmware-server-distrib/' to `/opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[06:57] <soundray> deb_user: take a look at $HOME/.xsession-errors to see if a failure has been logged
[06:57] <vsayikira1> soundray: is it necessary that both folders should have same permissions
[06:57] <murkyMurk> usr13: I do now. This was at the beginning of wifi when ndiswrapper was the only option for a lot of cards.
[06:57] <ravihp> /HELP
[06:58] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, symlinks inherit the link target's permissions
[06:58] <Some_ux> they are on different partitions
[06:58] <soundray> vsayikira1: man ln
[06:58] <Pici> !ask | ravihp
[06:58] <ubotu> ravihp: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:58] <stefg> deb_user: i'd  make backup and dpkg --get-selections and reinstall from scratch. Upgrades don't work, ubuntu rule of aquisition #139
[06:58] <profanephobia> does anyone know any apps to message xp clients over a LAN?
[06:58] <soundray> Some_ux: 'vmware-server-distrib/* to /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[06:59] <ganes1> soundray:i din get u
[06:59] <Some_ux> yes
[06:59] <soundray> Some_ux: sorry, hit enter too early. 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[06:59] <vsayikira1> soundray: is there any way so that a folder cannot inherit permissions from its parent folder
[06:59] <Some_ux> yes
[06:59] <Pici> profanephobia: you might be able to use something that hooks into 'net send' but that requires that the messenger service be turned on on the target computers, which it usually isnt.
[06:59] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, that wouldn't make sense
[06:59] <Some_ux> wat
[06:59] <Some_ux> wait, no
[07:00] <profanephobia> Pici, thanks i know i can always count on you lol
[07:00] <Some_ux> 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/'
[07:00] <ravihp> does any one know how to use getch(),clrscr(),etc functions in gcc because conio.h won't work in gcc
[07:00] <riotkittie> i remeber the days when it was safe to have the messenger service turned on. <thinks back fondly>
[07:00] <soundray> ganes1: if you can't use 'command' due to permissions, use 'sudo command' instead.
[07:00] <kane77> usr13, it is running with fwcutter, and nevermind it seems to work again I purge removed the bcm43xx-fwcutter and reinstalled again...
[07:01] <Airwulf> hey to you all
[07:01] <lordsmok> exit
[07:01] <Tonren> I'm trying to record in Audacity.  On record, I can see the Microphone monitor go up and down.  On playback, I can see the speaker monitor go up and down.  However, no other indications of sound being recorded are there.
[07:01] <kane77> usr13, on the page it says that my card (bcm4311) is supported...
[07:01] <vsayikira1> soundray: but in ntfs partition supports that , a child folder can have independent permission than its parent folder
[07:01] <vsayikira1> soundray: so may be there must be some way in ext3
[07:01] <ravihp> how to use conio.h in gcc?
[07:01] <soundray> Some_ux: no, that won't do what you want, unless I completely misread your intentions
[07:01] <ganes1> soundray:i m new to linux..pls help me..i m learning
[07:01] <yhell> hello
[07:01] <cliechti> Tonren: and other applications can play sound?
[07:01] <Airwulf> How can I change the umask of mounted usb storage devices? I remember that I did it in some udev rules, but I can't find it anymore on feisty
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: Yep.
[07:02] <ganes1> soundray:which command to use
[07:02] <Shapeshifter> Is virtualbox worse in performance than VMWare?
[07:02] <soundray> vsayikira1: I was talking about symbolic links, not subfolders. Subfolder permissions are independent in ext3, just like they are in ntfs
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I'm running it with "aoss audacity"
[07:02] <ravihp> how to use getch() in gcc?
[07:02] <usr13>  murkyMurk;  ndiswrapper works just fine in most cases, it's just that you don't have full range of functions, and you can't just plug the thing into the computer and automaticall connect, you have to download and tinker and workaround etc.  Nowdays there are quite a few [fully]  supported cards and that are nice and easy to use.  It's spoiled us. (Or, it's spoiled me anyway.)
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I've used Skype on this laptop successfully before.
[07:02] <Tonren> cliechti: I've been messing around in KMix but I can't seem to fix this issue with it.
[07:02] <Some_ux> soundray: then how do i do it ?
[07:02] <yhell> anybody who knows how to install some plug-ins of gimp
[07:02] <ckin2001> ravihp, try a channel for c programming
[07:02] <soundray> ganes1: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <SuperLag> So... you've tried to install a package, and your dpkg setup is hosed. apt-get -f install does nothing but return the same messages, which also aren't fixable. I'm in an endless loop of dependencies, but don't want to have to reinstall if I can avoid it. How can I fix this?
[07:02] <soundray> Some_ux: like I told you above
[07:02] <vsayikira1> soundray: i am talking about folders and subfolders
[07:02] <magnetron> sometimes when i use the "save as" dialog, the "filename" field will be emptied. it only happens if i choose a different folder for saving. have anyone of you noticed this bug?
[07:03] <soundray> Some_ux: 'mv vmware-server-distrib/* /opt/vmware/vmware-server-distrib/'
[07:03] <cliechti> Tonren: so audacity is also playing well? its just record related? if it recorded you should see the waveform in audacity
[07:03] <vsayikira1> soundray: i need to talk to you privately regarding this matter
[07:03] <Some_ux> soundray: but the target dirs do not exist
[07:03] <Tonren> cliechti: No waveforms are appearing
[07:03] <ravihp> thanks for suggestion <ckin2001>
[07:03] <stefg> !udev rules | Airwulf
[07:03] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, please keep it in the channel.
[07:03] <Tonren> cliechti: But I AM seeing the microphone monitor go up and down.
[07:03] <bch> question: I want to install monit in feisty. Apt-get install would use version is 4.8.1, but 4.9 is available to download as a tarball. How can I make my own package of the latest version for all my servers?
[07:03] <ubotu> Airwulf: Ever wanted to make your USB-stick /dev/usbstick? Go to http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html to learn more about this feature.
[07:04] <deb_user> soundray: http://pastebin.ca/724491 mind taking a look?
[07:04] <vsayikira1> soundray; is it possible now
[07:04] <deb_user> soundray: I don't know if this is an error or not
[07:04] <soundray> Some_ux: your error message above said that they did -- ?
[07:04] <ravihp> /leave
[07:04] <ganes1> soundray:i wcto copy a file from desktop to fylesystem
[07:04] <cliechti> Tonren: check the mixer settings. there are separate settings for looping though the inputs and actually recording them
[07:04] <ravihp> /leave #irchelp
[07:05] <ravihp> how to leave from the room?
[07:05] <soundray> deb_user: I don't know... Try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm', this should recreate your /etc/gdm/Xsession, which seems to be faulty
[07:05] <Some_ux> soundray: well it works, so apparently they did exist
[07:05] <deb_user> soundray: ok
[07:05] <anto> Can somone help me do a step by step installing of the nvidia drivers ?
[07:05] <vsayikira1> soundtray: this is my /media/sda7 partition which after formating had root as owner and group
[07:05] <soundray> ganes1: on the command line?
[07:05] <ganes1> soundray:even i cant able to create a folder in "file system"
[07:06] <Tonren> cliechti: I'm not sure I see what you mean.
[07:06] <stefg> !nvidia | anto
[07:06] <ubotu> anto: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <ganes1> soundray:no..using gui
[07:06] <bch> I want to install monit in feisty. Apt-get install would use version is 4.8.1, but 4.9 is available to download as a tarball. How can I make my own package of the latest version for all my servers?
[07:06] <yhell> help ....how to install gimp plug-ins in ubuntu
[07:06] <bch> sorry for retype
[07:06] <soundray> ganes1: I see what you mean now. Please don't copy stuff to File System. It's reserved for system use.
[07:06] <bch> dang up arrow
[07:06] <Airwulf> ubotu: I know how I can write udev rules. I did it already on Edgy. But on Edgy I had to change somewhere in /lib, /usr/lib.. a umask=077 line to umask=022. But I do not know where
[07:06] <vsayikira1> soundtray: /media/sda7 owner is root and group is plugdev i belong to this group
[07:07] <emet> !build
[07:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:07] <vsayikira1> soundtray: now i created a folder using root account in /media/sda7
[07:07] <cliechti> Tonren: there is usualy a "line in" volume setting on "playback" and one in "recording" section of the mixer. to record you need to modify the later
[07:07] <vsayikira1> but with my account i can delete that fodler, how is it possible
[07:07] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:08] <yhell> somebody expert using gimp in ubuntu
[07:08] <ckin2001> Airwulf, i think it is in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[07:08] <emet> bch: making .deb packages is not trivial and has a pretty nice learning curve unfortunately
[07:08] <vsayikira1> soundtray: how is it possible that my user account can delete a folder created by root
[07:08] <soundray> vsayikira: please spell my nick correctly, otherwise I'll miss your messages. Look at the ownership and permissions of the folder you can't delete.
[07:08] <stefg> bch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206382 might help
[07:09] <ganes1> soundray:in windows v use different drives...but in linux where to store files???drive "file system" has 55 gb. can i reduce it??
[07:09] <yhell> hello....
[07:09] <anto> stefg, that only helps when you got nv or somhting else runing i'm stuck in a terminal
[07:09] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:09] <Tonren> cliechti: Right now, Input->Line is unmuted and at 50% volume, Input->Mic is set to "Record" (you can only set Line In or Mic to record, not both) and unmuted at 100% volume.
[07:09] <yhell> sorry hristo me no idea
[07:09] <soundray> vsayikira1: you can change them with chmod and chown if needed
[07:09] <poningru_> ganes1, store all your files under /home/ganes1
[07:09] <stefg> anto: what card do you have? (lspci | grep VGA)
[07:09] <SuperLag> This absolutely fscking sucks.
[07:09] <hristo> yhell, ^^ :)
[07:09] <anto> geforce 6200
[07:09] <yhell> hristo, u khow to use gimp in ubuntu
[07:10] <SuperLag> apt/dpkg is hosed.
[07:10] <soundray> ganes1: open a terminal and type 'df $HOME'. How much space do you have there?
[07:10] <hristo> yhell, no. sry
[07:10] <SuperLag> and I can't do a damn thing
[07:10] <soundray> !language | SuperLag
[07:10] <ubotu> SuperLag: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:10] <anto> stefg, GeForce 6200 series
[07:10] <yhell> k thanks, hristo
[07:10] <vsayikira1> soundray: see /media/sda7 is owned by root, and group owner is plugdev
[07:10] <soundray> vsayikira1: what's your username?
[07:10] <SuperLag> soundray: what did I say that offended your sensibilities?
[07:11] <vsayikira1> soundray: vsayikiran
[07:11] <Airwulf> does feisty do not use pmount anymore?
[07:11] <soundray> SuperLag: this isn't about my sensibilities at all. This is about civilized behaviour in a channel that many want to use professionally, or in the presence of young people.
[07:11] <hristo> Hi, I need a PPPoE client for Ubuntu, anyone has any ideas?
[07:11] <yhell> lowe, di2 ka din pala
[07:11] <ckin2001> Airwulf, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221 for a guide to udev rules
[07:11] <ganes1> soundray:around 62 gb
[07:12] <stefg> anto: sudo apt-get install linux-restriced-modules-generic nvidia-glx-new ... then ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' choose 'nvidia' as driver there
[07:12] <vsayikira1> soundray: then i created a folder test in /media/sda7/test , owner and group owner are both root
[07:12] <ganes1> poningru:ok thanks..
[07:12] <ckin2001> hristo, apt-cache search pppoe - will return various tools for pppoe.  I have no experience with it, however.
[07:12] <soundray> vsayikira1: do this: 'mkdir /media/sda7/storage ; chown vsayikiran:vsayikiran /media/sda7/storage/ ; chmod 755 /media/sda7/storage' Now you can write to the storage subdirectory.
[07:12] <vsayikira1> soundray: these permission i set using xterm
[07:13] <anto> stefg, are those dots any packages that i should know of ?
[07:13] <hristo> ckin2001,thanks!:)
[07:13] <soundray> SuperLag: to get help, you should give more detail about the problem you're experiencing.
[07:13] <hannes_> hi, can anybody help me? Im trying to get rid of an read only option on one of my hard drives
[07:13] <anto> Hannes_ is that hard drive a nfts partion?
[07:13] <stefg> anto ... no these dots indicate that there will be some waiting ... :-)
[07:14] <soundray> !pppoe | hristo
[07:14] <ubotu> hristo: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:14] <anto> stefg, Okej
[07:14] <hannes_> anto: yes, it is
[07:14] <vsayikira1> soundray: plz wait listen to my doubt , from my user account that is vsayikiran i am able to delete /media/sda7/test which is actually owned by root
[07:14] <SuperLag> soundray: I have, a couple times. Just been waiting for a response.
[07:14] <cliechti> Tonren: hm. looks good. what i see here is that the first time clicking record, it wont record but when i try it a second time (leaving the empty track) it works :/
[07:14] <soundray> SuperLag: well, I'm listening now, can you be bothered to repeat?
[07:14] <ganes1> soundray:ya i got it...if at all i want to copy some file to these restricted drive how can i do it?
[07:14] <Tonren> cliechti: Odd.
[07:15] <vsayikira1> soundray: how is possible to delete a folder whose owner is root and i dont have  any permissions to delete it
[07:15] <Tonren> cliechti: I disabled the KDE Sound Center and now it's KIND of working... when I run with `aoss audacity` with all of my volumes maxed out and record, there's no whine or buzz, but the recording volume is VERY low and the waveform barely appears.
[07:15] <hannes_> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[07:15] <soundray> vsayikira1: it's not normally possible.
[07:15] <hristo> ubotu, thanks soundray , thankks :>
[07:15] <soundray> hannes_: gehe zu #ubuntu-de
[07:15] <SuperLag> soundray: I was trying to install gdesklets, that's how this started. The dependencies conflicted with a couple other packages on my system. Then apt-get -f install wouldn't fix anything...
[07:16] <stefg> !de | Hannu-san
[07:16] <ubotu> Hannu-san: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:16] <stefg> !de | Hannes
[07:16] <ubotu> Hannes: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:16] <soundray> SuperLag: please paste the output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:16] <SuperLag> soundray: I got three of the 4 packages figured out by using the "Broken" filter from synaptic. I was basically trying to just back out.
[07:16] <vsayikira1> soundray: thats what i told you , i read about file permission in ubuntu's website and found that it supports inheritance
[07:16] <soundray> SuperLag: and let me have the url
[07:16] <leoquant> das gibst doch nicht.....
[07:16] <anto> hannes_ linux cannot write to nfts partions.
[07:17] <anto> stefg, Uhm that didn't help i get the same dam error.
[07:17] <arnath> anto: i thought it was now supported, though shakily?
[07:17] <stefg> anto: which error?
[07:17] <leoquant> go to the oktoberfeste lol
[07:17] <CoisO> Hello folks, i wanna see a brazilian support forum... anyone knew any rl?
[07:17] <CoisO> URL*
[07:17] <anto> amath, last time i tried it didn't work
[07:17] <stefg> !br | CoisO
[07:17] <ubotu> CoisO: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:17] <CoisO> [oktanouc] : thanks
[07:18] <SuperLag> soundray: I think I've got it figured out.
[07:18] <anto> stefg,  i did dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and now gdm starte with some lousy graphics
[07:19] <deviantintegral> anyone here familiar with lvm / softraid? I'm working on resizing everything so I can remove a disk from a raid5 set and shrink the array by one disk. I've resized the file system and the volume, but I'm not sure what to do next - pvresize or mdadm --grow...
[07:19] <stefg> anto: then you've chosen a bad reso as default.
[07:19] <stefg> !fixres | anto
[07:19] <ubotu> anto: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:19] <vsayikira1> soundray: the output of ls -l /media is like this drwxrwxr-x root plugdev sda7 and ls -l /media/sda7 is drwxr-xr-x root root test. if you read carefully vsayikiran which belongs to plugdev group should not be able to delete test folder, but it allows because i have write permission set for parent folder i.e. /media/sda7
[07:19] <anto> stefg, when i tried to run glxgears its said that rbg was not setup
[07:19] <ganes1> poningru_:how to access (write)windows drive which is in ntfs...?
[07:20] <SMOKE> Hello have an old pc running ubuntu, but the hdd is almost at it's end, the pc has a a7v133 mobo, which has a ata100 promise chip, does Ubuntu support this chip or should i run my new hdd on IDE instead of ATA100? could I also use a ata133 disk if i set it on ide instead of ATA?
[07:20] <ganes1> poningru_:i think i need to install ntfs driver..from where can i get it??
[07:20] <vsayikira1> soundray: did you read my message
[07:20] <soundray> vsayikira1: okay, I see. This is normal. You can delete test from its parent because the parent folder's set to allow it, you being a plugdev member.
[07:21] <soundray> vsayikira1: have some patience
[07:21] <stefg> SMOKE: don't worry about using ata100, that's ususally the maximun the bus can take. you could use hdparm or a vendor specific tool , but it's not worth it
[07:21] <anto> stefg, My fps sucks after i restarted the computers its about 220 fps
[07:22] <vsayikira1> soundray: so you mean that /media/sda7/test folder is inheriting permission from its parent folder /media/sda7
[07:22] <ryancr> the newer nvidia drivers didn't seem to fix my black screen problem, how do I force compiz to use indirect render
[07:22] <SMOKE> stefg so I could use any HDD? and use it IDE?
[07:22] <stefg> SMOKE: right
[07:22] <Tonren> Hey guys, all of my Input volumes are maxed out, but when I record in Audacity I can barely hear it or see the waveforms.  How can I fix this?
[07:22] <ganes1> soundray:to accsess(write)windows drive i think i need to install ntfs driver..from where can i get it??
[07:22] <soundray> vsayikira1: no, I'm saying that whether or not you are allowed to remove the test folder depends on the permissions set on the parent folder.
[07:22] <SuperLag> SMOKE: it will just step down the speed.
[07:22] <vsayikira1> soundray: even i dont have exclusive permission to delete test fodler
[07:23] <SuperLag> SMOKE: make that transfer rate, rather than speed
[07:23] <SMOKE> stefg thanks for your quick answer saves me the hassel of trying to get the ata chip to run, and the money of a ata100 disk, ata133 disks are cheaper
[07:23] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > ganes1, please read the private message from ubotu
[07:23] <SuperLag> SMOKE: and if you know how to use rsync, you can copy your install over to the new drive... install grub, and boot up onto the new drive
[07:23] <EviL_SmUrF> I have a really annoying issue I hope somebody can help me out with. I need to remove ndiswrapper from the modprobe.d folder as it is freezing the bootup of my computer. I popped the installation cd back in to boot from that so that I could hopefully mount the disk and delete the file. Well, It keeps saying permission denied, and I cannot give myself write permission on the disk
[07:23] <soundray> vsayikira1: you do have permission to delete it. It's governed by the parent folder.
[07:23] <EviL_SmUrF> how can I go about removing the file?
[07:23] <SMOKE> one last question then, the mobo should support disks bigger then 127gig, ubuntu does 2 i guess?
[07:24] <stefg> SMOKE: just be aware of the difference betwen (old-style) PATA and (new (SATA) . that's not compatible
[07:24] <soundray> EviL_SmUrF: give yourself a root shell with 'sudo -i'. But please be careful.
[07:24] <SuperLag> EviL_SmUrF: what about booting into failsafe mode? are you able to do that?
[07:24] <Pici> SMOKE: Yes.
[07:24] <vsayikira1> soundray: ls -l /media/sda7 is rwxr-xr-x root root 'test'
[07:24] <SMOKE> ok ok cool loads of info
[07:24] <soundray> vsayikira1: that is immaterial.
[07:24] <ganes1> soundray:thanks a lot...
[07:24] <SuperLag> stefg: he could get a PCI SATA controller
[07:24] <SMOKE> rsync, nice tip gonna google it
[07:24] <vsayikira1> soundray: ls -l /media is rwxrwxr-x root plugdev sda7
[07:25] <soundray> vsayikira1: which means that you, as a plugdev member, have the right to remove "test" from that folder.
[07:25] <nymo_> I have a little problem: I can't log in if the network cable is connected or if the wifi-card is active
[07:25] <miro_> hi
[07:25] <vsayikira1> soundray: now looking at this tell me if i have permissoin to delete test folder
[07:25] <SMOKE> well dont want to invest to much in an old pc so getting a pci sata controller is a bit much
[07:25] <SuperLag> right
[07:25] <EviL_SmUrF> there we go. sudo -i did it. thanks!
[07:25] <salty-horse> hi. how do I set open office to have small icons in the toolbars?
[07:25] <soundray> vsayikira1: I haven't time to discuss this any longer. Please look over what I said and think before you post again.
[07:25] <EviL_SmUrF> im trying to get ndiswrapper working for a broadcom 4318 =S
[07:26] <Templar-> org
[07:26] <not_a_k> bah, why does every distro use that same unreadable dark blue directory color
[07:26] <vsayikira1> soundray: yes i am member of plugdev
[07:26] <vsayikira1> soundray: but i want a setting such that i cannot delete test folder
[07:26] <nymo_> I have a little problem: I can't log in if the network cable is connected or if the wifi-card is active. Do anyone have a clue?
[07:26] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, you need the sticky bit
[07:27] <vsayikira1> soundray: eventhough parent folder allows me to delete
[07:27] <tdn> How do I check if there are any new updates *without* actually installing them? (using apt-get or aptitude?)
[07:27] <not_a_k> i'm sick of changing that color on every machine I connect to. I'm I the only one who use an xterm with a black background?
[07:27] <SMOKE> superlag, so with rsync i can copy all files to the new disk and remove the old disk and still have the same system
[07:27] <vsayikira1> ckin2001: please tell me which permision bits i need to set
[07:27] <poningru_> !ntfs | ganes1
[07:27] <ubotu> ganes1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:28] <tdn> SMOKE, remember to install grub on the new disk also.
[07:28] <poningru_> ganes1, starting gutsy read and write support for ntfs should just work
[07:28] <SMOKE> hmm sounds hard ;) just putting in the life disk sounds easyer ;)
[07:28] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, sec, gotta look it up
[07:28] <anto> !nvidia anto
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia anto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <kist> can any1 help me ive looked everywhere trying to disable ctrl-3 = escape bind on bash terminal, how can it be done?
[07:28] <ProN00b> when i add an Administrator user, will it have the same rights as root or only when doing sudo ?
[07:28] <EviL_SmUrF> my gosh, ndiswrapper just wont go away. i thought removing it from the modprobe.d folder would do it, but apparently not
[07:29] <EviL_SmUrF> it is still freezing the machine on boot
[07:29] <anto> !drivers anto
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers anto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <EviL_SmUrF> anyone have any ideas on how to stop ndiswrapper from loading on boot?
[07:29] <vsayikira1> ckin2001: like in ntfs u can set exclusive dont delete permissions to child folder even though parent folder allows to delete
[07:29] <stefg> !nvidia | anto
[07:29] <ubotu> anto: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:29] <vsayikira1> ckin2001: in order to do that what exactly i should do
[07:29] <Gary> If i want to start the ubuntu live CD, it load and load....... and load, but nothing happens
[07:29] <ganes1>  poningru_:what is gutsy??
[07:29] <SMOKE> well thanks for the help everybody! cya later when I run into other trouble
[07:29] <stefg> Gary: how much RAm ?
[07:30] <jhearn> Hi everyone, I have a question about the gnome desktop in Ubuntu. I installed Gutsy beta a couple of days ago on my Dell D630 laptop. I have some questions though, I'll try to start with the little ones.
[07:30] <stefg> !gutsy | jhearn
[07:30] <ubotu> jhearn: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:30] <Gary> stefg: hm......i think 180 gb
[07:30] <jhearn> Will do. Thanks.
[07:30] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, i think it is "chattr +i directory"
[07:30] <stefg> Gary: RAM, not harddrive
[07:30] <Gary> sorry^^
[07:30] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, it may make the directory unwritable as well, man chattr for details
[07:31] <vsayikira1> ckin2001: i didnt get you
[07:31] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, good luck, time for class
[07:31] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, i think it is "chattr +i directory"
[07:31] <ckin2001> vsayikira1, man chattr for details
[07:31] <kist> can any1 help me ive looked everywhere trying to disable ctrl-3 = escape bind on bash terminal, how can it be done?
[07:32] <Gary> stefg: 1.00 gb ram
[07:32] <anto> Is it possible to change from ubuntu to xubuntu without reinstalling the entire pc?
[07:32] <Tonren> I'm trying to record in Audacity.  All of my input volumes are maxed out (in my ALSA mixer and in Audacity itself), but I can still barely hear my recordings.
[07:32] <stefg> Gary: that's enough. Have you done a media check already?
[07:32] <Tonren> anto: Yes, anto--you can just install the "xubuntu-desktop" package.
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> anto: i think you can install the Xfce-desktop, then remove the gnome desktop... nto sure how successful that will be.
[07:33] <Gary> stefg: yes
[07:33] <Tonren> anto: Then, the next time you log in, you can select Xfce as your window manager (instead of "Default login").
[07:33] <arnath> o man this is annoying :|
[07:33] <arnath> i hav ea widescreen tv and the linux install disc displays 800x600 which means part of the screens are outside of my screen
[07:33] <IndyGunFreak> anto: why are yo wanting to switch to xfce, is it a resource issue?
[07:33] <arnath> and the "ok" buttons etc of the live install are outside :@
[07:33] <arnath> how can i change it?
[07:33] <anto> i'm stupid i ment i want to change to kd
[07:33] <Some_ux> how do i unpack a tar ball (tar.gz) ?
[07:34] <stefg> Gary: what machine is that? do you know your hardware? motherboard, vga-card etc, etc ?
[07:34] <archangelpetro> Some_ux: look i tup.. man tar  (tar -zxvf bleh.tar.gz)
[07:34] <IndyGunFreak> anto: kde would be the same process... just kubuntu-desktop instead of xubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <Scunizi> anto, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then when logging in after reboot choose "change sessions"
[07:34] <Tonren> Some_ux: Are you comfortable with command-line usage?
