[01:13] <Mark7> Hey TheSheep!
[01:14] <Mark7> Lo Ubotu
[01:14] <Mark7> How are you both?
[01:18] <Mark7> I'm trying to figure out how to change my plugins in Epiphany
[01:19] <Mark7> There are some things you just don't need mplayer for
[01:22] <Mark7> RA and MP3s, for example
[01:26] <Mark7> I have audacious installed, I was thinking of using that for streaming audio playback.
[01:28] <Mark7> The problem is I have no idea how to edit the plugins configuration file
[01:28] <Mark7> Or even if I can do it without breaking something
[01:29] <Mark7> You guys don't mind me hogging bandwidth here, right?
[01:29] <Mark7> Cool
[01:30] <Mark7> So, hands up who's a bot :-)
[01:30] <Mark7> Or, even better, if you're a bot don't say anything
[01:31] <Mark7> :-D
[01:36] <Mark7> :-(
[02:22] <paulhan> Hi, I'm installing from an iso image and everything is fine until I get to /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. I then get initramfs, but I can't seem to find anything to tell me where to take it from there
[02:27] <DaBeowulf> Please help I'm trying to get the nvidia-glx-new running again but when X should start it tells me: failed to load module "wfb" and that the kernel is of version 7184 (nvidia-glx which it installed when I tried to activate nvidia-glx-new via the restricted drivers tool) But I deleted that completely and reinstalled glx-new and used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to activate it...
[02:28] <moforilla_> I recently installed the ntfs-3 package to get access to my windows files, after running some scripts on a link given to mount the drive I was still unable to read or write to it.
[02:29] <moforilla_> After coming back to xubuntu I find the drive mounted, with read only permissions
[02:29] <moforilla_> How can I got about making ti read and write?
[02:31] <moforilla_> it*
[02:31] <qiuhou> @moforilla: is the drive listed in your /etc/fstab file?
[02:33] <moforilla_> yes
[02:33] <moforilla_> qiuhou: #Added by diskmounter utility
[02:33] <moforilla_> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:33] <Pumpernickel> paulhan: Feisty livecd?
[02:34] <paulhan> Sorry, yes, that's the one. Burned it too iso and it seemed alright
[02:36] <qiuhou> sorry, gotta go for an hour or so
[02:36] <moforilla_> qiuhou: Which of these settings refer to read and writing?
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> Try the alternate cd or a Gutsy cd.  Both should work; the error you're encountering doesn't have a reliable workaround (bug 96084).
[02:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 96084 in linux-source-2.6.20 "boot - /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96084
[02:36] <moforilla_> qiuhou: Im guessing the ro
[02:38] <Pumpernickel> !ntfs-3g
[02:38] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:45] <paulhan> pumpernickel: Thanks so far. I tried a trick I saw of using a floppy disk and it loaded straight through. Am now at a login screen, but it won't let me continue until I type  in a password which I don't have. I've tried root
[03:19] <moforilla> Im using this script to mounta disk
[03:19] <moforilla> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:19] <moforilla> I was linked to me by someone last time I was in the channel
[03:20] <moforilla> For some reason the script mounts the disk as read only?
[03:20] <moforilla> Has this got anything to do with answering no to the use of the experimental FUSE module?
[03:21] <darrend> is there documentation anywhere regarding if-up.d / if-down.d scripts?  Specifically what variables are made available to them?
[03:24] <DaBeowulf> dammit I'm short of reinstalling the OS..
[03:24] <DaBeowulf> Why does it still say the nvidia kernel module is 7184 when I installed nvidia-glx-new?
[03:33] <darrend> DaBeowulf: yeah, bit quieter here
[03:38] <xjonex> msg Nickserv puppu
[03:45] <moforilla> Can I change my X windows manager?
[03:55] <WippoZippo>  hey, it seems that the ubuntu install can't find my harddrivers, I tried pci=conf1 and acpi=off but none of them solved my problem.  I've been told it has something to do with the kernel? anyone has an idea? thanks :)
[04:02] <Mark7> Please, someone, talk to me
[04:02] <Mark7> I can't do this on my own :-(
[04:02] <vinze> Do what?
