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| === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | Gutsy Beta (UNSTABLE): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/gutsy/beta/ | ||
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| Mark7 | Hey TheSheep! | 01:13 |
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| Mark7 | Lo Ubotu | 01:14 |
| Mark7 | How are you both? | 01:14 |
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| Mark7 | I'm trying to figure out how to change my plugins in Epiphany | 01:18 |
| Mark7 | There are some things you just don't need mplayer for | 01:19 |
| Mark7 | RA and MP3s, for example | 01:22 |
| Mark7 | I have audacious installed, I was thinking of using that for streaming audio playback. | 01:26 |
| Mark7 | The problem is I have no idea how to edit the plugins configuration file | 01:28 |
| Mark7 | Or even if I can do it without breaking something | 01:28 |
| Mark7 | You guys don't mind me hogging bandwidth here, right? | 01:29 |
| Mark7 | Cool | 01:29 |
| Mark7 | So, hands up who's a bot :-) | 01:30 |
| Mark7 | Or, even better, if you're a bot don't say anything | 01:30 |
| Mark7 | :-D | 01:31 |
| Mark7 | :-( | 01:36 |
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| paulhan | Hi, I'm installing from an iso image and everything is fine until I get to /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. I then get initramfs, but I can't seem to find anything to tell me where to take it from there | 02:22 |
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| DaBeowulf | Please help I'm trying to get the nvidia-glx-new running again but when X should start it tells me: failed to load module "wfb" and that the kernel is of version 7184 (nvidia-glx which it installed when I tried to activate nvidia-glx-new via the restricted drivers tool) But I deleted that completely and reinstalled glx-new and used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to activate it... | 02:27 |
| moforilla_ | I recently installed the ntfs-3 package to get access to my windows files, after running some scripts on a link given to mount the drive I was still unable to read or write to it. | 02:28 |
| moforilla_ | After coming back to xubuntu I find the drive mounted, with read only permissions | 02:29 |
| moforilla_ | How can I got about making ti read and write? | 02:29 |
| moforilla_ | it* | 02:31 |
| qiuhou | @moforilla: is the drive listed in your /etc/fstab file? | 02:31 |
| moforilla_ | yes | 02:33 |
| moforilla_ | qiuhou: #Added by diskmounter utility | 02:33 |
| moforilla_ | /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 | 02:33 |
| Pumpernickel | paulhan: Feisty livecd? | 02:33 |
| paulhan | Sorry, yes, that's the one. Burned it too iso and it seemed alright | 02:34 |
| qiuhou | sorry, gotta go for an hour or so | 02:36 |
| moforilla_ | qiuhou: Which of these settings refer to read and writing? | 02:36 |
| Pumpernickel | Try the alternate cd or a Gutsy cd. Both should work; the error you're encountering doesn't have a reliable workaround (bug 96084). | 02:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 96084 in linux-source-2.6.20 "boot - /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96084 | 02:36 |
| moforilla_ | qiuhou: Im guessing the ro | 02:36 |
| Pumpernickel | !ntfs-3g | 02:38 |
| ubotu | ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions | 02:38 |
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| paulhan | pumpernickel: Thanks so far. I tried a trick I saw of using a floppy disk and it loaded straight through. Am now at a login screen, but it won't let me continue until I type in a password which I don't have. I've tried root | 02:45 |
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| moforilla | Im using this script to mounta disk | 03:19 |
| moforilla | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions | 03:19 |
| moforilla | I was linked to me by someone last time I was in the channel | 03:19 |
| moforilla | For some reason the script mounts the disk as read only? | 03:20 |
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| moforilla | Has this got anything to do with answering no to the use of the experimental FUSE module? | 03:20 |
| darrend | is there documentation anywhere regarding if-up.d / if-down.d scripts? Specifically what variables are made available to them? | 03:21 |
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| DaBeowulf | dammit I'm short of reinstalling the OS.. | 03:24 |
| DaBeowulf | Why does it still say the nvidia kernel module is 7184 when I installed nvidia-glx-new? | 03:24 |
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| darrend | DaBeowulf: yeah, bit quieter here | 03:33 |