[07:34] <IndyGunFreak> anto: but why do you want to change?
[07:34] <Tonren> Some_ux: Like, using the terminal and stuff?
[07:34] <arnath> anyone? how can i change resolution when running the live cd?
[07:34] <Some_ux> yes
[07:34] <anto> IndyGunFreak, i prefer kde
[07:35] <IndyGunFreak> anto: ok, thats fine, was just curious...
[07:35] <Tonren> Some_ux: Ooh-- archangelpetro answered you up there.  IT's tar -xvzf file.tar.gz.
[07:35] <alesan> hi
[07:35] <IndyGunFreak> anto: if you don't mind having a crapload of Gnome apps in your KDE menu, then just install kubuntu desktop, and be done with it
[07:35] <Tonren> Some_ux: Get comfortable reading man pages--you could have also found that out by using "man tar".
[07:35] <vsayikira1> soundray: if parent folder allow to delete folder , i want the child folder should be deleted only by its owner
[07:35] <alesan> do you have any idea where I can some info if it is possible to ship a "customized" version of ubuntu with our product? it will be the very same with some more packages installed
[07:35] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[07:35] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:36] <anto> You wont get rid of me that easy :>
[07:36] <onestep> tar xf file.tar.gz is usually enough, BTW...
[07:36] <alesan> are there any restrictions to redistribute an ubuntu CD?
[07:36] <IndyGunFreak> anto: i'd recommend reinstalling kubuntu, but thats just my opinion....
[07:36] <Scunizi> arnath, sounds like you might have an intel i81x or i9xx graphics card.  You'll need to install the right driver, change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to reflect the new driver and add the appropriate resolution you want to the list. then CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart the desktop
[07:36] <anto> ./Tibia: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:36] <vsayikira1> soundray: and not according the permission of parent folder, so evev if parent folder allows to delete , child folder can be deleted by its owner only
[07:36] <gokuzzy> .darksin.net
[07:37] <oytunozdemir> sorry
[07:37] <stefg> alesan: you can't redistribute (in the commercial sense), but you can give away as amny as you want
[07:37] <Scunizi> alesan, nope.. even you can sell them on ebay like others. :)
[07:37] <Gary> stefg: grafik: nvidea 6600, sound: realtek AC'97 Audio
[07:37] <anto> but libGL.so.1 is /usr/lib/
[07:37] <stefg> Gary: is that a notebook or a desktop machine ?
[07:37] <Scunizi> alesan, well maybe you can't sell them on ebay.. but you occationally see them there.
[07:37] <arnath> Scunizi: 8600gts
[07:37] <anto> !nvidia | anto
[07:37] <TLF> !xound
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <anto> !nvidia | anto
[07:37] <TLF> !sound
[07:37] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:38] <Gary> stefg: a desktop mashine
[07:38] <anto> !nvidia
[07:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:38] <stefg> Gary: hmmm... so what happens exactly? you try to boot the live CD, what happens next?
[07:38] <alesan> stefg, we sell a hardware device. we would like to include a ubuntu livecd with our drivers already insatlled. is this possible or not
[07:38] <reallyjoel> hopw do i open grubs menu.lst so that im allowed to save it
[07:39] <alesan> Scunizi, ok but is there some action to take, like apply for a registration on the ubuntu side or similar?
[07:39] <gektor> onestep, 
[07:39] <Scunizi> arnath, someone else will have to confirm but that card might not work with the driver built into ubuntu.  If you change the driver listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "nv" then do the ctrl+alt+bkspace it might fix it.
[07:39] <onestep> gektor,   UTF-8? ;)
[07:39] <gektor>  
[07:39] <stefg> alesan: better see ubuntu.com and ask canonical, IANAL. But i don't think that's a problem
[07:39] <anto> Dose anyone here know when flashplayer 9 will come out of linux amd64?
[07:39] <Scunizi> alesan, couldn't really say.. maybe someone here knows better.
[07:39] <alesan> ok :)
[07:39] <darkchr0n0s> to install sdk, i need to install sun-java6-sdk, correct?
[07:40] <arnath> Scunizi: ok
[07:40] <animimotus> hello
[07:40] <animimotus> how to decrompress a dat.gz? it's seems not to be a tar
[07:40] <gektor> onestep, ..    
[07:40] <t3318_> anyone change the default theme of Ubuntu for new user?
[07:40] <Tonren> I'm trying to record in Audacity.  All of my input volumes are maxed out (in my ALSA mixer and in Audacity itself), but I can still barely hear my recordings.  What's going on?
[07:40] <onestep> animimotus, gunzip file.dat.gz
[07:40] <darkchr0n0s> animimotus : rightclick and select extract here
[07:40] <onestep> then check what's it - file file.dat
[07:41] <animimotus> darkchr0n0s: in a script ;)
[07:41] <animimotus> onestep: thx
[07:41] <Gary> stefg: i choose "install in normal mode" and it came the ubuntu symbol and a loading bar, it load for a while  , but then nothing happened
[07:41] <t3318_> anyone change the default theme of Ubuntu for new user?
[07:41] <stefg> Gary: so try the 'safe mode' and see if you get any message
[07:41] <onestep> t3318_, smth in /etc/skel maybe ;)
[07:41] <hume> i have kerry installed - but the beagle folder grows very large. Is there a way to limit its size?
[07:41] <Gary> stefg: it happened the same
[07:41] <t3318_> onestep: yep
[07:41] <epsilorn> Hi all, got a problem: i've got an ATI hd 2400 it seems working 'cause fglxgears run smoothly, the problem is when i start openarena it runs well but when i try to change video setting it crashes
[07:42] <anto> NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering.
[07:42] <t3318_> onestep: I think that's right
[07:42] <reallyjoel> How do i open GRUB's "menu.lst" so that I'm allowed to save it?
[07:42] <usr13> reallyjoel: sudo
[07:42] <reallyjoel> (in a text editor)
[07:42] <gektor> reallyjoel, sudo nano
[07:42] <Evanlec> reallyjoel, sudo vim
[07:42] <ehc> is there a way to see which ubuntu version you have through a shell?
[07:42] <t3318_> onestep: i can change the default theme, but when i change the background image, the desktop crashed :(
[07:42] <stefg> Gary: you might need to pass additional parameters to fix irq or acpi problems
[07:42] <Evanlec> ehc, uname -a
[07:42] <stefg> !boot | gary
[07:42] <ubotu> gary: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:42] <usr13> reallyjoel: sudo vim menu.list
[07:42] <t3318_> onestep: i dont know why :(
[07:43] <uguestu> hi- when i first installed ubuntu i got the startup sound after logon and all sounds were working fine.. now i can not here nothing when playing music, or when i log in i cannot hear the startup sound.. any help?
[07:43] <usr13> reallyjoel:  sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <nymo> can someone help me?
[07:43] <t3318_> anyone know Amaranth?
[07:43] <t3318_> where is he?
[07:43] <ehc> Evanlec, it just says GNU/Linux
[07:44] <usr13> reallyjoel: sudo <favorite-text-editor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:44] <ehc> Evanlec, 2.6.15-23-386 is the other info
[07:44] <uguestu> hi- when i first installed ubuntu i got the startup sound after logon and all sounds were working fine.. now i can not here nothing when playing music, or when i log in i cannot hear the startup sound.. any help?
[07:44] <gektor> how can I patch kde2 under freebsd?
[07:45] <stefg> !sound | uguestu
[07:45] <reallyjoel> usr13, thanks
[07:45] <ubotu> uguestu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:45] <nymo> I can't log in with any ethernet interface active
[07:45] <Some_ux> how do i check the available disk space (commandline)?
[07:45] <gektor> Some_ux, df -h
[07:45] <gektor> Some_ux, or just df
[07:45] <stefg> !cli | Some_ux
[07:45] <ubotu> Some_ux: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:46] <TLF> !locales
[07:46] <TLF> !locale
[07:46] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:46] <Gary> stefg: i try to install ubuntu now and change the boot options......
[07:46] <arnath> how do you quit x again?
[07:47] <stefg> arnath: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[07:47] <not_a_k> arnath: hard question to answer...
[07:47] <i_enjoy_arch> lol
[07:47] <i_enjoy_arch> not_a_k, you are fucking noob
[07:47] <uguestu> stefg- what bot is ubotu?
[07:47] <not_a_k> arnath: ctrl-alt-f1 will drop you to a terminal
[07:47] <onestep> arnath, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:47] <stefg> !ubotu
[07:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:48] <Neo1607> hi
[07:48] <not_a_k> ctrl-alt-backspace will kill it
[07:48] <arnath> onestep: this reboots x
[07:48] <not_a_k> but if you have a display manager running it will restart
[07:48] <i_enjoy_arch> init 3
[07:48] <arnath> (im in the livecd)
[07:48] <Neo1607> i need some help please if anyone is around
[07:48] <arnath> problem is, i cant do the damn live install, because my resolution is too small to fit the entire live cd thing (so i cant press any buttons...) and i have ot install the nvidia drivers to make my res work
[07:48] <uguestu> stefg- is it downlodable and customizable?
[07:49] <stefg> uguestu: ask #ubuntu-ops, i don't know
[07:49] <usr13> Neo1607: NO, no one is here, well maybe a few hundred of us or so, but go ahead, what is your question?  :)
[07:49] <Neo1607> i just installed ubuntu last night and used gparted to shrink my windows XP ntfs partition, i can boot ubuntu from grub but when i select windows XP it just says   Starting...     but never loads :/
[07:49] <not_a_k> arnath: i suggest doing the command line install then and just installing your drivers once you boot.
[07:50] <not_a_k> the curses install rather
[07:50] <Neo1607> i have never had that problem before, and i have dual booted plenty of times before :S
[07:50] <arnath> not_a_k: but this would mean the "alternate" cd ye?
[07:50] <onestep> or DVD
[07:50] <arnath> not_a_k: or can i do a text install from the normal one
[07:50] <arnath> ?
[07:50] <usr13> Neo1607: You mave have shrunk XP to much...?
[07:50] <onestep> arnath, nope
[07:50] <carlosfarah> I want tools for programer Web.....
[07:50] <lordhelmet> `/quit
[07:50] <arnath> bah, another 700 meg from my limit then :<
[07:51] <INTit> did you defrag xp first ?
[07:51] <carlosfarah> I am Brazilian....
[07:51] <usr13> Neo1607: It's a good idea to do defrag before shrinking a MS partition.
[07:51] <stefg> Neo1607: your windows might need a chkdsk. are you able to look on the windows partition using ubuntu?
[07:51] <Tanel> hey
[07:51] <Pici> !br | carlosfarah
[07:51] <ubotu> carlosfarah: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:51] <Neo1607> i can look at xp partition from ubuntu yeah
[07:51] <carlosfarah> Yes
[07:51] <carlosfarah> Br
[07:51] <not_a_k> arnath: hmm. i've upgraded through the last few releases.. so i'm not sure. pre dapper you could do the curses install. it might have been the only option though.
[07:51] <carlosfarah> OK
[07:51] <Neo1607> and i didn't do a defrag coz XP was only installed about 4 - 5 days ago, didn't think it would need it
[07:51] <usr13> Neo1607: But the problem may be not so serious and easily fixed.  Don't give up just yet.
[07:52] <Tanel> i have problem with my printer PIXMA 160 i dont have drivers
[07:52] <usr13> Neo1607: Yes, you're right.
[07:52] <INTit> latest version of ubuntu seems buggy as hell
[07:52] <erUSUL> INTit: which one?
[07:52] <INTit> i had endless probs
[07:52] <stefg> Neo1607: so boot up you windows cd to rescue console and perform a chkdsk. But although this might be related to a ubuntu install, this is not a windows support channel, so you'd better ask ##windows
[07:52] <erUSUL> INTit: the one that is still beta?
[07:53] <usr13> You should post menu.lst on pastebin.org and give us link.  Myabe something amiss there.
[07:53] <erUSUL> INTit: ;P
[07:53] <INTit> feisty fawn
[07:53] <INTit> no
[07:53] <Tanel> i have problem with my printer PIXMA 160 i dont have drivers
[07:53] <Neo1607> ok i post my menu.lst on pastebin
[07:53] <usr13> Neo1607: You should post menu.lst on pastebin.org and give us link.  Myabe something amiss there.
[07:53] <Tanel> where i can find them
[07:53] <DragonionS> Hi!
[07:53] <adlisyakir> how to dual boot...? why i'm installed vista first and then ubuntu... vista is finish? .. why not dual bootbale
[07:53] <stefg> !dualboot
[07:53] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[07:54] <erUSUL> INTit: well that's your experience/opinion others have different (good) experiences/opinions... you can not make such a generalization based only in your experience imho
[07:54] <DragonionS> What shold I write to upgrade my Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10?
[07:54] <stefg> !upgrade | DragonionS
[07:54] <ubotu> DragonionS: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:54] <Some_ux> how do i change a user's primary group ?
[07:54] <erUSUL> !upgrade | DragonionS
[07:54] <Neo1607> http://pastebin.com/d48b89b4e   <--- my  menu.lst
[07:54] <linux4me> anyone here use lvs-dr on ubuntu fiesty?
[07:54] <stefg> !gutsy | DragonionS
[07:54] <ubotu> DragonionS: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:54] <uguestu> !live.fm
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about live.fm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <uguestu> stefg- How do I install live.fm on ubuntu?
[07:54] <i_enjoy_arch> draconius,  rm -rf/
[07:54] <DragonionS> Thanks! =)
[07:55] <INTit> judging by the amount of people i found on goolgle with the same issue  i can :P
[07:55] <DragonionS> Very, very thank you!
[07:55] <stefg> uguestu: no idea
[07:55] <erUSUL> !ops | i_enjoy_arch
[07:55] <ubotu> i_enjoy_arch: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[07:55] <DoYouKnow> DragonionS, no that's not the command lol
[07:55] <INTit> when selecting install it would take me to a command prompt with /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[07:56] <DragonionS> I see.
[07:56] <INTit> took me ages to find a solution
[07:56] <INTit> thats before ubuntu is even installed :\
[07:56] <DoYouKnow> DragonionS, he is just saying that you have to delete your ubuntu partitions and start over
[07:56] <uguestu> stefg- If I update to gutsy can I go back without re-installing?
[07:56] <stefg> uguestu: no
[07:57] <uguestu> stefg- How buddy is gutsy at the moment?
[07:57] <Some_ux> nm, done
[07:57] <LinuxJuggalo> =\
[07:57] <VHAIN> :-)
[07:57] <Neo1607> i am still on  6.10 lol, i ain't used my new 7.04 disk yet
[07:58] <Neo1607> i will update when i get this dual boot problem sorted
[07:58] <Furionn> I have eggdrop-install.sh file what is the available command to start to install?
[07:58] <generalsnus> is there a way to display drives in "Computer" like on vista?  kinda a bar that shows how full the drive is
[07:58] <not_a_k> Furionn: chmod +x eggdrop-install.sh; ./eggdrop-install.sh
[07:58] <not_a_k> Furionn: or sh eggdrop-install.sh
[07:59] <Tanel> i have problem with my printer PIXMA MP 160 i dont have drivers
[07:59] <erUSUL> generalsnus: Apps>Accesories>Disk Space analizer
[07:59] <INTit> sounds like windows is corrupt
[07:59] <PKdoR> I need to manually install Vuze 3.0.3.0 Can some one walk me through please??
[07:59] <AncientRelic> generalsnus: and Gutsy has the Windows pie chart
[07:59] <Dr_willis> Tanel,  some of those canon printers have NO linux support at all.. check cups.org for your specific printer.
[08:00] <Furionn> not_a_k: it says cant open eggdrop-install.sh why can this happen?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> Tanel,  in the future i am not going to buy Canon again. (at least not withoug doing some research first) :)
[08:00] <SimSim> afternoon, I have an issue, when I reboot my pc it doesn't load my nvidia, I have to kill gdm, rmmod nvidia, then startx and then it loads nvidia as normal, how can I fix this?
[08:00] <PKdoR> Evanlec: do you know how to manually install tars?
[08:01] <VHAIN> Furionn: did you navigated to the directory including eggdrop-install.sh?
[08:01] <generalsnus> yeah.. disk analyzer shows a bar/%/free space  ..was hoping to get that when i wanted to browse computer aswell
[08:01] <titun> i. have to do acpi=off while booting, as my touchpad hangs without it, but audio does not work with ACPI Off. Can i expect this will be solved in 7.10 release?
[08:01] <Tanel> no but this one have but i dount know how to install them
[08:01] <Furionn> no VHAIN im newbie, a detailed info would be appreciated :)
[08:01] <VHAIN> aha...
[08:02] <VHAIN> Furionn: press Alt + F2 to show Program starter
[08:02] <PKdoR> I need to manually install Vuze 3.0.3.0 Can some one walk me through please??
[08:02] <VHAIN> Furionn: and type "gnome-terminal" + Enter
[08:02] <SimSim> need help, When I reboot my pc it doesn't load my nvidia, I have to kill gdm, rmmod nvidia, then startx and then it loads nvidia as normal, how can I fix this?
[08:02] <Tanel> how i can open .rpm file
[08:02] <Furionn> yeah i am on gnome-terminal anyway VHAIN
[08:02] <VHAIN> Furionn: type "cd " + some directory including eggdrop_install.sh + Enter
[08:03] <Neo1607> so can anyone help me with my dual boot problem? :S
[08:03] <uguestu> Anyone know how to install live.fm on Ubuntu?
[08:03] <usr13> Neo1607: Any particular reason why you installed 6.10 instead of 7.04?
[08:03] <VHAIN> Furionn: if...you downloaded it into Desktop, you should type "cd ~/Desktop"
[08:03] <darkchr0n0s> uguestu use synaptic package manager
[08:03] <VHAIN>  also enter
[08:03] <Neo1607> coz i was to lazy to go upstairs and get my 7.04 disc
[08:03] <generalsnus> oh, and does anyone knows if nvidia fan control works now..i have a 8800gtx..last time i tried, the fan speed couldnt be adjusted
[08:04] <Tanel> how i can open .rpm file
[08:04] <Neo1607> i have tried it with 7.04 and it didn't work either, so i uninstalled and reinstalled 6.10
[08:04] <SimSim> Tanel, no deb version of what you want?
[08:04] <titun> can i expect this problem will be solved in Gutsy Gibbon, on normal boot my touchpad+keyboard hangs, so i have to do ACPI=Off which takes away my audio??
[08:04] <SimSim> you can convert it though
[08:04] <Furionn> it says " not a directory " even though its right VHAIN
[08:04] <Pici> titun: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions please.
[08:05] <titun> Pici: ah ok :)
[08:05] <uguestu> Anyone got screenshots of Gutsy?
[08:05] <VHAIN> Furionn: hmm... did you downloaded it to Desktop?
[08:05] <bruenig> !ot | unjustice
[08:05] <ubotu> unjustice: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:05] <Neo1607> gutsy is still in beta is it not?
[08:05] <Furionn> yeah VHAIN
[08:05] <Some_ux> man pages are not very readable, what does useradd -D do
[08:05] <SimSim> 15 days left.
[08:05] <Some_ux> ?
[08:05] <bruenig> uguestu, looks the same as all the other ubuntu releases
[08:05] <VHAIN> Furionn: then, try "cd ~/Desktop"
[08:05] <Tanel> no deb file'
[08:05] <uguestu> bruenig- oh ok.
[08:05] <uguestu> how buggy is gutsy at the moment, in percentage terms?
[08:05] <bruenig> little changes, python front end development occurs but nothing else
[08:05] <Furionn> VHAIN:  yeah then?
[08:06] <VHAIN> Furionn: type "chmod +x eggdrop_install.sh"
[08:06] <VHAIN> also enter
[08:06] <GTN> poiu
[08:06] <GTN> popov
[08:06] <Pici> !alien | Tanel
[08:06] <ubotu> Tanel: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:06] <Pici> uguestu: I advise against installing Gutsy until final has been released.
[08:07] <ward_> ward1983, hi
[08:07] <Furionn> VHAIN:  it said nothing now,
[08:07] <usr13> Neo1607: menu.lst looks ok.  Since you've installed twice with same outcome, I tend to believe there is something wrong with MS Windows... not sure but, at any rate, it doesn't appear to be missconfigured menu.lst
[08:07] <Tanel> i want ti install PIXMA MP 160 and i have drivers but i dont know howw to open them
[08:07] <VHAIN> Furionn: yeah. that's good. and next, type "./eggdrop_install.sh"
[08:07] <brobostigon> will gutsy be available for powerpc.
[08:07] <saritor> I have an interesting bug. When I go to shutdown my laptop using gnomes pretty graphic way gnome will actually lock up. If I restart X (ctrl+atl+backspce) when it reloads GDM I can then shutdown with the nice graphic there normally. Otherwise the only other way to shutdown is via CLI.
[08:07] <uguestu> Pici- ok
[08:07] <Neo1607> usr13 so do you have any suggestions on how i can fix this?
[08:08] <VHAIN> Furionn: sorry about my poor english :-)
[08:08] <Neo1607> coz it was fine up until i installed linux :S   and like i said, i have done this before without a problem
[08:08] <bruenig> saritor, write a shutdown script write a sudoers exception and keep it in the panel to click
[08:08] <SimSim> I reboot my pc it doesn't load my nvidia, I have to kill gdm, rmmod nvidia, then startx and then it loads nvidia as normal, how can I fix this?
[08:08] <Furionn> VHAIN:  its good enough VHAIN, i installed that now and now i have a page with black and blue
[08:08] <usr13> Neo1607: You might see if you can use a MS DOS boot disk and see if you can boot into the XP OS that way.
[08:08] <Neo1607> well i can load repair console from the XP disc,  but i have no idea what to do then :P
[08:09] <ward1983> nice im on irc with my psp :-)
[08:09] <INTit> enabling desktop effects causes everything to crash for me, think this will still happen on the next stable release ?
[08:09] <saritor> bruenig, probably the easiest way to do it eh? I was hoping to find a possible fix oh well. =p
[08:09] <AncientRelic> INTit: What video card?
[08:09] <VHAIN> Furionn: hmm... wait for me...
[08:09] <SimSim> ward, DS pwns psp :)
[08:09] <Furionn> VHAIN:  im here waiting :)
[08:10] <Dial_tone> anyone know any linux compatible inkjets currently on the market? openprinting DB lists oold models
[08:10] <usr13> Neo1607: Well, first make a Linux boot disk, and then use the repair console from the XP disc and do fdisk /mbr
[08:10] <gnuskool> voyager pwns iphone
[08:10] <Neo1607> SimSim, correction,   ds HOMEBREW pwns psp homebrew :D
[08:10] <INTit> intel | Intel GMA X3100 its on a laptop
[08:10] <erUSUL> Neo1607: if you want to erase grub and install the XP bootloader use fixmbr
[08:10] <SimSim> correct.
[08:10] <bruenig> saritor, that is a fix
[08:10] <SimSim> used svsip the other day
[08:10] <SimSim> was nice making calls via the ds :)
[08:10] <usr13> Neo1607: see if that will get your beloved XP to boot. OR... try:
[08:10] <usr13> http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:11] <e\ectro_> has anyone been able to get LDAP working with Ubuntu where it works well?
[08:11] <BioPo1> Hi, I could really use some help regrading RT61 on feisty.
[08:11] <VHAIN> Furionn: R U trying to install Egg Drop. am i right?
[08:11] <usr13> Neo1607: ... another route, some other boot disk options.
[08:11] <saritor> bruenig, well I meant making work the way it used to. Unless I missed something in your reply...
[08:11] <INTit> any ideas AncientRelic ?
[08:11] <Furionn> yeah VHAIN
[08:11] <VHAIN> Furionn: where did you downloaded it?
[08:12] <jeremia> hi
[08:12] <Furionn> pm'ed you the link
[08:12] <Neo1607> usr13 what bootdisk did u tell me to get?    xp or linux
[08:12] <AncientRelic> X3100 is pretty new
[08:12] <genii> Some_ux: Did you get an answer on how to change a user's primary group? If not: sudo usermod -g newgroupname username
[08:12] <Furionn> VHAIN: i did pm the link
[08:12] <AncientRelic> INTit: You might be waiting for better drivers
[08:12] <Some_ux> genii: yep, i figured it out.
[08:13] <INTit> ok
[08:13] <jeb> I'm trying to  install ubuntu on a laptop with an extremly slow cdrom-drive
[08:13] <Some_ux> now i need to figure out what the group users is
[08:13] <mekk> Hello all! I have turned off my computer while KWrite was running and now i get this error everytime i log intu KDE: The file file:///root/Desktop/easycam could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[08:13] <mekk> Check if you have read access to this file.
[08:13] <jeb> I tried different install methods copying the iso content onto the harddrive
[08:13] <jeb> but still, the installer fails
[08:13] <jeb> so i ended up with the debootstrap method
[08:14] <gnuskool> jeb, you verify the cd?
[08:14] <jeb> but this fails with the following message: devices.tar.gz not found
[08:14] <mekk> how to fix it? i've tried to remove the kwrite file from .kde/share/config/session but no luck, the file autogenerates itself
[08:14] <eichi> hello, i got an error on installing the software at the install...disc problem..doenst matter..which package do i need to install this? is there a "ubuntu-base-package" or something like that?
[08:14] <jeb> gnuskool: no I didn't, but used both, the alternate and the desktop cd, so i think at least one of them should be ok
[08:14] <Neo1607> would a live cd work as a linux boot disk :D ?
[08:15] <Furionn> VHAIN: downloaded yet?
[08:15] <jeb> I also tried the minimal-cd
[08:15] <usr13> Neo1607: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html
[08:15] <UBUNTU02> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/ubuntu.html
[08:15] <VHAIN> Furionn: hmm... i'm now talking you on pm
[08:15] <Flats> I'm currently running Ubuntu 7.04 If I load ultimate 1.5 does that overwrite everything and install a new copy?