[04:03] <Mark7> Change the plug ins in Mozilla
[04:03] <vinze> Like?
[04:03] <Mark7> I don't want Mplayer to handle audio files
[04:03] <vinze> You mean when they are open in the browser?
[04:04] <Mark7> Yes
[04:04] <DaBeowulf> Okay how come after every reboot I've got to 'sudo modprobe nvidia' to get X starting again?
[04:04] <DaBeowulf> Otherwise it says nvidia kernel module is 7184 while the module is 9755 and refuses to start X
[04:05] <DaBeowulf> And why is there no etc/modules which was in the suggestion from #ubuntu to fix this?
[04:05] <Mark7> And I especially don't want it to hog the browser
[04:05] <vinze> Mark7, can't you just delete the package mozilla-mplayer?
[04:05] <Mark7> I did
[04:06] <vinze> Then how can it still be used?
[04:06] <vinze> Is it listed in about:plugins?
[04:06] <DaBeowulf> Anyone?
[04:06] <Mark7> But that just means that I can't view embedded or streaming video content
[04:06] <vinze> Mark7, you mean that Firefox *opens* audio files with MPlayer by default, or that it plays them *in the browser window*?
[04:07] <Mark7> The mplayre plugin is still in the Mozilla plugins folder, so whenever I click on an audio link it goes off to look for that
[04:07] <Mark7> Yes, except replace Firefox with Epiphany
[04:07] <Mark7> I want the audio to open in a stand alone app
[04:08] <neozen> hey there all
[04:08] <neozen> have questions regarding drag n drop in xubuntu (xfce) ... where might I start looking for information
[04:08] <neozen> ?
[04:08] <vinze> neozen, the Xfce wiki?
[04:10] <Mark7> How come you can only get plug ins for mplayer and totem, anyway?
[04:10] <vinze> I guess those are the only ones available
[04:11] <Mark7> Well, there's xine as well
[04:11] <vinze> Mark7, I think I've found the answer
[04:11] <Mark7> Oh?
[04:11] <vinze> In Edit->Preferences, Content tab
[04:12] <vinze> There you click on "Manage" under "File Types"
[04:12] <Mark7> IS this for Forefox?
[04:12] <vinze> O damn
[04:12] <vinze> I mean not so good
[04:12] <vinze> Sorry
[04:12] <Mark7> What's wrong?
[04:12] <vinze> You use Epiphany of course :s
[04:13] <Mark7> Yeah
[04:13] <Mark7> But Epiphany uses the Mozilla plugins
[04:13] <vinze> Yeah true
[04:13] <vinze> But it uses another folder for preferences
[04:14] <vinze> Perhaps you could try and see what is changed if you chance it in Firefox, and try changing the same in the ~/.gnome2/epiphany folder
[04:14] <Mark7> How do I access that folder?
[04:14] <Mark7> Remember, I need to be root
[04:15] <vinze> Why?
[04:16] <Mark7> Because I want to change the behaviour of the plugins
[04:16] <vinze> I though you wanted to change the behaviour of the browser (i.e. what content should be handled by what)
[04:17] <neozen> vinze: O.o wasn't exactly in the wiki .... but found this: http://xfc.xfce.org/docs/howto/html/draganddrop.html
[04:17] <Mark7> Yeah, that's what I meant
[04:17] <vinze> Then I don't think you need to be root
[04:17] <Mark7> But I can't find any other way to do it
[04:17] <Mark7> There's no such option under Epiphany's preferences
[04:18] <Mark7> Believe me, I've looked
[04:19] <vinze> But I'm trying to find out where Firefox saves the preferences regarding file handling
[04:19] <vinze> Because Epiphany might use the same
[04:19] <Mark7> Okay
[04:20] <Mark7> ~/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox, maybe?
[04:21] <vinze> No, it's user-specific
[04:21] <Mark7> Right
[04:22] <DaBeowulf> Does not work. Maybe I should have said that I modprobe to remove the module all the time?