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| xjonex | msg Nickserv puppu | 03:38 |
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| moforilla | Can I change my X windows manager? | 03:45 |
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| WippoZippo | hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem. I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :) | 03:55 |
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| Mark7 | Please, someone, talk to me | 04:02 |
| Mark7 | I can't do this on my own :-( | 04:02 |
| vinze | Do what? | 04:02 |
| Mark7 | Change the plug ins in Mozilla | 04:03 |
| vinze | Like? | 04:03 |
| Mark7 | I don't want Mplayer to handle audio files | 04:03 |
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| vinze | You mean when they are open in the browser? | 04:03 |
| Mark7 | Yes | 04:04 |
| DaBeowulf | Okay how come after every reboot I've got to 'sudo modprobe nvidia' to get X starting again? | 04:04 |
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| DaBeowulf | Otherwise it says nvidia kernel module is 7184 while the module is 9755 and refuses to start X | 04:04 |
| DaBeowulf | And why is there no etc/modules which was in the suggestion from #ubuntu to fix this? | 04:05 |
| Mark7 | And I especially don't want it to hog the browser | 04:05 |
| vinze | Mark7, can't you just delete the package mozilla-mplayer? | 04:05 |
| Mark7 | I did | 04:05 |
| vinze | Then how can it still be used? | 04:06 |
| vinze | Is it listed in about:plugins? | 04:06 |
| DaBeowulf | Anyone? | 04:06 |
| Mark7 | But that just means that I can't view embedded or streaming video content | 04:06 |
| vinze | Mark7, you mean that Firefox *opens* audio files with MPlayer by default, or that it plays them *in the browser window*? | 04:06 |
| Mark7 | The mplayre plugin is still in the Mozilla plugins folder, so whenever I click on an audio link it goes off to look for that | 04:07 |
| Mark7 | Yes, except replace Firefox with Epiphany | 04:07 |
| Mark7 | I want the audio to open in a stand alone app | 04:07 |
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| neozen | hey there all | 04:08 |
| neozen | have questions regarding drag n drop in xubuntu (xfce) ... where might I start looking for information | 04:08 |
| neozen | ? | 04:08 |
| vinze | neozen, the Xfce wiki? | 04:08 |
| Mark7 | How come you can only get plug ins for mplayer and totem, anyway? | 04:10 |
| vinze | I guess those are the only ones available | 04:10 |
| Mark7 | Well, there's xine as well | 04:11 |
| vinze | Mark7, I think I've found the answer | 04:11 |
| Mark7 | Oh? | 04:11 |
| vinze | In Edit->Preferences, Content tab | 04:11 |
| vinze | There you click on "Manage" under "File Types" | 04:12 |
| Mark7 | IS this for Forefox? | 04:12 |
| vinze | O damn | 04:12 |
| vinze | I mean not so good | 04:12 |
| vinze | Sorry | 04:12 |
| Mark7 | What's wrong? | 04:12 |
| vinze | You use Epiphany of course :s | 04:12 |
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| Mark7 | Yeah | 04:13 |
| Mark7 | But Epiphany uses the Mozilla plugins | 04:13 |
| vinze | Yeah true | 04:13 |
| vinze | But it uses another folder for preferences | 04:13 |
| vinze | Perhaps you could try and see what is changed if you chance it in Firefox, and try changing the same in the ~/.gnome2/epiphany folder | 04:14 |
| Mark7 | How do I access that folder? | 04:14 |
| Mark7 | Remember, I need to be root | 04:14 |
| vinze | Why? | 04:15 |
| Mark7 | Because I want to change the behaviour of the plugins | 04:16 |
| vinze | I though you wanted to change the behaviour of the browser (i.e. what content should be handled by what) | 04:16 |
| neozen | vinze: O.o wasn't exactly in the wiki .... but found this: http://xfc.xfce.org/docs/howto/html/draganddrop.html | 04:17 |
| Mark7 | Yeah, that's what I meant | 04:17 |
| vinze | Then I don't think you need to be root | 04:17 |
| Mark7 | But I can't find any other way to do it | 04:17 |
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| Mark7 | There's no such option under Epiphany's preferences | 04:17 |
| Mark7 | Believe me, I've looked | 04:18 |
| vinze | But I'm trying to find out where Firefox saves the preferences regarding file handling | 04:19 |
| vinze | Because Epiphany might use the same | 04:19 |
| Mark7 | Okay | 04:19 |
| Mark7 | ~/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, maybe? | 04:20 |
| vinze | No, it's user-specific | 04:21 |
| Mark7 | Right | 04:21 |
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| DaBeowulf | Does not work. Maybe I should have said that I modprobe to remove the module all the time? | 04:22 |