[08:15] <usr13> Neo1607: no, not for what you want it to do.
[08:16] <Neo1607> i think i have corrupted the NTFS partition, only thing is, i can still read all the contents on the drive :S
[08:16] <Pici> Flats: You'll need to talk to the Ultimate people about that.  Ubuntu Ultimate is a 3rd party modification of Ubuntu and is not supported by us.
[08:16] <Flats> OK
[08:16] <jeb> i've readen that it can take hours to install the system and it seems to be stuckt, but an 2GHz Celecron doesn't seem slow to me
[08:16] <INTit> stick the windows disk in and do a repair
[08:16] <usr13> Neo1607: If you have coorrupted the NTFS partition, I think you will have to re-install MS Windows
[08:16] <jeb> any idea?
[08:17] <titun> i have searched the forum, but the methods proposed are too complicated to solve my ACPI=off problem, is there a easy solution as of now?
[08:17] <john1212> ok how do i fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39465/
[08:17] <Neo1607> aww fuck it D:  i don't wanna have to re-install windows :S  plus i have used my cd-key twice, it won't activate again :/
[08:17] <usr13> Neo1607: Since you have 6.10 instead of 7.04, I would suggest starting all over - period.
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Neo1607
[08:17] <ubotu> Neo1607: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:17] <Neo1607> sorry :S
[08:17] <Some_ux> new problem, i can figure how i can add a new user with a new home dir with one command
[08:17] <Some_ux> cant
[08:18] <ilantz> hi
[08:18] <eck> Some_ux: um, what command are you using to add a new user?
[08:18] <eck> adduser should create a home directory
[08:18] <Some_ux> useradd
[08:18] <Neo1607> is there a way to play steam games on linux at the same speed windows would play them?
[08:18] <kane77> how can I maximize my batery time? are there any power saving options? because battery in vista lasts 3:30 and in ubuntu mere 2:00-2:20
[08:18] <titun> is there an easy solution to ACPI=Off problems as of now?
[08:18] <Neo1607> thatz really the only reason i still got windows
[08:18] <eck> use adduser, not useradd
[08:18] <usr13> Neo1607: Well, fish around with some boot disks, but It may be a lost cause.
[08:19] <gnuskool> Neo1607: shouldnt u be able to reinstall xp as many times as you want on the same pc?
[08:19] <usr13> Neo1607: what streams?
[08:19] <Some_ux> thanks
[08:19] <Zhaz> Hello anyone had problem with digital audio?
[08:19] <john1212> ok how do i fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39465/
[08:19] <ilantz> Neo1607, wolf ET is native linux ;)
[08:19] <Neo1607> i meant STEAM, as in the content delivery program from valve
[08:19] <Neo1607> :D
[08:19] <VHAIN> Furionn: I think.. something wrong with pm... i can read your message but.. it seems that you cannot read my message..
[08:19] <huXfluX> Check if you have read access to this file.
[08:20] <huXfluX> Hello all! I have turned off my computer while KWrite was running and now i get this error everytime i log intu KDE: The file file:///root/Desktop/easycam could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
[08:20] <Pici> VHAIN: you need to register on freenode to send pm's
[08:20] <huXfluX> how to fix it? i've tried to remove the kwrite file from .kde/share/config/session but no luck, the file autogenerates itself
[08:20] <Furionn> VHAIN:  hmm shall we go on here?
[08:20] <Neo1607> gnuskool apparently not :S  i tried installing my official XP on a virtual PC and it says my code has been used to many times :S
[08:20] <john1212> VHAIN:  u have to be registerd to send messages
[08:20] <Pici> Furionn: VHAIN, you can also join an empty channel if you want to. like ##vhain
[08:20] <Zhaz> Nowone?
[08:20] <Furionn> VHAIN:  im there :)
[08:20] <_Johny> Does anyone can recommend me a good app for making screenshots under Ubuntu? I'm using XFCE
[08:20] <VHAIN> thanks ohn!
[08:21] <Pici> Neo1607: fyi, this is offtopic, but you can just call microsoft up and say you're installing on the same computer, I've done it many times.
[08:21] <john1212> ok how do i fix this i get this when trying to add someone and sign on to msn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39465/
[08:21] <usr13> _Johny: DOes anything happen when you hit PrintScreen?
[08:21] <eck> _Johny: there are some command line ones like scrot, xfce probably has its own screenshot util though
[08:21] <Neo1607> Pici ok :)
[08:21] <usr13> button
[08:21] <_Johny> usr13: No, nothing
[08:22] <_Johny> usr13: under Gnome it happened becouse there was a deamon active
[08:22] <titun> come on friends, atleast tell me if there is no solution, u guys must be knowing, is there an easy solution for ACPI=Off problem as of now??
[08:22] <eck> _Johny: that's not right
[08:22] <_Johny> eck: What is the name of the tool you just mentioned?
[08:22] <eck> _Johny: it's handled by metacity
[08:22] <eck> _Johny: scrot
[08:23] <akirak> hi!
[08:23] <Zhaz> Anyone had problem with digital audio? I get regular audio to work but not digital
[08:23] <john1212>  ok how do i fix this i get this when trying to add someone and sign on to msn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39465/
[08:23] <_Johny> eck: I'm using fmv not Metacity
[08:23] <Y3k> edgy = ubuntu version 6 right?
[08:23] <akirak> i need help installing an ubuntu 6.10
[08:23] <_Johny> eck: FMW it's the default window manager in XFCE
[08:23] <eck> _Johny: i was just pointing out that gnome doesn't run a daemon for that sort of stuff
[08:23] <gnuskool> akirak: wots the problem?
[08:24] <_Johny> eck: Ah...missunderstood
[08:24] <akirak> i have a nforce 400 chipset, and dont recognize it
[08:24] <akirak> i can only run the live cd
[08:25] <_Johny> eck: I'm installing scrot now...just eager to see what happens
[08:25] <titun> Y3k: yes 6.10 to be exact
[08:25] <jukam> Yo all
[08:26] <usr13> _Johny: intall imagemagick, and use the 'import' command from the console
[08:26] <eck> _Johny: you run it like scrot -d 5 -c
[08:26] <john1212> how stable is gutsy?
[08:27] <netcrash__> I have syslogd using port 514 althought I haven't set the option -r anywhere , ps aux does not show -r ... Why is it opening 514 ( have seen this using netstat -uanp )
[08:27] <Neo1607> whatz the terminal command to check my root partition again?
[08:27] <_Johny> eck: Fine, thank you
[08:27] <eck> Neo1607: fsck
[08:27] <john1212> how stable is gutsy?????
[08:28] <Neo1607> fsck will cause severe damage apparently :S
[08:28] <usr13> john1212: about as stable as an earthquake --  sorry, couldn't resist -- just teasing -- but you might also like to ask on #ubuntu+1
[08:28] <Enselic> john1212: in my experience very stable
[08:28] <seths> can someone offer some help, im running XDMCP on my gateway machine and its extreamly slow, im connecting to it from Ubuntu 7.1 (gateway is Xubuntu 7.04)
[08:29] <seths> its so slow its pretty much unusable, is that XDMCP in general?
[08:29] <Some_ux> i would like to grand access to a directory to all users which belong to a specific group
[08:29] <Some_ux> grant
[08:29] <john1212> Enselic:  u join me in room #wwed please i wana ask u some thngs bout it
[08:30] <eck> Some_ux: chgrp -R the directory
[08:30] <netcrash__> I have syslogd using port 514 althought I haven't set the option -r anywhere , ps aux does not show -r ... Why is it opening 514 ( have seen this using netstat -uanp ) ... Nevermind was doing remote loging to a machine and syslog for that opens port 514 udp
[08:30] <usr13> Neo1607: I don't think you should run fsck on ntfs.  But you might use a MS boot disk and run scandisk or something native to MS / NTFS.
[08:30] <jukam> netcrash__:
[08:31] <Enselic> john1212: that's what #ubuntu+1 is for
[08:31] <_Johny> eck: Sorry, but it doesn't work look --> johny@johny-laptop:~/Desktop$ scrot -d 5 -c operaTaking shot in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1.. 0.
[08:31] <_Johny> giblib error: Saving to file opera failed
[08:31] <Vlet> Does anyone else here find that mysqladministrator is EXTREMELY unstable?
[08:32] <cliechti> seths: the X window protocol uses a lots of acknowledgments and is thus sensible to large round trip times (ping ...) you might try NX or vnc (with ssh tunnel for the later)
[08:32] <PriceChild> there we go
[08:32] <eck> _Johny: weird, i just noticed that too... are you running gutsy? it must be a regression
[08:33] <rayzs> hi
[08:34] <_Johny> No, feisty
[08:34] <_Johny> eck: No, Feisty
[08:34] <seths> cliechti: thanks, ill give NX a go, i tried to get vnc running using a guide i found on the forums but there was something wrong with the password afaik, since after connecting and typing the password the client quits
[08:35] <gelo> Helo
[08:35] <eck> _Johny: well i'm going to file a bug on it, i'm not sure what other programs there are... maybe you should ask in the xfce channel to see what they are using
[08:35] <cliechti> seths: i did not like the weird package NX delivers. i'm sill using vnc. did not have any problems with it. just use vnc4server package
[08:36] <themad> Hello  I've got a problem with xdtv. I can't schedule recording. When I press shedule recording the window flashes, and it don't work. Could someone help?
[08:36] <_Johny> eck: Resolved :) I just added *.jpg* extension to the output file and it worked
[08:36] <PKdoR> whats the command to list thing within a folder on the term?
[08:36] <cliechti> PKdoR: "ls"?
[08:36] <cliechti> ls -lh
[08:37] <themad> Hello  I've got a problem with xdtv. I can't schedule recording. When I press shedule recording the window flashes, and it don't work. Could someone help?
[08:37] <_Johny> eck: So, the output format must be specified
[08:37] <usr13> PKdoR: ls /path/to/directory/
[08:38] <ganesh>  _Johny:how can i know which graphics card i have and that supports beryl??
[08:38] <stinkyfoot> how can install a program from an executable
[08:38] <themad> stinkyfoot,  but what executable
[08:38] <stinkyfoot> when i type ./program it says i don't have permission but sudo ./program isn't a recognized command
[08:38] <PKdoR> thanks
[08:38] <Enselic> stinkyfoot:refer to the installation instructions of the porgram
[08:39] <stinkyfoot> enselic
[08:39] <stinkyfoot> installation instructions on page:  Installation : download and run the installer as root ("./texmaker_linux_installer" or "sudo ./texmaker_linux_installer" on ubuntu - make the file executable before, if necessary).
[08:39] <Some_ux> ok, so now i need to give read/write/execute options to owner and to the group for a directory
[08:39] <cliechti> stinkyfoot: the execution flag must be set and your user must have read persmissions on that file
[08:39] <Losos> please someone help, i am in dead end with my sound card
[08:39] <gelo> czy ktos rozmawia po polsku?
[08:39] <themad> tak
[08:39] <stinkyfoot> how i use gksudo or sudo or something to do it anyway
[08:39] <themad> ja
[08:39] <_Johny> ganesh: I'd begin with going on the compiz (not beryl) site ad looking there, or, just put "compiz +(your card)" in google
[08:39] <stinkyfoot> cliechti
[08:39] <stinkyfoot> haha are you russian dude?
[08:40] <gelo> to fajnie
[08:40] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: if you type  sudo ./program  exactly what does it say?
[08:40] <themad> no xD
[08:40] <Pici> !pl | gelo
[08:40] <ubotu> gelo: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:40] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./: command not found
[08:40] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./: command not found
[08:40] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./: command not found
[08:40] <themad> ale na polski ubuntu jest odzieln y kana
[08:40] <nickrud> Some_ux: chmod ug+rwx <directory> (you may need sudo)
[08:40] <stinkyfoot> woops
[08:40] <Losos> rrrr, no one to help me?;)
[08:40] <_Johny> ganesh: If you want to know what GC you've got , just put " lshw |grep -i video" in your terminal window
[08:40] <gelo> oki dzieki
[08:40] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: you don't have a space between ./ and program, right?
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> nope enselic
[08:41] <ganesh>  _Johny:whats diff between compiz and beryl??
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> btw i'm running bash in xubuntu
[08:41] <Some_ux> cool
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> maybe it's different
[08:41] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: hand on I'll try this myself
[08:41] <_Johny> stinkyfoot: Is sudo installed?
[08:41] <Some_ux> nickrud: thanks
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> of course
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> i mean
[08:41] <kkathman> ganesh:  beryl is a dead product - compiz and beryl merged
[08:41] <stinkyfoot> how can it not be
[08:41] <kkathman> ganesh:  the new product is compiz-fusion
[08:42] <xerophyte4>  i have setup the master dns server it works fine, then i setup the slave dns server, and configured the zones to be salve, when start the salve nameserver  .. its not downloading the zone files from master .. w
[08:42] <themad> Hello  I've got a problem with xdtv. I can't schedule recording. When I press shedule recording the window flashes, and it don't work. Could someone help?
[08:42] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: works for me, are you sure you are in the terminal and not some other porgram?
[08:42] <onestep> kkathman, Beryl is still supported, AFAIR
[08:42] <Shapeshifter> small question: It just occured to me that Firefox wasn't responding, so I used the crash handler and pointed on its window, so it went away. but I wasn't able to restart it because apparently it was still running. What do I have to do to definitly kill it? killall firefox didn't work
[08:42] <seths> cliechti: i followed this guide for vnc (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402) and when i try to open the viewer from a terminal window and enter the password i put in the .vncpasswd file i only get an "End of stream" message
[08:42] <stinkyfoot> of course i'm sure
[08:42] <Pici> Shapeshifter: killall firefox-bin
[08:42] <PKdoR> I get an error when trying to install vuze manually It says : Error exit delayed from previous errors Can some one please help??
[08:42] <kkathman> onestep:  supported - hmmm well as is, yes, but there's no future
[08:42] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: if you type 'exit'  what happends?
[08:42] <stinkyfoot> im sorry this is the actual error
[08:43] <Shapeshifter> Pici: ^^ okaay so it's that simple ;)
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./: command not found
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./: command not found
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> one second
[08:43] <usr13> Shapeshifter: ps aux |grep firefox  and then kill the pid
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> sudo ./texmaker_linux_installer
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> sudo: ./texmaker_linux_installer: command not found
[08:43] <Pici> !paste | stinkyfoot
[08:43] <ubotu> stinkyfoot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:43] <_Johny> ganesh: Now you know how to handle?
[08:43] <Enselic> usr13: pkill firefox   is easeir
[08:43] <stinkyfoot> sorry
[08:43] <Y3k> what's a wm that is lighter than xfce but still fairly user friendly? (fvwm-crystal seem good but i got some bugs on it)
[08:43] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Ok I'll rember that
[08:43] <nickrud> stinkyfoot: maybe a silly question, but did you make texmaker... executable?
[08:43] <genii> I dunno if lighter but fluxbox ain't bad
[08:43] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: are you sure you are in the directory where texmaker_linux_instaler is?
[08:43] <usr13> Enselic: Ok, good... thanks
[08:44] <Enselic> usr13: pkill even has tab completion   just  pkill fire<TAB> works :)
[08:44] <stinkyfoot> 100%
[08:44] <stinkyfoot> actually
[08:44] <Pici> stinkyfoot: is it set +x?
[08:44] <ganesh> _Johny:even if i give cirrect password it saya authentication failed..
[08:44] <stinkyfoot> how do i make it executable?
[08:45] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: chmod +x program
[08:45] <Y3k> i'll try it out and see what happens
[08:45] <Otacon22> Where can i find information to became a ubuntu developer?
[08:45] <usr13> Enselic: Yes, that works rather well, Thanks a lot.  Never tried pkill before.
[08:45] <stinkyfoot> i write chmod it'll just show flags?
[08:45] <stinkyfoot> if i write
[08:45] <Pici> !contribute | Otacon22 try here
[08:45] <ubotu> Otacon22 try here: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[08:45] <Otacon22> tnx
[08:45] <Kee1> hi, I've installed ubuntu and everything worked perfect up until now when after a restart my soundcard stopped, it was definitely working before, any ideas on how to find out what's wrong?
[08:45] <docta_v> hey guys, when i connect with ssh -X to an ubuntu system, my $DISPLAY doesn't get set
[08:45] <genii> stinkyfoot:  use man chmod  or chmod --help   to see options for usage
[08:45] <docta_v> even though x forwarding is allowed in the server config
[08:45] <docta_v> anyone know what's up with this?
[08:46] <cliechti> seths: ok, i never ran it behind xinetd. but an end of stream sounds like the vnc server is not started or exits too early
[08:46] <Zhaz> Anyone have a good tip on how to get digital audio playback to work? 5.1?
[08:46] <nickrud> Kee1: right click the volume control and select open volume control, make sure all the outputs are up
[08:46] <Kee1> yes I've checked that
[08:47] <Some_ux> having some trouble with samba. I have removed a directory which was previously shared, now windows still thinks it exists
[08:47] <Kee1> maybe I should reinstall ALSA
[08:47] <stinkyfoot> genii i did but it doesn't say anything about seeing the flags of all the files in the dir
[08:47] <nickrud> oh, well, the pcm always is 0 when I have that problem
[08:47] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: to see the permissions on the files in the dir, type   ls -l
[08:47] <KILmoo> hello, most of my programms, ends with "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[08:47] <genii> stinkyfoot: That command is to CHange the files. to view them use ls
[08:47] <KILmoo> it is a no so fresh, but not so old install, so in suspect something material
[08:48] <stinkyfoot> thanks genii
[08:48] <KILmoo> what should i check
[08:48] <okst666> Hi there...someone knowledge about the monodevelop eta ?...it keeps crashing when I open a code window
[08:48] <Enselic> KILmoo: for example what program segfaults?
[08:48] <Y3k> ubuntu doesn't use .xinitrc does it?
[08:48] <genii> stinkyfoot: Something like:  ls -l /dirname | more
[08:48] <KILmoo> firefox
[08:48] <stinkyfoot> so this is what i tried
[08:48] <stinkyfoot> sudo chmod -x texmaker_linux_installer
[08:48] <stinkyfoot> sudo chmod -x texmaker_linux_installer
[08:48] <KILmoo> sometime, nothing in 2 days, sometimes, (like now, i can even see the start page
[08:48] <stinkyfoot> and it still doesn't work
[08:48] <uguestu> !compiler
[08:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:48] <nickrud> Y3k: only if you choose xsession from the login window; .xinitrc is also used by startx
[08:48] <uguestu> What's the best C compiler?
[08:48] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: _+_, not -
[08:49] <Enselic> uguestu: impossible question. for linux you usually use GCC
[08:49] <stinkyfoot> that makes sense
[08:49] <stinkyfoot> sweet
[08:49] <stinkyfoot> fixed
[08:49] <uguestu> Ok.
[08:49] <cliechti> KILmoo: i have a box where i get segfaults after some uptime. but its a hardware issue (RAM contents gets corrupted)
[08:50] <uguestu> Enselic- sudo apt-get install gcc shold get it, right?
[08:50] <stinkyfoot> sweet sweetness thanks a lot everyone
[08:50] <KILmoo> but i just boot up, and i checked ram with memetest
[08:50] <Enselic> KILmoo: the best thing you can do is to get a stacktrace and report to developers
[08:50] <Shapeshifter> My sound just stopped working after a reboot! I don't really get it, maybe it has something to do with virtualbox, which I just installed. I can't change the volume and if I click on any of the "Test" buttons in sound preferences the window just closes....
[08:50] <stinkyfoot> what is a good beginners *nix guide
[08:50] <Enselic> uguestu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:50] <seths> cliechti: im going to reinstall my gateway and start again, thanks for your help
[08:50] <Enselic> uguestu: it will install the basic tools to build software, including GCC
[08:50] <warrior> ghe
[08:51] <ganesh> _Johny:not able to get in as su..can u help?
[08:51] <PKdoR> I cant manually install vuze for the life of me!!
[08:51] <stinkyfoot> what is a good beginners *nix guide?
[08:51] <Enselic> stinkyfoot: basicaly anything you get by googling "linux introduction"
[08:51] <genii> stinkyfoot: There is a decent one off of ubuntu main site, i'll see for a link
[08:51] <stinkyfoot> sure enselic but i want a really indepth one
[08:51] <Pici> okst666: Probably a better question for #monodevelop on irc.gimp.org
[08:51] <KILmoo> So the best thing i have to do is to change my computer, or to wait for gusty, no?
[08:51] <cliechti> Shapeshifter: i have virtual box installed and no problem with sound. did you check the mixer settings? are is the wave out muted?
[08:51] <PKdoR> I tried following like 3 diferent wikis and always the same thing happens can some one please help Pleaase???
[08:52] <Enselic> KILmoo: as I said, the best is to report this to developers, and give a stacktrace
[08:52] <Enselic> KILmoo: what architecutre are you on?
[08:52] <cary> hi, how's everybody today?
[08:52] <KILmoo> athlonXP
[08:52] <genii> stinkyfoot: This one should get you started at least : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[08:52] <Enselic> KILmoo: I mean 32-bit ore 64-bit. on some occations 64-bit is less stable than 32-bit you could try the 32-bit version if it
[08:52] <cliechti> KILmoo: well before shreddering the PC i'd try a fresh install of feisty or gutsy
[08:53] <Enselic> 's the 64-bit that crashes
[08:53] <KILmoo> accordigly to my bank, i will try the fresh install, sure :)
[08:53] <Shapeshifter> cliechti: It doesn't seem to be muted. If I use the keyboard volume buttons the bar doesn't change (it's at zero) and if I press mute nothing happens. Just after the reboot the tray icon for the volume showed up, but I don't use that so I'm wondering why it did appear. In sound preferences I'm on ALSA.
[08:54] <PKdoR> iI been trying to install azureus/vuze for 2 days with no luck can someone please lend a helping hand?\
[08:55] <cary> PK, what kind of package are you trying to install?
[08:55] <Shapeshifter> cliechti: I rebooted a second time and then everything was back to normal with the tray icons (beside the volume icon appearing there, the shutdown button was misplaced). So the icons are back to normal but there's still no sound.
[08:55] <PKdoR> cary: Azureus_3.0.3.0_linux.tar.bz2.tar
[08:55] <Enselic> PKdoR: why not  sudo apt-get install azereus?
[08:56] <cliechti> Shapeshifter: hm.. maybe someone else has an idea?
[08:56] <cary> if you decompress them to a folder, you'll be able to find the readme file
[08:56] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know if its possible to connect a PocketPC (ipaq) to the internet via a USB connection to Ubuntu?
[08:56] <PKdoR> cary cause that version is 2.5 and I would love to use 3.x/Vuze cause of the free HD content instead
[08:56] <Zhaz> I have some problem with 5.1 audio anyone that has any ideas? It only playes stereo..
[08:56] <Shapeshifter> cliechti: Well can I reinstall something? Like the drivers or something like that?
[08:56] <PKdoR> cary:  but that one is not on the repos for some reson
[08:57] <cary> if you download it from the website, you can still get the file
[08:57] <Shapeshifter> cliechti: I just switched to OSS and now I get "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not establish connection to sound server" if I press TEST
[08:57] <cary> it sucks to do it that way, but I installed a new version of java from scratch by just downloading the stuff from the website
[08:58] <PKdoR> cary:  I already downloaded it from the website but I cant/dont know how to manually install it
[08:58] <reverseblade> can I re install 7.04 from live CD on a partition 7.10 installed/  I am trying to revert back
[08:58] <Pici> PKdoR: How are you trying to install?
[08:58] <Enselic> reverseblade: I doubt there is a convenient way
[08:58] <Shapeshifter> cliechti: Well I actually get it with every sound platform, just on the Test button directly next to it. The other test buttons crash the window ^^
[08:58] <soundray> BioPo1: are you BioPod?
[08:58] <Pici> reverseblade: Downgrading is explicitly not supported.  You can install over itm but you need to backup your data if you dont have a seperate home partition.
[08:59] <reverseblade> Enselic: yeah but I cannot boot nto 7.10
[08:59] <PKdoR> cary: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144546&highlight=azureus
[08:59] <PKdoR> but i get an error
[08:59] <reverseblade> Pici:  I cant, the whole installation screwed up
[08:59] <reverseblade> Pici: I am trying to save what I can
[08:59] <Enselic> reverseblade: probably just GRUB that screwed up
[08:59] <cary> no no, I mean download it from the azureus website.
[08:59] <Enselic> reverseblade: what happends when you try to boot?
[08:59] <reverseblade> Enselic: may be can you help ?
[08:59] <cary> old-school
[08:59] <Pici> reverseblade: Boot from a live cd and backup then.
[08:59] <kaminix> How do I reencode a .sub to .srt?
[09:00] <Shapeshifter> Ok... it appears to me like I totaly nuked something: If I use "sudo apt-get update" nothing happens and theres just another empty promt. And I'm missing sound
[09:00] <Shapeshifter> I added myself to the virtualbox usergroup before that. could that cause the problem?
[09:00] <reverseblade> Enselic: well I was using 7.04 for the last 5 months and yesterday I upgreded to 7.10 beta
[09:00] <Pici> PKdoR: What step are you having problems with?
[09:00] <reverseblade> Enselic: then today I tried s2disk. I don't know if it has anything to do with it. And I saw critical temperature 95 C shutting down warning
[09:01] <PKdoR> cary:  the first one
[09:01] <reverseblade> Enselic: then any time I reboot it is stuck just the beginning of the ubuntu bar at the start up
[09:01] <aguitel_> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/20667
[09:01] <reverseblade> Enselic: When I do alt+F1 I see : no resume images found booting normal xxx libcrpytxxxx and it halts
[09:01] <PKdoR> cary: It says:
[09:01] <PKdoR> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[09:01] <PKdoR> tar: Child returned status 2
[09:01] <PKdoR> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:01] <_Keef> I
[09:01] <cary> hang on, PK, lemme try it too.