[04:23] <Mark7> Sorry to hear that DaBeowulf
[04:23] <TheSheep>  Mark7: about:config
[04:24] <TheSheep> Mark7: in the address bar
[04:24] <Mark7> Done that
[04:24] <Mark7> Now what?
[04:24] <TheSheep> Mark7: there hsould be a number of entries for your formats
[04:25] <Mark7> There are LOTS of entries
[04:25] <TheSheep> Mark7: best do a search for it
[04:25] <vinze> TheSheep, I tried already, couldn't find anything :(
[04:25] <Mark7> Search for audio?
[04:27] <Mark7> Maybe I'd have more joy with iceape
[04:29] <Mark7> Is someone PMing me?
[04:30] <Mark7> The Systray icon just flashed
[04:31] <Mark7> Does this look like the right thing? plugin.default_plugin_disabled
[04:31] <vinze> Found that too, but I don't think it'll help
[04:31] <vinze> Or perhaps you'd disable *all* plugins with it
[04:32] <Mark7> Yeah :-(
[04:34] <Mark7> I just changed plugin.override_internal_types to true
[04:34] <vinze> And?
[04:35] <Mark7> Hang on
[04:35] <Mark7> I'm testing
[04:35] <Mark7> Hmm.  I suspect a site FU may be the reason
[04:37] <Mark7> Someone didn't do their html properly
[04:37] <vinze> Ooooo...
[04:37] <TheSheep> Mark7: there is a help on mozilla.org
[04:37] <Mark7> Okay
[04:37] <Mark7> Let me just PM the site owner
[04:38] <Mark7> Done
[04:41] <Mark7> I'm at the Mozilla site. Where next?
[04:50] <Mark7> How do you write a plugin?
[04:54] <maxamillion> Mark7: using the mozilla API
[04:54] <maxamillion> i gotta run
[04:54] <Mark7> URL me to the Mizilla API
[04:55] <vinze> Mark7, a plugin or extension?
[04:55] <vinze> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/embedding/PublicAPIs.html
[04:55] <Mark7> A plugin
[04:56] <Mark7> I want to create a plugin that'll open the media player of MY choice
[04:56] <vinze> I have no idea, but the Mozilla API I googled to be the above URL
[05:00] <Mark7> Okay
[05:00] <Mark7> I need to read one of the already installed plugins so I can get some idea of what's involved
[06:45] <hyper__ch> hiho folks
[06:58] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: what are yur needs?
[06:59] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: never tried any... as my ICQ got hijacked yesterday (1128681) I'm saying good-bye to it and lean towards open-protocols now ;)
[06:59] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: I use gajim, it's written in python and pretty nice and simple
[07:13] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: what are the servers for in Gaijm?
[07:18] <maxamillion> hyper__ch: gaijim is just a jabber server ... it will connect to any jabber server you have an account on
[07:18] <maxamillion> hyper__ch: ah ... hmmm
[07:18] <hyper__ch> how does it work then?
[07:19] <hyper__ch> TheSheep meant gajim is nice and simple
[07:19] <maxamillion> hyper__ch: http://trac.gajim.org/wiki/WikiStart#help_quickstart_guides
[07:27] <hyper__ch> the creation of an account keeps failing :(
[07:28] <maxamillion> hyper__ch: i sorry... i just use google talk because i have gmail :)
[07:43] <Desolato1> hello
[07:43] <hyper__ch> hiho Desolato1
[07:43] <Desolato1> I've got a question about installing, what shoudl I make the swap, primary or logical?
[07:44] <Desolato1> *should
[07:45] <TheSheep> doens't matter
[07:45] <TheSheep> doesn't
[07:46] <Desolato1> I've read that there's a limit of 4 primary partitions, I guess it's not a problem for me
[07:46] <hyper__ch> Desolato1: that's an ancient limit which you can circumvent with extended partitions
[07:47] <Desolato1> oh, ok. btw, is ntfs-3g avaialbe for xubuntu?
[07:47] <zoredache_> or lvm, or many other tricks
[07:48] <zoredache> Desolato1: yes the package you want to install is 'ntfs-3g'
[07:48] <hyper__ch> Desolato1: it is, but why do you want that?