| Mark7 | Sorry to hear that DaBeowulf | 04:23 |
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| TheSheep | Mark7: about:config | 04:23 |
| TheSheep | Mark7: in the address bar | 04:24 |
| Mark7 | Done that | 04:24 |
| Mark7 | Now what? | 04:24 |
| TheSheep | Mark7: there hsould be a number of entries for your formats | 04:24 |
| Mark7 | There are LOTS of entries | 04:25 |
| TheSheep | Mark7: best do a search for it | 04:25 |
| vinze | TheSheep, I tried already, couldn't find anything :( | 04:25 |
| Mark7 | Search for audio? | 04:25 |
| === vinze is looking at ~/.mozilla/pluginreg.dat but can't find a similar file for Epiphany | ||
| Mark7 | Maybe I'd have more joy with iceape | 04:27 |
| === vinze gives up :( | ||
| Mark7 | Is someone PMing me? | 04:29 |
| Mark7 | The Systray icon just flashed | 04:30 |
| Mark7 | Does this look like the right thing? plugin.default_plugin_disabled | 04:31 |
| vinze | Found that too, but I don't think it'll help | 04:31 |
| vinze | Or perhaps you'd disable *all* plugins with it | 04:31 |
| Mark7 | Yeah :-( | 04:32 |
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| Mark7 | I just changed plugin.override_internal_types to true | 04:34 |
| vinze | And? | 04:34 |
| Mark7 | Hang on | 04:35 |
| Mark7 | I'm testing | 04:35 |
| Mark7 | Hmm. I suspect a site FU may be the reason | 04:35 |
| Mark7 | Someone didn't do their html properly | 04:37 |
| vinze | Ooooo... | 04:37 |
| TheSheep | Mark7: there is a help on mozilla.org | 04:37 |
| Mark7 | Okay | 04:37 |
| Mark7 | Let me just PM the site owner | 04:37 |
| Mark7 | Done | 04:38 |
| Mark7 | I'm at the Mozilla site. Where next? | 04:41 |
| Mark7 | How do you write a plugin? | 04:50 |
| maxamillion | Mark7: using the mozilla API | 04:54 |
| maxamillion | i gotta run | 04:54 |
| Mark7 | URL me to the Mizilla API | 04:54 |
| vinze | Mark7, a plugin or extension? | 04:55 |
| vinze | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/embedding/PublicAPIs.html | 04:55 |
| Mark7 | A plugin | 04:55 |
| Mark7 | I want to create a plugin that'll open the media player of MY choice | 04:56 |
| vinze | I have no idea, but the Mozilla API I googled to be the above URL | 04:56 |
| Mark7 | Okay | 05:00 |
| Mark7 | I need to read one of the already installed plugins so I can get some idea of what's involved | 05:00 |
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| hyper__ch | hiho folks | 06:45 |
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| === hyper__ch needs suggestions for Jabber clients | ||
| TheSheep | hyper__ch: what are yur needs? | 06:58 |
| hyper__ch | TheSheep: never tried any... as my ICQ got hijacked yesterday (1128681) I'm saying good-bye to it and lean towards open-protocols now ;) | 06:59 |
| TheSheep | hyper__ch: I use gajim, it's written in python and pretty nice and simple | 06:59 |
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| hyper__ch | TheSheep: what are the servers for in Gaijm? | 07:13 |
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| maxamillion | hyper__ch: gaijim is just a jabber server ... it will connect to any jabber server you have an account on | 07:18 |
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| === hyper__ch needs a primer in Jabber ;) | ||
| maxamillion | hyper__ch: ah ... hmmm | 07:18 |
| hyper__ch | how does it work then? | 07:18 |
| hyper__ch | TheSheep meant gajim is nice and simple | 07:19 |
| maxamillion | hyper__ch: http://trac.gajim.org/wiki/WikiStart#help_quickstart_guides | 07:19 |
| hyper__ch | the creation of an account keeps failing :( | 07:27 |
| maxamillion | hyper__ch: i sorry... i just use google talk because i have gmail :) | 07:28 |
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| Desolato1 | hello | 07:43 |
| hyper__ch | hiho Desolato1 | 07:43 |
| Desolato1 | I've got a question about installing, what shoudl I make the swap, primary or logical? | 07:43 |
| Desolato1 | *should | 07:44 |
| TheSheep | doens't matter | 07:45 |
| TheSheep | doesn't | 07:45 |
| Desolato1 | I've read that there's a limit of 4 primary partitions, I guess it's not a problem for me | 07:46 |
| hyper__ch | Desolato1: that's an ancient limit which you can circumvent with extended partitions | 07:46 |
| Desolato1 | oh, ok. btw, is ntfs-3g avaialbe for xubuntu? | 07:47 |
| zoredache_ | or lvm, or many other tricks | 07:47 |
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| zoredache | Desolato1: yes the package you want to install is 'ntfs-3g' | 07:48 |
| hyper__ch | Desolato1: it is, but why do you want that? | 07:48 |
| Desolato1 | ok, thanks | 07:48 |
| Desolato1 | I'll carry on installing | 07:48 |
| Desolato1 | see ya | 07:49 |