[09:02] <reverseblade> Enselic: nothing works recovery mode or so. but I can open the machine with live CD
[09:02] <Enselic> reverseblade: try to give it some minutes, maybe its just doing some lengty operation
[09:02] <mete> PKdoR please don't paste here www.pastebin.com ;)
[09:02] <Shapeshifter> I don't believe it, e.g. the "users and groups" thing in the menu disappeared, too
[09:02] <reverseblade> Enselic: 5 minutes ?
[09:02] <Shapeshifter> and missing sound and sudo
[09:02] <reverseblade> Enselic: is it not enough ?
[09:02] <Enselic> reverseblade: I'd guess so yeah
[09:02] <Blackkatt> would some one help me with Ubuntu? i need some guidens
[09:02] <Enselic> !beginners | Blackkatt
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beginners - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <reverseblade> Enselic: so I am considering as a last resort re installing 7.04 to the same partition
[09:03] <arnath> whats the difference between "primary" & "logical" for partitions?
[09:03] <redbox> is there a way I can execute vlc from the command line to open and display a video on the X desktop?  (kind of like running glxgears -display :0) ?
[09:03] <Enselic> !start | Blackkat
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Blackkatt> !beginners
[09:03] <insomninja> Would it be a good idea to use dd to backup my whole hdd, windows rescue partition and all? (using "dd if=/dev/sda of=myhdd.iso")?
[09:03] <soundray> Blackkatt: just ask your question
[09:03] <reverseblade> Enselic: after all I need an OS on my machine
[09:03] <Enselic> reverseblade: yup
[09:03] <Blackkatt> soundray: i have to many =)
[09:03] <Blackkatt> ok first of then =)
[09:03] <reverseblade> Enselic: so do you think re installing 7.04 could also bring the data back
[09:03] <soundray> insomninja: that depends. You'd have to have an identical or bigger disk to restore.
[09:03] <_Keef> I'm getting sound server errors all of a sudden, when my soundcard was working perfectly before, any ideas on how to work out what's wrong? (it's a 5.1 soundblaster with 7.04)
[09:04] <Blackkatt> how to disable loggin message on gaim :P really enoying
[09:04] <erUSUL> insomninja: well the resulting file will not surelly be an iso (*.img may be a better choice)
[09:04] <stinkyfoot> hey i installed something from an executable and now i want to uninstall it
[09:04] <soundray> reverseblade: if you reinstall, you will most probably lose your data, unless you shrink your existing partition and install to a new one.
[09:04] <stinkyfoot> but it doesn't show up in my package manager
[09:04] <stinkyfoot> how do i do that
[09:04] <Neo1607> is there a way to get Windows Games running 100% speed on linux?
[09:04] <Enselic> reverseblade: to save your data, use the live CD
[09:05] <cary> PK:  I went to www.azureus.com, clicked download and downloaded it to my Desktop.  Archive manager decompressed to a folder there for me.
[09:05] <insomninja> soundray: the file would be rewritten to the same disk
[09:05] <Enselic> reverseblade: if you reinstall the OS over the old one, the old data will be lost, but just backup your data first
[09:05] <insomninja> erUSUL: ok
[09:05] <genii> stinkyfoot: Hopefully the installer also has an un-installer if you run it again. Otherwise no easy way to remove it
[09:05] <reverseblade> Enselic: I click the 107.2 GB volume Icon on nautilus and nothing happens
[09:05] <genii> stinkyfoot: Thats why installation from package manager is strongly encouraged
[09:06] <reverseblade> Enselic: how can I get access the data
[09:06] <soundray> insomninja: other than that, I don't see much of a problem. It's not the most flexible type of backup, mind you.
[09:06] <Enselic> reverseblade: to me it sounds like if you overheated your harddrive, if you did, you might have a hard time getting your data
[09:06] <Blackkatt> okay i need some help with Nvidia driver installation, one nice dude helpt me before but it still dosent work.
[09:06] <stinkyfoot> genii can i use gksudo with bash?
[09:06] <reverseblade> Enselic: you mean I burned my hard disk ?
[09:06] <cary> there is probably a way to add the website to you software sources, but I don't think it is worth it if you only have one file that you want from them
[09:07] <soundray> stinkyfoot: better not. To get a root shell, use 'sudo -i' in a terminal.
[09:07] <jeb> hi again
[09:07] <genii> stinkyfoot: Better to use soundray's advice
[09:07] <Enselic> reverseblade: well that's what you said
[09:07] <jeb> still trying to install ubuntu with debootstrap
[09:07] <soundray> reverseblade: what is this s2disk thing?
[09:07] <Blackkatt> anyone?
[09:07] <reverseblade> soundray: hibernates to disk
[09:07] <PKdoR> cary:  but does that install it or just decompress it?
[09:07] <stinkyfoot> what does the -i do?
[09:07] <jeb> now i got the folowing problem: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc
[09:07] <Neo1607> where can i get ATI drivers for linux?
[09:08] <reverseblade> soundray: suspend 2 disk
[09:08] <jeb> chroot: cannot run command `mount': No such file or directory
[09:08] <jeb> any idea?
[09:08] <Pici> !ati | Neo1607
[09:08] <ubotu> Neo1607: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <soundray> stinkyfoot: "interactive" (man sudo)
[09:08] <cary> that just decompresses it.  from there you can get to the text readme files that will tell you step by step how to install
[09:08] <stinkyfoot> if i delete something that is linked to in the applications menu
[09:08] <soundray> Enselic: what makes you think reverseblade overheated his or her harddrive?
[09:08] <stinkyfoot> will the link in the menu dissapear as well?
[09:08] <djaquay> how do you get networkmanager to only connect to certain WAPs?  (i.e. not my nextdoor neighbor's)?
[09:09] <Blackkatt> !start
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <insomninja> soundray: yeah I know, stuff I want to access will be backup-ed another way too. hmm an idea would be to just backup the windows recovery partition
[09:09] <reverseblade> Enselic: soundray, I  tried re install and it is stuck at scanning disks step
[09:09] <soundray> stinkyfoot: don't manipulate the installation like that. Better use a package manager to install/remove software
[09:09] <insomninja> The backup is for if I want to install windows again
[09:09] <reverseblade> soundray: I got warnings of critical temperature 95 C shutting down
[09:09] <icelink> beebo
[09:09] <reverseblade> soundray: just before this incident happend
[09:09] <soundray> reverseblade: but not from your hard disk I bet
[09:09] <PKdoR> cary:  thanks i will try that
[09:10] <cary> :)
[09:10] <stinkyfoot> soundray i can't do that with this program
[09:10] <stinkyfoot> i installed it from an executable
[09:10] <soundray> stinkyfoot: which one is it?
[09:10] <cary> I'll try it too, I'm still new to this ,but I don't have a good way to get new tunes yet
[09:10] <stinkyfoot> texmaker
[09:11] <soundray> stinkyfoot: well, you'll probably have to remove all directories and menu entries manually
[09:11] <stinkyfoot> how do i remove the menu entries?
[09:11] <jeb> no idea?
[09:11] <stinkyfoot> and where can i find an install log?
[09:11] <soundray> stinkyfoot: use alacarte
[09:11] <stinkyfoot> what is alacarte?
[09:12] <soundray> stinkyfoot: menu editor
[09:12] <soundray> stinkyfoot: that depends on the package
[09:12] <david003> hello. look here: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/564/schermatacomputeresploreh0.png  how do i add a shortcut to another folder in this screen?
[09:12] <stinkyfoot> does anyone use latex in here?
[09:12] <soundray> stinkyfoot: yeah
[09:12] <erUSUL> stinkyfoot: through lyx mainly
[09:13] <Pici> jeb: Usually I use chroot to run bash then use my commands from there.
[09:13] <reverseblade> Enselic: is there any possibility if I leave my computers for a few hours and the disk cools down ?
[09:13] <stinkyfoot> do you guys use tetex?
[09:13] <stinkyfoot> as the base?
[09:13] <jeb> Pici: it's used by debootstrap
[09:13] <stinkyfoot> soundray erusul do you guys use tetex?
[09:13] <david003> so anyone?
[09:13] <jeb> I looked through the script but don't get where i could change anything
[09:13] <soundray> stinkyfoot: I wrote my thesis using tetex, but switched to texlive halfway
[09:13] <Pici> jeb: You're on Ubuntu?
[09:13] <jeb> gentoo live-cd
[09:13] <soundray> reverseblade: it's not a hardware problem, I bet
[09:13] <menfir> hi all
[09:13] <jeb> ubuntu's to lang to boot
[09:13] <jeb> long
[09:14] <Enselic> reverseblade: there is hope I'd say
[09:14] <stinkyfoot> soundray i'm trying to use texmaker with tetex
[09:14] <jeb> extremly slow cd-rom drive
[09:14] <ikonia> jeb: do you want help with ubuntu or gentoo ?
[09:14] <stinkyfoot> and apparently at default texmaker isn't configured correctly
[09:14] <jeb> help on installing ubuntu
[09:14] <reverseblade> soundray: how it is not an hardware problem I am on live cd
[09:14] <stinkyfoot> and i have no idea how to configure it
[09:14] <ikonia> jeb so whats the problem ?
[09:14] <reverseblade> soundray: and I can't do a fresh install
[09:14] <jeb> the target system has a gentoo system bootet
[09:14] <stinkyfoot> ie where to point the commands to
[09:14] <Pici> jeb: It sounds like its a Gentoo problem right now.
[09:14] <jeb> isn't
[09:14] <soundray> reverseblade: what stops you from doing a fresh install?
[09:15] <Zhaz> Any tips on how to get 5.1 DD sound to work??
[09:15] <ikonia> jeb: what's the problem with the install
[09:15] <cliechti> jeb: well the debootsrap method should work, but if youre looking for alternatives, there is also a net install
[09:15] <jeb> problem is that neither the graphical nor the text-mode installer work
[09:15] <jeb> or they hang
[09:15] <reverseblade> soundray: in the wizard it stucks at starting paritioner "scanning disks"
[09:15] <soundray> stinkyfoot: just remove all of texmaker you can find without too much trouble. Then install texlive
[09:15] <reverseblade> soundray: at 46%
[09:15] <ikonia> jeb define not work
[09:15] <stinkyfoot> soundray on top of tetex?
[09:15] <soundray> reverseblade: how much RAM do you have?
[09:16] <jeb> it hangs around a half hour at the same point
[09:16] <Shapeshifter> I really need help. It seems like I nuked my user config for some reason. I can't sudo, my sound doesn't work and I'm missing entries in the menus. Is there any way to revert everything? I wanted to add myself to the virtualbox group and the problem might be connected to that or to the virtualbox installation itself. I can boot into recovery mode, but I don't know what to do
[09:16] <soundray> stinkyfoot: no, it'll automatically replace tetex
[09:16] <erUSUL> stinkyfoot: installing some new template my tetex got replaced by texlive. i didn't noticed nothing extrange so far (i'm not a heavy user anyway)
[09:16] <ikonia> jeb what point
[09:16] <jeb> different
[09:16] <reverseblade> soundray: 2 GB
[09:16] <stinkyfoot> ahh apparently i don't even have tetex installed
[09:16] <jeb> graphical installer: loading partition programm
[09:16] <jeb> text-mode: loading chipset support
[09:16] <Shapeshifter> If I sudo it asks for the pw the first time but it doesn't execute any commands
[09:16] <menfir> hi all,
[09:16] <ikonia> jeb: what chipset do you have ?
[09:16] <usr13> Shapeshifter: How didyou nuke your user?
[09:16] <jeb> mini-install: also loading modules
[09:16] <stinkyfoot> no wonder it wasn't working
[09:17] <Shapeshifter> usr13: my user account
[09:17] <Pici> !enter
[09:17] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:17] <Zhaz> No clues?
[09:17] <usr13> Shapeshifter: If sudo asks for the pw then sudo is working apparently.
[09:17] <jeb> don't know what it is, it's the laptop of a friend of mine
[09:17] <usr13> What commands are not working for you?
[09:17] <ikonia> jeb: can't help then
[09:17] <soundray> reverseblade: can you restart the Desktop CD, then open a terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then start the installer again and see if it logs any useful errors at the critical point
[09:17] <reverseblade> Enselic: soundray dmesg gives me full of :[ 1778.448000]  ext3_orphan_cleanup: truncating inode 5473845 to 0 bytes
[09:18] <menfir> i get this error when trying to install ubuntu 7.04  "/bin/sh: can"t access tty: job control turned off"  any1 that can help, im a total noob with linux
[09:18] <soundray> reverseblade: have you tried e2fsck?
[09:18] <Enselic> reverseblade: good, that means it's not so serous after all
[09:18] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Ok but after asking for the pw it accepts it but it doesn't do anything more than that. I can only run commands as myself but I can't sudo anything, it just skips to a new line without any output
[09:18] <usr13> Shapeshifter: How many user accounts to you have on this machine?
[09:18] <stinkyfoot> soundray what was your thesis in?
[09:18] <soundray> stinkyfoot: medical image analysis
[09:18] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Only myself
[09:19] <reverseblade> soundray: I don't know what it is
[09:19] <usr13> Shapeshifter: What commands are not working for you?
[09:19] <reverseblade> Enselic: soundray what to do ?
[09:19] <stinkyfoot> soundray what kind of analysis? analytical, graphical, mathematical?
[09:19] <usr13> Shapeshifter: sudo ls
[09:19] <soundray> reverseblade: 'sudo e2fsck -y /dev/sda1' (assuming that /dev/sda1 is your root partition)
[09:19] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Any. I tried "sudo apt-get update" or just "sudo gedit" or anything. nothing works, it just skips to a new line.
[09:19] <usr13> Shapeshifter:  does sudo ls   work?
[09:20] <soundray> stinkyfoot: anatomical segmentation of brain MR images
[09:20] <Shapeshifter> usr13: no, it just skips to the next line.
[09:20] <reverseblade> soundray: e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:20] <reverseblade> e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[09:20] <reverseblade> Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[09:20] <soundray> reverseblade: yeah, you should umount it first
[09:20] <riotkittie> ugh. :|
[09:20] <Zhaz> Anyone got an idea why I cant get DD5.1 to work?
[09:20] <usr13> Shapeshifter: are  you in a tty or a gui terminal?
[09:21] <riotkittie> bmpx is so... bulky :|
[09:21] <reverseblade> soundray: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[09:21] <reverseblade> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[09:21] <Shapeshifter> usr13: gui terminal. I'll just try it from a tty. Btw my administration menu shrinked massivly and I lost a few entries in preferences
[09:21] <reverseblade> soundray: but still getting the same error
[09:21] <soundray> reverseblade: is /dev/sda1 really your root device?
[09:21] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Yes, try a tty console
[09:22] <blue42> hey guys, I have a weird problem.  Using 2.6.19 custom kernel, forcedeth 0.57 ethernet driver, everything works great, but ethtool & dmesg do not report link speed, in fact ethtool says it cannot find any info on eth0
[09:22] <eg_linux> hiiiiiii alllllllll ubuntian
[09:22] <Zhaz> Anyone got an idea why I cant get DD5.1 to work? Have an ALC882 card
[09:22] <reverseblade> soundray: I think so , not 100% sure
[09:22] <Shapeshifter> usr13: I just used a tty and it does just the same thing. I think it has something to do with cababilities or what I'm allowed to do, thats why I miss so many administration entries and can't sudo
[09:22] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Is there some sort of event that immediately preceeded this behaviour, (like installing or uninstalling software ,etc.)?
[09:22] <reverseblade> soundray: partitioner still running sorry
[09:22] <eg_linux> i want help about Reinstalling greb after installing windows
[09:23] <reverseblade> soundray: wait
[09:23] <eg_linux> anybody hete ?
[09:23] <usr13> Shapeshifter: sudo su -
[09:23] <usr13> what does that do? ^
[09:23] <panosru> hi, i have downloaded firefox 32 and install but mplayer does not work please can someone help me with this issue?
[09:23] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Yes, I installed virtualbox and I "tried" adding myself to the virtualbox group with "sudo usermod -G virtualbox shapeshifter
[09:23] <soundray> !grub > eg_linux, please read the private message from ubotu
[09:24] <soundray> usr13: sudo -i (sudo su and friends cause lots of confusion)
[09:24] <PKdoR> I get an error when reloading the repos
[09:24] <Shapeshifter> usr13: anything "sudo ..." does nothing, just a new line. that includes sudo su -
[09:24] <reverseblade> soundray: I closed the partitioner still the same busy error
[09:24] <tretle> .bonus
[09:25] <uguestu> > Hi again guys. Came here earlier about my sound not working today, was working when I first installed ubuntu back 3/4 days ago. I checked the links I was given by a helper here bt none really solved it. I did one command that showed that I have a active soundcard at the moment. All volumes are up/ Mutes are all OF.. Any other suggestions before I throw it out the window?
[09:25] <erUSUL> menfir: read here they offer a solution that may help you (hal8000 post) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588
[09:25] <soundray> reverseblade: run 'sudo fdisk -l'  and see if you recognize the partition where you originally installed.
[09:25] <eg_linux> soundray: thanks too much
[09:25] <usr13> Shapeshifter: sudo $PATH
[09:25] <arnath> is it possible that after installing linux, i have to manually install grub?
[09:25] <reverseblade> soundray: I tried for sda2 and sda3
[09:25] <menfir> thx
[09:25] <arnath> because i just installed ubuntu on my drive, but it simply won't boot up
[09:25] <soundray> reverseblade: tried what?
[09:25] <reverseblade> soundray: for sda2 :  I got this :e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2
[09:25] <reverseblade> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[09:26] <siloko> arnath: what happens?
[09:26] <riotkittie> arnath: are you getting an error? if so, can you elaborate on it?
[09:26] <erUSUL> arnath: o_O!? and you get any error msg?
[09:26] <reverseblade> soundray: running what you said for sda2 and sda3
[09:26] <arnath> no error, it lists PCI devices, then stops
[09:26] <soundray> reverseblade: DON'T PLEASE
[09:26] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Nothing. "sudo $PATH" doesn't do anything, just a new line. the same goes for "sudo asdf1234" or _anything_ "sudo ..."
[09:26] <arnath> if (in bios) i say to boot from cdrom, it will try that, then stop
[09:26] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Interesting situation....
[09:26] <arnath> (unless theres actually a cd in it, in which case, it will boot correctly from cd)
[09:26] <siloko> arnath: you can't boot from a livecd either?
[09:26] <Shapeshifter> usr13: indeed. How should my /etc/group / passwd files look like?
[09:26] <soundray> reverseblade: like I said, you should really be sure about which device you are going to treat with these powerful tools. Especially if your interest is to rescue the data!
[09:26] <arnath> also note that i installed linux using the "alternate" cd
[09:27] <siloko> arnath: ahh ok . . .
[09:27] <reverseblade> soundray: uhh already done
[09:27] <arnath> siloko: because i have a geforce 8600gts, which apparantly has problems with the normal cd
[09:27] <riotkittie> arnath: i had issues with the GRUB install when  i used the 7.04 alt CD
[09:27] <soundray> arnath: if something went wrong at the grub stage, use the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions from the private message that's coming...
[09:27] <soundray> !grub > arnath
[09:27] <usr13> Shapeshifter: not going to be able to tell without admin priviledges.  You could boot to recovery-mode kernel and poke around some.
[09:27] <gnuskool> uguestu: whats the prob?
[09:27] <erUSUL> arnath:  lists PCI devices <<< the bios? or linux? if it is linux then grub is doing its job
[09:27] <Shapeshifter> usr13: the last line in /etc/group looks like this: "shapeshifter:x:1000:"
[09:27] <reverseblade> soundray: I tried sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and I see two devices there sda1 and sda5
[09:27] <arnath> erUSUL: bios
[09:27] <fondor1> uguestu: Doesn't seem like anyone here can help you.  Any idea as to what you changed when it stopped working?  Updates, perhaps?
[09:28] <soundray> reverseblade: which one is your root?
[09:28] <erUSUL> !grub | arnath
[09:28] <ubotu> arnath: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:28] <Shapeshifter> usr13: well I can "look" at them at least ;) maybe u find something and I'll try altering it afterwards
[09:28] <gnuskool> uguestu: whats the prob?
[09:28] <erUSUL> arnath: try some of the methods on how to recover grub after installing windows page
[09:28] <arnath> will do
[09:28] <usr13> Shapeshifter: What kind of prompt to you have?    $   or  #
[09:28] <uguestu> gnuskool- no sound. was working fine a few days back.
[09:29] <Shapeshifter> usr13: shapeshiftter@Laptop:~$
[09:29] <reverseblade> soundray: sda1 Boot primary linux ext3 115000 mb
[09:29] <gnuskool> in alsamixer is there gren or grey on your sound, it should be green
[09:29] <usr13> Shapeshifter: You could paste the /etc/group file to pastebin.org and let me see what it looks like.
[09:29] <riotkittie> uguestu: stupid question but you're sure your speakers are on, that the volume's not on mute?
[09:29] <Shapeshifter> usr13: I'll do that, thx
[09:29] <uguestu> riotkittie- im on a laptop so theyre always on. and the speakers arnt mute :|
[09:29] <soundray> reverseblade: exit cfdisk please. What do you get from a 'mount | grep sda1'?
[09:30] <reverseblade> soundray: no output
[09:30] <dmitry_> i am trying to install xchat 2.6.8 on feisty fawn, but the package returned an error, "dependency is not satisfiable: libdbus-1-2". how could i get around that?
[09:30] <Shapeshifter> usr13: http://paste.uni.cc/17296
[09:30] <soundray> reverseblade: good. Now do a 'sudo e2fsck -y /dev/sda1'
[09:31] <soundray> reverseblade: drop the sudo if you're in a root shell already
[09:31] <erUSUL> dmitry_: afaik you get that version of xchat just enabling backports
[09:31] <genii> !info libdbus
[09:31] <reverseblade> soundray: e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:31] <reverseblade> e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[09:31] <reverseblade> Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[09:31] <ubotu> Package libdbus does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:31] <gnuskool> uguestu: type in term, aplay -l
[09:31] <dmitry_> erUSUL, could you elaborate?
[09:31] <soundray> reverseblade: and you haven't got ubiquity or gparted running now?
[09:31] <erUSUL> dmitry_: i lied it is 2.8.4 in backports
[09:32] <reverseblade> soundray: the only thing running is live cd and xchat
[09:32] <soundray> reverseblade: 'ps aux | grep ubiquity ; ps aux | grep parted'
[09:32] <erUSUL> dmitry_: if you have the feisty-backports repository enabled you get xchat 2.8.4
[09:32] <Shapeshifter> usr13: http://paste.uni.cc/17297
[09:32] <soundray> reverseblade: please run these checks ^^
[09:32] <reverseblade> soundray: head on ! I think they are still running. I am gonna kill them
[09:32] <Shapeshifter> usr13: that's my passwd file.
[09:32] <soundray> reverseblade: either that, or boot afresh
[09:32] <dmitry_> erUSUL, are they enabled by default?
[09:32] <umop-apisdn> anyone familiar with ssh? i wanna use putty to talk to my ubuntu server (6.06 LTS), but it's not accepting connections :P
[09:33] <soundray> umop-apisdn: have you installed it? 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[09:33] <sulo> Hi
[09:33] <gnuskool> uguestu: type in term, aplay -l
[09:33] <cliechti> umop-apisdn: over the internet? gateway/rounter in between?
[09:33] <sulo> How do I change keymap in gdm?
[09:33] <umop-apisdn> soundray: yes, it's installed.
[09:33] <erUSUL> dmitry_: no, i get them using source-o-matic to generate a sources.lst
[09:33] <uguestu> gnuskool- card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: ALC260 Analog [ALC260 Analog] 
[09:33] <uguestu>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:33] <uguestu>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:33] <soundray> umop-apisdn: is it running?
[09:33] <umop-apisdn> cliechti: no, local area network
[09:34] <pierre_> hi
[09:34] <umop-apisdn> soundray: iono... how do i tell?
[09:34] <erUSUL> dmitry_: add a line like this to your /etc/apt/sources.list  >> deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse <<
[09:34] <soundray> umop-apisdn: 'ps aux | grep sshd'
[09:34] <umop-apisdn> <-- stupid linux newb. windows tech. nuf sed.
[09:34] <reverseblade> soundray:  can't kill parted_devices
[09:34] <nuso2f> Hello
[09:34] <uguestu> gnuskool- :)
[09:35] <Mahdy> hiya guys
[09:35] <usr13> Shapeshifter: What is your user ID on that machine?
[09:35] <dmitry_> erUSUL, done. next step?
[09:35] <soundray> reverseblade: okay, I think it's time to reboot. Now, I want to suggest that instead of going straight back into the Desktop CD, you try something else.
[09:35] <gnuskool_> Mahdy: hi
[09:35] <umop-apisdn> soundray: looks like that's a no. the only listing i get in response is the grep command itself ;)
[09:35] <gnuskool_> uguestu: type in term, aplay -l
[09:35] <reverseblade> soundray: what is it ?
[09:35] <uguestu> i typed that gnuskool and pasted too you
[09:35] <uguestu> ook up a bit.
[09:35] <Shapeshifter> usr13: by user ID I guess the username is meant? It's "shapeshifter". or is the ID something different?
[09:35] <usr13> Shapeshifter: It appears that your user name has been removed from the various groups it needs to be in.
[09:35] <erUSUL> dmitry_: well instead of http://es.archive... you should have used your country code (es: --> Spain)
[09:36] <erUSUL> dmitry_: where are you from?
[09:36] <usr13> Shapeshifter: No, that's probably it.
[09:36] <Shapeshifter> usr13: Ok. what do I need to fill in where?