[07:48] <Desolato1> ok, thanks
[07:48] <Desolato1> I'll carry on installing
[07:49] <Desolato1> see ya
[07:58] <jarnos> Hi. I get some kind of errors during startup. (Some llines are shown in console, but graphical login screen is displayed eventually.) How to get rid of the errors?
[08:24] <hyper__ch> jarnos: there's many ways, but first it would be good to actually know what error messages you get
[08:29] <user1> hi
[08:30] <hyper__ch> hiya user1
[08:30] <user1> anyone know hows i get mailto:n=user3@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com to just show my ip not my isp?
[08:33] <hyper__ch> user1: if you could elaborate a bit more... what you just said does not give much clues of what you want
[08:34] <user1> n=user3@24.107.235.119
[08:34] <user1> how i gey my host like that?
[08:34] <user1> eggdrop does it somehow
[08:45] <user1> anyone?
[08:46] <user1> \/join #bind
[08:46] <user1> srry
[08:50] <maxamillion> user1: eggdrop is a bot, bots other than ubotu are not allowed in official ubuntu and ubuntu derived channels
[08:50] <user1> maxamillion its on a another net
[08:50] <maxamillion> user1: oh ok :)
[08:55] <siimo> hi, 1 question, why is xubuntu live cd so heavyweight and slow to load
[08:56] <maxamillion> siimo: because it runs entirely in your system ram
[08:57] <siimo> maybe they should cut down some programmes? ><
[08:58] <hyper__ch> siimo: you cuold get more ram ;)
[08:58] <siimo> hyper__ch: i already have my motherbord maxed out
[08:58] <hyper__ch> siimo: why do you run it in ram?
[08:59] <siimo> i usually use it when the comp is in trouble and wont boot
[08:59] <jax> I think the idea is that it is non-modifying to the system.
[09:00] <hyper__ch> you could load a smaller system than xubuntu
[09:00] <siimo> its pretty amazing that i can run slax live cd and it boots 1/3 time as xubuntu and its full KDE system it also runs faster
[09:01] <siimo> i thought xfce should be faster
[09:01] <hyper__ch> xubuntu is faster than kubuntu ;)
[09:01] <siimo> *buntu live cds are very slow
[09:02] <hyper__ch> siimo: so?
[09:07] <siimo> hyper__ch: so it shouldn't be so slow
[09:09] <hyper_ch> the ubuntu live cds are not made for booting quickly but for showing what it will be like
[09:12] <jax> I recently installed xubuntu on /dev/hdb - which I had added from old box.  I used 40 pin IDE cable instead of 80 pin.  When I get newer cable, are there any settings that I will need to change from what the installer gave.
[09:12] <jarnos> hyper__ch, there are some messages about firmware microcodes or something during boot, but those text come and go so quickly I cannot follow.
[09:13] <siimo> jax: no
[09:14] <hyper_ch> jarnos: so how do you think we can help?
[09:15] <siimo> hyper__ch: well it also runs pretty slow... so showing what its like is still not very nice
[09:16] <hyper_ch> siimo: it shows what it is like
[09:23] <jarnos> hyper_ch, is there some log file where you can see the messages?
[09:23] <hyper_ch> jarnos: syslog
[09:24] <TheSheep> jarnos: in the /var/log/ directory
[09:25] <TheSheep> jarnos: you can also type 'dmesg | less'
[09:33] <thehollowwithin> how do i burn .daa files it is a iso
[09:34] <jarnos> There are several lines like this at the end of output of dmes:  "bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed." I am not sure if this is why I see console during startup.
[09:37] <thehollowwithin> ?
[09:38] <hyper_ch> jarnos: did you replace any hardware? did you install a new kernel?
[09:40] <thehollowwithin> how do i burn .daa files it is a iso
[09:54] <Soskel> hi
[09:55] <Soskel> how can I add my own program to the top bar?