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| jarnos | Hi. I get some kind of errors during startup. (Some llines are shown in console, but graphical login screen is displayed eventually.) How to get rid of the errors? | 07:58 |
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| hyper__ch | jarnos: there's many ways, but first it would be good to actually know what error messages you get | 08:24 |
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| user1 | hi | 08:29 |
| hyper__ch | hiya user1 | 08:30 |
| user1 | anyone know hows i get mailto:n=user3@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com to just show my ip not my isp? | 08:30 |
| hyper__ch | user1: if you could elaborate a bit more... what you just said does not give much clues of what you want | 08:33 |
| user1 | n=user3@24.107.235.119 | 08:34 |
| user1 | how i gey my host like that? | 08:34 |
| user1 | eggdrop does it somehow | 08:34 |
| user1 | anyone? | 08:45 |
| user1 | \/join #bind | 08:46 |
| user1 | srry | 08:46 |
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| maxamillion | user1: eggdrop is a bot, bots other than ubotu are not allowed in official ubuntu and ubuntu derived channels | 08:50 |
| user1 | maxamillion its on a another net | 08:50 |
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| maxamillion | user1: oh ok :) | 08:50 |
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| siimo | hi, 1 question, why is xubuntu live cd so heavyweight and slow to load | 08:55 |
| maxamillion | siimo: because it runs entirely in your system ram | 08:56 |
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| siimo | maybe they should cut down some programmes? >< | 08:57 |
| hyper__ch | siimo: you cuold get more ram ;) | 08:58 |
| siimo | hyper__ch: i already have my motherbord maxed out | 08:58 |
| hyper__ch | siimo: why do you run it in ram? | 08:58 |
| siimo | i usually use it when the comp is in trouble and wont boot | 08:59 |
| jax | I think the idea is that it is non-modifying to the system. | 08:59 |
| hyper__ch | you could load a smaller system than xubuntu | 09:00 |
| siimo | its pretty amazing that i can run slax live cd and it boots 1/3 time as xubuntu and its full KDE system it also runs faster | 09:00 |
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| siimo | i thought xfce should be faster | 09:01 |
| hyper__ch | xubuntu is faster than kubuntu ;) | 09:01 |
| siimo | *buntu live cds are very slow | 09:01 |
| hyper__ch | siimo: so? | 09:02 |
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| siimo | hyper__ch: so it shouldn't be so slow | 09:07 |
| hyper_ch | the ubuntu live cds are not made for booting quickly but for showing what it will be like | 09:09 |
| jax | I recently installed xubuntu on /dev/hdb - which I had added from old box. I used 40 pin IDE cable instead of 80 pin. When I get newer cable, are there any settings that I will need to change from what the installer gave. | 09:12 |
| jarnos | hyper__ch, there are some messages about firmware microcodes or something during boot, but those text come and go so quickly I cannot follow. | 09:12 |
| siimo | jax: no | 09:13 |
| hyper_ch | jarnos: so how do you think we can help? | 09:14 |
| siimo | hyper__ch: well it also runs pretty slow... so showing what its like is still not very nice | 09:15 |
| hyper_ch | siimo: it shows what it is like | 09:16 |
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| jarnos | hyper_ch, is there some log file where you can see the messages? | 09:23 |
| hyper_ch | jarnos: syslog | 09:23 |
| TheSheep | jarnos: in the /var/log/ directory | 09:24 |
| TheSheep | jarnos: you can also type 'dmesg | less' | 09:25 |
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| thehollowwithin | how do i burn .daa files it is a iso | 09:33 |
| jarnos | There are several lines like this at the end of output of dmes: "bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed." I am not sure if this is why I see console during startup. | 09:34 |
| thehollowwithin | ? | 09:37 |
| hyper_ch | jarnos: did you replace any hardware? did you install a new kernel? | 09:38 |
| thehollowwithin | how do i burn .daa files it is a iso | 09:40 |
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| Soskel | hi | 09:54 |
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| Soskel | how can I add my own program to the top bar? | 09:55 |
| hyper_ch | Soskel: right-clicke, add-new item, launcher | 09:56 |
| Soskel | thanks | 09:56 |
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| hyper_ch | Soskel: or add Quicklauncher where you can add multiple launchers (small icons) | 09:58 |