[09:36] <soundray> reverseblade: boot to grub, and edit the kernel line (hit 'e'). Remove 'quiet splash', then continue booting. When it stops, give it some time (15 minutes, since your partition is huge). Only then conclude that something is really  wrong.
[09:36] <dmitry_> erUSUL: located in england.
[09:36] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Just a sec
[09:36] <dmitry_> erUSUL: would it be uk?
[09:36] <soundray> umop-apisdn: 'sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start'
[09:36] <erUSUL> dmitry_: instead of es on that line you should use uk
[09:36] <gnuskool_> uguestu: i lost connection, repaste it
[09:36] <shearn89> dmitry_: gb
[09:36] <erUSUL> dmitry_: yes
[09:37] <reverseblade> soundray: okay gotcha. Will you be here in 20 min ?
[09:37] <dmitry_> shearn89: uk or gb?
[09:37] <shearn89> dmitry_: gb - all my repos say gb not uk.
[09:37] <xerophyte4> how can i manually transfer zones from master dns server ?
[09:37] <uguestu> ok gnuskool
[09:37] <soundray> reverseblade: okay, I'll wait
[09:37] <uguestu> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$ aplay -l
[09:37] <uguestu> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[09:37] <uguestu> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: ALC260 Analog [ALC260 Analog] 
[09:37] <uguestu>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:37] <uguestu>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:37] <uguestu> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$
[09:37] <reverseblade> soundray: I also have noapic option and some other options like irqpoll but I think they are redundant , thanks
[09:37] <dmitry_> erUSUL: gb or uk? :P
[09:37] <soundray> reverseblade: plenty of opportunity to help people here tonight...
[09:38] <usr13> Shapeshifter: your username should be at the end of that 5th line.
[09:38] <umop-apisdn> soundray: uhm... 'unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ssh not found
[09:38] <Pat__> hello I just installed 7.10 beta and I am unable to install the nvidia restricted driver!
[09:38] <erUSUL> dmitry_: if shearn89 says it's gb i trust him ;)
[09:38] <shearn89> erUSUL: cheers....!
[09:38] <genii> xerophyte4: Did you look at contents of /etc/named ?
[09:38] <Shapeshifter> usr13: at the end of "adm:x:4:" ?
[09:38] <dmitry_> erUSUL: as do i; changed to gb. what now?
[09:38] <arnath> hmm i installed grub and it is booting now, but i get "error 22: no such partition"
[09:38] <thehollowwithin> how do i burn .daa files?
[09:38] <gnuskool_> uguestu: type this now, lspci -v, is your soundcard listed there?
[09:38] <soundray> umop-apisdn: you may have installed the client, but you haven't installed the server. 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[09:38] <xerophyte4> genii, ?? what am i looking for
[09:38] <usr13> Shapeshifter: and probably several other places too, but that might give you admin privildges again.  Yes at end of adm
[09:38] <erUSUL> dmitry_: just 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[09:39] <Pat__> any help /tips ?
[09:39] <Pat__> so I know if I am doing somethign wrong or should file a bug report ?
[09:39] <Pat__> after I launch the restricted-driver-manager
[09:39] <Pat__> I select the driver ... but nothing happens
[09:39] <nuso2f> hello, who uses qemu?
[09:39] <Shapeshifter> usr13: yes I'll write that stuff down and then change into recovery mode
[09:39] <umop-apisdn> soundray: oh. i just realized where i was actually at in the installation process, duh. nevermind, i have to fix my networking so i can apt-get :P
[09:39] <uguestu> yes gnuskool :
[09:39] <uguestu> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:39] <thehollowwithin> how do i burn .daa files?
[09:39] <dmitry_> erUSUL: thanks; doing.
[09:39] <erUSUL> !intelhda
[09:39] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:39] <genii> xerophyte4: Thats usually where all your zone info, master or otherwise is specified
[09:39] <usr13> Shapeshifter: I'm wondering how this happened in the first place here... but
[09:39] <shearn89> !patience | thehollowwithin
[09:39] <ubotu> thehollowwithin: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:39] <umop-apisdn> soundray: i thought for sure i had run the 'apt-get install ssh' yesterday... now i recall what it did
[09:40] <arnath> soundray: i installed grub and it is booting now, but i get "error 22: no such partition"
[09:40] <thehollowwithin> how do i burn .daa files? they are a type of iso
[09:40] <gnuskool_> uguestu: follow the link from ubotu
[09:40] <Shapeshifter> usr13: I guess I mistyped the command where I wanted to add myself to the vritualbox group. or something like that. so after adm should bring back sudo so I can do other stuff too?
[09:40] <usr13> Shapeshifter: The line that says audio  that one too
[09:40] <erUSUL> arnath: are you sure you configured the correct root partition for grub?
[09:40] <soundray> arnath: yuck, something else went wrong with your installation. Would it be terrible to start over?
[09:40] <arnath> erUSUL: i used the find thing
[09:40] <gnuskool_> uguestu: did you do any updates?
[09:40] <arnath> soundray: you mean my grub installation or the linux one?
[09:41] <usr13> Shapeshifter: YOu would have to log out and back in again before changes would take effect.
[09:41] <soundray> arnath: ubuntu
[09:41] <uguestu> updates for what gnuskool ?
[09:41] <johndarc> hello
[09:41] <erUSUL> arnath: ok
[09:41] <nuso2f> hi
[09:41] <arnath> soundray: well it would be rather nasty, but if it must be done...
[09:41] <soundray> arnath: why, you haven't got data on it yet, have you?
[09:41] <arnath> soundray: what did i do wrong the last time? because simply repeating my steps will probably lead to the same outcome
[09:42] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Well, my last comment is irrelevent, since you will have to boot to recovery kernel to do this, but just FYI on the issue.
[09:42] <arnath> soundray: i spent a while putting together the hardware and backing up existing data, then coming to the painful conclusion that the normal live cd doesnt work (and extensive searches on 8600gts inability to work in ubuntu properly)
[09:42] <jim1212> why dont my msn connect for?
[09:42] <gnuskool_> uguestu:updates for linux, that update certain parts of the OS, that may cause other parts not to suddenly work
[09:42] <arnath> soundray: so i'm a bit beat at the moment :p
[09:42] <Shapeshifter> usr13: ok I'll do that. any other groups maybe besides adm and audio? video maybe? ;)
[09:42] <uguestu> i have done a fare bit of updates over the last few days gnuskool
[09:42] <dmitry_> erUSUL: my bandwidth :(
[09:43] <gnuskool_> uguestu:read and follow the link from ubotu
[09:43] <soundray> arnath: I don't know what you did wrong of course, but it's happened to me that I succeeded on a second or third attempt, without knowing exactly what made the difference.
[09:43] <uguestu> Ok gnuskool
[09:43] <fondor1> thehollowwithin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
[09:43] <soundray> arnath: now I know that's not a principled approach, but if it's about getting things running, I don't mind being a bit un-principled.
[09:43] <wib> hey, in 2 weeks ubuntu 7.10 will come out. how easy will it be to upgrade? will everything run as it does now? how about compiz fusion, codecs, settings, all that stuff?
[09:43] <PKdoR> hey is winrar or 7z available for ubuntu?
[09:43] <arnath> soundray: btw, the setup is -> one sata drive with an old version of windows on it (old = from another computer, i just imported the harddrive), one sata drive with linux on it
[09:43] <arnath> soundray: could the windows drive be causing me problems?
[09:43] <Shapeshifter> usr13: or gdm... anyway I'll just fix adm and audio for now. brb Thank you VERY much!
[09:44] <soundray> arnath: no, I doubt that very much
[09:44] <shearn89> wib: very easy - the update manager will automatically find the update if you have an internet connection.
[09:44] <usr13> Shapeshifter: admin plugdvd cdrom  several places you should be.
[09:44] <arnath> soundray: then i shall repeat my steps and hopefully i will be more successful
[09:44] <usr13> Ok
[09:44] <jallen> my problem - usb jump drive detected but not mounted on insertion after previous use and ejection.  Have always had to reboot but would like to know how to fix this w/o reboot.  Anyone?
[09:44] <soundray> arnath: do you know which the bios treats as first and which as second?
[09:44] <kkathman> wib:  however, some things might need tweaking after the upgrade, they always do :)
[09:44] <arnath> soundray: btw, my partition table is this: 10 gig for /, []  gig for /home, 2 gig for swap and bootable on the / partition
[09:45] <soundray> arnath: all on the second drive?
[09:45] <arnath> soundray: for booting or in general?
[09:45] <usr13> Go for it.  I'm pretty sure that's all that's wrong. But don't know for sure.  Havent' seen this issue before.  COme back, let us know
[09:45] <arnath> soundray: yes
[09:45] <wib> shearn89: sounds nice, kkathman, alright, the hassle is half the fun!
[09:45] <uguestu> gnuskool- i aint got no pvt from ubotu et
[09:45] <uguestu> yet*
[09:45] <shearn89> wib: kkathman is right - also some 3rd party stuff may need tweaking/reinstalling/upgrading...
[09:45] <soundray> arnath: if it swaps between booting and Linux taking over, that might explain the problem.
[09:46] <kkathman> wib sure - i've upgraded every time since warty, and for the most part everything does pretty good.
[09:46] <djm62> is there an easy way to share my wired connection through wifi on my laptop for when I have friends visiting?
[09:46] <qwerty> ghghghghhhghgg
[09:46] <arnath> soundray: ah, in the original lineup, the windows drive was first to be booted, but i changed this explicitly in the bios
[09:46] <shearn89> djm62: you'd need a wireless router.
[09:47] <desper> wifi radar?
[09:47] <shearn89> djm62: i don't think they'd be able to connect to your laptop and then to the net.
[09:47] <djm62> :-( it's just two network cards
[09:47] <shearn89> djm62: how come?
[09:47] <Soskel> hi
[09:47] <sid> I only have one hard disk on my desktop, how can I do a file system check?
[09:47] <sid> I shouldn't do it while the file system is mounted right?
[09:47] <uguestu> gnuskool_
[09:47] <soundray> arnath: to increase your probability of succeeding, you could remove the Windows hard disk.
[09:47] <uguestu> wheres the pvt?
[09:48] <shearn89> sid: don't know, but if thats the case, try the livecd.
[09:48] <arnath> soundray: ok, i will try that
[09:48] <desper> misread the problem sorry
[09:48] <arnath> soundray: haha, its fixed
[09:48] <soundray> arnath: ?
[09:48] <arnath> soundray: what you suggested about it switching between grub and actual booting
[09:48] <arnath> soundray: i switched the internal harddisk boot lineup and now it works
[09:48] <djm62> my internet connection is fiddly, my friends use windows XP and I have no idea how to make it work with it.  Macs can apparently do this, which makes it seem bizarre that ubuntu can't.  I did this in uni with wired:wired, but have long since forgotten how
[09:48] <soundray> arnath: whew
[09:48] <sid> shearn89: I have no floppy or disc drives.
[09:49] <arnath> soundray: thanks a lot, it wouldn't have occurred to me in a million years
[09:49] <shearn89> sid: how did you install?
[09:49] <arnath> soundray: now i just have to fix my nvidia drivers so my x doesnt go blank on boot and im set! :)
[09:49] <sid> shearn89: dd'd an image from another machine to the hard disk
[09:49] <rhalff> :-o I can ask support questions in #ubuntu now
[09:49] <soundray> arnath: good luck
[09:49] <rhalff> \:D/
[09:49] <arnath> soundray: thx :)
[09:49] <Shapeshifter> usr13: no success :( I added myself to adm, cdrom, sudo, audio and plugdev
[09:49] <rhalff> what happend with ubuntu-support
[09:49] <Flare183> When I launch beryl I get a white screen, how do I fix this?
[09:50] <soundray> !hi | Soskel
[09:50] <ubotu> Soskel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:50] <shearn89> sid: ah. hmmm. maybe mount the whole drive as a network share and check it on another computer?
[09:50] <gnuskool_> uguestu:what do you mean by pvt?
[09:50] <arnath> soundray: should i use "recovery mode" to install the nvidia drivers?
[09:50] <shearn89> Flare183: i think the beryl users call that WSD... there's a beryl support channel somewhere... hang on.
[09:50] <Shapeshifter> usr13: everything is still the same.
[09:50] <Flare183> ok
[09:51] <soundray> arnath: do you have no X at all at present?
[09:51] <Flare183> shearn:> ok
[09:51] <usr13> Shapeshifter: look at the file again. (be sure you saved changes)
[09:51] <arnath> soundray: indeed, no X at all, the screen goes blank once ubuntu is done loading
[09:51] <uguestu> gnuskool_ you said i should get a message off of ubtu
[09:51] <jallen> Anyone???  my problem - usb jump drive detected but not mounted on insertion after previous use and ejection.  Have always had to reboot but would like to know how to fix this w/o reboot.  Anyone?
[09:51] <soundray> arnath: do you know what driver is currently active?
[09:51] <usr13> Shapeshifter: Past it again. let me see.
[09:51] <menfir> trying to install ubuntu but livecd can't start x server: error is "no screens found" im on a laptop any suggestions?
[09:51] <arnath> soundray: hmm, not sure how i figure that one out
[09:52] <menfir> im a noob btw
[09:52] <Shapeshifter> usr13: yes I did check. I'll paste again...
[09:52] <usr13> Shapeshifter: You didn't leave any spaces?
[09:52] <gnuskool_> uguestu:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:52] <soundray> arnath: what's happening right now?
[09:52] <gnuskool_> uguestu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:53] <Shapeshifter> http://paste.uni.cc/17298
[09:53] <usr13> Shapeshifter: This file is named group  Right?   e.g. /etc/group
[09:53] <cliechti> menfir: newer model with ATI card?
[09:53] <arnath> soundray: im booting again, hoping a ctrl+alt+backspace will kill my x and give me command line
[09:53] <Shapeshifter> usr13: http://paste.uni.cc/17298 yes, it's /etc/group
[09:53] <menfir> laptop with nvidia geforce 8600gs
[09:53] <soundray> arnath: it probably won't. Try Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a console.
[09:54] <arnath> soundray: last time i tried to install the drivers, i had to kill the X, otherwise it wouldnt install
[09:54] <gnuskool_> uguestu: try this quickly, in term type sudo modprobe snd-   but dont press enter press TAB till you see the module for your card
[09:54] <usr13> Shapeshifter: You should not have added yourself to sudo
[09:54] <arnath> soundray: also, quick question, how can i get the drivers off the official nvidia site in the command line?
[09:54] <uguestu> gnuskool_- Display all 150 posibilities?
[09:54] <Shapeshifter> usr13: I thought of just creating a new user (which would get all the standart privileges) Ok does it harm? I'll remove it later
[09:55] <carl0s-> I'm testing the latest Gutsy beta on my Thinkpad T43p, and the screen is set to "Dim when idle", the only problem is that moving the mouse (i.e. becoming un-idle) doesn't undim the screen. I have to use the function keys on the laptop. Also, the brightness on-screen display slider bar doesn't move as it should. It just flickers and stays at the minimum, although it does actually alter the brightness. Are these known bugs?
[09:55] <jallen> one last try... my problem - usb jump drive detected but not mounted on insertion after previous use and ejection.  Have always had to reboot but would like to know how to fix this w/o reboot.  Anyone?
[09:55] <soundray> arnath: I don't know -- I would stick to the ubuntu packages if at all possible
[09:55] <soundray> carl0s-: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <arnath> soundray: ive been looking at this particular problem for a while now, and the packages are not sufficient
[09:55] <arnath> soundray: or so i've read over and over again
[09:56] <carl0s-> soundray: thanks
[09:56] <cliechti> menfir: maybe same prob with nvidia. some of the newer gfx cards are not supported by the kernel driver but need the proprietary driver
[09:56] <shearn89> Flare183: didn't find it in the channel search button - just checking the forums. i know i've seen the link somewhere....
[09:56] <usr13> Shapeshifter: ls /home
[09:56] <usr13> show me  ^^
[09:56] <arnath> soundray: what i could do, is activate the ummm, default drivers, something starting with a "v", this should work enough to allow me to open X
[09:57] <arnath> soundray: but i'm not sur ehow to change it and i forgot the name :D
[09:57] <soundray> arnath: I see. Did you find anything about vesa mode not working on your card?
[09:57] <arnath> soundray: o ye vesa, thats it
[09:57] <arnath> soundray: i believe that should work, but i dont know how to activate it
[09:57] <Flare183> shearn89:> ok take your time
[09:57] <soundray> arnath: exactly, let's try to get that going.
[09:57] <usr13> Shapeshifter: and what user do you see in output of    who
[09:57] <shearn89> Flare183: ahah! #ubuntu-effects. So simple when you think about it :-) !
[09:57] <Flare183> ok
[09:58] <shearn89> Flare183: hopefully they can help you.
[09:58] <Flare183> shearn89:> ok thanks
[09:58] <Shapeshifter> usr13: shapeshifter@ShapeshifterUlap:~$ ls /home .......next line ......shapeshifter (copy pasted ;) )
[09:58] <Evanlec> possible to bring up multiple ssh sessions with my ubuntu box?
[09:58] <Shapeshifter> dammit sorry :|
[09:58] <soundray> Evanlec: client or server sessions
[09:58] <gnuskool_> uguestu: we trying to find out the name of the module for your sound card, then we add whatever that name is to the end of the command "sudo modprobe snd-" the goal is to put in sudo modprob snd-al260 or whatever the card is
[09:58] <Evanlec> soundray: im on putty right now connected to my ubuntu box
[09:58] <gustavo> Hi. A dump question... How do I select GDM as the default display manager? The current one is KDM
[09:58] <shearn89> Evanlec: clients yes - i think you just open two terminal windows?
[09:59] <shearn89> i could be wrong.
[09:59] <Shapeshifter> usr13: who = http://paste.uni.cc/17299
[09:59] <arnath> soundray: if i open xorg.conf and change (in section "Device") the driver from "nv" to "vesa", would that do it?
[09:59] <Evanlec> shearn89: how to do that with putty on windows?
[09:59] <usr13> Shapeshifter: I need to see the output of ls /home
[09:59] <uguestu> i'm not sure what my card is gnuskool_
[09:59] <Shapeshifter> the output of ls /home is: shapeshifter
[09:59] <shearn89> Evanlec: i'm not familiar with putty, but can you just run it twice? giving you two separate processes?
[09:59] <Evanlec> shearn89: tahts what i was thinking, but was wondering if there was a more 'elegant' way
[10:00] <shearn89> Evanlec: on 'nix there's a terminal emulator called Screen.
[10:00] <gnuskool_> uguestu: type in sudo modprobe snd- then press TAb, read through the file , you'll recognise it when you see it
[10:00] <Evanlec> shearn89: cant i just launch a new tty thru my existing session?
[10:00] <shearn89> Evanlec: i guess that would work - i don't know huge amounts about windows terminals....
[10:00] <soundray> arnath: yes, try that.
[10:01] <arnath> soundray: its working
[10:01] <soundray> arnath: sry, phone, away for a while
[10:01] <arnath> soundray: ok
[10:01] <soundray> !nvidia | arnath
[10:01] <ubotu> arnath: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <dmitry_> erUSUL, are you here?
[10:01] <uguestu> gnuskool_- I have no idea. I know that it's Intel I think
[10:01] <Evanlec> soundray: how do i launch a new terminal in my current ssh session (using putty)
[10:02] <gnuskool_> uguestu: ill have a search online, hang on
[10:02] <soundray> !screen | Evanlec
[10:02] <ubotu> Evanlec: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:02] <uguestu> ok gnuskool_
[10:02] <kist> how to disable ctrl-3 = escape bind on bash terminal?
[10:02] <Evanlec> screen!
[10:02] <shearn89> soundray: he's on windows though...
[10:03] <shearn89> Evanlec: ?
[10:03] <sulo> Could anybody please tell me how to change keymap in gdm... I'm going creeeazy
[10:03] <shearn89> sulo: do you mean like us to uk?
[10:03] <Evanlec> lol...im on widnows but im connected to my ubuntu box...
[10:03] <Shapeshifter> usr13: the output of ls /home is: shapeshifter , and who gives me http://paste.uni.cc/17299
[10:03] <gnuskool_> uguestu: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[10:04] <shearn89> Evanlec: then screen should do the trick. try "man screen" for more info. or install it.
[10:04] <Some_ux> can i prevent users from seeing directories ?
[10:04] <Evanlec> shearn89: kk
[10:04] <_Johny> bye
[10:04] <Shapeshifter> Some_ux: put a . (dot) in front of them ;)
[10:04] <Evanlec> how do i escape to a terminal while im running irssi?
[10:04] <shearn89> Evanlec: i think you have to disconnect.
[10:05] <shearn89> try "/ quit" without the space
[10:05] <Some_ux> Shapershifter: i cant those are directories used by the system
[10:05] <shearn89> Some_ux: no, they're just hidden by default.
[10:05] <federicomattes> Hi! I have sound on my Ubuntu 6.06LTS but when I try to open ALSAMIXER I get this message:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[10:05] <umop-apisdn> stupid newbie tricks: i'm getting destination unreachable trying to ping an internet address. i can ping a lan address. internet is obviously functioning, as *this* machine is on irc. all addresses are numeric, so it's not dns. what gives?
[10:05] <Evanlec> shearn89: oh darn, k
[10:05] <rafaelle> teste
[10:06] <umop-apisdn> rafaelle: just the one?
[10:06] <Shapeshifter> Some_ux: U can just create a directory with a name like .hiddenfolder they are not for system use only.
[10:06] <djm62> umop-apisdn: machine is down?
[10:06] <Pelo> umop-apisdn, maybe the ppl in #networking might have an idea
[10:06] <usr13> Shapeshifter: That's the same link you sent before.
[10:07] <fujin> umop-apisdn: the address is down?
[10:07] <shearn89> umop-apisdn: @rafaelle - rofl. @destination unreacable - can you ping your proxy/router?
[10:07] <federicomattes> Hi! I have sound on my Ubuntu 6.06LTS but when I try to open ALSAMIXER I get this message:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[10:07] <umop-apisdn> djm62: target (internet) machine in question is the one i'm typing on
[10:07] <umop-apisdn> fujin: see my response to djm62
[10:07] <Shapeshifter> usr13: uhm yes. that's the output of who
[10:07] <fujin> fierwall?
[10:07] <fujin> traceroute?
[10:07] <fujin> need. more. details.
[10:08] <umop-apisdn> shearn89: happy pings for local machines, router. not internet addresses
[10:08] <kkmaslowski_> hello, i updated to gutsy,I use compiz-fusion, but i chave only one desktop, how can i turn on more virtual desktops?
[10:08] <shearn89> umop-apisdn: hmm. Do you use a proxy?
[10:08] <rafaelle> ...
[10:09] <umop-apisdn> shearn89: no.
[10:09] <federicomattes> Hi! I have sound on my Ubuntu 6.06LTS but when I try to open ALSAMIXER I get this message:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device   ANY IDEA???
[10:09] <Pelo> kkmaslowski_,  #ubuntu-effects
[10:09] <shearn89> umop-apisdn: weird. can you ping any internet addresses?
[10:10] <Shapeshifter> usr13: or the wohle thing http://paste.uni.cc/17300
[10:10] <umop-apisdn> shearn89: "connect: Network is unreachable."
[10:10] <Pelo> federicomattes, hard to say but if you have sound I would say don'T worry about it ,  if you want to you can check how many devices you have listed,  maybe you just ahve a double of one and it's not all thatgood or something , if you get my meanning
[10:10] <usr13> Shapeshifter: was looking for output of ls home  (you can put that here).
[10:10] <uguestu> ok gnuskool_
[10:11] <uguestu> what should i do now
[10:11] <Shapeshifter> usr13: yeah, maybe u missed it, i wrote 3 times that the output of ls /home is shapeshifter ;)
[10:11] <shearn89> umop-apisdn: okay. but you can still view pages in firefox?
[10:11] <thehollowwithin> thanks
[10:11] <Shapeshifter> usr13: http://paste.uni.cc/17302
[10:11] <Pelo> kkmaslowski_,  when you have compiz enable the "workspaces" are handled by the cube pluggin , which  defaults to one side,  so you need to change it ,  don'T ask me how ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:12] <gnuskool_> uguestu: what was the outcome of that?
[10:12] <shearn89> kkmaslowski_: try ctrl-alt-right
[10:12] <shearn89> kkmaslowski_: i think thats the default for switching workspaces.
[10:12] <J-_> Is there a system restore function where I can restore my system back to how it was a few days ago?
[10:12] <riotkittie> J-_: no :o
[10:12] <Pelo> shearn89, read my comment to kkmaslowski_
[10:12] <Roscar> Hi, I'm trying to install xmms2 and the package managers don't seem to think it exists. I went into system>adminstration>software sources and selected all the different sources (main to multiverse).
[10:13] <shearn89> Pelo: oh. yeah. what he said. (damn this lag...)
[10:13] <J-_> and goes back to what he was doing
[10:13] <kkmaslowski_> shearn89 i think i have only 1 virtual desktop, because the ctrl+alt+left or right don't waor
[10:13] <riotkittie> Roscar: perhaps its not in the repos for the release you're using?
[10:13] <gnuskool_> federicomattes: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=157454
[10:13] <shearn89> kkmaslowski_: see Pelo's post. ignore me.
[10:13] <Pelo> Roscar, if xmms2 came after feisty it won't be in the repos,  versions only change with release, you only get updates during the course of one release
[10:14] <Roscar> roitkittie: i'm using fiesty.
[10:14] <D4RT5> hey
[10:14] <federicomattes> Pelo I would like to check if all devices are installed. But I don't know how, since I'm newbie. The sound worked perfect until yesterday when I was trying to install a Bluetooth headset for Skype.
[10:14] <uguestu> gnuskool_- nothing. no outcome.
[10:14] <Pelo> kkmaslowski_, the ppl in #ubuntu-effects can tell you how to install the config thingy so you can change it easily
[10:14] <uguestu> gnuskool_-
[10:14] <uguestu> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[10:14] <uguestu> Password:
[10:14] <uguestu> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$
[10:14] <Pelo> federicomattes, try doing it throught  the icon in the top panel
[10:15] <gnuskool_> uguestu: any sound??