[09:56] <hyper_ch> Soskel: right-clicke, add-new item, launcher
[09:56] <Soskel> thanks
[09:58] <hyper_ch> Soskel: or add Quicklauncher where you can add multiple launchers (small icons)
[10:01] <jarnos> hyper_ch, well I have installed all updates. I have also used some third party repositories, and disabled some. Some time ago I started to get message after login from Avahi that complained about my local network domain. I also installed (and later uninstalled) "Spyder2PRO 2.3.5 - Works with Windows Vista" by wine.
[10:06] <DaveMorris> hi guys, I'm working on mythbuntu which has recently switched to using xfce.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with bug 148301 It's seem that a different locale changes the placement of buttons instead of just the names.  Is this corect or have I put the wrong settings in for xfce?
[10:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148301 in mythbuntu "Missing shutdown button in xfce" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148301
[10:06] <allen> Can I install an epson scanner/printer on xubuntu?
[10:07] <hyper_ch> bug 148301
[10:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 148301 in mythbuntu "Missing shutdown button in xfce" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/148301
[10:07] <hyper_ch> cool
[10:09] <mick_> hello
[10:09] <DaveMorris> hi
[10:09] <mick_> How can I do to have a icon in the bar for check my battery
[10:10] <mick_> I have a laptop
[10:10] <DaveMorris> allen: if you can install it on ubuntu then it'll work with xubuntu since it uses the same under the hood programs, it just has a different graphical user interface on it
[10:10] <DaveMorris> mick_: I'll have a look for you
[10:10] <mick_> DaveMorris, oh thx verry much
[10:11] <hyper_ch> mick, right-click the bar, add new item, batter monitor
[10:11] <mick_> oh ?!
[10:11] <mick_> I try
[10:12] <mick_> hyper_ch, it is ok
[10:13] <mick_> hyper_ch, thank you
[10:13] <hyper_ch> mick_: yw
[10:13] <mick_> :)
[10:14] <mick_> hyper_ch, why the network icon is not in the same frame
[10:14] <hyper_ch> mick_: I dunno what you mean
[10:14] <mick_> I explain
[10:15] <mick_> in the top bar, I have the network ico side by side the time
[10:15] <mick_> oh, wait I try a screenshot
[10:17] <mick_> lol, How can I take a screenshot
[10:17] <mick_> the touchpad dont work at all
[10:17] <hyper_ch> there's no screenshot functionality by default in xubuntu
[10:18] <mick_> oky
[10:18] <mick_> I try by xterm
[10:19] <allen> How do I get a ppd file for my printer?
[10:55] <Soskel> hi
[10:55] <Soskel> were is my fonts folder?
[10:58] <siimo> i use ~/.fonts/
[11:28] <nikolam> 
[11:28] <nikolam> Hi
[11:28] <nikolam> How to know what hardware is supported
[11:29] <nikolam> E.g. there must be some kind of database for those thing etc.
[11:44] <Pumpernickel> nikolam: There's no single complete db.  If you're concerned about a specific part, though, it's pretty easy to find out how well supported it is.
[12:05] <hyper_ch> nikolam: or just try out the desktop/live cd to see what natively works on your computer
[12:06] <nikolam> I think that I am fullz supported. Just motherboard temperature measurments are weird.
[12:06] <nikolam> But I think about redirectin someone who is buzing something
[12:06] <nikolam> Where to look at etc.
[12:06] <nikolam> I personally can handle it.
[12:10] <user1> anyone know if i can stream tv to others via the site on my pc?
[12:23] <cjae> anyone here use tsclient
[12:26] <siimo> have ppl started doing upgrades to Gutsy via apt
[12:32] <Merchelo> use the update manager
[12:33] <steve___> Does anyone know of a way to download the apt-get source lists for both feisty *and* gutsy then have something like apt-show-versions -a PKG_NAME give results from both releases?
[12:34] <MatBoy> TheSheep, are you here ?>
[12:43] <steve___> Does anyone know of a way to download the apt-get source lists for both feisty *and* gutsy then have something like apt-show-versions -a PKG_NAME give results from both releases?
[12:43] <steve___> sorry if that's a repeat, my client was acting oddly.