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| jarnos | hyper_ch, well I have installed all updates. I have also used some third party repositories, and disabled some. Some time ago I started to get message after login from Avahi that complained about my local network domain. I also installed (and later uninstalled) "Spyder2PRO 2.3.5 - Works with Windows Vista" by wine. | 10:01 |
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| DaveMorris | hi guys, I'm working on mythbuntu which has recently switched to using xfce. I was wondering if anyone could help me with bug 148301 It's seem that a different locale changes the placement of buttons instead of just the names. Is this corect or have I put the wrong settings in for xfce? | 10:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148301 in mythbuntu "Missing shutdown button in xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148301 | 10:06 |
| allen | Can I install an epson scanner/printer on xubuntu? | 10:06 |
| hyper_ch | bug 148301 | 10:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148301 in mythbuntu "Missing shutdown button in xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148301 | 10:07 |
| hyper_ch | cool | 10:07 |
| mick_ | hello | 10:09 |
| DaveMorris | hi | 10:09 |
| mick_ | How can I do to have a icon in the bar for check my battery | 10:09 |
| mick_ | I have a laptop | 10:10 |
| DaveMorris | allen: if you can install it on ubuntu then it'll work with xubuntu since it uses the same under the hood programs, it just has a different graphical user interface on it | 10:10 |
| DaveMorris | mick_: I'll have a look for you | 10:10 |
| mick_ | DaveMorris, oh thx verry much | 10:10 |
| hyper_ch | mick, right-click the bar, add new item, batter monitor | 10:11 |
| mick_ | oh ?! | 10:11 |
| mick_ | I try | 10:11 |
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| mick_ | hyper_ch, it is ok | 10:12 |
| mick_ | hyper_ch, thank you | 10:13 |
| hyper_ch | mick_: yw | 10:13 |
| mick_ | :) | 10:13 |
| mick_ | hyper_ch, why the network icon is not in the same frame | 10:14 |
| hyper_ch | mick_: I dunno what you mean | 10:14 |
| mick_ | I explain | 10:14 |
| mick_ | in the top bar, I have the network ico side by side the time | 10:15 |
| mick_ | oh, wait I try a screenshot | 10:15 |
| mick_ | lol, How can I take a screenshot | 10:17 |
| mick_ | the touchpad dont work at all | 10:17 |
| hyper_ch | there's no screenshot functionality by default in xubuntu | 10:17 |
| mick_ | oky | 10:18 |
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| mick_ | I try by xterm | 10:18 |
| allen | How do I get a ppd file for my printer? | 10:19 |
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| Soskel | hi | 10:55 |
| Soskel | were is my fonts folder? | 10:55 |
| siimo | i use ~/.fonts/ | 10:58 |
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| nikolam | 11:28 | |
| nikolam | Hi | 11:28 |
| nikolam | How to know what hardware is supported | 11:28 |
| nikolam | E.g. there must be some kind of database for those thing etc. | 11:29 |
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| Pumpernickel | nikolam: There's no single complete db. If you're concerned about a specific part, though, it's pretty easy to find out how well supported it is. | 11:44 |
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| hyper_ch | nikolam: or just try out the desktop/live cd to see what natively works on your computer | 12:05 |
| nikolam | I think that I am fullz supported. Just motherboard temperature measurments are weird. | 12:06 |
| nikolam | But I think about redirectin someone who is buzing something | 12:06 |
| nikolam | Where to look at etc. | 12:06 |
| nikolam | I personally can handle it. | 12:06 |
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| user1 | anyone know if i can stream tv to others via the site on my pc? | 12:10 |
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| cjae | anyone here use tsclient | 12:23 |
| siimo | have ppl started doing upgrades to Gutsy via apt | 12:26 |
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| Merchelo | use the update manager | 12:32 |
| steve___ | Does anyone know of a way to download the apt-get source lists for both feisty *and* gutsy then have something like apt-show-versions -a PKG_NAME give results from both releases? | 12:33 |
| MatBoy | TheSheep, are you here ?> | 12:34 |
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| steve___ | Does anyone know of a way to download the apt-get source lists for both feisty *and* gutsy then have something like apt-show-versions -a PKG_NAME give results from both releases? | 12:43 |
| steve___ | sorry if that's a repeat, my client was acting oddly. | 12:43 |
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