[10:15] <federicomattes> Pelo how? which icon?
[10:15] <Pelo> Roscar, xmms2 is not available in the feisty repos
[10:16] <Roscar> ok
[10:16] <Roscar> thanks
[10:16] <uguestu> No gnuskool_
[10:16] <uguestu> Nothing
[10:16] <riotkittie> !info xmms2 feisty
[10:16] <ubotu> Package xmms2 does not exist in feisty
[10:16] <riotkittie> oops. i am slow :\
[10:16] <Pelo> federicomattes,  the volume icon, right click, prefs,  top of the dialog
[10:16] <Pelo> fred just a guess
[10:17] <uguestu> gnuskool_- When I go to open up a .mp3 in XMMS it says "Please check your soundcard is configured properly."
[10:17] <Shapeshifter> usr13: you don't have any other idea?
[10:18] <federicomattes> Pelo:  I have INTEL ICH6 (Alsa mixer) selected
[10:18] <ttyS1> is it possible to run Mac OS X apps on Ubuntu ?
[10:18] <Pelo> federicomattes,  that was my only guess try this instead
[10:18] <Pelo> !sound > federicomattes check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[10:18] <federicomattes> Pelo thanks for your help
[10:19] <Ceriak> hello
[10:19] <Pelo> what little there was of it
[10:19] <Pelo> hello Ceriak
[10:19] <uguestu> ttyS1- nothing's impossible :-)
[10:19] <pierre_> hi
[10:19] <Ceriak> I have a really annoying bug, I've done some googling, but I haven't found anything like that
[10:20] <Pelo> Ceriak, dont, make us guess, tell us the problem
[10:20] <Shapeshifter> usr13: if you're still there - i'll be back
[10:20] <uguestu> gnuskool_- it's not going to work?
[10:20] <Pelo> that sounded like a treath
[10:21] <pierre_> where to put speed setup for network wireless card (name file)
[10:21] <Ceriak> so, if i click on an item in the bookmark menu, the contect menu of that item is coverd by teh context menu of the page
[10:21] <Pelo> Ceriak,  in FF ? I get that too, not sure what it is , just click randomly and it goes away
[10:21] <Ceriak> yep
[10:21] <Ceriak> hm
[10:22] <kurbaci1> do you have freeze problems and huge files in /var/log ?
[10:22] <kurbaci1> any freeze problems with feisty 64bit?
[10:22] <Pelo> Ceriak, mind you for me it's not all the time but only occasionnaly,  for some reasons my mouse'S click sensitiviity seems a bit off sometimes, I also occasionnaly can't click a OK button unless I move away from it and then come back
[10:23] <Pelo> kurbaci1, do you have anything  unusual running when this happens ?
[10:23] <markelhas> !usb
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Pelo> kurbaci1, by unusual I mean sometihing not part of the default install
[10:24] <Ceriak> Pelo, I'm not sure, but maybe I have simmilar problems sometimes
[10:24] <markelhas> !linux pen
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux pen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <Pelo> markelhas, what do you need to know
[10:24] <markelhas> !linux usb
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <markelhas> Pelo, how to install ubuntu in a usb pen drive
[10:24] <Ceriak> but random click doesn't really solves the problem with context menus
[10:24] <Pelo> !install | markelhas
[10:24] <ubotu> markelhas: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:24] <sachac> I'm trying to upgrade dapper to feisty in preparation for moving to gutsy, but update-manager -c can't guess the meta-package and wants me to install ubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop. As I don't want to install a gazillion things, would it be kosher to make an equivalent package using equivs and trick my system?
[10:25] <Pelo> Ceriak, when random doesn't work I click on copy, it's doesn'T do anything bad and clears the extra menu
[10:25] <gnuskool_> uguestu: check in alsamixer if external amp is on, press m on it
[10:25] <reverseblade> soundray, hey thanks a lot
[10:25] <uguestu> gnuskool_- how?
[10:25] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi I have an odd problem that has gone totally persistent, I type both english and german messages so i like to switch between keyboards but the keyboard switcher just does not seem to work for me whenever I change the setting to german, all I can type a "third and fourth level" symbols such as: e    e which is supposed to read hello this is a test
[10:25] <Pelo> sachac,  you can't upgrade from dapper to fiesty,   upgrade won't skip a version,  so dapper > edgy > feisty,   but I recommend you just wait for gutsy and make a clean install
[10:25] <sachac> (... I mean, dapper->edgy->feisty->... gutsy, of course.)
[10:25] <gnuskool_> uguestu: type alsamixer in term
[10:25] <Redhammer_the_Ol> any help highly appreaciated I am at my wits end
[10:26] <nickrud> sachac: the real problem you have is the jumping over of edgy; ubuntu really only supports single release upgrades. On the equivs, you'll miss a lot of new functionality, depending
[10:26] <sachac> Pelo: Right. I guess that's the best, then. update-manager -c does offer to upgrade to 6.10 (edgy), but won't proceed without the meta package.
[10:26] <uguestu> gnuskool_- ok got that up. where is external amp?
[10:26] <reverseblade> soundray, I understand the issue . It seems my laptops fan output is filled with some stuff. And this results in insufficient cooling. And it turned it self right at I am hibernating thus broked the file system. Rebooting and e2fsck fixed it
[10:26] <genii> Redhammer_the_Ol: Did you ask in #ubuntu-de  already?
[10:27] <sachac> nickrud, Pelo: Thanks anyway!
[10:27] <Ceriak> hm, thx, I will give it  atry. But it should be fixed, isn't it? Should I post a bug issue about it? But it seems so obvious that it must have been reported by someone... :unsure:
[10:27] <gnuskool_> uguestu: green means something is on, grey means off, so use arow keys till you se amp, press m when its highlighted
[10:27] <Pelo> sachac,   I recommend you move your /home to a seperate partition that way you can clean intall without messing your  data and settings or bacingup
[10:27] <Pelo> damid
[10:27] <Redhammer_the_Ol> @ geni this is not a german issue it happens with some keyboard layouts its odd
[10:27] <nickrud> lol, you read my mind
[10:27] <gnuskool_> uguestu: make sure volumes are up etc
[10:27] <uguestu> gnuskool_- no such "amp"
[10:27] <uguestu> i dont see that
[10:28] <Pelo> Ceriak, i've never worried much about it so I can'T tell you ,  I never realy thought about it
[10:28] <uguestu> gnuskool_- i think it's drivers after that message in xmms
[10:28] <uguestu> to configure it properly
[10:28] <Ceriak> anyway, thank you for your advice
[10:28] <jadams> so I'm getting 'Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0' when I sudo ifup ath0
[10:28] <jadams> just trying to switch from madwifi (wasn't working) to ndiswrapper
[10:28] <Ceriak> good night!
[10:29] <nickrud> jadams: do you have an ath0 definition in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:30] <mohammed> How to open rar in ubuntu
[10:30] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:30] <aLeSD> I have a problem reading a dvd
[10:30] <Pelo> mohammed, in the terminal   sudo apt-get install unrar   then  right lick the file > extract
[10:30] <nickrud> !rar | mohammed
[10:30] <ubotu> mohammed: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:31] <gnuskool_> uguestu: ok put this in term sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[10:31] <jadams> nickrud, I don't...
[10:31] <uguestu> done gnuskool_
[10:32] <pierre_> i want more speed to wireless card than 24mb
[10:32] <kurbaci1> my install is very non-standard, i use the 1.0-9631 nvidia proprietary drivers, i've read that unselecting the "sync to vblank" option might help
[10:32] <gnuskool_> sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[10:32] <uguestu> ok
[10:32] <nickrud> jadams: then you'll need to make one. I just recognize that error; I'm not even sure if you get an ath0 with ndiswrapper. You might want to look at !wifi for some guidance
[10:32] <uguestu> one sec
[10:32] <mohammed> thank you <ubotu>
[10:32] <jadams> !wifi
[10:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:32] <is_null> hello everybody, i got a copy of ubuntu PPC and a G4 iMac, any idea how i get to boot the cd please ?
[10:33] <pierre_> thank ubotu
[10:33] <whonicca> hello, how do i add a user with gnome access to my system via command line?
[10:33] <Davy_Jones> !thanks
[10:33] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:33] <Pelo> is_null, I donT, use a mack I suggest you try checking in he forum , it's bound to be there  www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:33] <genii> is_null: Hold down C key while booting
[10:33] <is_null> thanks genii
[10:33] <Davy_Jones> mack 10
[10:33] <uguestu> ok done gnuskool_
[10:33] <Pelo> kurbaci1, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[10:33] <gnuskool_> uguestu: reboot, se you back here
[10:33] <genii> is_null: np
[10:33] <uguestu> ok gnuskool_
[10:33] <uguestu> one sec
[10:34] <nickrud> jadams: but a standard entry would be something like  auto ath0[eth0|wlan0]   <newline> interface ath0[or so]   inet dhcp
[10:34] <kurbaci1> my install is very non-standard, i use the 1.0-9631 nvidia proprietary drivers, i've read that unselecting the "sync to vblank" option might help
[10:34] <Innomen> can i install truecrypt and moutn an encrypted volume via livecd?
[10:35] <Pelo> kurbaci1, a bit over my head,  are you actualy having difficulties ?  you might try asking in ##linux a bit more leet , they might know
[10:35] <uguestu> brb gnuskool_
[10:35] <gnuskool_> o_O
[10:36] <Poundo> where is GD I thought it bundled with php since 4. something but it's not showing up in phpInfo on my dapper install
[10:36] <Pelo> Innomen, it no reboot is required yes,  check in synaptic (in the admin menu) then just use the regular mount command I guess of the encrypted one if here is a special one
[10:36] <jadams> nickrud, here's my file, same problem: http://pastie.caboo.se/103467
[10:37] <Innomen> the live cd is not seeing my wireless card, i have the install cd
[10:37] <Innomen> what do i do?
[10:37] <Innomen> xp just scared the ^%&* out of me
[10:37] <Pelo> Innomen, install cd of what ?  ubuntu ? or trucrypt ?
[10:38] <Innomen> it shows my 300 gb encrypted drives as 128s with folders and everything, like it wiped out the headers
[10:38] <nickrud> jadams: combine the last two lines, iface ath0 inet dhcp ; but first, you might as well give NetworkManager a shot at it: remove all references to ath0 from that file, and see if you can connect by selecting a network from the applet
[10:38] <Innomen> but live cd reports them as unallocated still, (as they should be)
[10:38] <jadams> nickrud, none exist in the applet at present
[10:38] <Gordon_Bliff> Hey guys! do you how to set up quardruple loudspeakers up in ubuntu?
[10:38] <jadams> nickrud, combining the lines, same result
[10:38] <Innomen> if i can get to the net, download truecrypt, and via thier contents i will uninstall xp never to return
[10:38] <nickrud> jadams: then does iwconfig say you have a working wireless setup?
[10:39] <Pelo> Innomen,   menu > system> admin > synaptic package manager :  search : crypt   see what is available
[10:39] <Innomen> the install cd i have is for my wireless pci network card
[10:39] <jadams> nickrud, http://pastie.caboo.se/103469
[10:39] <Innomen> i will do that after i can see the net from that machine
[10:39] <slimz> anyone know a good place to start on setting up a virtual os, i currently have virtualbox installed, but need to know what to do on the ubuntu end to give it open network access
[10:40] <Shapeshifter> usr13: u still there?
[10:40] <Pelo> Innomen, then try this,   boot windows, copy the drivers from the cd to a usb driver or someting,  boot bac the live cd and use the usb drive to  setup the wifi
[10:40] <MasterShrek> slimz, my vms have network access by default, using qemu, but i think its the same as vbox
[10:40] <PKdoR> I just unstalled 7s Full from the repos but I cant start it
[10:40] <Innomen> like run the cd installer via wine?
[10:40] <Innomen> card*
[10:40] <PKdoR> I mean 7z
[10:41] <nickrud> jadams: well, you've about reached my wireless knowledge :) I use wifi-radar as a check on nm-applet, checking to see if I'm seeing any wireless. My wireless works, and I'm not rocking the boat by trying to learn it better
[10:41] <Pelo> Innomen, run the card using  ndiswrapper
[10:41] <MasterShrek> PKdoR, you dont 'start' 7z, you use it when u unarchive a 7z file
[10:41] <Pelo> !wifi | Innomen read this
[10:41] <ubotu> Innomen read this: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <Innomen> thank you
[10:41] <Innomen> will do
[10:41] <brokensambot> Does anyone know the exact date 7.10 is being released?
[10:41] <Pelo> brokensambot,  should be the 18th
[10:41] <nickrud> brokensambot: scheduled for the 18th
[10:41] <MasterShrek> Innomen, what kind of wifi card is it?
[10:42] <gnuskool> join #remote-exploit
[10:42] <bliffle> I solved my wireless problems by buying an "Airlink101": $30 at Frys
[10:42] <soundray> reverseblade: well done, thanks for letting me know
[10:42] <Poundo> there is no gd.so in my /usr/lib/php5/20051025 where my other .so's are
[10:43] <PKdoR> so how do i open rar files with 7z then?
[10:43] <tannerld> whats the best way to have a share a folder/drive with a macosx machine from ubuntu?
[10:43] <PKdoR> its not opening them
[10:43] <soundray> arnath: how are you getting on?
[10:43] <MasterShrek> PKdoR, z7r --help in a terminal will give you uses
[10:43] <Pelo> PKdoR,  sudo apt-get install unrar  then right click the file and extract
[10:43] <gausie> hey when i try to apt-get install php, it says couldn't find package php
[10:43] <gausie> and suggestions?
[10:43] <darkmavis> sera
[10:43] <soundray> nickrud: don't let it bring you down. Everybody loves you here :)
[10:44] <Disorganized_> leave britney alone!
[10:44] <Disorganized_> :D
[10:44] <Innomen> I'm sorry but thats too vauge, and according to this page "These instructions apply only when using the x86 Alternate CD."
[10:44] <soundray> nickrud: except Pelo apparently...
[10:44] <Innomen> for the wrapper
[10:44] <Pelo> Innomen, they don'T
[10:45] <nickrud> lol, nah, it's a ongoing competition for fastest fingers in the west (or north)
[10:45] <crispy-afk> How good is ubuntu at supporting weird inputs like IR devices?
[10:45] <Innomen> the card is reported as a broadcom bcm4306
[10:45] <Shapeshifter> usr13: I created a new user and logged in, but everything is the same over there. Adding me to audio seemed to fix the sound but I can't sudo with eighter my own user account or with the second test account I created
[10:45] <Innomen> does that mean it can use it?
[10:45] <Pelo> crispy-afk, I suggest you look up the device in the forum and in here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:46] <Innomen> this install of ubuntu connected to my wireless during the install process it didnt need any configuration of any kind
[10:46] <alcaponage> Can anyone help me? My ubuntu won't shut off or "Alt Ctrl Backspace"
[10:46] <alcaponage> When I shut it down, my menus disappear and my background stays
[10:46] <zeeble> hi. was trying to install msttcorefonts.. but doesnt work, because the fonts are apparently not on sf.net anymore. get a 403 error.. now each time i try to install any other package, apt waants to install msttcorefonts.. i tried removing it, and also using dpkg, but none works.
[10:46] <crispy-afk> Pelo will check it, but really doubt its listed there ;)
[10:46] <arnath> im using the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site (cause my 8600gts isnt supported by ubuntu yet), but i cant get my resolution right, its at 720x480 at this moment...
[10:47] <Innomen> so i guess my question is how can i make ubuntu livecd see and use the belkin wireless card?
[10:47] <arnath> my xorg.conf lists the correct resolutions, but i simply cant turn em on
[10:47] <Pelo> alcaponage, try looking in the users permissions see if you are allowed to log off / reboot
[10:47] <soundray> arnath: you probably need to get the monitor section right.
[10:47] <arnath> soundray: hmm, what do you mean by that?
[10:47] <alcaponage> Pelo: how do I do that?
[10:47] <wagner_br|se> Hi, how can i update a library i compiled?
[10:48] <Pelo> crispy-afk,  if your device is supported in any linux distro you can make it work in ubuntu ,  but you might have to do some work
[10:48] <Kopfgeldjaeger> good night
[10:48] <soundray> arnath: best to find out the hsync and vrefresh specs and configure them in 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', using the "Advanced" option in the Monitor section.
[10:48] <Pelo> alcaponage, menu > system > admin> users
[10:48] <alcaponage> Pelo: what do I do in there
[10:48] <soundray> arnath: that's if you have a manual for your monitor or can find the specs on the web
[10:49] <Pelo> alcaponage, select your users,  click properties,  see what permissions it has
[10:49] <alcaponage> Pelo: I see my name and below that; root
[10:49] <bullgard4> Is the command 'truss' availabele in Solaris only, or can I get it in Ubuntu also?
[10:49] <Pelo> alcaponage, select your name , not root , leave root alone
[10:49] <nhmomof2> Hello
[10:49] <nhmomof2> I am new here
[10:49] <despereador> hi
[10:49] <alcaponage> Pelo: What do i look for under User Privileges?
[10:49] <Pelo> nhmomof2, welcome to the mad house
[10:49] <soundray> !hi | nhmomof2
[10:49] <ubotu> nhmomof2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:49] <despereador> I have problem with my laptop device
[10:50] <despereador> and I need this linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20.16-server
[10:50] <nhmomof2> I have a bunch of questions
[10:50] <despereador> anyhelp please
[10:50] <Pelo> alcaponage, it should be self evident,  I'm using a french version so I can'T tell you the english wording,  probably   shutdown log off or something like that
[10:50] <Shapeshifter> I have the following problem. I wanted to add myself to the group "vboxusers" but after I did "sudo usermod -G vboxusers shapeshifter" I now can't sudo anymore (nothing happens, no matter what "sudo ..." command or nonsense like "sudo gedit" or "sudo asdfghjkl" I type), and I have lost all admin privileges. What should I do?
[10:50] <nhmomof2> This is my first time on IRC
[10:50] <alcaponage> Pelo: I don't see shutdown or log off or anything like that
[10:50] <nhmomof2> not as pretty as Pidgin, Kopete, etc.  LOL
[10:50] <Pelo> nhmomof2, just ask your questions, one at atime
[10:51] <soundray> despereador: why do you need the headers?
[10:51] <Pelo> alcaponage, ok just try rebooting with    sudo shutdown or sudo restart then , see if that helps
[10:51] <soundray> despereador: I mean, why do you need the modules package?
[10:51] <despereador> I have problems with some devices on my laptop
[10:51] <coulix> hello
[10:51] <alcaponage> Pelo: It says shutdown: time expected
[10:51] <nhmomof2> First question...I have read and re-read the threads on running Lacie as root.  I JUST DON'T IT!
[10:51] <arnath> soundray: im afraid im not quite qualified to be running that
[10:51] <generalsnus>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY generalsnus
[10:51] <nhmomof2> GET IT
[10:52] <arnath> soundray: its asking me a LOT of questions i dont know the answer to
[10:52] <soundray> despereador: you should say what the problems are
[10:52] <generalsnus> lol
[10:52] <coulix> what is the command line to have a console output of the mouse button pressed
[10:52] <despereador> I just installd ubuntu fawn on my laptop
[10:52] <soundray> arnath: what questions?
[10:52] <Pelo> alcaponage, try with restart then
[10:52] <nhmomof2> I am so new to Ubuntu but I love it and don't want to go back
[10:52] <arnath> soundray: too many to state here i think :D
[10:52] <Pelo> alcaponage,  or reboot , I donT' recall which
[10:52] <despereador> I get many error when iam installing packages
[10:52] <alcaponage> Pelo: I tried "sudo restart" and it said command not found
[10:52] <arnath> soundray: can't i just manually adapt the xorg.conf? thats what i did on my last install and i got it working...somewhat
[10:52] <jadams> nickrud, thanks for the help anyway
[10:52] <soundray> arnath: you've been through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before, haven't you
[10:52] <soundray> ?
[10:53] <despereador> and I have problem when grab loading som error with reading memory
[10:53] <generalsnus> is it possibele to ask for Grub help here_ or is it a another chan for that_
[10:53] <arnath> soundray: i haven't encountered some of these questions, so i suppose not
[10:53] <ckin2001> alcaponage, what are you restarting?
[10:53] <soundray> arnath: just accept all the defaults, until it gets to questions concerning your monitor.
[10:53] <Pelo> nhmomof2,  try using the name of the person you are talking to in each line,  ( if you are taling to someone) and don't use the enterkey for punctuation, makes you hard to follow
[10:53] <alcaponage> shutting down or restarting my laptop
[10:53] <nhmomof2> There are other channels here?
[10:53] <Pelo> alcaponage,  sudo reboot
[10:53] <ckin2001> alcaponage, sudo telinit 6 to reboot
[10:53] <alcaponage> My menus disappear and my background stays
[10:53] <gausie> apt-get can't find php to install - what do i do?
[10:53] <arnath> soundray: this only changes my xorg.conf yes? so if i just back it up, i should be ok?
[10:54] <ckin2001> alcaponage, sudo telinit 0 to shut down
[10:54] <arnath> su
[10:54] <Pelo> nhmomof2,  many thousands,  what is lacie ?
[10:54] <nhmomof2> Gotcha, Pelo.  Thanks
[10:54] <soundray> ckin2001: telinit? what distribution are you on?
[10:54] <zeeble> gausie: apt-cache search php
[10:54] <soundray> arnath: yes
[10:54] <ckin2001> soundray, debian based
[10:54] <alcaponage> Pelo: after I did that, it won't shut down
[10:54] <Shapeshifter> hasn't anyone got the motivation to take challange? ;)
[10:54] <nhmomof2> Pelo, Lacie is the lightscribe labeling software
[10:54] <niCo_1985> i still find it verry funny, as normal user you can click reboot, but you cant do it as a command because you need to be root, where's the logic in that
[10:54] <alcaponage> Pelo: ok, now it is
[10:54] <alcaponage> Pelo that's odd
[10:54] <alcaponage> I used to have 8 updates to install but now they are gone
[10:55] <soundray> niCo_1985: that way you can deny reboot capabilities to remote shell users.
[10:55] <Pelo> alcaponage, my guess is there is something running that is takiing a long time to stop , I get something similar if i try to reboot and all of my   startup progs have not had time to start
[10:55] <alcaponage> Is it because I canceled the downloading?
[10:55] <Pelo> nhmomof2, how did you install it ?
[10:55] <despereador> so =
[10:55] <despereador> how can i get it?
[10:55] <alcaponage> Pelo: Ic, let me restart again to see if it's happening again
[10:55] <Pelo> alcaponage, could be depending on what you tried to stop
[10:55] <soundray> niCo_1985: local users can always pull the plug, so there's no point denying them reboot rights
[10:55] <niCo_1985> soundray, but its fun rebooting someone elses computer from a remote shell
[10:55] <gausie> zeeble: showed me a big list of packages, but apt-get install php still says couldn't find package php
[10:55] <theATOM> how can I edit 3gp videos?
[10:55] <generalsnus> oh the pain... loading stage 1.5..error 21
[10:55] <generalsnus>  i have winxp on sda1 ..and ubuntu on sdb3 .. how can i fix this grub error guys
[10:56] <niCo_1985> soundray, specially the look on their faces
[10:56] <Pelo> theATOM, try with avidemux
[10:56] <alcaponage> Pelo: I was downloading from the "updates" file on the top corner and i canceled the download
[10:56] <Mahr> I have a really hardcracked case if anyone's interested. Upon every boot I get a message saying "Replaying Journal" on my /dev/sda1 (Filesys) drive. It's quite annoying and I'd like to get rid of it :D
[10:56] <nhmomof2> Is it possible to chat with one person who can help?
[10:56] <alcaponage> Pelo: I canceled it because it was taking too long, now it's gone
[10:56] <arnath> soundray: that didnt quite work :<
[10:56] <theATOM> Pelo: it allows me to delete frames?
[10:56] <zeeble> gausie: sudo apt-get install php5
[10:56] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, whats the problem?
[10:56] <niCo_1985> soundray, but i guess im a little evil
[10:56] <arnath> soundray: im still stuck with the same problem
[10:56] <Pelo> alcaponage, that might be it ,   it's an admin function and you just stoped as a users , the comp might not like it
[10:56] <soundray> arnath: what did you set as hsync and vrefresh?
[10:56] <Soskel> hi
[10:56] <wagner_br|se> how i can update the glib?
[10:57] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I can't burn anything with my lightscribe softare
[10:57] <Soskel> how do I install fonts in ubuntu?
[10:57] <generalsnus> alcaponage> i know your pain, can be hard to get help somtimes
[10:57] <soundray> wagner_br|se: only by upgrading the distribution
[10:57] <alcaponage> Pelo: How do I get the updates to appear again so I can download it?
[10:57] <theATOM> Pelo: avidemux doesnt delete frames from videos
[10:57] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, linux doesnt support lightscribe
[10:57] <arnath> soundray: actually i didnt encounter that, i might have taken the wrong option when asked about one part of my screen
[10:57] <soundray> !fonts > Soskel, please read the private message from ubotu
[10:57] <Pelo> theATOM, it does allow you to cut and paste  you can probably get ti down do selecting one frame at a time if you want to , uses the selection  buttons at the bottom , and then you delete from the menu
[10:57] <Mahr> Soskel: http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php
[10:57] <gausie> zeeble: already installed, but its not working with apache2
[10:57] <alcaponage> generalsnus: Pelo helped me with the shutdown problem
[10:57] <Pelo> alcaponage,  sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:57] <Soskel> thankls
[10:58] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, all of the threads on the forums have info on Lacie but I can't get it to work.  It always wants me to be root
[10:58] <Mahr> Soskel: Anytime mate.
[10:58] <soundray> arnath: watch out for the dialog that asks you whether you want to use the Simple, Medium or Advanced method of monitor configuration.
[10:58] <alcaponage> Pelo: I've done that, nothing to upgrade
[10:58] <Pelo> theATOM, I have never tried it for single frames but I have done it for "segments"
[10:58] <zeeble> gausie: eh why not? you prolly have to tweak settings somewhere. mine works fine, though i admit i didnt use apt-get to install php
[10:58] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, add your user to the cdrom group and login again
[10:58] <soundray> arnath: you want advanced. Have you got the numbers?
[10:58] <theATOM> Pelo: how can I delete the first 10 seconds of video?
[10:58] <gausie> zeeble: would you suggest compiling it?
[10:58] <alcaponage> Pelo: before I reinstalled ubuntu, my version was 2.6.20.16 generic, now it's 2.6.20.15
[10:58] <Pelo> alcaponage,  it is possible that your upgrades got completed,  that why the system wouldn'T shut down,  it was waiting
[10:58] <zeeble> gausie: yes
[10:59] <MasterShrek> alcaponage, when you upgrade it will go to .16
[10:59] <alcaponage> Pelo: But it wasn't close to being done
[10:59] <gausie> zeeble: and apt-get removing it beforehand?
[10:59] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that.  Can you walk me through it?
[10:59] <wagner_br|se> soundray: i get the latest to compile the new version of rhythmbox, but it can't find the glib that i compiled. I want the system use this version. how can i do that?
[10:59] <ckin2001> gausie, have libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[10:59] <Pelo> alcaponage, .16 is an kernel update,   ubuntu feisty isntalls with .15 I beleive
[10:59] <alcaponage> MasterShrek: I've sudo apt-get update, but it stays at .15
[10:59] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, system > admin > users i think
[11:00] <arnath> soundray: im lookin into it, but im not entirely sure bout wot kind of screen i have :< cant find the number
[11:00] <gausie> ckin2001, yea already got it
[11:00] <zeeble> gausie: check what ckin2001 said
[11:00] <mactimes> Hello, does any one remember how to fix that problem after enabling nvidia-glx, where the windows title bars disappear?
[11:00] <soundray> wagner_br|se: use or upgrade to the beta version of ubuntu if you want that.
[11:00] <MasterShrek> alcaponage, does it say that some packages are going to be left behind? if not, do you have extra repositories enabled, and did u apt-get update?
[11:00] <adnan_> hey
[11:00] <ubunturos>  /join #kde
[11:00] <ckin2001> gausie, restarted apache since then?
[11:00] <Pelo> mactimes, ask in #ubuntu-effects  it's a decorator problem
[11:00] <gausie> ckin2001, yep :-(
[11:01] <theATOM> how can I delete the first 10 seconds of video?
[11:01] <Mahdy> ghostdog: salam
[11:01] <alcaponage> MasterShrek: it said some files failed to download
[11:01] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I am there
[11:01] <mactimes> Pelo: Oh, ok.  I'll try, thanks!
[11:01] <ghostdog> salam
[11:01] <alcaponage> MasterShrek: those files are .... feisty/multiver/source
[11:01] <soundray> arnath: please ask the others in the channel now, I'm logging off. Note the private message from ubotu, that should help
[11:01] <soundray> !fixres > arnath
[11:01] <Mahr> Ghostdog: Salam
[11:01] <soundray> arnath: good luck'
[11:01] <arnath> ok thx
[11:01] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, look for something about groups and add your user to the cdrom group
[11:02] <nhmomof2> ok
[11:02] <Pelo> theATOM,   in avidemux,  play the video until you get to where you want to start,  click the B button ,  goto menu > edit > delete ( or cut)
[11:02] <theATOM> Pelo:  let me try, brb
[11:03] <theATOM> Pelo: which B button? bottom right?
[11:03] <Soskel> hi again
[11:03] <Pelo> theATOM, just bellow the movie,  toward the middle of the window
[11:03] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I added the group cdrom to the menu
[11:03] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, wasnt it already there?
[11:03] <nhmomof2> no
[11:03] <Soskel> is there a program that I can use to encrypt/decrypt files?
[11:03] <wagner_br|se> soundray: can i do that in the terminal?
[11:03] <Pelo> theATOM,  where you have the play stop etc controls
[11:04] <theATOM> Pelo: yep, seems to work cheers :)
[11:04] <bieb> what is the syntax to cat a file to dev/null?
[11:04] <theATOM> Pelo: but when I play the video no sounds plays. why?
[11:04] <alcaponage> Pelo: is it normal for ubuntu to have a long load time when it boots?
[11:04] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I went back in and it's not there anymore
[11:04] <theATOM> Pelo: says: Trouble initializing audio device
[11:04] <Pelo> theATOM, don'T know , the audio format of that file format might not be playable in avidemux
[11:04] <bullgard4> Is the command 'truss' availabele in Solaris only, or can I get it in Ubuntu also?
[11:05] <nhmomof2> I have root, users, dhcp, syslog, klog, scanner...should I keep going?
[11:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud thx for helping me the other night.
[11:05] <Pelo> theATOM,  are you using your audio card with something else,  like music while doing the editing ?
[11:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud from what i learned from you i got it all fixed
[11:05] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, what is the device for your cdrom? /dev/hdc im assuming
[11:05] <nickrud> coreymanshack: ah, that's good for the ego :)
[11:05] <theATOM> Pelo: no!  never had probs woith sound before
[11:05] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, sudo chmod 777 /dev/hdc      that will be much easier
[11:05] <Pelo> alcaponage,  iI guess it depends on what you have laoding on start ,  mine is fairly quick
[11:05] <theATOM> Pelo: reboot?
[11:05] <coreymanshack> nickrud :P
[11:05] <alcaponage> Pelo: I don't have much loading
[11:06] <alcaponage> Pelo: just compiz
[11:06] <nickrud> Pelo: you see that? ;P
[11:06] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, you want me to type that in terminal?
[11:06] <MasterShrek> yes nhmomof2
[11:06] <kane77> anyone here good at networking (non ubuntu related)
[11:06] <Pelo> theATOM, I don'T know ,  I guess trying whouldn'T hurt but the fact that avidemux can't access the device shouldn'T   make it impossible to edit the file properly
[11:06] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, brings me back to the prompt
[11:06] <erichj> why are you chmoding the cd drive?
[11:06] <Pelo> alcaponage, compiz might be it
[11:06] <coreymanshack> nickrud you can see it at coreymanshack.us.to
[11:06] <nhmomof2> MaasterShrek it asked fr my password
[11:07] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, try whatever u were doing before, you shouldnt need root priviledges anymore
[11:07] <Pelo> nickrud, see what ? sorry I'm doing 3 ppl at once
[11:07] <MasterShrek> yea put it in there nhmomof2
[11:07] <umop-apisdn> kane77: depends on your definition of good... i know a bit of networking, as far as basics... but i'm a windows tech. how about if you ask the question, and see if anyone knows the answer?
[11:07] <Blackkatt> goddamn i fixed Nvidia drivers tjohooo =)
[11:07] <nickrud> Pelo: nm, just a joke
[11:07] <Blackkatt> can some one help me with fuse plz
[11:07] <Pelo> nickrud,  I just read up,  congradulations
[11:07] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I can get into the program, make the label, etc.  Then when I go to burn it says I have to be root
[11:07] <MasterShrek> !ask | Blackkatt
[11:07] <ubotu> Blackkatt: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:08] <Pelo> Blackkatt, just ask a specific quesitons
[11:08] <Shapeshifter> usr13: FYI I fixed it, I found a nice sample file of /etc/group and obviously i needed to put my name behind "admin:", too for it to work ^^. Everything back to normal.
[11:08] <nickrud> coreymanshack: looks good, but I see no credits ;P
[11:08] <coreymanshack> nickrud haha.
[11:08] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, u can run the program using gksu also, just edit the shortcut to it and put gksu before the command for the program, not really the right way to do it, but it will work
[11:09] <Pelo> coreymanshack, I'm just here to talk frazzled noobs off the ledge
[11:09] <coreymanshack> pelo, that would be me
[11:09] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, do I do that from terminal?
[11:09] <nhmomof2> Sorry I am asking seemingly simple questions
[11:09] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek: well am n00b with linux so i cant fix fuse by my slef, i read about it and it should be the same file system use on xbox media center and i want that
[11:09] <kane77> umop-apisdn, okay, my question is as follows.. I have wifi connection to internet. what I do is I have my computer acting as a router (set up with iptables).. Would wifi bridge help me? (I want to connect to my ISP's AP and have my own AP on the same device)
[11:09] <nickrud> coreymanshack: Pelo is a very helpful human being, with a wicked good sense of humor
[11:09] <bieb> what is the syntax to cat a file to dev/null?
[11:09] <Gin> hi
[11:09] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, yea you can run it from the terminal using gksu program
[11:09] <coreymanshack> nickrud good next time i have a question i'll bug him.
[11:09] <umop-apisdn> kane77: out of my scope, sorry. try #networking
[11:10] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I don't know what to type.  I tried sudo lacie but that did not work
[11:10] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, what do u mean same filesystem as xbmc? xbmc doesnt even have a filesystem, its just a program
[11:10] <_len> hi, can any1 help me installing my nvidia drivers? but I'd like to use the NVIDIA's site driver
[11:10] <Pelo> coreymanshack,  have fun
[11:10] <coreymanshack> pelo: you too
[11:11] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek: hmm well i read that it has one, and that one is fuse that enables virtual file system see trought rar and such
[11:11] <genii> riotkittie: I worry about you sometimes
[11:11] <coreymanshack> lol@mastershrek
[11:11] <alcaponage> Pelo: How come I can't get Adobe Flash?
[11:11] <adrianoc> guys, this is possible, configuration the gedit for complemetation code php ?
[11:11] <MasterShrek> =D
[11:11] <Pelo> !nvidia | _len   try the instrucitons in here and adjust where needed
[11:11] <ubotu> _len   try the instrucitons in here and adjust where needed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:11] <alcaponage> Pelo: It says Package is not available
[11:11] <riotkittie> genii: i worry about me all the time. keeps things interesting, tho :P
[11:11] <gnomefreak> _len: they are unsupported drivers but if you wish to still use them see ubotus output above
[11:11] <Pelo> alcaponage, there is a package in synaptic  just search for non free flash
[11:11] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  they use fuse in xbmc to do that =) and i sooo want that, thats why ive installed linux in the first place
[11:11] <_len> hmmm thx
[11:11] <genii> riotkittie: :)
[11:12] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, thats cool, ive never really looked into that, but it sounds like it would be awesome
[11:12] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, I right clicked on the icon and in the "launcher" tab I have this:  /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/4L-gui
[11:12] <_len> Pelo or gnomefreak, which driver has the best perfomance? binary or from community?
[11:12] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, the only thing ive ever used fuse for was ntfs-3g
[11:12] <gnomefreak> _len: they are the same driver
[11:12] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, that should be good
[11:12] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek: yeah and its available for linux ive dl it and all but have absolutely no clue what to do next
[11:13] <Pelo> alcaponage,  it is possible that you messed up your package handling when you try to kill you update dl ,  I'm not sure how to fix this
[11:13] <gnomefreak> _len: we cant change the drivers since they are non free
[11:13] <adnan_> what are these usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev3.1_ep00  usbdev5.1_ep00  usbdev5.4_ep82
[11:13] <adnan_> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev3.1_ep81  usbdev5.1_ep81  usbdev5.4_ep83
[11:13] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, but that is what I've been doing
[11:13] <adnan_> usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev4.1_ep00  usbdev5.4_ep00
[11:13] <adnan_> usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev4.1_ep81  usbdev5.4_ep01
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> Any compiz users here?
[11:13] <nhmomof2> And it still doesn't work
[11:13] <MasterShrek> alcaponage, try sudo apt-get clean and then try to upgrade
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to get the screensaver plugin working
[11:13] <MasterShrek> #ubuntu-effects DigitalNinja
[11:13] <Pelo> alcaponage,  it can also be that it just isn't available currently,  are you sure bac kport and  multivers repos are enabled
[11:13] <Soskel> why do web pages look messed up in ubuntu?
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> MasterShrek
[11:13] <DigitalNinja> Thanks
[11:14] <adnan_> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev3.1_ep00  usbdev5.1_ep00  usbdev5.4_ep82
[11:14] <adnan_> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev3.1_ep81  usbdev5.1_ep81  usbdev5.4_ep83
[11:14] <adnan_> usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev4.1_ep00  usbdev5.4_ep00
[11:14] <adnan_> usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev4.1_ep81  usbdev5.4_ep01
[11:14] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, it has to work, theres something else wrong than just that then
[11:14] <adnan_> I don't understand what these mount points are
[11:14] <Roman|Linux> hey, i need help converting mdf/mds files into ISO files, i have tried mdf2iso but i cant get it to work. is there a burning program that can read mdf files?
[11:14] <Pelo> adnan_,  don't do that, ue tghe pastebin
[11:14] <MasterShrek> adnan_, where are they located?
[11:14] <nhmomof2> MasterShrek, ok-thanks for helping me!  I'll go back to the drawing board
[11:14] <Blackkatt> anyone know how disable this enjoying join and part shit in gaim :)
[11:14] <Beefheart> Anyone here play Anarchy online on Linux ?
[11:14] <MasterShrek> Roman|Linux, why doesnt mdf2iso work?
[11:14] <Blackkatt> pzsnr: oh a swe ^
[11:14] <adnan_> /dev/usbdev
[11:14] <_len> ok, another noob question, what's the difference beetween nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new?
[11:15] <Pelo> _len,   one is old and one is new
[11:15] <adnan_> MasterShrek /dev/usbdev
[11:15] <Blackkatt> _len one is newer then the other =)
[11:15] <_len> lol
[11:15] <MasterShrek> adnan_, those arent mount points, theyre just devices, and probably just placeholders or something, why do you ask?
[11:15] <generalsnus> Beefheart: i play AO on ubuntu
[11:15] <nhmomof2> Is there a channel for female Ubuntu users?
[11:15] <Beefheart> I am having problems executing install.sh for my intel i915 driver. anyone know what needs to be done ? say something about headers and DRI. Im new to this..
[11:15] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, #ubuntu
[11:15] <Blackkatt> gaah how to disable join and part in Gaim anyone PLZ :)
[11:15] <MasterShrek> =P
[11:15] <adnan_> MsterShrek I wanted to know
[11:15] <dx9s_work> nhmomof2, does it matter your gender if you use ubuntu or not?
[11:15] <Pelo> nhmomof2, not realy,  do you feel that this channel is being chauvinistic ?
[11:16] <nhmomof2> Gosh not at all
[11:16] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, is that for graphics?
[11:16] <nhmomof2> I love the Ubuntu Community
[11:16] <adnan_> MasterShrek how do I mount then my USB  stick
[11:16] <nhmomof2> I was just curious
[11:16] <n3tfury> heh
[11:16] <MasterShrek> adnan_, it should auto-mount
[11:16] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, yes
[11:16] <MasterShrek> adnan_, if it doesnt it will show up as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something
[11:16] <adnan_> MasterShrek I umounted it
[11:16] <nhmomof2> I belong to many online communities and this one is very unique
[11:16] <reverseblade> 85 C is a very high CPU temp for a laptop right ?
[11:16] <nhmomof2> LOL
[11:16] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, theres something in apt for that, 915resolution or something, try apt-get'ing it
[11:17] <adnan_> MasterShrek I was thinking that myself but it does not
[11:17] <Blackkatt> ooh just come of think of, can u mount my sony usb stick in linux and format it to work with vista x64 :P ?
[11:17] <Beefheart> generalsnus, have u managed to install the 17.3 patch ?
[11:17] <Pelo> nhmomof2,  yes we are very "special"
[11:17] <bullgard4> Is the command 'truss' availabele in Solaris only, or can I get it in Ubuntu also?
[11:17] <alcaponage> Pelo: How do I make my cube and it's background further away in the distance?
[11:17] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, could u please type the command for me =?
[11:17] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, it should work fine if you format it fat32
[11:17] <nhmomof2> Is there a way to make this easier to read and keep up with?  Like assigning a diff color to each member?
[11:17] <Pelo> alcaponage, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:17] <reverseblade> bullgard4, a command is a program
[11:17] <despereador> hi again
[11:17] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[11:17] <oly-> hi, i am using lives can it actually export video as ogg ?
[11:17] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, thanks
[11:17] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, what do you use for a client?
[11:17] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  cool, so i dont need that program that is already install on the stick?
[11:17] <_len> nvidia 7800 gtx uses the new drive or old?
[11:17] <reverseblade> 80 C is a very high CPU temp for a laptop right ?
[11:18] <oly-> i have loaded in my clip and edited it but want to keep ogg as the format
[11:18] <Pelo> nhmomof2, I think you can do this in  the xchat  settings  the ppl, in #xchat can tell you where
[11:18] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know of a good guide for installing Ubuntu on a Macbook?
[11:18] <despereador> the error is : Pci faild to allocate associate
[11:18] <despereador> how to solve it
[11:18] <Blackkatt> _len let me give u a SUPERB site
[11:18] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, no, i think thats just for syncing and such, youll do that by yourself i assume
[11:18] <nhmomof2> Can I access Xchat through Kopete?
[11:18] <Blackkatt> for installing nvidia drivers
[11:18] <despereador> I get this error after grub loading
[11:18] <Beefheart> thanks
[11:18] <Pelo> Megaqwerty,  do you have a specific issue ?
[11:18] <JEFFmasterFlex> nhmomof2:  use konversation in kde
[11:18] <Pelo> nhmomof2, sorry wrong client,  there is probably a #kopete  channel as well
[11:18] <Beefheart> generalsnus, have u managed to install the 17.3 patch ?
[11:18] <Blackkatt> _len http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2587126
[11:19] <Blackkatt> just read on the top
[11:19] <_len> Blackkatt: ok
[11:19] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: no, I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and figured I'd make sure I could actually install Ubuntu on a Macbook if I chose to go that route.
[11:19] <JEFFmasterFlex> MasterShrek:  i think konversation is superior rto xchat
[11:19] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, if you want to talk to someone specific just put their nick in the line, most people will do the same for you
[11:19] <Motyoj> I have a G4 Powerbook I was thinking of installing Ubuntu on but haven't yet...
[11:19] <Blackkatt> his programs totaly rocks...ive tryed installing nvidia for days then ive found that
[11:19] <MasterShrek> JEFFmasterFlex, ic, ill fire it up n check it out
[11:19] <nhmomof2> What is Konversation?  Another chat client?
[11:19] <MasterShrek> Motyoj, whats the hold up?
[11:19] <MasterShrek> nhmomof2, yes
[11:19] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek: okay am gonna try that cuz not it dosent work in x64
[11:19] <Motyoj> dunno...lazy I guess
[11:19] <generalsnus> Beefheart: havent tried yet..need to solve the grub error 21 first >P
[11:20] <_kazol> When I press Ctrl-F7 in Ubuntu, I get a GUI with a black screen and mouse.
[11:20] <Cocodude> Hello. I have a fun problem with getting Ubuntu to boot off my eSata port on the back of my motherboard. I simply drop straight into the grub shell and it seems as though grub can't read its own menu.lst file to present a nice menu to me. Is anyone able to help?
[11:20] <nhmomof2> The chat is moving pretty quickly and between breaking up my toddlers and trying to chat with two other people, well, my head is about to explode
[11:20] <Beefheart> generalsnus, there is a problem pathcing from 17.2-17.3
[11:20] <Cocodude> (running Feisty, using an Asus motherboard with a JMicron controller for the eSata)
[11:20] <JEFFmasterFlex> nhmomof2:  that's everyday around this time, late night is better
[11:20] <nimbo> He that is giddy thinks the world turns round.
[11:20] <nimbo> 		-- William Shakespeare, "The Taming of the Shrew"
[11:21] <Beefheart> Anyone know a fast way toget the newest display drivers for the intel i915 ?
[11:21] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know of a good guide for installing Ubuntu on a Macbook? I want to make sure I can install Ubuntu before shelling out the 1000 or so bucks for one.
[11:21] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  hmm how to format?
[11:21] <Busty> ok I need to remote controll a win box from a lin box what is the best server program to run on the win box
[11:22] <Megaqwerty> Busty: VNC
[11:22] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 or whatever device it is
[11:22] <MrStonedOne> cant u connect to the remote desktop
[11:22] <panosru> hi! i try to play a dvd but mplayer comes with error message says that missing libdvdcss but there is nothing like that in synaptic..... :(
[11:22] <Motyoj> Megaqwerty: If you're thinking of doing that, why not ask the people at Apple if there are issues in doing so?
[11:22] <Busty> Megaqwerty, ultravnc
[11:22] <MasterShrek> !dvd
[11:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:22] <MasterShrek> panosru, ^^^^
[11:22] <Megaqwerty> Busty: that's a good one
[11:22] <genii> Megaqwerty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[11:22] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  how to i know what name it is then?
[11:23] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, do ls /dev/sd*
[11:23] <Busty> Megaqwerty, and what can I use on ubuntu to hook to it
[11:23] <MrStonedOne> !dvd | panosru
[11:23] <ubotu> panosru: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:23] <Beefheart> Anyone know a fast way toget the newest display drivers for the intel i915 ?
[11:23] <panosru> thanks i will check them :D
[11:23] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, didnt that work?
[11:24] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, It might have. it did something, but im not sure if it got the newest drivers. U know a command to check current date on the drivers?
[11:24] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  witch is it /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1
[11:24] <Blackkatt> sdb right?
[11:24] <genii> Beefheart: Did you try running the restricted-manager by:   gksudo restricted-manager   ?
[11:24] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, not at all, im not running intel graphics, but it should be the newest, if not very close
[11:24] <Megaqwerty> Motyoj: good idea, I shall. thanks.
[11:24] <Megaqwerty> genii: will check it out
[11:24] <Megaqwerty> Busty: vncviewer
[11:24] <Megaqwerty> Busty: I think it's already installed on Ubuntu by default...
[11:25] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, i would guess /dev/sdb1
[11:25] <Beefheart> genii,  no i did'nt. ill try
[11:25] <Busty> Megaqwerty, you don't need to set a ssh server on the server pc to have encyption right
[11:25] <bascule> Beefheart: you having resolution problems?
[11:25] <Motyoj> The biggest issue on installing Ubuntu on Mac laptops has been the touchpad from what I've read
[11:25] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  guess hahaha =) dont wanna format my harddrive =)
[11:25] <Beefheart> genii, I have no restricted drivers
[11:25] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, im assuming you are using sata, and sda is your hard drive
[11:25] <Poundo> Still thrashing out here any takers? there is no gd.so in my /usr/lib/php5/20051025 where my other .so's are hence no gd listed in the phpInfo()
[11:25] <Megaqwerty> Busty: actually...I think you do.
[11:25] <Motyoj> but it can be tweaked to work...
[11:25] <Beefheart> bascule, no, but id like the newest drivers because i heard they give better fps
[11:26] <pavel> is there a phpbb alternative?
[11:26] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, since sdb only has one partition im positive its your flash drive, well, unless you have another sata drive connected
[11:26] <generalsnus> Beefheart: quick and dirty solution: copy the ao folder to a win comp..update and copy it back to linux comp :p
[11:26] <bascule> Beefheart: i think they are called Intel as opposed to i810, maybe you knew that
[11:26] <Beefheart> generalsnus, I know, but i cant find my vista PC on the network
[11:26] <genii> Beefheart: OK (for ATI and Nvidia cards this generally will bring latest driver in, Intel has mostly open-source so likely different)
[11:26] <Beefheart> bascule, what do you mean =
[11:26] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, is the vista pc set up for filesharing, they arent by default
[11:27] <Motyoj> Vista seems to be a train wreck from what I've heard...
[11:27] <nhmomof2> I have a desktop with a router for my hubbie's laptop.  Is there anyway to get his laptop to be able to print on the printer attached to my desktop (with Ubuntu?)
[11:27] <NIklas_E> anyone know how to transcode a video that have fps 24,9167 instead of 25 (which I want) perhaps useing mytharchive
[11:27] <bascule> Beefheart: well if you have set driver="i810" in xorg.conf try "Intel" instead
[11:27] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, I've tryed many times, didnt even find it when this PC had XP
[11:27] <MasterShrek> Beefheart, vista is a pile
[11:27] <generalsnus> loading stage 1.5..error 21
[11:27] <generalsnus>    i have winxp on sda1 ..and ubuntu on sdb3 .. how can i fix this grub error guys
[11:27] <Beefheart> bascule, are there a way to check the date on the current disp drivers?
[11:28] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  looks like i did it gonna try it, if it work u will be my god =)
[11:28] <Beefheart> MasterShrek, why do you think i installed linux. :) its hard with linux but fun
[11:28] <D4N`> you tell me
[11:28] <elivance> Hi everyone - could someone help me out? Ive just resized an NTFS partition using GNOME partition editor but its reporting the amount of free space wrong!
[11:28] <genii> Beefheart: If you feel brave you can always try this: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html
[11:28] <bascule> Beefheart: well thaey are part of the xorg version AFAIK, definitely i810 ships as part of xorg, haven't tried the Intel one yet
[11:28] <Beefheart> genii, was there, but everything is so darn complicated
[11:29] <Beefheart> bascule, how do I change the driver with xconf ?
[11:29] <bascule> when xconf asks, say Intel or the number relating to the Intel driver from the list
[11:29] <corphip> Very stupid question:  how do I display kernel information from the command line?  like what version I'm using?
[11:30] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  i so fu.. love you! now i finally have some use for that sony peace of shit
[11:30] <LjL> corphip: uname -r
[11:30] <LjL> !language
[11:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:30] <pavel> is there a forum app for ubuntu?
[11:30] <corphip> LjL, thanks
[11:30] <MasterShrek> =D
[11:30] <Busty> Megaqwerty, ultravnc has some kind of encryption right would this be shared with vncviewer
[11:30] <Beefheart> bascule, command to run xorg?
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> Busty: I honestly don't know. I've never tried doing it that way.
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> ...or at all
[11:31] <wabiD> where is the default splash image
[11:31] <bascule> Beefheart: sudo /etc/init.d/xsession start or sudo gdm
[11:31] <Megaqwerty> Busty: I usually just to Linux box to Linux box :-\ sorry
[11:31] <Beefheart> bascule, thanks
[11:31] <Beefheart> bascule, command not found
[11:31] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  okay whats next i can see ur bizzy so ill think of something hard for u to crack :P what about that fuse lets talk about that some day ;)
[11:31] <JEFFmasterFlex> Beefheart: startx
[11:32] <bascule> beefheart: sudo gdm?
[11:32] <MasterShrek> Blackkatt, look into it, id like to see it in action :)
[11:32] <Beefheart> bascule, GDM allready running
[11:32] <elivance> anyone know much about the gnome partition editor?
[11:32] <bascule> ah ha, restart X, different thing all together .. :)
[11:33] <bascule> Beefheart: ctrl+alt+bksp <-- kills it instantly
[11:33] <_len> if glxgear run it means my nvidia driver's is correctly installed?
[11:33] <Beefheart> bascule, I am not sure what you are asking me to do here? thought all i wanted was to edit somthing in a conf file or something
[11:33] <nnutter> Any devs know why #102818 seems to have been abandoned?
[11:33] <bascule> _len: not neccessarily, try glxinfo | grep render see if it says direct
[11:33] <JEFFmasterFlex> Beefheart: oooh....  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:33] <ephesius> anyone know why with the gutsy beta i cant connect to google and a couple other web sites
[11:34] <elivance> or does anyone know where i can go for help with gnome partition editor?
[11:34] <bascule> Beefheart: well change xorg.conf section to say Intel instead of i810
[11:34] <alcaponage> Pelo: How can I unlock a folder?
[11:34] <bascule> Beefheart: then restrt X
[11:34] <Megaqwerty> bascule: or...just glxinfo | grep direct
[11:34] <_len> bascule: said yes
[11:34] <alcaponage> Pelo: my "examples" folder is locked
[11:34] <Beefheart> kk ill try
[11:34] <bascule> _len: probably goot to go then ...
[11:34] <bascule> good
[11:34] <bram_> can someone tell me please how to get more than 2 desktops in the dektop switcher??,
[11:34] <alcaponage> How do I unlock a locked folder?
[11:34] <twilight_> Hello, I am runnign ubuntu on a laptop and i have no sound
[11:34] <alcaponage> Bram_ go to general and add desktops
[11:35] <Blackkatt> MasterShrek:  just boot up ur xbmc :p if u dont have that for ur home entertainment ur screed
[11:35] <bram_> ok, tnx
[11:35] <MasterShrek> oh, i do Blackkatt, have for a few years now
[11:35] <JEFFmasterFlex> alcaponage:  gksudo nautilus; then right click properties, permissions
[11:36] <slaine_> Hey guys, need a bit of help with a command-line install from the alternate CD. I've a PCMCIA eth device, the driver is loaded etc. but /etc/init.d/networking fails to bring up the device
[11:36] <alcaponage> JEFFmasterFlex: I don't see the locked file in root
[11:36] <alcaponage> JEFFmasterFlex: my 'examples' folder is in my name
[11:36] <elivance> is there a way to get terminal to scan my filesystem to figure out why the wrong size is being reported for my main partition?
[11:36] <slaine_> Strange thing is, it was detected and working as part of the install (i.e. it loaded and got a dhcp address)
[11:36] <slaine_> Any suggestions
[11:37] <arnath> i simply can't get my hdmi tv set up correctly in xorg.conf (not as primary screen, nor as secondary screen to a normal crt)
[11:37] <cmphark> hello
[11:37] <micahp> how do you turn off word wrap in evolution?
[11:37] <xyverz> does anybody know where the gnome menu files are kept?  I had to remove my home dir complete to clear out cruft, but now I want to bring my customized menus back
[11:37] <bram_> still no luck: i am running Gutsy Gibbon, but don't know where to add more desktops..(I have 2 now)
[11:37] <xyverz> I just can't seem to find them.
[11:37] <arnath> if i do an apt-get upgrade, does the beta of 7.10 install?
[11:37] <slaine_> I should point out that this is 7.10 install
[11:37] <slaine_> of the beta
[11:37] <xyverz> arnath: only if you've replaced feisty with gutsy in your sources.list
[11:38] <rhalff> anyone knows a good search engine ?
[11:38] <twilight_> Hello, I am runnign kubuntu on a emachine w4620 laptop and i have no sound
[11:38] <slaine_> lol
[11:38] <cmphark> QUESTION, is installing ubuntu server the best way to set up a home web server?
[11:38] <arnath> xyverz -> seeing as i can't get my screen right, and gutsy has this new thing for screens (right?)...should i do it?
[11:38] <bascule> cmphark: if you can config without GUI tools, sure
[11:38] <slaine_> rhaiff, I have googled, can't spot anything relating to this issue
[11:39] <bram_> Question: still no luck: i am running Gutsy Gibbon, but don't know where to add more desktops..(I have 2 now)
[11:39] <Megaqwerty> cmphark: I believe so
[11:39] <xyverz> arnath: what do you mean can't get your screen right?
[11:39] <cmphark> BASCULE, what would be the best GUI for a webserver
[11:39] <bascule> bram_: #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <rhalff> slaine_, hm yeah :)
[11:39] <bascule> cmphark: none
[11:39] <rhalff> altavista actually still exists, wow
[11:39] <Megaqwerty> cmphark: possibly webmin
[11:39] <sam__> hello
[11:39] <shk> is there any way to open the ubuntu applications menu by keyboard?
[11:39] <bram_> bascule: what do u mean?
[11:39] <arnath> xyverz: first i had my hdmi tv as a primary screen, but the max resolution would be 720x480, no matter how much i tinkered with dpkg xorg thingy, or how much i changed to xorg.conf, it wouldn't work
[11:40] <Motyoj> I used to use Altavisa all the time...
[11:40] <sam__> i have an Realtek HD Audio in my notebook but i don't have any sound, can some one help me with that ?
[11:40] <bascule> !gutsy | bram_
[11:40] <ubotu> bram_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:40] <arnath> xyverz: then i added a crt screen as primary and this one does work, the resolutions are correct, but my hdmi (which is now secondary) still has the same problems
[11:40] <ephesius> any ideas why i can't connect to certain websites such as google with gutsy
[11:40] <sam__> i have an Realtek HD Audio in my notebook but i don't have any sound, can some one help me with that ?
[11:40] <bram_> ok..., thanks.... i'll go there
[11:40] <generalsnus> how can i get permissions to edit my grub menu.list froma live cd?
[11:40] <MasterShrek> generalsnus: sudo su
[11:41] <cmphark> hmm, so no one knows of a good way to set up a webserver off a home machine
[11:41] <MasterShrek> cmphark: install apache
[11:41] <bascule> :)
[11:41] <cmphark> how do u whisper back
[11:41] <xyverz> arnath: ati or nvidia?
[11:41] <MasterShrek> cmphark: set your router up for ddns
[11:41] <arnath> xyverz: nvidia 8600gts
[11:41] <spinner_> Hi this is probly dumb question but how do i run a tar.gz file :)
[11:41] <arnath> xyverz it isnt supported yet by ubuntu, so i installed the official nvidia driver
[11:41] <MasterShrek> spinner_: you dont, you extract it
[11:41] <bascule> spinner_: you don't, you uncompress it
[11:42] <xyverz> arnath: have you tried running nvidia-settings?
[11:42] <cmphark> mastershrek can i chat with u?
[11:42] <arnath> xyverz: a mere kadzillion times :p
[11:42] <MasterShrek> cmphark: chat away
[11:42] <_len> Blackkatt: I feel that my ubuntu got slower after driver installation
[11:42] <cmphark> right on.
[11:42] <shk> sam_: go to the realtek site they have linux drivers
[11:42] <MasterShrek> cmphark: you need to have a registerd nick, or join #mastershrek we can chat there too
[11:42] <cmphark> oki
[11:42] <alcaponage> I just updated my ubuntu to .16generic and now it won't start correctly
[11:43] <cmphark> i'll join mastershrek
[11:43] <cmphark> how do u join
[11:43] <nickrud> sam, what kind of laptop do you have?
[11:43] <MasterShrek> cmphark: type this: /join #mastershrek
[11:43] <spinner_> Ive just installed Ubuntu linux first time user, where can i find some help for the basic commands to execute and  run files ?
[11:43] <xyverz> arnath: dunno.  I haven't actually worked with hdmi on a PC yet.  If Feisty is otherwise working for you, I'd stick with it for the time being.
[11:43] <MasterShrek> spinner_: google for ubuntuguide, it gives you alot of good info for a noobie :)
[11:43] <arnath> xyverz: i only installed it today
[11:43] <spinner_> tnx bro
[11:44] <MasterShrek> ubuntuguide.org i think it used to be
[11:44] <arnath> xyverz: and i really would like the big screen, cause the crt has other purposes
[11:44] <nickrud> sam, the realtek drivers are in the kernel already, they just sometimes need a little kick
[11:44] <bascule> spinner_: do you actually want tot learn the shell or just basic/everyday desktop usage?
[11:44] <Motyoj> online documentation is great for ubuntu
[11:44] <LjL> !cli > spinner_    (spinner_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:44] <SpiderPig> HELLO
[11:44] <deviantintegral> hi! can anyone tell me what mdadm command I would use to shrink a raid5 array? sudo mdadm /dev/md2 --grow --size=729647488 complains that there is "No space left on device", even though that's smaller than my current size
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> Why i can't run .wmv files.
[11:44] <vmlinuz`> is there anything i need to install so i can view .wmv files
[11:44] <SpiderPig> can someone see me? testing testing... one two three. one two three..
[11:44] <bascule> !codecs | vmlinuz`
[11:44] <ubotu> vmlinuz`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <LjL> !restricted > vmlinuz`    (vmlinuz`, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:44] <bascule> oops
[11:45] <SpiderPig> hmm not again
[11:45] <SpiderPig> :(
[11:45] <elivance> sorry to be repetitive but can anyone help with a problem im having with partitions?
[11:45] <bascule> SpiderPig: you are alive and learning patience ... :)
[11:45] <LjL> SpiderPig, we can see you. this is *not* a channel for doing tests, however.
[11:45] <SpiderPig> bascule oh you can see me
[11:45] <SpiderPig> :P
[11:45] <vmlinuz`> thanks LjL
[11:45] <Motyoj> we all can
[11:45] <alcaponage> How do I fix "NVIDIA failed to load the NVIDIA kernal module!
[11:45] <LjL> not only we can, but we'd also rather not
[11:45] <knoppix> bye
[11:45] <slaine_> I must be missing something
[11:45] <Motyoj> heh
[11:46] <jadams> alcaponage, download the nvidia installer and run it again
[11:46] <Mookie> afternoon
[11:46] <superkirbyartist> Alcaponage: sudo apt-get install ati
[11:46] <LjL> alcaponage: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[11:46] <jadams> my guess is you used that instead of the linux-restricted-modules ?
[11:46] <slaine_> dmesg is showing eth0 detected
[11:46] <generalsnus> if i have ubuntu on disk sdb, partition 3...   is this menu.list entry right:    root		(hd1,3)
[11:46] <alcaponage> jadams: how do i do that? it won't load
[11:46] <slaine_> The /etc/networks/interfaces has eth0 setup for dhcp
[11:46] <dug_> how do you enable desktop effects in gutsy, since the control panel is no longer there?
[11:46] <alcaponage> My ubuntu won't load to the desktop
[11:46] <LjL> superkirbyartist: ...?
[11:46] <superkirbyartist> Alcaponage: recovery mode...
[11:46] <LjL> !gutsy > dug_    (dug_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:46] <alcaponage> It crashes after the loading bar is done
[11:46] <slaine_> Yey /etc/init.d/networking fails to activate the device
[11:46] <superkirbyartist> Alcaponage: when it says "GRUB... Press Escape"... press escape.
[11:47] <dimas_> how do i switch from my main ubuntu the hardware to windows on VMWare (the camera and sound-speakers)?
[11:47] <superkirbyartist> Alcaponage: select "recovery mode" and type "startx"
[11:47] <slaine_> Has networking infrastructure changed much in latest releases ?
[11:47] <LjL> superkirbyartist: why would he want recovery mode?
[11:47] <Mookie> can someone help me figure out how to boot to my usb from floppy so i can install ubuntu?
[11:47] <LjL> !smartbootmanager > Mookie    (Mookie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:47] <superkirbyartist> LjL: If NVIDIA won't boot, he can't see anything on the screen.
[11:48] <superkirbyartist> LjL: He can install/remove NVIDIA stuff from recovery mode.
[11:48] <superkirbyartist> LjL, recovery mode linux = windows safe mode.
[11:48] <LjL> superkirbyartist: uhm, he can see a terminal and use it - just like he can from recovery mode. and if nvidia doesn't work in normal mode, i don't see how 'startx' would work in recovery mode
[11:48] <LjL> superkirbyartist: not really
[11:49] <bascule> superkirbyartist: recovery mode linux = windows recovery console +1000000
[11:49] <spinner_> bascule  basic/everyday desktop usage is my first goal
[11:49] <superkirbyartist> bascule, but it becomes "safe mode" when startx is run.
[11:49] <spinner_> tnx LjL
[11:49] <SpiderPig> i installed a bitchx update today that came automatically with ubuntu when i started it. is there someplace where i can see what this update actualy does?
[11:49] <bernier> when I log in ubuntu, my internet is often very slow until it fixes itself or I unplug, replug my modem anyone knows why?
[11:50] <genii> LjL: After making xorg changes he can telinit 2
[11:50] <alcaponage> I can't even go into recovery mode
[11:50] <LjL> alcaponage: what happens when you try?
[11:50] <alcaponage> Says" Fatal server error: non screens found
[11:50] <elivance> can anyone help me with a partitioning problem? I resized a 20gb partition with 500mb free to 60gb but its still only showing 500mb free space in GNOME partition editor - in windows XP the drive size is shown as 20gb and the free space as 500mb, however in disk manager in windows it shows the partition size as 60gb!
[11:50] <bascule> spinner_: well tarballs if clicked in the file manager should open up in an app much like winzip asking you where to extract to
[11:50] <dimas_> why the usb tool from VMWare doesnt find the speaker and camera from my main distro Ubuntu?
[11:50] <LjL> alcaponage: you can log into the terminal though, can't you?
[11:50] <dakira> hey.. how can i tell ubuntu not to shut down immediately when it thinks the laptop battery is empty?
[11:50] <alcaponage> no
[11:50] <romano> Witam! Nasi s wszdzie a tutaj nie?
[11:50] <superkirbyartist> bascule, but it becomes "safe mode" when startx is run.
[11:50] <bascule> superkirbyartist: startx from recovery still isn't safe mode
[11:50] <superkirbyartist> !wines
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wines - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <superkirbyartist> !wine
[11:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:51] <alcaponage> it says"root@me:"#
[11:51] <superkirbyartist> !google
[11:51] <StalkerOfRisa`> [Google Search] : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=&btng=google+search&meta=
[11:51] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[11:51] <superkirbyartist> !google
[11:51] <StalkerOfRisa`> [Google Search] : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=&btng=google+search&meta=
[11:51] <LjL> alcaponage: yes, that's a terminal man.
[11:51] <LjL> alcaponage: type  depmod -a 
[11:51] <superkirbyartist> STOP IT STALKER
[11:51] <SpiderPig> why would anyone install linux use wine?
[11:51] <SpiderPig> makes no sense
[11:51] <dakira> dimas_: you might get luckier with virtualbox!
[11:51] <wabiD> hmm microsoft is "open sourcing" .net
[11:51] <alcaponage> nothing happens
[11:51] <alcaponage> do i include the <<>>?
[11:52] <dimas_> dakira what is virtualbox?
[11:52] <LjL> alcaponage: no. nothing is supposed to happen. try  startx  now.
[11:52] <dakira> dimas_, an opensource vmware competitor
[11:52] <vmlinuz`> installed ogg vorbis & ogg theora, still can't view .wmv ;/
[11:52] <dakira> dimas_: which handles usb alot better
[11:52] <_Lucretia_> can somebody tell me how to get an iso-8599-1 locale that I can use temporarily to update an svn tree for a specific project which doesn't support utf8? thanks
[11:52] <LjL> vmlinuz`: ...
[11:52] <alcaponage> "fatal server error"
[11:52] <alcaponage> Fatal IO error 104
[11:53] <dimas_> shakira thank you i may try that
[11:53] <LjL> vmlinuz`: perhaps that's because "WMV" files are "Windows Media Video" files, and not Ogg Vorbis or Theora?
[11:53] <whiskeytango> where can i find and download a working tahoma font for ubuntu?
[11:53] <kitche> wabiD: no they are open sourceing silverlight but  that's more for -offtopic
[11:53] <LjL> !w32codecs > vmlinuz`    (vmlinuz`, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:53] <dimas_> dakira may i call you shakira?
[11:53] <LjL> alcaponage: type  apt-get install pastebinit 
[11:53] <wabiD> http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/10/03/1626209.shtml
[11:53] <bascule> :)
[11:53] <SpiderPig> wabid just forget about microsoft this is ubuntu and we all know ms sucks
[11:53] <wabiD> that is silverlight?
[11:53] <spinner_> bascule: yes i got that rather quick. I have downloaded the compiz -0.60 desktop
[11:54] <superkirbyartist> LjL: sudo apt-get remove apt
[11:54] <spinner_> now i want to run it
[11:54] <wabiD> yea but this could help mono i guess
[11:54] <bascule> spinner_: don't mess with that stuff when you are new, it will put you off for a long time, be patient and wait for the update
[11:54] <alcaponage> Ljl: it said it's connecting
[11:54] <LjL> alcaponage: then, when it's finished installing, type  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.com  and give me the URL that results
[11:54] <spinner_> I just need to find out how i can run applications and other simple stuff i linux
[11:54] <whiskeytango> where can i find and download a working tahoma font for ubuntu?
[11:54] <SpiderPig> wabid nothing ms does will help ubuntu or linux. its a threat to them
[11:54] <LjL> superkirbyartist: don't give such dangerous commands in the channel please
[11:54] <generalsnus> loading stage 1.5..error 21
[11:54] <generalsnus>     i have winxp on sda1 ..and ubuntu on sdb3 .. how can i fix this grub error guys
[11:54] <LjL> !fonts > whiskeytango    (whiskeytango, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:55] <superkirbyartist> LjL, sorry.
[11:55] <superkirbyartist> Don't try this at home, kids.
[11:55] <alcaponage> Ljl: it's at 0 percent, i don't think i'm connected to the internet
[11:55] <bascule> spinner_: they are located in the menus or launched from the shell by typing their name
[11:55] <whiskeytango> thank you :)
[11:55] <LjL> alcaponage: that's not good... ok, close it using Ctrl+C
[11:55] <dakira> dimas_: nope ;-)
[11:56] <dakira> does anyone know where to find the acpi config files? i.e. the file that contains instructions what happens if the battery is empty?
[11:56] <alcaponage> LjL: what do I do now
[11:56] <Enigma_DC> hi
[11:56] <Enigma_DC> ciao
[11:56] <bascule> dakira: power manager applet allows you to set that stuff
[11:56] <elivance> can anyone help me with a partitioning problem? I resized a 20gb partition with 500mb free to 60gb but its still only showing 500mb free space in GNOME partition editor - in windows XP the drive size is shown as 20gb and the free space as 500mb, however in disk manager in windows it shows the partition size as 60gb!
[11:57] <bascule> elivance: perhaps you have to reformat
[11:57] <LjL> alcaponage: type  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf . search for "nvidia" (you can use Ctrl+W to search). when you find a line that says   Driver "nvidia", change that into   Driver "vesa". then Ctrl+X to save and exit.
[11:57] <LjL> alcaponage: that way, at least, you should be able to reboot into GNOME, hopefully with working internet
[11:57] <_Lucretia_> $ sudo locale-gen en_GB.ISO-8599-1
[11:57] <_Lucretia_> Error: 'en_GB.ISO-8599-1' is not a supported language or locale
[11:57] <LjL> alcaponage: then we can better check what's wrong with the nvidia driver
[11:58] <elivance> bascule: Hi, thanks for the reply :p is there no way to edit the partition or check its integrity?
[11:58] <superkirbyartist> Bye kids, I'm getting out of here.
[11:58] <xyverz> found what I was looking for.  my old menu items, created with the menu editor, are located in $oldhome$/.local/share/applications as [menuname] .desktop
[11:58] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! What can I use in order to generate a small database application in ubuntu? thank you!
[11:58] <xyverz> excellent!
[11:58] <alcaponage> LJL: said nvidia not found
[11:58] <wabiD> if i have vista on partition1 and ubuntu on partition3 can i boot ubuntu from vmware from within vista?
[11:58] <ASTX813> Does anyone know a way to get a USB stick to dual boot DOS and Linux (trying DamnSmallLinux at the moment, but failing)
[11:59] <bascule> elivance: well in linux you can sudo cfdisk /dev/<drive> and see what it thinks
[11:59] <macsim> any fix for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/145782 ?
[11:59] <kitche> paolob-parroquia: umm depends what you want to make the database in you could use mysql by itself or postgresql but it might be easier to make a full program in C++ or another language
[11:59] <LjL> alcaponage: are you sure? if it's saying the *nvidia* module can't be loaded, it must mean that your X is trying to load it...
[11:59] <elivance> bascule: will do - thanks
[11:59] <wabiD> ASTX813, can you get it to just boot linux?
[11:59] <LjL> alcaponage: you're on Feisty, aren't you?
[11:59] <bascule> elivance: there is alo an app known as testdisk that can catch and ediot some errors
[11:59] <cmphark> ANYONE have experince setting up a webserver off a home machine with ubuntu server addition
[11:59] <alcaponage> yes
[11:59] <bascule>  /ediot/edit
[12:00] <spinner_> so is there a cool mp3 player i can download and get to run first
[12:00] <yotamMedini> I am about to install for a newbie friend Gutsy-Beta. How easy will it for him to upgrade to gutsy-official ?
[12:00] <bascule> spinner_: well there are lots and it depends how you define cool
[12:00] <wabiD> yotamMedini, it should just pop up in the system tray
[12:00] <wabiD> and he presses update
[12:00] <ASTX813> wabiD Yeah, it boots linux fine off the USB.  I tried adding an entry to syslinux.cfg that points to a backup of the DOS MBR and nothing happens when I try that.
[12:00] <alcaponage> LJL i see the driver "nvidia
[12:00] <paolob-parroquia> kitche, no, the application is really small, I don't think I need to use C, and anyway I don't know it quite well. Is there anything simpler, for example, is it possible to generate such an app in python?
[12:00] <LjL> alcaponage: then search for Driver - you'll find many lines that say "Driver", but you want one that is in 'Section "Device"' and has an "Identifier" before it, and somehow mentions video (for example, says "nv" or "vesa")
[12:00] <bascule> spinner_: some people thing cool is "exactly the same as that windows app I like"
[12:00] <LjL> alcaponage: err, yes. that's what i wanted you to find.
[12:01] <kitche> paolob-parroquia: yeah sure
[12:01] <LjL> alcaponage: nevermind what i just said then.
[12:01] <wabiD> are you booting dos off a separate partition
[12:01] <yotamMedini> thx wabiD. will it also upgrade the /etc/apt/source.list ?
[12:01] <paolob-parroquia> kitche, where should I begin?
[12:01] <LjL> alcaponage: change it into Driver "vesa"
[12:01] <spinner_> well i just need to learn some basic to execute files and so on and improve my mad skilz;P
[12:01] <wabiD> yea i think it does periodically
[12:01] <alcaponage> LJL i did
[12:01] <LjL> alcaponage: ok, Ctrl+X to save and exit then
[12:01] <alcaponage> k
[12:01] <Downix> Hey-lo
[12:01] <LjL> alcaponage: then reboot and let me know
[12:01] <alcaponage> k
[12:02] <alcaponage> i'm rebooting
[12:02] <Downix> I'm trying to get ATI's graphics to work with Ubuntu with poor results
[12:02] <bascule> spinner_: well get used to the system over all, read the migrating to linux from windows tutes that are all over the place, leave the mad-skilz thing for time to teach you
[12:02] <elivance> bascule: stupid question but how do i tell cfdisk to scan my C: drive - im a bit new to linux :p
[12:02] <alcaponage> LJL, i can load it now
[12:02] <LjL> alcaponage: i'm not sure i've asked you already - how did you install the nvidia driver?
[12:02] <bascule> elivance: cfdisk /dev/sda or /dev/hda 1st one for sata drives second for IDE
[12:02] <alcaponage> Ljl: yes, i am using compiz fusion
[12:02] <Downix> any way to check to see if agpgart is set up properly?
[12:03] <LjL> alcaponage: i asked *how* did you install it
[12:03] <spinner_> yes that was what i was thinking to the ;P was me being sarcastic :)
[12:03] <alcaponage> Ljl; I updated the files and it wouldn't start
[12:03] <elivance> bascule: ahhh thanks
[12:03] <alcaponage> sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[12:03] <LjL> alcaponage: what did you *do* to install the nvidia driver?
[12:03] <erlogan> I have a command-line-only install that I would like to configure to automount CDs and USB drives, since it doesn't do this by default.  What's the best way to go about it?
[12:03] <alcaponage> i typed in sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 in the terminal
[12:03] <dakira> bascule: yeah.. but I only get console access because acpi shuts my latop down since it thinks the battery is on 0%
[12:03] <alcaponage> i also used a program
[12:04] <LjL> alcaponage: before typing that.